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Dump her ass, she has no respect for you and you already bent over every month avoiding the conflict and drama she was starting with the “you better not be following any of your exes” crap. Never avoid this conflict. If she says something like this give her a whattchoo talking about Willis look and tell her you will be following whomever you want as leader by as you are not touching. If she gives you an attitude, show her the door. You need to have balls if you are hoping on having great women i…
/r/seduction18/02/25 09:47 PM
2

You succeed by showing the least about of emotional investment.
/r/seduction18/02/25 09:44 PM
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The problem is guys don’t even know what they want. They have no clarity. They might have some ambiguous and abstract idea about getting more dates or having sex or maybe even settling with a girl, but no clarity beyond that. So how is he going to screen women if he has no clarity on what he wants? Beyond the fact that she is a girl who is willing to out with him? That’s the real problem.
/r/seduction18/02/25 09:42 PM
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lol, I haven’t pursued a woman for a LTR in decades. When I learned how to play the game, it was always women trying to pressure me into a relationship.
/r/seduction18/02/25 09:40 PM
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That’s stupid. Does the Chad have any reason to change when he has a never ending stream of willing women? Even if they bitch and moan about him, but yet keep coming back? Why does he have to change?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:38 PM
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You don’t understand. All of that is actually good news. Once you handle your fear, you will realize how much others are slaves to fears, insecurity and phobias. You might lose your respect for them or at best, you might look down on them a little bit, but you will never again be afraid of others, because you can clearly see how afraid they are and what losers they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:37 PM
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I’ve maintained for a very long time that the biggest problem men have is fear of women. They will find different ways of avoiding admitting it, such as blaming high standards, hoeflation or the low self esteem route of “I’m just not good enough, tall enough, rich enough, good looking enough” for these women. But no matter how you try to spin things, the reality is guys who are unsuccessful with women are simply afraid of them. Perhaps they see themselves as inferior, or women as judgmental and …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 07:35 PM
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I’m sure it happens more when people in a social circle try dating each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:27 PM
1

It’s just an expression that means “I don’t find you sexy”. Let’s just be friends is also a great line to use on women to get you to chase them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 12:17 PM
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You are drawing the wrong conclusions from your observations. You think this is a woman problem, that they are bitches making beta Billy’s wait around for sex and getting disrespected. But that’s a you problem. If you approach a woman from the frame of a candidate provider (beta Billy, beta bux, husband material, etc), she has NO other choice but assume the role of the chooser/screener making him jump through hoops. It’s a self inflicted wound kind of like shooting yourself in your own dick. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:50 AM
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Again, it works out much better when the man is the one vetting the woman. I’ve done this for a very long time and have lots of experience with both types of behaviors. Being the pursued always works much better for both parties than being the pursuer. Women LOVE pursuing the right guy. Every woman LOVES a challenge. But as a guy you have to know how to be a challenge and you are correct, that you cannot just be lazy and skip the mating dance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:44 AM
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Understand that this is a belief that YOU are buying into and that YOU are using to measure your own self worth. You compare yourself against others who might have gotten an earlier sexual experience and deem yourself insufficient and defective. It’s your own thinking that’s fucking you up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:21 AM
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Here is one piece that almost nobody knows about. As you astutely observed, there are only two roles one can play in an interaction with a woman. You can either be the pursuer or the pursued. The pursuer, in this day and age usually the guy, presents himself as a candidate provider, he auditions for role over multiple dates, usually to be told “let’s just be friends”. The pursued, usually the woman, assumes the role of the choosers she screens the man and because she is inherently put off by bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:19 AM
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That’s not true at all. It always works out much better when the woman is the one pursuing the man. Approaching is simply initiating the interaction, although most interactions are also initiated by women, just not in the “hey hot stuff, wanna get out of here” manner that men would like. But women will look at you, smile, hover around you, show cleavage and so forth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:13 AM
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Courting is actually the woman’s job. Courting is inherently submissive and feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:11 AM
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Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 11:10 AM
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Again, You are doing it wrong. Decide what you want, what kind of relationship you want and the qualities in a woman you are looking for. Then screen women for that. Tell them what you are looking for and let them worry about getting on with your program. That’s what leading means. That’s what it means to be an alpha male. Everything else is noise
/r/seduction17/02/25 11:28 PM
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OP’s post isn’t about building meaningful connections. It’s about taking cues from the woman about what she wants so he can say he wants the same thing. In other words, he is following her lead. This isn’t about two people who have been dating for a while and moving the relationship to a new level.
/r/seduction17/02/25 10:46 PM
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Let her worry about it. Get out of this chasing frame and just use the frame women use. If she liked you, she will reach out. If she wants to see you again, she will reach out. You got better things to do then sit around and wait for some girl to accept your date. Until you completely overcome your fear of losing a woman, you will never truly have them.
/r/seduction17/02/25 10:22 PM
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A lot of what you hear on the internet from women who cry “don’t approach us, don’t bother us, we don’t want to talk to you” is a reaction of all the lame ass pick up stuff you guys preach.
/r/seduction17/02/25 10:20 PM
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You are horny over-pursuer and that never works.
/r/seduction17/02/25 09:58 PM
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I don’t give a fuck about what women want. Only what I want matters and if what she wants is not the same as what I want, she’s sent packing.
/r/seduction17/02/25 09:57 PM
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Trying to meet women’s expectations is a losing proposition. You are always going to be playing the game of “pick me pick me”. Doing whatever you think they want you to do, jumping through hoops like a good dog, only to be told “let’s just be friends”. Women’s preferences don’t matter. Who gives a fuck. Worry about your own preferences. Worry about the realities you want them to have and let them worry about meeting your preferences and standards. The only thing a man needs to do is stop being i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:55 PM
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It really goes back to what women are attracted to. Women are attracted to men. As simple as that. But just because you own a penis, that doesn’t necessarily make you a man. Many primitive societies and tribes have a rites of passage ceremony for a boy to become a man. The key part of this ceremony is that boys are out through a grueling mental and physical challenge, where they have to face and overcome their fears. And this is what ends up making the man. Destroying his fear. The problem with …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:49 PM
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Probably not.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:38 PM
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I agree with you. You want to be playful. That’s what flirting is all about. It’s a little game that you play with them.
/r/seduction17/02/25 02:52 PM
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Niceness by its definition means that you let people get away with stuff. That you have a high tolerance for BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:21 PM
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When you have power, you don’t have to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 02:00 PM
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I remember seeing this Instagram reel. It was of some male influencer or something that interviews young and attractive women on the street. He stops this really hot looking girl and asks her something to the tune of “What type of guys turn you off the most?”. She thinks for a second and says “Nice guys!” “What about a nice guy is unattractive?” And she says: “I feel like if a guy has to be nice, it’s because he doesn’t get other girls. And that’s a turn off.” And that’s really all there is to i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:21 PM
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I guess that’s why, a middle aged 43 year old have women half my age hit on me all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 01:17 PM
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You don’t fuck your friends. It’s strictly prohibited.
/r/seduction17/02/25 11:38 AM
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Well, you need to scout out the clubs and bars in your area. In terms of logistics, they should be within 15 mins door to door. Sleep in the evening and wake up around 2am, shit, shower and shave and show up to the club/bar 30 mins before closing.
/r/seduction17/02/25 11:36 AM
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What? Such a novel idea to make meeting women fun and not a chore.
/r/seduction17/02/25 11:35 AM
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More likely the husband is a cuck and wants to watch her getting fucked and she gets off on that. OP, I say do it, but show strapped.
/r/seduction17/02/25 12:34 AM
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Wow Owen cook, the weirdo from RDS? Great person to take advice from. /s
/r/seduction17/02/25 12:31 AM
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Here is a little secret. The more shame you feel about being a virgin and inexperienced; the harder it will be for you. Being inexperienced is already a difficulty, but being ashamed of it really cements it and will block your progress. Do the contrary, talk to your friends who are getting laid and tell them: hey, I’m really inexperienced and don’t have any social skills. I’ve been ashamed of this for a long time. Can you help me get over it with some advice? The less ashamed you start to feel a…
/r/seduction17/02/25 12:30 AM
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The way to defeat approach anxiety is to surrender to it. Not to try and control it, not to calm down, not to avoid it in anyway. On the contrary, spoke up your anxiety as much as possible. So this. Go to sleep early in the evening. Wake up around midnight. Shit, shower and shave, down a redbull and head over to your nearest club. Spend the entire night there NOT drinking. Stay until they close the club.
/r/seduction17/02/25 12:27 AM
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They are easier. Stop putting yourself below women .
/r/seduction16/02/25 07:41 PM
1

Isn’t this your beloved mystery method? Lololol
/r/seduction16/02/25 07:40 PM
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Okay. Here are a few pointers. Stop taking women out on dates. You are in college. Women want to fuck and move on with their lives. Asking them out on dates signals more serious intentions. Stop focusing on getting sex. Of you want it too much, you are chasing them. If you are chasing, they are running away. Learn to play hard to get and to pull away from them until their rape you. If you meet a girl don’t ask her out on a date. Tell her “my dorm room is 123, you bring a bottle of wine, I will g…
/r/seduction16/02/25 02:12 PM
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What do you need this girl for if you are not fucking bet?
/r/seduction16/02/25 02:09 PM
1

As I said, if you can’t even find yourself hot and lovable, why should women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:20 PM
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Women read romance novels because it fulfills an emotional need. Men watch porn because it fulfills an emotional need for them. Are you telling me men would rather fuck some girl who starfishes than a chick who takes it up the ass and swallows? But hey? Go ahead and keep repeating the same old BS about how you want a kind, gentle and sensitive guy who caters to your every whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:20 PM
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Many years and decades even of brainwashing and conditioning. The exact same reasons men believe they should be nice guys and cater to a woman’s every whim.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:20 PM
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There is actually a lot you can do, but you are just not motivated enough to change the thing that matters. And that’s the negative thinking that’s preventing you from getting women. That’s the only difference between you and the guys who are getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 01:15 PM
1

Condoms
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:03 PM
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Just keep going out with the mission to get laid. Go out late. At least an hour before closing time.
/r/seduction15/02/25 01:01 PM
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Stop focusing on trying to please her or perform perfectly. Take deep breaths, focus on enjoying her body and the person you are with.
/r/seduction15/02/25 12:59 PM
1

You do know that people date and get laid? Maybe not you, but others do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 12:52 PM
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You are not the brightest bulb in the room are you?
/r/seduction15/02/25 04:03 AM
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So who is dating and fucking all of these women….if not men? But somehow men are 4 stages behind? Make it make sense Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:00 AM
2

Stop telling yourself you are lacking. Stop trying to flirt or get them interested over text. All you need to text is: “hey, it’s Bob. Let’s go out”. Then arrange time and date and place to meet. You are over complicating something so simple because someone on a subreddit told you you need texting game and to keep girls “warmed up”. Don’t be stupid.
/r/seduction15/02/25 03:31 AM
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Stop telling yourself you are lacking. Stop trying to flirt or get them interested over text. All you need to text is: “hey, it’s Bob. Let’s go out”. Then arrange time and date and place to meet. You are over complicating something so simple because someone on a subreddit told you you need texting game and to keep girls “warmed up”. Don’t be stupid.
/r/seduction15/02/25 03:31 AM
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Oy vey
/r/seduction15/02/25 03:29 AM
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Well, if they are the ones asking all the questions, they are in control. Before you know what questions you have to ask, you need to know what answers you want to get. Does that make sense? For you to know what answers you want to get, you need to know what you want? Do you understand?
/r/seduction15/02/25 03:28 AM
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You can’t escape your nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:25 AM
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Pathetic men? And thousands of authors of romance novels that get read by tens of millions of women every year.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:24 AM
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Men (nice guys) tend to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what makes the “bad boy” attractive to women. They believe that there is a cause and effect relationship between a guy being abusive, a cheater, or a criminal and having sexual success. The reality is many women will tolerate this shitty behavior, because those men fulfill their emotional needs better than a nice guy would. Think of it like this. How many stories have you heard of men getting their balls stomped and being disrespecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:25 PM
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Yeah, never broadcast that you are lonely, single, that you got dumped, that you are still hung up on an ex, that you are a virgin, sexless, etc. That’s literally saying “Nobody else wants me and you shouldn’t either”. But men are so hung up on women validating their “loneliness” problem that they end up shooting themselves in the balls over and over and over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:07 PM
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There is a much bigger problem at hand. Women are extremely sensitive to appearing needy or desperate in anyway. They will often say they are busy on a Friday night when you ask them out although they don’t have anything to do but sit home and watch reruns of Sex in the City. They don’t want to appear like nobody wants them and they have no plans. There are a ton of these little “games” women play. Understand that just being on a dating app for women is like saying “I can’t meet anyone, nobody w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:43 PM
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I think you are drawing the wrong conclusions from your experience, or rather you are making a seemingly logical, but incorrect jump from the cause to the effect. Many people recommend physical exercise as a cure for depression or low self esteem, but it is not the exercise or gym itself that causes the improvement in confidence and mood. What actually happens, is people who make a commitment to care about themselves and be nicer to themselves, including physical exercise, skincare, cosmetic pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:51 PM
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Be fat and be proud of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:36 PM
1

As I said you need to hang around more guys who get laid. Not just one. All your friends need to be guys who get laid. Maybe it will rub off on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:42 AM
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Here is a little mission for you. Go find guys who get laid and start hanging out with them. When you only hangout and talk to guys who don’t get laid, it will seem to you like no one is getting laid, while in reality most people are getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:37 AM
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Nobody really knows where thoughts come from.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:35 PM
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Well Homo sapiens has somehow managed to get laid for hundreds of thousands of years way before language existed.
/r/seduction13/02/25 09:51 PM
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I mean it’s clear as day. She can’t have the ex (he’s an ex). It’s probably because he dumped her. Women want what they can’t have.
/r/seduction13/02/25 09:50 PM
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It’s interesting that you haven’t actually shared with us what was said exactly, which I bet will be something really dumbass and autistic.
/r/seduction13/02/25 07:45 PM
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Oy vey
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 12:54 PM
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This is not going to end well.
/r/seduction13/02/25 11:59 AM
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I mean the problem is so obvious to me, but you are not seeing it like you can’t see the forest for the trees. It’s so so so simple. Women you don’t find attractive are going after you because you treat them differently than attractive women. You don’t care about the unattractive ones, you don’t try to impress them, you are not attracted to them or all that interested in speaking to them even. And because of that behavior, which you display naturally with these women, they perceive you as someon…
/r/seduction13/02/25 11:58 AM
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Sex is absolutely not special to women. But even the horniest woman has certain requirements for a man she goes to bed with. You just have to fit the requirements (and not, it’s not about being a 6’5” millionaire male model).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:45 AM
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The biggest problem men have in dating is the thing between their ears. And no. I don’t mean their face. I mean the negative, self defeating thoughts that constantly swirl in their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:41 AM
1

Aren’t you a little too old to believe in fairy tales 🤣?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:35 AM
1

So are you saying that virtually all women have insecure attachment disorder or whatever it is called? Because at one point we have to admit to ourselves that labeling these behaviors as toxic, insecure attachments, daddy issues, etc. is just a major cope and maybe, just maybe, women have an emotional need for a man with rough edges who has the balls the to do whatever he wants and not listen to her. And that’s what excites them. And the guy who files all his edges off, becomes domesticated and …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:33 AM
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If you don’t create drama for a woman, she will create drama for you. When a woman knows that she has landed you and that you are not going anywhere and therefore you are no longer a challenge she has to win over, she loses almost all attraction for you. That’s why it’s important for a man to keep doing whatever he wants on his terms even in a relationship. I’m very consistent with the gym for example and don’t cancel gym sessions because she wants to hang out with me. I often go to rock concert…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:30 AM
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Women are highly adaptable. If you approach them from the frame of auditioning to be their provider, they will automatically assume the frame of screening you to see if you are good enough to even talk to them. And if you approach them from a frame of screening them for being a slutty bangmaid, she will respond by tuning into one. There are really only two roles you can play when it comes to interactions with women. You can either be pursuer or the pursued. If you assume one role, the woman has …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:26 AM
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Not having fear of rejection means nothing. The way you frame it means that you still mostly expect rejection. You may actually have fear of success.
/r/seduction13/02/25 04:06 AM
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Success with women is predicated on two things: Having balls - overcoming your fears, not being afraid of women, talking to them, expressing your interest in them and not being ashamed of wanting to fuck them And Knowing how to play the game: most men want to jump into something serious way too soon and end up scaring women off. Instead, you have to learn to play a bit hard to get, to be a challenge for her, be a guy she can’t land or get to settle down very easily. Women will always value a guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:58 AM
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It starts with your inner game. The only thing that matters is not your looks, how short you are, how bald you are, how old you are, etc. I bet you have seen guys that are all of that and they still manage to get women. The only thing that is the problem is the thing between your ears. The way you think about yourself and about women. Men who struggle with women are generally negative; they have a negative view of themselves, they are afraid and anxious and they view women as being above them. I…
/r/seduction13/02/25 02:36 AM
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Here is what you doz go to sleep early in the afternoon and wake up at 2AM. Shit, shower and shave, down a redbull and head over to the nearest club (15 mins door to door). Arrive by the time it’s almost closing time. You will have your pick of girls who’ve waited around all night to find someone to fuck. Approach them with a lot of balls, not a lot of talking and after 5-10 mins, just say “let’s get out of here” and head to your place.
/r/seduction13/02/25 01:07 AM
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It means you are not really authoritative and came across as an insecure clown
/r/seduction12/02/25 05:45 PM
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Yeah cold approaching is about the worst thing you can do. It’s so extremely needy and weird. You need to work on your inner game. On feeling valuable and in demand. In order to develop that attitude, it will take time. Create a story that you tell yourself every single day and might. Repeat it until you believe it. The key to feeling valuable is to not do anything that subtracts from your value. Don’t keep your apartment dirty. Don’t dress like shit. Don’t do any loser activities like play too …
/r/seduction12/02/25 11:42 AM
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Here are a few lines that have been used on me: “You are so fucking hot, we are gonna have some fun tonight”. That was pretty forward but it worked. Another one, touch his arm then say “ooooh, do you workout? Your arms are huge!” The most typical one is eye fucking. Just look into his eyes and pretend you are fucking him or sucking his dick.
/r/seduction12/02/25 11:38 AM
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In the mating and dating arena, a high value man is the man who can get the most bitches. Your definition is simply of a guy who focused on his career and has some very conventional traits, none of which get him any bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:34 AM
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How is it that women are only fucking 6’5” muscular Chads with chiseled jaws, yet all their progeny seems to be scrawny, autistic uggos?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:32 AM
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Jesus Christ what is this? Another weird Japanese trend?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:30 AM
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It doesn’t work because guys do it wrong. They do it uninvited, they are trying to break through a locked door, instead of walking through a door that’s held open for you. But for that to happen you need to do some inner work. You need to actually find your own value and believe what you have is of value to other people especially women. Being valuable is the most important feeling in the world. Most men only feel valuable if they posses something that society values, such as height, athleticism…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:22 PM
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Wells you know how American and European women’s pussies are like totally different and placed on a different part of their bodies, right?
/r/seduction11/02/25 08:14 PM
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If they are telling you that, it means you are chasing them. Stop chasing them. You should tell them: “Hey, btw, I have a girlfriend, so I’m not hitting on you, but…” This way, they will have to be the one chasing you. If they eventually say “but what about your girlfriend”, just say “oh, I just say this so girls don’t think they have an invitation to start hitting on me and trying to drag me to the bathroom. I don’t want to look like a slut, you know, and be judged just for my looks.”
/r/seduction11/02/25 08:11 PM
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It has never been effective for me. The problem with guys is that they make it too easy for women. Signal too much interest, they ready to get sexual, talk about sex, etc. Women are much more intrigued when they are unsure if you are attracted to them. Also, these days most women bring sex up first to which I usually say: “Why are you talking about sex? We don’t know each other that well yet and I’d like to not talk about this right now”. That’s when they usually start chasing me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:26 PM
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lol so this girl rejected you multiple times and you finally got a date and now you are asking if you should continue being a wimp?
/r/seduction11/02/25 05:16 PM
2

I am focusing on enjoying myself and my life and not pursuing women. Somehow, they seem way more attracted to me as opposed to when I was a creepy overpursuer, always trying to “obtain” something from them.
/r/seduction11/02/25 04:59 PM
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Understand that women are conditioned to believe certain things and they have an automatic response to questions like these. Others include: Do women like shirtless pics in a profile? Automatic response: ewwwww, no! Reality: they do, because they lust after men’s bodies as much as we must after theirs. So if you have abs and muscle mass, absolutely post a shirtless photo. Do women like it when you post photos with other women? Automatic response: ewwwww, no, I will never match with a guy expecti…
/r/seduction11/02/25 04:00 PM
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I don’t approach anymore. By and large women approach me these days.
/r/seduction11/02/25 03:29 PM
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For me it started out as a necessity and then it turned into something more. When I was young, I was extremely shy. My first girlfriend approached me and basically pursued me. I thought that this was how things were going to work with women, but oh boy, was I mistaken. I eventually broke up with her to move to another country and fell into a depression and isolation because I didn’t know anybody and felt out of place. Didn’t have a social circle, so one day I figured out I will die alone and sex…
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:51 PM
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My favorite use of palm reading (not as an opener but once you start talking to them) was something like this: “So, back in my country, this gypsy woman taught me how to read palms. Do you want me to read yours? Ok, cool. Let’s see! Okay, see this line here. This is your life line. It’s nice and long and strong. And this one here…this is your LOVE line. Hold on a second…oh, that’s very interesting!” “What? What is so interesting?” “Okay, see how this other line crosses your LOVE line? This tells…
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:46 PM
1

