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Women will fuck guys they don't think is hot if they're sexually inexperienced. It's like climbing a ladder or a rachet. Which is why guys will have sexual experiences in college but then in their mid-20s the spigot turns off until the gold diggers show up in their 30s. They were a rung on some college girl's ladder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 03:51 AM
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I think "confidence" is a code word for being dismissive of other people's (particularly low value men) feelings and needs. Women naturally view male competition as some sort of system that doesn't apply to them, and so when men trash and put down and dismiss other men women just think it's part of the game or they deserved it or something. But actually, men didn't ask for this system and even a lot of powerful men do what they do in order to appeal to women. Confidence is not the same thing as …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/22 03:33 AM
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Men don't get away with cheating unless they're a hot, wanted guy. Ironically, not hot, not wanted men don't even get sex if they're loyal through and through. Meaning that adultery/cheating is not that important to women in the sexual sense. When their precious beta provider cheats and threatens her nest's accoutrement acquisition channel, that's a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 11:02 PM
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Jesus, dark triad is a very well established psychological concept. Your ignorance of a topic is not a argument for skepticism. Just admit that women like bad boys. They obviously do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/22 10:50 PM
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If you were married, yes. If you're not married, hell no. But keep in mind apparently women can't even take their man's name in marriage so I don't think marriage means what it used to. Now, as for sex, among non-religious people especially an unspoken rule of marriage is that if you absolutely need sex and can't get it, then get it someway on the condition you'd never ever get noticed by anyone. Having an emotional affair counts as getting noticed. This is a common attitude that more women are …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/22 07:53 PM
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Then when you hint their husbands might find someone better someday they rage out and talk about dick size.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/22 05:06 AM
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You bring up an interesting point that women want social prominence within marriage... but they're often still marrying INTO status. Which is just a joke. Also, I hate the phrase partner in crime. I know what you mean, but I feel like this is a thing that comes from women and their screwed up sexual attraction. Like, they want to be along for the ride (safely) with a criminal. More than anything, that's what their vagina wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 06:49 AM
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No, most women seem to not participate in hook-up culture. That feeling has been expressed by women here, but multiple interpretations of the data show that it's just not possible. Women don't have enough sexual partners, on average, for the majority to be involved in hook-up culture. Nevertheless, you'll still get accused of having a small dick if you call out women on certain issues. I think this sort of reflects how women basically view men, even though it doesn't necessarily reflect their pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 05:00 AM
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I think part of the issue with feminism and marriage is when some women become obsessed with social prominence. Marriage is not really about social status. For nuclear family societies, it's about a specific, asymmetrical set of guarantees between a man and a woman reflecting their slightly different emotional and biological needs from each other. I was just debating women taking a man's last name for marriage. I've realized there's a bigger issue that is almost never discussed related to social…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 04:53 AM
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I'm now getting more and more of an impression of the discourse in this sub. It seems to be along the lines of: PREMISE - the big picture of relationships in modern society is ugly and horrifying. Response #1: Yeah, so guys, the big picture of relationships IS really ugly and horrifying. Response #2: So what? Do you have a small dick? We women don't care, we're getting everything we want and if things are bad for other people it's your problem losers. Response #3: Well, in my current situation r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 03:53 AM
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This just sounds like the average woman and the type of man she's usually into.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/22 12:48 AM
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This seems like cope. I have multiple female relatives who divorced and after 50 they find it almost impossible meet people and have given up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/22 01:44 PM
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That's a good one: jokes about spouse. Lack of respect. But only if constant and at an extreme. I don't think bickering or criticism is a sign of a bad marriage per se. I know about a some crazy people that fight just about all the time but couldn't possibly leave each other for some damn reason. Importantly, while they fight ALL the time and call each other nasty names IN PUBLIC, they DO NOT talk badly about each other behind each others' backs.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:02 PM
