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| 1 | When a crazy woman tried to sue Keanu Reeves in paternity suit seeking $3 million a month in spousal support and $150,000 a month in retroactive child support. And she didn't believe the DNA tests.In her affidavit, Sala suggested Reeves uses hypnosis and disguises himself as different people, including her now ex-husband I guess it's more like the scramble suit from "A scanner darkly". | /r/MensRights | 30/05/19 08:24 PM |
| 2 | The Boy Crisis: Experimental Evidence on the Acceptance of Males Falling BehindQuality post! This is what I come here for, not crappy gender traditionalist greentexts. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/19 04:25 PM |
| 5 | Do you fit the definition for incel but don't want to be affiliated with the hate that comes with it? Come discuss all your romantic struggles on r/involuntarilylonely Females welcome too!Why start this subreddit when /r/IncelsWithoutHate/ is already a thing? They seem reasonable enough (not overtly anti-men), and they're well established. It's a lot of work to build up a good subreddit, are you sure it's worth it to compete with them? | /r/MensRights | 02/04/19 01:25 PM |
| 8 | Do you fit the definition for incel but don't want to be affiliated with the hate that comes with it? Come discuss all your romantic struggles on r/involuntarilylonely Females welcome too!Voluntary loneliness is called solitude instead. Just like sex, it's a thing that can be both great, and still beyond horrible if it isn't voluntary. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/19 10:09 AM |
| 7 | Freshly banned for saying there are only two sexes. YSK /r/menslib is not /r/mensrightsYou won't get banned for opinions around here, but bear in mind that this subreddit was founded by a guy who explicitly worked for "everyone who has, had or desires to have a penis". Views on trans politics is largely orthogonal to sex (I bet there are more TERFs than non-feminist people with similar views on Ts), so this has little to do with any gynocentric takeover. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/19 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Thanks to all the women going into STEM, the future of technology is in good hands!Maybe it's retro demo scene equality! | /r/MensRights | 27/01/19 08:55 PM |
| 5 | Reddit User Claiming to Be Google Insider Describes How the Tech Giant 'Screwed Over' James Damoremanipulated our internal Memegen Sounds more like how one of 4Chan's endless fake insider would speak. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/19 05:22 AM |
| 3 | Paternity fraud so common that 23andMe trains customer service to deal with itListen, I'm not saying paternity fraud doesn't matter, or isn't common. I'm just saying, it's not surprising 23andMe get many such calls. Even if it was really rare in their customer base (which I don't believe) they would still have to be prepared for plenty of such calls. So the argument is bad. It must be OK to call out a bad argument, even when what it's arguing for is reasonable. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/18 03:59 PM |
| 1 | Sweden's 'man-free' feminist music festival is found guilty of discrimination by authoritiesMany laws are vastly better for men in Sweden. Alimony is virtually unheard of. Shared physical custody after divorce is the norm (and highest rate in the world). Parents who have shared but still uneven custody can't move to the other side of the country without the other parent's consent. That's MR issue #1 right there, almost entirely fixed. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/18 11:29 AM |
| 3 | Sweden's 'man-free' feminist music festival is found guilty of discrimination by authoritiesLagen om sjöfartsskydd The law of naval protection, seriously? (Looks it up) Holy cow, it's right. Men are allowed to search men for contraband, women are allowed to search women and men. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/18 11:20 AM |
| -1 | Paternity fraud so common that 23andMe trains customer service to deal with itIf it was 1 in 100, it would still be often enough that 23andMe staff had a case every week, I would think. So of course they train them in it. This doesn't say much about how common paternity fraud is. Also, these are the children finding out their parents aren't who they thought they were. Paternity fraud may be a common explanation, but far from the only one. That the child didn't know, doesn't mean the father didn't know. | /r/MensRights | 20/12/18 11:12 AM |
| 2 | After all the brigading that we had lately, there's a real pushing to make the MRM be supportive of the feminist movement, and I think that will be the day that the MRM stop being a movement for men’s rights.If so, it would be moving in the opposite direction from every other stigmatized subreddit. As I recall, one of the first moderators appointed by kloo2yoo identified as feminist, and they made a big point of it too. This subreddit has changed a lot over time. When /r/redpill came, it became a lot nicer and focused on persuation, because although r/redpill didn't come from here, a few gender traditionalists who had been hanging around here trying to win converts found themselves a new home. When … | /r/MensRights | 10/12/18 08:32 AM |
| 2 | After all the brigading that we had lately, there's a real pushing to make the MRM be supportive of the feminist movement, and I think that will be the day that the MRM stop being a movement for men’s rights.We older posters know about Karen DeCrow, for instance, who did all of her activism for men from inside a feminism movement, and also about many who tried and were disowned for it. Criticizing feminism is fine, building an identity politics cult around feminism being bad isn't. It's just another label. Pay attention to what people do, not what they call themselves. | /r/MensRights | 10/12/18 07:42 AM |
| 4 | After all the brigading that we had lately, there's a real pushing to make the MRM be supportive of the feminist movement, and I think that will be the day that the MRM stop being a movement for men’s rights.The upvoting here, like on any other subreddit, is not an accurate representation of what the subreddit likes. Everyone has a threshold for what they're going to upvote of what they see, for most people that is 1. Very high (they vote on almost nothing) and 2. They only vote on something they agree with 100% (So no room for nuance that you might disagree with or even which would make you stop and think), and in addition made them laugh (or snarl, or cry, or otherwise provoked an emotional reacti… | /r/MensRights | 10/12/18 07:30 AM |
| 1 | Can somebody explain to me why this Stormy Daniels thing is such big news?? I mean, the affair was consensual. And I’m sure many high profile men have to enter into similar agreements. It’s ridiculous that this GIRL is getting away with this extortion and nobody cares.It's a good case for "never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity". Politicians, not to mention secret service leadership, are capable of all the stupid, ego-driven decision making we know and love from the corporate world, and then some. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/18 09:21 PM |
| 2 | Washington Post: 'Female-named hurricanes kill more than male hurricanes because people don’t respect them, study finds' Honestly, I thought it was satire. SadIt's not satire, but bad research. Look up Andrew Gelman's critique of "himmicanes" and the journal this was posted in. | /r/MensRights | 12/07/17 04:59 AM |
| 1 | If we accept that certain injustices that plague men have an evolutionary/biological basis, can we ever hope to change or correct them?Simple answer: yes. People talk about nature vs. nurture, but they forget the first step on that ladder: situation. Most of the things we do, good and bad, are determined mostly by the immediate situation. Second, they're determined by the slightly longer-term situation, "nurture" or culture or whatever we want to call it. Last and least, it's determined by the very long term situation - genetics, "nature" and such. But the solution is always the same: fix the situation. Then things get a lot be… | /r/MensRights | 21/05/17 02:14 PM |
| -1 | Phyllis Schlafly, a prominent anti-feminist and early leader of the social conservative movement, died Monday at the age of 92If she wasn't on the far right in other matters, she'd fit in just fine with many mainstream feminists. It's perfectly acceptable to be against equal rights around draft, custody and alimony there. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/16 05:07 PM |
| 3 | Phyllis Schlafly, a prominent anti-feminist and early leader of the social conservative movement, died Monday at the age of 92she did more the MRM than very many. For the MRM, you mean? Only indirectly, by successfully mobilizing women against equal rights. This showed that women's privileges aren't necessarily illusionary or unimportant... and that women can selfishly be hostile to equality without any men pulling their strings. The MRM is for equal rights, in case you didn't know. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/16 05:05 PM |
| 3 | Phyllis Schlafly, a prominent anti-feminist and early leader of the social conservative movement, died Monday at the age of 92Nice try, traditionalist. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/16 04:58 PM |
| 0 | Phyllis Schlafly, a prominent anti-feminist and early leader of the social conservative movement, died Monday at the age of 92It's anachronistic to call her anti-feminist, the way the word is used today. Self-declared feminists were split over the ERA since it was proposed (in 1923!), and it's not as if most modern feminists are for full equality in the draft, alimony and custody matters either. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/16 04:57 PM |
| 1 | So, You’re a Male Feminist in an Open Marriage … ?Maybe he thinks he will from this article? | /r/MensRights | 30/04/16 09:43 PM |
| 4 | CBC: MRA Posts Naked Shots of Women Trying to Stop His Event In MontrealIt's deliberate, no doubt. In particular David Futrelle has ingratiated himself in many newsrooms and never missed an opportunity to label any bad man an MRA. | /r/MensRights | 07/08/15 12:15 PM |
| 1 | So here's some criticism about MRA's brought to you by SRD.You recount all the arguments/accusations with "you" instead of "we". Why? If you think "we" should respond, why don't you respond yourself? Aren't one of us are you? Yes, you are. At least in the eyes of the people who wrote this shit - I guarantee it - and that's what matters for the sake of your argument that we should address it. Assuming you're acting in good faith in posting this, and not just trying to stir up shit, you should be just as offended. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/15 12:46 PM |
| 1 | Testing the Patriarchy Theory: A comment from KiAWhen women run, women win… as often as men do The problem with this is the same as with the claim "when men seek it, they gain custody". For custody we know that on their lawyers' (presumably sound) advice, men don't seek sole custody unless they have an extremely good case. There might well be a similar selection effect for women in elections, that only those women with a good chance bother to run. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/15 03:22 PM |
| – | Best countries for men's rightsWhat particular law on sex would be against EU law? There is the sex sale law (criminalizing buying sex, but not selling), but while that is a poor law, it's not against any EU rules. | /r/MensRights | 12/06/15 07:09 PM |
| – | Best countries for men's rightsYou've probably heard many bad things about Sweden, but I'll point out, in Sweden it is illegal to move to another municipality without consent of your co-parent if you have shared custody. Shared custody and equal time are the legal default: unless you agree otherwise, you will get it (unless you're a drug addict or mentally ill or something). It is better than both Denmark and Norway on this. Remember that there's more to life than gender issues, too. How good it is to be a human in country X … | /r/MensRights | 12/06/15 01:32 PM |
| 2 | Why is the general consensus on reddit that this subreddit is horrible and sexist?Yeah, yeah. If we had listened to the likes of you, who cry about the acute existential threats around every corner which will supposedly wipe us out anytime we fail to implement your preferred cowardly fascist policies, we would never have gotten anywhere. Your crocodile tears for the coming collapse of society have never worked here. Go back to your neoreaction subs and complain about how dumb we are. | /r/MensRights | 10/06/15 05:06 AM |
| – | Suzanne Venker: "Why men won't marry you."Norm or not, that shit is dangerous. Having a stay at home wife you are at extra risk for alimony, and you're boosting her all the weapons of shaming, social control (she will have a social life, you won't by comparison) and empathy gap privilege ("You even did all the housework?!"). What do you get? The temporary feeling of being useful and brave provider, the illusion that you are the strong one, the tough one in charge who knows what's best. Yeah, we know the r/redpill people lap up that stuf… | /r/MensRights | 11/05/15 07:48 AM |
| -5 | Woman to become FDNY firefighter... despite failing crucial physical testThe set of all people who pass basic training, is smaller than the set of people who pass or fail. We can assume cooking skill is randomly distributed and independent from ability to pass basic training. The best of a large set is on average better than the best of a smaller set. Was that spelled out clearly enough for you? Sheesh, either mensrights has changed, or this got linked to by redpill or something. You wouldn't always get downvoted to hell for stating a simple statistical fact that goe… | /r/MensRights | 04/05/15 04:32 AM |
| -49 | Woman to become FDNY firefighter... despite failing crucial physical test... and because of that, it's a statistical fact that food in the army on average isn't as good as it could have been ;) | /r/MensRights | 03/05/15 08:28 PM |
| -49 | Woman to become FDNY firefighter... despite failing crucial physical testThere's a place for specialization in fire departments. Not everyone needs to have the strength to break open a door. Sure, it's nice to have everyone being able to do it in a pinch, but fire departments do a lot of things which have nothing to do with physical strength (and has a lot to do with education), and it would be nice if everyone were optimal there as well. I assume the people who make the call know what they are doing. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/15 07:34 PM |
| – | Red Pill about to surpass Mens Rights in subscribersSad, but not so surprising, given that a lot of the best posters (Legolas, the Honey Badgers, etc.) don't post here much anymore. There are various reasons for that. Many are just busy elsewhere. Some have gone over to the more moderated /r/femradebates ... MRAs are in the majority there, and the feminists are of the sort who think having a discussion with MRAs is worthwhile (so other feminists see them as virtual MRAs already). An election is coming up in the US, so lots of things are in motion… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/15 09:41 PM |
| 1 | The text of the mattress girl lawsuit will shock youShe will be of another generation. Although that generation of feminists have their issues too, it would take serious effort for them to keep up with the crazy and get to the point where they could e.g. encounter tumblr feminism and not go WTF. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/15 08:36 PM |
| – | The text of the mattress girl lawsuit will shock youThis screams untreated/unacknowledged borderline personality disorder. They can go from worshiping you as a god one day, to seeing you as a demon fresh from hell the next. I'm quite sure the girl really believes he deserves anything bad that she can do to him. | /r/MensRights | 28/04/15 08:28 PM |
| 1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!No it doesn't. Men are more likely to be geniuses, that doesn't mean there aren't any female ones Usually, I'm not a big fan of IQ as a model for human intelligence. But you may be changing my mind a little. It's clear you're lacking something to understand a simple argument. Three die rolls YWSD, three die rolls. Try again to understand it? | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 07:51 PM |
| 1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!Asserting higher variance in men's abilities only makes it harder to explain Judit Polgar. You can't count on your kids even getting as high IQ score as you (the higher it is, the more unlikely it is: regression to the mean, remember?), so if exceptional IQ is what you need, Laszlo Polgar should have failed miserably even with three sons. Think about it. He got three rolls of the dice, metaphorically speaking. Even with loaded dice (his genes?), the odds that the best of his rolls could compete … | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 07:29 PM |
| 0 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!I don't gamble. But I'm sure you are a decent poker player, because it would never, ever show on your face that you had a rotten hand. Projecting confidence is all that matters in demonspawn land. In the real world, it is an advantage to be able to update your priors, too. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 04:41 PM |
| 0 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!So based on that last line, you would have bet he had extremely little chance (assuming you know about regression to the mean, and that Laszlo and his wife were far from extreme either). Sure, you would have given him a higher chance than "average" (meaning the average guy I assume) but still an abysmally low chance. And you would have given an even lower chance once you saw he got daughters. And you would have lost the bet hugely. He would have taken you to the cleaners. But would that change a… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 04:06 PM |
| 0 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!You always "know" you're right anyway. You are the most puffed up, evidence immune person I've met in here. Nothing I say makes any difference. But are you trying to say you would give daddy Polgar good odds that he could manufacture a super-grandmaster? I think I know you well enough to know that you wouldn't, but by all means, if you agree with daddy Polgar that "genius is created, not born" I would love if you accept it and abandon your neoreactionary bullshit. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 02:52 PM |
| -1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!I went a grand total of 5 minutes into your post history. But I mean it, please tell where you all from racist subreddits found your way to r/mr. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 05:14 AM |
| -1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!Oh, so it's your sockpuppet? I've been doing nothing but addressing idiotic "arguments" (really assertions) all day long. I even answered the trolls' ones in another reply. The quality of discussion here has gone to the dogs, what's up? Can you tell me why you have decided to send in the clowns, guy from r/coontown? | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!"world class?" He wasn't even an IM as far as I know, nor was his wife. He was smart I'm sure, but lots of people are smart. Let's say it like this: imagine that you, the neoreactionary POS and actual misogynist demonspawn, went back in time and made a bet with daddy Polgar. What odds would you give that he could create a top 10 player? Not high ones! Coming from you, this is such a blatant attempt at post hoc justification that it isn't even funny. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/15 04:51 AM |
| -4 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!I just noticed, you're a four day account. I guess I'm wasting my time on a troll. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 06:36 PM |
| -5 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!My belief is based on what I know of human flexibility, and it's also a much better default hypothesis than yours. just don't try to insert those beliefs in basic statistics I am not impressed with your basic statistics skills. You don't appreciate how hard it would be to get a (nearly) random woman into the top ten if women on average had less potential. If Lazlo Polgar was a random Hungarian athlete instead of a random Hungarian smart guy, do you think he could raise a daughter to compete in T… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!... I want to mentally and physically dominate these women ... <--- This is a zero-hour account, troll. But given the willingness of people in here to reach for thin circumstantial evidence and bad statistics to prove that women are worse in chess does not impress me, and unfortunately I can't say you ALL are just uneducated noobs. I've been here for a long time, and I don't buy this bullshit. Tell that to the sub you're trolling for, will you, when you go back and make your boasting post. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 06:10 PM |
| – | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!She was ranked #8 in the world, and did in fact win games against #1 in the world. So yes, she came close. Which is pretty damn impressive when you consider she was basically just a random Hungarian girl whose father was determined to make an absurdly good chess player. Mostly, top chess players come from children who naturally (and pretty randomly) show an early and intense skill at chess, but in Judit Polgar's case, that focus was artificially created. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 06:02 PM |
| 0 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!the fact that a smaller number of them play chess at a competitive level is in of itself an indication that they are on average worse at it. Maybe it's enough to suit your huge confirmation bias, but it's not enough to convince me. It is at best extremely weak circumstantial evidence. Here's some better circumstantial evidence, in case you don't know: the world's strongest female chess player (world #8 at her peak, currently #66) was the result of an extreme parenting experiment. Her father set … | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 05:56 PM |
| 0 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!Treating the first figure as one dataset That's the apples to oranges dataset. It's completely useless for the purpose of determining if women are better at chess. Citizens in Grimsby may be above world average in chess and the ones in Tokyo may be below average, but I can still guarantee you that the 50 strongest in Tokyo are better than the 50 strongest in Grimsby. A hundredfold higher population will do that. Do you still not get that point? Why do you keep bringing it up? | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!There's no telling what the error bars are on that, he doesn't even give the sample size, but we know he's looking at a very small sample. He's grouping countries arbitrarily and strangely (there are apparently no countries with > 16% but < 25% women?) This is beyond sloppy. The author simply isn't statistically competent to even begin proving what he set out to. Nor are you, apparently, since you quoted the totally bogus apples to oranges comparison first. We have established that you are able … | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 12:40 PM |
| -3 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!Tellingly, you quote the apples to oranges comparison. There are vastly fewer female chess players at any level, so the top 50 female players are of course weaker. You get that, right? It's like comparing the top 50 players of Tokyo to the top 50 players of Grimsby. The author does admit this obvious fact later on in the article, but there he doesn't argue that men are stronger. He has instead switched to arguing that the pointed out fact doesn't prove the negative. It doesn't conclusively PROVE… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 12:12 PM |
| -1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!Stay on topic please, this is not about "what kind of type" I am, and we're not going to start talking about everything else under the sun. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 11:20 AM |
| 1 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!Question to you and xNOM and ZorbaTHut. Did you ever play games like chess competitively, like in a club? Because sure. Most players are decent. But there's a sizable minority of chess players - any "mind sports" game player, really - who are assholes with an inferiority complex. To them, the best player is the one they won't even have to risk losing to. If you quit the club because they're being an ass and you just don't enjoy it when they're around, that's a win in their book. It's sad, but ch… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 11:03 AM |
| 0 | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!It's really not hard to understand. I even use punctuation properly, unlike you. Let's try again: you consider it statistically proven that men are better than women in chess. Where's the statistics? I'll grant that fewer women play chess, but I know of no evidence that's because of inability. Those who do play seem to do well. Also, I'm not trolling this sub. I've been on reddit for 8 years, and I think I still have most of my comment karma from this sub, even though I rarely post here anymore.… | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 10:11 AM |
| – | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!You talk about statistics, but you're not backing it up. It's easy to see that there are few women playing chess, it's not easy to prove this has anything to do with ability. Possibly because it isn't true. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 09:56 AM |
| – | Apparently it's sexist to say women are worse at chess. But its OK to have separate women's tournament, even though Chess doesn't involve physical prowess!They just statistically do worse. Do you have numbers on that? From a quick look, it seems to me there are roughly as many top women players as you'd expect, given their share of the chess playing population as a whole. Women only tournaments is the chess world's attempt to make chess more popular with women. You can take issue with that (and some of the strongest women do, refusing to play in those tournaments), but it's not in itself evidence women are inherently worse at chess. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/15 09:52 AM |
| – | Debunking Men's RightsWhat? Do you need a source to back up that lawyers do their job responsibly? This is a basic statistical consideration: it is not random who seeks custody, you're less likely to seek it if you know you're unlikely to get it. I never get such "argue for me" posts. Your challenge isn't to convince them with facts anyway! It's to convince them that they should care about men. Facts are easy. For one thing, they're on your side. For another, our gender actually has an (unfair, even!) advantage when … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/15 07:09 PM |
| – | Debunking Men's RightsYet another site promoting the "men need only ask" lie. News flash: lawyers actually give reasonable advice. The vast majority of time men do not ask for custody/more time, it's because their lawyers correctly tell them they have no hope of getting it. Same with settlements: if you think a settlement means everyone agrees and is happy, you can't have set foot in a courthouse. Settlements rarely happen because people agree on what SHOULD be. They happen because people agree on what WILL happen as… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/15 05:28 PM |
| – | Why did Walter Scott run?I wonder where you got that idea. Anyway OP, I noticed it too. I saw it in that news article that came out before the video, and therefore painted the cop in a good light and the victim in a bad one. He had several prior arrests for failing to meet his child support payment, when he was unemployed as I understand. Failing to make the money a judge thinks you should be able to make, that's "contempt of court" in the US. Quite possibly he ran because he was afraid of getting arrested over back pay… | /r/MensRights | 09/04/15 01:01 PM |
| 2 | Sometimes women's false accusations of rape are just a "mistake" and the women are in "desperate need of help".Hypoagency to the rescue! | /r/MensRights | 08/04/15 04:51 AM |
| 1 | Uber Drivers spends 4 months in jail over false sexual assault allegation; disproves allegation with cell phone recording.Many more powerful people love Uber. They're backed by silicon valley venture capital and Goldman Sachs. They like to pretend that they're underdogs, but they're not, and god help the poor schmucks driving for them. Want to bet on the odds this guy gets to drive for them again, despite being exonerated? | /r/MensRights | 07/04/15 05:29 PM |
| 6 | Uber Drivers spends 4 months in jail over false sexual assault allegation; disproves allegation with cell phone recording.Completely understandable and justified. Though, stuff like this is also why people underestimate the problem of false accusations. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/15 05:23 PM |
| 1 | Uber Drivers spends 4 months in jail over false sexual assault allegation; disproves allegation with cell phone recording.Once they go down that road, they're going to have a tough time justifying why you can't quietly discriminate on your driver's age, educational level, economic class and why not race and sexual orientation as well. Then that's going to lead to some demographics making more because they're in higher demand... then Uber has a problem. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/15 05:20 PM |
| 2 | I’m a male who identifies as a feminist. Starting conversation about gender equality between MRAs and Feminists.I was very concerned posting this in /r/MenRights because of stereotypes and the idea of what this subreddit would say to me as a feminist That's not what should concern you. Sticks and stones, you know, and we don't actually have any power. What should concern you is this: If you went to a mainstream feminist site, any one, and even tried to defend what you're doing right now - listening, engaging, trying to understand, not demonizing us or casting aspersions on our "real" motives - you would b… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/15 04:46 PM |
| 2 | I’m a male who identifies as a feminist. Starting conversation about gender equality between MRAs and Feminists.You can, but in my humble opinion, those campaign have blind spots a mile wide, which will prevent them from ever reaching their equality related goals. They wholeheartedly embrace the traditionalist sexist doctrine, expressed nicely in Taoism, that men act and women are acted upon. See, when feminists say: "look at these poor women, what the world is doing to them! Men need to do something about that!" they have traditionalism thoroughly on their side. They're fighting an easy fight. But they'r… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/15 04:36 PM |
| – | I’m a male who identifies as a feminist. Starting conversation about gender equality between MRAs and Feminists.There is r/femradebates which is explicitly for feminists wanting to engage mras and vice versa. Most people in here are willing to engage, but not quite all. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/15 04:21 PM |
| 3 | CEO of Reddit: Ellen Pao says she "weeds out" candidates who don’t embrace her priority of building a gender-balanced and multiracial team. She has also has removed salary negotiations from the hiring process because studies show "women don’t fare as well as men."If you think muslims shouldn't be in Europe because some muslims are terrorists, then you can't complain that you're judged by what some white nationalist is either. By all means. If you don't want to be associated with that guy, you won't have to. But if you want to wink wink nudge nudge towards muslims as a demographic, then you're really condemning yourself, since by the same standard your demographic is worse. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/15 05:02 PM |
| – | CEO of Reddit: Ellen Pao says she "weeds out" candidates who don’t embrace her priority of building a gender-balanced and multiracial team. She has also has removed salary negotiations from the hiring process because studies show "women don’t fare as well as men."They plan to share ad revenue with submitters. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/15 04:50 PM |
| – | CEO of Reddit: Ellen Pao says she "weeds out" candidates who don’t embrace her priority of building a gender-balanced and multiracial team. She has also has removed salary negotiations from the hiring process because studies show "women don’t fare as well as men."The ideology which led to the worst terrorist attack in Norway was the one of Bat Ye'or, gates of Vienna, etc. The rabid remnant of Iraq war cheerleading. In other words, your ideology. You think you have a natural ally in r/mensrights. You don't. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/15 03:18 PM |
| – | CEO of Reddit: Ellen Pao says she "weeds out" candidates who don’t embrace her priority of building a gender-balanced and multiracial team. She has also has removed salary negotiations from the hiring process because studies show "women don’t fare as well as men."It also has perverse economic incentives built in from the start. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/15 03:06 PM |
| -8 | CEO of Reddit: Ellen Pao says she "weeds out" candidates who don’t embrace her priority of building a gender-balanced and multiracial team. She has also has removed salary negotiations from the hiring process because studies show "women don’t fare as well as men."Opacity and haggling in wages hurts a lot more than just women - the ability to negotiate a good wage is dependent on a lot of things orthogonal to performance. So I have no problems with that. Don't get distracted: there are far worse things to be worried about with Pao. Such as what she might do under cover of "weeding out" the supposedly insufficiently dedicated to equality. Don't assume the problem is that she believes what she says, because that's far from certain. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/15 03:00 PM |
| 3 | FSF adds another feminist lawyer to its board of directorsNo, poor outcomes and poor decisions on this level are super-common. I can't see that it has anything to do with anyone's gender-political beliefs. I honestly don't understand why you're so upset at them. One of the big free software advocates where I live was a Scientologist. He's out now, thankfully, but there was nothing wrong with his FS efforts when he was in. Keep software politics and gender politics separate, until and unless they start mixing them. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/15 12:07 PM |
| – | Is there a single feminist who accepts the fact that men are on average worse off than women according almost all statistics measuring the quality of life and discrimination?You'll never find an objective answer to that, which measures ought to count in the who has it worse olympiad. But there is something you could look at, and that is risk taking. I take for granted that both men and women are, as individuals, the best judges of our own interest. And while we are not hyper-rational homo economicuses, to the degree we fail at being rational, I believe both genders do it in equal amounts. In competitive games, it's rational to take risks when you're behind, and play… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/15 03:20 PM |
| – | Clitoraid [clitoral repair surgery for suffers of FGM] supports Florida mother who faces prison for refusing to have her little boy Genitally Mutilated. Clitoraid asks U.N. to ban childhood Genital Mutilation worldwide for both gendersThe problem you had could be solved with a minor incision that would heal in a matter of weeks. It's because of your doctor's extreme cultural biases that he recommended amputation instead. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/15 11:24 AM |
| 1 | I'm in a debate with someone, and there saying women have been discouraged growing up from bein interested in computers, and I want to point that the boys have not just be discouraged but also strait up bullied for being interested in computersIt's always a tradeoff. Kids aren't dumb after all, they know the advantages of doing well in school, even if they want other things too that conflict with it. For boys, school is less of a friendly, engaging place. Hell, the world is less of a friendly place. So it's easier for other things to pull you away from it. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/15 12:35 PM |
| 1 | How do you get a 50% female student body from a far below 50% female pool of qualified applicants without gender discrimination? Tip: you can't.Actually, you can. The way to do it would be to make, say, one engineering school 50-50, and five others 100% male. Vice versa for nursing schools. That isn't merely some mathematical curiosity. It is, I believe, better for everyone, men and women. There is a point where where people stop noticing your gender and associating it with everything you do - where you're no longer a male speaker at a nursing conference, but just a speaker. I've heard 40% as one estimate. Point is, if you can't reach t… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/15 10:20 AM |
| 1 | and for the fourth time, the mens rights political compass poll!That was the label he assigned to the axis, but the axis itself was defined by the data. Give it a better name if you wish, you can see what questions matter for it and by how much (something you can't at political compass). | /r/MensRights | 08/03/15 07:47 PM |
| – | and for the fourth time, the mens rights political compass poll!I again recommend Chris Lightfoot's criticism of that site, and his alternative survey where the axes and weightings are decided objectively from the data rather than arbitrarily by the makers' opinions. On mobile, can't link, but do google it! | /r/MensRights | 04/03/15 06:31 AM |
| 1 | I think feminists might have taken over the CDCIt's worth noting that Graeber is pretty hardcore SJW (he saw Kendzior as the victim in the Jacobinghazi affair) but he's not ready to dismiss his lying eyes. No matter how widespread and politically popular these myths are, no historian can pretend they're true. In this day and age, ancient legal codes are a google search away: Check out whether women could own property under the Code of Hammurabi, or what was the penalty for rape (of women) under the Visigothic code. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/15 04:38 PM |
| 1 | Honey Badger Radio: Ask the BadgerNot really a question for the radio channel, but did you catch the #jacobinghazi meltdown on twitter? Apparently, if you receive anonymous threats you have a right to misrepresent all who remotely disagree with you, and label them rape apologists when they try to defend themselves. It's gross abuse of the victim card of course, but the targeted people have no way to talk about that, much less defend against it. Got to have pity with them. Tumblr feminism seems to be leaking into academia. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/14 03:09 PM |
| 1 | Instead of having "feminism" and "men's rights," why isn't there one civil rights group that works to solve inequalities suffered by both genders?right now, women's problems are bigger than men's problems Know what? I disagree. There was a time I might have just gone along with this as sort of obvious (as long as you don't think too much about it), but now I have a son. Going along with this view without examining it critically would potentially be to neglect my son. He'll have a harder time in school. He'll be at more risk for violence. He'll be at more risk for mental illness and suicide. He'll be at more risk to go to prison (and also … | /r/MensRights | 06/06/14 08:09 PM |
| 3 | why the MRM can't get along with feminism just yet: partisans, peacemakers, and the balance of powerSommers identifies as feminist. Farrell identifies as egalitarian. This is beside the point. If they are the peaceful voices trying to build bridges, does it matter which side of the river they started from? SilencingNarrative is, as I see it, correct: The reason they're being discussed now, is that more conflict-seeking people in the MRM have more aggressively attacked the other side's partisans. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/14 05:40 PM |
| 1 | Why /r/MensRights should distance itself from Paul Elam and call him outPoint is, argue with Elam on that. Argue that the system isn't that bad. Don't argue that it can never be bad enough to warrant non-cooperation of this sort. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/14 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Why /r/MensRights should distance itself from Paul Elam and call him outIf you want to see how evidence restriction corrupts, look at a case from the different angle: the Cecily McMillan case. That woman, a OWS protester, was sexually molested by a cop, probably deliberately in order to bait male protesters to leap to her defense. It was caught on video. The jury, however, never got to see that evidence. She was found guilty of assaulting a police officer. Sometimes the court system really malfunctions. Sometimes it's rigged against you. Imagine someone said that du… | /r/MensRights | 05/06/14 01:56 PM |
| 2 | Why /r/MensRights should distance itself from Paul Elam and call him outBear in mind, Paul Elam has given room for lots of more "moderate" (or at least less offensive) voices. GWW, Typhonblue, Qanan all wrote articles for AvfM. He's also reched out to other critics of feminism/heterodox feminists, like Warren Farrell, Christina Hoff Sommers and Erin Pizzey. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/14 12:53 PM |
| 2 | TIL pointing out the double standard of the M&M analogy makes me a racist.After the "being a man is playing on easy mode" analogy and the Schroedinger's rapist analogy, add the poisoned M&M analogy to the list of really godawful analogies that fall apart with the slightest critical thought. The ONLY implied assertion in the analogy is that discrimination based on (low) frequency is justified. There's nothing in the analogy to suggest that "opressed" or not matters. A poisoned M&M kills kings and slaves alike, Mr. Frogman, and there are poisonous people in any group. I… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/14 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Can we put something in the sidebar to explain how we're not even remotely related to the red pill?Agreed MRSAs need to go away! They have no place in the modern world. #NotAllBacteria. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/14 07:00 AM |
| 2 | 5 Uncomfortable Truths Behind the Men's Rights Movement -Cracked.comClickbait. If you go there, use adblock. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/14 05:03 AM |
| 3 | The rate of suicide among men has remained unchanged over the last 30 years - with suicide currently the biggest killer of young men in the UK. The rate among the female population has decreased by 50I've thought about suicide. (No, not doing it myself, relax). It follows such weird patterns. On one hand, I guess everyone here knows men commit suicide more often. Also, it's mentioned occasionally that black men commit suicide less often than white men, the one indicator of social misery they do better on. Native Americans, who suffer many of the same social problems as black americans, have a sky-high suicide rate. Then there are very wealthy celebrities, people who live the life that for la… | /r/MensRights | 30/05/14 08:45 AM |
| 2 | question for mensrights from a womanIs it hard to talk to any girl because of the assumption that somehow because you are talking to her you are hitting on her? No, but it used to be. The nightmare situation would be that someone you weren't interested in interpreted something you did as a pass on them, and would label you a creep and share that impression around. This was a lot scarier than the thought of rejection in itself. But you know, that is years ago. Adults are both better at communicating and at not wildly misinterpretin… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/14 08:33 PM |
| 3 | "And every time a male courier comes to the door, every time I get into a cab with a male driver, every time I enter a lift alone with a strange man or a group of blokes or walk through a car park orMen are generally physically stronger than women, so it makes sense to be more afraid of someone physically stronger than you. This is not the reason. I could also point to crime statistics to argue that I'm "entitled" to feel afraid of this or that minority. Some groups are overrepresented there. But I won't. Why? Not because blacks, or Muslims, or Roma or what have you are always so nice and clean and charming and harmless-looking. But because any given person is entitled to be treated as an i… | /r/MensRights | 27/05/14 07:56 AM |
| 5 | If MRA's are all a bunch of loser men who "can't get laid", then why is child custody, equal child access, Baby Jail (Child Support) and Vaginamoney (Alimony) the core issues of the MRM?Worth mentioning that up here in Scandinavia, alimony was abolished, in large part due to feminists who viewed it as an incentive to stay at home instead of working outside the home. That was where the battle had to be won according to them. If a woman wanted to stay at home after divorce, they'd say tough luck, she doesn't know her own good, we're not helping her!! If you combine the anti-alimony attitudes of those feminists with the foul mouths of contemporary Scandinavian feminists, they migh… | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 01:34 PM |
| 2 | Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread.Yup. He seems most similar to Anders Brevik to me. In ABB, we've received some rare documentation on what fucked him up (reports from psychiatry in connection with CPA and custody conflicts, since he was 4), wonder if we'll ever see omething similar on this guy. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 01:17 PM |
| 2 | Official "MRAs blamed for UCSD mass murder" thread.The admins, for some reason, have been on the ball lately. A few false positives (shadowbanning people without good reason), but a lot more true positives too, judging by recent voting patterns, and that 2xc thread. | /r/MensRights | 26/05/14 12:31 PM |
| 2 | The harassing PMs and threats that 2XC users have been complaining MRAs have sent since they became a default turn out to be lies or false flag operations by regular users, according to admin /u/DeimorzThat makes it all the more impressive. When cupcake, of all people, says only 2-4 reports were genuine... If you've run into her, you know where her bias lies. shaper_pmp says in that thread that it's easy to identify fake accounts with the kind of data they have. That may be true, but from the internet I know, vanishingly few developers actually try that. Any sort of statistical analysis on comments is beyond most web developers' skill level. My guess is one of the new reddit employees knows a … | /r/MensRights | 25/05/14 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Feminists femsplain to actresses they really are feminists even when they insist they aren't, and then femplain they are dumb and young. So much for actresses or other women being rational, able, compIt's no problem to label someone a feminist even if they don't call themselves that, and ditto for MRA. As long as people are consistent in their labeling. It's when people juggle different definitions one runs into the true scotsman fallacy. | /r/MensRights | 22/05/14 11:57 AM |
| 2 | I'm doing a presentation on Men's Rights, what would want to see me cover?Your main challenge is going to be overcoming people's strong inclination to see men as actors and women as acted upon. Don't think statistics on their own can make the argument, it will get rationalized away. Especially in high school, good grief. I think you should start with the part of the argument that feminists embrace - that we are predisposed to see men as competent, in charge, in control. Use data to make this point. Then ask the question: but what happens when men are seen as in contro… | /r/MensRights | 20/05/14 08:39 AM |
| 4 | Congratulations to GirlWritesWhat on reaching 1 million views on her "disposable male" video.I hate that the good arguments she makes, which she has in common with Typhonblue and Warren Farrell, gets packade up with cheap TRP-style evo-psych. But I'm not that surprised it gets popular. Anything to do with evolution is white-coat and high status, and nobody wants to risk looking like they're on the side of the pious backwards fundies. Supporters share it because of the high status of evolutionary arguments, opponents share it because it's a lot easier to shoot down the whole argument whe… | /r/MensRights | 19/05/14 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Congratulations to GirlWritesWhat on reaching 1 million views on her "disposable male" video.The problem is that evolutionary speculation is GWW's weakest side. She does not quite appreciate that for every actually correct evolutionary explanation, there are ten plausible-sounding incorrect ones. Not that this sloppiness is unique by any means. One of the grandfathers of evo-psych recently said straight out that he thought it should be their business to make bold statements, and leave to biologists to sort out the evidence. In that case, why be a scientist at all? GWW should qualify exc… | /r/MensRights | 19/05/14 01:02 PM |
| 3 | Meet "Feminist Frank," An Ironic New Feminist Meme...Go ahead. When they co-opted NAFALT, they can't complain about a little co-option back. | /r/MensRights | 19/05/14 08:03 AM |
| 1 | A live text showing how easy and common the threat of a false accusation can happenCongrats to you for getting out at a time you can still have some sympathy for her. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/14 10:13 AM |
| 1 | A live text showing how easy and common the threat of a false accusation can happenNever heard of it. But a fictional "vindication fantasy" movie isn't quite the same as a story claiming to be real. I've seen enough of that all around either way. An unsourced story like this ought to be ignored. | /r/MensRights | 12/05/14 10:11 AM |
| 3 | Common Ground: "It’s Time We Retire The Statement 'A Real Woman.' Isn’t It?"~ MRAs should support Feminists in encouraging Women to stop judging and shaming other Women for having normal, healthy curves.Although there's a lot of totally unjustified loathing of fat people, I've never heard of a woman's femininity being questioned on account of weight. That's just not the angle it takes. Intelligence, self-control, attractiveness, those are questioned, but not femininity. I'd love to hear of counterexamples, as they would somewhat challenge the frequent MRA assertion that women get their largely positive gender identity (not role) "by default", whereas men have to perform to be seen as men at all… | /r/MensRights | 12/05/14 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Step-fathers are nine times more likely to sexually abuse their daughters than biological fathers. Why do we never see feminists argue in favor of stable families?No, psychopathy is and has always been a moral judgment. It's impossible to tell if someone lacks a conscience or just doesn't listen to it. Empathy is not the same as conscience, you can be conscientous without having the emotional connection of empathy, and you can have the emotional connection of empathy and be a total ass. (You might feel bad about it, but look, that didn't stop you). Disassociating is useful to act immorally, it's not necessary. Defining someone as incapable of acting consc… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 10:24 AM |
| 3 | Men’s rights activists dispute woman’s copyright claim over ex-husband’s suicide noteWell, I think we've found a piece of copyright abuse that Cory Doctorow isn't going to write about! | /r/MensRights | 05/05/14 07:45 AM |
| 1 | Honey Badger Radio: Dr. Money and the Destruction of David RiemerStrangely enough, we can thank transsexuals for society waking up to one of the awful things in this story. You cannot both be trans-positive and claim gender is 100% socially constructed. But there's still that other thing. The "medically unnecessary procedure sexually mutilates boy"-thing. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/14 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Best short analogy for "enthusiastic consent"Promoters of "enthusiastic consent" are typically also concerned about inequalities of power elsewhere. That is fair enough, inequalities of power do matter a lot, if only they didn't have such a one-dimensional view of power... But anyway, why don't they apply the "enthusiastic consent" standard elsewhere? If workers had to display enthusiastic consent in order to work in sweatshops, would that help? Are teacher/student or therapist/patient relationships OK as long as the dependent party is "en… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/14 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Mind boggling level of cencorship over at r/feminismAlthough a man preferring (and finding) the perfume-free stuff for myself, I must admit to a certain horrified curiosity about "freshly handed penny" perfume, if such a thing existed. The perfume free stuff does sell. It's just that it's very hard to distinguish yourself in that area and sell at the markups a brandy-brandy smell can sell at. We don't know what a majority of women prefer, we only know (to a good guess) what women times money prefers. And there are path dependencies here, of cours… | /r/MensRights | 27/04/14 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Game of Thrones Rape Scene Provokes Mixed Messages From FeministsThe latest episode of Game of Thrones has touched off a raging debate that reveals cracks in feminist dogma about "rape culture."The observation isn't primarily about gay parents. It's about divorced or never married heterosexual parents, of which there are maybe a thousand times as many data points. If a mom marries someone else than thec hild's biological dad, that does not improve outcomes for the child over mom staying single, on average. I would guess that for the gay parents we have today, much as with custody-winning fathers, you probably don't get to be in that position unless you're exceptional. I'm all for gay c… | /r/MensRights | 26/04/14 05:26 PM |
| 3 | I was trying to get a better understanding of the term shitlords when I came across this blog garbage that links back here quite a bit. I can't believe she believes what she is saying as much as she can't believe we believe what we are saying.Aaaah, that's right. I always mix them up. | /r/MensRights | 24/04/14 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Wil Wheaton posts an infographic on Tumblr regarding a survey of this subreddit. Where did this come from? Is it legitimate?How exactly did I betray this sub's roots? I guess I must have, since you replied to me? | /r/MensRights | 15/04/14 06:18 PM |
