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DISCUSSIONFalkner1992/r/RedPillWomen09/12/16 09:54 PM
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You fuckers wish you had had a teacher that let you do this to her. Stop fucking pretending.
/r/MGTOW27/02/17 01:14 PM
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I'm just tired of seeing this bs over and over again. Every time I come here, I run into one of these bs threads of some random chick going "Oh, I'm dating a 300lbs neckbeard who does nothing but play WoW all day and I couldn't be happier!". We both you're talking shit, stop fucking grandstanding, you arrogant bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 04:43 PM
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She's full of shit. I have nothing more to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:47 PM
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Doesn't matter. Even Omega females don't want Omega males.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:40 PM
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i've had morbidly obese inactive omega boyfriends who lived at home and survived on butter rice and video games. You're full of shit. There, I said it. You're lying through your fucking teeth. What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/17 03:32 PM
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You don't want commitment though, you want status.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 10:43 PM
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Men don't understand that women don't feel validated by being pumped and dumped by a Chad. She knows she's not desired in that situation. I understand that women derive no pleasure or validation from sex. Heck, that's what I've been saying for years. But you just wrote here is an oxymoron; if women are being "pumped and dumped" then they're at least desired for sex if nothing else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/17 01:29 AM
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Incels are whining because they can't get laid, women are whining because they can only get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/17 12:19 AM
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You put a girl next to a man she's sexually attracted to, and she'll have sex even if she's not going to get a relationship out of it. Don't buy it. Yeah, you see a lot girls saying yeah, they totally love casual sex and do it all the time, but those are usually the ones who under the same breathe complain about how we're all immature man-children who only care about "fucking bitches". It's an attempt for them to save face, and not even a very good one. And dude, if you think the notion that wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 09:26 PM
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is actually not a lie, and most certainly not something society tells us.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 07:28 PM
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Let me put it this way: if a man is only capable of seeing one path forward, then maybe he does belong alone. What if it's not just his perception, what if all other paths really are closed to him? if a man is only capable of seeing one path forward, then maybe he does belong alone. What people "deserve" matters very little. You sound like a complete, yet by simple virtue of having been born with a vagina, you won't die alone unless you so desire it. Even though you probably deserve that and mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:44 AM
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Nice way of trying to weasel out of answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/17 03:31 AM
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If the only path available to you is forward, is it correct to say you've chosen to go forward?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 10:20 PM
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They didn't "go to their own way", they were forced to go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 03:12 PM
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That's because you actually choose that lifestyle, MGTOWs are forced into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/17 12:32 AM
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And that is that men desperately want to believe such a thing actually exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:24 PM
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Only the ones who knew I wanted them for a ONS stuck around. Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 01:00 PM
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The thing is men are forced to be the pursuers. Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:24 PM
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You're assuming that older women would want younger men. Yeah, you really should have started there.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/17 12:11 PM
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No. For me to "begin discrediting them", I would have had to have credited them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 06:56 PM
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Even if you do, you won't be able to maintain them for long. There's just something about men that prevents us from bonding with each other the same way women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:05 AM
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Get a SO. That's literally the only solution.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 02:01 AM
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Pretty much this, yeah. Men start losing touch with their social circle at around age 30, and that's assuming they had one to begin with. After that, either they get "adopted" into their SO's or they're screwed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/17 01:40 AM
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Since when? And why would some women write no hookups in their bio unless it is otherwise implicitly implied that she's only looking for hookups? Because they know there are men who are trolling the website looking for casual sex and, because they're women, they're not interested. Doesn't mean it's what the website was designed to be. It's an app to meet potential partners, but that doesn't mean that it's a proper regular dating app. "Men have more fetishes than women, but that doesn't mean they…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 08:24 PM
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Is it really though? When was the last time you heard about a (real) FA woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 06:31 PM
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Actually no, what I did was point out WHY that's a bullshit excuse for an argument. Now away with you, pleb.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 06:18 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0MK7qz13bU&list=RDL0MK7qz13bU
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 06:14 PM
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I don't know about social stigma (and frankly, I don't care), but loneliness definitely impacts men much more severely than it does women, if only because truly lonely women are practically non-existent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:58 PM
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So no actual arguments besides senseless fear-mongering then? Should I take that as a concession?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:47 PM
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It's not fear mongering, do you even look at all the news reports on date rapes, partner assaults, domestic violence? This something serious that women are legit afraid of. I look at the statistics that say rape has been in a steep decline for God knows how many years now. Again, that whole rape hysteria nonsense isn't gonna cut it here. Come up with an actual argument or concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:35 PM
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Fear-mongering is not a valid argument either. Especially when said fear is completely unfounded. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 05:32 PM
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Very, and I mean VERY, few men are "getting all the sex they want", but that's always been a given. Almost every man who has ever lived throughout history was undersexed on some level. The problems only start when men stop getting the sex they NEED to keep chugging along.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:53 PM
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No, I'm not. The whole subject matter of this discussion was whether or not women were interested in casual sex, I said no and pointed out how all the signs seemed to indicate that they don't. You said yes, but that I just couldn't see it because "women are different, man..." Yeah, that's not an actual argument. So kindly come up with an actual counterpoint or concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:38 PM
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... most women don't want sex... Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:26 PM
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Also most women who want to cheat don't have problems finding people who want to have casual sex with them in real life IKR? Like, you'd almost think the demand for female consent is way higher than the supply.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:19 PM
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No, that's just what a lot of men try to use for it, but not what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be a proper dating website.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:15 PM
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There are women cheating too but they also don't go on Ashley Madison. Right, because women who cheat don't do it for casual sex and that's AM is purported to offer, because women don't like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:13 PM
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There are many people who want casual sex but won't cheat with a married person because it's against their standards of behavior. Ah, so the only reason women weren't signing up in droves for Ashley Madison is because they're virtuous paragons of morality and men are swines? Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 04:03 PM
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That's desperate people. People who look for X go wherever they think X is. I don't see what it is that you don't understand about this. Non-desperate people have standards and ethics like not sleeping with married people. Let me know when you're done grandstanding so we can have an actual discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 03:48 PM
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Neither is Ashley Madison. Yes, it is. The majority of ppl looking for casual sex don't want to go to a site where 99% of the people are married. Ppl looking for casual sex go wherever they think casual sex is on offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 03:29 PM
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But it's not a site designed for people looking for casual sex. What part of that don't you get?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 03:21 PM
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It's a site for hookups and casual sex where anyone could sign up for, regardless of marital status. Meaning anyone interested in casual sex had a a valid reason to sign up for it. Again, Tinder, POF or OKC would be better measures. Those are not casual sex sites. I mean, yeah, there are a lot of guys there trolling for pussy, but that's not what the site's ostensibly for.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 03:08 PM
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A lot of women would not sign up for a site that basically guarantees you'd be sleeping with a dude Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 02:44 PM
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Ashley Madison wasn't a site for people looking for "casual sex," Yes, it was. Anyone could sign up for that website regardless of marital status. The whole "life's short, have an affair" gimmick was just that: a gimmick.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 02:09 PM
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I'll give an example using relatively equal numbers. Say 60% of men want casual sex and 40% marriage. The reverse is true for women. You're being way too generous here. If Ashley Madison is anything to go by, it's more like 0.05 women who are interested in casual sex per 100 men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 11:52 AM
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Do you believe the female orgasm exists? I know the large majority of women can't orgasm. I also know the ability to orgasm has nothing to do with sex drive. So much for your major in biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 08:47 AM
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Please explain it to me. This should be good. No, I've done it too many times already, I'm tired. And really, what would it matter? You'd still keep pretending to enjoy sex as long it remains convenient for you to do so, and I still wouldn't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 03:30 AM
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Yawn, I've had this discussion more times than I care to remember. I'm not going to have it, if you know about anything, you know why it would make sense from an evolutionary perspective for women to have evolved into frigid creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 03:06 AM
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Careful, you're acting overly defensive. People might think you have something to hide.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 02:54 AM
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Wow. I'm a female who figured out masturbation when I was 9 and haven't missed a day since. But today I learned I'm asexual... makes sense. Talk, talk, talk. All talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 02:53 AM
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Those are your words, not mine. By in large, women will not have sex unless they have an ulterior motive. Said motive doesn't necessarily need to be nefarious, but there needs to be one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 12:59 AM
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Oh, they'll let you fuck them. You just have to give them something in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 12:37 AM
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Females are asexual. Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 12:31 AM
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Yes, that is in essence the reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/17 12:06 AM
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Because they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 11:57 PM
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You want a relationship with a high status men? Fine. Looks-permitting, you can have it but you still have to put out to keep him interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 04:39 AM
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Or, OR the discomfort is from either having had this kind of sex or having no desire to We all have our burdens. This is the one you must carry in order to attract a high-status man.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 03:46 AM
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Definitely the latter. A woman who'll love you during your downs will also love you during your ups. The opposite isn't necessarily true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/17 02:06 AM
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Don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 09:29 PM
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Then you be the pursuer. As a woman, you have an almost 100% chance of success if you decide to take an active approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 09:14 PM
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Yup, literally never heard that one before, hu-huh...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/17 01:14 PM
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What about LewisCross? He's a man too, or does he just get a pass because his posts didn't hurt your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 05:57 PM
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Sure they are. Less less talky, more do-ey, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 04:50 PM
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Most of my friend CLAIM TO HAVE actively pursued their now bfs and husbands. Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 04:38 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and guess INTs are grossly over-represented in the incel community.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/17 02:34 PM
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I don't hate sluts, but then again true sluts are few and far between. Now, women who use sex to try and lure top men into a relationship, those are a dime a dozen... and in my opinion, worthy of the ridicule and shaming they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/17 09:38 PM
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I've said this before and I'll say it again; less talky, more do-ey, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 06:41 PM
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You knew about urban dictionary back then? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spaz As for being mad... lol, no. I just like taking the piss out of posers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:19 PM
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Well, let's see... on one side, I got the word of experts who've worked in the industry for years and have pretty much "seen it all". On the other, I have some random spaz on Reddit trying to act like he's hot shit. Tough call... who should I believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 02:01 PM
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Ok, first of all, I think you're on the wrong board. r/TheRedPill is thataway. Second of all; I propose that the envelope will go as far as men push it. This is ridiculous. In the sexual marketplace, women have all the power, and women are far, far more sexually conservative and prudish than men are. The simple fact is the large majority of men are in no position to "push the envelope" beyond what women are comfortable with, which sadly isn't a whole lot.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:58 PM
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I don't "believe" anything, I KNOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:49 PM
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Yeah, right. You got former male escorts with supermodel-level looks who worked in the sex industry saying you can't sell sex to women no matter what, but sure, I'll take the word of some anonymous random shmuck on r/PurplePillDebate over theirs. Uh-huh.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:47 PM
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I refer you to my first post on this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:31 PM
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What, did your momma offer to pay for your plane ticket so you could go back home for the holidays? Not exactly the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 01:11 PM
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Yeah, no, Johnny Bravo, sorry. Women actually paying live cash for sex? Not happening. And that's not me saying it, it's people who actually work in the sex industry who are saying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 12:32 PM
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I'm currently fucking around with a girl who pays 60$ every week just to uber me to her place because everyday she goes home to an empty apartment to lay in her bed alone. She has no pets or roommates r/thathappened Again, honestly surprised I'm the first one to post this.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 11:41 AM
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"Roses" is a code word for dollars escorts sometimes use on their ads.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 09:21 PM
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Not a big anime fan, but I had crushes on Integra from Hellsing and Fiore from Chrono Crusade when I was younger. The latter might seem a bit odd considering how minor her role in the show was, but what can I say? I like overprotective motherly/caretaker types who'll bite the head off of anyone who looks at their ward wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 06:31 PM
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Chris Keller. And he was gay in that one as I recall.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/17 10:33 AM
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Probably because he's played by Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Yeah, that's probably it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/17 09:02 PM
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I'd advise you to reconsider your position. I take it like the large majority of women you're only interested in top men? If that's the case, being prudish is a surefire way to make sure they won't give you the time of day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:42 PM
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Two words: Silicon Valley.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/17 01:15 PM
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t most guys aren't sexually invisible. That's just your solipsism projecting on all others. Virgins make up about 20%. They are the minority. Keep believing that if it helps you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:41 PM
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Like literally everyone, especially women? Most people can read style and know that it's an extension of your personality Yeah, right. Keep believing that. But the majority of guys are just average. Brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department. They aren't hideous and they aren't perfect so it's their style/personality that's the defining factor for the majority. No, it's not. In fact, it's so not that most guys are sexually invisible during their younger years (and their older year…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:25 PM
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And you don't get any kind of vibe when you look at them? Nothing? Nope. Like what their hobbies, favorite music and movies are, what kind of drugs they like, what kind of people they associate with, how they talk, what they talk about, what social class they are, etc. Who gives a shit? Looks are the determining factor when it comes dating. You got them, you're good. You don't got them, you're fucked. For me this is like we are both looking at a color blindness test and you are telling me that a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 02:11 PM
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They look the same, just with different clothing and hairstyles. I really don't know what else to say. The only real difference is the second one is slightly more buff. Seriously, if you told me they were both the same person and the pictures were just taken at different times, I'd believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:59 PM
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why they wouldn't. How are they even close to being the same type of guy? Are you just blind to personality/vibe? Shrugs They look almost the same to me. And looks are what matters when it comes to dating, who gives a shit about the rest?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:48 PM
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http://healthresearchfunding.org/married-men-live-longer-single-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:47 PM
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Again, tons of pictures of conventionally attractive attractive guys just with different clothing and hairstyles. Just lol at this. You just can't tell me that this guy and that guy (with more muscles) attract the same women so I can't imagine TRP working on most women. They're basically the same guy, so I don't see why they wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/17 01:40 PM
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Sluts don't exist, dude. Women don't give out sex for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:39 PM
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Go for it then, if you love it so much. Heck, as a woman, you could be having sex literally 24/7 if you so desired. So what's stopping you?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:36 PM
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It's not me saying it, it's science.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 10:35 PM
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Sex isn't buying someone dinner. It is if you're a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 09:14 PM
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I don't think so, kid. I don't have the time to go on a wild goose chase right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 07:17 PM
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Is that reply meant for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 07:17 PM
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No. The studies showed very clearly never married men had worse health and overall quality of life than their married counterparts. If you think this is wrong, put up or shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 04:18 PM
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correlation doesn't mean causation. True. If I recall, the studies didn't account for social class though. If this is simply correlation as opposed to causation, it's up to you to prove it. But that was back then, now the better men don't marry. I disagree, actually. Objectively good men do still marry and have relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 04:17 PM
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Possibly, but the point stands; for men, there is a very direct correlation between low quality of life and a lack of women in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:55 PM
