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CMVEctoplasmic1984/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 09:44 PM
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DiscussionEctoplasmic1984/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 11:13 PM
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women normally never approach men, thats how its always been and always will be, and if women do approach men, they normally will do it to be friendly and social, but never with the intention of starting a sexual relationship
/r/seduction18/12/24 02:25 AM
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why am i not surprised in how they occured
/r/seduction18/12/24 02:24 AM
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yeah because for all time, its the man that is trying to attract the woman, not the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 11:50 AM
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would be awesome and better, because obviously unfortuneately, if a guy approaches or makes advances on a woman like nature and reality has always dictated, there is always the risk of the man making the woman feel uncomfortable or violating her boundaries, getting perceived as creepy or weird, and if women made it obvious, gave more obvious choosing signals as they call it, it would be like the woman is inviting the man instead of the man doing it straight randomly out of the blue, but that i d…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:34 PM

most women don't even make it that obvious that they like a guy like that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:23 PM

yup you could say that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 08:22 PM
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i just always resented and hated how its up to the guy to ask the woman out and court women, do the pursuing, why can't women go after men too right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 05:05 AM
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i assume your husband was the one who asked you out and made a move on you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 04:58 AM
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yeah, thats why at times, it just makes me laugh and cringe, and i get kind of annoyed that there are even dating/relationship coaches for women, since i don't see how they have to do any learning in the sense of how to get a man attracted to them since they don't have to do the approaching or the courting
/r/seduction25/03/24 12:16 AM
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reminds me, i've heard some people say, pretty much the only skills women have to know or learn on how to attract men or do well with dating on their end, are how to screen a guy or just how to avoid getting used by a guy, be able to distinguish and tell between the guys, men, who make advances on them, the guys who actually want a relationship or those who just want sex, and once they learn that, figure that out, women are basically all set, its just a whole world of so many options and choices…
/r/seduction18/03/24 05:11 AM
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another way to put it, is that, the way nature and reality works or looks like, its only men that need to know or learn how to get a date, get a girlfriend, not the other way around, i don't see how women have to learn how to attract a guy or get a guy when they don't have to make any moves on their part, don't have to lead in anything, because leading requires doing, and you only learn or get better at something by doing, and since women are passive and do nothing, i don't see how they have to …
/r/seduction18/03/24 04:43 AM
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i think what he means is that, he gets irritated and annoyed whenever people and society say that women have to learn how to date, that women have to learn skills in order to attract or succeed with men, when women have always played a passive role in human mating, interactions between the 2 sexes, what do they have to do? just say yes or no? that doesn't require any learning
/r/seduction18/03/24 04:36 AM
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yup me and many people are aware of that statement, doesn't mean it helps though
/r/seduction18/03/24 04:34 AM
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yeah, i'm sure a lot of men wonder why some men never needed a dating coach or a mentor, never needed guidance when it came to improving their social skills with women
/r/seduction18/03/24 04:32 AM
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i think i feel this way, and i'm sure tons of guys do, they mainly feel this way towards guys, men, who are described as "naturals", with women, as in, these guys, its like they never sucked with women in their whole life, they never needed a coach or a mentor, its like they never had to read a single book or blog post about seduction and dating, attraction, in their whole lives, these guys just seemed to naturally figure it out on how to successfully talk to and interact with girls, attract the…
/r/seduction12/03/24 10:55 PM
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its not so much rejection, i'm aware that not every woman will like me and i know i won't like every woman, its more of the risk of making a woman feel uncomfortable, not wanting to scar her or creep her out, not want to violate her boundaries, and this makes me very angry because its another reminder that people and society expect guys, men, to have common sense or just the social intuition for being able to read a womans body language and subtle signs that she is either interested or not, they…
/r/seduction01/03/24 11:51 PM
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yeah wizardry is quite common among autistic men
/r/seduction01/03/24 11:39 PM
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and of course, people and society will always expect men to have natural instinctive innate common sense for knowing what is creepy behavior and what is not when interacting with women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 11:37 PM
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won't surprise me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 10:48 PM
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it seems to women, keyword is seems
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 08:40 AM
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i made that comment due to how it should be obvious that cases of people reaching a certain age, decade, and having never dated, never had a BF/GF before, are mostly male dominated cases, should be obvious
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 12:41 AM
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as in, never dated, never had a BF/GF at all? if so, won't surprise me if these people they've studied, won't surprise me if most of them are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:41 PM
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well it just feels unrealistic for a woman to get labeled creepy by a guy, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:38 PM
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and i assume your BF was the one who asked you out and hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:54 PM
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unfortunately, not unusual for lots of men on the spectrum to become wizards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:54 PM
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i assume your husband was the one who asked you out and hit on you, made the move on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/23 09:48 PM
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and men of course need to have better social skills or understand social cues, body language, because due to the male gender always having to make advances, and if the advances violate the other persons boundaries, they are perceived as dangerous or creepy, uncomfortable. The reverse is never true
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:30 AM
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are you serious? i never thought and i still doubt that it is possible for a woman to be labeled or perceived as weird or creepy during interactions with men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/23 12:27 AM
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i hear this a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 01:22 AM

won't surprise me if cases like that are more common than it seems, a lot of people are just embarassed to disclose that info.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 12:09 AM
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and not everybody gets to date or have a relationship very early in life, if you have browsed reddit or other forums, its not unusual or not unheard of for people to reach near the end of their 20s, 30s and older and have never been with anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:18 AM
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and i assume he was the one who asked you out, started talking to you first
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/23 12:07 AM
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i assume you and him are both in your 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:59 PM

a woman who never had a true boyfriend until 33?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:35 PM

ya just a sarcastic assumption, due to my lifelong resentment of men being expected to make the first move and be the initiators
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 11:35 PM
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your husband never had a girlfriend until 30? if so, i wonder how he feels about that, and i assume he was the one that asked you out, started talking to you first
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:35 AM
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i think cases like that are becoming more common in modern times, they have released articles to the public regarding the rise of male loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:26 AM
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why am i not surprised that he was the one who asked you out, just a sarcastic reaction due to my lifelong hatred that its normally the guy that does the asking out
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 03:11 AM

absolutely, and it can make you as a guy, feel very embarassed or stupid if you made her feel uncomfortable or accidentally violated her boundaries, personal space, yet people and society expect us guys, men, to have social intuition read womens minds, for knowing how to act accordingly in those interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/23 01:36 AM
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"The onus of initiating contact usually falls on men. Whether online or in person, making the first move can feel intrusive. This responsibility is daunting and often uncomfortable." Yes, the risk of making a woman uncomfortable, or making her feel like her boundaries have been violated, is an uncomfortable risk
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:18 AM

