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| 2 | What's a life lesson you've acquired from reading this sub?Absolutely! All very true and sums up what I have learned here too 👍 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/18 06:59 PM |
| 5 | Q4m/w Fantasy vs realitySounds like a plan! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/18 05:05 AM |
| 4 | Q4m/w Fantasy vs realityCo-signed - I love this fantasy so much! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/18 03:22 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All] how often do you think about sexWonderful comment! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/18 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Reverse-shit testHaha! Perfect :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 01:23 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?You too :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?My mum had me at 31 too (on her birthday!) She married at 21, but had a strong desire for a career and didn’t try for children until she was 29, she miscarried the first time. But thankfully I came along - cesarean and premature, but mostly ok :p My Dad is an artist and was hardly ever employed so he stayed at home with me and my mum kept working full time. Gosh, your mum and aunt had it hard - my mum was lucky not to have siblings to care for (she had 3 siblings, but they didn’t need babysittin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/18 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?Family history is fascinating, isn’t it? How annoying that you don’t know their country of origin! Funny what people leave out thinking it will always be common knowledge...Yeah, the one boy remaining in the rectory is a bit, ahem, suspicious! I’ve traced English, Scottish, Welsh, Italian and Austrian ancestors which is interesting. And then some of the Irish ones are Norse descendants...The Irish ones are Protestants, and the English and Scots, Catholics, which is atypical...big families on bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/18 01:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?I was just looking at some family genealogy and my great great great grandfather had 9 by his first wife, then she died at 40 (half born in Ireland, one on the ship, then the rest in NZ) then he remarried less than a year later and had 3 more kids and that wife died before him too. Life was extremely hard for those women for sure! Not that it was easy for the men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/18 06:15 AM |
| 2 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?Yeah, that’s true, I was a bit unfair. Some men just take even being asked once to do something as nagging - that pisses me off. If they’re happy to help out and genuinely don’t notice things, that’s fine - and you’re right, maybe their standards being low isn’t such a bad thing. I find living with other women harder than living with men in terms of tension about things being just so - men don’t care much at all, but sometimes they just respond to every request to help out like it’s nagging or s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?Yeah, you’re right. But surely lifting a hand to help someone who’s exhausted seems pretty intuitive? Idk, sometimes men just seem wilfully blind and deaf because they don’t want the bother.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?They were often working full time jobs - my mum certainly was (accounting lecturer), and my aunts were working part or full time (one was a nurse, one an executive assistant). I don’t recall many mothers I knew growing up who were full time stay at home. It was unusual even in the 80s and 90s - especially once the kids went to school. Those women worked very hard both in and out of the home and the men did much less overall. Maybe it’s different countries also - this was New Zealand, not the US.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 01:19 PM |
| 4 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?Ugh, how frustrating - from what I see, nothing has changed for most women in marriages with kids in the past 30 years. Maybe the latest generation is better, but most Millennial men still seem to expect a wife to be quite traditional but also bring in an income. Many of the guys here complain that women expect a man to be the financial provider and go 50/50 with everything - so they’re getting screwed. From what i see, the women also financially provide and also do most of the housework and chi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 05:48 AM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?Yeah, I’m not sure if it’s changed with the next generation - but it still seems common in Millennial men to expect more from a wife than they expect from themselves as a husband. A lot of men here seem to believe women expect a financial provider and a man who shares 50/50 in the housework and child rearing - but most women today also bring in an income and still do most of the housework and child rearing...Maybe in coming generations this will change as we get further from the traditional imag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/18 05:16 AM |
| 7 | Why most very-high-value men get married instead of following their supposed "sexual imperative"?This is perfect!! lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?Poor guy. Still, he’s an asshole for his part in what your ex did to you - can’t feel too sorry for him... Is this recent? Hope you’re doing ok now. Some people just make you lose faith in goodness... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 07:10 PM |
| 7 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?I grew up observing marriages that seemed quite heavily in the man’s favour - hence I’ve never really understood men complaining about marriage as if it’s some institution that only benefits ‘the old ball and chain’! Growing up, the wives I observed all worked outside the home - some part time, others full time, but they all brought in some income and some brought in as much as their husbands (or considerably more in my mother’s case). These women also did the vast majority of the housework, lau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 07:07 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think women are less likely to get re-married?I’m truly sorry about this - what a POS, that’s really rough. My aunt (by marriage) remarried a much richer man - but that was more than 10 years after the divorce after she’d raised the kids - and the divorce was because she gave my uncle 2 chances after he cheated, and he did it again...So, I say good for her, she deserved a better man and my uncle was the POS. Hopefully your ex gets her comeuppance - she deserves some pain after doing that to you - and the new guy should be wary... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/18 04:55 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: In your opinion, who has it worse in western society, men or women?Overall, I think society is better for women than men these days - but not significantly. We have different challenges and advantages and I wouldn't easily pick being one over the other if you gave me the choice. It's not an equal choice anyway - there's too many differences to exactly imagine the life of the opposite gender. I'm really only going to contend with you on health. Although men die earlier and have more health problems earlier in life, this isn't due to healthcare for women being be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/18 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Basically I’m just against shaming people. I don’t think it works. Doesn’t mean unhealthy should be celebrated. But the celebratory nature of size acceptance, etc, pales in comparison to the celebration of ‘fuck authority’ type mentality of rejecting new movements and science around eating and exercise. And also the refusal to support things like legislation to put caps on the amount of sugar, salt and bad fats in foods. Or the advertising of said foods to children. It is particularly bad in Ame… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/18 09:10 AM |
| 1 | All pills: What are your thoughts on the fact that there are way more stepfathers than stepmothers?This is how I understand it works in my country (New Zealand) also - why oh why to do many men here think women ‘get everything’ and ‘get the kids’ by default and there’s nothing fair about it? How do they imagine laws are that biased?! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/18 04:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Face VS Height - When it comes to physical attractiveness, is facial beauty or height more important in a man?Very interesting! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 06:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4Women: Face VS Height - When it comes to physical attractiveness, is facial beauty or height more important in a man?The problem for me with this is that I know of these guys and Adam Driver is a much more attractive man overall than James Deen. It’s hard to discount what I know about them and just judge their appearance... But generally speaking facial attractiveness trumps height to me. I mean, I look at someone’s face all the time, their height is less present in that sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 06:07 PM |
| 7 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?Many men seem to marry and have LTRs with crazy bitches if all their stories of divorce rape and all around vindictive, unstable behavior are to be believed. Not blaming them for it - just observing that men have an equivalent to the ‘bad boy’ female motif. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?I don’t know who Dorothy Bradford is...but certainly know of Zelda Fitzgerald. Wanting both a Puritan and a good time girl is a tall order... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 12:45 PM |
| 4 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?I’m not a crazy girl, but I think you’re right - but many men seem to marry crazy girls too. Just like many women marry ‘bad boys’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 12:42 PM |
| 7 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?Awesome post!!! You summed it up perfectly a year ago - I wonder if any of them really listened? By the posts and responses around here, I’d say unfortunately not. They still see men as superior in every way really but don’t want to put that out there - so they hamster around it. Basically, many of these men are sexists who believe women are inferior and that’s that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 06:13 AM |
| 14 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?Haha! This is the perfect response! Many men love crazy bitches and women who are blatant bullshitters. I don’t understand where they get this idea that only women want excitement and ‘bad’ boys - men want exciting ‘mean girls’ just as much. They’d be so bored with the docile, sweet, chaste women they seem to talk about wanting so badly on here... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 06:09 AM |
| 5 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?I think women do learn to manipulate in certain ways from childhood - almost innately. But so do boys. Boys seems to do so more consciously, ime. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 05:06 AM |
| 13 | Why is there no real red pill alternative for women?Yeah, what is this repeating motif that we can all somehow predict the behavior of others and if they treat us badly then it’s all our fault? I get it if you never learn and keep picking the same bad people - but people can certainly ‘turn’ on you and be nothing like you originally experienced... There are men all over the manosphere complaining about women screwing them over, ‘divorce raping’ them, having babies they should be able to financially abort, cheating with Chad...and yet they blame w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/18 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?I don’t know what a whale is actually - I mean, to me it conjures up an image of morbid obesity. To others it might mean some who is visibly fat, but still able to do things for themselves and isn’t waddling around or needing two seats in an airplane.... I’m not arguing with you that fat acceptance is wrong - I think it’s silly to truly believe you’re your best self at size 18 or whatever. I’m saying that for a lot of people depression is at the heart of weight gain (certainly has been for me) a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Highly sensitive topic, arousal during rape and the occurance of an orgasm during an assault: , please avoid if you dislike reading disturbing contentThat’s a very good response and much more succinct than mine!! :) I don’t get why this is hard to understand for some people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/18 06:07 AM |
| 2 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?Of course you can hit a woman who is attacking you - just as you can hit an animal abuser to stop them from abusing an animal. I don’t know if you’re baiting me or being obtuse. It’s not this complicated. There are reasons underlying most everything - but acting on those reasons is another matter. Hating all women because of some women’s behavior or generalizations about women, has reasons but is not reasonable because it’s not that black and white. It’s not sensible or good judgement to hate a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 05:53 PM |
| 1 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?No?! Ever listen to Bill Burr? He says the same thing. There are reasons to hit women, but you don’t do it because it’s a bad thing to do - for her and for you. Reasons don’t always lead to a reasonable action (or viewpoint). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 04:47 PM |
| 2 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?There are reasons to hit children and women, to execute people, to tell lies, to start wars...it doesn’t mean those reasons are valid to act upon. There are reasons not to overeat or drink too much - reasons people ignore because it’s convenient to. We can choose to rise above the reasons and see a better way forward. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 04:28 PM |
| 1 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?Nope. I truly don’t hate anyone. I guess I believe everyone has some good in them and everyone is struggling in some way - life is hard. That makes it very difficult for me to truly hate anyone. I guess I’m closest to hating pedophiles, sadistic murderers, animal abusers... There are reasons to dislike whole groups of people based on stereotypes - doesn’t mean it actually makes sense to do so. I just think it’s sad to feel such contempt for people - especially half the population and those you a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 12:35 PM |
| 2 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?No, that’s what I said next. I have reasons to dislike men (in general) based on personal experiences, anecdotes and what I see in the news and media. But I don’t dislike all men because that doesn’t make sense. And I certainly don’t hate anyone...There are reasons to dislike women based on experience, anecdotes and the media - but that doesn’t mean it’s actually logical to hate women in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 11:33 AM |
| 3 | Highly sensitive topic, arousal during rape and the occurance of an orgasm during an assault: , please avoid if you dislike reading disturbing contentThere’s a good ted talk about this Having an orgasm does not equal enjoyment. It equals a physiological response to stimuli. Your clitoris and vagina (and penis) can become aroused and orgasm from something that your brain may not find arousing or enjoyable - it’s adjacent to what is normally arousing and enjoyable and your body just reacts. Men can get boners in inappropriate contexts, just as women can get aroused in inappropriate contexts. What matters is the consent and desire. You can also … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 08:01 AM |
| 1 | Q2W: Which one of these three things is to you the biggest turn off in a man?As I’m not a fan of city driving myself, it’s good to have a man who drives. But I could work around it. Income...again, could work around it but this is the biggest turnoff of the three. I’m not a high earner myself and would like to play more of a support role in an LTR/marriage if kids come into it, so I’d prefer a man earn the same but preferably more. Height would mean he’d be 5’2”, which is very uncommon in men. Still, I wouldn’t absolutely dismiss him. I’ve never been approached by a guy … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 07:45 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Haha! Yes, they are not the most nuanced questions and I often seem to have answers that contradict one type or another. I’ve ended up 5w4 just a point ahead of 9w1. And I’ve had INFJ, INFP and INTJ, INTP. INFJ certainly seems closest by description - for sure I know I’m an IN anyway! With enneagram it’s even more binary really. And some numbers sound a lot better than others - with 9s being particularly weak next to 5s. The ones I’d say I bear no resemblance to are 3, 6, 7 and 8. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/18 04:58 AM |
| 4 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?I find that hard to believe. But, whatever. It’s up to you. There is no way all women around you are bad people - and there certainly is not a chance that all women are worthy of your hate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 05:31 PM |
| 5 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?You sound depressed. Isolating yourself and losing interest are bad signs - I’ve been through it myself. I hope you can find a way to get a better perspective - or at least around better women, if they’re so awful. But if you’re having such a tough time liking any women, it’s likely you need to work on yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 04:48 PM |
| 8 | What opinions (if any) you had have changed due to this sub?You hate women? Really? All women? I don’t get this mindset - I get disliking feminists, women who act a certain way or talk a certain way or look a certain way - perfectly reasonable and valid. But to hate half the human race is extreme. I have plenty of reasons to dislike men - but to hate men in general for those reasons is nonsensical. Is there anything that would change this feeling for you? Are you MGTOW? It must be really hard to be sexually attracted to people you hate. I hope something … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Thanks! 9 sounds more like me than 5 in many ways. Although the description does make 5’s sound great and 9s sound wish washy, ineffectual and shallow...read it, it makes 9s sound pretty awful actually! I’m wondering if there isn’t a bit of gender difference here as I certainly think more like a 5, but communicate more like a 9 (which sounds more like a female type to me). It’s quite binary in its description and I don’t really like that...That comparison of 5s and 9s was certainly written with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 08:32 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Yes, the enneagram is great that way - I also find the best self and worst self descriptions helpful. Except I relate a lot to both 5 and 9, which is weird...Part of me thinks the problem lies in me not feeling like I’ve found my real path professionally or personally yet. I’ve sort of hidden away for a while now and that has suppressed my ‘true’ personality in some ways. But I’m working on that and getting more clarity - the personality typing does help with that for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/18 06:00 AM |
| 1 | When women settle the marriage failsYeah, I am a more red leaning purple in many respects, but all that looks-centric stuff just seems stupid to me. Most people are not incredibly handsome or beautiful and yet we manage to fall in lust, love and procreate all the time. Many a man has a woman in his fantasies that is the epitome of physical perfection to him -that doesn’t mean he can’t find other, less perfect, women attractive and fulfilling - same goes for women. Relationships and love are far more complicated than looks can cove… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 06:42 PM |
| 1 | When women settle the marriage failsThis would certainly make more sense in my uncle’s case. I personally can’t understand it - I don’t find just being a smooth talker attractive, without some other positive traits onboard. I mean, my uncle isn’t exactly the life of the party kind of bad boy - he’s just sort of arrogant, callous and decisive. Anyway, I was just curious of how he and ‘his women’ could be explained by TRP - many seem to make looks so paramount... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Yes! Thank you. INTP sounds wrong for me. I’m very feel-y - but also rational and I can be incredibly cutting in my insights (but I word it nicely - or don’t say it at all if it will really hurt someone). Yet another test gave me INFP but by reading more, INFJ sounds much more like me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 05:05 PM |
| 7 | When women settle the marriage failsBy your portrayal we women are pretty horrible people - why on earth would anyone choose to live with one? Some people are just cheaters it seems to me. They will cheat no matter what. They don’t appreciate what they’ve got until it’s gone - always looking for a new set of sexy bits to play with...a nagging, fat, sexually unavailable wife is not an excuse (and maybe you could say she’s nagging, fat and sexually unavailable because he has taken her for granted and stopped putting any effort in to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 04:53 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)This makes sense to me. It’s not a certain science (how could it possibly be?!) but it’s a useful heuristic about yourself and others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 03:23 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Interesting. I find people and relationships fascinating and like to hear people talk about it too - as long as it’s not too sickly sweet but is actually able to be analyzed! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 03:22 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)I did two - first this one which took 10 minutes and gave me INFJ. Then this one gave me INTJ but with a low certainty (and asked me 40 questions instead of the original 25!) The problem is they can change over time, but I think people do to some extent as well. I also think of you’re on the cusp with the functions, you can come out differently on different tests. So I read the descriptions and INFJ definitely fits me better than INTP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 03:21 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Yes I think so too...INFJ certainly feels more true than INTP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/18 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Ok, thank you. I’ll check out those ones. I think it could be helpful to understand the cognitive processes for sure. From the little I’ve read it’s very interesting - but I need to read a lot more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Can I ask your type? And what makes you really into it? I just did a different test and it gave me INTP... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 07:01 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)My friend has a masters in Psychology and when I asked her she agreed INFJ fits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 06:55 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)Well, yeah, sure it’s not as simple as 4 binary traits but there’s a bit more to it than that. I’m not going to live my life by it, it’s just curiosity really. And liking a little group to be in, no matter how ludicrous the premise...lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 06:53 PM |
| 3 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (17 June 2018)I’m kind of new to MBTI and other personality typing. What are people’s take on it here? I see it mentioned quite frequently...How about enneagram or Big Five? I’m not sure what the best MBTI test is, but the one I did said I was INFJ and the description mostly makes sense to me. Enneagram gave me 5w4 OR 9w1, which is confusing... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/18 06:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.Huh, fascinating!! I’m one of those genuine women with strong moral values and self control, I can’t imagine being any other way. Boy, do we need more men and women with those these days. How do you feel about your own high n count and ‘thugishness’? Fulfilled? Disillusioned? You wouldn’t have got it without more women than ever being promiscuous and disingenuous. Would you give it up to have more women (and therefore men) stay chaste before marriage? Or is sexual liberation (short term gratific… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 05:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.Can you link to a study about 2 partners drastically reducing the pair bonding ability of women? It’s possible, but I haven’t heard that before. I think many men are pressured by a macho culture to view sex as entirely separate from bonding, but I guess there’s no way to prove that without raising men outside of that macho influence entirely...Most men I’ve known have a ‘base’ desire to sleep around, but a ‘higher’ desire to bond and share intimacy and life with one woman. I think it’s a human d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 05:27 PM |
| 1 | Netflix film crews 'banned from looking at each other for longer than five seconds' in #metoo crackdownExactly! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 05:15 PM |
| 2 | Netflix film crews 'banned from looking at each other for longer than five seconds' in #metoo crackdownWith these rules at Netflix can you communicate on Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, etc?....There are so many ways to communicate (and harass I guess, if you want to be negative...) these days, I just don’t see how they’re going to cut off any personal contact between colleagues that want it... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Your flair says ‘proud fat/slut shamer’ that’s what I was referring to as mean spirited. I am completely anti-PC and have no problem with people telling the truth. I have a problem with people shaming others over the truth - it’s just cruel and unhelpful. It’s not motivational to be called a lazy, gluttonous, stupid ‘whale’ - terms many fat shamers use. I’m actually glad you didn’t attack me personally because I’ve already had that on here and it felt awful. The reason I brought up skinny but un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/18 04:44 AM |
| 5 | Girls, how do you feel when you catch a guy staring at you or your body?There’s a big difference between a predatory stare and an admiring glance. Staring at someone, unblinking, unmoving, hungrily is just creepy - idk care how good looking you are, makes my skin crawl. I’ve been followed and unwaveringly stared at - it’s frightening. I’ve been stared at by women who look like they’d be happy if a bus hit me. It’s malevolent - not the least bit flattering. Admiring glances make me feel great, of course. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Are attractive people better or worse in bed? What does logic suggest? What does your experience say?Sounds good! No one wants perfunctory, pusillanimous pussy eaters anyway! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Well, at least you’re upfront about being mean spirited... I said I’m fat (not proud of it), I have lost weight and am currently losing more. I’m not lazy, I resent that assumption of my character because of my dress size. I also resent that you wouldn’t know I’m actively losing weight unless you asked me, which you likely wouldn’t do - you’d assume I am ignorantly stuffing my face and sitting as much as possible. You also likely don’t appreciate the huge mental and physical effort it takes to c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Are attractive people better or worse in bed? What does logic suggest? What does your experience say?Ok, fair enough. Nothing wrong with that attitude at all. I just find it weird when men don’t do it because they think it’s subservient. Even if the thought makes them salivate and hard as a rock, they won’t because it’s sending a submissive signal or whatever...that’s actually submissive in my book. Your reason is 100% legitimate - not that you need approval from anyone for your choices, of course :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 04:30 PM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: Are attractive people better or worse in bed? What does logic suggest? What does your experience say?I don’t get what’s inherently submissive about going down on a woman anyway...You can be a complete dominant Chad alpha and still love eating pussy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 04:19 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Are attractive people better or worse in bed? What does logic suggest? What does your experience say?Just curious, do you have an aversion to the physical act of cunnilingus (bad experience, repulsed by smell/taste) or is it mostly an aversion to the seeming submissiveness of the act? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Netflix film crews 'banned from looking at each other for longer than five seconds' in #metoo crackdownAnd this is why I hate litigation culture - oh, and PC culture. All these adults needs to grow up and take responsibility for themselves rather than expecting legislation and corporate rules to protect them (and compensate them) from everything nefarious all the time. I can’t really blame Netflix for this - they’re covering their asses in a highly litigious, often degenerate and easily ‘triggered’ entertainment industry. I know sexual harassment is a genuine problem that needs addressing - but t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Female reactions to the inherent vulnerabilities of femininity and the predatory nature of male sexualityThis response fits my views perfectly. Very well put! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 02:52 PM |
| 1 | What is your love language?So I did the test because I wasn’t sure about the order - I’m a woman, purple pill. I got: 7 Acts of service, 7 time, 6 touch, 5 words and 5 gifts. Makes sense, I’m not too fussed about gifts or being told I’m loved or appreciated, etc - I like to feel supported and helped in my day to day life and appreciated for what I do in return. I prefer actions over words. I certainly show love with acts of service and giving my time. And I like a good cuddle! But I’m not very lovey dovey in my words - I’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 09:34 AM |
| 2 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?Yes, I think this is likely true for many. I think TRP is interesting and some of their advice is good - but it goes off the rails completely in it’s lack of personal responsibility in pursuit of hedonism (NSA sex, spinning plates, never marry or commit, don’t have kids) and the way it blames women’s ‘nature’ for every misery of men without turning the spotlight on themselves and whether their ‘nature’ also plays a part...There’s so much black and white thinking... It seems to be mostly about pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 09:23 AM |
| 3 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?This is very true - they have quite a few blind spots and inconsistencies in their advice. Seems to me they want to behave however they want with zero responsibility - all the responsibility is on women to behave like proper ladies (but have sex casually and be a plate), to stand alone if they get pregnant (financial abortions for men because they have no hand in creating or contributing to life...), to jump on men like horny pornstars to show consent (otherwise she might accuse me of rape later… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/18 05:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Thanks, yeah hopefully the Concerta will keep doing me more good than harm! Strange to troll below my comment...or did he make the same comment elsewhere? I’ll have a look. Certainly seems very insecure to make height such a huge deal - kind of pathetic if your sense of masculinity hinges entirely on height... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 01:35 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Glad you and your friend are ok - sucks about the Concerta being so unbearable, at least you had options and are doing well now. Yeah, I don’t feel more depressed really. There’s definitely a small crash, but it’s not unbearable. BUT I’m about to start doubling the dose because it’s not as effective as it was at first and I am on the ‘kid’s dose’ according to my psychiatrist. So, we’ll see if it gets more helpful or simply more intolerable... Valdoxan makes me feel more apathetic, so I’m off tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 12:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Thanks! I lost a lot on Cymbalta because it made me full after like two mouthfuls of food - 10kg in one month, which worried the doctors, tbh! It’s not as dramatic on Concerta, a more reasonable 500g per week. I also have more focus and energy to keep up with exercise, which is great. It’s like it’s helped my willpower. I just hate the sort of afternoon crash it gives me... Yeah, I mean, I know being fat makes me unattractive to some men - but not all men (as long as I don’t extrapolate from red… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 12:25 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?You don’t see short men as being men? Huh? I don’t believe many women see it that way. And how short are we talking? 5’8” or 5’2”? I’m an expat in a country with a lot of South Indian and South Asian men and many of them are not very manly to me - it’s not just that they are usually my height or less (5’4”), it’s often that they are also very petite in build and don’t have the shoulders and overall greater bulk I associate with men. But it suits women from the same region who are often more like… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosMakes sense. I’m not saying anyone is designed to be fat, more that there is such a thing as ‘bone build’ (structure and basic musculature) which partially determines the weight and size of people. A bit like the ectomorph, mesomorph, endomorph - while I disagree with the personality traits attached to the types, those body types seem to exist and can explain some relatively large differences in weight and muscle mass between people of similar height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/18 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Oh, so it’s a good thing? Sorry, so many here seem to hate equality or egalitarianism (of opportunity imo, not outcome). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosI wasn’t aware of a different BMI scale for different ethnicities - makes sense. But how about this common belief that there is no such thing as being ‘big boned’ or ‘small boned’? A lot of people deny that build really exists in any meaningful way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 08:28 PM |
| 7 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?Yeah, I know. It’s just the sense I get from some of the guys around here. But I also think some of them simply believe caring at all about a woman’s arousal or pleasure makes them less of a man. They also seem to believe that women don’t really want or like sex unless it’s with their dream Chad and therefore their only hope of getting sex is that she just gives in and lets him do it....she’ll only give enthusiastic consent to Chad, any other guy is basically raping her...It’s an incredibly nega… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 07:31 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?That’s a very depressing system - no wonder so many young people seem kind of dumb and narcissistic... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 07:14 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?Lol - this certainly sounds like it’s the case... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 07:10 PM |
| 3 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?Yes, it is for most us - it’s so simple to see when someone wants out but is too shy or scared of giving offense to actually take action to leave. But many of the men asking these questions here have difficulty reading others. They need clear cut consent or refusal and checklists of do’s and don’ts. Trouble is, if they listen to a lot of TRP and PUA guys about it, then they believe women don’t actually know what they want and don’t mean what they say and they need to push through last minute res… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 07:08 PM |
| 3 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?Bravo. Agree completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 06:59 PM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?I hope that ball gag was consented to enthusiastically! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 06:55 PM |
| 6 | [Q4RP] Enthusiastic consent: Do you always look for this when fucking?Yes! Why do so many men deny this aspect of female sexuality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 06:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Thanks for your thoughts... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?What kind of women do you hang with then? I guess I hang with the supposedly elusive ‘good’ women - I get the feeling this kind of talk happens largely amongst North American, college-age women - or women in cut-throat careers with low empathy. I have zero connection with these demographics. I also tend to hang out with artists and unconventional types....Trash talking is something most people (hopefully) grow out of - but it’s hugely overrepresented in social media, where many people behave lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 06:49 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?It’s not ok for women to say ‘no short men’ - and those twitter posters are vile human beings. I don’t believe that many people think it’s perfectly acceptable to height shame, fat shame or any other kind of shame...but that’s up to individuals to decide, there’s no law against it. I see a lot more fat shaming around than height shaming - and as being fat is mostly controllable, and height isn’t, I don’t think you can really conflate the two. Being small chested is more similar - boob size can f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 04:44 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Great to hear! :) I really don’t care too much about height myself. If you’re compatible and are attracted to each other, what does it matter? Seems to me it’s more about what other people might think than it is about a true personal limit on attraction. And if you’re that worried about what other people think about what you look like as a couple...well, you’re unlikely to be worth forming an opinion on really! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 04:15 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?When it’s worded that way, you’d have to be a hair-trigger sissy to truly be offended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 04:07 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Very good comment. I agree that it’s best to give such rude people a pass - they’re likely to be unpleasant people in others ways too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 04:05 PM |
| 7 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?This is completely right. Women can be absolute assholes and men will still want them because men are thirsty - that is never going to change. Doesn’t make the woman less of an asshole though... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 04:02 PM |
| 7 | Q4All: Why is it okay to say "no short men" in dating profiles but not "no fat women" or "no small chested women"?Great comment!! I completely agree. I have never heard women IRL mock men’s height or state it as some sort of deal breaker preference. It’s really rude to do so, in my circles. Outside of a few of those dating videos and Tinder profiles, I don’t even see women disparaging or even really discussing men’s height online. They might state a preference for taller men, but don’t say explicitly ‘no short guys’. But fat women are hauled over the coals by men online and often in real life too. I’m fat a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/18 03:53 PM |