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Actually no, studies demonstrate that unmarried have significantly lower quality of life than their married counterparts. As for gays... honestly, using the gay community with all the problems it has as an example of a group of men who manage to do well on their own is... well, there's no nice way to say it; it's fucking laughable. Not bashing on gays btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:43 PM
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Things would go back to the way they were before; a small handful of top men hogging up virtually all of the women. Although calling them "top" men would probably be superfluous by that point. Honestly, I think the negative consequences for women would be minimal to non-existent, at least on a personal level. It's been demonstrated time and again in studies that women can live very fulfilling lives without men, sadly the same cannot be said for the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 03:33 PM
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Women give up having sex with lots of attractive men, as many as she could ever want. That's like saying men give up on being able to buy tons of attractive women dinner when they decide to get married. Somehow, I think they'll manage...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/17 11:14 AM
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Not from what I've seen. Admittedly I'm no expert, but still...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 08:17 PM
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I believe this was one of the ads in question. I wouldn't characterize it as vulgar, necessarily, but no, it's not a turnon. Moreover, women were fine with ads such as this one. I can't watch the first one. It's blocked in my country. And you're speculating. The study also found that women generally weren't repulsed by ads that showed sex in the context of a relationship. True, but all that shows is they're willing to bite the proverbial bullet and put out provided it helps them achieve an ulter…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 07:17 PM
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There's no reason to believe there was anything particularly distasteful about the sexual imagery of the ads they were shown.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:36 PM
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No, because their source has a blatant pro-feminist bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:34 PM
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Your study comes from unreliable sources, mine doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:31 PM
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If you enjoy gratin dauphinois (whatever that is), there's no reason for the image of gratin dauphinois to physically repulse you. Just like if women enjoyed sex, there'd be no reason for the image of sex to physically repulse them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:31 PM
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Ok, this is just getting sad now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:22 PM
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Not according to (reliable) studies, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:13 PM
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There is no point to this, is there?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:10 PM
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Just. Get. To. The. Point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 06:06 PM
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Just say what you want to say so I can explain how it's nonsense and we can be done with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:55 PM
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Is there a point to that question?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:51 PM
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I have read all of them. My sympathies then, but that alone doesn't make you privy to the motivations of the women who read them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:44 PM
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The marketing did no control group without a product being sold therefore they have 0 results on how women react to sexual images without a product. I don't see why that should be relevant, and it's on you to prove that it is. As far as I'm concerned, we have two studies with opposite findings, and only one of them comes from a reliable source.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:42 PM
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I think you mean "what did you imply?" and what I implied is that women don't like sex. Was that clear enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:40 PM
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Women don't read erotica for the sex. Do you even know how 50 Shades of Grey ends?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:37 PM
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No, my views are based on simple logic and deduction: we have two studies here with conclusions that directly contradict one another. They cannot both be correct. One of the studies was conducted by a marketing firm with no known biases, the other by people with one obvious feminist/female bias. To me, it's a no-brainer which of the two is the most believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:35 PM
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So you think they faked the physical responses? Or there were no physical responses and they just made shit up, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:23 PM
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Brotto offers two possible explanations: "Women are consummate multitaskers, and society rewards this ability." Women have become so good at doing a million things at once — talking on the phone, cooking dinner, watching TV, reading a magazine — that it often becomes hard to slow it down or turn it off during sex and just enjoy the moment. Sound familiar? I'd say an entire paragraph of one of the people involved in the study doing nothing but kissing women's asses and going on about how their sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:18 PM
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You know, I'll take a study conducted by an advertising firm over one done by people with an obvious feminist bias any day of the week and twice on a Sunday.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:07 PM
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I commend your honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 05:01 PM
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I believe women enjoy and care about sex Actually, this study would beg to differ: https://www.marketingweek.com/2013/12/05/sex-sells-but-only-to-men-study-finds/ I mean, I understand that female sexuality seems to be a rather inexplicably sensitive subject, but don't you think it'd be simpler to just come and admit you're just not that into sex, instead of writing literal terrabytes of articles, posts, and threads trying to rationalize away your low sex drive?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:47 PM
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Whatever. I'm reposting that comment with a study to back it up. I'll leave you to try and see if you can come up with a valid pretext to take it down again.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:42 PM
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Removing an obviously satirical comment? Oh, now you're not even trying to hide it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:39 PM
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Yeah, as if this type of comment isn't common around here. Nobody's buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:38 PM
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Someone took that remark strangely personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:36 PM
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Why, because they say they do? Pleeease... at least they could've come up with a semi-realistic number.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:34 PM
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Then why do we have sex? Because sometimes you have to do it in order to achieve your goal. Why do we read erotica? Not for the sex. Why do we buy vibrators and porn? You don't. The sex industry caters almost exclusively to a male clientele. Why do we become physically aroused at images of sexual situations? Bitch, do I need to bring out that study about the effects sexually-charged advertising has on women again??
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:28 PM
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Yawn...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:25 PM
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I believe women enjoy and care about sex You believe wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 04:12 PM
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Women don't like bad boys, they like hot boys. It's just that hot people tend to be more on the asshole-ish side of the spectrum because, you know, they can get away with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/17 11:23 AM
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Whatever. So are you going to tell me what fetishes women have that men don't that justify your ridiculous notion that women have more varied tastes than men? No? Yeah, I thought not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:53 AM
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Yawn...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 01:13 AM
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Are you aware that just helps me prove my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:14 AM
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I was going to ask you if you knew what a fetish is, but then I remembered you already demonstrated that you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/17 12:05 AM
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Yes, to explain how someone with a foot fetish, in the example they give, is attracted to feet which most people aren't. You know, how they have a TASTE that most other people do not. Try harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:41 PM
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetish https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/fetish Do you need more or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 11:36 PM
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/fetish Actually, no, it just means a sexual attraction to any nongenital body part. And I'm done with you for now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:50 PM
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Why not? Because they're still conventionally attractive guys, no matter how shittily they dress. Go back to my nerd girl example. You still only focus on one cherry picked trait Then why don't you tell me what cherries (read: fetishes) women have that men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:49 PM
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Got bigger fish to fry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:43 PM
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All forms of sexual attraction are fetishes. A fetish for slim, conventionally attractive guys is not uncommon though, and hardly proves anything since it's the same "fetish" every woman has. And no, him having funky clothes and a weird hairdo doesn't matter. Again, what types of fetishes do women have that men don't? No, I'm never gonna stop asking this. If you would let rate a hundred men and hundred women each other and you would probably see a lot more variance in the ratings of women while …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:35 PM
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Nobody asked you, piss off.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 10:33 PM
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I'll be back to kick your ass up and down this thread later.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:14 PM
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But why does the difference between skinny guys and buff guys not count? Or between bad boys and businesses guys? Or between artsy and brutish? Or between cute and tough? Or b Because they're all the same type of men, just wearing different clothes and hairstyles. Again, what fetishes do women have that men don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:10 PM
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And they all had various body types from skinny to skinnyfit to fit to muscular and built, but you just ignored that fact. Yeah, they were all either slim or slightly buff, you know; traditionally attractive. You're just proving my point for me. So again what fetishes/sexual tastes do women have men do not that make you think they have more varied tastes than men do? And no, I'm never going to stop asking you and you're never gonna answer, because you know the moment you do, it's over for you. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 07:02 PM
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onally attractive guys with the different styles. If that's the best "evidence" you got, we might as well stop now So completely different guys, with different personalities, different game and different style don't count as varied taste simply because of what? No, not "completely different guys", all the same type of conventionally attractive guys, just with different clothes and hairstyles. Again, this is like me saying guys like nerdy girls and trying to use this picture to prove it: http://d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:51 PM
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All I see is a bunch of conventionally attractive guys in funky clothes. I mean, that's like me trying to prove that men like nerdy girls by showing this picture: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49xongVnc1qhi6zlo1_1280.jpg If that's the best "evidence" you got, we might as well stop now. I'll ask again: what do you base your ridiculous claim that women have more varied tastes than men on? What fetishes do they have that men do not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:26 PM
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Ok, Johnny Bravo, then what fetishes are more prevalent in women to justify your ludicrous claim that women have more varied tastes then men?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:18 PM
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Well, if it isn't Mr. "Look at me, I'm so awesome and well-adjusted, I don't even see losers on my daily life". I honestly didn't expect you to respond to me again after the thrashing I gave you last time. And I'm gonna tell you exactly what I told you the last time; look at the BBW scene and then look at the (straight) BHM scene, then come back and talk to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 06:09 PM
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Now if all the fuckers who keep claiming women have more varied tastes in men than men do in women could see this...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/17 05:17 PM
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'Women don't have to struggle for anything in life' It is hyperbolic, yes. But women as a group overall have it way better than men as a group overall. Anyone who disputes this is just being difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/17 12:06 PM
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The problem with incel is that it's pretty much an exclusively male condition, and a non-deadly one at that. Because of the former, nobody cares, and because of the latter, there's a somewhat socially acceptable pretext not to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 07:41 PM
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True, correlation doesn't equal causation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 11:03 AM
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Introverted /= shy. I like introverted girls, but shy ones? Nah. It's my experience that shyness in women is often a mask for prudishness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/17 10:58 AM
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No, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 05:37 PM
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TL;DR. But honestly, the real question to me is why is everyone else's well-being more important than mine? I know, I know... as a man, I'm supposed to put everyone else's wants and needs before mine own. But you know what? Fuck that noise. If nobody cares about my well-being and nobody's looking out for me, then why the fuck should I care about theirs?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 03:17 PM
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The people over at TBP and generally in general when it comes to denying the truth of TRP, can't possibly imagine anyone over at TRP looks like Johnny Depp, or Chad Thundercock To be fair, if you look like Johnny Depp or Chad Thundercok, you don't really NEED TRP to get laid, now do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/17 02:52 PM
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One condition. They can't be the same race as me. That's an odd preference. Any reason why?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 09:32 PM
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The average woman is a single mom. Huh... proof? Well, poverty for one. Women have much less means to get out of poverty. No, they don't. Women can, and often do marry out of poverty. Next. A man can get any labor job and make well above minimum wage without any education or reason to pass a drug test. First of all, just lol at this. Second of all, so could a woman. A woman... can become a sex worker. Again, an option the average men simply does not have, and one that a surprising number of wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:17 PM
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There are waayyyyy more single moms than homeless men though. You're comparing 2% of the population with 50% of the population. And no, most women aren't single moms by choice... Doesn't matter. By your logic, since it doesn't affect the entirety of the sex, it's a non-issue. Shitty things can happen to anyone, but I seriously cannot think of a single bad situation where a woman wouldn't have it better than a man in the same position. So yes, I stand by what I said, men have it objectively worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:07 PM
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Single motherhood, rape, poverty, By their own choice, no, and no. And again, less than 50% of women are single mothers. If most men not being homeless disqualifies homelessness from being a male problem, then it also disqualifies single motherhood from being a female problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 08:00 PM
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But... how does that effect most men? How does single motherhood affect most women if most women aren't single mothers? How does the average man have it worse than the average woman? Besides everything else I already mentioned? Neither gender has it worse. Both genders have their problems. You can't say "men/women have it worse based on this 1 statistical of homeless people". There are a lot more measurable problems. I can, and I do. Men as a group have it worse than women as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:41 PM
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I mean... it's not "wishful thinking", it's fact. Most men are not homeless. But almost all homeless are men, hence it's a male problem. By that logic, most women aren't single mothers, therefore single motherhood isn't a female problem. Why can't men "marry up"? Proof that the majority of women are willing to marry men who earn less than them, or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:34 PM
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think women have more social mobility? I don't think that's true, do you have an evidence to support this? Simple. Women can marry up, men can't. Most homeless people are homeless because of mental illness. This is not applicable to 95% of the male population though.... Wishful thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:23 PM
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Yet 80% of homeless people are men, and women have higher upward social mobility. I smell bullshit (read: feminism).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 07:04 PM
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Women are much more likely to live in poverty No, they are not. more likely to be single mothers, etc. Because they choose to be. Maybe both genders have it worse in some ways? They don't. Men have it objectively worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:46 PM
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Honestly? Older sister/younger brother incest porn. And no, I have no brothers or sisters.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 06:05 PM
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Yeah, sorry, no. I refuse to take any so-called "statistical data" with a differential that wide seriously. Me thinks people just have trouble accepting that someone might actually have a valid reason for wanting to end their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:53 PM
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30% to 70%? That's a pretty large differential, don't you think? Yeah, sorry, I don't buy that. I've seen similar statistics in the past, some even going further, and saying it was around 90%. I think because of the societal stigma against suicide, people just can't accept that someone might actually have a valid reason for wanting to end their life, and look for a way to pathologize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:47 PM
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What will happen to them from seeking help for depression? There is help out there... google "SSRIs" they are very effective. Anti-depressants are only a temporary fix, they're not a real solution. They're meant to help you while you're trying to find an actual solution. Unfortunately for men, if they can't find that solution by themselves, they're shit out of luck. Men are more prone to mental health problems because mental health issues are x linked. They are genetic. If a woman has a damaged …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:16 PM
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Mental health issues are much more prevalent in men. Interesting, isn't it? You'd almost think men suffer more psychological abuse throughout their lives or something... and really, what makes you think the higher suicide rate is solely due to a greater prevalence of mental health problems? That's a pretty bold claim to make. I hope you have some evidence. Depressed men are also less likely to get help compared to depressed women, because they don't want to appear "weak" (toxic masculinity) Yeah…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:52 PM
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What, is the huge disparity in the rate of suicide not evidence enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:30 PM
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The world of men is brutal, cruel and uncaring. The only time anyone gives half a shit about what men think or feel is when they're children. Maybe men's attraction to caretaker/mother figures is part of a subconscious desire to return to those times, and escape the daily, soul-crushing grind that is the life of the average man?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 03:22 PM
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But if female sexuality is present, it's a part of her reaction. Who said it was? Again, nowhere in the study does it say that women only reacted negatively to female sexual imagery; it said they reacted negatively to sexual imagery period. we know women do not react with disgust to sexual images without a product being sold I don't know who this "we" is, but it sure as hell is not you and me. Seriously, proof please.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 02:48 PM
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No, I said they weren't shown EXCLUSIVELY female sexuality, which makes sense. Naturally, if you're trying to use sex appeal to sell to women, you'd use male sexuality, since you know... most women are straight. If they were shown both and only reacted negatively to one but not the other, I'm sure the study would have made mention of it, but it didn't; it said their reactions to sexual imagery were universally negative. So again, what gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:45 AM
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Yeah, both groups were shown sexuality, but only one reacted negatively to it. That's the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 11:26 AM
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Again, that might've been a legitimate argument if they had expressed disapproval at ads exploiting FEMALE sexuality, but that's not what the study said. The study said women reacted negatively to all ads featuring any form sexual imagery period. That's like assuming men would react negatively to images of women buying expensive gifts because it would remind them of their objectification. But honestly, I think most men would actually appreciate being the ones being courted for once.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 02:24 AM
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But if you place fries on a woman's back while she's getting fucked from behind it seemingly doesn't have the same effect on a man, at least according to that study. So what gives?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:21 AM
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I might be able to accept that argument if their reaction to sexual imagery was indifference instead of active disgust. There is no reason for anyone who enjoys sex to be actively disgusted by any form of sexual media. Men do not react with disgust to written erotica.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 01:09 AM
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Women don't respond positively to sexualized images. Why not? I mean, they do enjoy sex, right? At least according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 12:23 AM
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Way longer than any of them will ever willingly admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:49 PM
