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| – | A woman’s bad experiences become boundaries and standards. Mens are insecurities and MisogynyCan’t speak for everyone obviously I’m not all women but; At least in my experience, it’s more so one of or a combination of the two things that frustrate people when it comes to men setting boundaries. Let’s just say it’s something like, women getting mad when men discuss stuff like body counts We don’t like when it’s a double standard. We don’t like when people are unusually cruel/vitriolic with their boundary. It’s fine if a guy says “I prefer to date women who haven’t dated around casually b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/26 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Never settle” has slowly morphed into “never compromiseWoman here! Gonna disagree - some traits might be universally aesthically pleasing but that doesn’t mean people are attracted to them. To make it clearer; I know on an intellectual level that Jacob Elordi is attractive, but I’m not attracted to him. For me, he’s nice to look at the way a piece of art is nice to look at…but that doesn’t mean I want him in my home. Then we go to my enduring crush on John Oliver. I really like people who are funny and smart and empathetic. I know he is not attracti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/26 06:40 AM |
| – | Vague language is necessary for women’s world viewYes but was it a slap? Did they spit on you? Was it a single punch? Being kneed repeatedly in the balls? See it’s so vague…. /s My point being: assault can take many forms but all of the above are examples of physical assault. Physical assault is a broad term the way sexual assault is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/26 01:48 PM |
| 24 | Women move on too fast and it's destroying datingYes actually. Some people like their jobs and put work in and are proud of their effort. Their job treats them well and they feel valued/respected and they get joy from their work. Relationships are similar. If you don’t feel valued/trusted/respected/loved, you’re more likely to leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/26 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Autistic males are treated worse than autistic females because alot of autistic males dont know how to behave and lack empathy.You’re strawmanning. I haven’t ready every single comment they’ve posted ever, but in the original post OP never said autistic men were all wilful psychopaths. So why would you imply I agree with a statement that didn’t happen? And I can’t just brush over the fact that very early in this comment thread I told you I considered your statement “no one is more kind and genuine than people with autism” to be just as untrue as “no one is more unkind and fake than people with autism” …. which yknow, is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/01/26 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Autistic males are treated worse than autistic females because alot of autistic males dont know how to behave and lack empathy.Thankyou for the link! I gave it a read and a few things stuck out to me immediately. This study was a qualitative interview study with 2 open ended questions participants answered that was advertised through Facebook ads in autism communities online. The commonalities in their answers were arranged into “themes” that informed the researchers findings. It was not a multiple choice or yes/no survey. So the data captured is not something you can distill down to numbers easily. That being said! The… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Autistic males are treated worse than autistic females because alot of autistic males dont know how to behave and lack empathy.Autism isn’t a “serious condition”. It’s not a condition at all. It’s a spectrum disorder - lifelong, incurable, but because it happens on a spectrum two people with autism can express their symptoms extremely differently. There are people with such profound autism they need lifelong care. They can’t bathe, change, or exist unsupervised or unassisted and can lash out aggressively. They’re not at fault for this - it’s just the disorder impacts them so greatly that they need full time Care and are… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Autistic males are treated worse than autistic females because alot of autistic males dont know how to behave and lack empathy.What an odd question. I’d like to know what in my comment suggested that to you because I can’t see it at all. To answer your question; I think saying “no one is more kind and genuine than people with autism” is as incorrect and wrong as if they’d said “no one is more unkind and fake than people with autism”. Both things are untrue and give a false impression of autists. I have a problem with either statement because they are not backed up by data and yet make sweeping claims about large amounts… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 09:42 PM |
| -1 | Autistic males are treated worse than autistic females because alot of autistic males dont know how to behave and lack empathy.Obligatory “not all men” haha But seriously. This is a blatantly false generalisation. ETA: some men are raised to respect women, some aren’t. Some women are raised to respect men, some aren’t. We need to raise people who respect people not just genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 04:08 AM |
| 6 | Autistic males are treated worse than autistic females because alot of autistic males dont know how to behave and lack empathy.Hey now I think it’s good to call out ableism - my partner is autistic, I have AUDHD - but we can’t just outright glaze all autistic people. I’ve met extremely empathetic, kind and lovely autistic men. I’ve also met autistic men who use the condition as an excuse to never learn social skills and/or be blatantly cruel. They aren’t mutually exclusive. Autism is a condition that makes things like social cues and empathy harder (for some, it’s a spectrum and presents differently in different people)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/26 04:05 AM |
| 7 | Is the right to Abortion more about a woman's body autonomy, or simply dodging responsibility?Oh yes because the alternative of raising a child in poverty, giving them significant disadvantages compared to their peers because they were born to parents who couldn’t afford them and resent them is much better than terminating a fetus with no thoughts or feelings? There’s the other alternative of carrying to term and giving the child up for adoption….which, unless they’re lucky, means condemning them to the foster system and having them grow up with significant disadvantages due to the lack … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/26 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Women logically are the cause of most dating problemsThat is neither a rebuttal to my argument, nor is it even a successful critique. Is there a reason you disagree with my point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/12/25 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Women logically are the cause of most dating problemsA serious long term relationship is commitment that both people engage in. It’s not the man offering commitment and getting nothing in return. He gets the commitment from his partner as well. Like, a relationship is just a promise to try and stay together, love each other, do right by each other, and make each other happy. How is it controversial in a monogamous long term relationship to expect and want commitment? It’s entirely reasonable for a man or woman to expect that from a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/12/25 02:24 PM |
| 3 | Men would you use a long term birth control if it was available?I use condoms with my partner. Didn’t stop him from knocking me up this year. Condoms are up to 98% effective with perfect use. The real world figure is more like 87% effective (according to planned parenthood). Micro tears, using the wrong size, the condom falling off inside your partner…. Also people aren’t just prescribed birth control to prevent pregnancy. It helps with stabilising moods, PCOS, hormonal imbalances etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/11/25 06:15 AM |
| 1 | For too many men here, sex is the only priority to be fulfilled with hasteI mean I have some ideas on how to help. challenge narratives that sex should be the sole focus in life. Both the internal narrative and external. When people makes jokes about it, just say “why is that funny?” And look blankly at them while they get more flustered. At least that works for me with sexist jokes. Another good way of challenging that narrative is encouraging men to discuss the parts of their lives that don’t involve sex/women. Celebrate life goals like going on a dream trip, buying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/10/25 06:19 AM |
| 2 | Sex is emotional for men, tooThere are many posts and comments on this subreddit where people with a red pill flair espouse that belief. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/10/25 12:46 AM |
| 25 | Q4W: Would you rather be the king's mistress or a peasant's wife?Peasants wife hands down. Kings went through a lot of mistresses. The position relied on your ongoing appeal, so no real security there, and many mistresses ended up discarded by the king or by the kings families after the king died. It’s a rough gig. Peasant life would suck, but I’d rather be poor and cold with a family and community than locked away waiting for a man with absolute power over my life to become bored of me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/25 09:20 AM |
| 5 | There actually are government mandated solutions to datingHey so Australia has publicly funded healthcare called Medicare. It was introduced in 1984 - years after the country and government were formed. It’s not a perfect system, but ive had 2 medical emergencies in my life. One required surgery, one required a 6 day hospital stay. Both cost me $0 It is not easy to implement an overhaul like this. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Saying “it’s always been like x it’s too hard to change to y” is giving up before you start. Medicare in Australia is not … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/25 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Women do not fall for "manipulation" as much as they want to think they doI mean I can’t convince you I’m not a bot if you’ve already decided I am. But let’s look at your evidence for thinking I’m a bot. I presented a contradiction to your assertion that no woman would actually date an autistic man. My rebuttal is I’m out here replying while I take a shit which last I checked bots don’t do. There’s also my extensive footprint on reddit that’s easily accessible by checking my profile. A couple clicks and bam, years of comments and posts that seem to point to me being r… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 02:36 PM |
| 6 | Women do not fall for "manipulation" as much as they want to think they doMy fiancé is autistic. I am a woman. Last I checked I was real and not made up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/25 02:19 PM |
| 3 | Women, being candid as you can, how much overlap would you say there is between the traits for being a desirable man vs being a good partner?Exactly :) If I like someone enough to sleep with them, it doesn’t mean I’ll like them enough to date them. But I gotta like someone enough to sleep with them to date them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/25 12:26 AM |
| 3 | Women, being candid as you can, how much overlap would you say there is between the traits for being a desirable man vs being a good partner?ONS Desired traits: I find them attractive, not a shit person (as far as I can tell with the information presented to me) we can hold a good conversation, sexual chemistry. Partner desired traits: All of the above PLUS…. Similar/compatible values and life goals, in touch with their emotions, good sense of humour, patient, good communicator, has hobbies they are passionate about, are respectful of my hobbies, pulls their weight around the house, affectionate… Essentially for me there’s a lot of o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/25 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Men want women to have LOW standards, not consistent standards.I mean for me someone being ok looking and someone being attractive are two different things. I expect other women (not all, but probably some) have a similar distinction. I always compare it to like, an art gallery. There might be hundreds of pieces of artwork in there but some people might only really like a handful of them. ETA: there’s nothing objectively wrong the the hundreds of other pieces of artwork and you can recognise they have their own merits but if you don’t really like them you d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/25 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Dismissing women's opinions of men because they're based on online interactions is stupid (and intentionally manipulative).My guy the fact that men made things doesn’t make them good by default - you’re using the internet right? WiFi was developed because of the invention of a woman. Does that make women good by default? No. People are neutral and we can choose to be good or bad. But being like “men made a road therefore good” means I can say “well women made those men and therefore are good” and neither of those things have anything to do with how good someone is? Builders can be rapists and thieves and abusers. So… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/25 08:58 PM |
| 1 | My handsome, successful male cousins are getting married to women I perceive as "average". None of them are with beautiful women. This also reflects what I notice in society (not including Hollywood). Am I missing something here?Nah I agree with u/Clean-Luck6428 James Purefoy in A Knights Tale is gorgeous. The “female gaze” isn’t limited to just ONE type of man and it’s not even really as much about how hot someone is…it’s about what is focussed on. “Male Gaze” for men, in most film theory I’ve come across, means that the camera views men through the lens of what other men think is attractive to women. “Female gaze” is viewing the men through the lens of what women think is attractive. Like in a pride and prejudice when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 11:43 PM |
| 4 | My handsome, successful male cousins are getting married to women I perceive as "average". None of them are with beautiful women. This also reflects what I notice in society (not including Hollywood). Am I missing something here?From memory, if I’m thinking of the same guy as u/TinyFlamingo2147, he (eta the miles of duck guy) looked up the average time sex takes and worked out average dick thrusts per minute and calculated it that way, using the average length of a dick as the units of length x the average individual thrusts to get to the mile measurement. Absolutely unhinged behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/25 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average menOne time a hot guy kept offering to buy me a drink. I politely declined. Several times. I said I’d love to keep talking but I was done drinking for the night. He then brought over a drink for me anyway and got pissed I wouldn’t touch it….despite me saying I didn’t want the drink several times before he purchased it. That demonstrated a lack of respect. I’d clearly said I didn’t want a drink, and yet he decided to bring me one anyway, and then get angry I didn’t want it/got mad I “wasted his mone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average men…..im not assuming the hot guy doesn’t respect me. I’m just saying that, if my choices are a hot guy who I demonstrates he doesn’t respect me versus an average guy who does, I’m picking the average guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/25 07:43 AM |
| 21 | Apparently women just magically turn “demisexusal” around average menMaybe personality isn’t the highest ranking thing on the list for all women but As a woman who has had one night stands…if I’m choosing between one average looking guy with a personality I vibe with who seems like he respects me as a human, and a more attractive guy who clearly just sees me as his next semen receptacle, I’m picking the first guy every time. People have standards even in casual sex - most standards are probably looks-based but myself and a whole bunch of women I know have picked … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/25 04:37 PM |
| 4 | The majority of Red Pill men are incredibly insecureInsecurity isn’t a sin but how we react to our insecurity is the important thing. Let’s say I’m insecure about my weight, hypothetically. Simply being insecure is not the issue. But, hypothetically if I went around commenting horrid shit on Instagram on other people’s pictures to make myself feel better about my own insecurity…that itself is shitty and not justified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/25 08:40 PM |
| 1 | If age gap relationships are wrong because of the power dynamic, so are hypergamous onesI don’t think that’s what they’re saying. Theres just a certain side-eye that people have for someone dating a person in an entirely different life stage to them. When you’re like, 18-early to mid 20s, it’s more like you’re playing at being an adult than actually being an adult. Older adults don’t really feel like your peers yet, they’re a still a sense of authority to them. Chances are at that age you’re pursuing a degree, or living at home, or only working part time, exploring and experimentin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/25 02:07 AM |
| 3 | Generalizing by Gender Is Lazy and HarmfulI considered and typed out a long response but from observing your responses I can generalise that you’re not open to good faith debate and can’t engage respectfully with people who disagree with you. I can make a whole lot of other generalisations about you as well if you’d like :) seeing as they’re as indisputable as hard facts in your eyes I’m sure we can agree they’re likely true. Have a good day, or just a day. I’m not here to debate people acting nasty and I won’t waste time on it. But hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/25 08:47 PM |
| 11 | Generalizing by Gender Is Lazy and HarmfulGeneralisations aren’t science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/25 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by them…..I don’t know what you’re b referring to? I just gave a flippant/jokey answer to your question about heels and purses and men et al bc I found it funny. I do find drag queens intimidating in a good way. The vast majority of them are gay so no it’s not common for women to date them. A semi-famous example I can think of is Maddy Morphosis who is straight and has/had a girlfriend. I was trying to be kinda light hearted and jokey. You are very insistent and angry. Bc of that, I don’t think continu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Most women are not that smart and men are not intimidated by themHey I know multiple drag queens and let me tell you there’s nothing more intimidating than man towering over me in 6 inch stilettos dancing and walking better than I can in my little 3 inch platforms whose makeup looks better than anything I’ve ever managed to accomplish. Intimidating in a good way mind you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/05/25 12:20 AM |
| 1 | Millennial males (and older) had it easier.I mean my partner has very little money. He’s attractive sure, but I fell in love with him when he was a pimply-faced awkward teenager with a shit haircut. Some people prioritise those things, others don’t. My partner is attractive to me not just in a physical way, but because when I look at him I see the sum of our years together and the years we’re going to have. His kindness and humour and intelligence. To assume all women operate the same is silly imo. Humans tastes are diverse and varied - … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 12:39 PM |
| 1 | Millennial males (and older) had it easier.Not exactly what I was saying…. Gaming is fine provided it’s a hobby not the thing you do to the detriment of everything else. Gaming is not an issue for me and my partner bc he contributes as an equal partner to our savings, the cleanliness of the house, and spends quality time with me as well. No part of our life suffers just so he can game more. When he has prioritised gaming over chores, work, friends, and family (and me) that’s when it’s an issue. It’s rare to find a person who would be hap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 12:33 PM |
| 4 | Millennial males (and older) had it easier.My fiancé has been a gamer - like, multiple hours per day every day gamer - the whole time I’ve known him. He’s autistic to boot. That guy has had more luck with women than the vast majority of our friends. Our friends who include a couple gymbro high-earners. Looks and money can help. Some people want those things in a partner. Most people would prefer a partner who takes care of themselves and earns a good living. But I think assuming gaming is the problem is a little presumptive. Most things … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/25 05:52 AM |
| 5 | Feminism's claims are inherently unfalsifiableI think you’ve misunderstood what “non-problem” is being “screeched at” here. In states with abortion bans, women are at risk of criminal charges for seeking an abortion. Women who are miscarrying aren’t safe from those charges either. Brittany Watts suffered a miscarriage and was charged with abuse of a corpse because she miscarried on her toilet….btw, many doctors and hospitals will often instruct a miscarrying woman to sit on the toilet while miscarrying and dispose of the foetal tissue that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/25 06:47 AM |
| 17 | Women who claim that size doesn't matter, have you actually experienced a big penis before, or are you just assuming it won't make a difference?When thinking about people I’ve fucked, dick size didn’t ever correlated with skill in bed/how much I enjoyed it. Honestly people with a bigger dick had a harder time with me because thanks to some bad experiences I’m way more tense around them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/25 02:00 PM |
| 5 | A lot of men participate in casual misogyny and then turn around and get upset with casual misandry.It’s important to remember the context statistics happen in. Historically it’s a far smaller sample size of women leaders to pull from. To quote the article you linked; “Authors of the book Why Leaders Fight analyzed every world leader from 1875 to 2004 and statistically examined gender differences in military aggression. They found that 36% of the female leaders initiated at least one militarized dispute, while only 30% of male leaders did the same. The authors say, “This does not mean that wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/25 03:31 AM |
| – | Why Do Women Complain About Men In Bed?I mean no one can speak for all women because, and it’s worth saying, women arent a monolith. But here is a non-exhaustive list of reasons I’ve complained about sexual partners in bed; 1 guy never touched my clit, barely fondled my breast, and rutted on top of me for 2 mins before cumming and asking if it was good for me. 1 guy kept trying to put it in the other hole despite me saying no until I actually had to stop the whole thing and leave 1 guy tried to do choking and degradation without my c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/25 03:52 AM |
| 0 | I was proven wrong yesterday regarding women and biphobia. But I don't understand the reasoning.Depends. Queer has been reclaimed by a lot of the queer community because it describes a large spectrum. My partners sibling is non-binary and pansexual. That’s a mouthful, so they use Queer. I’m bisexual, although pansexual is probably a more accurate term, I use queer because it still describes me without having to get into nuance of the difference between bi and pan and why I use one word and not the other. Queer is also great for people not comfortable with a specific label but whose gender … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/25 09:35 AM |
| 3 | Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men?You can hate that line of thinking, that’s your prerogative. I don’t choose to judge people/get angry at them unless their actions are bad (in my eyes). Cheating on partner? Bad. Having sex with someone underage? Bad Sexual assault? Bad Having casual sex? I don’t care you do you. We are an interconnected society but I’m not gonna waste time and energy being angry at strangers for engaging in behaviour that I don’t think is morally wrong. People have casual sex does not affect me at all and is no… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/24 08:27 AM |
| 15 | Why don't women care about promiscuous slutty men?Can’t speak for all women, but what consenting adults do in their private time doesn’t affect me so I don’t really think about it. Provided the sex is safe, sane, consensual, ethical, and legal….its not my business and I don’t care. If someone is cheating on their partner, if they pressure/coerce someone into sex they don’t want, if someone involved is underage…then I care. But someone being promiscuous? Someone just enjoying sex? Good for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/24 06:14 AM |
| 2 | The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for whyI’d love to see the actual studies showing that. I’d say people with extremely profound autism who need special care are disconnected from reality. There are also millions of autists who function fine in society. Some are never even diagnosed because of the fundamental misunderstanding of autism and how it presents (especially in women) and because the way their autism affects them can be written off as “quirky”. Autism does not necessarily mean you are automatically disconnected from reality. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 06:57 PM |
| 6 | The vast majority of whining about society online comes from people whose personally lives have failed. It doesn't mean society is collapsing. It doesn't mean the West Has Fallen Billions Must Die. It doesn't mean that all women are evil. It just means that you suck and are looking for whyPainting all autistic people as disconnected from reality/unable to make sound points shows a profound misunderstanding of autism. Autism is a spectrum, and autism’s/people who are autistic are as varied and individual as neurotypical people are. Because they’re just people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsWhy is it not a man’s responsibility? Because he didn’t want the kid? It’s entirely possible that the sex worker wasn’t enthused about getting pregnant either. So why is it only her responsibility? Because the man leaves and doesn’t think about it ever again? It was his sperm, his money that paid for his pleasure that led to HIS child. He helped make it, he better help care for it. ETA: I am no longer engaging in this comment thread with you as we’ve both stated our views several times and neith… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 04:04 AM |
| 2 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsYou’re saying “well shouldn’t the sex worker be responsible for their choices” as if the man didn’t choose to pay for sex knowing sex can lead to pregnancy. The consequence of having sex with someone is possibly getting them pregnant/becoming pregnant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsYou’re saying it shouldn’t be YOURS though, or any men who engage in sex tourism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 03:32 AM |
| 2 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsMy views on reproductive rights aren’t the topic of debate here are they? I’m pro choice. Read into that what you will. For the purpose of OPs debate, it’s “bad” because if OP impregnates a sex worker while engaging in sex tourism in a country where access to abortion is limited, OP is more likely to be chased down for child support. Whereas if a sex worker is given access to healthcare like abortions and birth control, there’s less likely to be a child, ergo, no child support. OP said no men sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 03:27 AM |
| 4 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsOP said they shouldn’t be on the hook if they knock someone up. Their first point is it’s “the sex workers responsibility to use birth control”. First sentence of first point. Im arguing it’s his too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:58 PM |
| 6 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsOof I think I’m about to ruin your day. 77 countries around the world allow abortion on request for broad reasons, sure. BUT. 40+ countries only allow them when there is risk to the pregnant persons health, and another 40+ only allow them for cases of rape, incest, etc… 21 countries ban abortion altogether…. Interestingly, the Phillipines (a popular sex tourism destination) is a country that flat out bans abortion. So. 40% of women live in places where abortion is restricted or illegal. I’ve lin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:53 PM |
| 6 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsYeah, but does that mean you should just say “fuck it” and not even try to take precautions? Condoms (when used correctly) are 97% effective. Pretty good odds right there. There are also vasectomies for a more long term solution. Point is - birth control is the responsibility of everyone involved unless both parties want kids. So if you’re gonna fuck someone, don’t complain about knocking them up if you did it raw and didnt check if they were on birth control/would get an abortion if they got pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:29 PM |
| 16 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsNo clue how you got that from what I said but I’m happy to rephrase it if you’re confused. My entire response can be paraphrased to; if you don’t want to knock someone up, wrap your dick. Truth is, you don’t know if the sex worker you hired has access to birth control, can afford an abortion, or that they would choose to abort if they became pregnant. In some sex tourism destinations, access to birth control and abortions is not a given. It is not always legal, or affordable, or easy to find. So… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 03:51 PM |
| 40 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsIm only gonna say one thing; If you are sticking your dick in someone, you have equal responsibility to making sure you are safeguarding against impregnating them. If you do not WANT a child, wrap it up. Sex tourism is popular in developing nations where extensive access to healthcare (like birth control and abortions) is limited, and last I checked it takes 2 to tango. A sex worker cannot impregnateherself. Semen usually has to be involved, and if it is your semen….yeah, your responsibility. If… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 03:24 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Standards and WhyHmmm great question. In no particular order: Good hygiene Kind Funny Emotionally intelligent We have shared values and similar outlooks on life Has hobbies they are deeply passionate about Is independent/self sufficient and can take care of themselves Has a job that sustains their lifestyle (THEIR lifestyle, not mine) Can clean and cook Inquisitive/curious about the world Moderately attractive? But that’s so subjective. Provided I am attracted to them idc what physical boxes they tick or don’t t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 11:26 PM |
| 3 | A question on consent culture?It’s a fair enough question - i can’t answer a question when I don’t understand it. If you’re unwilling to define what those look like TO YOU I can’t give you my opinion on it. ETA: if you feel like defining them, I’d love to answer that question. But I won’t waste either of our time trying to figure out what you mean when you could just…yknow….tell me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 07:07 PM |
| 3 | A question on consent culture?That is impossible to answer. Firstly, I don’t know what exactly you mean by how humans are today versus how we would want them to be in a utopia, and I probably have a very different idea of what they mean compared to you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 07:02 PM |
| 8 | A question on consent culture?I mean rape is still happening because there are people who ignore consent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 05:20 PM |
| 0 | Feminists can't be "allies" to men's activists, because the feminist movement, broadly, is actively hostile to menIm only jumping on here for one thing you said - The oppression of women was not intended to be framed as a malicious agenda. The oppression of woman was not some kind of concerted effort where all men agreed to do XYZ out of hatred or disdain. The systems that oppressed women and benefitted men came about mostly from necessity (survival), ignorance, religious systems, and for a long time women were complicit in their oppression because no one really considered doing things differently. The syst… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 11:49 PM |
| 5 | "Behaviorally attractive people and physically attractive people are more desired" is not "just world fallacy" it's just the realityI’m not sure what you’re trying to do here. Now that women can you know, have a bank account and work and stuff (and yes that has been around for decades but considering all of human history that’s relatively recent) women don’t need to settle for men who don’t listen or don’t keep themselves clean. In the past they likely would have. Standards for what makes a good partner have drastically changed in the span of the last 100 years. My great-grandfather for example. He cheated on his wife and ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 10:25 AM |
| -1 | "Behaviorally attractive people and physically attractive people are more desired" is not "just world fallacy" it's just the realityIt’s not the just world fallacy exactly. The bar is in hell is a double edged sword kind of thing - historically women needed to partner up to survive and now that they don’t need to anymore (in many parts of the world at least) they want at least the bare minimum. For example, a partner who listens to them and is clean and can take care of themselves. ( I am NOT saying men don’t meet this bare minimum. Some do, some don’t. ) It’s not saying “do these things and you WILL be successful” it’s sayi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Can you count the amount of times you’ve been insulted ? Q4WAll of them? Fuck no. Like….i couldn’t even estimate it if I tried. I went to religious private schools, an all girl high school - kids could be ruthless and mean. Moved to a public coed school….teenagers can be ruthless and mean. I worked hospitality and retail from ages 15-25. I managed a gift store during the pandemic (that was a fun experience). I went out with friends pretty regularly from ages 20-24. I’ve been actually verbally insulted so often. Hell, I sometimes jump on overwatch with my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/24 05:13 AM |
| 15 | Is porn addiction a factor in how negatively women see the average man?Depends on the person using it An ex of mine was a porn addict. Got so bad and he wanked so frequently he couldnt finish during sex. He could only cum watching porn, with a legit white-knuckle grip around his dick. The sex part of our relationship was unfulfilling for both of us. He was very frustrated he couldn’t finish, and over time I became more and more resentful of how his porn usage was affecting our sex life. Not everyone who watches porn develops a problem like my ex did (my fiance watc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/24 06:54 AM |
| 2 | A lot of men are justifiably annoyed by a culture that blames them for the male gaze yet pumps "wet ass pussy" into the airwavesSaying it’s illegal is unfounded and incorrect. Saying it’s a rule enforced in some nightclubs is not. That’s all I’m saying. Going around acting like staring is illegal in all Australia because some nightclubs have that rule is imo not Good debate and can distract people from the real issues while they parse through what is incorrect and what is exaggeration and what the real argument is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 11:23 PM |
| 2 | A lot of men are justifiably annoyed by a culture that blames them for the male gaze yet pumps "wet ass pussy" into the airwavesI think you’re not understanding me here. It’s not illegal. Your assertion that is is illegal and it’s “coming for us” is incorrect as it pertains to Australia. There is no law - proposed or passed - that exists with the purpose of measuring seconds spent staring or looking at a person. It exists in Australia as a guideline by a commission that a small handful of clubs have adopted and now use. Yeah that’s a bit sucky, but your fear for Australia here is unfounded m. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 04:41 PM |
| 10 | A lot of men are justifiably annoyed by a culture that blames them for the male gaze yet pumps "wet ass pussy" into the airwavesI dunno. It’s important to remember context in this kind of situation. For one, the fact that some women are OF models and that the song WAP exists doesn’t mean all women want to be sexualised all the time. WAP is a fun song but I don’t want people using that as a reason to sexualise me when I’m on the bus. I think, while I understand it can feel confusing, think of it like pizza: maybe you want pizza one night for dinner, but that doesn’t mean you want it all the time forever. It’s just in this… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 03:50 PM |
| 5 | A lot of men are justifiably annoyed by a culture that blames them for the male gaze yet pumps "wet ass pussy" into the airwavesHi! Australian here. I think some wires have been crossed. It is not against the law to look at women here. However in the Australian Human Rights Commission, staring and leering are listed as forms of sexual harassment. Here is the full dot point as outlined on the website for context: Examples of sexual harassment include: - staring, leering or unwelcome touching Those are all one dot point together. Furthermore, to look at and to stare are different and defined differently. Looking is directi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/23 03:21 PM |
| 2 | How many men would a man need to be able to defend against before it's not unattractive to run away?Haha it’s ok. I mean it’s not but I’m ok. It was a long time ago and I’m doing a lot better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 01:44 AM |
| 5 | How many men would a man need to be able to defend against before it's not unattractive to run away?Tell you what. My fiancé almost got in a fight years ago and I found it so unattractive. The fight wasn’t his fault and I didn’t blame him for it, but his immediate fallback to aggression to solve it I didn’t see as “manly, sexy” whatever. When he offered to beat up the ex they assaulted me, i flat out told him he’d be doing it for him not me and I didn’t want that and never would. You know what “protective” thing my fiancé does that I find extremely attractive? A few weeks ago we were out drink… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/23 12:41 AM |
| 46 | Do women act incognizant to avoid accountability?There’s a couple things at play here, ignoring people who are fishing for attention/making stuff up (those people exist but we’re looking at the many genuine stories on reddit). Firstly, trauma can absolutely change the way a human brain operates and thinks and processes information. It affects memory, emotional regulation, everything. So someone in an abusive relationship and who is traumatised by it is operating at a disadvantage already. Secondly, in those stories all over reddit there’s usua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 12:49 PM |
| 3 | Are most men actually geared for romance or is it usually just a means to an end?Just gonna hop on and add my two cents because I have mixed feelings about this To answer the main question though, I think women overall care more about emotional gestures, but you’ll find a range of men who also like romantic gestures. Ideally you should find someone who views romance in the same way that you do. I agree with the latter half but not the former. I’d say people care differently about emotional gestures but it’s not gendered it’s more personal. People have different ways of recei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/23 05:28 AM |
| 13 | Do men realize that the “loose pussy” is the kind that most women have?It’s to avoid UTIs. I did not know to do this and missed that my UTI symptoms were UTI symptoms (in my defence I didn’t feel any stinging while I pee’d until my back started killing me) and almost went into full renal failure when within a week the infection got to my kidneys and then into my bloodstream. Fun times. I pee after sex now. And drink a fuckton of water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/23 08:05 AM |
| 3 | There is a minimum amount of money an individual should be expected to pay for a traditional engagement ring.Yeah my fiancé took me with him to look at rings (good thing to I fell in love with something I never expected to that neither of us would’ve thought to pick) and a the sales assistant was so good at sticking in budget and finding us something durable and wearable. We didn’t splurge, I’m glad we didn’t. I love my ring. And after doing research if my fiancé had gone with the opal or pearl I wanted before that trip in the silver band I thought I had my heart set on…..it would likely be trashed by … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/23 11:23 AM |
| 3 | Wanting men to communicate their needs / open up / be 'vulnerable' OR stop putting women in the position of being 'emotional servants'? Which is it?My fiancé had that excuse but then he went to therapy and realised he actually just had severe trauma and was actively disassociating from every day life until he couldn’t even feel joy anymore. I’m not saying you’re the same. Just that many people (men and women) who claim to regulate and never need to talk about their emotions often just refuse to feel them and it negatively impacts their mental health and their relationships. My fiancé isn’t a big sharer still. But he’s doing a lot better men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/23 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than menConsent is extremely misunderstood and sexual assault is a very nuanced topic that not a lot of people give nuance too. Because yeah, the situation you described happens in many relationships to men AND women because we are often taught as humans to sacrifice our desires for our partner and when it comes to sex (amongst other things) we shouldn’t do that. I’ll end on this - selfishness and assholery isn’t a gendered trait, it’s a human trait. Women and men have the potential to be assholes and t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 06:03 AM |
| 10 | Women get away with far more awkward and shitty behavior than menI think this is true but it’s also true of women and men - the whole “give him a chance!” Rhetoric many women get from men and women alike. I’d say the key difference is that men are seen as creepy more than women. Men are, in general, more physically imposing/perceived as potentially dangerous more than women are. Women aren’t labelled creepy. Crazy maybe, but even then not in a way that’s taken seriously. And women can absolutely be creepy. Both sides reinforce this narrative. Men are seen as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/23 01:27 AM |
| 1 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalDepends how you measure strength. Depends on your values. Depends on a lot of things. Me personally? The things you listed don’t apply To me and aren’t things I relate to so | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 06:56 AM |
| 2 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalI think that men should if they want to but to….but that women should also be encouraged to make the first move. The idea and expectation that men have to be the instigators is unfair to men and women. It puts most of the burden of feeling rejected on men and most of the burden of feeling harassed on women (the shittier outcomes of pursuing/being pursued). There’s more to it than that but that’s the simplest way to put it. Its easy to characterise women as entitled when you are women complain ab… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 06:34 AM |
| 0 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalI have no idea what you’re trying to say here but in case I wasn’t clear: I don’t support the notion that men should make the first move. Im not saying i support that. Im simply saying in my experience I have seen a lot more success meeting in person than online. Take from that what you will. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalSome do! Kangaroo meat is actually a lean red meat with more iron and protein than beef, pork, and chicken. Its also not traditionally farmed the way cows/chickens/pigs are, so less added stuff popped in. I wouldn’t say it’s a staple in most households but it’s definitely not weird. | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 05:43 AM |
| -3 | Dating as a minority under 6ft in Australia is brutalI second this as a woman. I have many partnered friends of all genders and all but 2 couples met in real life. The ones who met on tinder - well, they went to the same high school and she had a mad crush on him back then so they already knew each other. And the other couple is me and my fiancé and we had dated back in high school and broke up for a few years then ran into each other online. As for one night stands/casual things - same story. Anything casual and they met in real life most of the … | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/10/23 04:39 AM |
| 0 | Women Are Also Blue-Pilled (Deep Insights)Me: “hey what you want is not the only valid form of relationship and judging all relationships by that is myopic. People express and receive love differently” You: “you’re neurotic and I’m not reading that” But sure I’m the one with problems x have a great day babe xx | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/10/23 03:31 AM |
| -1 | Women Are Also Blue-Pilled (Deep Insights)So I get that but I think you’re projecting what you want onto other people. Obviously those things are important to you - lots of sex and your partner doing what you want. But neither of those things are the only way to express sexual attraction and care for a partner. My fiancé feels loved and cared for when I wake up and bring him coffee in bed. He adores it. He loves little acts of service. He feels cared for when I give him a massage after a long work week. So that’s how I show him I care f… | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/10/23 01:15 AM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageNah you just responded to a comment aboht them having an active sex life with a denial that they love each other. I probably know my parents better than you know my parents. So I’m likely a better authority on their love than you are…..because unlike you I actually see them interact and have years of experience with them. But whatever helps you sleep at night! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 02:46 PM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageAlright then, you definitely know my parents better than me based off one comment about them having an active sex life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 06:03 AM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageI mean yeah, had the room next to them for over a decade. Was it gross because it’s my parents? Sure. But old folks homes have super high rates of STDs because it turns out people still want to have sex even when they’re old. Unless you’re going celibate at the first sign of a wrinkle, maybe chill out a little. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/23 06:02 AM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageI don’t know what to tell you. Either my mum isn’t actually the ball-busting feminists she says she is and does her “duty” on the regular, or my parents are genuinely in love and still like having sex. Whichever makes you feel better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 09:30 PM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageI know right????? Its disgusting they pretended so well for so long. But hey, it’s better than the alternative - imagine if they actually loved each other and were happy….wouldn’t that be horrific /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 09:29 PM |
| – | People are so naive when it comes to marriageHah, your parents only acted in front of your eyes? Mine would mime sex noises on the regular late at night and then scurry to the bathroom to really sell it. Sometimes they’d even mime the actual sex itself in case on of us walked i . At least, that’s what I tell myself as I try to repress the horror of having the bedroom next to theirs for 14 years….. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/23 04:15 PM |
| 2 | How attractive do you usually find your female friends' boyfriends/situationships/fwb/ons?My friends when they’re seeing someone ALWAYS say “he looks better in person!” Like yeah, maybe, and I’m happy for you but I still don’t think he’s hot. But you do and that’s great! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 04:50 PM |
| 4 | Does female bonding sound as artificial as I think it does? Or is this how women genuinely feel?I mean, I said the things I said because I don't understand that mode of communication, but logically, intellectually, I can see where you're coming from, and there is a kind of sense to it. I don't mean to suggest that it's not a valid thing to do or way to be with people. Oh I don’t think you were suggesting that at all! I’m not trying to suggest your way is inherently bad either btw. In my experience women are socialised to do it and when we get older we sort of figure out if we actually want… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 03:17 PM |
| 2 | How attractive do you usually find your female friends' boyfriends/situationships/fwb/ons?Same here. Only time I’ve had similar taste to someone is when my sister and I were driving, she was shooting glances at the car next to us, said “he’s cute” And then she freaked because she realised it was my ex. Friends though? Nah. One of my now-bridesmaids described my now-fiancé as “cute in the way a puppy is cute. I wouldn’t fuck a puppy” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 09:24 AM |
| 22 | Does female bonding sound as artificial as I think it does? Or is this how women genuinely feel?I understand that perspective but mine is this (as a woman lol) Its nice to make people feel good about themselves. A small compliment can really brighten someone’s day. Quite often I think those small things (I love those shoes, her makeup is really good, her hair looks lovely, I love that outfit) and there’s no harm done by mentioning that. For personal reasons I try and keep it to stuff that is within a persons control (I don’t say “wow you’re beautiful” I compliment something they actively c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/10/23 06:35 AM |
| 6 | Population collapse: The worldwide Hell that is comingI dunno my guy, one of mine and my older sisters reasons fo not have kids is that unless things change fast, their lives will likely be far harder than ours. My country has a housing crisis, an increasing wealth gap, shit is expensive and the middle class is increasingly unable to pay for things. I would not be able to afford the kind of life I’d want to give my kid the way my parents or grandparents could working less skilled jobs. And I don’t want a kid to grow up dirt poor and with less acces… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/23 12:24 AM |
| 2 | 8-9 inches are the sizes that make girls orgasm the most.I mean yeah but the original post was saying 8-9inches are the size that make women orgasm the most. Which I think is a baseless claim, especially when backed up by an ad for a big dick specific dating website. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 01:16 PM |
| 1 | 8-9 inches are the sizes that make girls orgasm the most.I don’t have to imagine I am a women whose been aroused and I gotta tell you, I’ve never liked anything hitting that far back. It just hurts. Vaginas do lengthen during sex, but they start when unaroused at around….1.5ish-4ish inches (on average it’s between those lengths) and can lengthen when aroused go around 4-8 inches on average. Not every vagina can accomodate a giant dick because every vagina is different and can only stretch so much. Many people do not like feeling that stuffed and even … | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 01:00 PM |
| 1 | Describe some of the things you find attractive about your partner and/or the gender of your preference without mentioning anything about physical appearancesIm so glad you asked because now I get to be more specific. Yes people have said they aren’t ok. Me going over and checking on them (I just say “hey is everything ok?) most of the time they’re fine or say they’re fine, but they always say thanks for checking. A few people have actually needed help. I’ve gotten water and fries so they can sober up and go home, I’ve listened to girls cry about a fight with their partners or friends, or lent them my phone to call their friends because they lost the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 12:49 PM |
| 1 | 8-9 inches are the sizes that make girls orgasm the most.Sir I have a genuine question What is a fornix and why do you think they want it hit and stretched? | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 08:15 AM |
| -2 | be careful with LTRs if there wasn't attraction at first sightEh I mean I understand the trepidation but more so because it indicates sexual and romantic compatibility than anything else. I was not sexually attracted to my fiancé when we met. I thought he was attractive, but I wasn’t attracted to him. I appreciated his appearance the way I appreciate a painting. Pretty to look at, not tempted to fuck it. I got to know him and suddenly he was the hottest thing in the world to me. And now it’s been 6 years and we’re engaged and we are stupidly happy together… | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/10/23 03:25 AM |
| 2 | Describe some of the things you find attractive about your partner and/or the gender of your preference without mentioning anything about physical appearancesOh my gosh let me just GUSH for a second. how excited he gets when he’s telling me about something he learned The way he’ll always notice a girl looking worried and standing/sitting alone and send me to check if she’s ok how he hums when he cooks when he’s gaming and it gets serious and he has to lean in and his brow furrows how willing he is to be affectionate. In public, or at home. Every chance we get one of us is seeking out the other to hold hands or hug or just squish our shoulders togethe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/23 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: WYR be everyone’s 5 or some peoples 10?I already found my yum that yums me. Just curious what the men here think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 12:26 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: WYR be everyone’s 5 or some peoples 10?Thanks for your answer! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: WYR be everyone’s 5 or some peoples 10?Alright, well make the 5 a 6.5-7 then? I should have reworded the title, but the question itself and the edit makes it clearer what I meant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 03:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: WYR be everyone’s 5 or some peoples 10?Why not answer for all three? I think 50% is less niche and more an equal share at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 03:24 AM |
| 5 | Q4M: WYR be everyone’s 5 or some peoples 10?I am a woman who talks to other women. I’ve heard multiple womens perspectives in my real life. Why not ask men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/23 03:22 AM |
| 5 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveSo every woman you’ve ever wanted has wanted you back? EDIT: personality doesn’t always correlate with what someone find attractive. Those shy “good girls” and “wild types” you mentioned wanted the same kind of thing - yourself or your friends. That doesn’t mean every “shy good girl” or “wild girl” will want you. It means those ones did. My sister and I are very similar in personality, values, etc. We like entirely different things in men. We find different things attractive. Because people don’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 11:56 PM |
| – | Should men be expected to intervene when random women are in trouble?I mean a random person should do what they can, ideally. Its the kind thing to do. But intervening doesn’t have to be physically intervening - not everyone is able to do that safely, and it can make a situation worse. You can call for help, call security, you can draw attention to a situation if it’s in public to try and get a group together to help. Like….Recently, on a bus, I was happily listening to my music super loudly with my new headphones (fantastic noise cancelling headphones) and compl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 05:16 PM |
| 12 | The "spark" is just nonsense that women say when a guy is attractiveDifferent women want different things though? Like, unless you’ve had sex with every woman you’ve ever approached…..then yeah, you’ve not met some peoples criteria. Because attraction is different for different people. Some people are broadly considered attractive and have more mass appeal, but even they won’t appeal to everyone for whatever reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/09/23 02:05 PM |
| 2 | Women are not attracted to liberal men or feminists, no matter what they sayHard agree. Sexiest thing my fiancé ever did was when I saw him call out one of his high school friends who was being problematic. And my fiancé has anxiety. Confrontation terrifies him. And he did it anyway. He’s one of the bravest men I know. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/09/23 08:14 AM |
| 1 | If all men want is sex, and women aren't special, why does it matter what a woman's body count is?Saying “well that’s how it’s always been!” Isn’t convincing to me, sorry. For thousands of years people eked out a living hunting deer and sleeping in the dirt - and sure some people today would be happier doing that, but many wouldn’t be and shouldn’t have to just because it’s how humans existed for thousands of years. People were together for survival of personal happiness. We no longer NEED to marry to survive. We don’t have to have kids. We have choices now. I’m not sure why you’ve tied obes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 11:46 AM |
| 1 | Why do people assume that the father is always the reason why the child is ugly, and not the mother?I’m not arguing that. I’m just saying, if you’re saying “only tall people should reproduce” that isn’t a good solution. A better solution is just letting people be themselves and not demonising people for stuff they can’t control. Like yeah, some people will never be tall and that means some women won’t be attracted to them - but why not focus on the women who are attracted to them instead of being mad at the ones who aren’t? Why not try and focus on steering society away from judging worth base… | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Why do people assume that the father is always the reason why the child is ugly, and not the mother?And because genes aren’t a copy paste kinda deal even those tall people could have short kids. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Why do people assume that the father is always the reason why the child is ugly, and not the mother?I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. Genetics are a lottery. You get 50% of genes from each parent but you don’t know what genes make up that 50%. You don’t know what traits will and won’t express themselves, yknow? Going back to my family - My grandpa was over 6 foot and my dad is 5”7 grandma was also taller than average for a woman). My 5”7 dad and 5”5 mum managed to birth my Brother who is 5”11. Genetics isn’t an exact science. Also…..even if I agreed with you…If women are to blame, then … | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 11:06 AM |
| 1 | If all men want is sex, and women aren't special, why does it matter what a woman's body count is?I don’t think that’s universally true. It is also, in my opinion, a poor system. If virginity is the most valuable asset above all else (to men) …. Like I said, a woman’s virginal status doesn’t indicate any of the myriad of factors that go into creating a healthy and happy relationship and life. It’s just a poor foundation for a relationship. It’s illogical to me to care most about that. I mean sure, preferences exist and I’m not gonna shame people who want someone with similar values - if you’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:54 AM |
| 3 | CMV The biggest fear of a Women in Dating is getting Pump and dumped, the biggest fear off a Man is not beeing seen as sexually desirable by his Girl.The mortifying and terrifying prospect of being able to suddenly know what everyone I respect and admire thinks of me and finding out my worst fears are confirmed and that they all think I’m a terrible, irredeemable person, an annoying waste of space who is selfish with a hideously malformed soul and that for the last 26 years I’ve just not had the self awareness to realise all that about myself….. Also, ending up in a ditch | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/23 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Why do people assume that the father is always the reason why the child is ugly, and not the mother?I’ve got some thoughts. You open with “people” assume this but close with “women”. I gotta say i disagree with this - I’ve seen men and women blame either parent for passing on less than favourable looks. That being said I have seen dads being blamed more than mums. I think it’s usually meant as a cheap shot insult, not to be taken seriously. It’s an insult to men and women “your mum should’ve fucked a hotter guy” implies that A) dad is ugly (obviously) And b) the mum couldn’t do any better. To … | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/09/23 05:02 AM |
| 2 | If all men want is sex, and women aren't special, why does it matter what a woman's body count is?This is a genuine question but…..why is that the most valuable asset? I wouldn’t say that Harriet Tubmans most valuable asset was her body count/ability to have sex. Marie Curie’s sex life is less notable than her scientific achievements. I’m not sure why virginity is considered the most Valuable asset when you can’t build a life on that. It’s transient. Virginity doesn’t indicate how kind or thoughtful or smart someone is. It doesn’t guarantee that you are moral or good. It’s just a state of be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 02:51 PM |
| 5 | Do you think that in the age of equality, we should push for a 50/50 dating culture?Ideally, yeah - within reason. If I was single and I asked out someone and insisted on going to an expensive restaurant they couldn’t afford…..I’d cover most/all their bill because I was the one who wanted to go. But I think in general, especially in a cost of living crisis, encouraging people to split dates equitably is a good move. Whether is splitting dates and then later on trading off who pays or whatever, or someone buying the pizza while the other pays for dessert, moving towards splittin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/23 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Why are women so fixated with respect?Just wanna offer a similar but different view which I know seems contradictory but bear with me….. So when it comes to “respect” and “entitled to sex”, I think there’s a bit of confusion? I can’t speak for all women, but in my experience with the women I’ve talked to, we’ve usually meant many people have not respected us when we turned them down. And many people have! Countless men have been chill and not affected if I’ve turned down the offer for a drink, or a date, or a dance. But some men hav… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 10:43 AM |
