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no my point is that successful women dont care about how nice or cool a man is unless he reaches thier financial level or most likely even more to be viable enough to date
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:48 AM
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shame and judgemnt is doing something, youre trying to force them not to do it using shame, are you joking?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:07 AM
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stop ignoring my questions should men who are 35+ be able to date 18 year old women, since telling them not to is forcing them, or is it better for society if those men to reevaluate their dating preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:06 AM
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saying i dont date black women becasue they arent good enough to date is bad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 03:06 AM
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yes so would men who are 35+ be able to date 18 year old women, since telling them not to is forcing them, or is it better for society if those men to reevaluate their dating preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:55 AM
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yes but if youre already succesful why do you need the man to be more succesful than you, you can be succesful and be prosperous while daitng a man who earns less
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:50 AM
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and saying women should view men who eanr less as them as viable humans worth daitng is also not forcing them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:49 AM
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but my point still stands, that would be stupid to say that, no? would that be forcing them and inhumane?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:46 AM
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no, only a smaller and smaller percent of men will benefit from this casue less and less men will be viable enough for owmens attention and desire, so those small percent of more suiccesful men will have more options to choose form, but most men will become less and less viable as women earn more moeny when it shouldnt be that way, women should be able to date men who earn less than them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:45 AM
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its like saying 35+ men shouldnt date women who are 18 cause its weird is forcing them and inhumane
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:44 AM
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yes but its still proof that pushing for more and more equality and financial success for women wont lead to good futur, if the successful women of today (even if they are rare) arent willing to date men who earn less, why should we help push equality more and make it more common for women to earn more money if there is benefit to men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:41 AM
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yes but doesnt matter my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:39 AM
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yes it is becasue you dont see them as humans worth dating unless they reach a specific financial level
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:37 AM
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no, women can just not act greedy. dont need laws for that
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:25 AM
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love is all that should matter, not being greedy and only caring about money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:23 AM
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nothing to do with laws
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:23 AM
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why does it make you unhappy to date men who earn less, doesnt that sound like you dont see men as humans and worthy of love if they dont make as much money,, thats jsut so strange
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:21 AM
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i never talked about laws being a solution in this situation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:20 AM
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yes but my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 02:19 AM
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what minority
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:12 AM
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again im not talking about laws
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:11 AM
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yes that greedy obsession with moeny is effecting society badly, re read my psot to see why its an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:11 AM
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yes but again, reread my post on why thats an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:10 AM
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80k is more than enough with a man earning 50k added , you dont need 160k to live comfortbaly
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:08 AM
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yes, and there is no need for successful women to want men with moeny
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:07 AM
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agian this has nothing to do with laws
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:06 AM
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if you already have money why do you need a man with money
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:03 AM
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yes, if youre actively aware that its effecting men as i stated, and you still choose to do it, thats malice intent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:01 AM
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yes but thats harmful thinking, since less and less men have opportunities to become viable which will; lead to issues and a reaction that you may not like, did you not read my post
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 01:00 AM
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treating someone as a human worthy of dating has nothing to do with human rights
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:59 AM
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when did i say i wanted to force women to not work and not make as much money as men?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:59 AM
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if doing what you want harms society and people, then yes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:57 AM
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studies show that women are delaying or avoiding marriage due to a lack of financially stable men. Many women prioritize financial security and are finding fewer men who meet their standards for stable employment and income. shown in research from Cornell and the Brookings Institution, that women prefer partners with both education and solid job prospects​ Research from the Institute for Family Studies shows that narrowing income gap between men and women contribute to the decline in marriages. …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:57 AM
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yes but my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:53 AM
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im not talking about human rights at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:52 AM
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yes it does, all stats prove that more and more men are being sidelined, and more and more womenare choosing to not marry men becasue they find most men arent financially viable enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:51 AM
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did you not read my post
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:50 AM
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and your point is ?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:49 AM
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yes it is, more and more men are getting sidelined, the stats are proving this and less and less women are getting married becasue there are less and elss viable men in their eyes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:49 AM
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youre grasping at straws no, you cant force men to be straight wanting men to be finiaclly successful isnt asexuality but a traditional preference, that can be changed
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:48 AM
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yes and rape is also a desire, yet many men dont rape. jsut casue tis a desire doesnt mean you should act on it, especially if it leads to societal issues
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:45 AM
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i never said we should force women to not work, so what are you yapping about
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:44 AM
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cause its only leading to mroe and more meant being less and less viable for dating, which will lead to a rejection of equality becasue its only harmful to men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:44 AM
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im not gay
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:42 AM
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yes we do, sorry reddit femcel
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:42 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:33 AM
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doesnt change the face that our primary purpose is to pro create
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:26 AM
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im talking about womnen that are earnign 80K and more, did you not read my post
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:21 AM
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but as a successful woman you dont need moeny from your partner since youve already acquired enough
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:15 AM
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dating, marriage and having kids is the only reason we ar ehere, that is our main job, of course men would care if that becomes harder and harder to do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:13 AM
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yes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:10 AM
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yes becasue they cant see men as humans unless they earn the same or more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:10 AM
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if youre successful you dont need it from your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:09 AM
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again men have many thing to offer but that doesnt matter to most women unless they make the same opr more, can you not read?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:08 AM
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many women worked in the past, 40% of women had jobs as Domestic servants and as Textile and garment workers, Teachers and Factory workers, and the rest chose to be mothers, they werent forced by gun point yes so there is no benifit to equality for men, it only makes it harder and harder to be seen as a viable partner becasue there are less and elss opportunities, how are you not understanding women fault in this equation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 12:02 AM
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men have been dating women earning less than the for centuries, are wmoen incapable of seeing men as humans if they dont earn the same as them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:57 PM
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again men have many things to offer other than money, but that doesnt matter unless they have the same money or more and men have less opportunities to do so now thats the point, the opportunities continue to get more and more narrow
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:54 PM
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what men have many things to offer other than money, but that doesnt matter unless they have the same money or more thats the point, stop misreading what im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:48 PM
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again my point is womemn with money still require men to have as much money as them or more, can you not read?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:44 PM
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why dont all of them? why require traditional things form men while not being traditional themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:40 PM
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yes so why cant women with those same opportunities also stop care and demanding financial success form men those are the only 2 options
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:25 PM
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when did i say women should earn less than men i said women should stop caring about mens money once they have their own moeny and stop complaining there arent any viable men anymore cause you cant find more successful men. thats tupid
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:14 PM
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well why would men not fight against something that harms them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:12 PM
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yes it should stay that way and not get any more equal casue it only gets worse the only way around it is for women to stop caring about financial success in men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:11 PM
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or women can now not care about financial success in men , never asked for it to go back to the past just for women to stop caring abouit it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:11 PM
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then why shouldnt men fight against it, if something only harms you and doesnt help it will eventually be overturned
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:09 PM
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well when women have money they should stop caring about requiring men to have it. otherwise the same traditional standards are still being placed on men therefore feminism and fight for equality hasnt helped men in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:07 PM
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my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:04 PM
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yes so why should men fight for equality when it only makes their lives harder
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:02 PM
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not if men change it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 11:01 PM
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if you say so
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:31 PM
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when did i say women are paid too much and are too successful, learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:30 PM
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then why should men fight for it if it only harms them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:30 PM
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youre hung up over a word and ignoring the argument
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:29 PM
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yes but not if you create your own issue that you complain about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:28 PM
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low iq response
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:27 PM
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most feminists do, so are you willing to say most feminists arent viable partners
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:25 PM
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if a degree made you successful we would have much more successful people than we do, we dont becasue a degree isnt going to make you successful most degrees women get are these Nursing Psychology HR Education Biology none of those lead to high paying jobs so therefor not successful, more degrees doesn't equate to more successful if the degrees are useless or unused
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:25 PM
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yes so do you not see the issue, less and kess men can become the men women want becasue there are less and less opportunites
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:22 PM
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yes so do you not see the issue, less and kess men can become the men women want becasue there are less and less opportunites
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:20 PM
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so most modern women arent viable since they have a woe is me attidute?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:19 PM
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you didnt read my main post properly, i suggest re reading it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:18 PM
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my point is women still require men to earn as much or mroe than them, never said men didnt provide in other areas other than money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:17 PM
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my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:15 PM
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thats not what i argued for at all, please reread my post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:14 PM
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education is important, but they don’t automatically make someone better at the job than someone with hands-on experience or industry-specific knowledge . Also, the workplace requires a lot more than just what’s learned in a classroom communication, leadership, and problem-solving aren’t always taught in schools. Degrees are great, but they’re only part of the bigger picture for job success.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:14 PM
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yes but men arnet forcing women to have less boobs then complaining that women dont have big boobs anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:10 PM
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more and more women are complaining about not finding a viable man who earns as much as them or more, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:09 PM
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i meant abolished not in a government sense but as a collective decision form women themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:08 PM
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yes but fighting for power and still requiring men to fulfill financial success is basically asking for men to remain powerful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:08 PM
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you didnt read my post
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:06 PM
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women weren't victims, they chose much of the dynamics of those times
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 03:06 PM
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My point still stands: as more women enter the workforce and fewer are earning less than men, and job opportunities for men to earn the same or more are decreasing, it’s becoming increasingly difficult for men to meet the financial expectations set by women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:58 PM
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studies prove most women still prefer men earning as much as them but preferably more than them, this is not a minority of women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:55 PM
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Education alone doesn’t automatically mean women are outperforming men. Performance in the workplace depends on many factors like experience, industry knowledge, and specific skills, not just degrees. While women might be more educated in some areas, that doesn’t always translate to better job performance or higher earnings across all fields compared to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:54 PM
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there are less and less women who do earn elss than men thats the point, the pool of women earning less is less, and the eprcent of jobs for men to earn the same or more as women is less too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:52 PM
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For a huge part of history, voting rights were limited to landowners or wealthy men, not the general male population, 95% of men had no power or leadership ability. In many places, working-class men, poor men, or those without property had no say in politics. It wasn't until the 19th and 20th centuries that voting rights expanded to most men, through movements like the Chartists in the UK or the expansion of suffrage in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:50 PM
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that statement oversimplifies history. History isn’t as black and white as saying women "weren’t allowed" in those roles it’s more complex, Women influenced politics, economics, and culture through informal power, often behind the scenes, in areas like family, religion, and commerce. Even in patriarchal systems, women shaped history through resistance, alliances, and decision-making.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:48 PM
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women are still stuck requiring men earn as much or more, so that should be abolished generally otherwise its jsut a strain on men because they have half as many jobs but with the same traditional financial expectations
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:44 PM
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the studies dont agree, women by large stil epxect men to earn as much or preferably more than them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:43 PM
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where did i say that, please learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:42 PM
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where
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:41 PM
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more women aren't earning less than men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:41 PM
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do you not know what a figure of speech is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:40 PM
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yes but the whole requirement of women to expect men earn as much as them or more should be abolished
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:39 PM
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there is still half as much opportunities to even do that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:38 PM
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did you not read my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:37 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:37 PM
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yes but did you not read my post, men not have half as much opportunities to achieve that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:35 PM
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most women still require and prefer men earn as much as them or more
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:34 PM
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Men did far more than provide food they built infrastructure, defended communities, and drove technological advances. They took on risky roles like hunting, exploring, and fighting to protect societies, often using not just strength but strategy and leadership. Their efforts shaped civilizations, made life safer, and propelled progress. Men weren’t just providers; they were leaders and innovators.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:33 PM
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you didnt even read the post i fear
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:23 PM
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I'm not saying women's success should directly benefit men. My point is that societal shifts, like equal pay, can have unintended effects on dating dynamics for both genders. While individual job gains don't impact others personally, broader trends like more women in high-paying roles can affect relationships between men and women. It's not about oppressing anyone I'm not trying to be "better than women." I'm discussing how both men and women adjust to evolving expectations. Many men find fullin…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:23 PM
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then dont complain about not finding a good viable man then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:16 PM
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yet most women still prefer men earn as much or more than them
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:16 PM
