FlightsFancy Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	That “male privilege” though "every time a woman has been hurting me during sex and I told her to calm down or stop, she said "I can't help it" and continued, even despite further protestations...Strange that none of those women have even seen a courtroom" Did you report being assaulted by these women?	/r/MensRights	16/10/17 07:53 PM
1	Just want to leave some quotes for you guys here. ...Warren Farrell, anyone?	/r/MensRights	31/10/13 10:09 PM
12	27 Male Survivors Of Sexual Assault Quoting The People Who Attacked Them Do you know why Buzzfeed ran the male survivor post? Non-feminist men complained about the lack of male survivors in the original post. What are you basing this on? Did a Buzzfeed editor or other staff member say this was the case? How do you know it was "non-feminist men" making the complaint? I ask because I'm a woman, and a feminist, and I replied to the original post requesting another post featuring male victims of sexual assault. There weren't many public comments from other users requesti…	/r/MensRights	25/09/13 03:10 AM
1	A Crown Prosecution Service report has found that around two false rape allegations are made every month, and that 'damaging myths harm real rape victims'. TIL that because the UK age of consent is 16, my question about a 13 year old being raped is not worth answering. Men who rape that have mental problems don't get a free pass Uh, what? If their mental health problem is documented, that is taken into consideration by the police, the legal representative of the accused, the prosecutor, the judge/jury during sentencing... It's not a "free pass," but their status is definitely taken into account.	/r/MensRights	06/09/13 06:42 PM
1	A Crown Prosecution Service report has found that around two false rape allegations are made every month, and that 'damaging myths harm real rape victims'. As someone who works in mental health (specifically, with first-incident mood disorders), I definitely do know what I'm talking about.	/r/MensRights	06/09/13 06:36 PM
-4	A Crown Prosecution Service report has found that around two false rape allegations are made every month, and that 'damaging myths harm real rape victims'. Or you could, y'know, read the article OP linked to. According to the article you did not bother to read: Police have found that most "false accusers" were under the age of 21, and/or had mental health problems. So yes, let's punish paranoid schizophrenics and those with untreated bipolar disorder with JAIL TIME. That's the ticket! Also worth noting: when the alleged victim was under the UK's age of consent, in 50% of those cases, a parent made the false accusation. If your 13 year-old told you …	/r/MensRights	06/09/13 02:03 AM
1	Colleges offer credit to students who enter ‘feminist thinking’ into Wikipedia The only mention of "princesses" in this thread says women are treated like princesses, not being princesses I'm not sure you understand how words work, or you were so desperate to invalidate my points that you didn't even spare the time to read the original quote I referred to: The entire reason for all of this nonsense is because women are usually protected princesses, and men are thrown in the fucking mud. Let's look at that again: women are usually protected princesses. Not "treated like." A…	/r/MensRights	03/09/13 09:47 PM
0	Colleges offer credit to students who enter ‘feminist thinking’ into Wikipedia I really don't have the time or inclination to educate you in how "the neutral reporting of reality" is impossible. You might choose to educate yourself on this topic (I'd start with Plato, but that may be above your pay grade) but essentially, Wikipedia, as an "Encyclopedia anyone can edit" exists to illustrate the dialectic form: you put together a number of different subjective perspectives, and by combining them, you can have a more objective understanding. Right now, the perspective of Wiki…	/r/MensRights	03/09/13 09:09 PM
1	Colleges offer credit to students who enter ‘feminist thinking’ into Wikipedia It's like you've never even been to wikipedia. Pretty much every gender related topic is infected with feminist bullshit I guess, to you, "acknowledging women's perspectives and contributions" = "feminist bullshit." But if you could link to a Wiki article that is "infected with feminist bullshit" and actually prove your point instead of making a baseless claim, then we could discuss it like rational adults. you'd just doxx the key female contributors, abuse the "Report Abuse" button, and send ra…	/r/MensRights	03/09/13 08:34 PM
1	Colleges offer credit to students who enter ‘feminist thinking’ into Wikipedia Thank you. I appreciate the support!	/r/MensRights	03/09/13 08:03 PM
-15	Colleges offer credit to students who enter ‘feminist thinking’ into Wikipedia Why are MEN so afraid to let WOMEN speak? All I've read in this post is a lot of fear-mongering and hatred directed towards women, who (according to the upvoted comments on this thread) are all lazy, stupid, "princesses" who let men do all the "hard work" (editing Wikipedia articles) for them. That this article was posted by a conservative watchdog group that promotes "traditional values" (like women being subservient to their husbands) hasn't even come up. Neither has the fact that the perspect…	/r/MensRights	01/09/13 05:42 PM
0	CNN feminist says fathers get too much credit: "fathers are only 3.4% of parents at home full time ... only about half as much time as mothers spend ... men hold on to the tired assumption that fathering a child makes them manlier." I understand your point, but look at it logically: even if a person takes every precaution to prevent an accident and an accident still happens, they are still responsible for what occurred. When a pregnancy occurs, someone will become a parent. There will be a child in the world that needs to be fed, cared for, and kept in good health with access to education. Why should that burden fall to society, instead of the people who decided to have sex (knowing the risks, taking precautions, but still …	/r/MensRights	12/07/13 04:56 AM
0	CNN feminist says fathers get too much credit: "fathers are only 3.4% of parents at home full time ... only about half as much time as mothers spend ... men hold on to the tired assumption that fathering a child makes them manlier." Okay, just to review: you have sex with women JUST so you won't be mocked? You're willing to risk becoming a parent when you're not ready because you're afraid of what your coworkers and employers think? I...don't know what to tell you. I think it's a really, really good idea that you not have sex right now, because you don't seem to be mature enough to handle the consequences of having, or not having, sex. Grownups make those decisions every day. Grownups don't say they "don't have a choice" to…	/r/MensRights	12/07/13 04:20 AM
-5	CNN feminist says fathers get too much credit: "fathers are only 3.4% of parents at home full time ... only about half as much time as mothers spend ... men hold on to the tired assumption that fathering a child makes them manlier." Uh, don't men have the option of wearing condoms? Or remaining celibate? Getting a vasectomy? Men make the decision not to become parents all the time. But hey, what would this movement be without wild hyperbole, eh.	/r/MensRights	10/07/13 10:03 PM
-10	Northwestern student gov't nominee's confirmation blocked because he is a ‘heterosexual white male’ then there must be positions for which only white guys are the only people qualified sigh You're clearly not familiar with the Vatican.	/r/MensRights	18/05/13 07:05 PM
-5	Northwestern student gov't nominee's confirmation blocked because he is a ‘heterosexual white male’ Thank you for this. It's pretty clear that the other commenters just Do Not Get It.	/r/MensRights	18/05/13 07:02 PM
1	Girl who cried Rape If the 19 year old didn't have enough self-control or maturity (or basic decency) to stop when she said she didn't want to have sex, why was he having sex with a teenage girl?	/r/MensRights	27/02/13 08:02 PM
-21	Harvard Law Review to introduce gender affirmative action. Its anonymous merit-based selection process is too discriminatory Affirmative action is a complex issue, and the application of the policy is not always handled in the best way. For example, the general assumption that women and minorities in academia, whether it's law school, med school, or a STEM field, didn't get there on their own merits is incredibly damaging to those groups when they start classes or start the job hunt. So, whatever slight "advantage" women or minorities might have when they apply to school evaporates pretty quickly the moment they set f…	/r/MensRights	23/02/13 03:55 PM
-13	Harvard Law Review to introduce gender affirmative action. Its anonymous merit-based selection process is too discriminatory Uh, a couple things. If OP had read the article, they'd know that the selection process for the Law Review hasn't changed significantly. The "anonymous merit-based selection process" is still in place. The hiring committee simply added 2 spots to the roster of editors who are chosen by looking at factors "that incorporate applicants’ grades, writing test scores, race, and any physical disabilities into their decisions" and are now adding gender as a criteria. The other 32 "merit-based" editorial…	/r/MensRights	23/02/13 03:29 PM
1	I don't even know what to say about this banner. Have you ever considered that, due to your interpretation, you may have internalized some very negative ideas about "male nature"?	/r/MensRights	12/02/13 05:22 AM
1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Riiiiight. I look like a fool. Because I'm the one peddling misquotes and statements that no one ever said, and presenting them as gospel truth. I did misspeak when I said your fantasy-based rage was "mindless." I should have said "delusional" instead.	/r/MensRights	08/02/13 03:43 AM
2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Well, you make a fair point. As you clearly don't have a shred of intellectual honesty, and you're not ashamed to blatantly and willfully misrepresent an author or speaker if it fits your personal agenda, I doubt I can gain anything from further discussion with you. I certainly don't need to re-read your rather pathetic attempts at justifying your presentation of inaccurate, badly misquoted and decontextualized statements as "proof" of the evils of feminism. You did a fine job of digging your ow…	/r/MensRights	08/02/13 03:41 AM
2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. More proof that you can't even engage with your own ideas at a basic level, much less anyone else's. Maybe next time you should leave the straw-manning to an MRA who is actually interested in more than simple trolling.	/r/MensRights	08/02/13 12:08 AM
1	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Yeah, I don't understand how someone can demonstrate their comprehension of literary analysis by citing Wikipedia. I replied to him in the comment thread too, but it seems like Idiopathic77 is incapable of defending his misquote beyond saying, "a fictional character said this in a book, so obviously it's equivalent to a direct statement from the author!" Please. /rolls eyes	/r/MensRights	07/02/13 11:54 PM
2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. I don't understand why you feel justified in personally attacking vivadisgrazia because she simply points out how you've misquoted or erroneously quoted French (among others) in your post. You can't seem to defend yourself without name-calling. Saying that vivadisgrazia is "denser than last year's fruitcake" or accusing her of being "thick" makes you sound very childish and overly-defensive. Apart from the extreme inaccuracies in your post, you are making yourself appear even less credible by be…	/r/MensRights	07/02/13 11:42 PM
2	Fleshing out the straw feminist. Too bad that the quotations OP used were misquotes, wrongly attributed, or never said at all. But have fun with your mindless rage based on a fantasy version of "feminism."	/r/MensRights	07/02/13 11:21 PM
0	Alberta Student newspaper - "MRAs misunderstand feminism" And when, exactly, is this done? Where? Which cultures practice it?	/r/MensRights	25/01/13 07:06 PM
132	I believe this is somewhat related to this sub, especially with the excessive pollution of modern new age tumblr feminism. Quiet, you! Everyone knows that the feminazis are just one big global organization with endless resources and insane power that indoctrinates innocent young women via tumblr and makes them sign the Penis Haters Act and Male Extermination Doctrine in menstural blood!	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 11:00 PM
1	Military to open combat jobs to women Uh, I'm pretty sure the Canadaian, Austrailian, and UK troops saw some "intense fighting" in Afghanistan. Ditto for the UK in Iraq. Or I guess the women serving in combat roles in those forces don't count? Also, why is Lt. Col. Grossman the only source for this accusation of war crimes committed by Israeli soldiers in retribution for the death of female combat soldiers? That's a very serious accusation that requires verification by several impartial sources to be presented as fact.	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 02:04 PM
-22	Hooray! Equality at last! Legal scholars say women will have to register for the draft now that they are deemed fit to serve in combat. Uh, why are you being sarcastic about that statement? It is true, isn't it?	/r/MensRights	24/01/13 01:37 PM
-3	Feminism and post-modern discourse: Why feminists "will typically try, not to answer opponents with better arguments, but to silence them completely as ‘hateful’, ‘intolerant’, ‘bigoted’, ‘misogynis I'm so glad you got an anti-Semetic joke into the same thread that claims MRAs are the inclusive, reasonable side of the argument. Congratulations. Stormfront would be proud.	/r/MensRights	22/01/13 05:44 AM
