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Where this shit came from?
/r/AntiFeminists17/08/22 09:59 PM
118

Hope the guy is fine. But I'm happy for him. He dodged a bullet.
/r/AntiFeminists14/08/22 06:42 AM
4

Because they have to. It is hard to live in a plural world where the "other" has feelings and thinks. This isn't a women's problem only. Most of humanity has to assume the "other" doesn't have their own pov. This way, it is easier to think about the world.
/r/MensRights13/08/22 09:59 PM
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I don't know even how to start to talk about this.
/r/AntiFeminists13/08/22 08:19 PM
6

Amazing approach.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 05:52 PM
25

I understand what you say, but our solution will come from men and women. Not from feminists. Because the feminist thinking today isn't capable of coexist with men. To tell you the truth I don't think feminism will be capable of coexisting with men ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 03:34 PM
58

I can't see how feminists could come up with something like #MenToo in good faith.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 03:28 PM
1

Ok
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 02:27 PM
1

Like here, writing on Reddit? Or in calls like discord?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 02:25 PM
2

Where will be the discussions?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/22 02:18 PM
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Identity is the whole basis of their perception of politics. They can't talk about politics outside of their idea of identity.
/r/MensRights11/08/22 12:13 PM
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Before anything: I'm not a mental health professional. I'm a bro from the humanities who spent some time reading and thinking about societies. First Abandon any concepts that make sense only from a feminist perspective. Think about oppression, think about freedom, think about truth, and keep thinking. But never come to terms like "male privilege" to understand yourself if you are not in a political, economic, or any other kind of formal relationship with a woman. Second Study the human condition…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/22 09:34 PM
2

Do you study humanities? Or you know this feminist thinking just by talking with people?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/22 08:57 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/22 08:39 PM
4

Let's change some words. Girls who use you for attention should be avoided. Don't try to punish bad people just for being bad. Not because they don't deserve it, but because punishing someone is a hard thing that demands a very good understanding of the whole situation. And we have to remember that punishing is an action, an active initiative. Instead of punishing her, avoid her. This way, you save yourself time and energy and avoid any eventual problems she could bring to you by being a stupid …
/r/MensRights10/08/22 03:56 PM
5

Why would someone explain something to you about a demographic you don't want to understand? Just get lost.
/r/AntiFeminists10/08/22 01:12 AM
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The psychological violence women do by hating men doesn't need to kill anyone directly to be wrong. There is no hate to the self that doesn't begin with the other hating the self. All the violence we do to ourselves is the continuation of the violence started by someone else. There is no self-inflicted misandry that didn't started with some women hating men.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/22 03:49 PM
3

I have to assume you are probably right. But they will face problems. And this questioning should have been done to the OP instead. Is feminism really facing any problems due to trans women's existence debate?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/22 01:18 AM
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I don't think the "movement is a shadow of its former self because feminists are fighting over the transwomen's existence issue." I think feminism is falling apart because it failed to create a dialogue with men. What is obvious, because feminism will never give up on its misandry. The real question has always been: "How did feminism get the projection over society in the 2 first decades of the 21st century?" One of the topics of the answer is "male support." And this support is crumbling apart.…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/22 10:02 PM
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Well. Even if this isn't exactly a good form of masculinity, it doesn't mean a macho can't be an artist.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/22 04:07 PM
6

I think don't want even reshape it. They just want to take the power over man.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/22 03:24 AM
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This is a very delicate topic. Because even if we assume that feminists have nothing to do with the definition of masculinity, masculinity itself is defined by the behavior of the male part in relation to the female part. You can’t rip apart women from men’s existence. Experiencing masculinity means, somehow, expressing masculinity to women. And we need a new definition of masculinity, not because feminists say we do. But because the world we live in isn’t the same as it was in the 19th century …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/22 03:00 AM
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Thank you for your contribution.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 11:40 PM
3

Yes. But nobody argues that men invented war. And the main point here is to remember that men, even tough male warriors, are capable of doing art. It's funny how feminists are all around to remember that women "cAn Be WaRrIoRs ToO". But none of them remember that, indeed, women have participated in many wars along history.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 09:43 PM
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From what you have written, you think of "constructions" as something imposed on individuals by society. This is half true... But every big lie is founded on a half-truth that is accepted as a whole. We have this idea that constructs are "artificial patterns imposed on people's lives." I don't know if this is your case. But constructs are not something you can just undo. Isn't it like you could wake up and just "build" your whole behavioral pattern from zero without any support from constructs? …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 09:41 PM
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They invented classical music, poetry, and literature as we know it today. The statement may be unprecise, but it isn't a lie. And one of the most important things we have here is that there is no incoherence between masculine gender roles and the production of the arts. So ok, it may be ahistorical. But it is not sexist. Nobody here said that women can't be artists. We are not dismissing art outside of male gender roles. We are remembering that men, even when identified as warriors, may be exce…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 09:12 PM
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This is so true!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 08:53 PM
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To be honest, the artistic man is one of the key factors that will lead men out of this mess. As I understand the situation, there are two things that must be done, and one of them is an artistic movement capable of creating a new model of masculinity. Historically, religion and poetry established all gender roles. But religion is nothing else than glorified poetry. At least it was born this way: as the final form of the message. Religion relies on the message... And the art of "making," of "cre…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 07:30 PM
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Amazing comment. I was saying something alike. The first thing that came into my head was the name "Camões". The Portuguese poet who created the Portuguese language. He was a tough warrior, saw combat many times and lost an eye in combat.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 07:17 PM
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What do you mean with "Sometimes I question if a hyper masculine dude can truly be an artist because I feel like a lot of those softer emotions come with the territory"? I didn't get it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/22 07:08 PM
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First, understand one thing: women who talk this way don't want to understand what we have to say. So even though what you would say would be correct, it doesn't matter yet. Second, if I were willing to respond to this kind of argument, I would tell them two things: 1—Men don't have a sexual identity. Some men opress other men. Not all men choose to live their role in society. You can't just expect a worker to have the same responsibility for his destiny as a capitalist or a king. It isn't like …
/r/MensRights05/08/22 04:01 PM
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Wait. Some time from now we will be the ones saying this to feminists.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 03:19 PM
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She is amazing.
/r/MensRights05/08/22 01:42 PM
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I'm happy of being corrected and I ask sorry for the misunderstanding.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 05:35 AM
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Feminism is going down.
/r/AntiFeminists04/08/22 03:51 AM
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I'm not suggesting "more division." I'm looking for a space for cis men in the division feminists and the LGBT+ have made. If you want "less division," go to some of those wonderful subs full of "comprehensive people," like "TwoXChromosomes" or "WitchesVsPatriarchy" and ask them for "less division." For sure, they would treat you fine. If it was me making your statements there, I would be banned without any talk. PS: And they can join the discussion. Of course, they can. If there are women joini…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 03:09 AM
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There are a movement with proper theory to talk about the issues of trans, bissexuals, gays, and other non-binary men. They have their own space, their own political movement, and they have some support from feminists.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:47 AM
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We will learn about feminism. But until we have formalized a proper critique of feminism made by straight cis men, I won't take any part in common spaces, and I will tell every man to do the same. PS: You can take part in some men's spaces, like this one. There are many women who show up here to talk and give their views about what we talk about here. But men don't have to make any compromises with feminists. I don't see any signals from the MRM that feminists should be understood as allies or e…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:35 AM
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I've spent a lot of time trying to say that the best way to end gender inequalities is to work together. Feminists, and a lot of them, showed up with a well thought out speech based on antropology to tell me that a movement for women should be done by women, and that men shouldn't, in any case, say anything that they weren't allowed to say. And when I tried to express my opinion, I was told to keep my mouth shut or face cancellation. When we tried to show that we had problems too, feminists show…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 02:26 AM
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If someone called you woke, go talk with that person. I'm not shitting on anybody. I'm trying to explain our situation here. Feminists chose to build up this thing of talking about the relations between the sexes in conditions where men can't talk or hear. Now that we understand that, we are looking for a way to talk among ourselves about the problems we face. Let's be polite to each other. We can't build a common space now. And your movement, through a lot of political struggle against right-wi…
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:46 AM
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No we can't. We have tried that in the past 8 years and we couldn't make it work. Now we understand that we need our space to deal with our problems, and we won't give it up easily. And please, avoid this kind of proposal. I know you didn't mean it, but it is hard to not understand it as an insult. Four years ago, if a man proposed this in a public debate, he would be mocked, accused of political apropriation, and cancealed. And I'm sure you'd be one of those who'd do it.
/r/MensRights04/08/22 01:12 AM
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I'm not an expert on S. Korea, but I will try to give a perception of the situation based on what I see around the western debate and LATAM. I think we made a very problematic move: we gave feminists the lead in left-wing politics. I think Marx was right all along: any political movement based on any social group, but not the workers, is a reactionary political movement. The left shouldn’t rely on anything else than the workers and should deal first of all with worker issues. I’m not saying we s…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/22 11:39 PM
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All male issues should be a male safe space.
/r/AntiFeminists03/08/22 10:41 PM
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Bro, let's be honest. That was always the case. Furthermore it isn't like this 80% could do something against you if you take care. Just be careful and find someone responsible.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 12:03 PM
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Now that you put it in these words, I am obliged to agree with you.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/22 04:50 AM
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Look I think it is more complex than this.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/22 04:38 AM
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Like this was something meaningful! They can't decide what is a woman. It's funny how they talk as if they know what they are doing.
/r/AntiFeminists02/08/22 02:07 AM
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If feminists had chosen the critical thinking path, maybe they could have been the solution. But they chose the path of the "equal of herself". So they won't offer any solution to our problems because their main objective is to grant women the best situation available in any given society at the expense of any possibility of a healthy coexistence with men. In other words, they will shift with or support gender roles since it grants them power over men. They aren't willing to be our allies and th…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/22 01:56 AM
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There is. You still can find a lot of interesting women. But now we have to be cautious with who we date.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 12:11 AM
2