Ha. Funny. The other week me and my friends were approached by a couple of girls with an opinion opener. They asked something about what the best pickup line is and then read off of a list of silly but funny pick up lines. I thought it was brilliant. The best way to reply to those are “Hey….are you hitting on me/us?” The girl will probably reply something like “No, I’m not, I’m just curious about what men think blah blah” to which you should reply in a playful way “Oh, if you are not going to hi…
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:43 PM
1

What if I told you you don’t have to “escalate” in the traditional, creepy pursuer way that the Game espouses?
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:39 PM
1

I mean if you can’t distinguish between these two, you need to go back to kindergarten.
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:39 PM
1

Well, your idea of “passing” a test is that it has to always be cocky and with an attitude. But the best way to pass tests is to just ignore them, which didn’t score very well using your scale. So total BS.
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:38 PM
3

Conservative places are the best BFF or this because of how taboo these kinks are.
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:32 PM
0

Just relax man. Only every other second person on earth is a woman. Don’t be so needy that you HAVE TO talk to every hot piece of ass you see on the street.
/r/seduction11/02/25 01:32 PM
1

Okay. I live in the biggest US metro and I still have only met one lesbian couple and they are not even from here. It’s also the city that has 4 lesbian bars total. 4. That’s not a typo. That’s FOUR LESBIAN BARS.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 12:54 PM
1

How many lesbians do you know personally? There are like 30 lesbian bars in all of the USA. So how many lesbians do YOU know personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 11:27 AM
2

You have a right to have whatever standards you want and we have a right not to give two flying fucks about your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:01 AM
0

Do you gonna tell me a butch lesbian is actually very feminine? I just can’t with you people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:06 AM
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Good for you. And you don’t seem to have a very strong grasp on the feminine/masculine polarity.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:13 AM
2

You are absolutely wrong about this. In gay and lesbian relationships there is a much sharper distinction between the feminine and masculine. If you see a lesbian couple, you know right away which one is the butch and which one the femme. The butch dresses like a guy because she wants to appear strong and protective and the femme dresses, well, feminine. You are completely misinterpreting the asshole thing. Being a nice guy is ultimately very submissive and feminine. It’s not about being an abus…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 01:24 AM
4

Well. If these guys have already given up anyways wouldn’t it be better to have SOME relationships, instead of absolutely none?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:37 PM
1

Yeah. I hear you. Many of the tips and advices you’ve gotten probably ring hollow and sound stupid. It’s not worth your time and effort actually following through. I guess you will never know
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:32 PM
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I don’t care to present it in a way that benefits them. They are either motivated to solve their problem or they are not. For the most part, it seems like guys are actually NOT motivated to solve their problem. In a lot of ways, it’s much easier to say that a problem doesn’t have a solution so you can give up trying to solve rather than admit that maybe you are the problem in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:12 PM
7

Nobody is saying to replace romantic relationships with family (unless you live in Alabama and can kill two birds with one stone). That’s the reason you are resisting this advice. Because you think it is designed to deprive of you of your hopes for a romantic relationship. But nothing could be further from the truth. See, while you and countless men sit here and lament their poor luck with “the ladies” because they are too short or ugly, the reality is that it is their intense self hatred and ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:43 PM
2

Don’t focus on approaching and obtaining women. Focus on going out to have a good time, socialize and get to know new and interesting people. The reason guys get approach anxiety is because they have over expectations. They set themselves a goal like “I MUST GET THIS GIRL’S NUMBER” or “I MUST MAKE HER INTERESTED IN ME”, which inevitably leads to you making the interaction into a big deal and therefore making yourself nervous and anxious. As a matter of fact, do this. Go out for a couple of weeks…
/r/seduction10/02/25 07:44 PM
7

I agree! If you are deficient in social skills, you need to practice. Also; it is very easy to spot a guy who doesn’t do much socializing and who is not getting his needs fulfilled by other people. A guy who appears to lack social interactions and connections will be extremely needy and this turns others off like nothing else. Men need to become better at meeting their own emotional needs and not be dependent on women like little boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:17 PM
-1

The problem is even bigger than this. It trades men to adopt female behavior and women to adopt male behavior. Everything BP tells you about women is wrong. 100%. For example; that you have to have a good career and money. That you have to be nice and available. That you have to be sensitive. That the man does the courting and pursuing. That you have to be a provider for women. That you must convince them to give you a chance. That you have to get them interested. That they are the choosers. Etc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:04 PM
3

Often times career choices are a reflection of the persons inner drive and confidence in themselves. I mean if the guy just works part time, is broke AND he doesn’t have anything else going for him, then he is toast. But if he plays in a shitty band, has good dick game or pursued by a lot of other women, then he can be broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:54 PM
1

Yes, especially if you want to fuck hot women. Hotness should never be enough. Even if your criteria is “she must be hot AND have a PhD in sucking dick.”
/r/seduction10/02/25 05:52 PM
3

I learned it all from your mom.
/r/seduction10/02/25 05:33 PM
1

You are looking at this the wrong way. Firstly, stop pursuing women. It’s just the totally wrong frame to have. Give women the opportunity to pursue you. You speak about purpose but women are not your purpose and never will. You should have a purpose in life that is bigger than women. Whether that’s your career, music; a sport or you have decided to feed starving children in Africa. Whatever it is, find your purpose and go after it. Women are just icing on the cake. At one point you may want to …
/r/seduction10/02/25 04:50 PM
12

It’s all about inner game. I’ve had porn stars hit on me, but you need to know how to play the game. You have to be completely calm and unaffected by beauty, fake tits, butts, etc. if you are going there like a kid in a candy store, slobbering all over them, it won’t work. If she takes her top off you have yo react like you are reading the Financial Times and saw an article about interest rates going down half a percentage point. The second thing is, you have to be very skeptical of women. Treat…
/r/seduction10/02/25 04:47 PM
-1

That’s why you should always let women rape you. Just keep pulling away from them until they jump your bones.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:09 PM
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Nice
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 11:12 AM
0

You are kind of clueless citing Mystery Method. lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:28 AM
2

lol. I mean I usually defend women in these parts of Reddit, but jeez, you have such delusional takes sometimes that it makes it really hard to take you seriously. Not you specifically. Women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:26 AM
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I still can’t understand how so many men are completely clueless about what makes women attracted to a man. But I will give it to you. Many times women are almost as clueless as the men are. It is very simple. But until you truly understand and believe this, you will struggle with women. Women NEVER want what they CAN get and ONLY want what they CAN’T get. If you look at all your successful and unsuccessful interactions with women through the lens of the above statement, it will make total sense…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:18 AM
1

These same guys who cry that nobody loves them then go home and love themselves in front of their computers all night.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:55 PM
1

You have to read between the lines. They are actually saying “an ugly man has zero options so even if he wanted to cheat he wouldn’t and he is also so desperate that he will thank his lucky stars everyday for a woman even giving him a chance that he may not even think of cheating”. In their minds having no options somehow makes you a very desirable guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:53 PM
1

I just find it funny what all these guys seem to creep everyone out when they step out in public. I’ve never seen anyone call the cops on someone unless they were acting weird and suspicious. But hey that’s just me. Maybe I just look like a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:50 PM
0

It’s just funny how all these things that never happen seem to always happen to the same guys. And how they always explain it as being ugly and socially retarded and not that they are somehow creeping others out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 07:43 PM
1

Story as old as time. You do what has been working because it works and the second the woman expresses some interest, you discard everything that you have seen with your own eyes to work and then wonder why she pulled away?
/r/seduction09/02/25 04:22 PM
0

He is saying he doesn’t want to let her win by having sex with her. Yes, he is fucking retarded or brain damaged.
/r/seduction09/02/25 04:19 PM
1

Don’t wait. Confess asap. And don’t forget to do a grand gesture to showcase your love for her.
/r/seduction09/02/25 04:18 PM
1

Charge women to sleep with you.
/r/seduction09/02/25 04:17 PM
4

10th time is the charm my nygga.
/r/seduction09/02/25 04:17 PM
5

You don’t need to compliment women. You are better off not doing it anyway. Just be a normal guy. If she says something that can be misconstrued as her complimenting you, then accuse her of hitting on you.
/r/seduction09/02/25 04:15 PM
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Because the depressed mind thinks that the problem is caused by external circumstances and therefore only a change in external circumstances can solve it. If they were to look at things objectively, they would realize that things are not nearly as dire as they believe they are and that they can find many instances of others in their circumstances (or worse) who are not so negative and depressed. This type of objective analysis of your circumstances will lead you to the conclusion that your depre…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:47 PM
0

The sad part is that when I was younger, I loved MILFS. Now I’m at the age that MILFS are supposed to be and I’m not nearly as interested in MILFS anymore. Gotta move on up to Matures. Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:27 PM
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Being a provider is not something that has ever turned women on. It’s 100% socially fabricated.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:26 PM
3

I honestly don’t think loneliness or romancelessness is really the problem. From the behavior that most men exhibit on this sub, I would say the vast majority (of complainers) are simply depressed. Low self esteem is also a form of depression. Social anxiety and self isolation are just co-morbidities associated with depression. It is very common for a depressed person to want to self isolate. It happens in the animal world too. When two rams fight for dominance, the one that loses, also loses it…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:23 PM
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I find it truly strange that these stories only seem to happen to the socially awkward ugly men. It seems that many of you have had the cops called on you for just entering a bar and making eye contact with a woman, hanging out in the park and being accused of being a pedo, walking down the street and people start throwing trash at you and yelling that you are a creep. Interesting how these things that never happen, seem to always happen to men like you described. Poor, innocent, slightly shy gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:16 PM
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Woman C: total slut who can deepthroat and wants her hair pulled
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:11 PM
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lol, dude you lost me at she asked to postpone. You are still stuck in chaser/supplicating mode/eat 5 meters of her shit just to see the hole it came out of mode. Start thinking of yourself as a valuable commodity that’s in demand. If you don’t respect yourself, no woman will either. If she requested to postpone, she’s just playing you. Say “nah, I’m good. Have a nice life”. And go fuck another girl. Do not be NICE and ACCOMODATING to women ever.
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:26 PM
11

Say “too bad, I only date whores”.
/r/seduction08/02/25 06:22 PM
-1

You lost me at women wanting to be pursued. That’s actually completely incorrect. Women LOVE pursing men and WINNING them over. You just have to be the right man for the job and that’s almost 100% dependent on your behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 06:19 PM
1

I mean Grinder has been a thing for over 15 years, so not sure what these guys are complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:42 PM
2

I mean if you think you are second tier, then you’ve already lost the game before you even began.
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:25 AM
-1

No. Let her worry about texting you. Stop living in a world where you have to be worried if the woman is pleased with your performance on the date. Start living in a world where you already know she wants you and where she is worried whether you like her enough to want to see her again.
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:24 AM
-2

Think about how pathetic it is for a man to be afraid to ask a fucking cashier out. A fucking cashier.
/r/seduction08/02/25 04:23 AM
1

If you use money and status to get women interested, all you will get is gold digging social climbers. I’ve never met a man who flaunted his money to get girls, who actually liked him for who he is, or who stuck around if he lost his money. The solution is much easier. It doesn’t even require money. It requires changing how you behave. From being a needy, creepy pursuer to a guy who behaves like he is pursued.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:22 AM
4

Right. They are lamenting and doing absolutely nothing to solve their situations
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:56 PM
1

What? All I’m trying to say is that none of these guys actually want help or to find solutions to help them get girlfriends. If being sexless and lonely was such a dire need, don’t think they’d be more motivated to do something about it other than bitch and moan?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 07:21 PM
1

Being lonely is being desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:52 PM
14

Exactly. So many guys claim sex and intimacy are a dire need for their psychological well being only to say “the juice isn’t worth the squeeze” in the very next sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:28 PM
9

Why are the only two choices: either be a desperate, miserable human being who looks at women as objects of desire OR be a monk and never look at another woman ever again?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:14 PM
1

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the solution I have proposed many times on this subreddit, and it shows by the way you summarized with (with a hint of mockery and disdain, might I add). What you think I’m proposing is it what I’m proposing. But that’s fine. You are not willing to actually take accountability and would rather just blame women’s standards. How typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:25 PM
1

Again you so far up your own ass you can’t even take a breather if you think the solution is to be a neutered chump. Shows me everything I need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:20 PM
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No, I get it. You are harping on the whole “end of civilization as we know it because men aren’t getting laid”. I’ve heard this a million times already. Yet, here we are. Somehow we survived for over 300,000 years as a species. My question was very basic. There is a solution to male sexlessness, so if that was really the problem, why hasn’t anyone actually implemented the solution? The solution is there. It’s counterintuitive and it’s the exact opposite of being needy and desperate for sex. So i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:24 PM
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Okay, if the problem is men not getting sex, what if I had the solution, but it involved the guy actually not treating sex and women like a need? What if I told you that the reason men are not getting laid enough is precisely because they believe sex is a needy, which results in neediness, which results in them repelling women? So here, I’m presenting a solution yo sexlessness yet nobody wants to hear it. They prefer to twist themselves up in misery rather than actually do what works. How do you…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:56 PM
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Fantastic post and thank you for putting it so eloquently. If I may add one thing, that I think is implied in your post but maybe not explicitly stated: human beings/brains are givers of meaning. We can give meaning to a ton of things, just because we can. People give meaning to some guy in the sky that they have never seen and are willing to kill millions in the name of that guy, they have never seen. The same way, anyone can give sex a specific meaning. To some guy, it means a need, and he wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:35 PM
4

The attitude that has gotten me the most women is something along the lines of “I’m waaaaaay too hot for this girl, she’s lucky I even looked in her general direction. But if she does something to get me interested I will give her a chance.”
/r/seduction07/02/25 02:35 PM
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Again, you are not getting it. Making sex a huge deal is actually detrimental to the person making it a huge deal. You are exponentially increasing the stakes and putting pressure on yourself. If you keep telling yourself sex is a need to be considered a normal, functioning adult, then logically, if you are not having the sex you want it must mean that you are an abnormal freak. Now, how do you think that having g low self esteem would aid one in getting sex? From another angle, if sex is consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:11 PM
0

You almost had it right. It’s not the promotion of sex work and OF. It’s the incessant trend to make men more like women. Male traits were portrayed as impure and toxic and for the last 40-50 years, men have been told to be more gentle, nicer, more sensitive, less competitive, more committed, stay home instead of go out and have adventures. Women basically turned men into women; while slowly adopting masculine qualities themselves - being boss babes, chasing career over raising a family, being b…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:34 AM
1

Correct
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:30 AM
1

Not at all. You are just barking up the wrong tree. It’s not their looks that are so offputting as is their behavior, which is a result of the very belief system I outlined. You live in a world where the man has to be the pretty one, where women call all the shots, where you can only dance around like a monkey going that someone will “pickme, pickme”. You have actually adopted the feminine mind frame and then you are surprised why women aren’t attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:25 AM
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lol, while it’s a definite plus for a man to be fit and lean, what women crave emotionally is completely different. You guys still live in this world of “woman is the chooser, and all I can do is eat 10ft of her shit just to see the hole it came out of”. So pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:56 AM
0

Is that where you found the section on how to get a mail order bride?
/r/seduction06/02/25 09:12 PM
-5

lol. Cummon man. The guy was a clown. Couldn’t get laid with a fistful of dollars in a Tijuana whorehouse.
/r/seduction06/02/25 09:10 PM
1

Yes
/r/seduction06/02/25 09:09 PM
1

Stop texting women after you have hung out with them. Let them worry about calling you and texting you. You are chasing her and that’s what caused all your problems.
/r/seduction06/02/25 09:08 PM
1

Yep
/r/seduction06/02/25 09:06 PM
1

If a woman is rude to you, you should reply “hey, I don’t know who pissed in your Cheerios this morning, but I assure you, it wasn’t me. Have a good night now.”
/r/seduction06/02/25 09:05 PM
-2

Please do not speak for all us. Speak for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 05:39 PM
2

Because it’s all about being a chameleon to try and please the woman. It’s also predicated on constantly pursuing women, trying to entertain them and prove your “value” to them. It’s totally the opposite of what actually works.
/r/seduction06/02/25 03:30 PM
5

Only if depression was closely associated with the way you think about your circumstances…oh wait!!! https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6370308/#:~:text=In%20these%20studies%2C%20repetitive%20negative,2007;%20Hong%2C%202007).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:47 PM
1

Ah doy
/r/seduction06/02/25 01:47 PM
2

I’m just teasing you.
/r/seduction06/02/25 01:47 PM
16

Here is the real problem with this. When you define something as a NEED, you are telling yourself “I cannot possibly live without that thing” or “I can never experience happiness without that thing that I need”. So a man manages to brainwash himself into being addicted to/dependent on sex and love in order to feel whole and happy. And if he does manage to get regular sex and find love, he most likely will feel happy. Until, he doesn’t get them. Then what? Then he spirals into misery, neediness a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 01:08 PM
6

You are really misunderstanding the problem. When people (men and women) tell you “sex is NOT a need”, “love is NOT a need”, they are not doing this for their own benefit. They are not saying “please don’t need me so badly otherwise you might be prone to rape me or sexually enslave me”. We are saying this for your benefit. So you can regain your power and freedom from the slavery of your own mind, that is telling you you absolutely need sex in order to be happy and that if you don’t have it; you…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:44 PM
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lol nice try buddy. In the comments you will find that most men are so addicted to their own suffering, that they would reject any solution that provides relief. It’s like they enjoy being in their self made prison of misery. It’s truly baffling. I guess that’s why so many posts here are all about seeking pity and empathy. Guys don’t actually want solutions, they just want someone to validate their choice to stay miserable and powerless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:41 PM
1

How will I drown out the voices in my head otherwise?
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:37 AM
1

My nygga what boundaries?
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:33 AM
1

First of all, take several deep breaths. Breath in, breath out slowly. Do it a few more times. It is totally understandable to feel emotional and angry when a person strikes you along. She was definitely giving you the runaround and it makes sense that you felt pissed off. However, I want you to take responsibility for the role that you played in making this happen. You said you had asked her out multiple times and she kept canceling each time. Think about it? If she canceled once why would you …
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:32 AM
0

I can’t take anyone who goes to Planet Fitness seriously 😜
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:28 AM
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Misery Method is total bullshit. It is fundamentally so needy and pathetic, that it pisses me off just talking about it. Plus the guy tried to kill himself twice cause he wasn’t really getting laid. Don’t fall for that.
/r/seduction06/02/25 11:20 AM
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Guys who don’t give a shit about their beauty and who treat them like whores. Treat a queen like a whore and a whore like a queen. Every guy treats them like a queen.Just do the opposite of what every guy does.
/r/seduction06/02/25 04:10 AM
2

I go to the gym so thirsty bitches can eye rape me. I don’t want to actually talk to them.
/r/seduction06/02/25 04:08 AM
1

There are a couple of indicators here that are telling me you are playing the wrong frame in these interactions. You are concerned about checking if they are interested and whether they want to see you again. Think about this. Does this sound like the dominant role? Does this sound like what an archetypal male will think? Of course not, because this type of anxiety is indicative of the submissive role, the role of the pursuer. That’s the role women should play, but you are likely forcing them in…
/r/seduction05/02/25 09:57 PM
0

Have never looked at it, but yes, girls should be the one chasing. But it’s not that easy. You have to set up the frame as them chasing you. You can’t just show up and expect panties to be thrown at you.
/r/seduction05/02/25 07:32 PM
2

Keep talking to her while your friend shows her how to say “glurp, glurp, glurp, ahhhhh”.
/r/seduction05/02/25 07:18 PM
-1

You are leading dummy.
/r/seduction05/02/25 07:16 PM
1

Oh god. You are not getting it. First of all, stop trying to create connections over text. Second, this is teasing, not making creepy sexual comments/jokes. Anyway, go worry about pleasing her and escalating.
/r/seduction05/02/25 03:36 PM
8

Men always manage to talk their way out of getting laid.
/r/seduction05/02/25 02:44 PM
1

You are thinking about it the wrong way. You are too concerned with making it happen and getting worried about having one shot with her. She should be the one worried that she has one shot with you and how to get you in bed. Here is what you do. Text her and say “Hey, I’m free X evening. I know just the place (conveniently walking distance from her hotel or even better at her hotel bar), let’s meet there at 8pm. And one more thing…we don’t know each other that well, so don’t get any ideas, ok? W…
/r/seduction05/02/25 02:42 PM
0

You don’t. Stop trying to escalate and trying so hard to get girls naked. Just keep pulling away from her until she propositions you. Frame the entire interaction as HER trying to get YOU in bed. Until she does.
/r/seduction05/02/25 11:36 AM
1

You can’t. Give it up. Stop trying.
/r/seduction05/02/25 11:34 AM
4

Make eye contact and imagine fucking him or sucking his dick while not breaking eye contact.
/r/seduction05/02/25 11:33 AM
5

See, a sex worker is better because at least the guy knows what he is getting for his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 03:09 AM
-1

She already rejected you. How many chances do you have to give her before you realize how pathetic you come across?
/r/seduction04/02/25 11:03 PM
5

