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How are men being treated like second class citizens? You seem to keep blurring the line between sexual marketplace and public square. We strive for equality in the public square. The sexual marketplace is supposed to be competitive. The fact that it is more competitive now is better for the species overall. In the sexual marketplace, nobody deserves anything. You have to earn it. You are not guaranteed sex or a wife. This is not treating men as second class citizens.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:11 PM
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The lack of social connections at work is the complaint of Gen Z entering the workforce. They don’t want to live life on the internet and devices all day, they want to meet and work in person. Be part of a community. There’s studies on your generation, they are quite revealing. Least amount of sex, drug use, alcohol use. Most academically focused. Y’all sure act like you’re preparing for the work world, whether or not you and your friends for that bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:07 PM
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That last line doesn’t happen. Instead your friend either returns to you and says “sorry she’s not interested” or they just say nothing and you get to live in blissful ignorance.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:01 PM
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Yeah you have to leave after. I thought that would have been obvious but good call. If you ask out someone at a party, you should do the same thing. Don’t overstay. Leave and make like you have other plans on the go. Leave it up to mystery.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:25 PM
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Exactly. Make it a joke. Compliment a piece of her clothing and ask where she bought it, like you’re interested in buying it for yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:24 PM
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When we talk about equality of the sexes, we are talking about in public life and in work and the law. Not whatever you’re talking about. You are the one claiming there should be equality in the sexual marketplace. I disagree. The sexual marketplace is competitive. The survival of our species depends on that fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:22 PM
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It’s something that’s being talked about more broadly by regular non-incel people. There is a friendship epidemic compared to 30 years ago as well. The idea centres around “third spaces”. Your first place is home, your second place is work. Third places are the other places you go where you can meet people. We are having less and less of these third spaces. It used to be the default for this was church. Church attendance isn’t what it used to be and it isn’t the social central pillar that it onc…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:18 PM
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Maybe make fun of you to their friends, nothing beyond that. unless you meet a true psychopath. That’s very rare and not gender specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:12 PM
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What does that have to do with less places to meet people? Are you replying to the right comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:06 PM
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I do think reading body language can be taught and this can help guys that struggle to read the room. I can sympathize for people who struggle with this. For me, I can almost feel what another person is feeling just by looking at them. It’s involuntary. I’ve broken this down to an autistic friend of mine a few times out at the bar, pointing out “see her arms are crossed, she is oriented away from the man, her legs are pointed away…she’s not interested in him” and my friend acted like I was Sherl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:03 PM
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What do you mean tricked into a date situation?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:58 PM
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I am imagining these guys sliding a paper that say “do you like me check yes or no”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:58 PM
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That is the conclusion being drawn by OP and other comments on this thread, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:57 PM
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To be honest, she abused you. And you seem hurt by it. This is why it’s a shitty thing to do to a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:55 PM
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Jesus fucking Christ my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:54 PM
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Both are creepy. “Hey, I’m going to be with some friends at this show tomorrow night, you should totally pop by” Is an acceptable ask. It doesn’t put the women on the spot to make a decision in front of your face. It gives her an out to say “I’m sorry but I have plans” without triggering you. In a meta sense this also shows you have fun no matter what and you have a good social circle, which makes you look more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:53 PM
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What is a social circle?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:50 PM
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How is it dangerous? Humiliating, yes, but dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:49 PM
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Women always give the first signal when it comes to cold approach. Their body language screams it. As a bartender, I could tell when two people were “vibing” before they ever say words to each other. I do think men on the spectrum have issues with deciphering this and it leads them into trouble and endless internet theories about women being liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:49 PM
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Can you translate this into English?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:47 PM
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Nobody here is offended by you. We are worried about you. You seem to have trouble understanding context.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:45 PM
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You have to be classier than that
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:44 PM
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You go to shared social events and ask your friend, “hey is your friend over there single?”. Don’t complain about being single unless it’s to other guy friends. I had a couple of friends in university who were lesbians. Best wing mates I’ve ever had. They were like my agent making business pitches to executives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:44 PM
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How are women responsible for there being less avenues to meet people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:41 PM
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You are a bit ignorant to what working conditions in other countries are like. We have it good in the US, relatively speaking. Worse than Europe but better than anyplace else. As a Canadian American, I can tell you that safety is taken MUCH more seriously by American companies than by Canadian companies. This is the positive side of a culture that adores law suits.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:40 PM
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How many men are genuinely interested in helping women as a whole? I reckon not many. The mixed messaging by society is the problem. The problem isn’t women. Women biologically get the ick from weak or depressing guys. They can’t help it. We have to accept that. Men have to know to keep that to themselves and their close friends/family. Because what often happens, I have witnessed this myself, is a guy starts to get to know a girl and then he does a trauma dump. I’ve seen this happen with guys w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:03 PM
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You need healthy weight explained to you? No wonder there is an obesity epidemic. Go talk to your doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:53 PM
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Everyone women is attractive if you look at them the right way. Meth heads and people with disfiguration excluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:02 PM
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It takes men more than 9 months. It takes constant effort. For women, what they go through with pregnancy and childbirth has no parallel in men. It is different in that it is an automatic process. It happens to the women whether she tries to or not. This is what I mean by women have their rites of passage biologically, whereas men have to have an external rite of passage to prove themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:01 PM
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Women have intrinsic value. They are the incubators of life. The issue women face is trying to find value in society outside of that role. That is a very real issue that they face, but it’s decidedly different than what men face. There is a reason many tribal societies have a rite of passage for men, but not for women. For women, the rite of passage happens automatically. It’s called puberty. Men have to earn it through a trial. This dichotomy is present across the globe in multiple cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:59 PM
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I’m not sure that’s true…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:16 PM
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Good facial hair cut for your face and keep it clean. I’m a big proponent of the “every guy is a 7” theory. Get in shape, get a fresh hair and facial hair cut, get some fitting clothes. Any guy who does this is a 7. Add in personality and you’re in that magical top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:33 PM
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25% is overweight, >30% is obese. You don’t have to be obese to get face gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:30 PM
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They don’t mean depressed whiny men. They mean men who can cry at a sunset. Nobody likes to be around depression. You have to dig yourself out of that and rely on family and your closest friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:24 PM
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Per your TikTok guy, I would argue it’s our puritanical culture that says men aren’t allowed to find women attractive. The frustration comes from seeing those pictures of women and feeling feelings that you have been taught are inappropriate. So they get mad at women for making them “sin”. I had a few middle eastern Muslim friends in university, they had to deal with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:04 PM
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You would be shocked at the “face gains” people get from losing weight
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:00 PM
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Nobody is inherently valuable. This needs to be taught in schools. You have to work and grind to provide value. Participation trophies ruined a generation of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:00 PM
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Mine has the same policy but it’s not enforced.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:55 PM
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Whatever the reason, men have been taught to leave women in public alone. If women have a problem with not being approached in public, I don’t have much sympathy for that. You’re a human being yourself, go say hi if you want. Don’t expect men to make the first move in public while telling men to NOT do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:55 PM
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Why would that have any relevance to western women? Western women can pick from a wide selection of western men, they don’t need to be picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:32 PM
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Exactly. I only go to the gym at off hours because I don’t want some scum bag posting a video of my fat ass on TikTok. I’ve left if there are women taking selfies. Not risking having my reputation locally completely ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:27 PM
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Since woman are the ones at physical risk of rape or death from a man, they should be the ones initiating. A whole generation of men has been taught that they are all potential rapists. “Every man can rape” I was taught. One in five men are rapists, I was taught. We got the message and we act accordingly. We are trying to make a safer world for women. The women complaining about this need to give their head a shake, society did this for your benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:25 PM
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Conservative women can do whatever they want, doesn’t concern me. I mean for the majority of women that are liberal.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 01:15 PM
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And this is why you don’t cold approach in public. If she pulled out her phone and blasted you on social media, your career could be ruined. And yes, this happens all the time. I’m in a neighborhood social group. People record each other and try to dox each other all the time. Over the pettiest shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:24 PM
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Women have been complaining about random men approaching them for decades. Sorry if some men heard that messaging and act accordingly. But I was raised to leave a women in public alone. Just by approaching a woman, you put her in a dangerous situation. She doesn’t know if you’re safe or not. Woman deserve or exist in public without being threatened. That’s what I was taught. Women need to learn to talk and engage themselves. It’s 2023. If you’re complaining that men aren’t lining up for you, I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:22 PM
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What kind of interesting conversation could I have with you? You are young. Live life. Don’t waste it in front of the TV. Do something fun and interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:20 AM
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I was dating a girl and she started talking about how gay people are all going to burn in hell and they are destroying America. Huge ick, and yes I judged her as a whole based on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:17 AM
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In my area, they shut down over Covid and never recovered. Our downtown is now a homeless wasteland and many of the clubs have closed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:15 PM
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There aren't many places to meet people once you leave school.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:24 PM
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I live in a small city, and it’s the only online dating app that people use. We don’t have the population for more, it kinda naturally aggregated to Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:11 PM
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Once you’re in late 20s/early 30s it gets much more normal. Everyone at that point has seen shit in their life and just wants to find someone attractive enough to fuck and stable.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:10 PM
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I think most men at this point are kinda “whatever” about having kids. If you’re big into having kids, you’re probably religious, and you probably got married and started having kids young.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:51 PM
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Because every guy on here thinks they are the Alpha male, even though nature doesn’t work like that. So they get offended. They think rejecting women at this point proves they are “alpha” but really it’s sad and pathetic. Face the music, you ain’t the alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 06:50 PM
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Debatable. Mark is the favourite choice for the billionaire brawl because he’s athletic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:50 PM
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Women seem to be doing just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:40 PM
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What did he say the problem was then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:37 PM