| 3 | Why are women so fixated with respect?Yeah I agree with you here. A man being nice to me because I’m a woman and for that fact alone is still seeing me as my gender and not as a human being. I should’ve put that in my comment tbh, but I haven’t experienced as much of that as I have what I listed. Also some of the “simps” and “nice guys” go so overboard with the niceness that is has the same effect of ignoring my wishes. One of the few experiences I had with a “nice guy” was that he insisted on trying to carry my books at uni. Even t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Being nice is irrelevant if you as a man are not sure whether a woman is interested on you or not.I mean yeah he approached because he thought I was hot….I know that. But there’s a difference between having a conversation and us feeling each other out (mental chemistry check) to acting solely on physical attraction. I personally need more than just base physical attraction to feel attracted to someone. It’s like - if I notice a person who is attractive, my brain doesn’t immediately want to sleep with them. I am not filled with primal lust. I just notice they are attractive. But if we get on,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 09:00 AM |
| 3 | Why are women so fixated with respect?Hey woman here! Thought I’d give a woman’s perspective. Disclaimer: Not speaking for all women, we aren’t a hive mind, and when I refer to “men” or “people” in this post I’m not saying all people are guilty of the behaviours I’ve outlined, because men aren’t a hive mind either. Now that’s out of the way…… In my case, and the case of other women in my life, to be treated with respect usually means: 1: To not be undermined or undervalued on the basis of our gender. This is pretty difficult to expl… | /r/AllPillDebate | 11/09/23 08:50 AM |
| 1 | Being nice is irrelevant if you as a man are not sure whether a woman is interested on you or not.I mean, another woman here - I’ve never been into people who have only ever said “hi” and the. Immediately hit on me. I immediately know they’re only interested in me physically and, call me crazy, but I like having some sort of mental chemistry with a person. People are different. For some people, physical attraction is enough. For some it isn’t. Neither is inherently bad or good, it’s what the other person in the interaction prefers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/23 07:06 AM |
| 1 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.And I think that’s unkind. But you already knew that surely - that’s the last line of my original comment. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/09/23 03:45 PM |
| 3 | What is considered “settling”?Settling is, to me at least, a very active decision. It’s choosing to be/stay with someone who does not fulfil you emotionally. Who does not inspire love (they might inspire affection, gratitude, desire, platonic love etc….but not romantic love. They also might not bring forth any of those feelings at all). It also looks different to different people. It depends on what you prioritise. Settling is different to compromise - settling will make you feel actively resentful or disappointed or like yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/23 01:39 PM |
| 5 | Women who frequent spaces like these are honestly patheticI dunno I just think it’s kinda weird to say “women here in this sub that’s advertised as a debate sub for issues about gender and gender relations are pathetic”. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/09/23 09:59 PM |
| 17 | Women who frequent spaces like these are honestly patheticI’m so confused - this is a debate sub. Do you not want to discuss with people who have opposing views? | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/09/23 09:48 PM |
| 2 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleLook i don’t want to be rude so I’m gonna be honest with you here - I’ve sort of lost patience for explaining myself here. I gave my reasons for why I had my opinion in my original comment. I gave the reason for why I shared my opinion to you. That is all there is to the story. This is a subreddit where people critique others preferences all the time. I critiqued a preference, same as many other people in this sub and even on this post. If you do not see the point in critiquing preferences, that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/23 09:45 AM |
| 2 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleI mean what do you mean by “bothers me personally?” Does it keep me up at night? Do I lose sleep? Am I on a mission to prevent every age gap relationship in case it’s toxic? No. If it’s brought up will I offer my two cents? Yeah. It’s a debate sub. Someone asserts an opinion, people challenge or agree. I genuinely don’t know how else to explain this? This topic doesn’t rank in my “top 10 things I care about”. I - it’s a debate sub? We share our opinions and argue them? Why do you care that I mad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 10:37 PM |
| 1 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleI mean yeah it’s a media trope and it’s a bad one. The “I can fix him/her” trope is awful and sends people the wrong message. Everything from the Professor and Eliza in “My Fair Lady” to “Cruel Intentions” teaches people that their partner is a project instead of a person. This isn’t to say people don’t change in relationships, but small changes like how often a person cleans is extremely different to trying to make them into a whole new person. Relationships involve compromise and it’s normal t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 10:11 PM |
| 2 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleI mean, is this not a debate sub where issues with peoples preferences are constantly critiqued? Every height, body count, etc post ever is about people’s preferences and everyone argues over why they agree or disagree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 10:00 PM |
| 1 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are Terrible….yeah that’s my point. You deal with it, you get better at dealing with it. Swimmers lungs adjust so they can hold their breath for longer. You lift weights, you can train yourself to lift more. The stuff weighing you down today might not weigh you down as much in a year if you train yourself to handle it with healthy coping mechanisms etc. It’s not always linear and it’s not always consistent - but like, some days if I’m tired I struggle to run 5ks, where the week before I could no problem. Th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 02:50 PM |
| 3 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleI didn’t say it was a dealbreaker for me, my guy, I said a preference and a dealbreaker are different. My dealbreakers are irrelevant because I am engaged. But hypothetically if I were single and had a strong enough connection with someone I’d be open to exploring it I just wouldn’t actively chase it down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleIf your baggage is fucking up your life, you haven’t dealt with it. My various baggage affected me, and sometimes I affects me still. Hasn’t fucked up my life for a long time. I was devestated over various things in my childhood and you g adulthood that, with work and time, no longer control me. I feel badly about them still, but I’m significant anniversaries more than anything. Day-to-day, i function normally. Because I deal with my baggage. Think of it like grief - some people grieve hard and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleYour baggage may cause a couple bad days, but if it’s fucking your life up then you don’t have a handle on it and need help - from family, friends, professionals. Because everyone has baggage. Being bullied as a kid, fear of rejection/abandonment, generational poverty, being demonised for things out of their control, trauma, grief, loss, poverty….to name a few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 01:04 PM |
| 7 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerriblePreference is PREFERRING something. I prefer pistacchio ice cream to chocolate. Given the choice, I’ll choose pistacchio. But I won’t turn my nose up at chocolate when pistacchio isn’t available. If a person is only going for people who are younger than them, that means age is a dealbreaker. Which….ok, but does it scale? Or will the 30 yr old who only dates 19-21 yr olds become a 60 yr old only dating 19-21 yr olds? That’s where it gets worrying. That’s when I’d wonder if the 50 yr old should do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 01:00 PM |
| 4 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleFrom my perspective, it’s not the baggage it’s how you carry it. My fiancé has baggage from a rough childhood. That shouldn’t exclude him from having a happy relationship. If he was unable to carry his baggage that would be different. I’ll happily Help him with it when needed, but he’s very good at not letting his experiences negatively affect our relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 09:56 AM |
| 8 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleIn your opinion! I just offered mine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 09:54 AM |
| 23 | Most of the arguments against Age Gap Relationships are TerribleEhhh my main issue with age gaps are these; 1: is the older person ONLY going for young people? 2: Is one of the main reasons the older person is dating the younger the fact that they are young? I see people say (here and on other parts of the internet) that they want a younger person because they want someone to “mold” or they “don’t have baggage”. I agree that it’s not good when your partners have affects you and your relationship, but everyone has baggage. And the idea of moulding someone to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 08:30 AM |
| 5 | Straight (or bisexual women in straight relationships), how common is it for you to lie to your male partners to spare their ego? Is it a good thing?DISCLAIMER: I’m only talking about orgasms and skill here. I’ve never really had a preference for size. Look….Im bi with a fiancé. I have 2 exes (both men) and a smattering of casual hook ups with Men and women. So that’s my experience with it. When I was young I lied about enjoying it when I didn’t. For context - I was 17 when I lost my virginity. Prior to they, my first ever boyfriend >!did a cheeky little sexual assault. I joke so I don’t cry!> AND I grew up catholic. And I didn’t know I was … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 05:03 AM |
| 4 | Why do men find it attractive when women have no body hair?Shaving used to be associated with prostitution (pubic lice was a gross thing) at least it was in Europe for a long while. Ancient Greece preferred hairless ness on men and women. In the early 20th century razor companies started marketing to women by making ads promoting smooth legs + armpits etc were more attractive. It later graduated to genitals as well. The companies realised if they made a reason up for women to need razors, they could double their profits. The trend of shorter + sleeveles… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 04:22 AM |
| 1 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.I was invited to this sub when it began by a member, when it was small, because I was capable of staying mostly level headed in a debate. So that’s what I’m here for - debate. What exactly are you debating for? I said why I’m debating. In fact you actually quoted me saying why I was debating - because I don’t agree with the ideology. As for the rest of it…you can have your opinions, and I have mine. And we can disagree. Rarely have I seen feminism or feminists encouraging women to have sex just … | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/09/23 02:14 AM |
| 1 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.You’re assuming a lot about me. Which is fine, I can’t control what you think nor would I want to, but I do have the power to offer my perspective in opposition….yknow, kind of like I was doing in this thread. I was invited to this sub when it began by a member, when it was small, because I was capable of staying mostly level headed in a debate. So that’s what I’m here for - debate. I don’t agree with RP ideology so I think it’s a good thing to periodically pop in and oppose those ideas because … | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 10:29 PM |
| -1 | I don't know why people call me a misogynistHey not trying to attack you here at all, just wanna lead with that. You say women need 3 requirements for you to like them - kindness is an important quality for men and women, and I don’t judge you for not liking unkind people. But virginity and attractiveness are not predictors of a persons quality of personality, I guess, and if your like or respect for a woman is dependent on that….. (In before someone says “but virginity is important!” Sure to some people. But people who aren’t virgins are… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 04:05 PM |
| 1 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.You seem to think I take this personally. I don’t. I didn’t accuse anyone of saying anything. I just explained my POV on why I don’t believe a persons sexual history is indicative of character, or inherently negative. I don’t think it’s inherently bad to have preferences when it comes to sexual partners or romantic partners. I just think we shouldn’t needlessly degrade people who don’t fit our standards. And the word whore is derogatory. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 06:48 AM |
| 1 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.I mean for some of them it probably hurts their feelings. But I doubt it keeps many of them up at night. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/09/23 06:44 AM |
| -2 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.I personally disagree. Some of the most disciplined and moral women I know have extensive sexual histories. People are just people. Some are good, some are bad. Some are both. They’re nuanced and complex. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 10:02 PM |
| -1 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.I think maybe just don’t be a dick, my guy. A woman’s sexual history doesn’t mean she is a bad or imoral person. A woman who is a virgin can be cruel and imoral and a woman with a large amount of previous sexual partners can be kind and good. Sexual history does not automatically equal good person or bad person. And the word whore is derogatory is nature. Continuing on, a woman who doesn’t need much encouragement to have sex will likely have it with it without that encouragement from her peers. … | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 08:03 PM |
| 5 | I won't date a woman unless she's virgin.That’s your preference and that’s fine! Only care if you shame women for not being virgins. That’s just sour grapes. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/09/23 01:04 PM |
| 9 | Has the pendulum swung to far?Hard agree. My fiancé has professed that he wants to earn enough so I don’t have to work and focus on my writing I’ve told him we had a trial run of that when my work was closed during covid and the lack of routine and pulling the majority share of housework made me feel crazy. I’d rather us both work. If I won the lottery I’d still want a part time job, at least to keep busy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 05:31 AM |
| -1 | Why do females say “About Last Night”Why does it matter? I’m not trying to be rude or anything just genuinely asking why it matters so much what their caption is? What they’re posting? Especially if you don’t know them - like, if you are in a relationship and you and your partner both agreed to not post on Instagram, sure (I don’t agree with that but hey if everyone involved is fine with it whatever) But why get frustrated with people you don’t know posting pictures with an overused caption. It seems like a waste of energy and time… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/09/23 03:28 PM |
| 4 | "Women don't like you because you have a negative attitude!"Oh definitely - I know shit people in and out of relationships. Relationship does not equal moral purity. And apologies if I came down super hard. I’m a huge history nerd and the six wives and their achievements and failings were a huge passion of mine a few years ago. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 04:13 PM |
| 4 | "Women don't like you because you have a negative attitude!"Sorry I’m not sure the letter is a good opener for your argument. Look at how the letter ends - she’s asking for her maids to get dowries I believe, and also for her servants unpaid wages PLUS a year to be given to them. She’s hardly gonna berate and chastise him when she’s asking him for favours. Also, her daughters future rests on her fathers affection. Catherine wasn’t gonna jeopardise that by scolding and demeaning him. Catherine had no power, no agency, no prospects. For years she proclaime… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/09/23 01:37 PM |
| 6 | If a woman has difficulty coming to orgasm, that's not my problemEhhhhhh Orgasms aren’t standardised my guy. My fiancé can get me off incredibly quickly, because after 6 years of having consistent sex he’s so in tune with my body and my needs and how I liked to be touched that it’s stupidly easy. Only times I don’t get off is when I get too in my head - which is rare and entirely not his fault. I’ve had sex with other guys who didn’t even bother with foreplay and they seemed surprised when I didn’t get off. That IS their problem, because not engaging in forep… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/23 01:20 PM |
| 2 | Is the orgasm gap simply caused by men being worse sexual partners overall? Or is it down to the physiology and/or physchology of women making it more difficult for them?Former catholic here! Went to church and everything, did classes in school, catholic school yada yada. There are official teachings handed down by the pope, but a lot of parishes and priests differ on interpretation. For example - many catholic priests in my area are fine with homosexuality because Jesus said love thy neighbour. Many more aren’t. Sermons and homilies are entirely the priest finding lessons within scripture to expound upon to their congregation - I’ve heard the sermon on the moun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/23 04:06 PM |
| 2 | Women should be banned from this subExactly!!! The sub has “debate” in the name. Without opposing views, there’s no debate. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/08/23 02:51 AM |
| 1 | 51% OF YOUNG MEN ARE SINGLE WHILE ONLY 27% OF YOUNG WOMEN ARE!!!!!To add on - I read that study and about a third of the single men in their 20s weren’t actually looking for a serious or casual relationship (iirc) And in that study - there was a gap between what women and men wanted. More women were looking for serious relationships. So……yeah this checks out. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/08/23 10:41 PM |
| 0 | What’s more psychologically damaging; a guy being put into the friend zone or a woman being put into the fuck zone?Actual psychologically damaging? I mean it depends on the person. If you’ve been put in the “fuck zone” by every guy you’ve been friends with, maybe you end up unable to trust men in general. Maybe your boyfriend has a girl best friend and your experiences leave you unable to believe he doesn’t secretly want her. Maybe you end up feeling insecure because everyone only wants you for your body and you start believing that’s all your good for. If you’ve been out in the friend zone by every girl you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/23 04:38 AM |
| 2 | Serious question: why the hate to single women are not given to nuns?It’s not just about ability to make it work, it’s about priorities. Some people feel that a relationship would compromise their study/career too much. They have goals and a relationship doesn’t factor into it yet and they don’t want to risk their goals for a relationship. Some people might not have the time between work and study - they might have a hard time studying and need extra time devoted to it, they could fit a relationship in but at the expense of that extra time learning. Some people d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 05:22 AM |
| 3 | 50-50 doesn't work because men actually have to do more than the woman in order for the relationship to surviveEhhhhh I mean 50/50 is a flawed concept in relationships because it’s never gonna be equal all the time. Long example but - recently, my fiancé and I caught the flu. Horrid time. When we get sick, he usually is down first. He’ll notice he’s feeling funny and the next day he is absolutely ripped to shreds by illness. He will be extremely sick for up to 4ish days, and then he will slowly get better over the course of the next week. Me? I’m the opposite. I have a long build up to being properly “si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 05:08 AM |
| 2 | How do red pillers explain the average guy being in a relationship?Your assumption is right - I am a woman. I think……love, sex, physical attraction, romance, it’s all a lot more complicated than people try to make it. The feelings are simple but the reasons why we have them are complicated, I guess. I know from my own personal experience that physical attraction for me is never instant. For me, physical attraction is extremely reliant on how compatible I am with someone personality wise. And I think with love….well, as much as people scoff at old couples saying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 02:28 AM |
| 3 | How do red pillers explain the average guy being in a relationship?I’m extremely sorry you were abused….and I’m really glad you’re ok. Love shouldn’t have to hurt the way yours did. I hope that, if you ever fall in love again, it’s with someone who won’t hurt you. ETA: that being said, your story and your experience is unfortunately one of many. I myself was a victim not of violence, but assault, at the hands of a partner I trusted. I have met and known many women and men who were victims of violence. And most said that with hindsight they could see the red fla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 01:27 AM |
| 2 | How do red pillers explain the average guy being in a relationship?I’d suggest reading up on domestic violence and why people stay in those relationships. Many people do not start out abusive. Many abusers lead with their best foot forward and it isn’t until they are sure their partner won’t leave (after marriage or pregnancy or moving in together) that the abuse properly starts. There are warning signs but when you love someone it can be easy to wave those away. Many victims of DV are also isolated by their abuser, from family and friends. Many are also made f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/23 12:52 AM |
| 3 | The whole worship of women has now extended to women pretending to be gay/bisexual to further hype them up. Now you constantly see comments and memes by women about how “hot” other women are in a sexual tone, it’s really irritating especially considering gay men are still heavily stigmatizedYknow you posted on a debate sub and yet I’m not seeing much debate from you. If you have an actual rebuttal I’d love to hear it…..my guy | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/08/23 05:54 PM |
| 1 | The whole worship of women has now extended to women pretending to be gay/bisexual to further hype them up. Now you constantly see comments and memes by women about how “hot” other women are in a sexual tone, it’s really irritating especially considering gay men are still heavily stigmatizedI dunno my guy, like, a lot of the women leaving those comments may very well be bi or queer? A 2021 report estimated that 1 in 6 Gen Z adults were identifying as LGBT in the US. A 2022 UK study reported around 1 in 10 women between 16-24 were identifying as LGBT. Something like 6% of women in the US identify as LGBT, and 4% of men (as of 2020). Roughly 10 million women. Like….as a queer woman, i definitely think there’s a conversation to be had about how various sexualities are stigmatised (For… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/08/23 05:01 PM |
| 3 | Discussion : Are you being settled for or a beta bux if you managed to attract a girl primarily because of your personality and chemistry?Depends - I mean different strokes for different folks. I have never really felt instant chemistry with someone. Someone being attractive does not equal attraction. Chemistry can be so much more than just looks and is dependent on a host of factors. People are different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 03:39 PM |
| 1 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?This comment? Boring. Gives me nothing to go off of or respond to. This is what people shouldn’t do! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/23 03:52 AM |
| 1 | 6 pack and muscles is the biggest cope i've ever seen.6 packs are entirely dependent on genetics - in that, it depends on how many horizontal connective bands of tissue in the abdomen you were born with. Some people will only get a 2 pack, or a 4 pack, some people can get a 6/8 pack. But it’s definitely not easy to get if you don’t have the required amount of connective bands in the abdomen to begin with. | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 11:08 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: could you use very good friendships and a vibrant social life to replace the need for sex ?Yeah, I could do that. No shade to my fiancé - I love him, I desire him, I am devoted to him. But if we should break up (god forbid) or if anything happened….. I’d miss him terribly. I’d be devestated. But I’d miss sex with HIM not sex in general. If I’m horny I have vibrators and erotica and my hands. That’s not an issue. I’d miss the companionship more. The mundane aspects of love and relationships you take for granted after a while. I’d miss having someone to fight over blankets with, or wash… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/23 04:06 PM |
| 3 | I don’t think enough attention is given to how much of a difference makeup makes in a woman’s appearance and how it is socially acceptable for women to essentially reap enormous privilege by wearing a fucking disguiseThe kind of makeup needed to dramatically alter your face is not really possible to do with a “natural” look unless you’re an amazingly skilled MUA. Its quite heavy work and doesn’t work with natural looks that well because of it, so for full glam it works better. “Natural makeup” for most people is skin tint, light mascara, maybe some blush and concealer and eyebrow gel, possibly a swipe of nude eyeshadow or a tiny bit of bronzer. And that doesn’t change how your features look - it smooths out … | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/08/23 03:59 PM |
| 1 | What do you make of a woman who regularly dates older men?Can’t speak for all women but generally, in my experience, yeah. One of the issues with age gap relationships that people grow concerned about are then power dynamics. An 18 yr old and a 30 yr old likely don’t have a lot in common - one is fresh out of high school, not much experience in the “adult” world, probably not completely financially independent, probably doesn’t have an established career, probably hasn’t had a relationship that’s been tested by things like living together, etc. A 30 yr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 10:37 PM |
| 8 | in which direction do you think your marriage or relationship will go if we went into another lockdown ?It’s something that confuses me - I see a lot of couples who seem to be very dismissive of each others interests and passions. They mock their partner for gaming, or enjoying fashion, or writing, or liking certain musicians. And not even on a playful way, there’s a mean edge to it that seems so contemptuous. Why would you be with someone who you don’t respect? My fiancé doesn’t understand my Obsession with certain things but he’s always very supportive. And I don’t get his passions but they’re h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 12:11 PM |
| 14 | in which direction do you think your marriage or relationship will go if we went into another lockdown ?Oh we’d be fine. It’d be tough, no doubt. I’m sure we’d get annoyed at each other, but my fiancé is my favourite person to spend time with. He’s a riot to have around. Honestly we sometimes joke if we ended up in a bunker for the rest of our lives we’d be ok. We’re both pretty content with each others company and have a lot of fun fucking around doing nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/23 11:24 AM |
| 1 | [Questions for Bluepillers] Something I don't understand about you lotYou honestly believe that people who don’t agree with “red pill” (because that’s all blue pill is - not taking the red pill, it has no identity outside of its relation to RP) are alright with what you mentioned, across the board? I’m not offended by your beliefs. They don’t apply to me. I’m more confused - it’s such an extreme representation. You’re asking for reasonable debate from a group you’re characterising as wholly unreasonable, a group you’re saying is in favour of women creating harm, w… | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/08/23 11:03 AM |
| 4 | [Questions for Bluepillers] Something I don't understand about you lotSorry my guy, this feels like a set up of an argument, and not a discussion/debate in good faith. By characterising those things as core beliefs of blue pill, you’re characterising anyone who isn’t red pilled/black pilled as ridiculous. You’re starting with a straw man. I would be happy to explain why I am not pilled at all and counter your points, but if the starting position is that blue pill doesn’t care when men are raped, or that we’d let a woman abuse POC because of her gender…..that’s not… | /r/AllPillDebate | 22/08/23 05:26 AM |
| 0 | Earning more and getting fit isn't always the solution for romantic relationships.. understanding a woman's emotional needs is."I think you might’ve misunderstood me, or I didn’t explain myself as well as I could’ve When I say money goes quick, what I mean is that unexpected crap can happen that tanks your savings. You lose your job. You get sick. Accidents, maybe a poor investment if you have money to invest. Money now is not a guarantee of money later. ETA: honestly choosing based on inner traits not outward ones seems to me to be a better way of choosing partners. The outward traits are the icing, but the idea that yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/23 01:29 AM |
| 2 | Earning more and getting fit isn't always the solution for romantic relationships.. understanding a woman's emotional needs is."The most valuable quality my partner has is his emotional intelligence. Granted this doesn’t mean he always understands my emotions - and I don’t always understand his! - but he can process his emotions in a healthy way 90% of the time. We have very strong communication and a lot of mutual trust and affection because of this. The stuff the RP talks about - gym, money, etc - that might be good for short term connections, but if you’re wanting to build a life with someone, create a home and a fami… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 07:26 PM |
| 1 | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksI don’t blame you for not being read up on dating culture in a whole other hemisphere. The idea that you can just go out without a wallet in America (if you’re a woman) and get drinks given to you apropos of nothing is a culture shock to me. Most stuff this sub brings up seems strange to me tbh - differences in dating cultures I’m guessing. Honestly, my friends in Melbourne have been offered free coke far more than free drinks from strangers. But even then they usually talked to the strangers fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 05:24 PM |
| 1 | Women choose wrong Men. Chromosome Y: In LimelightAhhh that’s an excellent question! And the answer is - science isn’t quite sure. Baldness is definitely genetic….but it also depends on your ethnicity or even more specifically which country. Like Greek men are particularly prone to baldness, for example. Speaking of ethnicity, it’s definitely true that compared to black men and Asian men, Caucasian and Latin men are more likely to go bald. Even the ways you can start losing their hair are more common in some ethnicities over others. Point being… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 05:21 PM |
| 3 | American woman in Australia feels ugly because she doesn't get free drinksAustralian woman here. What she’s describing - American men grabbing your arm and trying to buy you drinks, not bothering to bring your wallet because guys will entirely fund your night out - is not a common occurrence in Australia at all. At least not in Adelaide or Melbourne (the cities I’ve been to bars in). Usually you’ll chat a bit before someone offers a drink, and even then it’s definitely not a guarantee you’ll be offered one. It’s not a cultural expectation as much here I guess? At leas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/23 04:35 PM |
| 2 | Women choose wrong Men. Chromosome Y: In Limelight? I’m not sure I understand this argument at all. Now I don’t agree with RP at all, but something I’ve seen repeated often is that things found conventionally attractive are also markers of health and fertility in men and women. I’ve also seen it argued frequently that female hypergamy is innate and compels women to date up. Wouldn’t it follow that because women are inherently hypergamous and lots of conventionally attractive traits are also signifiers of health, that women are typically choosin… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/08/23 03:48 PM |
| 2 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?I mean how do we define interesting. Strictly speaking, interesting means “Arousing curiosity or interest; holding or catching attention”. I’m gonna tell you about one of my favourite people in the world. I’ll call her Gemma. Gemma is….I call her human sunshine. To anyone and everyone. Gemma and I have nothing in common. Gemma is probably one of the best people I know. Gemma is compassionate and generous. She has a warmth and a gentleness to her, but she stands up for herself and takes no shit. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 03:56 PM |
| 2 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Maybe! But I don’t know I’d consider you the best judge of that, considering you know nothing about me, or the people I like, beyond a couple sentences of vague information. I’m happy to disagree. Your thoughts are your own! But I’d caution against snap judgments when you have so few facts at your disposal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 03:04 PM |
| 3 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Autistic and ADHD. “Inside me there are two wolves” bullshit stuff. But you’re right! My experience and worldview isn’t typical of a neurotypical experience. But it’s still an experience. In my opinion, generalisations are a useful short hand for communicating broad concepts, but the fine details get lost if you’re only sketching the outer layers. You need the broad strokes, you need the details too. Maybe many people don’t hold My view, but I hold it. And I count. And I’m not saying this to be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 01:52 PM |
| 6 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?Oh yeah - that is a huge part of seeming likeable. They’ve done studies on this stuff, and people like you more when you express interest in them and what they’re talking about. They also are far more willing to express interest in what you’re talking about. That’s one of the reasons neurodivergent people can often make a poor first impression - we want to talk about our specific niche, and we are prone to info-dumping. Most of my friends are neurodivergent and our conversations are a back and f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 10:32 AM |
| 2 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?I guess we can agree to disagree on that! One of the most interesting people I know is what you’d call “boring”. Many people have rich inner lives and thoughts and ideas but just don’t know how to have a conversation. But we don’t have to agree on everything. Shits boring that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 10:24 AM |
| 28 | How to avoid being 'boring' to ladies?This question is so fun because myself and my fiancé are both autistic and we have literally discussed this before - how to not seem boring. The problem is, boring is subjective. I’m boring to some people, fascinating to others. BUT the best way to make a good impression and not seem boring when you’re talking to someone is; 1: Be interested in what they’re talking about. Ask questions when it’s natural, so it’s an exchange and not an info dump 2: When you’re talking, gauge their interest. You d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 07:06 AM |
| 1 | Should a person in a relationship be allowed to see other people if their partner doesn't want sex?I mean…..that’s different to what your describing though? One is voluntary and one is involuntary. You’re saying a woman choosing not to have sex indefinitely. You said in other comments chronic illness or injury are exceptions. So you’re saying a woman, for no clear reason, with no other extenuating factors, just doesn’t want to have sex for an indefinite period and refuses to. It’s a voluntary choice on her part to both abstain from sex and refuse to work on why. So using your analogy of a man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 05:29 AM |
| 4 | Should a person in a relationship be allowed to see other people if their partner doesn't want sex?Most doctors recommend 6 weeks to allow the body to heal. Different people take different time to heal after pregnancy and labour and until they’ve done it, no one, not even the person having the baby, will have any idea how long the recovery time is. My sister had an extremely long, complicated, painful labour - they tried a forceps delivery, and then a C-Section. The c section had complications that left her unable to look after herself for 3 weeks. She had trouble moving, she was recovering f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/23 05:04 AM |
| 13 | The things I've learned from 3 years of online dating from my own lived experience. What things have you learned?Oh yeah that’s a concern online and in real life. One guy very memorably texted me for an hour saying more and more vile things, finishing on I deserved to get raped to teach me a lesson. Another said that’s fine, he didn’t even like me anyway, I wouldn’t even be fuckable if he took me from behind with a bag over my head. Once I turned a guy down when he asked to buy me a drink. We’d been bantering a little in the line for the bar, something about drink prices and too loud music and how gross th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/23 04:48 AM |
| 1 | if women are with men for money, treating them badly is litteraly a reactionThe thing is humans don’t act solely on instinct anymore. I say instinct and not human nature because a) human nature is a broadly philosophical concept more than a scientific one and b) if we’re talking about inherent behaviours that aren’t learned and are instead innate from birth….we’re talking about instinct, drive, biological impulses. All humans do have survival instincts, but what separates us from other animals is we have the ability to reason and even change. Like - many people don’t wa… | /r/AllPillDebate | 17/08/23 02:10 AM |
| 0 | if women are with men for money, treating them badly is litteraly a reactionIf *some women Again, you think all women are going crazy for “chad”. “Chad” does not release some mystical pheromone that destroys a woman’s ability to reason and make decisions. | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 09:32 AM |
| 0 | if women are with men for money, treating them badly is litteraly a reactionI mean, what’s a Chad to you guys? I mean, I’ve seen Chad be anything from just tall (6”1 or over right?) to tall AND hot, to tall, hot AND rich, to just rich, to rich and fall, of rich and hot…. But you said even if Chad was a full time pot smoker, women would do anything to stay with him. So I’m guessing here you’re defining him as strictly tall and hot. So Tom Brady is a chad. 6”4, considered hot by many….on top of that he’s famous and wealthy. He marries the worlds highest earning (at the ti… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 06:30 AM |
| 0 | if women are with men for money, treating them badly is litteraly a reactionSo only if a woman has no boundaries and is slavishly codependent it counts as love? Nah. I don’t buy that. That’s not healthy love, or a healthy relationship. If my fiancé quit his job tomorrow I wouldn’t mind. We’d get by. If he refused to work ever again because he didn’t want to, I’d attempt to investigate this together in therapy. I’d try and compromise on part time work, sure. I’d tear my own hair out trying to find ways to figure out what’s going wrong. I’d want to make it work. I might e… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/08/23 04:56 AM |
| – | Newbie Question: Why do you think American Society and Hollywood "Sexualizes" Friendships but "Desexualizes" Relationships? (American Pie, Power Rangers, Hangover, Videoclub, PUA )Ohhhhh ok. Thanks. So I CAN eat it. Good to know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 04:49 AM |
| – | Newbie Question: Why do you think American Society and Hollywood "Sexualizes" Friendships but "Desexualizes" Relationships? (American Pie, Power Rangers, Hangover, Videoclub, PUA )What is this burger society and can I eat it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/23 04:28 AM |
| 1 | Women Assume The Worst Whenever A Man Leaves A Friendship After RejectionNumber 1 really confuses me. Are you saying his desire to be with you wasn't honest? Yes and no. I go into more detail in another reply, but there’s a lot of complicated feelings tied up in it. Why does the fact that he was there change because he was romantically interested in you? He was there because he wanted to support you - romantically or not, it's completely the same. Not always. I know several women who, when in my situation, where they rejected a friend, had the friend react angrily an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 06:20 PM |
| 2 | Women Assume The Worst Whenever A Man Leaves A Friendship After RejectionThe people you show up for are the people you care about. You care about the people you show up for. Hard agree. And, years past the situation, I can parse through it so much better. Friendship and romance were not mutually exclusive for him, not where I was concerned. They were for me. And that was the whole problem. But. There are instances of friends who develop feelings who then feel resentful when rejected because many of the things they did were motivated by their crush/feelings, not frien… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 06:03 PM |
| 9 | If you enter a Karate class first time wearing a Gi and a black belt, knowing what it means is disrespectful because you didn't earn it. why is it normal that women get married wearing a white dress?I mean…..different cultures have different wedding colours though? Like, everyone here has already brought up Queen Victoria starting the “white wedding dress” trend, but even without that, wedding dresses had different fashions and meanings across history. Looking at Italy, for example, where my family is from: In many parts of Italy, the traditional wedding colour was green, historically. To represent fertility. In the 1580s, burgundy was a popular colour for wedding dresses. In fact, the subj… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 03:11 PM |
| 11 | Women Assume The Worst Whenever A Man Leaves A Friendship After RejectionI agree with parts of this and disagree with others. I think the idea that women fill in the gaps with “whatever hurts the most” isn’t the full picture. Some women do that, sure, many others don’t. It’s an emotionally fraught situation. I’ve been in that situation, a friend confessing to me, and I’ve also been the friend with the unrequited crush. I’ve seen this repeated several times. From my perspective, turning down a friend: (Prefacing this with I understood why he stepped back from the frie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 10:47 AM |
| 3 | The best form of love is when you don't want anything from the other person.I disagree. Romantic love should not be unconditional. But other love can be. I love my fiancée unconditionally. If we broke up tomorrow, I would always love him. I would not always be IN love with him though, and that’s an important distinction. My romantic love for my fiancée is conditional on the mutual respect, trust, affection, and kindness we have for each other. Or maybe - a better way of putting it is this; Romantic love is a choice. I wake up each morning and I choose to romantically lo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 10:13 AM |
| 17 | Does paying women for sex automatically make me a “misogynist”?Ok this will mean nothing to you but I’ve spent years supporting sex workers while also feeling icky about the practice in general and trying to work out why I feel that way and you just explained it for me. It’s because while I support sex workers, I find the idea of a career where you can buy access to someone on so personal a level further reinforces this idea of women’s bodies/sexuality being a commodity, plus the lack of oversight in the industry makes it extremely difficult to regulate in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/23 09:48 AM |
| 25 | Men who leave women with cancer are no different from women who don't date men with health conditions in the first place…..except in one case, the person is someone you are not dating yet, so not your partner. And the other, the person is someone you are in a relationship with, so your partner. It isn’t the same. Partners have a bond (founded o, hopefully, mutual respect trust and love) someone you aren’t dating will not have that bond with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 05:27 PM |
| 9 | Being called a "fuckboy" is the biggest compliment you can get as a manNot to be overly pedantic but here’s the definition: fuckboy /ˈfʌkbɔɪ/ nounVULGAR SLANG•DEROGATORY a weak or contemptible man. a man who has many casual sexual partners. Men might hear a positive but it’s not supposed to be. (Source: Google search, Oxford Languages/Dictionary) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/23 05:01 PM |
| 4 | Men treating their partner/spouse like women treat theirs is considered abusiveI have mad ADHD and without my fiancé to remind me I would forget to brush my teeth. My brain is so broken I’ve called him before and then panicked thinking I lost my phone and used my phone light to look in my bag for the thing I am holding. So I support you. Sometimes help with the basics is necessary | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/23 04:32 AM |
| 60 | is it wrong to want a feminine woman ?It’s not wrong to want a feminine woman….but some of the things you listed aren’t exactly….inherently feminine traits? Like, plushies for example - it’s not inherently feminine to like them or not. You can be indifferent to them. Same with spiders. You can be feminine and not care about overall dresses. The things you listed aren’t inherently feminine when you look at the definition of femininity. It might be a version of femininity you like, but femininity differs from culture to culture and hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/23 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Telling neurodivergent/ugly men that they have no excuse is psychological abuseIt is not unkind of me to accidentally step on my fiancés foot while walking. If I don’t apologise and don’t care and believe that because my adhd means I have trouble concentrating therefore I don’t need to apologise then I become unkind. If you don’t see why you should apologise then that shows a lack of empathy. And yeah, autism does come with a helping of not understanding others feelings but if you genuinely don’t care how others feel? That’s not a hallmark of autism that’s a hallmark of be… | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/07/23 03:46 AM |
| 54 | I am NOT seeing "average" men having sex "all the time"I’m seeing people having sex all the time but to be fair I’m usually peering in their window and they don’t know I’m there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/23 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Telling neurodivergent/ugly men that they have no excuse is psychological abuseYou’re strawmanning a little my guy. Nowhere did I suggest you apologise to bullies, or the women (multiple? Or woman one.) with the harassment thing. You’re making my argument look intentionally ridiculous to strengthen your own point. I said if you hurt someone’s feelings you apologise even if it was out of ignorance because your actions/words were hurtful. “Apologise to bullies” is not a reasonable extrapolation of that statement. I would not apologise to the man that assaulted me because me … | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/07/23 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Telling neurodivergent/ugly men that they have no excuse is psychological abuseI disagree. I’ll tell you why. I have ADHD. My fiancé has autism. These things do make life harder. We cannot control the ways on which they make life harder. We can’t control how we feel about the fact that life is harder. BUT. We can control what we choose to do about it. My ADHD makes life very difficult - chronically late, shit working memory, poor impulse control. But that does not give mr permission to not try and develop those skills and it does not excuse me from accountability when I do… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/07/23 12:10 PM |
| 6 | Asking your partner not to dress provocately in a serious relationship is not toxic.I mean the point is you’ll never have to ask someone to change how they dress if you date someone whose style is not an issue for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/23 12:28 AM |
| 2 | There are really women on this sub ?Last I checked I was a woman. I’ll check again? Yep. Still a woman. | /r/AllPillDebate | 23/07/23 10:49 AM |
| 3 | Whats your opinion on open relationships?My fiancé and I have been open and not open. Right now we’re open to being open - not actively looking but hey if it happens that’s neat. It’s important to note that poly isn’t the same as open. We aren’t poly. Anyone we’ve seen or hooked up with is purely for sex and fun and not a relationship and we are always very honest with those people from the get go so no one gets their feelings hurt. It’s worked pretty well for us! We had some insecurity hurdles but at this point we’re both secure enoug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/23 06:32 AM |
| 5 | CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.Shit feminists are at fault for late stage capitalism and not the governments and corporations prioritising profit over everything else? Nah man. Correlation is not causation. I shaved my head in 2020. Covid started in 2020. Are those two things connected? No, my friend had cancer and I shaved my head with her. Just happened around the same time as covid. From the 60s onwards consumerism ramped up and from the 80s onwards there was a shift towards hyper-consumerism. Driven by a desire for profit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 01:02 PM |
| 10 | CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.You’re right we are in the wealthiest time in human history….so why are so many people living paycheck to paycheck and growing hungry and unable to afford shelter? Why is that? Gotta tell you while some people are just piss poor at money management some people are piss poor because generational poverty leads to big holes they can’t dig themselves out of. We are priced out of higher education and the better jobs that would lead to, healthier lifestyles and better health in general, and even housi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 12:10 PM |
| 11 | CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.You realise labour laws dictating the maximum work hours for many jobs have existed for a while, right? Also the purchasing power of your dollar was different - $100 today has the same purchasing power as $567 in 1975. Your money went further. And things were comparatively cheaper. Wages were comparatively higher. My mums minimum wage job in 1978 is the equivalent of double my hourly earnings at my minimum wage job today. Like…..? We shouldn’t have to work 2 jobs to live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 10:23 AM |
| 28 | CMV : Your parents could mostly buy houses easily, you can’t. Your parents found partners and had families, you can’t. It’s normal.Believe it or not there’s something pretty fucked about the fact that 1 average income could support a family and buy a house 50 years ago and now that is unimaginable and you’re casually suggesting getting a whole ass other job as the obvious solution. We shouldn’t HAVE to work 2 jobs to afford shelter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/23 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Being short is like being disabledI dunno my guy, while I empathise with you because yeah, being short sucks for men when it comes to dating…..it’s not comparable. Many disability activists have discussed this with far more knowledge and experience and nuance and eloquence than I ever could, but, to keep it brief, disabilities class someone as almost invisible in society. It’s harder to make friends, get jobs, keep housing, get care. Society ignores you at best or ridicules you and despised you at worst. You’re treated like a bu… | /r/AllPillDebate | 16/07/23 07:13 AM |
| -1 | The easy fix/sGotta tell ya buddy, just giggled at this and showed it to my buddy whose in teaching and she also thinks this behaviour is unattractive. Not sure what women you want to appeal to but putting down others based on jobs isn’t a great start… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/23 04:46 AM |
| 2 | Guys should filter out women who don't show any interest, romantically or sexuallyI dunno cosmo told me to stick a donut on my bfs penis and nibble it off slowly. I wouldn’t act like their advice is solid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/23 12:34 AM |
| 1 | When bluepillers say "You're interpreting those studies wrong" without explaining why it's nothing but straight up gaslightingAs a silly person doing predominately silly work I’ll make sure to add a disclaimer to any meta analysis I quote as I continue my weird hyperfixation with debating people on reddit then. Thanks for the breakdown! I only dabbled in social studies at uni so I get all tripped up sometimes when it comes to what study is appropriate and the various drawbacks. | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/07/23 02:15 AM |
| 1 | When bluepillers say "You're interpreting those studies wrong" without explaining why it's nothing but straight up gaslightingGenuine questions: What’s your view on meta-analyses for supporting evidence when it comes to social sciences? | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/07/23 01:24 AM |
| -1 | Do you prefer slim or curvy?I think what they mean is it’s not achievable for the average person. A lot of people, to get that figure, need to do a LOT of exercise and have an extremely restrictive diet. It’s not something that can be achieved just by going to the gym 3x a week and eating well. Nutritionists with meal plans, person trainers….that stuff is expensive and not everyone has the time when juggling a full time job or study as well. The women who look like this either have a LOT of free time to devote to being bea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/23 08:27 AM |
| 8 | Are women who get in relationships with men who watch porn or occasionally like insta photos of hot women abusively controlling?To answer your question I think we need to dive into the Jonah Hill thing some more. And the Jonah hill thing is tricky. The charitable interpretation is he “changed his mind” and the uncharitable is “he is controlling”. I think it’s important to look at both ends to understand the negative reaction to his behaviour. Firstly no matter which way you swing on his behaviour, he is misusing the word “boundaries”. A boundary is a limit on what behaviour you’ll accept from other people. In this case, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/23 10:12 AM |
| 5 | In the end, all men want is to feel needed. How do we help men cultivate a new purpose?I hard agree with you here! No shade to OP. My fiancé often feels quite useless when I’m sad about something and he can’t help. Some things he just can’t fix for me, most things I don’t want him to fix(I’ll be honest and say sometimes I do want his help but usually I’m pretty independent with problem solving) and sometimes a problem can’t be fixed. And if I’m telling him how I feel and he can’t do something about it he struggles with how to act. I constantly have to reinforce that I don’t need h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 09:59 PM |
| 0 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I disagree with your representation of feminism. While I accept there are some feminists who do call for what you describe I haven’t seen a large push inside the movement for male slavery or submissiveness. Unless you think there is a subtext to their messaging in which case I’d be interested to here your thoughts | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:09 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?That’s why I think we should push back against the strictness of it! If we stopped saying there was only a few ways to be a man, we’d sort of give people the opportunity to change and grow. People have considered different things attractive across the world and throughout history thanks to the diversity of cultures. While some things are consistent, a lot of other things are changeable. And if we stopped mocking or disrespecting those who were different we’d make it more acceptable and normalise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Fun fact - I edited to clarify that mental health being perceived as weakness is the issue. Enforced masculinity can be a contributing factor. Same way as if I were to go bye bye you could find any number of contributing factors - body dysmorphia from societal pressure around my body for example. I am not depressed and would not kill myself but that’s just an example. Also there’s actually significant evidence that women were hunters too in the past, not uncommonly either! Skeletons presumed to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 02:04 PM |
| 2 | Women will never understand a man's disgust about promiscuityI think where the disgust comes from is important though. Cant speak for every woman because we aren’t a monolith, but for me, if a guy sleeps around and I hear bad stuff about how he treats the girls he sleeps with, if he regularly brags about it, especially if he’s talking shit about those girls following….. That’s disgusting. I’ve been extremely disappointed by men who I’ve heard crap stuff about following their sexual conquests. I’ve seen names on bathroom stalls with things like “HAS CHLAMY… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/23 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Toward A Definition of Blue Pill.I’d argue that RP is an ideology by multiple definitions. Ideology has several sort of malleable definitions, but a guy called David W. Minar identified six different ways the word ideology has been used/what it meant. 1: ideology as a collection of certain ideas with certain kinds of content, usually normative; 2: ideology as the form or internal logical structure that ideas have within a set; By the role ideas play in human-social interaction; 4:By the role ideas play in the structure of an or… | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/07/23 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Toward A Definition of Blue Pill.I am confused by this idea. Mostly because blue pill doesn’t have a strict ideology, it just disagrees with the premise of red pill. Blue pill COULD mean everything you said, or it could mean “hey we don’t think you can generalise all women because that’s reductive and lacks nuance” without the weirdo subservience to women aspect you described. It could even mean something entirely different because blue pill isn’t an ideology like RP, it’s just not agreeing with RP. And that encompasses a lot. … | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/07/23 02:18 PM |
| 4 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I’d prefer not to be condescended to when I’ve made a fair effort to be pretty reasonable throughout this thread. I am aware that many women prefer traditional masculinity. As my original comment said - I was sharing my experience to show there are people who don’t care so much. But Thankyou for your contribution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I think I understand this - if trad masculinity comes naturally cool, if it doesn’t but other things do cool, but don’t act either way just because an ideology says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 10:06 PM |
| 0 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I’m not sure what this is supposed to mean, if you’re trying to say that men who aren’t traditionally masculine can’t be attractive, I would have to disagree because I see direct proof of it. While I understand your skepticism towards the idea due to your own lived experience, due to mine I have a different perspective. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I’m…..not saying it does? Men and women both have to dismantle it…..? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:54 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Women aren’t something you “get” so much. Sex, love, relationships…they happen. Sure you can improve upon certain things to improve your chances, but you can’t “get” a woman any more than I can “get” 1mill. It’ll happen or it won’t and factors beyond your control will affect your chances. Factors within your control will as well. You should want to be the best version of yourself for yourself. You’re stuck on this planet like the rest of us - why not try to be happy? Centring validation on exter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:52 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?The avatar pic is an entirely different colour but I’ll be honest and say I only worked it out maybe 2 replies in hahaha. Look I agree it can get toxic in this sub. I’m definitely guilty of snark but I try and dole it out to those who are giving it first. But I think the existence of this sub is indicative of people who are frustrated and want to express their views and when people are willing to be reasonable about it, this sub works very well. But it’s hard to not get defensive when someone is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I see your point, and I do partially agree with the modern relationships take. I will say from my perspective as a woman, I and my friends (female friends in this case) have been in situations where despite bringing home a paycheck that either matched or wasn’t tooooo much lower than our partners, the burden of housework still fell almost entirely on us. Not just the housework but the management of the house as well. I’ve told this story before - I was at work and my partner was working from hom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?You misunderstand me I think! I’m saying we shouldn’t keep traditional gender roles as the primary expectation in dating. If individuals prefer to keep to them that’s fine, but it shouldn’t be a default expectation that everyone will and we shouldn’t shame people for operating outside the traditional gender norm. Gender norms being default = not great in my eyes. For multiple reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:05 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Fair enough. Same here my guy - no clue about you just sharing my views. This has been an extremely civil discussion and I’ve appreciated it a lot! Its uh….tricky sometimes to find on reddit and especially this sub | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I think this is where we differ - I think some of gender roles are influenced by biology, certainly. This was evolutionary advantageous. Man defaulted to protector because bigger/stronger. Woman to nurturer because breastfeeding isn’t a hands free activity. However I think we’re moving beyond the point where we need to rely on those for our best chance of survival. And I think we wouldn’t still need them at all if the system we created when we needed those roles for survival wasn’t still so prev… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Thankyou for answering! You seem to have a pretty balanced and healthy perspective on your identity and how it benefits you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:43 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I think these are some really valid points. Taxing corporations and the wealthy more equitably would go a long way to creating funds for more male-centric crisis centres. My dad (great guy) worked in community outreach and it was always hard when he had a homeless male abuse victim because my city is small so the (very few, only a couple) abuse crisis centres are more focussed on women….and many of those women, fresh from traumatic situations, would be uncomfortable with a man around. But where … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:41 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Love this energy! It’s been really great to see lines blur and people become more comfortable expressing themselves. We have a way to go but it’s a great start! Also love how men these days are more comfortable building a positive hype culture openly. 10 years ago, in high school, I never saw any of my guy friends openly express joy and support the way men do now, and it’s a shift I’ve really loved. It did happen, sure, but far more rarely and far more restrained than it is today. Men offering e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:29 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Personal question, but I admire your candidness here so I’m gonna ask - How do you feel like the expectations affect you? Do you take pride/joy in your balance or is trying to live up to it stressful? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:17 PM |
