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I agree, I think it's a very interesting psychological phenomenon, but I wouldn't rely on the writers of the aforementioned research to explore that in any depth...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/25 08:45 PM
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I bet slave owners felt warmly about their favourite slaves, but it doesn't mean they were sympathetic to "the slave condition" and its many flaws or the immoral decisions keeping it entrenched. I could imagine they might've wanted to better slaves' conditions the more warmly they felt for them, but eliminating slavery was likely unthinkable for the majority. Maybe an exaggerated analogy but the principle sticks. A true understanding that men have it unfair from a male perspective is unthinkable…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/25 06:10 AM
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Women of the sort to identify strongly with the feminist label, usually enjoy the fruits of benevolent sexism, wanting to maintain those, while associating all men with hostile sexism (the men who hit on them on the streets or promised them a relationship while using them for sex) or the downsides of benevolent sexism (the nice guy syndrom). This is what leads to thinking they can tell men how they must behave or what women should be able to demand out of men (Thus commanding other women to shar…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/25 08:32 AM
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I remember reading an Orwell book from 1936 where the dynamics between the genders didn't feel too different from today. To some extent the fighting ought to be there, so long as the experiences men and women have of the world are different- there will be disagreements and tensions, and those are healthy. I think what increased is primarily loneliness and disconnection via internet usage, thus extreme ideas about the other gender (and in general) are allowed to proliferate so long as the people …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 10:13 PM
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This one is less "institutional" but very widespread- the assumption that women are not causing their own problems, only men are causing problems for both themselves and women alike, is not only very popular in feminist spaces, it is practically dogma. If some women are indeed causing their own problems or have "problematic beliefs" (those that don't agree with the orthodoxy, like say, wanting to be a tradwife), even that is usually explained away by internalized misogyny caused by patriarchy. S…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/24 07:33 AM
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It's internalized benevolent sexism. They want to have all the freedom they imagine men have -often entirely exaggerated, because firstly, society isn't nearly as approving of men as it seems, it's just that men more often do things regardless of the disapproval, sometimes simply overlooking the disapproval. And secondly as the ability to be someone important isn't necessarily more freeing- but rather comes with much responsibility, burdens and additional stress. Yet when it comes to how they're…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 10:52 PM
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I remember always finding it shocking how many "progressives" supposedly so very keen to question the merit of even having gender roles in the first place, then using Jordan Peterson's crying or open vulnerability about his psychological troubles and benzo use as a weapon against him. The hypocrisy was stunning. That's when I really started questioning if progressives are really progressing anywhere. It wasn't due to anything Peterson said about them, tho he sure chastizes them a lot- but seeing…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/24 10:33 PM
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In my opinion just because Reddit and mainstream feminism in general is prejudiced against men, doesn't mean we shouldn't have sympathy for women who go through terrible things (be it by male or female abusers). The lack of resources for men shouldn't be seen as if taken by feminists to provide for women at men's expense. This zero sum mentality helps no one.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/02/24 07:01 AM
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This phenomenon actually has a name: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Tocqueville\_effect
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/24 07:58 PM
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Right. That's the issue. The reason the "Manosphere" is crowded with conservatives and redpillers is because the people who have reasonable nuanced takes don't actually speak up, and I think it's because liberals kowtow to the progressives because they don't wanna be lumped with the aforementioned conservatives and face backlash from those who are supposedly on their side. I think liberals need to realize progressives aren't on their side, they're delusional and unreasonable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/01/24 07:56 PM
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If you can't distinguish between subgroups in your sample it makes for shallow analysis. Imagine treating all business owners the same, be it a family owned bakery or the CEO of a massive multinational corporation, and deciding they share all their relevant traits in common.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 12:21 AM
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I've listened to multiple Vids of him describing the problems in their relationship together with my gf, she's a therapist in training and I'm also on the way there (currently in masters). As far as I can tell their relationship was heading downhill because of his blindness to her emotional needs and her inability to argue for them. On his part because of clearly a very "masculine" mind- if one says something then its clearly the case and there's no need to look underneath it. So when she told h…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:54 AM
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I totally understand where you're coming from. You just want to be consistent in your thoughts and actions, and so if you know something you desire is defined as harmful, and the last thing you want to be is harmful, then it essentially means your sexual desire shouldn't even exist, but that's basically like saying you, or more like- desire itself, the id (In freudian terms) shouldn't exist cuz it is harmful in its very essence. I felt this way for a long time. But I ended up managing to date re…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/01/24 12:16 AM
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Sure but these differences in personality play out also in the male world, just as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 08:50 AM
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This was a good read. But Johnny there is already receiving too much attention for it to be accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:30 AM
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Idk why you think it's only about women. Men haven't been socialized specifically to dominate women. They've been socialized to assert themselves, which can end up with dominating others in general. That's where the whole alpha beta distinction comes from, it's two different types of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 01:21 AM
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I sure don't see a lot of that online, miss.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:20 PM
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I don't think that feminists or anyone who subscribes to a particular ideology is ever going to be reasonable or charitable frankly. At least not if it plays a big part in their identity. Many women might say they're feminists and don't mean by it the same things as women identifying as such on Reddit subs like witches against patriarchy. I think the point about Peterson is very much correct and people who attack him for displaying weakness or caring about men are themselves much less empathetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 10:05 PM
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Isn't it the grandiose Narcissism that's attractive tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:51 AM
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You'd have to actually produce a good reason for why they'd be lying tho
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:53 AM
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I wonder how much of the attraction to Narcissism holds if you control for extroversion (which is correlated). I think extroversion is doing the heavy lifting here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 12:51 AM
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The fuck. Reverse the genders and we'd be calling it a witch hunt. That's pretty damaging.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:34 AM
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Suggesting someone needs therapy cuz they have a different idea of what is normal than you is a big cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:32 AM
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That's kinda sad. I wouldn't want sex that comes as a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 10:19 AM
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We're constantly told women can be just as sexual as men. So we accept that as a truth and then complain when it isn't true. Maybe we should have a discussion about the reality of this assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:38 AM
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Preach brother
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 05:02 AM
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A big part of the problem is that when men are told constantly how approaching hurts women, the men who are considerate are gonna stop approaching, despite being the men most likely to actually be relationship material. It's the men who don't give a fuck about women's discomfort, don't think in advance about "what even are my chances here" since they're just gonna "shoot their shot" in their attempts to get laid that are left being the "serial approachers" most women end up experiencing, and giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:59 AM
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As other men have already said here, what men want is to be desired. Why are men so willing to spend their money on status symbols? Because in doing so they're investing in a higher likelyhood of attracting women. It's also why men were always willing to bear the brunt of women's spending habits. Men exchange money for desirability to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 04:38 AM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:44 PM
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I think people nowdays think they have to work on themselves a lot to be worthy of the right partner, the more they sacrifice the more they think they deserve. This mentality breeds both a sort of premature certainty (thinking you know what a good partner for you must be like) as well as entitlement- I worked on myself a lot where's my dream partner? I don't think it's a woman only problem but I do see more women who are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 07:46 AM
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You're failing to address how experience can often teach people the wrong things. And re-learning is an effortful task. Maybe the technique he learned with one girl is entirely wrong with another. Maybe the behaviors she liked in him and encouraged wasn't at all what you'd like to encourage. A partner is never a finished product, it's a living breathing thing that tries to teach you while you teach it. With a partner who's inexperienced you get to teach the stuff you think is good on what's clos…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:44 AM
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Is having a lot of partners truly a marker of success? Is attracting many actually more worthwhile than attracting that special one? It's worth asking imo if the opinion of this woman is something one should actually account for in one's outlook on life, dating, etc, even if it is shared by many other women!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 06:39 AM
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If the only reason a person would be decent is cuz of backlash from relatives, then they're an awful person. Which means dating such a person would be plenty bad even if they're part of your social circle. You just made a case for why people should seek to date outside their existing social circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:56 AM
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No, none of what you described is "fair game". It's people being assholes. You think a man would choose better for his daughter than she can? Would you let your own father choose a match for life for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:52 AM
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You're an idiot. The trauma thing is literally what made her feel this is "for real" cuz "he wouldn't tell this to just any woman". You think it's all about his looks when what was attractive to her was actually his behaviour- he made her think she's special and that he was spectacularly into her, and she was naive enough to fall for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 04:49 AM
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Yeah absolutely I feel this way. And discussions with such feminists I've had rarely lead to anything good or to more understanding. The insistence that women need to be secured from men's desire totally seems to me like a sort of internalised benevolent sexism. Like women are supposed to be extra protected, their wishes must direct society- any resistance to this makes you a bad man, and every inequality currently in existence must be coming from intentional sabotage by men and it's up to them …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/23 10:44 PM
