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Why would a redpill guy be driving to his exes house?
/r/TheRedPill30/12/17 07:35 PM
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How can you get over your past sexual behaviour? In my opinion, you have already started the process. You realise there is a problem, you realise it comes from your own feelings. You are already a lot further than you realise! It will take time and energy to find your new way of being, and to accept the past and start looking to the future. For now, I think all you can do is work on making your life into a life you love, and learning more about yourself and what you like, do things that embrace …
/r/RedPillWomen30/12/17 07:00 PM
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Even so, the fact that some bits survived to the point of your bra strap, that means with love and care and lots of moisturise treatments, you have the potential to have a LOT of hair! People's hair strands normally die and fall out after a certain length and that determines your maximum hair length, if that makes sense, so you have the option of having fairly long hair if you are interested. I'm glad you enjoy your skincare, it's a good cycle to be in :) Aw :( poor you. That sounds like that me…
/r/RedPillWomen29/12/17 09:03 PM
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Hi. Just to say, well done on having long, Afro textured hair, that's pretty impressive, it means your hair is strong, even if it is currently damaged, if it has managed to get longish even without being looked after. I would say my top tip for not looking tomboyish is putting effort into your hair; that shows long term, and is a major thing people notice about your appearance. Afro hair can be really beautiful and needs a lot of maintenance, but there are a lot of communities with resources for…
/r/RedPillWomen27/12/17 07:45 PM
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I want to upvote your point about how much construction workers make because those trades are hugely undervalued, but I disagree about men and women being so fundamentally different, so I won't. Also though, women are hugely over represented in low paying, difficult or even gross work like care work, (primary age) teaching, nursing. Washing butts and cleaning up bodily fluids and working with people and all their problems and bad hygiene etc isn't exactly fun and easy and glamorous, but it is st…
/r/TheRedPill16/11/17 09:35 PM
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Actually I researched that 10% figure and that's from the Femithiest, a satirical character from this blog:http://www.donotlink.com/framed?521598 (Found via this vice article: http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/is-reducing-the-male-population-by-90-percent-the-solution-to-all-our-problems) Just thought you ought to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/15 07:38 AM
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Thank you for your response, sorry I didn't reply, it only just came through now. Sorry, I'm new to this, where's more about the stuff about the Machiavellian survival blueprint? Who's work is that from? I can see the internal consistency of what you're saying though and how it coincides with anecdotal evidence. So would you say that because society lacks a positive identity for men, and because they are not like women (pragmatic and ruthless), they become rudderless and disengaged, as opposed t…
/r/TheRedPill28/10/15 07:28 AM
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How is this a false equivalence? If you're arguing, you're probably emotional, and if you're emotional, you're probably not making rational decisions, and that includes the decision to use confidential information. That's a dumb as fuck decision which undermines the relationship she's fighting for even more, because it shows that she's prepared to use the trust from it against him. (Sorry for the late reply).
/r/TheRedPill28/10/15 07:18 AM
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TIL that someone saying you're not emotionally mature enough to raise someone else's kid is an UNFORGIVABLE SHAMING TACTIC. is it really redpill to care what people think of you? I'm asking this seriously.
/r/TheRedPill18/10/15 05:04 PM
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People say dumb stuff when they are hurt...haven't you ever said anything dumb when you're angry? That said, it's mean as fuck. Minus the hindsight goggles, why did you break up with her? Like, maybe if it was out of the blue, this emotional ammo use might make some sense.
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 10:18 PM
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If it is a gender war, it's right that it makes no sense to open up. First, the gender war must end, or everyone must remember there's a war on at all times. How do ceasefires start?
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 10:17 PM
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That's really depressing. I must still be plugged in. Would you ever try to teach your daughter how to be different, or do you think that it's better that women are like this?
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 10:15 PM
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But what person really wants to see someone in their work-shop of life? (Or therapists or life-coach's chair for that matter) Only someone who wants to date a vulnerable person and exploit them. And depending on your opinion of how different men are from women, that could be considerably more unnattractive for women than it is for men... let me know your thoughts on this..
/r/TheRedPill02/10/15 10:13 PM
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Depending on how you broke up with her, that could go either way. Either you dumped her, and you still care enough to bang someone who looks identical to her, so she'll still be getting attention from you and be confused and get maybe some kind of ego boost,bor she dumped you, and will either be furious at you still getting to bang her likeness, or feel like it proves you still care about her, see above, depending on her attitudes towards her sexual marketplace value. A girl who is more prudish …
/r/MGTOW21/09/15 05:04 PM
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Hey, I know that feeling, but I came from it from a different side... Genders act differently. Movies massively over-simplify and endorse it, and when you realise they are doing this it's sickening. When you realise how people are just acting out these stereotypes, it's incredibly depressing. All you can do is refuse to act out the stereotype. And believe that if you can manage that, other people will be able to too. But generally, most people are conformist, so be prepared to stand out a little…
/r/RedPillWomen25/07/15 08:57 PM
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So, from your step father and your step brother... that is not "first hand" by definition, but second hand. No asking for a "source", just wondering where your response was coming from, burden of proof and all. Do you mind telling me more about your step father and step brother's situation, out of interest?