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2016 Study in Personality and Individual Differences: This study found that many women prefer to date men who earn as much as they do or more 2017 Pew Research Center Report: Even with advances in gender equality, a significant number of women still prefer partners who have equal or higher incomes, OkCupid Data Analysis: Data from OkCupid shows that women often favor men who earn at least the same amount or more than they do. Sociological Studies: Sociologists have observed that as women earn mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/24 02:15 PM
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Low IQ human being.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:19 PM
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Low IQ comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:45 AM
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again I never claimed men are useless/worthless. What I said was men don't have inherent value; instead, they gain value through attributes like humor, status, wealth, and skills. most men have some value in society casue they gained some, so they arent all worthless just dont have inherent value, please learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:19 PM
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doesnt mean women value most mens cum
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:09 PM
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i suggest rereading until you catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:09 PM
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Low IQ comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:03 PM
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my god youre stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:59 PM
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again I never claimed men are useless/worthless. What I said was men don't have inherent value; instead, they gain value through attributes like humor, status, wealth, and skills. most men have some value in society so they arent all worthless just dont have inherent value, please learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:44 PM
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learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:36 PM
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I never claimed men are useless. What I said was men don't have inherent value; instead, they gain value through attributes like humor, status, wealth, and skills. On the other hand, women don't need to do that to be valued by men because they have inherent reproductive value. Especially if a woman is attractive and fertile, she doesn't need anything else for most men even famous and wealthy men to want her. While an attractive man may have more value than most men, his value still doesn't compa…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:23 PM
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again, you said that i said men are useless, tats not what i said, i just said men dont have inherent value, and gain their value through, humor, status, wealth,skills, and that women dont need to do that to be valuable to men since they have reproductive inherent value, especially if the woman is hot and fertile, she doesnt need anyhting else for most men to want her an attractive male may have more value than most men, but it pales in comparison to the average woman in terms of value and atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:21 PM
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if thats what you think i said then i cant help you, you just have an inability to understand, nothing much i can do further
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:15 PM
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seriously this isnt an insult, you should be very worried by your lack of reading comprehension, its very poor
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:11 PM
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nope other way around, women have a very hard time with being realistic with their looks im in a happy relationship, fit, healthy good career, im just not stupid and can see reality for what it is everything is a feed back loop, i never said it was 100% womens fault, but you would be lying or just too stupid to understand to ignore any blame
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:07 PM
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average is not the same as being invisible you should instead ask women why they struggle with accepting theyre average, becasue if more women do, less men will be overlooked and invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:01 PM
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you cant change reality just casue you feel good, they will still invisible, soinstead men need therapy to accept that they are invisible and thats okay and find purpose in that journey to gaining value men will be better if less women treat men as invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:56 PM
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men need therapy to accept that they are invisible and thats okay and find purpose in that journey to gaining value, and women need to lower their standards and be realistic, but that will ever happen cause every woman thinks they are a 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:51 PM
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yes they can, by ignoring them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:47 PM
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blame women for making them invisible, not my doing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:41 PM
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thats the thing women dont need earned skills to have value, since women have inherent value men need to develop skills and be noteworthy to some extent to have any value dating app stats are on of many data points that prove that the average man is invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 02:21 PM
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not in charge, but they have to gain some notability , skills, and be useful to be valuable women dont value the average man, but many men still value them value the average woman becasue they have inherent value of procreation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:52 PM
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yes men dont have inherent value, women do, which is pregnancy, why is that so hard for you to grasp
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:24 PM
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i guess its mens strength that is inherent value, but now days that's useless due to technology etc, so men dont have inherent value, men have to earn it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:41 PM
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again, women can have any value on top of the inherent value of pregnancy, please learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:36 PM
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women can have any other value execpt status or fame, or wealth, those things arent really that important for men in terms of attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:11 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:50 AM
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you cant read
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:43 AM
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that means that women have inherent value of giving birth, not that its the only value women have, please use your brain
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 11:16 AM
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when did i say thats the only value women have, please learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:19 AM
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sadly you're wrong women have much more inherent value than men. men only become valuable when they become leaders, successful, skillful and useful. women can be talent less, useless pyscially and intellectually and shy followers and men will still find them valauable if they can bear children and are youthful
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 08:28 AM
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could i not say the same for the woman? if a woman doesnt invest in the date equally is she also just trying to use the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:12 AM
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that doesnt change my point, most men dont ever get value, so even when women lose value there is always enough men that will value them, just not the men the women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:11 AM
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no the have to work on maintaining their value, womens value inherently dissapears as they get older
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 01:55 PM
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not all men, men like me what to go to a chill first date to see if we click on a deeper level to then invest if we do. but you're filtering for men that invest 100% based purely off looks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:38 AM
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yes bit why cat you do that and find out on simple coffee date
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:26 AM
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Sure, just don’t complain about only attracting men who only value your looks if you only pay attention to men who invest in you right off the bat because of your appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:24 AM
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yes, just dont be a woman complaining that youre only atttracitng men that value your looks uif you oinly give men attention that start investing in you based purely off your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:23 AM
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enough to not do weird incel tests
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:22 AM
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yes but youre expecting a man invest on you purely because of your looks. do you not see the issue there
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:45 AM
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no mens control is based on the fact that they have more to gian from it, when men get status, more doors open for them sexually, for women it does not. rihanna doesnt have more mne wanting to fuck her than any hot 10/10 cashier, men dont care about status or fame. control and power for men can turn an ugly man hot to many women. but no success or fame can turn a ugly woman hot
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:59 AM
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yes so, should capitalism keep going itno more exploitation, higher standards for workers, expecting them to have 10 years experience for entry level jobs, and never change?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:56 AM
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which one clearly has it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:55 AM
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yes but keeping the first couple dates lowkey you can give him the chance to love you for you before he commits to investing into you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 12:54 AM
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Yeah so dont complain about men only wanting you for your looks and sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:49 AM
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When was i trying to be charming or witty? What are you yapping about
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:49 AM
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i love how women become the most boot licking, pro business exploitation when you frame it differently
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:14 AM
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yes but what does that got to do with my post, im talking about the first few dates, has nothing to do with your kids or sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:11 AM
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so you think businesses are the ones that need more empathy than the people that want jobs? you have to be insane the poor exploitative businesses how are they going to live!!!!, those spoiled workers need to just suck it up, am i right!!!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:01 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 01:59 AM
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if you answer my quesiton, you will understand why im asking it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:56 AM
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you really cant read
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:56 AM
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who has it worse, the company or the people wanting jobs? especially if that job requires you to pay for the interview location and their food or drinks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:20 AM
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you pay for a nice office space for the interviewer?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:32 PM
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let me know when youre ready to engage in a simple quesiton, becasue the answer you want form me is already obvious becasue of the questions im asking
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:31 PM
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doesnt matter, love is not some special emotion separated form biology
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:31 PM
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my answer is already pretty obvious, its in my question itself. again ill ask, so you think the person has no right to complain about mcdonalds job interviewer demanding him to pay for a nice office space so he can have a nice view of the city when he interviews him. you think that would be okay for mcdonalds to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:30 PM
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okay so if every job asked or required you to buy them 20 dollars of cafe food and coffee every time you interview would that be okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:29 PM
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me paying for the interview office location has nothing to do with the job and its just business exploitation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:28 PM
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so if you arent willing to pay for the interviewers office location for the interview it means im not qualified for the job?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:27 PM
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no just women dont need to do or achieve anyhting to be desirable to men, men do. which leads to men building and running the world
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:26 PM
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you clearly didnt read my post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:25 PM
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which one clearly has it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:25 PM
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how does going for coffee kill your children
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:25 PM
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bro cant read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:34 PM
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love is just a chemical reaction motivating us to procreate and build a family to help make sure that offspring survives into adulthood, the inherent value women have is a part of that equation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:30 PM
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im the op of this post, answer my quesitons or go away,
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:23 PM
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again ill ask, so you think the person has no right to complain about mcdonalds job interviewer demanding him to pay for a nice office space so he can have a nice view of the city when he interviews him. you think that would be okay for mcdonalds to do?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:22 PM
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it does give someone inherent value for people to desire
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:21 PM
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please learn how to read i said inherent value, men have to earn their value in society, which is why most people that achieve anything are men, its a double edge sword
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:20 PM
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no, men built the world we live in, but we had to earn it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:59 PM
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no women expect men they like and dont like to pay for dates, thats just expected
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:18 PM
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yes becasue men know that they are judged by this action
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:15 PM
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yes, we are biological animals, that inherent value shapes everything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:15 PM
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im pretty sure qualification has nothing to do with paying for an interview
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:53 AM
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woman are more biologically valuable for the continuation of the species. Women are born with a limited number of eggs, while men produce millions of sperm daily. This difference in gamete production contributes to the perception that women are more biologically valuable. the loss of women had a more significant impact on population growth than the loss of men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:52 AM
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men arent inherently valued or loved like women are, men have to give value and be of use to gain love and value
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:47 AM
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most men pay for first dates, for drinks or dinners
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:55 AM
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1 is too many for the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:11 AM
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almost all women would prefer men to pay for the date even now
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:49 AM
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exactly, thats why coffee dates or walking in the park are perfectly fine
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:29 AM
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youre half there, just haven't grasped the details yet
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:25 AM
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man oh man, i dont know what to tell you, again reread till you catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:24 AM
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like i said reread till you catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:19 AM
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well then i guess you need to reread till you catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:17 AM
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did you not read my post at all
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:12 AM
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for many men, yes. so im going to ask again, do you feel more empathy for businesses than job seekers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:08 AM
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so you are pro capitalist exploitation and people should just suck it up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:03 AM
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im going to ask again, do you feel more empathy for businesses than job seekers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:57 AM
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they dnt tell you that upfront but might think it subconsciously
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:18 AM
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so you think mcdonalds isnt in the wrong there at all? i love how women become the biggest boot licking pro monopoly and pro business exploitation when you frame it differently
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:17 AM
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any women that demand men to pay for the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 08:16 AM
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so you dont think thats a valid criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:54 AM
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does he have the right becasue he is also correct in thinking thats bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:51 AM
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so you feel more empathy for businesses than job seekers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:50 AM
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agian, stop ignoring my quesiton, do you not think he has a right to think thats not okay of mc donalds to demand of him? and who do you have more empathy for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:49 AM
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i love how you just cant answer simple questions. so you think the person has no right to complain about mcdonalds job interviewer demanding him to pay for a nice office space so the interviewer can have a nice view during the interview
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:47 AM
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let me know when you finally read my post
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:44 AM
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doesnt matter, who do you feel more empathy for the interviewer demanding the interviewee to pay for the chance of an interview, or the person pointing out why its not okay online
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:43 AM
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can you not read
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:42 AM
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which one is worse? do you have equal empathy for companies or job seekers? or is there an obvious disadvantageous one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:39 AM
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what if he complained about the fact that he had to pay the mcdonalds job interviewer for the "privilege" of having an interview?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:38 AM
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should businesses have sympathy for job seekers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:30 AM
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not most or all, but many, especially more likely women after 25
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:21 AM
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so you feel more empathy for businesses than job seekers?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:14 AM
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okay thats all i needed, we men also find those types of women bad too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:14 AM
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are you unable to answer quesitons? im asking your opinion on the job interviewers that make the people applying go though this to get the job, whats your opinion on them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:03 AM
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i disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:59 AM
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no shit, ill ask again, whats your opinion on the job interviewers in my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:54 AM
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whats your opinion on the job interviewers in my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:28 AM
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okay we have one woman that has basic empathy, thats good
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:17 AM
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so you would be an incel?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:10 AM
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well i am, thats the point of this post which one is clearly worse, lets be honest here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:52 AM
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which one is clearly worse, lets be honest here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:49 AM
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no that just means women dont need to pay to enjoy sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:12 AM
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what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:39 AM
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even then you only can really know someones personality in person, if it was so easy women wouldnt be falling for fuck boys all the time on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 04:32 AM
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you cant find someone you like based off their personality on apps, only based on looks, only in person you can assess their actual personality again, no one has deep convos on tinder to be able to value personality, stop capping
