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Freethetreees/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:45 PM
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Yes. Every guy I date or am intimate with is categorized in my head as a potential husband
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:37 PM
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So true but sad. I fear and hate testosterone/masculinity, men are the biggest statistical danger in my life. but I’m attracted to masculine behaviors and physical indicators of testosterone and I love the usefulness they can bring and i’m safer from other men if I’m “spoken for” aka protected by an intimidating looking guy. It’s just a self fulfilling cycle, but it’s the only way women have survived through our evolutionary history.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:30 PM
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Men’s sexual aggression IS physical aggression. Equality doesn’t mean women have to participate in male on male inter social competition (which is usually over mates anyway). Sorry, women are going to keep the (very few) natural privileges we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:16 PM
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Penetration does nothing or feels painful to an unaroused vagina, but to an aroused vagina it feels pretty darn great. Like an internal massage that hits just the right spot and sends pleasure everywhere. Like you know how satisfying it can be to put a q tip in your ear? It’s like that but sexier lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:08 PM
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So true. Instead of the “Brad Pitt rule” it’s the Kim Kardashian rule. Would he string Kim k along for years putting off marrying her? Hell no. So don’t let him do it to you. Either you’re a Stacy in his eyes or you’re a temporary masturbation aid that he’ll drop at his convenience
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 10:01 PM
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This. Men don’t want actual empathy (which would look like mothering and hen pecking) they want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:52 PM
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The actual number doesn’t matter, as long as he’s had adequate sexual and RELATIONSHIP experience. Dealbreakers are cheating, stds, kids, prostitutes, and “all my exes were crazy”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/19 09:48 PM
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AMALT. Beta males are just as polygamous as alphas
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 03:54 AM
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Everyone benefits from economic equality, except for unattractive men apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 10:40 PM
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You have the right to pursue happiness and sex, but you are not entitled to it if no one wants to give it to you. Women are entitled to the societal benefits their taxes pay into, regardless of how much those taxes are. All women that capable of reproducing “pass” as far as natural selection is concerned. Males don’t select, beyond who they empty their balls into. The provider role only existed because women were forced into being second class citizens and forced into being dependent to individu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:21 PM
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Equal opportunity to sex, not equal outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 05:18 PM
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Equal freedom and everyone paying taxes does not a matriarchy make. I want welfare for everyone, especially families, and social/sexual Darwinism aka natural selection for men. Men have the same right as women to have their basic needs met by welfare, but sex and companionship are not included
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 11:49 AM
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Men could make it work that way tomorrow if they chose to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:23 PM
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And the unattractive rich men want to believe they’re so special the gold diggers are attracted to them for anything more than their wallet
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:23 PM
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In an effort to get commited sex In the future
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:02 AM
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The sexually unwanted will be repeat customers. I don’t care what polite society tells men, but that’s the truth for the bottom 25-30% and it’s a good thing for the species that they don’t breed but still continue to support society. Paying sex workers who in turn pay taxes is the bare minimum of contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:38 AM
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I fail to see the problem. Men can become gay prostitutes too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:32 AM
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Couldn’t be any worse than cleaning a seedy hotel room or a shady movie theater. Regardless, I’m not worried about it. Legalize it, regulate it, tax it. But never normalize being a John, purchasing sex should always be the realm of the unwanted and disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:28 AM
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I’m sure they would need someone to mop the floors or make the beds or answer the phone or do book keeping. There’s more than one job at a brothel my man
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 12:11 AM
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Women want sex with men who they actually like and who are COMMITTED to them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 11:35 PM
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Unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:31 PM
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Forreal
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:27 PM
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Ugly is genetically weak
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 09:24 PM
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Careful not to pull something with that crazy stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:46 PM
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No, it’s normal when they’re both under 18. We’re talking about adult men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 08:44 PM
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That makes no sense. Love exists to facilitate reproduction and pair bonding. We’re meant to fall in love with each other’s dna, not decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:52 PM
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Why should I feel empathy for wannabe pedos? They can still get sex but not from “jailbait” and treat it like it’s the end of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:41 PM
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Preach. These dudes are delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:01 PM
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But it has changed drastically, it’s unrecognizable from the original Chinese empire. You’re downplaying women’s roles in medicine and agriculture, two of human society’s greatest triumphs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:00 PM
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Which is why I will never ever feel bad for these men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:22 PM
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And many of the strictly patriarchal societies in history also collapsed. Not a good argument. All civilizations “collapse” (or more likely, evolve) eventually, nothing is meant to last forever. Even the tallest oldest redwood must eventually cede it’s place in the sun to new sprouts. And IF you are correct that civilization can only exist if my sexuality is oppressed, why would any sane self interested woman be pro civ? It’s like asking slaves to be pro plantation. Nah fam, burn it down.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:16 PM
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Middle class semi urban multi ethnic place here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:14 PM
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It’s probably demographic related too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:11 PM
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Maybe men shouldn’t have sex with women they don’t see as worthy for ltr. Maybe men should hold their genitals to the same standard as their hearts, like women do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:10 PM
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You don’t need to unnecessarily moralize natural behaviors which don’t directly harm anyone. The natural behaviors which are proven to directly harm people should be discouraged. But Being slutty hurts no one, while cheaters and infant killers are clearly in a different category. And no, abortion is not murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:07 PM
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Maybe the percentage of attractive men which are good choices (unlikely to pump and dump) is very small?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 06:06 PM
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Yeah I figured. Over a decade before the time I’m speaking of. We’re talking from different perspectives, guys nowadays are talking up “bad bitches” and sluts like they want to marry them lol very confusing and frustrating
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:54 PM
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You’re not a harem master and never will be unless you move to Saudi Arabia lol keep dreaming with that fragile ego that needs false narratives to survive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:52 PM
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Disagree. It’s because of male nature. Her habit is trying to lock down attractive men for commitment with sex, like every other female since the sun first rose over the earth. Men will pump and dump mother Theresa, it’s not always a reflection on the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:50 PM
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So he’s managing being a regular person who has casual sex? The women are also doing the same thing. It’s not anything to be proud of. It’s literally not a harem. Give it up. That’s just neurotic male ego speak for normal casual sex. People who have never had casual sex need to stop putting it on a pedestal and acting like it’s an impressive feat lol the guy doesn’t have a harem if all the girls he’s banging have harems of their own
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:48 PM
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But then it keeps happening and guy number 2 and 3 and 4 also don’t commit. It began after guy 1
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:46 PM
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It’s only ok to harm someone who is actively trying to harm you. This ain’t advanced philosophy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:45 PM
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He’s not “managing” anything if the women are not committed to him. In actual harems the women are forced to be sexually loyal and commited. The soft “harems” you’re talking about are just people having casual sex, and those people are typically also having casual sex with other people. In a legitimate harem everything is blatant and the women know about each other
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:43 PM
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Untrue, what if the first man left her? That’s creating a slut.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:41 PM
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What year did you graduate high school, if you don’t mind me asking? I think this is a recentish phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:40 PM
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It’s true. The extent of societal Female sexual suppression waxes and wanes throughout history, which gives me hope.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:37 PM
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Self defense is an obvious exception homie
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:37 PM
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Well thanks for at least trying to understand and empathize, that’s a lot more than most men will give to the “sluts” they dehumanize. I appreciate you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:36 PM
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I use the moral standard of amount of direct harm done, I think that’s the simplest and most natural way morality can be measured
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:29 PM
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Perhaps, but your original point is still proven false by his existence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:27 PM
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Both of these things can be true. Capitalism capitalizes (no pun intended) on the worst parts of human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:26 PM
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The onus is on those hundreds of men. Why didn’t they commit? If men want sluts to go away and stop slutting then they need to retire her from the carousel themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:24 PM
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Yes, especially in our current culture. It’s very confusing for a young woman. This is the real red pill and anger phase for millennial women, society lied to us that acting and looking like the Kardashian’s would make the men we want love and commit to us. And then when you find that out you see men online saying shit like “if she made a mistake once she’s forever broken and unworthy of love” like cool so I lost the game as a teenager and I can never redeem myself? And then those same bozos go …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:23 PM
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Classic capitalism is evil and takes advantage of people, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:22 PM
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They need to stop that if they want sluts to not exist. Can’t have it both ways. Commitment or gtfo and stop slut shaming
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:22 PM
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Thanks for the injection of sanity, Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:21 PM
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You just proved yourself wrong, thanks. The pope is the highest ranking male in the western patriarchy, and he never has to marry or provide for women or children. Religion and patriarchy are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:20 PM
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I don’t celebrate human nature, I just acknowledge it. I personally won’t cheat or fraud or accept a cheater, but I’d be foolish to believe it wasn’t natural for us. Oh and human beings aren’t a species particularly known for infanticide of healthy babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:19 PM
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They know they’re obscuring the truth so that they can continue using another human being for their own gain
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:18 PM
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Men are creating sluts by having sex with women they would never commit to, yes. Most women have sex in an effort to get romantic commitment, men are the creators of sluts. If men actually hated sluts as much as they say, they could make them disappear tomorrow. But, that would mean no more casual sex and they’d actually have to be honest with women, so men will continue to be selfish and complain about the “problem” they created. Anyone out there who’s anti slut better be committing to every gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:13 PM
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Yes they do and yes it does. They know exactly what they’re doing and what they’re saying. They know it’s wrong, but they view their own temporary sexual needs as more important than the lifelong self actualization and needs of someone else. If men were honest they would never use the word love outside of intentions to commit. They would say “she’s sexy, perfect for me to use casually then throw away”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:08 PM
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Plenty of unmarried men held positions of power in patriarchies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:08 PM
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Reproduction is about commitment is about love
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:07 PM
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Not true. Women will say he has good ltr traits, that he’s husband material. they will not lie and say being nice and deferential is sexy. Men lie and tell women being slutty will make them loved then turn around and slut shame the same women like “oh you believed me? Then you’re stupid as well as a slut lulz”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:04 PM
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Stop dismissing men’s immoral manipulative tactics. They know exactly what they’re doing and saying when they tell women they “love” sluts. If you believe sluts are not worthy of love, and you still willingly create those sluts knowing they will be miserable and unloveable, you are an evil person. Case closed. It’s like someone defending Purdue pharmaceuticals for peddelaing opiates they knew would harm people.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 05:01 PM
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No it didn’t, men had freedom to never marry
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:58 PM
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Rejecting someone for their genes makes a ton more sense reproductively than for their past decisions, genes are what you’re selecting a mate based on. Actions and mistakes are not passed on, looks are. I’ll be damned if I have to face consequences for actions that harm no one, I’ll lie and pretend to be the Madonna men “love” and they and the species will be better for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:56 PM
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Yeah you probably have a point. Men verbally shit on sluts all they want, but then they still end up marrying one in a white dress lol maybe the sexes should stop listening to what the other has to say and just watch what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:54 PM
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Humans are animals, animals seek to pass on their genes and have as many genetically diverse babies survive to adulthood as possible. We’re ALL meant for serial pairbonding monogamy with the highest value mate we can lock down, with secret cheating on the side - that’s human sexuality. Monogamy and sluttiness go hand in hand, we have a dual nature as humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:50 PM
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a harem only exists if there’s commitment, otherwise it’s just people having casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:48 PM
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The same man who says the hoe housewife baloney also says he “loves” sluts. What are women supposed to make of these conflicting narratives? Women never say “that guy was so passive and nice I want to fuck him, wow being nice is so sexy” whereas men consciously lie to women to get them to behave in ways they believe harm them and make them unworthy to be loved, all to get their sexual needs met. Again, much more malicious.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:42 PM
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It has always been about mate selection. All women are human (whores) there are NO madonnas and men have trouble coping with that reality and rationalize it in weird ways. Patriarchy was about controlling female sexuality to artificially create “madonnas” who were actually just sexually repressed chattel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:37 PM
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Most every woman wants to be considered relationship worthy, so it is always an insult. It’s also very dehumanizing to say you are not worthy of love if you enjoy sex too much or the wrong way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:36 PM
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The difference is: men encourage women to be sluts and keep their disdain and intentions to never commit secret. Men will say they “love” sluts, knowing full well that when women hear the word love they think of commitment. What men are actually saying is they “love” to fuck sluts. They should be honest and be saying that sluts are useful and easy for fucking, but that they’ll always look down on them and never love them. They’re intentionally hurting women for their own sexual gain. This is evi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:24 PM
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This is the truth. Wish I could upvote more than once
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:19 PM
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Better than never having it at all
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:17 PM
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Cohabitation takes away the mystery and the pedestalization. When we have a lack of information our brain fills in the gaps for us, and when we are infatuated with someone it fills those gaps in with flattering things. But when confronted with the actual real man who leaves the toilet seat up and the toothpaste cap off the tube, the magic fades. So my message to bros: keep the magic and mystery alive! Stay on your game, keep up the effort, keep flirting with and courting your partner, keep actin…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 04:12 PM
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It’s not out of fashion at all, I see it daily on this very subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:59 PM
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I like the Nordic model just fine, it lets women earn money and status with sex while keeping low value males in their place. Sorry to break it to you but women have more intrinsic value than men, so she literally IS born with higher status and worth than you. Either cry about it, try to enslave women again and artificially lower their societal value, or go out and build value and status like a man. It’s about time that women used their sexual advantages to rise above the cog wheel masses, the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:47 PM
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Physical size, strength and toughness, risk taking, protectiveness, self sacrifice, courage, competitiveness, industriousness, ambition and aggression, competence, sexual virility, confidence and swagger Traits associated with high levels of testosterone, which happen to be v attractive. Tall height, strong jaw, broad shoulders, visible muscles. To me is comes down to three tenants: is the guy hot, powerful, and useful? Then he’s masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:39 PM
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So true. Bunch of neurotic low T males upset about the success of feminism try to use feminine tactics and look stupid in the process
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:38 PM
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Chads would never need to. Prostitutes are for incels and the disabled
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:28 PM
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Not a retard, but it IS a very modern thought. Men in most of history had no problem getting most of their sex from women who didn’t want them. Brothel visits and rape and pillaging were common
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:17 PM
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The Madonna whore complex called
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:15 PM
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“I don’t want sex workers to financially benefit or have any social power over me, because even though I want them to be a legal business I still view sex workers as icky and undeserving of status” isn’t a compelling argument for why successful capitalists shouldn’t enjoy the financial and social fruits of their labor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 03:11 PM
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It’s very true. Nature is playing us all as puppets to ensure humans exist
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 03:43 PM
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Cool talk. I hope your 420 is rad
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 03:41 PM
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The male strategy is serial monogamy with the main woman he provides for, while cheating and creating bastards on the side that he doesn’t provide for. Heirs and bastards is the male af/bb. Both sexes cheat during serial monogamy for maximum genetic variation, but the woman obviously has to provision for her bastards in a way the man does not. The winning female sexual strategy is to mate guard well enough that her man is too busy taking care of his legit family to create bastards, while also ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 03:33 PM
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Great post, OP. Most men are objectively ugly, and women shouldn’t be demonized for not being attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 03:21 PM
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Your last sentence is the tricky part. But have an upvote for telling the truth without making women the villain
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 03:11 PM
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Men have an easier time identifying fuckboys just like women have an easier time identifying gold diggers. Most women are not able to identify a fuckboy until it’s too late, just like men and gold diggers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 02:59 PM
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Our babies require a lot of attention and provision to survive to adulthood, especially in our natural environment. A single man could not provide for the babies of 10 women for the time required to reach maturity, if he tried that tactic the majority of his babies would die young from lack of provisions. This is why pair bonding exists, and serial monogamy exists, to facilitate longterm male parental investment while the offspring is vulnerable. A man would stay very close with the one woman he…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 02:54 PM
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You can convince people at large to act a certain way, but you cannot convince them to feel a certain way. Romantic jealousy and the desire for sexual “ownership” and commitment can’t just be stamped down, in either sex. When a man actually cares about a woman, he doesn’t want to share her, but a woman is willing to share her man if that’s the only way she can keep him:(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 07:04 PM
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Pairbonding and love exist for a reason, and that reason is our 10 plus years of parental investment and long gestation period. Sorry it goes against your sexual imperative to spread your semen across the world, but love=sexual exclusivity is written in our genetic code and a few horny outliers aren’t going to convince the rest of the population to just forget that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:56 PM
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I don’t blame men, I just resent their nature for going against mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:48 PM
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This is the real red pill for women. Men aren’t programmed for love, men are programmed to fuck all the women they can. Wish I was a lesbian
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:47 PM
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Biology don’t care. It’s as stupid as asking “when will men stop wanting sex?” The answer is fucking never
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:46 PM
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That strategy is not in her best interest. Alpha bucks is the strategy women are trying to inpliment when they make men they actually like wait for sex. Men misunderstand this and get insecure, when they’re actually being treated like the prize
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:41 PM
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I don’t want sex without commitment attached, which is why I won’t be having it any more. It’s an uneven exchange at my expense, because if I want to have sex with someone, it means I like them enough to want to be with them. Whereas men do not operate under the same instincts. It’s not about “deserving” there’s no moral or legal entitlement, but I take measures to get what I want while avoiding painful experiences I do not want. Sorry I’ll correct myself, we all manipulate except for the spergs…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:36 PM
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Sex is an intimate act which may or may not result in a decades long commitment for the woman. Sorry for expecting some sort of emotional commitment when my womb is at stake. This is the exact reason why I won’t have sex without commitment in the future. “Someone worth committing to” varies from man to man, and men like to keep their feelings on where a particular woman stands perpetually obscured while they’re getting their needs met. We all manipulate each other, but it’s the intent that matte…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:29 PM
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It’s the man’s fault he’s insecure about his position in the masculine hierarchy. She is doing what is in her best interest, how he takes that is up to him
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:26 PM
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Women get pregnant with a baby that takes over a decade before it reaches maturity. Women are always going to want commitment and love, this is not going away
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 06:26 PM
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It still is in a woman’s BEST INTEREST not to have sex at all with said man, regardless of whether commitment was on the table at all. Men don’t show their cards until after they’ve gotten what they’re after, they keep it very vague and give you the idea that they’re considering commitment if you just fuck them the right way. Getting pumped and dumped is taking a big L, but she loses nothing by stringing along would be fuck boys who drop off the face of the earth when she doesn’t put out. If com…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:05 PM
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That’s if you never want an ltr with a woman who really wants to be with you.. We’re playing by different rules because we have different goals and definitions of winning. Women think your happily ever after is the same as theirs, they want to love and commit to you. Women don’t want to have sex and make themselves vulnerable only to be tossed aside. So yeah if you want to be ruled out as an ltr option you should be extremely honest about your intentions to fuck around as much as possible, and d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 05:01 PM
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No, it definitely happens. Straight men wouldn’t have much experience or insight into this, but you can rely on them to encourage women to sacrifice their sexual imperative for theirs. Don’t ask the fish, ask the fisher woman lol I’ve heard so many men talk about women saying things like “I’d fuck her but I wouldn’t date her” which is very frustrating for most women, since it’s a game we don’t play or understand. “Why would you want to fuck her if you wouldn’t date her? If she’s good enough to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:53 PM
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No, height and frame would be the equivalent of youth and waist/hip ratio
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:48 PM
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Women care about gene quality, men care about womb quality. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:45 PM
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Men made it this way by having sex with women they wouldn’t commit to. If men committed to every woman they had sex with, women wouldn’t care about waiting
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:32 PM
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It’s a compliment because it implies you’re a chad she wants a call back from so she’s trying a different tactic. It’s still a compliment, even if it doesn’t cater to the male sexual imperative
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:32 PM
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“You’re a fun girl, not a boring girl my parents would like” I haven’t personally been told this, but it’s men projecting their desire to spread their seed on women and thinking being in the “fuck box” instead of the “ltr box” is winning. Women do the opposite by telling men they have ltr worthy traits. Also “you’re not like other girls” bitch sure I am and if you don’t like girls you should hit up Grindr
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 04:29 PM
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Sexual selection is a subset of natural selection. The “whores” and their genetically superior Chad babies are outbreeding tradcons, so the Madonna whore complex will eventually be bred out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 03:57 PM
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Sounds like we’re overdue for the Madonna whore complex carrying gene to die out. Natural selection will take care of it eventually and feminist chads will inherit the earth :)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 07:24 PM
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There’s no difference between “hoes” and women who have a high sex drive who are sexually adventurous and generous. The only difference is how blatant they are in their behavior and dress and how much they keep to themselves. The “classy” girl is a hoe given the right guy and circumstances. Even your mom and grandma, even Mary the holy “virgin”, all “hoes”. Slut and hoe are just words for women who aren’t having sex or dressing the way men want them to. Lol I’ve never met a man of value and stat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 04:58 PM
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Your definition is correct but you miss the point that what people and society define as “appropriate sexual behavior” changes and differs from person to person. Slut shaming will ALWAYS be sex negative. You are not logically consistent. Just accept that you’re sex negative and ONLY pro sex when it occurs in the contexts you approve of. Why do you want to adopt the sex positive label so badly? Just admit you’re a conservative. if you want to be part of the cool kids sex positive club, you gotta …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 11:40 AM
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You know what feels even better? Going into the real world and seeing “sluts” aka regular women with sex drives and sexual histories locking down high value men, even though “chads” on the internet reeeee at the top of their lungs that it could never happen
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 11:38 AM
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Sex is not a need. The current paradigm is good for the gene pool, women are not being “sexually irresponsible”, they’re actually finally being responsible by selecting for Chad genes instead of being forced to settle for beta genes by the patriarchy. Women pay into taxes, they deserve the freedom to fuck the men who they want who also want to fuck them. I don’t support keeping good willing fathers away from their children, and I absolutely support egg donation and womb surrogates for men, espec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 11:36 AM
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Men are youth fetishists
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 12:03 AM
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Lying about the present and the future is way worse than lying about the past
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 10:42 PM
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There’s no sexual safety net for anyone. I’m talking about safety nets for actual NEEDS like food, housing, and healthcare. I don’t want to repress half the population to get my dick wet, I have the entire high ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:40 PM
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AWALT. We’re all born to be sluts to make genetically diverse offspring and unattractive men have been mad about it since time began. The majority of males throughout history were just stacking bricks, and for every rare super productive male genius who brought us steps forward there were ten destructive male retards who dragged us backward. Thankfully society doesn’t need to cow tow to entitled male masses anymore. We have robots to stack the bricks now. No man on reddit is a Chad. The fact you…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:31 PM
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Thinking someone is trash for having consensual sex is the DEFINITION of sex negative
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 08:27 PM
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The sense of guilt comes from slut shaming. Wanting to suck and fuck is literally “normal sexual expression”. What society deems “normal sexual expression” changes thankfully
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:28 PM
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Grow up and realize women are people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:27 PM
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Nah I like things just the way they are. Freedom for everyone and safety nets for everyone. The genetically worthless males can cry about it while paying taxes on their sex dolls. Natural sexual selection is good for the species.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:25 PM
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Every woman is a thot on the inside, die mad about it like your ancestors. Women have value beyond chastity, and the men who will father and raise the future generations will know that. Yes men worked so very hard to control women’s sexuality, and now they’re running scared that women have finally escaped the patriarchal shackles they built. A new better civicization will rise from the ashes, a civilization with sexy Chad dna, not the dna of neurotic unattractive beta male slave masters who fear…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:16 PM
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Do not put out! Pay close attention to how he treats and talks about “slutty” looking or acting women. Ask how he feels about feminism. Pay close attention to his relationship with his mother or sisters - does he act weirdly protective of their sexualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:13 PM
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Yes they are
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 05:09 PM
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Men don’t like the real nature of women, men don’t like women at all beyond sex and nurturing maternal behavior. They prefer the “good girl” lie to actual women. Men don’t fall in love with sexual women, they fall in love with the image of innocence and youth. It’s the only way to temporarily turn off “cad” instincts of pump and dump and onto the next conquest and convinces them to feel protective and invested instead. If women showed their “real selves” to men they want commitment from, the hum…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 04:55 PM
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Perhaps it is undue for the man individually. Perhaps the man thinks he is worthy of a free flight to Paris when he’s barely worthy of a free flight to McDonald’s
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:49 PM
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No. They’re still women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:45 PM
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Nope it’ll be feminist sex positive Chad and his thot babies that will inherit the earth. Insecure sex negative males will go extinct by spraying their genes into robots because real women who like sex are too scary or icky. When every woman is a thot no woman gets slut shamed and the men with double standards die alone, this an ideal world
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/19 03:12 PM
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If men had the same amount of opportunity as women, they would run through sex partners way faster. Scarcity mentality is NOT real gratitude and loyalty, it’s just a loser holding tight to the only trophy he knows he’ll ever win
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:42 PM
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But if most men WERE attractive enough to fuck the secretary, 99% of them would.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:39 PM
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You’re correct in your observations but incorrect in your emotional conclusion. You weren’t invited to the buffet in the first place, homeboy. Friends freely give and take emotional investment, that’s what friendship is. The average male needs to realize their individual genetic worth is a lot less than they think, most men are meant to eat from the trash outside the buffet. But orbiters will continue to orbit the buffet of women out of their league and then get angry about nature taking its cou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:20 PM
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There’s no need to destroy what doesn’t reproduce
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 10:13 PM
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Because I’m insecure about his level of investment in the relationship with me, not about his investment in the sex. A man will have consistent sex with women he doesn’t even like, let alone see a future with.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 07:59 PM
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No. I worry if he thinks I’m the most attractive woman he’s been with, or the most fun to be around, or the most compatible. If he’s orgasming every time, I’m good enough at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:59 PM
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Yep. You’d rather have access to sex and no commitment, I’d rather have access to commitment and no sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:55 PM
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Truth. But I’d rather be used and discarded and allowed to have agency to move on than be collected like a trading card where im expected to be 100% loyal while he fucks whoever he wants. At least when you’re a man you can stay on top of your game as her best option and be secure in your relationship, as a woman it’s never secure, especially when time, familiarity, and aging makes men even more likely to step out. “But he still comes home to you and keeps you in his roster!” yeah that’s not a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:38 PM
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When women get bored they break up with their current partner, not try to collect a variety of partners. That is a male phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 06:02 PM
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So you’re ok with people using each other, alright. I hope you remember that next time someone uses you to advance their goals at the expense of yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 04:19 PM
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We all are just trying to get better (hotter) genes for our babies
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 03:41 AM
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and she thinks with some amount of certainty that she can gain commitment from that better man. Otherwise, no cheating occurs. Men are way more likely to cheat, since their parameters for cheating to happen are more likely to occur
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:33 AM
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Not “anybody”. Women don’t cheat when their man is the best she can get, men definitely still do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:14 AM
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Agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:11 PM
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Mixed gender group, without a doubt. You get the best of both worlds in a hybrid dynamic. The girls are less dramatic and uptight and catty thanks to the guys, the guys are less gross and annoying and spergy thanks to the girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 08:06 PM
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It certainly horrified me, but I’d like to think I’m better off knowing. Ignorance is bliss until you’re pumped and dumped over and over with no clue as to why or what “male nature” actually is or how to combat it strategically
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:52 PM
