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One certainly doesn't see feminists giving much credit to John Money for coining the term. But you're right: the core idea of modern feminism was developed by a misogynistic male sexpest. (which is why they in many cases now have a problem with fitting their theory to trans/non-binary/gender-nonconforming people). Absolutely false. The reification of gender is precisely what allows gender-feminism (anti-TERFism) to ignore sex and accommodate transfems in women's spaces. Gender-nonconformity, mea…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/09/24 11:12 PM
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If the "male gays" covers everything from bikinis to burkas, then literally anything you wear is men's “fault.” We treat you like sex objects because you are sex objects. You're also many other things, but that's one of the things that you are. And when a woman looks at her man as though he is a sex object, that is like the biggest W in the world. What would it take for you to ever feel that way? Because there'd be absolutely nothing wrong with that—unless you were already preconditioned to thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:46 PM
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Oh that was obviously true about McKinnon. If you ever listen to her talk about the porn industry, it's just sooo over the top with kidnapping, trafficking, coercion, constant rape and battery... like every woman in porn got there via Epstein Island Elementary School. I mean, sure, they probably came from kind of shitty families, but they left those families and went into porn their damn selves. MacKinnon is like, "you can't have that—porn means perpetual lobotomized rape in ten dimensions."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:06 PM
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/r/EverydayMisandry07/09/24 06:34 PM
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Is that how to them apart? TIL...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:50 AM
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Mostly it's femcels. But sometimes it's "if even my own [insert male relative] would do that, so would any man."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:26 AM
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ask any guy on the planet about post nut clarity There's a surprising variety of ways that term is used, but I personally have only encountered it in reference to “internalized fap-shaming.” Also, TIL the Japanese-language equivalent: kenjataimu, or "sage time." 🎎
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 12:09 AM
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If women can immediately tell that the ugly fat loser is somehow a creep by just giving them a quick glance, then their creep/asshole radar should work well enough to vett against asshole men. Not sure about the rest of this comment, but you sure nailed the landing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:59 PM
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r/menkampf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:49 PM
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The central point is the fear and terror of experiencing potential rape. But that's not actually any indicator of trauma, just of prejudice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:05 AM
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Rape by a stranger is uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 04:04 AM
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There are more men imprisoned for rape/SA than any other crime, many of which are considerably easier to prove. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:57 AM
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I'd make men understand that their sexual arousal is controllable Yeah, and so are your menstrual cramps.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:54 AM
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Women have been taught, pressured, punished, threatened, and shunned around the "necessity" of repressing our sexuality. You're not the only ones!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 03:50 AM
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I don't think society should change; it's been changed. Feminism is what needs to change, into an academically credible movement with the capacity to recognize its own successes (battles already long since won) and failures (they inevitably come with power; get used to that or get back in the kitchen). Stop trying to change society from something it isn't into something much more like it actually already is. Catcalling doesn't “lead to” anything. You think these construction workers just ditch o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:52 PM
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Gender is the problem feminism created, not its solution.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 08:16 AM
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Doesn't work that way. You claim there's justified suspicion, you give the justification.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 08:10 AM
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Hm…. Boys commit more suicide and mass shootings. These are also shown to be socially contagious behaviors. They have been speculated to be, but are too rare (and causally complicated) to have been shown to be. Also worth noting that girls attempt suicide far more often than boys, and that they are now “succeeding” at far greater rates than ever before. Bodybuilding and excessive exercise are more prevalent in men, no? Bodybuilding is. Excessive exercise looks to be more of a problem for girls. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 01:56 AM
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Yeah, and the woman who beat me up for years and had me falsely arrested so her ex could lick her pussy in both bedrooms is still walking free and playing the victim. I could certainly pick her out of a lineup, but nobody gives a fuck. At least your gender affords you the possibility of justice.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:59 AM
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American prisoners are also raped by prison guards so no I don't think it's that different. This is closer to a legitimate comparison than the garbage take of comparing war crimes to prison rape. I still fall apart though because in America, we punish guards who rape inmates. Israel does not punish soldiers who rape civilians. You call them "felons" to dehumanize them and minimize their rape but of course statistically even some felons are innocent of the crime they were imprisoned for. You misu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/09/24 12:50 AM
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Then justify it. How often does catcalling culminate in sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 11:19 PM
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Then I don't think that it is a wild statement that women have every reason to be weary of men. Weary, sure: catcalling is surely aggravating AF. Wary is less justifiable.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:15 PM
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Oh, but you do. Of all the bogus statistics deployed against men, this might just be the most disingenuous and harmful of all. First off, of all criminal charges in America, state and federal, only around 2% go to trial. Most convictions are on pleas to lesser charges; that's just how the game is played and the sausage gets made. What's more, plenty of people languish in jail for a long time on all manner of charges of which they may or may not be guilty. They simply can't afford bail, so stay l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 05:05 PM
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But his original point is that many if not most women have all sorts of resentment toward men, and that this creates resentment pointed back at them...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:20 PM
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Of course rape of prisoners is bad, but it's not like America is on any morally higher ground here. PREA is actually taken pretty seriously, but regardless, there's a huge difference between convicted felons raping each other and state soldiers raping prisoners of war.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 08:56 AM
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Yeah, but it's Uma Thurman...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 08:49 AM
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Hideously Welsh 🤣🤣🤣
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 08:45 AM
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Black men are gay. Don't forget the cooties.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 08:39 AM
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See what happened with the boom in the number of terfs ever since it became culturally permissible to hate disagree with trans women in their social circles. FTFY, and even still, it’s not accurate. Dissent is oftentimes still punished by ostracization, because TERFs, like all radfems, have primarily leftist social circles. Doubly ironic to besmirch TERFs in this thread, on this sub. For not only was TERF coined as an “othering” slur, but one specifically imposed upon dissenters from mainline ge…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 08:39 AM
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Or that men's shelter a few months back... wouldn't want to attract any "mentally unwell" men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 08:22 AM
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Pale, patriarchal penis-persons.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 08:18 AM
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Sundown Towns are alive and well on Nextdoor. AWDTSG is fun too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/24 05:46 AM
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Why would I include gang rape? Social contagion is a completely different phenomenon. Fwiw, though, Wikipedia says gang rape is almost always premeditated.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:13 AM
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If you've paid any attention to western politics you're familiar with how trans women are under overt attack. Literally all you have done here is add the word “trans” to the bog-standard horseshit feminist trope of “Western women under siege.” I don't believe we're in a rape culture. Why should I believe we're in a trans genocide? You know how feminists react when one of us pushes back on their juked stats about IPV and wage gaps, much less their entirely unevidenced conspiracy theories about pa…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 11:25 AM
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A closely related concept to hypoagency is the external locus of control, which basically means what it sounds like: Individuals with a strong internal locus of control believe events in their life are primarily a result of their own actions: for example, when receiving exam result, people with an internal locus of control tend to praise or blame themselves and their abilities. People with a strong external locus of control tend to praise or blame external factors such as the teacher or the diff…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 05:32 AM
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Trans women are men -> men are predators -> transition is just a means to an end -> the end being the invasion of "female spaces" or satisfying some sexual urge Trans men are women -> women are victims -> no sane woman would ever want to be a man -> transition is a result of societal pressure or mental illness It's no secret I'm gender-critical and, as a former intersex boy (now intersex man), especially skeptical of medical meddling with gender-nonconforming youth. So I very much mean it when I…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/09/24 05:21 AM
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If men were problematic because of the socialization and upbringing that males in our culture receive, then trans women should exhibit most of those same problematic characteristics. That's clearly the case. I know of no other group of women that so frequently and openly discusses their desire to choke certain other women with their cocks... or worse. Of course, being animals, our societal constructs can't help but be informed by our biology. Not many people realize that there are two puberties …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 10:04 PM
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TERFs generally strike me as being the sort of radfems who really just hate and/or fear men All radfems hate and/or fear men; TERFs merely deny that men can become women. The other radfems think the only good man is a “former” one, which is arguably more offensive.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 08:26 PM
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For example, trans women are expected by most people to dress or act more feminine than cis women as a way of proving their womanhood. That's not true. Transfems may well expect, demand, or even just prefer that of themselves, but nobody in society is expecting or asking for it. People who accept gender-nonconformity won't care, and those who reject trans identities won't be swayed by the extra performative swish.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/09/24 08:17 PM
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See also https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8829737/, which found girls ~2.5 times as susceptible as boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 07:19 PM
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Anorexia/bulimia and “cutting” are the best-known examples, dating back to at least the 1980s “Social contagion of binge eating”. “Not by chance is the possessed body essentially female.” —Michel de Certeau
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 06:35 PM
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They're more susceptible to social contagion, which might have some overlap with demonic temptations.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:57 PM
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Intimate relationships. Bonded pairs. Oxytocin with others.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/09/24 08:56 AM
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Every time men enjoy sex, women lose.
/r/EverydayMisandry02/09/24 08:52 AM
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Well, this concerned couples, obvs.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/09/24 01:50 AM
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If you pretend to have proof, you have to show it. Yet you've presented nothing. And anything Russian will be completely discounted given their ridiculous corruption. Lmfao, yet you trust Algeria on this??? The tests were conducted almost a year apart in two independent, accredited labs in good standing, located in two different countries, neither of which was Russia. Not that literally everything with any connection to Russia is automatically false and/or fraudulent. 🙄 And Khelif withdrew his c…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 03:54 AM
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That's completely false. There were two tests conducted, there are the statements of his trainer, and there is the proof you see every time you look at him (especially when his junk is bouncing around in his shorts) There is zero proof he is anything other than a man. And it is biologically impossible for any woman to get that androgenized naturally.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 03:01 AM
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No, Imane Khelif has twice tested for XY chromosomes. Even his trainer admits this. I know that women can be tall and strong, as do the female boxers who know the difference between fighting a man and fighting a woman. I'm telling you as an intersex man: there is literally no possible way Imane Khelif is a woman. If he actually was assigned female at birth, that was clearly a mistake.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/24 02:58 AM
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Trans men often talk about "they were suddenly taken seriously when they passed." Taken seriously as what, a rape threat? And similarly "they hit an brick wall of feeling loneliness and demonization once they passed". Yeah, that's because there's no patriarchy but plenty of misandry. If you go on the premise that a trans woman was always a woman, there are things they struggled with similar to boys simply because they were assumed to be a boy. Like what things?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 01:18 AM
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Oh Jesus Christ. Imane Khelif is an XY ♂️; I'd bet my extra chromosome on it. He is so much more androgenized than I will ever be without going on T, and I have two testes, however gimpy. Imane Khelif's testes are intact and fully developed; that's why he hits so hard. His competitors aren't stupid, so they complained and the testing got underway. Two independent tests a year apart came back XY. Algeria is corrupt as fuck too, btw: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1072034/algerian-olympic…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/08/24 01:14 AM
