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Not that much, if he jerks off to porn, I would not want to be with him anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 09:22 PM
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How awful for you and for your son. Were you at least granted to have your son live with you after the divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:23 AM
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No. Virgin men are not all bitter, misogynistic incels. The ones that are, are just way more vocal about it on the internet. Furthermore, a lot of misogynistic men on the internet are not virgins, but became embittered by bad experiences in relationships/marriage. It seems a lot of mgtow men are divorced men in their forties. Besides, if I would still be single, I would very likely be virgin myself and strongly prefer a man who also is a virgin and who waits with sex until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:49 AM
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No, why punish all men for what some men do? Also, it is completely counterproductive. The men who are the most sensitive to that shaming, are often the men who deserve it the least, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:57 PM
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I don't understand were you get that from. There are young adults of both sexes who desire a lasting relationship, and there are immature young adults of both sexes who want to have "fun" without being serious. There are also quite some young men and young women who are just busy living their lives (studying/working/caring for family members) without sex and are not actively looking for a relationship (yet) without the intention of avoiding a relationship. People of the same sex are not all the …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:22 PM
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Lets be realistic, most men who approach women (at probably any age) just want sex & then want to run as far away as possible. That does not mean that most men only want sex and would not want a family. It just looks like that, because the men who are just looking for sex, approach way more women, because for them it's a numbers game, whereas finding a compatible person to have a family with, is not so much a numbers game. The mean reasons that less children are born nowadays is access to birth …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:19 PM
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There's also the complete duplicity of female nature, where the same exact woman that's rubbing her wet body on you in the club might act like you're harassing her if you approached her in a grocery store. Nope, I don't have that nature. That is not female nature, it is stupidity amplified by alcohol. Just as not every stupid thing that some men do is "male nature", not every stupid thing some women do is "female nature". That "female nature" narrative actually alienates lots of women and hinder…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:47 PM
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The tipping practice perpetuates discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:07 PM
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It is very disingenuous to take global median income as a benchmark and not take local costs of living into account. There are actually way better reasons to have a problem with tipping: https://www.vox.com/2014/7/17/5888347/one-more-case-against-tipping The way we tip reflects our prejudices, argues Freakonomics author Stephen Dubner. Here’s what he told Brian Lehrer: “The data show very clearly that African Americans receive less in tips than whites, and so there is a legal argument to be made…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:44 PM
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Yeah and it would be a good thing when the employees get appropriately salary and tipping nonsense is abolished. Tipping inevitable goes hand in hand with discrimination. Even when the tips are divided equally among the staff, it will suck for those who for shallow reasons are tipped less than others.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 10:25 PM
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For me it would not be a dealbreaker, but I'm also from a culture where tipping isn't standard. It is a very weird, american concept to me, deceitful actually. Why not be honest about the real costs? Besides, I don't like to go to restaurants/bars anyway. Edit: it is an even worse practice than I was aware of: https://www.vox.com/2014/7/17/5888347/one-more-case-against-tipping The way we tip reflects our prejudices, argues Freakonomics author Stephen Dubner. Here’s what he told Brian Lehrer: “Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 02:37 PM

I'm now limited to women who are 22+, and a lot of them already spent their best years partying and sleeping around in college whereas I never got to experience this. And also a lot of them didn't whore around in college and deserve better than a guy with the disgusting mentality of (wanting to) sleep around.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 11:05 AM

I'm not sure what exactly is the question. Before the first time I knew I wanted it, there were already years in that I knew I didn't want it. First time I got a crush on someone was around 16, but I didn't want sex. I only started to have desire to have sex, when I was in my early twenties and in a relationship with my (now) husband for half a year or a year or so, and it is only with him that I desire it. To clearify it more: it has not so much to do with the exact age for me, but about feelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:52 PM
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There is no true loss in the losing "options" that were never real, serious options in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:22 PM
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Even when you have trouble getting a job, it makes no sense to apply for jobs you know you are totally unfit for, or jobs that you don't want to do, even if you would be offered the job. By doing that, you are only wasting other people's time, forcing others to reject you, because you are too lazy to make any effort in looking for a serious potential match. At least one side has to select here. Imagine a world in which everyone would indiscriminately apply for every job, while also complaining t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 08:14 PM
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That reasoning doesn't make any sense. Nobody has been over 25 their whole life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 07:20 PM
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Yeah, although in the first case it is probably at least partly his own fault. It is unlikely that a man who wants a loving life partner, ends up with 5 baby mama's.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:20 PM
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Ridiculous accusation. I have never done so, and will never do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:13 PM
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it stops being about being a good person, and simply, "how much sex can you get?" There are some things I honestly don't understand, so I would appreciate explanation. - What is the end goal of it? A girlfriend/wife/children or sex? - In case it is sex, then you want sex in order to be able to have sex? I don't see how that would make sense. - In case it is a partner/family: If women don't care about whether a man is a good person, but just want him to have a lot of experience with women, would …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:45 AM
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Of the people in my life whose sex lives I know even a little about, the vast majority, men, women, non-binary, have or have had casual sex semi-regularly. Then we are clearly living in different bubbles. The people I am close with, haven't done casual sex. But why is it the immediate assumption that if a man is looking for casual sex it must simply be so he case use a woman as a fleshlight, not caring about her feelings or pleasure? The person above described it as if men are sex addicts, addic…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:10 AM
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I think there is a misunderstanding here. I'm definitely not saying all men are disgusting for being men or for being the way they are. I find it disgusting how the person above describes "men": as kind of sex addicts, addicted to a substance (women). With a mentality like that, there is no way of doing sex in a kind, respectful way together, it is a man using a woman. But I don't believe that is how all men are. I know great men who are totally not like that. But framing it as "what women tend …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:55 PM
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This is assuming nonsense about strangers you don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:22 PM
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Not every man is the same. Stop projecting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:17 PM
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Doesn't refute my point. When you have a nature that forces you to desire women as fleshlights, you are an inferior being, who doesn't deserve any empathy for not having the option to use women like that. Fortunately, there are a lot of men who are not so pathetic and disgusting as how you describe men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:12 PM
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Do women not enjoy casual sex? A lot of them don't. They seem to be having a lot of it. Based on what? Are women 90% of people on hookup dating sites? And is sex something a man does to a woman or a fun activity shared between two people? It depends. It can definitely be something a man does to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:07 PM
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Why always that focus on sex, without any context? When a man feels lonely, misses having a partner in his life (with whom he among other activities also could have sex with in a loving way), then yes I feel for him, and there would be quite a lot of women who would understand it. However, when a man just wants sex, without any loving context, it is no wonder that women have no empathy for that. It is a selfish, immoral desire. Women don't have to have empathy for men who just want to use women'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:53 PM
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People are different, and have different desires. For people who don't have desire to have a partner, it is obviously not a problem or painful to be single. For people who have a strong desire to have a partner, and maybe would like have children with the love of their life, it is of course sad to stay alone, and sometimes painful when they see others with partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:39 PM
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The only people here that I have seen claiming that even virgin women want experienced men, are men. I haven't seen virgin women here stating that they want an experienced man, whereas I have seen virgin women stating that they prefer a virgin man. Also, it would make no sense. Why would a virgin woman who is still waiting for the right one and sees sex as very intimate, want a relationship with someone who doesn't share her values and doesn't treat sex as intimate?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:16 PM

It sounds like getting some help for anger issues might not be a bad idea. To be clear: I'm not defending what those women did to you. They were clearly wrong. But knocking another man's teeth out, is not the right reaction, nor justified, nor a solution for anything. Physical violence is only justified as defense towards physical attack/danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:03 PM

No just his reputation, his emotional well being, and potentially his career. Of she's feeling vindictive enough she might accuse him of trying to rape her, and then it might ruin his life. So knocking teeth out of another man's mouth is the solution for those hypothetical scenarios? But who cares right? It's not like it matters what happens to men. Yeah, who cares about men getting knocked up by other men, because of something they even didn't do themselves but that drunk women did?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:56 PM

OP: "I never thought I could be a creep, or labeled as a "violent angry man"," Also OP: "Honestly... I just wanted to reap her head off of her neck, not gonna lie." "I punched his mouth so hard I broke his front teeth clean cut." "I would have kicked a man's ass for half the disrespectfull shit these women said and did to me." "And I just couldn't help it but feel like I wanted to punish them for the whole situation, and somehow the fact that I couldn't act on my emotions like in any other situa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:51 PM

Women suck at rejection. At least they rarely literally ruin another person's face after being rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:40 PM

What unhinged behavior for a 35 year old man. Yeah, he is clearly having a very serious anger problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:39 PM

How common is this situation for men? To be treated with such disrespect and contempt from women? Is this why no man approaches women anymore? If this happened to you, how do you feel? Did you controlled your emotions? I hear you dudes. You are 35, have never experienced anything like this before, yet you suddenly believe it is common for women to behave like this? And you hear other dudes, you feel for them, yet you ruin another guy's face, because of what some trashy, drunk women did? This is …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:35 PM
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Are many women hypocrites too in the sense that they are virgins yet want guards who have been around the block? Where do you get this from? A lot of women prefer men who have not been promiscuous, especially when they themselves are waiting with sex for the right one. As a virgin woman waiting with sex until marriage, I strongly wished my future husband would also be a virgin. A promiscuous past would absolutely be a deal breaker for me. Is it just simply an opposite attracts thing? Relationshi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:57 PM
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I think a rapist seeks control, and domination. And wants to cause fear and pain. That is definitely possible, but I think that is not always the case. It seems sometimes they just cannot understand why someone would not want to have sex with them (because sex is by definition "loving"/enjoyable for them) and in their head/fantasy the victim enjoys it too, even though that is far from reality. They are so egocentric that they totally don't realize that the victim is a person with will and desire…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 01:15 PM
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I unfortunately know a family where the father sexually assaulted and raped his daughters. Would you say he loves his daughters? I mean, you wouldn't want to fuck someone you don't like, right? Yeah, for women this is mostly true. For plenty of men it is true too, but there are way more men for whom this is not true than women for whom this is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 06:30 AM
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What do you mean with that you don't believe these things? You don't believe that they are problematic? Or you don't believe people do it? Well, I have seen it myself, especially the "putting things too close together". And I disagree with you that the last one is not problematic. Yeah, it is not a problem for getting it clean, but it is far from ideal if you have to run the dishwasher way more often. This is not a men vs women thing or a complaint about men by the way. The person I have persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 05:06 PM
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That for example. Or putting cups horizontally, or in a way that they are likely to fall on their side or face up. Or putting things too close together, so that it cannot be reached by water properly. Or putting small things in a way that they can partly fall through the meshes and block the spray arm. Or putting things in a way that it takes unnecessary amount of space.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:55 PM
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Some people load it so unfortunately that things cannot get cleaned.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:33 PM
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Weaponized incompetence is not just ignorance or not knowing how to do something, weaponized incompetence is when there is a deliberate action to act like you’re bad at something even if you’re told multiple times how to do it. Problem is, calling something "weaponized incompetence" assumes something about the persons intent/motive. But that assumption can be completely wrong. if you know how it’s done, and if you’re given instructions and you still manage to somehow fuck it up, that’s deliberat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 03:24 PM
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You know what is also an option? Just talk together as two adults, about whether you want to get married with each other. No need for a special proposal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:43 AM
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I honestly didn’t know that people get engaged without talking about this stuff first. Why would a couple talk together about how the proposal should look like, but not about whether they want to get married to each other? And if they do talk about getting married, why should there be an official proposal afterwards? Talking together makes the proposal redundant.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 07:39 AM
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Sure, men are not all the same either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 04:21 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:59 PM
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How? Just not, for some women. I don't have desire to have sex without emotional connection and true commitment, and have never done so.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 03:58 PM
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Faulty generalization. Sure there is overlap in what women like, but it is clearly not true that all women want the same men. Most women are in monogamous relationships. The vast majority of men is not a virgin who has never been in a relationship by age 40. (And even if a man is a virgin who has never been in a relationship by age 40, it doesn't mean that no woman could have liked to be in a relationship with him. He could have been unlucky, not have met the right woman, maybe too shy or introv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 12:11 PM
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Men are just vessels for the money , status etc they provide. So men can have "status" on their own, but the best or only way women can get "status" is by being with a man? This just confirms that women are less treated as persons than men. In a world in which men have on average higher "status" and more money than women, it is no wonder that in couples men do on average bring more money and status with them. This does not prove that men are treated as objects or "vessels for money/status". In a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:45 AM
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Maybe. I don't know OP. But for me that past would absolutely be a dealbreaker, zero room for compromise in this regard. A man with a "wild past" is by definition not the perfect man for me, and I would consider his "charm" as deceitful and very superficial, not really attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 07:25 AM
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But if you admit that the most beautiful thing in nature to a man is a woman's body, you're demonized. Yeah, you are "demonized" for that, because women are not things. Sorry, but that's biology. There's zero logic to it. It's simply an attempt to deny reality. Poor excuse. There are plenty of men capable of treating women as persons, not as "beautiful things". And that other men apparently have lower levels of consciousness, doesn't mean that biology and reality cannot suck and that one cannot …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:59 AM
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I agree with you that men get mixed signals, but not that these are generally from the same women. Women are not all the same and don't behave all the same. It may seem like that, because those women who deliberately ask for male sexual attention are literally more visible, more present on the internet, and more noticeable. But to generalise this to all women, is really unfair. There are many women who don't sexualize themselves online and don't want to be sexualized. Women do not all deserve to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 06:48 AM
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from what i've seen, men who cannot be faithful don't even seem to reach the phase of the relationship where you can call it an LTR. If that were true, there would not be a significant percentage of men who cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:54 PM
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Men and women are different. Not that different in this regard. By spreading this narrative again and again, it is no wonder that young, naive women fall for bad men. If a guy has the ability to rotate women and chooses you to settle down with, that’s telling you something. There is no shortage of men who like whoring around and simultaneously have a woman devoted to him to raise his children, do domestic chores and maybe have more/consistent sex with. Men with promiscuous pasts are less reliabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:44 PM
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Does he regret his wild past? If not, it sounds like you both have very different values with regards to sex (you seem to see and treat sex as something special and intimate, whereas he doesn't). Can you really have a healthy, lasting relationship when there is such a massive difference in how both of you consider and treat sex? If yes, could he accept a woman with a wild past for a serious relationship, or would her wild past be a dealbreaker for him? In case it would be a dealbreaker for him, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:28 PM
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The rest are just left whining they haven't had sex yet. Why would that be the case? They could as well be the men that those women sleep with during their phases of promiscuous life style. Or they can be men who are together with women without a promiscuous past.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 10:15 PM
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Downright ridiculous. Only a fool wastes his money like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:55 PM
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It is an incredible dishonest take to frame this as hate for masculinity. She isn't even confirmed to be intersex. Easy to say when the only source that you would trust (IOC) refuses to check it and just doesn't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:44 PM
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Just because a country doesn't allow or acknowledge transgenderism, is doesn't mean that people in that country cannot be born with a disorder of sex development (DSD). Transgenderism clearly is not the issue here. See also the comment of kongeriket in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:57 PM
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This has nothing to do with wanting to destroy masculinity, it has to do with not wanting female sports to be destroyed. They don't agree with you about Khelif being a woman/female in the first place, and as a logical consequence of that they don't believe Khelif should be allowed to participate in the female category.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 06:10 PM

