EstablishmentWaste23 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
57	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved?	Progress	EstablishmentWaste23	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 07:41 PM
1	What's positive or healthy masculinity?	masculinity	EstablishmentWaste23	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/09/24 11:04 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	Teenagers nowadays are horrifying You are an insufferable snowflake, that's all you cocksuckers do in your manospheric subreddits. Generalizing and speaking of all women.	/r/EverydayMisandry	24/09/24 08:47 PM
-8	Typing in "misogyny" vs "misandry" into Google. Interesting... You keep looking at some of these numhers that skew towards women or in favor of them and saying the same thing, without understanding that the only reason it's like that is because of the work of progressives and feminists did to make up for historical disenfranchisement and systemic/systematic mysoginy/patriarchy. The feminsit project is far from done.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	22/09/24 09:01 PM
0	Husband yelling vs wife yelling You got a call in hotline when you searched for "Why is my husband yelling at me"? But something different when you switched 'husband' with 'wife'? Well it's not my experience nor do I believe you're honest.	/r/EverydayMisandry	21/09/24 08:27 PM
0	Husband yelling vs wife yelling I literally just typed the same thing and it gave the same search, Go type "Why is my (significant other) yelling at me". And I don't even agree that it should be the same thing.	/r/EverydayMisandry	21/09/24 07:23 PM
-4	Husband yelling vs wife yelling It's not even the same thing typed, it's just dishonest comparison.	/r/EverydayMisandry	21/09/24 07:18 PM
-3	Is "Male-Dominated" a Misandrist Term? What should we refer to positions disproportionately male occupied then? What's your solution?	/r/EverydayMisandry	17/09/24 02:16 AM
1	What's positive or healthy masculinity? Yeah and that's very honorable and cool right? Or no?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	08/09/24 12:00 AM
1	What's positive or healthy masculinity? You don't think sacrificing yourself to save a woman or a child is a highly honorable undertaking?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	07/09/24 11:50 PM
-3	The KKK believed women, and this led to the lynching murders of thousands of innocent black men The first sentence. There is a difference between a proven fake allegation and an allegation that is fake but not proven. That size of allegations that are fake but not proven fake is likely impossible to determine So is proven rape cases which means the data is basically proportional which means it's accurate, if anything it's rarer to be convicted off of a false accusation than to convict an actual perpetrator because most people who go throught with this are in it in good faith, most people a…	/r/MensRights	07/09/24 12:24 AM
-6	The KKK believed women, and this led to the lynching murders of thousands of innocent black men The rate of false accusations never exceeds 10% from every study, investigation I've looked at, here are some links, pdfs etc... you can read it for yourself and look at the data. https://qz.com/980766/the-truth-about-false-rape-accusations https://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukgwa/20100418065544/homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs05/hors293.pdf https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default/files/2012-03/Publications_NSVRC_Overview_False-Repo…	/r/MensRights	06/09/24 11:27 PM
-13	The KKK believed women, and this led to the lynching murders of thousands of innocent black men If you're talking about the false accusation numbers, the 2% was pulled out of thin air by a Feminist (i.e. bullshit), the 8% was the FBIs rate of provably false accusations (not just "not proven true" as Feminists often like to claim). You cant just invert that and say that 92% are true, in most cases, unfortunately, there isn't enough evidence to say one way or the other. Anyone who claims otherwise is lying to you. "When the data disagrees with me, then the data is wrong and my own incel bitt…	/r/MensRights	06/09/24 10:36 PM
-22	The KKK believed women, and this led to the lynching murders of thousands of innocent black men Would you generally trust a result of anything if the rate of a truthful outcome was between 92% to 98%? If you do then you trust women too. Have a good day.	/r/MensRights	06/09/24 09:49 PM
-1	The phase "feminism is for men too" can't coexist with the oppressed vs oppressor dichotomy. Because it's a major contradiction. You are contradicting with yourself, you are saying men are clear oppressors I'm saying men are the primary oppressors just like white people were the primary oppressors and still are to some extent, because they are the biggest faction who believe in the patriarchal system given their political/cultural leanings and they are the biggest benefactors of it while also saying feminists believe women can be oppressors too and it's more of a system thing than a gender thing. You can be an oppressor i…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	06/09/24 06:33 AM
-13	Feminists don't care about men You think Blm don't care about white people?	/r/MensRights	06/09/24 05:17 AM
0	The phase "feminism is for men too" can't coexist with the oppressed vs oppressor dichotomy. Because it's a major contradiction. you believe in an oppressor oppressed dichotomy Let's say I do, now what? What the fuck did you prove? You don't think whites were clear oppressors in the 60s? Did they also not face some systemic issues unique to them? Let's look at today's world, look at homophobic religious fundamentalist countries where gay people are clearly oppressed by straight people who are the oppressors, does that invalidate the proposition because straight people can still experience systemic issues or discrimination…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	06/09/24 04:56 AM
