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So beautifully written.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:33 PM
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BASED
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 02:25 PM
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I know my mom was scared of the pain she might feel. And yeah they it’s worth it because they had a kid with a man they were attracted to, they might be lying though. They might just say that because they’re so obsessed with pandering to chad that they’re willing to go through torture to be with him. Like again, all I’m saying is: if I was willing to go through so much pain, I’d use that bravery to kill myself instead, and I think it’s selfish to bring more people into the world.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 01:07 PM
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That’s very brave of you to not be scared of doing something you can’t do anyway. Such hubris.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:56 PM
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I have been an incel all my life, the mere suggestion that im blue pilled I find laughable. If anything you sound like a red piller, with the paradoxical dehumanizing way of seeing women and at the same time desiring (I would imagine) being loved by them.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:48 PM
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Are you really telling me you wouldn’t be scared to face something so painful for such a dumb and selfish intention? Like I’m not saying it’s smart or anything, and as I said, I look down on people who have kids unequivocally, but the pain levels they’re willing to go through to satisfy their ideals of family is insane. Again if I had that amount of courage I wouldn’t waste it in making the world worse by bringing someone else into the world just to suffer, I’d just kill myself.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:46 PM
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That’s a bit much isn’t it? Like just imagine being willing to go through such absurd amounts of pain to sustain a mutuos of motherhood and happiness. Like I wish I was as determined about suicide as they are. At least that’s admirable. They’re not just walking incubators, like come on.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 12:18 PM
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Yup. The only reason I’m still alive is because I’m too much of a coward to end my life.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 11:23 AM
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That’s a very good observation, I had never thought about that.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 11:21 AM
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I wouldn’t want it because my goal is not to live a happy life while being a black piller but to die as soon as I can muster the courage. It might be argued that I only feel this way due to sexual frustration, and that without it I could visualize forms of happiness I can’t at this moment, however I am who I am, a lonely, sexually frustrates and bitter man, and my only hope is to find enough courage to one day commit suicide, in the meantime I’m just a cowardly loser.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 11:03 AM
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A pregnant women can be either an attractive woman or not, but I don’t find pregnant people attractive due to them being pregnant. Normally I just feel a bit of pity because of how difficult being pregnant is and the brutal amount of physical pain they’ll have to go through. I also kind of look down on them for bringing another person to this cruel and awful world.
/r/AllPillDebate14/11/23 10:58 AM
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undoudetbly. The idea of a Chad fits the Idea of a patriarch to a tee.
/r/AllPillDebate13/11/23 06:11 PM
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Wisdom
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:45 PM
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I think that’s a super theory, because defining transactional as that which can apply to even feelings of gratification or social improvement makes it so that everything is transactional, but if everything is transactional then nothing is, since there’s no counter idea to delineate the semantic limits of transaction.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:28 PM
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Totally!!! Like once you realize the black pill is true, the illusion of love shatters. I mean im not optimistic, like what I’ve realized is that she doesn’t have free time to date, and even though I don’t make little money for my country’s standards, dating is so expensive and requires so much pandering that I’m not even sure I want that anymore.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:24 PM
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I don’t think so, there are many instances of people helping others for no ulterior motive. I also don’t think internal gratification classes as a transactional factor.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:21 PM
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No dating success. And like it’s strange, like for example these last few days. A barista at Starbucks asked for my number, but then she wouldn’t reply back or anything. However whenever tu go she treats me to coffee? Like it’s mind boggling for me, but like at least the free coffee is nice. I think I might just be a mental cel though, I’m very misanthropic and awkward so idk. Also thank you!!, hopefully I can get it published.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:14 PM
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You know, when you find a good work of art, you feel as though the artist is finding words to express what you feel better than you could have yourself, so it is as if in art you found your true self outside your self. However, that is only possible due to you silencing the voice of the author, and ignoring the historical condition that gave rise to the work of art. Essentially making it so that you know your idea of your “self” is based on silencing others and ignoring history. Which leaves you…
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 01:55 PM
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I want to get a masters degree, but I’m currently deciding between getting one on teaching English as a second language or literary theory. I also wish I could get my novel published. Being an inkwell is a massive pet of who I am, but my ambition in life is to contribute to society through education of middle and lower income kids.
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 01:47 PM
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Agree wholeheartedly
/r/AllPillDebate12/11/23 02:14 AM
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We’re not that easy to get along with for starters. It’s the result of years of frustrating and rejection.
/r/AllPillDebate10/11/23 02:54 AM
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yup
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:08 PM
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indemonstrable.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 03:16 AM
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the guy who couldn't be bothered reading 4 lines on the post of OP telling me I have a simple polarity. Jesus wept.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:51 AM
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The op also qualified what he had said by pointing out exceptional skill and talent. So you’re either proposing that napoleon had neither and still succeeded, or what’s more likely, you didn’t read what he said pst the title. Besides even if napoleon is this trump card of what a great person you can be, napoleon was banished and died lonely and forgotten prisoner of the Ancien Régime. So clearly you’re not even that much of a fan of napoleon, you just go by a cartoonish idea you hold as proof of…
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:41 AM
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Then why are you telling people to be someone they’re not?
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:26 AM
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Well he was napoleon and I’m not napoleon so
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:25 AM
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I get it that new people learn the black pill everyday, but I just can’t wait for when everyone has interiorized that being a good person and having a good personality have nothing to do with dating and we can move on to more interesting discussions.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 02:22 AM
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And my god the internet, that bitchy and gay tool to send messages through the air instead of fucking using smoke signals like a man. Embarrassing really .
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:26 AM
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Oh man, I’d love to reas your comment but you know reading is just this Phoenician fad for bitches who only abstract their docking side sounds. So touch break.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/23 12:25 AM
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so we're supposed to take responsability for being brought into a life of suffering. dumbest and cruelest thing i've heard. Besides, why use this logic only on this aspect of life? do you think the same about not using pants since thats how life is and if we were supposed to use pants we would be born with them? so we're supposed to accept organic reality as the sole determiner of social life in nothing except this point. dumbest thing i've heard. Like bleh.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:31 PM
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because the other guy is hotter.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 10:01 PM
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I mean they want that yeah, they can’t get that sure. That doesn’t mean they’d feel better being with us. They just curse destiny for not being able to be with someone they can love, it doesn’t mean that they can love us. And like sure they’re selfish with their lives and their kids, but like people who have kids are already quite selfish anyway, so I doubt they’ll reach a moral conclusion that leads them to a path of self sacrifice in which they’d be with someone that repulses them for the sake…
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:54 PM
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Are you a red piller by any chance? Like… do you think they’d feel less stressed and happy by dating someone they feel disgusted by? Like women don’t want us, trying to shame them and forced them won’t change that. Take the black pill
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:49 PM
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Why is it always about masculinity with you guys. You throw masculinity as an insult all the time. Such a dumb insult by the way, since you’d be implying that a real man is always good, which is blatantly deluded.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:46 PM
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Many people gather those kids because the woman settles for them and they’re desperate enough to play baby daddy. Besides women can make their own money anyway, they don’t need a baby daddy.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:45 PM
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Let alone the fact that women enjoy sex, and most likely enjoy it more when the dude they’re doing it with is hot.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:42 PM
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You can’t decide for them, they can do what they want and as long as they continue doing what they do, it must be assumed that that’s what they want. If they are just used for sex and can’t get a relationship, and keep doing that, that means that they’re lying when they say they want a relationship and effected they just want sex.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 08:41 PM
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I legit don’t. Like what does it even mean that your friends have gone on date before ? Like surely they’ve had outings in which they were alone with their potential partners.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 07:20 PM
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They do so they evidently can
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 07:16 PM
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i mena of course it's real. The mere fact that you can designate it using language indicates that is real since that which is not real is unfathomable.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:57 PM
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Women an act whiever way they want as long as they can back it up with getting with the men they want.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:55 PM
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how old are you? jesus christ. If they have something to contribute to the discussion, why should they be prevented from being here?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 06:43 PM
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how is taking your own life the same as having an abortion. You are kept from the means from doing it medically, and all methods are heavily regulated, you are the one feeling the physical pain, and you are the one who was brought into this world without any say on it whatsoever. Having an abortion is painless for the fetus, it doesn't even have a conscince nor a sense of self. besides is such a surprisingly weird position to take, are you anti abortion then?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 02:42 PM
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Oh my GOd. I can't understand you people. I legitimately can't.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 02:37 PM
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It's so hirlariously ironic that blue pillers spew out the same type of suggestions Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapira are alwasy babling on about.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 02:32 PM
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Would you at least support the extermination of us incels?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 02:06 PM
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And sorry for not addressing the happiness point, I wouldn’t but that’s not the case so that’s irrelevant. I could feel content and get cancer the next day, I could feel miserable and win the lotto. My personal output should have no baring on justifying the creation of another person.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:15 PM
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It would benefit society at large. We’re the most violent gender, we certainly are despicable enough as incels to be opposed at every turn, why not go all the way and push for things that prevent us from even existing anyway. It’s so strangely moralistic by someone who only sees us as a waste of air anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:03 PM
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I agree, but I don’t think biological overdrive is the only instance in which a suffering woman brings a kid into the world. It is often believed here in the third world that you bringing a kid into your life will make up for the misery you’d have to endure. And like I get the love between a mother and a child, and I get it’s joyful, but it’s not the only aspect of life and I feel that the stricter control on natalism can only further help social inequality and political pressure. I mean I’m an …
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 01:01 PM
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Genuine question. How are mothers not selfish? Like isn’t a HUGE talking point in feminism that one of the way in which patriarchal figures excert violence is through forcing women into playing roles they’re not willing to play forcefully? How is it different from mothers in this instance? How are they not having their kids performed a role unwillingly due to some surreal ideal completely disconnected from reality?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:43 PM
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Then why not support these types of posts? Is it just because you can’t agree with a black piller at all. You could have just said, I agree and wish there were more abortions of finale babies too. But you didn’t. It’s so confusing, is It just because you hate us and never want to agree with anything we say?
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:20 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree, bringing kids into this horrendous world is so selfish and stupid. There should be very strict regulations on who gets to have a baby and in what conditions.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:11 PM
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She shouldn’t have had kids. Period. She had an unrealistic ideal of how life was, which was due to her simply wanting cute kids to look at. And for that she was willing to risk her kids living a miserable life, because she thought her love would be enough of a guarantee for happiness. It’s inexcusably selfish. Besides aren’t you against black pillers like us anyway, it is in your best interests that mothers are forced to abort most babies if their male anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:10 PM
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I wonder why we might forget love exists… And still, they’re bringing people into this world who are guaranteed to toil and suffer for all of their lives, with a very low chance they’ll even enjoy life ever at any point, and to have years of abuse piled on their shoulders. I don’t see how people who bring kids into the world can be excused here.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:08 PM
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Why is there no responsibility faced by bringing kids into the world then? Why must WE always be the single group in society that should take more responsibility, be wiser, be more rational. People is brought into this world to suffer and that is entitled and cruel.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:06 PM
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This is a great idea.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 12:00 PM
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Mods, please pin this post.
/r/AllPillDebate07/11/23 11:56 AM
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And like what pains is that I’m a leftist, I’ve worked for my community for years and I’m part of the left party in my country, but idk, the left is decidedly useless, and I can’t understand it. They’re just interested in finding the most minute difference to argue about and to exclude as many people as possible. They’re more concerned with purity than Nazis were.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 11:55 PM
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I am a leftist from the third world and still had leftists telling me that I was a traitor to the left and that I was a bourgeoise passing for a leftist. Leftist are insanely vile towards the common person
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 10:09 PM
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Yeah, the people who simp for conservatives are delusional, only left wingers are just too hostile towards the common people unfortunately
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 08:25 PM
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I think it’s possible, I’ve had female friends before. I think untimely y my loneliness makes me so bitter and cynical that I’m no fun to be around. But I don’t necessarily think all relationships with women lead to developing feelings for them.
/r/AllPillDebate06/11/23 11:22 AM
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What difference does it make though. We’re already outcasts. What are they gonna do? Monitor our pathetic lives like they already do? Not talk to use like they already do? Ban our websites like they already do?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 11:04 PM
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I’ve stopped wasting a lot of time trying to meet people. Also life now makes a lot more sense.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:50 PM
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What percentage of us even do this anyway? Most murder d are committed by normies anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 10:49 PM
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I think there are end goals though, I think the black pill demonstrates that not every man is a patriarch by virtue of being a man, and that those of use who are outcasts don’t have the motivation to participate of society as most do, and maybe we could organize to push for sanctioned $uicide, but that’s a pipe dream of mine. I think it’s also useful to visualize how alienating and empty life is for the average man.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 07:52 PM
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I sympathize with you. I just think that parents are normal people who don’t know what it’s like for us.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 06:26 PM
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Im sorry, it sounds like a very tough situation to be in.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:51 PM
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You are so disingenuous. Women are subject to the same racial and social biases men are. These women just highlight a common patriarchal idea that men are not to be respected if they are the main sources of parenthood. So I guess it’s good if women are the one enforcing patriarchal talking points because women can’t be bad, and are just pure angels. Besides where is everyone saying “serious BP science”, there’s a sub for black pill science, which is not this. This is for losers like me venting a…
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:43 PM
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Do I should take women seriously, and that means not taking seriously what they say on tik tok? Like such a dumb point to defend. Women aren’t children, they’re the ones pushing these narratives. Women are no less superficial and malicious than men, you are just caught in this pre modern idea of women as madonnas. Your view of women is quite consistent with that of a conservative .
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:36 PM
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That was years ago, so not a current issue, besides I was a teenager, I didn’t know what to do with those feelings and I would only feel sad and angry at people being racists against me and my family. And for girls, I revived racist comments and abuse from girls too, so even if your explanation of their actions is right, they still were the ones saying racist remarks and comments, so I have no sympathy for women in general.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:32 PM
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I think it’s just that we men are more willing to lie and say that we’d date single moms just to get sex and then bounce. Women just aren’t willing to lie as openly about it.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:30 PM
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You’re right, we shouldn’t take seriously the opinion of women.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:29 PM
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That sounds quite reasonable, right?
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:19 PM
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Im an incel, please don’t lump me with him.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:18 PM
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This guy, I’m convinced, is a blue piller or an incel tears users in disguised looking to get this sub banned.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:17 PM
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It wasn’t friends, basically being black you kind of get death threats and snide comments all the time. Many girls in my high school would say I always looked dirty and mock my father for looking like a monkey, some idiots told me that they should just push me off the ledge and get rid of the “shit” that was at school. Like women like to pass as these non racist angels, they aren’t .
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:16 PM
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It is logical yeah, but I don’t think people’s intentions ply any part. It’s simply a matter of the most desired men having too many options and not seeing any benefit in committing since why would they? They have the validation and affection of more people without having to do any of the emotional support. It’s quite logical, women appealing to them or not in that way you mention would have no barring on that.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:13 PM
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I had death threats in high school cuz of being black and ugly. Makes it impossible for me to have any form of sympathy towards anyone.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:07 PM
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Are you a boomer or something? How can you be so trustful of what a rando tells you on the internet.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 05:04 PM
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You’re too paranoid
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:11 PM
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Chad hasn’t done such a thing, what a gargantuan cope. Do you truly believe that chad has put his own animalistic needs behind? What a brain dead cope. Besides, is that really your end goal you red pill idiot? To just share a woman into giving you pity sex? Just get a fucking escort and stop bitching. Ducking delusional.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 04:03 PM
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What a stupid counter
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:48 PM
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You’re allaying with the enemy here, not all men were sent to war. The men who were not sent to war were also the ones who would take all the women under their power also. Women aren’t the enemy here, this is such a red pill cope. Women can’t help being attracted to the top 20%, same as you can’t help being attracted to them. You’re being hypocritical here.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:44 PM
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You’re insulting his family, you were not even there, just making a lot of assumptions and condemning them forever.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:34 PM
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But they have been victims, you have to be deranged to overlook the literal lack of rights women had for most of history.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 03:33 PM
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Yeah, it’s a very common things humans do.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:48 PM
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They were just jokes, they probably feel bad about it themselves, but feel bad about not being able to help.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 02:21 PM
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You are right to be fair. I stand corrected
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:50 PM
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I made it explicit. Assuming attraction is a choice by extension assumes that attraction is a choice, which is a very common point of attack conservatives make. And untimely is a choice you can make for yourself if you don’t like women hat much, others like women a lot so it would be kind of impossible not to have them in mind somewhat constantly.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:39 PM
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Firstly, what a banger of a post, thank you! 1) I've seen this happen and to be honest I don't know how to explain it. there even is one guy at work who is very charismatic but is rather average looking, yet he's slept with half the office. You ask the women he's been what they find so attractive and they'll say he's smart and funny and he's neither. He's thick as oatmeal and his jokes are horrendous. Personally I define myself as post blackball, not that anybody cares anyway; But I do believe t…
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:58 PM
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Then you know the answer to your initial question, you were just asking a lodes question in bad faith. Got it
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:43 PM
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I think you’re being too optimistic there, for the most part people are more willing to enact violence’s on their brothers and sisters instead of the powerful because they rather persecute those who are like them but are slightly more fragile than confront the powerful. Take the hate against welfare dependent people. They’re seen as lazy people who take resources away from those who really need them; when in reality the problem is that the welfare network is not enough to cover the growing inequ…
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:42 PM
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It’s the same with women, many shows and movies are terrible, and the only thing men complain about is casting decisions. It is a matter of Hollywood only knowing how to sell sex, but it also speaks on how inert our current art landscape is. You only get to write fr Hollywood if you’re a normie, and as a normie you have normal opinions and normal worldviews which make for boring art. That’s why there’s trillions upon trillions of shows in which people moral character allows them to kill ethnic p…
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:35 PM
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This is implicitly transphobic you know? Since you’re implying that attraction is a matter of choice.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:31 PM
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I don’t think there’s any decay, that sub is still quite big and fairly active. They just banned us and that’s it. But they have always defended stupid positions, denied evidence when presented with it, been oblivious to the racial and social influences dating is subject to. It’s a normie subreddit in which the sole objective is to preserve the image of women as saints, the same way right wingers do, and also to present the image of patriarchs as self made, same way conservatives and liberals do…
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:29 PM
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I think your conclusion to those remarks are a bit mad. I think women just tell you that because, just like black people, they see any attack on their social position as a threat to the rights they only recently acquired. Ultimately u think women do have many advantages over the average men, and it’s usually due to the fact that society projects over them certain notions of femininity that they can use in their favor in certain situations.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:24 PM
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There’s a portion in my city that’s very pedestrisnized and has a lot of trees, it’s heaven to walk through it, flowers scent the air, nice boulevards around. I wish it was a more prominent feature of city planning.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:21 PM
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Insane comment. A red pill thing to say.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:18 PM
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I think for us is just unfathomable that normies want to bring people into this world, it’s throwing a person they love into a whirlwind of suffering and absurdity, in reality it’s just that they expect their sons to be normal like them and never contemplate their son could be one of us. It is unfair but like, parents are normal people who love life carelessly driven vi their own ideals.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:17 PM
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They can like those men if they’re attracted to them in the first place.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:09 PM
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I don’t think resenting your family is good, they care about you.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 12:05 PM
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Because people are hypocritical. The sexualization of people is bad in general in my opinion
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:54 AM
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I think that “explanation” explains nothing.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:52 AM
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I think with climate change accelerating, things will get more grim and this issue will become less of a priority.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:50 AM
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It’s hard not to resent them, just don’t go full American and shoot up some place, just don’t talk to them
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:49 AM
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Thank you. It is unproductive, but like I don’t see what else I could do tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:38 AM
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I don’t deal with it, it consumes my thoughts and makes me feel miserable. I just hope it fuels me enough to one day exit this world.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:34 AM
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It’s just hard knowing I desire them and they don’t desire me.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:32 AM
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I would be lying if I said I don’t, but I think I’d do the same in their position. However I doubt the resentment of a weird loser phases them anyway so meh.
/r/AllPillDebate05/11/23 01:28 AM
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I think the oppression comes from someone else feeling like they have the power to dictate your life and your way to treat your own body. I don’t think it’s right for men to demand anything from women because they have their own life and should make any decision they want. Just as I don’t believe women have the right to dictate and demand men how to live their lives.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:25 PM
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I think if you describe your feelings as hate then that’s not a good sign.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:21 PM
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Quite true
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:19 PM
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Do you talk like this in real life? Surely not
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:15 PM
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I think this is a cope, must of us would be happy if we got any sort of attention from average American women.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 06:30 PM
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Sorry for the other long comment, about the irrationality. Again my point is not to paint us incels as the voice of reason, what I think is that reason is not the only avenue of analysis of reality. Like for example, women are often seen as irrational when they act certain ways, and I don’t think that a lie, but the issue is that rationality masks inequality very often. So for example in our society it’s irrational to not dedicate yourself to making money all the time, and to not just accept tha…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 04:55 PM
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For example, I won’t say I consider myself a feminists because on the whole, I don’t think identity politics are that useful, but I do find many ideas from feminism to be quite compelling. From what I have read of feminism, a woman is not the person herself but the role she’s forced to uphold in certain Spence’s in society, same as with the patriarch, who is not the person itself but rather the role they perform in certain social spaces. Incels are blamed for somehow perpetrating patriarchal not…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 04:46 PM
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I don’t think that attainable for most jobs and for most people, let alone with the way social spaces have become more exclusive and entry prices have gone up. Besides, and I do think feminism is kind of right on this. Approaching while in a work environment kind of sucks, even if it’s just to make friends. Most people have their social circles quite set by adulthood, and also at work you’re putting people in a difficult situation because they’re kind of forced to be civil and also they have the…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 04:00 PM
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But you yourself are being hypocritical. You already have us all defined as irrational hypocritical people, and yet you come to a forum of bad hypocritical people demanding from the intellectual consistency, that’s not very rational. And I’m not making this point because of an attempt to paint us incels as the true voice of reason, I just find it frankly mean that we, who have nothing going for us, who have been ridiculed and ostracized for decades, are told to not be emotional and irrational ab…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 03:29 PM
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But that’s quite a circular method, because it boils down to “if you want to really get to know women, you need to have a lot of interactions with them” but the issue comes when you don’t have any interactions with them, because well women are autonomous individuals, and they won’t just choose to be with you simply because you will them to. And as my favorite philosopher says (I won’t name him cause I’m a loser and I don’t want to give you material to further label me), you can doubt the conclus…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 03:21 PM
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The black pill claims to be enlightened insofar as claiming that physical attraction is what dictates your level of access Tp social life and romantic life. I have no issue with you sharing your beliefs on it’s own, but your comment characterized us as irrational hypocritical people who need to be more rational and calm, which I think it’s an unfair request to us who are literally outcast and losers. Of course we have mixed feelings, contradictions and resentment, and I don’t buy this “oh, you’r…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:45 PM
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I agree, which is why I find your original comment confusing. Of course people who have never had anything but surface level interactions with women like us are going to see them as frivolous. The point you’re making now is an excellent point and I one hundred percent agree with it, what u take issue with us you claiming that wanting live is diametrically opposed to despairing at only having surface level conversations with women. Surely you can see the point I’m making.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 12:37 PM
1