Since the dawn of our species females on average have a shown a strong preference for sexually dimorphic men (those who look and act typically masculine). Throughout much of history, women didn't have much choice in who they married. Also, how are you sure that sexual dimorphism is a consequence of sexual selection of women, and not the cause (sexual dimorphism leads to certain preferences)? And how is it even supposed to work? Do women not inherit DNA from their fathers? Do men not inherit DNA …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:19 PM
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If they did, they would be huge and men would flock to them. How would that look like? Do you think men would behave differently om apps for match on mental/emotional traits than on current more visual oriented apps? Would all the men who are looking for casual sex, who swipe right on every women, who indiscriminately send impersonal standard standard messages as opening lines hoping for a bait, suddenly behave differently? There are several options to look for matches on personality/life style/…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:32 PM
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Then why do you have a Red Pill flair, if Red Pill doesn't work in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:43 PM
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Perhaps I might have misunderstood. I think so. My argument is that you might find someone who has no other options, but they might be the best option for you. And vice versa. I agree with you. I just thought, maybe this is not the case for OP, because maybe she is so mainstream/normal/average, that she simply is not compatible with someone like you described, and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:38 PM
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Why do you need to have something unique and original to get into a relationship? I'm not sure why you ask this question. I did not say anything like that. Fundamentally, relationships are about compatibility. A gamer/nerd guy might have no options. Neither would a gamer/nerd girl. Well, yeah, so that makes both a bit different than the average person in some regards. If someone has a rather average lifestyle and personality, they probably are not compatible with someone who is so unique that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:12 PM
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No woman has ever been attracted to my lack of confidence. Only my confidence. I don’t buy this argument, and I don’t think that men should be listening to the women who tell them that it’s okay to be a little unconfident. More nuance here would be better. Women are not all the same. What some women consider confident, others consider delusional or exaggerated. What some women consider too unconfident, others consider just being human, because everyone has insecurities. But yeah, there is defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:05 PM
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How would you know if they are better/worse for you, though? They might be incompatible with everyone else but might fit in perfectly with you. Yes, that can indeed be the case. It's just not understandable and probably not the case for people who have nothing unique and original to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:30 PM
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Even if that would be true, a lot of (drug) addicts come from unstable backgrounds or have gone through very traumatic experiences that made them more prone to addictions. A bit of compassion for them would be appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:17 PM
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Yes, this indeed. The compatibility is what matters, not the number of so-called "options" (which are not all real options, if they are not all compatible). It is just that a lack of options, does not necessarily mean that a man would be a good, reliable partner, nor that a man who has other options cannot choose to seriously commit. People want their partner to commit to them out of love and compatibility, not out lack of other/better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 07:03 PM
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They think the man who fucked 100 women will actually prefer just them..lol. No, but a guy who is jealous on that man, because he would like to do the same but has not the possibility, isn't any better. Both are bad, completely unsuitable to be a loving and reliable partner. A "volcel" waiting for the right woman, is way better than both of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 06:40 PM
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Men need to be confident to attract women. Arrogance, looking down on others and fantasizing about being better than complete strangers, is not the as being confident. And a little bit of insecurity with regards to dating can even be cute, in my opinion. The reason so many men are so romantically or sexually unsuccessful these days is because they lack this kind of confidence. Source? I think it's rather the lack of third spaces and communities that makes it hard for people (men and women!) to g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:48 PM
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I’m talking about rejections for lack of attraction. There is no way for him to know what the real reason is, it's only his own projection. There does not even have to be a reason for rejecting some, it is more the opposite: there is a reason needed for not rejecting someone. Also, what is wrong with rejecting a stranger for lack of attraction? There are plenty of people who don't feel romantically attracted to complete strangers without any context.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:30 PM
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Whether or not he says it out loud, if he is thinking that in his head, he is insanely arrogant, entitled and delusional himself. A woman is not delusional merely for rejecting a stranger who is apparently "better" than her. Just because he is "better" than her in some regards, that doesn't make her somehow morally obligated to not reject him. Just because he is "better", it doesn't mean he is compatible with her and fits into her life. And how could he even know that he is "better" than her, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:25 PM
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theres women on PPD who find virgins unattractive Yeah, and only those women are taken seriously. Women who value male virginity, are again and again ignored, downvoted or accused of lying. There is clearly a lot of confirmation bias going on with regards to this topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:29 PM
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You have a product on a shelf. Why does the market not buy you? False analogy. Men are not products who don't have any say in being bought.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:17 PM
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They aren't, there is nothing creepy or weird about treating sex as something very intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:09 PM
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Most women do not treat sex as something special. Those who do want men who do the same though, that is the point. The vast majority of virgin men past age 25 are not virgins through choice. Yeah and those men are, despite their virginity, not compatible with virgin women who want a virgin man, because of their values around sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:08 PM
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If women found them attractive, more of them would get laid, less of them would be virgins. You make a mistake here. The women who find virgin men (those who do have values) attractive, are simply still waiting for sex too. At 18 most of those women are not married yet, and simply have not found the right guy for them yet. It is completely normal at 18 to not have had a relationship or sex, not just for men, but just as much for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 05:05 PM
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That is not how it works. Women who treat sex as something really intimate, who are waiting with sex for the right man (and maybe for marriage), and who thus value a man's virginity, will of course have sex later on average. They don't "experiment" in their teens. If women matched their actions with their words the whole dating dynamic would be completely different. How do you know that the actions of the women who OP refers to, don't match their words? I am actually one of those women OP talks …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:59 PM
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This women of this sub themselves say virgin men are unattractive. Not all women here do that. There are several women, including myself, who have said the same as OP. But every time I say something similar as OP, I get pushed back by (red pill) men who claim that male promiscuity is not a problem or deal breaker, because "men and women are different and want different things". One even called me a red flag for waiting until marriage. That says more about herself than about you. She clearly does…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 04:44 PM

I’m not red pill but I usually date women with no tattoos or huge sexual history. If you have found such women, why are you still "dating" and haven't really committed to one?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:47 PM

For women, these traits make men desirable, Maybe female ehores desire manwhores, but those chaste virgins that men apparently desire, certainly don't desire manwhores, but a man who shares the same values and is chaste himself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:39 PM

most guys are not looking for formerly promiscuous women in their mid 30s and 40s with tats to wife up for example. at least not attractive and successful men who have options. If those attractive men who have options really would want some low n count woman to have a family with, why would they still be single in their mid 30s or 40s? What have they done all those past years? Why did they waste so much time?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:32 PM

keep your n-count low Would you give the same advice to your son? If no, would you advice your daughter to marry a promiscuous man?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 11:14 PM
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How is that "victimizing herself in her head" and not just reality that pregnancies more negative impact on the mothers earning capacity than on the fathers earning capacity? And how is it "victimizing herself in her head" and not just reality that men have certain physical advantages over women? Why should we deny the physical reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:40 PM
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I think it's fine for someone to leave a relationship/marriage for no reason It's brutal and no very nice/morally right thing to do So you think it's fine to do brutal and morally wrong things?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:30 AM
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Serious question, would you need a crystal ball to be sure your own personality and/or values will not change so extreme that you no longer take commitment/marriage seriously in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:26 AM
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I don't see that rhetoric in the comment you responded to, and I don't understand why you would want to be equally evil as those (imaginary) men who you are referring to.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 12:17 AM
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These disgusting faulty generalizations do not benefit anyone, besides maybe some exceptions who somehow politically or financially benefit from hate between the sexes. If you don't like it when a man generalizes women like that, than you shouldn't do that towards men either.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 11:50 PM
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It is not illegal and you should not feel shamed or expected to justify your decisions. It's downright sociopathic to not care at all about how your decisions impact others. People with this mentality are mentally ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:59 PM
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It would indeed be insanity to marry someone with the mentality of OP. Fortunately, not everyone has that mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:48 PM

You claim women have an "advantage" because they have ownership over their own body, and have the right to not have sex with (certain) men and not get pregnant. That is just as insane as claiming black people have an "advantage", because they have ownership over their own life and don't have to be a slave.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:36 PM

You are making things up. Women are just as lonely as men. Becoming the sex toy and incubator of a man who isn't interested in who she is as a person, doesn't solve a woman's loneliness though, on the contrary. (And if you actually would care about your partner as a person instead of a sex toy and incubator, you would know that compatibility is important and that you cannot just pair up with a random stranger of the other sex.) Women on average are currently having less children than they would …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:32 PM

Then stop desiring women like that, dude. I and plenty of other women don't ask for being desired like that. Don't blame women for your own desire and lack of discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:21 PM

It is like saying black people had an advantage, because they were desired as slaves, and when they don't voluntarily become slaves, they are misusing their advantage. Ridiculous insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 07:19 PM

They are more desired by men than the inverse. *Their bodies are. And that is definitely not necessarily an advantage, considering all the rape and sexual harassment and objectification. Men are stronger than women. Those two are roughly equivalent. No, those are far from equivalent. You can use your strength for your own benefit and you don't need anyone else for that. It still benefits you, even when you are totally alone. That is not the case for that other "advantage". But only men are expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:59 PM

What sexual advantage?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:47 PM

It's bad for everyone, but women are not expected to make any sacrifice of their natural advantages for society the way Men were. What are women's "natural advantages" exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:38 PM

Seems an awfully convenient position for women to take, since it is what lends itself to their advantage in the first place. What advantage? The right to decide whom they allow to enter their own body? Men have that right too, OP...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:34 PM

