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DebateFoxy_Traine/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:08 PM
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I genuinely don't know why you bother to entertain and understand these opinions. You're feeding into it even if you don't mean to.
/r/MensRights20/03/26 09:30 AM
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Why are you "just curious" about the logistics of taking away women's bodily autonomy? Why do you want to think more about women being raped?
/r/MensRights20/03/26 07:05 AM
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Like T Swift! Her music is great and not victimy at all. Glad you agree
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:24 PM
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Sounds like you've spent a lot more time thinking about Taylor Swift than someone who isn't a fan 😬 You can admit you like her, it's OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:15 PM
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That's not true. And the only way you would know if it were true is by listening to all of her music, which would make you... a Taylor Swift fan. You sound like someone who heard about Taylor Swift and what other people think about her and just took their word for it instead of actually thinking critically and forming your own opinion on a topic. But it's easy to make fun of her I guess so go off 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:01 PM
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Which has nothing to do with taste in music
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 03:56 PM
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And yet none of that has anything to do with my points about why your argument is flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:32 PM
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OK so... women who actively work to support men's rights are faking it, and also should be doing more..? Make it make sense. Your entire idea is based on the premise that women gaining rights somehow negatively impact the rights of men. It also assumes that everyone who wants to work on a cause to better the world has to be working equally as hard to fix all the world's problems at the same time. Neither of these ideas are true.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:26 PM
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... I feel like you don't know what a victim complex is
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 11:20 AM
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Oh, no bb... it's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:46 AM
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Very well said
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 02:25 PM
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Saying that something is normal is not the same thing as saying that someone who did something in the past could be normal. And besides, what does normal even mean? Just acceptable averages I think, and doing some kind of sex work doesn't exclude people from living an otherwise "normal" life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:29 AM
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You lack critical thinking skills and I feel sorry for you. It would be a waste of my time to explain anything to you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:28 AM
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You make no sense and sound unhinged. I hope you get some help.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 08:46 PM
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Um... yeah they can be? People do all kinds of things in life that don't define them or not make them bad/abnormal people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:22 PM
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Lol sure buddy https://archive.ph/pkco4
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:47 PM
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I think you should. Lots of people do sex work and it doesn't make them abnormal
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 04:36 PM
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Women who did this could be normal, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 03:24 PM
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Why in the world does that matter? Is this some sort of "gotcha" bad faith tactic to get me to look bad? If he's tall, I'm just with him for his height? If he's short, what, I'm just lying to you? It might be a surprise to you, but I love my partner regardless of how tall he is. I've dated shorter, I've dated taller, and never was height a reason why I broke up with someone or kept dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:58 AM
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As a woman in an honest relationship, you're incorrect about that. But again, if this mindset makes you feel better about yourself by shifting the blame into others, I can see why you might enjoy it. It makes any kind of growth or effort on your part unneeded since obviously none of your loneliness is your fault.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:48 AM
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Not true at all. But if you want to be a victim and justify why you're alone in a way that removes your culpability, I guess it's a nice thing to believe. I can see why that would make you feel better about your situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:42 AM
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Men do this to women so much it's sad. Women don't belong on a pedestal either. We're just people who want to be loved.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:37 AM
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https://archive.ph/pkco4
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:00 PM
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God, the mansplaining is strong with you... But I would like to add a few additional things to consider. 1) A hoe may not be damaged at all. Thinking that the number of sex partners equals damage is a really toxic idea. 2) A woman wants a partner she can be honest with more than she wants a man to like her. Even a high value man. Not every woman is seeking male approval at any costs. The outcome would then be that a woman would be honest about her experiences, and not care if the man had an issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:06 PM
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You're right. I don't understand why you wouldn't want to ask someone a direct question instead of making assumptions about someone you don't know that well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:17 PM
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I'm not trying to have a relationship with you, bro 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:15 PM
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I think it's normal and healthy to be able to talk about things like this early in a relationship. This way you know if you're dating a judgemental ass and can end things quickly before you get too serious. It's like asking about kids and marriage. It's important to weed out the people who aren't aligned with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:36 PM
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Why would you want a relationship with someone if you're unable to have an open and honest conversation about something like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 03:23 PM
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I can't teach you critical thinking, bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 02:10 PM
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Typical man explaining to a woman how her lived experience is obviously is wrong because he knows better 🙄 But go off. I'm sure your mindset is helping you have happy, loving relationships with women that fulfil you. 😒
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 01:24 PM
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The counter argument is: I'm a woman and I don't think like this. Most women I know don't think like this. Your idea of what women are and how they behave is based off inaccurate information because it does not match the real lives experiences of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 06:42 AM
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Yikes you don't know how women work at all. My partner had literally none of your requirements and I still went out with him and now we're happily married. Not everyone looks for the same thing when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:48 PM