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Ok, that's something at least. In regards to my original point about women not enjoying sex, I'd like you to take a look at this article: https://www.marketingweek.com/2013/12/05/sex-sells-but-only-to-men-study-finds/ What's your response to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:40 PM
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e ONS and STR and FWBS lol where you living bro? In the video game call of duty? and the don't cheat unless they're dissatisfied with their current partner and wanna trade up. They cheat when the bigger, better deal comes along and wants to marry them. Dude, are you ok? Legit question here, I've never even met you, and you bombarded me with like 20 messages in the time since I've been out.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 10:51 PM
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But not as much as men, is that it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 05:45 PM
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So you're saying women are less sexual than men then? That is what you're saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:57 PM
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You can't say it, can you? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:53 PM
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I find your utter refusal to answer a simple question disturbing. Instead of whining about bad faith or whatever, you could've just wrote back "yes, women are less sexual than men" or "no, they're not" and we could've moved on, so why not just do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:48 PM
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Answer the question. Are women as sexual as men or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:21 PM
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Answer the question please, are you admitting that women are less sexual than men or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 04:06 PM
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So you admit women are less sexual than men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 03:27 PM
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No, YOU are the one arguing for the latter, and I'm saying that no, there is no equal demand for sex coming from both sides, and that's why your position is nonsensical. when demand for sex is equally high on both sides according to you? Or did you just miss that part?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 03:00 PM
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Then I'll make it so simple even you can understand; I don't actually expect you to "put your money where your mouth is". You've proven time and again you're not willing to do so, and you're not gonna start doing it now just because I, a low-status male, told you to. What I'm asking you is how exactly do you account for there being such a large group of men who are simply cut out of the SMP because they "didn't make the cut"? Why is the SMP so unbalanced in favor of one gender over the other, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:52 PM
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At the moment, there's a large group of men that want to have sex but can't get it because they have nothing to offer in return besides their own consent. What do you think of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 11:52 AM
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And when they're willing to put their money where their mouth is, I'll believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 03:50 AM
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That's not actually what I believe though, that's just the standard response I tend to get in this type of discussions. Kudos to you for breaking form (even if only slightly), but still you assume way too much. Sometimes a cigar really is just a cigar.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 03:35 AM
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There were literally no jabs subtle or otherwise. Then what is this exactly? ... raise my eyebrow at your apparent desire to have me tell you you're bad in bed... I mean, it's either a jab or one of the most bizarre non-sequiturs I've seen in a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 03:15 AM
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You can pay someone else to be mean Why would you assume that? What, was I supposed to fly into a rage after your not-so-subtle jab at my lack of bedroom skills?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 02:55 AM
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I'm sure I am, given that I a) am somewhat out of shape and b) never had much chance to practice. Though again, that's hardly relevant, seeing as women don't even care about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 02:33 AM
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This is the part where you go on a tirade about how women supposedly enjoy sex, they just don't enjoy it with me, and I'm the one with the problem, and blah, blah, blah...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 02:11 AM
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Because I don't. Women don't like casual sex, it would be evolutionarily disadvantageous for them to have evolved to like it. It's been shown several times that by in large, women will not engage in sex without an ulterior motive. Add to that the fact that you, as a woman, have a vested interest in maintaining the illusion that you and the rest of your gender actually do enjoy sex and, well, I have no reason to believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 02:03 AM
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Don't believe you. Anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:52 AM
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Oh, they do, just not knowingly as I said. I've seen plenty of women being tricked into ONSes by high SMV men (which really is all that Chad is; an attractive, naturally high SMV man, the kind that every woman desires) because they believed (or at least WANTED to believe) those men were interested in something more. But that's the point; they were tricked into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:47 AM
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Women don't have ONSes (not knowingly, at least), and the don't cheat unless they're dissatisfied with their current partner and wanna trade up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/17 01:17 AM
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It's not. That's just a line feminists use to besmirch romantically-unsuccessful guys. Truth is a lot of guys don't have any options to begin, and guys need to fuck; it's an integral part of their growing process. And because they refuse to suffer quietly, feminists get pissy and start slinging mud at them. And look, when you have no real options to begin with, it takes as much effort to fap to mental images of a supermodel as it does for a regular Plain Jane. So why even waste time fantasizing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/17 09:42 PM
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Spurred by the movement for equality, women are increasingly adopting active roles They are?? Well, that's news to me. Seriously though, stopped reading after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/17 03:15 PM
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Motherfucker, you beat me to it! xD
/r/TheRedPill03/01/17 12:18 AM
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Does TBP deny that the TRP unique sets of advice are ineffective when clearly evidence suggests otherwise? Speaking as a non-piller, I will concede that a very small amount of TRP's advice can actually be useful if interpreted correctly. THAT BEING SAID, I don't believe that advice is unique to TRP. In fact, most of the useful stuff about TRP you can find fairly easily in other places. Doesn't mean I don't support TRP's right to exist for different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 11:26 PM
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1,246,881.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 09:43 PM
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So what am I supposed to make off this? Should I become a trainwreck of a guy who follows his impulses that gives a fuck about nothing so I can get girls to like me? No, and here's why, here's the part that she left out; the guy who did this to her? He probably looked something like this: https://queerty-prodweb.s3.amazonaws.com/wp/docs/2014/05/tumblr_n4vgul7ad01qe57zoo5_1280-360x202.jpg And unless you look like that, if you're on this board there's a good chance that you don't, you're probably …
/r/TheRedPill02/01/17 06:27 PM
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Then just be glad you have the option of being passive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:42 PM
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Honestly, I don't blame you. If I had the option of being passive, I'd do it too. But don't you dare complain about your situation, when me and most men would kill to have it half as good.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 04:36 PM
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I just said: all of them will get plenty of male attention. What more do you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 03:19 PM
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Yeah, and they'll all get plenty of it. What's your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:14 PM
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Have you considered taking a more pro-active approach to the dating scene then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 01:13 PM
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You'll have to ask him that. Sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 02:26 AM
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Most men would want her, sure, but most men would also be sensible enough to know they have no chance of getting her and not to even bother trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 02:10 AM
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If we're talking about SMV, then it's 2. By leaps and bounds. If we're talking about male attention, all of them would get more than their fair share of it. Yes, 2 is by far the most conventionally attractive, but the thing about guys is they know when they're out of their league and that a woman like that won't settle for anything but the absolute best, so they won't even waste time or effort trying to get with her. Personally, I'd go for number 1 as she seems to be the most attainable (though …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/17 12:56 AM
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I can show you statistics and studies that show that by every conceivable metric, women are less sexual than men. Would that be ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:11 PM
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Setting aside the fact that I obviously did, I have freaking eyes on my face. I can see how women as a group behave, and no, even if you are the exception to that norm (and I'd bet my left nut you're not), it still doesn't invalidate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 08:10 PM
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There is no difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 07:51 PM
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I just did, and you acted defensively.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 06:55 PM
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Why do you get so defensive when someone calls you out for being frigid though? You'd almost think you have something to hide...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 06:21 PM
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No they aren't. Women aren't men. Our sexual attraction towards men doesn't come from physical looks alone. Citation needed. And no, that stupid popular notion that women are less visual than men or whatever does not count.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 06:03 PM
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Oh, please, do go on. Tell me how much you supposedly love sex. I mean, that's totally not what every woman I ever called out on this did.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 06:01 PM
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an, why would they? They don't even like sex. I'll keep telling it so long as you keep showing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 02:49 PM
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Can you talk to a girl without stuttering or pissing yourself in terror? Congratulations, you have all the social skills you'll ever need to succeed in the SMP. "Ugly voice"? The fuck is that? And women don't give a shit about penises. And I mean, why would they? They don't even like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 02:12 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 01:43 PM
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Yeah, and they're totally not exactly the same thing, yo. Lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/17 12:30 PM
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Fine, and shaming Plain Janes who go around slutting it up with men way above their league in the vain hope that one of them will wife them up is MY freedom of expression. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/16 01:45 PM
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Christ, the amount of self-fellating going on in this post is just insane... "Oh, look at me! I'm so awesome and well-adjusted, I don't even SEE losers in my daily life. Blah, blah, blah..." Do everyone a favor (yourself included, but mostly us) and lay off the bravado, will ya? Nobody's buying it. And you know why? You know what's the one thing all the men on these boards have in common, regardless of whether they're BP, RP or anything in-between? They ALL struggle with women and relationships,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/16 06:30 PM
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That's the big question everyone's too afraid to ask. Never doubt that a large group of sexually frustrated angry men can topple a society; indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. (men are far more varied in interests than women, just look at the variety of pornography) THANK YOU! Been saying this shit for almost 5 years, and nobody's willing to listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/16 10:57 PM
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My point is that it isn't it's supposed frailty that's wrong with masculinity, it's how strict and rigid it actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:48 PM
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Yes, but again, that's not the point I'm trying to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 11:56 AM
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You miss the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/16 03:05 AM
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again: the problem with masculinity isn't that it's fragile, it's that it's rigid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 09:55 PM
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I've said this before, and I'll say it again: men have way more varied tastes in women than women do in men, despite the popular notion otherwise. THAT BEING SAID: those obese women have incredibly (conventionally) attractive facial features, so I'm not sure they're the best example to demonstrate that. Honestly, I would've hoped most people on this board would have already gotten past the false notion that the absolute most unattractive thing a woman can be is overweight. Get real, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:30 PM
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Ah, so you don't understand basic metaphors. Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 07:23 PM
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Ah, so a rickety old fishing boat IS the same as a Yamato battleship in your mind then? Got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 06:54 PM
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Despite its more extreme fringe having become a (somewhat) socially acceptable target for ridicule in recent years, Feminism remains women's lobby and as such, remains virtually unbeatable. Women are the true power in society, meaning what they say goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:32 PM
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Marriage is a transactional contract involving sex. That's one way of looking at it, doesn't mean it's the same as prostitution. Anymore than a rickety old fishing boat is the same as a Yamato battleship just because they're both naval vessels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:29 PM
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Well, it's way more complicated then I'm frankly willing to get into here, but fine, here's the basic breakdown: the reason the Japanese government is concerned about the whole "herbivore" phenomena has NOTHING TO DO with their alleged refusal to engage with women. The backbone of Japan's economy is and has always been its workforce, its human resourcers, and the willingness of their workers to lead, quite frankly, shit lives and work themselves to death out of a sense of patriotism and love for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 03:27 PM
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The problem of Japanese herbivores is way more complex than that of Western so-called "MGTOWs".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/16 12:38 AM
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What's your reasoning? Feels? What's yours? Prove me wrong. Ah, I see where you're confused. You think MGTOW hate women. MGTOW, like red pillers, seek to understand the true nature of men and women. What we do with that information is often very different. Citation needed. 'Cuz all I see on MGTOW forums is incels endlessly bitching about women. I did. You claimed that MGTOW reject women. I pointed out that the definition you have of MGTOW is too narrow. If you think that's a "true Scotsman" fall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 11:50 PM
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The list of celebrities who have been suckered into marriage to gold-digging whores is immense. By your argument, they're all involuntarily celibate. Makes no sense. There's a difference between a marriage falling apart naturally, and being swindled into marrying someone who's already planning on divorce raping you and wants nothing to do with you otherwise. That's what the (very small) minority of divorced MGTOW are. You say MGTOW spend their time criticizing women when they've rejected women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 11:14 PM
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Marriage is marriage. Prostitution is prostitution. You can draw parallels between the two, but they are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 10:53 PM
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Marriage is marriage .. unless you get divorce raped. Then it's prostitution. And that means you're incel. Well it looks like Kanye West, Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp will be joining the incel ranks. Lol. No, marriage is marriage. Being swindled into marrying someone who's only doing it so they can divorce-rape you later is you falling into a trap, which is what happened to most divorced MGTOW (who, from I've seen, are a minority within the group). And that means you're incel. Well it looks like Ka…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 10:31 PM
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Marriages are business arrangements, whether we like to think of them that way or not. By your definition, that is prostitution. I don't disagree with this. However, it puts most men in the incel category by your reasoning, which doesn't make sense. Incel = involuntarily celibate. No, marriage is marriage. Prostitution is prostitution. And getting swindled by some woman that doesn't have any feelings for you and is planning on divorce-raping you first chance she gets into marrying isn't "marriag…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 10:10 PM
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Does paying a prostitute to have sex what you make you not an incel? That's essentially what those men did, even if they weren't aware of it. They talk about women for the same reason that conservatives criticize liberals and vice versa. But they've sworn off women. Why the fuck would they spend all their bitching about a group of people they have absolutely no interest in engaging with? And are you saying that MGTOW are the opposite of women the same way liberals are the opposite of conservativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 09:35 PM
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That the majority of these japanese men had no choice. Isn't that what I said? Look, Japan is a way more complicated affair than we can go into here.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 09:31 PM
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Actually a large percentage are divorced. Those that are were probably divorce-raped by women who never even liked them in the first place and only married them for ulterior motives (read: money). Look, just navigate yourself to any MGTOW forum you can think of, and kindly explain to me why a group that has supposedly has sworn off women, spend all their time doing nothing except bitching about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 09:20 PM
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Of what exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/16 09:09 PM
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I didn't say all of them they were "losers" necessarily, just that they didn't have a choice whether or not to go their own way. Like I said, Japan is a pretty complicated case.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:46 PM
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Japan is a different subject altogether. But yeah, even most so-called "herbivores" are only there because they have no choice but to be there. You can't choose to go your own way when you never had the option not to to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 01:30 PM
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Dude, MGTOW is a coping mechanism for incels. It's basically a bunch of bottom tier guys going "You can't fire me because I quit!" Men don't want to be away from women, it goes against our very nature. Our innate biology. Have you ever actually been to a MGTOW forum? Literally all those fuckers do is fucking bitch about women 24/7. How exactly are they going their own way?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/16 12:34 AM
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Dude, it's not like the girls are covering a guy's entire tab. It doesn't matter how often or how little they supposedly do it, that you claim they do it at all is enough to out you as a fake.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 11:18 PM
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I don't see how the strip club part makes you doubt it. The part where you said you saw the girls buying food and drinks for patrons.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:53 PM
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Yeah, sure thing. Props though, your OP was almost believable. If you had just changed a few things and left out the whole bit about strip clubs, I would've been completely suckered.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:28 PM
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Strippers buying food and drinks for clients? Fuck, yeah, it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:20 PM
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Chads get to finger her during the dance, Chads get blown during the dance, girls will sometimes pay for Chad's drinks/food Stopped reading after this. Honestly, I'm just sorry I didn't jump ship earlier...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 10:10 PM
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That's ok I've never seen anyone berating MEN for having too many sexual partners. Well, anyone without a very obvious axe to grind, at least... As for women... well, from a purely biological evolutionary pov, a high n-count is not a good thing for a woman to have. It would cast doubt over the parentage of her children, and very few men are willing to invest time and resources into children they're not at least reasonably certain are theirs. Honestly, it doesn't bother me. 'Cuz here's thing, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:51 PM
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Ideally, their mid to late teens. That's around the time most ppl become mentally and physically mature enough for sex. With luck (and maybe this is just a little wishful thinking on my part), you may be able to reverse most of the emotional damage caused by sexless teens during your early to mid twenties, but any later than that, well...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:23 PM
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For men, psychological and emotional growth are deeply tied to sex. If men don't become sexually active fairly early on, it'll hurt their psychological development, and possibly cause permanent damage to their psyche.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 09:14 PM
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That's more or less what it was originally, but like I said, Phantom really only became a mainstream success after they retconned it so he wasn't an uggo anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:31 PM
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Interestingly enough, PotO only really became mainstream after they retconned the Phantom so he wasn't an uggo anymore (I mean, have you actually seen the godawful Gerard Butler film?). Doesn't that make you wonder?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/16 02:27 PM
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Same as men; good looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 07:39 PM
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Or maybe they're just desperate? Have you considered that?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 12:02 PM
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Sure thing, sweetcheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/16 11:39 AM
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You can laugh, but that girl has more SMV in her pinkie finger in her 30s, than most of us will have at any point in our lives.