| 4 | Wil Wheaton posts an infographic on Tumblr regarding a survey of this subreddit. Where did this come from? Is it legitimate?With a three letter username, I expect he turned it off ages ago, so I don't really expect it to register. | /r/MensRights | 15/04/14 06:17 PM |
| 3 | Serious question: why is the Mens Rights Movement so opposed to feminism?This is Gish gallop linking. You're hoping the audience believes your link supports what you're saying (it doesn't), and expect us to waste time to explain why it doesn't. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/14 09:22 PM |
| 2 | BBC quiz show University Challenge criticised for under-representing women, despite teams being selected meritocraticallyThose men are a minority in the college system for being men, and from a school that used to be all-woman to boot. Even though they got on the team fair and square, some people think they should not be there. This is sexism, in the same way that the anti-Jewish university quotas in the old Soviet Union were antisemitic. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/14 09:06 AM |
| 1 | BBC quiz show University Challenge criticised for under-representing women, despite teams being selected meritocraticallyThat would be an interesting artistic statement. Probably lacking in entertainment value though. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/14 09:02 AM |
| 1 | Please ELI5 MTGOWThat is just a label for men who for one reason are not interested in seeking relationships with women, despite being heterosexual. They vary widely in reasons for doing so, and what they do instead but they have in common that they aren't happy or comfortable with their own gender role, since that by definition includes seeking attention, approval, and admiration from women. Some see it as their own personal issue - they have no opinion on gender roles in general, but can't or won't live up to … | /r/MensRights | 02/04/14 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Poked the bear and got doxxed.Of course, that is not a nice thing to do. In some forums, (quora, cough, cough) atheists just looking for an argument with non-atheists are so common and flooding so many topics that I've taken to blocking people for a single dumb or offensive question. But as I understand the OP admits it wasn't a nice thing to do. However, her behaviour was still way, way worse. You just don't do that. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/14 10:06 PM |
| 1 | To those who have arrived here for the first time because of the SNL sketch... Welcome. Please join the discussion.It's hard getting straight, all these people who don't identify with the same things as me! | /r/MensRights | 10/03/14 08:07 AM |
| 1 | Study finds that female directors discriminate against female playwrights , while males rate "exactly the same" regardless of genderPatriarchy theory failed at another prediction? Shocking! | /r/MensRights | 06/03/14 09:50 AM |
| 2 | Eric Holder makes case for felons to get voting rights back [ 5.8 million Americans are not allowed to vote because of felony convictions, nearly 38 percent are black.] Compassion for men is A GOOD THING!There are plenty of democrats who want the government to be "tough on crime" and view not taking away voting rights as unacceptable charity to the undeserving. Probably, there are also more like that among marginal democrats, and you need to keep those in a close election. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/14 02:11 PM |
| 1 | Eric Holder makes case for felons to get voting rights back [ 5.8 million Americans are not allowed to vote because of felony convictions, nearly 38 percent are black.] Compassion for men is A GOOD THING!Your first and last sentence doesn't add up. That doesn't seem like a move you make to be popular, nor does the whole thing seem likely to succeed in the US. That makes me slightly more hopeful that it's motivated by principles. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/14 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Eric Holder makes case for felons to get voting rights back [ 5.8 million Americans are not allowed to vote because of felony convictions, nearly 38 percent are black.] Compassion for men is A GOOD THING!It's in the sense "this was expensive enough for you that we trust you're not going to do it again". Ideally, the convicted accepts that and goes to prison (or accepts the fine) willingly in order to rebuild the trust he broke. It is a "debt" of trust that it's supposed to repay, not a debt in money. But the philosophy of restorative justice is hardly on topic here. What matters is that denying voting rights to felons can be used (and is used) to target specific demographics for disenfranchiseme… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/14 10:15 AM |
| 3 | SOS-"No, I Will Not Take the Men's Rights Movement Seriously"There's a reason jezebel links are automatically removed. Well, two. One is they'll write anything for clicks, which this doesn't give them. Another is that they'll write anything for attention, which this still gives them. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/14 04:43 PM |
| 3 | "If A Man Hits A Woman, The Man Is At Fault. If A Woman Hits A Man, The Man Is Still At Fault" -Anthropology TeacherTraditional feminism runs up against some serious challenges of interpretation in meeting very different cultures. | /r/MensRights | 26/02/14 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Suicide is a gender issue that can no longer be ignoredWell, most people when they talk about feelings, seek empathy and understanding. It doesn't help if you ignore society's conventions, you'll get litte of it (maybe even less than if you kept quiet). But even the would-be helpful pundits like this Guardian lady, persists in blaming men's "stubbornness" and "emotional illiteracy". | /r/MensRights | 22/02/14 08:49 PM |
| 2 | Honey Badger Radio: The Sarkeesian Effect--Did 4Chan white knight?I think it's a good idea to not be too concerned about what people think. While I understand you may be sick of hearing of Sarkeesian, it seems quite evident that both you and many other posters here aren't aware of the evidence that she played this for profit. | /r/MensRights | 15/11/13 02:02 PM |
| 3 | Honey Badger Radio: The Sarkeesian Effect--Did 4Chan white knight?It's not exactly conspiratorial to suggest Sarkeesian went on 4chan to promote her Kickstarter. Either she did, or someone with access to an unpublished picture of her did, because the posts were there. I think that the possibility of for-profit trolling is something it benefits everyone to discuss. It's not only pop-feminists like Sarkeesian who do it - for instance, quite recently the political science professor Henry Farrell accused the blogger Evgeny Mozorov of it. If Sarkeesian was a for-pr… | /r/MensRights | 15/11/13 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Sweden wants 2 females per movie. This is getting ridiculous.I would really like to have a link to the source. Of course leaving your country to work abroad is pretty adventurous, not something all youths do... it's possible men are overrepresented. It does not seem that way in Norway, but if women work in retail, and men work in construction, recycling plants etc. (as a now-returned friend of mine did) it's possible the men are more invisible. | /r/MensRights | 08/11/13 09:08 AM |
| 2 | Sweden wants 2 females per movie. This is getting ridiculous.Was it compared to women? Probably an artifact. Right now, there is youth unemployment in Sweden, but plenty of jobs for youth in Norway. There is very little bureaucratic hassle moving from Sweden to Norway, the language barrier is small, and there's no discrimination to speak of. There's also a currency gap, so your wage earned in Norway gets you far in Sweden. I haven't noticed that there should be more Swedish young men as opposed to women (although women are probably more visible in retail)… | /r/MensRights | 07/11/13 03:11 PM |
| 4 | r/MensRights: THANK YOU. My uncle was released from prison a few hours ago after his daughter returned from hiding demanding and getting (for now) a guardian ad litem. Could not have done it without you!Parental alienation exists, but obviously it's also going to be falsely claimed a lot whenever the children of a high-conflict divorce favor one parent over the other. Thing is, if they're alienated they're alienated. It does no good to force them to come live with you, and that the mother would even ask such a thing rings all sorts of alarm bells. The best you can hope for from a court if the children are really alienated, is some statement of fact and perhaps a pathway to rebuild the relations… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 10:16 AM |
| 1 | MRA's, please don't do this! What other groups within MRA do you think give us a bad name?Although I'm nothing related to the medical professions, my favorite "feminist icon" is Florence Nightingale. All the more because she had to contend with the fact that what she did was largely compatible with good Christian Victorian women's gender roles. So she fought the "feminisation" of nursing into primarily being about women putting their sympathy on display, and insisted that it should be practical, observational and even math-based. Pity she largely failed. Nursing ceded a lot of ground… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 09:39 AM |
| 1 | MRA's, please don't do this! What other groups within MRA do you think give us a bad name?Since you are Norwegian: http://www.klassekampen.no/article/20131101/ARTICLE/131109997 Not bothering to post a google translate of this, as GT handles Nynorsk badly and the statistical translation has a tendency to turn "woman beats man" to "man beats woman". But it is about what I describe above, that middle eastern men are heavy users of domestic violence shelters for men. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 09:28 AM |
| 2 | MRA's, please don't do this! What other groups within MRA do you think give us a bad name?That is, the average man in for instance Pakistani society is involved in oppressing the average woman. But it's very different from what they teach in gender studies. Pakistani society, especially rural, places oppressive demands on both sexes. On women, they restrict expression and independence. On men, they restrict safety. In a tribal society, the larger unit is paramount - men and women exist for the family (clan)'s benefit, not the other way around. It's also not as black and white as it m… | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 09:26 AM |
| 2 | MRA's, please don't do this! What other groups within MRA do you think give us a bad name?Except maybe breast milk, most things that are enjoyable are acquired tastes. You have to try it a little to realize that they are enjoyable and worth pursuing. What we enjoy and decide to pursue is shaped by what we are exposed to. Our inherent enjoyment of an activity maybe varies between the sexes (as it varies between individuals), but if you never learn about or get the occasion to try that activity, it becomes a moot point. | /r/MensRights | 04/11/13 09:16 AM |
| 1 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”the conflict between the education system's expectation that boys will act the same way girls do and the reality that they don't. But is that really all there is to it? I'm not so sure. I'm worried boys are treated worse not just because how how they are, but in fact for what they are - and that even if they were perfectly "girly" they would be treated and do worse. I have a child in primary school age. Right now the main problem for us is reading. He reads fast, and with few errors, but his tex… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 02:59 PM |
| 1 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”The entire argument about boys struggling in education relies on there being at least some level of inherent difference in ability and/or inclination. No, it doesn't. I mean, obviously there are some inherent differences, but you could imagine (unlikely as it is) that the differences were entirely down to how kids are treated. The more modest position that the differences could be alleviated by treating boys better/more appropriately, isn't even unreasonable. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 12:34 PM |
| 1 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”You know, they did that where I studied, a small community college. Local businesses completely dictated what courses were offered. Local programming shops were often making fertilizer tables in Delphi and Excel macros (and yes, this wasn't that long ago), so for us in software this wasn't too inspiring. My guess is it was that way in other disciplines as well. Academia should be ambitious. Even local colleges like mine shouldn't just give business what they want, they should have an opinion on … | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 12:21 PM |
| 1 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”Depends. One one hand, candidate A may fail FizzBuzz. On the other hand, candidate B's code almost certainly racks up technical debt and places serious burdens on other people working on his code. I'd want to see code samples first. Then I'd give a small timed coding problem, nothing algorithmically difficult. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 08:48 AM |
| 1 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”Nobody has failed to hire me because of a lack of formal software training - ever. As usual, education isn't so much to prove what you have learned, as to prove that you are capable of learning. If you have a degree in civil engineering, you've worked through a pretty demanding education. (This is not saying that it should be that way. As someone with a formal software education, I can say many employers are pretty bad at judging developer competence). | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 08:44 AM |
| 1 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”If Raunien has great potential as a chemist, but the interview/self-promotion process prevents that from being recognized, then arguably the problem isn't with the person. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 08:36 AM |
| 1 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”Well, what's the alternative? Dictating what people should study, like in the Soviet Union? Sure, it gave them some great mathematicians and opera singers, but... | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 08:34 AM |
| 4 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”The average girl will be ahead the average boy, that doesn't mean all girls will be ahead of all boys. Nor does it say anything about explanations. If no one talks to you in your early years, I'm sure you can measure that in the language centers of the brain. But then it's nothing inherent to the brain that is the explanation for that child's linguistic underdevelopment. We know boys and girls are treated differently from a very early age. Yes, surely some mental differences are biological/inher… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 08:21 AM |
| 5 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”It has been shown that boys typically have less developed language centers and more developed spatial reasoning centers An emotionally neglected or abused child will have less developed language centers too. Take care not to use biology as an explanation for how things are. It's a description of how things are, and the degree to which the explanation is inherent differences it says very little about. | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 08:15 AM |
| 3 | “Girl behavior is the gold standard in schools,” says psychologist Michael Thompson. “Boys are treated like defective girls.”There is no objective metric to determine who's ahead in any given area. It depends on what you value, and the whole point is that teachers (male ones too!) value traits that girls have. Even so, it's totally dumb to cast it as some sort of biological inevitability. A thousand things affect your development (which is not a story of one-dimensional progress) at that age. How you're treated affects your physical development - this is really obvious and undeniable when you think about it, yet we pe… | /r/MensRights | 01/11/13 08:09 AM |
| 1 | A crowdfunding program for women exclusively. Speculations on what would happen to a male exclusive one?Feel free to message me when it's online, I follow this sort of stuff. | /r/MensRights | 29/10/13 07:07 AM |
| 1 | A crowdfunding program for women exclusively. Speculations on what would happen to a male exclusive one?Yet another real estate crowdfunding site? | /r/MensRights | 28/10/13 03:10 PM |
| 1 | A crowdfunding program for women exclusively. Speculations on what would happen to a male exclusive one?the taking and holding of money in a complicated kind of pseudo escrow. Most crowdfunding sites dispense by that and quietly ignore the little "money returned if the project doesn't raise enough to go through" stipulation. This is just fine and dandy for project starters, who are either too simpleminded to admit that their project might not reach its goal, or to greedy and scammy to care anyway. There is a lot of greed and stupidity in crowdfunding currently. What you see on Kickstarter (and the… | /r/MensRights | 28/10/13 01:42 PM |
| 2 | Feminist Jaclyn Friedman slams MRM "And make no mistake: anti-woman hate is the defining feature of the MRAs..."Elam is not uncontroversial here for his strategy of deliberately saying things that can be quote-mined as offensive, or his "it works" defense. Still, if you've followed him for a while you know what his core positions are, and they're a hell of a lot more sympathetic than they've been painted as. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Honey Badger Radio: Anita and the Scourge of the Girl GamerNo, then it's conning. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 09:41 AM |
| 3 | Feminist Jaclyn Friedman slams MRM "And make no mistake: anti-woman hate is the defining feature of the MRAs..."I dare say we know a bit more about redpillers and PUAs than most. There are those who care enough about gender issues enough to investigate and try to understand, and then there are those who don't or for some reason won't. | /r/MensRights | 25/10/13 06:38 AM |
| 2 | "For the under-40s, women have won their battle. It's young men we need to worry about... We’re looking at a new inequality being incubated, because male horizons are narrowing."It merely means that they hit certain developmental landmarks on average slightly younger than men do. And who decided which developmental landmarks were important? There are enough differences between boys and girls' brains that a society with different values (even society as it was 50-80 years ago) could easily come to the opposite conclusion. You say it doesn't mean they are better, smarter etc. Maybe not. But the overwhelmingly positive associations of the word "mature" as applied to childr… | /r/MensRights | 24/10/13 12:53 PM |
| 3 | "For the under-40s, women have won their battle. It's young men we need to worry about... We’re looking at a new inequality being incubated, because male horizons are narrowing."their brains typically mature at a younger age When we declare some traits (and the brains capable and willing to do them) as "mature", that is not a value-free judgment. And it should be a key point for men in the gender debates that the decision of what to value as mature lies mostly in women's hands. Your teacher is likely a woman. Your mom likely has more influence than your dad on your upbringing. You didn't pick up this idea that girls' brains are better independent of them. | /r/MensRights | 24/10/13 09:53 AM |
| 3 | In advance of the ABC story about Anita Sarkeesian receiving anonymous threats online, I just wanted to remind everyone that she posted a murder-fantasy where she kills videogame designer Randy Pitchford by shooting him three timesHowever why do idiot fucks troll her online? Because there are a lot of people online. Usually, that's enough. When you draw well-deserved negative attention from 10000-100000 people, you're going to have a bad time get some idiots overreacting. But in Anita Sarkeesian's case, it looks like it was a bit more deliberate. Her videos were spammed to 4chan by a user who was most likely her or someone close to her (it used a picture of her which was not used publicly on the internet before as far as … | /r/MensRights | 18/10/13 08:14 AM |
| 3 | Math blogger Mark CC on sexual harassment of womenI posted this comment. Mark CC is all too open about the epiphany-like character of his conversion to feminism, so I don't have big hopes it will get past moderation. Posting it here so it wasn't entirely wasted. "Lots of people legitimately worry about it, because they've heard so much about this in the media, in politics, in news. The thing is, the reason that you hear all of this is because of people who are deliberately promoting it as part of a socio-political agenda." So, you are claiming … | /r/MensRights | 17/10/13 08:31 AM |
| 3 | Oh the irony (xpost from r/funny)It's more than a beauty fantasy. It's a princess fantasy. Typhonblue has written at length about it, but Bob Dylan's description of a case is also appealing: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/it-aint-me-babe | /r/MensRights | 17/10/13 07:02 AM |
| 1 | The Newly Appointed, First Female Archbishop of the Church of Sweden, Antje Jackelén, Thinks Circumcising Infant Boys is Groovy ("we must show respect [for circumcision]")Don't know where you get it that the Nordic League is some sort of federal government for Scandinavia. There are a lot of things we disagree on that have far larger effects on each other as countries than circumcision (e.g. alcohol taxes). | /r/MensRights | 17/10/13 05:46 AM |
| 3 | The Newly Appointed, First Female Archbishop of the Church of Sweden, Antje Jackelén, Thinks Circumcising Infant Boys is Groovy ("we must show respect [for circumcision]")It's nice if they agree, of course. But yes, they can clearly pass a law banning it even without it. In my opinion, there should't even have to be a law. Existing law is hopefully broadly enough specified that medically unnecessary surgery on children is malpractice and child abuse. Circumcision would need an excemption to be legal, not a new law to be illegal. | /r/MensRights | 16/10/13 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Infographic on how boys do in education [x-post from r/teachers]This whole "girls are more mature" thing is also for a huge part a value judgement. It's mostly women who define what constitutes proper mature behavior in our society - and wield the weapon of shame to enforce it. Do teenager hormones make you wise? Does bladder control imply that you are smart? So I advise against buying into these things, also where they favor boys (e.g. that 8-year old boy = 12-year old girl in math). We know damn little about how girls and boys "really" are, at best we know… | /r/MensRights | 09/10/13 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Woman is jailed for just 16 months for organising gang beating of innocent man who was wrongly named as a paedophile on vigilante website. "I jumped on his head myself!"All I'm saying is that the infant mortality itself isn't the primary cause of the large family sizes. What determines it is rather this: Do you become richer or poorer from having many kids? In the west, you clearly become poorer. In poor countries you relatively speaking become only a little poorer, with a shot at becoming richer (if you're lucky and your kids can support you somehow). | /r/MensRights | 08/10/13 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Woman is jailed for just 16 months for organising gang beating of innocent man who was wrongly named as a paedophile on vigilante website. "I jumped on his head myself!"Family sizes used to be huge by present-day standards, because mortality was so high. Nitpick: Mortality was (and is) high with hunter-foragers too, yet they have small family sizes. One important reason farmers would get large families was that even quite small children can be set to work on a farm - additional hands helped them far more, and was even necessary. For foragers, more people (and more kids in particular) just got in the way. | /r/MensRights | 08/10/13 10:49 AM |
| 3 | European group to vote on whether to call circumcision ‘human rights violation’That's bad enough, but there's a distinction between actively harming your kids and passively not giving them treatment. | /r/MensRights | 03/10/13 07:06 PM |
| 3 | [Serious] Help me see Men's Rights not as middle/upper class people complaining about first world problemsfrankly, people bitching about stupid things. Maybe it seems stupid to you. Pray that it stays that way. If you have a trusted male friend who's gone through a bad divorce, try getting to know him better. I'm sure you might be surprised. I have yet to come across a man who is genuinely harmed by the removal of his foreskin as an infant. Do your friends regularly share with you their intimate feelings about their penis? If someone were unhappy about it, would you know? I have yet to see men being… | /r/MensRights | 02/10/13 12:40 PM |
| 2 | "Men's Centres Badly Needed In Canada, Advocates Say". What are the majority of comments? "Man up"Rather, you have no value. Your problems might have value if someone else had them. | /r/MensRights | 30/09/13 12:10 PM |
| 2 | [Discussion] GLaDOS: Covert abuse, female aggression and manipulation.Yeah, I've thought about it too. It was far more radical to have a "female" (it's a computer, after all) antagonist in this game, than to have a silent female protagonist. But somehow I doubt the Sarkeesians of the world would see it that way. | /r/MensRights | 16/09/13 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Anita Sarkeesian exposed as the fraud she is.I wish there was a wiki/summary blog post rather than a youtube video documenting this. Is there? | /r/MensRights | 16/09/13 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Mom and former mayor outraged to learn she's banned from her daughter's graduation after being convicted of groping a 14 year-old boy. Bonus: She shifts the blame to the boy...and this angling: "began telling friends that the woman gave him oral sex." | /r/MensRights | 16/09/13 08:53 AM |
| 3 | Offsite MensRightsKickstarter projects have to be about something more than setting up a website. Also, expect the factors that made the Kickstarter admins see through the fingers with this project blatantly breaking several rules, will probably work the other way for anything MR-related. | /r/MensRights | 16/09/13 08:51 AM |
| 3 | Great analogy for the relationship between MRM and Feminism (Long read)Well, don't forget how that story ended. In the beginning, Martin Luther was inspired by humanists like Erasmus of Rotterdam, He defended freedom of conscience. He felt confident that if only people got to read the bible on their own, they would come around to his perspective. He was sympathetic to the Jews, saying that it's no surprise they rejected the gospel the way they were treated. But then stuff happened. He was persecuted, and was protected by noblemen with very different values from wha… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/13 10:02 AM |
| 2 | Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill -- Comments discuss Legal Paternal Surrender and equal male reproductive rightsPatronizing tones won't help you here. That's OK, because I'm not the one needing help. You are. But as I said, if you're just looking for someone to loathe more than yourself (like Hugo Schwyzer eventually admitted to and apologized for), even that's OK for now. Looks like you're pretty close to realizing some things. If I can't help you hopefully someone else can. I don't "loathe" myself. I never said I did. I hated that and myself for quite a while before giving in and basically thinking gues… | /r/MensRights | 12/09/13 09:05 AM |
| 2 | Man tricks pregnant girlfriend into taking abortion pill -- Comments discuss Legal Paternal Surrender and equal male reproductive rightsJust because I don't like to sexually objectify everyone I meet Yet you can do that, or at least something you think of as that, without wanting to. Why? What makes you do that, if not your sexuality? There's nothing wrong with you, son. Just because you suddenly noticed someone from the sexual perspective, doesn't mean you stopped noticing them from all the other ones. But it is very sad that you should loathe yourself for it. Well well, r/mensights is here. Whether you want to stop loathing yo… | /r/MensRights | 11/09/13 05:33 PM |
| 1 | "misogyny" is "hatred of women". It is not misogyny to tell a sexist joke, or to fail to take a woman seriously, or to enjoy boobies.mis- stuff and other badisms are usually used about hatred or contempt for a particular group. Sexist jokes and dismissal of opinions may or may not be a product of contempt, from case to case. | /r/MensRights | 11/09/13 10:27 AM |
| 1 | "Leftist" discuss what to do about that growing pesky mens rights movementNow, I'm not going to dig though anyone's comment history, but is it possible that guy is a troll? I don't know any "leftists" who describe themselves as such. | /r/MensRights | 10/09/13 09:52 AM |
| 2 | Son came home with this...The only place on earth that had enough sustenance to not require an agrarian society and technology was the Florida Everglades. First of all, that makes no sense. An agrarian society is never "required", foragers can live just about anywhere. The fertility of the land only limits how many of them there can be per square kilometer. Yes, they are nomadic, but so? Second, as I recall there is evidence of sedentary non-agrarian tribes in Japan. The Florida Everglades isn't the most fertile place on… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/13 10:45 AM |
| 2 | Son came home with this...It is possible to approach these issues scientifically, although of course that's going to leave you with a lot of uncertainty still. No one is suggesting foraging societies haven't changed in 150000 years. Even today, there is a stunning diversity in foraging cultures. They have very little in common. It's a great go-to for political idealists, for whatever kind of society you can imagine, odds are you can find some foraging society (or a slightly more advanced one) where your "utopian" ideas a… | /r/MensRights | 06/09/13 09:58 AM |
| 5 | Son came home with this...You'd be absolutely right. As I recall, there are no foraging cultures where men don't participate in foraging, and usually the women hunt some game, too. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/13 09:25 AM |
| 1 | Son came home with this...At least it's a change, to see a godawful, misinformed ad-hominid argument from the other side for once. | /r/MensRights | 06/09/13 09:22 AM |
| 2 | Not really MR-related, but I thought you guys might enjoy the story of the "patriarch" behind Femen.Now, my impression has long been that Femen is more tragic phenomenon than villainous or heroic. But, this still sounds very strange to me. Recently, I've been following the Syria debate, and it's kind of relevant, bear with me. Twice there have been leaks of mails published after hacks: First, there was a mail dump from defense contractor Britam, with one very incriminating mail suggesting that they planned to stage a false flag chemical weapon attack in Syria. Second, a mail dump from the priv… | /r/MensRights | 04/09/13 01:53 PM |
| 2 | Norway introduces gender neutral conscription as first country in the worldNKF is not the only feminist organization in Norway. I don't think it's even very large. It's technically a first-wave feminist organization. | /r/MensRights | 14/06/13 10:08 PM |
| 2 | Interesting blog post re: why women in progressive Seattle are frustrated that men are too "timid" to ask them out.Can that be true? It's not extreme, anyway: http://www.maletofemaleratio.com/wiki/washington-wa/seattle.htm | /r/MensRights | 14/06/13 07:11 AM |
| 3 | There is no “forced fatherhood” crisisSingle mothers are more likely to be poor because the entry fee into single fatherhood for a man is usually set at 10,000-25,000$. I'm not sure I get what you're saying here. Are you thinking of court costs? | /r/MensRights | 14/06/13 06:56 AM |
| 1 | After 8 long years from a bitter divorce and custody battle, I'm a very proud father with full legal custody of my daughter. (x-post from pics)He has full custody. Hopefully he didn't have no contact before. | /r/MensRights | 13/06/13 12:28 PM |
| 1 | Women outrank men on almost all measures of quality of life in almost all developed countriesShouldn't you first raise awareness in yourself about why things are the way they are? Take the campaigns you mention. HIV prevention campaigns, for instance. Why do people (in target demographics) have unprotected sex? Is it lack of knowledge? Is it a cultural stigma against condom use? If so, where does that stigma come from? If the underlying problem is simply lack of knowledge, or "awareness", easy! But for HIV today in the west, that's certainly not the full story. Probably not for drunk dr… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/13 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Women outrank men on almost all measures of quality of life in almost all developed countriesIt's worth stopping to think. You're assuming men are just doing something stupid, something that doesn't make sense, they should stop it. That is a possibility. Another possibility is that there are underlying reasons men behave the way they do, and changing the behaviour without changing the underlying factors will just make men more miserable. If it seems there's such a simple solution to the problem, maybe you're missing something like that. Sorry for not jumping on an advocacy effort just b… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/13 07:49 PM |
| 1 | Women outrank men on almost all measures of quality of life in almost all developed countriesSure, there are lots of things we can do. But maybe sometimes it's better to treat the underlying problem than the symptoms. If there is an underlying reason, if men are in fact behaving reasonably when they take risks, then just changing the behaviour will just give men other problems. Say, if it turned out that men worrying about their health are more often seen as hypochondriacs and get little sympathy/more scorn? I have no evidence, but it's within the realm of plausibility. Then getting men… | /r/MensRights | 07/06/13 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Wherein feminist RationalWiki editors try to put "patriarchy denialism" in the same category as "climate denialism" and dismiss arguments with "incredibly stupid, and something about "unscientific.""In some areas, this does happen. Not often. And there's certainly plenty of room to be misguided and crazy without being a denialist. But with for instance the health effects of tobacco, there's plenty of evidence that at one point, tobacco industry lobbyists publicly held positions they knew to be false. | /r/MensRights | 06/06/13 10:09 AM |
| 3 | Please don't feed the (Manhood Academy) trolls.No you didn't, you are the manhood academy spammer. Kloo tried when you first showed up, he was banned. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 08:28 AM |
| 3 | Please don't feed the (Manhood Academy) trolls.Because you don't "debate" spammers, redditor for 4 hours. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 08:27 AM |
| 3 | Please don't feed the (Manhood Academy) trolls.Oh look, this account is aged. But he forgot to delete his Manhood Academy spam from a Neill Strauss AMA. | /r/MensRights | 05/06/13 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Money Porn: The Objectification of Men (not a perfect article, but it's interesting)It's a thought experiment about consciousness, really. It was in response to your comment about being a body. But no one said it was impossible to treat someone like a person/a subject in their own right just because you like their body. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/13 03:52 PM |
| 1 | Money Porn: The Objectification of Men (not a perfect article, but it's interesting)There's a letter from a Chinese room waiting in your mailbox. Even if you want to quibble about the philosophical concept of consciousness, that doesn't really matter. In practice, there's a difference between treating someone as a person and treating them as an(y other non-person) object, so you understand what she's saying. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/13 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Money Porn: The Objectification of Men (not a perfect article, but it's interesting)No, she doesn't. Despite the comparisons between men and women's objectification, nowhere does she suggest women have it worse. The only place you could possibly see a victim narrative, is in the "I don't say men are disadvantaged to the same degree" sentence, but even there, she doesn't say men aren't - only that this is not the point she is trying to make. Which is understandable. Even if you think women have it worse, that shouldn't be used as an excuse to dismiss these concerns. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/13 12:10 PM |
| 2 | Money Porn: The Objectification of Men (not a perfect article, but it's interesting)She doesn't say men aren't either. I see this as a "now don't dismiss me out of hand" gesture - probably necessary, unfortunately. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/13 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do Universities in the United States deal with Rape Accusations?I think a lot of it has to do with housing. Americans usually live on campus while studying, right? Maybe it's a sort of boarding school spirit, that what their students are doing is their responsibility, reflects on them, if it's bad then maybe people won't send their children there, etc. I'm not sure how that works in the UK, actually. Kind of embarrassing, I probably should. But here in Norway, anyway, students don't live on campus. The closest thing would be student association subsidized ho… | /r/MensRights | 04/06/13 10:10 AM |
| 2 | Ignorant academics who think their opinion of this subreddit is relevant or important make me chuckleWannabee academic, I'd say. That's pretty amateurish. Making an assertion that r/mensrights is conspiratorial because kloo described himself as such, then right after it repeating the same assertion coming from SLPC/Goldwag. Independent of the content, that's an amateurish way to write. | /r/MensRights | 04/06/13 08:27 AM |
| 1 | Feminists fight the legalization of Sex work in BC. Their proposed laws would criminalize men, and not help sex workers.Protestant groups yes, Catholic groups no. Women's groups at the time have very little with modern-day feminists to do, but yes, they were generally for it. If you were a woman wanting the vote you were a radical social reformer already, so you would naturally feel affinity with other social reforms like sanitation and eugenics (which Sanger was famously for). | /r/MensRights | 31/05/13 04:45 PM |
| 1 | I'm pretty sure /r/twoxchromosomes "shadow deleted" a polite reasonable post of mineProbably abuse of the report button. I believe if enough accounts click on report, posts get auto-hidden even without mod/admin intervention. | /r/MensRights | 31/05/13 08:25 AM |
| 3 | The infographic about women purchasing power - which shows the reverse of the glass ceilingWhen I think about it, this is my experience too. On closer examination, it's not crazy to think women make 68% of new car purchase decisions (though I'd still like to see the source!). | /r/MensRights | 31/05/13 07:36 AM |
| 3 | Motion to Condemn MRA groups because MRA groups condemn feminism as violent. (PDF) see p.17, first entry.Your theory on the Frankfurt school (and "cultural Marxism", am I right?) is an old conspiracy theory from a Lyndon LaRouche publication which has gained traction in recent years thanks to Glenn Beck and the s.c. contrajihadists online. (ABB was a big believer in this theory). There is a Marxist version of feminism, which is quite old, and is largely unacknowledged. The Soviet Union was the first modern state to legalize abortion, for instance. The Marxist feminists have certainly had an influen… | /r/MensRights | 31/05/13 06:01 AM |
| 1 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleWho says the black man didn't do it? It would still be profiling. Profiling means more actually guilty black men are arrested, and more actually guilty white men (not to speak of women) go free. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 05:29 PM |
| 1 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleSure, evidence is a factor. Just not the only one. I can't see you have much statistics at all. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 05:28 PM |
| 1 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleWhat's there to say? Do you think judges and juries have little discretion, that it is just a mechanical process with very little room for unconscious bias to show up? It just isn't so. You can give cases with randomized race/gender/other characteristics to law students (and even to lawyers and judges, if you can manage it), and you will see systematic differences which simply shouldn't be there if those characteristics were irrelevant. Even though the law students aren't conscious of it at all,… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 03:02 PM |
| 2 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleThere was a break in. Black man was observed walking nearby. OK, find us that black man. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 02:56 PM |
| 1 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleDo you have a theory why little black girls are so uninteresting for kidnappers? Or little boys? (It doesn't seem to make much difference to pedophiles). If you haven't - and I haven't - then I think maybe a bias in the data gathering is a possibility. Maybe there's a bias in the way such kidnappings are reported or classified. Or maybe there's a bias in which cases get solved (they would have to be solved in order to get stats on the abductor's gender and sexual assault which you present above)… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 01:30 PM |
| 2 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleYeah, I agree. You know what the biggest absurdity is? If, against all odds, group X were proven to be more inclined to crime - whether through genes or environment - that would be a cause for more sympathy, more assistance towards that group. Not less. Because objectively, they would then need more help to stay on the narrow path, through no fault of their own. It's deeply paradoxical to say that some group is inherently bad, and use that an excuse to treat them worse. Whether it's an ethnicity… | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 01:24 PM |
| 2 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articlethere's no way it could skew a 5-10 point difference in crime convictions I don't see why you would find this so unlikely. Such a degree of bias I wouldn't find at all extreme, even for cases that made it to court. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 01:19 PM |
| 1 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleYou can definitively profile for that sort of crime. Obviously for theft, but even assault. | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 01:17 PM |
| 1 | "We're obsessed when it's white women in trouble" - CNN opinion articleCan you really say that for sure? Or can you just say that they are caught/sentenced for more crimes? | /r/MensRights | 29/05/13 01:15 PM |
| 3 | Being a man is playing life on easy modeOh? When did we decide that, and why? Because we are big evil meanies? I mean, what the hell do WE get out of it? I'll give you a hint: Women aren't exactly lining up to be soldiers or have similar expendable roles. On the other hand, through child rearing and shaming, they have a big part - the main part - in defining gender roles for both men and women. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/13 05:00 PM |
| 1 | America's $100m-a-year gender selection industry revealed.Of course he will have a wife. Our son will. Our son will be successful in this area of life as all others. It is others' sons that will fail. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/13 07:07 AM |
| 1 | Feminist has children, turns down top job because it "would have meant 60-plus hour workweeks." She then decides it is "industry's responsibility to change the definition of leadership jobs so that woSo? If that somehow changed, it would mean men could have "it all" without sacrificing "it all" too. People got to wake up to the fact that people who sacrifice everything for a career, men or women, are not making a healthy choice, and usually not getting a good deal, no matter how sweet it may appear on the top. | /r/MensRights | 28/05/13 06:26 AM |
| 2 | Arias Jury Foreman; "We could NOT kill her because she's a woman"Would. Not should. | /r/MensRights | 27/05/13 06:42 AM |
| 2 | "Feministe" article compares fat shaming with Orwell's book "1984." I point out that acording to feminist theory, fat people cannot be victims of discrimination because congress is fatter (26lbs) andI'm saying your definition is neither the conventional one, not inherently correct because definitions are - by definition, ha - neither right or wrong. But you're also baking in some pretty shallow understanding of gender roles in your novel definition. Male risk-taking varies widely across societies. While sure, there may be a biological component, that does not explain the variation. But there is something else which does, something simple and neglected. Here's a little riddle: Imagine you wa… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 04:46 PM |
| 2 | "Feministe" article compares fat shaming with Orwell's book "1984." I point out that acording to feminist theory, fat people cannot be victims of discrimination because congress is fatter (26lbs) andThat is not a "correct" definition. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 01:57 PM |
| 2 | "Feministe" article compares fat shaming with Orwell's book "1984." I point out that acording to feminist theory, fat people cannot be victims of discrimination because congress is fatter (26lbs) andSorry, It will be harder than that. There's no question that in many cases, you benefit from people resembling you, no one disputes that. The question is which dimensions of resemblance matter, for the outcomes that matter. In general, you're going to benefit a lot more from resemblance if that resemblance is tied to class consciousness - that you identify with the people who are like you as a group. Men have very little class consciousness. Women have a little more - though not nearly as much a… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 01:47 PM |
| 1 | "Feministe" article compares fat shaming with Orwell's book "1984." I point out that acording to feminist theory, fat people cannot be victims of discrimination because congress is fatter (26lbs) andBut still the senate is fatter than average? Maybe because they're also older than average and male-er than average? Or maybe they just haven't caught up... | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 01:42 PM |
| 2 | "Feministe" article compares fat shaming with Orwell's book "1984." I point out that acording to feminist theory, fat people cannot be victims of discrimination because congress is fatter (26lbs) andCooking takes time and cognitive surplus which poor people rarely have. FTFY. | /r/MensRights | 24/05/13 01:39 PM |
| 1 | Marrying an American man for citizenship and cash... wait, that's not the title.Men are attracted to exotic women. People are attracted to exotic people. But it's not that easy, unfortunately. Take a look at OKCupid's statistics. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/13 01:02 PM |
| 2 | Marrying an American man for citizenship and cash... wait, that's not the title.Its an option most men are afraid to explore because of the social stigma This I agree with, and it's important. I suppose it sucks for the foreigners, because it means they can only pick between candidates that don't have much to lose in terms of social status, or for some other reason don't give a damn about social stigma. But I don't know about the "wise tactic". You've got to respect cultural differences, got to respect that you will totally lack many common reference points, may have comple… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/13 12:55 PM |
| 3 | The Norwegian State found guilty in Norwegian court of breaking anti-discrimination laws when promoting female military officerThat's too simple. The feminism of Norway is not exactly the same as the feminism of, say Germany. There are cultural differences by country, different writers have different influence, and each country has its own "local heroes" influencing the character of the movement. In the anglosphere, English-speaking feminists have a disproportionate influence - understandably enough. Unfortunately for you, there were a lot of really crazy English-speaking (or rather writing) feminists a couple of years … | /r/MensRights | 10/05/13 06:20 AM |
| 3 | Female Teachers Give Male Pupils Lower Marks, Claims Studyknow where It took me a time to parse that. But you're wrong, the study does look at the actual results pupils get, not just their expectations. Your proposed study is certainly a good idea, but not perfect. Essays (especially primary school essays) typically reveal whether a boy or a girl wrote them, by handwriting, writing style etc. If boys can get good grades by writing essays exactly as girls do, that does not necessarily rule out discrimination. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/13 08:09 AM |
| 1 | Video clip on mobile phone clears two men found guilty of raping two women in Sweden.I can read Swedish, I can attest it was not. | /r/MensRights | 07/05/13 06:48 AM |
| 1 | An Argument of Semantics: What does feminism mean to you?No, you are right, she's more of a general purpose contrarian in the big picture. Relatively to academics of her own kind, though, she is. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/13 05:57 AM |
| 2 | An Argument of Semantics: What does feminism mean to you?Farrell does not identify as a feminist any longer (but not as an MRA either). I think the reason Hoff Sommers and Paglia still do despite their dissent is that they're politically on the right, and want to stake a claim to a word that is positively charged in many people's minds. That is perfectly legitimate in my eyes, although I'm not all that close to them politically. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/13 07:37 AM |
| 3 | Karen Straughan (GirlWritesWhat) Presentation at the 2013 NY Libertarian ConventionI don't know if the libertarian party is exactly mainstream... but I'm wishing her good luck. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/13 07:32 AM |
| 1 | To Justicar, and in memory of Earl by Girlwriteswhat.It's not hopeless. It's uphill work, but you can win with evidence in the legal system, even when it's tilted against you - you just aren't guaranteed. But there's pretty little that's guaranteed in this world - death and taxes, wasn't that it? Sometimes doing everything you can will not be enough. Sometimes the good guys lose. Still, you got to live in it, and fighting with evidence is the best option if you're going to fight at all. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/13 07:09 AM |
| 2 | "I know at least 5 men in my life right now that are taking dangerous drugs to help them build bigger muscles…… but I don’t know anyone in my life that would equate this clear self-harm with body imagI think the focus on body image is a bit of a side track, because body image issues for men IS less of an issue for men than for women. Yes, we can focus on our appearance if we wish, and we can certainly get unhealthy about it - but on the whole, it's the pressure for economic and social success which is men's problem. If you act as if men's problem's are a mirror image of women's - men get anorexia too! men get breast cancer too! - it's true, both happens, but if you look only at that you woul… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/13 08:58 AM |
| 3 | Girl, 14, forced to become pregnant with donor sperm bought by mother; motive of using daughter to provide parent with a fourth child; sentenced to 5 yearsShe was even allowed to home-school her children despite having no inspection or oversight. I understand the UK is pretty liberal with home schooling, or home education as they call it. As long as you notify the school, and "provide a full-time education", you don't have to follow set curriculums or do any tests or such. It's up to municipal authorities' discretion to check that you are really educating your child. | /r/MensRights | 29/04/13 10:15 AM |
| 1 | Radicals move the overton window by deliberately promoting ideas even less acceptable than the previous "outer fringe" ideas, with the intention of making the current fringe ideas acceptable by comparIf you think "what could possibly go wrong"? with this moving the overton window business, think Michele Bachmann. Tea Party challengers is a pretty benign example of what could go wrong, actually. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 01:06 PM |
| 1 | Swedish man gets his face destroyed by a plate thrown by his (ex?) girlfriend; police ignores it.We call those "blue laws" in my state. We have them, but they are less restrictive. Many Norwegians on the right are convinced that Norway is uniquely uptight in areas like this, but truth is there are states and counties in the US and Canada which are much more restrictive. The racist speech laws in Norway are also classed under "breaches against order and peace". They're controversial, very few people have been indicted by them (last one I know about was a guy in 1997 who demanded sterilizatio… | /r/MensRights | 25/04/13 06:58 AM |
| 2 | #RadFem2013 Kicked Out of London Irish Centre. "We did some research into RadFem and discovered certain language was used and some statements were made about transgender people that would go against o"From what I've seen" - convenient. Since I don't have access to your eyes, I can't check that. But r/mensrights founder and self-proclaimed conspiracy theorist kloo2yoo asserted that the group was for anyone who "has, had or desires to have a penis". One of the moderators is transsexual. In addition to being important in its own right, transphobia is specifically a MR issue when it's motivated by hatred of men (and radfem's desire to exclude former men certainly is). | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 08:01 AM |
| 2 | #RadFem2013 Kicked Out of London Irish Centre. "We did some research into RadFem and discovered certain language was used and some statements were made about transgender people that would go against oAnyone have a link to these leaflets? | /r/MensRights | 24/04/13 07:47 AM |
