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Exner2/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 04:59 PM
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Exner2/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 08:07 PM
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I agree with this. I'm a pretty direct person, but the times where I default to "it's nothing, nevermind" with my husband are the times when I feel like continuing the conversation would likely lead to an argument that I don't want to have. Usually because I intuit (correctly or not) that he's not in the mood to listen to what I have to say. It's a huge generalization, but I think women are often less likely to share what they're thinking or feeling if they believe the person they're talking to …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/14 12:44 AM
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It's more common in academia to conceptualize gender identity and behavior as a product of biology (eg, hormones) and environment. It's difficult to tease those things apart because our life experiences have a measurable impact on our neural pathways and even brain structure (google trauma/PTSD and the brain, for example). And so much neural growth occurs in childhood that learned behaviors can become as "hardwired" as those that may be more innate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 11:25 PM
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I encounter rude/ unpleasant men AND women multiple times a week. But the context is important, as I work in the middle of a major metropolitan area in a hospital setting, and the patients (and many staff!) are all pretty tough. But I also encounter lovely people with far greater frequency. I see no overall difference between men and women in the rate of unpleasant behavior, though it may manifest differently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 03:37 PM
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It's hard to "source" this, but as a woman, I also would say this happens frequently. I would go as far as saying in most FWB situations there is one person who wants it to be more, and that person could be male or female.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/14 04:36 PM
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Well, thanks! And, absolutely. It's an asset professionally, but not as great in my personal life. In the past, I've tended to defer to others because 1) I'm pretty easy-going, and 2) I can clearly understand why they feel the way they do. I've gotten increasingly assertive (or just been more willing and able to stick to my guns) as I've gotten older. I also agree that being tuned in to the emotional undercurrents of any given situation can be uncomfortable, at times, and sometimes it might be n…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 10:57 AM
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I'm the outlier here, I think. EQ - 69, SQ - 11.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/14 02:38 AM
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I was a nearsighted nerd with permed hair and big glasses until the end of the 6th grade, when I got contact lenses. Like a cheesy 80s movie where the geeky girl is miraculously transformed by taking off her glasses, I became "hot" and "popular" almost overnight. I started dating a little bit, or "dating," which mostly consisted of passing notes and playing spin the bottle at parties. Fast forward to high school. I had very little parental supervision and an artsy, rebellious group of friends. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 01:11 AM
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But even from a TRP or a biological perspective, it makes perfect sense. A monogamous male provides resources and protection, whereas these benefits are obviously lessened if the male is providing for and/or protecting multiple women or families.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 12:40 PM
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You really appear to be trying awfully hard to be a sociopath. Most people who cultivate a sociopathic persona do so because it gives them a sense of control in a seemingly cruel world. You may believe that your choice is to be a victim or victimizer, so you're going to take what's yours first before anyone tries to take it from you. But this is a pretty dangerous road, if you are IRL anything like you are on reddit. For example, people with this personality constellation have a much greater ris…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:46 PM
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I agree with you, and have often thought of TRP as a kind of twisted version of the public speaking advice "imagine the audience is in their underwear!" And they would probably agree that much of the power of TRP lies in taking women down a few pegs (or more than a few) while building themselves up. I'm all for confidence-boosting and recognizing ones value. And the idea of viewing women as fallible human beings as opposed to intimidating super-beings makes good sense. But TRP goes way off the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/14 04:30 PM
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Considering that almost 40% of support payments are never made after a divorce, it's a pretty tough racket out there for us "gold digging whores"! I'm speaking as a wife and mom who financially supports my family 100% while my husband goes to school. And I'm not by any means unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 09:43 PM
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Imagine the following scenario: a man and woman meet, fall in love, and get married. They get pregnant and have two kids. The man has a decent job and they mutually decide the woman should stay home and raise the kids, because she makes not much more than the cost of childcare (let's say, conservatively, $25K/year for two kids). Over time, the marriage becomes toxic. It's neither of their faults, or rather, both of their faults. They try couples counseling, doesn't work. They're fighting all the…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 09:29 PM
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Or marry a woman with a good education and career. Maybe you'll be the one getting alimony if you divorce. And/or, get a prenup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/14 11:28 AM
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I am actually in agreement with a lot of people here in that I so believe our educational system is failing students generally, and failing boys in particular. We do need more male teachers, more physical activity, and more flexibility in the curricula to allow for different learning styles. Since No Child Left Behind, the educational system has become increasingly rigid and so much of the joy of learning has been lost. Teachers are under incredible amounts of stress and no longer have the time …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:55 PM
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Well, that's not true. It's definitely an increasingly known issue - as evidenced even in this thread by the many links to articles and books that have been published.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:45 PM
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I'm not going to tackle your comment on the "feminist indoctrination machine," but historically males have received much more attention from teachers than girls. It's just not always "positive" attention, as boys are more likely to exhibit behaviors that many teachers struggle to manage (eg, calling out, getting of their chair, etc). Studies show that girls are also less likely to be called on than boys if they are raising their hands. As long as they are quiet, girls are often overlooked in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:41 PM
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Thank you, I did not have much time to look. But I will admit that when I searched TRP I saw less upvoted posts like that than I expected. They were definitely there, but not incredibly popular. So that's a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 04:29 PM
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Seriously? There are so many. Let me see what I can find.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 01:36 AM
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Cool. They're also more likely to marry and less likely to divorce than women who are not college educated. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/39560763/ns/health-behavior/t/college-educated-young-adults-more-likely-marry/#.U9mXv5K9KSM
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 01:25 AM
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And it's bs. Women (and men) whose self-worth is dependent on their partner are likely to partner hop and try to trade up. But there's a reason why college educated women have a divorce rate that is HALF that of non-college educated women. I think I'm going to start a post on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 12:45 AM
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This is exactly right.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 12:19 AM
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Ahhh that's the worst thing I've read today. Please, please, please let this man be sterile.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:32 PM
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I think you guys must have missed some of the posts I've seen by people identifying as TRP in this sub. Things like 'I'd never date a white woman who slept with black men because she is obviously a whore with a twisted sexual fetish'. I'm not exaggerating, and while uncommon these kind of posts aren't isolated. And conceptually, doesn't it make sense that some people who believe that gender differences are dictated by biology and evolution would also hold the same kind of beliefs about racial di…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:21 PM
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I'm actually glad to hear that's been your experience. But I'm referring to what I've seen among a subset of TRP who identify as "race realists" or believers of "human biodiversity," which is essentially code for white supremacy. They would quibble over whether this actually makes them racist.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:09 PM
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Honestly, I came here out of concern. And ultimately that's why I stay, although there have been some very interesting discussions in this sub. I feel like there are a few subtypes of people who are drawn to TRP - it's not monolithic by any means. But the "formerly beta" guys who have had minimal success with women are the primary type, and beneath all the discussion and debate there is a kind of war for their soul going on. Because for the most part, these are decent people who have just had a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 11:40 AM
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Sorry, not bekkjarlalli but I'll jump in here. I also feel like there's some disturbing thinking going on in 2famous' post, although for me the worst is the last part: but no shes" frozen and fears for her life!" what do i have in here that is so horrifying she cant even leave? dead bodies? typical feminist hysteria Dude, you clearly have no idea how trauma impacts people, regardless of gender. And if someone with a trauma hx says no, "freezes," and you have sex with her anyway, you would not ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 02:06 AM
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I'm increasingly getting the sense that LMR is something that people encounter with people they have met out that same night...? No judgment there, and maybe it's obvious, but I'm getting the sense that this is mostly an issue that occurs between people who don't know each other well (or at all).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:27 AM
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I appreciated your comment, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:25 AM
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I trust you. Can I ask, were most of these encounters outside of the context of a relationship? Like casual hookups, one night stands?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:24 AM
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Just plodding away at a big meat log that doesn't respond. This made me laugh out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:22 AM
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I think you sound like a really reasonable guy, and I agree with you that the uncertainty around sex is more of a young person issue. This really should be unusual among consenting adults, which is probably why I'm left scratching my head as my peer group is in the 25+ category. But this I'm not so sure about: That's why it's so preposterous to say that things like this encourage rape. This is aimed at those guys that were striking out because they were too passive and listened to women, a rapis…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 01:19 AM
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I think this is a pretty silly question. Who around here has said that "really nice guy" is the single attribute they are looking for in a partner? Regardless, there probably ARE some women out there who really are just looking for a good-hearted man and would date a nice guy with few other redeeming qualities. But I'm a believer that people typically date other people of similar attractiveness to themselves, and that doesn't mean just physical attractiveness. All of the person's qualities are p…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 12:58 AM