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:55 AM
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no one has deep convos on tinder, stop capping
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:27 AM
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dont complain about only attracting men valuing you only for your looks when that is how the relationship started and foundation the relationship investment started on
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:27 AM
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yeah you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:29 AM
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again, no one has a deep enough convo on dating apps for long enough to assess any value on their personality, the only way is to do that in person
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:23 AM
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as long as you don't complain about men treating you like a prostitute then i guess thats allgood
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:23 AM
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casue you want to meet them to find out if you like them, first its attraction then it should be to meet and see if you click, then you can choose to invest if you do
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 02:10 AM
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again its not enough convo to base nay value on it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:47 AM
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women are as horny as men they just want men better than them to fuck them
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:46 AM
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does a man need to buy your love?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:46 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:57 AM
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thats not enough convo to love you for your personality are you joking?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:56 AM
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women love sex just as much
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:44 AM
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then dont complain that men only go for your looks when thats how the relationship starts and is valued
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:44 AM
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what are yapping about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:42 AM
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exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:40 AM
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who said anyhting about sex here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:38 AM
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he doesnt know you, all he can value you by is your looks, so you want a man to treat you special purely based on your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:37 AM
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again, why does a man need to create a imaginative exciting date when all he can base any value on is your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:37 AM
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why should he take you seriously, he doesnt know you yet, again you want men to take women seriously based purely off their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 12:35 AM
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of course
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:16 AM
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proof its 1%?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:16 AM
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thats not enough to love someone based on thier personality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:15 AM
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if you expect that, then you better also be willing to delete dating apps to prove youre able to take risks aswell
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:15 AM
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investing anything more than a simple coffee for the first date is investing based soely on looks since you have nothing else to base the investment on, a dinner is more than just investing money, its also investing time
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:05 AM
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they are everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:04 AM
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you want a person to have passion and give 300% investment based purely off your looks? then dont complain about only attracting people that like you for your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:02 AM
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nope, nice cope
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:01 AM
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if your values is an expensive first date then you cant complain about men only wanting you for your looks becasue youre only attracting men that are willing to invest a lot based purely off your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:00 AM
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they are everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:59 PM
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when did i say otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:57 PM
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why is a chill first date not enough, especially if he doesn't know you yet and yhou dont know him yet, all he can base any investement on is your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:56 PM
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yes i already know that im just im bringing this up to make them notice
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:53 PM
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well expecting a man to invest on a first date is expecting him to already be enamored enough to want to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:52 PM
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if you need to impress her for her to like you she never liked you in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:51 PM
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maybe it is just amercian women, hopefully
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:46 PM
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seems that way
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:46 PM
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again, why should a man to invest any more than jsut a simple coffee or walk in the park if all he has about you to invest in thus far is your looks, especially if you want him to love you for your personality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:45 PM
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again you want him to treat you as special based purely off your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:40 PM
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those women are the same women that complain about men only loving them for thier looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:37 PM
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there are even less women interested in a walk in the park
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:37 PM
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why should a man invest 300% into a extravagant experience when he doesn't know them yet, youre expecting a man invest in a woman based purely on her looks, then alter complain about men only wanting them for thier looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:36 PM
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Exactly, that's why I'm bringing this up to make them notice. They expect men to invest 300% on a first date with a woman they barely know, basing that investment solely on looks. Then, they later complain that men aren't interested in their personalities and only care about their appearances.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:34 PM
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why should a man to invest on a dinner and drinks when all he has about you to invest in thus far is your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:32 PM
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those owmen are realistic and smart, not talking about those women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:31 PM
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thats my point why should a man put 300% effort on the first date when he doesnt know you you yet or your personality, youre expecting aman invest moeny on a woman he only finds attractive, then you complain about men openly liking you for your looks, thats literally all he had about you to invest on
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:30 PM
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it shouldn't and you need to get over it is my point, especially if you complain about men not wanting you for you, its incanse to expect a man to invest a lot of moeny on the first date when he doesnt even know you yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:29 PM
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my point is to mention the hypocritical women only
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:28 PM
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you completely ignored my post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 11:28 PM
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do you not know what the word general means? you can be an outlier, but again if those men could choose the 28 yearold version fo that hot 35 yearold woman, they would
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:13 AM
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generally yes men dont prefer women thier age or older
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:10 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:09 AM
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yes but men prefer women younger, you can still be an attractive woman at 35 and be attractive to 35 year old men, but they would choose the 20-28 year old version of that women if they could
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:06 AM
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again age has nothing to do with maturity, sorry, that's just a cope and also i agree most men will settle with women their age, just like most women will settle with men their height and financial level. im talking about deep preferences. we all have ideal desires, and if a man who is 35 says he genuinely find's women whoa re 35 and older more appealing than women 20 to 28, he is lying to you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 05:02 AM
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ive met many oimmature women my age, age has nothing to do with maturity, sorry, thats just a cope
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:58 AM
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nope, not a sizeable anything, its a minute amount of men that will only date 18 year olds
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:57 AM
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settling on preferred age, yes. jsut like a woman who is 5'3" is most likely settling by daitng a man who is 5'3", doesn't mean they are settling on all areas, just on that are
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:55 AM
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Even in this sub, they're a minority. Those men are probably just saying that the most attractive women are in their early 20s, which is true. However, most of them would still date women older than that. For example, a 35-year-old man might still date a 28-year-old woman, even though he thinks the most attractive women are in their early 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:53 AM
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even in this sub they are a minority. Those men re probably jsut saying that the most attractive women are in their early 20s which is true, but most of them would still dating women older than early 20s if they are 35 for example would still date a woman who is 28 even though they think the moist attractive women are in thier early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:52 AM
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most men will settle with women around their age, due to proximity and options available to them, but yes men still prefer women younger than them because it creates sexual dimorphism, the same reaosn why women will most likely end up with men around their high tlevel but still would prefer a larger height gap becasue of that sexual dimorphism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:50 AM
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no its not realsiitc becasue 99% of men dont have 9inch cocks, and the percent of women that base their dating decision purely on that are a small percent of delusional women, and to argue about them as if its a wide spread thing worth arguing about just demonstrates you arent based in reality and are super delusional and insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:46 AM
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again ill have to rewrite my comment since youve already forgotten men will always like younger women than them so if hes 50 he will find women 20-40 more attractive than women his age or older, if the man is 35 he will find women 20-28 years old more attractive than women his age or older, unless he is a very particular man with mommy issues, or jsut has a kink for older women, but those men are the minority or its usually just a phase
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:44 AM
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thats like arguing about the small minute percent of women that only date men with 9 inch cocks, it jsut demonstrates you arent based i reality and youre cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:41 AM
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yes, my points still stand
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:40 AM
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again you cna go to a sub about people eating sand, and say every one here easy sand so clearly its a big thing worth arguing about, please step outside, most men aren't hyper obsessed with dating only18 year olds only, most men jsut prefer women younger than them if a man is 50 he will most likely prefer women 20-40 over women his age or older, and again men who are 35 will prefer women 18-28 more than women thier age or older that's the only real point here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:37 AM
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its like making an argument against a women that only fuck men with 9 inch cocks, thats a pointless debate and it just makes you sound stupid and insecure and not based in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:35 AM
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since you cant read, maybe repetition will help you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:33 AM
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her point is about a very small minute type of man that is hyper obsessed with daitng 18 year olds, thats not most men, im talking about the larger more accurate and general point of men preferring younger women than them,
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:33 AM
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men will always like younger women than them so if hes 50 he will find women 20-40 more attractive than women his age or older, if the man is 35 he will find women 20-28 years old more attractive than women his age or older, unless he is a very particular man with mommy issues, or jsut has a kink for older women, but those men are the minority or its usually just a phase
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:31 AM
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those guys are very rare, so youre arguing against a minute problem and therefore wasting your time, my point is still that most men value and find younger women than them attractive thats the more important point
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:30 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:29 AM
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please re read what i said again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:27 AM
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can a woman who only finds men who are really really funny and professional comedians get into a healthy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:26 AM
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men will always like younger women than them so if hes 50 he will find women 20-40 more attractive than women his age or older, if the man is 35 he will find women 20-28 years old more attractive than women his age or older, unless he is a very particular man with mommy issues, or jsut has a kink for older women, but those men are the minority or its usually just a phase
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:24 AM
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can you not read
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:19 AM
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men will always like younger women than them so if hes 50 he will find women 20-40 more attractive than women his age or older, if the man is 35 he will find women 20-28 years old more attractive than women his age or older, unless he is a very particular man with mommy issues, or jsut has a kink for older women, but those men are the minority or its usually just a phase
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:18 AM
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i disagree, men can have perfectly natural standards and be great men for relationships , you just sound insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:16 AM
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yes you can
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:12 AM
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again men are allowed to have standards, and men loving younger women and disliking older women is perfectly natural and based in our long developed biology
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:09 AM
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men are allowed to have standards, and men loving young women and disliking older women is perfectly natural and based in our long developed biology
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 04:05 AM
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because they're the lowest quality and the most delulu women with the highest standard demands on the market, and they also have kids that they demand you pay for
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 02:13 PM
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men are opportunistic not hypergamous
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 02:53 AM
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it would be easy if women were honest with how valuable and attractive they were
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:20 AM
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me when i have a shallow surface level understanding of redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 11:28 AM
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women are never happy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 08:21 AM
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again, not on all levels, since women still prefer men to lead, prefer to not support men financially, and prefer not to date down, and women sill prefer men to be smarter etc
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:26 PM
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semantics, the outcome is that nothing changes if most women act the same way
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:21 PM
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yes but if most women decide it, the outcome becomes universal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:19 PM
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yes women collectively want to nurture and birth children, men want to collecitvly provide and protect, and those decisions are based in that collective biology you want collective and majority change though, that cant happen without collective and majority change in what women value and desire
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:09 PM
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no "majority" and "most" generally refer to a collective, indicating a larger part of a group or total. are you joking? when most women make the same descions, what do you think the outcome is? at this point im starting to believe youre a troll
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:45 PM
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if most women think like that then yes it is collective
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:21 PM
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if most women dont prefer it, and deep down dislike it, the out come is that men will be the breadwinners of society, hwo do you not understand this? your personal decisions as a collective shapes the world around you, if you dont desire to lead men financially, that outcome is going to happen less likely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:01 PM
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again men still lead women on all levels still, even if its increasing, the line of willing owmen that prefer to be breadwinners is still very flat, majority of women still deep down dont prefer to be provider and that will never change
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:40 PM
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yes, you cant lead men, without leading men. you cant pick and choose where you are responsible over men. that's not what leaders do if men lead in 80% of levels, who do you think will lead society more? and have moist the opportunities to lead,
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:21 PM
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nope the amount of women choosing to stay single and not date is increasing, and the divorce rate is sky rocketing too. sorry, no data supports you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:20 PM
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again there needs a dramatic shift on all levels, and we arne;t seeing that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:43 PM
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again my studies proved that women dont prefer being the financial breadwinners, and marriages where the woman does earn more there is a 50% higher chance of divorce, and majority of successful women still even today arne't willing to settle by dating down and also the studies showed women still desire masculine leadership qualities in the men they date and that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:42 PM
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yes but they aren't happy with it, and they don't prefer it. and there will never be enough women who prefer it and enjoy it for there to be any dramatic change in societies leadership gender ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:38 PM
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my studies prove my reality is correct, do you have short term memory loss?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 01:37 PM
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you have to lead men on all levels to lead men, sorry. leaderships comes with responsibilty
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:14 AM
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again i'm talking about leading men on all levels, and again women don't prefer being breadwinners as there is a 50% higher chance of divorce and women who earn allot are way less likely to date down
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 05:13 AM
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yes and we actually changed the day to day technology to change this nature, so women have to do the same and change their preferences, behaviours and leadership of men day to day to actually make change. you just proved my point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:43 AM
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yes, you arent special and above nature, you got to earn what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:41 AM
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you cant do what you want without earning it, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:19 AM
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i would say usa, london, etc are more disconnected, chaotic and less successful today nature has always won, and will continue, you cant change reality without changing reality. that includes changing day to day actions. until then it will remain the same
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:19 AM
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if the man is superior in every way or most aspects, he is the leaders you are the submissive in that relationship , and statically thats most relationships so women inherently want to be the submissive one, to change leadership gender ratio, this needs to change, but it wont becasue its hard wired biology
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:15 AM
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again causation doesn't equal correlation, that could be due to many other more important reasons it will revert back on its own, nature always wins, whats natural perssists, adn whats forced and fake dies societies were very rich ad successful throughout our entire history without women being leaders, women being leaders isnt necessary for a successful nation