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No one likes having their imperative challenged, not a man/woman angry/happy person thing. It’s an everyone thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:45 PM
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Forget the “protected class” stuff. And the reason women see male sexuality as predatory and against their best interests is because that’s objectively the TRUTH. Men would take just as much umbrage to a forum of anonymous women formulating the best ways to keep their dicks dry and use them for cash
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:43 PM
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Fucking a woman casually who wanted a relationship is the DEFINITION of using a woman for sex. You can say using women is ok with your personal morality, but you don’t get to gaslight and claim it isn’t using someone at the expense of their interests in order to further your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:35 PM
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I’m always at a baseline of femininity in that I feel female and like a woman. I only really feel feminine in the performative sense when I’m either dressed up to the nines for a formal event, or I’m in the presence of a hot masculine man who brings out my high pitched voice and girly giggles. I love when a man can lift me up and spin me around
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:10 PM
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To me it feels binary. Either I want to jump his bones and have his dick in me, or I don’t. Eh I’m of the opinion that alpha and beta are genetic, while blue pill and red pill are learned behavior. So the ideal man is a genetic alpha with blue pill behavior, white knight pro female imperative. I would want my hypothetical sons to have such attractive genes that they don’t need game, and can be good feminist allies. People aren’t like animals..we ARE animals. And that’s a good thing. I like human…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 07:02 PM
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The longest I’d wait for a proposal at my age is five or so years. But I’d want to know his feelings regarding long term commitment and matrimony sooner rather than later. At the first sign of being anti marriage (aka risk averse and possibly misogynistic) he gets nexted. No tolerance for time wasters, I value myself too much to be a forever girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:32 PM
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I’d sooner create a co-op family with another single mother (or two!) than shack up with a man I have no sexual attraction for. Unless he was gay or asexual, maybe. Oh and I’d never want to curse my children with beta genes lol, I do want grandkids someday. That’s really wonderful of you to be willing to adopt. I think I really have a desire to propagate my own genes and have little mini me’s, but I’d absolutely foster and adopt if I couldn’t physically have my own. It’s more about not having to…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:25 PM
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Also from a female perspective, I’d be a lot happier and a lot less creeped out or betrayed if my husband owned a VR headset compared to a sex cadaver. VR porn is just like regular porn when it comes to the ick factor, it’s something most women can turn the other cheek to. But a sex doll is a real physical object and a legitimate reminder of your partner’s desire to cheat on you. A guy who fucks a sex doll is as gross as a guy who fucks a prostitute, it’d be a total dealbreaker in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 06:18 PM
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If I didn’t want my own family someday and a partner to share the bills with, I probably wouldn’t pursue men at all. In the meantime I’m unicorn hunting, or looking for the rare alpha bucks/high beta man with few AMALT traits or the integrity not to indulge in their baser nature. If that doesn’t work out, I’ll become a single mother from a spermbank or a fuck buddy when I’m older and financially stable on my own. I’m not missing out on motherhood and the meaning of life just because men suck. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 05:21 PM
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It's not good for the human genome to "look past superficiality". The superficial is the real.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 07:45 PM
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If a woman settles with a man she's not attracted to, she's the bad guy. If she has sex with men she's attracted to, she's still the bad guy. Women can't win with people with views like this. What power do women really have when they can't control what and who they are attracted to?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 07:40 PM
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Ok, but you can’t complain if that affects your girlfriend’s view of you
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 01:35 AM
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Hopefully the man I’m with will be so tall that a more intimidating man coming along will be a rare occurrence. But regardless of appearances, I’d definitely want my guy to stand up for me and yell back at the harassers or at least ask if I’m ok. Getting into a fight over it isn’t necessary, in fact i’d prefer the conflict stay nonviolent and I’d probably stop him from escalating, but if IS necessary that he’d be WILLING to fight for me. A cowardly man with no balls who refuses to fight is worse…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:25 PM
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Yes. You walk away the winner, not the loser. You got commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:14 AM
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How is it callous? It’s smart and has nothing to do with the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:08 AM
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Sometimes. I’ve had an on and off fwb arrangement with a friend I wasn’t all that into while I was wooing the guy I actually wanted to be with. It makes it waaaay easier to take things slow with my goal guy and increases the chances of commitment from him. It keeps my hormones at bay, which can be difficult when the guy i’m pursuing is just my type. I’d recommend it to my high libido girls having trouble landing commitment. I always assume the guy I’m dating also has fuck buddies, since they’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 04:02 AM
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No. AMALT. All men are wired by nature to desire to be players, hookup culture just enables their baser instincts. It’s easier to be a rake than ever in history, sadly.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 01:48 AM
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AMALT. There are no romantic men, only men without options for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 01:07 AM
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The entitlement is baffling. Men used to just be entitled to sex, but NOW they think they're entitled to CASUAL sex with hot women without paying for it. Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 01:02 AM
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But "men are the romantic sex, so says RP
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 01:00 AM
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Enjoy getting #metoo'd or becoming a baby daddy. Thank god feminism is finally holding males accountable for sexually malicious predatory behavior. I hope society continues to crack down in the future so my granddaughters won't even have to worry about these sort of things. Enthusiastic consent only - before, during, and AFTER intercourse :) No more deadbeats, no more sex thieves.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 12:55 AM
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> If you can't see how that would push people toward TRP and other places that gives them actionable advice on attracting women then you are the one lost I now understand men not only consider themselves entitled to sex, but also specifically to casual sex. They compare their lives to "Chad"'s and feel entitled to the same lifestyle, even though they don't and can't bring as much to the table. > PPD is supposedly about disproving TRP advice\PUA\Manosphere advice on attracting women for the bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 12:42 AM
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That's an option for the pathetic and morally destitute, sure
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 12:40 AM
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Yes. Don't love him for something he is not and cannot be, love him for what he is and what he brings. And he'll hopefully be doing the same, I don't want to be pedestalized. The inevitable fall from the pedestal isn't fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:27 PM
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Yeah it really isn't sad. It just is. I see most men as "male" in a platonic neutered sense like how I see my male relatives. But then some men stand out as Men with a capital M.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:18 PM
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How is not being able to get modern casual sex a death sentence? Throughout history most men experienced sex in marriage and/or brothels, not tinder. It's not so much "fuck off and die" but more "fuck off and pay for it with money or commitment like the average man you are"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:10 PM
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> "as long as you're the youngest, most buxom woman in his life, he'll love you. Love men for what they are." That is almost reality. It's more like "as long as you let him fuck the all the youngest, most buxom women in his life while still taking care of him and not fucking anyone else". AMALT. I know this and I still love men, somehow. I know all the behaviors they express that I resent I only resent because they go against my interests. But their instincts are still good for the species, and …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:08 PM
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Not everyone "deserves" casual sex: something all men want but few women want, something pretty much only men enjoy. Some men are limited to sex within relationships, simply because their genes weren't meant to be spread.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 08:56 PM
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I probably wouldn’t even be attracted to him in the first place. But let’s say hypothetically I am. If I meet an awesome man I like to assume he was just born awesome and our babies will also be born awesome. I don’t want that fantasy destroyed, its a large part of the male appeal. If my guy used to be a loser I’d rather he keep his past to himself so I can live in blissful ignorance. I don’t think my future boyfriend wants to hear about all the times I failed to fuck my way into a relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 06:05 PM
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There are more “non natural” males in our current generation, that’s for sure. Mostly due to lack of testosterone and rising neuroticism. But naturals were damn common in past generations, naturals were just normal men. My father was a natural “Chad” who sex and relationships just happened to.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:36 PM
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It’s not hypocrisy. Male genes matter more than female genes, sperm is cheap and eggs are valuable. Men don’t care about women’s genes, they care about women’s fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 10:16 PM
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Average is fine, but my ideal would be long and thin. I know a lot of other girls like girth, but I personally hate the feeling of being stretched, it hurts. I really like having my g spot stimulated and my cervix (lightly) touched, though. Maybe I have a long but narrow vagina? Idk
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 09:54 PM
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Don’t tell women what the female experience is like. Finding out about male nature is shocking, our culture does not prepare men OR women for the sexual marketplace. When women are told “men only want one thing” it’s told with a chuckle and an elbow to the ribs, so women don’t take it seriously as a warning and a negative fact of life. It’s treated as a joke, not actual advice. And then women are left floundering without answers when men only want to fuckzone, not commit. Then they’re told “ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 07:06 PM
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Chicken and egg. Women love dangerous men because those men are better at protecting them and their children from OTHER dangerous men. If men weren’t the biggest threat to women and children’s safety, women wouldn’t have to select for protectors capable of violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 07:05 PM
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That’s not refuting any of my points about the negative side of male nature. Women find the male sexual imperative just as shocking and horrific as men find the female sexual imperative. When I was blue pill I believed men and women were exactly the same except for genitalia. I was much more likely to give men the benefit of the doubt and assumed men had the same feminine motivations of nurturing and protecting the weak and seeking social harmony and consensus. I assumed grown men looked at youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 06:29 PM
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All men disdain women at their core. They resent that women have autonomy and choice over their sexuality. Men hate the power women naturally have over them (their dicks). Meanwhile, women disdain men for being the main physical danger in their lives, they envy men for that physical power and they disdain men for attempting to use that physical power to control their sex lives. We’re too busy hating and being jealous of the other’s advantages when we should just be teaming up.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 06:29 PM
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Men are only as loyal as their options, naturally polygamous and sexually predatory. It doesn’t matter if you’re the perfect partner, your man will still cheat on you with women objectively worse than you are if he’s given an opportunity to do so with 0 consequences. Men value youth, beauty, and sexual availability and variety above everything else. They will inevitably love you less for things you can’t control, like getting older or having motherhood negatively affect the appearance of your bo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 06:22 PM
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A lot of their conclusions are made from projection. Someone says “women have an easier time getting casual sex” and then they assume most women go out every weekend and have gangbangs, because that’s what THEY would do if they had the option.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 07:20 PM
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Women are more valuable and less dangerous, just facts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:41 PM
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Perfect comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 06:41 PM
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Well it's the truth. Supply and demand works both ways. Cut the supply and demand increases, the more cheap knockoffs flooding the market the more appealing the expensive real deal looks
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 06:15 PM
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Great comment. Love the “hulking mutant women” descriptor lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 05:39 PM
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My product is worth it honey ;p And men are not wholly logical automatons; they fall into the sunk cost fallacy, want what they can’t have, and then their innate biological thirst multiplies these factors. The easy hoe just makes me look even more desirable after he orgasms and gets bored of the lack of a chase, men like to feel accomplished and like they conquered something. Women have been playing this game forever, and won using these rules. Men have had casual sex available to them, but in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 04:56 PM
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Yes, if that’s your SMV equal
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 05:41 PM
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That’s natural female instincts, normal female standards that have always existed
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 05:39 PM
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Males with higher testosterone and lower neuroticism don’t complain or give up in the face of adversity or low rates of success, they just shrug and keep on. Males prone to MGTOW have genetic predisposition to neuroticism and risk aversion
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:36 PM
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That’s why women should never put out before commitment and just keep milking male thirst
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 02:23 PM
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Advocating one group might have positive side effects for other groups
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 09:28 PM
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You mean a human who wants to have their cake and eat it too? Yeah me and literally everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 09:18 PM
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The desire to bang all women all the time with no commitment is the least romantic thing ever. Which is why men will forever be disqualified from being the romantic sex, a polygamist cannot be romantic
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 02:48 AM
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Well maybe it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 01:30 AM
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Idk why men make up this tit for tat definition of equality when feminism has only ever been a woman's advocacy group. It was about "pure" objective equality when men had more rights than women, but everything else is women's advocacy and empowerment. Do you guys throw fits when the NAACP advocates for black people while ignoring the effects legislation might have on white people?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:43 PM
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It is. And it's antithetical to the development of sexual attraction. If I feel like a man needs my protection or nurturing, I'm not going to feel sexual toward him.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:41 PM
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But taxes pay for things that literally keep people from dying
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:33 PM
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This just blew my mind a little bit. I never thought of it this way Really? It's one of the parts of the male experience I find the most enviable. That and the physical strength. Can you expand on what you think these differences are to you? Platonic love feels like a comfortable, warm, safe, familial attachment and comes with protective and nurturing impulses. Romantic love is more passionate, filled with energy and potential, with no nurturing or protective feelings whatsoever, more so feeling…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:28 PM
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You're misunderstanding my argument. Men have a much wider arousal window I totally understand that. In fact, I'm a bit envious of it! It must be nice to be able to walk out the door and be almost guaranteed to find someone attractive to look at. It must be nice to be able to select for personality first, because you're almost guaranteed to be attracted if she's not old or fat. To me, people I'm attracted to are like an endangered species, very elusive and wondrous to behold. So when I find one …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:22 PM
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> My perspective thus far is it is more related to N for women LOL even if I were a virgin, I would be the most frigid ice queen from reading the thoughts of reddit males and learning what male nature is really like. > There is a knowledge element, but its not as fickle because N=0 women can form long lasting relationships with men who are physically less ideal in my observation. But when they rack up a couple partners they experience a form of lifestyle inflation, which shrinks the pool of pros…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:13 PM
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> I think the second is more likely, since it's still attractive. Possibly the having other options part. But definitely NOT the youth-chasing part. Women get a knee-jerk "eww" response to that, similar to men and sluts I guess? But it just activities the angry mother bear part of a woman's brain (even a young woman) that says "keep the creepy man away from the children (and me)". > Love is a mutually shared illusion IMO How sad. The only way I'll ever feel truly "loved" is to be completely unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 08:02 PM
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I think you're misconstruing benevolence with naivety and idealism. A naive man is a benevolent man, but a naive man is childish and not attractive. A jaded experienced man is attractive, but he's no longer benevolent. Which leads me to a saddening conclusion. Can either sex have positive benevolent feelings toward the other when fully aware of their opposing nature? Can men love women for being hypergamous gene-mongers and can women love men for being youth-chasing polygamists? Or can love only…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:48 PM
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That harm and expense you describe seems indirect and nebulous. A privileged group losing power is not really harmed
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:42 PM
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So it's basically impossible to generate more natural blue pill alphas in this current environment? I suppose maybe we could do something with gene editing and growth hormone to make more tall fit guys. But to make them benevolent toward women and society is harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:11 PM
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I think of morality in terms of harm, who is being harmed by a woman wanting the positives of the female gender role without the negatives? Why do you personally consider it immoral?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:05 PM
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That's very sad. Could we have them with emancipation but fault divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 07:03 PM
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We need to make more of them :( I feel like they used to be less rare
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:53 PM
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> i know that women like to have it both ways so they can choose which ever way is more beneficial in any particular situation. and that IS immoral How is that immoral? Sounds smart to me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:42 PM
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Handsome men actually LIKE women and like when women have freedom and rights, because women use that freedom to choose them. It's ugly and desperate men that hate feminism and want to control women's sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:34 PM
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> Female apes can't just select their mates as they wish, you know Except, they do. Female chimps and gorillas will either leave the troop lead by a male they don't want to mate with, or mate secretly with other less dominant males in the tribe. It's not uncommon at all for females to take their babies and switch troops, in fact this is an important adaptation to prevent inbreeding. > How, where and why would do you want to draw a line and say that such type of soldiers/farmers/engineers shouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:29 PM
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> Females gave birth to men, females nurtured men. If it is patriarchy that's at fault then also it's women's fault Nope. Men would take male children away from their mothers at a young age to begin patriarchal indoctrination. It was around age 7 in societies like Sparta. > If patriarchy exist for ages and it exists now then natural selection have selected patriarchy No, that's artificial selection. Patriarchy has only existed for a fraction of human evolution, for most of our evolutionary histo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:52 PM
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You don't believe women were kept as sexual chattel under thousands of years of patriarchy? I'm interested in making things better for women while keeping relations between the genders as harmonious as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:41 PM
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Entirely serious. But go on and yuck it up over our terrible history of female oppression and dysgenic breeding. Keeping people with defective genes alive and comfortable is VERY different from forcing women to marry and reproduce with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:25 PM
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No. Patriarchy created competition between genders when the male gender sought to control and limit the female sexual imperative. Men decided that instead of competing with each other for mates (as nature intended) they would work together to cheat natural selection so every male with bad genes got to reproduce. And our genders have been at war since and our gene pool has suffered.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:13 PM
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Incorrect. Sexually successful men have no distaste for sluts. Handsome men are more likely to be sex positive feminists than ugly men. Sluts aren't supposed to be shamed, since everyone wishes they could be a slut. Some people just suffer from sour grapes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 06:10 PM
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Thank you lol finally
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 04:09 AM
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It’s literally none of my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 03:49 AM
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If I’m sharing him with another hot man who treats us both to expensive vacations and dinners regularly. And I am involved in any and all sexual activities.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 08:44 PM
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Regardless, female gene quality matters less than male gene quality. I’d rather deal with that reality when and if it comes to fruition. I’m of the opinion that terrorists should never be negotiated with. If you give in to one demand because they’re threatening to burn everything down, they’ll keep using that tactic to get whatever they want. It’s not women’s job to keep men as a whole “content”, that’s up to each individual man to make himself happy with his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 05:18 PM
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Because women are raised to act tactfully in social situations. Sometimes tact involves lying to avoid having to deal with other people's hurt feelings. Not to mention, men with hurt feelings often take those hurt feelings out on women. Women don't want to be the messenger who gets killed for telling the truth, better to live and let that uggo figure out his own SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 11:40 PM
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> But if you're asking for a man in the top 5%, you need to be a woman in the top 5% to attract and keep a man like that True most of the time, but not nearly 100% of the time. Men are more prone to fetishes and diverse sexual tastes, so one hot guy's top percentage girl might not be another hot guy's. Plus thanks to a global SMP, the top 30% of men (which sounds like a scarce number, right?) actually consists of millions upon millions of english speaking men. And there's a good chance one of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 11:37 PM
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I don't they lie and mislead, I think some men are just naive and prone to extreme black and white thinking and systemizing. When a woman says "I want a guy who's funny" every other socially well adapted person in the room understands there's an unspoken caveat of "I want a guy (I'm attracted to) who's funny". Just like when a guy says he likes red heads, that doesn't mean he likes old ladies with red hair or obese women with red hair, it means he likes hot women with red hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 11:32 PM
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I'd say about 30% of men are good looking. Still a minority, but not tiny. > They aren't going to pursue one with a woman who is a 5 who thinks she deserves an 8 because of all the validation she gets online So? Women would rather play the lottery to potentially win a man worth being with rather than take the certainty of settling for an unattractive man they'd end up resenting. Why should people be in relationships with partners they're not sexually aroused by?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 11:26 PM
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> If that constitutes genetic inferiority then most women by extension are genetically inferior too. So it cuts both ways Nope. Men and women are different. All women capable of reproduction have inherent value, but that's not true for men. > And two, if the majority of men aren't satisfied with how things are then they'll turn over the apple cart. You can't really follow your biological imperative to the fullest when society is in flames and you're afraid for your life Better to die free than l…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 11:23 PM
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Looks come first, then they want the good looking guy to read their profile and commit to a relationship. Women are people, people want attractive partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:42 AM
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I’ve been approached at parties and bars and gone on dates resulting from that, never gone on dates with social weirdos who ask me anywhere else. I had one guy interrupt me at a train station bench where I was waiting for a friend to arrive, I had earbuds in and my nose deep in a book. This scrawny looking guy flags me down with waving arms, his face all worried. I’m concerned, thinking something’s wrong. Turns out he just desperately needed to ask me what book I was reading, when the cover was …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:03 AM
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A 5 or 6 can still get commitment from a 7, which is what nature intended
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:43 AM
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Why is this a bad thing, again?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:39 AM
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Understanding that you’re her best and the leap isn’t going to be worth the risk ensures you CAN let your guard down, until something happens to change the situation. I’d rather have that kind of certainty to my partner’s feelings. With a man, it doesn’t matter if you’re his best option or if he can’t monkeyebranch, he’ll still cheat with the first woman to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:36 AM
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Why should women sacrifice their biological imperative just to keep genetically inferior men from throwing violent tantrums?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 03:33 AM
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The real reason
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:49 PM
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No. Women don’t get neurotically retroactively jealous like omega men do. If he’s high value and committed to me now, then I won. Who cares if he liked someone more in the past?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:44 PM
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No, we’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 10:09 PM
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As a feminist, I just want the opportunity for equal representation of women at the top, without unfair doubt and sabotage when a woman does successfully make it. I’d still expect most of the top to be men, but if there are absolutely zero women on top? Something’s not right. In a population of millions of people, there are bound to be enough female outliers to make up some of the top positions. 8 to 1 seems very unfair, especially in positions of political representation. It’s not fair to tax h…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 02:15 AM
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I think a lot of western society has been poisoned by excessively Christian ideas like “the meek shall inherit the earth” and “turn the other cheek”. It makes for a nice civil, easily controlled society, but not for effective individuals, especially masculine individuals. When it comes down to it, being weak and passive is the easy thing, and humans love taking the path of least resistance.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 12:08 AM
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I disagree with your last statement, although I do agree men are over represented in the tail ends of spectrums of achievement, the high highs and the low lows. I think women are more stable as a group, in the median. For better or worse. By the numbers, men are just as superior to women as they are inferior to women, since women tend to make up the middle of the spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 11:06 PM
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If you choose to be bitter nothing’s gonna help you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:42 PM
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Being short will mean you'll have to either lower your standards to women who are equally desired (or not desired) by men, compensate with status, or both. It;s definitely still not a lost cause, hypergamy is relative. Find your niche and climb the hierarchy, then you'll be some girl's top 20%. Remember, even competitive eaters have groupies. Women just want a winner, win in some aspect of life and show off that status.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:16 PM
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Do you have the four traits I listed? If so, then just work on confidence and masculine machismo without being over the top and cringey. Then go for women who are actually visibly attracted to you, commit to one, and she'll treat you like a king.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:07 PM
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> Being alone or unicorn hunting is better Also, I'd say it's top 35%, not 20% Just be tall, have hair, and a job, and be looking for ltr. Boom, instant top percentage, instant "good man"
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 10:04 PM
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Aw that's sweet. Labs are the bomb. Even a labrador with the right inclination could defend its loved ones, but a tiny ass lap dog just ain't gonna cut it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:46 PM
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Ok, now you're revising your statement to "superior in some ways", not "superior in all ways". That's completely different. Male chauvinism is the belief that men are superior to women in a universal all encompassing sense, and in all ways that matter. Note: "women are good at sex and babies lol" is a cop out. But to say "men are superior in some important ways and women are superior in other important ways, but both sexes should be equal in society and under the law" is not male chauvinism or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:41 PM
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This. A kind man who is also capable of violence (in defense of her and her children) is the ideal. If you’re looking for a guard dog, a chihuahua will just never do, even if it’s the best trained chihuahua in the world. You’d still prefer the poorly trained German Shepherd that might bite the hand that feeds, because at lease it’d be capable of protecting you. A harmless kind man is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:34 PM
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I love this post. Great job, OP. If you’ve pissed off the local incels and sad boiz, you know you’ve done a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:32 PM
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How are they “arbitrary” if they are on/off switches for her attraction? Would you consider an obese woman with facial burns and a penis a “good match” just because she’s a moral person?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:41 PM
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So you acknowledge that an average woman WILL have trouble finding a good man by HER definition (which is far more important than your moralistic definition). Good morals do not make a “good man” for romantic partnership. They make a good man for a platonic interaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:39 PM
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Number 4 is “wants to commit to her”. Without that, he’s not a “good man”, he’s a fuck boi.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:38 PM
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A “good man” is an attractive man who wants to commit. Yes. The rest of the options might look “decent” to you, but to women they’re non options. Go cry about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:34 PM
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Most of the advice in this thread is so horrible. “Find an omega man with no options and build him up like his mommy should have so he will appreciate you for being so far out of his league that his pedestalization will look like love to the untrained eye”. So gross that THIS is the only way to guarantee male love. Men only love women based on how hot they are and how many hotter options the individual man has. What’s even the point? No woman should have to compromise their attraction threshold …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:28 PM
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I see you’re just going to keep repeating your false statement instead of arguing in good faith. That’s unfortunate. Do you see a difference between male supremacy and white supremacy? What do you believe is the inevitable result when one group of people believes itself universally superior to another group?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 04:16 PM
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Adult women are not children, adult women are fully grown human beings, equal in maturity and thought and autonomy and self determination to adult men. If I believe cows are inferior to humans, that doesn’t mean I hate cows, but I don’t think you or anyone else would appreciate being treated the way people treat livestock. In fact, that’s exactly what slavery was.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 08:43 PM
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I want to be understood and loved and cherished for the person I actually am, which is certainly not all light and purity. I don’t want to be loved for what the other person is projecting onto me, which is often what happens when men pedastalize their partner. When one inevitably falls off the pedestal it’s a painful landing. “Respect” doesn’t matter as much to me, if I’m truly cherished for who I am (not my appearance, sexual availability, or agreeableness) and seen as irreplaceable.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 06:47 PM
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I have probably four close male friends and three close female friends. I still am platonically close with a ex who I talk to online, also. My friend group typically hangs out together all at once, most of the time, so it’s a mix gendered group.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 06:40 PM
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That’s just like your opinion, man
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:31 PM
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I’m honestly glad reality hasn’t taunt you the same hard lessons about men, that means maybe there’s some hope. Or maybe you’re just a glass half full type who gives humanity too much benefit of the doubt? Either way, I’m just trying to add my input to the conversation. I found these observations about male nature the most horrific to swallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:29 PM
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To believe women are inferior to men is misogyny, straight up. Just like homophobia isn’t literally fear of the gay boogeyman, misogyny doesn’t always mean cold blooded hatred of women. Male chauvinism is still the main motivator for hateful acts against women, and basically the entire patriarchal system itself. It falls perfectly under the umbrella of misogyny. Male chauvinists must go, just like white supremacests of the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:27 PM
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I use birth control so I hopefully will never have to take responsibility for an unwanted fetus. I’m honestly not sure which path I’d choose if worse came to worse (I’m pro choice but have very strong maternal instincts) Not all psychological defense/coping mechanisms are bad or should be avoided, sometimes they’re healthy :)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 05:16 AM
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An angular jaw and a square jaw are two different things. But yeah no woman like a man with a skull structure like a baby lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 05:13 AM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 05:09 AM
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Socially accepted cheating that women are forced to comply with and pretend to be ok with. But it’s not going anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 05:05 AM
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The appendix is a vestigial organ we are all born with. It can burst without any fault or incorrect action on the part of the person who possesses the organ. Well at least you’re consistent. Hope you never need to see a surgeon! Have a good one. I personally see dealing with a problem so tha the problem no longer exists as taking responsibility, but you do you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:55 AM
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Hell yes it fucking is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:48 AM
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Men are polygamous and only as loyal as their options, and they fetishize youth to an uncomfortable degree. The only things they value women for are sexual availability and agreeableness (doormat behavior). You have to bet on wife goggles, the law, and social shame to keep your man and keep him loyal when you age. Men do not love, they own and possess and covet and lust after. Men will never respect you like you respect them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 04:22 AM
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You don’t like her. Do her a favor and tell her the truth. When a man actually likes a woman, he gets oneitis and wants to lock her down
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 03:22 AM
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If you’re paying for a service with your own money, it’s just as responsible as doing it yourself. If you hold yourself to the same standards, then you would have to remove your own appendix, should it ever burst. By your logic, if you pay a surgeon to do it for you, that’s just trying to abandon your responsibilities. You grew that faulty exploding appendix, so it’s your responsibility to cut it out yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 02:49 AM
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Yes, of course. You’re doing something about the mess. Plenty of responsible people hire house cleaners. I don’t see a difference in doing it directly yourself or paying someone to do it, either way you’re taking initiative to take care of a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 12:49 AM
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What? Most women pay for their own abortions and plan b pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:33 PM
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Yep. Even when it’s THEIR kids sucking on their wife’s titty and getting all her attention they get jealous
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:32 PM
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I agree! All cheaters should end up on the streets with no money from their marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:29 PM
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Having to get an abortion is itself consequence, getting an abortion is “taking responsibility”. An abortion is not a walk in the park, it’s a medical procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:22 PM
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Yep. This stuff is gender neutral. One of the clients at my work is a wealthy middle aged career woman who pays alimony to her husband, and he’s the one who initiated the divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 09:17 PM