It’s rather simple but insidious. We live in a society and most people in society have to follow the social contract. We have been conditioned since we were little to ask/look for permission to do anything from our parents/authority figures and other adults. At one point, the people you need permission from becomes pretty much anybody who is not you. In a lot of ways, approaching a woman in a straightforward way and seducing her goes against the social contract. That’s why the power of having to…
/r/seduction04/02/25 11:02 PM
1

You up?
/r/seduction04/02/25 10:56 PM
9

Haven’t read it but the principles are always the same and have been the same for thousands of years: People never want what they can get and only want what they can’t get. Think about what pua and seduction is all about? How to go out and get the woman, how to pursue, how to never let any opportunity slip by. It’s extremely needy and it actually violates the above principle/law. The more elusive you come across as, the more you make her work for your attention and attraction, the more you pull …
/r/seduction04/02/25 10:55 PM
1

All boys need is this: https://archive.org/details/brent-smith-and-rick-h-archetypal-male
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 06:00 PM
1

My dad shared his seduction secret with me when I was well into my 20s. When on a crowded bus or party, he’d step on a girls shoe “accidentally” and then if she got really mad at him, he knew she wasn’t attracted. But if she was super cool with it and told him not to worry, then he knew he had an in.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 01:15 PM
1

Straight women are the worst. Bi women for the win!
/r/seduction03/02/25 09:41 PM
1

There is a lot of blame to go around, but it doesn’t help that women are brainwashed/conditioned to behave like nuns and men feel like they can’t be honest around them. Women also use shaming to make men behave and then wonder why men aren’t honest and forthcoming. So you do have women to blame for a lot of this as well. Glad to hear you have found a community that fosters more open communication.
/r/seduction03/02/25 09:19 PM
1

That’s all you do with a nice face? Look at it? Don’t even wanna sit on it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:11 PM
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I don’t agree at all. If I had to take a well educated guess, the one common thread I see among all unsuccessful guys is their extremely low self esteem, distorted thoughts and beliefs around women, dating and mostly themselves. Everyone walks around feeling like a nobody, behaving like a nobody and beginning for women’s attention and approval. But that’s not what women want. They don’t want the nice, gentle, insecure guy. They want someone who feels powerful and acts powerful. And that all come…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:09 PM
1

I mean you are dealing with people here, not car transmissions.
/r/seduction03/02/25 10:37 AM
1

What you have noticed is absolutely the creepiest and weirdest aspect of this community. Back in the day, more than 25 years ago now, this started as a bunch of guys who would exchange lighthearted pickup lines on the internet and recommend bars and clubs where hot girls would go. It eventually devolved into the weirdness of the early and mid 2000s. You don’t wanna go back to those days. Many guys here are still holding on to these days, being creepy pick up artists who seem women as trophies to…
/r/seduction03/02/25 10:34 AM
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You don’t respect yourself. You must make more of your life about getting women. Right now it’s not enough. Subjugate every dollar and minute of your life to the quest of getting women. That’s how you get self respect. 🤪
/r/seduction03/02/25 10:29 AM
1

Making someone else’s opinion of you more important than your own opinion of you is the most diminishing and pathetic thing one can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:07 AM
1

lol ru even for real
/r/seduction03/02/25 12:24 AM
1

Guys like that are why women make TikTok’s saying “don’t fucking approach us you creeps”.
/r/seduction03/02/25 12:23 AM
0

You have to keep chasing them until they relent and let you see the D.
/r/seduction03/02/25 12:21 AM
1

Bro, you need to spend at least 3 weeks texting back and forth and learning everything about her before you ask her out. And when you do ask her out, say something like this: “Hey, btw, wyd this weekend?” If she says “nuttin’”, say “well, I was wonder if you would maybe like to go to this new coffee shop that opened up on campus, but like you totally don’t have to if you are busy or something, I thought I’d just ask just in case”.
/r/seduction03/02/25 12:20 AM
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You are never gonna get it if you treat it like it’s made of gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:58 PM
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Weird
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:43 PM
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I’ve had many men on this very sub tell me that the hole between a woman’s legs is as valuable as diamonds.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:48 PM
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No, because of skanks like that pop out kids and then splurge child support on themselves. That should be criminal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:44 PM
1

Then don’t date. Just hook up.
/r/seduction02/02/25 09:37 PM
1

There are a few reasons why the traditional cold approach doesn’t work. For the most part, cold approaching comes from a very needy frame. It is basically down to “Im a lonely, horny guy and I will go out and bother women to give me their number so I can pester them for sex”. It’s all about getting, taking, wanting. Another issue is, a guy sees a cute chick and without knowing anything about her other than that she looks good, he makes a decision right then and there that he wants to fuck her. A…
/r/seduction02/02/25 09:36 PM
0

Honestly, I don’t give a fuck. If you couldn’t be bothered to solve your own problems, why should anyone else be bothered with you. It’s like those homeless people who shit and piss all over themselves and then some woke bleeding heart asking others to treat them with dignity. I mean, if you want to be treated with dignity don’t shit and piss all over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:48 PM
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That’s why brothers hit it and quit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:45 PM
1

What is the purpose of having a conversation over text or over an app?
/r/seduction02/02/25 08:05 PM
3

Whomever is telling you to escalate is totally clueless. The problem is that you fall for them too fast and they lose interest because they are not chasing you anymore. Classic tragic tale. If anything, you should be pulling away from them sooner. After the first date or two, tell them that they are a really nice girl but that you just want to be friends. Stop being so available for dates. Screen them mercilessly. And when they start chasing you, don’t relax and start tripping yourself all over …
/r/seduction02/02/25 08:05 PM
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Always pull away from her and do it until she rapes you. A few ways you can communicate this are: Tease her about something she said, not cruelly or insultingly of course If she says something silly, give her the “whatchu talking bout Willis?” look. Have some criteria or requirements you want from a girl and always be probing her if she has those, and if she doesn’t say “yeah, I don’t think this is going to work”. For example, let’s say you want someone who’s spontaneous and uninhibited. So you …
/r/seduction02/02/25 02:03 PM
1

Well, go to places that women go to meet guys. Trendy cocktail bars, nightclubs, cool cafes, etc. Go out with a friend just to have fun, people watch and enjoy yourselves. Don’t focus on picking up girls. Then just try to strike up some conversations or give a compliment to a woman without any expectations. Don’t make it more than it is. Don’t try to hit on her, seduce her, make conversation, etc. Just banter, shoot the shit, etc. Eventually you will relax and it will become easier to just talk …
/r/seduction02/02/25 01:51 PM
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This is fine if your goal is to get rid of shyness and fear. If you are actually trying to get dates, this is a horrible approach.
/r/seduction02/02/25 03:42 AM
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Where the fuck so you sit in your living floor?
/r/seduction02/02/25 03:41 AM
2

I can’t fuck a woman who has bad nails. Like chipped, not taken care off. Ewwww. Gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:39 AM
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Having to work hard, strive, scale new peaks, do dangerous jobs, etc. They could do the bare minimum to have an okay life and just fuck whomever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 03:22 AM
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You summed up the exact reasons why these pathetic men can’t get laid in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:39 AM
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Men and women used to fuck whenever they wanted until the advent of agriculture and the notion of land ownership, where land was passed down to the first born. Therefore, a man HAD to make sure his first born was his and the easiest way to achieve this was to marry a virgin, which eventually kicked off the idea of morality, virginity being a virtue and condemned promiscuity. He is saying this worked swell for 10,000 years but because of technology and modern civilization, we are going back to ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 01:37 AM
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Here are some tips for an older woman: https://youtu.be/aVFfvwbhNJE?si=TpS4ZgqNgSCo5eWZ
/r/seduction01/02/25 08:24 PM
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It’s not my problem that he is going to sausage farms and gay clubs my nygga
/r/seduction01/02/25 08:22 PM
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lol, I went out last weekend to a bar in NYC and a couple of girls started hitting on me and my friends. So I have no idea what you are talking about.
/r/seduction01/02/25 01:11 PM
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Cause we don’t have to. Women approach me all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:01 PM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:37 AM
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I’m a 4’11” balding Indian janitor who smells like human excrement. How do I bed supermodels?
/r/seduction01/02/25 01:15 AM
1

Stop trying to seduce women.
/r/seduction01/02/25 01:14 AM
1

Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:10 AM
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of male/female dynamics.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 11:13 PM
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So which one is taller, stronger or richer? Is this like rock, paper, scissors? Does one defeat the other? Or do you have to have them all?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 10:07 PM
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Hey, you made the claim men watch vanilla porn. If you can’t take the heat, don’t start any kitchen fires.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:48 PM
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And yet one cursory outside will show you how incredibly wrong you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:47 PM
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I’m surprised that no one has mentioned how important the emotional experience of winning over the archetypal rogue male is to women. In prom you get to business right away. In erotica and romance novels there is a lot of buildup to the sex, typically starting with the woman being repulsed by the guy because of his roguish behavior. She does seem to like him and he doesn’t seem to be all that attracted to her. But she seems somehow always drawn to him, although his cocky behavior comes across as…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:46 PM
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The theory is that porn is capable of spiking your dopamine extremely fast. You literally put on a video and fast forward to your favorite scene. In both erotica and real life, this type of culmination takes a while to reach, so your dopamine raises in a more smooth and regulated manner. So watching porn is akin to doing a drug that hits your brain in almost an instant, vs doing some pleasureful activity that spreads the dopamine hit over time. Thats what makes it so addictive, supposedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:43 PM
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I love any porn where women get degraded: pissed on, rimming, tied up. Love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:40 PM
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Oh boy. It’s about your vibe and and about what you communicate to the woman verbally. Just for the record: “pursuing” and “chasing” are the same thing. They both mean that one person wants it more and is trying to convince the other person or court them in order to get them more interested. You can absolutely approach and ask out without chasing. Here is how it’s done. Step 1: Be clear about who you are. Before you even step out of the house, take note book or put it in Word. Write down who you…
/r/seduction31/01/25 09:37 PM
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Your analogy would totally be valid if there was 1 woman for every 10 men. But as it stands, women actually outnumber men in most countries. And funny thing about women! They keep making them! And it’s really surprising to me that you think this works in only one direction. As if there aren’t men out there who have plenty of options themselves. Maybe that’s not you, but hey; it don’t mean those guys don’t exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:10 PM
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They for sure want a leader. But do you think a true leader goes out there and tries to convince others to follow him, courts them (bribes them) with compliments, favors, drinks and dinners? Or does a true leader show up, unconcerned with validation from others, who knows his value in this world and who is looking to give someone a chance…as long as that person meets his criteria for a good follower, including how badly they want to be under his leadership? Leaders attract. Followers chase.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:09 PM
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And that’s the different between a man and a boy. A boy can’t control his urges and drools all over a nice pair of tits or a nice ass. A man can control himself and he understands what women truly crave on an emotional level. Mai go ahead and change your flair to Red Pill Boy cause that’s what you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:31 PM
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People (hey women are people too) never want what they can get and only want what they cannot get. Applies to dating and to getting a job. Have you ever thought why companies spend so much money on headhunters/recruiters and pay a premium so they can poach someone from a different company? Why don’t they hire one of the myriad of unemployed people or those who blast their resumes to every job opening? Same applies to dating. The men who get the most play are those that make women work for it and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:29 PM
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That’s your experience and the experience of 99% of men. Thats true. But that’s because both you and women have been conditioned to behave in a way that is counter to what actually works.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:27 PM
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lol, and why do you assume being approval seeking is some biological pre determination? Maybe that’s your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:48 PM
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Success with women has nothing to do with competing with other males. As a matter of fact, that’s a sure way to lose. The reason men are struggling so much is that everything they’ve been told about women is virtually wrong. Not only wrong, but often the complete opposite of what they have been told. Stuff like: The man is the pursuer, the man has to prove himself, the man has to show he can be a provider, the man has to take all the initiative, the woman is the chooser, the man has to initiate …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:26 PM
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And you have pinpointed the exact problem all these guys have. So much of their lives and self worth revolves around female approval, that it makes them come across as pathetic try hards, which ironically pushes women away even more. Many of those guys literally claim they wouldn’t even shower, eat well, or wear new underwear every day if it weren’t for women. I mean how fucking pathetic is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:06 PM
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Completely false.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:04 PM
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Wow, you guys really can’t see further than your own noses. Have you thought that maybe the way you come off is what’s hostile and people respond in kind? You “grievances” are all about attacking women and their “hypergamy” and blaming them for picking chads, etc. How do you expect they react when you attack them? That they will sit around meekly and accept that they are solely to blame for your “loneliness”?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 06:02 PM
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You are not horny enough or you need TRT.
/r/seduction31/01/25 11:45 AM
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What else is there to do?
/r/seduction31/01/25 03:46 AM
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Womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:45 AM
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I’ve literally suggested to guys to take testosterone to build some muscle and facial hair, and was met with the same attitude as if I just told them to eat their cat for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:28 AM
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The reason women have such “unreasonable” expectations and standards is that YOU, the men, are forcing them into having them by constantly pursuing them therefore making them the chooser. Being the chooser is a masculine role and being the person who courts is inherently very submissive/feminine role. You have the roles reversed and have women acting like men and you are not liking it. And neither are they.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 02:27 AM
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For any change to occur you have to address resistance. The resistance is just having mixed feelings about adopting new behaviors and world views. Guy believe that they were given the right playbook/blueprint on how to win over women and that it is the women who are wrong and fucked up when they don’t react according to the playbook - which is be nice, get a nice job, be presentable and clean, court the woman, do all the initiating, be her provider, chase her, etc. They want to keep playing by t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:58 AM
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Men have no excuses either, they just don’t have proper guidance and virtually everything they have been told about some is wrong - be nice, pursue them, always be the one making moves, court them, compliment them, show them you are a good provider, always do what the woman tells you to do, cancel plans to spend time with her because she feels insecure, date only one woman at a time, etc. All of it is wrong wrong wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:55 AM
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Other than point 1 and 3 all else is unnecessary. Actually, if you do it the right way it takes less effort and you are definitely not courting women. They are courting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 12:53 AM
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I’m 43 and girls half my age constantly hit on me.
/r/seduction31/01/25 12:50 AM
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Some people never learn their lesson.
/r/seduction31/01/25 12:50 AM
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Stop thinking about how to impress them. Start thinking about how lucky they are to be talking to you.
/r/seduction31/01/25 12:48 AM
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You don’t need to escalate. That’s the wrong way to do it. It’s completely backwards which is why so many of you are constantly getting last minute resistance or having m girls never call you after the first date. Don’t escalate. Do the opposite. Pull back and keep pulling back until she rapes you.
/r/seduction31/01/25 12:48 AM
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Yes
/r/seduction30/01/25 10:19 PM
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Okay, so that’s the first mistake. Look. Here is an exercise for you. Next time you go on a date, don’t look in a mirror and fix your hair. Wear whatever clothes and show up 10 mins late. Resolve that the purpose of this date is to find out if she’s good enough for you. If that’s too much, then focus only on getting to know her. Ideally, you will come up with a list of values, traits that you want in a woman (other than beauty) and you will gently probe her about these. If let’s say you want a w…
/r/seduction30/01/25 09:26 PM
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Do you go on dates with the preconceived notion that you want to get them in bed? Or have them like you? Make out with you, etc?
/r/seduction30/01/25 09:17 PM
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Well, I would argue differently. Taking care of your appearance, outfits, fitness and everything else should ideally be done out of love and admiration for yourself and NOT as a way to get approval and validation from others. In my experience, true self esteem is revealed when we are alone by ourselves. If the second we step away from the public eye, we start dressing like shit, don’t shower for days and eat cold pizza off of paper plates, then you should know that you don’t have true self estee…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 09:16 PM
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Dude I’ve hear it all. You are embarrassing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:17 PM
1

Yes but yes but yes but yes but
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 08:08 PM
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lol. You are still out there trying to seduce girls?
/r/seduction30/01/25 06:53 PM
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You are trying too hard.
/r/seduction30/01/25 06:52 PM
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Women also said they will stop having sex because he got elected. How did that work out?
/r/seduction30/01/25 06:45 PM
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Because they have been conditioned to say “I want a nice kind guy”. It’s literally everywhere. And when women tell you the truth, you get angry and call them sluts, hypergamous shoes, AWALT, etc. They don’t mean to lie. It’s just their social conditioning. And they really believe this, but they don’t respond to the nice kind guy emotionally. Men are also conditioned to behave ok certain ways. We are conditioned to say we want the nice good girls; who don’t wear revealing clothes, act sexy, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 03:41 PM
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Yes, it means you have a blocker in your subconscious that’s keeping you from giving yourself permission. Usually it is tied to social conditioning, that you have to meet certain criteria to feel good about yourself, like be successful, tall, have status, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:54 PM
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Good questions. You definitely cannot leave it to luck. You have to create these opportunities for women to pursue you and since women have been conditioned to be passive, you have to sometimes nudge them in the right direction. I believe it starts with two critical aspects that are all about you. You have to believe you have value. This is probably the biggest stumbling block for guys. They think they are worthless, too short, too ugly, etc. You have to do whatever you can to overcome this. Rec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:13 PM
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These days being conservative/republican is going against the grain. It requires a certain strength to be nonswayable and not succumb to the social pressure of wokeness. So it makes sense that guys like these do well with women. The liberal soyboys who are ready to change their entire worldview and lifestyle to please one mid girl because she accused them of mansplaning once are rarely the ones getting laid.
/r/seduction30/01/25 12:36 PM
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lol. You don’t get it do you. He’s not the one winning her heart. She’s the one winning his heart. She’s the one courting while the guy lives his exciting mysterious life. Read between the lines. Don’t try to be a vampire and werewolf, that’s not the point. Be a guy who doesn’t follow anyone else’s rules but his.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:12 PM
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Yes and no. Here is the thing. There are only two roles one can play in any romantic dynamic. You can either be the pursuer or the pursued. You can either do the courting or be courted. When you assume one role, the woman has no choice but to assume the other one automatically. And vice versa. What do you think is the role that men traditionally fall into? That’s right! They automatically assume the pursuer/courting role. The woman then assumes the pursued role and they are so conditioned to do …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:56 AM
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You are kind of right and kind of wrong. Yes, social approval is and extremely strong force you are contending with, but it is mostly an intellectual need, not an emotional need. Guys get caught up trying to fulfill the intellectual need and neglect the emotional. There are a ton of women who date/fuck men who are bad for them. Who are hot socially acceptable, guys who have a ton of women, some bartender with tattoos with no career prospects, the guy in the band, who mooches off of her, etc. I’v…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:40 AM
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lol? What? All you need to do is pick up ONE, yes ONE book from the most popular and best selling genre - Romance Novels. Just one book will tell you exactly what women want. Cheat sheet my ass. You expect women to teach you how to be a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:35 AM
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lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:33 AM
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Because women are as much victims to social programming as men are. They are conditioned to say stuff like “I want a nice, sensitive guy”. It’s the default answer. It’s the same way that a man says “I want a demure woman with low body count”, yet will go and blow their salary at a strip club, watch born with slutty skanks and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 10:32 AM
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That’s your interpretation of it. To me it means stop looking for an outcome and having expectations and just connect without any expectations and things will develop more naturally. No, it doesn’t mean sit at home and jerk off for the rest of your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:32 AM
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You are trying too hard and you have too many expectations. Just relax. Stop going out to get laid or to talk to women or to get numbers. They can smell it on you from a mile away and desperation is just tangible. I was with two friends the other night at a bar just shooting the shit, laughing having a blast and two girls approached us. And no, they are not going to approach the weird guy sitting in the corner going over routines in his head. Stop having expectations of anything going anywhere a…
/r/seduction29/01/25 07:32 PM
1

Thought you said that they are depressed BECAUSE they don’t have friends or romantic interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:45 PM
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You got it backwards. People are depressed and antisocial for whatever reasons (they think negatively about themselves and others) and that drives other people away. Have you ever met someone who constantly complain and is negative, yet thinks that other people don’t like them? Do you like to hang out with this person or do you stay away from them as far as possible because their negativity is such a downer?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:31 PM
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Yes but yes but yes but
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:23 PM
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Which is precisely the advice I try to give “lonely” guys. Learn to enjoy your freedom, learn to enjoy life and do what you want, instead of moping around about how lonely and miserable you are without a woman and lo and behold, women might actually become interested in dating you, because an emotionally independent guy who lives a life he loves is infinitely more attractive than a self isolating loser looking for a female savior.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:07 PM
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You are just not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:05 PM
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You should tell them stuff like “me love you long time” and “isn’t true that Asian girls have tight pussies?” They love that!
/r/seduction29/01/25 11:13 AM
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lol, she told you she only sees you as a friend and you told her I don’t wanna be friends and you still chased that pussy like it’s made of diamonds.
/r/seduction29/01/25 11:12 AM
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I guess it’s Opposite Day at PPD again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:08 AM
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I’m sorry but you are NOT getting it. And neither are the other thousand guys who tend to respond to my comments about this topic telling me how wrong I am. Firstly, the advice to focus on your male relationships and have a purpose in life doesn’t mean that you should become a monk, cut off your penis, and never talk to another woman ever. I know that’s how YOU interpret this advice, but that’s not what the advice means. You assume this is what it means because you are projecting your fears and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:06 AM
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The two most commonly hated pieces of BP advice are actually profoundly brilliant: “Just be yourself” and “you will find love when you least expect it/aren’t looking for it”. The problem here isn’t that the advice is correct and that it works, it’s just not very prescriptive for guys who are struggling. Of course being yourself is the best way to be, but it means you have to be comfortable with who you are. And no, being an awkward, specially regarded weirdo isn’t who you really are. That’s the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:52 AM
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There not only isn’t a gender war, there cannot possibly be a gender war otherwise our species wouldn’t have survived for over 300,000 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:43 AM
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Or…just hear me out, women evolved to follow the lead of a man who knows that he is doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:38 AM
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I guess that’s what they use it for, but it’s in a “pick me pick me” kind of way. Trying to make those perfectly inoffensive profiles that are so boring and lame that a girl has. Nothing to hang her hat on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:36 PM
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lol Slavic girls don’t even want to go out on a date. They want to get to the fucking part.
/r/seduction28/01/25 05:42 PM
1