/r/TheRedPill22/07/15 04:46 PM
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Did you not read what I said? Does the english system sound that bad to you from what I said?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/15 01:29 PM
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I know. Just err on the side of caution with service workers in general, that's all. They are paid to look smiley, and we can't afford to forget that, especially when it's been proven that we overestimate reciprocal attraction when we ourselves find the other party attractive: http://www.decodedscience.com/attractive-men-overrate-womens-interest/7928
/r/TheRedPill13/07/15 12:20 PM
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Well done for going out and having fun. I'd warn against thinking that the bartender was interested though, often that's a tip game, and I've heard a lot of bartenders, all genders, really hate when customers think they are into them. But enjoying meeting new people in and of itself is really good.
/r/TheRedPill12/07/15 10:43 AM
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Source? That seems like a ludicrous system, that's not how it's done in the UK. My friend is on benefits, and his ex gf refused to put his name on the birth certificate, because he would only be able to give £7 a week, and she didn't want him in her life or the babies. He's fighting to see the baby more, but honestly, I think he should just give up whilst he still can get out. Edit: For the record, the baby is being provided for by the ex gf, who is working part time, and her mother. Also, obvio…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/15 11:03 AM
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Wishing you the best of luck man, seriously.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:14 PM
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I absolutely agree. Either you've got to break out of the system, or the system breaks you.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:14 PM
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Do you believe that everyone could be an independent worker? Or is it a wheat from the chaff situation, that only the strong will manage it? Plus, what happens when your project grows? Do you hire people in turn to work hard for little money, or what?
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:13 PM
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I'm guessing this would be the MGTOW approach to this allegory...
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:11 PM
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Yeah I didn't ask for a lecture on job seeking man. Also, all jobs are unique, like marriages (imo). Not all are of the same quality. Some will like the mindless ones, and some will look for a deeper meaningful connection, i.e like people who want a beta and people who want an alpha, passing the shit test is merely an indicator of who you are.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:09 PM
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As I can see from the fact some one has attached a lot of value and bonded with the product of his sperm, it is no longer just sperm. But at the point where someone is like "hey i'm pregnant and also please go away"...it's just sperm. You should get out then, before you invest in something that someone else is already invested in through the process of bringing it into the world. She will have a head start from day one. But surely you can just be like...I don't want parental rights, so no? I gue…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:06 PM
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That's why I said traditional marriage, where the traditional woman rears children and manages the home domain in return for the economic activity and status upgrade of the traditional man. Most people today don't want that arrangement, so it wouldn't always work out like that. If someone wants to get traditional stuff from their spouse, they should be prepared to give traditional stuff. However, most people don't want that, they want a more relaxed mix, the sucess of which is frequently debated…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 09:02 PM
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That really wasn't the point at all. The relationship between a worker and an employer isn't necessarily divided by gender or sex. Though I agree that being independent seems like a more satisfying free way to be. To chose the lying-through-your-teeth fitting-in-the-clique method would require clinging to something that will never make anyone truly happy.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/15 08:59 PM
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Why? because it's all a corporate rat race and soul crushing because you lose all your individuality and agency? Sounds a lot like a traditional marriage...
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 03:13 PM
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In this case, wouldn't your best bet be to ask to opt out of contact and payments? If they aren't letting you contact them nicely, it might be better just give up. It is just sperm at the end of the day.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/15 03:07 PM
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Is this okcupid source you were talking about? Please don't be put off by the biased tagline, the data in it is still up for interpretation, I just thought it would be useful to provide for people to look at themselves. http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-case-for-an-older-woman/
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 09:35 PM
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warning long post: got a bit into the theory of AFBB well yeah like i said, it's not a double standard because women can get pregnant, which is why you get examples from the animal kingdom, but you can't use that as the reason alone, because there are polyamorous animals (bonobos) and animals in which males fuse and become sperm providers to the female animals (angler fish)...which we don't want to do. women CAN get pregnant which is why it's not a double standard. this is also why AFBB fits so …
/r/TheRedPill22/06/15 09:07 PM
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Downvote me lots, idc, I'm just doing some thinking here. So you don't want her, because she's okay with having slept with lots of men. So you'll sleep with her, and move on, adding to her number. Doesn't this sound like a never-ending spiral for a woman? She meets someone, and gets demoted to sex-toy, and becomes even more likely in future to be a sex toy, until she meets someone who will not demote her, because they don't have the same standards for commitment. So in this case, her best-case s…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/15 08:40 PM
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Well then you might want to look into asking and looking for different relationships then. That's okay. It will be far better and easier than trying to do something that you don't naturally experience and other people do. Good luck, you're still okay.
