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| – | Why aren't males attending singles events anymore?I don't know if fear of rejection is the cause. Its more that a lot of women in these events are trying to date up, so its a lose-lose proposition for the men. Theres no real winning. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/24 03:30 AM |
| – | Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"?Not everyone cares about attracting as many women as possible, though. Some men would rather be authentic and date from a smaller dating pool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Paternity tests should be bannedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtOEig1l8SA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/24 10:45 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"?The guy in this scenario has a full time job and is self sufficient | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/08/24 01:44 AM |
| 8 | Do you think it possible for a male to be sexist but not misogynistic? Examples of this?Theres benevolent sexism and hostile sexism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambivalent_sexism Hostile sexism is hatred of women and the desire to oppress and mistreat them. Benevolent sexism is the belief that men have an obligation to protect and provide for women because women are incapable of taking care of themselves without men. Studies have shown that women actually prefer men with benevolent sexist traits. Obviously they do not like hostile sexist traits though. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 03:32 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"?I didn't downvote it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 12:17 PM |
| 14 | Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"?Thats a valid counterpoint. But what about a man who has a full time job and supports himself as an independent adult, but he is very submissive, weak willed, uses all his free time on video games, etc. He is still a productive member of society, just not attractive to most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 05:25 AM |
| 41 | Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"?My issue is that a woman will look at a man who is submissive, weak, passive, underemployed, anxious, spends all his free time on video games, etc and see him as pathetic and not a real man. They will tell him to man up because he isn't fulfilling his gender role as a provider and protector of women and children. But if a woman eschews having kids and getting married and instead decides to get a graduate degree and work 80 hours a week making six figures, if any man says she is wasting her life … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 04:32 AM |
| 7 | How does a bad mother effect a person when they reach adulthood ?Well written. The only thing I'd add is that mom's can be abusive too, not just neglecting to protect the child from abuse by others, but also being the abuser too. My mom was physically, verbally, and emotionally abusive. She also neglected us emotionally and sometimes physically. Her kids are all middle-aged now, but it fucked us for life on a deep level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 03:18 AM |
| 3 | How does a bad mother effect a person when they reach adulthood ?Neil Strauss said most men in the PUA movement had narcissistic mothers. So there is that. I was involved in PUA and am ex-red pill. I had a distant, enabler father and a narcissistic mother too. https://newrepublic.com/article/123125/can-pickup-artist-unlearn-his-tricks Rehab, he said, wasn’t the answer (“Whatever sex-positive is, this place was just sex-negative”), but it did give him the chance to talk about his childhood—specifically, his controlling, self-absorbed mom. She had no boundaries… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/24 02:50 AM |
| 60 | Q4M: Do you find it sexist when people say "Man up!"?Yes, it's an insult to demand men conform to oppressive gender roles. Just because those oppressive gender roles benefit women doesn't mean they aren't restrictive and oppressive. It's no different than telling a woman who is childfree by choice and who works 80 hours a week to 'get back in the kitchen and stop being a lesbian'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 10:34 PM |
| 3 | Why do women agree and then ghost?I have no idea, but I'm going to save you some time and sum up most of the responses you'll get. Something....something......something......your fault | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:57 PM |
| 1 | DEBATE: Most 'alpha males' are only able to act like alpha males because the real alpha males (law enforcement) will protect them from the consequences of their actionsNope. It's more that abusive men know the government will protect them from consequences. Many of you guys have no reading comprehension skills. That or you engage in logical fallacies. Reddit sucks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 08:22 PM |
| -3 | DEBATE: Most 'alpha males' are only able to act like alpha males because the real alpha males (law enforcement) will protect them from the consequences of their actionsI guess it depends on your definition of alpha. I'm not talking about alpha males who are protective and have alliances with other people. I'm talking about the abusive, dark triad men who try to rise to the top by mistreating everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 07:16 PM |
| 1 | DEBATE: Most 'alpha males' are only able to act like alpha males because the real alpha males (law enforcement) will protect them from the consequences of their actionsHow would you explain the fact that in less civilized animal species, the alphas are even more dominant over the women, not less… Those animal species don’t have police to regulate things and yet what you’re suggesting still doesn’t actually play out. Depends on the species. Gorillas and chimpanzees are very patriarchal, but bonobos are more matriarchal and pro-social. Also the ability to make and use weapons, the ability to plan, and the ability to use language are all important to gang up on a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 07:14 PM |
| -2 | DEBATE: Most 'alpha males' are only able to act like alpha males because the real alpha males (law enforcement) will protect them from the consequences of their actionsNot in gorillas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 07:07 PM |
| 2 | DEBATE: Most 'alpha males' are only able to act like alpha males because the real alpha males (law enforcement) will protect them from the consequences of their actionsYeah but if there were no legal consequences, I am pretty sure a group of 50 people would be more than willing to beat the living hell out of the ~5 bullies who harass disabled people. But the police will track down those 50 people and throw them in prison, and the 5 bullies know it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 06:55 PM |
| 0 | DEBATE: Most 'alpha males' are only able to act like alpha males because the real alpha males (law enforcement) will protect them from the consequences of their actionsThey don't need to be killed, but if they knew they'd face organized violence they'd be less prone to alpha male behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 06:54 PM |
| 6 | Do you think men leaving the west for better dating prospect will create a significant brain drain and negative economic consequences in the west? Or will it remain insignificant?There seems to be a lot of autism spectrum disorder among incels, but that spectrum is also common in people who do well in technology fields. So it's not the bottom of the barely necessarily. It's also guys in their 30s who have graduate degrees in computer science who can't date domestically due to autism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Do you think men leaving the west for better dating prospect will create a significant brain drain and negative economic consequences in the west? Or will it remain insignificant?No. Those 6 figure tech workers will get brides, then bring them back to the US. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 04:37 PM |
| 1 | Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcePkwagNFA | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 06:20 AM |
| -4 | Why do women dislike video games and men who play them ?I'll choose the guy who's video games and korn, I mean, I guess. you mah brrrr ra da mmba eeeeenba brrr rat da nnda enda boo..rata teek um blura brrrr ra..duck ba dingo ba bitty ah ta freeta beeta ooh ra subuh dee ma ooh..rrrr reema ya me maraha suh bit ra da eemah a hin ta boo ra da eee wazizza ooh..ra suh ma heen na neena renaha..ooh hoo ra..ya da bin boorrrrra! Twist... twist.. twist... twist bo beh brrrrr rat da hing da brr at see muh ya min brrrr ah ha na hing na rin buh tingbu rin na brrrr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 01:08 AM |
| 6 | Give her the chaos she cravesIf you put out traits that unstable women want, thats what you'll end up with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 01:49 AM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?because I'm not panting at the sight of him, based on just how he looks,which is apparently what men really want. I wonder if those men are just projecting their own behaviors onto women. Thats how men respond to attractive women. I don't know the details, but the brain areas that light up during attraction are somewhat different in mens brains vs women's brains. https://www.therenewalpoint.com/education/blog/sex-and-the-female-brain/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 11:05 PM |
| – | A Lot Of Homophobia Towards Men From Men Stems From MisogynyThats fair. I am under the impression that men are generally prohibited from doing anything feminine. I am not sure if that applies across all cultures, or just some. But the definition of what is considered feminine varies by culture. I'm guessing in Afghanistan, a man may never let his wife earn all the money but he will happily have sex with young boys. In the US, a man wearing a dress and makeup is seen as very feminine. In other misogynistic cultures men wear dresses and makeup. In our cult… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 10:54 PM |
| – | A Lot Of Homophobia Towards Men From Men Stems From MisogynyI disagree, because in a lot of cultures there is male on male homosexuality and/or male on male pedophilia and those cultures can be very misogynistic. Afghanistan culture for example. Extremely misogynistic, but also full of adult male rape of male children. Watch the movie the Kite Runner. Or read stories of what the Afghanistan soldiers did to little boys that caused the US soldiers to keep 'accidentally' killing them in training accidents. Ancient greece, full of male homosexual relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 10:47 PM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?All the musicians and celebrities who have had 1000+ sexual partners who were young, attractive women didn't achieve that in a vacuum. Capital (resources) come in various flavors. Social capital (fame, status, respect) Financial capital (money) Political capital (power, influence) But yes, it's degrading and depressing to be desirable solely for your resources. Just like a man viewing a woman as a collection of body parts (face, breasts, butt, thighs, uterus) rather than a person is degrading an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 09:23 PM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?Yeah, this has been my experience, too. Women tend to find my personality attractive but not my appearance. Ironically, when I was younger, I was the opposite. I was physically attractive but had an unattractive personality. But I think there's two unspoken bars women have (this is my impression as a man) that men have to pass when it comes to finding men attractive. Bar 1 - Is he attractive enough (looks and resources) for me to consider him as a potential romantic/sexual partner. Bar 2 - Does … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 09:13 PM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?Yeah it is, I've met them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 09:09 PM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?I would assume the categories do vary by woman, though. Some women may put more weight in a sense of humor than other women would. Some may put more weight on a man's artistic abilities than other women would. Also, would you say that the more attractive a man is, the less work it takes for him to move from meh status to attractive status? Like a guy who is a 9 with a good sense of humor may become attractive, but a man whose a 5 needs a good sense of humor, intelligence, a good job, good commun… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 09:08 PM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?Ate you sapiosexual as a primary sexual orientation? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 09:01 PM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?As a heterosexual man, I can appreciate a beautiful man. It's like looking at a piece of art, but I'm not attracted to them. I'm wondering if that's the same thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 08:58 PM |
| – | Do you actually only find a tiny fraction of men attractive?I was under the impression that women might not find men attractive off the bat the way men find women attractive off the bat. A woman puts most strange men in the 'meh' category. But as a woman learns more about a man's resources, status, personality, protector abilities, communication skills, etc, she may move him from meh territory to attractive territory. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 08:56 PM |
| – | Why do women often prefer dad bods over six-packs?Yup. Hot = handsome, tall, athletic, bodyfat around 6% Dad bod = handsome, tall, athletic, bodyfat around 15% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 06:07 PM |
| – | Why do women often prefer dad bods over six-packs?Pretty much. Fit Chad, who is still tall, handsome, and attractive, just not so fit and attractive that the woman has to feel insecure about her own body or about him cheating. Or so his entire life revolves around fitness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 05:50 PM |
| – | Why do women often prefer dad bods over six-packs?I get the impression women think a dad bod is a tall, fit man with an extra 10-30 pounds of fat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 05:37 PM |
| – | Why do women often prefer dad bods over six-packs?As a man, I am under the impression it's because a man with a dad bod is less likely to cheat, less likely to make a woman feel insecure about her own physical flaws, and because guys with very chisled bodies spend way too much time and money on their appearance. Time and money they could spend on other more productive things. Also, guys with extreme diets and exercise regimens do not have the flexibility to get drunk, go on vacations, go out to dinner, etc, like everyone else because their macr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/24 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?tree fiddy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 05:21 AM |
| 2 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?Men will still like you when you're over 30. Just not as much as they did at 24. But you'll still have options to have a family and date when you're over 30. It'll just be a bit harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 09:49 PM |
| 11 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?You might as well ask why do women demonize short men, men who are social pariahs, or men who are broke so much. Because we evolved to reproduce and produce high quality offspring. The more offspring and the higher quality the offspring, the more the genes that predispose us to that behavior get passed on. There have been animals in history that were solely attracted to menopausal women, and women who are solely attracted to men with no resources or ability to protect. But those people didn't pa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?ah, but when women look only for genetically superior men so their offspring will get better genes then it's OK I never said that. I said the opposite. If you're a man and you want to drown in female attention just have good genes (aka good looks), a V shaped torso, be tall, be handsome, have a lot of capital (fame, money, influence, power, respect). Women will flock to you. But the second you lose those things 99% of the women will abandon you. If you get in a car wreck that disfigures you, mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 08:29 PM |
| 6 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?Women over 30 can still get LTRs, just like short men or men without money can get LTRs. Its just a little harder. On the plus side, the people who are attracted to you are going to be more decent. If you're a man and you're tall, rich and handsome you'll get a lot of women after you. But those women will mostly abandon you the second you have hard times. Same as for a woman who is young and attractive. You'll get a lot of attention, but those men will abandon you if you won't have sex with them… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 07:38 PM |
| 19 | Do men just not care about being abused as much as women?As a man, I disagree. Men are afraid a woman will beat the shit out of them, then file a false police report saying he abused and raped her. Then he will face a long, expensive legal battle. He will lose his job, his family and friends will turn on him, and he may face jail time. Men fear that far far more than we fear being laughed at. EDIT: Also men deeply fear losing all their assets and their children if they divorce a vindictive woman. There are a decent amount of men who stay in miserable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 06:10 PM |
| – | Is Anti-Immigration/Refugee Sentiment Partly Fueled by the Fear of Sexual Competition?https://europeanconservative.com/articles/news/foreigners-responsible-for-77-of-solved-rape-cases-in-paris-in-2023/ The figures, recorded by Paris Police Headquarters, revealed that 77% of rape cases in the capital solved in 2023 had been committed by perpetrators who do not hold French passports, with the majority of sexual crimes transpiring in and around tourist areas like Champs de Mars—soon to be packed with visitors to the games. There are a couple of potential issues with that. That i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 11:44 PM |
| – | Is Anti-Immigration/Refugee Sentiment Partly Fueled by the Fear of Sexual Competition?In the south in the US, under Jim crow and slavery it was. There was a massive massive terror of black men having sex with white women. That isn't related to immigration or refugees, but it was related to in-group men having to sexually compete with out-group men. In fact I remember reading the definition of a black man having sex with a white woman under the criminal statutes of a southern state during Jim Crow. The definition said that if a black man had sex with a white woman 'either by trick… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 11:32 PM |
| 25 | A real man wouldn't avoid single mothers when datingAs an obese, bald man let me tell you why 'real' women who are high value would prefer an obese, bald man over a thin man with all his hair. Because it makes my life easier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 04:33 PM |
| 0 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I agree. If you approach a woman with the intent of sexually exploiting her, you don't respect her boundaries, and you don't take no for an answer then that kind of behavior needs to be called out and shamed. Women should feel safe in public. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:55 AM |
| 12 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I agree. If you can read body language and you're respectful, you can pick up on signs of interest or disinterest pretty fast. I did a lot of cold approaches in college. If you have basic social skills, the vast majority that end in rejection end in polite rejection. Im just saying it's very selfish for so many women to shame men for approaching them, then turn around and shame men for not approaching them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Pretty much. The more quality options someone has, the higher they can set their price. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:19 AM |
| 28 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Do what we want, when we want, how we want, where we want, but only by the ones we want. No, not like that! Having said that, when I was back in college, girls actually enjoyed being approached. I'm not sure if that's the case now, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:15 AM |
| 37 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Apparently, 'read my mind before talking to me' is not an effective social strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:13 AM |
| 3 | CMV: women aren't empathetic caring individualsYou gotta pay the Troll Toll. If you wanna get into that boy's hole: You gotta pay the Troll Toll: To get in! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:32 PM |
| 2 | CMV: women aren't empathetic caring individualsYou have no idea how toxic you are. People have likely blown smoke up your ass your entire life and now you're wildly misinformed. Or you do know how toxic you are and you're a troll. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:28 PM |
| 6 | CMV: women aren't empathetic caring individualsChances are it was in self-defense and you deserved every bit of it. This is toxic femininity, blaming the man when a woman does something abusive, toxic, and illegal. It's no different than misogynistic cultures where a man beats up his wife, and everyone asks her 'what did you do wrong to make him upset' I bet next you'll be saying 13 year old boys who were statutorily raped by 50 year old women deserve to be thrown in prison for seducing the helpless, poor middle-aged woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:26 PM |
| 1 | CMV: women aren't empathetic caring individualsIn my experience, women are more empathetic than men unless it's with a potential or active sexual or romantic partner. Then women can become very callous and demanding when then man shows weakness, vulnerability, or problems. Obligatory, not all women. But it's quite a few. Deep down inside, women evolved to view male romantic partners as objects that exist to provide for them and protect them. That's why MGTOW calls men 'workhorses'. Men objectify women for their bodies, and women objectify me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:18 PM |
| 2 | Why do men accuse beautiful women gold diggers?Assortative mating is a real thing, and one of the factors people focus on in assortative mating is looks. Attractive men end up with attractive women. Average men end up with average women. Ugly men end up with ugly women. Generally. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assortative_mating Having said that, several things can happen when people hit their 30s. One partner significantly declines in attractiveness while the other partner remains attractive. things that made a man attractive in the past … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 05:50 AM |
| 1 | Why do men accuse beautiful women gold diggers?When women reach the epiphany phase, they realize their fertile window is closing and they can't compete with younger women. So they start questioning their mate choices and prioritizing stable guys with good incomes over attractive bad boys with no money. That's not guaranteed, though. It's just a rule of thumb. Looking at your post history, it doesn't seem to match what you've experienced. https://therationalmale.com/2012/12/19/the-epiphany-phase/amp/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Why do men accuse beautiful women gold diggers?Yeah, but I think those marriages are prone to falling apart after the woman reaches the epiphany phase in her 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 03:44 AM |
| 2 | Intelligence and PromiscuitySapiosexual is a known sexual orientation. Also, more intelligent people are going to be able to learn the skills needed to get their needs met in a social group. Communication skills, reading body language, spotting receptive partners, reading non verbal cues, etc. Having said that, in my limited experience, women who are educated feminists are generally the most uninhibited in private. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 12:40 AM |
| 5 | Are We Trading Monogamy for Misery? How Feminism’s Sexual Freedom Is Failing UsIt's something both Islam and Christianity can agree on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 12:24 AM |
| 6 | Are We Trading Monogamy for Misery? How Feminism’s Sexual Freedom Is Failing UsClaiming consensual kink and BDSM leads to sexual abuse is like saying that playing violent video games leads to school shootings. Kink can actually be healing for people who have experienced abuse because it lets them recreate the abuse in a safe, controlled fashion as a form of exposure therapy. Also, I don't think most people believe in free love. Women still have standards, and their standards are higher than mens. From what I know of it, if a woman has a one-night stand, it's usually becaus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 12:12 AM |
| 3 | Women saying that men would be more attractive if they were more confident is a double-bind.As a man I've run into the same issue with some women. Some women will stand by you if you lose your job, some will lose interest in you the second you do. Same thing with physical injuries. I really don't know how to separate out the good ones from the bad ones. There are men who would stand by a woman when she is having hard times, but I have no idea how someone would vet for those kinds of traits ahead of time. It fundamentally comes down to SMV vs RMV I guess. How does someone find a partner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 06:23 PM |
| 5 | Women saying that men would be more attractive if they were more confident is a double-bind.I didn’t mention vulnerability, Vulnerability is a necessary component to emotional connection and authenticity. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/on-second-thought/202312/building-authentic-connections-embracing-vulnerability# Women are aware that men expect them to serve a maternal role and the soft place to fall all the time. But women can only take so much trauma dumping and untreated depression before the roles change from lover/partner to nurse/mother. Adults, and that means women, t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 05:43 PM |
| 4 | Women saying that men would be more attractive if they were more confident is a double-bind.It feels like what you're saying at root is "Strong independent women like me demand a higher quality of man than lower quality women demand." If that's your perspective, then feel free to have it. But I don't understand why you feel men who notice and comment on this are wrong or just insecure. Also, there are issues with women's standards rising to unrealistic levels (for various reasons) that the only men who can match those standards are men with so many options they have no incentive to set… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 05:20 PM |
| 6 | Women saying that men would be more attractive if they were more confident is a double-bind.If you plan to date independent women, relax and display your natural emotional state and enthusiasm for the people and the activities you love and appreciate. As other men have said, this hasn't been our experience to a large degree. Women say they want you to show vulnerability and authenticity. But if your authenticity and vulnerability does not fall within a narrow range of behaviors she finds sexuality attractive, or at the very least socially acceptable, she will lose interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 05:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: When dating, do you find success with being the "consummate gentleman"?Shit, I've been doing it all wrong. I've been taking her jacket when I'm cold, and I've been excusing myself when she stands up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 12:29 AM |
| 3 | Q4M: When dating, do you find success with being the "consummate gentleman"?Shit, I've been doing it all wrong. I've been taking her jacket when I'm cold, and I've been excusing myself when she stands up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 12:28 AM |
| 1 | Is having an income greater than minimum wage a prerequisite to dating past age 22? Or even past age 23?This is a huge issue in China. Women won't date a man unless he owns a home or condo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 04:42 PM |
| 2 | Is the redpill about generating wealth to be attractive, or is this a misreading?I think it depends on what kind of woman you're after. A woman in her 20s probably cares more about looks, a woman in her 30s or 40s probably cares more about income and wealth. Red pill is more about the sexy son hypothesis, which states that females will mate with physically attractive males even if they receive no investment from those males. Then when a woman's fertility drops in her 30s, she starts to prefer men for long term mating strategies. Men with good personalities, good jobs, good i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 03:58 AM |
| – | Women who are thirty plus have a good amount of fertility left and if no man wants to start a family with them, they should have kids by themselvesMedian age for giving birth is 30 now https://www.nbcnews.com/news/motherhood-deferred-us-median-age-giving-birth-hits-30-rcna27827 Over the past three decades, that has become increasingly common in the U.S., as birthrates have declined for women in their 20s and jumped for women in their late 30s and early 40s, according to a new report from the U.S. Census Bureau. The trend has pushed the median age of U.S. women giving birth from 27 to 30, the highest on record. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 02:13 AM |
| – | Women who are thirty plus have a good amount of fertility left and if no man wants to start a family with them, they should have kids by themselvesMen will still find you desirable in your 30s, it just won't be neearly as intense as it was in your teens and 20s. Also one thing you have to understand is that our technology has changed dramatically in the last few hundred years, but our brains have not. Our brains have evolved in hunter gatherer societies. In those societies few people lived beyond the age of 40, and you needed to have 4-8 kids just to have 2 survive to adulthood. Because of that men are attracted to girls in their late teen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 01:26 AM |
| 6 | Men are affected by the wall 10x worse than womenMen are born invisible unless you inherited good genetics (good looks) or inherited capital (money, fame, status, power) from your parents. Or unless you built these things up yourself as adults. Women lose fertility with age. Will a 50 year old woman get attention? Yes, but not nearly as much as a 19 year old. https://images.app.goo.gl/e49r54u1sDsgcjcZ9 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 12:11 AM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenBut none of this addresses the fact that if we didn't teach and expect men to be as entitled and objectifying as we do, there'd be no problems. I think our culture is born out of biology. Men evolved to compete with each other to gain sexual access to women, making men more biologically prone to anti-social personality traits than women. This is also why men are taller and more muscular than women too. Its not cultural conditioning behind the fact that in the vast vast majority of cultures and c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 06:16 PM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenIt's in the OP. Very first sentence. You're free to read it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 03:51 PM |
| 0 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenTo me, it adds another line of evidence to the concept that women are more pro-social than men for both biological and sociological reasons. Neuroscience scans of womens brains show differences in areas associated with empathy. Men are taller and more muscular. Testosterone causes aggression as a side effect. Child abuse and child neglect cause different mental illnesses to develop in adulthood. Men are more likely to develop sociopathy or narcissism. Women are more likely to develop borderline … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenhttps://www.standffov.org/tdvam/abuse-in-lesbian-relationships/# 61% of bisexual women and 44% of lesbian women surveyed in 2013 reported some type of intimate partner violence (IPV) compared to 35% of straight women. Intimate partner violence includes emotional/verbal abuse, physical abuse, stalking, sexual assault, and more. https://dcvlp.org/domestic-violence-peaks-more-than-ever-for-the-lgbtqia-community/ Around 44% of lesbian and 61% of bisexual women have experienced forms of rape an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 09:02 PM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenLesbian relationships are way more violent than straight relationships, and there is no man to blame. Yup, agreed. Lesbians have the highest rate of divorce and the highest rate of domestic violence. Heterosexual relationships are in the middle Gay male relationships are at the bottom for domestic violence and divorce. That is my understanding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenRecycling as much as possible and donating used items rather than throwing them out. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/05/real-men-dont-recycle-how-sexist-stereotypes-are-killing-the-planet#:~:text=Simply%20put%2C%20the%20research%20confirms,just%20seem%20to%20care%20less. Simply put, the research confirms that women recycle more, are more likely to support environmental regulations, know more about the scientific aspects of climate change and are more likely to express concern ab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenThats understandable. When she started laughing uncontrollably due to the size of your penis you probably ran out of the house crying and didn't bother to take your wallet with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenIf gay people weren't getting married, I'd still be with my wife. Angrily takes another beer out of the fridge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 07:02 PM |
| 0 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenBesides the obvious questions of self-reporting and memory/perception with the research, you're comparing ASPD/NPD with becoming a therapist? I'm not the best with stats but that doesn't seem logical to me, one being a disorder and the other being an occupation that takes some time and effort to qualify for. The point is that, on average if a child experiences a traumatic childhood the following is more likely to happen. If they are female, they are more likely to pursue a career where they can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenI've had people get mad when I say too much charisma is a red flag. People don't get it. If someone is trying too hard to charm you its because they want something from you. Chances are that something they want from you is not for your benefit, but for theirs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:38 PM |
| 0 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenTrue, but this is probably more due to women fearing being physically and sexually assaulted by a stranger. Who is more likely to donate money to a charity that can help you? Women Who is more likely to commit a violent crime that can harm you? Men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:37 PM |
| 12 | The misandry some women believe protects them actually makes them easier targets.I'm not a woman but here is my interpretation. For your first point, I think women can probably tell within a few hours (sometimes minutes) of conversation if a guy is a danger to them. You mentioned how guys can hide their red flags and show off green flags, but a lot of guys don't have the emotional intelligence or social intelligence to do this. As a result they really can't hide their red flags that can be picked up on early in the relationship. Lots of guys don't have the emotional or socia… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 02:10 AM |
| 2 | The misandry some women believe protects them actually makes them easier targets.I don't know how true it is, but I once read a study saying 40% of cold approaches are done my men who are sociopaths or narcissists. Meanwhile men who are either sociopaths or narcissists only make up about 5-10% of the overall male population. I'm guessing people high in Machiavellianism might have a higher approach rate too, giving dark triad men the majority of cold approaches at this point. The men who aren't dark triad are probably PUA interested in using women for sexual validation to fil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 01:59 AM |
| 2 | "Pickmes never prosper" has a pointThose traits can be highly attractive in kink. Thats not a universal judgment | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 10:20 PM |
| 8 | Virgin women are not as desirable as social media makes it seemI believe studies have found that black women have a harder time on dating apps than any other race of women. As far as being a virgin, I think part of it is that men who want to have sex with you figure you will never agree to have sex with them, so for the men whose intention is sex they lose interest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 02:46 AM |
| 1 | Redpillers are extremely childishThe theory of evolution is largely false. I quit reading anything you said after this. You lost all credibility in 7 words. Nice job. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/24 10:11 PM |
| -5 | Redpillers are extremely childishIt's a new field that goes against ingrained belief systems that people depend on for emotional safety. Naturally, it's controversial, and people like yourself engage in defense mechanisms such as aggression, contempt, and logical fallacies to undermine it to maintain the integrity of the belief frameworks you are emotionally dependent on for safety and predictability. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts# https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoskepticism https://thedecisionlab.co… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/24 08:47 PM |
| -4 | Redpillers are extremely childishhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10113342/#:~:text=Indeed%2C%20claiming%20that%20all%20of%20evolutionary%20psychology,that%20the%20faults%20of%20EP%20necessarily%20undermine Why are there so many controversies in evolutionary psychology? Using a couple of concepts from philosophy of science, this paper argues that evolutionary psychology has not reached the stage of mature, normal science, since it does not currently have a unifying research program that guides individual scientists … | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/24 08:40 PM |
| -12 | Redpillers are extremely childishThats nice. I'll let people who have worked in academia for 40 years know that you understand their field better than they do. Thank you for proving my point without intending to. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/24 08:17 PM |
| -7 | Redpillers are extremely childishA lot of people are extremely childish. If you discuss evolutionary psychology as it relates to mating, information that was written by world leading academics in the field, ex-redpillers will get upset, engage in logical fallacies, and put their fingers in their ears and say 'lalalalalala' while they downvote you Childish is not something that only people you oppose do. Its widespread. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mating_strategies# https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Desire-Strategies-… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/24 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenI see your therapy and I pull the reverse uno card. Alcoholism, plus redirecting our anger and frustration about our failed relationships at a more socially acceptable target. Angrily hating gay people for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 03:46 PM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenWomen being pro social goes far beyond working for charities. I also think there tends to a fairly dark side to womens greater level of empathy at the group level, primarily they show greater out preference empathy/sympathy at the cost of existing group health or "nice" policies over "necessary" ones, although this is obviously tied to political interpretation. Can you elaborate? Do you mean, for example, welcoming refugees from Africa and the middle East because you feel sorry for them, only fo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 07:26 AM |
| 0 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenFor short-term mating, yes. Not for long-term mating | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 05:16 AM |
| -1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenTrue, yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 03:53 AM |
| 6 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenThat's understandable. The fact that you react to this fact by trying to find safe ways to exist in the world rather than aggressively attacking the outside world and building a cocoon of denial like some men in this thread are doing is a very good sign. Hopefully, you will find supportive social networks that accept your idiosyncraties rather than being hurt or angered by them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenI agree that men are more willing to mindlessly follow the direction of sociopathic politicians who declare war for selfish reasons. Men will do this, put their lives and health at risk, and call it heroism when they die over corporate profits, ideologies, and empires. Fundamentally, it ties into the fact that sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive, so men have to 'earn' sexual access. Having said that, women are more likely to join cults. https://www.damemagazine.com/2021/07/19/are-women-more-su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenI think I speak for all men when I say we've decided to collectively hold our breath until we pass out as a form of nonviolent resistance to women expecting us to learn better communication skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenMy mistake, I forgot to link a study https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245#:~:text=This%20study%20tasked%20women%20to,women's%20interest%20in%20dark%20personalities. In conclusion, the results of our study demonstrate that the Dark Triad male personality is attractive to women and this effect is not mediated by these men’s greater perceived Extraversion or Neuroticism. Further work in the sexual marketplace could usefully pursue interactions (statistical and soc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 12:33 AM |
| 5 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenWell, first off, when doing a study, a sample size of 1000 is considered quite good. https://tools4dev.org/resources/how-to-choose-a-sample-size/ You're claiming a sample size of 400 million is too small, though https://english.ckgsb.edu.cn/new/chinese-women-42-more-engaged-in-philanthropy-than-men/ A new survey out this week to coincide with International Women’s Day says Chinese women are considerably more likely than their male counterparts to donate to philanthropic projects. Chinese news ap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 12:26 AM |
| 3 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenAlso, this is simply false. Women consistently show a higher ability to recognize emotions but then again, so do functional sociopaths (who have to learn this in order to blend in). Point being that recognizing emotions isn't ipso facto evidence of being more empathetic. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5110041/ 5.2.7. Structural MRI A handful of studies have reported empathy-related gender differences in brain structures (Cheng et al., 2009). Females have larger grey matter volume… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenI'm sorry science, psychology and sociology are too confusing for you to engage in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhmtXpWsAdU | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 12:04 AM |
| 4 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenThe lack of emotional maturity comes more from the way men are raised rather than evolution. I don't know. I mean to me that is like saying the fact that men are 4" taller and carry 30 pounds more muscle than women is due to culture, not evolution. Culture is likely just an expression of and extension of biology. Culture can be changed, but only so far. Culture probably can't change the fact that when a child is abused, if it is male it is more likely to grow up to develop antisocial disorders l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 11:47 PM |
| 0 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenthe majority of those differences being carried by men's higher rates of ASD and sociopathy (which tends to be acquired via having particularly rough & usually fatherless childhoods). Roughly 1-2% of women and 4-6% of men have ASPD Roughly 5% of women and 8% of men have NPD Both conditions are due to trauma and genetics, but women suffer from these anti-social conditions more than men do. If childhood trauma is the reason, why do men suffer from ASPD at 3x the rate of women? If you take a norm… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 11:43 PM |
| 5 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenNot for short-term mating. For long-term mating, it will cause issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Can men achieve enough pro-social tendencies to satisfy modern womenFor short term mating, women prefer anti-social men. For long term mating, women prefer pro-social men. That can be interpreted as AF/BB to some women, yes. But some women skip the AF part and just go straight to a man who has a good personality and good income and skip the whole 'Chads genes and Billy Betas income' strategy that some women play out. But overall men are less pro-social than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 11:17 PM |
| 3 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?Shit, maybe it is. I've heard it was 6 figure income, 6 feet tall. But for the third 6 I've heard either 6 pack or 6 inch dick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 10:33 PM |
| 0 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?I mean how stupid would a woman have to be to blame men for the fact she can't "adjust her standards" if she's a free woman? Truly delusional On one hand, women prefer dysfunctional men for short-term mating. https://www.xonecole.com/women-and-nice-guys/ https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513816300010#:~:text=Although%20socially%20aversive%2C%20there%20are,et%20al.%2C%202015). First, female preference for the Dark Triad traits in men could be driven by female choice for p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 10:19 PM |
| 1 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?Did his dick grow because it got caught in the taffy pulling machine at work? https://youtu.be/Ftqf5v2omUY?si=mdXEkFUjFHteo6xR | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:50 PM |
| -2 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/only-15-women-interest-58-men-dating-apps-according-survey A survey from Bumble found that 60% of women indicate that they are looking for a man over 6 feet tall in their search filters. However, that number drops steeply as the height of men lowers. 30% of women want to date men who are 5'11" and only 15% of women are willing to date men who are 5'8" or shorter. In fact, more women are willing to date extreme heights such as 7 feet tall rather than a man who is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:45 PM |
| 2 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?It's controversial, but here is one interpretation. Women want a high-quality man, but there aren't enough high-quality men to go around The % of men who are tall, fit, handsome, educated, well off, and with good jobs and good personalities is far smaller than the % of women who want monogamous relationships with them. Many women adjust their standards to be more realistic to reflect this fact. Just as many men adjust their standards to fit reality, too. But some men and women never adjust their… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:43 PM |
| 15 | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?Every woman secretly wants to be financially dependent on a sociopath/narcissist who cheats on them and abandons them and their children! /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Low self-esteem and low confidence are good things, and a lot more people should have them.Narcissists don't have genuine self-esteem. Genuine self-esteem means you generally aren't influenced by criticism or rejection by others. Narcissists' entire self-worth comes from the approval of others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 02:35 AM |
| 2 | Low self-esteem and low confidence are good things, and a lot more people should have them.OP bases his entire self worth on things he doesn't have, is totally miserable, and now demands everyone else be just as miserable as him. Fuck that. I'll enjoy the projection based tirades of OP the same way I enjoy watching the secretly gay preacher angrily rant against homosexuality. but I won't take life advice from either of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 02:31 AM |
| 1 | Low self-esteem and low confidence are good things, and a lot more people should have them.The vast vast majority of people aren't exceptional. Might as well enjoy your time here on earth rather than be miserable you aren't in the top 0.1% Also, I'm going to guess you're not in the top 0.1% either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 02:27 AM |
| 3 | Double standard re. Male vs female insecuritiesThats true. Gender equality can either be equally oppressive or equally freeing. Under true gender equality there would be women who were dominant, ambitious and powerful and anyone who made fun of them for being lesbians would be criticized. By the same token there would be men who would be passive, weak, who played video games all day and who were easily intimidated, and the people who made fun of them for not manning up would also be criticized.. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 12:20 AM |