| 2 | Q4all: what is your opinion of men who hire prostitutes?Female, purple I’ve never known anyone who paid for sex - no one who has talked about it openly, anyway! There’s a lot of stigma around it and I assume it is likely in more widespread use than it seems. I don’t look down on any man who has ever paid for sex. I don’t think highly of a man who only pays for sex or pays for it very regularly - that kind of seems sad and certainly out of whack with my values. The ones I look down on are men who mistreat sex workers and have no respect for them - and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosu/xiiteelee 50-60 is more reasonable for a petite, average height woman. 45kg is pretty tiny. I just think his weight preference was a bit unreasonably (and unintentionally by his demeanor) restrictive, not impossible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/18 04:59 AM |
| 10 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosIt’s kind of funny that the guy said ‘I’m not picky’ and then went on into quite a few detailed preferences, lol! I got the sense he wasn’t 100% sure on all of them. It hurt him with the very low weight preference - I’m sure he was underestimating his ideal woman’s weight quite a bit. 45kg is underweight even at 160cm - 45-55kg overall is going to put a woman in a very petite category - even in Asian countries I think that weight range is too low and restrictive. He had a lot of appearance prefe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 02:24 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: What's your opinion on these "Dating requirements" videosYeah, that’s very much a low end of the ideal BMI and even underweight. 45-55kg is very petite, certainly not the norm. 45kg is really quite underweight unless you have a very petite build or are more like 5’0” or less... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/18 01:05 PM |
| 3 | Is it wrong for a short guy to approach a tall woman?A 6’3” woman likely has a hard time dating herself - she’s very, very unusual and a lot of men would be put off by her stature. I think she’d be flattered. If she shoots you down in a rude manner, thank your lucky stars - you don’t want a woman like that anyway. It’s easy to go around in circles rationalizing your insecurity by pinning it on others - but the fact is it’s your insecurity. Confidence is key - trying is key - don’t give up before you’ve even tried based on a hypothetical rejection … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 03:31 PM |
| 12 | Is it wrong for a short guy to approach a tall woman?That doesn’t make sense. A) since when does feminism have anything to say about the morality of shorter men approaching tall women? B) why do you care about what feminists morally think about your choices anyway? Sounds to me like you chickened out of approaching a woman you found attractive. Don’t blame feminism or whatever - blame your own indecision and lack of courage. No one is going to judge you for approaching a tall woman. Go for it!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 02:44 PM |
| 5 | June 2018: PurplePillDebate surveyYeah - I noticed this too! I love them both, I really do! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/18 06:13 AM |
| 2 | How can I live at home with my parents (I'm 32) and still have a decent dating life?Yeah, it’s cynical and shallow to tell OP he has no hope with women if he does the right thing by his parents and for his financial plans. No one is advocating living in a fantasy world, there’s a middle ground where men and women meet and fall in love outside the rules of TRP...the RP worldview is not 100% the truth no matter how much they spin it. It’s a fantasy too - just a very negative, risk-averse and hedonistic one. I think it will be tougher than it would be if he were living in his own … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 05:55 PM |
| 1 | How can I live at home with my parents (I'm 32) and still have a decent dating life?People here are so cynical and shallow it makes me sad sometimes... You will find women who admire your foresight about your finances and your love for your parents. These are very adult and responsible actions but also compassionate. You sound like quite a catch to me! It does kind of depend on what women you envisage dating though. Early 20s, mainstream feminist types? I doubt they’d be onboard - they’d see you (wrongly) as a boring momma’s boy type. Your age group (27-35) are more likely to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/18 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Do you have a source I can read that speaks just to the core principles of The Red Pill without the angry sexism of many RP users? It just gets depressing wading through the ‘how to train women’ and bitter personal anecdotes that prove the most negative aspects of AWALT. I’m all for the truth, but I’m afraid I don’t see completely objective truth in all RP teachings. We’re not talking peer reviewed studies here or math equations - we’re talking theory of human psychology and gender dynamics. It’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 04:05 PM |
| 4 | What do you make of this story? Woman is attacked but doesn't blame the attacker. Instead blames "white men" for not helping her.I’d like to think I would help someone who was being attacked - male or female. I think we’re all entitled to hope someone will help us, doesn’t mean they will. We’re all entitled to get angry if people stand by and do nothing when someone is being verbally or physically attacked. But you can’t force people to act. This woman is one of those hyper-PC, extreme SJW types who sees race and gender conflict everywhere and has bought into ‘middle class white men are to blame for everything’ hook, line… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 09:28 AM |
| 7 | Are feminists against casual approaches?Exactly! I’m a friendly woman who gets approached often by all sorts of people - male and female, children and pets! If you’re smiling and open, there are always people who want to come and say hi and have a casual chat - especially standing in a queue or on a train, etc. I’m not showing signs of sexual interest though - just open to human connection. Guys are free to approach me, but they need to respect me if I say no to romantic advances and not continue to pester me or get personally insulte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/18 07:44 AM |
| 14 | [Q4BP] How do men vet women for possible divorce rape?Wonderful comment. I’m so sick of the ‘divorce raping vengeful bogey-woman’ these guys think is going to erupt from the wonderfully feminine sweetheart they chose to marry! Both people lose in a divorce because it’s property and wealthy accumulated within the marriage that belongs to the marriage - not to each person independently. If you don’t want to share your stuff, don’t get married or get a prenup! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 05:06 PM |
| 10 | The link between polygamy and warYes, exactly. Women would rather go it alone these days than be in those scenarios for sure. Women don’t choose these men, they just usually have no option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 04:59 PM |
| 1 | I'm crossposting this to the various "Pill" Subreddits to see how entrenched people are in their beliefs and to see if there is common ground that can be bridged.I’m purple. I agree that men and women are generally different psychologically - one is not better then the other overall, but there are strengths and weaknesses more inherent in one sex than the other (and we’re best when we work together). I don’t subscribe to the more blue pill idea that men and women are really the same, it’s only nurture and society that creates the differences we see in men and women. I think there are clearly hardwired differences based in our evolutionary biology that pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Women: do you genuinely find men who are unmasculine and show signs of weakness unattractive?I didn’t mean sexy as in making her cry with pleasure or because she’s deepthroating! I meant it as a show of emotion - letting some tears out when she hears a sad story or is particularly happy or excited about something. Some men like women who wear their heart on their sleeve. It’s not about drama. I don’t think it’s dramatic to cry a little - histrionics are a whole other matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Women: do you genuinely find men who are unmasculine and show signs of weakness unattractive?Crying is definitely more associated with female depression. I went through my teens crying every day, I kid you not! I know my depression is getting out of hand when I cry and can’t stop. But then I cry with PMS too for absolutely no reason sometimes. Yeah, I’m a crier... If a man cried as much as I do it would be very odd! Sometimes I think some men would be better off crying though - it’s quite a release. If I’ve had a good cry I tend to feel much better than if I suppress it and try to put a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 01:27 PM |
| 7 | Women: do you genuinely find men who are unmasculine and show signs of weakness unattractive?For me personally, because I’ve struggled with mental health issues such as anxiety, depression and ADHD I empathize with others who have and would never dismiss them outright. As long as someone is trying to get better and not just wallowing in self pity and bitterness, it’s not a deal breaker for me. That being said, it can be shocking when men cry. I think this is because we’re so unused to overt displays of depression or sadness from men and more accustomed to them showing emotions such as a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/18 10:07 AM |
| 1 | I live in a muslim country, and I think the "pill" doesn't apply to us, we have successfully domesticated our people sexually.Of course there’d be some women cheating - I just think it’s extremely unusual here because it’s deeply frowned upon by the religion and society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 07:33 PM |
| 3 | I live in a muslim country, and I think the "pill" doesn't apply to us, we have successfully domesticated our people sexually.That seems to be how it works in many Gulf Arab families. Women are certainly pressured into marriage and choosing the one their parents approve of, but they are given the final decision ultimately. I’ve known a few who have divorced cheating or abusive husbands as well - they need a good reason for a court to grant it, but it’s perfectly possible and usually they can get remarried and are not seen as untouchables as they can be in South Asia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 02:03 PM |
| 3 | I live in a muslim country, and I think the "pill" doesn't apply to us, we have successfully domesticated our people sexually.Oh right. I understand. When I wrote her reply I hadn’t read yet that he was talking about Egypt (a pretty bad Islamic country for women). It is a horrific practice - I’m not defending it. Just as someone who has been an expat in a Muslim country for half my life, I sometimes get sick of people (usually ignorantly) lumping all of Islam in with the worst aspects that are widely publicized in the West. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 01:11 PM |
| 5 | I live in a muslim country, and I think the "pill" doesn't apply to us, we have successfully domesticated our people sexually.I’m a little saddened by how ignorantly anti-Muslim many of these replies are. There are plenty of problems for women in many Islamic countries - but it’s more to do with the culture of that country/region than with Islam itself. My main concern is that while countries like Egypt may seem better for men because of sexual oppression of both sexes - almost all women in Egypt have been groped and harassed in public and feel very unsafe around men who are not close relatives. That’s sad. It’s very i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 01:05 PM |
| 3 | I live in a muslim country, and I think the "pill" doesn't apply to us, we have successfully domesticated our people sexually.FGM is not only practiced by Muslims - it’s more cultural to a region than it is Islamic. Islamic scholars have actually declared it ‘unislamic’ and there is no reference to it in the Koran. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 12:56 PM |
| 6 | I live in a muslim country, and I think the "pill" doesn't apply to us, we have successfully domesticated our people sexually.I live in a Muslim country and know several local women who have turned down marriage offers several times because they didn’t like the man. In general, the women have the choice of who they marry and they don’t marry before 18 here, as far as I know. They will usually marry a man of a similar age. They can’t date, no, but they can say no if they don’t like him or don’t want to marry yet. This is a wealthy Muslim country with a lot of Western influence - it’s very different in Yemen and again qu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/18 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Well, to me I view everything with some kind of awareness of my morality. Therefore of course the negativity of AWALT rubs me the wrong way. Aspects of it are true, but as any truly open minded person, I don’t like absolutes and pigeon holes. It’s black and white thinking that I dislike and RP has a lot of it. I believe there are many problems for men and women today and we have to find a way forward together. RP (as it looks right now - maybe it was less so once) seems to have given up on this … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/18 06:32 PM |
| 1 | [Q4W] Socially awkward attractive dude vs below average dude with game/charismaThis is true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/18 05:32 PM |
| 4 | [Q4W] Socially awkward attractive dude vs below average dude with game/charismaIf a man gives me an ‘off’ vibe I don’t care how hot he is, I’m politely breaking off the conversation and moving on. Being socially awkward is not necessarily an off vibe though - an off vibe is more sensing anger or coldness... If I sense he’s just a bit shy or unused to social interactions, then the hot guy wins. Not just because he’s hot, but because I’m an introverted person myself, so I can relate - and life of the party sort of people can overwhelm me. But I’d definitely take the below av… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/18 02:06 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women: Let's talk about men's hair. :))Don’t care much at all about men’s hair. Can’t give you all these percentages - I really don’t add it up like that. I like long hair on some men, not on others, buzz cuts on some, not on others, baldness on some, not on others, etc...it’s really down to the individual man and his overall look. As long as it’s not a toupee or bad hair plugs or something - it’s fine by me. Men that fuss a lot about their hair turn me off, tbh. It should be relatively low maintenance and smell good. Basic stuff. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/18 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: Let's talk about men's hair. :))I love gingers!! How dare you! :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/18 08:21 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?I’m purple because I don’t agree with some of the RP theory. I don’t pretend to know it deeply, but AWALT rubs me the wrong way and it seems most RP advice is aimed at getting men laid and keeping emotional investment to a minimum. I don’t know how much the current sub differs from the original RP advice and grounding theory, but it just seems to be too many angry men and too much ‘women are bad’ as a response to ‘women are wonderful’. It lacks nuance. Because I’m liberal in most respects, but d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/18 04:36 AM |
| 2 | What do you make of me? (35F)You sound a lot like my mother who has supported my artist dad for 44 years! They’re very loyal to each other and I admire that - but he’s had an easy ride in many ways and it’s held them both back to some extent. As long as you’re not counting on him to one day be the breadwinner, it’s fine. My parents had been married 10 years before they decided to have me (my mum was 31 when she had me) and my dad become the stay at home parent. He wasn’t great at the cleaning and cooking, but he was a great… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/18 02:20 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Where I see it has gone wrong with my parents is that my father is very unfocused and my mother taking the breadwinner role has enabled that more. They love each other deeply and have supported each other through many a tough time - their loyalty is unbreakable, for better or worse. They took their vows seriously. I admire them for that, but I’m not sure they’re a good example of the traditional role reversal - it’s been of detriment to them both in some ways. But that could be more down to them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?Yes, I’m living in the Gulf and the women here tend to age well - though they also get almost no sun, so I think that helps (but means vitamin D deficiency is rife). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 03:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?I know! I experimented at 16, realised it was kind of fun to do but didn’t actually look great and I just stopped. I haven’t worn more than mascara and lipstick since. Saves me money and time too! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?I agree. Natural is almost always better! There are few women I can think of that truly look better with lots of make up. A bit of mascara and lipstick is good. Dark brows, fake eyelashes, contouring, highlighting and lip liner should be saved for studio lighting and suitable parties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 01:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?This is probably why I never got into make up - I was a very fat teenager and it just made me look awful. Like a drag queen! I think it can especially ruin beautiful girls though - they can make themselves look harsh and older with those brows and with a lot of make up in general. 9/10 times keeping as close to natural is best for the day time. Feel free to go a bit OTT when you’re out having fun if you find makeup is like a hobby, but day to day I don’t get why young women want to look like ins… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?This has been my observation of Eastern European women as well. They look absolutely stunning when they’re young and somehow completely transform into dumpy older women...I think Italian and French women age better. They tend to stay a similar weight and they also dress well. I am ¼ Italian and it holds true of the women in my family who are ½ Italian or more. I think the Irish is winning in me though...lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 09:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?Lol, this is such a weird trend right now - the HD brows that just look incredibly dark and OTT. Very aging imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 09:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?Make up has so much to do with it. I’m 34 and am often mistaken for mid twenties. I don’t wear any foundation or concealer (never have, simply never learned how to do it and didn’t feel I needed it). I think too many young women look older than they are because they wear so much make up. No matter how great and ‘natural’ they think it looks in selfies, it’s often very obvious there’s a lot on their skin and it makes them look anywhere from 30-50 sometimes! And they might only be 21, lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 09:25 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: What are the most important physical effects of female aging to you, and why exactly are these things so important?By my understanding it’s mostly the skin losing elasticity as it thins with aging. There are lifestyles and genetic factors that accelerate this, but it happens to everyone. Men have thicker skin to begin with, and produce more collagen and oils, so they have that advantage when it comes to their skin aging - but a disadvantage with thinning hair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/18 09:21 AM |
| 6 | [Q4W] How is AWALT any different from saying "Men are trash"?‘All men are trash’ is a sweeping statement. It certainly doesn’t have the calculated, detailed thoroughness of AWALT. That alone makes them quite different. I think most people believe saying ‘all men are trash’ is wrong though if it’s said seriously, don’t they? There are negative stereotypes about men - and plenty of flippant jokes not intended to actually apply to all men. AWALT proponents, as I understand it, do literally mean all women are like that and it certainly isn’t used flippantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 09:11 PM |
| 6 | [Q4W] How is AWALT any different from saying "Men are trash"?I’d like to know this also. Haven’t seen them mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 08:40 PM |
| 8 | [Q4W] How is AWALT any different from saying "Men are trash"?This is my experience also. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 08:27 PM |
| 16 | [Q4W] How is AWALT any different from saying "Men are trash"?Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 08:26 PM |
| 2 | Post a picture of what a perfect 10/10 female body is to you. Ignore the face.Yeah, envy I think. They’re usually older ladies or younger than me but look my age... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Post a picture of what a perfect 10/10 female body is to you. Ignore the face.Yes, it is funny! Women usually look at me with mild disgust though...lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Post a picture of what a perfect 10/10 female body is to you. Ignore the face.I guarantee it’s true. I know that doesn’t mean anything online, but it’s the best I can do. :) I mean, if I have a bad day I’m sure I look basically my age - but when I’m well rested and happy, I do look mid twenties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 03:06 PM |
| 3 | Post a picture of what a perfect 10/10 female body is to you. Ignore the face.Well, you’re kind of talking to a woman who has bucked this trend a bit. I’m overweight, 34 and everyone thinks I’m a lot younger. I’ve been carded when buying wine in the supermarket (in the UK where they card anyone who looks 25 and under) and a lot of people look shocked when I give my age. I think it’s mostly that I have good bone structure, peachy skin and no real wrinkles. And my mother is a totally different body shape to me - she’s more your type. I’m the buxom matronly type - you’d be a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 01:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?I’m basically saying this is the reason lots of women give for not being into watching porn. I tend to think the majority are into it with eyes wide open and it’s therefore not exploitative or degrading. I mentioned Erika Lust and some Kink.com stuff - I thinks it’s better than the mainstream fake crap. And yeah, amateur is often better because you can see the chemistry between the couples and there might be a bit of ‘playing it up for the camera’ but it’s not formulaic and fake. I still prefer … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 01:30 PM |
| 3 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?Idk, I think that’s an exaggeration. It’s certainly off putting to many women that it’s so often stereotyped that men are terribly selfish in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 01:01 PM |
| 3 | Post a picture of what a perfect 10/10 female body is to you. Ignore the face.Her face is what looks very young to me... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 12:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: how would you feel if a random 5-6/10 woman you barely know started aggressively talking and flirting with you out of the blue?This is the attitude to have. And more women should be flattered at male attention - so long as it doesn’t cross the line into harassment or groping. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 12:32 PM |
| 7 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?I watch porn sometimes...but a lot of women don’t want to or don’t find it at all arousing. I think there’s three reasons for this. 1) There’s an iffy ethical aspect to it - are the women emotionally damaged and being exploited and degraded? If you feel you’re watching something like that you feel guilty and that’s not very arousing! I tend to only watch porn when I have heard the women speak about it and that somehow reassures me they’re fully consenting adults...I may be kidding myself, but...… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 12:30 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: how would you feel if a random 5-6/10 woman you barely know started aggressively talking and flirting with you out of the blue?Yes, most likely the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 12:01 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: how would you feel if a random 5-6/10 woman you barely know started aggressively talking and flirting with you out of the blue?Yes, this is true. I think women should see male attention (the non harassing kind, obv) in this way - just take it as a compliment and let it brighten your day! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 12:01 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?It isn’t the truth, that’s why people are disagreeing with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 08:00 AM |
| 6 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?Lol. This is ridiculous hyperbole. Can’t believe it’s believed by so many men! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 07:59 AM |
| 10 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?Most women are not asexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 07:58 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?This isn’t necessarily true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 07:57 AM |
| 10 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?You’re not alone. I grew up thinking this as a woman - that somehow sex wasn’t about pleasure for women and we were expected to ‘lie back and think of England’. TMI but I started masturbating at 11/12 and that feeling was great - just didn’t think men were capable of giving that same feeling. I guess I’d heard lots of stuff in movies/tv where men were talked about as being disinterested in women’s sexual pleasure and it was something they took great pleasure in and we endured. Really sad when yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 07:55 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?My mother is like that. She just wasn’t brought up in a sex positive environment (Catholic all girl boarding school) and she has a very passive and introverted personality. She has financially and emotionally supported my dad for over 30 years though and he thinks she’s an angel - so, her low interest in sex hasn’t destroyed their relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 07:50 AM |
| 8 | Q4M: What is the one thing you wish you were taught about women when you were growing up?My dad is still telling me he can’t believe he grew up thinking women were only sexual when they had to be to please a man and to have children. It doesn’t help that my mother is one of those sorts of women though...Catholic boarding school + extremely introverted personality is not a good combo for sex positivity! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 07:48 AM |
| 15 | Q4Men: how would you feel if a random 5-6/10 woman you barely know started aggressively talking and flirting with you out of the blue?Yes, this is where it gets very tricky for women. If we are assertive, we’re too pushy and not appealing. If we wait for men to approach us, then we’re ‘entitled’ and ‘too picky’. It can feel like it’s impossible for a woman to win unless she’s very attractive and then men don’t mind tripping over themselves and making an effort. If she’s very hot, men would probably love her being aggressive and pursuing them. If she’s not, she’s ‘crazy and desperate’....kind of how they say it’s terrible that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 07:39 AM |
| 1 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.Woah! 100 guys! That’s honestly quite disturbing! Surely we can find a middle ground between being sexually positive in the sense of not feeling completely ashamed of sexual urges or FWBs type arrangements, but tempering that with the psychological dangers of sleeping around with zero attachments? I think a lot of young men are also not positively impacted by lots of casual sex - only certain personalities can really handle that detachment. Have you see that documentary on Netflix - Liberated: t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/18 02:29 AM |
| 4 | Is there a difference between “who you are”’ and “what you do”.This is what I was thinking. As if men here are talking about how much they love women for who they are and not what they look like. As if! It’s always ‘she has to be hot’, ‘she can’t be fat’, she needs to look ‘feminine’... The first thing many RP men listed in the recent thread of personality traits they want in a woman was attractiveness/physical traits. That isn’t who a woman is anymore than what job a man does is who he is. Also it’s far less enduring than a career - no woman stays ‘hot’ fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 04:29 PM |
| 8 | Is there a difference between “who you are”’ and “what you do”.I have so many similar stories about men screwing over their wives/gfs. And also stories of women who have stood by a husband who to outsiders didn’t deserve it. Some of these guys are just so blinkered to only ‘women are horrible’ like it’s the only alternative to ‘women are wonderful’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 02:24 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who obsess over hot babes are hurting themselvesWe’re sort of back to psychopathic traits again, lol. Yeah, it’s something we learn young isn’t it, that the popular kids are popular not because they’re nice but because they’re good looking or really exciting and callous. I remember the most popular girl in school telling me I was ‘so nice it makes me sick’ when I was 12. I couldn’t really see that as a put down because I really value being nice, but I know that’s how she meant it. I was much prettier than her and she hated me because her ‘boy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 11:00 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men who obsess over hot babes are hurting themselvesYou’re welcome :) It is really confusing! I usually just try to remember that sociopaths tend not to be as intelligent and organized as psychopaths - they’re more likely to lose control and end up imprisoned early on. I don’t know...I guess I have a visceral dislike of anyone who has no or little compassion. I just think it’s tragically undervalued but is what can make the world a much better place. The best would be being able to mix empathy and compassion with the cool detachment and ambition … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Women being put on a pedestal is deserved and rationalThis makes a lot of sense to me. It’s like some men believe all men can claim superiority because a tiny percentage of men are the most innovative and ingenious members of the human race....We also tend to ignore female inventors and innovators - a smaller percentage of women for sure compared to men, but they have always existed. A lot of the gap can perhaps be explained by how women have needed to be the primary caregivers for almost all of human history - simply not having the time or educati… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 10:43 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who obsess over hot babes are hurting themselvesMost people would say the opposite - that good looking people tend to have worse personalities. Especially very good looking people. Of course, that could be colored by envy, but generally speaking if you’re good looking you’ve had some things easier in life that might give you less depth of personality. ‘Ugly’ people (why are we missing the middle here of just average looking people?) tend to have to ‘make up’ for their physical deficiencies by having a more agreeable and rounded personality. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 10:29 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men who obsess over hot babes are hurting themselvesHow an earth does being a sociopath make you a better human being?! It might well make you a more financially successful human being - that isn’t what being a ‘better’ or ‘good’ person means though. Sociopaths generally too disorganized to be successful - psychopaths are more what you’re describing and psychopaths lack empathy, tend towards superficiality, narcissism, materialism and a lack of personal responsibility and remorse. They’re generally the opposite of good people. That being said, if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/18 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Again, we’re basically in agreement. It’s funny for me because you’d think from the outside looking at my upbringing, that I was raised to be the typical modern woman. My mum is a feminist (70s variety - and not a radfem) and she has always been the main breadwinner - but she’s also incredibly generous, empathetic and forgiving. My dad is a traditional man in many ways, but also a nurturing and generous character. I’ve grown up with a lot of respect for the kinder traits in people, but I see the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 06:26 PM |
| 2 | (Q4all) How many people believe that men do not have any responsibility for fathering children because women have the "final word" on abortion?Thanks :) I’m glad I made sense. Yes, it’s the complete detachment emotionally that bothers me most. Money is not a big deal when we’re talking the value of a human life. It’s like these guys believe all these women will just spend the father’s money on their hair or clothes and the kid just fends for itself. As long as it’s fed and clothed, it raises itself - kids are so easy! Lol. Either these guys replying are a) very young b) have never been around kids c) had terrible parents who put nothin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 04:59 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?I think you’re pretty spot on. I’m not totally sure about feminine looks equaling a feminine personality necessarily. I’ve known women I would say are feminine but don’t look very feminine - and sweet, feminine looking women who were anything but! And as you get older it becomes harder to stay ‘wide eyed and innocent’ about the world and it will reflect on your face. And how about women who are very feminine but just aren’t beautiful? There are a lot of them. Do weight issues detract from their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Really? What’s with all these men saying ‘is that too much to ask for’ then? They seem to think that they should get a woman along these lines. Or are all these lists of traits knowingly pie in the sky dreaming and they’d settle for a lot less? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Can’t you be both smart and emotionally stable? I’d say I’m intelligent, but I’m also highly sensitive. If I’ve overreacted and shouted a storm for no good reason, I will of course apologize. I’m not sure being intelligent makes you less emotionally self-aware... Basically everyone, male and female, loses it and goes too far sometimes. I’ve had experiences with female family and friends who go into histrionics over things - but they almost always apologize. I’ve known men who also fly off the ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Don’t ‘all’ men seem to think they’ve deserving of a hot, feminine women? I don’t see how this is different... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 02:04 PM |
| 5 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Most of the women I know are like this...are we really so unusual? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 01:49 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: what specific personality traits and attributes defines a woman worthy of love and marriage in your eyes?Lol, this is very true! But double standards are only in favor of women, right?! :P | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 01:42 PM |
| 5 | (Q4all) How many people believe that men do not have any responsibility for fathering children because women have the "final word" on abortion?I think this is an interesting question - and a complicated one. This is going to be long! To me, what many here miss is that financial responsibility is not the only responsibility that exists for a child. Money is not going to do everything necessary to raise that child. And it isn’t going to help much in the 9 months of pregnancy and the birth itself and the after effects of that on a woman. It isn’t a replacement for a father figure. It isn’t love and psychological and emotional support. It … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 10:39 AM |
| 2 | (Q4all) How many people believe that men do not have any responsibility for fathering children because women have the "final word" on abortion?This is exactly my thought. If you have a child with half your genes out there, no matter how it came into the world and your relationship to the mother, you should care what happens to it. We should all care about kids, but especially our own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/18 09:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.Hey! I don’t know how I missed your comment - probably got lost in a argument I was having with someone else and I meant to look back on it. Sorry! I might make a post on it....I haven’t done a post before, so I’ll think carefully on how to word it. Psychologically inferior - i guess I mean both in terms of intelligence and emotionality. Traditional men’s views of women are usually that they must be looked after - not just physically (no one disputes that men are physically superior in strength)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/18 05:07 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWI believe we were disagreeing on two things: men having it all figured out and women being created to fulfill men’s needs. This is a debate sub, right? If you disagree with someone and you start to ask questions of each other and state your opinions - it’s a form of debate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Is unhinged hypergamy a potential threat to men's productivity?I agree about politicians. And I don’t hate the rich for existing, not at all. But I do think the current system needs to change. Many people get where they are through good fortune. It doesn’t mean they’re bad people, it doesn’t mean they don’t work hard, but it does mean that it’s a lie to tell everyone that you can achieve success and wealth if you work hard enough and have enough skill and talent. This is quite a good article about how big of a role luck plays in the success of many I don’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 01:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.You’re kind of not considering other values that might be instilled in these girls. It’s not degenerate behavior to have fully consensual sex with like minded people. What further ‘degenerate’ acts are you imagining it leads to? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 01:10 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWI am that ‘type’. I don’t mind being called a hippy per se - I just know it’s often used disparagingly, especially by people with a more rigid/conservative belief system. You might want to work on how you write something in a teasing manner. It didn’t come across as teasing - more like baiting. I’ve been conversing in good faith, answering in detail your plethora of questions and asking you some in return. You don’t seem to answer my questions, you just ask more and make a judgements. It seems l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 01:08 PM |