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Have an up vote! I was noticing an unusual amount of that, myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/14 01:51 PM
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Good example, thanks .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:36 PM
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Yup, that was the point I was trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:34 PM
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Except , like it or not, physically forcing yourself on a woman is not the only kind if "actual rape" according to the law. Coercion, abuse of authority, and lack of ability to consent also meet the legal definition of rape. Again, it doesn't really matter if you agree or not, in a court of law "rape" is much more nuanced than holding someone down.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:31 PM
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So if a woman is making out with you, tells you she doesn't want to have sex and continues making out with you as she is trusting you that you will respect her boundary, that's implied consent that she actually wants to have sex? You better get that in writing, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:27 PM
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That makes sense and seems OK to me, as long as the woman is cool with the escalation. ETA: I just re-read my comment, and wanted to make clear that I'm NOT cool with escalation if someone is saying they don't want to have sex. I was saying I was OK specifically with what cxj was describing, which sounded like a pretty low-key response to someone "playfully" saying they're not sure what they want to do. For example, he mentioned backing off, kissing, making jokes - I think all that's basically O…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:22 PM
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Have you been hit a lot by women? Again, I'm asking because I wonder how common that kind of behavior really is. Unless you're dealing with emotionally unstable teenage girls or Jersey Shore cast members. Then again, I'm in my early 30s so this difference could be generational to an extent. All I know is that "in my day" girls weren't frequently going around hitting guys. Not that I've never heard of a girl slapping her bf, but it's rare (and unacceptable).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:16 PM
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I used the word "fickle" in response to the following comment, which was not about sex: It is a woman's prerogative to change her mind on a moment's notice about pretty much anything.| I don't think he was saying that "women have the right to do this, as do men." I think he was implying that this is something women do, or are permitted to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:15 PM
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I saw a lot of that in high school. Maybe some in early college. It's not usually a straight up no though. Its more, "I don't know if we should", "maybe we should wait" or the most common line I heard, "I don't want you to think I'm a slut" or some derivation thereof.| Ahh, OK. I'm familiar with this. But you've also got to understand that many young women - especially in high school - ARE equivocal about sex. Their parents and other adults are likely to be sending very clear and scary messages …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 04:11 PM
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Not holding frame is what has singlehandedly ruined more relationships than I can count. I lost a lot of friends in my most blue pill period, some healthy some unhealthy.| Is it possible to give a example or two of what not holding frame looked like for you, and how it ruined relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 01:26 AM
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As someone who I presume leans RP, you should be familiar with the differences in male-female communication. Women are socialized to avoid conflict, to be agreeable. It's very difficult for some women to out their foot down, and could actually be frightening to do this with a man (especially if they do not know him well) who is perceived to be stronger or more aggressive. Saying "omg stop, no" when giggling COULD mean "ok, maybe," but it very easily could also mean, "I'm nervous and I really mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 09:15 PM
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I basically agree with you, although I'd disagree that fickleness is just a female thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 08:43 PM
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It's not like rpers are the only ones confused and struggling over this. Even bpers argue among themselves over whether "sure" means "no" (due to lack of enthusiasm) or if it is enough to mean "yes". I totally agree, I think this is a confusing area for a lot of people and I'm empathic to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 08:40 PM
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I agree with you on the self-awareness and caring less about social judgement thing. I think that's true in general as people get older.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 08:38 PM
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As a female, I've taken that very seriously. I've never said "no" and meant "yes." which disproves it? proves otherwise?| No, but this is ultimately the basis for my question. I've never experienced it, and never knew that "no means no" was really a matter of debate until reading recent posts here and those linking to TRP. its not a matter of "no" or "yes" as much as an uncertainty...perhaps a part of her wants to fuck, but some other component to the situation is making her reluctant or uncomfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 08:37 PM
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Yes, let's look at the exact quote: So when is it rape instead of ravishment? Aside from obvious cases of drugging someone or having sex with the unconscious (for the feminazi retards: No one here condones these instances of legitimate rape) the difference is strictly in the disparity of your SMV's.| That speaks for itself, doesn't it? OP says "legitimate rape" occurs when a woman is when drugged or unconscious. Otherwise, it's "strictly in the disparity of your SMVs." Meaning a man of high SMV …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 11:47 AM
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That's not how I read it. At one point he said a woman can't be raped by a Fortune 500 guy with big muscles. No question of consent, because in OPs mind a woman can't help but consent if the guy is rich and/or brawny enough. I'm sure 9/10 rapists would agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 03:17 AM
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I can't believe OP wrote this inane post. I see that some people are theorizing that OP "didn't really mean rape" or somehow misunderstands what rape is, but I don't think so. He literally says a woman can't be raped by a Fortune 500 dude with muscles. WTF, TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 02:51 AM
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You are clearly in the wrong here. There is an enormous difference between fantasy and reality. Come on, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 02:44 AM
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If you don't enforce a sort of rigid ideological conformity in the public space, every opinion from outside your worldview is a camel's nose under the tent and within days the whole project, no matter what it is, will be wholly changed to a leftist, feminist, SJW project. | I believe this logic is shared by the government of North Korea. If TRP would disintegrate so quickly if conformity was not strictly enforced, doesn't that tell you something? The sub is not a debate space, it is a place for …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 01:55 AM
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That's a good point, but in the military soldiers are trained to de-emphasize their individual identities and to operate as a collective entity. Military hierarchy is essential to the achievement of the mission, and dissent threatens survival of the individual soldiers and the system as a whole. In contrast, TRP is theoretically all about the betterment of the individual and expressly NOT about what is best for others. In my opinion, any strengths and unique insights of TRP are greatly weakened …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 08:22 PM
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I do suspect that there is some resentment of the mods, at least of those who are behaving like dictators. In many ways, it's ironic that TRPers are expected to follow the leaders blindly without question or dissent. Is that kind of passivity alpha behavior? This fascistic approach is also likely to have a negative impact on the content of the sub. There's a reason why journalism is, ideally, objective and independent of government control. If members are forced to toe the party line and denied …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:32 PM
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The takeaway point for me is not that women are necessarily subject to more attacks online, but that the nature of these attacks is often different. It's unusual to hear of men - straight men, at least - threatening rape or stalking each other. That shit is scary. The reality is, there are misogynistic assholes out there, and a small minority of these people are unhinged and violent. There are also some crazy, violent racists out there. Women and people of color still have to be alert to the pos…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 05:09 PM
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Thank you for your critique. When I have time to find a study that provides a counter argument, I certainly will. In the meantime, I understand that you do not personally value pointing out the possible flaws of a research study. But from my perspective, when a clearly flawed study is claimed to "prove" something, it's worthy of pointing that out. It doesn't mean "let's not discuss this," but rather let's take it with a grain of salt. Also, it's not my experience with this sub that every post mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 11:36 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 01:10 AM
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Honestly, I'm aware of that tendency and considered not posting my comment. But this article seemed so scientifically dubious that I struggled to get around it. It's also hard to say much about about the actual findings of the study because they're being discussed second-hand, and there is no link to the actual research. But...based on what is here, I think the study is raises some questions. My first thought was, I wonder if men and women were asked to rate their sexual desire in general, or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 01:07 AM
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Listen, not all research is created equal. Some studies involve validated measures and protocols and NIMH funding. Other studies, such as this one, consist of an interview conducted at an unnamed department at Hamburg-Eppendorph University. And the only person they could get to comment on the article is an evolutionary psychologist. So...hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 08:58 PM
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Confidence is the belief that your thoughts, feelings, and actions have value, even - and perhaps especially - when they differ from others.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 11:42 AM
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Beautifully said!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 09:00 PM
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I don't think there's one answer to this, but I think my husband is an interesting example of a "natural." He's just super socially astute and funny as hell. And very comfortable with himself, which puts others at ease. I've always noticed that other guys tend to look up to him and often defer to him. Women, on the other hand, tend to feel very comfortable with him and he has lots of friends of both sexes. This is kind of weird to write but I think it also speaks to his appeal: he has always dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/14 05:33 PM
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No one is a mind-reader. Communication brings issues to the foreground so they can be dealt with. Rarely can issues be handled JUST through talking, however - some behavioral change is also required. In my own experience, communication is probably 50%, and the rest is action. Some issues (especially if they've already been talked to death) require no talking at all, instead one or both partners just need to step up and try something different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/14 03:37 AM