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His intelligence was very high quality, he was an outlier mutant in that respect. And I think I saw pictures of him as a young man, and he seemed pretty good looking. So, yeah in my opinion he probably had good genes. For all the good it did him, since he didn’t reproduce. I don’t think either selection style is superior, but I think humanity’s ability to utilize both is how we’re so successful in spreading all over the globe. K selection is superior in some contexts and environments, and R sele…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 11:07 PM
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Male sexuality’s purpose is to be an experiment in genetics. The Y chromosome, being a mutated X, carries more potential for drastic genetic mutations, good or bad. A male with high gene quality and adaptive traits can spread his genes very quickly with many mates, flooding the gene pool with good qualities and making rapid adaptation in the population possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:49 PM
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I support them competing, but competing to the death is overkill (no pun intended). Most animal fights over mates end without direct killing. The most dangerous fights are between evenly matched individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 09:18 PM
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I wouldn’t be genuinely aroused by them, or I would be already. I would continue to do what I do, but lie and virtue signal that “of course ugly short Indian men are attractive, the guy I just HAPPEN to be dating is tall and good looking” it wouldn’t change people’s behaviors, just how brazen and open they are about those behaviors. Why not go all the way and say preferring attractive symmetrical faces is like saying “I think attractive people are superior to unattractive people”. It’s a slipper…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 06:19 PM
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The only way I’d “win” if your bizarre moralizing of attraction went main stream is if other women leave the tall handsome guys alone so I have less competition. I could lie and virtue signal all day and be like “oh I didn’t even NOTICE his height and face, I chose him for his sense of humor. Liking height and handsomeness is bad, other ladies. Don’t be bad and shallow. Looks don’t matter”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 06:09 PM
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How do you feel about conversion therapy? Would you be willing to undergo it or have a loved one undergo it? Attraction is amoral, there is nothing immoral about wanting to fuck one person but not another. No one is entitled to sex or romantic relationships. You know for a fact that it’s gendered, men don’t care how tall their partners are. Is discriminating based on weight equally immoral? Why is discriminating based on facial symmetry a-ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:57 PM
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I agree all women should learn self defense and conceal carry. But, I think this would be more effective when paired with cultural/social change. Rape is a successful reproductive strategy for an individual organism, but it sets the gene pool back. This is why animals with rape as the primary mode of reproduction have other ways to select for gene quality, like how female ducks have maze vaginas they can open and close at will to control which sperm fertilizes her eggs. Attractive males with opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:51 PM
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No. You don’t get to have it both ways. Either ALL physical preferences are evil discrimination (including YOURS), or we’re all free to be attracted to the people our biology draws us to. You don’t get to cherry pick and take away women’s sexual autonomy while maintaining men’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:45 PM
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Regardless, an organism that cannot successfully attract a mate is a dead end and has bad genes, by definition. Why is it “even more true for women”? Because that’s very convenient for you and for men who lack objectively attractive traits? “My attraction triggers are set in stone, but hot women should lower their standards!”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:43 PM
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I don’t believe you’re actually six foot. For someone to be so invested in the idea that all sexual attraction triggers are cultural, they must have a losing horse in the race. If you were winning the race, you wouldn’t be complaining about the rules. Nope, selecting for facial symmetry is just as disrimatory and “bigoted” as selecting for height. I bet you’re just excusing that one because it’s the physical trait that matters most to you. Men usually care about facial symmetry, fat deposits, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:39 PM
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Rape is dysgenic and bypasses sexual selection. It is not selected for. Certain criminal behaviors or traits that correlate with criminal behaviors might be selected for. Ambition, confidence, risk taking, capability for violence. An unattractive organism has difficulty finding a mate and reproducing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 05:37 PM
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Patriarchy forces women to reproduce with men who would have otherwise been sexually selected against. Unattractive genes are bad genes. Read my other comment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:28 PM
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Strong healthy immune systems, strong healthy bodies, and high levels of testosterone. Good indicators of these genes are: facial symmetry, thick hair, clear skin, tall height, deep voice, visible musculature and strong frame. And since personality traits are largely heritable, a man with good personality genes would be: ambitious, confident, positive, emotionally in control, neurotypical, socially adept, competitive, creative, and good at problem solving. Genes that are “good” are genes which a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:03 PM
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I don't consider the number of people I've slept with as part of my identity in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 11:01 PM
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Bad and good are subjective. In what way would suffering unjust consequences benefit ME?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:55 PM
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People don’t find out. And that’s stupid advice if you don’t own a time machine. And since most people want to enjoy sex without worrying “what will my future bf think?!”. Lying works, it always has.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:29 PM
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I once believed the fairy tale that most men were fatherly gentlemen who would look out for others in a warm paternal way and make decisions based on stoicism and wisdom for the good of all. My masculine archetypes were teachers or policemen or firemen. I believed men were inherently heroic and brave and self sacrificing, that they had honor and an instinct to protect the weak. I believed these men were the majority and would protect me from the minority of bad men. I thought I would be able to …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 10:05 PM
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These “legitimately non slut” women are a figment of men’s imaginations that men MUST believe in to maintain their Madonna whore fantasy. But all women are sluts and potential sluts. But sluts are NOT bad women or bad mothers or bad partners. Sluts and wannabe sluts are everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:35 PM
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And this is why women should ALWAYS lie about their n count and make men work for sex. Men don’t value honesty, they will punish you for it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:28 PM
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Utility and “pathology” are aspects of gene quality. Patriarchy is dysgenic and holds humanity back
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:28 PM
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Men often do change their minds about that, because it’s rooted in cultural upbringing. But women’s attraction to attractive men is innate and biological.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:26 PM
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You still haven’t given a reason for WHY it should be shamed. You’ve only given reason for why YOU personally don’t like women’s sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 09:21 PM
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A woman cannot feel romantic love and lust for a man she has to nurture. Mommy love is asexual love for the weak and downtrodden, sexual love is rooted in admiration and awe of strength and virility. To expect a woman to nurture her man like his mother while still feeling sexual attraction to him is unfair and asking for something wholly unnatural.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:54 PM
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Truth! Keep living your best life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 08:44 PM
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What’s beneficial to women often coincides with what’s beneficial to society
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 08:53 PM
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Violence can be used in a toxic way or a pro social way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:23 PM
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How is purity and chasteness feminine? Those are patriarchal ideals forced upon women to control their sexuality, not natural feminine behaviors. Natural female sexuality is not chaste, but it is very selective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:05 PM
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Those guys are physically hot, but they definitely look gay and douchey. Where’s the body hair? The heterosexual masculinity? The edge? The maturity? They come across as vain boys trying to impress each other. Women can think a man’s physique is hot while also thinking the man himself is icky and gay. Put those muscles on a real man with life experience outside of the frat house, then we’ll talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:59 PM
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Men’s bodies delegate more calories into muscle production than fat production, thanks to hormones. Agreed on the McMuffin lol. Smaller bodies just need less fuel, basic thermodynamics. But that still doesn’t change how hormones affect the body. Estrogen makes it easier for women’s bodies to pack on excess fat and testosterone makes it easier for men’s bodies to build muscle. Women’s entire adult physiology revolves around keeping potential babies alive. And having fat stores is key to that. Als…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:56 AM
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Most fair comment in this whole discussion. People are acting like it’s either/or
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:11 AM
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Women’s bodies ARE better at holding onto fat. Our ancestors often lived in periods of feast or famine. We know that in times of starvation women’s reproductive systems shut down and their oestrus cycle ceases. So, in order for the species to continue existing through the famine periods, women’s bodies adapted to be more efficient with calories and more effecient at storing fat, the estrogen hormone itself encourages appetite and fat storage (especially during pregnancy). The sex that carries fe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 04:04 AM
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Yep. AMALT. Always make him work for it, you’ll both be happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/19 07:20 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately experience and worldliness don't matter to men like they do to women. Men don't care about who women actually are or how they've grown as people, or what they've experienced, or the stories they could tell - they only value them for their fertility and sexual availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 11:23 PM
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Barf
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 10:09 PM
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Why should a self respecting woman settle for him, either?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:45 PM
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Agreed 100% People give self serving advice without thinking about what the other person’s goals are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:25 PM
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The average man is as unattractive to women as the obese missing teeth women would be to you. They barely even count as options. Average men WOULD have bottom tier girls chasing them if they advertised their willingness to commit and provision. Just like fat girls have to advertise their willingness to put out if they want male attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:24 PM
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They’re better at being violent and destructive, better at being genetically uneccesary cannon fodder and sacrificing themselves for the species, more prone to systematic thinking, better with spatial relations and math and machines, they make better fighters and grunt workers and athletes, they’re better at being behavioral and genetic outliers (especially sexually), they’re better at being competitive and making competitions and hierarchies appear out of thin air, they’re more likely to take r…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 09:17 PM
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No, it means women want their partner to be both hot and loyal. Sounds a lot like what men want, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 08:52 PM
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Their advice is good only if you want to be a plate or pump and dumped. Men don’t know how to give actionable advice to women about how to get more than sex, they don’t know to make a relationship happen with attractive men who have options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:39 PM
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You’re assuming you would be attracted to the female orbiters. Imagine they’re all obese with missing teeth, and all the hot girls are crazy. Still on your high horse?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/19 06:16 PM
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Exactly. Men made this part up, not feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:08 PM
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I’m already familiar with that piece of history, both queens were really interesting characters. It’s a shame they were such bitter rivals, considering they were cousins and one of the few solo female rulers of the time. I don’t think women are less selfish, quite the contrary, but they are more nurturing and less violent overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 06:03 PM
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Dating a younger guy creates a weird dynamic I find to be a turn off. I unconsciously become dominant and maternal toward people younger than I am, and that’s the exact opposite of the relationship dynamic I want. It would feel like i’m dating my nephew or something. I find maturity to be a turn on, since it also implies experience and capability. I want to date a man who is better than I am, I want him to have his life together more than I do, be smarter and wiser and more confident. I want to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/19 05:14 PM
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Truth
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:30 PM
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I’d want him to intimidate the harasser and tell him to fuck off away from HIS lady. I wouldn’t want him throwing the first punch, but I would want him to be capable of handling a fight if it came to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/19 09:27 PM
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Good prostitutes are good actresses, men pay them to convincingly pretend they’re attractive and good in bed. Hell the existence of the “girlfriend experience” is enough proof of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:40 PM
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Indirectly, maybe. Men directly cause those things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 07:02 PM
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The difference beteeen women’s natural instincts and men’s, is that women’s instincts are generally good for the species. Men’s natural instincts lead to war and slavery and destruction, women’s natural instincts lead to healthy genetically fit babies and a society that values feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 04:34 AM
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Thank you. That makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/19 04:31 AM
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I wish you would answer my question. What is your whole online crusade against women even ABOUT?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:54 PM
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WHAT is it about, then? If not hate? Why do you deny you have extremely negative feelings about women? No one particular person, just reading misogynist’s honest opinions on the internet. I used to think women haters were simple and their defeat would be inevitable with the march of time, but now it’s obvious that as long as women exist men will hate them. That’s what hurts me, honestly. That my great granddaughters will still be hearing this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:53 PM
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I’m not trying to refute it. I’m just rephrasing what you said more concisely. Don’t feel sorry for me man, I don’t hate half the population. Why don’t you just own it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:44 PM
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“I used to hate women for THIS but now I hate women for THIS” wow, that’s a lot of personal growth. You must be real proud
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:40 PM
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So it sounds like fixing the economy is important to keeping low value men happy and dutiful. At least we can all agree on this, since we all benefit when the American dream is possible. Women DO select men based on genetic fitness, with a little bit of societal influence affecting their active romantic choices. We’re still fighting each other with weapons, alpha traits are still the most useful to the survival of a bloodline. Natural selection doesn’t “care” about cancer or diseases that affect…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:34 PM
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Whoever’s argument devolves to nothing but lol first is without a doubt the loser. Sorry not sorry Never said it was responsible, but it is necessary for you and I to exist. If women were fully rational with their wombs, they would never get pregnant at all. There’s a very very good chance that many of our female ancestors continued our lineage through irresponsible means. And we should be grateful for that instead of judgemental.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:49 PM
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Low value genetically is not the same as low value in societal usefulness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:45 PM
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Great rebuttal, Lewis. You lose :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:43 PM
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What do you think could be a good western non religious alternative to monasteries, then? Low value men have always existed and been shipped off somewhere out of the way. Of course it’s easier, that’s part of nature’s plan. Men are meant to spray and pray their gametes at every womb with legs, women are meant to search far and wide for the right genes for their offspring, and not settle until they find it. Well of course they cry, they’re still humans with hearts capable of being broken. In fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:40 PM
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You’re taking outliers as the rule and ignoring the majority of women who are doing a GREAT job at their traditional role, as they always have and always will. It sounds like you have a negative bias against women if you think ALL women are shitty at their jobs. Men commit more violence than women, you can thank testosterone for that. If men had the same access to children that women do, they’d be killing twice the babies. Most doctors are men because we live in a patriarchal society, just look …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:35 PM
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I don’t think all priests and monks throughout history were mentally unstable, sounds like you have a low opinion of men. Yeah yeah men care more about fertility than genes, that doesn’t make them any less shallow than women. Women care about genetic quality and who the man actually IS at the basic biological level. Men just want a working womb with legs. It’s a male fantasy that any woman would be ok with sharing her mate. It’s just untrue. Harems are inherently full of drama and strife and res…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:26 PM
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How are women shirking them? Women make up the majority of all nurturing careers: the majority of teachers and healers. Women are the ones caring for the weak in our society: the young, the old, the sick, the animals. Women also make up the majority of therapists, counselors and social workers, clearly still helping to mediate and heal social tears in society. Mothers are still bringing life into the world, even the single mothers the manosphere hates so much. They are the definition of independ…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:13 PM
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They can, just as men can nurture. However, no one tells men they don’t deserve equality if they don’t shoulder women’s burdens. You’re basically saying “be men and take all the shitty (biological) aspects of being male (which is impossible) or go back to the kitchen” How about you stop telling women what to do. Feminism is about freedom to be who you are and do what you want. Some of the basic western liberal ideas our society was founded on.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 09:02 PM
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Women have their own responsibilities and burdens. Equality does not mean men need to shoulder female burdens or women need to shoulder men’s. Women do not need to protect and provide and men do not need to birth and nurture and peace-keep and be a societal moral/spiritual guide. Once again, equal does not mean identical. Men will alway be disposable, women will always be the life givers. This is biology and no political movement will change it. Men have always been able to live where they want,…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:57 PM
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Our language is very biased toward the masculine, we think of strong as physically strong and independent as separate from others. This is what those words look like when practiced by someone masculine, but feminine strength and independence look slightly different. Feminine strength is resilience and enduring and rooted in the metaphysical, not the physical. Feminine independence does not look like going off into the untamed wilderness and living alone, it looks like creating life from the best…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:51 PM
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I’d rather be a living liar than an honest dead woman. Stop using phrases you don’t believe in in bad faith. Women are strong and independent in feminine ways, not masculine ways. Trying to be strong exactly like a man without the muscle to back it up would be foolish. Take away a man’s physical strength and he’d resort to all the same manipulation and lies that women do. If you think men never turn violent after being rejected, you need to do some research. Women are killed all the time for tur…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:43 PM
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You will die without food, you will not die without sex. I don’t think lying to get sex is rape, but I do think it’s close to it and sexually fraudulent. Immoral but not illegal. Men know women are wearing these things. If men truly believe women’s breasts are naturally spherical, gravity defying pseudo buttcheeks and their faces are naturally poreless and flawless, THEY need to see a shrink because their grip on reality is loose. Women would rather be alone than be with a beta or share an alpha…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:36 PM
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Why should it be the first priority? Men don’t prioritize it in attraction, either. Who cares what women claim? People claim things that make them look good to other people. Women in general have every reason to protect themselves from sexually scorned men who may very well turn violent when they realize their genes are shit and nothing makes up for that. It’s better for society and women’s safety if unattractive men believe they can overcome their genetic inferiority through pro social behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:29 PM
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No, but they do lose something very valuable: time on their fertility clock and an opportunity to find a long term mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:26 PM
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They care, but it’s not the first priority. A good looking man who’s kind to her and to the people she cares about is the ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 08:21 PM
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Then men should choose dry spell. If the choice is be poor or steal from people who worked hard for what they have, the choice would be obvious to anyone with moral decency.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:05 PM
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A “good man” from a woman’s perspective is a hot guy who wants commitment from her. Not “good” morally.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 04:01 PM
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It’s literally true. AMALT
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/19 10:06 PM
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Benevolent sexism doesn’t do much harm, so I would have a hard time calling it toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 12:47 AM
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Males don’t care about base genetic quality, they care about current fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 08:15 PM
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I disagree that it’s toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 07:54 PM
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Why would anyone want commitment from someone they’re not attracted to? Only 20% of women can easily get commitment from hot men, the rest of women have to work for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:43 PM
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Hi, weirdo checking in
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:39 PM
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Masculinity and toxic masculinity are two differerent things. Women are attracted to masculinity and will put up with toxic aspects of masculinity for access to the positive aspects /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 06:34 PM
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Yeah, very true
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 05:17 AM
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attractive male feminists exist
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/18 02:29 AM
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How does selecting for healthy immune systems, strong muscles, tall frames, high testosterone levels and implacable ambition harm the human genome in the short term or long term? If hypergamy does not benefit you, you have a vested interest in demonizing it, assigning a low value to it, and especially a vested interest in forcing its elimination altogether. This is every unattractive man’s true issue with hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 06:45 PM
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All women store ammunition, good luck boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:41 PM
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relationship sex is by definition not casual sex. I hope these men tell their “support structure” that they don’t intend to be with them long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:39 PM
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You’re wrong. Hypergamy selects for gene quality, attractive phenotypes indicate health and high levels of testosterone. “Morality” and self control and book smarts are not high quality traits, just because you think they should be. Nature is reality, “society” and civilization are brief illusions. A man who is too “moral” or too neurotic to make quick life or death decisions and take appropriate violent actions will not survive in our natural environment. Women are not evil, they are survivors …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:28 PM
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So it’s not all fun for women, they still don’t get happiness. The only true happiness comes from a lifelong monogamous relationship with a man of higher genetic quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:22 PM
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Hypergamy is not a cancer, women’s instincts and biology are not evil. Hypergamy makes the gene pool better, hypergamy is beneficial to the species and women should be proud to be agents of nature. Men have been trying to make women feel ashamed of what they are for tens of thousands of years, because men fear the power of natural selection women wield over them. They fear the realization that their genes are meant to be filtered and culled out. Women need to embrace their own natural power and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/18 05:18 PM
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Sure. I’d probably be put off by the whole “he doesn’t trust me” thing, but if it means I get married then I’ll sign it (and use it as ammunition for fights in the future).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:52 PM
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Most people get into relationships with the end goal being marriage down the line. Nice guys get into friendships and expect relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 11:30 PM
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Small is a dealbreaker, but I’m not a size queen. I’m very happy with average sized dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 06:41 PM
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The one who enjoyed their life, their youth, and their body. So not the spinster virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:54 PM
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Masculine, capable of protecting and providing. Anything more specific than that, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:47 PM
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If I’m attracted to a man he’s automatically in my “top 20%”. It’s a pass/fail system, he’s either hot or he’s not. Now, the men I find attractive are also probably desired by other women, so they might in all likelihood be “top percentage”. I like tall masculine men with thick dark hair, that’s a pretty popular set of traits with women. But I don’t really care if there are objectively hotter men, because he’s already mine and locked down, and it’s too risky to go for a new guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/18 05:42 PM
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why are you trying to convince me fo date conservatives? Why can’t they just date themselves? Lol are they that unattractive that they don’t want to date within their peer group?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 08:15 PM
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I have friends and family who vote differently, but yeah I want my life partner to have similar ideals. No I mean we’d likely have disagreements over whether we get married in a religious setting or have a secular wedding, whether we circumcise our children, whether we bring our children to church, how we educate our children, how many children we want to have. So many potential points of contention
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:59 PM
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With liberal men I feel like we’re already on the same team and the same page so we can go from there. I feel the opposite for socially conservative men, the relationship vibe is inherently oppositional. Throw in differences in opinion regarding marriage and raising kids and it’s not looking good. Whenever we’d inevitably get into fights, I’d probably use our differences as fuel on the anger fire and it’d brew resentment that otherwise wouldn’t be there. Not to mention every election year would …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:24 PM
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I would definitely suspect it, unless he’s rich
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:16 PM
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The desire for true commitment is wired into women’s genetic codes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 07:12 PM
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They wouldn’t be a good match for me, personally. Our values wouldn’t align. They might be fine boyfriends for women with more conservative beliefs.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 06:54 PM
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No. I won’t be a single mom or forever girlfriend. I want kids, and they’re going to be raised in a household where mom and dad are married.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 12:58 AM
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What? When did I ever say they were bad people? Just not people I want to be with romantically
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 12:53 AM
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I’ve eliminated conservative, patriarchal men. I’m sure there are some liberal feminist Muslim men out there..maybe. Either way, religious and political beliefs are things people tend to care about when evaluating partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/18 12:53 AM
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How does anything that I said have anything to do with Islam? All Abrahamic religions are conservative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:02 PM
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It’s the political slant that seems to make the most logical sense. Live and let live, but don’t spend too much money while doing it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 11:01 PM
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I’m not condemning them as bad people or anything, I just don’t want to date or have sex with them. I’m judging them as ew for romance, but I’d still be fine with being friends with people who buy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 10:21 PM
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I’ve dated fiscally conservative men before, but they are culturally liberal and think trump is a douchebag. I’m glad you’ve changed and developed into a better person than you were before. Happy holidays to you and your gf!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 10:11 PM
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Social conservatism: fundamentalism, sex negativity, xenophobia, racism, homophobia, misogyny and anti feminism. Fiscal conservatism is a-ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 10:08 PM
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I assume he’ll be having sex with his other less serious options while we’re in the getting to know each other phase. Plus blow jobs and hand jobs are of course still on the table (I need to make sure he’s packing something I can work with).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 10:06 PM
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If a woman did buy sex, I’d judge her the same way I’d judge a man buying sex. I don’t judge men for selling sex and I don’t judge a woman for selling sex. I don’t condemn prostitution, in fact I support full legalization and regulation. I just wouldn’t date or have sex with someone who has purchased sex. I’d have no problem dating a man who was an ex prostitute or who was in porn, but paying for sex is a huge turn off for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 06:03 PM
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No one’s looking for sympathy on PPD, or at least I’d hope not lol. I was just trying to describe the feeling of sexual violation that comes from realizing the person you let inside you is a disgusting human being. Maybe men don’t feel like this, because men have no problem fucking women they dislike or don’t respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 06:01 PM
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Too bad I think vaginas and boobs are gross. Otherwise I probably would have tried that already :p
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 05:35 PM
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Ok, thanks for the advice. I’ll hold off on sex until I know for sure the guy isn’t a MAGAloser
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 05:15 PM
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I’m not comparing my experience with an actual rape victim’s, that would be ridiculous. It’s just the only applicable word I could come up with that describes the feelings most accurately, perhaps violated would be better. Also, don’t pretend you actually care about rape victims. Concern troll elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 05:11 PM
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buying and selling are two different activities, so no hypocrisy. I judge men and women equally for buying and I judge neither of them for selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:32 PM
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But it DOES matter. You don’t get to decide for women what matters and what doesn’t. Giving my body to a man who has disgusting views is disgusting and feels rapey affer the fact. On a biological level it feels like I’m rewarding and propagating the enemy. Also, not booking up with anyone, I’m looking for LTR. So basically the game plan is just don’t have sex until the guy is committed and open with his true self?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:30 PM
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Your first two paragraphs are right on the money. I wish conservatives would just weed themselves out of the dating pool or date each other. But young women are mostly liberal, and men want to fuck hot women. What’s a good way for a young woman to suss our a man’s true political and social opinions?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 04:05 PM
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Masculinity and attractiveness is the bare minimum. On top of that, women want men that are NICE TO THEM.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:45 PM
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No virgins, no Johns, and no STDs. Other than that, I don’t care what a guy did with his dick before he met me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:30 PM
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Or maybe men are just possessive and dangerous and showing empathy for male strangers wasn’t a smart decision for our female ancestors?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:24 PM
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Nope, I judge for purchasing but not for selling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/18 03:20 PM
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Nope. I would equally judge a woman for purchasing sex, but selling is ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:37 PM
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Not saying we should do away with anything, but women will always have a knee jerk deeply primal aversion to men who cheat sexual selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:36 PM
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How is that bizarre, you’re describing the majority of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:35 PM
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It’s not a misconception if it applies to most Johns. Outliers do not make a rule
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:33 PM
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Oh really? It’s literally impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:33 PM
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I don’t want unattractive creepy men to die in a hole, I just want them to keep their gross sexualities and dead-end DNA to themselves. Women treat ugly men just fine (even kindly and nurturing) when those men stay non sexual in their interactions. Yes, we do want you to remove yourself from the gene pool quietly. But that doesn’t mean you need to be miserable or dead, you’re still a human being worthy of life, just not of reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 09:28 PM
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Dracula. He is suave and cool with and intelligence, status, and an immortal life’s worth of experience. He’s also much more romantic. Rambo is a male power fantasy, not a female sexual fantasy. He seems old and overly muscular and doltish.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 04:04 PM
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Because a guy can’t possibly be tall and masculine and also a feminist /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:47 PM
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That’s why I’m purple
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 03:01 AM
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He’s still gross in my eyes. There’s nothing “wrong” with a hypothetical man who sees escorts, but I still wouldn’t touch them with a ten foot pole.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:59 AM
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Blah blah rationalization. I don’t care. Paying for sex is gross and I have every right to judge people who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:59 AM
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Cheating the natural system is abhorrent on a biological level
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:58 AM
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Not all men are meant to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:55 AM
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A lack of ability to cheat does not make them any more virtuous or good or any less AMALT. They won’t be good partners if they’re too unattractive to arouse the women they’re with. And they could always pay hookers to cheat, which is even worse than regular cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:53 AM
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Only because they can’t get the casual sex they REALLY want
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/18 02:42 AM
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Always prefer guys with histories of regular casual sex. Purchasing sex, even once, is a dealbreaker and will result in an instant NEXT. I’m disgusted by men who view sex as a transaction and who don’t care if their partner actually desires them or not, or whether their partner is actually enthusiastic or aroused or genuinely enjoying themselves. It screams low value and desperate, even if the guy claims not to be. If he can’t be bothered to put in the effort to woo women organically for mutuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 03:22 PM
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Not all masculinity is toxic. Women are not responsible for toxic masculinity just because they find masculinity attractive. Men are perfectly capable of finding positive ways to be masculine and attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/18 04:58 AM
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Men have always valued sex based on context, so why can’t women do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:33 PM
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This is why women should always lie, ESPECIALLY to men who seem overly accepting or non judge mental. Just lie to all men, they’re not entitled to women’s sexual or medical histories.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:28 PM
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A foul temper is not enough to make a hot guy repulsive, it’s still masculine and potentially useful and excusable - but if he did something truly awful like kicking a puppy or a kitty or a baby, then he’d be utterly unattractive to every woman with an ounce of maternal instinct.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 10:21 PM
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Best comment
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/18 02:38 AM
1