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This feels like it misses the point and this is a problem with the online discussion on this. I just can't see how violence against women is entirely linked to having hateful stances towards women as a whole in the first place. You can think women are great and yet think their place is in the kitchen. You can think men are great and think they should provide or die for you. You can be a sworn male feminist ally and be an abusive asshole to every gf you ever had. I think this whole discussion dow…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/23 08:28 AM
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Speak for yourself. I'm awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 03:39 PM
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It's just identity politics. Sadly it is capturing a lot of people nowdays which is really strange to me. I was brought up on the idea that we're all individuals and therefore generalisations contain more falsity than truth. If you wanted to know the truth about people you had to actually talk to them or hear them speak/express their opinions. Therefore generalisations are mostly to be resisted or rejected. Somehow nowdays generalisations about women or minorities are now said to be prejudicial,…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/07/23 11:05 AM
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Thats just sucky. Have you tried doing something about it
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:58 AM
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Could be. I don't think it accounts for all of it tho, since at least with my own sexual partners it wasn't the lack of orgasms that was the issue (maybe TMI but I'm fairly eager to please) and yet my sex drive was still higher. I definitely got a lot more "not now" in my life than I have ever given it. The ratio is probably 1 to 100, haha. Not to mention that women that I've talked to about this claim that they can indeed enjoy sex even without the orgasm, so that's partly why I feel some of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:01 PM
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Yeah this is just false. The literature shows that men desire sex more, have more frequent sexual thoughts, and masturbate more often. This is even when in a relationship. Of course this is statistics and doesn't apply to every individual male Vs female. But it's not clear that testosterone is the reason unlike most commenters think. In my personal experience my gf is a lot more likely to have her sexual drive affected by mood swings, overall happiness, and stress/worry. But to me this is exactl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:47 PM
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But that is exactly the result of online women saying these things to online men. The key point here is: offline, things are entirely different. There's nothing incoherent about it. You get a skewed picture of reality from women who are there to complain to other women, and you stick to it exactly so as to avoid the possibility of it shattering upon contact with reality. And it's all really just fuelled by your own fear of rejection. "Chad" isn't the handsome man nobody says no to, "Chad" is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 08:01 AM
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Very true. Wish women on here would be more understanding rather than imagining every man out there to be the creep they rant about to their friends. The overall effect of constantly painting men approaching them as committing the most heinous of crimes is that they're hurting their own chances of being approached by an actually decent guy, since those are more likely to listen to what women want, and oblige. But I think it's important to be that actually decent guy and still approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:39 AM
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Man you guys are such losers of tremendous proportions. Talk to a woman once in a while instead of writing about it on the internet. Women, just like most people, enjoy conversations with other people, even if you're not the most handsomest guy on the planet. No, it doesn't mean you'll get laid, but you will definitely get a conversation out of it. If she likes you for more than that depends on much more than you being "Chad" but don't let me unnecessarily complexify your worldview. God forbid w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:31 AM
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To feel worthy of female attention and possibly, desire. That's one of the most priceless of prizes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:44 AM
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To stand out from the rest of men and get her attention. Probably women who are attractive but not so attractive to be intimidating.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:43 AM
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It's a defensive posture, honestly. Something I learned the hard way was that the longer you go without something the more you idealise it, raising the bar rather than making it lower and achievable. I can only really describe it in a parable so bear with me. A person is lost in the desert looking for water. The longer they're lost and the thirstier they are, the more they fantasize about the water being pure, refreshing, revitalising. The person ends up finally running into a small dirty stream…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:37 AM
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What people say they want and what they end up accepting are two different things- one is imaginary, the other real. Of course the imaginary is gonna seem too dreamy, but that doesn't mean the woman wouldn't accept any person who's actually "good enough" and is into them. The problem I mostly hear from femcels is that the guys who are willing to date them would make terrible partners or don't even wanna partner up, just wanna fuck and dump. Being a man and having known enough men, I know that in…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 09:09 AM
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Do women on the FDS sub see men as humans? Would also say not really. I think it's the nature of people who are of insecure attachment, flocking to spaces in which they'd be able to talk about how to get what they want from the other gender exactly cuz the other gender is so untrustworthy that it needs to be forced or manipulated into giving it. The idea of giving back or of the relationship being about more than just give and take would require the person to have an actual human to do this with…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 09:40 AM
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Didn't feel like taking the trouble to collect stupid comments for you, those are numerous. Here's instead actual articles from media sites that hate on men: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-cant-we-hate-men/2018/06/08/f1a3a8e0-6451-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7\_story.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/10/books/pauline-harmange-i-hate-men.html https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2006/nov/02/whyihatemen https://mg.co.za/article/2017-05-19-00-not-all-men-misses-the-point/ Do you think…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:15 PM
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Ok it's not for "men" in general, but it is for the attractive men you'd want to attract. You then judge yourself by how attractive you think you'd seem to the sort of man (assuming hetero) you'd like to attract, as well as guided by the impressions other women have of your attractiveness, from which you can estimate if you will infact be attractive to the sort of men you'd like to attract. From that you can assume your own attractiveness as if standalone, but there is no such thing as standalon…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/23 08:54 PM
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Why is a girl's past of importance to you? I understand it in the sense that maybe her past can be used to predict your future with her, but I think it's important to notice how correct these conclusions are, and not assume too much
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 09:19 PM
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Really weird interpertation here, my friend. I have had 2 girls who's cherry I popped, and other than place a good amount of responsibility on me in making their first time good, it did nothing for me. It was not at all something I missed when I dated non-virgins. Being the first doesn't mean being the best or the only one she'd want to fuck, which are two far more important things.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 08:12 PM
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well that's interesting, given that for me it is actually fairly relevant to how attractive a woman is to me. not sure this points out a difference between men and women tho, or just between you and me.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 07:16 PM
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Can they do the same? The experience of men on dating apps is akin to a barren wasteland where you're offered the odd cactus every now and then if you're desperate enough for a drink. In that state you cannot afford to choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:51 PM
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Is it really not attractive for a dude to be considerate? I find agreeableness in women to be an attractive trait
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/22 04:48 PM
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Maybe you should base your confidence on something. It can be good looks, but it can also be your ability to talk and get involved with people, ability to do things you and others find important. I find, and I think most people do as well, these abilities I mention to be a far more worthy reason for confidence than looks alone. It is only unearned confidence that is taken to be arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/22 06:42 AM
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I like to do things with people but what those things usually have in common are- interesting talks. I think those can come about from people who spend their time reading 10 hours a day or from people who are all the time out and about adventuring and seeing the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/22 02:11 PM
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I have a feeling there's an abundance of fucked up women on online dating, creating the impression that most women are like this. Also as observed once in that show I hate, "how I met your mother" there seems to be a correlation between being very attractive and crazy; maybe its the excessive attention from men, higher expectations from you coming from both genders when you're very pretty, as people expect you to fulfill their "halo effect" impressions of you, or higher likelyhood to be maltreat…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/22 06:48 AM
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Granted, my interactions with plenty men haven't been that great either. But plenty other men who were decent in my mind don't even enter the same category of men. That's why I really don't like the way these ideas are framed, you can't pretend 50% of mankind are the same sort of human, even bullshit personality tests and zodiac signs divide humanity into more parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/22 11:27 AM
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Oh certainly, people here and redpill but also on female oriented subs like FDS or feminism all have these narratives they create about the world because of a lack of actual engagement with said world and the actual people they make sweeping generalizations about. If you want to figure the world out, go experience it, cuz these armchair theorists will only keep feeding you fantasy stories they invented out of their own limited bitter experiences. It's not that much different from listening to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/22 09:49 AM
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I don't feel at all like a woman sacrificed something when she fucks me, if anything I want to feel like she's gaining something, feels attractive and validated through it, since I'm that great and she should consider herself lucky to have been picked by me (I don't consider myself that great, but I'd like her to)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/22 06:21 AM
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Unlike most people here going for the biological explanation I'd go for a psychological one. Both men and women have a desire to be desired. Getting sex for men often feels like it represents your overall desirability, because of how relatively difficult it is to get a woman to want you enough to do it, tho I would argue there's different levels of sex- one's where the people just use each other to get off like they're sex toys to each other, and one's where people are so craving each other it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/22 06:44 AM
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No one's forcing anybody. It's a discussion about what actually happens. Idk why women on this sub always seem to feel forced to conform to the narrative that's being spun.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:17 AM
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Idk, I know plenty women with daddy issues who wouldn't have trouble dating a guy twice their age. Maybe the majority won't, but there's a good amount of exceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:15 AM
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Well, it's more about the theory they have of how women work rather than how'd they'd like it to work. If they find an anecdote that goes along with the narrative, it then confirms it, but if there's anecdotes against, then they're rejected for not being representative of how it "really is".
