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I don't like the idea of telling him he did something wrong. Yeah it may have not been her thing but is that wrong? OP you're fine. It's not wrong if you go for it. You can learn what works and what doesn't (I find they want like taking their time and feeling some good emotional spikes before going out on a date). Ultimately if you're this confused you have no idea knowing what you did will work on the next girl or not. Personal opinion: She did it as a dare (either to her friend or herself). Sh…
/r/seduction19/02/19 05:53 AM
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Cool. Best of luck in whatever works for you. :-)
/r/seduction31/12/18 07:47 PM
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I think when you become not just proud of yourself but of other people around you a natural sense of humility arises. Cart before the horse. You're not wrong, I'm just saying the emotions come first. That definition of pride sounds more like a definition of hubris to me. Pride doesn't have to be selfish or at the expense of others/yourself. Some people think it does and if that's how you see pride then this will seem off. That's not what I mean by pride though. This is true but I meant showing r…
/r/seduction31/12/18 06:10 PM
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Māna only translates to pride if you associate pride with conceit and arrogance. This is the inherent problem with language, and Wittgenstein would probably think we're idiots for wasting life on this conversation lol. Pride doesn't have to be seen negatively and I'll go farther and say this requires you to look at pride with a sense of compassion towards it and yourself. You can't think pride sucks, if you do this won't work (but some people are ashamed of having a healthy sense of pride so it'…
/r/seduction31/12/18 05:47 PM
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They are not at all out of the equation. I think pride. deservedness and self-compassion/metta are way more closely related than anyone gives them credit. But some people associate pride more with a non-mindful form of hubris. I think just like with anything as powerful as this that using it with a lack of awareness/mindfulness will cause more problems than it solves, but I don't think that's an issue with feeling the emotion as much as not being mindful. This isn't an excuse to check out. I'm a…
/r/seduction31/12/18 04:59 PM
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Not at all the opposite, I don't think lol. Buddha IMO understood we are emotions first. The first precept Dhukka is literally understanding and realizing negative emotions aka suffering exists. This is why it's the first one and the second precept are the specific steps to help alleviate the emotional state of suffering. This is why Nirvana isn't the end of the path and is in fact only the third truth. It's this state of suffering or lack thereof that our Karma comes from. Buddha didn't see the…
/r/seduction31/12/18 04:10 PM
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The only difference between fear and excitement is whether your mind sees the stimulus as a good thing or bad thing. Both are just adrenaline pumping.
/r/seduction31/12/18 03:52 PM
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Tramadol for bipolar is really unique. Never heard of that. Mania is a legit high we bipolar people never got the chance to not take. We're addicted to our own natural high and it we can go through all the things an alcoholic or drug addict can. Be safe out there bud.
/r/seduction31/12/18 03:50 PM
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Again you may be right but to me that's a false lead. Emotions always come first, and we rationalize and develop our mindset from there. If you feel otherwise none of this will make sense because to me that's kind of the cornerstone of the belief system. You become your emotional state for better or worse (this is why IMO depression is so crushing, because we have so much problem separating "I suck" from "I'm sad."), so lets strip down all the bullshit and do nothing but work on trying to feel p…
/r/seduction31/12/18 03:47 PM
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Hahaha not really but I've been there. Weed and bipolar don't really get along well for me. Plus waxing on about seduction isn't really fun while high, I'm more of a psychonaut. About 5-10 years ago I went through a HUGE Alan Watts phase and would just get high AF listening to his takes on life and the universe. Some of the most fun I've ever had, would definitely recommend if you want to experience a total mindfuck lol
/r/seduction31/12/18 03:42 PM
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My point is when you're emotionally in the right spot your actions and words will go on autopilot and allign with how you feel. This is the zone of seduction. It won't work on everyone because a lot of this and the universe is out of our control (some women will never like you) but I think when you find that perfect moment where you feel like the perfect you that life becomes 100% effortless. You may not believe me and that's fine, but I believe when you are in the ideal emotional spot for seduc…
/r/seduction31/12/18 03:39 PM
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Fair enough lol I tried to preface this by saying that may be the case. I tend to create models and conceptualize difficult things like this when I become manic so it's possible, but to be fair a lot of times the stuff I come up with still makes sense despite that. It tends to come out in a pressured, jumbled mess at first then after some revision I'm able to explain myself more clearly. I've learned to blurt it out and get it out of my mind as quickly as possible because if I don't I lose the s…
/r/seduction31/12/18 08:03 AM
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This is a very tough comment to reply to, in that I think this is a huge problem. I want you to know I thought about this a lot. I can kind of relate though and imo you have a sort of figurative pride atropy lol. I'm not a therapist so this is tough but I'm thinking keep it super simple and do basic things that help you feel proud. Maybe familiar things like good music, a funny movie, maybe a good book? Try literally reading about pride itself and trying to relate to it like it's a living, breat…
/r/seduction31/12/18 07:41 AM
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You're absolutely right! What I'm saying is focusing on simple, seemingly innocuous things like remembering past prideful moments or watching videos/reading books/etc. that give your a warm, prideful feeling is a more fruitful endeavor than striving for greatness in the typical motivational ways we're used to. Not caring is a double edged sword. Very powerful but hard to control I'm.