Nobody cares if you can or can’t attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:55 PM
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I don’t know how to tell you this, but you are currently residing in the woman’s natural frame, hence why none of this works for you or feels natural and why you end up unhappy (no pootany for you) and she ends up unhappy because she just met another lame guy wasting her time. The entire problem is contained in your post’s title “how to keep HER interested and responding…”. In other words, you are in the chasing frame. In the “I’m a candidate provider trying to impress her and keep her intereste…
/r/seduction28/01/25 03:39 PM
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I don’t really understand that point you are trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:58 PM
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What is difficult? Being lesser?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:42 PM
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We gave you the right to drive cars? How did that turn out?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:41 PM
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You are a really nice guy. You will make such a great husband one day, but I’m kind of broken and have daddy issues and don’t really deserve you. So I will go and fuck my drug dealer instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:29 PM
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I couldn’t agree less with your premise. There no lesser or superior human beings. You are simply buying into a manufactured value system that rates people conditionally. It’s your personal value system that you NEED a woman in order to be complete and that if you don’t, it means that you are a LESSER human being. Or perhaps your argument is that men are lesser to begin with. While I get the sentiment, again, to me it is simply a manner of social conditioning that you have bought into and consid…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:27 PM
1

So how many times do you have to hit your head in a brick wall to figure out that’s what causes your head to hurt?
/r/seduction28/01/25 11:01 AM
1

So many mistakes, oy vey.
/r/seduction28/01/25 10:59 AM
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I can’t believe that you guys still believe that women are the prize. lol. In this whole mating and dating thing, the man is so obviously the prize. The inconvenient truth is that men don’t need women. Men can be self sufficient fighter units and do fine just by themselves. Even the so called male loneliness epidemic is a testament to the resilience of the male species. The problem is of course, that men tell themselves they can’t be happy without women. Women on the other hand, biologically and…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:49 AM
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Sure, but not in the needy, approval seeking way most men use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:28 AM
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Understand that the fact that you are on a dating app is already making you less attractive, cause it implies you are looking. Guys who are looking, wanting, etc. do so because they are lacking. You only want things you lack. So if you lack satisfying relationships with women, it makes you a guy who can’t get bitches, which means you are not desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:35 AM
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Guess what? I didn’t tell my wife about every single woman I fucked. As a matter of fact, I haven’t told her about any women I’ve fucked. Am I an asshole? Maybe I should have described in vivid detail how every vagina I’ve had smelled and looked like? You tell me!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:30 AM
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Well, you say you are not emotional over invested but you got excited because she touched your leg? And you keep texting god knows what after you already set up time to hook up? Why? Because you don’t want her to forget about you? Because you are worried she will flake? Because you like the reassurance that she is still interested? See, all of this behavior is driven by insecurity and lack of confidence. What if you just set up time for her to come to yours to hook up and you went on to do other…
/r/seduction27/01/25 09:50 PM
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Well, understand that the default paradigm on western society is “man chases woman, woman chooses”. Wouldn’t you agree? Isn’t that the message you get from movies, TV shows, songs wailing about “I can’t live without you baby” and “I will go to the end of the world for you, baby”? It is what we come to expect and accept as normal. But have you noticed how neither men or women seem to be happy with this model of relationships? Men wail about high standards, hot and cold women, having to work so ha…
/r/seduction27/01/25 08:45 PM
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Women often don’t know what they want. But they are no different than men, who, if asked, what exactly do you want from a woman will say: “I like a nice girl, with long hair, but short hair is okay too.”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:09 PM
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You are not going to like my advice, because my advice is the exact opposite of what you want, which is to “get” this specific woman. I can diagnose your problem and offer a remedy that won’t get you the outcome you want, but will set you straight. The question is do you want to go that route, or do you want to continue chasing waterfalls?
/r/seduction27/01/25 07:16 PM
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Keep chasing my man. You haven’t embarrassed yourself nearly enough to actually learn a lesson.
/r/seduction27/01/25 07:05 PM
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Well, this makes total sense to me. First and foremost, women seem to want a strong man. What does this mean? To me, a strong man means a man who knows where he is going and he is going places. He is not sitting around waiting for a woman to rescue him from his miserable existence of loneliness. He is on the road of life going forward. A lot of criminals are actually very ambitious and focused on their objectives. They fit the above model of a man who knows what he wants and where he is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:37 PM
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Let’s see. A virgin who does everything except actually try to get laid. You want to get experience but never go out, drink or have fun of any kind. Okay. I think there is a word for it: “self-sabotage”? Something like that. If I were you, I’d do this. Come Friday, take a long nap after work in the evening. Wake up at midnight, drink a Red Bull, shower, put on cologne, your nice clothes and go out to a club or bar an hour before closing time. At the bars you will likely see drunk guys who have b…
/r/seduction27/01/25 10:45 AM
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You could go a couple of different ways with this. You could say: “That’s a weird thing to say, and kind of presumptuous, as if I a white guy can only be attracted to someone because of a racial fetish. Don’t often go around and judge people like that?.” This will put her on the spot and turn the tables on her. The other way is to say: “Actually, quite the opposite. I find Asian women are into me and often fetishize me. Do you know how difficult it is to be constantly treated like a piece of mea…
/r/seduction27/01/25 10:35 AM
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You invited her over false pretense. Was there any flirting or eye contact prior to all of this happening? I mean, a woman won’t go to your apartment if she isn’t hoping for more, but still.
/r/seduction27/01/25 02:57 AM
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I can’t think of anything more pathetic than a guy stalking girls in a mall all day.
/r/seduction27/01/25 02:56 AM
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Omg anyone who mentions Nora Vincent results into a permanent block by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:56 AM
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I mean you can use anything as an excuse to not live your life to the fullest.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:42 PM
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Social anxiety is easy to overcome. Just got to be committed to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 10:41 PM
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Well, that’s weird. You are a man, so by your logic you must not like yourself very much. How’s that working out for ya?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:57 PM
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Omg I swear women are retarded. You are so afraid of showing any interest, that you’d rather lock yourself in your room and never come out.
/r/seduction26/01/25 08:55 PM
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I think it’s a sign of deeper psychological problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:52 PM
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Thoughts are the cause of emotions and negative thoughts are the cause of negative emotions. Well, it’s not simply thought. It’s how much you believe in them too. If you told yourself “the sun will not rise tomorrow”, you will likely not feel panicky and depressed that the world will end because most of us know for sure the sun will in fact come up tomorrow. It’s hard to actually believe that it may not. But take another thought: “I’m a loser who will forever be alone”. Many people, many of whom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:17 PM
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Like everyone is literally telling you what to do about it and all the responses: “yes but here is why it doesn’t work…” I mean what the fuck more do you want from us? You said neediness and desperation CAN be unattractive. But that’s not true. They ALWAYS ARE unattractive. Being desperate and needy literally forces people to reject you. Don’t want to be needy and desperate? Develop other parts of your life, stop telling yourself women are the ONLY thing that can make you happy. They are not. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:52 PM
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If a man can’t maintain normal, male friendships, this is just another sign of how emotionally unequipped he is to maintain a romantic relationship. Guys can try and separate the two all they want, but unlike men who are attracted to literal body parts, women tend to look at the whole picture. And if they sense a guy who is a loner, who has no desire or ability to even have male friends and enjoy his life, she is getting but a glimpse into what life will be with such a man. And it’s not pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:44 PM
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Completely untrue. Emotions are the result of how you think. You have a million unconscious thought processes that have been running in your brain for years. You just aren’t aware of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:35 PM
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That’s true. So why would anyone need a desperate guy hungry for approval and sex? He is the exact opposite of scarce. He is always available.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:33 PM
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Precisely! You put it so eloquently. But I also want to elaborate on another key point that PPD men tend to completely overlook. A man who desperately seeks the validation of women, who believes he can ONLY be happy if he has a specific type of validation (relationship/romance), will have extreme difficulty getting both female approval and said relationship. This is the key ingredient that guys always overlook. In their desperation and scarcity mentality, they make themselves extremely unattract…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 06:31 PM
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Very good post. I wrote something similar a few weeks ago. One of my favorite psychotherapists, Dr David Burns created what he calls the Interpersonal Downward Arrow technique for uncovering interpersonal issues. The theory behind it is that we create our interpersonal reality by creating a movie script in our heads. Just like any screenplay, there are people who play a certain role and those roles have very predictable behaviors. The Villain will act a certain way and the Hero will react to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:00 PM
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That is NOT his point at all. Not even close. But ironically, the nature of your response is exactly what OP is talking about….assuming right off the bat that everyone is out to get you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:48 PM
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Heros don’t always wear capes!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 03:26 PM
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Then you are in luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 07:29 AM
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Because it enhances your happiness. Why would you enter a relationship just because you need one and not because you actually like the person and have a genuine connection?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 02:03 AM
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Being an immature and dysfunctional asshole is a compliment. The question is, do they let you snort coke out of the assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 12:42 AM
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You are focused on the wrong thing. You are focused on how to get her to like you more, open up, to do what you want her to do. You need to stop that. You need to focus on what you want. Is this the type of relationship you want. Is this how you want to be treated by women. Are you enjoying yourself or are you spending more time worried why she’s not doing more. When a man focuses on what he wants, he stops caring about how to please the woman and begins to care only about how to please himself.…
/r/seduction26/01/25 12:10 AM
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Positive things to mention about what? What’s been happening to men and women lately? I don’t think there is much positives happening. Everything is designed to keep us apart and to keep us unhappy, because unhappy people are easy to control. We get placated with medication, spending, consuming, working. If a man got a girlfriend and had great sex with her, he wouldn’t care to work very hard and out earn everyone else. A woman who had a great guy and had great and fulfilling sex, wouldn’t be spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:55 PM
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I can’t wake up one day and decide to go to the museum? I just can’t with you guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:44 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 07:37 PM
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Exactamundo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:12 PM
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Adopt the standard woman frame: “You have to prove to me that you are good enough to even talk to me” and it will all be good.
/r/seduction25/01/25 04:48 PM
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Yet here you are making threads about women having g you by the balls. Good job!👏
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:47 PM
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That’s because there has been a concerted effort in the past 20-25 years or so to turn men into women and women into men. And no, I don’t mean making people trans and all that. I literally mean, men are shamed for being men and having masculine traits and are told they need to be more like women - insecure, needy, always seeking validation and attention, obsessed with their looks, skincare, seeking cosmetic procedures, passive, indecisive, followers, more sensitive, more vulnerable. And that it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:38 PM
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Stop looking to women to fulfill your life and make you happy. They cannot make you happy. Stop seeking relationships and sex as a cure for your lame ass life and depression. A man who cannot secure his own happiness and fulfillment in life and looks to women to do that for him, will never have a successful relationship. He will also barely have any dating success because women are turned off by such neediness. Go live your life well and find happiness and fulfillment in doing things, not chasin…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:31 PM
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I could be a father of many of the posters on here. Yes, I’m old. Not really, but to them I’m old. But apparently my experience and advice is completely invalid because I didn’t grow up in the age of dating apps and social media. Somehow they claim that women evolved into a completely new species over the course of 15 years or so to be completely unattracted to men with the exception of 0.00000001% of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 02:42 AM
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Nope
/r/seduction25/01/25 12:38 AM
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Contrary to popular belief, success with women has very little to do with your relationship with women and almost everything to do with your relationship with yourself. You are focusing on an external solution to an internal problem. Why do many guys actually happier when they finally get a girlfriend? It’s actually not the girlfriend herself that made them happy, because often a relationship introduces other headaches and complexities in your life. It’s just that they finally achieved something…
/r/seduction24/01/25 10:33 PM
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What the RealWoujo said is exactly the problem and what I experienced a lot. I actually used to pride myself about making out with a girl within the first 15 minutes of the date, holding hands, etc. But then I never heard from them again. It was baffling. Until I figured out I was showing up to the date with some preconceived notion or expectation that I have to move as quick as possible and get to the sex fast. In other words, the missing ingredient is that women actually want to work for your …
/r/seduction24/01/25 10:24 PM
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This is exactly the problem and what I experienced a lot. I actually used to pride myself about making out with a girl within the first 15 minutes of the date, holding hands, etc. But then I never heard from them again. It was baffling. Until I figured out I was showing up to the date with some preconceived notion or expectation that I have to move as quick as possible and get to the sex fast. In other words, the missing ingredient is that women actually want to work for your interest. When a wo…
/r/seduction24/01/25 10:23 PM
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🥲
/r/seduction24/01/25 10:14 PM
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Here are a few pointers. If you go out for the purpose of trying to pick up women, you will never succeed. Why? Many reasons, but mostly it just comes across as needy and creepy and that gives women the ick. I live in a touristy area of NYC and see wannabe pickup artists loitering around and trying to talk to girls. I see them coming from a mile away, so I can only imagine women see them from five miles away. It’s just weird, don’t do it this way. It’s best to go about your day and when you see …
/r/seduction24/01/25 10:14 PM
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When you are more reserved and pulling back, but when it’s done without loss of self esteem (meaning you don’t stay quiet or unavailable because you are shut anxious and insecure or butthurt), it will actually attract women. Men who are pushy and overpursuers are not look on kindly.
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:44 PM
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All of these are just a rephrasing of “I’m an excuser who pretends to be a big deal, but is secretly really wanting your approval”. If you want the one self talk track that will make you more attractive than anything else, use this: “I’m way too hot for these bitches, they’d be lucky if I even acknowledge them”. Another one that works very well too is: “I am so in love with myself and my life is fucking amazing as it is.”
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:43 PM
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If you act guilty, you will appear guilty, even if you are not.
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:39 PM
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Women are NOT the chooser by default. But it’s the power most men give away to them.
/r/seduction24/01/25 09:38 PM
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That wasn’t my point. He said the only solution to loneliness is getting a girlfriend. Someone asked him, if he is unhappy with his life and male relationships, how does he know that a gf will make him happy. He replied that it is just something that he knows intuitively without needing any evidence. And I told him, how would this explain all the men who are unhappy with their relationships if his argument was that a relationship guarantees happiness and lack of loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 08:24 PM
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Well, I never said about anything looks or having opinions that she’s gonna like. There were your additions. As long as the man looks like he meant to look like that, that’s enough. And appreciating and liking women, assumes that you won’t have any misogynistic or offensive opinions about them, but that certainly doesn’t mean that you should seek to please every woman. Other than that, I don’t see why these are so hard to achieve.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:19 PM
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Really? So men don’t cheat, divorce their wives, complain about them, dump girlfriends? I don’t know if you are for really, buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:02 PM
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The bar is in hell. There are three things required for a woman to feel aroused by a man: He must like and respect himself and not bend to her whims (or anyone else’s) He must feel comfortable to lead and make decisions when it comes to the relationship He must like women and have no resentment or anger towards them. Or, at the very least, he must be very good at appearing like he has those qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 07:02 PM
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Seems like a very untested theory then. What happens if you find someone who feels lonely and unhappy even though they are in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:55 PM
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Because the issue ain’t loneliness. The issue they are having is that they BELIEVE that the ONLY way to be happy is to have a partner. Or looking at it from another perspective: the issue is FEAR of being SINGLE. The most absolutely ironic thing about all of this is that if you are afraid of being single and desperately look for a companion, there is no more of a sure way to actually repel women. They literally are forced to reject you if you chase them. Why is that so? I think people are attrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:54 PM
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How would you know if you’ve never had a GF?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:42 PM
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Of course it’s bullshit. Single people are single for a reason. Think about it. Otherwise they would be in a relationship. It’s like a person who was laid off or is unemployed. You always have to think: was it really the company, why did they lay him off and not another person? Why haven’t they found a job yet if they are such a good employee? Fair or not, these are normal thoughts to have. And yes, these would apply to both of these scenarios. If a guy hasn’t been successful in dating, it would…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:07 PM
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Did you want me to have an argument with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:45 PM
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There is a difference. When men complain it is because they can’t get ANY women. They are not saying “I have tons of women interested in me, but they are all trash”. They say “I can’t get laid with a fistful of dollars in a Tijuana whorehouse”. While for most women it’s different. They say they have plenty of suitors and takers. They just don’t find them quality enough. It’s a very very different problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:00 PM
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This is an interesting hypothesis. Not as simple as it seems. Ok the “asshole”. You said inner asshole, but is the asshole actually inside of you, or is it on the outside? After all, the asshole is the entry way to the insides, the inner body. So again the question is, is the asshole consider something on the outside of your body or on the inside of your body? Or is a weird in between?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:58 PM
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Basically I sit on my couch watching TV and drinking beer. A girl that looks like a porn star texts me and says “Hey baby, can I come over?” and I say “sure, bring some food”. She comes over, we have sex, we eat and she goes home. Perfect dating scenario!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:56 PM
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I mean you are right. I’m not really hearing you and understating you and that’s my flaw. It hurts me very much that sometimes I lack empathy to understand what others might be going through and I often have a very myopic view of things, limited to my own experiences. I sincerely wish you the best est in your journey to finding a successful and healthy relationship with a woman who loves you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:47 PM
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Ugh, you almost had it and then you lost it. Let’s take your claim that because women can be financially successful nowadays they don’t need men anymore and therefore their sexual attraction mechanism is malfunctioning or rendered obsolete. Well, with modern medicine, pretty much every pregnancy is guaranteed to result in a healthy baby that survives. So shouldn’t those medical advances render the male attraction mechanism obsolete? Why are men still attracted to young women with big breasts and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:19 PM
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For one, they don’t present themselves as boyfriend potential. They don’t try to be overly nice, proper and respectful, like men are told to be. Not saying you shouldn’t treat her like a lady, but do away with the pretense of trying to be who you think she wants you to be. Just drop the act. Second, stop giving a fuck if you go to bed with her or not. It’s only when a man gets super attached to the idea that he has to have sex, that he fucks up. But if you are willing and prepared to lose her, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:39 AM
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All you need to do is say: “let’s go out. I know just the place. Pick you up at 8?”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:36 AM
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I get it; but it’s not confidence and definitely not “more” of it. Big ego? Maybe, but who cares about a big ego on a woman. If that intimidates you, you are getting caught up in her manipulating you. You need to become immune to that BS and be able to see through the facade and laugh at it. Think of it like seeing a Chihuahua that’s foaming at mouth barking at you, thinking it’s scary. But you immediately see through it and laugh. Let me tell you something. Men mistake women being standoffish f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:35 AM
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Because you are still buying into the concept of dating. The concept of dating assumes that the man is chasing the woman (and paying to get her approval). I’m not saying change the rules. I’m saying make your own rules. You want to still date? Here is a date idea. Take a girl on a first date to a strip club. See how she behaves around naked women. See if she likes what she sees and gets turned on. Make your own rules. You screen them for what you want. If you want to screen them for whether they…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:30 AM
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If you think women are confident, I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. Look around all these women you think are so confident. What are they doing all day? Applying make up, buying tight and revealing clothes. Instagram influencers constantly posting content and getting butt hurt over some rando’s comment that makes fun of them. Is this the behavior of a confident person who doesn’t care what others think of them? Bro, if they are so confident and the prize, women wouldn’t need constant atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:27 AM
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You didn’t hear me! Refuse to date at all. Don’t meet women one on one on a date. Either get them out to a place you are going to be at anyway, like a happy hour or some outing, or just tell them to come over with a bottle of wine. You are still dating, just being cheap. Make your own rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:23 AM
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You are misunderstanding what’s going on. Women are as much victims of social brainwashing as men are. It is simply not possible that human beings survived and thrived as a species for hundreds of thousands if not millions of years. Many guys here think in terms of mere decades, at most centuries when they talk about gender relations, such as apps changing the dating game, feminism, blah blah blah. In the grand scheme of human evolution, these are but a blink of an eye. We managed to reproduce s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:22 AM
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You are still worried about the approval of women. If you don’t want to pay on a first date, then don’t date. Just hook up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:44 AM
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Men are told that they have to be more like women and women are told they have to be more like men. While it easy to place the blame on women, let’s be honest, do they sound happy with the current dating situation themselves? Don’t men say “I’m so lonely because women’s standards are so high” and women are saying “where are all the real men?”. It may sound like it’s all their fault, but if they have all the power and are so perfect, why aren’t they happy? Because they are getting just as brainwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:43 AM
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It’s funny that all the women agree with me, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 10:32 AM
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It’s so funny to me, because at the end of the day we create our interpersonal reality. When a woman tells you she wants to wait, you need to really hear what she is telling you. She’s not telling you “you are unworthy, unattractive, gross” or whatever other insecurity you might have that you are projecting on her. She is simply telling you “I like you and don’t want to move to fast and come across like a slut and have you lose respect for me”. And the worst thing you can do is pout and get piss…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 01:31 AM
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It’s not your shortness or average looks that are stopping you. It’s you being ASHAMED of them that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:52 PM
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Well, we men are conditioned to believe that women are attracted to the things society values, such as being athletic, tall, having money, being socially proofed, etc. But this is a bit of an illusion. What actually happens is that a guy grows up believing he is not good enough (part of societal brainwashing is to instill a sense of inadequacy in us), but at the same time he is given the solution - work hard, achieve something spectacular and this will make you attractive to women. So when a guy…
/r/seduction23/01/25 10:42 PM
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Accusing them of hitting on me is my favorite flirting technique.
/r/seduction23/01/25 09:48 PM
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Very good question actually! Not many people are brave enough to ask for help on this. Flirting is a mix of playful confidence, humor with sexual or romantic innuendo, delivered in a light-hearted and slightly joking manner. The only way that flirting works though, is if you flirt without any expectations for reciprocation or a specific outcome. Any flirting needs to be delivered without any attachment to the outcome, such as expecting or even feeling entitled to a similar response or flirtation…
/r/seduction23/01/25 09:23 PM
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I would argue that that’s a bunch of bull crap. Value provided according to whom? How is that measured and who decides it? While it is true that society values men who contribute a lot to society, like star athletes, actors, rockstars, company CEOs, etc., remember that this is wholly manufactured. Take as an example an NFL player. In the US he will likely be celebrated and treated like a prince anywhere he goes. Move that same guy to Europe or Asia, and he will immediately be pegged as just anot…
/r/seduction23/01/25 08:50 PM
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If nobody is approaching women how could 50% of them be getting dates in the wild? Do you have the evidence to back up these claims? But otherwise, while you are almost on track, you kind of have it wrong. Women only have the PERCEPTION if having an easier time dating. The reality is it’s infinitely easier for me to find a woman that I am sexually attracted to who meets my criteria for getting aroused. I need her to be good looking enough (subjective) and sufficiently not annoying. Women have a …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 05:36 PM
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Meaning you want to meet them at right time of their monthly cycle when they are most likely to be on the hunt for SPERM aka ovulation.
/r/seduction23/01/25 04:29 PM
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Hold on, what’s the context here? You could be walking up to random women and saying “can I get your number” or you could be matching with women on apps and asking for their number? What’s the context and what’s the interaction that lead to this?
/r/seduction23/01/25 04:28 PM
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When are they going to release a guide for lazy, ugly, socially retarded men who don’t want to leave the house.
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:17 PM
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That will go as well as a woman who demands an expensive dinner as a first date in her profile. It’s not that I haven’t treated women well on a first date before, but the sheer entitlement and gall to do this is a huge turn off. What’s the real problem here? You are afraid women will cheat you out of fucking you on the first date? It’s okay to express what you want and I’ve told many women that I’m not in the headspace for anything serious or exclusive and that it that’s what they are looking fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 08:54 AM
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If you really believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 03:20 AM
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Nah that’s not it. I can tell you what it is, but you won’t like it. The biggest problem is you guys are so fucking desperate for female approval. Always trying to desperately be what you think they want you to be (or what they say they want you to be). The very act of trying to hard to gain their approval, actually repels them. You probably don’t even know who the real you is. Is there even a real you or is all one chameleon mask after the other, destined to win the approval of women or to help…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 02:08 AM
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You are completely misinterpreting what is happening. These women don’t WANT to be chased. You are coming across in a needy, wanting way and this is repelling them, which drives them to pull away from you and eventually reject you. And you interpret this pulling away as them wanting a little chase (to be chased). The reality is women love nothing more than to chase the right man. You are just not behaving like the right man, probably because you tell yourself you need them, you lack something in…
/r/seduction23/01/25 01:58 AM
1