But that want that man to be sexually discerning, meaning low n count
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 09:43 PM
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He follows hot girls on IG like a teenage girl reading teen beat and fawning over Justin Bieber and the Jonas brothers. Total turn off and dealbreaker. I don’t date men who have instagrams, they waste time pining over women out of their league like beta simps. So pathetic and unattractive, I’d rather have a man with no social media and an actual life. I hate this effeminate generation of man children, I hope my future daughters are gay (for their sakes).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:56 PM
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Gone wild audio subreddit ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/18 03:51 PM
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Legitimate commitment and security.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 09:13 PM
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Best comment in this whole thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 08:31 PM
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I lie about my count irl. No man is entitled to my medical history
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 06:04 PM
0

Non-fat non-old women are automatically a 6
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/18 05:54 PM
2

Unattractive short tubby balding guys with low T have always existed. They've often been the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:47 PM
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Only sexually invisible. Other males are still either dangerous or useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:30 PM
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Anything with the shit hole. It's just a lot of grossness and pain with no benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/18 07:17 PM
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>How do you know you'd be good enough? The hierarchy in sports teams is based on ability No one is born knowing how to play a sport perfectly. Sure some people have natural advantages, but everyone can find a sport that suits their individual physicality. > if you're the worst (or close to the bottom), those men aren't going to respect you. They'll secretly wish you weren't even there. Well I wouldn't be a fucking pussy about it, I'd have testosterone and a backbone. I'd keep going to practices …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:47 PM
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>Doubtful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 11:00 PM
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Unemployment is part of shunning. No one’s going to jail you or kill you, they just won’t want to be around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:22 PM
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So I lassume I lose my clit and my uterus as well? In that case, why would I even want to keep a man anymore? If I can’t ever have the joy of sex or creating a family, then a man is unnecessary in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 08:20 PM
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My eyes can observe the truth, and will keep telling me the truth :)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 06:26 PM
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They’re not amused, that’s the act they put on. Inside they’re angry and jealous that they weren’t born with a vagina. It’s delightfully pathetic. The women they’re making fun of are still more desirable than they are lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:56 PM
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if I showed that subreddit to most normal people on the street they’d think it was fucking weird and bitter about women, don’t need to be a feminist to see that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:55 PM
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Doubtful. Do you have multiple hot women willing to have casual sex with you no strings attached? That’s the only way men are ever truly “satisfied” and consider themselves “successful” in their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:28 PM
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I feel bad about the fact that misogynist men exist and wish to control women’s sexuality with sex-negative judgement and social punishment. You wish you were hot enough to be a thot. Incel males hate sluts cause they ain’t sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:25 PM
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The fact that red pillers won’t put their name and face next to what they say is proof enough that shaming works. These men claim to be masculine and “rational” but they’re still so afraid of taking accountability for their words.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:22 PM
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Whether I enjoy that these guys are romantically unsuccessful (and will continue to be so) doesn’t detract from the reality that they’re angry at unattractive women becaus those women have more options than they do :p
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:21 PM
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Men only listen to shaming, they don’t listen to women otherwise. Lol there’s no such thing as being insecure in femininity, femininity is not performative like masculinity and does not need to be proven. All women are feminine automatically, men have to prove and continue to prove their man-status. It’s why they’re so sensitive to shaming from women, they only care about women’s opinions insomuch as it potentially gets in the way of getting their dicks wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:19 PM
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If you don’t see misogyny there, you’re either blind or a misogynist. The sub is pure misogyny flavored schadenfraude for romantically unsuccessful men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 05:17 PM
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Men don’t need to shriek for everyone to know they’re being defensive and weak. I don’t divulge medical history to anyone but my doctor :) thanks. Men are not entitled to know women’s sexual histories.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:04 PM
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Check out lewis’s sub “where are all the good men”, he and his sewing circle of circle jerkers are all cackling with glee over fat women and single mothers getting rejected like all the attractive women in their lives rejected them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 01:00 PM
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Social shunning is how women have always criticized men. It’s the only way to get men to care about what women say.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:54 PM
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I’ll admit I want men to shut up about it, and the best part is THEY WILL. Eventually the shaming will work. It’s a war of wills that takes time, and women have always been more patient than men. We’re the ones that wait 9 or 10 months for a baby to grow inside us :) we can wait a few generations for slut shaming indoctrination to disappear from the world, like the outdated concept that it is
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:47 PM
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A negative result from another person or people because of your behavior is punishment. Yes, he would be being punished by me for exhibiting a behavior I do not want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:39 PM
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Including you, and all other men on this forum
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:38 PM
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Lol bodily fluids don’t get “absorbed” they get cleaned out. And if that’s true, then all men on this forum are self admittedly weak, since they’re so afraid of social shaming this is the only place they’re willing to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:37 PM
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Why do you need someone to defend you, if you truly don’t have a vagina? Why are you hiding your views if you’re such strong masculine men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:36 PM
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Honey I grew up with all older brothers. it takes a lot more to hurt my feelings :p. I do appreciate your concern, very paternal if you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/18 12:01 AM
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Yes, they are. Negative consequences from other people for your behavior is like the definition of punishment. When I find out my dog peed on the rug and send him outside because I don’t want that in my house, is that not punishment? He doesn’t want to be outside, he’s getting negative consequences (from me) for peeing inside. Natural consequences happen whether a person inflicts them or not, but punishment is intentional and can only be done by another person or many people (society). There wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 11:54 PM
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Ugh men are such pussies, they’re too afraid of “shaming” to actually speak their minds, only when they’re safe behind an anonymous mask. Ya’ll should just take the social beating, you’ll be better for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 11:52 PM
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you’re literally shaming women for shaming because it hurts your feelings lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 11:48 PM
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Hamster all you want with negative buzz words, I’m still right. “It’s a form of criticism that works on me, so I don’t like it and the icky women that do it” Men are so sensitive to shaming from women, it’s almost pathetic if it weren’t useful for curbing their behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 11:35 PM
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Shaming is a type of criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:45 PM
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Women only judge their mates and potential mates like this. We do not judge family members the way we evaluate mates. She will love her son and he will be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:33 PM
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It’s like owning a guard dog to protect you from rabid strays. Hopefully the dog has bonded to you and you’ve trained it well enough that it would never even consider turning it’s strength on you. The risk of being bitten by your own guard dog is preferable to the certainty of being ripped apart by rabid stray dogs. And in this metaphor, who would want a timid chihuahua for a guard dog? You might as well not have one at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:28 PM
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A weak man cannot protect anyone or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/18 10:27 PM
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I’d participate in social sports for a fit body and a close group of masculine male friends, be social with them as often as I can and network as often as I can, invest in masculine hobbies related to things like hunting or building or fighting, take acting classes so that I could feign confidence convincingly. For the physical I’d wear lifts and take testosterone supplements and get a convincing man-weave if I’m balding, get a badass looking tattoo on my arms or shoulders. Invest in a leather j…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 05:50 PM
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You’re a good man for being honest. I applaud you for that. It’s not your fault if women don’t listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/18 05:39 PM
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Only in terms of adjectives. They are not equally desired in the sexual market.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 11:17 PM
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Some of them are misogynistic as well as jaded. And some of them intentionally manipulate, mislead, and hurt women in the name of their libido. Other than that, the rest of them are mostly ok. The ones that just want to find love and fulfillment and happiness through self improvement are bueno.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 11:16 PM
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Oh my god that is the funniest thing. Or when they try to use photo angles that are specifically used to make you look more feminine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:21 PM
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Sadly, your last statement seems to be ultimately correct. It’s a tough truth to swallow, especially when I lose attraction when im the one who’s winning the relationship and then get hurt when im the one losing
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 06:19 PM
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> Which they will provide less of each day Which is entirely out of their control > at least the specicic man can remember a time when the woman provided her with previously better value in the form of better looks/youth Except they don't. They'll cheat on you with a woman who still provides youth and looks while simultaneously claiming to still love you, because they want you to continue to provide companionship and a sure place to put their dick when no one else wants it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:47 PM
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And also why men think being "not overweight and not hideous" is enough to make them attractive and equal to thin women lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:44 PM
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It's still something they provide
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:43 PM
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Thank you. Women come to terms with this reality SO much earlier than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:38 PM
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Women desire masculinity and strength, niceness is feminine and appeasing and weak. It's that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:33 PM
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> Only dating guys above your league isn't enabling your entitlement to such a degree that it completely distorts your standards? No. My standards have been set for a long time, they're independent of external influences. I like tall, dark, handsome guys and have ever since I first got my period. It's not entitlement to follow your natural instincts and attraction triggers. Entitlement is not about desire, it's about your reaction when your desires are not met. I am not angry or whiny or violent…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 05:18 PM
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Hm. Thank you for sharing :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:50 AM
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Don't you want it again? Is casual sex with multiple women better, from a male perspective, than love?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:40 AM
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> I honestly think most high N girls are just normal girls that, no matter how many times it burns them, easily fall for Chads. They meet Chad, feel "something special," date(bang buddy from Chads perspective) for several sex sessions and cry when Chad breaks it off. Then they feel "something special" for the next Chad that walks into their life. Accurate assessment. They're not damaged, just looking for love from men they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:35 AM
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Good reply, but how sad :/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/18 04:28 AM
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The only part of this weirdass post I agree with is how much being on top sucks! it’s just exercise with something inside me, sooo not fun and not pleasurable. Let me power bottom or even reverse cow girl, but good god riding is just a chore.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:36 PM
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That would be good training and parenting for any girl children. “Misandry” is reality for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:23 PM
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Transactional sex and casual sex are different. Women are not saying “nothing in the past past matters”, they’re saying “a large amount of non transactional (aka normal and mutually pleasurable) sex in the past shouldn’t matter”. An apple is not an orange.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 11:12 PM
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One implies mutually enthusiastically consensual sex, the other implies onesided sex as transaction. Two different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:51 PM
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Would you want to spend the rest of your life with someone you’re not attracted to? Then why should women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/18 07:27 PM
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I think one of feminism’s main values is personal freedom. There are people on every end of the femininity/masculinity spectrum, we all naturally fall somewhere along the line. So some men are naturally more masculine, and some more feminine. And that’s ok, they’re all equally valid as men. But I prefer naturally masculine men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:59 PM
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Still better than being stuck with a guy you settled for
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 10:55 PM
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Most men are ugly and embarrassed by their looks. Anonymously they can role play as a non unattractive masculine man and be the tough guy they feel they really are inside, all from behind the safety of an anonymous mask and keyboard. They also get off on negative attention, because it’s apparently better than no attention. I look forward to the elimination of internet anonymity.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:24 PM
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Because they’re of equal desirability on the market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:18 PM
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Yes, technology makes the world smaller and our lives easier and better. Now women don’t have to settle for men they’re not attracted to, just because those were the only men around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/18 04:04 PM
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Rape wasn’t the PRIMARY mode of reproduction for most of human evolutionary history, tournament style sexual selection and serial monogamy was. Obviously rape happened, but not often enough to force the females of our species to evolve a physical adaptation in defense, like in other animals which reproduce primarily through rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 11:47 PM
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Good for them, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 11:39 PM
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Incorrect. If our primary mode of reproduction were rape, we’d have gonads like ducks. Women are meant to select while men compete for their attention, and it’s beneficial to the whole species in the end. The only ones upset about this natural state of affairs are genetically unfit male individuals who cannot compete.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 11:37 PM
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BEFORE they have sex? Doubtful. Men lie about how they feel about sluts and commitment and how they view a specific woman all the time, all for their dicks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 11:35 PM
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Not to the faces of the sluts they want to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 11:28 PM
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As nature intended :) Males are meant to be the beautiful ones competing for mates and fighting with their genes. May the fittest genes win! It’s not a dystopia, it’s nature’s glory.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:57 PM
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Women have always wanted hot guys. That’s not new.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:55 PM
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It’d definitely be a big turn off, but I’m not sure if I’d consider it a deal-breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 10:41 PM
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Gender equality in society, the job market, politics, the public eye, and under the law. Gender equality is not about sameness or tit for tat or policing people’s relationship dynamics. Anti-feminist men love making up their own definitions of gender equality, and they’re upset that feminists don’t buy into their bs. Is this just a consequence of male-brained black and white literal thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 06:35 PM
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We can have hypergamy without patriarchy, that’s utopia :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:52 PM
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It’s not an exception for myself lol, it’s for anyone. Feminism isn’t about forcing women to give up gender roles, it’s about giving women the freedom to do what they please with their lives. Some people want to live completely outside gender roles, other people want to live entirely traditionally, and others pick and choose which parts of traditionalism they enjoy. This is all fine under feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 12:26 PM
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It being personal doesn't all of sudden clears you here It does why do they go after women who want to be stay at home moms then? Most don't Or find mainstream porn (ie porn made for men) attractive? Lots of feminists enjoy porn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/18 03:28 AM
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Because one is an overreaching societal expectation, the other is personal. Feminism isn’t concerned with what dynamic women want in their sexual or romantic relationships, or what women are attracted to, for that matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 06:06 PM
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If I said ALL men SHOULD fill their gender role, that would be un-feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 03:25 AM
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Are men who want a woman to care for their children and their home also weak? Orrr maybe neither are weak and the genders typically divide the workload in ways that naturally make sense and there’s nothing un-feminist about it, if everyone is happy with the arrangement.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/18 01:53 AM
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I want a man who’s superior to me but who still values me as an equal partner. Why is that impossible?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:36 PM
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Why can’t a man protect and provide without believing women are inferior? Why is misogyny necessary for fulfilling the traditional role?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:34 PM
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Not all masculine men are douchey. And of course women want the good parts of masculinity without the drawbacks, men are the same with femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 10:33 PM
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tall and handsome and mysterious does not equal douchey, it equals masculine. Now jail-time and a DV sentence on the other hand..that's very douche-like. Women put up with douchiness to have masculinity, but they'd prefer just the masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 03:43 AM
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Why can’t I have a traditionally masculine man without said man thinking I and my gender are inferior? Why can’t he just protect and provide without any negative views on women or their capabilities? Benevolent sexism is not toxic, it’s useful. I just want a man who fills the traditional role without being a sexist douche who’s toxically over masculine.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 10:32 PM
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Every Madonna is also a whore and every whore a housewife. They are equal, men just like to pretend there’s a huge difference between them. In reality, all women are both Madonna and whore simultaneously with no issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 08:26 PM
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Totally agree! They’re not entitled to my medical history.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/18 08:25 PM
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What are you madonna-whore complex dudes gonna do when literally EVERY woman is promiscuous? I can't wait for that day. Until then, I lie my ass off and pretend I'm an innocent girl who's only seen a couple* dicks ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/18 08:12 PM
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Genetics are almost the most important part of selecting a mate...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/18 09:37 PM
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“Mental sharks” lol come on. Men are bigger threats than women. Hands down. Psychological has nothing on the physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:32 PM
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Why wouldn’t you? If he sticks around after being rejected, it’s on him to leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:30 PM
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No need to seek them out. I’m attractive and have guy friends, but I don’t let them get clingy or buy me things. If they try anything I firmly let them know I’m not interested. I know they find me attractive, that’s not their fault. But we’re all adults so we can keep a relationship platonic even with one sided sexual tension in the background. They’re regular dudes, not incels, they get girlfriends and dates and our friendship is just a part of their lives. It’s really not a huge deal. If you’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:23 PM
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We all are
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 06:15 PM
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For women, yes. We’re not attracted to most guys who are around.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/18 05:54 PM
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Do you think women get aroused while putting on high heels or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 08:59 PM
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Right? I know I'd sign up for that deal. I could always just avoid looking at the junk and the asses, and eventually I'd probably get used to it. But somehow men are incapable of pulling their eyes away from exposed skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 08:58 PM
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> Her biggest fantasy is actually rather narcissistic, as it all revolves around how unique and special and fantastic she is This is a direct response to the wildly indiscriminate nature of male sexuality ("any hole is a goal").
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 08:09 PM
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The Joker and Harley Quinn. The dynamic is hot but so unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:31 PM
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> How would women feel if men came to work with assless pants or tights that made the outline of their cocks obvious? They wouldn't care. Some might find it gross or arousing, but for the most part women would just go about their days.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:15 PM
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Men are sharks, confirmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 06:09 PM
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But it takes a village :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 05:56 PM
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Oh damn, good point with the swimming. It feels erotic for some reason when it's with someone you're into. Especially if the guy is twirling you around and making you feel like a ballerina :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/18 03:59 AM
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Yes, I've been on the pill since 15. Birth control really is a miracle; it regulates hormonal cycles, making them MUCH more predictable and manageable. Plus, it means less acne and hormonal mood swings (which was a huge deal to teenage me). Even if I'm not sexually active and have no intention to be, I stay on the bc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 07:11 PM
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Thanks for linking the original post, it's nice to realize that misogynist terpers are a minority while people with empathy are the vast majority :) Thousands upon thousands of good reasonable people in that thread. But as to the question: t's on each individual to protect themselves from exploitation. But, it'd be a better place to live if people were adequately shamed in society for physically exploiting others, so that they feel guilt for their actions (best if they feel guilt for even CONSID…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/18 04:27 PM
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Weakness, cowardice, helplessness, immaturity, doormat behavior, bad body odor, high pitched voice, religiousity, sperginess or an inability to understand social ques and nuance, being socially embarrassing, being boring, misogyny, anti-feminist views, racism, social conservatism (more specifically trump voters) lack of intelligence or capability, cruelty toward children or animals, weird fetishes or submissive in bed, likes anime (especially pseudo-pedo Loli shit)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/18 05:06 PM
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Dildos have been around for way longer than I thought, too. Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:30 PM
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Good ol' sheep skin
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 10:26 PM
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When was your last successful "daygame" approach?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:52 PM
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Because obviously condoms don't exist..
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:51 PM
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Every madonna is just a whore that hasn't been given the opportunity to slut it up. Borderline virgins are still women, after all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 09:43 PM
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Casual sex is not dating
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/18 12:32 PM
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Not wanting to fuck someone is not the same thing as hating or discriminating against them and never will be. You do you, if you want your sexuality to be a charity that’s your business. I’ll be sticking with tall dark and handsome guys. If only the majority of straight women would adopt your sexual “discrimination” guilt so I could have less competition for actually attractive men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 11:24 PM
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It’s sad that you felt the need to “train” yourself to change your natural attraction patterns. Almost as sad as gay conversion therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:51 PM
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So do you believe being gay is a choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:01 PM
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Yeah, how dare women have sexual desires, it’s like they think they’re people now or something. It’s not like men could ever be ok with women enjoying sex like men do /s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 10:00 PM
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Happy successful men getting laid rarely complain about women. In fact, they’re more likely to be feminists. They have no reason to dislike women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:12 PM
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You can’t control what you’re attracted to, it’s biologically ingrained. So either get pumped and dumped or be celibate or have unpleasurable sex with someone you’re not into or get lucky and find a male unicorn. Love is a battlefield
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 06:00 PM
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A year and a half after breaking up with my cheating ex. Didn’t want to have casual sex and get my heart broken, and I hadn’t met anyone I wanted to seriously date who I could trust enough to know he won’t pump and dump. Bitter AMALT feelings toward men kept me from wanting to be naked and vulnerable with them. I definitely felt lonely at times and I missed the physical intimacy and fun of having someone else do all the work to get me off lol but other than that it wasn’t a big deal and my thoug…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 05:51 PM
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This isn’t a “millennial women” thing, it’s a people thing. Men don’t love women for who they are, either. Men love women for the sex and utility they provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 05:00 PM
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Why would women have sex with betas they’re not attracted to? That would be retarded
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/18 04:59 PM
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You get wealth oftentimes through social skills...
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:31 PM
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Women select for men who can dominate OTHER MEN. Size and strength mean that they can protect us from OTHER MEN. Women do not want to be oppressed by any man, especially their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/18 10:29 PM
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It's a tough balance to strike
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:22 PM
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Hate the game, not the players. Just gotta get my game better so I can play the players :)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:17 PM
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I thought we were discussing realistic goal Lol you got me then you’re probably approaching relationships in a damaged and weak way that prevents you from being real with people So, stop caring about getting hurt and just be genuine and hope the magic happens? Sounds like a good way to be on the wrong side of 30 up shit creek. If I had endless youth and time to waste this strategy would be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:15 PM
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> It’s not real intimacy if you can pay for it in sex Interesting. How can you tell "real intimacy" from "fake intimacy"? What if I believe men aren't capable of "real intimacy" separated from sex? > the girl in question should seek out people she has genuine intimacy with that is unforced and non transactional That's not exactly actionable advice. How do you "seek out" a relationship that leads to genuine intimacy without getting hurt in the process?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 10:07 PM
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Yeah, that guy would be spergy and weird for treating dating like a transaction instead of a dynamic interaction between two humans. But, desiring emotional intimacy is much less shallow and much more complicated to achieve than just sex. So, I just don't see how it's the same issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 09:58 PM
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Now, here’s the part that always blows my mind. Some of you reading this right now are saying to yourselves, “I’m no prostitute, but how am I supposed to get affectionate attention and emotional security from a guy without fucking him?” If that’s you, go sit in the corner. You don’t get to play anymore Y tho. What woman doesn't want affectionate attention and emotional security from a guy she's into?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 09:50 PM
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Slutty flings, virgin rings. Collecting women and trading in the wife when she gets old. Wanting thin barely legal girls regardless of his own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:59 PM
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So basically: “don’t date men you’re attracted to, date boring unattractive low t men who couldn’t cheat even if they wanted to (and they do)” I’ll pass and keep looking for the male unicorn aka beta fucks or a hot guy who wants to commit. This post sounds like a recipe for a dead bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/18 03:54 PM
2