/r/TheRedPill03/06/15 02:16 PM
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But I truly love other people, don't you? Can we not use the truth of our own experiences to validate the possibility that others might feel the same way? I mean if romantic love isn't something you feel it doesn't mean that other people don't feel it. But if you don't feel romantic love then a friends-with-benefits situation would be better in order to get what you want from other people without having to fake it or manipulate it, which is perfectly okay. You shouldn't have to pretend that roma…
/r/TheRedPill10/05/15 09:04 PM
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I think you should mid, it shows respect for your own tastes and preferences and styles; if you're coerced into changing for someone, then it shows that you don't really like yourself, because you'll sell yourself out for "love"... Plus, someone who does that to you would never really love you, because you'd be someone who they created, and not your own person any more.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/15 10:33 AM
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But surely if someone did this to someone, they'd see it? Like, if a new woman in your life started gifting you clothes, and making you exercise, get your hair cut, and tried to spin it like she was spoiling you, how would you feel? Personally, I'd feel a little insulted, and I think I'd rather be on my own than that. The sex wouldn't be good if all I felt was insecure about them wanting me to be someone else; it would be mechanical.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/15 03:49 PM
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source: take it or leave it...do men not react using their emotions? just in different flavours (anger) to women (more likely "upset")... I mean that's just what I've got from MY life, idk about what you've got from YOURS.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/15 09:17 PM
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I think you're severely over-estimating how much you can genuinely change a person, without resorting to emotional abuse. Well then, which is it? I personally would prefer the pretty man, all things considered. But I'm attracted to men.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/15 08:32 PM
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I guess hostlity would be more like frustration; so, being irritable, but not downright shouting. And I'd argue it is an emotional reaction actually, because it's like, I'm so emotional right now I can't and won't even express it to you. Though you could argue that they are all forms of anger, but then we get tied up in definitions of emotions, and that's tricky. Regardless, men are emotively driven just as much as women, only they often express it differently.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/15 08:04 PM
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Yep that works. But men's emotes are stuff we don't recognise as "emotional", like anger, hostility, silent treatment. These are all also emotions.
/r/TheRedPill08/04/15 11:05 PM
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hi...if the only people who wanted to fuck you were plain women who thought you were a god and would get over attached and possessive if you slept with them, or hot women who would fuck literally anyone and do it really badly not caring whether you had a really rubbish time (oh and then hate you for having so little respect for yourself you dirty worm) would you realllllyyyyy rather do that than wait around for a relationship?
/r/TheRedPill08/04/15 10:00 PM
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*until the lines of gender are completely erased, people forced to treat eachother like individuals instead. So, legally, there can be no gender distinction. People who cling to sexism (and I mean that with the least possible stigma) will be frustrated at the complexity of this new system which they will feel doesn't fit with the natural order of dating and relationships there will be a huge rise in people opting out of the dating world people who are already sexist will be pushed further into t…
/r/TheRedPill08/04/15 09:49 PM
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whereas all of your reactions are totally 100% legitimate and appropriate...but who's legitimising them? You? What a weird coincidence...you...think that your emotions...are more legitimate...that women's emotions...the people who you think are stupid and you wish would shut up...weird
/r/TheRedPill08/04/15 09:30 PM
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Tbh, you wrote EVERYTHING EVER in that poster, it's very in-depth.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:21 PM
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Surely every individual can offer an entirely unique combination? So, many women can offer vaginas, but you, the individual woman, can offer that plus yourself... If you were married, and the wife only wanted you because you could offer penis, would you feel secure in that marriage? Would it be worth it? No, so monogamous relationships make no sense if all genital-owners of the same kind are equal.
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 10:35 PM
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I think that if you don't make it crystal clear what you want, both parties can fool themselves into thinking that the other party absolutely doesn't want sex/will want sex, depending on what they themselves want. I think moving on in this case is definitely better
/r/TheRedPill23/02/15 10:25 PM
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And we wonder why men die earlier... This shit doesn't help! Look after yourself man, what use are you to anyone if you're dying prematurely cos you're "toughing it out"? Value your life bro!
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 11:49 PM
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This is really good positive exercise/drive advice :) thanks for the motivation :D Also, remember that people with higher testosterone levels have lowered immune systems, it's been proven... So it's harder to stay healthy Don't really see that it needed gendering though, but whatever works for you _^
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 11:33 PM
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Are you not trading attention and sex? As it is, it doesn't really sound like it took a huge amount of interest or intrigue I.e attention from OP, so ineffective trade for the woman, surely? Especially if her experienced physical skill was high. Or is there something more complex to the value of sex I'm missing?
/r/TheRedPill18/02/15 11:22 PM
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I don't think that people are saying he used the RedPill, I think they are criticising the way of thinking, i.e that having game and attracting the attention women is a skill and that male virgins are therefore losers who need to changer their behaviours. He perhaps wouldn't have felt so hopeless if there were less people saying that his lack of girlfriend was a reflection of him, and more people saying that women are only human.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 07:34 PM
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Perhaps not treating them as if they are something to be pitied or hated would help? Perhaps not treating women as tools to relieve a man of virginity would help not make them into either impossible godesses or hateful sluts to be destroyed?
/r/PussyPass25/05/14 07:09 PM
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I'm not going to lie, is there not a chance that that study, done by a man, was biased?