This is a beautiful post
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 11:08 AM
1

He’s the new puripina
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:55 AM
1

Every year I feel defeated knowing I haven’t done it yet. This life offers nothing but pain.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:49 AM
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Such an insane point to make. Do you honestly believe then, hand in heart, that a person who is dying from hunger and complains about it has a whining as significant as that of a each person that complains about not being able to decide where to go to eat? The post is a bit petty sure, but it points to something deeper which is the chasm in interiority between normal people and inklwells, and how our experience of life is so significantly different that our our spiritual sensitivities are so inc…
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:47 AM
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What do you expect? For lonely, sad and frustrated to be self aware, selfless and wise to a point not even normal people are? Why are we inkwells supposed to, on top having nothing going for us in life, act proudly and serenely like gods? People tend to see what they do as good and what’s foreign to them as strange, inkwells biker about it on a forum no one cares about, normal people like you are the ones with power and do nothing but bicker and moan about stuff that’s strange to you.
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:43 AM
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Wouldn’t you be implying that all women are frivolous? Or that women only talk about uninteresting things?
/r/AllPillDebate04/11/23 10:38 AM
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its sitll an image though, If anything that would paint women as the more honest of the two to unmercifully discard an image. Still my original point was that I agree with the phantasmagoric nature of attraction, and how it necessitates to project one's images onto others, I just disagreed in singling out women for that, I think it's more of an universal reality.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 01:43 PM
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People haven’t been brainwashed by feminism, the overwhelming majority of people haven’t even been in contact with feminism. Here in the third world things are the same, you guys just experience better success because you’re from the first world, so women see you guys as a free ticket out of these dumps. Nothing more.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:27 AM
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Cope. Civilization is still up. And here in less feminist places like the third world things are the same when it comes to dating, people just follow the same patterns and interpret their actions through a religious lens.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:25 AM
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I disagree with that last point though. I don’t believe it’s possible to fall in love without that projection, I just think love means shutting up about the other person projecting and allowing them to do so. Ultimately, the only thing anyone can have is a first person perspective of the world, and that comes with never being able to scape an interpretative outlook. One is always kind of interpreting one’s own shadow. My gripe with woman is this lying about knowing other people’s true selves thr…
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 11:15 AM
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I agree completely, I just want to say, this is also true for men.
/r/AllPillDebate02/11/23 02:12 AM
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I think there are clear political motivations and biases that fuel that disavowal. average joes want to preserve an status quo in which non patriarchal figures have social advantages while working endlessly for a system that doens't suit us or benefit us. also femminists project their anger towards incels in order to avoid confronting the people who are in power and who are the actual perpetrators that worry them so much. besides, it helps keep the narrative going that we're at a period of our h…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:16 PM
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absolutely, agree completely. I think the concept of disavowal is very pertinent to bring to this discussion the concept of disavowal. in which someone acknowledge the truth in order to feel entitled to deny it's content. I feel that's what we see in our profoundly cynical era. They say "I know that race is a determining facotr in social life, YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW IT WE ALL KNOW IT, but that doens't MEAN that it can have an effect in what is going on" Is like with climate change: "WE ALL KNOW, th…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 09:00 PM
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I think tehres this notion that truth can be reached and set in stone forever, that's a phenomenon that has been called "the end of history" which is this confidence that nature has been figured out, and that the only things left is to expalin away everything, which is very stiffling for scientific advancement and diffrent avenues of analysiss. Besides of the unyielding faith in positivism and the scientific method, hich is believed to be able to describe all of reality, but there are things tha…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 06:49 PM
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I think a major thing about this is that in our modern era we are caught between our old conception of morality and social responsability, and our new conception of systemic issues. Some comentators point this out, but as far as I'm aware, the moral angle that prevails is that of personal responsability through personal action, but with structural analysis that became prevalent the old moral conception of human agency was still prevalent in day to day conversation. So people are left in this str…
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:33 PM
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4 is specially poignant. the way in which morality is understood is mostly as a result of individual choices and actions, priviledge however is a systemic thing that doens't involve you doing anything malicious to be an active participant of an unfair aspect of society, so it brings them existential despair.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 04:00 PM
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why can't people accept something they have never experienced before? are they stupid? memes aside, they just have never been in a situation in which dating is an absolutely hopeless Endeavour. It's just solipsism on their part, something hasn't happened to them so it's unfathomable.
/r/AllPillDebate01/11/23 03:57 PM
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Yeah, black pillers who think the answer lie in a more conservative society are coping in my opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate31/10/23 11:16 AM
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it's over for me
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 06:44 PM
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I hope you're typing this from the shower
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 06:03 PM
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thank you
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 06:00 PM
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Wtf… You need to be put on a list
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 10:58 AM
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If she is not willing to sleep with you, and you are with her, she’s effectively out of your league.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:08 AM
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I don’t even know what you’re saying there tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 02:06 AM
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Don’t worry, here come the blue pillers and the “feminists” to explain to you why you’re real racist here.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:46 AM
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Wouldn’t have wasted so many years harboring vane hopes and would have left my family behind when I had the chance and joined the convent.
/r/AllPillDebate30/10/23 12:24 AM
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I had never blocked someone on Reddit until I started reading his comments.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 02:55 PM
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Not all men are black pillers, I’m sure many of them love their parte nets and are love din return.
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:25 PM
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I don’t think 20 is that high of a number in all honesty. If they’re 25-26 then that’s like maybe 5 people a year, that doesn’t sound unreasonable
/r/AllPillDebate29/10/23 01:25 PM
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Chile is one of the better countries down here atm, but it’s hard to emigrate there, at least in my opinion. I think I would prefer Europe and Asia over the US since there they have public healthcare and education is better there, bedsides they’re less right wing which is something I’m tired of dealing with in my country, literally had a family meme her nurseries by a right wing paramilitary group, so if I could just leave my country I’d do it, but it’s tough. Other currencies are more expensive…
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 10:15 PM
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Bogotá in Colombia, I wish I lived in any capital of a first world country.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 10:06 PM
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For the most part, people of both sexes tend to be what you described, it’s not exclusive to women and and we men aren’t morally better.
/r/AllPillDebate28/10/23 10:01 PM
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The black pill isn’t some form of cabal that sends out cards. If you consider yourself black pilled, you’re black pilled for yourself. Besides, what do you care what is losers think of you anyway
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 08:38 PM
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I'm absolutetly delighted it's back. I was under the impresioned it had gotten quarantined. Maybe I'm wrong though. but anyway, I'm quite glad it's still up.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 02:00 PM
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It couldn’t even be perceived as black pill. They would frame it as evidence that the blue pill was always right and had always said that. For them black pill is that which is always wrong, and something which is always wrong can’t ever be true because if it were it would stop being what it is.
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 12:34 PM
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I meant that is high in the way that they want you to proof without a shadow of doubt that such things are stablished, but they think that is impossible since if they were, everyone would know that they are stablished and since they don’t then nobody does then it’s all lies. (I’m hoping I managed to clarify it, not only is English not my mother tongue but I’m also kind of stupid)
/r/AllPillDebate27/10/23 11:01 AM
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My face and my race
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:23 PM
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To be fair, we’re the ones suffering here. It’s hard to be saints while desperate
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:22 PM
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You haven’t read feminism theory, you just go off from what you hear and watch on social media.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:32 AM
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I don’t understand your position in this post.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:21 AM
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I don’t think the depression comes from the black pill, I think it comes from being isolated and sexually unfulfilled
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:16 AM
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Feminism is a very sophisticated school of thought, but it’s points often get misrepresented and misunderstood
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:13 AM
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I just disagree with the framing of the question, if I was married and she decided to do so there’s fuck all I could do. I’d just end the relationship and that’s it.
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:08 AM
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What a banger of a comment ! So based
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:06 AM
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Thank you for being responsible
/r/AllPillDebate26/10/23 11:03 AM
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Lol
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 09:14 PM
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Sorry, I must have dreamt that.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:56 PM
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You’re right, I’m an idiot, I don’t know anything I’ll shut up now.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:27 PM
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Well my previous comment is evidence that incels do bring out points that don’t just point out the falling apart of government and revenge fantasies. However, how can it not be over anyway? The prevailing feminist stance seems to be that every man is a patriarch by virtue of being a man, which is not even encompassing of all feministic views anyway, but it seems like that’s the conversation is at, which also stifle the cause for those men who weren’t patriarchs and who have no hope to be integra…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 07:18 PM
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I mean sue there are things that could be done, but I think reducing the debate to personal choices would be a Jordan Peterson approach, in which every single ailment in life boils down to personal choices. it is certainly very tiresome that for some topics, social macro analsysis is encouraged, but for others, the discussion reaches a deathlock in which the only things worth discussing is every minute decisishion that is taken by every single individual.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:59 PM
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I didn't claim his assertion that the innerworkings of the relationships were invisible, I was disputing the claim that not being involved in somethign disqualifies the views someone may have about such a thing. you're jumping at shadows here.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:26 PM
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I only meant to deliniate the delusion the OP was referring to. I myself am not sure, i just think that happpiness is not a good argument to raise againt it since happiness can be argued by a myriad of possitions without giving validity to any in particular. Racists could argue that they just feel happier whenever they're not near us black people, same as isael and palestine.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 05:03 PM
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says as he complains.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:58 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree. Factos
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:11 PM
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yes, the only character ever in fiction.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:11 PM
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excuses
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 01:03 PM
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And like, I’ll give you a personal example, which I’m still not over and it pisses me off infinitely. There’s this anime “ghost in the shell” which is a highly philosophical one that discusses post humanism, existence and how machines are to be perceived in relation to human essence, the movie came out, there were complaints about scarlet Johansson not being Asian. The movie sucked, it was bland, shallow, and so so dumb. It discusses identity politics and bodily consent which are issues problema…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:19 AM
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I think what is perceived as personality is not always presented in way that might challenge it’s legitimacy. For example, “taking care of your mental health” by doing the things you mentioned aren’t things which are completely up to the individual. Sleep depends on your environment and your levels of distress about your life itself, diet depends on your income and upbringing, sport depends a great deal with physical able-ility and stuff, and therapy demands a lot of resources, same with medicat…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 11:14 AM
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There’s a term called objectification in which looking at a subject from the outside, divorced of context and attachment does allow you to gain a greater insight about it. So yeah, it is possible to know more about something by distancing yourself from it.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:57 AM
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The delusion is in thinking that evil and unfairness always manifests as some form of misery. You can be happy as a slave, you can be happy as a woman who is oppressed by your partner, you can be happy as a man who is considered second class by your partner. Happiness should only be considered as a byproduct because happiness is weird. I mean there’s people who are happy with the idea of their partners pissing into them and stuff. So happiness shouldn’t be this immediate moral trump card that bl…
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:55 AM
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Normally I hate the infantilization of a possible counterpart for being dumb and reductive, however yours it’s quite insightful. Blue pillers do uphold the view of women as mothers, and yet they have the nerve to call themselves feminists even though they hold the same views men had in the Middle Ages.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:51 AM
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Im sure some women love men the same way they are loved by them. Shallow people can love one another physical appearance to the point if adoration. I think renouncing the category of love because we can’t have it is childish, it amounts to saying “that which I can’t have doesn’t exist!” But the fact that we lack it means that it DOES exist in some capacity.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:33 AM
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There were complaints about the aspect of Robert Pattinson as Batman, men also complain a lot about casting decisions all the time. The policing of fictional characters isn’t something exclusive to women.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:28 AM
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Men also see fictional characters as competition though. I’ve heard many men complain that certain characters are only forgiven or accepted because they’re attractive and stuff. It’s a stupid thing humans do, but it’s done mostly because fiction allows us to confront reality.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:27 AM
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I think this is true, but men see fictional characters as competition too, and very often police artistic expressions in order to project themselves onto fictional characters, it’s not something exclusive to women.
/r/AllPillDebate25/10/23 10:25 AM
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I'm a blackpiller for a reson. this would be imposisble anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 04:03 PM
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jelousy about dating a girl that rides horses while some rando on the internet vouches for that?
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 03:32 PM
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it's because they see us in an ahistorical light, they think that we just came into existence and that our life situation is entirely dependant on personal choices made no longer ago than 3 weeks.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:09 PM
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There must be, there’s billions of people on this planet anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 10:53 AM
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Already did, can’t go back in time
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 10:43 AM
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This reads like a Taylor swit song.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:46 AM
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That’s not an incel though. He’s right
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:45 AM
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Mods please delete
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 02:41 AM
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I don’t think so, I know as much
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:33 AM
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Wholeheartedly agree. But in a highly privatized world, socialization itself is becoming a class privilege
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:31 AM
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I applaud the effort of this post at the very least.
/r/AllPillDebate24/10/23 01:24 AM
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God doesn’t exist dude
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 10:50 PM
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I’m sure the guy fucking every day will stop to consider morality dude. Such a cope
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 10:38 PM
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Well if it doesn’t work for incels, then I don’t see the benefits for dudes who get to fuck around in situationships
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 10:35 PM
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Such an important individual. Thank you for giving us a chance!
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:03 AM
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Only at work Never anymore. I wouldn’t approach a woman at this point, I’m hideous and I know it’s over for me so I wouldn’t want to bother them. Was never successful in the past, that’s why I’m an inc*l Never Two, they were depressing and pathetic failures, I didn’t even know what to say or do Never
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 11:03 AM
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No chance. If you want a woman who’s with you only because she’s being forced to, and who you have to order around you’re kind of psycho
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 10:57 AM
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Body count itself doesn’t matter to me, I would ideally though like to have a partner with whom I shared beliefs and experiences, and I think that as someone who has always been alone, it would be hard to relate to her.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 10:55 AM
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Idk, I don’t think I could. I’d be so grossed out.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 10:52 AM
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Mods, ban this person. Is gonna get the sub shut down.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 03:49 AM
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I would be grossed out to be honest. Like living on the streets is very rough, and I wouldn’t even be able to sit still just imagining what this person must have gone through. Besides what if she wanted some emotional support for really heavy stuff, no way.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 03:48 AM
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Most people are part of the hive mind in some way or another. And it’s simply because people don’t form thoughts on their own most of the time, most pf the thoughts people have a thought to them, and education is a highly ideological space.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 03:16 AM
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If you don’t see much difference then you yourself hold a very vague idea of what feminism is.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 03:05 AM
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Just like every normie, lacking in arguments and always resorting to fear mongering.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:52 AM
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That must be such a miserable life for that dude, my goodness…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:48 AM
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Actual feminism and tik tok feminism are different things.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:43 AM
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Normies are swimming in ideological coping. They are willing to suffer in order to prove to themselves that they’re actually happy. Truth is, most couples are made out of people who resent one another from personal observation.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:39 AM
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That’s not a good proposal though, so you get to be this post modern men while your partner has to be this modern woman, it’s kind of unfair to her. I mean surely you’d want to be in equal footing as her, surely.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:37 AM
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Personally, I think women on average are quite beautiful, maybe that’s just me because I’m an ugly loser, but I see women on the street which are unbelievably beautiful. I think men on average are just not as good looking unfortunately.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:35 AM
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I just don’t see what benefit women would get in order to stop anyway. If they can get sex, money and status through their beauty, there’s no compelling argument for why they should stop. I don’t remember who is it, but there’s a quote somewhere about how moral signaling is use due to lack of power. At the end of the day, men have no power to tell these women with whom and with how many people they should sleep with, and that’s that. I think we black pillers need to seek other solutions beyond m…
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:34 AM
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It’s baffling how people who’ve had nothing but suffering and loneliness their whole lives would risk the same fate befalling their children. So selfish and evil.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:29 AM
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It’s just impossible without being super attractive.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:27 AM
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You kind of do, you can’t desire to be in a traditional relationship without being traditional yourself. You can’t have you cake and eat it too.
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 02:25 AM
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Are you even a traditional partner anyway? Do you have a house, is your industry stable? I mean hell, I’d society even in the same place it was back then?
/r/AllPillDebate23/10/23 01:33 AM
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Do you really like conservative girls? I mean you do you i Guess
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 10:10 PM
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I don’t think happiness is relevant to be honest. What we had before in terms of socialization were highly restricted interactions anyway, you can guess as much by simply reading any diary of any woman of the last century, interactions before weren’t more genuine. Sure, black pillers are too simplistic and naive, that’s why we’re not fit to live in this world, and we should organize in order to work towards that goal, since in the end your solution amounts to “if you made it, you had what it tak…
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 07:22 PM
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What do you care about people dressing how they want? They could wear fucking fuchsia , it wouldn’t matter.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 06:35 PM
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This smells like a blue puller trying to get the sub banned.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 06:34 PM
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Isn’t part of the issue the black pill points to that attractive men get put on a pedestal and in turn their morals are unquestioned?
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 06:05 PM
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Never were women wife material, they were historically forced to be so, but it wasn’t an innate quality that they simply had. Women today simply have more access to education and a wide variety of options.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 11:27 AM
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I think most people’s thoughts are very monolithic and repetitive, both women and men. I don’t think either sex is particularly novel in that sense.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 11:24 AM
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Women put men on pedestals all the time, look at K-pop stans and Harry styles fans.
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 11:23 AM
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I like feminism
/r/AllPillDebate22/10/23 02:32 AM
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I mean yeah, i relate to that.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 05:41 PM
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What about anti work? Like what are you illustrating with this example? That people that have less tend to grow bitter and envious? I mean isn’t that obvious? Like we have many black pillers here which are constantly told to not focus on what which they don’t have and work on their personality, aren’t you doing the same with these anti work crowd? Like I don’t even like that sub but I just think it’s a very obscure point the one you’re trying to make.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 05:29 PM
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Personally I see no clear way forward in your post. I honestly don’t, it seems to pivot between focusing on personal accountability and not at the same time. Maybe someone smarter will be able to comprehend what you’re trying to get across, I give up.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 05:19 PM
2