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Well, as is the case with most binaries, the "truth" is far more complex and nuanced and difficult to pin down. For example, many people at TRP argue that BP men are deluded "betas" who are physically weak and unsuccessful with women. In contrast, many blue pillers argue that TRP is filled with young men who are somewhere on the autism spectrum and have little social or sexual success. Basically, both are pointing fingers at the other and yelling, "neckbeard!!!" In reality, there's probably more…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 01:56 AM
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I'd be happy to weigh in, as well, if someone starts a thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 12:46 AM
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Very well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 12:44 AM
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Haha, glad you know the reference! I grew up with that album. I read your other post and I largely agree with you. I especially like your point about people being able to live how they want without the pressure of social forces. I also agree that the biggest contradiction between RPW and feminism is RPW's tendency to generalize about what will work in a relationship on the basis of one's gender. I just do not at all think it's that simple, although I appreciate that the dynamics and tips describ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 12:27 AM
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I kinda think this post was written by a teenage boy IRL. True?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 05:41 PM
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And if a parent told their child that no one will love them if they're too fat, too skinny, too whatever, that would be a cynical load of crap. And quite possibly setting them up for a lifetime of therapy and massive emotional issues. A good parent wants their child to develop a positive self-esteem and not to internalize feelings of inadequacy. Children with higher self-esteem are able to set goals and achieve them, have an easier time interpersonally, and are less likely to develop depression,…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 03:28 PM
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Yes, totally this. The people I know who have gotten the most action were all performers of some kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 02:03 PM
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I was being a little tongue in cheek. It basically just means they are hot. I broke that down further in my initial post.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/14 02:02 PM
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I'm fine with it. I have friends (mostly female, actually) who date significantly younger people and at worst I think it says something about the older person's maturity level and can occasionally look like the older person is a bit desperate to hang onto some version of their younger selves. But ultimately, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 09:41 PM
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I'd be interested in hearing more about how you reconcile the two positions. I'm a very "free to be you and me!" kind of feminist in that I believe people have the right to live however they want, as long as no one is being harmed or coerced. So if that means a specific woman is happiest in a more traditional or submissive role, more power to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 09:34 PM
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Because they've got it going on? No one I know well, male or female, has slept with 100s of people. But the most sexually prolific guys I know are good-looking, confident, and open to casual sex. And perhaps most importantly - they LIKE women. Openly. They are clearly comfortable with women and enjoy their company.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 09:21 PM
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Agree completely with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 03:40 PM
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Not at all. Before my husband, I was always attracted to tall, thin guys. Zero % "lifted," and all were considered to be pretty great looking by almost l of the girls I knew. I like artsy types, and lots of gym time has always been a turn-off to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 03:36 PM
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1) How and when did you discover TRP and HBD theory? Which came first for you? 2) I don't have the time right now to look through your post history, but in general (prior to this AMA) you have left with with the impression that you are a well-spoken but extremely angry, even hateful, young guy. If you are being brutally honest with yourself, is this a correct interpretation? If so, what do you think is the reason behind your anger? 3) do you ever consciously experience cognitive dissonance? For …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/14 11:08 AM
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This very much describes my experience, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/14 08:32 PM
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As with everything, I think there is a social and biological component. I do believe that men are, on average, more driven to have sex with lots o' women and tend to be pretty insatiable in the early stages of a sexual relationship with someone. But I think women are, on average, more inclined to want to have sex with one partner and are better at sustaining attraction and sex drive over time with the same person. In other words, I think women may be generally less likely to get bored if they're…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/14 08:31 PM
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I wear subtle makeup pretty much very day, and have been wearing some makeup since I was about 12. I've always gone for a "no makeup makeup" look and will amp it up a little if I'm going out. It does make me feel more put together, and as I result I feel more confident. I don't have any goals in regard to how people do or don't perceive me, aside from hoping that people don't really notice that I'm wearing any makeup at all. At most, I'd hope they think I have nice skin and look awake, haha. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/14 08:08 PM
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Everyone is disposable and most women (in a romantic context) are completely interchangeable. They have no value to me anymore than whatever services they provide.| Do you have friends? I'm being serious. Are there people you connect with more than others in friendship? If so, why wouldn't a similar phenomenon be possible when interacting with women - I mean, isn't it possible that you would naturally connect more with some women than with others?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 10:00 PM
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Agree, very well said. I also identify as a feminist who is concerned about both men's and women's issues. Crazy extremists exist in every movement, but as the previous poster stated, feminism is not a hateful ideology. It is, however, often misunderstood. I think there are many people who believe in gender equality but who do not identify as feminist due to significant stigma and popular misconception around what feminism really is. But for now, it's still the best term we've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 05:58 PM
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The last time I "broke" was when I met my husband. I had just moved to a new city and was technically still in a relationship although we were both openly unhappy and discussing a breakup. My husband (who was visiting from out of town) and I met through mutual friends and immediately hit it off, more than I have ever connected with anyone. My husband and I hooked up that weekend and I ended it officially with my ex immediately. I still feel badly that I didn't end the relationship before I met m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 05:37 PM
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I also started using girl game on my boss and the guys at work; I started being more encouraging and supportive...when I started being softer and smiling more, everything that I had fought for before was handed to me after. | It's interesting that you have a term for this, and that the term is "girl game." In my experience, this is human behavior 101: people like to be around likeable people. At work, if you are competent and good to be around (eg, funny, encouraging, friendly) you've got it mad…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 01:04 AM
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Re-reading, I don't think this guy changed at all when he discovered TRP, he just got a new vocabulary that he uses to try to describe/legitimize his shitty behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 12:33 AM
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This guy seems like a total dick and will probably die alone. That said, I was heartened to see that many of TRP commenters also seemed to think he seemed like an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/14 12:11 AM
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Aretha Franklin's "Respect" for BP. Rolling Stones' "Under my Thumb" for TRP
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 11:42 PM
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And it could be argued that BDSM is way more mainstream than TRP in regard to sheer numbers and name recognizability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 11:39 PM
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I think it would be a very particular woman who would be "converted" by TRP, as that sub is often hostile in regards to women and is certainly not written "for" women. So reading it as a woman, there is very little sense of identification. Finding and being converted by RPW would be more realistic. And you can take a look at their posts to see how that has impacted them and their relationships with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/14 04:35 PM
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I just don't know how common this scenario is. I have honestly never seen it among my peers that I can recall.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 08:52 PM
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This is a side note, but I totally agree. Husband and I both work, both cook
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 08:51 PM
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TRP can't have it both ways. You can't complain about feminism and working women in one breath, and then complain that "BP" women are using "beta" me for their money. In virtually every "BP" couple I have ever known, both partners have worked and contributed to the bills. When kids come into the picture, they do what makes the most financial sense for the family and what meets the needs of the kids the best. I have truthfully never directly witnessed the scenario you are describing in a "BP" rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 07:56 PM
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[–]JohnyBoi95http://www.reddit.com/r/captioncontest 2 points 10 hours ago I agree with this RP would say sumn sumn feminists| You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/14 04:02 AM
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There's truth to this. Males with a certain "dark triad" personality type tend to head into an antisocial direction, whereas women of the same type tend to become borderline or histrionic. They're all "cluster B" personality disorders with the same core features.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 12:02 PM
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My mom. She is a feminist who grew up in poverty, pulled herself out of it entirely on her own, has multiple degrees, and a career she loved. I always admired those qualities. One thing that also influenced me, however, was her unhappiness in her marriage to my dad. My dad is a lovely, but extremely passive, man. Less "beta" than disengaged. So I knew I wanted someone who would really be an equal partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 01:57 AM
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Ah yes, "wifely skills." Listen, I'm your nightmare on paper: I'm a western, agnostic, educated, employed, attractive female living in an urban area. Even though I never "slutted around," I can guarantee my number is too high for you. And I voted for Obama! I'm terrible LTR material, right? Wrong. I'm a great wife. I've been with my husband for 10 years. I've never cheated and cannot imagine a situation where I ever would. I am his biggest cheerleader and advocate, and he is mine. I am supportin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 09:55 PM
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Obviously, I fundamentally differ from TRP in that I believe you reap what you sow. Karma. Whatever you want to call it. But I have always find that what you put out there comes back to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 03:44 PM
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What a good question. As a female I'm imagining that "swallowing the red pill" would have the following effects: 1) believing my place is in the home, caring for children and being the "first mate" to an alpha male provider; 2) accepting that there is a double-standard around sexuality and that I would be viewed as a "slut" if I had sex with more than 1-2 people before marriage. Ok, I'm going to work backwards here. I wouldn't be a doctor. I wouldn't have helped the people I have helped in my ro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:51 PM
