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This is now become too... something... to waste my time with. I would need to spend hours addressing every ... thing you said and it still wouldn't matter. But one of your interpretations stuck out to me. You deny that countries that had empires for centuries in recent history are objectively richer? Empires they enriched themselves at the expense of of others? Yes of course you aren't an emperor you fucken brainlet. But you live in a country that is much richer and more powerful. You dollars wh…
/r/AntiFeminists22/04/22 05:21 AM
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I spent an hour writing a long reply and got halfway through addressing your points. Up to the nationalism bit. But all disappeared when I opened google to define tribalism. I might come back and address your points properly later. But I can’t be fucked after losing it all once. I will say seem well read, but some of your based assumptions lead to very different conclusions. As some of your definitions of terms. But you obviously think the same thing about me so that wouldn’t be much of surprise…
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 11:30 AM
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Liberty comes from the word liber which means free. Liberals are also free, liberal arts study is free thinking. Depends what you are trying to be free from. Freedom is American is a different thing. They are obviously many interpretations of words and different ideologies and cultures build different things into the meaning of words. Freedom is American is more about individualism. No or little government intervention in personal or business matters. It is about being a cowboy, taking care of y…
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 07:53 AM
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Yeah Saudi Arabia is a more extreme version of patriarchy. I thought you were using that like most people in the thread to say because a more extreme version exists. It invalidates all least extreme examples. Eh I think it’s funny. Like if you are doing something bad. Pointing to someone doing something worse doesn’t mean your thing is ok. But yeah seems like a misunderstanding I am debating 10 people in the thread while watching tv. My comments aren’t all winners. But also depending who you are…
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 07:42 AM
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No, one of the definitions of patriarchy is the passing of power and processions from father to son. Anti feminists focus on that version of the word and ignore the feminist version because it makes it easier to strawman feminist arguments. You can just argue over definitions. Or compare the current situation to a less favourable one to imply that nothing needs to change because things are already better. Like humans and chimps are both apes but they would argue that humans can’t by classified a…
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 07:36 AM
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I have tried several times to understand the point are making. But it makes no sense to me, likely because you point would be based of a misunderstanding of my position. You deny the concept that words mean different things in different contexts? Or just those particular definitions? For example the word theory is casual conversation means hypothesis. But in the context of science. A theory is a hypothesis that has been tested to the point that is quite a reliable rule. You understand? All the P…
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 07:20 AM
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Yes, why? Why limit it to just the last 30 years? Great pivot. But I’m not interested in debate you idea of what some random feminists said some time. I am debating the points you made. It said of defending limiting the time period to the part that is desirable to you point you just said “well what about them?? They do the opposite!!” It stands to reason that if some gender roles are biological and some are societal, it would be worth exploring how they differ in different societies( and the sim…
/r/AntiFeminists21/04/22 05:43 AM
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I have written the same point half a dozen times around this dumb thread. Men are like Jews in ww2 because men aren’t the minority group. Implying that being a man like being a holocaust jew is ludicrous. It is good that you acknowledge not all feminists are extreme. It is likely a lot less that you think given that basic ideas are very mainstream. And you follow communities like this that show you the worst most extreme ones all the time. The ones who ideas barely have to be fought because they…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 06:13 PM
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You think gay men support the patriarchy?
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 06:02 PM
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I thought it was funny. Well. maybe humour is subjective.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 06:01 PM
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The mental gymnastics is me doing an example of the guy on your sides statement? I was just demonstrating his point. So I will graciously decline the medal so he can claim the validation for his dumb idea.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 05:58 PM
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Is feminism based on socialism? If so how? Feminism is “left wing”. Feminism is pretty fucking mainstream dude. Part of normal everyday centre right politics. Left wing sounds like some fringe ideas that most people wouldn’t agree with. But this entire sub seems dedicated to how too many people are embracing feminist ideas. So that would seem to imply that whether an idea or movement is left wing or right wing would have more to do with what the current mainstream social and political norms are.…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 05:49 PM
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Wow, imagine. The point is I took a paragraph on negrophobia and replaced the words white and black and replaced them with man and woman. The fact that you didn’t seem to notice is concerning. Hint. There are no female languages and men haven’t been colonised but European women. Good gravy. Again, it is a terrible comparison because women women aren’t the group dominate power group in society. And men are historically marginalised like the black community in Eurocentric societies.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 04:31 PM
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I tried searching for that and all that came up were pictures of you getting fucked by your dad. Is that humour or am I missing something? I’ve never heard of this humour thing. I certainly wasn’t using it when I replaced the references to Jews and nazis with men and women.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 04:21 PM
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Let's try out your men are like Jews in nazi Germany Idea. Just replace the word jew with man right? The claim that there was a manish war against women Germany is an antiman conspiracy theory promoted in woman propaganda which asserts that men, acting as a single historical actor, started World War II and sought the destruction of woman Germany. Alleging that war was declared in 1939 by Chaim Weizmann, president of the World Man Organization, women used this false notion to justify the persecut…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 01:53 PM
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Facts and statistics? Care to share any? Or just quote cringey versions of my mine comments back at me?