It's easy to want something when you hardly have to do anything for it. Not saying that all men are like that, but there quite some of them, especially here. They want a a woman who bears his children, but as soon as the woman also expects a sacrifice from him, she is "hypergamous" and he considers himself superior to her. If men want children, they should appreciate mothers for the sacrifices they have to make in order to have children, instead of treating mothers as an inconvenient burden, who…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 05:28 PM
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I don't know what pigs you mean. And it's rather pathetic to have such an demeaning attitude towards people who need help or people who are weaker than you. No one can solve all problems on their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:36 PM
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You are obviously free to not press charges. But framing it as if that is the more noble thing to do and that you are so "graceful" as a result your sex, whereas female (or male) victims who press charges against a someone who sexually assaulted them are "petty and vindictive", that is wrong. Being more graceful towards perpetrators than towards victims, that is the problem here, and there is nothing noble about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:45 PM
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No, you are not doing women in general a favor with not pressing charges for this. With this attitude you are not doing anyone a favor except perpetrators of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:23 PM
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Which is exactly why it should be allowed to deviate from the default of 50/50 in case both parents agree. Do you think that giving men way less than 50% custody as default will always work great in the real world?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:16 PM
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Well women are usually the primary caregivers which is why they tend to be the default parent. Is that fair? Maybe not. Is it the fault of women? Definitely not. This myth again. Women tend to focus more on childcare and less on career, because they choose so, and due to biology. There is not a conspiracy of men behind this. If you don't want to be the primary caregiver and would rather focus on your career, fine, do whatever you want, but please stop framing it as if all other women have the sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:10 PM
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50/50 should be the default though, which can be deviated from in case both parents agree, or when the children are old enough, they should probably have a say in the matter too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:31 AM
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In the UK, 50% shared care between parents is encouraged and almost always granted by courts where the father requests it So fathers have to ask for shared custody and mothers not? How is that fair? Why isn't 50/50 the default? Of course this leaves mothers to parent thr majority of the week, at their own cost and expense of their earning potential, which is why men are legally expected to contribute to the associated costs of raising children. This is contradictory. If a father pays child suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:25 AM
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See my edit of what I’m referring to because it probably wasn’t clear Yeah, I had another example in mind. How would you react in this case? https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1cr27wl/do_you_miss_red_flags_in_the_beginning_of_a/l3wxtx0/
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 05:24 PM
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You kinda did the exact same thing here by separating the choice and attacking the generalization There was a clear generalization mentioned, it was not wrapped in a choice, so easy to separate. Also, the difference is that the choice "man vs bear" is completely imaginary and is not causing direct harm to someone in their surroundings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 04:54 PM
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It feels like people have no issue generalizing the opposite sex but take issue when they’re being generalized It can be different people, but there is an overlap for sure. but man I wish more people told the “I choose bear” crowd that I also occasionally call out people here who generalize men. With the "I choose bear" comments, it is difficult, because they wrap it in a personal choice. It obviously based on a generalization and I don't agree with it, but how to argue with a forever hypothetic…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 04:29 PM
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Even from these made up claims without any sources, one cannot logically conclude that "ALL women are like that".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:52 PM
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In ALL of them, including sephardic kohanim, the rate of non-paternity was above zero. So because a (small) minority of women commit paternity fraud, it means all women commit paternity fraud? The rate of rapists is also above zero in every demographic. Does that mean that ALL men are like that, ALL of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 01:58 PM
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The woman can do one of two motions to increase the depth/power of the trust: a glute bridge, which would require her to plant her feet on the bed; or wrapping her legs around the guy and pulling him into her, which uses her hamstrings and adductors. The problem is that it is difficult or impossible to relax the pelvic floor muscles in such positions (especially the glute bridge), and when those muscles are not relaxed, the sex is physically uncomfortable or rather painful. Besides, with regards…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:18 PM
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“The man does like 70-80% of the movement in most common sex positions” Sure, but you realize this is OP’s point, right? There’s no reason why this has to be true. There is absolutely a reason why this is the case: difference in physicality. Not women's fault, just biology. If you don't like it, you could just choose to not have sex. Missionary, the woman could also offer a thrust with every thrust the man delivers How is this even supposed to work? The woman should horizontally slide back and f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:59 PM
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Even if a woman rejects a man in such a situation, it is strange that she does not feel flattered that she really attracts the attention of a man whom she does not consider bad (after all, for some reason she was friends with him too). I agree, but besides feeling flattered, it might also be painful for that same person when the friendship changes, becomes awkward or distant and might cause the friendship to fade away sooner or later. But the person for whom it is the most painful, is the one wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:59 PM
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You thought he was a legit friend and meanwhile he was just hanging around hoping for more. That "more" he hoped for, definitely doesn't necessarily have to be just sex. And how does wishing for getting even closer in the future (both emotionally and physically) mean the friendship is not legit? If he would like a relationship with you, he probably enjoys your company.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:24 PM
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Can you explain this to me and why even in a situation where a man is clearly in love with a woman, it is still considered that he just "wanted to get into her pants"? I don't understand it either. This idea seems indeed prevalent (at least on the internet), but definitely not all women do agree with it. It is not uncommon for relationships to have started as a friendship. (And the sincerity of the male friend obviously does not depend on whether the female friend will develop romantic feelings …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 02:18 PM
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So, mentally stable people can't grow apart? Couples are not helpless victims of "growing apart". They should take time for each other, pay attention to each other and talk with each other. I don't think that people have to be able to keep their romantic love alive to be good parents. If that's the criterion, a terribly huge number of people fails at being good parents (not to mention the parents who fail for other reasons). If all other things are equal, parents who stay lovingly together are b…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:44 AM
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Only people who don't love others, cannot believe that other people (including women) are able to love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:33 AM
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Mentally stable people don't just go to sleep one day still loving their spouse, and wake up the next day not loving their partner anymore. If both spouses everyday care for each other, are tender for each other, pay attention to each other, try their best to support each other and talk out arguments if any, their love and marriage will last. Obviously that takes two to succeed, but that is not an excuse to neglect your own part. If you are not convinced you can lovingly stay together with your …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 12:23 AM
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Could you elaborate about what makes it so scary for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:05 AM
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I didn’t think the posts here on PPD could get any crazier but it seems men are always looking for any quick trick to get themselves laid because developing themselves and becoming desirable while also having realistic standards and being loyal is just too difficult for them to achieve. To be fair, this place and the manosphere are self selecting for certain men. It is not a fair representative of how all or even most men are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:01 AM
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Why is it that suddenly at day 13 he will rapidly decline? Why does he magically decline rapidly between day 14 and day 13? Why not day 15 or day 12? Why specifically day 13? It must be a murderer on death roll, waiting for execution. ;) Furthermore, why am I obligated to have pity sex with a guy I just met? I take sex extremely seriously and have only ever been with one person. Why am I obligated to do it with someone else? Same for me. The very idea of this is just sickening beyond words.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:51 PM

I just think that a man who is a victim of false accusation or paternity fraud is a human being that matters. Am I wrong? Of course you are not wrong in that regard. I don't think lot of people disagree with this. Women who are clearly proven to have falsely accused a man of rape, deserve similar sentence of what the man would have gotten in case it would have been true. Men who are victims of paternity fraud, should have the right to stop being the lawful father/pay for the child. Women who hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:33 PM

How do you know that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:19 PM

Then I get sued on top of this? But to be convicted, there should be actual evidence that the accusation is false. Just because the accusation could not be juristically proven to be right, it obviously doesn't mean that it is proven to be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:17 PM

I'm sorry you have gone through that, and that people blamed you for it on top of that. At least when women speak out, people listen, while men are gaslit and ran into the dirt. This is often not the case though. There are also many women whose experiences are not believed when they speak out, who are accused of seeking attention, or accused of asking for it. I closely know some women who (as minors) have gone through that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:55 PM

If "helping him" means having sex with him, no of course I wouldn't. 1. I don't want to cheat on my husband. 2. Treating sex like that (outside of marriage, without love or even knowing each other properly) is against my values. 3. Changes are it would result in pregnant and the child has to grow up without a father and without a mother who knew the father well. How do you think a man should handle this situation if they were in it? If he has only so little time left, it would be better for him …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:39 AM

Women are more willing to help when they know that they won't be in actual danger by doing so. Even with the paddle board, it was not without danger. Without that paddle board, would she still jump into the water and pull the man out herself? Would you, hero OP? And is that what you would say to her, when you would have been the person rescued by her? You would just call her selfish because you assume she would not be so foolish to recklessly jump into icy water without a paddle board or somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:53 AM

How many women have stopped a school shooter? You could as well ask the question what percentage of school shooters are female...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:36 AM

Because in such situations, from evidences online, only men will rush to your aid while women stand aside doing nothing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNTZIBkg1l4 While women who are inherently passive and selfish hides, run away, stand around, and post thoughts and prayers on social media. Did you even watch the video you mentioned in your own post? The person who was the first to help, is a woman. Do you honestly believe that the reason she didn't stop the car on her own, is because she was …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:27 AM
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Tbh I’d give up my porn in return for my wife never getting to see Netflix romance series again. Does she masturbate to Netflix romance series?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 04:11 PM
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But here’s the question we need to ask: is rape a “special” crime because it’s inherently different, It is different. Sex is special for people who value monogamy, who are faithful to their partner, or waiting for the right one. Treating sex like that, is completely justified, more than treating it casually, (among others) because sex generally includes a chance on having children together. or does that status stem from how society overvalues sex as a sacred, untouchable concept? It is just your…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:44 PM
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It is entirely possible to make rape laws gender neutral, without downplaying it the way OP does.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 06:23 PM
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Older women who are widows often find older men still alive to date. Not everyone wants to date again after they lose their spouse. And even when people choose to date again, they will still have to live with the loss. The grief more or less stays for live. And if they don't, then seniors groups often provide good companionship opportunities. As much as some women here love to suggest friendships as replacement for a partner, this cannot really replace it, not for me at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:39 AM
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The point is many feminists out of principle wouldn’t enter age gap relationships, rather just ride the carousel or look for someone their age and if they end up single later, then expect that type of man to wife them. Ok, but why do you expect women to fine with men doing the exact same as those feminists? Why should young women start a family with some 20+ years older man who wanted to "have fun" in his youth, slept with lots of other women, and only now he is old wants to commit out of desper…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/24 12:19 AM
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How are you THIS comfortable with immediately generalizing the entire gender? That is unfortunately very common on this sub. Are you also aware how incredibly broken this hypothetical monogamous relationship is if you're asking for paternity tests??? What kind of situation would warrant this? Obviously not the long-term, loving and trusting one, so are we implying that we're trying to save the man who decided to have a baby with the women who is still actively sleeping around? This indeed. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:59 AM
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So sure let the guy have a paternity test but it’s going to go hand-in-hand with divorce papers. If there’s no trust in the relationship then there’s no point in there being a relationship. It is not only the lack of trust. Chances are big he already has cheated. A man asking for a paternity test, is very likely just projecting his own unfaithful tendencies on his partner. The lack of trust probably has to do with the lack of trustworthiness on his side. People who are trustworthy themselves, ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:32 AM
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Did your mother ask your father to take a paternity test or did she not care about her own children? Did you do a paternity test to "discover" who is your genetic father, or do you still trust your own mother? Just because my parents have never done a paternity test on me, I would not accuse my mother of not caring about me and claiming I don't know who my father is. I know who my father is without a paternity test, just like the vast majority of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 09:20 AM
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People's loneliness is not something to be happy about.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:09 AM
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There's a reason why women's swimsuits have gotten smaller and smaller, while mens have relatively stayed the same. Same with public dress codes. The leading cause behind that are the fashion designers, not so much a woman who only gets to choose from what is in the store. I don't want to wear small swimwear, but if it wouldn't be for some online stores, I honestly would not know where to buy suitable swimwear. With shirts it also is very frustrating to me that the neckline of female shirts is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 11:06 AM
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Indeed. Maybe I am weird, but I personally never understood the concept of a proposal when (I expect) the couple already has talked about their future together and knows each others stances on that. Just start planning the wedding. That is not always so easy, if the couple doesn't have a place to live together yet and doesn't earn so much money (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 11:22 PM
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To acknowledge the suffering, instead of trivializing or denying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:36 PM
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Unless the person is asexual, it’s not healthy for someone to go through long periods of life in which no one is romantically interested in them. We (people) have desires of being together Why would it not also be unhealthy/painful for someone who is asexual? Asexual people can have desire of being together too. and wanting to mate. There are plenty of people who don't want children or who treat their children badly. It is not at all unhealthy for them to not have children. If someone goes throu…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 07:28 PM

I never said so, so what is even the relevance of your comment? Are you the president of women? If not, why make comment like this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 10:03 AM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:45 AM
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So you believe/agree with that progressive movement that there is nothing besides that "progressiveness" or "red pill"? All people must belong to one of those?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:43 AM
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Who is "they"? Who exactly told you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:39 AM
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I thought western countries were filled with evil patriarchal misogynist white men anyway? According to who? Do you really believe everyone who doesn't believe the red pill, thinks white western men are all evil, patriarchal misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 09:01 AM

On the one side, women aren't really good at judgin character despite what they say, otherwise every women won't have a "my ex was a douchebag" story, Except that is not true. There are plenty of women, including myself, who don't have douchebag exes. And not all women who claim their exes are douchebags, are right about their ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 08:56 AM

First of all, it would be important that they are aware of their own limitations. Just because they unfortunately cannot read any non verbal cues, it does not mean that non verbal cues are irrelevant in general and that everyone else is justified to ignore all non verbal cues. It might be helpful when they in such circumstances communicate their inability to read non verbal cues. It might be useful to ask occasionally whether the other person still wants/likes it, not just once at the start. It …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 07:05 AM

As I suspected you completely ignore the non-verbal cues that a perpetrator may give of to a victim who is able to read non verbal cues. A situation in which a weapon is next to the perpetrator, but in which the perpetrator has not verbally expressed he might use the weapon, or not touched the weapon (yet), is not covered in your definition, which is pretty unreasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 06:06 AM

My problem with enthusiastic consent is that it’s ableist You could as well say that expecting someone to verbally express their consent or rejection is ableist. Not everyone is in all circumstances equally capable of expressing themselves verbally. See for example selective mutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:58 AM

This whole "A large part of sex is non-verbal" is the exact same excuses that Misogynists used to justify having sex with women who didn't say yes. They would say stuff like "oh but she was leading me on" or "her eyes said yes ,she wanted it". Wtf! That's just their own idiotic projection or attempt to justify their own crimes. It's common for criminals to come up with lame excuses. The reason we don't rely on non-verbal cues are because they are subjective. What might mean Flirting to one might…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:49 AM

If you were around during the 2010s (which is all of you I guess) then you would remember how the Discourse towards Consent was centered around "Yes means Yes" and "No means No". I was too young for that discourse back then, and I guess the same holds for a very significant part of people on this sub. A Man is not supposed to read a woman's mind and somehow "read" her Non-Verbal Cues. A large part of sex is non-verbal. Reading facial expressions and body language plays a big part in sex. If you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/24 05:34 AM
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Really? What convinced you most women don't see it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:25 PM
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A man who catcalls, is by definition unattractive (and threatening!) to me, regardless of his looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 10:21 PM

That clearly results in products with tremendous stench.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:57 AM

I respect men with high body counts (within reason) because it's hard to do. I don't. It's just their stupid animalistic "libido" driving them to do that. Men who have a higher level of consciousness, aren't so slutty. Besides, just because something hard to do, it doesn't mean it is honorable to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:30 AM

Do you also hold that same sentiment when it comes to child custody or "paternity fraud"?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:24 AM

What causes you to write such evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 12:13 AM

There's nothing hypocritical about the fact that men have 20x more testosterone. ... It's simple: get married young, have an endless amount of sex. So just rape her 19 out of 20 times you want sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:57 PM

So men have evolved to ruin women? Women have evolved to be ruined by men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:48 PM

Those scumbags just want more women to worship and serve them. Their wicked fantasy paradise would include individually owning 72 eternal "virgins", solely made to please him forever, without ever having to care about the wellbeing of anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 11:39 PM
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Waiting with sex until lifelong commitment doesn't require a "patriarchy".
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:01 PM
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Love isn't the same as getting laid at least once.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:58 PM
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If only red pill encouraged people (including men) to wait with sex until lifelong commitment, the red pill would not be so bad at all. However, this is far from the red pill, it's rather the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:55 PM
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but a lifetime partner is unobtainable for the vast majority of people (between people in a couple dying at different times, People who want a life partner generally don't mean they expect to find someone who dies at the exact same time or later. They mean they want mutual commitment as long as both live. people just happening to change as they age and happening to change in a way that makes them incompatible with their spouse, luck, sudden emergencies, etc) Not all people shit on commitment. mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:39 PM
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Society can also help encourage people to find comfort in their own company and have their needs met by friends. This simply doesn't work for everyone. Friends cannot truly replace a life partner (with whom one possibly might have children, but even in case of no children) for those who really desire a partner for life. If people without partners don't feel so pained and desperate about their singleness, "just stop feeling pain". This is so insensitive, and helps no one in pain.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 03:22 PM