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Dude, has TRP taught you nothing?! (Kidding, sort of). One place where I actually believe there may be a statistically significant difference between the sexes relates to the desire for casual sex with multiple partners. Most women I know (including myself) are monogamy-oriented and tend to get all googly about the guy they're hooking up with. I don't know that I've ever even liked more than one guy at a time. So while hot guys are awesome, the idea of "having sex with as many hot guys as possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 02:09 AM
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Dude. Please understand that you are not speaking about people in general, but rather appear to be talking about a small subset of club-hopping partiers who are looking to hook up. Outside of that culture, it's actually still quite normal to "settle down" into a LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 01:13 AM
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Truthfully, what percentage of young women do you believe engage in this behavior? The way you are writing it, it seems like one big rationalization for crappy behavior in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 01:05 AM
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You know, I actually agree with you here in principle. But I offer this alternative possibility. I think women who are not as traditionally attractive (let's say overweight, for an example) may actually receive more unwanted attention from random strangers because they are viewed as more approachable and/or as having less social value (making it easier for someone to engage in behavior they might otherwise keep in check).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:34 AM
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And for the record, most "nice girls" don't walk into a bar and say "I'll fuck the first person who buys me a drink tonight!" Pretty much by definition, they would cease to be a "nice girl" in that very moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:17 AM
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I can't help but think of a classic love triangle (or quadrangle) that I've seen over and over again: Nice girl pines for nice guy, who is pining for hot unavailable girl, who in turn is pining (and usually sleeping with) hot and even more unavailable guy. I can think of seriously 5 immediate examples of this pattern off the top of my head. While it may be true that the "nice guy" isn't getting laid in this scenario, it's equally true that the "nice girl" is being overlooked.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:14 AM
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Couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:06 AM
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I disagree. Most women I know prefer being in LTRs, which remains the domain of the nice good guy/girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 11:58 PM
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But do we really tell young boys to not get crazy and to be husband material? I'm not a male so I may be missing some subtle messages here, but I haven't met many boys/young men who seem to be striving to embody that ideal. Perhaps it's that I have grown up and lived exclusively in east coast U.S. cities (New York, Philly, D.C.) so I may have a regional bias of sorts. But most young men I've known have been VERY interested in "getting crazy" and have not shown much interest in "being husband mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 11:39 PM
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Ok here's the thing. Socially awkward, nice girls aren't doing so great on the high school dating market, either. And unless you are looking to get married, a lot of young people - male and female - aren't looking for anything "serious." Which means a lot of really nice people of both genders get passed over. TRP talks a lot about how "any girl can get laid, anytime." But in fact, a lot of people on TRP then go on to admit that there are a lot of girls (e.g., "too fat," "too ugly") who are essen…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 10:02 PM
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It's interesting, because psychology is widely considered to be a STEM field ( for example , by the National Science Foundation and the US govt). Just FYI.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 03:05 AM
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Yup, this is the model we're going for. We both wanted kids and a rewarding career. It's hard to coordinate at times but we're happy, and I can't imagine that either of us would be happier staying home full time or working so much that we don't have time with family. It works for us, and I'm thankful we have the option to do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 03:02 AM
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Stats on this? Totally contrary to my personal experience and knowledge of the field.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 02:57 AM
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Why would anyone have downvoted this? It really bugs me when people downvote without comment. Up vote for balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 01:17 AM
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To be honest, what you are describing sounds like a traditional marriage. Which is great. But your descriptive statement: LTR RP isn't about plate spinning or demanding hot meals. Its about give and take equally.| doesn't sound like anything that it have seen before on TRP. Granted, I haven't spent much time on RPW, but there seems to be a pretty big gulf between TRP and RPW (who strike me as more like you in that they are trying to make a traditional marriage work in a society where that is inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 01:08 AM
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I think fanaticism is generally off-putting, regardless of the belief system. I think I do tend to be fairly moderate and I don't really see myself as adhering to a particular ideology, so it typically does take what I see as extremism to shake me up (your cats and dogs comment didn't bother me in the least, on a side note). In general, I think dogma is bs and I appreciate people who can think critically about their own beliefs and not just those held by others.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 12:07 AM
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A weak-E'd ENFP, although that was about a decade ago. Much has changed since then!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 09:35 PM
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I think age is a moderating variable here. The major task of young adulthood is establishing one's identity. Teenagers in particular, but also twenty-somethings, are often plagued with insecurities and questions and self-doubt. The DT type is appealing because they seem to know who they are (even if who they are is arguably shitty) and don't appear to care about what others think. This kind of confidence is intoxicating for the more typical young person, who longs to feel that kind of security i…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 04:56 PM
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Both men and women can be childlike. While women face less social stigma around showing their emotions (and are thus freer to cry, pout, and engage in other "childish" behavior), for men anger is viewed as an acceptable emotion. So men are often more likely to engage in angry or aggressive behavior (even if the underlying emotion is, in fact, sadness) which can be as "childish" as crying or whining. In fact, if you look at your average toddler classroom, what do you see? Some kids are crying, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 04:34 PM
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I'm glad that you've found something that has worked in your own relationship I think one of the things I take issue with re: TRPis the idea that these principles apply to virtually every relationship. A personal example: I love my husband's confidence, humor, and overall social graces, but I find the more dominant parts of his personality to be the most challenging to deal with. I grew in a very egalitarian home where everyone had a voice, and I don't like it if my opinions aren't given equal w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 12:32 PM
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That's great that you've both found things about TRP that work for you. While I'm not sure that my husband and I would benefit much from the techniques, after reading so much I can't help but apply a TRP lens to our relationship at times. For example, from a RP standpoint, my husband is definitely a "natural alpha." He's very outgoing, funny, well-liked, but also can be tough. He doesn't take shit and he's opinionated and assertive. So, strangely even though I disagree with many aspects of TRP I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 01:59 AM
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I'm not subscribed either. I browse occasionally but I find myself wanting to write a rebuttal to the things I read, and I know that sub is not really open for debate. And I try to respect that the members view it as a space where they don't need to censor themselves. As for the more objectionable RP stuff, you see it to an extent on this sub, too. The women are like children, women will leave/cheat on you in a heartbeat for a more "alpha" man, etc. lines of thinking are pretty rampant. Things g…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 12:54 AM
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I was thinking of asking this exact same question, and I think it's an interesting one. I discovered the existence of TRP a few months ago after the younger brother of a friend of mine starting posting anti-feminist rhetoric on FB. My friends and family are not at all conservative and this was really out of left field. This kid had seemed lonely for awhile, and I was concerned about him. I started reading some of the links he posted (like "just four guys") and was...let's just say taken aback. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 12:12 AM
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Psychology is considered to be a STEM field by virtually every official organization that weighs in on these things, most notably the NSF and the US govt.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 11:32 AM
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Well there's that. But it would also not be unusual for her to meet someone in her 20s while going to college or grad school. After point, it's just a matter of figuring out the time line with your partner. Anecdotally: I met my husband in early/mid-20s, married a few years later, PhD (STEM) around 30, pregnant shortly after, currently working full-time with a young child. I'm the breadwinner right now but after our next child that should be different and we plan for me to scale back to part- ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 11:27 AM
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Do you use the NSF definition of STEM fields? Because that's actually pretty broad, and I'd be inclined to agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 01:12 AM
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You can have both. It's challenging but doable, and very common. But I agree with you that women who want children who are biologically their own need to give this some serious thought before their late 20s/early 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 01:07 AM
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That means that you manipulate, you don't give complete agency, you pursue selfish goals and stay in it only as long as it is beneficial.| See, there lies the problem. That's a far cry from what I think of when I say "treat women like human beings." Pretty dark view of humanity, or at least of half of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 12:25 AM
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Because of emphathy, you stop looking at them as magical fairies that can do no wrong and see them as faulty selfish, self involved people, like we all are.| If only this was apparent on the red pill. I think viewing and treating women like (gasp) real human beings is excellent, and TRP would be far less controversial if that was really the ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 08:21 PM
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I'm probably taking this silly argument too seriously, but dude. No. Misogyny would be saying - like some in TRP - that women are assholes BECAUSE they're women. Gender has nothing to do with what Rorschach is saying. And for the record, of course some women can be assholes. But assholes are made, not born. No one is an asshole just because of their gender. Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 08:10 PM
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Wow, you sound awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 05:11 PM
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Women have made incredible progress. One struggle that persists is that domestic tasks and childcare (and obviously pregnancy & birth) are still a primarily female domain. This creates what's been called a "double burden" on working women. Some career paths are particularly unfriendly for women who have or want children, such as being a CEO, because a work/life balance is challenging. But even more importantly, business and politics are traditionally old boys clubs that cater to white men with m…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 05:05 PM