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 11:14 AM
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All this will achieve is filter out most girls except drunk/extroverted ones who feel comfortable enough to do the approaching themselves. It will have very little to do with how much they like you as girls often don't approach even if they like your looks, and certainly nothing to do with compatibility. Accept your gender role as the one doing the approaching, and never press for sex. A girl who likes you and feels comfortable with you after spending time with you will certainly show you clear …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/22 07:43 AM
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You do realize some men don't take no for an answer, or seem to not understand cues that the other person thinks are obvious. It's not about entitlement. You can and should respectfully hit on women. Just read the vibes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 08:09 PM
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Im not woke nor homophobic mate, don't know what you're seeing there. You'd have a lot of sexual attention on you if you went into such a club wearing such clothes. The point being you don't get sexual attention only from those you are attracted to, and therefore sexual attention can be very unpleasant to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/22 06:13 PM
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Go to a gay bar with assless chaps and tell me you have it good mate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 11:57 PM
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I think men can protect themselves better. But sure, I'm not claiming there's no male victims of female thirst either.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:17 PM
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Idk, as a guy who spent the majority of last night watching the backs of two female friends at a party from two guys who couldn't take no for an answer, there's certainly victims of male thirst. The fact that there's also beneficiaries of male thirst doesn't mean there's no victims of it. I also think female sexuality is in general different from men's and that makes them more picky, some of them think male sexuality should work the same, maybe it's simply cuz when a man is more picky there'd be…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 01:08 PM
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Because when one generalizes like that, they say it with the hope there are exceptions to the rule, one likely wishes for those exceptions to be the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 04:17 PM
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Difference being that if you do, people call you misogynistic (and I wouldn't argue you aren't), whereas blaming men seems to be perfectly acceptable in today's society.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 05:58 PM
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I think there's also confusion here about what women do on tinder. Sure they give more attention to the hotter fellas, but are those who they end up with?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 09:23 AM
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It's still an unpleasant and lonely place to be at. I personally am doing my best getting to stay in another country I feel more sympathetic to, and studying its language.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:38 AM
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but breaking away from culture while being surrounded by culture means in practice to isolate oneself from the people around oneself, which often doesn't help with the loneliness part (I know that from years of experience)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:15 AM
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This is the stupidest response I've seen yet, congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:19 AM
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Incorrect. A study released last year: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886920302555 The conclusion: "That is, young men living in individualistic cultures were more vulnerable not only to frequent loneliness, but also to loneliness that was more intense and longer lasting."
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 08:17 AM
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Being condemned to a life of loneliness and a lack of any attraction from those one is attracted to is pretty brutal to live through. This isn't quite the experience of most men however, no matter how much this sub likes to generalise and catastrophize their experiences with it. Yes, few men fuck like Chad, but few are incels too (luckily).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 07:52 AM
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Difference is, I don't want a submissive person, nor necessarily one with opinions of the exact same sort as me. I'm just gonna prioritize agreeableness over disagreeableness. I most definitely like people with well thought out opinions who can discuss them rationally, and a good debate over differences in opinions can be bonding with the right person.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/22 12:41 AM
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A lot of so called intelligent women often have opinions and beliefs that I do not care for, and voice them very loudly. I'm not conservative myself at all, but I do not go out of my way to preach to others about social justice things. I try to get along with others because that's more important to me than most political opinions. If I have wishes of my own, opinions of my own, I often don't try to make them seem "objectively true" as many women like this do- for instance, if I was vegan, I woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/22 11:21 PM
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Men are bitter not because of the "grand scheme of things". Not to mention you're deliberately waving away everything that makes humans humans when you reduce their complexity to "survive and reproduce". If you were to suggest the reason I appreciated a person making a meal for me or enjoyed the music I listened to today was just cuz of "survival and reproduction" I'd find you a fool.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:38 AM
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Big difference between being desired for who you are and getting sex as consequence, and hiring someone to sex you, in terms of the validation it gives a person.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 04:34 AM
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Everyone wants to feel desirable. You seem to have no grasp of what it's like to feel like no one in the world that you desire, would ever desire you back. For many men this is the reality, and they work super hard to be more desirable to women because it's that fucking important for them to feel desired. It ain't about the act of sex itself. It's about how being desirable affirms one's existence. It's a downright need, and if it wasn't, people wouldn't be this bitter in the first place! It's on…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 09:18 AM
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Yeah the pandemic sure made things a lot more complicated, but ppl are also lonelier, no wonder there'd be an influx of PMs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 08:23 AM
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Being caring, interesting and a good listener and conversationalist- where conversations are more like a passionate exchange rather than a monologue. That shit's better than sex. Sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:39 PM
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How's it different from them approaching you in a club?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:34 PM
1

I for one think that online things have a better potential to work out, because more options (being not limited by geography) means being more likely to find someone compatible, who cares for what you have to offer and wants the same things as you. If you can schedule meeting each other often enough and have a plan to move in together eventually, it has great potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:34 PM
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Except it actually is their fault as well? I hate the whole victim/abuser idea. I think these things for the most part are more complicated, where the victim possibly done wrong things too, and the abuser possibly had some very redeeming attributes. I personally wouldn't marry a person I see as likely of "divorce raping" me, and I would do my best to notice the signs. People do need to notice in advance the capacity of their partners to be terrible to them. I personally look at a person's overal…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 07:03 PM
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I really hate this advice, because trying to be happy while single made me single and unhappy for years. People do crave and need the feeling of being desirable as well as intimate connections with others. Pretending that isn't needed and finding other things to replace it doesn't make one happy. The reality is- if you don't try, you don't succeed, and trying- despite how terribly unpleasant dating is- because of all the possible rejections, comes from really really wanting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:28 AM
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I believe it isn't that cold approaching is shallow and objectifying, as much as it's the people who often do it, who are shallow and objectifying, giving the whole thing a bad rap. You can approach a girl out of the blue and have a decent conversation which shows interest in who she is as a person, despite the fact your motivation for doing so was that she was simply pretty and seemed available for a convo.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/21 10:50 AM
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You can, the fact some people will doubt what you tell them doesn't mean you can't answer
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:46 PM
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I'm thinking that if all women did that we'd still live in a world where the best looking ones get the attention of most men, it's just that the "best looking" will now be weighed via the new fashion sense. And you'd still get men eager to fuck as much as possible, which will change nothing in terms of the dating market. It's the drive together with how society allows it to manifest which makes these behaviours, not some objective measure of good looks. If you had nothing but potatoes to eat all…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:34 PM
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Im thinking the separation between assertiveness and aggressiveness is not nearly as clearly cut as self help books will tell you. To get what you want often does involve to go against what others want- or not notice/consider it in the first place. I also think for a lot of men, particularly when young, appearing confident so as to score points with the ladies is more important than cultivating actual security in one's character
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 05:24 PM
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Ok but a t shirt and sweatpants would still not make an attractive woman less attractive. Idk how it works for you, but if I see a cute girl (and I swear that's easily like 50% of girls in their 20s) out with her dog in the morning, what she's wearing (unless it's downright deliberately strange) ain't gonna change a single thing about how attractive she is. I also don't really get the need to "highlight a figure" when it comes to men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 01:20 PM
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I seriously dislike that line of reasoning because it gets men to act aggressive to appear confident. It makes them fight for dominance since they associate that with being attractive. We should encourage a world in which men are friendly to men and women alike, even when they don't want to get something from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:55 AM
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Your comment strikes me as ignorant. "Men have it much easier than women to get accepted into university, so? What do you wanna do about it, women usually just aren't as smart as men. Why get so mad about something that has no solution?" This is something that was probably a popular opinion 100 years ago. Surely if something bothers enough people it can infact produce some change that will remedy the problem. Doesn't have to come only from women, but perhaps in how dating works in general, or pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:52 AM
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Well what grinds my gears is the fact I've been sexless for 2 years despite going on dating apps for at least a year. I'm not ugly or particularly unpleasant or ungroomed. In a single day a female friend I know downloaded tinder and got the same amount of likes I got in a year. If she wanted to, she could have that James Deen life. I could not. And yet no one seems to acknowledge this disparity, and suggesting that maybe something should be done about it earns me the response "you think you're e…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:43 AM
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Idk where you live but most "average" women are not overweight, the average girl on the streets here in Germany isn't necessarily acrobatic but will have a reasonable BMI and pleasant to look at face. Life is tough for overweight girls tho, I admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:34 AM