Why are you throwing this at me, you said that social decay is prevalent. If you boil it down to resentment and envy, then that means that the society which is effectively ruled by those in power is propende to envy. If you think people are just lazy and envious then fine, but then what is the excuse then? That those in power need to be more conservative and merciless in order to avoid the social decay? How is that supposed to help the butter and envious ones? Or hand on heart I’m asking, what d…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 04:57 PM
1

That’s a very liberal reading of my posts. I’ll try to rephrase it for the sake of the discussion. What I’m saying is that before when rape wasn’t as persecuted, women were victims of rape more often and of domestic violence. Before many more men than now we’re getting sex because they were raping women and beating the consent out of them. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with trying to convince women to sleep with you, that’s pretty much what flirting is, but that was not your original poin…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 04:49 PM
1

A comparison is usually made in order to highlight a space for similitude. The comparison used has a very nefarious implication, but his comparison was that hitler used to perceive racist attitudes as common sense, and many women do as well. You can of course try to debate his comparison, but you’re not representing the comparison in the way in which intended. Now, it is admittedly very childish and disproportionate to compare every women to Hitler in terms of their dating choices, but Hitler is…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 04:41 PM
3

I think you’re way to kind to rich people frankly
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 04:00 PM
1

I think it’s better to just buy take out or buy a T-shirt instead
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 03:08 PM
1

Humans are social creatures, for the most part nobody can be happy single.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:44 PM
2

I think you’re too optimistic. Sex with women has never been the easiest thing, it has always been reserved to the better men in a social setting. It’s only that the prosecution on rape has increased that we now see that women in general have aren’t interested in the average guy at all. It was an oppressive system that needed to die, and I’d like to believe black pillers wouldn’t be happy forcing a woman to be with them against their wishes.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:43 PM
3

What we have now is the result of the system we had before. If it was a better system but it couldn’t last longer nor re produce itself then it was a bad system to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:38 PM
1

4.0
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:33 PM
1

I think this is too extreme, if she’s attracted to you of course you’ll need to take action, is just that your advances are more likely to be reciprocated. Like let’s not get silly here, attractive people don’t get parters out of manifesting.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:31 PM
0

I just think it’s pathetic that someone would go through another person’s post history to be honest. Like this is a social network, who has time to do that?
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:29 PM
1

Your reading comprehension is in the mud.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:24 PM
1

I think inside every person there’s a hitler regardless of their sex or gender. That’s why we need social structures to keep our destructive nature in check, instead of enabling our ego trips.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:23 PM
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I think one aspect of social analysis that must be kept on the forefront is the difference between historical and a historical thinking. What I mean is, I get when people say that incels are just rejected because of their mentality or whatever, I don’t think that’s the whole thing but for the sake of aegument, let’s say that it was the case. You’d still have to explain how such mentality is tied to the social environment and personal history of someone. I think a very important insight that soci…
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:22 PM
4

I think social decay is used too liberally, the rich are year after year reporting record earnings, in a society that’s based around consumerism that can only be viewed as unprecedented progress. You being miserable, hopeless and powerless is not the system failing, but it’s the system succeeding. The less power the lower classes have, the better.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:14 PM
1

Neji was objectively wrong
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:10 PM
5

You shouldn’t waste your money on that unless you’re a millionaire. If you’re working class you ought to go enjoy your money, it’s not easy to earn anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:09 PM
2

I don’t think rethoric is what radicalizes people. Usually people who probed to being radicalized live run specific social conditions that allow such radicalization to occur in the first place.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 02:07 PM
1

It is perfectly possible
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 12:08 PM
1

It is quite evident that you can’t have people thinking something you KNOW not to be true. It’s frankly remarkable that you know this person’s friends even better than himself.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 12:05 PM
1

Such a generous soul
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:59 AM
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It’s the same rhetoric rich people use. They’re just lying for ideological purposes
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:26 AM
4

All wallets matter
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:24 AM
2

Im sire he had never known the concept of friendship until you pointed it out.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:23 AM
3

No on say there hadn’t been tough times before.
/r/AllPillDebate21/10/23 11:22 AM
1

Im going to assume you’re asking in good faith. First and foremost, taking the black pill means that you realize that being an incel is an inevitability regardless of social conditions and circumstances, so I wasn’t thinking of reducing the number of incels, since I take that to be a constant, which was only made clear with the sexual liberation movement. And I want to further reiterate, I do NOT believe that we should in any way shape or form curb the individual freedoms and legal entitlements …
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 07:22 PM
1

Disagree
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 05:27 PM
16

Do words have no meaning anymore. Cel means celibate. How can you have someone settle for you and still be celibate.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 02:08 PM
7

Some incels are pretty mysoginistic, to a shocking degree even, but the black pill isn’t inherently misogynistic
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 11:35 AM
11

Just block him. He’s so disingenuous anyway. It’s not worth it to waste your time addressing his stupidity
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 11:34 AM
2

Already did, and will do more often from now on
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 11:29 AM
1

Increased wages Shorter work hours Funding of public events in which to integrate somehow to society Snctioned sicide Increased possibilities for international travel More affordable education Among others
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 11:28 AM
2

Such a wild assertion. Jesus Christ.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 02:50 AM
1

Not every man is a patriarch.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 02:13 AM
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who even is chivalrous nowadays anyway. But even if you were to fall in love with someone that loved you back, I think those things you listed would become trivial anyway. I don't think we should see love as a purely transactional endeavor despite what the main narrative says.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 02:12 AM
1

I don't pay that much attention to that to be honest. I don't see how It makes any difference to be honest.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:59 AM
1

As far as I understand it, not all men classify as a patriarch. I think conflating both is missing the point of feminism.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:54 AM
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You don’t even have to think about it. I’ve never understood people who have enough time on the hands to even screenshot stuff from other subs and post it to their own as religiously as they do. Like don’t they have fucking jobs or hobbies?
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:47 AM
1

I agree. It is baffling how black pilled people idealize right wingers. They’re the most uncaring to our struggle and also the ones that would be the least interests in supporting structural changes that could help us. But I think it’s because the left sold us out pretty much. They went for a liberal branch of feminism that sees men like us as people to just ignore, and the right instead focused on lonely people to gain political power and push anti foreigner narratives.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:43 AM
3

It is shameful trolling. Wish you could just block people on Reddit. They add nothing to the discussion and they only want to wind up others.
/r/AllPillDebate20/10/23 01:18 AM
2

You should be proud though. I’m saying you’re mature.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 11:19 PM
3

That’s a very mature mindset to have
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 11:17 PM
1

I'm a fan of yours
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 04:39 PM
1

Firstly THANK YOU!! it is quite an illuminating analogy to compare it with the madonna/whore dichotomy. I think just because women say they're feminists it doesnt necceseraily mean that they are actual feminnists. Many women actively push mysoginistic narratives and just assume that due to being women, they're de facto femminists; which contraditorily further perpetuates the idea that women are independent thinkers. But like what can you do at the end of the day. People always feel entitled to d…
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 03:23 PM
1

you shoudln't engage with him, he's a troll
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:53 PM
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" So basically you want the right to shame women" nowhere did he claim such a thing.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:30 PM
3

Social media and Podcasts aren't real life.
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 01:27 PM
1

What’s smv?
/r/AllPillDebate19/10/23 10:53 AM
1

Sexual relations don’t follow market logic I don’t think. I don’t even think current market follows the logic stablished in the nineteenth century either.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 11:36 PM
3

I think that 5 minutes diagnosis you did on the dozen of people here is very accurate and reliable.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 11:34 PM
1