Neither. Feminists are prone to be lead by insecure women.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 05:03 PM
6

It won't be necessary. And stop to thinking this way.
/r/MensRights01/08/22 04:30 AM
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I generalize feminists just because it is the normal procedure to deal with any feminist. They not only generalize men, but they also demand that we not judge whether they are "true feminists" or not. They treat us this way and demand to be treated this way. This whole thing began because they started to protect women who attacked men without any fair reason and demand the attackers were treated as a serious women with actual demands about women's issue.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/08/22 04:21 AM
2

Well... better than being cannon fodder for a political movement to support a millionaire in his 30s who shits on his partner's bed.
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 04:06 AM
2

Nice... A quiet feminazi is a good object.
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 04:00 AM
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I don't read anything a feminazi writes that is longer than 3 lines. And isn't like you would nothing more productive than shitting someone's bed.
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 03:56 AM
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Ok, feminazi. Do whatever you want. It's easy to show how immature you are if you just act like some kind of Reddit's Amber Heard, shitting all over the place...
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 03:47 AM
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Get lost.
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 03:44 AM
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First, I will defend myself because I stopped giving a shit about what feminism says. The guys I know who continue to provide feminists with the relevance they seek do not defend themselves, and tell me it is wrong to defend yourself from a feminist. Second, you feminists and wokes need to start to understand and talk about society as a population and not as individuals. I'm talking about the objective conditions for men to talk about themselves. It isn't about you, it isn't about me, and if you…
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 03:41 AM
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I see you don't understand what I'm trying to say. What do I get for stopping putting words in your mouth since I can't assume feminists won't do it with me? I have to take care of myself and I don't have any reason to act like feminists give a shit about me. You see... It isn't about you or me. It is about the bad conditions for two people like us to talk about themselves. People like me can't just assume feminists talk in good faith anymore... And I understand the importance of talking with pe…
/r/AntiFeminists01/08/22 03:06 AM
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You came here. I'm not some kind of woke sub talking about feminism. And grow up. You are on a discussion defending feminism on an anti-feminism sub. What did you expect? Flowers? Kisses? Being treated as a pop singer on a show? And none of your publications have been erased and you haven't been baned. This is far more what any male protester, like me, would get in any feminist sub.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 08:46 PM
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Did you ever see how feminists talk about the identity of feminism and women and how this is put to us? Where I live, men can't say if a woman is or isn't a sane feminist. We can't say if a girl is a feminist or not. We can't talk about the kinds of feminists there are. We can't talk about what kind of feminist an individual feminist is. What is the logical result of these conditions on men? One of them is that men will start generalizing feminists.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 08:37 PM
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Forget the Two X. There is no reason to talk with them.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 08:27 PM
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Is a feminist offering advice about generalizing a group? Is that a joke? You have no right to talk to any man about generalizing groups. Feminists for the last decade have been "degrading" men and "undermining their ability to reach out and understand their perspective". And the whole thing to me isn't about being a jerk to you. My point is that I'm not in a debate with feminism anymore. I don't care anymore about what feminists have to say. I won't wait for feminists to resolve what is a healt…
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 08:14 PM
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Look, I don't have to accept that your movement is open to men or to change. I spent the last 7 years talking with feminists and trying to build bridges. And every time a man's perception got into the talk, the answer was to silence him. I remember a time when I asked a girl what the main opinions were on a specific topic in a closed feminist community on Facebook, with the authentic interest of understanding her perception to adequate myself. I didn't care about the group itself; it was more ab…
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 07:59 PM
3

What you are saying here is reasonable, but I have no sign that feminists would accept that a man act in self-defense. That's the problem. There is no point in walking with a self-defense tool if no one will ever accept that you may act in self-defense. Feminism doesn't care about facts; it wants to give women the best situation possible, bypassing what would be fair and at the expense of men's rights.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 07:17 PM
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I don't think you will find anything that proves otherwise. First, because what we understand as "men's rights" is based on a perception of society started by Warren Farrell's work. What was done under the term "men's rights" before Farrell's work doesn't have to do with what is being done today under the same term. Second, the feminism argument is irrelevant because, as we all know, feminism today is the denial of men's existence. This can be seen in many debates about men. Like "toxic masculin…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/22 07:10 PM
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Yes. It is. One of the major problems we are facing because of feminism is the stupid way these movements use statistics. You can use statistics to understand societies, populations, demographics, and so on. Not to understand individuals. This applies to all people. Black, white, workers, women, men, rich people...
/r/MensRights31/07/22 06:29 PM
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Why don't you go to your feminazi groups and talk about "common fault"? It's funny how this kind of comment shows up in groups made by men trying to understand their situation. This kind of comment would never be accepted in a feminist group. The moment we give ourselves the opportunity to build our understanding of our sex from our perspective, we still have to deal with the ideological bullshit made by lying women to don't awnser by their acts. I bet you feel empowered, right? Bringing the "re…
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 05:27 PM
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Rigth... You talk like if feminists would accept a men acting in self-defense.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 05:18 PM
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It's too much to ask a feminist to not lie.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 05:04 PM
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No "both genders", I think you mean both sexes, are blamed for the problems feminism brought...
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 05:02 PM
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Sure... Have we ever seen a woman go to jail because of a false acusation? Women even face the same jail time as men for molesting a child, and you want to talk about the law as if there wasn't a strong bias in favor of women?! Do us a favor. Get your feminist garbage and get lost. We don't need your bullshit.
/r/AntiFeminists31/07/22 04:14 PM
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So basically we define woke by what own the libs... Is that it? I got it right? You are just using this word because it upsets the wokes?
/r/MensRights31/07/22 03:09 AM
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We have to stop to use this word "woke". IF we going to forbid the use of the language used by the left to deal with the gender issues, we have to be clear about what we are talking about.
/r/MensRights31/07/22 02:03 AM
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First: you may speak of a decrease in general population IQ today. But for sure, you can’t speak of a decrease in general population IQ in the Roman Empire’s fall. Second: The Roman Empire didn’t work the same way modern societies do. You can’t just talk about the performance of societies while looking at the overall quality of the population. It isn’t like one society is doing better than another just because their output has more of this or more of that. Third: the "decrease in general populat…
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 10:06 PM
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They think they are the voice of the oppressed.
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 09:29 PM
2

I wouldn't talk about population IQ... But it seems like a proper approach.
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 09:23 PM
2