-49	Difference in Resources for Homeless Men and Women in a City in the Midwest You do not understand what "male privilege" means, or how it's employed.	/r/MensRights	20/01/13 08:55 PM
2	Misandrist site takes "Creep" shots of men, without any of the media backlash But where are the shots of bare pecs, flexing abs, close-ups on penis bulges? Right - not on this "creepshot" site.	/r/MensRights	19/01/13 03:13 AM
2	Abused woman hires contract killer instead of going to the authorities. Killer turns out to be undercover cop. She was acquitted Here's a link from the CBC about five other cases (all involving women killing their male partner/spouse).	/r/MensRights	18/01/13 05:13 PM
-7	7 Tactics Used by Academic Feminists To Suppress Information Hello, again, SRS. Yep, that's right. I represent all 29,779 members of SRS Prime, and speak on their behalf. You'll note my high status as an SRS mod, with a distinguished history of thousands of posts and comments left on SRS that... Oh, wait, no. No, I'm not SRS. I'm /u/flightsfancy, with my own beliefs and opinions and car keys and everything. Funfacts: I also subscribe to /r/MensRights, /r/Egalitarianism, /r/space and /r/MakeupAddiction. But hey, if you want to treat me as a subreddit commu…	/r/MensRights	29/12/12 01:56 AM
0	Why Feminism will always be the enemy ...except the feminists.	/r/MensRights	28/12/12 07:00 AM
0	7 Tactics Used by Academic Feminists To Suppress Information Right, women in Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the Congo, Iran...nobody is repressing their rights. It's just a coincidence that they are denied basic legal protection, mobility rights, any right to medical care, family planning... They just choose not to exercise those rights. That's all.	/r/MensRights	26/12/12 10:50 PM
3	7 Tactics Used by Academic Feminists To Suppress Information Yeah, I agree. Actual examples of these tactics being used by academic feminist researchers would be awesome.	/r/MensRights	26/12/12 10:44 PM
-9	7 Tactics Used by Academic Feminists To Suppress Information What information did the "tactics" rundown provide, exactly? Why didn't the author cite any primary research projects that have used these tactics? Or any secondary sources at all? In Tactic Five and Tactic Six, for example, the charges Strauss lays are very serious, and likely should have resulted in some legal action at the very least. And yet, he doesn't present any concrete proof that anything actually happened. As /u/rj20876 put it, this is a list of common suppression tactics (some of whic…	/r/MensRights	26/12/12 10:42 PM
-7	Something i think we all should read because i feel this means that our two groups are able able to reach a common ground.(MRAs and Feminists) Xpost to /r/Feminism Right. Because only truly benevolent movements like the MRM harrass and threaten to kill someone (to the point where they have to file an FBI report) just for disagreeing. Note: I am not saying that present and past feminists have not used violent or intimidating tactics. But as an MRA, perhaps you should give some thought to the "benevolence" of your movement, too.	/r/MensRights	26/12/12 07:23 AM
7	Something i think we all should read because i feel this means that our two groups are able able to reach a common ground.(MRAs and Feminists) Xpost to /r/Feminism Uh, you really think "feminism" came up with the man=bad/woman=good dichotomy? Ever hear of the Victorian concept of the Angel in the House? Or perhaps the notion of the Maddonna? Pretty sure women (at least demure, virginal mother-figures) have been seen as "good" and men as "bad," corrupted by worldly desires and sinful urges, for a lot longer than "feminism" has been an ideological force in Western society. I mean...wow. You seem to like clinging to false absolutes, but how could you misread …	/r/MensRights	26/12/12 07:18 AM
-3	70 percent of Germans oppose new law legalizing religiously motivated circumcision (x-post from /r/worldnews) A circumcised woman would say the same thing. WTF? Uh, no. If you believe that a woman or girl who has endured the agony, trauma and contined pain of FGM would say, "I'm absolutely fine with it," you're deluded. And stop conflating FGM with routine male circumcision. The two practices are not the same.	/r/MensRights	23/12/12 06:19 PM
23	UK newspaper columnist on sex and relationships directs her readers to male-bashing feminist nonprofits that deny men can be victims of domestic violence. Uh, if you actually bother to read the offending sex/relationships advice column that's got the blogger all fired up, it's fairly gender-neutral and offers a host of links, resources, and suggestions for anyone struggling with holiday-related stress, including depression, financial difficulty, inter-family conflicts, and feelings of inadequacy and isolation. The vast domestic violence section in the article that demonizes men and perpetuates the victimhood of women? Ain't there. In the gender-ne…	/r/MensRights	16/12/12 03:13 PM
1	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Uh, if it didn't matter, why edit out the hotlinks? Obvious answer: to make Harding's article appear more like a rant and less like a substantiated opinion piece with citations and examples of why she's saying "F*CK YOU" to MRAs. C'mon, you're smarter than that.	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 05:35 AM
-5	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Uh, I don't know about most people here on /r/mensrights, but most of the comments are pretty sexist, anti-feminist, and anti-women. It's funny you mention r/beatingwomen. Did you know that one of the MensRights mods used to be a frequent contributor to that sub? But I guess that there's no reason to suspect a MensRights mod would also be a misogynist just because he contributed to r/beatingwomen.	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 05:27 AM
1	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Well argued! A list of links, followed by "bullshit!" I guess MRAs didn't really say or do any of those things mentioned in the articles? Not sure what you're trying to illustrate with your "bullshit." **Edited to add: If any of the articles are, in fact, "bullshit," why did the OP decide to remove the hotlinked citations from the screencap? After all, if there's no truth to Harding's assessment of the MRM, why hide the hotlinks?	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 05:19 AM
-1	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Uh, feminism is not against men trying to discuss the prevalent issues that affect men. If that is the new mission statement, I guess I missed the meeting.	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 05:15 AM
2	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Okay, fair enough. I understand how easy it can be to overlook something when you're not consciously searching for it, but every time I come to this sub looking for real, concrete discussion on men's issues, I only see a lot of angry people ascribing every problem in the world to feminism. (And that's my own confirmation bias).	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 04:34 AM
2	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Sorry, I was responding on my tablet. I'm on my computer now - here's a link to the full article with the citation hotlinks intact. And nope, that WTF wasn't directed at you :-). I'm just a little surprised by the OP's need to deliberately edit the screencap of the original article.	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 04:31 AM
0	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Do you find it ironic, though, that you can say, "Hey, those are the voices of just a small microcosm of our movement!" but feel perfectly comfortable of attributing a particular action or motivation to generations of feminist scholars, activists and philosophers? You can't have it both ways - either all feminists or all MRAs can be addressed as a monolithic group, just as responsible for a minority opinion or epithet within that group as the other, or people acknowledge that, yes, BOTH movement…	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 04:28 AM
2	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Except the image was edited to take out the citation links Harding provided that illustrate when, where and how MRAs on Reddit and elsewhere have said and done what she's talking about. It's very sad that the OP felt so threatened he had to edit the image rather than just post it intact and let the folks here decide for themselves.	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 04:17 AM
-6	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. I love that you've been down voted for simply pointing that out. Folks here want to express their hatered and contempt for women/feminists, and then wonder why the MRAs on Reddit have an image problem.	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 04:11 AM
2	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. The original article on Jezebel had hotlinks within the article text that linked directly to posts and comments from /r/mensrights, directly illustrating examples in this sub where MRAs have, yes, offered support and advice to a abusers, rapists, ect. Those hotlinks (highlighted in blue) were deliberately removed from the screenshot posted by the OP. The relevant posts and comment replies Harding cited have also been erased from /r/mensrights, although there are screenshots which document the ma…	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 04:02 AM
1	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Uh, Control-F for "cunt" or "bitch" in the comment replies to this very thread. There's enough hate directed toward women/feminists in this post alone to illustrate the point. The fact that you "never" see it makes me question your observational skills. Unless you're of the opinion that dismissing someone as a "spoiled cunt" or saying, "I wouldn't fuck you for all the money in the world, you disgusting cunt!" (both at + votes right now) is something that comes off as not anti-women.	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 03:53 AM
-1	Jezebel: Fuck You Men's Rights Activists. Too bad about all the MRAs in this very thread calling the author a bitch, cunt, etc. Guess that "more mature group" plan was just a pipe dream, eh?	/r/MensRights	14/12/12 03:41 AM
-6	So I saw this on tumblr. TL:DR all places are safe spaces for white men. Uh, you weren't targeted because of your gender, but because of your (perceived) social class. I'm pretty sure other (non-white, not-male) college students who parked in that lot were also targeted, because the area is perceived to be full of cars belonging to affluent college students. And yeah, that's a misconception, and I'm sorry your car was stolen, but it's pretty ridiculous to conclude that you were targeted because you're male. This thief perceived you to be rich and white, I doubt he wa…	/r/MensRights	20/11/12 10:09 PM
-5	So I saw this on tumblr. TL:DR all places are safe spaces for white men. For the record, you added the "hateable."	/r/MensRights	20/11/12 10:06 PM
2	Why I despise my school No, I was asking you to clarify what you meant by suggesting that your Social Studies teacher used propaganda to show that "Nazis are bad and Maoris are good." It's a pretty simple question. If your answer is controversial, then yes, I'd like to explore your reasoning.	/r/MensRights	20/11/12 10:02 PM
-11	So I saw this on tumblr. TL:DR all places are safe spaces for white men. Were you mugged and stabbed because you're a white, heterosexual American man? Were you singled out for the mugging/stabbing because of your race, gender or physical condition? Probably not. You were likely attacked because the mugger saw an opportunity to rob you, not because of an internalized hatred towards white heterosexual men.	/r/MensRights	20/11/12 05:40 PM
1	Why I despise my school What do you mean when you say your social studies class was, "propaganda about how Nazis are bad and Maoris are good"?	/r/MensRights	20/11/12 05:01 PM
2	Possibly the worst possible concocted evidence for male privilege. Yep, I got everything handed to me because I was white. I don't think you understand what white privilege is. It's not that people who share your ancestry and look like you had amazing lives in the past. Life was fucking hard, and your ancestors suffered, struggled and were probably rock-bottom destitute at several points. They were oppressed, and they were denied the same rights and freedoms given to other people who didn't share their ethnicity or their accent. However, as white Europeans, the…	/r/MensRights	16/11/12 03:49 AM
2	There needs to be an honest study of all the ways women receive wealth, compared to men. Don't bother - this guy is only interested in demonizing women and being as patronizing as possible in his responses to you. He seems to think that women (and women alone) are responsible for having children "out of wedlock" and the high divorce rate, and clearly has no understanding of what the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act actually entailed. Just ignore him. He's not worth your time.	/r/MensRights	16/11/12 03:01 AM
1	Wage gap? What about the spending gap? Would you rather earn the money or spend it? (X-post SRSSucks) Uh, half of what you said was not coherent. Try reading your comments out loud first, and if they don't make sense, edit before you respond.	/r/MensRights	16/11/12 02:43 AM
