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Activism/SupportEdgarStClair/r/MensRights30/12/24 07:44 AM
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GeneralEdgarStClair/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:15 PM
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More or less. I don’t think an individual woman needs a man these days in most western societies. However women as a group need men as a group. A man needs or wants A woman very much but doesn’t need her except kids. And men as a group don’t women as a group.
/r/MensRights24/06/26 09:14 PM
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Can you fig out what she’s trying to say?
/r/MensRights04/08/25 01:24 AM
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TBH I don’t disagree with you but I would phrase it differently. Feminism represents the interests of upper middle class college educated mainly white career women. They are a lobby group not different from AARP or big pharma. Their goal is more or less ‘more for us’ and if that means less for others so be it. They compete with men for the same resources good jobs, government benefits, social importance, power etc. they bring other groups on side with them if it helps. There is some malice but m…
/r/MensRights04/08/25 01:20 AM
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I bet there’s something about more men being homeless than women. And of course expected lifespans.
/r/MensRights08/06/25 11:55 PM
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Sure but if you’re already a western guy then that’s not as big a deal.
/r/MensRights27/02/25 01:35 AM
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If the laws change and gradually get entrenched then I go from negative to neutral. I still don’t see a compelling reason.
/r/MensRights27/02/25 01:34 AM
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I think it will be more subtle. Higher education will adopt a more social service approach than truth and innovation seeking.
/r/MensRights23/02/25 11:12 PM
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Yes. I’m not going to argue with that.
/r/MensRights18/02/25 07:51 AM
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Yeah that’s right. I set up the system. That’s me!
/r/MensRights18/02/25 03:55 AM
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I don’t think it’s as bad as you say. Men want families too. Not that it’s fair or good but…
/r/MensRights18/02/25 03:49 AM
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They’re only good with being single because men built a society in which they can get upper middle class indoor jobs.
/r/MensRights10/02/25 12:11 AM
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I like the idea of a contract with a stipulated time. Say 3 years with optional renewal. So effectively you get divorced every three years before remarry. If you don’t like the direction of the relationship you don’t renew.
/r/MensRights08/02/25 12:21 AM
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Ok so it’s not really a ‘drive’ per se. It sounds more like an interest. Maybe a something missing. Not really a tolerance either.
/r/MensRights25/01/25 07:19 PM
1

Good point. Men do tend to group many of their wants onto one woman.
/r/MensRights25/01/25 06:45 PM
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Missing I mean. (Autocorrect!)
/r/MensRights24/01/25 10:56 PM
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Sorry: something else.
/r/MensRights24/01/25 10:56 PM
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New question: do you think women have an actual sex drive like men or it would be more accurate to say (in comparison to men) they have a sex interest or sex tolerance? Granted there’s a wide range but I’m wondering how women experience it. Or is it more of a feeling that without sex there’s something undefined but miss? So: drive, interest, tolerance, or something miss? Or other?
/r/MensRights24/01/25 10:55 PM
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Ok so roughly for most women if I lined up their previous boyfriends they’d somehow look similar or have a lot in common?
/r/MensRights24/01/25 10:44 PM
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Do women like men in general or only a specific man or type of man?
/r/MensRights24/01/25 10:40 PM
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Oh please. This is not harassment especially if she’s at least a little bit serious.
/r/MensRights19/01/25 02:47 PM
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I agree but there are small number of women who really like guys as guys or boys as boys. Not necessarily in any sexual way. They just like our sort of energy and playfullness. If we could select for some of them too it would make a difference.
/r/MensRights18/01/25 01:59 PM
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This is just not a serious comment.
/r/MensRights12/01/25 03:03 AM
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I think the basic premise of this story is true if poorly explained. Most current popular fiction is aimed at women. So women read it more. Tom Clancy, dirk pitt, etc used to be standard but that genre is mostly gone now though romance aimed at women is still around. I think men read nonfiction and classics. What else is there out there for us?
/r/MensRights04/01/25 03:51 PM
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I wish they would republish the story with the male and female roles reversed.
/r/MensRights03/01/25 10:06 PM
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Here we have a nasty selfish hypocritical woman. She deserves a divorce. Oh no wait then she walks away with cash and prizes and the kids who she teaches to be nasty hypocritical snoops as well.