Perfect. I wouldn't put it in better terms.
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 09:10 PM
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This is a very specific situation. Today single mothers may be feminazists but this wasn't always the case. The problem isn't the lack of fathers. The problem is the lack of contact with men.
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 08:59 PM
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I don't think their problem is the lack of a father. But your description of the situation in the relationship between men and women is precise.
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 08:45 PM
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I drink with friends I know I can trust. But not with women anymore. I think this is the whole thing: now we have to watch our backs because it's common sense between some women that men worth less than shit.
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 07:57 PM
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Men aren't safe anywhere.
/r/AntiFeminists30/07/22 07:16 PM
2

What kind of life do you want to have? Because things here are cheaper, but the wages are lower and life isn't getting any better. And Latam have a huge problem with public security. Let's take the case of a friend I have... He lives in a major city in Brazil. He is a public employee of the city. He makes something around 201 dollars by month. Can't pay for all the costs he would have if he lived alone. He had to live with his mother. Another friend I have is a police detective in a big city in …
/r/MensRights30/07/22 03:19 AM
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Red Talons, Black Furies and Wendigo... The weeping triumverate... "ThE bIg BaD wHiTe MaLe HuMaN iS uNdEr My BeD..."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/22 01:05 AM
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Werewolf the apocalypse players: :-(
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 10:31 PM
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First of everything, what problem are we talking about? Because "being masculine" is just a thing that may be the cause of an actual problem. What is the problem? The mass shootings? The depresion among people? Low-wage jobs?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 10:23 PM
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I don't think sex should be a big deal. I think sex between two specific people that have true interest in each other is big deal. But I don't know how often this is. Even between beautiful people. The truth is that we don't know the quality of the sex these people have. But this isn't a reason to deny that sex is an important aspect of human life. We can't just look to ourselves and say we can give it away. It's like drinking water, eat meals and have someone to talk. I think we should think ab…
/r/MensRights29/07/22 01:44 PM
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First of everything, this looks like a silly generalization. But ok, I can understand your point. But I never said that sex could be a lot. I said that it isn't little. Isn't like chads would give away sex to a deeper relationship. If they have much, they might think it's a common thing. But it isn't a common thing for Jack, as far as we can see. And we shouldn't think this is little for human being too. Even if it is little from the pov of people who had it a lot.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 12:43 PM
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So? I don't see your point here.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 12:14 PM
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Noted.
/r/MensRights29/07/22 01:16 AM
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I tried to be quick. Don't want to put it some extended text with 10 pages long.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 01:15 AM
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Masculinity, as I understand, is the set of values and practices that men use to communicate their sexuality towards other men and women. In the case of values, we are not talking about the "inner values", or the idea, or the concept, or the perception, or any personal way to understand the values that someone makes about the values for himself, but how these values show up in any given society. Masculinity is a framework for human communication for men to achieve their sexual needs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/22 12:51 AM
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Awesome. If it helps you, it helps me. I'm very happy to see we find a place to express ourselves here and this is one of our first victories.
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 04:05 PM
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I don't like this religious perspective, but yes, we have to stick together.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 03:56 PM
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I'm not against anything feminist. I just not offering support to anything feminist supports without a properly debate. I may agree with feminism in some aspect... Maybe I don't.
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 03:54 PM
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I'm not offering any help to any feminist project except it works to get men's life's better. And I don't see any reason to support abortion in particular, except in risk of the mother's life or rape. I do my part using condoms and do not getting on sex without it.
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 03:34 PM
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Yes, that is a reform. The trick here is that the idea of reform depends on the point of view. You could have a reform of masculinity according men and another completely different reform "according" women. But women shouldn't be talking about this because it is a men's issue. But one thing is for sure. The world today isn't like the 80's. We need to change the perspective from the "traditional masculinity" to something else. The good thing is, we already did it before and if we think about it w…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/22 03:18 PM
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This is a huge and important decision. And talk to him about your situation and your plans to moving forward. He will be capable of giving you an opinion that no one here will be capable of.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:49 PM
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If you say so, it's ok. Did you ever considered going to a therapist?
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:42 PM
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Sorry. I mean, this won't be a serious treatment. It will be some pseudoscience, exactly how the article say it is.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/22 02:38 PM
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Ok, so let's go slower. Start looking for and making some friends. Have people who you can rely on it's an emotional and material condition to you deal with life. Start with the basics: look for other guys with the same interests than you and start talking about it.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:37 PM
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Why?
/r/AntiFeminists28/07/22 02:24 PM
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That sounds great. But start thinking about this as a long run. Be pretty sure about your conditions and the conditions to hold all this together before you engage yourself on this. Do you have any friends you think may help in the case you need it? This will be important too.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 02:23 PM
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Reforming masculinity is inevitable. But it will be done by artistic movements and individual choices made by men in their day to day life. There is no way this thing will become a treatment. It's funny how these people don't really understand what they are doing. It's look like they never read nothing from Foucault.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/22 01:31 PM
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It's funny how things are today. Girls decides what to think about their boyfriend trough YouTube videos that doesn't have nothing to do with them.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:58 PM
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This is something you have to think carefully. Won't your family thinking in send you to college? If that's the case, it could be interesting wait until you finish it. Anyway start to looking places for live and places to work. But talk to other people. Don't you have any male parents? If I was on you place I would look for some male parents to talk to.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:50 PM
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You have to think if it worth live with them. If it don't, get a job and leave as soon as you can.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:10 PM
1

If you find this project... I wish you guys lots of money. =)
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:47 AM
7

LMAO. These people will never show up.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 12:30 AM
1

Bro, If I were a developer, I was already looking for it. But the most close I've got of developing anything was something like 5 problems of Hacker Rank.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 11:46 PM
9

An inferior copycat that they have to take by an original...
/r/MensRights27/07/22 10:48 PM
2

I know. I can't organize it. But it's something we have to start thinking about. Because when someone show up with the site working, we should go for it and use it.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 08:48 PM
5

And we should be anti-abortion? Sorry to ask, I'm not getting the point here.
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/22 08:46 PM
12

We should start our own social network. This situation is unavoidable.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 05:49 PM
10

This is something really hard to talk about in a social network. Is the kind of thing we should talk with people we know personally. Look for a common friend. Maybe someone from her family or from yours.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 04:53 PM
1

Not every article. I don't think the article is a lie as a whole. It works as an ad because it expresses our pov. But if you believe that this was written by a feminist, you are just lying to yourself. Feminists would never think this way, no matter what
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/22 04:10 PM
5

If it will be applied to both sexes, it will be awesome. But we know how things are, right? Better let things be as they are now.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 02:47 PM
13

I think I have read this article, and if I remember correctly, it's an ad.
/r/AntiFeminists27/07/22 02:40 PM
6

Agreed. I think we should see the fight club as a sympton, not as a productive project.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 01:47 AM
1

Well... I think this is the kind of thing that depends on the person. I had sex, and I don't think we can say that is not a "big deal". IF it's being done by two people interested in each other, it's amazing. And I never said that sex isn't a basic human need. I won't stop drinking water or won't assume it is important because it is "just a basic human need.".
/r/MensRights27/07/22 01:18 AM
2

I won't say this is wrong. To tell you the truth, I think it is a good interpretation. However, I don't like to assume that society has any given pov. And I like to understand Marla as a human being as well as Jack. It gives a heart-touching emotion to the movie.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 01:09 AM
2

The chemical burn is a good point. The others are just circumstantial. But I don't see the relevance of the existence of Marla as an alucination. It just doesn't change anything.
/r/MensRights27/07/22 01:01 AM
2

Why do you say this?
/r/MensRights27/07/22 12:43 AM
3

It isn't my take. This is something that I assumed after a lot of talking with a lot of people who watched the movie. It's tricky to understand, but it isn't hard.Look at the end of the movie. When he understands that he is Tyler, he gets the conditions to kill Tyler. What does he do when he kills Tyler? He ends up holding hands with Marla... So he doesn't just understand who Tyler is, he understands better his feelings towards Marla, accepts them and makes them a real thing. At the beginning, J…
/r/MensRights26/07/22 10:32 PM
1

I would have no problem with either model as long as there was a single model for both sexes.
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 09:24 PM
19

Yes, sure. Regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 05:34 PM
90

Dating expert is bullshit.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 05:24 PM
6