See that’s you letting her lead. Hey what are you looking for? What kind of guys do you date? These are loser questions meant to get her to say what she wants first, so you can adjust yourself to what she wants.
/r/seduction23/01/25 12:23 AM
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There is only one that’s worked for me: “I’m way hotter than these girls, they’d be lucky if I even acknowledged their existence”.
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:47 PM
1

Just as I thought. It’s not what you say, it’s your vibe. And your vibe is of a needy pursuer, who can’t even say what he desires without making excuses like “how do you feel about meeting me for a coffee”. Don’t have the balls to ask her out properly!
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:46 PM
1

Stop trying to build relationships over text.
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:44 PM
1

What kind of excuser thing was that? Would you like to go on a date someday? wtf? And you are asking if it is okay to ask her out after a week of chatting? What kind of excuser are you? Why are you making excuses for your desires? Be a man and tell her, let’s go out this Thursday or Friday night. I know just the place. Give her a couple of options. If she turns you down and doesn’t offer an alternative, next her. Stop being an excuser.
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:43 PM
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The only compliments you should give women are about her great taste in men (you), and about how well she is pursuing you/trying to seduce you.
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:41 PM
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Well by the sound of it it seems like you are a jackass who is interrupting women and trying too hard to force some sort of a pushy, weird, pick up method. Liking it to a door to door salesman was the final nail in your coffin. Understand that the pick up artist model of the world is 100% completely wrong. It is simply the other side of the coin of the same problem that average, passive guys have. The coin is neediness, chasing after women, trying to convince them to like you, give you a chance,…
/r/seduction22/01/25 11:39 PM
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No it doesn’t. I’m tall and good looking and didn’t work for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:53 PM
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I guess that’s an answer to my question. But yeah: male friends do that for each other. If I called you at 2AM and said “I’m drunk I need a ride from the club, or I need money”, you bet your ass I will help a friend out. Are you going to do that for a male friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:43 PM
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It’s a common trope around these parts and black pill subs to say stuff like “I’d like to see how far a sense of humor/confidence/being social will work for a 5’ balding Indian janitor. I’m just sarcastically making fun of that trope.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:38 PM
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Question - answer honestly. If you really want to be my friend, would you introduce me to your single girlfriends so I can fuck them? Because I would certainly do that for my male friends if I knew any single girls. Or would that be off the table because the “friendship” is on your terms and only what you want it to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:36 PM
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Oh, I absolutely agree! If I was a 20 something year old now, I would probably be scared shitless to approach. But I’m double that age and not susceptible to social media brainwashing. Still, I think young men should focus on socializing and connecting with women and not constantly chase them for dates and sex, which never works anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:01 PM
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Yes but yes but yes but
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:21 PM
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lol, I met a ton of girlfriends and my now wife cold approaching. Total strangers. Never seen them before in my life. But than I’m me and no other men do what I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:09 AM
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I don’t even think it’s that bleak. To be honest; most guys who have poor dating lives, and I’m including my past self in this category when I was in my early 20s, simply don’t socialize enough. They self isolate way too much and indoctrinate themselves online in various black pill and even incel spaces. Getting out, socializing without expectations is the only cure for this. It’s the only cure for awkwardness, social retardation and loneliness. But of course, it’s much easier to just stay home,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:08 AM
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They killed it because men do it in a very creepy and lame way. I see losers trying to talk to girls “hey shawty, can I please talk to you? You sooooo beautiful shawty” or those wanna be pick up artists that loiter around parks looking for some unsuspecting girl sitting by herself to accost her with whatever pick up line they learned that week like “hey I just saw you from over there and would have kicked myself if I didn’t come over and say hi”. And when that doesn’t work, they loiter aimlessly…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:03 AM
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I love how you guys always have to qualify that the guy who is considered creepy is awkward, socially retarded, extremely autistic, 4’5” balding Indian janitor.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:00 AM
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Start with smile and hello practice.
/r/seduction22/01/25 10:43 AM
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Oh boy. This is something that took me a while to get through my thick skull. The problem is from the very beginning you set this up as you chasing her. Constantly pushing, constantly trying to hold her hand, constantly trying hard to get her interested. I used to pride myself on being able to make out with a girl within 15 mins of the first date and then start holding hands, etc. But then after what I thought was an amazing date, I never heard back from them. It baffled me. Eventually I figured…
/r/seduction22/01/25 10:42 AM
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Always meet first in a public place. Watch out for any suspicious tattoos (gang tattoos etc), hood talk or behavior (does she sound like she from the hood). At your place, do not leave expensive items that are easy to steal. Never leave her out of your sight. Of course always have rubbers, use your own, try to not use hers.
/r/seduction22/01/25 10:30 AM
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I mean it’s not manifesting exactly. As you change your inner dialogue, it will reflect on your outer vibe and body language. I know it sounds reductive and simple, but the secret to sex appeal is to truly believe you are hot and you know it.
/r/seduction22/01/25 10:27 AM
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Make eye contact and when you do get up and approach her without breaking eye contact. If she keeps it that long; she wants to fuck you anyway, so just behave as if you two just mentally fucked already and now it’s the morning after and you are saying good morning to each other.
/r/seduction22/01/25 02:16 AM
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I can’t think of anything more needy than trying hard to create sexual tension or even interest. Worry about yourself. If you don’t feel a sexual spark why the fuck do you want them? You have scarcity mentality. Figure out what you want and commit to pursuing your pleasure only. Worry about pleasing yourself and women will start to worry about pleasing you.
/r/seduction22/01/25 02:13 AM
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You are looking at this the wrong way bro, like a whiney little bitch. All of this you wrote means you are the one calling the shots. You do whatever the fuck your want to do on your own terms. You are just stuck in “I need female approval” land and have been stuck there for way too long.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 02:08 AM
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Just keep arranging dates and let them worry about winning you over. You are worried about the wrong thing, about what they are thinking.
/r/seduction22/01/25 02:06 AM
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Let her worry about keeping you interested. You still live in “I need female approval” land.
/r/seduction22/01/25 02:00 AM
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What exactly do you think you will achieve by building a relationship over text?
/r/seduction22/01/25 01:59 AM
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lol for sure, for sure.
/r/seduction22/01/25 01:57 AM
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Because you are stuck in loser pursuer mode.
/r/seduction22/01/25 01:42 AM
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Think about every time a woman is dry and short with you, do you lose interest or do you tell yourself “omg, I’m losing her interest, I have to do something to impress her and get her interest back”. Does it make you chase less or more? What women do to us works on them as well. Stop concerning yourself with pleasing them and doing what you think they want you to do. Do whatever the fuck you want to do without fear of losing them and they will follow.
/r/seduction22/01/25 01:41 AM
2