/r/seduction31/12/18 07:29 AM
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It's a lot harder to be delusional than you think. Have your ever tried to believe something you know is bullshit? I thought I was a religious prophet for a few weeks, I literally couldn't keep believing that once my mania wore off. It's almost impossible to intentionally lie to yourself like that. Give yourself credit. We're merely doing everything we can to cultivate a sense of pride and deservedness. This can be music, a story, etc. We're not trying to manipulate ourselves with specific belie…
/r/seduction31/12/18 06:58 AM
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Does it really matter? You will rationalize your emotions without effort.
/r/seduction31/12/18 06:32 AM
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Buddhism tells me going with your emotions is actually the way to more control which if I'm not mistaken could allow both of our opinions to get along with each other.
/r/seduction31/12/18 05:18 AM
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This can be alleviated by not thinking you deserve anyting that hasn't happened yet. When the hot girl is already interested you say, "I deserve this."
/r/seduction31/12/18 05:06 AM
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I agree the path is almost identical but we've been starting from the wrong point which makes all the difference. By the time you're trying to develop confidence or decide to be a genuine person about whatever it's too late you're fucked. It's too thought out and will inevitably be non-congruent and fail you. Trying to achieve anything more elaborate than simply harvesting a positive emotional state is inherently going to undermine said emotional state and come across as rehearsed. You have to g…
/r/seduction31/12/18 02:02 AM
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This isn't about being emotional ourselves. We use other people's emotions as a way to determine what kind of person they are. Even a lack of emotion will still be on the spectrum and used to determine what sort of person you are. My theory is this is because it's harder to fake emotion than statements (why people will begrudgingly tolerate a bullshitter but get downright nervous around someone whose completely faking their emotions).
/r/seduction31/12/18 01:48 AM
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Basically=red herring The psychology community for years promoted self esteem as the be all end all only to find out it was the result and not the cause of happiness. This is what I'm getting at, what to put first. Confidence and genuineness are results not causes. Emptying the mind of good and bad thoughts and active and focus on nothing but creating a positive emotional state.
/r/seduction31/12/18 01:26 AM
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Not really. It's hard to do but try not comparing at all. Just say no matter what that you love yourself (like even if you compare yourself to others or yourself, or fail or whatever you still love you). If you find yourself saying you suck a lot, people don't like you, etc. that's fine (you can't make that go away, especially not overnight). The best way to describe it is to actually tell you how I try to do it. So whenever I remind myself (mindfulness has to come first) occasionally to do so, …
/r/seduction06/12/18 05:17 PM
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I've found I can be rougher and come across as more assertive with people because they know my true intention is good. Kindness is not an excuse to become soft or a pushover and this is talked about in the video for a brief moment. When you get used to the compassion you start talking and acting normally again. But then you'll find that you can play rougher and come across as more tough because those people you are doing it to know you give a fuck about them. This is often how guys are compassio…
/r/seduction06/12/18 05:11 PM
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Some people don't need it at all. Some people come here for help with women and find out what they really need for that is help with themselves first. But yeah this isn't as exciting as a field report or anything I'll admit.
/r/seduction05/12/18 06:01 AM
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That's the worst part, that feeling of being a wimp at first. It's a lot like working out in that your first time trying a mental/physical exercise it can really be humbling and show you how weak/insecure you are or how much you've been mentally or physically compensating for a weakness. If you have insecurities they definitely show up! But the answer IMO is still compassion. The solution doesn't change which is really nice. I'm glad you are giving it a shot, I really think it can help a lot of …
/r/seduction05/12/18 05:52 AM
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If something holds us back we often push it down or ignore it. Finding that spot and bringing attention to it can be uncomfortable and downright painful, but overcoming a huge demon like this is almost always crazy liberating. If you experience shame or fear towards something I'd be willing to bet this is the case (everyone is different though). It works in things like lifting weights too. The muscle that's the weakest gives out the fastest and starts to burn the quickest. But that's also the mu…
/r/seduction05/12/18 05:38 AM
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TMW you realize the reason it hurts so bad is the same exact reason it will liberate you so much
/r/seduction05/12/18 02:58 AM
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I hate to say that I don't know if I can help. The main takeaway is that self-esteem is a lot more elusive. Like what happens when you fail? Plus there's not really a way to just make your self more confident (I think that's well documented in this subreddit). Since it's elusive a lot of people will end up psyching themselves out and devoting a lot of time to obtaining it. Self-compassion eliminates a lot of that. There are no requirements and it's very easy to understand how to start implementi…
/r/seduction05/12/18 02:46 AM
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Fair question, it's hard to make the connection and I kind of forgot to lol Just speaking from experience but to be honest I've never been able to in my life pick up a woman when I was hating on myself or the situation I was in. A lot of us stay in a critical, judgemental state and it's very counterproductive to seduction. A guy who loves and forgives himself by practicing compassion is more relaxing to be around for everyone, not just women. It will make you easier to trust, be playful with, la…
/r/seduction05/12/18 02:29 AM
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He's using a grenade and blowing up the situation, when he should be using a smokebomb to keep her wondering what he's up to.
/r/seduction04/12/18 04:36 PM
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Funny, you might have hit on my main problems because now I realize the idea of a girl liking me after 5 months of not talking seems creepy AF to me. I don't really like the idea of a woman truly liking me like that when all I want is sex, so I usually keep myself distant enough to keep this from happening.