Part of having no hope is being in a mental state that even prevents you from seeing improving as possible. Most people here don’t need tips or counseling, the need psychological help.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 11:30 PM
1

Not every man is a patriarch by virtue of being a man. A patriarch is a specific designation that only applies to those men who ratify their power ve the subjugation of women and the exploitation of other men.
/r/AllPillDebate16/10/23 09:16 AM
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I don’t think I spend enough time on Reddit to hate any particular subreddits
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 02:19 PM
1

I’m too cowardly to do it
/r/AllPillDebate15/10/23 02:17 PM
1

I think our idea of help is conflicting with the myth of individual agency and willingness, an example of this are conservative voters. Helping the silent majority involves helping them despite their unwillingness to be helped. Maybe you’re here due to some morbid fascination with the forlorn, and that’s fine. Like people seem to really dislike projecting their moral vendettas on the plight of the less fortunate, but if you’re gonna preach help and then say that people are hopeless for not wanti…
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 03:41 PM
2

You’re literally proving that society outright tells lonely men that they’re inherently lost causes. Kind of proving him right.
/r/AllPillDebate12/10/23 02:42 AM
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I can’t be arsed to go into details. But there’s extensive literature on the matter. At least in my speciality , women of color discoursesively are the most oppressed collective on the planet. I already struggle a lot with racism and classism, I couldn’t live if I added sexism to that.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:17 PM
1

I wouldn’t be able to stand being alive as a black woman, they have the most difficult lives I reckon.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 09:01 PM
1

Right
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 05:19 PM
1

Oh, so between far right and the right you’re in the middle. Ok. Like all Americans then, to reiterate, liberals.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 05:14 PM
1

You’re most likely an American, so of course you’re a liberal. After all you guys only have two parties: - Christian liberals - woke liberals
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 05:11 PM
1

Your reading comprehension is in the mud
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 12:05 PM
1

Most rich people don’t work, live off of others work, actively level society to cater to their individual gains, exploit others, and get away with this solely by virtue of being born rich. Neets don’t work, don’t do anything, but they’re generally middle or lower class individuals, who are barely scrapping by, live in a very sorry condition, and were driven to that lifestyle by years of abuse and neglect. You hating on them by virtue of not contributing to society and calling you loser is turnin…
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:34 AM
1

I think personality matters, but what passes as nice in women’s eyes is determined by how hot the guy is and how unproblematic their views are in relation to the zeitgeist.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:30 AM
1

Why are liberals so obsessed with their particular lives. Go and be happy with your boyfriend. Your particular life is only significant and indicative of itself. Social discussions are concerned with broader trends and patterns.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:29 AM
1

I live in an underdeveloped country, women still here tend to view men who are less than 6 feet as less desirable.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:26 AM
1

Love is an Inter subjective category in my opinion, you never know if you’re in love with someone, but you being willing to expand and change the definition of live is what retrospectively gives validity to your feelings.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:23 AM
1

Dating is definitely affected by race perception. Racism is something that’s transversal to all social spheres, it’s just that women are somehow excluded from being called out by virtue of being women I guess?
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:22 AM
1

I’d say academia, from my experience is post black pill, and not outright black pill, and rightly so as well. I feel most people who originally were black pill become post black pill fairly quickly. I think that’s why most black pill understand the “beta bucks” thing.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:20 AM
1

It’s just a liberal mindset, that thinks that the ills of society can be ignored when the markets that generate those ills are closed. In reality, social conditions and social interactions are what generate mindsets and in turn, markets. You don’t fix inceldom by closing the spaces in which they congregate, but by fixing the social conditions that produce them. Same way that you can’t fix homelessness by making it illegal to live on the streets.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:19 AM
1

You just hate poor people doing the same things rich people do. I agree that everyone should work and contribute in one way to society, and your value as a person should be your value to society. However, thinking that are people who are probably depressed and isolated are they way they are just because is dumb. They weren’t born neets, they became that because of the social conditions that pushed them to be that way. Or maybe you’re one of those “I can overcome society” types of liberal who are…
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:15 AM
1

Liberals are outwardly progressive and conservatives in the implications of their beliefs. Most liberal feminists haven’t even read a word of feminist literature everywhere, they just assume that by virtue of liking night shows they’re knowledgeable about feminism and liberalism, but they’re not. They’re more often than not ignorant and conservative in practice.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:10 AM
1

I’m astonished how many blue pillers mindlessly throw around assumptions with problematic implications. If I take your premise that attraction is a moral choice, then I’m NECESSARILY admitting that I think sexual difference and sexuality is a matter of choice, as well as sexual identity. Which it is not. Sexuality is a thing which is perceived as a natural imposition, therefore people cannot help being attracted to the gender that attracts them, for better or for worse, regardless of the moral c…
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:07 AM
1

I only want a girl who is a leftist and a quite a bit cynical. And I mean a true leftist, not a TikTok leftist.
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 11:00 AM
2

I suppose nothing
/r/AllPillDebate09/10/23 10:59 AM
1

I’m not white
/r/AllPillDebate07/10/23 09:04 PM
1

Been in therapy since 2008
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 07:03 PM
0

Yeah, maybe that’s why death is warranted then, I’m too needy.
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 04:48 AM
1

Cowardice
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 04:47 AM
1

If they were in our shoes they’d be filled with resentment and bitterness as well so 🤟
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 04:46 AM
3

Black pill. Personal experience
/r/AllPillDebate04/10/23 04:43 AM
2

plastic surgery at least is available for eveyrone, suicide on the other hand is illegal and the methods for carrying it out are heavily regulated in most countries, the painless ones that is.
/r/AllPillDebate26/09/23 02:55 PM
1

What do you expect from a website that has defended Nazis, colonialism, imperialism, musk, billionaires etc etc. I’d be worried if Reddit wasn’t anti incel
/r/AllPillDebate24/09/23 07:25 PM
1

Yeah, that’s why the boner conservatives have with Ancient Rome is stupid. Any system that fails due to not being able to overcome its own contradictions wasn’t that great of a system to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 07:35 PM
1

Fuck off then you escencialist idiot
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 07:08 PM
1

that would be yes and yes. so in your view, which is very conservative, you have wordier ways to say good times breed weak people which bring about bad times. newsflash, our parents and grandparents weren't all that magnanimous or superlative. if a generation is unable to prevent the downfall of the syste, that allowed them to thrive, that generation is necessarily impotent.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:45 PM
1

You people are very liberal on your interpretation of femminist theory, to the cause's detriment in my opinion.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 04:43 PM
0

well evidently those kids aren't up to the challenge of saving cilization effectively.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:49 PM
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the children of those households created femiminism or at best they couldn't stop it. So at best those househoulds raise weak children.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:08 PM
1

Nazis are coming back. keep being deluded.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 01:05 PM
1

Those households aren’t successful enough to keep being mainstream then.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 12:59 PM
1

The Nazi party is coming back in Europe, England has only been ruled by more extreme right wingers with every prime minister they name. In Latin America, talk of mass estate murdering is becoming a main talking point of the ruining parties. America, the great champions of liberalism just saw the right to abortion dismantled, and yet you think that somehow liberalism is winning. Russia, a fascist country is waging war against Nazis and yet you still live in the delusion that liberal society is wi…
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 12:58 PM
1

I think you’re blind to reality. There is a huge wave of right wing extremism sweeping the planet, we’re just a few months away from a country having successfully implemented shariah law due to the power vacuum the United States created. Liberals like you not taking seriously the issues that plague our society shows that you guys had no idea how to combat the right, and all of your political positions only aim at disenfranchisement.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 11:21 AM
2

I disagree only when you mention that men are happy under the patriarchy, patriarchs are happy under patriarchy, but in feminist theory as I understand it, not every man is born a patriarch.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 11:15 AM
3

People moan too much about civilization, as if it wasn’t plagued with maladies and suffering. Besides we are the product of that gloried western civilization anyway, so there’s certainly something in it that prevents it from existing forever. If civilization falls let it be so.
/r/AllPillDebate22/09/23 11:11 AM
1

That phenomenon is called transference in psychoanalysis.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 01:15 PM
2

I love this post. And yeah, inkels are blamed for the ills of the patriarchy due to transference, since women are radically unwilling to see themselves as active parties in enforcing the patriarchy they so decry.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 11:05 AM
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fuck him meet to the corpse of his boyfriend I agree with your argument but using such ridiculous and blatantly wrong example undermines your point and your position.
/r/AllPillDebate21/09/23 10:53 AM
1

8, 8, 9, 9, 6, 9
/r/AllPillDebate18/09/23 11:24 AM
1

I might be wrong here, but it seemed that in your original statement, the way it was framed was implying that austistic behaviors mirrored anti social behaviors. Which is a factual claim. Instead of framing it in the sense of perception, that is “autistic behaviors are perceived to be antisocial” Those two statements have vastly different implications.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 04:59 PM
1

not every statement, only those statements that rely on universal claims such as the one you made. Common sense is not infalible, nor are feelings.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 04:48 PM
2

care to share the studies you're basing that assertion on?
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 03:51 PM
2

They know creepy people aren’t threats though. Since creepiness is not equal to danger. Like imagine if a study came out saying all shooters have always worn blue jeans, would that make blue jeans threatening? Same with creepiness, creepiness is this myth that arose from the hubris normal people have that makes them believe that that victims of violence were so because they were to blind to recognize signs and social cues. But at the end of the day is just hubris and cultural victim blaming. Aga…
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 11:50 AM
1

I think there’s a tendency to justify everything that’s normal as good due to being normal. Even though I commend you for the improvement you made in your social life, these were people judging you without knowing you. They shouldn’t get to both have the social advantages on top of the moral high ground. They considered you a threat based on indeterminate factors. That is not right.
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/23 11:25 AM
2

Man no way, I couldn’t go back to my life knowing what I’m missing out on. It’s already difficult as it is.
/r/AllPillDebate16/08/23 07:50 PM
0

I have no idea where you get the identitary spin to it.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 07:35 PM
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you're moving the goalpost there, you initially had said that serial killers were evil, now you're saying killing is an evil act, howveer killiong in our society isn't alwasy an evil ac, and multiple instancess of mass killing are sanctioned and celebrated. so killing itself is not evil, but the idea of seeing killing as always evil allienates killing form the context in which it presets itself rendering killers as sub-humane by proxy.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 02:50 PM
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The idea of evil itself implies this innate defect that can’t be accounted for and that sort of alienates the existence of certain things and individuals from that of harmonious existence. Therefore if you see a serial killer as someone who is simply and inherently evil, you might be overlooking the conditions in which serial killers arise. Therefore seeing serial killers as inherently evil is the same logic followed by woke leftists that imply that men are evil by virtue of being men, meaning t…
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 12:48 PM
-9

Evil is in the eye of that sees evil.
/r/AllPillDebate15/08/23 10:16 AM
3

The irony
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 06:59 AM
2

The intellect of marzipan for sure.
/r/AllPillDebate13/08/23 06:55 AM
3

Who do you expect to sign up first? People who are happy with their lives? One of the dumbest responses I’ve read in a while.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 11:21 PM
2

Right
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 06:05 PM
1

Not really, the semantically implication of “pick me” is meant to imply that said woman bases her personality towards appealing to men, which is markedly misogynistic. Normie wouldn’t be misandrist since the epithet is aimed negatively towards their worldview. Sino would be misandrist though I think.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 05:21 PM
7

That’s impossible. You’re asking someone to have no bitterness despite enduring year after year of rejection and loneliness.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 05:14 PM
7

In your own initial statement you say these are attractive women. They are attractive already. You’re just manufacturing this a point of rejection for them so that you don’t have to face the fact that they’d reject you instead. Like such a cope.
/r/AllPillDebate12/08/23 05:12 PM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism Get a better education. Men are held back by the law demonstrably all throughout the world. Men are less likely to gain custody, they’re the primary victims of all sorts of violence, they’re else’s likely to get access to public funding, etc etc etc. And again, your proposed mode of societal change is retroactive, so it’s a nice trick liberals use to always be right. If you fail at life you didn’t try hard enough, and the people who succeeded weren’t lu…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 11:28 PM
2

Liberalism is the idea that all social ills are remedied by individual actions instead of collective actions. I mentioned Joan of Arc because under your way of thinking, women’s rights should have been solved by women becoming figures larger than life and overcoming their structural hurdles. Is the type of feminism that thinks Hilary Clinton is a feminist cause she’s a woman. Again, not everyone can be Benjamin Franklin. Like by God, do you really adopt this exceptionalism perspective on everyth…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 10:58 PM
2

Why do liberals always assume that if you don’t bend over backwards their stupid icons you must necessarily be Thai conservative dweeb. I never said Andrew Tate was the answer, that’s just you projecting your assumptions onto me. As to Benjamin Franklin, the very notion that in order to transcend your miserable life you must become a figure that’s greater than history is a stupid point to make, and is rooted in this liberal confidence that we can all be rulers and celebrated individuals. But tha…
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 10:39 PM
3

Why do people overrate founding fathers so much? It’s baffling. Thinking that the best male role models for men are men who didn’t experience the challenges modern men do is just dumb.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 09:25 PM
2

Entirely profesional and respectful. That’s it.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 01:19 PM
12

Absolutely true. Social skills are formed due to group interactions, they can’t be acquired through lonely endeavors.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 08:02 AM
4

It’s been said to death. But it conflicts with most women self perception of them being progressive.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 03:30 AM
2

That’s not the greatest insult you can use against a woman though.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 03:27 AM
1

The post is about people being called nice guys
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 03:26 AM
-3

People are so hyperbolic. It is not the biggest insult you can get as a man by a country mile.
/r/AllPillDebate11/08/23 12:29 AM
4