ya i know i get bitter and resentful, envious towards people who got to experience dating, having a relationship in their teenage years or beginning of their 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:38 AM
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you used to be gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:48 AM
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thats why far more men than women end up chronically single later than normal
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:44 AM
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i assume you had girlfriends like 10 to 20 years earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:41 AM
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are you saying you never had a girlfriend until 29? and do you still feel damaged mentally and emotionally due to having been single that long?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/23 02:38 AM
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im sure men approach women all the time with the intention of using the woman for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:20 AM
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i don't see that ever changing, hence why there will always be more male wizards than female wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:17 AM
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yup i've always hated being the hunter, pursuer, and will resent it until the day i die
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/23 12:07 AM
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well duh what else is new
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 03:42 AM
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its sadly not unusual for lots of autistic men to become wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 10:39 PM
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and a lot of or most of this is social skills, and it makes sense that men have to have better social skills than women do since men are the ones that have to do the heavy-lifting in interactions between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:15 AM
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is it even possible for a woman to get labeled weird or creepy by guys, men in social situations? i didn't even think that was possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:14 AM
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well the quote when he said about you have to break an omellete in order to make eggs, that was the powerful part.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:14 AM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:13 AM
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never had a woman have people come to her defense, as in, not like a group of people, just her 1 female friend though. Of course i never touched her and never assaulted her, never did that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:13 AM
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yes, that makes me angry because guys it seems are the only gender that have to mess up or screw up socially interaction wise when it comes to knowing how to talk to the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:12 AM
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thats what i want to believe or think, and i think most people and society expect guys to have that figured out by the end of their teenage years or so, but ya, i do agree and support that women can get away with social awkwardness, social ineptness when it comes to interacting with the other sex, since women are on average physically weaker or smaller than men, they will never risk being viewed as a danger or a threat to a guy, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 03:11 AM
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makes me angry that people will get on a mans case if he approaches women while at a social meet-up group, because isn't that what is natural and expected of guys men? since women will normally never approach a guy or never make a move on a guy they like.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:48 AM
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well a few times in my life, but i was never labeled a stalker, never got a restraining order, thats why i have approached women a few times in my life since i don't want to risk getting labeled creepy or weird again, and obviously, thats a case of damned if you do and damned if you don't as a guy, man, a death sentence for being alone and celibate since as a guy, man, you will never have women pursuing you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:47 AM
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yup, and people expect guys and men to just naturally know in advance that they are not supposed to approach like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:46 AM
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yes, thats why i like to think men are the only gender that have to do the learning when it comes to knowing how to interact with the other sex, women learn by default because they are on the receiving end of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 02:46 AM
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ya a lot of men feel it is an injustice because women can get away with being socially awkward or socially inept in terms of not understanding social cues or boundaries during interactions between the 2 sexes, because women are never expected to make advances on a guy they like and women don't risk being labled or perceived as creepy or weird since women are not the physically imposing or threatening danger to the other sex if you get what i'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:17 PM
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were you ever in your life ever labeled or thought of as creepy by women just for approaching them or making advances on them? because i've heard some people say, that getting perceived or thrown those labels by women as a guy, man, is inevitable for a lot of guys, as in, its part of the process of getting better at talking to and interacting with women. As in, part of messing up or screwing up, because they often say, failure or screw ups, messing up, is the way to get better so you don't make …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:16 PM
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men need to be able to understand social cues or social boundaries better than women do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 09:14 PM
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i'm sure there is a portion of men who have done many attempts but still either get rejected or friend-zoned a lot, and its a angry reminder because it reminds guys, men, that they are the ones that have to figure out what they are doing wrong, its not really women who do anything wrong because women don't have to know how to get or attract a guy, the guy is trying to get them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 01:17 AM
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some say what also hurts a lot, is how guys, men, are growing up starting in their childhood, how teachers/faculty in elementary school, are mostly women, so it socializes them to learn passive permission seeking behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:31 AM

ya but women never being expected to do the approaching or ask a guy out, thats why i don't see that type of service existing for women nowhere as much as it would for guys, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:18 AM

The amount of effort men put into a real relationship is directly proportionate to the availability, quality and cost of paid companionship. mainly in regards to starting, forming a relationship and maintaining a relationship, due to men always having been expected to do the pursuing and be the initiators, ask the woman out. I'm not even sure if male sex workers that offer women "BFE", even exist, as compared to the amount of female sex workers for men that offer "GFE".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/23 01:15 AM
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well men can get a vasectomy in order to avoid pregnancy, women don't have to take the pill for that
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:08 AM
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im sure men will still be expected to approach and initiate interactions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:06 AM
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well women always have options due to how they are on the receiving end of sexual attention
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 01:05 AM
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i highly doubt there will be A.I. boyfriends for women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:22 AM
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thats why i've long felt that a mans social skills impact his dating life, sex life, a lot more than the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 12:22 AM
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there will always be more male wizards than female wizards, that is a fact
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 09:06 PM
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i get angry and very mad whenever people and society say guys, men, are not supposed to view courting a woman or leading a woman as a chore or work
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:16 PM
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ya women can get away with social ineptness but men can't
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 10:39 PM
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i highly doubt that there will be A.I. boyfriends for women or sex robots for women, because women are in default abundance, the priveleged, gifted gender to being on the receiving end of sexual attention, automatically having men come to them. Men will never have the luxury of women coming onto them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:29 PM
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did she ask you out?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 04:06 AM
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i see nothing wrong
/r/AllPillDebate01/10/23 03:43 AM
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and i know i will argue and defend this until the day i die, until my last breath, women normally never risk having their social awkwardness or social ineptness be dismissed or perceived as weird or creepy by men, or by people like mens social awkwardness, ineptness is. The behaviors or things that cause a man to get perceived, labeled as weird or creepy by women, women can do those exact behaviors towards men, and most men won't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 10:33 PM
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what angers me a lot, people and society expect guys, men, to have natural instinctive, innate common sense for knowing what is creepy and what is not around women, which i don't believe is true for the majority of guys, men, most guys, men, have to make social mistakes in order to learn and know what is creepy and what is not around women, so they don't make those social mistakes again.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:36 PM
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did any of the escorts allow kissing?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:35 PM
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have your experiences with escorts/sex workers, been good, enjoyable, despite paying for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:53 PM
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definetley more possible for a guy like that to struggle than his female counterpart, since men still have to pursue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:52 PM
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i figure a lot of men have had negative experiences from approaching women, its not rejection, its more so on how the rejection occured or how the women reacted, such as labeling the guy or viewing him as creepy/weird
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:50 PM
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it makes me mad and angry on how most people, most society, expect guys, men, to have common sense or just have natural instinctive innate common sense for knowing what is creepy behavior around women and what is not, they expect us to know and understand social boundaries, unfortuneately, most guys, men, i believe have to go through a painful trial and error phase to know this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 06:15 PM
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it makes sense that women GFE escorts, sex workers, are a much better service to society, humanity, than men BFE escorts, sex workers are, since for all time, men have to work much harder than women do in order to get into a relationship and attract a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:46 PM
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the gender role of men always being expected to approach women or make the first move, do the asking out, be the initiators, i don't see that gender role or tradition ever changing
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 10:41 PM
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even though a lot of people say this the wrong mindset to have, i get more angry and mad, and lots of other people do, that guys, men, are not supposed to view it as work, instead they are supposed to view it as a joy and blessing, and that is, for all time, men have always had to carry most of the weight or do most of the work in order to form a relationship, make a relationship happen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:24 PM
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i assume thats why women can get away with being socially inept but men can't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/23 09:14 PM
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yes, women can get away with being socially awkward or socially inept, but men can't
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:16 AM