/r/seduction17/05/18 02:11 PM
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Yeah I usually do, like I never really text twice or anything. There's not really any emotion/upset in this from me, but I can sense patterns. If it was a big deal to me I'd try harder, and I already feel like laziness is my main problem.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:53 PM
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OK, but let's say a girl messages me on Tinder and I take a day or two to respond, she won't reply back nearly as much as if I reply in an few hours/half day. I don't get it.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:24 PM
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Sometimes they text me something and I take a day or two to reply. It seems to upset them but again these are people I've gone out on one date with or whatever so that seems a bit clingy. It's not just one way.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:14 PM
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Sometimes it's girls I've hooked up with, like I had a night with a girl who seemed into me and asked me to text her sometime when I left, but when I did the next weekend she didn't hit me back. And we had a lot of shit in common, stayed up until late in the morning and all that.
/r/seduction17/05/18 01:10 PM
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She had a BF or someone else she's already into before she met you. Be friendly with her, see where it goes. Drunk girls who go from turned on to grossed out will show it. She was probably just a girl who likes to make out, maybe got a little too into the moment and came to. Humans be crazy.
/r/seduction01/02/18 05:05 PM
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If I heard that I would think you in fact didn't care about me personally at all and you just wanted to pick up chicks at the mall. There's nothing wrong with that but man, but I wouldn't hit back if I felt like girl number 2 of 4 today (unless we really hit it off). Her slut meter is going to peg out HARD if she thinks you did that for even one other girl that day... If it were me I would have said, "No, but I really just wanted to see what might happen if I trusted my instincts and asked for y…
/r/seduction22/12/17 09:14 PM
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Projection. You think you're weird to girls so you assume your feeelings onto them. You ever see a girl looking hot that swears people will think she looks like crap? It's like that.
/r/seduction16/11/17 04:33 PM
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"OK. I admittedly do enjoy the matches but it can be a challenge to actually make a connection with someone. How about you?"
/r/seduction16/11/17 06:03 AM
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Your subcommunication is showing through and somehow, they know you have options. You probably can't fake it but it all goes back to a natural vibe of abundance. I have social anxiety around men and women but around both when I don't care what happens in our conversation people seem to like me more. I think it implies the same abundance. If you act more emotionally wealthy, people will gravitate to you.
/r/seduction14/11/17 05:33 PM
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It helps me when I'm feeling intimidated to realize I'm investing in that person. Like imagine your good feelings and you're giving them to her like handing over $20 or buying dinner. The point is those are things I do for friends, not strangers. Emotional investment is good as long as you're smart about your investments. Ultimately you'll hear it put in a way that clicks. That's why I like RSD videos on Youtube because Tyler says the same thing like 500 times and one of those is totally me.
/r/seduction14/11/17 05:01 PM
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Not to be rude but you're still being needy, wondering how to get her approval of you. Give up on getting her affection completely. In order to not be needy you have to move on. You came across as so needy the only way to recover is to move on. If your paths cross by accident again just be friendly and stay non-needy aka friendzone her.
/r/seduction13/11/17 08:51 PM
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As a girl, you can do a little to get a long way so no worries. Sometimes guys will "take over" too which is cool. Like try touching their bicep first lol If a girl touches me I automatically think more about her...
/r/seduction04/11/17 02:45 PM
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I'd argue having game is a type of value, I mean ultimately if someone doesn't value someone else in the attractive sense then there's no chance. And as long as two people sexually value each other highly, there's always a chance. No one wants what they don't value...
/r/seduction15/10/17 08:55 AM
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What stereotypes would I need to abide by in order to "womansplain" something?
/r/PussyPassDenied19/08/16 06:18 PM
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I had this same problem and for me I stopped flirting. I guess what I thought was flirting was creepy and just having a good conversation turns women on?
/r/seduction17/08/16 05:22 AM
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IDK if it's irrelevant. A girl sends a good text to me and it can feel very relevant depending on what she says. Like I think with a little text teasing you can actually kind of remind a girl why she had so much fun with you or why she would if you go out again.
/r/seduction08/02/15 12:25 AM
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Bethesda and DC? Fallout 3?
/r/seduction30/01/15 07:13 PM
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I know as a girl there are a lot of things that it feels like you can't do that guys can, but as a guy the big one for us that women can do yet we can't is admit when we're in pain/hurt/feeling weak or vulnerable. We feel like we have to take it cause we're men and that's how it goes. But it's like women don't get that yeah, just because it doesn't hurt physically all that bad doesn't mean it doesn't suck to know a person who is supposed to care about us wants us to feel pain.
/r/MensRights03/08/14 06:55 AM
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lol yes. They're usually amazing in bed and don't get too hung up on not wanting to make a relationship out of it. That being said I feel like the reputation of having a player would get you just that, the thought that a woman would think you're "fun" for a while but not serious relationship material.
/r/seduction03/06/14 06:09 AM
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You want real results? Do your best to focus on only one thing this summer. Do whatever you can to make yourself feel less boring. That's it. You do that and your whole world will open up, for real. You'll feel alive, excitable, have more energy... This will make you more attractive.