Then I guess it is over. It’ll just be a matter of days at best until this sun gets banned as well. It was a fun ten years or so.
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:49 PM
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There needs to be a backup subreddit. If this gets banned, it’s over for gender discussions on reddit
/r/AllPillDebate10/08/23 11:41 PM
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You seem quite knowledgeable about that imagined situation you made up.
/r/AllPillDebate09/08/23 04:05 PM
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Some people in this sun have too much of an avenger complex. Like you need to find something that gives meaning to your life beyond being an inkwell
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 05:59 AM
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Why is there’s always some other place from people to go. Imagine saying “where do you go after finding out you need oxygen to live, like whites next” There’s no next, the blackpill isn’t like a dating strategy or anything. It’s just a realization of what the truth is. There’s no beyond it.
/r/AllPillDebate08/08/23 02:04 AM
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Get over yourself.
/r/AllPillDebate07/08/23 12:26 AM
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Please don’t hurt my feelings.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 11:45 PM
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It’s the format pf Reddit. A thread has a specific topic of discussion. Coming into a thread and dismissing the subject matter of the discussion is such a baffling move.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:05 PM
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Sati no commie is rich coming from someone who doesn’t know what communism is.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 03:57 PM
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Do you realize that most governments monitor people they consider are saying scary things? Btw I’m an |ncel, but like getting back at society is a scary mindset to have. But like keep on defending wanna be school shooters I guess.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:35 PM
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If the system we created gave rise to our current state of societal development, then it wasn’t a good enough system to begin with.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:19 PM
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I’m black pill but I have to agree. The hubris many people show here when it comes to people in the past is baffling. At least nowadays we can live and complain about being outcasts in society, back then we would have gotten parts of our bodies chopped up for the entertainment of normies.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:18 PM
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Part of a good solution is to be able to contain within itself a way to reproduce itself. If arranged marriages went out of fashion is because people just didn’t like them. You can’t go around that unfortunately. Mass controlling half of the population is not a good solution and it has proven to be a shit solution.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 02:05 PM
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This post is directly proposing mass control and subjugation of one gender by another. This is a discussion about men controlling women.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:57 PM
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If your idea of a solution implies forcing half the population of the world to do something they don’t want, then your solution is shit.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:53 PM
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Why would I feel pride over people I don’t know.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:50 PM
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I think it’s because they’re anti white feelings conflict with their desires, which fuels their determination.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:43 PM
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You need to be put on a watchlist. You can’t and shouldn’t feel like you need to get back at the world.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:40 PM
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I think in the original subreddit, there was a subset of us who were progressives. Wha happened sadly is that the right co-opted our spaces and conversations.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:36 PM
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Unfortunately, the black pill was co-opted by mysoginistic pricks. I do however believe that the black pill is the result of men feeling tired of the patriarchy though, no in a way, black pill is at its chore, progressive. It’s just that leftist in leftists fashion , don’t care about those groups of people at the bottom of society and the right is always happy to capitalize.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:27 PM
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You speak as though you were dating people like us anyway. You aren’t so really it’s a non issue. Besides you’re not dating is because of how we look, so what we think or feel is irrelevant since for that you’d first want to know us personally and it’s not going to happen anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 01:16 PM
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I’m hoping someday I can find the strength to do it.
/r/AllPillDebate06/08/23 06:05 AM
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You had a chad best fried, so you weren’t that isolated from the start. People can’t just learn social interactions in a vacuum. They need to have social networks that garganta them the opportunity to do the learning. Regardless of the country you live in, you need to have a sort of on an in on social customs for you to be able to appropriate them. Like I can take your advice or keep my mindset, but that won’t just manifest new friends on its own. I’d still need someone else to come and complete…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 11:23 PM
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You need to be put on a watchlist.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 08:15 PM
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Well the issue with social interactions is that they aren’t a manifestation of the individual’s inner desires, but rather an interaction between the desires of two people. Regardless of what he does or thinks, he still need an outside party to complete his ideal and grant him that social interaction. But that’s not something that happens magically, but is the result of societal conditioning of individuals into the customs and forms of the majority. If you’re in the minority, you have less chance…
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/23 08:07 PM
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Reddit is not feministic. It’s mostly right wing and normie. Women simply think that they’re feminists due to being women. Which ironically is one of the most escencialists and mysoginistic notion to have about women at large.
/r/AllPillDebate31/07/23 11:38 AM
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People keep this mythical idea of love as something independent of class and ethnicity. It’s never been that and it’ll never be that. It’s part of taking the black pill, you need to abandon these mythical notions of goodness and sincerity in love.
/r/AllPillDebate23/05/23 09:12 AM
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/r/AllPillDebate25/04/23 10:10 AM
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Well I think that's a very naive view of the world. Interactions aren't based on knowledge, they're also based in status, perception, circumstance and so on. Same with a dog or a cat, you may know in general how to interact with a dog, but if that dog happens to be angry about something you didn't know, or you run into one without previous knowledge and it attacks you, it would be laughable to claim that such an attack was the result of lack of knowledge.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 03:09 PM
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Well the fbi killed a sitting president and has committed crimes against humanity. It’s kind of like being asked what you think about being in the bad people list that Charles Manson wrote.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 01:08 PM
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I don’t think the trend of emigration is that strong, however I’d welcome it. It would make people more sympathetic to people from other countries. I’m hoping they become less bigoted, and it also helps making people vote not only with their own country’s benefit in mind but also keeping in mind their country’s impact in the lives of people living outside of it.
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 01:06 PM
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Where does the need to be moral come from? Like I’m not advocating for it, for me immigrating to another country just to meet someone feels excessive and too much of a bother. But it’s not illegal. You might, MIGHT find discontent online about it, but you can find people who disapprove with anything that you do. So it’s not as if taking any position in life will come with moral certainty anyway, even less so in post modernity. If you find someone overseas that seems to love you, and you love the…
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 01:01 PM
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Someone being successful at something doesn’t necessarily mean that their views about something are wrong or right. Judgement is wrong or right in relation to itself. An example of this is industry. You may have a worker who knows a machine in an out, but there might be an analyst or historian that despite not being able to make the machine function, can give you more information that may not allow you to operate the machine, but it helps you to place it in historical context. I think what you i…
/r/AllPillDebate09/04/23 12:55 PM
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right. all marriages.
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 04:39 PM
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you don't know where this data is from. don't know how it' affected by demographics, by socio eocnomic background. these are just more of your racist apologia masked as sociology.
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 04:25 PM
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Doesn’t really mean anything without contrasting it with population figures.
/r/AllPillDebate04/04/23 10:36 AM
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There is evidence of the pope having fuck parties. The idea that people before weren’t as big into casual sex as we are is ludicrous. Even more so when most studies show people are shaving less sex now than they were. Also how would you even go about forbidding casual sex? Who would get penalized? How would such a policy gain support? It’s just so ludicrous.
/r/AllPillDebate01/04/23 05:42 PM
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You seem to know a lot about he black people feel. That’s great. Maybe you’re right, white people have it harder in dating.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 10:11 AM
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Women aren’t more progressive, let’s not pretend women weren’t an active party on white supremacy. I’m black, I’d rather be white if I could. I’ve been harassed, threatened and humiliated at every turn in life. And I have no success with women. So at least being white, evens if I stayed a loser, I wouldn’t be called names or discriminated against in public spaces.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 10:06 AM
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We live in postmodern times. The ideological market today gives you stats on any point of view you may have. As some philosophers have noted, intelligence is the art of discarding information that is sold as necessary. I’ll defer to discourse analysis which is what I know about. Sexuality is portrayed in black people usually as a non loving act. Whites still hold the discoursive power when it comes to meaningful relationships, and you can see it in representations of art, media and narratives us…
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 10:02 AM
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If you don’t get it I’d recommend you investigate on it. I won’t try to change your mind because you won’t. And I’m not a historian anyway. I can prove yo you that discourses on blackness are most of the time associated with ugliness, but then you’ll reply from your experience and it’ll be useless. Besides you don’t have a point, you feel things are a certain way to which I’ll only say, I don’t feel like that’s the case.
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 09:41 AM
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You’re entitled to express your feelings I guess
/r/AllPillDebate29/03/23 09:32 AM
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I appreciate you taking your time to try to redeem racists like this dude, but education can’t win over prejudice. You can present him one thousand good arguments proving racism impacts all levels of social life, and he’ll still say that he feels as though a black man can come at any moment and steal a pencil at their office.
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 11:05 PM
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This comment is unnecessary garbage, but I whole heartedly agree with you. 1000 percent. The perception of black and indigenous people as ugly in comparison to whites fueled the slave owner propaganda that equates black people and indigenous people to soulless animals.
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 11:01 PM
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Banned again?
/r/AllPillDebate28/03/23 10:42 PM
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I’m hoping one day I’ll have the courage to end my life.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 10:17 AM
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It might be possible on an individual basis, since life is often unpredictable and stuff. But usually very hot women are brought into the social circles of the ultra rich to become trophy wives.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 10:17 AM
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I agree wholeheartedly, but it shows that our society is not one in which we are free participants but coerced parties.
/r/AllPillDebate24/03/23 10:14 AM
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You’re always so racist. You have got to be a troll looking to get this sub banned.
/r/AllPillDebate21/03/23 08:16 AM
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Whatever
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 10:36 AM
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I don't know, look it up lol
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 02:50 AM
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sure
/r/AllPillDebate17/03/23 02:48 AM
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You might be into something
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 04:40 PM
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“There’s no evidence beyond the evidence presented which is cherry picked” Smartest liberal
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 04:39 PM
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Lazy. You forgot to factor in the conditions under which people migrate to the us, and the migratory system. People don’t just show up in the us.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 02:48 PM
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It’s impossible with these people. It’s like talking to the super ego, it’s about systemic things when it suits them, but when it doesn’t they refer to individual choices. The she way they function is beyond me.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 02:48 PM
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There's scientific literature on it. It's not on me to educate you, you're an adult.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:39 AM
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Monarchic rule.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 01:38 AM
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The idea that you can alter your masculinity through hormones would be trans-masculine. Masculinity was born under divine right, it died when liberal democracy came into power.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 12:18 AM
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Get a peer reviewed paper published and then I’ll consider reading your mysoginistic nonsense.
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 12:17 AM
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You thinking criminals are dark triads is laughable. As if we lived in a society in which powerful men were held accountable. You’re kind of in a fragile position, since you can’t defend your point without betraying the main tenets of feminism, resorting to racism, or just championing Disney ethics. The black pill it’s been scientifically proven time and time again. All you’ve got against it is indignation and reactionary takes. If you want to beat incels, at least take the time to understand th…
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 12:15 AM
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On average, sure. The ideal however is heavily westernized. Diet is hugely tied to income. Which is influenced by social factors historically determined such as race .
/r/AllPillDebate16/03/23 12:09 AM
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Height is not an isolated factor, height is also tied to certain nationalities and backgrounds. If that study accounted for race, chances are they’d find taller whites make the most money.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:03 AM
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Men overwhelmingly don’t think that. But even if for the sake of argument we did, age would be a factor of which every member of society participates, everyone will be between 18-23, so it’s something relatively accesible to achieve, height isn’t, since it’s biologically determined. Either way, a 23 year old is barely and adult, their brain had just developed and they’re fresh of off school, they don’t know the world and are still super immature. Personally I’m not attracted to that. I think men…
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 11:01 AM
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It’s very easy to beat the ideas of a collective who’s arguments you caricaturize The idea of dark tryads are the manifestation of a personality which is enabled by social privilege and in line with the values promoted by our economic system. Our definition of a winner revolves around certain tenets that are socially accepted as positive, and that are well suited for a narcissistic culture. It’s been reported multiple times, people in relationships don’t value vulnerability, they see love as a t…
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 10:54 AM
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You sound like Margaret thatcher. Appallingly ignorant. There’s social sciences and political sciences who study the social changes, but I guess you know better.
/r/AllPillDebate15/03/23 10:43 AM
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But being potentially evil is not the same as being actually evil. A person who thinks of hooting someone is not morally the same as someone who shots someone.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 11:08 AM
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From a literary perspective, it is. Since masculinity is a discoursive thing, not a biological thing. The issue is that many people use the term from the humanities very carelessly.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 11:07 AM
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Aren’t there literal scientific evidence supporting the pay gap? Why should I believe you over reputable scientists anyway.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 11:06 AM
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You act is if you’re speaking in favor of reason , yet you’re the ones denying things that have been proven in academies across the world. You probably have no knowledge of social sciences and just made up your opinion from watching liberal propaganda. I was an English teacher and was paid more than the lady that taught Spanish, even though her workload was more than mine.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 04:22 AM
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I think the wage gap is real, and the black pill is so too. I’d like to think that no modern honest person can go against something that proved so overwhelmingly by so many different studies. I personally saw in my job how women were paid less than men, while having jobs that were significantly harder. At the same time, we all see women dating this ves few number of men at the same time, while the majority of man aren’t looked at. I think bringing it to a real of personal choice ignored any hone…
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:55 AM
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Regardless of wether it is or not is kind of irrelevant, dating is something that’s perceived from my position as an individual. Would these people say that obese people overinflate how hard it is to lose weight? Or that black people over inflate how hard it is to be black?
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:52 AM
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People throw feminism around way too liberally for my taste.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:50 AM
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I’m an incel, I’d be all for this. Give me a way out so that you normies can work for decades, then grow old and die depressingly.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:50 AM
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It’s part of the risk of getting married. I’d you don’t trust the other person then don’t marry them. You can’t have a marriage without having to face the uncertainty that this person who says they love may be lying.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:48 AM
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People really need to relate to Reddit as what it is, a form of trash entertainment. You’re going to survive getting ban from that subreddit dude. It’s not as if you’re missing out on an extraordinary forum full of enriching discussion. The vast majority of people there are self serving idiots. Don’t worry about it.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:45 AM
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Toxic masculinity is a stupid concept anyway. Like I’d the idea is that manhood as a discoursive construction is inherently oppressive, then saying toxic masculinity is like saying wet water. From a literary standpoint, I would argue those are masculine traits in women, understanding masculinity as this narrative upon which western people based their gender identity. I’m not absolving women, all I’m saying is that people tend to think women by virtue of being women are feministic, and they’re no…
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:42 AM
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You have to be heartless not to support abortion. Whoever is born into this world has a 99% chance of living a life of endless torment.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:38 AM
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They are more attractive than us. We have to face the facts. If you’re a black piller you need to acknowledge that you’re at the bottom of the social ladder. Even if they see them as atm machines, there are still people who make more money than others and still can’t find anyone.
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 03:36 AM
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morality is tied to actuality. possibility does not amount to culpability. as things stand, norms commit the majority of the crime, inches don't. not even by a long shot, not even percentage wise. Evil is part of human spirit, whoever think themselves a good person on the inside is lying to themselves. everyone desires evil, good comes hen you suppress that evil. incels haven't done much when compared to normies. not to excuse ourselves, the mysoginy by various inches is rampant, and the fascist…
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 02:45 AM
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But that’s magical thinking dude. If my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle, but she doesn’t so she isn’t. Incels have the outlook on the world we have because we see romantic relationships from the outside. Like why not say the opposite, take a person who is good and kind and murder their family, torture them, and then you’ll find he becomes bad. Which is obvious. If you change the conditions in which a person lives, they’re going to change. These theories of humans as being born good and being bo…
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 01:24 AM
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I don’t think this is a very useful point to make, because is imposible to prove. If incels this and that. Well incels don’t and that’s reality. If tomorrow society changes and incels start raping women, chopping them into pieces and beating them as normies do every day, then I’d be a fair point to make. But thinking that losers would be just as bad as winners are is wrong, because for you to be a winner you need to be an asshole. It’s been demonstrated through history that the excluded and the …
/r/AllPillDebate14/03/23 01:06 AM
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I tend to think that the illusion that under monogamy, the most attractive weren’t the ones passing their genes is a lie. The patriarchy only sold itself on the modern era, which was the time by which is was starting to disintegrate since patriarchy is incompatible with liberal democracy. Before if you were good looking and weren’t part of the royals then you’d be either killed or worked to ugliness and death anyway. I think there are traces of such social norms in artistic representation. The i…
/r/AllPillDebate06/03/23 04:13 PM
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Oofy doofy law?
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 02:17 PM
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I think there’s a lot of truth in what you say. In previous social conditions, women were forced into being with men they didn’t desire, and now we’re seeing that the actual desire for men is astronomically less than the patriarchy had led us believe. I don’t think however that we’ll reach this summit of eugenics in which the whole of the population will be desirable. Most likely there’ll always be incels since nature is not something that can be engineered on its own. Although we might see more…
/r/AllPillDebate26/02/23 09:45 PM
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This is absolutely true. That’s why the black pill is the only pill. The only way out is suicide.
/r/AllPillDebate26/02/23 09:39 PM
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Well I wouldn’t know really. But I do think that such mindset won’t allow you to see wether you really like the other person or not.
/r/AllPillDebate24/02/23 02:11 PM
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I know who you are, I suppose the other account got banned. And now you’re again on to push your racist agenda. Christ alive, catch a hint and some some souls searching.
