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At this moment is a societal issue caused by social media parading ‘red flags’ and ‘icks’ everywhere that now standards have become more unrealistic that it was pre covid. No amount of dating app reinvention can change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:57 AM
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Men will fk anything honestly, women are more selective. Too young? Too short? Too skinny? Too fat? Have an ‘ick’? You’re out. Why do you think their dating pool gets smaller the older they get? Even if they maintain being sane and baggageless and somehow still look like their 20s (tbh what are the odds) their ego won’t allow them to date a younger person.
/r/AllPillDebate03/11/23 08:48 AM
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There’s no way you can tell anyone of any gender that they’re ugly without insulting them. Most of the time it’s hard for people to change their facial features unless they spend a butt ton on plastic surgery. Of course you have to be tact on how you navigate the situation. I understand many guys (and I admit a lot of guys do behave this way) will take it extremely negatively and start lashing out aggressively, even at times killing people who reject them. I understand it’s harder to navigate es…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/23 03:50 AM
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She thinks recruiters ghosting you after providing an affirmative verbal promise (e.g. we’ll get back to you) is better to ward off the psychos more than a rejection letter that actually gets back LOL. No wonder I feel like I’m living in uncertain days. Now it makes sense why my time is being wasted waiting for a response instead of just moving on to the next application because I wasn’t selected. It’s not because HR is too lazy to write a rejection template email to me. The company just needs t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 02:25 PM
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Dang sounds like double standards. I’d probably be cancelled and be called a sexist misogynist incel if I were to provide some women the “brunt and honest truth”, or flip the script of whatever the fk you said. But I guess it’s men’s fault for not accepting rudeness disguised as honesty. Maybe people in general don’t like to be insulted even if whatever bad traits they have is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/23 10:02 AM
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I would date a bi woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/23 12:13 PM
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I admire women’s ability to support each other, something that has been missing in many dudes nowadays. A girl friend will still having out with their girls even when attached, meanwhile once my guy friends are attached it’s game over. Hell my closest friend in recent years I confide in is a girl. Lord knows what I would do without her.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 05:01 AM
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I always believe that rights are inalienable to everyone human being, and that every adult should have autonomy to make choices and be accountable. Feminism allows for autonomy for women financially and politically. I don’t really know what the paradigm is for modern feminism, so I have no comment for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/23 03:49 PM
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That’s because women are more superficial about height. Also women are more toxic to fat women than men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/23 03:01 PM
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I just swiped left on a physical 1/10 looking girl who have a non negotiable being “fk me better than my 7.87” dildo (I hate mediocre sex)”, I’ve never been more baffled that a woman would think it’s okay to put this, but I think men will still entertain people like her because of how desperate the situation has become for them. Now imagine some crusty dude demanding you to perform better than his latest flesh light gadgetry or some advanced anime pillow/sexdoll idk. (Tbh you don’t have to imagi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 11:26 AM
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You have “nice girl” vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 06:19 AM
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I’m pretty sure most of them on that sub are attention seeking for some validation. It’s like rich people calling themselves broke for some humble bragging while staying in a thousand dollar Airbnb or some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 02:47 PM
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I think of it as women have a narrower respect/treatment range compared to men. There are men so extreme on each spectrum it’s as easy to see the average woman getting treated better, and yet acknowledge that men at the top gets treated the best compared to most women who’s not a nepo girl due to the glass ceiling. Anyways men don’t get baseline respect. They earn it. I don’t know who’s telling you otherwise. But just because one man is not hostile to another man on the street does not necessari…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 02:19 PM
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You ain’t ugly, in fact you look abit like the Berlin guy from Money Heist. The issue with you is not that you’re a virgin. It’s that you’re obsessed that losing your virginity makes you a man. You’re not even in the right mental health to get a normal girl let alone a beautiful one. You’ll be more of a man if you control yourself. You need to clear your headspace first. Being a man is more than just losing some virginity. Go hire an escort if you want to experience. Or seek some help and suppor…
/r/AllPillDebate27/04/23 11:00 AM
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I like Beyoncé and Rihanna, Taylor is just some white suburb girl who whines about this and that.
/r/AntiFeminists18/01/23 04:27 PM
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Oooo I always love dates that alternate payments. Either that we bet on something and the loser pays for the next date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:31 PM
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What’s a fig (I only know the tree idk the dating lingo on it).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:30 PM
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Ah yep pay for!! I think there’s a fear in men about the expectations of paying for a date, especially with a vocal fringe group on the internet (which I know it’s not really a reflection of reality) says that not paying for dates is a red flag or something. I had my fair share of paying for dates that didn’t go anywhere, so I do understand the issue, especially for some unlucky ones who got the short end of the stick often to feel dejected in the dating process altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 08:29 PM
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Ain’t worth it. Damned if you do damned if you don’t.
/r/AntiFeminists07/12/22 07:06 PM
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That’s great!! :) I think it’s the first step to progress! Anyways yea dating apps sucks so much… I rather just join some social group and make friends, hell I use bumble for BFF mode now.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 12:16 PM
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Dude dating apps are worse for introverts. It just promotes antisocial behaviour that pissed off everyone because it’s so fking easy to ghost and shit. I hate dating apps with a passion, and I hate the fact that it’s currently the dominant way to date someone in this generation. Also for your case, nobody approaches you anymore because they’re scared of being labeled as a creep, it’s not because they don’t need to, it’s because they can’t anymore. Maybe you should approach them from now on, isn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/22 10:46 AM
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Dang, it’s okay she’ll be the one getting cheated on.
/r/AntiFeminists05/12/22 06:10 AM
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Brush by your logic, pedophiles are valid because according to you, it’s a preference. Also I’m not the only one who finds it icky, matter of fact, it seems like a norm to find 30 year old guys eyeing on 18 years old icky, judging from the comments here as well as any anecdotal experiences, if you want, you can draft your own survey with the question, run an analysis, and determine if my “standards” are the exception or the norm. It’s the equivalent of eating shit instead of sushi, not that ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/22 12:18 AM
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I'm a dude and even I bothered by some age gaps. I can't even see myself dating an immature 19 year old at age 24, I don't even know how a grown ass man in his 30s would even seek girls who haven't hit the big 2 for anything other than fresh and impressionable meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/22 01:49 PM
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Attraction is hella weird, people make excuses on why they’re not attracted to another person. But women do it more since men are the ones chasing most of the time and women have more opportunities to choose to reject or accept.
/r/AllPillDebate01/12/22 08:00 PM
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According to the girl in the video, they can “change that”. She didn’t even need to consider the technology manufactured by men from scratch to help those women lift those 30 pounds. Maybe by her logic, we’re stuck with carrying 15 pounds daily because the “patriarchy” refuses innovate to the point of not needing men.
/r/AntiFeminists01/12/22 12:38 PM
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“We can change that” “but do we wanna change that” 😂 Most blue collar jobs are predominantly male because they’re more willing to do it. If you can change that, do it.