I understand there will always be a part of men who do so. Those men just shouldn't be surprised when women who don't want to use their body in such a way are not going to be compatible with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:47 PM

Women aren't forced to buy or wear makeup. They are free to live without makeup. They are also free to start their own cosmetic companies, magazines and marketing departments. The vast majority of men do not play any role in the cosmetic industry and quite some women wear makeup in such a fake way that most men don't even like it. To frame it as if makeup is a societal problem caused by men pressuring the poor victim women, is really unfair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:43 PM

Women having to wear make-up, dressing certain ways, Women don't have to wear makeup or dress revealing. Those who do say they do it for themselves, not for men, so they aren't victims forced by men/the patriarchy to do so. just the general attention that's put on women's bodies in media... Unfortunately, a significant part of women contribute a lot to this themselves. or do you want men to DO something about it? The only thing a man could do is not rewarding women who use their body to get atte…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 12:30 PM
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That's about 10 million excess men in the US who lack health care compared to women. Not sure how you get to 10 million with 4% of the adult male population of the USA. The number of women without health insurance is bigger than the difference in the numbers of men and women without health insurance. Again, framing it as a "men's issue" is an injustice to the millions of American women without health insurance. It's an injustice to men that you're unwilling to see it for the gendered problem tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 07:15 PM
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Maybe he lives in a retirement home? ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:57 PM
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Men in the US are far more likely to lack health coverage. The difference is not that big: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1276674/percentage-of-us-adults-without-health-insurance-by-gender/. It is definitely a problem for a part of US citizens, but it has not so much to do with their sex. It would be an injustice to all the women without health insurance (and to the vast majority of men who have health insurance) to call this a "men's issue". WHY do men need so many more painkillers than wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 06:54 PM
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Societal security means a limitation on the personal liberties of other people. But without government that's a good chance a lot of disabled people and old people would be taken advantage of. At best you can strike in the middle but it's not true Liberty or true societal safety So true liberty contains the freedom to put limitations on the personal liberties of others (more vulnerable people)? True "liberty" is the liberty of the strongest and most evil, not of others in society? If the only tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:17 PM

Sure I get sex easily, but I'm not satisfied unless my perfect Chad who meets 20+ requirements is willing to commit to my average ass just because. Just because a woman doesn't want to be a whore and thus doesn't appreciate merely sexual attention, it doesn't mean that she is looking for some impossible manwhore. It is not unreasonable to want someone who is actually compatible with you, when you plan to spend the rest of your life with them and maybe hope to have children together. It is comple…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 12:02 AM

Because men do all the hard parts of life for you. Men pursue you, ask you out, take you out, buy you things. That is just a Disney fantasy. There’s literally women making millions online just by showing themselves. Those are rare exceptions. It's ridiculously dishonest to take them as a representative of all women. I wish so bad I was born a woman, my life would be amazing. If you really wanted, you could become a trans woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 11:30 PM
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Then it apparently doesn't feel the same for everyone. Maybe it's because the physical differences between men and women. They are a bit different in that region of the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:37 AM
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Why do you think those must be physically uncomfortable to wear? Do you not wear underwear?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:28 AM
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They are doing it to get access to higher caliber men, Higher caliber men? I definitely don't consider men who pay much attention to/chase revealingly dressed women as "higher caliber men", but rather lower caliber men. (I obviously don't dress like that myself.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:24 AM
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I never dress tightly in public, but the idea that tight clothes must be physically uncomfortable is really a misunderstanding. It often does feel physically comfortable. The reason I don't dress like that in public, is that I am not comfortable with others seeing me like that, but definitely not because it is physically uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 09:04 AM
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Same reason as why they wear extremely uncomfortable-looking clothes to the gym. What kind of clothes do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:52 AM

As a woman, I’ve embraced this mindset, and my relationships have been way more fulfilling because of it. If your advice works so well, you wouldn't have to refer to multiple past relationships. For each of your relationships that didn't end by death, either he broke his commitment to you despite you cooking and cleaning, or you broke your commitment. In the last case, your cooking and cleaning can definitely not compensate for your lack of loyalty, for any man who wants true commitment and isn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 03:38 PM
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So your god, who created women in his image, created women as inherently being egocentric and incapable of being loyal, having dignity or taking accountability? Maybe think a bit longer before you insult our Creator like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/24 11:55 PM
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No fighting age and able man can leave the country, regardless of whether they have kids. To be fair, this is not exactly true. Men who are raising at least three children below 18 or a disabled child below 18 are allowed to leave too. (That obviously doesn't change the fact that it is injustice that most men are forced to stay.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:47 PM
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Men who are actually doing work aren't all against women working in their sectors.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/24 05:40 PM
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No loyalty. No dignity. No accountability. Egocentrism and consumerism above all. There are definitely women like that in the west, and they unfortunately seem overrepresented in certain (digital) areas and seem to get a disproportionate big amount of attention, but I don't think they are a fair representation of "western women", at least when I consider my circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 12:16 AM
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So "western woman" equals being unapologetically misandrist and feminists, and unvirtous? All women born and living in the west are like that? If not, why are you using the term "western women"? How is a woman at fault for being born and living in the west?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:47 PM
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live similar lives like western women And that is? As a woman who is born and raised in a western country (so that makes me a "western woman", right?), how do I live, according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:37 PM
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No, most don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 11:28 PM
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There is also huge variation between behavior of women in the same country.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:50 PM
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What's horrible is when women make constant generalizations about men and how we're all evil rapists and how our existence is supporting the patriarchy. Why are you angry about something you do yourself? There are plenty of women in the west who don't negatively generalize men like that. Why do you generalize women like this? Do you think you deserve to be oppressed for negatively generalizing women? If not, why do you believe a woman deserves to be oppressed for negatively generalizing men, let…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:37 PM
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It's common to see men living in the west express sympathy towards women living in countries such as Saudi Arabia or Russia and how bad it is that they don't get the same privileges as women in the west. Saudi Arabia and Russia are not third world countries. How are women in Russia oppressed more than men in Russia? What freedom do Russian women lack? What behavior do "western women" display that Russian women don't? Women in third world countries would behave the same as western women if they h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:26 PM
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What about love, loyalty, trust, enjoying each others company, knowing each other? How does it make sense to analyze relationships while completely ignoring the foundations of good relationships? Women can expect consistent dates, flowers and gifts, just all around courting. How on earth is it possible for a woman to have "consistent dates" with a man without him also having "consistent dates" with her? Also, a woman getting "consistent flowers and gifts" in a relationship is just a Disney fanta…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:42 AM

You are the one on the puritanical crusade, all I did was ask you for your reasoning. The problem is your question isn't legitimate. You ask why I am being obsessed, while that is not the case. I have hardly said anything about porn in the comments above. Here again you claim I am on a "crusade", which is clearly emotional projection from your side, because where exactly is the crusade here?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 10:04 AM
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What has that to do with my comment above? It doesn't contain the word "unicorn" at all..
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/24 08:51 AM
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A core concept of redpill is AWALT (all women are like that). How is that any less dehumanizing than the idea that all women are wonderful and cannot do anything wrong? Why is it so hard to realize that indeed it is far from true that all women wonderful, while at the same time seeing that women are not all the same, that some are evil, some are wonderful, and others somewhere in between, just like men? I myself am not like how redpill describes women, and I know lots of women who are not like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/24 01:27 PM
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You make things up and get clearly angry when someone doesn't approve of porn. Why that anger about opinions of people you don't know? If you are truly interested in why I have my opinions, please ask in a respectful manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:59 PM

So what is it other than that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:49 PM

You also cannot stop people from saying "Me Too" and talking about their experiences. So why make stupid comments/posts like this? People telling that they too have experienced sexual abuse/harassment doesn't hurt you nor does it hurt society, and it may help victims to feel less ashamed and alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 07:18 PM
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What's with women on Reddit being obsessed with the porn viewership of random men they will never know and never meet? Please read your comment again and see who is the one here being obsessed with opinions of women you don't know and never meet.. It's almost like you shouldn't be trying to dictate the private lives of other people. I didn't do any of that in the comment above. Your comment on the other hand says what I "almost" should do, so very hypocritical. I am free to have and express my o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/24 09:55 PM
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I don't buy the first part. I'm not sure what you mean. Do you think women are discriminated against today in western countries? No, not really. There can obviously exist cases of some individual men discriminating women, but they are not discriminated/oppressed by law in western countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:26 AM
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But you are OK with feminism, big government, leftist etc? I don't call myself a feminist or leftist. People nowadays have wildly different definitions of "feminism" and "leftist", so those words same to have lost meaning. Life is way more complex than just "right" vs "left". You don't get to pick and choose what you like about a certain culture. Why not? Cannot a culture have bad sides and not so bad sides? Why wouldn't it be ok to disagree with certain sides while being ok with others sides of…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 11:19 AM
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OK, but current culture also says men can't have any expectations for women. Yes that is a problem too. This runs into contradictions on your end if you like modernity as a whole, which I'm assuming you do. Wrong assumption. I don't like "modernity" with regards to sex and relationships. I don't like how it is normalized to break up, have strings of relationships, and have sex without commitment for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 09:06 AM
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If we accept that women can pick what they want in a partner, and then also that men generally adapt to what woman want, women could simply demand a man who never watches porn. It isn't that simple. Women's "demands" are influenced by culture. Current culture tells people that porn is normal, that men need porn and that it is unreasonable to expect from a man to never watch porn again. Women who speak out against porn are shamed, called insecure and accused of misandry/not accepting that this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:58 AM
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I would if I thought porn did influence my view of women in a noticeable way but it doesn't How do you know it doesn't influence your view of women? Did you ever in your adult life not watch it for over a month?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:31 AM
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If someone who doesn't give up porn for a relationship is a porn addict, then yes, most men are porn addicts, because most men in relationships continue to watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:26 AM
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Most men watch porn because they are single That is a lie. Most men who aren't single also watch porn. Most men watch it anyway, whether they are single or not. The majority of young men aren't dating, so I don't know why this is relevant. It's relevant for young women who only want a relationship with a man who doesn't (continue to) watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:24 AM
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It seems like the obvious answer is yes with the exception for the porn addicts. Then the men who aren't porn addicts are the exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/24 08:20 AM
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Would you leave your child in such circumstances? Would it stop being your child? If you can be sure you wouldn't leave your child, why wouldn't it be possible to be sure you would not leave your husband either?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 03:19 AM
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Men are more often to leave a sick and disabled partner than the reverse. Source? I tend to get very attached to my partners so I probably would not So attached that you talk in plural? You are so attached to your partner that you will have other partners in the future? How does that work? but of course I've been in this situation to say for certain. It is possible to make a conscious decision to seriously commit and never leave him no matter the circumstances, instead of letting it depend on wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:29 AM
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Men are more likely to leave their sick & disabled spouses more than the other way around. Source? Many Ukrainian women are fleeing domestic violence. OP is talking about men who got left by their wives because they were forced to fight and got disabled. What has that to do with women fleeing domestic violence? Why do you accuse disabled Ukrainian men in general of committing domestic violence, without any evidence? Why would all those women just be poor victims of abuse? This is a war torn coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 02:17 AM
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I will never leave him.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/24 01:32 AM
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Did having a son make you more sympathetic to men's issues and more disturbed by the prevalence of mainstream open misandry? I don't have children (yet), but I have a husband and male family members, whom I all love and care about. I acknowledge that a significant part of mainstream media often unfairly depicts certain problems/events/statistics as women in general being poor, helpless victims and the men in general being bad perpetrators who should repent and change. But as much as those mainst…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:38 PM
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Most homeless people are men, and yet most shelters are for women only. What source do you have as evidence that more than 50% of homeless shelters are for women only?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 11:11 PM
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Women are not oppressed in the western world. Western men are not oppressors. We are not to blame for every issue in society. Sure. And men are not oppressed by women either. Western women are not oppressors. You are not a victim or oppressed by women simply for being a man as MRAs claim. You know who is truly oppressed? Homeless people. People caged in psychiatric hospitals, drugged against their will. Both these groups are 90% plus men. What source do you have that 90% of people who are wrongf…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/24 10:58 PM
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It is mostly not a big deal to me to hide it, I'm just worried how to deal with potential breastfeeding in the future. I don't want to be sexualized/objectified. It's unfortunate that several cultures have forgotten the main purpose of female breasts, namely to feed little babies, not to have adult men fetishize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 11:56 PM
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Does their "nature" with which they are created lead them to morally wrong behavior? Then, how is it their choice? If they just choose to behave morally bad, than why do you need to come up with some concept of "nature" to explain their choices? What does it mean that women all have the same nature (AWALT, a core concept of red pill)? * Does it mean women all engage in the same bad behaviours, forced by their nature? Then how is it their responsibility, when that is clearly just how they are cre…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 06:10 PM
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How is it a choice? Assuming all women have a "female nature" that is sinful, when did they choose to have that sinful female nature, according to you? Or, if they are just created with that "female nature" and thus cannot help it, how is that sinful, which implies responsibility? Would you also say that animals that eat other animals have a "sinful nature"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:48 PM
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What part of the question do you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:34 PM
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How can a "nature", something that is not a choice, be sinful?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:30 PM