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Yes. I found my husband on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 07:46 PM
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You are wrong. A lot of people get married without all that extra stuff. And when they do, it's their business and choice about what they choose to spend their money on. Just like it's their choice to get married in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:23 AM
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I've literally never asked a man for an explicit or exhaustive list of what they are looking for in a spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 06:21 AM
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Gross
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:46 PM
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Well this is part of debate: calling out wrong assumptions of people who post things that make no sense. Your entire argument and line of thinking is fundamentally flawed.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:19 PM
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That's just a whole lotta sexist garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 08:18 PM
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Compromise is great and healthy for both people. Submission? Not really. I don't think it's nice. I don't think it's healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:04 PM
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Taxes, medical decisions, financial decisions, asset allocation, funeral/death decisions, visas, because you want to, are all great reasons to get married that don't involve children.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 06:00 PM
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Oh buddy, you have some really messed up ideas here. I'll just give a few points: 1) Not settling for a typical relationship does not mean they are only dating men with a 6 pack/6 figure salary... Most women care far more about other things than this, and want more from their partner than superficial stuff like this. 2) Men who are child free and the men who women who are child free want to date are not what you would describe as "high demand" men. 3) there are many reasons to be child free othe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:59 PM
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So you expect women to list every single thing they are looking for, and then explain exactly what didn't hit the mark when they don't like a person..? Sure buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:12 PM
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OK, so you agree that women can want a nice guy with a backbone. Cool, hopefully that clears things up for all the other people who don't know what "nice" really means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:15 PM
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Still didn't answer the question or say what you meant by "nice."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 03:00 PM
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Yes! That and assuming every woman wants the exact same thing in a partner. It's just stupid!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:59 PM
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You say this like they are contradictory, but they aren't. Being truly kind includes having healthy boundaries. You can have a strong will and still be nice about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:58 PM
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You can have a backbone and be nice. At the same time, not having a backbone does not equal being nice. They are two very different things and men for some reason get them confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:56 PM
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I've found that women love nice men! I'm married to one and his kindness is one reason why we're together. What women generally don't like is insincere niceness, being fake, not having any opinions of your own, or using overly "nice" tactics as forms of manipulation. Being nice is wonderful, but most men confuse being nice with being a doormat with no sense of self.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:54 PM
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Men use women as a crutch instead of dealing with issues in their own lives. They don't need them, they just don't have the skills to deal with things without them (which is a choice).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 08:22 PM
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The only thing that is possible to obtain in your list is the first one. Everything else is a fantasy and delusion on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:58 PM
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Someone is delulu if they think mgtow was banned because of discrimination towards men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:57 PM
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I think that is fundamentally untrue. Instead, they just don't know how to have a happy life without women. That's a problem they can solve with some personal growth. Men can be happy without women if they choose to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:56 PM
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That's like... exactly the point? Leave if the person isn't doing what you want them to because they have a right to say no to it. I just do not understand at all why someone would use their past experiences to determine if what their partner is doing is enough for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:16 PM
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... yes, because patriarchy? A lot of boys are taught that it's a good thing to be the sole breadwinner and to have a woman fully dependent on you for everything. It's not, it's controlling and manipulative and can lead to financial abuse, but that's what some men/women are taught in "traditional" families.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:30 AM
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Being financially dependent on someone is NOT the same thing as being more financially stable than her. That just means they don't want to be the sole breadwinner or have to take care of a bum. That's normal and understandable. Doesn't mean they have to out earn them. And besides, it's a preference. Everyone when given the choice would want more money than less money, doesn't mean that's a deal breaker for women. The ability to morph stats into what you want to see is crazy in the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 11:06 PM
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Gross. I hope you only have sex with prostitutes then.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:18 PM
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Buddy, if my needs are being met, I WOULD LEAVE! And you should too if you're in that situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:17 PM
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Here's the point: I don't give a flying f how my partner treated others before me. I care about how they treat me, that's it. If your needs aren't met, then leave. Their past has nothing to do with it! But honestly, it isn't worth while even talking to you about it since you just see sex as a transaction to serve you. It's sad that's all it is for you, but I'm not sleeping with you so whatever. I just feel bad for the women who are around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:43 PM
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I would not. I would assume that for whatever reason he isn't comfortable doing that now and that's 100% fine. He has the right to change his mind and only do what he's comfortable with sexually. Wouldn't you want your partner to feel comfortable and safe enough with you to say "no I don't feel like doing that right now" instead of just doing something she doesn't want or enjoy out of guilt or fear? If she's not fulfilling your basic needs, leave. What she did with other people has nothing to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:20 PM
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Why on earth does their history have anything to do with it? Either they treat you the way you want to be treated in a relationship, or they don't. That's what matters, not whatever they did before with different people and in different circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:24 PM
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She may not be having sex she doesn't want or enjoy anymore. That's not a bad thing at all! Everyone should have the right to have as much or as little sex as they want! If you're with someone who doesn't want to have sex often with you and that's a problem, find a different person to date. Don't try and convince someone who doesn't want sex to have sex with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:09 PM