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I’ve had men friends like this. Eventually you have to just cut them off. Always depressed, always whining, “woe is me” type shit. It’s annoying and grating and absolutely pushes people away.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:26 AM
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These guys believe therapy is a conspiracy to brainwash men with blue pill rhetoric. They are beyond saving to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:24 AM
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It’s this. Women like guys who are chill. Low key. Laid back. Small emotional expressions. They don’t want a guy who is a ball of stress and anxiety and depression and self esteem issues. Who would?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:23 AM
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Women receive sympathy from other women. Women’s issues don’t get sympathy on this sub. So don’t expect mens issues to get sympathy on subs like 2x.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:20 AM
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There is a difference between emotional men and broken men. Women don’t want broken men. They don’t want to be someone’s mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:19 AM
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Her expectation IS the norm. What isn’t the norm is social media commentary. Normal people don’t post on gender culture war subs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:18 AM
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Women are not your therapists. Also, I don’t see women’s issues getting much sympathy on this sub. It’s the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:17 AM
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I was on a date once. It was going amazing. Heading towards her place for some “hot coffee”. Then she gets a call from her roommate, saying that her cat died. She rushed home. I thought as you did. Never contacted her again. One year later, I bump into her. She apologizes for leaving me that night and not messaging me…her cat did actually die. Then summer vacation then school. She felt super embarrassed. We went out again after that. Sometimes, it is what it is. Play dumb but protect yourself. M…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:32 AM
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Sometimes nothing is “wrong”, you just aren’t attracted anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:19 AM
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Aka a comedy show for women. Not a documentary.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:28 PM
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They are pretty much the same thing. Nothing covering the ass, front package barely contained.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:25 PM
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You meant the show Sex and the City, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:24 PM
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Swimsuit like a one piece?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:20 PM
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It’s called a Speedo for men. It’s been a thing for decades. Nobody cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:19 PM
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Do you live in LA or something? The women at my local gym are normal ass women. I don’t think I’ve even seen one taking Instagram pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:16 PM
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An HBO comedy is your source of truth?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:14 PM
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People used to meet at Church. Now that’s dead. People used to meet at work. Now that’s dying and everything is becoming a remote job. Pretty soon, if you don’t meet someone in high school you will be screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 09:49 PM
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You need to go back to sex ed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:21 PM
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There are plenty of women like this, you just don’t notice them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:20 PM
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People just don’t go out like they used to. I mean before Netflix and broadband internet, when you had to go outside for entertainment. My downtown used to be packed on Thursday-Saturday. Within ten years it’s become a ghost town and clubs/pubs are closing or moving.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:18 PM
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I assume you mean rape and forced marriages? If so, then we really can’t use the past as a guide for how many men should naturally reproduce. Since tons of guys back then only got to have sex via rape or arranged marriage. Given that only like 60% of men reproduced from those times, we should expect the natural number to be even less.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:15 PM
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That’s not even true according to the red pill lore. I thought women dated up? A bad attorney is still an attorney.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:12 PM
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Or worse, getting mad that they matched an “ugly” girl and start mocking them. A few girls I know had this experience and just deleted the app for good.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:10 PM
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How many women died giving birth? Life was dangerous for everyone back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:08 PM
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If you’re groping women, then that’s definitely the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 08:07 PM
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We already do that. How much more pushback could someone like Andrew Tate get? Shit was on the news. He still gets millions of followers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:23 PM
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We already do that. How much more pushback could someone like Andrew Tate get? Shit was on the news. He still gets millions of followers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 04:23 PM
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He told me “all of those girls, if they saw me with my shirt off, would sleep with me”. I don’t know what he was doing, but I do know he didn’t end up sleeping with any of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:48 PM
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Men and women being treated equally =\= men and women are the same. I think you missed some of the messaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:35 PM
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Maybe? I will give you an example. A group of girls were talking about living together and having some chickens so they can have eggs. They were vegans but would eat eggs if they were from their own chickens. One guy sitting with them starting talking about how he has killed chickens with his bare hands and he knows how to skin them and make use of every part of the animal. That kind of socially tone deaf topics, especially when they invoke some violence, creeps people out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:33 PM
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Aren’t there first and second generation Indians in the UK? Might be a good crowd to join
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:17 PM
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It is an individual decision to sacrifice one area for the other. I cannot say one is objectively worse. I will say that I tried to live like you describe for a few years. Had an OK but dead end job, had some hobbies. But I was miserable. Then I decided to pursue a career. Now I’m doing very well, I have work that I am proud of doing, and that confidence bleeds into those other parts of my life. I do something everyday that gives me confidence and a sense of achievement. I used to be a full on p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:16 PM
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I agree. My point was there isn’t much we can do, there will always be “get rich quick” schemes targeting them. We can’t create an alternative framework for them because the very notion of a step by step guide is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:09 PM
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I enjoy what I do for work. It’s not so miserable as you describe. I have an area of my life where I am skilled and where I have a social network. These are good things.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 02:08 PM
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Are you though? You self identify as a neck beads and you are on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:35 PM
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I don’t know where you live, but no. I just want my own small place for myself. That requires busting my ass at work. That’s how life works. Your advice here is 20 years out of date.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:33 PM
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Of course you are. Motivated people who decide to engage in life don’t have this defeatist attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:24 PM
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You spend most of your day at work. Taking ownership and pride in your work is a good thing. You are what you do, and you do work most of your time. Nevermind the fact that you will live a life of poverty unless you keep moving up that ladder. Shit gets harder and harder for people on the bottom every year, in case you haven’t noticed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:22 PM
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The issue is with the idea of step by step instructions. Human beings and human relationships don’t work like that. There is nuance. The blue pill advice is the only advice that “works”. Improve yourself, be yourself, and it might happen. But that’s not step by step with a guarantee of results like red pill, so autistic men will be drawn to red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:17 PM
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Or he just met a women early in his career and they hooked up. Not everything is 4D chess.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:09 PM
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You should do self improvement for yourself, and it’s a lifelong process. If you are only improving yourself to get laid, you already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:08 PM
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The issue is that autistic men will always be drawn to the step by step instructions. That’s how we are wired to perceive the world. I agree that a step by step guide to human interaction is impossible, but it will always be the more appealing option even if it’s flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:07 PM
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Over 80% of people are in relationships. The experience of women “en masse” is fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:03 PM
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Being autistic is like being one of those guys that was born in Zion and can’t jack into the matrix. Yeah they can read the green code on the screen and interpret it, but they can’t experience the Matrix the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:02 PM
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Indian dating in India, or the West? Most Indian immigrants I know are partnered with another Indian. Not too much different than other ethnic groups. I don’t see much inter racial relationships, but part of that is that I live in Canada which doesn’t promote integration.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:00 PM
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Why would you take the advice that is less likely to work for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:57 PM
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Married women who are more attractive than their husband report higher marital and sexual satisfaction than the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:57 PM
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Have you seen his wife? Mark married a normal women. Not a super model. Not a pro surfer. Regular ass midwestern women. The kind of women that his sub would reject and mock. I don’t doubt he could have landed her with a warehouse job.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:54 PM
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I don’t believe many men are “too ugly” for blue pill advice either. It’s just guys are aiming too high. Either recognize the level you are at and date accordingly, or grind to improve. Every man who spends a year at the gym, gets a professional haircut, and some new fitting clothes is a 7. Personality and charm can bring you into that magical “top 20%” of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:52 PM
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Right, and you learn to do that in therapy. Therapy is the only solution for people with autism, there is no medication for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:49 PM
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I also probably have autism. I got a similar education working as a bartender. You kinda have to keep an eye out for sketchy guys (college town, spiking drinks was common) and the give away of a creepy guy was always how women reacted to them. Body language, tone of voice all are forms of communication. Thanks for the book recommendation, I will check it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 12:47 PM
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It’s my dream goal to have a partner who also works in tech. But as you said, very few women in this field and all are partnered up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:27 PM
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Exercise is something every human should be doing. It’s not “extra”.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:13 PM
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Teen isn’t even on the top ten. Top three are hentai, lesbian, then milf. Source: https://nypost.com/2021/12/15/pornhub-reveals-2021s-most-popular-searches-in-america/amp/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:11 PM
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I told her why I can’t be in a relationship with her and ended it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:08 AM
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No. No. No. It came out a few months in when she made a comment about gay people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:06 AM
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Paid for sex = sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:59 PM
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I dated a religious girl. It took a few months to realize she was hardcore about it. Too hardcore for me. Should I have known? Maybe. But we aren’t born with all knowledge, we learn as we go.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:54 PM
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The missing part for these guys is confidence. There are levels to friendship. Levels of openness, of vulnerability. A lot of guys will do trauma or depression dumping to someone who isn’t at the right level. This is just a buzz kill for anyone. Save this for your close friends, your ride and dies, and your family. For most friendships, at least at the start, you kinda gotta use social media rules. Only upbeat positive “posts”. Be upbeat, be a positive and encouraging person. Don’t be a doomsday…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:41 PM
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Some of the best couples I know started like this. They already know what they’re getting into and tend to get along really well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:31 PM
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Let’s say the guy gets fit and gets a great job in a couple of years. You don’t think the girl can change her mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:28 PM
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I’ve seen it often enough to know it happens. Especially with large friend circles like in university. I was a bartender for a while. Got lots of “I need your advice as a guy” questions from drunk university girls. Women’s attraction is a lot more circumstantial and fluid then men, in my experience. Men make that yes/no decision within 5 seconds of meeting a women, but women are more flexible and have more variables.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:25 PM
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Yeah the reasons are usually “I’m already in a relationship.” 30% of marriages, one or both partners was in another relationship when they first met. Guys on here want friendships/relationships to be categorized like an app, but real life doesn’t work that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:21 PM
1