/r/AntiFeminists30/11/22 01:31 PM
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Not my seed, not my responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 12:29 PM
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Our standards are on the floor, not below the basement. Everyone has preferences, kinda sucks you have to blame an entire gender for an individual’s preference (yes both guys and girls get blamed and blame each other).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 09:05 AM
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Can be confirmation bias at play here, there are young girls with old ugly dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/22 03:34 AM
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Yea, they’re both superficial asf, but I can get by judging people’s character based on their past, not their height. Just filter them out if they’re not your type tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/22 04:41 PM
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It's projection, dont worry about it most of us here are insecure. Matte of fact if you are a secure human being you won't be 'debating' with anyone in this site.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/22 06:00 AM
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Men should realise that the real enemies are other men and not women, and I’m not talking about ‘alpha chad’ or whatever the fk you wanna call it. I’m talking about the desperate creeps, simps, white-knights, incels, and the orbiters that has caused this overvaluation in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:43 AM
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When I was younger, my mum would actually buy clothes that are bigger in size thinking I would grow bigger. I never did. I’m still the same size as I was in middle school for some damn unfortunate reason, I can still fit in middle school kids clothing. Your mother probably overestimated you and your potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 06:20 PM
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I had an argument with someone about this a long time ago on this sub, she literally thought small boys are asking their mothers on how to fuck a chick. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/22 05:45 PM
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I wouldn’t say treat them better, you’ll treat them like how you treat a normal friend. And if you treat your normal friend like shit, it means you are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:03 AM
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What is a girlfriendzoned ain’t that a good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/22 04:03 AM
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Who’s going for them? Not me apparently, Kim K ugly asf. Jenner and Kardashian famous because of women watching their shit and giving them clout, and that shite ass sextape. They just have good marketing to make you think they’re the pinnacle of what men want from a women. Far from it. Every information a straight man knows from those people are fed to them against their will. Anyways people go for ugly people because of clout or money. By your logic, all women will wet themselves over Jho Low’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/22 02:20 AM
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I ain’t dealing with entitled women in my relationship, ain’t easy to find someone who’s not.
/r/MensRights09/11/22 11:18 AM
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Dude you underestimate Kpop Stans if you think women don’t do crazy shit for men they perceive as beautiful.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:34 PM
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God that’s a mood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 02:31 PM
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I guess people are debating here regarding advices given to them about how to get whatever they want. What’s not working and why it is not working. Loneliness is real. Some people seek more than just sex, and to reduce people (especially men) to just animals with hormonal instinct who wants to fk everything but is denied all access to is just not helping anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/22 05:58 PM
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I have some girl friends who tend to get hit on by guy strangers all the time (especially old dudes with thicker skin), to the point that they have to either invite a guy friend out to dinner all the time, or like be more cold to stranger approaches. Anyways if you living in a major city that's not the southern USA, you'll bound to find everyone you approach hostile lol. Don't ever talk to us city folks. Also someone on reddit DMed my private account with him filming himself approaching women on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/22 06:15 PM
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Hahahah oops wrong word, I meant decline their payment back. I guess it’s was chivalry or something I was taught by my parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 04:26 AM
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I used to reject girls who go Dutch, now they’re my litmus test on who’s worth being in a relationship with. I still pay for the first date, but I keep my mouth shut. You pass the test if you initiate.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/22 02:52 PM
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I would love to but it seems complex, I don’t have fine motor skills for eye makeup especially. But I guess it’s the same reason why men don’t wear skirts or dress because it’s exclusively feminine, that crossdressing is a men thing because all women can wear pants now. Men gatekeep men from being their best selves sometimes lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/22 03:08 AM
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Well what makes your dick hard/pussy wet can be a subjective thing lol but some people say there’s an objective consensus of what makes your dick hard. Only you know what makes your dick hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 05:57 PM
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Interesting… thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:05 PM
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I’ll take the L on this one 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:05 PM
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Who knows what was the definition of fat back in those days, the average size of a women can be considered plus sized back then. (Could be due to surplus of food being a recent phenomenon).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 03:03 PM
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So why do you still need makeup? It’s not a gotcha I’m just curious about your thought process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:54 PM
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Do note that there were times when obese women were bastions of beauty. And there were times where skinny girls were. Princess Qajar of Persia was once thought to be so beautiful that 13 men committed suicide because of her rejection. Her beauty was too good to bear. Hell if she lived longer, perhaps she might’ve set the standards of objective beauty. Oh here’s how she looks like. Also there’s also the 4 beauties of China from the Tang Dynasty, one of them is plus sized. EDIT: I’ll take the L on…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 02:48 PM
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Cues "She take my money, when I'm in need~"
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/22 08:43 AM
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Got a misandrist in this sub to have a public breakdown and blocked me because I asked for her self-proclaimed “peer-reviewed evidence” that men are more emotional than women. Irony is bitter yet sweet. 😂 In a span of about 3 comments she has: - Told me to Google her sources because she don’t want “incels” to misconstrue what she said. - Went full jargonistic on how I made ad homoniems about her despite not even describing her as anything other than intellectually lazy, despite her calling every…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:14 PM
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HOHOHO thanks for the recommendation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/22 03:11 PM
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You're being defensive calling me Gaslighting misogynist. You can DM me the link if you don't want them to read it. I would love to know about the peer-reviewed study due to curiously, I have no equity over your previous argument, nor do I give a shit about what that guy said. Cheers. EDIT: You've blocked me after baseless accusations. You've lost the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:54 PM
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I care less about what that dude says I have no stance nor give a shit about what y'all think. I only care about one providing evidence they say they have instead of being intellectually lazy and pulling a "Google it yourself", that's bad faith. You have it, I would like to read it, DM me if you don't want him reading. Thank you. Cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:48 PM
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You haven't dated evangelical Christian girls and it shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 10:00 AM
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The burden of proof is on you, please link the source I'm interested in your evidence. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:13 AM
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Sounds like the telephone club minigame I played in Yakuza 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 09:01 AM
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Yes. Simping is “false advertising” and “overvaluation”. Makes 2/10 women think they’re Gods. Why do you think even average men have a hard time? Why do you think some random bloke who’s decent looking had to DM me with low self esteem about him not even able to get anyone despite trying everything out? It’s like saying the shite neighbourhood used to be in the $50,000 range, now it’s $500,000. People are overpricing these houses, similar to how men are overvaluing some women. (Not a perfect ana…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/22 03:23 AM
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Male socialisation. In many Male dominated place the opposite happens, you get praised for being a player, and bullied for being a virgin. Why do you think there are so many angry people? They were taught (or peer pressured) by fellow peers that if they get the girls they aren’t losers, but yet they can’t get the girls, so it doesn’t sit well with them. Some of them blame their sex drive or testosterone for simping. Anyways, I can tell you from personal experience meeting different groups of peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 06:04 PM
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Bruh they gon call you low testosterone, these high sex drive men will just blame it on hormones instead of idk a lack of impulse-control. Some of them don't even exercise so IDK how they even have testosterone surplus to lose self-control. Anyways I agree with you. Imagine if some men stopped being so despo on the DMs and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 09:15 AM
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It’s self selection, maybe guys with guy friends will overlook their friend’s issues, some goes with girls. Which is why we get more critical over the opposite gender more than ours. There are boring ass men as there ar boring ass women, and I’ve interacted with both of them online and IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 09:58 AM
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I think blue pillers are more likely to introduce their friends to each other than the other camp. They’re less likely to be zero-sum game about relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:41 PM
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Ahhhh icic, so you let nature play it out!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:30 PM
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Wdym spoonfeed like you won’t even provide them with an introduction? Feels kinda awkward if they start texting like “hey I’m risdeveau’s friend”?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:29 PM
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How was it? Was it positive? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:27 PM