/r/TheRedPill20/12/16 05:28 PM
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Average men still don't have the upper hand over women when it comes to dating. You're out of your fucking mind. Because apparently you didn't catch it the first time.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:40 PM
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Average men still don't have the upper hand over women when it comes to dating. You're out of your fucking mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:37 PM
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Women are the gatekeepers of sex and commitment. Men can potentially be gatekeepers of status. "Potentially" being the key word here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:36 PM
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Getting laid is easier for women, but when it comes to dating the average guy has the upper hand over the average woman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuL6cJPz3Nk
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/16 03:32 PM
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That's why I said you should google women 'mirin guys. There's plenty of proof, but of course you rather think that they are all secretly pornstars that are only faking interest Yawn. I don't care what women say they like, or what they say they do... blah, blah, blah.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:02 PM
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Cool story, bro. Needs more dragons and shit (although if you actually do drugs, that shouldn't be a problem).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 09:00 PM
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unless they think that no one sees them women don't 'mirin guys in school or in front of their parents, but if you are at the beach for example and she thinks that no one is looking in her direction you can catch them 'mirin them. You know what? I'm too tired to write a more elaborate response, so I'm just gonna say "proof" and shut this down right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:55 PM
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Another "the sky is blue" argument. Do I really need to show proof that cougars, milfs, 40 year old female sex tourists, the whole middle aged women erotica market, old sluts and hotwifes exist? Don't forget the Hook Killer. No list of urban myths is complete without him. And gigolos too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:52 PM
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Their testosterone levels sink as they age, yet their sex drives rise as they age (and then sink again once they are old) Lol. Proof?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:45 PM
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only do it if they think that no one can see them? Why would they think no one can see them?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:42 PM
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Unfortunately for you, I actually did. Those two quotes are out of context. The article said testosterone treatments had a lot of negative side-effects on women (no shit), hence the "lack of benefit" to it. But also that it did serve as a libido booster. Before I offer proof you first have to show if you can even read before I bother linking pornhub statistics, a link to sex toys on amazon and even field reports from TRP I don't give a shit what TRP says. They're a bunch of undersexed blowhards …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:32 PM
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How am I supposed to prove the women love foreplay, cuddling, making out, spanking, oral sex, toy use, fingering and roleplaying if you are going to ignore it either way? I don't take women just saying they do as proof. Find something better. Have you never seen a woman that was turned on? Google women mirin hot guys, watch big cock reaction videos or hide behind the bushes and look through the windows of some Chad you know. Again, women acting like they like sex doesn't prove anything. FIND SOM…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:29 PM
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How about the fact that a third of all porn viewers are women, that erotic novels are primarily read by women, that sex toys and masturbation exists, that a lot of women have casual sex (just not with you), etc. Proof. Or that the testosterone doesn't matter as much for women as it does for men. Yes, it does. Or that other hormones are important for women's sex drive like oestrogen or progesterone that vary depending on their cycle or LH. Bet you didn't know that because you seem ignorant all ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 08:03 PM
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Sex is more than just PiV. Oral sex, using toys on each other or helping each other masturbate after sex does exist as well. Proof women get off to other forms of sex besides PiV, or that they enjoy them more than men do. Around Chad women become much more sexual than the average man. Proof. Seriously dude get some help. Give clearly been hurt and instead of learning to cope with painful feeling you went down a conspiracy theory path instead. Scientific studies and common sense classify as consp…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 07:54 PM
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Yawn... whatever, sweetcheeks. You know, I bet you spent your late teens and young adult years being passed around like a joint, didn't you? C'mon, tell us the truth.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:52 PM
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Fuck Rollo. Rollo is a pissy little bitch who can go eat a bag of dicks, for all I care. And fuck you too. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Women don't like sex. They don't like it because of biological and physiological reasons, and those reasons don't mysteriously go away as they grow older.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 03:59 PM
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You know what I see? Tons of guys like me pissed off and bitter as hell because they can't get laid, women putting out in a desperate attempt to get attention from the top percentile of men even though they despise it, and a small handful of men at the top making off like bandits.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 03:23 PM
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Obvious flamebait is obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:06 PM
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The fact that 70% of women are incapable of orgasming isn't an argument? The fact that women have 1/20 of the testosterone men have isn't an argument? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:43 PM
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DAT lack of counter-arguments though...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:39 PM
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For about every guy that sleeps around there's also a woman that does so. Yeah, only difference is the guy's only the one doing it because he wants to. This isn't mutually exclusive with enjoying sex. It wouldn't be a viable strategy if most women enjoyed sex as much as men did though, would it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:35 PM
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I'm not OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:27 PM
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Proof or gtfo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:27 PM
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Yawn. You're trying waay too hard, sweet-cheeks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:26 PM
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Can't win in an argument? Try and make it personal. You're pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:24 PM
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No, that's what we're trying to get, us men. Gotta keep it straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:23 PM
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It's false that they're enjoying it, I'm sure they're having it though (much to their chagrin).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:13 AM
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Pretty sure it does if you only do it to get something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 05:12 AM
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Oh, no. I know plenty of women are having sex, doesn't mean they like it. And they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:52 AM
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Can't win in an argument? Make it personal. Typical. Women don't like sex, they never did, they never will. The only reason they'll have sex with you is to get something out of you or because of an ulterior motive. Deal with it, pleb.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:32 AM
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Huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 04:14 AM
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I never said women were sluts, they are most definitely frigid though. Most of them at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 03:54 AM
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And with plenty of other poor dopes who want to have casual sex but can't because you don't want to because you're frigid.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 03:05 AM
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Fact: Women can and do experience pleasure while having sex. Immense mind numbing limb shaking pleasure. Faked. Over 70% of women are incapable of orgasming through sex. Fact: women can want to fuck regularly and with intensity. Faked. By virtually every metric you can think of, men are infinitely more sexual than women. Fact: she probably desires to do this with one partner/relationship at a time. Not 50 at a time. Faked. She probably doesn't desire it at all, but is willing to do it if she sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:38 AM
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I don't expect anyone to prove anything about themselves. We're not talking about individuals here, we're talking about an entire demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:35 AM
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Who's crying about personal attacks? I just said I didn't find what he said believable.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:33 AM
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So no then.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:16 AM
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I do genuinely enjoy being slutty but... But of course you do. It's just all those other women who have reservations, right? They're the problem. Yeah, nobody's buying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:15 AM
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Not necessarily. Answer the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 02:02 AM
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We get it - your desperate penis and bitter masturbation speaks for everyone. You'd be able to enjoy sex with someone who didn't give a shit about you, so we all must too. That is the definition of casual sex. Are you saying you're not into casual sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:58 AM
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Typical. Can't come with a proper counter-argument, try to make it personal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:30 AM
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If men want women to be sluttier than they should reward it by dating slutty women and treating slutty women the best. You really don't get it, do you? If you genuinely enjoyed acting slutty, you wouldn't be asking for a reward for acting slutty.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 01:25 AM
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Many women do. Unless you are implying ONS (something that is fairly divorced from anything except "fun") don't happen, it is a fact that there is an expression of enjoyment of sex from both genders. Again, where is this? Why don't you back up your talk with some action? Less talkie, more fuckie. I don't think that happens much, but for the sake of argument lets say it does. I like my job, I still wouldn't do it for free. There's no contradiction there. By comparing sex to a job, you've already …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:45 AM
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Women SAY they love sex. Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:42 AM
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hat a person enjoys sex? An internal opinion isn't something that can be objectively displayed I'm requesting women to back up their talk with some action. If you supposedly enjoy sex so much, stop acting frigid and engage in casual sex. Don't use sex as means to an end, don't use it to extract resources from men, etc. And don't brag to your friends about how little sex you have with your partner as though it's something to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:19 AM
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Again, you talk the talk, but you don't walk the walk. Come back when you're ready to back up your words with some action.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/16 12:11 AM
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uh, no, it's great and not something i need or want to be "liberated" from. Said literally ever woman ever, but were they willing to put their money where their mouth was? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:42 PM
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That women hate sex, basically.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 11:27 PM
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Women don't want to be liberated through sex, they want to be liberated FROM sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/16 10:43 PM
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I've watched documentaries about it, and heard second-hand accounts from former sugar babies and sugar daddies. 500 bucks for a bj? No, thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/16 01:32 AM
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Yawn.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:42 PM
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Like most men, I do not do as I want, but as I must.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:26 PM
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In b4 "herp u be high value mans, u no count derp". I'm an attractive person, You've already given my rebuttal for me, I don't have anything else to add.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 09:12 PM
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Who are you replying to? I never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:57 PM
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If you don't want to feel like you have to ask women out, just don't. Meet new people, show interest, and let them make the first move if they want to. For (non-exceptionally attractive) guys, that's a good way to make sure you die alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:51 PM
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Only women want to stick to their genders roles. We stick to ours because we're stuck in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:17 PM
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I'd give it to her, as would about 99% of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:17 PM
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Coming out as a MRA is social/career suicide, you can't really blame them for choosing to keep quiet about it. I disagree that MRAs never go out and actually do anything, they have tried to in the past; the problem is they just don't have the social or economic capital to get anything done. There's no impetus to help men. Humans are programmed to view the male of the species purely as a disposable tool, so I don't think the men's rights movement will ever be able to accomplish much of anything o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 08:12 PM
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Sorry, hiring a full-time prostitute at way above market price does not interest me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 07:51 AM
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from the day the first European ship arrived in America and long before there was ever such thing as a feminist. Christian values are the basis for most American laws legislating sexuality, including this one. You guys really need to start reading actual history books. Google the Social Purity Movement and the Women's Christian Temperance Union.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 01:28 AM
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They can get sex and it isn't as stigmatized as before. Actually no, sex is way harder to get for the average man today than it was in the days before feminism. In fact, it was feminists, or more accurately their predecessors, who were largely responsible for outlawing prostitution. Social stigma was never what prevented men from having sex outside of relationships, the only thing that prevented them from doing so was (and still is) the fact women didn't want to. There's a lot of women who are o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:34 AM
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Life's better for single men, Objectively wrong, but what exactly is your reasoning behind that? it also fights for men to become nurses and teachers and even stay at home daddys Most men don't want to be nurses or teachers, and those who do could do so even before feminism. As for being a stay-at-home dad or husband, it's still as unfeasible for most men as it was before feminism, and for exactly the same reason: even if they want to, women will not allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:28 AM
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And my retort to that is how, exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:22 AM
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CMV: Slavery was more positive than negative as a white person. I was going to write a big, elaborate response, deconstructing and rebutting OP's claim, but this quote really says it all. And I'm a lazy mofo, so I'll just leave it at that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/16 12:19 AM
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When you started believing in what you just wrote. I don't know about your political leanings, but when it comes to relationships, you're as traditionalist as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 11:14 PM
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When you started believing in what you just wrote. I don't know about your political leanings, but when it comes to relationships, you're as traditionalist as it gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 10:58 PM
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Sigh... at least you tradcons are honest about what you really want.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 10:43 PM
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You're an idiot then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:50 PM
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You talking to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 08:15 PM
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There is a inordinate amount of social policing that takes place. If you, as a growing male, take away that you shouldn't run from your masculinity, that it's okay to see a hot girl on the street and want to fuck her and literally nothing else, that It's okay to compete with your fellow men and be assertive to every woman who blesses you with her presence... You're judged negatively by broadly BP society. No, you're judged negatively by society if you do all that and still fail at getting female…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 06:39 PM
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Overpathologizing, for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:53 PM
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Not like you need to be a genius to figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:39 AM
1

Have we met before?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:28 AM
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Proper studies that look at how people actually behave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 01:18 AM
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What good-looking men think they know. There, fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:23 AM
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I'm sorry I can't explain how female attraction works to you. You don't need to explain it to me, I know how it works. And sometimes, I really wish I didn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 12:01 AM
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But it's also the same conclusions as what studies have come to. I haven't seen any. I've seen plenty of surveys that said it, someone even being advertised as proper studies, but surveys are unreliable. When it comes to rating people if the other gender men's votes generally align but womens are all over the place (with fit, thin tall guys being the most popular) Again, surveys are unreliable. This would go along with the hypothesis that women’s bodies are primed for high interest in sex due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:45 PM
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Men are attracted to more of a percentage of women than women are to men. However, women's attraction varies wildly from woman to woman whereas more men would agree whether a specific woman is sexually attractive. Again, that's an oxymoron, but whatever. This is clearly not going anywhere. I'm trying to picture the average man here. Since you want to know: the average man will take whatever's on offer, and be thankful for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:26 PM
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I don't see many romantic novels featuring fat guys either. Every guy wanted to bang the same few chicks while women were way more varied in what kind of guys they want. Personal anecdote.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:14 PM
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See how big the BBW scene is, and then see how big the (straight) BHM scene is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 11:02 PM
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When you said that men have more fetishes, and not different tastes, I assumed you meant they just wanted to fuck different types of women. Otherwise, the phrase "men have more varied fetishes, not tastes in women" is an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:49 PM
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You're the one who brought love into the conversation. We were talking about tastes and what is sexually attractive to men and women, and the point remains that in actual fact, that men's range of what they find sexually attractive is way wider than women's
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:35 PM