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https://www.asiaone.com/china/chinese-woman-slaps-boyfriend-public-not-buying-her-mobile-phone
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:49 PM
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No, that would be stalker behavior. He shot his shot and it didn't work out. It's whatever; he's in more danger than her anywhere anyway, and he's far more of a risk to her now than a stranger on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:44 PM
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He's statistically more likely to rape her than anybody she might run into on the street.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 05:41 PM
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The other side says trans women were never actually men. Imagine thinking that's somehow less misandrist...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/08/24 04:51 PM
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Don't you mean 101 more ways, bro? 😎
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 08:48 AM
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I'll see you in the breeding cage, brotherrrrrr!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 07:12 AM
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What even is a breeding cage?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/24 02:16 AM
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So who made the original diagnosis?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 06:48 PM
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Remember how we survived Trump already? By the skin of our teeth, and still he would not go. Remember how the right is even more pro-war and pro-Israel, and that Trump is a felon and traitor who staged his own assassination attempt? There is literally no worse or more genocidal OR fascist candidate in the history of our country.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/08/24 05:27 PM
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It's been a while since I've heard that particular flavor of crazy man-hating paranoid nonsense.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 11:26 PM
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Seriously dude where did you see all of this happening? Where were all these old heads turning people off with all of their talk of BPD? To this day I more often see AH called a narcissist, even in DeppvHeard. For the most part the only people who actually know what BPD is either have it, have a loved one who has it, or are a mental health professional. That's it; this whole stigma thing is a myth. The stigma was always within the mental health community itself, not the larger leftist world (or …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 11:16 PM
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Fuckin' based, mang. Before I was with my pwBPD, I was with a woman with obsessive compulsive personality disorder (in terms of attachment theory, that's disorganized versus avoidant). And she thought that morally speaking, and in her ideal world legally, checking somebody else's email should be a federal crime, just like going into somebody's physical mailbox and opening their mail. She registered independent, wouldn't give grocery stores her phone number for a discount, etc. So while my BPD ex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 10:55 PM
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I very much appreciate that thoughtful response. Again, it's tricky: was my ex trying to control me or was she controlling me in the process of trying to do something completely different? I absolutely 100% call it abuse. I don't think I can call it power and control because half the time, it's about being a victim. More than half the time. It's about them being a victim. Now does the victim have control, in a sense, over the alleged perpetrator? Yeah sure, in the cases we're talking about, at l…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 06:01 PM
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Men with personality disorders use this subreddit too genius- they're everywhere because they're people No shit, Sherlock: we were discussing abusive women. Who are also people, I hasten to add, because you keep projecting on to me your own belief that abusive people aren't human. You must think of them as moustache-twirling full-time abusers, just like most borderlines do, so you think it's a dehumanizing insult to state a fact about what a mental health disorder might predispose one to do. Get…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 08:41 AM
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I didn't make this thread to make people with personality disorders male or female feel unwelcome or ashamed. Good on ya. People with personality disorders need intensive therapy as surely as people with schizophrenia need antipsychotics and people with bipolar need mood stabilizers. There are no pharmaceutical remedies for personality disorders, though, so Big Pharma doesn't take much interest in them. It sucks. There are safe spaces for you to vent without fear of judgement and willfully and k…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 07:27 AM
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This has nothing to do with the left. You wouldn't bat an eye if I had been talking about sociopaths, psychopaths, and/or narcissists. Those are the other cluster B personality disorders, the “typically male” ones. Borderline just gets a free pass because it's mostly women who get it. Amber Heard is not some outlier; she's what happens if BPD is left untreated. Just think about it: what sane, mentally healthy person could possibly abuse someone and falsely accuse them? Or honestly even just fals…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 02:01 AM
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It's not ableism. Do some research.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 01:47 AM
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If you want to go on some liberation crusade, go right ahead, but I'm talking about the society that we live in. Shitty ways things are in other parts of the world are no excuse for taking an attitude toward men, TERFs, GCs, and, God forbid, Republicans, etc. as though born criminals here in the West. Nobody is being oppressed here, but some people sure are doing their best.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 01:44 AM
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I lived with a borderline woman myself. It's awful, but here's the thing borderline are super-impulsive and really not great planners, so the notion that they're scheming to gain power and control is a bit off the mark. They will manipulate and control the situation to whatever extent they can in the moment, that's true—that's just something they do no matter what, and if they feel that you're with them, everything's great. I always think of Heath ledgers joker talking about being a dog chasing …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 01:42 AM
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I agree that there's always an instigator, and the instigator is probably usually the same person, but there's a big difference between fighting back and not taking the bait. The Zen genius of Johnny Depp is that he didn't take the bait. He didn't ever take the bait, no matter how hard she tried. And power and control has always been a myth—in fact the founder of the damn Duluth model admitted as much, that they forced that particular theoretical explanation for abuse onto the batterers they wer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 01:21 AM
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Yeah, except I was there in 2000 for the hanging chads. And this is not like any old election after all you know the deal with Trump.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/08/24 01:14 AM
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If you're suggesting a third-party pro-Pal candidate has a snowball's chance in hell, you've got some idiocy of your own to work on.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/24 12:15 AM
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There's no evidence whatsoever of Johnny ever being abusive to a partner. Amber, meanwhile, has been arrested for it, not to mention having a history of hitting her sister and her former best friend.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 12:24 AM
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Abuse is a pattern of establishing control via isolation, threats, and emotional terrorism. That's just Duluth model nonsense. Half of all IPV is mutual, and two-thirds of the rest is female-on-male. Isolation, threats, and emotional terrorism are optional.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 12:21 AM
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To hell with the anti-ableists. BPD is the only condition in the entire DSM that is strictly and reliably correlated with the perpetration of IPV. Its clustermate antisocial personality disorder (aka psycho/sociopathy) and alcohol/substance use disorder are correlated with violence of all kinds, but borderlines only hurt the ones they love. For all the talk of narcissistic abuse, narcissistic abuse is just talk—manipulative, coercive, degrading. Borderlines take that basic formula and add to it …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/24 12:18 AM
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Not in the West.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/24 11:05 AM
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Oppression is a strong word.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/24 08:17 PM
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I've seen where asking your wife a second time after being told no, if successful, counts as coerced sex and thus spousal rape.
/r/EverydayMisandry21/08/24 09:19 AM
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Typically, when someone says, “that's a conservative talking point,” whatever they're rejecting is not actually a conservative talking point. Feminism and queer theory are intimately related; there's no doubt about that. In 2015, Catharine MacKinnon said: “It was obvious to all of us in the early women’s movement that what we live as ‘woman’ is a social construction of male supremacy, and that the notion that it is based in nature is its most pernicious delusion.... Simone de Beauvoir said one i…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/24 07:36 AM
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They will publicly state that they don't believe you and continue treating you as “far right.” I learned this the other day on nothowguyswork when I pointed out that (1) there was never a constitutional right to abortion in the United States and (2) the 14th amendment was not rewritten to include it. I made it clear that this wasn't any sort of anti-abortion argument: I always supported Roe, but it’s simply not factually accurate to say it enshrined a right to abortion. Nope, incel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/08/24 04:49 AM
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What is with you guys and legacies? A civilization is nothing more than a curated accumulation of legacies, dear madam. 🍷🗿🎩 Historically, men have done a lot of “you must keep the children fed, I must impress my hand on millenia as upon wax, for God, glory, and our people.” Few left an enduring legacy, but the overall trend in humanity has been to higher and higher standards of living for those children the women were keeping fed. One of the only possibly profound things I've heard one J. Peters…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:50 AM
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Why not just ask, “would you prefer lots of compliments from chicks you wouldn't date or nah?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 04:13 AM
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Nah we all just high-five and say "boys will be boys" and she probably wanted it and shouldn't have dressed like a slut.
/r/EverydayMisandry18/08/24 09:46 PM
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BLM comes from different stock, but queer theory is to feminism what Christianity (or Islam) is to Judaism: you can tell they're closely related by the shares sacred texts. Nobody else in the analytic-philosophy Anglosphere takes philosophers like Foucault, Derrida, Irigaray, etc. even half as seriously (BLM certainly doesn't). Queer Theory aka “transgenderism” never denied or amended the feminist understanding of patriarchy; it just added heteronormativity and, eventually, cisheteronormativity.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 09:10 PM
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Women have been the majority of voters in America for longer than probably any of us have been alive. If they wanted 20% more seats in Congress, they'd have them. And TERFs literally are just realists about sex, a perfectly valid view that was around long before the trans issue; any feminist who ever disagreed with Catharine MacKinnon that “woman,” the biological sex class, is a patriarchal construct held a TERFy view. TWAW is an unavoidable result of MacKinnon's gender feminism, and since queer…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 08:50 PM
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Nah that's just her first name
/r/EverydayMisandry18/08/24 08:22 PM
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Just triggered the shit out of myself listening to Amber laugh maniacally at Johnny, but it sure reminds me what an awful relationship I'm no longer in!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/08/24 08:18 PM
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Educate yourself: half of all attempted sexual assaults are contemplated by women in parking lots. 🤪
/r/EverydayMisandry17/08/24 02:39 AM
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But what did the child do to trigger that poor woman?? /s
/r/EverydayMisandry17/08/24 01:29 AM
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Very nicely done.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/08/24 01:27 AM
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As tends to be the case for feminists in general, TERFs appreciate the sexual disinterest gay men provide. I've never seen them be targeted in any meaningful sense. Kinda the opposite: it is mostly gay men who write the “Oh, Joanne” tweets and drop the hot takes that get TERFs popping off. If you follow GC Twitter at all, you must know that TERFs—particularly Ultras—have a problem with AGPs, not gays.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/24 08:22 AM
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“UK based users” best missing hyphen of 2024, I'm calling it.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/08/24 07:37 AM
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When the husband does it, it's micromanaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 04:54 AM
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A single IOC-sponsored study doesn't make a myth of the well documented advantage conferred by male puberty. You also gotta wonder how they managed to tell the difference between men and women for the study, since they claim it to be impossible to test for. This part is pretty concerning: “Transgender women’s bone density was found to be equivalent to that of cisgender women, which is linked to muscle strength.” How rapidly must they be losing bone density, given that they are young enough to be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/24 06:20 AM
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I don't know the video, but the article is one of the best things written on the topic. It's bizarre for you to say that TERFs bully and harass gay men, and in particular that they “constantly bombard” Arty Morty with hate; they do no such thing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/24 05:59 AM
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(2/2) Imagine a girl who takes the one-in-four campus rape stat so seriously that she chooses to have her breasts removed and her vagina stitched shut. It's a dramatic oversimplification, but peruse r/detrans and you'll see for yourself: most "trans kids" are teenage girls opting out of the dubious prospect of womanhood in what they've been told is a patriarchal rape culture. Lest they be driven to suicide, of course. We've been told to ignore ROGD and to simply trust that kids not only know wha…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/24 05:39 AM
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(1/2) Everyone should get medication that they need Absolutely, no doubt about that. and people who are at a higher risk of suicide No one has ever even come close to studying the suicide rates of people who had gender dysphoria but did not pursue medical transition. The claim that gender dysphoria causes suicide thus has no evidentiary basis whatsoever. In fact, it flies in the face of all existing scholarly consensus on suicide to attribute any suicide to a single cause (be it an ugly divorce …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/24 05:39 AM