>Modern Women Are Incapable of Accountability What is your definition of a "modern woman"? Most women will say something along the lines of “the options in men are terrible or every guy I date is a liar.” Do most women really do that? People are often more likely to express their discontent with something than to express that everything is fine. Women who don't have dated a string of terrible men, generally don't posts on social media to announce that they don't dated a string of terrible men. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 09:51 PM

Nullpointerexception. Weird how you write a whole book about how to find a "high value woman" and then ask questions like this, assuming those "high value women" don't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:18 PM
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Your mom used birth control? Yes. How is birth control a logical decision? It saved her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/24 10:11 PM
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Dispensing medicine is such hard work. Ah yeah, because that is all female nurses do, and the rest of their shift they just sit on their lazy ass and let those 2,2% of male nurses do all the physical work for them. Clearly fantasy land. They're asking guys like me who can deadlift 600 pounds. It surely must be hard having to lift "land whales" constantly during an email job. At least it would be way more efficient use of manpower than to waste all that power in the gym.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:29 PM
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Care to elaborate? Why do you believe being a vehicle technician, mechanic or electrician is necessarily more physically demanding than caring for elderly or sick people? There are also plenty of women doing physical labor on fields, often in poorer countries. Besides, women currently being less likely than men to do physical labor, doesn't prove that they generally prefer to depend for their life necessities on a loveless man in exchange for penetration, than do physical labor to try to avoid b…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:47 PM
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Not so high, about 5. Not so sure why you consider all of those statements on the checklist as undisputed privileges. Especially statement 9, what is a privilege about having been offered or having consumed drugs/alcohol in a social setting? Or what about a person whose only/main sexual experiences have been involuntary or by deceivement, how exactly are they privileged? Also, several statements overlap each other significantly or go hand in hand, so it should be no surprise that there are big d…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 09:16 PM
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Only difference is, i'm no scared to pickup a hammer and do hard physical labor whenever the AI revolution comes. You think women want to do those jobs? Why wouldn't they? Plenty of women do physical labor. A lot of women probably will prefer to do physical labor over letting some disgusting, loveless man penetrate them. Real life is not the same as porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 08:54 PM

Thanks for clarifying. I'm just tired of the extreme generalizations on this sub about men and women, and they only contribute to unnecessary polarization and make it seem like there is a "gender war". Well, there might be a "gender war", it's just that only a minority of people fight in that stupid war. Most people just live in peace with people of the other sex and don't resent/blame an entire sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/24 12:08 AM

The women blaming men. Then you should address them specifically in your post, instead of just women in general. but a woman going crazy on reddit is more likely to be a white woman Might be true, so what? That there are some crazy white women on reddit, isn't the fault of other women, whatever skin color they have. Accusing women in general of that behavior (claiming it is men's fault that trump is elected) is just as stupid as claiming it is men's fault that trump is elected. that's just using…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:40 PM

Do they just ignore that 45% of women voted for trump? Who is "they"? Just women in general? So 45% of women just ignore that they themselves voted for trump? Edit: especially if you they are a white woman themselves, how do you justify that kind of misandric hypocrisy? A white american women is way more likely to have voted for trump than to have gone crazy on reddit blaming men for the election. Ironically, you are doing the same as what you accuse others of: ignoring a huge part of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/24 11:27 PM
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Swipe on all women if you want that so badly, just don't blame women if they consider your attention worthless and meaningless, if clearly all you want is just a woman because she has a female body, and you don't care about what person she is and whether she is compatible with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:42 PM
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They clearly do not even like women. But they like women's bodies and we as women should be very thankful that we have "free" and unlimited access to being penetrated by people who are not interested in us beyond certain body parts, or even resent or despise us, and this clearly causes us to live on "easy mode". (Obviously a lot of men don't think like that, it's just that the shitty men with such views are overrepresented on this sub.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:39 PM
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Would you be happy to be "settled" for? Would you be glad if a woman only gets together with you, because she had no other options, and likes all other men just as much or even more than you? Would you like it if you would be nothing special for her? If your answer is no, then why would you expect a woman to have no problem with such scenarios and be glad with your "attention"? If you like all women on dating apps, your likes literally are worthless and mean nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:25 PM
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From themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:44 PM
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Who says the creepy man would not go after her if she left the bus and waited for the next bus? Staying in the presence of other people is the safest option in such scenario. Asking to sit next to someone who doesn't seem dangerous is not at all unreasonable and not at all the same as expected that person to physically fight for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:44 PM
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But when you consider other men dangerous or creepy, the men here also get outraged. Those kind of men get outraged when a woman doesn't want to sit next to him, because that must be because she considers him creepy and ugly while he is so, so nice, and they get outraged when a woman wants to sit next to him, because that must be because she wants him to literally risk his life for her. You cannot do it right for those men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:40 PM
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Says who? Those kind of creeps are just way less likely to assault someone when other people are present, than when they are alone with a woman. The presence of someone else often is enough. Nobody was asking OP to choke that staring man. You are just being dramatic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:23 PM
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that said staring is no assault yet so why is she afraid with other people around? Sure it is no assault, so why was OP afraid of the woman asking whether she can sit next to him? Why did he leave?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 12:18 PM
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What makes you believe there are no countries on earth that have draft except for those two (which btw?) European countries? What about for example Israel, Eritrea, South Korea and Colombia? What convinced you that those countries don't have draft/mandatory military service?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 11:59 PM
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Would you stay single rest of your life? Most probably yes, not just in the (unlikely) case that he would have died to save my life, but also in case of another cause of death.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 10:57 PM
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Only 2 countries? Which countries do you mean? And what source do you have for that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 04:24 PM
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Too bad you can't say what the destroyment of society would solve. We need to do the opposite - 8 billion people is way too much I just mean it may not even be possible to "start again" when society would be really destroyed and burned down.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:57 AM
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Men can give and take away rights but women cannot. Women have privileges and not rights in this sense. Yet they still bite the hand of the patriarchy that benevolently feeds them. ... Women are nothing but whiny little brats who want more privileges than whats already been granted. OP, would you enjoy it to depend on someone who considers you nothing but a whiny little brat? Would you believe someone who considers you nothing but a whiny little brat, cares for you and wants the best for you? In…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:40 AM
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There is an easy solution Solution to what problem exactly? destroy society; burn it down and start again Nah, I don't think that the destroyment of society would increase the fertility rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/24 06:24 AM

Not sure what everyone means with a "date". But why should everyone get so physically involved with others, without knowing each other properly, trusting each other and committing to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:52 PM

You make the mistake to think that all women are the same and all want to be treated the same by the same man. The funny thing is women will, at least eventually, go on dates with both these types, but apply a completely different set of expectations on them. Funny, because I haven't "dated" another man than my husband, so whatever "type" you would consider him, I definitely haven't dated with both those "types".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 03:48 PM
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I do care about it. I never wanted to be in a relationship with a (former) promiscuous man. I strongly preferred to marry a virgin. (Married now with a man who was indeed a virgin when we got together.)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:32 AM

Having problems setting boundaries is a general issue that rears it's head in different situations. She shouldn't go to her boyfriend to help fix that issue in this situation lol. She should go to someone who's educated in that field and even preferably a professional so that it doesn't create a weird parent child dynamic in your romantic relationship lol Telling your partner about your struggles and insecurities is normal in a healthy relationship and doesn't create a parent child relationship,…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:24 PM

The risk is too high for something with no reward What risk? I fail to see what would be the problem with telling this. If it bothers her, but she keeps it hidden from him, it will only create distance between them, which is more risky than just telling this, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:01 PM

The person above adviced you to not tell your boyfriend, but to be fair, I think its best to honestly tell him what happened and what makes you struggle with it. Of all people, he is the best person for you to ask advice for in this situation and he can probably help you to maintain your boundaries and not feel bad about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:52 PM

and don't tell your boyfriend about it until you have to Huh, why shouldn't she tell him?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 05:47 PM
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Now STFU and stop nitpicking that one stupid line of a study that you haven't even read. Did your parents teach you to bark at other people like this? I'm not your dog. I didn't write that "stupid line", I only cited it. I didn't read the whole study, because unfortunately I have no access to it, as I already said. By the way, if dark triads in men are so extremely popular among women as you believe, there wouldn't be guys raging on reddit like this, because they would be busy with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:11 PM
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The vast majority of women never desires cruel, violent men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:06 PM
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Ah, yes. So now research studies are "stupid". Not studies of hard sciences of course, but studies of soft sciences like psychology, yeah. Psychology can hardly be taken serious as a science, and certainly not to the extent people on this sub tend to do. Your gender is the definition of hypocrisy (along w/ Republicans). Pathetic. My gender? I'm not a word, so I don't have a gender. Gender in the way you use it, is a fantasy concept. The correct term would be "sex". And no idea what republicans h…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 04:05 PM
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Yeah did you find any? Any what? Your question is not clear. Nah, we believe the research not anecdotes. You could be lying too. This is ridiculous. There is no research that shows this holds for literally all women, or for me as an individual. I myself of course know that I am not lying. I know I'm not like that and that there are other women who are not like that, regardless of whatever results a stupid psychology study might find about part of women. Psychology studies have a replication prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/24 06:11 AM
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Shouldn't they have been screened for that kind of thing Good idea. Or maybe people who work in prisons, and especially the guards should just be of the same sex as the prisoner.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:25 PM
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The serial killers have people tha like them, and have intimacy with them, Those women are trashy people, not people a good guy should wish to be intimate with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 10:03 PM
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You're not getting it. It's you who is not getting it. Of course it is different. The money comes from bribes (which is money from bad people), stealing(commited by bad people) and other illegal activites. People don't want to be in the place of the politician, they just would rather have reality be fairer. The money itself is not different. Money is just money. The thing is "I want these women" but instead "I want the intimacy that these guys have". Even among serial killers, there is kissing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 09:45 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886916301015 The abstract says: "However, inconsistent with previous literature, younger women rated the low-scoring DT personality as significantly more favorable than the high-scoring DT personality." The rhetoric that RPers say, women will sleep with assholes first and then go for a good guy doesn't seem completely false, does it? It's definitely false to generalize this to all women. There are lots of women, including myself, who don…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:56 PM
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Poor people can be jealous of corrupt politicians, not because the money they have is dirty, but because the politicians have money while being criminals, while the law abiding citizen is poor. This is a bad analogy, because the money hasn't a will and cannot choose it's owner. Money in hands of corrupt politicians isn't any different from from money in other people's hands. Women however can choose their partner and women are not all the same. A woman who has never chosen for a bad boy, clearly…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:46 PM
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There is research pointing that Dark triad traits (Such as psychopathy) as causing sexual attraction to neurotypical women. There is also research that indicates the opposite: https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/personality-measurement/202311/is-the-attractiveness-of-dark-personalities-exaggerated https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886916301015 I can't read the whole study, but if I am reading it correctly, even this study you cited finds the opposite of what you cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:37 PM
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There’s plenty of women with nothing wrong with them but their taste in men It's unlikely that there is nothing wrong with a woman, if she again and again falls for bad men. At best she is terrible naive. The majority of women hasn't been together with bad men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:51 PM
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Maybe because the women whom desire such guys more than you, are not worth you? Because you deserve better than that kind of trashy women and don't want such women?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:36 PM
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Are they really mentally ill because they want to have sex with a man that is attractive? Yes, if they know the man is a serial killer and still want to have sex with him, they are definitely mentally ill. I think calling them mentally ill is a lazy way of not analyzing the fact that many normal women are sexually attracted to dangerous, bad men. Nah, there is clearly something wrong with those women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 07:33 PM

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/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:42 PM
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This is just ridiculous. Lots of couples get together in college or even earlier, and the vast, vast majority of women doesn't do that. Young women generally don't expect a young man in college to have lots of money.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 02:04 PM

/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:33 PM

/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 12:08 PM

/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:58 AM

/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:28 AM

I'm married now, but when I was still single, I felt lonely. A "support network"/family/friends of course can help feeling less lonely at times, but for me personally they cannot fill the place of a husband/boyfriend and prevent me from completely not feeling lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/24 08:03 AM

People can choose for themselves how much time and money they spend on clothing, makeup, the gym, etc.. Complaining that someone else spends less time and money on such stuff, while it's your own choice to spend so much on it, is just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:35 PM

There are beauty stores for a reason. That reason is that a significant part of women is interested in such stuff. It's not because they would be unable to find a husband without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 05:11 PM

Im a hypocrite, i live in the blood on my hands , as long as it suits me - idc That's very sad. I wish you will get your conscience back someday. My morals adapt to give me the best individual outxome I don't believe your current promiscuous lifestyle will even give you individually the best outcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 03:12 PM

For a relationship, probably Which you don't want as you said. So a woman's past clearly doesn't matter for getting commitment from you, because no matter how low her body count, you would never seriously commit to her. I dont want kids, but if I did - the mother to my children cant be one that got her pussy beat up by mofos that werent me Why not? You did the same with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:58 PM

To me, not that I ever want a LTR or marriage, So why would a woman's past matter to you personally? Would you treat a woman with a low body count any better than a woman with a high body count? You clearly will never commit to a woman regardless of her past. So why this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/24 02:41 PM
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What "fantasy view"? I am always glad to see happy married couples in today's society. Sincerely all the best to you It doesn't sounds sincere at all, considering what you wrote after that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:15 PM

This also means any harm they face due to their selection is consequence of their own choice. Not according to this post. According to this post, women don't have a choice, they are just a marionette of "mother nature"/"natural selection". (For clarity: this are not my own view, but OP's view apparently.)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:11 PM

This world and humanity will not exist forever. So you will either directly or indirectly end up as a "genetic dead end" anyway. With your reasoning we could as well call humanity and all life on earth a failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:05 PM