well men still approach women and make the first move, do the asking out, i don't see women ever doing that more often
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 04:13 AM
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just a sarcastic mindset, since i always resented that men have to make the first move and do the pursuing, be the initiators
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 11:25 PM
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i doubt he is that socially awkward since he had to pursue her and hit on her, ask her out
/r/seduction10/09/23 11:11 PM
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i assume you had to ask her out, hit on her
/r/seduction10/09/23 11:10 PM
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yup, and water is wet
/r/seduction10/09/23 11:09 PM
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did she also ask you out first?
/r/AllPillDebate10/09/23 10:41 PM
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yup, hence why there will always be more male wizards than female wizards
/r/MensRights01/09/23 10:40 PM
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i don't see this unfair gender dynamic ever changing, hence why there will always be more male wizards than female wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 09:02 PM
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ya it is said that, if a guy can't handle the possibility of being rejected by a woman, then he won't be able to handle the world for her, yup, a lot of people think men are dealt with the short end of the stick when it comes to human mating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:40 PM
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yup, hence why there will always be more male wizards than female wizards in the world, i assume you are familiar with that slang term
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:17 PM
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the pattern that i have noticed about that series, is that, most, not all, but most of the male cast members of that show, Love on the Spectrum, have never had a girlfriend before, or have just dated very little, like maybe something short-term, but it is the oppossite for the female cast members on that show, series, most, not all, most of the women have had at least 1 long term boyfriend before.
/r/MensRights01/09/23 08:15 PM
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and it reminds me of this pattern of the tv show, series, love on the spectrum, there is a cruel reminder pattern on that series
/r/MensRights30/08/23 09:31 PM
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ya why do i get the feeling this gender dynamic will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 09:27 PM

yes, i feel i'm better than i was over 10 years ago, but i know there is still room for improvement, thats why i made that post, it angers me on how guys, men, can sadly be labeled creepy or weird by women, or people for poor social skills, but not so much the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:42 PM

well i don't do that what you mentioned, its just that there have been times i feel i have given off the wrong vibe or accidentally bothered people even though i never wanted to, never wanted to hurt them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:33 PM

ya, and men who get unfortuneately get labeled creepy by women, its very embarassing, makes them, i know for me, feel very stupid, and it angers me on how society makes it out to be, that guys, men, are supposed to have common sense or just have it naturally figured out as to what is creepy behavior around women and what is not, unfortuneately, for many guys, they have to mess up or screw up interactions in order to learn from those mistakes, which can leave forever permanent embarassing negativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 08:52 PM
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and i assume the same thing on youtube comments, and other internet forums? plus, i have seen and heard of clients being mentioned from dating coaches, pick up artists, they say they will get plenty of guys, men, in their later 20s, even 30s and older who have never dated or still a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 03:28 AM
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interesting, did she ask you out first?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:48 AM
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well its quite obvious that women normally never risk getting labeled creepy or weird by men, the way men do from women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:48 AM
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well autistic women are far less likely than autistic men are to reach a certain age and to have never dated, never been in a relationship before
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:43 AM
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and if men are taken advantage of by women, it is usually for scamming, financial reasons, but pretty much never for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:42 AM
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were your uncles late bloomers? as in, they didn't have a girlfriend until late in life? late in life, is like, if someone hasn't had one by their later 20s or by their 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:41 AM
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ya but the majority of people in the world who reach a later than normal age and have always been alone, single, never dated, are almost always male it seems, whenever you hear of someone who reaches their later 20s, enters 30s, 40s and older, and is still single, never been with anyone, its almost always a guy, male.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:40 AM
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well a lot of men feel that way, because they feel that women simply just have to exist and just go out and show up, and they are guaranteed options, attention from men, that requires no skill or no learning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:36 AM
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yup i can see that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:36 AM
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interesting, 99 percent of women will never do that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:30 AM
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well it still seems that way, even if not a virgin, but still never been in a committed relationship or never been exclusive with anyone, always been alone, single, the majority of those cases seem to be male dominated especially when the person reaches a certain age, like later 20, 30s, 40s and beyond.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:30 AM
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well i assume you have had no difficulty getting boyfriends in your life
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 02:23 AM
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based on what i've noticed on reddit, and other internet forums, and tons of youtube comments over the years, the majority of the people who are 30+, 40+ and older, and have never dated, never had a relationship before, are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:58 AM
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and women are far less likely than men are to reach a certain age and always having been alone, never dated, never been with anyone or a virgin still, whenever you hear of a person who reaches their later 20s, 30+, 40+ and older, and has always been alone, single, never dated, a virgin, the person in that situation is almost always a guy, male.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:20 AM
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i assume she has been able to get boyfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:18 AM
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since autism affects people socially, it makes sense that it will affect mens chances of getting into a relationship a lot more than the other way around, is due to how for all time, men have had to do the pursuing and approaching, be the initiators.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:17 AM
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well whenever someone gets labeled weird or creepy or bothersome, gets labeled as making someone uncomfortable in social interactions, social situations, 99 percent of the time, its a guy, woman, women almost never get accused or labeled that by guys, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:16 AM
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you are bisexual? it just seems unexpected for a woman to get labeled weird or creepy by guys, men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:12 AM
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yup because the burden of leadership has always been on the mans shoulders.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:11 AM
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well, as long as it is far more common for men than it is for women to still be single, always been alone and a virgin later than normal. There are no doubt more male wizards in the world than female wizards.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:11 AM
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i assume you had to ask her out, hit on her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:07 AM
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why am i not surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:07 AM
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are you saying your GF approached you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 04:07 AM
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a woman who has been labeled weird or creepy in social situations? seriously?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:30 AM
2

well autistic women seem to have an easier time getting into a relationship than autistic men do
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 03:30 AM
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well majority of people in the world that are 30+, 40+ and older and have always been alone, never been in a relationship before, are male.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:18 AM
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interesting, a lot of people say that autism is a death sentence for being forever alone, forever single or celibate as a guy, human male.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:16 AM
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yes, but women that are like that, will not get labeled weird or creepy or be accused of making someone uncomfortable, annoying, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:13 AM
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yes, makes sense as to why autism will affect mens dating lives a lot more than womens dating lives, since autism affects social skills or just being able to connect with others socially, read social cues, naturally makes sense its going to affect men more than women due to how for all time, men have had to do the approaching and pursuing, court women, be the initiators, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 01:12 AM
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i saw this comment and i agreed with him, he said that women can be borderline autistic, even retarded mentally and socially, very poor social skills, be socially inept and still be able to get guys, still have dating options, still get attention from men, be able to get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:57 PM
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ya i've heard these are what men and women are assessed on when it comes to the attraction process, primitive evolution reasons, for men, they are valued, assessed on survival ability, for women, its replication ability
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:53 PM
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college sweethearts i'm guessing? i bet your husband was the one that asked you out, hit on you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:51 PM
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if the hobbies were reversed, if playing video games was a female-dominated hobby, and it made women socially inept, socially awkward, retarded in social situations, they would still have dating options, still get attention from men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:49 PM