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This is probably a good place to address a particularly egregious lie propagated by trans activists: that anyone opposed to their reckless agenda is a far-right culture warrior, that TERFs aren't radical feminists at all but Phyllis Schlafely–esque tradwife bigots. It's utter horseshit, every bit as much as when any of us have ever been told that by supporting men's rights, we reveal ourselves to be rape-loving Andrew Tate–dick-rider incels. Most of us TERFs and gender-criticals are lifelong lef…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/24 05:38 AM
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SOOOOO based! Thank you 🙏😊 🙏
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 11:34 PM
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If you want me to believe trans people get fired for being trans, I'm going to need some evidence. Any such thing would be straightforwardly illegal in our society (whereas it's not at all illegal to fire somebody for bigotry, hate, or discriminatory beliefs, etc.). A federal crime, just like the wage gap would be. Saying that nobody is opposed to trans rights is crazy. You think out of all people that exist, there's nobody in the world who thinks that trans people don't deserve basic human righ…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/24 01:36 AM
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I've seen lots of trans people talk about having lost their jobs because they're trans. As if. Lawsuit city. I've seen some "accused transphobes" lose their jobs, but it often seems to be more complex than however the media reports it, i.e. the person will have said something anti-trans AND broken safeguarding policies. It's possible that it's sometimes the case, but it's certainly not always the case. That's literally how the whole JK Rowling thing got started after all. I've not seen many (if …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 12:35 PM
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I don't think it's helpful to say that being trans is a mental health disorder, it gives the impression that it's wrong or something that needs to be fixed That's what's going to happen when you insist that if society doesn't provide the medical interventions you demand, you and/or other people's kids will commit suicide. People who aren't deeply ill do not predict a genocide made of suicides. In fact, just don't threaten suicide to get your way. Ever. It is sick, coercive, abusive, and just pla…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:40 AM
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as a gay person I don't understand how someone could see what's happening to trans people and not be sympathetic when a lot of it is recycled homophobia. Do you really want to know the answer? https://open.substack.com/pub/artymorty/p/the-war-to-annihilate-sex?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=2hxbp5
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:29 AM
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Tucutes, trenders, theyfabs... all words for the anti-medicalists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:25 AM
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I also think it pales in comparison to the amount of abuse trans people receive on the daily, simply for being trans. This is a myth used to justify an extremely confrontational, unassailably victimized approach to advocacy. Trans people don't lose their jobs & reputations for being trans; accused transphobes lose theirs for disobeying the thought police. Gay men get hate-crimed more than everybody else at Pride put together.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:22 AM
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100%. Here's what a real TERF (not the ridiculous rightwing-radfem bogeywomen of bad-faith influencers) has to say to TIRF misandrist extraordinaire Catharine MacKinnon: https://www.philosophersmag.com/essays/318-woman-as-resource-a-reply-to-catharine-mackinnon
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:13 AM
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That's just radical feminists.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:12 AM
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Here's what a real TERF (not the ridiculous rightwing-radfem bogeywomen of bad-faith influencers) has to say to TIRF misandrist extraordinaire Catharine MacKinnon about essentialism and more: https://www.philosophersmag.com/essays/318-woman-as-resource-a-reply-to-catharine-mackinnon
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 06:08 AM
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It's mainly about hormone levels. If it made you feel phantom limbs and that others shouldn't be there, its a much lower (and much more tolerable) level. Phantom tits/dicks aren't even a listed symptom of gender dysphoria. The wrong hormones post-puberty is enough to cause suicide. On its own. No, that's a 100% false claim. Worse, it's an irresponsible, sociologically ignorant thing to say. Single-cause suicide is a myth refuted by all responsible professionals, so there's absolutely no way that…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 05:47 AM
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It's only a second rape if a first rape happened. You're begging the question. And if you think the way that they treat alleged rape victims is bad, you should see the way they treat rape suspects! In fact I'll to go out on a limb: anybody who would call police investigation “the second rape” has never been raped. It's a fundamentally trivializing thing to say, really, and bears the hallmarks of floridly thought-terminating cluster B cliches There are plenty of other traumatic crimes, all the vi…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 05:16 AM
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It just needs to be acknowledged that feminism has by now resolutely become unfalsifiable anti-male superstition.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 05:00 AM
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Ah, I misread “your pretending to be people making up scenarios” as one whole chunk reminiscent of “I'm the dude playing another dude...”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 04:56 AM
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They are speaking of course in the context of boxing which is an area in which men definitely have an advantage over women. It's disingenuous to pretend male physical advantage is some TERF myth. That it is absolutely not—and I can tell you that for a fact because I don't have it, being an XXY guy. Serena knows too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/24 02:35 AM
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Compliant... obedient isn't quite accurate.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/08/24 02:16 AM
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Jesus Christ, that's a family dynamic and a half...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/24 12:25 AM
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pretending to be people making up imaginary scenarios (false flag) Wait, so what are those people really?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 11:57 PM
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how can they sit there and expect those men to perform / adhere to the gender role of "Protector"? Didn't they just get done telling us how unprotected we make them feel? 🐻
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/24 09:08 PM
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I wonder if women know any rapists
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/24 08:56 PM
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All of those numbers are on the decline. I do not think that is unproblematic because we can't force men to go to college and clearly if men just tried harder we could succeed and I hope you agree with me. But I'm not saying that if women tried harder, they could get elected. I'm saying if more of them wanted to get elected, more would be running for office. And I don't believe for a minute that somehow there's a rogue glass ceiling right here, where career status depends upon election by a majo…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/24 09:21 PM
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Meanwhile they have poisoned: Male (privilege) Masculinity (toxic) Patriarch(y) Man(splain/spread/baby/child) Men('s rights) Boys(club, will be boys=anal rape w/cactus) Dude|Bro Dad😆DY! 🥴🤪👑♂️👖
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 03:32 AM
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“but it's because of all that stuff that women are no longer chattel slaves...”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 03:20 AM
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I rolled my eyes out loud when my sister-in-law tried to take this one for a spin.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 03:18 AM
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Like evolution by natural selection?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 02:54 AM
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Never heard even one feminist discuss maternal mortality except in the context of how a leading cause of death among pregnant women is murder by the father. What's the problem with political representation? We can't force women to run for office, and clearly they can win elections (if Boebert can do it, anyone can do it).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 02:50 AM
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it is not possible for the majority of women’s violence to be in self-defense, as most victimized women do not use violence at all." Basted in the based. What a quote.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/24 01:41 AM
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I think when feminists start grasping at straws... ...it's cuz they SUCK! Really though, when are they not grasping at straws?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 10:10 PM
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Try googling Women Against Amber Heard. 🦗
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/24 10:06 PM
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If the left were nuanced and realistic, this sub wouldn't have to exist because there would be no leftist presumption that any men's rights activist must be an incel, far-right rapist Nazi bigot. The same obviously goes for TERFs, gender criticals, or literally anyone who is not convinced by the zero-argumentation, maximum-contemptuous-snark approach to spreading your self-victimizing, us-v-them to the death revisionist view of history and humanity. Everyone feminists don't like is a patriarchal…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/24 11:04 PM
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Quite right, and nicely put; I had written a bit about this, actually, but deleted it because I worried it would only further alienate an audience predisposed to disagree with me. And they deleted it immediately anyway...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/24 03:04 AM
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She's disgusting and insane. I used to paper over the former with the latter, but no longer. So I've got that going for me, which is nice...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/24 03:00 AM
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Seriously? You're drawing a blank on this one?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/24 02:57 AM
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If the left were as nuanced and realistic as you suggest, this sub wouldn't have to exist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 06:18 PM
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However, while the right does at times acknowledge that men are struggling, they are dishonest about why men are struggling. The right will blame women... Feminists, really... and rightly so! ...immigrants, trans people, or scapegoat some other group as being the problem, which is why many disillusioned men drawn to the right fall into fascism. Did someone order a slippery slope? It makes the right look less bad to freestyle Fight Club fanfic like this. Disillusioned men aren't falling into fasc…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 06:07 PM
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Yeah but that sort of thing isn't personal; that's just game, as they say. Maybe my downvoters didn't get the memo about hell hath no fury, but... She kicked my cat. Into the air with shoes on. Not because my cat was doing anything wrong (whatever that would even be). She kicked him because she knew it was my only fear/reservation about moving in with her. I didn't like being abused but I could live with it to some extent with the hope that maybe it would stop eventually. But my cat doesn't have…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/24 03:03 AM
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Use m to substitute p, a to substitute e, n to substitute a, g to substitute c, o to substitute h; how to spell "peach" under this rule?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 06:50 PM
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Hoez before bros, you know how it goes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 06:35 PM
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In my time, I've taken shit from a lot of people, but I have seen undeniable transcendental evil only in a woman's eyes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 05:23 PM
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Always has been. Duluth has got to be a conspiracy of violent, inhumane borderlines; they simply benefit too perfectly much to be a coincidence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 05:10 PM
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1) A cuckold is a genetic dead end, he's just prey. If only there were other ways to contribute to the human adventure...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 02:01 AM
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That being said, in practice oftentimes men who have a partner who does OnlyFans are weak and servile, so much so that they do not erect and maintain... boundaries
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:59 AM
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That's why we have Shriek4Men
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 12:45 AM
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Feminists may cite the difficulty of conviction to say that there is a rape culture, but I'd say it's exactly the opposite. In more ways than one, because in fact conviction is not difficult: 143,000 rape/SA 141,000 assault 139,000 murder 129,000 robbery 86,000 burglary 40,000 drug possession 9,000 car theft Those last three added together make 135,000, btw. So, do you think: 1) It's nearly three times easier to land a conviction for rape/SA than a drug possession? 2) The numbers reflect broader…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/24 12:33 AM
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Obviously no victim wants to be spoken of as an alleged victim. But the validity of the accuser’s claim to be the victim of the accused is precisely the matter to be adjudicated at trial. There's clearly some sort of parity-of-reasoning equivalent to “innocent until proven guilty” afoot here.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/24 10:18 PM
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In case it gets deleted there: I think the studies that ignore societal biases are more reliable, because they don't assume that victims are automatically liars and allow that assumption to affect the investigative process. [Emphasis mine] Holy God, what a thing to say. To think. To believe—and in some way, seemingly, to intend? Especially for you. You give smartygood YouTube; you know how thoughts become meanings that become words that become meanings that become thoughts. And you deadass actua…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 11:18 PM
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Umm, sorry, what?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 07:09 PM
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Are you joking right now? I just told you: that video is one gigantic strawman, or I suppose a few strawmen tied together. I know you know what that means, so you must be acting dumb while thinking fashy. So here's a visceral way to appreciate just how sickeningly, cynically bad your bad-faith approach really is: You know who really understands male victims of IPV? Rebecca Watson. She's so well-versed in the literature that she can tell you exactly why you should trust Amber Heard and not Johnny…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/24 06:57 PM
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Pediatric gender-affirming care does not meet modern medical standards for evidence-based care. WPATH admits that SoC 8, published less than two years ago, "is the first to be developed using an evidence-based approach." Cass's Interim Report was published in May 2022; SoC 8 four months later. Stop throwing the word "transphobia" around like "patriarchy"; you're neither as informed nor as righteous as you presume.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/24 08:59 PM