Women get pregnant so they have a higher burden to reproduction. This increased risk means they must be picky when selecting men Not everything some women select for minimalizes their risks. I think it is wrong to shame men who don't get selected by women because being unchosen is a consequence of natural selection that we all must accept. They indeed shouldn't be shamed for it. It's not (just) because of natural selection though. Some women make bad choices with regards to men, some women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 04:01 PM
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I do not see any successful long-term relationship, where the intimacy is either consistently bad, or even non-existing. Intimacy is not necessarily sex, and sex often is not treated as intimate, but as selfish lust that needs to be satisfied in time and as something that more important than the actual relationship with the other. Unfortunately, for a woman to enjoy sexual intimacy, feeling secure and free of obligation is probably THE BIGGEST factor. A good man, like your boyfriend seems to be,…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/24 11:28 PM
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I personally can't see getting hung up about whether or not I was the father to a fetus unless I had reasons to be suspicious. Why would that change after birth? Particularly with "verify" on queue to happen in 9 months, the potential losses are very limited. Ah, you just trust the verification, if I understand you correctly. However, that is clearly different from trusting your wife, the mother of your child(ren). So point remains that "trust, but verify" is just the same as "verify".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 10:01 PM
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By your reasoning, you are yourself emotionally unstable, because you don't care about why someone would (continue to) disagree with you and consider it offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:35 PM
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Someone can have a conversation with you and listen to your reasons and still disagree with you and consider it offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:28 PM
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It is not emotionally unstable to feel offended by something that is an offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:24 PM
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It's clear paternity tests involve "verify". Where do they involve "trust" though? "trust, but verify" just means "verify". If you want to have children with someone you don't trust, you do you, but others are free to have other standards and principles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/24 09:15 PM
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I sincerely wish that men could give birth in lieu of women. Then we wouldn't see infanticide enacted en masse since a much larger portion of men actually seem to care about their children. Not so sure about that. There are clearly lots of men who don't care at all about their children, otherwise they would not want to be promiscuous. A man who cares about his children, would not risk putting his child in the womb of a woman who doesn't care about her/his child. A man who truly cares about his (…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 03:43 PM
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For instance, I saw a post on AITA where a guy was asking if he was in the wrong for being uncomfortable with his girlfriend wearing a g-string bikini to the beach. His girlfriend freaked out on him and told him that he was controlling what she wanted to wear, and the comment sided with the woman. It's ridiculous. I agree with you that it's ridiculous. To me it's understandable that he is not comfortable with it, and besides that, expressing feelings of discomfort or maintaining one's own bounda…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/24 07:04 AM

But women are hiding go-bags from their husbands. I don't know anyone who does. Are those husbands justified in feeling hurt or not? Should they view such things as accusations of their character? Yes, of course. It is an accusation. Both go-bags and paternity tests have no place in a healthy marriage with mentally healthy spouses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 10:19 PM
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Those men here want a loyal virgin/low body count woman who accepts being treated as a whore by him. When the chaste women they want don't accept such treatment, they try to manipulate them by whining about misandry and accusing them of lack of empathy for his insanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 01:13 PM
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But govt do not want to stop paternity fraud otherwise they would be sending women who commit paternity fraud to jail in droves. Perpetrators of paternity fraud deserve jail. Normal people don't treat/consider their own spouse as a crime suspect without any reason though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:58 AM
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Some women who are financially reliant on their male partners, especially those who are stay at home wives/mothers, keep a secret “get-away” fund. This is a secret bank account with enough money to support herself for a short time should her husband ever become abusive. A marriage in which the wife hides such for her husband clearly is not a healthy marriage. Sometimes the husband will find out about this secret stash and feel hurt. He feels that his wife doesn’t trust him. She must think he’s s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 08:34 AM
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Trust is necessary condition for paternity Fraud So the solution is to never trust anyone, not even the person you are closest with, and with whom you want to have children and raise your children? Having sex also is a necessary condition for paternity fraud. So the solution is to never have sex? Having a child is a necessary condition for losing a child. So the solution is to never have a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/24 07:25 AM
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My views on sex are incompatible with someone who watches porn (regardless of how it was produced). I also would not feel sufficiently at ease to marry and have sex with a man who watches porn (regardless of how it was produced).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/24 06:53 AM
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It's the adversarial mindset that annoys me. I'm not sure what you mean or how this answers my question. Who has an adversarial mindset? It was so much simpler with my first girlfriend. I knew she liked me, she knew I liked her, we went on a date and while I was driving her home we agreed to be boyfriend and girlfriend. Bing, bang boom. Did you agree to stay together for life at that moment? Did you know and trust each other well enough to marry each other back then? As long as you are not both …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/24 12:31 AM
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Sex is the closest you can get to someone physically, and it generally involves a chance on having a child together. How is it ridiculous to treat it accordingly, as something intimate that you only share with one person?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:52 PM
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And plenty don't. Sex is the closest you can get to someone physically, and it generally involves a chance on having a child together. It is ridiculous to not treat it accordingly, with care and as something very intimate that you only share with one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:51 PM
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How do you explain to your children that their mother was ran through? How do you explain to your daughters that daddy was "ran through" or has made other women "ran through" and thus wrecked other people? How do you explain to your daughters that their daddy loves sluts, but just needed an incubator who wasn't "ran through" to build his dynasty?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 10:39 PM
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Sure that would be insane, but its not that (allmost) all men are like that or like OP, so using this scenario to justify that men shouldn't complain when women don't want them is quite disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:36 AM
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Love is necessary for sex ie great sex. Sex is necessary for love. You can’t choose one without the other. You still would need to prioritize one or the other. What has to be there first for you, love or sex? And would you stop loving your partner if your partner cannot have sex anymore (e.g. due to an chronic or progressive illness or an accident), or would you stay faithful by their side?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:17 AM
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You can't have romantic love without sex. That you are unable to love without sex, doesn't mean that no one can. Considering that there are quite some people (including myself) who didn't have sex outside of marriage or a stable intimacy relationship, there are clearly people who are able to have romantic love without sex. Sex is a prerequisite for love. For you apparently. For me it's the opposite: Love is a prerequisite for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 08:08 AM
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Women file 80 percent of the divorces and divorce rate is 50 percent The real percentage are a bit lower, but even using these percentages, it means that 60 percent of married women do not file for divorce. So why would those 60 percent deserve to be left by their husband for a younger woman? Why would women who don't do all of what you mention in your post (such as filing for divorce, spending excessive amounts of money, being lazy), deserve to be left by their husband for a younger woman? We l…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:23 AM
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That's fine, but don't get all up in arms when men shame obese women or refuse to date them. Or promiscuous women, or single mothers. Who says I do? I have never said men should date certain women. That's your prerogative, but you are under no authority to enforce your views on others. The moment you needlessly and baselessly insult others for believing differently you become no better than a raging religious lunatic. What is the point of this post, other than convincing people of those views, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 11:04 PM
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Remember: Basically none of the "social studies" in the last 15 years are replicable. Which makes them the textbook definition of pseudoscience. And yet, nearly all of the "evidence" of the alleged harm porn inflicts comes exactly from these "social studies" that can't be replicable and are subjected to the wider replicability crisis. And yet, nearly all of the "evidence" for red pill comes from similar pseudoscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:51 PM
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You mention a lot of things that I didn't suggest at all. I just pointed out that even if porn use would decrease sexual crimes, that would not make porn use any less repulsive, dehumanizing and immoral. I didn't say anything about legal measurements let alone violating everyone's privacy in order to check what stuff they watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:35 PM
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If you can generate child porn using AI and we have a proof that it is a good substitute then why not ? What dataset would be needed to generate that stuff with AI? It is repulsive - Well, yeah, that is my point. Even if it would cause a decrease in sexual crimes, it would not be any less repulsive. It is very tempting to punish people that are doing something we consider immoral, or at least disgusting - but these people are there, you cannot erase them. I haven't said anything about punishing …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:29 PM
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You mean CSAM. AI generated (that hasn't been trained on actual CSAM) yes. As long as no real children have been harmed I'm OK with it. They are harmed by it. As another person already pointed out, there would be a dataset needed of victims. Besides that, it harms children to be sexualized. Why do you ask? I asked to show that even if porn would decrease sexual crimes, it still would not mean that it is not wrong and disgusting. Do you think each and every woman making porn (including OF) haven'…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:25 PM
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Yeah, it is discouraging and disgusting that porn is so normalized in too many parts of society that you are considered crazy if you speak out against porn. Way too many women nowadays are pushed into accepting the porn consume of their husband/boyfriend, even when they are not comfortable with it, if they would be completely honest with themselves. I think it is important to encourage women and girls to never give up or compromise on their own boundaries no matter what and no matter how pitiful…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:10 PM
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People should be allowed, legally morally, and socially, to masturbate You don't get to decide what other people consider moral. I consider jerking off to porn immoral, whether you like it or not. I would not want to be married to a man who jerks off to porn. I would not feel safe enough to have sex with a man who jerks off to porn. I consider jerking off to porn as disgusting. I believe strongly that any society or ideology that seeks to ban, condemn, or shame such a simple form of sexual expre…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 09:36 PM
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Drawn child pornography or, a more recent phenomenon, AI generated child pornography (as long as it doesn't recreate any real individuals), yes. I would still not want my children to be near to someone who consumes child porn, even if it is AI generated and may lower the chance of him/her commiting sexual crimes against children. A bit similarly, I also wouldn't want to be in a relationship/marriage with a man who consumes porn. But it's like drugs to me. Repression doesn't work and causes many …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:51 AM
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Another man insulting men. If all men had such a disgusting, degenerate mentality with regards to sex, it would be best for women to be single and celibate forever. Why would any sane woman want to be sexually used and humiliated like that? Luckily, I know plenty of men are not like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:29 AM
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From what I've seen, there is a nothing indicating that porn makes someone more likely to sex offend. And that there's research that it may lead to a decrease in sexual crimes. Would you condone child pornography for pedophiles if it decreases the amount of sexual crimes against children?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:20 AM
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Does porn cause dehumanisation and sexual violence, or are those natural human tendencies that then shape porn making it a proxy to these actions and managing would be abusers ? Whether porn causes dehumanization or whether porn is a result of dehumanization, in both scenarios porn is dehumanizing. and that porn actually helps manage sexual aggression in the population. Would you use a similar argument to defend the consume of child pornography for pedophiles?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 10:12 AM
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Nonsense. Most boys (and also a lot of girls) discover porn and start watching porn when they are still way too young to have sex. The majority of men still use porn when they are in a committed relationship. Besides that, the attitude of "when you don't give me sex, I am forced to jerk off to women in pornography" is pathetic and disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:44 AM
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As some others already said, "making men wait for sex" is a misleading phrase. Sex is the most intimate physical thing that people can do together, and it involves a chance on having children together. Personally, I have never desired to have sex with someone with whom I would not stay together for life. I only felt safe enough to have sex, once I knew my boyfriend would never leave me. I didn't want a man who reluctantly waited for sex because I socalled "made him wait for it", I wanted a virgi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 04:25 PM
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In another comment, you told you were raped multiple times (by women if I understand correctly) and that people don't take that serious. So just wondering, why do you claim men are the ones who use women for physical intimacy and women use men for emotional intimacy, when your own experiences don't match that narrative? Also, how is it possible to "use someone for emotional intimacy"? How could you be emotional intimate with someone who doesn't want to be emotional intimate with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 10:28 AM
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Then please explain that difference and the relevance of it in this context to all those dumb people who are still in ignorance about this important topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:07 PM
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Well, it's clear you don't understand the concept of falsifiability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:04 PM
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How is your belief that all women are lying all the time falsifiable? What could theoretically convince you that a woman is not lying?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:55 PM
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Again, the "truth" you believe, is in no way falsifiable. FYI: A theory or hypothesis is falsifiable (or refutable) if it can be logically contradicted by an empirical test.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:51 PM
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How is that falsifiable dude??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:42 PM
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It's just a way for him to stroke his ego by convincing himself he is morally or intellectually far superior to all those plenty of men who are in relationships, because "of course" those men must be either bad or just stupid "beta bux".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:41 PM
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You can believe whatever you want, just realize that your beliefs that women all are attracted to bad boys, and that those who don't "admit" it, are lying, is in no way falsifiable. There is no way for a woman to convince you she isn't attracted to bad boys, because you will just claim she is lying until she agrees with you. And your belief that female victims of rape deserve to be blamed themselves because according to you women just want and fantasize about it, is disgusting. Someone who belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:30 PM
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Are you unable to read my comment that stated the majority of women doesn't have an abusive partner or ex? Are you unable to read that those who have/had abusive partners, in quite some cases had that because they were abused as children and unfortunately don't no any better? Why have you so much trouble with nuance?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:42 PM
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How do you conclude that from my comment? Did you even read my comment? Read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:34 PM

Sounds more like certain men here are attracted to drama queens..
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:49 AM

If you don't see what is disgusting about suggesting female victims of rape or sexual assault should be blamed for it because "they just wanted it themselves" according to your stupid belief, then you are such a degenerated soul that I don't know what to say anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 11:48 AM

The post is literally about bad/toxic men. How is a man dangerous if he is not bad? And how is a bad man not dangerous?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:03 AM