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None of this is true about what women look for in a partner. Lots of women will date shorter men, lots will date men who make less money than them... but I can see why men think this is how they "have" to be. But they don't. Just live your life without feeling like you have to meet these unrealistic expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 04:09 PM
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Incredible
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:05 PM
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God damn that's depressing. You're a perfect example of why men have trouble being vulnerable in front of others and are in complete denial about how harmful that is. Not just for you, but for all the people around you. It's tragic and so fascinating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 08:34 PM
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Well that was some deranged mental gymnastics to read. Here's some info regarding the benefits of crying. https://www.healthline.com/health/benefits-of-crying https://positivepsychology.com/express-emotions/ https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/radical-emotional-acceptance/202301/how-men-can-embrace-their-emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 07:18 PM
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I think it could be a few things. First, your comments come off a bit self-pitying. Another is it's frustrating reading about how women are preventing men from being vulnerable when a lot of women encourage it in the men around them. Often it seems other men are more of an issue, and we wish more men would be vulnerable and that other men would encourage it in each other. When men complain about women not letting them be open, we wish they would be open and supportive of each other instead of bl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:39 PM
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Rejection never feels good, but is a part of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:29 PM
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I've never found that. Healthy displays of vulnerability bring people closer together and is often encouraged by women. I know men in relationships who are vulnerable and still have happy, healthy relationships with women. Everyone needs to ask for help sometimes, there's nothing weak about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:59 PM
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That's really sad that you feel that way. I love and encourage the men around me to be vulnerable and they are happier for it. Consider trying to find better people to be vulnerable with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:58 PM
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Do you think people are downvoting you to try and hurt you...?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:57 PM
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Only if you're in a relationship with a bad person. The men in my life are able to be vulnerable and still have happy relationships with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:46 PM
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I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you can find people you can trust with your vulnerability. Not everyone wants to use that kind of stuff to hurt you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:45 PM
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It's really sad to expect men to never be stressed, depressed, and never had breakdowns. That is way too much pressure to put on anyone! Every person has emotional needs and will feel stressed at some point just because of how life is. I think your age is really telling here. No man can live up to your stated expectations. If you think they are, they are either lying or just haven't had to deal with challenges yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 10:29 AM
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I got married so my spouse could have a visa to live with me in another country. Without that, we wouldn't have been able to stay together, and we wanted to be together because we love each other. Another good reason to get married is medical decisions will be made by your spouse, not your family member. It's nice to know that if you were suddenly unable to speak, your spouse would have the right to make medical decisions for you instead of family members you may not trust or who don't have your…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 09:46 AM
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That's sad you feel that way
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:06 PM
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I've found that women prefer to have sex with emotionally intelligent men who treat them with respect. This is one reason why so many incels exist, since they aren't able to do that :/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:30 PM
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Not really. It's not a flex to sleep around. The average person could have more sex, but can be more selective with their partners so they only have sex with people they really want to have sex with, not just anyone who is willing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 05:29 PM
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I've actually found a lot of people who have a ton of responsibility/power in every day life actually enjoy being subs. It's like they can find a release and actually let go of the control for once, which is very liberating. Funny how that works!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:31 PM
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Right. Why do you think it's emasculating?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:29 PM
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I disagree. I know many discreet cucks, you just wouldn't know about them because, well, they don't tell people about it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:28 PM
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That's fine for you, but that doesn't mean you should shame others for it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:26 PM
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Indoctrinated how? By whom/what?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:24 PM
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It's not awful, it's just a fun thing people do that doesn't hurt anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:23 PM
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I think one of the biggest holes in your thinking is considering marriage/family a "deal." It takes all the love and bonding out of it. Step parents can absolutely love and adore their stepchildren as much as if they were biologically theirs. Just like adoptive parents. Love is important, and family (no matter how it's formed) is beautiful. Women don't "lose value" because they have children. Women and children are not objects for you to buy and trade. We all are inherently valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:21 PM
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How sad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:18 PM
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How sad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:18 PM
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Yeah, I can see that. It's sad honestly that so many men are so insecure that they have to tear down others like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:17 PM
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I appreciate this comment
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:16 PM
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Why do you think this?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:16 PM
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Ahahahahahaha thinking 60 lays is something to brag about and makes you an expert is absolutely hilarious 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:14 PM
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Don't we all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:09 PM
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Yeah that's a fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:09 PM
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My point is its not emasculating
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:06 PM