You are a lover of boys?
/r/seduction22/01/25 01:39 AM
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The way you described yourself tells me you are trying really hard to be what you think women want you to be. Can’t blame you because that’s the usual narrative - be nice, good looking, have a job, be clean, blah blah blah. The reason women don’t want you after the first date is that they feel you are trying too hard to get them or please them. Focus on what you want. What pleases you. Stop worrying about if a woman will flake. She should be the one worried you’d flake on her. Next time you set …
/r/seduction22/01/25 01:38 AM
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She should be the one worried what to text you between dates. Stop giving a fuck about losing them. If you do, that’s a sign that you don’t got no bitches.
/r/seduction22/01/25 01:34 AM
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Oh completely agree! But a guy who does this will still feel taken advantage of when he ends up getting LJBFed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:32 AM
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In my offer the guy offers to take her out on a date. She doesn’t demand or expect anything. She simply agrees, although she understands that the implication is he will want to sleep with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:42 PM
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You don’t think women can be manipulative bitches and use men while pretending to be intersex? I got a bridge to sell you in brooklyn.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 11:08 PM
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Big mistake. She’s forcing you into your frame and she is the one leading. Tell her: don’t worry, the first date is 30 mins and there is no kissing. We will pretty much know within the first 10-15 mins if we click and if we don’t, there is no reason to subject ourselves to some drawn out dinner date.
/r/seduction21/01/25 06:46 PM
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Mystery = being unavailable. You posting multiple memes every day = being too available AND trying too hard.
/r/seduction21/01/25 06:44 PM
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It’s because once you open your mouth they see that you are an excuser. The next time it happens, start thinking along these lines: “of course this girl wants to fuck me, I’m the hottest guy she’s seen. I guess I will make her the luckiest girl alive and go make her day by talking to her.” Practice this internal dialog every time you get an IOI and try approaching again.
/r/seduction21/01/25 06:43 PM
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Whaaaaaaaat! I was told that the only way to get a woman is to pursue her relentlessly and be super pushy for sex st every opportunity!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:35 PM
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Women don’t want to be bothered. They want to be hot AND bothered by the right man. You just need to be the right guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:10 PM
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Women say the same about guys who ask them out for dinner. “I didn’t force him to spend $400 on dinner and champagne, it was his choice. I never promised I’d give him the pus”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:05 PM
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Let me explain from a man’s perspective. Think of a guy who takes a girl out to a lavish dinner, then to a Broadway show. Then he drives her back to her place in a car he rented to impress her. And as he walks her to her door, he stops and leans over to kiss her, only for her to say “oh, hey, hold on. I only like you as a friend!” Ouch! That would be a total gut punch! The guy went out of his way and gave her something of value only to end up getting nothing in return. Women often operate simila…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:03 PM
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I got 99 problems, but the b….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:15 AM
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Remember that for many types of thoughts, we’ve been practicing them for so long that they become almost like muscle memory. A thought doesn’t have to be conscious for it to affect you emotionally. But if you took an event that upset you in some way and if you think back to what thoughts you were thinking at time, even if you had to kinda guess, you’d get a pretty good idea of what triggered the negative emotion. Take for example, social anxiety. A very common affliction that most people have fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:23 PM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:40 PM
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Feelings or emotions are our reactions or responses to something. Thoughts are the cognitive process that we go through to process a situation. For example, anger is an emotion. We know what anger feels like. You are angry. But a thought that might trigger anger is: women are always going to reject me because they think I’m so ugly, so screw them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:40 PM
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Feelings are not instinctual. You literally can’t detect the speed of the automatic thoughts that trigger them hence why you think feelings are instinctual and come out of nowhere. Yes, the death of a loved one will trigger feelings of sadness. Yet, people die everyday and you do not feel sad about them. Why? Because you don’t have any connection to them and do not think of them as close. If you had an abusive parent who you hated, chances are you will feel no sadness if they died. And yes, at t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:24 PM
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Case in point 👆
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:39 PM
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Getting a man and keeping a man are two very different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:28 PM
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I’d like to see a woman try that with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:27 PM
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Let me tell you something. Women want the same thing that guys want. They want to have fun and not have it cost them anything, like their reputation, being judged or being shamed for it. You have no idea how women behave when they don’t think anyone is looking or when they consider you a safe, non judgmental guy. Of course women want to hook up with players. Why would they hook up with a loser nice guy instead of the guy who knows his way around a vagina? Duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 07:26 PM
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That’s not how things work. Women always say they want a guy who wants a serious, committed, long term relationship with them before he’s even met them, but in reality they run from such guys as if they had the plague.
/r/seduction20/01/25 07:23 PM
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Oy vey. The number one reason why men fail with women is neediness. They meet someone and they start thinking about kids and a future with this woman and they are ready to jump with both feet in something serious. The guy claims that he is selective, yet he spend a total of 7 hours with her, although the smart thing would have been to have a quick date over drinks or even at the art gallery to take her temperature and see if she is a good prospect to become a pre-candidate to apply for the candi…
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:20 PM
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I have to say, your OF link definitely “elevated my masculinity”.
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:11 PM
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I think he was agreeing with you.
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:10 PM
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Listen to yourself. How long should I wait for a girl to reply to me? Should I check in to confirm the date so she doesn’t flake on me? How do I check that she’s still interested? How do I find out what’s her favorite food so I can take out on a date to a restaurant she will enjoy? all of this is loser, needy behavior. Women should be the ones waiting around for you to text them or call them. They should be ones worried if you will flake on a date. They should be the one worried if the food they…
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:09 PM
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He literally did everything wrong.
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:03 PM
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Okay; let me translate: “I’m not ready for a relationship right now” = I’m not attracted to you “There wasn’t a spark” = Im not attracted to you “Let’s stay friends” = I’m not attracted to you and please, please, don’t respond that you’d like to stay friends with me, please take the hint and just go away Now, you strike me as the kind of person who will not learn their lesson and will absolutely deny that you are the one who caused all of his problems and who caused the woman to reject them. You…
/r/seduction20/01/25 06:01 PM
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Wow, someone has learned a term and wants to use it in every sentence and argument!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 05:40 PM
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Who said anything about pedestals? Again, you can either look at people and relationships as a source of joy and pleasure, or as a means to meet your physical needs (get the peepee wet) or as a source of pain, rejection, unpleasantness, etc. Only the first way offers a path to more successful and pleasant relationships and connections. The second way can work and many people can fake enough interest in the other person to get them to spend the night with you, but long term it is unclear if all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:55 PM
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You sound needy and pushy. When you want to get something from women, they will always reject you. It’s just a law of the universe. I don’t know what else to tell you other than change the reason you go out. Stop going out to hit on girls and pick them up. Stop approaching girls wanting them to like you, approve of yo, give you number etc. Focus on enjoying yourself and having fun. A guy who is enjoying himself is who women want to attach themselves to and not the creepy, weird guy trying too ha…
/r/seduction20/01/25 02:18 PM
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You are getting more and more desperate and creepy dude. Stop it. Just stop it right now. Stop it.
/r/seduction20/01/25 02:16 PM
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Text as little as humanly possible. All texting should be about her coming over to hook up, not about connecting, building rapport, etc.
/r/seduction20/01/25 02:14 PM
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How about we get our heads out of the clouds of abstraction (out of our own asses) and get back down to Earth. How is this helping your romantic/sex life right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:09 PM
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Yes and no. You should have a plan of action if a woman begins pursuing you. And no, you should not be going to bars/clubs trying really hard to get women and always be thinking of next steps. You need to live in the moment and have some structure/purpose to your night out. Don’t go aimlessly wandering around trying to make something happen. Have a couple of places to go to. Maybe start with a bar, hit up a live band/club type of place, then end the night at a lounge or a nightcap party at your …
/r/seduction20/01/25 02:08 PM
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That’s a good point but it is often misunderstood by people. They look at letting go of desire to mean “cut off my balls and never talk to women again”. But that’s not the point of letting go of desire. It means simply stop wanting to get something y out of women, whether it’s approval, validation, attraction, sex. When you give up wanting to get these things and figure out that you can very easily give those things to yourself, then women cease to be the prize/trophy that a man chases and she b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:54 PM
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It’s a complex issue, that’s for sure. You are right that the “let them come to you” is often used as an excuse to hide insecurity and fear. I think many guys conflate “initiating” and “chasing”. I’ve literally had guys say that if you are approaching a woman, you are by default chasing her. And then asking her out on a date is chasing, etc. I think that you can still succeed with the traditional way of approaching and initiating and still be the one who is being pursued. Instead of looking at a…
/r/seduction20/01/25 01:51 PM
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It annoys you women don’t have any balls to approach you, but it doesn’t annoy you that you don’t have any balls to approach them?
/r/seduction20/01/25 01:39 PM
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Who is the arbiter of “value”? The observer? Who determines the observer’s value? A different observer? If a woman sees me and judges that I have “zero value” to her, is her judgment of my value set in stone? Does the universe immediately agree with her? Why if I have zero respect or admiration for this woman and therefore her opinion has zero value to me? Does her judgment of my value still stand? At the end of the day, there are no absolutes in this universe. The only constant is the speed of …
/r/seduction20/01/25 01:37 PM
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The problem isn’t the empirical, universal truth that we are all worthwhile. The problem is always down to how the man FEELS about HIMSELF. If a man feels worthless, women will sense this. I have proven this to myself over and over and over. The only way we can change the FEELING is by changing our THOUGHTS about ourselves. If we have negative thoughts about ourselves AND we believe them to be true, then that’s what needs to be dealt with. Humans having inherent value, while true, doesn’t necess…
/r/seduction20/01/25 01:29 PM
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Excitement and enthusiasm are infectious. When you start liking people, they start liking you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 12:32 PM
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I empathize with your frustration. But there are really only three choices when it comes to this: Do nothing and hope women change Accept the role you play in getting rejected Walk away from women all together Usually 3 is a no go, because people want to connect and value relationships. Choice 1 is the most common and most typical choice. Do nothing, blame the other, attribute malice to them and associate them with pain, rejection and misery. Almost no one chooses 2, because it is really painful…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:57 AM
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E? Ketamine? Amphetamines? What’s your drug of choice?
/r/seduction20/01/25 11:53 AM
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It’s not about benefit of the doubt. It’s about having a positive outlook when it comes to yourself, others and the world. Your thoughts control how you feel and how you behave. And your emotional state and behavior affect others (emotional infection). Take this unpleasant analogy. Have you ever met a dog that has been beaten or abused? Many of them tend to become aggressive and distrustful of anyone, not letting people pet them or show them affection. Their aggression and bearing teeth turns pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:50 AM
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These are actually very good points. It’s swinging from one extreme to the other. When does the pendulum settle though? While it’s fun to look at cause and effect and debate chicken vs egg, if we get down from the clouds of abstraction and into the real world, there are only a few practical pathways towards solving the problem. And one of them is what I wrote about, which is all about deciding whether a man wants to improve his relationships with women. He only has 3 choices: Do nothing and hope…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:41 AM
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That is very correct. They sound miserable and I wouldn’t touch them either a 10ft pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:35 AM
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Perhaps you are right on some abstract societal level about all of this. But on a personal level, it does zero to help a man struggling with connecting with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:34 AM
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You don’t have to pretend you are a model, but I don’t see how calling yourself ugly and unattractive is helpful. But I guess there is no middle ground between Chris Hemsworth and Quasimodo.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:31 AM
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If you are a white man with a full head of hair, the sky is the limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:30 AM
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Good points. I see that the WaW effect is something on a societal level and less so on the individual’s thought process level. Thank you for changing my mind on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:28 AM
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I’ve genuinely never met a romantically unsuccessful man who has tried anything I advocate. As a matter of fact, their responses are akin to yours. A whole lotta “yes buts” and excuses about why it will never work for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:49 AM
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Funny thing about women. They keep making them.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:34 AM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:33 AM
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I was making fun of your post.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:27 AM
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lol, exactly!
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:27 AM
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Women want the same thing as you. To have some fun. They just don’t want to get judged for having said fun, which is what your culture does on steroids compared to the west. Tell them that they can stay a virgin, because with the other two holes they can use to satisfy you, there is no telling if they are a virgin or not.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:25 AM
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Read OP. It’s not about what others think of women and if they defend them. The point is that WeW is overblown as an actual problem for men. Their primary issue is having extremely negative views and expectations about their interactions with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:23 AM
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Okay
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:22 AM
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My man. Take a break from dating and handle your extreme neediness. I’m telling you as someone who was so unaware of how needy he was in his early 20s, but this will keep repelling women over and over and over. Spend some time alone. Get to know yourself. Start enjoying being with yourself. Do things alone for fun. Take yourself out to a nice restaurant. Don’t date. Try not even socializing with friends for a month. You can do it. Treat yourself well during that whole time. When you are ready an…
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:21 AM
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Let’s get the heck out of here and you can show me these BJ skills you keep bragging about.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:14 AM
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Yep. You are right. Humans survived for millions of years but I think 2025 is the year that we will finally stop procreating.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:14 AM
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By going to the city and bars alone. Do not try to relax, breathe deep, have alcohol or anything else to relax you. Drink a couple of Red Bulls before going and spend the entire night at the same place. Spike your fear and anxiety as much as you can. Walk up to women and tell them “hey, I’m here by myself! I’m looking to make some new friends and btw, if you have coke….i definitely WANT to be your friend”. Do this until your fear disappears.
/r/seduction20/01/25 03:10 AM
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I never said anything about being nicer. I said have more positive expectations and have a positive view of yourself and people you interact with and in general your interactions will become more positive and enjoyable. Or be a miser. Up to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:10 AM
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See! Exactly what I was saying. Case in point. A negative view and expectation. Everything is fucked. Everyone else is stupid and vapid and shallow. I’m the only “real” person and that’s why nobody gets me and I will die alone. Have heard this story a million times. Change your story already.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:07 AM
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Well, everyone IS doing. They are just doing the negative side of this mechanism. They imagine the worst case scenarios, replay them in their head over and over and over, and they either never get the guts to even say hi to a woman, or if they do, they end up coming across as a hostile creep, because they anticipate being rejected and humiliated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:05 AM
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I said the women are wonderful effect’s effect on men’s problems is overblown. I am saying that they are much more likely to suffer (based on observations form this sub) from having very negative expectations and viewing women as a source of pain and rejection, which is a much likelier cause of their problems dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:03 AM
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That was not the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 03:01 AM
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In theory this may sound good, but in practice, that’s not how things work in interpersonal relationships. If all you expect is strife, rejection, pain, unpleasantness, etc., you will be working yourself up in a storm of negativity, defeat and resentment before you’ve even said hi.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:57 AM
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It doesn’t hurt to have positive expectations. Things will probably turn okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:31 AM
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Good! We will never get along anyway!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 01:00 AM
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https://youtu.be/wp5fvxXLdRI?si=DPFg6U9vx7V_vvX8
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:29 PM
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Yes. I mean don’t blurt it out in an autistic manner, but firstly, know what you want. If you do want a serious girlfriend, maybe you don’t want to jump in bed with her the first two three dates. But let it be your choice. Tell her “I don’t sleep with a woman for the first three dates because I don’t want sex to cloud my judgment or yours for that manner.” If you want to have more casual sex, don’t set up the stage as if you are seriously dating. Invite her out for a drink and then tell her: “he…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:04 PM
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Exactly. At most, women are allowed 9, maybe 10 “serious” boyfriends/dating situations as far as society is concerned, before she starts being referred to as “too easy, too lose, for the streets, etc”. So they equivocate the meaning of words so that many guys don’t count. Like “oh, it was oral sex only, it doesn’t even count”. Or “well he was married and I was just horny so it didn’t count”. Or “it was in Ibiza on vacation and Spanish wine was involved so the train didn’t count”. And so on and s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 11:00 PM
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The mansion thing is a symptom not the cause. You correctly identified the fear of loss as being a motivator. But while the mansion situation happened, this is absolutely replicable in a regular guy’s life. But he has to have the strength to know what he wants and to walk away when he is not getting it. How many guys do you know who will tell a girl: hey, not looking for anything serious, not interested in dating. I’m looking to have fun and to put a smile on your face at the end of the night. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:57 PM
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It also depends on you, the man, and how you set the stage. I will be completely honest and admit that I have chased sex with women out of desperation. In the rare event that I succeed with such a woman, who wasn’t initially excited to get in bed or was playing hard to get, it was never really worth it. But also when a man shows that he will put up with all kinds of bullshit just to get some pussy, the woman will lose respect for him one way or another. Desperate men never think about this power…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 10:40 PM
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How can complete strangers who know nothing about you, have you pegged down just by looking at you? How can they figure out your entire life, contributions to society, your internal life, how much money you earn and how you treat you parents or loved ones? Let me give you a clue. People are lazy and they generally do not have an I inclination to spend enough time getting to know someone to figure out their true worth and value in this world. Even if they did, it will be only one person’s opinion…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:02 PM
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If you don’t like you, what exactly do you think they will perceive? Prince Charming?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:02 PM
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For sure
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:47 PM
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It comes down to fear. Fear of losing her. The problem is if you can never truly have her as long as you fear losing her.
/r/seduction19/01/25 06:35 PM
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Like the balding, 5’ Indian janitors who act like 6’5” white billionaires?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:06 PM
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Okay. You do you my nygga
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:05 PM
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Well, okay. Thinking you are ugly and not good enough will always hold you back. Good luck with that. Women only take clues from you on how to treat you, so when they sense that you think of yourself like a Quasimodo, then that’s how they will treat you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:05 PM
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Others take clues from you about how to treat you. There is no such thing as others regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:03 PM
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You really think you are sooooo unique? This sub is filled with guys like you. Doing nothing but posting on ForeverAlone all day further indoctrinating themselves and getting validation about why they are so undesirable. And the more you believe it, the more it becomes your reality. For the record, I don’t need to make assumptions. When they are facts they are not mere assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:21 PM
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Well, it’s about two things really. Here is an exercise. Think about that fantasy ideal girlfriend of yours that you want so badly. Think about how you will treat her. What will a day in the life or a week in the life feel like? Make a list of all the things that you’d do for her. Would you wake up and make her a nice breakfast? Will you keep the house clean? Will you take her on a date to the fanciest restaurant you can afford? Would you buy gifts for her? Or you can substitute your ideal woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:59 PM
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Same thing. You can’t even love yourself but you demand it from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:49 PM
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No it’s not. You are worthy just because you make a choice to treat yourself with love. I have two dogs that are completely useless and unproductive and only cost me money, yet, I love them more than dear life. And definitely more than Elon or whomever else. It’s because I made a choice to love them and to me they are worth the universe.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:47 PM
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But worthless sluts give the best BJs…and other things.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:42 PM
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I’ve made similar posts (under different handles) in the past. It’s trying to actually help and hopefully deprogram some of the brainwashing that you can clearly see on this sub. But go ahead and psychoanalyze OP because that will certainly be effective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:41 PM
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You literally hangout in the most culty, cesspool subreddits and then you wonder why you are lonely and can’t get laid? You keep indoctrinating yourself with self hate and self pity my man. Leave that shit behind
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:38 PM
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Sounds like a lot of “I’ve tried nothing (to improve my appeal) and I’m all out of ideas.”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:36 PM
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Nice try but you are throwing your words to the wind. The chronically single and sexless men here will never get it through their thick skulls that they might be causing their own misery and loneliness. They can’t even seem to think objectively. Like, if your life sucks, if it is lonely and empty and unenjoyable, why do you think any woman will want to be a part of it? Even if you did manage to get a woman, are you really going to bring her into your world of misery and isolation? How long do yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:35 PM
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Everybody was freaked out about Covid, but there are no vaccines or masks to prevent the woke virus.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:27 PM
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You do understand that “performing” for women is what’s keeping you from getting laid, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:27 PM
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Because hanging out with men is normal. Maleness and masculinity also rub off on you. I remember guys in elementary and middle school who hung out and played only with girls and their dolls. I’m guessing they are gay now. Contrary to popular belief, pussy juice isn’t going to solve all your problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:26 PM
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That’s not how it works. It’s actually the men who cause their own problems. If you want easy sex, don’t act like you are boyfriend material and want something serious. Act like a fuckboy who just enjoys sex and doesn’t want to get serious. If you start the interaction of with dating and showing serious intentions, sex will immediately be put on hold, because that’s who men have trained women to be. If she’s too easy, she’s a slut who gives it to anyone. Sound familiar?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:24 PM
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I’m the male version of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:22 PM
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You are demonstrating a fundamental lack of understanding of human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:05 AM
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It’s not about being selfish but about being inexperienced. And let’s face it, below average men barely if ever practice sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:09 AM
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A lot of words to say “I’m a broke ass hoe”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:43 PM
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So how come the brokest ass n****s always have the most kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:42 PM
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Let me tell you a little secret: the provider model has NEVER worked. It is 100% a fabrication of society to make men work hard and indirectly push society forward. If men figured out they don’t need any of this shit to get laid, society as we know it would literally fall apart.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:41 PM
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It’s near damn impossible to get a date. Small wonder humanity has survived for over 500,000 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:53 AM
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Go out an hour before closing time. Enter bar, spot hottest remaining girl, approach her with a big smile and say “Hi, I’m Bob, what’s your name?”
/r/seduction10/01/25 11:57 PM
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Let’s backtrack here. If you define attractiveness as only your looks or what we men tend to understand by looks, then you are only judging yourself by a single factor that goes into attractiveness. And who says that you are not attractive enough? I mean if that’s what you tell yourself, hey man, that’s a you problem. Why not judge your attractiveness on the qualities that you are especially good at that. Why not be a 10 at being a cool guy. Instead of a 5/10 because of height or having a little…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:09 PM
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You are such a good boy! Jump!
/r/seduction10/01/25 09:39 PM
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I mean it’s what women have been doing to you your entire life, so it’s nice to have the power for a change. But at the end of the day, what are you accomplishing? You don’t need to turn women down to not get laid.
/r/seduction10/01/25 09:37 PM
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If you want to get over your fear of rejection once and forever, do this. It may be best to go to a college campus far from home or go two towns over where nobody knows you. Spend an entire day or weekend if you have to. Your goal is to walk up to at least 10 women and tell them something to the tune of: “Hi there, I’m Bob, what’s your name? Nice to meet you, Monica. I know this might be a little out of left field, but I was hoping you could help me with something. I’ve been really shy and afrai…
/r/seduction10/01/25 09:36 PM
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I will look her dead in the eyes and if she looks back I will smile and start walking towards her very slowly without breaking eye contact. And the whole time I will be imagining fucking her brains out.
/r/seduction10/01/25 09:31 PM
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As long as you make women and especially hot women to have higher status than you in your own head, yeah, it will not only be difficult, it will be impossible.
/r/seduction10/01/25 09:30 PM
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Why are you excusing yourself? Tell her: “everything you’ve heard about me is true. Except that one where I got blackout drunk at a holiday party and popped my pants. That one’s not true, but everything else is”. Then tell her. I want to take you out on a proper date. How this Thursday or Friday? Cool, Friday it is. Meet me at 8PM at The Tropicana Bar for drinks and wear something sexy. That’s all you need to do.
/r/seduction10/01/25 09:27 PM
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One of my friends is a professor. He gets many female students crushing on him. Nobody is preying on college students. They are often the predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:19 PM
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Also: “if she fucked me so fast without me having to impress her, take her on a bunch of dates and work really hard to convince her, then she MUST do this with EVERYONE. Because there is NO way I’m good enough as a man to have a woman be interested in me because I’m me. What a slut!”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:17 PM
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OP’s claim was that once you’ve had sex, she is more likely to go sleep with someone else, which, while not unlikely, is not very common as long as you lay the down the pipe nice and deep.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:14 PM
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You don’t understand. A man cannot control his penis: his penis controls him. Everyone knows this! Are you stupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:13 PM
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Oh, I have no interest in arguing with you. I know it works. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:19 PM
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Read. I said if you are happy with the way you approach things, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:14 PM
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Hey, if your way works for you and you are happy with the results, who am I to tell you differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:11 PM
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That’s not how any of this works my dude. I don’t know when men will get it through their thick skulls that a huge reason for why women are not attracted to them to begin with is because of the neediness and desperation that they exude. It’s nothing rocket science. We give off vibes through our body language, how we carry ourselves and how we communicate. Being more selective, more discerning and not jumping into a relationship with the first person who shows interest in you, makes you appear mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:13 PM
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I didn’t say they can’t make jokes. I said they are not funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:29 PM
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Sure! Plenty of black people in the KKK too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:14 PM
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The gif was meant to describe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:59 AM
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Let me give you an analogy. You drive your car and get stuck in some mud. Typically our dumb animal brain tells us “hey bro, you are stuck, just press the pedal to the metal and you will get unstuck…duh…” And the more you accelerate and try to go forward, the more stuck you become in the mud. To someone who has never experienced that, it would seem very counterintuitive to go backwards instead and go slowly, which will most likely help them get out of the mud. Let’s connect the two scenarios now…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:47 AM
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Here is why woke leftist guys can’t get laid. They are not funny. Wokeness killed humor. How are you going to make a woman laugh if everything under the sun offends you and triggers you due to microagression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:34 AM
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I literally commented on a recent post on the AskMenAdvice sub. The gist of the OP was something like: “So all my friends tell me that I should have higher standards with women and not date whomever happens to give me some attention, but if I did that I’d die a virgin. My last gf showed interest in me and then it was another 5 years until another girl showed interest in me. All my relationships have not lasted past 10 months and they always dump me. Why on earth will I ever have standards? I tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:06 AM
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The person who needs the most has the least power.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:02 AM
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I’m think you misspelled “the first step is women hoping to be chosen by the man”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:37 AM
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I’m not one to dig into people’s posting history, but you posted 2 months ago that you have very low self esteem and suicidal thoughts. So how exactly have you tested my hypothesis, when your internal state is the opposite of what my “method” requires?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:38 PM
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lol, your view of the world is actually a programming that society has been installing in us since we were born. It works in this way - work = sex. Tell men that the ONLY way they can get sex with an attractive woman is to work hard, scale new peaks and become CEOs so they can finally claim their ultimate prize - a hot chick! So you are just conditioned to only feel confident when you are successful by society’s standards and feel like a loser if you are not contributing to society as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 03:36 PM
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I have only my experience to go off of. Hopefully, you have tested your assumption and have the data to back it up, albeit anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:51 PM