-4	The phase "feminism is for men too" can't coexist with the oppressed vs oppressor dichotomy. Because it's a major contradiction. Because men are not a group that it's members chose to be a part of but feminism is? you comparing an immutable characteristic to an ideological label. And why does this matter?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	06/09/24 04:46 AM
-4	The phase "feminism is for men too" can't coexist with the oppressed vs oppressor dichotomy. Because it's a major contradiction. But my point is that in theory a lot of Feminists Why are yoi generalizing feminists but refuse it to people who do it to men? Since they view men as the oppressors. They view traditional conservative women as oppressors too, to themselves and to other women and they don't view progressive feminist men as oppressors. It's not about being a man or a woman but about your beliefs and the system you reinforce with your beliefs that can be oppressive to women. And when push comes to shoved. They woul…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/09/24 11:58 PM
5	Lie that won't die - No, women do not serve longer prison sentences after killing abusers Why does it exist here do you think?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/09/24 05:58 PM
13	Lie that won't die - No, women do not serve longer prison sentences after killing abusers Op why do men get longer sentences?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	04/09/24 05:23 PM
-9	Because work in Japan is SO easy (repost without names) But it's a solution to a very unique problem. And it had nothing to do with "let's keep women from finding out that work in Japan is heaven on earth, niark niark niark we are evil". Can't it be also said about the things you complain about? DEI, the draft, pregnancy disputes etc..? That the progressives don't just hate men and white people but they're trying to fix systemic issues?	/r/MensRights	04/09/24 02:33 PM
-7	Why don't we see Paper Abortion posts in this sub? I agree with the notion of legal parental surrender What do you mean? Like parents opting out of being raising their children? If that's the case then honestly it's probably a governmental practical issue where a dude can cum and impregnate dozens of women in just a month so the state can't really deal with dudes just cumming, getting someone pregnant with all that comes either and then ducking. The state can't sustain all of men opting out of the responsibility of fathering their children.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/09/24 10:33 PM
-13	Why don't we see Paper Abortion posts in this sub? OP when you get a uterus and can get pregnant, then come back to have this discussion if you care about equality.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	03/09/24 10:22 PM
2	Mother goes to jail for refusing to let father have visitation and therapy with his sons She deserves it but we gotta stop demonizing each other with this gender was bs, we need to transcend this if we truly want to live in harmony. This does nothing but further divide us. I mean what would be you guy's reaction if in the feminist sub, they posted negative stories or reports of men bring in the wrong? If anything people in here should only post hard data and studies with suggestions on how how fix issues and improve life for men.	/r/MensRights	02/09/24 05:16 AM
1	Why don't we just let women create a womens-only country so they understand why men are important? How does this disprove my point? We're talking about hypotheticals where men and all that comes with them exists not real life as to op's statement dummy, the real reasons why is because: patriarchy, historical patriarchy, women only having a start in some developed countries since WWII, market dynamics, competition with men etc.. Women are graduating more than men though and hopefully soon they'll start making more too, so that should tell you that we're still very much on the curve of progress…	/r/MensRights	02/09/24 04:07 AM
1	Why don't we just let women create a womens-only country so they understand why men are important? in a few years we will have the technology for artificial wombs Link please? Anything tangible other than the overly ridiculously optimistic articles that every outlet makes every year "this new battery technology discovery will achieve and revolutionize this..." And if women are able to do medical engineering, what makes you think men can't Because it's easier to make an egg when you have the chicken rather than the cock because the goddamn egg is made within the chicken with all the necessary …	/r/MensRights	02/09/24 03:49 AM
-2	Why don't we just let women create a womens-only country so they understand why men are important? I don't get what you are trying to prove To prove that women can do it on their own and prove op's point wrong once again, you guys are so clueless people gotta spoonfeed you perspectives to understand them.	/r/MensRights	01/09/24 10:08 PM
-1	Why don't we just let women create a womens-only country so they understand why men are important? There's no such technology as Artifical wombs, humans can barely clone animals in natural wombs without complications and early death	/r/MensRights	01/09/24 09:52 PM
-3	Why don't we just let women create a womens-only country so they understand why men are important? Yes, issues like a functioning power grid, legal system capable of enforcing law and supply network. Why do you think women can't do these things in a system of just women? I don’t think OP is talking about splitting all humanity along gender lines, Well I am, if we compare the two which op is trying to imply that men will do fine and women won't be able to make it, I'm telling him and you that men literally would go extinct within one generation while it not being the case with women. So I'm co…	/r/MensRights	01/09/24 06:55 PM
-5	Why don't we just let women create a womens-only country so they understand why men are important? https://youtu.be/deEeqOG4EPc	/r/MensRights	01/09/24 06:49 PM
-18	Why don't we just let women create a womens-only country so they understand why men are important? If there's a country full of women, they wouldn't have to deal with men and the issues men disproportionately contribute to. Also they have uteruses so with a little bit of medical engineering they wouldn't go extinct which is something men will never sustain, you know... humanity itself.	/r/MensRights	01/09/24 03:29 PM