/r/PussyPass25/05/14 06:57 PM
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Okay.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:53 PM
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Yes I am projecting anger instead of understanding, in other news the world does not revolve around redditor Arn13 and people understanding them. Perhaps I wanted you to understand me? Perhaps your false equivalencies angered me? Perhaps the innacuracy of hearing male power described as a "myth" angered me? Warren Farrell has this magical quality of bringing the message in such a way that some women can look past their anger Perhaps your ridiculously patronising "emotional confused women and a s…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 03:42 PM
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How come the body positivity movement started? Feminism. And a lot of alleviating the pressure is about telling people not to body-shame, and to be proud of non-conventional attractiveness. It's not efficient to tell people not to care about attractiveness, same way it's not efficient to tell people to not care about emotional strength. If men need a similar movement to bring them out of the fifties, who's it up to? cough cough men's rights cough cough. (When I told guys that my boyfriend had cr…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 03:32 PM
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Can you not just tell me the gist? I've not read any books about feminism, only journalistic articles. And also, how are you going to convince me it's not just a biased misogynistic way of attacking feminism. Also, fucking myth my ass. Could females please be massively over represented in government, all the highest paying jobs and the most influential film studios thanks, and then can you please listen to us while we insist that the idea of female power is an utter myth? Can you do that whilst …
/r/MensRights09/12/13 03:20 PM
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Anyone hearing me complaining and asking for more constructive debates? ...? ...? Anyone? No? Good, now stop assuming what I want. Yes I would believe it that you are mocked sometimes for pointing out men's feelings in some situations. "The world revolves around you"... My point was, that men are hurting too is irrelevant. Is it not enough that women are hurting from something? You've just invalidated an entire gender's concerns, simply because it's not your gender. I call that quite self-center…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 03:09 PM
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Sorry, I mis-worded that, it should be: The only way we can overcome these gendered social norms Because whilst they are socially constructed, they still have an effect on our lives, they are still real to us in our society, if you can understand that. (Same way race is a social construct, but this doesn't mean people aren't affected by race/racial distinctions.) Your gay friend clearly feels these social pressures too then, I guess social conditioning is the same for all people, gay or straight…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 02:50 PM
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Right, the solution is to speak to the people who don't need my perspective. Thanks, I'll be on my way thanks I didn't mean to be here at all I got here by accident thank you kind man for sending me on my way. /s It hurts to hear that? Oh noes! Poor you! She definitely shouldn't have told you it then, if it's something that reflects badly on your gender! I mean, ignorance is bliss right? Or are you saying that she made it up, cos the world revolves around you? Because either you don't want to he…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 02:23 PM
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I think we can change how we value attractiveness actually. I think a lot of what we find attractive is dictated by social norms, think changing standards of beauty over time historically. There is a theory that the reason why women are attracted to personality and men are attracted is because society trains us to see men as people and women as objects. It may be useful to see how homosexual couples are attracted to each other...not all gay couples are ravishingly beautiful young men, and not al…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 02:11 PM
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Yes.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 01:59 PM
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You used "mangina" as an insult. You clearly don't understand how damaging gender roles are for freedom and personal liberty. I officially give up on Men's Rights subreddit. Well done. You've done it. You can all go home now with your gender binary and your hatred and think about what you really want, because if you still think that the genders are totally seperate and different then you're never going to treat them as equals, liberty is not your goal.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 02:34 PM
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http://25.media.tumblr.com/f84746926d86c691f80a03f452cda8c1/tumblr_ml9fizqmdD1rrcahvo5_r1_250.gif *Are you fucking surprised women would hate men?
/r/MensRights08/12/13 12:57 PM
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For years feminists wanted women to be equal to men, to be able to go to work like men, to be able to wear trousers like men, have sex like men. Now we say that maybe men aren't perfect and masculinity isn't a perfect ideal. Now we say that gender roles are both kind of rubbish. The traditionally feminine, the traditionally masculine. Theiy're both rubbish, unless we realise that we're never going to get equality.
/r/MensRights08/12/13 12:46 PM
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Sorry, I thought I searched for it, nevermind. Why is it hate propaganda?
/r/MensRights08/12/13 12:20 PM
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4 Hours of television in which I will see men cast in speaking main roles and not cast simply as the love interest and the eye candy? Television in which the men are portrayed as either buffoons who need women to do everything for them, or heroes who need to do everything for society/their family? I know what you mean, I've been on TV Tropes, I media criticise everything I watch for bias-ing and gender roles, don't tell me I don't know about how western civilisation views masculinity. #LadCultur…
/r/MensRights07/12/13 11:21 PM
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I think ideas of masculinity and femininity are both fucked up and toxic, but there is more pride in masculinity than there is in femininity, women are allowed to be masculine, but men are not allowed to be at all feminine. It's not demonising a gender, it's demonising a gender norm, a social construct that places pressure on individuals to act in ways that may not be in their best interests or others around them. Worse than racism how? White people are a minority worldwide, more people suffer a…
/r/MensRights06/12/13 11:09 PM
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I didn't ask a question there...I said that society had a fucked up way of looking at relationships and dominance and masculinity, which idk, maybe that filters through to the people you've experienced this judgement by.
/r/MensRights06/12/13 10:58 PM
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I'm saying it's about the idea our society has that dominant = masculine idea, and that masculine in that way = attractiveness. Which is a very narrow way at looking at the enormously wide spectrum of attractiveness in real life human beings. And I'm hardly going to dump a guy I was attracted enough to want to sleep with who wants to sleep with me too because of the size of his genitals. Would you? Also, sex is so much more than phalluses, seriously. Fingers and mouths will do a lot if you try.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:13 PM
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I don't. Am I not valid?
/r/MensRights05/12/13 04:00 PM
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You didn't answer my question. Does feminism claim that men are generally privileged over women? I answered about society. So there's no situation in which being a man is a net negative? A situation yeah sure, but I was talking about overall. Let's not go into oppression and privilege, it's easier to keep it simple, we won't agree on it. But privilege =/= a better life, it means an easier life overall for the population with privilege on the whole, it's a way of admitting life is easier if you a…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:49 AM
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So you disagree? Men do not have a part in shaming men for not upholding traditional standards of masculinity?