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Think whatever you want. I’ve been both invisible and hit on in my life. The difference has always been the vibe I give off.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 01:55 PM
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When I was dating I was way skinnier than I am today and had less money to dress well, but I always tried to treat myself and carry myself as a prince. I wouldn’t describe it as an air of success per se. It is actually something that Johnny Soporno calls “successfullness”. It’s a combination of self satisfaction, that you are the man you ought to be and you are someone who would be ecstatic to have himself as a best friend and happiness. This combination is extremely powerful for women, because …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:32 PM
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It’s funny. In my younger days I picked up tons of women in bars and cafes or sometimes on the street. They were just attracted to my attitude, boldness and confidence. I don’t remember any particular woman taking any interest in what I do or how much money I had. How could they figure out my salary or networth by taking one glance at me at a crowded bar? Here is what I think the true power of money is. When a guy has money, he feels that he has achieved something that society approves of. And b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 02:37 AM
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There was a very interesting article in The NY Times about an evolutionary psychologist who wrote something to the tune of: “The modern woman is the product of ancestors who stuck to the crowd, played it safe and played nice. It made sense for the female of the species to not expose herself to dangers and risk death because that would doom the tribe and the species as a whole if it happened en masse. A female just had to wait long enough and an eligible partner would find her and impregnate her.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:35 AM
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And that right here encapsulates the biggest obstacle these men have to getting laid or getting into the relationships they want. As long as you are afraid of being alone, nobody will truly want you. Nobody wants needy; desperate people. See how they cling to their desperation too: wearing it like a badge of honor. Can’t make this up, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:57 AM
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I have hemorrhoids, therefore everyone has raging hemorrhoids.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 02:40 AM
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Let me summarize the answers for you. I’m a nerd who rarely leaves the house. I don’t do anything exciting or have any fun in my life. But it’s not I that should change. It’s those foul wenches that chase after those motorcycle riding, cigarette smoking, big dick having ne’er- do-gooders that should change their wicked ways and realize that a boring nerd like me is way more exciting than some badboy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 12:21 AM
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Why don’t you get a girlfriend first before you worry about those hypotheticals?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:14 PM
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Anything but actually go an talk to a girl, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:41 AM
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My grandfather? Who fought in world war 2 and worked in the mines? Who barely left his village his entire life? I work harder than he did?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:40 AM
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Why is it any of your business who is fucking whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 11:38 AM
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Look, as always, the answer is the least sexy and most overlooked or scoffed at solution: love yourself. It’s really as simple as that. It’s no different from women, but men want to be “special”, because they think their problem is special. The problem is simply not feeling good enough. And they don’t feel good enough because they are pressured to measure their self worth by external achievements, arbitrary criteria and the opinions of others. Women are under no pressure to measure their self wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:11 AM
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Two words: pussy juice. Guaranteed to cure low self esteem, depression, social anxiety, warts, acne, even cancer in some cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:56 AM
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Your dating strategy is about a hundred years out of date. But good luck trying to be the loyal provider gentleman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:54 AM
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Maybe try thinking more positively about yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:53 AM
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I mean, women’s promiscuity does tend to change with age. I would say they are most promiscuous from 14 (let’s say puberty) till about early 20s. Then from mid 20-late 20s they start thinking about family and kids and want to lock a guy down, so it become more about “serious relationships”. And then they become promiscuous again once kids are out of the way and they are divorced (or cheating). Some even say women don’t hit their sexual peak until their 40s. But, since many guys who post here nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:31 PM
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Schroedinger’s casual sex. Women are simultaneously having casual sex with 30 partners before they turn 21, yet NO men ever get casual sex. So how are women magically having so many partners? Are those partners some 3rd sex we haven’t heard about, aliens, large farm animals? 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 04:29 PM
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Yeah, your experience is what dating was all about for quite a long time. Friend of a friend type of thing, school, etc. I also think romantically unsuccessful people over romanticize how things were in the past, and many of them weren’t even alive back then, so what do they know, lol. There is no problem with meeting strangers. All my friends were strangers at one point. I’ve picked up most of my exes including my now wife. But I was a man on a mission and I wanted to overcome my shyness and so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:55 PM
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I’m in my 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 03:00 PM
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I’m not asking that. OP is asking that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:59 PM
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Womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:58 PM
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Nah, my first gf didn’t want to do anal or anything other than the missionary because she thought it was degrading, lol. I met a super kinky girl later on and I was traumatized by some of the stuff she liked. Oh, what a sweet summer child I was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:57 PM
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I came of age in the 90s and was fucking my first girlfriend at 16 in my bedroom right next to my mom’s. I don’t remember ever taking her out on a date or buying her anything other than a coffee or sharing a cigarette. She approached me to. Terms fucked like bunnies back then. We liked to experiment. I feel bad for kids these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 02:20 PM
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The purity/virginity requirement was solely because of the agricultural revolution and land as property becoming a thing. Native Americans had no concept of property, hence why they sold Manhattan for peanuts. But in Europe and large swaths of Asia, land ownership was passed down from father to first born. So a virgin wife was a way to ensure the first born was the father’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:54 PM
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It’s not about puritan beliefs. It’s about not being competitive on the free market. It’s like American companies demanding tariffs to stave off the foreign competition that is higher quality at a lower price.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:50 PM
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Well yes, because men also bought into this although to their complete detriment, ironically enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:03 PM
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Just remember that the olden days were actually governed by female sexual cartel. Where it was passed down from mother to daughter that you should never provide sex to a man without exchanging it for something of value, whether that’s a fancy dinner, favors, or commitment to exclusivity before the act has been consummated. Any woman who went outside of this framework and had sex for….GASP….free, was immediately labeled a S**T. Mind you, labeled this by OTHER women, not men. This sexual cartel ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:25 PM
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Never had interest in this. It’s actually a bad idea especially for men. Your problem isn’t the current dating market. Your problem is that you are not competitive in this dating so you want to go back to being unionized, where the weakest member of the union still gets benefits, but the strongest members of the union are not allowed to reap the profits of being more competitive. Instead of wishing to go back to union days, which were kind of made up anyway, focus on become more competitive in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:14 PM
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It never ceases to amaze me just how much men create their own problems, but then turn around to blame women for them. There are several different problems, and you have actually pointed out only one of them. The problem with lack of honesty. But even before that, a man must solve another problem, which is “what does he want”? The men who reply “I want it all, I want to bang her in the bathroom of the bar 5 mins after we met, but I also want her to fall in love with me and be wife material, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 12:12 PM
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Women hate each other’s guts especially if one is prettier and gets all the attention from guys. Women saying they don’t care about attention from men are lying through their asses. Go to any of the skincare over 30 or aging subs and read stories about women going through meno and just how depressed they are that nobody even looks at them twice. It’s just female nature. Both men and women are fucked up in their own ways. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:57 AM
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You yungins think these has been a problem only since dating apps and #metoo, but these were just the catalysts that brought pimple to a head. The extreme polarization and alienation of the sexes has been going on for a while. I grew up as a teen in the 90s and was already seeing some of this rear its ugly head even back then. It accelerated in the early 2000s and is on a self destruct trajectory today. The reality is no matter how much women on social media screeching about being strong and ind…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 11:55 AM
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OP is not really interested in a debate. She just wants to shit on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:30 PM
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Well, the providing part you are right about, because being a provider is about the least sexy thing you can do. But it’s an idea that’s been fed to us for many centuries, that the guy provides for the woman and baby, etc., because she won’t be able to provide for herself while preggers. The protection thing is real. Women are attracted to men who look like they can provide safety and security. Paradoxically, a tall, muscular jerk, who doesn’t even care about her much and who changes chicks like…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 08:29 PM
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Oh wow, you don’t say.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 01:52 PM
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You are missing the point. This isn’t about locking yourself in a cave and never speaking to people again. It’s about becoming a more attractive dating prospect. People only want what they can’t get and never want what they can get. You can see this in other areas of life, like job hunting for example. Why do employers spend tons of money on headhunters and try to poach employees from other companies? Why not just hire some unemployed guy or someone desperate for a job? It’s because they view pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 12:57 PM
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Ugh. Enough with the self defeating, men don’t care about feelings crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 09:58 PM
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You are very wrong to assume that sex will solve an incel’s problem, when it’s the mentality that is actively preventing them from having sex in the first place. You are also completely wrong about CBT, because that’s the only therapy that requires doing practical homework for it to even work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 11:46 AM
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Thank you. My comment wasn’t even about fixing yourself, necessarily (aren’t we all broken in our own little ways?), but more about become more desirable, which does happen when you give up the need for approval. It’s so powerful to walk up to a woman without needing her to like you, but only being concerned with whether you like her. It’s a total role reversal 99% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 11:29 AM
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A guy who struggles to get friends will definitely struggle to get a girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 11:24 AM
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Mmmmkay
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:13 AM
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I haven’t noticed any of this. If anything women are unhappier and lonelier than ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 04:11 AM
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You didn’t even bother watching the video or understanding the purpose of the advice. You guys always have the same fucking response: BUT I DON’T WANT TO BE OKAY WITH BEING ALONE BECAUSE THEN I WILL BE ALONE FOREVER. I get it. But your fear of being alone is actually what keeps you alone. Sounds paradoxical but it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 03:26 AM
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I guess you changed your mindset about where to live then.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:41 AM
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Again, if the solution to your problems is to actually stop being such a miserable fuck and leave to enjoy life, which wil make you infinitely more attractive to women than being a desperate needy pathetic loser who is constantly chasing them, would that work for you? Or would it still not be enough to give up your insistence on being miserable?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:10 AM
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I mean if the solution to your loneliness was to stop being miserable about being single, would you still cling to your misery and loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 02:09 AM
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Have you actually tested your hypothesis?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 01:55 AM
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You can’t even answer a simple question. I told you, learning to be happy and fulfilled even when will improve one’s attractiveness. You refuse to give up your misery. So has it actually helped you or not? Simple fucking question
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:28 AM
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You are right. It’s the fucking high female standards again that are tripping up all these perfectly fine nice chaps. Fucking bitches at it again, making our lives miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 10:10 PM
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I can see that too. But this is coming from a place of negativity and hate. A place of “the juice isn’t worth the squeeze, who needs those bitches anyway, a relationship/marriage will just suck you dry anyway”. But this is not what Dr. Burns is suggesting at all. He is not telling anyone to shun relationships. He is simply telling folks, if they learn to be happy even when they are alone, they will be much more likely to find willing partners than if they are miserable and depressed because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:00 PM
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Hmmm. You are coming at this from a place of negativity and hate. Is a person not able to be happy in two different states: when single or when coupled?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:57 PM
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Okay how much do you want for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:56 PM
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No, I completely understand who this advice is for. Here is my question to you. Please answer it before saying anything else: Why hasn’t being miserable when alone actually helped these guys get girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:50 PM
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I hope so?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:47 PM
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To be happy when you are alone means that you have the capacity to enjoy your own company and do things without a partner or even friends and find happiness and fulfillment in those things. It also means that you do not crave a relationship just because you are painfully lonely and miserable. This is when a relationship or a friendship with someone becomes a CHOICE. Something t that you WANT vs something that you desperately NEED. In the context of dating and the way most guys on PPD are affecte…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:22 PM
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This is a very short video, but he has many podcasts where he talks about the fear of being alone and how it’s actually detrimental to forming relationships. Yes, even loners are addicted to love/attention. The fact that they are so unhappy without validation from women, shows that they are completely addicted to it. And if they are constantly miserable, it creates a very unattractive aura that makes everyone avoid them. Again, you are working with an extremely black and white, binary perspectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 08:06 PM
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Only people on PPD maintain that learning to be happy alone means that you know have to cut off your balls and go live in a cave and never speak to another human being again. It’s typically straw man argument, coming up with some crazy scenario as “yes but”. He is saying what you described: that being afraid to be alone and being miserable when you are alone will actually prevent you from making friends and getting a girlfriend, because nobody wants to be around needy and miserable people. I wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:43 PM
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Never said there is a magic bullet to make every woman fall for you. But there are universal traits that women are always attracted to. Boldness, commanding respect and authority and knowing what you want and going for it. Not that complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:38 PM
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It’s just fear. They are the most fearful segment of men out there and biologically and evolutionary speaking, women don’t want to mate with cowards, because they don’t want to pass on cowardly genes to their offspring. If the male is afraid of her as a woman, then he is definitely afraid of the dinosaur and of other cavemen. And if their children are also afraid of dinosaurs and other cave children, they won’t last very long. It all comes down to fear. Just listen to the way they talk about str…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:37 PM
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And I’m saying you don’t quite understand what personality traits make someone attractive. You are focusing only on physical appearance and completely ignoring the fact that your personality traits come across in your body language and how you carry yourself. You keep talking about good personality but that’s very different from an attractive personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:30 PM
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Which shows that you lack fundamental understanding of what it means to be happy when you are alone and why it is actually very attractive to the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:27 PM
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You keep using that term “great of a person” or “good personality”. These mean nothing in the arena of sexual arousal.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:26 PM
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He never said that hat implication of learning to be happy when you are alone is to avoid relationships and live like a hermit. This is something that you completely made up in your head and bears no basis in reality. Let me put it to you this way. I’m happy if I eat a donut and I’m happy if I don’t eat a donut. Does me being happy when I’m not eating a donut mean that I should never ever enjoy a donut? Only a crazy person would jump to that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:13 PM
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You are conflating a good/pleasant personality with an attractive personality. It’s the typical Nice Guy paradigm: but I was soooo nice to her and did everything for her, why did she run off with that jerk? It’s a fundamental lack of understanding of what personality traits make a man attractive in the first place. And it has nothing to do with a pleasant personality or having things in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:07 PM
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Body language is part of behavior and it tells a lot about a man before he has even opened his mouth. The fact that you don’t understand this, is a you problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:05 PM
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This is a very common thing I see among the “I haven’t had a date in 10 years, it’s hopeless, I will be forever alone” types. They seem to do everything on gods geeen earth BUT actually talk, socialize with and hit on women. They work out, excel at their job, own property, etc. Everything that their mom told them would secure them a loving wife/gf. Yet, they never do the one thing that is actually required to get a gf and that’s actually talk to and interact with women in a non neurotic, autisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:03 PM
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Do you think Tony Soprano is physically attractive? A balding, heavy set fellow with a nasally, high pitched voice?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 07:00 PM
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Where did Dr. Burns say that you should prefer to be alone and even better cut of your dick and balls and join a monastery?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:57 PM
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Absolutely not. She is not having sex with 100 men in 24 hours because it’s enjoyable, but because she needed to do a desperate stunt to get followers/subscribers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:51 PM
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I’m not sure what you mean exactly. What do you disagree with specifically? Be specific please.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:20 PM
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Yes. I enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:09 PM
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This is not a question of tools but a question of motivation. The topic of having stronger male bonds and fulfilling hobbies comes up relatively often and it is almost always shot down in flames by the usual doomer brigade. The problem is that when you are in a blizzard of loneliness, depression, anxiety and negativity, being shown a path that seems counterintuitive at first, gets no traction. It’s like if someone who is lost in the woods and starving and thirsty and someone tells them “you are …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:08 PM
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Nah! She cries when you cum in her eyes. Not slutty enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 03:58 PM
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Looks are the minimum threshold for me. For most men, they decide then and there that they want a woman (literally only attracted to body parts) and they tend to idealize what she is like as a person. I’ve had the most success when look at a woman and think “ok, she is attractive because I’m attracted to her. I wonder if she’s also interesting and charming. Let me go and investigate and I will make up my mind then”. Surprisingly (not), this attitude almost always results in the woman trying to p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:57 PM
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I feel like you have some chip on your shoulder or something. Nobody said anything about interrupting and annoying women. You must be in a perpetual PMSing state or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:52 PM
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I mean not that we find most women unattractive, it’s just that we are so used to make up now, that if we see women without it, it’s a bit of an adjustment. It’s the same as women considering off season Jason Momoa having a dad bod. Like so many men are using steroids and going crazy in the gym, that a great body become the new normal. While just a couple of decades ago, it would have been exceedingly rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:50 PM
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Womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 02:48 PM
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lol, most women look horrendous without make up. The ones who can look great without it are so rare you need to cherish them like a diamond. I’m okay with surgery and other enhancements. I’m myself enhanced with testosterone and Cialis. So I don’t mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:53 PM
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Gaslight? Okay, if you are just gonna throw some psycho babble crap at me, this conversation is over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:54 PM
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Because it’s not the relationship that made him happier. He gave himself permission to be happy once he achieved what he thought is the holy grail. Only we can make ourselves happy OR miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:50 PM
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Because it is simply not true. Nobody else can make you happy or unhappy. It’s always the YOU that causes the happiness or happiness depending on what self defeating beliefs you hold. A person who believes they are nothing without a loving partner will always make themselves unhappy when they are single or if they get rejected. They may believe they are happy when they are in a relationship or dating someone, but then that person always has the power. If they choose to stop loving you, which hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:29 PM
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I had a rule when I used to date. If we are not fucking by the third date, she’s out the door. Simple rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:33 AM
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It’s interesting that you use cats as an analogy. Let’s expand this analogy. You can’t corn into a room and should at a cat “Come here, Kitty, come get some loving” the same way you can do with a dog. A dog will jump on you and start licking you, but a cat will simply run off. But ignore a cat, don’t pay it attention, and it will come to you to investigate what’s up. Well, women work the same way. So no amount of men screaming “testosterone makes me horny and you HAVE to love me and give me sex”…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:31 AM
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No it’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:25 AM
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THAT’s a bingo!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:24 AM
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That’s very correct. It doesn’t even stop at religion. Everyday we are bombarded by hundreds of songs proclaiming “I can’t live without you baby” and “all you need is love…, love is all you need” and “people who need people are the luckiest people in the world”. For some reason it tends to hit men harder. As you said, many men don’t consider themselves complete without a woman. And the most ironic thing? The more men buy into this BS, the more they consider themselves incomplete without a woman,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 12:23 AM
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There are two types of status: Social status: determined by whatever standards/criteria are popular in your current society or sub-group. For example, an NFL pro player will have high status in most of the USA. In Europe or Asia, he will be just another fat American. Etc. Intrinsic status based on how the man feels about himself and how he behaves. A man can be very rich or have social status, yet, behave like is below you or others and act submissively, with people pleasing tendencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 09:01 PM
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Two major reasons. The first one is social conditioning/brainwashing. We are bombarded all of our lives since we were born with songs, movies, tv shows and poems with men singing “I can’t live without you baby” and “all you need is love, love is all you need” and a million other similar messages telling us love is the most important thing in the world. Corporations figured out long ago that they can leverage a man’s high sex drive to make him chase after women and as a by-product push the societ…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:42 PM
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People never want what they can get and only want what they can’t get.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:37 PM
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Sex is pleasureful and many people enjoy it just for the sake of enjoying it. You need to understand that there is a helluva lot of religious shaming around sex. Thats the abnormal stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:32 PM
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I guess cum really stings the eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:25 PM
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Wait until you realize that society puts women into only two categories. If she chooses to have sex with a man just because she find him sexy, or is horny, or bored, or likes his shitty bar band, or his style or whatever, and doesn’t want anything in return, she is labeled a SLUT! A slut who has no self respect and is giving it AWAY FOR FREE. How dare she? But then we have the other type of woman, who has way more self respect, so she actually charges for it. Whether it’s upfront payment that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:50 PM
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She was crying because a bunch of guys came in her eyes and hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:46 PM
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Oh god. Not another one of those weird pseduo psychoanalytical posts trying to describe anyone who doesn’t fit into society’s little box as sexually abused, emotionally abandoned as a child, traumatized weirdo. Some people just enjoy sex and don’t take it too seriously. If you didn’t take it so seriously, maybe you’d get laid more.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:44 PM
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Finally someone who gets me!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 04:04 AM
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I didn’t want to get married. I wanted to stay a playboy into my 40s and 50s, but met a great girl and got hitched. But it’s not something that’s needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:51 AM
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But it’s not. All the guy has to do is actually like and respect himself. If you validate yourself, you don’t need to look to women for it. Then they will start wanting your validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:49 AM
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This is all kinds of wrong. The reason high effort men tend to fail in dating is that them putting too much effort actually sends all the wrong signals. Here is the secret to getting women interested. Here is what they are thinking when they come across your profile or see you at the bar. They are trying to determine right away if you are a man who has many options (or even one option). They want to determine if you look like and behave like a person who gets other women. Now think about it. Wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:39 AM
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Women have been saying a lot of things for a long time. It’s f a man it’s stupid enough to listen to them, he will go mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:51 AM
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The way I see it, it’s a win win. More women will just learn to swallow and do anal.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:50 AM
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I mean I don’t care if we are only having sex, like women have never asked me what I do for a living when we’ve hooked up. That being said if I’m considering a serious relationship, I don’t want no broke ass bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:49 AM
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🎶 Latina, pornstar, 36-24-36”, bubble butt. Latina, pornstar, 36-24-36”, bubble butt. Latina, pornstar, 36-24-36”, bubble butt. 🎶
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 12:48 AM
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You never answered my question. Has you worrying about what women are thinking actually resulted in a successful relationship? Or multiple relationships? Yes or no. Simple fucking question, although I already know the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:57 PM
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Is this even English? Are you saying you are NOT in a relationship at the moment?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:59 PM
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I asked how has that worked out for you. And you seem to be dancing around the subject but not actually answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:56 PM
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Oh yeah? And how’s that working out for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:21 PM
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Have you tried being an adult who thinks for himself instead of worrying what women or other people are thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 05:08 PM
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It’s like the guy who shows up at a party and he hasn’t eaten all day, so he inhales all the snacks and gets drunk like a skunk. And then nobody wants to invite him to a party again. Same idea. Shows that you have no options.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 03:25 PM
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Ok. I would add that the main problem is clinginess and being overly nice telegraphs that the guy has NO options. And if other women don’t want him, then there must be something wrong with him, hence why would you want him.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:26 PM
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I guess up is down, left is right, white is black and being a follower is actually being in charge. You learn something new every single day! You make several huge fallacies in your claim. The person who leads is by default the person with power. I can’t even fathom how you could spin this to mean “oh, the woman is actually in charge all the time because she doesn’t have to make decisions”. Dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Of course a woman benefits from being with a man who takes the lead. The sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:11 PM
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I am in complete agreement with your main point. I will go as far as to say, that the examples you have provided are actually very egregious and it doesn’t take nearly as much to signal neediness and clinginess. Often, it is simply a vibe a guy gives off. It is also interesting that all unsuccessful daters will go to such lengths to defend their clinginess, when it is the single biggest thing that kills their chances with women. Unbelievable. But while one can work hard to fix the behavior and t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 12:06 PM
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Oh wait? It’s been only 6 hours since the last age gap thread? I guess! Here we go again….
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:17 PM
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Sure, improvement is good as long it is driven by a healthy motivation. Making a claim that you are too ugly to date is not realistic. Plenty of ugly people find dates and the fact that the person making the claim was actually born means that they inherited their looks from their parents. Their parents were also probably not the best looking yet they managed to procreate. Thats why these type of extreme beliefs/claims are irrational.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 04:47 PM
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Bullshit. Women are absolutely open to having casual, no strings attached sex. It is actually men who get overly attached and emotional and always wanting something more. No, women don’t want it on their terms. You are the man, you set the rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:45 PM
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Yes I’m totally sure actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:40 PM
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For the most part people are conditioned to be good members of society so they can help push society forward. Men are conditioned to be stoic warrior types, who show no emotion, so they can work without complaining and sacrifice their time and bodies supposedly working for themselves. But they are not working for themselves. If they were, they would do just enough to have the basics and spend the rest of their time getting laid. Women are also conditioned to fulfill a role. They are taught to al…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:39 PM
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Exactly. Both are irrational and untrue. Thats why people who mercilessly beat themselves up are almost always irrational and lying to themselves. And answer isn’t to beat their chest and scream “I’m the best”. The answer is to be rational and realistic. And this will alleviate all their depression and low self esteem.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 12:47 AM
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Women absolutely love to meet complete strangers. Most romance novels feature a strange man who comes into the heroine’s life. A tall, dark and handsome stranger is a romance trope for a reason. You can meet women anywhere and everywhere. I’ve done it so many times, it’s just funny to me when I meet others who think women only fuck men they have fucked before.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:22 PM
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You are looking at this from a black and white point of view, ie you are thinking in extremes. Let’s assume that the statement “I am extremely ugly and unable to attract any partner” is an objective untruth. It’s a lie. You don’t go about disproving this belief by telling yourself “no, actually, I have the body of a Greek god and I am can have sex with any woman alive just by winking at her.” This belief is just as untrue as the first one. You go about disproving the original negative belief by …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:19 PM
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Point out which self talk is based on irrational beliefs: A. I’m the ugliest man alive and will never ever attract a partner OR B. I’m the best looking man alive and I can have any woman I want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:14 PM
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Interestingly I’ve had the exact opposite results. The more honest I was with women, the more easily I got laid. Now, I don’t know what you tell them. Probably you tell them something offensive or insensitive or you are picking the wrong women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 11:11 PM
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lol, what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 03:02 AM
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There are a lot of women who suck so bad at sex it’s not even funny. But depends on how horny or desperate the guy is, he might keep her around for a little bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:56 AM