Do you think sex is little? The whole movie is based on the psychological need of Jack to have sex with Marla. The whole reason for the relationship between Jack and Tyler is that Jack wants to get close to Marla. Everything else is just consequences of the sexual needs of jack and it's expressions toward Marla. I think what we are seeing is the reduction of the genders to individalities. Gender roles doesn't make sense anymore. Nobody has to offer anyone else anything other than sex and emotion…
/r/MensRights26/07/22 04:58 PM
12

Sorry if I didn't notice your sarcasm. I'm being honest. No irony.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 04:40 PM
69

Never ever accept that a group of people are right about something because they are many.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 04:14 PM
2

I already saw people saying she is a chameleon.
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 02:57 PM
2

Only by coming here to say that maybe both genders are opressed shows how they can't understand the whole situation. Because this kind of question is impossible in a feminist group. Can you imagine someone going to a feminist group to say that maybe they've got a point? It's an obvious double standard. We might be right, but they can't be wrong. And we still have to have these people here throwing this in our faces. It's obvious that these people are not aware of their surroundings. EDIT: And le…
/r/MensRights26/07/22 02:02 PM
3

Best post ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/22 12:02 PM
79

Because they are feminists. Next.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 03:58 AM
1

What?
/r/MensRights26/07/22 02:36 AM
5

Agree with him in what?
/r/MensRights26/07/22 01:22 AM
4

We need our own social network.
/r/AntiFeminists26/07/22 01:14 AM
6

LMAO!
/r/MensRights26/07/22 12:36 AM
1

We need our own social network.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 11:17 PM
-6

Jesus Christ... "...I've been considering that maybe both genders are oppressed in different parts of the world and aspects of life." You are slow as hell.
/r/MensRights25/07/22 10:03 PM
6

I forgot this key factor.
/r/AntiFeminists25/07/22 09:35 PM
2

I'm.
/r/AntiFeminists25/07/22 09:34 PM
8

I think it's a matter of time this kind of sub becomes the main channels for the debate of the next decades.
/r/AntiFeminists25/07/22 09:26 PM
2

I don't think feminism started as a bad thing. But when feminism started to show up on social network, a series of conditions was settle to the hatred of men become a thing. Today in social network, any man are very aware that he may be cancelled if he talk to a feminist in a way she don't like. There are lot of spaces where men can't talk openly about their problems and their view of things. All this kept by feminists. Men can't judge feminists either. We can't just read a feminist, and based o…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/22 04:06 AM
2

Well... I don't know if it would work even in the social conditions of the US. I believe that the majority of parents do not choose to be parents. I think one day the woman discovers she is pregnant and then tells the man. That's it. What you are looking for is a "social male abortion." A way to men revoke their parenthood.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/22 02:24 AM
7

All aggression is instrumental in some way. And I think we can assume that feminists hate men, and the hatred of men is one of their most important objectives and support. There is no reason to assume feminism will just stop with the hatred of men, even if they find other means to achieve their supposed pacific objectives.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/22 02:08 AM
3

Hi!I think the major problems we are facing right now are: -The lack of a male role model that can help men understand themselves and work as a guide to help them orientate themselves. -The lack of a social theory capable of understanding the relations between the sexes without the presumptions feminism makes about men and power. It's these two things we have to look for. The first one should be accomplished by writers, musicians, poets, and other aestethics. The second one will be built by soci…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/22 01:51 AM
1

I think we don't want this kind of thing. You may call women to get their apart on it.
/r/MensRights24/07/22 09:56 PM
1

We need more women plumbers...
/r/MensRights24/07/22 08:10 PM
1

TERFs aren't any more mysandrist than any other feminists. Feminism as whole is mysandrist. At least feminism as it is today.
/r/AntiFeminists24/07/22 03:54 PM
1

When you have the time, look for some of their foruns, and take some time reading what they talk about.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 06:01 PM
2

I agree with you that they are getting lots of hatred. But the way they talk and think about their problems just doesn't work and makes things worse. Did you ever go on an incel forum? It's hating women 80% of the time, and the other 20% is looking for justification for why women should be hated. And all this hate is used for nothing. They just don't have the perspective to change their lives. All this hate all the time never becomes anything productive. And from time to time, some of them just …
/r/MensRights23/07/22 05:44 PM
3

It's a different thing. What we call Incel is the "black pill advocates".
/r/MensRights23/07/22 04:52 PM
2

The problem with Incel is that they became a death cult.
/r/MensRights23/07/22 04:47 PM
21

Keep one thing in mind at all times. Because this is a serious mistake made by feminism, we can't reproduce it, for the sake of our movement and for the sake of all men and women. Human relations happen between real people. Social theories are always a simplification of these relations. Real humans can be very different from one another, and they can always show up as more kind, lovely, creative, intelligent, fair, and virtuous in an overall perception than social theories suggest. So keep in mi…
/r/MensRights22/07/22 12:17 AM
3

This kind of speculation doesn't help in nothing.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 09:14 PM
1

Well... So it's your job to make company to her and guide her to the best comprehension of this issue. So be a good father and keep it up.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 02:33 PM
7

I don't care. I'm a philosophy student at the college. If I wanted to learn about the foundations of some philosophy, I would go to college where I have to study and talk to the teachers. No, not with some random Reddit user. And I'm commenting because you shouldn't be here. You aren't the person who decides if we know what feminism is. We don't have to report to you. Just get lost, Amber.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 03:25 AM
6

"...that feminism means equivalent genders..." I stop of reading here. Stop talking nonsense.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 02:36 AM
3

Because it's the easy way to make you understand how wrong you are.
/r/AntiFeminists21/07/22 02:35 AM
12

No. They don't.
/r/MensRights21/07/22 12:02 AM
8

But are they a condition to child support?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 11:45 PM
1

critical thinking would be nice.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:57 PM
1

This includes almost every human being. So yes, I have to admit you are right.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 08:33 PM
1

Well... Someone open to talk about life.
/r/AntiFeminists20/07/22 08:24 PM
3

As I see it, feminists are just trying to blame men for their emotional problems and are taking their responsibilities for a fair emotional exchange off the table.So we are responsible for our emotional problems, and we should open ourselves to them, but if they don't want to help in any way, they don't have to. That is what they are saying. We are the problem, and they will solve it IF and ONLY IF they want to. There is nothing we can do but open ourselves with the hope they hear us. We are our…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/07/22 07:58 PM
10

Agreed. Edit: I wouldn't mind the test being mandatory in any case. The guy gets the results saying if he is the father or not in any case. If he isn't, he may take the child as his if he wants.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 05:29 PM
1

What do you understand for ideology and for ideologue?
/r/MensRights20/07/22 02:30 PM
181

I think the paternity tests should be free and should be required to get the child support. There is no fraud if the scientific test is needed for the decision that grant the child support.
/r/MensRights20/07/22 01:49 PM
18

Everybody is pro truth, except feminists.
/r/MensRights19/07/22 12:57 PM
8

I bet even she doesn't understand what she is talking about.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 12:10 PM
8

They lost the sense of proportion. But I think the whole humanity did in some way.
/r/AntiFeminists19/07/22 12:33 AM
1

?
/r/MensRights18/07/22 04:10 PM
1

I think one thing that we need to understand about this kind of sub is that something is beginning. Now there is a difference between feminism and women. A distinction that feminism failed to recognize and reject.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 10:18 PM
20

The true is simple: feminists doesn't know how to handle things between women and healthy men.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 08:24 PM
-2

I agree. It takes too much to a woman to understand the joy of being disposable.
/r/AntiFeminists17/07/22 02:02 AM
1

Well, so I can't help.
/r/MensRights17/07/22 01:30 AM
3

Wich 3rd world country? This is important.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:52 PM
11

Amazing post.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 11:45 PM
4

My antivirus said this site has a virus.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 10:23 PM
1

When you compare MRA and feminists, you deny understanding to men. MRA is not an equivalent of feminism and is not on par. If you have difficulty understanding this, there is no dialogue possible. Now, please, leave me be. I have more important things to do than teach the obvious to men that have to present themselves as idiots to justify the lack of understanding they have with men.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 09:04 PM
1