| 0 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I think we might have to agree to disagree here. I don’t want this to devolve into a “no actually” or “I’m all right, you’re all wrong” situation because I don’t think that does anything but makes both of us more stubbornly entrenched in our views and less willing to exchange ideas or see a seperate perspective. This isn’t a dig! You have your opinion, I have mine. I can just see this becoming an unproductive comment thread. So I might leave it here so we can end things on a neutral note. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:11 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I think the point is we should divorce the idea of traditional gender roles from dating, and they do still play a part, definitely. I think they also play a part in attraction. Looking at women historically, a woman who was outspoken was not considered as attractive as a woman who was more subservient. There was always a niche appreciation but the societal expectations for women decided the societal ideal for women’s attractiveness. I’d argue this also extended to men in different ways. People a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 05:03 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Would you mind elaborating? I’d appreciate understanding when you’re coming from a bit more. I do disagree so far but I’d like the opportunity for us both to present our views. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:43 PM |
| 4 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I understand your perspective but there is a demand for “straight twinks” as you put it. Its not as large as the demand for more traditionally masculine men but it is there! I looked up “romance novels with skinny guys” and people do actually want that stuff, lol. Found posts in the romance novel subreddit where people were asking for skinny, or even chubby or short guys. Or just alternative body types to muscly. So I do think there is a market, per se, it’s just not a dominant market. I think s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:43 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I love musicals and I love this. Life weights and lift each others spirits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:29 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Ah apologies for misunderstanding then! Yeah I understand better now. Thanks for elaborating I think we are roughly…probably not the same page (still so much more nuance to this debate obviously and it’s near impossible we’d align on every issue ever) but the same chapter in the same book. Thanks for explaining! I definitely understand and agree with your points here. I think an issue I’ve found is a lot of content around masculinity and it’s negative effects on men comes from either a female pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:28 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Oh definitely it would take a long time. It wouldn’t be an easy or smooth journey. But it wouldn’t be easy or smooth or quick for me to get fit enough to run a marathon….but every day I don’t get off the couch means that goal is one day father away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:20 PM |
| 5 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Not with that attitude! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:18 PM |
| 6 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Its much easier to create an enemy when selling an ideology. Making the enemy a nebulous concept like a system doesn’t go as far as giving people a concrete thing to dislike. I will agree and say there has been more of a focus for how men should accomodate women becoming independent while women still benefit from the societal norms of them being dependent on men. However while womens independent and autonomy is more respected, I’d argue women are still benefitting from while also being harmed by… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 04:18 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?My only thing is, so much of the consequences I listed that you say are the traits of a low value man….I mean, without having to conform to that framework, there wouldn’t be the idea that they are inherently low value because of their lack of traditional masculinity. At least from where I’m standing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:59 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Easy! I think while we aren’t aligned on what masculinity is or isn’t or can or can’t be (and as a woman i totally understand that I know less about masculinity then say, a man) we agree on the rest - let people live and don’t be dicks to them for not measuring up to the yardstick of traditional gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?But what if men don’t want to subscribe to that form of masculinity? Shouldn’t we support people living life on their terms? Some people are not going to be able to fulfil all the requirements of traditional masculinity. Instead of leaving them depressed or hopeless for being unable to reach that, shouldn’t we encourage them to live life the way they want? ETA: if they want to do traditional masculinity, sure, but if they don’t want to, just let them be and don’t shame or disrespect them is my t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?This was an oopsie. Brain moved faster than my hands I meant to say “you guys are the ones feeling it” but was still thinking about rewording my line about women “can and do” When the meds wear off, the words go ahhhh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Alright | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Would you mind explaining a bit more? I’ll be honest and say I disagree so far but I’d appreciate being able to respectfully listen to your views and offer my own in return | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:34 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I appreciate your take! Yeah I think there is still a culturally engrained preference. I think preferences are fine provided no one is being an asshole about theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:33 PM |
| 14 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I said this in another comment but I think it’s worth repeating - I do think a side effect of feminism that no one really foresaw is, that, while we allowed women to function more like men traditionally did….we haven’t allowed men to function more like women. And that’s pretty unfair to me. I will say my circles (alternative types) do appreciate and are attracted to alternative displays of masculinity. I don’t think any of my friends have dated traditionally masculine men since high school. But … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:31 PM |
| 9 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I’m interested in this take. I don’t disagree entirely, I do think you have some valid points, I just disagree with other parts. I do think that despite women gaining more equal footing in terms of “we can do what men can” the same courtesy has not been extended to men. I do think traditional gender roles are at fault here. We argued we could be just as assertive/ambitious/strong as men without really considering the view that not all men WANT to be those things and feel a lot of pressure trying… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?We agree! (I think) Tying these traits to gender causes problems imo. It limits the ability to express yourself and puts a lot of undue stress on people. Compassion and softness are not exclusively female, same as how assertiveness and ambition are not exclusively male. People can be whatever and I have no issue unless they’re hurting other people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 03:10 PM |
| 7 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?I think this is a nuanced take. I didn’t mean to imply that only men shame men for not being traditionally masculine. I understand women as well do some of the shaming and don’t agree with that either. I’m always curious because on this sub I see a lot of people talking about very traditional displays of masculinity and linking that to desirability and I wonder if we worked on dismantling the need for that, if people would be happier. ETA: my dad wasn’t stay at home but was very hands on compare… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 02:56 PM |
| 6 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Im definitely getting the sexist jokes vibes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 02:54 PM |
| 5 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Oh I misinterpreted your comment, apologies. I agree I think. And I think disagreement is fine. I call myself feminine and I am even when I do what traditional femininity dictates as bad. If someone said I wasn’t feminine because if my lack of interest in children for example (feminine gender roles being so closely tied to children, birthing and raising them) I’d disagree but move on. If someone shamed me for not wanting children because women are expected to thanks to traditional gender roles, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 02:53 PM |
| 3 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?So you agree with traditional masculinity or….? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 02:36 PM |
| 2 | Do you support alternate expressions of masculinity? Why or why not?Fair enough! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Does it make woman want a man more knowing other women want that man?It depends on the person. Some people (of either gender) have a huge case of main character syndrome and low self esteem and probably a health dose of self obsession all at once. So “winning over” someone who shouldn’t be interested in them/wouldn’t be/wasn’t makes them feel desirable. The idea that someone would risk their relationship for them makes them feel like they’re not boring/ugly/dumb/insert negative thought here. Some people have commitment issues and want what they can’t have. Some p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 08:45 AM |
| 7 | Ladies, have you ever turned down a guy because you wanted him to try harder to get you, and if yes how does no mean no?When I was 14 and at an all-girls school and all my knowledge of dating and relationships were based off of movies? Yeah. Once or twice. By the time I turned 18 I realised what happened when there is a societal expectation that “no” means “yes”. Caught the wrong end of that and decided that games were dumb and dangerous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/23 07:06 AM |
| 2 | how do ''dark triad'' theorists explain the ''golden retriever'' phenotype being so popular in spaces where young women gather?Different women like different things? It could be that simple. Just as there are many types of men with different personalities and preferences, women ALSO come in different types with different personalities and preferences. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/07/23 10:16 AM |
| – | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?Maybe you can distinguish between fantasy and reality, but MANY people cannot. Children as young as 8 in the UK have been harassed in school uniform. 1/3 girls in a survey in the UK were harassed in their uniforms (almost all schoolchildren wear uniforms in the UK). Anecdotally, I definitely received more street harassment in my school uniform than any other outfit. I know that school uniforms aren’t inherently sexual, you know that as well. Reasonable people know this. But not everyone is reaso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/23 01:01 AM |
| 1 | New Rules by Dua Lipa…..here is the pre chorus and the chorus ……… My love He makes me feel like nobody else, nobody else But my love He doesn't love me, so I tell myself, I tell myself One: Don't pick up the phone You know he's only callin' 'cause he's drunk and alone Two: Don't let him in, you'll have to kick him out again Three: Don't be his friend You know you're gonna wake up in his bed in the mornin' And if you're under him, you ain't gettin' over him …… This is what Dua Lipa said about the song: “It’s the brea… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/07/23 10:14 PM |
| 3 | Not cheating on your wife is a beta moveOh no thanks I didn’t want the screen caps. I’ve gotten quite fond of your brand of insanity. True or not, I always have a good time when I run across you. I think knowing one way or the other ruins the magic for me. Sure you could be lying but maybe you’re not and the joy is the journey I’m taken on when I see you here. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/07/23 02:09 PM |
| 2 | Not cheating on your wife is a beta moveOh virginity certificate guy! Who definitely married a virgin who had no experience at anything but also apparently she offered to just be your FWB and then you fell into a relationship. I missed you dude. You always have such crazy stories. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/07/23 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Men who don’t want to date overweight women know it has nothing to do with healthDepends. When you say how important “this” is to them….what is this? It’s up to an individual to decide what standards they have for a partner, sure, and how important it is to them. It’s up to an individual to decide how important their own weight is to them. It is not always up to an individual to decide other factors. I did not get to decide how important my genetics were when it came to weight retention. I did not get to decide how my meds would influence my metabolism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/23 01:23 AM |
| 2 | Men who don’t want to date overweight women know it has nothing to do with healthGenetics influence things like this differently. At my heaviest I was also at my fittest. I worked out doing high intensity pole fitness classes for 9 hours a week. I ate really well. I rarely drank. I developed muscle but I never developed definition. Your story and how you managed is not a copy and paste that applies to every person ever. People’s bodies are different and they have different struggles and different abilities and different predispositions. To believe that just because YOU did s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 11:25 PM |
| 3 | Coming from a broken or dysfunctional home is the biggest red flag there is.Me looking at my store bought dopamine and serotonin bottle sitting quietly in my bag; “It’s fine guys, maybe my body doesn’t make you but I CHOSE to have you and that means just as much.” ETA: aforementioned store bought shit is wearing off. My fiancé makes cracks that I left the kids at home when I don’t take my meds. I’ve decided they are adopted. I’m not making sense | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 01:47 PM |
| 1 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?It’s baffling to me that I can say clearly multiple times in multiple comments that I don’t think every many is a rapist, that the precautions I listed are reasonable, and yet…..people Keep insisting I live in fear, I am paranoid, I am hateful, I am jaded…. I think at this point, no disrespect, I am not going to continue participating in this thread because no matter how clear I make myself, people are determined to project meaning I do not have and did not even suggest onto what I say. If I loo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 01:41 PM |
| 3 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?My guy…..the issue with school uniforms is because they are a uniform minors wear. Military uniforms, firefighter uniforms…adults wear them? The issue isn’t the clothes. It’s that there’s Porn categories like “catholic schoolgirl”. Adults are not schoolchildren. School uniforms are worn by schoolchildren. It’s just icky to me to sexualise something worn pretty exclusively By kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 01:00 PM |
| 1 | How to be a real man.Hahaha yeah some women might like it but many think it’s fucking dumb. Never once have I seen a fight and thought anything other than “Eugh idiots”. ETA: I’m talking not fights like you were describing but random punch ups. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/07/23 10:53 AM |
| 1 | How to be a real man.I, am woman, am an excellent man then. Huzzah. | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/07/23 10:47 AM |
| 2 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?You leapt immediately to me “deliberately leaping”. It wasn’t deliberate. I read an article, wasn’t given an “as low as” version, and cbs trying to maths the low end, and word for word regurgitated a website. Lazy leaping is far more accurate hence my attitude. I felt it was wrong for you to attribute intent where there was none. I felt it was wrong for you to attribute hate and paranoia to me just clarifying a statistic you asked for a source on. Dismissive? Sure. I’ll cop that. I dismiss you a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 07:11 AM |
| 2 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?I mean I don’t think we should sexualise stuff that is associated with underage teenagers, no. Cheerleading outfits is murky only Because adult cheerleaders exist, but school uniforms are worn by schoolchildren, not school adults. So no I don’t think we should sexualise it. Why is it sexy? What is inherently sexy about a “naughty schoolgirl?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/23 06:24 AM |
| 1 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?Interesting. If you believe that then there’s no point debating with you as your theory can be liberally applied to any source or information I dig up. If you consider all sources a poisoned well….well, I’ll leave it here. Have a nice day | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 09:10 PM |
| 2 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?This is true. It’s usually acquaintances, partners, family, friends, coworkers….. But most peoples houses aren’t robbed and yet we lock our doors anyway when we leave. It is fine to be cautious but, unless someone is being rude to you, it’s not their problem to manage your feelings when it comes to how they protect themselves, especially if that protection is manifesting as basically and simply as “well I’m going to be cautious around strangers”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 09:06 PM |
| 2 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?I didn’t take the highest end of anything I just read the stats and they said 4%-16% so as high as 1 in 7 and I repeated that info here….? Calm down my guy. I’m not even from the US. I’m not even the original commenter. I just said where their stat was likely from and gave info that contextualised the US as lower. I’m not hateful because of numbers, I’m wary because I’m part of a statistic as part of the 23% of women who have been sexually assaulted. Do I think all men are rapists? Nope. But the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 04:45 PM |
| 6 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?Sir - I don’t know how to break this to you but….sexualising high school cheerleader uniforms is still bad. And schoolgirl porn where they’re in uniforms is like a whole thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 04:17 PM |
| 1 | What’s the reason some women who dress sexy get mad when guys check them out ?The UN released a study where worldwide it was 1 in 4 apparently. In the US it ranges from 4-16% depending on the study, so as high as 1 in 7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 04:14 PM |
| 2 | Beta bucks doesn't exist, women aren't settling and choosing single life with casual datingWas her cooking mentioned in the article or are you making assumptions and deciding those assumptions tell you a lot about her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 03:52 PM |
| 0 | Beta bucks doesn't exist, women aren't settling and choosing single life with casual dating…..my fiancé is the best of men and has the name Adam. I think he’s fine but I haven’t let him out in a few days. Probably should change his water too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/23 03:50 PM |
| 1 | DEEP BREAKDOWN: Consequences of Long Term lack of Sexual Access for MenI was gonna say - yeah I have ADHD and it’s usually, like….a condition that you have from a young age. I think you can develop it as an adult but that is far less common especially from an official diagnosis/medical standpoint. My younger brother showed signs of ADHD his whole life and I don’t think he was concerned with his lack of sex as a 3 year old. Usually he was more concerned with crayons, and how they’d taste if he dipped them in his milo. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/07/23 12:02 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex benefits womenMe: women are different! Some women are how you describe, others are not! A random: lol women gaslight and lie to each other. I, a man, knows women better than a woman would Me: that is dumb! You are not all knowing and generalising us ignores all the women you prove this thesis wrong! The random: lol don’t be so serious it’s fine to generalise even though it means I am making patently false statement about all women and portraying them as not knowing their own minds better than I, a clever man,… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex benefits womenSo….women lie to each other and to men….but somehow only men know the REAL truth You realise that is patently ridiculous - to think we not only all act and behave in the same way but that we don’t know it but somehow you, men, all do? Does that sound at all believable? I did not deny that some women do offer casual sex to get a relationship, I said not ALL do. I said many women enjoy casual sex as just a casual experience. It is the height of arrogance to assume you know the minds of ALL women b… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex benefits womenMy guy I am a woman who knows women. Many women. Not all women think sex = possible in for a relationship. Women can, and do, enjoy one of sexual encounters OR a string of no-strings-attached sex with someone without wanting a relationship. Your hypothesis relies on all women thinking and feeling the same about casual sex. Which is unrealistic and also untrue. Also I thought your wife was a virgin when you met her and your family assured you of this? Unless you’re not the virginity certificate g… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 08:59 AM |
| 3 | Casual sex benefits womenCasual sex is not a chance to share in his lifestyle though? Many women see casual sex as just that - casual. Not leading to anything greater. In which case both parties (ideally) are getting what they signed up for - good sex with a person they find attractive enough to sleep with. If someone sees casual sex as an opportunity to share a lifestyle or lead to a relationship they do not see it as casual. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 08:19 AM |
| 2 | Do you find it ironic that all bluepill content creators are ugly af?Just jumping on to say that vibes are super important when it comes to attraction and vibes aren’t always connected to looks. Noah Samsen has a very non-threatening energy that I really like. The thing that gets me when people discuss RP content creators being attractive is the ones they pick have a very off putting energy, to me at least. I’m not just saying that because they are RP. There are some more lefty commentators with off putting energy for example. I really dislike the h3h3 energy and… | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/07/23 03:49 AM |
| 1 | Risk of poverty is higher for women after divorce and separation.That is a very specific situation my guy. Not even the situation I was talking about? One of my earliest lines was “let’s say the man and the woman AGREE”. Yeah there are women who take advantage of it because people, regardless of gender, can be assholes. Same as there are men who take advantage of their wives. But yeah when the couple both agreed to the terms of a SAHW/M and then they divorce? Marital assets being split help prevent total poverty as the woman finds a job to support herself. Ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 11:16 PM |
| 1 | The new phenomenon of “ROCD” appears to be exactly what men have been describing when it comes to the wishy washy nature of women packaged neatly into a convenient mental illness.I’d love to see the degree you have that gives you the confidence to make such a strong claim. Please show me the research that definitively proves that OCD and anxiety are just based in neuroses and not actual disorders that cripple peoples ability to live full and healthy lives. And you know what? I think they already have courage. After all, it does take courage to face your disorders and try and live with them, but in many cases the courage doesn’t make them magically go away, it doesn’t mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 01:46 PM |
| 14 | Most relationships are transactional and aren't based on real love.Love is a weird word because it’s a noun and a verb. What I mean by that is love isn’t just something you feel it’s something you do. You don’t just “love” someone and that’s it. You actively “love” them which involves time and effort and work. It’s a doing word. I love my partner by being kind to him and spending time with him, by comforting him when he’s sad and celebrating with him when he’s happy. I love him by bringing him coffee when I have an earlier start than him, by watching his shows … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 12:24 PM |
| 2 | Being a passport bro isnt going to fix you're problemsAh yes, silly me for using the average wages and average expenses including rent, food, utilities and transport, to show how high the COL is. Clearly I should’ve used some other widely acceptable metric to work out what the costs of the average family in America might be. /s So what you’re suggesting as homesteading. Obviously that changes everything then! We’re only looking at 1300 square foot for the average family of 2 kids and 2 adults but you’re tripling the kids from 2 to 6 (at least) so w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 12:06 PM |
| 2 | Being a passport bro isnt going to fix you're problems…..ok that’s an interesting take. Ignoring the fact that these women might make an income from TikTok which would contribute to the household income, let’s play ball. Can it be done? Sure. Definitely. Not everyone wants it. And not everyone can do it. Because it’s really damn hard to do. You brought up location, for example: ignoring the fact that many people can’t just move to a cheaper area or city or state because of work or school or the cost of moving, the COL differs from place to place. H… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 09:29 AM |
| 2 | Being a passport bro isnt going to fix you're problemsAhhh I remember you! Guy who talked about virginity certificates and how your wife is totally fine with you cheating! It is not that common for women to be solely home makers anymore in the west. More and more, due to rising cost of living, people have jobs even the women! Cant really live out the tradwife fantasy with no money after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 08:20 AM |
| 6 | Being a passport bro isnt going to fix you're problemsI’m not sure clearly stating intentions on your bio is manipulative tho? Like, scamming people for free meals - yeah sure that’s scummy. The 70% initiating divorces isn’t indicative of manipulation though? What manipulation? Do you have the stats on why they divorced? I’m so confused how, without a bare breakdown of the reasons, you can just use that whole statistic as proof. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 08:18 AM |
| 7 | Risk of poverty is higher for women after divorce and separation.It’s honestly quite sad. SAHM mums do get to “retire early” in the sense that their work decreases a lot when the kids are out of the house, but like…..they have limited to no financial independence, and work overtime for years. My dad was remarkably involved in childcare - the only reason the cleaning and cooking hours are so low in my round up is because he would get home from work and pitch in his fair share. So my mum was lucky in that respect. But my mum was also a staunch feminist who I kn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 07:09 AM |
| 3 | Alot of guys don’t actually find women attractive. They like cosmetics.I think in media there should be more “average” or “ordinary” looking characters of all genders. I know that as a species we like aesthetically pleasing things, but I think when all the hero’s of the stories are exceptionally attractive it sort of makes anyone who is just plain feel like a side character, and anyone below plan feel like nothing. I quite enjoyed HZD, and while it wasn’t perfect, it had robot dinosaurs and the main character wasn’t exceptionally beautiful. And that was so new to m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 06:49 AM |
| 2 | The new phenomenon of “ROCD” appears to be exactly what men have been describing when it comes to the wishy washy nature of women packaged neatly into a convenient mental illness.It’s OCD. It’s a subtype of OCD. Hence the OCD after the R. OCD come in many forms. For some people it is how it’s portrayed in the media - obsession with cleanliness for example. But it also appears as an obsession with patterns and symmetry, which can appear as compulsively arranging all your shirts by colour until it is “just right”, or repeating phrases and words a certain number of times. Sometimes it’s linked with an idea it might keep you or others safe - My sister displays OCD symptoms. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 04:44 AM |
| 5 | Alot of guys don’t actually find women attractive. They like cosmetics.I guess the question is why is her not being conventionally attractive such a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 04:06 AM |
| 10 | Risk of poverty is higher for women after divorce and separation.Let’s say the man and the woman agree that she will be a SAHW and SAHM when they marry. She gives up her career and earning in favour of supporting the husband with his. She takes 3, 5, 10 years out of the workforce doing home and childcare duties. Then they divorce. Now the wife is fucked because for the last X years she’s been out of the workforce and had a large gap in her resume. Her skills and knowledge are outdated and out of practice. She will likely struggle to find work and likely strug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/23 02:08 AM |
| 3 | I have a love-hate relationship with r/NotHowGirlsWork.This is a bit of a false equivalency here. The ideas are similar on the surface but one is rooted in false stereotypes and the other is rooted in personal safety. Women don’t walk alone at night because it’s dangerous. Why is it dangerous? Well they might get attacked. Statistically, by a man. If women started saying actively saying things like “well all men are dangerous and are possible rapists” …. That’s misandry. A woman going “well its not safe to walk alone at night so I try not to” That’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 03:29 PM |
| 1 | Wear grey sweat Pants and pop a half of viagra theory.…is this with a partner? Or someone you are having sex with? In the comfort of your home? If not probably don’t try this. | /r/AllPillDebate | 28/06/23 09:20 AM |
| 7 | I have a love-hate relationship with r/NotHowGirlsWork.do you lock your door when you leave the house? Do you have a passcode on your phone? Do you cancel your bank card if you lose it? If the answer to any of the above is “yeah” the. You know why some women don’t feel safe at night. It’s risk minimisation. Maybe nothing will happen but they don’t want to take that risk. And that’s fine. For example, in my city, we had a woman attacked at a well lit bus stop at 3 in the morning on a weekday. Three cars drove by before one thought to call the police.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/23 06:03 AM |
| 2 | What do you love about your partner?Ahhhh I love excuses to gush about my fiancé! He’s kind. He’s just so kind. In such a sincere, understated way. He doesn’t do petty, he doesn’t do grudges. He’s kind to his friends, family, strangers. I admire his capacity for kindness. He’s so fucking funny. Such good banter. We have each other in stitches. He’s stubborn in a good way. I mean like, he stands up for his ideals. He’s not preachy about it, but like - if he sees gross behaviour, he’ll make it clear he doesn’t like it. He doesn’t ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 03:56 PM |
| 6 | Has an average guy ever got you addicted to bring you down a peg or two so you wanna fuck less high status guys, like him ?100% this is true. If you’re not engaging consistently in every subreddit you join you’re passive. Men and women, all waiting for an alpha to take control, we just can’t help it. /s | /r/AllPillDebate | 27/06/23 02:43 PM |
| 7 | Men with few options usually screw up the few options they hadMy guy, respectfully, you have a very limited and biased understanding of autism. It’s true that people with autism can be annoying….guess what? Neurotypical people are also considered annoying! Autism does not mean “this person is annoying” it’s a label that encompasses a whole spectrum of behaviours in varying intensities and modes of presentations. And these behaviours aren’t exclusive to autism either. I mean, people with OCD, ADHD, even anxiety, can display behaviours that exist on the auti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 05:36 AM |
| 3 | If it's insulting that someone wants you after they've had their fun in their youth, would it be even more insulting if they still didn't want you?You realise that everyone has baggage, right? Many women don’t mind baggage provided their partner is able to handle it in a healthy way. If your baggage is so out of control that you engage in toxic behaviour - um yeah, people in general don’t tolerate that. You’re allowed to ask for help and you should get support in carrying it, but dumping all your baggage for a partner or friend to carry isn’t tolerated in general because it’s incredibly selfish. We help carry it, we don’t take it entirely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/23 01:09 AM |
| 1 | If men are inherently driven by the obtainment of sex, and the lack there/in search of effects their thoughts, feelings and behaviors about themselves/towards others. Would it be better for society if men held less power and influence in society?Hahaha what you think coups are based on compassion? I’m sorry that’s just such a foreign concept. I don’t think you understand what compassion is. I’m confused by your presence on this subreddit if you don’t think compassion is useful. Do you think instead frustrated men should just rage into a void and now receive understanding or help in return? Is just screaming about how unfair stuff is going to change anything? Do you think we got as far as we have without compassion? People without compas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 06:09 PM |
| 1 | If men are inherently driven by the obtainment of sex, and the lack there/in search of effects their thoughts, feelings and behaviors about themselves/towards others. Would it be better for society if men held less power and influence in society?If a leader doesn’t have compassion for the people they are leading, what kind of leader are they? Compassion means to suffer with someone. A political leader should feel connected to the struggles of the people they’re leading. Otherwise how would you be sure they were acting in the best interests of those people? Compassion is also the feeling of deep sympathy along with the desire to alleviate that suffering - is that not a good quality in a leader? A desire to act to change things they are a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 05:43 PM |
| 2 | If it's insulting that someone wants you after they've had their fun in their youth, would it be even more insulting if they still didn't want you?Alright, but a much younger woman would have less experience AND different life stages to an older male partner. Like I said, if it’s once or twice, whatever. Genuine romantic connections happen. But, A pattern of behaviour and clear intent to pursue much younger women consistently and nest exclusively….that I think is an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 04:52 PM |
| 3 | Is it still offensive to ask a woman to disclose how she weighs?I mean yeah. Peoples bodies do unexpected things. My body didn’t show muscle tone and despite eating healthy and working out, still looked soft. I could crush watermelon with my thighs. My thighs also jiggled lots. Nothing wrong with my health or how I looked. Bodies do different weird things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 03:36 PM |
| 1 | Are some women maybe hypocritical when they tell guys to lower their standards but then criticize them for it when they do?I know some people where age gap isn’t an issue, but generally the younger person was in their mid-late twenties or older and had enough life under their belt to not get taken advantage of. I’m not gonna be that aghast at the 40 something man and his 30 something girlfriend. I AM gonna question the 33 yr old guy whose girlfriends have all been between 18-21, and who says women his age are too “picky”, and the younger ones don’t have “baggage”. In that context, picky and baggage more likely means… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 01:18 PM |
| 2 | Are some women maybe hypocritical when they tell guys to lower their standards but then criticize them for it when they do?Its not the only reason age gap relationships ever occur, but if someone is only going for significantly younger partners, you should always wonder why. When I was 17-18, I was fairly inexperienced with love, life, and honestly everything. I hadn’t even voted yet. I barely had finished school. I lived at home and worked in a cafe. My life was dominated by waiting for summer so I could get drunk in my friends pool. I’d never travelled, paid bills that weren’t phone bills. No one I knew well had d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 12:54 PM |
| 4 | Is it still offensive to ask a woman to disclose how she weighs?Hahaha hard agree. I was doing pole fitness for over a year for 9ish hours a week. You gotta be strong for that shit, I was doing sit ups from laybacks (holding pole with thighs, body angled down) and I still looked overweight. Some people don’t tone easily without starving themselves. And then you have people like my fiancé who only needs to do one push up during a solar eclipse and his arms are more defined that mine ever were. The man is allergic to exercise. Asking for measurements tells you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 12:34 PM |
| 4 | Work colleagues in their mid twenties talking to each other how getting Babys at this age would end their lives.I have the stats on a doc because I’ve had to use them a couple times now (I spend too much time on this hellsite) Stanford Medicine Children Health, the NCT (National Childbirth Trust) in the UK, also a couple Australian pamphlets on it my sister picked up when she was pregnant. There is definitely an increased risk and it does only go up. AND poor diet, obesity, they can contribute to pregnancy complications + childbirth complications. By far the biggest and most pressing risk that I could see… | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/06/23 10:52 AM |
| 2 | Work colleagues in their mid twenties talking to each other how getting Babys at this age would end their lives.Higher risk not necessarily high. Down syndrome: Age 25 - 0.08%…Pretty friggin good odds. Age 35 - 0.25%…Still pretty friggin good odds. Age 40 - 1%…STILL pretty friggin good odds. Age 42 - 1.67%…Still not bad to be honest. Age 49 - 8.3%…ok yeah this one is less fun Stillbirth: If you’re 35, the risk is 1/1000 At 40 its 2/1000 Miscarriage: Age 30 - 18% Age 35 - 22% Age 40 - 38% Pre-eclampsia, gestational diabetes, hypertension….all go up as you get older. All are also treatable. But the risks of… | /r/AllPillDebate | 26/06/23 08:05 AM |
| 2 | If it's insulting that someone wants you after they've had their fun in their youth, would it be even more insulting if they still didn't want you?I don’t know everyone brings baggage to a relationship. Like I have my crap, my fiancé has his, we help each other with the crap, but if the crap starts to take over our whole lives or if we treat each other badly because of our crap…..that’s when it’s unfair. A lot of people will have stuff that haunts them. I could argue that many RP guys have crap they bring into relationships that affects their partner. Imagine being just a normal woman and having to constantly deal with your boyfriend not t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/23 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Why are people still using the word “incel,” don’t they realize the internet is laughing at them? Also why do the people using it always look like this?Well I apologise for misunderstanding your point. I see so many “paternity fraud” things around I leapt to that which was an incorrect assumption. Norway does have a problem where only 3 out of 4 men are having kids….but the birth rate in many more developed countries is decreasing due to factors like cost of living, and yes, more women deciding they don’t want kids. Which is their choice, motherhood isn’t for everyone. But, importantly, we were discussing America (at least you brought it up wit… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/06/23 03:12 PM |
| -2 | Why are people still using the word “incel,” don’t they realize the internet is laughing at them? Also why do the people using it always look like this?Only stats I can find online say that 60% of men in the US are fathers, and that of the 74 million fathers aged 15 and over, all but around 2.3 mill are biological fathers. But those are adoptions or step fathers, you’re clearly discussing paternity fraud. Only stats I can find show a 2005 study suggesting that worldwide around 4% of men are unknowingly raising a child that isn’t theirs. That number doesn’t bring it down to less than half of men in the US having biological children. You’d have t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 25/06/23 10:56 AM |
| 0 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Cool, except attraction isn’t purely biological, is it? Nor is it entirely visual. It’s a complex drive made up from some biological, some genetic, some psychological, and some cultural factors shaken together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 06:32 AM |
| – | we should criticize deadbeat dads (to an extent) not single momsIf we want less criminals we need a stronger welfare state, better education, and better healthcare. Believe it or not, mocking single mothers does not actually give us any of the above or improve things. It just makes people feel good about themselves. You’re going to see a rise in single mothers now that abortion is so tricky to get in America. Maybe their BC failed, maybe they were assaulted, maybe they made a poor decision and fucked raw and now they’re pregnant with no option but to adopt t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/23 01:02 AM |
| 3 | Rejection is not completely consequence free.Thankyou for you kind words. I genuinely was not expecting that. You’re right - having a mental health problem or a disorder is not indicative of bad character. Bad character is using those things as an excuse to do terrible things. And often, even if people don’t have a full blown issue like I do, the strategies I use are really helpful and the stigma around mental health, therapy, and medication, can stop people from being able to seek that out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 03:19 AM |
| 2 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themStruggling to get a doctor to take me seriously, but it is on the list! Found a doctor who seems more willing to consider it at least. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/23 02:54 AM |
| 10 | Rejection is not completely consequence free.I’m in two minds about this, and I’ll explain why. So, I have ADHD and a fun possible symptom of ADHD is something called “rejection sensitive dysphoria” (RSD) as well as emotional regulation issues and I have both of those. Essentially, RSD means even the perception that I’ve been rejected or criticised, or even me not Living up to my own expectations, causes UNREASONABLY strong emotional reactions in me. A sunburn for others melts me to my bones. Even the idea that I MIGHT be rejected triggers… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:04 PM |
| 5 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themI…..that is a lot. Did you miss the part where I talked about how men and women are all socialised quite young to see each other as opponents? It’s not just women doing the socialising here. Every shotgun dad joke revolves around the idea that men are “sex hounds” and women’s sexuality must be kept protected. Which is why I said that we shouldn’t do that? Because it sets us up as opponents? At no point did I say it was wrong for men to want to hit on people, just that they gotta understand that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Men need to lose the psychological battleA couple things. You seem to fundamentally misunderstand my comment which sure is partly due to me not clarifying a few things but partly because it feels like, to me, that you’re taking this as an attack on men. 1: my intention was not to say “all men are bad”. The standards for what made a good partner were low and I used the men of my family to illustrate and chart the shifts. All of the men of my family were complex individuals who were good men for their time, and my dad is still a good man… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 05:43 PM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.I just don’t get attracted to people on basis of physical appeal. It’s not a good or a bad thing, it’s just a neutral trait. No I wouldn’t sleep with Chris Evans if the opportunity arose. I would sleep with John Oliver because my crushes on celebrities tend to be the ones who are goofy and politically engaged and clever. And John Oliver buying out medical debt just to forgive it? Flying to Russia to interview Edward Snowden? Creating a fake mega church to prove how they exploited tax loopholes? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 04:51 PM |
| 4 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themAh I wish BC helped me but my hormone fluctuations (already insane) means I have had some pretty….catastrophic experiences with BC in general. Suicidally bad depression being the most common, although a real highlight was bar, that made me completely unstable. Genuinely the mood swings were so bad I almost lost my partner. A few Made my periods worse. After trying quite a few I made the decision to stop because I was in constant mental and physical stress from spending 3-6 months on something to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 04:39 PM |
| 4 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themLook I agree that people are prone to hyperbole, especially on the internet. And I acknowledge it’s hard to know the “right” approach, even without factoring in things like anxiety and poor social skills. I think we should encourage women to also approach, and that we socialise women to wait and men to seek out and that’s not fair and puts a lot more pressure on men. However as someone who hates every time I am hit on because I find it awkward and sometimes fear inducing, I also understand and d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 04:32 PM |
| 4 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themOh man no. Even if an attractive guy, or a guy they find attractive hit on them, they are not guaranteed to be well received. That’s not how it works. I get period cramps so bad I throw up the first couple days. I still have to work because….bills and shit, so this means for 2 days out of every 30ish I am in a foul mood. And I guarantee you in the decade I’ve been employed and had to work while also bleeding and throwing up, I have not once enjoyed someone hitting on me. When I was at uni and ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 02:54 PM |
| 13 | In reality girls know and accept guys are gonna hit on themFun fact; women are all different and have different opinions. Some women enjoy being hit on, some don’t, some don’t mind depending on the context. Some mind no matter the context. However a consistent theme is if they aren’t in the mood to meet people they are not going to enjoy it. And before anyone says “well that’s not fair/that’s not consistent” I mean….yeah? People are not computer programs; you can’t type in a “in case of x always do y” script that performs perfectly. If someone is having… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 02:21 PM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.I wasn’t attracted to him until after I got to know him a little. It probably took me a solid three months from meeting him to find him attractive, and maybe another month after that to have an actual crush on him instead of just being attracted to him. YOU say the distinction is meaningless but just because you don’t experience attraction that way doesn’t mean my experience is invalid. I’ve never really had the moment of seeing a cute person and then after one conversation becoming attracted to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Confidence for men requires seeing oneself as better than other menI mean I didn’t ask specifically what type of lung cancer it was. The type of lung cancer was far less important to me than the fact that he was dying. But if you have a elderly patient who worked on construction sites back when asbestos was around, who is stupidly healthy (worked up until the year he died, great diet, very active) with a bronchial infection that isn’t disappearing after a month, six weeks, etc….why not order scans? It’s not getting better, why not alter the treatment even if yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:16 AM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Depends on the person. By person I mean it depends on who you ask not who you’re looking at. Some people place a higher priority on looks than others which is totally fine (provided they aren’t assholes about it and treat people they don’t find attractive as people not offences to the human race). Sidenote - I want to add that I don’t think it makes me a good person to be less looks-focussed when it comes to attraction. I don’t think it’s some pure and noble thing because I didn’t actively becom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 08:08 AM |
| 4 | Confidence for men requires seeing oneself as better than other menNo but how you phrase it in your title - confidence for men means seeing yourself as better than other men - is looking down. The doctor example - My Grandfather died of lung cancer. He wasn’t a smoker but he did work on construction sites back when asbestos was more commonly used. For two or so months before he was diagnosed, his family GP told him it was just a chest infection and didn’t pursue alternate avenues. Didn’t refer him for scans or tests. My Grandfather went to hospital for severe s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Confidence for men requires seeing oneself as better than other menYou’ve not understood my point. It is possible to have an objective assessment of your skills that doesn’t change your sense of self worth OR make others seem worse than you. Of course my fiancé is better than some people who didn’t get his job - I mean duh. People have different skills. But him being confident and knowing he’s good at his job doesn’t mean he looks down on the people he beat out for it. Your idea rests on comparison - to be confident you have to be better than others. But confid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 05:32 AM |
| 6 | Confidence for men requires seeing oneself as better than other men“I’m good at my job” “X person is better” “They are! But that doesn’t mean I am not still good at my job”. He is not rattled or perturbed by the idea that other people are better than him and it does not affect his confidence in his abilities. It’s something I’m blessed to learn from him. I used to think that the fact that my very attractive best friend got more attention meant I was hideous. No, I’m lovely in my own right. The fact that she is lovelier does not change that. It just means she is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Men need to lose the psychological battleNeither women nor men are a necessity to be frank. But women used to need men to survive and now they don’t, and many men seem to struggle because this shift towards women operating independently means they are still operating as if they are needed. I always think of the women in my family when this argument comes up. For three generations, each matriarch has said their spouse was a good husband and father. And each husband and father was exceptional if you consider the time periods they lived i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 03:49 AM |
| 5 | Confidence for men requires seeing oneself as better than other menI’d disagree. I mean, to get really pedantic about it, the definition of confidence is “ a feeling of self-assurance arising from an appreciation of one's own abilities or qualities.” What you’re describing is arrogance: “having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities.” The most confident, self-assured people I know are not arrogant. My fiancé is confident he is good at his job because he is. He is self assured in his skills and abilities. He knows that he is capab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/23 02:34 AM |
| 1 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.There is a large difference between not thinking someone is unattractive and being physically attracted to them. The first is neither the absence nor presence of any particular feeling about his looks. I didn’t think he was ugly. I wouldn’t have fucked him. The second is the feeling of finding him attractive and wanting to fuck him. Chris Evans is aesthetically pleasing but I wouldn’t fuck him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 11:40 PM |
| 0 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.No? I wasnt attracted to him. Noticing someone is aesthetically pleasing is NOT the same as wanting to fuck them because they are aesthetically pleasing. Chris Evans is handsome but I don’t feel anything towards him and wouldn’t fuck him because I don’t find him attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 11:36 PM |
| 11 | I'm incredibly skeptical that personality or other characteristics can "override" lack of physical attraction - please change my mind.Not necessarily! Not everyone experiences attraction the same way. My attraction to people is very dependent on their personality. It’s rare I find someone attractive instantly. I thought I was “broken” for a number of years because I would not get the same kind of crushes as my friends - I will notice if someone is attractive but for me to be attracted to them I have to talk to them, do a bit of banter, get to know them a little. My fiancé is someone I’ve known for years. When we met, I noticed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Women insist that their “taste” or standards are instinctual and without any outside influence, and that they can’t be changed when the opposite has been proven when it comes to physical attraction. Their inflated standards are quite clearly the direct result of their abundance of options.That too! In WW2 it wasn’t rare for women to rub shit on their legs to darken it to mimic nylons - my grandmother as a little girl in WW2 and some of the women in her town would use gravy, or even draw a line on the back of their calf to mimic the seam of a stocking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 02:17 PM |
| 3 | Women insist that their “taste” or standards are instinctual and without any outside influence, and that they can’t be changed when the opposite has been proven when it comes to physical attraction. Their inflated standards are quite clearly the direct result of their abundance of options.I trim but after an unfortunate incident with my clit and a razor I refuse to shave. And I only trim because my fiancé likes to give head and it’s considerate to him. He doesn’t ask me to but him pulling hair out of his teeth isn’t very sexy in the moment. He does the same for me but otherwise it’s natural as it gets. Hair removal can be painful and difficult and annoying and if people do it - go for it! But yeah it shouldn’t be a given that we all remove our hair. Personal choice and all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 03:29 AM |
| 2 | Women insist that their “taste” or standards are instinctual and without any outside influence, and that they can’t be changed when the opposite has been proven when it comes to physical attraction. Their inflated standards are quite clearly the direct result of their abundance of options.You seem to be wilfully missing the point. But I’ll happily respond anyway: To address your points: 1: “women wanted to show x body part so men pushed them to shave” …..that’s not what I said. Nor is it true. In America and Europe, it was far more uncommon to have entirely bare shoulders + arms on display at the time when the first razors were released specifically for women. If you look at the two dates in the paragraph I quotes, the first razor was released in 1915, sleeveless dresses and tops… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 03:27 AM |
| 12 | Women...ALL WOMEN...hate men who act like pussiesfuriously takes notes * | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/23 02:16 AM |
| 10 | Women insist that their “taste” or standards are instinctual and without any outside influence, and that they can’t be changed when the opposite has been proven when it comes to physical attraction. Their inflated standards are quite clearly the direct result of their abundance of options.This is from the Smithsonian Website: “Beginning in the early twentieth century, manufacturers of safety razors, seeking to expand their market, promoted the idea that body hair on women is inherently masculine and indelicate, as well as unhygienic. Gillette introduced the first razor marketed specifically to women, called the Milady Decollette, in 1915. In the 1920s, the new fashion for sleeveless tops and short dresses meant that the legs and armpits of American women were now visible in socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 10:50 PM |
| 0 | Why can't women be more obvious when they are genuinly looking for a lover.As a woman, I use “I have a fiancé” for 1 reason: 1: I’m not interested but you don’t respect my no, however maybe you’ll respect my fiancés claim on me more. | /r/AllPillDebate | 21/06/23 09:35 AM |
| 0 | What is exactly emotional labour which women do?I think it’s more about it being collaborative and not forcing your partner to take on extra tasks that you should be more than capable of handling. Here’s two examples from the first year of my relationship. I work 10-12 hour shifts over 1 hour away from my house, my fiancé works from home most days and wraps up in 6 hours. My fiancé said he could do the grocery shopping. Now seeing as I’m at work and he’s at home, what makes more sense: A) My fiancé checks our kitchen and pantry, takes note of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 12:25 AM |
| 2 | What is exactly emotional labour which women do?Id disagree. I’ve seen plenty men on this site judging women for staying in abusive relationships, their own assault, their circumstances. Some people are judgy assholes it’s not gendered | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 12:07 AM |
| 9 | What is exactly emotional labour which women do?I grew up with two parents who didn’t do those things at first. I have four siblings. Things didn’t get done - forms not signed, uniforms not secured, people not picked up from various appointments or activities….. It wastes less time to do the mental labour than not do it. If my dad had a calendar where he could see I was at choir he would have picked me up after my sisters drama rehearsal in 1 trip not two. Little things like that add up | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/23 12:01 AM |
| 2 | Marrying in your 20s is not that badNo? Not exactly. If you’re under huge pressure from extended family to have a large traditional wedding and you’re 22, you’re more likely to give in. In that case it’s other people influencing it. Like yeah, you can always say no, and stand your ground, but if you’re parents or family are pressuring or coercing you into it, that’s far easier for them to do when you’re young. My grandmothers culture (mine too) and vanity demands a fairly large celebration and a church and a thousand other things.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/23 02:21 AM |
| 3 | Marrying in your 20s is not that badGood for you! I’m not keen on an expensive wedding either and none of the issues I listed above apply to me. But thanks for the input! ETA: this came off way snarkier than I intended apologies. But as it stands, while you would not be willing to spend money on a wedding and that is your choice, other people want that. And while we can always advise them to spend within their means and be realistic there is nothing wrong with people who want to have a ceremony and reception over a courthouse affa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 11:43 PM |
| 3 | Marrying in your 20s is not that badNot always. Shit is just more expensive as soon as the word “wedding” is attached. Also lack of experience with planning these kind of events or going to these events can lead to poor choices that aren’t always cost effective. I had an extremely modest engagement party in my back yard. I rewore a dress, we made food, had about 40 people in attendance, hired decorations (nothing huge just chairs, lights, and a marquee) and bought the drinks and that set us back over 3 grand all up. And I am VERY … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 09:15 PM |