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Ooooo that’s a great way to subtly nudge them!!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:26 PM
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How do you tell the other person tho if one of them is interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:25 PM
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Hmmmm what if both are solid but they start finding incompatibility?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:25 PM
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Hmmmm maybe play it subtle, like ask them what their opinion on your other friend’s first impressions before suggesting?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 02:24 PM
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Don’t worry they're also too busy shitting on each other as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:57 AM
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Thanks for the insight! Maybe people here only scoff at the idea and post secondary findings without experiencing and putting themselves on other people's shoes. Alot of people are missing my point by a long shot.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 06:12 AM
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Thinking they’re 11/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:38 AM
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This is why I want women to understand about men’s dating experiences, they be like “I hate filtering”, well you can't filter nothing with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:23 AM
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Woah oh careful with that hot take there buddy, I got my ass plastered on whiteknighting subs for saying the same shit here. Anyways you just described loss aversion and prospect theory. Nobody remembers 9 boundary respecting men because it’s the bare minimum, returns diminish. But everybody remembers the one cunt who oversteps because we look at minor negativity more seriously, which is why news fearmongoring exists. Anyways this is how racism and sexism works, you generalise and create prejudi…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 03:47 AM
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Faceapp giving both of us slight Gender Dysphoria/Euphoria. I guess if I was more lean and less skinny I wouldn’t be in this predicament, I guess I have to bulk and puke to get to where I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:09 PM
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Man you 200IQ for this, I’m taking notes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 06:04 PM
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What kinda boat tho? 😂 like a yacht or a fishermen boat?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 05:25 PM
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What did you wife experience when she used your profile to text other girls tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:58 PM
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Tbh both sides villainise each other. But this sub has its merits on people debating on such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:40 PM
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Wow how many permutations of race and gender did you do this with tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:35 PM
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Okay, so take your current perspective as someone who wants to be in a relationship genuinely, put it in the profile of a guy, and swipe on girls. Both sides shitting on each other isn’t gonna help. Dismissing their issue isn’t gonna help them empathise with yours and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:33 PM
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I have ethics lol, but then again I did this without using stranger’s/friends faces or AI. I used myself, some with faceapp, some with just plain ol’ x-dressing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:23 PM
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There are like AI face generators to create faces of people who don’t exist. Not sure if you can change their expressions but I would love to photoshop them in situations and put it in a profile. Either that you can also discuss with friends and ask them for permission to use their faces, it should be fine if they’re a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:16 PM
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^^^^ I would upvote this twice. Rejection is a process not the terminal result. It helps you grow as a character, makes you more interesting. Avoiding rejection will only put you in a comfort zone where you don’t improve, and you stay here complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:14 PM
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I guess it’s like you had lack of matches to getting like the attention, like someone said it feels like an ego boost like you’re being wanted. But of course there is a risk you might have to take when you put yourself out there online as a fem looking person. But I have no attraction to men so I couldn’t be that happy. If I were gay, I don’t even need to do this experiment to get guys lol, I’ll just set my preference to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:07 PM
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What’s wrong with crossdressing it’s a hobby. It’s kinda therapeutic, and plus I’m as skinny as the ideal women (and Asian men tend to have more feminine features) so I look good when I see myself in the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:03 PM
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I think ever since my girl friend I met on tinder made me realise I should increase my standards if I want a proper relationship, I’ve been extremely selective since.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:02 PM
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I would ideally hope that it would at least make the them less dismissive about men can lazily calling them “incels” or something. IDEALLY.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:51 PM
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Do it, and record every possible interaction, good and bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:46 PM
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Well it means they’ve learnt nothing valuable from it. But I guarantee you they’ve never introspect on the negative experiences to understand each gender’s frustration.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:35 PM
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Yea they tend to have high taste in men, but for some reason they hype their average looking girl friends up as the most beautiful thing in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:34 PM
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Hmmm what about the negative experiences you had interacting with them with a personality of a houseplant? (honestly speaking my houseplant is more interesting than girls on tinder).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:32 PM
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Hmmm are there any negative experiences other than the lowered self esteem tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:31 PM
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That’s why I want them to do this experiment, but well they already got what they want, their indifference doesn’t really value add to the conversation even if they make a valid point about their own gender issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:24 PM
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Look no further, I think there are more guys doing the experiment than girls because girls can’t be bothered, but I think it’ll give them a perspective on livid boys here. I won’t say the girl in the video is particularly stunning (kinda pretty for my standards yes but not really stunning in my vocab), but she can get by easily with thousands of matches nonetheless, and she still gets culture shock.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:19 PM
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AI generated faces exists? And I don’t advocate using faces of someone you don’t have permission to use. And plus how many of these people are experimenting in OLD?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:14 PM
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Some women don’t understand that until they tried it. I remember watching a YouTube channel about a woman using her guy friend’s profile and she even started to concede that guy dating is dialing the difficulty to 11. I’ve also watched another video about a lesbian/bisexual girl’s dating experience and how much she emphasise with straight men. There’s also this video that if you’re a girl maybe you should watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:03 PM
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The filtering seems to be the fun part for me tho but maybe because I don’t have the risk of meeting them randomly in the street… I don’t know why some guys really can’t control their impulses to be endangering the lives of strangers they meet on the internet that reject them. But I want people from both sides to perform the experiment to know that grass isn’t greener on the other side for either gender. Each of them have their own issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 03:00 PM
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Damn that’s hella embarrassing linking satire to prove your point. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 02:10 PM
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Damn, I thought the fringe people of people I’m targeting would be single and livid. They wouldn’t need to be arguing here if they have a honey. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:59 PM
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I think someone did in another comment, albeit anecdotally without like sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:50 PM
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I said record the positive AND negative experiences and come back to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:24 PM
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Like are there any negative experiences you had as a ‘women’ on dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:11 PM
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I think you’re missing my point, but you should try the experiment out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:09 PM
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Haha is this general advice or for the experiment? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:09 PM
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Unfortunately I can’t go beyond the talking stage to the meeting state without getting outed as a catfish (and honestly I don’t wish to experience women dating experiences fully either like the stalking and the boundary breaking) so I’m not sure how to fully relate but I understand all of these points. It did help me be more aware of how I conduct myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:03 PM
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Agree with you 100% as well, are there any negative experiences you have that made you think “hmmm maybe there is an issue that women have a point in making”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 01:02 PM
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Who needs this sub when you can argue with people on Tinder instead. 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:52 PM
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Which is why you need to do the experiment, imagine if you didn’t do anything wrong at all, and you get nothing great, or you get punished, it builds the resentment that cause the other party to build their guard up and the cycle repeats for the next sucker. You do know that there are many men who aren’t what you call mediocre who bear the consequences that they didn’t even act upon.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:45 PM
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I understand y’all, I’m a straight male crossdresser who did this experiment with my crossdress pics (so it’s still me but I’m passable to get many matches). As much as I got euphoric from the matches (it’s like hitting the lottery), some of the interactions I had was less than pleasant. (I got slut shamed and shit for declining to meet). I think you do have a point in the experiment not working due to the mindset issue, maybe I approached this with the assumption of relationship rather than sex…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 12:42 PM
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I think I would, had a few clicks here and there but idk….