/r/seduction03/06/14 06:03 AM
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I can tell no one is answering your question and to be honest I've wondered this same thing. The best answer is depending on the environment women can be intimidated. Another reason is that women are slow to come around. Their shields are up big time against a dude walking at them on the street. A lot of girls think a smile is a big deal and signals interest romantically. And if they don't know you they don't want to give you that impression. I would say it's more common than not to have a girl …
/r/seduction03/06/14 06:01 AM
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This is a hard problem. Starting is the toughest. It will require a shift from thinking you're starting with nothing, to thinking you're starting with something. Perhaps write down your assets, not your assets to women other people but to yourself. You need to find something positive about yourself to focus on, take pride in that part of yourself and nurture it, then branch off from there. I would work on doing what it takes to think you're an awesome person first before I start putting too much…
/r/seduction03/06/14 05:53 AM
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I think what /u/recyclablebantha is trying to say is it's best to go with the way of saying it that seems the most natural and comfortable to you. Genuineness is achieved through authenticity, and this is achieved by going with what is comfortable. In fact being in a relaxed state is so important that you can even say some really weird stuff without it being a problem as long as you do so with that comfortable mindset. This is why for a noob an indirect opener isn't a bad idea. Shit, whatever al…
/r/seduction03/06/14 05:40 AM
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As a person admittedly recovering from dancing monkey syndrome this looks like a trainwreck for advice. I wouldn't try to make anyone laugh because then you may very well start to hate being around people because you can't just unwind and relax when you do socialize. Too much eagerness is a huge putoff. I think seriously OP should think about being comfortable. Like seriously, try and think thoughts or do things to make you as comfortable and relaxed as possible. I feel like I do a much better j…
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:30 AM
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Dude, a suggestion unless you want a pissed off girl, don't do this shit for months on end. There isn't a girl alive that's gonna be fine with finding out the guy she's been seeing for 3 months hooks up with other girls when he goes out with his drinking buddies. If you wait for some talk to happen with every girl it won't. Basically if she's referring to you as her boyfriend to other people, you need to either voluntarily cut out extra curriculars or talk to her and let her know what's up.
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:23 AM
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Ask yourself if you'd be okay with her having two different guys. If so then fine but IMO don't ask her to put up with having to share you if you wouldn't be willing to share her yourself.
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:20 AM
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Doubtful. Both men and women don't respond well to extra directness. It signals social ineptitude and can actually be a turn off. Men need to be seduced, too. Don't fool yourself into thinking you don't like a little tease.
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:13 AM
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If someone who doesn't approach it from the right way and with a feeling of genuineness he'll come across as a douche acting like that. It's really about something that can't be spoken. A sort of "I've been tested, therefore I know how to act and respond." attitude that comes to some early but can't be faked. You can test yourself more frequently by overcoming fears, letting go and opening up to the possiblity of failure.
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:05 AM
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IMO being a man isn't so much what you do as how you do it. Like I'll admit, I'm about to be 31 and I'm just now figuring out with this whole manhood thing is about. It's different for everyone, which is why it's so hard to explain. Like for me it's about realizing the reward of achieving my goals is worth all that hard work I put into it. It's about realizing other people's opinion of me doesn't matter as much as I think it does. It's about realizing that later will probably never come and the …
/r/seduction02/06/14 07:00 AM
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No shit. I feel like I learned more from this than I did 100 articles from PUAs. All you got is you. If it's not good enough now then do your best to change for the future, but not at the expense of self-acceptance.
/r/seduction30/05/14 08:49 PM
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It's AA but not like that. Like I approach just fine but I have conversation anxiety. Like I just keep talking, and talking, and I honestly don't even wait for her to start talking because when there's any lulls in conversation I feel like it's my job to start it back up.
/r/seduction27/05/14 04:47 AM
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Unfortunately I don't know how to tell you how to do that. That's the confusing part. They say that this is about confidence but sometimes what you're confident in isn't what you're strong at. So is it really about confidence or is it about going with what works? It seems to me that confidence is secondary to a good, personalized outer game where you learn what people like and go with it. I get this a lot. I feel like a lot of what confidence entails is realizing this and knowing it's ultimately…
/r/seduction23/05/14 05:12 AM
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Thanks. I notice a lot of times I forget to move my mouth and face when I talk. Like I laugh and express myself internally but not externally. I have a very neutral tone so people can't tell much about me. For example I can literally lie to anyone and no one can tell. But when I try to tease girls the insecure ones tend to take it the wrong way because I forgot to "tell them" it was a joke.
/r/seduction23/05/14 04:53 AM
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If they aren't laughing, you're not funny. I'm sorry but this is the type of shit that confuses me about seduction. Is this about me fulfilling who I am as a man and attracting women consequently or going after women by doing things that work despite them not being who I really am? I love laughing and I observe things constantly that crack me up. I live to laugh. But yet in order to get laid I shouldn't share that important part of who I am with someone else? I read Models and the Blueprint. The…
/r/seduction23/05/14 04:50 AM
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If we're being honest it is something important. How many first kisses do you get in a lifetime?
/r/seduction21/05/14 07:22 AM
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Yeah. I'm like, "Well that's no fun, how am I supposed to make you squirm?"