| 2 | Marrying in your 20s is not that badHard agree here, and I’m happily engaged at 26. It’s a lot to expect people whose brains are only mostly developed, people who are just starting careers or finishing their studies, to take on the work of a lifetime commitment. Many people resent settling down early, many people aren’t prepared for the work it takes to plan a wedding let alone a whole life together. The expense alone is a great reason to wait (the fiancé and I are planning a long engagement just to give us time to save) and peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 12:49 PM |
| – | Do women want emotional vulnerability from men? If so, what do they mean by it?I think its different if you both like each other and know each other and are ok with that level of intimacy. However if you’re not prepared and don’t know them that well it’s a little confronting. A second date with a guy ended with a long, disturbing childhood story about some severe bullying they inflicted on a classmate because of the bullying and abuse their older brother inflicted on them. He felt great to get that off his chest. For me, I’d met him once before our first date, and only kno… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Do women want emotional vulnerability from men? If so, what do they mean by it?ETA: the format ducked up and arranged the first bit into dot points so I edited it to make sense. I was falling asleep as I wrote this which didn’t help lol. It means different things for different people. Broadly, I’d say emotional vulnerability means being comfortable experiencing a range of emotion and not defaulting to displaying it through anger. Being sad when you’re sad instead of getting angry when you’re sad. Feeling joy and disappointment as they are and not as rage. Men are socialise… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/23 04:11 AM |
| 2 | What do you expect of men in a long term relationship ?I mean we split duties? We both contribute? We both cook on alternate nights and whoever doesn’t cook does the dishes. Sometimes I will treat him yes, and sometimes he treats me. And if he has a commitment one evening that means he won’t be able to cook on his night, I’ll cook instead, and vice versa. We’re adults. We both contribute as equally as possible to the maintenance of our living space and our health. I just would never date or be with anyone who wasn’t capable of cooking for themselves… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 08:03 PM |
| 2 | What do you expect of men in a long term relationship ?Subservient to me in all things and supportive of my plan to subjugate men. I kid. Obviously. I mean what I expect most is kindness. Kindness is important to me. Even if we disagree and butt heads, we both choose kindness. We don’t take cheap shots. We show compassion for each other. I expect someone who pulls their weight in the relationship. They don’t need me to delegate tasks to them - they can clean up after themselves and cook. If the house is messy, they don’t ask “well what do I do” they… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 07:19 PM |
| 4 | Maybe the issue is the extreme bitterness toward womenYou can’t fix someone else’s bitterness though. That is an internal journey. I say this as someone who is bitter by nature. It has never once actually fixed my problems. It is true that things are unfair. And it’s true that a lot of why it’s unfair is out of our control. And we can’t always control how we feel. But we can control what we do. And while bitterness is great for kick starting a growth journey, if we rely on just that it’s harder to actually find happiness, because the growing isn’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/23 05:59 PM |
| 1 | BLM in the streets, KKK in the sheetsProximity is a thing though? I live in a mostly white country where policy restricted anyone who wasn’t white from immigrating here from 1901-1966, with the policy only really properly ending when we introduced anti discrimination laws in the 1970s. If you’re surrounded by apples and eat an apple, that doesn’t mean you hate oranges, it just means you picked from the available options presented to you. Sure some people exist the way you’ve described, but I’d say a lot of people just pick from wha… | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/06/23 05:10 AM |
| 0 | Women can't grasp that a man could respect a woman he's not attracted to; because women are innately disgusted by men they're unattracted toOhhhh you’re the guy who claimed to respect women and then called a guy a cuck and claimed his girlfriend must be fat, old, and with a high body count because he was in an open relationship Real respectful to try and use your assumption of her looks to belittle him because you didn’t respect their reaidonship….. I’m not sure you understand what respect is | /r/AllPillDebate | 13/06/23 11:15 PM |
| 14 | Women’s hypersensitivity to awkwardness and lack of social prowess/dominance is not rooted in fear or some “survival instinct” they’ve evolved in response to dangerous men, but rather in their privilege and abundanceActually the idea that all men are just after one thing so we have to protect ourselves (at least where I’m from) came WAY more from my conservative and traditional grandmothers and catholic school teachers than my feminist mum. I was twelve the first time I was catcalled (and looked younger). I told my mum, she said if it ever happened again and I was scared to go into the nearest shop and call home and she’d come get me. And when I was older she told me to flip them off or yell “pedo” at them … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/23 02:23 AM |
| – | CMV: The problems expressed here are middle class, primarily white people’s made up issues. Upper class and lower class don’t have issues like what you’re describing.Genuine question, not trying to start shit I’m just curious - Do you care at all what a woman does for a living? I see men in this subreddit constantly say they don’t care about a woman’s education/career/hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/23 10:26 AM |
| 3 | Neurotypical Women v. Autistic WomenEhhhhh not really. (Source: I have ADHD and have a bunch of friends with autism, ADHD, or both. Many are women). Womens intuition isn’t a superpower. One theory is that gut feelings or intuition is just that our brain has picked up on information we haven’t processed yet. And people with autism can be scarily good at pattern recognition. | /r/AllPillDebate | 01/06/23 04:02 PM |
| 21 | Women should admit it is kind of a privilege that they essentially control the couple's social lifeA hundred percent agree it’s exhausting. My own fiancé is fantastic, love him to bits, but this post reminds me of an argument we had a year ago when he complained he never got to pick the dinners. I reminded him that even when he volunteered to do the grocery shopping, he would always ask me to make the list. Even if I was at work I’d get texts asking for what we needed. I’d be out of the house, he’d be getting ready to go and instead of looking around and making some decisions he would ask me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/23 03:51 PM |
| 4 | Racial preferences don't make someone racistI think it’s important to consider the WHY of it though. There is very little we just like or dislike ‘because’. Back in Renaissance Europe, there was a trend for plucking the hairline to make a larger forehead. Women in China had their feet bound to make them small. These ideas didn’t come from nowhere, they came from cultural beliefs that then turned into common practice. What we consider beautiful is very influenced by what we see and what we’re told to emulate. Which is why we should always … | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/05/23 08:36 AM |
| 6 | Racial preferences don't make someone racistI always have questions whenever anyone says they have a racial preference: How strong is this preference? For example, my fiancé has a preference for dyed hair (like blues, pinks, purples, etc). He thinks it’s sick and creative. I do not dye my hair atm (haven’t for a few years) and while my fiancé does prefer dyed hair, he has never gone after ONLY people with dyed hair, never pursued anyone based mostly on their hair colour, never made me feel bad about not dying my hair, never made me feel u… | /r/AllPillDebate | 24/05/23 06:59 AM |
| 4 | why do people argue they are afraid to marry a virgin because the sex might be bad?From a woman’s perspective? (Well my perspective, and I happen fo be a woman). You can’t tell whose gonna be compatible with you in bed. Or if you can, it’s really bloody hard. I’ve had sex with inexperienced men (even virgins) and my main issue was that for them, they imagined sex to be a lot more like porn than it really is - they wouldn’t really take gentle direction, they would get extremely sulky about it (a real conversation was when my ex asked me if I came, I honestly said I didn’t, he a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Does someone know why some guys are so obsessed with a woman's fertility?Hi! I don’t believe I mentioned my relationship status in this thread which leads me to believe you must have looked through my comment history. To be honest, I don’t particularly feel like justifying the relationship my fiancé and I share on a post that is very unrelated to it. Not only does it detract from the point of the post and it’s replies, but I think in this particular environment it’s just asking for trouble. Lots of lurkers who’ll comment to say stuff about me and my fiancé. I don’t w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/23 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Does someone know why some guys are so obsessed with a woman's fertility?Ok you do you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 06:33 AM |
| 0 | Does someone know why some guys are so obsessed with a woman's fertility?‘Scuse me sorry? Your response was just ‘eggs’ so I assumed you just wanted to talk about what you liked for breakfast. Also - not all women ovulate, not all people who ovulate are women. So your troll doesn’t even work. But thanks for playing! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 05:41 AM |
| 1 | Does someone know why some guys are so obsessed with a woman's fertility?Fried, poached, sunny side up, boiled? Want some bacon with that too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/23 05:27 AM |
| 6 | CMV : “Looks don’t matter” is not a common theme in culture. It’s the opposite.Look, looks matter, but it doesn’t exist in a vacuum. There are a broadly defined set of traits MOST people agree are attractive - it’s why we have beauty standards after all. But the argument for looking a certain way strips all nuance from everything. While being tall is usually a sure fire way to appear more attractive, that doesn’t mean that all guys automatically under a certain threshold can’t be seen as attractive. While being muscular is generally seen as attractive, or having a good hea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Does someone know why some guys are so obsessed with a woman's fertility?I just wanna make sure….you realise fertility and wetness aren’t the same, right? Cervical mucus is an indicator of ovulation. Plenty of people who ovulate aren’t fertile. ETA: arousal too. If people aren’t getting wet it could be a hormonal issue, meds, diet, or maybe they’re not turned on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/23 07:35 AM |
| 8 | The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men.Well then seeing as you see the hypocrisy in Jordan Peterson’s view you can also see why some people found humour in it. I don’t think we should mock tears. Petersons tears here feel deeply ironic because it’s the kind of chaotic emotional response he so often attributes to women. And even in his book he dedicated some lines to how the “chaotic feminine” was good but from memory a couple pages worth of chaos being bad. It’s amusing he’s demonstrating behaviour that he would look down on. The cry… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 05:13 PM |
| 8 | The mockery directed toward's peterson's crying on live Tv is proof of women's loathing of weak emotional men.Wouldn’t you say RP suffers from the apex fallacy too when it comes to women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 04:30 PM |
| – | Women, how much did your relationship with your father affect that with men?My dad is many things. He’s keenly interested in history, politics, and music. He is quietly thoughtful and wickedly intelligent and deeply passionate about learning. He is very empathetic and fair minded. He is the only person I’ve ever met who is capable of having a civil debate, because he will always consider the opposite view and never try and alienate people for thinking differently. He is extremely funny. He questions everything, and not in that shitty “devils advocate” mean spirited way…… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/23 03:23 PM |
| 2 | QW: How can men be better boyfriends, husbands, and lovers to their partners?Good catch! That is actually something I said at the start of my comment. I also repeated it at the end. | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/05/23 07:12 AM |
| 1 | QW: How can men be better boyfriends, husbands, and lovers to their partners?One of the most important things is consistent sincere efforts. Even if you don’t get everything right all the time (no one does) the fact that you are trying should always be appreciated (and provided your partner isn’t an asshole, will be). You’ll do just fine, OP. Relationships always take work, but love is a verb, not just a noun. It’s an action you choose to nurture and invest in. The trick is, it should be work you are happy to do. If the happiness is outweighed by the work, time to reeval… | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/05/23 02:22 AM |
| 2 | QW: How can men be better boyfriends, husbands, and lovers to their partners?I mean everyone already has made the usual points - have hobbies, take care of yourself, etc - and I don’t want to retread that ground so here are some specific things (also halfway through Writing i realised this is just solid advice for everyone so it’s gender non specific I guess?) Feel your emotions in a healthy way - like, if you’re angry don’t go around punching walls or kicking doors. That is immature, and scary. Be angry, but be angry in a way that isn’t destructive to yourself or others… | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/05/23 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Yes the manosphere needs to denounce abuse but women also need to stop categorising things that are not abuse as abuseWhat’s an “acceptable” number then? Genuinely, what is? When is the number too high? When is it acceptable? At what point should we be concerned? I never argued that more men aren’t killed on the daily. It’s just in a thread centred around rebutting the idea that the TRP condones abuse, I pointed out that around 1/3rd of women murdered are murdered due to domestic abuse which is a genuine concern for women. It’s undoubtedly true that worldwide men are murdered more….it’s also true that the vast … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 05:33 PM |
| 2 | Yes the manosphere needs to denounce abuse but women also need to stop categorising things that are not abuse as abuseThere’s something that’s been levelled against me a few times here: “No true Scotsman” You don’t believe that the TRP condones abuse and that those who do aren’t really TRP followers….and yet there are a vocal subset of (mostly) men who call themselves TRPers who condone those acts. The answer to this is not to say “hey they aren’t REALLY trp not like me” the answer is to directly call out those individuals and challenge them - they share those views and claim to be TRP because they believe TRP … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 03:36 PM |
| 0 | Yes the manosphere needs to denounce abuse but women also need to stop categorising things that are not abuse as abusePosted comment to wrong thing ignore me :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/05/23 03:36 PM |
| 28 | Why are so many child free women not pet free? It doesn’t make sense to not want kids but want pets instead.Several reasons! Cost. Pets are far less pricey than kids. Time. For the first 16ish years of a child’s life, they are fairly dependent on you for most things, when they get a car I assume some of the time sink goes down but definitely in early childhood it’s a constant thing. Many pets do require a lot of time but not nearly as much as a child would. I don’t want to be pregnant. most importantly…I’d be a bad mother to a human. I’m a good babysitter, a fantastic aunt, but I do not have the patie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/23 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Red pill ideology is guys thinking they speak objective truths, but it’s based on very subjective measurements.Funnily enough, there was a 2012 article/study analysis where 9000 people across 37 countries were surveyed (I’ll link when I track it down) that found the MORE gender equal a country, the LESS gender differences with assumed evolutionary basis came into play when it came to picking a partner. Or - gender more equal? ‘Marrying up’ less focussed on (proportional to the rise in equality). Which I think is interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/23 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Women you have 5 points to create your ideal man. What are you picking,I guess then my fiancé doesn’t write me poetry, but he does join meme pages dedicated to my favourite things just to find me the best memes. Love truly is a wonderful thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 03:30 PM |
| 2 | Women you have 5 points to create your ideal man. What are you picking,3, 4, 5, 9,11 (No kids for 9) My fiancé is sweet, kind, funny, resourceful. He doesn’t buy flowers, he picks them on his way home from work. He is gentle and we have so much fun together. He’s my ideal man. He’s everything I ever wanted and I got it so I feel pretty lucky | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 11:46 AM |
| 2 | Women you have 5 points to create your ideal man. What are you picking,Mine too! Although I hate the idea of poetry being read to me. As long as he’s romantic in a way that suits us both I don’t mind (my fiancé picks me Flowers on his way home from work and that’s top tier romance to me.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/05/23 11:43 AM |
| – | Women, do you have shy female friends?I’ve got shy friends of all genders. I think very well of them - they’re my friends. I don’t mind that they’re shy, I’m an introvert myself (I just wear an extrovert mask when I have to I guess. Really don’t prefer it though). They’re just people and their shyness doesn’t have an affect on our friendship or why I’m friends with them. Id honestly say most of them are ready for a relationship (or in relationships). There’s one or two where their shyness is just a result of crippling anxiety, and I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/23 01:53 PM |
| 1 | Relationships are for losers…….I’ve met many couples who are still genuinely in love. Yes many older couples stay together because of your reasons, some actually do love each other too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/23 05:09 AM |
| 16 | Relationships are for losersMaybe sex is tge most important thing to you, but I dunno, my fiancé actually values me as a person outside of the sexual gratification I can bring him. Wild I know, but I guess people really are different | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 03:03 PM |
| 33 | Relationships are for losersYou’re acting as if all a man would get from a long term relationship is…..sex. My fiancé gets a fuckton of things from the relationship; He has someone to take care of him when he’s sick, someone who laughs at his jokes and brings him coffee in the morning. He has someone to watch movies with and send dumb memes to, someone to cuddle with and cry in front of and sleep next to and spoil and be spoiled by. He’s got someone he can trust to have his back, but who will call him out when he’s being s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/23 11:42 AM |
| 4 | Sperm Competition Risk: The Connections That Partner Attractiveness and Infidelity Risk Have with Mate Retention Behaviors and Semen-Displacing BehaviorsI ….. don’t condone cheating? I also think if it’s to a point where it’s bad enough you’ll cheat you should probably leave if you’d rather cheat than fix things. I’ve been cheated on. I just also know that a lot of the time the cheating is because of deeper issues with the relationship - the cheater is way more at fault (cases like abuse notwithstanding) but I can recognise, as someone whose been cheated on, that just because I was hurt more in the situation doesn’t mean my behaviour in the rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 05:23 PM |
| 3 | Sperm Competition Risk: The Connections That Partner Attractiveness and Infidelity Risk Have with Mate Retention Behaviors and Semen-Displacing BehaviorsIs it wise for women to date men in the modern era with the risk of infidelity? All relationships carry the risk of infidelity. It’s just how large or small the risk is. From what I can tell, this study is just saying that men who become controlling (the “cost inflicting make retention” behaviour) are more likely to have their partners cheat/be cheated on. EDIT: Obviously it’s saying other things too but that part is just reiterating a pretty standard rule one thumb. Which like…..yeah, if you’re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/23 04:22 PM |
| 1 | What do women actually gain by getting into a committed relationship with a Red Pill man?My mum had 5 kids. 4 of them fairly close together (under 2 years) and she has a terrible time breastfeeding. It wore her out so bad she could barely move some days. It was painful, and difficult, and miserable. My sister had a baby recently and couldn’t breastfeed stay all so she formula fed. The recovery from her (complicated, long, medically difficult) labour left her barely able to shower by herself for 2 months. One of my coworkers had a baby and bounced Back within a few weeks, and had the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 04:27 PM |
| 1 | What do women actually gain by getting into a committed relationship with a Red Pill man?My mum had 5 kids. 4 of them fairly close together (under 2 years) and she has a terrible time breastfeeding. It wore her out so bad she could barely move some days. It was painful, and difficult, and miserable. My sister had a baby recently and couldn’t breastfeed stay all so she formula fed. The recovery from her (complicated, long, medically difficult) labour left her barely able to shower by herself for 2 months. One of my coworkers had a baby and bounced Back within a few weeks, and had the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 04:26 PM |
| 2 | What do women actually gain by getting into a committed relationship with a Red Pill man?My mum had 5 kids. 4 of them fairly close together (under 2 years) and she has a terrible time breastfeeding. It wore her out so bad she could barely move some days. It was painful, and difficult, and miserable. My sister had a baby recently and couldn’t breastfeed stay all so she formula fed. The recovery from her (complicated, long, medically difficult) labour left her barely able to shower by herself for 2 months. One of my coworkers had a baby and bounced Back within a few weeks, and had the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/04/23 04:26 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]How do you personally define “single by choice”?For me, I was single by choice - it meant I was not looking and not interested in anyone who was. I’d just gotten out of a relationship (only 6 months, nothing long term) and decided I wasn’t really interested and I wanted time to work on myself and my own hobbies. But I was also single by choice for a while after a different relationship and having fun going on dates - I wasn’t looking for anything long term, and I made that clear up front that I was just meeting people and having a good time. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/23 05:45 AM |
| 5 | Men who advocate for trad relationships, what do you expect your relationship to look like in the future?Australia is a fucked country. The whole ‘easy going laid back’ culture means we are so slow to actually act on issues, especially if acting requires effort. There’s so much disdain and disgust and condescension towards anyone struggling hidden under a thin veneer of progressive buzzwords. ‘Lucky country’ my ass. Lucky if you’re born white and rich. I’ve followed along a little with the mass graves stories in Canada….it must be so heartbreaking for everyone there with any connection to that cult… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 04:10 PM |
| 5 | Men who advocate for trad relationships, what do you expect your relationship to look like in the future?A lot of those women had….yknow…..jobs before their kids. Many women do. We have RIDICULOUSLY expensive childcare here so many women stay home with the kids. Then 20 odd years later if a divorce hits they’re fucked. OP said that women have a hard time finding income sources after being a SAHM. You said ‘data analyst jobs are x amount’. I merely pointed out getting a job after being a SAHM is hard by going into further detail and using a crisis in my country to show why it wasn’t as simple as you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 01:11 PM |
| 11 | Men who advocate for trad relationships, what do you expect your relationship to look like in the future?Yes but WFH jobs (jobs in general) that pay THAT well are rare at best and highly competitive. If you don’t have prior experience, or a spotty work history due to raising kids, it’s much harder to get a job in general. Add in things like being older when older people in general find jobs hard to get anyway and it’s not an easy solution. Where I’m from, we have a real problem where single divorced older women who were homemakers are living in cars or on couches or in tents because their part time… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 02:55 AM |
| 2 | ALL men who want to date should go to the gym and take care of themselves, and women are reasonable to demand that.This ^ At my fittest and healthiest (6+ hours of Pole classss a week, I was doing aerial tricks so a lot of core and arm strength as well as intense cardio) I was also at my biggest. My body hates muscle definition and loves to hold on to fat reserves. These days my fitness is walking the dog and yoga a couple times a week. I’m far slimmer and it’s entirely because my medication for ADHD has raised my metabolism so much that just existing as a human melted away my fat mostly. I must’ve lost 12kg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?1 month on huh? I mean depends - I’ve known multiple women almost entirely lose their libido. Sometimes lower libido just means a little less, sometimes it almost disappeared entirely. Some people would classify an entire loss of sex drive as a negative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/23 01:50 AM |
| – | Ladies, how would you describe the difference between being a doormat and being submissive?Hmmmm I mean submissive does mean like, obedient or passive to authority/an authority figure so on principle I don’t like the term. It feels too much like a definite or a rule rather than part of a healthy exchange. With my fiancé, there are absolutely times when he is better equipped for something so I follow his lead, and other times where I’m better equipped so he follows mine, but to me that’s not submission because there’s still room to question and exchange ideas and compromise. I feel lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/23 06:21 AM |
| – | CMV: Women on PPD exaggerate how much women generally work and earn.Oh awesome then we’re in agreement! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/23 01:28 AM |
| – | CMV: Women on PPD exaggerate how much women generally work and earn.My fiancée and I both have office jobs. His undeniably comes with more responsibility (and the stress of that) and when he’s in a busy period he’s exhausted, but 3/4 weeks a month he’s done all his tasks by midday and just poops around. My job is definitely less stressful as the responsibility is low, but I have a far longer commute (1 hour each way versus 15 minutes) and as opposed to several clear tasks I have maybe 15 tasks a day to do on top of the usual customer service aspects involved in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/04/23 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the dick pill? Potentially the most brutal pill.He’s genuinely trying to say he knows better than women what they like in bed. On reddit there are tons of threads where women talk about what makes someone ‘good at sex’ to them and they constantly bring up foreplay, communication, and effort. If someone enjoys large dicks sure, that makes the experience good to someone, but to act like it’s the one defining factor of skill in bed is ridiculous. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/04/23 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the dick pill? Potentially the most brutal pill.Didn’t you say the most popular type of dildo is 7.5 inches? Surely then cervical orgasms wouldn’t be so rare considering how many women own dildos of that size. They’d be more common. You’re trying to tell us that a big dick is essential for good sex and it’s the ONLY thing you need to be good at it. It’s a ridiculous hypothesis. People have kinks and fetishes that make sex good for them that don’t involve cervical orgasms or large dicks. People have conditions that make deep penetration painfu… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/04/23 02:34 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the dick pill? Potentially the most brutal pill.They’re also far rarer because not every woman has them - a large amount of women find contact with the cervix painful. So I still think your argument is flawed. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/04/23 01:31 PM |
| 3 | The problem with dating isn't women being hypergamous, it's men (trying) to be polygamousApparently women only truly want the top 20% and just lie to the other men and settle for them. ETA: I am a woman who doesn’t agree with that because honestly attractiveness and worth are subjective to a certain degree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/04/23 10:30 AM |
| -1 | Thoughts on the dick pill? Potentially the most brutal pill.I mean we have 10,000 nerve endings in the clitoris and most of the nerve endings (90%) inside the vagina are in the third closest to the opening/entrance so it also just produces stronger sensation leading to more reliable/faster achievement of orgasm yeah. | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/04/23 01:52 AM |
| 2 | Thoughts on the dick pill? Potentially the most brutal pill.I mean scientifically speaking, the clitoris has something like 10,000 nerve endings, the most of any part of the vagina. While a vagina does have nerve endings inside it, 90% of those nerve endings are concentrated in the lowest third of the vagina closest to the opening. It’s theorised that this is because childbirth would be much much worse if we were that sensitive all the way through. So that’s the blatantly obvious reason most women need clitoral stimulation - the nerve endings are very mu… | /r/AllPillDebate | 04/04/23 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Thoughts on the dick pill? Potentially the most brutal pill.I disagree. For a couple reasons. 1: I think the stats suggest any number between 70-90% of women need clitoral stimulation to orgasm and I’m not sure how a large penis would help with that. (I’m assuming we’re measuring ‘good at sex’ to mean ‘both parties regularly get off and have fun and make each other feel good.’) 2: Every vagina is also differently shaped and while they do elongate during sex, it goes from 3-4 inches to 4-8 on average. So average sized men are still able to do a lot with t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 03/04/23 07:50 PM |
| 3 | Are female beauty standards really that bad?Solid take I entirely agree. Most people are fairly average in looks and date and marry and love other average people. Just because our ideals (both men and women) might resemble picture perfect celebrities doesn’t mean we don’t feel real attraction and love towards the person we choose to be with and build a life with. Beauty and attractiveness is also not just looks. The more you know and love a person, the better they become to you. My fiancée is not the handsomest man in the world but to me … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 06:33 PM |
| 7 | If you had to choose between these 2 men, who would it be and why?I’ve only ever loved one man and it was him and has been him for most of a decade now so. I feel pretty good about this. But thanks for the opinion I guess? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 09:19 AM |
| 14 | If you had to choose between these 2 men, who would it be and why?I’m assuming in this hypothetical I’m single and never met my fiancée because he spoiled me for men forever but like…..obviously A. Average looks? So are most people. Average is the average. Attraction is more than just ticking physical boxes, and what some people like others don’t. Listens to my problems? Sounds awesome. Isn’t confident? That’s ok, I can support and play hype woman. Tries to be a friend? As in he’s a good friend to his friends and also we have a friend connection within our rom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 02:43 AM |
| 3 | Q for Women: Does it bother you, not bother you, or flatter you, or just not care if men check out your ass while you walk by? I mean if they do it discreetly, and you notice it, and not overtly ogle you like a mouth breather.I am so sorry that happened! That’s disgusting. Honestly I wouldn’t blame you if you had spit on him, you would’ve just been showing him the same respect he showed you. And I feel you on the curves problem tbh - my body started developing at 15 and the way boys went from ignoring me to staring was so fucking uncomfortable. I still remember the school play I went to at 15 and how one of my friends told me I looked gorgeous and complimented my figure (in my twee style Peter Pan collared fit and fl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 01:34 AM |
| 7 | Q for Women: Does it bother you, not bother you, or flatter you, or just not care if men check out your ass while you walk by? I mean if they do it discreetly, and you notice it, and not overtly ogle you like a mouth breather.I am a little uncomfortable but I get uncomfortable with any amount of attention from anyone I don’t know. I joke that I don’t like being perceived but….yeah its not a joke I genuinely hate being perceived most days. I’m not angry or offended or even annoyed if its a quick glance. But if the glance turns into a stare, or a catcall, or gross hand gestures and comments, I get pissed. If you’re gonna check me out have them decency to be subtle about it. I won’t mind the day when no one looks at me.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/04/23 12:43 AM |
| 2 | Why do men hate open relationships?Tread carefully a few people on here get very upset when people have reasonable points | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 09:17 PM |
| 10 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneI mean they are men though. Just shitty ones. Even if you personally don’t think they count as men, if they’re calling themselves men and living as men and presenting as men and they believe they’re men….then people are gonna perceive them as such and their actions do reflect on the whole, unfortunately. Kind of like how many guys here will talk about their bad view on women due to experiences they’ve had and heard about despite not every woman fitting the pattern they describe. So I think it’s … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 03:54 PM |
| 9 | I'm convinced that about 5-10% of men ruin it for everyoneI have a question - you focussed on only the lines about men who ghost/have sex then leave after saying all the right things when OP also discussed (in far more detail) stalking, harassment, verbal abuse in response to rejection and outright abusive relationships. What then is your response to the idea that those men are ruining it for everyone else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/04/23 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Women who can't do their makeup properly and don't have good fashion sense are at a ridiculously huge disadvantageI’m fairly feminine in presentation and mannerisms and I’m here because I hate myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 03:03 AM |
| 1 | Women who can't do their makeup properly and don't have good fashion sense are at a ridiculously huge disadvantageShe’s got light hair so chances are her eyelashes are very light as well, so tricky to see in a photo/from a distance. She has lashes but mascara actually makes them more visible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/04/23 03:02 AM |
| 4 | Is "chasing" women that said no to your date advances ever worth it?……fairly sure I said some women want to be chased and some don’t. Truth is there is no one size fits all approach but in my opinion it’s better to err on the side of caution. I say this as a woman who would hate to be chased. You asked for opinions on whether or not it was worth chasing women, I gave you mine. Sorry that you disagree I guess? ETA: back in the day sure, it worked out more. But like, it’s not working out as much these days so I guess things have changed. People might not like that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 07:04 PM |
| 7 | Is "chasing" women that said no to your date advances ever worth it?Depends on the definition of romance I guess - some people want to be chased through the airport, some people want coffee in the morning. Personally if a girl has outright rejected you, don’t keep going. Even if she DOES secretly want you to chase her, that’s pretty poor communication on her part and not something you have to do. It’s also just as likely she doesn’t want to be chased and her no is, in fact, a no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 06:45 PM |
| 1 | We (women) wear makeup for ourselves is not 100% falseI mean I respectfully disagree. It’s fun to feel like you look good. I love feeling ‘pretty’ even if I get 0 fucking compliments I feel good because I like the way my eyes look with liner. I like wearing pink lipstick because I’m pale and my lips are pale and it balances out my features more. Or in another sense - I have a lot of hair and it’s fairly fine (the follicles are fine, the amount is ridiculous) and it’s ok when I let it grow out but it hangs heavy and weighs down my features. My hair … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 01:19 PM |
| 0 | This video explains why the way men look at women creeps them outHah at 15 I WISHED to be murdered because I was so depressed but so indoctrinated by Catholicism that I refused to off myself out of fear of hell. I guess the church saved me in a sense. I mean I’m still depressed but I don’t want to die now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 12:50 PM |
| 1 | This video explains why the way men look at women creeps them outHah at 15 I WISHED to be murdered because I was so depressed but so indoctrinated by Catholicism that I refused to off myself out of fear of hell. I guess the church saved me in a sense. I mean I’m still depressed but I don’t want to die now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/23 12:50 PM |
| 1 | Alright, let's talk about the "female gaze" versus the "male gaze." As a dude, I gotta say, I get pretty damn irritated by the way people explain this concept. Can't we just appreciate different perspectives without trying to turn it into some kind of battle of the sexes? Let's discuss.Hey so the female gaze is a term that’s been co-opted…..a better definition for it is this; “The female gaze is a feminist theory term referring to the gaze of the female spectator, character or director of an artistic work, but more than the gender it is an issue of representing women as subjects having agency. As such all genders can create films with a female gaze” It’s not about how someone looks but more so about how a director or writer shows the women in a story, not so much what women fi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/03/23 12:16 PM |
| 0 | Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false?Rape culture is a sort of clumsy term - it moreso describes the theory that rape is pervasive and somewhat normalised/downplayed. There are a lot of moving parts to rape culture so I’ll just go over 1 way it affects women and 1 way it affects men. For women, you can often see how rape culture manifests in the way victims are treated. Many people blame women for their own assault, despite the fact that they didn’t cause it, it was someone else’s choices and actions that made the assault happen. Q… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 04:12 PM |
| 3 | Rapper Waka Flocka walks off Fresh and Fit podcast over debate about rape culture and body count. 6 girls leave as well. Myron says rape culture is a myth. Was he being way too insensitive with this topic whether it’s true or false?Even if she was ‘asking for it’ by, in your words, dressing pretty and enjoying attention…..why is assault an appropriate response? Why shouldn’t we have empathy for a victim? Sure, one person made choices that you don’t agree with, but the other person committed a whole ass crime as a response. A crime that often causes trauma (sometimes lifelong). How is that the appropriate reaction? How is that justifiable or excusable? I don’t understand the mindset here. If I ride a bike without a helmet a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 03:55 PM |
| 1 | Aside from "Women's standards are too high or No more good men" Why do you think YOUR single?Oh no…..you won’t sleep with me or find me attractive…..how will I survive…..please say it isn’t true, how can I fix this….. You’re here too pal. Hope you have fun! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 03:04 PM |
| 2 | Aside from "Women's standards are too high or No more good men" Why do you think YOUR single?You just like being proven wrong don’t you? Nothing wrong with being middle aged. Lots of fat people are medically healthy even if you don’t like how they look. I’m neither of those things which really isn’t an achievement because I will be middle aged one day and chances are I’m gonna gain weight and lose weight throughout life. No big deal. Even if I was obese and Middle aged I’d still be allowed to have and share opinions. Some might even be better than other peoples. But you should try and d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 02:54 PM |
| 7 | Q4W: What do you think when the less attractive friend prevents men from talking to you?I’ve both been the friend pulled away and pulled friends away. Every time it’s happened, either as the pulled or puller, it’s because they gave the signal to come get them/I gave the signal to be rescued. Lots of women talk about this stuff and have systems in place. It’s what we do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/23 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Build your own ancient societyNot communist xD Communism would require no private property/private ownership xD Seeing as people own their shit here they just share what they don’t need it isn’t communism xD | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 08:53 AM |
| 7 | Build your own ancient societyFantastic question! I’ll point out I said everyone learns to read and write and then learns what they want. I wasn’t clear enough on what that means. I don’t think teaching everyone to read and write would lose practical skills because in a world before technology everyone constantly had to learn skills to ensure survival. Everyone still has to pitch in obviously. I would be a shit farmer but I’d be great at helping harvest. I’d be a shit wood carver but I can hammer nails into things, chop logs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 06:08 AM |
| 10 | Build your own ancient societyOk I’ll bite. This is something I’ve chatted to my Dad about before while we watch my niece (15 months).The whole ‘it takes a village’ thing rings true. My sisters husband works one week away from home, then gets one week back at home. And the weeks he’s away we help a lot with my niece so my sister can work. Even then watching my niece takes at least two of us so we can swap in and out so we can do things like clean or cook or just go to the bathroom. Anyway to the actual question - as a deity … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/23 05:12 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?I could just peg the fiancée. No risk of pregnancy and we both get off depending on the apparatus. Or you know, he’s getting a vasectomy in the next few years. That works for us too. But until then I guess we’ll be stuck having nasty no-kid producing sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 07:17 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fair enough. Thanks for your comprehensive answer! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/23 07:16 AM |
| 2 | Do you think there's anything wrong with men to filtering out promiscuous women for serious relationships? If so, why?Me personally, as a woman? I don’t really mind that much. I have a varied sexual past and that’s not everyone’s favourite thing - that’s fine! However I have two caveats: 1: Prefer what you like, that’s your business! I don’t gamble because of the high likelihood I’d lose money, if you choose to not take a relationship gamble due to someone’s history, that’s your perogative. But don’t go around shaming people for it. If someone told me “hey I think we’re incompatible because we have different vi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/03/23 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Would you be okay with your partner having a good friend of the opposite sex?I mean me and my fiancée are both bi so if we were gonna cheat it could be with anyone so limiting friends via gender doesn’t make sense to us. We wouldn’t have any friends at all. It’s very much dependent on the individual situation. Some people are very against it and provided their partner is of a similar mindset/happy to acquiesce to that boundary, that’s ok. As long as that works for them. Me? I have very good friends I wouldn’t want to give up for a relationship. My partner and I however d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/23 11:51 PM |
| 2 | if men think 23 year old + is ''post-wall'' isn't that a worse preference than height?I’ve seen 23, 25, 30, all as examples of ‘the wall’ on PPD and very frequently as well. The most common is 25 as far as I’ve seen, although many men on PPD have also listed 18-22 as the ‘ideal age’ for a girlfriend meaning 23+ would be past it to them. People do think like this and it’s fair to wonder why. | /r/AllPillDebate | 15/03/23 09:40 PM |
| 4 | Women should take seriously the question if they want to have children or not early in life and stick to it to avoid suffering.Many western countries do have welfare, true, but the welfare programs are hard to access, and don’t offer as much as you think. In Australia, the most you are given a fortnight is $880. You can’t earn more than $195 a fortnight or the payment begins to go down. This SEEMS like a lot of money until you consider the following: The average cost of a rental in a major city (and Australia’s population is heavily concentrated to the capital cities because that’s where all the jobs are) is as low as $… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/03/23 08:56 PM |
| 1 | some ideas on how to avert af/bbOof I don’t think AF/BB is the grand epidemic you think it is. Like sure maybe some people do it but like….I’ve yet to hear of any real life examples of this or see anything so I’m assuming it’s a small minority. So unless you are somehow with a person who fits the type that an ‘alpha’ would ever go for, why not just forget about the AF/BB idea and focus on building a healthy relationship not worrying about what hypothetical hot girls are doing with hypothetical hot guys? | /r/AllPillDebate | 14/03/23 01:41 PM |
| 6 | The reason the manosphere is mad about AF/BB is because, while, even though the majority of women may not fit the archetype, it is a really smart stratergyI’d be interested to read this study if you find it. I’m firmly not RP but I always am fascinated by the studies and research they use to support their arguments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/23 01:00 AM |
| 6 | Q4W - Why did Maslow, in his Hierarchy of Needs, originally list Sex as a Basic, Physiological need?I mean it’s been bloody years since I’ve thought of Maslow but from memory… Maslow first got the idea from studying monkeys(?) I think, before developing it further. If you look at a monkeys actions, you can broadly categorise its ‘physiological’ needs I.e the first things it will seek out, it covers food/water, rest/sleep, and sex. Sex in animals with lower levels of cognitive ability is very much a ‘physiological’ need it’s an innate drive they don’t understand fully. It’s a drive to produce c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/23 12:36 AM |
| 3 | Do women want another guy when they end a relationship?It depends on the person, and the relationship. Like sure, many people (men and women) break up and immediately have someone else lined up, or someone in mind to try and date. Other people do end relationships and want to explore options with no one clear in mind, just a sense that they want to see what else is out there. Other people will (either on purpose or due to the above two things not working out) choose to stay single and spend time on their own. When people break up, it’s because there… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/23 12:15 AM |
| 5 | Change my View : Cheating as a Man and as a Woman isnt the same, its a big difference. I am really curious if someone can change my view from a logical standpointYou say a woman dating mr perfect won’t have the urge to cheat, but a man dating miss perfect will have the urge to fuck other women. Not only does this assume women can’t find other people attractive while in a relationship (which they can) but you clearly think that despite them having similar urges, men should be allowed to act on those impulses without consequence. That’s ridiculous. There’s no reason a man would NEED to cheat (or a woman but we’re talking about how men don’t need to be held… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 02:50 PM |
| 26 | Are women worse off if they follow traditional gender roles?Its a bit of a complex issue. People should be able to choose their own destiny, in my opinion. There’s definitely an argument to be made for the benefits of having a stay at home parent, ad well as the benefits of both parents working. But when it comes to families and deciding who will stay home (if possible, if someone wants to and can) it just shouldn’t automatically be the mother unless she also wants that life for herself. No one should be forced into the primary caretaking role, in a rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/03/23 03:26 AM |
| 2 | Do women cheat at a higher rate than men?More single men than single women - I mean, girls are more likely to be openly bi than men. Possibly they’re are more single men because a lot of girls are dating each other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/23 06:02 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men want relationships (romantic) with women more than vice versaOk so, just a thing I got say…. if you’re gonna equate bedroom dynamics to relationship dynamics, you should understand the dynamic you’re referencing. I say this because you say women want to be dominated then equate a gay man ‘bottoming’ as being the less dominant partner and fulfilling the role of the ‘woman’ in the dynamic. Also like, if a woman is on top in sex but being penetrated does she have….neutral power? Can a man then only maintain being the ‘top’ in the relationship if he only has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 01:31 PM |
| 2 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menWhat is more unstable - having an untreated mental health issue and refusing to treat it or manage it? Or taking steps to manage your mental health through medication and/or therapy and other techniques? Quite often mental health issues are due to imbalances in the brain chemicals, or hormonal issues, or the result of trauma and other distressing events. The person who takes responsibility for their actions and works on themselves is much healthier than the person who doesn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menAlso Anecdotal I see a lot of tradespeople around (I work in an area with a lot of construction, lived in 2 areas with lots of construction, my grandfather worked a trade, I’ve seen a large spread of different tradies across my life at different stages of life) and while the younger tradies are often quite physically fit, the older they are the less likely that is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Analogy: Male attention is like air for women, Female attention is like food for menActually you gotta fill out a worksheet to state your preferences first. We come with a 30 day warranty so if we aren’t to you’re liking you can just pop us back in the packaging we came in and send us back to the factory for an exchange. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 10:00 AM |
| 2 | How can we fundamentally transform our understanding of masculinity to cultivate healthy and positive expressions of manhood, while dismantling the toxic beliefs and behaviors that often contribute to misogyny and the devaluation of women?No it doesn’t? It just means removing gender from traits we already admire. People can still personally identify with and express their gender in whatever way works for them, but instead of saying ‘men are ALL XYZ’ and ‘women are ALLABC’ otherwise they are lacking, let’s just say ‘hey these traits are good for all people to have, let’s remove gender from it’. If someone wants to express their masculinity with assertiveness that’s fine, but their assertiveness is not tied to the idea of masculini… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/03/23 01:41 AM |
| 1 | black male privilegeStudy? Look at the average spread of who ends up with the most partners overall. For example I am twice as likely to get long covid, as a woman. But like, men are far more likely to end up in hospital from covid. Would I call men privileged because I’m twice as likely to get long covid when they die from it more? | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/03/23 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Gonna enjoy my fake coitus too, thanks dad! Maybe it’s not real to you but the orgasms are super real to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:43 PM |
| 1 | black male privilegeWhat is your point? What’s the study this graph is from? What is the message then? | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/03/23 06:42 PM |
| 5 | black male privilegePrivilege in the context it’s commonly used online is about power dynamics in society and who benefits, and who doesn’t. A black man, by virtue of nothing but his race, is not privileged. He is more likely to be arrested, more likely to be turned down for jobs, promotions, education opportunities. In America, the history of slavery and then segregation have disenfranchised black families and kept them in generational poverty cycles. Black men are more likely to receive harsher prison sentences t… | /r/AllPillDebate | 09/03/23 06:40 PM |
| 6 | How can we fundamentally transform our understanding of masculinity to cultivate healthy and positive expressions of manhood, while dismantling the toxic beliefs and behaviors that often contribute to misogyny and the devaluation of women?I personally think we shouldn’t have any ‘masculine’ or ‘feminine’ labelled traits. Just traits that make you a good person to strive towards. We should as a society all value these traits equally - emotional openness and empathy, protectiveness and assertiveness, strength and softness, these should be considered human traits and not gender-specific. Masculinity, instead of being a prescribed ‘ideal’ all men should strive towards, can instead be what they feel like makes them more of a good man.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Ahhhh you’ve guessed my follow up! As long as you’re happy wearing a condom if your partner doesn’t take Bc Due to the side effects, that’s totally fine :) If you pressured your partner to get on it despite her having a negative reaction because cream pies are just too good…..then I’d be annoyed. Have a nice day! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:11 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Sorry my guy, it’s rough to feel unattractive (I don’t know you so I can’t judge what you look like but even just feeling that way is shit). Hope you find joy, whatever that means to you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Shit well I never wanna make a baby. Guess I’ll stop having sex. You’ve made my fiancée a very unhappy man today | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Alright! That is your choice. You’re allowed to have it! I disagree only because I personally have had shitty experiences on BC and my fiancée happily switched back to condoms because he really wanted my happiness over how nice it is to go raw, but as long as your partners are t experiencing adverse effects from BC then it’s reasonable for them to continue it. I might not agree with your stance but as long as no one is unwell, I mean I can’t control you. Full disclosure though: If your partner o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?After seeing how BC messed me up my now fiancée immediately said he’d rather us use condoms forever than watch me become that destroyed again. He’s now looking into vasectomies. I was so used to that kind of consideration the men at work ducking SHOCKED me. It’s a given that most women will try BC, but if a male equivalent was released after successful trials they’d not even think about trying. I’m glad men like your husband and my fiancée exist and I hope men who dont already prioritise the hea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?The side effects I listed for men are the most common ones I found across hormonal male bc tests in the past that also showed up in women so those are the ones I chose! Some men did also find an increased sex drive, or decreased. Too high a testosterone level actually negatively affects fertility and sex drive and mood, same as too low, so it’s interesting to me! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:58 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Copper IUD I did leave out, mostly because there’s not a male equivalent for shoving something up there to stop fertility but also because everyone I’ve spoken to about it considers it worse due to the increased cramps and bleeding and the….dislodgement issue. It’s fine I guess but also not great. But so is most birth control. Hormonal is the more common option and the one I could more easily find an equivalent for in men so I picked that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?I think female hormonal bc is WILDLY over prescribed as well. It’s useful! But so often people with issues like PCOS, endometriosis, acne….are just thrown the pill, without proper testing to uncover the issue. Some progesterone based BC actually worsens PCOS symptoms so there should be at least tests to rule that shit out before you go throwing hormones at people to make sure you don’t exacerbate the problem. But it is useful in preventing pregnancy and it’s not ALL bad all the time. Many people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?That was why I asked actually! Had guys at work complain about condoms one week, and how they’d never try a male birth control because side effects. Which like, fair, you’re in charge of what you put in your body, but then chuck a condom on and stop complaining if you want to put your dick in your girlfriends body, yknow? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Ahhh ok so another hypothetical? I mean my hypothetical was ‘would you take it willingly if it existed’ not ‘if a matriarchy existed and made you take it how would you feel’ so, still confused, but thanks for explaining! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Sir. I beg of you. Stop screaming and just like - understand what a hypothetical is. If such a birth control existed with a similar severity of side effects to women would you take it (not worse, similar or less severe) Like. It’s a hypothetical. Calm yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?This is a hypothetical. If one existed would you take it. I cannot make this any clearer than I have in my (now two) edits. We are assuming in this hypothetical it exists, works, and the side effects are of a similar severity to the ones women experience if not less severe, with side effects observed in studies when they’ve trialled male birth control and women in everyday life from birth control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:48 PM |
| 4 | "Don't fuck a man on the first date because he will ghost you" is terrible advice. And here is why.Cant wait to peg my fiancée tonight and tell him I’ve lowered his SMV because penetrative sex degrades him but makes me more of a stud. Thanks for the neat idea my guy! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Yeah exactly - I much prefer not using a condom with my fiancée but while pregnancy remains a risk (and while I continue to have the WORST luck with birth control) we do what we gotta do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 12:23 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?STIs….? If you’re pulling out it sounds like you don’t use a condom so yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?It’s a gamble. Some women are fine, some aren’t. Some cause clots (research suggests around 300-400 women in the US die from clots related to birth control) some cause suicidal ideation. Some cause bone thinning after extended use. And some people find birth control takes away their severe periods, better regulates their hormonal cycle, helps their acne, and helps their moods. If you look at any birth control packaging there’s always a pamphlet inside with an extensive list of side effects. I’ve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 12:21 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Good for you my guy! As long as you practice safe sex and get tested and everyone’s ok with it you do you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 10:15 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?The risk is definitely why he’s nervy. Thanks for taking the time to chat to me about it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 10:15 AM |