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Check body language. Imagine a straight line from neck to base through the spine. When the pair are together, do the lines lean into each other, or lean apart? People can smile in their pictures but still lean away (clear sign of lost affection). Are they together? Or do they seem to live separate lives somehow? Like always doing tasks in other rooms or having afternoon or evening hobbies apart from each other? If you can, ask if they are having sex. I've had dozens of men confide in me (I was d…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 08:01 PM
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I am being facetious in saying this, but it really does seem like the only women actually in relationships with men around here are women with real dunces. Maybe that's the key to attracting someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:43 PM
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I guess it's what makes it worthwhile for a man to marry a woman who's "settling" for him, because he'd keep forgetting to go to the doctor otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:03 PM
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I'm amazed by all the other replies to my comment that miss the point and seem to not know what sub they're in.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/22 04:03 PM
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Reality is real. Actions have consequences. Values are subjective, but are fulfilled in an objective environment. There is no objective basis for values, so it is never appropriate to uphold one set of values over another and that means "cultural" and "social" values cannot be imposed on people. Cultural relativism is BS because it's just a larger power looking at how a smaller power exploits its powerless. Many moral values derive from the nature of reality. It's live and let live, objectivity …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 07:12 PM
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What is with this meme in this sub about women making doctors' appointments for their husbands. Like, is this just an artefact of women only being attracted to total idiots? I kid. But seriously, my guy friends make doctors appointments, go to the dentist, change their oil, pay their taxes, pay their bills, mow their lawns. What is this?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/22 07:08 PM
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Yep. Monogamy is a compromise, a waystation for low status women, to take advantage of guys they detest as they float up to their idea of the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:43 AM
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In any event, have single friends? I make over $70K per year, I will listen and am in touch (believe me) with the differences between men and women. I will listen to emotional concerns. I will lick pussy and finger G-spots. I will wait until I cause an orgasm before even putting my dick in. I will share our wealth. I will be a fantastic, loving, tough and empathetic father. Will your single non-uber-obese friends pick me? No, they won't. I'm not a millionaire NBA star or rancher or Nashville fuc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:41 AM
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The stat comes from online dating data and is reflected by the reality of marriage stats among millennials. It doesn't help to pick and choose which primates humans relate to. We see that human women are highly selective and would rather die alone then have families with below 80% men (if given a choice). And this reflects the reality of VIOLENT primates and humans are certainly violent primates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:37 AM
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Professional = top 3% of status. Of course marriage happens. Divorce happens a lot too. And marriage often doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:32 AM
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Yeah, you don't get it. Women will have sex then conclude, "you're not good enough in spite". Sex is more prevalent than relationships in the Tinder age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 02:31 AM
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In my 20s I dated about two women a year. 1-6 month relationships (6 months happened all of three times). Was told things like, "you're not ambitious enough for me". I made more money than her, but the way she explained it she was aiming for some kind of doctor that would also then try to be some top surgeon at a famous hospital or something she couldn't easily define. In another relationship, once I cried when my dad died, for about 10 minutes. A week later she left me because she felt unsafe a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:54 PM
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I know you don't have time to read, so I'll repeat what I've wrote elsewhere. Alpha is the guy who dominates without having to fight, because 90% of the guys who'd fight him would definitely lose. So, he dominates through playful condescension. He can be challenged for dominance, but the stakes are extremely high. Betas, in contrast, constantly fight and mate guard, have to prove dominance because they're constantly shuffling up and down from like the 86th percentile to the 91st percentile, up a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:36 PM
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Yeah, it's gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:32 PM
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Maybe. I know of many who look just fine. I don't see the point of shaming them. The shaming reflex seems to be related to wanting to get what they're saying out of the public discussion, to socially delegitimize it. I don't agree with that way of doing things. However, I think we would agree that what they offer is a scam preying on a desperate audience. I'm still waiting for more women to admit that there are a lot of men out there who are suffering. Just, the way women work that would open th…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:18 PM