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/22 04:40 AM
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I mean everyone gets rejected, even the ‘chads’ they talk about also have to face them. The only difference is how you express them, which for a lot of “niceguys” (in quote to indicate that subgroup of aggressive ones) it’s not a positive thing. I’ve also met people on the other spectrum who would just shrug their rejection like it’s nothing because sometimes life gives you lemons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:11 PM
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I was about to mention sore losers in my post but I may trigger some people lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:54 PM
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Probably, there are different categories of nice guys and I’m focusing on a militant subgroup. I would be more curious of those people tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 09:23 AM
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Will take a look at it! Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:45 AM
1

Someone else recommended this book somewhere in the thread haha but I might take a look at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:45 AM
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Yea these people like to generalise a fringe people that DM them privately with the wider population that has a preference for non-promiscuous women. They take small overlaps and call it a representative sample, which is bad faith (I mean there are other comments saying my definition of nice guys is also not representative either but I wanna explore that one fringe part of "nice guys" who express their anger rather than those who merely internalise it).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 04:29 AM
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Once again, you're assuming that I don't blame dads or other men. You just want me to say "it's 100% men's fault" when it's more complex than that so you can wash off any accountability. Like "men issue is men fault, women issue is men's fault, we women we completely innocent, nothing to do with this mess we made as part of the socialisation process". Did I even insinuate that mothers are worse than fathers? Forget it you really are a misandrist. You put words in people's mouth based off laughab…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 03:26 AM
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Idk about you my preference changes when I grew older. Used to love cute Asian girls (I’m Asian as well and was into kpop a decade ago) when I was a teen, now 10 years and an ex-gf who has that cute vibes I can’t stand them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:42 AM
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The issue with your NORMAL socialisation is that most fathers have outdated mindset how chasing women, why do you even see boomers raging on Facebook dating to begin with? Also you talk about friends, again, you’re only lucky if you even have a support system of guys IRL to help you with that, some of these guys are even bullied. Same gender tends to shit on themselves more than they shit on the opposite gender. And men are pressured by their peers to be the one how pursue achievements to be res…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 02:18 AM
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The moment I heard people like Lizzo had a bf in this sub I alr knew the game was rigged beyond the point of no return. Body positivity only applies to women, some of these women will even make fun of muscular body building men for posing their gains.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/22 01:46 AM
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Men takes advice from men: "why is he taking advice from men that's mysogynistic, what do they know they're not women, we know ourselves best and we should teach our sons how to treat us right, and we are gonna instill said values when they're young and willing to listen to us despite not knowing how guys should be attracting us" Men takes advice from women: "why is he even taking advice from people not from his gender eww that's weird asf, what is he gonna be like 'omg mum how do I fuck Linda?'…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 08:05 PM
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You like to conflate sex and relationships huh, just like the ‘niceguys’. Hell I’ve never mentioned anything about sex or grandma’s advice to be nice to the girl with the tittes to get sex with her, that’s your word, your assumption, your projection. You really do think like this damn… You talk about men blaming women, but you go full 180 and make it a complete blame on men like a misandrist you are. I don’t wish to carry on arguing with you, you seem to assume extremes. And you aren’t even open…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 07:37 PM
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Something tells me you never had brothers in your life for you to hear those same advice coming out of your mum’s mouth. And they don’t say “here son is how you fuck women”, I don’t know what the hell you’re smoking to think about it literally. Like gosh if you really think like this, I’d be side eyeing you instead. Mum, aunts, and grandmas tend to say “the right one will come if you are a decent person, just be who you are some girl will come along”. Which is why I asked the damn question of ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:46 PM
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So far you’ve provided the best explanation (IMO). Appreciate the detail.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:29 PM
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I mean they do, which is why I don’t emphasise on just mothers or female role figures. When I think about how I want my kid to be if I were to be a father one day, I would also want him to treat others with respect. But I wouldn’t tell him that being nice will guarantee anything good in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 06:19 PM
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It’s not really an optimal choice lol tbh I know the desperation but not the choice to express it this explicitly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:27 PM
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Well did you express your anger at the women who rejected you tho, cuz I don’t think you’ll be who I might be referring to as “niceguys”. But I understand your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:22 PM
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Ouh boy the comments gonna be interesting. Anyways I’ve heard gays complain about each other, and I’ve heard lesbians shitting on each other as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:08 PM
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I don’t know why they would even focus on this. Like “I’m nice so please fck me”. How does one become this desperate to lose his own dignity like this. Like people who genuinely say shit like this cheapen themselves further.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:02 PM
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That’s what I’ve been tryna say but sometimes I get shot down for “white-knighting”. Even for red pill, you shouldn’t take all their advice like gospel. Some people go balls deep and they get indoctrinated without having the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 05:00 PM
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It really is an eye opening experience from me when they all act the same and say the same thing, almost like they come from a hive-mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:59 PM
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That’s true, I think women can also be very deceptive with how they tell men to be when being friends, but brutal when there is a degree of separation. I think they did mention about not putting sex on a pedestal (good advice btw prevents you from simping) but that would be hypocritical for most of them. But yea my advice to these men would be to focus the energy on yourself first and be introspective/socially aware. Go to the gym if you have to, learn how to socialise via positive outlets like …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:20 PM
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They might have assumed you’re gonna be an attractive man when you grow up (or at least attractive is terms of how the opposite gender your age evaluates you). The greatest lies our mums and grandma tell us isn’t the blue-pill advice. But that their unconditional love seems to translate to how other people value you. Every mother would think their own son is handsome (unless your mum is brutally honest then she wouldn’t have given you the blue pill to begin with). Also should we say that “nicegu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 04:01 PM
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Awww man but majority of the population are nice people (at least relatively less psycho when rejected compared to these “niceguys”). And I don’t know if such trait is even necessary to get sexual partners to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:36 PM
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Hmmmm so it’s the reaction towards the rejection? But why would they even attribute themselves to a positive trait? Is it a form of self-justification?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:29 PM
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The nice guys would hate sluts? But they also want a fast route? You can’t really have a fast route without the promiscuity so what’s up with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:27 PM
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Hmmmm kinda interesting because I’ve been wondering what happens when they get socialised different (maybe they’re part of “ch*d’s clique), maybe they didn’t experience bad rejection or at least learn how to handle them better.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:26 PM
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I think there seems to be some truth to the “girls like nice guy” advice, but it’s just self-selection (if you have functional parents, it’s likely because they’re nice to each other). But it’s not the magic pill variable this “niceguys” portray themselves as (matter of fact it’s barely a minimum to be nice). Also, parenting a child, especially a boy can be maddening, I think it’s the white lie they provide to temper us boys down that we get this kinda predicament.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:24 PM
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Awww man what kind of frontman is he? Anyways it’s kinda weird that they distort the notion of niceness since they stop being nice when they don’t get what they want, which is the biggest irony.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:19 PM
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I think socialisation (or lack thereof) leads to lower EQ, which can include lack of emotional awareness and empathy skills. But I’ll take that correction as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/22 03:18 PM
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I think it's just self justification for why they can't achieve what they want to achieve, it’s learned helplessness as well. It makes you feel better knowing that you have to accept the fact that attraction can sometimes be shallow, instead of asking yourself what have you not done and why can't you get the results from following advices (but but I'm a nice guy! Why no attention?) There are truths to it yea, like dating, most rich people are currently rich because their parents are, and seldom …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/22 05:58 AM
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Then there wouldn't be an incentive other than companionship, but it's not like having an opposite sex as your companion is anything wonderful to begin with. Just ask dead bedroom couples. I'll tell you that much conceited women will disappear/be humbled since simps do not exist to stroke their (women) ego and their (simp's own) dicks. Influenzas will also disappear and honestly so will female beauty standards. There's only so much "yas queen slay" these women give to each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/22 04:48 AM
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Both genders needs to take the issue of the other gender more seriously. But misandry goes unchecked. I just hope that both genders understand each other issues better rather than have prejudices about each other. But that's not possible when bad apples exists to rot the group.