| 15 | Double standard re. Male vs female insecuritiesI can't disagree with OP. It's called benevolent sexism and toxic masculinity. https://study.com/academy/lesson/ambivalent-sexism-definition-inventory.html https://www.aurorand.org.uk/news/top-10-toxic-masculinity-behaviours It's just that some women in the modern era selectively pick and choose which aspects of benevolent sexism and which aspects of toxic masculinity they like, which ones they dont like and want to discard, then demand men conform to those hand picked gender roles using a mix o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 11:58 PM |
| 7 | Double standard re. Male vs female insecuritiesMen are disposable, women are perishable. Eggs are expensive, sperm is cheap. It explains a lot about gender relations when you actually understand these concepts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 11:53 PM |
| 3 | Attending a rap concert was a humbling experience as an average guy.When I tried to discuss how women throw themselves at famous musicians, I was told I was wrong because I 'wasn't a woman' | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 07:27 PM |
| -1 | Calling men who you disagree with "Weird" is A Toxic FemininityBe that as it may, are the fascists in the room with us now? There are about 30 million Republicans who identify as Trump's base and are MAGA. So yeah, probably. https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-01-04/three-quarters-of-republicans-sympathize-with-jan-6-rioters-poll https://fox59.com/news/national-world/74-percent-of-republicans-say-its-fine-for-trump-to-be-dictator-for-a-day/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/02/majority-of-republicans-believe-the-qanon-conspiracy-… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 12:27 PM |
| 5 | Calling men who you disagree with "Weird" is A Toxic FemininityIts because fascists depend on other people accepting their frame of reference. Fighting against fascists by doing protests, or debates, or antifa is one thing. But when you do that, you still tacitly accept the validity of the underlying cognitive frame of fascists. But when you call them weird, or odd, or strange, or kooky, or bizarre, you are rejecting the underlying cognitive framework of white christian fascism as invalid. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/hovercraft-full-eels/202… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 01:39 AM |
| 12 | Calling men who you disagree with "Weird" is A Toxic FemininityThe only common ground I see is that entitled men who subscribe to both fascism and misogyny feel that nobody should be allowed to criticize them, but they can freely criticize everyone else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 01:37 AM |
| 15 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meI'm wondering if the incel movement largely has nothing to do with looks, but just has to do with personality in the form of toxic personality traits and mental illness. Despite incels constantly saying women only want a guy who looks like chad (which when you consider the fact that 85% of women have been married by their 40s doesn't make sense), I wouldn't be surprised if most incels are incels due to poor social skills, toxic personality traits or mental illness and not due to their looks. htt… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/24 01:04 AM |
| -1 | Calling men who you disagree with "Weird" is A Toxic FemininityWhatever it takes to bring down fascism is fine with me. Fascists are just terrified, easily frightened, extremely vulnerable, emotionally immature people who stopped growing emotionally as human beings as children, never learned adult coping skills to regulate emotions, and who as a result are utterly terrified by multiculturalism and feminism. As a result of this immense terror of being overrun by out-groups, and failure to develop the emotional maturity necessary to regulate emotions properly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 12:23 AM |
| 6 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling mehttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/14/incels-more-likely-to-be-autistic-involuntary-celibate/ Incels, which is a shortening of the term “involuntarily celibate”, are generally childless men in their 20s who are hostile to women. They were found to be up to 30 times more likely to be autistic than the general population, according to the study published by the Commission for Countering Extremism (CCE), which advises ministers. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/24 12:02 AM |
| 9 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meThis sub is filled with such low quality posters and comments. You've just proven that again. OP seems like a decent person trying to make a coherent argument about the role of looks in attraction, and he gets a bunch of knee jerk rude reactions from 'smart' people. Is believing in misogyny wrong, yes. But accepting reality and admitting that looks matter is just a symptom of having the courage to live in the real world. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/24 11:55 PM |
| 6 | Watching how dating works for my friends has been black pilling meSadly, thats just the reality of life. By comparison there are a lot of old, ugly women with great personalities who can't get anyone to date them either. Humans mate, at root, because we want to create high quality offspring for the next generation. Sexual reproduction first evolved 1.2 to 2 billion years ago. Meanwhile, mating pair bonds among human ancestors only evolved ~6 million years ago. Attractive men with high levels of capital (social capital, economic capital, human capital, etc) do … | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/24 11:41 PM |
| -2 | Why are women so picky compared to men?EDIT: Sorry that was rude of me. https://www.amazon.com/Evolutionary-Psychology-New-Science-Mind/dp/1138088617/ For anyone curious about the evolutionary psychology of mating, just read chapters 4-6 of that college textbook written by a professor of evolutionary psychology. This book by the same author is good too. https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Desire-Strategies-Human-Mating/dp/0465097766/ | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/24 05:53 PM |
| -9 | Why are women so picky compared to men?I could explain it to you, but the answer is based on evolutionary psychology, and people in this subreddit hate evolutionary psychology. https://www.amazon.com/Evolutionary-Psychology-New-Science-Mind/dp/1138088617/ For anyone curious about the evolutionary psychology of mating, just read chapters 4-6 of that college textbook written by a professor of evolutionary psychology. This book by the same author is good too. https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Desire-Strategies-Human-Mating/dp/0465097766/ | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/24 04:21 PM |
| 2 | Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment?I agree that if a man wants sex he should either go to a sex worker or a slutty woman. But for some men, the sense of victory of winning over a chaste woman gives them an ego boost. Its no different how a lot of women will ignore nice guys, but they will put a lot of effort into converting a bad boy into a nice guy. Men will ignore sex workers and slutty women to try to convert a chaste woman into a slut. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Why women don't have sex on day oneSigh. The US is feminist. Afghanistan and Yemen are not. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Inequality_Index#/media/File%3AGender_Inequality_Index_2019.svg | /r/ExRedPill | 01/08/24 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Why women don't have sex on day one> I have spent years trying to recover from the damage his teachings have caused and you seem to be of the same belief as him. Its a complex topic with gray areas. Are 100% of men remorseless predators of women? No. Are 100% of men selfless protectors and guardians of women? Also no. men are individuals. But that doesn't change the fact that as primates, we have a lot of destructive urges we have to control to function in a humane society. What if everyone who wanted to murder their boss at … | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 04:51 PM |
| 1 | Why women don't have sex on day onehttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/a-third-of-male-university-students-say-they-would-rape-a-woman-if-there-no-were-no-consequences-9978052.html Roughly one third of male university students who took part in a study would rape a woman if there were no consequences, according to a new scientific study. The research, published in the scientific journal Violence and Gender, presented mostly white male American participants a questionnaire on how they would act in certain sexual situa… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 04:24 PM |
| 0 | Why women don't have sex on day oneNot 100% of men. But the impulse is there for a lot of men. Keep in mind that domestic violence, spousal rape, sexual harassment, etc, are still pretty much legal and carry no legal or social penalties in a lot of places in the world. These things were perfectly legal almost everywhere until the last century or so. That's why we need legal and social sanctions against men to protect women. Men need to face prison time, fines, job loss, divorce,shame, criminal records, etc if they mistreat women.… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 04:06 PM |
| 1 | Why women don't have sex on day oneI think you are not listening to the perspective of women here, and you’re just believing shit you hear from other men. From my perspective, it feels like you are taking your own individual experience and saying you speak for all women. Im saying your personal experiences are valid. You may even speak for the vast majority of women. But a lot of women do not line up with what you say, and you do not speak for all women. https://people.com/celebrity/celebrity-sex-partners-mick-jagger-lamar-odom-s… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 05:15 AM |
| 1 | Why women don't have sex on day oneSome women are willing to put aside the need to feel safe or valued as an individual if the guy is attractive enough or famous enough. Im not sure what % of women this would describe, but they exist. Celebrities don't have body counts in the thousands because they made thousands of women feel safe, valued, and respected. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Why women don't have sex on day oneThe fact that sperm cells are cheap and egg cells are expensive explains a lot about human behavior regarding gender relations. Our desire to be territorial so we don't have to compete for food probably explains nationalism. Male mating behavior dynamics explains why men are much more antisocial on average. It's also supposedly why men are taller and stronger than women because we had to compete with each other for access to women. Im probably being downvoted because people associate evolutionar… | /r/ExRedPill | 31/07/24 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Why ban incels?In my experience even when you discuss points made my experts in evolutionary psychology like David Buss, people still just get angry at you rather than discussing the point. > Discussions of IQ don't make reasonable people uncomfortable. This has not been my experience. > It is the Dunning-Kruger effect projected by the people that make nonsensical claims about IQ that makes reasonable people uncomfortable. My interpretation of what you are saying is that 'science that makes me feel uncom… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 11:16 PM |
| -2 | Why ban incels?At the same time, writing off an entire field of science because the existence of that field makes you uncomfortable is even more unscientific than imperfect people using imperfect science to discuss a complex, controversial, emotional issue. People do this with IQ. Discussions of IQ make people uncomfortable so the 'rational' people pretend IQ doesn't even exist so they can avoid the conversation. Thats the opposite of science. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 10:59 PM |
| -2 | Why ban incels?When I can, I like to post scientific studies backing up the claims. But yes, to a degree evolutionary psychology is used to justify toxic behaviors. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 10:46 PM |
| -2 | Why ban incels?I don't know. I'm purple pill but I believe in evolutionary psychology. Thats not popular here either, but I haven't been banned for it luckily. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 10:42 PM |
| 1 | Why women don't have sex on day oneIMO, it fundamentally comes down to the fact that women risk more by having sex. They put their health at risk more. They become more vulnerable when pregnant. Also, women can only have at most 10-20 kids over a lifetime, while a man can have 60,000+ So yes, women need to feel safe and valued as individuals (unless the guy is rich and famous, or a good-looking bad boy) before having sex. But that desire for safety is just an extension of the basic evolutionary psychology fact that sperm is cheap… | /r/ExRedPill | 30/07/24 02:38 PM |
| – | It is chiefly through the patriarchy that men keep other men in checkIf you take away law and order, we will all be in danger. Do you really think if law and order breaks down that people like you will be roaming the streets assaulting women freely? What will really happen is groups of men who are both individually and collectively stronger than you will be breaking into your home, assaulting you, and stealing your stuff. I can assure you that people like you will not be on the top of the pyramid in a post law and order society. Also, men are the biggest danger t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 12:57 AM |
| – | Hypergamy is just another form of greedBeing in the top 5-10% of men regarding socioeconomic status doesn't achieve much anymore, but the top 5-10% in looks do amazing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 01:30 AM |
| 15 | Men's romantic success depends on their ability to succeed at patriarchy and capitalismMoronic statement. Most women don't care about status, "being tall" or a man's power. Fame is a form of social status. There are a lot of famous actors and musicians with body counts of 1000+ who would disagree with your claim that women dont care about status. Also, you said women dont care if a man is tall, then admitted they want a man taller than them. Also, in developing countries where poverty is worse, powerful men have gigantic body counts. Maybe it's not as high in rich countries like t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 12:35 PM |
| 3 | As a woman, what signs should I look out for in a man that might indicate whether or he is a misogynist?Also you probably got downvoted because you were trying to use MLK Jr to push your ideas on guns, not the other way around. Yeah probably. I'm a leftist who loves guns. We need them to fight fascism. having said that, MLK jr did apply for a permit to carry a gun, he had a gun next to him on one of his buses, and his home was described as an arsenal by a civil rights activist. These are all facts. However his attitude seems to have changed on the issue as he got older. We've hidden all that just … | /r/ExRedPill | 22/07/24 05:47 AM |
| 6 | As a woman, what signs should I look out for in a man that might indicate whether or he is a misogynist?In another subreddit I got downvoted by the left for pointing out the fact that MLK jr and a lot in the civil rights movement were pro gun as a form of self defense. They didn't want to believe it and they got pissed about it. Then I showed them an article where MLK jr applied for a gun carry permit and someone described his house as an arsenal, and they didn't want to believe it. So its not just the right, its the left who have also whitewashed MLK jr. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/07/24 05:13 AM |
| 5 | As a woman, what signs should I look out for in a man that might indicate whether or he is a misogynist?Talks about how feminism was fine until the 3rd wave That seems to be a common theme among bigots, that the last civil rights movement was good but this one is going too far. Its like how conservatives felt that MLK jr was fine, but BLM was going too far. I'm sure in the time of MLK jr, bigoted people felt that abolishing slavery was fine, but MLK jr was going too far. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/07/24 04:42 AM |
| 7 | As a woman, what signs should I look out for in a man that might indicate whether or he is a misogynist?There's a difference between conservative/moderate republican vs. the overly enthusiastic, hardcore Trump MAGA types. Mitt Romney, John McCain, John kasich, etc voters are fine. Donald Trump admirers who openly praise him and can't talk about him without getting angry about how badly they think he is being treated are not fine. They are walking red flags. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/07/24 12:04 AM |
| 18 | As a woman, what signs should I look out for in a man that might indicate whether or he is a misogynist?Selfish Arrogant combative Vindictive incapable of admitting he's wrong Dismissive of the concerns of others Your friends and family don't like him Verbally critical invalidating MAGA Sexual right off the bat thinks feminism is evil Doesn't believe in therapy hates powerful women (bosses, politicians) bad mouths your friends and family homophobia celebrates promiscuity in men but hates it in women Bullies animals, waiters, children, subordinates at work, or basically anyone he has power over His… | /r/ExRedPill | 21/07/24 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't biologically determined to be providersDue to evolution, this isn't the case. For one thing, sperm cells are cheaper than egg cells. Because of that, men have always culturally been the ones to do dangerous jobs because the deaths of 10 men affected the survival of the gene pool less than the death of 1 woman. Historically, most jobs outside of the home (like hunting large animals) have been dangerous. This created a biological underpinning of our cultural framework where men worked and women stayed home. Also, humans supposedly evol… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/24 04:32 AM |
| 3 | Is Chad generally blue pilled?The people who learn about pills are people who struggle on the market. That would not describe chad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 01:05 AM |
| 4 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?So I know that was a gotcha comment, but the issue really is nuanced. For example if I see a man who is 6'6, muscular, 300 pounds, with a shaved head, a goatee, covered in tattoos and face tattoos, wearing a bikers jacket and carrying a pistol (open carry is legal in my state) on his hip I'm going to feel unsafe. If he is surrounded by 5 other men who look the same I'm going to feel even more unsafe. Meanwhile if I see a 5'1 middle aged white woman wearing expensive clothes walking with a 2 year… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 06:30 PM |
| 6 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?"Would you rather be alone with a black person or a bear?" "The bear of course. black people are violent animals. And if you're a black person who doesn't like me picking the bear, you're the reason why I picked the bear." Yeah, I can see the nuance and hypocrisy in that statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 04:50 PM |
| 8 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?Though being cautious around strangers isn't the same as assuming that stranger is a predator. But theres nuance, its not just strangers, its a particular type of stranger. A strange man who is with a woman, or especially a strange man who is with a woman and children is seen as far less threatening than a man who is alone or a man who is with a group of men. A lone man is far more threatening than a lone woman or a lone child. A young man with a shaved head and covered in face tattoos is far mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 04:48 PM |
| 15 | Is acting as if all men are predators sexist or not?I'm a man, I really don't mind it when strange women are wary of me. Something like 99% of all sex crimes are committed by men. When I'm around a strange woman (like if I'm walking alone at night and one is walking in front of me) I will try to give her space by doing something like stopping and playing on my phone for a minute to create distance between me and her so she feels more secure. Having said that, I can see the nuance. For example, young black men (teens and early 20s) make up maybe 1… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 04:46 PM |
| 6 | Is using economic allegories to human relationships inherently dehumanizing?No, because it is a marketplace. We are all trying to get the best deal in our efforts to fulfill our evolutionary programming of successfully passing on our genetic material based on unconscious calculations of a wide range of factors. Having said that, meaningful emotional bonds also form and exist in romantic relationships. Just as meaningful emotional bonds form in all other types of non sexual relationships. Humans evolved to pass on our genetic material, but we also evolved to be a social,… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 02:48 AM |
| 2 | Q4W Do women fantasize about saving someone?In my experience, those kinds of friends take and take, and then they disappear if you ever express needs or problems of your own | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 08:49 PM |
| 3 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingYou're going to find few to no women looking for a casual hookup unless your bf is in the most attractive 5% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 08:47 PM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menThe issue is the articles I posted look at various times in history. The period before humans left Africa, 70,000 years ago, 45,000 years ago, 8,000 years ago, and 4,000 years ago, all five time periods showed an imbalance in gender ratios for breeding. Also, your claims are just unsubstantiated opinions as far as I can tell. You claim everyone bred, but you have no genetic evidence to back that up. You are right that humans self domesticated by collectively murdering antisocial alpha males. But… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 04:20 PM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menEvolution by natural selection is an amoral, short-sighted force. Natural selection invented nervous systems capable of pain and suffering, but natural selection also invented a fragile, highly dangerous, highly competitive world where pain and suffering are inevitable. That's why I can't stand it when people say evolution by natural selection is amazing. No, it's not. It's dumb, slow, and cruel. Science is amazing. Human intelligence is amazing (and was created by natural selection, I'll give i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 04:05 PM |
| – | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menIn pre historical times, only 1 man mated for every 2-4 women mating based on genetic studies. During hard times, the ratio of women mating to men was 17:1. So we've evolved in a system where women generally end up sharing top men in poly or serial monogamy relationships. The problem is that in modern times, women still want top-tier men, but they also want lifelong monogamy. The math doesn't work because 80% of women want monogamy with the best 5-20% of men. Hence, women get pumped and dumped a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 02:56 PM |
| 0 | From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of genderI still dont know if always sunny invented that term or if it was in use before them. https://youtu.be/ObZtS-Vl7wQ?si=-bOyJ3X7MgUtmVA0 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:14 AM |
| 6 | From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of genderI disagree. I'm a straight man and I'm happy to talk about gay rights with people. I'm a white man but I'm happy to discuss the black lives matter movement. I make a good living in the US and I'm happy to talk about famine and poverty in Africa. IMO, if a guy has zero interest in discussing an issue that doesn't affect him personally (like a man who is totally disinterested in feminism because hes not a woman and wouldn't benefit from the discussion) then that is a red flag. That implies he only… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 12:01 AM |
| 1 | Sexually unsuccessful men are like scientistsSexually unsuccessful men generally fall into one or more of the following categories: Ugly men who refuse to lower their standards and date ugly women Men who have serious psychiatric problems and poor social skills (autism spectrum, etc) Men who never make an attempt to meet women. Having said that, I think incel men tend to base their views on women based on how the most shallow and dysfunctional ~25% of women act on online dating sites. Those women actually do lust after the top 5% of men an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 11:57 PM |
| 1 | From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of genderYeah but the same guys who claim they want an obedient submissive woman are going to start complaining about how they feel inundated that they have to take responsibility for all her minor decisions after the novelty wears off. A lot of men who want a 'submissive' woman still want that woman to work a full time job and perform all the household chores independently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 11:53 PM |
| 7 | From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of genderI agree, but I guess it depends on what you define as feminism. If you define feminism as trying to help women overcome the cultural barriers they have faced historically and live up to their full potential, I don't think most emotionally healthy men would repel from that at all. However if you define feminism as militant misandry and applying double standards (as an example, saying male on female domestic violence is always wrong, but female on male DV is ok or a minor issue at worst, or female… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 11:50 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesBy the same token, if a rich white man goes into the most dangerous part of the ghetto and leaves his luxury car parked there with the windows down and the keys inside, is that a good idea? Would it be in any way his responsibility if some of the desperately poor people leered and stared at his luxury car in the ghetto? Having said that, no one deserves to be robbed, assaulted, or harassed. People deserve to feel safe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:37 PM |
| 0 | Women on Reddit downplay men's contributions by choosing to focus on housework, and ignoring earnings.I knew a couple where the man worked 80 hours a week and the woman worked 40 hours a week. In the woman's mind it was 'fair' that the household chores be done 50/50. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/24 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Women pursue fantasy archetypes not actual men: break the fantasy, goodbye relationshipYes they do. I've both seen the studies, but I've also heard testimonials from various people who work in healthcare who have seen it up close. Men do this more than women But sadly some women do it too, and I've met them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 02:40 PM |
| 5 | Women pursue fantasy archetypes not actual men: break the fantasy, goodbye relationshipI've known women who made it clear to me that they'd abandon me the second I got seriously injured or developed a chronic illness. Theres a lot of shitty women out there. I'm not sure what % of them are shitty, maybe 25%. But theres a lot who are. A lot of good women are out there too, but generally the good ones end up in LTRs in their 20s and are taken off the market. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/24 05:29 AM |
| 11 | How do I leave the Black Pill?There are studies that show that after you get to know someone, the majority of your attraction or repulsion to them is based on non physical traits. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1090513804000066 | /r/ExRedPill | 27/06/24 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Society actually consistently underestimates how pervy and predatory male sexuality isThis is why we have negative reinforcement in the form of social shaming, job loss and legal consequences. Negative reinforcement does work to control destructive impulses. To catch a predator was so effective in discouraging men from contacting underage girls that for a while they said they were having trouble finding men online willing to interact with their underage decoys. FWIW when it comes to men and sex crimes my understanding is that it basically breaks down as the following. 1-2% of men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Do women prefer to share a high value man than to have a low value man?Red pill info is true, but it generally only applies to the most dysfunctional 20-25% of women. Women with low self-esteem, women with traumatic backgrounds, women with cluster B personality disorders, young and stupid women, etc. Generally, they act the way the red pill says women act. Women high in RMV, life experience, and emotional well-being tend to recoil from red pill tactics or behaviors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 04:34 PM |
| 0 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenI agree. A lot of men want a woman to work and be financially independent, but they also want the woman to do the majority of the childcare and homemaking duties while the men engage in recreation in their free time. A lot of men want a girl who is thin and sexy with a high libido, but who doesn't have a lot of sex partners. A lot of men want a woman who is dependent, submissive and demure, but who is also able to earn an independent living in the cutthroat world of corporate America so she can … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 02:23 AM |
| 5 | If you are not traditional, but you want traditional values, you are hypocrite. This goes for both Genders.This is true, but sadly a lot of women lose respect for a man if he shows weakness or asks for help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:56 PM |
| 3 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenYay! Loads up fortnite on the PS5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:12 PM |
| 7 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenDo you really believe those things are traditional let alone discarding those things is a bad thing? Do I believe those things are associated with traditional masculinity, albeit toxic masculinity? Yes. Do I think discarding them is a good thing? Yes. Just like I think discarding certain toxic traits of female gender roles is a good thing. Toxic female gender roles include things like: Being overly agreeable and unwilling to stand up for yourself Being denied access to higher education Being fin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 03:10 PM |
| 9 | If women hate the patriarchy, why do they make conforming to it a requirement for mates?As an ex redpiller myself there kind of is a pipeline. PUA --> TRP --> MGTOW and alt right politics A lot of men follow that pipeline and get more bitter, right wing and misogynistic with each step. I got out because as a liberal Democrat, the alt right politics and thinly veiled antisemitism of MGTOW woke me up to leave the pipeline. | /r/ExRedPill | 21/06/24 02:41 PM |
| 4 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenTrue. It reminds me of a joke I heard. Man: I want a woman who doesn't want me just for my money Woman: you don't have any money Man: but I will someday. I just want a housewife Woman: you don't have a house either | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 04:31 AM |
| 2 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenIt’s also incredibly stupid and insensitive to compare playing video games and choosing not to take care of your family or be a mature adult to a woman who is infertile or menopausal. One is chosen, the other is not. Nobody said anything about not taking care of family. But while we're on the subject, how do you feel about women who give their children up for adoption? Also what is your definition of a mature adult? Many people who subscribe to female gender roles feel a woman is not a mature ad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 02:12 AM |
| 4 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenPlaying video games all day isn’t productive for anyone. Do you know what is productive? A woman (outside of work) spending all her free time raising the kids, grocery shopping, cooking and cleaning. I disagree with your definition of productive. Some people want to constantly learn and grow. Some people want to smoke weed, drink alcohol and play video games. Yeah one is better than the other, but at the end of the day we're all pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 01:35 AM |
| 1 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenA better comparison would be a man breaking gender roles by being a great stay at home dad. And most women would not criticize him for that. Thats fair. But a lot of men can work full time jobs, perform family obligations, then spend all their free time playing video games. Some men can work jobs that pay $30,000 a year with a high school diploma while their wife earns $200,000 a year with a doctorate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 01:34 AM |
| 2 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenWhat is your population estimate for “a lot of women”? I have no idea. I would have no idea how to measure it. But the % of women who expect men to conform to male gender roles they like but expect men to reject male gender roles they don't like is probably 50% or higher. Who/what are men “expected to protect” women and children from? Other men. Oh, and bears What do you define as the characteristics of a “stable rock”? Emotionally healthy. Physically healthy. Has a stable job. Doesn't get overw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 01:24 AM |
| 4 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenPersonality defect - a trait that prevents a person from engaging in mentally healthy, autonomous, semi productive, pro-social behaviors Gender role - social pressure for men and women to engage in certain behaviors while discouraging them from behaving in other behaviors. There is some overlap between the two. Some of the male gender roles are productive (protecting your family), and some are destructive (misogyny). Some of the female gender roles are productive (being a good mother), and some … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 12:52 AM |
| 2 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenHow do you feel if the person works a full-time job and is financially independent, but spends all their time gaming or reading science books outside of family obligations? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 12:11 AM |
| 9 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenI get the impression your views are not based on gender constructs, but based on what you feel is productive vs. unproductive utilization of a persons free time, irregardless of gender. That's fine. I don't necessarily agree, but I can see your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 12:07 AM |
| 0 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenThey are gender roles for the reason you said. Men were expected to show them and women were expected not to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 12:01 AM |
| 0 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenAlso a men spending all his time gaming is a loser lol. A woman doing the same thing also would be. Especially if you have family obligations I agree if a man's video games take away from his family responsibilities, then that's a problem. But why do you say a man who spends all his time gaming is a loser? There are some people who think a woman who spends all her time reading science books is a loser. They think that she could better use her time cooking or taking care of children. Do you agree… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:30 PM |
| 5 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenWhat we want is a fully functional, well-rounded adult who contributes equally to the partnership. Yes, some women want this. And some women want a guy who makes more money than her even if they are already financially comfortable. And some women lose respect for a guy if she sees him cry. And some women think guys who play a lot of videos games are losers even if those men are financially independent and practice good self care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 11:04 PM |
| 3 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenThat's a valid concern. But it doesn't address women who already can afford a comfortable lifestyle on their own income but who still want men with equal or higher levels of education or income than the women themselves have. Nor does it address women who lose respect for men who show too many emotions. Also as a counterpoint, many people who believe in traditional female gender roles think a woman is not 'grown up' until she gets married and has children, even if she has an education, takes car… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 10:58 PM |
| 6 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenDudes not getting laid isn’t “oppression.” I never said it was. Women are free to do whatever they choose, and men are free to discuss women's behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 10:54 PM |
| 2 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenWhat's your definition of fully functional adult | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 10:42 PM |
| 8 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenWheres yo debate baby, where's yo debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/24 10:40 PM |
| -6 | If women hate the patriarchy, why do they make conforming to it a requirement for mates?This is a very valid concern. Before anyone starts I'm not saying all women are the same. But the info below applies to a lot of women. A lot of women, even if they won't admit it, want men to conform to (some) traditional gender roles while also supporting women's freedoms to abandon traditional gender roles. Women just want men to conform to the traditional gender roles that benefit women (stoic, willing to commit violence for her benefit, high income, tough, competitive, dominant fearless) an… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/24 07:17 PM |
| – | Why don't woman admit they like high status men?I disagree. Famous musicians can have thousands of sex partners despite being ugly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 06:00 AM |
| – | Why don't woman admit they like high status men?I think part of it is that women know they look bad when they admit to being attracted to money, status and fame. Just like us men know we look bad when we admit to being attracted to teenagers. So we all keep it on the down low and deny it. But part of it IMO is that women want contradictory things. Women want tall, handsome, athletic, rich, famous, powerful men. But women also want monogamous men who will invest in them emotionally and financially, and who will stick around to raise the kids. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 05:48 AM |
| 7 | "...Ma'am, this is an Arby's."Lol | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 01/04/24 04:32 PM |
| 9 | Exredpillers, what made you leave the cult?Them treating Trump like a genius. That and the anti semitism I saw on mgtow. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/02/24 01:19 AM |
| 1 | this might be an unpopular opinion but dating the top 20% of men are overrated. Just get you an average man and live an average lifestyle. Dating the top 20% of men is not what its cracked up to beOP sounds like she dated a top 1% guy and classified him as a top 20% guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/12/23 09:22 PM |
| 2 | Have you ever felt that by not having children you are non fulfilling your biological duty?Western European culture and its offshoots will be going extinct and the vaccuum will be filled by other cultures that manage to breed above replacement levels. I believe all cultures drop to replacement levels once they reach a global middle class standard of living. So if certain cultures are too dysfunctional to reach that level of wealth, then yeah they'll make up a larger and larger % of humanity in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Have you ever felt that by not having children you are non fulfilling your biological duty?Yes but evolution is an evil system and I'd rather not perpetuate it. Also my genes aren't that good anyway. I'm a believer in positive eugenics (as opposed to negative eugenics, which is discouraging 'undesirables' to breed). I think intelligent, pro-social, emotionally healthy people should be encouraged to breed with incentives. The world needs more intelligent, compassionate problem solvers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 02:11 AM |
| 1 | This is very anecdotal, but as a man, i miss the attention, do others also?Apparently Dan Conner is someone a lot of women developed a crush on though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/23 02:10 AM |
| 4 | Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childlessTrue. It would be nice if when robotics and AI result in mass unemployment if we shorten the workweek via jobsharing instead of having 50% unemployment rates. A 20-25/hr workweek for everyone when half the jobs disappear sounds nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/23 04:33 AM |
| 0 | Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childlessIt's due to economics and education too. Fertility drops dramatically and barely surpasses Replacement rated until per capital income hits 5k. By the time a nation is developed they're below Replace rates no matter how child friendly their system is | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 12:29 AM |
| 15 | Doctors warn US is barreling towards same fertility crisis as Japan - where one in 10 men in their 30s are VIRGINS and third of women will be childlessSubsidies for daycare, education. Free health care, time off post partum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/23 12:25 AM |
| 1 | What even makes a woman unattractive, really?Loss of status/resources makes a man unattractive, loss of fertility makes a woman unattractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/23 03:20 AM |
| 1 | The wall for women isn’t when they hit their 30’s, it’s when they hit motherhoodDisagree. The wall is about how a woman's fertility declines with age. It has nothing to do with whether she already has kids or not (although already having kids decreases attractiveness for different reasons) https://www.babycenter.ca/ims/2020/09/infertilitygraph-ER.png.pagespeed.ce.xMSr2-H7ej.png A woman can look good in her 40s or 50s, but she is still infertile. Since the whole reason we pair bond is to have children, people unconsciously pick up on the infertility and react accordingly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 05:32 PM |
| 6 | As a leftist man, I believe that men are better off not pursuing progressive/feminist/leftist women for long-term relationships.I call BS. Putin's Russia is a christian fascist state, and oligarchy that steals hundreds of billions from the working class and keeps them distracted with culture wars (similar to the GOP here at home). China is communist in name only, they're more capitalist than the US. I dont buy the 'as a leftist' diatribe. As an actual leftist, I will make a counterpoint. Leftist women are more likely to be college educated. College education is one of the best predictors of divorce or single motherhood. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/22 05:40 AM |
| 7 | "I'm single because there are not enough good guys for me" is just narcissism"Yes, I've got hundreds of matches but none of that counts because they're all beneath me" The men that they believe are on their level are objectively better than them and have no interest in them other than a ONS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/12/22 05:20 PM |
| 7 | What is your opinion on "Don't Ask a fish how to fish?"Part of the problem is that the stuff that actually makes you a good fisherman is largely genetic. Height, a handsome face, various personality metrics, etc. People really can't change that kind of stuff. Also this metaphor assumed women don't want to be caught. A lot of women want to be partnered up, and they're giving advice about their likes/dislikes. I don't know why that's blown off. Granted yes some people are full of shit, but as people in general get older they tend to get more aware of … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/22 05:25 AM |
| 9 | Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girlsInternet dating has caused women's standards to go up which means men have to date down. So above average men have to date average or below average women if they want to date at all. Some men just give up, some accept it and date down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/22 03:04 AM |
| 6 | What can South Korean Population collapse tell us about the future of gender and dating in the West?Outside of Sub Saharan Africa, the rest of the world is either at stable population rates or experiencing population declines. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 06:04 AM |
| 3 | What can South Korean Population collapse tell us about the future of gender and dating in the West?There is almost no feminist movement in Japan and their fertility rates are extremely low too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/22 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Is online dating devaluing men in women's eyes? Has online dating ruined dating?I disagree. In my experience it was much easier to meet people before OLD. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 05:08 PM |
| 2 | Is online dating devaluing men in women's eyes? Has online dating ruined dating?Well, I don’t know how old your are but you may feel the effect of women’s financial independence. No, I'm comparing it to the aughts, the 2000-2010 period. Things like smartphones, OLD, social media, etc. mostly caught on around the end of the aughts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Is online dating devaluing men in women's eyes? Has online dating ruined dating?Hasn't been my experience. The modern system makes things worse for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 04:04 PM |
| 16 | Is online dating devaluing men in women's eyes? Has online dating ruined dating?They know 100 men are in their DMs. They never worry about being alone ever at all. The part I'll never get is don't those women realize those 100 men are also in 100+ other women's DMs? It isn't like there are 100 men lined up for every 1 woman, in the real world the gender ratio is 1:1. Its more like every man hits on everything with a pulse, and every other woman in a 20 miles radius has 100 men to pick from, because its the same 100 men hitting on everything and everyone. Do they not realize… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 05:21 AM |
| 10 | Is online dating devaluing men in women's eyes? Has online dating ruined dating?Very much so. I remember dating before smartphones, social media and online dating. Women were much more humble and receptive. Now you have 4s and 5s who act more entitled and demanding than 8s used to act before all these things. Its ruined dating. Women get pumped and dumped by a minority of high quality men, most men get ignored. Its not a good system. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/22 05:19 AM |
| 1 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?40" isn't that big for a man, but the average man is 5'9. It may be bigger now, I think that number is from years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if its 42-43 now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 05:16 PM |
| 1 | Do most men consider 30 year old women to be too old?I wouldn't worry about it. The wall is real and is tied to fertility, since procreation is the real reason we do all this stuff to begin with. A woman's fertility declines with age and starts to decline in her early 20s. But she doesn't become infertile until her 40s. Even then she still has options. I heard one woman say that the quantity of male pursuers goes down as a woman gets older, but the quality generally goes up. So its a trade off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 06:40 AM |
| 2 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?mode | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 06:38 AM |
| 7 | According to you, what does the "average guy"'s dating life look like, as well as the "average woman"'s?The average man has a waist about 40" in circumference, the average woman about 39". Far off from the idealized 24" waist (which is about what an 8 year old has). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 06:33 AM |
| 2 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousDoesn’t even matter. 90% of those dudes are not high quality. Ask any woman. The problem is that due to assortive mating, there aren't enough high quality men to go around. So if 60% of women (as a guess) all decide only 10% of men are good enough, its going to basically be the same 10% of men all the women want. Its really more the 95/5 rule at this point, not the 80/20 rule. You can't have the best of both polygamy and monogamy at the same time. A woman in the 50th percentile can fuck a man in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 03:14 AM |
| 1 | Online dating for women is just f*cking ridiculousWhen women outnumber men: women are happy and men are happy. When men outnumber women: women become uncomfortable and feel more unsafe, men feel pressure, start changing behavior, start peacocking, feel frustrated. It does not work. Its more the opposite really in reality (as opposed to dating apps I mean). When men have the leverage in the dating market (due to a men shortage), then people have sex earlier in relationships, have sex w/o commitment, have more varied forms of sex, etc. When women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/22 03:10 AM |