/r/AllPillDebate24/02/23 02:10 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly, but I don’t see how that goes against my points to be honest. I guess the implications you’re putting forward are that women are not looking for the top men but are simply not willing to put up with the imbalances that traditional relationships bring, which like, it is true, undeniably true, but I don’t see how it goes against my points. And I think your last point is very disingenuous. Incels aren’t on the rise simply because they refuse to do their fair share, they’re o…
/r/AllPillDebate24/02/23 02:05 PM
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Well I’m a black incel, so I’m super skeptical. In my personal experience most girls want white people, but maybe in America it’s different and like personal experience isn’t really relevant, so again. Fair play.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 11:21 PM
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For play.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 10:02 PM
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I really don’t think I should have more arguments against antisemitism than the entirety of the last century. Even if that we’re true, the fact still remains that it was white people who started and industrialized the slave market. Maybe you have a very American centric view of the matter, but in central and South America, the myths of the bestial nature of black people were propagated by Catholics, and in the states as far as I’m aware, the myths of the supremacy of white men over black men wer…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 08:28 PM
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I don’t have the energy to argue this any further lol. For me the fact that you thinking that white men are disadvantaged in the dating market is incomprehensible, even more so considering that as a white man you can go to third world countries and get kids of attention while black people are overwhelmingly seen as animalistic in the rest of the world. I think just looking at the racial composition of most powerful and rich couples should be evidence enough of the huge advantage white people hav…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 08:23 PM
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I think the fandom of bts disproves your last point. I also think you’re being deceived too much by social media. Look the at partners of the most beautiful women on earth and you’ll see they’re overwhelmingly white. Most rich couples are white, this idea of racial inclusion and desire is only pushed as a placebo for a society that’s highly stacked for white men. After all, the old incel sub was comprised of a vast majority of racial minorities that realize that women tend to only be attracted t…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 03:54 PM
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Have you ever heard the name “Adolf Hitler” ?
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 03:38 PM
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Feminism was born out of the patriarchy, not outside of it. The system you’re proposing was already tried and resulted in feminism. You need to let it go dude, the patriarchy is dying not because someone is killing it but because it’s designed to kill itself. Thinking you can teach men to just deprive women of their income also comes with men losing half of their income since women make about half of the consumer population. Also nature is not a thing, nature is just the name we use to designate…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 02:40 PM
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I think it kind of depends, since in real life, I can vouch for the whitest people not being that attractive really. I think attractiveness isn’t natural but taught. And I think people is taught from a young age to like the markers of the richest and most powerful group of people. Let’s not pretend that whiteness is just this neutral category that just exist, when in reality it is the race of the ones that went outside of Europe, murdered and rape their way into riches, and indoctrinated the loc…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 02:28 PM
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This is not true though. Black men were seen as animals, not as less masculine men. After the liberation black men have been perceived by conservatives not as human but as post-animals, as in these creatures that want to be human but that have a evil prior nature that prevents us from being assimilated into white, human culture. It’s also baffling that you mention Jewishness as being somehow to blame when the slave trade was a white enterprise, both in its practical sense and it’s ideological se…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 02:23 PM
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So unless you’re really ugly, looksmaxxing works? I guess it makes sense, but I’d be willing to bet those girls either see you as a stepping stone to something better or just outright feel like they’re settling. Like in multiple studies and anecdotes it is noted than women overwhelmingly don’t feel attracted to men.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 01:25 PM
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Good luck!
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 07:37 AM
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As humans, we have the capacity to imagine different realities, the fact that we can even imagine a world in which we would have the social and sexual life we want makes reality tough to take. Besides knowing something makes sense doesn’t make it easier to understand, imagine you explained thoroughly the reason for why a person murdered other persons family, do you think that person would say “oh I get it now, it was so silly of me to even feel bad for something so easily explainable!”
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 07:33 AM
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Well, good luck bringing back the patriarchy then.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 07:25 AM
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Yeah. What’s annoying though is the mainstream putting it in moral terms. They lie to themselves thinking they love one another because of their character or their depth, the truth is humans are shallow, based and dumb, and all that leads men and women to be with one another is the perceived attraction. They say it is determined by cultural norms and I partially agree, but like culture isn’t something you can just scape. Like take plus side models and alternative models, they get to model yeah, …
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 07:10 AM
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You’re lying to yourself if you think back then you wouldn’t be in the same position, only with less amenities.
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 06:55 AM
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It’s not “becoming mainstream”, it’s just the truth. It’s always been talked about, people have always known it to be truth because it is. It’s just that lately, as capitalism has gone into crisis . The middle and lower classes are see their income robbed by the powerful to a rate at which they can’t any longer out-earn inflation. The patriarchy deluded all men into making them think that all of them could be Chad. But feminism made us realize that those dreams of “love for everyone” and “sex fo…
/r/AllPillDebate23/02/23 04:59 AM
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My point is more that you can only change what you can imagine changeable. Firstly. Secondly, bitterness and resentment isn’t always bad on itself, it depends on the conditions that led you to ducha. State of mind. Let me put it this way, Peterson tries to naturalize hegemony, that in his arguments is always implied that the forces that supersede humans are unchangeable by anyone and that in turn we can do nothing but change certain aspects about our own lives. Which is wrong, you can change oth…
/r/AllPillDebate17/02/23 11:38 AM
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Jordan Peterson is a huge fraud. got slapped all around by Zizek on their debate. Changing is a process shaped by the horizon of expectations a person can have, and such horizon is set by the interpretation of outer stimuli. You can change your outlook of life but you can't change the events that happened to you over which you didn't have any say. would you tell an illiterate person that it is their choice not to ponder what the Hegelian dynamic of slave-master means for their grasp of reality? …
/r/AllPillDebate16/02/23 05:00 AM
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And people will keep claiming that incelpdom is a white supremacist group.
/r/AllPillDebate16/02/23 04:53 AM
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I was wrong then.
/r/AllPillDebate09/02/23 12:28 AM
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Kinda irrelevant though. He doesn’t need to be empathetic to point at the lack of empathy of others really.
/r/AllPillDebate08/02/23 03:45 PM
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I’m an incel. Hate the idiot. He’s more red pill than black pill.
/r/AllPillDebate04/02/23 12:08 AM
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Most satisfying person to block.
/r/AllPillDebate17/01/23 10:25 AM
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28 i think? I lost count. Might be 29 , not sure.
/r/AllPillDebate17/01/23 10:24 AM
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I don’t meet loads of people outside but the few people I’ve met is through going to a park and playing football with randos, and at work I think it’s nice to talk to the cleaning people and guards. I tend to really like people of the working class because they tend to be funnier than the middle class, and by being funny and being around funny people you eventually get the opportunity to show your personality to others. Outside of work I haven’t got. A clue on how to meet people though.
/r/AllPillDebate10/01/23 10:48 AM
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ir's like talking to a liberal conspiracy aggregator. Whatever, I don't feel like discussing anymore with someone for whom the reality of others is just false. I just think it's stupid. It'd be like me saying "women only feel oppressed but they're actually not so shut up"; like the perception of reality is not a thing that you can twist infinitely, and this idea of }2the elites are doing it to create chaos is such a childish view, like just so so so so childish. You're very rationalistic and in …
/r/AllPillDebate23/12/22 05:57 PM
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1- Why is people so oblivious. Like Am I to overlook every single beauty standard being Eurocentric and elitist for the sake of a few cases in which there is an interracial couple? you make it sound as if the majority of celebrity couples were interracial when that's not the case, they're still an overwhelming minority. Even in the cases a member of a minority is accepted, they can only be accepted as long as they fetishize themselves or erase their ethnicity as much as posible, an obvious examp…
/r/AllPillDebate23/12/22 05:09 AM
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1- I didn’t claim they didn’t have global reach, you originally claimed that they had a massive impact on global politics, which I think is absurd. Globalization for it’s unipolarity still conforms to cultural tradition and material conditions. If American politics had a massive impact then gun ownership for example would be seen more favorably in other countries, or the embargo of Cuba would be more popular. Again you’d have to prove that the trend of Inter race couples are becoming more popula…
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 12:12 PM
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1- yeah. Real life is porn. Smartest american. 2- show me the stats. 3- show me proof. 4- you’re the one making up scenarios in your head in which we get to travel in time, roll back modernity, have porn lives and see people as assets that can be improved to an objetive value, and you have the gall to cal the black pill deluded. It doesn’t matter anyway, 99.9% of red pillers get cucked anyway and can’t even date women who they actually like, they just have to settle for a mediocre life.
/r/AllPillDebate22/12/22 01:21 AM
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I agree that all societies except control, and I believe modern women are in certain ways very privileged, you won’t be able to strip that privilege without violence. If you are able to strip it in a non violent way, the the privilege originally laid on your side. For example, I can’t just decide that a rich person is going to give me their money and that’s that, for that I have to exert violence in order to destroy privilege. Women came to acquire some privileges merely accidentally simply beca…
/r/AllPillDebate21/12/22 04:03 AM
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If you were bottom of the barrel in other times you wouldn’t have a wife, you’d probably just be tortured to death or starved by some bored noble.
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 11:32 PM
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Outright violence is necessary, emotional control and the restriction of a gender are forms of violence, and última they need to be reinforced either through direct or indirect violence. Besides is ludicrous to think that an evangelical Christian could even fathom to have love be controlled socially when loved is supposed to be a gift from God. Saying that we need to force people into loving one another is paganism, since it is tempting God btw. You can read Kierkegaard if you ever feel like it …
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 11:32 PM
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Men still have the supremacy over women, the 80%\20% shows that,. Besides ideolozing a time when hitting women was commonplace and racism was even worse shows that at best you’re being oblivious and at worst you just want to beat women and say the n word. What feminism did cant be undone, feminism simply showed men that women simply didn’t like us enough, and that if it weren’t for violence, they simply wouldn’t give the time of day to 80% of males. Thinking that we can’t go back to a more conse…
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 11:50 AM
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Precisely because most people are commoners they’re going to choose the path of least resistance, that is working as little as they can for as little as they can afford.
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 11:41 AM
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1st: America isn’t the world. 2ndly: I think is too cowardly to try to gaslight people into believing that what’s happening to them is not true because you know better. If your major analysis is reliant on rejecting aspects of other people’s lives then you’re at best solipsistic and at worst an insufferable egocentric knowitall. 3dly: sexualization would be a compelling argument if we were all to just lose our eyes one day. The amount of celebrities which are championed as the ideal males who ar…
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 03:22 AM
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Your argument is kinda bad though. Because you’re assuming that a person who isn’t having sex would be the same if they could have it, which would make them different. Besides sex is not a commodity or a disembodied object people can just posses, sex is a marker of social status an interiorization of societal standards. Your point kinda of dismisses the historical and social causes that make people like certain ideas and behaviors over others to instead argue for an escencialist worldview. In re…
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 03:17 AM
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It doesn’t really matter, you’d have to be stupid to be able not to work and choosing to for a soulless company. It’s such a dumb argument anyway, if you could just have tons of one night stands, lots of girls chasing you, you wouldn’t think of marriage. You’re deluded.
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 02:48 AM
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This is a huge cope. Thinking average and below average men weren’t used as literally chimney cleaners before, you just want to delude yourself into thinking that if you had been born in other time in history you wouldn’t be bottom of the barrel. The biggest scam men fall into nowadays is thinking that the patriarchy means equal privileges for all men. It was under the patriarchy when men were sent to the Middle East to die while rich boys slept with their wives.
/r/AllPillDebate20/12/22 02:43 AM
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Well just uneducated people believe in free speech. A social system relies on interiorizing the ideas of the ruining class, therefore the ideas that defend the current state of things will invariably become more prevalent than those fringe positions, and not only that, the academic system will ensure that such central positions transcend from being opinions to being axioms which determine the path of a society. Therefore for a democracy to work you need to silence some people in power to give vo…
/r/AllPillDebate13/12/22 01:21 AM
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That I don’t know, I’d have to have figures. I only lament that incel spaces were co-opted by right wingers and that genuine discussions about the gap left by patriarchy were silenced by reactonary right wing rethoric
/r/AllPillDebate05/12/22 07:26 PM
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As an incel I can’t defend this. There is a lot of hate thrown at women for things they can’t control while more interesting and nuanced discussions are lost in the turmoil.
/r/AllPillDebate05/12/22 06:28 AM
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I’ll try to explain it again, because ugh I don’t know I’m an incel so I have nothing better to do. If I’m saying people routinely defend discourses that go against their benefit, am I implying I’m not people? When did I say I would get to decide on all issues? You’re so dumb but anyway. There are subjects which are objective, in those the subject of the study is not changed by your predictions on statements on them. For example gravity doesn’t change by you saying it’s 8.7 m/s Those subjects ca…
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 06:02 AM
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And also can’t read.
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 05:48 AM
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You’re hopeless.
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 05:45 AM
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Christ alive. The struggle for new forms of freedom comes with the dismantling of stablished forms of oppression, therefore forms of speech that go against institutionalized oppression are doomed to be less popular. People routinely will defend discourses that go against their interests because those speeches conform the very structure with which they order reality. As Wittgenstein put it “language is the limit to my world” It’s also frankly stupid that you wish to live in a society in which we …
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 05:43 AM
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Authoritarianism is the result of free speech.
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 05:36 AM
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Only idiots defend free speech.
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 05:33 AM
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Wholeheartedly agree. Blue pillers and red pillers Belice in a cookie dough world in which there’s someone for everyone and everyone can pull themselves up by their shoelaces. They’re so delusional.
/r/AllPillDebate24/11/22 05:32 AM
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I’m ashamed of my past of course. Only narcissists and psychos can be proud about their past.
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/22 03:46 AM
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care to cite two of the many studies that show that women draw no validation fro sex ? An orgasm isn't the only source of pleasure. If it is for you though I think it's pretty embarrassing to imply yourself to be a wanker in public to be honest. Orgasms also are determined by factors that are trans-biological. Sex is filled with fetiches, perversions, reversals etc etc. You being happy and reaching orgasm is a cope out because happiness is not a category that's beyond a critical view. You can re…
/r/AllPillDebate09/11/22 02:50 AM
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I wholeheartedly disagree.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/22 07:11 PM
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Absolutely yeah. They think feminism is (doing what I want without having to think too much about anything)
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/22 02:30 PM
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Absolutely yeah. Women think they’re non patriarchal by the sole virtue of being women. And they equate being anti patriarchal by doing what they want without any accountability. Many people think they can be feminists without doing any reading and without thinking critically about themselves as well. So lazy.
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/22 01:44 PM
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I think you’re not identifying that sex is also pleasurable for women. Even beyond the physical pressure people in our society draw from sex validation (I’m not saying this is natural by the way, I think it’s cultural). Just as the patriarchy makes masculinity effective in terms of how many women are attracted to you, femininity is validated in relation to the status of the person they can get attracted to them. I also disagree with your idea that what matters in the end is long term happiness, …
/r/AllPillDebate08/11/22 11:00 AM
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Well a well conducted survey is scientifical, so wether I agree with one or not doesn't change anything. The way I see it is that those surveys show that most women are not attracted to most men, while most men are attracted to the majority of women.
/r/AllPillDebate11/09/22 01:43 PM
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I'd say black pill.
/r/AllPillDebate09/09/22 05:25 PM
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Well I'd encourage you to what left and right entail in ideological terms. Because ethinking that SJW, which are a bunch of idiots invested in personal responsibility and individual actions are completely in line with capitalist ideology.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/22 11:35 PM
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Social justice warriors aren't necessarily leftist. They're most likely trust annoying liberals.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/22 10:16 PM
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Reddit is markedly conservative. Everyone defends millionaires and complain from the position of liberal privilege. You'll have a middle class first world young adult telling you that you have to be ok with the status quo and that is actually good that you're suffering, that the economy is screwed and that the democrats offer no solution to real people's problems other than "figure it out poors kek". That's not left wing ideology.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/22 07:42 AM
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The black pill is the only true pill. Both red and blue pills are massive copes.
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/22 07:36 AM
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I think it's not reasonable to analyze both as isolated form one another. Our personalities are shaped massively by the type of response our social risks recieve. If you took a risk once, and found moderate success, you're most likely to try again, and if that patterns repeats itself, your psyche will adopt that trait as part of your personality. Same with body language, most of use human take on certain gestures performed by people around us, but the reaction they get from those in our environm…
/r/AllPillDebate07/09/22 07:35 AM
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Primarily his position is contradictory. He defends individual choice as the prime mover of one's life, and then he'll decry the individualistic and vain state of society. Like he only likes individual choice when the choices follow his idea of sacrificing your individuality for the sake of capitalism and traditional values. Which of course is a massive contradiction. Also, His analysis of Dostoevsky is superficial and vane, as is all his work. He tries to be a right wing focault in a way, but s…
/r/AllPillDebate05/09/22 03:36 AM
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Feminism brought to light problems that already existed.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 11:12 PM
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Learn to read.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 04:36 PM
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Not really an ad hominem since I'm disputing the idea that feminism started the shift in sentiments towards the men in the lower classes. Ad hominem would be me saying that you invented that idea and believe because you're a red piller. What I said is that historically your claim can be refuted but that most likely you don't care about evidence because you're a red piller. Don't expect you to understand the nuance though.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 04:25 PM
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That's a huge cope. So i guess you must be a red pillers who believes he would have been more appealing before feminism. Pffff. Read a sentimental novel from the 19th century to get your Peterson mentality shattered.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 04:19 PM
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It's a demographics thing. The black pill is the result of a growing disenfranchised and overworked middle class who's increasingly aware that the promises of the patriarchy are only cashed by certain member soft the upper levels of society, and also realize that the orthodox views of masculinity don't quite work for the majority of men.
/r/AllPillDebate04/09/22 04:04 PM
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You're absolutely right btw. Right wingers will claim leftist don't want to debate, but they don't care about listening, just talking over everyone else.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 12:42 AM
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Obviously. Like you're denying citizens the ability to vote IS hateful.
/r/AllPillDebate03/09/22 12:40 AM
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I think that spaces like these use to depress me when I would delay more philosophical readings because discussions here felt intellectual enough. But the fact of the matter is in here you'll often see a lot of ideology regurgitated in defense of a system that only works for a small minority of people. It's good that you're depressed, things are depressing. The world is dying, consumerism is not fixing the social issues it promised it would fifty or sixth years ago. But like I guess it depends o…
/r/AllPillDebate27/08/22 06:06 AM
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This proves nothing. Some individuals are crazy. Like what's the point of this post? (Genuine question)
/r/AllPillDebate24/08/22 03:05 AM
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Right. I rather be in the company if Kierkegaard and Heidegger than that of Dawkins. Besides thinking your personality matters in the dating scene is a major cope from red pillers who'll just get women who don't desire them and have to gym max and cope with not being truly exceptional. This is why I can't take red pillers seriously. They're as deluded as blue pillers, they think that by reading people like Dawkins and drinking whisky they'll overcome bad genes.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:27 PM