| 1 | How to Stop Rape - TyphonblueDoesn't matter if it's a kid or not; the relationship between prison inmates and staff is so full of dependence and dominance that there can hardly be meaningful consent - same reason it's wrong for psychologists to have sex with their patients. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/13 08:34 AM |
| 3 | You think boys have it bad now? Check out some old Dear Abby columnsI just don't want to see other guys naked. But you don't know why? It's OK, like the kid in your article, you shouldn't have to justify yourself or anything. But it would maybe be worth thinking critically about. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 07:46 AM |
| 1 | You think boys have it bad now? Check out some old Dear Abby columnsLike in the Kibbutz when women reinstalled modesty and "traditionalism" Do you know of any good books or articles on this topic? I'd never heard of it, sounds interesting. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 07:42 AM |
| 2 | You think boys have it bad now? Check out some old Dear Abby columnsThis is a terrific article. I love it when people with actual sensible perspectives look at old gender norms (as opposed to university feminists doing it). Just yesterday I read a similar article about dating advice from the early 20th century. Some shocking (and shockingly bad, even then probably) advice to the men naturally, but he followed up with the equivalent advice to women, which was no better. To quote: No matter how cynical today's pick up literature is accused of being, at least it sa… | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 07:41 AM |
| 2 | Feminist demands "increase the number of women in the construction industry!" Unable to find picture of women doing dangerous construciton work, she photoshops 11 women in place of 11 men having lunchbut that they give information about how women like to be represented to themselves That's an unwarranted assumption. What such shows show is a glamorized ideal, how (many) women would like to live, not how they think they live. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/13 07:00 AM |
| 1 | What a week - CAFE, AVfM, NCFM, media coverage, more feminists abusing and disrespecting us on camera, mens groups on campus ...Dalits. Chattel slaves. I've made the point many times that oppression of women is quite unlike racism or economic oppression, because rich people don't get half their children born poor, and black people aren't hard wired to seek affection from white people. But that goes for men's oppression too. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 06:09 PM |
| 1 | What a week - CAFE, AVfM, NCFM, media coverage, more feminists abusing and disrespecting us on camera, mens groups on campus ...It can get much, much more second class. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 04:50 PM |
| 1 | What a week - CAFE, AVfM, NCFM, media coverage, more feminists abusing and disrespecting us on camera, mens groups on campus ...This isn't accurate. Early 20th century US was not ancient Greece, where political power was legally tied up with how much you could contribute to the military (nobles served with horses, middle class as footmen, lower class as rowers). Nor was it Starship Troopers. The two classes of citizens existed before and after. Although one class gained power and one didn't, saying one of them therefore became "the underclass" is an insult against those really oppressed by class. Women and men still need… | /r/MensRights | 07/04/13 11:32 AM |
| 1 | Feminists planning another protest of an MRA speaker in Toronto. Anyone living in the area with free time tonight to film it?Oh, that's not necessarily a problem. If, for instance, people are willing to burn their field rather than let you take their grain, they don't need much in the way of police to discourage you. The societies that have existed that could be called anarchistic have been marked by a significant number of its members being that fanatically unwilling to be coerced. Of course, it's still not very stable, as it's tempting for such people to get active about their fanaticism. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 12:48 PM |
| 1 | Feminists planning another protest of an MRA speaker in Toronto. Anyone living in the area with free time tonight to film it?Wow, are you? I thought you had been banned enough times by now. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 12:43 PM |
| 2 | study: breakdown of traditional family has a negative impact on boys' economic well-beings; girls do just fine with single-parent householdsI'm not sure I trust this report... I am aware that fatherlessness is connected to higher rates of teen pregnancy at the very least, and it would be surprising if fatherless girls did "just fine" in every other way too. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 12:40 PM |
| 1 | Men closing gender life expectancy gap is "troubling trend", according to National Geographic.The funny thing is that their life expectancy still rose On average, that's true. But averaging in this case conceals rather interesting and arguably important differences. In almost half of the US counties surveyed, women's mortality did increase - and this was mostly in poor, southern counties. So it's not just the case that everyone gets more, but some get more than others. A distinct segment of the female population are really declining in health and life expectancy, and it's legitimate to b… | /r/MensRights | 05/04/13 11:21 AM |
| 1 | On the sponsored link to a "men are better than women" troll article"master troll"? Give me a break. | /r/MensRights | 04/04/13 06:59 AM |
| 3 | Opinion article in my school paper arguing that all women are unsafe because men are "incapable of rational thinking and unable to control their sexual desire." Please help me refute this (factually)This is because society teaching people not to commit certain acts is ineffectual for a certain part of the population. We call these people "violent criminals" and trying to reason with them is generally a poor idea. It turns out that saying "rape is bad" to someone who doesn't care about your ideas on morality is a waste of time. This reasoning of yours is worth addressing. In reality, there isn't this clear divide that you suggest. For just about all crimes, there's a sliding scale between pe… | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 12:31 PM |
| 3 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison.Sometimes you are eminently quotable, ENTP. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison.Oh. I'm disappointed. In my experience, that means the odds of making him see the obvious on this are very slim. Men who buy into it this much... | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Feminist says "man flu" (a term used to mock males who admit symptoms) is actually misogyny, because women (who are allowed to have symptoms) look weak by comparison.Tracing the origin of this pejorative idea would be a worthwhile pursuit, because it flies in the face of all statistics I'm familiar with. | /r/MensRights | 03/04/13 07:59 AM |
| 2 | I'm thinking about kickstarting a project. I Need input from MRAs and Canadian fathers in particular.Any previous book projects? It sounds reasonable, but right now there are a lot of people who think they can make a quick buck at kickstarter, so we've got to stay somewhat critical. Also, consider putting it out under an open license (possibly giving backers prior access). Open-licensed stuff is one of the few things Kickstarter won't consider a charity, and the book is going to end up with more people who need it that way. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/13 08:30 AM |
| 2 | 9-Year-Old's $20,000 Kickstarter Campaign Draws Scam AccusationsThey're going to become more radicalized by this. It's the old scientology trick: once people have invested actual money in it, they loathe to admit it wasn't worth it. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/13 08:24 AM |
| 1 | Millionaire Using Kickstarter to Send Her Daughter to Programming Camp (Exploiting Current Gender Issues)That is not a way out. In fact it can get you in trouble with Kickstarter, because they forbid charitable projects. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/13 01:10 PM |
| 3 | Dilbert on DonglesLook at it this way: you're a hunter-gatherer in a cave with your wife and kids. Hunter-gatherers live in bands of 10 to 50 people. They know how to keep wild animals at bay. They are forcefully egalitarian, they have elaborate social rituals to prevent one member from taking credit for something big (such as killing a tiger). They do not tolerate anything remotely resembling an "alpha" (remember that story about chimpanzees banding together killing their alpha? Unlike chimpanzees, humans have l… | /r/MensRights | 23/03/13 09:44 AM |
| 2 | Men with depressionOne of the biggest misconceptions about mental illness is that people often don't realize that it's caused by physical abnormalities in the brain. Well yes, all our mental processes are about physical processes in our brains. Depression can be a product of primarily biological factors (especially the highly swingy types). But it can also be a product of physical factors (such as lack of daylight - considerable issue where I come from) or social factors (extended isolation, prolonged abuse, expec… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 11:31 AM |
| 3 | Is radical feminism worse in Canada?That is a truth with modifications. Some things are much better in Sweden - for instance, alimony will virtually never be awarded, child support is reasonable and based on actual income rather than stipulated income potential. If you get shared custody (which you almost certainly will, although you'll still likely get less time with the kids as a dad), the other parent can't just move to the other side of the country without your consent. You will get generous parental leave. It's important to n… | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 10:57 AM |
| 2 | Sigh. "more women between the ages of 15 and 44 are killed by violence every year than by malaria, HIV, cancer, accidents and war combined." Nope. Not even close.Are these numbers between 15 and 44? Because I can imagine that a good chunks of death from cancer happen after 44, and I know that most deaths from malaria occur before 15. (AIDS should be smack in the middle, though, so it's not as if I think the statement is credible anyway). | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 08:42 AM |
| 2 | Reaction by PyCon to Adria Richards bullying incident"Non-confrontational" is not the word I would use. How about "Kafkaesque"? | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 08:37 AM |
| 2 | Reaction by PyCon to Adria Richards bullying incidentYeah, but people should resist the temptation to hiss and blow up at these people, foolish as they were. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/13 08:34 AM |
| 2 | UPDATE: Twitter lady who got developer fired by tweeting their pictures along with accusations of "sexism" or something suffering a DDoS attackOne was active in a Hacker news thread, and said so (along with profuse apologies, so probably not a troll). The other one was not fired. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 02:28 PM |
| 2 | UPDATE: Twitter lady who got developer fired by tweeting their pictures along with accusations of "sexism" or something suffering a DDoS attackNot by playing into their hands, that's for sure. But don't worry prematurely, I don't think this woman is half as cynical as Sarkeesian. Most people aren't. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 02:26 PM |
| 2 | UPDATE: Twitter lady who got developer fired by tweeting their pictures along with accusations of "sexism" or something suffering a DDoS attackShe's just denying that she's a feminist to try and minimize splash damage. Probably not. If she was business savvy like Anita Sarkeesian, she could make a fortune on the negative attention she gets now. I agree with David Byron: She's probably just an old-fashioned bully acting on impulse, working the way female bullies traditionally do (by sabotaging the victim socially). | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 02:25 PM |
| 3 | Woman at Pycon takes a picture of two guys after being horribly offended at them making a Dongle joke, and a pun about "forking" code in private conversation. Tweets their picture, they are removed frYeah. I've worked in programming companies where there was around a 50-50 gender ratio, and I've had at least two very competent female bosses. All these women would have told Adria to get a grip, at the very least in private. Unfortunately I've also had some male colleagues who have been white hyperknights, so I'm not surprised at Pycon or the one employer's official response. Women in IT aren't a problem. Insecure geeks desperate to win approval from women are - and the very few women who woul… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 12:33 PM |
| 1 | Woman at Pycon takes a picture of two guys after being horribly offended at them making a Dongle joke, and a pun about "forking" code in private conversation. Tweets their picture, they are removed frJokes like this are completely innocuous, distasteful, perhaps, but not offensive. If it is as it appears, The joke wasn't sexist. Joking about "big dongles" may be crude and childish, but it does not inherently offend women. (It may inherently offend prudes, I'll grant.) The joke wasn't directed at the woman in question, it was in a conversation between two men sitting on a row behind this woman. It's absurd. (Pity those two men weren't gays, then we could interpret her actions as homophobia. I… | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 12:16 PM |
| 3 | Woman at Pycon takes a picture of two guys after being horribly offended at them making a Dongle joke, and a pun about "forking" code in private conversation. Tweets their picture, they are removed frI really couldn't believe that. It's literally "think of the children!". How can it be possible to delude yourself into thinking you're deciding that girl's fate by going nuclear at someone in the row behind you who made a non-sexist crude joke? This person really, really wants to feel like the champion of all that is Good and Right and Holy, and in this profession there aren't many opportunities, I guess. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 12:04 PM |
| 2 | Woman at Pycon takes a picture of two guys after being horribly offended at them making a Dongle joke, and a pun about "forking" code in private conversation. Tweets their picture, they are removed frDon't go to pycon I think you should rather say. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/13 11:57 AM |
| 2 | A systematic destruction of feminist Anita Sarkeesian's false claims of misogyny in video game culture.The gamer community needs to learn a lesson here. Some people absolutely should. The lesson they should learn is not to get worked up when someone is trying to work you up for profit. I've tried for a while to figure out what exactly you think I'm advocating, but sorry, you're not very coherent. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 08:31 PM |
| 3 | How google celebrates women's day but not men'sLocation: Russia. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 08:01 AM |
| 3 | A systematic destruction of feminist Anita Sarkeesian's false claims of misogyny in video game culture.This is what it looked like: Yeah, but people's prejudices are a very important factor in determining what it looks like. What prejudice made it look like that? Exactly the prejudice to see a woman as a damsel in distress. And Sarkeesian knew that perfectly well. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 07:58 AM |
| 2 | In an article about gender bias in the criminal-justice system, Larissa MacFarquhar observed, “The message that emerges is clear: be a woman, act like a woman, and you may blithely strew your neighborThis is a point: both infantilization and simply one-sided exaltation may be explanations for what we see. Feminists only acknowledge the first, but there may still be quite a lot of discrimination left if we got rid of all infantilization. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/13 07:34 AM |
| 1 | While researching for a paper I stumbled upon Dr. Don Dutton who writes peer-reviewed scientific articles on domestic violence against men. Very insightful!Interesting, but ... <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0"> yikes. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/13 09:26 AM |
| 2 | Glass cellar vs Glass ceiling (85% of the worst rated jobs are held by men)You're joking, but in a society with low unemployment, these jobs can pay well, as they IMHO should. Back in my home town in Norway, boys who wanted to get rich quick didn't get MBAs. They got jobs on fishing boats instead. For slightly safer, less profitable and less manic lifestyles, they would get work as plumbers, electricians etc. By a conservative estimate, it would take 20 years for us nonvocational students to match their income. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/13 02:05 PM |
| 3 | An official at my college championed against men's rights as a legitimate issue. I need some help.Your first amendment rights allow you to advertise on campus. First, Canadian here. Not saying it's therefore legal for them to deny it, but you must argue from Canadian law. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 11:16 AM |
| 2 | Ryerson University Student Union asserts that "misandry doesn't exist" and smears egalitarian students trying to start a Men's Issues clubOuch, as if there weren't. enough reasons to be angry at university administration. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 08:18 AM |
| 1 | Ryerson University Student Union asserts that "misandry doesn't exist" and smears egalitarian students trying to start a Men's Issues clubThe ball has to start rolling somewhere. In this case it was the Warren Farrell seminar at UofT. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/13 08:16 AM |
| 1 | UofToronto Upcoming Event: What’s Wrong With Women’s Studies? Academic Feminism, Censorship & MenThe causality goes the other way, I think... If other universities had the MRA presence that UofT has, that would likely be where the demos were. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/13 02:36 PM |
| 3 | ...but that's not sexistIf there were more women than men in the population (as the sample size suggests), another possibility is that sons and daughters were just as useful for surviving when they lived, but sons died more often. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/13 09:37 AM |
| 1 | Human Rights Watch supports VAWA because "since Betty Friedan’s Feminine Mystique ... we have seen significant progress in how society views violence against women." Cites CDC survey that shows higheI've lost faith in HRW and Amnesty. In part degeneration into self-institutional preservation, but probably also infliltration. When did they last mention Wikileaks, Manning, John Kiriakou for instance? 2010? | /r/MensRights | 28/02/13 08:01 AM |
| 1 | Just a reminder that white males commit suicide at a massively disproportionate rate than other groups (e.g. Over 10x more than black women). Take care y'all, watch out for the warning signs of your fAmerican Indians, whites, blacks and hispanics are distinct and fairly culturally homogenous subgroups in the US. Asians really aren't, you get everything from Pakistanis and Filipinos (extremely low suicide rates) to Koreans and Chinese (extremely high). | /r/MensRights | 25/02/13 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Man raped up to eight times a day in prison for 19 months, infected with HIV: "At that point I didn’t give a damn, I was broken, I was broken physically, mentally, I had nothing left I had no spirit aTHIS IS THE REASON FOR THE PROTEST Another lie. The reason for the protest was the hatred some people on that campus have for SAVE, AvfM and MRAs generally. The 40 year old playboy interview was merely the best shit packet they could come up with. You knew "genitally" was a misquote, you know how misrepresented his research was by the protesters, yet you argue here as if you didn't know that. That is bad faith, and yes, I do not "logic" or "establish hypotheses" with bad faith actors. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/13 11:55 AM |
| 1 | Man raped up to eight times a day in prison for 19 months, infected with HIV: "At that point I didn’t give a damn, I was broken, I was broken physically, mentally, I had nothing left I had no spirit aYou know that "genitally caress" was Playboy's typo (quite possibly deliberately, it's Playboy we're talking about) for "gently". You know that “Either men see these relationships differently,” comments Farrell, “or I am getting selective reporting from women” was referring to the disparity between abused sons and abused daughters, not abused daughters and abusing fathers as Playboy wanted to suggest. You know that this was dug up by an extremist feminist group which has said very bad things the… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/13 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Man raped up to eight times a day in prison for 19 months, infected with HIV: "At that point I didn’t give a damn, I was broken, I was broken physically, mentally, I had nothing left I had no spirit aWarren Farrel conducted a study on incest in which he couldn't understand why victims of child abuse might not enjoy child abuse and suggested they might be lying. Bad faith alert. Anyone who can claim something so ridiculous is either a troll acting in bad faith, or hopelessly lost in some online feminist echo-chamber. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/13 10:23 AM |
| 1 | A Possible Epiphany About Victim-blamingVictim-blaming is actually a ubiquitous practice in our society - it's our default reaction to all adversities encountered by others. This, I agree with to some degree. Victim blaming is really, really common with all sorts of crimes. "You were an idiot to walk down that neighborhood. Forgot to lock the door? Well, then it's only to be expected. You could have avoided it if you didn't do these mistakes. Look at me, I'm avoiding it, I'm in control of what happens to me." (Victim blaming is almost… | /r/MensRights | 21/02/13 03:46 PM |
| 3 | This Spanish poster reads "When you mistreat a man, you stop being a woman. Zero tolerance for the abusive."Yeah, but it does show something important about gender roles. It sounds really absurd, doesn't it? Women obviously don't stop being women just because they behave badly (maybe they stop being "a lady" or some other classy qualification). It illustrates nicely what typhonblue argues for a lot. The positive attributes associated with "being a man" you have to perform to get, not so with "being a woman". | /r/MensRights | 21/02/13 07:59 AM |
| 2 | Women like Sophie Hooper make me ashamed of my gender. Perhaps it is time that the law took false rape allegations more seriously. This woman should have had a prison sentence to teach others that falTotally agreed. But shame and pride go together, and both must be rejected. | /r/MensRights | 20/02/13 08:45 AM |
| 1 | r/MensRights: why aren't we working together?I'm a feminist, but instead of thinking men are the problem (I don't know how many feminists really do anymore) Heh, we know of a couple. Look at the recent interview with Michael Moore. He isn't primarily a feminist, yet he has completely internalized the view that men are what's wrong with the world. The ideas of academic feminism, most importantly the idea of "the patriarchy", is a totally twisted lens to look at the world through. And as you can see from the Moore interview, it's trickled do… | /r/MensRights | 19/02/13 02:28 PM |
| 1 | So a Feminist basically just told me to become a MRA todaybut I'm not qualified to comment on it The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts. A lot of the "evo-psych" that gets thrown around in PUA and (sadly, even) MRA circles is so shallow that you don't really need to know much to see through it. In 99 out of 100 cases, they aren't biologists either. By saying you aren't qualified, you're already more qualified than them. Although you won't convince them - no mat… | /r/MensRights | 18/02/13 12:46 PM |
| 2 | Study says boys don't do as well in school because they're told soFrom a social psychology perspective: stereotype threat. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/13 09:39 AM |
| 2 | SOTU FACT CHECK: The White House's equal pay statsThis rules out a big pay gap, but not a small one. The market will not be perfectly efficient, especially not across different fields. Put plainly, employers have a margin to be slightly dumb. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/13 12:27 PM |
| 3 | France upholds the ban on paternity testsAnd women. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/13 12:03 PM |
| 3 | Atheist rips on Atheism+ cult and gives a shout-out to some examples of sexism against menAmerican women are apparently in a invisible burqa. Doesn't that sort of defeat the purpose of a burqa? | /r/MensRights | 12/02/13 08:41 AM |
| 3 | How Jezebel intentionally sells false outrage for fun and profitOn TrueReddit they love stories about the decay of discourse. Bear in mind Boing Boing is also very far from a men's rights blog, so there's no penalty from it coming from you (or here). They probably don't notice. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/13 08:19 AM |
| 1 | Corresponded with the author of the article on Modern vs Post Modern Discourse. Thought I would share his further insights.It's more an accident of history. You find many on the far left (e.g. Noam Chomsky) who criticize postmodernism. I think (mostly from reading Popper, I admit) that postmodernism isn't so much related to marxism, as it is to the hegelianism that it is based on. But lots and lots of thinking in arts and humanities is influenced by hegelianism independently of marxism. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/13 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Corresponded with the author of the article on Modern vs Post Modern Discourse. Thought I would share his further insights.They, the conspiracy theorists, yes. It started out in a Lyndon LaRouche publication. Please, don't buy into that crap. The Frankfurt school broke with marxist doctrine. Theodor Adorno may have inspired postmodernists, but he also inspired people like Karl Popper (another ex-marxist, but not one conspiracy theorists like to attack). There's a difference between admitting that language is influenced by power relationships, and thinking that power relationships is all there is to language. | /r/MensRights | 09/02/13 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Corresponded with the author of the article on Modern vs Post Modern Discourse. Thought I would share his further insights.in which one of the characters is a spy and at some point reveals that post-modernism was a Nazi (I think it was Nazis) plot to bring down western civilization. That one was new to me, but there is a well-known conspiracy theory that the "Frankfurt school" invented postmodernism in order to bring about the collapse of western civilization, so that a communist society might be built on the smoking ruins. Having a realistic idea of where ideas come from is too useful to leave to conspiracy theoris… | /r/MensRights | 09/02/13 07:05 PM |
| 2 | Small thing, but I feel I've done my part for the MRM today.... and the bill is C-279. Thanks, I googled about a bit. I think we do care. And although there was nothing wrong in posting it here, it's relevant to men's rights, I think the *trans reddits will be even more interested in it. Folks, what's the most sensible subreddit to crosspost this to, i.e. the least SRSy (LGB)T subreddit? r/ainbow? | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 01:14 PM |
| 2 | Small thing, but I feel I've done my part for the MRM today.No need to protect the organization pushing this bill. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 10:29 AM |
| 2 | Leftwing Domestic Terrorist Pleads Guilty in Family Research Council Shooting; Update: Corkins Used SPLC ‘Hate Map’Thing is, if one of the groups they label as a hate group would say: "We don't condone violence, this was the work of vigilantes we want nothing to do with", they would never accept that excuse. By their own measure, they're inspiring hatred. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 10:03 AM |
| 1 | So called "mens' rights movement"Another thing I mention that is I wager a factor here is that boys mature later than that of girls so its easier to appeal to an 17/18 year old girl who is dealing with boys her age not being as mature as her and she is getting pissed off from it. You shouldn't take a narrow, fairly arbitrary biological definition of maturity and assume it corresponds to the colloquial definition of maturity. If 18 year old girls scorn 18 year old boys and label their behavior "immature", that's not something th… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/13 09:22 AM |
| 2 | She's accusing me of rape.. What should I do? (Story inside)If you get drunk, you might do things you might not do otherwise. No one seems to want to accept that fact. On the contrary. This is precisely the reason people get drunk: so that they might do things they won't do otherwise, and won't take the full shame for it (because society holds you to a more lenient standard when drunk), nor the guilt (because they hold themselves to a more lenient standard too - "I'm not really like that, I was drunk"). Aside from indirectly from these learned effects, a… | /r/MensRights | 05/02/13 08:33 AM |
| 2 | Only nine states allow men to change their last name to their new wife's name when they get married.Also, it's worth it to show detractors that yes, we're serious about equality on these issues too. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/13 10:09 AM |
| 3 | Only nine states allow men to change their last name to their new wife's name when they get married.It's by no means necessary. In cultures where they use proper patronyms and matronyms, for instance, both spouses keep the appropriate names. Regardless of what the purpose of marriage is, the first and foremost purpose of last names is disambiguation. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/13 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Only nine states allow men to change their last name to their new wife's name when they get married.This is not just in western culture. It's common in patrilineal societies, including e.g. China. But it's also not universal in the west. Where I come from, if a man though marriage became heir to a farm, he would usually take the name of the farm (and his wife) as his last name - especially if he came from a poorer family. In general, a woman who had the misfortune(?) of marrying down would have greater chances of keeping her last name, in full or hyphenated form. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/13 09:59 AM |
| 3 | If this read "women" instead of "men" I'm sure people's reactions would have been more negative than positive.But the image is illustrated from The Past, you know. When all women were terribly oppressed, and capitalists all wore top hats and had the right to sleep with any woman working in one of their factories. So that makes it OK. | /r/MensRights | 04/02/13 09:28 AM |
| 2 | It finally happened.No, he will not. Honestly, has someone hijacked typhonblue's account? This does not sound like you. This is not how it works. Long-term abuse seriously warps your perception. A DV victim is not receptive to admonishment when his previous indecision in a hopeless situation has lead him to a worse situation. Odds are, he already feels everything he does and has done is wrong, piling on will not help. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/13 11:53 AM |
| 3 | It finally happened.The cops aren't the only ones who need to treat a male DV victim right. Say he does press charges, what happens then? Will he have a place to live? Will he have the means to support himself, physically indisposed as he is? This is by no means certain. Could he pay a price, in the form of scorn and revenge? Quite possibly. The problem is the DV victim often can't evaluate these risks objectively. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/13 11:47 AM |
| 2 | It finally happened.It's not nearly as obvious as you would have it that this proactive reaction would have helped. Even if it was, learned helplessness. If you have been in a situation with no good options for too long, eventually you will lose the ability to see options, or believe in them. Even if better ones turn up. You talk a lot about hyperagency and hypoagency, and you're usually very insightful. But there are some times people, men and women, genuinely have little agency in their lives. People who are phys… | /r/MensRights | 30/01/13 11:42 AM |
| 1 | “There is some stunning female chauvinism with regards to how many women think of the forced genital wounding of males as a joke, while the forced genital wounding of females is a heinous crime,”you are not an ethics expert, Ethics doesn't work like that. You can't outsource questions of right and wrong. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/13 02:26 PM |
| 2 | My roommate's glorious Frank Zappa-esque response to the status of a "Second Wave" feminist.He's finally available on the streaming networks now, so I've taken the opportunity to listen to him again. Zappa is absolutely brilliant. Another reminder why we need prostate cancer research. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 10:31 AM |
| 1 | So, instead of making a comment on this and being downvoted to hell, I'll just ask... Anyone see anything wrong with this? Because this is the kind of stuff that drives me crazy.I thought this was satire, by the "are women obligated to do anything" box. | /r/MensRights | 24/01/13 09:42 AM |
| 3 | Gabrielle Toledano, executive vice president and chief talent officer of Electronic Arts, says that blaming sexism for the lack of women in the video game industry is a cop-out: "If we want more womenHow did they discourage you, and when was this? If it was EA, I'd say you might have dodged a bullet. They had to settle a class action lawsuit from overworked employees. | /r/MensRights | 23/01/13 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Woman complains that men aren't being sexist to her and are not bullying her. My mind is fucking blown.It's just that computers became cool after the chatter and gossip phenomenon finally arrived on the internet in the form of facebook. You weren't a teenager in the nineties, were you? By many measures, my secondary school classmates were ridiculously up to date on the latest tech. One jocky guy got his joke page as "Yahoo's pick of the day" and made a modest ad income on it. A computer logged into the currently trendy IRC channel was a must at any party, even if everyone was too drunk to type. B… | /r/MensRights | 23/01/13 02:30 PM |
| 3 | Dads afraid of taking the babysitter homeNot only. And saying that's the reason misses the big point. That is that once society has progressed to the point where dad can't drive the babysitter home, any dad who does drive the babysitter home will be seen as creepy ("Why didn't the mom drive her?"). | /r/MensRights | 21/01/13 12:27 PM |
| 1 | "When men and women considered offers of casual sex from famous people, or offers from close friends whom they were told were good in bed, the gender differences in acceptance of casual-sex proposalsYou think walking up to random college students and offering sex (the initial experiment) is free from confounding factors and biases? | /r/MensRights | 14/01/13 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Started working on a new article on Wikipedia called "Men's suicide in the United States". Help would be appreciated.I wouldn't bother. Wikipedia is really a lost cause, it's all about gaming the system by mastering their political lingo, showing your seriousness by deleting whatever you can get away with, and generally sucking up to the hierarchy. | /r/MensRights | 11/01/13 01:35 PM |
| 2 | My feminist studies class will hate me for this one.Feckblog is a great blog which is really serious about sourcing data. Feminist critics is a good semi-academic blog, engaging more moderate feminists in debate. GendErratic has some excellent writing. A Voice for Men is, despite its occasional talk radio character, pretty good at showing the diversity in the movement. As you probably know, people who see themselves as pro-men fall on a spectrum from egalitarian to traditionalist. Traditionalists want some degree of return to traditional gender r… | /r/MensRights | 10/01/13 08:11 AM |
| 3 | We're always calling out feminists for making up statistics, but how do we know that the 42% of accused rapists are actually falsely accused?As Pierce Harlan points out, even if it's not a full-blown malicious false accusation, that's scant consolation to the accused. | /r/MensRights | 09/01/13 09:48 AM |
| 2 | My sister is a feminist, I like to call myself a humanist because I want to be neutral, but stuff she posts like this just bothers the hell out of me.That chart is still bad. The categories need to be "people accused", "people formally accused", "people formally convicted", "people formally acquitted", "people convicted later found innocent". Then a separate chart, with the same categories, for false rape accusations, scaled so that the ratio between the two charts is right. Good luck getting quality data for everything in these charts... but it didn't stop the makers of the original chart. It's a problem that you can make a lot more effectiv… | /r/MensRights | 08/01/13 08:32 AM |
| 3 | "We, Of The Fatherless Tribe": A black feminist speaks of the harm of fatherlessnessNo, that is like saying men who are victims of violence from men "did it to themselves". This woman did not choose to not have a father. | /r/MensRights | 04/01/13 08:12 AM |
| 3 | Judge Rules Adoptive Parents Must Return Baby to Biological FatherRampant androgyny There's nothing wrong with androgyny, perhaps you meant misandry? | /r/MensRights | 03/01/13 02:50 PM |
| 1 | UK feminists demand female supremacist anti-prostitution laws that criminalize buying, but not selling, sex.This doesn't help sex workers. The sex workers themselves and most organizations that try to help them (even explicitly feminist ones) agree with this. | /r/MensRights | 03/01/13 11:57 AM |
| 1 | European feminists gang up on children's fairytales - English pravda.ru(crosspost from r/rage)Because there's nothing substantial about fairy tales like Snow White or Sleeping Beauty. Tell me, please, what is so great about them? They are very, very important to understand our culture. What's so wrong about having books where girls aren't just pretty little princesses Straw man - it's not about keeping new stories out, it's about keeping old stories in. | /r/MensRights | 19/12/12 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Dear Men's Rights. I'm a female blogger seeking some help.It could also have to do with the fact that GWW is a well articulated and well spoken individual. She is, but while that is necessary, it is also not sufficient. Compare her to Qanan, who was also very well-articulated, but he was forced out by being outed to his employer. Not that it detracts from what GWW does in any way. It's just the sad reality that men are more vulnerable to harassment and ostracism when speaking out on these issues. A related, worrying thing is that some self-proclaimed M… | /r/MensRights | 19/12/12 09:23 AM |
| 1 | "This is an advertisement for the gun Adam Lanza used to murder 20 children and 6 adults. We need to talk about gun control and mental health, but we also need to have a conversation about American masculinity."The people who are most eager to get their idea of masculinity from the likes of gun ads, are the people who lack positive male role models in their life, a.k.a dads. | /r/MensRights | 18/12/12 11:52 AM |
| 3 | Swedish woman battered her husband for 40 years. Got sentenced to prison and her appeal was rejected.Reported in a Swedish newspaper, but the source is vg.no and this happened in Norway. The man died before the sentence was passed. http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=10048652 translate link: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fartikkel.php%3Fartid%3D10048652 | /r/MensRights | 18/12/12 10:09 AM |
| 1 | What is the best men's rights website/blog, in your opinion? Which one showcases exactly what the men's rights movement is all about?He can be very thoughtful, and he's unquestionably very good at participating effectively in the Swedish public debate. But lately, he's closed things down and gone a little over the top promoting his book, IMO. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/12 03:06 PM |
| 2 | What is the best men's rights website/blog, in your opinion? Which one showcases exactly what the men's rights movement is all about?Agreed - these are the best. Also, Feckblog is invaluable for the research he does. A close runner up would be GendErratic. They're usually great, but they have a bad habit of using some shoddy pseudo-biological/armchair evo-psych arguments once in a while. AvfM I can't recommend. Although many posters are good, some were great (qanan, we miss you), the main author has for a little too long lived on the talk radio idea that the more incensive, the better, and all publicity is good publicity. But… | /r/MensRights | 17/12/12 03:04 PM |
| 1 | it’s time to talk about mental illness. (regardign violent boys; multiple crossposts)Sarah Kendzior isn't the woman who outed her son, she's the woman who posted the critical article I linked to. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/12 12:34 PM |
| 1 | A big "thank you" to the Warren Farrell protesters.Looks like that hit close to home, heh. Wonder if it actually was Chen or one of his buddies. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/12 11:19 AM |
| 1 | A big "thank you" to the Warren Farrell protesters.There exists an audiobook structured as an interview. | /r/MensRights | 17/12/12 11:14 AM |
| 1 | it’s time to talk about mental illness. (regardign violent boys; multiple crossposts)I thought there was something suspicious about this story, since it was so well written and timed dramatically (also, it seemed odd to use heavily authoritarian measures on a kid who triggers on not getting to choose which clothes to wear.) http://sarahkendzior.com/2012/12/16/want-the-truth-behind-i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-read-her-blog/ Edit: Sarah Kendzior is an interestingperson to follow on twitter as well. "Wow, mommy bloggers are really into making death threats." | /r/MensRights | 17/12/12 10:41 AM |
| 2 | Are there many teenagers in the MRM? I can't seem to find any.There's a quote by Henry Thoreau which I need to repeat to myself now and then: "I did not come into this world primarily to make it a better place to live, but to live in it, be it good or bad." Perhaps they may seem strange words for a man who went to prison for refusing to support war and slavery. But he's actually very consistent. He recognises no active obligation to save the world or stop any particular injustice - but he insists that you don't be part of the injustice yourself. The Christ… | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 06:01 PM |
| 1 | College writer uses 'Movember' to raise awareness about a critical issue: a women's right not to shaveIt's rather impressive of her to make an issue of women's shaving, after sneering at men who display "lumberjack levels of beastliness" by not shaving. Even as a far from vain guy, I shave my face every day to avoid a negative reaction. Some of the negative reactions come from small kids, some from adults who should know better. It may not be fair, but it's the way it is. I can empathize with women who face unreasonable appearance demands, it's not like it's totally alien to men. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 10:32 AM |
| 1 | It's misinformation like this that gives us a bad name.heh, it's a lot more than one, and goes a lot deeper. | /r/MensRights | 19/11/12 10:15 AM |
| 2 | Second-wave feminism is dying (slowly)But it's really misleading. There's a huge difference between the feminism of the suffragettes and the feminism of Alexandra Kollontai, although they all get lumped together in "first wave". "First wave" feminists agreed on very little when it came to solutions. The feminism of the Soviet Union, and the influence it had on western feminists, is a fairly neglected area. Until fairly recently you could even read in Wikipedia that Iceland was the first modern country to legalize abortion (it wasn't… | /r/MensRights | 05/09/12 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Man loses family farm in divorce, has to dig up his parent's ashes & remove their headstones...It's Stewart Austin, so it's a man, yes. Actually, I think female judges are less likely to be so insanely biased against men. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 01:46 PM |
| 1 | So, it would appear that the GMP censors dissent.Much like faith and monsters Looks like antitheist flame bait to me. You're entitled to you opinion, but if you don't want to derail the conversation you should probably refrain from saying stuff like that. | /r/MensRights | 04/09/12 08:44 AM |
| 1 | Claiming female superiority, and exposing children to these messagesPhysical advantage (which the boys have to some degree, but not much as preteens!) simply isn't as desirable as mental prowess. Nor is the belief that you have it/lack it as important - if you think you're no good at sport, that may discourage you from training, but it doesn't actually make your muscles less effective. Being told that you're mentally inferior, though, harms the only "muscle" you have for improving in that arena. Think how destructive the "blacks are good at sports, whites are go… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 07:20 AM |
| 2 | Claiming female superiority, and exposing children to these messagesCould it be that girls' statuses are elevated by aspiring to be a boy and boys should not "degrade" themselves and dress like girls? Why would a little girl "aspire" to be a boy? Little girls, for the most part, don't look up to little boys. Usually they ignore them, sometimes they look down on them. It's a pretty sad thing to observe. Also, little girls don't really (and aren't encouraged to) dress like little boys. Compared to adult and even teenage fashion, sub-10 fashion for girls is more di… | /r/MensRights | 31/08/12 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Xavier basketball player is accused of sexual assault, so he is expelled even though he was proven innocentI don't know. I am not a lawyer. But it doesn't sound like it's something that's legal, saying a person is convicted of a crime when he isn't. | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Lauren Faust rejects creep-shaming: "I didn't create a show for little girls, I created it for little girls and their parents- including male parents."Odds are it's an invasion from somewhere. I see only one regular name among the heavily downvoted posts (and frankly, that doesn't deserve all those downvotes). | /r/MensRights | 29/08/12 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Please don't hunt me down and kill me for asking this, but...You don't know what a randomized controlled trial is, do you? How about you instead go look at some videos of male infant genital cutting, if you think it's OK? (In case you don't understand, I think all infant genital cutting is child abuse, and I have no desire to look at it, just as I don't want to see any other form of child abuse). Sites opposed to the practice have plenty of them. Sites supporting it mostly don't. And those which do... Well, take this occasion to learn a new word. Circleak… | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Please don't hunt me down and kill me for asking this, but...I'd like to see the faces of the ethics committee if you suggested a randomized controlled trial, like the ones that are used to argue for male IGM. But there have in fact been studies which indicate a correlation between FGM and lower HIV prevalence. Of course, these are rejected as arguments for FGM (among others by the researchers performing them), but the same arguments for rejection are simply not listened to when the more socially prestigious practice of male IGM is the issue. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 02:59 PM |
| 2 | Please don't hunt me down and kill me for asking this, but...Has it occured to you that maybe American and Jewish cultural practices have higher cultural status than Sub-Saharan African ones? And that even educated people can produce excuses to justify their cultural habits? | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 02:21 PM |
| 3 | Please don't hunt me down and kill me for asking this, but...It's far less common than you think. If it wasn't for doctors with the attitude of "well, he doesn't need that anyway, let's just cut it off!", it would virtually never happen. You do not need circumcision to treat phimosis. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 02:15 PM |
| 3 | Please don't hunt me down and kill me for asking this, but...I'd say if it granted a significant degree of immunity to diseases which Were common There was no better protection from, and were highly likely to cause serious harm to (or kill) the boy if contracted. ... then we could perhaps start talking. Infant genital cutting fails three of four criteria (HIV is not common, IGC is not effective protection, and there are better forms of protection). | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 02:12 PM |
| 1 | My high school is sexist in PE.Still a symptom of discrimination, because there's a conspicuous lack of discrimination based on e.g. height. It's not fun being 1.60 and expected to jump as highly as the guy at 1.95. It would be easy to correct for, but it isn't done. | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 11:17 AM |
| 1 | The unfortunate politicization of the University of Montana's mandatory sexual assault trainingThe irony is of course that if Amanda Marcotte had been right that most rapes are deliberate and predatory (as opposed to failure to read signals, failure to be explicit etc.) then this sort of training would be by definition worthless. If men really are demons, sensitivity training isn't going to help! | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 08:06 AM |
| 2 | Please don't hunt me down and kill me for asking this, but...Please don't hunt me down and kill me for asking this, but... I knew what would come after seeing this. It's perfectly understandable that you don't hate your parents for circumcising you. It's perfectly OK that you're happy with your (circumcised) body. It obviously doesn't do you personally any good to think too much about what you have been denied. But even if you, or indeed most genitally cut men don't see yourself as victims, that's no reason to tolerate the continued practice. Most genital… | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 07:39 AM |
| 3 | According to my University's mandatory rape training, women do not require consentI think the initiator in these situations is responsible for making sure that his or her assumptions about the other person square with reality. Well, the original point of this submission is that nowhere does it say that the man consented to oral sex. She made an assumption that because he wanted intercourse, he wanted oral sex. But as the policy states, "engaging in one form of sexual activity does not imply consent to another". She is just as much a rapist as the man is, according to the text… | /r/MensRights | 28/08/12 06:49 AM |
| 1 | TIL: Until 1988, US presidental TV debates were arranged by the League of Women Voters.I didn't say it was bad. It's interesting, though. | /r/MensRights | 27/08/12 03:16 PM |
| 3 | I'm having a hard time dealing with "women's history". Need some balanced, unbiased information.I happened to look into some medieval laws in connection with some claims in a reddit discussion, and although I've been around here a bit, I was frankly surprised at how far they were from the feminist narrative. The one that stuck with me (and the one I quoted) was from the Visigothic code, the law among Christians in Spain from around the 7th century to the 10th. See for yourself: http://libro.uca.edu/vcode/visigoths.htm | /r/MensRights | 26/08/12 06:00 PM |
| 1 | This is Going to Blow a Few Gaskets...I've been at the receiving end of "plan-making", and I don't count that as a male privilege... | /r/MensRights | 24/08/12 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Lincoln police: False assault report followed vow to be 'catalyst' (I'll prove to everyone how oppressed we are! Just watch me) The truth is stranger than fiction...now when it happens for real people will ignore the real victim Assuming the victim isn't a victim of false accusation. Then maybe they'll be treated ever so slightly better as a result of this. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/12 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Lesbian who reported 'hate crime' attack staged incident, blamed 3 menwill only make it harder for gays and lesbians that have to deal with real crap. Agreed. And that sucks. On the positive side, it might make it ever so slightly easier for White Christian Hetero Male Cissexist Opressorstm to deal with false accusations. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/12 07:59 AM |
| 1 | Lesbian who reported 'hate crime' attack staged incident, blamed 3 menThe difference between irresponsibly firing a rifle in a populated area and firing it directly at someone, I'd say. If someone had actually ended up accused from this, I'm assuming the accuser wouldn't be happy about it (because never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity...) | /r/MensRights | 23/08/12 07:56 AM |
| 1 | Lesbian who reported 'hate crime' attack staged incident, blamed 3 menIronically, if false accusations is an underestimated problem, this probably (in net) leads to fewer problems in society. | /r/MensRights | 23/08/12 07:51 AM |
| 2 | Lesbian who alleged Nebraska hate crime charged with lying about attackI wonder what they're going to think. | /r/MensRights | 22/08/12 11:00 AM |
| 3 | I used to dislike r/MensRights. Today I changed my mind.I like Manhattan Transfer, does that count? | /r/MensRights | 21/08/12 08:08 PM |
| 3 | On studs and slutsThere are actually very few people in this thread who agree with this article without reservation, thank God. | /r/MensRights | 20/08/12 07:37 AM |