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Real life says men have way more varied tastes than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 10:31 PM
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What? Why are you conflating love with sexual attraction? I don't know how much clearer I can make this, but just for the heck of it, I'll try: for men, the former requires the latter, but the latter most certainly does not require the former. If you still can't understand it, I don't know how to make it any clearer. Sexual attraction is a requirement of being "in love" If I didn't already know you were a woman, I would now. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:58 PM
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Women say otherwise, AND THEY'RE FUCKING LYING. There. Fixed it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:52 PM
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Being "in love" with someone requires sexual attraction for both genders so there isn't any misunderstanding here. So you need someone to be in love with you in order for you to be in love with them? Unrequited love, the fuck's that? Seriously, just lol. That being said sexual attraction doesn't require love -- particularly for men. ^ Nobody ever said it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:44 PM
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When shit goes south, you blame the people responsible for it, the people with the actual power. In both of these cases, that's women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:39 PM
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Men fall in love through sexual attraction, through their "fetishes" This reply only serves to show how ignorant of male nature you truly are, though that's hardly surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:19 PM
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Sad but true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:17 PM
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Big whoop. Gay guys like anything, they're fucking guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:14 PM
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I think the word you might be looking for is "sarcasm", and it doesn't translate very well over the interwebs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 08:02 PM
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We all know that male tastes are pretty much the same all over the board, which leads to a conventional attractive female archetype.But female tastes vary greatly Which is why the BBW scene never really took off, and the BHM scene is going on in full swing... oh, wait. Seriously, just lol at this retardation. Men have WAY more varied tastes than women could ever dream of.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 07:58 PM
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Professor Simon Baron-Cohen also thinks the recent explosion in high-functioning autism is due to assortive mating among "nerds". So forgive me if I'm skeptical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 07:46 PM
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Being a less than above-average guy on a dating website really, really sucks. It's one of the most soul-crushing experiences you'll ever have. I can't blame those guys for getting pissed and lashing out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 07:38 PM
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Putting out is part of a woman's marital duties. If she doesn't uphold her duties and do her part to keep relationship, what right does she have to demand he do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 07:34 PM
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What are you doing? Oh right, you accuse people of lying without proving it! You aren't continuing the discussion, you are killing it. I don't know to prove they're lying, personal anecdotes do not to be disproved in order to be dismissed, largely because they're impossible to prove or disprove. What don't you understand about this?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 06:27 PM
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Calling somebody a liar, without showing any evidence to prove that they are lying, is even worse than anecdotal evidence. It detracts from the actual conversation and destroys the debate. It provides nothing. Anecdotal evidence = No evidence. I don't understand why people have so much trouble understanding this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 12:55 PM
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Almost as bad as using personal anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 02:08 AM
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On what you just told me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:41 PM
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Calling everyone a liar who you disagree with is bad faith debating. And using personal anecdotes as evidence is bad debating, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 11:33 PM
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No, I'm not. You said you were able to succeed in the dating scene despite adversity, but you never faced any adversity to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:56 PM
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successes there were countless failures. It's made me very aware of what my dating weaknesses are and I had to create some over-the-top solutions to make it work. If you're really attractive, highly-educated, rich and whatever else, I don't really see how the dating environment is "tough" for you. But whatever...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:45 PM
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Expecting this place to be void of anecdotal evidence is naive. Using anecdotal evidence in a debate is even more so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:45 PM
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No, it's not. Sex is objective, you either enjoy it or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:44 PM
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"Past girlfriends"? Does that mean you actually fulfilled all those requirements? What the hell are you complaining about then?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:10 PM
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Sex is inherently subjective, so it can't be objective. No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 10:00 PM
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Anecdotal evidence trumps no evidence whatsoever. In a proper debate setting, anecdotal evidence IS no evidence whatsoever. And presenting it only shows how ignorant you really are.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:59 PM
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I'm gonna ask again: do you honestly believe straight women are looking for the same thing in men that you are looking for in other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:56 PM
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You're fucking gay, how the fuck do you face the standards I do? What, do you think straight women are looking for the same things you lesbians do? Also, gay women are not much more likely to approach than straight women. So what makes it easy for me? Believe me, I'm perfectly aware of the problems lesbian relationships face. But saying you face the same standards I do as a woman is still retarded, no matter your sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:54 PM
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Liking sex or not is. And most women don't like sex. I made an objective analysis, and came to the only logical conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:51 PM
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You're a woman, so obviously it's not. What the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:48 PM
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You don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:46 PM
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Not, it's not. Using personal anecdotes in a debate is one of the stupidest, rookiest mistakes you can make.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:45 PM
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Actually, no. It's really not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:38 PM
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Those are their excuses, at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:23 PM
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Yeah, and studies also show that about 70% of women can't orgasm, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:19 PM
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Do you realize calling every person a liar who disagrees with you is a poor way of debating? You realize that backing up your points with unfalsifiable personal anecdotes is also a piss poor way of debating?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:18 PM
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No, dude, you don't understand: there is no scene to keep going. It's just top percentile men making off like bandits, and women desperately trying to save face.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:09 PM
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Most women don't like sex, an extraordinarily small and statistically inconsequential number of them do. There, fixed it for you. hookup culture exist because sex is good. Except for the part where it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 09:06 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. I'm sure if you just keep believing it, women will eventually start liking sex... despite, you know, all that biological and scientific that actually prevents from doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:58 PM
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Or a guy. Or a fucking liar, that's also a possibility, which I neglected to mention and I apologize for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:54 PM
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That's not much of a comeback.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:53 PM
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But I thought women who went to these things were made up? Or hired escorts, it's one or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:52 PM
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LOL, I'm gay. I know quite well how difficult... Excuse me while I laugh myself to death.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:50 PM
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Sorry, still don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:49 PM
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Welcome to PPD, where pretty lies come to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:47 PM
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Those women are rare, and I mean extraordinarily rare. There wouldn't really be enough of them to keep the scene going on their own. Plus, like with all women, opportunities for sex present themselves to them constantly in their regular, day-to-day life. They certainly wouldn't need to engage in the slog that is "hookup culture" just to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:45 PM
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Female. No offense, but I stopped reading after this. I'm sorry, but there's just nothing more I can say to try and explain how different my situation and that of most men is compared to yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:41 PM
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Being uninhibited isn't the issue. Liking sex or not is. And most women don't like sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:40 PM
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That's one way of looking at it. I mean, the only reason TRUE hookup culture has never existed is because women didn't want it to. But that's always been the case, even before feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:38 PM
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Then you're a liar, and all I have to say to you is "cool story, bro".
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:36 PM
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Don't believe you. The only way that's true is if you're rich. Places like that do exist, but you have to pay out the ass to get entrance. And the women there all escorts, but that should go without saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:33 PM
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Male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:28 PM
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I don't believe it, I know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:24 PM
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They may advertise as such, but I guarantee you, those things are all either scams or complete sausage fests.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:23 PM
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Those things don't actually exist in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:20 PM
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Hookup culture is a myth, it doesn't exist. It's just the top percentile of men using women for casual sex, and women pretending they actually enjoy it in order to save face in front of their friends after they're pumped and dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:17 PM
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Whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:07 PM
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^ Is being difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 08:05 PM
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Because sex is getting harder and harder to get for the average guy, and anyone who disputes that is just being difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/16 07:59 PM
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I don't know. Serious brain damage, perhaps? I don't even want kids of my own, let alone be stuck raising other people's kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/16 02:09 PM
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I don't believe them when they say what their opinions are. Can you really not see a difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 06:49 PM
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No actual numbers, weak reasoning behind their conclusions. I see no reason why I should take that study over my own.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 06:21 PM
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It is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:18 PM
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Guys who get regular and frequent access to sex are all either conventionally attractive or have money, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:14 PM
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Yawn... if you've got something of worth to say, then say it, and spare me your little cock-and-bull stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:08 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/attraction-evolved/201609/are-men-attracted-clever-women The problem isn't that you're relying on women's opinions, it's that you're relying on what they say their opinions are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 05:01 PM
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Always, sooner or later, you will have to ask women "is this guy attractive? If you believe that, then you have no idea how proper scientific research is conducted and have no business posting a thread like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:49 PM
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So you wouldn't accept a survey or women constantly saying this. No, I would not. If not, what would you accept? A proper study, perhaps?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:35 PM
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Anything that actually suggests that women's sexual tastes are actually diverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:19 PM
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Men Cannot have an Objective SMV Because Women's Taste Differs so Greatly... 3 words: citation fucking needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/16 04:04 PM
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People are shallow. Deal with it. And you can tell a lot more about a person by how they look than most would like to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/16 03:19 AM
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I find surveys unreliable for the most part, but again, I'm not discounting the possibility of what you said being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:35 PM
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Yeah that's not true based on the data I've seen -- which is that married men are generally happier than single men and that married men are also generally satisfied/happy with their sex lives. Not sure about that last part, but considering getting sex outside a relationship without having to pay cold, hard cash is nigh impossible for most men, it may well be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:30 PM
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Link me to where it says they do then.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:08 PM
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more men engage in casual sex than women There is way too much bs in this thread and I'm way too tired to go through all of it, I'm just gonna say that nowhere in this link does it say more men engage in more casual sex than women. All it said is that men who engaged in casual sex showed less signs of depression than women. Yeah, big fucking shocker.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 06:01 PM
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I don't think lesbian bed death is the driving force here. Neither do I, but there are more consequences to lacking someone willing to take on the role of catalyst in a relationship than just sexlessness.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:42 PM
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Married men are happier than divorced single men, but not happier than never married single men. Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 05:38 PM
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Lesbian couples unfortunately tend to be highly-dysfunctional. This is not a condemnation of the lifestyle, it's simply a statement of fact. Here's the thing; all relationships, romantic or otherwise, require at least one person to take on an active role. To act as a catalyst, if you will. That role normally falls on men, since usually they don't have the option to be passive in the first palce. Women, on the other hand, do. They're used to being passive. They're used to just waiting and have th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/16 03:23 PM
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Very little. Men are used to settle for whatever's on offer. Heck, a lot of them are grateful they even have anything on offer to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:32 PM
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Now, see, I don't accept that. Men love sex, and while yes, some of them may have standards, give them enough time without it and they'll shove it in virtually anything. If women weren't frigid by nature, they'd do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:21 PM
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Most women don't enjoy sex, period. Most of them view it as something they give to men, in many cases grudgingly. However, the fact they're not willing to make that sacrifice for the men they're with does reveal heaps about their true feelings about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 10:02 PM
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That's what I am trying to say: no, it doesn't. Then TRP literally has no point in existing. Yes, betas like me. Then you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:56 PM
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Well, then that's a serious flaw TRP needs to fix. I mean who the fuck do you think goes looking for stuff like the Red Pill in the first place? Betas? Hell, no. Most TRUE Betas are content with their existence. If TRP isn't aimed at helping Omegas, then it literally has no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/16 05:26 PM
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I agree with virtually all of this, except for the part about gender roles having changed. I'm sorry, they haven't. Certainly not for men. And even for women, yeah, superficially they may appear to have changed, but when you really look at it, even those career-driven, girl-power types tend to work less, earn less money, and retire earlier than their (married) male counterparts, a lot of them drop out of the workforce entirely within a few years of having children. Polls say most working women w…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/16 02:56 PM
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Yup.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 08:25 PM
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A lot of women say that, but they don't actually mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 05:09 PM
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Yeah, they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 01:10 PM
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Truly promiscuous women are few and far between. The problem is a lot of women have short-term relationships with very high SMV men in their younger years, which in turn gives them an exaggerated idea of their own SMV. Those women often have trouble coming to terms with the fact that, for a LTR, they may have to settle for a man who's a little more... low key. They feel like they're dating down, even though in reality they're not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/16 02:27 AM
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This again? I've said it a million times already and I'll say it a million more if I have to; you don't have to be attractive yourself simply to know what is attractive or not. I am not an attractive man, and I'm not romantically successful, but I can definitely you tell what women do find attractive and what you need to be romantically successful, obviously I didn't learn it through personal experience, but that shouldn't matter. Obviously, I can't actually teach you to be attractive, if for no…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 05:06 PM
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Real sluts will sleep with almost anyone, but real sluts are very, very rare. Most of those girls are just putting out because they're trying to snag an Alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 02:52 PM
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I think slutty girls are cool I wouldn't know, I've never actually met one. Actual sluts are pretty damn rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:16 PM
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They do. And yeah, I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/16 01:05 PM