1	Wage gap? What about the spending gap? Would you rather earn the money or spend it? (X-post SRSSucks) It also doesn't indicate if the stats examine both two-parent and single-parent households (the majority of which are headed by women). That would skew the data, too, as the only shopper in a single-parent household is likely to be female.	/r/MensRights	16/11/12 02:39 AM
3	School bans Movember because girls can't grow facial hair Uh, what "feminazis" have "exploded with rage" in response to this boy's endeavor? Read the article.	/r/MensRights	15/11/12 08:39 PM
2	Any "Real men don't" statement is an example of the "No true scotsman" informal logical falicy. No, actually, gender refers to the qualities and expectations we assign to an individual based on their sex (genitalia and secondary sex characteristics). So, someone has a penis: their sex is male (although that category itself is very narrow and doesn't include intersex or transgendered folks), and so the individual is expected to conform to standards of "maleness" (gender) that have nothing to do with their genitalia, and everything to do with the way our society perceives and defines masculi…	/r/MensRights	14/11/12 03:38 PM
-3	a woman tried to make politics a gender issue with me today (i.e. pull a Gillard) Any proof or links to back any of your "observations" about the CBC News website? Are feminists also controlling CBC Radio? The national TV news coverage? And what about Radio-Canada and the other French-language CBC news services? Do those nasty Franophone feminazis also control that coverage? Seriously, consider the breadth and scope of what you're suggesting. Practice some critical thinking skills, and try to separate "feminist" rhetoric in a few CBC online op-eds from "women writing stuff I …	/r/MensRights	29/10/12 05:14 AM
2	a woman tried to make politics a gender issue with me today (i.e. pull a Gillard) Your suggestion that churches were a threat to state power and the subsequent cultural destruction and enslavement of First Nations peoples (I'm one myself, thanks) demonstrates that you are either completely ignorant or dangerously delusional about the role of the Church in the decimation of First Nations culture, customs and way of life. And by suggesting that the fate of European, English-speaking Canadians will in any way resemble the centuries of bloodshed and dispossession of the aborigina…	/r/MensRights	29/10/12 05:06 AM
-1	Stop imprisoning women? Really? Community prisons, curfewed tagging and alternative sentences are what is really needed and the relatively small female prison population is an ideal test group for these. The article's author puts forward the idea that it's useful to consider the small percentage of UK female prisoners (4.8% of the entire population) as a pilot test for more rehabilitative programs that do not rely on incarceration to address the reason why most people (men and women) are in prison in the UK: poverty. Or sexual…	/r/MensRights	23/10/12 08:43 PM
-5	Update on ViolentAcrez/Gawker/Adrian Chen/CreepShots I...think you may need to find a different sub, then. I've subscribed to this comm for nearly six months, and I only ever see drama and anti-feminist, anti-woman stuff being posted. There is no activism in the MR movement, unless you count /u/JohnTheOther's attempt to put up MRA-friendly posters in the heart of a Vancouver enclave of progressive liberals. That just seemed like a cheap move, a way to get video of people tearing down posters that they would obviously never agree with in the first …	/r/MensRights	11/10/12 11:27 PM
2	Update on ViolentAcrez/Gawker/Adrian Chen/CreepShots They took it down now. But there must be a screenshot, right?	/r/MensRights	11/10/12 11:17 PM
3	Update on ViolentAcrez/Gawker/Adrian Chen/CreepShots It still stands that a threat was made against r/MensRights to do the same to us as was done to ViolentAcrez (and CreepShots by insinuation). I still don't understand what threat was made against r/MensRights. What are you basing that on?	/r/MensRights	11/10/12 11:04 PM
2	I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice? A couple of points, mainly in response to the "It's a woman! GET HER!" comments. Others here have offered some good advice, and have responded to this complex issue with some degree of sensitivity, and they are the MRAs who give me some hope that this movement will continue in a productive way that doesn't need to degrade women to be successful. 1) If you want some other options on where to get some qualified advice from experts, check out /r/rapecounseling/, RAINN, or AfterSilence. They have re…	/r/MensRights	01/10/12 08:01 PM
-4	I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice? Apparently the two beers your rapist had = blackout drunk and possibly unconscious. Y'know, MRA math.	/r/MensRights	01/10/12 07:40 PM
3	I am a feMRA who was date raped. How should I go about getting justice? I don't think that is every case, but I'd say the vast majority. Based on what evidence? Just your own guess? I hear this all the time in this comm, yet no one produces evidence beyond a few anecdotes and the occasional news story (rare because it is unusual for someone to lie about being raped).	/r/MensRights	01/10/12 07:35 PM
-11	Land Lord attacks her male tenant. Pretends he was assaulting her. Youtube already deleted the first post. This needs to be spread. Hahaha I highly doubt NOW or any "feminist organization" is aware that this video even exists, let alone are busy marshalling their resources to get it pulled down. The video description (which initially included the landlord's full name, address and phone number) violated YouTube's TOS. It was removed. Do you have any evidence at all to link any women's rights organization with YouTube's decision to pull the video? I mean, other than paranoia and a persecution complex?	/r/MensRights	04/09/12 08:32 PM
0	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. Ha, you sure told me! Thanks for proving that you're just another asshole.	/r/MensRights	03/09/12 12:12 AM
0	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. You're a woman, aren't you? Meaning what, exactly?	/r/MensRights	03/09/12 12:11 AM
1	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. I'm simply pointing out that perhaps women who were born in, say, Azerbaijan, may not share the "western" sense of entitlement toptrool thinks he's identified.	/r/MensRights	03/09/12 12:10 AM
-5	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. Perhaps, but the Balkans have not enjoyed the kind of economic advancement, constitutional protection, industrialization or extended periods of domestic peacetime that Western nations have, which is perhaps why the UN includes them in the Eastern European roundup. Anyway, nice of you to start a debate with me about geography and ignore the factual, logical and rational mistakes in /u/toptrool's entire comment. I mean, if you don't have a problem with the extreme sexism on display in his comment,…	/r/MensRights	31/08/12 04:08 AM
-2	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. Perhaps in a strictly literal sense, but the UN (and, uh, history) identifies Eastern Europe as a completely separate region from Western Europe and North America. It includes the countries Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Bulgaria, Georgia, Russian Federation, Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Ukraine. Which...are not exactly western countries, dig? These nations are decidedly not the same cultural/economic/historical zip code as the "western"-raised women /u/toptrool dislikes so much were born in. Appa…	/r/MensRights	31/08/12 03:49 AM
-7	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. ^ Unable to handle any kind of reasonable question. What was trollish about my question? And why was it any more "trollish" than toptrool's comment? Riddle me that.	/r/MensRights	31/08/12 03:31 AM
-10	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. What makes you think the women in this photo were Western? From the architecture in the background and the foregrounded woman's costume, I'd say it looks more like this was taken in Eastern Europe. But don't let me stop you from making broad generalizations.	/r/MensRights	31/08/12 03:12 AM
-12	"Women ARE the World" - a picture which explains why feminism can never deliver equality. What's the context of this photo? Anyone know? Was it a parade? A protest? A counter-protest? Might want to find out before MRAs like SPARTAN_TOASTER start comparing these two young women with neo-nazis... Oh wait. Shit. Carry on, then.	/r/MensRights	31/08/12 03:09 AM
1	Just a Little Comparison That Needed to be Done Yeah, and it only applies to the situation in a handful of Western nations. It doesn't capture the situation for women in 3rd world countries, or even less progressive westernized countries like China, India, Pakistan, or former Soviet states.	/r/MensRights	27/08/12 02:12 PM
1	As far as I can tell, this is how it works So, what would you suggest? Because some misguided or destructive people have used the same label I do to describe my personal political ideology, do I need to abandon my values and beliefs? Do I have to stop my efforts to address and improve men's, women's, GLBT and children's rights? If your knee-jerk suggestion is, "Yes," then I don't really think you're making much of an effort to see things from my perspective. I don't agree with your assessment of NOW or VAWA (the specifics of which I'm ha…	/r/MensRights	25/08/12 01:09 AM
-1	As far as I can tell, this is how it works I'm just trying to imagine the scenario, here. You've been beaten and mugged, you're lying in a hospital bed recovering from, say, a stab wound or a concussion. You're bruised, in pain, and exhausted. You're worried about that mugger who got away with your credit cards, your driver's license, and other identifying information, and damn it, he also got your cell phone! You can't even call your mom to tell her what happened! And then your friend Jill walks in. She sees you lying there, pale and mo…	/r/MensRights	24/08/12 11:20 PM
2	As far as I can tell, this is how it works Their arguments require them to walk home in high risk areas with ipod blaring, hunched up and not paying any attention. Whose arguments? You say "those people" and "their arguments" but you don't identify who you mean. Are you referring to people who point out victim-blaming tactics when they see them? Because that includes many, many people (and not just feminists) who have never even heard about the men's rights movement, but understand that when you say something like, "Don't wear short skir…	/r/MensRights	24/08/12 11:10 PM
4	As far as I can tell, this is how it works We definitely shouldn't tell women that were assaulted that, but we can tell women that haven't been assaulted to be more careful, can't we? The main thing (not the only thing, but the main thing) I don't understand about this chain of reasoning is that most rapes are not committed by strangers in bars or back alleys. They are committed by friends, family members, coworkers, spouses, and people in positions of power and authority over the victim (and I am referring to both men and women, here). …	/r/MensRights	24/08/12 07:29 PM
0	As far as I can tell, this is how it works If I did that and got mugged or beaten, no one would be saying it wasn't my fault. They would be telling me I'm an idiot for putting myself in danger like that and that I knew better, etc. I'd think you have some pretty shitty friends, then.	/r/MensRights	24/08/12 06:56 PM
1	Am I wrong in finding this a little offensive? Uh, because "Queer issues" does not mean jus "gay dudes". LGBT also refers to lesbians, bisexuals and transgendered people. And I can't possibly imagine why feminist social, legal and political activism would help protect or advance their rights.	/r/MensRights	24/08/12 03:55 PM
0	I used to dislike r/MensRights. Today I changed my mind. Cool, I can play this game too. I was not offering examples of men using existing laws to abuse women. . That wasn't the topic I was responding to. The original comment from /u/ostrikan was, "May not be a perfect example, but GOP lawmakers have been on an anti-women stint for a while." You said that, "No, they haven't." I gave quite a few examples that illustrate how the Republican party has been systematically clawing back the hard-fought social and legislative progress American women have made…	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 11:14 PM
1	I used to dislike r/MensRights. Today I changed my mind. By repeating the same talking points without addressing any of my questions or arguments, you've clearly demonstrated that you have nothing to offer this discussion. I don't see the point in continuing to talk with someone who has nothing substantive or factual to offer. There are plenty of laws that are used to abuse women, but that wan't the original point that I was addressing. I'm not going to engage with you any further.	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 10:55 PM
1	I used to dislike r/MensRights. Today I changed my mind. Health care and reproductive rights in american discriminate massively in favour of women. Okay, explain to me how the slow erosion of women's access to family planning, reproductive healthcare and the waning right to personal privacy and bodily autonomy translates into "discrimination" in favor of women. American women now have fewer options when making choices about their own bodies than they did in the 1970s. And it's not a matter of "small reductions" - the new and proposed legislation in ma…	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 05:35 PM