Those are both superficial reasons. Sometimes it’s just “I don’t feel it”.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:02 PM
2

Right. Jonah Hill dated this person, found them incompatible, and they broke up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:47 PM
1

I’ve never had such a conversation before starting a relationship. A relationship doesn’t start with a contract negotiation. It just…happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:46 PM
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I am fortunate enough to have had some relationships, and I have two younger sisters, so a lot of the “men are this, women are that” stuff doesn’t work on me. I was a bartender at a “club” that was half college students and half regular people townies. The only thing that is true of men and women is that they are all different. I almost fell down the incel rabbit hole, until I snapped out of it. I equally sympathize with these guys, and despise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:45 PM
2

Sometimes, you get in a relationship, and nobody is doing anything wrong…it just doesn’t work out. No actionable advice, just different personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:39 PM
4

I thought ghosting was just…disappearing on someone. Ending the relationship because you’re not compatible is normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:38 PM
2

You asked what an average man in your age bracket looks like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:30 PM
1

How much do you make?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:24 PM
3

To be honest, get off this sub before it rots your brain. It’s mostly teenagers who’ve never been outside their basement. And guys from India and other countries with completely different social standards. Guys writing a bunch of fanfiction and theories. This place is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:24 PM
2

I wouldn’t say social media is an accurate reflection of a persons personality
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:24 PM
3

I think the releasing of texts is much more egregious an offence than getting into the wrong relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:20 PM
5

Like not putting two year old text messages from your ex on social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:17 PM
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That’s the context that needs to be remember here. These texts were from two years ago. Jonah is in a new relationship with a child on the way. This is just a bitter ex girlfriend trying to cancel Jonah as revenge.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:09 PM
1

What if you don’t realize you are incompatible until after you start dating?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:06 PM
5

Have you read the texts? Jonah wasn’t trying to control. He seemed very respectful but he was just saying that this lifestyle isn’t for him. What is a guy to do if he starts a relationship then finds it’s a lifestyle mismatch? If leaving the relationship is just manipulation, then what can a guy do?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:05 PM
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Exercising has been a huge mental health game changer for me. It needs to stay as a permanent hobby. So any potential relationship has to support that activity. To that end, I would want a girl who goes to the gym everyday. I go to the local Y, so there isn’t really a problem of TikTok influencers and stuff. It’s the same handful of girls that are regulars there, and they’ve been coming for months/years. The absolute most unattractive quality in a partner that I’ve found is something an ex said …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:51 PM
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Of course it’s not and guys that say otherwise are weirdos. That’s like saying women at the beach are obvious dressing like sluts for attention. It’s the friggen beach bro. If seeing a women in a bikini or sport top makes you feel feelings, that’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:46 PM
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100% agree. You have to factor in the damage potential when looking at this. I have a jelly bean jar. Eating most of them will be an incredible experience. But there’s a 1/30 chance it will kill you or put to in the hospital. Would you eat one?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 02:39 PM
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They don’t “carry the DNA”. There is nothing to think about.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 05:01 AM
2