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NotAllMaleCriminals
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/24 05:57 AM
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Which words confuse you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/24 05:49 AM
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begging her to put the fight on hold until they get home because it's embarrassing I wish my borderline ex would have pulled her crybullying bullshit in public, where there would've at least been witnesses to her depraved, entitled abusiveness. I'd take that embarrassment ANY DAY over the suicidal humiliation of getting hauled away in handcuffs so she could have her “friend I shouldn't worry about” over to eat her pussy in our bed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/24 12:04 AM
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Dr. Jordan Peterson (the only professional I've heard speak on the subject) says that most cases of gender dysphoria self-resolve by adulthood. So he would disagree with what your parents did. Never mind Jordan Peterson, trusted by no one whose mind he'd like to change: WPATH's own SoC 7, the de facto international transition bible until SoC 8 dropped in the autumn of 2022, said the exact same thing: “In most children, gender dysphoria will disappear before or early in puberty.” Show of hands if…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/24 10:16 PM
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Since we're on the theme of dispelling misconceptions, please allow me, as this sub's most outspoken defender of gender-critical views (and only XXY intersex man, AFAIK), to welcome OP to one of the internet's few genuine safe spaces for free thought and, as Clockw0rk rightly put it, “lively” exchange thereof. Please believe that despite what most of Reddit (and even a few of our own number) would have you believe, TERFs and other non-Ultra GCs do not want to see you (or anyone) dead, destitute,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/24 06:44 PM
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The wage gap is easy, though: not only is it a federal crime to pay even ONE woman less for the same job, but if it were possible to systemically hire women for cheaper, all possible positions would be “outsourced” to women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/24 09:23 AM
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Rape gap, wage culture...
/r/EverydayMisandry22/07/24 10:22 PM
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Really interesting to see how people go from mainstream feminism to being radicalised by this stuff. It's a helluva story, but it ain't true.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/24 07:25 PM
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It's an hour-long strawman, sadly. It's slightly better than Shaun's slanderous takes, but that only makes it more disingenuous: Shaun doesn't pretend he's doing anything but a hit piece. There are plenty of GC/TERF sources that explain exactly why we believe what we believe. Not that it's very complicated: 1) people can't change sex, regardless of their gender, and 2) gender nonconformity is healthy and nothing that requires medical intervention to “treat.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/24 07:21 PM
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Even having to say “being a lesbian is not a red flag” tells you a lot about where this video is coming from. The intellectual backdrop of the gender critical movement is simple: we were introduced to transgender people as having been Assigned the Wrong Gender at Birth. Not the wrong sex: that really is a baby boy, but she has a female gender identity. She will grow up to claim this female gender identity, and will prefer she/her pronouns. And your baby boy will grow up to be... The same thing a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/24 05:56 PM
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Better than when they use all caps like the Confederacy of Independent Systems.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/07/24 03:21 PM
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Bi women are disproportionately borderlines, who are disproportionately violent, so this one actually tracks.
/r/EverydayMisandry20/07/24 03:20 PM
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Obviously I don't blame the problem on transfems. But I resent them for taking advantage of DV resources while knowing damn well the rest of us will be turned away. If that's the thanks I get for being an ally, I'm out. Same old game, different women. [ETA: Especially if they truly are women, because then they are more likely to be the aggressors and false-accusers and definitely don't deserve the Duluth presumption of victimhood. But if they're not women, they're leaving their victimized bros b…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/24 02:48 PM
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Non sequitur.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/24 02:42 PM
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Which would be relevant in husbandry. You're going to do some livestock breeding of humans? Or maybe some genetic splicing? Otherwise irrelevant. That's an odd take. Have we broken our mammalian shackles somehow? You fell for the "I'm a trans girl because I like pink". I mean, it is among the diagnostic criteria. But it never was the reason, or even A reason for being trans. Yet it turns up in story after story of “how I knew...” Its neurological intersex There is next to no evidence for such a …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/24 07:13 AM
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By contrast, here's a true leftist GC: King Critical
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 11:46 PM
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JKR, KJK, Helen Joyce, Stella O'Malley, Mia Hughes, that woman JKR first posted about... all a buncha breeders! Off the top of my head, I can't think of a lesbian TERF other than Kathleen Stock.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 11:11 PM
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You're welcome. I should add that the Ultra motto is "hold the line"—meaning ALWAYS deadname, ALWAYS misgender, ALWAYS invalidate. They disparage TERFs and other GCs who allow for "TruTrans," and also like to throw around the term "PetTrünz" for GC transsexuals like Buck Angel. That is to say, if a TERF has a GC trans friend/ally, that friend/ally is dehumanized by Ultras as a "pet troon" validated as "true trans" by a TERF too naive/corrupt to "hold the line."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 10:39 PM
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Sex is binary; mammals are gonochoric. There's no reason trans people should be bringing any of this sex stuff up as talking points; gender and sex are not the same thing, and just because gender is a spectrum doesn't mean sex is. Really, sex has nothing to do with anything trans except as the background against which trans people perform gender, as that which makes them not-cis. It's hard not to view with suspicion this new wave of sex-is-bimodal advocacy, especially as it cynically appeals to …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 10:03 PM
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I did need DV resources and got swatted instead. That's prejudice nobody should face. Trans women are getting shelter while I'm getting swatted? Fuck yeah, I resent that... especially if I'm gonna hear how easy I have it as a cishet white man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 09:53 PM
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They claim it's because the men's room is too dangerous.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 09:06 PM
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There's an organization called Genspect that TRAs call transphobic but that Ultras consider to be "sleeping with the trans enemy." That's how Ultra the Ultras are. They think Helen Joyce is a traitor because she uses preferred pronouns.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/07/24 08:57 PM
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Just because some bad or stupid things have been done in the name of feminism, doesn't mean feminism is bad, wrong, or useless. You speak as though Duluth is a mistake made, past-tense, and not an ongoing blight. If feminism wanted to fix it, it'd be fixed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 03:18 PM
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It's probably women LARPing conservative.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 03:04 PM
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Good God yes.
/r/EverydayMisandry18/07/24 05:41 AM
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I was on Buck Angel's show shortly after being banned from the intersex sub for questioning the wisdom of gender transition for kids, considering the intersex position is teach kids to love their body even if it doesn't fit other people's expectations. Shit is so much more nuanced than the black-and-white thinking of gender warriors allows. Ironic, for all the nonbinary talk, that they can only see validating allies and transphobic bigots.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 05:19 AM
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Thank you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 05:10 AM
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TERF feminist is generally logical consistent in their ideology at least. Absolutely. And if trans women are women, that makes non-TERFs no less misandrist for accepting them. Both are saying "no boys allowed," they just disagree on what boys are. I'll say this: fuck any trans women getting access to DV shelters I can't get into as an intersex man. I guarantee y'all could beat my ass as surely as my borderline ex did, so GTFO and show some solidarity with men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 05:06 AM
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My other major criticism is the antagonism between the "truscum" and self-id factions. I don't like how they can't decide amongst themselves what gender means to them, but will unite and attack non-trans people who merely express confusion about the same thing that they can't agree on amongst themselves. I K fucking R? It really is such an asshole move. My trans friends are truscum; they know TERFs are getting bullied same as them. The self-ID crew bullies literally everybody who doesn't give in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:59 AM
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Yeah, the TERF hate is crazy. The Ultras are the ones who REALLY hate men and REALLY want transness gone. TERFs respect pronouns; Ultras misgender as often as possible and in ALL CAPS. They are not the same.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:49 AM
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Based.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:43 AM
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This is cope. TERFs are not especially lesbian, and gender-criticals are mostly genuinely left-wing. Horseshoe theory is horseshit.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:43 AM
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Nuance is good. TERFs are afraid of transfems in the ladies' room because misandry: fine. Who is it that transfems are afraid will hurt them in the men's room? It's not bears. 🐻 IT'S MEN. 🐻
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:40 AM
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TERFS are scum and the ideology needs to be wiped out. Live by the sword, die by the sword, bro.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:30 AM
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I don't think trans women would want to be included in conversations about periods or child birth anyway Oh but they do. Nursing as well. As an XXY guy, I have a lot of bones to pick with the trans movement. Don't get it twisted: like many intersex people, I have subclinical gender dysphoria, and I've been misgendered more times than I can count; and yeah, some of my closest friends are trans. But I'm constantly seeing my condition held up as proof that sex is a spectrum, a bimodal distribution,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/07/24 04:23 AM
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The world would get real peaceful within about a century of a male genocide.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 04:52 AM
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“Just because we're pro-woman doesn't mean we're anti-man. Being a feminist is about lifting women up, but that will lift everyone up—man, woman, black, white, LGBTQIA+, the whole planet. It's a total myth that feminism thinks men are the enemy!” Wow... Thanks for telling me all that; I guess I was misinformed! So if it's not all about bringing down men, what is feminism really all about? “Destroying the patriarchy.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/24 04:48 AM
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they get mad when male bystanders don’t help hurt women (not that I disagree or anything). I totally read this as: they get mad when male bystanders don't help injure women (not that I disagree or anything).
/r/EverydayMisandry17/07/24 04:26 AM
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Based.
/r/EverydayMisandry17/07/24 04:23 AM
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This small band of men with all the power. Presumably they all have sons, being The Patriarchs and all. They can't be married, because then they'd presumably have to share power with yucky girls.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 10:50 PM
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I tend to think there's also a tendency to regard women as victims of circumstances, even where their own actions are concerned, so that even if they do something, that's men making them do it. Or society. This is similar to the liberal-lawyer fallacy (my client isn't guilty; society is). It is formally known, in psychology, as an external locus of control. When one remembers that a fragmented sense of self](https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Fragmented-Selves-Trauma-Survivors/) is a predictable psy…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 10:46 PM
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Yes, that's also (more commonly?) called 'male disposability'.... It seems to be multifaceted. And insidious! But every so often, someone slips and says the quiet part out loud
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 09:18 PM
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what they forget is that women can still hit men with a bat or throw a glass at them in domestic violence which is as force as beating. The female species has evolved tool-use? This is a watershed moment in human history! Every single time, somebody will say, “because men are stronger, they can just walk away or, failing that, overpower a violent woman.” But the two times I turned my back on my borderline ex while she was angry, she literally kicked my ass as hard as she could. The first time, I…
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 09:14 PM
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So do they reproduce asexually?
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 07:35 PM
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Q: Why did the feminist cross the chicken? A: The bear was getting hungry.
/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 01:38 AM
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/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 01:34 AM
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/r/EverydayMisandry16/07/24 01:25 AM
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Agreed; it's mere sexism.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 02:32 PM
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Most female on male DV killings are not even considered killings, in many of these cases the woman is assumed to be Battered and thus reducing number of male homicide even more. Double-check that link...
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 02:27 PM
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It's all about power and control What a coinkydink...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 07:06 AM
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It surely is...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 07:03 AM
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the system which reduces men to their economic and warfare value, while taking away their power to be emotional and fulfilled Shouldn't there be some substantial systemic benefits to men in a system called "patriarchy"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 05:21 AM
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OMG, it's the UK's version of the Super Bowl abuse myth.
/r/EverydayMisandry15/07/24 01:21 AM
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“The basic story is that on pretty much every measure, on every level of the system, boys are now lagging behind girls, and men behind women. That’s true in nearly every advanced economy.” Good heavens, it's the worst case of patriarchy I've ever seen!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 01:15 AM
1