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Dawkins? Not having that idiot on my bookshelf thank you.
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 12:23 PM
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This is a genuine question, and If It comes across as insulting I'm sorry. Don't you think that kind of follows patriarchal rule? Isn't a major historical issue that women matter for what they look like and men for who they are? And like i don't know if this can be changed, since I'm a pessimist. Like for example I'm a man of color, and I don't believe it'll be passive for someone of my generation to leave behind the historical scars left by exploitation. I'll give you an example. In black commu…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 03:49 AM
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Well, I think psychology has proven that people tend to love desperately the things that hurt them. I don't think it's unlikely that women deep down "Don't love the things they seem to love". I think it'd be disingenous to claim I don't think that's most likely the case. THing is I don't think love is relevant though. People will love whatever they can love. I mean we Live in an era where people marry animals, household objects, pieces of plastic etc. ANd I'm not condeming that, I think that's f…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 02:31 AM
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Well I don't meant to be antagonistic. I do think that a different social structure can shape wildly our dating reality. https://mondediplo.com/2021/07/07women-socialism We have evidence that suggests that dating culture in communist countries were vastly different to that of our own capitalistic west. I don't mean to say that in our current system women can just find the people you described attractive, but the very idea that for such a huge part of the population, working at a call center is t…
/r/AllPillDebate22/08/22 02:13 AM
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That lifting is only worth it if your genetics already made you hot from the beginning.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 04:33 PM
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that's the black pill whispering in your ear.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 04:22 PM
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I can't say I understood what you said here tbh.
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 04:13 PM
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I don't think birth control is a factor of little importance though. It's birth control what allows us to see sex as a purely recreational activity nowadays. Also I think there is already a police state that heavily contains it. Is no surprise that onle a few months ago, or years idk. We found that in hollywood there was still quite prevalent the practice of fucking your way to the top for young actresses. Also about education, I partially agree. universities are encouraging more and more inclus…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 03:48 PM
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I agree. only to build upon what you said, we have also observeed that ususally women also are attracted to the cannonical standard of masculinity propagated by the patriarchy. I also think that while women have earned the ability to acess resources and education, the system still sees them as social tokens, therefore even if they still earn their own money, they feed the traditionally patriarchal figure of the guy that has a ton of money, part of the petit burgeouise and usually european or whi…
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 03:37 PM
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People have this idea of natural laws as if they were societal laws. Technology is part of nature, culture is part of nature. you can't go faster than light because some intergallactive policeman will give you a ticket, you can't simply because you can't. the laws of nature are absoluet and can't be subverted, therefore anythning that exists IS part of nature. secondly, we as humans have discovered that the cultural contect in which we live massively shape our own biology even. we saw how going …
/r/AllPillDebate21/08/22 03:30 PM
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Wholeheartedly agree. And to add to your post. I think that's behind the rationale that makes people think that if you're not succeeding in dating is because you're not willing to succeed. For example, they'll tell you that if you're not successful it must be because for some reason you don't actually want to date people. Or tell you that something inside you which is vague and mysterious will one day click and suddenly start manifesting partners in your life out of the blue. It's just impossibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 10:23 AM
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No worries. Prioritize your rest friend. :)
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/22 10:05 AM
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This is such a bad take. It presupposes that what people lack to be successful is just to want things had enough. Regurgitated self help crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/22 12:42 AM
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I agree with you going for what you wish over what your husband wishes. Having said that, and to play devil's advocate, it's in those type of cultural products (tv shows, movies, etc) that the patriarchy reproduced itself. I don't think you should be watching them, but i also don't think societal changes should start from men telling women what to do, but rather, offering citizens forms of entertainment that are more fulfilling than tv, and enough free time to do them. Your husband might be lyin…
/r/AllPillDebate19/08/22 12:23 AM
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Women should do whatever they want. Men shouldn't want to control womens' desires
/r/AllPillDebate18/08/22 05:27 PM
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I disagree. Not seeing s woman ever in my life has allowed me an infinite supply of female company.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/22 11:04 PM
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I think I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 09:01 PM
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My middle name is bold. Jimmy bold Achtenberg.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 08:51 PM
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It's up to her on how she feels about it. I wouldn't tell her to try to be with someone who doesn't see her as a secondary thing. But ultimately I would be her dad, not her owner. She should have the final say on wether she's ok with it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 07:20 PM
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You don't understand what being alone is like.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 04:44 PM
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I'm bitter and misanthropic, ugly as fuck and poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/22 03:45 PM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 08:55 PM
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Fair play. Your words hold more weight than mine in this instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:59 PM
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That's the mentality of a bully.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 05:57 PM
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It is weird yeah. You should see it as a clue of how desperate some men are when it comes to finding someone. And it won't be fixed by simply saying "omg stop being so desperate". They don't choose to be desperate .
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 04:30 PM
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I think it is very cruel for you to want to single out others in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 02:45 PM
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I'm not saying it's morally justified. I'm just saying it's not the same. For men its doing it from a position of power. for women tehy do it from a position of insurgence.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 11:16 AM
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Yeah I fully sympathize with that. Ultimately, most people here are people from the working class whose issues usually stem from capitalist scarcity. You're totally right, it does fucking suck. The current economic system promises everyone that if they work they can live well, but benefits from firing as many people as it can and hiring ass little people as they can get away with. And what's even more fucked up is that that trend will just increase as more and more jobs are outsourced to third w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 10:16 PM
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I am really sorry for you. That being said, it surprises me, to be honest, that you come to one of the bitter-est subreddits there are for comfort and reassurance. Again, and I mean it. I'm sorry, it sounds really tough. Hopefully you can get a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:33 PM
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This is very speculative. But i don't think they take it to be an honest compliment for the most part. For some men being called "husband material" only has any value if the person saying it is willing to be with them. If it's a compliment that somehow prevents them from being with the person uttering that compliment then it feels like friendzoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/22 08:31 PM
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Black pilled. No standards.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 11:32 PM
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One of the biggest communal tragedies I know of from my virtual life is seeing how incels got conned into propagating right wing propaganda.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 11:20 PM
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Not really. But i have become more comfortable being alone and less bothered about social interactions since they feel hopeless.
/r/AllPillDebate04/08/22 11:18 PM
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I do think they're hypocritical. However historically, women have faced much harsher conditions when it came to discrimination about their bodies. So although it is obviously a double standard, i do think it's not exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 12:34 PM
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All platitudes are thrown to you because those people don't want to tell you directly (that's sort of like a you problem idk, deal with it)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 12:33 PM
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You love this person (pressumably) what's wrong with gassing up his head too much from time to time?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 12:32 PM
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Probably suite poorly. Resentment is very hard to just ditch. It's moulded me. At the same time though, I'm not a psycho, I know how to be civil and respectful in public, chances are I'd be outwardly civil but non committal..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 12:30 PM
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Let people be. Only intervene if there is a threat of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 12:29 PM
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Try to fight. We'd both get killed but I'd try i think.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 12:27 PM
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I can't talk for other ideologies, but as an 1ncel I'll try to speak on the perspective from black pilled individuals. My understanding is that the way communication works is that you create and empty vessel to which others assign meaning. For example when I say tree, that word itself, those letters bear no resemblance to the thing they designate. Thefore is someone speaks Spanish or Russian, that sum of sounds will evoke nothing. However if you're an English speaker, those words will be associa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:45 AM
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You're totally correct. I should have said positivism. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 03:33 AM
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Not every scientific approach presuposes rigorous methodology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/22 01:18 AM
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Shorts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 10:15 AM
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I wasn't referring to the red pill only. Besides your own assertion tried to be scientific. I'm not saying pills are good science, all I'm saying is that the ethos of all pills is to describe human behaviors. Therefore on their ideal version, they're describing patterns which are predictable and True. I'm not saying they s st the present moment, I'm just referring to the ambition all pills seem to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 09:41 AM
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I don't think life is a game. People get stabbed in the street or get killed in accidents, for me it is quite morbid to see those things divorced from the horror they contain. And that's not s game, since a game I would say requires for participants to follow certain agreed rules in a controlled environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:25 AM
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I think you're seeing these things as completely independent factors put of pride tbh. I think claiming that looks aren't an indicator of socio economic factors invisibilazes centuries of oppression.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:22 AM
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Thinking your looks are no indicator of socio economic status is very naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:19 AM
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I disagree. I think part of pill ideology even though Is charged by tons of ideological tenets and principles, aims st being scientific. That I'd to accurately describe social behavior. Just as a star doesn't need to know about gravity to follow it's rules, similarly people don't need to know pill ideology to have their behavior follow prescribed patterns. I think a big problem with pill ideology on its current form however is that it is stuck between wanting to stablish itself as legal norms, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:13 AM
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The black pill is the only way out.
/r/AllPillDebate30/07/22 01:06 AM
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Cause people are naive and willing to waste their money on con artists.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/22 01:01 AM
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Painting.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:48 AM
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Poor guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:27 AM
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Why are you so hung up on beauty being an objective category. I never claimed it was so. I said it was intersubjective. Also intersubjectivity perfectly explains how we take individual experience and try to make it transcend to the sphere of public communal thought. Yes we all have a different form of experiencing the institutions and objects that form our idea of the beautiful, but those things have built in themselves a range of interpretation. If you see someone being portrayed as a beacon of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 02:11 AM
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we can't
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:06 AM
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Get a nice house by the beach. buy a bunch of books. buy an apartment to live off of the rent get nice clothes. Live like a happy hermit for about twnety years. then buy a gun and end my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 01:05 AM
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This is so confusing. lol Like ive read it twice now and it makes no sense to me. Maybe it has a great deal of sense but it really is incomprehensible for me. how can you compare it to color and call it subjective when we literally can communicate eye conditions which helps us determine how we percieve color? how can the understanding of beauty be unique to every person when beauty standards are influenced by things outside of us by your own admision... its just so confuising. my struggle is a r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/22 12:32 AM
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You know what? Fair play. I'm just to bitter and isolated to understand that. But like you have had experience in that front do I'll have to trust you since I can only analyze social interactions from the outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 10:27 PM
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Because it labels the statement as factual when not enough evidence has been provided to declare it as such. Nor has it been conceded that the statement had been factual. Natural laws are not socialogical laws. Natural laws can't be subverted. Social laws can. See previous clarification .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:24 PM
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Aesthetics are socially established. What you mean is appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:16 PM
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Ok
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 04:15 PM
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Thank you .
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:13 PM
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Our eyes are society's eyes. There's no such thing as a genuine impartial assessment. Everything contains historical and social biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:13 PM
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I can't with this liberal stuff. You all think systemic issues can be resolved by individual action. You just think people can get it out of their minds that they're being oppressed regardless of the institutions put in place that enforce them. I guess if we just stop thinking that the beauty standards imposed overtime are real, all the literature that is available, all advertisements and all the records of people benefitting from those standards will just disappear. I think that's too idealisti…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 02:11 PM
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What? What's wrong?. Genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:22 PM
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Passing an opinion on the world as a description of it inherently presupposes an imposition. You're equating his personal opinion as a feasible retelling of natural laws, which implies that any action that goes against those laws is not only futile but stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:20 PM
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My dad is six feet underground. Yeah I'll email my English teachers later today to apologize. If I were to conceed that beauty is subjetcive I'd be invisbilizing the struggle people go through in trying to match socially imposed standards of beauty. Also rape victims and transgender people. Beauty is a category which is imposed across all spheres of society by certain groups which try to impose an eurocentric and mysoginistic aesthetic proposition. You're either AT BEST gaslighting people who st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 12:18 PM
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People is so hyperbolic. You start of with a sensible claim and then your conclusion is wild. Do you really believe how you look and your dating success has no bearing at all in your character? Besides feelings don't always show the truth. Just because you saw the guy making his girl cry you shouldn't be drawn to the conclusion that it'd be unthinkable to have similar situations played out differently. There's s saying from Buddhism that says "we cry for the call of birds but not for the blood o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:29 AM
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Well as I understand it from what I've read about it. Sexuality is inherently fluid and perverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:21 AM
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Well for starters, caring for others is possible. There are a huge number of people who's individual agency can have a massive impact in society. The role of teachers some to mind. Making it pleasant for ourselves might be morally bankrupt. More often than not is. Believing human purpose must align with happiness is giving rapists and murderers a pass. Should we also think "well, whatever he/she says to the police won't matter since they're s nobody, just rape them/steal from them/ murder them..…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 11:19 AM
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And a favorite phrase of conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:44 AM
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Honest question, can you ever know beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're not gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:42 AM
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God this is so solipsistic. No I'm sure they haven't. No incel has ever interacted with women, and whenever they did all their problems were resolved and their worldview changed dramatically.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:40 AM
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You should look up the meaning of "intersubjective" , take a deep breath and go outside. Also I find it hilarious that you make out an imaginary opponent and then your way of beating them is to bully them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:38 AM
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Yes, people want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:36 AM
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I think putting all the blame on corruption leaves out the inherent inequality built into those systems which works regardless of how morally pure people can be. You can be the most ethical real state agent in the world's but you can't overcome the fact that black people have on average less money for housing than white people. And there's no corruption there, just historically manufactured imbalances.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:35 AM
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Chadness is inherently tied to upper class aesthetics.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:29 AM
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That's some neoliberal propaganda right there. Pretty much paraphrasing Margaret thatcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:28 AM
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Indoctrination is inescapable. Believing yourself to be freed from doctrine is s form of doctrine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:27 AM
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It'd be naive to think struggling people will have the mental clarity to put forward their thoughts in a rational way. People are primarily emotional beings, therefore their complaints and activism at large will firstly take on an emotional form before taking on an intellectual one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:19 AM
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I like to believe those post are made by young sad people who need some compassion go their way. A lot of people live sad and lonely lives, and I don't necessarily blame them for desperately trying to find someone to empathize with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:15 AM
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Periods. I wouldn't want to live. I mean I currently don't lol. But like periods should grant them paid leave. Having to function while in pain and high on a cocktail of emotions is criminal. They should get that time off.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:05 AM
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This is just stating the obvious. Do you think people should just stop feeling feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 09:00 AM
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I can't take them seriously when they claim that looks aren't that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:56 AM
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I think the men who claim to have said preferences tend to be a part of very ondular social groups. I think we men in general overall tend to be less social. Another factor is growth. While you were in highschool chances are the priorities weren't those pushed by middle age lonely people, but of horny teenagers. I'd argue people in highschool and college don't dp what they desire but rather what they think they should desire, so even if you appealed to them, they would feel socially pressured in…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/22 08:55 AM
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Very sweet of you to think voting makes any difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/22 12:29 AM
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The military only serve the interests of the ultra rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/22 11:29 AM
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:)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 07:35 PM
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What are you on about? My comment referenced your statement that men naturally care about n counts. And that it was unnatural of society to shame men for it. Natural laws are not like social laws, individuals and groups can transgress social laws, but one can't transgress a natural law. Nature's laws are limits. Therefore, is within human nature to both care about n counts and shame ourselves for it. Making your distinction between behavior which follows natural law and behavior that doesn't irr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 04:18 PM
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Human nature is whatever which is done by humans. therefore your claim of people being able to go againts their nature is part of their nature. Hence there's no such thing as human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 03:13 PM
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Fisrst of all. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Secondly. Before I reply I'd like to apologize if I ever come across as a prick or an asshole, it's not my intention, it just so happens that I'm a very bitter and resentful person with deficiente social abilities. This is the abstroct from the first paper you mentioned : Abstract Adults are sensitive to the physical differences that define ethnic groups. However, the age at which we become sensitive to ethnic differences is currently unclea…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 02:40 PM
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I mean don't we all? I would feel hurt if the girl I was dating looked a lot to other people who were different from me. I'd make me feel as though she settled for me but doesn't truly want me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:26 PM
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Piss.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:20 PM
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Number 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:20 PM