What a disgusting comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:56 AM

So it cannot possibly be the case that a woman doesn't fantasize about bad men? If there is nothing that could theoretically convince you that a woman doesn't secretly fantasize about bad men, your belief is not falsifiable. You can obviously continue to believe it, just realize that the belief is your choice, and not based on something you can verify.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:54 AM
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However, it's commonly known that women are abused and treated badly by the men they chose far more than by random strangers. This is due to the fact that an intimate partner has much more possibility to harm you (emotionally and physically) than a stranger. There are also quite some women (and men) who have experienced abuse long before they became adults, and who sometimes because of that don't know what a healthy relationship looks like and that they deserve to be treated better. Also, the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:39 AM
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And just for the record, this is moreso directed to liberal feminist types or feminist-learning individuals. But anyone with an opinion on it is free to state it, don't let that discourage you. I don't call myself a feminist, but will still answer the question. I am talking about women who do this to exploit male sexuality for their own gain on a larger scale, like a pornstar, sex worker, or OnlyFans model. Why don't women try to stop women who continue to perpetuate this harmful cycle of hypers…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:21 AM
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social skills (i.e., personality, character, charisma, behavior ) What kind of personality/character and what behaviour equals being "socially skilled"? It's also patently obvious to anyone with basic logic abilities or who has interacted with people in real life, that social skills are incredibly important for making people like you and get along with you, in relationships or otherwise. The problem is equating being "socially skilled" with being a good and kind person. Bullies in school are mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:34 PM
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I would not want a relationship with a man, whose only/primary reason for having a relationship with me is "access to sex". I would not want a relationship with a man who prioritizes sex above all else in a relationship/marriage and who will leave me or be unfaithful as soon as I am somehow not able to have sex with him. A emotional connection can increase physical attraction, by the way. Apparently it doesn't work like that for everyone, but for me it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:56 PM
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So people usually develop an deep emotional connection in a relationship, but they cannot possible desire a relationship for that deep emotional connection with someone who is compatible with them? The most important initial motivation always is sex for men and money for women? Doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:29 PM
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that’s usually where we start to develop genuine feelings and appreciate the woman for her integrity and emotional value she brings to our life. And do you think women usually also develop genuine feelings and appreciate the man for his integrity and emotional value he brings into her life? Or do you believe only men are capable of that and every woman stays a "golddigger" forever?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:16 PM
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You are literally contradicting yourself multiple times: without a doubt, that men don’t care what his dates / LTR prospect income is If you’d ask 100 men, I’d say 60 will say “she just has to have a job.”. The rest will say “she just has to have a job that she finds purposeful and fulfills her” So do men not care about the income of a woman, even if it is zero, or do they want her to have at least a minimum wage income? What is it? Every woman is a gold digger… If you’d ask 100 women, I’d say a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 10:00 PM
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Ironically, red pill's idea of the "female nature" is not at all "pushover, non assertive and nice". Something is inconsistent here...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 06:00 PM
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it seemed to me that they have the same views, What are those views? Which views make someone a redpiller, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:05 PM
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Why would you consider them redpillers?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 04:00 PM
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Christianity is not at all the same as red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:58 PM
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How do you know women consider themselves mind-readers? Can you read minds? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 03:50 PM
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while holding women accountable and encouraging them to be productive members of society as opposed to useless, cuddled, vindictive and selfish parasites that they are now. Based on what do you not consider women productive members currently? What do you consider "productive" and what should change in order for you to consider women productive members of society? In your opinion, should they work exactly the same amount of hours on a paid job as men on average? Should they birth and raise more c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 05:26 PM
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Marrying and/or having sex with someone with whom one doesn't feel at ease, is a bad idea, regardless of whether family/friends are present at the wedding. A sane person doesn't get aroused by the thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 07:06 PM
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Legally binding myself for sex to a stranger, who has contempt for women and doesn't believe me because I don't fit into his stupid idea of how all women are, definitely would not make me feel safe or ensure my well-being.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:38 PM
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All women get turned off by safety and certainty. So one woman is sufficient to prove you are wrong. Well, it is not the case for me, so you are wrong. Women who waited with sex until marriage and are not in a dead bedroom their whole marriage prove you are wrong. Stop spreading lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 11:13 AM
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And who are those streets? Men who have sex with promiscuous women, men who are promiscuous themselves. Women who are not promiscuous, don't belong to "the streets", so they don't belong to those promiscuous street-men who sleep around with the promiscuous women. A sane, decent, non-promiscuous woman doesn't want a man who is part of those streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 05:58 AM

Do women give a shit that men are loney? No they do not. No, some do, some don't. I feel for both lonely men and lonely women, because I have been lonely myself. There probably is just nothing I can do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:46 PM

I've been told by women in PPD that single women aren't lonely; they have close friend networks to replace the intimacy provided by a partner. They are very arrogant to speak for all women. I'm not single anymore, but when I was still single, I felt very lonely and did very much wish to have a boyfriend/husband who would really love me, accept me completely, and stay with me for life. I didn't have a close friend network either, never really had that, and I for me, no friend can fill the place o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:43 PM
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men who fuck many women are in their biological imperative, it makes them successful males. No, it shows they are unreliable, immoral, irresponsible and very egoistic, especially if they believe it is damaging for women to have sex without commitment. Those men are despicable. that a man can only be a slutmaker, and it is true How nobel. You are damaging men, women and children by being a "slutmaker".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:28 PM
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Yes, with their wives. Well, then it is the case that those men "get laid" the most. Men in marriage or a relationship have on average more frequently sex than men who are not in a relationship. So clearly women want reliable men who commit more than those unreliable men who have sex but never commit. You know dead bedrooms are a thing right? And, their primary victims are beta chumps who thought his girl was making him wait was because he was special. There can be several reasons why couples ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 04:16 PM
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So if women Machiavellianism is what women want to preach then should follow suit. If that is really what all women want, there wouldn't exist so many sociopathic incels within the manosphere. (Don't accuse me of claiming all incels are sociopaths, because that is clearly not what I say.) There is a narrative that all incels are poor, innocent, holy, nice guys, but seeing what quite some of them write on the internet, that is clearly not the case. Incels are not all mean misogynists, but they ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 11:06 AM
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If OP is right, there would be lots of women wanting to have sex with you, because this mentality is downright sociopathic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:58 AM
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If all women really are so cruel as you claim, if none of them has any sympathy and the ability to understand you, if they are all mean to you for no reason at all, why are you still obsessed with getting such a terrible being?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:52 AM
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It is impossible to have a healthy family with a man who only cares about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:45 AM
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Would that make you more concerned about body count than you currently are? No, I already wanted to marry a virgin man with similar values.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:39 AM
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The problem is making those issues about only one sex. Loneliness is not reserved to men. There are plenty of men who are not lonely. There are plenty of women who are lonely. Just like lack of safety is not a uniquely female issue and had more to do with where you live, than what your sex is. My view though is that, you never know the pain and suffering someone has gone through and you often never know how much easier some people have it. Yet, you assume women cannot be just as lonely as you, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 10:27 AM
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You arent going to find a long term relationship in 2024 at my age. There are plenty of people of all adult ages in long term, stable relationships in 2024. Your comments show a total lack of responsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:28 AM
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Coz if their word's matched their actions, nice guys have been getting laid all the time So if women really wanted reliable monogamous men, then reliable monogamous men would be getting laid all the time? and criminals would be virgins. Most female criminals are not virgins either. Most female inmates have children. Does that mean all men are attracted to female criminals and would want to have children with those women?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/24 06:23 AM
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All I got was the woman I loved more than anything tell me she prefers experienced men. After 4 fucking months. 4 months after what? 4 month after you committed to each other for life? 4 months after you had sex together? 4 months after something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 09:08 PM
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I bought this crap since childhood. Don't believe in it. Brings you nothing. What exactly do you mean with "this crap"? What brings you nothing? What did you expect it to bring bring you? It gets lonely when you don't find someone with your values. So the solution is to just throw your values away?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 08:15 PM

but knowing no matter what that you have the ability to support yourself well without being reliant on someone else is priceless. Sure, it is nice if you are be able to support yourself and good to strive for. That isn't for everyone in every moment of their life possible though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:17 PM
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Wanted to sleep with many different ladies, enjoy their company and have great and genuine sex. So summarized: You would genuinly want to treat sex as something intimate that you only do with someone you with whom you are in mutual lifelong commitment. But because by doing that, you don't achieve to "sleep with many different ladies", society forces you to adapt and treat sex as something not intimate by having casual sex. You see, that doesn't make any sense at all. Disagree; for example, cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 07:07 PM

Doesn't make sense, a cheater clearly is not trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:32 PM

It's better to be forever alone than to have a family with such a despicable man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:31 PM

Indeed. And not only she herself is at risks of being infected, he could infect their unborn baby as well, in case she is pregnant. How "high value" to destroy your own family. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:17 PM

A cheating man isn't value, but despicable. If you promise to be faithful, you should be faithful. If you don't want to be faithful, don't deceive others into believing you will be faithful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:12 PM

Why would you marry in the first place, if you want to divorce as soon as you feel "unhappy"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:07 PM

But always have an escape plan This is not a healthy mentality in a healthy marriage/relationship. If you feel you need an "escape plan", you probably are in a marriage/relationship you shouldn't be in in the first place, either because the other really isn't trustworthy, or because you are not ready for it (yet).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 06:00 PM

You don't have to worry about marriage. Don't marry if you don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:54 PM
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Well, I would love to. Genuinely I would. In actual fact, I did. If I stayed in that same mindset of specialness and fairytales, I would be stuck achieving nothing What did you want to achieve? What have you achieved now by adapting I do not see any pros to being better than society? Often, its those who regularly break societys "rules of moral right and bad" that get rewarded. Rewarded with what? Lots of people who severely break "rules of moral right and bad" are rewarded with prison. What kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 03:42 PM
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What frustrates the men more is when women deny this strategy and say that they truly are attracted to “safety guys” when they are truly not attracted to them. Nah, it's frustrating when people claim all women have that "dual mating strategy" and no woman sincerely desires to get together with a reliable man who is compatible with her. It's also frustrating when desire is reduced to a lust that has to come immediately upon seeing a body. It doesn't work like that for everyone. It's frustrating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 02:57 PM
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Then be better than society. If everyone has the same fatalistic mentality, nothing will ever improve. Besides, that adaption is not worth it anyway, if you would actually value sex as something so intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 11:32 AM
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Sex is the most intimate thing you can share with another person. Then treat it accordingly and don't do it with someone you with whom you are not in mutual lifelong commitment and with whom you are not the most emotionally intimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 10:27 AM
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Maybe read my whole comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:42 AM
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but just because society has let women walk away from traditional roles You are very selective with what you call "traditional". It isn't traditional for a man either to sleep around, or have a series of sexual relationships before marriage. On the other hand, it is traditional to expect your wife to bear your children and prioritize your career over her own. If you as a man have a better career or are further in your career because of age, and expect your wife to bear your children, I think it …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 05:39 AM
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The reality is the current college to career model kills fertility. It needs massive reform based on incentivizing or even requiring family formation to occur before or in parallel with college attendance. How could young couples have the monetary means to afford housing big enough for the both of them and multiple children, before or in parallel with attending college?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 10:59 AM