i assume that even a full century from now, or even a full millenium from now, women that approach men will still be in the 1 percent of women or still in the extreme minority, i don't see this status quo ever changing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 05:46 PM

well this is an understatement, since reality unfairly dictates that men have to be the ones to pursue and go after the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 05:42 PM
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even though i'm not a woman, the obvious benefit of being a woman, is that women will never have to risk or deal with, experience, even close to the amount of rejection men have to risk and deal with, also, women don't risk having their social awkwardness or social ineptness, poor social skills, being labeled as weird or creepy, bothersome, as would a guy, mans.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 05:41 PM
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did you also approach him first? how did you and him meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:48 AM
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ya it just seems to be in a womans DNA that prevents her from doing that with a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 12:47 AM
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ya, sometimes i like to think that women are the only gender that are owed a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 08:14 PM
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yes you are right, i made this post due to negative experiences i've had while approaching women, being labeled or thought of as creepy, it hurts, it makes me feel like a social retard, it makes me want to say to myself "why couldn't I have the common sense to know what is creepy and what is not around women?"
/r/seduction23/08/22 03:18 AM
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being labeled or thought of as creepy or weird is what i hate the most about approaching women, pursuing them, is making them feel uncomfortable
/r/seduction23/08/22 03:16 AM
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i made this post out of anger, due to negative experiences i've had when approaching women, its not so much rejection that hurts, its the way that it happens that hurts the most
/r/seduction23/08/22 03:15 AM
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i assume you are in your early 20s
/r/seduction23/08/22 03:05 AM
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yup i look at practice from a different perspective now
/r/seduction16/08/22 07:49 PM
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reminds me of a long statement that was a rant by a guy that i thought hit the nail on the head, completely changed my perspective on talking to women
/r/seduction15/08/22 08:37 PM
2

doesn't sound unusual, quite common for autistic men to become virgins at 30 and older
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 06:41 PM
1

most people will say No
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:39 PM
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interesting, a girl wanting to approach a guy, women like this will no doubt forever be in the hardcore minority, for all-time no doubt
/r/seduction14/08/22 06:35 PM
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interesting, would be awesome if it did, don't get me wrong, me and i know tons of other guys in the world, would love it if it became more common for women to ask guys out, for women to approach guys and be the initiators, i was just expressing being doubtful because i'm trying to be realistic, but i hope i'm proven wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/22 04:01 PM
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ya why do i get the feeling this will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:39 PM
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plus, when the majority of people in the world who are 30+ years of age and still single, never dated, are male it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:38 PM
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thats why i get even more annoyed and enraged when people say women need skills on how to meet or attract a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 09:37 PM
1

well this a reminder that only men need to take or accept responsibility for a situation like this more than women do
/r/seduction08/08/22 09:30 PM
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are you based in Europe? if so, what country?
/r/seduction23/07/22 07:44 PM
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its why this industry will only get bigger
/r/seduction22/07/22 03:50 AM
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are you based in the US or outside the US? since it is sadly, unfortuneately illegal in 99 percent of the US
/r/seduction22/07/22 03:22 AM
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awesome and epic to hear man, ya, i find it interesting to ask guys, men, who have both gotten laid from a girlfriend/wife, the natural/normal way, and by paying for it, and the responses seem to vary from guys, men, some say that paying for sex with an escort/sex worker, that it can be equally enjoyable as with a girlfriend/wife, sex for free, or sometimes better, the responses vary
/r/seduction18/07/22 08:11 PM
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so you have been labeled or called creepy by women before? is it something that more guys out there deal with than are willing to admit or disclose? is it part of the process?
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:57 PM
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what i'm saying is, it has always made me mad how its far more common for men than it is for women to go deep or late into adulthood, reach a certain age and to have never dated anyone, never had a relationship before or still a virgin, should be obvious as to why reality is cruel like that
/r/seduction18/07/22 07:50 PM
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why am i not surprised
/r/seduction18/07/22 05:08 AM
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i bet he was the one who asked you out
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:59 AM
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another depressing irritating reminder how cases are male dominated like that
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:58 AM
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i assume you had to hit on her, ask her out
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:57 AM
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well as a woman you have the luxury of not being expected to approach a guy
/r/seduction18/07/22 04:56 AM
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ya, women are by default in abundance
/r/seduction18/07/22 03:11 AM
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so i assume no woman has ever called you creepy or weird, not every guy is lucky to avoid being labeled that from approaching, not every guy is blessed to be taught the proper social skills at a young age
/r/seduction18/07/22 03:11 AM
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i've heard some people say, if a woman calls or labels a guy creepy or weird just for a guy approaching her, a lot of times, it has to do with the woman herself, not the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:57 PM
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it also makes me feel jealous and envious, and i'm sure tons of other guys, men feel this way, they feel this way towards guys, men, who were very lucky or very fortuneate to never get labeled or perceived as being creepy, weird, making the woman uncomfortable, during interactions or when making advances on them, hitting on them, pursuing them, etc. A lot of guys wonder, how or why are some guys blessed to learn the proper social-skills in their teenage years or adolescent years that makes them …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 09:52 PM
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are you based in the US or outside the US? just asking because it sadly illegal in 99 percent of the US, i could have sworn i heard it used to be more common for guys, men, to lose the v-card by paying for it, at a brothel, that it was sort of like a rite of passage many generations ago
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:42 PM
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was the sex with the escort still enjoyable despite paying for it? just asking, because paying for sex has always been and probably always will be controversial, there is always mixed feelings, emotions, they vary, among guys, men, who do that
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:27 PM
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well men always have the burden of building the attraction
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:22 PM
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interesting since 99 percent of women will never approach a man and never will
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:21 PM
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so overall, no regrets at all about paying for sex? was it enjoyable despite paying for it?
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:20 PM
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i get even more annoyed when people say women need skills to get a guy, it makes me laugh and cringe
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:13 PM
1