| 2 | What redpill “truths” have you seen disproven or at least seen an exception to?How do you define weakness, can you give an example of a guy showing you weakness? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 05:12 AM |
| 13 | What redpill “truths” have you seen disproven or at least seen an exception to?I don’t think I’ve ever seen a real life example of AF/BB I see it all the time. Usually the way it works is only trashy, traumatized women do it though. The woman gets pregnant from some good looking, exciting guy (usually in her teens or early 20s) then marries some guy who is much less good looking but has a stable job to help raise the kid. I've seen it quite a lot. Its almost never pretty for the man because like I said, these tend to be trashy women. Honestly, red pill advice is really goo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 04:57 AM |
| 6 | What redpill “truths” have you seen disproven or at least seen an exception to?I'm frustrated by the Peter Pans out there. Can you elaborate on what that means, does that mean men who aren't interested in settling down, or men who don't have the life skills of an adult, or something else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 04:52 AM |
| 1 | What redpill “truth” do you think gives men the most rage?There are plenty of women on your level already. This is true, but it feels like in the modern age of OLD, that this fact doesn't matter much for dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 04:42 AM |
| 1 | What redpill “truth” do you think gives men the most rage?This is true, but thats only for short term mating prospects. Women prefer men with dark triad personality traits for short term mating (one night stands). For long term mating prospects both men and women value things like kindness and communication skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 04:40 AM |
| 7 | What redpill “truth” do you think gives men the most rage?The idea that women chase the top 5-20% of men, then after hitting the wall, getting pumped and dumped and their looks fade, they 'settle down' with a guy who is objectively in their league but who she think she deserves better than. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/11/22 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Impact of OLD and The Internet on datingThe math always catches up to them. If these women are holding out for millionaires, there aren't enough millionaires to go around. Most people who are millionaires are elderly anyway, and/or already taken. There is a very tiny pool of men who are millionaires who are also in their 20s/30s, and good looking, and tall all at the same time which is what these women really want. Its musical chairs. If 50 women compete for 1 guy that guy gets to pump and dump all of them while the women complain tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/22 04:29 AM |
| 2 | How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework?Reverse the genders and apply it to car maintenance instead of house maintenance. Imagine a woman has a car she bought with her own money, her boyfriend demands she cleans it exactly to his specifications on his timeline. He makes up a cleaning schedule and verbally abuses her when he finds a smudge of dirt on it. The gas tank can never get below 3/4 full. The oil has to be changed at 3,000 miles, not 3,001. If she makes any mistakes he will verbally abuse her until she submits to his neurotic, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 07:37 PM |
| 5 | How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework?Billions of years of evolution | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 05:15 PM |
| 4 | How many women expect their partners to do unreasonable amounts of housework?Yes, but from the men's perspective its like having a neurotic, controlling, demanding, verbally abusive roommate who treats you like an unwelcome guest in your own home. Its unappealing to both sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/11/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Sure women want the top 20% of men but is it really that hard to be in that 20 percent of men? ~70% are obese/ overweightIf every man started improving themselves, the perception of the top 20% changes and becomes more stringent. It doesn't just expand. This is true. Back in the 19th century the average man was 5'5 or so. A man who is 5'10 was considered tall by those standards. Now 5'10 is considered average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Sure women want the top 20% of men but is it really that hard to be in that 20 percent of men? ~70% are obese/ overweightIts really the top 5% of men at this point. And it takes a combo of most or all of the following. Handsome, athletic/fit, tall, good education, good income | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 04:58 PM |
| 1 | the problem isn't sex the problem is that men are still expected to be traditional while women aren't“Self sacrificial” really?? This is much more of an expectation on women in my experience. “Spends huge amount of time/energy/money on his family”. Having a family requires a huge amount of time/energy & money from both men and women. The kids need that time, energy and money. It’s expected because it’s a necessary part of life. If you don’t want the responsibility don’t have kids/a family. Both genders have self sacrifice expected from them, but in different forms. Men are expected to work long… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/22 03:27 AM |
| 1 | the problem isn't sex the problem is that men are still expected to be traditional while women aren'tA lot of girls will say that they are progressive and are open-minded but if you look at their actions and especially how they date then you will realize that that's just not the case Being freed from tehir own constrictive gender roles while still demanding men be held to constrictive gender roles is beneficial for a lot of women. I don't know if they lack the self awareness to even know they do it. Reading the replies here, I don't even know if some women even know they are putting men in cons… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Did Women Always Care As Much About Height As They Do Today?Can you please show me evidence that taller people are more healthy? I just did. Its common knowledge that stunting and being shorter is a side effect of malnutrition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:59 PM |
| 1 | Did Women Always Care As Much About Height As They Do Today?https://www.who.int/health-topics/malnutrition#tab=tab_1 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/51421182_Height_and_weight_differences_between_North_and_South_Korea#:~:text=South%20Koreans%20average%20about%206,impossible%20to%20attribute%20to%20genetics. South Koreans average about 6 inches taller than North Koreans (e.g., Schwekendiek, 2009), a difference almost impossible to attribute to genetics. I feel you guys are misunderstanding what I said. I mean that people who are free of infection… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:51 PM |
| 4 | the problem isn't sex the problem is that men are still expected to be traditional while women aren'tAll you've done is verified what I said in my post w/o realizing it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Did Women Always Care As Much About Height As They Do Today?also there is zero correlation between height and intelligence. That's some Ahnenerbe bullshit right there I never said the two were connected. What I said was both height and intelligence are signs of good health and good nutritional status. This is more in pre-history though, in modern society almost everyone is (by pre-history standards) healthy. https://www.who.int/news/item/19-11-2015-stunting-in-a-nutshell#:~:text=Stunting%20is%20the%20impaired%20growth,WHO%20Child%20Growth%20Standards%20m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:35 PM |
| 32 | the problem isn't sex the problem is that men are still expected to be traditional while women aren'tI read all the way through this but I don’t really understand from the OP what being ‘a traditional man’ entails specifically I would say traditional masculinity (as opposed to toxic masculinity, which is more aggressive and sex obsessed) include things like: Self sacrificial Spends a huge amount of his time/energy/money on his family Competent problem solver In charge Able to provide for others In control of his emotions There are endless stories of women abandoning their men when the man loses… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 05:43 AM |
| 13 | the problem isn't sex the problem is that men are still expected to be traditional while women aren'tWomen are not stigmatized for rejected social gender roles but men are stigmatized for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 05:18 AM |
| 21 | the problem isn't sex the problem is that men are still expected to be traditional while women aren'tI think women's attitudes towards men who reject traditional gender roles is about where men's attitudes towards women who rejected traditional gender roles was in the 1970s. Back in the 1970s if a woman was empowered, career oriented, educated, dominant etc. she'd be called a lesbian, made fun of, told no man would want her, etc. Traditional gender roles for men are to be stoic, competent, self-sacrificial, career oriented, constantly working to better the life of his family, in control, etc. B… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 05:16 AM |
| 2 | One thing I don't get about hypergamy theoryMonogamy and polygamy are not binary. Humans are somewhere in the middle, we do both mating strategies. Women who branch swing are probably deep down inside looking to share an elite man with other women because most women don't bring enough value to the table to get monogamy from an elite man. I think the confusion comes from women who want the best of both monogamy and polygamy, which isn't realistic unless you're an elite woman. For women, both monogamy and polygamy have benefits and drawback… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Did Women Always Care As Much About Height As They Do Today?Height (like intelligence) is a sign that you are healthy and have a good nutritional status. if you're starving and full of parasites, you'll be dumb and short. However that doesn't explain why height and intellect aren't as valued in women as they are in men. Probably because men are providers and height is also intimidating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:48 AM |
| 5 | Why are rates of depression so high in modern day Women?In my experience, happiness is tied to pro-social behavior. That isn't really connected with religion (religious people can be very anti-social if they're fundamentalists). FWIW, I think happiness is 50-80% genetic anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:41 AM |
| 2 | Why are rates of depression so high in modern day Women?People have always been depressed, its just that now we have treatments for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/10/22 04:40 AM |
| 23 | What is the female equivalent of height on a guy?I think you're right. I think age is closer to height than body shape for the reasons you propose. Also it triggers a lot of insecurities in the opposite sex just like you said. Also age, just like height, is a bonus but for the most part in and of itself won't get you anywhere with the opposite sex except for a minority of women who just like 'any' guy over 6 foot there are some men who just like any girl under 30. But for the most part, a womans age is just a bonus and there needs to be other … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 04:49 PM |
| 4 | What is the female equivalent of height on a guy?waist to hip ratio. The closer you are to a waist that is 70% the size of your height, the better. Size overall is less important. A thick girl and a thin girl who both have waists 70% the size of their hips and chest are attractive. However I think that may more be the equivalent of a V shaped torso in men. I used to have a V shaped torso when I was younger and women reacted far better than they do now. I'm the same height (about 6'2) that I was back then though. So height pales in comparison t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/22 04:48 PM |
| 1 | The Alpha/Beta male construct is a purely human construct.https://people.com/celebrity/celebrity-sex-partners-mick-jagger-lamar-odom-simon-cowell/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 04:54 PM |
| 3 | The Alpha/Beta male construct is a purely human construct.Great apes such as Bonobos and the aforementioned Chimpanzees are more closely related to us - and I am not arguing patriarchy does not exist, just that it is not an absolute. Supposedly the reason bonobos are so much more egalitarian than chimps is because when the Zaire river split the two groups, the bonobos didn't have to compete with gorillas for food. Its an interesting delve into why one species will become aggressive while another will become egalitarian. https://www.bonobos.org/post/bon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 04:41 PM |
| 3 | The Alpha/Beta male construct is a purely human construct.I don't know how many types of hierarchies there are, but aren't gorillas patriarchial with alpha males? I don't know the nature of homo sapien social structures (for example, I've heard were monogamish, but neither truly monogamous or polygamous), however in humans a male with fame will get far far far more attention than a male without fame. I think the stereotypical alpha behavior is mostly just BS because 'alphas' know the cops will protect them. Basically the reason a small group of men act… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/22 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Why should average or below average men approach women anymore?When women approach men, its more that they give signals of interest and try to open the door for the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/22 11:24 PM |
| 2 | Women are dishonest about what they are attracted to in menAn a mediocre looking tall guy I assumed it was the opposite. Good looking short guys do better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/22 10:29 PM |
| -1 | Women say they don’t want to “mother” their man, but expect the guy to “daddy” herPeople are self centered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/22 02:06 AM |
| 6 | This is a perfect example of when she wants to settle down, she nows considers the nice guys, but alas the nice guys have already been taken. WAATGM?If it makes you feel better, stories like yours do serve as advice for younger, less experienced men who might make the same mistakes. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/09/22 04:46 AM |
| 5 | This is a perfect example of when she wants to settle down, she nows considers the nice guys, but alas the nice guys have already been taken. WAATGM?She didn't even tell him he had a kid for the kids first 6 years. Forrest would never get those years back. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/09/22 04:43 AM |
| 1 | This is a perfect example of when she wants to settle down, she nows considers the nice guys, but alas the nice guys have already been taken. WAATGM?What? I was told there'd be a multimillionaire who was devoted to me always waiting for when I wanted him. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/09/22 04:43 AM |
| 2 | Against Dread Game (Based on Science)It's been six years but yeah its manipulation either way which is not a cornerstone of a healthy relationship | /r/ExRedPill | 16/09/22 06:00 PM |
| 10 | How common is this? "I have an amazing career, make almost 6 figures, have lots of friends and family, fit and physically active, many hobbies and talented, but I can't get a single date"Yeah but they said physically active, not physically attractive. Being fit is not the same thing as good looking. You can be fit and still be short and doughy. I see lots of unattractive and average looking people doing physically active stuff. Basically if you're not in the top 5-10% of men regarding looks, all that other stuff doesn't really matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/09/22 03:50 AM |
| 10 | College men are increasingly shifting right, while college women are shifting left. Why do you think that is?College educated men are much further to the left than high school educated men. Is this trend changing and are college educated men moving rightward? The argument that college educated men are moving rightward doesn't seem to match other data points. https://www.voanews.com/a/college-women-move-left-men-to-the-right/4009370.html But last year, when the 2016 U.S. presidential election between victor Donald J. Trump and Hillary Clinton occurred, 41 percent of the female students identified as lib… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/22 02:48 AM |
| 1 | How strong is the intersection between the Red Pill and the Alt-Right?During 2016 there was a huge overlap between the manosphere and far right politics. You'd see openly anti-semitic posts on subreddits that were supposedly devoted to discussing dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/22 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Was Giacomo Casanova a masculine or dominant man?I think inceldom is more about people having attachment disorders and mental health issues than anything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 07:33 PM |
| 1 | How many times in your life have you became attracted to an "ugly" guy AFTER he opened his mouth? And how about the opposite?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57ta7mkgrOU | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:50 AM |
| 6 | How many times in your life have you became attracted to an "ugly" guy AFTER he opened his mouth? And how about the opposite?Oh this is quite often for me. Some people look great until they speak and you're like "oh god shut it off!" There were some studies done by (I think) David Sloan Wilson. He would evaluate how attractive someone was to people who didn't know them personally vs people who knew them well. Sometimes it was the same people. One test he did was everyone evaluated each other at the start of a semester, then did it again at the end after working together. Something like 2/3 of attraction is whether you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:44 AM |
| 2 | Was Giacomo Casanova a masculine or dominant man?The Velveteen Touch of a Dandy Fop | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:40 AM |
| 4 | Was Giacomo Casanova a masculine or dominant man?One history book I read about him said he didn't consider himself particularly desirable, he just had a knack for knowing who to approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/22 05:39 AM |
| 12 | What are good examples of the female gaze in media?Clothes with pockets? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/22 04:51 AM |
| 6 | What are good examples of the female gaze in media?That actually makes sense. Attractive, fit, athletic men who put themselves in danger to protect others as a vocation, holding babies? I can see the appeal to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 11:01 PM |
| 3 | What are good examples of the female gaze in media?So the tweak and Craig episode of south park was accurate? https://youtu.be/Qx21_7TrkgE | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 10:46 PM |
| 9 | Most men that aren't having sex are otherwise fairly normal dudes, not women hating misogynists like reddit and society would lead you to believeI've heard this before, but the female gaze isn't that impressive when I've heard women explain it to me. One of the big metaphors they use is Thor vs Loki. They say that Thor is the male gaze and a lot of women using the female gaze prefer Loki. But Loki is still a very handsome, fit, tall, powerful person in the MCU. Also the actor that plays him is still rich and famous. Not only that, but Loki is basically a sociopath. So when women say 'we don't want that handsome, fit, rich, tall, famous T… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/22 09:25 PM |
| 1 | What do men think of the Pink pill?I think it only focuses on short term mating. There is short term mating and long term mating. I think pink pill looks for traits that are attractive for short term mating. But when guys look for a long term mate they look for things like emotional stability, financial stability, compatibility, good communication skills. Looks are still important, but they are a far smaller % of the pie in long term vs short term mating strategies. The vast majority of red pill, black pill, pink pill, etc strate… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 09:34 PM |
| 1 | The importance of male look shouldn’t be a topic of controversy.Compared to every single other system of economic order capitalism is by far the most fair one. A mixed system of both state enterprise and private enterprise with regulation and redistribution seems to be the one that most governments adopt. But its kind of off topic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 09:29 PM |
| 1 | The importance of male look shouldn’t be a topic of controversy.The first person didn’t get rewarded for doing something in a past life, he just happened to get lucky. This part is kind of untrue, in the sense that this is how evolution works. Women seek out the highest quality men. Man A who is handsome, sociable, tall, athletic, charismatic, etc probably exists because his dad was like that too and lots of women liked his dad. My point is that you're right, but its not that he got lucky, its that his father had good genetics and women picked up on it. That… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 09:26 PM |
| 1 | are women allowed to have fun in their youth according to the red pillI mostly agree with you, but I think 'investment' is a better term than relationships. What women want is investment. She wants a quality man to invest himself in her and their offspring on an emotional, financial, physical and time level. But even that, there are lots of men willing to invest and they still can't get anywhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/22 08:13 PM |
| 13 | Why do women leave when men are in an emotional rough patch?A YouTuber I follow who was a mortician said she would frequently see men flirting with other women at their own wife’s funeral. wow Also from the article posted The rate [of divorce] when the woman was the patient was 20.8 percent compared to 2.9 percent when the man was the patient. | /r/ExRedPill | 05/07/22 05:21 PM |
| 3 | The average men does not want the average women (in the US)There's much more to dead bedrooms than just looks. Emotional neglect/abuse, medical issues, growing apart as people, etc seem like bigger factors. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/22 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Do women you’re not attracted to you mean anything to you at all? Do you look up to or admire any women?Some of the nicest friends I've made at various jobs have been older women I wasn't attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/22 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Guys, why are you so easily influenced by sex?In evolution, not all men get to reproduce. If you don't reproduce, your genetic line ends. Pretty much any woman can reproduce if she wants, but men have to do risky, dangerous things to earn the right to reproduce. I dont think women will ever understand it because they aren't designed the way men are. Men go to war and work 80 hour weeks in dangerous jobs to prove they're worth reproducing with. Women don't have that same biological build. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/22 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Guys, why are you so easily influenced by sex?At least it gets easier as you age. Jerry: It's like my brain is facing my penis in a chess game. And I'm letting him win. George: You're not letting him win. He wins till you're forty. Jerry: Then what? George: He still wins but it's not a blowout. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/22 03:51 PM |
| 3 | Q4W Can you describe/show what “attractive men” look like to you?I get the impression this is the most important thing for many people, more important than height, build, skin tone, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 04:08 PM |
| 4 | For generations a women’s only worth was her looks. Now it’s mens turn.Whats realistically been happening is these women (with high income careers) want a minority of elite men, which generally doesn't work since those men have endless options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/22 03:59 PM |
| 6 | New article: 50% of single US adults are not looking for relationships or casual datesAs someone who has read multiple biographies of gang members, this is 100% accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/22 12:53 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The biggest issue with modern dating today is looks are valued more than anything else.For OLD, looks matter more than anything. IRL there are a lot of other factors that come into play. Problem is that its hard to find people to date IRL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/22 04:50 AM |
| 6 | Strategic pluralism: the scientific name for "alpha fucks beta bucks"from what I've seen in real life, women get pregnant by some bad boy, can't handle being a single mother and find some beta to marry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 10:21 PM |
| 6 | Strategic pluralism: the scientific name for "alpha fucks beta bucks"yeah but he has to deal with a mean, selfish demanding woman who doesn't respect him or who doesn't feel bad about destroying his relationship with his own kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 05:45 PM |
| 11 | Strategic pluralism: the scientific name for "alpha fucks beta bucks"yes but that woman will likely be high maintenance and will leave him when she's financially able to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 05:11 PM |
| 20 | Strategic pluralism: the scientific name for "alpha fucks beta bucks"Nowadays, its usually single mothers with AF's kids who marry a beta. I've seen it multiple times IRL. They don't really cheat, its more that they get pregnant with AF's kids, then when they're single mothers they marry a beta. Well, they do cheat but they usually wait until the kids are adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 04:09 PM |
| 35 | Strategic pluralism: the scientific name for "alpha fucks beta bucks"There was a reddit thread recently where a guy found his wife cheated when they first got married and his teenage kids aren't his. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 04:08 PM |
| 10 | Why are single women more likely to be happy being single then single men?Statistically, lesbian relationships have the highest rates of divorce and domestic violence. Gay men have the lowest, hetero couples are in the middle. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 04:20 AM |
| 12 | Why are single women more likely to be happy being single then single men?I wonder what role is because women are more likely to be single by choice (despite having multiple potential partners who are interested in them), while men who are single are more likely to be single because nobody wants to date them. I'm sure the latter situation makes you much more resentful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/22 04:18 AM |
| 1 | If there is a very high chance that a woman will divorce you in marriage is there any reason for men to get married anymore?that's probably because before the modern Era, educated women had options to escape bad relationships that less educated women lacked . in the modern Era, educated women are far less likely to end up divorced or as single mothers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 06:05 PM |
| 2 | If there is a very high chance that a woman will divorce you in marriage is there any reason for men to get married anymore?A woman's education is one of the best predictors on whether she'll file for divorce. College educated women only get divorced at rates of 10-20%, while women who dropped out of high school divorce at rates closer to 50%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/22 03:06 PM |
| 2 | The problem of RP menabandonment issues, low self esteem, feeling inadequate, shitty parents, etc. Neil Strauss once said that 80% of men at a PUA seminar had narcissistic mothers. he also said most leaders of PUA had shitty mothers too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 04:18 PM |
| 4 | The problem of RP menI disagree. I think the biggest problem of RP men is they still put pussy on a pedestal. I did it for years. Lifting weights to get a girlfriend is sad, supplicating behaviour. It’s pussy begging. Yup. If a guy wants sex he can just pay for it. But PUA and TRP guys don't want to pay for sex. They want female validation and approval. Any guy that desperate for female validation and approval is compensating for some deep emotional wound he hasn't dealt with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 05:57 AM |
| 17 | The problem of RP menThey want to be told to do (something) and get results. They have actually already been promised this... Get a good job, be a good provider and get results. But they found out that that wasn't true and they're annoyed but it's all fine as long as we give them something else to work and grind on and get result. And their big frustration is...that none of it works or it works but a little bit or even the red pill...it works but on the worst of women. And they want to be told to do something and th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 05:55 AM |
| 1 | What are the professions of the men on this sub?What do you import? Matches, those really long matches | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 05:45 AM |
| 4 | What are the professions of the men on this sub?Thats pretty accurate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 05:44 AM |
| 1 | What are the professions of the men on this sub?I once heard a judge say that the requests for restraining orders spike right before hunting season. He said the reason was vengeful wives and girlfriends want to file a RO so their husband/boyfriend loses his guns for the hunting season as a form of punishment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/22 05:43 AM |
| 4 | The main dating problem for women is that they want commitment and relationships from guys who can enjoy the fullest extent of their company without committingI agree a lot of couples do not fall into this pattern. But there is a large subset of women who engage in this behavior | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 06:25 PM |
| 4 | What percentage of men even want that "High Value Male" lifestyle?there's some variation but similarities too. I mean ruggedly handsome is different from an androgynous emo but both probably have clear skin and symmetrical features for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 05:53 PM |
| 23 | What percentage of men even want that "High Value Male" lifestyle?The issue is: Are we in agreement of what makes a high value man? Height, good Socioeconomic status (education, income, vocation), good face, athletic, emotionally stable, good listener, good with kids, proactive around the house, etc. Theres variation, but I feel stuff like that generally is what people mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 04:47 PM |
| 11 | The main dating problem for women is that they want commitment and relationships from guys who can enjoy the fullest extent of their company without committingMy estimate is that I’d have sex with 4% of men and marry 1.5% of them Which is perfectly fine, but that 1.5% of men who meet your standards are probably men that other women want to marry too. Do you feel you're in the top 1.5% of women, because you'd need to be for those men to want to marry you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 04:40 PM |
| 28 | The main dating problem for women is that they want commitment and relationships from guys who can enjoy the fullest extent of their company without committingYup. Women who are 7s want commitment from men who are 9s. However those men can have a dozen 7s lined up to replace her in a day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 04:35 PM |
| 2 | was the movie casino red pillafter Jenny hid his kid from him for six years she let him see the kid when she was dying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 03:49 PM |
| 3 | was the movie casino red pillrothstein was like the prototypical beta sucker. He falls in love with an emotionally damaged woman who cheats, uses him for money and can't form emotional bonds. It was an excellent movie about what can go wrong for beta bucks guys, if you want to call that red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/05/22 04:42 AM |
| -1 | Women, what do you don't understand about men.how is that more hygienic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 05:27 AM |
| 2 | Why are women more likely to be victims of romance scammers?Part of it is that I think men are more aware that they're being scammed. If you're fat with a crap career, a hot woman isn't going to throw herself at you. But from what I've seen a lot of women genuinely believe that hot men are into them (rather than scamming them). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Most men nowadays are afraid of approach and ask women out because they fear that women will think men are stalking and sexually harassing themI don't know if its that. I think the bigger issue is a lot of men feel women are drowning in online attention that it becomes almost impossible to get on her radar, and its not worth the effort. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 04:12 AM |
| 2 | Who’s a celebrity that you find has an attractive personality?I don't know. I think 'creepy' means you're overtly sexual, don't take hints, don't listen and don't accept rejection. Keanu doesn't seem like any of those things are an issue for him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Women, how do you like being approached/hit onand don't touch me without permission. So, how would you feel about being touched on the elbow? A long time ago when I did cold approaches, I had far more success when I touched a woman on her elbow before talking to her. I hope I didn't make those women uncomfortable, because they seemed to be enjoying it. I did all the other stuff you say though (didn't say anything sexual, took rejection hints and didn't pressure them. Plus ask them questions about themselves). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 04:03 AM |
| 14 | Women, what do you don't understand about men.Why don't women remember to put it up? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 04:00 AM |
| 14 | Women, what do you don't understand about men.In evolutionary history, not all men procreated. Only the ones with status and social power did. So men will do deeply stupid, destructive things to gain status, especially when they're in their teens and 20s. Its probably not a coincidence that male criminals tend to calm down quite a bit in early middle age, which is when you start becoming too old to raise kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 03:56 AM |
| 5 | Women, what do you don't understand about men.I don't think even we know. men have a lot of varied preferences for things like hair color, skin color,, body shape, personality, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 03:56 AM |
| 86 | Women, what do you don't understand about men.Think of it like hunger. Like you haven't eaten in 2 days and you gorge yourself on cake. Once the sense of hunger is gone, you start thinking about all those thoughts you pushed aside due to hunger. This cake is going to cause health issues down the line, this cake will make me fatter, this cake has no vitamins, etc. Once the biological urge to quench your hunger is gone, your rational brain comes back. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 03:54 AM |
| 2 | single guys, do you spend time with girls you're not attracted to?Yup. Some of the best friends I've had were women who weren't objectively attractive and I wasn't subjectively attracted to them either (those are two different things). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/22 03:52 AM |
| 1 | Most girls are desperateI have never met a woman who was desperate for male attention or validation or relationships or whatever. You've never met a woman who was desperate for a relationship? I can understand saying you've never met women who are desperate for attention or validation (but there are plenty of women who are desperate for these things to, which is why thirst traps are so popular). But single women being desperate for a relationships is fairly common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Why sugar mommas are pretty rare but sugar daddies are quite popular?From what I've seen (which isn't much), if a woman does pay a man its likely one of the following situations. most of the 'free' dick she can get are from ugly men who are bad at sex. So she pays so an attractive man who is good at sex will fuck her how/when she wants in ways she enjoys. ONS sex for women generally isn't very good. A woman can get sex, but she can't always get good sex from a man shes attracted to. Shes paying for the emotional support more than anything. For a guy who can be li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/04/22 11:52 PM |
| -2 | How does female attraction work, or rather how does a man become attractive?women don't look for a guy who could be a good father or who has resources? | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/22 06:05 PM |
| -5 | How does female attraction work, or rather how does a man become attractive?I trust scientists more than I trust you. believe what you want | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/22 05:53 PM |
| -7 | How does female attraction work, or rather how does a man become attractive?As a rough rule of thumb, women are going to look for the 4 Ps. Protector, provider, partner, parent Do you have traits that signify you'll be good at these 4 things? if so, women will like you generally speaking. Good looks imply you're healthy. Being healthy means your kids will be healthy and you'll be healthy enough to stay with her. Its complex, but I would recommend you read some David Buss. He discusses the evolutionary psychology of attraction and mating, but w/o all the sociopathic, dar… | /r/ExRedPill | 13/04/22 04:55 PM |
| 1 | The only people that truly win in today's dating market are high value menAs a high SMV man, you can have casual sex with a lot of women who are 5s, 6s and 7s. But if you're a man who is a 9, its still going to be very hard to find a committed, meaningful relationship with a woman who is also a 9. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 04:57 PM |
| 4 | Is white knight syndrome a real thing men do?Yup, everyone knows she'd never defend him or his reputation. She went out of her way to humiliate him on national TV when she discussed how she'd cheat on him. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/22 05:28 PM |
| 5 | (Casual) Sex really is overrated and job prospects are shockingly underrated around hereI don’t get hustle culture, its so culty and I absolutely HATE how much they dickride rich people. STOP ACTING LIKE EVERY BILLIONAIRES SUCCESS CAN BE REACHED BY ANYONE, MOST WERE BORN INTO RICH FAMILIES. Not just that, a lot of billionaires are extremely intelligent (which is mostly genetic. Many of them were in or planning to do PhDs in math and science) and had family connections. Bill Gates's mom was on a board with an IBM executive, and she convinced him to use her son's software program. | /r/ExRedPill | 02/04/22 05:25 PM |
| 1 | Bill Maher's recent comments on toxic masculinityPutin is hiding in a bunker. During the first Iraq war Saddams son Uday when to Europe so he could gamble. Stuff like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Bill Maher's recent comments on toxic masculinityDisagree. Due to evolution women are ingrained with a desire for men who are protectors. Zelenskyy, by staying behind fits that mold. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/22 04:48 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: Would you go out of your way to talk to a woman you had no sexual attraction towards?As a guy, In my experience the older (like late middle aged) unattractive women generally make the best work friends of any age group or gender. I'm not sure why but they're usually nice, interesting, friendly, good conversation partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/03/22 03:26 AM |
| 3 | CMV: The only reason women claim that men only want to fuck them and not be in a relationship is because the bottom 80% of men that DO want a relationship are invisible to womenMen complaining about being chosen as beta bux really should rethink if that is such a bad thing. A woman who doesn't respect you and browbeats you constantly, then divorces you when her children are grown up and don't need a stepdad anymore? Yeah its a bad thing. I've seen it multiple times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/03/22 02:07 AM |
| 1 | A rich man might fuck broke hot young women but he'd never wife them upThen those men are idiots who are going to end up with an abusive psycho who makes their lives a nightmare. men care about far more than just looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 07:15 AM |
| 2 | Why are women so much more content to be forever alone than men?I don't know if they are. I think due to evolution women have a strong need to feel like a man finds them valuable and desirable enough to invest in and commit to. A woman can get sex easy, but finding a man who wants to invest in you and commit to you and your offspring is harder. Based on my personal experience, the women who are ok with being alone are usually divorced, middle aged single moms who have enough money to pay their bills and are attractive enough that they could get a new partner… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 04:07 PM |
| 38 | There is not a shortage of single men who have their life in orderTheres a shortage of men in the top 5% of SMV/RMV willing to form committed, monogamous relationships with women in the 50th percentile of SMV/RMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/02/22 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Q4W How would you react to your SO losing a fight in a really pathetic way?yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 04:38 PM |
| 21 | Q4W How would you react to your SO losing a fight in a really pathetic way?she meant to say she'd abandon him so she can be with the guy who beat him up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/22 04:05 AM |
| 3 | 25 year old mother of FIVE spawn says you ain’t worth her time if you’re friends with a “hoe.” The mattress on the floor of that pigsty is getting full!Sad reality that this woman can succeed to this level in reproduction, while a decent man making $50k a year could go his entire life childless idiocracy was pretty accurate. Education is negatively tied to the number of offspring. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 21/02/22 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Now that women have been sexually liberated, most men will always be sexually frustratedVery few people want to live a life of constant vigilance and perfect presentation in order to keep the attention of someone far outside their league. I think part of the concern is that constant easy validation causes many people who exaggerate what their league is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 05:53 AM |
| 3 | Now that women have been sexually liberated, most men will always be sexually frustratedYup. If every guy magically grows 3" in height, then the cutoff for 'tall' becomes 6'3 instead of 6'0. If everyone's income goes up, the cutoff for 'good job' goes up. High value is a relative term as it is based on comparisons with other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 05:49 AM |
| 1 | Now that women have been sexually liberated, most men will always be sexually frustratedYes, but the % of men who these women consider desirable is far far smaller than the % of these women who want them for committed, monogamous relationships where the men commit to and invest in the women. Its a game of musical chairs, 5+ women who all want the one high SMV/RMV male. hence all the women complaining about 'guys only wanting sex' or 'guys not being willing to grow up' or 'guys not being willing to commit'. Men who have a dozen 5s or 6s lined up to replace you aren't going to commit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/22 05:38 AM |
| 3 | The rapid societal decline in sex and relationships is solely due to women's lack of interestIs there any evidence that women's preferences were more realistic 20-30 years ago? I can only speak from personal experience, but things were different before online dating, smartphones, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 05:03 AM |
| 1 | The rapid societal decline in sex and relationships is solely due to women's lack of interestAre they not interested, or are they only interested in the top 5%, and those men have no reason to commit? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 05:00 AM |
| – | The rapid societal decline in sex and relationships is solely due to women's lack of interestI know men who feel this same way. I wonder if this means that the nature of relationships will change. In history couples had to share the same bed and same household. But I know some couples who have separate bedrooms, and some couples who have separate houses and they enjoy it. The idea that there is a linear nature of relationship and that living in the same house in the same bed is superior and an end goal vs having separate bedrooms or separate households may be going away soon as people g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/22 04:50 AM |
| 15 | What is something someone said or told you that make you understand the perspective of the opposite sex better?As a metaphor for why women are scared of men. As a guy, imagine a bunch of gay NFL players are into you. They have twice as much muscle as you do, they're 6 inches taller than you and some of them are very sexually aggressive. You know everything they say to you is just designed to get you to agree to having sex with them, and you don't know which ones of them will react badly if you turn them down. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/22 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Is it just me or do women nowadays have so many dating options that it makes it hard to be their first hand choice?But it seems to me men have tons of choices too. A lot of guys would respond to that by saying you're only looking at a tiny minority of elite men. Those men are drowning in options. Its something both genders seem to do, only consider a small minority of elite members of the opposite sex to even be candidates for dating. They just write everyone else off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 07:11 PM |
| 4 | Is it just me or do women nowadays have so many dating options that it makes it hard to be their first hand choice?It doesn’t matter if she’s your wife, she can get a man at any time. She can get sex. What she can't get is a HVM to commit and invest in her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/02/22 06:56 PM |
| 5 | Why do you think men are more right wing than women?The truth is that the modern right is the antithesis of critical thinkers, they are reactionary fascists controlled by emotions and ideology. I have no idea how you guys convinced yourselves you're these rational, deep thinkers when so many of you worship a sociopathic con man like Trump who lied 30,000 times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 05:57 PM |
| 2 | Why do you think men are more right wing than women?Yeah, the right loves supply side tax cuts and military spending, both of which increase the deficit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Why do you think men are more right wing than women?women are more pro-choice than men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/22 05:51 PM |
| 29 | Men's standards are too lowI'm 30, I have my own house, 6 figure job, I'm in shape, I have friends. In a past generation I'd have no problem getting at least some dates. But in 2022? Its a complete waste of time. There is a huge difference in what dating is like for men pre vs post ~2010 when social media, smart phones and dating apps came around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/02/22 06:17 AM |
| 0 | Average men wanting chad’s lifestyle are akin to middle class people wanting a billionaire lifestyleEvery man desires chads lifestyle. this may sound like sour grapes, but it doesn't sound super appealing in a lot of ways. If you're a guy who is a 9, you have your pick of endless women who are 5s and 6s who are trying to trap you. A bunch of 6s who think they deserve a 9 and who may be trying to get pregnant or get you to commit isn't that appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 05:25 PM |
| 12 | Average men wanting chad’s lifestyle are akin to middle class people wanting a billionaire lifestyleI saw an actual study about this. Forget the exact details, but women and their mothers were shown photos of men and a description of them. Basically the guys personality only mattered if he was attractive enough to be on their radar as a potential partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/02/22 05:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Male sexual market value (SMV) and male relationship market value (RMV) are roughly similar, but a significant gap exists between female SMV and female RMV.disagree. there are tons of men with high SMV and low RMV. mentally unstable, good looking bad boys for example. Also there's no connection with women either. they're independent factors | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/01/22 12:13 AM |
| 0 | My Red pill friend got a bitter taste of reality.I don't think its that, I think its feeling like the woman's backup option. So insecurity, but not really jealousy. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/01/22 08:36 PM |
| 6 | A guy doesn't have to be handsome to be sexually attractiveI dispute it. Height doesn't really matter without an athletic build. Face is more important than both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/01/22 06:50 AM |