It expects us to produce economic value in times of peace, and to produce violence in times of war. 🎵 I produce two joints before I smoke two joints, and then I produce two more. 🎶
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 01:03 AM
3

Thanks for that! Last time I criticized the TQ+ here, some Woke Warrior decided a ban would teach me a valuable lesson... Here's a little bonus clarifying info: mammals, birds, and insects are gonochoric, meaning every individual is born either male or female (as opposed to simultaneous hermaphrodites like earthworms) and remains that way for life (as opposed to certain sequentially hermaphroditic species like the clownfish). Up until relatively recently, an intersex condition now called ovotest…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 12:58 AM
2

I believe in the systems thinking principle of the purpose of a system is what it does. Under this principle, then, there can be no doubt that the Duluth Model exists to enable women with borderline personality disorder to assault and/or falsely accuse men with impunity while indulging their distorted and pernicious self-conception as victims of a cruelly exploitative external locus of (power and) control. Fuckin' based!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 12:27 AM
2

Wow, good stuff!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/07/24 12:15 AM
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because men have all the power This right here is the Big Lie you must come out from under in order to have a good time here. Men do *not** have all the power.* We never did, but we sure as hell don't now. Nor, to anticipate a common pivot, is it true that only some men have all the power (#NotAllMen!). Women absolutely have power. They're also quite adept, individually and as a group, at convincing men otherwise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 11:15 PM
8

the system which reduces men to their economic and warfare value, while taking away their power to be emotional and fulfilled That system does exist, of course. But who in their right mind would think to name such a system "patriarchy"? That's like calling the position of the Confederacy "Africanism."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 10:58 PM
6

Very much so. There's also some good old-fashioned favoritism. As an XXY man, I find it offensive, fetishizing, and just plain ignorant when trans activists use my condition to support the pseudoscientific claim that the sexes are "bimodally distributed" rather than strictly binary. Many if not most guys with 47,XXY Klinefelter Syndrome don't even think of themselves as intersex (although I do); they certainly do not consider themselves to be a "third sex" or "neither/both." To have Klinefelter'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 10:50 PM
1

Same thing in this context: women perpetrate IPV more often than men (and throw the first punch more often in mutual-violence situations). That means they are more physically aggressive towards their partners than men.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 09:03 PM
1

I am persuaded but not quite convinced. UC Berkeley, perennial vanguard of academic leftism, says "In July 2005, as part of a broader revision of the undergraduate curriculum, we officially changed our unit’s name to the Department of Gender and Women’s Studies." Can it really be mere coincidence that "the term TERF was first used in writing by Viv Smythe/tigtog of Hoyden About Town in August 2008"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 08:23 PM
1

Why would anyone think that homosexuality and womanhood are similar enough categories that they are best combined into a single field of study? That makes no more sense than combining, say, African-American studies with non-Western religious traditions. Sexual orientation is not gender. And don't tell me they were ever seriously considering incorporating men's studies; that's what every other department is for, as the joke goes!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 05:07 AM
1

I'm pretty sure only KJK has said this, and not entirely seriously.
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 04:47 AM
1

Sorry, but as an intersex man who has watched his community be colonized and spoken for/over by deeply disrespectful, shamelessly malingering TRAs, I refuse to villainize TERFs. Ultras can fuck right off, but true TERFs have been unfairly slandered and abandoned by the left just like us. It's pretty shocking to see anyone here fall into the thoughtless leftism that is driven to blindly hate on a group of people for [checks notes] allegedly being driven by blind hate. "Transphobia" is, like "patr…
/r/EverydayMisandry14/07/24 04:41 AM
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Patriarchy is not a theory. It's a thought-terminating cliche.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/24 12:20 AM
1

Sorry for the delay. First of all, I reject the premise that women are not violent. The real (non-activist) stats on IPV suggest that women are actually slightly more likely to lash out physically at their partners (male or female). Not a big surprise, as nobody ever tells women not to. Women with borderline personality disorder are explosively angry and highly impulsive, which can easily lead to violent outbursts. Second of all, we don't have much by way of reliable stats on the comparative rat…
/r/EverydayMisandry13/07/24 11:49 PM
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There's only one solution.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/24 07:15 AM
1

It's called DARVO; they're all Cluster Bees.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/24 06:06 AM
10

Myth busted!
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/24 02:31 AM
2

She's the absolute fucking worst. Seriously: THE WORST
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/24 12:53 AM
-4