/r/seduction21/05/14 02:31 AM
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I've found if a girl is down you can be pretty obvious. I've just been like, "Get over here," and have her lay her head on my chest. You can try tickling with some girls from here. Just put your hand on her side and try to tickle her gently and ask, "So are you ticklish?" You'll get a reaction.
/r/seduction20/05/14 11:44 PM
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"Fine" is subjective. It may not be fine to you but be totally fine to her. It may be fine to you and the girl you like but not her friend or your friend. It could be any sort of scenario like that. Since the answer is subjective you have to make a decision. And this is something only you can decide. That's kind of going to be the point, though. Confidence is like saying, "Despite not having a clear answer for what or how to do this I am going to make a choice and stand by it." When you say some…
/r/seduction20/05/14 11:04 AM
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More like Freud and Jung but yeah.
/r/seduction20/05/14 11:00 AM
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Does this transfer well to Finnish nightlife?
/r/seduction20/05/14 04:58 AM
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This IMO is due to a misplaced focus on what's going on. This can be hard to fix, though. Like instead of trying to seduce her you should use the tools you do to get to know her. Despite what people say about oneitis you have to have some with your girlfriend or else she won't be your girlfriend. If you don't take the time to get to know a girl while you're seducing her then you'll never have anything to connect to. But sure enough one will come along eventually that feels right. Don't rush it, …
/r/seduction15/05/14 10:48 AM
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Yeah, that's me, though. More importantly, I am often the one too rational for everyone else. All business, you know? I think a lot of guys on here are like this if they'll apply scientific principles to attraction.
/r/seduction12/05/14 08:10 PM
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I could never relate to drama, was more like E. That being said I could never down vote Entourage.
/r/seduction11/05/14 02:22 AM
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Depends. As a psychonaut I've heard of some interesting experiences in sensory deprivation (I was underwhelmed by my own sole experience). Then again the people I was talking to about it were people looking for a psychedelic experience so maybe they were exaggerating their experience. Nonetheless I think this only strengthens the idea that you will find whatever you are looking for in whatever is around you. Also you said your brain can "experience panic and other emotions before the brain even …
/r/seduction01/05/14 11:13 AM
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http://worldsfamousphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/budist_monk_on_fire.jpg didn't scream, resist, anything. Plus they've done things like put monks in sensory deprivation chambers. Most people will freak out within minutes of recieving absolutely zero outside stimulus but monks are able to last upwards of hours before panic. It seems like you can train your brain to instinctually resist fear, and even pain. If not, you can enter a state where these impulses are quieter.
/r/seduction01/05/14 10:12 AM
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For the sake of conversation How do you think Buddhist monks are able to transcend these feelings without instinctually acting on them before realization?
/r/seduction01/05/14 09:09 AM
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If being nice is a problem you could try reading a book called "No More Mr. Nice Guy" I forget who it's by but it does a good job of helping a chronic nice guy learn the difference between being nice and being overly accomodating and a pushover, and then how to change one without changing the other. Or you can try /r/theredpill. Just own whatever you do. Go with it, don't be wishy washy. Become a strongly-centered person with strong core beliefs, wherever they may come from.
/r/seduction29/04/14 09:53 AM
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Honestly man it's hard to say. There's just a very anti-feminism mindset on /r/theredpill that doesn't seem nearly as prevalent on /r/seduction. Once again for a guy who has been stepped on his whole life it can be liberating and get them results quickly, but you'll also find you don't look at women the same way once you internalize the beliefs. The farther down the rabbit hole you go, the less and less attractive the women you used to love become, IMO. You'll read a bit and see what I mean. A l…
/r/seduction29/04/14 08:52 AM
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Dude, redpill is something else completely. If you read enough of it you'll start to be able to tell what it is. I'm not some white knight but I can tell you that the red pill teaches you to look down on women in order to keep from putting them on a pedestal. This works, really well but you'll find it can backfire on you as well. Use the advice there with caution.
/r/seduction29/04/14 08:14 AM
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I've gotten laid when I felt like a beta chode. Many times. So do most guys out there IMO. Very few guys really genuinely feel like an alpha, especially around a bunch of guys and attractive women. It's very possible to feel beta and get laid and it happens every day in places all over. Needing to feel alpha to get laid is like saying you need to run a marathon just to get in shape. All sorts of less than alpha guys get girls, but all these guys who got laid show some sort of outer game to get t…
/r/seduction28/04/14 11:56 PM
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Dude, most guys out there are chodes and most still have girlfriends, some of which are HOT. It's not necessary at all. It's ideal but unnecessary. You can still get a girlfriend, still get laid, still have fun in life by feeling beta on the inside. If you want to become a complete man inner game is huge, but that has less to do with seduction and getting women than most people think. I see it all the time, it's everywhere. Most girls are insecure, and don't mind if a guy is about some things al…
/r/seduction28/04/14 11:21 PM
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If someone has a phobia it's best to acclimate them to the fear slowly. For a guy with AA going up to a girl they're attracted to is like putting a tarantula on a person with arachnaphobia, it could very well backfire and strengthen their anxiety if things don't go well in their head and they panic. You're better off talking to girls that only make you slightly nervous to talk to if anxiety is an issue. This will vary from guy to guy but you should probably start off with the girl next door type…
/r/seduction28/04/14 10:49 PM
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I disagree. Inner game and seduction are not the same. Inner game is just a fancy way to seduce yourself, to convince yourself you are sexy and interesting, and can be attractive to women. But other people don't care what you think of yourself, they care about what they think of you. Your outer game is all that other people see. There are people hooking up EVERYWHERE. Most of them don't have their shit together, and a lot of them are insecure and have low self-esteem. You don't need to have your…
/r/seduction28/04/14 10:40 PM
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I've said this before. Confidence is not an emotional state and has nothing to do with emotions. Emotions cloud our ability to rationally assess our confidence, but that's it. When we're happy we cannot assess our weaknesses well and when we are sad we can't assess our strengths well. But confidence is not contentment. Confidence is a rational belief that you are capable of doing something specific. And confidence in seduction is not confidence in yourself or self-esteem. You are not your seduct…
/r/seduction28/04/14 10:30 PM
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This is when the oneitis sets in. Stay the course, don't give in to what you want to do and keep doing what works.