| 3 | How can men fix online dating? Issues from a woman's point of viewaccurate. it's not a working system | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/01/22 05:46 AM |
| 9 | Is it fair to say that the evidence shows that women find it difficult to feel attraction for a man with less money than her?It applies to physicians too. Male physicians are more likely to marry women of lower SES than female physicians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/22 04:57 PM |
| 18 | 3rd richest man in the world btw LMFAOOOFame/social proof attracts women far more than money. Look at the women motley crue pulled, compared to the kinds of women swarming warren buffet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/01/22 06:28 AM |
| 3 | Being Beta is not bad.The fear of being beta is more about being viewed as a backup option that a woman past her prime uses for money and as a free babysitter, and who she secretly resents and thinks she deserves better than. I've met men who actually were beta bucks. Their wives tended to treat them like shit, cheat, then left when the kids were older and didn't need BB anymore. Being a decent person, a good listener, a good communicator, etc are totally different things. Its more about not ending up with someone wh… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/01/22 05:05 AM |
| 14 | When the "good men" and "Chads" start asking women what they bring to the table.sad that having reasonable standards is considered balls of steel. men in the top 10% want women in the top 10%. that's just normal mating economics. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/12/21 06:25 PM |
| 13 | Having genuine female friends (and generally being around open-minded people) really changed my perspective on how I view dating, relationships, women and people in general.what aspects of TRP philosophy did you feel were most disproven by the friends you surrounded yourself with? | /r/ExRedPill | 30/12/21 06:59 AM |
| 4 | Is being white or tall supposed to be good or something?Its kind of like when people act like blonde hair on a woman is an attractive trait in and of itself. Having blond on a hot girl is attractive. Blond hair on a plain girl isn't attractive. It may score you bonus points if you're a woman, but only if you're already attractive. If you're not already attractive, it doesn't do much. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/12/21 05:06 AM |
| 5 | Is being white or tall supposed to be good or something?I don't believe this I am also white and over 6 feet tall, I don't believe it either. unless you also have a good face and/or a V shaped torso, it really doesn't attract women by itself. | /r/ExRedPill | 30/12/21 05:02 AM |
| 13 | It seems like men don’t really approach women anymore, especially in the west. What are your thoughts on this?there's lots of threads of women saying they never get approached | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/21 02:58 AM |
| 16 | Where are all the grown men? I'm sick of dating mAn cHiLdReN 😹this quote was dead on Did it never occur to you that not wanting to commit to you isn't a sign that the man is immature, but rather a sign that you're unworthy of commitment? That he has assessed you as too great a risk? Most men aren't scared of commitment at all, but rather rightfully concerned about committing to the wrong woman and losing everything they worked for committing to the wrong person is extremely dangerous if you're a man. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 26/12/21 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Women of exredpill - Is Alpha Fucks Beta bucks true?I think abuse victims with empath traits and poor boundaries are more likely to end up in relationships with narcs and sociopaths. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/12/21 05:25 PM |
| 0 | Women of exredpill - Is Alpha Fucks Beta bucks true?I just wanted to find out if functional and well adjusted women are like this too or not In my experience, no. if anything functional and well adjusted women are repulsed by TRP tactics. Functional/well adjusted women generally try to find the best guy they can land for a LTR. Generally speaking, TRP is teaching men with emotional issues to overcompensate for those issues (trauma, low self esteem, etc) by chasing female validation. It teaches men to develop sociopathic and narcissistic traits to… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/12/21 05:21 PM |
| 5 | Women of exredpill - Is Alpha Fucks Beta bucks true?8 billion | /r/ExRedPill | 23/12/21 05:07 PM |
| -5 | Women of exredpill - Is Alpha Fucks Beta bucks true?I know you asked for women, but as a guy yes it is true but its generally only dysfunctional women who do it. What tends to happen is when a woman is young, she dates a bad boy and has a kid. Then the pressures of single motherhood combined with her getting older (and less desirable) make her crave security instead, so she starts dating more boring, less attractive but more stable men because she can't handle the time and financial pressures of single motherhood. However it doesn't work out. Gen… | /r/ExRedPill | 23/12/21 05:06 PM |
| 32 | The biggest turn on for adult women is a guy that has plenty of things going in in his life.I had way more female attention when I was younger but thinner with a V shaped torso, but also mental health issues, than I ever got later when I got into therapy but also gained weight | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/12/21 02:34 AM |
| 19 | What the hell does being alpha even mean?in the animal kingdom, the toughest primate isn't usually the leader . the leader is the one who can build alliances best. no matter how tough and strong you are, you are no match for five people who jump you when you're distracted. | /r/ExRedPill | 14/12/21 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Do 'average' Women just bring more to the table today than 'average' Men?By comparison, single parenthood and obesity negatively affect a womans desirability more than a man who has them (the same way unemployment negative affects a mans desirability more than it does a woman). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/21 05:33 AM |
| 2 | High value men would not date a McDonald's worker just because she is hotTRP simplifies things way too much and assumes all men care about is short term mating and obtaining validation from sex. People are more complex than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 04:32 PM |
| 8 | Two PHD's Discuss How Human's Select and Keep Romantic Partners: Pretty Much Confirms Red Pill Logic So Farhe does reject dual mating strategy for the most part, and more sides with mate switching to explain it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/11/21 12:17 AM |
| 2 | What’s the average experience for unattractive women?I don't think attractiveness follows a bell curve distribution. It probably more follows a power law distribution. Most people are not that impressive, and a tiny minority are very impressive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/21 05:03 PM |
| 4 | What’s the average experience for unattractive women?There aren't very many unattractive women. Disagree. You may just totally ignore unattractive women and don't see them. go to a walmart sometime, around 80% of the women there are unattractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/21 05:00 PM |
| 19 | What’s the average experience for unattractive women?I don't believe for one minute that unattractive women get mocked in public for being fat or ugly. In the real world people don't openly mock you for being unattractive for the most part. What happens is people ignore you and get uncomfortable if they think you are attracted to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/21 04:57 PM |
| 40 | Why is it that all the hawt guyz on this hookup app only want to hook up with me? I can't figure it out!here's another economic metaphor. if you apply for a job that has endless qualified applicants, due to supply and demand that employer will probably treat you poorly since there are endless other applicants lined up to take your place. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 23/11/21 11:54 PM |
| 1 | One thing that is never talked about are the unfair social ramifications of a man shooting his shot and not succeedingsome people are just attention junkies, or just looking for a backup option, or have commitment issues and flake when things get too close. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/21 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Here are my demands.I wonder if she has kid | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/11/21 01:03 AM |
| -1 | If 80% of women are going after the top 20% of men, what are the remaining 20% of women doing?Women that were attractive in high school have been divorced and remarried or in the case of my high school crush never married. I know several other very attractive women that never married. They all had very high standards as far as looks and careers that could never be met and they aged out of the market. One of them dates younger guys because she thinks younger men like her but she is just too old to know that she is being spun like a plate. I also saw this. I think the main factor is the wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/21 05:31 PM |
| 33 | Single mother of four with two baby daddies is finally ready to settle with a nice guy who is willing to "take it slow" and "share responsibility in everything equally." Form an orderly line gentlemen, and please have your bank transfer details ready!reminds me of another post where a guy bought tickets to disneyland for a woman and her son, then the girlfriend got upset because she wanted a vacation just for her. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/11/21 07:50 PM |
| 64 | Single mother of four with two baby daddies is finally ready to settle with a nice guy who is willing to "take it slow" and "share responsibility in everything equally." Form an orderly line gentlemen, and please have your bank transfer details ready!Pay attention to the times your wife complains about "doing everything in this house". She's likely to categorize all of your work as a single item - going to work to earn money. She's also likely to categorize all that she does into many, many items. (I swept and mopped and washed the dishes and the laundry and I folded and put it away and and and....). I've seen this before. Reminds me of a couple where he works 80 hours a week and she thinks he should have to do half the housework to make thi… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/11/21 07:49 PM |
| 11 | Redditor explains why he avoids single moms of young children.that's code for 'self sacrifice for the benefit of shitty people who won't reciprocate or appreciate it' | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 12/11/21 08:11 PM |
| 9 | Redditor explains why he avoids single moms of young children.it already exists, they shame men who don't want to be step fathers | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 12/11/21 08:10 PM |
| 6 | Most women don't deserve prince charming. Most women (like most men) are average and deserve average men. That western women waste their youth throwing themselves at high value men they don't deserve only to be pumped & dumped is why they end up bitter, alone or "settling".no I haven't been outside. I spend most of my time shopping in the men's makeup section of the department stores. that's when I'm not shopping all the form fitting men's under garments designed to mold body shape | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 01:16 AM |
| 9 | Society doesn't need more women as CEOs, politicians, and in positions of power over othersdisagree. women are in general somewhat more risk adverse and more empathetic. I believe in the run up to the 2008 financial collapse, female financial leaders were less willing to make risky bets that destroyed the economy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 12:54 AM |
| 7 | Do men who are obsessed with dating much younger women seriously overstate the desire that younger women might have towards them? (Kinda NSFW)generally the only young women into older men are either gold diggers or emotionally damaged women with daddy kinks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 12:51 AM |
| 6 | Most women don't deserve prince charming. Most women (like most men) are average and deserve average men. That western women waste their youth throwing themselves at high value men they don't deserve only to be pumped & dumped is why they end up bitter, alone or "settling".I think that's because women put more effort into their looks, so their bell curve is slightly to the right regarding looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/11/21 12:35 AM |
| 3 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.yup, this was my argument in a nutshell. I see lots of women go for trp tactics or fit trp descriptions. But they're mostly dysfunctional on one level or another | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 07:59 PM |
| 31 | CMV: Since women are attracted to “bad boys” during their 20s and then settle down with the “nice guy” by the time they reach 30, that just means that pursuing healthy relationships with women is pointless.Not all women do that though. TRP is accurate, but its accurate for women on the more dysfunctional end of the spectrum. Lots of women never go through a bad boy phase, and lots of women never cheat on their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/21 03:26 AM |
| 7 | Genius intellect single mom can see through your BS, and her lack of marriage has nothing to do with her past choices.out of 2400 | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 02/11/21 01:39 AM |
| 3 | Blackpill is the truthnot true though. studies have found that a person's attractiveness can either increase or decrease dramatically after getting to know them | /r/ExRedPill | 29/10/21 08:13 PM |
| 4 | Her: Accept me and the fact that another man's seed is currently growing inside of me. Did I mention my heart of gold?as you date older women, their odds of pregnancy decrease dramatically. also their kids are already grown up by then. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 29/10/21 01:55 AM |
| 24 | Single mom lucks out still feels she's settling - You can't make this shit up...that's true, and it's the same for me. I have preferences but I've found a wide range of women attractive. women have these hard numerical limits for height and income that you don't see in men when we evaluate women. I think it's just to impress their friends by having easy to reference numbers | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/10/21 04:28 AM |
| 24 | Single mom lucks out still feels she's settling - You can't make this shit up...if I had a daughter who acted like this, I'd honestly tell her boyfriend that he can do better. I would want my adult daughter to have a good life, but not if it means taking advantage of good people and eventually destroying their innocence. she will leave him broken after she gets the tingles a few years after the marriage. he deserves better. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/10/21 04:21 AM |
| 33 | Single mom lucks out still feels she's settling - You can't make this shit up...I remember a male model who used to post on mgtow said that he said he could easily get women but they treated him like an expensive pair of shoes to show off. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/10/21 04:19 AM |
| 26 | Single mom lucks out still feels she's settling - You can't make this shit up...even though guys generally prefer thinner women I've never heard men objectify women by having hard limits for BMI, cup size, waist size, etc I've never heard a guy say 'I like her but her waist is over 28 inches'. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/10/21 04:18 AM |
| 33 | Single mom lucks out still feels she's settling - You can't make this shit up...I'm 6'2, unless you have a V shaped torso to go along with it, height alone doesn't get you far. women view height as something to punish you for not having, not something to reward you for possessing. kind of like owning a car. they'll punish you for lacking it but not reward you for having it. But barely 15% of men are 6' or taller so they automatically disqualify most men on that alone. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/10/21 04:16 AM |
| 18 | Single mom lucks out still feels she's settling - You can't make this shit up...narcissists view their children as competition | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/10/21 04:15 AM |
| 6 | Single mom lucks out still feels she's settling - You can't make this shit up...that poor man. this woman will browbeat him, take him for granted and probably verbally and psychologically abuse him. eventually she will cheat and tell everyone it was his fault for being selfish. he will be blindsided because he can't see what cancer this woman is and he will lose his wife and his adopted son. she will probably brainwash the kid to hate him too despite him being the only positive male role model he ever had. It's not even funny, it's just sad. but this is how it will play out… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/10/21 04:10 AM |
| 6 | What are the ways in which women enforce Toxic Masculinity?women sexually reward violent criminals in crime ridden areas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/10/21 10:20 PM |
| 1 | If Red Pill Is Right, Haven’t Men Lost/Are Losing?Women don’t care about marriage or children anymore Again, the women you are referencing are a minority. Many women want investment and commitment from a HVM and want to start a family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 06:04 AM |
| 0 | If Red Pill Is Right, Haven’t Men Lost/Are Losing?The root reason why people have sex it procreation. A woman's fertility declines with age. At 22 her chances of getting pregnant in a random month of having unprotected sex are about 25%. By her late 30s its 10%, by her late 40s its 0%. The wall is real, but its more of a decline than a hard shift. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 05:30 AM |
| 2 | If Red Pill Is Right, Haven’t Men Lost/Are Losing?Guys, I hate to tell you this, but women don’t have this wall you think they do. When it comes to children? Sure, but these stunning, successful women didn’t want children anyways! Their earning potential is going up while ours is going down, and women are sleeping with younger men or even paying for it…just like us! Not to be a dick, but have you met these women IRL? They are usually quite miserable that they can't land the kind of guy they think they deserve. Women crave a high value man to in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/10/21 05:26 AM |
| 1 | The trap of using others for validation and mood boostingNo, not all. I think its more people who have an endless desire to approach every mildly hot woman they see who have this issue. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/10/21 03:34 AM |
| 9 | The trap of using others for validation and mood boostingYeah, agreed. A lot of it comes from deep seated wounds of feeling not good enough or not valuable enough. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/10/21 04:36 PM |
| 2 | Is hitting the wall even a thing?it's not a hard wall, more of a steady decline in fertility which causes a decline in male attention. the odds of a natural pregnancy at age 44 are 1/5 of what they are at 22. men still pay attention to older women, but it won't be the same at 51 vs 21 https://www.qfg.com.au/trying-to-conceive/female-fertility/age-fertility the issue with trp is that when looking for a partner, people have a wide range of things they look for and age and fertility are just two. many men prefer an emotionally sta… | /r/ExRedPill | 22/09/21 01:41 AM |
| 7 | This Is Why Men Don't Understand What Women Find AttractiveYes but how can a woman gain info about deep seated psychological traits of a man based on a photograph? Women may value men who have personality traits that imply they are good partner and parent material, but you can't really tell that from a photo. Maybe a photo of a man taking care of children or pets, but I'm not sure. Also men value these same traits in women. When looking for a wife and mother to his children, guys value emotional stability, intelligence, earning capacity, compatibility, … | /r/ExRedPill | 21/09/21 02:21 PM |
| 8 | Has the 80/20 rule turned into the 90/10 rule or 95/5 rule in recent years?Because society teaches things that aren't true and its good to have confirmation of unpleasant realities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/21 03:22 AM |
| 4 | Has the 80/20 rule turned into the 90/10 rule or 95/5 rule in recent years?With OLD its more like 95/5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/21 03:21 AM |
| 2 | Carol offering less in a relationship than ever before, realizes she may be single foreverexactly. do the chores I want done, when I want them done, how I want them done. Then they act like you're a kid if you won't go along with that | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/09/21 07:43 PM |
| 3 | Carol offering less in a relationship than ever before, realizes she may be single foreverin many of these situations, aren't the women just mad that men won't clean to their standards with their priorities on their timeline? basically they treat the men like guests in their own homes then get mad when they won't obey. just hire someone to do it. less headache. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/09/21 07:02 PM |
| 6 | Carol offering less in a relationship than ever before, realizes she may be single foreverreminds me of a couple I knew. he worked 80 hours a week, she worked 40. she was upset that the household chores weren't 50/50. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/09/21 07:00 PM |
| 9 | "Christian men aren't asking us on dates so we're forced to date non-Christians! Where are all the REAL Christian men?"They're out trying to overthrow the government | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/09/21 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Men tend to be delusional about their sexual attractivenessWhats also hard is when you have a mix of attractive and ugly traits. Some women like you, some find you repulsive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 04:37 AM |
| 4 | Sperm donor needed. You give up all rights and will never see the kid but you still owe 20% of your income in support. Form an orderly lineI thought that said 'never drank except for communism' | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 02/09/21 04:24 PM |
| 1 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.as someone who has met various female subs who were into kink, most female subs are educated feminists who are fairly insightful, and many had good careers. it's different than what you're describing which is more of a cultural vs individual preference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/21 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Here are her deMANandsshe is an unemployed business owner. it's a very stressful vocation | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 25/08/21 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Why the sexual market place will ALWAYS be skewed towards women in a free society.Its about investment. Whatever gender invests more of themselves physically and psychologically in procreation will be the pursued gender. In most animals species that is the female, but in some species the male invests more in the offspring than the female. In those species (whose names I can't remember right now) the males are the choosier gender and the females pursue them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/21 01:17 AM |
| 3 | Tinder Files: You Need to Man Up & Deal w/ Someone’s Else Kids! And in Return You’ll Get…. Nothin’guy(s) | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 06/08/21 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Tinder Files: You Need to Man Up & Deal w/ Someone’s Else Kids! And in Return You’ll Get…. Nothin’collage? Thats the shitty thing about dating apps, the women think there is an infinite number of men so no matter how irrational and selfish they are, they think men will just put up with it. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 06/08/21 04:07 PM |
| -4 | Line up boys! 33yo fat granny is looking for someone to step up and pay for her children!trauma and socio-economic status are passed between generations | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 04/08/21 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Send in your resumes.horse trainer | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/07/21 02:49 AM |
| 5 | Women are not wrong in their criticism of "men nowadays"Sure they can't read, have no education, have no economy, have no medical care or technology in general, live in a culture based on abuse and are at the whims of any invading force that comes by. But at least they are reeelz men /s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 03:43 PM |
| 4 | Women are not wrong in their criticism of "men nowadays"go over there and see how many men are capable of holding together a functioning civilization. There are more important things in life than getting laid or impressing women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/21 03:41 PM |
| – | Why is it that you always hear about women being very vocal about not wishing to date men of their opposite political spectrum (the vast majority of the time it's liberal women vs conservative men) but you don't see men doing the same thing nearly as often (mostly conservative men vs liberal women)?because conservative men are hostile to women's independence in ways that conservative women are not hostile to men's independence. If conservative women felt that men should be mandated to have vasectomies by the government, or more prone to believe that men shouldn't be in positions of power, or wanted men constrained by tradcon gender roles then the same thing would happen in that side | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 05:14 AM |
| 1 | Is obesity more of a problem for male attractiveness than for female?same. I've been fat, tall and muscular. it's only when I had a V shaped torso that women responded approvingly | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/21 05:09 AM |
| 2 | We are headed for a huge population cliff mainly because men and women have been conditioned to hate each other.the decline in births has nothing to do with culture. East Asian nations have much lower reproduction rates and their cultures are more traditional regarding gender roles. Once people get wealthy, they stop having kids. Pretty much no upper income nation is having enough kids to keep population levels stable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/21 04:30 PM |
| 2 | Men dont respect womenit's the same with me. where are these people who only meet men who are rude and dismissive with unattractive women and fake nice to attractive women to have sex with them? sounds pretty dysfunctional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/21 05:59 PM |
| 2 | Women want to join a saved gamewomen always say this but it's not accurate. this is kind of like when women discuss how often they get sexually assaulted and men say 'that didn't happen'. men who discuss what their reality is like are told by women that that didn't happen. but it does. The reality is reasonable looking men with good hygiene and good careers are mostly invisible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 08:36 PM |
| 1 | How many men in relationships view themselves as "beta?"women on tinder don't seem to care about alpha or beta, they care about good looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 06:13 PM |
| 1 | How many men in relationships view themselves as "beta?"there's more to life than fucking a string of emotionally damaged women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 06:12 PM |
| 1 | How many men in relationships view themselves as "beta?"I have also noticed the BB in AF/BB RP ideology has become totally divorced from the actual dual mating strategy observed in biology / evo psych. In the dual mating strategy, physical attractiveness is still the top variable for mate selection for long term relationships. No one has ever claimed that long term partners are unattractive or not sexually desirable. The research has never supported it. Do you have evidence of this? why would a woman value good looks in a mate to take care of another… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/21 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Oh the fertility! And she wants your seed next!My guess is it was an attempt to secure a relationship with said betas that clearly failed? Yup. But she wasn't able to stay with any of them. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/07/21 04:50 PM |
| 5 | Oh the fertility! And she wants your seed next!One girl I know IRL has 4 kids by 3 men (First one was the kid of a chad, other 3 were a string of betas). | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/07/21 06:41 AM |
| 22 | Woman regrets turning down nice guys after dating bad boys and getting older, suggesting that the men she rejected are now either married, dating, or no longer interested.eh. she went from chasing Chad to wanting a gullible beta she doesn't love back to worship her. once she gets bored, she'll cheat on her devoted beta and blame him for it. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 19/07/21 05:17 PM |
| 4 | Instead of theorizing, what is something you genuinely don't understand about women?I think theres also a strong sense of 'if I can fix this broken person, then they will pay me back by sticking with me and this proves that I'm valuable and desirable' basically it something people with low self esteem and a fear of abandonment are drawn to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 06:18 AM |
| 2 | How can women get a man to commit to her?baby trap, or hope he has terrible self esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 06:12 AM |
| 1 | How can women get a man to commit to her?Toxic families can fuck you up for life unless you do intensive therapy. Even then it can cause a lot of issues with attachment, self esteem, how you think relationships should work, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 06:10 AM |
| 7 | How can women get a man to commit to her?The problem is a man who is HV in both RMV and SMV is rare, and he is going to commit to a woman in his league. Guys who are 9s and 10s aren't patiently waiting to form a monogamous relationship with a female 6 with an inflated ego. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 06:09 AM |
| 1 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?I mean, its fairly transparent thats what women want when you understand mating strategy and evolution. The issue is that mathematically the % of women who want that is far far larger than the % of men who can offer those things. Plus men who can offer that are in the top 5%, and they're looking for women in the top 5%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 05:16 AM |
| 2 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?well, good luck. unless you're in the top 5% of women it probably won't happen | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/21 03:08 AM |
| 80 | Why do women think the bar is set low meanwhile men think it’s set high ?so basically women want effort, commitment, romance and chivalry from tall, attractive, well off men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/21 07:23 PM |
| 13 | “Only one of them has a boyfriend and [the others are] all really attractive, fun girls, clever, educated, and can’t find a boyfriend. It’s really odd.”they'll end up verbally and emotionally abused, taken for granted, and then cheated on or divorced when he isn't useful anymore. I've seen it irl many times. not worth it. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/07/21 08:58 PM |
| 9 | “Only one of them has a boyfriend and [the others are] all really attractive, fun girls, clever, educated, and can’t find a boyfriend. It’s really odd.”a PhD is a 5-8 year commitment, then another 1-2 years of postdoc. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/07/21 08:56 PM |
| 132 | “Only one of them has a boyfriend and [the others are] all really attractive, fun girls, clever, educated, and can’t find a boyfriend. It’s really odd.”they should talk to educated men about this. being educated isn't enough. you also have to have a stable, well paying, prestigious career. but that isn't enough either. you have to be tall, athletic, handsome, good personality. and that's just to get an unremarkable woman. That's why the author can't find single men. it's not worth competing in that environment. The author makes it sound like educated, attractive, kind women are throwing themselves at any guy with a BA and that's not remotely tr… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/07/21 08:06 PM |
| 2 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?yes, being a beta provider is not a good life. almost every guy I know who picked that relationship ended up being cheated on, cheating, being resented, getting divorced, being disrespected, etc. not many ended up happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/21 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Women: where are all the good men? Also women: it's okay to dump good men for no good reason.it also was refreshingly honest about the wall towards the end | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 16/07/21 12:43 AM |
| 1 | Women: where are all the good men? Also women: it's okay to dump good men for no good reason.the author references Cheryl strayed in the article. What wasn't mentioned (I've read strayed's biography) is that her biological father was very abusive, selfish and I believe abandoned them. I'm sure that played a big role in the decisions Cheryl made, but it kind of reinforces that people with bad parents tend to grow up into adults who have serious trouble settling down into healthy relationships. I wouldn't take advice on healthy relationships from someone coping with a traumatic childhood.… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 16/07/21 12:37 AM |
| 6 | Inspin single mom is eaten alive with loneliness and sadnesssounds like post partum depression and trouble bonding with the child. I hope she gets help for it. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/07/21 05:07 PM |
| 39 | The ex stripper, turned sugar baby tried to play her sugar daddy. So he dumped her, stopped paying for her stuff, placed charges on her and left her homeless. And now she is losing everything she owns and her life is ruined.also she resisted arrest and got injured | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/07/21 12:04 AM |
| 7 | Men are more likely to agree in what women are attractive, while women are more likely to disagree in what men are attractiveI've noticed this too. taller girls just want someone taller than them. it's the shorter girl's who value being 6' or more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/21 06:24 PM |
| 11 | Mad her boundaries got respectedShe's trying to get him under her thumb. She wants him as a desperate beta orbiter who is obsessed with her and backup guy, but after 2 months of trying to turn him into that, instead he walked away without fighting for her. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 06/07/21 03:26 PM |
| 10 | What are going to be the biggest problems and challenges for generation z?climate change, income inequality, fascism, death of the middle class, oligarchy, resource depletion, runaway AI. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 05:30 AM |
| 10 | Long time lurker and big fan of this sub. Decided it’s time to contribute and share the gems from my area. It was hard to pick the most appropriate flair for this!violent and abusive enough to get in trouble with the law | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 30/06/21 05:17 AM |
| 7 | What are some signs a woman is 'settling' for a man?she loses interest in sexual and non sexual intimacy after they have a kid together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Is it ever okay to tell a very unattractive man to focus on something else besides wanting to date? (Genuine)Why can't a man in the bottom 20% meet a woman in the bottom 20%? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 02:04 AM |
| 4 | Advice for the women out there: No, men are not on dating apps for sex only, you are simply matching with guys way out of your leagueMy impression is Japan has very strict gender roles and its mens way of rejecting those roles. Basically pursuing a less masculine, less competitive life and focus more on leisure, friends, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/21 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Advice for the women out there: No, men are not on dating apps for sex only, you are simply matching with guys way out of your leagueTo the degree that those guys exist, they end up forming LTRs with the top 1% of women. They'll fuck downwards, but won't invest or commit to women in the bottom 99%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/21 12:15 AM |
| 4 | Advice for the women out there: No, men are not on dating apps for sex only, you are simply matching with guys way out of your leagueIts a Japanese term for a man who has pretty much checked out of the rat race (chasing women, chasing careers, chasing money) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/21 12:14 AM |
| 5 | “I do not believe in ‘hook ups’ anymore” is a weird way to say “I already played the game, and I lost”translation: I was never able to catch my dream guy with sex, now I've got a kid and baggage. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/06/21 12:08 AM |
| 1 | Any reason women seem to care about some forms of status more than othersYeah thats a good point. I remember someone posting how in China the construction workers all have male model bodies but they can't get women because the women want money and good careers rather than good looks in the men they pick. It has to do with environmental threats too. In environments where there are more pathogens, women prefer good looks since good looks signify health and a strong immune system. In areas of poverty women seem to value money more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/21 04:07 PM |
| 2 | Any reason women seem to care about some forms of status more than othersYour entire post history is female dating strategy and purple pill debate, nice try though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/21 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?supply and demand. There was a book that looked at environments where there was a gender imbalance. Certain liberal arts colleges had more women than men, certain engineering colleges had more men than women. Some religious subgroups also had gender imbalances. In the male majority colleges, the men are more chivalrous, sex is put off until later in the relationship, males invest more in women, people are more monogamous. In female majority colleges, men are less protective of women, sex happens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 06:06 AM |
| 15 | Any deputies willing to step up and rescue them?Its common, most men don't really understand mating strategies or the tactics the genders use to reach their goals (usually at the expense of the other gender). | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/06/21 05:58 AM |
| 0 | Would men having higher standards actually *work*?what does work is skewing the gender ratios. in college communities where women make up 60% of students, the male sexual strategy is used more. in places where women are the minority, the female sexual strategy becomes the commonly used one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 05:41 PM |
| – | What are Your Physical Deal Breakers in Guys ?It has to do with immune system compatibility and pheromones. People whose immune systems are different from yours smell better because the offspring you will produce will be healthier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/21 03:33 AM |
| – | How many of the men complaining about the dating scene are actually worthy of dating?I think this is accurate. if 90% of people aren't good enough for you, then you need to be in the top 10% yourself to attract the other top 10%. things were different before OLD and smartphones | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/21 07:22 PM |
| 17 | Women, why is being "too nice" a thing, and why are a lot of you attracted to toxic behaviour?well put. It's tied to trauma, abuse and low self esteem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/21 10:32 PM |
| 5 | Single mother divorcee can't ""find"" (match*) good guys on dating sites (quelle surprise). So where are they? Must be somewhere else!from what I've seen, the only couples who ended up happy are ones where both people had good personalities going into the relationship. that's not easy to find anymore. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/06/21 07:29 PM |
| 6 | Single mother divorcee can't ""find"" (match*) good guys on dating sites (quelle surprise). So where are they? Must be somewhere else!yeah, wouldn't be surprised if she cheated on her husband and blamed him. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/06/21 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Single mother divorcee can't ""find"" (match*) good guys on dating sites (quelle surprise). So where are they? Must be somewhere else!I liked how she was upset at the guy who prioritized his daughter and the kitten she found over her, like he was a bad person for valuing his daughter more than some random date. huge red flag | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/06/21 07:23 PM |
| 1 | Thoughts about taking the dive and dating a hot bailout.agreed, I've seen beta providers get stuck with an 'accidental' kid, now it's 18 years of child support with a selfish, disrespectful partner. her real personality will come out once you're trapped. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/06/21 07:17 PM |
| 8 | Those expectations tho lolhaving known these women irl, what happens is their standards go up so much that the men they feel are in their league are actually elite men who can do much better than them. then they get mad because the men they want commitment from won't commit after the p&d | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 20/06/21 07:13 PM |
| 5 | Alpha widow laments feeling single (because sexually unfulfilled) while in a committed relationship. She can't be satisfied with a good man that provides her with commitment (and love) because she has been broken by the 50+ cocks she had on the carousel...and that one that got away.AB, if he is ready to settle down, is busy pursing younger, saner, prettier, more emotionally healthy women. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/06/21 06:11 PM |
| 10 | Alpha widow laments feeling single (because sexually unfulfilled) while in a committed relationship. She can't be satisfied with a good man that provides her with commitment (and love) because she has been broken by the 50+ cocks she had on the carousel...and that one that got away.it's good both men walked away. there's no happy ending for them. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/06/21 06:10 PM |
| 6 | Alpha widow laments feeling single (because sexually unfulfilled) while in a committed relationship. She can't be satisfied with a good man that provides her with commitment (and love) because she has been broken by the 50+ cocks she had on the carousel...and that one that got away.God damn. she is going to ruin that guy mentally and emotionally. after they break up he may be too damaged to build a healthy relationship with a decent woman who has her act together. I hope he runs and forgives himself for falling for her. she will destroy him if he let's her. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/06/21 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Most single mothers would rather marry a single childless man than a single father. The opposite is untrue. I think these are the reasons that justifies why single childless men should not marry single mothers...do you consider yourself above average looking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 12:30 AM |
| 4 | Most single mothers would rather marry a single childless man than a single father. The opposite is untrue. I think these are the reasons that justifies why single childless men should not marry single mothers...they want all the money and attention devoted to themselves and their own kids. they don't want it going to the man's kids or his ex gf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 12:28 AM |
| – | Experiment where women rate men in a lineup, then explain their reasoning.I assume it was meant how women don't like being judged for their weight and will shame men who do that, but will openly judge men for their height. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/21 12:48 AM |
| 4 | We have an self proclaimed "confident,sexy, independent," hispanic, single mother who only wants "big tall sexy black man or a big tall sexy Country man!!" ..... And you better be a gentleman otherwise she will put you in your place. Make a line boys.Just leave your wallet in her mailbox. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/06/21 03:56 PM |
| 1 | What is the female equivalent of "male thirst"?The pick me girl who tries to sound like the best option on the market by playing up her personality as the best on the market (because her appearance isn't the best on the market). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 06:04 AM |
| 0 | Do you feel burdened by the protector/provider gender role and the social expectation to embody it?I get the impression women who are more likely to behave that way are either bitter, used up single moms or women who wildly inflate their SMV due to simping. Either way, they'll cheat on you and then blame you for it eventually. Nott worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 06:00 AM |
| 2 | Do you feel burdened by the protector/provider gender role and the social expectation to embody it?And I'm so fucking bored of all the spoiled woman with inflated SMW, that act like I was created to take care of them, I relate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Do you feel burdened by the protector/provider gender role and the social expectation to embody it?Yes but not as much as my male ancestors did. I have a comfortable office job. I don't have to work on a farm or a factory destroying my body 12 hours a day. I also don't have to worry about being conscripted into a war. I don't have to constantly get into fights with other men who are trying to hurt me or steal from me either. My ancestors had to do these things to protect their families. But even with that, yeah I still find it odious the way some women can just act entitled to men's resources… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 05:52 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All] Is Online Dating a Scam?For the most part it is, at least for men. For men OLD generally only works if you're in the top 10% regarding looks, or really thirsty and willing to hit on anything, or if you're just really good at it (you have the right photos, message the right people, say the right things, and are persistent). But for most men its a scam. It doesn't seem to work for women either though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 05:46 AM |
| 9 | only a real man takes care of her kids while foregoing his ownMale Thirst has caused a lot of women to wildly overvalue their SMV/RMV | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 15/06/21 04:46 AM |
| 4 | If you’re lucky, you can pay child support for someone else’s kidIt means she made bad decisions now she wants a man to 'step up' and clean up the mess. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/06/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | Is Porn a Cause of, or a Symptom of, the Rising Number of Virgin/Sexless Men?https://www.sciencefriday.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/gender-differences-in-receptivity-to-sexual-offers.pdf https://contexts.org/blog/an-unequal-distribution-of-partners-gays-versus-straights/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17599267/ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Is Porn a Cause of, or a Symptom of, the Rising Number of Virgin/Sexless Men?I think part of it (aside from the fact that men crave variety) is that if a man isn't emotionally into a woman he loses interest in her sexually after the novelty has worn off. But I don't know if that was a factor in the situations you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 12:31 AM |
| 1 | Is Porn a Cause of, or a Symptom of, the Rising Number of Virgin/Sexless Men?Citation needed Among heterosexual men, heterosexual women, and lesbian women the lifetime number of partners is roughly the same, roughly in the 3-10 range. The reason is that women are the gatekeepers for mating in these dynamics. For gay men, the lifetime number of partners is far higher. 3 digits isn't uncommon. Due to evolution, men can fulfill their sexual strategy by mating with a large number of different women. A man who has 100 kids by 100 women with 0 paternal investment has better ge… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:53 PM |
| 1 | Is Porn a Cause of, or a Symptom of, the Rising Number of Virgin/Sexless Men?I think thats a lot more common than most people will admit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:50 PM |
| 2 | Experiment where women rate men in a lineup, then explain their reasoning.How tall are you then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:40 PM |
| 9 | Experiment where women rate men in a lineup, then explain their reasoning.They put a bunch of men in the lineup, including an extremely short man about 5' and one 5'3. They asked the women to evaluate the men for attractiveness. Even when they said the short guy was a surgeon, a champion athlete, a multi millionaire, a gourmet cook, a best selling author, etc the women didn't want him. They preferred the tall men who worked as teachers or were unemployed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:19 PM |
| 5 | Experiment where women rate men in a lineup, then explain their reasoning.self confidence, good hygiene and good clothes count for far more than height, face, body, career, income and status.........../s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:17 PM |