A fish is not aware that it is swimming in water. You would not be aware of the extent that culture has influenced you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:30 PM
0

Where did they mention feminism?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:28 PM
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That’s so weird. My life is a slow burning dumpster fire, but on social media I look like I’m living my best life. Because I don’t post my woes on social media, only my wins. But I thought everyone knew this! It’s sad that people believe so easily this stuff. People didn’t fall for reality tv like this, why do they for social media?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:37 PM
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Everyone can make a guess yeah. Doesn’t mean anything. Like I said, nobody thinks I’m single when they meet me. I have a large group of friends, I’m involved in charity, I am respectful and polite. My friends are shocked when they learn I’m single.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:09 PM
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This is satire, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:05 PM
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My friends don’t know I’m single, unless it’s come up in conversation. I’m a man of a certain age, I am polite and respectful…people assume I have a partner. They are shocked when they learn I don’t. So you can’t really judge, because most guys aren’t going around in real life debating gender dynamics. It’s something I think about, talk about on here, but in real life I don’t talk about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:05 PM
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Yeah…no. Good way to get a reputation. When you are doing shared activities, conversation happens naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:51 PM
1

Which post?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:47 PM
1

No, don’t cold approach like that. Do hobby groups and stuff so you have a reason to be talking to people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:41 PM
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It happens naturally given the right mindset and setting. Part of it is, I really believe, guys on the autistic spectrum. The inability to pick up on and respond to social cues makes them isolated. I think a lot of the incel theories come from high-functioning autistic guys who are above average intelligence. They are trying to Vulcan logic their way through human social communication, and it doesn’t work. Part of it, I think, is gaming. Teenage boys are not going out to the mall to hang out or …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:23 PM
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It’s based on that idea, but that idea is false. Men have, in fact, rejected advances before. Even single guys. This idea is harmful. I was propositioned by a girl at my work. Very explicitly, like “I am here wet waiting for you”. She was very attractive. She was also…kinda off, and I wasn’t interested so I said no. She got suicidal because “if you won’t sleep with me, nobody will and I will die alone”. She would not take “I’m just not interested” as an answer, and kept badgering me about her lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:07 PM
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Everyone has their own opinions. People saying what they think is right and wrong…that’s them stating their opinion. They do have a right to say that, because everyone is allowed an opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:42 AM
0

Do I have proof that actors exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 12:59 AM
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Ever heard of actors? You are gullible if you use Andrew Tate as evidence. Are you 12 years old?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 11:04 PM
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Yes, you can easily fake this. Approach 1000 women. Record all interactions. Edit together the 5 times the women was interested. Boom, you look like a certified player. It’s fake
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 10:05 PM
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Emotionally healthy people are capable of being vulnerable and opening up. Your emotions are like your bodies sensor systems. They give you important messages. Listen to them to decipher the message. But you are the captain of the ship. You steer. Having emotional awareness allows you to observe emotions without being driven by them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:41 PM
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And fruitless. That’s why guys will come on here and complain that they went to the bar once and didn’t get laid. Do things you are interested in, and that will make you appear interesting to other people. Shocking concept. If you’re a fun times good times vibe kinda person, you will attract people. Men. Women. Children. Dogs. People that go out and look miserable and lonely and anxious give off a dangerous vibe. I think a lot of the men here fall into the latter category.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:19 PM
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That would mean the average “Chad” is an a polyamorous relationship with at least two women. Yet I’ve never seen this and I meet people regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:15 PM
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But you take seriously the assertion that twice as many men are single as women? How is that mathematically even possible? Your biases are clouding your judgment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:55 PM
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The Pew study is flawed. It’s nowhere close to that difference. https://ifstudies.org/blog/theres-no-huge-gender-gap-in-being-single-among-young-adults
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:47 PM
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More men aren’t single than before. Your premise is false. We had a blip in singleness over Covid, it’s already returned to baseline. Latest studies show women more likely to be single and sexless than men. It just appears to be growing because of social media like Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:32 PM
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Things you experience yourself, not second or third hand gossip. Especially don’t trust edited videos from red pill bloggers. Any video can be edited to portray whatever message you want. If you don’t believe reality tv is real, then don’t believe these YouTube videos.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:05 PM
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I agree with you. The same number of guys are lonely now as compared to previously. It’s just that we have social media to aggregate this content so it appears to be this massive society-threatening issue. Really it’s a nothing burger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 03:02 PM
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Self control means being the driver of yourself, not a passenger to the emotions. This is important outside of dating as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:48 PM
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You have a six figure job, and you look at your train wreck of a friend and get jealous? Multiple kids with multiple women is a life goal of yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:35 PM
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This has actually been verified by studies. There is a gap in confidence between 105 and 115 IQ. People in that range are intelligent enough to know they know nothing. People lower on IQ have dumb confidence. People higher have confidence due to their intelligence. The slightly above average people have shit confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:32 PM
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You can tell a confident person by the way they stand, by the way they talk. Even animals can pick this up. I don’t mean to be mean, but unless you have autism, this should be obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:31 PM
1

6-7 is above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:27 PM
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It appears to be a larger problem than it is, because this sub is for people that are struggling. Only 1 in 5 people in the young adult age range is single. The vast vast vast majority of people are still coupling up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:26 PM
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Yeah I had an ex like this. Would pull up Facebook and mock their ex boyfriends with her roommates. Really gross. Luckily this isn’t something that applies to all women. It’s just a red flag to look out for.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:23 PM
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It depends on the crowd. I know plenty of guys 20-40 that still talk like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 02:20 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:39 PM
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Not a performance or a dance. Actual self control. Why do people here act like self improvement is impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:07 PM
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…ok wow. Lot to unpack there. Women have their own struggles. To be treated equally, for one. You wish for something you don’t understand. I will say this as someone who has been in relationships; it doesn’t fix you. It doesn’t magically cure depression. Ultimately, with or without a partner, it’s up to you to lead a meaningful and fulfilled life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:08 PM
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You have a female avatar, that’s why I assumed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:01 PM
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I can’t solve your depression through debate. You are your own roadblock here, and if you can’t admit that then nothing will change. Have a good one
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 11:00 PM
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Confidence comes from your ability to overcome obstacles. Nobody has life perfectly lined up, that’s not what brings confidence. Being skilled enough to handle challenges is what brings confidence. If you live a life with no challenges and no growth, you can’t be confident. Call it what you want, your life is owed to people who sought to better themselves. It’s good, healthy energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:50 PM
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No idea who that is, sorry. Google says it’s either a North Carolina politician, a Sims streamer or a Pokémon collector.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:45 PM
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Everybody has things they can improve upon. Everybody. Nobody is perfect, wouldn’t you agree? I know there is a culture of shedding any responsibility for yourself and your personal situation. The victim complex. This is an unhealthy cultural attitude. If you live in North America and you aren’t aboriginal, then you are the result of people trying to improve themselves and their situation. The only constant is change. You will change over time, whether you want to or not. Best to have an active …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:43 PM
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Sex isn’t that expensive. If you just put yourself out there enough, you will find someone. Especially as a woman. Join some hobby clubs, go to the farmers market. Live life and things will work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:38 PM
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Everybody should engage in self improvement. For themselves. Don’t encourage complacency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:35 PM
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What does it mean then? Treating women as less than equal…how?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:34 PM
2