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Direct experience matters, everyone knows this. Ok, I assume you've never had to take care of a tiger. Does that mean you don't know what a tiger eats? If you're going to start lecturing us about what women want and what women feel and what women think, people are going to ask you how you know what you are talking about. Asked and answered. I ask you that and you say "I just see with my own eyes". Yeah, that's not persuasive. Which is why when my direct experience tells me you are completely wro…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 08:02 PM
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You are claiming knowledge of something you know nothing about. It's like hearing you tell me about a book you have never actually read. Or telling me about how much you know about BJJ because you watched a bunch of internet videos. Again, no. Completely false. I'm not an attractive man, there, I've said. How does that automatically preclude from simply knowing what women are attracted to or what they want? That literally make no sense. I don't care if you think I am a woman. Since I don't care …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 07:24 PM
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Your personal experience is the problem. I doubt very much that it has been filled with successful relationship and great sex, but you rely on it to tell you about... successful relationships and great sex. Claiming I can't know what women are attracted just because I can't attract them myself is fallacious. I said I knew what women wanted, I never claimed to have it. There are pics of me that show you who I am if it is that big a deal to you. I'm going to assume you're female from now on. Telli…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 07:10 PM
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The only reason I'm engaging in debate with you instead of trying to get pussy is because I know I can't. I'm ugly, overweight and have no social status, meaning I have nothing to offer women in exchange for their sexual consent. I could pay for pussy, and have done so in the past, but that's about the extent of what I can do. And yeah, I'm bitter as hell because of it, as any man in my situation rightfully would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 07:02 PM
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Sorry, not doable. What part of that don't you get? As a man, you get internal and external validation from your ability to attract women and getting them to sleep with you. That's just how things are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 06:47 PM
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That's the thing about truth, it doesn't matter if you believe it or not, it's still the truth. Why are you telling me this? Why aren't you telling it feminists? Heck, from my personal experience, it's a lesson women everywhere would benefit from, not just feminists. Right now, you're preaching to the choir. Also, I couldn't help notice you didn't answer my question. Are you male or female?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 06:41 PM
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f it, and everything in between. They love sex because it's sex and it's awesome. Sorry you missed out on all that, but it's not the fault of women. Yeah, never heard that one before. Man, we're really desperate to make this personal, aren't we? You're not saying anything I haven't heard a zillion times before, and again, I didn't believe it then and I don't believe it now. Out of sheer curiosity, are you male or female? That's because people are trying to tell you something but you are refusing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 06:31 PM
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OR I just have eyes, and actually see what women do instead of just blindly listening to and believing what they say. Did you ever consider that possibility? And just because women don't enjoy sex with you does not in any way mean they don't enjoy sex with men as a whole. Yeah, never heard that one before. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 06:19 PM
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Not doable. You're not gonna do undo thousands of years of evolution just like that. Men need sex in order to attain anything remotely resembling a state of happiness, that's not gonna change anytime soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 05:15 PM
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Interesting point. Imo, there's no denying that polyamory is the natural state of affairs. The problem is it doesn't really work out too well outside of the primitive, tribal setting humans originated from. What inevitably happens in a polyamorous societies is you have a small group of top men hogging up all the women for themselves, and leaving men with the bottom with nothing. Again, this can work in the tribal setting, where most men are really only useful as cannon fodder and little else... …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 04:10 PM
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Most RPers are conventionally unattractive men, the one demographic feminism has caused more harm to than any other. Saying RPers should support feminism is almost like saying Jews should support national socialism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 03:47 PM
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Or maybe I just have eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:40 PM
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You're catching on. I'm proud of you. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 01:24 AM
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They have the potential to be both.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/16 12:12 AM
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You mean that they can be selfless? You're totally losing me, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:44 PM
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Point missed. Ah, well... I tried. And again, just because they have an ulterior motive does not necessarily mean they're evil or manipulative (they can be though). Their ulterior motive could even be selfless, like a woman who has sex with her husband not because she wants to or because she enjoys it, but because she knows it'll make him happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 11:10 PM
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only use sex if there is some resource gain involved. You don't believe that they ever do it just for innocent fun. I suppose I did, but again how exactly do you infer they're evil just from that? Is a little kid who forces himself to gobble down his veggies just because his parents promised he could have ice cream if he did evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:53 PM
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Women generally don't 'put out'. They have sex because they like sex. Said every women I've ever known ever. I didn't believe them, I don't believe you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:38 PM
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Again, how exactly do you infer that much from a statement as simple and innocuous as "women don't like sex"? I don't like Sandra Bullock movies, does that make some kind of 2D, Saturday morning cartoon villain too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 10:26 PM
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Explain to me exactly how me saying "women don't like sex" translates into "women aren't people" in your mind? No, really, I'm legitimately curious here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 09:40 PM
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Because women don't like to fuck without incentive? You got it in one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 07:40 PM
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You want to convince women to stay sexually pure? Simple. Just put them in a situation where they don't feel they have to put out to get the top percentile of men to give them the time of day, and voilá!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 03:56 PM
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ns the study to the layman, if you want to read further the actual study, and an explanation on how they compared NRY to https://psmag.com/8-000-years-ago-17-women-reproduced-for-every-one-man-6d41445ae73d#.782lynd1o No more need be said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 03:11 PM
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Actually, no, the study said 60% of men THROUGHOUT HISTORY did not reproduce. Even accounting for changes in mating/pairing habits (which in my humble opinion, have been negligible at best, but I digress). 8000 years ago, it was more like 17 women reproducing for every 1 man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 02:50 PM
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I'd say it's women in general, regardless of whether or not they're attractive. That's the big problem, I think: women all want the same thing, and they keep getting more and more picky. But yeah, that's a fair point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/16 12:10 AM
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Anecdotal evidence, yo. Doesn't mean shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:51 PM
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That's one way of looking at it. I for one find it sad that society forces men into such rigidly-defined gender roles, regardless of their aptitude (or lack thereof) for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:40 PM
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It's not socialization. Things are the way they are because that's how women want them to be, and women decide how society is run. Couples where the female is the main breadwinner are usually unhappy because the woman is unhappy, and she makes damn sure to spread her unhappiness to everyone around her. Men are also "socialized" to be stoic, yet put men in a situation where they feel they don't have anything to gain by upholding their social role and bum... r/incels becomes a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 11:37 PM
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That a middle class non-celebrity woman can't Yes, she can. She just doesn't want to. That's MY point. It's easier for a man to improve his SMV/RMV than women. Well, when you have zero value by default, I guess there's no way for you to go except up. Seriously though, get real. Money doesn't up your SMV. That there are more good-looking women who are willing to date average-looking men if the men can provide than the other way around, which you were saying doesn't happen. Again, where's your pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:56 PM
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Celebrity isn't the right word. But just google her picture and you'll see why I used her as an example. A regular middle class woman isn't likely to have good looking guys trying to marry her so that she can provide for them. Like a regular, middle class woman would ever in a million years accept to financially support her partner. A regular middle class man with a middle class office job can find a woman who will marry him for his provider abilities. For the third, yes: with enough money, both…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:39 PM
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They don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:15 PM
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Dude, you're not getting it. Yeah, men can use money to buy virtually anything, including sex. And you know what? So can women. Again, do you think that that bloated monstrosity of a woman Gina Rinehart couldn't be walking around with a male model as her fuckboy if she wanted to? Ofc she could! The only reason she doesn't is because she doesn't want to. There's nothing men can buy with money that women cannot. I think there are still more good looking 20 year old women willing to marry Donald Tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 09:11 PM
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Toxic masculinity is when men who aren't very good at being men try to act manly and get thumped by society for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 08:42 PM
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I've seen many Stacies marry an average Joe if he can be a good provider. Most women can provide for themselves nowadays, and if they can't, then the state will. Hypothetically speaking though, even if they couldn't, would that type of relationship interest you? Being a living breathing ATM for some bitch who probably won't even deign to put out every now and again? If it's really what a guy wants, he can at least make himself into a rich guy and pursue entrepreneurship in order to become rich e…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 08:28 PM
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I've seen much more Stacies with average Joe than average Jane with Chad relationships. That makes one of us then.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:43 PM
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en who were willing to date across, with someone within their own league. But dating down? Never. Well, I don't like to use the words up or down because it would imply some people are worth less than others, which is not true, but if you're talking about dating out of their league in terms of looks I've seen much more Stacies with average Joe than average Jan It's an hypothetical, you moron. Get over it. Because men start losing their social circle during their 30s, assuming they had one to begi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:41 PM
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Yawn... I bet you probably think you and all your female friends are all the second coming of Venus, don't you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 07:36 PM
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You realize this is all an hypothetical, right? You're getting way too into this. Now that I've stopped laughing out loud, allow me to respond: yes, because the man will be alone, the women won't unless she chooses to. Even if she couldn't find a mate (which she could), she could still have female friends, which I'd argue is actually more important for a woman's emotional well-being than finding a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:36 PM
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You think men (including yourself) are above all women, I literally cannot comprehend how anyone could get that idea from reading what I've written here. You're delusional. I think you should go lie down for a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:26 PM
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Mate, it's not my fault reality doesn't agree with your wishy washy view of how the world should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:23 PM
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I don't think you determine how attractive your kid will be from genetic testing. You can roughly determine how the child will look. That's really what matters most. You don't think women suffer from loneliness to the same degree as men? If that is a serious question, I will legitimately laugh out loud.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:20 PM
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I have. And if you do the same, you know what you'll see? Let me tell you. With younger couples, you'll see women from all shapes, sizes and levels of attractiveness paired up with invariably fit, tall and conventionally attractive men. With older couples, you tend to see more even pairings. But an uggo dating an attractive woman? Yeah, no, sorry. You just don't see that in your day-to-day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 06:12 PM
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ys only women are allowed to date up, it's just an excuse for that man to get better as a whole. It's putting both men and women on different, strange pedestals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WHpQVMZbjo
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:49 PM
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Hookup culture is a myth, it doesn't exist. Yes, eventually after years of being pumped and dumped by the top percentile of men, some women just accept that they're just not going to be able to snag a man of that caliber and settle down with someone a little more within their price range, so to speak. But even then... I've seen some women who were willing to date across, with someone within their own league. But date down? Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:41 PM
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Explain to me why there are so many studies about how people date within their league. Explain to me why 60% of all men who have ever lived did not reproduce then. The false narrative of women always dating up is paired by bitterness towards women. I am bitter, I make no pretenses about it. Given my situation, I think I'm entitled to at least that. Women date "down" AND up all the time. No, they don't. Some might think they do, because women today have a grossly over-exaggerated idea of their ow…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:35 PM
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Because they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:24 PM
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Also, why is dating someone within your league not an option? Because people almost never date within their own league, not really. Men date down, women date up. That's the norm. Problem is the bottom tier of the socio-sexual hierarchy is pretty much 100% male. So you see the problem here.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:23 PM
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They can't. I'll be very blunt, life sucks for men at the bottom, always has. Difference is in the past, men at the bottom seldom lived past their 20s. To achieve anything remotely resembling happiness as a man, you need a mate. There's just no way around that fact. And if you can't find one, you're in for a miserable fucking ride. I swear, if I was in charge, I'd institute a series of mandatory genetic fitness tests for any couples wanting to have children. If they didn't pass, they'd only be a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 05:15 PM
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By this logic there should be a huge amount of sexual dymorphism with the mental functions between men and women. There isn't???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/16 04:22 AM
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In practice, it doesn't matter.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/16 03:59 AM
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Not buying it. Men in prison passing up on free pussy when offered? Yeah, right.
/r/TheRedPill30/11/16 02:44 AM
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In Prison over 80% of all sexual victimization is perpetrated by Women, even though Male staff outnumber Female staff 3 to 1 in positions that come into contact with inmates. Yeah, the inmates wish. Am I the only one who sees the irony of a thread complaining about a supposed epidemic of female on male sexual abuse in a subreddit created for the expressed purpose of helping men who can't get laid even when they try?
/r/TheRedPill30/11/16 01:05 AM
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Same thing that goes through everyone's head: "man, that guy must be loaded."
/r/TheRedPill30/11/16 12:58 AM
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If women would rather fuck weak handsome men than dominant ugly ones, ugly men would have been bred out of existence by the remorseless logic of natural selection. No, because in the past women needed men in their lives in order to survive. And even today, ugly women can still have sons, and they don't get bred out (the ugly women, not their sons). Instead, we see the opposite. "Ugly" men outnumber "beautiful" men by 100 to 1. A bit of an exaggeration imo, although it might interest you to know …
/r/TheRedPill29/11/16 08:19 PM
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Women would rather fuck an ugly guy with a strong frame than a handsome guy with a weak one Stopped reading after this.
/r/TheRedPill29/11/16 08:02 PM
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You seem to think that only those with options can have abundance mentality, Well, if you have an abundance mentality while not living in a state of abundance, then you're clearly misled. I mean, that's just logic. Again, I get what you're saying, but that's not what abundance mentality is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:50 AM
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That's not what abundance mentality is, but ok, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:37 AM
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So you want men to THINK they have a lot of options even though, as you yourself just admitted, they don't? Elaborate, please.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 03:00 AM
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Get real. The reason most women have an abundance mentality is because they live in a situation of abundance, men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/16 02:45 AM
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I guess I don't know how to explain that personal anecdotes that can't be proved or disproved make up for shit evidence in debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:40 PM
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They would if they thought they had a chance of actually snagging the man in question. Let's face it: all women are marriage-minded, all of them are "in it for the long haul". The problem is most of them are chasing after men who are way out of their league, and a lot of them end up getting pumped and dumped. And of course, then they pretend they knew what the guy was doing all along and only stayed in the relationship because they're also into casual sex in order to save face. It's a lie though…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:36 PM
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p tier" men. You realize "top tier" is silly. Average women don't date top tier men. Not on the long term, no. On the short term though, they definitely do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:16 PM
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I see plenty of couples where the woman is average. Average men in couples? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 05:08 PM
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Since the only people dating in their early twenties are usually women and top-tier men with lots of options, I'd say yes. Yes, they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/16 04:42 PM
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I don't give a shit what TRP says. Trophy wives exist because guys like to fuck hot, young women, not because they wanna show off to other guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:31 PM
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Yeah, I've never met any women who CLAIMED to dislike sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:30 PM
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But they wouldn't then feel a need to brag about it or to show off their lady. Usually they don't though. Four words: "Don't care, got laid." Let me ask you something, did you learn everything you know about men by watching American Pie or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:26 PM