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This already shows how much more picky women are when it comes to what they are attracted to. An average+ girl will look attractive to me in the simplest of crop tops+leggings, infact what she wears hardly factors into it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/21 10:28 AM
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woah woah, I get your points, I think you make a strong case against this "allow me to protect you" instinct in men, that might not be received well on the other side as it comes with all kinds of hidden demands in return. But the points you listed in what women are responsible for kinda makes it sound like her options are to either hit the jackpot or to be in fight or flight mode- that doesn't sound like a healthy way to pursue relationships at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:00 AM
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Yup, once I've understood this I realized there's no point in engaging in purple pill debates. No matter what generalizations there are about women, or even how incredibly accurate they might be- they mean little to me, why? because I am not interested in "women", I'm interested in A woman. Specifically- My kind of woman. That's a very small and niche group. And likely there's not a lot of researches or statistics about that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/21 01:34 PM
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Whats wrong with recognizing that you're adored by many? you may think its the wrong kind of "adoration" but naturally the girls who open an onlyfans are there for this sort of treatment from men, or they wouldn't be doing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/21 11:28 AM
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I wonder if such assholes ever realize and stop to think about how their behavior is actively harming others. On their end they can say "well, it works!" but to what end? Where's the satisfaction of treating a person you're supposed to, hopefully, fall in love with, as if they're an enemy who's walls must be destroyed, and their castle must be conquered, using the right tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/21 12:23 AM
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Perhaps they'd fuck a becky, but not necessarily want her for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 08:04 PM
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Yeah it'd make much more sense to say- Men who have a lot of options cheat at a much higher rate than men with few options. But by definition the latter group have way less women interested in them, hence there's way less women who would attest that men don't cheat! Although to give a counter-point, men seem to whine about "Stacy" cheating on them too, and often do generalize it to women as a whole (Women are not loyal, hypergamy makes them do that, etc etc) and they still wouldn't date a "Becky…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:40 PM
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Imma respond more to the original thread than to this one with all honesty- I find men in general more interesting than women, despite being a straight dude- I just have more in common with men, and have more invigorating talks with them, we "get" each other more, and there's less reservations about offending each other, with the assumption we'll just duke it out if need be and settle it. With women any offense could very well mean it's the last time I talk to her. This makes honest communicatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:17 PM
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I think women look at the attractive men - the men they'd like as bfs, as representatives of all men- and then get bummed out when they end up as just another pump and dump for such men, and the amount of feeling bummed out about it is what determines their estimate of casual sex among men. In social science terms you could describe it as a sampling error (thinking the sample of attractive men represents all men), and the representativeness heuristic (using the emotional information- being bumme…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 07:02 PM
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I think both sides of this thing give way too much credit to how the other side is doing things purposely, as if they know what they want from the get go, and necessarily manipulate the other side to get what they want. I think men often only want sex and then they find that the person is good for more than that. And sometimes they might be in the market for more but end up deciding that the person really ain't that great after a few weeks with them and just keep them for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/21 06:53 PM
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I'm in absolute disagreement, the hormones released during sex and the ones during masturbation are quite different, and frankly any person who had good sex knows just how better it is than masturbation. Sex is much more about human connection (seeing that what you want to do to your partner is what they crave more of too! that's teamwork in which both go for what they want) and self validation (the person you value craves what you want to offer and values you for it), than it is about pure phys…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 03:09 PM
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It's far more than just an instrument of pleasure, it's a valuable part of being able to perform as a man, part of what one lives for. A lot of ego rests on that one body part.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 02:58 PM
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I would say STEM in general doesn't require nearly as much critical thinking as a humanities degree. STEM requires thinking in the language they teach you, which requires a lot of practicing these skills, which are quite different from the skills of critiquing, debating (with others or with oneself), and entertaining a large array of possibly contradicting opinions and information. Speaking as someone who quit engineering and comp sci to go into psychology with a lot of interest in philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/21 07:34 PM
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Lonely until you get a relationship like that. and then hopefully that'd be the only one you'll ever need.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:34 PM
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A matter of supply and demand. These online apps have many more men than women and men send a message to nearly every good enough looking woman they can find. As a dude, I still wouldn't date a girl with a 90+ match percentage on OKC if she isn't at least a 6/10 looks wise to me. Now imagine being bombarded by messages as a 6/10 woman, from men all the way up to 9/10, why wouldn't you go for looks, if from those 9/10 men you can still weed out enough of them based on low match percentage or lous…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:32 PM
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This is the truth right there.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 03:22 PM
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None of the women I dated when I was still a virgin ever really took an issue with it, tho they were curious to hear why it is the case, so I suppose it can be a sort of yellow flag- it signifies a possible, potential problem (why's the person still a virgin at an older age when most men aren't?) but not a problem in itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:25 AM
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Likely because they've been shamed for being virgins until they weren't anymore, and now can shame others. It often works that way in general with anything society holds as important. I don't think it is out of cruelty, maybe the peer pressure is there to convince you to make moves on a girl, a difficult task as an insecure teenager. More objectively however, there's nothing glorious about losing your virginity out of peer pressure, no more than smoking a cigarette is worth anything outside of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/21 09:20 AM
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Grandpa gets it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:06 PM
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Height doesn't play a major factor for me, but it is a factor, ideally i'd want someone about 5 inches shorter than me. But there's just so many other things that matter way more that it'd be very unlikely for me to use height as the measure to date a girl or not. Weight for instance would play a larger factor, her face, her body being at least cared for, but more important factors would be if I enjoy my time with her, if I can open up to her, if there's things we both wanna do specifically toge…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/21 06:04 PM
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She wasn't your woman before she became yours tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/21 04:39 PM
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did not appreciate the long empty sequences and the music clips
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:53 PM
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I think men often do love women in a similar way they'd love a child, they wish to protect them, and satisfy their needs, but do not respect the child in terms of trust in their abilities or their competence to do things by themselves, nor do they see it as equal. I think a woman who wants to be respected needs to inspire confidence in others, get them to trust in her abilities, just like any man would- I don't deny it might very well be harder for women to do so tho, since they have to deal wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 02:07 PM
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Is it just me or is this whole debate about N count just some way to be more "scientific" in gauging if a partner is going to be a stable long term partner or not? So the idea is that with quantity of partners we could correlate relationship satisfaction and longevity... But in actuality I see so many factors that are much more important than N-count, that'd correlate with those two. What determines satisfaction and longevity IMO would be the mentality of both partners (long term oriented or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/21 09:14 AM
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I didn't even understand what their ages were, was that written anywhere on that page or in the sources? I kept trying to find it, to no avail. Won't there be huge gaps in the perception of N-counts between people who are 18 and people who are 35?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/21 10:15 AM
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There's a difference between thinking about a cheeseburger often and having it often. If you used to eat one daily and now you decided to quit, you'd likely have a lot of thoughts about cheeseburgers popping up out of nowhere. Likewise if you haven't had sex for a while you'll likely think about it a lot more than if you were satisfied. I think rather than "stop doing it", a better advice would be- find something better to do, hopefully something engaging, something that will require focus, so t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/21 06:29 PM
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speak for yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/20 02:07 PM
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I don't think you frequent the same grocery stores I do either...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 07:57 PM
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Your reply was most amusing and I thoroughly appreciated that. But I do beg to differ, while I don't think "the average girl" is quite the caricature you've described, she likely has some elements of that, and I do believe that you, as someone who likely does not belong in that "average girl" category, also has a social circle that also has less of those elements- and so your observations don't match the common type of girl that guys have to deal with on online dating apps, who often do seem to …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 10:22 AM
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I guess the issue I see here is this- I go and give a presentation in class to a lot of people. I'm nervous as fuck, but I put on a brave face and try to do my best, this helps me perform in the presentation better than if I blatantly showed that I'm an anxious mess and fell apart. Are women on a first date judging how much you care about them? or are they judging how much they even like you? I'd say the second. If you being entertaining rather than uncomfortable and awkward makes for a much mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:40 AM
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You're not fit for online discussions, literally any generalization or idea people give you just allows you to label the replier somehow to "prove them wrong" without actually proving them wrong. This is intellectually lazy af. Anyway, any time you want a certain result to happen and feel like it could go wrong, and it's up to you to make sure it doesn't, you will feel anxious. This could happen whether you see the person as completely human or not or about non-human things too. Also your own ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:31 AM
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But it seems to me that this sort of attitude you have is exactly what women in general do not, and therefore easily fall for those PUA tactics, or chad's uncaring attitude. Congratz on being more observant than most girls, but I see your reply as more of an agreement with OP than not.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/20 06:24 AM