| 1 | Is unhinged hypergamy a potential threat to men's productivity?I certainly don’t want free everything for everyone. I just don’t think it’s fair at all that only a few people accumulate most of the wealth - many of them not by their own merits, but by luck or knowing the right people (or being born into the right family). I don’t pretend to know the first thing about fixing this. I simply think there must be a better way that doesn’t create the plutocracy we seem to have now and the massive income gaps below it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 03:46 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWThat’s all you got from what I wrote? Do you see hippie’s in a good or bad light? I’m saying I have my own way of thinking about things and don’t subscribe to any organized religion or ideology (not that being a hippie is either of those things - and I don’t consider myself a hippie). I don’t like labels. You seem determined to corner me into one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 03:37 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWI believe you’re wrong. You told me that was shit stirring. How does that make sense? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/18 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Question for BP: Do you sincerely believe Reds lack ANY nuance?Why are we purple peeps here though!? Masochism? Morbid curiosity? Love of philosophical and sociological mindfucks? Hehe. In many ways I’m blue (I mostly fit into your bloop category #1), but I find sense in some of the red...both are a bit too smug in their own proclamations of the ‘truth’ for me to pick a ‘side’ (especially the main TRPers on here). I’m straddling the fence though on lots of things - I’d rather be mutable than rigid... Oh and 3 is a beautiful number - you must be onto somethi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 06:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWA romanticized ideal of having intrinsic value as a human? A natural value as a female is obviously to be a mother. This does not however mean I have to be subjugated to a male. As a human being who is more than a biological imperative? My value is what I can learn in life to enlighten myself and others. My value is what I leave behind in this world and maybe also in my soul. I’m not a believer in a particular organized religion, but I’m not an atheist. I believe there is more than than what sci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 06:12 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWHow is that shit stirring? I don’t think it’s remotely demonstrable that men have it all figured out. You haven’t tried to demonstrate it and have just given two and three word statements. I thought instead of wasting words I’d just disagree... Seems like you just want to get a rise out of me - and that’s the definition of shit stirring... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 05:52 PM |
| 6 | Is unhinged hypergamy a potential threat to men's productivity?And men beat up women all the time...except they don’t actually. Some men do. Some women shit on good men. Most don’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 05:46 PM |
| 5 | Is unhinged hypergamy a potential threat to men's productivity?You need to stop reading the manosphere and take off your blinkers about women. Women are not out to get you. No, women are not all wonderful - but not all women are hypergamous, gold digging sluts out to divorce rape you! The majority are not that at all. This fear is totally out of proportion to the risk in reality. 1 in 3 women are the victims of domestic violence where I’m from. I don’t avoid getting close to men because of this. It’s a risk, but not a guarantee. 1 in 3 marriages end in divo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 05:01 PM |
| 9 | Is unhinged hypergamy a potential threat to men's productivity?Most women don’t shit on good men. Where’s the evidence of that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 04:25 PM |
| 5 | Is unhinged hypergamy a potential threat to men's productivity?Absolutely right! The real problem is the economic system, not the SMP and female hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 04:18 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWNo it’s not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 04:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWIt’s dehumanizing because it makes us out to be more like a useful appliance than a sovereign being with our own thoughts, feelings and dreams. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 04:08 PM |
| 1 | Are men or women more likely to use sex as a reward/punishment?You’re not making any sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Who is Chad anyway?Ok. I don’t know anything about this stuff scientifically. It’s just from observation. So some men don’t naturally have broader shoulders than others - it’s all about musculature? When I say bone structure, I’m meaning the muscle attachments too as they are presumably immutable?....Some really muscular guys don’t seem to have broad shoulders - some guys who don’t work out seem to have broad shoulders... Does this also hold true for women and their hourglass type shape? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Thinking going mgtow because current f/26 girlfriend M/29I can well imagine! I had a female friend like that and eventually had to end the friendship after years of it because she was just so emotionally draining and needy. I wanted to help her, but in the end I realised she was sucking the life out of me and giving me very little in return. But thankfully I didn’t live with her - I wouldn’t have lasted long at all then! I think the men who think they want it don’t actually know what it’s like to be sooo important to someone that you are like their fl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 02:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWCan you give me an example of an illogical post/comment by a woman here? And I don’t mean an outlier or femcel (like the recent one about cam girls - that was decidedly illogical), I mean a woman who regularly posts here and is generally well regarded. Emotional doesn’t necessarily mean it’s also illogical. Many men here post emotional things too because they’re angry and fearful of being manipulated or used by women, either from past experience or anecdotes in the manosphere. Anger and fear are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 01:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWWhy is it awful that women are supposedly created to fulfill the needs of men? Because it is dehumanizing to be seen as simply a creation for the use of others and not as individuals with our own purpose. But I don’t believe animals were created to serve the needs of men either. I don’t believe the world revolves around men and their needs... This excerpt from Alfred Lord Tennyson sums up my feelings on this - and also speaks to your other comment saying men have it all figured out. I simply don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 01:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWMen have it all figured out? Really? That’s an enormously arrogant claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Who is Chad anyway?I didn’t think it was the same aesthetic exactly, simply that most men have some kind of v shape due to bone structure. I thought that’s what v shape was referring to - the underlying bone structure, not the muscle mass. Surely if a man has broader skeletal structure in the shoulders, it can create a v shape look without much musculature? Similarly, a man without the broad bone structure can create it by working on those particular muscle groups? Just seems that underlying bone structure has som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 12:52 PM |
| 8 | Thinking going mgtow because current f/26 girlfriend M/29It sounds like she’s wrong for you mate. If she’s draining you emotionally, then end it. Of course she’s not going to be happy being a friends with benefits type - she’s obviously very co dependent. If you want your own space and no longer want to live with her, then it’s best with you both to end it for good. It doesn’t sound like you really love her - more that you like aspects of her, think she’s hot and enjoy the sex. This isn’t good for either of you to continue with one of you much more em… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 07:13 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Who is Chad anyway?Ok. I just know my dad is fat and has always had broad shoulders compared to his waist and hips. He has good muscle mass, but also fat. The real strong men types are like that too - fat bellies, but high muscle mass. They don’t tend to look as v shaped as leanly muscled men...but I’ve seen very skinny men who are very v shaped but have low muscle mass. Muscles accentuate it, but they’re not the only reason it’s there, imo. I just thought it was a shape, not a descriptor of muscle mass. Maybe the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 06:35 AM |
| 4 | Discussion: Who is Chad anyway?Yes, this is very true. A v shaped torso can be seen on fat men, skinny men, short or tall - and it can be absent on all those men too. Working out enhances it, but if the underlying bone structure isn’t there, it’s not going to be very impressive no matter what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 03:43 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWYeah, I just think it’s different brains! My dad says the same thing about women being more manipulative or guilt tripping or something - but I know for sure that me and my mother never intentionally shit stir just to upset him. I think it’s a mismatch in communication styles. Women tend to try to be diplomatic - they think it’s helpful to try to give advice and seek common ground. Men don’t do this as much. As you say, they just won’t say anything. I’ve learned not to do it too often because I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 03:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWI completely get your feelings about feminism - I’m the same. I don’t like the man hating stuff and I don’t like the ‘women are better people and we’re all sisters’ stuff. I also don’t like the similar attitudes in much of the manosphere of ‘women are bad, men are superior’ and ‘women are designed to fulfill men’s needs’. Both extremes are sexist. It’s worth reading aspects of both sides because they sometimes have good insights, interesting research and actionable advice to make you a better pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 02:58 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWHorrifying is hyperbole, yeah. It’s just sad and kind of galling to read it in such an unabashed way. I get the red guys not wanting to be beholden to women or being worshipful of them, but to genuinely not care about their pleasure and believe they’re designed to pleasure him - basically they want to be worshipped...That is pretty awful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/18 02:45 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWSince when is saying you feel sorry for someone over their attitude/mindset character assassination or emotional abuse? It’s a genuine sense of ‘jeez, it’s hard to imagine this guy being happy with a woman if he thinks this way about all women, maybe I can help improve his outlook’. It’s not meant to be abusive, that’s for sure. The trouble for me is that so many men here refuse to listen to what women have to say - they even say women give bad advice and don’t know what they’re talking about or… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 04:57 PM |
| 6 | CMV: The Redpill is turning into MGTOWUgh, that’s a horrifying post...’she’s designed to please you’...’sex isn’t just about procreation it’s about fulfilling a male need’...’she just wants you to use her to please you’...Creep-tastic! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 04:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.It depends on context. Some people use those slurs in banter. But here online in a subreddit about gender dynamics, they are most certainly used to shame women’s sexuality into a more rigid, traditional structure. To me, everyone has different attitudes and desires when it comes to sex. There are many men who are not interested in spinning plates or having NSA sex with as many women as possible. Many men want just one woman to call their own who they will have fun and fulfilling sex with and sha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 11:08 AM |
| 2 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.I think your attitude to it is healthy and much like William H Macy’s when it comes to his daughters The quality and circumstances of sex are important. The alternative to being a demure low-N non-slut is not gangbangs in a public restroom! It’s enjoyable and safe sex with trustworthy people - whether it’s many people over time, all at once or only one person for a lifetime - it’s the quality and circumstances that count. Few healthy minded women are going to be enthusiastically gangbanged in pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 10:10 AM |
| 2 | CMV: People's negative attitudes about female sexuality are 100% unjustifiable/benighted.Yes, this makes no sense. With one partner you are likely getting more PIV mileage than a woman who is having casual sex with different partners - she’s likely only doing that on the weekends... Also, sex does not wear out the vagina so the whole premise of ‘sluts’ being looser is false. The only thing that’s going to make your vagina looser is multiple births (still, many women do not get permanently loosened by this) or deliberate attempts to make it loose (this is a fetish). Some women are na… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Are men or women more likely to use sex as a reward/punishment?Are you serious? Being fat and carrying a baby are not the same things. Many men blob around at >50 lbs overweight too, they still have no idea of pregnancy. I have no experience of pregnancy, but I have experience of periods, the very strong pain and the roller coaster of hormones they can produce. I have a friend who said her period pain was as bad as her labor pain when she had a baby. Women go through a lot when they carry a baby - they are virtually carrying a parasite for 9 months. Men don… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/18 06:38 AM |
| 5 | Are men or women more likely to use sex as a reward/punishment?This is a very uneven parallel. Carrying a baby for 9 months and sacrificing a great deal to it for many years is vastly different to someone giving you an orgasm as a reward for something. I don’t think any woman sees a baby as a reward... It would be better to say: women like non-sexual displays of affection - hugs, compliments, thoughtful gifts and gestures, etc. You could reward or punish many women through this. Women like orgasms too, so that would also work! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 05:31 PM |
| 6 | CMV: You can't have a sexually adventurous woman in bed who doesn't have a past which involves having the same sex with other men.I was going to mention this. Women now grow up reading erotic fan fiction and watching porn too. They may have no experience but have a pretty wild fantasy life that they’d love to play out for real given a trustworthy man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Is anyone else physically attracted more to one sex and emotionally more to the other?I think on average that’s true. I’m a deep thinking woman and most of my female friends are the same - and the male ones too. But this is because I gravitate towards those sorts of people for friendships - when I judge casual acquaintances and random strangers, it seems to me that women tend not to be so deep thinking. They’re usually more pragmatic and aesthetically oriented. When I just meet people, I tend to find conversations with men far more rewarding and engaging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/18 03:55 AM |
| 1 | Movies That Should Be Required PPD ViewingsHaha, yeah! That’s a good one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/18 06:03 AM |
| 2 | Have a Good Memorial Day Weekend, PPDers!You too! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/18 06:02 AM |
| 2 | Have a Good Memorial Day Weekend, PPDers!There’s no holiday here :( Just Ramadan, so no food or water publicly during the day...Yay! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/18 06:02 AM |
| 3 | Have a Good Memorial Day Weekend, PPDers!I love whisky and I get it from my mum. She’s always been teased for it and so have I. I talked to a whisky expert in Scotland and he said research shows women prefer smoky whiskies more than men - true of me, I love really smoky whisky (generally considered to be the most ‘manly’ whisky because it’s not sweet)...My dad likes sweetened long drinks and me and my mum love our single malt, neat whisky... :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/18 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Weight might not be that big of a deal after allI knew I shouldn’t have been honest. Nice how people personally put you down when you admit flaws... Yes, thanks for pointing out the obvious and ignoring what else I said in my comments. I’m losing weight, I know it’s not healthy...I don’t aim to be ideal weight because I don’t think it’s necessary to be and it is more than enough to improve my health and appearance to lose 25lbs. It’s extra hard when you have rheumatoid arthritis and take meds that can cause weight gain. I’m trying my best and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/18 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Weight might not be that big of a deal after allThat’s unnecessarily personal and mean spirited. If you read what I stated above, I am losing weight and know I’m fat. Fat shaming doesn’t work and just makes you a bully. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/18 04:41 AM |
| 3 | [Q4M] What’s the worst ways feminism has affected men today?This really bothers me. What happened to due process? It infantilises women and demonises men when sexual assault is framed in this way. It has been rolled back by Betsy DeVos under Trump, but the precedent has already been set by these sorts of victim feminists that seem to think anything could be sexual assault if a woman isn’t 100% lucid and enthusiastic (nevermind if the man isn’t either). Calling a woman like the one in this great article about Title IX a ‘rape survivor’ is preposterous! Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 01:32 PM |
| 1 | Weight might not be that big of a deal after all5’4” 180lbs WHR .76 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 01:04 PM |
| 8 | Is anyone else physically attracted more to one sex and emotionally more to the other?I’m very heterosexual because I’m both physically and emotionally attracted to men. Put me at a dinner party with strangers and 90% of the time I’ll be talking with the men rather than the women. I just find them more interesting to talk to in general. But I know some incredible women who I admire greatly and are true friends - kind, passionate and deep thinking. But if you told me I could only be close with one gender, I’d pick men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 10:31 AM |
| 1 | Weight might not be that big of a deal after allYes. I used to be a lot fatter, but even then it was relatively well distributed. Even doctors would call me ‘somewhat’ overweight instead of obese because I looked like I carried it ok (but it was screwing up my hormones for sure). It always helps women look better if their boobs eclipse their belly and they have a good WHR (then it’s easier to hide that you have quite a big belly!) My main focus is to get fitter and stronger and not worry so much about the scales. I come from a family where al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 10:25 AM |
| 7 | Who are worse bullies, men or women?I don’t think one is worse. I think it’s so individual and comes in many forms. Usually bullying occurs within a gender it seems, so it’s hard to compare them equally. I think women are more likely to be psychological bullies, and men more physical - but physical bullying can also feel very psychological...I would say they’re equally damaging if prolonged. I’m not sure these incidents count as bullying, but here are some personal anecdotes. I was slapped by a girl in elementary and middle school… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Weight might not be that big of a deal after allAbout 25lbs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 09:11 AM |
| 1 | Weight might not be that big of a deal after allFrom personal experience as an overweight woman with a nice face and the excess weight mostly in the right places, it doesn’t matter to most men that my BMI is well above ideal. I think facial features and overall symmetry of shape is more important than weight for both men and women - but there’s obviously a point where the weight distorts it all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/18 04:16 AM |
| 1 | would you....Yeah, maybe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 07:13 PM |
| 1 | would you....There’s a lot of hyperbole here, but I get where you’re coming from. There’s a lot wrong with male-female dynamics and there needs to be more acknowledgment of the detriments of modern feminism for men and more action to address them. Is there no middle ground where male sexuality is restrained a little back from the predatory and female sexuality is somewhat restricted? Is the only way forward truly backwards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 05:49 PM |
| 3 | The Bachelor - Part 2 (Advice)Please stay away from the white girl. She sounds like a lot of trouble and not what you need. You don’t want to be 3rd best and her coming back to you after so much time (and troubles on her part) is a big red flag of desperation. She won’t make a good wife if she sees you as a ‘may as well’ sort of option. I don’t think you should rush but I can understand the desire to. If I were you, I’d look for a truly traditional Muslim girl, not a convert. It can be just a phase for some people and it wou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 05:43 PM |
| 1 | would you....That could be right. I just also understand from others here (from the US, such as Atlas) that divorce rape is a thing of the past. Are they wrong? And do you see these issues with marriage as being primarily a problem with US women because of your particular culture or is it the same for women worldwide because of female genetic traits? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 05:25 PM |
| 6 | #nolittlegirlA little girl shouldn’t even know what a prostitute is - so yeah, no little girl should be saying ‘I want to have sex with strangers for money when I grow up’! That’s just so messed up. But, I don’t believe all sex workers are fucked up women. Most of them are or are in such dire straits it’s the only real option, but I believe some of them genuinely enjoy giving sexual companionship, receiving praise and favours and the money they can make. This obviously really only applies to highly paid sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 05:09 PM |
| 1 | would you....I haven’t downvoted you. I disagree, but I don’t downvote. There are shitty women and shitty men - not all men appreciate a woman’s commitment and what she brings to the table that isn’t of monetary or sexual value. Not all women marry in good faith. But not all women get into marriage to manipulate, emasculate and divorce rape men just like not all men emotionally and physically use and abuse women. Marriage does still mean a lot to a lot of people, women included. From your comments here you d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Would you rather have your son be an ugly 3/10 with a heart of gold, or an utterly ruthless, sadistic, sociopath that's a 9/10?Oh yeah ok, I get it. OP was definitely all over the place. No one is quite so cut and dry either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 03:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” as justification for believing “AWALT” is a flawed analogy that encourages excessive cynicism and paranoiaThanks :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 03:53 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: Would you rather have your son be an ugly 3/10 with a heart of gold, or an utterly ruthless, sadistic, sociopath that's a 9/10?OP said sadistic sociopath, not your run-of-the-mill politician/CEO sociopath. Professor James Fallon is a psychopath, but not a sadistic one. He’s done a lot of good research in neuroscience and is an admirable and productive human being. Nothing wrong with that. If OP said a non-violent, non-sadistic sociopath who wasn’t cruel, just didn’t have empathy, but was productive otherwise - I’d probably still give it to the kind 3/10, because I value kindness immensely, but I’d admit the good looking… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 11:13 AM |
| 1 | CMV: “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” as justification for believing “AWALT” is a flawed analogy that encourages excessive cynicism and paranoiaBtw, Vyvanse isn’t available in the UAE, so I’m stuck with Concerta. :( But off the SNRI, so hopefully that will help a lot - once I’m over the horrible withdrawal (that the doc said is no big deal and didn’t need to taper...). I’ve already had a mother of a migraine, fatigue and trembling and have only skipped a day (and have been secretly tapering for a week by halving the tablet...). Docs are sometimes so clueless and downright irresponsible about antidepressant withdrawal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 10:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” as justification for believing “AWALT” is a flawed analogy that encourages excessive cynicism and paranoiaI think that’s good - to make men see women as just people, rather than angels. Guess I just don’t think they need to be told in such an extreme, ‘all women are shit’ kind of way. But if it takes a sharp blow, then I guess it doesn’t matter if the outcome is being aware that women are just people too.... But some seem to take it as all women are less moral than men, out to divorce rape and are irrevocably untrustworthy. That’s just going too far. Only the most radical of redfems truly believes a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 10:45 AM |
| 4 | would you....TRPers like /u/LewisCross need to read this. This is very true about many women and their ‘woman’s skills’ and how we can improve men’s lives a huge amount and not have that valued. I have the housewifery skills - the ‘wind beneath your wings’ skills and they can be easily under-appreciated and exploited by an ungrateful man if I don’t value them and make sure he values them. Many men have benefited from women in this way for millennia and still many don’t acknowledge the huge boost it gives the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 05:51 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Would you rather have your son be an ugly 3/10 with a heart of gold, or an utterly ruthless, sadistic, sociopath that's a 9/10?Definitely not a sadistic sociopath. They suffer from never having true human connections, not feeling real love and therefore to me, not feeling happiness - they’ll be hated, resented and feared by most people. Their lives depend on exploiting and therefore causing suffering to others. Being good looking doesn’t erase being an evil human being. Getting pussy (most likely from low value crazy women or the women he rapes or manipulates) is not the be all and end all of a fulfilled life. I’d rathe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/18 04:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV: “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” as justification for believing “AWALT” is a flawed analogy that encourages excessive cynicism and paranoiaSure, there’s a natural suspicion of strangers - but it’s subconscious. I don’t consciously think ‘this man might rape me because I know some men rape women’ but I just know instinctively that I need to know someone a little bit before being completely open. Though, honestly, I have let strangers into the house - delivery people, etc. I don’t really think for a minute that I could be in danger - though there’s a very small chance. Maybe I’m too naive, I’m just not very security conscious. It’s a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/18 02:48 PM |
| 11 | Men didn't oppress women- mother nature did.So you’re saying women are/were parasites? They didn’t/don’t benefit men at all - but didn’t/don’t harm them? That has no basis in reality. Without women, more men can’t be born and fed. Without women, many men wouldn’t have the motivation to push boundaries and stand out. Without women to take primary care of offspring, men wouldn’t have the time or resources to be more creative and big picture thinkers. Women being primary caregivers and domestic workers has freed many men to do more than just… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 04:59 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Only redpilled men truly respect women.Absolutely this. You summed it up perfectly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withOk. If it’s as simple as that for you, then there’s no point in talking more about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 12:26 PM |
| 2 | A hypothetical about masculinityAbsolutely agree! Recklessness is often associated with masculinity but it's an immature/uncontrolled form of masculine traits (like assertiveness, competitiveness, protectiveness) that does more harm than good (for all involved). That's why I don't agree that simply violence is an attractive 'quality' in men. Appropriate violence, yes, but hair-trigger or offensive violence? No. Though there sure are women who get this all muddled up and love violent criminals and such...Most women are very att… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withI guess I'm trying to get into the mindset of having sex with a male friend - that's why it went personal. I don't see how being a good friend equals having sex when sex has never been a part of the friendship. Friendship + sex = relationship to me. I've never been able to understand the friends with benefits set up. It's either platonic or it's sexual - can't be both. But you can have platonic friends of the opposite sex, imo. I guess that's where we fundamentally differ. If you had a female fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 11:22 AM |
| 2 | A hypothetical about masculinityAssertive and dominant, yes - violent? Not so much. In this example, I wouldn’t be happy if my man just started a physical fight with this guy. I’d think it was most manly and yet level-headed to do as /u/TheGreasyPole says and stand up, verbally challenge, expect an apology and if the idiot keeps escalating from there, then lay him out. I saw my dad do this once and respected him a lot. He got in the guys space and forced him to back down without touching him (and my dad’s 5’8” vs the other guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 08:50 AM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withSex is very intimate and not something to give as a ‘favor’ in my book. If there’s no sexual attraction on a woman’s part to the man, then she won’t desire sex with him and if she were to somehow do him that ‘favor’, it would likely leave her feeling used and resentful that he would expect such an intimate thing. Does a man really want sex from a woman who doesn’t want him? Star fish pity sex? I’d hate to feel that kind of resentment and disinterest from someone. If a male friend of mine, who ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/18 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withOk. Fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 07:54 PM |
| 2 | A hypothetical about masculinityThis answer makes the most sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 07:42 PM |
| 3 | What is your line? What has to happen for 1- a man, and 2- a woman to receive a well-deserved full force knockout punch to the face?I agree with all this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 07:40 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withBecause you’re not in a relationship - you are platonic friends and there’s no sexual component to your companionship? Why should she be obligated to have sex with you? Can’t you be friends with a woman without wanting sex from her? If you’re attracted to her and it’s not reciprocated and you can’t let the sexual attraction go, then yeah, you can’t be friends with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 07:33 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withThat her husband is sleeping with a woman who is healthy, clean and not trying to break up his relationship with the main wife. If she’s just a bit in the side, she wouldn’t know any of that. It’s not detrimental in my book to give to something that doesn’t directly benefit you or your lineage. Charity is along those lines. It’s detrimental if you don’t have your own children with this woman, I guess... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 07:30 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withIf that’s the way you feel, fair enough. I just still think it’s limiting. I don’t quite understand your reasoning though. If she is a single mother and you date her, it’s like she cheated because she has a kid? I don’t get that. Do you feel this way about a woman who has had any relationship before you? That you’re second best in her eyes because another man had her first? Did you try with her before if you have known her while she’s in a relationship with another man? If she rejected you in fa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 07:26 PM |
| 1 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withI don’t think it’s necessarily a benefit to take on a step kid - just not necessarily a detriment. It might enrich a man’s life to open it to the child and woman because he’s very compatible with them. He might not be able to have children of his own. He might love having kids around and be able to accept ones without his genes and feel good about that generosity and lack of jealousy. A woman could benefit from polygamy with a man if he’s wealthy enough to support multiple wives and many childre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship with1) Everyone has to come to their own conclusions, imo, I never take action on advice I receive unless I put my spin on it and it makes total sense to me. But asking for advice is not the same as taking advice. Asking for instructions out of insecurity and then doing what people say, is weak, but asking for opinions and advice and then drawing your own conclusions from it is just smart. 2) Friends have sex with friends? Do guys have sex with each other in the name of friendship when they’re horny… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 06:03 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withYeah. There will always be people against anything that isn’t the norm. In the end, you should go by what your gut tells you is right for you, not what other people think is right for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 05:27 PM |
| 4 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withIt came across. Some of the men here just seem to think every man is an island and must figure it all out on his own. Despite the fact they believe in TRP advice about women and how to spin plates, etc, and believe men need instructional, actionable advice to improve themselves, and not just time to think things over (as your female friends suggested). You obviously have your instincts about it and are drawing conclusions, but want some input and opinions from others. I think that’s a good way t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 05:25 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withWell, isn’t TRP about giving men advice? Actionable advice? It’s seeking answers and advice that surely drives a lot of men to RP and the manosphere? In the end, of course, advice only works if a person comes to their own conclusions on it and takes action on their own terms. But seeking advice is a good thing to get to that point, surely? Women can have interests, work, causes, etc in common with a man which form a basis of friendship. They can talk and do things together surrounding those comm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 05:13 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withIt makes sense if she’s open to it. I’m not against polyamory. I don’t think it should be forced on anyone, but I also believe some people aren’t jealous that way and that’s a noble thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 05:04 PM |
| 1 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withLol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 04:03 PM |
| 1 | CMV: “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” as justification for believing “AWALT” is a flawed analogy that encourages excessive cynicism and paranoiaSee, I don’t like to live worrying about stuff that’s unlikely to happen. I won’t walk alone in well known dodgy areas, sure, but I’m certainly not suspicious of all men. What RP is saying here is that all women should be guilty until proven innocent of being a gold-digging, branch-swinging, BPD ridden, disloyal hypergamist and I just don’t see how it’s helpful to go into interactions with people thinking the worst. It often comes out in some way that you don’t have an open mind and heart and ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withYeah, I don’t entirely understand it. But I don’t know any single mothers. Well, my aunt and uncle divorced and shared custody of their two boys (who are very successful men now), so I guess that made her a single mother and him a single father? They were amicable though and it all worked out fine for them. I don’t see the social problems caused by single mothers that many on here talk about. And I don’t understand why it always seems to be their fault that they’re single mothers and should ther… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withFair enough. Guess I just think it depends on the individual circumstances and whether the woman and her kids might be worth his investment and going on to have kids of his own with her. Getting way ahead of myself though!! And probably too optimistically romantic :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withSorry, maybe I’m being dense, but I don’t quite get what you’re asking here? Just because a woman has kids doesn’t mean she’s looking for someone to be financially dependent on. From OPs other replies, it suggests she is financially independent and actually doesn’t want him involved with the kids (as of yet). I don’t see how this is a woman looking for a provider and trying to ensnare two men to pay for children? Or are you talking about a man having multiple wives, as many in Islam do? I don’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 03:32 PM |
| 4 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withThat’s basically what I said? Men don’t tend to get good advice from women because women’s advice comes from our perspective, which is less action oriented. I worded it a little clumsily maybe, but I meant exactly what you said. Men need instructional advice about how to change something and are unlikely to get that type of advice from women. What I don’t understand is why men here asking for advice at all (from anyone) are often treated like they are being babies and should know what to do and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 03:23 PM |
| 6 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withWell, I just don’t see why another man’s kids should stop someone being with a woman they really want to be with otherwise. How about if a woman is widowed? Or if the man took off with another woman and left her? How is it her fault or a mark on her character if she has kids and the father is not around? If the dad’s an asshole and present regularly, then I get the conflict is too much. If the woman is a mooching, manipulative bitch who is just looking for a new provider to screw over, then stay… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 08:02 AM |
| 1 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withOk, I get it. But couldn’t you have your own kids with her? Or is the dad still in the picture - that could get weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 05:55 AM |
| 2 | Is modern feminism as ubiquitous and damaging as some say it is? Why or why not?Yes, this seems to be the case. I’ve never encountered these women in the wild, but you can find them on the internet. It’s sort of like TRP, Incels and even us here on PPD, most people simply don’t think about this stuff so much, or align themselves to a particular group, let alone talk about it in public day to day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 05:09 AM |