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I mean women in general. Doesn't matter what part of the world they're from.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 01:23 PM
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Sure they do... if it serves to up their status. Otherwise, no, not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 03:17 AM
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You miss the point. Men don't want lots of sex partners or a hot wife because it'll increase his status with other men, they want them because... well, because that's what they want. They're the ends, not the means.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:36 AM
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Scientific and empiric data.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:34 AM
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I think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:23 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 02:07 AM
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Makes perfect sense to me. The fact is most women don't enjoy sex, so being able to maintain all the benefits of a relationship without actually having to put out or doing so as least as humanly possible would be something for a woman to brag about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:40 AM
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Proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:34 AM
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Men brag about their sexual exploits more than women I'm certain they do, but that doesn't mean much. Women bragging about how much sex they have is a bit like me bragging about how many women I've bought dinner for. Women don't brag about sex, true, because there's no status to be gained by them doing so. Heck, if anything women brag about how long they've gone WITHOUT having sex with their husbands (and yes, I have seen this happen).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/16 12:33 AM
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As a male reader of erotica (though definitely not the same type of erotica most women read), I can definitely see the parallels between the two, but they are ultimately very different. Erotica lacks visual support, which is a huge drawback if you're just looking to get off by rubbing one out. It does offer other advantages though; being able to see into the character's minds allows you to establish a deeper and more intense connection with them. You feel their lust for one another, their desire…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 10:09 PM
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Yeah, men do this more than women Do what? Take up trophy partners or brag about them? If it's the former, then yeah, possibly. If it's the latter then no. I find men care a great deal about what other men think, in general. Men brag more to men than they do to women, just like women brag to women more than they brag to men. Not ALL men, but generally. And I'm telling you we don't give a shit. Throughout our History, men had to constantly compete against one another for a chance at the mating ga…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:50 PM
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What makes you think I give the slightest bit of a damn what TRP says?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:45 PM
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Nope. Again, that's just projection. Virgin men aren't bummed out because other men think less of them for being virgins, they're bummed out because they wanna get laid and can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 09:44 PM
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I don't even know what you're accusing me of here. Huh... taking up trophy partners? You know, what you just accused men of doing. Men have always been the gender more likely to show off the person they are sleeping with. Bragging, locker room talk, etc. These are MALE traits more than female. Men get far more status based on their notch count and WHO they are sleeping with than women do. I repeat: men do not give a single lick of shit what other men think. You're right when they say men get mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:30 PM
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Lol, it's all you fucking do. You're the one projecting on us. Men don't take trophy wives to impress other men because they don't give a shit what other men think. They take trophy wives because they're hot and a good lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 07:01 PM
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Twenty-two. Had to pay cold, harsh cash for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 02:05 PM
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I actually agree with this. Women don't want and have never really wanted commitment from men, they want the social status and respect that comes with getting a high-value male to commit to them. They want to be able to go around and brag to their female friends about how they were the ones who managed to snatch the biggest, baddest Alpha in town. And they could give a shit about the rest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:53 PM
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Bitch, what the fuck is your deal? When did I tell anyone here to act like an asshole? I've told people here to be cautious about engaging in altruistic behavior because I know from first-hand experience that it's something others tend to exploit, particularly if you're near the bottom of the status hierarchy and they know they can get away with it without consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 01:40 PM
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Many people interpret this to mean that men become sexist because they're frustrated they can't get laid (and therefore their sexism is partly women's fault), but it could also be caused by the opposite direction; most women don't want to fuck sexist men. Anything to indicate that's the case though? Anything at all? Because here's the thing; sexism, like most other forms of discrimination, usually doesn't exist in a vacuum. It's kinda hard to hate an entire demographic of people for no valid rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/16 10:34 AM
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It's my experience that there are very few problems men can't just fuck their way through.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 04:18 PM
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which is ironic because the MRM isn't about dating as much as it's about legal and social issues Is it really though? Look, I'll be honest, I support the idea and the goals of the MRM (not the movement itself, I think it needs serious reform), but even I have a hard time believing men's rights would ever be a thing if those poor bastards didn't have to drop a Benjamin every time they wanted to get blown.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 02:45 PM
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This is sarcasm I hope so, otherwise this dude really needs help.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 11:27 AM
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MGTOW is faulty In other news, the sky is blue. Yeah, saying MGTOW is kinda faulty is a bit like saying the universe is kinda big.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/16 01:23 AM
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The reality is that a woman's weight restricts her options more than her age ever will. Not even that, dude. Ever heard of BBWs? What if I told there are guys who pay hundreds of bucks to watch a webcam show of a landwhale stuffing her face with fatty foods for 20 minutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:25 PM
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Sorry. Still not buying it, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 06:44 PM
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Literally no one here believes that, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/16 05:30 PM
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I think you should've realized by now that the Internet isn't like the real world. Yes, in the real world, women can get away with being cunts, especially to low-status men. Not so here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 08:15 PM
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Culture is never irrelevant. Actually, yes, it often is. And in matters of sexuality and gender roles it most definitely is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:50 PM
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Anecdotal evidence does not provide a factual basis. I have just read the article, and I don't disagree that what you're saying is true for western cultures like the US. But I still wouldn't consider it a fact or treat it as an undeniable / unavoidable, and I wouldn't assume it applies in a completely different society model like Japan. This isn't "anecdotal evidence" anymore than a doctor's diagnosis is, it's an expert's opinion. And it's the same everywhere; the sex industry caters to men almo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:25 PM
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Fine by me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 04:20 PM
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It's not how unicorns work either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:58 PM
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Yawn. I grow bored of you already. Women don't like sex and they will never, ever pay for it. Deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:53 PM
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No, it is not. We both know it is not, I don't know why you're pretending otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:50 PM
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No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:46 PM
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/09/are-gigolos-real-the-showtime-reality-show-is-not.html Here's an article about just this exact subject matter where they interview several male sex workers. Read their responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 03:45 PM
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My question is more about life after college, what is "status" in regards to helping a man do well with woman? The exact same thing as it was before, just like you described. I'm surprised there are people out there who can't see this. Sure, in the adult world, if you have money you can buy some of the perks people with status naturally get for free. But come on, who here actually thinks Melania Trump is with Donald for any reason other than his fat wallet? She's essentially a full-time, live-in…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:36 PM
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So did the Gigolos reality show, and it wasn't any less of a lie when they said it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 02:10 PM
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So they claim, but the fact of the matter is if you're selling sex, you're selling to men. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 07:43 AM
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Sugar mama is a thing in the East No, it's not. Doesn't matter if it's East, West, North or South, the sex industry caters to men period. Some things truly are universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 05:24 AM
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It's definitely an interesting observation to make. I've said this before and I'll say it again: disenfranchisement breeds extremism. What type of extremism depends on the group that's being disenfranchised and what sort of disenfranchisement they're experiencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/16 12:00 AM
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Why would they pay for something that's essentially free. I mean the ground is littered with guys looking for a gf. I can give them some numbers. They don't. This story is complete bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:38 PM
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My analysis is this is a bigger bunch of bullshit than that Gigolos reality show. It's an escort service, and like all escort services, any client base they might have will invariably be 99.9% male. I can also guarantee you that none of those guys are making 50k USD a month (in Japan? Lol), and whatever money they're actually making, they're making it by taking it up the ass. To paraphrase long-time male porn actor and escort Christian XXX; "show me a guy in the business who says he only does wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 11:31 PM
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You're telling me nobody trades looks for personality in a relationship? Isn't that the entire premise of AF/BB? Not usually, no. Plus there's the fact that similar personalities attract. Hot women with shitty personalities will usually end up with hot guys with shitty personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 04:48 PM
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I meant only in terms of looks, though the average western income is wealthy to some. He could've imported a wife from Asia. Ah, ok then, my bad. Then yes, that would be the first conclusion most people would jump to. But what if he outclasses her in terms of intellect, humour, charisma, kindness, confidence, talent, sexual enthusiasm etc...is it impossible to think she may prefer an awesome 5 to an 8 as vapid as herself? Dude, it doesn't matter. What part of that don't you understand? Looks are…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 03:33 PM
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1-He just has money You just said he was an Average Joe, doesn't that preclude the chance of him being a millionaire? 2- He's dating a woman with serious personality flaws, but is shallow enough to look past them as long as he can bang a hot chick Wouldn't make a difference even if he was shallow. 8+ women will always have options, no matter how terrible their personality is. They don't have to settle. 3-His girlfriend finds different physical traits attractive That's... unlikely to say the very…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/16 12:32 AM
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(women are frigid, women don't work in relationships, women don't have recreational sex (lol)) Most of them are, most of them don't, a lot of them do and wish they didn't have to. Ok, so to you, these questions must be answered before you can evaluate my OP - is that what you're saying? How BP of you. You realize I don't subscribe to any particular Pill-variety philosophy, right? The most rational solution is to leave, obviously. Inb4 cries of "but he'll get divorce raped!": small percentage of …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:19 PM
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Because that's what women want people to believe. Women form society's moral compass, which in layman's terms means what they say goes, so anyone who says otherwise gets ostracized.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:54 PM
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No, I'm not. I'm actively thinking about it objectively. If you're arguing that it's from a female perspective simply because I'm female well there's not a whole hell of a lot I can do to change that is there? You could be a little more open to hearing the male perspective on the subject, for one. Which you're clearly not. The idea is this: which is objectively more devastating to the relationship? Cheating when the relationship is already failing and you are already leaving or cheating when the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 06:46 PM
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Actually, I'm considering this as objectively as I can, from a "which is more objectively devastating to the relationship" perspective. And doing so exclusively from a female perspective, that's the problem. I don't know how you've gleaned that from my OP. I didn't make a single comment about him "devaluing" the relationship in any manner. It's the only logical conclusion one could draw from your presupposition that men cheating with random strangers because they want casual sex is worse than wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 11:14 AM
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There’s two things here I take issue with. First, isn’t it almost worse to cheat for strange vs when you’re leaving? Not really. Again, you're considering this solely from the female perspective. In your mind, if a man is willing to cheat with any random hussy, it must mean that he does not value his relationship with his partner very much. That's not necessarily true. The problem is that you, as a woman, are completely unable to comprehend why anyone would want to have recreational sex with mul…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/16 02:16 AM
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It's not just the fact that he got away with it scot-free, it's the fact that other people with less social capital (in the case of Tim Hunt and Scott Aaronson, I'd argue they're borderline social paupers) get mercilessly punished for comparatively minor transgressions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 07:39 PM
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But these guys want that validation, respect, and feeling of superiority that they didn't get in their school years, yet the circumstances have changed so much to where they won't get it as adults. I don't agree with this. I don't think the social hierarchy changes all that much once you're out of school. On a very superficial level, it may appear that way, but once you start digging deeper into it, you realize nothing's changed. If you want a good example of this, check out the whole Scott Aaro…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 12:33 PM
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Usually they're in high-powered, socially intensive careers, like stock broking and whatnot.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:32 PM
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Bullshit. That's a stupid revenge fantasy concocted by bitter nerds who got their heads shoved in the toilet one too many times during high school. The truth is that social skills and your ability to fit in are the best indicators of success in all stages of life, much more so than intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:29 PM
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You mean what careers do they have?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 11:13 PM
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How does the social hierarchy of the adult world (or just after school in general) look like? Who are the "cool kids"? The same people who were the "cool kids" in high school, for the most part.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/16 10:52 PM
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His problem is he doesn't look like Chad. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Well, as the Bard once said; "many a truth is spoken in jest."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 02:56 PM
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This man has got to be the craziest one I have talked to To quote one of my favorite fictional characters which I won't name in order not to come across as a huge dork; "Isolation can do that mind."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/16 11:36 AM
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Again, the fact you're a woman doesn't automatically make you an authority on the nature of women. Especially when, as a woman, you have a strong personal motivations to lie about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 09:09 PM
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Women's attraction doesn't work like men's. Men can go from meh to super sexy the longer you know them, Keep telling yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:55 PM
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I just want to throw figurative speech at you all night, and see what your brain does with it. Please, by all means, point me to a study that shows how a man's taste in home decor is a major sign of genetic fitness. Up there with height, strength, symmetrical face features, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:14 PM
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That's an appeal to authority fallacy, and not even a very good one at that. Yes, you are romantically successful and I am not. That alone does not make you an authority on the subject of relationships. Especially given how low the bar is for the average woman to be successful in today's relationship market.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 05:00 PM
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Yeah, well, I can imagine dating someone simply because they have a nice ass, and nothing else. I somehow can't see myself doing the same just because of their impeccable taste in drapes. Next.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:52 PM
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In my experience, the only people willing to "see past" looks are those with limited options, usually because they drew the short stick in the looks department themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:43 PM
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That's for you to prove and for me to debunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 04:40 PM
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Or a collection of personal testimonies + research + observational results? Maybe. Unfortunately for you, you don't have any. And no, a survey where they just ASK women what they're attracted to and what they're looking for in a man doesn't count. You've had every chance to bring up something equally relevant to long term attraction, and you failed. You also revealed your prejudice. Since the burden of proof was on you, to prove the whole world wrong? Bitch, do I need to repost the link to that …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:52 PM
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Adults, or at least the ones who know who debates actually work, don't try to use unfalsifiable personal anecdotes as evidence to back up their points.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:36 PM
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And excluding an actual change of appearance, which never came up as a possibility up to that point in the conversation, they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:29 PM
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, run along and play. Leave adult conversations to the actual adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:27 PM
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Except for those who are proud to be shallow. In other words, the ones who are honest. And look, us men aren't any better regard, the only difference is we at least tend to admit it. It's women's posturing that bothers me most, not their shallowness. Seriously, get off your high horse, will you? I mean seriously, you're way past hamstering at this point. Yaaawn...