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Westoids...?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:34 PM
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Yeah, women can be part of the problem too for sure. Women can be just as misogynistic as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:34 PM
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True that!! I don't have the study on hand, but I remember reading something about how BDSM/kink participants had lower rates of mental illness than "normal" people without kinks. Funny how that works haha
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:33 PM
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That's a fair point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:31 PM
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I don't think you understand what cuckolding is. Here's some more information about it. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/understanding-the-erotic-code/201910/the-complex-psychology-of-cuckolding
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:31 PM
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I don't get your point then
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:30 PM
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I love submissive men and have had many different relationships with them, both romantic and platonic. Maybe you don't see it because you don't look for it? Maybe you should work on creating safer places where men have the opportunity to be vulnerable and submissive without being harmed or taken advantage of. If you were a part of those spaces and helped your make friends, maybe you would have a different perspective on the whole situation. I fully agree that men should stop harming other men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:28 PM
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That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:20 PM
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Why don't you like women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:18 PM
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You have a really low opinion of women and submissive men. It's quite sad. Why can't women and men both be as dominant/submissive as they like without you judging them for it? I know many women who love submissive men, just wish that toxic masculinity was less of an issue, so more men felt comfortable expressing their submissive urges.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:18 PM
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So you're using the word wrong. Being a cuck is not the same as what you describe in point 2, it's just enjoying watching your partner with another person. I love cucks and they deserve respect just like you and me. I don't think you're in a position to evaluate who has "value" or how much value they have as a human.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:15 PM
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Wow, now that is a hot take! I'm an abuser because... I think cucks deserve respect and should not be insulted all the time? Here's an article that describes cucking a bit more so you can see where I'm coming from. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/understanding-the-erotic-code/201910/the-complex-psychology-of-cuckolding
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:11 PM
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I'm pretty sure women can be cucks too, if that's what their into. I also don't see it as emasculating. I don't see how it threatens a man's masculinity, especially if they are secure in it without other people's opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:09 PM
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I don't get it. I adore submissive men! I wish more people would love and accept them. They are wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 02:06 PM
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Yeah that's a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:57 PM
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That's a really sad way to view a relationship between two adults
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:55 PM
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It's so sad, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:54 PM
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Infidelity is not the same as cuckolding
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:53 PM
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So it's being used as a short hand for cheating. Again, they are using the word incorrectly because cucking is not the same as cheating. Also, who thinks of sex as so transactional? Isn't that a sign of not viewing sex as a mutually pleasurable experience between two (or more) consenting adults? Who wants to have sex with someone who doesn't enjoy it or want it with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:48 PM
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That makes sense why people use it as an insult, but again they are using the term wrong. Cucking is a consensual act by all parties, not cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:46 PM
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Yeah that makes sense. Essentially there is nothing wrong with it, but it's not for you so you don't want to associate with it. That's fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:45 PM
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I don't agree that women have to have emotional connections for sex, or experience sex differently than men, so the other point doesn't make sense to me either.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:44 PM
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It sounds like by this argument you could say "mental illness" is the cause of any behaviour you don't agree with. That's not really a valid way to explain behaviour unless you're a mental health expert, or you understand the pathology of a mental illness. I don't think it's built out of disrespect. The cucks I've spoken to view it as an exciting act of love. No one feels disrespected, the goal isn't to disrespect anyone. It's about experiencing pleasure. I think it's only disrespectful if a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:43 PM
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Let's say your observations are true. What's wrong with that? People can't really control their class for a lot of reasons, and same with testosterone production. Nothing is wrong with either of these things or the people who cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:35 PM
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I think they are very different things, so I don't think so. The cucks I have known do not want to be cheated on. It's not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:33 PM
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I think you're making a big deal out of children, but they don't have to exist with cucking. Lots of people cuck without making kids, so it's not the point at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:32 PM
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As a female with sexuality, I do not understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:31 PM
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So you're using the word incorrectly. Cucking and cheating is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:30 PM
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What mental illness would be the cause? I genuinely do not understand why you think this is pathetic?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:29 PM
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That's funny because I've found more middle class or upper class who enjoy it. But I think this is exactly the issue with anecdotal evidence. Not all cucks are low class.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:26 PM
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OK, so you have connotations with the word that are negative. I don't, and I know a lot of other people who also don't have the same connotations. I view it as a valid kink that is fun for the people who enjoy it. I don't know why it's been co-oped to mean someone weak/pathetic. It does sound like people are using the word wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:25 PM
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OK, so sex doesn't have to lead to children, so that isn't really a good point. I guess I can see saying cuck as a short hand for cheating, but then you can see that people are using the word wrong. If you mean "don't be cheated on" then you can say that without using cuck, since chatting and cucking is not the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:23 PM
0