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You say all of that and yet, do you think any men would actually jump at the proposal to stop being useful? you think deconditioning ourselves would help us in any way? what would we do then? I'm claiming that we'll forever seek to be useful, and young men who can't find their own place to be useful very much crave to have such a place. Also, in relation to the household chores, women still do more of that than men do from the statistics I've seen. Do men still work more and are expected to prov…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:29 PM
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I agree, except I don't think there's really a double-standard, that would assume there's some entity setting the standard, I don't see society as something that has a "will", but more like a historical process. As far as I can tell men did it to themselves, Or more like- women did it for themselves- they always relied on other women to get through things, there's a lot of attention to developing supportive friendships in the female world, while men seem to rely less and less on bonding with oth…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 07:12 AM
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The large amount of responses that fail to see your point makes me think you really struck a chord with some men about their lack of tight knit social networks... I know that for sure this is the case for me and I do believe there's plenty of men out there who are isolated, and seek solace in relationships while giving little heed to the possibility of establishing close relationships with men (which in my experience are actually way easier to create!)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/20 06:45 AM
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Something people should take from this is that it's not a person's looks that makes them popular or succesful to the extent we think- she's good looking but not a 10/10 model, and you'd get a lot of much prettier ladies not getting the same amount of success. Her success seems due to her ability to manipulate men to think she's giving them a personal/unique sort of service, as you'll see her detailing in her onlyfans page that it is infact her life that she's sharing with them. Her content also …
/r/TheRedPill20/12/20 12:43 PM
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A guy who would like to ask you out is ruling what uncontested exactly? his empty inbox? defining individuals by their group and discriminating against them is sexism, plain and simple. This isn't about equality, it's about control. And it was fairly obvious from any feminist that I tried to date- any move I tried to make that was assertive was denied, any opinion stated that did not fit their ideology basically ruined the relationship. This does not happen to me with people who aren't completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/20 09:23 PM
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Thats a fair point. But I think it's also the matter of... not only does it consume the time you have to spend with your SO, it also consumes the time you have to spend on anything else- namely, things you can later talk about with your SO. And maybe this is where OP comes in with his complaints. Merry cake day!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 03:29 PM
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You can be in the friendzone as a woman by a guy you want to fuck, and still friendzone other guys you don't want to fuck. A dude can also be already taken.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 03:21 PM
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I mean, in which case- they have labelled the guy as someone they want rather than someone to be friends with, and had to contend with the fact they only got a friendship so far. Which is different from a guy she only wants a friendship with and never wanted sex with. The friendzone goes both ways, she can be friendzoned by the guy she finds hot and still want more, just like a guy who gets friendzoned and still wants more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/20 09:46 AM
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Scientists, gimme all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/20 03:29 PM
1

Yeah, agreed there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:17 PM
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Yup, by trying to minimize damages you also end up minimizing reward (which only reinforces the low expectations they come into this whole thing with)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:00 PM
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I think a good amount of men here are on the defensive against any sort of female exploitation, so they tend to read any expectation women have of them as unreasonable or detrimental to them. Funny, because they likely have no problem exploiting women, it's just what women are for (or perhaps, deserve).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:40 PM
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Who would've thought that a less exhausted woman would be more inclined to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:37 PM
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Single men do it for themselves, people in a relationship do it for the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:36 PM
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That's the thing, if she was attracted to you because you could hide your insecurities well, then once you open up it makes sense that she'd dump you- she didn't know how messed up you were, before, now she does- so she dumps you. Now, idk if men are less judgmental than women, but they do seem more inclined to accept insecure women despite their insecurity, as it isn't part of women's gender role to be strong and provide security for the man, but the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:19 PM
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I'd like to BE the product she wants to purchase, rather than brand myself as one. I'd rather put the money into research and development more than into my ad campaign.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:56 AM
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Society considers such men pieces of shit anyway, so assuming these people walk away on their wife and kids easily as they do, they do it DESPITE the pressure from society. Meaning that increasing the pressure won't do shit, so the expectation is that women ought to know better than to have kids with such unreliable men- if they don't know better, then their ignorance justifies a lack of respect for them by men, which isn't the same as resentment but more like laughing at someone who totaled the…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:14 PM
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IDK about how others guys do this but I don't consider a relationship good if it has to start with me being dishonest about the amount of attraction I feel or how much I need the girl. I doubt it'll work out long term if I need to do this (as i'll likely feel the need to keep doing it). I feel like women who expect this to be how men interact with them also shoot themselves in the foot just as much. I'd rather *actually* be less needy than "act like it". So long as I can't, I'd rather face rejec…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 08:33 PM
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Reflecting on what one is grateful for is a practical thing one can do in this very instant, and every day too. The rest are about a gradual change in philosophy and way of looking at life, so I can see how that isn't quite the practical solution you were aiming at. What are you looking for when it comes to what he could change right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:31 AM
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What people need to understand is that people are miserable so long as they feel prevented from getting what they want by the world. A person could have everything the average person dreams of and works hard for, but if that stuff gets in their way of getting what they want, they will resent the situation rather than be grateful. It's even worse when you feel like you're not allowed to complain or feel what you feel since you're supposedly so privileged. My advice (talking as if directly to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:21 AM
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Honestly what I see here are a lot of men who are disconnected from real life relationships, people take the anecdotes that they see online or offline that confirm the conclusions they've already arrived at via their own insecurities- "I need to be XYZ sort of man in order to get what I want from women". First of all how do you know the person behind the anecdote actually "lives" said anecdote? a girl may say she want a guy who's XYZ then date a guy who's not at all that. Secondly- a person is s…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:35 AM
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Honestly? putting yourself out there. From the studies i've read the personality trait most correlated with having more sexual partners was extroversion. If you try more -> you get more!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:19 PM
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Please do tell me why it is so important to not have people commenting on your looks when you stray from the norm. I grow my hair longer than it ought to be and dress like a hippie. People often comment on that. So? I've learned to not give a fuck. Now tell me why you have to. Tell me why you have to care for supermodels, tell me why everything about you has to be measured by how you look. Cuz frankly, no, I don't get it. And don't tell me it is all cuz of men. You're the one who's caring and hu…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 05:27 PM
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That actually isn't what I've read when i looked into it, often enough they, much like women do, say they couldn't have done anything about it and their assailant was a relatively young and attractive girl (tho usually older than them)- which made it even harder to complain or share it with anyone- like, "aren't you lucky bro?" isn't something you wanna be told when you tell someone about having been raped. I have no doubt some experiences of teens sleeping with older women are totally consensua…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 05:59 PM
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There is if you're attracted to them sexually, and you're raising the likelihood people will think of them sexually, when 12 year old girls do their best to look like adults. I also think the 12 year old does know what she's doing when she's emulating the hot girls she sees getting tremendous attention on instagram. She knows she's making herself sexy. She wants to do that for the same reason the 18 year old wants to. There's a big difference between kids walking around shirtless cuz its accepta…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 09:22 AM
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This might be a very insensitive comment I'm making, but I wonder if the fact society doesn't care that much about it when it happens to guys, also makes guys internalize the fact it doesn't matter so much, and so it actually impacts them emotionally less- cuz no one really talks about how immoral it is that a woman does this to a boy, and so the boy doesn't feel as violated, or morally outraged, as if they've been seriously wronged, as much as when this happens to a girl. So it isn't framed as …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 08:50 AM
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It's something that really shouldn't be happening in such a high prevalence tho, in what we consider to be a modern civilized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/20 08:42 AM
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I wasn't arguing with that point you've made at all, tho. I was suggesting that our ability to explain and predict a repeated phenomenon by no means makes the phenomenon simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 07:04 PM
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Psychology is a thing exactly because studying human beings is as complex if not more complex than studying the patterns of nature in physics. Are the laws of nature simple just because they are correct in predicting things? that'd be an absurd argument, and so is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 06:55 PM
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Shows trust and shows they desire me. It's no different than taking your clothes off for me before hopping into bed with me. Why wouldn't that appealing? Also to answer what you might be wondering considering onlyfans- it ain't the same when a girl sells her body, because it means absolutely nothing about me, if she gives me nudes cuz I paid her then it isn't because she desires me or trusts me in particular. Men want to be desired exclusively, even if they themselves don't want to be exclusive.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 03:06 PM
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But are they MORE likely to marry compared to their healthy peers? so what if they marry earlier...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 10:18 AM
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I think the picture is more complicated. Men would much rather have sex for sex's sake, while a woman would need to do it with a high value partner (not necessarily emotionally invested). Imo both men and women want to lock down a high value partner for a long term relationship (UNLESS they think there'd be better options out there, and often enough they do think this, i'd argue increasingly so the higher their N count), but men would far rather prefer to have sex even if the sex partner isn't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 05:03 AM
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Is the assumption here that women would prefer the sexless deeply emotional relationship? I invite you to check r/deadbedrooms for the huge amount of women who complain about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/20 04:52 AM