when i say women never have to initiate or escalate anything, i'm talking about in terms of starting the relationship, not while in the relationship
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:12 PM
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duh, the burden of making a move will forever for all eternity rest on the guys shoulders, and i get more pissed off when people and society say us guys are supposed to enjoy or embrace that role
/r/seduction17/07/22 09:03 PM
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ya, this will never change, but its always bothered me how a guy or a mans social skills impact his ability to get laid or to get a girlfriend, attract women, a lot more than the other way around, and i believe men need more social skills training than women do, because women never have to risk their social awkwardness or social ineptness be labeled, dismissed as creepy or weird, only guys, men do.
/r/seduction17/07/22 08:59 PM
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yup, thats a major reason or just one of the main reasons why i have always resented and hated how men have always had to approach women and probably forever will be expected to, it reminds me of a long statement i read that completely changed my mindset on talking to women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:53 PM
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ya, it has always bothered or filled me with anger, resentment, but it will never change, its something that can't be changed, reason why is because for many people, its a painful agonizing journey when improving ones social-skills
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:40 PM
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i assume its because of testosterone, i hate how us guys are supposed to embrace and see that as a joy that men are expected to be active, i get mad when people say us guys don't have to wait, thats like saying guys can literally get a woman into their lives anytime they want
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:26 PM
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and its more important for men to have better social skills than it is for women since men have always and probably forever will have the burden of pursuit, initiating interactions, the person who has to make the moves or initiate, court, needs better social skills than the person who responds, follows. Women never have to risk their social awkwardness or social ineptness for being dismissed, labeled as weird or creepy, but men do unfortuneately
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 08:18 PM
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interesting since girls have always played a passive role
/r/seduction17/07/22 07:24 PM
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ya but women don't need to do jackshit to make a relationship happen or start with a guy, since women never have to initiate or escalate anything, since that burden is always on the guys shoulders
/r/seduction27/06/22 10:10 PM
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some say its the mans role to be interesting, its the womans role to be interested
/r/seduction25/06/22 02:44 AM
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ya, girls asking a guy out, why do i get the feeling that will never become normalized
/r/seduction20/06/22 02:36 AM
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ya, i never understood why the world has to be or work this way
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/22 07:27 PM
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i get very pissed off when people and society make statements such as "men have it better because they don't have to wait or do the waiting around like women do", the reason why that pisses me off so much, is because thats like saying guys, men, can literally get a woman into their lives anytime they want, just because a guy takes action and approaches a woman, theres no guarantee the woman is gonna be receptive to his advances, thats why i never agreed with those statements
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:24 PM
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gosh, i hate the cards i was dealt with for being born male so much, it fills me with so much anger and rage, and i get even more annoyed when people say women need skills to attract a guy as well, which never makes sense, since women don't have to do anything to make a relationship happen with a guy
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:23 PM
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reminds me of a long statement that changed my view on talking to women
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:23 PM
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all-time low as in how? is it this related to research and studies saying that young men are having a lot less sex in the 21st century?
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:17 PM
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well girls normally never ask guys out and normally never will
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:16 PM
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well your a girl, you don't need to know how to attract or a get a guy, because the guy has to do all the work to make a relationship happen
/r/seduction19/06/22 07:16 PM
1

so men being labeled or thought of as creepy by women, is inevitable? even men who are experts at approaching women?
/r/seduction17/06/22 08:36 PM
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ya but guys can risk making the woman uncomfortable just for approaching them, even if the guy never wanted to hurt her
/r/seduction17/06/22 04:37 AM
1

are you saying you have autism?
/r/seduction12/06/22 09:43 PM
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plenty of guys choose to end a dryspell by going to an escort or sex worker, but i know that route is not for every guy
/r/seduction12/06/22 09:42 PM
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ya women are the only gender that get offered a relationship
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:58 AM
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i don't understand why men should view taking the lead as a blessing
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:57 AM
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even women who are not so good looking, still always have options, but ya, men need to focus more on the behavioral aspect than women do when it comes to attracting someone it seems, i get resentful when people and society think men have the better end of the stick in human mating, relationships
/r/seduction09/06/22 01:56 AM
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ya because its a hurtful feeling making the woman feel uncomfortable, because me and i'm sure most other guys, men in the world, who have a good heart or good intentions, don't want to be seen as a threat or danger, but ya, its not rejection that hurts, its the way that it happens that makes the difference. Ya, i guess i am also more jealous and envious of guys, men, who were lucky to never get creep-labeled or creep-shamed for approaching women, its like, they must have somehow, i don't know if…
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:40 PM
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ya, i've heard some people say, dating is a modern thing, it wasn't around generations ago, centuries ago, am i right on what i heard? less social-skills were needed back then?
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:30 PM
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well women are normally always in the position of saying yes or no, accepting or declining
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 07:20 PM
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i like to think men need to understand social cues more than women do
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:19 PM
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ya, if men approaching women is what nature intended, then why do so many guys, men, get creep-shamed, get creep-labeled just for approaching women, when men are just doing their role nature dictates of them? it also kinda makes me mad, because a lot of guys, men, just sadly never have or learned the common sense as to what makes a guy creepy to women or what are uncomfortable behaviors that men do to women, a lot of guys just don't naturally know that, and it kinda makes me more mad that men ha…
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:13 PM
1

so i was correct in my previous comment?
/r/seduction08/06/22 07:06 PM
1

so overall, females paying a higher price for sex, reproduction, so that is what is meant to sum it up?
/r/seduction08/06/22 06:49 PM
1

well its still rare for a woman to ask a guy out or for a woman to be the initiator
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/22 06:46 PM
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so its not unheard of for a female cat to initiate mating or sex with a male, to make advances towards a male?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:32 PM
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ya, but women, or human females, normally don't actively seek out men, if i had to guess, us humans don't really detect pheromones like you mentioned?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/22 11:18 PM
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When they come in 'heat' they seek out males and mate "When they come in 'heat' they seek out males and mate", are you saying the females of those animal species, will pursue the male, make advances towards the male?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:13 AM
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so overall, women don't love or desire sex as much as men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:12 AM
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i'd say there is a lot of truth to that, however, what makes us humans different from most other animals, is that we don't solely have sex just for reproducing only, we also do it for fun and pleasure, bonding, not very many other animals do that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:11 AM
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ya, if men approaching women is just as natural as the sky being blue, then why do men get creep-shamed or get thrown negative labels just for doing their role that evolution and nature dicates of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:11 AM
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ya, but what makes us humans different from most other animals, is that we don't solely have sex just for reproducing only
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:08 AM
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naturally makes sense there are more male wizards than female wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:05 AM
1

why do i get the feeling cold approach will never die, and a lot of women unfortuneately get made uncomfortable when a guy approaches them in a public place
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:04 AM
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well yeah, because how often do women approach guys? that still normally never happens, i know i'm not the only guy in the world who has always resented how one-sided this is, but why do i get the feeling that cruel reality will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/22 03:01 AM
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A lot of guys can unfortunately be labeled that even when they never meant any harm and were never trying to hurt anybody. We were just trying to attempting to be social and making new friends and possibly trying to get a date or get a girlfriend. It sucks because many of us are just never specifically taught in our adolescent years, teenage years, as to what is creepy behavior or what is creepy and what is not creepy, we just never learned, so people and society shouldn't be so hard on people w…
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:21 PM
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ya its just that us humans, what makes us different from most other animals, is that we don't solely have sex just for reproduction only, we also do it for fun and pleasure, i think Dolphins are another example
/r/seduction29/05/22 08:10 PM
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well the OP got his account suspended, i know this is not for everyone, but for many guys, men, a lot of them choose to lose the v-card by going to an escort/sex worker, but like i said, not for everyone
/r/seduction25/05/22 09:40 PM
1