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Humans do seem to be more like some of the more violent and advanced primates, and you should check for updates on what you think. I understand that many assumptions about bonobo monogamy, for instance, has been disproven by further evidence. The 5% means this. When women are given the choice, only about 5% of men in a dating environment appeal to them as sexually interesting options. That doesn't mean there aren't a million and one other places where sex and relationships could occur or be rele…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:14 PM
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How women want to be treated is not the same as what makes them feel aroused. Women often seem very confused and conflicted because of this. However, we're seeing that most men and women are not entering into sustained relationships so I'd say at the very least no one is figuring out what they want. Alpha and beta are usually discussed in terms of wolf pack behavior, where beta is interpreted as losers. That's not true for primates, where alpha and beta are clearly understood social categories. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 10:09 PM
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I think there are far far more women who want men who genuinely can move mountains, afford to pay for any life problem, have a big nice house, have status, afford extravagant vacations, offer genuine, guaranteed quality of life over some guy with a fake Rolex who rented a Lambo. It's about not ever having to worry, and then on top of that feeling like almost all reasonable whims can be gratified. That's like 1% of men who can afford that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:41 PM
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Right, so 20% of men have 80% of power and therefore qualify for sex as potential protectors. Among these men, 20% have 80% of the sex. 5% of the men are having most of the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:39 PM
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Yeah, on premise of my OP is that my explanation of the current dating catastrophe does have room for like some people who are just happy together without any of the games or baggage, but they seem to be a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:28 PM
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Yeah, like I said I think it was just a cultural thing over there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:23 PM
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My perspective on this is that the whole deal with the alpha, in addition to wanting his baby, is that the alpha in particular is how women contextualize their own status hierarchy competition. Watch the The Bachelor with the premise that the bachelor could be anybody and all you need to know is he is the tall hot king who is at the undisputed top of the pyramid and it's a contest for which woman deserves him the most, including which women can come in 2d, 3rd place etc. and that this dynamic al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:17 PM
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That pattern is something I've seen. I don't know if these women then sleep with other men on the side or not. In America, inconclusive. I used to live in Japan and the shy guy and confident woman pattern 100% involved sleeping with younger, hot tall men while the husband is at work. It was not rather common, it was extremely common. Maybe that's just some weird thing in their culture, but I think the shy guy thing only satisfies part of what a confident woman wants and her claiming that guy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:07 PM
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Fewer than 10% of Americans make more than $100,000, but it's not enough money to appear "rich" (spend money on basic things totally freely, in addition to affording genuinely expensive things). So if we're saying there's room in the top 20% category for men to appear attractive, from income we're talking about people who make $70,000 or more. The red pill premise is you have to hit on multiple points, with a heavy social element. My point is that it's not necessarily hard to, say, learn social …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:49 PM
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Looking at semi-matriarchal tribal societies, there are three categories of men. The lone alpha, who is the object of the reproductive imperative. A beta house husband, deeply connected to a woman's status in the tribe (power couple), who is a protector and has strength and power. Finally, transactional sex and attention for resources from the third class of men. The economic element, where sub-beta males can buy their way into sex, is where humans would differ from primates. High status women e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:42 PM
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So, even though it's not hard to go to the gym and get skinny and build some muscles, the sad reality is that genuinely a majority of guys don't do it. Even though six figures doesn't seem like a ton of money (not "rich") it's an extreme minority of men who have that yearly income. So there are a lot of guys who can level up into the game of the top 20% of men because the bar is actually pretty low, and in this sense the advice applies. But the hard truth is that men and women can't simply just …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:33 PM
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Not everyone can be an astronaut is the same thing as most people are failing to be astronauts. If you want to just remove monogamy from the equation, but still make assertions about failure, then I guess we have to think in terms of happiness. I think there's a lot of evidence for most people being unhappy or unsatisfied with regard to companionship and romance. So I don't know what your point is except to maybe try and keep the reckoning of this reality out of a social space where it could aff…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:25 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:22 PM