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Idk man, life is far more nuanced than to reduce people to a single trait and its supposed outcome and thinking you know everything there is to know about that person. With your drunk driving analogy, driving's main point is to reach from A to B quickly and safely, but with a relationship my main point is to find someone that I really like that would really like me- the point is not to "prevent cheating", cheating wouldn't happen if I'm observant enough to if she's satisfied or not anyway, at wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:41 AM
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The thing with statistics like how a woman with a large N count is more likely to cheat, is that it doesn't take into consideration individual differences inside the group of women with large N count. It only tells you the statistical average person in that group is more likely to cheat compared to the statistically average person in the group of women with a small N count. If I go by other measures that would tell me "why did she have such a high N count?" and getting a reasonable answer for th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 10:10 AM
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Honestly? I'd go for the 10+ men sorta girl. She'd have a more varied experience and knows what she wants more, I feel like. Whereas the divorced lady's husband might've been completely different from me and therefore gave her no experience with someone like myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/20 07:40 AM
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Oh I agree, a lot of those problems come from immaturity, insecurity, and an inability to think properly on what would work long term even when claiming they want an LTR. That hopefully fixes itself in time.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 11:39 PM
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Young women have a lot of issues with relationships, you see them populating the interwebs a lot to complain. I'd say even the notorious "cock carousel" which guys see as young girls having a blast, could very well be seen as just a trouble in finding LTRs with young men (idk how its like where you are, but here even tinder girls often claim to want an LTR)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 02:55 PM
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I wouldn't compare redpillers to muslims, one is a group inside a society, the other is a society in itself. I do think redpill behavior is immoral in the sense that dark triad traits, usually related to manipulation or sociopathic/narcissistic tendencies tend to be encouraged there. I don't think any society approves of these traits (although those at the top of society are likely to be high on those, I assume). I personally think that a person doesn't have to be high on those traits to succeed…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 12:40 PM
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I'd say because social conditioning cannot beat biology. Society can try all it might to say men ought to be decent, sensitive, pleasant and devoted, a person carrying these traits as their forte will not be the sort of guy that she would enjoy being ravaged by. These are traits she would like more of, in the guy she would enjoy being ravaged by, so that she could make him into an ideal LTR. Since the attractive traits in such a man are felt rather than thought of, as attraction is holistic- mea…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 09:56 AM
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Jeez whats with people and linking the outcome of something to the intention of the individual. Do you think a regular woman thinks "i'll spare his feelings so that he continues to be a walking talking wallet for society?" A dude can be nice and a girl can be not into him. He just doesn't tickle her right. But he's nice so she'd feel bad if she were cruel to him, so she rejects him in a polite way. That's it. That's all there is to it. What reason other than being unattracted to someone should t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 09:27 AM
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I think its not about "what works in reality" but about what the guy wants to do.Which means when a guy is horny it could be that he wants to be validated for his masculinity in that moment more than usual, so he'll just send his thing to simply feel like he can/get off on it? The more we want something in the moment imo the more we buy into whats it supposed to be achieving, aka biasing our reality. The more parched you are, the more a cold drink will hit just right, the more hungry, the more y…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/20 06:56 AM
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No. If you treat women like you treat your guy friends you end up with a guy-like female friend. You gotta actually initiate some interaction that hints of sexual attraction which you won't do with male friends, i assume. Heck even women I'm not trying to fuck I treat differently from men because their personality and how they'll interpret my words is different from men, so i'm a bit more polite usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:41 AM
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What you said totally made sense. This other guy's just a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:37 AM
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Are you just reading your own ideas into everything people tell you to the point nothing they can say gets through you? How you got to a guy wanting a mom is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 07:24 AM
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The research itself suggests a far more thorough investigation than ugly->less money."physical attractiveness may (a) be used as a sorting device among high school youth to determine who is worthy of continued or sustained investments of time, attention, and attachment; (b) lead to others’ assumptions that good looking youth have a wide variety of characteristics that evoke liking; and (c) influence whether young people put themselves into social situations and competitions. " are the ideas that…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:51 AM
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And yet it can be the captain of the sports team for a lot of women. Women too don't just want a singular ideal, different women have different things they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:32 AM
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He tries what?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:30 AM
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Because when you are a guy, and aim to become some ideal man, you do think you'd be guaranteed women for it if that's part of the motivation to become that ideal. But where does a person get the ideal in the first place? they must look around in their environment- "what would get me what I want? (which includes women)" The idea they decide somehow in a male-filled vacuum to become that ideal, as if only through what gets men to say "good for you", and that female attraction has nothing to do wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:26 AM
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I think the one with the hurt ego is yourself. The idea that someone is "unnecessarily pedantic" when they're trying to discuss exactly the subtleties of status is unhelpful. If there's an overlap but not complete overlap then they are not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 06:01 AM
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Women want a dude. Other dudes look at that dude and say "hey, he's getting all those women, how does he do that?" so they attach that dude's traits to what gets the women. But they don't see what about the totality of the dude's character is making him get the women, but if the dude has a boat with lots of women on it, they might think "oh, the trait of having a lot of money is what gets the women" and so they aim for it. But what started it all? their observation that the guy is getting female…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/20 05:53 AM
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I always thought women handled it way better honestly, they seem to have girlfriends to rely on who they can actually talk about real life troubles and not just for banter (thats what the boys are for!), and group hobbies like yoga and pilates and what not, IMO that shields them from depression when they can't find a suitable partner. Maybe this is something guys ought to learn from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/20 08:00 AM
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What I found really interesting when looking into the full table was the fear rating of being harassed when alone was tremendously larger than when with girlfriends: Fear was 71.9% when alone, enjoyment was 0.5%, verbal reaction 4.4% Fear was 0.9% when with girlfriends! enjoyment was 26.5%, and verbal reaction was 53.1%. It seems to me that when a woman feels safe or can pass it off as a joke with her friends, it becomes much more tolerable, perhaps even an anecdote to share with others later on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 08:55 PM
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It could very well be that they never respected you in the first place.I don't go fucking women I'm not really into, but a good amount of girls seem to me almost like carbon copies of each other personality wise, making it so that there's not that much to respect them for in the first place. If that is the case also for these alpha men who fuck around, then I'd imagine the guy simply keeps you entertained for the purposes of getting in your pants- All the attention and fun you're getting from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/20 04:32 PM
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So much of attraction comes from what we know is valuable in our culture. Had she dated an ugly guy, what would her girl friends say? what would her family? and most importantly, what would it mean about her own value, what she thinks she's worth? So she learned the basic rules of what is intuitively attractive in the culture, learned of her own attractiveness, and goes based on that, looksmatching without the ability to look. it doesn't strike me as odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 07:51 AM
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Good for you man, keep it going!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 11:01 AM
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Purge week is a reminder to us all of just how much mods are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 12:58 PM
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Make an online dating account, you'll find them after some sifting through debris.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:51 AM
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I'm sorry but the amount of difficulty you get when *you* have to do the work and message hundreds of girls (each one wants to be addressed individually so no copy pasting) to get a few work-able replies, does not equal the difficulty of having to sift through crappy men that pretty much rule themselves out with their stupid profiles.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 09:22 AM
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Wow the amount of toxicity here from bitter men is astounding. Hope you didn't take it too seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:16 AM
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Put an ugly dude's pic on there and see how many "wanna dig into his psyche", i promise you it'd be exactly 0. Interest is generated by attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 08:11 AM
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Wouldn't be surprised if that explains some of it, but not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:58 AM
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Yikes what a stupid debate. No one in the real world actually goes around hating men for starting a friendly chat and seeing if the woman would wanna do that some more. Yes it can be imposing, but they can tell the person to fuck off. And no I don't remember that being against any person's rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 07:51 AM
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Because I see nothing wrong with "my type" of men? At least in theory, there should be no problem for me to get a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/20 05:38 AM
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Most introverted women I spoke to still want an extroverted partner- so as to balance their introversion, and to rely on to do extroverted stuff that they themselves can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:51 AM
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Because faking yourself would get you shitty men who aren't interested in you. It's all about the value of the expected outcome. A guy faking himself in this situation still might get what he wants- getting laid, perhaps a gf that isn't too much trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:49 AM
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Women would like men to stop being bad monkeys. They can spot the desperation behind it. The good monkeys pass as they fooled you enough to think they are truly the way they appear to be. The need for an outgoing performative persona is real, you will rarely find a first date in which a man is themselves. Not that I think women are totally themselves in a first date, but men much more so. I tried "being myself" enough times, being told time and time again that "there was no spark". Well of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/20 07:31 AM