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Become doctors?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 04:48 PM
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This is really awful to read. What you are doing re:hiring is illegal and unethical. With your level of bias, you appear to be a lawsuit waiting to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 04:38 PM
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The irony here is that so many men on TRP identify as formerly "beta," and scoff at other "beta" men. Would they not naturally be more suited to a first mate position?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 11:47 AM
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Although I don't agree with some aspects of your perspective, this is a compelling response. I enjoyed the thoughtfulness of your other posts, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/14 01:11 AM
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But this view is devoid of any context, or seemingly any critical thought. You can't just say "blame it on oppression or whatever" and then give zero weight to our entire social and political history. For centuries, women were not allowed to participate in the ways that you are speaking of. Women have had the right to vote in the U.S. for less than 100 years. Is it not at all telling how far women have come in a very small period of time? I'm not saying women are superior to men. But I am saying…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 11:59 PM
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If there were no men, there would be chaos because many of those women are incapable of doing the jobs that men do (engineers, doctors, businessmen, executives, businessmen, etc.)| I'm sorry, this is one of those responses that makes me feel like I'm living on a different planet. I have to especially disagree with you in terms of medicine, women are starting to dominate that field (which is more competitive than ever). In terms if sheer brainpower, I'm very familiar with medical school and many,…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 10:38 PM
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Hmm. This seems to be overlooking not only the role of women in every field, but the value of female-dominated fields which you may poo-poo at but nonetheless play a vital role in modern society. You know, education, nursing, psychology, all social services, stuff like that. Also, what happens to all the children in your fleshlight scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 06:33 PM
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You are never snarky or sarcastic on the internet? Does this mean a person can't also be serious and respectful in a different discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/14 03:48 PM
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I was a radical feminist for more than a decade.| I'm interested in this. If you're willing, could you quickly share a bit more? I'm curious about how you came to be a radical feminist in the first place, what your core beliefs were, and what changed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 12:38 PM
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I'm sure glad that blue pillers are so level headed as to put society's problems on society and not on, oh say, some mythical cabal of men, a "patriarchy" if you will, causing all the problems.| You do understand that no one is arguing that 'patriarchy' is a group of malevolent old men sitting around a table somewhere and plotting ways to keep women down? That would be similar to saying "democracy" is a small group of actual people debating issues is a room. That may be an example of a democrati…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 11:19 AM
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Which part of my comment violated the "bonus points" clause? The more effective system for working moms part? I was actually approaching that from the sense that women (and mothers specifically) are in the best position to assert their needs and advocate for change, and haven't done the best job of this yet. But I can see how that's a little "fight the patriarchy!" Supporting and advocating for other women, however, is not. Women as a whole can be unkind or shaming to other women. I don't think …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 10:59 AM
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Thanks for clarifying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 10:49 AM
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The phrasing of this question is quite leading. Of course increasing understanding (self- and other-) is more desirable than "placating angry groups of people." But in this scenario, is the "understanding" group supposed to be TRP and the "placating" group the BP? That's a pretty big stretch.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:24 AM
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The initial problem I face in answering this question is that I don't see gender in quite the same binary terms that you do. It's difficult for me to think in terms of "what's the fault of men or women," and none of the examples you gave (like men are too lazy to file for divorce) resonate with me. And for the record, "patriarchy" is not synonymous with "MEN." That said, I think women could overall do a better job supporting and advocating for other women. Slut-shaming has gotta go. We also need…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 02:13 AM
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Parts of this flood of information (and misinformation and even disinformation) may have come from places of good intentions, it's not hard to see why some are apprehensive that constant exposure can be conducive to paranoia, conspiracy theory hysteria.| Horseshoe theory posits that the far left and far right of any ideology are more similar to each other than they are to the middle. I think that one can see this theory at work when looking at the extreme factions of feminism vs extreme factions…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:34 AM
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Racism is difficult to define, but I think Wikipedia does a decent job of conceptualizing it:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism. My subjective definition of racism includes the following: 1) the belief that people of different races are biologically different; 2) that this leads to inherent differences in abilities, skills, intelligence, personality traits, etc. 3) that these differences make a given race superior/inferior to other races AND/OR that these differences make people of a certain …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 05:20 PM
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Interesting idea. I think we 're seeing a version of this in this sub - unless people use identifiers, it's not always apparent who is male and who is female.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 02:37 AM
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The overlap between sexism and racism in TRP is unsettling. I'm not sure why I'm surprised, given the weight placed on (the dubious field of) evolutionary psychology and other "scientific studies" showing that human beings have inherent biological differences that apparently dictate every aspect of our lives. Obviously I'm already not doing a good job in this post of hiding my own biases against this line of thinking. I can debate sexism and actually find it somewhat interesting to discuss gende…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 12:36 AM
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So, dread game can be very effective. I've experienced it myself with a "natural", and I'd argue that for me it's one of the stronger tools in TRP arsenal. That said, it creates anxiety and discomfort in the relationship. Anxiety and discomfort is an enemy of intimacy, and can be miserable in an LTR. I know a lot of people at TRP aren't that interested in LTR, or if they are, have perhaps not experienced one yet in an "adult" sense (e.g., living together, marriage, kids). But in my experience, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 11:37 AM
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By definition, sociopathy is associated with a lack of empathy. A knack for manipulation and exploiting vulnerability is not empathy. In fact, most sociopathic types perceive the world as "either/or" (e.g., victim or victimizer, powerless or powerful) and exclusively view themselves and others through that lens. The nuances of what another person might be feeling are often lost to them, but they can be talented at reading cues and signals. Essentially a true sociopath is an emotional autist, wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 11:11 AM
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Thank you! I'm with you on #1, maybe 2, and have very mixed feelings about the efficacy of the 3 & 4. But I can imagine how they might be effective in certain situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 02:41 AM
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During a recent story that aired on NPR one infertile woman in her early 40s couldn’t understand it. She insisted that she works out regularly, does yoga, even has a personal trainer. She eats well and is healthy. She never knew that her ovaries were becoming less productive in spite of those measures.| I find this incredibly hard to believe. I strongly feel that any woman who doesn't know that her fertility declines with age has been living under a rock. In this case, "living under a rock" woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/14 02:20 AM
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I disagree that RPW has charted new territory by emphasizing what it takes to stay in a relationship. I feel like I've been reading "how to please your man!" articles in women's/girls' magazines basically since I could read. I think what is unique about RPW is it's obvious emphasis on RP theory and what that says about the role of men and women in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/14 04:15 PM
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Interesting! Can I ask you to say a little more about this? What have you found most helpful about TRP that you haven't found in other forums (even PUA, for example)?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 03:51 PM
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It often simplifies a complicated world, giving it's participants a feeling of control over their own lives, often for the first time.| Very good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 03:49 PM
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I struggle to understand why talking about what makes men successful in relationships, and happy overall is so damn controversial...We all have to pretend that that way to be successful with women and be happy overall is to kiss women's asses? Otherwise, you're a troglodyte misogynist? Any honest man admits that shit doesn't work| I think the point is, it's not either/or. I think most BP & RP alike would agree that self-confidence is key, as is striving to be your best self. But from a BP (or wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/14 12:25 AM
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I have a pretty negative, visceral response to the term. I've been in a monogamous relationship for a decade and have not been on the receiving end of this kind of language for some time. But I remember feeling shame when I was younger when a rumor went around that I had had hooked up with "a lot of people" (not really true, but of course "a lot" is subjective. Interesting that I still feel some need to explain...). I can curse like a sailor, but I have a real distaste for slurs in general. In a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 12:46 PM
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You can easily go a year without even meeting a guy you fancy, in my experience.| Yes. This. And ditto that usually unless you are at a specific type of place that caters to the hookup scene, it's in my experience pretty rare to interact with people other than the friends you came in with. People may make eye contact and smile but actual approaches were few and far between in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 09:52 PM
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That seems right, thank you! I have long associated with pretty artsy, adventurous folks living in liberal urban areas and am not surprised that the "numbers" of my friends are a little higher than the average. 99% of my friends also married and had kids later than the average, or not at all. So one could argue that my friends have fallen into the "trap" of focusing on career and education at the expense of marrying young, and have "ridden the cock carousel" or whatever you want to call it throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 09:45 PM
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The more I'm reading this, the less it's lining up with my own experience. How so you know that most men have a visceral negative reaction to a woman with sexual experience? I honestly cannot think of many real-life examples outside if TRP. And truthfully, I can only think of a couple of examples of people I know who were commonly viewed as "sluts" or "easy," and most of these were guys. I will agree, however, that it is often women who engage in more active "slut-shaming" against other women. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 05:50 PM