-1	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) "[O]utlandish" merely means that they are beyond the realm of what society considers acceptable. No, "outlandish" as in bizarre or archaic. As in, "No reasonable, rational person could possibly draw the same conclusion." That's not argumentum ad populum - that's your idea being unable to pass the laugh test. At some point you might want to stop with the self-aggrandizement. You're not a noble lone wolf going against the pack; you're just substituting half-baked notions of Foucaultian structurali…	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 02:15 PM
2	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) I know your feminist ideology doesn't tolerate freedom of speech Go on, tell me more about my beliefs. Define feminism for me. You clearly have an airtight grasp on the central concepts. Tell me, exactly which feminist theorists disavow free speech? Which feminist activists have historically protested against it? Which feminist group (there are many) hold disavowal of free speech as a tent pole issue? Can you even name one? but everywhere else in the civilized world it's deemed a human right. Yo…	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 02:04 PM
2	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) I didn't say you were crazy, I said your ideas were crazy. And yes, if your ideas are completely outlandish (I.e. these women were "irresponsible" because they revealed their last names to a guy they were sleeping with), that does indeed make you incorrect.	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 10:44 AM
2	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Right. No one has ever been fired because their private sexual activities have been made public.	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 10:40 AM
2	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Good call. That's exactly what I was suggesting. Y'know, when rational adults have a disagreement about something, they typically avoid making outlandish exaggerations in favor of logical points that are connected to the argument. But because you have nothing of substance to contribute, you draw the most ridiculous conclusion you can. Preventing an individual from publicly identifying and shaming other individuals on the internet =/= repression of free speech. Particularly in Austrailia, which d…	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 10:38 AM
2	I used to dislike r/MensRights. Today I changed my mind. There's also the 192 GOP-proposed legislative amendments that limit or restrict women's access to family planning, basic healthcare, breast cancer screenings, pregnancy tests, and life-saving abortions. Plus the party-line vote against the Paycheck Fairness act, the refusal to renew the VAW act, and recent comments made by Republican politicians and commentators about women who use birth control being "sluts", being similar to farm animals, being incapable of conceiving a child during "legitimat…	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 12:14 AM
-1	I used to dislike r/MensRights. Today I changed my mind. You do know that MRAs mod r/TwoXChromosomes and r/feminism, right?	/r/MensRights	22/08/12 12:04 AM
-5	I used to dislike r/MensRights. Today I changed my mind. Lloks like the MRAs are doing a fine job of harassing all on their own	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 11:43 PM
2	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Having "legal recourse" is no more than having access to a mafia with a reality-distortion field so that the populace doesn't repudiate them. Thanks, you just told me everything I needed to know about your mindset. No need for further debate with someone who refers to the legal system as a "mafia with a reality-distortion field" and taxation as robbery at gunpoint. Sell your crazy somewhere else. It just so happens that in this case the irresponsible people are women. Right. The women are the on…	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 06:14 PM
7	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) You don't have a right to have information about experiences you share with others kept secret. Really. According to whom? Is this your expert legal opinion? Tell me, if you were having sex with someone and they filmed it, and then posted the video online, you wouldn't have any legal recourse? What if you paid for a full-page ad in a major newspaper like the New York Times saying, "I had sex with X, and this is their full name and contact information. PS They were lousy in bed."? Yeah. There are…	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 05:50 PM
4	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Like I said in a comment below, this situation goes way beyond "offending" the women involved - it jeopardizes their personal and professional relationships, their ability to earn an income, and even their safety because it does put them at risk for stalking, doxxing, and exploitation by a 3rd party. You're employing a "slippery slope" argument here, and not very effectively. Is there any indication that the law will "erode" to the point where we're jailing people for their opinion? No. This guy…	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 05:25 PM
5	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Really? You don't see how posting details, including the full names of the women involved, about private sexual encounters on a public Facebook page could possibly be an invasion of privacy? Hmm, how does public tagging on Facebook work again?	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 04:54 PM
7	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) What? What does that have to do with this situation? A celebrity magazine that mocks famous people for wardrobe malfunctions or a bad haircut is trashy, yeah, but it's not a public Facebook page that publishes information and details (including, I'm assuming, a tagged link to the women's individual Facebook pages) about a private citizen's sexual encounter. I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here: that because celebrity magazines mock celebrities, it's okay for this guy to post public rati…	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 04:44 PM
5	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Yeah, because this is absolutely a freedom of speech issue, not an issue about invasion of personal privacy.	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 04:39 PM
10	Man jailed for Facebook sex ratings comments - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) Yeah, the only reason a woman (or anyone) wouldn't want to see their private sexual encounter detailed and rated on a public Facebook page is because it would hurt her feelings. Never mind that her family, friends, coworkers and employers could see her "rating." That her job could be jeopardized. That her professional relationships with coworkers, clients or business partners could be negatively affected, impacting her ability to conduct her business, support herself or her family, or advance in…	/r/MensRights	21/08/12 04:34 PM
9	GirlWritesWhat says women instigate domestic violence against them So you either spank her like a child, or...rape her? That's your example of finding a "middle ground" during a dispute? Holy fuck.	/r/MensRights	19/08/12 07:38 AM
-11	It's shit like this Reddit... Right. Only the people who have studied hard sciences, maths or engineering can be reasonable about historical, social or gender issues. Makes sense. /eyeroll	/r/MensRights	13/08/12 11:48 PM
-13	It's shit like this Reddit... Yeah, how dare those damn women and minorities attempt to shape and contribute to the study of history! History should only be written by men, for men!	/r/MensRights	13/08/12 11:28 PM
1	There should be more black MRAs Wait, white menare responsible? But I thought feminists were the real villains.	/r/MensRights	10/08/12 11:01 PM
-2	Domestic Violence researcher Suzanne Steinmetz' daughters wedding disrupted by feminist bomb threat. And, as in this situation, there exists no independent source that verifies that the events happened, aside from quotes from Pizzey herself.	/r/MensRights	09/08/12 10:06 PM
1	The gender wage gap is a myth. Bad comparisons make for bad data. I'm not jumping to the explanation. That was the conclusion the author drew, the explanation as to why women are willing to miss work, but father's aren't. "Women seem to mind missing these events more than men." That's the author's evaluation of the emotions dictating the different choices made by men and women: women care more, men care less. Women get upset when they miss important moments in their kids' lives; men don't mind working through those events. The question worth asking is, why do …	/r/MensRights	09/08/12 04:44 PM
2	The gender wage gap is a myth. Bad comparisons make for bad data. For men and women, to make it to the corporate top requires countless hours of work and travel and too little time for family. That means missed birthdays, football and field hockey games, and school productions. Women seem to mind missing these events more than men. WTF? Men suddenly don't care about spending time with their kids? They'd rather be at the office than watching their child win the football game? This woman is trying to reinforce the perception that men are uncaring, absentee fathe…	/r/MensRights	09/08/12 03:05 PM
0	"More than 98% of the land and resources of the planet that I inhabit—called EARTH—by the U.N.’s 2012 estimate is owned and controlled by men! Women own less then 2%." WTF? The quote and other stats were taken from the World Development Fund's 2011 study of global wealth dispersment, as reported by the Wall Street Journal. This wasn't a hard fact to find.	/r/MensRights	04/08/12 02:59 AM
4	India’s first domestic violence shelter for men opens its doors ...that's what I thought. So much for the "activism" part of the Men's Rights movement.	/r/MensRights	31/07/12 07:33 PM
0	Woman who tries to set up domestic violence shelter for men receives death threats from feminists What's the source on this? I've spent the last few hours researching and reading different articles, but they all mention just Prizzey's personal account of receiving threats "in the 1970s". Some mention the death of her dog, some don't, and in Prizzey's personal accounts the dog's murder is sometimes mentioned, sometimes not. She never gives any specifics about the death threats (when were they received? did a group ever take responsibility, or were they sent by individual(s)?). Ditto for the d…	/r/MensRights	31/07/12 05:09 PM
-1	"I need feminism because on the women’s website I write for, too many men comment to tell me I’m wrong." Uh, no. Words always matter. They construct meaning. That's the basis of language.	/r/MensRights	31/07/12 04:05 PM
1	India’s first domestic violence shelter for men opens its doors This is great news, and I'm really glad Indian men have at least one safe place to go. That said, does anyone here plan to help support or promote this shelter? Anyone making a donation? They can only house 4 men at a time. I bet if the MR community (all 41,685 subscribers) donated a couple of dollars, they'd have enough funding to operate for several years AND expand to be able to offer more men shelter.	/r/MensRights	31/07/12 02:30 PM
3	"I need feminism because on the women’s website I write for, too many men comment to tell me I’m wrong." Feminism is HIV, cancer, and the Plague merged together. The only real cure is to sterilize it, nuke it, and the burn the bodies. /s Glad you're here to provide us with rational logic instead of the "emotional" discourse of feminism.	/r/MensRights	30/07/12 08:59 PM
2	"I need feminism because on the women’s website I write for, too many men comment to tell me I’m wrong." Religion has been trying to stop what for happening? Rape? Or feminism? And which religion are you thinking of?	/r/MensRights	30/07/12 08:29 PM
-4	"I need feminism because on the women’s website I write for, too many men comment to tell me I’m wrong." with someone that thinks they are literally hitler. ?? If anyone literally thinks someone is Hitler, I think they might have a case of the crazies. He's been dead for decades. Do you mean "figuratively" Hitler?	/r/MensRights	30/07/12 08:28 PM
0	This is how /r/feminism responds to people who may disagree with them. This was the top comment. Wow. Oh, I take no offense. I'm just unclear what the "joke" was, unless you were satirizing the ridiculous argument that feminism in any way resembles religious fundamentalism. neither understands satire or can let an imagined offence slide. Pot, meet kettle.	/r/MensRights	25/07/12 03:26 AM
-1	This is how /r/feminism responds to people who may disagree with them. This was the top comment. Wow. Alright, so you're saying that feminists who "get all up in your shit when they don't like something you say" equates to jihad. Gotcha. I know you were trying to participate in an adult discussion, but hey, maybe next time. Keep reaching for that rainbow.	/r/MensRights	25/07/12 03:21 AM
0	This is how /r/feminism responds to people who may disagree with them. This was the top comment. Wow. Well, you posted the same comment twice in response to comments about feminism being like religious fundamentalism, so I assumed you were being quite literal. Otherwise your point makes no sense. Feminism = religious fundamentalism because they figuratively "condemn you and try to kill you"? How does one figuratively "kill"? What examples can you offer of feminists figuratively "murdering" someone who challenges their "religion"?	/r/MensRights	25/07/12 03:11 AM
2	This is how /r/feminism responds to people who may disagree with them. This was the top comment. Wow. TIL that men have it just as bad, or worse, than women in Afgahanistan.	/r/MensRights	25/07/12 01:37 AM