| 3 | MRA challenge to fraudulent feminist "hero": show me the proof, and be rid of me forever!Let's hope not. Martin Luther betrayed all his ideals. As young, he was sympathetic to the Jews, and stated that it was certainly no wonder they hadn't embraced Christianity the way they had been treated. But the old bitter Luther, when he found out the Jews didn't convert anyway, became one of the most vicious antisemites of his age. As young, he had faith in people's ability to make up their minds, and trusted that if they only got to read the bible in their own language, they would come aroun… | /r/MensRights | 19/08/12 12:13 PM |
| 3 | MRA challenge to fraudulent feminist "hero": show me the proof, and be rid of me forever!There are a lot of fake conversion stories, but for me seeing "Christian turns Atheist" stories also seem to come from people who really misunderstand Christianity (and possibly atheism as well, idk). There are plenty of well-documented, non-anonymous conversions both ways. I've known some people with really unstable personalities (you could say it's the reason I'm here), who can and do change world-views utterly without regard to consistence or reason. Like the OP, I think this one is fake, but… | /r/MensRights | 19/08/12 12:05 PM |
| 3 | MRA challenge to fraudulent feminist "hero": show me the proof, and be rid of me forever!Well, I don't know about that. I certainly care about the "nice guy" shaming rhetoric. | /r/MensRights | 19/08/12 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?I am a non-MMO gamer, D&D from 1990 to 2000, (euro) boardgames from 2003 to now, closest I've been to MMORPGs is muds. Your MMOs sound a lot like work, and not much fun... | /r/MensRights | 18/08/12 07:27 PM |
| 2 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?You could say that men have a right to their own spaces. A common complaint goes like this: "We used to be seen as social lepers. Now that what we're doing has become more socially acceptable, the girls want to join in. OK, fine. But they don't get to rearrange the furniture!". There are very few women I would accuse of doing this. Maybe a couple of the youtube feminists. Luckily for me this sort hasn't made much inroads in my subculture (and they're not likely to find much to complain about her… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/12 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?It used to be considered men's work, like cobbling. I don't know what happened to change it. Here in Norway we learn it in school craft lessons, but I was never any good at it, and I've forgotten how to do it (I also forgot it after first learning it in 2. grade, had to relearn it around 6. grade - my memory just doesn't seem well suited to stuff like this.) | /r/MensRights | 18/08/12 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Great video on the recent "girlfriend mode" controversy in Borderlands 2.You could translate it as "darling" or "sweetheart", it'd be gender neutral in English too. It literally means dearest. | /r/MensRights | 18/08/12 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?I'm almost tempted to start an arts and crafts bar, and I don't even drink. (True story: my sister runs a knitting club based in a pub. I'm pretty sure they're not all women there either.) | /r/MensRights | 18/08/12 10:55 AM |
| 1 | Why should male gamers change their behavior?You know, I think "gaming" is overly broad. There are really not very many ways Dixit players are like Burning Wheel players, or online FPS players. Beyond being more popular with men, there's almost nothing you can say that applies for all. There are many that are non-competitive, e.g. Minecraft, pen and paper RPGs, party boardgames. Even in those that are highly competitive, it's not acceptable to throw around insults casually - that's largely an online phenomena. Not all appeal to younger peo… | /r/MensRights | 18/08/12 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Steal this blog!How about you learn something instead? I'm sure many of these far right radicals would love to see men's rights in an unholy symbiosis with their perverse ideology, as a kind of mirror image to feminism's relationship with marxism. Is that what you want? I had thought better of you. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 04:47 PM |
| 2 | Steal this blog!But I don't care who you are, you can't identify an ideology and then say it only exists in the minds of secret practitioners. I don't follow. Lind is the one who asserts that Cultural Marxism is an ideology, a secret ideology invented and practiced by a bunch of second rate German Jewish philosophers. I claim that this thing doesn't exist at all. The result of this is Marxism, practiced on a cultural level. And you want to call foul on that? Yes, it's bullshit. Marxism can't be "practiced on a … | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 03:22 PM |
| 2 | Steal this blog!No, it's not. You may not be aware of it, but the person who invented the term cultural marxism (William S. Lind) defined it thus: Cultural Marxism is a branch of western Marxism, different from the Marxism-Leninism of the old Soviet Union. It is commonly known as “multiculturalism” or, less formally, Political Correctness. From its beginning, the promoters of cultural Marxism have known they could be more effective if they concealed the Marxist nature of their work, hence the use of terms such … | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 01:59 PM |
| 2 | Steal this blog!there is no denying the fact that political correctness is a powerful weapon of social control, steeped in Marxist ideology and it has filtered its way into the collective consciousness, There is no denying that there are many Jews in the entertainment and banking industries either - but if I point this out in a voice similar to the one you use now, I shouldn't be surprised if people think I'm suggesting something more sinister. You should not use the term "cultural marxism", for pretty much the… | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 12:45 PM |
| 2 | Steal this blog!That is what "cultural marxism" means. Hopefully St. Estephe doesn't believe it, but he's certainly adopted the word (and worldview) of people who do. It comes from this article: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html Theodor W. Adorno was a lot of the things which trigger conspiracy theorists: Jewish, ex-marxist academic, worked with media. Feel free to read the whole thing if you have the stomach for it. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 12:17 PM |
| 2 | Steal this blog!It's true - very little of St. Estephe's blog is opinion, and mostly it's fascinating tidbits illustrating that things weren't as simple in the past as its often portrayed. However, this is marred by the fact that those 5% of his blog which are opinion, are horribly ill-informed. The "cultural marxism" conspiracy theory, for instance. The idea that a bunch of ex-marxist postmodernists in the first part of the 20th century weren't really ex-marxists at all, but undercover agents with a nefarious … | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 09:07 AM |
| 3 | Was asked to give one example of ways in which sexism hurts men today. I gave several, on of which was selective service. This was the reply.For one, the military wouldn't even condone a draft these days. That's in the US. Culturally, you aren't so dissimilar from the many, many European nations which have conscription (I count Israel too), so I don't think you should assume the idea couldn't get traction again in a hurry. The issue isn't such a low priority for me who had to put my education on hold for a year. | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 06:59 AM |
| 3 | Was asked to give one example of ways in which sexism hurts men today. I gave several, on of which was selective service. This was the reply.I think I'd go. That's your business, but do you think that it's OK that all of us should be forced to go even if we don't agree for some reason? Just because we are men? (Moot point for me, since I was conscripted and worked for a year as a CO while my female peers got on with their education.) | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 06:54 AM |
| 5 | Was asked to give one example of ways in which sexism hurts men today. I gave several, on of which was selective service. This was the reply.Not to belittle the suffering of girls who try to kill themselves, but the success rate is a good proxy for despair. Saying "I want to die unless someone cares enough to save me" is different from saying just "I want to die". | /r/MensRights | 17/08/12 06:49 AM |
| 1 | This is one side of men's right's that I am not seeing being discussed here yet.Good Man Project and the other feminist sorts are just useless as far as I am concerned. You should know that it has moved quite far from where it started. I agree it and NSWATM were not worth the time when they started, but they contained feminists who engaged with the issues in good faith. Those who do tend to gradually come around. | /r/MensRights | 16/08/12 01:29 PM |
| 6 | This is one side of men's right's that I am not seeing being discussed here yet.It's a bit hard to quantify, I'd say. Glenn Sacks was one of the first prominent MRAs on the English-speaking web. He's anti-traditionalist and politically moderate. Paul Elam and AvfM were also early, anti-traditionalist and politically right/libertarian. The Spearhead is almost entirely traditionalist and politically on the right. I don't know if it's true, but one poster here claimed it was established by former regulars in Sacks' comment threads, who were unhappy with his moderate positions.… | /r/MensRights | 16/08/12 11:21 AM |
| 1 | GirlWritesWhat being harassed via YouTube copyright infringement policiesOn youtube. Just sayin'. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/12 08:23 AM |
| 1 | GirlWritesWhat being harassed via YouTube copyright infringement policiesWell, so are you my pundit friend. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/12 08:22 AM |
| 1 | "My point is, I don't think catcallers care if you're 'sexy' or not. They're just like 'Oh, a female. Let me make her life harder!'"...interesting quote.I've said this before and I'll say it again: I don't believe catcallers are trying to get sex. (Which is not to say that it doesn't happen once in a blue moon). The SRSer is right in that. What he doesn't have a good explanation for, is why they do it. Just to make a random woman uncomfortable? What's the payoff in that? BS, I say. I think the explanation is that men who are catcalling are doing it to prove to themselves (and their peers) that they don't care about female rejection and scorn. It… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/12 08:50 AM |
| -1 | It's shit like this Reddit...The fairly obvious thing they miss is that power isn't just a single number, comparable in all contexts. In some situations and in some arenas, the supposedly less powerful group may be in a position to act bigoted with impunity. Another thing is that even if you model power as a single number, just because I have less power than you doesn't mean I can't abuse you with the little I have. Even if you hit me back with more force. Abuse is not a matter of double-entry bookkeeping, it doesn't cancel… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/12 07:54 AM |
| -1 | It's shit like this Reddit...Now go for that other word Marx liked... not proletariat, but bor.. bour... bourgi... (FD: I look up the spelling on google every time) | /r/MensRights | 14/08/12 07:48 AM |
| 3 | Leaving the sisterhood: A recovering feminist speaksNo, but the fact is, men have to learn how to initiate romantic attention. Women basically don't - they can, but it's strictly optional, and obviously only those women who find it easy do it. (Some men find it easy too.) A great deal of the discomfort to women identified as sexual harassement is caused by incompetence at this, e.g. elevatorgate. With street harassement, another mechanism is at work. Men who do this don't expect it to work, nor do they do it to "keep women in their place". They a… | /r/MensRights | 14/08/12 06:27 AM |
| 5 | Leaving the sisterhood: A recovering feminist speaksThere's the cliche about "don't stick your dick in crazy". I'm absolutely sure men are much worse at identifying "crazy" if it is an attribute of an otherwise attractive woman. I would say, though, that the treshold for public shaming/vilification behind the backs of unattractive women is a good deal higher with men. The first due to social norms, the second due to less close personal relationships. | /r/MensRights | 14/08/12 06:16 AM |
| 10 | Google's definition of RapeDon't bother, just one month, and all comments are obviously incensive. Troll. Ban. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 07:34 PM |
| 0 | Circumcision: woman author tells "intactivists" to "man up" & stop being sillyThere are fortunately a number of feminists coming around to the anti-circumcision side. | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 02:17 PM |
| 8 | Circumcision: woman author tells "intactivists" to "man up" & stop being sillyActually, Paul said that, but it's one of many cases where Paul extrapolates well from Christ's lessons IMO (Jesus in the gospels certainly didn't worry much about ceremonial laws). | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 07:42 AM |
| 6 | Circumcision: woman author tells "intactivists" to "man up" & stop being sillyAlso, why hasn't anyone done a study on the rate of AIDs infection in women with genital mutilation? They have, I've heard, but I can't do the digging to find the links now. I believe some didn't find the results they hoped (in other words, they found a correlation with lower infection rate). | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 07:40 AM |
| 2 | The Importance of War to the Women's MovementBut not for the benefits he points at, those have been more accidental. It's obviously complicated. When a lot of men are off dying in wars, you might expect that the "surplus" of women back home led to decreased status for women. Or you may expect that since women then have to do a lot of "men's work", the gender roles may drift together. But the opposite appears to have happened after WW2. Either way, it would be conspiratorial to claim women inspired wars out of a desire for a certain gender … | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 07:05 AM |
| 4 | Personal angst over Feminism, MRM, and the whole of male/female interaction.This is a bit of a sidetrack, but your GF's issues with alcohol and sex is very good illustration that it isn't just men who are messed up and confused by contradictory expectations. You should absolutely refuse, say you can't have sex either until she's capable of coming to terms with what she wants without using alcohol as an excuse. It may be hard to introduce into conversation, but... alcohol really does not change what people want at all. Not apart from the culturally learned effect. If we … | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 06:54 AM |
| 3 | Fellow MRA's I need some advice. (preferably from divorced fathers) Caution: Sort of long.Justified or not, especially in court, it's important to keep cool. And to have a record of acting calm and reasonable - it can be hard to document to their satisfaction, but unfortunately it's not so hard for your ex if she should succeed in baiting you. Let them have no doubt who the reasonable one is - it isn't guaranteed to help, but as a man, and as a black man at that, they mentally will see you as angry and dangerous if you give them any material at all to work with. For your own sake, to… | /r/MensRights | 13/08/12 06:28 AM |
| 2 | SRSers/feminists vandalising MRM material on Wikipedia againSources are posted in /r/mrref, and you should also take a look at feckblog and http://whitehouseboysmen.org (a pretty serious effort by academics). | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 02:04 PM |
| 14 | German circumcision ban: Is it a parent's right to choose? (x-post r/XYChromosomes)Nonono, the equivalent for the two pretty baby girls posted in the article is piercing of the ears! Don't you see, the BBC says so! | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 01:25 PM |
| 2 | Found this on my facebook feed, seem's a little off to meI have joint legal custody, and although this is true, more often than not you are excluded by default from important information unless you make yourself obnoxious to get it. Passports require legally documented consent from the other parent, of course. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 10:46 AM |
| 3 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!There's a fairly obvious logical fallacy here. "Man" and "Woman" are not mere opposites. If I am not a real man by your standards, does that mean I am a real woman? Of course not. By calling me a coward that way, you aren't calling me a woman. (Woman aren't usually called cowards anyway). You're calling me a genderless thing. One which lacks the values due to a man - being strong, brave, self reliant and having testicles. AND lacks the inherent value from being a woman - being sensitive, caring,… | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:40 AM |
| 4 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!voting rights I certainly don't want to deny women the right to vote, but it is resolved today, and more than resolved. (The majority of people who vote are women). Also, if you compare with similar countries where women got the right to vote late (e.g. Switzerland) there aren't many extreme differences. Mostly, men and women's political interests align - there are far greater conflicts between the interests of retirees and workers, and between rich and poor. domestic abuse Happens both ways, ha… | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:35 AM |
| 3 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!Absolutely not. Men are not presumed to have "courage" (even after your definition), they have an obligation to perform to prove it. And women are not presumed to be cowards. I assure you. Do an IAT with cowardice-related words, and I'll guarantee you women will do no worse. Women are allowed not to do a lot of things that men must do, without being thought as cowards for it. That's by far more of an advantage than a disadvantage. Which is not to say that the sum of female disadvantages is light… | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:17 AM |
| 3 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!And you all need to grow a pair. Sigh, you need to do some reading before you post. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:12 AM |
| 3 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!So straights are actually slightly underrepresented and atheists are way overrepresented, with whites being slightly overrepresented. Compared to US society, maybe. Compared to reddit, it's quite a lot more similar. Compared to the world, well, that gets complicated. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:11 AM |
| 2 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!I'm not from the US, I've never been to the US. But if I was from the US, I'd probably be from Washington, Oregon or possibly Minnesota. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:10 AM |
| 1 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!A 3% hypocrite/cynic ratio, that's tolerable. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:08 AM |
| 2 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!Assuming no ballot stuffing. And as long as you remember it's just representative of people here who take polls, not people here in general. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:06 AM |
| 4 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!English "Race" isn't necessarily exactly equal to German "rase". Everyone understands from context that the questioner isn't suggesting people from different parts of the world are incapable of having fertile offspring... | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:05 AM |
| 1 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!What doe the words “liberal”, “conservative” and “libertarian” have to do with the size/power of government? As the words are used in the US (especially by conservatives/libertarians), that's almost the only thing they have to do with. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:03 AM |
| 1 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!It doesn't look like it, though? I mean, presumably a lot more would have answered in extreme, unsympathetic ways if that was the case. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 07:02 AM |
| 6 | /r/MR POLL RESULTS!!!I get the impression that many bisexuals don't feel entirely at home in the LBGT culture, for some reason. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 06:57 AM |
| 4 | SRSers/feminists vandalising MRM material on Wikipedia againI don't see anyone calling him a her. Anyway, if he'd known a thing about MRAs he would know we are not surprise at all to hear that he's a man. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 06:51 AM |
| 14 | SRSers/feminists vandalising MRM material on Wikipedia againNo, it's not. It rewards the most zealously persistent, and the most skilled at playing the bureucracy. Maybe that's better than no oversight at all, but not by much. Certainly not if it also convinces people that the end result is neutral and objective. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 06:16 AM |
| 6 | SRSers/feminists vandalising MRM material on Wikipedia againOne of the reasons wikipedia is a lost cause is that they will often ban you or overrule you in disputes for calling outside attention to conflicts/bad users, like you do now. They are very tribal. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 06:14 AM |
| 2 | SRSers/feminists vandalising MRM material on Wikipedia againOne thing you should know is that while Wikpedia is a non-profit, wikia is not, although they have the same boss... Jimbo encourages deletion and tolerates wikipedia's endless drama because he wants to push as much content as possible over to wikia where he can make money off it. | /r/MensRights | 09/08/12 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Birmingham play centre bans Dads.Good way to teach the kids. From the age of nine, you start being a disgusting, dangerous creep who can't be trusted to be around women. But up to that, you're perfectly cute and welcome, so what's the problem? | /r/MensRights | 08/08/12 12:26 PM |
| 4 | Woman here, would someone mind clarifying some stuff for me?Many of the men I know seem to not care and are glad to be circumcised, which leaves it difficult for me to have a solid opinion. This actually is true of many circumcised women too - probably most of them until recently - and it can't just be blamed on backwardness (well, not uncommon backwardness anyway). FGM traditions would hardly survive otherwise, considering it's usually women who perform them. | /r/MensRights | 08/08/12 12:20 PM |
| 3 | Looking for informationLook in the sidebar, MRRef and MensRightsLinks have a lot. A problem is that although there is a lot of data, and most of it is good, not all of it is. It's not always curated as well as it should, and in an uphill debate like this, a couple of poorly sourced claims is poison. One blogger who is very good at curating relevant studies is the German MRA Feck: http://feck-blog.blogspot.no/ | /r/MensRights | 08/08/12 08:18 AM |
| 1 | How to get published without a point (or 'Women can do what they want by shouting CONTEXT loud enough')If she worked a couple factories in with those instruments and objects of hers, she could get a nice job writing Java APIs! | /r/MensRights | 08/08/12 07:39 AM |
| 3 | Men without Facebook: You're suspicious and potential stalkers, creeps, and psychopaths [/r/technology x-post]Not to say it implies anything nice about Forbes in general, but in this case the writer is criticizing the trend. | /r/MensRights | 08/08/12 07:35 AM |
| 1 | Men’s rights are [NOT] human rights, apparentlyIt's perfectly possible to write laws that apply to everyone, but treat different subsets differently. No. Or yes, of course it is, but then it isn't a universal law in Kant's sense, which was what you attacked in the first place. you cannot really derive other goals and values from it, because you can derive everything and anything from it. No, not anything. That's only from your straw-man version of the categorical imperative which omits the word "universal" from "universal law". But it's true… | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 01:52 PM |
| 1 | Women consistently vote more than men do. Want change? Start voting. Government is EVERYTHINGI doubt that, considering state governments were able to it just fine, and private doctors, construction, and others existed then as well. You're not up to date on your libertarian/anarchist theory if you think that is enough. Yes, there exist clever ways to provide public goods (such as sanitation and highways) without government, but they weren't invented yet in 1920. But I have to cut this here. Suffice to say that pooh-poohing women's right to vote because you think it didn't lead to the pol… | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 01:46 PM |
| 1 | Women consistently vote more than men do. Want change? Start voting. Government is EVERYTHINGThis creates increased desire for those things. Not necessarily from government. You're assuming only government can provide these things. I am not, but they were, and that's what matters. And yet big government prolonged the depression in the 30s and the recession we're in now. That's your belief, but that doesn't matter: they didn't share that belief back then, and that's what matters. Making bigger structures feasible doesn't mean they automatically rise organically nor does it mean we should… | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rights are [NOT] human rights, apparentlyYou do not get what universal law means in Kant's sense. Think of it as a statement about mathematical sets. There is a set, which we call the moral universe. This may include foetuses, animals, women, rich people, sleeping people, psychopaths - or not. Doesn't matter for our purposes. When you're writing a law, it cannot reference just a subset of the moral universe. If it does, it isn't universal. It has to reference the full set. The implication of Kant is that this "ultimate value" (in your … | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Men’s rights are [NOT] human rights, apparentlyThe law would be "act as if women are never wrong" in Kant's terms. But no, that isn't a universal law. At least, not if women are objects of your moral universe. I suppose if they aren't it can be considered a universal statement, but then you have the odd situation that you should always believe women, but don't necessarily tell the truth to them, refrain from hurting them, etc. If you have a fixed set hierarchy of values and goals (called your morals), you are a moralist, Hold it there. Kant … | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 12:20 PM |
| 2 | Men’s rights are [NOT] human rights, apparently"Women are never wrong" is not an act, Kant refers to acts. Kant's version is functionally identical to Chomsky's, they are both highly categorical moralists. Neither Chomsky nor Kant's definitions say anything about what are the proper objects of the (logical) moral universe, though. That's a tough one, in general. You could say foetuses aren't proper objects, in which case you can do something to them without permitting that it be done to you. You could also say it about animals, rocks, black … | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 11:35 AM |
| 2 | Men’s rights are [NOT] human rights, apparentlyWell played. I guess that when they cut that "wrong" stencil, they had planned to use it on posters with various statistics. "Nuh huh" is a very effective argument against factual claims if you belong to the group which is thought to be experts on these things. But using it on one which just says "Men's rights are human rights", that's a foot bullet if I ever saw one. | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 11:28 AM |
| 1 | Women consistently vote more than men do. Want change? Start voting. Government is EVERYTHINGThe population didn't grow 100 fold. It's tripled since then. So, you think it needs to be an exact multiple for this to be an explanation? I explained the mechanism: People also live a lot more densely packed together than 90 years ago. Among other things, this creates increased desire for government in the form of sanitation services, sanitation legislation and public health. Thoreau - a small government advocate if there ever was one - argued that government was at best a necessary evil to he… | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 06:40 AM |
| 3 | So much for CNN's inherent "maleness" of mass shootings: Woman opens fire on a crowd in Detroit.Sadly, this is going to become more common. When the culturally inherited idea that "women don't do such things" goes, more women start to actually imagine themselves doing such things. It's not as if great upper-body strength is required to kill someone with a firearm, and it's not as if women are inferior to men in the vindictiveness department. | /r/MensRights | 07/08/12 06:17 AM |
| 1 | Women consistently vote more than men do. Want change? Start voting. Government is EVERYTHINGCommunication exploded. Military technology exploded (both figuratively and literally). Commerce exploded. Population exploded. Immense social changes happened in all arenas. Some of these made more government possible, like the scientific study of organization, which had been steadily progressing since the industrial revolution. If you work in an office, you might be impressed with what they managed to do a hundred years ago without computers, just with well-organized raw manpower. Not only was… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 03:12 PM |
| 1 | I'm sick of this "privilege" nonsense, we should finally accept it for what it is; Poisoning the well. : PoliticalDiscussionYeah. Once you've admitted that your reasoning is fundamentally unreliable, you can be pressured to admit anything. But I should point out, IME feminists who openly embrace such unassailable dogma are rare. Feminists influenced by such dogmatists are common, though. Even the true dogmatists don't like to drag their world view into the light unless there is really no other option (i.e, they're losing an argument badly). | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 01:45 PM |
| 2 | I'm sick of this "privilege" nonsense, we should finally accept it for what it is; Poisoning the well. : PoliticalDiscussionThere are lot of advantages in the world that are real. Some come with just as big disadvantages, some don't. However, the feminist concept of privilege extends quite a bit beyond this. It not only denies any and all advantages, it implies that you as "privileged" cannot possibly understand how the "unprivileged" feels, and therefore you should just shut up and sit down and accept their interpretation of reality without question. It's not something you're supposed to understand, it's just someth… | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 12:53 PM |
| 3 | Four Men, Sharing Rent, and Friendship, for 18 YearsHoly cow, I actually have the Burning Wheel core books. Never actually played it, haven't played any RPGs since 1998 or so, but I just heard about it and thought it was worth looking at. Extremely interesting article, thanks for posting this, megazen. Pity the NYT don't even have words to describe the arrangement that don't ooze of scorn ("man-child", "man-cave"). | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 09:56 AM |
| 1 | Women consistently vote more than men do. Want change? Start voting. Government is EVERYTHINGThere are a few other things which changed in that period besides women getting the vote, you know? Maybe you shouldn't jump to a conclusion just because you like it and it's the first you thought of. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 09:13 AM |
| 2 | Women consistently vote more than men do. Want change? Start voting. Government is EVERYTHINGr/blackflag is interesting. It was supposed to be a mod-free subreddit, but naturally the goons at r/anarchism wouldn't stand for that, so they tried to trick the admins into making them moderators. Well-known /mr poster ENTP pointed this out to stop it, and was to his surprise made a moderator instead. After some discussion he decided to stay on, just to prevent further hijacking efforts and to clean out the spam queue on occasion. As far as I can tell, he's kept to his word. Most of the posts … | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 09:01 AM |
| 2 | "Men are basically unevolved dogs", "the Y chromosome is broken", "men are just testosterone damaged versions of women", "all humans are born female". This is the kind of hateful bigotry currently infecting the skeptic movement.Now now, for some atheists, football games just don't give the sense of community and belonging that they need ;) | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 08:31 AM |
| 0 | "Men are basically unevolved dogs", "the Y chromosome is broken", "men are just testosterone damaged versions of women", "all humans are born female". This is the kind of hateful bigotry currently infecting the skeptic movement.Explicitly, almost certainly not. But just as certainly, the odds that you think independently of your SO in such matters is very small, unless you had really thought about these things before you entered the relationship. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 08:27 AM |
| 1 | "Men are basically unevolved dogs", "the Y chromosome is broken", "men are just testosterone damaged versions of women", "all humans are born female". This is the kind of hateful bigotry currently infecting the skeptic movement.Oh, it's possible. Of course, it's possible he becomes a born-again Christian too. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 08:25 AM |
| 1 | "Men are basically unevolved dogs", "the Y chromosome is broken", "men are just testosterone damaged versions of women", "all humans are born female". This is the kind of hateful bigotry currently infecting the skeptic movement.I've noticed for a while now (not least since r/atheism was put on the front page) that there's a great deal of cocksureness in the online atheist community. I'm not surprised at all they spout such ignorant nonsense. The irony is that it's cargo-cult skepticism - emulating the style, lingo and and confidence of some highly visible genuine skeptics (well, more skeptical people), without having a clue about their meaning. | /r/MensRights | 06/08/12 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Ask men gold: a poster explains in good detail why so many people don't like feminism.Erasmus of Rotterdam? Smart guy, that one. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 09:58 PM |
| 5 | Gay men and the MRA.Yeah. And isn't that perplexing, when you think about it? From the individual (straight) young man's perspective, shouldn't he be happy about a little less competition for female attention? It's necessary to take a critical look at the idea that it's men and our fears which are the explanation for homophobia. | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 02:08 PM |
| 1 | What brought you to the MRM?This has been asked many times, but since there are so many new posters, it probably doesn't hurt. At least for many of the long time posters, it appears to be true. It's issues relating to divorce, custody lawsuits and single fatherhood which brought me here, though out of concern for my child (and the need to keep a decent working relationship to the mom) there's not much I can say about my own experiences. For newer (and younger) posters, it seems to be a bit more about radfem trolls providin… | /r/MensRights | 03/08/12 08:55 AM |
| 8 | If you wanted university students to know about men's rights, what would you share with them? (Responses will be submitted to my professor to teach her future students)There are many good points here, but maybe we should also be conscious about which issues are possible to convince university students of in a limited time slot. You want to start with the things there should be little resistance to, and move gradually to the more controversial things. I suggest an ordering something like this: Men's health, cancer (movember is practically mainstream already) Men's suicide The sympathy gap The sentencing gap Legal discrimination (draft, health care access) Forei… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 11:45 AM |
| 3 | So I suggested some ladies check at this subreddit and I was surprised at what this person said... you guys are nowhere near that bad!If anyone receive threats in PMs, contact a moderator. People have been and will be banned for that. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 08:17 AM |
| 1 | So I suggested some ladies check at this subreddit and I was surprised at what this person said... you guys are nowhere near that bad!There's also people who see no point in men's rights except as a means to guide people towards a far-right world view, there are people who peddle amateur sociobiological just-so stories, there are pick-up artist types who boast of their cynicism... there are a lot of highly annoying people here, at least to me. But if there's even hint of a threat of violence (in posts or in messages), the person gets banned. There are a lot of diverse, interesting experiences people share. People come from all… | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 08:15 AM |
| 2 | So I suggested some ladies check at this subreddit and I was surprised at what this person said... you guys are nowhere near that bad!I don't really think you're serious, but: http://www.snopes.com/humor/iftrue/antpoison.asp | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 08:00 AM |
| 3 | So I suggested some ladies check at this subreddit and I was surprised at what this person said... you guys are nowhere near that bad!I admit it, it's true; I do drink diet sodas. | /r/MensRights | 02/08/12 07:59 AM |
| 3 | "The #UN has neglected sexual violence against men and boys for years" - rape is defined as only happening to women and girls. time marks inside.Conspiratorial thinking, not worthy of you. World Health Organization explicitly stated its intention was to eliminate the family. A source woud be nice. But it doesn't really matter, because it doesn't have that intention today, and a civil organization like the WHO can't hold a secret agenda hidden for 65 years. This is why "advanced" schools now promote the idea that children should not have a best friend I wouldn't be surprised. I am aware of the immense number of stupid and contradictory th… | /r/MensRights | 01/08/12 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Woman who tries to set up domestic violence shelter for men receives death threats from feministsWorking class families had more gender equality because they couldn't afford to shield women from work outside the home. They readily embraced women's rights, although of course (like with Marxism) the theorists were well-educated people. | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 12:58 PM |
| 1 | Woman who tries to set up domestic violence shelter for men receives death threats from feministsIn fact, both the civil rights movement and women's rights movements existed quite independent of Marxism. But Marxism had a policy of infiltration - it was articulated very clearly by Trotskyists, but it was neither new or unique to them. They went into groups, first being very discreet about their political activities, but gradually pushing for a Marxist world view. It was their fanaticism which allowed it. They had such party discipline that if the party told you what to study, work as, or in… | /r/MensRights | 31/07/12 12:55 PM |
| 0 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.You assume as a default that he's lazy and hasn't tried, based solely on the "evidence" that he hasn't got visitation. That's about as ignorant and offensive as saying to the parents of a child who died in a traffic accident "obviously you didn't teach him enough traffic" or "obviously you were driving drunk at the time". Never mind evil women. Main problem right now is people/ trolls like you, who interpret all men's problems from being from a lack of "manliness". Either you are a psycho or you… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 04:21 PM |
| 1 | "Police had not ruled out the possibility that the incident... may have been staged. " But they already threw a rally.Fair enough, I guess I was thinking more about the failure aspect. If you're doing insurance fraud, you want the whole house to burn down, I supposed. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 09:57 AM |
| 0 | Fellow MRA's I am at the end of my rope. I'm done. Fucking DONE.So the OP probably hasn't even fought it. Hey, are you from a feminist subreddit or something? Because that's a pretty shocking assertion to come with - esentially saying he's a worthless piece of shit. Especially when a man threatens suicide, and also when he states clearly i have no visitation rights you should think twice before leaping to such a conclusion. That men don't get custody because they don't make an effort to get it is a classic anti-male meme (and a vile lie). That's why I'm aski… | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 09:53 AM |
| 1 | "Police had not ruled out the possibility that the incident... may have been staged. " But they already threw a rally.Using an accelerant like gasoline? And failed? This is neither more or less likely in the insurance fraud scenario vs. the hate crime scenario. | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Why women shit test men (female psychology and male disposability, comments are an interesting read)As if you ever believed anything else? | /r/MensRights | 30/07/12 09:43 AM |
| 1 | UPDATE!: Home stormed by police, arrested for rape. (PROOOOF)Will not work in Denmark. Will probably not work anywhere else either... | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 01:44 PM |
| 2 | Front page of CNN: "men can still recognize what it means to be a good man and act like one." [referring to the 3 men who "put the lives of the women before their own" during the Aurora shooting.]Hm, that's interesting, but they should have surveyed men as well. Since it's more embarrassing and shameful to be the one rejected than the one rejecting, it could be that some rejected women are lying/misremebering in order to preserve their self-image. Possibly men too. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:32 AM |
| 3 | Context to that Ehrenreich quote.We need a kind of woman who can say NO, not just to the date rapist or overly persistent boyfriend, but to the military or corporate hierarchy within which she finds herself. We need a kind of woman who doesn't want to be one of the boys when the boys are acting like sadists or fools. And we need a kind of woman who isn't trying to assimilate, but to infiltrate - and subvert the institutions she goes into. YOU can be those women. And as the brightest and best educated women of your generation, y… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 11:26 AM |
| 5 | Context to that Ehrenreich quote.She was giving a speech to students who were going to "infiltrate US institutions" whether she wanted to or not. She told them to keep their conscience when doing it, and warned strongly against thinking they were morally superior just because they were women, or thinking that mere gender equality would fix everything. One does not invite Barbara Ehrenreich to hold a speak if the primary goal is to praise hard work and success and make the listeners feel good about that. Moral admonishments are … | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 10:42 AM |
| 1 | This is what the ladies in /r/feminism are currently wetting themselves overThis is an excerpt from a speech adressed to women - graduates of a prestigious college, in fact. They were all going to "infliltrate society" whether Ehrenreich wanted to or not. What Ehrenreich warned them was that they weren't morally superior to men just because they were women, and unless they resolved not to, they could be expected to do all the evil things men did. She used the Abu Ghraib scandal as an example, pointed out that half the indicted abusers were women, the prison was run by a… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 10:40 AM |
| 2 | This is what the ladies in /r/feminism are currently wetting themselves overOr there are a lot of people who write stupid posts like these, and lots of people who are annoyed with them. What's the big deal? Yes, Ehrenreich identifies as feminist, and occasionally says stupid things like "the institutions men built". So what, is that news to you? Or is it that they're talking about in in r/feminism that's news? You're ignorant, and you're trying to stir up an inter-subreddit conflict about your politics. The context she said this in was the Abu Ghraib scandal. She also s… | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 10:22 AM |
| 1 | This is what the ladies in /r/feminism are currently wetting themselves overIt means Barbara Ehrenreich is really tired with feminism as it exists today, and would like to focus on social justice. I see nothing wrong with that. | /r/MensRights | 27/07/12 10:03 AM |
| 2 | I have no idea if this is where I should put this but does anyone know somewhere a guy can talk to someone about having body image issues without being shamed by women for them?A bit far from where I live, so don't know too much about what's available there, sorry. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 01:03 PM |
| 1 | I'm a man goddamnit...Feminists say that's due to misogyny and a hatred of the feminine and that is readily disproved by the hatred for transsexuals and transvestites displayed by traditional ("second wave") feminist groups such as those on radfemhub. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 12:58 PM |
| 2 | I'm a man goddamnit...It is extremely important that not everyone who is different is shunted off into the "gay" or "trans" bins - even if the people doing the shunting are fine with gays and transsexuals. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 12:52 PM |
| 3 | I'm a mother, looking for a little advice to help my son enjoy schoolNo need to be too worried. Individually, most kids do OK. It's the big picture on average, and the ones who fall outside the system, that are the main issue. I have a recently school-aged child as well. One issue is whether one should sign them up for stuff that they have a talent and liking for, to build a sense of mastery, or whether it's better so shore up perceived weaknesses. I'm leaning to the first. | /r/MensRights | 26/07/12 08:34 AM |
| 2 | I have no idea if this is where I should put this but does anyone know somewhere a guy can talk to someone about having body image issues without being shamed by women for them?This is a good place to ask, but it probably isn't the place you seek itself. Do you mind disclosing your location? | /r/MensRights | 25/07/12 01:28 PM |
| 1 | "Invisible: The Unseen World of Male Prostitution" - kickstarter ending soonI just found this in the "ending soon" tab at kickstarter, and decided to support it, it looks like it touches on some pretty important men's right issues. It'd be nice if it made it over the limit. If not, at least one doesn't pay anything. Edit: it did pass the mark! | /r/MensRights | 25/07/12 08:46 AM |
| 1 | The ABC (Aus) looks into the bullshit around the "rape" accusations against Julian Assange.It's been speculated (one accuser AA worked at the Washington embassy for a while) but I haven't seen any evidence. | /r/MensRights | 24/07/12 07:50 AM |
| 2 | The Aurora Shooter: Who needs Feminists to stigmatize men when we have vagina-pedestaling MRAs and PUAs doing it for them?Of course it can, but it's far from the only thing that can. And even when sexual frustration is causing problems, it isn't necessarily the root of the problem. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 02:22 PM |
| 1 | The Aurora Shooter: Who needs Feminists to stigmatize men when we have vagina-pedestaling MRAs and PUAs doing it for them?Someone should do violence to that zombie of Sigmund Freud that's walking around. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 01:46 PM |
| 1 | The Aurora Shooter: Who needs Feminists to stigmatize men when we have vagina-pedestaling MRAs and PUAs doing it for them?People who care about something enough to go on a planned killing spree (whatever bizarre thing this guy cared about) would probably not care about breaking up in preparation for it. Sure, if he cared more about a girlfriend, he might not have done it. But if he cared more about a pony, he wouldn't have done it either. Point is, for someone to plan out something like this they have to have very unusual cares and non-cares in the first place. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 01:44 PM |
| 1 | The Aurora Shooter: Who needs Feminists to stigmatize men when we have vagina-pedestaling MRAs and PUAs doing it for them?The scary thing about PUA is that they really believe in and embrace many of the hateful caricatures of men that various feminists have produced through the ages. It's not the first time in history that a demonized group has done this. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 01:39 PM |
| 2 | The Aurora Shooter: Who needs Feminists to stigmatize men when we have vagina-pedestaling MRAs and PUAs doing it for them?One word: Ego. | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 01:35 PM |
| 3 | The Aurora Shooter: Who needs Feminists to stigmatize men when we have vagina-pedestaling MRAs and PUAs doing it for them?Also worth mentioning: just because someone says sexual frustration is what drives them bonkers, doesn't mean they're right. There's a very annoying blogger in Norway right now, a right winger who praises ABB and advocates killing police officers of our "feminist state" in between embarrasing rants about how it's lack of sex which makes him feel like this. Predictably, left wingers are pointing to him, trying to explain that this is what the sinister "men going their own way" movement that you m… | /r/MensRights | 23/07/12 01:33 PM |
| 10 | SRSers discuss how best to sell MRAs on feminism.But that's what privilege means! It means you must accept their interpretation of reality without question, because in it, you're incapable of accepting through it through rational means. But it is true. (The distrurbing thing is that this isn't entirely a parody; there are some feminists of the SRS variety who could sign onto that statement). | /r/MensRights | 29/06/12 01:36 PM |
| 4 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMYeah, your point is? For breast cancer screenings, it was ninety percent, and that was just the false positives that went on to treatment: http://summaries.cochrane.org/CD001877/screening-for-breast-cancer-with-mammography | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 12:44 PM |
| 1 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMI'm no expert on US health insurance, but I observe car insurance is allowed to discriminate on gender. Is there any reason the previous insurance system wouldn't discriminate in similar ways? | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 11:48 AM |
| 2 | Why tomorrow is a BIG day for the MRMAll sorts of mass screenings are widely criticized on these grounds. Breast cancer screenings seem to be more resistant to the claims of researchers who say they're counterproductive, for some reason. | /r/MensRights | 28/06/12 11:46 AM |
| 1 | German court rules that circumcision of boys for religious reasons is illegalJehovah's witnesses received church status in Germany in 2005. The problem for them weren't that they are a commercial organization (they aren't, Scientology arguably is) but that they were perceived as using "totalitarian methods". | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 01:27 PM |
| 4 | German court rules that circumcision of boys for religious reasons is illegalGermany is heavy immigrated by turks and other middle-eastern refugees. Turkish immigrants to Germany aren't usually refugees, except for Kurds. | /r/MensRights | 26/06/12 01:22 PM |
| 0 | An Issue I Haven't Seen Discussed HereFeminists view "equality" to mean "equality of outcome". The people here view "equality" to mean "equality of opportunity" It's not that simple. We do not dismiss men's higher suicide rate, for instance, although that's just an example of an outcome disfavorable to men. Nor do we say "men overrepresented in prison? No problem!". Outcomes matter. The real question is whether the outcomes in question really are all that desirable/different. | /r/MensRights | 21/06/12 12:37 PM |
| 15 | My College surprised me today."Men going their own way" = Men deciding to live life the way they want, without concern for female approval or companionship. Meaning they might e.g pursue a geeky hobby into adulthood at expense of a career and dating. People who do it rarely identify as MGTOW, but it's implied that they are more or less OK with the tradeoff. If they aren't, it's more customary to use the label Forever Alone. | /r/MensRights | 20/06/12 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Scholarships for white malesI understand that US colleges treat preferentially those who have parents who went to the same college? It shouldn't be necessary to point out what a disaster that is for social mobility. Compensating for it with a scholarship program for non-hereditary students I think is a poor option - they should instead abolish the preferential treatment of alumni children altogether. But if alumni provide funding... I can see the logic, but it's a tragic situation. | /r/MensRights | 19/06/12 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Scholarships for white maleshere you see if being privileged in one area also meant you were likely to be privileged in another Sure, you're likely. But what if you're not? Then you're as bad off as anyone else - if not worse, as the things in place to help people in your situation tend to explicitly exclude you for your race. it seems that white people on average have better social mobility than others. The key word is on average. It's scant consolation for those white individuals who can expect little social mobility, th… | /r/MensRights | 19/06/12 10:34 AM |
| 2 | Scholarships for white malesNo, you just go out and talk to a member of a communist party. Some are misguided, some are just plain bad people. But a defining attribute of a communist is that he's happy with the label, so in general, people right-wingers call communists aren't communists. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/12 02:32 PM |
| 2 | Scholarships for white malesYou've probably not met a bona-fide communist in your life. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/12 02:05 PM |
| 6 | Scholarships for white malesActually, the answer may well be yes. Because these overrepresented white students are probably something else besides white - such as the children of well-educated parents. Most scholarships are heavily tied to performance, as far as I know, and that naturally advantages those who are already advantaged, e.g. doctors' children. If you can target the scholarship to something like parents' education level, it may well be worthwhile to make one for whites (in addition to the ones that exist that t… | /r/MensRights | 18/06/12 02:05 PM |