| 4 | Advice — will seeing girls casually keep me from meeting someone I actually want a relationship withI think your female friends advice is not about trying to keep you out of the dating sphere or away from women. It’s about making sure you process how your mindset might be skewed after your bad breakup. Anyway, it probably is best to ignore it, because ime, men get over things better by doing more and women tend to get over things better by withdrawing for a bit. Your friends’ advice is coming from a good place, but it’s a female place, so likely not appropriate for you. I have no idea why the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 04:54 AM |
| 2 | CMV: “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” as justification for believing “AWALT” is a flawed analogy that encourages excessive cynicism and paranoiaYou see, I don’t subscribe to this pre-emptive, risk averse stuff. It seems kind of limp wristed. I mean, yeah, don’t pull a dogs ears - it’s just cruel and unnecessary - but it biting you shouldn’t really be the deterrent. It should be enough of a deterrent that you respect it’s right not to be harassed or abused because it’s another living being. Pulling a dogs ears probably won’t get you bitten anyway with most dogs. They’ll yelp and try to get away. Full on dog attacks are rare (like divorce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 04:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: “Treat all guns as if they are loaded” as justification for believing “AWALT” is a flawed analogy that encourages excessive cynicism and paranoiaI was about to make the same reply - we must both be members of the ‘Pit Bull Defense League’! Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/18 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Do we have an epidemic of loneliness in America? What is the relation to the pillsphere?In NZ? What’s happening that’s ‘terrifying’? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 06:32 AM |
| 1 | Do we have an epidemic of loneliness in America? What is the relation to the pillsphere?Yeah, I know what you mean about old people. They do tend to burn their bridges because they don’t want to put up with certain people anymore. They’ve run out of patience! I quite like old people, but when they get bitter and grumpy, man they are hard work. And many older people live so many more years now without work and often watching friends and family die around them - it would be hard not to get depressed and lonely in those circumstances. Living longer isn’t better if you have nothing to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/18 06:28 AM |
| 9 | Do we have an epidemic of loneliness in America? What is the relation to the pillsphere?I think there’s a lot of truth in this. I’m not a believer, but I see the solidarity and sense of belonging religious gatherings can bring and I think the decline of religion in most Western countries has left a void. People just don’t socialise the way they used to with family, friends, community, across generations and socio-economic divides... My grandmother derived a lot of comfort and companionship from her Catholic Church in her later years - she often met new people through it and always … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Do we have an epidemic of loneliness in America? What is the relation to the pillsphere?I think this highly individualistic culture is spreading and present in other Western countries too. It works for some, but so many are left behind feeling alone and disconnected. I know in New Zealand there is also a growing number of people reporting loneliness - older men especially, but younger people as well. We have the highest youth suicide rate in the developed world and I think that has plenty to do with people feeling alone, unloved and unloveable and that no one can help them because … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 08:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What is the Blue Pill explanation for women's fixation with male confidence?Yeah, they make me super uncomfortable and on edge - not something I want to be feeling if I can help it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 07:47 PM |
| 4 | Q4BP: What is the Blue Pill explanation for women's fixation with male confidence?So being confident is attractive in women - so long as it’s a feminine confidence? I think you’re quite correct about women being more able to just exist - it’s more acceptable for women to do that than men (though plenty of men just exist and react too). But most people expect women to create, do and achieve things nowadays. And didn’t women always do, build and create for her family? Women are usually the ones to hold things together, create and nurture the foundation and traditions of a famil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 05:47 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: What is the Blue Pill explanation for women's fixation with male confidence?Yeah, I pretty much agree. But what is ‘confidence’ in women then? And what is it in men? I thought it was being happy in oneself and comfortable sharing that with others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 05:32 PM |
| 2 | I’m A Strong, Single, Independent Woman And I’m SadI totally agree with all this! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 05:05 PM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?I can’t speak to your experiences, it’s not a demographic I’m at all familiar with, so I get that we’re coming from very different places. I think you’re right in many ways, but I hope the future can be a better balance than what we have now or what we had in the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 05:04 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: What is the Blue Pill explanation for women's fixation with male confidence?How are we defining confidence? Self assuredness? Healthy self esteem? Articulate with good social skills? Good conversationalist? Poised? Or are we talking: arrogance, assertiveness, conceit, brashness, cockiness, opinionated...? Do you really find it unattractive if women are any of the former? They could all be deemed as signs of confidence. I can understand the latter are less attractive in women but they’re not the only definition of confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 04:59 PM |
| 0 | Q4BP: What is the Blue Pill explanation for women's fixation with male confidence?How are you defining confidence? So many men seem to be attracted to confident women - but the women are confident in a different manner to men generally. But lots of men love ‘bitches’ too, and they usually exhibit more masculine type confidence... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 04:48 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP: What is the Blue Pill explanation for women's fixation with male confidence?How are you defining confidence? So many men seem to be attracted to confident women - but the women are confident in a different manner to men generally. But lots of men love ‘bitches’ too, and they usually exhibit more masculine type confidence... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 04:48 PM |
| 7 | Q4BP: What is the Blue Pill explanation for women's fixation with male confidence?I’m with you on this. Cockiness and arrogance are completely off putting to me. I don’t like to be around people like that - they project confidence, but there’s some whiff of insecurity and hollowness that undermines it and comes off as kind of sad. It’s not at all attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 04:41 PM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?There’s a part of me that would support them too...then I try to think about what I’d like the future to look like and it seems like it’s not compatible with going backwards like that. Idk, it’s confusing. I often feel I’m in the wrong era too...trapped between wanting to be what so many expect a modern woman to be and what I want to be in my uncomplicated instinctual brain... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 02:07 PM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?Idk, you were the one who bought up duplicitous means...I guess banning abortion, curbing access to contraceptives, ramping up slut-shaming, men being socially pressured to get married early to their high school sweetheart, banning divorce (except in extreme cases of abuse or infidelity), rolling back on gay rights (can’t have homosexuals having more freedom than half the human population), raising salaries for male dominated jobs so they make enough to support a wife and children...All of that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 01:23 PM |
| 1 | UMC womenI agree absolutely. It’s always been my answer when someone asks ‘what would you do if you won the lottery?’ It’s always helping out friends and family that are struggling - they work hard and they deserve it, but have never had a break or have had misfortunes. Of course I want things for myself too, but helping others who deserve it is very important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 12:35 PM |
| 1 | [q4m] Men do you think women will regret delaying or not choosing to have kids?I have rescue cats but I absolutely refuse to call them fur babies! The people that do certainly think of them as their children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 11:28 AM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?Why do you believe what you believe? It’s just that - a belief. It comes from inside me and is what I believe to be right. I got it from my parents, from my experiences, interactions and observations of others. I don’t like to hurt others because I know what it feels like when I am hurt myself. I want to be fair, because I know what it feels like to be slighted. I want to respect others, because I know what it’s like to be disrespected. Simple empathy. If some men want to get women back in the k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 11:26 AM |
| 2 | [q4m] Men do you think women will regret delaying or not choosing to have kids?Sure. I don’t say I’m childfree because I haven’t made up my mind on whether I want to remain without children or not. It seems to me that saying I’m childfree is a proclamation of intention to never have kids and I’m not comfortable saying that... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 07:03 AM |
| 3 | [q4m] Men do you think women will regret delaying or not choosing to have kids?I think some women I’ve met regret it - but often they haven’t had kids because they can’t. They pour their energy into other things and do a lot for their communities and lead fulfilling lives. Others have definitely replaced children with dogs/cats. I’m childless at 34, but am not against having kids if I find the right man. I would not want to be a single mum. I met a woman in her 40s who’d had artificial insemination to get pregnant and be a single mum and she seemed like a mixture of proud,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: List your "Same Sex" crush. Who do you idolize? Men, who's your "Man Crush"? Women, who's your "Woman Crush"?Overall for me it would be Maria Callas Beautiful, extraordinarily talented, complicated, conflicted and unapologetic. Her ability to communicate so much soul and emotion through a very rigid singing platform amazes me. Of modern women, I think Charlize Theron is beautiful, smart and funny. Melissa McCarthy seems like a genuinely kind person, as well as tickling my funny bone sometimes. Florence Welch is ethereal and there’s something magnetic about Tilda Swinton....Looks wise a woman I have a c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 05:09 AM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?I guess I fundamentally think people are good and want to do the right thing. This includes being fair minded. Why is it wrong to extrapolate a type of person to every person? Because it’s narrow minded and incorrect. It would be a step in the wrong direction because it’s counter productive. Forcing women to go back to being housewives against their will would require a dictatorship. I don’t see how that isn’t a step in the wrong direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/18 04:40 AM |
| 1 | Question for the men: Would you want this kind of woman?You’re most likely correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Question for the men: Would you want this kind of woman?Tell that to my mum. She fits this profile to a T. She is a rarity though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 05:04 PM |
| 1 | UMC womenYeah, Mrs Bucket was cringy. My grandma wasn’t that bad, but she had some of those airs - like she felt she should have married into a posh family, but didn’t. But she was going to make sure her kids all behaved like respectable children from a good family. That was all fine, but some of her attitudes were quite superior and stuffy. Yes, I agree about people who have worked their way up. Although sometimes they take on even worse attitudes to those they ‘left behind’ and can go overboard with th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 02:44 PM |
| 1 | UMC womenYeah, that sounds like my family for the most part. Struggling a bit to live the ‘good’ life (secondhand cars, local vacations, limited luxuries), but not struggling to pay basic bills, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 02:35 PM |
| 1 | UMC womenIs there like a lower middle class? Idk, in NZ I didn’t grow up experiencing much in the way of class differences. In the UAE they’re very obvious with most expats in the UMC grouping and they’re generally exactly as you described - boring and spoilt. My parents have Uni degrees (mother MBA) but they’re not in the least bit snobbish. Dad came from a just-above working class family (they lived in a council house but his dad was a clockmaker, partially disabled after WWII) and mum from a dairy far… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 12:44 PM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?I think you’re right that women can have entitled expectations about many things these days and that they’re not so forgiving. It can seem very easy as a young woman (especially a reasonably attractive one) to move on to the next man if the first one disappoints on any level. Men usually don’t say to women ‘I’ll buy you dinner but I expect a romp out of it’. It used to be that men knew that was unlikely (and wouldn’t respect a woman who gave it up on the first date) but also knew they needed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 12:08 PM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?That’s funny because I think some men get too hung up on tallying things. You scratch my back I’ll scratch yours type of thing. Many men here want it to be very transactional and fair - I give my wife gifts, she should give me more sex, etc. I do like for things to be as fair as possible but of course I know life doesn’t work that way. It’s inherently unfair. When I talk about being egalitarian I mean it as trying to give people equal basic respect and opportunities and believing in their right … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 05:50 AM |
| 2 | How common do you think Botox and fillers are? Do you think they will impact the SMP?Yes! I’m thankful for my oily teenage skin too. I’m 34 now and it’s still kind of oily but I’m sure it’s helped me look younger for a long while now. And long may it continue!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 03:13 AM |
| 2 | How common do you think Botox and fillers are? Do you think they will impact the SMP?I’m pretty lucky that I get Botox on insurance for treatment-resistant chronic migraines - it’s only a small amount in the forehead (32 injections all together, but only 5 where you’d see it in the forehead). It has definitely improved my frown lines - they were mild, but I was developing that dreaded line in between the brows (my mum always looks upset because of it). I hated that that was my first wrinkle at 31 - no crows feet, just a faint line that made me look like I’d been annoyed or confu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 03:11 AM |
| 1 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?Interesting. As I said, I do get the objective grossness of putting genitals in your mouth! I think it seems unfair to me to expect someone to give you oral when you absolutely won’t reciprocate, but if it’s just a no-go area entirely then fair enough. And yeah, it can seem like a childish oral fixation to want to suck something - but that would sort of go with sucking nipples even more! Human sexuality is weird... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/18 02:52 AM |
| 2 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?I wasn’t trying reverse psychology. Just trying to understand the reasoning. If you find the idea of oral gross, then fine, totally ok to have an aversion to something. I mean, yeah, objectively it is gross but I think it seems less so when you’re really aroused by someone... Does that mean you wouldn’t want a blowjob either? Anyway, I honestly didn’t mean to play games. It’s entirely up to you what you do with your mouth - just wanted to understand what made you so sure you wouldn’t do it with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/18 06:58 PM |
| 3 | [Q4M] [NSFW] Men do you eat out girls why or why not?So, even if you get your dream wife: beautiful, non-feminist, submissive, mach_like_a_flame worshipping virgin you wouldn’t want to please her in bed? I get why you wouldn’t do it to a woman casually, but a devoted, loving wife? What does it take away from you and how about if you really wanted to do it? If you loved the way she smelled and felt and just really wanted to dive in - you’d deny yourself? Why? It just seems really manly to me for a man to want to eat pussy. Just an animal attraction… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/18 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)Totally agree. A vasectomy is certainly a much simpler and less expensive procedure than the equivalent for women. I think it’s always fair to ask if a procedure is available. But as you say, expecting it and then writing an article about how unfair it is that you’ve been refused is just petty. Means testing makes sense to me too. We do favour child-bearers a lot, when it is a lifestyle choice and needs to be thought through independently. So many people have kids without really planning for it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/18 09:06 AM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)It’s got a lot to do with options. If you have a mental illness you need treatment - it affects every aspect of your life and can drastically reduce the quality of your life (if not end it all together). It stunts your ability to contribute to society and can make you a state burden in many, many ways (crime, substance abuse, suicide attempts, self harm, etc). You can’t go private unless you are pretty wealthy - which is meant to be the point of public health, giving necessary health care to eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/18 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)The doctor friend I told you about believes this. She feels a little conflicted because she knows the pain of not being able to have kids (hysterectomy at 34 due to severe endometriosis) but she doesn’t think the burden of infertility treatment should be on the taxpayer. Sort of like gastric bypass shouldn’t be... Sorry to disappoint re: Nutella! Haha! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/18 04:05 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?I’m actually in the UAE (from NZ, but work here) and the weather is horrible. Sandstorms today and 102°F - I wish I was going into a NZ winter (they’re mild). I appreciate your courtesy even though we have very different perspectives. Have a wonderful summer!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Weekly Community Chat Megathread (13 May 2018)Oh, I’m so sorry, that must be very stressful. I hope further tests can be done ASAP and you get the all clear soon. It’s terrible having to wait on results and further testing. My mum needs a second dilation and curettage (first one failed to obtain proper sample) to get a uterine polyp biopsy to rule out cancer. It’s been months because the insurance company are just awful. I feel for you. Stay strong and positive 😙 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?I wouldn’t want to see this type of marriage be commonplace. It’s just too transactional and robotic to me. If certain people want it framed that way, then I guess a prenup would do it. How many people go into marriage with a specific timeline for kids and how many? There are so many reasons why people might change their minds on kids. How about if the man decides he doesn’t want any more - what rights does the woman have then? How about if the first pregnancy resulted in postpartum depression o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:08 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)Meh, receding hairlines don’t really bother me, as long as he doesn’t look like a slob. Just the way it goes for some guys and there are hair cuts that improve the look of it. How old are you? If you’re under 22 I’d say it’s natural to think men 6+ years older look ‘aged’ compared to your own age group. But I kind of know what you mean. I’m 34 (a young looking one - I get carded sometimes!) and I am sometimes shocked when a man says he’s my age or even a bit younger but he looks so much older th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 10:20 AM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)I am white yes. I don’t consider myself biased. I think some people age better than others - race has a little to do with it as lighter skin tones damage easier in the elements. But there’s more to aging well than wrinkles, etc. I just hadn’t heard anyone suggest that white women are ugly after 30. Seems extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)I am white yes. I don’t consider myself biased. I think some people age better than others - race has a little to do with it as lighter skin tones damage easier in the elements. But there’s more to aging well than wrinkles, etc. I just hadn’t heard anyone suggest that white women are ugly after 30. Seems extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 10:12 AM |
| 0 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?Ok. We just have extremely different views on people’s motivations it seems. I don’t think arguing is going to bridge the divide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)See, I actually do like roasted almonds with chocolate sometimes...sorry! Though I tend to prefer non-nutty chocolate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:50 AM |
| 4 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)Yes it is. Most vegans wouldn’t do these things either. I am guilty of killing flies if I can’t shoo them out the window. I have cats to deal with vermin - some of them will even take care of cockroaches, flies and spiders! I just trap and release. I don’t buy new leather, but still use what I already have. But yeah, it’s an infinite moral spiral if you keep going - plants are alive, we breathe in and kill many microbes...you have to draw a line somewhere or even being a ‘Breatharian’ is inconsi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:48 AM |
| 3 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)I agree with this and worked this out when I was 5 - I basically never ate meat after realizing this (except for the occasional bacon-related slip up until I was 20!). But it took me longer to figure out this also applied to fish, dairy and eggs - so I slowly became more and more vegan. I’m not perfect at it, but 95% of my diet now is entirely vegan. It’s had a lot of benefits and I no longer feel like a hypocrite when I say I love animals. It must be so hard for people who grew up eating meat t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:42 AM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)So white women are ugly at 30? I don’t see that at all... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:17 AM |
| 8 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)I think so many men look good well into their 40s and early 50s - the good looking ones who take care of their bodies. More common than women who still look good at that age. Most white people still look good at 30, imo. It’s more like 40 where I see a sharp decline in most. Some people just age so prematurely - and others rather late. I agree about female incels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 06:14 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?Ok, good. Some people think unmarried mother = single mother and that single mother = the worst member of society. I maybe misinterpreted your ‘liberating women from single motherhood’. How can you be a single mother and be married? Are you saying that men shouldn’t have to pay child support for their children because a woman would have had children anyway and she’s benefited from a few years of his financial support during marriage and that’s something to be grateful for? Do you then disagree w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)Yeah, I knew that actually. Lots of other people don’t though! 😉 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)Oh wow! I’ve never known anyone else who didn’t like this combo :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/18 04:10 AM |
| 3 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)Yes, I agree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?It’s not going to put you in good standing with your spouse if you won’t put them on the title deed. It means that if you die before them (before you divorce them!) then they have to go through a lot of hoops to have a house that could have been their home for 30 years...Are you basically going into marriage expecting to divorce? Why get married at all if you’re so pessimistic? Single mothers have it hard, but it’s not like it could never be the fault of a man that she is a single mother. If we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 08:58 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)I love peanut butter so much! But not with chocolate - so I’d give you half an upvote if I could :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 08:50 PM |
| 4 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)Cilantro ruins every food it touches - and don’t mix chocolate with hazelnuts. From high quality gianduja to mass produced Nutella it’s a sickening combo (and this coming from someone with blood relatives in Italy who worship it.) Everyone should have pets as children (unless they’re allergic) to teach them compassion and responsibility. I think it would make better people. Social healthcare systems should not be paying for elective, extremely expensive and often ineffective IVF when they spend … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 08:45 PM |
| 2 | Off-Topic Discussion of the Week: Unpopular Opinons (12 May 2018)I’ve seen many Lambos, never a purple one - very nice! Agree on the drugs - but you know Xanax trumps clonazepam for me! Capitalism isn’t a good thing in it’s current form, but there’s nothing better on offer... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 08:32 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?Alimony is not part of the institution of marriage in most of the world - and even most U.S. states. [It’s rare] (http://time.com/money/4116161/alimony-reform-spousal-support/ It says it was awarded in about 25% of divorces in the 1960s but is now at 10% or below. In my home country of New Zealand it makes headlines if alimony is awarded - and even then it’s only awarded for 6 months to give the career-stunted spouse time to sort things out. The fact that anyone would have to pay lifelong spousa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 08:25 PM |
| 4 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?Who is arguing that simply being married (without kids) affects a woman’s earning power? I don’t believe I’ve heard that, so I can’t find stats to back it up. I can imagine it in the very wealthy because women might give up work, with their husbands blessing, as their income isn’t necessary and they didn’t have a career going anyway... Mostly it’s about women with children within the marriage earning less and having less earning potential because childcare and domestic duties tend to fall more t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: Is there a proof that marriage cripples women's career more than men's?Yes, this makes sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 05:29 PM |
| 1 | What is the rules for Divorce where...updated?Good to know. Their fear of it just seems massively out of proportion to the reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 05:23 PM |
| 2 | What is the rules for Divorce where...updated?Thanks for explaining this. I’ve wondered what all this ‘divorce rape’ moaning is about because where I’m from (New Zealand) alimony (or spousal support as it’s known) is rare and only awarded by the court in exceptional cases. They make headlines because they’re so unusual. By the way many here and on TRP tell it, I thought it was standard in the US for men to be ‘divorce raped’! Glad to hear it isn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 04:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Celebrity Crush May 2018 Edition!Don’t look fake to me! NSFW They fluctuate a lot with her weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Is it better have loved and lost than to never have loved at all?I think it depends how hard you take grief and heart break and how positive your outlook is. The end of a relationship is almost like a death in many ways. It takes a process of grieving to get over and is very hard. I liken it to having a beloved pet. Anyone who’s had pets knows they die too soon and you go through a time after where you don’t want another one because you know the inevitable heartbreak. But the joy of the experience with them and what they give you in the moment for however man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Is it better have loved and lost than to never have loved at all?I think this is a very balanced answer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 01:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Celebrity Crush May 2018 Edition!I think you’d appreciate Kelly Brook then she’s my body inspiration for sure. A+ taste in the female form! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 01:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Celebrity Crush May 2018 Edition!I find 100% volcanic alum crystal works well - but like the pure crystal, not those stick things, they give me a rash. I live in a very hot country and sweat a lot, but they work for me. That and I don’t smell much at all with no deo since I went vegan, weirdly... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 01:25 PM |
| 11 | Q4PP: Why do women nag?This will be a pretty ‘feminist’ response to some here - but it comes from my experience and observations, not some kind of man-bashing agenda. I’ve known men who nag a lot - they just only nag about what’s important to them. i.e. cleaning something they use a lot, wanting you to watch something they love, sex, socializing with their friends/colleagues etc...Women nag about what’s important to them and what’s important to someone else. In OPs example her mother nags her dad about his diet becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/18 05:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Oh wow! Awesome - yes, a good listener is very attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Haha! Oh well, you can’t have ‘em all! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Ooh, Jason Isaacs - yes!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!I love Paul Bettany! Good picks - there is something about Martin Freeman... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 04:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Ted Bundy could kind of look like so many men - so creepy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 04:08 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Yeah, James McAvoy has that cheeky charm but with an edge - he’s very magnetic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Ooh - history crushes! Totally with you on von Stauffenberg. You can add Manfred von Richthofen for me. And Nikola Tesla | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 04:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!I went to a cafe in London where the waiter looked so much like him - he was Irish too - and he was really lovely and flirty, so I had a good experience with a Cillian lookalike. Sorry he was ruined for you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 03:57 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Oh yes - it must be so amazingly eclectic! I hope so anyway - maybe it’s all basic IKEA just to mess with people! 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Thank you! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!I get it. He does have that vibe. And I totally agree about Tilda Swinton - not quite of this world! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 03:53 PM |
| 1 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?If I ever get my hands on Soma again I’ll try to find a way to get some to you! Some old fashioned, pill pushing doctor here might prescribe it and I’ll have to search 20 pharmacies to get it, but it would be worth it. I haven’t asked for it for a couple of years because my rheumatologist hasn’t even heard of it and it wasn’t on their pharmacy system...I used to get it for back pain from an orthopedic specialist... I’ve had people tell me to train as a pharmacist too! I would be able to resist t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 03:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!He is! And I love his voice too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:52 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Haha, yes. I get that. You could be both maybe... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:51 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Celebrity Crush Thread May 2018 Edition!Taika Waititi - he’s from my home country, he’s incredibly funny, smart and inspiring. And pretty handsome to boot. Mountaineer Don Bowie - handsome, elite athlete who is very inspirational. I’ve long had a thing for Jack White - just something about that man. I’m not even a huge fan of his music... Lee Pace, Cillian Murphy, Ben Barnes, Sebastian Stan...Yeah, lots of celeb men I find attractive but they’re very different from one another really.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/18 01:02 PM |
| 1 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?I don’t know the details in NZ of a centralised or just local register. In the UK I did by ibuprofen with codeine otc and they just asked me what for and told me not to take it for more than three days at a stretch. Woah, you must be feeling good! I’ve never really ‘done’ drugs in the sense of purely recreationally, but some of them certainly give you a good high. Soma was one for sure - I’d take it before bed and I’d be quite chilled and happy for 30 minutes, then fall asleep for 7-8 hours with… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/18 04:13 PM |
| 5 | Who exactly ARE all the vile male commenters on women's bodies online, and what is their deal?Being proud of revenge-inspired criticisms of strangers online is a strange and sad thing, not to mention being proud of contributing to low self esteem in others...How is it sticking up for men to be hyper critical of Mila Kunis’s ass? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 07:18 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] why doesn’t the fat guy get any love?Oh, I agree. I’m overweight but I’m not into celebrating or accepting it. It is what it is and I have lost a lot and continue to struggle with it. I don’t like it being such a boner killer for some men or something they simply say is incompatible with being attractive overall, but I can’t change the way those guys feel. Being fat isn’t a reason to celebrate and fat peoples should try to be healthier for their own health and happiness. But I’m certainly dead against fat shaming and lookism - so i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 03:40 PM |
| 3 | [Q4W] why doesn’t the fat guy get any love?Men are more likely to have fetishes full stop though, right? I don’t think it’s directly comparable given the differences in male and female sexuality. From what I know of women, we’re more likely to have a preference for personality type or job title than weight or physical features. But yeah, I highly doubt there are many women who specifically seek out obese men in the way quite a few men seek out obese women. I think there is more diversity in female body shape than in men too, so that goes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 03:26 PM |
| 1 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?I was house sitting in the UK last year and getting ibuprofen with codeine was great for period pain - lifesaver really. Panadol and ibuprofen alone just isn’t strong enough. In NZ it’s otc too, but you have to give your name and address - I guess they can then check if you’re buying it too often? I house sat for a couple in South Shields who had piles of tramadol, co-dydramol (boy that was effective) and codeine from hip replacements! When I told hem about me and my mum having bad joint pain an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 03:13 PM |
| 1 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?Yes, I remember the degree ≠ intelligence discussion! I think a lot of doctors are just good at memorizing and passing exams - critical, independent and investigative thinking is not their strong suit. I’ve known a few doctors who smoke heavily, take every med out there whenever they have the slightest cold and just lord it over others by saying ‘I’m a doctor’. They care more about the cachet of being a doctor than about actually being a doctor... I have a friend in England who is a GP and she i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 11:20 AM |
| 5 | [Q4W] why doesn’t the fat guy get any love?Fat women started fat acceptance to make themselves feel like they could still be attractive and fat. It should really be called the ‘female fat acceptance movement’ I guess. So, if men want fat acceptance, they can start publicly talking about it. Although, being fat as a man is not the same as being fat as a woman. Women are judged more on their looks/weight than men. We all know that many men will have sex with fat women out of desperation or because there’s an assumption that fat women are e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 10:40 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] why doesn’t the fat guy get any love?So when you say fat women you really mean fat women! Saying ‘fat women’ conjures up different sizes in everyone’s mind it seems. Above we have someone saying BMI of 24 (140lbs at the average 5’4”) is fat and then you saying a BMI of over 50...it’s interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 10:06 AM |
| 1 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?Yes, the doc who gives me Xanax is a keeper. He’s the laziest doc I’ve come across in terms of investigations into my chronic joint problems, but he’s free and easy with drugs! :) they’re not the most careful with meds here. I’ve had Botox for treatment resistant migraines and they give me the vials to take home and then take to my neurologist! They cost like £200 a vial (my insurance accepts it, thank goodness) and I get four of them - there must be people who’d sell them or try to inject thems… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/18 09:29 AM |
| 3 | Should or shouldn’t women’s breasts/nipples be sexualised?Uh, this is interesting. I live in a Muslim country (albeit a pretty liberal, Western-loving one) and women often breastfeed in public here. They do it discreetly, but they are obviously breastfeeding in cafes and malls. No one minds, even conservative Muslim men and women. I’ve seen women breastfeeding publicly in several countries and I’ve never seen a nipple - about as much boob as many women expose in their clothing choices, but no nipple. Personally, it wouldn’t greatly bother me if I did b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 05:01 PM |
| 3 | Should or shouldn’t women’s breasts/nipples be sexualised?I completely agree. In several parts of Europe on a warm sunny day you will see some women (a minority) sunbathing or otherwise relaxing topless in the park or at the beach, lake or river. No one cares. Now, walking around doing your shopping topless would certainly be weird to me and it would make me uncomfortable. But seeing boobs in the park or at the beach shouldn’t be a big deal. Men are free to ogle, the women who choose to free their nipples need to accept that. And yeah, I don’t think it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 04:49 PM |