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That's what I addressed. Alpha just comes from this observation that women are very exclusive with their sexual interest, but beyond that it has been poorly understood. I think we never reckoned with how devastatingly exclusive female interest was because it's sort of depressing. The evidence was there (girls falling for the "lug" or all liking the bad boy, obsession over Elvis, the Beatles, even Liszt), but only online dating stats have given us a peak into the numerical reality applied to norm…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:18 PM
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In this case, the application is that 20% of men have enough physical and social power to dominate 80% of men. That's what's at play with 80-20 in the sexual dynamic. I do NOT think 80-20 applies to how much sex is happening. Maybe 20% of top men are having 80% of the sex in that category. This conforms with the 4.5% of men who receives likes on Tinder. In generally, the perception of the top 20% of men are winning on Tinder and 80% are losing is wrong. It's more like 5% are winning, 80% are los…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:16 PM
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Your argument is almost: "Me and my circle are doing fine so you're not allowed to complain."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:09 PM
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Okay, -tire screech-. Your argument for why it's not bad is that half of marriages fail and one third of men have never even had sex (of the current generation and culture). How could you even argue that monogamy is what humans are designed to do with numbers like that? And as I said, the real picture is much worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:08 PM
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I would qualify this by saying that dating is a game meant for men who are in the top 30% category, and are willing to play that game for the sake of the game (not for love, companionship, etc.). That it's a game about status, not romance. If that's the opening condition, and men know that the looks, rank, personality, status, fashion process is a harsh and highly competitive game for a minority of men to play, then coaching about it is fine. It's like people who talk about sports betting, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:06 PM
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Divorce rates have improved recently because the number of people even getting married in the first place has collapsed. And the majority of marriages are reported as unhappy. 30% sexlessness is absolutely horrific, but even that number ignore 30% more of men who rarely or intermittently have sex and largely live as single men. Women are also largely single. And while this used to be taken for granted as just how people live in their 20s, JUST NOW as millennials enter their late 30s, we're findi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 08:04 PM
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Yeah, this is my "blue pill" concession. The slice of humanity that is engaged in constant status games is definitely a minority. I'm pessimistic about what kinds of relationships can occur outside of certain defined social categories (given economic and sexual freedom, I simply can't believe that most women would be satisfied in a relationship with the average guy, they wouldn't choose it). However, the type of women red pill coaches are targeting are a minority slice that are neck deep in the …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:57 PM
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As for your point about red pill coaches, you're totally right. The do sell solutions to men when they know it won't work. That's malpractice. Coaches could have a role if they were clear about who could actually benefit from their "medicine", but most of those men have much less of a desperate need for advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:55 PM
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Healthy gamer is malicious. He's a gaslighter who does not care about the wellbeing of his target audience. He's in it for political reasons because he wants to protect his preferred politics from the influence of categories of men who are genuinely disaffected by the social order. He doesn't care if men are unhappy, he wants to generate a social shaming narrative that categorizes men's issues as entirely the fault of toxic men, and therefore insulate society from having to reckon with these iss…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:54 PM
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Where I agree with you, reiterating my post, is that these grifters are wholly within the "tough guy" realm of men with something to prove and ambition to match it. The hobbyfication of status. Unless you're consciously playing that game (I'd compare it to being a semi-professional gambler), then it's going to be unhealthy. However, the statistics are increasingly proving that the "domain of reality" is very unhappy, and the normal fall-in-love-get-married paradigm is never going to be the norm …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:52 PM
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"On this entrepreneurship channel, how did you make money?" Oh, well it was easy, I just had a nepotism hire to a hedge fund where I slowly learned some basic skills where I can earn a top .1% salary by putting in a 45 hour work week and then invest it in funds my family members give me access to. And I invest in real estate in crypto. You can do it too, bro. Anyway... I do think red pill insights are helpful for men to realize that relationships are at best a scam for the majority of men. You'v…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:42 PM
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This is a red pill, in fact. What's wrong with caring about what people think? Isn't that this "just be human" thing people always talk about when they defend the blue pill? The reality that you have to be this exclusive, absolute jackass to qualify for female respect or attention speaks a lot to the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:30 PM