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Actually, I would dispute that men care and women don't. I think it can be a natural reaction for both genders to feel jealous of past partners and want their SO "all to themselves." I've never noticed any gender difference in this regard. But what I HAVE noticed is that people generally care less about this as they mature. By the 30s, partner count is really not a big topic of conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 05:32 PM
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Does anyone have actual stats regarding the average number of sexual partners people have these days? I feel like TRP is overestimating the number of people who "ride the cock carousel" and what realistic numbers are. I often see numbers that seem absurdly high - like in the 100s+ - thrown around as if an average woman nearing "the wall" would have numbers like this. Not to pass judgment at all against those who may have higher numbers, but I just don't think that is representative. In my experi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 03:34 PM
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Anecdotally, I have found this to be true in my own marriage. My spouse and I have the same "number" (slightly high by RP standards but not "cock carousel" numbers by any means) and are highly committed and well-matched. I'd also note that things like a number mattered a little bit to me when I was younger, out of morbid curiosity and insecurity mostly. But I haven't thought about my partner's (or my own) "number " in years. While our past experiences helped to shape the people we are today, I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 03:24 PM
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Men love women for who they are (fidelity/faith his children are his own), women love men for what they bring to a relationship (provider/protector role.| Can you expand on this a bit? I'm not following why being faithful and bearing a man's children is more about who a woman "is," whereas being a provider or protector is what a man "brings." While I clearly see how these could be different roles, I'm not getting what makes one about being vs doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 09:51 PM
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Can you give an example of the kind of scenario you're thinking of?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 09:20 PM
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I don't believe that either gender is capable of unconditional love, except perhaps in the case of parental love.| I agree with your exception here. While this doesn't apply to all parents by a long shot, I think parental love certainly has the capacity to be unconditional. Neither gender is capable of being loved in the way "they want to be loved".| Interesting. Do you think people in homosexual relationships have a better chance of loving/being loved in the way they would like to be loved? And…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 09:18 PM
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Well, there hasn't been a draft since Vietnam. The draft was extremely unpopular (and overturned) precisely because our young men are valued. Most people dread the notion that their sons, husbands, fathers, brothers, or friends might be killed in a war zone. That said, I know what you are getting at. Men have historically shouldered the burden of war. Women have been tasked (by nature and society) with the birthing and rearing of children, and as such were shielded from battle. But both of these…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 01:49 AM
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I'm not saying always see women as disposable or generally be an asshole but if I walk into a club with the mindset of getting my dick wet then I don't see why I should concern myself with anything else.| Fair enough. But I would argue that TRP is not just sexual strategy. It appears to be sold as a way of life, and certainly seems to be something that colors the way in which people view the world. Also please don't try and tell me looking only to have meaningless sex is a bad life choice. Some …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 01:15 AM
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Thank you. I appreciate your posts as well, and very much agree with your last statement: On the latter point I might argue that it's worse in a longterm/general sense for the objectifier rather than the objectifiee.|
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/14 01:05 AM
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only if they are in line with her projection of what her partners should have, lets say see is a career woman, and you love being a bartender, you can only be a ONS in that position, because it is acceptable for her fuck toy to be a bartender but not her SO.| That sounds an awful lot like human nature to me. Most men don't have different standards for a ONS than for the woman they would pick for a LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 08:34 PM
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I'll look into volunteering somewhere I care about. I do philanthropic work all the time actually. It might be a nice change to work together collaboratively.| Cool, I hope you have a positive experience. In terms of the criminal comment, without giving everything away, I work in a hospital setting and the patients are generally pretty sick. Attraction to my patients is usually not a issue for many reasons. Not sure why you put quotations around criminals, and would disagree that many inmates fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 06:35 PM
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I think traveling is a great idea. And I'm not sure how old you are, but what about taking some graduate-level classes? Or volunteering for a cause that would attract well-educated women/people? If you're interested in travel, something like Doctors without Borders or even the Red Cross, for example. Actually, I think education is really secondary here. Going to places or becoming involved in causes that attract altruistic people might be interesting for you, I think. Habitat for Humanity, food …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 03:32 PM
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I can't argue against your lived experiences, and I won't tell you that you're wrong to feel the way you do. I actually really don't like hearing that you've felt disposable your entire life. No one should have to feel that way, and it gives me some insight into where you're coming from. I think I said this to you in another thread, but all I can really do is encourage you to consider that your perspective on things may not be the universal truth. That, like everyone else, your worldview is a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 03:13 PM
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Again with this shit? So you cant rate people on their looks anymore?| Sure you can. But from my reading, TRP advises men to view women as nothing BUT the number. It's not just a descriptor, it's viewed as a way to help men feel less intimidated by women, less "beta," etc. I'm not saying the goal (feeling less intimidated) is a bad thing, but the means of getting there is an example of objectification. How does imply anything? This is just a strategy for those who want to get laid with a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 02:52 PM
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With nothing holding them accountable for their actions, a lot of them truly are senseless monsters that live day to day off their smart phones, marketing themselves from victim to victim. They are essentially female rapists who do not rape via sex, but through the act of coercion using their sexualities in order to gather resources. They understand the ungodly amount of privilege they truly possess, and instead of being grateful, their hypergamy runs rampant, consuming validation with reckless …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 01:52 PM
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It may be worth considering that there is something about your lifestyle that is bringing you into contact with what you perceive to be less intelligent women. Jumping to the conclusion that 1/2 of the world's population is "truly beneath you intellectually" based solely on your limited life experiences is quite a leap. I have a PhD and masters degree. The majority of my cohort in both graduate programs were women. Should I conclude based on this data set that men are less intelligent or intelle…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 01:43 PM
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I'd say a better example would be if a woman views a man as a "free drink" or "free meal," or "just a paycheck." The idea is that the person is viewed as a thing or tool. If a guy is a romantic interest, in my experience his wishes, desires, and interests are actually quite important to the person who is interested in him.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 01:03 PM
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TRP seems to advocate for objectification; in fact, I'd say that the objectification of women appears to be a central feature of the sub. An example would be advising men to no longer view women as individual people, but as a number (HB9, for example). Or the view that women are interchangeable (spinning plates, AWALT). Obviously the perspective that the only useful quality a woman has is to be a tool for a man's pleasure. And the lack of concern for a woman's feelings or experiences. Or the not…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 12:58 PM
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Pretty much. I find his views to be pretty extreme and difficult to reconcile with my experience in the world. I've re-read the section several times with as open a mind as I can muster, and I just don't get anything from this except a guy who is trying to avoid taking any responsibility for his actions. His observations of women and extremely broad and complex forces such as "government " and "culture" seem hollow and false. I understand that his work resonates with you and that's fine, but I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 08:14 PM
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Oh, poor Roosh. Seriously, this guy's perspective is so out there to me it's hard to know where to begin. But I guess as it relates to this topic, he's saying TRP has no power over anyone's gender roles, but is merely responding to the all-powerful feminist agenda? Alrighty then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 05:18 PM
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I think there are two major factors, lifestyle and personality. In terms of lifestyle, musicians and actors (not rich or famous ones) tend to get a lot of action, in part because they are putting themselves out there and interacting with people regularly, often at night and when alcohol is involved. By that logic, I'd assume djs, bartenders, etc also probably do pretty well. But a regular guy who is social and likes meeting new people is obviously going to have more opportunities than a guy who …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 05:05 PM
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No. At my core I'm a "blue," bleeding-heart, politically-correct feminist. But I'm actually much more moderate now than I was when I was younger and am genuinely interested in other perspectives. Although my belief system is pretty set, there have been points made during debates in this sub that have broadened the way I think. Also, I'm a mom of a young son. As much as I am offended by some of the posts I see, I'm motivated to understand what is making some men feel so angry and cheated. I would…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 08:43 PM
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Not necessarily, but I'll admit I'd probably be curious because it's outside the current norm. "I'm a virgin because I've always been pretty shy/awkward, but I'm working on it" is valid IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:47 AM
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Well, I'm a few years "post-wall" and married so I'm probably not your target audience. But, if I was in my 20s again and single, I'd be fine with it as long as the reasons weren't off-putting (eg, "I'm a virgin because women are whores," "I'm a virgin because I'm saving myself for Bristol Palin," etc.). ETA: there are lots of perfectly respectable reasons someone could be a virgin at 25.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:35 AM
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 12:15 AM
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I think in general TBP mentality is shared by flexible thinkers who are more inclined to see the world in shades of gray than in black in white, and are more comfortable viewing people as existing on a continuum as opposed to trying to categorize others. Not saying that this is better or worse, but I also believe TBP is generally compromised of people who have had an easier time socially. "People people," on the whole. Meaning they also are likely to have an easier time trusting others and are l…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 12:08 AM