/r/MensRights03/01/25 10:05 PM
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We’re moving slowly towards an atlas shrugged moment when men withdraw. I really don’t see how a successful modern society will cope I’d men stop subsidizing women through taxes and labor and ensuring a safe way for them to be successful. I think women will pull back once they have a look over the abyss whether it’s a market meltdown currency crisis or worse.
/r/MensRights03/01/25 04:36 AM
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Yes. It’s a bit of a one sided thing though. I’m thinking of things like ending alimony. Making the taxes men pay only go to men. Let women pay for themselves and we can split a lot of costs 50-50 like roads and schools.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 04:41 PM
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I like sarcasm. 😁
/r/MensRights30/12/24 04:38 PM
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Harsh but fair. I think prostitution should be legal and properly regulated. Not over regulated or over priced. I think that would force the other women to offer more.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 04:37 PM
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I think we should look there and respond as appropriate to male bashing. I never knew there was a teaching subreddit but if it’s fair it’s a good idea. I’ve got to look.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 04:35 PM
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Exactly my friend.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 04:32 PM
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I certainly agree they should be brought down a notch. Also I think we want to preserve what women have to offer but not overpay for it.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 04:32 PM
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Fair.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 04:30 PM
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I understand but that’s a reaction. I want us to introspect to come up with what is truly us.
/r/MensRights30/12/24 08:06 AM
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Yes, that’s women’s concept of decentering men. Excluding men. I mean letting go of our feelings of responsibility to them, interacting as we wish with them, but clarifying what aside from women matters to us and focusing on that. Sort of being true to who we really are and have to be. What general values do we think are most important for us support? Honor? Creativity? Maintaining the material wealth of society? Advancing knowledge? Personal growth (hate that term but it works here)? What core …
/r/MensRights30/12/24 07:59 AM
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Ouch!
/r/MensRights26/12/24 08:58 AM
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No. Not in the west. Probably easier in Florida than elsewhere because they updated their alimony laws.
/r/MensRights22/12/24 08:38 PM
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Wow!
/r/MensRights19/12/24 07:37 PM
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Maybe remember where the term oriental came from? Maps used to put Asia at the top do directions were oriented.
/r/MensRights17/12/24 09:58 PM
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I sympathize. Really. But the system just wants you to pay and stay away. You’re a guy.
/r/MensRights17/12/24 12:49 AM
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Feminism is just a lobby group. They want more for them and less for everyone else. It’s not about equality or anything elevated. It’s just to get more always.
/r/MensRights17/12/24 12:42 AM
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It’s just a lobby group for upper middle class educated career women. Mostly white. They see men as competitors not partners. It’s a pretty transactional view. Sort of like big pharma or big tech or any other pressure group.
/r/MensRights11/12/24 11:35 PM
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I’ve seen it all over in the public sector.
/r/MensRights10/12/24 12:37 AM
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I mostly ignore it. When I can’t I reassure myself they don’t know what they’re talking about. When it gets too bad I argue back. And then give up.
/r/MensRights03/12/24 09:09 PM
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You can’t live fear.
/r/MensRights25/11/24 03:35 AM
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Hmmmm. Gives me something to think about!
/r/MensRights22/11/24 01:30 PM
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I think most women get so much from the various levels of government that they think they don’t need us. The benefit a woman gets from being with a man is not that much higher than she gets anyway from the society we created. We have created a society so rich and comfortable that women don’t have to struggle. What’s that expression ? Born on third base and thinks she hit a triple.
/r/MensRights22/11/24 07:36 AM
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If I were a younger man that’s what I’d do.
/r/MensRights22/11/24 07:22 AM
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Wow!
/r/MensRights17/11/24 04:45 PM
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Bloody hell. If I wrote that to my wife she’d tell me you’re drunk. Rewrite that when you sober up.