You need money to live, you don’t need sex to live. False equivalence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/18 04:25 PM
1

Completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 11:14 PM
4

A miscalibrated man can quickly become a pennywise-level danger for women
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 08:58 PM
1

Women are different, we typically can’t be attracted to someone we don’t also respect or admire.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/18 07:50 PM
1

Ah so are you one of those dudes who’s bitter he didn’t make the 6 foot cutoff? Sexual preferences are clearly linked to sexuality. Straight women prefer traits biologically linked to masculinity and signs of sexual dimorphism. Size is a large (no pun intended) part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/18 05:43 PM
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I met him online, he was totally my type. He took me out to a nice dinner then we went stargazing at the beach afterward. Overall it was romantic and fun, we definitely vibed and hit it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:38 PM
2

Username checks out lol. Of course short guys would be invested in the idea that their being unattractive is socially constructed. It’s kind of sad, like HAES women. So when are you going to give up your preference for women and start dating men?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/18 05:36 PM
1

Women (like me) hate two groups of men the most: weak men and dangerous men. Oftentimes misogynists are both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:05 PM
1

Neurotic feminine thinking is more appropriate for women than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 05:01 PM
2

At least 3 date rule for guys I actually want to be with or believe I could develop feelings for. If the guy is hot but unworthy for LTR, then fuck and chuck or keep him as a sex/validation plate to make it easier to play hard to get with the guy I really want. This phase of courtship doesn’t last long, the guy will typically initiate “the commitment talk” and then I go wild with sex once that conversation occurs. If I don’t do this, I come on too strong and get fuck zoned. It’s the only reliabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/18 04:53 PM
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They’re “allowed”, but I (and most women) am still going to perceive them as weak pussies and/or misogynists for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/18 04:46 PM
0

Unrealistic expectations, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 08:47 PM
2

How is it not the entire story? If AMALT is true then men don’t really love and all straight women are officially fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/18 08:44 PM
1

There's an interesting theory going around which proposes a woman carved the Venus figure, and since there were no mirrors back then, she sort of went off what her body looks like from her own perspective (and no one looks flattering or skinny from that angle). But hey relating back to your original comment, some fat women still retain a good hip/waist ratio instead of a round blob shape, and they're the real BBWs.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 07:33 PM
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Men want women with a good hip to waist ratio, so they don't like overly fat or overly skinny women or old or sick women. Everything beyond that is social conditioning.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 07:21 PM
2

Tall men are more intimidating, which helps in preventing conflict in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/18 07:12 PM
5

Well that’s going to keep happening when your comments keep proving your username.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 09:24 PM
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Username checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/18 03:42 PM
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Of course I fantasize about sexy men, but that doesn't mean I'm going to cheat for a chance with someone who just wants to dump a fuck in me. ​ Now, if the guy has everything my boyfriend offers and more, is better in all ways than my boyfriend and I could guarantee he'd commit, that'd be a slightly different story. Still wouldn't cheat, however I'd be very tempted to officially jump ship for a yacht. But, that's not reality, so it would never happen. It's not something most men should bother wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/18 12:01 AM
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The only actual currency is currency.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 11:05 PM
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Regular casual sex between enthusiastic consenting partners is VERY different from transactional sex with lopsided enthusiasm. One is not a hypocrite for judging one but not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/18 04:58 PM
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> women's behavior is even worse, considering lesbian relationships have the highest rates of dead bedrooms This statement word for word is in so many of your comments and it's so unrelated to anything. Very bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:19 PM
1

Do you even know what incel means, bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:09 PM
1

Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:06 PM
3

I find those are the men who are most likely to cheat, because cheating has been normalized in their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 06:05 PM
2

Yeah, why not have a dead bedroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/18 05:54 PM
0

Holy hyperbole. I’m talking about maybe the top 35% not 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 11:59 PM
5

That’s what we all seem to be betting on. It honestly makes me nervous sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 11:58 PM
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Thanks, I do know that, deep down. But, we all have insecurities and sometimes those insecurities take the wheel and distort reality. I might just be feeling extra insecure today, which made it easy to create this parody post -shrug-. Either way, I appreciate your input!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 07:24 PM
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I like this idea. Or find a guy who's good looking, but socially programmed from a young age to view cheating as anathema. Sadly, too many young men are breaking out of that social programming these days, or its not being drilled into their heads well enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:59 PM
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"Average brown dude". Do you have a lot of sexual options outside the relationship you could exercise, if you wanted to? When was the last time a woman hit on you or complimented you physically?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:58 PM
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Great answer!! Much more than I was expecting with this gender-swap experiment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:42 PM
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Two decades age difference is way too old, I don't want to have to shop for a new husband before I'm in the retirement home lol. I do agree with the advice of finding a former player who's ready to settle down. But, how do you know he won't feel the itch for variety again somewhere down the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:40 PM
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I agree. Thanks for an honest answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:38 PM
2

I'm all ears for better solutions and coping mechanisms to deal with a world where loyal attractive men don't naturally exist :)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:36 PM
3

And this is why there's an adversarial relationship between the sexes. Opposing biological imperatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:35 PM
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So "deal with it" by marrying a "loyal" guy I'm not attracted to at all and then cheating with attractive men? Good to see a red piller advocating for AF/BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:34 PM
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> If he has options you can't complain that he exercises his options Of course I can, I can complain about anything I want! I want a man who has options, but chooses not to exercise them. Why is that difficult to understand? > If you don't want that problem choose different guys. So be with someone I'm not attracted to, or be ok with being cheated on? Lol. This is why I primarily wanted answers from straight women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:29 PM
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My OP keeps getting proven in the comments lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:29 PM
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Your "solution" is to pick an immature, naive, unattractive man with no options. That's not even answering my question. I'm asking how to love a masculine, mature, non-spergy, attractive man with natural male instincts who knows he has options. Those are the men who matter, not the weird autist men who hold onto Disney delusions past childhood. > All this could be solved if women could be loyal in the same way that low SMV men are Men are only as loyal as their options. AMALT, if the low SMV man…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:23 PM
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-LOUD BUZZER NOISE- Nope. That's not love or commitment. That an old car moving into the shed so its owner can put a new Maserati in the garage. Basically, you're proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:05 PM
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Would men prefer women act like they do and just cheat instead of breaking up?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 06:04 PM
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It's a parody, but also a legit post. I wanted legit answers, so I made my own thread. Hope this is ok, mods!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:55 PM
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A gender-swapped critique is not necessarily an attack. I do genuinely feel worried/insecure about this aspect of male nature, as the other OP obviously feels about female nature. We all just have to come to terms with the fact that unconditional romantic love doesn't exist and human social interactions are fraught with risk. I'm hoping the OP of the original post sees this reversal and has a slight change or heart, or at least a realization that women feel just as insecure as men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:54 PM
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You don't think fathers and brothers and cousins would care if their female family member gets hurt? The "alpha" would be run out of the tribe if he made enough enemies. I doubt you've ever watched a nat geo documentary if you think males just get away with doing whatever they want, and family bonds and numbers don't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/18 05:10 PM
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In nature women have male family members and comrades to kill any male that “slaps the shit out of her”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:33 PM
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In nature, rapists get their genitals bitten off by the female and the female’s tribe. Also, men are easier to “brainwash” because they’re naturally less sexually selective. It wouldn’t work on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/18 05:30 PM
1

In your belly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:48 PM
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Entitlement, bitterness, anger at natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 09:46 PM
1

/r/thatHappened Baby needs a binkie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 08:05 PM
1

You must have a lot of estrogen, then. Congrats
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/18 08:04 PM
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None of that matters when men die ten years sooner than women because of the dumb decisions testosterone encourages them to make.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:31 PM
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Too bad for you, most women reproduce whether you like it or not. It’s sad baby men like you who get selected out of the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 03:30 PM
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We're already doing that, by encouraging all women to be sluts, but with men they're actually attracted to (so not you) :) when we reach peak sluthood men with complexes will never be able to settle down and have kids, eventually the madonna whore complex will be bred out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 12:21 AM
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I see him as a male non sexual entity. Egg head with weird eye area and eye bags, no cheek or jaw bones, and a hairline you'd see on a newborn. Male human, but not a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 12:16 AM
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Because female nature doesnt give a shit about anything, it cares only about its own survival, and its willing to turn everything to shit for it That's not female nature, that's just nature nature, bro. Survival and reproduction are all that matter, women are simply better at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 12:12 AM
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I'd move him to a different district, to a different school, and hope he doesn't fuck that one up too. I'd tell him to remake every social media account he has. Most importantly of all, I'd try to instill some social skills, self esteem, and understanding of social hierarchies into him so he doesn't get bullied in the future. Also, I'd be pretty pissed at my husband if he raised a wimpy kid who gets ganged up on by girls and doesn't have any friends to back him up. I'd tell him to get in here an…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/18 12:05 AM
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Non sequitur when
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 04:32 AM
6

Let's just stop telling people what to do with their organs and the things growing inside them, irrespective of gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 02:59 AM
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People who own a uterus care more about rights pertaining to uteruses, who knew If men could get pregnant there'd be drive thru abortions. Drive around. Thank u cum again.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:53 AM
2

Gae boi says "what"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:36 AM
2

DEY EAT DA POO POO
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:35 AM
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Volcel detected womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:10 AM
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Tall Indian with a good jawline and long hair who could pass as vaguely Mediterranean or Hispanic, obviously no accent allowed (unless it's the Indian accent that sounds just like an english accent, then sign me the f up). If it's an average Indian dude versus a fat guy with good genes (tall, good jawline under the fat, thick full head of hair), then I'll take the fattie and get his ass on keto.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:07 AM
1

And not the Chad you closeted homos are into
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/18 12:05 AM
1

but if they feel bad about something they're loosers and get less support / affection / sex because of their weakness Do you want to be sexy or do you want to be weak? A man cannot be sexy and weak simultaneously, like a woman can. Women do not find weakness and vulnerability attractive, like men do. A woman can either nurture you or want to fuck you, not both.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:54 PM
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Why are women evil for being turned off by weakness? When we encounter weakness it activates the maternal part of the brain, which dampens any sexual feelings, because women aren't supposed to be attracted to the things they nurture (babies). Sad or fearful men are unsexy, case closed. Happy, confident, boisterous men filled with virility are sexy. You must be really weak and whiny and cry all the time if this fact of female biology bothers you so much. You're so scared of being left for being v…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 11:48 PM
1

Old and rich people don't have pajamas, they have leisure suits
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:06 PM
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SHOWS LOW ENERGY, LOW STATUS. SAD.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 10:02 PM
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Ok now we can all agree that's toxic behavior lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 09:32 PM
0

This is so specific lol. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 09:09 PM
8

Toxic femininity isn't just "things beachredwhine doesn't like"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 09:08 PM
3

That explains the tiny grey sausage she brought home for breakfast this morning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:57 PM
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About as horrifying as you must have felt the first time you looked down at your own dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/18 08:55 PM
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Dope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/18 12:38 AM
2