I’ve seen that with people that lose it too fast. People taking Ozempic for example. If you lose 1-2 pounds a week, the skin adapts.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:57 PM
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Is that based on any experiences or is it just…an uninformed opinion? I’ve seen tons of people “glow up” after they lose weight. The problem is they have to maintain that healthy lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:49 PM
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Maybe it’s just me, but I find most people who are in healthy shape to be attractive. There’s usually something to like somewhere. I’ve met some incredible looking 40 and 50 year old women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:30 PM
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Yes, and everyone knows those things. Exercise, have a career, good hygiene, have a social life. Basic human being stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:17 PM
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Because I am enjoying life and you are clearly not. That’s how I know. You can get better but you have to acknowledge that you need help. It won’t happen by itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:50 PM
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Is jerking off a hobby? It’s closer to that. Free dopamine slot machine instead of working towards something
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:17 PM
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What are things that are almost guaranteed? I can’t think of anything. Not housing, not food, not employment. Not a loving family or spouse. Yet people still go out there and try, every day. I’m not going to be able to internet debate you out of depression. Seek help for that, and your life will open up afterwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:16 PM
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Right, and again that’s all well and good. As long as these people recognize they are participating in an socially isolating hobby with no return value.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:12 PM
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Of course. Some would spend their last day with people, others alone playing vidya. But the people that choose the latter shouldn’t complain about being lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:26 PM
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Nothing in life is guaranteed. Why do you get up in the morning?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:11 PM
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If the only day that is guaranteed is today, then you should spend it outside with people enjoying life. Not alone in the dark staring at a screen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:59 PM
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It all comes back to the fact that we can’t control or enforce woman’s attraction. This dynamic will always exist, and it will never be “fair” in the way that guys want. Guys seem to want some objective checklist of tasks that, if they complete them all, they are guaranteed a wife. That’s impossible, and people need to get over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:54 PM
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Cool. If you only play a couple of hours a week, then whatever. It’s like watching TV. But you know a lot of guys on here put hours in a day, right? The majority of my guy friends from school are like this. Just work and video games. And they wonder why they are depressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:52 PM
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They are childish. It’s a waste of valuable time. Pick up a hobby. Learn a skill. Go out into the world. Save video games for when you’re old and all you can do is sit in a chair. A guy with skills and hobbies is always going to be more attractive than some gamer bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:46 PM
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Yeah, do whatever you want in your spare time. Nobody is saying otherwise. But the guy who spends three years practicing guitar is going to be more attractive that the guy who spent three years playing World of Warcraft. That’s just facts. There are plenty of behaviours and hobbies that women have that are unattractive. It’s posted daily in this sub. For me, if they list their hobby as “Netflix and wine”, I’m not interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:32 PM
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It means stop playing video games and get a hobby. I don’t know if men realize how childish and juvenile video games are. They have negative sex appeal. Nobody except your friends from middle school care about how much you can grind in vidya. The best decision I ever made was selling my console and picking up a hobby. Now I’m on the path to a new lucrative career on that field. If I didn’t drop the video games, I’d still be at my old shit job working barely above minimum wage and spending the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:57 PM
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I would tell this hypothetical woman to also not complain. Beggars can’t be choosers, it should go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:07 PM
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Exactly, this is why women tend to date older men. Young guys are afraid of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:06 PM
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My area is to small (about 100k) so everything is on Tinder. The rest are graveyards. It really depends on your area.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 03:11 AM
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Online dating is the number one way people getting married have met. Depending on your area, it’s the de facto standard. You’re not supposed to rely on it but it’s an extra net that might catch some fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:44 AM
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Your poor understanding of evolution and blind trust of television is alarming
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:30 AM
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The epitome of facts about human nature…a fucking reality TV show.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 01:03 AM
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I know this is hard, but individual women can be cringe and have cringe opinions. That doesn’t mean the sum total of women secretly think that way. The vast vast majority of women say “no means no”. Stick with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:48 AM
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It’s the same animals that were in that area for thousands of years. Yes, women are doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:41 AM
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Yeah this is it bro 100%. You know they are all in a group chat carefully planning their messaging and running it by PR masterminds. Are women the Illuminati?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:34 AM
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Uh yup! Also, people on drugs like that will fuck anything. Be careful with advice from that time in your friends life. I’m sure if you get into the coke and meth scene, you can get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:33 AM
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It’s nice at first but it gets out of control quickly. Especially if and when you decide to end it. Shit can get crazy, I’m talking police involvement. They say “don’t put your dick in crazy” for a reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:23 AM
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The only take away is to unsubscribe from this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 10:43 PM
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This whole evolutionary theory has been debunked. As we can see in hunter gather tribes that still exist today, women also hunt. Men also gather. And no, these remote hunter gather tribes haven’t been infected with woke culture. This whole division of labour theory is bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:51 PM
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So do you want a return to classism and rigid norms? Your role decided for you at birth, no matter what your wish is? I would need to see stats on previous generations to seperate the reality from the stereotype. It’s been my understanding that, historically, only like 40% of guys reproduce. Meaning, the majority don’t. We appear to be in line with historical norms. Only 20% of men are not in a relationship, that’s pretty low all things considered.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 09:41 PM
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Apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:19 PM
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But the 30 year old virgins have spent years studying this stuff. They are experts! Have you seen the Tinder study, these guys will tell you all about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:08 PM
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When did you get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 08:06 PM
2

Arousing - wants to go to bed with tonight Attractive - wants to wake up to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:55 PM
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One study from ten years ago from an online dating website. A study that also showed women would still message men they found “below average” looking, while men would not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:50 PM
2

Eww male bums
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:49 PM
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Are we? We had a decline in relationships and sex over Covid. Like when everyone was shut in doors. It’s returning to normal now.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:48 PM
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Attractive as a partner and arousing are different things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:47 PM
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Humans have this capacity. Every human has this in their nature - both the impulses and the ability to resist the impulses. Animals don’t. This is what separates us from the animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:38 PM
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Chill bro. Just don’t encourage people to have children as a form of entertainment. That shouldn’t be controversial.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:33 PM
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This is probably the most real thing posted on this sub, and it’s going to upset some people. Dating and relationships are a game of social nuance. People with a disability that prevents them from picking up on social cues will, of course, struggle with this. The answer is not and will not be to enforce rigid structures on women’s attraction to make it more “logical” for people with autism. This is infringing upon free will and it’s why the public views incels as deranged and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:32 PM
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Autistic men are more likely to fall down the incel rabbit hole, as evidenced by a study mentioned on here. Something like 40% of self identified incels are autistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:29 PM
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What about today is specifically preventing autistic people from forming relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 04:27 PM
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So you admit it takes more than just “marrying a man you respect”? Maybe it’s not all the women’s fault as you keep implying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:14 PM
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Are you 100 years old? Women be working. Have been for decades. Not everyone can start their own business so they work for others. It’s really naive to think that your very specific life situation is applicable to society at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 03:10 PM
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Do you honestly believe everyone can start their own business and be successful with it? That’s naive. If not, then what are those other women supposed to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:51 PM
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Why is it stupid? It lets you identify the relationship in a generic way. It’s useful. Should we just say girlfriend/boyfriend/husband/wife all the time instead of just saying “partner”? We live in a world with all types and kinds of relationships. Wether or not you agree with that “lifestyle”, they objectively exist. It’s useful to have a catch all term.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:50 PM
2

Right, so the scientific studies on this take priority.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:17 PM
2

