It's shit like this Reddit...

rottingchrist · 2012-08-13T14:02:49+00:00

You can't reason with people who've swallowed their humanities textbooks whole.

gege33 · 2012-08-13T15:05:06+00:00

I've always found it to be very convenient that the feminist definition of sexism automatically excludes women from being able to actually be sexist. Nice to see the same self-serving concepts being expanded to other area.

no1elsehasthisname · 2012-08-13T15:34:50+00:00

"males are the privileged group and will never face institutionalized sexism"

you see, by the author, feminists, and the rest of society thinking that it creates an institutionalized sexism against men.

ArchangelleDumpster · 2012-08-13T15:41:50+00:00

As a highering manager, I know there is institutionalized sexism against white men.

It's as simple as this. Not based on personality, not based on face to face interviews, but based on paper qualifications when two people are equally qualified go with the one who isn't a white male.

This is HR policy all across America.

dakru · 2012-08-13T15:47:42+00:00

They're defining sexism as prejudice + power and then defining power as something that men have. It's a clear attack on men.

That just made me think. If men supposedly have power, making men the only ones capable of sexism, misandry can theoretically still exist... If it's done by other men.

altmehere · 2012-08-13T15:52:16+00:00

The entire line of comments is pretty sad actually, with the poster being accused of privilege simply for "Sympathizing with people who are 'accused of being privileged'."

It's just a way of ensuring the "privileged" group can't defend itself:

You're privileged if you're X.

If you sympathize with group X, you're privileged.

If you're privileged, you're not entitled to an opinion/can't be discriminated against/whatever.

TommyGun991 · 2012-08-13T16:17:47+00:00

These people are so funny, their line of reasoning is simply tragicomical, I lack the words to to express my disguist with them. They think society works like this: heya, white male, want a 120 000$ a year job when you leave higschoool after being pampered your whole life and doing absolutely nothing?

Gender policing? A battered guy calls the cops on the girl who kicked the shit out of him and he gets arrested? Losing your kids, house, car and half of your paycheck just because of your wife's whim which was based on violent behavior and abuse such as you putting laundry on the hamper instead of in the hamper. Males jumping in front of bullets to save girls, drowning in shipwrecks, getting out last from a house on fire, etc.

Rape cases? Hey, people don't even reckognize that a male can be raped. I'd say males are in an unfair position. What in the hell is this person talking about, a guy can be sued for harrasment just because he looked at a woman's ass, in 10-20 years a guy won't be allowed to mastrubate to women who didn't explicitly allow him to mastrubate to her.

Oh, and please, go explain that ''false rape accusations'' to a 16 year old guy who got 5 years in prison just because some girl accused him of rape.

This whole comment is so sad, I think I'll go cry in the corner and suck on my thumb.

Koskap · 2012-08-13T14:41:33+00:00

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PellagiusTheSane · 2012-08-13T15:21:18+00:00

People like this cannot be reasoned with. When something is NEVER your fault; you just simply cannot be reasoned with. No amount of statistics, data or personal anecdotes will make a dent in his/her belief system. No use of even trying.

theozoph · 2012-08-13T15:17:42+00:00

Another group that has been turned against its own people and culture and dreams of seeing it destroyed. Gay activists and feminists, doing their little dance to turn us against each other.

2012-08-13T15:50:19+00:00

Seems like the idiot you quoted just copy-pasted all the bullshit they spewed.

agiganticpanda · 2012-08-13T16:43:34+00:00

The whole idea of power dynamics being intertwined with all the isms is such a joke. Power dynamics can promote isms but are not mutually exclusive.

Falkner09 · 2012-08-13T18:31:41+00:00

Males are the privileged group and will never face institutionalized sexism.|

yet, in the next sentence...

They may face gender policing from other males or individual women who hate them, but not sexism.|

see, this is the trick. just redefine the terms racism and sexism whenever they're used against the class that's usually superior. Ironically, people who do this only serve to perpetuate the system of division in question.

rrrrrrutuweporituwpo · 2012-08-13T19:47:44+00:00

I am a feminist and I think FieldsofAsphodel's view of sexism/racism is wrong. The discrimination of anyone based on sex, race, age, etc. (regardless of if they are in the power group) is wrong. Especially, in circumstances where a white male (the supposed power group) is removed from the group and placed within a group of women, or group of non-white people, etc.- the power dynamic shifts. It has nothing to do with who in society has the majority "privileged group" as FieldsofAsphodel says, but rather who at the time is the privileged group. We function daily in smaller disproportionate groups compared to the "society average" so it's possible for this dynamic shift to happen wherever you are in your daily life - when you happen to be in an area with people not exactly like you (you are the minority). And this can happen to anyone daily.

trentshipp · 2012-08-13T16:28:44+00:00

Can we please not turn this into SRS 2.0?