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 01:38 AM
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Its a self-fufilling prophecy. And you're 100% right about the male socialization to be pressured as sex machine. I would be a billie if I had a dollar for everytime someone talk about sex or made fun of someone for being sexually inept when I was in the army (which 98% of your interactions are with males). But just because one is bad doesn't mean men should swing all the way to whiteknighting and advocating for something they don't believe in either. These men believed in TRP because it speaks …
/r/ExRedPill26/09/22 01:09 AM
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Some people are this sadistic. I have no other explanation other than them telling me their excuses (I was invited and I like it there/seeing hot guys that don't hit on me turns me on). Sometimes I feel like God designed the opposite sex to both piss and appease each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 05:02 PM
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They want to hit on than be hitted on. I heard from a wise man that in life you either become the fucker or a fucked, and not many people want to be the fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:46 PM
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I'm a straight male crossdresser as well, and I've been in these places via invitation by my fruity friends (but I don't frequent those places, I only go once). I've seen literal straight dude's with their chicks there getting pissed at gay dudes hitting on him.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:43 PM
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Infiltration is everywhere lol but one has to change their gender to 'invade' (because a lesbian would rather die than invite a man to her safe place) and the other one just 'invades' via foot in the door technique (somehow some gays are open with their sisters). Also just because someone invites you does not mean you continue to push their safe space bounderies, that's if I invite a guest to my house, my guest had the best time of their lives, and they start to invite themselves and randos to m…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:25 PM
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Well I've seen two sides: the influenza/”pretty girls” (I like to call them the pokim*nez/whadavayousayboomer gals) who wants to “uwu I partake in this niche male dominated hobby I'm so quirky” and get the bag selling OF or get attention by capitalising on male lust/simp farm (or because their boyfriend also partakes in that hobby), and those who don't want the unnecessary attention but partake because they genuinely like the activity. I've seen it in MOBA/FPS/Card(?) games, Anime, Marvel, star …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 04:06 PM
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I always hear my gay friends complain about straight women infiltrating and bringing their straight bfs in gay clubs (I also hear my straight women friends who love going there because of the “vibes” and how “safe” they felt compared to being in a straight club, bonus if they tell you how hot gay guys are compared to straight men), and these straight dudes who came with their gfs/women of interest get pissed about being hit on by gays.... In a gay club.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/22 03:54 PM
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I mean like what else would they come out with other than peeing they name and swinging the dong? I'd touch myself if I wake up as a girl. But yea the patriarchy and the safe part is a lil....... Idk I'm speechless but then again they're only a man for 24 hours. The shitty part about being a man comes after 24 hours.
/r/MensRights22/09/22 03:16 PM
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That's currently my situation atm so I'm defo taking a break from all these nonsense until I get my footing after graduation from college. In the meantime I'm just building my portfolio.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:55 PM
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The part where the status quo sucks lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:49 PM
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Yep I’m defo in your team. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 01:13 PM
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Well I always knew about their conceitedness but man, being mid tier corpo isn’t something to brag about (or maybe because almost everyone in my country can be in mid tier jobs).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:59 PM
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I think blue pill is saying that the status quo works for everyone, and that everyone has a fair chance if they just try to be themselves instead of being someone else. But honestly the definitions differ to other people so much that I don’t know anymore. But yeah, I guess not thinking about all these kinda things (aka taking the chill pill) and carrying on improving yourself (that includes how to seduce uncreepily but not manipulate) is the optimal solution for me. I do not believe the status q…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:57 PM
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Ahhh I see what you mean now. It’s their own perception of what’s “high” or “low” status since they’ve climbed the ladder to be in the “high” position?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:51 PM
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Make sense, but idk usually those who say “I have my own business” tend to be perceived better than those who say “I work for a MNC”. Because having a biz means you already have the capital and you take proper risks to be financially free, which is an attractive trait. Could be cultural differences as well.w
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:44 PM
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Yea but your previous example wasn’t a good one. Being a business owner has higher perceived status than a corp employee. You’re more likely to tell people “I’m dating a boss” even if he’s just a one-man (self-employed) show.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:42 PM
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This is just rebranded blue pill. But honestly I don’t care about pills anymore. But yea I think I’m in your chill pill clan without even knowing about it. Never thought I belong somewhere other than purple (I take the self improvement part and the hard truth but I don’t dwell on the shitty part of dating as much on it as other redpillers).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:40 PM
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Small biz owner isn't dating down either? You gotta have capital to even have a biz.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/22 12:18 PM
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It could be that these men in their league is also hyping them up as well. I think it’s just pygmalion effect at play here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:55 PM
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Glad to see women calling other women out for this kinds of things, hopefully it spreads past Facebook tho. I’m honestly sick of hearing stories about conceited people (men and women, but I’m mainly dealing with women as a straight guy) getting away with it. Maybe that’s my ideal equality or just state. In the meantime I would hope to see men doing the same calling other men for their toxic mindset, but most of these men are afraid of “whiteknighting” and “virtue signalling for some pussy”. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:52 PM
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Well I do meet some of these “matches” irl, but they tend to be more subtle with it. I got a girl who’s like twice my size telling me she has like hundreds of matches and shit, and how lucky I am to get to meet her (yo I’m just on the app for friends I gave up on dating). Plus, I do engage in gossip with my girl friends and wow are they savage with describing the people they reject (some of them aren’t the best looking people either). But most of my unpleasant experiences with conceited 1-4/10 w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:39 PM
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I don’t even think some of these braindead low quality men would have an issue of being virgins if they weren’t made fun of either. But I 100% agree with you that many guys lack self control and emotional strength to not let their instincts get to the best of them, and they still have the audacity to argue and project their mindset on us. I mentioned how most of these men need to improve on their self-control to benefit both genders, and got that comment posted on r/whiteknighting for “defending…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:26 PM
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It’s rare to insult anyone in their face unless your ballsy to face real life consequences. But on the internet it’s a different story. You can go to dating subreddits and check out the things that some women in their mid 20s say. Maybe even set your tinder preference to women, and count the number of “entertain me I’m bored” or “if you’re not this unrealistic expectation, swipe left”.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:22 PM
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Nothing wrong with not being attracted or having preference, it’s just the attitude they bring to pull down those they’re not attracted to (sometimes even standards have to match up with what they offer as well, people like to shit on men for having high standards as a reason for their indigence, well I can use the same argument). For example, you can have preference for tall men, and not shit on short people. Y’all cancel guys if they role reverse the shit some women say to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 05:13 PM
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This, can’t stress enough how many desperate guys can cause even below average girls to be conceited.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 04:34 PM
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Being pressured to excel, the consequences of not being successful are extremely high on your mental health and social life (extending to your relationships).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:33 AM
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This. I don’t know why this idea of men not communicating, but it’s bold coming from the same group of people who have the tendency to play games and not tell you explicitly what their desires are due to the “excitement” and “he should know” (Last time I checked, telepathy doesn’t exist, so I don’t know what they mean by “communicating”), taking a shit at you for being expressive, and using your emotional vulnerability against you that you have to learn how to not communicate, just for them to s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/22 06:28 AM
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This, I feel that people here jump the gun asking OP to dump him over disagreements. Relationships are about comparamising. There's a huge lack of context from OP's part to give any advice at all, let alone a solid one.
/r/ExRedPill21/09/22 02:06 AM
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Burnt. Verb; UK /bɜːnt/ US /bɝːnt/ (US also burned); past simple and past participle of burn. Source: Cambridge Dictionary, UK.