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Are you arguing from the blue pill? Because the blue pill is a joke. It's people living within a facade of normality "playing the game" while the world burns around them and the majority of people having not attained their same outcomes are incredibly unhappy. Largely because the reality of the game would wake people up from bad relationships (where one person is getting more out of the deal than the other).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:28 PM
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I don't know what this even means. Homoerotic is shaming language is is exactly the kind of thing beta males care about and no one else does.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:20 PM
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Yeah because he has power or social cache. Or he's done a really good job of playing on your expectations for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:20 PM
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I think there are far fewer men in relationships than you think. Maybe you're just in a community of people who have relationships and are failing to witness the large number of men who aren't. You also might have survivor's bias. You don't think the men you see are popular or having high-powered jobs, but that's because you're comparing to whoever's above you. Compared to the majority of men, these guys might be closer to the top than you realize.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:10 PM
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RP gurus use shaming language a lot, "lazy, scared to step up," and shaming language is motivating within the beta male competition hierarchy. Betas are terrified of shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:08 PM
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Are you sure? Looks like most people aren't getting married, most people aren't in relationships, more single people than ever, a lot of straight-up virginity. Just, no need to argue it, I'm sure the statistics would show the median man (under 40, for generational reasons) is not usually in a relationship, and has sex intermittently.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:07 PM
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That's a mistaken use of the terms by red pillers. The more accurate understanding needs to come from studies on primates. Beta primates are much more prominent than beta wolves.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:04 PM
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I would argue that women don't actually judge whether a man is objectively confident, their view of a man relates to their reflexive emotional reaction and attraction level to a man, which they then project into his character. By and large, actual power and confidence translate to women being attracted to that and perceiving the guy as confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 07:03 PM
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It's very well defined in primate societies and almost everything we know about human evolutionary psychology and sexual arousal conforms pretty closely to that model. We can deterministically say that human behavior matches primate, especially once we enter the anthropological or sociological realm, but this may be because of a lack of attention studying evolutionary psychology in depth. Naturally, human society is much more complex than ape society, so it's more difficult to draw conclusions. …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:41 PM
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Alpha is about power, and implies the absolute pinnacle of the social structure. However, with the caveat that our attraction and arousal is instinctual, not intellectual, so arousal can be triggered by idiosyncratic things. For instance, the very tall, big shouldered, beautiful man that we all know what we mean by this would simply dominate most men in a fight. To the point of not having any need to even get violent with most men. He could just give them a playful and humiliating noogie. The ab…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:37 PM
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It's not confidence. You have to show lifestyle, position in society (like, your job, but not necessarily in terms of wealth/gold digging), a high standard of strength and fitness, popularity. You can't merely be personally confident and well thought of. If you're a quiet guy in the group, but your social circle is limited through choice and you're self-assured, that's not good enough. You have to be somewhere adjacent to the center of attention. It's almost impossible to get attention from wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:30 PM
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This isn't remotely true, otherwise the median man would be having a lot more sex than what's going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:26 PM
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You're still not understanding that the "when you get to" part practically doesn't exist for most men. And, you're also defining sex in a way that would be contrary to how most women approach it. If sex is so inconsequential, take-it-or-leave-it, why in the hell are so many women so goddamned reluctant to have sex with men even those guys they trust and get along with? Because sex really does mean something.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:25 PM
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It's important to point out that the instincts around "top" men come from tribal settings of 40-200 people. In this sense, the "top" man is literally that. There's only ever supposed to be ONLY one of him. And in that setting it would always be perfectly obvious who it is. Now, there's guys (especially younger guys - see female teachers behaving badly) who have potential to be top guy. Or top-level guys who might get the top spot if for some reason lightning were to strike the top guy. So women …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:25 PM
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There's two layers to sex. The physical need, and the emotional/spiritual need. You can go on a "sex fast" but still know there are men out there who would want your body and also feel happy you want their body. And time, and attention, and affection, and the other things that circle around sex. Women out here are very aggressive about letting most men know - not just that sex isn't available - but that men should understand they are not worthy of love, or attention or affection. And so that one…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:17 PM