Lots of women aren’t on TikTok, you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:12 PM
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Just like with jobs there are none. You need to apply to jobs/relationships that ask for more experience and hope you get lucky
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:11 PM
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The wording is important, especially if you want sympathy from “the other side”. Because this thread comes off as men complaining about women’s free will. That’s not a winning argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:03 PM
1

Nobody likes sushi until they try it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:01 PM
2

Uh huh. All woman have the same programming?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:00 PM
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“A woman on TikTok” is not a good source of information
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 02:00 PM
1

The same way you get your first job with out experience
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:59 PM
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Men are more likely to leave for this than women. Men leave women with cancer at staggering rates. Look it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:49 PM
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To a point yes. If the person is stuck in this depression and is refusing to seek help, eventually the only choice is to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:47 PM
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Find someone you find unattractive then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:45 PM
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I’m in my 30s. It’s changed completely in the past 10 years. I don’t know how else to tell you this. Yeah you had dating apps back then that nobody used, now we’ve had dating apps for over ten years and it’s the number one way that people meet according to surveys of marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:44 PM
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Oh yeah, I forgot all women are liars and they have secret meetings to plan their messaging so it stays consistent while still being all lies. I’m always forgetting about that!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:43 PM
3

What does this even mean? You forgot you were a nerd?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:41 PM
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Don’t bring up past relationships unless it comes up in conversation. You aren’t being honest, you’re being weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:40 PM
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20 is fine, but like, get on that soon
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:39 PM
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Not experience in sex, experienced in relationships. You learn a shit load about yourself while in a relationship. What you like, what you don’t like. What things about yourself you are willing to change, what things you are not. What kind or personalities of people you like and what you don’t. Somebody with no experience with relationships is going to have to learn all of these things. But many of these things are deal breakers in a relationship. An experienced person knows what to look for bef…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:38 PM
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When I was in university, they had a special lecture just for the boys to tell us NOT to do this and to leave women alone. Also said that every man has the capability of rape and therefore we need to give women ample space.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:24 PM
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With all due respect, the landscape today is completely different than it was when you were in the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:23 PM
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Why should women do it themselves? Women seem to be doing fine right now
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:22 PM
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Rules for thee but not for me
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:19 PM
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Divorce rates are at all time lows. People are waiting longer to get married, less people are getting married, and those that do are less likely to divorce than before.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:15 PM
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Please don’t have children because you’re bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:14 PM
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Americans like to pretend the middle of the country doesn’t exist. It’s very weird to an outsider.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:13 PM
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Tech is considered one of the most unattractive careers for a man to have. Doesn’t matter the money they make. You’re still considered a nerd. I say this as a software developer myself, I can’t talk to normal people anymore. The shit I deal with everyday I can only talk about to other programmers. Compare that to a cop or firefighter. Not being able to share your day with your partner is tough.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:08 PM
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How many women, fuck it how many people in general, are at that income level?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:06 PM
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Partner is more accurate and implies an equal relationship. It’s the better and more accurate term. Also, since you know gay people do exist and everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:05 PM
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Yeah just start your own business for passive income. Something everyone can do! You solved the gender pay gap!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 01:03 PM
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Yes. Or lazy. Note I don’t mean stay at home mom. I mean housewife.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:43 AM
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What? Short of making it illegal for women to work…women be working.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 12:19 AM
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Hell no. I want an equal partner. A relationship should be a 1 + 1 = 3 situation. Some guys would be attracted to this because they have low self esteem and want to feel that they have you locked in. You are dependent on them so you can’t leave them. My mother was a nurse. Worked her butt off. That’s what I respect. I don’t respect lazy bums, and I certainly don’t want one leeching off of my success.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:43 PM
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Comes from his MONEY
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:39 PM
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Yeah he used to be just a millionaire like us
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:27 PM
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They used ChatGPT
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:27 PM
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Completely agree. My grandmother told me as a child to work hard in school so I would have a good career and then get a good wife. This is literally generations old knowledge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:56 PM
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No these are statements that are common sense. Men like decent looking women. Men like mature women. Is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:55 PM
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Self report. You need higher standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:52 PM
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One time a random girl bought me a pitcher of beer as I was getting off work (I worked in the kitchen). Well not random, a regular customer who I chatted with occasionally. It was completely out of the blue though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:50 PM
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Get off this subreddit for your own good. Don’t get relationship advice from people who’ve never had one. You are doing it correctly. Just be yourself, be helpful. If it works out then it works out, if it doesn’t then it doesn’t. There isn’t a secret code for men, nor for women for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:49 PM
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I wouldn’t want someone else doing my laundry, to be honest. Been doing that shit myself since I was like 8, it’s part of being a human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:47 PM
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That men are dangerous and sad?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 12:46 PM
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I’m sorry but giving women medication to make them so horny they sleep with guys they aren’t attracted to…you know that’s crazy town, right? Trying to manipulate woman’s behaviour is not an option on the table. Giving men more chances to be successful and therefore more attractive…that I can get behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 12:44 AM
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I agree that’s the end of the rabbit hole. But I do think a lot of the guys who talk about this stuff aren’t “there” yet. Government money to go on dates isn’t a bad idea, Japan is already doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:43 PM
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I do appreciate that you are proposing a concrete idea. People have a negative reaction because this is often brought up in the context of “lonely men are dangerous to society”. It comes off like a threat. If I had a suggestion for an idea to implement, it would be some incentive for boys/men to pursue a hobby. This will get downvoted but video gaming, especially the amount some guys do, is a waste of time. Save it for when you’re old. Live your life now. Get good at something. Learn an instrume…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 11:05 PM
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It would have to be only at certain places, otherwise dudes will just buy video games with this cash. Honestly I’ve been on this sub for a while and lack of cash doesn’t seem to be the road block for guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:18 PM
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Is it the lack of money that’s holding men back from dating? You are probably the first person to give an actual suggestion though. The problem with this line of rhetoric is that it’s always about “the government should do something” but never any actual ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:40 PM
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How is that better? Men are most concerned with looks, but women are concerned with achievement. Who is the shallow one here? It’s men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:49 PM
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Please take that logic to its next step to see why people react like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:45 PM
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Where do you live? It’s usually pretty clear what the majority culture or a place is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:04 PM
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The culture of the land should take precedence. Immigrants need to adapt and integrate to the culture when they move to a new country.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:51 PM
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Seven is the starting point, then you add some style and a little rizz and now you’re in the magical top 20% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:50 PM
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There is no judge and jury for this. It depends on the individuals and the situation. Use your judgment to infer the social standards of your area.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:21 PM
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Stop looking at people’s butts
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:15 PM
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1 in 5 men commit rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:12 PM
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Why does it bring cultural negate it? Social norms are cultural, doesn’t make them less real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:11 PM
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$80k in the Midwest is a fuckton of money. That’s like double the average salary for an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:07 PM
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Yeah I can get behind that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:06 PM
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1 in 5 men commit rape. That’s the statistic. That’s way way way too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:04 PM