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:36 AM
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Sex sells. Full stop. Objectification turning both ways isn't progress, it's just capitalism finding more different ways to profit.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 10:59 AM
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Creepy is subjective. Perhaps strange men who women don't know are seen as creepy by them, perhaps strange women who men don't know are not seen as creepy. It's to do with percieved threat, not necessarily real threat. How else can we convey this?
/r/MensRights04/12/13 06:30 PM
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Thanks, such science, so explained, wow. Yes it's from your brain, it's a subjective concept. It's still valid to you. That's why P. C is needed, because you shouldn't disrespect others whether you think you are or not, whether it's hard or not, because they are just as important as you are, and you could act in a way that treats everyone fairly, or you could act as if you are separate from the centuries of oppression and slavery that built this society. In a situation that could end in a strang…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 03:55 PM
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I liked your comment, but I just felt you should know that actual libido for men and women is the same, it's fear and how we are socialised that mean men are seen as having higher libidos. I think the use of the word creepy in this more casual sense is used because fear and self protection mean women err on the side of caution with a new man. It doesn't work the other way because we assume men cannot be sexually abused, that a woman wouldn't sexually abuse a man, that women don't have violent ur…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 03:45 PM
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and also reinforces the idea that it is better to be a man I meant, there is no female equivalent to man up. could go into more language analysis, but this is a pretty good place to start. But not collectively Well no, there are people who massively benefit from being male, especially at the top end. At the lower end the only benefits are small and almost insignificant marks of respect that we don't notice we're doing, if you speak to trans men. Why do you keep finding feminists who say that? I …
/r/MensRights04/12/13 03:30 PM
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Did you know, the average length of a vagina? It's 4-5 inches. It's not actually necessarily comfortable to have a penis double that length inside a vagina. How often have you come across women shaming you for the actual size of your penis? How often have people implied that you have a small penis, equating size to power or dominance? This may not be an attractiveness matter at all, as by the time you are seeing genitals, surely you have done some attracting already? The height thing is bad, we …
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:50 AM
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No. No you are wrong. The patriarchy isn't something that oppresses us because we are helpless victims, the patriarchy is something that tells us we are. The patriarchy has women as property, the patriarchy has women as weak, the patriarchy says we cannot sexually abuse men, the patriarchy says we aren't strong enough for war. Women did not build these governments. Men did. Now we bring them down, now we reject these ideas, now we liberate ourselves from being property to being people, now we sa…
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:34 AM
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Also with his mouth on her boob instead of in the same foreheads-touching-cute-emotionally-bonded pose? It brings down the tone of the comic, and brings in a sexual element that isn't present with the other image, it's not exactly pure love.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 08:17 AM
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"My interpretation of my movement". Well, I didn't define "your interpretation", I defined my own. And who are you kidding, exactly, by saying "my movement"? Unless you are over a century old, I'd say this movement predates you. It's my movement, as in I belong to it, and okay fine, but my interpretation of what the movement does is just as valid if not more so than yours, because I am a part of it. To elaborate on my interpretation: there is a gigantic difference between what feminists say femi…
/r/MensRights03/12/13 05:27 PM
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I guess I agree with what you said. And tbh, the point that we are individuals means we could cope with one gender remaining on the planet, we are not ruled by our biology, and a single gender society could adjust and survive. i.e women would do "dirty" jobs.
/r/MensRights03/12/13 04:44 PM
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A cage is not defined as "something with bars". But whatever, you're taking us off topic. I think an important question to be asking is why it is that only women falsely accuse people of rape. It's because women are viewed in law as victims, but not only that, it's because men aren't. We need to work on teaching and accepting the idea that men can be victims, in order to make the playing field more even. Playing games in court is never going to acheive this, in fact it accepts this power imbalan…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:52 PM
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My point was, that tumblr feminism is mostly about women, not men, surprise surprise the clue was in the name. It's not about women over men, or women instead of men, it's not about men. What you said about the societal effects of a world without men is kind of ridiculous, the gender differences we see today are partly socialised into us, and the natural differences are far less than they are portrayed to be, we are not as gender dimorphic as society makes us out to be, we are certainly not so g…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 08:41 PM
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I'm saying that you can grow a mustache and be disrespectful about it (find it amusing, make money out of doing it) or you can grow a mustache and be mindful to make sure you aren't being disrespectful about it. -Um, hours of research sounds excessive, I should think just being open to listening to the opinions of those to whom moustaches are a genuine part of their life/culture should help you not be a disrespectful douchebag about it. And avoiding making money out of something and dressing up …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:50 PM
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I'm sure my good sir, I don't need to point out to you that your response sounds remarkably similar to things said about the introduction of women to the workforce in 1940's England to help with the war effort. Rosie the Riveter ring any bells?