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Who decided the listening and empathizing part was the woman's share of the housework? If you start ranting to her with that expectation, you've decided her share for her, when how the housework should be split ought to be a joint decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 03:19 PM
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The person said "why would you expect anything in exchange". I gave the answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:58 AM
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Because when you work for free you get resentful. Thats where this all started from. I think it doesn't take much effort to listen to a person when you know the person will listen back to you. The issue is the non-reciprocity, and you can't say there's nothing expected in return just because at the moment you listen you don't feel you're doing it for a reason. If you do something for someone, you better assume there's a reason beyond just "wanting to be nice"- it's wanting to be nice to THEM, sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:39 AM
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So you're basically just confirming the idea that men shouldn't be vulnerable with their women. Gotcha.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/20 06:36 AM
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I think he won't be indifferent but it will be really low down his priority list compared to things like "is she pleasant to be around?" "does she laugh at my jokes" and various other things. So many other things men value in a woman come prior, so unless the guy is the sort who really values achievement in their partner, you'll find men mostly disagreeing here. I think the case you presented just doesn't stand, it'd be like me saying "because foot size and dick size correlate, women ultimately …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 07:35 PM
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I think there's basically an a-priori understanding where its clear to women that men want to fuck them regardless of how they are like- if they're pretty/appealing/pleasant/valuable etc or not at all, men are still down to fuck, hence compliments given by men to women tells them very little about themselves, it's as if the dude is saying "I'm horny and you could help me with that". While compliments given to men by women (including those with clear sexual intent) where there's no such A-priori …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/20 06:56 PM
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I don't think men dislike it. Being approached by a girl is a compliment maybe exactly because of how unusual it is for women to go out of their way to do that.But because it is unusual, they might be taken aback by it, might think there's something shady going on (ulterior motive), or just think you might be desperate. That said, I think the best way to get what you want is to go for it, whether you are a man or a woman, it just increases the chances of getting the thing you want compared to a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 01:15 PM
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IDK if anyone here addressed this yet but OP made a huge mistake- the chart he uses to determine the difference in wages is REAL median income, it's already adjusted for inflation. It basically means that the situation HAS infact improved since 1975 (in 1975 they'd have 23,500 dollars to spend, and we'd have 32,000 dollars to spend on 1975's prices!) I couldn't find charts on personal income, but i found ones for household income: https://www.advisorperspectives.com/images/content_image/data/f9/…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/20 09:07 AM
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I honestly don't know what can be done. In the past men were put into situations where they had to work together with other men, be it at work or the military, sport teams and so on, men had things to do together. They'd then go have drinks with mates they are actually close to after work as well. Nowdays maybe there just aren't any such places where men get to be men. Maybe we don't even know what "getting to be men" even means anymore. The only place I am aware of that still offers that for yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:29 AM
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There's something I always wondered about, and i'd like your opinion on it- How do women judge personality with only a first date? I often feel like I barely know people even if i've been around them and talking to them for weeks. Like unless a date has gone clearly badly, I'd never be able to say "there's no chemistry", cuz how the hell could i know from such a short time? but I've had women reject me a good number of times with that sort of reason despite conversation being pleasant enough. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/20 05:17 PM
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That's what I heard from other women with whom I've talked about this. Seems like the dating apps themselves are at fault for making it so that people focus on looks. A real shame that- as it's hard to convey one's personality with only a few introductory messages. (And that's what men gotta work with, from my experience dating app conversations don't last long, either settle a date quick or she moves on to one of the hundreds of other thirsty boys)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/20 05:42 PM
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"Women who don't like men are pretty content alone" I think men rely on women for emotional intimacy even more than women do with men, as women have other women for it, and men especially nowdays seem less and less to have other men for it. Even physical intimacy in a platonic way is more acceptable for women with other women, vs men with other men.I think men lack the awareness that these two things are also greatly needed by them, and often conflate those with sex, so that when "men want sex" …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 07:00 AM
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But just like there's a lot more to food than simple carbs, there's a lot more to sex than just "getting off". A masturbation only lifestyle is the sexual equivalent of eating sweetened breakfast cereal 3 times a day every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 06:38 AM
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What you're saying here doesn't add up statistically. I don't get how there's a lot of 10/10 women but not a lot of 10/10 men. I think what's happening here is like the often quoted statistic on the OKCupid blog that women rated 80% of men as average or below. This bias doesn't seem to happen to men. (The original post seems to have been deleted, so here's one off google: https://blogs.sas.com/content/sastraining/2014/10/16/how-do-men-rate-women-on-dating-websites-part-2/) I'm assuming if women …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 10:22 PM
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Lets go by what you say and assume women who are 8s go for 3s. Now who dates the women who are 7 and under then? 2s and 1s? My, those 2s and 1s sure have a lot of women to choose from, I pity the 2/3rds of all women tho for having to bear with only the bottom tier men! all the 4s and up men clearly are only into 9s and 10s! But how does that fit with "men's standards are on the ground they will fuck a raw chicken"?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 09:20 PM
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I'm gonna go on a limb here and guess that the men who require her service aren't failing because of their own high requirements but because they often don't meet the requirements of members of the other gender...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 08:40 PM
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LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/20 11:11 AM
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Oh, didn't expect such a nice response xD My guess is that a place like purple pill (at least compared to red/blue pill) draws in a certain personality that enjoys being perpetually on the fence, relative to others, and being like that for a long enough time makes you accumulate a lot of knowledge. There's actually a term for this in social psychology: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closure_(psychology)#:~:text=Closure%20or%20need%20for%20closure,tendency%20to%20seek%20out%20information) People w…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 06:21 AM
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Well, people may go to a prostitute knowing that her desire is likely fake- but they get to participate in a sort of role playing and that's enough to take them out of the... vacuum of their current existence. Of course there you get to do the act itself but I think it still works similarly here, psychologically- you get to feel special through seeing and being sent things that are more intimate than what those others who don't pay get, and that's enough to be a pleasant distraction from a life …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 05:58 AM
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The... jews? are responsible for allowing kids to see this? And are you talking about the same youtube that demonetizes videos for having the word "shit" in them? As well as this? https://www.insider.com/youtubers-identify-title-words-that-get-videos-demonetized-experiment-2019-10
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/20 05:24 AM
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Heroin users are glad to pay for their fix, but they had to have gone through some pretty miserable time to get to that point. Just because there's demand for something doesn't mean it's good to supply it. For many men this is a way to continue their rut, never break out of their shell, and be content with fake sexual attention for money rather than an actual connection with and desire from a girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 06:51 AM
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But is there even a female equivalent to that? Is there a certain hobby or lifestyle that men find attractive by itself in a girl, regardless of the girl's looks? Seems to me it's always limited to what they (men) themselves enjoy. So by women's interests I mean literally- what interests them (I deliberately didn't use the word hobby)- moody guitar players being one of those.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:59 AM
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Was it? not exactly an avid watcher.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:57 AM
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Ahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:52 AM
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Yeah that last thing is why I asked that second question. In particular after that post a few weeks ago that suggested that guys should do their best to get into what women like if they wanna maximize their chances with them: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/gymqgn/remember_to_always_be_yourself_unless_you_suck/ . I wanted to see what happens if the genders are reversed. Interestingly it seems that while women did generally think it's good advice for men to try to conform to wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/20 12:03 AM
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I never once compromised in the way you suggest to compromise- I always stuck to doing only what interests me alone. That made me pretty lonely at times, but I learned how to deal with that. Eventually this "strategy" got me a girl that likes what I'm into. Couldn't wish for anything else. From that position I tell you that I don't see the necessity for anyone to change their interests/activities to what appeals to women- because what they'd be attracted to wouldn't be truly you. And not only is…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 08:49 PM
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That big boy poopy habit of yours of portraying anyone who doesn't have a place or hobby that attracts women as a baby or an alien, is the assumption I'm talking about. Let me reverse the genders here- I think the best way for a woman to prove herself as a good one I should date is to be good in the kitchen. It's just what I appreciate the most in a woman. So I come to purple pill where some women are talking about how difficult it is to get a good man nowdays, and tell women that if they want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/20 06:43 AM
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You seem to be making a lot of assumptions. Just because people criticize what you're saying doesn't make them into aliens immediately. Granted- you have a point, relationships are an exchange and love is conditional, But if I was a D&D DM and that was my life, then in return I would expect a whole lot from the person I give it up for, a person who is only theoretical (cuz no one is attracted to me now) at the time I give up on it. I don't know if you've ever had such a passion, but I think it's…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 10:28 PM
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I think there exists a point of satiation for most people where they've had enough, but maybe the novelty of often having a different person makes one more eager.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 09:11 PM
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Some people live in such a dark world until they get out of it. I think the problem here isn't that what Dang describes isn't prevalent, it exists, but he describes the "natural state" as if "that's how it ought to be" state which is a famous fallacy. Just because politicians go for power rather than to represent some genuine ideals, doesn't mean it should be that way or that we should get used to it as "the reality". Therefore people who want something other than this "natural state", if they l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 08:52 PM