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Imagine if you were punished for being gay. Where you are put in house arrest for sleeping with a man and cut off from romance for a year as a result. And then, after you're allowed out to the streets, you have sex and are put in jail again. Meanwhile, you can browse the internet or TV and see maybe gay guys in other countries having all the sex in the world. Or see women and men in your country having all the sex in the world. Not just that, candlelight dinners, romantic cruises. Etc. This is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:11 PM
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Because women don't like having sex with the majority of men and use it in this constant power game to compensate for their inherent vulnerability. In other words, for male-female dynamics, sex becomes fundamentally a power game. If you want to experience this yourself, you would have to face a situation of being cut off from access to sex for long periods of time (starved from it), and then gain access to it by appeasing a manipulative, abusive person. Now, I'm not saying women are abusive. I b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:03 PM
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Women don't care if a man is nice, mean, good, whatever. That's all window dressing. They care about which men are at the pinnacle, and which men are below them. They'll make all sorts of excuses and rationalizations that cast top men as "good", but they grow deeply uncomfortable and even incensed when low-status men get any kind of social credit. Women are the vulnerable sex, so they're hyper focused on rank and status, and they generally stay within their lane when it comes to direct action in…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:53 PM
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Women are also hyper agreeable and compete passive-aggressively. Literally sometimes they dominate other women with eye contact games, and the apex male is always the foil or anchor which drives their power dynamics. Women, therefore, expect to be integrated into adult society where their agreeable, passive aggressive form of competitive dynamics is honored. In other words, men are not allowed to be direct. Women also, through hyper focus on the top men, will maintain a condescending attitude to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:42 PM
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Women don't actually like men. You like women because nature wants women to be able to make use of you. It's a cruel thing, but that's the reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:34 PM
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This has been worked out years ago. Basic features of primate psychology and behavior observed in many ape species. There's usually a top alpha of the tribe, and the alpha grows old or there's a young up and comer. The up and comer has to KILL the old guy, and fight off or KILL other beta contenders. The IMMEDIATE consequence of a new guy winning all those fights, of violently proving dominant status among the men, is that ALL the females clamber to mate with him. That's all that's going on here…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 04:29 PM
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Funny way to talk about women from lower socio-economic classes and can't live the way you do for not having access to education and are experiencing the negative effects of modern dating disproportionately to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 02:25 PM
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People would never have sex if it weren't for biological determinism. And this argument has occurred before. Don't dodge accountability this way. Address the issue another way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:31 AM
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That's a good response, honestly. You're lurking. Cool. Nevermind. Lurk on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:30 AM
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Why are you people here? If you're married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 08:12 AM
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Then don't have sex except with a man you might possibly marry, and then do your best to get married and have kids. Otherwise, I hope you're ready for a splash of cold water.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:31 AM
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The consensus of the younger generation of women is that they're cool with pump and dump culture as long as some of these guys can pony up the cash to pay for their housing long term or some such. Not quite polygamy, but basically polygamy. Women are admitting to the red/black pill, but their take is that the problem is men who refuse to commit. They're agreeing that as long as the allowance is there, then of course pump and dump by high value males is just fine. The highly entitled, privileged …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:27 AM
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Weird you mention you're married. It's like I caught you, and you slimed up to slip away. Like, there was a question, and you low-keyed swapped up the question to avoid answering it. How do women view the men they have casual sex with? (Lol, and have you talked to your husband about your many hook ups? Because most of my exes frankly panicked even when I casually and harmlessly asked them about their pasts)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:20 AM
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Too lazy for popcorn. How is it, sister, that women view the men they have casual sex with? I really hope it's not this thing of he's safe, reliable, doesn't cause drama. Because all that means is you're getting too old for clubbing, you've settled on your core relationships. No, these guys - who are higher value and more exclusive than you - won't commit. But as reliable fucks you feel like you're a consistent part of their lives and turn to them when the "need" arises. You're still looking for…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 07:11 AM