| 4 | "Don't fuck a man on the first date because he will ghost you" is terrible advice. And here is why.The original post is not having sex on the first date for the fear of being ghosted. They should have sex if they want to. I am a full supporter of people having all the ethics, legal, consensual, safe sex they want so no issue there. But we don’t exist in a vacuum and on this subreddit there’s this annoying thing where many RP men (usually men at least) will get angry at women for not having sex quickly enough, then also shame women who do have sex. Which makes no sense. I disagree with your id… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 10:12 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Yeah my fiancée wants to do it. He’s nervous about possible side effects but also nervous about the known quantity of how bad BC has been for me so. I love that vasectomies have become more discussed and talked about openly. I think anyone who doesn’t want children should investigate long term or permanent BC. Unfortunately many women find it extremely difficult to find a doctor willing to do a ligation but hopefully we can find safer more long term BC methods that are easily accessible for all! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:57 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?6 months???? Fuck I was getting 3 months at a time and the week I’d get it - absolute crazy person. But then no periods, clearer skin, fairly normal moods. But the bone thinning is what makes me think it should be off the market. Like, some doctors don’t even mention that side effects. BONE THINNING. Ffs. I told my fiancée and he’s now discussing how we should go about testing this. You’ve created a monster. He just used the word ‘viscosity’ for the first time in the 10 years I’ve known him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fairo! At my work, some men said they’d never try any pill because of possible side effects, yet they’ve also complained about condoms so I wanted to see here if people felt similarly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:39 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Same for women in this - some will have them, some won’t. Some women do great on BC, others have a shit time. Cool! Thanks for answering. My fiancée is the same - he knows I have had a shitty time on al but 1 BC I’ve tried (and like, that one thins the bones so can’t use it long term) but he doesn’t know how he’d react so he’d be game. There are promising studies on male BC, hormonal and non hormonal, so I’m hoping soon we’ll all get to reap the benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:38 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fair enough! My follow up is ‘if not would you be happy to use condoms in an LTR’ so you answered that right off the bat. My fiancée and I are using condoms til he gets a vasectomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:36 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?I mean yeah we both looked at tubal ligation and vasectomy but he was more comfortable with a vasectomy for the following reasons: Vasectomies can be done quickly, with a shorter recovery time, than tubal ligations Vasectomies are less invasive. Tubal ligations come with a few risks that all surgeries have. Women often find it more difficult to get a tubal ligation as many doctors will not agree to do it until a woman has had children. Even with children they will deny it partially due to the 1 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:35 AM |
| 4 | "Don't fuck a man on the first date because he will ghost you" is terrible advice. And here is why.I mean if it’s ‘have sex on the first date’ but the guy ghosts…. So you go on 15 more dates over 2 or so years….that’s having sex with many different men. So it amounts to a higher body count. What’s the rate of first date to relationship conversion? What is ‘too many?’ If I go on those 15 first dates and have sex, but only 2 lead to a relationship, 7 guys ghost me, I end it after a few dates with 3 men and 3 men end it with me after a few dates….like? See what I mean now? You don’t have to end … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:23 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Yeah some BC helps womens acne, some worsens it. I have pre menstrual dyspeptic disorder and supposedly BC what you prescribe to fix the hormones but I’ve tried 6 pills, the injection, and the bar and I went absolutely INSANE on almost all of those. It seems to depend on the individual. A friend and I both had implanon inserted at the same time and I was a horny, angry, depressed, weight-gaining mess. She lost all sex drive but her mood was fine. We got it at a friends suggestion and her only si… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Currently there are some promising studies where the side effects listed are the ones I popped in. The injection was a shit one and I’m glad that study stopped. I think that’s a fair response. Thanks for answering! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:15 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Im curious as to what this means. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fair enough. I’m child free too and my fiancée is planning on a vasectomy to make sure of it. Thanks for your answer! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:13 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?I still wasn’t saying men were wimps. The male birth control options where the studies stopped because of side effects - yeah, that’s good! I’m not saying ‘MEN SHOULD SUFFER’ I’m just wondering if they’d roll the dice given the chance seeing as women have to and many men expect their partners to because they just don’t like condoms. I’m so confused as your anger here. Nowhere did I said ‘men are wimpy and bad’. I’m just saying if there was a birth control on the market similar to womens….would y… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fairo! Thats fair needles can be a tricky thing to navigate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 08:23 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?My framing was in no way meant to lessen the severity of the side effects, just compare them. It’s difficult to say who would have it ‘worse’ on BC. When it was first introduced, the ethical standards on medication testing and trials and what was considered alright to release were looser than they are now. Which is a good thing! The side effects men have reported when trialling BC shouldn’t be so easily accepted as just a part of life. Women shouldn’t have to deal with it either. I will say it’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Luckily they might’ve accidentally discovered a non hormonal male BC without the side effects I listed so hopefully that gets approved so your wife doesn’t have to be on hormonal BC anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 08:01 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Thanks for answering! I ask the follow up only because I work with men who expect their partners to be on BC because they dislike condoms but said they would never consider taking BC themselves due to the side effects. So I’m just litmus testing the subreddit to see where they fall on the issue. I too think that, with things that can affect you like hormonal BC does, it should be about the persons comfort first even if that means compromising with condoms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 08:00 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Thanks for answering! Considering you wouldn’t take male BC, in a LTR would you use condoms because of the side effects hormonal BC has on women or not so much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:58 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?My follow up q to people who say no is ‘are you fine using a condom all the time then’ and you already answered it for me so Thankyou!!! I am also pretty horrified by how the side effects are just ‘accepted’ despite the harm they cause. My fiancée and I made the decision to switch to condoms (he will eventually get a vasectomy) because yeah, my family is also prone to issues and BC reeeeeaaaaalllly destroyed me and just about ended our relationship due to the nature of the changes and how it aff… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:57 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Yeah i loved depo (the injection) but the bone thinning means I can’t be on it continuously and the week I get the shot my mood swings are INSANE. I went from furious to crying to laughing to crying within 3 minutes at one point. And the implanon…..I was a different person. Entirely different. I was an absolute horror show of a human and I gained a ridiculous amount of weight. Considering the pill had also fucked me when I first went on it, we just decided to stick to condoms until we figured ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:50 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Thanks for elaborating! I’m also all for more BC being available. My fiancée has seen me go through it trying to find one that works and we rely on condoms. He’s always said if he could try a male BC it would, and if it affected him as badly as I was affected then he’d be fine switching back. they are developing a non hormonal BC so hopefully it won’t be an issue of side effects at all. I just also work with men who said they would never try a male hormonal one due to side effects, but they have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:40 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?So another common side effect of female hormonal BC is a lowered sex drive - in that case condoms would be happily used because of the functionality? Not trying to be belligerent just trying to see perspectives and figure out peoples reasonings for things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:36 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Good news is they’re currently developing a non hormonal BC they found accidentally while trying to deal with blindness in mice so. Might be one available in the next 10 years with none of those side effects! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:35 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?I can only hope a non hormonal female birth control is also developed because every woman I know has a BC horror story and that’s just wild to me. With all the variety it still takes a ridiculous amount of effort to find a BC where the side effects are manageable enough to justify it. But that’s a seperate issue. I’m glad that men will have an option as well as condoms. Especially with abortion access being so tricky in so much of the world it’s only a plus for more people to have access to BC. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:34 AM |
| 4 | What does ‘feminine’ mean to you?Yeah my fiancée and I have a similar outlook. My work hours finish later in the day so he cooks more because otherwise we wouldn’t eat til 10pm. But I make up for it by taking on other extra tasks. And yeah when he needs support he gets it, when I do I get it, provided we both feel like our needs are met we don’t care about the rest. Real life isn’t set roles for us, it’s constant negotiation because circumstances change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:30 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?No male BC has been approved as of yet due to those side effects. However they are developing various non hormonal birth control that wouldn’t have those side effects. So I’m not sure what your comment is referring to considering my question was a hypothetical. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:27 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fair enough! I ask mostly because I know a lot of men don’t like condoms so the burden for BC falls on the women. My fiancée and I rely on condoms as my reactions to BC were extreme and the only one that didn’t send me insane thins your bones after a couple years so I can only go on it 1 year on, 1 year off. So I like to see peoples reasonings as to why they would or wouldn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:26 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?I’m not saying men are wimps just saying women go through it too, so would the men be happy to go through it as well if it was available knowing women have a similar experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:24 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?In a LTR would you be happy to use condoms long term if your partner couldn’t take the pill? ETA and other hormonal birth control methods? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:23 AM |
| 0 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fair enough! Would you be happy using condoms long term in that case then? Seeing as womens hormonal BC has similar side effects? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:23 AM |
| 5 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Follow up - would you happily use condoms in an LTR if your partner had bad reactions to hormonal BC? I fully support not wanting it in practice, provided what’s good for the goose is the same as what’s good for the gander. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:22 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Fair enough! I’m always just curious as to the whys and why nots. As long as the ideology is consistent (I wouldn’t take it, women shouldn’t have to either if they don’t want to) I don’t mind people not being a fan of it. I myself can’t have BC due to how it affected me but my fiancée would never force me to. We aren’t the biggest fans of condoms but we’re much happier using them then me going through it with BC again. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:21 AM |
| 7 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Actually they’re in the early stages of a non hormonal male bc they discovered by accident so let’s hope for the best! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:20 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Ah ok. That’s fair! I myself can’t take hormonal birth control as the side effects for me were pretty terrible (best one thinned my bones with long term use whoopsies) What alternatives would you pursue then? Condoms are an obvious one I know but nothings foolproof a lot of people use condoms and BC. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: How do you feel about taking male birth control?Could you tell me why? Love hearing the reasonings both ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 07:18 AM |
| 5 | What does ‘feminine’ mean to you?That’s interesting! I think the fact that you are both happy in your roles and are able to switch depending on the other persons needs at a particular point is really cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:40 AM |
| 6 | "Don't fuck a man on the first date because he will ghost you" is terrible advice. And here is why.Here’s my issue with this line of thinking - Women are criticised in this subreddit all the time for having casual sex, or too much sex. If we sleep with guys on the first date and they ghost, that’s not relationship sex that is CASUAL and we get criticised for it. So shouldn’t you be happy when women decide to hold off on sex for a little while? It confuses me when the messaging is THAT contradictory. I am a firm believer in people doing what they want with sex provided it is legal, safe, conse… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 05:15 AM |
| 10 | "Don't fuck a man on the first date because he will ghost you" is terrible advice. And here is why.It’s interesting, I see so much discourse on how men here want a woman with a really low body count, but they also turn around and complain when a woman won’t immediately screw them. Have the cake and fuck it too, I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/23 04:57 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?I’m curious as to where you got that statistic. I’ve looked up a bunch about 40yr olds being pregnant and found these statistics. The miscarriage rate is 20% at 35 and 40% at 40. The stillbirth rate for women at 40 is 11-21/1000 (compared to 11-14/1000 from 35-39) The risk of chromosomal defects is 1/66 once you’re 40, and 1/100 for Down syndrome specifically. So like, 1-3% At 40 you have a 44% chance of getting pregnant within 1 year The statistics I found quoting 5% were these two: At 40 and o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 01:01 AM |
| 1 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?…..I don’t think I said anywhere that was the case. All I said is if someone is taking time off from their career to support and care for the family, or the house, then they should be compensated. The details of the compensation can be worked out in the prenup to scale depending on years taken off, income, etc, but a blanket ‘if she asks for the divorce because she no longer wants to be married, she gets nothing’ is short sighted and very exploitative. Pre nups are to protect BOTH partners. What… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/23 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?Average length of a marriage is 8 years. An 8 year break from a career is definitely gonna have negative impacts on a person. Maybe change it so if a marriage lasts under 1 year it’s less compensation, 2 years slightly more and so on and so forth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?Not really - a stay at home mum gives up her earning potential and financial independence in favour of providing child care and domestic services. This stops her from being able to build a career and retirement buffer. If a couple decides that 1 will work and 1 will be a home maker, they should either a) organise some kind of safety net for the homemaker should the marriage end or b) decide on a wage or allowance for the services rendered to give the homemaker financial independence and help the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 10:17 PM |
| 7 | Whats your opinion on pre-nups?That seems unfair - whether or not she wants to stay married, she still would’ve sacrificed her career in favour of his. She would’ve missed out on foundational years she would’ve needed to advance in her career, invest in her retirement, build up a savings. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 11:37 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?You misunderstand my point - so I’ll word it more clearly, with more context. It is not toxic to want to have kids when you and your partner are younger. There are undoubtedly many benefits to being a younger parent including things like bouncing back quicker. However it is extremely short sighted to say that it is a selfish or dumb decision to have kids when you’re older - if we’re talking aboht risk factors alone, there are a LOT of disadvantages to having a kid when you aren’t financially sec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/03/23 01:25 AM |
| 2 | Pretty privilege and admitting (acknowledging) the very LIKELY "truth" about how it affects dating resuluts.I mean I do not think looks are the only factor that matter in dating, but they are a factor and an important one. Studies show more attractive people get better treatment across the board. We literally pay people a fuckton of money to just ‘be pretty wear clothes’ that’s an entire industry. I am very far from RP, and I strongly believe that a good personality Is FAR more important than looks in a relationship (for casual dating and ONS being hot is probably more important but being average does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:20 AM |
| 9 | CMV: Being a strong independent woman is no big deal at all.I spent a couple years being the earner in mine and my fiancées relationship but I didn’t resent supporting him whole he looked for work. What I did resent was I was doing almost all the cleaning, cooking, and house maintenance stuff while also working and studying. I was not expecting him to do everything, just half. But we almost broke up due to his inability to contribute half. Now the tables are turned and he earns more than me. We both work full time. He does more of the cooking because I f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:15 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?I am not denying there are advantages to having a baby when you’re younger, I’m just saying people are gonna do what they’re gonna do. Starting a family is a choice people should make based on their personal circumstances. If you are a person who strongly believes in starting a family younger, then make sure your partner aligns with those values. Beyond that you cant control what other people do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:09 AM |
| 4 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?This is a super complex issue for a LOT of reasons. But here are the main two from my POV: Firstly: Bodily autonomy. Starting a family, carrying a child, that is a personal choice that a person should make based on their personal circumstances. Maybe a woman isn’t financially secure until she’s 40 - should she be not allowed to get pregnant because of risks of defects? That seems unfair. Its also not RESLLY enforceable. We have resources available on how to have a healthy pregnancy and child and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 08:07 AM |
| 18 | Discussion: do posters who unilaterally support women having children on their late thirties and 40s think only the woman's short term emotions matter?There is a higher risk for things like birth defects or complications in pregnancies over the age of 35 (technically a geriatric pregnancy according to medicine) but its still an extremely low risk Like, if you’re 25 your baby has a 1 in 1250 chance of having Down syndrome. If you’re 35 its 1 in 400. Those are still really friggin good odds. Anyway yes I think women shouldn’t have a baby until THEY want to. Its a gruelling, difficult , long process to be pregnant and then birth the child. If a w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/23 01:59 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are frustrated, and potentially giving up, because of wildly differing opinions from women on the core aspects of relationships.Interesting I didn’t say who started the hypothetical argument you however assumed it was more likely me. But maybe it wasn’t the clearest example so I’ll try again. To use a more RECENT example, and more relevant, if you look at comments where women discuss sexual harassment and men jump in to say ‘not all men’ they’re doing what I described - not wanting to understand another’s perspective. if I say I am uncomfortable with men due to repeated sexual harassment and assault therefore I don’t lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 03:54 PM |
| 3 | Scenario. Imagine you’re with your EX boyfriend, and your CURRENT boyfriend comes into your life at work or a social event etc. Now what do you do?This answer really depends. The ex before I dated my fiancée I was only with for 6 months. We liked each other well enough but we weren’t in love. If it was the first 5 months of that relationship I wouldn’t have noticed any other person. In the last month? I still would turn my fiancée down but the fact that part of me was curious would prompt me to break up with my ex. I know that for a fact because, the week I broke up with my ex a guy flirted with me when I was out with friends. I shut him d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 11:09 AM |
| 3 | Define undateableDeal breakers is a good question! 1: Personality Arrogant, self-centred, misogynistic/racist/homophobic/transphobic. Being a dick just for the sake of it. Unable to express emotions in a healthy way (I love emotions, tell me you’re mad! If you punch a wall I’m out tho). Lazy with house Maintenance (mess is ok filth is not). Manipulative. No sense of humour. No interest in learning. Hateful and/or spiteful. Machismo bullshit. Doesn’t know how to cook anything and refuses to learn (apply that to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 10:20 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are frustrated, and potentially giving up, because of wildly differing opinions from women on the core aspects of relationships.It depends on WHY the man isn’t seeing the woman’s POV. Firstly we can understand someone and still not agree. I understand why my brother doesn’t clean his room but I don’t agree with it. It’s fine it is what it is. It doesn’t affect me so who cares how clean his room is. Now, Using that same example, if my brother and I were arguing about cleaning and I explained why I clean my room and he just refused to listen or told me I was an idiot and didn’t WANT to understand…..that’s when it gets fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/03/23 09:30 AM |
| 2 | What do you do when 'Chad' starts flirting with you and you are in a relationship? How do you feel?Yup! They leave me alone if I get annoying enough. If I do it quick enough they never get as far as actually trying to pull shit. They just get sick of me and leave me alone. If they’re trying to hit on me like that they’re not someone who I’d want in my life. And I don’t care about their opinion of me. I actively want to change it so they leave me alone. So I become annoying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 09:03 PM |
| 3 | What do you do when 'Chad' starts flirting with you and you are in a relationship? How do you feel?I’ll entertain this hypothetical. Assuming I was attracted to chads I’d do the following: I mean I’d tell my fiancée, straight up. ‘Hey this guy is giving me vibes. Just FYI’ to which he wouldn’t care because he isn’t really a jealous guy and he knows I’m obsessed with him. Then I’d limit interaction with the guy. I’m a friendly person but not flirty vibes so much as joke vibes so I’d pare back the jokes and make the conversation only as needed (if we work together only discuss relevant work thi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/23 03:08 PM |
| 10 | The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex!Might be a geographical thing then. More attractive = more attention is a given where I’m from. It’s not always desirable or nice attention though. Definitely people can be gross and super inappropriate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 09:58 PM |
| 4 | The more attractive you are the easier time you'll have with the opposite sex!I dunno if I buy that. Based on my experience, my most attractive friends always got the most attention. I’m no slouch in the looks department, but I’m under no delusions that I’m on their level. They get a high amount of cold approaches, compliments, people sending them messages, people offering to buy them drinks… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/23 09:47 PM |
| 2 | “Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors?Editing because I found a much better way to explain what I meant (had to dig up my notes for this one) This meta-analysis —— Meta-analysis of associations between human brain volume and intelligence differences: How strong are they and what do they mean?". Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews ——- It found that brain size accounted for like, a 6-12% variance in individual intelligence and that cortical thickness explains 5%. Brain size can be a contributing factor to intelligence but it’s more u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 09:39 AM |
| 2 | What is the "ick" and what triggers it for you?Icks are like….little tiny behavioural things that turn you off. Like the episode of scrubs where JD dumps the girl who doesn’t laugh, just says ‘that’s so funny’. That was an ick. Icks that are signs of an actual compatibility issue behavioural problem/deficit are red flags. Icks can be red flags, but not always. I would get the ick from a man snapping to summon a waiter. But like, I’ve also gotten the ick because whenever this one guy kissed his eyes were half open half closed and it just made… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 06:38 AM |
| 7 | Thoughts on having kids without being married but making the woman stay loyal to you?Yeah I commented something similar but a traditional woman looking after the kids and home is left in the shithouse after divorce. Even in my country, stay at home mums are at a higher risk for homelessness after divorce due to the fact that her career making years were spent looking after the family, a decision the couple likely made together. A woman looking after the home is essentially a full time personal chef, personal assistant, housecleaner, and nanny for the family. Because of this the … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 04:41 AM |
| 8 | Thoughts on having kids without being married but making the woman stay loyal to you?If a woman is expected to stay home and care for the kids (sacrificing her own career and earning prospects) then the money paid through divorce (settlement, alimony, child support) is a way to sort of make up for the fact that her career/work life will unlikely be as successful as her ex husbands. Women who even take time off to have kids and come back see less career growth than men who have kids and stay working. While I understand men are concerned women will take ‘all the money’ in a divorc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 04:34 AM |
| 14 | “Women are emotional and men are logical” - how much of this is explained by biological factors?Ok so this is actually fascinating. There’s been a lot of research into how different male and female brains are. Animal brains are sometimes sexually dimorphic (different shapes/sizes determined by sex/gender) and for ages the same has been assumed of humans. The assumption of sexual dimorphism in human brains has also led to a lot of literature discussing how the brains act and think differently and how it is innate to our gender/sex. And there are some observed differences but it’s a question… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 04:03 AM |
| 5 | Are women really not able to love unconditionally?You’re gonna get as many individual answers as there are individual love stories. My truth is, as a woman, my love is unconditional but relationships are very conditional. I have a sister I don’t speak to much. We are entirely different people, we don’t get along. But in an emergency if she needed me I’d be there. I often say ‘I love her I don’t like her’ and that’s the truth. We disagree on everything, our personalities clash, but when she had covid and needed someone to watch my niece, I stepp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/23 02:48 AM |
| 2 | How does one make sure that a gf/wife sees him as a lover first, bf/husband second?I’ve been with my fiancé for like….a while, considering how young we are. (Both 26, met in high school dated 1 year, broke up for 2, now together 6 or so years.) He’s my best friend and biggest cheerleader. He’s the love of my life. I also am insanely attracted to him. But none of these things individually are more important than the others. And I wouldn’t want them to be. In fact, the qualities that make him such an excellent partner and friend make him more attractive to me. It’s different for… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/23 12:23 PM |
| 5 | Do women really want a man who opens up in a relationship?I’ve had emotionally closed off partners, my fiancée was quite emotionally closed off when our relationship started. I hated it. I feel so privileged and honoured when he opens up to me, especially with his history. I get so much joy in helping him. He’s not a typically masculine guy at all, btw. Not stereotypically I guess. But I love that he’s so comfortable being himself with me, I don’t see him as lesser at all. I actually find him very brave for opening up. I think the trick with ‘opening u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/23 03:53 AM |
| 3 | Sex is the most important aspect of a relationship.Not necessarily - I actually think the narrative of men being ALWAYS in the mood can be quite damaging sometimes. For reference, my fiancée and I have a very healthy sex life and we both equally enjoy sex. He is a fantastic partner and we find each other super attractive. But there have been times where, due to extenuating circumstances, he just wasn’t in the mood. When he tried antidepressants, his sex drive died entirely. I was 22, and an idiot, and because he had internalised a narrative of n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 05:01 AM |
| 3 | Biggest hypocrisies of PPDThankyou for responding - However I’m not convinced by that argument. I think while your argument does have a place it doesn’t invalidate what I see as a key inconsistency in RP rhetoric as it relates to casual sex with men and women and how it affects their dating prospects. I see the argument all the time when women complain about n-counts, the ‘shitty lock, master key’ thing so clearly there is some value placed on men being sexually desirable and having sex with lots of women. So to say it’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 04:09 AM |
| 0 | monkeypillI think posts like this are a little misleading because it assumes all people will act the same provided a/b/c happens, with no room for nuance or discussion. I think that, if the world was very different and every man had the opportunity to commit a crime like beastiality with no consequences, AND every man had interest in beastiality, sure maybe then most men would try it. But if I had the ability to teleport and turn invisible I would be a great bank robber. But I don’t have those things. Lik… | /r/AllPillDebate | 19/02/23 03:56 AM |
| 3 | Biggest hypocrisies of PPDI mean the biggest hypocrisy I find frustrating is this: 1: Women should not have lots of sex as it lowers their value. 2: Men want a lot of sex with women, and here are strategies to obtain lots of sex. Like, I don’t get it. If you truly believe sex with women lowers their value, you shouldn’t pursue casual sex with women because then you are lowering their value. If RP is about self improvement and creating a community for men to feel heard and understood, seems kinda weird that they are ok wi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/23 03:29 AM |
| 4 | How I imagine life as an attractive woman is likeThis is what I always find confusing - the girls on social media, TikTok, with the green smoothies and the matching workout sets, the ones who post about meditation and shit….they are fucking INSANE workers. The drive to look that good, all the time? The discipline? It costs a LOT of money and time to look that good, there’s a reason most average people can’t come close, a reason why some can turn it into an influencing career. I admire those girls and they SCARE the fuck out of me. They are dri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/23 02:23 PM |
| 2 | "Why a shortage of Mr Rights means single mothers hold the key to the falling birthrate"I don’t think it’s inherently selfish to not want kids. If you don’t want kids for whatever reason, chances are if you have them you’re gonna be a shitty parent and resent them. In which case the better choice is to not have kids so you don’t fuck them up. Not everyone finds joy and purpose in being a parent and thats fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/23 08:16 PM |
| 7 | CMV: lots of young attractive men find Salma Hayek, Halle Berry, Penelope Cruz, and Monica Bellucci extremely attractive and many would happily be in relationships with them.You’re right, you and OP aren’t celebrities. I am one though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/23 05:14 PM |
| 2 | The "We are a team" gaslightMy fiancée and I have a rule that an argument isnt ‘me versus him’ its ‘us versus the problem’. If one of us is not being a great partner…why is that? Its not for lack of love. If my fiancee starts dropping the ball the WHY is more important. If hes overwhelmed at work, then we need to renegotiate expectations for a while so he gets support but things still get done. And vice versa. Lately ive ‘dropped the ball’ on cooking my fair share due to late finishes at work and not getting home til 9pm. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/23 11:40 PM |
| 4 | How do men get one sided open relationships?Hahaha I knew a couple where one was allowed to sleep around and the other wasn’t. She was desperately in love with him and would do anything for him to stay so har agreed to let him sleep around. He said he was just too jealous for her to do the same, but that he also desperately needed to sleep around for the relationship to work. She had three very simple rules for him - don’t spend more time sleeping with other women than hanging out with me, use protection, don’t sleep with other women in o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 12:52 AM |
| 6 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingI kinda feel like your comment is falsely making the two equivalent when they are not. For one, a woman has a single body, her own. Sure she can charge people for access but she only has the one. Whereas landlords have multiple properties. Also a woman again only has one body that she inhabits, a body with thoughts and feelings and wants, whereas a landlord has multiple properties which are inanimate objects and di not have opinions on who gets to live in them. But that’s just my two cents! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 12:16 AM |
| 4 | Entitled sex starved men, sex is not a resource. It’s like asking women to let you eat them just because you’re starvingCool, lobby for sex work to become legal. Lobby for it to be a government service with checks and balances to minimise abuse of sex workers. I forget if it’s Sweden Norway or Finland, but disabled individuals get like….a free sex worker visit a month. Lobby for something like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/01/23 12:10 AM |
| 2 | Attraction is more subject than you thinkI think the thing about attraction is you can find someone attractive but not BE attracted to them. My fiancée’s (he’s a man, I’m a woman, we are both bi, popping that in now so it’s not confusing) top celebrity crush is Alison Brie. I think she’s attractive but I wouldn’t go there. He thinks Margot Robbie is gorgeous as well (who doesn’t) and she is gorgeous but to me it’s a purely aesthetic appreciation. I can recognise that Chris Hemsworth is objectively attractive but when it comes to actual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/23 08:44 AM |
| 3 | I was in charge of my penis at 18, and I handled it just fine.I think it’s a question of how you define ‘value’ I guess? I mean from my perspective anyway. I’ll be the first to argue against the annoying trope of ‘be grateful for x trauma it made you stronger!’ Because - no. I shouldn’t have had to become stronger. I was plenty strong how I was. Shitty things just happen and they shouldn’t. But I wouldn’t say that any of my baggage detracts from my overall ‘value’. It’s just a part of me, same as anything else. What I value about myself are things that exi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 06:33 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Women open themselves to more danger when being "nice" in rejection rather than being honestI mean…..if you’re calling them basic or generic ONLY because they reject you….yeah you’re petty and immature. A person rejecting you is not an insult. It’s simply that you two aren’t compatible. It can be INSULTING but it is not intended to damage or wound. Your words are lashing out to try and hurt people because they just aren’t interested. So my initial comment stands. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 11:10 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women open themselves to more danger when being "nice" in rejection rather than being honestYou said you’d call them basic or generic? EDIT: if you meant you’d think that, fine, but the way it was written led me to believe you would tell them that before moving on which seems petty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 09:47 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Women open themselves to more danger when being "nice" in rejection rather than being honestIf you thought she was generic or basic why would you even try with her? Seriously, there’s nothing wrong with not being attracted to someone. You don’t have to insult them for the simple fact that you are not their type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/22 09:18 PM |
| 5 | Has anyone actually met someone who had a very high body count and was a healthy, well balanced individual?Ok I’m asking all the following in good faith to try and understand your POV: 1: what is your definition of ‘a lot’ of sex? Is it relative? Like, say someone had 20 sexual partners in a year but since then has only had long term LTR’s? What about someone who had 120 sexual partners but 30 years? (So, 4 per year?) 2: what is your definition of unhealthy and unbalanced - does any mental health conditions automatically make someone unhealthy and unbalanced even if their treatment means that it does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 04:41 AM |
| 7 | Has anyone actually met someone who had a very high body count and was a healthy, well balanced individual?Your initial question feels like you don’t believe people can be health and balanced and have a lot of sex. So its strange to assume everyone who has casual sex is automatically not healthy or Balanced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 04:02 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever met a man that you instantly were sexually attracted toward ?Its almost like…..women aren’t a monolith, and there are many different types of women who react differently and feel and think differently…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 03:41 AM |
| 18 | Has anyone actually met someone who had a very high body count and was a healthy, well balanced individual?Yep. Multiple people. I’ve also met multiple people who were not healthy or well balanced with high body counts. I’ve met healthy and well balanced people with low counts, and unhealthy unbalanced people with low counts too. While a persons body count can be caused by mental health struggles, they aren’t always. Kinda feels strange to assume that a person whose had a lot of sex just HAS to be unwell in some respect. Maybe they just like sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/12/22 03:37 AM |
| 6 | Who are better in bed, genuine good guys or toxic guys?I have a sweet, lovely, kind fiancée and sex with him is honestly a religious experience. And I’ve had a fair amount of sex. What makes someone good at sex is investing in making it fun for BOTH people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/12/22 04:02 AM |
| 2 | Are some men naturally submissive in relationships? Are some women naturally dominant?It’s not black and white. Some people want to be dominant all the time, some want to be submissive all the time, some want to alternate depending on the context and some people want to be entirely ‘equal’ and never have a dominant/submissive partner. People aren’t inherently all one way or all the other most of the time. So much of who we are is based on our experiences, our decisions, and what we’ve been exposed to/how we were raised. People also change and evolve as they age. I think it’s easy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 12:36 AM |
| 5 | Are some men naturally submissive in relationships? Are some women naturally dominant?That’s not necessarily it….. I’m a very dominant person in some aspects, my fiancée is dominant in others. In some situations he definitely takes control, in others I do, in many situations we are equally ‘in charge’. Saying you don’t want a controlling jerk or don’t want a dominant man but you aren’t dominant either could simply mean you want a relationship without those dynamics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/12/22 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Being monogamous does not benefit a man in any way except oneMy fiancée is child free. For him, he said that because he wasn’t excited about the prospect of kids he shouldn’t have them. For him, kids have to be a HELL YES I WANT THEM not a ‘I guess maybe’ because kids require a lot of love and commitment and time and money and if you’re gonna invest that into something, you gotta be excited about it. I agree with him, kids shouldn’t be something you just ‘do’ because you can, it should be something you do because you’re passionate and excited about being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/22 12:49 AM |
| 0 | Women who refuse to date bi men:I dunno about that. I know several very gay men who tried experimenting with a woman once or twice because that was the done thing. They knew they didn’t like women, but all their gut friends talked about it so they tried it and it ended badly. One friend memorably recounts how he went immediately flaccid after touching a vagina and was like ‘ok yeah I’m definitely gay’. And as a bi woman, I had legit sex dreams about women but it wasn’t until I kissed one that I went ‘oh shit do I like girls as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 02:34 PM |
| 5 | Women who refuse to date bi men:ETÀ: forgot to clarify I agree with you entirely it doesn’t matter. Abd Honestly the biphobia that I see on this sub is staggering - ‘oh what if he leaves me for another man’ I mean he could probably also leave you for another woman too. My fiancée and I are both bi and reading crap like this really gets me pissed off. Sexuality is not an indicator of promiscuity or likelihood of infidelity and the idea of being grossed out by the fact that someone has twice as many options is weird. They liked … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 02:30 PM |
| 1 | JealousySo my fiancée isn’t a jealous person at all. It used to piss me off. I didn’t get it. Nothing would phase him. He never seemed to care. And I thought it meant he didn’t care about me. In truth, he was just so secure of my love for him he never worried. He knew I was obsessed with him. He knew I wouldn’t hurt him. Because he knew I loved him and he trusted me. When I realised that, when he explained it to me, I started to see it from his perspective. And I’m much the same. I still get pangs of je… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/11/22 12:54 PM |
| 5 | Why is male “insecurity” so demonized?I only really judge someone’s actions if they are destructive/hurt others. If you hurt yourself - that’s your choices. If you hurt others? I might judge you, sorry. Now we could always judge no one but we as a society are very judgey. Why would I judge illegal sex - I mean if the sex is rape or beastiality …..yeah imma judge probably. Consensual - see above. Are both people consenting? No? Gonna judge. Ethical - this more relates to not cheating or betraying a partner, but yeah! Imma judge peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 09:10 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?No only once 90% of the time. Like I said - I didn’t want any expectations. I definitely didn’t want anyone to get accidentally invested when I wasn’t looking for any romantic commitments (it can happen). I guess - the relationship that ended before I started my ONS phase, I felt very much like I was the more invested one. And it sucked. So I decided that until I was through with my drama, I didn’t want anyone to accidentally get the wrong idea. I’d rather be a spontaneous sudden memory than hav… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 03:27 PM |
| 1 | The bluepilled meme that "communication solves everything" is just a lazy catch-all phraseI’m a few days late but I’m popping in to say: True equality and a dominant-submissive relationship are not opposite ends of the spectrum. To be successful, both models require a lot of communication, respect, and trust. And I think they don’t have to exist alone - the two can both be present in the same relationship. My fiancée and I are both very headstrong and opinionated people who value our ability to disagree in a healthy way and approach problems as a team not opponents- us versus the pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 07:29 AM |
| 3 | The narrative around Pete Davidson's appeal is a great example societal gaslighting.Hey so why does BPD make you a bad person? BPD is an extremely difficult mental illness. When someone has BPD and chooses to not treat it or try and deal with their symptoms….they suck. But people with BPD don’t suck by default. Not by a long shot. The symptoms of BPD are absolutely debilitating and horrible to deal with on a day to day basis. I have a lot of admiration for people with BPD who do everything to try and make sure their illness doesn’t adversely affect other people or themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 05:34 AM |
| 4 | Why is male “insecurity” so demonized?I think preferences are fine, however shaming others for not sharing your preference is icky. And I think it’s also icky to have preferences that you don’t apply to yourself. Like - if you really want someone who gyms regularly, but you don’t, and you want it so bad it’s a dealbreaker…..well. Your lifestyles wouldn’t be compatible really and it seems pretty hypocritical to have a preference for others you don’t apply to yourself. So if a man (usually it’s men with this preference) tells me they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Men who leave women who make him wait but not other men previously, is not entitlement, and is more than reasonable for the man's own goals and desires.You’re gonna have to elaborate because unless you’re psychic I have no idea how you’d work this out from a short conversation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 02:58 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?I mean there’s waaaaay more reasons someone could say ‘no ons’ I mean a general, but certainly not exhaustive list would probably be They don’t like the idea of casual sex with a semi-stranger/safety concerns about sex with a semi-stranger they’re only looking for FWB’s they’re only looking for relationships (that could mean for religious reasons, like some of my catholic friends, or maybe they just prefer relationships they are tired of ONS They have any other personal reasons for not enjoying … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 02:41 AM |
| 2 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Hahaha well here’s the thing - my friends? My just finished high school friends? Who were at a catholic girls school? Funnily enough, not so much ONS people either. I think 2 had been in long term relationships? But I was an outlier. Not a rule in that group. So uh….not sure that every person with ‘no ONS’ has ‘had enough’ as you put it. Im not saying that doesn’t happen, but it’s not a guaranteed fact. Also sometimes all it takes is like, 1 or 2 hookups to make a person decide it’s not for them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/22 01:29 AM |
| 3 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Women: ‘here is a clear message of what we don’t want. Look! If you disagree we aren’t compatible Some men: nah she’s lying. Time to figure out her Insta and send her a dick pic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:10 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?…..Not those words but: ‘Not looking for anything serious’ has come up a lot in my city. Or ‘only here for the week, show me around!’ Or, the increasingly popular: ‘ENM, not looking for anything serious’. These are all examples from where I live. Hey, maybe those MILFs will be knocking down your door any second. Who knows. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:08 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Interesting. See, I was a ONS girl in the past. Quite a few of my friends weren’t (ex catholic girls school stuff). I didn’t have ‘no ONS’ but many of my friends did. Guess who got more skeezy guys? Yeah me. Way more men asking for my Snapchat and sending me dick pics. Way more men saying hi and then straight up asking me to come over. Way more men finding my Instagram through reverse google image search and dm-ing me there to….send dick pics and ask for sex. Sure this is entirely anecdotal, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:06 PM |
| 2 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Have those guys all slept with those women? Or is that just a belief they have? Did they lie about their intentions (saying they weren’t interested in ONS either) to get the date? Too much missing information. All the info you have in this post is anecdotal. The stuff you do know is many women who put no ‘ONS’ do it presumably to discourage men who only want ONS. Many men here believe that those women are the easiest. The rest is speculation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:01 PM |
| 1 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Because people will always lie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 10:58 PM |
| 10 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Oh definitely it’s not foolproof but nothing is I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:42 AM |
| 42 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Not all skeezy dudes but many skeezy men aren’t gonna bother because the effort of lying or trying to win her over is too much compared to someone whose bio says ‘only looking for casual’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:14 AM |
| 12 | What do you think about women who have "no ONS" written in their tinder bio?Because some people don’t want to have to waste time talking to dating options who aren’t looking for the same thing as them. If you lead every tinder convo with - “hey are you looking for something casual, serious, or a ONS?” It’s awkward. By telling guys who only want ONS to not bother with her profile, she’s eliminating time spent with people who aren’t compatible with her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/22 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Why being an amazing mother is not considered successful?Ok that makes sense. However your comparisons aren’t super linear. We were discussing womens role models in terms of choices women can make - be a mother? Be a career woman? Be an artist? Be a singer? Be a politician? Some of the examples you compared my statement too aren’t direct choices that are affected by role models or a diversity of role models. Men being drafted into war is not a choice men can make, it’s compulsory, and it IS unfair. It’s something that we should work to change when we … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 12:24 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Do you think most men are ugly? Do you think most women are attractive?Ok but you can see how only drawing female characters in highly sexual clothing and poses….is sexualising them, right? The definition of sexualisation is to assign sexual qualities to something, usually in relation to their gender. Like, your own examples - using sexy women to sell clothes - that’s still sexualisation? Sexualisation on its own doesn’t have to necessarily be a bad thing, but when it comes with a culture of ONLY valuing people for their sexual presentation/sexiness/sex appeal/what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/11/22 12:09 AM |
| 0 | neurodivergent men don’t have it harder than neurodivergent women - the struggles are simply different and this is largely a case of grass is greener-ismsOh definitely ND males have those same issues however I was just saying: Here is evidence to ND females being more often victims of sexual abuse or assault Here is why I think that might happen. I wasn’t trying to exclude ND men, I was just saying ‘oh you had a question here is my interpretation of an answer.’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 06:22 PM |
| 3 | Why being an amazing mother is not considered successful?I’m so confused - we were specifically talking about women here, I don’t know how men getting drafted got brought into it. Nor do I think female ceo role models is specifically implying that women who don’t achieve that success is bad? The point is having diverse role models is just a good thing. You asked for opinions and here is mine. You don’t have to agree, but making wild leaps of logic because you don’t like what I said is strange and honestly nonsensical. If you read my comment I said som… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 06:21 PM |
| 2 | What do you believe is the solution to the imbalanced dating scene situation?I misspoke - some men are ashamed of it I mean. I’ll edit and correct that! I think the societal pressure to have all those things and the comments when you DONT get those things is just making the situation worse. We don’t NEED that pressure and shaming people for not having romantic connections doesn’t help them find it. Shame isn’t a useful tool for that. Does nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 12:52 PM |
| 3 | What do you believe is the solution to the imbalanced dating scene situation?Oof my guy I had a moment of bad reading comprehension sure I’ll admit it….and I think it’s continuing because your argument makes no sense to me. I didn’t understand his comment was tongue in cheek and suddenly all women make it personal when they….don’t have an argument? Maybe I’m just slow because my meds are wearing off but what do you mean? I’m not understanding the purpose or point here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 12:49 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: Do you think most men are ugly? Do you think most women are attractive?Genuinely curious about your take on this. I’ve done some media studies courses at Uni, and several focussed on comic books and comic book movies. I did an entire research paper on early Wonder Woman comics and spent a lot of time immersing myself in comic book art. Most comic books, early ones, current ones, are written and drawn by men. The male superheroes in a lot of these comics are dressed and drawn very differently to the women. The women, by and large, have skimpier costumes and more sug… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Why being an amazing mother is not considered successful?I think it is fine to look up to amazing mothers as role models but it shouldn’t be our only female role model. The way the world is going, we are more free in certain society’s than ever before, people can make more choices than ever for themselves and their joy instead of fitting into moulds made by years of tradition. Women who choose to ‘break’ the traditional role of motherhood are held up because it’s still shamed pretty heavily in many places to not want kids/not want motherhood so offeri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 11:30 AM |
| 7 | What do you believe is the solution to the imbalanced dating scene situation?Ahhhh thanks for explaining! I think porn is a part of unrealistic ‘sexpectations’ but I think the solution isn’t just ‘no porn’. I actually think the solution is simpler than we think. Not easier, per se, simpler. I think we gotta stop shitting on each other. Like, genuinely. We gotta accept that people are more complex than we think and that gender/race/ethnicity/religions aren’t a monolith and shitty people exist everywhere but not EVERYONE is shitty because of that. Our problems aren’t gende… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 11:16 AM |
| 3 | What do you believe is the solution to the imbalanced dating scene situation?I think they mean ‘all men’ not just you. I think the dating issues are a problem of society being in flux. We’ve got the fact that more women than ever are choosing not to partake in traditional gender roles and feeling free to make choices for their benefit. But a lot of societal expectations that men and women still expect the other to adhere to they are a holdover from thousands of years of those gender roles. And the two ideas are butting heads in a really ugly way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 10:48 AM |
| 1 | neurodivergent men don’t have it harder than neurodivergent women - the struggles are simply different and this is largely a case of grass is greener-ismsNeurodivergence in women hasn’t been researched as much as men (leading to a lot of neurodivergent women going undiagnosed for decades, if not forever) so there’s not MUCH research yet, but preliminary studies are showing some concerning things. A French study conducted recently showed 9/10 autistic women surveyed had experienced sexual violence: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnbeh.2022.852203/full This study has a small pool to work from but it’s interesting nonetheless. This 201… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Men love to complain about women looking fake but consistently go for the fakest looking womenWhat about all the twilight mums thirsting over Robert Pattinson along with teenage girls? And the 20s-30s women doing the same? It’s easy to say ‘oh only LITTLE GIRLS’ like XYZ but that’s simply because the little girls are the loudest ones screaming. Harry styles isn’t a roided up man, but his concerts are packed to the brim with girls between 13-30. Maybe ‘roided men’ aren’t the only male beauty standard? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Do you think attraction is mostly looks?Depends on the person. I’ve said this before - my biggest celebrity crush is John Oliver, who looks like a muppet that became a human and just decided to make the best of it. I find my attraction is primarily based in personality (ETA: I’m not trying to sound pretentious or anything, this is just how my brain works! No judgement to those who feel a stronger looks based attraction, we’re all made different), I appreciate the aesthetic appeal of a person and can recognise they are objectively nice… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/22 12:50 AM |
| 4 | How much sex do women actually have?I mean I have a bunch of sex with my fiancée. But nah, genuinely? It varies so much. I’ve got a few friends who are gorgeous (one is a spicy dancer, another was a model in high school, another is just gorgeous for free) and they’ve had maybe 20 different sexual partners between the 3 of them, and 7 of those were long term relationships. One of my other friends was a virgin til she was 20 and in the last 5 years she has had 25 sexual partners or so- a smattering of ONS, FWB’s, and 1 or 2 relation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 05:01 PM |
| 1 | Online Dating is so rigged against men in 2022 that I am contemplating gaymaxxing. The asking price for women is too high. There are lots of conventionally attractive gay/bi guys out there who have hit me up on Grindr.I could reiterate the old idea that women aren’t a monolith and the idea that the entire gender group are somehow evil and out to get men is short sighted but I feel like you wouldn’t accept that as a possibility. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/22 04:38 PM |
| 2 | Online Dating is so rigged against men in 2022 that I am contemplating gaymaxxing. The asking price for women is too high. There are lots of conventionally attractive gay/bi guys out there who have hit me up on Grindr.I showed this to my fiancée and his first reaction was ‘my eyes. Are they bleeding? I feel like they should be bleeding.’ | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/22 03:43 PM |
| 1 | Online Dating is so rigged against men in 2022 that I am contemplating gaymaxxing. The asking price for women is too high. There are lots of conventionally attractive gay/bi guys out there who have hit me up on Grindr.? I didn’t mention wealth? I’m just saying if the women you were sleeping with picked up at all on the fact that you don’t seem to actually like women as people (I say this based on the vile stuff you said) chances are they’d be pretty skeeved out. I dunno what to tell you here. You clearly despise women. You don’t seem to regard them with any respect at all. Your resentment might be sabotaging you in the long run. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/22 03:35 PM |
| 3 | Why are so many women unashamed of being overweight in OLD?My good sir, my guy, gentleman, imma try and make this simple as possible: Hormonal birth control does several things - the primary function is to obviously stop a person from getting pregnant. A secondary function is to drive people on hormonal BC fucking nuts. Some hormonal BC has been linked to increased insulin resistance (which oh yeah, doesn’t help with weight gain) severe mood swings, fluid retention, loss of sleep, gain in stress, one study even showed women on a high hormonal dose in th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 03:31 PM |
| 3 | Online Dating is so rigged against men in 2022 that I am contemplating gaymaxxing. The asking price for women is too high. There are lots of conventionally attractive gay/bi guys out there who have hit me up on Grindr.I genuinely thought i was lucid dreaming when I started reading this post and then was disappointed when I realised - no, I’m awake, and this is real. | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/22 10:15 AM |
| 1 | Online Dating is so rigged against men in 2022 that I am contemplating gaymaxxing. The asking price for women is too high. There are lots of conventionally attractive gay/bi guys out there who have hit me up on Grindr.I don’t know where to begin, but my guy, um, if you think men are hot, and you would fuck one, and enjoy it, I’m not sure if you’re completely straight. Which is fine! Your misogyny however is not cute, and is probably you’re not having much luck with women. Just a thought | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/22 10:14 AM |