I don't waste time on stupid people. If that's your case, stop talking with me. And I'm tired of people asking for compassion and understanding for women while offering none to men. If you want to be taken seriously, start to offer men the compeension you've already given to women.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 08:44 PM
1

Read my first comment and think about. I'm not talking with someone who deny reality.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:45 PM
2

No. And it's very easy to see the difference.
/r/MensRights16/07/22 07:18 PM
2

This is irrelevant. One of the major issues is that feminism, as a collective movement, has closed the channels for men to discuss their issues in public debate, such as gender and the relationship between men and women. Furthermore, it's their social theory that postulates that social issues have to be thought about and resolved by a subject in his place of speech. So it's their movement that's our main problem right now, and no feminist will make any difference individually, and it's their the…
/r/MensRights16/07/22 06:26 PM
1

Amazing to read someone saying this. I think the same way.
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 12:45 PM
1

What exactly do you think is the problem? The Democrats? The left?
/r/AntiFeminists15/07/22 02:56 AM
2

I agree when you say the problem isn't just feminism. However, this thing exists outside of the internet and politics, and it is the result of an intellectual thought. And one of these political thoughts is feminism as it is today. See, I don't think we can't extract good things from feminist thoughts. But feminists have accepted and helped build this "evil" way of thinking.
/r/AntiFeminists14/07/22 09:56 PM
5

The first issue with this speech is that feminism has closed the doors to public debate. This isn't a "woke mob thing". It has become a political and philosophical presumption that men can't present their views about gender or sexual issues. So ok, fine... We can't behave like a mob, beating the shit out of every feminist we find. But we have to keep the public debate open to everyone presenting their point of view. It applies to liberals and Marxists, democrats and republicans, ordinary folk an…
/r/AntiFeminists14/07/22 09:19 PM
19

You, me and everybody else knows that everything said by a man may be understood as "hate speech". Talk about hate speech nowdays is pointless.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 07:10 PM
28

Noted.
/r/AntiFeminists14/07/22 06:09 PM
2

I'm interested in people. I got in college for the third time. All the 3 times was in people graduations. And there are many men studying in my college, but men outside of humanity don't want to understand what is done in this areas. This is a statistical fact, but it isn't something we can't change. Edit: I'm not American.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:55 PM
7

If you ask me, you dodged a bullet.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:29 PM
4

The problem isn't exactly the feminists. The problem is that the most part of the non-left men are not interested in social data. When this people start to read social theory, this will change. But yes, feminists are using this situation to act in bad faith.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 01:00 PM
6

I'm not even American. I will buy sunglasses just to go to the library.
/r/AntiFeminists14/07/22 12:36 PM
1

But only feminists claims men can't stop women doing this.
/r/AntiFeminists13/07/22 10:21 PM
1

True. Didn't thought this way.
/r/AntiFeminists13/07/22 10:20 PM
3

Wow this was awesome.
/r/AntiFeminists13/07/22 08:22 PM
7

Ok. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 02:17 PM
-8

Oh awesome! An article trying to teach straight men and boys "how not to be toxic" in a relationship... In a Men's rights movement group... ... Get lost Amber.
/r/MensRights13/07/22 01:49 PM
1

This isn't my problem either. I use it always. It's one of the four things I never leave my home without: condoms, keys, wallet, and cellphone. If the guys you date don't use condoms, rethink who you are dating. I don't have anything with this shit and I don't have to do a medical procedure that can sterilize me because you can't choose a sexual partner properly.
/r/AntiFeminists13/07/22 01:30 AM
0

True.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 09:10 PM
3

There is any news commenting the incident? If there isn't any, it is a bad idea bring this here.
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 06:10 PM
3

This is an interesting thing. If we don't creat a way for being cis heterosexual men in the new society, we will fall back into the olds patterns of sexuality. The whole feminist and LGBT revolution now depends on the men's capacity to create him self in the new board of sexual relationship. Because if this solution don't show up, more and more men will goes for the old ways. At some point, if this don't change, the sexual revolution headed by these movements will be unsustainable.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 04:38 PM
1

This is something that depends of the person itself. If you are open to this kind of relationship, go ahead. But if you have to deny your own sexuality, this is oppression. It's the same judgment for women too. If a woman gets so traumatized that she starts to date only women in a way that her sexuality doesn't support, this is oppression. And we have to keep in mind that we are talking about heterosexual cis men problems here. I think the problematic point here is that making this option the de…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:41 PM
3

I didn't agreed with nothing. And I don't have to response to a body control system because women can't just use condoms.
/r/AntiFeminists12/07/22 03:46 AM
4

I feel sorry for you.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:48 PM
4

You are man or woman?
/r/MensRights11/07/22 04:36 PM
7

Apexplaining sounds good.
/r/MensRights11/07/22 03:50 PM
7

Answer "your gender isn't my problem". This is what I'm saying.
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 12:09 PM
2

It's far more easier and cheap use condoms.
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 12:08 PM
2

Birth control with the control of men. Amazing solution.
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 12:07 PM
3

Well... It would be important to understand who did that exactly and by what means.
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 01:35 AM
3

How? Who deleted it?
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 01:06 AM
8

We have to do. For our sake and hers. We need to start to note who is feminist and who isn't. There is no way we will work out without have a very clear perception of who is feminist.
/r/AntiFeminists11/07/22 12:35 AM
2

LoL...
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:32 PM
5

You didn't. But feminists don't care if you are trying to have a respectful talk about sex and gender issues.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:16 PM
2

This won't work. Wake up.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:15 PM
1

It's funny how this topic has become a thing in my head... I was with a girl not long ago... And we were talking before making love... And she said a very interesting thing about feminism: "Feminism is over. We are living in the age of post-feminism. There are no genuine feminist issues left; only the consequences of feminism developing. " It took so much time until I understood. There is no fight for sex equality anymore. I feel so dumb because I didn't understand at the time what she was talki…
/r/MensRights10/07/22 05:28 AM
1

This is an important thing, but this is changing.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:41 AM
15

But this is the whole problem with the death sentence. There isn't a death sentence without this risk.
/r/AntiFeminists10/07/22 04:34 AM
46

I think we should start an archive. This kind of matherial will be important in the future.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 04:01 AM
13

Star wars 7
/r/MensRights10/07/22 03:49 AM
2

Stop talking non-sense.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 01:57 AM
2

Wait on a second. Just ask. Is a major health issue. If you are not fine with the medic for any reason, change it.
/r/MensRights10/07/22 12:34 AM
17

Well, there is a lot of sexism against men in the judicial system, and I can't see any banner talking about it with a propaganda language.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 11:13 PM
2

Thank you.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 09:21 PM
2

Where can we find it?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 08:54 PM
5

Our success depends on our capability to overcome political differences. Plurality of knowledge is crucial for our success, and we can’t rely on a single political movement to demand our pretensions, even more so a movement that claims every state presence is a vicious political domination.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 06:28 PM
1

I could agree. But for now, I'm trying to be more immediate. We need women to understand that men are human beings too and need to be treated with decency too. I'm trying to change a little the way that men and women talk nowadays. If this doesn't change, the rest of it won't change either.But why are you talking about this? Do you mean we should just vote for republicans or something like?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 05:46 AM
1

I don't demand that anyone have to be more or less feminine. But if you say you're fine to treat men well, it makes me happy.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 05:32 AM
1

I'm not saying how people react. I say there is a possibility to talk about it as a natural thing. I'm not pretending I will get smiles if I do it. And you have to understand that different people hit differently. If you want to be sweet and polite, it's your right. Do not apply it over other people. EDIT: By the way, it's very interesting that you are complaining about men talking openly about sex because that's something feminists want us to do.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 05:05 AM
2

First thing: I'm not talking about you and me or anybody in particular. I'm talking about how men have to deal with life. And the main problem we are seeing is that society is changing our way of dealing with things. Like talking to women. Okay, so there are a lot of women who don't get partners, and this is sad. But feminism says that this is a feminist problem and men shouldn't talk about it. When we used to talk about our problems with women, we got silenced... So don't get me wrong. I do car…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 04:48 AM
4

About your first question. The first problem here is that you are separating things that may show up together. I have to say to you that we should keep discussions happening AND do this reactionary thing because it IS a reaction to feminism as it is today. We can’t understand the historical movements around the manosphere without feminism as it is today. I spent the last decade trying to talk with feminists about men’s issues... And I’ve got all the kinds of answers you can think of to avoid giv…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 04:13 AM
2