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:20 PM
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Thanks for defining my interpretation of my movement for me, I mean, I thought it was now about dismantling the rigid gender norms to promote social equality and invididual freedom of choice, based on the idea that the arbitary gender differences assigned to us by the male-based governments of the past were designed to promote masculinity over femininity in order to keep women subservient, despite this often back-firing on actual men outside of positions of power. But hey, you know best. Clearly…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:10 PM
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*I do not live with my mother, but I owe her and myself a duty of protection, apparently, and also so do other women live under these self imposed rules to, it's a way of attempting to take control. "bad decisions" = not taking control. The government is more men than women still, right? Cool. Just checking. Actually I do worry about being struck by lightning, though I'm sure I wouldn't be told off for acting in a way that allowed the lightning to use me as a conductor, and I wouldn't blame the …
/r/MensRights02/12/13 04:00 PM
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Er, yes it is, when it comes to where you can go, when it gives you a curfew and polices what you can wear and how you live your entire life. But you know, matter of opinion, you can either trust me and my experience or you can minimise it because obviously you know better about what does and what doesn't constitute a threat to what I view as my personal liberty. The statistics are skewed, because rape against men isn't seen as legitimate, and men are therefore discouraged from reporting it. Als…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 01:17 AM
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No I didn't, I said that you were calling people in general rapists. Anyway, cool, I think I can agree with most of what you're saying, I doubt we can go much further with this. If you want more of my kind of attitude, check out this article, this person writes what I'm thinking amazingly well, but it is long, so don't feel obliged to read it. http://blackgirlsguidetoweightloss.com/the-op-eds/what-a-victim-blaming-world-looks-like-to-a-victim/
/r/MensRights02/12/13 01:07 AM
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So so sorry that I'm not a male so my opinion on privilege doesn't mean anything, despite being white, thin, conventionally attractive, able-bodied, neurotypical, heterosexual, cissexual, loosely christian and middle-class, and therefore incredibly priviledged. I'm incredibly aware of this, but none of that counts, because I'm a woman, and therefore only aware of it so that I can "claim" oppression as part of a systematically oppressed group. smh. (Also, privilege isn't about guilt, it's about b…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:56 AM
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You can try growing a mustache (or dreadlocks), if you want, and you don't have to understand the colonial roots of trying on other cultures, disrespecting them and treating them as a joke, and then walking away from them and leaving the people who belong to them with a stigma that they had no part in making. Many many people disapprove of the gender normative and sexualised activism related to Breast Cancer Awareness. Don't use it as an example of great activism. It's gender norms, people shoul…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:46 AM
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Yeah, we're all about those men, seriously, we need them around to focus our lives on bringing them down, how would we function without men to concentrate on? Oh wait it's not the fifties, we couldn't care less about men, and we can cope without them. Other than when it comes up in the gender binary and how the "two" genders have their own opposing and damaging gender norms. Rarely do we go out of our way to care about what other activist groups are doing or thinking of us, mostly we focus on th…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:33 AM
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I guess the word is used as if to say, when someone knows they are not that attractive, it's awkward and rude to act as if they are and come on to someone regardless? But idk, I guess it is still a strong word if it's used in relation to socially inappropriate men on the same level as pedophiles and perverts. I guess stronger words are used on pedophiles etc now though, it would be a massive understatement to call them merely "creepy". Interesting points made about the gendering of personality v…
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:23 AM
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Strongly advise against that, there is still a legitimate use of the word creep that you do not want to get mixed up in.
/r/MensRights02/12/13 12:12 AM
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Okay, obviously you didn't get my attempt at treating you like you were being overemotional when it was a valid response. And prison is a not a cage in the literal sense, it is a room normally, so yeah. And I repeat, I never said it wasn't cruel to the person you were alleging against. You really don't have to be all dramatic, it's wasted on me, you are preaching to the choir. I'm actually a member of Howard League for Penal Reform, I get that prison and unjust prison is a terrible thing. Howeve…
/r/MensRights01/12/13 11:42 AM
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*prison. Not cage, let's not be overemotional and dramatic here. I never said it wasn't cruel to the person you were alleging against, that's kind of inherent, that's the mission objective in a false allegation, if it wasn't harmful then we wouldn't be talking about it because it wouldn't be an issue. It just has other victims beyond that, whereas claiming some-one stole something from you, or tried to murder you, doesn't.