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 02:14 AM
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things will revert back to reality if women dont, you cant count on societal push forever
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:57 PM
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you cant be equal to someone who is better than you you are inherently submissvie and less than him
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:56 PM
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Women Prefer Men to Earn More Studies indicate that financial stability and higher earnings are often seen as attractive traits in potential partners for many women (Buss, 2019). Women Prefer Men to Be Taller Research consistently shows that women tend to prefer taller men (Salska et al., 2008). Women Prefer Men Around 3 Years Older Women typically prefer men who are slightly older, often around three years, due to perceived maturity and stability (Conroy-Beam et al., 2015). Women Prefer Men wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:37 AM
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yes women dont want equals, so men average have to be better, and the gnder that has to be better to be attractive is always going to be more likely the dominate leaders, its all a feedback loop, your preferences shape reality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 12:27 AM
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nope, women prefer men to earn more, women prefer men to be taller than them, and women on average prefer men 3 years older than them, women prefer men with more sexual experience, women prefer men more intelligent than them, women prefer men who are more masculine than them, women prefer men that know how to lead and initiate and pursue, women dont want equals
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:29 PM
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if women preferred equality they would lead men on all levels equally
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:27 PM
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show me stats that women prefer and enjoy leading men in dating relationships, that women prefer submissive men that they can lead, that women initiate, pursue men more and that women prefer being breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:58 AM
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nope it was for all ages and it was a recent study, and again women dont prefer it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:56 AM
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my studies proved that women don't prefer to lead men, dont prefer to be breadwinners and dont prefer to date down and still prefer men with strong leadership and masculine qualities for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:56 AM
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women doing what they want wont lead to leading men if it doesnt involve leading men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:23 AM
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yes so we ahve nothing to argue further about. it will remain the same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:22 AM
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my studies prove women who are successful, prefer to stay single than date down my studies proved that women who are breadwinners are merely tolerating it as there is a 50% higher chance of divorce my studies proved that women still on average value men with strong masculine leadership qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:03 AM
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yes and if doing what they want is not leading men, what do you think the general societal outcome if that will be. use your brain and also google exists, its really easy, you can search things up and also you haven;t linked any sources that owmen prefer to lead men, women love submissive men, women enjoying leading men in dating relationships paying for dates etc and that the amount of those women are steadily and dramatically increasing women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:00 AM
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but the number of women that prefer to be leaders of men in dating, sexual, relationships and financially , isnt increasing. they are tolerating it. but dont prefer it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:49 AM
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again, my studies prove women by large still prefer men to be leaders and arent happy with being breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:47 AM
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not leading men day to day and expecting to be leaders of men is the equivalent to the lazy video game playing loser wanting to be rich, i never said women are lazy. i said they are engaging in day to day habits that wont lead to wide scale leadership and was making an analogy, do you not know what an analogy means?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:46 AM
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if youre okay with things reamaing the way they always were, then i guess i win here. no point arguing further
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:44 AM
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it will remain majority men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:42 AM
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yes but they dont lead men day to day, thats the lazy habits that women have. i was making a correlation. do you not know what that means?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:41 AM
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again most owmen as ive shown still prefer men to be the leaders. you dont have enough women that prefer to lead men for the societal leadership gender ratio to change loongterm
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:40 AM
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you cant play video games, be lazy all day and be leader, your day to day habits have to reflect the role you want, if you dont act like leader on all levels day to day, you can be a leader
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:38 AM
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you can tdo what you want as a leader, you have to do what you must to lead the poeple you want to lead. you cant lead people if you dont lead them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:35 AM
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not enough of them are happy with it, are doing it willingly, and prefer it. sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:34 AM
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not enough, not willingly, not happily, they dont prefer it, and they avoid it much more than they should if they wanted actual change
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:31 AM
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how does that makes sense to you, that you can lead men longterm but not lead men on any day to day level
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:30 AM
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again, the studies prove women dont prefer it, and when they are breadiwnners there is a high likelihood of divorce, and successful women are much more liekly to hold out for leader men that are more successful than them and rather stay single than lead a man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:08 AM
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its like when people were saying, nfts are growing in number that means this is the fuuuutre, then the bubble popped. again you need to change how men view women day to day for men to truely respect women leadership, you cant lead men longterm without building an actual foundation of leadership over men on all levels
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:07 AM
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it will. you cant lead men if you dont lead men on all levels. sorry you need to change how men view oemn day tod day for men to truely be elad and respect women leadership
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:46 PM
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i literally send you 7 studie proving the data doesnt agree with you women dont like leading men, and dont want to lead men in relationships, dating etc and prefer men to lead
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:45 PM
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i mentioned 7 studies that do prove that women dont like leading men, and dont want to lead men in relationships, dating etc and prefer men to lead
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:12 PM
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the tree cant grow tall without the roots growing deeper. women ahve to lead men on all levels, other wise the tree will topple over it jsut seems like you have your head in the sand, like every other investor did when investing in the future of nfts, hoping that it will jsut continue up without actually having a real world reality to it. the reality is women dont lead men on all levels, and until that changes, there is no women leadership foundation being built
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:11 PM
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The idea of women leaders is bubble ready to burst. Similar to industries built on lies or inflated truths, without a foundation of reality, they eventually collapse. The truth always wins, and currently, men still dominate leadership relationship sexual and dating roles. Just as Bitcoin and NFTs weren't based on genuine value and eventually popped, the same will happen with the push for women leaders if it's not rooted in real change. For sustained progress, women must change the foundational d…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:41 AM
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causation does not equal correlation youre creating a connection that may or may not be women weren't forced be men to not be leaders, thats jsut your uneducated femcel distorted version of history a fake distorted reality, wont last,
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:27 AM
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what does that even mean
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:25 AM
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yes it does, becasue the boogeyman men oppressed me narrative isnt real. its your own femcel victim mentality painted history. and a world view built on a lie, wont last
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:47 AM
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nope, sadly to change how men perceive women, it starts at the relationship level, i know you wish they weren't connected, but sadly it is. if men by large view women as passive, weak, receivers, they will assume that of alll women on all levels. sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 01:45 AM
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also saying men oppressed women in the past and that's why women didn't become leaders is way too simplistic. Here’s why: Historical Context: Society’s roles were shaped by economic needs and survival strategies, not just oppression. Women often chose domestic roles because of the physical demands and dangers of many tasks back then that only men could do. Personal Choices: Women made choices based on personal, familial, or community priorities. These choices often led them away from formal lead…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:22 AM
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again i know many recent studies that prove my points Daniels & Rothman (2023): This study found that women who earn more than their husbands are 50% more likely to experience marital infidelity and divorce Institute for Family Studies (2023): Research by Kowalewska and Vitali highlighted that both men and women report lower life satisfaction in female-breadwinner arrangements compared to traditional or dual-earner models. Finkel & Eastwick (2022): A study found that high-earning women are less …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:14 AM
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no this was recent data im talking about again, the men oppressing women boogyman is an oversimplification history, dating is the foundation of society, the relationship between men and women shapes how society functions and how men perceive women,. its not trivial, i dont know why you keep minimizing it, if you dont change the leadership dynamic in relationships you dont have a strong foundation of leadership that will naturally shape soicety to allow women to lead equally. again you cant pick …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:19 AM
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the data says that women who earn more in marriages are 50% more likely to divorcée than marriages where the husband earns more the data say that even in those marriages where women are the higher earners, they still statistically want their partners to bring strong leadership qualities into everyday home life. the data says that high-earning women are much more likely to remain single, partly due to their preference for partners who earn as much or more than they do. so again ill ask do believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 04:17 PM
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so agian you believe women deserve special treatment? and somehow can magically natrally be leaders long term without societal push but not practice it by leading men on all levels day to day? how does that work? and again stop ignoring my points if women enjoyed being breadwinners the marriages where women were breadwinners wouldnt have 50% higher likelhood of divorcing, and also even in those marriages where women are the higher earners, they still statistically want their partners to bring st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:46 PM
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again, your short term memory and reading comprehension is alarming again if women enjoyed being breadwinners the marriages where women were breadwinners wouldnt have 50% higher likelhood of divorcing, and also even in those marriages where women are the higher earners, they still statistically want their partners to bring strong leadership qualities into everyday home life. This fundamental desire shapes everything in society. Women need to change this fundamental desire to change the leadershi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:38 AM
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your short term memory is alarming again if women enjoyed being breadwinners they marriages where women were breadwinners wouldnt have 50% higher likelhood of divorcing, and also even in those marriages where women are the higher earners, they still statistically want their partners to bring strong leadership qualities into everyday home life. This fundamental desire shapes everything in society. Women need to change this fundamental desire to become equal leaders. again If women don't lead men …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 03:10 AM
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nope they dont becasue they dont need to or want to, otherwise if they doid bumble wouldnt have failed men are still dominate leaders day to day over women, dating, relationships, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:27 AM
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nope, i already explained 5 times how women dont lead men day to day and still expect men to lead in many areas. agian youre reading comprehension has failed you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 01:00 AM
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no majority of men have to initiate, pursue, lead in dating relationships and sexually clearly it is special and difficult for women to lead since they cant lead men on all levels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:30 PM
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no thats the thing, men cant, men have to lead on all levels to date, pursue, etc, men are epxected to lead in most areas. so the reward of that is societal leadership becasue men are excepted to take on more responsibility. but you just wan tot sjkip that and be handed it because youre entitled clearly it is special and difficult if women cant lead men on all levels
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:09 PM
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so women are just special, and are entitled to have ther cake and eat it to? why? you think thats how leaders act or entitled children
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:05 PM
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yes becasue oif the societal push, can you actually not read but if you want ot sustain it naturally, you have to actually do the work and build a strong foundation of leadership over men. on all levels day to day. otherwise its not real leadership.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:01 PM
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you cnat pick and choose where to lead if you want have a substantial societal leadership to be women longterm. if you want a substantial societal leadership to be women, you need to take the same amount of responsibility as men do on all levels, you have to earn it. you cnat just get it handed to you and only pick to elad when it benefits you and when it befits you choose to be submissive, that's not how it works
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:24 PM
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short term memory loss strikes agian, again, thats just due to a current societal push, you cant expect that to sustain if on all levels men are still expected to lead and are actually sharpening leadership skills day to day and women aren't becasue they dont want to and dont need to. again you cant pick and choose where you want to lead otherwise its jsut entitlement and entitlement never lasts longterm
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:19 PM
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again, it will revert to the dynamic its always been at if women dont lead men on all levels any more than they did in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:57 PM
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im not talking about data, im talking about basic logic. you cant expect to have equal leadership without equal responsibility. that doesn't make sense, thats jsut entitlement, what makes you so special that you cna have you cake and eat it too?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:46 PM
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Again, only due to a current societal push, you can't lead men if you don't lead men on all levels. You're not developing a real deep foundation of leadership of men; it's top-heavy. If you want it to sustain long-term, you have to take as much responsibility over men as men do with women on a day-to-day basis. Otherwise, it's entitlement to want leadership responsibilities at the top but be submissive and expect men to be leaders on all other levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:38 PM
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they do if they want to lead men, you cna lead men by not leading them, that doesnt make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:52 PM
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you dont think men are still valued by their leadership, in relationship and in bed? women aren't valued for their leadership in relationships and in bed
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:18 PM
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by moist i mean enough for things to revert to the way its always been
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:49 PM
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again, the reality is men still lead women on all levels, so i dont what made up reality you live in again, all my points are still ignored and still stand
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 06:34 AM
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you jsut completely ignored all my points again. again, the men oppressed women boogyman is an oversimplification of history. ill repeat, Even if women are the higher earners, they still statistically want their partners to bring strong leadership qualities into everyday home life. This fundamental desire shapes everything in society. Women need to change this fundamental desire to become equal leaders. again If women don't lead men on all levels—it won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 05:04 AM
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For the fifth time, it's only because of the current societal push. Recent studies have found that marriages where women are the breadwinners are 50% more likely to end in divorce. Even if women are the higher earners, they still statistically want their partners to bring strong leadership qualities into everyday home life. This fundamental desire shapes everything in society. Women need to change this fundamental desire to become equal leaders. again If women don't lead men on all levels—it won…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 03:19 AM
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but still couples where the wife earns more than the husband face higher divorce rates, women dont respect men that are benifth them. it is what it is, women want leaders. so men will most likely be leaders by majority leaders i mean, the level it has always been, meaning mostly things will stay how it has been since the dawn of time
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:18 AM
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marriage rates are at a all time low, men dont want to lead, and women dont want to lead, bumble failed becasue women dont want to initiate or pursue, if women enjoyed leading and being breadwinners and men enjoyed being lead, marriage rate wouldn't be at the lowest its ever been sorry, until women have equal responsibility over men as men do with women, it will always favour men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 02:08 AM
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it still is because men are leaderrs on all levels still, until women are leaders of men on all levels, it will always favour men its only increased because of societal push, can you not read? yes it is, you cant pick and choose where you want to lead, thats not how it works the gender that takes the most amount of resposibilty on all levels, is most likely to lead, thats jsut how life works, im sorry, to have equal leadership you need to take equal responsibilty on all levles otherwise youre js…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 01:34 AM
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you're completely missing the point here. How the hell are women supposed to naturally step into leadership roles when men are constantly leading and directing them at every damn level of society? You keep brushing off what I'm saying instead of actually addressing it. Day in and day out, women are conditioned to follow men's lead - at home, at work, everywhere. With that kind of ingrained dynamic, how are women magically going to start taking charge without any societal push to break that patte…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 03:38 PM
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there is a consequence to not needing to lead, can you not connect the dots there
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:38 AM
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only becasue its made easy for them with quotas, and a societal push its like a rich kid saying "its easy to make money" of course when your parents made it easy for you. and no, women clearly dont find it easy to lead since men still lead women on all levels and women cant lead men in dating and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:21 AM
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part of being leaders is doing what you must. no men dont have a choice, men ahve to lead, especially in relationships and dating process, and this bleeds into all areas of life. women dont need status, or money to be seen as valuable, men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:11 AM
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Picking and choosing where you lead sounds pretty entitled, doesn't it? Like wanting the crown without the responsibility. Think about it this way: if men see women as constantly on the receiving end, not taking charge day-to-day, how do you expect that to translate to society as a whole? There's a reason men have historically been leaders, and it's not just some "oppression boogeyman" explanation. It's about responsibility. The gender that takes the most responsibility across the board, that's …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 02:04 AM
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yes becasue there is a societal push, but if you want women to naturally lead without it, longterm, you have to lead men on all levels, otherwise it wilkl always revert ot the gender thats actually leading the other on the day to day level women for the most part have never been eladers, one queen every now and then but not on average. and this will continue to be the way if women dont lead men on all levels That's because these areas shape how society and men view and treat women, which then sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:58 AM
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If you want women to lead naturally longterm, in the long run, they have to lead men on all levels Imagine putting 100 men and 100 women on an island. Guys will take charge and lead 99% of the time, due to mens daily routines and acitons, ingrained skills, and physical differences. Women would only lead if another group forced thos emen to allow women to lead. Naturally, they wouldn't lead those 100 men So, for women to lead naturally, they need to lead in all aspects of life, including dating a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:54 AM