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 01:39 PM
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Do you think impersonating something you think is cringe makes you sound cringe? Im in your echo chamber. Do you agree with his point? Can you can you defend his point? Or are you just jumping in to defend him simply because you agree with the narrative he is trying to push? You know like a hypocrite.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 01:37 PM
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Nobody defend your dumb opinions. Close your eyes. Block your ears guys. Nobody learn anything. Were Jews the dominant power group in pre ww2 Germany? Are black people the dominant power group in America and other western countries?
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 01:28 PM
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No you are right. It is a perfect one to one comparison. Lol Let's try it. "The psychiatrist was the first to introduce the concept of menphobia, pointing to the hatred of man people and man culture by man people themselves. Indeed, he asserts that menphobia is a form of "trauma for women people of the man". Equivalent to internalised racism caused by the trauma of living in a culture defining man people as inherently evil, Fanon emphasises the slight existing cultural intricacies caused by the …
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 01:22 PM
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That's not how words work buddy. You just need to learn more things. Similar to how when discussing white privilege. People get hung up on the word privilege and it's association with wealth or "a life without problems". But in that context white privilege refers to the benefits on being white in a white dominant society. In a feminism context it is more like "Patriarchy is a system of relationships, beliefs, and values embedded in political, social, and economic systems that structure gender in…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 01:06 PM
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Do you understand that words mean different things in different contexts? That isn't what patriarchy means in a feminist context.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 12:21 PM
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Why limit it to the last 30 years? Any reason why 1992 would be the time when politics really got started? Like why would you point to only recent decades when feminism started making real progress? Unless you what to cherry pick that period of time to use as the results of fighting the patriarchy as evidence the patriarchy doesn't exist? "We don't need a fire department. The fire department put out my house fire and now my house isn't as on fire as it was before. Regarding female America voters…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 11:20 AM
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Yeah they have worst womens rights. But that is like saying war is what Russia does. Not America. There is a spectrum. And countries devoted to human rights, equality and democracy hold themselves to a higher standard. If your girlfriend gets mad because you cheated on her you can't just go "what about that guy? He is way worse. He cheated on his girlfriend 100 times". It is about the relationship between a country and its people. Not what other countries are doing.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:59 AM
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Nice word salad. I am familiar with the terms but I can't really find a coherent position in them. You wrote a paragraph on how left wing ideologies "fail" because of the required acceptance of a "position on human nature and society." But you never define what you think position this is. Which is a bad argument.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:44 AM
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Oof I though I would be hard to come up with a dumber take than the last guy. God damn. You did it.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:37 AM
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Take being smart and replace the smart part with being and idiot and you have your comment. Lol
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:36 AM
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Which country in Africa are you talking about? South Africa would have white history. It is called south African history. Where they tell the history of events from the perspective of white colonists rather than the colonised. I don't know enough about the 40 or so countries in Africa to get into the specifics of there education system. But maybe the most powerful and rich nations in the world should hold themselves to a higher standard than the poorest countries in the world?
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:33 AM
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Uh yeah. That is because they aren't a minority in Africa. But if you are voting in the country you live in. And people that don't look like you have historically had all the power and made most of the decisions. Then you are a minority. It is about context. For example. You could be in a school where 90 percent of the students are black and you are white. And you will feel different and like see the world a bit different and be treated differently. You would be be of a minority in the context o…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:29 AM
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I mean if you are an idiot than sure. White people would be a minority in Japan. Not in America. Americans don't control things in Japan so they are a minority group IN JAPAN. Black people are a commonly referenced minority in America. But they aren't a minority group in most African countries. In a country like Indonesia where most of the population is Muslim. Christians would be in the minority group. They will have less influence on policy through democracy because there are less of them. Eve…
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:24 AM
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Typo. Women aren't a minority but... rest of the sentence
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:19 AM
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Oh you can't see how things like that could be relevant? Usa is an example. I am from Australia. 2 of our last 25 prime ministers. So 8%. It obviously isn't just a head of the country thing. But Is it unusual that America has had 46 presidents and none of them are women? Maybe male traits are just better suited for leadership?
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 10:18 AM
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Men have a history month. It is called history. It includes every day. It is like someone built a habit on mars and from inside you are saying “I don’t know why people say their is no air on mars. We are breathing right now.” “Why do they call this the red planet? A lady in a blue shirt planted a tree over there.” It is part of being the dominant social group. Which is also why there is a black history month. You only need to point out the exception to the norm. You don’t see or think about the …
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 07:47 AM
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She is just describing a wide variety of porn that isn’t “mainstream” but is a common genre and easy to find. She is taking the women and replacing it with men or boys in attempt to try to get you to empathise with how hectic some of the shit is and how in is an issue that mainly effects women.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 07:18 AM
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Ahh no they aren’t.
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 07:13 AM
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How many of the previous American presidents were men though?