| 3 | The only men getting consistent action are men with no/ loose standardsIf you're in the top echelons of men you can have whatever standards you want and get lots of sex and options. If you're an average man, you can (probably) get a lot of sex if you're willing to do it with women who are 1-3s or if you're willing to be with slutty, damaged women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:08 PM |
| 3 | He's perfect... But I gets no tingles 😢I hope that guy gets the hell away from her and finds someone who doesn't have the baggage she does. He probably wants a wife, this woman is busy working through her childhood traumas. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/06/21 04:45 PM |
| 2 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityWhats fundamentally important is a wide range of highly trained, highly educated people in this field disagree with you and they have more credibility and knowledge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:35 AM |
| 1 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityhttps://interpersona.psychopen.eu/index.php/interpersona/article/view/3375/html Social-personality psychologists have studied mate preferences for decades (Buss, 1989; Eagly, 1987; Li et al., 2002; Sprecher, Sullivan, & Hatfield, 1994; Wiederman & Dubois, 1998). Importantly, by making the distinction between long- and short-term mating we provide some unique insights. By running separate factor analyses, we were able to show that not only did the content of mate preferences differ by mating cont… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:32 AM |
| 3 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityhttps://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007%2F978-3-319-16999-6_5-1#:~:text=Evidence%20reveals%20that%20men's%20preferences,pleasant%20personality%20traits%20take%20priority | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Hot/Average/Ugly men and PerceptionI think its more about ratios, a waist 75% the size of your shoulders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 04:09 AM |
| 1 | Bloomberg - Fewer Young Men Are in the Labor Force. More Are Living at Home For 25- to 34-year-olds, the two trends add up to a failure to launch.Yes but when they said 'pain medication' are they talking about opiates or NSAIDs? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 02:54 AM |
| 37 | Change my CMV: I think RedPill is correct about women's sexualityStudiies on mating have found that long term and short term mating preferences are different. For short term mating, men like slutty, insecure, damaged women. But they don't want them for long term mating (a wife and mother). For short term mating women like dark triad, muscular bad boys. But for long term mating those things can count against you. The traits women look for in a ONS are different from what they look for in a husband and father. You're right that TRP knows what women want, but mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 02:47 AM |
| 6 | "I've never been on a real date before", but she has a kid already? Apparently, a date is not required to sleep with her, and go raw and produce an offspring. You don't need to date her for that. The proof is right there. And she has the nerve to ask if real men exist, while she is a single mother?she means nobody has spent money on her when hanging out with her. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 12/06/21 08:18 PM |
| 2 | Why do people insist that only women postpone having kids when many women risk becoming single mothers to have kids?Those are two different groups of women (women who end up as single mothers and women who put of having kids until later) who can generally be separated by socioeconomic status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 03:41 PM |
| 7 | I hate pretty wymyns! I hate that I need to offer value to a man! Where are all the men who will accept my lame ass and love me UNCONDITIONALLY forever and ever, amen!!! 😠😤😡🤬😥it's my first time seeing it. I don't doubt it but that guy is probably in the top 1% in SMV | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/06/21 11:37 PM |
| 8 | I hate pretty wymyns! I hate that I need to offer value to a man! Where are all the men who will accept my lame ass and love me UNCONDITIONALLY forever and ever, amen!!! 😠😤😡🤬😥average, non hot women date all the time. they just date average, non hot guys | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/06/21 11:34 PM |
| 1 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momto reiterate, I've known women who were messier than me and I never entered their life and said 'things will now be done according to my standards'. if the partner consented to that that is one thing, but it sounds like you guys just assume it's the man's job to act how you feel he should act even though he is a self sufficient adult who was perfectly capable of taking care of himself before he met you, even if he had different standards than you do. If a man was cooking, cleaning, doing laundry… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 10:22 PM |
| 2 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momI've met women who don't do many of these things. I still don't think of them as infants who I have the right to tell what to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 05:18 AM |
| 4 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momI've known women who left their dirty clothes on the floor. It never made me think they weren't adults or made me think I had the right to make their decisions for them without asking their consent before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 05:15 AM |
| 3 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momThese men were functional, independent adults long before they met a woman who insisted he do these things to her standards though. Which again, I don't get it. Lots and lots of men work, pay their bills, live independently w/o doing these things to another person's standards. Then a woman enters their life and feels she can implement demands on him that he didn't have before, and criticize him for not meeting those unsolicited demands. It still doesn't make sense. If a woman was capable of bein… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 05:13 AM |
| -3 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momWhether it's getting finances together, working on a career, mentally maturing, etc. When woman say this, it's usually because they are nagging their boyfriend to get their shit together in one way or another, and in my experience, only after they've already been together for some time. I'm in college and the usual scenario I've seen is girlfriends nagging their boyfriend to quit playing as many video games, get their grades up, etc. Women sometimes just want men to care as much as they do about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 04:15 AM |
| 4 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momA person can be a functional adult w/o cleaning on your timetable or doing it to different standards than you have. Again, some of you are claiming that unless a man does what you want on your timetable to your standards, he isn't an adult. Who told you that? Who decided you would be the arbiters of these things, and did the men you are with agree to that dynamic? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 04:02 AM |
| -3 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's mominfantilizing someone who didn't ask to be infantilized is toxic as hell. My issue is why do so many women feel they have the right to do it in this thread and other places and then act like the men are the bad guys for not going along with their wives unsolicited demands? I still don't get it. I agree, if there is a disagreement about something that feels like a major issue, then either live without it or leave. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 04:00 AM |
| 3 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momtake care of your looks so men find you desirable and hopefully not as a gold digging burden. Eh, the average woman has a 39" waist and is pretty messy herself. Ask a janitor which gender has the messier bathroom. I'm not sure who thinks women are these evolved superior creatures. In order to keep this man sexually attractive to you and not live in squalor, you have to either do all the cleaning he won't do or ask him to over and over. You have to squabble about him doing a shit job at it or jus… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 03:53 AM |
| 5 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momI've met women who were far messier than I was, I never felt it was my duty to tell them how to live, or demand they follow my standards of cleanliness. Again, all you're saying is that when you enter a mans life, it is his job to match your style and preferences, and you have a right to constantly criticize him if he doesn't. As a man who has dated I didn't feel the urge to treat women I dated like that. If I met a woman who was 180 pounds and I wanted someone who was 140, I wouldn't constantly… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 03:48 AM |
| 3 | What do women mean when they say that they feel like their boyfriend's momBut this is kind of a circular argument. Who made the woman the boss who assigns jobs, then gets disappointed when the person she is with doesn't recognize her self ascribed authority? A woman who gets upset that she has to assign jobs and feels like a mom assumes it is her SO's duty to act how/when she wants him to, to do things on her timetable. Again, if the partner didn't agree to any of this I'm still confused. It would be like if a man just decided one day his SO had to be 140 pounds, and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 02:32 AM |
| 2 | How much does sexlessness among men have to rise for society to stop functioning?Society is pretty resilient and can survive a lot. What'll happen is that women will all have Chad and Tyrones kids, and/or they'll have kids from sperm donors. Many men will just pick porn, sexbots, videogames and leanfire since they feel locked out of families. But I don't think it'll ever be a gigantic % of men, probably 20-30% at most. Lots of women will still prefer monogamy with an average guy over sharing Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Women should plan for a future without a partner.I know other men who are in my position, who are also single or just date fat chicks because those are the only girls they can get. A couple of them are under 6 feet sure, but they work for fortune 250 companies and have their shit together. Thats the problem many women won't admit because it shows they're part of the dysfunction and the failures of the current system. A lot of below average women think they're good catches and are drowning in thirsty men, now they can't commit and guys 'in thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 04:33 AM |
| 3 | Women should plan for a future without a partner."Men focusing on their best interests would be bad for women" no the fuck it wouldn't. Yeah it would. Working long hours in dangerous jobs, going to die in unnecessary wars, spending all your money to take care of other people, avoiding enjoyable leisure activities (like video gaming) to earn money or do 'productive' activities like yardwork instead. Having to balance being emotionally open with stoic, doing it just exactly how a woman wants so she doesn't think you're too emotionally unavailabl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 04:19 AM |
| 2 | Women should plan for a future without a partner.Other than the advent of streaming porn (2006) no variable related to youthful ED has appreciably changed in the last 10-20 years (smoking rates are down, drug use is steady, obesity rates in males 20-40 up only 4% since 1999 – see this review of the literature). This is false though, testosterone levels have been declining for years. This could also explain the rise in ED. https://www.urologytimes.com/view/testosterone-levels-show-steady-decrease-among-young-us-men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 04:13 AM |
| 4 | Women should plan for a future without a partner.These are all valid arguments, but there are just as valid arguments from the male side of things. As a man, you have to be above average for average and below average women to think you are 'good enough'. Single mothers with debt and bad personalities think they deserve a man in the top brackets. Women who don't bring much value to the table write off 90%+ of men as 'not good enough'. Online dating for men consists of chasing below average women with above average demands much of the time. Even… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 04:06 AM |
| 1 | Considering that women are more easily susceptible to mass propaganda, how much do you think is it possible to manipulate their sexual behaviors?last I checked it wasn't women who were the majority who supported conspiracy theory based political movements | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 06:15 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Straight men have it harder in dating than womencan you define the female imperative? I've always felt that means being with the best man you can reasonably get who is committed and invests in you emotionally, financially and with his time. nice flair | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 06:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Straight men have it harder in dating than womenagreed, if you want the top 5% then you'll have to be in the top 5% yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 06:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismyup. men still have to be hard working, ambitious, selfless, strong, financially successful, tall. failure to do so results in ridicule. however if women reject traditional gender roles that's considered fine. men are still expected to behave in ways that are useful to women and face ridicule for not doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/21 06:34 PM |
| 7 | Beware that Alpha Widows who want you to "be patient" will often use their abused past as the reason to keep saying that they're "not in the mood" or "not as sexual like I used to be", while still expecting you to provide emotional/financial stability for her and her kids.came here to post that. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 31/05/21 05:22 PM |
| 2 | Is the primary sexual attractiveness for a woman literally "Dont be fat"?it's not about the fat, it's about ratios and proportions. a 200 lb woman can be attractive if her hips and breasts are a about 40% bigger than her waist. But yes, body ratios and age are the primary reason for physical attractiveness in women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Who are some female celebrities you find to be absolutely stunning?Riley Voelkel Charlize Theron | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Who are some female celebrities you find to be absolutely stunning?she looked really good in that college dancing videos too. But yes her personality adds to her attractiveness | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 10:16 PM |
| 5 | Just short of asking the big question😂🤡the guy of her dreams exist and may even be single. but he has high standards too. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 27/05/21 04:30 PM |
| 1 | I’m confused- what makes women’s standards unreasonable?it's unreasonable when average women want a man in the top 20% of everything. height, income, education, personality, etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/05/21 04:02 PM |
| 2 | Whats the reality of being an older guy trying to date younger women?generally it's either a sugar daddy situation, or the girl has trauma and is into BDSM. | /r/ExRedPill | 27/05/21 04:21 AM |
| 27 | Speaks for itselfthat term should include people who wear makeup, Spanx or push up bras. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 22/05/21 10:49 PM |
| 1 | AF/BB is mostly the same guy, Younger/OlderYup, the divorce rate for college educated women vs high school after 20 years of marriage is like 20% vs 60%. The rates of single parenthood are also much lower for educated women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 04:22 PM |
| 6 | AF/BB is mostly the same guy, Younger/OlderWhere I grew up didn't have generational wealth, where I grew up AF were guys who were good at sports (but not good enough to get into college on a scholarship), good looking, popular, heavily into drugs, bad boys, etc. But yeah I agree with you, in places with generational wealth there are going to be Chads who are from rich families who grow up and become doctors and businessmen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 03:30 AM |
| 15 | AF/BB is mostly the same guy, Younger/OlderThis hasn't been my experience. AF = good looking bad boys in their teens and 20s. Their lives tend to crash and burn after their mid 20s. Jail, substance abuse issues, strained relationships with their kids, dead end jobs, money problems, other forms of dysfunction are common as they get older. Not for all of them, but a lot of them. BB = the invisible guy who kept his nose to the grindstone in his teens and 20s, has been invisible to most women for most of his life, and who is financially stab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 03:20 AM |
| 8 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”I think you're projecting your own social circle onto everyone. a woman's education is one of the best predictors of whether she will divorce or be a single parent. SES is also a good predictor of the rates of child abuse in the home. Also life is expensive. daycare, mortgages, health care, student loans, retirement savings etc aren't easy to meet on one income anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 06:35 PM |
| 10 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”or he isn't looking for anything other than one night stand. any guy looking for anything more serious than a fling cares deeply about a woman's character, education, finances, personality, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 04:54 PM |
| 1 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)I am fat and muscular. in my experience, having a V shaped torso helped me quite a bit. but being tall or muscular without it doesn't get you much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 05:41 PM |
| 6 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)I must be doing it wrong. when I have good posture and am wearing shoes I'm 6'2, and I don't think it's helped me much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 05:21 PM |
| 10 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)people can be terrible judges of their own SMV. high quality people can think they're low quality, low quality people can think they're high quality. self esteem and how much validation you get can warp self perception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 04:28 PM |
| 1 | RedPill stole my years of loveplease do it sounds interesting | /r/ExRedPill | 06/05/21 11:17 PM |
| 52 | Must make 6 figures, first born and only children need not applyimagine losing your job and being married to her. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 05/05/21 01:53 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commityeah it sucks, and it's another issue with red pill philosophy. red pill works, but it attracts dysfunctional mates and repels healthy, well adjusted ones. it self selects for low RMV mates. But yeah I think it's a symptom of low self worth and feeling like If you aren't having to constantly earn your partners love which is hanging by a thread, then something feels wrong about the relationship. it feels too boring. life is shitty in a lot of ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 05:13 PM |
| 7 | CMV: Men are more into commitment than women, that's why they can't find men to commitI wonder if it's more of a self worth issue rather than a gender issue. My impression is people with abandonment issues or low self worth feel they have to 'earn' the affections of a mate, and a mate that is too agreeable or accommodating it feels like they aren't enough of a challenge. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/05/21 04:53 PM |
| 2 | Women are the biggest body shamers of womenwomen are competing to tear each other down to win over men. It's evolution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/05/21 09:20 PM |
| 16 | My kings Aiden and Jayden come firstmake sure you don't end up with an 'accidental' pregnancy when you do that. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 02/05/21 01:13 AM |
| 6 | Do you think we overanalyze sex relations too much?power and popularity are various forms of resources. power, influence, money, fame etc are all forms of capital and all can increase your ability to provide for and protect a family. they can also give your kids a head start and leg up in life. the children of the rich, powerful and influential end up with better lives than the children of nobodies. Also physicality is a sign of good health and a sign the kids will be healthy and attractive too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/21 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Would you agree with the idea that people who have more to offer to a partner, might also tend to drift towards more extreme dating dynamics?In my experience, men who have a lot to offer women generally follow the following dating strategy: They have a wife and children they are devoted to, but they also have an endless string of short term flings on the side. Mistresses, one night stands, sometimes prostitutes, etc. This seems to fulfill all of a man's sexual desires. He wants a wife and children he can be devoted to and connect with emotionally, a family to come home to. But he also gets to spread his seed and have sex with hundred… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/21 03:59 AM |
| 18 | Do you think we overanalyze sex relations too much?I think for men, the issue is thinking that the right knowledge, communication skills, game, etc. can compensate for a lack of attractive and desirable features. At the end of the day, women generally want the 4 P's. A guy who signals he would be a good protector, provider, parent, partner. For the most part thats what women look for, and most physical and non-physical things they look for in a mate come back to those 4 things in one way or another. However a lot of guys seem to think that you c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/21 03:51 AM |
| 1 | What are valid arguments for TRP and TBP?what do you mean by red pill vibe? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/04/21 02:03 AM |
| 1 | What do men mean when they say they want sympathy for their dating issues?I'll give you a couple examples I've seen as a man both in my personal life and I've seen women responding to other men. For one, when men describe the reality of online dating, women many times don't believe them. If a man says 'unless you're in the best looking 10% of men, OLD is mostly a waste of time'. Women reject that and try to convince men they're wrong, even if multiple men tell them the same thing. The women can't fathom that men have their own reality. I think women realize if the bot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Is there really a formula for attraction, or is it just overconfident people blowing smoke?I'd recommend you read some evolutionary psychology, David Buss is a good resource on this subject. Yeah there are traits that are generally considered attractive for both genders. Physical and psychological. But its gets complicated. Because there is both short term and long term mating. The pills call it red vs blue pill, but its really short term vs long term mating strategies (long term = find someone who would make a good partner to raise a family with. Short term = find someone fun/dangero… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/04/21 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Average women won't reject a man just because he's a bit chubbydefine a bit chubby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 09:44 PM |
| 3 | How is not wanting to date an unemployed man any different than men not wanting to date a fat woman?lots of women do bitterly say 'I'm the same person I was back when you wouldn't have looked twice at me' after their SMV dramatically increases due to things like weight loss. lots of them. I'm not sure I understand ops argument. it's not a gendered thing, it's feeling like people don't care about you or have an interest in you as a human being, they just care about your waist size or wallet size. people act like you aren't valuable to them as a human being unless you can do something for them. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/04/21 09:40 PM |
| 2 | If being poor/low income is what makes a man a loser in women's eyes, is there a singular (near) universal thing that makes women a loser and undatable in men's eye's?a single mother lowers a woman's appeal the same way unemployment lowers a man's appeal. Lots of them still date, it's just harder | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 10:42 PM |
| 1 | If being poor/low income is what makes a man a loser in women's eyes, is there a singular (near) universal thing that makes women a loser and undatable in men's eye's?the money can be nice too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 10:41 PM |
| 2 | Men and women do not get each other's problemsI disagree then. Relationships are different from investment, there are lots of relationships where the men don't do anything for the woman. Women want a sustainable and reliable investment from men to protect them, provide for them (and the offspring) and invest in them. Not all relationships have that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 05:07 AM |
| 4 | Men and women do not get each other's problemsYes, "Women are gatekeepers of sex, men are gatekeepers of relationships.", yes. Men are the gatekeepers of investment and protection. Women want men to self sacrifice to protect them and invest in them and their children emotionally, financially and with time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 05:03 AM |
| 27 | Men and women do not get each other's problemsAlso I've never really had sympathy for women who say '99% of men who hit on me are garbage'. Ok, fine. But of that remaining 1% of men, what makes you assume you're in 'their' 1% bracket? What makes you so sure that those 1% of men view you at LTR material they want to commit to and invest in? If you assume 95% of people are garbage, what makes you think the 5% you consider desirable lump you into their 5%, instead of into their '95% are garbage' bin? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 05:00 AM |
| 1 | What is most important for a man to be physically attractive?Just wear a corset and you can still eat at mcdonalds. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 04:53 AM |
| 4 | What is most important for a man to be physically attractive?I'm tall and broad shouldered. I don't think it matters w/o a V shaped torso. The way women responded when I had a V shaped torso was totally different than how they respond when you are tall and broad shouldered with a bigger waist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/04/21 04:45 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All]How often do you see ugly people of the opposite gender?most people aren't ugly, just not attractive. usually it takes a terrible personality to make someone ugly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/21 07:15 PM |
| 2 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?what is pink pilled? is that red pill for women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/21 06:54 PM |
| 1 | How can so many women be this delusional about men past the age of 30?in general, men are less demanding in relationships so yes I think women want men more than the opposite direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/21 06:52 PM |
| 10 | As women outpace men in college degrees, will blue collar men still stand a chance in the dating market?no it won't, the fuck ups will keep having 3-5 kids each. idiocracy here we go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 03:51 AM |
| 11 | As women outpace men in college degrees, will blue collar men still stand a chance in the dating market?it's already happening. women in their 30s who can't find a man 'good enough for them'. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/21 03:44 AM |
| 2 | Post-Wall Single Mother is Done with the Badboys. Now She Wants a Guy With His “Shit Together”. Step Right Up, Guys. BTW, Her Baby Daddys are Drug Addicts, so Stay Frostyno it means selling amway to your Facebook friends | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/04/21 10:11 PM |
| 1 | BINGO!!brutally honest = extremely rude with no tact or respect, but if anyone talks to me the way I talk to them, watch out | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/04/21 10:09 PM |
| 13 | Accuratenever fall in love with a traumatized psycho | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 24/04/21 10:00 PM |
| 2 | Is it possible for amazing personalties in men to override looks?My understanding of a study of women and their moms, a man's personality only matters if he has enough SMV for the woman to see him as a sexual creature. If you lack that, personality doesn't matter. It goes in the opposite direction too. A woman can have an amazing personality but if she doesn't have enough SMV for you to view her as a sexual being, it doesn't matter. At the end of the day we're all unconsciously calculating whether someone is a sexual creature or not. People generally aren't c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/21 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Most moderm women seem to think that the bar is set extremely low for men. What do you guys think?Thats fair. IRL attention varies dramatically based on things like where you live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Most moderm women seem to think that the bar is set extremely low for men. What do you guys think?You are overestimating the attention that a really average girls gets. Average women are not attractive nor showered in attention. Hell, I know attractive women who don't get nearly that type of attention. Most people, the vast majority, don't have legions of prospective partners beating down their doors for a chance at them, lmao. Are you talking about IRL attention or online attention? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Most moderm women seem to think that the bar is set extremely low for men. What do you guys think?If you want to date educated UMC+ girls, yea, the bar is much higher, but it's still not impossible to achieve the things they require (which is to have a promising career, be equally educated, have a good sense of style, etc.) Thats fair, because you're saying women who are UMC, educated and look decent want men who are the same. However with men on average having less education than women, I'm sure that does make it difficult in general. I think women have 50% more college degrees than men. Bu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:33 PM |
| 6 | Most moderm women seem to think that the bar is set extremely low for men. What do you guys think?Can you tell whats the difference are compared to the older days I can only speak for myself, but things got a lot harder around the time smartphones came out. Before around 2010 or so, women were more open to being approached and more appreciative. That has been my experience. Smartphones opened up the idea of endless validation and the BBD always being around the corner. Supposedly OLD used to work in the 90s, before every woman got 100 replies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:31 PM |
| 21 | Most moderm women seem to think that the bar is set extremely low for men. What do you guys think?It feels like the opposite. In the past you just had to be a halfway emotionally stable person with a passable income. Now you need an above average income, above average height, above average education, great personality, etc and thats just to get your foot in the door with average women. Also 'above average' is not as huge as people think. A college degree, a 70k job and 6' are all above average. Lots of women will mock you for thinking those things help with women, because even thats not enou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Do women underestimate the strength of smaller men?Thats true, but its also because if you're tall thats a sign that you had a childhood full of nutrition and freedom from parasites (disease and malnutrition stunt your growth, which is why men were only about 5'5 on average before the industrial revolution). However I"ve never understood why height isn't attractive in women if thats the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:16 PM |
| 6 | Do women underestimate the strength of smaller men?By gender we are combat machines. This 100%. Men are designed by evolution to be better athletes because we are expendable. Its nature and ignoring it won't make it go away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:14 PM |
| 6 | Do women underestimate the strength of smaller men?I'm guessing they think because they're women that men won't fight back, and it gives them a swollen head. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:12 PM |
| 1 | Do women underestimate the strength of smaller men?https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/jappl.2000.89.1.81 We employed a whole body magnetic resonance imaging protocol to examine the influence of age, gender, body weight, and height on skeletal muscle (SM) mass and distribution in a large and heterogeneous sample of 468 men and women. Men had significantly (P < 0.001) more SM in comparison to women in both absolute terms (33.0 vs. 21.0 kg) and relative to body mass (38.4 vs. 30.6% Even if a man weighs the same as a woman, his body is… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Do women underestimate the strength of smaller men?Andy Kaufman FTW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uQlB99WCuk&t=1m1s | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 11:04 PM |
| 12 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menIt is. Most forever alone women I've seen have serious mental health issues. Either attachment disorders, or some kind of trauma that makes pair bonding difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 01:48 AM |
| 4 | Social awkwardness, not looks, is the real relationship killer for menMy experience has been the opposite. Since women spend more time on their looks, women generally tend to look better than the men they are with, in general at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 01:47 AM |
| 9 | Are attractive guys actually less creepy?But they usually aren't actively hostile like average/ugly women. Thats because for a truly attractive woman, her attractiveness isn't threatened by an ugly man hitting on her. She still knows she is attractive. However if an ugly girl gets hit on by an ugly guy? In her mind she thinks 'we are looksmatched' and she hates it, she wants a guy better looking than her match so she becomes hostile to the ugly guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/04/21 01:03 AM |
| 1 | What are things men find attractive?For a LTR? Emotional stability. A good ability to handle stress. Good communication skills. Someone I can have good conversations with. Someone who has a lot of compassion for others. Intelligence. Education. Friendliness. Good sense of humor (laughs at my jokes and can make me laugh). Financial stability. Shares my financial goals. Lets me be vulnerable or flawed w/o using it against me or losing interest in me. Someone who understands caregiving and emotional support goes both ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 12:10 AM |
| 8 | Do stats show that women more difficult to have as Long term partners than men?Because it doesn't explain why the lesbian divorce rate is 2x the gay male divorce rate. You sound like you're trying to blame the man. Its just that women have higher standards and are more demanding, which fits into what OP is asking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/04/21 12:07 AM |
| 22 | AskMen post discussionit's also knowing if you slip and fall, the fear that you'll be abandoned rather than helped back up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 07:42 PM |
| 1 | What advantages is your sex believed to have that you feel is of no benefit to you?Getting paid more at work. Yeah men get paid more overall. Thats because men work longer hours at more dangerous jobs, and men pick more lucrative jobs. This issue will always exist because women value men's provider skills in ways that men do not value women's ability to earn money by comparison. Men make up a tiny % of nurses, but they make up about half of nurse anesthesiologists, because that is the highest paying field of nursing. Women will never care about careers and earning money the sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Why is a woman's lack of sexual experience considered attractive but a men's inexperience considered unnatractive?Because women are gatekeepers of procreation. If a woman has sex too easily or with too many people you can't trust that any kids you have with her will be yours, or that she won't cheat in a relationship. Meanwhile if a man has sexual experience it means women have found him desirable enough to have sex with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/04/21 01:52 AM |
| 2 | BINGO!!I love it when you are brutally honest right back at them. they always appreciate that. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 18/04/21 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Isn’t every chad a potential beta bucks ?A lot of the guys who were Chads in their teen years that I grew up with ended up in and out of jail and working low paying blue collar jobs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Jordan peterson said that it's common for women to have affairs with high status men. Is this accurate?It depends on the environmental factors. Studies show that in environments full of disease and parasites, women prefer good looking men (since good looks implies health and a strong immune system, and freedom from disease). In nations with bad poverty women prefer well off men. I can't remember who it was but he was talking about how in China the construction workers all have male model bodies (thin and muscular) but no women want them, because they lack wealth and status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 06:37 PM |
| 1 | What's an advantage that the opposite sex takes for granted?Yes but on the reverse side, the sense of fear that comes from knowing so many people are dependent on you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 06:34 PM |
| 3 | What's an advantage that the opposite sex takes for granted?This applies to both gender and race. Studies show doctors take the concerns of white men more seriously than black people or women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 06:33 PM |
| 2 | What's an advantage that the opposite sex takes for granted?Male sex hormones burn fat, female sex hormones store fat. So theres that too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 06:28 PM |
| 16 | What's an advantage that the opposite sex takes for granted?I agree. A womans flaws are a plus to many men. A man's flaws are at best, something a woman is willing to overlook because of other good traits he has. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 06:27 PM |
| 5 | What's an advantage that the opposite sex takes for granted?I remember when I was in college a female classmate told me how scared she was to walk back to her car in the parking lot at night, and I said 'why would that be scary'. I never had to really worry about that before. I think this video does good job of listing fears women have that men never really have to think about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N34hehRgw9g | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 06:23 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider yourself to be a good catch? Do you think the typical person would consider him/herself lucky to have you as a partner?Just out of curiosity, you claim you are loyal and supportive but you don't understand emotions or friendship and you lack the warm/receptive/caring temperament that men want. You also say you have low disgust but you are repulsed by male attraction bids. Then you say you are healthy but you say you also have autism and chronic illnesses. Do you feel these things can be mutually exclusive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/04/21 03:36 PM |
| 2 | Heated debate on r/pussypassdenied on cheating and violenceyes but that's somewhat consensual violence. We prefer the state have a monopoly on regulated violence over living in a world of warlords and chaos. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/04/21 04:39 PM |
| 1 | What is commonly said by people of your sex on PPD that you feel doesn't represent your personal experience?No, Johnny, there isn't an army of gold diggers out there just waiting to get their paws on your $60K salary, 2012 Camry, $15K 401K, and PS5. You don't need to live life in fear that someone is going to take all your assets. My guess is most of the men who are worried about women using them for money probably don't have that much to begin with. I disagree. I mean yeah 60k isn't rich, but for a single mother on food stamps, that is a much more stable life. Also I think guys are more worried about… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 04:09 AM |
| 1 | What is commonly said by people of your sex on PPD that you feel doesn't represent your personal experience?I've never met a man irl who cared about my N count, tattoos piercings or wildly colored hair. I think some men cared and judged if those things reflected your emotional stability for a LTR, they just didn't say anything. I'm sure lots of guys looked at those things and it made them think of you as more likely to be ONS material but less likely to be LTR material. They just didn't tell you overtly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 04:07 AM |
| 1 | What is commonly said by people of your sex on PPD that you feel doesn't represent your personal experience?That we prefer dadbods etc over a tall, strong and lean young physique. No. It's just that dadbods can be attractive if attached to a person that's already attractive due to chemistry and whatever else. Also, people subconsciously adjust their standards to what's realistically attainable for them. I wonder if the female desire for dad bods is just like you said, an unconscious assessment of the best the woman can do. People like attractive people, but they also like not being abandoned by their … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 04:05 AM |
| 2 | What is commonly said by people of your sex on PPD that you feel doesn't represent your personal experience?When men say that a woman's education isn't important, and no guy wants to fuck a woman's college degree. A woman's education is one of the best predictors on whether she is LTR material or not. The rate of divorce for college educated women is less than half of what it is for women who only finished high school (20% vs 60%). The rates of single motherhood among college educated women is a fraction of the rate for women who drop out of high school. College educated women earn more money, they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 03:47 AM |
| 3 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?True, but I think the fertility rate is something like 1.3 kids per woman or lower in South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, China, Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. I'm not sure if they all share the same cultural attributes or what. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/21 01:48 AM |
| 17 | Did female economic liberation cause the birth rate to decline?however nations with lower levels of income inequality, subsidized daycare, universal Healthcare, free college etc are also seeing low birth rates eastern Europe and rich nations in East Asia are the lowest for births. I'm not sure why those regions are so low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 08:07 PM |
| 0 | If you think the Red Pill doesn’t apply to you as a woman, chances are you are not that physically attractiveit's more that women who possess personality traits that make them lower RMV and more prone to TRP tactics are overall more likely to also end up as lower SES classes. you said it was a proxy for poverty. I don't think it solely comes from her parents SES, but if she is ruled by her emotions, chases pleasure when it causes long term damage, doesn't plan ahead, can't delay gratification, etc then she is on a path both to end up as a TRP example and on a path to end up a struggling lower SES. I sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 06:07 PM |
| 1 | If you think the Red Pill doesn’t apply to you as a woman, chances are you are not that physically attractivehow so | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 02:06 AM |
| 6 | If you think the Red Pill doesn’t apply to you as a woman, chances are you are not that physically attractivethe rural, white, middle class community I grew up in. also what I saw in college and in the lives of those people after college. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 02:00 AM |
| 3 | If you think the Red Pill doesn’t apply to you as a woman, chances are you are not that physically attractiveI'm going based on what I've seen personally, and this was in the same general community | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:50 AM |
| 6 | If you think the Red Pill doesn’t apply to you as a woman, chances are you are not that physically attractivethat and self disciplined, willing to delay gratification, able to control their urges, etc all of which are tied to what SES you end up in | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:42 AM |
| 1 | There's a fair reason as to why men's version of "objectification" is deemed more potentially harmful by "society."ok. I'm saying the bottoms I've met aren't as intimidated as women would be in the same situations, but we probably know different gay people. I think women have an inbuilt fear of being sexually dominated by someone bigger that men don't have unless they've been abused before | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:39 AM |
| 1 | There's a fair reason as to why men's version of "objectification" is deemed more potentially harmful by "society."I don't think you understand what I meant. I mean men are in general less intimidated by physical threats, and do not have the innate fear of being abused that evolution has built into women. also among men I don't think the size difference is as intimidating. possibly because men are naturally more open to violence, I don't know. I wasn't saying gay men are ok with being abused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:34 AM |
| 14 | If you think the Red Pill doesn’t apply to you as a woman, chances are you are not that physically attractiveThats been my experience, yeah. The dumber, more short sighted, trashier, less self disciplined, less able to regulate their emotions and urges, etc a woman is the more likely her life path will follow the one that TRP warns you about. It has nothing to do with how pretty she is. I've seen 4s follow the TRP path and 9s end up in happy, stable marriages. I've also seen 4s end up in happy, stable marriages and 8-9s end up following the TRP path. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:24 AM |
| 2 | There's a fair reason as to why men's version of "objectification" is deemed more potentially harmful by "society."In your experience as a gay man, does size play a role in intimidation when there is a large size discrepancy between people? What about being a top vs bottom? Are smaller bottoms intimidated by larger tops or does the role or physical size of the guy not really factor into it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:21 AM |
| 1 | There's a fair reason as to why men's version of "objectification" is deemed more potentially harmful by "society."Yeah but gay men are more open to the whole having a penis shoved up their ass thing than women are. Also men in general are generally less fearful of physical confrontation (which is why most violent crimes are done by men). The gay men I've known who were bottoms were if anything pretty aggressive when meeting men, they weren't passive and scared. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:15 AM |
| 21 | If you think the Red Pill doesn’t apply to you as a woman, chances are you are not that physically attractiveI'm a guy, but I don't think its accurate. From what I've personally seen, the biggest predictor of whether a woman will act according to TRP expectations is her RMV. Women with low RMV are more likely to engage in TRP tactics (branch swinging, af/bb, multiple kids by multiple dads, etc) higher RMV women generally don't act like this as much. From what I've seen the higher RMV women tend to pursue a guy with the best mix of alpha/beta traits they can get and try to make their relationship with h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:08 AM |
| 0 | There's a fair reason as to why men's version of "objectification" is deemed more potentially harmful by "society."I think men know this because the same heterosexual man would feel uncomfortable if he spent his life warding off being cornered by stronger/more dominant sexually-minded whose only desire is to ram their peen up his ass. Are homosexual men creeped out by this though? If a smaller homosexual man is surrounded by larger homosexual men does he feel intimidated? I dont know the gay community well but I always got the impression that they weren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/21 01:04 AM |
| 1 | I think men here overestimate how much sex means in a relationship and life, when other stressors are involvedJesus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 04:07 AM |
| 1 | I think men here overestimate how much sex means in a relationship and life, when other stressors are involved"men love sex, men will have sex with anything, men always want sex from women they are attracted to" men are also designed by evolution to crave variety. Sex with the same woman 500 times loses its appeal because you can only have kids with her. but sex with 500 women means you can have a hundred kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 04:06 AM |
| 2 | If relationships are more valuable than wealth, then women have the most privilegeYeah, maybe 10-20% of marriages and LTRs are mutually healthy and mutually happy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 04:03 AM |