I found the main character to be pathetic, naive, and gross in his pedestalization of Summer, and it didn't seem like he was ever actually in love with HER, just the idea of her. The film appeals to beta bois pining for women out of their league. I'm not the target audience, so it's not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/18 05:40 PM
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How is the man not getting friendship? An orbiter is a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 01:23 AM
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Dildos are not the equivalent of an attempted human replacement. Dildos do not have a body attached. I don't care about flesh lights (the actual equivalent of dildos).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 04:58 PM
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I like confident, intelligent men who are tall and able to man handle me in the bedroom. Jock behavior is a turn off, since it usually indicates a lack of intelligence and uniqueness. They're boring "supernormies" as atlas puts it. Nice muscles are always a plus, but they're not a priority, since they can always be attained later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 04:28 PM
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I'm scared that otherwise attractive men are going to use sex dolls and make themselves completely unattractive to me. A world where all men fuck inanimate humanoid objects is a world where I become asexual, and that'd just be a shame. I don't care if otherwise gross or creepy men use sex dolls, I wasn't considering them anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/18 03:34 PM
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Loathing of spergy losers is something all people can be brought together around
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 02:56 AM
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It's not about money, it's about losing your life partner and your security and stability for the future. There's more to those things than just money. Not to mention the status of being truly committed to. Even ridiculously wealthy women want to be married to their men, to prevent those men from easily leaving and replacing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 09:59 PM
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Men will fuck people/things they find disgusting while simultaneously only desiring to commit or be seen in public if it's with an Instagram babe. Gross. This is the male version of AF/BB
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 09:28 PM
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Women want a guarantee that their man will face repercussions for leaving her when she gets old. A forever girlfriend will be traded in when she turns 40 or 50, because the man has no incentive to suppress his sexual imperative of finding a new (younger) woman, and she will have nothing to show for it. All men want to trade in their aging wives, marriage and the consequences of divorce are the only things keeping them from doing so. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:31 PM
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We all want to pick and choose which traditions to stick with, don't we? And then hate when the other gender does the same, as evidence by this entire thread haha
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 09:53 PM
1

If women are the child-bearers, then men have to pay for dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/18 09:43 PM
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I like what it's done to the sexual market, it makes it very easy for a woman with a healthy BMI to compete and land commitment from a successful hottie. Bring on more fat acceptance! I'll cheer on the BBWs from my treadmill.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 09:43 PM
2

So if I understand/memorize the answer sheet to a test and use that to my advantage, is that not cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 09:08 PM
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It's not a false equivalence, your sales analogy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 08:53 PM
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Most men aren't cut out to get casually laid WITHOUT using manipulative tactics. And so from women's perspective, they shouldn't be getting casual sex, if they have to cheat to get it. Like you shouldn't be in an Ivy League school if you had to cheat on your SATs and placement exams.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:21 PM
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Most men aren't cut out to get casually laid, that's not women's problem. It only becomes women's problem when men who aren't hot enough to get casual sex through using casual sex game instead pretend to want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 05:13 PM
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They want men to make it easy to categorize the interaction into the casual sex box or relationship box. They prefer to be treated more coldly by the men in the casual sex box, so that feelings don't develop and everything stays in its separate box, but dislike the same cold behavior from men they're more interested in. It all comes down to women wanting to protect their hearts.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 04:37 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 04:16 PM
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Only if he is ridiculously perfect in every other way. Otherwise it just wouldn't be worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 04:12 PM
1

Nah Jesus is sexy. It's his cult we don't like
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 05:26 PM
1

Self sacrifice and heroism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 03:40 PM
1

Never been sexually rejected, but I've been romantically ejected a handful of times. I've sexually and romantically rejected hundreds.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 07:47 PM
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Yes to question 1, no to question 2. Feminism is a female advocacy group with societal equality as the goal. Undermining fellow women is not a feminist practice, while personal romantic behavior has nothing to do with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 07:46 PM
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You do know the uterus and Fallopian tubes are not damaged ("ground up" or "scarred") by "too much" sex..right? And that stds are not a guaranteed outcome of a measly 11 partners lol. This series of comments are ridiculous. Why post this scaremongering body shaming shit in this subreddit when you have your own private boys only echo chamber?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 07:01 PM
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Agreed!! This is why enthusiastic consent is SO important. No one should be having sex they're not viscerally excited about. Why would anyone want their partner to not be enthusiastically participating in sex? The only men who complain about this are men who are unable to make any woman enthusiastic about their dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/18 03:54 PM
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Because men are attracted to the majority of available women, not just the most sexually attractive women, so they can be happy fucking just about any woman. Women's sexuality is more binary and selective. Men and women's sexual natures are biologically different and not interchangeable. To a woman, an unattractive man is as unsexy as a fellow man would be to a straight guy. Sex would be impossible, because arousal would be impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 05:36 PM
1

In my head, If a woman can love someone by their action and not looks Keywords being IN YOUR HEAD. Looks are a necessary pre-requisite for a sexual relationship. Otherwise it will just be a loving platonic friendship with unsatisfactory sex. Does that sound happy to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 05:31 PM
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No. Pain is an immediate turn off. I'll tolerate an amount of it, if the guy is hot enough and this is the first time we've hooked up. But after sex ends I'm going to mention to him out about what he did wrong that resulted in discomfort and pain for me. If he doesn't change the program next romp, then he's getting the boot.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 05:16 PM
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How would a sexual relationship with someone you're not attracted to make anyone happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 05:14 PM
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Those guys over there wants a LTR(betas). Why not try them?" This is akin to telling a straight man who wants sex "those gay guys over there want a hookup, why not try them?" Sexual attraction matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 05:14 PM
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Because being non-fat doesn't make a man attractive like it does for women. Women will take a tall handsome overweight guy over a "fit" scrawny dude with no chin. A man with no social status, no height, and no jawline is the equal of an obese woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/18 04:52 PM
1

Autistic faces are masculinized, the eyes are too far apart, the outer eye often downslanted , and the mouth too wide. It's pretty observable with the naked eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/18 12:45 AM
1

One of those things is much more dangerous than the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 10:40 PM
1

Males competing for access to mates is a red pill concept now?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:55 PM
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Females compete for commitment from the top males who have already beaten out the competition. Those top males are the only males who will be doing any selecting. You can judge whether a mammal species is tournament or monogamous by the size of the male genitals and the size difference between the sexes. Humans have large genitals shaped for scooping out rival sperm, and men are much larger and stronger than women. Obviously we're not 100% tournament, I'd say humanity does a hybrid of monogamy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:54 PM
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Nature and natural selection aren't just concepts, they're all around us. It's sad that you find biology so unsettling. Go watch a National Geographic documentary, or maybe the Disney version if your sensibilities are that delicate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:50 PM
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Thanks for sharing your unnecessary opinion, boo. Do you find nature creepy? I choose to see it as beautiful. Peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:23 PM
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A man with bad genes could theoretically produce thousands of children, a woman with bad genes can only make around a dozen max in her lifetime. So, bad genes in the female population do not matter as much as bad genes in the male population. There are also theories that in mammals the father's genes are more commonly expressed in offspring, so another reason for male gene quality to matter more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 07:21 PM
0

Don't ruin a beautiful state like Alaska. How about Oklahoma?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/18 06:54 PM
1

Yeah, this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:53 PM
2

"You wanna fuck or whaaaat?" The whole special had me cracking up, but the animal jokes were some of my favorite. Like the antelope with a phd and a house and without daddy issues being chased by the lion. Great comedy all around. Even my guy friends thought it was funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:21 PM
1

A mostly stoic and masculine man can show moments of weakness at appropriate times without being dumped. I like Atlas's description of "masculinity tokens" which are saved up by being reliably masculine over time and can be spent on moments of weakness.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:18 PM
2

People hate being reminded that they didn't earn what they have, or that they don't have as much control over their lives as they think they do. It's a knee jerk ego-defending reflex to deny this reality. OP may sound like an edgy sperg, but he's not wrong. Free will is a social construct, the interaction between genes and environment are what create behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:49 PM
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Once again, the burdens you groan about were not created by social engineering, they were dictated by biology. Males are stronger, more dispensable. So they compete for mates, protect their mates, take charge and take risks and the blame that comes with those risks. This is all decided by testosterone. If you want to be done with it, then be done with testosterone and get castrated. But not everything is the fault of biology. Social engineering is the reason why some men believe rights and freed…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 11:09 PM
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The rights of men are human rights, women are human, ergo they are entitled to the same rights. Gendered behavior as sexually dimorphic animals has no bearing on the UN supported list of inalienable human rights. Should men not have human rights because they refuse to take on the female burdens of pregnancy, birth, and lactation?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 10:44 PM
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All of these burdens originate from the male biological role. Women will never have to play the male biological role, and why should they? The same way men are never going to take on the burden of pregnancy and birth, women are not going to take on the burdens you speak of, the burdens of being a male in a sexual dimorphic species.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 10:06 PM
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You can say to your heart's content, loudly and proudly, that you only date 6 foot dudes with big dicks and ripped arms, and at worst you'll get some "you go girl!" sentiments Yeah, we get support from OTHER WOMEN. Men (especially short, small-dicked, chubby men) will call you shallow or superficial and imply you're a slut or you deserve men who abuse you. Hey, no need to be modest. You're probably an attractive guy if you're in the same league as thin women. Non overweight women are automatical…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 09:10 PM
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IQ isn't an entirely valid way to measure intelligence, IMO. Also, there are many types of intelligence, and each is equally important and necessary to society. We're made to specialize. We could face this process starting to reverse I wouldn't worry. There will always be a variation of mutations popping up in any population (and the higher the population, the bigger the chances), those mutations include vastly above average intelligence. Humanity will be fine, hypergamy isn't going to cause us …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:19 PM
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If those "dumb, irresponsible people" have good (attractive) genes, then they deserve to reproduce and fill the world with their kids who will go on to do the same thing in their turn. Your opinion on who should or shouldn't reproduce matters little in the face of evolutionary reality. Hypergamy selects for healthy, fit, attractive genes. Those genes will always be effective at helping the individual survive long enough to successfully replicate themselves, in just about any environment. The "wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 06:11 PM
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The point is improving the species, that's the entire point of hypergamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:26 PM
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Men aren't being shamed for that preference, they're being shut out by the market. There aren't enough slim girls to go around, thin girls are for Chad only. Men are upset that women don't value "not being fat" as much as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:24 PM
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Rape does NOT benefit the species, it allows men with shitty genes to bypass natural selection. Men who resort to rape have genes that were meant to be culled from the gene pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:22 PM
2

I loved that special so much, I watched it twice! She's a red pilled feminist and an amazing comedian.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/18 05:11 PM
1

No. Femininity makes tactical sense for the sex without physical power on its side, but it's weakness when coming from a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/18 04:05 PM
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Because it is a gross, clinical, self serving way to view human interaction. There's nothing wrong with a man purchasing a sexual service, but I will never view a man who does so as a viable romantic option.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 05:04 PM
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I'm pretty sure endure is a masculine trait. Which gender has the longer lifespan and has the patience to wait a 9 month gestation followed by hours of painful labor? Enduring belongs to the feminine sphere. Men are fire, they're powerful, but they burn out. Women are water, adaptable and enduring. Manipulation is an amoral tool, and the ability to use it in ones best interest is obviously a positive. My mom left when i was really young and I ended up fine without all that extra nurturing bs. I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 02:33 AM
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Ohh I remember that guy. I'm not going to discourage him from that, trans-women need love too! #betamalesfortranswomen
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 02:31 AM
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Masculinity drives someone to destroy, to take unnecessary risks, to let their libido rule their decision making, and to ignore the consequences of their destruction and risk taking in the name of their libido. Femininity causes someone to nurture life, to pay attention to detail, multitask effectively, adapt, communicate, manipulate, and most importantly of all to endure.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 02:11 AM
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I could name a lot of negative masculine traits, too. That shit doesn't prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 01:54 AM
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That sounds a lot like rationalization to make men feel better. Feminine traits are good in women, just not attractive in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/18 01:42 AM
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The more feminine and weak they are, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 08:43 PM
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Running from a fight, failing to protect his partner and family from danger. Failing to compete in the sexual market, then whining about it. Failing to take responsibility for his actions and mistakes while blaming the universe or other people for his situation. Whining in general is very weak and unattractive. Complaining is for children, women, the elderly, and gay men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 04:46 PM
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I have no interest in a man who views sex and relationships as transactional. Not to mention the ick factor of men who try to cheat/bypass sexual selection due to being unable to compete. Men who are Johns should just stick to paying for sex for the rest of their lives, and forget about actual relationships. They're clearly not cut out for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/18 04:37 PM
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I have 0 moral quandaries with prostitution. It's no different from selling any other service. But I find men who pay for sex to be disgusting and unworthy of romantic or sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/18 02:48 PM
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Women are only valued as potential baby making UTILITIES. It is their womb that is being valued, not them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 04:09 PM
1

Handsome, intelligent, passionate, dominant
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/18 08:45 PM
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How does this paint women as "worse" than men? Men are objectifying, treating women as interchangeable holes, and women are "dehumanizing" (I don't buy this - believing most men have 0 SEXUAL worth does not mean you believe most men have 0 ACTUAL worth as people). Neither sex looks especially virtuous in their mating behavior. But to women male sexual behavior looks worse, and to men female sexual behavior looks worse. This misunderstanding will never be corrected, because male and female sexual…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 05:03 PM
2

Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/18 12:07 AM
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Tall, dark, and handsome is a trope for a reason. Very few women are especially attracted to diminutive, weak, pale, ugly men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:59 PM
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Oftentimes the guys they like turn out to be like the plastic food, devoid of substance and unable to satisfy their needs. There are a bunch of unattractive boys (rotten food) and fuck boys (plastic food), but very few attractive good men (actual food). Desperate men are like an animal with a gut made of iron that can digest anything and then they accuse women of only wanting five course five star meals, when all women really want is a damn entre and salad. Obviously happy couples exist, just li…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:52 PM
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But to the hungry people looking in from outside the buffet window, you appear to be standing in front of a buffet full of food options! "What gives?" They think, "I'd be happy if I had all that food" Thank you for being a great example of my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:48 PM
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Only if they're not attracted to him or he seems desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:30 PM
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That's so hard for me to imagine! Are they wimpy or do they have bad social skills? Either way, I guess it's nice to know this misery has company of the opposite gender as well. Send those attractive dcotors my way lol I'll treat them right.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 11:07 PM
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Are they any combination of: irresponsible, dumb, immature, unmasculine, or poor?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:58 PM
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do you feel technology like dating apps, social media like instagram and snapchat, orbiters constantly texting you has just given you too many options? Imagine you're at an all you can eat buffet. You're standing in line, and from far away, the buffet looks to be full of food! But, upon closer inspection, you find it's filled mostly with rotting food, and the few remaining pieces of delicious looking food are made of plastic. You're starting to think there might not be a single piece of decent e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/18 10:41 PM
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Who says that? Religion? We've never been fully capable of ignoring our primal instincts, and that's a good thing. Those instincts are what drive humanity to greatness. Especially the male instinct to compete against each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 04:57 PM
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The same reason why male moose and elephants compete while the females do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/18 01:23 AM
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I'd be ok with it, but only if the contract is signed BEFORE sex. This way women don't have to fuck would-be deadbeat dad's. Plus this might change men's minds about the whole thing, because they prioritize their dick feels over everything else. So the men who are insistent upon financial abortion (aka selfish misogynists) won't be getting laid, which is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 04:22 PM
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Almost all of the worlds problems would go away (and feminism's goal of 50/50 ratios everywhere could exist) if women would actually date, marry, and/or casually fuck men who were lesser than them No, that would just create an entire new world of problems. We'd have more genetic disorders, the population overall would have a weaker constitutions and immune systems, the collective global IQ would fall, testosterone levels would be nonexistent. Hypergmy isn't to blame for patriarchy, men's reactio…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/18 11:25 PM
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3 is immediately not an option, any paying for sex is a dealbreaker. I'll pick number 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/18 05:26 PM
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Because you have the mental capacity to do so? To perceive something larger than yourself, something as old as life itself. Our lives may technically end with us, but our footprints on the universe don't have to. I'm not saying everyone should reproduce, but I do think the drive to leave a genetic legacy is more legitimate than the drive to compete, accomplish and rise in a society that won't last.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 10:32 PM
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Not as sad as being a genetic dead end. All of our ancestors worked so hard, just so some of us could throw their legacy away in a shallow pursuit of selfish ambitions that will be just be dust in the wind, along with their bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 10:26 PM
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I was completely with you until the last sentence. Incels are detestable in every way, not just because they can't find a partner to reproduce with. They're literally incompetent losers, at least a sperm bank mom can contribute to society and make the world a better place to live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 10:24 PM
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Replicating your genes is the only thing that's valid, biologically. Maybe women are actually the more self actualized ones, since they intuitively realize this? Your genetic legacy is all that matters, not what you did with your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 10:15 PM
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More men are unwilling to give up their gender role (and suffer the relating consequences), than women are. And then they complain about a choice they made.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 10:03 PM
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Not all women complain about it, some willingly shave their heads, stop shaving their bodies, refuse to have kids, and live happy lives outside the female gender role. That's what men need to be willing to do, otherwise their complaints are meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 09:58 PM
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They have the option to opt out of the male gender role, same a women. They just can't handle the consequences.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 09:40 PM
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They don't get to complain about having to fill a role if they aren't willing to sacrifice those two things.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 09:15 PM
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If men value sexual success and "respect" more than being true to themselves and not having to perform a role, then sure feminism doesn't "work" for them. But it works for men who don't value sex and respect above all else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/18 06:39 PM
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That's a way better question. One I'd definitely say yes to.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 08:40 PM
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If the alternative is brainwashing people into a shared delusion? Yeah, I'll take players existing, as much as I resent them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/18 02:51 AM
1