It's not testosterone, it's not men's strength, it's not men's libidos, it's none of those things. It's because of what society does to people who grow up as boys. That's cap.
/r/EverydayMisandry12/07/24 12:42 AM
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Again, the comic specifically targeted the toxic men that do that. It's showing specifically toxic men that the shit they do is bad. The comic is explicitly pointing out to toxic men She did not specifically, explicitly target a particular subgroup of men; just men, full stop. It's true she didn't say all men because nobody's going to say that explicitly... but there were no qualifiers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 11:38 PM
2

We're called intersex, you clam. And the rest of the comment just doubled down on presumption.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 10:09 PM
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they were just in the process of changing the discipline from 'women's studies' to 'gender studies', that was only in 2007 That was done to accommodate transfeminine men; the minority who resisted the rebrand were labeled TERFs by the majority, and the rest is history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 04:29 PM
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What good are they trying to do?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 04:15 PM
1

Pleasebeawomanpleasebeawomanpleasebeawoman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 03:58 PM
8

I knew the OP had some issues with critique of men. What clued you in there, genius?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/07/24 03:55 PM
1

Equal? Did you not notice the Power and Control wheels festooned throughout every police station DV unit and probation office in the land?
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/24 11:00 PM
1

I like the poetic formatting.
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/24 10:52 PM
1

I'm sorry, Germans are out of stock... but Amalek Palestinians Arab terrorists are on clearance!
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/24 10:51 PM
1

If antisemitism, patriarchy, and transphobia don't get you, the War on Christmas will...
/r/EverydayMisandry10/07/24 10:48 PM
2

...like a goddamn vampire
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:40 PM
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But you still vote for such parties that uphold such ideologies, where you could just not vote as i do. Since no parties exist opposing such ideologies, my vote can't make anything worse. Thats literally Stockholm syndrome. No, men disenfranchising themselves because misandrists have captured politics is literally Stockholm syndrome. left is becoming the very thing they accuse the right of, in regards to men and women who dont align their views with current ideology. Oh, I absolutely agree. But …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 06:04 AM
0

I wouldn't however include "civil liberties" as that's something of an Americanism So is misandrist feminism! America comes readily to mind, of course, and I was gonna say "non-second amendments." But there's also the Magna Carta, the Enlightenment, the French Constitution, and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to name a few non-American touchstones of leftist liberal liberties. Although we've dropped the ball pretty hard this century, leftism has traditionally been fiercely protective …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/07/24 05:17 AM
2

If we look at the "bucks" part of marriages we can see that in 84% of marriages men earn more or as much as women (55% earn more + 29% earn around the same). The majority of married women are "hypergamous" in that they selected men who earn more than them. An equally plausible hypothesis: there is significant overlap between people who seek marriage and people who seek something approximating the traditional domestic life. Success for this sort of man means breadwinning; for the woman, homemakin…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 04:23 AM
2

A. Dumbisch
/r/EverydayMisandry08/07/24 08:34 PM
5

Death Before Dubcon, then?
/r/EverydayMisandry08/07/24 08:47 AM
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And grass for the touching.
/r/EverydayMisandry08/07/24 08:45 AM
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The crux of what makes us left-wing is that we aren't trying to turn back the clock in any way. We aren't anti-feminist in the traditional "loyal opposition" sense that prefers men as breadwinners and women as homemakers. We just think that feminism is absolutely out of pocket now, as an institution, having long ago accomplished its original goals of liberty and equality and now mission-crept into misandry and mythmaking.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 08:44 AM
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That was fuckin' awesome... but you forgot dove-ism, civil liberties, and the United Nations! 🕊️🌎🗞️🗽📰🌍☮️
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/24 08:27 AM
2

It's the stingrays you have to watch out for...
/r/EverydayMisandry07/07/24 07:48 PM
4

Number 1 being imprisonment...
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 10:55 PM
2

TERFs are refreshingly consistent on these issues, actually...
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 10:54 PM
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In grad school, a fellow TA took the stats to heart, and was quite confident that 1/4 of her male students would have their way with her if given the opportunity. What a horrible way to live.
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 10:51 PM
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Especially when they aren't actually talking about rape or even SA, but "treating women like sex slaves," which likely means, e.g., "noticeably disappointed when no BJ during shark week."
/r/EverydayMisandry05/07/24 10:47 PM
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Two X chromosomes, that is. Not to be confused with Twitter.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/07/24 09:49 PM
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Hard agree. In my family, we didn't even call our parents mom and dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 03:40 AM
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Based. Duluth is absolute madness, woven deep into our institutions and more toxic than any masculinity. °•°•°•°•°🎂•🍰•🎂°•°•°•°•°
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/24 03:24 AM
12

She's the literal worst.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 10:48 PM
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God, her comics are always such absolute trash, with quite possibly the smarmiest possible drawing style. What a crunt.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/24 10:47 PM
2

Hell no, I'm not demonizing men! Quite the opposite: I think men have been over-demonized, but I don't think the answer is to arrest women for the same crimes I don't think men should be getting arrested for in the first place.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 07:32 AM
2

And given the inequality in the justice system not enough are women. Proportionately, yes, but in practice what you're proposing would amount to arresting a bunch more women rather than reducing both the inequality AND the prison-industrial complex. However I do actually think women should get arrested for this shit. But it's not fair that men get arrested for this shit, and two wrongs don't make a right I am sick of hearing and seeing all this demonizing of men while women do the same fucking t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 05:45 AM
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The above comment was me being snarky about the sad and scary reality that there are women out there getting men in trouble for retconned sexual assaults. I don't mean that they have sex and regret it and so lie and say they were raped (although that happens too). I mean women who did not uphold their end of the social contract around consent. It's unreasonable to expect young men in flagrante delicto to be simultaneously, flawlessly running "give her 10/10 God-mode dicking down" and "constantly…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 05:34 AM
0

We've got enough fucking people imprisoned in this goddamn country. I'm not trying to be a rape apologist here, but I don't think that more women being arrested is the solution to the pearl-clutching petrified prudish petulance of the weaponized-consent minefield men are expected from their first kiss to navigate expertly (and exclusively, because of course women will be blowing too many spoons monitoring their "potential murderer" to be counted on to speak up for themselves, much less care how …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 05:17 AM
2

I want to make sure I'm getting this right... are you saying (roughly) that women should be drafted because then we wouldn't have any more wars, because everybody's instinct to protect women would kick in? Not happening in Israel, although if it were a fair fight and zaftig young Jewesses were getting mowed down left and right, enthusiasm for disposable female soldiers might wane. Because one unfortunate truth that's going to have to be resolved here, assuming that reason, evidence, and justice …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 04:34 AM
3

As far as I can tell, gender is a catch-all term for the legacy essentialist bullshit left undissolved by the 20th century. Hard pass... 👎
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 04:13 AM
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Children need protection. But if women want protection, they'll need to step up and take care of that themselves; we can't constantly be fathering these woman-babies.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/24 02:41 AM
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Meh; it's all just an undercooked, overwrought mess right now. We need actual progress, not "queering."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 06:27 PM
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Neither, or maybe both. It's an example I've encountered here at least five times: a woman whose trauma history caused her to become mute, dissociated, or otherwise passively compliant during one or more sex acts she looks back on as nonconsensual. To be a good feminist, she "should" fully reframe them as dehumanizing sexual assault, as violation and violence, as rape. That is what happened to her, and he did it. Meanwhile, the guy is worried that he sucks in bed because she just seemed so bored…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 03:11 PM
1

Isn't that just PUA? I thought the MGTOW ethos was more, “Fuck it bro, if it happens, it happens. I'm good.”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 02:36 PM
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More based AF than an Air Force base. 🥂
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 02:32 PM
-1

Just accept that women are at fault for not finding you attractive enough. 🤔🧐🤔
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 05:35 AM
2

By that I mean a lot of right-wing types believe in essential traits that dominate all human behavior and immutable structures that determine the shape of society. We finally get them to accept evolution and they go full social Darwinism...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 05:30 AM
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Call me a voluntary celibate then… volcel? 😂 MGTOW, then. 😉
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 05:27 AM
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Maybe she just felt too unsafe to say no. Bet you didn't even stop to ask before you had your way with her.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 04:34 AM
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If feminism were so egalitarian, it'd be called egalitarianism.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/06/24 04:22 AM
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Also: maybe in their capacity as mothers, women could do something to help their sons survive (radical concept apparently).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/06/24 12:48 AM
1

All that plus the Power & Control Wheel.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 11:43 PM
2

abuse victims have often been coerced into defending their abuser, or may have stockholm syndrome, or been gaslit into believing it was their own fault. Really? 🧐 Are we just taking the feminists' word for this one, or do we actually have hard data? Surely, in most cases, people just don't want to see their lover do hard time for a lapse of judgment that likely didn't do any serious damage. Fully half the time, the violence is mutual anyway. Again, not true in my case, but I never could prove th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/24 05:47 PM
1

Despite it all, I bet few Russian women would choose the bear 🐻
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/06/24 02:58 PM
3

They are the majority of single mothers milking "gendered violence" to this extent.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 06:44 PM
5

People with personality disorders are a majority of abusers AND false accusers.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 06:24 PM
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justify sex segregation by radfems with cluster b personality disorders Ding ding ding we have a winner. 🏆
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 05:34 PM
3

Coddling borderlines so they can abuse their kids with impunity. Great idea...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 05:33 PM
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Don't forget, boys: women's shelters were all built by women. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/06/24 05:31 PM
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Those enemy feminists are no fabrication of the right. The fact that this sub exists should tell you that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/06/24 07:37 PM
12

"I’ve had to grit my teeth and bear a friend saying something to this effect to my face..." Beats friending bears...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/24 02:16 PM
3

But why is it transmen in particular [that people are phobic bout]?’ It's not. How can anyone believe this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/05/24 07:44 PM
2

Validating false accusers is never good.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 09:51 PM
1

Bro. You know. 🫠 I'm so sorry, man... 🫥
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 09:39 PM
2

called things like “TERF”, even if they aren’t That's who I had in mind. There are others, too?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 09:19 PM
1

True today, but that hasn't always been the case.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 09:08 PM
2