| 23 | /v/'s summary of the "Tropes vs. Women in Video Games" kickstarter, and all the fuzz about it.You have no way of knowing that. Except what the contributors write in comments on the Kickstarter... | /r/MensRights | 18/06/12 07:34 AM |
| 26 | /v/'s summary of the "Tropes vs. Women in Video Games" kickstarter, and all the fuzz about it.I mean that people aren't funding it because it's a project they want to see. Isn't that clear enough? They are funding it to signify ideological allegiance. (If they were just interested in seeing the films, they'd stopped at $6000.) Which is fair enough, if it wasn't for that they were shamed into it (to signifiy that they aren't "the bad sort of men" that the vlogger highlights and complains about). Kickstarter actually disallows ideological fundraisers. | /r/MensRights | 18/06/12 07:20 AM |
| 1 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!Fair enough. It's been clear for a while (to me anyway) that companies like Gawker don't give a hoot about feminism, except as a way to exploit peoples' sentiments for profit. | /r/MensRights | 17/06/12 05:29 PM |
| 0 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!The mods over in r/gaming aren't allowing this to be posted and discussed Good, because in all likelihood this is a troll, and they count on getting enough attention to fool at least some people to give them money. | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:32 PM |
| 0 | Fight back! Sexism exists for males too, support these men in their expose of gender tropes in video games!This guy has it right. I don't feel this is worthy of our time and money, frankly. Especially since This project is anonymous, and It's probably trolls (see 1.) thinking they can make money from their trolling by imitating this kickstarter project | /r/MensRights | 15/06/12 12:31 PM |
| 1 | Dr. Warren Farrell gives a physical demonstration about why men earn more than women and the supposed "wage gap."There's a reason he's not with NOW any more. | /r/MensRights | 01/06/12 10:06 AM |
| 2 | Dr. Warren Farrell gives a physical demonstration about why men earn more than women and the supposed "wage gap."Even the most ruthless propagandists can benefit from advancing a couple of good cases, especially if they happen to be compatible with their overall ideology. The CATO institute does much good, too. They occasionally work with the ACLU, and are highly critical of expanded police powers, the drug war, etc. They also have some ideologically motivated positions that don't easily fit into any box, such as their support for immigration. But, expect them to spend what goodwill they build primarily on… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/12 10:05 AM |
| 12 | Presentation at My SchoolIt absolutely does happen that husbands take charge of the finances to such a degree that wives doesn't get to participate, or build their skills, even though they want to. But it is rare these days, because most men are conscious of it and see why it is bad - thanks to feminism, mostly. What is not rarer, is wives similarly taking charge of traditionally female domains, to the degree that husbands don't get to participate. For some, like cooking, it's not such a big deal. For others, such as so… | /r/MensRights | 01/06/12 09:08 AM |
| 1 | Political imprisonment of radical MRAs in Brazil (Portuguese, translation in text)So why say he's an mra in the title, why would you claim him as one of us? To make MRAs look bad by association to such people? | /r/MensRights | 31/05/12 11:35 AM |
| 9 | Dear Feminist Lurkers: Here is a well-spoken woman sticking her neck out to oppose misandry that she appropriately calls a "witch hunt." This is a good example of someone standing for the dignity of both sexes.Yeah, good thing she's calling this out. There's still an elephant in that room she doesn't appear to notice: This is an extremely traditional way for women to wield power. If you remember primary school, or have been in contact with primary school recently, you'll know that where boys use overt physical bullying, girls use more subtle forms of ostracism. Women. wield. social. power. In particular, the social power to shame and ostracize, to set the bounds for what consitutes acceptable and mand… | /r/MensRights | 24/05/12 08:07 AM |
| 1 | "What to Expect When You're Expecting" movie - surprisingly honest discussion of men's issuesIt was apparently better, they had to take away some of the circumcision stuff to keep it in the desired age bracket. It was linked to here on r/mr: http://ww.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/tpl9z/cameron_diaz_on_circumcision/ | /r/MensRights | 23/05/12 07:46 AM |
| 19 | No, I will not "grow a pair"From the comments: Gay people are more likely to commit suicide than straight people - do we say "gay people don't talk" "gay people need to admit their weaknesses"......? No we say "what are the barriers that gay people face to accessing support services and how can we address those barriers to help them get equal access to those services.....hey, maybe we should fund a special service targeting gay people so we can tailor services in a way that responds to our needs" Rather than tellign men wh… | /r/MensRights | 22/05/12 11:04 AM |
| 1 | Students oppose men's centre on campusYeah. Back when I studied, it used to be the case that psychology was an open study on the undergraduate level (so anyone who wanted to study it, could) but the vocational study/graduate study was extremely exclusive. Since you needed the latter to work with psychology in any professional manner, it effectively became a "dump study" on par with folkloristics: something the vast majority study to be students, not to actually go anywhere with it. | /r/MensRights | 21/05/12 04:40 AM |
| 1 | "A room with a PS3 and a bunch of douchebags sitting around playing games?"If it's hierarchal enough, I suppose. Stuff like this proposed Men's Centre doesn't sound like it would be. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 09:23 PM |
| 1 | "Women are often living their husband's emotional lives for them, protecting them, not expecting much of them--and then divorcing them for living up to those low expectations."I think they're talking about a specific type of man one that as they say, has certain aspects of his life run by his wife I certainly was in that category. But did I have any choice? Not really. I had used to do the aspects of my life in question myself, and I wanted to keep doing it, but she wasn't happy with how I did them. And every time I tried to be assertive about it, she quickly escalated. I bet most men who seem to be in this situation are, equally, not there by their own choice. Who wa… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 11:31 AM |
| 2 | "Women are often living their husband's emotional lives for them, protecting them, not expecting much of them--and then divorcing them for living up to those low expectations."Carter says that only her long-term feminism enabled her to see through to the heart of the problem ... and concoct a fantastic explanation that blames men. Yes, I'm sure her long-term feminism was what made this possible. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 11:17 AM |
| 1 | Morgan Spurlock: "Men now are made to feel as insecure as we’ve made women feel for decades"I didn't even consider the possibility that means men as a group exclusively with that. I read "we" as in "society". The passive form ("Men now are made...") further suggests he's not in general out to throw blame on anyone. A more serious issue is that he looks at a typically female insecurity problem and applies it to men. Sure, there are men who feel insecure with their bodies - as there are men who suffer breast cancer. But looking at that exclusively is missing the elephant in the room. Sur… | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 11:10 AM |
| 2 | "A room with a PS3 and a bunch of douchebags sitting around playing games?"Thing is, just because someone has been indoctrinated, doesn't mean the indoctrination is going to stick. I see it a lot. Feminist-started "men's resource center" start off with anger management courses for men, think that's what they're going to do most of... after a few years of encountering men in the real world and their real problems, they're more like they could need those courses themselves. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 10:55 AM |
| 3 | Hi mens rights: Diversity of opinion and the Male Gaze.I wish I had this gaze super power they speak of. Alas, my raised eyebrow is unlikely to send anyone to the emergency ward. | /r/MensRights | 18/05/12 07:29 AM |
| 9 | Cameron Diaz on CircumcisionIt's always so heartening when such superstars display unusual common sense. Go, Cameron Diaz! Register her! Register her as a brave spokesperson for boys' rights! | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 11:54 AM |
| 2 | UK - black boys are a 168 times more likely to be excluded from schoolYou can find the full report here: www.childrenscommissioner.gov.uk/force_download.php?fp=%2Fclient_assets%2Fcp%2Fpublication%2F561%2FFINAL-_OCC_School_Exclusions_Inquiry_Report.pdf Choice quote: The strongest predictor of being excluded from school, either permanently or on a fixed-term basis, is having a SEN [special educational need], particularly at a School Action Plus level. This is followed by being Black Caribbean (for permanent exclusions) or being male (for fixed-term exclusions). Have… | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 11:27 AM |
| 5 | Straight White Male: The Lowest Difficulty Setting There Is! /sarcIt's sad to see brainwashing on such a level. When a guy points out that socioeconomic class is a rather more important factor than sex, he basically claims that men have chosen it to be that way (money is just their "dump stat"). | /r/MensRights | 16/05/12 09:14 AM |
| 1 | The abusive wife who left me to dieSame story, two independent tabloids, two years between them, nothing outlandish - I think it's unreasonable to claim that it didn't happen. Even when tabloids do write crazy stuff, it's more often a crazy interpretation of something that happened, rather than just making up something out of whole cloth (there are those that do that too, like the onion, but they aren't considered actual newspapers.) | /r/MensRights | 14/05/12 07:56 PM |
| 1 | My wife is being charged with assault and I have been left with our daughterI would like to add: The goal is to get a solution that is the best for your children, and you should realise (you probably do realise) that this almost certainly involves the children having some contact with their mom. As well as a father who can feel safe against violence and false accusations - you're not supposed to sacrifice your life for your children, and that wouldn't help them either. I don't have any experience with Canadian child protective services, but what experience I have with s… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/12 03:11 PM |
| 1 | My wife is being charged with assault and I have been left with our daughterWill it be at all grounds for me having custody of a child in a divorce settlement? First you must tell us which jurisdiction you're in, then. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/12 03:00 PM |
| -4 | I calmly state why Men's Rights Advcocacy is neccessary and get hit with insults to my character and mass down votes. This shit is ridiculous, and shows why this sub is so important.Really, REALLY? If you're in the business of trolling, who says you're not just calling in one of the many bot networks which have been exposed lately? Trolls are unimportant. This is a non-event. You are a non-event. Go away. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/12 02:01 PM |
| 3 | The abusive wife who left me to dieYes, it's a tabloid - and the angle they have on it is "You know, this thing that happened in that soap opera last thursday - that really happens in real life sometimes!". That's a bit sad. But it doesn't detract from Kieron Bell's story. And it is a very good thing that The Daily Star links to an organization helping male victims of domestic abuse. | /r/MensRights | 14/05/12 01:31 PM |
| 11 | Saw this in /r/pics, but I feel it needs to be here to, for all the single father's in /r/Mensrights, hopefully I become the man you are.In any given case, a single parent may be excellent. But statistically, children are better off with two parents. As to gays, there's really not comparable data to say anything for sure, but of course they should get the benefit of doubt (i.e. we shouldn't assume same sex parents do worse). As long as most gay parents are conscious about letting their children see good role models of both genders (as they are today), I don't think there will be any significant long-term problems. The one excepti… | /r/MensRights | 14/05/12 08:04 AM |
| 5 | Two week old baby dies after circumcisionThis is, as far as I know, the first time it's happened in Norway. I saw it as a notice on the front page of Aftenposten yesterday. At least that is something, that such things happening get front page attention. It's a small country. Like how in a small town, a burglary may become a comparatively large story, so this tragedy may avoid getting drowned out. There has been a debate in the Norwegian blogsphere about circumcision. But, since so few are circumcised here, few are willing to either def… | /r/MensRights | 13/05/12 09:24 AM |
| 4 | What in the heck is this? (a subreddit called beatingwomen is linking here)Most posters here aren't regulars, probably most upvoters aren't either. It's probably the trolls trying to stir up outrage over themselves. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/12 07:33 AM |
| 3 | What in the heck is this? (a subreddit called beatingwomen is linking here)You sure have posted this link to the new asshole subreddit of reddit many times. Yes, there's a shiny new subreddit where the same old assholes can operate from, without drawing attention to their old haunts (which have now decided to go semi-respectable - apparently the perpetual hypocrisy accusation from reddit at large finally got to them.) It does not matter what the leering buttheads of the neighborhood currently call themselves. | /r/MensRights | 13/05/12 07:30 AM |
| 7 | What in the heck is this? (a subreddit called beatingwomen is linking here)Most of the people posting here aren't regulars. Gee, I wonder why? | /r/MensRights | 13/05/12 07:23 AM |
| 1 | I'm fucking terrified.Women use this excuse all the time to deny men custody/visitation. Truth is, a child at that age (9 or 13, it's a bit unclear from the post) isn't stupid. If they don't know, it can be explained to them. But even if they are in for a rude awakening when weekday parent isn't quite like weekend parent, so? they're still better off for it. It's a learning experience, they probably get a more realistic image of both parents, and we have solid evidence that shared custody is better for the child. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:31 PM |
| 5 | There ought to be a law against this.And who would want to hang out with men? eww! (Except me of course. I'm not like other men. People should like to hang out with me.) /s | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:22 PM |
| 13 | There ought to be a law against this.Another offensive way of framing it (not that it is without truth) is that they expect the women to pay the larger part of their tickets in natura by looking desirable, flirting and having sex. I think I'd be offended at that. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:19 PM |
| 5 | There ought to be a law against this.Most salons charge a woman and a long-haired man the same, IME, but surprisingly not all do. I know one that has differently priced long, medium, short for men, and long, medium, short for women. But the fact that feminists are not (commonly) up in arms about this, suggests that women expect rather more of their hairdressers. It is an individual service, after all, so there's room for it (unlike at a concert). | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:16 PM |
| 8 | There ought to be a law against this.Edit to add: and if you want to run a white/black-only business, it's not that hard. You simply need to set up a certain environment/demographic that makes outsiders feel very unwelcome. And this is legal, and happening. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:12 PM |
| 9 | There ought to be a law against this.Plus, on youtube you get the comments, entertainment at a much higher quality and level of intellectual sophistication. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:11 PM |
| 12 | There ought to be a law against this.Sad truth is, if they do this to appear "classy" and manipulate the social desirability of their place, a good ol'fashioned transsexual is probably the last thing they want. So go ahead and ruin their efforts :) | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 09:10 PM |
| 6 | I'm fucking terrified.There's a non-trivial chance this is a troll, unfortunately. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 12:27 PM |
| 3 | I'm fucking terrified.Merely having been destitute is no good argument against shared parenting. If she's not psycho (and I doubt she is, if your daughter wants to live with her), shared parenting will be best for your daughter, even if mom isn't ideal. I advise avoiding a lawsuit if at all possible. Don't create any loyalty conflict for your daughter unless you can possibly avoid it. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 10:33 AM |
| 2 | Studying for social problems....you serious?You can't believe the History channel. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 07:22 AM |
| 3 | Studying for social problems....you serious?I guess if it was "conscious", I've known all along? Good point. So any man who reads this, believes it and feels sympathetic to it immediately catches himself in a contradiction. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 07:20 AM |
| 11 | So, these "dude tips" are all over UCLA. By the Bruin Feminists for "Equality"You know, posting a version of that might not be the worst response. But be prepared for an utter shitstorm if you do, of course. | /r/MensRights | 09/05/12 07:17 AM |
| 15 | German study shows, boys are "massively" discrimiated in German schools (link is in German, sorry)But the same study shows that women are still discriminated against in the job market. That is maybe not so surprising, if boys get lower grades for the same level of competence. If boys seem to perform better than their grades suggest, employers might well notice. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/12 12:09 PM |
| 8 | German study shows, boys are "massively" discrimiated in German schools (link is in German, sorry)Some Google-translate assisted translation here (my German is rusty): The Halle education researcher Jürgen Budde came to the conclusion in the report that boys in all subjects get lower grades than their girl classmates with the same competence. Even if they have the same grades as girls, the teachers more rarely advise them to seek Gymnasium [the secondary school type for German kids who plan to get higher education]. | /r/MensRights | 08/05/12 12:06 PM |
| 3 | If a safe, temporary libido-depressing drug was on the market, would you ever use it? Would you have used it, say, in high school?Be serious. They've got the science on their side, if you follow their links. The desire to look at pictures of naked women of which you speak is heavily modulated by whether the naked women in question look interested or not. The fact that plenty of cultures in warmer areas don't cover those parts (as they do cover their genitals) should in addition be mute evidence that the biological part of the fetish isn't that strong. | /r/MensRights | 06/05/12 08:25 PM |
| 16 | Feminist elementary school teacher brags about how he discriminates against his male studentsExactly this. The kids can basically draw three conclusions: The girls are weak/dumb/helpless, because in our society we usually try to help the weak. The girls are superior creatures, because in our society we also sometimes let the "best" (according to various criteria) get the good things. The teacher is a bigoted idiot. Oh, how I hope they take lesson 3. | /r/MensRights | 05/05/12 01:28 PM |
| 1 | Feminist elementary school teacher brags about how he discriminates against his male studentsFeminists were smart to conquer education (especially YOUNG education). It's one of the things it would be worthwhile getting documentation on. I'm pretty sure this has been a deliberate effort in some times and places. I can't say 100% for sure feminists did it, but I know that in my country, communists did it - and there was big overlap between hardcore feminists and communists, largely because the latter had infiltrated the former. The communist party had "activity duty", which basically mean… | /r/MensRights | 05/05/12 01:24 PM |
| 2 | Idaho senator's answer to bullying? School boys should "settle their differences in a boxing ring" and "our males are being feminized." x-post from /r/BoiseIt's here, but sadly the link to the actual study seems broken at the moment. It was a systematic review comparing over 80 bullying intervention programs. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/12 07:24 PM |
| 3 | Idaho senator's answer to bullying? School boys should "settle their differences in a boxing ring" and "our males are being feminized." x-post from /r/BoiseOn one hand she gets points for calling out the feminizing of our boys I don't think so. If this is what he thinks of as boys being manly, I don't want my sons to be manly. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/12 02:28 PM |
| 5 | Idaho senator's answer to bullying? School boys should "settle their differences in a boxing ring" and "our males are being feminized." x-post from /r/BoiseBullying is not a difference of opinion between two equals. In fact, by definition bullying is agression where one party can't resist or fight back effectively. If it's between equals, it's a conflict, not bullying. There is dramatic evidence that using conflict solution methods in a bullying situation actually makes it worse. | /r/MensRights | 04/05/12 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Second wave Feminist caught lying again.....on pictureAgreed. The image we have of gender relations in the past is full of cliches and distortions. That has to be faced in other for things to improve, for both men and women. It couldn't be more on topic. (although the headline is stupid, I agree. ) | /r/MensRights | 03/05/12 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Need a Safe Space to VentThis isn't exactly a safe space, but at least the regulars will be sympathetic. | /r/MensRights | 03/05/12 12:35 PM |
| 6 | You know what I like about this subreddit?The MR-hating anarchy subreddit is /r/anarchism. Though it's been very quiet from that front lately. They seem to have been out-dramaed and out-assholed by so many other subreddits these days... Alanna, I presume you meant r/anarchism? But none of the well-known names from r/anarchism turn up from SRS. It could be that they've just switched accounts, of course, but it's peculiar that they all should do so. They certainly share a lot of attitudes (about "safe spaces" and "anti-oppression policy" … | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Interesting case in Norwegian media recentlyNorway, not Sweden. And yes, she wanted new interviews with the child. You can read between the lines that she's damn certain the child was abused. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 04:41 PM |
| 1 | Question: I've been reading a bunch of threads about men bringing up another man's baby (because the wife cheated). Do you think it's fair for men to request a paternity test when they have a baby, just by default, to make sure they're not wasting their money/time raising another man's child?without justification. Hold on. The justification I've explained to you at length. If it is done "as standard" or "by default" then that means there will be cases where it is being done without justification. When you vaccinate a child it's to protect them from something bad - a disease. Maybe the child wouldn't have caught the disease anyway. This doesn't mean wanting to protect the child wasn't justified. When you do a paternity test, you protect the child (and the father) from something bad -… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 12:26 PM |
| 2 | Interesting case in Norwegian media recentlyThis was the one that originally broke the story: http://www.dagbladet.no/2012/04/29/nyheter/politikk/innenriks/inga_marte_thorkildsen/sv/21360962/ Worth pointing out that at the time she intervened in the case, she was only a parliamentarian, not a minister. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 09:17 AM |
| 3 | Egalitarian feminist refutes the “Equal Pay Day” MythAn interesting thing here is that social services, teaching and health care (at least on the level of registered nurse) typically require a degree. Working in construction, manufacturing or trucking typically does not. You'd therefore expect the former to be better compensated. On the other hand, construction, manufacturing and trucking has far more opportunities for entrepreneurship, and especially in countries that the US that are highly entrepreneur-friendly, this can often be a way to higher… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 07:24 AM |
| 3 | Egalitarian feminist refutes the “Equal Pay Day” MythGenerally, men take mathematical and scientific careers which are seen as difficult. Not really. Yes, men are overrepresented in STEM fields, but not nearly as much as they are overrepresented in non-academic fields such as construction. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Egalitarian feminist refutes the “Equal Pay Day” MythI'm interested in hard facts about this. Many of the jobs that are most male dominated (e.g. truck drivers, forestry workers) aren't famous for being well compensated. Teaching and nursing don't seem too well compensated to me, though. I don't think increasing the pay of these fields would be a bad thing. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Egalitarian feminist refutes the “Equal Pay Day” MythDamn, I thought that was the International Worker's Federation. | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 07:11 AM |
| 28 | TIL that in 1993 Nine womens studies students posted fliers, with the names of random men who attend their college, around campus under the headline "Notice: These Men are Potential Rapists"Surely black men who are confident that they are not crack dealers wouldn't be affected by it! /s | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 06:32 AM |
| 1 | Question: I've been reading a bunch of threads about men bringing up another man's baby (because the wife cheated). Do you think it's fair for men to request a paternity test when they have a baby, just by default, to make sure they're not wasting their money/time raising another man's child?Oh, so it is just the act of taking a cheek swab and matching it against the father you object to. Tell me, do you object to blood samples or routine infant vaccination? Because They're more painful for the child If the medical personnel for some reason don't follow procedure, the child may well be hurt immediately or in the future. You realize that a full DNA profile is not necessary for a paternity test, and in any case it would be illegal for the medical personel to keep the information on fi… | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 06:19 AM |
| 1 | Interesting case in Norwegian media recentlyI'll update it if something new happens. But was there anything in particular you'd like to know? | /r/MensRights | 02/05/12 06:11 AM |
| 2 | Distinguishing Egalitarian from Partisan FeministsThe whole dichotomy is a bit spurious, I think. There are few egalitarian feminists who aren't at least slightly partisan (*cough* ozymandias *cough*) And there are few partisan feminists who openly admit to themselves that's what they are. But I do agree, that genuine egalitarianism in moderate/mainstream feminism has also done a lot of good. Sometimes to their surprise, it seems, by pursuing equality consistently and accepting the outcomes weren't as they expected. It is definitively true that… | /r/MensRights | 01/05/12 08:14 PM |
| 4 | Question: I've been reading a bunch of threads about men bringing up another man's baby (because the wife cheated). Do you think it's fair for men to request a paternity test when they have a baby, just by default, to make sure they're not wasting their money/time raising another man's child?If someone wants to violate their childs rights I'm not going to publically criticise them for doing it. Now that's just stupid. If the child's rights are indeed violated, you can and should speak out against it. But of course it is BS that the child's rights are violated. If children have a "right to not know" who their father is, why not demand the same "right" vis a vis mothers? Mandatory anonymous adoptions all around! | /r/MensRights | 01/05/12 07:55 PM |
| 12 | Question: I've been reading a bunch of threads about men bringing up another man's baby (because the wife cheated). Do you think it's fair for men to request a paternity test when they have a baby, just by default, to make sure they're not wasting their money/time raising another man's child?Not to mention female parentage! With this information, an adversary (perhaps an Orwellian police state) can identify the child's mitochondrial DNA, and a lot of information about e.g. exploitable genetic vulnerabilities. There is only one thing to do: When leaving the maternity ward, mothers should be assigned a random child born in approximately the same time frame, and all records of biological parentage must be destroyed! /swift | /r/MensRights | 01/05/12 07:52 PM |
| 7 | Question: I've been reading a bunch of threads about men bringing up another man's baby (because the wife cheated). Do you think it's fair for men to request a paternity test when they have a baby, just by default, to make sure they're not wasting their money/time raising another man's child?Not at all. The child gets the same information about who their biological father is as they already get about who the biological mother is. As long as we have official birth certificates registering this sort of thing, there is nothing further Orwellian about demanding the information on them to be accurate. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/12 07:49 PM |
| 8 | Question: I've been reading a bunch of threads about men bringing up another man's baby (because the wife cheated). Do you think it's fair for men to request a paternity test when they have a baby, just by default, to make sure they're not wasting their money/time raising another man's child?Yes, men are entitled to the same certainty about the biological parentage of their children as women get from nature. Not only should paternity testing be the default, a good reason should be required to opt out. It should be treated similarly to adoptive parents who for some reason demand to be shielded from knowledge about who the biological parents of their adopted child are - I can't imagine such requests being accommodated very often. But just as importantly, children have a right to know … | /r/MensRights | 01/05/12 07:47 PM |
| 3 | "How to spot a misogynist"Everyone has the right to say: "This is not a good faith effort. Goodbye!". That is making a judgement about the other party's intentions. It's not a logical argument per se, but it is nonethelss permissible and sometimes necessary. It is logical on the meta-level of the discussion. When she sneers at lethal diseases as something that "makes men sad" in the last point, that should be enough to infer that engaging this creature in discussion is not productive. | /r/MensRights | 01/05/12 10:16 AM |
| -1 | Will you guys and gals explain this new "cis" trend, and why its a bad thing?Crying because I was called male isn't one of them. Good to know you're a real man(tm). | /r/MensRights | 26/04/12 03:00 PM |
| -4 | Will you guys and gals explain this new "cis" trend, and why its a bad thing?Trend? It's just LGBT lingo. What's your question, exactly? | /r/MensRights | 26/04/12 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Deion Sanders (of NFL fame) showing that men are also victims of domestic violenceI don't typically agree with airing dirty laundry out in the public eye. You think he has a choice? You think his ex-wife wouldn't go to the media? I think she would. Maybe even with a story of abuse. Sanders is acting the way I expect - the way I have acted many times myself - in trying to document everything as soon as it happens and get it on record where it mattes. I don't know, maybe it's not what a lawyer would advise. But it's absolutely what a non-violent man does in such a situation. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 11:33 AM |
| 5 | Hi, mens rights...These gays. Don't know what's so "" about it. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 11:14 AM |
| 1 | Hi, mens rights...Well, like those gays said: It gets better. Usually. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 11:07 AM |
| 4 | Hi, mens rights...Countries that cooperate with extradition do not necessarily cooperate with alimony extraction, as far as I know. The problem with moving is of course that means not seeing the kids. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 11:05 AM |
| 5 | Hi, mens rights...Hope is kind of orthogonal to one's current situation. If you don't have roof over your head, but a good chance of getting it soon, you may be better off than one who has, but knows he will never have anything more (and might well lose what he has, too). | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 11:04 AM |
| 3 | Only one day after CNN's "Are men stupid?" article, CNN down plays seriousness of violence against men and children, claiming Deion Sanders' tweets are "bizarre".Don't confuse retalitation and self-defense. No one is allowed to use force in retalitation. | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Only one day after CNN's "Are men stupid?" article, CNN down plays seriousness of violence against men and children, claiming Deion Sanders' tweets are "bizarre".Sn R Sn ? | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 10:00 AM |
| 2 | Only one day after CNN's "Are men stupid?" article, CNN down plays seriousness of violence against men and children, claiming Deion Sanders' tweets are "bizarre"."I understand that I have very little chance at beating a Hall of Fame, two-sport man that everyone seems to love and adore," said Pilar Sanders, proclaiming her innocence. "I'm a full-time mom, 100% for my children," she said tearfully. "And I just haven't been given a fair shake." Holy cow, playing the damsel in distress card plus the long-suffering mother card? With good looks and a little sobbing, think she has a chance against a black athlete? | /r/MensRights | 25/04/12 09:58 AM |
| 8 | Men closing the life expectancy gap. This, of course, is misogynist.Not to mention their smoking and drinking habits. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/12 11:02 AM |
| 3 | How To Spread Our MessageLinking to specific documents on r/MRRef and r/mensrightslinks indirectly advertises the subreddit in a more effective way, I think. If you just link to the frontpage here, it depends a lot on how incisive the headline writers are today, or how efficient the trolls. | /r/MensRights | 23/04/12 08:21 AM |
| 9 | surrogate mother a couple hired decided to keep the baby, and is now suing the father for child support.Why not sue the biological mother as well? Surrogacy opens whole new economic opportunities! | /r/MensRights | 22/04/12 03:56 PM |
| 4 | Gentlemen, I don't know where else to turn. A girl posted this in askreddit and she is about to probably falsely accuse a boy of raping her.A rather important detail to leave out from the main post, I'd say. Suggests troll. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/12 11:59 AM |
| 13 | Gentlemen, I don't know where else to turn. A girl posted this in askreddit and she is about to probably falsely accuse a boy of raping her.Not an MRA version, just the troll (or someone too similar to matter). That the OP "forgets" to mention up front that she is 14, is pretty damming as I see it. The point of that post is to goad people into telling her to take some responsibility for her actions. | /r/MensRights | 22/04/12 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Pro-Male Genital Mutilation campaigner and Head of Circumfetishist group Gilgal Society caught with child pornography videosTypical r/atheism post. "The pyramids weren't even built in the same period!". Duh, I suppose that disproves the part of the bible where it says ancient israelites built the pyramids. Oh wait, that doesn't exist! Quickly googled, dubious sources - genetic evidence that no Israelite ever dallied with an Egyptian? That would be fairly miraculous, since I don't know if you noticed, but they're neighbours down there! (btw, if you believed that, read up on the Hyksos. We don't know that they had anyt… | /r/MensRights | 22/04/12 06:46 AM |
| 1 | /r/shitredditsays_/ (note the underscore)...another subreddit dedicated to trolling /mr. that's...what...5 now? and this one is modded by the Eschat troll himself...He's not "from" SRS in that he isn't one of the archangelles, or the other old-timers. He's from SRS in that he posted there, and was (at least initially) quite popular there. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/12 03:26 PM |
| 7 | What does MR think of the sexist abuse discussed on 2xc?It's interesting, but it needs to go from anecdotes to something that can be quantified. What the OP describes - same submission, one lingers at 0, one catapults to 400+ - if you think sexism is the most plausible explanation for that you haven't been around reddit very long. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/12 03:17 PM |
| 1 | Long and descriptive comment about men "going Galt" (MGTOW), with specific examplesIf the Herbivores in Japan didn't think the system was entirely flawed, they wouldn't be dropping out of it. Oh they could be. They could have other reasons. They could, for instance, drop out of it because something they thought of as a flaw with themselves. I do not know to the degree this is the case with the herbivores, but they certainly don't seem like they are engaging in a boycott to punish society for its crimes/sins and "teach them their place", Galt-style. IME, most MGTOW ... Do not s… | /r/MensRights | 21/04/12 03:12 PM |
| 2 | Men More Likely to Return to Hospitals Soon After DischargeAha, so that was the reason for the downvotes! I followed the link from google news, that just let me right in. Scumbag medscape. I'll look for another link. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/12 09:23 AM |
| 6 | Long and descriptive comment about men "going Galt" (MGTOW), with specific examplesI think Ayn Rand is an awful metaphor for what MGTOW do. Most do not identify as such, have no bitterness against the system (equally likely to blame themselves as society), and are absolutely not engaged in any boycott to drive society to its knees. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/12 08:30 AM |
| -1 | Long and descriptive comment about men "going Galt" (MGTOW), with specific examplesTotally agree. The best parts of MGTOW culture I find are also made of men who have little or no bitterness to the world they can't fit into any longer. | /r/MensRights | 21/04/12 08:26 AM |
| 1 | Men More Likely to Return to Hospitals Soon After DischargeThere's a slight consolation hidden in this article: The Affordable Care Act contains provisions for funding that hospitals can use to coordinate postdischarge services and penalties for hospitals with higher rates of readmission. Hopefully, this may mean that although the ACA is bad at adressing men's health issues (understatement), hospitals get funding for postdischarge services, which they have an incentive to spend on these men's health issues. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 08:28 PM |
| 1 | so who else has been banned from troll subreddit /r/cantposthere?Please, don't draw attention to these idiots. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 07:03 PM |
| 5 | Men walk a mile in heels for women’s awareness. 300+ men wearing women’s high-heeled shoes tottered around campus to raise awareness for rape, sexual assault and sexual violence. Daniel Quincel, a first-year in engineering, said, “I really do respect women for wearing high heels.“There was a post recently about the organization behind these marches, and the close relationship they have to a company that produces the (oversized) high-heeled shoes in use. It was also alleged that the students in question are threatened with both collective and individual punishment unless they "willingly" participate. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 04:22 PM |
| 3 | Men will be paying more for insurance than they have in the past, yet receiving fewer preventive services than women, under the U.S. Affordable Care Act.This article isn't anti-MRM. GMP started off as anti-MRM, but they've changed a lot. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 01:55 PM |
| 4 | Men will be paying more for insurance than they have in the past, yet receiving fewer preventive services than women, under the U.S. Affordable Care Act.Looks like you accidentally got upvoted for criticizing the GMP. But in this case, they've produced something worthwhile. Or maybe you would like to explain why you find the article's statements on contraception and HPV testing "extremely dishonest"? | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Men will be paying more for insurance than they have in the past, yet receiving fewer preventive services than women, under the U.S. Affordable Care Act.Feckblog commented on it lately, that the Good Men Project have certainly changed to the better. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 01:51 PM |
| 1 | /r/shitredditsays_/ (note the underscore)...another subreddit dedicated to trolling /mr. that's...what...5 now? and this one is modded by the Eschat troll himself...SOBV's style, however, is pretty indistinguishable from esch to me. It's just trying to muddy the waters. Odds are they are the same, and if they aren't, esch sure as hell doesn't deserve the benefit of doubt after what he's done. In fact, if it appears to matter to him - and it does - I suggest we all just assume they're the same. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 11:55 AM |
| 1 | /r/shitredditsays_/ (note the underscore)...another subreddit dedicated to trolling /mr. that's...what...5 now? and this one is modded by the Eschat troll himself...Eschatology then started running around frantically responding to every allegation saying they'd never do something like that. This is the point it sucks to be a well-known opportunistic liar. We should assume escathology is sobv. Not only because it probably is, but because it annoys it. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Fraud conviction against transsexual man raises many questionsI'm saying "repayment", or anything coming after the gift, doesn't matter. If what comes before the gift involved deception, it's still a fraud. It doesn't matter that I "willingly" gave you money, expecting no compensation attaching no strings. If I did it when you were deliberately trying to deceive me in order to get money from me, that "willingly" is completely empty. | /r/MensRights | 20/04/12 05:33 AM |
| 1 | Fraud conviction against transsexual man raises many questionsI think sex is a sidetrack here. Repayment of any kind need not be involved, and it could still be a scam. Why should I love you and I'm in somewhat dire economic straits be any better than My mother is dying of cancer and I'm in somewhat dire economic straits ... if both mother dying of cancer and the love are fictions? If she managed to get 850000 SEK out of this racket (that's 125000 USD), I think I can confidently say the love is as much a fiction as any story she could make up. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 07:53 PM |
| 3 | Fraud conviction against transsexual man raises many questionsWhile not disclosing something like that is a big deal, it's not what makes it fraud. The 850000 SEK is what makes it fraud. You simply do not convince people to give you that much money unless you deliberately set out to deceive - or you are a puppy with cancer or something. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 03:08 PM |
| 1 | It’s Shit Like This Feminists… | GendErraticRegardless of the cause, there's clearly something wrong with boys/men and male culture in that country. If you don't mean in comparison to the culture as a whole, sure. But it's a bit like calling attention to the crimes black people in a desctructive social environment commit, when you know that white people in a similar environment behave just as badly. Yeah, you can say there's a problem with black culture in that part of town. It might even be true. But saying it wouldn't be helping. | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 08:01 AM |
| 3 | It’s Shit Like This Feminists… | GendErraticThere can be, at the very most, about 12% of women who are raping boys. That would mean one perpetrator for every victim. You ignore the possibility that one person can be the victim of more than one attacker. Since such a large share report being abused by both men and women, that sounds like it may not be reasonable. In the west, you'd expect each perpetrator to have multiple victims on average, rather than the other way around. But you can't assume that about South Africa, which plainly has s… | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 07:55 AM |
| 1 | It’s Shit Like This Feminists… | GendErraticAnd 2/5ths(that's 40%) of boys admit to having been raped, mostly by women. What perpetrators admit to and what victims claim are not really comparable. Of course, no one has probably thought to ask the corresponding question to women ("have you raped anyone?"). | /r/MensRights | 19/04/12 07:41 AM |
| 3 | When did this become a left vs right issue?Democrat is the noun, the adjective is Democratic... | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 04:38 PM |
| 3 | Black man jailed for nearly a year in rape that alleged victim recanted the day after making accusationUnless it did it from those accounts, don't trust it. It is a compulsive liar. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 12:43 PM |
| 2 | Wage gap? Height-ism is also a problem but this is not being propagated in the media as much as the male-female wage gap myth.I wonder if the wage gap figures we often see are corrected for height (women being shorter on average). | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 09:44 AM |
| 14 | Why the fuck, and on what grounds, was /r/MensRights labeled a hate group? I do not understand.Holy cow, you did screenshot this, right? | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 07:41 AM |
| 3 | We have seen how Sweden is the "model" of the feminist ideal. Does anyone know just how bad is it over there?I didn't say Sweden was perfect. Sweden is definitively not perfect for casual sex. Especially not casual sex with ambivalent Christian feminists without a condom, or high media-profile radical feminists who have previously worked at the embassy in Washington. (But this is a bad idea in any case). Notice that even there, the case was initially dimissed - it was not until a prosecutor with political connections revived the case that the circus started. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 07:39 AM |
| 20 | We have seen how Sweden is the "model" of the feminist ideal. Does anyone know just how bad is it over there?Maybe you shouldn't form your opinion of the situation in Sweden from one article that you don't recall well enough to link to. Many things are better in Sweden wrt. gender than in the US. For instance, alimony is virtually nonexistent. Traditional swedish feminism is of a different kind than the one in the English-speaking world. It's like with political parties: When you're in opposition, you can say what you want and get radical, but feminism in Sweden was closely connected to the powerful La… | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gapNo. Don't you get it? The CV may be a man's, or a woman's, but the response rates depend on what employers are told about the candidate's sex. | /r/MensRights | 18/04/12 04:44 AM |
| 9 | Can someone please show me where /r/MensRights is against treating women equally? I just don't understand this comment.And in particular, they do not identify very strongly with men as a group, if at all. They do not have class consciousness as men, to borrow a Marxist term. Male elites only helps men as a group when it happens as a side effect of helping themselves and their own limited class. That is not very often. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 04:44 PM |
| 2 | Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gapMy suggestion is that we should be aware that we may be biased in ways we don't know about (not just about race and sex), and as such we should try to blind ourselves from as many attributes as possible that are irrelevant to the candidate. E.g, get someone to edit out all gender and race revealing details from the submitted CVs before the people making employment decisions get to see them. In case there are other revealed attributed you're subconsciously selecting for, you should still choose r… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 01:48 PM |
| 1 | Avoiding the StereotypeHowever, if I'm not in those settings and I'm very nervous to interact with any child as the parents always seem so protective. Is there anyway to avoid this other than just ignoring the child? The best you can do is work for a better society. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 12:15 PM |
| 1 | German Secretary for Family Affairs, Kristina Schröder, authors book to oppose Feminism: epic shitstormIt makes sense that non-Americans (non-native English speakers at least) don't notice the negative connotations to "leftist". There's no obvious reason why it should mean something besides left-of-center. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gapWhen you randomize names on CVs, female names get lower response rates than male ones in some fields. That can't be racked up to biological differences. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 11:56 AM |
| 1 | Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gapThere is evidence of this for some fields. It's rather easy to study, just randomize the sex on a couple of real CVs, and ship them off to many potential employers. See what the response rate is. For some fields, women do get a lower response rate. So it's quite likely that women's skills are not trusted as well as men's in these fields. (Blacks seem to be less trusted in all fields, by the same studies). | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 11:49 AM |
| 1 | Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gapNot any longer. That stuff gets downvoted. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 11:44 AM |
| 2 | Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gapI think this is a sidetrack. We know that black people are discriminated against in hiring decisions across a wide range of jobs - there is solid statistical evidence of this. We do not know, however, how much this has to do with the systematic (intentional) oppression of earlier ages. Lots of formerly systematically oppressed people have gone on to do very well. I think a great solution, rather than quotas, is to encourage "blind auditions" like they have in orchestras (orchestras started emplo… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 11:42 AM |
| 2 | Obama revives an old feminist myth. "When more women are bringing home the bacon, but bringing home less of it than men who are doing the same work, that weakens families, it weakens communities, it’s tough on our kids, it weakens our entire economy.” Women victims of wage gapThing is, Collective82's civil engineer wife is almost certainly not as good as objectively evaluating merit as she thinks she is. Everyone think bias is something other people have, but again and again, we see that if you send in identical resumes to lots of companies with randomly associated black or white names/pictures, the white names and pictures get far more calls back, in the labor market generally. How do you propose we fix this injustice? Bad as quotas may sound, I think a mandatory ra… | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 11:30 AM |
| 6 | Brother's getting a divorce and his wife just beat him...Four-year old account, no posting history in SRS. Don't get paranoid, there's absolutely no reason to doubt this. | /r/MensRights | 17/04/12 08:14 AM |
| 3 | What few people talk about: How many men vs. women died on Titanic? Hint: 3rd class woman had a better chance of survival than a 1st class male.They shouldn't have to swim. They should have been first in the lifeboats. That is not how it works. It works like this: ship starts to sink, people rush for the lifeboats. The first to arrive at the lifeboats will probably be crew, then healthy, single men and women, then families and less mobile people. As the first to reach the lifeboats, you have a choice: Do you get in now, or do you wait, hoping that one more child (or woman!) will turn up before it's too late? On the Titanic, we know what… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/12 09:52 AM |
| 3 | What few people talk about: How many men vs. women died on Titanic? Hint: 3rd class woman had a better chance of survival than a 1st class male.You're forgetting that there are factors to survival other that whether you are let into a lifeboat. First, you need to wake up and get to the lifeboats, avoiding panic and avoiding other panicking people. Panic is an ugly thing. There was a lot of interesting discussion on this on Swedish men's rights blog after the recent study claiming that "women and children first" was the exception rather than the rule. Accounts from "Scandinavian Star", a disaster that many remember here, are sobering. In… | /r/MensRights | 16/04/12 09:46 AM |
| 1 | BBC News - Women first rule 'ignored in ship disasters' - studyNope, I haven't known about it until fairly recently. But yes, I think it's a great site :) | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 03:50 PM |
| 9 | Getting facts straight on the recent hoax/troll (sisterofblackvisions)Since you lie through your teeth every chance you get, do you expect us to really believe that poor little you is a victim of White Supremacists? We do not know your field is sociology. We don't know you're a student (frankly, I doubt it and for your sake I hope not). We do know, however, that you lie like a champ whenever it suits you and act as if you're perfectly entitled to it. Sorry bud, but it sucks to be a known liar. No one will have any sympathy for your "persecution". It's not a punish… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 01:11 PM |