/r/seduction28/04/14 10:13 PM
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IMO it's because the main difference between an introvert and extrovert is the former finds conversation stimulating and exciting (sometimes it's negative anxiety and scares them), while the latter talk to relax and chill out. I'm guessing when OP is in the mood to talk to others he's feeling very up, excited, full of energy, etc., only to have it met with people trying to wind down and relax. So the conversations he desire tend to be stimulating to the brain whereas other people at the bar or p…
/r/seduction25/04/14 07:32 PM
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Am I? How so? I'm not saying that your suggestions to be fake can't get you laid and even an abundance of women. You can TOTALLY fake outside game and eventually it will become part of your nature. You can learn how to act, what to do and how to do it in order to get most women, but you're still you on the inside and even after you learn how to pickup women you'll still feel a lack of confidence in other areas of your life. So you're back to square one, searching for something deeper than game. …
/r/seduction23/04/14 10:29 AM
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If you've never seen or heard fake confidence you aren't looking very far. People pretend to be confident all the time, and think they're being cool about it when they aren't. I'd say I can sense this in probably 1/2 to 2/3rds of all "cocky" guys. When you fake confidence you're being one of those people everyone else can tell is being disgenuine except for you. People who "fake it until they make it" often times reek of desperation and neediness, and act oblivious to the fact they do. It may wo…
/r/seduction23/04/14 09:33 AM
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It sounds like you have fictional oneitis. You want "a girlfriend" and that's an identity in your mind you're attached to. The best PUAs, the ones who can make girlfriends out of anyone, are the ones who stay unneedy after hooking up the first time/ the first date, etc. To be honest I don't think you need a hobby or anything. Most couples I know waste 50% of the time they're together watching movies and eating. Hobbies are personal time. Go ahead and get one, though. IMO it sounds like you need …
/r/seduction23/04/14 01:04 AM
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The problem with cheats is they reinforce counterproductive habits to learning the natural way to play a game, whether it be a video game, sports, seduction, etc. They hinder your progression towards a better character. Some people become addicted to using them, and never learn how to feel truly confident in who they are because they can't ever know if they're successful because of their skill or their crutch/superstition. The thing is as long as you are faking confidence you can't be learning r…
/r/seduction23/04/14 12:44 AM
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Except before feeling confident you don't even know what it feels like to know what you're supposed to fake. This is why IMO people come across as arrogant so often. They don't know what they're doing and they end up coming across as less attractive than they were in the first place when they were authentic with shitty outer game. As I said before you can learn body language, kino, eye contact, etc. because there's no such thing as a fake look in the eye or a fake hand on the back. But faking or…
/r/seduction23/04/14 12:32 AM
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Those are two separate things that people often mistake for each other. Too many people, myself included, think stepping out of our comfort zone implies we have to act like we're comfortable in doing so. But fuck that. I say admitting you feel insecure about something outside of that comfort zone is better than acting confident and like you don't.
/r/seduction22/04/14 11:48 PM
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There's a difference, though. One scenario involves actively downplaying it while the other does so much more passively. The problem with negs is that they need to seem unintentional. And if you're intentionally doing something trying to make it seem unintentional you're going to have problems. This is why IMO it can be good to not neg unlesss it comes naturally to you. Don't use it as a tactic, but if something "edgy" comes up don't shy away from it either. Keep your negs very natural or don't …
/r/seduction22/04/14 11:41 PM
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I agree with your sentiment but acting too "high demand" when you aren't feeling it yet is a classic way to come across as arrogant and turn the woman off from what she liked about him in the first place. If it were me I wouldn't send any text at all, but only because the details, like OP said, are already taken care of. It's erroneous.
/r/seduction22/04/14 10:56 PM
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That's for inner. For outer: Eye contact Kino Posture and presence
/r/seduction21/04/14 10:31 AM
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This. You can be too goofy, but in all reality if you can't tell you're not being too goofy. Take it from a guy who has never had a problem with making a damn fool out of himself, it takes A LOT before girls in a club start feeling weirded out. The only exception to this is if you stop what you're doing based on their reaction. Let your freak flag fly without remorse and you'll get away with soo much.