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When women say “don’t harass us, don’t bother us”, etc. they they are saying is that they don’t like to be pursued by creepy, needy, over pursuers. They want to be the one doing the pursuing but you have to give them an opportunity to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:53 AM
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I mean you don’t have to give them anything else. You are already giving them your manhood. What more can they ask for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 06:38 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished. If you are fucking them; you are already giving them way too much.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 05:45 PM
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It seems a lot of men are triggered by women having the ability to fuck lots of men. I mean, the average woman can take on 5 guys at a time. One in the pink, one in the stink, one in the mouth and two with her hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:24 PM
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Need for men but not for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:22 PM
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There is proof that we need social validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:47 PM
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It seems men have bought into the belief that validation through sex is necessary for happiness and fulfillment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:43 PM
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Sounds like people make themselves suffer unnecessarily.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:40 PM
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Nope. They just can’t find enough men who are sexually arousing enough to make that happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:52 PM
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I agree with the overall principles of her book, but I think she unnecessarily vilifies women. It goes much higher than this. I think society is the one that has created those rules for men and women. Look at it this way. Many hundreds of thousands of years ago, humans were tribal. There were no large cities, etc. We had family units and we had an immediate tribe. In these tribes, people lived their lives to the best of their knowledge and got as much sex as they wanted because sex was communal.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:51 PM
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If you don’t know where a belief comes from, chances are you were not the one to form said belief from your own experience and logic, but rather the belief was installed in you by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:30 PM
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For the purposes of my argument let’s not discuss number of partners. The question I had was around is sex a NEED or is it a WANT. It seems men tend to apply two different standards to sex when it comes to themselves (we’ve all heard the “sex is a need, I’m lonely, depressed and miserable without it), yet, when it comes to women, all of a sudden sex is not a NEED, they can’t control, but rather it’s something they should abstain from. So it’s okay for men to need sex like they need air, but wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:29 PM
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So why aren’t women having more sex if they can get it so easily? You’d think the average woman would be banging a new dude every hour on the hour?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:25 PM
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How convenient that there aren’t any charts about men, lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:24 PM
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Never mentioned infidelity anywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:22 PM
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The question wasn’t about promiscuity but about how men view sex. They view sex as a NEED for themselves, without it, they become mentally unstable, lonely and depressed. But at the some time, they often say women shouldn’t be having much sex if at all because it destroys their value. So which one is it? Is sex such a dire need that having it is super healthy and desirable OR does it destroy your value? How can something be both a need and keeps you from going insane and it destroys your value a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:22 PM
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We are both Homo sapiens?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:20 PM
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Ok, so you are the arbiter of how many partners one should have?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:19 PM
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And why is that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:18 PM
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But we are both Homo sapiens. Sex is either a need or it isn’t. It’s not rocket science.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:17 PM
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I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:15 PM
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The question is is sex a NEED and without it a man goes insane or is it a WANT and therefore, no need to be so dramatic about having it or not having it. I ask that the same standards if definition are applied both to male and female sex havers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:14 PM
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If you are abstaining from it, it’s not a need. It’s a want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:12 PM
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So for a woman sex is not a psychological need the same way it is for men? For women, sex is actually a mechanism to degrade her value? And the more she has it the more crazy she goes, while the inverse is true for men? The less sex they have the more cray cray they go?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:12 PM
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I realize my OP was not worded very well, probably sounded better in my head. The argument I am trying to make is against the notion that sex is a NEED for men, as many claim. IMHO, treating sex and intimacy like something one NEEDS instead of something one WANTS, creates all kinds of problems. Namely, it makes one needy and desperate, which turns the other person off. Nevertheless, many men who maintain sex is a NEED, have no problem saying women should NOT be having sex with men, because that …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:11 PM
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There is no evidence sex is a psychological need.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:05 PM
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Care to show some evidence for that? Thats what I thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:41 AM
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How is there NO hypocrisy? If sex is a NEED for men, wouldn’t it also be a NEED for women? Or are women robots? Or is it possible that maybe sex isn’t really a NEED? But rather something men want, but not really need, the same way they expect women not to NEED sex? I guess if men continue to maintain that sex is a need, why would they be mad that women go out and fulfill their needs for sex? If you are hungry, do you want everyone else to go hungry as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:47 AM
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It’s actually not about preferences. Let me give you an analogy. Let’s say you have a wife. And every Friday night is a girls’ night. She goes with her girlfriends because she tells you she needs to blow off some steam from her stressful job and taking care of the kids, etc. She NEEDS girls night out, no questions asked. But then, when you decide to have a Guys’ Sunday drinking beers and watching a game at a bar, she scoffs at you and says “no way Jose! i know you guys are up to no good. Nuhuh! …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 03:44 AM
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Never been here before
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 02:53 AM
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What makes it gross?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:36 AM
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How do you define a slut? A woman who’s had more sex than you’d like her to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:36 AM
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Okay. But they also want women with zero or very little boyfriends. So why should men claim intimacy is a need but it should not be a need for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:35 AM
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Do you bring your own strap on to dates? Don’t know what’s the etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:34 AM
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I guess. But why are the women whores for having sex? If a man claims sex for him is an absolute need, wouldn’t it follow that it is a need for a woman? If that’s true, then why would he want a woman not to fulfill her needs and go cray cray? Unless, sex is not that big of a need as they claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:34 AM
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Okay, that’s a good explanation. I still don’t know how they square the conviction that a man needs sex to be sane, but a woman should be completely fine without it or with very little. I guess they would never say “a man needs food and water but women should not eat or drink, it’s bad for them”. Hmmm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:32 AM
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Okay we are getting somewhere. Is sex the only way to get said validation?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:30 AM
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None of this explains the hypocrisy between “men NEED sex” but “the less sex a woman has, the better person she is”. Will you say “a man needs food to live, but a woman has no such need and shouldn’t eat”?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:30 AM
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Sex is sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 01:18 AM
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Ok so it’s not the sex men are after?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:50 AM
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Basically every other post or comment on PPD
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:44 AM
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My main point was that IF men maintain that sex is a NEED for them, why do they want women who are NOT HAVING sex? Are they many with women not fulfilling their psychological need to have sex or do women not need sex at all? Which one is it is my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:43 AM
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We are talking about sex being a need as many men claim. So are you saying it’s okay for sex to be a need for men, eh tbh out which they cannot live, but it’s not ok for sex to be a need for women and they should be expected to go without it and be happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:41 AM
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What does that have to do with sex being a NEED as many men claim? Is sex a need or is it not?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:40 AM
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To apply different standards or logic to the same concept just because there is a different person involved in it. Sex is either a dire psychological NEED for both genders, which means men should be advocating for women to be entitled to more sex, the same way they claim men are entitled to sex or they should shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:09 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:08 AM
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Not the point. The point is men claim sex is a NEED and without it they go cray cray. But they demand women have less sex, because…reasons. Following this logic men actually want women to be psychologically unstable, cray cray and sex starved? No?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:07 AM
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So you think T is the only hormone responsible for regulating libido? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:04 AM
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But many men say they NEED sex or they will go crazy and shoot up the place (basically). So why is sex a NEED for them but not a need for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:04 AM
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But is sex a dire physiological and psychological need for women or is their abstinence making them a better, more pure person?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:03 AM
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It’s not about the sex. My parents but is of sex is a NEED for women, why isn’t a need for virgin women? Do only men have physiological needs?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:01 AM
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My flair is Crazy Pill
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:00 AM
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What makes male having sex different than a female having sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:59 PM
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Love your post history. Anything else I should know about you other than your man bashing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:34 PM
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lol, I don’t even ask. I go where I want to go. If she wants to organize a date once we’ve been out a few times, she’s welcome. But again, I used to date very differently than how people date today. I invite women into my world, not the other way around. I consider a date a privilege for her. She has one chance to impress me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:12 PM
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She’s not a nightmare because she doesn’t want to eat KFC. She’s a nightmare because she considers going to a cheap place to be disrespectful to her. It shows me the type of person I’m dealing with. If I wanted a demanding bitch to twist me around and make my life miserable, then I’d go look for that. But thanks but no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:30 PM
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lol, you take women complaining as a bad thing? Survivorship bias 101. They are only complaining about the guys they are dating and fucking. Meaning that a guy who doesn’t stick around or is unavailable is not enough of a deal breaker for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:29 PM
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I do indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:20 PM
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No, it’s very relevant! I’ve had women who were unhappy with where I took them on a date. Do you want to know the common denominator with all of them? They were all a nightmare to deal with. You are allowed to be self respecting and refuse to go to KFC. And I’m allowed to say “Bye, Felicia!”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:34 PM
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Women have the same emotional needs as men, but they express them differently. Yes, we men often think all we want is to stick our dick in something and cum, but this is more of a physiological need than anything. It’s like needing to pee or shit or eat something when you are hungry. But have you noticed that most men balk at the idea of sleeping with hookers? Because they want to feel they are desired for who they are (not for their money) and they want the person to also want them. See, when m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:30 PM
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You are free to do whatever the fuck you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:35 PM
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Womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:34 PM
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I can think of 10 dates that are more interesting than a dinner and much cheaper or nearly free. I might even take a date to a cheap burger place just to see how she will react. The women who actually want to spend time with you, will be cool with it. The ones who are think their shit don’t stink and start making demands, this is a good test to see what they are like as a person. Their asses are out of the door faster than they can say their own name. See, most women have never met a man like me…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:48 AM
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Do you respond with the same compassion to guys who vent in this sub or only on posts started by frustrated fatties?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:35 AM
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Many men on this sub love themselves every night before bed. Sometimes multiple times a day. I don’t understand why they say they don’t like themselves or even hate themselves, yet they can’t stop touching themselves. 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:08 AM
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Yeah baby, I’ve been to Montreal. The whole “Canadian women are pure virgins” is the biggest cap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 01:15 AM
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I don’t care about tradition one bit. I’m also not interested in being some skank’s meal ticket. If she that broke that she can’t afford her own meal, I don’t want to looks at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:54 PM
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This reminds me of a thread I read yesterday on the r/Vent sub. The post was by a woman who used to weight 280 lbs and lost like 150 lbs and was upset that all of a sudden men treated her better, she got promoted, and was getting attention. She was fuming that she was the same person as before but somehow changing her shell shouldn’t have resulted in her getting better treatment. I guess a lot of fatties have this brain rot that “fat is beautiful” and “I’m fat and I’m proud of it” that they hear…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:34 PM
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Again, you are living in their reality not yours. It’s a tough concept to explain to someone who lives vicariously through TikTok and Insta videos. I don’t care what attractive women are spoilt with. I don’t give a fuck about what they think or say. You do obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:51 PM
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You are coming at this from the frame of believing that you HAVE to take the woman out on an expensive, traditional date. Despite what she may or may not demand or, probably more accurately, what YOU think she may or may not demand, the person who asks out is the decision maker. You can choose to enter her reality OR you can invite her into yours. You are more than welcome to try and get women in the society approved way of trying to impress them with expensive dates. If you impress her enough, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:32 PM
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That just reads like another Nice Guy rant that puts women on a pedestal. See, when a woman is a on a pedestal she doesn’t even want to be, all she can do is look down on you. She can’t possibly look up to you from her high pedestal you put her on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:27 PM
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Why are you asking him if he’s ever met a hot, lustful girl who is dynamite in bed? Does OP read as someone who’s even seen a vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 01:26 PM
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He needs your permission first.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 12:41 AM
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He is asking for your permission to stop caring about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 12:40 AM
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I mean if you have to check with women if you are allowed to ignore women, then what are we talking about here?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:54 PM
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Especially the man in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:53 PM
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It’s the Hot, Not Crazy, Single triangle. You can have only two of the three at any given point. If she’s hot and single, she is definitely crazy. If she’s non-crazy and hot, she is definitely not single. With porno girls, I bet they are on the hot and single side of the triangle, and that means that they are crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:52 PM
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Because Biden’s policies were so amazing. People everywhere are tired of the woke agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:43 PM
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Your claim is that only incels and neckbands are anti-woke. And I’m saying is that you are living in your Reddit bubble and that the average person is tired of woke ass losers telling them what to think and how to act. You not seeing beyond your nose is your own problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:58 PM
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I got a news flash for you, Walter Cronkite. Trump got reflected. Daniel Penny was acquitted. It is the beginning of the end of Wokeism. People are tired of this BS and aren’t having it anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 03:56 PM
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Yeah but you are conflating “tall, muscular, high status” with “sexually arousing male”. This is the fallacy a lot of RedPill people make when speaking of hypergamy. Originally the term meant someone who marries into a higher station/class in life. TRP expanded that beyond the original definition to mean that a man MUST be absolutely superior in all aspects of life. He must be taller, stronger, richer, better travelled, better read, more educated, more sexually experienced, more of everything. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:17 PM
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2000+ years? Try 10,000+ or since the agricultural revolution when humans started valuing land as property. And since, land was passed down to the oldest child, the man has to ensure that the child was indeed his. And for that to happen, women started being treated like property. There is good evidence that in prehistoric m, tribal societies, everything was communal including sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:53 PM
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You obviously know everything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:24 PM
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Right! Thats why there are soooo many skinny people!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 01:11 PM
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Your error is believing that the men who espouse those views actually want to be successful at dating. I mean they do, just like a fat person wants to be thin, but they don’t want to GET thin, because it involves a ton of work, eating boring, low calorie food and going to the gym instead of sitting on the couch. And just like most fat people prefer to have society cater to them by increasing the size of seats on a plane rather than lose weight, so are those romantically unsuccessful guys. They w…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:52 AM
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Well, you may want to work on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:26 AM
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Men get pissed off at hot women all the time, but it all comes from the people that they want something more than she might want. At the end of the day, this is human nature and you being so judgmental is certainly not working out to your advantage. It’s like getting mad that water is wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:26 AM
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Think how pathetic a man must be to turn into a groveling wimp just because he hasn’t had pussy in a few months. And you guys think women want to fuck that? They are all looking for the guys who have options and who others want. How is being so pathetic actually worked out for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:35 AM
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Modern men are extremely needy and they are emotionally dependent on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 02:05 AM
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The real question is do men care about and value themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 08:10 PM
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I agree that the common denominator is the person in the mirror. But I think you are pathologizing men by saying that the cause of their failure is their terrible personalities. By and large, the cause of failure is their inability to like and love themselves first. Their inability to give themselves approval and value. They think their ONLY way to feel confident about themselves is if women give them approval first. But that’s a huge thinking error. Confidence cannot be dependent on other rando…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:22 PM
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I don’t know about other men, but I’m 43, I take extremely good care of my body and looks and tend to be mistaken for someone 7-8 years younger. Just to be sure you understand, I don’t go to the gym and take care of my appearance for women. I do it because I like to treat myself like a king and I know that one of the positive side effects of that is the attention I get from women. I’m married so I don’t date, but I like flirting innocently and often get hit on younger (and older) women when I’m …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 05:17 PM
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I’ve been looking for sexually liberated sluts like her all my life. One of my main sexual fantasies was to organize a gangbang but never happened :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:16 AM
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How many men on earth do you think that all these qualities you listed actually co-exist in at the same time?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:11 AM
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All the suffering men go through and complain about incessantly day after day, week after week, month after month and year after year is literally caused by a moist hole in piece of flesh about 2-3 inches in diameter. If scientists found a way to separate that hole from the woman and you could take the hole with you, you’d all be happy as clams. Now substitute this monster hole that is causing all your suffering with something like “heroin” or “cocaine” or “meth” or “opioids” and start thinking …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 01:09 AM
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So it’s okay for women to express interest when they want to only have sex. But other than that, women don’t any other reason to express interest in a man? And you are accusing men of only being interested in sex? Am I taking crazy pills here?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:02 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:47 PM
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Again, case in point. How can I take anything you say seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:41 PM
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That’s human nature, it’s not exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:07 PM
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Wrong. Women have never and will never want guys they CAN get. They always want the guys they CAN’T get. Overly available nice guys who cater to their every whim is literally the opposite of what creates attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:36 PM
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Dating doesn’t work for most men because they give their power away. As simple as that. Dating app dynamics are just a symptoms of this. They are not the cause. As long as men cry to the heavens that they can’t life without pussy, they will continue to suffer the results of their choice to be simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:14 PM
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Of course! If you listen to women they would make themselves into the biggest victims since the Jews were kicked out of Egypt. It’s non stop playing the victim although they’ve never had more power and sources of income than they have today.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 09:12 PM
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Dude, you are not picking a major in college that will determine your career path for the rest of your life. If your objective is to find out what like, then go out with that objective. Speak to and date as many women as you can so you can determine what you like exactly. I feel like I’m speaking to someone with autism here. It shouldn’t be this complicated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 05:23 PM
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Just more self defeating bullshit. More or less, 90% of your problem is the negative thoughts you have about yourself. It has nothing to do with your external circumstances. There are tons of guys that look exactly like you and they are dating women. I’m sure you can go outside and find enough samples to prove that statement true. So objectively speaking you are not so ugly that no human being can ever look at you. And objectively speaking, your physical attractiveness is sufficient to attract a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:27 PM
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No (straight) man has ever said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:45 AM
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I mean women also say Lizzo is attractive, so I don’t know if I can take any of yall seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:30 AM
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No man had ever had sex in his teens or twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:28 AM
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I’m 43 and I get hit on by women half my age. Women say a lot of things. 99% of those things are total bullshit and you or any man listening to that BS, please do so at your own peril.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:24 AM
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This has nothing to do with morality and I don’t know why you guys keep harping on this. There are actual studies pointing out that men with criminal records tend to have more sexual partners and more children fathered than their strait laced counterparts. On the other hand, being a complainer, especially when it comes to dating, is the most self defeating, self sabotaging thing you can do. It literally tells women you are a pussy who can’t get laid. So you have to sit down and make a decision w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:11 AM
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I’m not sure if this is a serious question or not, But if you are an adult person, you sit down and make a decision about what you want before you leave the house. If you want a burger, you don’t go looking for pizza places, yeah? Does this concept make sense to you? If you are a virgin and have never even spoken to a girl, then what you want might be to find a slut to take your virginity. Yeah?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 11:07 AM
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lol, violent criminals often father more children and have more sexual parents than the average man. This is not the flex you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:44 AM
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Or maybe you are just biased because you were never one of these guys and therefore you project onto others that nobody can ever get laid. Get over yourselves. Instead of hating on people who get laid, figure out how to get some yourselves instead of waving these asinine theories of some super mega uner Chad that is the only man that somehow has fucked every female in the world depriving you of your fair share. Yes, there are men who get a disproportionate amount of sexual partners. There are wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:33 AM
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I have no idea what you think about yourself and how women have been treating you. But if you say you are sure dumbest man alive, who am I to argue with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:04 AM
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I cannot make anything out of your word salad.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:01 AM
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You hang out with weird people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 02:01 AM
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Eh, you had it going in the first part, but then went to the kids and shit. No, men want a dirty bisexual slut who will bring other women for him to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:53 AM
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Is this the gangbang lady?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:51 AM
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Porno ladies with huge tits and ass and tiny waists who can toggle up a 10” cock no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:51 AM
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lol, OP you seriously underestimate just how much of your inner state is on display through your body language, mannerisms and style of communication. Human beings have been communicating with each and sizing each other up for hundreds of thousands of years; way before language was invented. You believing that you can truly hide your desperation and neediness and low self esteem is literally hilarious. I mean maybe you can. But I guarantee you it takes more energy and effort to hide those things…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 01:32 AM
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Done
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:27 PM
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Done
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:27 PM
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Well, what? You want me to explain to you too?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:12 PM
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Happened to a female friend of mine. Started dating some guy who was pretty cheap and never paid much for her. At the same time, he’d talk about all the money he spent on his last two exes that left him broke. I guess he was a total simp and eventually decided to wise up. Friend was super upset (she is really obsessed with money due to being poor when little) that the guy never offered to buy her anything expensive or pay for trips after he spend tens of thousands on his exes. They eventually br…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:42 PM
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Oh yeah, I know exactly what his secret is. Too bad you can’t recognize it but happy to explain to you in a lot of detail. Edit: Okay here is the explanation in detail. Basically in any relationship with a woman you can either lead or be lead. The way most of dating advice for men is designed, it encourages men to be led by the woman and for the woman to lead. Here is an example. Have you ever tried to find out what cuisine a woman might like so you can take her to that type of restaurant? Or fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:45 PM
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So why don’t you ask him to teach you? Although, the answer might be staring you in the face from your own comment, but the question is, are you willing to play the dating game or are you the type of guy to not even acknowledge that there is a game to be played?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:37 PM
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So who exactly is fucking all these women that you guys think are getting trains ran on?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:29 PM
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You can only become free when you stop giving a fuck about what society thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 06:28 PM
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So how long is your penis if you can fuck a woman from Alaska while living all the way in Alabama? How does that work exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:28 PM
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You mean Eentsell Math?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:26 PM
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Then you haven’t done enough prep work. What you want can change over time, but if you go out not having a clear objective you will always end up going with someone else’s program. Someone else, who had a better idea of what they want and who is screening you for those qualities. And if you are being screened, you are not the screener or the selector.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:24 PM
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Actual data? You don’t say! So the guy who wrote the Bible some off 2,500 years ago had access to all of our modern data that inform him he should scare women to death if being unfaithful to their husbands?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 01:16 PM
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Apparently, according to OP, hoe phase is anything from having sex with a different guy every two weeks to simply putting on a skirt that reveals more than your ankles and making eye contact with a man. What a SLUT!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:52 AM
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Let me get this straight? The average woman goes through a hoe phase and fucks a bunch of men, but men don’t ever get to fuck a bunch of women? So who are these women fucking? The same 5 guys in the entire universe?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:46 AM
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Let me offer a contrasting opinion that might actually blow your mind. By and large, society puts women, who have sex into two categories. The first category, society tells women: “If you choose to have sex with a man for your own reasons, because you enjoy sex or because you find the man funny, or you think he’s cute, or you like his style, or you like his shitty bar band, or because you are lonely and were just feeling extra horny that night, and you have sex with him without expecting anythin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 11:44 AM
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Men are simultaneously in desperate need of touch, love and sex, without which they will not die but go mentally insane AND at the same time absolutely unwilling to put actual effort towards getting the love and sex they so desperately need. Why is the question?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 03:07 AM
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There is a a lot of truth in that statement, but there are also a lot of caveats. Here is one big piece of the puzzle that men always miss because they are brainwashed by feminized and outdated dating advice. What men almost always miss is that: people never want what they can get and only want what they can’t get. So while your statement isn’t true in all cases, it is usually in a very specific case where it does become true. Think about the “romantic” experience of the average, clueless chump.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 10:57 PM
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More or less I agree, although I could add more color to your post, but I can also talk/write about this for days. If anyone wants a practical approach, I would recommend this specific podcast episode where Dr David Burns, the psychotherapist who developed cognitive behavioral therapy, actually works with a live patient having these exact same negative thoughts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/feeling-good-podcast-team-cbt-the-new-mood-therapy/id1171155453?i=1000680537315 But back to your …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:04 PM
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Do you judge a fish’s worthwhileness based on its ability to ride a bicycle? Or a monkey’s sexual desirability on its ability to breathe under water? What is the purpose of judging a man’s sexual desirability on his college major? How did humans mate before the concepts of money, education and wealth were even invented? Did you know that humanoids have been roaming the earth for hundreds of thousands and maybe even millions of years and have been procreating for much longer than any of those con…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:09 PM
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It’s kind of funny that you would ask that question and then go on to reveal that you actually have NO idea what you want. You: “Oh, I want a ONS but a serious relationship is okay too. I definitely don’t want kids, but if she wants kids, it’s okay, I will have kids.” I keep telling men that they will have much more success dating if they actually figured out exactly what they want, not only the type of woman, how she looks, how she behaves, how she treats him and what values she has, but also t…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 04:14 PM
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