| 1 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?I tried 5 HTP and it made me feel really sick too! I love how some people are all anti Psych meds but think the ‘natural’ ones are fine - as if they’re not also psychoactive chemicals but less well researched...I also tried St John’s Wort - which didn’t do anything. Xanax has been such a wonderful drug for me, but my psychiatrist doesn’t want me on it and won’t prescribe it because it’s ‘addictive’ but is fine with throwing SNRIs at me, and switching me off them to an atypical without talking ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/18 01:57 PM |
| 7 | QForBP: How many of you are actually feministsYes, this is me too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 04:16 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.There are several examples in that thread of positive masculine traits and positive male role models. I guess I don’t really know what you’re asking for? No criticism of traditional masculinity or traits? Positivity about every aspect traditionally associated with masculinity? I’ve cited a few posts and articles in our conversation and you’ve rejected them all without really explaining what you’re expecting to see about positive masculinity. I agree that gender identity is strong. Women are more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/18 04:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most female dating advice for men is useless because women experience lust in the moment, in specific scenarios.Lol, yeah | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 04:46 PM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.What do you think of this discussion? The main thrust of many feminists now is avoiding gender traits and associations all together. No talk of femininity or masculinity - just humanity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 12:26 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Most female dating advice for men is useless because women experience lust in the moment, in specific scenarios.Really? How come I know women married to guys who are polite and do things for them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 11:17 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Ok, feminism has quite a spectrum. It’s not a single, cohesive movement where everyone agrees on everything. I find that I am often treated with ‘chivalry’ and generally I like it. Of course I do because it’s nice to be given deference and an easier time of it in some regard. I don’t think it needs to die - it’s harmless and I don’t view it as misogyny or whatever. It’s old fashioned courtesy and is probably on the way out anyway. I’ve been living in the Middle East for many years and obviously … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 10:39 AM |
| 1 | Is humor sexy? How important is humor? And is Craig Ferguson a serious/useful model for male banter/charisma/attractiveness?Woah - number 6 is frightening! Yuck! Yes, that definition you pointed out is probably it. Still a weird thing to laugh so much about. Reminds me of girls getting the giggles over nothing - it’s a stretch to take ‘headshots’ as sexual really (unless you’re 12...) It just shows she had sex on the brain :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 08:01 AM |
| 2 | Is humor sexy? How important is humor? And is Craig Ferguson a serious/useful model for male banter/charisma/attractiveness?You know what? Idk either really! Haha. I think she’s connecting head shots with giving or getting head or something - you know, dirty mind from being so flustered by Sebastian! That’s why I thought he might be in with a shot with her - she’s reacting A LOT to him, touching him, etc. He’s not being particularly suggestive about anything - but he’s forward while still being respectful of her space and when she reciprocates and flirts even more, he goes a little further but also gets quite shy (wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 07:02 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Most female dating advice for men is useless because women experience lust in the moment, in specific scenarios.I agree for the most part. Our experience of attraction is complex and when we try to explain it to men, they seem to find it unbelievable and conclude we are either lying or don’t know what we want. The latter can be true - sometimes we don’t know what we want until we experience it. It makes it hard to break down into useful advice of what men should and shouldn’t do... But often we do know what we want, but it’s something that men don’t accept because it’s not a simple fix. That’s how advice … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 05:02 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Most female dating advice for men is useless because women experience lust in the moment, in specific scenarios.Some women do?... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 04:16 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Most female dating advice for men is useless because women experience lust in the moment, in specific scenarios.Yes. This is my experience too. People are very quick to give advice, but unless they know the very specific details of your particular problem, it’s often not very good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 04:15 AM |
| 2 | Is humor sexy? How important is humor? And is Craig Ferguson a serious/useful model for male banter/charisma/attractiveness?Personally I find humour very sexy. I have had crushes on comedians for ages who are not handsome or hot - but they are so biting and funny that they get to me anyway. Certain kinds of humour show intelligence and anyone who is telling jokes and making people laugh comes across as confident and charismatic. Craig Ferguson doesn’t do it for me, but that’s not my kind of humour. I’m wary of looking at talk shows as good examples of banter in general - sometimes it’s very genuine and off the cuff, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/18 04:12 AM |
| 5 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?How about the second comment? You want an explicit list of sexually attractive features? Women are giving it - but it’s so different from men’s that it seems some guys can’t hear it and conclude we are prudish or don’t know what we want. It’s about chemistry, energy, engagement, etc - it can change depending on the time of the month and what mood we’re in. It simply isn’t comparable to the way many men experience attraction in much more simple terms. Most men either find a woman physically attra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 05:49 PM |
| 2 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?Here you go and another- don’t know why you can’t find them yourself. Read through the comments and look for what women say they are attracted to. I can’t see prudishness. The search results for ‘attraction’ on PPD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 02:40 PM |
| 6 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?We’ve explained it many times but it’s rarely accepted...Search ‘attraction’ on PPD and you’ll find lots of posts about female attraction and arousal with lots of females explaining how it works for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 01:30 PM |
| 3 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?I’ve just been diagnosed with ADHD - at 34! I’ve spent years being diagnosed as having generalized anxiety and major depression (treatment resistant) with no doctors even considering anything but these diagnoses until I brought it up after searching online and also talking with Mr /u/MercedesBenzoAMG here :) I’m on ADHD meds now and feel considerably better than I ever did on ADs. I considered BPD as a self diagnosis myself, but didn’t resonate at all with the anger/antisocial issues, extreme im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 12:38 PM |
| 1 | If an attractive woman told potential partners that she has BPD, what percentage do you think would stay?I’ve just been diagnosed with ADHD - at 34! I’ve spent years being diagnosed as having generalized anxiety and major depression (treatment resistant) with no doctors even considering anything but these diagnoses until I brought it up after searching online and also talking with Mr /u/MercedesBenzoAMG here :) I’m on ADHD meds now and feel considerably better than I ever did on ADs. I considered BPD as a self diagnosis myself, but didn’t resonate at all with the anger/antisocial issues, extreme im… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 12:37 PM |
| 1 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?You may well be right. It’s a very interesting debate - nature vs nurture. I think men are definitely discouraged from being ‘feely’ about what they get from their gfs - talking about how hot she is is encouraged, about how supportive or successful she is, not so much. And yes, women focusing on the way a man looks is shamed to some degree as showing herself as being ‘too’ sexual. I’ve heard some on here talk about how men’s status and behavior is viscerally arousing - how it can transcend his p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 09:54 AM |
| 2 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?Online men certainly seem to care more about looks than women - because it’s more what turns them on (we know from studies men tend to be more visually stimulated than women). The men I know talk more about women’s looks as a factor in their attractiveness than women talk about men’s...For women looks can be arousing, but so can status and behavior. I don’t think this is so much the case for men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 09:03 AM |
| 1 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?Women are generally more shallow about status - money, power, standing amongst peers, etc. Men are generally more shallow about looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 08:22 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Ok, but a feminist website isn’t really concerned with masculinity. They’re concerned with women’s issues. They’re likely to have female-centric narratives and content. Even so, they have articles (from a quick browse of feministing - website I’ve never been on before) about trans men and they are obviously trying to be more masculine - which is viewed positively...I found links to the Fatherhood Project which celebrates black men and their relationships with their children through photography. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 08:21 AM |
| 3 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?This is very true. I still think we tend to be shallow in different ways - one is not more shallow than the other, but men are often portrayed as the more shallow. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 08:08 AM |
| 1 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?Yes, women do that sometimes - playing the innocent to get out of responsibilities. It’s not ok. But I was weirdly raised to be both publicly stoic and tough but also passive, pandering to others (men especially) and sensitive. It’s a weird dichotomy and I think quite a few women grew up with this mix of toughness and an expectation of putting the needs and wants of others ahead of our own. It’s made it hard for me to have clearly defined boundaries between what I really want and my desire to pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 08:00 AM |
| 3 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?Some are. I haven’t known any personally, but I have heard of men marrying a woman who has a child from a previous relationship and then they go on to have children together. That first child is not made to feel like he/she is not as important to the father as his biological children - though maybe in his mind they are. It’s like people who adopt, when it comes down to it. Adopted children are not biologically yours but hopefully they are loved and treated just the same as if they were. Men are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:46 AM |
| 3 | Challenge for RP: Can you post an article about "toxic masculinity" that supports the claim that it's just an attack on men?Very good insight. I think you’re right. Women are often very defensive about labels too because we have insecurities about our value. This has changed markedly with the rise of mainstream feminism though...We certainly need to stop making men feel marginalized (and obviously many men do, which is deeply troubling and unacceptable), but correctly using the term toxic masculinity should not be taken as a shaming tactic, because it is not intended that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:43 AM |
| 9 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?Men misunderstand the way attraction works for women, judging by many comments around here. They seem to believe it works the same as it does for men, which I think is generally not the case. Women misunderstand men’s difficulty in approaching and initiating romantic relationships and/or sex. We see it too much from our perspective at times where it is relatively easy. We misunderstand how much men genuinely want to be desired - as much as women do. I also think both men and women view men as mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:39 AM |
| 7 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?Agreed with all of this. I don’t get the stereotype of women being fragile. Logically it doesn’t make much sense and also in my experience, men are as emotionally fragile (if not more so than women in many cases I know of) they are just less expressive of those emotions and that seems stronger. I would say that I also talk more openly when I’m not face to face - it’s just less confronting. I was raised to be very stoic in public or with people not in my close family circle, which I think is some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 06:28 AM |
| 2 | What do men misunderstand about women the most? What do women misunderstand about men the most?I think women understand this. But they can’t always help it...and many men seem to still date and marry these women anyway. Good men who love the woman will take care of another man’s child as if it were his own - and many do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 05:46 AM |
| 3 | Challenge for RP: Can you post an article about "toxic masculinity" that supports the claim that it's just an attack on men?I’ve been talking with guys on other posts about this and I still don’t get it. It’s very hard to understand why so many men here fail to notice the difference between toxic masculinity and masculinity. I’m not at all offended by the term toxic femininity - I think there are aspects of femininity that are toxic (different from the male version, but still harmful). I don’t take it to be misogynistic. I’ve read through these articles and I can’t find one that truly criticizes all masculinity...It … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Challenge for RP: Can you post an article about "toxic masculinity" that supports the claim that it's just an attack on men?Being in it all for yourself discredits you from these discussions entirely. If you don’t care about anyone or anything but you, why does your opinion on wider society or buzzwords or whatever even matter? Why communicate with others if you don’t care? Oh right, you’re a psychopath only interested in others if it suits your own ends. Gotcha. How many others like you do you think are out there? I get really creeped out by this kind of attitude. I have an uncle like this and he’s currently tearing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 04:56 AM |
| 2 | Is it wrong to be with someone you're not attracted to?If you find them attractive on other levels, then there’s nothing wrong with that - so long as you can and do share physical intimacy, as that’s an important part of a relationship. If you can’t be aroused by them physically, then that’s a problem - but physical looks aren’t the only thing that can be arousing for most people. But I think being told by someone I’m with that I’m not attractive to them but they’re with me anyway would be very upsetting. I’d hope there’s at least some aspect that i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 04:07 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Can you give me websites to look at for this? I just don’t see overall masculinity painted as negative in the mainstream. Aspects of it for sure, but all masculinity? I just don’t see it. There are many examples of positive masculinity and the admiration of it in the mainstream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/18 03:57 AM |
| 1 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Point is, if I’m reading particularly feminist oriented media wouldn’t I come across more misuse of the term ‘toxic masculinity’? It just doesn’t seem to be a term that is used widely IRL and then online I’ve only really read it used in textbook examples... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 06:49 PM |
| 2 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Isn’t how I understand it basically the textbook definition? I haven’t seen examples of it being used to describe anything but this...I don’t read/listen to particularly feminist media as a general rule though, so maybe I’m missing the misapplication of the term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 05:50 PM |
| 0 | An attempt to explain why I don't think the term 'toxic masculinity' is offensive to men.Yes, this is how I have always understood the term ‘toxic masculinity’. It’s not a derogatory term for masculinity, but the aspects of masculinity that are harmful to men and wider society in general. As you say, the main use of it is in regards to many men suppressing emotions that then are (almost inevitably) expressed in damaging ways both for himself and others. This suppression of emotion is often done in the belief that being open emotionally is ‘girly’ - one of the worst slurs in many a m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/18 03:47 PM |
| 1 | is it bad or immoral if at 23...I have a lot of trouble with this. To me, if you love someone, you stick with them until they really give you no sign of hope that they will pull through. Someone giving up their career could be because they want to pursue what makes them really happy - that would be something I would want to support. If they give it up to do nothing - to make an attempt here and there by basically just mooch off you...then obviously that’s different and you’d lose love for them over time. I wouldn’t lose my lov… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/18 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?Yes, I was generalizing. Certainly I think it comes down to certain circumstances. I just think it’s incorrect when many around here categorize women as fragile and emotional over all and men as stoic and tough - it’s just not the reality as I see and experience it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/18 06:09 AM |
| 12 | Would women live better if men treated them like men?This exactly. Women are extremely tough actually (sometimes I think psychologically tougher than men), most of us just aren’t forced to be in the same way men are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/18 09:09 AM |
| 1 | There is no grand conspiracy. CMV.I know, imagine that!! Lol. I haven’t been to Uni - and the number of people I’ve had very intellectual and thought provoking conversations with who are really astonished at that makes me chuckle. I’ve even had people talk like OP in front of me assuming I’m a graduate only to have their jaws drop and cheeks redden when I say I barely scraped through high school. Hated it and am not an ‘ordered’ learner - but I’m far from dumb. And yeah, I have a friend with an MSc in Psychology who worked as a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/18 06:13 PM |
| 7 | There is no grand conspiracy. CMV.Really? Wow! That’s very closed minded. You can be well educated but not well schooled. Some of the stupidest people I’ve ever met have a degree and some of the smartest don’t...It really isn’t black and white. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/18 01:56 PM |
| 1 | There is no grand conspiracy. CMV.A few men (50+ usually) offer me their seats when things are crowded on a train or a waiting room. I’m not disabled, I don’t look pregnant - but they think they’re being chivalrous. It’s a nice sentiment in their eyes, but it’s also condescending like I’m inherently fragile because I’m female and can’t stand and wait like anyone else. It’s hard to know exactly how to feel as I know it’s not coming from a real place of disrespect for women. It’s just an outdated practice. As for holding doors ope… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/18 01:53 PM |
| 3 | Toronto Man pledges allegiance to Incel rebellion and kills 10 people in terrorist attackThis is not true. A) there were women who escaped Ted Bundy or refused to help him. He asked many women to help him and only some agreed. It was not just that he was good looking, it was also that he pretended to be hampered in some way by an injury and needed help. That was what made him seem vulnerable and therefore non-threatening to his victims. His good, clean cut looks helped him for sure, but the main thing was his seeming need for help. If you see a ‘normal’ looking man (well dressed, cl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/18 05:10 AM |
| 4 | Toronto Man pledges allegiance to Incel rebellion and kills 10 people in terrorist attackUmm...listen, I might not even be able to tell what could be ‘off’ about you over Skype...it could be so many things that only actually being face to face would show. Even then, there might be nothing ‘off’ to me, but maybe to other women there’s something. This is what I mean - it’s hard to describe and I don’t think there’s some fix that can be simply applied. Best thing you can do is work on making yourself well rounded and happy in other ways. And get out and socialize. I know it’s hard enou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Toronto Man pledges allegiance to Incel rebellion and kills 10 people in terrorist attackYou could well be right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 07:12 PM |
| 3 | Sex/companion bots for both sexes would actually improve relations between men and women, and improve society in general.Yes, I agree. It would be sad if it got so bad this was reality for most people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 04:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why exactly do women tend to like you more when you tease them and playfully "neg" them?Flirting is basically about this - being light hearted and fun with someone. But it can easily go too far - especially if it seems rehearsed. Being tall is usually a plus for a guy so drawing attention to that and being confident in it is good. I also think women are not generally insecure about their height - unless they’re really tiny. It’s often played in a positive way to be a short girl - plenty of men like it. It’s not insulting if it’s not something you feel is actually a negative. Pickin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 10:33 AM |
| 8 | Sex/companion bots for both sexes would actually improve relations between men and women, and improve society in general.Logically, this all makes sense to me. But, it’s still creepy and pretty sad if that’s what we have to come down to to get harmony and decency between the sexes. I’m fine with a vibrator (or pocket pussy) but an actual human looking bot that is basically a slave and has nothing to say or do that isn’t explicitly programmed...no thanks. It’s just too humanly... inhuman... I could imagine maybe experimenting with it once - but living with it? I can’t imagine liking it. Did you ever see that Spielb… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 10:15 AM |
| 3 | Sex/companion bots for both sexes would actually improve relations between men and women, and improve society in general.I hate those things!! But, yeah, many women seem to love them! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 10:06 AM |
| 7 | Toronto Man pledges allegiance to Incel rebellion and kills 10 people in terrorist attackLooks have nothing to do with it for this guy. He looks fine. But if he was capable of flipping out and killing 10 people, there was something wrong with his mental health. People pick up on that - often without being fully conscious of it, especially women, who are better at reading between the lines and body language in general. Looks have, imo, not nearly as much to do with a man’s attractiveness as many TRPers insist. But getting physically fitter doesn’t just improve body condition, it impr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/18 10:02 AM |
| 1 | Men vs Women: Frugality/Thriftyness/"Cheapskate"I’m pretty bad with finances because I was never taught otherwise. My dad is an artist and just worked now and then when I was growing up - he looked after me mostly and my mum had a career in the tax department and later as a lecturer. She always earned a lot more than my dad and never had tight reigns over his (and later my) spending. She gave into us over pretty much everything. She was also never good at saving herself, but was the more financially savvy. As I got older I started to get more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/18 10:19 AM |
| 3 | Is there any personality quality that men are generally better at than women?I think you also need to take a another look at the world around you and take off your red-tinted glasses - and mix them with blue to make purple! ;) Most women don’t get everything paid for by men. Most women are not ‘on the take’. Most women do work hard. If you’re talking about rich women, you’re probably right (Lord knows I see many of these women in the UAE - and many men with not-worked-for oil money who mess about in cars and at Starbucks all day - and drugs and hookers by night while the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/18 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Do Men actually *Like* Women?You sound like you lack empathy. The personality, goals and dreams of others mean a lot to me. They are what helps me connect to people. Connecting my vagina with a dick is a very simple, pleasurable connection, but it’s not very meaningful in and of itself with no interest or connection with the human being the dick is attached to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/18 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Do Men actually *Like* Women?Personality, goals, emotional connections are petty? No, they are the core of the human experience. Orgasms are petty. If your life’s dream is fucking all day every day then, what can I say, I hope sex bots are soon at hand (or dick, I guess). It’s pretty sad that your life dream is to fuck. Sure you can’t have a career in porn or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/18 03:35 PM |
| 2 | Do Men actually *Like* Women?There’s nothing wrong with wanting sex. But not acknowledging that you also want companionship is just nuts. Sure, some men don’t want anything more from women than regular sex, babies and for her to look after the house, I guess. Some guys only want sex from women period and simply don’t like women’s other traits and stereotypical personality. I bet those men are envious of gay men who get to hang out with the truly interesting people (men) and they also get to bone a lot because the male sex d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/18 03:10 PM |
| 6 | Do Men actually *Like* Women?This is sad. I’m so sorry you feel so hopeless. I do not believe the majority of men have so little faith and respect in women. Being a sex and domestic slave sounds like hell on earth and wanting to subject women to it is, frankly, sick and twisted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/18 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Do Men actually *Like* Women?We hate hearing it because it dehumanizes us to a vagina and a domestic servant. Not a human being to share life’s ups and downs with. It’s fucking depressing if most men are so uncaring towards women as individuals that they’d rather we be mute (except for positive affirmations I guess), personality-free sex and service bots. Yeah, of course most women hate to hear it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/18 12:55 PM |
| 3 | Do Men actually *Like* Women?Bravo! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/18 07:58 AM |
| 1 | Male nudity vs female nudity in filmTrue! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/04/18 05:26 AM |
| 3 | Male nudity vs female nudity in filmI’ve seen a few. Shame springs to mind - Michael Fassbender full frontal. It wasn’t sexual, but it wasn’t for laughs or shock either - just a man nude in his apartment. Eastern Promises with Viggo Mortensen - two men fighting naked in a sauna...Jason Segel in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, was a funny scene but his penis wasn’t made fun of...Tom Hardy in several movies. Cillian Murphy in 28 Days Later...There’s been quite a few really. But they are rarely sexual scenes. Oh wait, the Sex and the City… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 10:57 PM |
| 3 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.What am I supposed to say? That’s your view, I don’t agree but you stated it firmly and I doubt you’re going to see it any other way. I don’t even know what feminists are these days anyway - we’re probably not talking about the same people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 07:44 PM |
| 1 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.Yes!! This exactly. I’m sick of femininity and the female experience being painted as weak, boring and uninteresting. The idea that we all need to be more masculine just sits wrong with me - but it seems to be driven strongly today. It’s very sad that mainstream feminism is only devaluing women more in some respects. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 07:42 PM |
| 2 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.Ok then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 07:38 PM |
| 3 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.I wouldn’t say female comics desexualise themselves - more that they de-glamorize their bodies and sex. It seems to be mostly about taking charge of the image of women as passive sexual objects and turning it upside down. I don’t generally find it very funny, but I get the thought behind it too. Not all female comics are like that. Tina Fey, Kristen Wiig, Amy Poehler...they’re all much less sexualised than Amy Schumer, Sarah Silverman or Nikki Glaser. I don’t find them hugely funny, but at least… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 07:38 PM |
| 1 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.Oh, I’m not at all suggesting affirmative action or forcing men to get onboard. I think it will come in time. I’m just pointing out that even I, as a woman, don’t find a lot of female-centric comedy and story telling compelling but I try to push myself to support it sometimes to see a different perspective and ‘de-program’ a little, as it were. I don’t think forcing it is productive, just being aware of it and opened minded is all I think is fair and right to ask. But many people simply write it… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 07:15 PM |
| 2 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.I know. Amy Schumer is not very funny (she’s had her moments) but is certainly the most famous female stand up. Other female comedians exist and are much better, but she gets a lot of attention. Look up Smack the Pony - some of their skits are truly very good and they are all female writers and performers and it’s very female comedy - not trying to be like men, as Schumer does. Tbh, my top comedians are all men - Frankie Boyle, Bill Burr, Jimmy Carr, George Carlin...I like pretty black, offensiv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 06:01 PM |
| 9 | Male nudity vs female nudity in filmMale and female nudity aren’t easy to show equally. I doubt we’re ever going to see a graphic close up of a pussy - you might see bush and maybe an outline of labia. Men’s junk is all out there - there’s no subtlety, lol. It does make it more, ahem, confronting in film. But I agree, most of the time when penises are shown on film/tv they are framed as funny or threatening. I can think of a few exceptions, but generally it’s not framed positively. We are seeing more male nudity framed sexily than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 03:21 PM |
| 5 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.They sure do - just like Amy Schumer jokes about pussy a lot. It’s a well known way to get laughs to joke about human genitalia. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 03:13 PM |
| 4 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.I just don’t see or hear much hatred about penises. And I think many feminist women do defend anyone from being body shamed. It’s rapidly becoming less and less acceptable to body shame anyone over anything. I’m sure there’s lots of examples of women saying horrid things about penises - but there’s lots of examples of women being supportive about them too and telling men who are insecure about their size that other things matter more. I guess it just depends on your perspective and what you pay … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 03:11 PM |
| 7 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.Female comics joke about their vaginas smelling and having big labia too. It’s just a common thing to joke about our own bodies - male or female. Gets a laugh when you make fun of yourself or your gender...I really don’t understand how DarkLord hasn’t heard male comics joking about dicks or that there are many, many more male comics than female. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 02:33 PM |
| 1 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.I don’t actually consider myself to be a feminist - more an egalitarian. Men do talk about penises a lot more than women (I rarely talk about penises - shapes, sizes whatever with girlfriends) and men are also much more prominent in comedy - they tend to joke more in day to day too in my experience. They also take the piss out of each other more than women do to each other or to men. I just don’t see or hear women making horrible comments about penises regularly at all. Take that how you will bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 02:26 PM |
| 31 | The male penis is the most hated human body part in western cultures.I disagree. Genitalia have been made fun of forever - they are not really aesthetically pleasing body parts for the most part and are sort of taboo to speak of openly - ripe for making jokes about. There are many terms used to negatively describe both male and female genitalia. The only reason I can think of penises having more jokes made about them, is because generally in the media men write and perform more comedy and are more likely to talk about penises in general. I really don’t think this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/18 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?As I said in my comment, women vary physically a lot more than men. And we all know men are generally less discerning when it comes to wanting a woman for sex. For an LTR they are more discerning. Also, men do fetishize particular women or women’s features in ways women do not in men. That being said, certainly, many women will have an idea of a hunk. But there are also many women who don’t find someone like say John Cena to embody this...some like more androgynous men or ‘pretty boys’ like Timo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/18 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?I live in the UAE but I’m non-Muslim from New Zealand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/18 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4men: what signs of aging does the typical 30 year old show? Typical 35 year old?Yeah, I don’t dress in a very sophisticated or trendy way - pretty casual mostly with hair down or simply pinned up. I think that can make me look younger. And I don’t have kids, which probably lessens the wrinkles! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 04:47 PM |
| 5 | What are the causes of single-motherhood?Unmarried and single mother are not synonymous in my book, so that graphic doesn’t really tell much more than people are not as worried about having children out of wedlock as they used to be... I know though that single parent families are much more common than they used to be. Single parents in New Zealand number about 28% of families with children. 14% of those single parents are male. I don’t know how this compares to the US. There is plenty of government and social support for single parent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 04:19 PM |
| 3 | Q4men: what signs of aging does the typical 30 year old show? Typical 35 year old?I got carded recently when buying wine when I was on holiday in the UK. I’m 34. I’m often mistaken for mid-twenties. It’ll catch up with me I’m sure and I can definitely see where I’m aging, but it’s not always easy to tell someone’s age without getting really close to them and looking for details that give it away. I don’t think it’s easy generally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 11:22 AM |
| 7 | Q4men: what signs of aging does the typical 30 year old show? Typical 35 year old?So she’s screwed either way. Nice! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 04:43 AM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?I’m not religious at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/18 04:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?This seems fair enough. If a kiss is rejected after the second date, then yeah, she’s not really interested enough to pursue further - or she thinks she’s playing hard to get, which is just a game no one needs to give any time to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 08:41 PM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Well, I certainly argue against the idea of ‘domesticating’ women as it implies we are animals with no right to self determination. It’s forcing women to be one thing and one thing only and I believe that’s morally wrong. The world would be better overall if there was a better balance of male and female virtues in important decision making and planning for the future. Taking women out of it completely only leaves men to make important decisions (which too often are the most confrontational, self… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Ok, I get that. I live in a Muslim country so I know what you mean. But I have to disagree that women belong in the kitchen. Women have the capability to contribute to the family beyond just cooking and looking after children. To me, people should be able to do what fulfills them most. To many women this is being a mother and looking after people. But not to all and I don’t think it’s good for anyone to be forced into a role that makes them unhappy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 03:49 PM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Well of course not. I think it’s stupid when women think they deserve men well above their league professionally/financially/psychologically, etc. Just as I think it’s stupid when average men think they deserve a 21 year old, feminine, non gold digger with a great body. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?Ok. I get these signs but I do think seeing potential in someone will not elicit many obvious signals like you describe. I mean, the interest in what someone is saying, angling your body towards them, and looping back to talk more about their interests, etc is actually just good communication - something I do with anyone I’m communicating with, regardless of attraction. It’s just being polite and engaged. Dilated pupils, deer-in-headlights, and flirtatious body posture/gestures are signs of sexu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?That’s what I was picturing! Lol. Men are not always good at picking up the subtleties of women’s physical communication if they’re not very forward about it. Being interested in someone can be communicated very subtlety at first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 03:09 PM |