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again, i dont know if you have short term memory loss or reading comprehension issues, they dont lead men on all levels, including dating, relationships etc. if women dont lead on all levels, the default leaders of society will always be men
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:44 AM
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there has been 100 years of no barriers, exclusion and oppression, women still dont lead men, dating , relationships. women dont want to lead, if they did bumble wouldn't have failed, and marriages wouldnt be at its lowest its ever been. if women dont lead on all levels, the default leaders of society will always be men. if you brought 100 man and 100 women on an island, men would naturally become the leaders, thats jsut how it is, you would need to force those men with 200 other men to inforce …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:40 AM
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again are you jsut ignoring what im saying? women by large aren't leading men, dating, or relationships, sorry, if they were bumble wouldnt have failed and again, without societal push you wont be, becasue men still are doing the work of leading women on all levels. men dont need a societal push to make them leaders, its natural, and learnt though day to day habits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:21 AM
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if women enjoyed being breadwinners and leading men, marriage rates wouldn't be at the lowest its ever been and bumble wouldnt have failed
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:24 PM
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again women by large aren't leading men, dating, or relationships, sorry, if they were bumble wouldnt have failed women have been allowed to lead men for a century and still cant lead dating, relationships and men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:13 PM
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without societal push you wont be, becasue men still are doing the work of leading women on all levels. men dont need a societal push to make them leaders, its natural, and learnt though day to day habits
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:53 PM
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no women by large aren't leading men, dating, or relationships, sorry, if they were bumble wouldnt have failed what laws
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:26 PM
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so youre just entitled to leadership without any of the actual day to day work? you think you can just lead at the top, without actually leading at the bottom too, thats not how life works. "i only want to lead in ceo positions but everything else i want to be submissive, passive, and not the leader with no main responsibility "
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:19 PM
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AGAIN if you want that to sustain leadership naturally without that push, you need ot lead men on the day to day level so that it isnt top heavy. you can't selectively choose where you want to lead. It's all connected; Either you lead on all levels, or you don't. eventually without that societal push, society will return to whats real day to day
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:12 PM
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reality is men are leading day to day on all levels, sorry. you cant pick and choose where you want to lead It's all connected; Either you lead on all levels, or you don't. clearly women do find it hard to lead since they cant lead men on the day to day level
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:39 PM
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there is 100% a societal push for women leaders, but agian, if you want that to sustain naturally without that push, you need ot lead men on the day to day level so that it isnt top heavy. again you can't selectively choose where you want to lead. It's all connected; Either you lead on all levels, or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 04:04 AM
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as soon as there is no societal push you wont . you cant compete with the average men that are actually sharpeninnig their leadership skills on the day to day level. again you can't selectively choose where you want to lead. It's all connected; Either you lead on all levels, or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:12 AM
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because of the societal push, just like bumble was a societal push, but eventually reality hit, and settled. and it reverted back to the gender that actually was motivated to lead initiate and pursue, which is men im sorry, you cant pick and choose where you want to lead It's all connected; you can't selectively choose where you want to lead. Either you lead on all levels, or you don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 01:02 AM
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Again, dating dictates how society functions in the long term and influences men's views of women. If women are passive in dating and merely receivers, rather than action takers and leaders, this shapes society and how women are perceived. It's all connected; you can't selectively choose where you want to lead. Either you lead on all levels, or you don't. Without societal push, the balance will revert to the gender that is actively leading day-to-day because that gender is building deep roots an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:49 PM
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becasue it doesnt have a solid foundation of women leading men on a day to day basis, without this current societal push it will revert to the gender that is leading day to day, men why is it so hard for women to elad day to day relationships and daitng, if youw ant equal leadership societally , thats all you have to do. why are you fighting this so much
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:20 AM
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well until thy do, nothing will change, and will always revert to the gender that is leading day to day
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 02:16 AM
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again how do you expect women to equally lead longterm without this current societal push , if still on all levels men are the only gender sharping their leaderships skills and are actually the ones still responsible and motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:51 AM
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most women worked i dont knwo what youre yapping about women often worked on family farms,many women worked in factories, textile mills, and as domestic servants. yes but without that day to day level of leading men, it wont last becasue what is sitll real is men leading women on the day to day level.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:33 AM
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I honestly think you have reading comprehension issues. Women in leadership roles are there because of societal pushes and quotas, which means it's top-heavy without deep roots. Eventually, it will topple over. The gender that leads on a day-to-day level builds a strong foundation for long-term leadership. Without continued societal push, this won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:21 AM
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yes and that is the reason why men are motivated to lead, its all a feedback loop. women dont need ot iniaite, or take action, the consequence of that is they average dont develop the neccesary skills to lead , again ill repeat it doesnt matter what the reason it is, ebcasue men are the only ones doing it they are on average the only gender developing those skills women arent leading on all levels, thats the problem, only men are. you cant pick and choose where you want to lead, it either n all …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 01:16 AM
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Initiating and approaching is clearly challenging,. It’s a skill that requires confidence and practice. Reducing it to men being "thirsty" oversimplifies the complexities of social interactions and individual preferences. and woimen still dont do, it doesnt matter what the reason it is, ebcasue men are the only ones doing it they are on average the only gender developing those skills While modern dating practices are relatively new, the concept of romantic relationships and courtship has existed…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:31 AM
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Dating is not a small part of reality; it's the bedrock of society. It's the reason we're here—to procreate. The fundamental relationship between men and women shapes societal norms and functions. If in relationships and dating, women remain passive, reserved, and unwilling to be take action, they wont be taken seriously as leaders, this behavior will permeate all aspects of society. This dynamic is a key factor in why we have a patriarchy. There's currently a push for more women leaders, but un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:44 PM
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Dating is not a small part of reality; it's the bedrock of society. It's the reason we're here—to procreate. The fundamental relationship between men and women shapes societal norms and functions. If in relationships and dating, women remain passive, reserved, and unwilling to be taken seriously as leaders, initiators, and pursuers, this behavior will permeate all aspects of society. This dynamic is a key factor in why we have a patriarchy. There's currently a push for more women leaders, but un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:30 PM
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All the skills in dating are transferable into business and success. They are heavily interlinked. These are all the skills men on average learn because they take charge in the dating process: Resilience Adaptability Persistence Active Listening Clear Articulation Empathy Self-Confidence Self-Reflection Building Rapport Reading Body Language Handling Disagreements Negotiation Setting Goals Strategic Planning Managing Emotions Motivation All those skills are transferable to business, and on avera…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:10 PM
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All the skills you pick up in dating are transferable to business. They’re closely connected. Men, on average, learn these skills because they often take the lead in the dating process. Here are the key skills: Resilience Adaptability Persistence Active Listening conversational leading Clear Articulation Empathy Self-Confidence Self-Reflection Building Rapport Reading Body Language Handling Disagreements handling rejection Negotiation Setting Goals Strategic Planning Managing Emotions Motivation…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:08 PM
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no its ebcasue women enjoy men approaching them and dont feel the need to take action, ebcasue they dont need to, so they dont develop those leading action taking skills
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:58 PM
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women still want to obey and submit, otherwise, bumble wouldnt have failed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:53 PM
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they had to remove the need for women to inaite becasue they realised women dont want to take charge, and allowing men to lead is the only way for an app to survive longterm
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:41 PM
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not enough women, thats the problem, if there were, bumble wouldn't have failed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:18 PM
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i siad passive receiver and action taker, again, you arent reading what im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:15 AM
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no you misinterpreted and ignored many of my points
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:49 AM
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you cnat make up a point i didnt say, or misinterpret my point then disagree with that straw manned point
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:45 AM
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you jsut ignored what i actually said again, you have a habit of that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:34 AM
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youre just actively ignoring what im writing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 04:23 AM
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again women are still the receivers and submissive in day-to-day interactions with men. Men are the pursuers and action-takers. This dynamic forms the bedrock of how society functions and shapes the way men and women interact and view each other. if men are still the ones expected to sharpen their leaderships skills on the day to day level form the ground up, that has a strong foundation of leadershhip, womens leaderships is based solely on a s societal push, it doesn't have deep roots imbedded …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:30 AM
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living in reality, women arent doing that to any significant amount. if they did bumble wouldn't have failed
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:22 AM
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It’s significantly fewer, and wiht most i meant over 90% of cases, women are still the receivers and submissive in day-to-day interactions with men. Men are the pursuers and action-takers. This dynamic forms the bedrock of how society functions and shapes the way men and women interact and view each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:17 AM
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It’s significantly fewer, with over 90% of cases showing that women are still the receivers and submissive in day-to-day interactions with men. Men are the pursuers and action-takers. This dynamic forms the bedrock of how society functions and shapes the way men and women interact and view each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:17 AM
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No, men still lead most dating interactions, dating processes, and relationships. On average, men are more likely to be breadwinners and enjoy being in that role. and Women aren't getting married as much because they don't want to be breadwinners and don't enjoy it. we would see a rise in marriages if both men enjoyed being stay at home husbands and women enjoyed being breadiwnner, but we arent seeing this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:07 AM
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again women do not lead men on the day to day level, in dating, relationships and general day to day interactions with men. sorry. thats still a mans responsibility and men are still the only gender that are actually sharping their leaderships skills on the day to day and are still the only gender motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 03:01 AM
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again im talking about all levels, please read what im saying, men on average are the only gender that are actually sharping their leaderships skills on the day to day and are still the only gender motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:58 AM
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its not even close to equal, not even a third. men on average are the only gender that are sharping their leaderships skills and are still motivated to initiate pursue and lead on all levels
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:54 AM
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again, there are still more men on average that are sharping their leaderships skills and are still motivated to initiate pursue and lead than the average woman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:51 AM
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yes thats the current societal push im talking about, without that, once it settles it will always revert to whats real, and if men are the only ones leading on all levels on the day day level, women wont lead for long. if you force one group to group corn and eat corn but they dont want to plow the fields, pick the corn cobs and have no interest in eating corn but only want to own the companies, and there is another group of people that love corn, pick to corn, plow the fields all day everyday,…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:46 AM
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can you not read? without this current soicetal push it will always revert back to what is real, men leading. becasue men still on all levels are the only gender sharping their leaderships skills and are actually the ones still responsible and motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:41 AM
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women wont lead in any number more than they did in the past if they dont lead on all levels in a significant numbers. it will always revert back to what is real, men leading. becasue men still on all levels men are the only gender sharping their leaderships skills and are actually the ones still responsible and motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:38 AM
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do you have short term memory loss? again how do you expect women to equally lead longterm without this current societal push , if still on all levels men are the only gender sharping their leaderships skills and are actually the ones still responsible and motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:21 AM
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to lead you have to lead, you cant lead if you dont lead. that doesnt make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 01:14 AM
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again they have to earn it on all levels that men already do, which they aren't you cant pick and choose where to lead, it has to be on all levels that men already lead on a day to day basis do you have short term memory loss or are just not reading what im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 08:19 AM
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you cant be gifted that choice without having a basis in reality, it cant come form thin air, women have to earn it just like men have by leading women on a day to day basis
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:20 AM
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how do you expect that women lead longterm ins society equally if on all levels its still men leading? how does that work, you cant pick and choose where you want to lead again how do you expect women to equally lead longterm without societal push , if still on all levels men are the only gender sharping their leaderships skills and are actually the ones still responsible and motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:59 AM
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not on all levels, which is required to create a strong stable foundation for longeterm change
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:32 AM
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if you want an improvement for the past aka not ahve a patriarchy, where its mostly men leading, then you need to. if it doesnt change it will revert back to normal, you cant change things longterm if women dont change their behavior longterm
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:27 AM
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to be equal leaders ins society as men, women need to lead men on all levels to the same degree is men lead women on all levels, you cant pick and choose where you want to lead, its all connected can yu not read ive literally explalined the rebuttle to this 4 times already, why do you keep forgetting
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:21 AM
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now youre jsut being silly If women were leading, pursuing, and initiating with men to the same degree as men do, Bumble wouldn't have changed its course. Additionally, women aren't approaching men on the street or DMing them to the same extent that men are. Women also aren't leading, paying for dates, or picking up men on dates as frequently as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:33 AM
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again how do you expect women to equally lead longterm without societal push , if still on all levels men are the only gender sharping their leaderships skills and are actually the ones still responsible and motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:30 AM
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how do you expect women to equally lead longterm without societal push , if still on all levels men are the only gender sharping their leaderships skills and are actually the ones still responsible and motivated to initiate pursue and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:19 AM
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no, quotas are very common. and society is pushing for women to be leaders beasue feminism is the dominate media narrative. but without a real stable foundation for women actually leading men on the day to day level, it will never last. becasue women arent actally sharping their leaderships skills on all levels like men are still
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:16 AM
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do you have short tem memory loss? i clearly sai its being pushed with quotas, but as soon as it settles, just like ti did with bumble, it will revert back to whats real, revert back to the gender thats actually sharpening their leadership skills on the day to day basis, which its still men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:11 AM
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can you not read? did you not read what i wrote and repeated 3 times already
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:05 AM
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exactly, becasue women dont need to lead so they dont, still proves my point why men soley develop leaderships skills
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 03:02 AM
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but the business model depends on what reality is, they cnat make money if by large women refuse to initiate still, biology is biology, and the4y realised they cant change it longterm, it was a fun flash in the pan, but as soon as it settled, it reverted back to reality
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:58 AM
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can you not read?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:52 AM
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yes becasue theyre forcing it currently liek bumble forced women to initiate for a decade, but the reality hit that men are actually the ones practicing initiating and pursuing on day to day and they had to accept the reality that will ever change , but as soon as it settles, men will always overtake back, it will revert back to men leading majority becasue men are the only ones sharpening theyre leadership skills on a day to day level
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:45 AM
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again, you can force women to be leaders for the short term, jsut like bumble forced women to iniiate for the short temr, but eventually it fails because there is no foundation reality of women actually doing the work and changing their behavior to support that change It will always revert back to what's real: men leading women on a day-to-day basis. you cant force women to be solely leaders at the macro scale ad have that last longterm , if at the micro they're still not leaders of men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:41 AM
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Again, it won't last because it's not based on a stable foundation where women and men lead equally on a day-to-day level. It will always revert back to what's real: men leading women on a day-to-day basis. Just like Bumble reverted back to men initiating contact, biology is biology. Bumble would still thrive if women became equal initiators and pursuers of men, but that never happened. Similarly, in leadership across all areas, it will always revert back to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:28 AM
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yes because men control the world and they cant change it, ebcasue they believe they can change it by complaining, but you cant. the only way is the equally lead men to the same degree as men lead women on a day to day absis, like i already explain, but women don't want to do that. so it will never change, it wont change by simply earning more money and ignoring marrying men, you have to equally elad men as men lead women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:19 AM
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you see no indication that women by large complaining about the patriarchy? you have to be joking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:16 AM
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women do
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:13 AM
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well feminists are still complaining about the patriarchy, so......