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Okay, I feel you. Young guy I'm guessing. Best luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:50 AM
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I mean, it really doesn't take a lot for a guy to not be considered hot by women. He basically has to be born and roll a die a dozen times and not roll snake eyes the hole time. That said, women also like status, if a guy seems in charge or popular. This kind of guy is still rare. Oh, but hey, if you're just out there bangin' dudes who you just vibe with even though they are GENUINELY all over the board, I guess good for you. You're kind of more like a gay guy. Explain to me why 99% of women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:49 AM
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And you live in an American urban area? And you and your girlfriends are not 8 or 9/10 rare attractive women? And your men aren't pulling you into their social environment of high status/high wealth? If some of that applies to you, you're like a 5% of all humans in America. Otherwise, I highly doubt people around you who are young are out there getting married and having relationships. The data right now is devastating. If they don't know what the word "incel" is, do they even read the internet?…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:23 AM
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Well, those words aside, society is catching up REALLY fast rn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:05 AM
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Yes, of course, I know YOU are but what am I etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:05 AM
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Oooff. So, when you write something observing female behavior - that is from a biological basis and a cultural basis - an almost guaranteed and highly stereotypical response is "But in MY personal experience I don't do that, so blah blah whatever you're saying I don't hear it, you can't shame ME and sort me into an unflattering social category." So, in an effort to accommodate women who would say, "I don't just fuck hot guys all the time," I made allowance for women who are not highly sexually a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 06:04 AM
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In other words, yes, I have no interest in delving into the culturally and socially constructed bullshit this current generation of women have created to rationalize their autonomic sexual behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:28 AM
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Yeah, this was dealt with years ago. It's called "the hamster". Your vagina wants very exclusive, top level hot guys. They want to fuck as many women as possible. Women like to fuck hot guys during estrus. They seek more stable guys, who they like to fuck, but very conditionally, during the rest of the month when progesterone dominates their bodies. Because their bodies are choosing this destructive (well, from the point of view of rational people in modern settings) cycle, and because women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:28 AM
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All of the data which has ever been collected from dating sites plus the entirety of 20 years of being in the adult world and seeing a variety of situations among 1000s of people. I don't know, does the NY Times need to get involved. Do you seriously not realize - as someone who has apparently rode cock on multiple fuckbois - that you are genuinely uninterested - 0% - in the majority of men? Go out in the street and count. Guys you'd be in a committed relationship with (and fuck if they were rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:09 AM
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It's very simple. The majority of men want to and will have sex with the majority of women. Also, in most of these cases, men would be willing to commit and have a relationship. However, the majority of women would not want to have sex with the majority of men. Women are picky. They make men work very hard for sex. But if they meet a very attractive guy, who are only a small percentage of men, they will drop their standards and have sex with them almost immediately without conditions. So, in gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 05:03 AM
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Then why is almost all media a massive pity party for the thousand and one white people problems afflicting women? Oh, I see, women have this problem of "society" expecting them to do all the self-destructive behavior they complain about and blame on men. And then blame men for complaining even a little!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:14 AM
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The problem men have is women. There are many highly competitive dog-eat-dog men, but as many of them as there are, they're a minority. Still other men are afraid of those men and so don't show emotion, don't help each other for reasons of appearances (and MORE women, proportionally, than men, punish men for showing emotion). But there are a lot of men wanting to help other men. The problem is what we call the blue pill. Men are so desperate, so eager to be approved of or accepted by women, who …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:11 AM
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I've been convinced that the natural socio-economic conditions for human tribes include women having multiple men for multiple purposes in their socio-sexual orbit, and part of what makes this work is that men hands down just all want sex really badly. Women don't want to close the door sexually on a lot of men, even if they have no intention of ever sleeping with them. The door needs to stay open for pragmatic reasons, and so women don't like to tell men their not interested. Although, I've kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:26 PM