| 4 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.And sometimes even though you like sitting down with loved ones and having an elaborate meal, sometimes you just want a quick sandwich in peace by yourself. Sometimes food is an opportunity to socialize and connect with people, sometimes its a biological urge you want to quench as quickly as possible by yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/04/21 03:55 AM |
| 1 | What exactly is "pump and dump" and how frequent is it?I think a big factor is when women date too far up and the guy feels he can do it better for a relationship, but the woman has sex to entice him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 09:49 PM |
| 16 | If your man watches porn because he has limited to no access to sex with you, there is a 0% chance that you can pity yourself for the situation you got into.porn is like a sandwich. sex with a partner is like a sit down meal. sometimes you just want a quick sandwich even if you can have a nice sit down dinner instead. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/04/21 09:14 PM |
| 1 | I think the MGTOW movement is not inherently bad if you approach it with maturity.China is undergoing a WGTOW movement, and at root its for the same reasons men are having a MGTOW movement in the west. In China, women have no real protection from domestic violence. Same way that in the west if your wife is abusive, you can be arrested for defending yourself. Also in China, a woman's assets becomes her husbands property when married. A woman can work hard her whole life, pay the bills and pay the mortgage, and it all belongs to her husband when divorced. In China, men usually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 08:21 PM |
| 8 | As a man with low libido, my dating experience is way better than a normal man's.Desperately hungry people will pay $50 for a half eaten bag of chips though. Then that person selling that bag of chips will get an inflated head and think its worth $75. Full people will not participate in artificially inflating the value of food. People whose hunger is so intense they do desperate things will though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 07:22 PM |
| 4 | As a man with low libido, my dating experience is way better than a normal man's.prolactin will reduce it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/04/21 07:21 PM |
| 21 | CMV: Cat ladies and older male bachelors are often not who people thinkin my experience, most lifelong single men and women had trauma, attachment disorders and mental health issues. those seemed to be common threads. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 02:49 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What would be the top three factors that enables a person to get more casual sex than another person?Hangs out around people who engage in tons of casual sex (this one is important) Good looks Good communication skills. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 02:06 AM |
| 1 | Do most men really prefer younger women to women in their age range?From what I've seen, the age gap becomes less important with age. Theres a huge difference in a 28 year old and an 18 year old, vs a 58 and 48 year old together. Generally after your late 20s/early 30s the age gap is much less important because you've done a lot of maturing at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 02:04 AM |
| 1 | Do most men really prefer younger women to women in their age range?To look at yet, but not for serious relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 02:03 AM |
| 1 | My dad always says if a guy is single at 35+, there usually a reason, and it’s usually baggage. How true is this statement?Pretty true. Same for women though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/04/21 01:54 AM |
| 1 | Which pill explains what I noticed on datingoverthirty?men want sex and women want validation/options. each side abandons the other after they get what they want. that's more red pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/21 10:31 PM |
| 4 | Why do (some) women sleep with one guy the day they meet , but waits until commitment with another?1) the one night stand guy isn’t commitment material and they don’t care if he sticks around, they’re just out to have fun. I forget who, but some female comedian once said when talking about guys they have one night stands 'we don't have one night stands with you because we don't respect ourselves. We sleep with you on the first date because we don't respect you.' No idea if thats true or not. A guys SMV will strongly determine how long a woman will make him wait for sex (many women would have … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/21 01:57 AM |
| 6 | Do redpill men have mother issues?https://nextshark.com/neil-strauss-interview-the-truth/ According to Strauss, those things that are underneath start with our childhood. In an interview with the Atlantic in October, Strauss said that he; Robert Greene, who wrote “The Art of Seduction”; and Tucker Max, who was known for explicitly documenting his sexual escapades with women on his blog in the early 2000s; all share one commonality: “We all have narcissistic mothers. So what happened? What happens when you grow up with your ident… | /r/ExRedPill | 01/04/21 01:46 AM |
| 23 | Do redpill men have mother issues?yup. Neil Strauss had a narcissist mother. he claims about 80% of men in the PUA movement do. | /r/ExRedPill | 31/03/21 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?There are other macho bullshit reasons women are not sent to fight, like the shells are made in a large and hard to move form factor, and logistics is too lazy to make different types of body armor. I feel you're putting the cart before the horse. The reasons shells are so heavy and body armor is designed for men is because the military is designed for men. Also there is some gender parity in modern militaries, but throughout history the military was near universally for young men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/03/21 04:01 PM |
| 8 | [Q4All] What's an insecurity that's common among Your gender that the Opposite gender might not know?not only that, there's no non conventional fringe beauty groups for men. For women there are kinks and fringe groups for attraction to BBW, women with scars, all hair colors, all races, all heights, all breast sizes, etc. even if a woman isn't conventionally pretty (blond, white, 5'5, thin) there are groups of men who still lust after her. not so for men in heterosexual relationships. there is no pro BBM movement, or pro short male, or pro unemployed man movement | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:30 PM |
| 6 | [Q4All] What's an insecurity that's common among Your gender that the Opposite gender might not know?the fear of becoming too sick or disabled to support your spouse and children. that's a deep seated terror men have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:26 PM |
| 0 | Attractiveness Has Nothing To Do With Love; Only Lustdisagree. if you're attractive and your head is screwed on straight, you have a huge market of potential mates. If you are selecting based on RMV, you have options for very high RMV mates that less attractive people do not because those less attractive people can't get over the initial hurdle of initial attraction. Two emotionally mature, high RMV people generally tend to form loving, supportive relationships. If you are attractive and all you care about is getting laid then no it doesn't matter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:25 PM |
| 4 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?agreed. women want the best aspects of being a man (like being paid the same as men) without the drawbacks of being a man, like the fact that men are paid more because they work longer hours, they choose more lucrative vocations and they choose more dangerous jobs (90% of people who get injured at work are men). if women want to earn the same money as men, then let women work the same hours at the same. jobs as men. men are over represented on positions of power, but they are also over represent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:18 PM |
| 15 | Are men inherently seen as disposable by society?of course it's true. why do you think almost every nation in history only sends men in to combat? these are nations of different races, religions, nationalities, cultures, etc but they all generally refuse to put women in military combat roles. it's because we all intuitively understand eggs are more valuable than sperm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/21 11:14 PM |
| 1 | For a legit HVM, what does he get out of dating an FDS woman? What's in it for him?Men date and marry hot crazy women all the time. Yes but generally aren't those broken men on some level? Men like broken women, women like bad boys. But I believe that is more due to a low self esteem issue on some level, like trying to think you can change/reform that person proves you yourself are worthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/21 03:04 AM |
| 10 | "Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishismCan you imagine? Actually I can. Guys need to start posting memes on facebook designed to punish/shame women for having standards in the SMP "Any girl can be with a guy who has a stable job and a good income. It takes a real ride or die woman to step up and be with a man who is unemployed and watches TV all day" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/21 03:45 AM |
| 122 | "Body positivity" excludes overweight guys in favor of normalizing BBW fetishismDoes the woman OP is talking about not know that the reason some men are 'chubby chasers' is because they feel fat women are easier to sleep with? They're not looking for a long term relationship with a woman they can invest in emotionally or financially. Men who chase fat women are looking for an easy lay, not a woman they can invest in and commit to. But I agree with OP about the true goals. I am in favor of letting people live life on their own terms (some people are fat, some people smoke, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/21 03:05 PM |
| 0 | WHAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE?evolutionary psychology textbooks. read David Buss. lots of good info about mating and relationships without the fake alphaness, toxicity and resentment of trp. for male issues, try r/menslib | /r/ExRedPill | 24/03/21 01:23 AM |
| 3 | About Briffault's lawit's actually quite common among low RMV women to do this. have some bad boys kids and then find a less attractive beta to raise them. However it seems to mostly happen among low RMV women. educated, emotionally healthy women generally don't do this. | /r/ExRedPill | 20/03/21 06:15 PM |
| 1 | Are women inherently more aware of male nature than men are of women’s?men have looks hypergamy, women have status hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/21 03:09 PM |
| 12 | Are women inherently more aware of male nature than men are of women’s?yes. women know from a young age what men want. men are fed romance stories about women being these evolved beings who are above base human desires. However trp is too one dimensional and cynical. a good book on evolutionary psychology will give a more balanced view of what people want in the smp. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/21 03:05 PM |
| 2 | Brene Brown about men's gender role and shame about showing any weakness/vulnerability/being humanI don't know how common it is, but I've seen it all along the spectrum among both men and women about how they feel with men showing weakness. Some women like it, some women hate it. Some men want it, some men are repulsed by it. Beyond that I have no idea about statistics. I would assume women who subscribe to more traditional gender roles are more likely to reject men who show weakness, but I don't know. | /r/ExRedPill | 13/03/21 09:50 PM |
| 7 | Why are most men never taught how to attract women?The stuff most men are taught isn't true, its stuff like 'women value personality most of all'. Which is kind of applicable, but they only value your personality if you bring enough value to the SMP for them to see you as a sexual creature. Do you have enough good looks, status, height, parental attributes, career prospects, money, etc to hit their minimum bar to be seen as a potential mate? If not it doesn't matter what your personality is like. I think its also that our society puts women on a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/02/21 01:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men don't care about women's careers. But class definitely plays a role when it comes to datingIf you're a guy and you don't care about a woman's career, then you have poor priorities. A womans education level (as a proxy for her career) is one of the strongest predictors if she will divorce you or become a single mother. Also women with good educations and good careers can pull their own weight in a relationship financially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/21 02:14 AM |
| 2 | How do men want women to behave?I wouldn't take advice on how women should act from men you wouldn't want to be in a ltr with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/02/21 02:30 AM |
| 1 | Study: A minority of women do engage in af/bb dual mating strategyin my experience it's women low in RMV who pursue an af/bb strategy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/11/20 11:23 PM |
| 4 | Popular fake news debunked : men leave sick wives, college educated women divorce 90% of the timehigher income. lower rates of child abuse. lower rates of divorce, disability and single motherhood. A person's education is correlated with a variety of positive life outcomes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/20 01:22 AM |
| 2 | Do you think that most men on red pill forums are on the autism spectrum?no. I think most men in the mgtow, pua and red pill communities were traumatized, insecure or has very selfish, horrible mothers. I think it made them develop unhealthy attitudes about women and relationships and made them drawn to women very low in RMV. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/20 08:19 PM |
| 5 | Why isn't there a REAL equivalent for female dating statergy for men?But what kind of real standards do you apply on the said women? Other than physical attractiveness? Like, don't you want to guage if the woman is a good person? Attentive? Has a good career and earning potential? Why do male dating subreddits centre around 'how to appear confident and bag multiple women' than on 'how to overall judge a woman and how to find the right woman?'. Don't men really want...good women? Don't they have real standards for women? Because TRP is about short term mating stra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/09/20 11:37 PM |
| 0 | How to find "good" women?https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/36160628-the-tactical-guide-to-women this book has info about finding high RMV women | /r/ExRedPill | 09/09/20 11:27 PM |
| 10 | Obsession with womenmost of them were angry they couldn't get women in general or couldn't get a good relationship (bad divorces and bad partners). imo, many guys in trp and mgtow either have serious personality issues or traumatic backgrounds that make healthy romantic bonding near impossible. | /r/ExRedPill | 11/08/20 09:10 PM |
| 7 | Without male-thirst, men wouldn't care about womenDisagree. Make thirst drives a lot of risky and workaholic behavior. Without make thirst both crime and gdp go down a bit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 06:57 PM |
| 1 | How many men on here have ever been approach, asked out or pursued by another woman?its happened a handful of time | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/20 03:30 PM |
| 6 | What’s with the trend of very attractive women being single compared to average women?Well, if you believe TRP its because women who are 9s and 10s want investment and monogamy from guys who are 9s and 10s, but those guys can get soft harems full of female 6s and 7s instead so they do that. As a result, there isn't really a market of men who those 9 and 10 women consider their equal who are also willing to invest and commit. https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wk0vJV6OqeQ/TjujkDkBmnI/AAAAAAAABO4/PditaoNOHVE/s320/AfterSR.jpg | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/20 02:12 PM |
| 1 | AFBB is an exaggeration at best.AF/BB is very common, but it happens far more often among low RMV women. Low RMV women are the kinds of women that the men on TRP pursue, so it makes sense for them to describe the strategy. Higher RMV women tend to look for high betas for monogamy and investment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 10:53 PM |
| 5 | As long as prostitution exists, it will be just as easy for men as women to get no strings attached sexLots of men don't desire sex itself, they desire female approval and female validation. Sex is just a sign that you've obtained female approval and validation. Also a lot of prostitutes are sexually diseased, mentally unwell, hold their johns in contempt, etc. Plus with the legal risks and financial prices you have to pay its not that appealing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/20 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Eastern Bloc vs. American dating cultureMy understanding is that in eastern europe there are about 85 men for every 100 women. Not only that, but a lot of men there are low quality. Abusive, alcoholic, chronically unemployed, bad father material, etc. So the ratio of decent women to decent men is very skewed in Eastern Europe. In the US its more balanced. Also college campuses tend to be gender skewed. In the US they are about 3 women to every 2 men. That'll amplify it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/20 04:48 PM |
| 6 | What have we learned about women now that they have economic, social and sexual freedom?I disagree, men crave novelty in ways women do not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 09:04 PM |
| 8 | What have we learned about women now that they have economic, social and sexual freedom?I think its more that women don't desire to fuck strangers the way men do. There was a study comparing hetero and homosexual couples and the number of sexual partners of each. The hetero men and hetero women had something like 3-7 partners on average. Homosexual women had about the same, maybe 3-7 lifetime partners. Homosexual men had way more, it was common for them to have 100+ partners, 1000+ partners wasnt unheard of either. Within an established relationship, a woman may have a higher sex d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/20 08:09 PM |
| 4 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?As you get older you realize good health and good relationships are more important than financial success. You need money to live, but beyond a certain point is more about luxury than need. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 05:40 PM |
| 3 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?Most broke Chad's have a shitty life. Many Chads/bad boys I know end up total fuck ups by their late 20s. Of course not all Chads are the same. Some Chads are really handsome, athletic and intelligent. They do fine. its more the bad boy chads who end up with a life of crime, poverty, relationship issues from what I've seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 05:38 PM |
| 3 | What life script would be better suited for (young) men than the one we currently have?I love office work. Who cares about masculinity. Let the alpha males destroy their backs and knees working in construction sites. I'll be sitting in my ergonomic chair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/20 05:35 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is not a single universally attractive trait other than good lookslong term traits include emotional stability, good health, being good with children, financially stable, good communicator, good at resolving conflict, family oriented, etc. Women (and men) do seek out these traits for mates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/20 09:41 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is not a single universally attractive trait other than good looksThe main takeaway is you have to look at short term traits first. Those are the true arousal traits. Yes and no. Some traits that are desirable for short term mating (dark triad personality traits, a V shaped torso, sexual dimorphism) count against you for long term mating. Dark personality traits mean you'd make a bad husband and father. A V shaped torso or face shaped by testosterone mean you're more likely to cheat or abandon her and the kids. For women resources, stability and avoiding aband… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 04:48 PM |
| 2 | CMV: There is not a single universally attractive trait other than good looksYou link to your own post as evidence? Here is a study on traits desireable for long term mate preference. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-016-0048-6 Short term mating and long term mating are not the same. Its basically an r (short term. Tons of offspring with dysfunctional women with low paternal investment) vs k (long term. Few offspring with highly functional women and high paternal investment) strategy. Red Pill strategy is mostly for short term mating (getting as many wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 04:42 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is not a single universally attractive trait other than good looksWomen settle for long term men, and long term traits are unattractive. Thats something that flies in the face of both research and what women say they want. Raising a kid is hard work. Some selfish, manipulative bad boy will make a shit father. What good is being fucked by the dark triad bad boy if your kid ends up dying when young? A two parent household provides myriad advantages over a single parent household. Lots of women try to select for a man who would make a good long term mate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 04:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is not a single universally attractive trait other than good looksThere is short term mating and long term mating. And they have totally different strategies. Red pill tactics work great for short term mating when you as a man desire women high in cluster B personality traits and neuroticism. It generally doesn't work outside of that. red Pill generally doesn't work for emotionally healthy women looking for long term mating strategies. I think the 'ideal' for women is a man with both alpha and beta traits. Rich, famous, handsome, athletic, influential but also… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 02:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: There is not a single universally attractive trait other than good looksDisagree. If you are looking for a long term mate, one of the most important traits is emotional stability. Maturity, kindness, good communication skills, etc. Those traits don't matter for short term mating, but they are hugely important for long term mating strategies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 02:52 PM |
| 3 | Just how important is height really?as a tall man, height alone has never really done much for my prospects from what I've seen. I think its more that women reject short guys more than they desire tall guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 02:50 PM |
| 58 | If men stopped using women for sex, you'd find the connection you're really looking forBe good looking enough and have enough resources that she considers you her best option regarding passing on her genes. After that comes the romance, connection, love etc | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/20 03:23 AM |
| 15 | Men don't approach anymore ...Social media, inflated egos due to online dating and the constant urge for the bigger better deal makes it a waste of time for most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/20 02:52 AM |
| 3 | If men are naturally disgusted with promiscuous women due to evolution why do many fall in love with sex workers?Men with low self esteem seek out broken women to 'fix' because they think if they fix them, that means they are worthy and the woman will be forced to love them out of gratitude. Women seek out screwed up bad boys for the same reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/20 04:53 PM |
| 1 | 70% of top 1% male earners have stay-at-home spousesYeah but you don't have to be poor for being a stay at home mom to be the better financial option. If you have 2 kids, daycare for both may cost $2500 a month (its even higher in high cost of living areas). Add in the extra costs for transportation and work related expenses, combined with the tax advantage of being a stay at home parent (stay at home parents can be claimed as dependents I think) and if you have 2 kids, the mother probably needs to earn around 40-50k a year before taxes to even b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/20 04:48 PM |
| 1 | 70% of top 1% male earners have stay-at-home spousesthats about what I see. When the husband earns about 80-120k at a stable job, he makes enough for the wife to stay home assuming it is a low cost of living city they are in. Its probably closer to 200k in a high cost of living area. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 11:20 PM |
| 6 | 70% of top 1% male earners have stay-at-home spousesI didn’t expect that to be the case and just thought it was interesting. Its due to the welfare cliff. If you're a low income woman you can go to work and lose most of your benefits. Or you can be a SAHM and get medicaid, food stamps, housing assistance, tax credits, etc. I can't blame them. I think you have to earn 30/hr to make the kinds of benefits you can make by being a poor parent. https://www.learnliberty.org/blog/the-welfare-cliff-and-why-many-low-income-workers-will-never-overcome-pover… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 11:18 PM |
| 2 | 70% of top 1% male earners have stay-at-home spousesWhen you're making 400k in household income, making 40k at your full time job just seems stupid. When you're making 100k, it makes sense to keep working. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/20 11:16 PM |
| 3 | Every guy on PPDYou merely adopted the purple pill. I was born into it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/05/20 02:13 AM |
| 0 | Every guy on PPDLolol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 11:06 PM |
| 2 | Imagine being inundated with male interest all your life and you're still massively insecure with yourselfWhen a woman says you’re beautiful, chances are she genuinely believes that. Really? Women lie and say 'you're beautiful' to other women who really aren't even close. Granted, men say that too. I guess in some ways its hard, because even if you're an average woman who gets attention, you realize the guys who give it to you give that attention to every woman, not just you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 02:58 PM |
| 2 | Never simp for women. They simp for Chad (Part 8)r/The_Mueller | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/20 04:20 AM |
| 1 | Women: "The idea that we're only truly attracted to a small percentage of men is pure bullshit."All the women in their 40s asking where all the good men are | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 04:57 PM |
| 10 | Women: "The idea that we're only truly attracted to a small percentage of men is pure bullshit."But yeah, the percentage of men I would actually date is small The issue is if 40% of women are chasing the same 10% of men (because at the end of the day for the most part we all want the same people) its going to leave a lot of people empty handed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/20 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Most men stop the emotional effort they put in from the beginning once they get the girl. Why are men surprised when sex dies down too ?So if you feel it's normal to go months and months without keeping up with what you did in the beginning - why do you expect women to give you sex like it was in the beginning as well ? Part of that is infatuation though and it happens in every relationship. Eventually the infatuation gives way to a more deep form of emotional connection. Women do it too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/20 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Are women really flooded by male attention?For women who do get cold approached, I wonder if its the same group of men doing it. Like is there a small subset of men that approaches every 7+ girl they see? I seriously doubt its different men for each woman or anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/04/20 04:28 PM |
| 2 | We are lonelier then ever because everyone is disposableYeah they do if they're looking for a long term relationship. If all you want is a one night stand or a fling then no it doesn't matter, but if you want to start a family or life together its pretty important. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/20 09:31 PM |
| 20 | Do you believe that using women for sex is equivalent to using men for money? Why/why not?Yes. Both involve taking something of value without placing any value on the person underneath. I don't think men grasp that women invest a lot more with sex. A woman puts her life on the line each time she has sex, since pregnancy was the leading cause of death in adult women before the modern age. If everytime a man had sex, there was a serious risk he broke his leg and died from infection he may understand what the comparison is like. But I think its apt. Go into a used car lot and let the sa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/04/20 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Are things really that bad for short men?I think it’s getting worse nowadays because of internet communities for short men/people egging each other on into truly toxic thinking. Won't lie, I'm kind of looking forward to a wave of mass shooting committed by dwarves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 03:00 AM |
| 19 | As a Bi guy, dating men is not only easier, but it is the main reason I resent womenI believe lesbian marriages have the highest divorce rates. heterosexual marriages are in the middle and gay marriages have the lowest divorce rate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/04/20 02:35 AM |
| 1 | Harvard study - Expectations of wives’ homemaking may have eroded, but the husband breadwinner norm persists.You're profoundly ignorant based on the fact that thats the best comeback you can come up with. https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/02/24/this-chart-is-best-explanation-middle-class-finances-you-will-ever-see/ Libertarianism is a fantasy. If libertarianism worked in the real world, then nations would adopt it. But once a nation has wealth, education and representative government they all abandon it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 09:53 PM |
| 4 | Harvard study - Expectations of wives’ homemaking may have eroded, but the husband breadwinner norm persists.Health insurance was $10 a month. No student loans. Homes were $15,000. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/20 04:58 PM |
| 6 | Alot of men could avoid heartbreak if they stopped pursuing shallow relationships.I feel a lot of men would be happy with a plain girl with a good personality. Problem is they aren't as easy to find as you'd think | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/03/20 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Overwhelmingly, women prefer not to have relationships with men who earn less than they do, why do women change this narrative to, "Men are intimidated by successful women" instead?But again, do you want to form a LTR with women who throw themselves at serial killers? Peoples RMV run the gamut from very high to very low the same way their SMV does. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/03/20 06:13 PM |
| 29 | Overwhelmingly, women prefer not to have relationships with men who earn less than they do, why do women change this narrative to, "Men are intimidated by successful women" instead?For the same reason low SMV men claim the problem is 'women don't want nice guys', because the truth hurts and its easier to say the problem is other people have something wrong with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/03/20 03:36 PM |
| 4 | What do you believe the female equivalent of a short man is?A woman past menopause. To other older people she is still attractive but younger guys won't want her. By the same token short women will date a short man but tall women will not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/03/20 05:23 PM |
| 2 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.Yeah but sex is validation. Sex can be rented from a hooker for far less hassle. TRP guys want to prove they are 'worthy' of sex, they don't want to go out and rent it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/03/20 12:05 AM |
| 5 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.A friendly blue pilled Chad who gets bent over a barrel by a woman (divorce rape) is typically the guy that stumbles onto the red pill by accident. That was me. I understand that and I know there are lots of guys in MGTOW who that describes. I just don't think it has anything to do with being Chad. Guys all along the SMP have ended up in that situation. Rich, poor, handsome, ugly, it has happened to a lot of people. Also if a guy wants to avoid a painful divorce, TRP is not a good place to get a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 09:50 PM |
| 13 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.I mean, having a bunch of women willing to cheat on their boyfriends with you is probably going to have that effect on some Chads. But many Chads I've known just lacked the insight to really even understand they were in the elite in the SMP. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 09:46 PM |
| 11 | Red Pill men think that other men are better than they are, AND they think women think other men are higher value as well.Did it ever occur to you that Chad himself could be red-pilled? In my experience, many Chads aren't red pilled because women have always come easy for them. TRP is more about average men looking to get more women. Men who can get women just by showing up generally don't need TRP. Chads are generally more friendly and blue pilled from what I've seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/03/20 09:39 PM |
| 2 | Unpopular Opinion: There's no way women hit the wall at 30As you get older, the % of people on the singles market of both gender who are high quality relationship material drops. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/20 02:06 PM |
| 3 | Unpopular Opinion: There's no way women hit the wall at 30Its more about the fact that high quality men, when they want to commit and invest in a woman, can pick from younger and better women at that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/03/20 02:02 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Why would extremely high standards in some women bother you? Doesn't this just make filtering out picky women easier?Same here. Around the time that internet dating, tinder and smartphones were developed, women's standards skyrocketed. If they want high standards, that is up to them. Its just kind of isolating, but its also insulting that a woman who was in your league in 2006 now thinks shes settling for you in 2020. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/03/20 05:28 PM |
| 3 | Why don’t women seem to be angry about polygyny the way men are angry about hypergamy?I just assume the man is immature and can’t carry on an adult conversation. Exactly my point. Shaming tactics. High value men in their 30s and 40s can find high value women in their 20s to start families with. It makes women in their 30s and 40s who feel passed over resentful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 04:23 PM |
| 9 | Why don’t women seem to be angry about polygyny the way men are angry about hypergamy?Women get very upset about high value men picking younger women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/03/20 01:01 PM |
| 4 | I don't believe that women are attracted to 'hard work' and 'effort' as much as we are made to believe. Instant gratification from those who have already attained success is a lot more attractive, even if they achieved it without any effort at all.Women want a man who can competently and ambitiously engage in labors that translate into status, resources and safety for himself and his loved ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/03/20 12:07 AM |
| 0 | David Buss Ted Talk YouTube Video + Science - oriented DiscussionYour op mentions alphas and betas as a potential factor in female mate preference. Also Evo psych is not rocket science | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 04:26 AM |
| 0 | David Buss Ted Talk YouTube Video + Science - oriented DiscussionHis arguments verify red pill philosophy. People maximize their reproductive strategies and the two genders do this in different ways | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 04:14 AM |
| 4 | David Buss Ted Talk YouTube Video + Science - oriented DiscussionMate switching hypothesis is just another term for hypergamy and beta orbiter. https://aeon.co/essays/does-the-mate-switching-hypothesis-explain-female-infidelity | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/03/20 03:42 AM |
| 5 | Are men just not that attractive?The average man in the Netherlands is six feet tall. It probably doesn't help him out when all the other men are six feet tall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 04:38 PM |
| 15 | Are men just not that attractive?Yup. Women are designed to select for men best able to deal with environmental stresses. What counts as an environmental stress cam change drastically in a very short time period. Men who are successful in one environment may find themselves to be failures in a different environment. So women select the best men, since those men are obviously best at coping with whatever challenges and stresses are currently facing the current generation. If all men improve by two points, women just select the n… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/03/20 04:36 PM |
| 1 | What do you think is the best way for a woman to spend her prime years?Lock down a guy in her league with both alpha and beta traits for a LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/03/20 02:03 AM |
| 1 | How can a woman respect men knowing that they all want to fuck her?Do guys wanting to fuck random women and leaving them to deal with all the obligations of pregnancy and child care by themselves really flatter women? Salesman want to sell me stuff every time I go into a store, I don't find it flattering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/03/20 03:27 PM |
| 3 | How can a man who is average/below average become attractive?You have them, yes. In a way. But after they have married you, the sex will dry up and she will be very disrespectful and adulterous with you. Money alone probably can't earn a woman's respect. She has to respect your personality and like your appearance too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/20 08:28 PM |
| 6 | How can a man who is average/below average become attractive?The short answer to this is money. Money has the potential to make any below average looking man into a stud. Women won't respect you as a BB though. They may date or marry you, but they'll cheat on you and disrespect you while they do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/20 04:03 PM |
| 22 | What do you think is making men so unattractive to women?And if you approach one of those women they freeze up, get confused or assume you're making fun of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/20 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Women’s attraction to tall men: social or biological?But the height alone isn't the appeal | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/20 01:33 AM |
| 5 | Let’s play devils advocate - Men, what issues do you empathize with women on that they have to deal with, and women, what issues do you empathize with men on that they deal with?As a guy, I empathize with women dealing with men who literally just want to use them for sex. As a guy, you meet women who want to use you. Usually for money, or attention, or as babysitters for Chads kids. But in general, I don't think women use and objectify men to the degree that we do it to them. I've met women who wanted to use me, and its insulting. But then you factor in how much more often it happens to women, combined with how physically smaller they are and I'm sure its much worse. As… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 06:55 PM |
| 0 | Women’s attraction to tall men: social or biological?Height alone isn't that big a trigger for women, I don't think. A tall skinny guy or a tall fat guy won't get much attention. However if you combine height with a V shaped torso and broad shoulders? Yeah, that works well on women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/20 06:42 PM |
| 28 | The reason why men feel “lied to” by society about what women want is because, what women want, and what emotionally/sexually arouses them, are two different questions that we never differentiated“Smart, funny, honest, loyal, fun, open to new experiences, likes to travel, ambitious, works hard but also plays hard, serious but not too serious, financially stable, emotionally stable, stays healthy, etc. Women do want these things, but they only want them from men who are physically attractive enough for them to view them as sexual creatures and sexual options. Men with those traits who are above the minimum looks threshold are viewed as boyfriend/husband material. Men who are below that th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 09:45 PM |
| 1 | Men aren’t angry because they realized women want Chad. They’re angry because they realized they aren’t Chad.Vince Neil is a Chad. He was fucking tons of hot women when he was broke and unknown. When he got rich and famous he just fucked more of them. Hefner was beta bucks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/20 01:04 AM |
| 1 | Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock?Attraction towards high Dark triad personality is ....... I guess. Depends on whether its short term or long term mating. When looking for a long term mate both genders want someone intelligent, emotionally stable, kind, patient, good at communication, etc. When looking for a short term mate though they don't care about that. Women want dark triad men, and men was damaged, slutty women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 11:37 PM |
| 0 | Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock?The market before social media, cell phones and dating apps was different though. Not amazing, but better for average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock?Lots of incels aren't bad looking, their issues do come down to psychological issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 11:30 PM |
| 2 | Men: can you explain why women liking “Chad” is such a shock?I think part of it is that women judges men's value in the SMP by a wider range of criteria. Men mostly just value a woman's fertility/attractiveness as well as how fit she is to be a mother/wife (for LTRs at least. For short term mating men use different criteria). Women judge men for a wider range of criteria. Attractiveness yes but also ability to obtain resources, willingness to share resources with family, ability to protect his wife and family, willingness to not abandon family as well as … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/02/20 11:13 PM |
| 5 | Reasonably attrattive men in their early 30s with their sh*t together are better off casual dating than being in a LTR?Some men like playing the field. Some men like having a stable woman they can come home to and talk to every night. There is also the fact that every year you get older, which means more and more of the good mates get poached for LTRs, leaving the pool of good mates smaller and smaller each year. Also each year the % of women on the market who already have kids grows. Lots of guys know this, so they want to pair up as quickly as possible. Also being a father is a hard job, and its easier to have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 09:03 PM |
| 1 | What are some things women think men like but are very wrong about?Being as thin as possible. Its more about ratios between waist, hips and breasts than your BMI and bodyfat percentage. Also women really underestimate how important psychological attraction is for us to find you sexually attractive in a relationship. Yeah a guy may fuck you once or twice based on your looks alone, but beyond that if he isn't attracted to you on a psychological level he is going to lose interest. Being cruel, boring, entitled, etc are bigger sex drive killers than your appearance… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/02/20 03:37 PM |
| 1 | Which gender is most clueless about the other ?Men. TRP has a lot of guys who are totally clueless about what actual women are actually like. I don't know if there is a comparable mass movement for women who are totally clueless about what actual men want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 03:19 PM |
| 1 | [CMV] Most useful advice given to men on dating can be categorized into 2 simple phrases.Good advice: Bring value to the marketplace Have the correct priorities (don't marry a low RMV woman, etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/20 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Dating app stats don't demonstrate extreme hypergamy, it demonstrates an oversaturation of menIn the real world the gender ratio is equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/20 08:44 PM |
| 4 | CMV: Women have their own version of Madonna-Whore complexTrue emotional intimacy requires vulnerability and authenticity. If people can pull that off in a D/s relationship that is great, but it can be hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 11:12 PM |
| 10 | CMV: Women have their own version of Madonna-Whore complexThe problem is some women who want a dominant man want someone who plays a role that isn't realistic or healthy for an actual relationship. In the real world people get sick, people get sad, they lose their jobs, they have money problems, etc. For people looking for some kind of dominant, infallible alpha male they'll never find all these traits in one person unless that person is just pretending. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/02/20 07:35 PM |
| 2 | Do men REALLY like “good girls”?Your friends sound like they have low self esteem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/02/20 03:40 AM |
| 16 | Women who are or have been in a relationship and stopped having sex with your partner, why?Seems like feeling emotionally ignored is a bigger reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/20 01:06 AM |
| 1 | What kind of girls are TRP guys having sex with?Neil Strauss said most leaders of pua had self centered mothers. He once asked a group of people at a pua convention how many had narcissist mothers and 80% said they did. | /r/ExRedPill | 22/12/19 02:32 AM |
| 1 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?Nm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 04:34 AM |
| 3 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?What a sad effort to deny reality because reality is unpleasant. How alpha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 03:52 AM |
| 11 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?He has no shame, but is also terrified of shame at the same time. His only true motivator is feeding his own ego. If he thought he could feed his own ego by abandoning his supporters and throwing them under the bus he would do so in a day. He can't control his base instincts, he is basically the seven deadly sins personified. Envy, greed, gluttony, sloth, pride, anger, lust. Women find him so disgusting that he has to pay porn stars six figures to have sex with him even though those women find h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 01:22 AM |
| 4 | What is a high value man for you?TRP cannot be trusted on this. They cannot understand the mindset outside of scarcity- even if they start getting laid in adulthood, they will never understand what it’s like to feel desired throughout their youth and have that ease. Truth. Guys dont' end up on TRP because they are doing great with women. Most guys who end up on TRP end up there either because they can't get female attention/validation, or because they keep chasing after low RMV women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 01:12 AM |
| 11 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?He has to pay porn stars who find him disgusting 100k to sleep with him because no woman finds him attractive enough to sleep with him for free. He also whines incessantly and can't handle criticism. He also changes his opinion based on the last person to talk to him. Thats pretty fucking beta. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 01:08 AM |
| 25 | Do Red Pill Liberals Exist?I used to be, but seeing the Trump worship in 2016 made me realize TRP wasn't for me and I became purple pill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 01:06 AM |
| 1 | What is a high value woman to you?Late 20s, college educated, financially secure, good paying job, good with money, good with kids. Attractive, but not so attractive that it overwhelms her other good traits or makes her seem artificial, or makes her out of my league. Emotionally stable, compassionate, good communicator, good listener, willing to work on herself and her relationship, free of serious mental and physical health issues. Raised in a healthy environment by parents who were good role models. has compatible views and go… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/12/19 01:03 AM |
| 5 | Are red pill ideas about the lives of above average looking women totally disconnected from reality or am I doing something wrong?You also posted this though. Maybe you were just having a bad day when you posted it and were excessively hard on yourself though. https://www.reddit.com/r/EDAnonymous/comments/cavx2q/my_two_best_friends_have_naturally_amazing_bodies/ Me: 5'6, 140lbs. Apple shaped body with no waist, hips or ass, a flabby stomach, back rolls of an obese person, terrible hunched posture and chicken legs. Former swimmer so my shoulders are huge and my boobs are way too big for my body, making me look fat and even … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 03:19 AM |