| 2 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Most women don’t need men to provide for them anymore so I’m not sure where this ‘stress to provide’ is coming from. Women get stressed by men’s expectations often too. It’s the way it works I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?I still don’t know what the signs are he’s meant to be looking for that she’s ‘hot’ for him? I’m not convinced all women will exhibit it clearly on a couple of dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?Fair enough. I just don’t think OP should give up too quick. And I’m not talking weeks to get to know a guy and get intimate - I’m talking a few dates and clear behavior on his part that he is interested sexually but also in more than just sex. Sure, some women are going to be up for it quickly, but I think most need a few dates to feel at ease and confident enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?Ok, I get it. I think behavior is more important than looks for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 01:54 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?Well, yeah, not too long - nothing wrong with making it clear you want the woman - just expecting a woman to be ‘clearly aroused/interested’ very soon into getting to know her is going to lead to a lot of men giving up too soon, imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Maintain women or kitchens? Lol! Men need a lot of maintenance in my experience - as much as women, just a different kind I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 01:30 PM |
| 6 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?I haven’t read it all because his basic premise strikes me as wrong. He is seeing it from a male perspective - men are excited by women immediately...or not. A woman’s attractiveness is almost solely hinged on her appearance for a man - sure, if her personality is great too, then maybe she’s a ‘keeper’, if it’s not, she’s a sexual release and then leave her be. For women, it doesn’t work this way. A man can be physically not our ideal - but his attractiveness can grow immensely if he gives us th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 09:55 AM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?They would claim that and in some cases they’d be right - but, IMO, this is generally not the way women work for any man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 09:37 AM |
| 5 | Q4ALL: How soon should a woman be showing obvious attraction toward you?How does a woman show ‘obvious’ attraction? I think you’re jumping the gun by pushing her away because she’s not making obvious signs of sexual interest or whatever yet. I can’t speak for all women, but for myself and the women I know - we do take time to get really interested and trust a man to get physical. Is she a little bit shy or insecure? That would certainly confuse obvious attraction. I’m very reserved for quite some time with a man because I’m not very forward and it takes me time to w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 08:27 AM |
| 2 | The Wall -- It's Real -- But Women Hit It Later Than TRP AssertsWomen are more likely than men to have autoimmune disorders, osteoarthritis, depression/anxiety and hormonal disorders. We’re more complicated physiologically than men and have weaknesses related to our reproductive hormones. That’s why you find more women with physical and mental health issues than men in your age group - we suffer from them more, regardless of our diet and lifestyle choices. I’m 34 with fibromyalgia, auto immune inflammatory arthritis and depression (these often go together). … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 06:35 AM |
| 2 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/18 05:28 AM |
| 0 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?But what is a ‘land whale’? Are we talking morbid obesity (which is what it sounds like and is not that widespread...yet, eek!), plain ‘fat’ or anything more than ideal zone BMI? It’s disingenuous to simplify it down to ‘just don’t be fat’ - few men’s lists truly end there. And some men will have sex with almost any woman regardless of weight, age, etc but will only LTR a more specific type because of what their mates will think of them...I genuinely don’t think the gap is that large between the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Physically, women are more diverse than men. Makes sense that men’s tastes are more wide ranging to fit. Still, many men have strong tastes for a certain look in women - be it buxom, small chested, Amazonian, petite...men certainly are more likely to be fetishistic about physical traits. When you say women’s tastes are more homogenous - what are you picturing physically? It seems to me that most of the ‘hot’ men and women portrayed in media are pretty close to each other on the spectrum. I have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Yes, but what characteristics they find attractive can be demanding. Just as they can be for women. Don’t women generally just want a man they are attracted to and is nice to them? That’s just common sense. Being a good person doesn’t require much effort - many more people are good than bad. Being young, having a good figure, being ‘feminine’ (with the many different traits that can encompass), low n-count, own good income source/not a good digger, not a feminist...all those things are harder fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 04:37 PM |
| 3 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Female | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 03:35 PM |
| 1 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Thanks very much! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 08:04 AM |
| 16 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?I think the biggest problem for men and women is that the basic drives are pretty opposite. Men want many young, attractive women for casual sex, women want one exceptionally successful/outstanding (and therefore attractive) man to settle with. These are our ideal lizard brain outcomes but most of us know we’re not going to get it (and many of us use our higher brains to think of less base ways to fulfillment) - there aren’t enough exceptional men or young hot women for everyone to partner up wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 06:15 AM |
| 3 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?Have you read the laundry list many men here have for women? Seems the unrealistic expectations go both ways to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 05:43 AM |
| 2 | Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with men? Generally speaking, what do you think is the biggest problem with women?What’s a soy ally? I think what you say is true for many. But it seems more complex to me that just losing traditional gender values. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/18 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Yes I will bring it up. Last time he kept pushing TMS, which I just can’t afford, so hopefully he’ll look at different avenues now that I’ve been through 4 antidepressants in 6 months! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/18 04:09 AM |
| 4 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, do you not find hooking up with men enjoyable, and therefore isn't it a "win/win" situation when a man fucks you, rather than some kind of "victory" for the man?Both? Well, maybe a woman with vaginismus is for you then! The sadism part is kinda upsetting though - hopefully you’ll find a masochist with vaginismus... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/18 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Funny that - I just keep getting told it’s depression and anxiety and I’m ‘treatment resistant’ so it’s good to have another direction to take it in. Hopefully the psychiatrist will take me seriously - they have a habit of just labeling me as ‘sensitive’ and I need to ‘get out more’ and I’ll be fine. So frustrating! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/18 08:40 AM |
| 23 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, do you not find hooking up with men enjoyable, and therefore isn't it a "win/win" situation when a man fucks you, rather than some kind of "victory" for the man?Of course a vagina can be too tight! If you can’t get into it, surely it’s pretty useless to you? Not to mention how the woman feels about it... Your last paragraph - are you for real? Would you actually prefer it be a painful sacrifice to the woman so you can get a death grip? Do you have a micro penis maybe or are you just sadistic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/18 08:22 AM |
| 11 | Q4Women: Women of PPD, do you not find hooking up with men enjoyable, and therefore isn't it a "win/win" situation when a man fucks you, rather than some kind of "victory" for the man?Virtually all men like tighter vagina’s - especially if they don’t have large penises and/or have masturbated with a death grip for years and expect a vagina to be just as tight. Few women have vaginas that are truly not tight enough, but we certainly get the message that tight is best. Trouble is, a very tight vagina (even one finger is a struggle) is not common or healthy. Vaginismus is like a painful muscle spasm you can’t control (think of getting a crick in your neck) and it makes sex painf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/18 08:02 AM |
| 7 | How honest are women being when they say they don't mind male vulnerability? Do women emotionally burden men as frequently as men do for women?Yes, this is what too vulnerable means - it’s just not possible to be healthy with someone like that if they’re not getting help from other sources as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/18 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Q4Women: How would you react if a man offered you 1000 dollars for sex?Yeah, some of the others I don’t really understand... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 07:34 PM |
| 11 | Q4Women: How would you react if a man offered you 1000 dollars for sex?I’d be appalled. It would feel degrading to me. If I knew the man, I’d be hurt and angry that he knew me so little as to offer - if I didn’t know him, I’d assume he was a creep. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?My biggest problem is apathy for sure. I’ve actually been reading about ADHD in women and it fits me quite well. Not the hyperactive part, but the attention deficit part Because ADHD is more commonly associated with boys, as is autism, it’s often overlooked and misdiagnosed in girls and women. I just read a BBC article the other day about how quite a few women are only diagnosed as on the autism spectrum in their 20’s and 30s - it just doesn’t fit the male pattern when it’s mild. I’m going to ta… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 11:16 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?This all sounds promising. I found duloxetine has been the only SNRI that has helped me - it stopped the negative feedback loop I was stuck in and also made me more bold and decisive. I actually felt more free to be myself than ever really. Unfortunately the side effects were absolutely awful - I stuck it out and it helped for a while and then stopped working. The withdrawal was hell. I’m on desvenlaxafine at the moment and it is making me feel numb and unfocused. I can’t do much of anything for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 08:29 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?My dad has just been put on Zoloft - so here’s hoping it helps! I’m glad it worked well for you and got your through your tour. Killing the sex drive can have its upsides! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?That’s wonderful to hear! :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 04:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Yeah, TMS is also something that needs to be more widespread. It works pretty well for a lot of people and has no side effects. I know someone in the US military who says they use it a lot and it’s quite amazing he results they get. I’ve heard about ketamine too. There definitely need to be more options because many people have ‘treatment-resistant’ depression which in reality is just not responding adequately to the commonly used antidepressants. I’ve tried everything from the standard SS/NRI’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Yes, absolutely, but they have different levels of effectiveness and for some they don’t help enough. I’ve been through 6 different antidepressants over the years because of impossible side effects and/or low efficacy. I’d like to do TMS therapy, but can’t afford it. My dad has definitely been helped by antidepressants, but at a low level and, because he’s a stubborn bastard, he claims he can’t tell the difference... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Yes, this is true. I’m INFJ and feel a bit of both sides - extroverted feeling, but introverted intuition and thinking. Without the extroverted feeeling, I’d be much less empathetic. Even so, I find it hard to be open and ask for help - so I do have an inkling into how hard it is for many men to get help for their problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/18 04:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Men are only very slightly more likely to be introverted than women. Certainly they are less likely to be emotionally sharing and open. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 07:56 PM |
| 4 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?Btw, I’m very glad you didn’t succeed in your attempt and that you got help and are now doing well. Good on you! The struggle is immense against depression and especially hard for men, so you’ve overcome a hell of a lot! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 03:44 PM |
| 11 | Q4ALL: Why are men losing on so many fronts?I think one of the problems with male depression is it manifests very differently that it does in women, for the most part. It’s often less obvious and can sometimes push people away because there’s usually more outward anger and frustration. Men are less likely to seek help as society paints mental illness as weakness - it’s painted this way for men and women, but weakness is much more acceptable from women than men. I have struggled with depression and anxiety since I was about 12. I’m a woman… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 03:43 PM |
| 1 | With a new war brewing in Syria, we should discuss women in the military. Yes or no, and why?Absolutely agree with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/18 06:27 AM |
| 2 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksThanks. I think we’re on the same page about this place. And I like your way with words, btw! Refreshing :) I’m sure you rub plenty of people the wrong way around here while also giving good advice - never stop!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/18 07:04 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksI will stick around here. Hopefully someone will find my advice and viewpoints worth mulling over. To read some RPers, only immediate physical attraction counts: so lift and be dominating or accept you’re a ‘beta provider’ who’ll be ‘divorce raped’ and replaced by Chad one day! sigh Part of me wants to give them all a hug and tell them to have a little faith in people, most of us are decent - and part of me wants them all get to sex dolls and leave real women alone! You’re making me blush! Alas,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/18 05:58 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksShucks, thanks for that :) I do sometimes think I’m too good for this sub! Some of the stuff I read makes me cringe for humanity! I’ll probably go off it before long because it gets too depressing: it’s mostly people feeling sorry for themselves and expecting the world to fix it or people with no empathy trumpeting selfish individualism and ‘if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em’. Few people seem interested in learning from the ‘other side’ and keeping an open mind. As for getting hotter the more you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/18 04:46 PM |
| 1 | What is the exact nature of creepiness? What EXACTLY is creepiness? Do we unfairly stigmatize creepy people (obsessiveness/impulse-control/sperginess are all neurogenetic, not matters of choice)? How can a person become non-creepy?Ok. Lack of charm and deference is basically being overly blunt and impolite. I don’t think wrong footing someone/teasing them is anything but rude if you’re not friends. From a stranger it seems like try-hard ‘negging’ PUA tactics, or like you have no care or knowledge of people’s feelings. Charm is hard to define, but encompasses lack of deference/respect and poor interpersonal skills. It’s not creepy necessarily, it can just be awkward, but combined with rudeness it can make someone seem thre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/18 04:29 PM |
| 1 | What is the exact nature of creepiness? What EXACTLY is creepiness? Do we unfairly stigmatize creepy people (obsessiveness/impulse-control/sperginess are all neurogenetic, not matters of choice)? How can a person become non-creepy?Well, good then. I hope you can be friends. :) But why are you so sure you can’t date her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/18 04:11 PM |
| 1 | What is the exact nature of creepiness? What EXACTLY is creepiness? Do we unfairly stigmatize creepy people (obsessiveness/impulse-control/sperginess are all neurogenetic, not matters of choice)? How can a person become non-creepy?You just want to hang out with this woman? Really? No thoughts in your head of wanting more? She’ll suspect there’s more to it. And if you’re not careful she might use you as a guy who’ll do things for her and boost her ego. Why would you want to hang out with someone you find attractive, but believe yourself to be ‘out of their league’? This doesn’t make sense to me. You will come across creepier asking to be friends than asking for a date or to get coffee, imo. People make friends in social se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/18 03:52 AM |
| 3 | Short model looking guy. What is his "league"?5’8” isn’t short, so I don’t see it detracting from his looks at all | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/18 01:14 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksYeah, that was a lot of text! I don’t think it’s a loser mentality - if we were all ambitious go getters there’d be even more mental health issues and suicide. Some people are not made to be at ‘the top’ or striving for it. The world needs people who are content with being the wind beneath the wings of the leaders, adventurers and inventors. Painting it in terms of winning and losing is simplistic and disrespectful to all those who make the day to day world function. What’s wrong with being happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/18 12:16 PM |
| 1 | If it is acceptable for women to leave unsuccessful men is it acceptable to for men to leave unattractive women?For me personally, I look at people who do this as selfish and disloyal. I don’t think you can love someone and then stop loving them because they lose their job or gain weight. You fell in love for a reason - if that reason was 90% because of their job or looks, then I don’t think that’s real love. It’s convenience, transaction, lust - to me that isn’t love. If you love someone, you stick with them through thick and thin unless they betray you or give up on themselves in the long term. So, it’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/18 08:21 AM |
| 3 | Do you notice or judge women for being promiscuous?This is how I feel about it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Engaging in a submissive sexual role hampers women’s sexual arousal.Obviously many women really love to be very submissive, so I doubt this applies to them. We have a very strong culture of all sex being female submissive - to some the very act of being penetrated is submissive, no matter the circumstances, no exception. That obviously means women are always submissive and this wouldn’t matter because she can’t have another role anyway. Her arousal is dependent entirely on the man’s initiative and behavior. I think many women assume the submissive role because t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 06:35 PM |
| 5 | Wouldn't it be formative for women to experience men's sexual energy?I don’t think you know what PMS is truly like anymore than a woman knows what the male sexual experience is like. I’ve certainly heard men talk about sexual frustration, getting visually aroused by many women around them and having sex on the brain to the point of distraction. I haven’t heard men describe it anything like the way women describe PMS...And women do not get a free pass for it, ime, we have to work and carry out our other duties with often intense emotionality (I get more tearful th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/18 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?You have your opinion, i have mine. No worries. I wouldn’t wear it to work, but for casual it’s fine imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 07:17 PM |
| 3 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?No, zoom in on the grey suit and also several in the slideshow have belt loops. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 05:56 PM |
| 3 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?I don’t think it looks stupid not to wear a belt. If your pants fit well, it’s not needed and they can look fine without a belt. Seems some stylish men agree with me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 04:01 PM |
| 3 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?Ok. Thanks - hadn’t thought of it that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 09:13 AM |
| 2 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?Yeah, that’s why I said I have no clue - should have been clearer, sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 07:04 AM |
| 2 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?Why not short sleeves? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?I don’t think he looks great - too fussy. If he’s Swedish, I’d get it - that’s just how men dress there - but I’m from New Zealand, so we’d probably say ‘Wellington hipster’ or something if a guy walked up dressed like that! Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 05:34 AM |
| 8 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?I think you’re probably a little overestimating the cost of an outfit like that, but I have no clue how much more it costs if you’re really tall...but I agree, he looks too metrosexual/trendy for my taste. Not all women like men dressed like that. I’m not interested in fashion in the least, so I’d assume a man dressed like that is into it and probably not going to like my no-fuss style. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 05:31 AM |
| 5 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?Jeans/plain khaki pants and a button down short sleeved shirt? Belt optional (can look a bit preppy) Or clean, plain t-shirt, polo neck or v-neck. If it’s really hot weather, plain khaki or navy blue shorts just above the knee. It’s the patterned shorts or the really tight or really loose ones that look particularly unattractive. But I don’t even really like shorts on women outside of the beach/park, so...Shoes don’t matter much to me as long as they’re not dirty. Most things are all right for o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?Yeah, I’ve seen this too. But I only wash my hair twice a week and it never gets greasy. I wash it more often if I get really sweaty though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 02:52 AM |
| 22 | Question for Women: What can men do to be more attractive? Question for Men: What can women do to be more attractive?I say this all the time - so many men dress like kids. It makes me question if they want a girlfriend or a mother sometimes! It’s not hard to look like a grown up. I don’t expect high fashion (in fact I’m not into men who look too put together because they ping) - just clothes the right size, no holes in them and not gym attire for basically every occasion! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/18 02:48 AM |
| 2 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksMy dad is an artist and I’m a photographer - I know all too well that life isn’t easy for those who choose not to take the ‘safe’ road of mainstream education and salaried jobs. It’s not as exciting or glamorous as anyone thinks, but it’s fulfilling if that’s what calls to you. If you are happy in your job and feel fulfilled, then keep doing it. Don’t change yourself in any essential way to get women - I just don’t really believe that will get you a truly good match. So if the alternative is MGT… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/18 02:15 PM |
| 2 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksI think many people are raised like this today - I’m from New Zealand (white family) and most of the friends and family of my generation have taken the same path as you. Education and job security first, passions and socializing second. Being free spirited, adventurous and artistic is discouraged by most average families as it’s financially risky and seen as irresponsible. But I agree that for Asians this seems to be particularly strictly adhered to and frowned upon if you step off the narrow pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/18 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Can a man be 'high-value' and still be a cheater?Not really - only if others don’t know about the cheating. It indicates a lack of self control, loyalty and communication skills. I’ve known women who have given men a second chance after the first affair, but in both cases he cheated again and that was the end of the relationship and those men went down a peg in everyone’s eyes. Of course, the next woman may not know of his cheating past, so his value is unchanged in her eyes - but if she knows, he’s lower because she’ll always be wary of him c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 09:23 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksDo you think the confidence and health boost from your weight loss could be a factor along with your looks? Feeling more at ease in your body and more proud of it changes posture, confidence and certain undefinable nuances that could add up to ‘presence’ - that likely has a lot to do with your better dating success. Good for you, btw! Losing weight is very hard but the benefits are indeed huge - having lost some weight myself, I also notice lots of differences across the board. Being fat (up to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 09:13 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksI didn’t mean to make it sound like you believe you’re entitled to Stacie’s. Some guys do seem to believe that though, but it sounds like you don’t. What is average is subjective though. The reality is that an average woman is a bit fat (not 300lbs, more like 180), not glamorous and likely, if not a feminist, then leaning heavily that way. I’m sorry you grew up with such a laser focus put on your education being the key to all happiness - that really sucks. I’ve always thought it’s a terrible pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 06:31 PM |
| 2 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksThat all makes pretty good sense to me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 04:00 PM |
| 2 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually works/u/KwesiJohnson is right. I don’t get why average men think they’re going to get above average women...And what’s wrong with average anyway? It’s where most of us are and most of us are pretty great people! It’s natural to wish you were one of the hot people so you could sleep with other hot people...but that’s a fairytale that only works out for a few. It’s not settling to be realistic and find people in your ‘league’ as it were... Some of the guys here just seem bitter they’re not able to be w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 03:57 PM |
| 1 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksOk I get it - that makes more sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 03:36 PM |
| 3 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksYou see - now that is attractive! Doing what you really want - finding your passion - is attractive. Going to the gym just to look ripped to get women is not attractive. It makes it seem like a man’s main purpose in life is to get laid, which is pretty sad. You should be daring and do what you want in spite of the ‘safe’ voice telling you to save for your retirement and minimise risk. I think it’s sexy when men are going for it - sticking their necks out for what they believe in or what truly br… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 02:02 AM |
| 3 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksWell, I think people nowadays are encouraged to be career focused and also be aware that being fit is attractive and healthy. I didn’t realise men were taught that all you needed to do was get an education and a good job and ignore your fitness and women would follow...I thought it was common sense that being reasonably attractive always played in your favour. My take on it is often that men today don’t give much thought to other things that are appealing to women: dress sense, good conversation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/18 01:58 AM |
| 15 | [Debate] This is how female attraction actually worksIs being primitively attractive to many women so important that you’d have derailed the chance to have good job, money and hopefully professional happiness and hit the gym instead? Really?! You sound like you got a good education and a good job - did you do all that just to get women? I don’t get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/18 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Parkland shooter, who killed 17 people, receives hundreds of love letters from girls across the nationObviously these women are not representative of women as a whole - a small minority of women are truly attracted to serial killers or mass murderers. But my take on why some women are attracted to these violent men would be this: these women are likely ‘low-value’ as TRPers would put it and also ‘disturbed’ in some way. There is a paraphilia called hybristophilia which many of these women have. As for more typical feminine traits that could contribute - I think a misplaced sense of caring and nu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/18 05:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women: What makes a man masculine to you?My tastes for more masculine or more feminine looking men fluctuate. Some days I will find the classic ‘pretty boy’ appealing, others I will think ‘meh’ about him and be more attracted to a heavier set, hairy guy...Probably related to hormones when I think about it. Some men go from one to the other as they age, which is cool! And others can chameleon between the two to some extent. The best is a man who is masculine (tall-ish, broad, deep voice, determined, focused) who also has a softer side (… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/18 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Female attraction vs arousalYou certainly sound like you think and feel intensely. But that’s not a bad thing. It’s just that it can be misconstrued as threatening or aggressive sometimes. It can be off-putting to have someone very quickly seem to be very invested and devoted to you. I know there’s lots of fictional stories of intense love building really fast, but the reality is usually less intense and takes longer. Maybe coming across as very interested and quite devoted early on might make some women feel too much pres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/18 04:35 AM |
| 2 | [Q4W] for those ladies who hate modern feminism why do you hate it?This includes both positive and negative traits and is obviously just a generalization from personal observation and studies I have read. Essential femininity: nurturing, community-centric, good communicator, empathetic, conciliatory, gentle, pragmatic, sensitive, affectionate, tolerant, accepting, intuitive, selfless, more prone to vanity, fickleness, self indulgence and neuroticism. Essential masculinity: assertive, ambitious, competitive, risk taking, physical, big picture thinkers, self conf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/18 04:17 AM |
| 7 | [Q4W] for those ladies who hate modern feminism why do you hate it?Hate is too strong a word, but I dislike the modern feminists who blame men for everything - imagining a cabal of men plotting to keep women down. I also dislike that many believe all men would rape if given the chance and that men are not suitable for certain jobs - like caring for small children. That is just sexism pure and simple. I also believe there are inherent gender differences and strengths/weaknesses that are common in each gender - most modern feminists assert that this is all nurtur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/18 03:31 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Female attraction vs arousalI’ve just read through your comments on this thread and I’m wondering if maybe you come off a bit too intense? Idk, but I have met guys who are just intense in the way they look and talk and although there’s no sign of aggression, there is a sense they don’t really see me - rather they are just in their own heads and want to get off and I happen to take their fancy at that moment. They’re trying very hard to get what they want and not acknowledging my reaction to them really. Just seeing/hearing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/18 06:47 AM |
| 1 | Women, would you find it weird if a guy had an invisible girlfriend?Well, sure it’s weird - but it sort of depends on the circumstances. I mean, is this girlfriend just a way of visualising what is and isn’t desired in a real girlfriend and a way of ‘practicing’ (in his head) how to talk to her, etc? Or does he talk out loud to an invisible woman and have no interest in real women? If it’s the latter, then there’s a mental health issue. The former could be a technique for visualising a goal and that’s not unusual. I’ve also heard of people on the Autism spectrum… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/18 06:30 AM |
| 9 | Q4W: Female attraction vs arousalYes, I think this is very true. Arousal doesn’t happen just by looking at a man - I’m open to it when I see a man I am physically attracted to, but that’s not enough to actually get me physically ready for sex with him. So many other things come into play when it comes to arousal. It’s so different from how it seems to be for men. A man could see a great pair of breasts or nice ass and be aroused and ready for sex without anything else necessarily coming into play - I think few women are aroused… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/18 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Why people lie to themselves about what is physically attractiveThe reason I think personality matters more than looks is simply that I spend more time interacting with someone on a non-sexual level than sexually. It’s important their voice is pleasing to me. It’s important I like the way they smell and feel when we are physically close. But most important is how they make me feel about myself and how well we can converse and do enjoyable things together. Their looks are just not the most important factor in any of this. But they are undeniably an important … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/18 04:37 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Dolls vs ProstitutesProstitutes for sure. They are thinking, feeling, imperfect human beings like the rest of us, as opposed to (un)realistic, idealized objects of high grade plastic used as masturbation aids - and sometimes bizarrely as permanent female replacements. It depends what kind of sex workers too though - drug addicted, street corner types are very different from those working in registered brothels or as high class independents. It also depends if he’s just doing it for the sexual release, or for a ‘gir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/18 02:01 PM |
| 1 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?Yes, it’s usually women who are the most appalled at the thought of another person not wanting children. It just feels like for women there’s more expectation that you will get all gooey over kids and have more of an emotional attachment to the idea of having them. I had even very progressive people think I’d like to be an au pair when I was younger because I have quite a ‘feminine’ personality and also I have that buxom look that some (unkindly) term as matronly. Never expressed any interest in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/18 05:48 PM |
| 2 | It's socially acceptable for a woman to destroy a man's property after a bitter break-up, right?That’s terrible! You should press charges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/18 03:30 PM |
| 5 | It's socially acceptable for a woman to destroy a man's property after a bitter break-up, right?I hate this sort of thing and I don’t understand why it’s seemingly acceptable to portray this as if it’s normal behavior. I don’t think there’s anything good or strong about destroying property to show your anger. For some reason it does seem to be a relatively common trope in the media: women breaking things, throwing men’s belongings out a window and even punching or slapping. It’s pretty disgusting. To me it makes women look really bad - like we’re all over-reactive, jealous, violent harpies… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/18 02:32 PM |
| 2 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?Glad to give you some good news about getting older, lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 08:42 PM |
| 3 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?Sure! We should be free to be who we want to be and not be treated disrespectfully for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?It’s seems to me most people procreate because a) their genes will progress another generation b) they’re expected to and it gives them status c) they believe it will make them happy And plenty procreate with no forethought at all... All those reasons are selfish. And don’t get me started on the people who reproduce knowing their offspring will have a high chance of serious genetic diseases...that’s supremely selfish. As for it being a woman’s one job...well, sure, from a purely biological stanc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 07:35 PM |
| 5 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?Very true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 07:26 PM |
| 9 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?Most women who delay having kids or decide not to are aware of the consequences. Reminding them just seems patronizing. I mean, some people with children regret having them before they got to do other things with their life. Kids take over your life (as they should) and plenty of people don’t realize that before it’s too late. If I desperately want a child later and can’t conceive, I can adopt, which to me is quite appealing. You can’t give up the children you have or neglect them to keep your f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 07:24 PM |
| 7 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?No, I shouldn’t, but it’s a traditional belief that a woman’s worth is tied up in her fertility. If you can’t have kids, that’s sad and you’ll get sympathy, but if you say you don’t want kids...well, you’re a bit of an aberration to some people. This is only to a few people though, most don’t ask or make a comment about me not having kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 07:13 PM |
| 3 | What are the best books to help a man understand female sexuality/attraction?You can’t seriously think makeup is that magical!? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 07:08 PM |
| 14 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?I know you didn’t ask me, but yes, I’ve been questioned, pitied and given unsolicited advice by family members and acquaintances - because I’m 34 with no kids. No one has specifically used the term ‘woman up’ but it’s clear they think less of me as a woman because I don’t have kids and don’t really have a great desire to. I’ve been told time is running out for me on more than one occasion. I wouldn’t say it’s common though - mostly it’s older people who do it, but sometimes also people who reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 05:29 PM |