| 16 | BBC News - Women first rule 'ignored in ship disasters' - studyPelle Billing's blog covered this story two days ago, there are some very interesting comments. In Swedish, of course, but I can translate particular comments someone wants it: http://www.pellebilling.se/2012/04/titanic-mer-undantag-an-regel-%E2%80%93-dock-bor-slutsatserna-nyanseras/ I take Ulf T's two comments first, as they are very good: Ulf T writes: 12 april 2012 kl 19:51 I wrote a comment about this on GenusNytt - two comments, actually. I can repeat them here: Very interesting report. It … | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 11:10 AM |
| 7 | BBC News - Women first rule 'ignored in ship disasters' - studyYeah, first saw that story on Pelle Billing's blog. A bit skeptical about this study. They make little effort to disentangle the survival rate that can be attributed to chivalry, and the one that can be attributed to strength/thinking quick in a crisis/other advantages men on ships might have. To take an example, they point to the diminishing gap in survival rates after 1940, and see this as evidence of "women's increased status". But ship safety improved a lot during the 20th century. You'd exp… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 10:43 AM |
| 16 | Getting facts straight on the recent hoax/troll (sisterofblackvisions)Nice timeline, but you need to emphasize one thing: black_visions was probably not a troll. He wanted to start a suicide-positive subreddit a la the old newsgroup alt.suicide.holiday, which he said he used to post on. There was a person with the nick black_visions posting to a.s.h, many years ago when that group was active. So if reddit's black_visions was a troll, he impersonated a genuinely suicidal usenet veteran. There's absolutely no reason to think so. So there's probably nothing ironic ab… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 08:47 AM |
| 4 | Someone tells a tragic story of why a man killed himself, several inconsiderate people reply with accusations of falsehood in a desperate attempt to trivialize the scenario. Imagine how the reaction would be to a rape story from a woman.Correction: Someone is posting a fake story about a man who killed himself after abused from an ex-wife. The "person" in the picture is a mannequin, and the poster also posted this (and later deleted it). The goal is to mine the comments for outraged statements of sympathy. to get reddit used to the idea that "story of abused man" = "probably fake" Think before you link, people. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 08:41 AM |
| 11 | There are A LOT of fake men's right related stories posted on reddit lately. Here's another one:You can see the modus operandi: They make up a sob story about a man being abused by a wife, ripped off for child support etc. generally facing the same problems we read about in this subreddit every day. Then this man supposedly does something controversial, e.g. punch his abusive girlfriend, commit suicide. Then the story is revealed as fake. The posters try to achieve two things: They want to get people (especially on the wider reddit) used to the idea that tragic story about man = probably f… | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 07:20 AM |
| 3 | The suicide of r/mr member "Black_Visions" was a hoax.Good timeline, but use bullet points ;) | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 06:46 AM |
| 2 | The suicide of r/mr member "Black_Visions" was a hoax.but it could involve some of the same players believe it or not. What makes you think that? | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 06:42 AM |
| 11 | The suicide of r/mr member "Black_Visions" was a hoax.NOT black_visions. Please do not propagate this belief, as the OP does. It's bad enough that the hoaxer used the suicide of an innocent 51 year old to manipulate r/mensrights, as if he shouldn't get to smear a suicidal person as well. There is nothing to suggest that the real black_visions has anything to do with the poster claiming to be his sister. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 06:40 AM |
| 8 | The suicide of r/mr member "Black_Visions" was a hoax.Whoever decided to use the death of the 51 year old man, must have been pretty confident that black_visions wouldn't come back and expose him. The post of sisterofblackvisions wasn't the first attempt either. As I recall, Qanan mentioned that he'd recevied anonymous links to a newspaper article, with a claim it was about black_visions. (Dammit qanan, why'd you have to leave? So hard to find the post now.) | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 06:37 AM |
| 2 | The suicide of r/mr member "Black_Visions" was a hoax.He's taking about the "Escathology" troll. I think that troll researched black visions, found out he either committed suicide (or at least would not be in a position to correct the claims), and tried - as he have many times recently - to make r/mr angry over a hoax. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 05:56 AM |
| 2 | The suicide of r/mr member "Black_Visions" was a hoax.I'll tell you what. Search the google groups archive of the group he mentioned for "black visions". | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 05:52 AM |
| 7 | The suicide of r/mr member "Black_Visions" was a hoax.But raindude is an SRSer, and he wants you to think so. | /r/MensRights | 13/04/12 05:48 AM |
| 12 | "SRS: The only subreddit with a death count."Two things: Dark_visions is a real person, who is definitively suicidal. He may well have gone through with it and succeeded this time. He is not, however, the 51 year old who jumped from an 8th floor in King Country. What black_visions has said publicly about himself does not match the information provided by his "sister". | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 08:58 PM |
| 3 | From the sister of black visions who committed suicide - a thank you to men's rightsBlack_Visions said from the start that he had been suicidal for a long time, and if you google him in the right way you can see that he has an established net identity. If this is a troll, I'm almost sure Black_Visions was not in on it. Which really makes you wonder. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 07:57 PM |
| 1 | From the sister of black visions who committed suicide - a thank you to men's rightsFixed. I thought I already had, but that was just the p's apparently :p | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 06:27 PM |
| 3 | From the sister of black visions who committed suicide - a thank you to men's rightsLife is all about risking to get hurt. (no, not rushing to get hurt, stupid autocorrect) | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 03:39 PM |
| 3 | German court rules: Women shouldn't be convicted of incest because of a timid personality structure. It's fine if men are, though.No one ever said here is no argument to forbid close relatives from having children. Only that those arguments are bad, and rejected in comparable cases. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 03:23 PM |
| 1 | German court rules: Women shouldn't be convicted of incest because of a timid personality structure. It's fine if men are, though.Careful now, the word incest is used to describe cases like this (where people who are biological siblings meet for the first time as adults and enter a relationship), but more often it's used about parents and elder siblings abusing children. You can very easily be quote-mined and made to look like a monster. I do agree it's an "ungeheuerlichkeit" (if I remember my German) that this poor man is in jail. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 03:20 PM |
| 3 | Curious what y'all think about gay divorce.I'm not trying to be mean but don't you think this is a bit unfair to post here only because you'll find a receptive audience for the one issue you care about? I for one don't mind. I think at the very least you should try to understand the issues we MRAs are concerned with, beyond RIC. I think it would be a good thing if he did, but there's really no obligation. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 08:55 AM |
| 3 | Curious what y'all think about gay divorce.Is anyone against gay divorce? Sounds pretty absurd to me. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 08:52 AM |
| 2 | Curious what y'all think about gay divorce.I thought for a moment you were speaking of the 1932 musical by Cole Porter. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 08:51 AM |
| 8 | From the sister of black visions who committed suicide - a thank you to men's rightsEh? You mean villain to SRS? LordGaga was not at all like SRS from what I saw of her - she seemed appalled at the meltdown of r/lgbt and the actions of its moderators, but generally very nonjudgmental. For a large part she was responsible for SubredditDrama not degenerating into something like SRS. | /r/MensRights | 12/04/12 07:47 AM |
| 5 | Study: Learned masculinity encourages stoicism and withstanding pain. Femininity associated with greater sensitivity to painful stimuli - contributes to a greater proportion of women rating their pain more severely than menMo' women, mo' pain. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 06:59 PM |
| 3 | What doctors don’t tell about circumcisionAfrica is a big place. They wouldn't try to mass-circumcize Botswana if they had much tradition for it there. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 06:55 PM |
| 2 | Can I ask what you all think about this? I have been a long time lurker/supporter, but this seems kind of horrible.Yeah, Paul Elam is his usual deliberately offensive self. (As if he doesn't know he'll never sit on a jury after having made a statement like that). But there's some context which the guys who pointed you to that article (assuming you're not just a concern troll here) don't want you to know. Do you know what rape shield laws are? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 03:11 PM |
| 4 | What doctors don’t tell about circumcisionAside from the physical effects, you got to wonder what the long term effects of the west's relations to Africa will be from craziness like this. I mean, many already thought condoms and AIDS medicine was a conspiracy of some sort to make them sterile, what will they think when it comes out they've been tricked into cutting their genitals for no good reason? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 11:48 AM |
| 0 | Anti-MRA David Futrelle to Teach Coeds How to Have Good SexGoing in Hugo Schwyzer's footsteps, is he? | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 09:52 AM |
| 9 | My School has decided to be fair; we already have a Womens Centre so this just makes sense.‘Traditional masculinity’ has been negatively portrayed as the cause of men’s poor health behaviours, but this portrayal risks: blaming the victim; undervaluing positive male traits; and alienating men in whom we seek to instill healthier behaviours. I love seeing people outside our community starting to "get it". Maybe there should be an inverse of "register her", praising men and women out in the wider society who do good things for men or speak up constructively for men. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 09:46 AM |
| 2 | My School has decided to be fair; we already have a Womens Centre so this just makes sense.It is highly likely that such a center would take time in being accepted and used by male students, and even when that happens, it can very well be the case that they end up using it less. It makes sense to start with a smaller scale project. In other cases, MRAs tend to focus on equality of opportunities rather than forcing equality of outcomes. This should go both ways; no need to throw more money at a project if it isn't used effectively as is. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 09:45 AM |
| 3 | /r/MensRights MUST avoid harassing behaviorI agree with that. If this guy is really studying "online narcissism", he's going to crash and burn without our help, no amount of feminist party-line toeing will save him from such utter incompetence and immaturity. He might even get into trouble with ethics panels. But it's a troll, so there's no more reason to believe he's studying anything than that he's at any particular university. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 09:10 AM |
| 1 | /r/MensRights MUST avoid harassing behaviorThis. We know that the troll posted false information about himself in order to try to stir up doxing drama. We know another troll (or the same) posted from a zero-day account offering to help with the doxing - trying to make it appear like it was accepted in here, hoping to drag more along. If Irrel_M isn't a troll, he's a "useful idiot" in Lenin terms. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 09:06 AM |
| 2 | /r/MensRights MUST avoid harassing behaviorAnd which the troll lied about. Something this one guy was quickly informed was likely. Frankly, this one guy was too stupid to believe. Since his account appears to be deleted now, I can't check to see how old it was, but I wouldn't be more surprised if it wasn't more "studying online narcissism" from mr. end-times. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 09:01 AM |
| 1 | /r/MensRights MUST avoid harassing behaviorAnd he's studying "online narcissism". Good lord, good thing he's not studying drug abuse, he'd be dead of an overdose already. | /r/MensRights | 11/04/12 08:59 AM |
| 1 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.I think that it is a dramatic form of social engineering, yes. For it to be effective, they would have to reach children at a very young age and shield them from ordinary conversation. They are actually taking steps in that direction. Though due to these adults' hypocrisy - they're expecting children to embrace a gender-independent identity, while they themselves are not willing to do anything of the sort - this project is going to fail miserably. And thank God, their willingness to use violence… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:46 PM |
| 1 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.One does not simply make up a new word to get rid of the old one's connotations. New words will be understood in terms of old ones - when it's a personal pronoun you're talking about, the best you can hope for is a generation (and it would have to be a generation of severe indoctrination - feminists don't have that kind of power in Sweden, much as they themselves and many MRAs would like to believe it). | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 12:36 PM |
| 1 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.Hen? Apparently not. That is wishful thinking. Just like you are going to use words from your native language to interpret words in a foreign language (unless you are extremely immersed and/or learned at a young age), people are going to understand what "hen" means in terms of words they already know, and the prime candidate here is "it". I suppose they think they can reach the kids before that happens. This stinks of utopian social engineering and canvas cleaning. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 12:29 PM |
| 1 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.Swedes tend to be rather comfortable in English, so I don't think this goes them by :) | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 08:19 AM |
| 2 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.No, it isn't. There are many things that are great about Sweden on gender: alimony is practically nonexistent, child support levels are reasonable, children's need for a father is taken quite seriously (though there is still some effective discrimination in custody disputes, it's nowhere near as bad as in the Anglosphere). Fathers aren't driven to crime in order to conceal their income from child support collectors. Sweden is a damn great place to be, and also one of the better places on the pla… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 08:17 AM |
| 1 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.All I know is I don't like any of the established political parties in existance. You at least have many more to choose from (and more genuine differences) than they have in the US. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 07:58 AM |
| 1 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.Frankly the loss of some precision seems like an easy sacrifice to make for removing gender roles. Maybe, but you just don't have that option in a living language. In English right now, if you adress someone like "it", they would be grossly insulted. Even if you could convince everybody to start adressing each other as "it" and not be offended, the context of "it" would probably carry with it negative context, and I wouldn't be surprised if people started treating each other more cynically (i.e.… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 07:57 AM |
| 2 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.You can't just ignore context. Some languages do not have gender specific personal pronouns, I understand. But that does not mean you can just mandate that Swedish shouldn't have them. Leaving out gender has a depersonalizing context in Swedish, because it's somewhat associated with inanimate objects. That word "hen" is going to get a content from its context, and it's not clear to me why it would be any better than suddenly referring to all the kids as "it". | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 07:51 AM |
| 2 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now.That depends on what the content of the new word "hen" really turns out to be. If they value traits classically considered feminine, and suppress traits traditionally considered masculine ... but feminists wouldn't really do that now, would they? /s | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 07:48 AM |
| 2 | "In Sweden, a debate over whether gender equality has gone too far": parents pushing back after schools promote the use of the neutral pronoun "hen" to refer to boys and girls now."hen" is not the gender neutral pronoun in Swedish, "det" is (same as "it"). But for some reason, people are reluctant to address their children as "it". They imagine they can make it less uncomfortable by making up a new word that means "it". Pelle Billing has been good at calling out the hypocrisy of demanding of our kids something we would never demand of adults. If they really wanted to raise gender neutral kids, the would-be reforming kindergarten teachers should conceal their own gender an… | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 07:46 AM |
| 7 | "There Is No Such Thing As Misandry..."More humanities laws: the longer someone has been dead, the more leeway you have to caricature their ideas in order to compare your own favorably to them. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 07:38 AM |
| 4 | This article is making me seriously reconsider whether MRAs/MGTOWs should associate with A Voice For Men.It does highlight the perverse incentives that keep social misery going. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 06:51 AM |
| 6 | This article is making me seriously reconsider whether MRAs/MGTOWs should associate with A Voice For Men.I don't think he's advocating anyone actually doing the raping. Of course he's not, he's just doing his usual talk radio host routine. He's slipping into Rush Limbaugh territory where he cares less about what comes out of his mouth, as long as it provokes the right kinds of outrage in the right kinds of people. Kyle Lovett took his articles down from AvfM. I'm not telling you what to do, but you might want to consider your options as well if he goes on like this. It's a shame, because there are … | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 06:44 AM |
| 6 | This article is making me seriously reconsider whether MRAs/MGTOWs should associate with A Voice For Men.I wish Paul Elam would lay off the talk radio style. It's suitable for politicians who want a readily directable angry mob and don't care about polarizing. It's not suitable for someone trying to change society's attitudes on a wide level. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 05:00 AM |
| 3 | This article is making me seriously reconsider whether MRAs/MGTOWs should associate with A Voice For Men.Throwaway designed to target one particular non-anonymous user? Let's throw you away, coward. | /r/MensRights | 10/04/12 04:55 AM |
| 5 | Female African anthropologist supports female Genital cutting, shows the similarities to male cutting (male circumcision)I'm circumcised, and it's just fucking fine. In fact, it's probably a little better. Did you miss the part where women who are cut often say the same thing? Female "circumcision" generally results in pain, lack of sexual pleasure, and more diseases and infection. Apparently you did. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/12 11:26 AM |
| 2 | Fuck everything about this.Looks fake. Uses "in the friendzone" in some very wrong places compared to where a genuine bigoted female would use it. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/12 10:38 AM |
| 1 | First we compare men unwilling to go down to Asperger's patients and then to children complete with "little asswad" and photo.OK, but it was edited two days ago. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/12 10:26 AM |
| 1 | First we compare men unwilling to go down to Asperger's patients and then to children complete with "little asswad" and photo.You should read the post, not just look at the headline. He switched the genders around as an experiment. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/12 09:49 AM |
| 1 | First we compare men unwilling to go down to Asperger's patients and then to children complete with "little asswad" and photo.The girl. But yes. | /r/MensRights | 09/04/12 08:34 AM |
| 3 | First we compare men unwilling to go down to Asperger's patients and then to children complete with "little asswad" and photo.This belongs more in subredditdrama than here... I did enjoy the guy's gender swapping, interesting to see if people regret their words now (my guess is people would really be a lot more tolerant of a woman demanding "equal favors back" and less likely to call it Asperger's!) | /r/MensRights | 08/04/12 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Feminist mistakes rape in a webcomic page and calls the author a "misogynist pile of shit ". After she realizes she was wrong she refuses to apologize and suggests he "change" anyway. Transcript inside.I agree bad writing shouldn't be prohibited. But it should be OK to call out also. I think it's clear that Six kills the child to save it from growing up in a post-nuclear holocaust world. It's not even to show she's entirely evil, it's in line with the "hard decisions" theme rampant through the series. But I couldn't have thought of a more heavy-handed way to show it. Turned me off from the series completely. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/12 09:13 AM |
| 3 | Feminist mistakes rape in a webcomic page and calls the author a "misogynist pile of shit ". After she realizes she was wrong she refuses to apologize and suggests he "change" anyway. Transcript inside."I need to get this character established as totally evil as soon as possible. Hmm, what can I do?" There are no answers to that question which produce good literature. | /r/MensRights | 08/04/12 08:59 AM |
| 6 | Feminist mistakes rape in a webcomic page and calls the author a "misogynist pile of shit ". After she realizes she was wrong she refuses to apologize and suggests he "change" anyway. Transcript inside.Sometimes, a story has so extremely heavy-handed attempts at pushing people's emotional buttons that it becomes bad. It's easy to think that fiction that manages to get an emotional reaction from the reader/viewer must be good literature. But I think that when a cylon "mercifully" murders a cute little baby in the BSG prequel, for instance, that is to fiction what shock images (goatse, tubgirl etc.) is to photography. Not that it matters for this case at all, this looks more like a case of wanti… | /r/MensRights | 08/04/12 08:57 AM |
| 2 | Why do bigoted feminists and white knights call the Mens Rights Movements a "privileged straight white cis-mens rights" movement?Ownership of ideas is not the term then in English, it seems. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/12 07:36 PM |
| 10 | Why do bigoted feminists and white knights call the Mens Rights Movements a "privileged straight white cis-mens rights" movement?There is quite a bit of interesting political science writing on the idea of "ownership of ideas", who gets to be seen as the primary representatives of some faction or group. | /r/MensRights | 07/04/12 02:49 PM |
| 2 | Guess who admits to being a Troll? Guy who claimed girlfriend tried to steal his sperm: linked to account not blog or their post.Can we try not to make this about the suitability of violence in general? It's really quite peripheral to how we should react when someone comes here and tells of dramatic domestic abuse. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:14 PM |
| 1 | Guess who admits to being a Troll? Guy who claimed girlfriend tried to steal his sperm: linked to account not blog or their post.I have known some quite dodgy people, the kind who casually lie even to friends in order to elicit sympathy, get attention, or even revenge. I suspect we all have. Now if one of these was a woman, and came and told me she had just been raped, would I try to help her, get her to emergency care etc? Of course I would. And so would r/mensrights in general. Even if you have your doubts. Such things can be sorted out later. This does not preclude being critical of rape claims in general, or even havi… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:11 PM |
| 2 | Guess who admits to being a Troll? Guy who claimed girlfriend tried to steal his sperm: linked to account not blog or their post.There was plenty of skepticism, also among the ones who engaged him. It's just limits to how much you can put down someone who claims to be a victim of domestic violence. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 01:01 PM |
| 3 | Guess who admits to being a Troll? Guy who claimed girlfriend tried to steal his sperm: linked to account not blog or their post.You're forgetting that many of us have been through extreme stuff, that people might have trouble believing (unless they've gone through e.g a bad divorce themselves). Sure it looked like a troll, but how much benefit of doubt should we give? As makomk above points out, are we supposed to assume an apparent DV victim is a liar? | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 12:56 PM |
| 2 | Guess who admits to being a Troll? Guy who claimed girlfriend tried to steal his sperm: linked to account not blog or their post.Oh, I'm not sure he thinks the first is OK. It seems more like he think it never happens, it's preposterous to think it could ever happen, because women aren't like that. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 12:46 PM |
| 1 | I think I broke my brain with rage...It's a question of terminology. I agree that e.g. racial prejudice and xenophobia is very serious and must be fought. I also think that conscious attitudes of this sort are far worse. As I see it, it's best to use racism only to describe the latter - even though it may be tempting to use it to describe the former for rhetorical effect, with the best of intentions. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 09:47 AM |
| 2 | I think I broke my brain with rage...Virtually everyone wields some sort of power at some point. If they consciously use it to keep some person "in his place", I call it nasty things (like racism or sexism). If it's not conscious, I call it prejudice. Aside, I try to push the literary allusion of "soup nazi" to describe someone who only holds a petty amount of power, but still abuses it for every penny it's worth. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 09:41 AM |
| 2 | Ryan Gosling saves feminist from being run over. Feminist is indignant.The woman who wrote the gawker article has exactly 1 gawker article to her name Interesting, but she still has a career based on writing opinion pieces as far as I can see from her Wikipedia bio. Venker is also a person who makes their career from writing entertainment disguised as opinion pieces. No doubt she has the same "something funny happened to me on the way to church"-affliction and disregard for accuracy. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 09:06 AM |
| 12 | Proof of false flag Sperm-Jack poster with SRS connection. Is this modern feminism?The guy called himself something similar to dark_visions (not that, but I don't remember exactly). He only posted here and in suicidewatch. SRS serial offender alyosha_v (also uses the puppet ICumWhenIKillMen) was apparently too thick to see the allusions to suicide in the post here, and told him "good riddance" or something. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 08:38 AM |
| 8 | Proof of false flag Sperm-Jack poster with SRS connection. Is this modern feminism?Moderation is also now completely out of whack on that thread - quelle surprise. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 08:29 AM |
| 4 | Ryan Gosling saves feminist from being run over. Feminist is indignant.Actually, yes, I would. Writers for schlock like Gawker - this is their job. Something dramatic happens to them, you can bet that as soon as the initial shock has worn off, they're thinking about the best way of using it to further their career. It's not exclusive to that profession. I heard a priest holding a sermon about how he was almost attacked by a moose while on a skiing trip, and all he thought about when it happened was "how can I use this as material for my sermon?". Of course, he did.… | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 07:20 AM |
| 8 | Ryan Gosling saves feminist from being run over. Feminist is indignant.My thought too. | /r/MensRights | 06/04/12 07:14 AM |
| 3 | Help! My friend's ex just told him that he is not the father of his 7 year old son. Advice?But my friend's worst fear is that the dna would say that he is not the father and he would lose the boy forever. This is probably not a necessary worry. If his name is on the birth certificate, he is legally the father. | /r/MensRights | 05/04/12 03:24 PM |
| 44 | What a wonderful world we live in edited for privacyAs for men, when the poster on 2X searched "ex-girlfriends" she found page after page of private nsfw pictures. I'm not sure that's comparable, because there's a market for that sort of thing. Since some will pay to see "revenge" pictures of naked "ex-girlfriends", I'd wager a sizable number of such images aren't what they pretend to be. I'm not aware of a similar market for pictures of destroyed possessions. This being the internet, I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but... All in all, your insig… | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 05:06 PM |
| 2 | My wife bought me an iphone the other day. This is after I refused to buy one for myself. Guess which app SHE downloaded on MY phone first?Any possibility of moving to a better state, or even country? | /r/MensRights | 04/04/12 02:23 PM |
| 3 | Girls and coding: female peer pressure scares them offWhoa, I hadn't really thought about that, but you're right: they're certainly overrepresented in my experience too. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/12 06:04 PM |
| 3 | Girls and coding: female peer pressure scares them offSorry but I nor anyone I know got into programming because they looked up to any "superstars of programming". Programming superstars in the demoscene and shareware games scene were definitively a factor in getting me interested in programming. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/12 06:01 PM |
| 2 | Girls and coding: female peer pressure scares them offIs it, though? Maybe the social stigma is the same, but girls simply have more to lose in terms of social assets. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/12 05:54 PM |
| 2 | Girls and coding: female peer pressure scares them offBut they can work together. I'm sure there are lot of smart women who think, hey, a career in IT doesn't seem so bad. Let them call me a tomboy, I'll laugh all the way to the bank. Then they enter a course, and find that programming actually will be pretty hard for even a smart person if you haven't already nurtured a certain obsession with rules, systems, maths, electronics etc. The prospect of a quick and successful career seems less likely, so the downsides weigh more. | /r/MensRights | 02/04/12 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Show of Hands poll comparison: "Would you pierce your baby daughter's ears?" versus "Infant circumcision: yay or nay?"It could be that older people (done having kids) are more likely to say yes than younger ones. It might also be that many young people don't think seriously about what it entails until they are in a position to actually do it to a child. | /r/MensRights | 01/04/12 03:23 PM |
| 10 | Could we start calling male circumcision "male genital mutilation" exclusively? Or even refer to it as "infant genital mutilation?"IGM is a better term. It works around people's tendency to shut down the empathy muscle when they hear the word "male". | /r/MensRights | 31/03/12 04:37 PM |
| 3 | Does anyone else see this irony in the feminist circles: they claim they're against gender roles, but engage in virgin shaming men all the time?It's a bit like labor unions getting all righteous about "fair wages", but what they really want is for their members/profession to have higher wage growth than others. I don't mind people wanting higher wages, and labor unions undoubtedly do much good on the whole. The transparently fake high-mindedness still stinks. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/12 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Does anyone else see this irony in the feminist circles: they claim they're against gender roles, but engage in virgin shaming men all the time?I think I recall a study where people were given random images and a fake "bio". Women did apparently rate the same men as more good looking if they're told they're in a relationship. | /r/MensRights | 30/03/12 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone else see this irony in the feminist circles: they claim they're against gender roles, but engage in virgin shaming men all the time?Highschool psych is a lot more supported by the evidence. It's easy to contrive evolutionary explanations that sound perfectly plausible, but are totally wrong (not just in evo-psych). | /r/MensRights | 30/03/12 06:58 AM |
| 12 | /r/MensRights Person of the Week: Interview with Professor who dared to criticize a feminist.Hey, when did we start having a person of the week, and who decided on this one? I don't think "standing up to Sandra Fluke" is especially brave or noteworthy. Contraception is hardly about "lifestyle choices" these days, any more than, say, having a functional hip is. Fluke, afaik, also brought up the issue of other uses for the pill (as medication). And insurers really want to provide it, because pregnancies cost them a lot of money. Of course, right now they may see more benefit to stirring u… | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 06:46 PM |
| 2 | Feminist rationalizations for domestic violence perpetrated by womenThat's not strictly speaking an axiom, but yes. When speaking about claims outside mathematics, it's perhaps more accurate to speak of dogma, but no one outside the catholic church like that term as something positive. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 06:29 PM |
| 1 | Can we please start banning anti-male trolls who call the MRM a "redundant, misinformed group of cowards that use women as scapegoats for their own life fails" and "lonely virgins"?Ask Legolas_the_elf for the link, I think he was the one who took the screenshots. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 02:37 PM |
| 2 | Treatment of woman on trial for alleged sexual exploitation of male minor raises concerns to COTWAAs far as I know, COTWA is run by the same guy who runs the False Rape project. He really is serious about false accusations when they are against women as well, and this isn't the first example. If it's ten years ago, and the woman denies everything, and the presumptive victim can recount hundreds of events in detail, my immediate worry is recovered memory therapy. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 02:35 PM |
| 6 | Feminist rationalizations for domestic violence perpetrated by womenIf "objective reality matters" or something is an axiom they accept, then yes. I don't know if it can be considered a win or a loss that feminism (and other academic ideologies having axioms concerning specific measurable facts) for a large part has rejected that and embraced postmodernism. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 08:32 AM |
| 4 | Feminist rationalizations for domestic violence perpetrated by womenThese things are axiomatic in any sensible feminist space. From this I can infer that feminist "space" is akin to the space people talk about when they say e.g. "Whoa, that's spaced out, man!" | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 08:13 AM |
| 3 | Feminist rationalizations for domestic violence perpetrated by womenEven that is the stupid ones. A vindictive, abusive woman who has any brains at all knows that there are far more efficient ways of harming a man at her disposal, e.g. false accusations. | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 08:11 AM |
| 7 | Feminist rationalizations for domestic violence perpetrated by womenLet me do some mathsplaining here: If one took a position that "patriarchy is axiomatic", then by definition, the claim that there exists a patriarchy would not be scientific. Axioms are not scientific claims. No one can ever criticize you on rational grounds for rejecting an axiom. (One can, however, criticize someone for accepting an axiom, if it is contradictory to other axioms they accept.) | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 08:09 AM |
| 6 | Feminist rationalizations for domestic violence perpetrated by womenYou should not waste your time in SRSd. It is not a good faith effort. That said, it does illustrate nicely the traditional feminist line, something they've discussed at genderratic recently: After it no longer became possible to deny women's violence against men, these feminists started asserting that there was a categorical difference between men's and women's violence. The concept of "intimate terrorism" was a product of this justification process, but it turned out that women are also often … | /r/MensRights | 29/03/12 08:01 AM |
| 24 | Or...you could try being honest. Just a thought, Cosmo.When feminists rant about the evils of PUAs, remember that magazines like Cosmo (and a number of self-help books they help promote) have been pushing similarly cynical relationship advice for 30+ years. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/12 03:22 PM |
| 1 | " The research found that, by volume, 69 per cent of mass media reporting and commentary on men was unfavourable compared with just 12 per cent favourable and 19 per cent neutral or balanced."Feminists have had complete control in academics for decades now, whatever statistics they need, they've got a study to support it. Yeah. Not a remotely good study (often just a repackaged op-ed), but that's not necessary for Wikipedia. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/12 08:44 AM |
| 2 | Can we please start banning anti-male trolls who call the MRM a "redundant, misinformed group of cowards that use women as scapegoats for their own life fails" and "lonely virgins"?If you think you have legitimate points to make, then maybe you shouldn't have made the posts that got you deservedly banned. Maybe you shouldn't immediately jump back on a sock account and boast about it. I suppose we'll just have to train the spam filter a bit on you. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/12 07:55 AM |
| 2 | Can we please start banning anti-male trolls who call the MRM a "redundant, misinformed group of cowards that use women as scapegoats for their own life fails" and "lonely virgins"?You're right that they will just create alts and continue. I think the r/MensRights community is good at identifying and down-voting trolls. Unfortunately, you're not right at this. The problem is upvote/downvote scripts, which SRS have boasted of using. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/12 07:53 AM |
| 1 | Alleged "gender-based" treatmentThe equivalent of this would be e.g to say that 85% of muggings in a certain city districts are committed by blacks, then the police chamber should get investigated if they arrest more than 15% non-blacks. I think most sane people would recognise that as racism, even if the promoters said it would work "both ways" and also investigate the police if more than 85% blacks were arrested. That this according to you isn't state policy, just "recommended application of research", is really beside the p… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/12 04:42 PM |
| 1 | Could this explain why PharmaCorps push the "men are shitty little hypochondriacs" line to win more business from women.....These boots are made for walking, right past the "Boots" chain of pharmacies (which has recently come to Norway as well). But alas, as long as pharmacies are in the pseudomedicine business as well as the pharmaceuticals business, and women buy more pseudomedicine, we will probably see many more ads pandering to women in crude ways. | /r/MensRights | 27/03/12 03:01 PM |
| 2 | No two boys together....Maturity is the quality of being mature, gee, that's an informative definition! And "full development", no, not vague at all either. I'm tempted to make a quip about how mature it is to blindly refer to a dictionary definition. The word isn't neutral. No one ever boasted of being immature. Whatever vague stuff people put into that word, it's something highly desirable. It's about the same as claiming that blacks have less intelligence, and then go on to protest that what you mean by "intelligenc… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/12 12:26 PM |
| 1 | No two boys together....One must distinguish between the biological process of maturation and value judgements about maturity. You're not doing this yourself. The way you use the word maturity - the way society uses the word maturity, including various authorities - is hopelessly vague and mixed up with value judgments. The facts we know about the biological process of growing up, has extremely few hard and fast implications for what we can say about behavior. MRI scans do not, for instance, tell us anything useful abo… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/12 11:25 AM |
| 2 | No two boys together....MRI studies of brain development clearly show that boys develop more slowly than girls. MRI studies can't show much in the way of causation. There is about a 1 year difference at age 6, and 15 year old girls have the maturity of 18 year old boys. If it were about race, you would have understood the reason you should be very careful with such claims, especially when using loaded words like "maturity". I use to bring up Little Jimmy Scott as an example to show how flawed this thinking is. Little J… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/12 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Alleged "gender-based" treatmentAnd it works in both directions. If they're not arresting enough women, they address the possibility of gender bias. So... if more than 15% women are arrested, the department is subject to review and training until such time as the proportion is brought under 15%. And if more than 15% men are arrested, the department is subject to review and training until such time as the proportion is brought under 15%. That's what you think? It must be hard work being a policeman. Unless 70% of your DV arrest… | /r/MensRights | 27/03/12 09:27 AM |
| 5 | /r/mensrights, we need to have a talk.A headline of this sort screams "concern troll". Since that is evidently not what you're doing, you really should be more specific next time. | /r/MensRights | 25/03/12 11:00 AM |
| 4 | If Women Are Given Combat Roles in the Military, Then Selective Service Should Be Compulsory for ThemLegalese makes me nauseous (especially US supreme court legalese), but it looks as if in the linked article, they consider this - that women could free men for combat roles - but for some reason decide to ignore its relevance for the argument. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/12 10:50 AM |
| 2 | If Women Are Given Combat Roles in the Military, Then Selective Service Should Be Compulsory for Themsaying goodbye to your dog, your home ... and your girlfriend. Conscription has always had the side effect (sometimes intentional) of pushing men to marry and have children later than they otherwise would. It increases the age gap in a typical relationship, with subtle but far-reaching consequences. | /r/MensRights | 24/03/12 10:46 AM |
| 1 | "War on Women" framing in the upcoming US presidental electionIt is just silly to compare the people an incumbent president needs to appeal to and the people a republican primary contender needs to appeal to. The "war on women" narrative is Obama playing it safe, not pandering to the base. Like it or not, it does not offend nearly as many people as e.g. Santorum's family planning views do. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/12 08:04 PM |
| 8 | "War on Women" framing in the upcoming US presidental electionI'm just seeing this as an outsider. But I don't think the republican party has a powerful "anti-feminist" base in the pro-life movement - very much of that movement is about traditionalism, and traditional gender roles hold men as expendable. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/12 02:47 PM |
| 1 | "War on Women" framing in the upcoming US presidental electionThere's a certain logic to it. I mean, you play according to opponent... and Limbaugh and Santorum played right into that hand. Still, this article was a pretty inept attempt at making the focus on victimization of women. | /r/MensRights | 22/03/12 02:00 PM |
| 2 | So, I got what over here amounts to custody.Hello, countryman! Wish I could tell an equally happy story. | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 11:00 AM |
| 5 | Of course, like any site that thrives on pseudonymity, Reddit attracts its share of the sick and the deluded. There’s a subreddit, MensRights, “for people who believe that men are currently being disadvantaged by society,”Hey QueueNX, I just thought you should know that by posting here, you are as much and as little a r/mensrights poster as the rest of us. So there's no need to address "us". | /r/MensRights | 21/03/12 10:43 AM |
| 1 | Ellen J. Sirleaf, Nobel Laurelate and president of Liberia, defends laws criminalizing homosexuality (x-post from worldnews)they'll give one to Cheney next. They gave one to Kissinger long ago, so the brood of Nixon are already represented. The Peace Prize (as well as the Nobel prizes to some degree) have been given to embarrassing recipients from the beginning. They hit more than they miss I'd say, but they still miss a lot. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 04:19 PM |
| 3 | Some interesting highlights (for me at least) from Dr. Tara Palmatier's and Dr. Paul's AVfM Radio show tonight on "Shit-Testing".It's a term the PUA community popularized. As far as I know, they don't advocate men doing it to women, but advise men to stand firm against it. Although, I think some of the less publicized female-oriented equivalents of "game" did advocate shit testing, except not under that name. It wouldn't be out of line for Cosmo-style "feminism". | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 09:26 AM |
| 3 | Dr Helen: "Testosterone is why we don't live in caves."Each individual is adapted to function in certain ranges of hormonal variation (though both biology - varying number of receptors for these hormones in the brain - and experience, e.g. learning to recognize and consciously control mounting anger, frustration etc.) Going far outside what you're used to through synthetic means is going to give a rocky ride. The character of this rocky ride is probably quite affected by your expectations, experiences and biology as well. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 08:51 AM |
| 4 | Ellen J. Sirleaf, Nobel Laurelate and president of Liberia, defends laws criminalizing homosexuality (x-post from worldnews)I think this may be an MR issue because: Ellen Johnson Sirleaf got the Nobel peace prize largely for being a female leader in Africa, and has expressed the idea that if more women were in charge, things would be much better in Africa. As the Guardian article describes it, it sounds like the laws currently criminalize only male homosexual acts ("sodomy"). Wikpedia claims both genders are targeted, but has a "citation needed" and I couldn't find a source. (What is certain is that legislation that … | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 08:19 AM |
| 13 | Just a little thing from Facebook about an otherwise lovely friend of mine...No, the Patriarchy converts pain into raw power! | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 08:05 AM |
| 20 | Tom Martin, an MRA who fought against bias against males at the London School of Economics, lost his suit and was ordered to pay the legal fees of the LSE. I guess that's what happens when MRAs try to get things done through the legal system.Whatever Mr Martin says about all this, no objectively reasonable person would feel degraded or humiliated by posters on the wall or course content OK, open season when it comes to posters on the wall on the LSE! No matter what's on them, no person can possibly find them degrading or humiliating. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 07:44 AM |
| 4 | If r/mensrights is so bad in the eyes of SA/SRS, then how come r/rights4men isn't getting any flack?That subreddit was as good as dead last time I looked. The tradcons who started it realized how few they were and decided to stay loud here instead. The haters aren't interested in it, since it reveals just how marginal the tradcons are in the movement. | /r/MensRights | 20/03/12 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Libertarian author, blogger, and columnist VoxDay sounds off on Peggy Noonan's recent opinion pieceI actually agree with that. It was still pretty empty name dropping. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/12 08:27 PM |
| 15 | The crime? Guilty of being black and male in the US.Absolutely. I think a lot of so-called teenage problems aren't related to adolescence per se, but to the person going from a protected, privileged status (a cute little child), to a vilified, loathed status (a teenager). I've often thought that this must be especially hard on minority boys. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/12 12:39 PM |
| 13 | Hey MensRights, mind vetting my argument for me? Mine is the hidden response to the top comment.It's pretty clear the OP did not intend the pregnancy or cheat with the contraception or something similar. Thus saying she's responsible for the husband's grief is not very reasonable - unless you consider abortion as a self-evident, unproblematic alternative, which it obviously isn't to her. (Nor is it necessarily so to him - she didn't mention pressure to have an abortion first time she thought she was pregnant). | /r/MensRights | 19/03/12 10:29 AM |
| 6 | Zimbabwe: 70 Percent Men Tricked on Paternity in cases referred for DNA paternity testsDNA paternity tests are conducted in cases where a man doubts whether or not he is the father of a given child. So these numbers tell us very little. If you suspect paternity fraud enough to seek a DNA test, then yes, you are very likely (but not always) right. No doubt the same outside Zimbabwe. | /r/MensRights | 19/03/12 10:18 AM |
| 5 | Libertarian author, blogger, and columnist VoxDay sounds off on Peggy Noonan's recent opinion pieceA few good points, like The men of Noonan’s generation – at 62, she is a Baby Boomer – still operate under the assumption that women will behave as they did when their behavior was kept in check by traditional expectations. They still believe in the myth of the fair sex. They still subscribe to the imaginary concept of the gentler sex. but links to a plainly non-representative survey, and has some groaningly stupid phrases, like What Noonan decries is little more than an abandonment of the philo… | /r/MensRights | 19/03/12 08:37 AM |
| 6 | MRAs protest against biased family courts, an unfair legal system, and genital mutilation. Feminists are worked up about... this.It's a bit strange. From their statements, you'd think they aren't aware men shave their armpits too. | /r/MensRights | 18/03/12 04:25 PM |
| 18 | Hey MRAs, I just thought you should know that SRS and SomethingAwful are about to redditbomb you in an attempt to have you shut down.That was some guy who wanted to dump the leak here... And was told no, because it's against reddit TOS. | /r/MensRights | 17/03/12 01:21 PM |
| 54 | Hey MRAs, I just thought you should know that SRS and SomethingAwful are about to redditbomb you in an attempt to have you shut down."Redditbomb"? Ooh, watch out, they've got LINGO! | /r/MensRights | 17/03/12 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Widely cited study claiming anti-mother bias was a fraudYes, I could perhaps find you the link, but it's a while ago. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 07:14 PM |
| 5 | Widely cited study claiming anti-mother bias was a fraudThis is a gem indeed. I always thought those numbers were fishy. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 06:21 PM |
| 4 | Rick Santorum wants to ban hard-core pornography - "(Pornography) contributes to misogyny and violence against women."Oh, I'm sure he doesn't hate women. He just has very specific ideas about what their role should be. | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 05:13 PM |
| 6 | What would an MRA's version of their ideal woman be?A bit unrelated, but I remember a sketch by a group of Argentinian comedians, where there's this one guy wooing the "pretty damsel", in a way involving increasingly ludicrous musical instruments. The lady, however, has a crush on some other man, and however well the suitor presents himself, she tells a story of how the other man is better on whatever particular dimension the suitor focused on. Finally the suitor asks, well, why don't you marry this other guy then? "Alas, he likes men!" Whereupon… | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 09:56 AM |
| 2 | Were there any repercussions for the people involved in the Agent Orange leak?I was about to suggest, "Why don't you talk to Legolas-the-elf, he seems to be pretty well updated on various r/menrsights related drama." | /r/MensRights | 16/03/12 08:35 AM |