| 1 | Men don't like average women, despite what they say. Men are irritated by the very existence of average women because they don't fit men's standards of femininity.In what world is 140 lbs or having an extra 10-15 lbs considered overweight? Are the standards in east asia and eastern europe really that stringent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/19 01:10 AM |
| 1 | Are men just not trying hard anymore?That's their decision | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Are men just not trying hard anymore?men are being forced to either rise to this new bar, or risk being alone. This ties into what some other men are saying. Women's standards have gone up at the same time that both gender's value is going down. Both men and women are lower in SMV and RMV than they were in the past. People are flakier, fatter, more likely to be single parents, etc than they were. Women's standards go up at a time when what both men and women are offering is going down. For a lot of guys it just stops being worth th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/19 04:26 AM |
| 2 | Female entitlement exists; it just manifest itself differently than its widely frowned upon male equivalent and there’s far more political advocates for itI agree with your premise, but disagree about where you think the entitlement comes from. The entitlement comes from women thinking they are entitled to commitment and investment from high SMV and high RMV men. If you ever read a book about male unemployment or men falling behind in getting college degrees, the issue isn't ever presented as 'we have to help men', its always presented as 'men need to do better so they're good enough for women'. Imagine if every article about female obesity was pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/19 12:03 AM |
| 3 | CMV: It's not worth it for men to get married in USA.Divorce propagates for a myriad of reasons. Education levels and age of marriage are huge predictors of divorce rates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/19 04:39 PM |
| 27 | CMV: It's not worth it for men to get married in USA.In China, its women who are abandoning marriage and they're abandoning it for the same reasons men in the west are abandoning it. Women in china have no legal protections from domestic violence (just as men in the west have few/no legal protections from DV and can be arrested for defending themselves from violence). Women in China have limits on reproductive rights, and can lose custody of their children in a divorce. I'm not sure how imbalanced the courts are in Asian nations, but I know in lat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/19 04:35 PM |
| 1 | Honestly, I'm horrified by what MGTOW says about women, anyone else?IMO, there is a process where a guy goes from PUA to TRP to MGTOW. Most guys on that treadmill had abusive or neglectful mothers which created an unconscious pattern of them being attracted to shit women, and depending on women for validation and approval. So its mostly dysfunctional guys with bad female role models chasing the shittiest 20% of women on the marketplace and being burned until they are full of bitterness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/11/19 02:12 AM |
| 12 | Human civilization and its progress are worse off with a liberated sexual climate.More traditional societies are well above the fertility replacement rate. No they aren't. Fertility drops to replacement or below around $5000 per capita income. It doesn't matter what your culture is. It can be a western culture, middle eastern, east asian, etc. its all the same. Middle eastern nations like Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, etc. are at or below replacement levels, same as France, Germany & Ireland. Also east asian nations are more tradcon than western nations and their fertility rates are l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/11/19 02:53 PM |
| 1 | Most women increase their SMV when they really need an increase in RMV (men are in need of both)Yes, this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/10/19 12:09 AM |
| 7 | CMV: Male sexuality is seen as predatory and repressed in society.Also for short term mating strategies, men prefer emotionally damaged women since they are easier to control/manipulate into sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/19 01:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Age gap freakouts prove that most people think women are children until around age 25-30 or soWhat's so bad about admitting younger people tend to be more vulnerable than older people due to immaturity and lack of experience? I'm not saying you have to take away their rights or prevent them from doing anything. As a society we let 18 year olds go off and die in foreign nations. The government preys on their naivety and feeling of invincibility to get them to fight wars fro the agenda of elderly politicians. We let them vote too. And as mentioned earlier, we allow predatory lenders to mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/10/19 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Do women have completely different standards of what's appropriate and what's not depending on how attractive a man is?Yeah, I'll take your word on that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/19 06:27 PM |
| 14 | Do women have completely different standards of what's appropriate and what's not depending on how attractive a man is?There are no inherently creepy behaviors Thats not really true. Creepy is largely about ignoring negative signs and signs of disinterest from someone, having poor boundaries and no concern for other people's boundaries, coming across as willing to harm someone, etc. Attractive people can have these traits too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/10/19 03:48 PM |
| 3 | TRP is in trouble: the dual mating strategy has been destroyedIts generally women lower in socio-economic status who pursue AF/BB from what I've seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Was there a time that you thought things were better in the SMPI fully agree. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 11:11 PM |
| 8 | TRP is in trouble: the dual mating strategy has been destroyedThats not dual mating strategy. I see dual mating strategy all the time IRL. WOmen in their teens and 20s chase after guys who are sexually exciting and good lookiing. Usually end up with a kid. In their late 20s, responsibility hits them (the epiphany phase) and they start looking for a less attractive but more stable and reliable beta to raise Chads kids. Happens all the time. Thats more what AF/BB means from what I've seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Was there a time that you thought things were better in the SMPOLD is a mixed blessing for women. In real life, the % of men who are high SMV/RMV is tiny but OLD makes it appear there are an infinite number of men to pick from. OLD makes women's standards skyrocket but what men are offering hasn't really changed any. So women end up empty handed and bitter chasing a dream. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Was there a time that you thought things were better in the SMPAre they? Or is it more that women are only having sex with the top men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 10:44 PM |
| 1 | Was there a time that you thought things were better in the SMPIn college in the aughts (before smart phones, dating apps, and internet dating) it was much better. Smart phones and dating apps have made hypergamy explode, and in college there tends to be a gender imbalance that benefits men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 10:44 PM |
| 10 | Has men's standards of desired attractiveness in women always been so basic?Both honestly. Men have less to lose by making a bad decision with procreation. A man can theoretically have 70,000 kids over the course of his lifetime, a woman can only have about 30 max (excluding twins, triplets, etc). Men don't risk their health when they procreate, women do. Men's nutritional needs don't go up with pregnancy, women's do, etc. So women are designed by evolution to be more risk adverse with procreation. But also online dating has made men desperate as women all chase the min… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/10/19 01:03 AM |
| 10 | Being a young women isnt as fun as people on here make out.Interesting, thank you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/10/19 12:41 PM |
| 1 | Karen took everything after the divorce and left me homeless, but I'm feasting like a King tonight. #LovinLife #Possum #MGTOWDude, I'm also obese with a shit personality and poor personal care habits. Its no wonder us MGTOW men have to fight off the women and make a conscious choice to go our own way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/19 08:16 PM |
| 14 | Reminder: Felon Jeremy Meeks knocked up a billionaire heiress due to his wonderful personalityShe cheated on him too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 08:02 PM |
| 0 | Only winners deserve sex. Why do men cry about this80% of men end up married. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 03:11 PM |
| 1 | What is something you dislike but understand when it comes to dating?Well yeah, I did better with women when my looks went down but my personality went up. However you need enough looks to get your foot in the door. If you don't have that you get friendzoned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/10/19 03:32 AM |
| 7 | The Post-Wall WurstieIt means he is incompetent and can't cook. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 04:57 PM |
| 3 | The Post-Wall WurstieThis is amazing | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/19 04:56 PM |
| 14 | Tinder studiesIs this why that box of banquet brand frozen lazagna shot up a movie theater last week after posting that youtube rant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/19 07:07 PM |
| 1 | Men are better than women in everythingNope. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sexual-personalities/201603/are-men-more-helpful-altruistic-or-chivalrous-women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/19 03:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you want to get laid, don't go into stemwho the fuck told you STEM pays 300k in income? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/10/19 01:34 AM |
| -2 | Why the Blackpill is the real Red PillA 6'5'' white man with 10/10 male model good looks can get with the vast majority of women on the planet with ease. He can fuck a bunch of women, but he will struggle to find a woman to marry him or form a LTR if he doesn't offer value in a LTR (financial stability, emotional stability, loyalty, good with kids, good personality, etc) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/10/19 08:08 PM |
| 1 | It's becoming harder than ever to get your shit together as a young man.I swear these days men aren't needed unless they're the best of the best. Yeah, thats sadly true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 12:04 AM |
| 12 | Do you care about the intelligence of your partners?Intelligence and education is one of the most important things to look for in a LTR. The rates of divorce, single motherhood, child abuse, etc. are much lower among intelligent, highly educated women than among unintelligent, poorly educated women. The 20 yr divorce rate for women with college diplomas is only about 20%, vs about 60% for women who didn't graduate high school. https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2015/12/FT_15.12.4.college.marriage2.png For all the talk of d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/10/19 12:02 AM |
| 2 | What is something you dislike but understand when it comes to dating?The problem is not everybody can improve that much. Your face is mostly formed in the womb and formed by genetics. You can't really become more handsome. Being handsome is more of a market of sexual dimorphism, a healthy immune system, good nutrition in childhood and being properly formed in the womb. You can't really change those things much. You can get a better body if you work at it, but it takes a lot of work. Issues with personality may have deep seated roots due to childhood trauma, genet… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 09:34 PM |
| 2 | What is something you dislike but understand when it comes to dating?I’ve had girls be super into me but by being too easy to be won they lose attraction. Yeah but at the same time, using this tactic is going to make you more attractive to people with abandonment issues and low self esteem as people like that are more prone to chasing unobtainable partners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 09:31 PM |
| 0 | Q4A: For those women who 'don't care about height', why is this point never mentioned in their dating profiles?As a guy, I don't care about a thigh gap. As a result my dating pool is larger, but I'm not going to advertise it on a personals ad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 09:28 PM |
| 4 | CMV: There Is Possibly No Greater Red Flag For A Woman In This Age Than A Man Obsessed With N-Count, Or Her Being A VirginI think it's more about guys don't want to be the beta backup after a woman is alpha widowed. Those relationships never work out. The woman will never respect her man and the relationship will either end in dead bedroom, cruelty and disrespect on her part, paternity fraud, affairs or divorce. Usually several of them. Men aren't wrong for wanting to avoid this fate, even though a woman's n count isn't necessarily the best or only way to predict if this will happen. Men want a woman who respects a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 05:39 PM |
| 6 | Theory I have about the 80/20 ruleMathematically, 80% of men can't be in the top 20%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 01:04 PM |
| 3 | Theory I have about the 80/20 ruleOnly 20% of men are 6' or taller for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 03:38 AM |
| 9 | Theory I have about the 80/20 ruleSo guys who are educated, good jobs, tall, decent faces and decent bodies are just on the higher end of average? I'm not in denial. I'm just pointing out what guys on this subreddit keep saying over and over and over and over again but women keep denying. Women's standards have shot up and now female 5s think a male 8 is their equal. But there are way more female 5s than there are male 8s willing to form committed, monogamous relationships with them. I won't stop you from pursuing the path you p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 02:08 AM |
| 8 | Theory I have about the 80/20 ruleExactly. Women just view being college educated, tall and not fat as default Baseline demands rather than positive attributes. Those three demands automatically exclude well over 90-95% of men as most men fail at least one. This is what guys keep talking about and women keep denying is happening. Women's standards have shot up while men's offerings and women's offerings have if anything gone down. The sexual marketplace is a marketplace. If you keep demanding better and better employees while of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/10/19 02:05 AM |
| 7 | Theory I have about the 80/20 ruleThats fair. hell only 1/3 of men are college educated. And only a subset of them have good careers. Add in a good face, good body and good height on top of it and yeah its 5-10%, or less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/19 08:44 PM |
| 19 | Theory I have about the 80/20 ruleThe top 15-20% is the men y'all (and your queens/mommies) are moist over. These are your male models with sculpted bodies, these are your movie stars and celebrities, these are your rich men. Those are not the top 20% of men. Those are the top 0.1% of men. The top 20% of men are reasonably tall, not fat, college educated men with stable careers and reasonable faces. Or men who do well in one area (maybe a good body or a good face) but is average in all other areas. Guys who are very above averag… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/19 08:23 PM |
| 2 | Wouldn't you just end up with dead-beadrooms, if you force women into relationships with unattractive menA big part of DB situations is psychological, not physical. I've known good looking couples in them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/19 05:29 PM |
| 2 | How do abandonment issues present themselves in men and women?In men, the PUA and TRP community likely have a massive problem with abusive and narcissistic mothers. I think this creates a deep seated desire for female validation, leading men to learn manipulation tactics to obtain female validation on tap. Problem is the women most willing to give validation also have abandonment issues (histrionic, borderline, histories of abuse, etc). So PUA men desire validation from women who desire validation, and both end up worse than they were before. If you are a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/10/19 04:56 PM |
| 6 | Why do older females (30+) fail to grasp why men prefer younger nubile women?https://www.someecards.com/entertainment/news/leo-dicaprio-is-gross/amp The author seems more hurt that she is too old to be in his desired demographic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/19 07:53 PM |
| 6 | Why do older females (30+) fail to grasp why men prefer younger nubile women?Someone once mentioned that women only get upset when average men do this. When elite men (like Leonardo DiCaprio do it) people are fine with it. He dates college age women and he is almost 50, and people are fine with it. I think on some level its because if average men do it, then it makes the market much harder for average women since like it or not a gigantic factor in a woman's SMV is her fertility, and fertility declines with age. Whereas if the top 0.1% of men do it, that doesn't affect m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/19 07:32 PM |
| 3 | Why is it hard to believe men cheat more than women?Its more the opposite from what I've seen. If a girl knows you have a girlfriend that increases your RMV and makes her want you more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/19 03:29 PM |
| 41 | What are some really bad or worst advice the red pill gives?Pursue women for validation rather than meaningful companionship. | /r/ExRedPill | 01/10/19 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Does one gender need the other more then the reverse?Funny, interpreted it the opposite way; that women dont need men, so IF they're going to be tied down by one, he better be a prize pig. I disagree. Historically women needed men not just for procreation and companionship but also for providers and protection. Men just need women for procreation and companionship. So women have more demands of men than men have of women, hence their standards are higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/10/19 08:29 PM |
| 1 | pornography and its effectsThats your view. However the vast majority of child sexual abusers are never brought to justice, so law enforcement can't solve the issue sadly. My view is that if you have a society with illegal digital child porn and 20% of kids are sexually abused vs a society with legal digital child porn where only 14% of children are sexually abused, better to live in the second society. Obviously a 0% rate is the goal, but a 30% reduction is better than nothing. Its harm reduction like giving needles to d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/19 12:55 AM |
| 1 | pornography and its effectsI'd rather pedophiles jack off to digital child porn than go around abusing actual children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 11:42 PM |
| 3 | pornography and its effectsVery well thought out. The powers that be want an army of desperate, angry, energetic young men who they can use/abuse for their own political and military aims. Banning pornography (and video games, and whatever other pallatives young men who don't have enough SMV/RMV to find satisfactory outcomes on the dating market) is an effective way to lead them into political movements as cannon fodder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 10:42 PM |
| 1 | pornography and its effectsIts beneficial to society as a whole since it reduces the rates of sex crimes by 20-30%. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/all-about-sex/201601/evidence-mounts-more-porn-less-sexual-assault http://healthland.time.com/2010/12/02/study-making-pornography-more-accessible-may-curb-child-abuse/ That includes child porn. Since child porn involves real life victims, digital child porn could probably be used as an alternative to reduce the risk of child sexual abuse. If we didn't have easy access … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 10:37 PM |
| 12 | Video games are low-status because of their amazing cost effectiveness.True, but on top of that there is a mentality that time spend on video games takes away time from dating and relationships. I don't think people have the same attitude about TV for some reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/19 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Hey Dudes!How close to reality is TRP(regarding women obv.)? There is some truth, but TRP works best with dysfunctional women. Women with low self esteem, cluster B issues, codependency issues, etc. Emotionally healthy women with good families tend to reject TRP tactics and TRP men. I feel like generalizing 3-4billion of creatures as Hoes, sluts is absolutely ridiculous. That's why i am even breaking away from mgtow thingy. Should I? or NOT? Generally people who end up on the PUA -> TRP -> MGTOW treadmill… | /r/ExRedPill | 27/09/19 01:07 AM |
| 6 | What kind of girls are TRP guys having sex with?A lot of it is also childhood trauma. Most PUA types had self centered or abusive mothers. It created an unconscious model that women are selfish and their love unobtainable. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/09/19 09:56 PM |
| 6 | What kind of girls are TRP guys having sex with?Women who have codependency issues, histories of abuse, low self esteem, borderline personality disorder. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/09/19 09:55 PM |
| 7 | Actually profiting from "ethottery" is actually pretty skillfulHigh quality prostitutes are about $50 in Germany ever since they legalized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/19 09:43 PM |
| 3 | Actually profiting from "ethottery" is actually pretty skillfulThere are lots of people who enjoy being financially exploited. It's called financial domination. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/09/19 09:41 PM |
| 6 | Are young women doing better these days than young men? Are there more manchildren than womanchildren? What are the implications of this?Actually in my experience a lot of low RMV women are reasonably attractive. They are just total fuck ups in their personal lives (single motherhood, debt, low paying careers, drugs/alcohol, crime, drama, etc). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/19 01:56 PM |
| 11 | Are young women doing better these days than young men? Are there more manchildren than womanchildren? What are the implications of this?I agree. Men take risks because men who aren't valuable have their genetic line die. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/19 04:25 AM |
| 36 | Are young women doing better these days than young men? Are there more manchildren than womanchildren? What are the implications of this?This isn't meant to be placating women, but generally women are more socially responsible and more risk adverse than men. Women have higher voter turnout, higher rates of obtaining tertiary degrees, lower unemployment rates, higher rates of being caregivers of elderly or disabled family members, lower incarceration rates, etc. Women are generally more socially responsible so them having fewer fuck ups isn't surprising. However female fuck ups do exist. I'm not sure why op hasn't seen them. Usual… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/09/19 03:23 AM |
| 2 | Is idiocracy's prediction that poor/uneducated people will outbreed well-off/educated people true? Relatedly, are men who follow the socially-sanctioned rat race script beta, their caution breeding themselves out of existence? And does it even matter?Yes its true. As has been mentioned multiple studies have found that a woman's level of education is negatively correlated with how many kids she has. And education is correlated with intelligence. At the same time, geogrpahic variances in intelligence is also tied into fertility. Areas with high IQs like the west or east asia have low fertility rates while areas with lower IQs like sub saharan Africa have higher fertility rates. Virtually all the population growth of the 21st century will occur… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/09/19 12:06 AM |
| 5 | Redpill is beneficial to absolutely NO woman todayLike I said, I think you'll be attractive to one of two types of guys. completely self absorbed rich guys looking for a young trophy wife (guys like Donald Trump). It won't be a marriage, it'll be an exchange. He gets your youth and good looks and you get his income. You'll both be totally self absorbed in the relationship. Guys who are deeply damaged and are unconsciously attracted to women who don't care about them or mistreat them. If your goal is financial independence, you can get it via ei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/19 09:36 PM |
| 4 | Redpill is beneficial to absolutely NO woman todayIts true though. A lot of PUA/TRP comes from desperately seeking female validation, usually due to low self esteem or having abusive/neglectful parents. Neil Strauss once said 80% of PUAs had self centered mothers. Its a sad life. Guys who radically alter their appearance and personality to obtain external validation, become assholes just because they're desperate to obtain female validation which they will use as a band aid on childhood wounds of being abandoned and abused. This is a good blog … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/19 09:31 PM |
| 8 | Redpill is beneficial to absolutely NO woman todayI checked your post history and saw you posted on a narcissistic forum. Men with good personalities and options don't want to date or marry a woman with cluster B personality disorder. Ironically, the kinds of women who fall for TRP tactics tend to be cluster B women. But usually its more histrionic or borderline women. The men on TRP try to develop sociopathic and narcissistic traits. Basically the red pill is men with cluster B issues and codependency issues trying to obtain validation from wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/19 09:25 PM |
| 5 | Redpill is beneficial to absolutely NO woman todayTry married red pill. Its laughable. A bunch of men who would cut their own cock off and shove it up their own ass if they thought it would lead to female validation. Men who are selfish assholes because they think it'll earn a woman's approval. Its a sad life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/19 09:20 PM |
| 6 | Q4W: You know how some guys are like, “When I wasn’t as good looking and financially successful,” these women wouldn’t give me the time of day ... besides looks and sex, what has that equivalent thing been for you as a woman?I thought you guys were happy together | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/19 04:37 PM |
| 11 | Bad guy radarTed Bundy used his good looks, faking a disability, faking an aristocratic accent, charm, etc. to get women to lower their guard. It worked well for him, he was able to pick up hitchhikers even when everyone knew a serial killer was on the loose. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/19 11:41 PM |
| 6 | Women complaining about men only wanting sex is the female version of the friendzoneTo add to that, the college majors with the highest IQs (mathemathics and chemistry) have higher virginity rates than other majors. https://www.buzzfeed.com/sarahmorgan/virginity-rates-by-college-major-d8 https://thetab.com/us/2017/04/10/which-major-has-highest-iq-64811 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/19 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Why do wives of rich men almost always have arrogant, entitled attitudes?How do you win the game as a guy? Marry a really wealthy gal? Obtain capital. Either financial (money), political (power) or social (fame). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/19 11:25 PM |
| 0 | Why do wives of rich men almost always have arrogant, entitled attitudes?As a guess, the kinds of women who value a guys wealth above everything else (his compatibility, parenting skills, looks, personality, etc) tend to be shitty, low quality women anyway. Basically gold diggers are shitty people. They'd be shitty people even if they never met a rich guy. Are you talking about women who married a guy after he was rich, or women who married a guy when they were both working class, but then he got rich? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/19 11:24 PM |
| 1 | a noticeable trend between history of abuse and red pill acceptance/indoctrinationOH yeah, there is a huge huge correlation between parental abuse/neglect and growing up to enter the PUA -> TRP -> MGTOW treadmill. Huge. I'm glad you brought the issue up, because its something that is swept under the rug. Abused and neglected children do not learn healthy ways of relating to people, especially in romantic relationships. I was abused and neglected as a kid, and I fell down the PUA -> TRP -> MGTOW treadmill until I started working on myself, working on my issues, and my unresolv… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/09/19 10:57 PM |
| 5 | According to Forbes, women in their 20s without children out-earn men by as much as $1.08 to every dollar, according to some estimates. What are the implications for relationships?The argument I've heard is that the % of black men who are college educated, middle class, free of interactions with the criminal justice system and emotionally healthy is very small. As a result, those men have their choice of women and have no incentive to commit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/19 10:27 PM |
| 5 | How often do you see AF/BB play out in real life?A woman wants alpha bucks, a guy who has it all. But only a tiny % of men are AB, and most women know they aren't good enough to keep one. Generally women with average or above average SMV/RMV tend to go for a high beta kind of guy (a guy with a good career and good personality). Its usually the lower quality and more dysfunctional women who pursue AF/BB strategies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/19 04:07 AM |
| 25 | According to Forbes, women in their 20s without children out-earn men by as much as $1.08 to every dollar, according to some estimates. What are the implications for relationships?The single parenthood rate is 65% among black people, around 41% among latinos and 24% among whites. https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/tables/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race#detailed/1/any/false/871,870,573,869,36,868,867,133,38,35/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/432,431 Asians have a lower rate, probably due to culture. Rates for blacks, whites and asians have been pretty stable the last decade. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/19 02:32 AM |
| 13 | How often do you see AF/BB play out in real life?All the god damn time. But it usually happens like this. Woman dates good looking bad boys in her teens and 20s. Gets pregnant and has to raise the kid by herself. By her mid/late 20s she hits the epiphany phase, and decides to find a far less attractive but far more stable guy. She usually has a kid with this guy too, to cement the relationship. Usually the relationship fails. Either it ends in divorce, or cheating, or her being very rude and cruel to the guy. I don't think I've seen these rela… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/19 02:26 AM |
| 77 | According to Forbes, women in their 20s without children out-earn men by as much as $1.08 to every dollar, according to some estimates. What are the implications for relationships?You have to look to the black community to see what happens, because this has been going on there for far longer. Women have been out earning men there for a long time. One thing that happens is that the % of men who are eligible shrinks. This means the small % of men who are 'good enough' become players rather than family men because they have such a huge pool of women to pick from. Women compete harder for that small share of men, and many women just accept being single. Increase in single par… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/19 02:23 AM |
| 10 | (Q4MEN) What are some non sexual/non obvious "hoe" traits?Multi colored hair too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/19 12:54 AM |
| 2 | How much sex and female attention are the top 20% of men actually getting?Yup. Just hire a prostitute if banging strange is that important to you. There is more to life than external validation. There are lots of people who can get lots of external validation who just want a meaningful connection to someone who cares for them and who they can talk to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/19 11:07 PM |
| 6 | How much sex and female attention are the top 20% of men actually getting?Yeah but those guys aren't top 20%, those guys are top 1%. Male SMV follows a power law distribution. Being in the top 20% barely gets your foot in the door. Top 5% and women will approach. Top 1% and they throw themselves at you. Top 0.01% and they degrade themselves to throw themselves at you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/19 11:04 PM |
| 1 | The myth of the working-class alphaBeing a lifelong bachelor that has sex is the goal, not marrying Its 'a' goal, not the goal. There is r/k selection theory and TRP focuses on r-strategies of sleeping with an endless string of women, but a lot of men prefer a k-strategy of finding high RMV women to raise 2 kids with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/19 02:34 AM |
| 1 | The myth of the working-class alphaI mean, many would say Russians are red pilled, and alpha You guys worship a thief who steals billions from your country. I wouldn't call you guys alpha. Most 'alphas' are highly deficient in one or more area of their life regarding skills necessary to function in modern society. Thats why so many alphas end up in prison, homeless, chronically low socio-economic status, etc. I agree, being alpha is to a degree a response to a harsh life. Being a beta is generally a side effect of a life of relat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/19 02:28 AM |
| 1 | How attractive are you?Yeah, 6-7 is more accurate. Cute but nothing extraordinary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/19 04:18 PM |
| 16 | What is the honest male 'equivalent' of women's feelings about unwanted attention from men?A book I once read basically said to view it like this. "Imagine being surrounded by a bunch of gay NFL players. They're 6" taller than you, weigh twice as much and their arms are stronger than your legs. They all want to fuck you and will say anything to get you to agree to it. Some will be very aggressive and rude if you say no to them" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/19 01:26 AM |
| 1 | Q4W- How do you, personally, define AMALT?That sounds like something both genders would do, and is why things like dread game exist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/19 10:34 PM |
| 9 | Why do women alienate fathers from seeing their kids?It really sucks because narcissists and sociopaths know how to play the game. Many are very charming in public so everyone thinks the narc is a great person. Only their family see the demon they actually are behind closed doors. And unless you've experienced it yourself, its hard to believe. Many times its the most charming people who are the most evil to their families. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/19 04:47 AM |
| 3 | Why do women alienate fathers from seeing their kids?Now, granted, this is just one side of the story, so I can't vouch for her side. Perhaps he is abusive to the daughter and he's hiding that from me. An acquaintance I know is going through the same thing. They had a messy break up, and he reported her to the police for welfare fraud. As retaliation she is keeping the kids from him. According to him even when she breaks or misses appointments, nothing is done by local law enforcement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/19 04:05 AM |
| 1 | Men are shit at birth controlBut I mentioned in another post, most men I know also know about birth control. There are almost 2 dozen forms of birth control. Condoms suck, but if you're in a relationship and you've both been tested for STDs, there are other ways to prevent pregnancy. I just don't get the idea of having sex with strangers and not wearing a condom. Not only do you have to worry about unwanted pregnancy, you also have to worry about things like STDs. Or what if she does get pregnant, and then you find out you … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/19 02:06 AM |
| 6 | Men are shit at birth controlNot wanting to wear a condom isn't the same thing about not carrying about birth control. Outer course, timing her cycle, iuds, diaphragms, the pill, plan b, etc are all effective methods of birth control. I'm surprised none of the guys op mentions cared about any form of birth control. Almost every guy I know cares about birth control even if they hate condoms. They just use other methods. Not caring about any birth control strikes me as a lower SES attitude about sex. That's how you get four k… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/19 01:24 AM |
| 2 | Men are shit at birth controlYeah but when I had sex I always used some birth control. I didn't like condoms like many guys but there are endless other options. I'm surprised the guys didn't care at all about birth control. Just because they don't like condoms doesn't mean there aren't other ways to prevent pregnancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/19 01:23 AM |
| 24 | Men are shit at birth controlThe men you are meeting are a certain subsection of men looking for ONS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/19 11:05 PM |
| 3 | Q4All: What happens to the increasingly large amount of "left behind" & undesirable men in the dating marketplace? Fallout for society?You're either an idiot or a psycho. Probably both. You also obviously can't read so I'm not going to bother. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/19 02:53 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: What happens to the increasingly large amount of "left behind" & undesirable men in the dating marketplace? Fallout for society?Never said it was your problem. We're having an open discussion here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/19 09:19 PM |
| 0 | Can someone be hot but not be BF material? Im worried my lack of career is holding me back from finding somone.I know you asked for women, but as a guy here is some feedback. You need a better career. Bartenders aren't considered serious not only because they don't make a lot of money, but also because bartendering is associated with a dysfunctional lifestyle that means you aren't husband and father material. Have you considered moving out of the SF area? Really, most people can't afford to live there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/19 09:18 PM |
| 2 | Can someone be hot but not be BF material? Im worried my lack of career is holding me back from finding somone.Cops and military have a huge issue with domestic violence that nobody wants to talk about. The DV rate is about 4x the national average for them. Firefighters supposedly cheat more (no idea if its true though). But yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/19 09:16 PM |
| 6 | Q4All: What happens to the increasingly large amount of "left behind" & undesirable men in the dating marketplace? Fallout for society?Yes but the problem is that in the age of online dating and social media, the % of men who are considered 'desirable' keeps shrinking due to rising standards in the SMP. Men have to be taller, better looking, higher SES, etc. than ever before. Meanwhile the value women bring to the table is declining. Female obesity is up, single motherhood is up, flakiness is up, selfishness is up. Compared to the past, when maybe a female 5 dated a male 5, now it feels like a female 4 wants a male 7. For a lot… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/19 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4All: What happens to the increasingly large amount of "left behind" & undesirable men in the dating marketplace? Fallout for society?I've been saying that there is going to be major consequences for this in 10-20 years on nearly every post I see about failing men. The real answer is I dont know what it will be and I don't think anyone does. I am almost certain though that we will see a rise in suicide, depression, anxiety, acts of aggression (including mass shooting and terrorist acts.) I entirely blame it on social media, OLD, and technology in general. On the plus side, I think there will be an economic surplus due to all t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/19 09:00 PM |
| 19 | Q4All: What happens to the increasingly large amount of "left behind" & undesirable men in the dating marketplace? Fallout for society?Not all men are meant to pass on their genes. That has always been, and always will be. This is true like it or not. Evolution is constantly adapting. In the cruel, cold world of nature women are meant to procreate with men whose genes predispose them to having the traits necessary to fight and overcome whatever environmental obstacles they face. Those obstacles change over time, so the men that women throw themselves at change. A man who women may throw themselves at in environment X could be i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/19 08:54 PM |
| 5 | Q4All: Has online dating and social media inflated the value of the average girl? To blame for sad state of modern guys?pump and dump is more about a woman chasing men out of her league. A 5 can get pump and dumped by a male 8, but she won't get a relationship with him unless there is something exceptional (she has an amazing personality, he has terrible self esteem, he is a user and she is a doormat, etc). Of course when women pursue men out of their league and get PnD, they start saying things like 'men won't man up' to shame the elite men into commitment. But an elite man is also looking for the best match. A … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/19 09:09 PM |
| -12 | My Red Pill Detox has been simply having female friendsYeah but you imply you're desirable to the women, so wouldn't that make you jaded about them being nice? If you were short and native to Poland do you think they'd do the same things. | /r/ExRedPill | 07/08/19 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: Do you have a certain age by which you want children?early 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/19 12:19 AM |
| 1 | Who Overestimates Their Value More?Men are disposable, women are perishable Men's value follows a power law distribution. Most aren't worth much, but the elite tail end are worth something, and the top 1% are worth quite a lot. Women's value follows a linear chart which matches well with SMV. However as women age, the value declines across the board. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/19 02:23 AM |
| 3 | Who Overestimates Their Value More?The fact that women understand that their looks (which they usually understand well) can be converted into attention or goods does not mean they overestimate their value. It’s like saying “god it’s retarded this stupid tacky LV handbag costs thousands of dollars” (ok) versus “this bag is not worth its price” (meanwhile that betch right there buyin it) But thats not the case. Women who really don't bring a lot of objective value to the market are drowning in validation from thirsty men. Women can… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/19 02:19 AM |
| 1 | I want to go to the gym and get a more attractive body, but I’m worried that I would then only attract women that only value looks?My impression is looks get your foot in the door, but personality is what keeps you there. If there is no attraction beyond the superficial most people won't do more than one date (or one sex act with you). However if you're a 10 or so then people will try to compensate for their own dysfunction through you. | /r/ExRedPill | 03/08/19 03:13 PM |
| 3 | I want to go to the gym and get a more attractive body, but I’m worried that I would then only attract women that only value looks?IMO, there is a 'sweet spot' regarding looks, where you are around a 6-8. At that range you're attractive enough that people want to date you, but not so attractive that dysfunctional and superficial people are drawn to you. When you get into the 9-10 range then a lot of broken and damaged people want to seduce you to compensate for their own self esteem and emotional damage. Lots of narcissists, sociopaths, people with low self esteem and traumatic backgrounds, extremely superficial people, peo… | /r/ExRedPill | 02/08/19 09:36 PM |
| 3 | Do you really don't understand why men don't wanna be the "great guy" who ends up with you after you go through all the "assholes"?Exactly. Its like people who are rude and then say it's everyone else's fault for not being able to accept a strong, honest person. If you do things that lower your RMV or SMV, it's not going to work to call people insecure because they are docking you points. As I said, nobody wants to feel like a backup plan for someone who is on a downward slide. That applies to both genders. If as a woman you met a man who used to be better looking and had a better career, but he also used to date women and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/19 05:55 PM |
| 15 | Do you really don't understand why men don't wanna be the "great guy" who ends up with you after you go through all the "assholes"?Not an insecurity, and shaming tactics won't work. Men aren't dumb. They know they are less valuable the same way if a woman meets a man and he invested in and was a gentlemen with his exes, but was very selfish and entitled with her would make her realize she wasn't as valuable to him. Men don't want to be a backup plan. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/19 04:45 PM |
| 19 | Do you really don't understand why men don't wanna be the "great guy" who ends up with you after you go through all the "assholes"?The point is that you can tell how desirable you are based on how people act or what you expect from them | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/19 03:48 PM |
| 31 | Do you really don't understand why men don't wanna be the "great guy" who ends up with you after you go through all the "assholes"?But for men, knowing we have to invest to get sex while Chad did not makes us feel less desirable than him. It's be like if a guy had a history of wining, dining and treating women like princesses, then he met you and he was very selfish and entitled. It would make you feel like a backup and undesirable because of how he treated those other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/19 03:16 PM |
| 5 | Most Chad's I've met in real life are positive and uplifting people, opposed to the archetypal dark triadAs someone who also had family on the cluster B spectrum, it's miserable. Unless you've been there you can't understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/19 08:49 PM |
| 0 | Q4W Is hot enough a thing?What count as presence and prospects? Are prospects resources/status and presence how masculine, competent and capable he comes across? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/19 02:25 AM |
| 2 | Does BP accept or reject the idea of the dual-mating strategy (AFBB) ?Yeah, as time passes and you get older the singles market is more and more full of dysfunctional people who can't form healthy relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/19 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Does BP accept or reject the idea of the dual-mating strategy (AFBB) ?Yeah but that subset is huge. Granted the women who do this have low RMV. I've never met a woman who had Chad's kid, then married Billy beta later who had high RMV. Best to avoid these women altogether except as ons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/19 03:51 PM |
| 1 | How do you know a woman has high SMV?Fertile and healthy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/19 03:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: Straight guys, how open are you to the idea of being sexual with another guy?If a guy wanted to pay me so he could perform oral sex on me I probably wouldn't say no. That's about the only homosexual encounter I'd be willing to do though, and I'd only do it for money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/19 03:25 PM |
| 1 | How would you connect Macroeconomics to the SMP, etc?I think a lot of trpers have personalities that make then prone to STEM fields which can be paying UMC wages but those personalities can make you socially inept. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/19 12:09 AM |
| 5 | Men’s Stock Rises When They Trade in Young WomenThose women don't like those men, they're just prostitutes. They exchange sexual favors for financial incentives. They fuck a rich guy, get money and then go home to their boyfriends who they are actually attracted to. Also only a tiny % of men are successful (wealth, status, etc). And even when men are, it doesn't count for much to most women unless you are in the top 1-5% of wealth and status. And mathematically 95-99% of men are not in that group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 03:04 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you have a secret fetish that no one can know about?what is degenerate? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 02:40 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you have a secret fetish that no one can know about?As a swinger, some fetishes make me feel completely boring and vanilla When I got involved in kink I met women who made me feel normal and vanilla. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you have a secret fetish that no one can know about?My kink is intense loving missionary with eye contact Is this before or after you and your partner read the bible while self flagellating? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 02:33 AM |