/r/MensRights30/11/13 03:03 PM
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That's more and not as many as I take, all at once. Less everyday stuff though. Thank you, that's so empowering, so I and I alone can stop rape you say? Great! ...oh wait, what? I can only lower the chances, of me, as an individual, being raped by a stranger/accquaintance, and only if I'm super aware, and judge people on being male, and act paranoid and sometimes rude? Okayyyy... but people will understand that I have to do what I have to do to protect myself right? They won't shame me for not g…
/r/MensRights30/11/13 02:49 PM
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I'm 19, the person who says my freedom is limited in these ways is my mother, because she believes I won't be safe if I act in another way, she worries I will come to bodily harm for acting in the wrong way. We may not live in Saudi Arabia, but that doesn't mean that women are totally free and safe in the UK/western world to act as we please without fear of retribution. Also, a woman who doesn't follow those sensible rules of self protection, and refuses to play the game, is asking for trouble, …
/r/MensRights30/11/13 02:08 PM
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All rapes are preventable by the perpetrator though, innit. You know what else can influence the kind of risk that people experience? The people presenting that risk. 2 pt 2. The serial killer is uncomparable to a serial rapist. First, because murders/missing people are pretty much always reported (because there is minimal stigma attached to being a victim of murder, as opposed to being a victim of rape, when you are accused of having a victim mentality and not understanding the situation and no…
/r/MensRights30/11/13 01:46 PM
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Crime vs. torture and long lasting psychological harm that is utterly needless and selfish and cruel. There's a difference between protecting yourself, and living in a war zone. Tell me good sir, what steps do YOU take to protect yourself from sexual violence? I personally am not allowed to go outside in the dark on my own, I'm discouraged from hanging out with too many male friends on my own, I'm discouraged from hanging out with male friends who I don't want to sexually interact with on my own…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:33 AM
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Could have done something to prevent it. Okay, well, I'll try and assault and violate you, and you try and prevent it, okay? I'll put my all into trying to catch you when you're vulnerable, I'll ply you with alcohol, I'll make you feel guilty and bad for not trusting me, I'll use your willingness to look polite to my advantage, I'll make it so all the witnesses see that you are having a good time, and I'll do it. Do you really think that the rapist here is easily preventable? Y "What on earth we…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 10:18 AM
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And that's a problem. Male rape is stupidly under-reported (i think it is far lower anyway, but obviously, it's hard to tell, but it is under-reported for sure) because men are accused of failing as men if they do not want sex at all times, and the idea of a man not consenting is seen as ridiculous, the idea of a man not being able to fight off a woman is seen as ridiculous. The same rules that make men get falsely accused yet protect real rapists (it's in their nature, men are sexual animals [t…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 09:40 AM
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But for every virgin being falsely accused, there's someone like Eeeevil Man saying "don't obtain consent, they might say no" and not even admitting that it's rape. The false allegation rate is only 2.5%, same as for all other crimes, but there's nowhere near as much discussion about other false allegations. The solutions being offered here are about legally winning, are we not wondering why all these allegations are being made against people? Maybe the solution is in the minds of the people mak…
/r/MensRights29/11/13 09:30 AM
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Sorry, :/ Anyway, here's the video about female purity that I mentioned before, I really enjoyed it and felt it was educational, but you don't have to watch it: http://vimeo.com/33173853
/r/MensRights29/11/13 09:05 AM
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You can have a lot of sex and not have STI's, have you heard of condoms my good sir? The idea that people who have a lot of sex are always venerally diseased is out of date now. There are people who sleep with a lot of people and wear condoms. TBH if you were to wear a condom, you would be protected from any of that promiscuous person's diseases anyway. This knowledge-gap is where slut-shaming attitudes come from, not just traditional ideas about female purity. Actually if you're interested, the…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 04:21 PM
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Yeah, it's almost as if gender roles and societal expectations of gender lead to male rape being under-reported and not acknowledged, it's almost as if it could be harmful
/r/MensRights28/11/13 04:09 PM
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Marital rape is a thing actually. And I'm sure you mutually agree to have sex, and I' m sure this is spoken, and I'm sure no one feels coerced into anything, in which case of course it's not rape, well done, your wife is lucky to have you and you her.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 11:33 AM
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Pressuring someone in relation to obtaining consent for sex actually counts as coercing them into consenting, and coerced consent does not legally count, so actually no, it's not Mike's responsibility. But then again, this analogy doesn't work, because rape is about property rights, the ones you have over your own body, and no one is claiming any property rights have been violated in this scenario.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 11:29 AM
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"socially conditioned shame toward sex" -which obviously you have NO part in reinforcing at all :rolls eyes: Obviously if you ask someone a question too soon they will be scared off, have you never been asked something by someone too soon? Ever had a new friend get too pally too quickly and it's scared you off? Timing is everything, and there has to be a time for consent, or else it's rape (you have to obtain consent in order for it to be sex.)
/r/MensRights28/11/13 11:24 AM
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I actually kind of hope this is satire, because it is that accurate, but I can't tell, sorry.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 11:14 AM
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Ehem. How exactly is it a false rape accusation if you did not attain consent? Also, you've answered your own question here. You claim to be surprised about women having this "weird shame around sex", and guess that maybe other women cause it, but in your very first line you shame and reject the idea of a woman who wants sex and has had sex with several men, and I quote: "Except maybe from some uber-promiscuous nymphomaniac and --sorry--but no thank you" Why no thank you? Is it because you don't…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 11:02 AM
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Self fulfilling prophesy. If you say that, that gives people who would attack someone unable to fight back a free pass, because hey, the drunk person was warned! Being out of control of your body and mind sets you up for nothing unless a person with intent to harm you is out there.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:56 AM
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Why is there this idea that there will be so many false claims?? I think it's a cover up, to cover up and hush up the real claims.