Emotions are not a personal responsibility; I don't have to have any emotions at all. You are right, of course that we can choose how to behave in response to our emotions, although that's no guarantee we will respond in the best/healthiest way, whatever that even is. When women say they are scared of men, they aren't describing an actual felt emotion but an association they've been taught by people with a vested interest in fostering mistrust. Because of this association, women might indeed be …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 11:46 AM
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Feminism comes in many varieties, not all of which are bad-faith misandrist propaganda. The key is “the patriarchy,” an unfalsifiable, all-purpose bogeyman and a thought-terminating cliche. Those especially determined to hate men supplement the patriarchy with "rape culture."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 09:24 AM
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They call it manipulation, but withholding intimacy is abusive, a dehumanizing tactic of power and control. Subtle, hopefully unintended implication here: "if only women were stronger, we wouldn't have to resort to withholding and would show these men how raping's done."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:50 AM
2

All emotions are internal, but that doesn't mean they're voluntary, or that they're not highly subject to external influence.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:43 AM
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Yup. I got myself banned from the abusive relationships sub (which always recommends that book) for calling out a woman who was clearly doing a DARVO, attempting to mass-triangulate an abuse-support group against her husband. Truly disgusting stuff.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:40 AM
3

https://hbr.org/2009/09/the-female-economy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:35 AM
3

The element of surprise can also be advantageous: https://allthatsinteresting.com/brynn-hartman
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:31 AM
5

Unless, of course... Also, aren't wives notorious for bringing husbands to heel with "that look"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 08:29 AM
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To be fair, there is a branch of radical feminism that has abandoned this delusional double standard.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/05/24 07:59 AM
1

Here: "Without prejudging the accuracy of the information received I would like to express my serious concern that if introduced, the proposed amendments to Title IX Regulations on Students’ Eligibility for Athletic Teams would result in the unfair treatment and unlawful and extreme forms of discrimination against most women and girls on the basis of female sex. If introduced, the foreseen changes to Title IX could also undermine the access of women and girls in sports to equal opportunity as we…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/24 07:26 AM
2

By this I mean that making a perfectly reasonable statement like saying that you think transwomen shouldn’t be able to compete in combat sports against natal women can get you branded as a right wing bigot who stands with nazis. I got site-banned for a week for discussing precisely that topic right here in this very sub, so be careful.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 07:53 AM
2

Can confirm.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/24 07:49 AM
2

Start with Reem Alsalem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/24 07:23 AM
-2

Plenty of women hate the new Title IX and are speaking out.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/24 10:11 PM
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Do you really believe men are that checked-out? And do you not see how that's a kinda negative sentiment? That's gonna hold for any formulation of "Most men are incredibly ignorant about [insert whatever a misandrist might say.]"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 03:04 AM
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Oh, I'm with you 100% on that. It's especially rich coming from non-TERFs, who in ceding the word "woman" to transfems have left themselves precisely one word to serve as an unambiguous designator of their sex: female. It's not just a made-up problem but a made-up problem they brought on themselves!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 02:02 AM
3

most men are incredibly ignorant / indifferent to all the hate targetting them as a group Misandry crops up in the strangest places. And yet, in a sense, you prove your point, because I bet a lot more people would notice if you began a sentence, "Most women are incredibly ignorant."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:53 AM
1

Imagine having the problems and sins of the world being blamed on you and your gender. In this context especially, the problems are being blamed on our sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:41 AM
1

Sex is healthy at the individual level and necessary at the species level. Voluntary or not, celibacy is not the standard against which men should be judged.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:33 AM
0

Why not? Sexual attention is nice.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:28 AM
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But animals have sex and humans aren't animals, therefore sex is dehumanizing. /s
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:26 AM
1

Wow, read this AFTER my comment above and... yep, checks out ✔️
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:26 AM
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Exactly. There are people who say that calling women "females" means you are identifying them by/with their genitals, thereby indicating that you think their genitals are the only important thing about them. I'm not defending calling women "females," and I don't do it myself. But OMFG, I cannot think of a more ludicrously pearl-clutching bad-faith interpretation of the motives and beliefs of those who do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/04/24 01:24 AM
1

The TERFs were named and shamed by the Mean Girls of Radical Feminism. But now that the Cass Report is out, they're looking pretty fetch.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/24 09:04 AM
1

Leftist MRAs, that is. Feminist-critical leftists and gender-critical feminists occupy analogous "hated by both sides" niches.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/24 09:01 AM
1

We're a very long way off from having evidence for these kind of things. Neuroscience is still in its infancy. We're still debating what to call the basic networks of the brain. Then why is it considered hateful bigotry to find the assertion that transfems are women less than persuasive, much less prima facie obvious? Expecting people to have scientific proof of gender being separate from sex is like, we're still arguing over what to call arms and legs and you want us to play tennis. Cool. Maybe…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/04/24 08:55 AM
5

Intersectionality kinda rolls it all together.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/04/24 08:26 PM
2

Fred Rogers was a feminine “white cisgender heterosexual man.” That fetishist clothing thief was a white gender-fluid theymab.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/04/24 12:17 AM
3

If you have had certain unfortunate niche experiences, r/BPDLovedOnes, r/SupportForTheAccused, and r/AWDTSGisToxic are all man-friendly yet non-pilled spaces. As is r/DeppVHeardTrial.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/04/24 03:04 AM
1

Ah, but remaining elite IS their day job, you see. And they don't even have to get any more wealthy or powerful; they just have to make sure the drawbridge is raised.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/24 06:42 PM
3

And people pretend not to comprehend me at all when I compare us to the TERFs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/24 06:28 AM
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Bezos, Musk, Zuch, the Googlebros, Gates, Jobs (RIP)—for that matter, Branson, Buffett, Soros, Trump, even Rowling—new money entrepreneurs, one and all. Some started off with more than others, but the elites they ain't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/24 06:24 AM
2

With strange bedfellows?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/24 05:56 AM
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/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/04/24 05:52 AM
1

guess it's that time...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 08:53 PM
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🚢🧊🆘"Women & children first!"🦺🦈 ☠️
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 07:28 PM
2

Back to basics; I like it. I guess bastard and son-of-a-bitch get claimed as misogynistic. But since we're taking the power back over here: fuck that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 07:24 PM
1

In the UK, fo sho
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 07:21 PM
1

In the UK, fo sho
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/03/24 07:21 PM
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Douche, sleaze, dirty old man, perv, lecher, fuckboi, nonce, diddler, cocksucker
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 12:19 PM
2

My favorite is when they talk about shaving their vaginas. Maybe borrow your guy's nosehair trimmer, cause that razor is definitely not a good fit for the job!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 11:34 AM
6

Men have at least heard of the fallopian tubes and cervix. How many women are familiar with the epididymis, vesicles, Cowper's gland? Hell, how many men are?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/03/24 11:31 AM
1

Ah, the pick-me problem...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 05:28 AM
1

Remember, though, that the battle of the sexes plays out differently among black people. Broadly speaking, among men there's more machismo, and among women more... resilience? Whatever the opposite of being a snowflake is; the concepts of patriarchy, privilege, microaggression, etc. hit way different among the descendants of literal slaves.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 05:27 AM
1

All their progressive and gentle nature is replaced by roaring anger and accusations of cowardice and "being a pussy" or being "weak".... men brimming with internalized misandry, men who openly hate their own kind or view our problems as lesser. 🎶 E'rebody do the Vaush! 🎶
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 05:09 AM
2

A big cuck in the streets, a big cock in the sheets?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 05:05 AM
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Of course they would! It's always self-defense when you're a borderline helpless woman. Oh, and the sex wasn't consensual. Glad to hear the "equal rights, equal lefts" policy worked out for a change.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/03/24 04:59 AM
4

To be an oppressed minority, you must first be a minority. Women are not a minority.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/24 08:53 PM
3

Preferable to eMoTioNaL ToRiEs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/24 01:47 AM
1

Where is the cube, Witwicky?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/02/24 01:39 AM
6

Yup. Four hours and twenty minutes, as it happens. That man is a saint.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 08:10 PM
5

Or Johnny Depp.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/02/24 08:09 PM
2

Women have a value in the eyes of society because they can produce offspring.... This produces a lot of mechanics To be fair, it produces artists and philosophers as well. 😉
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/24 06:23 AM
1

Aw SNAP
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/02/24 06:16 AM
23

According to that research, no: the women found nothing problematic about inherent preferences of the sexes determining career paths.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 10:22 PM
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No, I see that was confusing: I meant we endorse OP's view. The other OP doesn't, it's true, but as you say, a lot of people are pushing back on that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 09:06 PM
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On the other hand, my disagreement with the left stems from their expectation for men to act as uncompensated workhorses for women's safety, solely because of a generalized notion that "men are bad." This is definitely the view endorsed here! That's a "regressive left" perspective, really... there's an active thread you should check out that addresses this point, among others.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 07:27 PM
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Not very often do I feel you can judge a book by its cover but... what a smug bitch. I'm sure that male criminals don't have any sort of traumatic history, only the poor sweet little innocent girl convicts. "Norway and Belgium have previously sent prisoners from their overcrowded jails to hired prison cells in the Netherlands, which has a surplus." You mean if we stop arresting people for things that don't actually harm anyone, we won't have as many criminals to house?? 🤯
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/24 07:59 PM
1

My brother in Christ, there are still former slaves here!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/01/24 12:18 AM
1

Yeah, play dumb all you want, guys. It ain't hard to figure out, although the sloppiness with which TERF is thrown around makes it seem more parallel to "incel." That's not my fault, though.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/01/24 09:02 PM
1

Then what's wrong with using the men's room and everybody just chilling out?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 02:20 AM
1

Unless, feminists publish an apology and do an ideological course-correction, they don't really regret anything. Well, one would hope they wouldn't keep such a lightbulb moment to themselves!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/24 12:33 AM
1