| 62 | Mods at /r/AskReddit are standing their ground when dealing with SRS. This is what prompted the "askreddit mods are not your mommies and daddies" thread.That askreddit thread is encouraging. Sympathetic voices are upvoted, and I don't think it's just us doing it. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/12 02:37 PM |
| 2 | The Real Reason Behind the Success of Non-Violent ProtestsNot a men's rights issue, just the usual right-wing power fantasy delusions. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/12 10:08 AM |
| 1 | My personal false-accusation-of-rape storyI'll spell it out for you, using the good ol' Jew test. "Jews tend to have brown eyes". Not controversial. "Jews tend to be mentally inferior". You better have some damn good evidence, because such beliefs are self-reinforcing. "Jews are biologically predisposed to be more selfish and evil than the rest of us". No matter what observations you claim to support this, it would have required a value judgement of which selfish/evil actions are worst. So it is a value judgment itself. A rotten one. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/12 08:15 AM |
| 2 | [Opinion] Posting to feminist /r/s is nonproductive and must stop.Maybe it is true that it is "widely considered to be" satire by feminists. But that does not actually make it satire. I posit that it is not satire. As evidence, I point to the fact that the author tried her very best to murder Andy Warhol. It wasn't some half-hearted attempt, he was shot through both lungs. The only reason was that he was a man with the power to refuse to do what she wanted him to. It should be viewed like any other text calling for genocide, written by an individual who plainl… | /r/MensRights | 15/03/12 08:05 AM |
| 2 | [Opinion] Posting to feminist /r/s is nonproductive and must stop.it ultimately gets incredibly boring after the 10th thread complaining about the same thing or making the same point. Speaking of that, this post on the front page now, I think is a perfect example. It's not that it says anything wrong. It's just that it's been said a million times before, and the author contributes nothing new, he's just playing with emotions, trying to whip people into a frenzy. A Voice for Men has much of the same problem. It's much more talk radio than policy think tank. | /r/MensRights | 15/03/12 07:53 AM |
| 1 | My personal false-accusation-of-rape storyPhysical characteristics are not in the same league as moral worthiness, J . Theres a big difference from saying someone's tall, to saying someone is inherently villainous because of his birth. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/12 10:38 PM |
| 6 | My personal false-accusation-of-rape storySaying that one sex is inherently more moral than the other, independent of culture and circumstance, is pretty much the definition of sexist. It is also fundamentally a(n im)moral position, not one which can be confirmed or denied by experience. | /r/MensRights | 14/03/12 01:58 PM |
| 1 | New Statesman - Is feminism sexist?But I am not contesting this! I am saying that in our society, the character of men's work and women's work has been different. And women's work has been centered far more on the home in our culture - not 100% inside its walls, but typically much closer. And back in a time where what now happens in factories largely happened in the home as so-called cottage industries (as Typhonblue rightly points out - another thing I'm not contesting!), men's work and women's work in terms of direct economic p… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 09:11 PM |
| 1 | New Statesman - Is feminism sexist?I see, you're thinking of cottage industries. But these industries, if their productivity increased at all with technological progress, did not remotely do so at the level of the outside of the home-industries. That's why the latter replaced the former. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 08:25 PM |
| 1 | New Statesman - Is feminism sexist?I know for a fact at least that my fishermen great-great grandfathers did take the extremely risky work of open sea fishing - my great-great grandmothers didn't. Even though they lived pretty close to starvation, and the productive work they could do at home was highly limited from living north of the polar circle. I would be surprised to hear that poor people elsewhere in our cultures did not also occasionally take the opportunity to shelter women when that was a costly thing to do. What about … | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 08:22 PM |
| 1 | New Statesman - Is feminism sexist?Huh? I can't quite see how you reach that number. For farmers, sure, it can be a bit hard to draw a line between in-house and out-house - both genders work pretty close to the home. But it shouldn't be controversial to suggest that productive jobs you can take outside the home, from drilling for oil to working in a factory mill to trading with distant countries, have been steadily growing more productive. Even plowing a field became more productive with the invention of crop rotation and underst… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 08:14 PM |
| 2 | New Statesman - Is feminism sexist?there is no point in history were women didn't work. True, for the vast majority of women. However, in many cultures, it has been the norm for a long time that women work in the home (feeding chickens and milking cows and whatnot), while work outside the home (ploughing, fishing etc.) is done by men. From the middle ages and on, the share of interesting work happening outside the home has grown. What you can achieve inside the home has stayed more or less constant, while what you can achieve out… | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 07:02 PM |
| 3 | Just an SW mod, with some thoughts on suicideThe international comparison fallacy. Oh come on, comparing counties isn't a fallacy. Yes, there may be other factors we don't know, but it only adds noise (and the challenge of disentangling it), it does not make comparisons impossible. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 03:23 PM |
| 2 | Just an SW mod, with some thoughts on suicideIn that case wouldn't you expect lower suicide rates in countries with public healhcare? And wouldn't women be equally affected by the purely economic disincentive to seek help? I haven't analyzed the data, but from a quick look at the wikipedia page (List of countries by suicide rate) it doesn't seem health care cost is a major factor. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 02:35 PM |
| 2 | Just an SW mod, with some thoughts on suicideSome writers have looked into this recently, there are posts on the front page. It's not quite as simple as that self-harm is counted as suicide attempts, although the main point stands (that suicide stats do point to men having a harder time on average). | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 02:32 PM |
| 5 | A word on Radfems, the SPLC and ugly hypocrisyAssuming they're acting in good faith. With some groups, that is a big assumption. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Non-fatal suicidal behaviour, with linksBy that logic "suicidal thoughts" is also a contradiction in terms. After all, the thoughts themselves are incapable of killing you. I think non-fatal suicidal behavior is a good term for the things suicidal people typically do, that non-suicidal people don't - besides killing themselves. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 12:42 PM |
| 5 | Roosh V, a "pickup artist" blogger also targeted by SPLC as a hate site, respondsI think that if you're willing to respond to women who act out harmful gender roles (hypergamy etc.), by acting out harmful gender roles yourself, then you are no champion of men's interests. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 10:05 AM |
| 58 | A lot of trolls tonight ...Doubt it. AlyoshaV is an SRS troll who has many alts, including icumwhenikillmen and WillowRosenberg. AlyoshaV is just an account the troll uses for marginally less offensive posts. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 09:23 AM |
| 4 | A word on Radfems, the SPLC and ugly hypocrisySaying we certainly ought to be better at calling them out, though, is disputable. We are already far, far less tolerant of such attitudes than e.g radfemhub. | /r/MensRights | 13/03/12 07:19 AM |
| 1 | Does this subreddit really believe there are no male privileges and little to no sexism against women?I mixed up the genders. I did mean men have no obvious enforced privileges. We may have some advantages, and advantages can be serious enough (the sinking college graduation rates of men and high suicide rate are "merely" disadvantages, no one actively forces men to drop out of college or commit suicide). Whereas conscription would be an excellent example of a privilege women have, since men are actively forced to do something women are not. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 09:44 PM |
| 1 | NYTimes insinuates Romney's campaign of having gender, race bias - because of their choice in musicIt's not as if they have much choice in music. It seems whatever song they choose, the artist is going to send a notice to request they don't use it... | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Over half of accusations made against teachers and teaching assistants by pupils in Wales turned out to be false, malicious or unfounded.People in various walks of life aren't any more moral, ultimately, than others. What makes a difference is the tools you have at your access if you want to hurt someone. The reason you should expect more false accusations from children isn't really that they have so much better fantasies, or that they don't know the difference between right and wrong. It's simply that making accusations is about the only way they can wield power over a hated adult. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 12:53 PM |
| 5 | Does this subreddit really believe there are no male privileges and little to no sexism against women?You shouldn't use the word privileges, then. A better word would be advantages. Privilege suggests legal or effectively enforced prerogatives: something a person of the one gender can do, but a person of the other is actively prevented from. To the degree those exist... I have trouble coming up with ones in favor of women (in the present day, in our societies). | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 12:45 PM |
| 15 | Does this subreddit really believe there are no male privileges and little to no sexism against women?Male privilege, not just the feminist theory of; but whether men enjoy some privileges that women, as a group, do not. They exist, but they are intimately tied up to things that aren't privileges at all - really, I prefer the word advantages to privileges. Consider for instance, if men get further in the corporate hierarchy because we're better at appearing confident and playing up our strengths - this doesn't seem to unlikely. But men aren't cocky and boastful because we like to be, but because… | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 12:40 PM |
| 2 | One woman among the top 100 chess players. But 40% quotas in management and parliament? Would 40% female quotas for chess grand masters make sense?I said: Without knowing anything about the reason they play chess, we can state that the women who do play chess, currently, do so at the same level as the men. I have said nothing about reserving quotas. I have said nothing about what will happen if more women start to play chess for some new reason. It could be that the reason so few women play chess is that they are inherently bad at it. But we don't know. You can't tell from the data h-s is looking at (hell, he doesn't even bother looking at… | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 11:58 AM |
| 1 | Many women won't marry a man who doesn't own a home. This recent shift, along with soaring real estate prices, has created a woefully frustrated class of bachelors.In most western countries house ownership is subsidised, e.g. though tax deductions for mortgage payments. Renting is expensive. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 10:20 AM |
| 1 | Many women won't marry a man who doesn't own a home. This recent shift, along with soaring real estate prices, has created a woefully frustrated class of bachelors.I would like to mention that while you're still paying the bank loan for the house, or the mortgage, you don't own the house. Legally you do, unless you do it with one of these novel freaky Islamic banking contracts (then I believe the bank technically buys the house and rents it to you). | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 10:06 AM |
| 2 | "Mostly women and children killed" but actually more men than women died.I bet you dollars to donuts had it been 16 men killed it would have read "An American soldier is in custody after allegedly killing at least 16 civilians" That's assuming it wouldn't have said "killing at least 16 insurgents", and nothing about custody. It's much harder to use that coverup when there are women and children involved. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 09:25 AM |
| 6 | Are you man enough?"Most Men don’t rape, All men can help". Oh, most don’t, there’s a sop to your ego, you might be one of the good men, not one of those “bad men” Reminds me of a classic post by Typhonblue: Women infected by rape hysteria will meet bad men, creepy men, evil men. And they’ll meet good men, real men, strong men. But they will never meet an innocent man. | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Wow. Just wow. Massachussets wants to fix alimony so that it isn't a lifetime pay, and this is CNN's editorial response.It is very rare that the home spouse risks ending on the streets. They get half the assets, after all, and if they really did serious work as a stay at home spouse, they will have developed transferable skills - which society should be capable of recognizing. It is very rare to be a stay at home spouse for long in Norway, but the one I know got a job as a deaconess (here, that means a kind of Christian nurse who talks to lonely elderly people) when her husband died. Even if the stay at home spou… | /r/MensRights | 12/03/12 07:16 AM |
| 4 | Wow. Just wow. Massachussets wants to fix alimony so that it isn't a lifetime pay, and this is CNN's editorial response.The key phrase in your last paragraph is "to the benefit of another". The working spouse also gives up something "to the benefit of another". He (for it usually is) gives up crucial early contact with his child, plus a considerable amount of (often hard-earned) money. Why should society rule that the one sacrifice is more valuable than the other? Since the decision to stay at home or not is primarily the woman's choice these days, it seems especially unreasonable to say it's such a raw deal. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/12 03:06 PM |
| 6 | Wow. Just wow. Massachussets wants to fix alimony so that it isn't a lifetime pay, and this is CNN's editorial response.Actually, many second-wave feminists, who were quite evil in other ways, opposed the idea of alimony, and strongly resisted anything resembling a reward for being a stay-at-home mom (like pension credits for unpaid work). The alimony-loving feminists are from a different, more conservative branch of feminism. Of course, when these types of feminism try to work together in the same organizations, they tend to compromise in ways that give the worst of both worlds from men's perspective. | /r/MensRights | 11/03/12 02:42 PM |
| 5 | The Myth of Male PowerHey, what happened to eephbot, and who are you? | /r/MensRights | 11/03/12 01:41 PM |
| 1 | So this recently came to my attention... (female here)...And if you are really genuine you know you can just.. like.. give it back? Right? Probably not, if it's eaten up, as it usually is. Thoreau asserted that "If I have unjustly wrested a plank from a drowning man, I must restore it to him though I drown myself." But thankfully, although injustice has (probably) been done here, no one is in acute danger of drowning, and it's probably better for everyone (including any kids) if justice is restored in a manner destroying as little as possible. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/12 03:39 PM |
| 3 | So this recently came to my attention... (female here)...But we're not all anti-feminists. There are plenty of well-intentioned self-identified feminists who probably have never heard of Solanas or SCUM, have no idea of who the redstockings were or that they were viciously anti-gay, don't know half about how damn complex the history of gender relations is. Some of these feminists help men more than they hurt. Even with radical feminists, there are some that are willing to actually think about the issues than others. Those will be won over eventually. … | /r/MensRights | 10/03/12 03:35 PM |
| 12 | Dave Foley required to pay more in alimony then he has in income. Judge, "Ability to pay is not relevant to obligation to pay."This is one of the things that are much better in (supposedly) feminist Scandinavia. "Imputing income" would be met with a WTF? here, and there's virtually no chance of alimony (unless your wife has been stay-at-home for 20+ years, I suppose). | /r/MensRights | 10/03/12 03:09 PM |
| 9 | SomethingAwful Anti-MensRights IRC ChannelRather than getting worked up about it, better to get a couple of logging bots in there. Let them shoot themselves in the foot if they think the truth isn't going to get out. | /r/MensRights | 10/03/12 11:05 AM |
| 4 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.Regardless of their reasoning for putting r/mr on the list, there are posts on here everyday and that lend legitimacy to their claims. This is an open forum, where people can even post anonymously. That "there are posts here" which are like this and that is no excuse to smear us. The people who are trying to smear us are not acting in good faith. I can't comment as to why SAVE would be on the list, as I know absolutely nothing about it. Well, then go and get educated. Compare SAVE with r/mensrig… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 11:02 PM |
| 9 | Sorry guys, I'm stepping down as mod. Reddit is being held hostage by virtual thugsThey didn't have to, no, but there are few charities who aren't at least partially focused on self-propagation. From that perspective, it pays very little for SPLC to be critical when someone aligned with them calls in and wants a new group designated. It looks good on their yearly press report that the number of hate groups have increased. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:51 PM |
| 7 | This sums up the Southern Poverty Law Center (SLPC) controversy nicely. (Thanks GWW)Barely. He was shot through both lungs and the spleen, and never recovered mentally. He developed serious paranoia. The fact that such a woman can be held up as a hero of the feminist movement - well, that alone should make people think twice about who are the hate groups here. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:45 PM |
| 4 | Sorry guys, I'm stepping down as mod. Reddit is being held hostage by virtual thugsBe aware that the front page thread appears to be totally dominated by an SRS comments voting scripts. Comments unrepresentative of this community are voted into the skies. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:38 PM |
| 9 | Sorry guys, I'm stepping down as mod. Reddit is being held hostage by virtual thugsHowever, guys would do the same if the laws favored them. I think it would take more than laws, but basically I agree: men are not morally superior to women. These days, though, I'd say the opposite misconception is more widespread. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:35 PM |
| 11 | Sorry guys, I'm stepping down as mod. Reddit is being held hostage by virtual thugsThen SRS invaded, and totally dominated the voting on the post. I'm pretty damn sure they use a botnet of reddit accounts + proxies to do mass-upvoting - user Legolas-the-elf said a script to do this had been posted in r/subredditdrama. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:33 PM |
| 20 | Sorry guys, I'm stepping down as mod. Reddit is being held hostage by virtual thugsSeems to be David Futrelle who has spoon-fed splc with these attitudes. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:29 PM |
| 6 | Sucking infant’s penis is legal in the US! But only if you first cut off his foreskin without anesthesia! A non-anesthesia Circumcision study was halted due to proven trauma. [NSFW]I've been to a jewish circumcision. He didn't suck the babies dick. Nobody said ALL jews did this. Haredi Orthodox Jews of New York, however, frequently do. They didn't invent the practice either, it is very old. I'm pretty sure the article writer uses "satanic" as an expression of how wrong and perverse it is, not to literally suggest the practitioners are satanists. Yeah, human-stupidity is not the best of sites. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:14 PM |
| 2 | Sucking infant’s penis is legal in the US! But only if you first cut off his foreskin without anesthesia! A non-anesthesia Circumcision study was halted due to proven trauma. [NSFW]Or am I living under a rock? I'd say so. At least you haven't read the front page of r/mr, where there were recently big discussion around a rabbi who had accidentally infected a baby with herpes so that he died - by sucking on his penis as part of an old circumcision ritual. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Sucking infant’s penis is legal in the US! But only if you first cut off his foreskin without anesthesia! A non-anesthesia Circumcision study was halted due to proven trauma. [NSFW]It's the same reason we don't remove the appendix unless it actually gets infected. Yup. It's interesting to note that a lot of surgery that was done to almost everyone before (removing tonsils, piercing the eardrum to remove fluids after an ear infection) are avoided today, now that we have better knowledge about the risks and benefits. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 10:00 PM |
| 2 | Sucking infant’s penis is legal in the US! But only if you first cut off his foreskin without anesthesia! A non-anesthesia Circumcision study was halted due to proven trauma. [NSFW]Calling it a useless procedure is unproven First of all, the default assumption should be that it is useless. Second, just about all medical organisations in countries where there is no tradition for circumcision, have stated that routine infant circumcision cannot be recommended. Whatever gains there may be must be so small that they are outweighed by the risks of surgery. So you agree that The point is mutilation is obviously wrong, even if it "doesn't really do anything". But sorry to break i… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 09:58 PM |
| 3 | This sums up the Southern Poverty Law Center (SLPC) controversy nicely. (Thanks GWW)It's a really important question, I think. Pelle Billing, the Swedish men's rights blogger, is very insistent on the difference between shame, which you feel on account of what you are, and guilt, which you feel on account of what you do. His theory is that society pushes shame on men (think "men can stop rape"), and guilt on women - because it gives women many options, more than men, but leaves them on their own or gives contradictory messages about choosing between them. Meaning that whatever … | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:23 PM |
| 5 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.I have said all along that SRSdiscussion is not a good faith effort from SRS's side. It is utterly pointless to discuss our concerns anywhere someone involved in SRS have power to censor. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 06:56 PM |
| 4 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.WTF?! I didn't notice that. I'm more and more convinced those guys have a botnet. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 02:08 PM |
| 1 | I'm calling in a downvote brigade...That looks even more like a downvote brigade to me... | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 02:00 PM |
| 12 | "Mad Men" | A men's rights group has been stirring up controversy on Arizona State campus.Nice article, because it's really plain to see how the feminists are the extreme ones. The gender studies professor explains us the way we're used to hearing: “Any time women have pushed for what they see to be their, in the case of the U.S., constitutional rights, there has always been push-back,” Stewart says. “There have always been livid, angry, sometimes violent individuals in groups who are working very hard to make sure women don’t get that.” While the poor MRA student sticking his neck o… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 01:58 PM |
| 2 | I'm calling in a downvote brigade...It was said somewhat in jest. I do not think an appeal to police our own community somewhat more with voting is a downvote brigade. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 01:47 PM |
| 7 | I'm calling in a downvote brigade...I think the best policy would be for the mods to just delete threads that are obvious targets of a sub invasion. Give SRS license to delete arbitrary threads? Don't think that will be a good idea. Where was that thread, by the way? I did check because I suspected it, but I didn't see it on the front page (there was a link to splc) | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 11:36 AM |
| 7 | The respected non-partisan Christian Science Monitor writes an article with legitimate criticisms of the Southern Policy Law Center. Saying they use cries of racism and hate to stifle debate and threaten legitimate political movements.Cries of "radical Marxism" have been used to stifle a lot of debate as well. I wish SPLC were genuine radical Marxists, because then they would not be mainstream and influental when they do stuff like this. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 09:53 AM |
| 4 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.Warren Farrell approached the issues as an academic first and foremost, and came from a feminist school of thought. He can't well hate something he used to be. Many of us, including yours truly, are here because we've had very bad experiences at the hands of entitled women or "white knights", and been met with very little sympathy for it - or outright antipathy. I try not to judge people - at least not too much. But it's obviously easier for me to be tolerant and nonjudgmental to people I disagr… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 09:47 AM |
| 3 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.I did not know you were Kyle. Taking the opportunity to say thank you for your articles, they've been of consistent high quality. And your venture into videoblogging is also a very brave thing. Also, all my posts that I did write for them have been removed from their site. The reasons are complicated at the moment. I didn't know, that is unfortunate. Well, hoping you can explain it some time. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 09:38 AM |
| 6 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.The relevance is just that you asked how many have experienced the same. I have. It does not make it doing it OK for anyone. It does, however, suggest that people from this community may not be particularly worse than other communities in this regard. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 09:23 AM |
| 2 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.If r/MR won't take measures to get the hell off of the SPLC watch-list, then I will no longer be able to affiliate myself with it. Hey The_Patriarchy, did you notice SAVE is on there as well? Do you realize just how many people we would have to ban to be more acceptable to feminists than SAVE? It would take me 5 minutes top to find a comment in your own comment history, that is more "hateful" than SAVE. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:35 AM |
| 7 | I'm calling in a downvote brigade...It would be our collective army in this case, against an invading downvote army. Nothing personal about it. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:32 AM |
| 1 | I'm calling in a downvote brigade...Managed to fix my broken links before eephbot spotted them. (Insert success kid meme here). | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:30 AM |
| 1 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.As far as I understand it, JeremiahMRA doesn't think they should have that option. That, or he thinks they're unable to make it due to biological/historical determinism, same thing. He really is the mirror image of a dogmatic marxist. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:17 AM |
| 17 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.Were you a donor to the SPLC before this happened? Doubtful. You know, when a user like you casually tries to smear the credibility of a fairly quiet and thoughtful r/mensrights regular, and manages to get modded to 17+ presently, you're kind of giving your shit game away. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:13 AM |
| 7 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.This gives you a good angle to write to them. It should be possible to convince some people at SPLC (probably not this Goldwag guy who appears to be leading the charge) that calling e.g. SAVE a hate group is way over the top. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:08 AM |
| 11 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.Looks like there's one or two people in SPLC who has suddenly developed a hate-on for the MRM. I expect most people in that organization don't have a clue about the phenomenon, and this guy therefore gets to say basically what he wants. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:03 AM |
| 3 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.I haven't read everything, so can't speak in absolutes, but I've seen no actual misogyny from AvfM article writers. (I have seen in comments, of course). I've seen plenty of very good articles from the likes of Typhonblue, GirlWritesWhat, Kyle Lowett, and Robert St. Estephe. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 08:01 AM |
| 5 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.Agreed. It's annoying that Paul Elam wants to make such arguments in a lowbrow talk radio format, and use shitty headlines. But that's no excuse for anyone in here for dismissing the arguments - maybe for someone like the people currently inbound from various other subreddits, but not to someone who has actually paid attention for a while. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 07:56 AM |
| 9 | TIL: Southern Poverty Law Center thinks R/mensrights is a burgeoning hate group.I have to wonder how many people have experienced the same. I have experienced the same - from SRSers. Some shithead followed me around to other forums and tried to smear me/intimidate me from posting here a while back. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 07:40 AM |
| 1 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.Well to be fair a case can be made that women are not held as responsible to society as men are, and one could argue that that warrants women not deserving the vote. At the very least, if you believe this (I think it's totally wrongheaded), you'll have to give women the option of accepting those responsibilities you think they dodge. In any case, banning does indeed seem unnecessary. Downvote the misogynistic posts and move on. I agree with this. I think bans should be reserved for people posing… | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 07:31 AM |
| 8 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.Stupid. Kyle Lowett posts there. GWW writes there. Typhoblue writes there. Yeah, some authors have an annoying lowbrow talk radio style. Including Elam sometimes. Some have political views I regard as pretty extreme. But you know what, I can live with it. You just have to tolerate some disagreements, and tolerate that some people will make good points in bad ways. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 07:23 AM |
| 14 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.Idiotic. If SAVE is classified as a hate group, there's no reason to worry about being classified as a hate group. It reflects worse on them than us. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 07:00 AM |
| 5 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.Who is this "us" of which you speak, kemosabe? Comment section on Spearhead is a hellhole, but the writers occasionally post interesting things. Afm and Jeremiahmra likewise link to much that isn't directly related to their unsympathetic politics. You sound a bit too much like an SRS concern troll to me. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 06:52 AM |
| 2 | It might be time to reconsider such lax moderation.He thinks women do not deserve to vote. That's pretty misogynistic in my book. But we should not ban him, especially not to please these people. It's a slippery slope. Downvote and move on. | /r/MensRights | 09/03/12 06:47 AM |
| 0 | yet another comic that portrays the husband as helplessly incompetent at home but useful as a breadwinnerWhen someone makes a "make me a sandwich" joke, they aren't suggesting that women have limited capabilities. There are stereotype jokes which do suggest women have limited capabilities in one area or another, but they're a lot less accepted. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/12 09:39 PM |
| 3 | Fathers matter infographic (xpost from r/parenting)This doesn't seem to likely to me, actually. Of course, for a sufficiently bad value of bad, a child is better off without. But this is higher than people think, I believe. The reason I believe that, is that we know how abysmal results we get talking children away from their parents. Even with a great foster home, sad thing is those kids tend to do really, really badly. Where CPS services are up to date on the science, they tend to only take the kids away if they are in acute danger of being hur… | /r/MensRights | 08/03/12 05:53 PM |
| -1 | Veteran MRA and father of 5 Khankrumthebulgar has passed away.If that is true, I'd say it's neo-nazi's fault that we are forsaking our own culture. They have appropriated these things. Which doesn't mean I enjoy myself some Snorri, or Snorre as we call him. But statements about meeting in Valhalla? No thanks. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/12 04:11 PM |
| 3 | Silver Lining for the MRM on Rush L's big fat ugly mouth.No, but they had a big say in what should be contained in the mandate or not, because they have lobbyists. The reason men's birth control isn't in that bill, is that insurance companies don't want to provide that, and the government didn't have a strong incentive to fight them on this. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/12 02:36 PM |
| 5 | Silver Lining for the MRM on Rush L's big fat ugly mouth.Paying for birth control is far less expensive than paying for a pregnancy. The birth control mandate specifically excludes male birth control options. Why would that be? Think about those two for a moment. The answer is staring you in the face. (spoiler space) . . . . . . . . . . Giving a woman easy and cheap access to birth control is sound business for the insurance company, because a pregnancy is expensive to them. Giving a man easy and cheap access to birth control is not sound business, be… | /r/MensRights | 08/03/12 11:40 AM |
| 1 | (X-Post from legaladvice) I just went through mediation for the custody of my son in Texas and think I got lied to by my lawyerIf it was a non-lawyer giving the advice this lawyer gave, wouldn't he be in big trouble now? | /r/MensRights | 08/03/12 11:29 AM |
| 0 | Veteran MRA and father of 5 Khankrumthebulgar has passed away.Looks like it's machine translated. It may not be fair, but if you go around in Norway speaking about Valhalla and Asgard and all that blood and honor and glory baggage that comes with it, people are going to think you are a neo-nazi. Was Randy Shake actually a pagan? If not, I think there are better ways of showing your respects. | /r/MensRights | 08/03/12 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticObviously being 'defined' by society is of value to people if they're willing to participate in a society that condemns, neglects and abuses them. They value their participation in society--thus whatever identity society gives them--more then they value their own wellbeing! They do not have an option of not participating in the system without starving. They participate in the system because they value their own wellbeing. I dare say the sense of purpose through shared suffering would not be enou… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticHow does being told by society that you're X give you a sense of who you are and your purpose? They don't, as such. It does so by you letting it define you. It's just much easier to do that than coming up with a sense of purpose and identity from a tabula rasa. But don't think majority society is the only thing you can to go to find a suggestion for who you are. To take an extreme example, a tiny secret society might convince you that you are elect, and a lot of other specific things, giving you… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 09:50 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticYou're just stubbornly refusing to look at the concept of identity as I use the word. I'm just going to repeat myself if this goes on. I use the word identity in a very common way! When we speak of a person with an identity crisis, for instance, we usually speak of such things: someone suddenly deciding to abandon his family for a secret love affair someone having a dramatic religious conversion someone dropping out of a prestigious school program to use drugs - or be a stay-at-home wife for tha… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticExplain the value as you see it. How is 'male' a valued identity by society? Identity isn't about society's value of you. Take Indian castes; some are certainly valued more than others, some are virtually not valued at all. Yet they give everyone an answer to the question "Who am I? What's my purpose in life?". Not a good answer, necessarily. But an answer many people are probably going to accept by default, because they can't convince themselves of any better ones. Going without an answer has a… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 09:12 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticJust have to address this separately (I'm on a computer now, so copying and pasting is less of a hassle): In which ways do I stop being a man, according to your theory? Yep. You just stop being a man. This is not an answer to my question. In which ways? The only thing I can see is that I suffer loss of social status. But that is orthogonal to identity. Identity is, by definition (well, the obvious, reasonable definition) about who I am, what I want from life, how I see myself. There's the old ex… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticWe are talking past each other here, because we don't use the words "identity" and "man" the same way. Call it what you will, but I hope you see that what I call identity and you call a mere classification is a valuable thing. The angsty teenager's questions, "who am I? What am I? What do I want from life?" do have answers in the traditional gender roles (which for men is pretty much the present gender role). Women's liberation and increase in number of options is on the whole a good thing, but … | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 08:42 PM |
| -1 | GirlWritesWhat: I know you are okay with your circumcision, but...True, the worst forms of female circumcision are more in the territory of castration (making men eunuchs) than typical male circumcision in the west. But there are some practices that are comparable. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticSay I ignore gender expectations as a man, and someone says "you're not a real man. You're not a man at all!". In which ways do I stop being a man, according to your theory? Certainly, I am still a man in the sense that I keep my role and gender obligations. Next time I trangress, are they're going to judge me as if I was a child, or a woman? Of course not. And although that may suck for me, it does have the consolation prize that I know what I am. I have an identity, a role, even if I don't liv… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticNot as much as women. Women get decent social status for being what they are, but have a low "acting multiplier". What they do counts less (both for villainy and positive achievements). Men have low inherent status for existing, but a higher multiplier. We are both admired more for our successes and scorned more for our failures. But this is quite independent from identity. It may suck to be a man sometimes, but it doesn't cause you to doubt who you are. There's a certain comfort to knowing your… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 07:55 PM |
| 18 | My response to "My Strenght"I think - I hope - the point is to show by parallel how ridiculous gender stereotyping goes on in the original ads. Not "sure, that is a problem but this is a problem too!" but "have you any idea how insulting that is?" But it could run afoul of the Michael Richard effect. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 04:27 PM |
| 16 | My response to "My Strenght"This is groan-inducingly embarrassing. But it is a fair parallel to the gender stereotyping that goes on in those other ads. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 04:22 PM |
| 3 | Got her attention! Don't know how to respond... I really want to talk to her about MRM.It's skep... no wait, she's just chick now. MRM = Men's rights movement. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 12:33 PM |
| 5 | Got her attention! Don't know how to respond... I really want to talk to her about MRM.I suppose she's now ... Femchick? Or maybe Chickchick? | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 12:32 PM |
| 0 | Women create 'pink ghettos' in PR and HR sectorsAgree strongly with the Realist of Earth who wrote: From experience, all female/all male workplaces are recipes for disaster and lack of productivity - not just for maternity leave issues, but the fact that women can be MEAN. I do think the gender imbalance in fields like HR and nursing is a problem, so I can't complain when feminists think gender imbalance in management is a problem. That doesn't mean quotas are a good solution, but it is definitively legitimate to take gender balance into conc… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 09:30 AM |
| 3 | Finland - Finns Party proposes Circumcision BanYeah, good that they're doing it, sad that they're probably doing it to signal their willingness to be tough on Muslims. Are there many Jews in Finland? If there are even a few prominent ones willing to speak up, I expect this proposal to be abandoned very quickly. Because if there's one thing the anti-muslims don't want to be seen as, it's anti-semitic, and it will be called that. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticFor the majority of social pressures on men, assaults on identity are not involved. If I become a bum, I'm scorned - but society does not stop seeing me as a male. It's just that my maleness would become a liability rather than an asset. They may say "you're not a real man", but what they really mean is "you're one of the low quality men, not one of the good men". Now I'm not saying all male-bodied are apexuals; I'm saying apexuals don't have a positive male identity and don't identify with othe… | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 06:47 AM |
| 13 | GirlWritesWhat: I know you are okay with your circumcision, but...You know, most circumcised women don't, either. There have been surveys. Most circumcised women (who have not been subject to the worst variety) still are able to enjoy sex. Physically, and mostly socially as well, it's women who perpetuate that practice. That doesn't mean it's OK. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 06:31 AM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticThat's assuming identity crisis can make you kill yourself and deep unhappiness is not enough. | /r/MensRights | 07/03/12 05:13 AM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticI have read your transcript. That we do not have a strong in-group affection to other men doesn't mean we don't have an identity. You could even argue the opposite, that because men are so confident about who we are, we don't need the comfort of a protective gender guild. Even the word 'man' amounts to a list of chores that society demands that you do before you have an identity. No, not an identity. Social value, sure, but my point is that we keep our identity, our knowledge of who and what we … | /r/MensRights | 06/03/12 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticI'm not entirely convinced about this identity thing of yours. It's true, men don't have a strong identity as men - and I am no exception - but we don't suffer from an identity crisis from lack of an identity. No more than women do. IME, men and women who grew up without a father tend to have an unstable sense of self - a bit more prone to radical conversions, life-style turn arounds, doing stupid things to seek acceptance, admiration, attention. But normal, healthy men don't seem to have this n… | /r/MensRights | 06/03/12 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Why Feminism is Wrong about the Patriarchy | GendErraticWell, if we are to take this theory seriously at all, the first thing we have to admit is that it is only true to a degree. Not all men fight in status hierarchies. Not all men are shunned if they do not. It varies greatly with time and place how much men are expected to sacrifice. It's not something manufactured at all. That's one of the errors of patriarchy theory 1.0, an inheritance from vulgar Marxism, which is conspiratorial in nature. No one has to want it for it to happen. It is probably … | /r/MensRights | 06/03/12 09:24 PM |
| 18 | Flip the sexes in comments about how men should have no post-conception choice about being a father and hey presto! You have Rick Santorum.We could make a quiz. Did Santorum say it about women, or did feminists say it about men? | /r/MensRights | 06/03/12 04:26 PM |
| 3 | Misogyny is commonly brought up on r/MRA and end up being long discussionsAtheists outnumber Christians about twenty to one on reddit. It's not exactly surprising that r/christianity wants to do other things than defend themselves from them all the time. | /r/MensRights | 06/03/12 03:20 PM |
| 2 | On NAFALTI know that. I just forgot. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 10:30 PM |
| 2 | On NAFALTIn a moment of dumbness, since you spoke of movements I tried to figure out what kind of movement NAFALT was. National association for ... uh... | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 09:00 PM |
| 2 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?Fair enough, I haven't noticed enough of your comments, I saw your karma and thought you were an SRS troll based on your username. Sorry about that. I'm all for a treshold that includes all people who in good faith identify with the subreddit, including (especially, actually) people I disagree with on important issues. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 03:08 PM |
| 1 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?In my proposed survey, we would only ask people who have posted here for a good while and achieved some minimum positive karma here. SRSers don't have the attention span for submarine trolls, they wouldn't get invite links. Invite links shouldn't be reusable, so if one troll slips though, it wouldn't make a meaningful dent on the statistics. I don't get it. Do people think it's impossible to do a legitimate survey over the internet? | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 02:57 PM |
| 1 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?Anyone with two eyes can see that being against feminism is not the same as being against women. But there are people here with controversial opinions. It's very easy for a smear merchant to hold these people up as "examples" of us. Although those smear merchants don't act in good faith and can't be convinced, many of the people they preach for do. Busting such cherry-picking with hard numbers is a good thing. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 02:39 PM |
| 1 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?The least we could ask as a treshold for being considered a part of this community, is net positive karma. Go take one with SRS Edit: Sorry. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 02:32 PM |
| 1 | I'd like to share a personal achievement with you today.This is great. Nursing needs men. The field has been sadly feminized since its inception, and not in a nice way - I don't blame it on intrisic qualities of men or women, but the women who most want to become nurses tend to be traditionally inclined for the most part. Florence Nightingale was a total badass who pushed statistical methods and rigorous observation practice when she wasn't burying horse carcasses. She is considered the inventor of modern nursing, but many of the practices she pionee… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 01:04 PM |
| 2 | A Word On "Offending" People...Now, this isn't limited to reddit. I've been spending a lot of time watching some MRA videos on youtube (it's an easy way to see what your "average" MRA thinks, and I can get more stuff done). You think the "average" MRA makes youtube videos? | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 12:51 PM |
| 1 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?Could well be, but there are disadvantages to that. I obviously can't take your word for it for the purposes of such a survey. There are, however, more than enough users which have been around a long time, and I think it's these we should look at when telling the world who r/mensrights really are. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 12:27 PM |
| 1 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?I am absolutely in group 2. This is not a proposal to change ourselves, it's a proposal to document ourselves. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 12:10 PM |
| 1 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?I wasn't aware SRS had a survey. I doubt they are able to do it to my standards of seriousness. Link? Anyway, the point is to gather accurate information about members of this community's attitudes, beliefs and experiences, to combat the flow of smears about them. And uncover if minority viewpoints (left, right, whatever) are dominating the discourse. You're a three-month old account, so I probably wouldn't send a survey link to you, no offense intended. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 12:08 PM |
| 0 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?Quick on the trigger, are you? But anyway, didn't you get that this is not what I want? I want a survey of who the r/mensrights community actually are. So that if someone says somewhere else on reddit that "they're all misogynists who think women don't deserve to vote!" we could say "actually, only a (this small) percentage of regular /r/mensrights posters think women shouldn't be allowed to vote". Their typical anecdotal evidence (link to three-month old which says something eloquent followed b… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 12:04 PM |
| 1 | A better way of "shaking off our sexist reputation for the sake of being taken seriously": Survey?I've noticed all my recent submissions have been downvoted within a minute of being posted. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 09:31 AM |
| 1 | Son beats up bullies, this guy could need some advice - AskRedditDon't jump to conclusions here. It's rare for an actual bully victim to be able to beat up his harassers, because bullies seek out victims who aren't able or willing to do so. If you can deal with the harassment that way, odds are it wasn't bullying. On the other hand it's very rare for a 12 year old to suddenly beat up two girls for no reason. | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 09:28 AM |
| 9 | Rebecca Watson Attempts to Explain the MRMThey almost always rewrite reality as a personal narrative, and they're always the winner in their own story. Kinda ironic for an atheist, isn't it? | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 08:55 AM |
| -1 | A Right that Women have but Men don't - Rights that supersede the Privileges of certain Religious DoctrinesOf course, people who follow the cultural practice will often use religion to justify it - and sometimes religious leaders will help with that, other times they will resist. The Coptic Bishop Thomas of Cusae and Meir, for instance, managed to end female circumcision among his congregation - not by condemning it (although he did) but by basically paying off the women who had a commercial interest in continuing the practice. Many Muslim leaders oppose female circumcision too, but I haven't heard o… | /r/MensRights | 05/03/12 08:20 AM |
| 5 | What I immediately think whenever someone tries to argue that circumcision has health benefitsPerhaps cleaning your genitals with your tongue is so efficient it isn't needed? | /r/MensRights | 04/03/12 07:56 PM |
| 5 | What's the men's equivalent of slut shaming? Example provided.Fantastic how many "policemen" there are in that thread, making sure the young lonely men feel appropriately ashamed of their existence. You got to wonder about people like that who subscribe to a sub like that. | /r/MensRights | 04/03/12 07:18 AM |
| 5 | Can we change the title of /r/mensrights to something less angry?If you think "those people desire policies different from mine" is a good reason to deny someone the vote, then you don't understand the point of voting at all. But it's a common affliction to people on your fringe. You simply cannot recognize political opposition as legitimate. | /r/MensRights | 03/03/12 07:26 PM |
| 3 | What I don't like about the Obama health mandate.Politicians favor well-organized classes, and/or affluent classes. Feminists are hardly affluent (in the big picture) but they are highly organized and class-conscious. A great example of how men don't look after men's interests. Politicians of either sex naturally have little personal interest in the outcome of health care legislation, since they can buy all the health care they want (and have their own system anyway). But, because female legislators have class consciousness as women, they push… | /r/MensRights | 03/03/12 04:31 PM |
| 2 | [x-post] ah the young "feminist"A boycott doesn't actually prevent other people from shopping there, or even suggest that was the goal. Stupid as this is, there's no coercion here to complain about. | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 08:03 AM |
| 2 | On the use of "he" and "she"OK, saying it was a recent invention was wrong, it has a long tradition (and it's also common in other languages besides Engish). But so has "they", it is not modern as many think - and Anne Fisher's prescriptive grammar was instrumental in mandating it and rejecting "they". | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 07:40 AM |