So you want a complete fantasy? Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 03:51 PM
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No. I don't think repressing people's natural desires is healthy or good for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 03:08 PM
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No one is arguing against this. Players are not necessarily bad or immoral, they're just satisfying their sexual imperative. They can satisfy that imperative in moral and immoral ways, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/18 12:55 AM
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No. Bitter cat ladies still contribute to society and have normal social lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:54 PM
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All men have the desire to be players, whether they are able to be players depends mostly on their appearance. A really good looking man doesn't need to have the player personality to live a player's life, women will approach him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 04:02 PM
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Chasing as a straight women only gets you pumped and dumped. Better to play it cool and find a man who is actually enthusiastic about YOU as an individual, instead of just going along for the ride in hopes of an easy lay.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:51 PM
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Everyone has reversals of fortune and everyone will eventually face health issues Then you'd better hope that happens at a time when your wife does not have better options, like when you're both super old and in the retirement home. Either way, it's not worth worrying about. Just keep being the best you, and you'll probably be fine and your wife will only have eyes for you. I'd rather have that than the relative certainty hanging over my head that my partner WILL cheat if given the opportunity a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:43 PM
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Looks are definitely the limiting factor. Coolness, dominance, and DGAF attitude are bonuses, or they're what dudes without good looks use to make up for that lack.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:41 PM
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Haha you're very right. Upvoted.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:40 PM
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I'm not giving orders on how women should behave sexually, I'm giving strategic suggestions for women who want to win the game of love. Also, for those with high libidos, a great strategy to go with withholding sex from the guy you really want is to have another dick on standby (one you will NEVER want for LTR for whatever reason - he might be too short, his dick might be too small, he might be annoying or stupid) so you stay sexually satisfied and won't be tempted to stop withholding with your …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:17 PM
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Agreed. That's why women should withhold sex until they're reasonably sure a man has fallen/is falling for them. Nature made us pair-bond through sex in a way men don't, so it's up to us to protect ourselves. My point still stands that all men are polygamist opportunistic players, even the "good" ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:12 PM
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But if he stumbles and/or a better option presents itself he's kicked to the curb Then he shouldn't have stumbled and failed to be her best option. All women are equally "good girls" and "bad girls" simultaneously, equally "madonna" and "whore", the only thing that changes is the situation. I'd rather have the certainty that if I remain by best self and my partner's best option, that they won't stray. As a straight woman, you can literally be the best most attractive version of yourself, but you…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:10 PM
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They were probably players in their youths and left trails of broken hearts behind them before they found their wives. All men are players and wannabe players, because all men are polygamists. Some grow out of it or get bored eventually. Others get married but still cheat on their wives for variety. You don't know which category these married "good" bois fall into, but I can promise AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 03:06 PM
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That's because they believe an invisible sky daddy is judging them, so they repress their natural behavior. Take the religion away and they'd be players. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 02:48 PM
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All good boi betas would be player misogynists if they were good looking enough to do so. AMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/18 02:33 PM
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Trans women are the answer to incels and the red pill. Want to have sex with a vagina, but hate women and female behavior? Well there's a trans woman for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 04:09 PM
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It's true, as far as prophets go, Muhammad was a dick. But all Abrahamic religions are tribal, violent, and misogynistic at their core. Jesus was born a Jew, sadly he could never completely turn away from his parents faith, and so his cult never truly reflected his views. Just because Jesus was a nice hippie, doesn't make Christianity a nice religion. Islam can no more take control of the west than Christianity can take control of the east. It is a threat for much later down the line, if it's a …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 12:14 AM
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But feminsm's support is independent of their religious views.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:58 PM
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Christianity and Islam are equally patriarchal and Abrahamic, and very comparable in their historical misdeeds. Feminism does not support any patriarchal religion or thought, but it DOES support minorities and refugees (who often happen to be Muslim). Even if your hypothesis were correct, I'd understand the strategic choice. Christianity as a patriarchal system is more threatening to western (aka feminist) progress, because it held us back from that progress for so long, and it could easily do s…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:56 PM
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If you're claiming feminists support Islamic ideology, your source should be a feminist leader or credentialed scholar doing what you claim they're doing. Your sources are mostly alt right internet dwellers circling jerking on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:51 PM
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Your sources are all reddit and youtube. That's gonna be a no for me, dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:47 PM
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There is no feminist alliance with Islamists. This is an alt right conspiracy theory where Feminism supporting minorities' and refugees rights = supporting or condoning a patriarchal religious ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:41 PM
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This topic is so bizarre.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 11:37 PM
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I honestly have no clue. Are they trying to stretch the mouth like the vagina? It's just so bizarre and not sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 05:54 PM
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My ex boyfriend tried to do "the claw" on me lol which is basically forcing two fingers in my mouth and separating them and curling them in a really awkward way. I felt like I was at the dentist and I was immediately turned off. I am certain he saw this shit in a porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/18 04:55 PM
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Financial abuse exists, sorry if you don't agree with it. Financial abuse laws keep women from being coerced with their LEGITIMATE physical needs (things you would naturally die without) into sex they do not desire. And yes, you absolutely CAN have it "both ways" in that circumstance. That's the way our laws are written. People always have the right to bodily autonomy and the right to say no to sex. Husbands do not have the right to withhold their wives' half of the marital assets, that is akin …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 10:09 PM
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Yeah it has to be before sex, so that women have informed consent. Future dead-beat dads SHOULD be turned down for sex, especially casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 10:05 PM
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The hypothetical husband would be free to do whatever he wants with HIS HALF of the marital assets, but his crybaby tantrum would make his wife even more sexually repulsed by him. He cannot legally withhold the wife's half of the marital assets, that would be financial abuse. Since marital rape has been outlawed (thereby proving that it is NOT a wife's legal obligation to have sex she does not want), husbands need to either divorce or self improve if they want sex. So glad we live in a modern we…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 07:32 PM
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The husbands are depriving their wives of a satisfying sexual experience by not being attractive or high value enough. Why should she subject herself to what basically amounts to marital rape? The husband should use the lack of sex as motivation to self improve until his wife wants to fuck him again out of genuine desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 06:58 PM
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The best sex is commitment sex WITH A HIGH VALUE MAN. The husbands being "deprived" of sex no longer have the value they had at the beginning of the marriage, while the new guy does has value.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 04:42 PM
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We all start feeling a lot dumber?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/18 12:17 AM
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You want to avoid this? Make sure you're way hotter than your would-be wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/18 09:28 PM
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Why is a hypothetical woman who is attracted to objectively attractive traits less worthy of respect to you? Is this about insecurity? Is a man who marries an obese hairy woman more respectable than a man who marries a blonde bombshell?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 04:55 PM
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The third one, definitely. I'd put up with one and two if the guy were considerably more attractive and awesome than I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:40 PM
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Biology. If you're surrounded by dangerous wolves, it's a good idea to have a wolf of your own on a leash to defend you against the others.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/18 02:39 PM
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Then "real men" shouldn't complain when they inevitably get settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 03:46 PM
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Cool :) I think most of the reason why society and women try to keep these things on the down low is because a lot of men aren't ready for this information. They react with knee-jerk anger, and male anger is always potentially dangerous. This makes women feel defensive about what they really desire, and that in itself is quite stressful. It's kind of a relief to be able to be honest without feeling guilt or fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 01:20 PM
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Females shoulder most of the burdens of reproduction. It's the whole reason why males compete. The only way that formula will change is if humanity goes extinct, glad you've already thought that one through.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 04:01 AM
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It's not toxic, no more toxic than women having to ovulate, menstruate, and give birth, while men do not. Males compete for mates, females produce eggs and create life. Females are the bottleneck and filter of reproduction, males are the dynamic changing variable that improves the species. Each sex has its beautiful purpose. Nature is what it is. Why fight your role instead of enjoying your part in the dance of life?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 03:16 AM
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Male competition for mates is not toxic, it's beautiful and incredibly necessary to propel growth and improvement in a species. Wars are beta men cheating nature by sacrificing others to fight for them; war is not the inevitable consequence of competition. Bring back duels and gladiatorial combat. Let men settle their fights for mates like nature intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 03:05 AM
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Upvoted for truth. But so what? Why are women's fantasies a problem, unless you don't meet their particular criteria and feel bitter about it, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:24 AM
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Then maybe men shouldn't fight wars over women? Why are women responsible for the lengths men go to compete with each other? Women would be perfectly happy to have men compete for them one v one old fashioned style, but weak men decided they would rather send stronger men to fight their battles for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 02:09 AM
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Hypergamy is not physically dangerous like murder, or rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/18 12:33 AM
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If men want to avoid this, then they should encourage other attractive men to settle down instead of being players.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 05:13 PM
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That men REALLY don't like women, they only pretend to in public and to get sex. That, and they resent being men and everything inconvenient that naturally comes with being men/male (disposability, competing for mates, burden of performance, risk taking).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 05:01 PM
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Hypergamy is the most important natural female instinct, it can never be "abandoned". It is the base of female nature, so being against hypergamy is being against women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 04:58 PM
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Enjoying traditional gender roles in a relationship setting does not mean one is not a "true believer" in feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/18 10:51 PM
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Stop consuming all media featuring attractive women (tv, movies, social media, magazines, porn) and stop masturbating. Wait a month. Then go to the beach or the gym and enjoy your new lowered standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/18 07:59 PM
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They're ok with being alone, and don't want to destroy society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:49 PM
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Women have intrinsic value, if they have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/18 03:45 PM
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So make it harder for them to commit mass killings.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 09:48 PM
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That's why we have law enforcement - to prevent these losers from being able to commit violence, and throwing them in jail if they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 09:47 PM
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Lol just look at rapist mugshots, they might be ugly, but they usually have high T facial features Nah, most rapists look like weaselly chinless men trapped in a teenage boy's body. Same with most of the school shooters. Committing stupid violent crimes does not automatically make one "high T". Women require too much time invested into courtship from men, and commitment That's a subjective opinion, not an argument. But, ok. Rape is much faster So is robbing a bank instead of becoming a millionai…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 05:35 PM
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Source for higher testosterone levels in convicted rapists? And like I said, it's easy for any male to overpower a woman, that doesn't make them strong or exceptional in any way. Rapists are genetically unfit, end of story. The men women are attracted to and select for are the genetically fit ones, they do not resort to rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 05:26 PM
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Rapists select easy targets, not the most attractive targets. And rapists are ALWAYS genetically unfit, because they wouldn't need to resort to rape if they were actively being selected by women. Also, rapists aren't actually physically strong men, they're just stronger than their female victims. Even the most limp wristed male could overpower the average woman. Nice attempt at trolling, boo.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 05:22 PM
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Well that’s exactly how nefarious religion mentally controlled people for so long Yeah, priests literally told women it was their godly duty to be subservient to men, and if they were unhappy with the situation then they just needed to pray harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/18 05:04 AM
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Women are meant to carry extra fat stores, men are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:42 PM
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It means they're much less likely to, if they're at all attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/18 08:32 PM
1