Doesn't much matter if they get away with it, just whether they commit it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 07:30 PM
2

bodymaps based on their life experience/knowledge up to that point It would exist without knowledge or experience, its physical in the brain. That's not how brains work. Proprioception has to be learned; we don't just come with built-in maps (and even if we did, they'd be prepubescent maps). The brain has no way of knowing a priori what sex/gender it is, much less which it isn't; this is why intersex conditions can be such mindfucks. There's no evidence for trans bodymaps, which would require ex…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 07:26 PM
2

Then gender theory is right-wing too. Which kinda tracks, actually.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 06:45 PM
1

Again: I don't know what confused you, but I've answered everyone else's questions. It isn't everyone one reading it but you. You set the bar so high...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 06:43 PM
3

I was pleasantly surprised by Prager v. Pakman, but yeah. Fuck conservatism I'm pretty sure the clean your room thing has to do with changing the system rather than depression, but I myself find committing to maintenance and hygiene helpful when depressed. More of a dishes guy though...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 06:25 PM
2

I see how the title was misleading. I didn't mean leftist MRAs are the original trans-exclusionary radfems; I meant we were the first to be dismissed with: "you say you care about your rights, but really you are just trying to take our rights away because you hate us."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 10:20 AM
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All that means is that biological males are excluded from consideration as women. They also think biological males are inevitably and irremediably evil, due to culture mind you, but in a sort of unavoidable way, so it might as well be genetic by then. That's a bit extreme, but it makes clear enough that misandry/androphobia is the issue, not transphobia. They refuse trans women on the basis of them being 'contaminated' by the evil male socialization. And if push comes to shove, because they don'…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 10:14 AM
1

There are other options than super submissive trad wife and super rebel butch army girl. Of course. But I don't think Big Red is butch, much less Rowling. TERFs are radical feminists, is the point, and so cannot be right-wing. The trans women I know shown zero interest in competitive sports at any level, or prisons, at any level. I once spent a week in jail with a trans woman cellie... she had the option, but chose to be with men because she likes dick. Hard not to find that somewhat unfair...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 09:50 AM
1

I see where you're coming from. I don't actually believe that all radical feminists hate men, though. They are certainly encouraged to by the Duluth Model and other such purveyors of bogus stats and bunk psychology. When Rowling, undoubtedly brainwashed by Duluth when she escaped her abusive ex-husband, worries about trans women (or, more accurately, men posing as trans women), her misandry/androphobia is based in no small part on misinformation deliberately implanted by the Duluth Model. But ev…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 08:52 AM
0

conservatives picked up on it, and pretend to support men You think conservatives are secretly feminists or even egalitarians?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 08:33 AM
2

This is exactly the same argument as "Saying trans people are disgusting groomer pedo sinner pervert demons isn't transphobia when there are people killing trans people". No it is not. Both of those groups unambiguously hate trans people. You're drawing a line arbitrarily. Saying a trans woman is "technically still a man" is transphobia. To call a trans woman a "female-identifying man" is to accept her gender identity (and pronouns!). Gender and sex are not the same thing, right? So where's the …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 08:30 AM
1

Bathroom and locker room access is very basic to dignity. All parties agree on this point, obviously. In fact we should have unisex bathroom and locker rooms, with cubicles for privacy. Sure, that's fair and sensible. But it's also not the world we presently live in—getting there would require considerable outlays of time and money. So whose dignity should be favored until then? Do the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few? There is no reason you would want to expose yourself just beca…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 07:55 AM
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Because they favor women? Because they are radical feminists, aka Limbaugh's Feminazis. They are most assuredly not tradwives. As I previously suggested, everything we know about Big Red is consistent with her being a TERF. She's a misandrist, and that is what is misconstrued as transphobia among TERFs. They're also far from being about equality, and of course, they're anti-trans for anti-men reasons. They also don't like gay or bisexual men. Well, any man, but they're not more enamored with the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 07:42 AM
1

Gamergate opposition was based on being maligned for being male and gamer (everything else is stereotype stapled to it), TERF opposition is maligned based on hating trans (women, as they mostly pity trans men). Discomfort with opening women's spaces to biological men does not entail hating trans women. As a white man, I presume I am disqualified from leadership positions within the NAACP; does the NAACP therefore hate white men? Surely not. So basically, outrage at being vilified for being male …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 07:28 AM
1

The key point is in the E in TERF. They’re exclusionary All that means is that biological males are excluded from consideration as women. They—we—don't get a seat at the table, regardless of how progressive our politics or how feminized our bodies. As I said, this amounts to a resistance to Gender Studies supplanting Women's Studies. And that's nothing particularly radical, much less regressive. How seriously do any of us take it, after all, when we are told that feminism isn't just for women, t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 06:56 AM
1

Interesting... but tell me more: how are they so ideologically opposed? Personally, I see Rowling as being motivated by Duluth Model misandry rather than by transphobia, and this is a clear difference from our views, but why couldn't a TERF recognize the parallel I point out and have a lightbulb moment?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 02:00 AM
0

But TERFs are radical feminists and therefore leftist by definition. There are no right-wing radical feminists. Actual TERFs (NOT Posie Parker) are no more regressive than we are; that was my whole point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 01:53 AM
3

It seems like a lot of people refuse to believe misandry exists, because the main people who talk about misandry are right-wing, tradcon, bigots. Yup. Good to see people here are capable of understanding that...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 12:43 AM
2

Are there any particular ambiguities that you might present as potentially leading to a misreading of my post? I think I get what you're saying generally but some concrete examples would help me out here. ETA: everybody seems to understand the issue when it's confined to progressives dismissing us; how does the comparison to what TERFs are experiencing make everyone so confused?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/24 12:35 AM
3

Leftist, MRA, TERFs, TRAs, RF, misogynist, misandrist… Ideally don’t use these terms; they mean nothing. Sorry, what? I don't know where to begin. Patriarchy means nothing, I can get behind that. But if leftist MRAs doesn't describe this sub's audience, what "plain English" would?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 10:55 PM
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I don't know what confused you, but I've answered everyone else's questions. At least, I think I did. What remains unclear? The topic is: "Leftists who hold principled positions superficially similar to those of right-wingers, and the people who dismiss their heterodoxy as self-evident bigotry." ETA: The first half of my point seems obvious to everyone when considered in isolation. What's so confusing about saying, "(genuine radfem) TERFs are to trans rights as we are to feminism"? One might dis…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 10:42 PM
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It's not an argument so much as an observation, namely that TERFs and leftist MRAs both get their principled objections to identity politics dismissed out of hand as Trojan Horses for regressive bigotry/sexism. I realized while writing, however, that anti-affirmative action but genuinely non-racist white people would be a third example, yet I realized I could see feeling disinclined to extend the same benefit of the doubt to them, and briefly explored why this might be.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 09:47 PM
5

What do you mean when you say (wo)men? Is this an intersex or trans term? No no no. I mean to imply one reading as being what leftist MRAs are told by feminists who dismiss us as misogynists or antifeminists; read (wo)men as just "men" for that. The second reading is what TERFs are told by TRAs who dismiss them as transphobic; read (wo)men as "women" for that. What do you mean when you say us? Leftist MRAs, the people of this sub. You need to be more specific about your terms; what is “woke gate…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 09:33 PM
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By no means do I hold calls for violence as the criterion for transphobia, misandry, racism, etc. But those early Rowling tweets are only transphobic if one begs the question and assumes trans women to be women no less than cis women, full stop, without any argument having been made. It's disingenuous to call that transphobia when there are real transphobes out there saying "you're a disgusting groomer pedo sinner pervert demon" while Rowling is saying "you're technically still a man." Trans rig…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 09:14 PM
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Could some of it also be provisional diagnoses that turn out not to be the case, something along the lines of "we want to rule out XYZ, so I'm going to put you on ABC and we'll see what things look like in 6–8 weeks"? I can see women getting a lot more of that
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/24 11:48 AM
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Yet the FBI's hate crime report indicates that gay men are targeted more than the whole rest of the rainbow combined.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/24 06:07 AM
1

Buddy, spend some time healing at r/BPDlovedones
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 03:46 AM
1

does this hit different?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/01/24 03:44 AM
1

Yeah, rolling those two together is an interesting decision.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/01/24 03:15 AM
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"9 out of 10 white people feel uncomfortable around black people" Women's fear of random men is out of proportion to genuine risk, then via surveys it gets rolled into the statistics used to induce more free-floating anxiety.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/01/24 04:48 AM
1

Yeah, that's an automatic BPD diagnosis right there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/01/24 10:41 PM
1

That's more demisexual, innit?
/r/MensRights06/01/24 10:35 PM
1

"My ex was a narcissist" is the mating call of the untreated borderline.
/r/MensRights06/01/24 10:23 PM
1

Based
/r/MensRights06/01/24 10:19 PM
2

Septum? Damn near killed 'em!
/r/MensRights06/01/24 10:18 PM
1

Seeing a dentist isn't a bad thing either, but telling someone they ought to is a delicate matter at best.
/r/MensRights06/01/24 10:18 PM
1

here you go...
/r/MensRights06/01/24 10:07 PM
1

You mean "magick."
/r/MensRights06/01/24 10:03 PM
2

More what I was getting at was that any criticism whatsoever of trans = TERF. You're right, of course, that this results in non-TERFs being called TERFs. What I wonder is whether at some point the penny will drop for actual TERFs and they'll realize how unfair they've been to MRAs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/01/24 09:18 AM
2

Then they ain't TERFs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/01/24 01:37 AM
2

I wonder if any TERFs have noticed their persecution operates under the same dynamic.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 08:31 PM
3

In the Reddit dialect of wokespeak, I'm an intersex incel TERF. Zero thought is going into the language game at this point.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/01/24 08:27 PM
1

Yes indeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/12/23 10:11 PM
8

Doesn't the fact that lesbian IPV is twice as frequent as gay IPV establish that the asymmetry goes the other way?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/12/23 07:22 AM
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