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:54 AM
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"Telling someone to stop whining when they have anxiety is like telling someone with a broken leg to go running, they can't, and if they try, it will only make it worse." Just because you cannot see an illness, doesn't mean it's not there and it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I think in fact sir you are misusing the phrase. With anxiety disorder that's the whole point, there is no "legitimate" emotional problem, just the emotional response, that's why it doesn't go away, that's why it's a disord…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:51 AM
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When is a victim-mentality tactic not a victim-mentality tactic? When there are actual victims involved. He's not playing a tactic, he's pointing out a problem, and would the world really be so bad if we learnt to respect each other and use language that doesn't rely on poisonous stereotypes? If your response to legitimate emotional/psychological harm based on gender/gendered speech is to "act like an adult" then what on earth is that going to change? How are you going to achieve change in peopl…
/r/MensRights28/11/13 10:45 AM
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Yes, it is anti-male in upholding an unrealistic pro-male ideal that doesn't match up to real life, much like much of sexism. Thanks for seeing my point there. :)
/r/MensRights27/11/13 05:34 PM
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Ridiculously pleased and proud and encouraged that men are recognising that societies current view of masculinity is toxic and harmful to men. I really hope people keep up this work, seriously, it means so much^ that men are rejecting society's sexist gender stereotypes and casual gendered language. It honestly does. Sincerly -I actively discourage people from telling people to man up, it makes an unrealistic and unhealthy standard for people of the male gender, it's stifling, I would never ever…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 04:52 PM
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Explosions death and a badass doesn't have to be masculine, if (oh if) there was ever a similar film with a female character, "take it like a man" wouldn't be relevant. You just implied that men can (and therefore should) take more pain than other genders. Well done, this toxic incarnation of masculinity is your worst enemy.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 04:39 PM
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This one doesn't, and many others don't. We believe it reinforces negative gender stereotypes, and also reinforces the idea that it is better to be a man whilst hurting males as individuals who fail to meet the emotionless standard that is held up as "manliness" and contributes to the 3x higher rate of suicide in men than women. Same way we would never tell a man to stop being a "woman" as if being like a "woman" (i.e emotional or weak or bad at sports) was a bad thing (or indeed meant any of th…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 04:35 PM
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Yay! :D
/r/MensRights27/11/13 04:24 PM
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Feminist opinion number 15166903: Consent can be revoked at any time, and why would someone want to falsely accuse you of rape after having sex with you? Do you people really not know the people you are sleeping with that well that they could be hiding a secret vendetta against you from you? Or are you having sex without really knowing or caring what full willing and continued consent means? Because if you know that, then you shouldn't have to be playing legal games to maintain your innocence. A…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:32 PM
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Um, a lot of feminist women are for legalising sex work, because it would protect women and allow them to use their sexual agency. It's only exploitation if it's sex-trafficking, which increases when sex work is made illegal or is not well regulated.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:22 PM
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Yeah, it doesn't protect her from feeling uncomfortable with the situation and withdrawing consent or being unable to legally give consent in the moment. Correct.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 01:03 PM
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Talk for as long as it takes to agree to consensual sexual activity. Discuss what you both want to do, ask the other party if they want to do what you want to do, give your own consent to do what the other party wants to do, and do not make them feel bad if they do not want to or change their mind at any point. Create an enviroment of trust and no pressure, ensure they don't secretly have a burning vendetta against you that involves having sex with you and then punishing you for it. Trust me, if…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 12:53 PM
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Agreed, it sets an appallingly low standard for men's competence, but is this equivalent to the Bechdel test, which has no character judgement in any way?
/r/MensRights27/11/13 12:42 PM
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It's a joke, it's meant to indicate that if something other than a woman were sexy, could it replace them in a role, even if it was not capable of agency? Perhaps the test should use cars, I guess cars are sexy, but the point remains the same.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 12:03 PM
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*It's a feminist movie test, what did you expect? Also, it's not meant to say that a movie is "wrong" or "bad" if it fails, likewise if it passes it is not automatically good and pro-women. It is simply meant to make you think about how female characters are portrayed in movies and how often their existance is defined about male characters. The equivalent test with genders reversed is just as valid for investigating how male characters can be defined around female characters.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 11:52 AM
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Sexualised can mean two things. One, making it obviously clear which gender a character is, i.e Small, narrow shoulders, high waist and hip ratio, agile = Female, feminine, but big muscles and a chiselled jaw, tall, broad shoulders = Male, masculine. However, being sexualised in this way does not necessarily make a character sexualised in the other way, i,e sexual attractiveness and receptiveness. When a male character is sexualised, it looks more like this than what you were describing: http://…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 11:41 AM
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No it wouldn't, because if they are harming a woman they are not helping her, so they do not pass point 2, and therefore fail the test. What if one of, or even both of the two women characters are feral or sinister or inept? Hmm. True, but the Bechdel test has similar issues, a film can pass it and still be misogynistic and hold up feminine roles that go against women, it's the curse of making a simple and relatively non-subjective test. I've not seen Unforgiven, so I cannot comment on the ridic…
/r/MensRights27/11/13 11:22 AM
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Scott Pilgrim? It's about him, winning the girl/defeating his foes. For himself.
/r/MensRights27/11/13 11:12 AM
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Why did you feel you had to add in the "neither feral, sinister, nor inept"? How many less movies do you think would pass if the Bechdel test had this qualifier? How many more would pass your test without it? And what kind of movie has no good cause and no risk? Seriously? I guess if you had put the actual equivalent of the Bechdel test, i,e "Talk about something other than women to eachother" it would have been too easy and too many would pass. But still, it could have still had integrity had y…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 10:20 PM
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I think the article is betraying an implicit lack of understanding of the Bechdel test. The test is not designed to show anything other than how many female characters there are who have the capacity to stand alone without men i.e not built around men, with lives outside of men. It is nothing to do with "traditional gender roles" and everything to do with how Hollywood portrays women. A movie can fail the Bechdel test and still be a good film, and a movie can pass it and still be a bad film that…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:40 PM
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It says we want to end those stereotypes though!! That is literally the entire point of the video.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:24 PM
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i can't find this anywhere else, this is the earliest image i can find of it using reverse google image search, unless someone has edited this image so much that google can't tell.
/r/MensRights16/06/13 08:28 PM
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