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 02:09 AM
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hence why men will always be in charge, you know youre jsut proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:52 AM
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again, women are just as bad and lack nurturing qualities nowadays, yet men still want to marry them, why cant women? its because they only value men and willing to put up with any negative qualities when the man earns more than them and are more masculine and leaders because thats the true thing women value
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:17 AM
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you think women are perfectly nutruing? yet men are still dating them, why cant owmen? becasue want them they only value men that earn more than them and are more masculine and leadeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 12:18 AM
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plenty of submissive supportive men, you cleary have a type thats not those men, cause youre only seeking out men that use you like a bang maid
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:51 PM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:50 PM
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Nope, that's why Bumble backtracked on the requirement for women to initiate. Women don't want to do it because biology is biology. You can't change it just because you want to. They tried, and it failed. Men will continue to lead because it's ingrained in us to do all the things I listed. Unless women also start leading in all those areas (which will never happen), only then will there be an opportunity for equal leadership for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:33 PM
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plenty of submissive men that wont treat you like that,
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:31 PM
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but again, women arent changing as i listened men are still responsible for all those things on average much more than women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:29 PM
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exactly you view stay at home husbands as scared and lazy, thanks for proving my point you cant have dominate aggressive masculine men that are caring and supportive, if you want masculine men sadly he wont be your support role. you will ahve to be that for him
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:28 PM
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Men are usually the ones planning dates, deciding on activities, locations, and timing. They're often the ones paying for dates. Men take the lead in expressing romantic interest through gestures, compliments, or direct communication, both in public and online. Men are typically the ones proposing marriage, initiating and pursuing physical intimacy, and handling conflicts by taking charge in resolving misunderstandings within the relationship. They also provide protection and security. On a larg…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:25 PM
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plenty of feminie nurturing submissive men these days, women dont want them, they want men more dominate than them, earn atleast as much as them but preferably more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:17 PM
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if women do not equally lead men in all areas as men do with women, they will never achieve equal opportunity for leadership in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:58 PM
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nah, marriage rates are at a all time low
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:41 PM
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are you just actively ignoring what im saying? if women do not equally lead men in all areas as men do with women, they will never achieve equal leadership in society. that includes dating and everything, not just being ceos. everyhting women have to equally lead and we arent seeing that in soicety
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 02:41 PM
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but there is no point adapting if women dont want house hsubands and still desire men to laad them
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:05 AM
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yes so feminists need ot just accept men will always be the dominate leaders If women do not equally lead men in all areas as men do with women, they will never achieve equal leadership in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 07:04 AM
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yes hence why it will never work and why men will always lead, it will always revert back to the leading gender, if most men refuse to be lead, and most women prefer men to be leaders, that strucutre will remain
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:51 AM
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women dont want it, women with high paying jobs choose to be single ebcasue they dont want to date down, becasue they are still looking for men to lead them in the relationship, becasue thats thee dynamic most women still desire
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:41 AM
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If women do not equally lead men in all areas as men do with women, they will never achieve equal leadership in society. The balance will always revert eventually to the gender that leads in all areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:40 AM
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Women could lead men, marry men who earn less, provide less, and be the leader in the relationship while the man is submissive. However, many women do not want this dynamic because they prefer not to lead men, often choosing not to get married as a result. If women truly enjoyed being the leader in the relationship, they wouldn't mind marrying men who provide nothing but love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:37 AM
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youre not even reading what im saying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:35 AM
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can you not read? ill repeat, it will always eventually revert back to a majority leadership being men because Men tend to lead in all areas, while women typically do not. Things will always revert back to men leading because, in reality, men are the ones who lead women on a day-to-day basis. women dont lead men on a day to day basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:32 AM
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yes and women dont want to lead men, thats why they arent getting married even though they are getting successful and could easily do so
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 06:31 AM
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again, most people in charge of most companies and countries and systems are men, and it will remain that way becasue men have to lead in all areas,w omen dont, so they most likely wont be leaders longterm and things will always revery back to men leading becasue thats whats real due to men actuially leading women day to day
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:34 AM
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again, clearly women dont like leading theyre just doing it out of spite, becasue if women wanted to lead they would do it happily and marriage rates wouldnt be at a all time low
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:32 AM
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yes so that will remain the power structure, do you have gold fish memory or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:12 PM
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yes, but men had to be forced in to war, are you joking me? most men got nothing out of work etheir, what are you yapping about
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:11 PM
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so clearly women dont like leading theyre just doing it out of spite, becasue if women wanted to lead they would do it happily and marriage rates wouldnt be at a all time low
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 04:10 PM
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yet the rate of marriage is dropping as women dont date down and hate the idea of being breadwinners
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:57 PM
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msot people leading on all levels form dating, to relationships, to companies to countries are men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:57 PM
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you really think women didnt work? you clearly dont know history, most women worked, only a small percent of women could even afford to be stay at home moms, most men couldn't vote and make decisions ether only rich land owners could , most men didnt ha ve a choice and had to work hard labor all day., most men didnt have kids, only 30% of men actually passed on their genes historically
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:56 PM
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men will always be the leaders of society becasue men are the ones leading on all levels, just like in the make up industry if most epoepl buying and wearing make up are women, that structure of being female focused remains
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:53 PM
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if you force more makeup influencers to be men to equal out the representation, but most men still dont wear makeup but only women do, the industry will remain female focused
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:49 PM
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what data, you cant force what has no foundation. a businesses built on a lie will always crumble to what its really worth, nothing, if most women in society dont lead in all levels, and men do. thats the power structure that remains
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:48 PM
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the opportunists are forced, not established, it will be taken away due to the natural consequence of it not being based on any real life action a flash in the pan, but it awlays reverts back to what is real, and if most owmne dont lead and men do, thats the real that it reverts abck to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:40 PM
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the opportunists are forced, not established, it will be taken away due to the natural consequence of it not being based on any real life action a flash in the pan, but it awlays reverts back to what is real, and if most owmne dont lead and men do, thats the real that it reverts abck to
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:38 PM
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the opportunists are forced, not established, it will be taken away due to the natural consequence of it not being based on any real life action
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:37 PM
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expect all the ones that benefit them of course
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:36 PM
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and again feminists are the women complaining about women not being leaders in the first place, most normal women don't care as they understand men and women have different roles youre a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:33 PM
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we cant have equal opportunity out of thin air, it has to have basis in actual daily action. if most women choose not to lead, the natural consequence of that is women wont lead. the opportunity will never be there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:30 PM
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i never said the blowjobs needed to be good in my post, so plenty of men offer free oral to women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:22 PM
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again men offer that all the time, unless youre very unattractive that is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:17 PM
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not third in leading the dating process, is my point, all levels women need to equally lead, the mico ratio has to be the same for the macro ratio to be the same i would say most of those women arent satisfied with the fact that they are breadwinners, thats the main issue here
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:15 PM
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men offer that all the time, unless youre very unattractive that is
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:11 PM
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we have to for feminsits to stop complaining, if you want a third of leaders to be women on all levels, that means a third of women have to become leaders in relationships that will never happen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:07 PM
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not enough for women to equally be leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:01 PM
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you have to be joking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:01 PM
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if you think the average man has access to sex to the same degree as the average woman, youre delusional. mens body count has no link to women's body count so you cant use their body count as a basis for women's.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 09:28 AM
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why are you mentioning swords wtf are you yapping about, i mentioned men with drones multiple times, can you not read?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:57 AM
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again, there is no accurate data on this, and women lie thorugh their teeth about their body count, id say the average woman has slept with at least 15 men by the age of 35
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:30 AM
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men offer free sex all the time, drive and leadership connects deeply with sexual drive and sexual motivation
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:29 AM
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it wont last becasue women naturally are attracted to men that are leaders biology always wins
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:28 AM
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yes to get that option more women have to know how to lead in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:24 AM
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you underestimate the strength of 1000 violent brutal men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:24 AM
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brut violence with weapons trumps brains with weapons, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/24 03:23 AM
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when did i say most men were in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:27 AM
1

yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:27 AM
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is that where you found your source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:18 AM
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lol sure, women are sooo honest with their body count
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:18 AM
1

so other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:17 AM
0

what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:01 AM
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you think they have accurate data on this, be fr
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:01 AM
1

who said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:01 AM
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whose going to stop them form leading?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 11:00 AM
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you cant nnuke your own city bro what are you yapping about ill say it again 1000 spartan men with weapons could wipe out 100,000 women so 5000 men could do the job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:59 AM
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sorry, 1000 spartan men with weapons could wipe out 100,000 women. any sports game between men and women, and historical war evidence proves this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:28 AM
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just look at history, its not delusion, its fact a small group of savage men with weapons could easily over throw 10,000 government women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:24 AM
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give those 1000 men drones....
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:23 AM
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equal in delsuion, but in any other area men and women are not egalitarian in any way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 10:23 AM
1

1000 savage men could easily over throw a government of women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:52 AM
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i think many women are whores and love getting fucked by many men. most women these days ave high body counts, due to easy sex, so no
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:51 AM
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to take on women you would need to kill them, all men would need to do is over throw the government thats no more than 10, 000 important people, easy for 1000 savages
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:50 AM
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1 man isnt an army
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:49 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:48 AM
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again can you not read, you wou;dnt need to kill 1 million women to overthrow a matriarchy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:47 AM
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so are you saying women are cooked then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:46 AM
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so be delusional?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:45 AM
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you clearly underestimate how violent men could be, give 1000 men drones tanks and guns, women would be no match, im sorry. there is a reason why matriarchies dont exist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:44 AM
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a small group of men with drones and weapons would make it easy work. you are clearly unaware how violent and aggressive men can get. women could never match that
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:37 AM
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not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:36 AM
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some men will be and they will be easily enslaved, but barbarian men always win against matriarchies, thats why no such matriarchy exists today
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:30 AM
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you think we would need to kill a million women? no just 10,000 important women, and over throw the gov, easy work for 1000 savage murderous men
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:27 AM
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you think men are scared of women in charge? be fr. a small handful of svage men could wipe out a city of women, without worry. , so again, with that in mind why would men not force this beneficial dynamic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:18 AM
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sorry strong men could easily over throw any women run country, easily. thats why those dont exist thus far.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:15 AM
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sadly with submission comes many negatives, you cant have a perfect world
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:07 AM
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to 90% of people easy access to difficult to obtain things is desirable, dont act high and mighty
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:07 AM
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men could easily over power a government of women, sorry. not worried in the slightest, so again, with that in mind why would men not force this beneficial dynamic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:05 AM
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yes thats my point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:03 AM
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what are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 09:03 AM
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what does this have to do with incels at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 08:02 AM
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why does pride in fulfillment in being leaders matter when men could jsut gwet easy sex, no responsibility, no stress about status or wealth, dont need to innate anything. and have the ability to take back control whenever, sounds like an amazing choice if men could actually force that we can guarantee it, we are bigger, and stronger and more violent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:51 AM
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someone has to submit to the leader, it cant be the leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:48 AM
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why would ego matter, if men got all the benefits i listed without any of the responsibility and the ability to take back control whenever?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:48 AM
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im talking about the beneficial dynamic of my post for men, yeah but they get to lead since leading is so important to women, they can make all the decisions and initiate everything
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 07:46 AM
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which is one of the main reasons why men are in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:58 AM
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we cna get all the benefits i listed, without any of the responsibility and requirements, and be able to take back charge whenever we want, why wouldn't men do this if we could truly force women to do anything
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:54 AM
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answer me this quesiton, if men were in charge why would they not create this beneficial dynamic? we have strength to protect ourselves, so if women treat us too badly we can jsut take charge again, but in the mean time give women full responsibility over everything. why wouldnt men create this dynamic if they could truely force women into doing anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:46 AM
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leave religion out of this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:41 AM
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well without the masculine drive its impossible to become a leader
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:40 AM
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but we have strength to protect ourselves, so if women treat us too badly we can jsut take charge again, but in the mean time give women full responsibility over everything if men were in charge why would they not create this beneficial dynamic?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:40 AM
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why wouldnt men find it beneficial
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:38 AM
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sounds pretty nice to me, women hitting on me all the time, easy abundant sex, free dates, dinners, drinks, get to work and have women provide for me, women protect me, initiate every contact, and do all the hard work of leading
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 06:11 AM
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they want their cake and to eat it too, the good parts of leadership, money and status, but the good things of being the pampered and pursued sex. its starting to seem like women are actually in charge........
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:11 AM
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yes exactly, if men truly controlled everything and women were forced, why would they not force that beneficial dynamic........