Sex doesn't have to lead to children, so I don't understand your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:21 PM
2

Why is it morally wrong? How is it tied to mental illness?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:20 PM
2

How would you know this? Hypothetically, even if she didn't see you the same after, what's the problem with that? If your relationship is so fragile that one experience with another person would change her view of you, then it probably wasn't a great relationship to start with. She has a right to change her mind about you at any time, with or without another person in the mix.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:19 PM
-4

That's fine if it's not for you. I would be curious about your sample size of people who are cucks. It sounds like you're making a lot if assumptions about people with the kink, and those assumptions are probably wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 01:17 PM
3

I think men are unable to get their emotional needs met with relationships that aren't sexual/romantic in nature. Male friendships aren't emotionally supportive the way female friendships are, so men seek women out more because they need more emotional support and can't find it another way. If men were able to build and maintain other healthy relationships, I don't think this obsession would be as prominent. Plus, putting all your emotional needs into your romantic partner is really unfair to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 10:36 AM
27

That's a really pathetic way to view the world. I feel sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:18 PM
-2

Devil's advocate arguments, usually, should have better substance to them. Otherwise, they are just an excuse to say your own shitty opinions and watch people get frustrated by them. It's what trolls do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:16 PM
-3

Your entire argument is full of holes. First of all, drugs aren't even close to similar to cheating, so none of that has anything to do with it. Second, blaming cheating as a reason for lower birth rates and general unhappiness is... grossly over simplifying the problems. And it assumes that cheating has increased over time, causing the issues, but I don't think it has. People have always cheated, so you can't blame that for modern social problems
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 11:37 AM
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That is for sure the stupidest thing I've read today.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:37 PM
2

In this case, you are the problem buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 02:51 PM
5

Not believing someone has the capacity to have empathy towards you says far more about you than it does about anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:38 AM
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You know, I think you're right. But it's also extremely context dependent. Wallet doesn't matter as much if the person is working on goals, for example. Height doesn't matter much as long as chemistry is there. D size doesn't matter as long as the sex is still excellent, which is determined by far more than size. Context changes all of these, and will change what I would be willing to tolerate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 02:36 PM
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So... if you aren't useful, you feel like you might as well be dead? Or do you mean that if people don't see you as manly enough, you will be isolated socially and that makes you feel like u you should be dead?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:15 AM
6

What..? What on earth is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:17 PM
0

Yeah, but it's a bit of a false equivalency, right? You can care about two things at once whole also acknowledging that one is objectivity worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:16 PM
15

As a scientist, thank you for the rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:15 PM
0

Honestly, there's no point in responding. You aren't going to take my answer in good faith or try to understand. All your want is to either call me a hypocritic or a racist/misandrist. Responding to you wastes my time and energy. But consider: is your mindset serving you and making your life better? Are you happier thinking things are unfair for men or that women are bad? Are your relationships stronger or healthier because of your attitude or not? Just think about it. I don't need you to reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:30 AM
0

Sure buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 08:16 AM
1

Personally, when one group of people is murdering and raping another, it's fair to treat them with caution. Again, the thing man fear about women is embarrassment, while women are literally afraid for their lives. You're a perfect example of a person who should develop more empathy and actually interact with more women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:48 AM
0

I don't feel that way. I love the men in my life. I feel like misogynists and people who hate women (which could be either gender) are problems, but it's not men in general I have an issue with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:36 AM
1