-2	This is how /r/feminism responds to people who may disagree with them. This was the top comment. Wow. Right! Stupid murdering feminists on their rampage of bloodlust and...wait, what? I guess I must've missed all those violent crime reports that said "radical feminists" were murdering dessenters. When has it happened? What brave soul has surrendered his life in an effort to prove feminists wrong? I think you're confusing, "women who argue with you" with "women who try to kill you." Unless a female questioning your argument is tantamount to attempted murder, would you mind rephrasing your point s…	/r/MensRights	25/07/12 01:30 AM
2	Teen Girl hit man - hahahah , man hit teen girl - monster A couple things to point out here: A) There is no context for the video. We don't know what precipitated the attack, or how (if?) the girl was provoked. We've got 15 seconds of blurry cell-phone video. That's it. Might want to save your congratulations until you know why the confrontation took place. B) Dehumanizing the girl (calling her a "feral cunt" or saying "those aren't women" or "that's not a lady"), calling her a "stupid bitch" and a "silly bitch", and saying she "got what she deserved" …	/r/MensRights	21/07/12 03:20 PM
-1	Teen Girl hit man - hahahah , man hit teen girl - monster Context? We don't need no stinking context. 15 seconds of blurry video that captures the scenario midway through is MORE than enough evidence to decide that the man is a champion of men's rights, and that the girl is a "feral cunt" who got taught a good lesson.	/r/MensRights	21/07/12 02:58 PM
0	Teen Girl hit man - hahahah , man hit teen girl - monster Upvoted for being the very first person to ask about the context here. In the rush to congratulate this guy, no one is asking what happened before the filming began, what precipitated the incident, if the man and the girl have any prior history together, or what happened after the camera was shut off. These seem like good questions to ask before declaring that the guy is a hero and the girl is a "feral cunt." (Seriously?)	/r/MensRights	21/07/12 02:54 PM
1	How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now? I never said it was absolute? Yep, you did. You said: "forcing anyone to do anything is always bad". That's an example of a (false) absolute statement.. You can't use someone's criticism of women as proof that that person is incorrect If someone's "criticism" of an entire gender is simply bigotry, sexism or misogyny in plainclothes wrapping, then yeah, I can demonstrate (using logic and facts) that the person's statement is incorrect. That's how an argument works. you are just substituting threa…	/r/MensRights	19/07/12 07:09 PM
0	How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now? And what is the problem with sex robots ? If we had functional for-females-only sex robots, feminists would be writing about how wonderfully liberating it all is. Let's be clear: the comments referring to sex robots above aren't suggesting that men use artificial means of sexual gratification; they're arguing that women can be replaced by sex robots because that is the only thing that women offer men: sexual release. They fulfill no other emotional, financial, physical or structural need in a re…	/r/MensRights	19/07/12 03:38 PM
-1	How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now? Who said all women are liars and whores ? girlwriteswhat did. She said, "Being friends with a woman for a man usually requires a greater investment, and less return than same sex friendships. It can be difficult for a man to find a non-transactional friendship with a woman." Then I took her statement and made what is called an inference, or "[drawing] conclusions...about the unsaid based on what is actually said." In the above quote, girlwriteswhat reduces male/female relationships to an economi…	/r/MensRights	19/07/12 03:19 PM
-2	How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now? forcing anyone to do anything is always bad Right. I can't think of a single situation in all of human history where forcing people to comply with something worked out well. Helmet laws, seatbelt requirements, health and safety regulations in the food industry, making restaurant owners serve black customers as well as white customers...all fundamentally bad, because they were forcing individuals to do something they didn't want to do. Honestly, I've learned that people who talk in absolutes aren…	/r/MensRights	19/07/12 02:38 PM
-6	How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now? I admire you for trying to inject a little reason in this discussion, but wow. They're suggesting women can be easily replaced with sex robots up thread, and we also have people arguing that women are unworthy of their time, attention or friendship because it always turns into lawsuit or a "transactional" relationship. (Because all women are liars and whores, get it?) But no one here is expressing bigotry or misogyny. Nope. Just truxfax about the feeeeemales.	/r/MensRights	19/07/12 02:06 AM
-3	How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now? Nope, that place is r/mensrights.	/r/MensRights	19/07/12 01:56 AM
-2	How does /r/mensrights feel about the branding iron that's being applied to Simon Pegg right now? He's not talking about "a person," he's talking about an entire gender. If he said, "I'm not interested in being friends with black people" that would be bigoted, right?	/r/MensRights	19/07/12 01:50 AM
3	TIL that a feminist suffragette was president of the Women's Christian Temperence Movement, which brought us Prohibition. Right. So modern family planning is just an extension of the 19th century eugenics movement. Thanks for clearing that up for us.	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 10:29 PM
7	TIL that a feminist suffragette was president of the Women's Christian Temperence Movement, which brought us Prohibition. Thank you for making this point! I'm amazed at the lack of historical insight going on in this thread. But I guess it would be inconvenient to admit that the history of a rhizomatic and contemporaneous movement like feminism would be complex, and given to change over time. Nope, much easier to see these complex issues in only black-and-white terms.	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 10:24 PM
6	Is there a way we can get this taken down? (See right side...) Right, because no one in the world would ever post anything that demeans, degrades or sensationalizes violence against minorities simply because they enjoy seeing it. Has to be trolls. Look, there are trolls, and then there are the kind of people who spend hours searching for images or video of people being raped, beaten, dismembered or murdered so they can post it and gleefully await the positive comments that roll in. And there are the kind of people who post congratulatory or supportive comme…	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 05:10 PM
2	Thunderf00t attacks feminist scumbag PZMyers for his feminist nonsense in a way only Thunderf00t can! Lol. Really? Russia, Ukraine, Mexico, Japan, Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt, Iraq, China, Afghanistan, South Korea, Pakistan, Vietnam, Palestine, Central African Republic, Cameroon, Chile, Chad, Equator, El Salvador, Ethiopia, Ghana, Indonesia, Kenya, Kuwait, Lybia, Madagascar, Morrocco, Nepal, Nigeria, Panama, Peru, Phillipines, Quatar, Romania, Serbia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Thiland... Yep, all democratic, all hotbeds of "feminist" ideology...	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 04:33 PM
4	Is there a way we can get this taken down? (See right side...) Ok, so you may have a moral and legal argument to pursue taking it down, but that doesn't mean you have to pursue those powers. ??? I suppose I'm not obligated to do anything, but if I have a moral and legal reason to take action against something I think is really dangerous and harmful, then yeah. I'll fight for it to happen. I think Stratis is saying he's against imposing sanctions on speech unless proven absolutely necessary. I think that's how Reddit seems to assess their decisions as well. …	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 02:03 PM
7	Is there a way we can get this taken down? (See right side...) But "free speech" is not unlimited. There are restrictions of freedom of speech when it comes to things like libel, obscenity, and yes, promoting hate speech, which is what those subreddits do. I'd feel differently about it if the subreddits were discussion-based, but they're not - they are intended to encourage and/or congratulate people on acts of rape, assault or even murder based on the victim's gender, sexual orientation and disability. Seems like the "Clear and present danger" limitation o…	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 01:37 PM
54	Is there a way we can get this taken down? (See right side...) Okay, so just to summarize the facts that you've acknowledged... 1) /r/beatingwomen existing before /r/SRS 2) /u/AnnArchist did post there prior to becoming a mod here And yet somehow you argue that "SRS is responsible for this shit." So...2 + 2 = 17, in your mind. Gotcha. Seems to me that there is a direct connection between /r/beatingwomen and /r/mensrights, and that /r/SRS could not have played any role in its inception. But it's still an SRS troll community. That's quite a feat of logic.	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 01:26 PM
9	Is there a way we can get this taken down? (See right side...) You can go sign the petition to have the subreddit removed, along with other subs like r/beatingtrannies, r/SexyAbortions, r/beatingcripples, and r/rapingwomen. Might mean some good PR for /r/mensrights if the folks here would support the petition, or call for something similar. After all, these subreddits a) promote violence against men as well (trans men, disabled men, etc) and b) provide citation material for those who argue that all men like to make others (particularly women, transsexuals, …	/r/MensRights	06/07/12 01:17 PM
2	It's Only Sexist When Men Do It I'm a rape victim. His initial response "I hope you drown in rape semen" etc etc made me relive part of my rape and sent me on a downward spiral of depression and anxiety that took some time to come back from. So it worked. But fuck me, right? Not sure what your point was with your statement here.	/r/MensRights	04/07/12 08:31 PM
-3	Saw this on facebook today You are my new favorite Redditor. Thank you for your response to the idiocy of this entire discussion.	/r/MensRights	04/07/12 12:02 AM
-3	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women Last time I checked, calling someone on their bullshit isn't trolling. It's making a point, which you're welcome to disagree with. If you can't handle honest and direct criticism, maybe you should go check out a circlejerk community instead. And I'm pretty sure qwerty123 can fight his own battles.	/r/MensRights	24/05/12 04:27 PM
-2	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women No, you're being ignorant and offensive by comparing a ideology that has, whatever you may think of it, allowed women to work, feed their families, vote, and practice their reproductive freedom to Apartheid, a practice that has devastated generations of people and caused untold suffering. If you can't do better than employ the tired Godwin's Law fallacy, then you should move on or STFU.	/r/MensRights	24/05/12 12:21 PM
-5	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women Very mature, bringing profanity to the table. But, um, women like money too. They need it to support their families and buy stuff like food and medicine, just like men. They just aren't paid as well.	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:43 PM
-2	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women Okay, please dazzle us with your explanation as to why women employed in a field whose workforce is 95% female are passed over for promotions or advancement while men (less than 5% of a workforce) hold the majority of higher-level positions, like manager, supervisor or chief administrator. I guess women are just not as smart as men? Not as capable? Certainly it couldn't illustrate a deeply-held, socially-constructed belief that men are simply "better" in leadership positions. Nope. Just a bunch …	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:42 PM
-4	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women LOL biotruth 4 life! "Well, of course men are programmed to objectify women, because that’s how they maximize their genetic legacy, by fucking everything that moves. Of course men are dominant in society, they’re physically stronger, as has been the case since the hunter-gatherer days. Women are evolutionarily designed to be more nurturing and better at making sandwiches." ...and other stupid arguments against feminism	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:38 PM
-3	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women Or they won't stop until women are actually valued as employees instead of being dismissed because they're not "aggressive" or "natural leaders".	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:34 PM
-5	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women Um, yes, because (as the article indicated) women are not holding executive or managerial positions. Those are held by men, who tend to hire and promote other men even though they represent less than 5% of the given female-dominated employment area. So, yes. It's a good ol' boys club.	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:30 PM
-6	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women [feminists] are the modern day equivalent of Apartheid supporters. This is an incredibly ignorant and hyperbolic statement that really undermines MR's claim to be a "tolerant" and legitimate movement. Do you know anything about Apartheid? Do you understand how many thousands of people suffered and died or were brutalized by that system? We're debating gender-based vocational advancement, here. Not genocide, not state-sanctioned murder, not multi-generational suffering at the hands of a few elite…	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:28 PM