/r/ExRedPill19/09/22 02:34 PM
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Now I know what Jesus meant by saying “he’s the alpha and the omega” in the book of revelations.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 05:31 AM
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Lol I’ve used my female friends as a form of emotional outlet (they provide empathy and some useful advice on how to treat a women better). Hell I have male friends that I also use for emotional outlets (they provide relatability and advice on how to be a better men overall). The reason why being a emotional rag is detrimental to the relationship is because there are no clear boundaries set. If you are the type of guy who: want to fuck this girl —> tried to be friends to climb the intimacy ladde…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 04:54 AM
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I agree with you 100% people who talk about “wanting to fuck their females friends” has obviously never interacted with a women properly in their lives. And they call themselves red pilled and blame the opposite sex instead of looking at what internal flaws they have to improve on (like how they view the opposite gender). All they do is whine instead of being introspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 04:37 AM
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Number 4 and 6 just disturbs me a fk ton. Many of these women will flip when you have backup side chicks, but somehow it's your fault that they have to find backup. The double standard is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/22 01:41 PM
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Idk someone that allows me to crawl under her skirt for comfort (or pleasure).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 02:33 PM
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I’m aware one’s because of social validation that the dude is a good catch. That's why you hear many former invisible men start having girls notice and chase them after they become attached. Funny thing is they're still the same person. No change other than relationship status. The other is irregardless of it, if a woman is pretty to you, you don't need to care if other guys think so. There are some guys who still chase taken girls, and some who avoid due to not wanting to risk confrontation wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 12:30 PM
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They have already been like this in countrys where mandatory conscription comes before college (e.g. Singapore). My female peers in my cohort are 2 years younger than me, my same age female peers are already in the workforce. Men here graduate at age 24-26 with a bachelors. Meanwhile people in other countries and local women are taking masters or ramping up their career.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 06:10 AM
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Nonetheless, unless you are unlucky enough to marry a princess who wants the 太太 lifestyle (which is ironically many people, but a vocal minority will act on it, it's your loss if you stick with people like them), there are women who work as well, and there are women who literally take care of the house, and there are those who do both. Having a useless woman as a wife is rare, might only happen if the husband is rich, stupidly insecure, or rich and equally useless (富二代). There are some who don’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:27 AM
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Not sure what you meant but here’s an article about a TikTok of similar sentiments
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:21 AM
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Asian women can’t tell the difference honestly (even when you convert it into metric), he could be 5’9 and they’d think he’s a 6. As long as you are of fair colour and have basic hygiene (sorry weebs not even SPGs want you) that’s the basic requirements. You can really tell most of these men will never get any attention from their home country women. They range ‘bout 4-6/10. Hell, if a 2.5-3 is bragging. I don’t know what to say. Shows how double standards these ladies are. Dude’s slightly talle…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/22 05:00 AM
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Asian women are expected to contribute. You think the Asian men clean their houses and take care of the kids? You think some Asian women don’t work alongside and still do the things I mentioned prior? Have you grown up in an Asian household? If you do, please ask your mother or female caregiver. While I scoff at the hypocrisy of third-wave feminism and the fact that some women want their cake and eat it, patriarchy is extremely ingrained in Asia. Unlike western countries, there is a lack of gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 06:23 PM
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Many Asian women cannot acknowledge their double standards when it comes to race. South Korea took it too extreme here, but it’s not like my country is significantly better. We still have girls shaming our own conscripted military men(we also have mandatory conscripts like SK) for sitting down on the subway seat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:37 PM
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I live in Singapore, that’s one of the richest countries in the world if you’re talking about GDP per capita. Crazy Rich Asians was inspired by this place (because the author’s a Singaporean). I’ve heard an ugly British guy brag about how easy girls here are, and how he cannot never get the same treatment back home. He got another European woman beside him looking at him like “🤨? You?”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 05:34 PM
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There are Asian women who will throw their own race under the bus (hell even make fun of their fellow Asian men) and flip the script for men from the west. Search up Sarong Party Girls and Yellow Cab. There’s a reason why sexpats still come to Asia.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/22 04:56 PM
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Assholery has no gender, we just somehow let women get away with it for some reason. Most of them have no accountability because why would they need it when they can jump to the next person? Also what does your IQ got to do with anything relevant to your post? Seems like an unnecessary flex. I’ve read another commenter’s recommendation for CBT, you’ll definitely need those.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/22 01:38 PM
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More of rape threats/rape cries (If you have balls and testosterone, you would want to fuck all your female friends during dry spells, yes someone in this sub said that he knows who he is) than death, unless you're talking about death threats after rejection, which I'm also aware of some guys doing it after being rejected (but hey this isn't a male exclusive thing). Interestingly enough, many untrained (trained meaning that they were taught and instilled the right way to treat people) men tend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/22 02:11 AM
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You make it sound like some men are taught the right things by their caregivers, I’ve argued with other men in this sub who wants to portray a ‘nice guy’ vibe. I managed to get their true motivations via a few replies and baits. The shit they say can scare a guy like me and make their mothers and fathers ashamed of them if they hear it (assuming these people come from functioning families). There’s a fundamental flaw in thinking in some men (SOME) that they’re entitled to sex just for existing n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:43 PM
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So even when being one of the major perpetrators, the woman in question still manages to victimise herself and refuse to take responsibility for the deception she participates in? Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 01:39 PM
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This captures and encapsulates the issue perfectly! I think women (or Tbh everyone is general) tend to be more vocal about the negative overcompensation but they (un)willingly refuse to give credit to the trait itself. We need to find that balance ourselves unfortunately...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 11:22 PM
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Call it deja vu but wasn't this discussed before?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:15 PM
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Me too
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 04:15 PM
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You can say the reverse that many men also put up with toxic behavior from women due to their attractiveness (and sometimes even lack thereof they just are afraid of being lonely again because of the lack of attention women provides to them). Also everyone's toxic to someone. Nobody's a saint. Dating is to find out for yourself what you want and what you can compramize as well. It's not easy (or hell, almost impossible) to find someone that's not toxic at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/22 03:30 AM
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You sound like a virgin. Like sex seems to be the biggest deal for you. Your other comment talks about you maintaining 'good' relations with your female friends 'when' you have a gf/regular sex. You can't cap me, I am 99% confident that you definitely have not been in a friendship/relationship with a woman before, let alone a stable one, or even one with an attractive women. Instead of taking the advice of TRP which is self improvement, you whine and bitch about the little selling point problem …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:50 PM
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I’ve never said it was a flex. My main point stands nonetheless: you can have platonic relationships with the gender you’re attracted to. I couldn’t give two shit about internet labels. You can carry on preying on every women trying to be their friend with the hopes of fking them, meanwhile these girl friends have supported me in other forms (sometimes financially when I have financial issues, as well as mentally & emotionally during my worst days). I have guy friends who does the same. In the e…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 05:41 PM
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And how does that jade you? They make terrible choices for themselves it’s their life not yours. Matter of fact, girls who deliberately date up (looks;money;status) and get played are girls you want to avoid. Learnt that the hard way. What make you think that the average guy can and will do better in the event they’re given a chance by women? Dating is a gambling game, there are so many average and ugly poor men who can still play around and make life miserable for women because of some god forb…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 02:00 PM
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The biggest reason why most of us are doubly jaded having all these debates is because there is a lack of empathy from both sides. Women in general don't care about men's problems, and men in general can be unaware about women's problems. They are, however, mutually exclusive with whether men and women can form platonic relationships, and the reason why many fail is because there is expectation to move beyond platonic bounderies. I never said the problems are equally draining, it's still better …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:36 AM
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You reactionaries from both side annoy the shit outta me equally: the femininist cunts spewing out words like “misogyny” and the black pill cunts calling people “soy-boy”. The world was so much peaceful without y’all. You do know you and I have different goals right? I want to start a family with someone who does not have a high asf body count and fk around. You prob wants to fuck like an animal and unironically call yourself an alpha male. She has flaws that I do not want in a partner (romantic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 03:10 AM