| 1 | Q4All: Do you have a secret fetish that no one can know about?you're at 99% for brat tamer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Q4All: Do you have a secret fetish that no one can know about?What is your definition of a weird kink? Because a lot of guys have weird kinks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 02:29 AM |
| 3 | Would you sleep with a married woman?Only if she was poly and her husband was ok with it. I've turned down married women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 02:27 AM |
| 2 | I am female, but I might have gone down the TRP path if I were male.I think you would have become an angry incel if you were a man. There are female incels. The male incels don't accept them, but I've seen them. I'd say 90%+ of them are incel due to mental issues. Either trauma, or low self esteem, or attachment disorders. Also I think that generally women are more likely to self destruct while men are more likely to get angry and blame the world when shit like this happens. | /r/ExRedPill | 23/07/19 02:24 AM |
| 4 | Q4Men: What would you say are the MUST-HAVE traits of a "LTR-worthy" woman? How rare is it for you to find someone with all those traits?I want a girl with purple and green hair, twenty facial piercings and who owns a horse. But she also has to be sane. I'll wait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/19 01:30 AM |
| 13 | Q4Men: What would you say are the MUST-HAVE traits of a "LTR-worthy" woman? How rare is it for you to find someone with all those traits?You want a girl who is a slutty goth, but also sane? Talk about a unicorn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/19 08:01 PM |
| 4 | What do you mean by “pleasant” when describing your ideal woman?Able to communicate disagreement respectfully. Emotionally stable. Willing and able to work on herself. Concerned for the well being of other people | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/19 07:58 PM |
| 3 | How would you describe a unicorn?'Does everything he wants' can be an issue. If a woman is a natural sub that is one thing. If she is so terrified of abandonment that she suppresses her own personality and needs to make a guy like her that is something else. Women like that grow resentful with time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/19 01:54 AM |
| 5 | Did porn raise men's standards?Does a former drill Sergeant make a terrible therapist? Bob Ross wouldn't | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/19 01:07 AM |
| 61 | Did porn raise men's standards?Did Disney movies and romance novels raise women's standards? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/19 12:11 AM |
| 1 | How would you describe a unicorn?Yeah I'm aware. But carriers of sickle cell anemia are asymptomatic and they are resistant to malaria. Which is what I meant. Some of our negative traits are just a trait that is beneficial up to a point, but taken too far. If you have one copy of the gene you are resistant to malaria. If you have two you get sick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 11:00 PM |
| 2 | How would you describe a unicorn?Whats a cool girl? A girl who likes sports and isn't demanding? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 10:36 PM |
| 3 | How would you describe a unicorn?One argument for why mental illness hasn't been purged from our genetic lineage is that like sickle cell anemia, a little bit is beneficial. Too much makes you sick. A little bit of mental illness makes you smarter and more creative. Too much makes you disabled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Height Vs Looks Vs Musclehttps://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/12/12/women-rate-the-strongest-men-as-the-most-attractive-study-finds/?utm_term=.c2c3107d90f5 Supposedly a V shaped torso is more important than height. As a tall male, I haven't noticed much benefit from height alone when I'm overweight. But when I'm thinner and have a V shaped torso, women's response to me is much stronger. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 08:52 PM |
| 18 | How would you describe a unicorn?Emotionally stable, easy to please, reasonably attractive woman with an easy to work with personality who pulls her own weight financially. Most of them are off the market by age 25-30. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 08:49 PM |
| 3 | A persons upbringing and level of family dysfunction is a better indicator or relationship reliability than n-count.I'm joking, its a good thread. However I think people from broken homes who get into therapy can if anything be above average mates. Its the ones from broken homes who never work on themselves who end up as bad mates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 12:38 AM |
| 6 | A persons upbringing and level of family dysfunction is a better indicator or relationship reliability than n-count.I'll be honest, when I saw that typo I just skipped the entire body of text. I have standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/07/19 12:12 AM |
| 3 | An ugly girl is an invisible girlEven that, I don't know. Most women don't use their looks to lock down a high RMV man. Many hot women if anything made terrible decisions with what kinds of guys to date. It seems that by the time a woman has the maturity and life experience to use her looks productively, she is probably old. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/19 02:14 AM |
| 5 | An ugly girl is an invisible girlMany of the women I knew who were hot in their teens and 20s didn't end up with easy lives. They had the same problems everyone else did. Divorce, single parenthood, addiction issues, poverty, layoffs, illness, etc. To me there didn't seem to be any correlation between how hot a girl is and how well her life turned out based on what I've seen of women I've met. Guy's wanting to fuck you a few times and forget about you =/= positive life outcomes. Now granted, if a woman is smart about it, she ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/19 01:46 AM |
| 7 | An ugly girl is an invisible girlHow is that a dream life? Awkward guys hit on you, PUAs looking for sexual validation hit on you, men with cluster B disorders hit on you. Being attractive doesn't necessarily mean you get the kinds of relationships you want with the kinds of men you want. It more means that its easier to get those things if that is what you are looking for. I know lots of attractive women who didn't lead the dream life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/19 01:07 AM |
| 9 | An ugly girl is an invisible girlI've heard from attractive women that while they get attention, it's not the kind of attention that they want from the kind of men that they want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/19 11:59 PM |
| 5 | Could the obesity epidemic be another reason for the sexlessness epidemic?Its possible, but there are sexually active fat people. I think a bigger factor is lower testosterone levels, and online validation making meeting women IRL more difficult. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/19 08:50 PM |
| 5 | Ideas about how to be a beta provider in new eraFor point one, most women aren't worth the hassle of working 80 hours a week. Most women are mediocre, just like most men. Men with self esteem aren't going to work themselves to death for women who aren't very pretty and have a lot of personality issues. I know a guy who is a reasonably attractive white collar professional. He is married to a fat woman with a face that looks like she has been living in a humidor. She also has a shit personality and a kid from a previous marriage. Most men with … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/19 07:45 PM |
| 1 | Leftists and the male sex.We need a mainstream far left party to move the Overton window to the left. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/19 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Leftists and the male sex.In America we have a far right party (the Republicans who are anti democracy, anti science, anti human rights and pro plutocracy) and a center right party (the democrats who favor the kinds of policies New England Republicans used to espouse thirty years ago. Obama liked to 'brag' that in eurupe he was considered a conservative. The center left is progressives and liberals. We don't have a far left outside of a handful of college students on college campuses, or a handful of commune residents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/19 07:56 PM |
| 2 | Leftists and the male sex.We don't have a true far left in the US. What we call the left are social democrats, who believe in capitalism with redistribution, regulations and a welfare state to take the harsh edges off capitalism. That is center left. We don't have a mainstream far leftist movement against capitalism itself. Even many anti capitalist movements are at root more about regulation and redistribution than anti capitalist. These are straw men invented by conservatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/19 07:52 PM |
| 2 | Leftists and the male sex.No because a lot of men enjoy producing for selfish reasons. Having a car, shelter, food, entertainment and Healthcare is nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/19 07:50 PM |
| 8 | Leftists and the male sex.If that happens, wages rise and job conditions improve until the jobs are filled. Failing that, foreign workers are imported or automation investments make the jobs obsolete. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/19 07:48 PM |
| 2 | Leftists and the male sex.I'm a leftist who has also spent time on red pill and MGTOW. Generally leftists can be broken into two camps. Those interested in bringing down the western power structure who use egalitarianism and justice as a bludgeon to do this. Those interested in egalitarianism and justice for their own sake. The first group gives lip service to egalitarianism or fairness, but only when it undermines the western power structure. The western power structure places men over women, whites over non whites, Ame… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/19 07:42 PM |
| 1 | What's up with these rich men hiring escorts for "companionship" ??I spend more time with guys making them feel wanted, validated, listened to. I think a lot of guys want to feel valued, validated and listened to by a woman more than the sex itself. Even in TRP the root goal is to make a woman desire you and to express that desire via sex. The sex itself is secondary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/19 03:30 AM |
| 1 | What's up with these rich men hiring escorts for "companionship" ??Most women aren't that good at being companions. Women are people and people are full of flaws. An escort will be attractive and she will have whatever personality traits you want her to have. Do you want someone attentive who listens? She will do that. Want someone dominant? She will do that. Its no different than paying a therapist. Sure you can talk to a friend for free but your friend isn't going to be nearly as good as the paid therapist to listen and give advice. People aren't that great a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/19 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Is Legality the Only Thing Keeping Omega Dudes From Just Hiring An Escort?Its not about sex for most men. Its about female validation and female approval. Sex is just a sign that a woman desires and validates you. The sex itself is secondary and when you pay for sex you don't get any of the validation. If anything paying for sex is admitting you can't find a woman willing to validate you to a lot of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/19 02:33 PM |
| 1 | TRP, Alpha beta concepts, female hypergamy (aka certain behaviours of female narcissists) PUA/evo psychology/male narcissism, capitalism and sexual exploitation of beta (aka codependent) guys... All explained!Thanks | /r/ExRedPill | 08/07/19 12:34 AM |
| 15 | Is the Sexual Marketplace Crashing?Yeah it's crashing. The top 5-20% of men have soft harems and many men not in the elite are giving up. Chad will fuck a lot of women, the rest of the men will pick porn and video games over IRL women who are becoming more and more unobtainable, and women will complain that men won't 'man up' because Chad won't commit to her. Same as now. It'll suck but it won't collapse society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/19 02:35 PM |
| 1 | How is r/Redpill wrong?Its not 'wrong', its just only good for dysfunctional relationships. Thats whats wrong with it. If you're a dysfunctional man who wants sexual validation from dysfunctional women, then the red pill has good advice. But emotionally healthy women with high RMV generally don't go for red pill tactics. It creates a cycle where you chase after damaged women with low RMV, end up miserable and then say "AWALT" while ignoring the fact that you've been chasing shitty women for sexual validation rather th… | /r/ExRedPill | 07/07/19 12:17 AM |
| 9 | Why do people here keep acting like sex is something a woman "gives" to a man?Whatever gender invests more in procreation is the selective sex. Women are the gender that invests more (I think one way biologists determine an animals sex is by looking at which animal has the larger and less numerous sex cells) Women have far more to lose by making a bad decision with sex since they invest so much more in procreation, so its something men generally have to earn by presenting themselves as good material either for short term or long term mating. Also all this stuff about disc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Do you think it's reasonable to judge men's resources by standards of women's sexuality?A hundred years ago the roles were reversed. A man's income wasn't his wives, but her sexuality belonged to him since marital rape was legal. Not saying it was OK, but it was the old system. Now mens earning capacity has mostly been replaced by the state. In between endless forms of government assistance (housing assistance, medicaid, WIC, food stamps, etc) women don't need Billy beta nearly as much. Also in between child support and alimony women can just take a man's income after the kids are … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 03:16 PM |
| 12 | Do Single Women Seek Attached Men?If a guy is desirable enough to attract and keep a woman that is social proof. Also if he commits that is also good. But again, if he cheats it isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/19 01:00 AM |
| 4 | Red Pill Is Toxic For Relationships Becuase It's A Wrong Interpretation of Game Theory (defections are the norm instead of exceptions)I don't understand your argument. I don't think its wrong that mating has been an arms race of sorts. That is why in many species the male is physically larger than the female. Because the gender with less valuable sex cells has to compete for opportunities to mate. And men have evolved to trick women while women have evolved to pick up on those tricks and counteract them. Having said that, I agree mating doesn't have to be zero sum where one side winning means the other side loses. Mating can b… | /r/ExRedPill | 03/07/19 09:05 PM |
| 2 | Q4M: What elements of “low status” do you think are within your control to change?You can improve your social status by being self aware. Building a career and being financially responsible will increase your status. But realistically there are limits. Intelligence and personality have a lot of genetic basis. Also a wide range of illnesses can affect your brain and body, destroying your status. You can be Chad version 8.0. But if you get brain cancer or have a psychotic break, you're status will drop to zero pretty quick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/19 12:13 AM |
| 0 | Q4W: How do you let men down? What are common reasons you let them down? How difficult is it to let someone down?What are pale eyes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 11:21 PM |
| 2 | Are ‘backups’ really as common as I’m being led to believe?If they'll commit to endless women they aren't backups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 10:37 PM |
| 5 | How good are you *actually* at spotting red flags, vetting, reading people, and leaving bad situations?Yeah I know sadly. You either become your parents and married to people like them, or you become and marry the opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 10:35 PM |
| 12 | How good are you *actually* at spotting red flags, vetting, reading people, and leaving bad situations?A lot of the time if you find yourself constantly drawn to sociopaths and narcissists its probably because your parents acted like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Are ‘backups’ really as common as I’m being led to believe?I have noticed that romantic comedies (which are obviously targeted towards women) tend to involve multiple high SMV and high RMV men all fighting for the chance to commit to and invest in the female protagonist. So yeah, only a tiny % of women can have multiple decent men who would function as backups. Are your guys who would agree to be backups average, below average, above average, etc? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Are ‘backups’ really as common as I’m being led to believe?Fair enough. I do wonder what % of women have enough SMV/RMV that they can have multiple backups. I'd assume its about the same % of men who have enough SMV that they can easily get ONS. Probably the 5-20% range. Probably closer to 5%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 10:14 PM |
| 6 | Are ‘backups’ really as common as I’m being led to believe?I just know that at any moment there’s a handful of men who would propose to me if I made it even slightly apparent I would be into it. Yes but what % of women do you think actually have this option? The gender ratio in the real world (not online) is 1:1. And we are a (somewhat) monogamous culture. So if you have 5 guys willing to commit to you, that means 4 women aren't getting any commitment. So I'm guessing only a minority of elite women can count on having backups. Beautiful, young women wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 10:03 PM |
| 6 | Q4A: What do you think are the main differences in how men and women are attracted to each other?Yeah, but there's a difference between a woman marrying a guy solely because she wants a babysitter for Chad's kids who has a wallet, and her selecting a guy she finds attractive who has a good personality and decent career so she can have kids with him. Lots of women pick the second. The first group of women need to be avoided like the plague. They'll abuse and cheat on the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 05:24 PM |
| 6 | Q4A: What do you think are the main differences in how men and women are attracted to each other?The mark of a man is leaving the world a better place than it was before you got here. Safer, freer, wealthier, healthier, more educated, more advanced, sustainable. Building a better world for the next generation and shepherding them into it is the mark of true maturity for both genders. Stage 7. I've had women lust over me back when I was attractive. It was nice but not life altering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 05:17 PM |
| 3 | Q4A: What do you think are the main differences in how men and women are attracted to each other?Mating is at root selfish and self centered. Men look for useful women and women look for useful men. Attractive and desirable people are useful for ones own selfish agenda. Chad is also at root just an object. I'm not sure why that is a higher status role. Chad gets sex, but sex can be rented. Done right, at least a woman will care if Billy beta gets cancer. She will walk out on Chad if he does or lose interest in him when the cancer affects his looks. And before people laugh, there are many st… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 05:02 PM |
| 3 | Q4A: What do you think are the main differences in how men and women are attracted to each other?My point is lots of women never pursue a pump and dump strategy with men out of their league. They look for financially and emotionally healthy men in their league for LTRs and never pursue ONS with Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 04:12 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: What do you think are the main differences in how men and women are attracted to each other?Sexual strategy has both short term and long term mating strategies for both genders. Short term women like dominant, good looking bad boys with dark triad personality traits. Short term men like slutty, psychologically damaged women since they are easier to manipulate and have sex earlier in the relationship. But neither gender wants those psychological traits for long term mating. People still desire good looks, but they want someone in their league. Someone out of their league is more likely … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 02:45 PM |
| 2 | Q4A: What do you think are the main differences in how men and women are attracted to each other?Women's attraction is based on a wider range of criteria than men's attraction. Women need a man who not only has good genetics, but also resources. As well as a man who won't abandon them and the children down the road. Men are more concerned with markers of fertility (youth, beauty, etc). Women value good looks, but it's just one of several criteria they use. And the value they place on criteria change based on their age and point in life. Resources may be top priority in their thirties while … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Why do people despise MGTOW?It's not men going their own way. It's angry, bitter, resentful men complaining about women. Many MGTOW men are either undesirable to women and resentful because of this, or they have gotten burned by women in part due to their own bad decisions with them (pursuing bad women for bad Relationships) . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/19 12:33 PM |
| 3 | Q4ALL: Has dating in the past 10 years become easier, or more difficult? Why for either case?I don't know. I've got fairly good game and understand quite a bit about psychology and what mating is really about. Maybe I'm less attractive than I think I am. But the last half dozen or so women who gave me IOIs IRL were out of my league IMO (they were all 7s and 8s, I'd consider myself a 4 or 5). I have no idea honestly. Luckily I'm getting older and its less important with age. I'm glad as an average guy you've figured it out. But you are the exception. Most average guys get nowhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/19 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Q4ALL: Has dating in the past 10 years become easier, or more difficult? Why for either case?Men's evaluation of women's looks follows a bell curve distribution. https://cdn.corporatefinanceinstitute.com/assets/bell-curve-1024x513.png Women's evaluation of men's looks follows a power law distribution. https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*FLyS1quRikOyL_-dCA73yg.png Men rate women pretty fairly. Some are ugly, some are hot, many are in the middle. Women rate most men as invisible and only focus on the tail end of the power law distribution. All the attention goes to elite men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/19 10:10 PM |
| 7 | Q4ALL: Has dating in the past 10 years become easier, or more difficult? Why for either case?If you are average-looking with realistic expectations, dating has gotten a -lot- easier. I disagree totally. For men dating has gotten easier for the top 5-20%. For all the other men it is harder. If you are an average guy, you have to deal with endless average women who are extremely flaky and demanding. Its an uphill climb. I still can't figure out why its harder for women. I'm an intelligent person and I've even asked women to explain it to me. What is hard about having an endless pool of me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/19 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: are men “emotional gold diggers?”LOL. ego defense mechanisms I'm not shaming males. I'm a male. I'm pointing out that red pill teaches men who crave validation how to obtain it from dysfunctional women. Then those same men blame women for the miserable outcomes of their bad decisions rather than look honestly at themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 11:29 PM |
| 8 | Is online dating fucking up the minds of men? Is it better to stay away from it?This has brought a huge wave of self improvement, which is a good thing in a way. The problem is what constitutes self improvement? Is getting lean and jacked so thots with tattoos, kids and gigantic egos want to fuck you really a laudable self improvement goal? What about self improvement to develop inner peace? or become financially stable? Or find an enjoyable career? or contribute to solving world problems like the rise of neofascism, climate change, soil erosion, global poverty, etc? Part o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: are men “emotional gold diggers?”Ah. For whatever reason I thought you were sad because you like red pill and felt I was bashing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: are men “emotional gold diggers?”Why is that sad? Not everyone engages in that behavior. TRP is full of men who for one reason or another (probably low self esteem, or backgrounds of rejection/abuse/neglect) have a deep seated need for female validation to soothe the emotional wounds they have. So they pursue female validation, and the women most prone to giving validation are dysfunctional (women with self esteem issues, borderline personality disorder, dependent personality disorder, etc). Those women are also very very low i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 04:39 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: are men “emotional gold diggers?”Thats what red pill is at root. Looking/acting however you think you need to look and act to obtain (sexual) validation from women. Then pursuing the most deranged and emotionally dysfunctional 20% of women since those women are far more likely to give you sexual validation than emotionally healthy women. Then being burned and unhappy with women so much because you pursued low quality shit women that you join MGTOW. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 02:23 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: are men “emotional gold diggers?”We ain't messing with no broke niggas | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/19 02:19 PM |
| 9 | CMV: For men, worthwhile relationships exist but they are so rare that actively looking for one is NOT worth the effort.Enlighten me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Television shows where “homely” men get “the girl”?Teenagers are women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 08:45 PM |
| 3 | Television shows where “homely” men get “the girl”?In real life Screech said he fucked over 2000 women. Many of whom he picked up at Disneyland | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 08:29 PM |
| 7 | Television shows where “homely” men get “the girl”?King of Queens Seinfeld (all the women were out of George, Jerry & Kramers leagues) Married with Children (Peg was hotter than Al) Portia De Rossi and David Cross on Arrested Development | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 08:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men Are DangerousA small % of men are dangerous. I think over the course of their lives, about 5% of men will rape someone. Of that 5%, an even smaller percentage are serial sex criminals (people like Bill Cosby with 60+ victims). I believe 1-2% of men commit 60% of the sex crimes, I think the figures are around that area (that is what I've heard). A tiny % of men will sexually assault numerous women, and make up the majority of the sex crimes in society. These men tend to have mental illnesses like anti-social … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 07:25 PM |
| 3 | CMV: For men, worthwhile relationships exist but they are so rare that actively looking for one is NOT worth the effort.I disagree | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 07:21 PM |
| 23 | CMV: For men, worthwhile relationships exist but they are so rare that actively looking for one is NOT worth the effort.I believe this. But it's like looking for a speck of gold on a white beach. People of both genders are so fucked up that a meaningful, happy relationship is very hard to find and build. I would wager only about 5-10% of relationships are mutually happy and will remain that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 07:13 PM |
| 9 | CMV: For men, worthwhile relationships exist but they are so rare that actively looking for one is NOT worth the effort.When the woman outearns the man, it increases the likelihood of cheating for both partners. For the man he cheats because he feels emasculated. For the woman she cheats because she doesn't respect the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Handsome Wants as Handsome Does: Physical Attractiveness and Gender Differences in Revealed Sexual PreferencesSo very attractive men only have 3 more partners than average and somewhat attractive men, 4 more than ugly men (10, 7 and 6 respectively)? That's not that big a difference honestly. A hooker starts at $100. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/19 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Why pro-male activism isn't nearly as widespreed as female one?Because we men are already in charge and the system reflects our wants. Other than divorce/family court and reproductive rights*, men are already the dominant gender. *as far as reproductive rights, its a mixed bag. On one hand the government isn't trying to control men's reproductive medical care but on the other a man has no say on whether his child is aborted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/19 12:36 PM |
| 1 | The Real Reason why you don't see 5/10 girls with 5/10 guys (Or How I Learned That Rating Women With Numbers Is Stupid).Yeah but they don't get Chad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/19 10:19 PM |
| 4 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.I appreciate your responses. As a guy I don't get to hear this pov enough. Personally I tend to assume women having guys want to fuck them and nothing else is about like men having women want men to buy them things and nothing else. If guys wore their bank account values on their chest and women all went to the well off guys and tried to get them to buy them shoes and food, it wouldn't be validating or exciting for men. It would be alienating and insulting. You have something valuable and people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 08:12 PM |
| 5 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.Is this a common attitude among women you know? As a guy I've always assumed average women think they deserve the hot guy because all the thirsty men in their league being thrown at them make them inflate their own SMV and deflate men's SMV. So a woman who is a 6 has tons of male 6s thrown at her until she sees herself as a 7 and sees those men as 4s and 5s. So when she sees a guy who is a 9 irl she thinks he is a 7,which is what she thinks she is. But then reality hits her and she realizes how … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 08:01 PM |
| 6 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.Maybe porn makes the alternative easier. Guys will put up with less hassle from irl women when they have porn available. So in that regards I would guess mens demands have gone up because they need women a little less, but they've gone up at the same time a lot of men feel women's demands have gone up due to online dating and easy online validation. Many men feel locked out while women pursue a minority of elite men. So men feel the work to get and keep a woman gets harder while alternatives lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 07:33 PM |
| 9 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.My impression is they think if all those guys are options their standards go up both positive standards (he must have xyz) and negative standards (he can't have xyz). The end result is 50% of women all feel they deserve the top 10% of men and the math doesn't work for that on a monogamous culture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.How often does that happen irl though? My impression is porn is like a microwave hotdog while sex in a relationship is like a nice dinner. One is just to temporarily fulfill the appetite and the other is a more meaningful meal. If a guy chooses porn over a real woman there is likely a reason. Probably because he feels his physical or emotional needs aren't being met the same way a woman will choose a vibrator and romance novel when she feels ignored and unwanted by her boyfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.I disagree. Men watch porn but they don't expect women irl to be models. However their sexual appetites may become more bizarre as a result. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 06:49 PM |
| 8 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.Pretty much. For guys you can fight like dogs to win mediocre women who feel they deserve better than you or you can watch porn and video games. It's not a hard decision for lots of guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 06:47 PM |
| 3 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 06:47 PM |
| 7 | Online dating is damaging to relationships due to grass is greener effect on majority of women and a small portion of men.When I've met women who were online they usually got about 50-200 matches on the first week and the it leveled off into a trickle of maybe 10-20 a week after that. Still a ton but not a thousand either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Sleeping with 500 men is feminist, not slutty.I used to be attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 01:45 PM |
| 1 | The Real Reason why you don't see 5/10 girls with 5/10 guys (Or How I Learned That Rating Women With Numbers Is Stupid).40% of women are obese. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 02:53 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: Are Western/Liberal Women Weaker than Traditional Women?Also perfect health, no bad luck, surplus income, self actualization, a solution to global problems, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/19 01:05 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: Are Western/Liberal Women Weaker than Traditional Women?They didn't have a wide range of therapies or antidepressants in the past. If people are less happy it's because a higher standard of living has raised our standards for life to unsustainable levels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: Are Western/Liberal Women Weaker than Traditional Women?How is progress a lie? Society is more educated. Less violent. Less tolerant of abuse and cruelty. More egalitarian. Iq is higher due to the Flynn effect. We have better science and technology. More wealth. Better communication tools. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 11:33 PM |
| 3 | Sleeping with 500 men is feminist, not slutty.At the end of the day, women are people and as people they have a lot of undesirable physical and mental traits like anyone else. Thinking their validation can complete you is folly. If you want easy sex it's easier to pay for it . | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 11:08 PM |
| 5 | Discussion: Are Western/Liberal Women Weaker than Traditional Women?Were people more happy when people were meaner, less educated, less intelligent and less concerned with global sustainability? But anyway, yeah its worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 08:50 PM |
| 3 | Discussion: Are Western/Liberal Women Weaker than Traditional Women?It's a trade off. We are all weaker, but we're better people too. More compassionate, civilized and educated than the generations before us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 08:37 PM |
| 13 | Sleeping with 500 men is feminist, not slutty.As a guy, once you are desirable enough to fuck endless women the appeal kind of disappears. It's like an all you can eat buffet, it's much more appealing to starving people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/19 08:24 PM |
| 2 | What does it really mean when some very good-looking women claim “men never approach me”?The idea that lots of decent upstanding men approach 9/10s offering the things most women want, like commitment and love, is easily disproved. I have a theory on why so many women claim they hate being cold approached. I think a lot of men who do cold approaches are either PUA compensating for deep seated emotional wounds, or they are cluster B men, namely men with antisocial personality disorder or narcissism. Narcissists think they're doing women a favor by approaching (think of Trump and his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Where did this assumption that only good looking men screw women over come from?yup | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/19 09:51 PM |
| 7 | Men of PPD who are attracted to chubby womenIt's not a humble brag. I can't figure it out. I'm either better looking or uglier than I think. I'm not sure which one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 03:32 PM |
| 1 | Q4M - If someone asked you to help them find a "nice" potential romantic partner, what would you look for?The traits listed in this book, which is about looking for high RMV traits https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/36160628-the-tactical-guide-to-women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 02:58 PM |
| 11 | Men of PPD who are attracted to chubby womenI like chubby women but they don't respond well to me. In my experience skinnier women respond better to me. Maybe (hopefully, but doubtful) its because I'm underestimating my own SMV and hitting on women lower on the 1-10 scale than myself. But who knows. Either way many chubby women freeze up like deer in headlights when I hit on them. I've heard its because they have self confidence issues, but I've met several who were very demanding with high standards. So I really don't know. I personally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Men of PPD who are attracted to chubby womenBy realistic modern American standard, those women are average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/19 02:54 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".Metabolism and appetite are balanced by the body. If your body needs 2000 calories a day you'll crave about that amount. If you need 7000 a day you'll crave that amount. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 07:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".Metabolism and caloric intake are balanced by the body. In my 20s when I exercised and was more muscular I'd have symptoms of a metabolic slowdown when I went below 3000 calories a day. My maintenance was about 4500 a day. I knew even more muscular guys who had metabolic slowdown below 4000a day. You'd get light headed, dizzy, obsessed with food, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 07:29 PM |
| 9 | CMV: Most men severely underestimate the work women do in terms of working out/diet to just "not be fat".Weight loss is harder for women. Both because of their lower caloric intake they can't run deficits as large but also because female sex hormones tend to cause weight gain while make sex hormones cause weight loss. Having said that, most people in the real world are fat and out of shape. It's just the way things are. I'm not sure where all these women who are successfully dieting are. After the age of 30 a woman (or man) on shape becomes the exception by far rather than the rule. Even most skinn… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 07:22 PM |
| 3 | What's it Like Dating Men With Options and Do you Prefer it?Possibly but as a man until you hit the top 5% your options are limited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 04:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Most women severely underestimate the work men do in the gym and overestimate the gains.If your diet, drug regimen and sleep are good it's not hard to build enough muscle to be attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 03:16 PM |
| 1 | How do you find a woman when you are over 30?Ps keep paying for my things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 01:19 PM |
| 3 | How do you find a woman when you are over 30?Yeah but a woman who resents you and mistreat you while you pay her bills and raise her kids? That's not fair but that's the market after a certain age. Better to be single | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 01:54 AM |
| 6 | How do you find a woman when you are over 30?Yup. And they browbeat and resent billy beta while demanding he pay them for the privilege or raising someone else's kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/19 12:54 AM |
| 2 | Discussion: what is the optimal body type for a guy to be sexually attractive?body fat isn't really whats important in men or women. Its ratios. For men its a waist that is 75% the size of their shoulders or less. When I was in college and had 24% bodyfat, women still responded positively to me due to my broad shoulders and (relatively) small waist compared to shoulders . However I've never been able to figure if this was diameter or circumference for men. But BMI and bodyfat aren't as important as ratios. Having said that, women aren't so much into super muscular guys. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 09:45 PM |
| 8 | Why are women generally not honest about the characteristics they are looking for in a man?I think men say they want a stable woman who is wife and mother material, but they fall for broken, damaged women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 09:39 PM |
| 10 | Why are women generally not honest about the characteristics they are looking for in a man?The triple six. 6' tall, 6" penis, 6 figure income. I prefer the 4 P's. Women want a guy who has traits that signify he has the 4 P's. Protector, provider, parent, partner (good looks are a mix of good parent as it is good genetic material, and good health which makes you better at all 4) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 09:37 PM |
| 2 | Why are women generally not honest about the characteristics they are looking for in a man?Because people have short term and long term mating strategies. The stuff women say they want are for long term mating. The stuff that you see them pursue is for short term mating strategies. Good looking men with dominant traits and dark triad traits are valued for short term mating. Also lots of women do try to lock down a high RMV man in their 20s. They just dont' end up on redpill. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 09:32 PM |
| 2 | How a Toxic Woman Influenced Me To Take The Red Pill, and How I Learned To Vomit It Out.I had to do therapy to work on the fact that the reason I craved female validation was because I had felt abandoned, repulsive and unwanted at various vulnerable times in my life. When I started accepting and working on those emotions the desire to chase endless women to use their approval for validation went down. It's still there but not overpowering like it used to be. I'd wager a lot of people in pua either has selfish and abusive parents, or backgrounds where they felt a lot of shame and re… | /r/ExRedPill | 20/06/19 04:49 PM |
| 1 | Purple Pill Men Are NaturalsAlthough I'm sure most women have that happen (multiple guys in committed relationships offering to cheat with them), only the top 5% of men would experience the same thing. But it does seem to fuck them up in their ability to trust women from what I've seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 02:46 AM |
| 8 | Purple Pill Men Are NaturalsMy impression is red pill is concerned with obtaining validation from women and short term mating strategies, and as a result they pursue dysfunctional women since those women are the most prone to giving men validation (although they'll make a man's life a nightmare in the long run). Purple pill is more a holistic attempt to understand mating strategies for both short and long term mating, and incorporating that info into your daily life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 01:20 AM |
| 6 | Purple Pill Men Are NaturalsI disagree. I'm purple pill and I'm not in the top 5%. If you said purple pill are the most experienced or informed about mating I would agree with you. Blue pill can be naive, red pill is obsessed with short term mating strategies that work on cluster B women (which is a tiny aspect of mating overall), black pill isn't holistic. I think a lot of purple pill people end up as purple pill because they saw the shortcomings of both blue and red pill. But I wouldn't call them the most desirable men. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/06/19 01:15 AM |
| 2 | How a Toxic Woman Influenced Me To Take The Red Pill, and How I Learned To Vomit It Out.He said about 80% had narc mom's. I did and I'm ex pua. I think it's because you think that's how a woman is supposed to act and you develop a deep seated need to obtain female validation after being starved of it as a child. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/06/19 02:39 AM |
| 2 | How a Toxic Woman Influenced Me To Take The Red Pill, and How I Learned To Vomit It Out.Neil Strauss (ex PUA guru) claims most people in the PUA lifestyle had self absorbed or narcissistic mothers. Thats a valid claim IMO. Growing up with an abusive or selfish mother really fucks up how you relate to women. | /r/ExRedPill | 19/06/19 01:56 AM |
| 1 | What is your favorite place to meet potential relationship hookup /partners?Internet dating was a different game in the late 90s and early aughts. Before it caught on and women were overwhelmed with replies, it worked better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/19 12:55 AM |
| 3 | Did you ever make a man cry? Did you lose respect for him?Their. I know I'll get written off as blue pill for saying this (I'm purple pill) but you guys should listen to what women say they want instead of telling them what they want. Are some people full of shit? Yes. But lots of people can be pretty insightful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/19 12:52 AM |
| 9 | Did you ever make a man cry? Did you lose respect for him?We found the NAWALTs gents! Or, women are a better source of info about how women actually act than angry frustrated men trying to sleep with them are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men fail to realize 'chad' is good with women because he put years of effort into it?You can change your appearance with lifestyle (and drugs, and surgery). But its difficult as hell if your body wants you to look a different way. Most people who try usually don't succeed long term. Its a daily struggle while for some people they are naturally thin no matter what they eat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 10:31 PM |
| 1 | Women DON'T want to be with men they find sexually sexually desirable for a long-term relationship. They don't want a familial guy for a short-term relationship.I'm glad things worked out for you. Red pill really underestimates how important having a good conversation and activity partner is in long term mating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 07:32 PM |
| 1 | Women DON'T want to be with men they find sexually sexually desirable for a long-term relationship. They don't want a familial guy for a short-term relationship.Women do want the buff guy as a husband and father. Alpha bucks is a thing. The problem is 95%+ of women aren't good enough to keep him and they know it. Women want a guy who won't abandon her and the children. Chad and his v shaped torso aren't worth much if he is out fucking college girls while you are at home raising the kids by yourself. Women want alpha bucks, but know they aren't good enough to keep him interested in her and her alone. So they pursue a dual af/bb strategy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Would you rather date a silicon valley CEO company founder or a nurse?The nurse. Income above a certain level isn't as important anymore. If we have a house, cars and health care I'm pretty much satisfied. Also a nurse making 85k a year is still a really good income. Plus nurses tend to be into weird sex stuff at home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 07:25 PM |
| 1 | What are your experiences with age gap relationships?In a BDSM relationship, an age gap can be a positive thing. It adds to the power imbalance that both parties are intentionally seeking. In a vanilla relationship its not a good thing though as people's life experiences, maturity and priorities are different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 04:38 AM |
| 2 | Do attractive men, who could easily get hookups, not need the validation from hookups?Is spinning plates just a compensating tactic former "beta's" use to validate themselves, thereby confirming that they need the validation and have not escaped their beta mentality? Yup. 100% this. A lot of people who end up in PUA, MGTOW, etc. view women as tools to obtain validation from rather than as people to have relationships with. Usually to compensate for deep seated emotional injuries from the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 04:34 AM |
| 1 | [Q4RP] Why doesn't Pareto's Principle(80/20) apply to women?Arguably 20% of the women are having 80% of the sex. A small % of women have a large number of sex partners. So when guys say they've had X number of sex partners, it is probably a small minority of women they're all sharing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 04:32 AM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: What inferences can we make from the phenomenon of unattractive male celebrities having attractive female partners?Someone once made a video outlining in generic terms what women want from men. It basically went. Resources and capital Good genetics Alpha traits Resources can come from many forms. Social capital (fame), political capital (power), financial capital (money). But as long as you have the ability to influence others, withstand stress and bend the world to your will, women respond positively. And some women are willing to overlook good genetics (aka good looks) for resources. The real question is i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/19 04:31 AM |
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