I mean, "offering a difference." A bargaining man is offering some kind of value to the woman's life or to society. In the first case, it may be of emotional value. Now, can I reformulate what I said?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 03:21 AM
2

Do you mind if I reformulate what I have said?
/r/MensRights09/07/22 02:59 AM
27

This isn't my problem. Lots of men pass most of their time alone. All western world is full of men with social problems to fit in. Isn't like women were looking for guys out of the standards. Isn't like if women were willing to give up this heigh bullshit. So deal with it. You have your standards. We have ours. But at the end of the day, you always find a man. Most part of men don't.
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:34 AM
35

The male experience in many ways means being disposable. The place of men in society is defined by what they can do by dominating or by bargaining. While the man doesn't accomplish any of these things, he is something like a random NPC jerking around. This means the most basic level of recognition by women and other men in society. In a straight way, if you don't fit, you don't get money, female attention, opportunities, or public space. At the most, you receive the basics to keep yourself breat…
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:17 AM
30

You won't understand.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 11:41 PM
51

The joy of being disposable. This is something that most of the women won't understand ever.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 11:02 PM
25

Amazing.
/r/AntiFeminists08/07/22 10:35 PM
4

True.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 08:05 PM
28

That's a fair point. We have to stop thinking in these things like "she is out of my league". The whole problem here is that girl means danger. She is not a red flag. She is a whole red lighthouse.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 06:35 PM
131

If I was you, I would keep avoiding her. You have a child. This is enough reason to not take any risks with suspicious women.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:11 PM
-1

Men and women can be cruel like this, and as I said: they use their sex roles to do it. But if you want to be the feminist-like-person and deny the history, be my guest.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 12:14 PM
9

Yes... If the child is born, pay the damn support. But while he isn't born, the father should have the right to choose not take the parenthood. She can rise the kid alone if she wants.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 01:19 AM
3

We should put someone inside there.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 11:10 PM
-16

There is. Because humanity do this sometimes. Men and women can be cruel like this, and they use their sex roles to do it when they do. Denying human cruelty isn't a proper way to fight it.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 09:48 PM
2

We need a place where we can set the filters.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 09:01 PM
16

OH! So THIS is toxic masculinity.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 07:22 PM
8

Wow...
/r/MensRights07/07/22 07:13 PM
-1

Awesome.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 02:55 PM
4

We should make a private forum.
/r/MensRights07/07/22 12:04 PM
1

Amazing post. Do you have any proposals for models for masculinity? I have spent some time looking for a good one, with some basis in social theories, but didn't find any.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 03:13 AM
1

Amazing.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 02:42 AM
1

So we agree. I would be happy to help create such document. But I don't know exactly how I could help.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 06:58 PM
1

I agree with you that we shouldn't talk to feminists all the time. But they are out there, and at some point they will show up with some of their issues. Ignore may be a good way to avoid problems, and it's what I have done most of the time. But I'm sick of letting them go without any account for their actions, and all this does is grant them more power. I agree that if we start to do it without criteria, it would bring them more attention and grant them more power, because when somebody opposes…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 04:25 PM
1

At some point we will have to answer feminism and some feminists. We can't just hide and hope they stop. Mgtow were doing something like and they got what they got. We have to start to hold positions in public debate. Because this is how public opinion is established. And this could start with our common day relationship... Explaining properly to other people what we think and why we do.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:46 PM
2

They weaponize whatever they can get their hands in...
/r/MensRights04/07/22 11:42 AM
11

I think there are simple things we can do. And one them is start to educate ourselves to respond feminists and feminist bullshit without hate. This would be huge. And is something that could bring results at many levels.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 04:01 AM
49

It's funny. This means her opinion doesn't have any social significance. There is no sociology, psychology, philosophy, or anything else in it. It's just this woke bullshit that thinks the dominant classes are defined by gender and race...
/r/MensRights04/07/22 03:43 AM
1

Where can i find the lyrics?
/r/MensRights04/07/22 03:17 AM
1

It won't be enougth. Believe me.
/r/MensRights04/07/22 02:37 AM
2

I think one way to understand what we are living through today is the complete suspension of any possibility of rescue of healthy alternatives to misunderstanding between the sexes. There is no possibility to "apologise" anymore. I can't say this is something we could blame feminism for, but there isn't any space for misunderstandings anymore. The future of talk between the sexes is cynical. Apologizing won't work with us or with you. It will be, in the best case, understood as immature, irratio…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 01:37 AM
7

I've spent the last 6 years trying to read and talk to feminists to understand their point and trying to build a common conception of a healthy relationship between men and women. While I was trying this, I had to hear that "all men are rapists", "mysogeny is a natural response of women", "men shouldn't talk about gender issues." And, these were the "polite awnsers". So I give up on feminism, and I don't care anymore how women understand their relationship with men, and I don't care anymore if t…
/r/MensRights04/07/22 12:13 AM
6

This is a problem. Your conception of power between the sexes puts feminism up against patriarchy fighting for society. According to your conception, feminism wants the best for society and patriarchy harms both sexes. There is so much wrong with this conception... And we, here, are denying it now. This group exists to, among other things, deny this conception of sexual politics that feminism uses to understand the relationship between the sexes. We are here to oppose the traditional feminist pe…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 10:57 PM
5

Looks like a pattern...
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:43 PM
9

"Increases the likelihood of all family members living as Christians." WTF...
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:30 PM
1

At least be honest. There was no motive to talk about Incel here this way. First, because nobody here was protecting them from what they had become. Second, because this whole thing of talking about how incel is bad has the sole purpose of demonizing men. I don't care what you think about them. I don't care what you think about this sub. And if this sub is so irrelevant, go take care of your life out of here.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:55 AM
0

Look... First I have to say that at any moment in this post, anybody said anything positive without reservations about Incel. What has been said is that they have a problem and should be treated like human beings that are looking for the proper way to talk about their lives. It's obvious they talked bullshit and their attitude was criminal. I have to accept that incel is dangerous. But I'm not accepting their demonization and I will not accept treating their problems as if they were the only gui…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:41 AM
3

This is a personal attack? How mature...
/r/MensRights03/07/22 07:26 AM
5

True. But I think it will happen some often here.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:43 AM
4

What a wonderful moment! I'm happy to read that.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:41 AM
10

Why?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:24 AM
11

If OF's subscribers count fall, it would be wonderful. But this is something we should do just because it's the right thing. But if you ask me, I would tell you not to do it anyway. If we want to be taken seriously, we need to be serious.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 06:19 AM
9

Why? Can you explain?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:37 AM
10

Was this really proposed?
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:29 AM
7

Because we lack a social theory that represents our pretensions to the political debate.The first theories about men's situation, as a gender situation, in human society are showing now. And we are starting to talk about it now. And if you ask me, I have to say that they suck, and we should build a very good theory before we start political engagement.But it doesn't matter if we are going to use them or to build better ones. We need to create an intellectual group of men capable of supporting th…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:23 AM
2

I don't think it will work.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 05:10 AM
8

The difference between non-radical feminism and radical feminism is arbitrary and serves the interests of women to maintain control of the political debate around the relationship between the sexes. What is not lacking on the internet is random feminists popping up to disparage men in general without any critical counterpoint from any non-radical feminist. It may even be true that feminists do not want to reduce the male population to 10%. But misandry is a habit installed in the population arou…
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:54 AM
15

Here's the thing. We past the last 10 years listening that all men are rapists and all women are victims no matter what happens.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:39 AM
6

I used to assume the same. Today I think different. And even though this is true in someway, this is used by toxic women to put men against men.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 04:01 AM
15

Amazing. We must always remember how men's loneliness is threatened as a moral defect. This is one thing I have learned in thise last 10 years of internet: women don't give a fuck about mens loneliness.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 01:46 AM
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I understand your point. But this kind of thing has already happened before, and was worked out by intelectuals in the XX century. So, I'm not saying this is something that I will see to its end. But humanity already dealt with similar issues and did fine.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 01:32 AM
12