/r/seduction19/04/14 05:21 AM
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Relax. You're in the club. Why are you there? What do you want to do? Usually I wouldn't get advice like this since this is about seduction but I feel like your problem is that you're in your own head WAAY too much. So try this. Tonight is all about you, brah. Fuck bitches. Only talk to them if you want to for tonight. Feel no pressure to perform. Just breathe, enjoy life and the music and let go! If from there you chat up a girl so be it, if not, fine.
/r/seduction19/04/14 05:18 AM
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This is where directly telling them they're cute really works. Don't say it a lot or dwell on it but make it clear.
/r/seduction18/04/14 08:01 PM
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True, but machismo is sexy to many women, mostly because it requires masculinity to convey. They aren't completely separable, especially machismo is hard to separate from masculinity. You can be masculine without being macho for the most part, but it's hard to do the opposite.
/r/seduction18/04/14 10:33 AM
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You're confusing masculinity with machismo.
/r/seduction18/04/14 08:26 AM
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Me too, but in the last few months I've started to take the quality over quantity approach. Now IMO, I feel like Blueprint is enough information for literally a half of a year to a year's worth of listening at the right speed. Even if you listened to one hour a night, once you listened to it 5-10 times to really get a hold of what you're hearing that's 15-30 weeks. I know with the Blueprint there's just so much damn info you can't possibly get it listening to it straight through. And that's for …
/r/seduction16/04/14 09:33 AM
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The first time you go alone you're going to feel like a fish out of water. That's why you need to go back. If you can't get in state just don't take it personally. You wouldn't feel confident your first day on the job, your first day in class, etc. Just forget about seduction in the sense of all the tips and tricks and focus on having a good time while meeting people around you, male or female.
/r/seduction15/04/14 06:19 AM
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Yeah just roll with it. Don't focus on it but don't ignore it. I'll usually ask a question or two about her relationship (not him specifically). Usually a few questions asking about what type of guy he is (is he jealous is a great one) and you can tell. If she's talking shit about him, then you probably still have some chance. But if she's talking about how great he is then move on.
/r/seduction14/04/14 10:13 AM
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It's a story. A story needs support characters, protagonists, antagonists, conflict and resolution. I sincerely wouldn't focus on the details of his life when reading the story as there are some obvious lies involved. It's not much but in the first two pages of the book he references a rusty Corvette which is impossible since they're fiberglass. The description itself is hardly important but it establishes that he's not opposed to bending the truth in order to provide a better read.
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:38 PM
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Let the white knighting begin. This isn't a place to judge. If the guy wants to date taken women either give him advice or don't. Don't tell him he's wrong for it or that he shouldn't. To OP the course of action doesn't change. Just don't act like you care if she has a boyfriend. She'll either not like that or she will. If she's willing to cheat then she won't care if she has a boyfriend either.
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:32 PM
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I'll agree with this somewhat. To answer his question more accurately I think it's best to say that it depends on where your priorities in life are. A guy who does nothing but obsess over women will find they never grow out of their high-school crush phase, whereas men who move on to love other things will.
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:30 PM
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Being perfect isn't about not thinking you're wrong as much as realizing that there is no universal right and if there is you're just as much "it" as anyone else. One man's flaw is another's gain. I have thought about this for years and I keep coming back to the realization that "better" is subjective. Those "perfect blinds" aren't about being right or wrong, they're about owning who I am because there is no such thing as perfection. If that makes me arrogant then I'm all for it. And I think tha…
/r/seduction10/04/14 09:53 AM
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As long as you aren't condescending to others and don't just obsess over it what's so wrong with arrogance? I mean since discovering this and doing things like getting a new job, working out, etc., I think I'm fucking awesome but don't talk down anyone else. But I've found if I bring up to people the idea that I think I'm a-fucking-mazing they think it's arrogant even when I don't compare myself to anyone else. My question to those people is what's so wrong with thinking you're perfect just the …
/r/seduction10/04/14 08:57 AM
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Honestly, yeah. He makes it seem so simple it's hard not to. Like it really is just about just replacing bad habits with good ones. He teaches you to do your best to use emotions to drive you. Like associate the negative self-talk with pain (which is what it ultimately causes) and associate confidence and positive self-reinforcement with pleasure and joy. It doesn't take hold over night but it works IMO.
/r/seduction09/04/14 06:52 AM
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Honestly yeah, but you could start with Awaken The Giant Within.
/r/seduction09/04/14 03:06 AM
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Dude, Tony Robbins. *mind blown* Everything he says makes it seem so simple. He talks about how we're creatures of habit who follow patterns or rituals. The reason we are fat is because we've established a pattern of overeating. The reason we're insecure is because we've established patterns of negative thoughts. He teaches you how to relearn these new patterns and is amazing.
/r/seduction08/04/14 09:11 PM
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You don't have to look down on women to not put them on a pedestal. Redpill works but is unnecessary. It may be easier for some, but it carries excess baggage.
/r/seduction08/04/14 02:28 AM
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So I'm not a virgin but I have been clueless. Before Seddit I talked to and acted around women all wrong. I'm kinda cute (so I've been told by quite a few girls) so the only times I'd hook up was when aggressive girls came on to me. But the first time that happened I was 21. Since Seddit though I can see the difference. You can just tell which girls are DTF and it's way more than I thought before. And when I talk to them now I can see them slowly fall for me. Its crazy.