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Well, I want to understand why D&D is not considered living a full life but slam poetry is. Why should your preferences be more important to a man than his own? To win your favor? What do you give in return? sex? or do you change your preferences to fit with your man's? seems to me the sex part takes the major part from the woman in the exchange. So men have to change their personality while you just have to give them access to your body. Which is easier to do? The way I see it, maybe MGTOW has …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/20 08:35 PM
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Who set up what you consider as success? Who decided what high value men are supposed to be like?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/20 08:33 AM
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Here's an alternative narrative- I see self care as a sort of OCD obsession. While people claim it is empowering and therefore do it to get better, I see it as a mask for their insecurities. If you wouldn't dare go out of your house before you invested 30 minutes at least in your self-care routine, so that no one who knows you will ever catch you in an unkempt shape, you are wearing a mask to protect yourself from the world's judgement, not "empowered" but rather just scared. Mental self-care an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 06:03 AM
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If i had to wipe after peeing, i'd wash my hands too, but since a good shake is enough, I'm good to go. Also in public bathrooms you're gonna be touching a door that a thousand other non-washers touched.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/20 05:51 AM
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Very well said. I suppose that is exactly what needs to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 08:01 PM
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I appreciate the comment, and I liked the example. What I tried to point out is that the other person doesn't see that they're crushing themselves for the sake of their promised reward. Maybe it's backed by a sense of fair play? losers lose and winners win and that's how it should be. Perhaps they never saw there was another way. I think men never even had the ability to look at it in the way women do- to look at themselves as a group, see the game the group plays, and ask "who set the game up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 10:40 PM
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People seem to take people-pleasing as being agreeable. That's not the way I mean it. What I mean is that people competing to be alpha can be just as people-pleasing if not more, than agreeable betas. They fight amongst themselves for the sake of reward as female attention. Their expectations of themselves and other men all come from what they think women like- an alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 07:26 AM
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Then I don't think you got my message. Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 07:22 AM
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The status amongst men are what you use to appeal to the ladies. This post was actually made cuz I saw a woman on quora making the case that both "pick-mes" and staceys (basically female beta and alphas as far as i'm concerned), do their best in their respective ways to compete with other women- either doing your best to be prettiest or most charming, or by saying "i'm not like other women" its all just different strategies that translate to by the end of it- enforcing on other women and yoursel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 07:21 AM
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Agreed. A whole lot of just dealing with the consequences is needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:57 AM
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It was meant to be a discussion, but I guess since there were a lot of statements made, I was told by the mod to make it a CMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/20 06:54 AM
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When people talk in generalizations, even if those generalizations have some truth to them, they forget about all the exceptions to the rule and that's a shame. I think people also tend to forget that even the most privileged people in terms of socioeconomic status can still have mental health issues, health problems, terrible family troubles and so on. Instead of competing for who has the biggest scars, as if only those with the biggest ones deserve compassion (and in the process adding new sca…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:59 PM
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I've seen that claim made a lot- "don't date a girl over 25" as if they are already damaged goods. But more in redpill circles and youtube comments than in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/20 05:47 PM
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And I got a lot more compliments whenever I did have a stubble. So maybe you just have a different taste. Not to mention that healthcare routine could infact damage your skin. Whenever my gf goes on vacation and out of time constraints neglects her beauty care routine her face starts peeling, all kinds of weird things start happening- it's as if the skin gets used to ABUSE instead of care. Remove the obsessive care part and it's revealed for what it really is. They should really test the science…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:54 AM
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Why should one invest in what isn't that important to them? I'm perfectly fine with using 3 in 1 shampoo soap thing. Makes me smell minty. And it could be that I'm simply uneducated on the subject, and will suffer for it in the future, but my skin as of right now seems just fine to me, and the few blemishes I do notice I hide with a beard. So I don't refuse help, I refuse criticism of things that I consider irrelevant to my well being. Just because you've learned that without beauty products you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 07:38 AM
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Good point on how redpill is sexist towards men. It needs that sexism to promote its goal- you despise the beta to promote the behavior you think is good- that of the alpha. I think it can be said that radical feminism is dogmatic in a similar sense- when a woman doesn't agree with its tenets, she is often said to have "internalized misogyny"- even when a woman simply uses her natural beauty to promote herself and therefore gain a higher position in society, she is somehow promoting values harmf…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:18 PM
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But the key to solving this is to realize that this group isn't actually homogeneous or unified in their indifference towards you, and that involves giving individuals from the other team a chance. Until then it's just stagnation and missed opportunities, as it's implicit in the "revenge ignoring" lets call it, that there is a will to bond still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 06:08 PM
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According to that chart just wait till she hits 11 partners...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 09:35 AM
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Want and control seem to go together. If a woman wants a good man wouldn't she love to put him under her spell, make him hers forever? Seems odd to me that the desire of men for women is used as a weapon against men, seeing as being desired by women is the object of any man. Maybe men trust themselves more to not be controlled by the desire of another? Food for thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 11:39 PM
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Ok I've been trying to understand the logic behind that comment, it was difficult but I think I finally got it- basically the betas just like the alpha only want sex, but have a hard time getting it so they settle down just to get sex on a regular basis? the issue here is that this is just the narrative of wannabe alphas, the beta's reasoning is hopefully that they actually like you (although an alpha would basically turn into a beta as soon as they admit this, according to that logic). Personal…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/20 04:29 AM
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The thing about the average is that extremely high numbers really mess with it, and this can make the picture seem very different from reality- if one chad had 100 partners and another 9 incels had 0, we'll get an average of 10 per guy, very far from reality. This is just an assumption, but even if everyone was totally honest about their numbers, these chads are probably the reason the average for men is higher than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:10 PM
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Yeah, I just really don't see how this is showing me anything about feminists. Shows me that raging misandrist trolls have internet access.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 08:58 PM
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Hey autists and psychopaths are two different animals. Be kind to the other zoo inhabitants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:54 PM
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roger that, over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:44 PM
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Well you clearly haven't clicked that link. Your cock can't grow those spikes either... But I get what you mean, it's a blow to one's masculinity to admit they need it bigger. However, you're aware of how big a market there is for breast enlargement surgery, and cosmetic surgery in general, yes? and penis enlargement and viagra and so on... Seems to me like people are willing to deal with these blows.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:31 PM
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Here's a thought- if you're in the 1% top earners, then you're probably a career oriented man, would a career oriented man look for a career oriented woman, that would force him to compromise his career (cuz they will split the household stuff 50-50), or would he prefer one that'd stay at home and do the things he ain't good at/doesn't wanna do? And a woman who sees her place at home, more than in a career, wouldn't she look for someone who would allow her that lifestyle? the fact that there is …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 12:18 PM
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Not saying they won't feel hurt. Asking people for something different than they already provide when they thought it's all good, is always gonna hurt. But it is inevitable when living with a person, unless you somehow in a truly amazing coincidence, tick all of each others boxes fully without ever needing to negotiate. I take issue with the idea that hurt = break up, nothing more.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:44 AM
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But why does it make you miserable in the first place? do you think stuff like this (NSFW): https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H5f3b6ad784594f30801970e7cf0408e1S/5PCS-Penis-Sleeve-Penis-Enlarger-Nozzle-Penis-Dick-Extension-condom-Men-Massager-Cock-Exercise-Ring-Cover.jpg Would go unappreciated by the other side? wouldn't they want to please you in return? Her greater pleasure somehow emasculates you? if so by what do you even measure your masculinity?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 11:02 AM
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If you care about someone, you do what it takes to please them (this goes for both men and women). If you think it's not worth it, then sure, go ahead and find someone else. But again, I really doubt it's just the bigger cock, just like you probably wouldn't break up with a girl just cuz your previous girl had bigger boobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:47 AM
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There's penis extension toys. They come in many shapes and sizes and can be really damn fun. Also just cuz she imagines a bigger dick because she's deprived of something she misses in her sex life, doesn't mean that's exactly what she needs- I might be imagining hot ginger ladies when i'm horny but when she's available, I go do my gf and i'm satisfied. if their sex lives were as good as she wants it, I doubt she'd be asking for a bigger dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:34 AM
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I just think I have a grasp on how minds work. When you're lacking in something, you'll start imagining what it is you are lacking. It doesn't even mean that it was indeed that good, it's your imagination fuelled by the amount you're lacking in it, that makes it so- if you were stuck in the middle of the desert without water, you'll start imagining water sources as if your life depended on it (and it does). But take a glass of water now and it's just "meh". If their sex life isn't good enough (b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 10:23 AM
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Why are the measures offered here always so decisive? You think you can't talk to your girl about your sex life and see how it can be improved? (I'm talking as if you're the OP) If she wants more and you can provide it (there's all kinds of interesting toys to help) then do so. Then you wait and see if she's still digging it or not. Over time if you're observant and communicative you'll see if what you try to improve is helping the relationship or just making you guys go further apart, and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/20 09:09 AM
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