I don't think we can make such a judgment as saying that men's rights are against feminism. What we can say, for now, is that Men's Rights is a very broad set of objections to feminism. Some are more radical and reproduce incel-like speeches. But anyway, I don't see Men's Rights working alongside feminism. It is a completely different movement of people who are in a completely different situation that calls for a whole set of new approaches to social issues, theoretically and practically. It is …
/r/MensRights03/07/22 01:05 AM
3

We should stablish a rule: no "incelshaming". I mean, I don't like them either. But this thing to call men incel isn't helping anyone.
/r/MensRights03/07/22 12:18 AM
3

Thanks for sharing this.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 10:07 PM
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The problem is that if we demand they handle both with the same way, we may reinforce this histeria.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 10:06 PM
2

This! This is the thing!
/r/MensRights02/07/22 08:23 PM
1

This was one of the worst bullshit I've ever read on this sub. It's funny how people give themselves the right to say stupid things saying they're going to give an unpopular opinion.
/r/MensRights02/07/22 03:31 AM
3

Looks like it would be awesome.
/r/MensRights01/07/22 02:55 AM
0

This is so simplistic and so non-sense at the same time. Like if there was a mystical time when men Structured consciously the whole society... But they was assuming they were in charge... So there wasn't anybody else doing the laws... But they was still assuming...
/r/MensRights30/06/22 07:10 PM
0

So you are on your 40's?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 06:04 PM
0

It's a interesting perspective...
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:40 PM
1

Wow... Well, don't be mad about it. I don't pretend to offend you or your family. But the sugar daddy thing got the size it have today because it became a "social framework" for women who wants a man to hold their financial life and men who wants pay for a woman. Don't get me wrong. I'm not talking about anyone in special. I'm no talking about you. But I can't see this thing in a different way. But to say the truth, makes me happy to see a sugar baby looking for a better society for men.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 05:12 PM
1

As I told you, this is rampant everywhere. Take a look for this sugar daddy bullshit... I think even some feminists are aware of this problem, in their own way... If there is a possibility for this. But keep in mind this is a male problem. Woman are not accounted for not making money.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:40 PM
1

So I agree with you.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:27 PM
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One thing that we have to do is a new model of masculine art. We already did it and we can do it again.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:19 PM
1

By materialism you mean the seeking of money? This is rampant everywhere.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:13 PM
3

True. But the political capitalization of social problems by these narcissistic was made possible by feminists. Feminism isn't innocent. It's part of narcissistic women project looking for power.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 04:07 PM
3

Was feminism who started this thing of saying that a single sex should be accountable for the world's problems.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:59 PM
1

How old are your son?
/r/MensRights30/06/22 12:08 PM
8

A year ago i would blame the unmarried person. Today I don't care, because what I have seen is that there are woman pushing all the blame to man, doesn't matter if he is married, if he is the cheated person, or if he is just the unmarried person. We live in social network societies. It's very easy to find out if someone have a spouse.
/r/MensRights30/06/22 03:28 AM
6

Excelent point. We should remember carefully of who is doing this seriously.
/r/MensRights29/06/22 09:20 PM
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I agree that men consent was a crucial support but this didn't happened because men wanted a easy way to get sex. It's far more complex and for sure there a lot of willing to understand women, other political interests and other economical interests, and for sure there are more things happening that lead to women's liberation.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 11:00 PM
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With all the respect, I think this way of thinking about how men have played their role in the sexual liberation is a unfair way of thinking. But your opinion still interesting anyway.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 10:12 PM
4

Do we have some list of wich countrys they are refusing?
/r/MensRights28/06/22 03:16 AM
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Wait... It's more socially acceptable for men to expressing emotions in wich side of this universe? Where the hell these people lives...?
/r/MensRights27/06/22 07:34 PM
4

Oh nice... Awesome... What a wonderful day to read.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 06:42 PM
2

Lol... Now feminista want engagement from men in a country where they aren't citizens... Hope latin feminists don't do the same...
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:25 PM
1

Because he have his own space to talk about their issue.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:15 AM
1

Ok.... Why do I need a trans to talk to me about men issues? If I had gone talking about trans issues in a trans sub, I would had to answer the same kind of question.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 04:10 AM
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Yes and no. It's a human behavior and sexes relations issue. But it isn't a problem. We can unterstand it as something that we should think about. But we can't demand rights about this.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 02:49 AM
9

Where did someone here said "fuck women I hate them"? Who does something like this is feminists with men.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 07:55 PM
28

Lol...
/r/MensRights26/06/22 04:02 PM
41

Who said something about putting women down?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 03:59 PM
0

I don't care, I wont read a single word. I don't want to read a trans person perspective about anything here. A mens rights space is a space where cis men talk about their problems in their perspective. Isn't like if you were open to we talk about what we see and feel in our perspective. I don't need your ideas to talk about my experience. Have a nice day or night, whatever.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 12:33 AM
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Why do you came here? Realy... Now that cis men built a space to talk about their problems, they have to hear about trans people problems in cis men's space? Please take your issues with you and look for some woke place where you can talk about it.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:17 PM
13

Women need some rights, like the guarantee that they won't be agressed or raped. This isn't bullshit. It's a real demand. But things shouldn't be treated like feminists claim it does. The main problem when we talk about "women's rights" is that we are talking about a thing that had been understood the last decades by the feminist point of view. If you say "I'm a women's rights supporter", most part of people will think you are a feminist supporter. That is something we have to do: present a diff…
/r/MensRights25/06/22 11:14 PM
12

I'm a MensRight user who support a diferent set of rights for women than feminists.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:58 PM
2

I can't believe how easy she got after all this.
/r/MensRights25/06/22 10:22 PM
1

I don't think it is a bad thing. The bad thing is how It is done. I mean, even in the case of normal guys.
/r/MensRights24/06/22 09:07 PM
2

True
/r/MensRights24/06/22 12:24 PM
5

Believe me, there are a whole way to think and talk between boys about sex that goes by this way of desiring sex as a destiny. It's like the ultimate objective of their life. It isn't just a incel thing. It's far more complex than this.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 10:16 PM
13

The things I have to read in a group of Men Rights.... Well... better than being blind.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 06:46 PM
1

I see. I agree with you. And I have to agree with what you said about MGTOW episode.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 06:26 PM
2

What do you mean?
/r/MensRights23/06/22 05:56 PM
1

Because thinking in human groups like this is misleading and misguiding.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 05:49 PM
3

I think this is the kind of misconception that will lead us trought the same mistake that feminists are making now with us. We can't just sentence a whole thinking and political movement like this as evil as a whole.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 04:18 AM
2

I think we shouldn't think this way.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 02:39 AM
4

This heigh bullshit is one of the most stupid things US women do.
/r/MensRights23/06/22 01:21 AM
6

Ok... Let me try to explain. If you are not fighting misandry, you are not seeking fairness between the sexes. I don't care how feminism thinks about it or what could be a proper characterization of feminism.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 05:40 PM
3

Report her to some mod and get her out of here.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 02:16 PM
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Men isn't even a class, lol. And if misandry is your way to achieve equality, the truth is you don't know what kind of political project you engaged yourself. Because the basis of your political position is emotional.
/r/MensRights21/06/22 02:15 PM
0

I'm. But I didn't thought the post wasn't talking about this issue in this way. The first thing I thought was the post was seriously giving us a advice to be picky. And this is not the way.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:36 PM
-1

If we think like this, ok. But I think we shouldn't think in this as real advices.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:18 PM
1

She is. In fact she is the main motive that makes Tyler get close with Jack.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:17 PM
2

I don't know yet. We are thinking about this, and we haven't settled on a proper way to think about it yet. But men are trying to think about it here and out of here. What I'm trying to say is that being picky isn't an option. And this is something very easy to men understand.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 03:05 AM
3

Have you ever thought that men "take whatever they can get" because they might need whatever they can get? That, maybe, they pass most of their time alone, and since, after some time alone, everyone accepts whatever they can get, men start to accept whatever they can get? I'm not saying that it should be any different. But your way of thinking about it isn't what we need right now.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:57 AM
2

Look, I respect your perception, but you should think about some things. First: men don't think any attention is desirable. The problem is that for men, getting any attention is a hell of a task. If you don't get on your feet, look for it, and work hard for it, you won't get any attention. Attention is a scarce resource for men. At least for ordinary men. Second: Men choose in their interests, but in real life, women want to be chosen by the men they want. It isn't like women were open to a rela…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:41 AM
0