/r/MensRights14/11/24 06:53 PM
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You’re right but I find it really odd because mgtow is much more flexible than 4B. For MGTOW I it’s enough to be aware of the actual situation men are in and take our appropriate sense of autonomy into account. MGTOW doesn’t really mandate a specific response like 4B. At least as I see it.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 06:20 PM
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Those are first rate ideas. I especially like the idea of men going on a tax strike to match women’s sex/intimacy strike. We’d have to protect the kids somehow but I like the idea. Men have been too passive. In honesty I don’t think it would easy to organize this but we’d only have to have a psychological impact at first anyway. The fact of a real reaction might be all we need.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:30 PM
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The ones who really do it are probably going to be ones men wouldn’t want anyway.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:22 PM
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In fairness there have been a few women who helped me at low points in my life. Let’s not forget the few who helped us just because we’re bitter about the others.
/r/MensRights10/11/24 05:21 PM
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I wonder if that data could be used to estimate the net contribution of men to women?
/r/MensRights08/11/24 07:06 PM
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Yes! I’ve asked many times how we can estimate how much men pay in taxes versus women and how much women versus men benefit from government spending. I think those numbers would make a strong case for men’s value. Of course we’re not just an 🏧 but it’s part of an answer of how society works.
/r/MensRights08/11/24 12:44 PM
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This is the kind of question I’d like to be sincere. OTOH it can be risky to answer and maybe a trap? Enough detail to explain subtleties of a situation to make it interesting to other people would make it possible to identify individuals.
/r/MensRights03/11/24 02:31 PM
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To be honest it really is the thought that counts. It’s almost something better said or even email so no one has to react in real time.
/r/MensRights29/10/24 11:03 PM
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I wouldn’t say disappointed I hope. Maybe a little pensive because he’s likely to have a harder life.
/r/MensRights28/10/24 01:40 AM
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Some data must be out there because they calculate pay gap stuff (wrongly…)
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:57 PM
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Yes but how much do men pay in taxes and how much do women pay? How much money is spent mainly on men versus mainly on women?
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:48 PM
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My only problem with this is that marriage contracts are not written exclusively by the people party to the marriage. That makes it a government program not one of love or even business between the people.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 11:02 PM
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Didn’t someone say women approach relationships the way men approach a job?
/r/MensRights21/10/24 10:59 PM
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Agreed but soon enough it will only be for babies. Sexbots are just around the corner.
/r/MensRights21/10/24 10:06 PM
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No I’m not saying. I think that fathers should play a bigger role and that mothers should not be able to exclude them. And if the mothers exclude the fathers there has to be some penalty on her that doesn’t harm the kids. I also think that there are often relatives who will make better parents than a single mother.
/r/MensRights20/10/24 01:36 PM
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Ok maybe above a specific age or developmental stage like able speak complete sentences? I’m just looking for a counter to defaulting to the mother. My parents got divorced when I was 4. It was messy. My mother got me by default even though she didn’t particularly want me. I guess she did more than my father but that’s not saying much. I was raised mainly by my maternal grandparents. Very old school. If they hadn’t picked up the slack I’m not sure what I’d have become. My mother was a super femi…
/r/MensRights20/10/24 12:12 PM
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Sort of a joke but to make a point should we argue that children need their fathers more than their mothers? Hence man should routinely get custody-and support from women or the guvvy?
/r/MensRights20/10/24 12:04 PM
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I don’t disagree. But is there a formal study that was well done that shows this? I’d like to be able circulate it. Recent is better. Thanks.
/r/MensRights20/10/24 11:58 AM
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FWIW male and female always have a medical or scientific connotation for me.
/r/MensRights18/10/24 09:31 AM
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I wouldn’t say it’s condescending. I’m hardly young and I’ll refer to guys my own age as boys as a matter of familiarity. Mind you I’ll also use term gentlemen.
/r/MensRights18/10/24 09:29 AM
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The Nordic model is more easily understood as the hypocrisy model, no?
/r/MensRights08/10/24 08:41 AM
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Actually what you wrote sounds eerily accurate for straight women too. 😬
/r/MensRights08/10/24 08:39 AM
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I’m not sure I agree. I think women just don’t much care about us. At best the 10’s are play things for them.
/r/MensRights29/09/24 05:02 PM
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I don’t disagree with that position but it’s a little too abstract to be readily implemented. I’d focus on financial issues because that’s the main way the system diverts resources to people who are against us. Thus divorce— I like what Florida did. I think we have to reform asset division in divorce too. Changing those will redefine our relationship with women and the system as a whole. Second we have to do something to play a bigger role in our kids lives and be enabled to do that. Younger peo…
/r/MensRights29/09/24 04:16 PM
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Yeah but well aren’t we? 🤪
/r/MensRights26/09/24 05:18 PM
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I have seen personally with my kids.