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Men are struggling because they have historically relied on a women (their wife or their mother) to manage the home and themselves. Men are struggling to manage themselves independently now that the average age of marriage has shot up. This is why older men do well, they have have their shit together finally. Most guys I know live in absolute filth, never clean, eat like garbage, and play video games all day. I’m sorry but I don’t blame women for not being attracted to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:02 PM
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Feminine has nothing to do with trad. This sub has selection bias. It attracts men who are unsuccessful. You think married men with children waste their time on this sub? Don’t make population level assumptions based off posts from here. Education has a liberal bias because reality has a liberal bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:57 PM
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You are projecting so much onto this woman, you’re basically astral projecting at this point. Keep your horny fan fiction to yourself. Most women don’t make $170k and live in one of the most expensive cities on the continent in a shoebox…you know that right? This woman is representative of nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:49 AM
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Regardless of what a person is wearing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:01 AM
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Right so that means nothing about how adult women behave
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:56 AM
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I had a roommate in university who would have weekly Game of Thrones watch parties with a bunch of other girls. They all read the books too. They weren’t talking about how hot Jon Snow was, they were talking about nerd shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:55 AM
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Were y’all 16?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:51 AM
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No I think it’s the complete opposite. The grandmasters, the fountains of knowledge within incel communities, are divorced dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:48 AM
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Woman’s right to choose is kinda a binary option…either they have the right to or they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:42 AM
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Not true. In my province there’s a lot of discussion about trans stuff. It’s come up in my friend group (more women than men) and everyone has nuanced opinions on it. Maybe it’s an education thing. My friends are from university. We are adults now but met there.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:41 AM
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It’s like a vaccine, men need to be inoculated with this information before catching the illness. Once they get sick, it’s too late. This is why I hate seeing guys promote “passport bros” on here. Selling poison to thirsty men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:30 AM
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A healthy relationship is one where 1 + 1 = 3. Total is greater than the sum of its parts. Forcing someone to love you is an oxymoron. It couldn’t be done even if we went insane enough to try it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:27 AM
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Jesus Christ this went straight off the cliff
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:22 AM
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When a man can acknowledge another man as attractive, it’s really him saying, “I recognize the competition”. It’s absolutely all about “I want to be him” and never about “I want to fuck him”. As a straight guy anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:19 AM
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The statistical difference between men and women, as an average, is less than the statistical difference between any two randomly selected people. Athletics being the obvious exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:16 AM
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God that’s depressing. There should be public messaging about these scams. Our loneliness shouldn’t be an exportable commodity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 04:14 AM
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Jesus that’s horrible. There are whole websites that scam men with women claiming to be from impoverished or war torn countries looking to marry a western man. Right now I think the big scam is Ukrainian women. They ask for gifts or rent payments and are often stringing along multiple guys. The women are often real and will go on webcam, they are the ones doing the scam. The ultra fucked up part is that some of these sites ARE real and people do get married from them, and those stories fuel the …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:50 AM
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To play off of this, I think people that grow up around or have a lot of exposure to the opposite sex, are inoculated against this kind of rhetoric as well. For example, growing up with siblings of the opposite sex versus a single child. Having a diverse friend group versus a heavily gendered friend group. I’ve met enough women to know they are as diverse as men. Not even “being feminine” is an attribute to can attribute to all women, and I don’t mean trans. I know women that can crush beers and…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:43 AM
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We’ll that’s a new theory! What I know is true is that women don’t have secret meetings to come to consensus on this stuff. But I will say, as a former bartender, women are capable of having all the same hang ups and self-esteem issues and trauma that guys can have. Even the really pretty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:34 AM
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Would you say it’s women who have experience cheating that have this notion? I can understand that. But I worry it’s more than that. I had an ex girlfriend who got in a big fight with me because I started going to the gym. She said women would be all over me and they would seduce me into leaving. What was most infuriating about this was the notion that, as a man, I am a slave to my sex drive. If a women turned her gaze upon me, I would be powerless to resist. She would also very blatantly use se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:09 AM
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Funny, as a guy I feel the same way if someone too attractive is into me. Even in real life but especially online. Like what is the scam here? On Tinder it’s often prostitutes, they chat real flirty then ask for 250 “roses”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:02 AM
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Ugly? No. Out of shape, needs new clothes and a haircut? Yes. I’m a huge proponent of the “every man is a 7” theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:59 AM
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It’s a bit of selection bias here though. Your friend isn’t being approached by the women who are intimidated by him. I had a friend in university. Used to be overweight so he developed rizz, then got fit one year. Crushed it with the ladies, a new one every night. Except for this one girl. The girl he liked. As he said, “someone you want to go to bed with AND wake up to”. She flat out told him no way, you’re too much of a player and I don’t want to be a notch in your headboard. It fucking crush…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:54 AM
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When common advice to young men pursuing women is still “keep persisting until she changes her mind,” there is a lot more education to be done. I’m sorry that these messages affect you so much. Truly. But the authors of these messages don’t know you personally, they are looking at statistics. So chill out. A lot of behaviour that was common 20 years ago (like catcalling) is now rightfully considered harassment. This is progress. Let’s keep going.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 01:58 AM
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Take a look at the statistics before writing off their fears as unfounded. There are enough bad apples out there to make women suspicious of the whole bunch. That’s just…what it is. For every guy like you that thinks about being respectful, there are plenty that don’t. I remember in university they took the boys to have this special lecture about sexual assault. Said that one in five guys commits rape. I was sitting with four other guys and made a joke that that means one of us a rapist. Two wee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:10 PM
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What is modest to you might be revealing to others. Should we just put all our women in garbage bags like in the Middle East? It’s my understanding there is still plenty of sexual assaults and harassment in those countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:06 PM
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Gazes don’t hurt people. You aren’t protecting your women, your protecting your fragile ego.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:47 PM
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I work in office on a VPN because our resources are distributed. You’re really uninformed about this. There is a reason no other country can crack down on these. It’s part of having a secure network in 2023. We aren’t going back to silos of information and switchboards.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:36 PM
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Every company with remote workers has a VPN. If you think companies will support completely rearranging their entire company structure just to ban porn, you’re out of your mind. It seems almost like you want this to happen. For the government to act as morality police and filter your internet. Fuck off with that shit back to China.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 10:14 PM
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Do you know how many legitimate businesses use VPNs? They won’t be banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 09:12 PM
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China and Russia can’t stop VPNs, but Virginia will. Right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 08:59 PM
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Or they just use a VPN. Like how everyone in China or Russia uses a VPN. You don’t have to be tech savvy to use it. Using a VPN is much much easier than getting on the dark web.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:36 PM
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I blame gaming more than porn for lack of male engagement. No reason to go out on Friday night when the boys are playing LoL
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 07:34 PM
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The majority of marriages are people that met online. You think only attractive people are getting married?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 03:12 PM
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I’m a man. I have friends I talk to everyday. Men and women. It doesn’t take energy, it gives energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/23 12:03 PM
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Are they local to your area or long distance?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:11 AM
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Why wouldn’t it be a friends thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:02 AM
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Where do you live? You make it sound like you live in Afghanistan
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/23 12:00 AM
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You don’t meet people at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 11:57 PM
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Dating is to figure out if you click with people. I don’t know where this notion came from that if you start a relationship, and there’s no abuse or cheating and both people are decent people, you aren’t allowed to end it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 07:29 PM
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What about successful women? They don’t exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 03:17 PM
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Some successful men yeah. Not all. The world is too diverse for your child-like simplistic thinking. People take celibacy vows all the time and can still be successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:52 PM
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Be open be friendly to women the same way you would with men. It’s kinda that simple. Treating women as objects or prizes to win, that’s where the trouble starts. You seem to understand that these posters aren’t targeted at you. Why do they bother you so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:48 PM
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Develop respect for yourself, then do it for yourself. Plenty of people are motivated without the carrot of sex. To suggest otherwise is really foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:36 PM
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I’ve known guys like this. Not every guy is like this but these guys do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:35 PM