-5	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women I guess there's no point in stating the obvious: it's sexist of you to assume that all women "slack off at work" and don't deserve to be promoted at a rate that is proportional to their participation in a given career field.	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:20 PM
-3	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women Does it occur to you that women can't win, either? They aren't advancing in career areas that are a) male-dominated or b) female-dominated. So why is that? Is it because women as a gender are less talented, less educated or less intelligent than men? Or could it be that there are more complex social forces at work that dictate the different ways men and women are valued as workers, managers and executives? They are increasingly AA'ing their way into jobs and lawsuiting their way into a boring wo…	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:19 PM
1	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women What? No, the article would still be about men advancing faster then women and being hired as managers and executives at a faster rate. That's statistical fact - there are more men in charge in both male-dominated and female-dominated fields.	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:12 PM
0	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women Did you read the article? Neither privilege nor natural ability is cited for the reason men advance more quickly in female-dominated career areas: Goldberg attributes the glass escalator, in part, to women’s increased likelihood of experiencing “career interruptions,” like taking time off to care for children or aging parents. At the same time, stereotypes about men and the characteristics of strong leadership work to men’s advantage.”	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:08 PM
-1	According to feminists - more men entering female dominated professions is new sexism against women I'm not sure that you understand what the glass ceiling represents, particularly when talking about women advancing to the executive or managerial level in the workplace. (Here's a hint: it doesn't happen often)	/r/MensRights	23/05/12 09:04 PM
1	Sex Tourism vs Romance Vacations: “Real Women Don’t Buy Boys” It could also use some verifiable facts to show how widespread this problem is, and how many women engage in the practice. Saying it happens isn't enough: there needs to be some data to back it up.	/r/MensRights	11/05/12 08:10 AM
1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. That's a huge assumption without actual research into it. You seemed pretty comfortable with assumptions when you talked about men doing more physical labor as volunteer work, although you didn't support your point with any facts. Also, it doesn't take into account who has more time to donate. A stay-at-home mom will obviously have more time to donate than someone working full-time. The 7 studies I linked to did look at these issues. They compared full-time wage earners who donated time, and par…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 06:05 PM
0	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. I think I add perspective on issues that detract from or degrade the positive aspects of the Men's Rights movement. You may not see that as valuable, but I don't think it makes me any less of a supporter for egalitarian and humane causes. Being critical doesn't mean being a hater. It means testing an idea to see how well it holds up. When an idea is presented in a way that I find fair and acceptable based on subjective and objective standards, I'd support it. And when something doesn't meet thos…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 05:42 PM
1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. You do know SRS upvotes comments they don't like to highlight what a shithole reddit is. Most of the bad ones were downvoted until the SRS list. But that's my point - SRS doesn't allow any "lists" to be made about anything in /r/MensRights. The only people posting or voting here either subscribe, or were linked from a subreddit outside the SRS Fempire. Which means that, yes, offensive stuff is upvoted because people agree with it, not because a small group is trying to make this subreddit look b…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 05:34 PM
4	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. Yes, but most of them don't that are considered reputable and held as the standard. Do you have any links? I'd be interested in looking at those, and how the numbers compare. It doesn't account for things like volunteer firefighting or paramedics (mostly male). It also doesn't look at things like volunteer teaching or nursing (mostly female). I don't see how it would affect the study, because we know that women donate more of their time then men. Whether they're donating "professional" time or j…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 05:10 PM
-1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. I am not sure why I am trying to explain this so patiently to an SRS troll Here we go again. How, exactly, am I an SRS troll? What have I said or done here (or anywhere) that is trollish? Questioning you or disagreeing with you does not mean that someone is trolling you, FYI.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 04:48 PM
0	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. You've done much more than "cite me" in the last hour, using tactics that you've accused me of using. I was just pointing out the irony. How doesn't that give the impression that you support the idea that MR is a hate group? Because I didn't say it was? I questioned why it was still there. Maybe I didn't word it properly, but I thought it was worth pointing out. If the claim about /r/MensRights being a hate group has been refuted, why is it still on the website? (Notice I'm not agreeing with the…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 04:33 PM
3	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. Okay, but that wasn't your point. You said "these polls" skip the "men's work" stuff. I showed that this one didn't. We weren't talking about sample size.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 04:29 PM
-5	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. I don't think that's "common parlance" at all. Posting mean's you've posted. Commenting means you've commented. It's a pretty clear distinction.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 04:12 PM
-1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. Not sure how I "proved your point" - you said that if women did more for charity you'd "never hear the end of it." Women do, but you weren't aware of that fact. So tell me, how can women simultaneously crow about how they're more charitable and have that fact be under-reported?	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 04:11 PM
-2	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. Did you look through the list and note that many were downvoted or jokes or trolls that come here Yeah, I did look through the list. I subscribe to this subreddit so I'd already seen a lot of the headlines. There were downvotes on each, but not enough to prevent those posts from the top/near the top page. I'm not sure why "jokes" are somehow exempt as topic posts - sometimes they can be more damaging. And hey, if a topic is upvoted by a lot of people, does it matter if it's made by a troll or no…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 04:07 PM
0	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. Okay, who's trolling who, now? This was a list of SRS cherry-picked out of context crap about MR If that's how you see it. The list was deleted now so I don't have a reference. But it wasn't cherry-picked (as you've done with my comment history) - all of those links were recently posted and near or at the top page. Plus, you were making comments supporting the lie that we're a hate group. I was pointing out why people still think it's a hate group. I didn't say MR is a hate group. But I guess it…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 04:02 PM
1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. That link went directly to a list of mysogynistic posts made here in /r/mensrights with high positive ratings. It wasn't meant to be a positive comment. Look, I think I've been honest in saying that, while I support parts of the Men's Rights cause, I don't like the way it's been presented here. And I'm not the first one to say so. That list (which, sadly, has been deleted) was a pretty stark demonstration that there is hate speech against women in this community. And that doesn't help the MR cau…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 03:55 PM
-1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. Did you look at that Gallup poll? It looked at car repair and yard work.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 03:41 PM
-4	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. you link to list of BS by SRS Bots Oh, you mean that long, long list that simply copied and pasted the post topics from MensRights, with a link to each post? Yeah, that was sure trollish, linking directly to content from this subreddit without offering any commentary or doing any paraphrasing. How dare I let material from this subreddit speak for itself! I also don't trust any comment from a person with obvious bias and hate for the group they're posting in Everyone has "bias", so I'm not sure w…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 03:39 PM
-1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. I just looked through my own history. You have to go pretty far back to find any negative comments, and those were directed towards people who made false claims. I've made comments that were supportive of the men's rights. I've made comments that weren't. Because I'm human, I don't see every part of every issue in the same way. But that doesn't make me a troll.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 03:30 PM
-3	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. I think you mean "liar." Also, that was made in response to a post. You can see that very clearly in the image you posted. As I said earlier, I've commented on SRS posts before. But I have never posted in SRS, which is what you've accused me of.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 03:23 PM
3	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. Sorry, my wording there was poorly done. I should have explained why I mentioned that. Men do take care of household chores and childcare duties. It's just that women overwhelmingly devote more time to these activities. Check out this Gallup poll and accompanying article, which delves into the gender division of household labor. And then there's this, from the University of Warwick: "...traditional gender roles within households may imply that an improvement in labor market opportunities for wom…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 03:13 PM
1	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. It is the "other way round," but it seems like people aren't aware of it.	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 02:50 PM
-4	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. You've posted in SRSDiscussion No, I haven't. I've responded to posts there, but I've never posted. MRAs have also responded to SRS posts. Are they automatically labeled trolls here? No. Also, ultimately, who gives a shit who gives more to charity? Apparently the people above do. So do the 20 people who upvoted this misleading post. And you clearly do, because you clicked on the link. Look, I'm not going to let incorrect information be posted without challenging it. If that makes me a troll, so …	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 02:47 PM
0	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. How am I trolling? I'm offering well-cited and documented proof that refute OP's claim. And I didn't use any abusive language or make derogatory statements. People who disagree with you aren't automatically trolls, particularly if they're only offering new information or an alternative perspective. And I've never posted in SRS. What's your problem?	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 02:26 PM
11	New Study Finds Men are More Charitable than Women. Men give more money and more often to charity. And here are numerous studies that directly contradict that finding, each declaring that women are more charitable than men: From a study conducted by the University of Indiana and published in TIME Magazine From a Peer-Reviewed Study (in IZA) From a FIDELITY Gender Study Executive Summary From the Research Triangle Institute (RTI) From the National Service I think that, aside from the small sample size (500 people) and the limited timeframe study participants had to respond (three days in April…	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 02:12 PM
5	found this on r/feminism. I don't think this claim is fair. what do you think? Aaaaaand we also talk about how men suffer from the same kind of "lookism", leading to steroid abuse (to build muscle), anorexia/bulimia (to get that lean appearance) and the attendant emotional and psychological problems. In Gender Studies we compare and contrast the experiences of men and women. It's not the She-Lady Man Haters Club, despite what you believe. People who have never taken a Gender Studies course in their life (or have only taken the intro 101 class) are not qualified to discuss …	/r/MensRights	10/05/12 12:32 PM