/r/MensRights26/09/24 05:17 PM
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Properly understood feminists aren’t hypocritical at all. They just want what’s best for white, upper middle class, educated career women and the rest can go hang. If that means being a bit deceitful to get what they want that’s fine from their perspective.
/r/MensRights20/09/24 07:32 AM
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Not a student. Several jobs over several institutions. You sound like you know what you’re talking about. I’m sure you’re right about the motivation but it’s been having a substantial effect on a many programs and not for the good. Sigh.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 09:35 PM
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Suffice it to say at a post secondary institution.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 08:50 PM
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I don’t know enough to respond to all your points. However I do know that universal white male suffrage ie no property requirements was only completed in the us sometime before the civil war. I think there were other conditions that persisted into the early 20th century like paying taxes of sort. Women started getting the vote in some jurisdictions in the 19th century but I don’t remember any details. I seem to remember that at some point in time voting was related to serving in the armed forces…
/r/MensRights18/09/24 08:49 PM
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I disagree diametrically with you. Where I work the white males are systematically paid less and the white females are not as good employees. I guess your mileage can vary. How it shakes out in the end is the question. BTW I gave you some upvotes as a way to thank you for being active here.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 08:34 PM
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When you say originally what do you mean? I’m serious. Do you mean since the development of agriculture? Say 4 millennia bc? I think those times were very different-much shorter life spans for one. Do you mean since the renaissance? Again a very different world. Do you mean since the recognizably modern world say the mid-1800’s? And in what way was it built for men? I have the sense that you’re right for say 1800 to say 1975 and that in some general sense men were 5% better off than women. Since…
/r/MensRights18/09/24 12:59 AM
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I haven’t found that but I can believe it. Some are incredibly judgmental. More to point this is the friendliest subreddit I know.
/r/MensRights18/09/24 12:44 AM
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I think feminists confuse sex and class. Few men are in the elite because the elite is itself tiny. At a guess I’d say that the west is run by half a million people. There are probably around 900 million people in the west and about half are men. The world is built by the elite and while I wish they did better in a lot of ways general living standards have improved for the most part. And yes a lot of that improvement was done by the 450 million men. My point: if women in the west really think ha…
/r/MensRights17/09/24 02:22 PM
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At the risk of revealing my biases I suspect that the importance of fathers increases over time. At birth we’re not very important (duh) except as support to the mother. Not to be minimized but still support. As time passes and we feed them, change diapers etc we matter more directly. A few years later when they’re walking and talking I think we are the ones who primarily help them navigate their world. If we don’t do that and leave it to the mother it’s a different experience typically. We prov…
/r/MensRights16/09/24 06:58 PM
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Let me get this right. Rotifers and dandelions don’t have male and female the way we do. Therefore males are extraneous? Frankly I think it’s so obvious why males are needed it’s not worth discussing.
/r/MensRights15/09/24 04:17 PM
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I understand your point. It’s a uniform policy at least in some jurisdictions. It’s not taking away my masculinity. It’s the feeling I’m being accused of something with no justification. It’s a slap in the face when Im Playing Good Samaritan. I’ve never heard of a woman being asked the analogous question. Or a child being asked if the parent was harming them. Maybe women are asked in some places like where you are. Call it standard of care if you want but it’s aimed at men, right? Sort of like m…
/r/MensRights15/09/24 01:33 PM
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We have to figure out why exactly men are killing themselves and take away the motivation. Bottom line: We have to find a better balance between competing with each other and giving each other a break.
/r/MensRights15/09/24 02:31 AM
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Are there any genuine success stories that make title ix look like it is good for something? It’s been around a long time since and d seems mostly bad now. What was it meant to be? Just male bashing from the beginning?
/r/MensRights14/09/24 07:46 PM
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I agree with you but there are jurisdictions where if a man brings a woman to an emergency she is always pulled aside and asked if he was abusing her. This is often done immediately after arrival and before any non emergency treatment. I was a landlord with two apartments and I bought my female tenant to hospital because she had a really bad migraine. She told me the nurse interviewed her about me before treating her. She needed an IV. The same thing happened with my wife at a routine pregnancy …
/r/MensRights14/09/24 07:34 PM
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TBH I’m not sure phrasing it as rights is accurate enough to make our point. I think it’s more like a systemic devaluation that is hard to establish because it’s subtle and pervasive.