-1	98.5% of those executed in the U.S. since the death penalty was legalized in 1977 have been men If there was a 98.5% chance that women would be victims of state violence, Never heard of this, what is it again? Can you link me a source please?	/r/MensRights	31/08/24 11:37 AM
-19	98.5% of those executed in the U.S. since the death penalty was legalized in 1977 have been men same crime same background » and you're trying to say « more violent and gruesome crimes » Those two things can be true at the same time as well lol, same crime doesn't mean the same crime exactly or level of crime. Example would be 1st degree murder, there are varying levels of 1st degree murder and we know that how those murders are conducted factor in, also things like how the defendant present themselves in court and how they conduct themselves factor in, we know considering these factors th…	/r/MensRights	31/08/24 12:30 AM
-8	chat finally recognizing that defaulting to she her is discriminatory to males You're defending the patriarchal aspects of pronouns and how they're used, you're literally using an appeal to tradition fallacy to justify the legacy of the use. When it comes to intent, it's a complex discussion but yes intent matters and doesn't depending on the context. Intent matters for a comedian making a joke for example but that intent wouldn't matter if they called someone in the audience a bitch or a racial slur as a joke. So much of language has inherent meaning etched into it by the…	/r/MensRights	30/08/24 11:56 PM
-9	chat finally recognizing that defaulting to she her is discriminatory to males Your mysoginy is showing	/r/MensRights	30/08/24 11:44 PM
-35	98.5% of those executed in the U.S. since the death penalty was legalized in 1977 have been men Those two things can be true at the same time, also have you thought about the contributing factors to men receiving harsher punishment is because of pretty privilege given most judges are male and because men commit much more violent and gruesome crimes which translates to harsher sentences?	/r/MensRights	30/08/24 11:20 PM
1	Girls are not actually smarter and Women need to stop blaming men for being paid less Just replace womenn with black or native American or Mexican and then you have your answer.	/r/MensRights	30/08/24 09:39 AM
1	healing from professional damage Were you familiar with movement before or did you come across it after everything that happened? Just curious	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 10:56 PM
1	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? What do you mean? Do identify more with right or greater left? It's really that simple	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 10:15 PM
1	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? Just curious, do you lean more liberal or conservative? I'm trying to learn more about the movement.	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 10:08 PM
1	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? both stem from mental health issues and we're arguing about the symptoms instead of the actual disease. What's the disease? You mean like woke ideology or something?	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 09:55 PM
1	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? Are you more conservative or liberal leaning? Just curious cause I'm trying to learn about this movement.	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 08:06 PM
1	Girls are not actually smarter and Women need to stop blaming men for being paid less When I hear “gender pay gap” I’m under the impression that people mean “getting paid less for the same work when you have the same qualifications simply for being a woman” which is categorically false I don't think it has been like that for quite a while, I think it's illegal. However what people like you miss and what feminists try to emphasize is why are women getting paid less societaly?? Because they want to get women to be making as much as men to reach more equality in that sense. It's lik…	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 03:22 PM
1	Girls are not actually smarter and Women need to stop blaming men for being paid less The hole is the examples showing your narrative that people and companies give women with the same experience and skills a lower pay than the men is wrong. If you're talking about regular working class jobs then I believe there is still a gap but it's quite small How is it that difficult to understand an analogy? Cause your analogy makes zero sense, you're comparing immutable characteristics with a profession lol If your claim (lie) that women get paid less simply for being women is correct (whi…	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 02:51 PM
2	Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination? I meant requirement as in, a requirement if you willingly choose to join the military and be an active member.	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 02:16 PM
-2	Girls are not actually smarter and Women need to stop blaming men for being paid less Women in the wnba don’t get paid less because they’re women but because of the lack of interest. Why is there less interest? Is it because there's some natural boundary that we cant override? Is the amount of interest today some fixed thing that we can't change or improve? Of course not and that's the point, the lack of interest is an issue contributing to the gap and women are actively working on it while the men didn't embrace their feminine side or what had been reputably known as more femini…	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 02:05 PM
3	Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination? Neither is joining the military. Huh?	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 01:44 PM