So they have more segregated societies out there. In my opinion, it just makes things worse. It makes the other gender "taboo," which leads to more secretive/damaging behaviour. For example, in India women aren't allowed to be alone with men and gender segregation is common, but rape is also extremely common. I think the real solution is increased empathy by increased exposure to one another. A key driver of harm against women is a hostile attitude that makes some men think women aren't actual p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 04:34 AM
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It's only a personal flaw if the person is actively suffering because of their narrow-minded choices. Be picky. If you find someone who meets your standards, cool. If you don't, or you do and they are not interested in you, then you don't have a relationship. Some people are perfectly happy having high standards and being single, and that's fine too! Where it becomes a problem is when you have high standards, no one you want wants to date you because your standards are too high, AND you get upse…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:27 PM
0

I think you have a very warped view on what it's like to be a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 01:03 PM
0

... neither are women? At least not unless you have an extremely warped sense of womanhood. Maybe thinking about women as just regular old people would help you a bit? We are not that different from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:17 AM
0

Bro, same
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 05:49 AM
0

I feel like you're stereotyping men. Just because it's uncomfortable for you does not mean it's uncomfortable for all men. That's the point. Men should be able to express themselves in ways that feel natural to them without worrying that judgemental people like you will view them as weak/unmasculine. For example, my husband is very manly. He's buff, 6'3, grew up on a ranch, loves "manly" things like sports and beer. Very heterosexual, not very feminine at all. However, he likes to paint his nail…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:19 AM
2

Like I said, it's likely so they avoid unwanted sexual attention, unfortunately :/ hope you can find some friends anyways!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 04:10 AM
3

Do you think male friendships are different?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:33 AM
2

Have you considered using a common interest (painting, hiking, gaming, whatever) to meet and befriend women? Generally, if we just meet a friendly guy, a lot of women won't seek a friendship because most "friendly" guys really just want sex/ romance. If you have a common interest, you can pursue that with them while communicating that you just want a friendship. Most of my male friends were clear in the beginning that romantic relationships were not on the agenda. People from work, or from schoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:32 AM
2

Ah buddy.... I know I wouldn't want to be alone in the woods with you, that's for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 03:10 AM
2

You're misinterpreting my words. I don't know you and I don't know if you would harm me. This is not an attack on YOU. However, you can agree that men rape and murder women, right? This study (using an article about the study since the original is behind a pay wall) shows that about a third of men surveyed would rape a woman if they could get away with it. Maybe, say, in the woods with no one around to see them, for example? That's enough evidence for me to approach men I don't know with caution…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 07:03 PM
2

That's a funny interpretation. I don't feel like the existence of men is harmful, but I do think the actions of some men are harmful. When dealing with an unknown man, how are women supposed to know if a given man is "safe" or if they will try to harm us somehow? When we don't know, it's logical to act with caution around men who can potentially harm us, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 06:17 PM
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No thank you. It's not my job to fix you or do the emotional labour for you. Why do you think it's our job to fix men who have plenty of resources to fix themselves but choose not to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:52 PM
1

Yeah, sure buddy. Just keep calling all women who have this opinion irrational. I am sure that will work out well for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:32 PM
2

Sure
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:24 PM
1

I disagree. I've encountered several bears while hiking, and my father used to hunt bears back in the day. I know what to do if I run into one whole alone in the woods that could generally increase my odds of survival, as long as the bear isn't startled or trying to protect its cubs. Men, though? A fair amount would be wanting to rape and/or murder me, and I wouldn't be able to do anything to stop them if that's what they wanted to do. No it's not all men, probably not even most, but it's enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 04:24 PM
3

I get that, but I've seen a lot of them attack both women and men for not holding the same beliefs. It's one thing to want to have your own society, it's another to fight with and attack everyone else who disagrees with you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:24 PM
1

Now just imagine you're a lesbian, because that's exactly how it works. No penis required to make more money or pay more bills.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:05 AM
0

I fully disagree. I think true manliness is understanding that your manhood and worth are not threatened by doing something as small as painting your nails. Every single one of us has feminine and masculine energy inside us. A true man can express his feminine side fully and his masculine side fully, too. And yes, I find that wildly attractive! It generally means he's not insecure and he's not obsessed with what "society" (you) say a man "should" be, but accepts who he is fully. If you are genui…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:57 AM
1

That's just been the experience of myself and many women I know. My guess is that ~30-40% of men in the dating pool don't meet those basic requirements, the rest are either not interested in you, or you don't have chemistry/common interests but they are decent people. That's just an estimate based on my perception, but I don't have stats to back it up.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:50 AM
3

Personally, I find the idea that half the population needs to be isolated from the other half to be toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:46 AM
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If you isolate PER ENCOUNTER to only encounters when ALONE with a man, that's just not true anymore. Most encounters are in public with lots of people, so not exactly where a predator will out themselves. If you look at encounters of women alone with men, that number goes way up. Here are some actual stats for you. https://blog.batchgeo.com/bear-attack-statistics/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/251923/usa-reported-forcible-rape-cases-by-gender/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/327462/wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:44 AM
2