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Seems like useful advice to guys who can’t take a hint
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:29 PM
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You become an incel if you wonder too much about things that don’t necessarily have an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:18 PM
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Do you have a link? I’m sure I could find plenty of men saying shit back in those days, doesn’t mean it represents the cultural consciousness of men at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 02:14 PM
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The fact that we could be motivated to “impress our parents” as children is evidence enough that we don’t need the sexual drive to be motivated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:51 PM
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A lot of incels have mental illness and trauma, yes. Thought this was obvious by the way they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:47 PM
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Or they’re just not interested. Not every guy who turns you down needs an explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:44 PM
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Can you give an example of this rhetoric? Like an example with a source? While there might be the odd one post from some femcel on TikTok, all I see are 100 posts by dudes complaining about this “narrative”. You described a ton of stuff I have never felt in my over 30 years of existence as a dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:40 PM
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Same problem with people that equate their happiness to their career. Yet society tells us to avoid becoming such a sad tale, it’s a part of our culture. We need to same for marriage and relationships. It’s great yeah but you can be fulfilled without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 01:12 PM
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The majority of people are overweight or obese. This is going by BMI. Again, I get it. You have hot friends. That’s not the majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/23 12:23 AM
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The average person is overweight to obese. This is an objective fact. Maybe you have fit friends but that’s not the norm, scientifically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 04:53 PM
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Women aren’t as visual as men. Character traits make them more attractive. You know how many women are honestly attracted to guys like Seth Rogen? Smart funny guys having a good time? A lot of women are attracted to that…but they probably wouldn’t say Seth Rogen is physically attractive. Trying to understand female sexuality through the lense of male sexuality will forever be confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:14 AM
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Message them for dates, reply to them if the guys message first. Maybe read the Tinder study if you’re going to cite it as gospel.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 09:11 AM
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The same study also showed that women would message guys they didn’t rate as physically attractive, whereas men do not do this. Also, this was one study on an online dating site (so not the best sample of men or woman) from years and years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 07:59 AM
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No I know what this is. In Canada it’s called a rub-n-tug.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:00 PM
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Q-Anon stormed the Capitol. Never say never
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:48 PM
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You don’t want to control women, you just want to social condition them. Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:46 PM
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Wait, your friends are having sex with their therapists? Wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:16 PM
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Approach on the library the week before finals? Not the best idea. Approach at a college party? Absolutely. And by approach I mean, “hey did you take bio 101 with Professor Jones?”. Not weird pick up lines.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:58 PM
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Bars and clubs aren’t my scene either but I go because that’s where people meet people. I don’t drink either. Just have a Coke or Sprite in a glass and nobody will know.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:55 PM
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That’s different because men are disposable, it’s OK to offend them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:37 PM
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Being underweight as a guy is attractive to women. Not a bad thing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:37 PM
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Because OP is trying to make a sideways argument that people are happier in traditional gender roles in a traditional family. OP can’t include data that goes against the narrative they are spinning. Point blank, posts like this are disinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 12:08 PM
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You will end up on Tik Tok as one of those creepy ass guys. For fucks sake don’t do this or encourage people to do this!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:03 PM
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The problem is you can’t tell which women is which from outside, so you just don’t do it. Ultimately, it’s this. Treat women as you would men. You don’t hit on men in public, so don’t hit on women in public. The goal is to treat men and women the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:54 PM
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My last job had a whole thing about office relationships, and they were supposed to be reported to HR. It’s not considered appropriate anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:03 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:48 AM
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Jesus Christ that’s a scary attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:41 AM
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People don’t meet in these places anymore. It’s a bad call to do this at work for example. Women often complain about being hit on at work, don’t be a statistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:37 AM
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If hygiene makes women tingle, then men should all focus on their hygiene.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:36 AM
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Absolutely do not do this. Leave women in general public alone, they aren’t target practice for you to increase your skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:35 AM
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Career woman wanting men who earn as much as themselves? They get mocked on here. Women also generally have hygiene on point everyday.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:37 PM
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I don’t know how to tell you that you are living a life that guys on here would kill for.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:32 PM
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Sure, they got in a relationship and then the guy was laid off. That’s not what I mean. I mean if you meet someone new, and you’re unemployed, they won’t be interested. Instant turn off. A guy has to be competent and being unemployed is a sign of incompetence.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:31 PM
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If that’s a value of yours then sure
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:30 PM
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You have multiple partners and get new ones on the regular. I’m sorry, but no you don’t get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:29 PM
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For a lot of men, being themselves means never leaving the house and playing video games all day. Just work and chill at home. The obvious problem is that these guys won’t meet anyone at home. They want to meet a partner who also wants to chill at home, so they won’t be lonely. That’s why they need all these strategies and tips and theories, because being social isn’t being themselves. There are a lot of guys who, 50 years ago, would meet someone young at church then live a quiet life to themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:27 PM
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There are no places to meet people anymore, except online dating. Online dating is poison for men, it crushes your self esteem. People don’t believe in true love because Tinder is biased towards looks and lifestyle, and that’s the only way to meet people anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:22 PM
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Men are looking at themselves in the mirror and saying this
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:20 PM
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Maybe in Ireland, not in North America. We have record numbers of single men in their 20s and 30s. This is because they are failing these basic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:18 PM
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Video games are kryptonite for men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:17 PM
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Don’t we mock women for complaining about being lonely despite having plenty of options, just because they don’t meet some standards? Same rules apply here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:16 PM
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You can’t get relationship experience if you can’t get a relationship. It’s an oxymoron. As a man you have to work on what you can, and that’s yourself. If there were women willing to date me as I am now, I wouldn’t be on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:14 PM
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For most guys, it’s not an option to switch dating on and off. They need to work on these things to have a chance at dating, to have any confidence in themselves. If you’re unemployed and overweight living at your moms, you’re not in a state to be dating. Fix your life a bit first. Life isn’t a romantic sitcom from the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:12 PM
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You can be social and develop those skills without intention of dating anyone. Join a charity do some volunteering take a class. Don’t go out cold approaching women minding their own business in a grocery store just to grind experience points.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:09 PM
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A “work in progress” won’t attract anyone. You need to be in decent shape, not expensive but nice appropriately sized clothes, have a steady career, nice hair cut and clean facial hair. These standards are bare minimum, far from perfection. Guys need to be taught to care for themselves a bit more. You can’t get away being a slob like your dad was.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:06 PM
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Expressing vulnerability is expressing weakness. Weakness is unattractive. You need some dude friends to vent to. Have a beer, let it out, they tell you to suck it up and move forward. Ultimately dealing with your problems is on you, nobody can help you. You are the male, the provider. You are supposed to be the calm collected one. If you break that frame you break the image. Maintain frame at all times.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:03 PM
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Where are these men who are being constantly shit on? Women’s standards are fairly straight forward. Be in shape, dress in fitting clothes, basic hygiene, have a job with career growth. These are like life basics for everyone but it applies to men. You used to have to get the father of a woman’s permission, and they would check you on these things. This is nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:57 PM
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Therapy is to get you to work on yourself, not a paid buddy who tells you that you are great.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 03:04 PM
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Prostitution won’t fix the problem. The problem is men need to feel accepted. Paying for someone to have sex with you reinforces that nobody will accept you. The solution isn’t for women to lower their standards though. Men need to use this to motivate themselves to be better men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:47 PM
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It’s always said as a threat. Yet when you push these guys for what they actually want - government assigned concubines? Sexual communism? - they get silent.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:45 PM
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