2	Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination? Men invest more in cars but they still aren't given any extra leverage on parking tickets or given less interests on car loans. I don't how this relates to any of what I'm saying, we're talking about the military and women and man's hairs are like total polar opposites. Parking tickets are a penalty or a punishment not a requirement to enter somewhere or something. Men who have longer hair still have to cut their hair in military. I'll make an exception for that rare subset of men with long hair…	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 12:49 PM
-1	Girls are not actually smarter and Women need to stop blaming men for being paid less What's your substantive disagreement?	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 12:39 PM
1	Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination? Some men have longer hair than women also. And I'm willing to make exceptions for those very small subset of men, that's perfectly consistent. Most people who enter the military are fine with it because as I said they already have very short hair so it usually most of the time doesn't matter, but for men with long hair or as long as women's they're the ones who struggle to cope with that because that hair took such a long time and money and energy to grow and maintain. You're comparing apples to…	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 11:40 AM
0	Do you consider forcing males to cut their hair in aviation, medical institutions and military discrimination? Who cares?? most men have really short hair so they'll grow it right back after if they wanted to not like growing back years or decades worth of hair in a woman's case and most combatants are men so it makes sense.	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 11:17 AM
-8	Girls are not actually smarter and Women need to stop blaming men for being paid less My favorite counterarguments I'll answer them Why do men get paid less for modelling?" Cause there isn't as much interest from men about modeling which means less revenue and all the downstream industries that come from modeling. But what you're missing is the point that the feminists are trying to make that this is an issue too because men haven't worked on reaching more equality by embracing their feminine side and all the downstream effects that comes with that including modeling and the cult…	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 10:57 AM
1	FD Signifier showing his susceptibility to misinformation and support for abusers If it's a male perpetrator/female victim story, that is absolutely how the majority of people judge whole relationships You're putting the cart before the horse, your already assuming what's being challenged here. At least to a certain extent. then that would be significant, but there's not. Unless you know something I don't. My point was to say that we don't and will never know the full extent of what happened between them. What's your basis for that statement? My basis was from watching the wh…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 02:05 AM
2	How to respond to “who set that system up?”? What if it was a zero sum game hypothetically if you were to steel man their perspective? What would be your outlook then?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 01:53 AM
1	Gender Specific Laws in Spain Backfire Cause even though I disagree with the law and your characterisation of it (it can probably be systemically racist or sexist not outwrite racist/sexist) it's most likely a nothing burger law like the tens of thousands of laws that are on books but never implemented cause its ridiculous and impractical. That's kind of my point on this law if I take your word for it obviously which I did here.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 01:44 AM
0	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? I merely brought it up in My first and the following comments to show that women aren't necessarily being targeted for violent crimes And you originally brought it up because...? Women complain about being killed all the time when it's the men who are killed? Is that why? Those types of women that do that actually say "we're getting killed by men women" they don't say they're getting disproportionately killed more than other men, cause at the end of the day the men are the ones doing pretty much…	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 01:37 AM
-27	Progressive spaces shit on lonely men. Three of those I agree with the leftists on and the Tim walz one seemed very fringe om twitter and just political theater to drum up more support for this upcoming election.	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 01:20 AM
1	Gender Specific Laws in Spain Backfire Just give me one prominent example in Canada or Spain in the last half decade, how about that?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 01:18 AM
1	Gender Specific Laws in Spain Backfire Any actual examples?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 01:11 AM
-28	Progressive spaces shit on lonely men. I did, nothing happened. If it's about minorities and their rights, struggles etc... then yeah I can see that cause again we're speaking of humans not tariffs or taxes. There is no negotiation with people's rights, freedoms etc.	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 12:59 AM
-1	FD Signifier showing his susceptibility to misinformation and support for abusers Buddy one recording is like a grain of sand lacking every bit of context to all the debacle that went between those two people, that's just not how we judge whole relationships or friendships, by just one audio or video especially when they're several decades old. What would you say if there was another recording of Depp doing it to her 7 months later? It seems like to me that she was the primary aggressor and abuser in the relationship but he wasn't no innocent helpless puppy that was being tak…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 12:53 AM
2	Gender Specific Laws in Spain Backfire Has this law been actually applied to someone? Like did somebody get jailed because they interacted or were near someone who felt threatened by them?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 12:31 AM