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 05:07 AM
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and?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:51 AM
-1

i dont think the term have my cake and eat it too works in this scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:50 AM
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im talking about leading soicety, if you want women to lead society, more women have to know how to lead in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 04:48 AM
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yes so my point still stands then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:17 AM
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okay
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:16 AM
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oops allgood
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:15 AM
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and? the desire of sex is in gay men too. when i siad desire for reproduction, i meant the general desire o sexual intercourse
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:15 AM
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so why even mention that point
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:13 AM
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but thats exactly why men shouldn't fear women in charge, bacasue we can always take it back, and jsut get the benefits such as the ones i listed, why would men not be okay with this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:10 AM
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now the justifications come out, interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:09 AM
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whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:07 AM
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they most likely dont have peace, they are just content in their suffering
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:07 AM
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we will always be bigger and stronger , we have nothing to fear and could easily take it back, without worry you cna take lead and give us all the benefits i listed. if men were smart why would men not want this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:06 AM
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ive stated my opinions many times, you keep answering with vague statements and questions if you want to debate my points, you have to amke your points so that i can respond to them, im not doing your job for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 03:00 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:59 AM
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well you need those same sexual inclinations to have the same motivation to acquire the necessary leader ship and value qualities that make good leaders, there is no better motivation for power than the desire for reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:59 AM
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you cant live in peace without power, thats how the world works, unless you live in a fantasy land
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:57 AM
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women do in general
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:53 AM
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is it also why physical crime is mostly committed by black men specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:52 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:52 AM
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again, if you want to interact with the points i made, let me know.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:51 AM
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you tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:50 AM
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the power between men and women, the average guy physical power over most women doesn't mean all men have general societal power
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:47 AM
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we have strength and height to our advantage, we cna give you power and get all the beinfits. and not worry casue we can always take it back, why would men be against this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:46 AM
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man, for being naturally evil and aggressive we sure are told that we are naturally aggressive and evil a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:45 AM
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whats stopping you from leading, why would men not want the things i jsut listed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:44 AM
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im sure if most men got all the benefits form women leading like i listed they wouldn't care about their own Pride, ego. becasue if women step over bound and do things we dont like,. we can easily just take back the power, men arent threatened at all
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:43 AM
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this is why men are in power, ebcasue they need to be to be chosen by women, you just made my point. thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:42 AM
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sex is the foundation of the relationship between men and women an society, to lead men you ahve to take charge in all areas
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:41 AM
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I'm not sure what point you're making. Most men would be fine with women being in charge and doing everything I listed We're not threatened. We can have women lead, pay for everything, and give us easy sex, with no pressure to obtain status or money because women would handle that. If they step out of line, we can just take the control back. Why would men be against this?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:40 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:35 AM
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you cant lead them otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:34 AM
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to lead men, you need to lead men in all areas, you cant pick and choose when to lead men. the reason why men lead is partly ebcasue they are more motivated for sex, which motivated them to pursue women and lead the daitng process, if you want women to lead, they have to take over this process aswell as other things to become leaders of society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:32 AM
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again, this isnt about all men, but comparing the power between men ann women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:30 AM
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you jsut said youreself women dont want to, not youre saying the opposite, which one is it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:30 AM
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you cant answer with a question, if youre not willing to engage, them ill end it here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:29 AM
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what
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:29 AM
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why are you ignoring my quesiton, answer it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:26 AM
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you cant lead men by not wanting to lead them, that doesnt make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:25 AM
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youre always depended on people with recourses and power
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:24 AM
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sex is the pinnacle of interaction between men and women, i dont know if you know that or not. its the foundation of society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:24 AM
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The reason women aren’t often in charge is that, generally, they don't want to lead men. Men, on the other hand, would gladly accept easy sex, having their expenses covered, and avoiding the pressure of acquiring status and money. It's not about men forcing women out of leadership; it's that many women simply don't want to lead men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:23 AM
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why would men be against women taking charge, having easy sex, women paying for everything, initiating, and leading the dating process without the expectation of needing money and value to get it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:22 AM
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you cant lead men then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:18 AM
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youre jsut giving femcel opinion on how much you devalue men, thats not engaging with my point. if you want to interact with the points i made, let me know. casue again you cant lead men by ignoring them and being a women go there own way femcel, you have to interact and engage with men to lead them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:18 AM
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this isnt about all men, but comparing the power between men ann women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:16 AM
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no money equates to power, true dominance and leadership
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:15 AM
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youre not making any points, if you have an argument with actual points let me know, say "nuh uh its more complex" is not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:15 AM
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debate otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:13 AM
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if men got free sex, women hitting on them all the time, and didnt have to earn money or status to do so, why would men not want to be "subservient" because if women step over board we can always take back the power with our strength
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:08 AM
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if men benefited from women leading men wouldn't resist it, again no man would say no to women hitting on them daily, paying for their food and drinks and getting easy sex, if yall want to lead men, please do, none of would resist it. but you wont because its not men holding you back its your own selves and your own ingrained biology such as being mothers and have kids
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:07 AM
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you cant lead men by ignoring them and being a women go there own way femcel, you have to interact and engage with men to lead them
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 02:06 AM
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exactly, just the way it is, biology is biology
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 01:39 AM
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yes it does since marriage rates are tremendously down and women find most men un marriageable ebcasue they would be dating down if they did marry them. women will always value leadership and action in men. its hard wired in their brains
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/24 12:00 AM
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none of that proved that women dont want to and prefer dating men who are leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:29 PM
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women by large prefer men to lead, just casue most modern men are fat video game nerds doesnt negate my point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:49 PM
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i didn't say all men were in charge and ceos, i said most men are leaders of women. women by large prefer men to lead
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:14 PM
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thats all a feedback loop, men being horny is what leads them to pursue and act, which leads to men developing leadshi[p qualities wich leads to men running the world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:43 PM
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men often pursue women for sex, lead relationships, are expected to pay take responsibility, and initiate and take action to create most relationships, this results in men being more likely to become leaders and run countries and companies. These behaviors transfer into other areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 02:41 PM
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yes, and
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:11 AM
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biology is what dictates things, again, women by large prefer to be lead than lead men, and it will always be this way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 08:06 AM
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you cant update biology, thats ingrained into us, unless youre an alien women by large prefer to be lead than lead men, and it will always be this way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:59 AM
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men are in power, but women secretly want it that way. and its not a bad thing women by large prefer to be lead than lead, and this dictates how societies function in return
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:50 AM
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The interactions between men and women shape cultural norms and values. These relationships influence art, education, and social behaviors, which in turn define the cultural identity of a society.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:41 AM
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The relationship between men and women often forms the basis of family units, which are the building blocks of society. Strong partnerships lead to stable families, fostering environments where children grow up with a sense of security and social norms. These stable family units collectively contribute to the overall stability and function of communities, cities, and countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:40 AM
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the dynamic between men and women dictates how society functions, men and womens relationship is the micro of how cities cultures and countries function
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:37 AM
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again you have a simple view on history no its a sign that owmen prefer to be lead and not lead, pelase learn to read and stop making straw man arguments and over simplifying my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 07:35 AM
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only if enforced by the real people in charge, other men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:59 AM
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yes the idea that men forced women to be not leaders is a simple view on history they aren't forced, who is forcing women to not initiate men on dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:55 AM
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thats a minority of women, and yes everything in soicety is linked to the dynamic and relationship between men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:54 AM
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im sorry but history isn't that simple, the men stopped us boogyman argument is too simplistic and flawed. women by large dont want to lead men, they want to be lead. thats how its always been. men didnt choose tihs and force women into this dynamic, its natural, its built into us. nature will always win, and bumble backtracking is another example of this
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:34 AM
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even outside dating, its all connected
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:29 AM
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women are still choosing the same men and acting the same today on average, sorry. you need to rmeove the men stopping me boogyman and also if you think women were oppressed for 1000s of years and only recently been able to make decisions, you have a flawed understanding of history, history is not that linear or that simple i bet you stupidly think that men could vote for 1000s of years and women couldn't vote for 1000s of years, no, those make good support roles all my points still stand
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:28 AM
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Men often have a higher drive for sex because they don't get it as easily as women do. This pushes men to actively improve themselves and pursue women, both on dating apps and in real life. As a result, men develop persistence, a proactive attitude, and the drive to lead and go after what they want. These experiences help men build leadership qualities, which they then apply to various aspects of life, including work, business, and even leadership roles in countries. It's a continuous feedback l…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:13 AM
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think about it for more than 3 seconds
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:04 AM
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my points still stand
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:28 AM
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nope even primates have those things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:25 AM
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youre acting in bad faith, you dont think relationships are a microcosm of how society funcitons?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:25 AM
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men often pursue women for sex, lead relationships, are expected to pay take responsibility, and initiate and take action to create most relationships, this results in men being more likely to become leaders and run countries and companies. These behaviors transfer into other areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:24 AM
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no, you already know its true, that men are the dominate pursuers of sex you jsut don't want to accept reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:21 AM
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through affirmative action maybe, but mother nature always wins, women will always prefer to be lead, prefer men be the action takers, and prefer to focus on raising a family because owmen dont gain any value, status or better partners fomr being a business owmen
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:17 AM
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if that was the case 90% of business owners would already be businesses owners and ceos, biology is biology, mother nature always wins
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:16 AM
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i dont need proof that men have been the dominate ones pursing sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:15 AM
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yes that still proves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:13 AM
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you have to be joking, i refuse youre being serious
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:12 AM
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im not agianst it, it just wont happen, men will always be leaders becasue women prefer it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:11 AM
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women dont want to, even still and bumble backtracking is another example
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:10 AM
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yes but they didnt become leaders becasue of the degree, most epoepl have degrees and arent leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:10 AM
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use common sense please
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:09 AM
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thats part of the reason, but its also due to womens own preferences in men, women prefer leaders as partners, women prefer men to be the action takers, women prefer men pay and elad everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:08 AM
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no women are getting degrees more not becoming leaders more, no nature is nature, women will always revert back to the deafult and men will always be in charge, and the reasons is all the reasons i listed already
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:06 AM
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are you really trying to say there was aa time in history where men were the pursued and women were to pursuers? give me a break, men have always wanted and desired sex and were willing to pursue women for it this shouldn't be news to you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:02 AM
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yes, which is why women are sexual and focus on beauty, youre catching up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 01:00 AM
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youre an alein or an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:54 AM
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no i just said women dont want to be leaders or be the action takers on average, learn to read
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:54 AM
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you jsut hate and fear men, there are many reasons why mena re leaders and women aren;t. men ahve to be leaders to be valuable,. men have to be leaders to even get sex, men ahve to be leaders to be respected by other men, and men are more likly to be leader because of our physical dominance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:53 AM
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you have be a an alien i refuse to believe that you think thats not true you dont think men on average needing to dominate, puruse, initiate leads to men being more likely the leaders of society?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:51 AM
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most women prefer not to be leaders on average more than men, ebcasue they just simply dont need to to survive and be valuable and also they just enjoy receiving the fruits to mens labour rather than providing for men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:49 AM
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i never said thats the only reason, men are also stronger bigger and more violent, but also men have to build and proviide to be valuable. all of that is why men are leaders i would ask yuou to do the same Think critically & not based on the emotions of contempt you have towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:45 AM
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no, the main reasons is ebcasue women dont need to, and dont want to. sorry. and the bumble backtracking is a great example of this, women dont want the responsibility and they prefer to be the receivers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:43 AM
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i need source to prove that men are the dominate pursuers of sex since cavemen? are you an alien
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:42 AM
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its a bit of both, men are leader cause they have to, to be visible and valued by women, and because men are stronger bigger and more violent. those are all reasons why men will always be in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:35 AM
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Evolutionary Biology and Anthropological Evidence, and just day to day opersistent cultural Practices
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:34 AM
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thats the minority, the majority is still men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:32 AM
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getting a degree doesnt make you a leader, most leaders and company owners are men, becasue leaders dont need degrees, most poeple that think degrees are what makes you successful are usually not leaders, but just diligent followers
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:29 AM
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well if they were the ones owning and running most companies and countries then yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:28 AM
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Pursuing dating relationships helps men develop persistence, leadership, and drive. It puts men in an active role and women in a passive one, training men to be leaders on a small scale. Eventually, these skills get applied to bigger areas like business, companies, and even countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:27 AM
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yes, but the consequence of that is men will always be in charge. Pursuing dating relationships helps men develop persistence, leadership, and drive. It puts men in an active role and women in a passive one, training men to be leaders on a small scale. Eventually, these skills get applied to bigger areas like business, companies, and even countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:23 AM
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yes but it benefits women to not pursue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:23 AM
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yes but men are forced to, on average. therefore on average the people developing these leadership behaviors are men. women dont have to, so most likely wont, just like spoiled rich kids are the least likely to develop good money behavior, because for the most part they dont have to
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:18 AM
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no, men have most likely been doing this since we were cavemen
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:15 AM
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exactly necessity breeds success, thats why most leaders are men, men have to be
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:14 AM
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nah becasue men are soley responsible for Pursuing, iniitating and leading the dating process helps men develop persistence, leadership, and drive. It puts men in an active role and women in a passive one, training men to be leaders on a small scale. Eventually, these skills get applied to bigger areas like business, companies, and even countries. women will never be eladers ebcasue theyre not expected to do so in any area in life, men are
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:14 AM
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youre still proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:12 AM
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yes and they realised women jsut cant get away form their biology
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:12 AM
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Pursuing dating relationships helps men develop persistence, leadership, and drive. It puts men in an active role and women in a passive one, training men to be leaders on a small scale. Eventually, these skills get applied to bigger areas like business, companies, and even countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:11 AM
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forcing men to be the sole people to Pursue, initiate and lead dating relationships helps men develop persistence, leadership, and drive. It puts men in an active role and women in a passive one, training men to be leaders on a small scale. Eventually, these skills get applied to bigger areas like business, companies, and even countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:11 AM
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Pursuing dating relationships helps men develop persistence, leadership, and drive. It puts men in an active role and women in a passive one, training men to be leaders on a small scale. Eventually, these skills get applied to bigger areas like business, companies, and even countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:02 PM
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society, most businesses
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:53 PM
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yes that still proves my point why men are leaders, men need to to set themselves apart
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:30 PM
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exactly, and they were not dumb enough to pretend biological reality doesnt exist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:58 PM
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tinder is still making billions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:49 PM