but i assume when it came to the asking out part, you left that part up to your husband
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 02:01 AM
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then i wonder why a lot of people and society often say that women love sex just as much as men do, if not more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:59 AM
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ya, but what makes us humans different from animals, we don't solely have sex just for reproducing only
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/22 01:58 AM
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ya, thats why the FA community is male-dominated or why there are far more male wizards in the world than female wizards
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:54 PM
1

did she also ask you out first or ask you for your phone number first?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:53 PM
1

it still feels or seems very rare for a woman to approach a guy or for a woman to ask a guy out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:29 PM
1

and tons of men get labeled creepy or weird when interacting, making advances towards women, like the world has always expected of them, so it becomes damned if you do, damned if you don't
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:28 PM
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ya, i never understood the logic behind it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:27 PM
1

you asked him out first? approached him?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:26 PM
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i'm sure tons of other guys in the world resent this tradition or status-quo, i know i'm definetley not the only one, one constant argument that has irritated me about this for years now, is people and society use this as the main argument for why men should not resent this role, they always make comments like "we men have it better because we don't have to wait like women do, we don't have to do the waiting". Reason why those comments make me mad, is because thats like saying we as guys, men, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/22 09:17 PM
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ya i think its that way in other species of animals as well
/r/seduction10/05/22 03:26 AM
2

well women still normally will never be the ones to initiate or escalate with a guy
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:33 AM
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cases like you make me mad because its a cruel reminder how nature or evolution made it out to be, that guys, men, can easily remain virgins later than normal
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:27 AM
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ya, but guys, men, need to be careful on how they tease the girl because they can easily insult the girl or be rude to her, thats why i figure its a huge trial and error process for men
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:25 AM
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ya i look at that from a different perspective now, for men its a matter of practice, for women its not
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:24 AM
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well, i know this has worked out well for many guys who have gone on a very long dryspell or are still a virgin by a certain age, they go to an escort or sex worker, but of course thats not for everyone
/r/seduction10/05/22 02:21 AM
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i doubt there will ever be a century or millenium in which it becomes more common for women to approach guys or ask guys out, make the first move.
/r/seduction05/05/22 02:48 AM
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ya but being labeled creepy or being perceived as weird in social situations or interactions, that can easily make guys not want to try anymore
/r/seduction27/04/22 07:01 PM
0

ya, well, tons of guys hate messing up, because a lot of times it results in negative reactions from others
/r/seduction23/04/22 11:18 PM
1

yes, i mentioned that
/r/seduction23/04/22 11:16 PM
2

thats nowhere as bad as being labeled creepy or weird
/r/seduction23/04/22 11:16 PM
1

well if you had intercourse, i would say you are not, but of course, virginity is just a social construct
/r/seduction23/04/22 07:44 AM
1

oh then why do you call yourself a virgin with the question for this?
/r/seduction23/04/22 06:26 AM
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oh ok, so you have considered it, if you remain a virgin longer, you might consider it? just asking because it works out well for many guys from what i've read or heard
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:57 AM
1

25 seems to be the starting age number in which people start to panic the most about this
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:49 AM
1

is losing your virginity to an escort or sex worker out of the question for you?
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:46 AM
1

are you kinda depressed over not having had sex until this late in life?
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:37 AM
1

but i get even more mad and enraged, pissed off, whenever people and society think men have the better end of the stick
/r/seduction23/04/22 05:36 AM
1

i would figure thats the way human nature has always been, far more men than women end up forever alone, forever single than women do, or don't get into a relationship until later than normal
/r/seduction10/04/22 07:17 PM
2

well i saw reports like that get posted even before the covid pandemic started
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:09 PM
1

would you say thats the origin behind why men have always had to approach women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 08:07 PM
1

and i wonder if its common for a lot of guys, men, to be labeled or thought of as being creepy, weird, when improving their ability to approach and successfully talk to and interact with women, its part of the trial and error process
/r/seduction04/04/22 10:10 PM
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well a lot of guys hate or resent being labeled or thought of as being weird or creepy when approaching, talking to girls, even they don't mean any harm at all towards the girls, and its hard to blame those guys, since many guys are not specifically, socially taught in our formative years, as to what makes a guy creepy and what doesn't, and yes i know there is no such thing as fairness, but women always having the social advantage due to how its impossible for a woman to be labeled creepy or wei…
/r/seduction04/04/22 09:59 PM
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"They get treated as nothing but sexual objects, they get mistreated, physically harmed and manipulated by guys, and many can’t even walk the streets alone safe at night. I suppose you would prefer to experience that than having to deal with a girl telling you no to your advances" I would figure a lot of guys, men, would rather go through that than remaining a virgin later than normal or perpetually single, alone, longer than normal, even though women have to deal with those negative things you …
/r/seduction04/04/22 09:54 PM
1

and its a reminder i like to feel men need to have a better understanding of social cues or social dynamics than women do
/r/seduction01/04/22 02:19 AM
1

feels like this is the way the game has always been played
/r/seduction01/04/22 02:18 AM
1

i could have sworn i saw another comment on here by a different user, it might have gotten removed, he said something that in female mammals, a lot of those species, the females initiate mating, but how so?
/r/seduction31/03/22 02:27 AM
1

even if a woman is already attracted to a guy or already likes him and the 2 of them have not spoken, so its women paying a much higher cost for sex than men? women possibly getting pregnant?
/r/seduction31/03/22 02:26 AM
1

consequences being too high, as in, women paying a much higher price for sex?
/r/seduction31/03/22 02:25 AM
1

ya, i get annoyed and irritated when people and society think we men have the better end of the stick in the human mating game, system, especially when it seems far more men than women end FA, virgins later than normal
/r/seduction31/03/22 02:20 AM
0

well don't get me wrong, overcoming or getting rid of social awkwardness, no longer being a socially awkward person is a great thing to strive for, its the painful journey that makes me and tons of other people not want to go through it, not want to get it handled, because during the journey of overcoming social awkwardness, improving your social skills, the person on that journey is sadly likely to make dumb or mess up in social situations, social mistakes, social blunders, that can cause him t…
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:11 AM
2

thats why i sometimes envy other species of animals, there mating dance or courtship ritual, such as, when the male has to literally fight another male to win over the female, it looks more simple and straight to the point, not long courtship period, not many or multiple steps involved, they just get on with it, straight to the point.
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:08 AM
1

why does it make a guy weak if he can't approach a woman? does it mean he would be unable to protect her?
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:07 AM
1

i believe that is a heavily contributing factor why women have always played a passive role in human mating or why women have normally never approached guys
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:05 AM
2

so sounds like, men are more likely to be receptive to advances from a woman than a woman is to be receptive to advances from a man, even though the man has always normally and probably forever will be expected to be the one to make advances towards the other sex
/r/seduction30/03/22 03:01 AM
1

for girls, meeting a guy or getting the guy is not the issue or problem for them, same thing with attracting the guy, the way it looks like, its only guys who need to know or learn how to attract women, not the other way around
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:56 AM
1

specifically, how do the female mammals initiate mating? examples or proof? this should be interesting
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:55 AM
1

because life and nature isn't fair, its meant to be cruel and dark
/r/seduction30/03/22 02:54 AM
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ya but being called sluts or judged negatively i figure is not as bad or worse as being labeled creepy or weird, stalkerish, or being perceived as dangerous, and can make a guy look like a social retard, be humiliated. If a guy avoids that specific painful journey i mentioned, then that is an easy death sentence for him to remain forever single and celibate, not for women though if they avoid that journey.
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:17 AM
1