I'm not into blondes and some light red shades look closer to strawberry blonde than brownish red. I like fiery more than orangey lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 11:08 PM
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Men without options are the only ones "bigtime down to settle down". All men are fuckboys and wannabe fuckboys.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:13 PM
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Dark red (mahogany) is hot. Light red (orange/ginger) is sickly looking imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:12 PM
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Extremely important. Right up there with height and jawline. A bald or balding man is like a shaved lion, sad and ugly looking. Very long dark thick hair is highly preferred. The longer and the darker the better. Short hair, receding hairlines, or light colored hair are immediate passes for me. Most of the men I see are unattractive because of their lack of hair. 80/20 rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 10:07 PM
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Those ones are idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 08:32 PM
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And those women are no longer participating in it. So the point stands.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/18 08:21 PM
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Women want commitment, not casual sex. Casual sex will always be a crappy consolation prize. It's even worse when you like the guy and all he wants is your body. Telling women to enjoy being used for sex is like telling men to enjoy being used for their wallets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/18 06:28 PM
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Female sexuality is only chaotic to the short sighted who can't look past a single generation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:16 AM
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"Effiminate fags" that don't kill anyone over their dick not getting wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:16 AM
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"Keeping hypergamy in check" is synonymous with "keeping women in check" by keeping them miserable, sexually repressed and in servitude. Thankfully societies evolve, and the time of the beta male is over forever. Now is the time for humanity to really come into its own. The consequences of sexual freedom for all have only been bad for bottom tier betas. Societal "stability" is a myth. A truly "stable" society cannot evolve and will be left behind by more adaptable societies. Betas spread the myt…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 01:03 AM
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If testosterone is the problem then they should take testosterone blockers. Or else live with their inconvenient biology, like women do every day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/18 12:57 AM
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It would likely apply to them, if they were complaining about it. as we've observed women would rather stay single than dabble with those options Then men should do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 10:45 PM
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How can you believe both this It's more like these guys once upon did have value in society, at least as far as women were concerned and this Female sexual liberation has ultimately revealed what women truly find sexually attractive on a raw, primitive level, and beta guys are seen as lovable and dependable puppies, the object of raw horniness simultaneously? If this is how women truly feel, then they were never attracted to the majority of men, and so any sexual value those men thought they had…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 10:42 PM
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With undesirable you may have a point. But an inconvenient option is still an option
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 10:13 PM
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Nature and natural selection will never benefit betas (the genetically unfit). Does that mean they should just opt out of life entirely? Their rush to give up instead of fighting for success emphasizes the subpar status of their DNA and why no one was selecting them in the first place. Only the stubborn survivors and fighters benefit in nature. The man who gives up once he realizes he can never sprout wings has proven his inherent weakness to the universe. The man who accepts reality and builds …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 10:06 PM
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It's not a "limited pool of options", it's an "undesirable/inconvenient pool of options". There are plenty of choices, you're just not happy with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 09:16 PM
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Well, most men will never be able to generate those tingles, so it's better they accept the state of reality and use that knowledge to their advantage. Long ago mankind accepted it will never grow feathers and fly like a bird, similarly betas need to give up the fantasy of waking up one day with an entirely different genetic makeup. They will never be birds, but they can still build a plane. You can be jealous of those birds flying without planes, or you can just cruise in your plane and enjoy f…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 09:10 PM
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And our value is more static related to our age/beauty. A man can always change his value by changing what he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 09:08 PM
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Women who are infertile or intend never to have kids are also valued though Because our lizard brains don't register that kind of information. Young woman = fertile future baby maker to our lizard brains, and that's the only reason women are valued. There is no "women are wonderful" effect, it's "baby makers are wonderful". The Wall hits hard but she still has intrinsic value And that intrinsic value decreases yearly until she has none. And then her societal value is as a wise woman/healer or a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 09:03 PM
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Young fertile women are inherently valued, but that relies on the assumption that they will eventually produce babies and be a "human doing" through becoming a baby factory. Once a woman is too old to produce children, or too old to be a pretty bobble, then she is viewed equally as "useless" by society at large as a man with no job. Only children are valued just for "being".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 07:33 PM
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Women were probably more attracted to the tall upright walkers than the stout tree-climbers, so maybe hypergamy DID bring us down from the trees :)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/18 07:26 PM
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Because tinder is a hookup app and men are ridiculously thirsty for casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 03:01 PM
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White men often have physical traits that signal good genes and high testosterone (thick hair, strong jaw, tall height, wide shoulders).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 07:29 PM
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Rape is objectively physically damaging and results in a weaker gene pool, female sexuality is the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 07:26 PM
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Disney love: homosexual male couple or a heterosexual couple in which hypergamy is satisfied (ie the woman is a 4 and the man is a 6 or 7).
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 07:19 PM
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I offered you a simple counterexample that women have low T are as capable of having the same traits You're countering an argument I never made. I'm not sure why. Men that acquire confidence and are in leadership positions tend to have their T raised And men who naturally gravitate toward those positions and personality traits usually have higher levels of T. There's a reason almost all sexually dimorphic species of mammals have females selecting for traits related to high testosterone levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 07:07 PM
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TIL women are incapable of these skills. Where did I say that? Anyone can have these attributes, but they're more likely found in people with higher testosterone levels. how a trait can be an "advantage" reproductive wise and be negative socially and for everyone else All that matters are reproductive/genetic advantages. Everything else is a smokescreen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 06:56 PM
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High T is also correlated with ambition, confidence, and leadership abilities - very important traits to have in a modern competitive capitalist society. The majority of high T men are NOT psychopaths, true psychopaths are rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 06:50 PM
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If having children with a high T man gives her offspring a genetic leg-up in the long run, then it is a RIGHT preference. Most instinctual preferences are there for a reason, and therefor RIGHT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 06:26 PM
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The old system of monogamy was a shitty compromise for women, because they usually weren't attracted to the husbands assigned to them. Men are pretty much guaranteed to be attracted to the average woman their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 05:34 PM
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That's not a question that has an answer, I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/18 12:50 AM
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1- You don't have to marry to pass on genes No, but most men who do so are married. And married couples produce more healthy, successful children, moreso than out of wedlock. Why is it important to pass genes anyway? Humanity has failed and it's better if it goes extinct I used to feel that way, until I realized that we are still a work in progress and still evolving. We like to think of ourselves as "complete" and the "final version", but that doesn't exist. We can only get better as a species,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 08:44 PM
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Those men are the chaff, the remaining men are the wheat. Some men DO get married (to sluts, no less!), and those are the majority of the men passing on their genes and raising their children. The men who lack the "ew sluts" response will commit and have the most babies, while the men who do still have the "ew sluts" response will be left out. Wash, rise, and repeat, and eventually slut shaming won't exist. This is the inevitable future, be a part of it or have your DNA left behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 08:35 PM
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expect women to be entrenched in one camp, never both. That's why a lot of men despise the idea of a reformed slut. So, a slut must remain a slut and a madonna remains a madonna Then men will NEVER be happy until they reconcile these desires, because no individual woman is ever 100% Madonna or 100% whore. The truth is, all women have BOTH an inner slut and an inner mother. My theory is the patriarchy was created in an effort to force women to stay in either the "Madonna" box or the "whore" box, …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:41 PM
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Then maybe men will be forced to evolve.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/18 07:37 PM
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How about we don't. Non-violent natural selection is best for all of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/18 03:38 AM
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Regardless, their cause of death was suicide by whatever means they chose, not dry dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 07:43 PM
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Those people die from suicide, not celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 06:20 PM
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From where did I move the goal posts? A lack of sex still doesn't kill anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 04:09 PM
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The goalpost remains exactly where I left it at "sex isn't a real need because it does not actively result in death like starvation or dehydration does" Also nice job sounding like a little boy on the playground. Aren't you like ancient and married? Act your age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:34 PM
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Sure whatever. Nature is why men will fuck anything resembling a hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:32 PM
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Just because something "could" statistically shorten your life, does not mean it is actively killing you. Cigarettes don't kill people, lung/gum cancer does. If cigarettes actively killed people, then there could be no life-long smokers in nursing homes. If a lack of sex actively killed people, then monks in monasteries should be dropping like flies, not living to old age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:30 PM
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lol that's the most insulting thing you've ever said to me, Lewis. Talk show experts are trash. I would accept a peer reviewed source from a real doctor or scientist or place of study. And I'd want it to prove that a lack of sex ACTIVELY kills a man, not just makes him less likely to see his 80th birthday. I never said a lack of sex didn't affect men's overall health, I said a lack of sex doesn't directly cause death so it's not a real physical need.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:25 PM
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So can working a sedentary job or eating lots of red meat. Just because something makes you less likely to live to old age does not mean it is actively causing your death. (Also, "doctor" Oz as a source? Really?) But that does not make it the same thing as a lack of water, food, or shelter. There is no sexual equivalent for the physical states of dehydration, starvation, and exposure/hypothermia.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:21 PM
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You only say that because you don't have any peer reviewed studies showing that men will die if they don't get laid. If you had even a single source, you would have posted it three comments ago. Also, feminist and pro-female does not mean anti-male. It means anti-male imperative.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:09 PM
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What does divorce have to do with this? That's just more evidence that women are more ok with being alone than men. Bitching and moaning is still better than driving cars into people and shooting up schools. Low value men bitch and moan AND also commit violence. Low value women cope with their situation with much more grace and can eventually find happiness in life. They don't take out their frustrations by taking lives or falling out of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:06 PM
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No u. You still haven't proven that sex is a physical need that causes death in celibate males.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 03:02 PM
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Truth. But it seems low value women accept their situation better than low value men. Low value women can always get pets or adopt or foster kids or get a sperm donor and live happy lives without a partner. Low value men instead rant online and go on shooting sprees.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:57 PM
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Nature is why women view low value men wanting to spread their genes as wrong. Women are the bottleneck of reproduction, the protectors of gene pool quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:55 PM
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:) you ass. See you tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:54 PM
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This is nature, not feminism, at work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:41 PM
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When was the last time a celibate man died from celibacy? I'd love a source or an article listing the number of deaths a severe case of dry dick has caused. Men don't "decide" what they need, biology and cause and effect does. If an organism does not die from a lack of a resource, then that resource BY DEFINITION is not a need. Men have a need to ejaculate, thats why night emissions happen. But that's not a need for sex. Babies of any kind are obviously more delicate than full grown adults. come…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:32 PM
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If you do not eventually perish from a lack of something, then it is not a need. If lonely men want women to truly empathize with them, then they need to emphasize their romantic loneliness and desire for love and companionship, not sex. Women (and most people) see low value men not being able to have casual sex as evolution at work (which is why it's viscerally repulsive when they buck against it, like they're trying to sabotage the species' gene pool with their shit genes) so it's hard to feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:23 PM
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"Looksmatch" is a "cope". Your SMV is determined by what you can attain. If all you can get is a very overweight woman despite being skinny, then congrats that's your real "looksmatch". Resent it or accept it, doesn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:19 PM
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There is no such thing as "objective" appearance ratings. If women collectively view a man as a "4" then he IS a "4". it doesn't matter if men think he's a "6" because their opinion on the matter is irrelevant. The way this would really work is men pairing up with women two points lower on your "objective" scale, which means they would be equally matched in the actual sexual market. Then everyone would be happy, save for the bottom percentage of males who would be left out entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/18 02:13 PM
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Because they know their wives/girlfriends would never describe them in such glowing terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/18 08:54 PM
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That's a pretty silly argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 09:40 PM
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I am not. Violence and aggression channeled and directed in a healthy way is a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 09:40 PM
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But some things and some people hold more potential for danger than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 04:24 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 04:23 PM
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Being hypergamous is a good thing :) no misogyny. Criticizing hypergamy is misogynistic, though, because it's basically saying women's fundamental instincts are bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 04:20 PM
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And most incels are actually "volcels"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/18 03:30 AM
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Oh my god is this real?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 10:12 PM
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Men have a waaaaay easier time fucking someone they're not attracted to. Case in point: female prisons verses male prisons.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 10:02 PM
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Yeah how dare women find attractive people attractive! Only men get to do that!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 10:01 PM
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Just like nazi technically means "national socialist". We all know it's a faction name accompanied by an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 09:38 PM
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Very true, we all the the capacity to be dangerous, and that's a good thing! But men can inflict more devastating violence with less effort, are more apt to do so thanks to testosterone, and often do so in an indiscriminate way. When women commit violence, it's typically very discriminate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:59 PM
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It makes them potentially dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 06:35 PM
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You see, "incel" differes from Muslim in that the latter category is voluntary, self-identified, and shares at least some ideas and behaviors in common NO. "Incel" is a self-identified status. "Virgin", "prisoner", "gay", or "mutilated" is not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 04:53 PM
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But they DO willingly associate themselves with an ideology that celebrates violence against women, without decrying the violence, hell they even celebrate the perpetrators of the violence! There's no reason "incels" couldn't just call themselves virgins and completely abandon the stupid internet club for dangerous losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 04:50 PM
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This. Men are inherently dangerous, ideologies just give them to push to unleash their inner monsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 04:36 PM
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Ignoring the fact that there are billions of muslims around the world and only a few thousand self described "incels"...People are raised with and indoctrinated into Islam as children, "incels" on the other hand latch onto their ideology later in life and so are more responsible for what that ideology says.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 04:28 PM
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Single mothers have never committed mass homicide because they can't get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 04:26 PM
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Well shotgun marriages would definitely solve the problem...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:30 PM
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And which statistics are those?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 09:25 PM
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Oh wait I forgot women don't do violence according to feminism You mean statistics and history?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 08:52 PM
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And those passive tactics are much less dangerous and destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 06:03 PM
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No. incel is not an ideology. Yes, it is. They have their own group language, culture, values, and goals. Guys pissed off that they can't get laid aren't out to "make social change" Yes, they are. Most incels want to remove women's right to vote, right to bodily autonomy, and right to choose who they have sex with. The social change they want is whatever will get them laid, at any cost necessary. Some even call for "white Shariah law". This is paranoia Better paranoid than ignorant of a real thr…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 08:02 PM
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It's planning to commit violence with the intent to cause terror in the name of an ideology or to make social change. It fits the definition of terrorism to a T.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:51 PM
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Not all men that can't get laid are incels, they're just virgins or men that can't get laid. Self-identified "Incels" however, are a terrorist organization and a hate-group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:50 PM
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So men talking to each other about women's bad acts and how bad women are is now potential domestic terrorism? If they use language that makes it seem like they're going to commit violence against "bad women", then it could very well lead to domestic terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:42 PM
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Incels are terrorists, so spying on them is perfectly valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 07:41 PM
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No, they're POTENTIAL domestic terrorists. They haven't done anything...yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:38 PM
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What crime is committed when men engage in rape fantasy and talk about it online? Conspiracy to commit rape. When women engage in rape fantasy, is this also a crime? No, because they fantasize about being the victim, not the perpetrator. Also, private fantasies with a consenting partner are VERY DIFFERENT from public fantasies with online strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:36 PM
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You'll see no disagreement from me on that. I just believe the authorities should be paying closer attention to behavioral red flags before these losers take action. I want them to treat potential domestic terrorists the same way they treat potential islamic terrorists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:35 PM
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These men are no threat to you or anyone else Try telling that to the families of the Santa Barbara and Toronto victims. What you're talking about is harassing those men How is it harassment if the men never realize they're being monitored? Engaging in your weird fantasies online is no threat to anyone Ok so online jihadists and wannabe ISIS members are no threat either?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:33 PM
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Nope. Men fantasizing about violence will ALWAYS be threatening. Good luck convincing anyone in society (especially police and FBI) otherwise. Manospherians (especially incels) are potential domestic terrorists and should be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:31 PM
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But angry men are not threats They're one baby step away from being threats to a peaceful society. Men talking to each other and engaging in fantasies on social media/internet message boards is NOT "threatening". If those fantasies include committing crimes (like rape, harassment, stalking, kidnapping, killing), then they are ABSOLUTELY threatening and should be treated as such by the authorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:30 PM
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but you can't have them silent, not angry, and not expressing anger No, but I still have to right to want that. Where are men threatening to rape and kill? On social media. Men talking to each other on internet message boards and engaging in their fantasies is not any danger to you or anyone else. Clearly untrue. They radicalize each other into violence, as we can see with the Santa Barbara and Toronto massacres. That's like saying jihadists talking to each other on message boards and engaging t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:27 PM
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Where in the Constitution is your right to not have the FBI parked on your street or watching your social media? The Patriot Act has been in play for years, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:22 PM
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No, not necessarily, but I would have them closely monitored by authorities so that when they DO commit crimes, fewer people are left hurt or dead. Perhaps we need a new sub-group of the FBI to focus primarily on domestic terrorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:20 PM
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You want them away from you and silent, and not angry, and not expressing anger And also still alive and capable of finding happiness in life (outside of romance) lol. What is "meek and happy in their place"? What is incel men's "Place", according to you? It means not threatening to rape and kill because you can't get your dick wet. Their "place" is at the bottom of the socio-sexual hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:18 PM
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No, I never said that. I said they should go to jail for committing crimes, and their anger is the catalyst to committing those crimes. The sexist selfrighteous anger is a red flag that crimes will soon occur, but due process has to exist so we can't jail anyone until they actually do something (aka when it's too late).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:16 PM
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Threatening people with violence or rape is a crime. Being angry is a threat? Very nearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:14 PM
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No, they're going to jail for committing actual crimes that they often commit out of anger. Where are unattractive men threatening anyone? Incels.me, facebook, reddit, 4Chan, Youtube
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:13 PM
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Dying in a fire and staying in their place are not even reasonably similar. One allows them to live out their lives, the other means they have a painful death.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:13 PM
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They're "allowed" to have feelings, but other people are also allowed to have feelings about their feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:12 PM
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I haven't seen excessive femininity result in rapes and murders so...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:09 PM
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Yes, but it's not just for her benefit, it's for society's benefit. A great reason to not kill these people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 04:09 PM
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Still reason to be suspicious. Context and tone of voice matters of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:48 PM
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The stupid made up lingo they use. Incel, framecel, gymcel, heightcel, currycel, femoid, Chad/Stacy, negative/positive canthal tilt. The shit never ends. If I heard someone talking like this in real life you bet your ass I'd be concerned.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:47 PM
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No, it's english terminology.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:44 PM
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Nope. Only if they use incel terminology and call themselves incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:41 PM
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Nope. Only if they use incel terminology and call themselves incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:33 PM
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If they call themselves incels, yes. If not, they're just normal virgins. It's like how there's a difference between Nazis and Germans.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:30 PM
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The word is associated with a hateful ideology. There are incels and regular virgins. If regular virgins don't want to be associated with terrorism, then they shouldn't call themselves incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:27 PM
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No, but Not all virgins are incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 09:25 PM
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Are you saying women are responsible for incels committing mass homicide?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 07:58 PM
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I have never heard a truer statement. Have my upvote.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 07:57 PM
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twice not you've said women would be okay with killing the lower 99% of men on the basis of physical attraction Uh what? I don't think women in aggregate are ok with ANY sort of mass killing. And to speak for myself as an individual, I certainly don't support any killing. I don't even support the death penalty. then in other you've said you'd be okay with them being subservient second-class citizens Again..WHAT? I already said I don't want men to be killed or be second class citizens, just norma…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:52 PM
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Who said anything about kill? Jail works too. for the crime of saying people don't find them attractive That ain't their crime, bro. Threatening to rape women, threatening to kill people, ACTUALLY KILLING PEOPLE. These are real crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:43 PM
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Why? They're people too. And important to their families/society. We only have to make an example of the loudest most dangerous 3% and the rest of the 46.5% will fall in line and go back to normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:41 PM
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Yeah I'm all for MGTOW as a concept, (being happy independent of romantic relationships) but the subreddit is just awful. I think those guys would be much happier if they just deleted reddit entirely and devoted time to their legit productive hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:36 PM
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Not being considered an attractive sexual option does not make a person a second class citizen. They are still full citizens of society, and given full social, economic, and political benefits of citizenship. Sex is not a benefit of citizenship, it is a luxury. Strife and anger will only prompt the rest of society to bring the hammer down on the dangerous malcontents.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:34 PM
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Thanks. I'll try my best to help other feminists understand the issue, but it is a bit of an uphill battle. Somehow, non-Chads have to find meaning and validation, and they're neither going to get that from society not from women Agreed. It's just a shame that many MGTOW don't actually go their own way.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:29 PM
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They're "allowed" to do whatever they want. But yes, if they want to avoid social backlash then they should probably try not to appear as a threat while also continuing to be useful to society, like all other romantically unsuccessful men in history.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:26 PM
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Not if they're doing so in an angry manner which prompts others to view them as a threat. If they just wanted to have a cry and a commiseration session then go back to their regular lives afterward, no one would give a crap. That's why no one hates on "forever alone" men. But incels are defined by their selfrighteous anger and refusal to be normal members of society. This is why they are rightfully hated.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:23 PM
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Not disappear, just not be a threat or a nuisance. They can still be wonderful productive members of society and good friends, uncles, brothers, nephews etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:20 PM
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which is why there are so many forums dedicated to angry unattractive men If unattractive men stayed meek and happy in their place, then no one would bother them, in fact people would like them more for it. But they're making themselves look like a threat, so they're being treated as such. Male anger will always be treated as a threat, because it IS one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:17 PM
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I agree, feminism in the future should extend more effort to praise positive parts of masculinity and men who express their masculinity in healthy ways. It's like with a puppy or a child: they really do want to be "good", but if you scold them for literally everything they do and don't give them any idea of what "good behavior" looks like, then they'll say "fuck it" and just do what they want since they're going to get punished either way. There has to be a way to praise healthy masculinity with…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:14 PM
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You did call it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 06:04 PM
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That is irrelevant. Biologically, men are low risk low investment in sex and women are high risk high investment. Of course men are ok with having their bodies used. They would not be ok with being used in a humiliating, degrading fashion, which is what dumping a fuck into a woman you wouldn't want to be seen with is. My point is that women treat unattractive men better than men treat unattractive women. At least unattractive men don't get used and disposed of.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:59 PM
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Only because they want unattractive women to exist just in case they become super desperate for someone to masturbate inside. After orgasming they go back to avoiding and disparaging the unattractive women. At least women leave unattractive men alone, for the most part, instead of using their bodies for their selfish pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:54 PM
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So you would marry a plain frumpy hairy woman with narrow hips, wide shoulders, and a deep voice if she fit all your wifely standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:46 PM
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Yeah, and real men want nothing, zero, to do with women who have nothing to offer them in return You can't fire me, I quit!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:45 PM
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Perhaps not consciously.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:31 PM
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And it's in line with my first post No, it's really not. You're pretending that men care about anything more than looks when it comes to who they're going to commit to. In the end, men just want to commit to the best looking woman they can attain, regardless of whether said woman is "relationship material". Women who want commitment need to look real hard at what they bring to the table This is such crap. Men will happily take everything you bring to the table and claim you're a "great girl", bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:23 PM
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It's very relevant when you're trying to paint women as somehow uniquely evil or shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 05:19 PM
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Ok replace model with whatever he views as 10/10 in attractiveness. Also, if he's never had a "model girlfriend before" why would you think he's going to get one going forward He wouldn't. That's why he'd be quick to commit and lock her down.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:15 PM
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This, but unironically.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:03 PM
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Nah he'll still commit if she's a model and he's never had a model girlfriend before. Ideally he'd have the trophy girlfriend at home and a handful of women on the side. Male version of AFBB. Men never actually commit, since they're always on the lookout for an opportunity to cheat (and not get caught).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 04:02 PM
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Guys are actually very quick to commit when they find a LTR quality woman (not just looks) Nope, it's all about looks. Guys are only very quick to commit when they perceive the woman as much more attractive than he is, or the most attractive he can feasibly attain.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:53 PM
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That IS actually how it used to work, before people understood the mechanics of reproduction they assumed children had multiple fathers. A lot of female mammals (likes bears, chimpanzees) use this strategy to have multiple males invested in their offspring and be less likely to harm said offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:48 PM
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Slutty flings, virgin rings.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:47 PM
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Sexual selection does that for us. Why bother pushing a button?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:46 PM
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So would men. Replace "unattractive" with "fat single mothers".
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:44 PM
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I do say! And I also say that real feminists see nothing wrong with healthy displays of masculinity. But manospherians see any criticism of masculinity as an attack on masculinity itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:07 PM
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Of course. But it's also potentially very destructive, and taming that destructive force to have it on her side is very alluring for most women. A man with the potential for violence (but who saves it for the last resort) is attractive. Everything in moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 03:04 PM
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And maybe there's nothing wrong with some healthy amount of aggressive dominant behavior? It's not so black and white.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/18 02:07 AM
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Very true. But you still probably look better in your faded pikachu shirt than a bald guy with a beer belly in an expensive suit lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 11:28 PM
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and then claim that who they choose to fuck doesn't have anything to do with the order of gender relations they'd like to see Why are you convinced that it does?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 11:07 PM
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The best looking men have the best genes, but fashion has nothing to do with genes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 11:05 PM
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That's part of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 09:37 PM
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I completely agree. This is where the incel problem REALLY comes from, thousands of years of repressing women's necessary role in natural selection resulting in the spread of unfit genes. The good news is, these growing pains are temporary and the gene pool will be back to normal in a few generations of unbridled sexual selection. And tinder is helping to speed this process up :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:42 PM
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Beards and status allow men to cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:39 PM
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Cool argument bro
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:35 PM
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Only because it gets in the way of their ability to also have their cake and eat it too. We all hate hypocrisy in others while excusing it in ourselves. No one is above this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 07:03 PM
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They're hypocrites trying to get the best deal for themselves. In other words, they're human.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 06:12 PM
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Unattractive men = incels If you only define "incels" by the dictionary, and not the real world. Do you think every person who believes in equality is also a feminist? Also LOL, there is no "incel ideology" Here's a basic breakdown of their ideology: men are owed sex by virtue of existing because sex is a right, society and women have wronged them by refusing this "right", anything that allows women the freedom to choose their mates is bad (especially feminism), black pill is fact, fatalism is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 04:35 PM
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Incels are everywhere though, and they are far too numerous for any surveillance to be effective "Incels" by definition are everywhere, but actual ideological incels are a minority that can be dealt with. I bet there are incels in the FBI itself and pretty much every organization there is Lol "the incel is coming from INSIDE the house!" Like I said, unattractive men exist everwhere, but incels are defined by their hateful violent ideology. Making an example of the ideologically driven incels wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:54 PM
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Maybe the FBI will open up a sub-branch specifically to watch for things like this? If not, more watch-dog groups will spring up overnight. Incels are like a mold, they grow in the dark and are killed by sunlight. Now that they're in the spotlight, their days are numbered.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:42 PM
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When they try to pick up women they BELIEVE is below their league, and then find out even those women are out of their league.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:39 PM
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if he is in good shape then why should he date a fat woman? Because being in good shape doesn't entitle him to a woman in good shape (aka a woman out of his league). He could still be lacking in masculinity and charisma, he could be chinless, bald, or short. Being in shape/not fat doesn't automatically make men above average like it does for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:36 PM
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Even attention that results in any young man appearing incel-like being watched like a hawk and potentially put in mental institutions at the drop of a hat? Cool. Works for me and it works for society. Incels should have stayed quiet, now society will deal with them like it dealt with dangerous crazies of the past. Time to bring back insane asylums!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:33 PM
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That will only make people "care" about the problem long enough to get rid of it (by any means necessary), not care about the incels themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 03:29 PM
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Even a low T incel is stronger than the average woman, and could become a wall of muscle if they chose to (which would also increase testosterone).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 02:12 PM
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Mandatory would probably be a bad idea. But I imagine a lot of parents would choose to keep their budding teens away from potential predators.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:49 PM
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I think boys and girls should be schooled together until puberty, so like elementary can stay co-ed, but middle and high school separate. Male teachers are usually fine with elementary school girls, but once those girls start showing hips and tits they need to be kept away from adult men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:34 PM
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Approaching me with pissed off face and clenched fists, standing over me, is a threat of brute force That's what I was referring to. You don't have to come right out and verbally threaten them to make them aware that you could fuck them up. A man just being there pissed off is NOT a threat of brute force. It's just a guy being pissed Everyone knows angry man = violence. We all know this instinctively. Women know it even more intimately, that even a soyboy could kill us with one good punch to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:17 PM
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Existing as a wall of muscle and testosterone with a surly expression and clenched fists" IS NOT THE SAME THING as "threat of brute force" Isn't it, though? Most men intuitively understand this, it's why they're more respectful of tough looking motherfuckers and watch their mouths around them in ways they wouldn't around the scrawny IT nerd. And, what, that's actually going to make a woman do anything? What world do you live in where women are afraid of a pissed off husband or boyfriend? The wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 03:05 PM
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I had grown men who could be my father's age or my grandfather's age complimenting me and touching me when I was barely knee-deep into puberty. It fundamentally shook my world view when I realized men weren't all benevolent guardians who would view me like my father views me. It made me realize that men primarily view girls/women in a sexual lens, regardless of their own age or attractiveness level. Before that I had believed that men were like women, that they were only sexually interested in w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 02:51 PM
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NO they do not have the threat of brute force to work for them. That's been criminalized too Really? Has existing as a wall of muscle and testosterone with a surly expression and clenched fists been outlawed? Because that's all a physically powerful man has to do to use the subtle threat of violence, exist. Women do not need power - they already have soft power and use it to full advantage Soft power didn't do shit for the women who endured thousands of years of patriarchy. Soft power only works…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 02:41 PM
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All men are born with hard power (muscles and testosterone) and the instincts to use that hard power to their own advantage. Regardless of whether they can use that power nowadays, they always have the threat of that brute force to work for them as a soft power. I'm more interested in getting to the root causes and understanding our anthropological history. I've heard enough male whining regarding modern day inconveniences. The reason why women need power is self evident, because they are natura…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 02:31 PM
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At least one of those desires is romantic. Men want money and power at everyone else's expense, but they also want to collect harems of women that exist to serve them. Part of why men even want power is to use that power to force young women into becoming their sex slaves. Women's desire for power comes from the intuitive knowledge that in our natural state we are weak and powerless. Men are already naturally powerful, and yet they always want power power.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 01:58 PM
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Men want their weaknesses and failures to have no impact on women's feelings for them. Only mothers love men in that way, so men want women to love them like their mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 01:54 PM
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Realizing that men want to be loved by women the same way they were loved by their others doesn't un-ruin them. If anything it makes them even more gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 02:51 AM
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Same. It has certainly made me trust them less and assume all they want is sex. I haven't been wrong so far :/
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/18 02:48 AM
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That's just untrue. Don't blame the male instinctual desire for harems on women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 08:20 PM
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Men have a strong instinct to sacrifice themselves (not for women, but for their "tribe" and the weakest members of said "tribe"). It wouldn't matter if society didn't encourage or expect it, men would still do it because of the subconscious desire to protect. They feel validated in their purpose as men when they get the opportunity to feel like a hero. Men hate nothing more than feeling useless or not needed. So, in the end, they are still doing what's best for themselves by following their neu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:28 PM
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Yeah men definitely don't cheat and collect women like trading cards when the option is available, they're oh so loyal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:25 PM
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This is human nature. We want what's best for ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:20 PM
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28
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:15 PM
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They spin plates because "women these days aren't worth it". The myth equivalent would be "EVERYONE (including people who aren't beta males) was happier under strict patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:22 PM
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No they glorify history from year 1 to 1959 not prehistory lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 09:53 PM
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Patriarchal utopia is also a myth, one that manospherians love parroting. "EVERYONE was happier when women were sexual chattel and men controlled everything. Everything was PERFECT which is why we need to revert back to that"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 09:46 PM
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He can be overweight, but not obese.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 09:41 PM
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That's ok. She and I agree on most things, so one disagreement don't matter. Team woman + feminism rah rah rah
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 05:51 PM
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Give me a naked aroused Hemsworth brother doing a slow motion cocky smirk plus wink. Now that's girl porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 05:50 PM
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Well yeah, the more open and comfortable a woman is with her sexuality, the more open she'd be to exploring her kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 05:46 PM
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Yep. This is how you get a dead bedroom, folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 05:29 PM
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Never be alone with attractive people without your spouse?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 09:32 PM
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Like just get an herbivore pet if you want it to be vegan with you, lol. Bunnies are cute and turtles are kinda exotic!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:07 PM
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I'm mostly referencing what I've seen on reddit. Thankfully most real life vegans/vegetarians are smart enough not to force their diet on their pets.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 06:41 PM
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And obligate carnivores at that! It breaks my heart when vegans try to force their diet on their carnivore pets. I totally respect their desire not to hurt animals, but forcing a cat onto an unhealthy unnatural diet indeed hurts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 06:03 PM
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I don't think a cat therapist would be a very good listener. It'd be knocking over water glasses while I try to talk about my childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 05:48 PM
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Men with sharp jawlines and high cheekbones look best without facial hair or with light facial hair, but men lacking in the chin department should make up for it with a thick beard. Beards are basically like makeup for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 11:27 PM
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Alrighty whatever you say bro. Being suspected of being an Atlas alt might actually give what I say more cred, so I'm cool with it :P
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:34 PM
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If only! I simply agree with her arguments on occasion. Sadly I'm just a bored mid 20s biracial girl and not a crotchety smartass Jewish lady.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:26 PM
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Forcing young boys into sports teams will likely solve all of this. When you're on a team you learn to socialize, work with others, and navigate social hierarchies. And possibly most importantly, you learn healthy ways to cope with losing/not getting your way. I think a lot of millennial males are lacking in all of those departments; they don't know how to appropriately socialize with others and they don't know how to lose gracefully in life without throwing a tantrum or just giving up altogethe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:22 PM
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The ones that are so different from our own that they have trouble adapting to western culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:03 PM
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It's mostly coming from systematizer men and men who didn't "just get it" Those men were the vast minority in decades past, now sadly that group is growing. Why are more autists and systemizers coming about nowadays? Does our culture and technology create them somehow? People in the old days were definitely forced to socialize more and had fewer opportunities to latch onto black and white systemizing ideologies. Also our modern technology (coding, computing etc) relies heavily on systemizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 05:01 PM
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Most young people in the 60s and 70s WERE wild. Then the 80s and 90s hit with the AIDs scare and religious revivals.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:57 PM
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So literally everyone except maladjusted outcasts and foreigners?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:55 PM
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So? That still doesn't make promiscuity objectively bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:50 PM
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It still doesn't make promiscuity objectively negative like the other listed traits. Also NAMALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 04:50 PM
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Why is "promiscuous" listed alongside objectively negative characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 03:26 PM
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And that's why women will always find men's base sexuality disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 11:18 PM
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Me :)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 11:18 PM
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Of course it would be awesome, but it's a fantasy since most women aren't literally Helen Of Troy. Why would you expect women to claim a behavior is "toxic" when it benefits them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 11:16 PM
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If they do it for me personally and NOT just because I'm an interchangeable set of holes, then I would feel powerful, special, and probably turned on. The idea of (attractive) men physically fighting each other for me is honestly pretty darn arousing. But men typically don't do these things just to have ONE woman, they do it so they can have harems. And so I can't exactly find it admirable or romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/18 08:12 PM
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Men are more likely to physically sacrifice themselves for their tribe or family. They're also more competitive and better at understanding systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 04:07 PM
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Laziness and anxiety.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 05:06 PM
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Lol like show him where the clit is or how a thrusting rhythm is supposed to be like or how to talk dirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:58 PM
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And then you just have to fake it and pretend your life is on the same "normal" timeline as everyone else's. Saddest thing is, no one warns kids about this or tells them about the limited window of time. I for one will ensure my future kid has their first job by 16, so they avoid the stupid catch 22 of capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:13 PM
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Honestly I'm not sure, I just know that's the bare minimum of experience that I need in the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:11 PM
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Right? Dudes on here are acting like I insist the men I sleep with memorize the entire karma sutra.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:08 PM
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Most people are assumed to have their first job or lay around 16/17. So an adult without work or sex experience is perceived as having something wrong with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:06 PM
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Yes, that would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:05 PM
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Having a general air of confidence and comfort in the bedroom, knowing how to build and maintain a rhythm with their thrusting and knowing where the clit is and how to pleasure it. That's basically all I ask, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 04:01 PM
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Yeah there's a huge difference between communicating details and teaching the very basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 03:47 PM
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I don't want to have to "show" him. I want him to take charge and do what comes naturally. I'll lightly correct him if he does anything that I don't enjoy, or maybe suggest a slight change of pressure or angle. But I don't consider that "teaching".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 03:43 PM
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Ever heard of power bottoming? ;) I can make a man cum while he's on top but not moving an inch.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 03:39 PM
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Some things are more biologically ingrained than others. The female distaste for male weakness, inexperience, and infantilism is universal. Men are attracted to neoteny, so they're more cool with teaching their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 03:38 PM
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Cool. I don't want to be the woman who teaches you that, I want to be the woman you fuck after you know what you're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 03:37 PM
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Wanting an experienced partner means I want to be served? K. I guess this normal aspect of female sexuality makes some men uncomfortable. Sorry, but any time you look infantile and incapable your woman is going to lose attraction for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 03:36 PM
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Your source suggests that too much sexual selection is really only harmful in small populations, which humanity is clearly not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 03:32 PM
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Sure, I like teaching my man things, but definitely not sexual things. That's where it crosses into yuck territory, personally. Makes me feel like I'm dealing with an inexperienced kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:17 AM
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If the man you are with did this in his younger days and does not spend money on you or shower you with gifts or perform in this way, he does not find you as attractive as the women he orbited in his younger days. Period How are you so certain it has anything to do with comparison? Wouldn't it make more sense to assume that a person making a stupid mistake repeatedly will eventually realize the mistake doesn't work in his/her interests, and change their ways? Is this just insecurity making peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:15 AM
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Who wants to fuck someone they had to teach? Yuck. It makes the man look infantile and even more unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:12 AM
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Has she had PiV sex on the second date ever before? Probably. And she likely got burned after a handful of times doing that, so now she's attempting to be smarter. if she is trying to use doing that as leverage to elicit commitment -- while having done it readily with others without commitment -- it means she does not actually find me attractive Why do men jump to this explanation and assume they understand women's thought processes? Is this just the worst case scenario, so they jump right to it…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 12:04 AM
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Let's say she allows you to pull her hair during a blowjob and grab her tits on the second or third date, but wants exclusivity before PiV?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:56 PM
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Let's say she does all of the things you want, but after making you wait for exclusivity (when she didn't consistently do that before), would you still be upset?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 11:47 PM
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Shorter men AND Asian men are both shown to live longer than their tall, white counterparts. So they are not selecting for a "genetically fit human race" Longevity is irrelevant to natural selection and evolution. Evolution only "cares" about an organism during its reproductive years, after that the organism's survival is irrelevant to the species. Also, testosterone levels have nothing to do with height, looks, or even personality Fetal testosterone levels absolutely effect personality and appe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 05:17 PM
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Having a more genetically fit human race is always better. Women don't just select for tall and white, they also select for high testosterone and good immune systems.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 03:18 PM
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Caring about genetics makes women more responsible than men in their reproductive behavior. Men dump their gametes in anything willing to accept them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:30 PM
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I literally wouldn't care, or I'd respect him more for being smarter and valuing his commitment more.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 11:11 PM
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Trouble is, most men aren't biologically worthy of being selected to father children. There has to be a way to get these men invested in the future of society (other people's children). Perhaps encourage more young men to become teachers or volunteer with kids? Or encourage them to adopt if they really want a family? The easiest most immediate solution would be to convince them to see other people's kids as part of their tribe/family with enough propaganda in media they consume.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/18 04:27 PM
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True. But men barely go into sexual/romantic encounters with marriage as the goal (sadly).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:48 PM
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Makeup makes a woman who is a 4 go up to an 8, which makes her far more attractive than she really is. If she stood at her true value, she'd only be able to get men of 6-7 in overall SMV Men don't care about "true value" aka genetic value, that's what women care about. Men care more about current perceived value, they don't care that a woman is really a 4 without makeup on, as long as she's wearing it while sucking his dick. Men don't care that their fit popular girlfriend used to be a fat loser…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/18 08:29 PM
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