/r/AntiFeminists20/04/22 07:07 AM
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Believe women. The phrase means "don't assume women as a gender are especially deceptive or vindictive, and recognize that false allegations are less common than real ones." "Believe all women" is a controversial alternative phrasing of the expression. Monica Hesse, in The Washington Post, argues that the slogan has always been "believe women", and that the "believe all women" variant is "a bit of grammatical gaslighting", a straw man invented by critics so that it could be attacked, and that th…
/r/MensRights18/04/22 06:32 PM
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Oh yeah? Totalitarians. Good word. Though you should probably brush up on its meaning. Jeez it is almost as if people can do both good and bad things. And aren't entirely good nor bad. Though depending on the social norms of the society some things will be considered bad and some people will want they're be repercussions. It is pretty dumb to go this far. I love my dad. He raised me and helped me so much. But if he killed and raped a person it might create some conflicting feelings for me about …
/r/MensRights18/04/22 06:21 PM
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You say men have a lower life expectancy one sentence and in the following sentence you say they choose more dangerous work and work longer hours? Is it possibly these are contributing factors?
/r/MensRights18/04/22 06:10 PM
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So you get that most the stuff that annoys you is just marketing aimed at women. I don't like diamonds and material bullshit much But your first one is solid. I could see a marketing marketing agency actually using something like that.
/r/MensRights18/04/22 06:03 PM
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Sounds like a thought terminating cliche to me. ⁹The chicken may be at work. And not want to be thought of sexualising. She maybe with friends and not want male attention. She maybe in a relationship. She may not be interested in men or romantic involvement for many reasons. Want you are saying is it is alright for a guy to wink at a girl if she wants it. In order to know if she wants it you would have interact with her and read social ques. Flirt using ambiguity and if you sense reciprocation t…
/r/MensRights18/04/22 06:00 PM
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You understand this is an ad right? Not real life. She is a literal monster. The target also for the this particular art is clearly women. So it is a comedic premise mixed with a power fantasy. Women also get a lot of unwanted attention a 30 sec commercial isn't going to spend a long time establishing how much of a creepy the guy is. Is he is a creepy. If doesn't matter no one died. It is a joke
/r/MensRights18/04/22 05:53 PM
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OK so you are wrong and not even self aware enough to see why. Rather than having well reasoned points you can defend rationally. You are just a reactionary. I know you are too lost in the sauce to cede any ground or even seriously consider any positions besides your current ones. But it would still be enjoyable to debate you. Mainly because it is very easy too debate close minded people that don't have an argument.
/r/AntiFeminists18/04/22 05:45 PM
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Then Explain your case. You have already lost the argument because you have interpreted “toxic masculinity is bad” as the premise of “masculinity is “toxic”. So if that is your stance you have failed to understand the topic at all. If I am misrepresenting your position please clarify.
/r/AntiFeminists18/04/22 05:18 PM
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So all water is sparkling? Do you have anything beyond thought terminating cliches?
/r/AntiFeminists18/04/22 05:10 PM
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There are common traits associated with masculinity. More physical strength, more aggression, physical and social dominance. Being more likely to be the pursuer with the opposite sex. If you get a lot of blokes together the negative sides of this traits can come out easily. Or if a man egos is hurt. I have been in a lot of fights. Maybe a dozen, Did I start any of them? No. It was just from going out in the city at night time. One were young mauri kids who sucker punched me, “because they had ju…
/r/AntiFeminists18/04/22 04:15 PM
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How do you not get the premise after all this time? If I say that I don’t like sparking water. It doesn’t mean that I hate water or that all water is sparking. Do you like men who start fights with you at pubs or on the street?
/r/AntiFeminists18/04/22 04:13 PM
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Why would be pointing out the most negative aspects of masculinity be bad? You believe people can’t differentiate between good and bad behaviour and will assume all masculine traits are toxic?
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/22 05:39 PM
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Isn’t the original post a quote about male victimisation? Why would pointing out the obvious flaws be wallowing in victimisation but not the former?
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/22 05:34 PM
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Ah yes all of that is made up stuff. Yes of course. I’m glad you could dismiss the lived experiences of half the worlds population without even having to think. The smartest people never have to think or address the points the other person makes. I am aware you phrased it as rights because the problems arent address by rights. Different people have different needs yes? If a blind person and a someone able bodied are treated the same is isn’t an equal outcome for example. You really think body ha…
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/22 05:23 PM
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I wouldn’t phrase it is “rights”. Because our societies have worked hard to make sure the written rights cover a reasonable level of equality. But things fall between cracks given that men and women don’t have the same needs. But you didn’t specify any country. There are plenty of places were women are heavily controlled and oppressed. Plenty of sex trafficking even in European cultures. But we can stick to America since that is likely your focus. Men enjoy to right not to be pregnant. And not t…
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/22 04:20 PM
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I'm pretty sure alot of left ideas originate from university discourse and have tonnes of published books and thesis on their topics. It isnt hard to inform yourself of the discourse. What arguments do you find most flawed? We can debated for a bit before I am banned from your echo chamber here lol
/r/AntiFeminists04/02/22 06:27 AM
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What a shit show
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