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| 9 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You? | Discussion | Familiar-Visual-5803 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 04:15 AM |
| 7 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human Nature | CMV | Familiar-Visual-5803 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 09:18 PM |
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| 27 | If it were truly about equality, why aren't feminists trying to make it so that the default awarding of primary physical custody is not always given to the woman?First: sorry you’re going through this man. That’s some grade A horse hockey. Let me know if you want to talk. That being said - Some people are about equality, some aren’t. Of those that are about equality, they’ll still do unequal things if equality means they won’t get what they want (I.e a woman that professes equality, then hoses over her ex husband in divorce court to not lose sole custody of her kids.) Moral of the story: people are vast and diverse. Do your best to avoid the ones that ar… | /r/MensRights | 23/05/23 04:07 AM |
| 2 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NaturePretty sure we’re good my dude. And my apologies if I came off as disrespectful. Matter of fact if you have a specific example of disrespect, let me know. It would be helpful for my future interactions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:31 AM |
| 1 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureMan, read over you comment history on this thread tomorrow. Respect from you was not part of the equation. Kindly stop acting like you were doing me a favor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:26 AM |
| 1 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureHomie, I thought you were done? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 03:21 AM |
| 1 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureHave a good night. For posterity, the first study he linked to was explaining that men were more likely to cheat in general, but women were specifically more interested in cheating with a man that had a partner. I’m sure as you can imagine, this opens up to a lot of personal opinion. The study did not state the wealth or attractiveness of the “attached” men, merely that they were in relationships. Which means it may very well not be hypergamy. It could be female-female competition, it could be a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 02:42 AM |
| 1 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureDude, you’re not here to make sense, you’re just here to argue. If there’s a specific part of the study that backs up what you’re saying, let me know. Link spamming is not evidence. It’s just a way to come off like your opinion’s educated when it isn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 02:15 AM |
| 1 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureSecond link: more sexually appealing people have more sexual partners? Well. That “proves” women are hypergamous. Burn ‘‘em at the stake. S/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 02:07 AM |
| 2 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureDude, you’re really not helping your own point here. First link: “Several studies have investigated whether men or women are more likely to engage in mate poaching; however, the results have been inconclusive. Some argue that men would be more likely to mate poach because men cheat more in general (e.g., Clark and Hatfield, 1989, Clark et al., 1999).” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 02:06 AM |
| 4 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureSure, that women are incapable of experiencing love to the same degree a man can. Think fidelity, sacrifice, things of that nature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 01:47 AM |
| 3 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureWhat TRP means does vary from person to person, but generally that women are incapable of the love men can give, naturally hypergamous, can only love stereotypical chad, so on and so forth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 01:45 AM |
| 2 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureKindly spare the sign language. Do you have any evidence against my points? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 01:43 AM |
| 4 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureAlright. Knowing my luck you’re going to move goalposts at the speed of light, but I’ll give it a shot anyway: What empirical evidence do you possess that TRP views on female psychology are correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 01:28 AM |
| 3 | TRP Dramatically Over Thinks Human NatureSex isn’t sacred, and I’m all about understanding the mechanics of things. However, when you have to shun any experience that isn’t in line with your hypothesis, the hypothesis needs work. Especially if you’re going to try to pin said hypothesis on something as fundamental as “female nature”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/22 01:02 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?That's...off topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 06:24 PM |
| 2 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?Yes, please, move that goal post even farther... There's men that clean and men that don't. There's women that clean and women that don't. The ability to clean really isn't a gendered issue. What can be the issue is if someone doesn't clean the way you like it. Though I'm sure you can regail me with horror stories about the messy men you and other women chose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 10:39 PM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?Former military here. Cleaning was a religion in the army. The army is men by majority. Your argument is invalid. lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 06:01 PM |
| 2 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?I'm not in the mind frame to try and convince you to do what I think is the right thing, and I really don't care enough to shame you for what I deem to be 'slimy' behavior. Thanks for the responses. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 07:00 AM |
| -2 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?I think you may be interpreting this an argument when it really isn't. Yep, I did use the lower earning / bean counting example in the post. However, the primary point was what value about fairness do you have that doesn't benefit you (i.e separating fairness with benefits me). And considering that in your reply you benefited from the arrangement (living in a nicer place, as an example) that still benefits you. Not a damn thing wrong with it, but one of the primary points was not necessarily con… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 06:43 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?Other times, it's better to keep your mouth shut I wasn't there so I can't say what happened, but if you lead someone on and use them for sex, that's selfish as that's hurtful to another person. And there's no moral high ground that nullifies hurting the other person because 'doesn't matter, got laid' is not a need, just a desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 06:38 AM |
| 0 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?My source is literally to just count the comments. So...what's the tally? "If I wanted to live at his income level, we could totally split bills. But that means having a much cheaper house, which means my wealth won’t be increasing at the rate a house I can afford would." So the answer the question in my post is no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 06:28 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?I agree with both of those. For the second point, why do you hold that view? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 06:13 AM |
| -4 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?Most of the women saying that in the other thread said they were higher income, actually. Source? And please don't just leave a link to the post, because then we're gonna have to count the responses of less earning to more earning, and that's tedious. As for the one offs that do make more and see 50/50 as "bean counting" did they ever open up as to why that is? "Kind of like if you have a sports team and one person gets a benefit like he can throw farther or something, the whole team would benef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 06:11 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?I mean I could go full nihilism and say that morality is inherently subjective. So whatever you deem wrong and whatever I deem wrong are equally valid in terms of "rightness". But from my personal moral compass, you're exhibiting what I call reddit morality. If you didn't hyperbolically breach a watertight contract written in Jesus' blood, you did no wrong. " My friends are not entitled to my time" But before I can specifically state if I think you did something wrong I'd have to understand how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 06:04 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?So, ultimately, because you have a history of getting away with it / consequences not applying to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:39 AM |
| 2 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?I am selfish. How would it hurt me? Social compliance principle. I.E if someone's selfish, other people may, at best not want to help you, at worst would proactively seek retribution for that behavior. Or burnt bridges principle. Say you're selfish in a relationship and get away with it, temporarily. But your partners leaves you, you leave for someone else, whatever. Essentially all that time and effort was sunk into someone just for it to disappear, and you have to start all over again with som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:33 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?For the first, just think it’s the most fair. I can respect that. Why does it being the most fair matter to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:28 AM |
| 0 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?I don't think it makes sense to strive for fairness just for the sake of it. Eh, kind of what I was afraid of. Ideally someone would strive for fairness because someone being treated unfairly would make them, at the very least, uncomfortable. Now, that is another way of advocating for fairness benefiting themselves, but it's intrinsic vs. extrinsic. Ideally, you'd want someone to marry you because they intrinsically love you, not because they can extrinsically get things they like out of you. Ed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:26 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?If you mean you're too selfish, has that selfishness benefited or hurt you? If by others being too selfish: do you think that's helped or hurt those people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:23 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?Yep. Those seem solid. Any reason why you hold those values? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?"and as I've said I believe they benefit everyone in the long run even if initially we have some losses." So part (not all) of the desire stems from self benefit. If I help other people, in the long run, it helps everyone (including me). I feel like that part (again, not all) actively works against the point I asked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:15 AM |
| 1 | What's A Relational Value That You Have That Doesn't Benefit You?Those are some pretty solid points. From my anecdotal (and therefore meaningless) experience, these kind of values really aren't talked much about. So: Why do you hold these values, even if they don't benefit you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:11 AM |
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