1	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? Interested to know more about this movement, interested to know about the history of it etc..	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 12:26 AM
-4	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? Okay, what did this movement achieve in it's 45 to 50 years of existence?	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 12:21 AM
0	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? Was this because of this movement you would say?	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 12:20 AM
0	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? What's the point of you bringing up the homicide victim rate being men in your original comment and then here again? Please, just a straight forward answer.	/r/MensRights	29/08/24 12:18 AM
1	Young women are the most progressive group in American history. Young men are checked out. (Young men are increasingly voting conservative and as a Young man myself I’m not surprised, lots of male issues are ignored, invalidated and scoffed at. The left need to fix this) Were you actually hurt or upset that obama made an imaginary joke about trump having a small penis? Like I'm genuinely asking cause idk if this real or not.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 12:15 AM
0	Young women are the most progressive group in American history. Young men are checked out. (Young men are increasingly voting conservative and as a Young man myself I’m not surprised, lots of male issues are ignored, invalidated and scoffed at. The left need to fix this) Jokes towards a gender by the same gender is way more acceptable than the reverse and you know it, these are also imaginary jokes not based in reality cause nobody knows these people dick sizes which is also a factor lol.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 12:13 AM
1	Young women are the most progressive group in American history. Young men are checked out. (Young men are increasingly voting conservative and as a Young man myself I’m not surprised, lots of male issues are ignored, invalidated and scoffed at. The left need to fix this) Huh?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 12:10 AM
0	Young women are the most progressive group in American history. Young men are checked out. (Young men are increasingly voting conservative and as a Young man myself I’m not surprised, lots of male issues are ignored, invalidated and scoffed at. The left need to fix this) Like what rights would you like to have?	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	29/08/24 12:09 AM
1	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? like sexist women mostly seem to for saying all men are incompetent murder/sexual assault prone brutes. Have you met a woman who said this in real life?	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 11:57 PM
5	What are some things that this movement has actually achieved? Do you feel at risk personally?	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 11:44 PM
-53	Progressive spaces shit on lonely men. Now I’m seeing progressives who are supposed to value tolerance and uniqueness bully people for being a little bit socially awkward / weird as if the whole point of liberalism wasn’t to accept people for being weird to begin with. Progressives usually don't bully the weird or different, if they bully people it's probably for arguing with people about others and their rights, freedoms, struggles etc... you know actual humans not economic policy. The conservatives are usually the ones who bully pe…	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 11:42 PM
-1	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? I never said only women complain about statistically unlikely scenarios I in fact just agreed with You that it makes no sense to be paranoid about false rape accusations to the point of avoiding women in the workplace or elsewhere altogether when I typed verbatim "It doesn't make much sense to be paranoid about false rape accusations to the point it hinders Your daily life or ability to form connections." I didn't say you did but the MRA here DO, why don't you complain about them constantly brin…	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 11:28 PM
-1	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? As for men making up most homicide victims that's unchanged 79% of homicide victims worldwide are male. But here you are again complaining about something so rare its statistically irrelevant but you demean women for the same thing when they complain about being victims of violence, rape and sexual assault at night when they're out. You don't see how that's a double standard.	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 11:18 PM
1	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? Despite this fact You don't really see men claiming They're living in constant fear of being murdered. But you just did in your original comment, that's why you mentioned it to show that man have it worse in that aspect and that's why I responded to you. And also if by this logic that only women complain about statistically irrelevant things that are nonsense because they're so rare by your admission of your original comment, can we apply that logic to men here constantly complaining about false…	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 11:05 PM
1	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? If being unsafe in the streets at nights is statistical nonsense because it's statistically small for women to experience something at night in the streets, does it also apply for men and homicide given that's its statistically very rare too? Or for example does it apply to false rape/SA accusations as well?	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 10:14 PM
1	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? this whole thing of being unsafe in the streets is non-sense statistically speaking. So is the homicide victim statistics?	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 07:52 PM
1	Why do we keep getting fed this stuff? Are you an anti feminist? Do you oppose all of feminism?	/r/MensRights	28/08/24 07:49 PM