| 2 | On the use of "he" and "she"An article in the NYT yesterday (that I linked to) pointed out that for English, "they" has in fact been the common pronoun. Shakespeare and Chaucer used it. "He" as the unspecified pronoun is a relatively recent invention, and it was popularized by a prescriptive grammar written by a schoolmistress. Yup, a woman is responsible for "patriarchal" language... | /r/MensRights | 02/03/12 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Actor Allan Cumming on Why Circumcision SucksPity they didn't print that, I thought it was positive and well-written. I suppose straight talk on genitals is still a little drastic for the WSJ. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 01:38 PM |
| 2 | Important Message for All Men: Please Read..Did the blog originally link to a specific article? Right now it redirects to the front page of an Australian Father's Rights organization. Not an evil organization exactly, but it still seems like most of the comments here are talking about some other article. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 01:24 PM |
| 4 | I didn't realise just how many more male suicides there were than female.Not to belittle the concerns of gays, but although more men are gay than women, you're still talking about a small percentage of men. Heterosexual men's suicide rate is still far higher than women's. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 12:56 PM |
| 3 | I didn't realise just how many more male suicides there were than female.If another human being has the ability to drive you to suicide, then you've got significantly more things wrong with you than women problems. Man up! Fixed that for you, to put your attitude on display. I've never considered suicide, but you obviously have no idea what "women problems" can entail. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 12:47 PM |
| 8 | I didn't realise just how many more male suicides there were than female.Why aren't men "attempting" suicide more often? I suppose they don't want to be seen as weak? "A cry for help" from a man will often be met with only increased scorn and angry demands to man up and get your act together. There's a reason men don't want to be seen as weak. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 12:45 PM |
| 1 | I didn't realise just how many more male suicides there were than female.Not that it would surprise me, but women in the FC system don't have any elevated suicide rate at all? | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 12:42 PM |
| 1 | "Structurelessness": 1970 feminist's critique of feminism, but very relevant to e.g wikipedia and r/anarchismI've far from given all my power to government. Even government's servants, whether they be policemen or bureucrats, also haven't given unconditional power to government. They aren't blinded by loyalty. So it can hardly do whatever it wants. I am fortunate to live in a country with a very low level of corruption, and me and my fellow citizens rarely feel powerless or helpless in the face of government. Sure, it could be better, but on the big issues, they do as they're told. That's why the "powe… | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 09:47 AM |
| 1 | "Structurelessness": 1970 feminist's critique of feminism, but very relevant to e.g wikipedia and r/anarchismIt's not actually about free market economics, so understandably the treatment of that is pretty quick and shallow. But the general principle holds: Power doesn't go away, nor does it trickle down equally to individuals. If we don't take care who we give power to, then someone will take it, whether through social, economic or violent means. A policy of wishing to take power away from someone, e.g. central government, is incomplete without also saying who will be given that power. | /r/MensRights | 01/03/12 09:25 AM |
| 1 | An example of lying with statistics regarding sexual assault / domestic violence.For the vast majority of cases, we simply don't know if the accusation was false. I absolutely agree it's unacceptable to count them as valid. The standard way of checking recall bias, is to compare answers about different time scales, e.g. Have you been victimized this month vs. This year. To see how much people forget - or worse, come to reinterpret events as crimes. I think I have actually seen a study that suggested this was happening, but I can't dig it up from my phone. | /r/MensRights | 29/02/12 07:53 PM |
| 1 | An example of lying with statistics regarding sexual assault / domestic violence.Come on, disregarding information collected through phone surveys is not serious. For one thing, it's not even very common to use phone surveys. For another, the problems associated with recall are well understood and taken into account in high quality studies. And "anecdotes"? You might as well say physics is invalid, because we only have anecdotes from physicists who claim to have done this or that experiment or measurement. Get real. It's not that I think false accusations are rare, or that t… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/12 04:45 PM |
| 2 | An example of lying with statistics regarding sexual assault / domestic violence.Question: how would the "threat" of a polygraph scare someone who is telling the truth into lying? This isn't really a mystery. If you have an impressionable person with little mental self-confidence, you can quite often convince them to give a false confession even without an authorative, scary machine telling them it's true. It doesn't happen often with mentally confident people such as ourselves. But it's basically the same phenomenon as gaslighting. The victim is manipulated into doubting hi… | /r/MensRights | 29/02/12 10:14 AM |
| 5 | Female Privilege Wikipedia article under attack by feminists, support it!Wikipedia is a political hellhole, in part because they are (at least publicly) in denial about their hierarchy and power games. You do know the radfem wing there is going to use the existence of this link as an excuse to disregard results they don't like, I hope? Let them. Let wikipedia sink. It's better that it gets recognized for what it is, than that you should spend so much time playing their games just to get a slightly less obnoxious article. | /r/MensRights | 29/02/12 06:24 AM |
| 4 | Crappy article criticises young men for not 'growing up' - The Sorry Lives and Confusing Times of Today's Young MenI remember being told that around seventh grade as we were eating waffles for some occasion I can't remember. The two girls in class (four boys) were snorting being disgusting with the food and making a terrible mess with jam and brown cheese all over the place. "Right," I thought for myself, and quietly decided I would be the judge of that in any particular case. Maybe reaction to such bullshit is why I found it comparatively easy to resist peer pressure and not do lots of things teenagers do t… | /r/MensRights | 28/02/12 07:11 PM |
| 7 | The entire world is programmed against women...apparently.Karl Popper actually recognised that unfalsifiable doesn't mean "not real", nor quite useless. But I think that everyone should read his criticism of psychoanalysis and marxism as sciences, and notice how easily it applies to (radical) feminism (and many other rejection-proof thought systems as well). | /r/MensRights | 28/02/12 06:51 PM |
| 1 | The entire world is programmed against women...apparently.Depends a lot on which social class you are speaking of, I think. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/12 06:41 PM |
| 5 | The entire world is programmed against women...apparently.Good to hear this isn't entirely seriously meant. | /r/MensRights | 28/02/12 06:39 PM |
| 31 | Crappy article criticises young men for not 'growing up' - The Sorry Lives and Confusing Times of Today's Young MenSince "always". It's one of the traditional privileges of the gender role, having to do with raising children. You don't expect women like Sandy Hingston to give up that just because they're modern, do you? | /r/MensRights | 28/02/12 03:20 PM |
| 0 | Women firefightersActually, the classic example of comparative advantage is that you should let your children help you with gardening the way they're best at, even if they do that and any other particular gardening task slower than you... | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 12:25 PM |
| 1 | Women firefightersWhether they are good at other stuff is irrelevant, men can be good at that too. Comparative advantage suggests that even if men were strictly better on cop-related attributes than women, for some women cop would be the best job. And then it's better to let some of these women be cops, and use (even) a better qualified man for something else. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 11:06 AM |
| 3 | My recent observation of feminismDo you know anything about psychology, at all? Do you think the term "sociopath" or "Antisocial personality disorder" is provable through scientific experimentation? Great example you brought up, because there are many definitions of psychopathy which ARE indeed unfalsifiable. Where for instance all non-psychopathic behavior can be explained away as concealment and duplicity. It has also been a huge problem with other psychological diagnoses, e.g. "The patient suffers from the delusion that he i… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 10:58 AM |
| 3 | How I feel after reading comments from feminist(long'ish post)Second the recommendation of Feminist Critics. Along with Genderratic, feckblog and Pelle Billing's blog (which is in Swedish only, unfortunately). Also "Of Fathers, Men and Boys" by AvfM writer Kyle Lovett, and "The unknown history of MISANDRY" by Robert St Estephe. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 10:26 AM |
| 5 | How I feel after reading comments from feminist(long'ish post)Does anyone have any recommendations for good books regarding non-biased perspective of the lives of men and women anywhere between 18-21 century in the United States? Warren Farrell, The Myth of Male Power is one I can personally recommend as I've read it myself. There may be other books which are more focused on history, but quite a lot is covered. There was a post on AVfM recently by one Robert St. Estephe, which took up many interesting historical questions: http://www.avoiceformen.com/men/m… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 09:58 AM |
| 2 | My recent observation of feminismAhh, and here we get to the point where anything that is a part of feminism is defined as "rad fem" so that you can pretend that it's all radical and crazy and such. Not at all. There is a reasonable branch of feminism, where I live it may even be the majority type. But expressions like "male gaze" belong in a different branch. Well, I wasn't exactly posting a "rebuttal", go*ns. Because so far you have only used the term "male gaze" for unsupported assertions. In your eyes, is "male gaze" a scie… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 09:21 AM |
| 3 | Women firefightersBut what are the skills actually needed for a policeman? Or a firefighter for that matter? I'd take a smart cop who knows how to defuse a situation over a strong cop any day. In fact, if said smart cop lacked one arm from the elbow down, I'd say it would be an awful shame to disqualify him based on that. Lots of skills are needed in today's world. It annoys me that people who should know better speak as if competence was a variable with a single dimension. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 08:34 AM |
| 3 | My recent observation of feminismbelieving anything told to you by someone who shares your perspectives This is really ironic, considering we're speaking of "male gaze". It's a classical rad-fem belief, in that men aren't allowed to question it (because that would prove they're oppressors) and women aren't allowed to question it (because that would prove they're brainwashed by the patriarchy). "Male gaze" isn't scientific jargon. It's ideological jargon. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 08:26 AM |
| 0 | My recent observation of feminismMore like it's hard to get a publisher on board with something like that unless it has a huge cult following. Fighter's Destiny, Nintendo 64. Only two female characters (unless you count the cow), but one is fully clothed, the other is dressed approximately as for an aerobics class. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 08:13 AM |
| 1 | My recent observation of feminismit's simply a modern take of the throwback men's club schtick Enlighten me about the sitcoms from the sixties with this theme. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 08:03 AM |
| -2 | My recent observation of feminismPeople with that amount of muscles have trouble sitting down in a normal manner. Looking at the odds, you're better off shooting heroin or taking amphetamines than steroids - at least if you're representative of people doing this in Sweden. A heroin addict lives on average ten years longer. Perhaps something to keep in mind when talking about unhealthy body ideals. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 08:01 AM |
| 6 | My recent observation of feminismAn extremely influental abuse intervention program that left thousands of men to a life of abuse and despair, and other men to unjust incarceration and debt slavery. A bit worse than "mediocre" in my book. The ideals of feminism doesn't come into this. You have to judge an ideology based on what it manages to bring about, not only what it supposedly wants to bring about. | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 07:52 AM |
| 4 | My recent observation of feminismI wonder: Do you notice which subreddit you are in? Do you think people here are in the habit of accepting gender studies dogma like "male gaze" without question? | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 07:39 AM |
| 2 | My recent observation of feminismI know next to nothing about Street Fighter, though, so I can't actually speak to whether or not this is an example of objectification. Well, this is your chance to look it up, then. I know nothing about street fighter either, but the "partisan" dress of that woman suggests she has about the same level of character blurb as he other characters. The only thing the other character has is a vaguely Russian-sounding name and hairstyle. Does that give him more agency, personality, etc.? | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 07:35 AM |
| 2 | My recent observation of feminismWe're seeing a bit of social legacy there. At one time most products were targeted at men because men were assumed to be the breadwinners. Was this article linked to from somewhere or something? Because if you had been a regular reader of r/mr, you'd know this is wrong. Yeah, men were the breadwinners in the sixties, but even long before that women were the breadbuyers. Even today, women spend more than men, even earning less in absolute terms. So the claim here that "the male gaze is catered to… | /r/MensRights | 27/02/12 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Radical feminist group marginalizes woman's day march by calling for closing of a centre helping prostitutesThat centre was needed. Is needed. Don't worry, they're not going to succeed in shutting it down. Probably they achieved the exact opposite with this... | /r/MensRights | 24/02/12 08:00 PM |
| 1 | Radical feminist group marginalizes woman's day march by calling for closing of a centre helping prostitutesI should point out that the more mainstream organisation (kvinnefronten, women's front) is also for criminalisation of buying sex. They do in other words disagree with the PRO centre. They just balk at the idea of closing it down as punishment for disagreeing. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/12 07:59 PM |
| 2 | Another "If The Genders Were Reversed" , the Whack Your Boyfriend game for Android.Sure it's tasteless, but that's not a crime! Not a crime, no. However, if an app "is pornographic, obscene or otherwise violates Google's hosting policies" it is not legal to sell on Android Market according to the TOS. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/12 02:22 PM |
| 1 | Another "If The Genders Were Reversed" , the Whack Your Boyfriend game for Android.Could be just shill accounts from the publisher. Then again, Android app reviews are often more stupid than YouTube comments.. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/12 02:17 PM |
| 4 | Denied seeing my son ... need adviceGood advice. It would seem she is either delusional (the kind of person who honestly will believe whatever suits her) or counting on our man to break down and give up. | /r/MensRights | 24/02/12 07:26 AM |
| 14 | Judge: Jail for Facebook rant..."he blasted the situation and the judicial system he believed wronged him."Well, now you removed all doubt about that, judge. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/12 08:42 PM |
| 4 | I never used to notice how normal/acceptable it is to be suspicious of men who are just minding their own business... (expost exmormon)/r/magicskyfairy IS an SRS group. It was formed to laugh at atheists when one of them had the temerity to suggests atheists were a disadvantaged group on par with women and non-whites. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/12 11:44 AM |
| 1 | I never used to notice how normal/acceptable it is to be suspicious of men who are just minding their own business... (expost exmormon)It was a very interesting result, but it needs to be tested on a random sample of the population rather than the subset of it that frequent OKCupid. Why aren't those gender studies professors doing that? | /r/MensRights | 23/02/12 09:33 AM |
| 9 | This made me more angry than it should have. Why? Because people actually believe this.Yeah, and you know what? We have fricking milk glands. Yeah, that's right. Not as many as women, but we have them. It has happened on occasion that poor third-world widowers have literally nursed their own children. There are also some gay men who do it. It's OK to be grossed out by this in my book. I know I am. But after one is done with that, one ought to reflect on the fact that maybe, just maybe, biology gives us more options than one would have thought. | /r/MensRights | 23/02/12 08:34 AM |
| 4 | I never used to notice how normal/acceptable it is to be suspicious of men who are just minding their own business... (expost exmormon)No problem, very informative. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 09:11 PM |
| 7 | I never used to notice how normal/acceptable it is to be suspicious of men who are just minding their own business... (expost exmormon)Two men in a car reading scriptures? Highly suspicious. But I don't quite understand the context here, what does this have to do with mormons? | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 08:22 PM |
| 2 | girlwriteswhat | How feminism conned society, and other not-so-tall tales... - YouTubeWho is this John Jay Ray guy at tripod that you keep bringing up as an authority on the Right and Proper Definitions of Words? | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 10:47 AM |
| 5 | girlwriteswhat | How feminism conned society, and other not-so-tall tales... - YouTubeNice to see your conservative love for free speech. The concept that I label power conservatism, exists. The label is less important. Label it whatever suits you. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 09:02 AM |
| 3 | girlwriteswhat | How feminism conned society, and other not-so-tall tales... - YouTubeI realise you rather would like to talk about that, but it's completely irrelevant to how power conservative feminism is. I have defined what I mean by it, and the concept as I use it has nothing to do with big or small government. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 08:24 AM |
| 2 | girlwriteswhat | How feminism conned society, and other not-so-tall tales... - YouTubeThere are many types of conservative. There are certainly many good institutions that deserve to be conserved from overeager reformers. And naturally all self-identified conservatives see themselves in this group. But the conservatism that's problematic, and very few positively identify with, is what I call power conservatism. What the power conservative really wants to preserve, is existing relationships of power. Regardless of whether the powerful are the wealthy, the military, or the revoluti… | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 07:56 AM |
| 10 | girlwriteswhat | How feminism conned society, and other not-so-tall tales... - YouTubeFeminists may be a minority, but women are in fact a majority. | /r/MensRights | 22/02/12 07:37 AM |
| 2 | Factchecking the GoRed campaignThis does seem the more plausible explanation, sadly. But the organization in question is nominally an interest group for people suffering from cardiovascular suggested - shouldn't they, of all people, know? I saw from their page that they decided on their last congress on a public statement that women die more from cardiovascular disease. Which is utterly wrong as far as I can see. | /r/MensRights | 21/02/12 03:51 PM |
| 6 | I got banned, without warning, from OneY for talking about the feminization of men in modern society.It seems to me like masculine traits are viewed as "wrong" in our society. Seems like men are trained to be more and more feminine every year. Well, then it may be you have ideas of what's masculine and what's feminine that go a bit beyond what's dictated by biology. Probably the oneY mods thought you were trolling. I don't support the idea that we should just "accept" that men are more rational and women are more emotional. Mainly because far too many women get a free pass for emotional impulsi… | /r/MensRights | 21/02/12 03:02 PM |
| 3 | Factchecking the GoRed campaignThanks. Yes, I wonder what on earth they're thinking. The organization behind this isn't what I thought of as especially feminist, so why do they say such things? | /r/MensRights | 21/02/12 02:55 PM |
| 2 | article posted in /technology..."Why Your Next Board Member Should Be A Woman."a significant drop in the stock price at the announcement of the law This reflects beliefs about the law, not effect of the law. and a large decline in Tobin’s Q over the following years A pretty indirect measure you've got there. I don't put much faith in this, because it seems board positions are distributed much like medieval monarch marriages: Alliance building, and rewards. It's a lot of money for little, overrated work - evidence for both of these statements you can find from looking at ho… | /r/MensRights | 20/02/12 11:02 AM |
| 3 | Gawker Media - the company that owns Gawker AND Jezebel - makes money advertising a porn site that offers 'stolen' porn videos taken from the 'hacked' social network accounts of teens and schoolgirls.Many searches coming up say that it was sold. No matter, supporting evidence Gawker will sell anything for clicks. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/12 09:43 AM |
| 2 | Do Men in Power Advocate for Men? | GendErraticYup, John Lott is a hack, a laughably dishonest academic on call for promoting any right-wing cause. Google Mary Rosh for a good laugh. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/12 07:49 AM |
| 10 | School gender achievement gap explained: woman teachers discriminate against boysNot exactly, because as you can see from the article, male teachers graded girls fairly (consistent with external examinators who didn't know students' gender). Both favor their own gender, but female teachers punish the other gender as well. | /r/MensRights | 17/02/12 05:48 AM |
| 5 | I believe a girl at my school is trying to hurt herself in front of me and blame it on me, recently I got detention for physically hurting her, what can I do? (x post from /r/askreddit)I smell two. | /r/MensRights | 15/02/12 07:46 AM |
| 7 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeYou know what? Stick your head out, like GWW did. Make a youtube channel, show your face to the world, and explain how what she just said didn't matter. Then maybe you are worth spending another second on. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 05:36 PM |
| 3 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeThat's not spelling it out differently, that's something different, and irrelevant to whether SRS are hypocritical in making circumcision "jokes". | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 05:33 PM |
| 2 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeSorry I attempted to engage you in discussion. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 05:26 PM |
| 4 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeThat is a very common fallacy. "Other people make actions, they must be held responsible for them, but my actions are just a consequence. The people who provoked me to do it are responsible." It's the demand of punishing, abusive people everywhere: my response to your actions must be taken as a force of nature. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 04:52 PM |
| 7 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeTry again. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 04:49 PM |
| 11 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeDo men face problems? Sure. Are they the fault of feminism? No. That's dumb as hell. You are familiar with the concrete issues, I take it? Such as feminist groups -mainstream feminist groups - fighting legislation aimed at giving fathers equal rights in child custody cases? And fighting to keep "women and children" language in DV laws, funding for development, assistance, shelters etc.? Remember, many of us have actually run into these issues personally. Including some of the "reactionaries" her… | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 04:44 PM |
| 6 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeNo, don't. It's not a good faith effort. Do not talk to an SRSer anywhere they can delete your posts. They have already decided that anything is fair game in hurting MRAs, including gross misrepresentation (e.g. Editing posts to make you look bad), and lying about anything. If you must talk to them, do it somewhere they aren't in charge. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 04:31 PM |
| 9 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeThey make "jokes" which are just deliberate tastelessness of the worst kind, but they would have been outraged if anyone made similar jokes about girls. We get that they do it to be offensive. It's the hypocrisy that is the problem. And I hope you understand this: Many people on SRS sincerely believe that making such "jokes" about boys is really no big deal, because men are privileged. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 04:19 PM |
| 11 | The ugly truth behind the anti-men's rights crusadeTo quote Typhonblue's latest blog post (fits nice with the OP's quote, I think): It’s frustrating to argue with people and realize that what you’re really arguing with is their inability to see men as worthy of compassion. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 11:11 AM |
| 2 | So a number of you asked about a Men's Rights IRC server...Due to how much time and resources (and experience) our haters have with these things, it's probably not worth it unless it's operated at an invite-only basis, or at least with restricted rights to random users. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 08:56 AM |
| 3 | Doubt that it would be allowed on the market if it was the other way around...Hmmm, this app sure demands a lot of permissions, including to dial any number on behalf of the user (apart from emergency numbers). Could be these people aim to court controversy to attract attention and then scam users. | /r/MensRights | 14/02/12 08:53 AM |
| 2 | Chicago Now article - 'Children's playgrounds breed heterosexual hegemonic patriarchal hierarchies of male privilege' - Wait, what?Real headline: in-house coder at CN writes Markov chain sentence generator, challenges colleague to write actual article using it. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/12 07:14 PM |
| 11 | upon reddit's policy change and removal of all subreddits sexualizing minors, well known blogger and Gawker writer tweets "do /mensrights next." not /niggers, not /radicalfeminism, not any other truly offensive or extreme subreddit...just us.The core is a bunch of severely disturbed individuals who got hooked on certain online boards around when Something Awful was big (10+ years ago). Maybe their lives were messed up before, since they had so much time to spend climbing to the top in the social hierarchy on those sites - but probably, their obsession was also a contributing factor to their further decline. Being a shock image forum addict is about the least socially acceptable form of victimhood there is, so some looked to hyperzea… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/12 03:24 PM |
| 5 | upon reddit's policy change and removal of all subreddits sexualizing minors, well known blogger and Gawker writer tweets "do /mensrights next." not /niggers, not /radicalfeminism, not any other truly offensive or extreme subreddit...just us.I wouldn't be surprised that it's some kind of coordinated effort on outside blogs and chat rooms somewhere doing this shit. It absolutely is. They use IRC. It's a much faster and smoother way to call in a downvote brigade than a submission. They don't even make much of a secret of it, the IRC channels are advertised right in the sidebars of r/mr's hater channels. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/12 03:12 PM |
| 3 | upon reddit's policy change and removal of all subreddits sexualizing minors, well known blogger and Gawker writer tweets "do /mensrights next." not /niggers, not /radicalfeminism, not any other truly offensive or extreme subreddit...just us.I remember hearing about that and thinking, wow, no matter how offensive the kid was, that was a shitty thing of Uwe Boll to do. Now... I still don't approve, but I suppose I understand his actions a bit more. | /r/MensRights | 13/02/12 03:08 PM |
| 9 | Had A Painful Conversation With This Girl TodayEducational paths is a choice, race is not. The problem is not those who chose less economically profitable degrees, but those who complain about income gap while not realising the choice they've personally made to contribute to it. I'm very for art history. But when so many want to study it compared to how many jobs there are in it, they push wages downwards. But what I don't get, is why so few get to study e.g. medicine when there is a lack of doctors, and so many get to study folkloristics wh… | /r/MensRights | 13/02/12 01:49 PM |
| 9 | Considering women won't date you unless you have your own place and have income comparable or better than theirs, aren't they a large variable in keeping the patriarchy going?This. In reality, many of the women on that site would probably be happy with college war vet ragnar if they met him in real life, but when they see him online with dozens of people who (claim to) have what he has plus material things aplenty... People aren't really as shallow as they seem on online dating sites. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/12 06:11 PM |
| 1 | r/mensrights has an image problemForgot how to use punctuation and capital letters? Sure, that's a good way to evade detection for a little while, but it's a little late for this one. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/12 05:55 PM |
| 1 | r/mensrights has an image problemSince you're apparently familiar with Aerik's posting history even in subreddits you don't follow, I'll take that as a confession. Or to say it in the way Aerik would say it (and remarkably few others in a reddit discussion): "You're lying. Stop lying." Edit: also remarkable your post had two upvotes, just after you posted it, beneath the "view more comments" threshold far down on a day old post. Tsk tsk, that's against the TOS, Aerik. | /r/MensRights | 12/02/12 11:55 AM |
| 2 | r/mensrights has an image problemM->F transsexual, as I understand. As confirmed as anything typically gets about reddit users. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/12 08:26 AM |
| 1 | r/mensrights has an image problemWriting style? Check. Extremely self-serving reading comprehension? Check. Anger management issues? Check. I suppose it's a good thing she can be identified like that, because it means there aren't many people that bad. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/12 08:10 AM |
| 2 | r/mensrights has an image problemNow where did I see it... There have actually been studies on how good men and women in relationships are at reading each other's emotions. Turns out women overestimate their abilities at reading men, and men underestimate their ability to read women (there were also big individual differences, some people are just natural poker players). That's emotions (and I can't find the link, help me r/mr?), but is it such a stretch to think it affects other areas? One of the best ways to stop people from … | /r/MensRights | 11/02/12 07:57 AM |
| 2 | r/mensrights has an image problemThis person sounds like Aerik's puppet. Waste of time. | /r/MensRights | 11/02/12 07:46 AM |
| 2 | r/mensrights has an image problemWhat part of "I don't think shock advertising is OK" don't you understand? The lowlife who made those ads wanted them to draw attention for their misogyny. That sucks, but it means the existence of those ads does not imply society at large is misogynistic. The ad is basically trolling. The abused man ad, though, was not intended as a shock ad. The reaction the advertiser sought wasn't outrage, but laughter. This makes it worse. There may also be genuinely misogynistic ads out there, certainly. B… | /r/MensRights | 11/02/12 07:40 AM |
| 1 | In Sweden its now considerd a male priviledge for men to sit with their legs apart on public transport.By some people in Sweden. There's actually a sensible part of Sweden, they're not just so skilled at making noise. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 03:45 PM |
| 1 | She called me a "manwhore"If that ex had any brains, she wouldn't have tried to "slut shame" her ex. Why, when perv shaming/creep shaming is so much more effective on men? | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 03:19 PM |
| -1 | People are Mean to My WifeI said I do not recommend it. What part of that don't you understand? In principle there's nothing wrong with it, it can make economic sense. In practice, there's no way a husband should trust a wife that much (yeah, not even when he takes the homemaker side of it). | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 02:37 PM |
| 2 | People are Mean to My WifeAs I asked, what's the difference between working for money to buy desirable things (like a nice home and good food), and just working directly for those goals? It can be a legitimate choice. Economically, if one partner makes more than enough money already, the desirable things that can be bought with more available time become all the more valuable, compared to the modest contribution from an additional, much smaller income. But as I also said I do not recommend it. A legitimate choice doesn't… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 02:19 PM |
| 0 | Campus warrior against political correctness"A voice for men" at its worst, casting men's right as only a flower in a cornucopia of right-wing grievances. Yeah, parts of academia do on occasion turn into circlejerk. Know what's NOT going to solve that particular problem? Quotas. It's a bit ridicuous that I must say that here, of all places. Quotas based on political allegiance was what Horowitz wanted. The commenters' idea, of mandatory "opposing voices" courses, is equally wrongheaded. In any particular case, it may sound like a good ide… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 02:10 PM |
| 1 | I just had this exchange on Facebook. Any thoughts?If I wanted to highlight female philosophers, I'd highlight Hannah Arendt and pass by Ayn Rand in silence... | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 12:56 PM |
| 2 | Feminists upset because law meant to allow women to get away with murder is being used by men too."People with a certain ideology suddenly found themselves in power" isn't a satisfying explanation to me. And where are the papers Julia Gillard published analyzing the SCUM manifesto anyway? Doesn't seem like the stereotypical radical feminist to me. Gillard seems to me more of an opportunist than an ideologue. Just like the vast majority of top politicians. If she still pushed man-hostile policy, you got to ask where those ideas came from, and why (this was the original issue, remember) in Aus… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 11:55 AM |
| 2 | Feminists upset because law meant to allow women to get away with murder is being used by men too.Can you really pin it on one individual like that? After all, that person has to come from somewhere. It seems to me that the entire anglosphere - in particular Australia and the US, but also UK - has a variety of feminism that is pretty toxic, and little seen elsewhere. It wouldn't be the first time ideology spread along language lines. Take a non-anglosphere country that is reputed to be extremely feminist, namely Sweden. Are there radical feminists of the Solanas variety there? You bet. Even … | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 10:58 AM |
| 2 | People are Mean to My WifeIt doesn't have to take all day, but no question you can achieve a lot more (both in the areas of cooking and general home care) if you use all day for it. Some people value this highly, which is no surprise - great food made from basic ingredients and a well kept, classy living space are high-status things today. If those are the things you want to use your money for getting anyway, well, it might make sense to skip the middle step if you can. But I don't recommend it. I was in the same positio… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 10:27 AM |
| 7 | Really? I cant even think of wordsThose ads are tasteless, but they're supposed to shock the viewers. It's an example of what they call shockvertising. As a commenter points out, the fashion industry has done this for quite a while. The Zachary's ad, on the other hand, wasn't intended to shock, rather to make people laugh. Which it failed miserably at. Which is why (unlike deliberate shock ads) it was withdrawn. I don't think shock advertising is OK either, for what it's worth. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 08:57 AM |
| 2 | Really? I cant even think of wordsYou guys should Wait, aren't you one of us? Why not? I agree that a quantitative approach is more valuable, though. Such ads prove only that ads sexist against men exist, and frankly, these days people who contest that are rarely worth engaging. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 08:48 AM |
| 6 | Really? I cant even think of wordsThat is very newsworthy. I knew the ad was old, but if they have changed their ways, that is great. Do you have any more information on this? | /r/MensRights | 10/02/12 08:45 AM |
| 5 | I love how the whiny feminist morality brigade upvotes a user named "ICumWhenIKillMen."WDIHTST: I suspect that to me, you're just as unreachable as the people SRS love to just write off and justify trolling. But since I noticed it's possible to explain a few basic error without even touching your gender-related beliefs, I'll give it a try. You write about "the sex roles that men have put in place long ago". This is a classical example of both conspiratorial and historicist thinking. Conspiratorial, because you assume that the present state of affairs must be (or have been) conscio… | /r/MensRights | 09/02/12 02:51 PM |
| 3 | no, female privilege doesn't exist...Yeah, but this is in fact a rather trivial example. Sentencing disparity and disparity in emergency support (like shelters) are far more important. Both of those have roots in the sympathy disparity. For the same reason PETA gets more support if they put a fox on their posters as opposed to a rat, men get the short end of the stick if there's any benefit to sympathy. We just haven't got the fluffy bunny factor. We are not expected to feel sympathy for political and business leaders, though. Quit… | /r/MensRights | 07/02/12 07:54 AM |
| 1 | Breast Cancer Doesn't Discriminate Against Men » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the ACLUA distraction? No, they're either a powerful enemy or a powerful ally, depending on your point of view. They pour more money into advancing right-wing causes than any other individuals. Also, the ACLU. | /r/MensRights | 07/02/12 07:38 AM |
| 0 | 'The Great Scam'.Reading here, I often think of studies I would have liked to do if I did gender studies. Like anonymously asking people to figure out how common cheating with prevention is. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 03:24 PM |
| 3 | Disgusting Super Bowl ad. (Oikos Yogurt)I disagree somewhat. I would prefer a world where both versions of the ad would be considered bad taste, to one where both versions would be considered cute and funny. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Disgusting Super Bowl ad. (Oikos Yogurt)It seems half of your posts are like this. Not that there's anything wrong with it, you probably would be very annoying otherwise. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Czech Railways to introduce women-only wagons in their trains (Source google-translated)Band aid, and worse than a band aid. Because there probably exists a guy somewhere who thinks, "Why, she didn't step on the women only wagon, she can't possibly mind being groped". It just isn't a solution to anyone's concerns to institute new special privileges. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 11:48 AM |
| 2 | "The Salvation Army, the only consistent resource for homeless men, says that the majority of the men for whom they provide services are working fathers paying child support."Yes and no. Yes, it's the same organization, founded by William Booth, but something happened that made the American national organization diverge from the rest of the world quite a bit. Two things, actually: The rise of the religious right in the USA. The Kroc estate. Joan Kroc, wife of the McDonalds founder Ray Kroc (who inherited his fortune), testamented 1.5 billion dollars to the Salvation Army, on the condition that it was used in the US exclusively. The SA debated whether such terms were … | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 08:59 AM |
| 2 | Men Will Spend Twice as Much as Women for Valentine's DayI had heard of this issue, and I have avoided chocolate that isn't Fair Trade certified for a while. But that the issue is such a sharply gendered one, had passed me by until now - no surprise that this isn't pointed out, sadly. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 08:49 AM |
| 6 | Men Will Spend Twice as Much as Women for Valentine's DayIt doesn't have to be a shallow money-grubber. Norms are such that individuals who aren't shallow money-grubbers by nature will often be socialized to act as such. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 08:44 AM |
| 3 | Breast Cancer Doesn't Discriminate Against Men » Blog of Rights: Official Blog of the ACLUThe Koch brothers have donated a lot to ACLU. You're the one who insists on marrying all your beliefs under a right wing banner, most people (including the aforementioned billionaires) live in a less black and white world. | /r/MensRights | 06/02/12 07:28 AM |
| 2 | Uncircumcised Men and Their PartnersVery good to see an article like this at a women-oriented site. The comments are good too. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/12 08:20 AM |
| 1 | Objectification and sexism in video gamesGood article. You should post it somewhere it'd get more attention. | /r/MensRights | 03/02/12 07:38 AM |
| 3 | Gender is bumming me out - girlwriteswhat - YouTubeYes, existing hunter-gatherer societies are overrepresented in areas marginal for agriculture, but there are some who aren't. Either way, wouldn't you think those in marginal lands, like the Kalahari bushmen, would be less egalitarian and have sharper gender divisions if that was better for survival? There is also a gradient of harsh environments, surely we could tell by that if one end bucked the trend? But they don't. If you look at the wiki page, you'll see that this argument has been conside… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/12 03:41 PM |
| 3 | Gender is bumming me out - girlwriteswhat - YouTubeWhoa! Someone who doesn't just assume he already knows :) The go-to science, cultural anthropology, isn't exactly "hard", though. It's as much connected to the social sciences and the humanities as natural science, but is a great example of why the two latter categories shouldn't be dismissed. We can't directly examine prehistoric societies, but we know a great deal about the societies that exist today that resemble them the most: foraging (also called hunter-gatherer) bands. I quote the wikiped… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/12 10:24 AM |
| 2 | You know why /r/mensrights is so pro-free speech...I am neither a woman nor a citizen of the United States of America, so it simply isn't my business to tell you what US women's concerns are. What I want to tell you, is that justice isn't a zero-sum game. If injustice is done to me, it doesn't matter if greater injustice is done to someone else. If you want to go on comparing instead of adressing the injustices, yes, then you make it into a competition. An olympics of oppression. Just like feminists. A competition you're going to lose because th… | /r/MensRights | 02/02/12 08:47 AM |
| 2 | You know why /r/mensrights is so pro-free speech...When you refuse to entertain even the notion that women have legitimate issues - not even saying that they in sum have more privileges than disadvantages, but they have zero disadvantages - then you're rapidly becoming the mirror image of a feminist of the worst kind. Your shaming talk of shaming talk, that's on par for the course too. | /r/MensRights | 02/02/12 06:01 AM |
| 3 | Hi r/MensRights, I am taking a Psychology course this semester and we are discussing whether or not men suffer depression as often as women.Yeah, but students are there to learn. It's worse when it's the teachers. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/12 01:16 PM |
| 4 | Is there or isn't there a patriarchy?Lack of women in scientific fields OK, fair enough. because women are viewed largely as sex objects. Ah, you will have to give some evidence that the explanation for lack of women in science is that women "are viewed largely as sex objects". Because no, it isn't obvious. In fact it sounds pretty ridiculously implausible to me. Aside: Isn't it strange? Any person would admit that wealth confers power more than poverty, or physical strength confers power more than weakness. But when it comes to be… | /r/MensRights | 01/02/12 10:10 AM |
| 2 | You know why /r/mensrights is so pro-free speech...Who said that fact had anything to do with oppression olympics? It is a specific issue, a great example of something that is more important to focus on than whether men or women ultimately have it worse in sum. | /r/MensRights | 01/02/12 09:51 AM |
| 1 | Why I Don't Call Myself A Feminist | GendErraticIn the end, these arguments of yours and Demonspawn's rest on an erroneous understanding of biology and anthropology. In particular, you have a totally naïve understanding of what life was like for early humans before the invention of agriculture. But although that is what it rests on, you didn't come to these beliefs by way of science. You came to them by way of (right-wing) politics. So I don't expect that evidence of the bewildering variety of social and gender arrangements human societies ha… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Why I Don't Call Myself A Feminist | GendErraticAgreed. Even when there is are social insitutions in place to socialize men of thinking of themselves as agents, and women to think of themselves as acted upon, that doesn't mean men are always agents and women never. What Typhonblue calls "overt patriarchy" in this link, I'd have no problem with calling terribly misogynist, but even if the majority in a society came to believe it, it's by no means certain men as a group would sit on much actual power. So it's inaccurate to call it an -archy. In… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 02:29 PM |
| 2 | Why I Don't Call Myself A Feminist | GendErraticIf they'd only said "it's gender roles that are the problem!" The problem is when they say men is the problem. The "I'm OK, men need to change" brand of feminism was always the problem, not the women who just wanted more options. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 02:15 PM |
| 1 | Why I Don't Call Myself A Feminist | GendErraticNo, this one. Though if there are more fairy tales, I may have to go over and read them. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 02:05 PM |
| 0 | Why I Don't Call Myself A Feminist | GendErraticSame here. I first came across her writings with the "Save Me" story on AvfM, a dark fable that would put George MacDonald to shame. Thank God she's on "our side", because that's uncommon writing skill. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 01:43 PM |
| 59 | You know why /r/mensrights is so pro-free speech...all of which prove that the (western) world is a much harsher place for men and boys ... than feminists believe, I would add. I'm sure there are ways it sucks to be a woman too, and I for one am not running in the oppression olympics - my intention isn't to compare a list of grievances and finding which is worst. My intention is to draw attention to the ones I've faced, and which I've seen male friends and family face. | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 12:15 PM |
| 1 | Just to reiterate: please do not post links to SRS (or SRSDiscussion)"Jon Jay Ray" at tripod provides the formal definition of "Leftist". Glad we've got that sorted out - at least until you can find an old archived geocities page which sounds more authoritative. You're just suffering from a case of Dunning-Kruger; you know too little about this to see how little you know. Hegel a leftist? No, Hegel was a sycopanth to King Frederick William III of Prussia, an authoritarian, conservative absolute monarch. Radicals have done plenty of shit through the ages, but when… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 08:23 AM |
| 6 | Just to reiterate: please do not post links to SRS (or SRSDiscussion)Why in the world would you want to discourage people from support your cause just because they don't share your political views? Cause he's a right-winger first and MRA a distant second. This, "we were here first, those librul newbies heh heh" talk is BS. Warren Farrell is the godfather of the modern men's right movement, and is and was on the left politically. So is IgnatiusLoyola as I understand. Kloo2yoo who founded this subreddit, and Paul Elam of AvfM have just as much scorn for gender trad… | /r/MensRights | 31/01/12 08:18 AM |
| 4 | While female circumcision is not tolerated by feminists in SRSDiscussion under any circumstances, they have many male genital mutilation apologistsGlad I'm not the only to spot that paradox. To be fair, this disconnect goes far beyond SRS, is even goes far beyond feminism. | /r/MensRights | 30/01/12 03:22 PM |
| -2 | Now even eating meat is sexistTo go from that to diagnosing a particular belief as a product of malnutrition is hackish in the extreme. Most vegans manage to avoid malnutrition anyway. | /r/MensRights | 28/01/12 03:12 PM |
| -5 | Now even eating meat is sexistI hope I have an irony deficiency now, because you don't actually believe you can blame someone's ideas on their diet, right? | /r/MensRights | 28/01/12 12:28 PM |
| 3 | Asking r/Mensrights: So what Exactly am I missing out on?A truly medically necessary circumcision is extremely rare. It is not necessary against phimosis, since a small incision (no removal of tissue) and stretching is safer and just as effective. But that doesn't mean doctors who have been taught to circumcise, and that circumcision is appropriate, won't prefer it. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 02:35 PM |
| 1 | Leo Strauss and Neo-ConservatismThere's a fine line between distrust of the political system and conspiracy theories, and this article walks slightly over it - and the comment section takes the plunge. Yes, Leo Strauss was a bad guy (as was his hero Plato) and yes, he was actually the leading star for a lot of the amoral people who have influenced US policy since Nixon. But he did not deliberately found a conspiracy, and I can't find that he actually said the quote placed in the middle there to look like it came from him. It's… | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 01:27 PM |
| -4 | When women run for office, they win as often as men do: "Our study found no difference between success rates for men and women in general elections".Yes, I have an argument. My argument is that the implication is invalid. Not that the premise isn't true, or that the conclusion isn't true. Maybe you wish it were, so you could shout at me for being a feminist or something. But I do make an argument, just not on the question you want me to make an argument on. I'm just trying to shoot down bad reasoning. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 01:08 PM |
| -3 | When women run for office, they win as often as men do: "Our study found no difference between success rates for men and women in general elections".Gerrymandering, I'd wager. This again shows just how unsurprising this result is, and how irrelevant it is for determining if there's discrimination or not. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 12:34 PM |
| -6 | When women run for office, they win as often as men do: "Our study found no difference between success rates for men and women in general elections".Yeah, because sometimes the point is to not read too much into things. I'd love to say women would do as well as men if they bothered to run, if I knew it was true, but I don't. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 12:33 PM |
| -4 | When women run for office, they win as often as men do: "Our study found no difference between success rates for men and women in general elections".You'd be surprised at how few of my countrymen have even heard of Babe Ruth. And I'm not interested in talking about sports anyway, I'm calling out a logical fallacy (that "women who currently run for office, do as well as men" implies "if more women run for office, those would do as well as men too") and the use of a stupid regional sports celebrity quote to support it. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 12:31 PM |
| 3 | Asking r/Mensrights: So what Exactly am I missing out on?condoms aren't a complete hindrance to feeling. As an uncircumcized male, I've never understood the aversion to condoms - there's more than enough feeling anyway - so there may be something to this. Statistics for condom use comparing circumcised and uncircumcised men would be very interesting to see. | /r/MensRights | 27/01/12 10:56 AM |
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