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In high school, I hung out in the artsy, pot-smoking, drama circles, and almost all of the kids I was friends with were having regular sex. I have no idea what the jocks were doing, but I suspect they weren't having nearly as much fun. I went to a smallish liberal arts college, so no roided out frat boys to speak of. I never once saw a physical fight. Feminism was an accepted norm and most of the guys were pretty nice and respectful. Almost everyone was getting laid. I mean, what in the hell els…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 02:50 AM
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I think this speaks more to PUA shite than TRP. Be confident, tease, physical touch, etc. The video doesn't really show too much of the "beta provider" but he seems super awkward and stiff. No one is looking for that in the club. Other guy, in comparison, is "cool fun guy."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 09:46 PM
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K, I actually buy that logic. I still think that if you pit the average 35 year old woman against the average 35 year old man and send them out to a bar, the woman will have more "success" in terms of the SMP.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 02:17 AM
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I'm motivated by a lot of things. I'm a people person - helping others and not letting them down are big ones. Having a career that I love and going as far as I could in terms of my education is a big one. But I'm also motivated to really enjoy life, and try to always find a balance between work and everything else. In terms of my relationships, I'm very oriented towards making my partner (and friends, for that matter) happy and being there for them. Nothing worse for me than disappointing someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 02:04 AM
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Agreed. From my perspective, men and women both peak in terms of their ability to get laid in their 20s. There's a reason the bar and club scenes are filled with 20-somethings of both genders. Sorry, but a 35- or 40-something guy is just as out-of-place as a same-aged woman in that world. Although I do believe a 35+ man may have more success than a same-aged female in online dating, I think IRL the woman is STILL more likely to meet many willing partners on an average night out. And I do not thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 09:34 PM
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I actually think this question gets to the heart of the difference between the "pills." We'd have to really poll, but I'd suspect TRP would skew heavily in the "realist" direction, and BP would skew "idealist." For me it supports the social psych concept of confirmation bias - we see what we expect to see, and focus on the information that supports our viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 03:11 AM
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Interesting thoughts about the cultural context.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 03:04 AM
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Didn't know that! Oh man, I love him even more now. RIP, Kurt!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/14 03:03 AM
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Someone who loves women but thinks theyre inferior or different or whatever is not a misogynist.| I think there is an enormous difference between thinking someone is different vs thinking someone is inferior. The latter is far closer to misogyny, from my perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 06:45 PM
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When a person views girls, women, or things associated with being feminine as worthy of contempt. A person can like to fuck women and still be a misogynist. There are a number of posters on TRP who fall into this category, although I don't think that viewing men and women as different is inherently misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 03:40 PM
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Yes, and for me talent does add greatly to my attraction to a person. But I was saying that Kurt Cobain was a celebrity version of my "type" IRL, I was not attracted to him because he was a celebrity or millionaire. In fact the celebrity and money works against his appeal (a view he also seemed to share, sadly). I would have swooned over his garage band, and in fact DID swoon over plenty of talented guys with no money whatsoever. In short, I have never been attracted to money or polish, but one …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 12:13 PM
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I think that attraction is way more subjective, and less formulaic, than TRP suggests. With the exception of the extremely, ridiculously hot people and the supremely unfortunate-looking, I think it's largely a matter of taste. I am but one woman, and I know from TRP perspective one might argue that I don't actually know what I like. So you may not believe me when I say I don't - and have never - found men (such as Channing Tatum) who look like they put hours and hours in at the gym attractive. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/14 02:54 AM
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Hot. Seriously, in my experience, THIS is the guy that gets laid. The nice, confident guy who actually likes other people, including girls. Not the dudes who are basically saying that girls have cooties.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 02:53 AM
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Interesting! I feel like it's the exact opposite. TRP is all about the "bitter truth." A casual read of the top posts is an exercise in fear and negativity. No woman can be trusted. She's lying to you. She doesn't love you. She doesn't care about you. She's riding the cock carosol and planning a sperm jack. Beware, beware, beware, because women are dangerous. My own view of humanity is much more benign. I think people do the best they can with what they've got. I think people are generally good …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 02:38 AM
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I'm feeling the same way about some of the red pill responses. We are the world...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/14 12:16 AM
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I actually totally am. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 09:46 PM
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A serious reply to your silly question: I love men. The three people I love most in the world are men. I have lots of male friends. Hell, even my dog's a dude. I care deeply about men's issues. What I don't love is small-minded people who dehumanize others and/or try to make them fit into them into tiny boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 09:38 PM
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Society! Just kidding. Assuming the woman is a mentally competent adult, she is clearly at fault. Are you really expecting a different response?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 09:28 PM
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Declarations like this drive me nuts, and I see it on TRP all the time. So much of the information that you all feed to each other is Just. Not. True. It's just not based in objective reality, which is why you guys are consistently asked to cite your sources. But for the most extreme of you, it doesn't even seem to matter, because academia (and therefore, virtually all peer-reviewed research) and the media and basically all sources of knowledge are the product of a feminist conspiracy, right? Bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 05:50 PM
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He says certain things exist that do exist, IMO. For example, it's the man's job to further open his women so that expression of love can be more pervasive, and above materials. However it's easy as man of great ability to try to quell his woman's desires with gifts, rather than expanding her capacity to love.| Not trying to be obtuse, I really don't know what you mean. He says things exist that do or don't exist? And I don't follow the 'open his woman, pervasive expression of love' stuff. Or th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 01:29 AM
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That sucks. Why lie on an anonymous survey? What's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:41 PM
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Not red pill. Only child. Never had problems with the opposite sex (or same sex).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:38 PM
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Huh? Can you please rephrase, I'm not really following.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:34 PM
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This dude fucking loves him some Germany. But not Hitler because he's "too crazy." That's all I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:24 PM
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I ended up listening to the whole thing on my way home, and I totally agree. Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:22 PM
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No, no, no - FEMINISTS invented off-shoring. Because feminists have been in control of the government for the last 50 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 11:17 PM
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Actually, OK, now watched 10 minutes. I have no idea what this dude is talking about. How did the government take away men's careers, role as a husband, and role as a father? I'll listen to more if his argument later - it ought to be good. As for the "men made everything cool" assertion, sigh. By all means, men do fucking rock! Seriously, male pride. But don't discount the women who raised and married and supported these men, and don't overlook the social and legal forces that until recently pre…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 04:39 PM
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I listened to the 1st few minutes. Seems like he's spouting off the usual RP wisdom. Doesn't jive with my perspective but I'm always interested to hear alternative worldviews.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 04:27 PM
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Also, I think cuckoldry and rape are apples and oranges. Both bad things, to be sure, but different and should continue to be seen as different under the law. For example, a woman who cuckolds men is likely to have a small number of victims. Likely only one, maybe two, in her lifetime. A man who rapes women is likely to have many more victims, and may engage in other violent or antisocial behavior as well. Neither the woman nor man in this scenario is anyone I'd like to have over for dinner, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 04:19 PM
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I do think the situation you are describing is criminal, and I think a man with a halfway decent lawyer would be able to sue for damages without much of a problem. The difficulty I have with your argument is that you assume that 100% of the time, this scenario occurs because the woman is deliberately and nefariously defrauding the man. I'm familiar with your posts, and I think that is consistent with your view of women. I would counter that in many, if not most, of these cases the woman may not …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 04:09 PM
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I mentioned this above, but I think that this issue of "no one caring about powerless men" stems from the same social forces that feminism fights against. Men are socialized to believe that they "should" be strong and powerful, and should not ask for help. TRP strongly advocates for this old, patriarchal belief system. But as a result, when men need help they often do not seek it. Hence the higher rates if completed suicides. That said, there are many, many social services and supports for disen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 03:39 PM
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I'll bite. I think this article presents an interesting and thought-provoking argument. The article does not, however, identify a perceived source of differential privilege. I actually think, perhaps unintentionally, this article sets up an argument against patriarchy quite well. Men are socialized not to ask for help, and they face considerable social stigma when they seek support and care. That said, in the United States there are tremendous resources available to men in need. I say this as a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/14 03:23 PM
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Wrong. Sex drive is independent of emotion. Men are driven to have sex regardless of whether emotions are involved.| Actually, no. One of the primary functions of the limbic system - the "emotion center" of the brain - is to control sex drive. An impulse can be instinctual, physiological, and emotional at the same time. Take the fear response, for example, which happens to be mediated by many the same limbic pathways as sex drive. When human beings are exposed to danger, we have an automatic fig…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 04:44 PM