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agian, youre yet to disprove it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:17 PM
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youre yet to disprove it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:45 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/kimelsesser/2024/05/03/men-can-now-initiate-conversations-on-bumble-heres-why-it-matters/?sh=5ce53bd06cad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:44 PM
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whats your point youre arguing that, women prefer to approach and lead men? casue that would be hilariously wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:40 PM
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low iq response
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:33 PM
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The Evolution of Desire: Strategies of Human Mating Summary: David M. Buss’s book discusses the evolutionary underpinnings of human mating strategies. Buss notes that women often prefer men to initiate romantic interactions due to ingrained evolutionary roles. He writes, “Women often prefer men to approach and lead as it aligns with their evolved mating strategies.” This preference is linked to ensuring mate quality and investment, as men who take the initiative are perceived as more committed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:32 PM
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Dating Gone Mobile: Demographic and Personality-based Correlates of Using Smartphone-based Dating Applications Among Emerging Adults Summary: SR Sumter and L Vandenbosch’s study investigates the use of mobile dating apps among young adults. It finds that “men are ought to take an active role in sexually approaching women,” which aligns with traditional gender roles. Women in the study expressed a preference for this dynamic, as it allowed them to avoid the discomfort of initiating contact. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:32 PM
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Online Dating in Middle and Later Life: Gendered Expectations and Experiences Summary: In this paper, S McWilliams and AE Barrett explore how older women navigate online dating. The study highlights that many women prefer men to initiate contact. “In women’s accounts, men were often led to online dating by the promise of taking an active role,” the study states. This preference stems from longstanding societal norms where men are expected to take the lead in romantic pursuits, making women more …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:32 PM
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The Dating Application Cycle: Heterosexual Emerging Adult Women's Experiences Using Dating Applications Summary: CL Litsey’s research focuses on the dating behaviors of young adult women using dating apps. The study found that “men were more likely to use dating apps and to initiate conversations.” It also observed that women preferred this dynamic, as it aligned with traditional gender roles. This preference is often due to comfort and societal norms, with women feeling more at ease when men ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:31 PM
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i dont know what world you live in but tis not reality, women by large prefer men to apporach them and prefer men to take the lead
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:28 PM
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you just dont like to face reality, delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:20 PM
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you clearly dont even know what misogynistmeans
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:20 PM
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"Dating in the Digital Age" by N. Andrejek (2020): This study explores how the rise of dating apps has impacted dating behaviors, noting that women often find it challenging to initiate conversations both in person and online. "The Dating Application Cycle: Heterosexual Emerging Adult Women's Experiences Using Dating Applications" by C.L. Litsey (2021): This research highlights gender differences in online dating, with men more likely to initiate contact, while women often prefer men to take the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:19 PM
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go outside and not be a hermit ive been dating for 6 years now, women on average struggle with approaching, initiating on dating apps and in real life and prefer it when men approach and lead
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:13 PM
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blah blah, my point still stands i dont need a study to prove that on average women find it difficult to initiate or approach and prefer not to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:08 PM
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nuh uh
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:04 PM
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are you on the spectrum? i didnt ask for porn studies i dont need a study to prove that men watch porn, or that water is wet just like i dont need a study to prove that on average women find it difficult to initiate or approach and prefer not to
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:04 PM
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are you really suprised women find it hard to approach or initiate contact? are you really that delusional it slike asking me to show proof that men watch porn
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:55 PM
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most women do still
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:51 PM
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youre just choosing to ignore inherent biological differences in mating behaviors. Evolutionarily, men have always been the pursuers. Changing this dynamic artificially doesn’t align with natural instincts,which is why requiring women to message first wasn't sustainable in the long term. Bumble’s success stories don't justify the previous model. While many couples did meet on Bumble, the app's continued usage metrics and gender engagement data likely revealed that women weren’t as engaged when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:50 PM
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low iq response
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:44 PM
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i bet you expect men to pay for drinks and dates
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:44 PM
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still proves my point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:43 PM
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women are by large passive and men are the pursuers and leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:42 PM
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again to make a point, i dont need to make every other point aswell
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:41 PM
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yet you still cant comprehend it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 11:35 AM
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yes i said its further proof, not the only proof
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:20 AM
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men were pursuing women form the beginning, men gong to the family is the societal devleoped thing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:19 AM
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now they will be since they allowed men to message first
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:18 AM
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why are you here if you cant read and understand a simple reddit post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:13 AM
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now they are making billions of dollars, nature is nature, and women dont want to be leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:12 AM
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my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:52 AM
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yet most leaders and company owners and politicians are men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:40 AM
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ypu said Most women don't have to message first, so they don't. most men have to, so most men develop how to pursue and lead, and these behaviors develop solely in men, which then leads to men applying those skills to other areas in life
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 08:23 AM
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everything you said is a feedback loop that leads to men being in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:31 AM
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no im talking about men leading athe entire dating process, men have to continuously pursue the entire way through
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:31 AM
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most leaders and business owners are men, i didnt say all men are in charge. just that society will alwyas be run by men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:30 AM
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women are the choosers, but men still own and run every company and every country
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:16 AM
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im talking about what gender has to pursue, and lead the relationships, the dating app is just one part of that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:16 AM
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that enjoyment has consequences
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:15 AM
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tinders net income 2020: Tinder's revenue was a major part of Match Group's overall net income of $746 million. 2021: Match Group reported a net income of $681 million, with Tinder being a substantial contributor. 2022: Match Group's net income was $537 million. Bumbles net income 2021: Net income of $280 million​​​ 2022: Net loss of $80 million​ 2023: Net loss of $1.9 million​ bumble experiment failed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:46 AM
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TINDER reveue 2020: $1.355 billion 2021: $1.65 billion 2022: $1.79 billion 2023: $1.91 billion BUMBLE reveue 2020: $337 million​​​ 2021: $542 million​ 2022: $694 million​ 2023: $903.5 million​ ​​​2024 (Q1): $267.78 million​ much much less,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:44 AM
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TINDER 2020: $1.355 billion 2021: $1.65 billion 2022: $1.79 billion 2023: $1.91 billion BUMBLE 2021: $217 million 2022: $260 million 2023: $396 million​ much much less,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:42 AM
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2022: Bumble experienced a net loss of $80 million. 2023: Bumble posted a smaller net loss of $1.9 million. 2024: For the first quarter of 2024, Bumble reported a net profit of $33.9 million 2020: The app generated $1.41 billion in revenue. 2021: Revenue further increased to $1.65 billion. 2022: Tinder's revenue was $1.79 billion. 2023: Tinder's revenue reached $1.91 billion 2021-2022: Hinge generated $343 million in revenue 2023: Hinge generated $396 million in revenue
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:17 AM
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no its fact, men need to earn teir value, most wopken dont find most men attractive, and becasue of that, most men have to earn value, and the best way for ugly men to do so, is own companies or run the world
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:15 AM
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can you jsut say anything other than yapping
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:13 AM
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im stating a fact not making a bad generalization
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 05:13 AM
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my points still stand
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:54 AM
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you can keep saying that forever, but atelast i compared something youre jsut yapping and saying nothing no matter what number i compare, hinge and tinder are making 100x more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:54 AM
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why are you here then you mid-wit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:47 AM
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the same dynamic happens off apps too, real life dating is the same men on average are the leaders in society and own most businesses, and this is the exact reason why
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:46 AM
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well bumble was their chance, and they failed. you can tblame men forever, if you want change, change it. most women didnt.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:41 AM
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if women are passive in relationships, that shapes how people view them, and how society functions, if men largely are the pursuers, and the leaders in relationships, that behavior most likely will translate on average to all areas in life. dating is the microcosm of society, if women are passive on the small scale, they will most likely be passive on the large scale
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:35 AM
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you suffer from yapping and not comparing anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:33 AM
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youre not comparing anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:33 AM
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low iq response
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:33 AM
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no matter what i compare tinder and hinge still made 100x more
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:29 AM
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my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:28 AM
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overall tinder made billions, bumble ist even close to that successful. it doesnt work. sorry. women dont want to lead. it failed
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:27 AM
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yes, men have to earn their value, and one way to do so is run soicety
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:25 AM
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when app has men initiate it make billions, when app let women iniitate app only make few million and eventually fail, is that simple enough for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:20 AM
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reread until you catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:19 AM
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my point is when men initiate, the app is actually successful, bumble is not even close to this succesful
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:19 AM
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my points still stand
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:18 AM
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thats all a feedbakc loop, men being horny is what leads them to pursue and act, which leads to men developing leadshi[p qualities wich leads to men running the world
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:17 AM
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im talking about bumble and dating apps
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:17 AM
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yes and women want it that way it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:16 AM
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2017: Tinder's revenue jumped to $403 million. 2018: Revenue continued to grow, reaching $805 million. 2019: Tinder's revenue was $1.15 billion. 2020: The app generated $1.41 billion in revenue. 2021: Revenue further increased to $1.65 billion. 2022: Tinder's revenue was $1.79 billion. 2023: Tinder's revenue reached $1.91 billio just face it, when men initiate, they are more succesful
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:16 AM
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2017: Tinder's revenue jumped to $403 million. 2018: Revenue continued to grow, reaching $805 million. 2019: Tinder's revenue was $1.15 billion. 2020: The app generated $1.41 billion in revenue. 2021: Revenue further increased to $1.65 billion. 2022: Tinder's revenue was $1.79 billion. 2023: Tinder's revenue reached $1.91 billion when men initiate they mnake much more moeny
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:15 AM
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2021-2023: Hinge experienced substantial revenue growth, reaching $396 million in revenue so seems twhen men lead the app makes more money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:15 AM
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2021-2023: Hinge experienced substantial revenue growth, reaching $396 million in revenue so seems twhen men lead the app makes more money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:14 AM
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2021-2023: Hinge experienced substantial revenue growth, reaching $396 million in revenue so seems twhen men lead the app makes more money
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:14 AM
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most business owners are men, so........
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:13 AM
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if womnen are passive in dating, this shapes how the world views them and how the world functions, dating is the microcosm of society, the relatiosnhip between men adn women in dating is the relationship between men and women generally
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:06 AM
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2022: Bumble experienced a net loss of $80 million. 2023: Bumble posted a smaller net loss of $1.9 million. 2024: Bumble saw a net profit of $33.9 million in the first quarter, indicating a potential return to profitability for the full year​ so after they stopped making women make the first move their profts came back up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:05 AM
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my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:05 AM
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2022: Bumble experienced a net loss of $80 million. 2023: Bumble posted a smaller net loss of $1.9 million. 2024: Bumble saw a net profit of $33.9 million in the first quarter, indicating a potential return to profitability for the full year​ so after they stopped making women make the first move their profts came back up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:04 AM
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let me know when you catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:04 AM
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2022: Bumble experienced a net loss of $80 million. 2023: Bumble posted a smaller net loss of $1.9 million. 2024: Bumble saw a net profit of $33.9 million in the first quarter, indicating a potential return to profitability for the full year​ so after they stopped making women make the first move their profts came back up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:03 AM
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men approach, pursue, and lead most relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:01 AM
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a flash in the pan, and even so, bumble sucked becasue most women never initiated
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:01 AM
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that necessity is what shapes men into leaders, my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:56 AM
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its all a feedback loop
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:56 AM
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youre still not catching up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:55 AM
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sounds like youre the one worrying about it my points still stand
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:31 AM
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i need you to reread what i actually said until you catch up
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:15 AM
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most leaders are men, doesnt mean all men are leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:13 AM
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yes thats why most men aren;t leaders, my point still stands
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:09 AM
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most leaders in business and coutnires are men, the minority of leaders are women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 03:08 AM
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well yeah but thats not really relevant to my post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:54 AM
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If women remain passive in dating, it will shape how the world views them and how society functions. Dating is a microcosm of society; if men largely have to initiate, pursue, and lead, this behavior becomes ingrained in most men and will likely influence how society functions and who holds power in all areas of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:53 AM
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exactly, lazy daters dont make for good leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:48 AM
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men lead women follow in dancing, this is the nature of women and mens relationship, and this is what shapes society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:40 AM
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men on average are less passive than women, becuase they cant afford to, men have to initiate, pursue, women dont
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:39 AM
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but its mostly men in charge
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:38 AM
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its all a feedback loop, men being hornier means they are naturally more liekly to pursue, therefore more naturally likely to become leaders due to it become a personality trait that most men develop
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:34 AM
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dating is the microcosm of society, if most women are passive in the dating world, it will continue to shape how the world views them and who is in charge on average, that being men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:28 AM
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could, but hasn't in 300,000 years and most likely wont change any time soon if womne continue to be passive in the dating world, it will continue to shape how the world sees them, and how is in charge, that being men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:26 AM
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women will always use their sexuality and women will alwyas be sexualised by men because of that if women are passive in dating it will shape how soicety views women and how society functions and who is incharge, becasue dating is the microcosm of society,
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:22 AM
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men lust after women, thats why women will always be sexualised, and why women will always use their sexuality. but becasue women are passive in dating, that shapes how the world views them and how the world functions, becasue dating is the microcosm of society
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:20 AM
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you can be passive in cooking a steak, but relatiosnhsips is the microcosm of society, the dynamics within the dating world is what shapes the world we live in, being passive in the most iportant area of life is what shapes how the world sees you and how the society around you functions
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:18 AM
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dating is the microcosm of society, the dynamics within the dating world is what shapes the world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:15 AM
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low iq response
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:15 AM
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im talking about between men and women, women are for the most part passive receivers and men are the pursuers, initiators, and leaders dating is the microcosm of society, the dynamics within the dating world is what shapes the world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:14 AM
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if women are passive in dating they will msot likely be passive in everything, dating is the microcosm of society, the dynamics within the dating world is what shapes the world we live in
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:12 AM
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men also benefit more from making moeny and running the world too if women are passive in dating, they most liekly will be passive everywhere, dating is the microcosm of society. the dynamics in dating is what shapes the world
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:06 AM
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theyw wouldn't need to do that if women were leaders and weren't passive if women are passive in dating, they will be passive in most things, including running the world
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:05 AM
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that was their goal, a feminist focused dating app where women can be the leader of the dating dynamic, it failed becasue women arent leaders
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:04 AM
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every thing is linked, if women cant lead in dating, they most likely wont lead in anything
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:03 AM
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men are more likely to be realsitic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 04:36 AM
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thats why it should be mandatory so that it avoids this negative association
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:14 PM
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thats almost impossible, too many categories not feasible in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:12 PM
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but they don just choose based on love, they choose based on height, wealth status, and love
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:10 PM
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so hot youthful women usually marry men that make the same amount as them, same height, and same age with the same status as them? those owmen have better options, why would they not go for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:25 AM
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who was talking about minors at all? point to where anyone even talked about underaged people
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:44 AM
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do you ahve stats on hot young women and who they usually date?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:05 AM
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but agian, most women would still date a rich man though and not demonize it to the same extent as age gap
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:04 AM
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huh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 02:00 PM
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most average people date within their bracket yes, not attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:52 AM
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most women would still date a rich man though and not demonize it to the same extent as age gap
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 11:52 AM
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RP men dont want to get married, especially to the ugly fat entitled women of the west, its about getting laid, and doing whats best for you while focusing on your health, wealth and growth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:58 AM
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that still doesn't stop the fact that you are completely dominated by his extreme gap in wealth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 03:53 AM
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