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Y’all need to stop making friends with women with the intention of fucking them, you’ll see yourself be happier and not saying shit like this. I’m saying this as a straight guy in a dry spell. I could care less if my girl besties (who are attractive btw) are fucking a hot or rich dude because I don’t want to fuck them. I’ve sat on drinking sessions comforting my friend who got pumped and dumped for the Nth time while she listen to me rant about how I got ghosted by another potential date and how…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/22 06:02 PM
5

What the hell is an SMV and HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 04:32 PM
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You forgot the /s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 03:42 PM
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I want to be both the husband and the hookup, or at least have a wife to focus all her attention to me as I to her. Will not settle for less.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 01:44 PM
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Yes, or maybe because I have slight gender dysphoria I really hate being an unsuccessful poor man. But I do acknowledge the issues that women faced on a daily basis as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/22 06:42 AM
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My friends can have it why can I? Plus I rather have sex with someone I love rather than someone I don’t feel romantically intimate with (tried that and failed).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/22 10:18 AM
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God this is the best answer, men being simps really ruining the game, now even below average girls act like they’re 11/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 05:20 PM
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Pretty common, even from average and below average (note my standards are on the fking ground, I went out on a date with someone who weigh about 200 pounds). I now go out with my first dates via cheap cafe dates that cost at most like $15. So far some of them went Dutch tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/22 04:37 PM
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I’m on the same page as you ya know that 😂 Some men really have no social awareness to even know what they’re doing wrong which makes them easy to filter out, doesn't matter if he has a great personality. Women find this easy target and think to themselves “if I can read this socially inept guy (basically playing easy mode difficulty) I can definitely apply this to the general male population” so they will their ‘game mode difficulty’ up when they find some dude with higher EQ that will eventual…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 06:30 PM
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They ain’t mind readers, some men are just too socially unaware which makes women overestimate themselves in reading men. It’s like saying you can read academic papers just be looking at the headlines. It’s not that simple. Socially aware or high EQ men can easily break this myth, but they don’t want to hear about it. And they think only males have egos.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 02:10 PM
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Lol I’ve been matching with actual 3/10 girls (physically) with 11/10 behaviour. Even all my friends (guys and girls) affirm that my standards are below basements. I’d even swipe right on plus size women whose thighs are 2x thicker than my arm (ironically their attitude is worse than the attractive ones I’ve met). I don’t need no Stacy, and yet I can even get what most of my friends call ‘below-average’.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:23 AM
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Average looking best friend, but I don’t mind the latter. I accept anyone that smiles in my direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 10:18 AM
1

Well I stopped giving a shit about being friend zoned since like 8 years ago. Yea sure I did confess to my crush whom I've been real close friends and rejected, but usually who I chose to be my girl friend remains platonic (unless I'm really attracted and I sense reciprocal attraction which is hella rare).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:26 AM
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Interesting tho, in some places like east Asia, immaturity in women are more tolerated, if not desired or fetishised. I know about the overt behaviours that is considered childish for men. I don't know what kind of overt behaviour deemed by society that's childish for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:23 AM
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Me neither, I usually take video games as a hobby. I still work my ass off to self-improve more that I can. I can say there's a larger population of Disney adults being females than males as a counter-argument if that's their operationalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/22 01:16 AM
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I’m not lol I respect any opinion, it’s a discussion here. If I do disagree, I’ll add my points, but so far you’ve answered my questions well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:58 PM
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I don’t know about flirting but the emotional outbursts and tantrums makes me consider what maturity mean for men and women, cuz it seems normal (acceptable would be the correct word) for women even up to their 50s. Try throwing a hissy fit as a grown ass man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:34 PM
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Well traditionally men tend to fix broken items and do manual labour household things like renovation or moving heavy stuff and women tend to do the chores and cook. Nowadays the younger generation have difficulty doing either (the fixing and complex chores). I agree about the equilibrium tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:09 PM
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Well considering more and more girls in the younger generation not knowing how to do neither (lesser and lesser girls doing chores or cook, which let’s face it nobody cooks nowadays when there’s fast food dining, takeout and delivery), I don’t think the boys need to do anything to catch up and outnumber.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 06:01 PM
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Quite curious about the ceiling could you elaborate? :) some dude from another comment said that women have a higher ceiling.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:36 PM
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Well there are boys who learnt how to cook and do chores (even before their 20s) and there are girls earning minimum wage jobs who can’t do neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:34 PM
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Thanks for your perspective! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:12 PM
1

Thanks for the perspective! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:09 PM
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Hmmm that’s a good explanation, however ‘boys will be boys’ excuse seems abit off. Ever since I was a young boy, I was thought that being a man is to “take accountability for your actions, and act accordingly to your principles”. Maybe I was brought up differently, but we don’t give excuses for boys here when they fk up.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:44 PM
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Thanks for the study, will take my time to read it!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:37 PM
2

I wish I can upvote this twice!!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 04:10 PM
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My friend, who is a male and the 3 oldest brother in his 11 sibling family learnt cooking when he was 9 too feed his younger siblings. He's 22 now. I've been doing chores since I was 7, my mum loves to bring me out to carry groceries as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:57 PM
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Yea that's my hypothesis as well!! But I wanna find out how maturity differs between the two genders in terms of operationalisation.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:40 PM
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That's a great perspective to hear! :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:38 PM
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Thanks for letting me understand better about the benchmark for how each gender matures! :) And yea I completely agree about the actress part, that’s really on point. I honestly don't think men in their mid 20s (let alone 30s) would view someone in their early 20s as genuinely emotionally or mentally mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:33 PM
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I mean single gender college dorms and single girls exist tho we can say the same thing about some men living with their parents until he finds a wife to do the chores for him. But I get where you're coming from considering I've seen many cases like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:25 PM
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So if I were to plot a graph with x-axis being age from puberty onwards, and y-axis being maturity, women has an r shaped graph while men is just a straight diagonal line?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:10 PM
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I don't know about your threshold of "much", I would say a 5-10 year gap perhaps? It's kinda weird tho since I see girls 3 years younger than me as still immature and not having the same priorities (I'm 23). Hell I met a girl recently who still brags about doing molly in her internship and going to parties daily to get wasted, she's 21/22. I’m not having any of it honestly. (Even tho I admit I fked arnd when I was 18 or 19, I’m too old for this kinda things).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 03:05 PM
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Hahaha well I'm still in college, but that's because all men in my country graduate at 24/25 due to 2 years of military conscription. But yea I get the struggles of family and societal expectations, I'm supposed to have my life figured out by now as well, and I'm 23 (turning 24, apologies for the prior confusion). Be ready at your own pace I guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:50 PM
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That's what I'm tryna find out. Firstly, how do you operationalize "maturity". Because it seems like everyone has a different definition when seeing the statement. I want to narrow the scope to mental and emotional since it is usually used as justification for women not dating men their age. What are the requirements of what makes a men mature, and how are they different from what makes a women mature. Assuming the same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:39 PM
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I wish I can pin this on top tho this is the best answer to my inquiry! :) EDIT: I’ve found better answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:29 PM
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Hmmm how does that tie into the psyche of men being more mentally immature at the same age?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:25 PM
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Interesting, maybe it's the country I live in but the newer gen women have no idea how to do chores. It's either the mum or the maid. I've my fair share of dating girls in their 20s who don't even know how to sweep the floor, let alone do chores or cook. (Something that I can do as a guy). I'm also not sure about the video games part it's usually a form of hobby or relaxation just like watching dramas or Netflix (or hell even dancing or doing weird shit on tiktok) seems to be the hobby of many g…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:21 PM