/r/seduction08/04/14 02:08 AM
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Just a theory but I feel like guys who try to keep a level of plausible deniability do way worse than those who don't. You have to ask a girl out in a way you can't really back out of, something crystal clear.
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:15 PM
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I don't follow. Cocky girls need guys too, and they know it. You just get to be more ornery and rougher with them. No reason not to be optimistic. Cocky /= bitch
/r/seduction07/04/14 10:39 AM
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I find girls always think they're kinkier and wilder than they are. No girl thinks she's a basic bitch lol
/r/seduction07/04/14 03:10 AM
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Please do cause I have problems telling the difference between conservative submissive and kinky submissive.
/r/seduction07/04/14 03:09 AM
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Either that or they're cocky enough to believe you. Legit day game approach is pretty rare for a girl TBH. Some insecure girls just might not believe the guy, but those confident in themselves to feel like they could get picked up even in the middle of the day will be more apt to go along with it.
/r/seduction06/04/14 09:19 PM
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I don't know if you should say it or not but I would have said, "But how am I supposed to know you're worth it yet?" Then again I'm pretty new to this, but it would have been a genuine question on my part.
/r/seduction06/04/14 11:54 AM
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Be more bold at the beginning. Draw attention with your huge balls and fun-loving personality. I admittedly am pretty new to this too but I'm 5'8" and 135 so I get your feels. It's all about being cocky. I swear us smaller guys can get away with more ballsy things without being too intimidating, so just straight up walk up to her and be like, "Hey, you're cute, what's your name?"
/r/seduction05/04/14 09:44 PM
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Walk up to girl, "Hey you're really cute, what's your name?" Works. From there it's just about getting to know each other a bit, plus the music will make kino seem normal.
/r/seduction05/04/14 09:39 PM
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I wouldn't worry what other people think of you in any way. Personally I'd rather strike while the iron is hot and risk looking too interested in a girl than the opposite. Plus if you made yourself clear she KNOWS you like her. So calling earlier can actually do you some good in the sense that you're being congruent with what you said about her.
/r/seduction05/04/14 07:31 AM
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Even so it was pretty cool for her to go from "meh" to "hey." I guess what blew my mind was that I picked up on a 9 or 10 (my friend didn't like her that much cause she was skinny like a model and he likes phat ass lol) but I felt like she was kind of out of my league to be honest. Now I see those things are just in my head.
/r/seduction05/04/14 03:24 AM
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So why should I follow your advice, I'm already getting advice from someone else? That's kind of a stubborn impression of what I said. I admitted you can take snippets of advice from others but you should have one main source for your information. And yeah, you should definitely sample everyone to see who clicks for you. I didn't really explain that well. But somewhere out there in the sea of pick-up artists is a guy who has a similar mindset to your own who will click and make sense to you. Fin…
/r/seduction05/04/14 02:58 AM
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You're giving in to fear. Remember when you were a kid the first time you jumped off a diving board or did something else scary? Where is that guy? Where's the kid who was afraid but went ahead and did it anyway? If you had to do something just as scary as jumping off that diving board was as a kid would you do it as an adult? For most, the sad answer is no. Most of us aren't willing to try new things and overcome fear the way we did as a kid. It's up to you to find your child-like abandon and j…
/r/seduction04/04/14 11:21 PM
1

Relax, man. You're fine just the way you are. I've gone 3-4 days without leaving the house other than to go to work. No big deal. That being said if you want your life to change it starts from the inside. One thing, how devestating it was for me to learn it, is to not put so much emphasis on "having friends." Just know people. Hang out with them occasionally, but don't put labels on it. Sometimes these people you hang out with end up being guys or girls you hang out with quite often. But it's no…
/r/seduction04/04/14 10:41 PM
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Make it so, buddy. Make it so. :-)
/r/seduction04/04/14 10:31 PM
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Just wait until you get to kino. The first time you put your hand around a girl's waist and she pulls into you you're gonna be like, "Is this for real?"
/r/seduction04/04/14 07:21 PM
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Is this some sort of motivational video for seduction? Cause it kind of worked.
/r/seduction04/04/14 07:19 PM
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Care to explain this? I'm obviously new to this, so I would like to know how and why. To clarify she never acted rude or completely uninterested me. She was just very, "meh" at first (maybe she thought I was kinda cute but too short?). Then after a bit when I was more assertive she warmed up to me way more, even grinding up on me while we danced.
/r/seduction04/04/14 07:07 PM
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I think what happened is awesome and great, but I think it's important to understand that desire to not fuck things up is what will hold you back from here on out. First off, you're assuming there's something you can do to fuck it up, which may be true but in my experience fucking up is usually more of the case of what you don't do than anything. Second off worrying about screwing something up puts you inside your head which will make you more apt to indeed screw something up. I know you're new …
/r/seduction04/04/14 12:11 AM
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I think you hit the nail on the head, bro. You don't have to be great. You can even be slightly awkward. It's really a lot easier to get laid than people on here think as long as you put yourself into situations and "Always Be Closing" There's a difference between seduction and being alpha. Although being alpha will get you laid usually (though it won't if you don't approach or escalate female approaches) it's not necessary. Dude was just being himself, owning his awkwardness and it paid off. TH…
/r/seduction03/04/14 09:52 PM
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