| 7 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?I think it’s definitely worse for women. We are expected to want kids and if we say we don’t or we’re not sure, then we’re not being ‘real women’. We’re being selfish, immature and unnatural. Men are generally expected to settle down eventually and have kids sure, but many see it as central to womanhood to have children. I don’t think it’s central to manhood in the same way. Childless, unmarried men are often celebrated (mostly by other men who think they’ve got it good) or accepted, whereas bei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?Ok, I get your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 05:17 PM |
| 2 | Are there ways society tells you to "Woman up" or shames you for not being a "Real Woman"?Yes, this is very true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 05:14 PM |
| 3 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?Well, most women do want a connection (as do most men) - doesn’t mean it works out that way. People fail at many things they aspire to fit all sorts of reasons. But their intentions matter, IMO. If you feel a sex doll is your only real chance at sexual happiness then that’s entirely up to you. As I said, I have a right to find that sad and weird because it seems like you’re giving up because you expect an ideal situation. Dead bedrooms aren’t entirely the fault of women and if you expect to have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 04:39 PM |
| 2 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?I’m not an expert on sexual history, but as far as j know women’s independent sexuality has pretty much always had a veil of shame over it. Most cultures have archetypes of female purity and chastity and the belief that women’s sexuality was tied to men and procreation. I did study Classics and recall the Greeks believing that women couldn’t attain sexual pleasure without the introduction of semen - and that men were encouraged to masturbate (even in public)...Mostly female sexual pleasure simpl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 01:29 PM |
| 2 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?Yes. Having a man really desire me and want to pleasure me is the biggest turn on. But it’s not the only one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 12:44 PM |
| 4 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?Sure, but not always. I can get turned on by imagining how it might feel to touch him and be touched by him - and a nicely shaped phallus might make me throb. But the movement/voice/behavior and personality of that body is a big factor in how turned on I get. Do I get wet looking at the statue of David? No. I’m not shaming men who just like the look of a body. It’s really about the men who want a doll toreplace a woman. If you have a sex doll, but you still date and can appreciate a woman despit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 11:11 AM |
| 3 | What are the best books to help a man understand female sexuality/attraction?It is depressing, yes - many women aren’t genetically blessed with ideal features either and feel undesirable because of it. The fact is though, there are people who don’t really care and aren’t so shallow. That video doesn’t speak for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 09:56 AM |
| 5 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?Woah - you are obviously bitter about women. Few women have no stretch marks and no ‘crooked toes’ (or other petty imperfections). Waistlines vary and boobs inevitably sag with age in almost all women, especially when they are large, which is ideal to many men. Some women never have perky boobs or a nipped in waist, even at an ideal weight. Women are also quite hardwired with what an ideal male form looks like - tall, broad shouldered, muscular, tight butt...Most men don’t conform to this any mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 09:53 AM |
| 4 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?I’m not just talking active shaming by religion - I know that happened to men as well. I’m talking no public discussion or common acknowledgement of female masturbation. I heard lots of references, jokes and discussion about jerking off in fiction/tv/movies and school growing up but no mention of girls doing it. If it was mentioned, it was something somehow unusual and slutty if a girl masturbated regularly - whereas for a guy it was just a normal part of life. Girls admit to masturbation and ey… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 05:03 AM |
| 4 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?No. A Sybian is not crafted to look like a man. Its just a vibrating saddle! It’s the anthropomorphism of sex dolls that make them especially weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/18 04:55 AM |
| 12 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?No. I don’t say ‘you go girl!’ to girls either. Historically women’s masturbation has been more taboo though, so I don’t see the two as equal. But egging someone on to self pleasure is a little OTT for me... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/18 09:21 PM |
| 3 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?I think you’re right. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/18 08:48 PM |
| 8 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?You asked :) Sex dolls are not equal to dildos. Fleshlights are though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/18 08:44 PM |
| 8 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?A don’t think a sex doll is equal to a dildo at all. A sex doll is seeking to replicate an entire female body - not just the sexual organ. Dildo = fleshlight. A sex doll = ??? I don’t believe male sex dolls are commonly available, but I could well be wrong. They’re creepy too and I wouldn’t be ‘you go girl!’ about them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/18 08:40 PM |
| 15 | Why do women (overwhelmingly) enforce a sex toy/masturbation double standard: "you go girl!" vs. "he must be a creepy perv who can't get a girl in the real world", etc?If we’re talking like a real doll it’s very different from a fleshlight....I’ve got no issue with a fleshlight or vibrating cock ring or something, no different to a girl having a vibrator, but a realistic doll is a bit weird. I think it’s probably that I’ve seen documentaries/news clips about men who would rather have a doll than a real woman. Even men who give them names and treat them like their girlfriend. They’re a tiny minority though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/18 07:26 PM |
| 5 | Women of PPD, can we lay the "height" issue to rest?I find height is a factor in my attraction to men. I like men to be taller than me (I’m 5’4”) and I admit that a man who is already appealing to me is bumped up a factor if he’s also tall. But it is not an attractive feature on its own that trumps other physical features. I think some women place more importance on height than I do and some much less. I would say the majority of women do like men to be taller than they are and many find taller than average men particularly physically attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/18 01:25 PM |
| 2 | Is it an accomplishment or achievement if a man has casual sex with a lots of obese women?I don’t really know the stats of how easy it is to get casual sex with extremely fat women vs all other women - is it really that much easier? I know a few very obese women, and I’m overweight myself, and we aren’t any ‘easier’ than regular sized women. Less men are interested in very large women for sure, but many fat women are quite suspicious of fat fetishists or men who just want to bust a nut and have zero intention of more because they’re embarrassed to have had sex with a woman their frie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/18 08:49 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Sounds like your parents got it right! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 02:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"You sound like you had a very balanced upbringing. My mum was definitely a bit too permissive - I admire her generosity, but she could be too generous and it certainly enabled my dad to be slack when he shouldn’t have been and I didn’t grow up with much financial know how at all. I get what you mean about learning a lesson through not asking for help. You’re right, you weren’t in danger from running out of money for food and it taught your to budget better. As I said, you sound very well balance… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 01:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"That’s a very good comment! It’s hard to feel valued for your kindness and nurturing in a society where so many people are obsessed with finances (because of the system we live in). It’s partly why I find this all so fascinating to discuss. To me, being a strong woman is about that kindness, nurturing and care for others that takes precedence over our own desires a lot of the time. There’s a strength, beauty and worth in that that the modern world tends not to celebrate. Money, status and wealth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Yes, I don’t really know where all these women are who are supposedly leeching off men with no shame attached... The only way I think it’s bad is that money is not the only thing of value. If you can’t contribute financially then it doesn’t necessarily mean you are a leech if you do many other things to contribute that a person values. Obviously it’s entirely up to the people involved to decide what is fair though. To me having everyone revolve around money as your idea of contribution and self … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"My parents did when I was a teen and it just sort of stuck :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Yes, I’m an expat :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"That’s nice to know. I’m a pretty vulnerable sort of woman - I’m far happier as a nurturer than an earner, but I do feel quite looked down on by my friends and family for that. Even some of the men say I need to toughen up and be more ambitious. Being nurturing, kind and emotionally available isn’t very highly regarded by most nowadays. It’s all about the money... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Yes, I agree. The UK and New Zealand are pretty similar culturally. Outside of disability, you’re expected to look after yourself as an adult. Even in the marriages of my friends in their 30s, finances are split pretty evenly with the one earning less often even having less spending money - I personally believe ‘what’s mine is yours’ when you’re married, but a lot of people today see it as leeching if you don’t contribute equally and you have to make up for it some other way. It’s a bit extreme … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 10:09 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.So what are role models then if not successful individuals with admirable qualities? If you’re a programmer, engineer, entrepreneur or inventor surely those men are role models? Who are role models of masculinity to you? Obviously they vary from person to person. Plenty of women see the Kardashians as role models, while others see them as the antithesis of role models. Lady Gaga certainly tries to have sex appeal and be physically uninhibited and provocative. That is the same with basically all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 10:03 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Yes, I think men are more accepting of female vulnerability - though it’s often framed as weakness and women being like children, which sounds shaming to me... To me, everyone is going in the direction of individualism - we expect everyone to be a completely independent person with no ‘need’ to rely on others. A good friend of mine got really upset recently when she was out of work for a time and had to rely on her husbands income - she felt it was very unfair and that he was so good for support… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 05:36 AM |
| 1 | Female loneliness vs Male loneliness. Is there a difference? What is it?Yes, I guess you’re right. I just think for many women emotional contact needs to be in place before physical sexual contact. And for many men sexual contact leads to emotional contact. I should have said ‘sexual physical contact’. I think you can have well-being without sexual contact - but you still need affectionate physical gestures like hugs, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 05:27 AM |
| 1 | Female loneliness vs Male loneliness. Is there a difference? What is it?That’s awful about that girlfriend. She shouldn’t have been with you if all she wanted was sex, very cold indeed. I think that’s why I don’t like the idea of hook ups or casual sex where that mentality is needed - it would make me feel really lonely. I mean, women and men are not all the same - I’m talking generalizations. There are certainly women who are unemotional about sex and men who are - but it’s more common the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 05:24 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Well I’m in the UAE but from New Zealand. Obviously the UAE shames women for independence...but in New Zealand it’s pretty shameful for anyone to be dependent on others. Both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/18 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"I can give you anecdotal examples...it’s not really acceptable in my country to be a dependent woman. It happens and it’s more acceptable than it is for men, but a woman is looked down on if she’s not independent. Feminists definitely look down on such women - and their views are mainstream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"Yes. In my country (New Zealand) it is looked down on for a woman to be ‘weak’ or dependent. Again, not as much as it is for a man, but it’s certainly not acceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Men of PPD, how would you explain male sexuality to women who are confused about "neediness" vs. "independence?"I think this is pretty accurate. Though many women these days are shamed for not being independent. Though men are shamed more, for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 06:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.Wonder Woman is a strong woman in that she kicks ass, etc. Plenty of women in films do that and it’s usually pretty unrealistic and more of a masturbatory fantasy for comic fans than a real role model for young women. Well, there are plenty of ‘geeky’ success stories out there - Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg - all the tech entrepreneurs. Plus there’s accolades in gaming to be had. Then you have pro athletes, chess grand masters, extreme sportsmen, firefighters, spiritual leaders, CEOs..… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Female loneliness vs Male loneliness. Is there a difference? What is it?Yeah, me too in many ways :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 05:01 PM |
| 4 | Female loneliness vs Male loneliness. Is there a difference? What is it?Great quote - and very true for most of us. Why are we on this sub again?! That quote kind of sums it up...lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 04:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.Yes, plenty of Fe! I would argue just the right amount though ;) Not the dominant function - that would be exhausting! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 04:30 PM |
| 6 | Female loneliness vs Male loneliness. Is there a difference? What is it?Yes, this exactly. Having men want you doesn’t remove this type of loneliness - it can exacerbate it if you only get lustful attention from men and you want more than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 02:57 PM |
| 3 | Female loneliness vs Male loneliness. Is there a difference? What is it?Yes, I was thinking along those lines - that for men emotional connection often comes along after physical intimacy. For women it’s often necessary to have an emotional connection before a physical one...No wonder we find each other hard to understand sometimes! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 02:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.Yes you’re right - many women have been ambitious in a vicarious way. Yes, INFJs seem to be common online - amazing considering we’re supposedly so rare...We’re usually quite happy to discuss and espouse our beliefs - and we hate to be wrong! Perfect for a controversial debate sub, lol! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 02:38 PM |
| 11 | Female loneliness vs Male loneliness. Is there a difference? What is it?Woman here. Interesting question! Yes, I’ve felt lonely - but it comes and goes. Ask me one day if I’m lonely and I’ll say yes, ask the next and I’ll say no - it’s not a constant state for me. Even though I live quite a lonely life by many definitions, I’m a real introvert and typically don’t mind solitude. But being physically lonely and being emotionally/psychologically lonely are different things. I suspect men feel physical loneliness more acutely than women, and women are more sensitive to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 12:26 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.Ok, so that’s just being human then? Being ambitious, disregarding the desires of others and going for what you want? Those are all traits associated with men and until recently (and still in many cultures and groups) were considered un-feminine. When men here describe femininity it seldom mentions these traits - they usually want women to be quite traditionally feminine, which doesn’t jibe with the ambition needed to pursue more selfish goals. So to you body language is primarily what defines m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 11:45 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.What are masculinity role models? To me, a masculine man is basically a man who is doing what he wants with his life and not caring what others think/letting them turn him around. He could be in basically any profession and doesn’t need to be built like an athlete. Masculinity to me seems to have a broader meaning than femininity. Femininity tends to be an aesthetic first and foremost and then a passive, nurturing disposition rounds it out. Einstein was very much a real man: fiercely intelligent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 09:45 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.Beyoncé and Oprah yes - but Gal Gadot? Just because she played Wonder Woman or has she done other things? Adele is another I admire. I can list many positive male role models as well - I didn’t say there were no good role models for young women, just that the ones that get the most attention in popular culture tend not to be very admirable, IMO. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 09:26 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.Yeah! Most of the most popular females in entertainment are not great role models for younger women. The Kardashians, Katy Perry, Mikey Cyrus...I want women who are truly strong, remarkable women to be celebrated. Female athletes, scientists, explorers/mountaineers, entrepreneurs...you don’t hear much about them in the mainstream unless they do a sexy photo shoot... Men have many, many positive role models in the mainstream media of successful men (from business men, to athletes, to scientists, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 06:38 AM |
| 4 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.All of this - there are lots of examples of successful masculine body language out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 03:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't have good examples of how to BE.We have loads of terrible role models. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone know who produces the incel comics?Yeah, never give a chance to in the sense he’ll never respect them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/18 03:32 AM |
| 4 | Does anyone know who produces the incel comics?I don’t know who draws it, but it’s sad. Sad that the guy might have experienced this firsthand, sad that he thinks this is typical and sad for the women he’ll never give a chance to...I hate seeing heartbreak turn into hatred, such a waste. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/18 05:40 PM |
| 2 | The obsession with fat womenGreat comment. I think fat women are dehumanized by some men (lots of examples in these comments) - your example makes my skin crawl. And I think you’re right that the equivalent for women regarding men is lacking a backbone. Even then, I feel sorry for them rather than hatred or true disgust. I love that quote - it really is the best way to see others - with compassion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/18 04:05 AM |
| 3 | Q4RP&PP: How did you find the Red Pill?I find gender dynamics interesting, aspects of modern feminism troubling and the frequency of online sexism enraging. That led me to PP which then led me to RP and BP - and back to PP which I chose to start commenting in because it’s often too darn irresistible not to get involved! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/18 03:43 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely non-intuitive? Also, what good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely COUNTER-intuitive?Women most certainly did work and forage for food. They didn’t hunt large game, but in the few hunter gatherer societies left today the women actually work as much as the men (arguably more) on a day to day basis. They are responsible for the children, collecting water, foraging for foods (including catching small game and collecting eggs) and cooking. The men go out and do the hunting but are often gone for days at a time and may come back empty handed - the women keep the group going while the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/18 01:32 PM |
| 3 | Does love even exist at this point?This place is cynical and often takes a bleak view of men, women and relationships - talking in mostly negative generalizations. They’re right for a portion of people - but for me through lots of travel and meeting people from all over the world, most people are not as shallow and easy to pigeon hole as these subs (and pop culture media) suggest. I know it’s cliched advice, but try looking outside the internet and media for examples of the kinds of people you want to meet. Find a hobby that you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/03/18 07:09 AM |
| 1 | Q4BP: What good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely non-intuitive? Also, what good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely COUNTER-intuitive?I meant why are women portrayed in such a positive way in films and tv? I know why they’re sexualised...but why men are often portrayed negatively and women are usually wonderful is harder to explain when the writers, producers and directors are mostly men. Why have women been put on a pedestal to perpetuate the myth that women are wonderful to men for centuries? Is it to pander to women? Is it wishful thinking? The same way heroes are portrayed I guess - an idealization of the perfect man and w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/18 08:58 PM |
| 0 | Q4BP: What good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely non-intuitive? Also, what good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely COUNTER-intuitive?Ok, I wasn’t really trying to refute your point in all this. I think you are pretty much correct. The manosphere tends to go too far though and make women out to be all nothing like they’ve been told. The fact is, many women are kind and nurturing - but they also have negative traits that are often glossed over in the media, that’s true. On a related note: why do you think the mainly male produced media paints women this way? It’s been doing this for a very long time - before feminism. Women hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/18 07:20 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: What good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely non-intuitive? Also, what good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely COUNTER-intuitive?Ok, I get it. Yes, there are certainly more negative narratives out there about men - and more narratives of lovely, sweet women. Men write the lion’s share of these narratives too. But along with being painted as kind and sweet, women are also painted as more fragile, more needy and more selfish. I roll my eyes all the time at women in films/tv that are often bitching and pouting at their man for putting his heroic job or quest ahead of their relationship...Women are not always painted positive… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/18 05:24 PM |
| 5 | Q4BP: What good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely non-intuitive? Also, what good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely COUNTER-intuitive?I don’t know any women this disloyal. The only divorces I know happened because the man cheated (was given a second chance but cheated again a few years later); the woman was bipolar and would not use her meds correctly and became impossible to live with (and they both had affairs); they got married young and in a hurry and man wanted kids, woman didn’t; got married after trauma threw them together and they eventually just didn’t make a good couple anymore (very possessive wife) but they’re stil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/18 03:30 PM |
| 6 | Q4BP: What good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely non-intuitive? Also, what good/smart/useful TRP-advice is genuinely COUNTER-intuitive?This is what I’ve seen too. I don’t really understand the whole ‘women are wonderful’ thing - I always thought everyone knew women are people and people come in variations of good and bad. Women do tend to be more nurturing, but that doesn’t mean all are. And yeah, I’ve seen more neglect and abandonment by men than the other way round...not sure what the stats say, but that’s how it seems to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/18 02:48 PM |
| 3 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?In your last example - absolutely, the woman should be doing the cooking and cleaning. No question in my mind. You’re creating very specific scenarios though that I don’t think they are the norm. In my own experience and observations, men do not work harder than women when it’s evened out. In some households, it’s uneven with the man doing more - but more often than not, the women I know work as many hours as the men in similar job sectors and other similar demands on them and still do most of t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/18 05:47 AM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?Yes, I think this is the case for many men. As a woman, I of course want things to be good for other women and not to be in a world that marginalizes us and our needs as much as it has in the past - but achieving that should not mean tearing down the behaviors and ‘rituals’ men need to lead fulfilling lives as well. I believe many people who support feminism have good intentions of wishing to promote the rights of women to choose what they want to do with their lives and not have to conform to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 05:01 PM |
| 8 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?I don’t know one man who can rebuild an engine. Hell, most of the men I know can’t change a tire (I can). Being minimally competent at cooking is indeed easy nowadays - a monkey could work a microwave and my cat can open a bag of dry food! Rebuilding an engine or many other mechanical endeavors are hardly useful in day to day life for most of us. Nor are true cooking or home crafts, I guess... I don’t want to get into an argument about it. It just gets my back up when men suggest that the work w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 03:49 PM |
| 2 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?In many ways yes. Men used to work out their stress physically - for women it’s always been more verbal. Men now are discouraged from anything that seems physically aggressive and pushed to talk through their feelings. While I think talking is useful for many men, for many others getting physical is the best way to work things out. I know my dad, who grew up in the 50s and 60s, said arguments and other conflicts were often solved by fist fights and playing rugby - and the camaraderie it created … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 03:41 PM |
| 1 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?I agree with this. The modern world is completely screwed up - people work longer hours and are less happy than ever. Physically life has gotten easier for both men and women. Few men in the West work in highly dangerous and back breaking conditions anymore and few women have to cook and clean in the laborious fashion of our ancestors - or walk miles to collect water and gather berries and tubers (women’s work in more primitive societies). But we all have a lot more psychological stress and pres… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 03:09 PM |
| 9 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?it’s a reaction against a negative stereotype. I’ve never heard someone talk negatively and disrespectfully about the tasks men tend to do - but women’s work has always been framed as easier and less important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 02:48 PM |
| 6 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?Nothing wrong with it. Just don’t expect every women you meet to be ok with it. We all have different inclinations and values. A lot of women simply don’t like the assumption that they will cook and clean - I’m sure many men don’t like the assumption that they will take out the trash, do the yard work and catch the spiders either! It’s just a reaction to stereotypes. We’re all individuals and prefer to be treated as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 12:02 PM |
| 18 | [Q4BP] Why is it bad to want a woman who will cook and clean?If you think cooking is just ‘pushing buttons on the oven’ then you’re doing it wrong! Also cleaning is not necessarily easy - it depends on the size of the house and how messy the person/people are. And whether you have pets and/or children. The things is, you don’t have to do the manual labor every day. If you are responsible for all the home chores for two or more people then it’s never ending and pretty tedious - especially if you aren’t a natural at it and don’t enjoy it. I’ve always liked … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/18 11:56 AM |
| 5 | Do exclusively (100%) heterosexual women even exist?I’ve never had any sexual attraction or fantasies about women. It’s not utterly repulsive, but I’ve never felt desire for female sexual connection. Porn seems to have a lot of sexually fluid actresses and I think that makes it look like women are pretty open to sex with other women. I think there are plenty of ‘gay for pay’ type women in porn who pretend to be really into other women but actually aren’t. The amount of girl-girl porn is a reflection of men’s desire to see two women much more than… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/18 06:39 PM |
| 3 | Feminism and and prostitutionThis is a good examination of the research into decriminalizing prostitution and its effects I know in New Zealand (admittedly a small country with only one prosecuted case of human trafficking I can find) that the decriminalization of prostitution has been successful Sure, slavery is slavery, but surely you can appreciate that being forced to perform sex acts in often unsanitary conditions is worse than cleaning houses or working construction for very little pay and having their passports taken… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/18 09:09 AM |
| 13 | Feminism and and prostitutionWe have decriminalized prostitution in New Zealand and it works very well. Personally, I have no problem with legitimate sex work if it’s the woman’s informed choice and she isn’t being forced into it by pimps (male and female) who got her hooked on drugs and separated from any true friends and family. Not all feminists are anti sex work, though many seem to be. You make a good point about human trafficking. It affects men and women. I live in the Arabian Gulf and there are many laborers and dom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/18 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Why is Female Positivity Disparaged?It’s certainly not in the spirit of feminism as I always defined it - but that seems not to be the main thrust of feminism today anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 09:41 PM |
| 1 | Why is Female Positivity Disparaged?I agree that it all seems to be a race to no one needing anyone basically - like we should all be completely self centered individuals with no need for a partner in life. It’s incredibly sad and certainly goes against human biology. I’m a very introverted woman who has traveled and lived on my own quite a lot - although aspects of being alone are great, overall, I know I’m happier with a man to share things with and to know has my back, as I have his. That’s just natural. Sometimes I fight it be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women Post a picture of what you consider to be an average manMy mum gets mistaken for my dad on the phone! My voice is not high pitched, but I’ve never been mistaken for a man thankfully - I think that would hurt! So you don’t like Scarlett Johansson’s or Cate Blanchett’s voices? Plenty of men seem to find deeper female voices pretty sexy...When I think higher pitched I usually think annoying with women or men - Minka Kelly is like a female equivalent to David Beckham - she’s gorgeous, but her voice is annoying. Maybe a breathy, sweet voice like Marilyn M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 08:36 PM |
| 2 | Curious question - do you think, for the average man, cold approaching women might net better success than online dating?Yes, exactly. A man’s presence and voice is so important to me - more important than what I can learn of him in photos and a blurb. I think online dating is hugely problematic for many people, especially men - and also women who are cautious and need more than photos to meet up with a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 01:49 PM |
| 4 | Question for all, do you believe “Ben (hairdresser)” when he claims an n count of 50?Why wouldn’t I believe him? He’s probably a fun, confident guy and likely in a social circle where hookups are more common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 08:30 AM |
| 8 | Should women be honest with guys that they friend zone?It depends how clear a guy is about his sexual/romantic interest. Sometimes you assume a friendship when the guy actually wants more and he’s not clear about that. I assume friendship unless a guy is asking me out on my own to dinner, etc - even then I have guy friends who I go out and do stuff with that have never tried for anything more - so I assume they see me platonically, as I do them... I’ve never knowingly led a man on knowing he wants more and using him as an emotional or financial crut… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 07:55 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women Post a picture of what you consider to be an average manYes, even good looking men turn me off if they have squeaky and/or dumb sounding voices (like David Beckham)! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/18 04:30 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: who is responsible for other partner's satisfaction/orgasm? Men? Women? Both?Yeah, it’s true for sure they are probably connected. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 06:45 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: who is responsible for other partner's satisfaction/orgasm? Men? Women? Both?There’s still a lot of embarrassment around masturbation for women. I feel like I grew up hearing lots of talk, slang and jokes about men’s masturbation but next to none about women. It seemed that it was completely expected for men to do it, but sort of unusual for women - which made it seem kind of shameful to admit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 06:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: who is responsible for other partner's satisfaction/orgasm? Men? Women? Both?I get it about the ONS. That makes sense to me. You’re probably right about it being more than just a few men who don’t care about a woman’s pleasure. But I think one thing porn has taught men is to expect a woman to be (seemingly) really enjoying herself - so you’d hope the absence of evident enjoyment would be troublesome. Now we just have to get women to stop faking it so men are met with silence if she’s not into it at all and then she can give him pointers on how to make it better! Does any… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 04:21 PM |
| 6 | Why are women more likely to feel "used" by sex?Quite a few TRPers say that a woman’s value is sex. If that is our value and we give that without expectation of a longer term commitment, then we’re selling ourselves short and feel used. If there is little pleasure in a casual encounter for a woman - which seems to be the case generally (and some men admit they don’t care about a woman’s pleasure with casual sex) then that also makes a woman feel used. It’s not great to have an encounter of any kind with someone and feel you got nothing out of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: who is responsible for other partner's satisfaction/orgasm? Men? Women? Both?Female. Both. Sex should be about mutual pleasure, not masturbation - so I believe you should be interested in your partners pleasure as well as your own. If you’re not getting pleasure, you should communicate that and your partner should make an effort to give it to you. I think nowadays women should feel free to communicate what gets them off with their partner and give themselves a hand if need be too. Female sexual pleasure was framed in a shameful way for a long time in many countries so I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women Post a picture of what you consider to be an average manNot much point in lying :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women Post a picture of what you consider to be an average manThey’re a bit chubby. So am I. I wouldn’t call any of them truly fat. Do I like slim men too? Yes, but there’s a range I guess and those guys are not out of it. I’m also realistic - I don’t expect all men to look like athletes and I don’t expect athletic looking men to find unathletic me very attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 02:19 PM |
| 1 | Q4Women Post a picture of what you consider to be an average manI’d have to talk to them to actually judge completely (I have a thing for voices!), but their looks are good in my books. They’re not ugly, they’re ‘normal’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Q4Women Post a picture of what you consider to be an average manYeah. I think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/18 04:53 AM |
| 3 | Q4Women Post a picture of what you consider to be an average manThese people are average to me And these guys | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/18 11:29 AM |
| 1 | It is impossible for an average guy to date a hot girl in America.They all look average to me. Nothing wrong with them apart from being a little overweight - which is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/18 07:06 AM |
| 4 | It is impossible for an average guy to date a hot girl in America.Most of those men have a lot more money than the women - or have high status in another profession. They’re attractive to the women because of that, not because of their appearance. Oh, and maybe personality has something to do with it too! lol Also, some of those women are more average than hot, in my eyes - and some of those men are not ugly but average too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/18 04:37 AM |