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Sure. People cheat for all kinds of reasons. One reason a woman might cheat with a man more beta than her partner is if she's feeling unappreciated, unadored, missing romance, etc. A typical "beta" would deliver in those areas, whereas a TRP-styled alpha would be unlikely to hold the door open, much less write love letters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/14 11:47 AM
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That IQ score is at the 99.9999999th percentile, by the way, and is basically a "perfect" IQ. If this is true, you are quite, quite rare indeed. My own IQ score is 136. This still the 99th percentile, to give some perspective on the percentage of the population that score above 130.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 06:36 PM
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Given his apparent narcissism, I believe that he would see rape or paying a prostitute as beneath him. Ultimately I don't think he wanted sex, but adoration and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 02:41 AM
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Although I think there is truth to the adage, "you can have everything you want, just not all at once," I struggle to understand how this applies to finding a partner. I always knew that I wanted a marriage, kids, and a fulfilling career. I met my husband in my mid-20s, just as I was starting graduate school. Despite working and going to school full-time, neither of us perceived this as an obstacle as we were both working hard towards our goals. There was more than enough time to develop our rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 04:14 PM
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Yes. My cousin was kicked out of an extremely prestigious university in his senior year due to a sexual assault charge. I have no idea what really happened. I am typically pro-victim unless proven otherwise, and in this case I do not feel like it was necessarily an injustice (again, I don't know the details). But I can't help but feel like there must have been some kind of awful miscommunication. For me, it highlights how careful one needs to be when alcohol is involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/14 04:32 PM
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It's actually not that hard to find the statistic, and making a false rape claim is certainly a crime. Men have successfully sued for damages following false rape claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/14 04:07 PM
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No, but I wouldn't discount it so quickly. Being a good mother is very challenging and requires significant physical stamina, patience, creativity, multitasking abilities, etc. The hours are long and you are "on call" 24/7. But motherhood can be incredibly rewarding. I think the "worlds hardest jobs" are those with many demands and few rewards. Obviously, any kind of slave or sweatshop labor would probably take the cake. FWIW, I am a mom with a full-time career in a field and setting that most w…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/14 04:38 PM
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Yup, I have to admit that I basically agree with this breakdown, and the idea that some areas can compensate for others (spoken as a primarily BP woman).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/14 03:01 AM
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So, I see what you're getting at, but I'm 95% TBP and don't think the quasi-abusive behavior seems like something most TRPers would advocate. It's certainly not "alpha" behavior. If anything, this kind of jealousy and insecurity strikes me as "beta" from a TRP standpoint. From what I've read, most TRPers would advise someone to say "next" and cut off contact if they suspected their girlfriend was cheating. Reading this, I didn't automatically think "this asshole guy is so TRP!" And I actually th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 08:56 PM
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This has many of the hallmarks of an abusive relationship, before it has escalated to outright physical, sexual, or emotional abuse. Jealousy, mistrust, the need to control, the isolation from friends/family - big red flags. Actually, it's close enough to abuse that I would be concerned for her safety if/when she tries to end the relationship, or when she starts dating a new guy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 08:45 PM
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Sigh. Women experience trauma, too. And it's complicated, but one reason that men have a higher suicide rate is that women of all classes are more likely to seek help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 05:42 PM
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No, this is not true. Domestic violence shelters, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/14 04:18 PM
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It's extremely arbitrary. All humans share common - African - ancestry. The concept of "racial purity" (or of race, in general) has essentially been debunked by science.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 11:20 PM
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This should be in the "why don't people like TRP?" thread. Seriously, I know not all TRPers are like this (NATRPLT), but if a person is willing to assume that all people of one gender are a certain way, despite variation in upbringing, culture, life experiences, gene expression, hormone levels, and so forth, why wouldn't this kind of logic apply to how one thinks about race?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 10:59 AM
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Wow. That's pretty unreal stuff to see written in 2014. Thanks, internet. :/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/14 01:25 AM
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Yes, like some others, married the guy who was "not my type." Before my husband, I tended to date tall, slim, conventionally good-looking, artsy guys who often were often (but not always) emotionally sensitive and a bit unstable. My husband is shorter, stockier, and folically-challenged (ha). What my husband has in spades (and TRP would probably appreciate this) is charisma and a deep sense of confidence. He's also funny as hell, smart, and one of the most likable people ever - his social skills…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/14 12:37 PM
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People told me before having children that your capacity to love just grows, and while that sounds cheesy, I think it's true. A lot of people share your concerns, or worry that they wouldn't love a 2nd child as much as their first. But I think this is very rarely an issue - in reality, our hearts (so to speak) are built to love more than one person in more than one way.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 04:12 PM
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First of all, congrats on your new baby! I actually agree with your take on the happiness article, which I think was also hinted at on NPR. I think it would be interesting to do a follow- up study where sense of meaning/purpose was also measured. I would hypothesize that parents may be less "happy " as assessed by the study's measure, but would report a deeper sense of meaning than non-parents. Having kids (or being a good parent, rather) requires sacrifice, many times at the expense of ones own…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 04:00 PM
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It strikes me as hypocritical to complain of others of using shaming language when you just wrote something like "bitches love being treated like bitches. Don't like it? Stop being a slut."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 12:27 PM
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I get the difficulty of balancing work & family in terms of when to have children, but not in terms of finding a partner. If you pursue a PhD and career in physics, you will be surrounded by people who share your interests. Not at all uncommon to meet one's partner while in grad school.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 01:05 AM
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Well said!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/14 12:56 AM
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I think the argument that men "created" the world we live in is a fallacy. It ignores the enormous contributions of women in virtually every professional field over the last 50+ years, and completely overlooks the vital role of women in raising and educating men (which of course long preceded the entry of women into other areas of the workforce). Even if you don't agree with feminism or consider yourself to be a feminist, the ideals of feminism became a movement because multitudes of women felt …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/14 01:09 AM
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I'm a married female with a young child, fairly "feminine" in that I tend to be a people pleaser, and I enjoy children, cooking, makeup, all that jazz. And my husband is a pretty "alpha" dude - very confident, outgoing, decisive, likes building things, etc. But on the other side of the coin, I'm a PhD and the primary earner in our family, with a lot of professional ambition. I'm athletic and tend to have a good amount of self-discipline and drive. I generally work very well with others but am de…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/14 01:23 AM
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I actually don't see where she said this was a political issue. She was arguing that the question of who will watch the children is a "family issue" as opposed to being only the concern of women. But for the record, childcare is extremely expensive, and many people don't live near family or have family who are willing to provide care for young children. So it's not quite as easy as "why not just get some family member to watch them?" But again, I don't think the cost of childcare was her point. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 06:04 PM
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Also, I wholeheartedly agree with the premise that our expectations color not only what we see, but also how others respond to us. It's becomes a feedback loop. A basic example: a person who expects other people to be nice is more likely to make eye contact and smile at others, and in turn people are likely to return their smile. As a result, this persons assumption that the world is a generally friendly place filled with mostly nice people is confirmed. In contrast, a person who views other peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 04:40 PM
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I would only add that the concept of confirmation bias plays a role here. We pay attention to the things that seem to support our viewpoint, and ignore the things that don't. This is a human thing, neither RP or BP. But it's important to remember that we all have biases in the way we perceive the world - while the "truth" is out there, it's hard for any one of us to really see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 04:28 PM
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Huh. I wonder if that is more of a "guy" thing. I've always been most attracted to people who were within a few years of my age. College kids of both genders look really, really young to me now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 12:25 AM
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My feeling is, you can't complain if you are part of the problem. TRP aspires to help guys get girls who otherwise would NOT be sleeping with them. Thus, when successful, these guys are inflating the numbers of women who may typically be more discerning.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 08:54 PM
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I can't tell if this article is trying to be funny or not. If not, I think the proposed "advice" is pretty fucking ridiculous, and not really possible to employ over time with the same person. That said, I will admit that real "dread," not manufactured, can be effective. But it also drives people nuts, in a bad way. Hard to be in a stable, lasting relationship if high (or even moderate) levels of dread are in play.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 05:18 PM
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I think wanting someone with less sexual experience is fine, if that's someone's preference. Some people care, some really don't unless the number is extreme. What I find curious is the number inflation that I see happening from TRP. The assumption that any woman's number should automatically be multiplied by 3? Reading something like that makes me feel as though I am living on a different planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 05:00 PM
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I think some of the benefits are largely outside of the relationship itself. There are tangible societal benefits (taxes) but also less tangible, like being perceived as stable, reliable, interpersonally competent, etc. by others. There are often family benefits, as well (e.g., someone in a girlfriend or boyfriend role is unlikely to be included in major family decisions, whereas a wife or husband is more likely to have a voice). Other than that? There are distinct benefits to a formal commitmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/14 04:49 PM
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