2	found this on r/feminism. I don't think this claim is fair. what do you think? All the disney princesses are really skewed when you think about it though. Shhh. That sort of talk is discouraged around here. Stick to how the beast is getting screwed over by a feminist.	/r/MensRights	09/05/12 11:50 PM
3	found this on r/feminism. I don't think this claim is fair. what do you think? ?? I don't remember them covering that one in my Gender Studies classes.	/r/MensRights	09/05/12 11:49 PM
12	found this on r/feminism. I don't think this claim is fair. what do you think? Actually, I thought that the one thing Beauty and the Beast teaches us is that, yes, girls, your abusive partner (who threatens your family and locks you up and rages and smashes things) will eventually change into a prince if you just hang in there and love him enough.	/r/MensRights	09/05/12 11:48 PM
2	found this on r/feminism. I don't think this claim is fair. what do you think? A member of a particular forum I was on conducted a study in which he created a fake POF profile with the pictures of a VERY physically unattractive woman. This study seems perfectly sound to me! He should really submit his findings for publication. I assume his research was subject to statistical modeling and peer-review, right? I mean, the results speak for themselves! The only requirement it seems is having a vagina for these privileges. Your statement should also be studied. For science.	/r/MensRights	09/05/12 11:45 PM
1	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Fine, but if you want to point to a study but not provide sufficient citation so we can actually check your "fact," that's on you. Learn how to properly cite your sources, or risk being called a fucking liar.	/r/MensRights	09/05/12 03:22 PM
1	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Need more info. Titles, please? Table citation? I don't know if you're citing an abstract, or book, a journal article or a website.	/r/MensRights	09/05/12 03:03 PM
2	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Which research are you alluding to?	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 07:08 PM
1	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Which conflated definition? "rape occurs when someone says no and the sexual act continues"? I don't see how that's "conflated". Look, your first point was, "Our society DOES teach not to rape. It very specifically tells kids (and adults) that rape is wrong". I offered a counterpoint position ("[our society] also sends a lot of mixed messages about what constitutes rape."] You responded, ""No means no" is taught as early as grade 8, from where I am from...Your assertion that only the "violent da…	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 07:03 PM
1	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. No, you offered your personal experience as proof that all people are well-educated as to what constitutes rape. That's not "speaking globally," that's offering a ridiculous and unsupported assertion despite the fact that, wow, some people (including yourself) seem to be confused as to what rape is. You are expanding the concept of rape to include cases that are not rape. Which examples precisely aren't rape? The one where, in the midst of sex, one partner says, "stop" and the other partner cont…	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 06:17 PM
-1	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. A spoonerism is an error in speech Well, if that's the definition, I guess your username is appropriate.	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 05:06 PM
1	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Right, right. I forgot that your personal experience = universally applicable truth. My mistake. I guess acquaintance rape and date rape doesn't happen, because everyone knows "no means no", right? No reason at all to teach teens or young adults that "the absence of consent" also means "no." Or that coerced rape (in its many different forms and variations) is rape. Because everybody already knows that stuff. I would like to point out, however, that the situations you gave (people getting "caught…	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 05:04 PM
0	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. And your username is clearly ironic. I responded to an offensive blanket statement. You want to put words in my mouth, go ahead. Doesn't change the way I see the situation.	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 04:55 PM
2	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Although SRD officially claims neutrality, it is common to see strange voting patterns and derailing posts in any thread linked by them. Or maybe it's a sign that your argument isn't convincing people? Like, maybe your content is the problem? But I forgot, everything is a conspiracy around here.	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 03:47 PM
7	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Okay, our society teaches "rape is wrong" but it also sends a lot of mixed messages about what constitutes rape. I think most people (men and women) recognize that the violent dark-alley form of rape is a crime. But most rapes aren't committed by an unknown perpetrator in a dark alley. Rapists don't always punch or smack or slap their victims. Rapists don't always use a weapon. And because there's a perception in our society that a rape has consistent elements (violence, a dark alley, a stranger…	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 03:43 PM
4	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. Here's something to chew on: most rapes are not committed by strangers. Your "dark alley" example, in which a woman should take responsibility for her own assault, does not apply to the majority of rapes or sexual assaults that take place. From The National Center for Victims of Crime, since you're not likely to take my word for it: Seventy-seven (77)% of completed rapes are committed by non-strangers (Bureau of Justice Statistics, 1997). A woman is four times more likely to be raped by an acqua…	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 03:05 PM
-1	Man and r/MensRights attacked on Reddit for claiming men do not approve of rap. There are segments of minorities which suffer the same delusion. But straight white men are immune, of course. They never want to blame others for their own failures... Wow. Just discovered why /r/mensrights exists.	/r/MensRights	07/05/12 01:55 PM
-1	You want privilege? You got it! I'm not denying that false cases exist. Of course they do. But the vast majority of people (men and women) who experience sexual harrassment on the job do not report it at all. According to a recent AOL Jobs survey, "Only 35 percent of people harassed reported it; women (47 percent) are more likely to do so than men (21 percent)." So I'd say that the problem with sexual harassment is that it is under-reported, not that false claims from lying women threaten poor innocent menz. What percentage of…	/r/MensRights	04/05/12 12:13 AM
-2	You want privilege? You got it! I wasn't asking the world to bend to my will. I'm trying to point out the fallacy of your belief that, " a lot of woman who report being sexually harassed, haven't actually been sexually harassed." Unless, of course, you have some facts to back up your statement. Which I doubt you have.	/r/MensRights	03/05/12 07:13 PM
-1	You want privilege? You got it! The difference is that I don't throw a fucking temper tantrum whenever I am involved in social dynamics and bonding experiences. So in your opinion, when a woman reports being sexually harassed she's just...having a temper tantrum? Why? Oh, right, because women are just overly-emotional little children. Gotcha. That one I don't even have any idea how to comment on. Just... what? I know these kinds of ideas are new to you, and somewhat confusing, but think about it: our clothing is our way of ind…	/r/MensRights	03/05/12 06:23 PM
1	You want privilege? You got it! Women have more options and therefore have a better chance of finding clothing that actually fits. \laughs/ Oh, man, that's a good one! I'm not sure how much shopping you've done for women's clothing, but as someone who has actually done the chore for over 20 years, I can testify to how incorrect you are. Our "options" usually consist of choices that are a) more expensive then men's comparable clothing items, b) cheaper quality (not as durable or as well-constructed), c) more complex care instru…	/r/MensRights	03/05/12 06:16 PM
1	I just learned that as a man, it's privileged to question a woman about her feminist beliefs. You don't argue from a position of emotion - you examine your emotions rationally and then argue based on that rational position. Thanks for making my point for me. Emotions inform arguments. What constitutes "rational analysis" is entirely up for debate, but what is clear is that a) humans (and not just women) have emotions b) emotions inform our arguments and c) the best arguments are ones that acknowledge and reflect the reality of a) and b) /end discussion	/r/MensRights	02/05/12 01:03 PM
2	I just learned that as a man, it's privileged to question a woman about her feminist beliefs. Downvoted being a douchebag.	/r/MensRights	02/05/12 01:00 PM
4	I just learned that as a man, it's privileged to question a woman about her feminist beliefs. However, arguing from a position of emotion is always wrong and will never, ever be rational because emotions aren't rational. And you know what can never be logical? Arguing from a position of essentialism. Emotions can absolutely be rational. If I spot a poisonous snake within striking distance, it's highly rational of me to react emotionally (with fear) and take action based on that emotion. Emotion helps shape and guide our thoughts, and it informs all arguments. You can argue a point object…	/r/MensRights	01/05/12 01:09 PM
3	I just learned that as a man, it's privileged to question a woman about her feminist beliefs. Ahhhh I love the smell of misogyny in the morning....	/r/MensRights	01/05/12 12:57 PM
3	I just learned that as a man, it's privileged to question a woman about her feminist beliefs. Which "feminist theories" are you referring to? Can you be a little more specific, and perhaps provide a couple of links? They tried to elevate personal experience, relativism and subjectivity as some sort of equal - if not superior - argument; under the guise that what a women feels is more valid than what a man thinks. I haven't seen this argument from "feminists", at least not as you express it here. And you realize that you're setting up an incredibly sexist paradigm: that women feel and men…	/r/MensRights	01/05/12 12:55 PM
4	Can we discuss this [Slutwalk 2xc crosspost]? It's great that you feel confident enough in your opinion to make such a definitive statement about what constitutes rape and what is only (always) the victim's fault. You're exhibiting a profound lack of empathy, here, and I hope that no one (man or woman) in your own life is ever assaulted. Because either you'll respond like a true hypocrite ("it's different when it's my son/daughter/spouse/friend!") or you'll insist on blaming them for being vulnerable, weak and human. Either way, I feel sorr…	/r/MensRights	01/05/12 04:21 AM
6	Can we discuss this [Slutwalk 2xc crosspost]? Right, because someone preying on me because I'm too drunk to refuse isn't a crime, it's my fault. Let's blame the victim for being vulnerable, not the rapist who takes advantage of the situation. Makes sense. /s	/r/MensRights	30/04/12 10:56 PM
1	Here's some glorification of a woman who went into "She-Hulk mode" and physically dragged away, etc., a total creep on a subway. Imagine the outcry if the sexes were reversed... Hey, you make a sweeping generalization of what's said in a thread (instead of an individual comment), then you complain when the comment is edited? Maybe you shouldn't have accused 2XC of speaking with one voice. But according to you, we're all "friends" and what one says is fully embraced and repeated by everyone. Why don't you try listening to people as individuals instead of ghost repeaters?	/r/MensRights	25/04/12 06:37 PM
6	Here's some glorification of a woman who went into "She-Hulk mode" and physically dragged away, etc., a total creep on a subway. Imagine the outcry if the sexes were reversed... What "violence" are you referring to? From the article: She said she held the man with one hand and “berated” him while she waited for the cops to arrive Yep, she really wailed on him! most men wouldn't think it to be a big deal. Why are women so offended by this sort of thing? I see. Because "men" don't think shoving a dick in someone's face is a "big deal," it's not a crime. Your reasoning is flawless. The law reserves the right to disagree with you. And I think most men, being decent human be…	/r/MensRights	25/04/12 05:16 PM
7	Here's some glorification of a woman who went into "She-Hulk mode" and physically dragged away, etc., a total creep on a subway. Imagine the outcry if the sexes were reversed... No one in TwoX said "it is the responsibility of men to protect us". They suggested that, as a community, the people who witnessed the situation (men, women, teens, etc) should have intervened, at least verbally, to shame the man, remind him that he had an audience and that his behavior was unacceptable, and provide support that would have prevented the man from leaving until the authorities arrived. When another person is being threatened (and yes, exposing your genitals to someone for sexual g…	/r/MensRights	25/04/12 05:09 PM