Amazing how so many men get upset over this
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:38 AM
6

Choosing the bear does not mean that a woman thinks all men are more dangerous than a bear. More like plenty of men ARE more dangerous or as dangerous, and you don't know which random man will be in the woods with you. Also, most bears will leave you alone as long as you don't provoke it. If I see a bear a good distance away, I don't get super uncomfortable. I leave it alone, make lots of noise, and it will likely leave me be. But a man? He could be violent, and there are no behaviours I can use…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 07:50 PM
2

There are a lot of holes in your logic here, but I think I'll just say a few. Men can have children without women (sperm donation, adoption/foster care). If you think you're a "nice guy" or a nurturing man, then you are mistaken. All those things you list under dating do not contradict each other, and I really think you need to re-evaluate what those words mean to you. The way you speak about women as a monolith is sad and speaks volumes about your character.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:44 PM
1

I don't know how the bear conversation is an example. That's a rational decision based on experiences women have with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:36 PM
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I would not frame it that way. I think a more accurate way to think about it is "don't be a mean person to those around you." Sisterhood has nothing to do with it. Female separatists/misandrists are other examples of toxic feminity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 06:03 PM
3

That... it's a gross over simplification of some trends and a huge blame shift onto women. But here are a couple of thoughts on the matter to consider. Women don't need men for things they used to, and that's a good thing! Not needing men to open bank accounts, buy a house, have a job or earn money, and have children is GOOD for women because it gives us freedom over our lives! These are exactly the same freedoms that men have always had. This freedom gives us the opportunity to fill our lives w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:45 PM
1

Again, I get confused because you're blaming all women for something that... I don't think we did? We didn't collectively gather and say "men should do this and not that but we won't tell them!" There are no rules that women made up for society. And regarding the blaming men thing, how do we blame all men? You are blaming all women here, but I don't think "all men" are responsible for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 05:19 PM
0

So what I'm hearing is that men don't want to be told not to do things that are harmful to others. Because, generally, that's what myself (and feminists) don't want them to do. And they are upset because they can't or shouldn't harm people anymore...? That seems like a bad reason to be upset, and also shows that the men who are upset actually just want to harm other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 04:19 PM
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Absolutely! Being catty, tearing down other women, extreme levels of jealousy or controlling behaviours, "pick me" girls trying to be cool for the patriarchy, all of that can be considered toxic femininity. I think the major difference is toxic feminity (often) doesn't result in the physical harm/murder of others.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:53 PM
1

The thing that confuses me is who is stopping you from doing it? What consequences are faced? I don't understand the perceived persecution if men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:45 PM
1

That's not true at all. Lots of feminists wish men would engage in more "unmanly" things. I love seeing things that others would view as unmanly, like: men with painted nails, wearing dresses, crying, expressing emotions other than anger, cooking/cleaning/ doing housework, taking care of children... the list goes on. Men taking charge of their behaviour and mental health, expressing themselves in healthy ways, and growing into full, balanced human beings is good for everyone! And that involves r…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 01:44 PM
1

I think the biggest tell here is that you think sleeping with a dude makes you damaged. It doesn't, even if the guy isn't a good person. Sex, with anyone for any reason, as long as it's consensual, doesn't leave anyone damaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 09:35 AM
2

Speak for yourself. You don't speak for most men. The men I know do not feel this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:41 AM
2

Oh buddy, idk how you can miss the point so badly... You don't need anyone to "allow" you to change. Change just happens as people get older and have new experiences. Every single person changes over the course of their life. No one is stopping you from that. The thing is, some changes are for the better for that person and their relationships with others. It's not about what benefits women, but what benefits people overall. That generally defines a "good" change or "bad" change: how it impacts …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 06:29 AM
4

That's not what she's asking for. He has to be willing to live in a house that's styled, not design a home himself. It's for her to have a living space she's comfortable in. It's not a big ask and it's sad you find it so funny
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:06 PM
4

Do you genuinely think it's a big ask to live in a home that is well styled? She didn't even say his home had to have style, just that he had to live in a home with cohesive design. Do you think many men would not be able to do that? If so, you judge the gender too harshly.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:56 PM
0

https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/men-going-their-own-way-mgtow-what-you-need-know https://theconversation.com/men-are-more-likely-to-commit-violent-crimes-why-is-this-so-and-how-do-we-change-it-157331
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 02:37 PM
-2