| 7 | Why are so many women unashamed of being overweight in OLD?Oh of course you did! However I’m curious as to why you don’t see how thinking fat people should be shamed into being thinner doesn’t encourage hateful rhetoric. Just being like ‘I’m only shaming you for your own good’ doesn’t exclude the fact that shaming people for weight and tying weight as a whole to an idea of health or perfection can lead to eating disorders. Encouraging people to think about their body in a negative way to just be ‘thin’ doesn’t encourage a healthy mindset or healthy habi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Why do you all care so much about your looks when men literally have been known to fuck donkeys and shit?Real life woman here! I was focussed on looks, and it used to be in an unhealthy way. As a child, i was taught that the worst thing a girl could be was ugly. I wasn’t taught this explicitly, but by seeing characters on TV, in books, in movies, valuing a woman’s appearance first, and by seeing women who didn’t fit the standard being degraded (in tabloid magazines etc) I learned to fear being ugly. So as a teen and up until I was 24, my mission was to be beautiful. I wanted people to recognise my … | /r/AllPillDebate | 07/11/22 06:19 AM |
| 5 | Why are so many women unashamed of being overweight in OLD?My guy…..I didn’t gain the weight til I started birth control……And then to lose the weight, eating better and less didn’t work, exercising didn’t work, combining the two didn’t work, I legit had to essentially starve to lose it? 1 meal a day, and a protein bar. That’s what got rid of the weight. Is that the option you suggest? I don’t know if that’s sustainable. My hair started thinning. My nails cracked. Do you know how dangerous eating disorders are? Many birth controls have ridiculous lists o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 04:56 AM |
| 6 | Q4M: Is there anything you like about women?You know I came on this thread fairly ready to be disappointed and found a fairly balanced take. This is something I think there should be more of - an acceptance that women are people and people can be good or bad or in between. Same as men. Same as anyone. Thankyou so much my guy, I wasn’t expecting to smile while reading PPD today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 03:47 AM |
| 1 | A lot of guys here confuse "Chad" for "The guy who's peaking in life right now with no future plans"The truth is people aren’t a monolith and find different things attractive - there are broad categories that MANY people find attractive, but everyone has their own yucks and yums. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/22 02:28 AM |
| 13 | Why are so many women unashamed of being overweight in OLD?Exactly!!!!!! I lost a bunch of weight when I started my ADHD meds, and I was objectively MUCH more unhealthy than I was when I was bigger. When I was overweight, I worked out, ate well, was active. But I was still overweight (birth control weight is hard to shift). I started my meds and lost my appetite so much I was barely eating and didn’t even realise it until my hair started thinning a little (I have a LOT of hair and caught it in time so it didn’t become a big issue thank goodness, I like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 11:43 PM |
| 18 | Why are so many women unashamed of being overweight in OLD?Due to my birth control, for about 5 years I was fairly overweight and I felt fucking terrible about it. I tried everything - I exercised like crazy, changed my eating habits, I started starving myself to try and slim down and nothing worked. I put on 12kg in about 3 months, and I’m 5”2-5”3. I’m already built strong, I have wide hips and shit, so when I put on weight it is obvious. I was deeply, deeply ashamed of my body. I couldn’t look in the mirror. I started showering with the lights off. I … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 10:47 PM |
| 3 | Ladies, what do you actually mean when you request a guy to be a gentleman during a date?I think you’re misunderstanding me. Which is totally fine, I didn’t add all my reasons into my comment, didn’t want to make it an essay. I don’t mind being disagreed with (depending on the topic - if people are saying they think women don’t deserve rights I’ll disagree, but I’m not gonna lose sleep because someone considers Zack Snyder a creative genius) And I don’t consider it a transgressions. Because you happily pay for dates, you might not get my P.O.V, but I used to not mind being paid for … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 01:19 PM |
| 6 | Ladies, what do you actually mean when you request a guy to be a gentleman during a date?Hahaha I’m so confused by this. Where did I say I go out to eat on the first date? I offered several examples of respecting my no, ranging from drinks, to bill splitting, to not badgering me for sex…..and you got that I go out to eat on first dates? I work at a lingerie store part time and live in essentially a granny flat with my fiancée to save up for a house but sure I guess I have a lot of money when compared to like, a homeless person. What even was the point of your comment? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 10:30 AM |
| 2 | The biggest predictor of what a woman is attracted to in a man is how rare that quality is in her lifeI think types are tricky because people often have a defined physical ‘type’ but will often date outside it when a person really appeals to them on an emotional level. Or maybe they’re types aren’t clearly defined - I have a friend who really loves blonde men. She’s always dated blondes. But the blondes have been short, tall, muscled, not muscled. They’ve all looked very different but all been blonde. My fiancée has slept with bigger women and smaller women, model-esque types and more average gi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 06:46 AM |
| 15 | Ladies, what do you actually mean when you request a guy to be a gentleman during a date?Ehhhhh for me, I don’t like to say ‘be a gentleman’ because it comes with a lot of really traditional expectations I personally do not subscribe to. BUT. If I got to describe my own idea of a ‘gentleman’ I’d mean this: 1: be polite and respectful (to me, to waitstaff/bartenders, etc) 2: My no’s mean no’s so listen to them (if I say ‘no let me pay half’ that is not an invitation to secretly pay or make a show of paying, that means ‘let me pay my damn share’. If I say ‘no thanks’ to a drink that d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 06:10 AM |
| 5 | From male perspective, women are not the more empathic gender.I think this isn’t an issue of ‘which is more empathetic’ so much as an issue of perspective. From a male perspective, many men do not feel seen and heard by women when discussing their struggles. From a female perspective, many women do not feel seen or heard by men when discussing their struggles. And both sides have their own experiences/trauma/issues that men we are going to look at the opposite side more negatively. Both sides are guilty of minimising the issues, or making fun of the issues… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/22 05:49 AM |
| 2 | Do women care about a man’s sexual past?It depends, like everything else. Standards don’t always exist in a vacuum, there’s a lot of context to consider. If a man is a virgin/low n-count it’s not a factor unless they’re very bitter about it. And I mean, blaming all women bitter. But even then, it’s not the n-count that is a turn off, but how they’ve responded to it. If he’s low n-count or a virgin for religious reasons….well, that makes us incompatible because I’m not religious. Maybe he’s a low n-count or a virgin due to trauma. That… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 05:19 AM |
| 2 | What do women gain from having relationships with red-pilled men vs. blue-pilled men?I don’t think such a ‘good reasonable’ society can exist. It would require every person to not act in their own self interest. If there are no rules against speeding, more people will speed, and more people will die. If there are no rules regulating crime, we’re gonna see a lot more crime. I don’t agree with your premise that women are naturally subordinate only made equal by oppression. But even without that, I think it’s honestly illogical to assume the world would be better without rules - ru… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/11/22 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Maybe men really are meant to spread their seed? Ever considered it?I mean it reaches the same end without the risk of STI’s/tanking a relationship/hurting people. So if the point of having lots of sex is to further the bloodline, but the consequence of that is losing yojr social standing, your relationship (if you have one), the respect of friends/families/peers, donating sperm is the BEST option. And if the point is ‘furthering the bloodline’ and that alone, you’d have to have sex with women who actively want to get pregnant, and then possibly be on the hook f… | /r/AllPillDebate | 06/11/22 05:05 AM |
| 1 | Maybe men really are meant to spread their seed? Ever considered it?I dunno…..I get that in ye olden says the best way to continue the ‘bloodline’ was fucking lots of random women but these days, can’t you just donate sperm and cancel out the need for cheating/having lots of sex? And before anyone says ‘well to donate sperm you gotta be a SUPER HIGH SPECIMEN for them to consider you’ - sure. But by RP’s own argument, men have to be a super valuable specimen to have a lot of sex. | /r/AllPillDebate | 05/11/22 10:27 AM |
| 2 | What do women gain from having relationships with red-pilled men vs. blue-pilled men?See you’re still being a little contradictory in my eyes - you’re telling me we don’t need so many rules as I think as long as people are reasonable, but at the same time, that we do have those rules because people aren’t reasonable. I think it’s fairly well documented that without ‘rules’ people are gonna do the bad thing. Sharing your exes nudes on the internet is a pretty fucked up thing to do, and it happened so much we needed to create rules against it so people wouldn’t do it. What is your… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:15 AM |
| 3 | What do women gain from having relationships with red-pilled men vs. blue-pilled men?Hmmm it’s still not clear to me. Perhaps could you be clearer? You’re saying the situation that makes men good leaders, but not WHAT makes them good leaders. So what makes a good leader to you? Like, let’s say i give you two leaders: One person leads by giving step by step instructions, detail oriented. They’re quite patient. They do their best problem solving long term. Then you’ve got a leader who makes snap decisions, works best in emergencies. Gut instinct, good at damage control. Who would … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/22 08:08 AM |
| 7 | What do women gain from having relationships with red-pilled men vs. blue-pilled men?What fitting qualities would he have by virtue of being a man? This is a serious and genuine question. My fiancée and I both have excellent leadership skills but very different ones. I’m curious as to how his skills match up to what you think a man’s innate leadership skills are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/22 04:38 AM |
| 3 | Women have a hypocritical bias against homosexual male behaviorI wasn’t trying to argue that women don’t have terrible reactions to mens sexuality - I even added an edit saying I wasn’t saying womens experiences were worse at all. I was just expanding on this idea that men just ‘accept’ womens bisexuality when they don’t unless it’s performed for their enjoyment. I agree that there is a culture of bias against bisexual men. I never said there wasn’t. I certainly don’t think ALL women are biphobic but I accept that many are. I was just adding more context to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/22 03:38 AM |
| 8 | Women have a hypocritical bias against homosexual male behaviorAs a bi woman who has told men I’m bi - their acceptance is conditional because they’re only excited/accepting because they find it hot. I’ve told men I’m bi and most of the time they’re first reaction would be like ‘so you like women? That’s hot/ so threesome?’ I would agree that there is less acceptance for bi men and it sucks, but queer womens acceptance from straight men relies on them sexualising our sexuality….seeing it as something for them. A man getting excited when a girl makes out wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/22 02:27 AM |
| 7 | Why do women care so much if men care about their age or previous sexual behavior?Oh cool you’ve talked to all women???? Amazing! Like, last time the women council met we actually couldn’t come to a consensus on height but like, if you’ve heard differently lemme know so I can tell all my girlfriends to raise their standards! /S But seriously - I try and think of it like this…..it’s annoying when people find something attractive and you don’t fit that standard, sure. But the issue is kinda that people can be downright horrible to those who don’t fit that standard. I have a lit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 11:16 PM |
| 9 | What can we learn from Tom Brady’s impending divorce from Gisele?I mean….Giselle did give up modelling for her family? She legit stopped modelling to focus on her family. She was a Vs Angel. Did 1200 magazine covers. She’s worth double what Brady is. She earned 500 MILLION dollars between 2002-2017, she was the highest paid model in the world. She was a number one supermodel and she retired to focus on her family when she could’ve kept going. Whether or not she necessarily needed go from a practical sense (she’s rich, Nannie’s exist) it’s great she decided to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/22 10:59 PM |
| 1 | q4w: Why does it appear that Western women dont want to start families? Do they prefer just to be on the cc indefinitely?Oh 100%! My dad, after i looked after my niece, asked me if I finally understood the phrase ‘it takes a village’. I don’t know how people don’t raise kids in groups. Honestly governments need to provide free parenting classes beforehand, childcare, better access to healthcare (including mental health for the mothers especially) and that would make the burden smaller…..but even then…. Like, babies see their mothers as an extension of themselves for the first 4-6months? (I might have that wrong it… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/22 10:13 PM |
| 1 | q4w: Why does it appear that Western women dont want to start families? Do they prefer just to be on the cc indefinitely?I know right I’d be terrible. I’d be a terrible parent but I’m gonna be a fantastic aunt I’ve decided. | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/22 10:08 PM |
| 10 | q4w: Why does it appear that Western women dont want to start families? Do they prefer just to be on the cc indefinitely?As a woman who doesn’t want children or like a ‘family’ in the traditional sense, here’s why in order: I knew from the age of 12 I didn’t want to have kids. At all. Don’t get me wrong I love children (fucking funny little things that they are) but I could never see myself with my own. I never knew why but now that I’m 25 I can put words to it in a way I never could before. Babies and kids are a fuckton of work. I never could imagine how much work until I helped looked after my niece who is under… | /r/AllPillDebate | 02/10/22 03:08 PM |
| 10 | Weird ass question, but why don’t women like to be treated like objects???? Objectifying isn’t taking care of someone it’s literally seeing them as an object, not human. If my favourite coat breaks yeah I’m sad and it sucks but if an actual homeless person is suffering that’s a hell of a lot more tragic and if it is in my power to do something I will because they are a human being??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 03:10 PM |
| 17 | Weird ass question, but why don’t women like to be treated like objects?Valuing objects more than people and treating people like objects are not the same thing though. My favourite coat - as much as I love and value it - does not have thoughts, feelings, or a perspective. It is a coat. It was once wool on a sheeps back and now it’s something I pull out for winter. To treat someone as an object is to ignore that they themselves are a person and have the power of thoughts, feelings, etc. I certainly value some objects more than random people, but I wouldn’t treat peo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 12:27 PM |
| 1 | Which Would You PickYour first comment said you hadn’t met a woman capable of loving like you and now you say you don’t need someone to love like you? I’m a little confused | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/22 07:50 AM |
| 16 | Which Would You PickI disagree, but I’ll tell you why. The way I see it, that’s not sustainable. If you want someone to put your well-being first forever unconditionally, I assume you gotta do the same for them. And if you want to put their well-being above yours, you wouldn’t let them put their welbeing above you. Love isn’t sacrifice so much as compromise. It’s being willing to meet in the middle, to give up the things you can…..but more than that, it’s not asking to give up more than you know is possible. My par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 01:26 PM |
| 9 | Which Would You PickWhat do you call love? What is it to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/22 01:04 PM |
| 1 | Are you turned off (or made jealous by) men watching porn?Hard agree on this - my current partner watches porn and I do not care, because we spend far more time taking care of each other than we do ourselves. I’ve seen his porn, he’s seen my erotica, and honestly his tastes are pretty mellow and chill so I have no issues there. An ex of mine however loved porn so much he genuinely couldn’t finish without it. As someone who prides themselves on their enthusiasm and skill, as a woman who has had (quite frankly) rave reviews in the past….it was pretty fuc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/22 12:13 PM |
| 6 | Do you think it’s hypocritical for women’s pro wrestlers or female athletes in general wanting to be taken seriously as athletes yet they post sexy pics on social media?Maybe she just likes how she looks and is confident? She doesn’t have to make profit, it could be she just puts work into her looks and feels good about herself so she shows her body off on Instagram but remains professional and competent at work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:46 PM |
| 5 | Do you think it’s hypocritical for women’s pro wrestlers or female athletes in general wanting to be taken seriously as athletes yet they post sexy pics on social media?So if you had a really great doctor, top of her field, but she also posted the occasional bikini pic on Instagram…..you’d think she was taking the easy way out? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:36 PM |
| 11 | Do you think it’s hypocritical for women’s pro wrestlers or female athletes in general wanting to be taken seriously as athletes yet they post sexy pics on social media?I think this issue is we automatically assume people who sexualise themselves can’t be taken seriously/don’t want to be taken seriously. If someone loves how they look, and post sexy photos….does that make them any less skilled in their career or field? If a gymnast wins a gold medal, but also posts bikini pics, does that make her less competitive as an opponent? Womens sport is a professional environment and a serious commitment so it’s fine for the participants to want to opt out of sexualisin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 08:18 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: Would you be mad if a man you liked a lot made you wait for sex?I mean if you already have such different views on sex, you’re not compatibile. For me, sex is an important component of intimacy. I enjoy feeling good and making my partner feel good. If when we dated, they decided they didn’t want sex until marriage…..it already shows that our understanding of what we want is too different to work long term. Let’s say the average person will be married within 3-5 years of meeting their partner. If I’ve only known a guy 3 months, I don’t know too much about him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/09/22 02:45 AM |
| 6 | There is now way to flirt without sounding crigneI saw a reddit comment once that said flirting was all about plausible deniability. Straddling the line a little. Doing things that you can just laugh off if the other person doesn’t reciprocate. The secret is to match what the other person is doing in energy and see if the intensity ramps up or if they back off. I never saw it the same way. It’s perfectly described - little touches, small glances, joking a little too much, and seeing if the other person picks up what you’re putting down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 04:09 PM |
| 5 | CMV : You can only be attracted and aroused to biological aspects of a human being, not abstract qualities such as wealth and careerThis is embarrassing to admit but I almost agreed with you. I was ready to, but then I remembered I can’t agree with you because I am down bad for John Oliver. Genuinely I don’t know how this happened but his brain does things to me on like, a primal level. I will say, I’m bisexual and my preference is women in general. But even with women, I have never once looked at a hot person and just felt immediately aroused. It’s more like an aesthetic appreciation? With any hot person, if I see them, I w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/22 10:38 AM |
| 1 | What is a "bad personality," and how do women automatically know you have one before you even talk to them?Sometimes the smallest thing is a red flag. If he’s gonna ignore what I want now I have no guarantee he’ll respect what I want later | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 05:34 PM |
| 3 | What is a "bad personality," and how do women automatically know you have one before you even talk to them?Jumping off this to say it’s also small things you do in the initial conversation. I’ve had this before, where I’m having a fun chat with a guy, and he goes to get a drink and offers me one, and I say no thanks or just water and he still….returns with a random drink? Usually they either: 1: get offended when I don’t drink it because he spent money 2: gets offended because he thinks I’m implying he’s a predator Or 3: tries to gently nudge me into taking the drink (A rare 4: I reiterate that I app… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/22 05:12 PM |
| 3 | How much of a deal breaker is yelling/shouting to you? Do you think it's abusive behavior?That is an excellent strategy and I’m really happy you are able and willing to work around your temper to make sure you don’t adversely affect others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 03:37 PM |
| 4 | How much of a deal breaker is yelling/shouting to you? Do you think it's abusive behavior?Exactly! My partner and I had it normalised so we decided to reject it so as not to hurt each other. ETA: it was normalised for us and it did affect us all at once and we had to make conscious choices to unlearn the behaviour | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 03:05 PM |
| 3 | How much of a deal breaker is yelling/shouting to you? Do you think it's abusive behavior?Ah fair enough. I get it. Some people accept some people reject. The nuance in the world is insane. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Can women be selfish in terms of building up their partners‘ charachters?No worries! Glad to be of some help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:28 PM |
| 6 | How much of a deal breaker is yelling/shouting to you? Do you think it's abusive behavior?I mean it depends on the person. My partner was in an abusive environment and it made him VERY conflict averse. He hates fighting and fights in general. He used to never tell me when things bothered him because he was afraid it would start a fight….which would lead to him eventually blowing up and us having a fight. My household wasn’t abusive per se, but my parents didn’t have great emotional regulation. Which meant I often got yelled at for things that objectively weren’t a big deal. I hate be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:27 PM |
| 22 | How much of a deal breaker is yelling/shouting to you? Do you think it's abusive behavior?I consider it toxic behaviour. So my partner and I both grew up in households with parents who yelled and it means the only arguments we saw modelled as kids were those ones. We had to learn healthy conflict resolution the hard way. We also both have terrible volume control so yelling happens accidentally but the difference is how we react to it. My partner and I both hate yelling so if one of us slips up and shouts, the other calls for a break and we go into different rooms and have water or wa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:17 PM |
| 3 | Can women be selfish in terms of building up their partners‘ charachters?Thanks! Lists are so important. I have RAMPANT ADHD And my notes apps are full of pages labelled by friends and family names and things I know they like and things they’ve mentioned, important dates (birthdays, anniversaries, or days that are tough for them because of grief) so I can refer back to it and schedule shit in my calendar. I always say, if I, the person who forgets to wear socks, can make a list and write in a calendar….most people can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:11 PM |
| 4 | Can women be selfish in terms of building up their partners‘ charachters?I never said they didn’t isolate men? I even added a sentence where I said both people can do both these things? I specifically said men and women can manifest their insecurity internally and externally? Just that in my experience this is what I’d noticed being more tied to a certain gender? I also said this was based off of my experiences and perspective. I’m happy to hear a different perspective! You obviously have had very different experiences. However don’t put words into my mouth if possib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:08 PM |
| 16 | What's some good advice for a girl in her first relationship?1: When you have an issue - talk about it. Foster healthy communication EARLY. If you’re having an argument, don’t say ‘you don’t respect me!’ Say ‘when you do this thing, I feel disrespected’. Also don’t resort to name calling. And in a fight, even if it feels good, NEVER say something just to get a reaction. Never use your words to hurt. If you wouldn’t say it outside of an argument, don’t say it inside of one. Remember that the two of you are a team. There isn’t a winner when you fight. There… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 01:06 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Why women don't like when their male friends are attracted to her?That’s not what I said at all? People can make their choices, all I said was to ME when it happened it felt like my friend didn’t value me as a friend. I’ve never resented guys withdrawing from the friendship because they had feelings. However it still sucked on my end to lose a friend, and it made me feel like my friendship was less valuable to them then it was to me. I’m allowed to have those feelings. Especially if I’m not making it his problem. I never went crying to those friends about thos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:54 PM |
| 3 | Can women be selfish in terms of building up their partners‘ charachters?Hi! I’m glad my response is helpful! 1: Why I said cheating is based in insecurity So not ALL cheating is based in insecurity, some is based in selfishness, other cheating is based in self destructive behaviour…. When I was cheated on, his reason was insecurity. He felt insecure about his attractiveness so when he got that attention it was so validating he just took the opportunity. He felt insecure in the relationship but didn’t know how to talk about it so he decided to sabotage it instead. Sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 12:52 PM |
| 2 | [Q4W] Why women don't like when their male friends are attracted to her?I mean obviously you can make your own choices, but if I’ve had a friend for over a year, and we have a deep friendship and I trust them, and then they drop the friendship because I won’t go out with them…. To me it feels like our friendship was less valuable than the possibility of romance and it sucks. In my experience, I’ve had friends who clearly valued the friendship so yeah they took some time away from being my friend to move past me but then they still wanted to be my friend because we w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 11:05 AM |
| 15 | Can women be selfish in terms of building up their partners‘ charachters?Hey! So professional woman here, I’m gonna address your comment in parts: Part One: not wanting an insecure partner You are right that mens insecurity and womens jnsecurity is often viewed differently by society. However part of the reason it’s viewed differently is how we express it. For example, I was a very insecure and anxious person. It did affect my partner but most of my struggle was internal and didn’t hurt him. He was sad to see my confidence be low but my actions were tiring, not hurtf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 10:58 AM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Why women don't like when their male friends are attracted to her?No worries! Thanks for seeing my perspective! I don’t speak for all women obviously but in my experience and what I’ve talked about with women before, our frustration is like….part guilt at possibly hurting someone we care about, part frustration and anger if they react badly, and part sadness because quite often we’ve lost people we cared about because we didn’t like them back. I’ve always been entirely surprised when a friend expressed attraction to me. I tend to take people at their word so i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 09:59 AM |
| 3 | [Q4W] Why women don't like when their male friends are attracted to her?I dunno it depends. I’ve had friends who I’ve turned down and they’ve continued to have a fulfilling friendship with me. They took time to process their feelings but they valued my friendship and we continued that friendship afterwards. I’ve also had friends who stopped being friends with me the second I turned them down, because to them our friendship was secondary to their romantic feelings towards me. When women express annoyance at their male friends wanting to fuck them, it’s because it rec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 09:38 AM |
| 3 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.I wanna piggyback off of this with my own top from when I was dating around: don’t date men who ignore a ‘no’. You alone get to decide what you do with your body and your health (insofar as it doesn’t cause harm to others). If you’re on a date and you say you’re done drinking but your date ignores that and buys you another drink? That’s them ignoring your no. If a person asks for nudes and tries to convince you to send them once you’ve said you won’t? They’re ignoring your ‘no’. When it comes to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 08:55 AM |
| 4 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.I’ve noticed this a lot too - I won’t deny some people who are abusers present the stereotypical way, but a lot of research suggests many abusers make their partner feel ‘comfortable’ first before upping their abuse over time once their partner is in a place where they don’t feel they can easily leave. If all abusers punched their spouses in the face 1 week in, you wouldn’t hear so many stories of people struggling to leave. Many abusers wait till they think we are comfortable before the mask sl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 08:39 AM |
| 1 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.So I actually said that exact thing ‘some are just good liars’. I never claimed most were. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 08:32 AM |
| 1 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.I have a couple issues with your comment, but I think you misunderstood me so I’m going to clarify it for you :) My comment was meant to illustrate that there’s no sure way of just being able to tell if a guy will hurt you or not. There are definitely red flags that you can look out for, but not all people who hurt you walk up with a sign illustrating it. My comment was meant to illustrate that I dated a guy who, on paper, would not hurt me….and yet when it came down to it, he did any way, and I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 08:31 AM |
| 1 | Q4W- How long have most of you known your male friends?My best group of guy friends, the ones I’ve known for 10 years, have not once tried to cross a boundary. I met them in high school when my now partner had a crush on me so I think I’m some way shape or form I’ve always been a little off limits which has probably helped a bunch with that. I will say that my partner and I have a fairly ‘open’ relationship and even though these men know this they’ve never done anything beyond complimenting how I look. So I am very confident that even if any of them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/09/22 06:50 AM |
| 9 | What is the worst thing about being a woman?Ooooof oof oof good question. So much about the experience really is terrible for me. For one - periods are the obvious one. All the women in my immediate family have problems with menstruation. My mum suffered terribly each month until she had kids, my sisters have PCOS and Endometriosis and 1 had real problems conceiving….my periods are wildly irregular, stupidly heavy, and extremely Painful. Mind you I just have to take a Panadol and keep functioning because that’s how it is. No doctor yet ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/22 05:37 AM |
| 25 | Many men like to talk about how women end up in abusive relationships because they "pick the wrong men". So let's hear it, how would YOU pick the right man if you were a woman.I dunno my guy, everyone in my life (men and women) loved my first boyfriend. They told me it was clear he adored me. My workmates said he seemed lovely. He still assaulted me anyway. He didn’t drink much, stayed home a lot, asked me questions and seemed to listen. He seemed like the loveliest guy. Some people are just good liars. ETA: I was 17 at the time and at 25 I like to think I’m better at spotting fakes, but I’m not perfect. I’ve thought male friends were lovely and been proven wrong so c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/22 06:38 AM |
| 1 | As a man, I am fed up with RP trying to hijack the definition of masculinityBy attaching subjective preferences to an ideal of manliness and calling it a FACT you end up excluding everyone who doesn’t share that preference from being ‘manly’. It’s just a dick move really - everyone says a core belief of RP is self improvement but why are we defining self improvement by one set of standards? One guy might be at their happiest and not fit the RP definition of manliness, does that mean the guy isn’t a man? Does he now not count? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/22 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Are men a lot more emotional than they would like to believe?I rate this take. The past dictates the present and historically the qualities that would make a woman a good nurturer were prized, whereas the qualities that made a man a good provider were prized and this still can be felt today. It’s 2022 and I’ve seen fathers tell their crying sons ‘c’mon mate, crying is silly/boys don’t cry’ and like, kids are too young to understand the societal reasons behind this and that their emotions are acceptable. They learn that their sadness isn’t palatable and so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/09/22 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenThis is why communication in sec is important. People should be able to ask and say yes or no easily | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenActually yeah? I type pretty much exactly Like I talk. If I’m replying from my room I’m always way more casual and weirdly enough if I’m on public I get super formal. ETA: no idea why. I even add in filler words when I type :) ETA: this is also why I have so many edits because instead of actually THINKING about what I’m typing I just word vomit a reply and then come back later to add extra shit on top. ETA: I guess you could even say I’m fairly authentic in how I present myself online and in rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:13 PM |
| 1 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenOof oof oof no. I’ve had men use porn shit on me. It was unfun. Think about free porn - it’s usually like, the woman goes down on the man, cut to them fucking in a few positions with maaaaaybe some preamble of him like, spreading her and slapping(? Why do they SLAP IT) her clit, cut to him finishing. You rarely see any foreplay, any warm up, any seduction. Women aren’t constantly cumming in porn scenes so it sets up unrealistic expectations for people (what do you MEAN you don’t cum from PinV al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:04 PM |
| 2 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenAustralian here and I still remember the man who danced around my vagina like he was scared of it. Genuinely did not put a hand directly on it the whole. Time. Also some men (not all) get offended if you ask for something - you say ‘a little left’ and they huff or you say ‘hey gentle’ and they are gentle for a second before just poking their nail right into it again. You can know where the clit is and still suck at utilising it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 02:58 PM |
| 2 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenThe thing is, you can do and still direct. During sex you can always say things like ‘does this feel good?’ Or ‘lower’ or ‘higher’ or ‘MORE’. While it’s always good to discuss what you like with someone, sometimes if you don’t know, or if you’re still figuring out, you can’t explain what you like but you can still direct in the moment. The problem is, they don’t show that in porn and honestly I’ve had sex where I do say things like ‘more/gentle/etc’ and the men just keep like….doing what they’re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 02:55 PM |
| 13 | Porn is actually the best way for men to learn to have sex with womenI dunno my guy, any time I had porn techniques tried on me I hated it. Having men force my head further down their dick so they could face fuck me? Not fun. Also they never asked if they could do doubly unfun. Having my vagina like, gnawed at and three fingers shoved up there straight away? Unfun. Being jackhammered with no external stimulation? Unfun. Being CHOKED when it had never been brought up before? Holy fuck unfun. Like, porn might show you things you didn’t know you liked but it doesn’t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitySo I misunderstood your comment! No harm done. Let me ask a question then: What should we use instead to describe the culture of exaggerating certain traits typically associated with traditional men to the point where those traits are harmful both on an individual level and a social and societal one? These are the traits as they stand in a non toxic or harmful way: self sufficiency strength power emotional regulation Here are there exaggerated counterparts that have negative affects: isolation l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 07:15 AM |
| -1 | Why is it most women view low self esteem in a guy a red flag, but most guys view low self esteem as not a deal breaker?I would disagree - I do think some women fall prey to the idea of an ideal man being a little emotionally repressed/appearing stoic and “strong”, but I also think the issues - for men and women - come about with how someone acts because of their low self esteem. I’ve seen guys with low self esteem accidentally push their partners away by lashing out, being overly jealous, and being controlling, because their lack of confidence meant they couldn’t really accept their girlfriends love. I’ve seen w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/22 02:29 AM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityI think it’s more….you don’t HAVE to express your feelings, but if you want to, you can. ETA: at the moment, the still prevalent ‘boys don’t cry’ crap just teaches boys early they can’t show emotions. Giving people the option to if they do choose will only benefit those who feel trapped by those expectations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininitySo this is a confusing comment, for theee reasons. 1: what is your problem with my statement exactly? I simply said toxic masculine and feminine traits come from people being forced into performing traditional gender roles, does that anger you somehow? Do you want MORE people forced into gender roles? Explain the rationale here. 2: you’re saying toxic masculinity is a slur….? However toxic femininity isn’t. I say this because you talk about a ‘class of people’ I’m raging at, or we are all raging… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 11:31 PM |
| 24 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityHiiiii woman here, I think you might have misunderstood the idea of toxic masculinity and toxic femininity. The idea of traditional gendered traits being ‘toxic’ is not an attack on genders, but on a society that has forced people into performing in certain ways based ON their gender. My fave example for toxic masculinity is repressing emotions because of the masculine need to be ‘strong’ and ‘stoic’ - this has led to mens mental health issues falling to the wayside whereas womens mental health … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:53 PM |
| 4 | Society needs a more widespread recognition of toxic femininityInternalised misogyny is actually a hallmark of toxic femininity! Toxic femininity and masculinity isn’t saying masculine or feminine traits are BAD, but that some parts are harmful - for example, the attitude of men needing to be stoic and closed off is toxic masculinity because it’s an attitude that harms men and women. A toxic femininity example would be something like passive aggression - instead on confronting issues head-on, dancing around it in a way that hurts people. Mind you if we take… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/22 12:48 PM |
| 2 | Granny admits that the biggest mistake of her life.....is getting married! Ladies, what and who needs to change, to get men and women back to committed relationships?People obviously have different standards of cleanliness, thats where the communication comes in. As my (male) partner just said in response to your point “even if that’s true, the woman is still doing that for 2 people, not 1. Of course it takes longer”. But studies have shown married mothers (to men) are doing more housework than single mothers - why is that? Are all single mothers filthy and do nothing? Studies have shown women end up doing MORE housework in heterosexual relationships than wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 03:00 PM |
| 0 | WhyTF are people so mad at the older/younger dynamic?My ‘arbitrary’ age standards are based on two things: 1: our brains stop cooking properly in our mid 20s. Also, by their mid 20s, many people have lived out of home, been responsible for themselves, and have life experience. I specified at least 2 of those things in my original comment. That’s why I said over 25 I don’t care as much because by that point I’d assume most people have the ability to make informed choices and enough experience to take care of themselves properly. 2: life stage diffe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Women saying they wear make up, get plastic surgery, and dress sexy for themselves and not for attention or to attract men?Isn’t it? I agree that the body positivity movement HAS gained steam in the last few years, I’ll generously say the last ten, but here is a non-exhaustive list of women in my lifetime who were fairly normal sized that I saw fat shamed. For reference, I was born in 1996, I’ll turn 26 at the end of the year. Drew Barrymore in Charlie’s angels was called the chunky one. The movie came out in 2000. I was 4/5 In Love Actually, Hugh Grants love interest is often called chubby, plumpy, says of herself … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:42 PM |
| 0 | Women saying they wear make up, get plastic surgery, and dress sexy for themselves and not for attention or to attract men?I’m 25…..? I watched that movie growing up…..? EDIT: You don’t have to think every woman has had an IDENTICAL experience to me, that’s not what I’m saying. But I’ve spoken with a lot of my female friends about our pressure to be thin in particular (several have had ED’s) and a lot of us agreed that the way fatness was shown in movies and treated onscreen made it seem as something less than human and to br avoided at all costs. The women called ‘fat’ when they were fairly normal sized also affect… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:17 PM |
| 0 | WhyTF are people so mad at the older/younger dynamic?I think when a preference is for an ‘age group’, the older a person gets the less ok it becomes. Like Leonardo dicaprio’s endless parade of girlfriends in the early 20s - he’s twice their age in some cases, and routinely leaves them when they hit 25. At some point you gotta wonder why that is, why that man is ONLY chasing those women. But then you look at someone like hugh Jackman and his wife, Deborah lee Furness. She was 40 when they met, he was 27. They’re clearly white happy as it’s been 25 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:17 PM |
| 2 | WhyTF are people so mad at the older/younger dynamic?It depends on the relationship. GENERALLY speaking, the issue with age gaps is you have to wonder why a person would be interested in someone who is in such a different life stage. I think after a person turns 25 or so and is independent, with life experience, when they’ve lived out of home for a while and been responsible for themselves, it’s not so bad. But when you look at say a 25 year old dating an 18 year old - like, my only question is why they’d want to date someone who has just finished… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 01:50 PM |
| 1 | Women saying they wear make up, get plastic surgery, and dress sexy for themselves and not for attention or to attract men?….I’m not saying it’s about what Men Idealise, it can be that too, but it’s what we are taught to hate as well. What we are taught to fear and not want. It fucks with you. I’m not saying men also don’t have societal pressures with attractiveness, but it’s been well documented that women got quite a lot off lack for like, having normal bodies in Hollywood. Renee zelleweger in Bridget Hines diary was considered fat. Like???? You think young girls don’t see that and are affected by that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 06:34 AM |
| 6 | Women saying they wear make up, get plastic surgery, and dress sexy for themselves and not for attention or to attract men?What WE think makes us look good isn’t always what society SAYS makes us look good, and feeling like we’ll never be worth anything because we don’t look like models is pretty shattering to many people. For example - at my thinnest I didn’t have a flat stomach. At my heaviest I didn’t have a flat stomach. I would hate how I looked because of that. I grew up watching people speculate on celebrities pregnancies because they were a little bloated in a bikini, or talking about how women ‘let themselv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:29 AM |
| 5 | Granny admits that the biggest mistake of her life.....is getting married! Ladies, what and who needs to change, to get men and women back to committed relationships?It’s not that men themselves are innately ‘bad’, it’s that historically household labour and childcare was predominately performed by women, and that standard has continued into the present day unfortunately. In ye olden times, husbands worked, women did housework and child rearing. These days women are more able to work but still find themselves doing more household work. This article from the ABC has some great stats about it. I’m not expecting you to read the whole thing so here are some good… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:14 AM |
| 9 | Men pay for sex using resources/commitment, women pay for resources/commitment using sex.This!!!! I know that there are women out there who do insist on being paid for entirely, but if you don’t want to do that just don’t date women who have that requirement. Where I’m from, generally people split unless someone is really insistent on paying, and even then you at least put up a bit of a fight about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:51 PM |
| 19 | Why do women seem to be less bothered by being single than men?I actually agree with this. If (god forbid) my partner and I broke up tomorrow I’d be devastated sure, heartbroken? Certainly. I’d be completely wrecked. But I wouldn’t be alone. Not the way my grandmothers are without their husbands. For many women, we have complete lives that exist outside of our relationships. Many women don’t want a relationship to make them feel ‘complete’ because they are already complete - they want someone to SHARE that complete life with. I think the dating world and a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:44 PM |
| 1 | In Your Opinion, What Is The Ultimate Form Of Attraction?Noooo but you don’t understaaaaaaand we make them wait so we can keep fucking chads on the side and eventually use the boyfriend for financial and emotional stability while missing our glory daaaaaaaaays…… But yeah totally agree. Everyone has different expectations on when sex comes in but generally the whole point of the boyfriend is having a fun guy whose around a lot that is good at sex and that you have a lot of affection for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:24 PM |
| 5 | Why are people against "fetishiszation" when online dating is exactly that?Fetish: only pursuing someone because of a physical characteristic that you associate with certain stereotypes (“I love Asian women because their submissive and docile” or “I love black men because they have huge dicks”) Preference: liking something more than something else but not entirely excluding other things because of it (“I prefer chocolate ice cream to strawberry but ice cream is ice cream” “I like big boobs but all boobs are pretty cool”). A woman only dating black men because she think… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 03:20 PM |
| 7 | Why are people against "fetishiszation" when online dating is exactly that?I dunno my guy, I used to work with a girl who was half-Japanese, and she used to say she didn’t mind men having a preference but she wanted to know WHY they had it. Men would assume because of her background and appearance that she was this sort of submissive, cutsey little ‘waifu’ who would be happy being their personal geisha. They would approach her and tell her how ‘exotic’ she looked and it would piss her off. She’s an intelligent, outspoken, hilarious person but she hated men approaching … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 12:13 PM |
| 0 | Why do men care so much more than women about promiscuity?Oh haven’t you heard? Apparently we like, pair bond to men we fuck or something and the more men we fuck the harder it is for us to give ourselves over to our life partner completely or some shit like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/22 04:55 AM |
| 1 | women like rogues not particularly alpha menNo……? He wasn’t like that when we started dating, he became like that, I dumped him, he stopped being like that, we got back together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 05:53 AM |
| 2 | women like rogues not particularly alpha menI dunno I think it depends on the type of people you want to attract. I definitely know some people who are as you’d call them ‘rogues’. They do have some success with women but only women who find those traits attractive and want to live that lifestyle. Which isn’t all women. My current partner and I dated out of high school and broke up because I didn’t agree with his behaviour - dealing, lots of partying, etc etc etc. when we got back together a few years later it’s because he was at the tail… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/22 03:25 AM |
| 1 | As an artist, what type of music or lyrics will make me be more attractive or elsewise?Look to be honest I don’t understand your question at all but imma try and answer as a profession woman. Firstly - there’s no magic formula because most people are different and like different things. One of my favourite songs that instantly puts me in an amazing mood is Quinnie’s ‘Touch Tank’ but I’ll also scream sing along to Fleetwood Mac or vibe to hozier or pump myself up with Doja cat. One person can like so many different genres for so many different things, and while I love those artists… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/22 10:45 AM |
| 1 | He didn't use you for sex. Sex as a female resource for social exchange in hetero interactionsSee that really depends on the context though! To use the original concert example - let’s say you go to the concert and your acquaintance starts to behave, like, SUPER inappropriately. This can range from just making tasteless and insulting comments to actually making you feel unsafe. You get home and you realise you don’t want to go anywhere with them again. If they were just being tasteless, definitely tell them what’s up. If they made you feel unsafe? Ghosting is more than fine. Someone who … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 11:16 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.I love this answer! It completely breaks down my argument in a very informed way so Thankyou! All my info in the above comment was regurgitated second hand from a PT friend I have so forgive my ‘bad takes’ if you will. I guess what I’m wondering is this; Personally having looked at the entrance requirements for basic I think they are pissweak for both genders anyway, but hey I’m not a general I don’t know shit about what they’re looking for. But I DO know that when it comes to strength and speed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:15 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.Then just….have that be the exam…..? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:01 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.As will a woman who doesn’t improve? What’s your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 01:01 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.Ok doesn’t change the fact that the bar is low for men and women to get into basic. Hell, I can do 13 push ups do you think I work out regularly when I spend this much time online? Fuck no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:54 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.They don’t? The entrance to basic is like, 13 push ups, a beep test, and some crunches. Basic TRAINING is a different beast. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:50 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.How….how is it not gender neutral to measure relative strength? It’s the MOST neutral. It takes away arbitrary gender requirements. I know horribly unfit men who could very easily pass the American fitness army exam. Not basic training, but the entry to basic training certainly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:49 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.Then have them lift an artillery shell? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:46 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.It takes gender out of it entirely, and bases it on relative strength. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:42 PM |
| 1 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.I think if you’re gonna be this hard on it, there ARE ways to do it that aren’t gendered at all. Work out a formula based on body weight - like when you lift weights (not that you do in military trials or whatever) you have to be able to life x times your body weight. Work that out to push-ups and pull ups. Not sure how you’d measure crunches but that’s for scientist types not me. For running, have them be the same that’s reasonable. But for strength, make it relative to your weight. I know some… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:42 PM |
| 2 | If males in the military have higher physical requirements and get paid the same, that is gender discrimination against equal opportunity. They should be either paid more than females, or require the same physical standards.Well then! Do it by gender neutral standards - For general strength, measure by saying they have to life x times their body weight, work out a formula for body weight and push ups/pull ups and do that. Studies show women in general have better stamina and muscle endurance, so take the male and female running requirements and work out a way to make them meet in the middle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/22 12:35 PM |
| 4 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsI mean even with my ‘worthless’ degrees I still couldn’t decipher what the heck you were saying there my guy, maybe if you’d taken the time to sit in on my worthless classes you would’ve picked up that I said ‘partner’ not ‘husband’. I’m not married. But thanks for playing! ETA: you also said ‘you’ several times replying to me. Forgive me for thinking that meant your vitriol was directed personally. My mistake, your derision isn’t for ME personally just women overall. :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 12:20 PM |
| 6 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsHow….? Edit: I had my casual sex between 18-20 thankyouuuuu. Partner loves me anyway :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 12:02 PM |
| 6 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsSir I am…..25…….calm down 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 12:00 PM |
| 9 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsHuh, funny, I definitely did some casual sex and yet here I am in a happy long term relationship with a man I respect and adore, and who adores me. As are many of my friends. It’s almost like…..that generalisation doesn’t apply to most people…..but what do I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 11:45 AM |
| 14 | You cannot have high standards and expect to find a partner if you don't match their equally high standardsMost of the theory touted on here as ‘fact’ is just women growing and maturing. If you casually dated then ‘settled down’ - well, you must be using him. What do you mean you learned you didn’t like casual connections? What do you mean you travelled a lot so long term wasn’t compatible? What do you mean you didn’t want relationships to influence your school or work choices? Nah, just using him. I hate that narrative. People grow and change and mature so much in their 20s and the idea that women j… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemOhhh ok well I’m sorry for me being an ass in my reply. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?I meant judging JUST by statistics is dumb my bad for poor wording. We need the full context to properly judge a situation - the societal and historical context among others. On another note - It really feels like you’re nitpicking or trying to trap me somehow. I’m gonna change my initial comments wording in the first sentence to better reflect what I meant, but if you’re not planning on engaging in good faith I won’t feel the need to respond to you further. My initial comment shows that cherry … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 06:25 AM |
| 2 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?You worded this waaaaay better than me Thankyou so much xx ETA: that was sincere I hope it didn’t come across as sarcastic | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:59 AM |
| 3 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?That’s my point….we can’t just use statistics without the full context. I don’t believe POC deserve to die or be incarcerated. My point is racists often cherry pick the ‘POC crime’ statistics without considering the other surrounding ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:58 AM |
| 2 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?Our brains stop developing at 25 which is a good indicator for someone’s values and morals being set, sure. My grandmas change happened because of life. My (badly worded) point is that people can change at any point, there’s no point even guessing before they finish developing, and you don’t truly know someone until you see them react to shit happen. My grandma changed because my sister came out. Without that experience she never would have. My grandparents on my other side didn’t change when my… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:58 AM |
| 6 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?I’m confused - Im out here saying ‘let’s give people time to grow and learn and figure themselves out because you can’t really know a person til they’ve done some growing’ And you’re telling me that’s bullshit. What’s bullshit? I’m saying ALL people should be given a chance to learn and change and you’re….mad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:44 AM |
| 3 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?Respectfully I think I disagree but maybe I’m not the best example. My grandmother, a devout Christian, was extremely homophobic and became less so in her 70s, something we never would have guessed happening. She voted for same sex marriage and doesn’t understand the queer community but accepts and loves them. She is still the same woman I know - stern, stubborn, loving - but this one thing changed. It’s not something you’d recognise from a 5 minute conversation, but it’s something none of her l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 05:38 AM |
| 5 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?ETA: changing the first sentence as some wording was not the best. Judging by JUST statistics is dumb. Cherry picking a single statistic and ignoring the real life context around them doesn’t make for a good argument. Statistically speaking, dogs cause more human deaths than lions, hippos, and crocodiles. Does that mean dogs are inherently dangerous and we should all switch to lions instead? No. Numbers aren’t the WHOLE story. My country has low unemployment but a lot of under-employment, we che… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 03:52 AM |
| 7 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?Then neither should men. ETA: People should be given grace and space to grow. But you don’t properly know a person until they know themselves. How can you? The idea that you can ‘predict’ potential is dumb. The kids with ‘so much potential’ in uni might burn out and do nothing. The drop-kick might end up being amazing. You can’t judge by potential, just how someone is when you know them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 03:39 AM |
| 10 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?That is such a good question! Mind you, I hate talking myself up so I’ll do the best I can. So I’m gonna say that externally I seem very similar. My friends at 22 described me as clever, compassionate, funny, and sweet. They’d also say I cared too much about what people think, that I was a bit of a doormat, that I was emotionally all over the place and very thoughtless sometimes. Today, those same people would still say that I am clever, compassionate, funny, and sweet, but they’d also say I was… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 03:39 AM |
| 1 | Would Short Men (Under 5 ft 5) Have More Dating Opportunities In A Country Where The Average Woman Is Shorter?Ahhh there ya go. Sorry my meds take a minute to kick in when I take them so that’s on me for my shit reading comprehension before vyvanse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 02:46 AM |
| 13 | How big a deal is it if your partner never initiates sexI’m confused - original commenter said they want a man who can communicate WHY they are feeling a certain way and you think that means they want a mind reader? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 02:39 AM |
| 14 | Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?Peoples brains don’t stop developing until they’re like 25 my guy. You really can’t know a person until you see how they react to tragedy or upheaval or difficulty, until they finish school and start working, until they actually live a little. I am an entirely different person today to how I was at 20. Or 22. Hell, im 25 and im entirely different to how I was last year in some aspects. If someone stays exactly how they were at 18/19/20, when they’re still developing their emotional maturity and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 02:36 AM |