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Or nature has tuned female arousal to overly react to men who are very obviously at the heights of attractiveness. Just like it has tuned men to have an overwhelming, constant appetite for sex (that most of them will never fulfill). It's meant to produce outcomes in a certain setting, not make us happy or work with our reasonable selves. At this point mostly I'm bothered by the women who are in denial about this and are acting like there's still a scam left to run on the backup plan guys as if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:23 PM
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Confidence + Fitting-In = Leader You can fit in quietly. You can be confidently alone. If you're fitting-in but come off as confident, you're basically the leader. And that's what women want. The guy in charge, the top guy. It's why Yoga instructors are so desirable. Even if it's a small group, even if he was given formal authority (it's not natural confidence), a guy in charge can trigger arousal in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:17 PM
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I promise you that if these guys are sexually active and had a chance to sleep with Angelina, they all would. She's also very old now, so make sure you ask about like her Lara Croft days.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:12 PM
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You ruined the "nah-uhn" moment. I don't even know what women are trying to do by being in denial about loving Chad so much. We non Chads are NOT coming to rescue them when the ride is over, in part because when that time comes most of us will STILL not be good enough to be the rescue bux guy. In any event, we've seen enough and we're out. To tell you the truth, I'm sensing especially younger women starting to admit to the reality more. What they're asking for now is pretty consistent: Chad poly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:11 PM
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This is just wrong. Women almost never reply to most men, and almost never select most men. You can't compare the data sets. Also, you CANNOT ask women what they want, because they don't know. Attraction is practically autonomic. When psychologists actually conduct proper studies and measure EEG and so forth, women are pretty highly attuned to raw physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:06 PM
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In the old days, there were more widows than spinsters. My experience with women like this (say, in their 60s), including a couple spinsters, is that they're up front very kind and open but scratch the surface and they're extremely bitter, almost hateful. They want excuses to find something you've done wrong so they can take out their bitterness on you by yelling at you. As for women in their 40s, 50s, I think it depends on how they got there. Women who were crazy sluts in their 20s and 30s may …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 05:03 PM
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"I don't know or care if Chad is well-liked by other women" You're right. Your brain does know if a guy is popular with other women, and you've admitted it. You've observed that there are a set of signals and vibe he gives off that seems to trigger the desire to fuck. You're trying to describe what those signals might be, and it's hard because desire doesn't come from your conscious mind. No, women do not sit and think to themselves that guys whom other girls like must be the best, and then go o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:54 PM
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Never ask a woman what she prefers. When a woman feels attraction or arousal, it just happens and is a consequence of something going on in a part of the brain outside of conscious awareness. It's an emotional and physical sensation. Women are familiar with what their attraction is like, but they are not logically connected to the on/off switch and will not be able to tell you how it works. However, if a man in a club seems to draw a lot of attention from other women, and he's not below average …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:41 PM
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Women are the ones who primarily believe that a man's years of investment and giving aren't good enough to keep the marriage because they're "bored" and get grossed out by the reality of his sexual needs as a man (whom they chose to marry). Women will constantly ruin a man's life in spite of how much he gave. And women seem like, in most cases, they only want to be giving and invest in a man if: 1) He is way out of her league (and so has options and other women chasing him too) 2) She is still i…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:33 PM
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So feminist dating strategy hasn't given you results and now all you people are coming here as a dating advice place. Here's my advice: the man you're talking about is way out of your league. But he'll still have sex with you. This is what the majority of you women are doing nowadays. There is no way to not get traded in. Younger women are more highly desired and these guys you're chasing are by definition men with options. And you will never get any younger, but you will keep aging. I would say…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:27 PM
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Sounds like you're saying that "Chad" is: 1) A guy who gives off a vibe that other women have pre-approved of him, so implicitly your "chemistry" is attuned to chasing after what other women have picked. 2) The rest of your paragraph is a list of excuses which don't seem to contribute to the understanding and are instead classic shaming. As in, you are offering signals to other women that there's a social price to pay if they pick the guy you're shaming. You couldn't prove that guy more right if…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 04:16 PM
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