Where did you saw I was looking for a relationship? Ok... so if 'the sub has "rights" in the title' there can't be any different perspective about it in the sub... This talk ends here.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 02:38 AM
1

We have to stop thinking about men's and women's issues as if they always have to do with right. Being with someone is an important thing, and it's something that we have to look for even if there isn't any right about it. We can't get all we need with just rights.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 01:45 AM
1

If we were talking about the emotional of a overweight girl, would you talk like this?
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:58 AM
13

This can be discussed in a lot of ways. But let's try a practical way. If men become picky like women, the relationships we seek won't happen. Women can be picky because men are offering partnership. But there are other perspectives and issues, like what u/Jakeybaby125 said.
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:47 AM
3

There are a whole set of problems with saying that feminism is still needed. The main problem is that feminists closed the way to thinking about feminism as a universal movement. Decades ago, it was about fair and healthy alternatives to the patriarchal society and women's rights. Today it's about giving unfair power to women and attacking men for nothing. So we still need a movement that fights for a fair society for the sexes and genders, a movement that implements a universal society. But the…
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:38 AM
9

Thank you but I don't think this kind of mindset aplies to men.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 11:33 PM
-1

I don't see a point in this kind of post and I think we will do better without it. To say the truth it only shows that women are not listening what we have to say.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 11:23 PM
3

Amazing.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 05:04 AM
9

Look... If the things got that bad, the best thing for him and for her is he moving on with his life. Tell him to stop to paying on the house and move with his life.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 02:16 AM
8

I agree.
/r/MensRights18/06/22 02:12 AM
38

Step 1: stop paying on the house. [2]
/r/MensRights18/06/22 01:11 AM
2

This is the kind of argument that even need an anwser...
/r/MensRights17/06/22 12:34 AM
1

No... God don't forbid it... Since it validate women's perspective. Like "woman are the victims".
/r/MensRights16/06/22 04:01 AM
12

Quarrelsome people of any sex should be avoided in any case.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 07:28 PM
89

Amazing.
/r/MensRights15/06/22 03:55 PM
5

First we have to organize a rational perception of our situation, like feminism did. Until there, we can't get too far.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 05:21 PM
2

This might have all kinds of answers. There isn't a single motive that creates this kind of situation.
/r/MensRights13/06/22 04:37 PM
3

Patriarchy: If patriarchy exists, it isn’t as hierarchical as you described. There isn't an organization with such a structure. There isn't a space where men have defined relationship bonds with any objective like "maintaining patriarchal order." When we talk about capitalism, for example, we are referring to a group of organizations that have a hierarchy of structures defined by private and public documents and supported by judicial powers in order to pursue profit. When we talk about the state…
/r/MensRights12/06/22 11:14 PM
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Bro, I know very well what I did. And that's exactly my main point: recognition won't be equal ever. It's pointless fight for equal recognition. At least in the "small gestures". We have to keep in mind what we can pass with and what we can pass without. And I'm not talking about size, It isn't about local or national issues. It's about the relevance of the issue for a reasonable life. Profissional recognition, educational oportunities, mental health support, equal justice decisions on family is…
/r/MensRights12/06/22 07:29 AM
-30

We can't fight for every little gesture. We have to keep focus on the relevant things. If you start a fight because you didn't got some flowers on the stage, you won't get the real important things. Men don't get recognition, gifts and help for free. So you have to think about what kind of these you will choose. Flowers won't help us get any further in anything.
/r/MensRights12/06/22 06:22 AM
16

"promote a toxic mistrust of woman". LoL
/r/MensRights12/06/22 01:23 AM
-57

Let them have their flowers. This isn't the kind of recognition we need.
/r/MensRights11/06/22 11:09 PM
1

We live in a world ruled by Karen's. Screaming is the rule. But not everyone is a Karen.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 11:50 PM
6

I don't think this is true. There are out there, women and men that think we have feelings. Don't let these Karens define how you think about women. This is a crucial point: we don't live in a world of Karens
/r/MensRights10/06/22 09:54 PM
56

This is the kind of thing we have to talk about. We, unlike woman, can't wait for any support.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 06:34 PM
8

I think you are optimistic. But made me happy read what you think.
/r/MensRights10/06/22 03:53 AM
5

Dye whatever you want.
/r/MensRights09/06/22 02:45 PM
5

I'm likely to agree. But we live in a world where men can't make that declaration to public. If a men point out that are differences between misandrists and women, he is denounced with all the feminist bullshit you can think about. The problem isn't prove this to real woman. The problem is settle the conditions to let men make this kind of declaration.
/r/MensRights08/06/22 07:40 PM
1

Look, i'm just saying that we need more than what was told here to sentence that was bias agains boys on the situation. One thing i've been saying to everybody that I talk about men's issues is that we can't deal with our issues like the feminism has done in the late 10 years. We can't just show up and start complaining about bias without a clear perception of the situation like feminists had done in the last yaers. We need to select wich pretetion we have we will accept as fair. Not all men hav…
/r/MensRights05/06/22 11:43 PM
1

You have 12 years old... Let's start for the begining. For the next decades we will need 2 things: - Thinkers capable of think men's place on society. - Politicals capable of put men's demands to the public. The way you build these two things goes by a single path: study. What you can do is: study. First study the things you have in school. We will need you with a good shape of mind when you become an adult. If you have free time, even after take care of your school works and other home dutys, t…
/r/MensRights04/06/22 11:02 PM
1

I think this doesn't have nothing to do with bias against boys. It looks like more that the class had a specific activitie: make a head with clay, and not just the skull. The boy didn't the head, the girl did. So the teacher react posectively to the girl, and not to the boy.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 07:39 PM
1

I agree that this "one sided" way to deal with social issues are wrong. We know it since Hegel, at least. Society is a plural construction of many ways of deal with life. It's multifaceted. But feminism doens't put things in this terms. Since the forth wave, Feminism done by woman and for woman. We need, of course, a public way to understand the sexes relations. A perspective that deal with men and woman as parts of whole. But feminism isn't offering this. And to deal with the situation of the m…
/r/MensRights04/06/22 07:30 PM
1

There is a big difference between change behavior and attitude and what amber did. What she did demand exactly the opposite of a drastic change of attitude and behavior. She stood for what she was doing to him with the trial for years.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 12:09 PM
0

Yes... But let's agree that she goes far beyond of behave like someone with borderline.
/r/MensRights03/06/22 03:54 AM
6

Because men don't select partners. They offer the partnership. The role of the men is to be available to a realationship.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 05:27 PM
3

They can coexist. But we can't use feminism to support men issues because feminism have a loyalty bond with women, healthy or toxic ones.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 05:18 PM
6

I think we have to stop to think in a movement for men like what is thought for women.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 05:04 PM
6

Amber's problem doesn't have nothing to do with mental health problems. She is the problem.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 04:44 PM
0

The whole problem is that we lack a egalitarian theory of the sex. The whole comprehension of the sexes relationship is based on the feminism.
/r/MensRights02/06/22 01:08 PM
1

You're right about mistreatment regardless orientation. But sex and gender play roles in what we are in who we are. We can't just pretend things are about person itself and it's value if we avoid the fact that the real person have gender and sex. We have to remember too that cis-men have a particular sex and a particular orientation. So, it's about sex and gender in some way too. We can't avoid that. What he was saying wasn't very nice, but i don't see any need to claim to fix something. People …
/r/MensRights02/06/22 02:15 AM
2

What risk are you talking about?
/r/MensRights07/05/22 12:01 AM
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Well if the mother have the right to abort... it's her choice to provide financially the child. The whole thing here is the value that suport the child birth. We don't live in the religious cristian world where human reproduction is a religious duty. So if the woman have the right to chose if she will give birth or not to a child, so does the man have the right to chose if he will take part on the child's life. I think it's fair... If human reproduction will be valuated by the perspective of a p…
/r/MensRights06/05/22 07:37 PM
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Men should have the right of a social abortion: a statement, made before the birth, that he refuses all the obligations and rights of that unborn child.
/r/MensRights06/05/22 04:14 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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