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Emotional and mental/psychological. I believe both genders have equal proportions of mature and immature people regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 02:14 PM
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What does this mean tho? All this time I've heard about girl's brain developing faster or something, but all I know is that the statement has been perpetuated by predators and impressionable women with a superiority complex alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:51 PM
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God you need to layman this to me. But I think I get the point HAHAHA
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:48 PM
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Well I can say the same thing about the reverse scenario, women don't have to be as established as a man or have ambitions to be mature. I'm more aware about the benchmarks of what makes a man mature, but maybe you can enlighten me about the benchmarks for women's maturity. Women are less punished for crimes, and especially for rape and abuse. Till this day I've yet to find a woman who takes accountability for her mistakes instead of deflecting their excuses to external forces. E.g. When women c…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 01:48 PM
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20 year olds are physically better looking, but they’re still hella immature tho. I don’t think a 30 year old man would vibe with a 20 year old lady the same way a 35 year old man would vibe with a 25 year old lady. I would say 20 to fcuk, 23 onwards to date (since most women in my country graduate from college by 23). I’m 24 and even I can’t stand 20 year olds in general, let alone date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:26 AM
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You're asking the wrong sub. The women who are vehemently wanting a 6 and above are on FDS or tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/22 05:22 AM
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Ideal partner: Female version of me (or me with an organic vag) Ideal self: me with a few millie in my bank account (and prob 35 pounds heavier).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 05:53 PM
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God all these girls ain’t even good looking (except for the 3rd Asian looking one, but that lash extension is a recent ick for me). They really be struggling worse then me if they become males. No wonder they’re proud of this. But then again my priority is to find a loyal partner, not increase my body count.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 11:55 AM
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You’ll be surprised that it is, I have both player rich friends and non player rich friends, the players pump and dump like crazy. And they don’t even have to pay (other than for petrol to give her a 10 min ride in their car), just fuck and block. Non players on the other hand get manipulated to buy luxury gifts because they thought “this is how to love someone” only for her to dump his ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:50 PM
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It’s not about me tbh I read a confession (and hell many of my non-player rich friends who genuine wants a connection gets played) and I just want to state my point here. Most people are broke, men or women, and like I said there’s nothing wrong with dating up. The issue stems from using others as a means to an end (I won’t get into like philosophy of why using people against without their absolute awareness is wrong). Most men use women as sex as a means to an end, and gold diggers use men for …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:34 PM
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Yes that’s my premise all along!! I think many people here keep misunderstanding maybe because I didn’t clarify better.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 05:41 PM
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Toxic people come in both genders, and often or not they only show their toxicity after you established yourself to ponder over your sunk cost fallacy. They don’t choose shitty people on their first dates ya know, the shit come out of the woodworks once they’re comfortable. Their experiences with shitty men shapes them just like how having a hard time dating women/reading other people’s experiences shapes your opinion. Nobody knows what they’re going into prior to those experiences. I never thou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 04:58 PM
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It being a dating search parameter is not wrong, but it being the ONLY search parameter is equal to guys searching for girls with “sex” as the only parameter. It’s questionable but hey they live their lives as long as I don’t get affected. Stating my 2 cents.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:41 PM
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Both guys who use girls as sex and girl who use guys to blow cash on them don’t get my sympathy when either gets played. Also borrow money wisely. Debt can be painful if you can’t handle it properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:38 PM
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That’s assuming the end goal for having kids be with him and making a family with him, and not getting pumped and dumped in the process of being there. Again, read my premise, and the edited post. Dating up is not gold digging, it’s a natural thing as much as poor bitter dudes who can’t score like to say it is. Opening your legs when you see the BMW key fob or a rollie on the wrist when prior to that you are indifferent of the person is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:27 PM
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That I can agree with sometimes, prostitutes and gigglos don’t psychologically abuse their clients (unless that’s their kink and they asked for it) like some partners out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 03:11 PM
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It’s always black and white with you people huh? I’m saying that if financial attraction is the only reason you went out with a guy, it’s the same as him think “sex is the only reason why I hang out with this girl”. What I’m saying is that there are other redeeming qualities that should be taken into consideration. By your logic, men should avoid women in general like a plague. You have a 1950s thinking if you think girls only marry for financial stability. Some want status, others just want a f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:59 PM
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Fine by me, shallow people using shallow people. Just leave the rest of us alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:45 PM
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It’s all fun and games until you lose.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 01:43 PM
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Is attraction this monetarily transactional? You just described prostitution, or some rent-a-girlfriend bs. There are people who just exchange their time and attention instead and still have each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:53 PM
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They don’t notice you, they don’t interact with you. If there are two guys in the room and one is more attractive she will chat him up and you be the third party. Friends are too “busy” for you. You’re on your own. That’s why nowadays I try to be more outgoing and lighthearted, but even with that I still have difficulties breaking the barrier on invisibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 11:06 AM
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I don’t know your definition of skinny, I was told my face is cute, and I do skin care. Maybe my style is not great because it’s hard to get clothing when your BMI is underweight. Yea you need to be more specific of the word skinny.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 10:23 AM
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I’m not a pedo why would I chase a 4 year old?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 08:41 AM
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Being forced against your will to go to the military (National Service or NS) or go to prison? What are you, my local politician? (thry actually said that and I quote "Serving Two Years NS Privilege Belongs To Singaporeans" - Dr Lim Wee Kiak. Guess which group of Singaporeans does not have to serve? The non-males). Or having two years headstart from your male peers, and not have to go back for 10 more years after serving 2 years? Yea that's the non-privilege I want
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:53 AM
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Yes, I would definitely rather be an average women in my country so that I don’t waste 2 years of my youth on military conscription while my peers without dicks build their career earlier on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 07:24 AM
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Well I agree, and men’s biological drive is to spread their seed far and wide. There will always be conflicts with the two as long as there is not other common goal to tie the two conflicts together. But this hypothetical is for those who aim higher than they can chew. Someone who already has a lot of resources can choose many options, even choosing to fling whoever he likes and dump them, so it’s a win-lose. Similarly if financial attraction is the only thing a woman feels attracted to, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:48 AM
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Waiting room for the hospital will stretch for miles.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:34 AM
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I’m talking about girls who are attracted to men with financial assets or high net worth (you can outearn someone who’s already rich if he’s not working), be it from their family or themselves, so if you strip their financial assets, they have no other intrinsic qualities to have such attraction for the lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 02:26 AM
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I don’t but I have experiences where the girl shows her red flags when I hang out with her after sex that wasn’t there before we head to the bedroom, either it’s my post but clarity talking to me or she was just tryna impress me before sleeping with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/22 03:25 PM
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I did :(( it’s always a mixed bag for me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:33 PM
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How do you react to girls who are not comfortable with meeting up so fast tho? Seems to be a cultural difference since people in my country will only meet up once they’re comfortable with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:18 PM
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I guess I’m the opposite, I only set dates when I’m confident that we can vibe online. Plus I don’t know how to instantly ask someone out when I don’t know them well…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:13 PM
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It’s night time here and I just want to get to know someone well before I move on to having a real life date. I’m pretty sure asking them straight out if they want to hang tonight after a few texts is a red flag for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:11 PM
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I hate being a straight guy. I’m pretty sure gay men has a shit ton of people texting them and they still entertain me when I set my preferences to guys out of curiosity. Hell I even entertain 100s of men in dating apps, both horny and genuine convos. Also you can’t say women are busy I just texted a girl who said she’s “bored and nothing to do”. And yet radiates boring energy to me. What does that mean???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 04:07 PM
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