"meaning we have already decided whether or not we are willing to go by the time we start talking", in other words, men are already attracted to the woman, already like her, as soon as he first sees her or notices her, but as much as the reverse, and defuse her sexual hangups and safety concerns while also turning her on. which sounds like, its only the guy who has to attract the woman, the woman doesn't attract the man, sometimes it makes me laugh and cringe that there is even dating advice for…
/r/seduction29/03/22 07:13 AM
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because what i always hated and resented, even though i know there is no such thing as fairness, is that if a guy is socially awkward, he can easily be labeled creepy or weird, be interpreted as dangerous or a threat to the woman, even though he never meant any harm. The reverse isn't true though, and guys will have to go through a painful trial and error to overcome social awkwardness, which during their journey, can cause them to get thrown rude, mean labels from people, get negative reactions…
/r/seduction29/03/22 12:37 AM
1

why do i get the feeling that women doing this will forever be in the extreme minority
/r/seduction20/03/22 11:16 PM
3

the image meme is "why don't girls DM guys first?", and their is a response to it that goes "does the egg swim to the sperm or the sperm swim to the egg?" case closed, the image meme can be easily found on google. i'm not a fan of that analogy, since me and tons of other guys resent how guys are normally always expected to be the initiators
/r/seduction15/03/22 10:35 PM
1

reminds me of a popular image meme i've seen in regards to women sliding into a guys DMs
/r/seduction14/03/22 05:47 PM
3

women still normally never approach guys and normally never will
/r/seduction14/03/22 05:47 PM
1

i would say, a lot of men are worried about annoying or bothering her, creeping her out, screwing up the interaction and getting labeled what i mentioned by her
/r/seduction12/03/22 06:13 PM
0

you said that a girl will kiss you first? that still normally doesn't happen
/r/seduction08/03/22 11:14 PM
1

thats why i get annoyed and irritated, when enraged, when people say that women need skills to attract men or to succeed in dating on their part, but ya, i figure something either goes right or wrong in a guys teenage years, formative years, that either causes him to naturally figure out the social skills, flirting behaviors, or "game", that is imperative for getting a girlfriend, successfully talking to women
/r/seduction08/03/22 10:43 PM
0

not really, girls still normally play a passive role, girls still almost are never the ones to ask a guy out or be the one to approach a guy
/r/seduction08/03/22 10:41 PM
1

so you have paid for sex more than once already? any regrets about it or was it an overall good experience?
/r/seduction08/03/22 10:39 PM
1

25 is when it seems to become a problem
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:48 PM
1

oh please, girls approaching guys will forever be rare, i doubt it will ever become more common for girls to approach guys, even 100 years from now or more it will still be the same
/r/seduction06/03/22 06:47 PM
2

"The point I'd like to make is that fact that the main purpose of sex is to reproduce, and pass ones genes down to the next generation. For humans it also helps form social bonds and connections for survival. It's common sense that women bare majority of the reproductive burden, they are the ones that carry out the pregnancy and when looking at female organisms in the wild they are the one that typically raise the young alone." When i look at sex from that perspective, i completely agree, i don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:50 AM
1

well men have always seemed to be more at risk at going deep or late into adulthood without ever having dated anyone before, should be obvious, due to how men have always been expected to make the first move and initiate with a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:36 AM
1

well some people think there is a rise in adult male virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:34 AM
1

this has always been the number 1 or main thing i've detested, loathed about having a penis, being born male, guys always expected to make the first move and do the asking out, be the initiator in starting a relationship, i never understood the origin behind why women have always played a passive role when starting a relationship with a guy, even if they are already attracted to him
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 04:32 AM
1

i figure its also better if a guy approaches while choosing signals are emitted, so that way it extremely reduces the risk of the guy being labeled creepy or weird
/r/seduction22/02/22 10:29 PM
1

very interesting question, probably because this gender dynamic will forever be one-sided
/r/seduction19/02/22 08:57 PM
1

be famous, popular, or be known for being rich, have certain status, but women approaching guys will more than likely never be normalized, that burden will forever be on guys shoulders, and i get mad and upset when people and society think we guys are supposed to embrace that role
/r/seduction19/02/22 08:56 PM
1

specifically, how do the girls hit on you? because girls hitting on guys or being forward with guys is the last thing you'd expect to happen
/r/seduction19/02/22 08:55 PM
1

the physical condition of your body, has it made you restricted or limited to only being able to have sex with certain sex positions? paralyzed men, i think cowgirl or woman on top, is the only sex position they are limited to, what is it like in your case?
/r/seduction13/02/22 06:15 PM
1

early 20s or beginning of 20s, its not that weird to be a virgin or never had sexual intercourse, society and the media make it out to be starting at 25 it is
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:50 PM
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well they don't have to know, men can easily keep that info to themselves, it kinda makes me mad that prostitution or sex workers/escorts, are not legalized or decriminalized in the US, except for certain parts of Nevada
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:49 PM
1

the rate of virginity increasing, i would assume more so for men than women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:43 PM
6

i feel it can benefit men more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:14 AM
17

i've always heard 25 is the starting age number in which people are considered in the extreme minority for being a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 03:14 AM
2

when did you have your first girlfriend?
/r/seduction12/02/22 03:00 AM
1

well i know i'm capable of beating someone up
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:09 AM
0

seriously, it makes me so god damn mad that guys, men, have to approach women and take the lead, it seriously makes me feel like beating someone up to a bloody pulp to release my anger and rage, stress over this, over the unfairness of this, seriously, makes me feel like wanting to make a guy squeal and whimper like a puppy as i break his fuckin' neck!, I FUCKIN' HATE BEING BORN A GUY AT TIMES!!!!
/r/seduction10/02/22 06:07 AM
1

this burden will forever be on the guys shoulders
/r/seduction04/02/22 04:36 AM
1

another reminder of how it makes me mad that guys, men, end up forever alone or perpetually single, a long-term virgin, more often than women do, oh well, it should be obvious as to why its like that, is it wrong that i feel game and attraction requires far more from men than it does of women?
/r/seduction02/02/22 09:38 PM
1