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An 8/10. I'm an antinatalist and if a woman who wanted to be with me was open to having kids I wouldn't want to be with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:08 PM
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There's no such thing as male nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:06 PM
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Ridiculous. The only solution is to legalize suicide. Your solution demands book burning mad ruthless repression.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:04 PM
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I don't agree with you. Beauty standards are forged through depiction of desire in art. One example from the reinssance was that indigenous women would be described in travel logs as sensual innocent angles being kept away from explorers by monstruos indigenous men. Then when the colonization era came about, the depiction of indigenous and black people changed and therefore attitudes towards sex with them became more negative. Nowadays, the current global standard of beauty follows a trend stabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 01:03 PM
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Think for yourself dude. Stop longing for a mythical day when the crowd will curse after you've made such a bland statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:55 PM
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Because it's inevitable to do otherwise. You can't push for other people's agendas.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:54 PM
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Cotton
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:53 PM
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My dream is that one day people will wake up and stop going to the theater to watch the 700th rendition of Thor.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:51 PM
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If I loved her then yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:48 PM
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I can't see a way in which sex as a right works. Firstly, if you have health issues due to being alone and not getting sex, the government should help with funding cultural programs that allow you to meet other people and of course fully offering healthcare. I'm not saying sex could never be a right, i just don't see how it'd be implemented. Would the government hire escorts to sleep with people who aren't having sex? I cringe at the idea that people would feel ok with having sex in which there'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/22 12:34 PM
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Surely you can see how you're the least believable person to ask if we were to determine if you were an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:45 PM
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incredibly Based.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 05:29 PM
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I agree with personality not being so black and white. wholeheartedly. and I also agree with people saying that if they're not interested in cultivating themselves they shouldn't criticize others. I disagree on the extent to which people are responsible for themselves. we all have an expectations horizon, meaning we can only strive for goals which are comprehensible to our selves. So if you didn't know what versology was during highschool you couldn't have strived to study that in college. ergo,…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/22 12:22 AM
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I agree with you on the fact that we have shitty personalities. Hell I certainly do. Bit then again your original point was that we are fundamentally unattractive precisely because of our lack of empathy and shitty personality, which seems absurd to my eyes if you take five minutes looking at reality. The overwhelming majority of people in s relationship ends up manipulating, gaslighting and sometimes raping their partners. That's people who despite their awful personalities are considered attra…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 11:29 AM
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To my awfully confused an deficient intellect you sound like you'd enjoy Derrida.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:56 AM
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That's Disney's logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:55 AM
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We do all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:54 AM
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This type of answer sounds like a just world platitude but it's riddled with tons of problematic implications. It implies we've reached the end of history, and that current society is at a level at which any failure to be accepted into social life is the fault of the individual. Should we say the same about gay people? Are they seem as undesirable because they can't cope with having awful personalities? (Obviously not, and I want to make it clear,. People is liked on relation to how closely they…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/22 04:54 AM
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I'm not from the us either. But from my point of view, the world seems to be going on a trend to veer towards the right since the fall of the Soviet union. Many victories of the left seem to be regressing, even in the UK they're talking about privatizing healthcare, the rise of far right groups and loss of many union protection policies around the world. I'm ugly, bitter and resentful. i was diagnosed with schizoid personality disorder, and I've been struggling with depression since eight grade.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/22 01:04 PM
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Well I'm not knowledgeable enough to comment on that. In my personal experience, having passed through a literature faculty and being very much left leaning has had no impact in my dating life, but of course that's only an anecdotal experience and it should be discarded as such. I do feel as though the world is so far right, than even some people that claim to be on the left champion the ideals that fifty years ago were on the right (and example being Bernie Sanders and Biden ) Yeah, feminism is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 06:59 PM
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I didn't mean to imply that feminists actively re-signified the word, but rather that the right infiltrated incels subreddits and offered a version of trickle down economics to their social lives. I think the association of inceldom with such hateful rhetorics and ideologies is a consecuqence of the right trying to manipulate incels into pushing for agendas that went against our interests. I didn't mean to imply that feminists need to integrate all actors that enforce mysoginistic ideas, after a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 04:18 PM
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I think that's fair tbh. Although having been on the sub before it got shut down, I'm willing to pose that there was also s lot of discussions that hinted towards a legitimate critique of class struggle and sexual discrimination. I also do disagree with your declaration that the term incels has been resignified effectively. Even though I am aware of processes of re-signification, the term incels was coined to denominate a group of disenfranchised men who couldn't date. Maybe the rhetoric came to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 02:00 PM
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I find it cruel for people who are well adjusted socially will tell marginalized individuals that they shouldn't even complain about not being what they desire to be. Now I do think that you wouldn't be mad if they complained at life at large instead of about women's preferences, but i think it's unrealistic to expect people to be rational when it comes to emotional expressions. Incels are most of the times poor, have bad health, have no social life, and yet people find it egregious that they'll…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 01:02 PM
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I think personality is determined by looks so 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:50 AM
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Undoubtedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/22 12:48 AM
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Well, I just don't see why other people get to determine when is your time to go. Like even if they're not ugly beyond hope but they believe to be so, it makes no difference I think if their incentive to keep on living is nil. Also on mental health, as far as I'm aware, the only type of therapy that works against one's will is psychotherapy, and it is still debated to be effective at all. And like, maybe if we had the chance to end our lives more easily we'd have to find true passion and purpose…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/22 04:36 AM
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Depending on your ethnicity or income, they've already succeeded.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 10:34 PM
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You already lack those.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 07:24 PM
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Incredibily based post. <3
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:12 PM
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That's a false equivalence my dude. Those positions have different relations to power spheres. reducing it to a matter of "imposing your beliefs onto me" is a poor take. Social life is all about imposing your views onto others. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 05:05 PM
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I'd like to see people uniting around a few policies. 1- assisted suicide needs to be legalized so that if you're ugly beyond hope you can have a dignified way out. I don't think personality matters at all, so if you feel like it's hopeless, you should have the means to end it humanely. 2- more governmental backing for cultural events. Many people nowadays live isolated lives, deriving all their social fulfillment from their jobs, which we've seen are a very awful place in which to meet people. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/22 04:43 PM
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In academia, if I'm not mistaken, they see patriarchal biases as an obstacle to reach meaningful conclusions. So at the very least, academics care because it prevents them from getting closer to truth. In society I would argue that women have been denied interiority, since the focus was always on their appearance. So when women started to be taught how to read and we're permitted to read freely, they realize they had been prevented from developing a rich inner life in order to preserve the statu…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:46 PM
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I don't sant to debate you then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/22 02:18 PM
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I'd you're in your thirties and haven't found any success, you might have to start considering suicide if you can muster the courage. If you're 25 and nothing has happened, you need to face that you'll never find love lost likely. If you're 20-25, you need to start trying very hard to go on dates, meet people in real life, go to social events, try online dating. Just play the numbers game. If you're under 20 you're fine, focus on improving your appearance and becoming intuitive of other people's…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:56 PM
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This is all of course a personal opinion so it shouldn't count for anything other than as a sample to determine a pattern. Having said that: 100 300 No, never Not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:18 PM
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Least authoritarian Argentinian.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 03:24 AM
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Personal experiences aren't indicative or larger patterns. Just because 1% of men don't see their lives impacted by average dating patterns we shouldn't assume then that the overarching rule has been broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 02:39 AM
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America is fucked sadly, they're too conservative, but in some European countries and here in Latin America is a possibility. And again, I don't think it's possible in the states, but some countries are already considering to reduce the world week to four days a week, also in some countries here in Latin American cultural programs are expected to be further subsidized and expanded. In here we also have mental health covered by some health providers, it's not enough of course but it's not as bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/22 01:06 AM
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Maybe it wouldn't be, that's why I'd be in favor of sanctioned suicide. However, current society has stripped all of us of free time, most people work two jobs for starters, can't afford a palace of their own and have no access nor time for cultural activities. Maybe if society saw lonely men as a symptom of a social stricter that is increasingly allienating for everyone then they'd work towards fostering social spaces in which people could interact. Also if society didn't see lonely people as c…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 10:34 PM
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Maybe a better solution for literally everyone would be to reduce working hours in order for everyone to have more free time in which to clean and stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:54 PM
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Dating is not a market though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:46 PM
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That's so harsh. Sometimes explanations can be helpful. Surely not everyone that listens to erlkronig gets it the first time. Right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:42 PM
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So you're not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:40 PM
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Doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:37 PM
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6?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:32 PM
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Drive and passion are too vague to represent any robust platform from which to determine attraction I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:30 PM
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I don't think they become famous because of neither their musical talent nor the integrity of their character.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:27 PM
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I'm not watching that idiot long enough for me to look up an example. His points are all terrible on their own. His interpretation of Dostoievsky is all over the place. He's just a bad scholar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:26 PM
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Depends on whether either is financially stable and emotionally independent.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:22 PM
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based af
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:18 PM
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I'ts called neoliberalism, and it's a cancer my dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:17 PM
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Women were allowed into the workforce not because they were seen as valuable individuals by society, but simply because corporate exploitation saw an opportunity. Women earn less on average for the same work, they have to spend more on health and hygiene related products without any government assistance, job culture pretty much denies them time to suffer their periods on their own. And on your example, maybe she's realizing that entering the workforce without enough of a social net, and with th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:16 PM
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That's a very American delusion to have.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:09 PM
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Such a bizarre practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:08 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree. Women historically had their subjectivity overlooked because it was imposed on them to be valuable only as social tokens.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:07 PM
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Well, in discourse analysis in uni we found that due to societal repression of women, the language that each gender use to communicate their interiority was different. It happens something similar to racial groups in different countries. Basically, white men in the west have a tradition that validates their worldview going as far back as ancient greeks, women and people of color however can't appeal to the same discursive traditions, so they either have to qualify their experience as similar but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 09:04 PM
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Well, the job and housing crises point to an increasing index of “bottom feeders” being produced by our current neoliberal system. Claiming most people are doing ok, while at the same time seeing people having to live in tents, or young people being priced out of having a home, is just delusional. Not to mention patriarchal degradation and an isolated middle and bottom classes. If you don't see the need to address the problem of incels, of poverty and of social isolation then you must have a ver…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 08:52 PM
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You're confusing leftists with liberals. In the left one of the major criticism of capitalism is the alienation of individuals, the death of regional practices due to globalization and the death of humanity, that is the extermination of traits which cannot be exploited for economic purposes.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:08 PM
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The problem is what those societal actions would be. I think if be better to have a positive approach towards giving men more options of being happy than they have under the patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 04:00 PM
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If anything, the onus is on women to exercise wise decision making in mate selection instead of getting sidetracked by ideology. This means having a realistic sense of self-worth instead of having their egos inflated to an unrealistic level. It means breaking apart from the conditioning that they've been barraged with since birth that says that they are entitled to the best men. It means understanding that who they find attractive is largely influenced by society and not some immutable quality t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/22 02:23 AM
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Well, I meant to imply that the role of a man doesn't coincide with material men, they're more of s discourse. Like no one is like Odysseus, but his mythos shaped our idea of masculinity. Well the idea of women as companions is not so prevalent in our culture as far as I remember, I think Catullus is the earliest poet I can think of who speaks of romantic love, the. There's also like Garcilaso, but the ruling mythos of masculinity was for men to see women as tokens, not companions. After the rom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/22 08:29 AM
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Well, black pill science always tend to show that physical attraction is that defining factor in dating, but that is greatly impacted by levels of stress and nutrition. With such high cost of living, not many people can afford good quality food, beauty care products, sleeping well, and enough rest. Usually the people who are at the top of the dating market tend to have benefited greatly from a sheltered upbringing or a social position that guarantees them improved access to food and amenities. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:43 PM
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Very compelling.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 12:10 PM
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I agree that women are unaware, but I think it's an issue that requires confronting the system that allows that obliviousness. The patriarchy has always dictated that women are tokens of social success and not much more z in turn you see in all forms of art this pervasive idea that certain men are entitled the access to women while other men aren't. I am a feminist, and I think the extent to which this idea has permeated female psychology is underplayed in order to brush over the fact that despi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:44 AM
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I don't think personal experience should determine such a global category. Attractiveness is cultural, therefore if a person fits that cultural image they are bound to be attractive to a bigger percentage of the population. just because they're not attractive for you could we consider then that their attractiveness is somehow compromised.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:25 AM
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He's not an interesting person though. his ideas are dull.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:22 AM
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Life does suck.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:16 AM
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Therapy is a neoliberal tool to avoid systemic issues. whenever people see a flaw in our society, it'll be cheaper to reprogram the individuals affected by such flaw into conformity. Reddit being such a conservative space, heightened by how individualistic and conservative american culture is, will always point to allienating and hiding individuals who might prove their social system has any flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:15 AM
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FIrst off, I'm playing devil's advocate because I don't really belive it was a coup. however, I thing there are some things worth considering. the paralal with Floyd's protests are quite useful, in the sense that they whowed how rapildy the police will mobilize to protect the interests of the ruiling class, that is their private property. We have seen time and time again how justice in america only cares to penalize those who are in a disadvantaged position as well. wouldn't that lead us to beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 05:12 AM
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Factos.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/22 04:51 AM
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X
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 06:54 PM
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I think it does though. The divorce rates tend to be higher in the rest of latina merca than it is in Cuba for example. I also don't believe that you can create "attraction value" artificially it's just this propaganda of "you can be anything you like as long as you pay taxes and promote consumerism" Like hell we've even seen how one important factors of women selecting a partner is their ability to amass capital. I'd say that in itself is quite telling
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 11:00 PM
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I believe it has yeah. Capitalist propaganda pervades every level of the social structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 10:54 PM
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There are solutions though. First, sanctioned suicide so that people can see a way out of a system which only profits from them but what it offers in return it can't guarantee. The narrative of a happy family life for black pillers. Secondly, reduce income inequality so that the dating market isn't as heavily impacted by level of income. Thirdly. Dign distribution of resources so that people with genetic disadvantages can have nutritious meals and not lack important nutrients during their develo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 03:45 PM
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So, if you claim he is only that way because he lacks something he wants, what should he do then? Get something he doesn't want?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:36 PM
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If you say height turn you on after having said that you were meh about your current partner being 6ft, you're lying since both are non compatible. Are you turned on by height or not? If yes, why didn't it happen with your current partner? If not, why do you have height as a necessity for sexual attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/21 01:20 PM
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Spitting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/21 06:03 PM
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You were very succinct and illuminating. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 12:55 PM
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I think you´re assuming that willingness to fuck anything implies lack of genuine attraction, and I disagree with that. just becaus men want to have sex with almost any women doesn´t diminish the fact that they find most women attractive, which i don´t find morally repulsive as you suggest. i´d say most women are kind, cute and attractive. Should I start lying to myself on what I consider attractive to got respect from you? what does that respect even give me?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 05:29 AM
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wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:42 AM
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Sanctioned suicide would be good
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:29 AM
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Insensible prick.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 07:27 PM
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So why were you arguing againts that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/21 02:52 AM
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Not really. They're still the ones deciding on who to pick. Your point implies that after forty you only matter if you're wealthy. But still, is them doing the picking.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:35 PM
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And??? I am black but this white people using race In a supposedly "affirmative way" in my opinion is atrocious. I have known all my life what it feels to be judged by things you can't control. Like... And for you is a laughing matter... It truly horrifies me holy shit...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 06:23 PM
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Jesus christ... That's so racists and horrendously presumptuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 04:10 PM
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Your last sentence kinda proves that women have the upper hand though, doesn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 04:08 PM
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Literally telling others how they feel about hypotheticals...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/21 03:58 PM
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