5	Here's some glorification of a woman who went into "She-Hulk mode" and physically dragged away, etc., a total creep on a subway. Imagine the outcry if the sexes were reversed... Nobody is defending his actions. I guess we're reading different threads. What I'm seeing is a lot of, "Oh, man, this isn't that bad! She should just be chill about it!" and "I don't understand why someone exposing their genitals constitutes an immediate threat; therefore it's not violent." That sounds a lot like a defense to me. The above posters are a) trying to trivialize the initial assault by acting like the woman overreacted (good ol' "hysterical woman" strawmanning) and b) downplaying the…	/r/MensRights	25/04/12 04:53 PM
5	Enough with the myth that the wage gap is caused by discrimination! My favorite thing is when people who don't read an article show up to comment on it. showers DavidByron in confetti	/r/MensRights	17/04/12 06:36 PM
1	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap As a political slacktivist, I would much rather this issue not come about at all. Yeah, me too. There are plenty of other issues to be concerned about, like you mentioned. And I do agree that there is a class war going on, that diversionary tactics are used by politicians to win elections, and that people are gullible. But here's where you lost me: Do you REALLY think a state can ban abortions? Really? Roe vs Wade has to be overturned first. Yes, I really, REALLY do think a state can ban abortio…	/r/MensRights	17/04/12 02:06 PM
0	German Secretary for Family Affairs, Kristina Schröder, authors book to oppose Feminism: epic shitstorm Even if we presented our views in the most polite manner conceivable, there will be bound to be some who still call us misogynists. Sure, but they'd have less to base it on. And don't kid yourself: people aren't reacting in anger to the Men's Rights movement because it "challenges the status quo" - it's shit like the comment above that turns people off.	/r/MensRights	17/04/12 01:31 PM
1	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Thank you for the extra info and the links. I took a look at Wikipedia's Page Deletion Policy and I'm not sure that "feminists" (those mustache-twirling villains!) could have deleted TJB's page. It's possible, of course, but it seems more likely that his page was deleted due to citation problems or because it violated some of Wikipedia's publishing guidelines. After all, random nutjobs, even organized nutjobs, can't get a page deleted - that has to be done by an administer, and they make the del…	/r/MensRights	17/04/12 01:17 PM
1	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap I'm just amused that you used the word "retard" when discussing intellectualism.	/r/MensRights	17/04/12 04:56 AM
-1	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Lolcow? Really? I guess I'm free to "believer" what I want, as at least I can express myself without resorting to childish name-calling. And I'm truly sorry that you believe feminism is worthless. As toxic as you appear to be, I honestly pity you: without feminism, and without the sacrifices of all those generations of liars and victim-profiteers (really, you should read your own comments - they are genuinely disturbing!) we wouldn't even be able to have this conversation as free-thinking human …	/r/MensRights	17/04/12 04:47 AM
3	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Or maybe you should create a Wikipedia page for him. Put his image on posters and placards and bumper stickers, and plaster the town with them. Organize a memorial march for him. Chain yourself to the courthouse door for him. Keep working until everyone in America, in the world, knows his name. Just don't wait for anyone to do it for you. And don't complain when others don't see it as a priority. "Lack of sympathy" and "popular opposition to [your] goals" is no more and no less than other groups…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 09:56 PM
4	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap I can see your point, I think. People who are engaged in a fight for equality should default to an "equality for all!" setting, instead of, "equality for my group!" Am I right in my interpretation of your points? And I think that's a reasonable, logical expectation, but unfortunately we're hampered by a worldview that doesn't result in reasonable, logical behavior. We're locked into a paradigm where the interests of one group are believed to inherently conflict with another group's interests. Or…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 09:44 PM
-1	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Sorry, my mistake, Sugar Tits. I was just trying to return the nickname favor. And I assure you, the disgust is mutual.	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 08:24 PM
3	German Secretary for Family Affairs, Kristina Schröder, authors book to oppose Feminism: epic shitstorm "Women, what are you complaining about? Just be happy your husbands and boyfriends do not kick you to the curb in favor of our numerous, inexpensive, and legal brothels." L'sigh. And people here wonder why the MR movement on Reddit doesn't get more respect.	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 08:17 PM
0	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap But Tiny Balls, I thought you wanted to play the fact distortion game! After all, you're all about the hypothetical...	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 07:44 PM
-1	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Yep, clearly that's exactly what I was suggesting!	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 06:21 PM
2	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Yes, it is, thanks!	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 06:20 PM
-2	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Right! I said that it has never happened! The example of a woman failing to advance/earn more money in her career for factors beyond her control has never happened before! I'm glad you pointed it out! I just wanted to know what you thought of the hypothetical situation. I mean, you offered one above about the wage gap (which everyone knows is a myth, except maybe well-sourced national statistics), and I just wanted to play along. Why does that make me a troll?	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 06:15 PM
2	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Women of a similar ilk never seem to make it, despite their math skills, since they felt marginalized by the academic setting-- again the case of women portraying themselves as victims. The women who do make it though tended to have exceptional study habits, persistence, and competitiveness. I...don't quite follow your argument, here. You say that the average women in the program felt "marginalized" and that only the exceptional women made it through, and yet the women who didn't make the cut fa…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 05:49 PM
5	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap The link with the 105% isn't displaying properly - I can see the table with the salary information, but no data is entered other than "NA" for two columns. Can you screenshot it? (I'm not asking for you to prove it to me, I'm just curious and want to see the data). Okay, from the wiki article: Women who pursue non-traditional careers, earn 150% more over their lifetimes. Considering that in 2003, women earned 71% of what their male counterparts made, girls who pursue math, science and engineerin…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 05:36 PM
-3	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Your fights will be won a lot easier than ours will be (due to the same groups in most cases). Okay, yes, but what feminist groups are able to do today is the result of over a century's worth of advocacy work. And please don't underestimate how hard it will be to protect even the basic right to free choice - it's not going to be "easy" by any means. That being said, it is going to be very difficult for the men's rights movement to bring their issues to the forefront. It was hard for women to get…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 04:59 PM
-4	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Men have lobbying for a while, it's just that everyone is completely unaware of the issues, and it seems like people don't care as much anyways. Why do you think men's lobbying hasn't been successful? I mean, why aren't more people aware of the issues? Women, minorities and other groups had to lobby for a long, long time to get their issues recognized, and it took decades for some people to take notice. (Particularly those people who thought they stood to lose something if those causes were succ…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 04:37 PM
5	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap I did a google search with "salaries in STEM by gender" as keywords, and came up with quite a few results. This study by the US Department of Commerce, seems to be pretty thorough and well-sourced, but if you find something better I hope you'll provide the link. In the Dept. of Commerce study, it concludes that, after every factor is taken into account (including hours worked, educational qualifications, etc), "for every dollar earned by a man, women in STEM earn $0.86." (See Fig. 3). That's the…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 04:11 PM
-8	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap I'm going to play the hypothetical game with you too, okay? Pretend, just for a second, that women also have families to support, that they don't "spend money" on "bullshit", that they cut corners, they don't support an "extravagant lifestyle," and that they do spend every free second not taken up with housekeeping, cooking, cleaning, mothering, etc furthering their career skills. (Remember, we're pretending - I know that no woman in the world does any of this; only men do, because only men are …	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 03:49 PM
-14	Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gap Yeah, you're absolutely right. "Feminists" are really, really happy about women being denied access to legal and constitutional healthcare choices. We are FUCKING ECSTATIC that we have to fight the same battles over and over and over again. Wouldn't you be? This election will not be about MRA's or even real equality, that's for damn sure. Y'know, generations of women as well as racial and sexual minorities have risked their lives, their freedom and their well being to make sure that their issues…	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 03:32 PM
-7	Obama White House pays women less than men, records show... but of course, no mention of job positions taken into account. Yep, you nailed it. Men and women are different species. Nice one!	/r/MensRights	16/04/12 03:11 PM
3	Guess who admits to being a Troll? Guy who claimed girlfriend tried to steal his sperm: linked to account not blog or their post. I don't seem to recall many people defending the punch either. Take a look at the reply to the very first comment on this page: i certainly wouldn't stand up in outrage over that, but i also think a little physical reaction to someone fucking with you or your stuff is justifiable, both morally and legally (depending on the state). regardless of gender. Or some of the comments up and down thread. There's a lot of justification going on here even though everyone knows that the original post was fi…	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 01:44 PM
-2	Ryan Gosling saves feminist from being run over. Feminist is indignant. Um, she is British. They drive on the opposite side of the road. She reflexively looked in the wrong direction because, to her, oncoming traffic comes from the opposite lane.	/r/MensRights	06/04/12 01:05 PM
7	feminist media angry at lawmaker for insinuating women might falsely file for rape I think the "feminist" media you cite (and hey, there are many feminisms. Groups of women with different social, racial and cultural concerns don't get together and elect a media to represent them as a united voice) aren't angry at the lawmaker for insinuating that women might falsely file for rape. They're angry that this was offered as justification to limit access to abortion services. And I think there was also some outrage at the Senator's insinuation that married women can't be raped. Beca…	/r/MensRights	24/03/12 01:45 AM
1	Husband must pay childcare for twins conceived after couple's separation if you can't take a mans word that they made him do something he didn't want to then you can't take a womans word. ...except in a case where a man's signature is on a legal document, and he's accusing his wife of forcing him to sign. He has to prove that he was forced to sign his name. The court just can't accept his word because, well, his signature was on the consent form. the burden of proof is on the man that he had consent, not the other way around like it should be. ??? I'm confused by you…	/r/MensRights	21/03/12 05:10 PM
-2	Husband must pay childcare for twins conceived after couple's separation Wait wait, you're comparing extortion (if that is the case) with rape? I certainly hope the burden of proof is different.	/r/MensRights	21/03/12 04:03 PM
2	Explanation requested in AskReddit about r/mensrights Yeah, an outsider being critical and asking questions IS pretty dumb. Why can't they just leave you guys alone? That's how a circlejerk works, dammit!	/r/MensRights	15/03/12 01:03 PM
12	Male Privilege. You realize that being "privileged" isn't used in the sense of "he has an advantage", but is used in the sense of "his judgement is clouded by his advantaged perspective", right? THANK YOU for providing such a clear explanation of the different paradigms for "privileged" being used in this debate. Upvotes forever!	/r/MensRights	08/02/12 04:29 PM