| 6 | It is impossible for an average guy to date a hot girl in America.I think it’s mostly in the media and porn - a fantasy for men. Men in films often have women hotter and younger than themselves - only a few men in real life actually attract young, hot women. Average women usually don’t get hot men either...generally everyone ends up with someone on the same ‘level’ as them. I don’t really see why that’s surprising. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/18 04:31 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Male sexuality is Predatory, Opportunistic, and Exploitative. AMALT.Well that’s why I said in my later reply on the chain that we need to find a balance that gives women the autonomy they want but also doesn’t push men into giving up. I don’t know the answer - hopefully as time passes adjustments will be made towards greater balance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 08:34 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Male sexuality is Predatory, Opportunistic, and Exploitative. AMALT.I’m saying the opposite - women having more freedom of choice means less appealing men get less sex. Sorry if I didn’t word it clearly. Certainly the human race would be much less advanced without male drive - although male drive is not entirely about females, it’s also about men competing against each other for status. This obviously brings more females, but men do those things for broader reasons too, surely? I completely acknowledge that without the tendency of men to be assertive and forward… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 05:20 PM |
| 11 | CMV: Male sexuality is Predatory, Opportunistic, and Exploitative. AMALT.You really think women would never initiate sex and let the human race die out? That’s just completely untrue. I think OP is being a bit extreme and sweeping, but this assertion that men initiate everything and there’d be no procreation otherwise is patently false. Men initiating just makes it easier for us - but if they stopped, then we’d take it over and choose the best men to breed with. It would leave a lot of less appealing men in the cold, which is what all the aggressive male sexuality ev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 04:23 PM |
| 2 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?Really? That’s your perspective, I don’t think there’s anything delusional about it. Men who are not conventionally attractive but have charisma and status have a chance with women. That’s all I was saying. And ONSs certainly aren’t for everyone - how is that delusional? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 07:48 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.No of course not! Just acknowledging I’m another sentient being is the basis of respect :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 07:39 AM |
| 2 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?Ok then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 05:45 AM |
| 1 | What are your thoughts on the new Netflix documentary Liberated: The New Sexual Revolution?I know - they were so...punchable!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Why is the desire for rough sex so ubiquitous in women, but rarely, if ever, talked about?Yes, I think there has to be a full embodiment of the assertive, masculine persona - not just an attempt by a coy guy to be physically dominating. I wouldn’t trust that. Dominating men would enjoy dominating anyone/anything - that’s a cornerstone personality trait. It’s very attractive when it’s not extreme. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 05:43 AM |
| 1 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?It doesn’t take months to recharge - and I can be ok at small talk, I just don’t like it. I reflect other people - how they talk to me is how I talk back to them. I anticipate their mood and can tell when they’re uncomfortable - so I might make smalltalk with such a person to put them more at ease. Maybe I’m a rare introvert - INFJ if you give any credence to MBTI - I tend to have a deep love, care and interest for other people but I don’t need interaction with them and can be by myself for long… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 05:38 AM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.Well yes - having consideration for me as a person with a brain as well as female body parts is respectful. Seeing me as a vessel for their pleasure and not caring who I am or how I feel about that is not respectful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 05:32 AM |
| 3 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.I would argue that being followed around, brushed against and masturbated in front of without consent are all quite threatening behaviors that it’s reasonable for me to feel those men are not men I want to get closer too. Do I have to actually be raped to justify my mistrust of these men? Women get told to be more cautious - that they shouldn’t have trusted a man who eventually assaulted her. But then we’re also told we’re too suspicious and it’s hurting men...See where this gets complicated and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/18 05:18 AM |
| 4 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.You can tell things about people without it being very obvious - especially if you’re very observant and ‘read’ body language and expressions well. It might seem like mind reading, but there’s science behind some people’s seemingly spooky intuition. And I’ve had two men follow me around a shop - amazingly at the end of every aisle even as I moved back and forth, and still staring that possessive stare. I’ve also had men brush past me when they had no need to get so close. Two or three men starin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 09:37 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.I always smile when I make eye contact with someone - and break away quickly if I see ‘dead’ eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 09:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.I don’t quite understand...? Looking at an ass is seldom predatory - it’s more interest and maybe appreciation? Not possessiveness... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 09:12 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.It’s really not, but I doubt I can convince you otherwise. Maybe it’s some sort of hyper-awareness of facial expressions, or maybe I sometimes misjudge - but being looked at in a predatory way is very real and comes from conventionally attractive men as well as less attractive ones. It’s also cultural as I’ve lived for years in the Gulf and men in this region and from Afghanistan/Pakistan and India frequently look at me like this. I doubt men ever get looked at like this, so it’s hard to explain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 09:10 PM |
| 1 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?Ok, either I’ve been completely mistyped as an introvert (unlikely) or we’re using different definitions. Maybe the difference is male vs female introverts. I’m very empathetic - always have been despite not socializing a lot growing up. Having social skills and being sociable are different things. I’m an introvert who socializes well when I choose to. It’s exhausting only if it’s too often and for too long - I can control that. As long as I have ‘me time’ I don’t find it necessary to avoid soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 09:04 PM |
| 6 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.Sure. But I’ve been stared at this way plenty of times and not once has it felt ok no matter how the man looks. It’s flattering to be looked at admiringly - but there’s a difference between that and being looked at with nothing but an almost predatory lust. I haven’t been attracted to any of those men and that’s because of how they looked at me - even men I might otherwise find visually appealing - as soon as I see their eyes like that, it’s just creepy. That’s how I see it anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Why is the desire for rough sex so ubiquitous in women, but rarely, if ever, talked about?Well, I don’t deny gender differences at all and i would put myself on the left of the political spectrum in most regards. But I’m conservative in some ways and extremely liberal in others. Anyway, I think the thing that matters most is the underlying security you feel with that man. It’s hard to explain, but I believe some people do give off an aura, so to speak, of untrustworthiness and that would make being grabbed by the throat very scary. I can’t really equate this to how a man looks - it’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 05:51 PM |
| 2 | How malleable is personality?This study was published yesterday - there’s certainly evidence to suggest genes play a role in personality, specifically empathy here, but it certainly isn’t set in stone. I think behaviors can change as we grow and mature. If you’ve always had low self esteem, but you start to have success (like the wife starting a business) this may bring out personality traits that have been hidden under self doubt for many years. I can certainly imagine that if you fell in love with and married someone who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 03:50 PM |
| 14 | CMV: There is no "non-objectifying", "feminist-friendly" way of getting laid.Well, plenty of men do seem to get laid without being labeled as harassers, creeps or jerks - so there must be some way. If you just want sex and no other connection at all, then being a young, bold, good looking guy at known hookup clubs or on tinder is your best bet. You better not have illusions about sweet, totally feminine women in that scene though - they don’t participate. That shouldn’t matter if you just want sex though anyway. If you’re not confident and attractive then there are sex w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 03:16 PM |
| 1 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?I think you’re confusing introversion with low empathy/social ability. If someone is introverted and also has a low EQ, then that is indeed a huge disadvantage. Having low EQ is certainly more common in men, that is where their disadvantage lies - coupled with introversion not driving a person to seek out social interactions, it’s definitely harmful. But you can be an extrovert with poor social skills and shyness and an introvert with good social skills and self confidence. Being an introvert si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 12:03 PM |
| 1 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?By ‘take over a room’ do you mean be the centre of attention? Because I’ve done that and I’m a woman... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 10:10 AM |
| 2 | Why is the desire for rough sex so ubiquitous in women, but rarely, if ever, talked about?Just the fact that Fifty Shades is so popular means there’s some discussion about a large proportion of women being into rough or dominating sex. Personally, I think many women fantasize about it, but few actually engage in it. Hair pulling, slapping and choking are all not at all appealing to me and I think many women would feel the same way. I certainly don’t think those acts ‘staples of female desire’. Porn certainly makes them seem ubiquitous - but porn is not an accurate reflection of most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/18 03:23 AM |
| 3 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?I tend to get along better with other introverts for the same reason. They seem to have more depth and take longer to reveal all their facets - I find that more appealing than the generally more open-book types who are usually extroverts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/18 06:35 PM |
| 7 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?Yes exactly. I thought that myself years ago. It casts introversion as negative and extroversion as positive, which isn’t at all fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/18 06:09 PM |
| 5 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?Undateable would be mostly about attitude to me. If you’re short, fat and/or ugly (within reason) but have a bright, confident personality and good social skills, then you’re in with a shot. For a ONS? I don’t do them. I’d imagine it’s the same kind of thing though - and about how into ONSs the woman is and also probably how drunk she is...women wear beer goggles too, ime. Basically though, I think ONSs are for certain types of people - generally outgoing, average to attractive folks with low in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/18 05:24 PM |
| 2 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?I am an introvert but very socially conscious and very good with people. Being an introvert really doesn’t have to harm your romantic chances and I think it has to be much more than ‘regular introversion’ to stop someone from interacting romantically with others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/18 05:12 PM |
| 22 | What is the biggest drawback a man can have if he wants an active sex life?Introversion gets such a bad rap. You can be introverted but have great social skills and actually be sociable - it simply means you don’t derive energy from others and you need alone time to recharge. Of course, extreme introversion coupled with shyness and a lack of social skills is definitely going to hurt your chances, because then you don’t even try to connect with others. I think lack of social skills is a much, much bigger hurdle in dating than introversion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/03/18 05:07 PM |
| 3 | Physical attractiveness.This makes complete sense to me! Well said :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 06:43 PM |
| 9 | What are your thoughts on the new Netflix documentary Liberated: The New Sexual Revolution?You and I both know life and the choices we make in it are not that simple. We are influenced by our upbringing, culture, media and peers. Saying it’s easy to behave contrary to all that is disingenuous. Most people choose the easy route in life - they aren’t trailblazers ready to stick their necks out. Many of the guys were unhappy and pressured too. They also weren’t sticking their necks out - just going along with the herd, being entitled jerks - just as the girls were being slutty. And most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 05:30 PM |
| 17 | What are your thoughts on the new Netflix documentary Liberated: The New Sexual Revolution?I watched it. It was depressing and made me so glad I was never part of that culture. Basically, it’s a few people really being comfortable with hooking up and loads of people using booze to be like those people, but feeling uncomfortable about it underneath. Peer pressured into emulating the cool, insensitive, extrovert exhibitionists - kind of how it’s always been when you’re young, except more celebrated and accepted now than ever. The girls felt their only value was in how they looked and ho… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/18 03:52 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Since youth, women are taught to demand and men are taught to give. That's where the most relationship problems come from.This has nothing to do with the topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 11:08 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Since youth, women are taught to demand and men are taught to give. That's where the most relationship problems come from.How does that impact the amount of work they do at home or the amount of thoughtfulness they bring to a relationship? Earning more doesn’t necessarily equal working harder or longer hours... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 11:06 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Since youth, women are taught to demand and men are taught to give. That's where the most relationship problems come from.This is my experience for sure. In NZ growing up you generally looked at women who didn’t do all that as lazy. I don’t think much has changed, except household chores are a little more equally divided - but women still do most of it. I think because we grew up like that it would be hard to let that go too - it’s not only that men don’t offer, it’s that many women also don’t demand it or are not happy with the way a man does things (which is the case for me - I do it best, so I tend to take it al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 03:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Since youth, women are taught to demand and men are taught to give. That's where the most relationship problems come from.Yep | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 03:39 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Since youth, women are taught to demand and men are taught to give. That's where the most relationship problems come from.I’m white - from New Zealand, of Irish and Italian extraction. This is just how I experienced things growing up and I saw the majority of girls my age (born in the mid 80s) experiencing the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 03:39 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Since youth, women are taught to demand and men are taught to give. That's where the most relationship problems come from.New Zealand | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 03:31 PM |
| 1 | I am a guy who’s 21 and doesn’t have his shit togetherI don’t have my shit together and I’m 34! Many, many people are struggling to make sense of life. It’s very tough. We all put on masks to make ourselves look more together and capable than we are. You’re not alone and most of the girls you want are probably going to be in a similar situation. It’s getting past the facade that’s hard. Personally I’d advise you to not lie or be too on guard. It’s not RP approved, but IMO, showing some vulnerability is attractive in a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 11:03 AM |
| 26 | CMV: Since youth, women are taught to demand and men are taught to give. That's where the most relationship problems come from.This is not true where I come from. Kind of the opposite in fact. As a girl I was taught to bend over backwards for others and not to be demanding. Their comfort was more important than mine. And it was unseemly for girls to be demanding of anyone - you were labeled ‘difficult’ and maybe a bitch (as you got older) for being a demanding female - while boys seemed to be encouraged to push the boundaries and be demanding. I grew up seeing my mother and my aunts and friends mothers all do the vast m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/18 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Feeling insecure about my height. Give it to me straight!It’s not a problem at all to me. My dad is your height and build (is it weird to being my dad into this!?) and several guys I know are - it’s only slightly below average. Thick build is quite attractive to me - not really fat, but ‘solid’, is good. I probably wouldn’t date a guy shorter than me, but I’ve never been approached by one and wouldn’t completely rule it out - but I’m 5’4”. Height is honestly something I do find a factor in attractiveness, tall guys are often physically appealing to me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/18 02:38 PM |
| 3 | Why is male circumcision, not taken as seriously as it should be?You can’t really compare FGM to circumcision, but several European countries have made moves to ban circumcision for non medical or religious reasons (Iceland looks set to become the first country to ban it unless it’s medically necessary). It’s never been common in Europe, outside of Muslim and Jewish communities. Many people do take it seriously as a form of physical assault on a minor. In Germany there was a lot of controversy about it a few years ago as Cologne decided it could be a case of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/18 05:17 AM |
| 1 | Male Virginity and ShameWe weren’t talking about slut shaming - but I agree, it’s a similar thing. I think men slut shame women more than women shame male virgins though - at least online. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/18 09:12 AM |
| 2 | Male Virginity and ShameI think other men shame male virgins a lot - probably more than women, but maybe it’s equal. I’ve talked to men who said they were relentlessly shamed by their friends at 16 for being virgins and wanting to wait for the right girl. Unless you’re mostly around other like minded people who are celibate for religious reasons, it’s something that is seen as strange. Some people will always shame those they perceive as being outside the norm. Not everyone will care though. I’m sorry you’ve had girls … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/18 04:33 AM |
| 1 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersI’m sorry about that. Sounds like she had deeper issues with trust and anxiety than just being introverted. If I like people, I can open up almost immediately - I just trust my intuition and I’m usually a good judge of character early on. But with some people I never open up because I feel they will judge me or push me too hard towards what they want me to be. I tend not to spend time with those people, obviously. And they go beyond extroverts - they’re usually arrogant and controlling too. They… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/18 05:25 AM |
| 2 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersHow do you dump someone gradually? That sounds kind of painful! 30 partners would likely be too much unless I really loved the guy and he was quite a few years older than me - and most of the n count mounted in his ‘sow them wild oats’ years! It’s probably a bit extreme though. I’ve never been with a man who had such a high n count. 10 might be more reasonable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/18 05:21 AM |
| 1 | CMV: a big seldom discussed part of the problem with the SMP is that mate guarding is no longer socially acceptableWell, yeah - but casual talking and hitting on someone are usually pretty easy to distinguish. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/18 05:15 AM |
| 5 | CMV: a big seldom discussed part of the problem with the SMP is that mate guarding is no longer socially acceptableI wouldn’t have much respect for a man who let other guy’s hit on me and did/said nothing...just as I wouldn’t sit back if some woman was coming onto him! I didn’t realize it wasn’t socially acceptable to tell someone where to go if they blatantly hit on your gf/bf? Starting a bar brawl over it would be extreme, but just doing nothing? Really? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/18 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersI think it depends on the individuals, but often I’ve found highly extroverted people tend to overshadow me too much. I never feel comfortable enough with them to be myself - I end up forcing myself to be what they want and that can only last so long before I feel used and rejected for who I am. Very extroverted people can be impatient when getting to know others when they are not so forthcoming, or figure an introvert is shy and just needs pushing to get over it (the worst!!) Of course there ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/18 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersPrecisely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/18 06:06 PM |
| 2 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersThanks :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/18 03:52 PM |
| 3 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersSure, sorry, I guess I mean extroverted and a bit exhibitionist maybe? Plenty of extroverts are quiet people - they just get energy from socializing, whereas I tend to get drained by it. If a guy is an extrovert, but not an in your face, party-all-night-kind of person, then we get on well. Usually people who are very sociable and outgoing find me a bit annoying and vice versa - our social needs are just too different. I’ve been described as an extroverted introvert, because I have very good inte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/18 03:52 PM |
| 5 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersI guess not. It depends entirely on the man. Just in my experience I tend to get on better with lower n count men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/18 03:42 PM |
| 67 | Why A Woman's Sexual Past MattersI’m a female in my early 30s with a very low n count and I honestly prefer men to have a low n count too. It’s just more likely to reflect a personality that gels with mine - reserved, introverted and a bit dreamy. I associate high n count with a more aggressive, superficial and extroverted personality. I can totally respect that some men place a high value on a woman’s n count, but I think men should respect that some women also place a high value on a man’s. And also of course that many people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/03/18 02:00 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Given your personality, do you think you might have been better off if you were born the opposite gender?My natural personality is definitely female - I struggle in many ways to be what this modern world expects me to be - a mix of feminine and masculine traits, with an emphasis on the more traditionally masculine mindset. I’m unambitious, nurturing, compassionate, sensitive, agreeable and quite prone to neuroticism. Trying to fit into a competitive and often ruthless job market doesn’t suit me well. But being a ‘traditional’ woman is frowned upon by my friends and family and society in general. I’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/18 03:19 PM |
| 2 | Who does feminism truly stand for?I’m vegan and I’ve never once heard it associated with feminism...some people make no sense! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 10:09 AM |
| 1 | How are men strategizing about women seen as manipulative and fake?All those tactics sound fine - but you and I both know there are more shady tactics espoused by many PUAs. Negging and LMR for example. Doesn’t mean all guys employ them, but when they do, they are definitely manipulative jerks on the wrong side of morality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 05:00 AM |
| 1 | How are men strategizing about women seen as manipulative and fake?I get it. I don’t see it as manipulative to think these things through and behave this way. I think some things happen naturally in life (and dating) but most need planning and direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/18 06:09 PM |
| 3 | How are men strategizing about women seen as manipulative and fake?You know what? You’re right in most respects. I was mostly reacting to the whole make up thing as not being analogous to specific, calculated behaviors. We do change over time, we must - and we do wear different masks to greater and lesser degrees of coverage to different people in our lives. But I think there are some constants in viewpoint or behavior that don’t change - or really shouldn’t change. Your moral compass maybe? Essential boundaries you just don’t cross? I’ve always been careful ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/18 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why are you on redpill/manosphere?Yes, I can understand this well. A lot of people give advice that is basically just regurgitated from others and they don’t really think about you as individual and what works for you. They’re saying it in many ways to make themselves feel that they’re helping you and they can tick you off their list. If someone really understands you and wants to help you best, they just give you their presence. I’m glad you had a friend like that at such a difficult time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/18 05:56 PM |
| 6 | How are men strategizing about women seen as manipulative and fake?Come on man, make up is hardly equivalent to PUA tactics! It’s the equivalent to guys using hair gel or dye, or having fashionable facial hair, tattoos or piercings. Or maybe lifts in shoes...?It’s physical adornment, Not behavioral affectation. Many women do other manipulative and fake things, for sure - playing dumb and helpless, for one...But make up (and bras - well maybe the 3 cup sizes bigger ones are very dishonest!...) are not equivalent to deeply considered manipulation strategies to ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/18 03:15 PM |
| 9 | How are men strategizing about women seen as manipulative and fake?I think it kind of depends on the extent of the strategy and manipulation. What you described I would just call ‘planning for the best’. You’re not tricking her or pressuring her - you’re just making things line up nicely to hopefully go the way you want them to go. Nothing wrong with that and I doubt any grown woman would find it surprising or manipulative. It’s manipulative and fake if you employ PUA techniques to try to psychologically trip her up and pressure her into sex and you also behave… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/18 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Why are you on redpill/manosphere?I relate to plenty of this and I’m a woman! I too learned early that I don’t experience the world like most other people (HSP, empath, introvert with an atypical, isolated upbringing) and I certainly don’t see it the way most people do. I feel often that there’s something very wrong with me because I don’t understand where most people come from on many issues. I don’t get their priorities or apathies. I feel like an observer making notes on an alien species a lot of the time - in this world, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/18 09:41 AM |
| 1 | CMV: most young, sensitive men with anxious attachment styles are doomed to either remain unsuccessful or act against their true nature.Honestly, as an anxious, introverted, avoidant HSP woman I can say life is pretty darn hard for me too. The world is in many respects hostile to such people - if we want to succeed in the same way the majority seem to (or seem capable of) we have to change ourselves quite dramatically. I do think it is harder to be an HSP, introverted anxious man though - society either pities such women or just kinds of ignores us. I think men get a lot more pressure to be emotionally stoic, aggressive and basi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/02/18 04:12 AM |
| 1 | What is the point to living for 80% of men if they just languish in an asexual hell? What is the point to living without sexual success?Good thing I’m not a guy and I enjoyed it. It was nice to just be by myself, tbh. But I am very introverted and self sufficient, so I think I tolerate sexual isolation better than most women even. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/18 04:24 PM |
| 1 | What is the point to living for 80% of men if they just languish in an asexual hell? What is the point to living without sexual success?Even sadder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/18 03:02 PM |
| 1 | What is the point to living for 80% of men if they just languish in an asexual hell? What is the point to living without sexual success?Well that’s sad...I’m sorry you feel that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/18 01:19 PM |
| 1 | What is the point to living for 80% of men if they just languish in an asexual hell? What is the point to living without sexual success?Over a year - I was traveling almost the whole time and I’m not interested in hookups. A vibrator was enough for me sexually and I was fulfilled with traveling and having lots of new experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/18 01:17 PM |
| 1 | What is the point to living for 80% of men if they just languish in an asexual hell? What is the point to living without sexual success?This exactly. Life has many other avenues for success and fulfillment outside of sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/18 07:25 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.I guess that’s true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 05:46 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: U.S. Mass Shootings and expectations of masculinity in the dating marketplace.Well, yes, parents need to bear the most burden in introducing their kids to healthier lifestyles - I should have mentioned that. It seems to me though that lots of parents these days are kind of hands off - let the school and internet raise them! Those people shouldn’t really be parents - but eugenics is another matter! Stoicism seems to also be a cultural thing, not just a gender thing. I’m very stoic because most New Zealanders are - there’s a very can-do, grit your teeth streak in the countr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: U.S. Mass Shootings and expectations of masculinity in the dating marketplace.Basically, mental illness needs a lot more attention paid to it across the board. The way it is marginalized and characterized as pure weakness by many is completely unhelpful and hurtful. If young people struggling with depression, anxiety and low self esteem had more support around them and were able to speak about it without stigma, a lot of these incidents wouldn’t happen. Girls often have horrible problems with self esteem too, but are more likely to turn their anger in at themselves and se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 09:08 AM |
| 7 | Women enjoy casual sex far more than they let on.Women do say that and get shit for being ‘difficult’, ‘fickle’ or ‘cock-teasing’. And if we feel better later and do want to have sex, then we’re ‘indecisive’ again and are inviting being badgered into sex and no doesn’t mean no...we can’t freaking win simply because we’re not 100% sexually available exactly when we’re wanted... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 08:05 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: U.S. Mass Shootings and expectations of masculinity in the dating marketplace.Ok, this is gonna be long! I think this applies more to more common forms of crime than mass shootings. You have to be more than frustrated and in crisis about masculinity to kill dozens of people. Those men have mental illnesses - there is no true ‘reason’ behind their violence. Now the many men who are in prison for less serious crimes could well be hugely affected by what you’re talking about. I have discussions with my dad about masculinity as it’s something he has struggled with over his 68… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 03:51 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.I don’t know. Not all woman do. I don’t like the way many women equate overt sexuality with empowerment - I think it’s generally just peer pressure and wanting to compete to be visible to guys. I don’t get how that’s ‘empowering’ - the opposite really. Lots of young guys these days expect barely there clothes and overtly sexual behavior from girls - if the girls don’t do it, they’re almost invisible compared to their hyper-sexy peers. And guys are pressured into chasing those kinds of girls by t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 03:18 AM |
| 8 | Women enjoy casual sex far more than they let on.You’re completely twisting this. There are many reasons why a woman could reasonably change their mind about sex over the course of an evening. It doesn’t have to be a ‘lack of self worth or boundaries’. Arousal for women often takes time and is affected by things men don’t contend with - or are not so affected by. Women are more self conscious - if we are bloated from eating, have been sweaty and are worried about how we smell, if we have PMS or our period, if we just don’t feel sexy early on b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 03:12 AM |
| 2 | Women enjoy casual sex far more than they let on.Ok, if that’s what you think, fine. I just don’t know why you ask us questions if you won’t give any credence to the answers... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 03:06 AM |
| 15 | Women enjoy casual sex far more than they let on.Why do you distrust what women say so much? You asked a question, we replied, but you’re discounting what we said in favor of your own opinion. Why ask at all if you’re not willing to truly listen? There’s just no point at all in conversing with someone who seems to believe their opinion is fact and the people/person they’re conversing with is either lying or deluding themselves. I stand by my reply to your previous question. Sex for me is best with someone I know and trust. Therefore casual sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Women enjoy casual sex far more than they let on.That sounds hellish to me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.I pretty much agree with this. Men are both what can make the world safer for women and what can make it more dangerous. Men seem to be the gatekeepers to our safety and women seem to be the gatekeepers to men’s happiness... It’s rather sad when you look at it that way. Of course, many men also live in a world where other men ensure their safety without them being cognizant of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.Haha! Very true! They certainly seem to be a lot more obsessed with what a ‘real’ man is that women are - and the traits they describe are often off putting to most women. They certainly seem like the real lovers of men... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 09:57 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.Could be right! Though wouldn’t a lot of redpill men think being roughed up by a woman is not in the spirit of being the ‘Alpha’ they wish to be? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 09:20 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.Ok, I get it with the role play. BDSM is a form of role play too. I didn’t know you only meant the dress up naughty teacher stuff. You’re a man though. Men are usually much bigger risk takers than women. I will take rough sex with someone I trust and who cares about me, over sex with some hot dude I don’t know who really could be dangerous and treats me roughly...But some women are big risk takers too - to me it’s risky to have any kind of sex with someone I don’t know, I’m not that kind of girl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 06:32 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.No, but it can give the illusion of danger - i.e. rape role play, being called a whore, tied up, slapped, choked, etc. It’s exciting, maybe painful and definitely at someone’s mercy - but you know that person isn’t actually raping you. They care about you, they respect you but they are doing things that you can pretend are risky and dangerous. What’s the alternative? Actual rape or abuse? Most people don’t get off on real danger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 06:04 AM |
| 3 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.You can have a little ‘danger’ and unpredictability in sex with someone you’re comfortable with - that’s what roleplaying is for. You just know that when it comes down to it, the other person truly cares that you enjoy yourself and don’t feel genuinely afraid or abused. If you want it to stop you can trust them to stop. What some men around here seem to get confused about is that they believe women like truly dangerous sex - meaning they want a guy they hardly know to get rough without warning a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 04:56 AM |
| 5 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.My boobs don’t attract more attention than a woman with a bubble butt...does that count also? Plenty of men nowadays seem to prefer small boobs and pretty much all of them prefer a frame smaller than the average DDer+ has... Anyway, I know where you’re going with it - we could say the same thing about any attractive partner having a higher likelihood of straying due to higher ‘demand’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/18 05:49 PM |
| 19 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.The best sex is with a guy you feel completely at ease with. I only feel that with a long term guy, not that I’ve had much experience otherwise. It just makes sense to me that the best sex is when you let go of all inhibitions, try out new things and have fun. I can only be that way with someone I really trust and that takes time... But, that’s just me. I can’t speak for all women. None of my friends have ever talked about sex with a ONS or short term fling as being preferable to their long term… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/18 05:34 PM |
| 3 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.Jawline’s matter when deciding if a man is LTR worthy? Guess that’s one of those subconscious things...And why would DDs make a worse housewife on average? Does boob size correlate with sluttiness or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/18 05:28 PM |
| 1 | The Problem with “No Means No” is Men always Think it’s Negotiable.I am PromCrom but I had a problem with my account so had to create a new one! Infuriating! Anyway, I agree with what you said completely. Guys shouldn’t be in prison over honest mistakes or sex acts that may not have had explicit consent, but were enjoyed anyway. It is all about context. I doubt anyone would accuse you of sexual battery for the no prep anal you described. If you were both enjoying it and she hadn’t explicitly said ‘never do that’, then fine! I’m glad it worked out. (Rather impre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/18 07:34 AM |
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