/r/MensRights14/09/24 07:02 PM
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Haven’t got time right now for a full response. But: feminism seems to me the a forum where women who can afford it work out what their interests are and how to get them. Women wanted vote without having to serve militarily. So early feminists argued that women’s contribution to society were too important To be not represented. The motherhood angle. Early feminists wanted men to give the family money so they supported anti liquor movements and prohibition. WWIi gave us roses the riveter partiall…
/r/MensRights06/09/24 12:55 PM
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Added: I came to see the system wants for my work and then mostly wants to tax it away from me giving me little. Follow the money. I could work myself to exhaustion trying to achieve what guys are supposed to achieve but it was impossible. I was duped. I ended up funding lots of other people. Nobody cared when I needed something. Everyone wanted stuff from me but gave little. Once I learned I stopped giving and focused on what I wanted. I only gave to people who would fair or at least try. Not v…
/r/MensRights06/09/24 12:20 PM
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It came to me gradually. By 40 or so it was complete. Started in high school when people got ahead of me mainly girls because were ‘nicer’. Then as an undergrad because I did it mainly on my own. Only guys helped. Same in grad school. On job clearly women were favored. Not by a lot but it grew and grew. I saw the same when I handled rentals. Female Tenants favored over male. The legal system compensating everyone more than me. Promotion standards higher for men or designed to play favorites typi…
/r/MensRights06/09/24 12:12 PM
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Feminism is mainly a marketing strategy for middle middle and upper middle class career women. They want more for themselves and less for everyone else. It’s not about making society better or equality. It’s get what you can for as little as you can and try for more.
/r/MensRights06/09/24 11:58 AM
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FWIW I think women outside the collective West do see men differently. Yes there’s the possibly materialistic agenda but within limits that’s ok. It’s when materialism crowds out important factors that it’s a problem and offensive. My impression is that outside the collective west, it’s taken as obvious that men are needed by individual women and by society . Here in the west we have created a society that is so rich, so engaging and so comfortable that an Individual woman can get by without men…
/r/MensRights27/08/24 09:01 PM
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Hi All, strictly in the FWIW category, the arguments and counter arguments remind me that prostitution should be legal. Let it be a market like so much else in life. I think that would help men and take a lot of the unwanted attention away from women. It would take a little bit of some women’s power away but not a lot. And some women who were willing to sell their services would benefit. Net better for men and mostly a wash for women. It would also put the focus more on the relating part of rela…
/r/MensRights26/07/24 09:27 PM
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Yes. Multiple lawyers told me it was easy to overturn a prenup if there is any big change in circumstances like kids, education, job changes etc. it’s a bit of a racket.
/r/MensRights10/07/24 04:21 PM
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I think we should push for policies that will help us not give up our resources. Lowering taxes benefits men more than women because we work more and earn more. Lowering social spending benefits men more than women because they get more of it. Those policies are not overtly anti the organizations that fight us so it’s harder to attack us.
/r/MensRights08/07/24 10:52 AM
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Just my point of but I think the asset split in divorce should be related to the custody and alimony. No visitation rights means no alimony. Separately I think asset splits should follow contributions.
/r/MensRights28/06/24 03:25 AM
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Entrenched wrong beliefs are always nonplus those of us who form our opinions after seeing the relevant evidence. Here’s a thought for future use: ask what evidence it would take to make her change her mind. If she says no evidence would then you know what you’re dealing with. If she gives a useful answer you have something to discuss.
/r/MensRights31/05/24 05:26 PM
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All these are valid points. The question is the policy prescription. I like that Florida has limited spousal support after divorce. I think it should never be more than 3 years. Second I think division of assets after marriage should only give the lower earning spouse say 15% of the difference in their assets. Let’s make it so that if a couple marries it’s because she loves him rather than his money. Also make child support conditional on fair visitation rights. Then I’d like to ensure men and w…
/r/MensRights30/05/24 08:28 AM
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