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:22 PM
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Yes, it was. I said people don't get better looking just because you've known them for a long time. The possibility of an actual radical change of appearance never came up. Well, at least not until YOU brought it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:18 PM
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I'm not even attracted, unless there's a friendship first. Said literally every woman ever. Next you'll tell me the most important thing you look for in a man is a sense of humor. This just tells me that nobody is fucking you for your personality. No, nobody's fucking me because of my looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:09 PM
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No, I said people don't start seeming better-looking to you just because you've known them for a long time. Obviously, if their looks actually change, your perception of their looks will change. I mean, this is just logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:07 PM
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Except those of us who keep saying it. We're not going to go away, just because you can't cope with reality. Ok, let me rephrase it then: "said no one ever who actually believed it."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:03 PM
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Well, yeah, if someone you've known for a long time's looks change radically, obviously your perception of their looks will change as well. What I meant is people don't magically start looking more attractive to you just because you've known them for a long time and the two of you have a long-standing platonic friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 01:00 PM
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The problem with TRP is that it's borne out of anger. Anger seldom produces good satire, and honestly this is no exception. I've made my thoughts on TRP clear in the past, but I do actually feel sorry for TRPers themselves. You can see a LOT of their anger and self-loathing coming through in that "satire".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:57 PM
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Well, they can. People lose weight, develop better a better sense of style, start working out, get flattering haircuts etc. In other words, they can become more physically attractive. That sorta defeats your point though, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:39 PM
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The longer you look at them the better looking they will appear, especially if you like them. People you like will be more attractive to you. Said no one ever. There are people I've known most of my life and whom I love who aren't anymore attractive to me now than they were when I first met them. And people who I really fucking hate, women especially, who I still recognize are attractive and wouldn't mind a roll in the hay with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:37 PM
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Men are notoriously bad at estimating their own level of attractiveness. I guess that's something men and women have in common: https://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:22 PM
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People don't get any better looking, no matter how long you know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:16 PM
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It talks about what both genders look for in a potential partner. It is relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 12:04 PM
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Unsurprisingly, he found that handsome men were more likely to be chosen for a date than less handsome men. But women didn’t shoot down every unattractive man. Neither did men shoot down every unattractive woman. How about you actually read the fucking study instead of just quote mining it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 11:54 AM
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It's the third fucking time I've posted this, but here you go yet again: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/attraction-evolved/201609/are-men-attracted-clever-women For the love of God, women are just as shallow as men are. Both genders prioritize looks first and foremost when looking for a partner. Can we please stop pretending otherwise??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 11:48 AM
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A strong emotional connection on a level that's simply impossible for men to share with each other (not even gay men), a new social circle you join and be a part of (most men start losing theirs during their 30s, if they had any to begin with), etc. I mean, is this a serious question? Do you really think it's coincidence that on average, married men live longer, healthier and happier than their unmarried counterparts?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/16 02:03 AM
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Sex-wise speaking women need men more than men need women Haha! Good one, mate! So my question is this, if for men sex is just physical, meaning they could just jack it off and be done with it We can't. That's why r/incels is a thing. but a woman can't get a similar sexual release from maturation as she does with a man doesn't this imply that women need men more than men need women? Actually, looking at the studies, most women can't get sexual release, with or without a man. Ok, joking aside, yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 07:57 PM
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I honestly don't think being tall is as big an advantage as it's cracked up to be, it's more that being short is a huge DISadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/16 06:17 PM
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Almost exclusively male, yes. Keep in mind that just because you're not part of the "in" crowd, doesn't necessarily mean you're socially isolated or a reject. I've seen plenty of unpopular (for lack of a better term here) girls, and they all had friends, usually other girls like them, and relatively active social lives. Not so with unpopular (again, I really hate this term) guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 03:22 AM
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Yes. Are you going to use that as an excuse to dismiss what I've just said?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 03:11 AM
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Social isolation and rejection are pretty much an exclusively male experiences though. You have to understand that. I mean, I've literally never met a girl who was completely friendless or a social reject. For men, that's sadly not as uncommon as you might think.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/16 02:35 AM
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Both are ancient at this point so it may be difficult to tell. But yes, Charles Saatchi definitely is. Even as an older man, you can tell he was fairly handsome in his youth. And why is it that whenever the blue observes an attractive trait, it's automatically attached to someone physically unattractive, but redpill claims aren't measured by how attractive they'd be on the most boring person possible, with no friends at all? You tell me, I don't subscribe to either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 03:29 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: what you think doesn't matter. Reality does not bend to your beliefs or your thoughts. At this point, I think anyone who still says women don't care about looks is just being difficult. Study after study shows that both genders prioritize looks first and foremost when looking for a potential partner. Here's just one of them for all the naysayers out there: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/attraction-evolved/201609/are-men-attracted-clever-women As f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 03:13 PM
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Not really convincing when the only examples they use are of good-looking, conventionally attractive people. Unless you're saying Lucy DeVito goes to bed every night dreaming about a 4 ft 10, bald, fat knight in shining armor coming to swoop her off her feet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 03:05 PM
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To put it bluntly, there is no age at which the dating and relationship game gets easier for men than it is for women. They always have the upper hand. This not due to male behavior however, but rather due to biology. In short, men need women, women do not need men. Women are perfectly capable of leading happy and fulfilling lives without us. Heck, some studies even say they're better off that way. The only reason women "needed" men throughout history was because they lived in a hostile, potenti…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/16 01:35 AM
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That's why men are more likely than women to just commit suicide after divorce, because they know the wife will move on with ease while he won't. I think it's more due to the latter than the former, but yes, that's true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:38 PM
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Except for the fact most of them don't actually want to, you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 06:34 PM
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Actually yeah, sex drive is largely a hormonal thing. The only other possibility is a brain or genetic condition that makes you more susceptible to testorenone, which again seems unlikely. I think you're just running your mouth tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/16 10:12 AM
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Because in order for that to be true, you would have to a) have as much testosterone as the average man (meaning about 20x more than the average woman), or b) have some other form of brain or hormonal problem that causes your sex drive to be exponentially higher above than that of the average woman. Both seem rather unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 01:25 PM
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It's about the same as most men I'd say, but I don't think you actually think about sex constantly or want it at least once a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 11:01 AM
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No, it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/16 12:12 AM
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Doesn't mean you're not lying. Though maybe not maliciously? You may THINK you have a high libido compared to most men, but trust me, you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 08:09 PM
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In come the braggarts, going on about how about how their supposed girlfriends are all nymphos. xD
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 07:47 PM
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There is this meme or circlejerk that hot looking guys can't be creepy and they can get away with anything. But this really isn't the case. If that's your thesis, it would help if you actually provided some actual evidence. As it stands, this entire thread is just you, a single woman (I presume), saying "no, hot guys can totally be considered creepy too!". I'm sorry, but talk is cheap, and that's all this thread is: talk. You haven't proven anything. Anyways, here's my two cents on the subject: …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 01:09 PM
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Minor sidenote, but do you know how incredibly rare that actually is? No, seriously, do you? A woman with higher libido than her male partner? And I mean, actually does have it, and doesn't just run her mouth about it? You have a better chance of winning the lottery than you have of finding a woman like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/16 10:07 AM
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I know I'm probably wasting my proverbial breath here, but try to see things from our perspective. In the sexual and relationship markets, men have no inherent value whatsoever. Zero, nada, zippo, zilch. We're the underdogs. You women, on the other hand, have your sexual consent. Female sexual consent is in very high demand, very short supply and it's something you get just by virtue of being born female. That means that if you take the average, 5/10 man and put him next to the average, 5/10 wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/16 03:21 PM
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For the record, I'm not a RPer. In fact, in keeping with our current theme of Pareto Principles, I'd say TRP is 80% rage-fueled nonsense and 20% potentially useful advice, if you can interpret it correctly. That being said, that is not why discussion of TRP or its principles is not allowed in polite society. One of the great modern taboos is that you are simply not allowed to criticize women or their behavior. And it's a taboo TRP breaks, frequently. That's why, even though I'm not a RPer myself…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/16 06:10 PM
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Perhaps you do. But the RPer who posted this thread clearly doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 11:05 PM
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What I meant is she doesn't do it because she wants to have sex with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:15 AM
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Once again, TRP's tendency to grossly oversimplify matters rears its ugly head. Yeah, there are a lot of women on the Internet complaining about how passive their husbands supposedly are. What they don't tell you is how almost every time their husband tried to initiate in the past, they said "no". See, men are people, not the mindless, unfeeling automatons their societal role all but requires them to be. That means they get discouraged, depressed, etc. After years of trying to initiate and getti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 10:13 AM
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Desperate to make this personal, aren't we? As for that study, can you repost it? The only two I saw you posted didn't really seem to help your case in any way. In fact, I'm kinda wondering why you even posted them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 06:01 PM
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No, you're talking about looks being the only thing that matters. No, I/the study the more attractive the man is, the more likely the woman is to say "yes" to him. Which runs DIRECTLY COUNTER to your notion that women prefer less attractive men. And again, your study was contradicted. No, it wasn't. Less supportive /= less happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 05:41 PM
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How do you figure out someone's real personality through first impressions? You can't, but we're not talking about personality. We're talking about looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:54 PM
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Yeah, but only one of them was somewhat relevant to the discussion we were having. Could you re-link it please? Again, when it comes to looks, first impressions are really all you need to make a judgement. If your assessment that women tend to prefer less attractive men was correct, women would've said "yes" to the less attractive men and "no" to the more attractive ones. They didn't, because you're wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 04:38 PM
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You didn't show me anything that disproved any of my points. The best you could produce was a study saying couples where the man was more attractive than the woman were less mutually supportive overall, which is still a huge stretch from your main point that women prefer less attractive men overall. Meanwhile, I gave you a study showing in no uncertain terms, clear as daylight, that the more attractive a man is, the more likely a woman is to say "yes" to him. And that, just like with men, women …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:50 PM
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He's playing a troubled young man, with out of control emotions, all over the map. It's a more realistic performance of what that means, than anything a Skywalker has ever done. Perhaps, but it makes for a very, very poor and un-intimidating antagonist. Also, his moodiness, his shame? Hot. That's right, the redpill is only half right. And completely full of shit when it claims to have fully mapped out the ways in which women can sexually objectify men. Don't know if I told you this, but I'm not …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:41 PM
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Wait, you actually liked Adam Driver's performance in the new SW movie? Well, I guess you can't argue with taste... I found it more cringeworthy than anything, but whatever. Look, the point remains you don't have to be an extremely good-looking or charming person to get a successful career in the media. Again, Jason Alexander was highly successful back in his day with Seinfeld, and I highly doubt you'd describe him as attractive. And yeah, Jason Alexander is way funnier and a much better actor t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:24 PM
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n and men, but you insist they excluded women's preferences and pulled something out of their ass, based on men's behavior. You're completely full of shit. When did I say that? I said that the more attractive the man was, the higher the likelihood a woman would say "yes" (which completely disproves your notion that women actually prefer less attractive men), and it's true. It's right there in the study. Again, what the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:19 PM
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What exactly are you trying to say here? That any man who can make a career in the media is automatically charming and social skillful, and therefore attractive? I suppose you think Jason Alexander is also a highly attractive men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:16 PM
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Again, what the fuck are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:08 PM
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What the fu...? You know neither Marilyn Manson nor Adam Driver are famous for being highly attractive? Or charming for that matter? What the fuck does how much money they earn have to do with anything we're discussing?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 03:03 PM
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we talk about men's attraction, that we don't measure women's attraction, no matter what the article says. It's a nonsensical reading, completely worth ignoring. What the fuck are you talking about? I just said that inferring that women prefer less attractive men due to men being overall less concerned about their own physical attractiveness, like the author of that article did, makes NO GODDAMN SENSE. And it doesn't. It's a complete non-sequitur. Also, yeah, the thread kinda sorta is about fema…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:48 PM
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Because all those things, charm, social skills, whatever... are deeply tied to your looks. The same exact action, when performed by an attractive person or an unattractive person, will be interpreted in a radically different way. Anything beyond a brief first impression. When it comes to judging someone's looks, what more do you need?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:46 PM
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If you can't even bother to read the links, you don't belong here. Then go whine to an admin about it. It's my experience that in places like this, whenever a female user complains, they're always very quick to act. As for the rest, that statement is in the study, but it's complete non-sequitur, here's the full quote: Guys, however, are less concerned with their own looks when deciding whom to date, the findings suggest. So while a man might have no qualms about going after someone much better l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:33 PM
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Incel shaming... nice. Also, I never said they were a happy couple, I said she was happy because she managed to snag someone out of her league. Provided of course, he's also earning more money than she is... I mean, that is most important factor when determining a woman's happiness in a marriage. Also, I don't see what the point of that second article is. What exactly am I supposed to infer from it exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 02:19 PM
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, your complete lack of experience counts against you, because of course it fucking does. We're not going to play the "My ignorance makes me wiser than thou." game. You realize that study in no way debunks what I said? In fact, in many ways, it actually supports it? First of all nowhere in it does it actually say women prefer to marry unattractive men. That's the title of the article, but nowhere in the study is that actually shown. The studies says the more attractive the women, the happier the…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:59 PM
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I don't need to "believe" anything, I know it. It's been demonstrated in more than one study. Also, I'm an shut-in incel who's only ever managed to get laid by laying down cold, hard cash, so my life story really doesn't matter much. And yes, I'm aware you're gonna use that as an excuse to dismiss anything I might say because I lack romantic experience, or whatever. Because apparently, if you're not romantically successful, you're not allowed to opine on anything related to romance. Have a good …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:42 PM
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No, those are the ones where the MAN is most unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 01:22 PM
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I don't really see how this debunks TRP's views of hypergamy, it's just one comment by one woman saying she isn't hypergamous. And you know the old saying, talk is cheap. I remember an article a while back where they interviewed the owner of a matchmaking service (anonymously, ofc) where she absolutely blasted her female clients. Saying they had completely unrealistic expectations, and it was impossible to find matches for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 10:06 AM
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First premise of this post: Women are the gatekeepers to sex and men are the gatekeepers to commitment. Unfortunately, that's a false premise. Women are most definitely the gatekeepers of sex, but as for men being the gatekeepers of commitment? It's way more complex than that. The other thing is that commitment is not inherently valuable to women the same way that sex is to men. What women really crave is status, and they only want commitment from a man if it'll help increase it. Think about it,…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 02:10 PM
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Women aren't stupid. If they're staying in what outwardly appears to be an abusive or dysfunctional relationship, they must have a motive. It's my experience that women often stay with abusive partners because of other traits they value about them. And no, it's not "gina tingles", or whatever... I mean just lol at that. It's usually more something along the lines of status, money, or because they consider him to be good breeding stock and want his DNA for their children. Or in layman's terms, be…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 01:44 PM
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Sure thing, Mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:49 AM
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Yeah, because it's not as if AM has ever hired women to create fake profiles, pose as users or leak fake stories about their exploits on their website. Oh, wait... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2s0wBjPbjk
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:42 AM
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Listen, you can believe me or disbelieve me, doesn't make any difference to me. I can assure you 100% there are real women on those sites. Do Ashley Madison and other similar sites make fake profiles? Absolutely. Are they full of 21 year-old supermodels? Nope. Are there attractive women on there willing to meet you? Sure thing, Mark... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8ifmSxhuBc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/16 12:34 AM
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Something weird happened to me just over a decade ago. I met a girl who was the epitome of the girl who is really popular at college. She was a cheerleader, and she had long, blonde hair, and, to be frank, massive tits. She was pretty stunning. To cut a long story short, she had a stereotypical jock boyfriend, who I must say had a quite fantastic physique and was way better looking than me. I also happen to know that he had an enormous penis; much bigger than mine, I assure you! But I ended up h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/16 11:45 PM
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I don't really think the parents are the ones to blame for the current state of affairs, nor do I think there's much they could do to change it. Even if they wanted to get involved, the dating marketplace today is so different and so much more darwinistic and lopsided in favor of females then it was back then. Like, 90% of what they know doesn't even apply anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:37 PM
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I'll be blunt here. If you only have girls, then by all means, do all that. I doubt it'll make that much of a difference, or hurt her that much in the long run. But if you have a boy, then please don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/16 05:24 PM
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Whenever I felt like it, so about once or twice a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 04:37 PM
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That's exactly what I'm saying, your "happiness" is determined by your expectations which are informed by your life experiences, meaning any objective measurement of the concept of happiness through qualitative surveys is literally impossible. So maybe you are right. Maybe men have lower expectations and so on, and it makes us [edit:] happier. Is that bad? If we are happy then I don't see why it's so bad. It is bad because it means men's life experience conditions them to have lower expectations…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:35 PM
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It's a perceived happiness, and it's subjective (qualitative) - which is why you need many answers to be able to draw any conclusions. A quantitative study would measure brain activity, but we don't have that technology. "Perceived" being the keyword here. Which ones would that be? Higher life expectancy, better healthcare, higher educational attainment, higher upward social mobility. Shall I go on? I think you're projecting quite a bit here. Would you really want to be a woman? It seems shitty …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:50 AM
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the form of: On a scale of 1 to 10; how happy would X make you? Where X is an experience. The questions needs to be adjusted for genders, o But again, how is happiness quantifiable exactly? How is 6/10 on the "happiness scale" different from a 5 or a 7? What is the metric? I know what a qualitative survey is, but when you use to try to measure a concept as abstract as happiness, it simply doesn't work. And to me at least, when you take into consideration that by every objective, measurable metri…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 11:24 AM
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Yet you still won't tell exactly how happiness can supposedly be quantified or measured. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:21 AM
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That's not what I meant and you know it. How did they determine that men were happier than women? Because men complained less about their lives than women did? Again, that's hardly surprising given the social stigma against men complaining about their situation. If you want to determine which gender truly has it better, you have to use more objective measurements. And by those objective measurements, women completely blow men out of the water.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:59 AM
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I do, but going back to my original post, how exactly is something like "happiness" quantifiable?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:49 AM
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I never had fantasies about raping anyone, but I had fantasies about being raped by an older woman ever since I was boy. Probably tmi, I know, but it honestly feels great to open up about this to someone after all these years.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:28 AM
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Perhaps you misunderstood my post. I don't actually believe men are "happier" than women, I'm simply stating that's what the statistics say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:14 AM
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Am a man, would honestly prefer to have been born a woman. By virtually every (objective) metric you can think of, women have it better than us. Oh, sure, statistics claim men are happier than women overall, but how quantifiable is that really? Even assuming they're correct, I think it's mostly down to men having much lower expectations than women. Plus there's the whole social stigma of men simply not being allowed to complain no matter the situation. I think a lot of men, especially here, will…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 01:00 AM
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