TheAlphaGareBear · 2012-08-13T16:30:46+00:00

Well, he's wrong. I don't think there's anything else to say.

2012-08-13T16:41:09+00:00

Looks like someone got SRSly trolled.

TheOnlyKarsh · 2012-08-13T18:49:27+00:00

I wish someone would have told this to the school I went to when I was in 3rd grade. I was the only white individual in the entire school. They didn't call giving me swats with a razor strap or whipping my ass in the bathroom a power dynamic though.

Karsh

AnonTheAnonymous · 2012-08-13T23:49:25+00:00

Rape is the boogeyman, not false rape allegations. Rape is punished severely, false allegations are rarely punished, and only very lightly punished when they are. Thus, the sexism is against men.

Saying racism and sexism cannot happen as long as they are the majority/privileged group is idiotic.

Blacks were the majority in South Africa, so majority has nothing to do with it.
Jews were socioeconomically better off before the Third Reich, so being "privileged" has nothing to do with it.

ANY time ANYONE treats someone unfairly based on race, including WHITES, it is RACISM.

ANY time ANYONE treats someone unfairly based on sex, including MEN, it is SEXISM.

Anytime anyone tries to defend racism and sexism as long as it is against whites or men, they are a knuckle-dragging blockhead in need of serious historical re-education, and they are a racist sexist piece of shit.

DoesNotTalkMuch · 2012-08-13T18:20:35+00:00

I appreciate that a lot of people here are offended for personal reasons, but could you stop downvoting me in my discussion with Teargarden? The thread was 12 hours old when it started, nobody was reading the board and it was practically a private discussion at the time.

I was genuinely interested in what he has to say, and now instead of the reasoned argument that teargarden was giving me I'm getting vulger PM's and posts of "FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU" from third parties

If you think there's something wrong with what I'm saying, please point it out in a response instead of downvoting me. "I disagree" is not what the downvote button is for.

Strange_Dragons · 2012-08-13T17:22:36+00:00

women in rape cases are subject to enormous sexism. They are scrutinized for any way they could have been at fault for the rape, their clothing, sexual histories, etc are called into question and they are blamed for what happened to them.

ಠ_ಠ

I don't even have words

MultiUseAccount · 2012-08-13T18:05:51+00:00

This post is way in the negative now. I hope it was like that before you posted the link here.

VanillaSoul · 2012-08-13T18:52:40+00:00

The sad fact is that this is actually taught in college. When I attended the University of Michigan, I took a course called "Minority Groups." The professor, who was black, taught us that the group in power, white males, could not suffer discrimination. I call him out on such nonsense and, of course, I received a "C" in the course. BTW...all the exams were essay and therefore subjective for him.

rightsbot · 2012-08-13T13:56:17+00:00

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ImTotallyNotYourMom · 2012-08-13T19:24:20+00:00

To be fair, all of that person's posts have like a shit-ton of downvotes.

blueyb · 2012-08-13T19:30:28+00:00

For reference, the poster in question, FieldsofAsphodel, is a frequenter of SRS.

Explains it all, methinks.

eberkimer · 2012-08-13T19:54:53+00:00

false accusations of rape happen at the same rate as for other crimes

Maybe but I can't accuse someone of murder and they get convicted of it with little to no evidence.

ThePigman · 2012-08-14T03:02:11+00:00

"racism is systematic and includes power dynamics,"

From the context i can only assume that this moron meant systemic not systematic.

Anyway, the whole "If it isn't systemic or institutionalized it isn't an -ism" argument is rubbish. If a black man believes whites are "blue eyed devils" why the fuck shouldn't that be covered by the definition of racism? If some female supremacist wants men wiped out why should that view not be covered by the term sexism? The definition of such important concepts should be a society-wide decision, not something decided behind closed doors by a minority of bigots for their own convenience.

Darkapb · 2012-08-13T21:22:04+00:00

The only thing wrong with this reasoning is that EVERYONE has some sort of power over another person. his definition of racism/sexism etc is solid, but saying that you cant be racist toward whites or sexist toward men is stupid.

vintermann · 2012-08-14T07:54:53+00:00

The fairly obvious thing they miss is that power isn't just a single number, comparable in all contexts. In some situations and in some arenas, the supposedly less powerful group may be in a position to act bigoted with impunity.

Another thing is that even if you model power as a single number, just because I have less power than you doesn't mean I can't abuse you with the little I have. Even if you hit me back with more force. Abuse is not a matter of double-entry bookkeeping, it doesn't cancel out.

2012-08-13T21:13:55+00:00

cry more faggots

electriophile · 2012-08-14T04:53:32+00:00

The number of downvotes is pleasing to my eye.

Title	It's shit like this Reddit...
Author	ImTotallyNotYourMom
Upvotes	106
Comments	112
Date	August 13, 2012 1:55 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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