did it ever work out for you when you approached a guy or was the initiator?
/r/seduction01/02/22 07:04 PM
1

so there was no intercourse?
/r/seduction01/02/22 07:00 PM
1

women normally never initiate or escalate with a guy
/r/seduction01/02/22 06:59 PM
1

oh i see, so are you saying you've never officially had a girlfriend then?
/r/seduction01/02/22 06:59 PM
1

how did you end up losing your virginity then? an ex-girlfriend or one night stand, casual sex?
/r/seduction01/02/22 06:54 PM
1

i kinda feel similiar
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:02 AM
1

are you on a long dryspell? how long have you been single now?
/r/seduction01/02/22 12:02 AM
2

women still normally play a passive role in human mating, even if they like or are attracted to a certain guy
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:19 AM
1

lots of guys go well into their 20s like this or more sadly
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:19 AM
1

interesting, you asked him out first?
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:18 AM
1

welcome to the world of being a guy
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:18 AM
1

almost never, more than likely it will always be extremely rare or outside of the norm for women to approach guys or to make the first move, ask a guy out
/r/seduction22/01/22 03:15 AM
1

so it sounds like in arranged marriage, it doesn't solely have to be guy that is building the attraction, he is basically set up with someone
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:51 PM
1

yup, because women can be shy and awkward and still get a boyfriend, but if a guy is shy and awkward, it will be harder for him to get a girlfriend
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:51 PM
1

then i wonder why in other animal species, the males literally fight each other, but in us humans, we males have to use social-skills, talking skills, conversation, social behaviors in order to attract the woman
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:50 PM
0

the reason why i get mad and pissed off when people say we guys, men, have it better than women do because we don't have to do the waiting, is because, thats like saying we as guys, men, can literally get results with women anytime we want, which is obviously not true, a guy will deal with lots of rejection and hear a lot from women "i have a boyfriend already"
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:45 PM
1

ya, because at least it shows the guy is not a pussy in terms of standing up for himself
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:44 PM
1

women love sex just as much as men do
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:43 PM
1

i agree with one of the other users, women love and want sex just as much as men do
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:41 PM
1

i never understood, why does approaching a woman show a woman that a man can protect her? is it because if he can't handle being rejected by her, then he won't be able to handle all other rough things the world will throw his way?
/r/seduction27/12/21 11:41 PM
4

i swear when i hear people say to guys to man up or grow a pair, it literally makes me wish i could beat them up to a bloody pulp.
/r/seduction26/12/21 12:03 AM
23

maybe because women don't have to do the pursuing
/r/seduction25/12/21 11:28 PM
0

why should a guy embrace this role?
/r/seduction25/12/21 11:25 PM
-1

seriously, when people say to guys to man up or grow a pair, it literally makes me feel like beating them up, punching them in the face
/r/seduction25/12/21 11:25 PM
5

more shocking for a woman to be like this compared to a guy for obvious reasons
/r/seduction25/12/21 09:45 PM
1

thats likely the main reason why far more men than women end up as 30 or 40 year old virgins, or just remain a virgin far later than normal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:40 PM
2

i get mad and pissed off, enraged, when people and society say that women need skills to succeed in dating as well, which doesn't make sense to me since women have always played a passive role
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/21 09:32 PM
1

why do you think paying for sex is wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:55 AM
1

i'll be 25 next year and still have the v-card, i'm considering paying for sex, to an escort/sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:50 AM
2

did it boost your self-esteem or improve your mood or make you feel better about yourself despite paying for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:44 AM
1

lost the v-card at 28?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:44 AM
5

another enraging and depressing reminder, sometimes i like to feel that women are the only gender that are owed or entitled to dates or sexual relationships since women don't have to do the pursuing, which is why women are far less at risk than men are than ending up like that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:43 AM
1

so i assume he was the one who approached you or talked to you first, asked you out first, etc., why do i get the feeling it will always be extremely rare of women to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:37 AM
1

by choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:15 AM
3

any regrets about having sex with an escort, or none? did it boost your self-esteem in anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:14 AM
2

i assume he was the one who asked you out or made the first move or was the initiator in starting the relationship, that gender role or status-quo, tradition, of men always being expected to make the first move and court women, is probably why far more men than women end up going deep or late into adulthood without ever having dated anyone before. I doubt i'm the only guy in the world who has always hated and resented how guys are always expected to do that in order to get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:13 AM
3

you paid for your first time? if so, any regrets? because i'm considering that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:10 AM
1

will be 25 next year, not yet, i'm considering paying for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:09 AM
2

has paying for sex or losing the v-card to an escort, sex worker, has that ever crossed your mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:08 AM
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why am i not surprised that the person in this situation is a guy, male, a woman can struggle with social skills but is less likely than a guy to end up in this situation, due to how men have always been expected to make the first move and talk to women first, be the initiators or court women, so that means a woman who doesn't do well socially, can easily have men come up to her or pursue her who are the opposite of socially-awkward, socially-inept. But a man who is like that, will almost never …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:07 AM
1

its no doubt both men and women who enforce the gender role that men are still expected to approach women or make the first move, ask them out, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:03 AM
2

interesting discussion, since it has always seemed that, the reason why a lot of men, me included, think dating is easier for women is due to how women are far less risk than men are at being forever alone or remaining a virgin far later than normal, or less at risk at going deep or late into adulthood without ever having been in a relationship before, that is, someone who hasn't been in a sexual relationship by the time they have reached 25
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:02 AM
1

well it has always seemed that far more men than women end up reaching 30+ years of age without ever having dated anyone or been in a relationship before
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 01:00 AM
2

i believe you, but there is no denying the fact that it is rare
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:23 PM
1

why am i not surprised, just speaking of my lifelong resentment of how its always the guys role
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:17 PM
1

because nature and life is meant to be cruel and unfair
/r/seduction13/12/21 08:16 PM
1

probably the types of friends they had or certain male role models in their families
/r/seduction13/12/21 08:16 PM
2

i assume you had to be the one to hit her up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:14 PM
2

i bet your boyfriend was the one who made the first move or asked you out, guys always having been expected to make the first move or be the initiators, is why cases like this are male-dominated
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:10 PM
1

the chances of losing it after 25 diminish very high as your therapist said, i assume he means it that for guys, men, far more than women. How did you end up meeting the woman you lost your virginity to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:08 PM
2

will be 25 next year, i'm considering an escort or sex worker to lose the v-card, i sometimes get mad and resentful that Hollywood made the movie The 40-Year Old Virgin, with Steve Carrell, people and society say that movie is an insult to people who have not had sexual intercourse by the time they have reached 25, 25 is considered the starting or beginning age number in which people are seen as being in the extreme minority for never having had sexual intercourse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/21 08:07 PM
1

well there was something about them that made them attractive to women
/r/seduction13/12/21 07:33 PM
1

it seems that way
/r/seduction13/12/21 07:33 PM
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