| 2 | Would Short Men (Under 5 ft 5) Have More Dating Opportunities In A Country Where The Average Woman Is Shorter?Did you ever think maybe people can like each other and height difference isn’t the biggest factor? Is it an absolute that all women care about height? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 02:11 AM |
| 4 | Would Short Men (Under 5 ft 5) Have More Dating Opportunities In A Country Where The Average Woman Is Shorter?So it’s more likely ALL women are shallow horrible creatures? I dunno, I’ve seen too many real life examples of shorter men doing really well with women to think that. So either they are just the only exceptions to exist in the whole world or maybe all women aren’t complete shit. The latter reason seems more likely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/09/22 01:06 AM |
| -6 | Would Short Men (Under 5 ft 5) Have More Dating Opportunities In A Country Where The Average Woman Is Shorter?You forget option 3. She genuinely loves him and height isn’t a factor he just happens to be tall. EDIT: Me: hey so sometimes height isn’t the be all end all factor. Maybe someone dates a tall guy and his height isn’t a factor in why she loves him. Men: NOOOO you’re lying/naive/dumb if women likes taller man it is ONLY because he’s tall. see how that sounds? I’m just saying it isn’t a universal absolute truth that you date a tall guy BECAUSE he’s tall. Not sure why daring to suggest that the wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 11:18 PM |
| 1 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemWhile I Thankyou for your condescending explanation of history feminism and everything else, I think your take is idiotic and including Jefferson on a list with other feminists will confuse people at first glance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 10:18 PM |
| 3 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemI’m sorry, Thomas Jefferson was a feminist? s The same Thomas Jefferson who wrote this to his daughter? ‘….. I hope therefore, the moment you rise from bed, your first work will be to dress yourself in such style as that you may be seen by any gentleman without his being able to discover a pin amiss’ The same Thomas Jefferson who declared publicly that men were meant for debate and politics and protection and women meant domestic tasks and said that to cross that line was a deprivation of morals… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 04:08 PM |
| 5 | Feminists having submissive/degradation kinks is a huge contradiction go their belief systemIf you are not ok with men being judged for being Virgins, maybe don’t judge women for what they do? As long as it’s legal, ethical, consensual, and SAFE, why is it your concern? Just don’t date a woman who likes that stuff if you don’t like it, and stop caring so much about what other women are doing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/22 03:55 PM |
| 12 | What do you think about the Mario Batali case and false rape allegations against men ?Hey so actually statistically women are NOT believed by the courts/justice system/etc far more than they are. The fear of backlash and public punishment for coming out as a survivor is one of the main reasons many women do not come forward when it happens to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/22 11:19 AM |
| 9 | Do your partners identify as feminist?Me: babe would you call yourself a feminist? My partner: did I say you could fucking speak? Go make me a sandwich Me: go work a soul crushing job you hate to fund my extravagant lifestyle My partner: FINE! I WILL! You better have dinner ready when get back! Me: I’ll poison it! …. He was 10000% joking we both were. But yeah he is a feminist, progressive, very into workers rights and improved welfare and universal healthcare. And I love him for it. I am also all those things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/22 03:56 PM |
| 2 | Men & women think “I got what I wanted”Hey real-life women here. I’ve met men who have the attitude you described….I’ve also met more men who DONT have that attitude. Those men are who I choose to spend time with and associate with. It’s almost like….I dunno….maybe you only hang out with a particular kind of guy and have Forgotten that gender isn’t a monolith that has a bunch of set personality traits deeply engrained in it….just maybe…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/22 02:15 PM |
| 34 | Women need to be taught at a young age how to treat men the same ways young boys are taught to treat womenIgnoring how terrible this take is on mental health….you realise it is the DADS giving the daughters daddy issues right? The…the DADS. The male parent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 12:00 PM |
| 6 | i don't understand why women sleeps around and see it as recreational‘God I love this cake but I’m never gonna eat it because I don’t want to offend a different cake I might have someday’ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/22 09:04 AM |
| 4 | The truth about female beauty. These guys are absolutely correct. Discuss.I didn’t say you had to stop liking it, just be aware that of what can and can’t be achieved naturally :) | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/08/22 06:57 AM |
| 1 | The truth about female beauty. These guys are absolutely correct. Discuss.Hey so I want to add - I’m a bra fitter. As in, I fit women for bras for a living. Specifically large breasts (it’s a large cup size retailer). We stock everything from D-K from a 28 inch band to a 44 inch band. Breasts are NOT as large as they think you are. AT ALL! Most traditional gra fitting involves measuring the ‘underbust’ (top of rib cage under the boobs) and then the ‘bust’ (widest part of the boob). Then they add 4 inches to that underbust measurement and the difference between the und… | /r/AllPillDebate | 30/08/22 05:23 AM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?And all I’m saying is you’re not creepy if you do it respectfully :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menI also said we often grow beyond that….I dated a bad boy and realised it wasn’t worth it. I was 18. At 25 I’m with a wonderful sweet man. Many women will grow beyond the bad boy phase and others won’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 02:02 PM |
| 0 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I’m giving you my honest opinion on my experiences and how they form my viewpoint and you say it’s a lie? Cool. BTW MANY occurrences of men saying creepy shit to me has happened at locations like - cafes, restaurants, bars (I go to live music gigs a lot) the gym…. I just wanna exist my guy. I legit just want to go about my life, dressing how I want. Men are welcome to find me attractive, they’re allowed to compliment me, but I’m not flattered when they say gross shit. Which is 9/10 times what th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?All women are either: Good knitting tradwives Drunk whores. Nah but seriously - props to you for knowing what you want, but just because SOME women clubbing act the way you say doesn’t mean ALL women do that. I’m a homebody. I cross stitch. I embroider. I knit. I bake brownies and do laundry and love being at home reading. Sometimes I will go out, get messy drunk, and dance with my best friends. We don’t talk to guys and we don’t ‘gossip about how hot guys are’ we just like going out and dancing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 08:09 AM |
| 0 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?I don’t think it’s egotistical or picky to be turned off by men making gross comments to me and being surprised I’m not spreading my legs for them. You wanna hit on a woman? Be respectful. Maybe wait until you know like 10 things about her until you pull out weird sexual comments. ETA: you can no doubt think anything you want but maybe communicate it without being weird. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 07:42 AM |
| -1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Not at all that. It’s more the compliments they give are less sexualised. A man will usually tell my me ass looks good. A woman will tell me my outfit is amazing. For me, it’s about HOW the attention is given. Typically when a man compliments me he is focussing on how sexually attractive I am to HIM. I did not dress for him and I honestly didn’t need to know that he thought my ‘tits looked awesome’. Whereas typically when a woman compliments me she’ll focus on things I’ve done to look good - ‘yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 07:34 AM |
| 1 | So some people are getting really excited about studies that show that the perception of women breaks them down in parts in a way that men are not. Is this saying what people think it’s saying?How about this: Your coworker wears a fitted pencil skirt. Her ass looks really good in it. You notice and say nothing? That’s fine. Just don’t stare don’t be a creep. You notice and say something in appropriate to her or others? Gross. You notice and say something nice but NOT inappropriate? Bordering, but usually fine. If you say to your coworker Mike ‘Sarah looks nice today!’ That’s fine. If you say to Sarah ‘I like your outfit!’ That’s fine. If you say to Mike ‘oh my god Sarah’s ass did you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 06:31 AM |
| 2 | Is there something about autism itself (absent any deliberate behaviors) that are turnoffs for potential mates?Ahhhhh this. So much this. 100000000x this. My partner is on the spectrum. He often blurts out things he shouldn’t, he struggles with connecting with people, he can’t look people in the eye. He’s the sweetest and funniest man I know, and he has to work so hard to maintain friendships because he’s still learning the script everyone else memorised in their teens. Even in our relationship his viewpoint is so foreign to mine it’s crazy, and we have to work super hard to find common ground and work w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 06:15 AM |
| 3 | If could use just 1 (one) argument to convince someone from the opposite pill about the validity of your own pill, what would that argument be?Do they have the data on all the women he didn’t match with? Otherwise selection bias. If I claimed all men were rapists because x amount of men committed rape….that’s dumb, because I’d be leaving out how many men didn’t. All this shows is something we already know - some people are just shitty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 06:04 AM |
| -1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Hahahahaa I actually way more value the attention from women. If I’m out with my friends and a guy leers and tells me I look hot and offers me a drink, NOPE. If a girl stops by us and says I look stunning and compliments my outfit/hair/makeup….amazing. Instant ego boost. That’s my new best friend right there. I would die for her in a second. I will invite her to sit and get to know her. Almost everyone likes attention, but it’s WHY we are getting the attention. If a man I don’t know is coming up… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Do women in relationships go out for attention from other guys?Spending time with your friends if they’re going out drinking is bad? Interesting take. Should we stay home and start a sewing circle instead? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 05:50 AM |
| 4 | How much effort do you put on your looks?Oof it depends. But seriously it depends. Every morning: cleanse face. Toner. niancimide serum and hyaluronic serum. Moisturiser. (Repeat at night). This will take 5 minutes. I’m not great at makeup. I can do a little but not a lot. Typically if I’m getting ready for work I’ll just do a little brown mascara and fix my eyebrows and put on time tinted lip balm. This will take 3 minutes on top of my skincare (so 8 all up). If I’m going to work but want to look nice? BB cream mixed with my primer. C… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 05:48 AM |
| 1 | Women prefer toxic menHonestly I blame a lot of my own former ‘attraction’ to bad boys on like, the idealisation they have in movies and tv. We grow up consuming media where a) love is seen as the ultimate goal and b) where to create tension people act horribly. No one is watching the movie where the main couple has great communication and talks out all their problems. There’s no drama in that. But when you’re young and that’s what you’re seeing everywhere, you start to sort of assume that’s what you should want/will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/22 04:56 AM |
| 1 | Women actually like emotional guysI mean sure but while I agree people take astrology waaaaaay too far (hating certain star signs, making big decisions based on transits or whatever) it’s also a harmless little self reflection tool. Like, im a Capricorn. I do not relate to being a Capricorn. I am not traditional or hard working. But I do measure my success monetarily. It’s something I hate in others that I worked out I do myself. Im trying to actively not do that. It’s good! A boss of mine is a Leo. He hires based on star sign c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:20 PM |
| 1 | Women actually like emotional guysEmotional intelligence does not equal crying? Like fuck, feelings alone do not equal emotional intelligence. Everyone has feelings. The guy punching a bin on the street because his team lost a game is not emotionally intelligent just because he is expressing his anger. Emotional intelligence comes down to a few factors - It means understanding your own emotions and others emotions, being able to process your own emotions in a healthy way, and being able to empathise with others. A quick google d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/22 04:16 PM |
| 3 | Men should shoot their shot. Always. Sorry if that makes you uncomfortable, women.What…..what does this even mean? Like I’ve genuinely read this interaction 3 times and I cannot work out what big point you’re making my guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/22 01:14 PM |
| 3 | (The elephant in the room) Why a fun sex life and a stable long term monogamous relationship can't occur together. The madonna-whore complex applied to IRLUm ok? I didn’t withhold sex on purpose I just wasn’t interested in it because I was tired from work, study, and maintaining a whole house alone. I didn’t have to do any of the shit you described for my partner to pitch in equally. I legit just talked to him and levelled with him and he improved his behaviour. But Thankyou for your weird and somewhat irrelevant addition that shows you clearly did NOT read my comment. I don’t use sex as a reward or a punishment. I do it to feel good and feel conn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 10:43 AM |
| 1 | homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in menI did a whoooole othet comment about this but: Why bi women end up with men usually comes down to like 4 key reasons. 1: straight is the societal ‘default’. We like men so we assume we are straight. It is also ‘normal’ for women to have very emotionally intimate friendships, so if you assume you are straight when you aren’t, you often won’t realise that some of those were crushes (from experience: I had hella crushes in high school on girls but at the time I thought they were friends). 2: there … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 03:07 AM |
| 3 | homosexual behaviors in women and loneliness in menBisexual woman dating a bisexual man here! There’s a lot of reason bi women end up with men. Reason 1: Societal Norms. I don’t mean that in a bad or a good way, just that it IS. I’ve got a lot of bi female friends and all of us thought we were straight through high school, because our attraction to men was assumed as a ‘default setting’. We knew we were attracted to men, there was a lot of representation growing up both in media and around us of girls dating men, so we both thought we knew what … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 02:59 AM |
| 8 | (The elephant in the room) Why a fun sex life and a stable long term monogamous relationship can't occur together. The madonna-whore complex applied to IRLBut why did they lose interest? I’m in my mid twenties. I’ve been with my partner for like….6 years (7 if you count that we dated after high school). There was a period where we weren’t having sex at all really. Wanna know why? He wasn’t pulling his weight with housework. I don’t mean that I punished him by withholding sex, I wasn’t even really conscious that it was happening, but after a few weeks of having to clean up after both of us, do all the cooking, go to work and study….I wasn’t interes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/22 01:33 AM |
| 7 | "100 strokes of brush..." or "the MAXIMUM of sex is done with MINIMUM love" conundrumOk I’m confused - so because she did something ONCE she should do it again even if she doesn’t want to? By that logic - I’ve donated to a charity once. They called me up and asked me to donate again and I said ‘no thanks’. Am I supposed to donate again even if I didn’t want to? The girl in the book was 15. She might’ve been having sex but she wasn’t emotionally mature and didn’t have a fully developed brain. Does she have to repeat the shit she did at 15 forever with every partner because the pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/22 08:21 AM |
| 3 | Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences?I will say, as a woman whose had casual sex, there were definitely some times i went into it and enjoyed myself during but because I went into it trying to like, fill a void or cure my unhappiness, I felt worse afterwards. That was not the man’s fault (I mean a few times it was because like, foreplay seemed optional to them????) it was entirely my own. I was doing it for the wrong reasons and I don’t blame them for that because it’s not like I listed off all my issues beforehand, but I still reg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 10:26 PM |
| 1 | "My friend had a lot of fun in her 20s and 30s. Now She's happily married with an amazing husband and has 2 kids." - A lot of women on this sub and FDS sub says that. But there are big holes in that logic.I will agree that there are some women out there who are shitty people and do shitty things. I guess I just take umbrage with how often I see that being applied to ALL women and being passed off as a ‘cheat code’ to understanding female behaviour. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 10:22 PM |
| 5 | Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences?Yeah I hate the whole ‘daddy issues = sex’ thing but unfortunately there is some evidence to support that it can be one of many factors leading to unhealthy relationships with men in general. However it’s far more likely to be part of a plethora of things. And I really wish there was a better name because ‘daddy issues’ sounds so infantilising when really it’s an attachment issue after not getting enough from a parent. Also yeah the assumption it always leads to horniness is super damaging. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?I didn’t want to keep seeing them. The date might’ve gone poorly, or we had different views, or I just didn’t feel like we vibed particularly well. Even if it’s just casual I’m looking for, I want someone I can banter with, and who I feel has a modicum of respect for me. If that’s not the case I would text them the day letting them know I wasn’t interested. Some men would be fine with it, others would be assholes I wasn’t into them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?Almost all the time. The first few I’m not gonna lie I let them pay (maybe the first 3?) but I was 18 and at the time didn’t know men could feel used. At least it was only coffee dates. The rest I would insist on splitting. Once or twice a guy would pull a sneaky and ‘go pee’ and pay on their way there, but I made sure as much as possible to make it clear I would pay for myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 02:04 PM |
| 1 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?I am so sorry therapy did not helped you. I hope you are able to make peace with what can’t be changed, even if nothing can be helped, and you find some happiness somewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?Sorry to hear it didn’t serve you! I know many men who had vastly different experiences. I don’t know where you are, but most men I know who have tried therapy really benefited. It wasn’t just talking (although having someone listen helped) it was the Band-Aid solutions. My boyfriend said this; “If a boat is leaking you plug the hole, and then guide it back to harbour to fix. My psych gives me the Band-Aid so we can get to the solution”. My favourite therapy story my partner has is how he strugg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 01:27 PM |
| 4 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?I swear by ‘baby runs for president’. A guy recently approached me and my friend (more so my friend she is stunning) and tried his luck. We said no, he sat at our table. I asked him his name, (I’ll call him Josh) and then like shrieked in surprise. ‘Oh my god that’s my little brothers name! You don’t look anything like him though’ Which was a weird enough thing to say but he still tried to buy us drinks. ‘You still have yours! Do you drink a lot? My uncle drank a lot but my mum said that’s becau… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?Cold approaches. I always did my best to pay my way on dates. Didn’t stop the insults if I decided against continuing things though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 01:03 PM |
| 3 | Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences?Yeah that’s the thing. And that’s what happened to me. I realised during my casual sex days I was engaging in unhealthy behaviour and had to actively work to unlearn it, or at least not make decisions for unhealthy reasons. I think we romanticise the ‘broken girl who fucks because of it’ in media a little tbh. So when you’re young and feel broken or unhappy you do what you’ve seen which is fuck around, not knowing WHY. If I was single now, I can honestly say I’d still probably try casual sex, bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Why do you women want romance in life?I think that’s not the most nuanced take out there. Romance means different things to different people. We are taught to think of romance as ‘big’ things - red roses, firework displays, diamonds and dimly lit restaurants. But that’s not what everyone considers romantic. Sometimes you try those things and realise it’s just not….for you. Like, today I bought a lingerie set and showed my partner. His first reaction was “You look amazing? Is it comfortable?” He was concerned I wasn’t comfortable. Li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:55 PM |
| 7 | Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences?Yeah. If you’re ACTIVELY seeking casual sex for healthy reasons (you want it because you like it) then go off! Go have fun. Hump to your hearts content as long as it’s safe and legal and consensual and ethical. If you’re doing it because of unresolved trauma or other mental health issues….try and deal with those first. Sex should be something you have to ENJOY, not as a form of self harm or validation or because of other issues. Its ok to feel validated from sex, but you shouldn’t be having sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:34 PM |
| 4 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?I think we can all agree that everyone is at least a little shallow. We all want the ‘best’ the difference lies in what each individual sees as the ‘best’. For some, the best is virginal gorgeous tradwivds. For some the best is a rich strong 6foot man. And for others it’s way more reasonable. My partner in my eyes is the best. He’s not everyone’s best though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:30 PM |
| 2 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?Question: what do you think therapy is? Why do you think men don’t benefit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:27 PM |
| 4 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?Eugh this. Some men see a ‘no’ as a bargaining point. Like they can haggle you into a ‘yes’. ‘I don’t accept drinks/numbers from strangers’ leads to them saying: ‘ Well get to know me and I won’t be a stranger’. ‘I have a boyfriend’ leads to them saying: ‘He’s not here/you can’t have friends?/he doesn’t need to know’ ‘Thanks but I’m just here with my friends’ and they say ‘oh so you don’t want to meet new people?’ And a simple ‘no thanks!’ Becomes an attack - ‘What, an i not hot/tall/whatever en… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:22 PM |
| 2 | Would things really be "better off" if women were more brutally honest about what they like/find attractive?From the other perspective: I have rejected men firmly and still gotten very angry reactions. I’ve also rejected men kindly and gotten angry reactions. I’ve rejected men rudely and gotten angry reactions. I’ve also rejected men in all those ways and gotten normal reactions. But I’ll tell you what, the fear of getting those angry reactions definitely makes me anxious whenever I have to tell a man no. You get followed/groped/grabbed/harassed/pressured enough times and you get nervous being direct.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:17 PM |
| 14 | Is the overall resistance towards the n count, promiscuity, casual sex, etc. argument due to the hypocrisy for saying it’s ok for men to do, just not women? Or is it that you believe these things really are good things to pursue and/or have no negative consequences?Hmmmm look I can see where you’re coming from but I think you’re not understanding something. Some girls absolutely have sex just for validation. Or because of trauma. Or daddy issues or whatever. Some people have sex because they want and like it. And some people have it for both reasons. People don’t exist in an ‘you’re either A or B’ category. I’ve had casual sex that I regretted because I wanted validation or had issues with boundaries. I’ve also had casual sex that I enjoyed and genuinely w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 12:12 PM |
| 5 | "My friend had a lot of fun in her 20s and 30s. Now She's happily married with an amazing husband and has 2 kids." - A lot of women on this sub and FDS sub says that. But there are big holes in that logic.You’re entire point is rooted in an idea that women are manipulative and men are somehow victimised by their desire of women. Some women are manipulative - many are not. My point is that make sweeping generalisations on an entire genders behaviour is kinda a dick move. I can accept some people act shittily and others don’t. For example, I accept you have a shitty insulting viewpoint. I’m not gonna go around saying ‘oh ALL men are like this’ because that would be wrong and reductive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 09:41 AM |
| 8 | "My friend had a lot of fun in her 20s and 30s. Now She's happily married with an amazing husband and has 2 kids." - A lot of women on this sub and FDS sub says that. But there are big holes in that logic.Hey I have a question and remember I’m a woman so please treat me like a child and use SMALL words only…. Has it ever occurred to you, even in passing, that maybe…..maybe people are actually quite different and believe different things so what you consider disgusting another person might not actually care about? Like, that maybe your worldview doesn’t encompass the entirety of human experience? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 06:58 AM |
| 2 | "My friend had a lot of fun in her 20s and 30s. Now She's happily married with an amazing husband and has 2 kids." - A lot of women on this sub and FDS sub says that. But there are big holes in that logic.By OP’s logic I am a junk heap who hates my boyfriend and maybe I am a junk heap but that’s more due to my personality not my body count (My boyfriend is ok I guess) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 06:53 AM |
| 15 | "My friend had a lot of fun in her 20s and 30s. Now She's happily married with an amazing husband and has 2 kids." - A lot of women on this sub and FDS sub says that. But there are big holes in that logic.I mean….. Women….women aren’t commodities be consumed. They are people. They don’t exist for consumption they exist for themselves. Also in this hypothetical you’re chatting with you FIL which is just weird. The bigger problem is why is it appropriate to be discussing your wife’s past sex life with her father? Kinda icky. Also OP is talking as if the woman doesn’t actually think her husband is amazing. Why? He clearly thinks badly of the husband for getting ‘used goods’ but the woman must really… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/22 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?But I guess it’s a lot easier and feels better in the moment to just bicker about the blood loss and here we all are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 02:21 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Thankyou very much. I think all the infighting gets nothing done. And maybe we can disagree with each other but to go ‘well you were stabbed and I was shot and I’ve decided me being shot should matter MORE TO YOU than your stab wound’ doesn’t change the fact that you’re both bleeding and need help. Much more productive to be like ‘fuck that sucks let’s get some help’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?I do talk to my friends about it? Also I did have an example of change….my partner used to just go along with shitty behaviour. I got upset with that and talked to him and confronted him. Now he doesn’t. You’re right no adult with access to education and the internet and just people in general is OWED education. But what’s the harm in me educating them if I want too? Is it affecting you personally? Also again, I really do believe standing up to bullies does make a difference. If no one ever stoo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 11:40 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?I don’t believe I said that men only bring ul arguments about their struggles to invalidate womens issues, I said I don’t agree with men who ONLY bring up their struggles to invalidate womens issues. My point in my comment is this: I acknowledge men have struggles and support them fighting for change. I do not support men who see women discussing things like the bias against women in medicine and say things like ‘so what more men die every year to murder!’ It’s like…..yes that is true, and reall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 11:37 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Well you are free to walk away and not think about it, I prefer to challenge them when I can. Because the reason they say this shit is usually down to them genuinely not caring about others, or genuinely not knowing it’s wrong. If they genuinely don’t know it’s wrong then it’s an opportunity to educate. If they genuinely don’t care about others and say it because they are bigoted or just like shitting on people for ‘shock value’ staying silent makes them more able to say worse stuff. I personall… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 10:47 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?I’m not sure I understand the point? Maybe my comprehension is just shot | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 10:40 AM |
| 7 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?I think a lot of this comes from a really big ‘us versus them’ mentality. It’s hard to conceptualise and understand issues you have no experience with. And when you’re suffering, it’s hard to accept that a group you see as having it ‘better’ also has their own issues. It becomes more ‘who has it worse’ not ‘hey we have it bad in different ways how do we do we fix it?’. This is a problem on BOTH sides of the argument. I think we all need to think critically about our own privileges we are afforde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 10:40 AM |
| 2 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?I’d love you to expand on this if possible. You believe men suffer more on the whole than women - please explain why. I promise to listen and be respectful throughout. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 10:13 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Calling out creeps: My partner was getting drinks with a friend and his friends workmate. We’ll call the workmate Mike. My partner didn’t like Mike to start with because Mike said a guy nearby was ‘dressed like a f*****’. My partner very quickly said that using that word wasn’t ok. Mike made a lame apology, said it was a habit from his gaming days or whatever, and my partner decided to give it another go. Later that night, Mike got drunk and was talking about a hot girl at his office and the way… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?You can do that if you like. But If I’m referring to someone and unsure of their gender I use ‘they’ because I don’t know, and if I do know I use the appropriate pronouns. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 09:24 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?And that’s good for you that you don’t mind! But some people don’t like being misgendered and I think it’s a very easy thing to accomodate them. I mean, if you don’t know someone’s name you don’t just call them ‘Greg’. You ask. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Oh ok I misunderstood your comment (I got no sleep and my meds are acting up today). I think maybe asking if a person is comfortable sharing their pronouns is a better option. Because then they’ll tell you what they want you to call them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 05:56 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?I’m referring to multiple people at once so they/them was a plural. I was referring to trans men as a group. Sorry if this at all offended you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:04 AM |
| 4 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?I think you get what I mean - society creata mens issues, women can reinforce them, as can other men, and the media we consume and the childhood we get and so on and so forth. It’s not as simple as one group against another. It’s all of us against the system. Oh I encourage anger towards those who perpetuate negative shit. It’s why I’m here after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 04:03 AM |
| 3 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Fair enough! So I guess we have similar ideas but different words for it. It is entirely fair to want to not be part of a movement that has the capacity to be awful to you. A lot of women of colour also reject feminism for this reason. So I get where you’re coming from. I thought you meant ALL feminists = bad when you really mean ENOUGH feminists are bad that it’s not worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/22 12:08 AM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Sorry I’ll rephrase: to me, casual sex has LESS EMOTION than partner sex. I say this as someone who enjoyed casual sex and doesn’t judge those who enjoy it. But in my experience, there was no emotional investment from me or my partner. Many times, there was barely even an investment in my enjoyment. It is not controversial to value the sex I have with my partner Of half a decade+ more than the casual one/two/three night stands I’ve had before? Like maybe there can be emotion in casual sex and if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 11:59 PM |
| 8 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Sure I’m happy to give examples! So for men blaming women for mens issues - You can definitely blame women who actively are committing crimes like you’ve suggested. You can blame the individual women involved, and if you’re feeling it that say, you can expand your critique to how the justice system brushes off male victims when women are the perpetrator because of the idea that men are strong and can just defend themselves and women aren’t capable. You can critique the lack of resources for men … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 11:56 PM |
| 4 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Hi so while I understand where you’re coming from I really really disagree. If someone WANTS to be gendered, why not just let them be? Why not let an individual decide if gender is something they want to engage with, and how, and respect that choice? Your intentions, while good, are going to invalidate the feelings of many people because you’re assuming your way is best. Gender is a social construct AND an individual choice. We can and we should dismantle the social constructs around gender, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 10:58 PM |
| 5 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Ok so I think you’re seeing the two things - feminism and mens issues - as mutually exclusive. I think it’s a lot more nuanced than that because feminism is a big umbrella and a lot of people define themselves as feminists when really they shouldn’t be. Firstly I’ll concede on a few things - you’re right that feminism historically didn’t have much time for mens issues. It’s a more recent development (last ten years?) where feminists are trying to focus on uplifting men AND women AND all gender d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 10:54 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Hi I’m not saying one moral and one isn’t? Also I’m occasionally non monogamous. I mean, we are open sometimes and closed others. Edit 2 makes me think youre structuring the question to get a specific answer. Im not sure my input is helpful to that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Explain? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 09:50 PM |
| 17 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?3 things: 1: I hold this same standard for women. Our issues exist but we can’t pretend men don’t also have issues. We’re only going to improve things if we work together/Make space for each other. 2: if women/feminism blame ‘the patriarchy’ That is not a fun way to say “men”, it is a shorthand describing systems in society that have historically benefitted men in certain ways and the affects that have carried on into the modern era. The patriarchy harms men also and it is important to acknowled… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:46 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Those women aren’t feminists because by definition feminism is about gender equality and murdering men for no reason isn’t equal? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:36 PM |
| 3 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Good for you that you have explored gender and come to your own ideas! Genuinely it’s awesome. But just because you don’t believe in something doesn’t mean it’s not important to lots of people. I am not a fan of the gender binary, but if someone has pronouns im not going to ignore them. Some people find pronouns gender affirming. So if a trans man is like ‘use he/him’ I will. If an NB person is like ‘use they/them. Please don’t refer to anything about me as gendered’ that’s totally fine as well … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:32 PM |
| 11 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?No? Im saying that if you can’t advocate for mens issues without invalidating womens issues I think it’s shitty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:24 PM |
| 35 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Yes. Feminists can focus more on issues affecting predominately women, but to ignore the issues men face/invalidate them doesn’t jive with me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:23 PM |
| 1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I know this. My partner and I are non monogamous. But like…… not everyone wants to be? Which is fine. That’s pretty much it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 08:21 PM |
| 0 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I mean you are entitled to your preferences! Fair enough, you have particular standards for a woman. It’s not my place to tell you what sex you can and can’t have. As long as it’s legal, consensual, ethical, fun sex go ham. But while you have those standards, I don’t. So whole I appreciate your honesty, I don’t agree that I am less valuable now as someone whose had my fair share of casual sex. I think your view and my view can both exist at the same time. Some people prefer virgins, some people … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:10 PM |
| -1 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?I mean because they serve different purposes? Like I said: casual sex is momentary desire, fulfilling it right then. Monogamous sex is long term desire, affection, and intimacy. People can want a chocolate chip cookie before dinner. Like I can want a cookie now and still know I’ll enjoy my diner that night. Its ok because it’s different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:06 PM |
| 165 | Q4W: How would you view a man who is vocal about men's rights and struggles as a dating prospect?Hmmmm it depends. I love when people are passionate and engaged in important issues! He cares about mens mental health and how it’s overlooked? Awesome! He advocates for male DV and rape victims? Amazing! He is concerned with the fact that most homeless people are men? Great! But like….does he also support trans men? Does he blame women for mens issues? Does he not acknowledge womens issues? It’s ok if he has a focus on mens issues like as a woman I focus more on womens issues by default….but if… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 05:04 PM |
| -2 | If sex is so unimportant, why is monogamy so important?Because causal sex and monogamous sex aren’t the same. Casual sex by is something done casually for pleasure in the moment. Monogamous sex is an expression of intimacy as well as desire. The truth is sex is important and it isn’t. It differs from person to person throughout their lives. When sex is casual, it’s very much fulfilling a need you have in the moment. You’re both horny and both into it and you do it with no expectation of commitment or trust. In a monogamous relationship, sex can happ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/22 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?You’d know better than me my guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 02:25 PM |
| 2 | The Andrew Tate phenomenon shows that the mainstream responds very positively to "pill" ideas, but they are artificially suppressed by Western media companiesI mean they actually only proved less than that were false and then they said it may be up to 10% You really think the majority of women who report assaults are lying? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 04:58 AM |
| 1 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Me: people are different! You: I know better than you what all women want no exception ETA: never been disgusted by a man with emotions. Overwhelmed? Sure. But never disgusted | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/22 04:56 AM |
| 3 | The Andrew Tate phenomenon shows that the mainstream responds very positively to "pill" ideas, but they are artificially suppressed by Western media companiesOk! Just wanted clarification I thought the logical discrepancy (from my point of view) was kinda weird. Thanks for elaborating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 10:50 PM |
| 8 | The Andrew Tate phenomenon shows that the mainstream responds very positively to "pill" ideas, but they are artificially suppressed by Western media companiesI mean I figure that because many men on here hate that women do that, seeing a man who shares RP views using that scheme would feel kinda hypocritical | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 10:34 PM |
| 10 | The Andrew Tate phenomenon shows that the mainstream responds very positively to "pill" ideas, but they are artificially suppressed by Western media companiesYou realise that like, something like 5% of all reported rapes are false accusations? Common figures state that around 90% of all rapes go unreported, so most rapes aren’t being talked about. 5% of reported rapes (10% of all rapes being reported) is an extremely low number. Adding onto that, the chances of being convicted for a rape are staggeringly low. I’ll use UK statistics because Andrew tate is from the UK I believe? UK statistics are as follows: 1 in 4 women, 1 in 6 children, and 1 in 20 m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 10:33 PM |
| 2 | As a conventionally unattractive average height male should I even bother dressing nice?Hey so I’m probably the wrong person to ask because while I notice when a man dresses well it’s not ever been the BIGGEST thing for me. Usually my standards tend to be - are the clothes clean? Any obvious holes? Does the person look comfortable? Are THEY clean/well groomed? (Clean face and nails). If you don’t want to have to dress stylishly or in a certain aesthetic you don’t have too! It’s usually about how you carry yourself. Like I always have more attention to the guy in a clean tshirt and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 09:50 PM |
| 6 | The Andrew Tate phenomenon shows that the mainstream responds very positively to "pill" ideas, but they are artificially suppressed by Western media companiesWhat do you think of Tate admitting to using his webcam company to fleece men and admitting to it proudly/bragging about not caring at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 09:29 PM |
| 12 | The Andrew Tate phenomenon shows that the mainstream responds very positively to "pill" ideas, but they are artificially suppressed by Western media companiesI’ve definitely seen a lot content online and on TikTok directly calling him out for problematic shit - like him saying that part of the reason he moved to Romania was it is easier to get off on SA charges there. He said in the vid it was about ‘40%’ of the reason. Also his scam business using webcam models To get money out of men. That he admitted was a scam. ETA: my point being I think a lot of the views and content about him is stuff calling out his very extreme behaviour. ETA 2: Source for h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/22 09:21 PM |
| – | How Common Is This Crazy & Sad ScenarioIt seems like she just lost interest. I mean, you get it - you’re spinning so many plates you can’t keep equal interest in all of them. She worked out you weren’t what she was looking for and ghosted. I’m not sure you can get her back. Just let her leave. I hate your behaviour so don’t take anything I’m saying as endorsement. But yeah maybe just accept the bird has flown the coop | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/22 04:42 AM |
| 1 | What NON self-gratifying things do you look for in a woman?Ohhhh ok I’m picking up what you’re putting down | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 10:44 PM |
| 2 | What NON self-gratifying things do you look for in a woman?Budgeting is definitely necessary but I think we have different ideas on the lifestyle aspect. I enjoy my job so I’m the wrong person to ask but a lot of people don’t enjoy their work but have to do it anyway. Not everyone has equal access to education and opportunities to find a more secure job. When you’re minimum wage, budgeting will only get you so far. Cost of living is up, wages are stagnated and have been for ages, and housing is a mess. People should be able to afford decent health care,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 06:19 PM |
| 4 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Not much, you’re right, but an easy thing to do is try and educate people who think in that toxic way, and try and make people around you feel safe opening up I guess. It sucks that we don’t know what our partner will think til it happens, but if tomorrow my partner told me my emotions made me weak, I’d be sad but I’d at least have a new chance to find a better partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:28 PM |
| -3 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Part of the reason crying is seen as weak is because people perpetuate that narrative. I see a lot of comments on this subreddit telling men to be stoic and shit, no. If your partner can’t handle your crying, call them out on their sexist ideas about men crying. Advocate for mens mental health awareness. Let emotions exist without labelling them as burdens. I’m not saying you specifically do this btw. I don’t know how you feel about emotions and expressing yourself. My you was a general plural t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 04:10 PM |
| 1 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?I dunno, I’d say this isn’t a hard and fast rule. When I know my partner is upset and he doesn’t open up to me I actually get frustrated because I can’t help and I can’t do anything. I love when he talks to me about his problems. I love when he lets me in. I feel close to him and honoured that he trusts me with this stuff. And our sex life has never suffered for it. I think applying this rule to all people ignores that fact that people are different and want different things. I’d be devastated i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 03:32 PM |
| 0 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Why is crying weak? If you’re opening up to someone emotionally, that’s pretty fucking terrifying. Why is that weakness, to get help when you need? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 03:28 PM |
| 10 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?Oh I know I wasn’t obligated but I felt that way. If someone opens up like that it is hard to turn them away. I have a lot of compassion for that guy tbh - clearly, he was never given the tools to express his emotions and work through them in a healthy way. And it makes his life harder. And while he shouldn’t have tried to make me a therapist I understand that from his perspective, I was his chance to take some of the weight off of him. More than anything I hope he found help and counselling, an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 02:47 PM |
| 61 | Why is there a discrepancy in what men believe how women respond to men crying in relationships compared to what women believe how women respond?It depends on the woman and the man. A reasonable emotionally mature woman will not think badly of their partner for crying in reasonable circumstances. Emotions build up, crying is a cathartic release, and there are a lot of toxic narratives about crying being ‘weak’ but sometimes the hardest thing to do is he emotionally vulnerable, especially when you’re not sure of the other persons response. However some men (not all, some) will sometimes do this thing where they are so excited a woman allo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/22 12:52 PM |
| 3 | Pill ideology is irrelevant to most healthy people capable of successful relationships.I agree with that. If people wanted to commiserate about those experiences I’d been fine with it, but applying it to all women and all men is just so….reductive. It’s so ‘us v them’. Theres never room for women and men to grow and develop. It’s like they think we should all be defined by our choices when we were young and like, as a young person, young people are assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 12:27 PM |
| 1 | What NON self-gratifying things do you look for in a woman?I don’t get commissions but I am so fulfilled by my work. I fit bras in a growing specialty bra store and my boss values our time and pays us above minimum wage. Our customers come to us for help and we don’t sell if we don’t think it fits correctly. It’s surprisingly technical in some aspects and I feel very happy after every shift. Could I earn way more in a different job? Sure. But the motivation I get at my work is above and beyond anything I could ask for. We need retail services. Like I sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 12:19 PM |
| 3 | What NON self-gratifying things do you look for in a woman?Exactly! I work an amazing retail job where the small business has a lot of growth, requires technical knowledge, and more than anything it makes me happy :) As long as the pay is ok and the person is happy it doesn’t matter what job they work. These ‘dead end jobs’ are essential to our economy so looking down on them seems so silly to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 07:58 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Pill people, do you want a homebody?Worst hell to you but heaven to other people! There’s a song called ‘nothing’ by some Guy called Bruno major. And I resonate with it, because I love doing nothing with my partner. I love lazy sundays where he games and I cross stitch and we tidy together before watching some tv. Those days are beautiful to me, because we just get so much enjoyment out of being together, even if we are doing not much the whole time. Different strokes yknow? You love new experiences and going out and doing stuff. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Q4W - If you were a full time working woman and the sole income provider, and your husband was a Stay at home dad/ house husband, how much housework would you do?Hey so I can see why you’d see that but for a while I was supporting him more financially and earning more and this wasn’t so much an issue. And now that the roles are reversed it’s not an issue either. Maybe it’s also because we are both neurodivergent (ADHD for me, Autism for him) but we understand that each of us have different thresholds and different capabilities day to day. He hates cleaning. Despises it. So when I came home and the cleaning was done and he was relaxing I didn’t resent him… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 07:10 AM |
| 5 | Pill ideology is irrelevant to most healthy people capable of successful relationships.My issue with the whole ‘bad boys/settling down later with good men’ is predicated on the idea that women are manipulative users not that they just….grow emotionally. Our brains don’t finish developing until we’re 25. Our personalities are always evolving. Doesn’t it also make sense that women would like, learn from their mistakes or mature to a point where they no longer want what they did when they were 20? Like hell, at 16 I thought I wanted a bad boy. Then I dated one at 17. And I realised t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 07:04 AM |
| 6 | Pill ideology is irrelevant to most healthy people capable of successful relationships.But it’s not about FAIRNESS it’s about fucking virgin housewives who live on their knees to blow their husband every day and who would rather perish than have an iota of free will. How dare you deny all men this right! /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 06:55 AM |
| 11 | Pill ideology is irrelevant to most healthy people capable of successful relationships.Why…..why is having sex twice a day with a 10/10 18 yr old who feeds you your bar for a successful relationship? Success in a relationship looks like different things to different people. Successful relationships can just be healthy relationships between two people who help each other grow and who support each other, love each other, and bring each other joy? Like fuck, I’m not 18, I’m not a 10, and I don’t live to feed and fuck my partner, but our relationship is successful because we heal each… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 06:54 AM |
| 1 | Q4W - If you were a full time working woman and the sole income provider, and your husband was a Stay at home dad/ house husband, how much housework would you do?Thank you so much! I think every relationship is different but if anyone looks at this and gets ideas on how to handle it when one partner makes more then I’m happy. I’m really proud of how my partner and I work together to make things equitable. It’s not always easy but we can always make it simple. If that makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 06:49 AM |
| 2 | Q4W - If you were a full time working woman and the sole income provider, and your husband was a Stay at home dad/ house husband, how much housework would you do?Hahaha thanks! I won’t lie it took a while to get to that point (we’ve known each other a long time and been together for a long time and we weren’t always so healthy) but I’m pretty proud k Of how far we’ve come. Legit in the last three or so months our only argument was about who gets the last chocolate milk and that came down us misunderstanding each other so…..:p | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 06:47 AM |
| 22 | Would you wait to have sex until a relationship is formed?I know right? I’ve seen people here complain about high-n women, and also complain about women not having sex with them quickly enough. It’s like, which one do you want? Do you want all women to be very casual about sex or all women to be very serious about it? I see so many people here saying women who were casual don’t make good partners but if they really think that they shouldn’t be having casual sex. Honestly, I think some people here want to have casual sex and end up with a low-n woman, w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 06:46 AM |
| 1 | Would you wait to have sex until a relationship is formed?Hey so I get where you’re coming from! To you, you need to have sex with someone before committing to a relationship because you want to make sure you’re sexually compatible. That’s fine i understand that. She clearly wants to make sure you are relationship-compatible before having sex. Which I understand. She wants to know you are committed to her before she engages in sex. Your ‘normal’ is different from her ‘normal’. Neither is bad it’s just what you prefer. They don’t seem to match up. Have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/22 06:41 AM |
| 4 | Q4W - If you were a full time working woman and the sole income provider, and your husband was a Stay at home dad/ house husband, how much housework would you do?Unfortunately I have a tiny dog who tracks dirt like it’s her life’s mission to be a menace. We bathe and brush her often but she really loves digging near the chook pen so we gotta be on top of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/22 12:08 AM |
| 74 | Q4W - If you were a full time working woman and the sole income provider, and your husband was a Stay at home dad/ house husband, how much housework would you do?So my partner and I have actually discussed this before! We thought our possible system seemed pretty ideal - if I earned more and he stayed home, he’d be in charge of all the maintenance chores. I don’t mean home maintenance, but the daily sweeping, wiping, tidying, etc. When I got home we’d take care of any individual mess we made by picking up after ourselves, and mess made together would be cleaned together. Cooking would be a 60/40 split and whoever doesn’t cook does dishes. Laundry we neve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?So this is interesting! I’ll admit I was wrong on the deodarant thing (my b) but I want to point out until relatively recently, men actually dominated and controlled many businesses that catered to women. Fashion, cosmetics, skincare, etc, those were fields for women run by men. A great story i often remember is in the 20s a guy realised that if he marketed razors to women he’d make more money so he created the narrative of needing hairless legs. And BOOM an industry was created. It’s equalising… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:17 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Its definitely mad parasocial. If you’re a celebrity not so much because of our weird fascination with seeing famous people nude, but most creators make a big chunk of change by fulfilling commissions and private chats with their fans. Building a ‘connection’ with them. People want to feel like they matter especially when they’re funnelling in cash, so many creators who aren’t famous have to perform the MAD emotional labour of creating some kind of ‘bond’ with fans and tread the careful line of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:07 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?That’s uh….an interesting take on gay men you have there. Gay men are just men who like men. The queer environment is in a lot of ways more liberated sexually than heteronormative spaces so yeah more sex does happen I guess but I wouldn’t say it had anything to do with them not having core moral philosophical frameworks. I guess it depends on HOW you define morality though. Personally for me morality is just - are you hurting anyone? Is what you’re doing consensual and ethical? Yeah? Cool. If we… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:00 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Ahhh then yeah I think we are coming from a similar place. Like can anyone do it? Sure. But anyone can draw too technically provided they have the tools. But no one is paying for my shitty stick figure if they can get a gorgeous fully shaded custom artwork. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Oh I’m so sorry did I offend you! What a pity, I did ask you to expand on your viewpoint only for you stonewall and then jab at me, obviously I was the problem here mea culpa. I can’t fathom what came over me. But seriously I did ask for you to share your perspective and you refused. I wasn’t the problem here. I just got snarky about it. Sorry for not quietly kowtowing! I’ll be sure to take a good long look in the mirror about it sometime, promise xx ETÀ: if someone asks for you to expand and yo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:50 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?You don’t know enough about me to make that call but thanks for your weird insistence that I find out your unknowable and vague perspective. Just realised you were making a dig about me not actually finding out. I’m happy with that. You don’t seem like a happy person and I’m faring well with my perspective now. But cheers for the veiled insults and strange comments! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Like sure women could cut out i necessary costs by not buying skincare, makeup, or shopping only in the mens section, but alas Society has created multiple industries which tell women they need these things even if they don’t want them, and some women just enjoy shit like skincare. ETA: point being I’m not seeing how it would average out costs that much, especially considering things like editing subscriptions for content, outfits and props for shoots, and the maintenance necessary for success/a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:34 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Because most people aren’t making anywhere close to that……? Even if we wrongly assume that the bottom 90% of creators get an even split of the remaining 27% of profits, it’s only like 30ish bucks a month. But that’s not how it works so many don’t even get that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:33 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?For my sake I hope that place remains a mystery | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Ahhhh you just came here to snark. Good for you! It’s good to do the things that make us happy. Im gonna say your answer makes no sense though but it’s nice you participated anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:52 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?I mean if you don’t think it’s worth discussing I gotta wonder why you’re here discussing it :p | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?I mean they aren’t making that much tho - If 73% of all revenue is being made by the top 10% of creators, the remaining percentage averages OUT to $30 a month but there’s no way they are having an even split. Its more like, the top 10% make the most, then likely the next 10% are making a little, the next 10% even less and the remaining bottom 70% is earning very little at all. Its not a viable career is all I’m saying, at least not in the way many people on this subreddit think, I see a lot of a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:48 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?I mean the statistics show it isn’t easy to be successful - 73% of all the takings is made by 10% of creators. There are 1.35 million creators making barely anything. But yeah if you’re doing it it’s easier than other jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:42 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Cool my next question is - care to expand? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:40 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?I literally was just pointing out that the narrative of it being easy money is false as most people don’t make the money but thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Do you believe the military isn’t difficult work? I don’t agree with the military but the training alone and the chances of severe mental scarring mean I have some sympathy for people who choose it….like the benefits do not outweighs the possible negatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Good for you! I’ve seen these views expressed here before though so clearly the question isn’t in your wheelhouse :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?I mean easy in terms of the time going into building a profitable base, keeping your content interesting and engaging and the money you get out of it. Lots of people here say any attractive girl can make big bucks off onlyfans. Clearly they can’t. So I’m wondering if the figures change anything. I never said it was easy compared to other jobs, just in terms of energy versus profit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:36 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?? I mean this is a debate sub. I’ve seen lots of people on this sub across many posts talk about how OF is easy money for any girl. Just wondered their thoughts after finding these stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 02:35 PM |