...or maybe MGTOW is more violent and dangerous...?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:56 PM
2

I don't think you can really measure it well. You have "general" experiences, like women generally do more, but you can't really quantify that well. What you can do is look at individuals in a relationship and take a look at it there. Are both people getting their needs met? Is one or another doing more work than the other? What kind of work and how draining is it? Is there a way one person can take some of the load for the other and vice versa? Essentially, focus on your relationship. Work toge…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:41 AM
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You can't force everyone to be attracted to you. Doesn't mean you aren't attractive to others. No one is attractive to all the people they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:34 AM
3

The point: you're behaviour and attitude is the cause of how your life is. Not women. You: BuT wOmEn DonT LiKE mE! It's not their fault they don't like you, it's your job to be likeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:26 AM
5

You made up this hierarchy to feel like there is a reason why you aren't getting dates. It's not real.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:24 AM
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I know plenty of great guys who are around 5'5. I've dated some of them. Your height is not the reason why you can't date, your mindset is. No woman wants to be with a man who doesn't like himself, is negative, is sexist, and is disrespectful towards others. YOUR PERSONALITY is the problem, not your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:22 AM
5

Oh buddy... you are so close to seeing the point, but so far at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:19 AM
4

I think that fundamentally you need to realise that your ranking of humans is flawed. No one is a 4/10, no one is better or worse than anyone else. Some people may be better at one thing than another person, but that doesn't make them less valuable as a human being. You use this ranking system to make yourself feel better than others, but it just shows that you're insecure and need to have people "below" you to shit on. It's sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 10:16 AM
3

You should check out the "Man Enough" podcast. It's really interesting regarding the pressure men face.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 02:50 PM
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Op is making up things that don't actually happen just to be angry. No one who is in their right mind will rawdog a hookup, and if they do, they are stupid. (And another thing, I know a good man wouldn't care about my past adventures. A lot of women realise that an actually decent partner will accept them and not be judgemental)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:41 PM
12

I'm suggesting you're a bad person, and I hope women in real life pick up on that and avoid you. I feel sorry for any women who happen to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:48 PM
13

Ick. You're the kind of boy that women are warned about and give men a bad rap.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:43 PM
6

Never said it did.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:42 PM
13

So you agree you're deeply insecure. The first step is admitting it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:01 PM
13

I don't. Naive though, yeah, we all are when we're young. That's what OP wants, not youth.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 02:00 PM
16

Gross. Only someone deeply insecure would go after women who are more easily controlled and manipulated. That's pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:38 PM
3

It's healthy to express emotions, especially as men. But it's not healthy to have your emotions overwhelm you constantly. If he don't have the maturity to regulate his emotions, he has to really grow up more. That doesn't mean he shouldn't cry, but it means he needs to have the ability to self sooth, recognise his emotions, and not let them rule his behaviour. No one wants to be with an emotionally volatile partner, whether that volatility come in the form of angry outbursts or hysterical crying…
/r/RedPillWomen16/03/23 07:47 PM
16

They get defensive when I correct them or give them any negative feedback. If they are so insecure they can't handle honesty, they are not for me. If I have to minimise myself or my accomplishments to make them feel better about themselves. Get on my level or find someone else who doesn't intimidate you to be with. Not listening, flaking on plans, not following through on their word, bad hygiene, disrespect to those in a position "below" then, and just being inconsiderate to me or others. All si…
/r/RedPillWomen15/03/23 06:02 PM
2

You should be able to express to your partner that something they say or do bothers you. Don't move in with this person when you're communication skills are so weak and his emotional maturity is too low to deal with critical feedback.
/r/RedPillWomen15/03/23 04:59 PM
3

That makes sense. It takes time for a relationship to grow into a solid connection. I hope you get there, but don't rush into a marriage without being sure he's the right one for you!
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/23 06:11 PM
4

Are you sure you want to get married to someone who you don't have things in common with? It also sounds like you are struggling to communicate openly and honestly with him without him getting offended. If you can't be honest, especially when he doesn't like it, that's a terrible sign.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/23 05:37 PM
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Don't let him drive your car. There is no need to create shared tasks. Why would you need or want to give him things to do for you? Take care of yourself.
/r/RedPillWomen14/03/23 04:38 PM
1

You should not stay with someone because of guilt. It is up to you and you alone to uphold your boundaries. If I were you, I would send him a message or call him and tell him it's not working out. Give your reasons and break up. Then, when he spams you, BLOCK HIM. Then listen to the podcast Just Break Up.
/r/RedPillWomen13/03/23 04:00 PM
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