| 4 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Would you expand on why you think it’s easy? In my opinion, as someone who has researched this quite a lot, it’s not a simple thing. The steps as I see it, are these: 1: be attractive. 2: Build a social media following on either twitter, TikTok, or Insta (or some combo of at least two) 2a: Building a platform requires consistent high quality posting so you’ll need a high quality phone/camera or both, editing know-how, a ring light, makeup skills as well as content ideas. 1 high quality pic might… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:38 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Providing each of those women have both breasts, 70 million to be exact :p But yeah considering the number of people on OF and the number of successful creators, clearly it’s more than just looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Hey so while I appreciate the advice with dating it’s misplaced I believe! Maybe you meant it as general advice and not personalised but for the record: I have a partner. I don’t have OF. If I did he wouldn’t care depending on the content. But as I don’t want or have an OF that is a moot point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:30 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?People can be shamed but that doesn’t change the fact that someone suffered. If my ex emailed my nudes to my work, my friends, my family, and my colleagues, he would definitely be in trouble. But I’d still be dealing with the fallout of having that stuff plastered around. Or for a real life example - look up ‘woman fired onlyfans’ and you’ll see a bunch of stories about women being fired for having the platform. Mind you, OF does have programs in place to stop people sharing pics and videos from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Sharing is caring my guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:21 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Oh yeah. If any hot woman could make even an average yearly salary posting shower selfies every hot woman on earth would be doing it and doing great. And yet the narrative persists that all a hot girl has to do is make an OF and she’ll be rich. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:19 AM |
| 2 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?1000% I just see comments across this subreddit saying a hot girl can post low effort pics on onlyfans and make bank so I decided to see if presenting the facts would make people think differently. Its had….mixed results | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:18 AM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?No no I understand completely how OF works, the costs involved, the emotional labour involved, niche fetish content, good social media management, etc. I just see a lot of comments from people here saying ‘oh just a few low quality pics and you get a paycheck’ which is a fundamental misunderstanding of how it all works so I posted money stats to see if men who saw that would still think the same. There’s this weird narrative that it’s somehow not a huge effort. It’s only not a huge effort if you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 10:17 AM |
| 1 | “Fat-phobia” is mostly due to women.To me, fat phobia is something that isn’t exactly like an OVERT thing in real life, but a very insidious subtle thing people will perpetuate be accident. At 20, my birth control made me gain MASSIVE amounts of weight. My grandmother looked at a picture of me at 16 once and said “you used to be so beautiful”. The same year, she looked at my sister (who was a US size 2) and me (a US size 8) and said to my sister ‘you have a gorgeous figure’ and to me ‘you have a lovely face’. Like we look very sim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:33 AM |
| 2 | “Fat-phobia” is mostly due to women.Let’s also not forget that until recent years the idea of ‘fat’ was really warped. Bridget Jones in Bridget Jones diary was fat. Raven Symone on ‘that’s so raven’ was fat (there was a whole episode about a magazine airbrushing her to look thinner). If you weren’t ‘thin’ you were fat. It was a binary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Could you expand if possible? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:17 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Yeah I agree! Its always hard to break into any creative field or content creation field. Which is why I posted this - one guy still commented here saying ‘OF is easy 100k a month for posting a pic of your butthole’ Like sure SOME people are going to make that, but the top earners have built in fanbases from months/years of building an online persona anyway. Its not as simple as ‘post ass = profit’ Its create social media presence + build following + post regularly + advertise OF + post on OF as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:11 AM |
| 3 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?OF revenue is based on any money going through the site - including tips and paying for DMs. If you’re paying for a subscription, OF takes 20%. If you pay extra for a custom request or tip, OF also takes that 20% ETA: So even if I were to agree most OF are somehow average or below, I think you’re forgetting the cost of maintaining your appearance as well as the necessary things you need to have good content. The average woman in 2017 would spend around $317 on her appearance. https://www.byrdie.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:09 AM |
| 4 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?Thanks! I definitely hate the rhetoric of “it’s easy any pretty woman can make like $100k a year” because obviously a Bunch of people are trying and making Jack shit. It seems like people WANT to believe it’s easy just so they can say ‘oh women have it so easy because they can do XYZ’. Like sure, any person is capable of making an account and content, but the numbers show you gotta put some work into it and even then you’ve got no guarantee of success, even moderate success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:03 AM |
| 11 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Even with statistics above showing that most people don’t make anywhere near those numbers, you still think it’s easy and worth it? Considering the time going into promoting your page (no search function you need a direct creator link to OF so you need a health social media presence which most people agree isn’t like, a nothing job) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 08:02 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Oh definitely! But that’s my point - I see a lot of people saying it IS easy for a normal hot girl to do it and thought I’d post my evidence saying otherwise to show it isn’t and see what people had to say. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:50 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?Oh definitely I just see a lot of comments being like ‘it’s so easy etc etc’ and found a lot of evidence to the contrary so I thought I’d put it all here. The post that inspired it had the OP say something like he wished he could get 10k a month for just swinging his dick around (his words) and seeing as it’s highly unlikely even a hot girl makes that much money I thought I’d see if the numbers made any men think differently. I personally don’t care what people do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:49 AM |
| 6 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?See it’s the ‘potentially low effort’ thing that I think trips a lot of people up. To take a good pic you need a high quality phone or camera, a ring light, multiple shots and angles, outfits, makeup, concept and execution, editing, possible makeup skills. I don’t think it’s as low effort as we think. Honestly I think if you’re a celebrity with the knowledge you’ll always have people wanting to see you naked it can be low effort, but if you’re an average hot girl you need to keep people engaged … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?So your argument is that the majority of creators who aren’t earning are doing it for an ego boost. Seeing as by these stats it’s unlikely that the average hot girl would have a dozen ‘simps’ do you stand by that statement? Personally it would be easier to just post on Instagram surely - I know regular girls with 1000 followers who just post selfies and thirst traps and can get that validation there without having to put in the time and effort to make and advertise an OF. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:15 AM |
| 7 | Q4Men: Do you genuinely think OF is easy/worth it?I mean considering the effort, time, and money that goes into creating a marketable platform to start advertising OF, its a lot of work before you even begin to start making content. I mean even if we assume only 40% of OF creators are active and earning money, looking at the numbers, the 30% earners under the top 10% are still only taking home 27% of the profit. So roughly, 450,000 creators are taking home part of the remaining 526.5 mill. Which comes down to $1170 USD per year, or $123 a month… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:13 AM |
| 9 | Do you enjoy pegging or any other sexually dominant sex with a man? Or do you only do it because it's what gets him off and you just go with it?I mean it’s just fun watching a partner enjoy themselves. If I’m doing the sex (which I’ve been known to do occasionally) I like making sure my partner is having a good time. Watching them have fun is a huge turn on. Sex is supposed to be something that’s mutually enjoyed, and sometimes the enjoyment comes from helping your partner have a great time and knowing you’re the cause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 06:06 AM |
| 1 | You are not ugly, you are not genetically cursed, start looksmaxing, fuck the black-pill take the white-pillNo worries! I get coming over from PPD it’s easy to assume anyone engaging with you means they are on the opposite view/attacking you. Fuck knows I’ve assumed that a bunch in the pst! Hopefully here we can break that habit. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/22 05:28 AM |
| 2 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?I mean, the average isn’t even a good indicator. The average as I said earlier is $150-$180. But that average includes the fact that some creators earn millions and most earn nothings. Again, with 10% of people earning 73% of profit, that’s not a lot leftover. And if you look at top creator rankings, you see that with each rank it’s lower and lower. Good illustration is the top creator last year earned 29 mill and the 10th earned 4 mill. The top 1% of creators earned 33% of the total revenue alo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 05:26 AM |
| 9 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?So I’ve already posted a giant comment further down on why this isn’t true. It’s statistically unlikely that you’ll make much money on onlyfans. 10% of creators (150,000 roughly) make 73% of all revenue. Even if you were to divide the remaining 27% of revenue equally between the other 1.35mill creators you get $390 annually. It’s not easy. It’s a lot of work. You gotta be an active poster on social media platforms to build a base, then an active user on OF to build a good following. A lot of mon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 05:20 AM |
| 1 | You are not ugly, you are not genetically cursed, start looksmaxing, fuck the black-pill take the white-pillThanks for explaining. I don’t think I expressed particular support for anything in my comment, just asked you to explain! :) Sorry if I misunderstood you, it just seemed like you were asking me specifically if I wanted to die on the hill of casual relationships. | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/22 05:13 AM |
| 6 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?It’s not the bare minimum though is it? You gotta do a couple of things. Firstly you need to build a fan base. The best way of doing this is through social media followings. OF doesn’t have a search function built in, so people need to have a direct creator link. So you need to have a good following on either twitter, Insta, or TikTok. Probably all 3 for max reach. So that means you need to be able to stay on top of trends, know how to leverage your analytics, be a good creator (so at minimum be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 05:09 AM |
| 3 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?I think this is a fairly balanced view of the situation - it is POSSIBLE to be successful on only fans, but considering that out of the 1.5 million creators, the top 150,000 (10%) of creators make almost 3/4 of all revenue, the chances are extremely slim. It’s a combo of creativity, hustle, skill, knowing the market, and above all - luck. You can’t just be savvy at OF, you also have to be good at other social media too. You gotta build platforms on at least one site if not 2 or 3, and promote Ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:44 AM |
| 1 | You are not ugly, you are not genetically cursed, start looksmaxing, fuck the black-pill take the white-pillGenuinely asking here: what about current media would you change? Do you mean not depicting casual relationships? Would you also depict things like ethical non-monogamy? With media, if it’s an adaptation of stories from different times or cultures with different values, how would you go about ensuring those standards could be met while roughly following the source material? What relationship skills would you have taught and how would they be taught? What do you mean by the science of romance? I … | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/22 04:38 AM |
| 8 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?Careful, if the men find out we aren’t a monolith, they won’t be able to make gross, generalised stereotypes about us guilt free and this subreddit will stop existing. :p | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:24 AM |
| 1 | You are not ugly, you are not genetically cursed, start looksmaxing, fuck the black-pill take the white-pillI’m all for changing the system I’m just pointing out for many people they choose get bitter. Yeah look people are asses for assuming shit but unfortunately a lot of changing the system revolves around how you present your ideas for change. And a persons own outlook on the world. For an extreme example: I’ve seen someone argue that the way to solve the issue of men feeling sexless/alone is to cap the hours a woman can work per week so they HAVE to depend on a man and create a relationship with a… | /r/AllPillDebate | 31/07/22 04:21 AM |
| 14 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?I’d disagree - you need (at LEAST) the following: Decent recording and filming gear (so a high quality phone or more likely, a decent camera with a microphone, lighting) Decent editing software. Time to create and edit your content. So let’s say at least a day to prepare, create/film, and edit your content for the week. A place to film. Multiple outfits, toys, and if you’re doing fetish stuff you need the equipment for that. If you’re catering to feeders you need to constantly be making or buyin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?I’ve got some reasons as someone who has considered sex work/Only Fans! 1: Effort. To actually succeed in onlyfans you need to be very active. Many top only fans creators who aren’t celebrities/influencers make the majority of their income from private chats and commissions. Chatting isn’t hard per se, but sex work over chat requires building a sort of relationship with the person paying. You have to actively engage with people so they feel like they’re getting their moneys worth and pay/keep pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 04:02 AM |
| 12 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?So I can’t find a specific source for $200 a month but I found a bunch of statistics that show a similar idea. There are about 1.5 million onlyfans creators according to this source and several others. Source below. https://earthweb.com/onlyfans-statistics/ That source says that the top 1% of creators earn 33% of the total revenue for the site, and that the average earnings for an onlyfans account is between $150-$180 USD per month. This article has a quote from one of the top creators specifyin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 03:35 AM |
| 0 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?I’ll address my point: there are women who want to work those jobs but are driven out by cultures of harassment. I don’t deny there is definitely far less women willing to work those jobs than men, but if you want more women in those roles to at least try and equalise things, why wouldn’t you want to address the thing many female apprentices cite as a reason they left the work? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 08:43 AM |
| 1 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?I mean again I’m gonna refer you to the survey of female apprentices where the 50% of women who dropped out cited bullying and harassment. It wouldn’t mean ALL women would want those jobs, but it means MORE women would. ETA: you say if this were true we’d see more efforts of women trying to change the culture. There is some effort! There are multiple programs where I’m from to support and help female tradies, and offer resources, but they can’t change the culture when they aren’t the ones contri… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/22 04:58 AM |
| 5 | You are not ugly, you are not genetically cursed, start looksmaxing, fuck the black-pill take the white-pillI think it’s when things feel unfair, or a system feels unfair, there are a couple of key reactions: Get better (try and join the unfair system but in a way that favours you) Get bitter (wallow in the misery and don’t change anything) Or change the system. I think getting bitter is the easiest choice for a lot of people. While it’s true that there are just some things you can’t change, I think one thing you can always try and change is your attitude. | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/07/22 04:57 AM |
| 4 | Anyone notice a lot of people IRL are redpilled?I actually ran into one recently….a friend of a friend. I was actually discussing my hobby of trawling PPD and the guy in question (who I will name Harry) told me he identified with RP mentally but he would never assume to apply the theories to all women or all men. We had an interesting discussion, where he talked about how rejection in high school made him feel very bitter and he started thinking these things on his own and had no idea there was an internet theory created around it. But then h… | /r/AllPillDebate | 29/07/22 04:52 AM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Oh hi again Bruce! Wow you really like me tonight huh? I’ve never had someone’s name pop up so many times in my notifications! :) Maybe read the rest of my convo with Sigma1979, watch us disagree and politely exchange ideas, before parting ways without being mad but rather appreciating the opportunity to have had a discussion. You might be surprised, I actually gasp learn something and we both had a good time chatting. It’s almost like people can have extremely different views but still talk abo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?…..? No? I’m saying more women would enter these jobs if they weren’t harassed, and the best way to fix that is changing the culture of harassment ETA: like an hour later I’m still confused as to why it’s bad I want women to not be harassed on worksites. Like, I’ve seen people often complain on this sub that women don’t do these jobs, and yet when I offer a reason why and suggest a solution it’s rejected? What’s your solution, just…force women to do jobs where they will be discriminated against … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?Actually the study said all the female apprentices said they were harassed: they cited bullying, sexual harassment, and discrimination. You’re asking me to choose between a job where I’ve got a 60% chance of being harassed on average, where I have a toilet, and also where I’ll more likely be seen as competent. Or a job where I’m almost 100% guaranteed to be harassed as an apprentice, and I also have a 40% chance Of not getting a toilet, as well as a 33% chance of my boss thinking I’m not capable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:45 PM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Seeing as most times I come in contact with these views, they are angry and often hateful, and often are used to talk badly about women….is it unsurprising that I am unwelcome to entertain this school of thought? You don’t catch flies by slapping them. You just hurt the flies. My issue isn’t that this school of thought exists. I accept that some women are like this. However my issue lies in your inability to accept my lived experience as much as you expect me to accept your view of my reality. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:37 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Ahahah I can definitely do shrill but I tend to save that for when people approach my arguments or ideas in an insulting or demeaning manner. While I definitely got heated in my responses, I never felt like I was being talked down to here, just that we disagreed. But ultimately this is a debate sub. We exchanged our ideas, and you allowed room for nuance and didn’t make absolute statements and were generally pretty measured. Of the two of us I definitely got carried away. Thankyou again for an i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:13 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I mean, if someone wants their ass kissed and is blaming men that’s the opposite of good faith. If someone disagrees but is open to hearing your opinion and takes the opportunity to reply and explain their side, that’s good faith. A great example is our little convo! I made a point, you disagreed. However you disagreed in bad faith. Because even though I said I try and be open to good faith arguments, your argument wasn’t a point it was an insult. Not trying to be condescending, just pointing ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:06 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I’ll accept its a spectrum. I may not agree with all your points but I can accept a spectrum. From personal experience, when I liked ‘bad boys’ I liked the IDEA of them because I was 16 and media at the time romanticised a bad boy who changed for the right girl. Then at 17 I dated my version of a ‘bad boy’ (a 21 yr old coworker who bought me drinks in bars, smoked heavily, and apart from that seemed fine) and got traumatised from his actions and decided never again. So while I can agree to a spe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:03 PM |
| 2 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?That’s the thing! It’s quite frequently presented as women being evil and heartless. I think I responded to some other guy with comments from this post just shitting on women using a toxic interpretation of AF/BB. I don’t agree with AF/BB as a rule because I think a lot of it can be attributed to the fact that as women mature (our brains aren’t done developing until 25) we prioritise different things and fall in love with people who reflect our more solid life paths. I think women can and DO set… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:00 PM |
| 2 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?So I did reply to your other request for ‘proof’ and these are all from this singular post! “Women will simp for ANY man just as long as he’s good looking” (With a link to an article about tiktokers simping for a criminal). “I’m supposed to work my ass off to become rich and have status… just to attract women who had their fun in their early 20s with guys they found attractive and now want to settle down for an LTR? ….I’d rather fuck prostitutes. At least the transaction relationships is honest … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:54 PM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Hey I have my fun examples! All comments from this post which might explain why I would assume you have such a negative view of women! “Women will simp for ANY man just as long as he’s good looking” (With a link to an article about tiktokers simping for a criminal). “I’m supposed to work my ass off to become rich and have status… just to attract women who had their fun in their early 20s with guys they found attractive and now want to settle down for an LTR? ….I’d rather fuck prostitutes. At lea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:51 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I’m so glad you asked for examples! I’m gonna go gather a selection of comments which will show you why I have this impression of the way men here view women. I’ll reply to this comment in a mo, and to prove I’m not making it up I’ll even send you the screenshots. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:31 PM |
| 0 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?I mean you cherry picked my one point about toilets and uniforms and didn’t address the fact that all the apprentices were sexually harassed. It’s not exactly a safe environment for women to work. No wonder we aren’t frothing at the mouth to get to it ETA: I don’t know where you’re from but bathrooms are a guarantee here at workplaces and in worksites. So like, even if men can go behind a tree they don’t have too. Women don’t have that option so again bathroom doesn’t feel like a bit ask? And I’… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:29 PM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?My guy, common beliefs about womens dating behaviour say that we are Hypergamous. The whole alpha fucks beta buxx thing. Hypergamous covers gold-digging (marrying for status) as well as cruelty as it says we settle for men to just looks after us while actually wanting some alpha archetype. Does that not project an image of a shallow, unempathetic gold-digger to you? Or am I misunderstanding it. Happy for you to expand if that’s the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:28 PM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Here’s the thing: if you claim women are by nature, as I’ve seen them portrayed here, as shallow, unempathetic, gold-diggers….you’re saying they are intrinsically shitty. Those are not nice or desirable traits to most people. By saying we are MOSTLY like that with FEW exceptions, you’re saying most women are essentially crappy. For your second point: see above. Happy to amend my post to say most to better reflect your answer. But you can’t argue that the things said about women here are unbiased… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:04 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Your original article (specifically the highlighted white) specifically mentioned gangs and weapons in fights, hence why I brought up risk taking in lower socio-economic areas, where that violence is unfortunately more common. So my point still stands - the criminal you chose to you highlight with that embedded quote isn’t smeared in some aphrodisiac that makes women insanely horny, it’s just chances are the people around him engage in riskier behaviour. So you move to the middle class drug deal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:59 PM |
| 2 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I meant the men I argue with here who call me that stuff. Unfortunately I don’t alway word myself the best before my meds kick in, but Thankyou for pointing it out! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:44 PM |
| 2 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I’m sorry you’ve had those negative experiences. It’s super unfair to judge someone on their sexual experience, whether they’ve had a lot or none. Especially when having either extreme is such a source of anxiety in a relationship anyway. It’s not fair. Sounds like you’ve had some experiences with some pretty emotionally immature women and I’m sorry for that. Your feelings are always important because In the end they are YOUR feelings. They’re only ever an ‘issue’ (for lack of a better word! I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:43 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I don’t know what part of this you’re replying too. Could you clarify? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:33 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?So your argument is, women sleep with criminals more than nice guys. I want to point out that while criminals might get more sex, that doesn’t mean that more women are sleeping with them? Looking at low-income areas where people are more likely to turn to crime, you also see higher rates of teen pregnancy and lower rates of education. Criminals aren’t getting more sex because they are criminals. They’re in areas where there is less education and higher amounts of risk taking behaviour? I don’t d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:24 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I read that article, top to bottom. Then I also found this article which both supports and disproves your theory. https://theconversation.com/amp/do-women-really-go-for-bad-boys-heres-the-science-that-settles-the-question-59409 I’d like to draw your attention to the part on narcissists and dating, specifically the fact that they make getter short term impressions. (Also bear in mind this article also says men who put more effort into their appearance and women who wear makeup or show cleavage ra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:08 PM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Give me the solid statistical data that show that most women are gold-digging, shallow, unempathetic beings by nature and I promise to read it with an open mind. Having done cursory research, the best support for hypergamy I found was a study by a Yue Quian done in Sweden where ‘highly credentialed alpha females’ practiced hypergamy. Are most women alpha females? Seems unlikely but feel free to give me statistics if you find them. Funnily enough, I found a Forbes article where millennial men wer… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 04:00 PM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Oof my guy, if you think that this sub is a microcosm that represents all of humanity that is an issue. For all that many people use reddit, many more don’t. We’re all a bit odd here - for crying out loud we’re in a subreddit ‘debating’ about pill theories. That’s not exactly mainstream behaviour in the real world. It’s unfortunate that many people on here who do not believe the things you do react with anger to your views. Mind you, a lot of RP views cast women as some sort of weird succubi who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 03:36 PM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Nah see I can accept there are shitty women. You can’t accept all women aren’t shitty. My worldview has space for yours. Your worldview doesn’t have space for me being human. That’s the difference :) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 03:31 PM |
| 3 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?Ok so im confused: men don’t have to ask for these considerations because these considerations are already provided. They have a toilet. They have uniforms designed for their bodies. Having ill fitting uniforms are at best uncomfortable and at worst a huge hindrance when doing manual labour. Is it unreasonable for these women to want the same treatment as the male employees? Like a uniform that fits and a toilet isn’t special treatment. Seeing as women on worksites are harassed a LOT having a fe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 03:30 PM |
| 2 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I mean I only can speak from my experience but my partner is no longer insecure because he trusts and loves me enough to know if I wanted that attention I’d go out and get it. But I don’t. I want him. I mean my partner and I are also open, and he has legit proof that I prefer him over casual hookups because I don’t go looking for casual hookups (I tell him to go often though because I’m not selfish enough to keep him all to myself he’s genuinely too good). And when I do go looking, it’s never me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?Women are about 2/3rds as strong as men. https://www.livestrong.com/article/509536-muscular-strength-in-women-compared-to-men/ We do take longer to build muscle than men however. We might not be able to lift as your strongest worker, but that doesn’t mean women aren’t capable of any manual work. Sure some shit will be too heavy for one woman to carry alone. That’s where having….other women to help would probably come in handy. So women are capable of manual labour. But in terms of sheer strength… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 12:19 PM |
| 0 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?We can disagree definitely. That’s what debate is, right? Disagreement, present argument, see what makes sense. I try and empathise with reasonable struggles. If someone thinks they are entitled to sex? Im not empathising because as an SA survivor I first hand know what happens when men feel like the deserve something I don’t want to give. But if their struggle is they are harshly judged on their looks and find it hard to connect with people because of it? Oh yeah I’ll empathise all the way that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 10:53 AM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Oh definitely and I try snd be prepared but like….it’s one thing for people to be like ‘I’ve had a different experience that doesn’t match yours’. It’s another for people to say ‘you’re lying’. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 10:50 AM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?How do you define ‘settling?’ I actually just asked my partner this: has he ever thought he settled? Once or twice was his response, years ago, when implanon made me an entirely different person. He admitted he’d thought then in the darkest moments that he could do better. But he said he also thought, more often, that I could do better than him. I was honest, same as him. Once or twice, but not in the way he thinks. I thought his behaviour wasn’t what I deserved, but I wanted him. I have the bes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 10:48 AM |
| 6 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I mean I insert myself because men go ‘this never happens’ and I say ‘I am proof that it does’ then they say ‘no! You lie!’ Lived experience is a useful tool. If none of us can use lived experience and only rely on statistics and research articles, this would be a very different sub. EDIT: also, sometimes people will project values into things they know nothing about. I’ve seen comments where people say all women with ‘not chad’ men are using them because beta buxx or whatever. How do they know … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 09:17 AM |
| 2 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I mean then you’re not the issue. If you genuinely see women as human, acknowledge their struggles, and accept we aren’t all terrible pieces of garbage, then you’re not an issue. And when I run into a person here who genuinely wants to debate and discuss and empathise I offer them that in return. Even if their views are different to mine, if they are coming from a good faith place and are open to learning, they get all the empathy in the world I can offer. The truth is: life is fairly shit for e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 09:11 AM |
| 8 | Would men and women be better off separated into neighboring monogender societies?So about the blue collar jobs thing…. Where I’m from, there was a government study to investigate why 50% of female apprentices to trades dropped out. Everyone woman they talked to cited bullying and harassment. A third of the employers for apprentices didn’t believe that women could do the job as well as men. And something like 40% of the women couldn’t even get work clothes that fit and didn’t have access to a female bathroom. Women in male-dominated fields suffer more harassment (sexual and o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 07:21 AM |
| 1 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?Some of us are really trying my guy, and I appreciate your empathy, but Jesus is it tiring to always be polite and respectful to people who call me names and tell my I’m lying about my own life. I’ll try and always approach with empathy or at least an open mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 07:14 AM |
| 6 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?It fucking kills me that these men ask us for respect while offering us none. And I mean kill in the painful, not funny sense. Respect goes both ways. I can’t respect someone when they’re talking about how I’m a whore who doesn’t really love my partner because I had a moderate amount of sex before we dated. They complain we don’t consider their lived experience, but if our lived experience differs from their views, we are lying. Full stop. There’s no nuance in their world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:49 AM |
| 4 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I mean, ugly men also want hot women. It’s not wrong to desire hot people, but it is wrong to be personally offended that you’re not everyone’s type. Like - an i attracted to certain hot men? I mean, sure. But I know I’m likely not their type, and as long as they aren’t dicks about it, it’s fine. I still exist. You can be upset if you aren’t the beauty norm but when you start being toxic about it, all you’re doing is adding another trait that people will use against you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:33 AM |
| 43 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I think it’s fair to want women to accept that dating is harder for men who aren’t genetically lucky/financially blessed. Most women will accept that truth. But as a woman on this sub I’d love for the conversations to not be so toxic to women in general. It’s always about how we are all shrews who fuck hot guys and ‘settle’ for other ones. We’re all toxic and hateful. We are only attracted to qualities X/Y/Z and if we say otherwise we are lying. There are some horribly toxic women out there, but… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:30 AM |
| 2 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?The issue is, many men here will take the shittiest women as examples that we are ALL like this. I think it’s horribly counter productive. Men yell ‘not all men’ about rape but if we say ‘actually women aren’t all like that’ we’re told we’re lying. It’s a deep hypocrisy that I struggle to contend with. I try and approach conversations here with an open mind but feel that many people here don’t want to engage in debate, they just want a punching bag. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:24 AM |
| 4 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?I think that is a reductive take and is based on an idea that women don’t care about their partners. SOME people settle. Other people don’t. The idea that every woman dating someone ‘beneath’ them in looks is settling is stupid. Do attractive men/wealthy men have a better chance of finding a partner? Yes. But while on dating apps women will do the whole 80/20 thing, in real life women aren’t as shallow. It’s easy to be shallow with pictures involved, when the person isn’t real to you. But like, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:20 AM |
| 10 | So what do men want women to say / do when they face continuous rejection?To piggy back off of this, I had a whole convo in a different thread on here where I said while we can have preferences you shouldn’t shame people who fall outside them (this was about n-counts, specifically women with them). I said that it’s fine to have a preference for a low n-count, and that it’s totally reasonable to not date outside that preference, but to just shame women with high n-counts is counter productive and mean. And a guy legit suggested that we shame more women so they have low… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 06:16 AM |
| 1 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?I mean the articles I read sad that they had no evidence but if you have different stuff show me I’ll read with an open mind :) However even if we are exactly like animals, I still think if people don’t like being called a certain word, it’s polite to just not use it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/22 05:47 AM |
| 1 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beDo what you want as long as you’re not being dick. Like I can turn a guy down if I want, yes? That’s my prerogative. If I wanted, I could be a real bitch about it. Also my prerogative. But it’s not nice to be mean for no good reason so I’m not mean. I just politely turn them down. We don’t exist in a vacuum and our words and actions can and do hurt other people. So while you are free to turn down someone who doesn’t meet your standards, the second you act like an ass about it, your just being un… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:30 PM |
| 1 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beProvided he’s not throwing around words like ‘dirty’ or ‘used-up’ or ‘community pussy’ or anything similar, he can do what he wants. I’ll do what I want. And we will part ways neutrally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:08 PM |
| 1 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problemsMy partners main problem was that he was funny (still is) but had troubles navigating boundaries about what was ok to joke about. It was pretty often he’d joke about stuff that was inappropriate, and he’d get pretty frustrated because everyone has a different line so how are you supposed to know what’s acceptable and what isn’t? He mostly learned from observation. He stopped using his humour as the only tool in his box and tried to develop his ability to engage more in other ways, like through l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:01 PM |
| 3 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beYou mistake me! I don’t care what people say about me at all. Like, go ham. I DO however take issue with people shaming others because I just think it’s rude and shitty behaviour. Maybe I don’t care, but other people will feel bad and I don’t like people being rude for no reason. While I appreciate you sharing your experience, I think you misunderstand my mission. People can insult me all they want. I don’t care what they’re saying, I just find rude behaviour like shaming to be indicative of low… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 03:52 PM |
| 3 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI mean maybe I won’t convince people not too but I do love pointing out that it’s shitty behaviour :) And I’m still pretty happy even when I’m on my little mission, but Thankyou so much for expressing concern about my mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 03:33 PM |
| 1 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?Enjoy your preferences, you like what you like, but there’s no need to be mean to people who don’t share those ideals. You prefer low n-count women! Amazing! Good for you. You call higher n-count women damaged or consider them less than? Not super cool. Really quite gross. They aren’t hurting you by having sex, no need to degrade them just because they like what you dont. As long as the sex is ethical, consensual, legal, safe, and fun, do what you want! Also the study specifically said the floor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 02:49 PM |
| 2 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?Quotes from the article: When it comes to sex before marriage, a lot may be better than a little. (Opening line) ……… New research suggests that women who had exactly two sexual partners (their husbands and one other person) were more likely to divorce than those who had either just one partner or many more. This was true, at least, during the 1980s and 1990s. ……….. "In short: If you're going to have comparisons to your husband, it's best to have more than one," study author Nicholas Wolfinger, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 02:34 PM |
| 3 | It's impossible for murder to be the leading cause of death among pregnant womanIf you read the top comment thread, it shows OP misunderstood the statistics and had an ‘ohhhh’ moment when they realised that yeah, it’s possible. So your rant is uh…..invalid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 02:27 PM |
| 0 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?Thanks for the honesty! I personally think ‘firsts’ are fairly overrated because to me, it matters more about enjoyment than any sort of conquering unknown territory. Like, my partner had his firsts before me and I cared when I was 18, but these days I just care that we enjoy our time together. I get a lot of ‘emotional’ firsts with him, and him with me. But everyone is different. As long as your not pushing your standards onto others it’s your call what you want! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 02:12 PM |
| 1 | What issues do you actually feel for women about?I mean….periods can be extremely crippling. I regularly get cramps so bad I throw up from the pain. And I have a GREAT pain tolerance. When I had a kidney infection I was so cheerful and functional that my parents didn’t think I was that sick until I was so dehydrated I couldn’t even keep water down without throwing up. I went six days with insane lower back pain before I was taken to hospital because my attitude and pain tolerance were so good that we just didn’t think anything was wrong. But o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 02:09 PM |
| 1 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?I mean….there’s no more ‘first’ first times but they are firsts with YOU. You said you considered yourself a catch. Would you have been annoyed if a woman you were dating didn’t consider the sex you had as special or meaningful because you’d had sex with many women before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:59 PM |
| 0 | When saying women are “promiscuous”, where are you getting that info?Big oof buddy. You don’t need to date promiscuous women but I gotta tell you, I’ve met plenty of promiscuous women in happy long term relationships and marriages. The key is to not make character judgements on someone just because you don’t agree with their sexual activities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:57 PM |
| 9 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beMaybe I should clarify: I mean not to judge as in not to like….pass judgement on? As in: if I have a lot of sex I don’t think people should decide I’m less of a person? They are free not to date me if I don’t align with their preferences, but if they’re going to think I’m somehow less of a woman/used up/etc then I’d prefer them to keep that to themselves. ETA: my wording was confusing. We all have preferences. If someone isn’t attracted to me because im tattooed and they don’t like tattoos, that… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:44 PM |
| 6 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI think we shouldn’t shame anyone for n counts high or low, but it’s reasonable to assume that someone with a high n-count would prefer someone with similar experience, just like it’s reasonable to assume people with low n-counts would want someone with comparable experience. I mean I don’t care either way because in my experience enthusiasm more than makes up for any fancy techniques but as I understand that, many people have been shamed for a lack of experience which is in poor taste. It’s ner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:36 PM |
| 7 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI mean I just think we shouldn’t shame people but it’s great you have an opposite view! So it’s ok if I shame you for things then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:31 PM |
| 5 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI’m so sorry. That would’ve sucked. I always feel so bad for girls who develop early because you end up going through something difficult while also getting shit from kids, who are renowned assholes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:16 PM |
| 14 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI mean that’s YOUR opinion. Your free to have that! But name calling and shaming is just too much. If you don’t want to sleep with someone with a high n-count, just don’t sleep with them. No point calling them dirty or immoral or gross. Like it just means you and people with high n-counts aren’t compatible. I’m not compatible with conservative men. I’m not going to call them ignorant, small minded, sexist, etc. I’m just going to not pursue them. No one’s feelings get hurt. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:15 PM |
| 5 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI mean, sex happens most places. Not all women are promiscuous. It’s a personal choice, which involves our view on relationships, important of sex, how much we like sex, how comfortable we are with ourselves, how we were raised, and the society we live in. Women don’t come out the womb one way or the other, what we learn and see around us influences the choices we make. If we were looking at cultural norms across countries, you can see that countries with strong religious dictatorships that info… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 01:13 PM |
| 1 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beConversely, I think it’s fine to want to know n-counts as long as you don’t get pissy about it. I’m happy to share my count in a judgement free zone….but those are far and few between. When I was casually dating, it happened that quite a few times a man would judge me for my number then still try and sleep with me and then get mad when I said no. Like dude, you called me easy and hour ago on our first date, now you want some? Great way to ruin your own night sir. The amount of times they’d call … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:56 PM |
| 12 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI mean maybe? But people shame women for n-counts all the time and I’m just getting sluttier. Shaming women with high n-counts isn’t going to take away their existing n-count. And honestly I think shaming people for how they choose to have their legal, consensual, safe, ethical sex is pretty puritanical. People make their choices. They’re gonna make choices you don’t like, but you don’t get to dictate those choices. We’ve given women the ability to have sex safely, without life-long consequence.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:38 PM |
| 1 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beExactly! I go by the motto that if it’s safe, consensual, legal, and ethical, your bedroom is solely your business. If you or your partner have n-count qualifiers, be honest, but there’s no point spewing pointless angry rhetoric about people who don’t fit your mould. They aren’t hurting you by having sex, so leave them alone, and focus on the people you WANT to date not the ones who you wouldn’t want to date. Like, do I personally think it’s ridiculous to automatically decide a person has less v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:34 PM |
| 23 | “When men sleep around no one cares, in fact, it’s almost applauded. Yet when women sleep around, she’s considered promiscuous and shamed for it.” Sorry ladies, it’s not the same thing, no matter how much you want it to beI mean….maybe (hot take) JUST MAYBE we should not judge people for their body count? Like, if you prefer a low n-count woman that’s your call, but shaming women with higher counts isn’t going to get you a low n-count woman any faster. It’s just pointless meanness for no clear reason. Like, shaming a woman with a body count of 15 because you don’t like women with a body count over 5 doesn’t do anything. It’s not going to change her mind, it’s not going to magically erase her past partners. If n-c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:26 PM |
| 2 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?I mean it’s still not a nice thing to say but it takes out an aditional dehumanising aspect? Edit to change a few words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?That’s definitely also part of it too I’d say! You’re onto something there. I mean that sincerely btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 11:14 AM |
| 3 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?Again it’s the context. If someone is using it while also saying degrading shit about women then it comes across as dehumanising. Because it is often used in that context it’s offensive. If my doctor writes in her report that I’m a ‘25 year old female’ that’s fine. If someone says ‘females are disgusting and only do xyz’ it’s like ‘hey…..come on now’. Words have power not only because of meaning but context. We have to be mindful of both. But agree to disagree if you want! It’s your choice ultim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 11:10 AM |
| 3 | Are some males infatilized/desexualized because they look childish?I disagree but you do you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:52 AM |
| 3 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?Look I’ll be the first to argue that we should love like dogs, without reservation, but I’m not going to use language that is dehumanising in the process. And I’m not going to say dogs have a greater capacity for love, just a different one because the are unburdened by experiences that harden us and teach us otherwise. I think we have basic things in common with animals - eat poop sleep repeat - but we are also so different due to our ability to reason, to create, to travel. We can cook for plea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 5 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?The social context. Many people using ‘female’ on this sub especially do so when saying degrading stuff about women. It’s not as common for men. Men can get offended by being called male, it’s just less common so the offence is less common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:45 AM |
| 2 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?They do! My darling dog feels a lot. The difference is by the trick of evolution I can reason with my emotions. Poppy (my dog) is scared of thunderstorms. Terrified of them. Every time they end but in that moment she doesn’t know that. She just knows BIG NOISE LOUD NO. Her fear overtakes her. It’s heartbreaking and every time it happens I stay up all night until she’s calm again. If a thunderstorm happens and I’m not home, she will scratch at the walls and doors, trying to get away from the nois… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?I mean fucking same my guy, animals are cool as fuck, but I still think an average human - man, woman, or in between - has more capacity to think, feel, and reason, than the average animal. I prefer the magpies in my backyard to any stranger on the street. But I know that while the magpies around me are intelligent fuckers, they are also not concerned with my well-being the same way I am with theirs. I will feed them if they’re hungry, I’ll take my dog inside if she scares them. But if I frighte… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:36 AM |
| 4 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?Me: using ‘female’ to describe women can be dehumanising because humans in general have a greater capacity to think/feel/reason than animals You: dogs have more capacity to love than ‘human females’ Edit: note how I said my dog isn’t burdened with consciousness as much as me. It’s easy to love when the world is kind to you. It’s why happier dogs are more loving, and traumatised dogs need time to open up. Dogs will always provide unconditional love. That doesn’t make women worse than a dog. It ju… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:29 AM |
| 2 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problemsThat didn’t answer any of my questions. You’re saying a lot of different things here: First people can’t change. Now they can but it’s minuscule. Then changes seen through personality in older people are because of trauma. Then it’s because their brains are changing. I asked some simple questions, the primary one being; if you don’t believe people change, at what age are they ‘stuck’ in their personality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:25 AM |
| 3 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?I….didn’t say that I thought or felt more than primates? I compared myself to my dog? I might be a little confused but what’s the point of your question? It feels a lot like you’re trying to trip me up on something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:23 AM |
| 3 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problemsSo again personal not biological. We have biological urges and can ignore them. Which is why statistically, most men aren’t cheating. We have power over ourselves. Putting it on biology is just excusing behaviour we’d rather not admit to. If we were all about biology first, then people like Stephen Mobley, who murdered someone and blamed it on the ‘MAOA gene’ (or warrior gene) wouldn’t be able to be held responsible for their actions. After all, biology made them do it? Their genes in fact! We c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:20 AM |
| 4 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?God no. My sweet dog is the best person I know. Her capacity for love is boundless. She finds joy in silly things. She approaches the world believing everyone is her friend. But she also isn’t burdened with the knowledge of the world, or with taxes, or with the ability to conceptualise time properly. It is not a lie to say that as a being, I am more complex than my dog. Better? No. Id love to be her. I fucking envy the little asshole, sleeping on my pillow and getting cuddles whenever she wants.… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:10 AM |
| 4 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problemsAgain with it being biological…. Look, if all our behaviour was explained by biology we’d be fucking in the streets whenever a woman is ovulating. We are more than biology, we are the sum of what we do, think and say. We are our choices and our actions. So even if men have higher sex drives, men still have the conscious ability to control their behaviour. So if men are cheating it’s not because they are men, it’s because they lack the moral fortitude to just not do that. Personal failing, not a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 10:04 AM |
| 3 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?What do you mean by ‘natural male coldness?’ Genuine question I’ve never heard of or observed this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:57 AM |
| 3 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problemsSo people can only change through trauma? People CAN change through trauma, and they do! But also like….because they mature. And develop as humans. If no one changes except through trauma, at what age does our personality become set in stone? Genuine questions here: are they mutable until a certain age? At what age are they set? What do you think explains the change in the studies we’ve discussed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:56 AM |
| 4 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?Animals with far greater capacity for thoughts and feelings. I’d argue I have a greater capacity for feeling than my dog. Not to lessen my dogs love for me, or my dogs capacity to feel and think, but I undoubtedly feel and think more. Hence the issue with associating women with animals that don’t have the same capacity for logic, reasoning, emotions, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:52 AM |
| 5 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problemsTestosterone can make you more likely to cheat, but that’s not what you said. You said ‘most men are dogs and will cheat if they have the chance’. That’s very different from saying the actual fact which is: high testosterone levels have been associated with unfaithful behaviour. Or even the fact that: men are more likely to cheat than women in several age groups. It’s true that higher testosterone levels are linked to higher levels of infidelity, however several studies often quoted in this subr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:50 AM |
| 3 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problemsPopular research begs to differ: https://www.livescience.com/personality-age-change.html https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200313-how-your-personality-changes-as-you-age I think you’re thinking of personality as something smaller than what it is. Our personality is more than just if someone is funny. Like, a shy person will likely remain fairly shy. But our personality is also what we value, how we act, what we prioritise, what we do, how we think. That can all change which leads to our perso… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:36 AM |
| 14 | Are some males infatilized/desexualized because they look childish?I think also there is a fetishisation of youth, especially womens youth. A lot of beauty standards women have are associated with youth. There’s a lot of emphasis on staying looking ‘young’ because young is more likely to mean attractive. Whereas I think men are more easily able to be sexualised as they age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:22 AM |
| 11 | Why is simply referring to women as “female” automatically degrading?I think the issue, as far as I’ve read, comes from people using it in a dehumanising way. ‘Female’ just means ‘of the female gender’. It’s used for sheep, fish, horses, dogs, snails. ‘Woman’ is specifically a ‘human female’. Sometimes, when certain people use ‘female’, they do so when expressing sentiments that are degrading towards women. By calling women ‘females’ while doing so, it sort of subtextually places women on the same pedestal as animals. Especially as the use of the word is strongly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:19 AM |
| 6 | Assholes and Hypergamy: Women prefer assholes and create their dating problems? Small isn’t minuscule is it? I’ve changed in small ways over the last few years that has led to me being very different now to who I was at 20. Each year between 20 and 25 I changed a little more in small ways that has resulted in me being very different now. The research didn’t say ‘oh people change a couple times that’s it’, it said people change in small ways and keep changing. I have become less naive each year. So now I’m not really naive. I was more naive last year and the year before, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/22 09:16 AM |
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