If I would still be single, I would wish to be a man. Other than being physically stronger and being able to have a child without pregnancy and giving birth, not for the reasons you listed though. Other reasons: it would be great not having to struggle with periods and iron deficiency and it would be great not so much having to fear being sexualized. Also for some other reasons, but they are rather personal, I'm not comfortable with mentioning them here. I don't want be a man now I am together w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/24 07:27 AM
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That would be okay, I think, I just wonder how much of a difference that would make compared to the current situations in countries in which the man can freely choose to do a paternity test.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 10:37 PM
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Honest question, who are all those plenty of people who disagree with this post? I currently only see two people disagreeing with this post, one of which who is known for crazy posts here and one who seems a troll.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:47 PM
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Mother should have to pay back child support too. I agree with that. Honestly, government should just make paternity tests mandatory, it’d remove the stigma of a man asking for one. No, this is a violation of people's rights and bodily autonomy. Do you think the government also should make STD tests mandatory?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:24 PM
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men and women are fundamentally different which shapes our experiences/viewpoints Fundamentally different in what regards? Do you think they are so different that there is nothing they have in common, and no subject in which a man and a woman could possibly understand each other? And why do you think people of the same sex all can empathize which each other, as if there are no differences between people of the same sex? Do you think people's sex is the only thing that fundamentally shapes someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 04:26 PM
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I said it was not possible for men/women to put themselves in the same shoes of the opposite sex Why would the ability to put oneself in someone else's shoes stop at the moment they are of the other sex? I can still emphasize with other men since l know the struggles of being the same gender as them, same is true with wome Most of the struggles in people's lives are not sex-specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 03:35 PM
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You said it is not possible for people to put themselves in other people's shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:58 PM
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Men and women can't emphasize with each other since that requires putting ourselves in each other's shoes which is just not possible That would mean no one can empathize with anyone else, regardless of whether the other is of the same sex or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 02:53 PM
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I think it's significantly worse than simply looking at taxes would indicate. I agree that just looking at taxes doesn't give the full picture. Not sure whether it is worse in that case though. What makes you think it is worse in that case? Taxes are an estimation of what you're actually trying to measure which is contribution to society. But it often is not objectively clear what is a contribution, let alone how contributions should be measured. For example, is a woman birthing children contrib…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:51 PM
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Personally I am against abortions in most cases (I know, it's a very unpopular opinion here), whereas I am not a man refusing to raise children that are not his. So I don't agree with the part of the title that says: the argument given against men's refusal to raise children that arent theirs is at its core, identical to the pro-life stance against abortion, As you already pointed out, there is a very important difference that in most cases a pregnancy is the result of a woman's (and man's!) cho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:59 AM
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No. Maybe just read my comment instead of making things up?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 05:25 AM
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I'm seriously considering looking for some roommates, but really, it's hard to find working professionals that have a relative lifestyle to mine. I wonder what all those men here who claim all women have lots of serious options for men and cannot be really lonely, would say to that.. I mean, if it is already difficult to find a suitable, compatible roommate, how wouldn't it be difficult to find someone suitable, compatible to share your whole life and body with, and maybe have children with? Exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:21 PM
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opportunity to do so in the first place, something all woman have access to. It really doesn't work that way that the moment a woman turns eighteen she has a row of reliable, compatible men waiting to pair up with her. A woman can desire a relationship with a reliable man with similar values, beliefs, wishes for the future, and a compatible personality. It costs time to find and get to know such a person and some unfortunately may never find a compatible person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 10:05 PM
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So would you be fine with women pairing up on paper, for the sake of not being punished? Or do you think they should also be punished for dead bedrooms, and be more or less forced into having sex with someone they don't feel at ease with for the sake of "fairness"?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 09:59 PM
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This what you said: “ serious risk to the mother's life or health.” Not extraordinary, “serious." Sorry for not using the word "extraordinary" the first time. That's what I meant. With regards to the rest: if you don't want to get pregnant, make sure you don't get pregnant. I am in no way forcing you to get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 06:12 PM
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Wow, this is a whole new level of fat-shaming. What is fat-shaming about mentioning that obesity is unhealthy and increases certain risks? Do you have any credible data to link obesity during pregnancy to maternal fatalities? Yes: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33093597/ "The risk of maternal death increases with BMI; it multiplied by 1.6 in overweight women and more than tripled in pregnant women with severe obesity. Training clinicians in the specificities of care for pregnant women with obes…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:57 PM
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I'm not sure what your point is. I'm not forcing anyone to get pregnant and have children. you’re simply making stuff up in an effort to support your beliefs. What stuff did I make up? You don't think the high obesity rate plays a role in the relatively high maternal mortality rate in the USA, when obesity is literally a risk factor? It's probably not the only factor, but do you really think isn't a factor at all? Obviously that doesn't mean that every woman who dies or has severe complications …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:27 PM
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You're on a whole other tangent now. No, I honestly don't understand why you say that In context of requiring financial support, which is what the thread is about, a child exists when its born. Maybe read the thread again. In the beginning of this thread, you said abortion is a valid option. As a response to that I asked you at what point a child comes into existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:40 PM
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supporting abortion access doesn't mean you can't place limits on that access I never said that though. The person I responded to was the one who claimed that the child only exists when it is born, hence my response/questions. you are being disingenuous Next time, please see the context.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:25 PM
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The United States has the worst maternal* mortality rate in the developed world. They also have the worst obesity rate in the developed world. But yeah, I am all for improving maternity care. And if you personally consider a pregnancy too risky, make sure you don't get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:10 PM
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How isn't it cruel to deny the humanity of unborn children? You think a mother should have the right to abort her baby at for example 35 weeks pregnant?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:58 PM
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Sorry, wrong thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:56 PM
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How does that work when the father isn't even informed by the mother that he has a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:45 PM
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What a cruel view on unborn children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:43 PM
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They not indeed, the lawmakers or law enforcers on the other hand...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:41 PM
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It's would be very disingenuous to pretend all pregnancies are equally risky. The vast majority of pregnancies are not extraordinary risky. If you consider a normal pregancy too risky, make sure you don't get pregnant.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:38 PM
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What if he is a victim of rape, but it just cannot be proven?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:25 PM
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Why should they be allowed to have a financial abortion, but fathers not?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:20 PM
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At what point does the child come into existence?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:17 PM
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As a single mother you could give up your child for adoption, and thus in fact have a "financial abortion".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:16 PM
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Men cannot control what women do. They can only control what they do. But you think women/the government should control what men do?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:09 PM
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If the father wants nothing to do with it he should make sure he doesn't get anyone pregnant. Yes, and same for women. If they don't want a child, they should make sure they don't get pregnant. So no need for an abortion, unless in case of rape, or serious risk to the mother's life or health.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 01:05 PM
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If you really do believe that children have an inalienable right to support from both of their biological parents, Yes, I do believe children have the moral right to support from both their genetic parents. That support is more than just financial support by the way. then by that logic sperm donors and egg donors would be responsible for paying child support for their biological offspring. Ridiculous Nah, sperm and egg donation is ridiculous in the first place. Probably an unpopular opinion, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 12:56 PM
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Nah, lesbians have a significantly higher divorce rate than straight couples, and gay men have significantly more casual sex than straight people on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:37 PM
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Can men and women be "just" friends" I think they can, as long as they don't come too emotionally close to each other, but keep a certain distance. In group friendships that is often easier than in one-on-one friendships. How do you feel about your SO having friends of the opposite sex? I would be okay with it in group settings or if we would together be friends with a woman. I would not be really comfortable with him being close friends with a woman one-on-one. Friends with ex's? Friends with f…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/24 10:18 PM
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If a best friend is someone who you can really trust, who you can be vulnerable and close with and who loves you for your presence, then it would be best the woman you spend your life with and may have children with, is such a best friend, right? Why would you want to be together with a woman you cannot trust, be vulnerable with and who doesn't love you for who you are?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 10:05 PM
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To address your last point, it is not a lack of emotional closeness, it’s how you are labeling it. It is indeed possible that there is not really a difference other than the use of words. People can use different words when they mean the same, and same words when they mean different things. Would you prioritize your (hypothetical) wife and your (hypothetical) best friend equally, or one over the other, or in different ways? And why?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:07 PM
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I posted a discussion on PPD yesterday about this and EVERY SINGLE WOMAN made it clear she expects to be besties with her husband. I'm indeed best friends with my husband. But this is clearly not what all women want or expect, otherwise there wouldn't be so many women who reject men because it the contact feels "too amicable" or "too familiar", and there wouldn't be so many women with a boyfriend/husband and a male best friend who they know longer than their husband/boyfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:56 PM
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To me there are two different roles: a best friend role, and a wife role. What are the differences between those roles for you? Perhaps to them, it’s about emotional closeness and not really labeling the relationship, so to them both “roles” should be the same person. To me, yeah, but how is it possible to be that emotionally close with someone who doesn't want to be so emotionally close with you? It's painful when that isn't mutual in a marriage/relationship. People who don't want to be that em…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 08:34 PM
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I'd gladly trade my intelligence for being smoking hot. Huh? Why? You would be okay with a man just wanting you for your body if you would be "smoking hot"?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:36 PM
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Couldn't this be explained by some kind of bias? Do you think on average lonely women would be just as comfortable as lonely men to tell here that they are lonely, when they get constantly told that women live on easy mode and cannot be really lonely like men and it must be their own fault because it can only be because of crazy standards? Even other women on this post say so Certain kinds of women are just way more vocal on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 06:52 AM
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Yeah, I have also that experience. Teachers stupidly adviced to just make friends, just ask other children in class to play together with you, do stuff together, etc. Yeah, that works so well, when that same class already ostracizes you for years and nobody wants to be associated with you. More rejection by those same children certainly is the solution. When a boy kicked me, I, and not he, was the one who had to do a training to get "social skills", even despite me speaking up for myself. And no…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:54 AM
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If you meant some red pill men on this sub, then don't say "men" in general. By saying that stuff about men, you are engaging in the same behavior as those guys you criticize for treating women as a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:19 PM
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It's well established from much larger studies that the dark triad personality is the most favored personality for initial attraction and for str. Did those studies also look at which types of women are most attracted to those types of men? Or did they just throw all women on one pile? This is evident by the fact that most relationships fail within the first year, and most women are not engaged or married early like women in the past. So did women in the past have another "female nature" than wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 10:13 PM
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Men never care how nice women are. This generalization is just as false as the other way around. Men remind us everyday that looks matter above all for women Which men? Some men on this sub don't represent all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:47 PM
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But the damage was done. Yeah, it is traumatizing. And often teachers have little understanding for it and consider it something that the victim should solve by just being more "social". Or well, that is at least my experience. (Luckily I haven't been physically bullied to the extent you have.) How did the teachers react to it in your case, if they reacted at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 09:01 PM
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Nice trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:35 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Schools can unfortunately be terrible and dangerous places for some children. I hope life is better for you now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:34 PM
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What do you mean? Why failed? What is the problem, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:24 PM
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Nope, I've raised three kids and been a kid myself. And have you been a victim of bullying yourself? Well, we all know the answer already... One of my kids got bullied, she didn't interact well with others, at all. What do you mean to say with this? Do you consider it her own fault that she got bullied? Poor girl...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:05 PM
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Nonsense, I've never been attracted to bad boys, same for my sisters and lots of other women I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 08:00 PM
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No, bullies defend bullies. Bullies are attracted to bullies. Women and girls can be victims of bullying and ostracizing too.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:42 PM
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No, exactly the quiet children with few or no friends often become victims of bullying.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:37 PM
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Such a stupid question! Do you also ask rape victims why the perpetrator did rape them? Stop victim blaming!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 07:33 PM
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Do you have a reliable source that significantly more women than men really want to be permanently single?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:25 PM
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Less than men in that scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 04:16 PM
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Why do you believe divorce is mainly men's fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:47 PM
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At 55% women, there is a decent enough chance for each man to find a mate, And what about women? It doesn't matter that they have less chance to find a faithful, loving man in that scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:44 PM
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Yea i am really thinking women often just don't give a fuck about men.. i sometimes heard women say 'yea, i just don't want anything sexual right now', 'i want to concentrate on x now', 'i am not open for anything right now'.. i never heard a man say that. On tinder and co there is like 70% men and 30% women? It's really misleading and unfair to equate caring about people to wanting casual sex with strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 09:18 PM
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Polygamy isn't what most people makes happy. It is best for most peoples happiness to be faithful and prioritize one partner who also is faithful to them and prioritizes them. It is best for children to grow up in a family with their own father and mother who love each other. By there being 50% men and 50% women, this is achievable for more people than with any other ratio.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:38 PM
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50% men, 50% women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 08:21 PM
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How many people really don't want to be with someone solely for their appearance? Do most women really constantly reject men by whom they feel understood and accepted as they are, with whom they feel safe, with whom they have compatible personalities, lifestyles, values, world view and wishes for the future, merely for his looks? I would think selecting for compatible personalities, lifestyles, values, world view and wishes for the future and feeling truly accepted is way more of a bottleneck th…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:00 PM
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According to you? Well, not according to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:46 PM
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That's sad but it is not our battle to fight. There is a big difference between not actively fighting it, and actively, consciously, and unnecessarily making use of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:29 PM
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Did the child open their legs? Are sex tourists forced to have sex with prostitutes? Having sex with someone of the other sex simply involves a chance of having children, unless you are 100% infertile. If you choose to have sex, you choose to have a chance on children.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:24 PM
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No, the genetic father and the genetic mother are both responsible for the existence of the child, unless one of them is raped by the other. Towards the other parent, you might not have a responsibility, but towards the child you do have a moral responsibility, whether you like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 03:16 PM
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If you want a bad woman rather than no woman, don't expect any non-bad women to want you. Why should they want to be with someone who wants them just for their womanhood and not for who they are as an individual woman? Most women, just like most men, want to be special for their partner, not someone who could be replaced by any other person of the same sex. You wanting a woman so badly that you rather have a bad woman rather than no woman, shows you don't care much about her personality, and pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:35 AM
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If you want want a woman so badly that you don't care much what woman, and just would accept any woman, don't expect a lot of woman to want you. Most women, just like most men, want to be special for their partner. Why would a woman want to be with a man would settle for her merely because of something every other woman could provide as well, if they agree? Why would a woman be with a man who want to be with her merely because of her womanhood, and not because of who is as an individual? Wanting…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 05:24 AM
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"No" man fails to get into a relationship because of his personality I am not sure this is never ever the case, but I agree with your point that a good personality doesn't garantuee a girlfriend/wife and a bad personality doesn't garantuee zero female attention. One can indeed not rightly conclude how good or bad a man's personality is based on his relationship status. However, that doesn't mean that a bad man and a good man who attract women, attract the same kinds of women. Women are not all t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:49 PM
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Not surprising given the fact that they died one day after getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:09 PM
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Yes Hitler had a wife. But he shot her and killed himself along with their kids. Not true. He wasn't married until one day before his death. He didn't have children, and he and Eva Braun (his wife of one day) committed suicide together by taking a cyanide capsule. She wasn't shot by him.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 10:01 PM

Sorry to hear that. I just wonder, what has this to do with the law or lawmakers playing docters, like the comment above was about? Would you say those terrible things happened due to bad laws?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:46 AM

There are also cases where ectopic pregnancies (which are 100% fatal if left untreated and are never going to be viable) where women were denied treatment due to abortion bans. Could you link sources for that please?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 09:33 AM
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No, she is just a plate for him. He said "current girlfriend".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:40 AM
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Women don't care about n-count Not true: https://www.psypost.org/new-research-finds-a-sexual-double-standard-against-male-but-not-female-promiscuity/ Telling this myth often, doesn't make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:38 AM
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What I won't do is give monogamy to community property. A sane woman doesn't do that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/24 07:05 AM
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How about women who don't have sex before serious commitment, and who would like to get together with a similar minded man? Sex is the barrier for people who have casual sex before commitment, not for those who wait with sex until serious commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:58 PM
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The ones complaining are the average men who have their already small dating pool degraded due to chad leftovers like these. Again, please link a serious source showing that a significant higher percentage of women than of men participate in casual sex. If you can't show me the evidence, why are you making this up? Also, if they are complaining about lack of casual sex, they are not any better than those who participate in casual sex, and are hypocrites when judging them. Both are hedonistic dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 03:10 PM
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We already do y'all a huge favour by participating in it and it's only to appease you that we do it. Otherwise we wouldn't. Well, there you read it wrong. I am not participating in it, never have, and didn't say anything like that. "don't complain about single mothers coz we fuck casual So you are one of those "top percentage of men" if I understand correctly? And yeah, this is justified. Men who risk having children with women who they would not want to stay together with, are hypocrites for cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:41 PM
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However I can attest to the fact that the women doing it, do it with the same top percentage of men. If I understand correctly, "top percentage of men" is common defined as the men who have the most sex with women. So it is a kind of circular definition, do you see? In the same way, you could say that the most promiscuous women are the "top percentage of women". Your comments suggest that you believe women in general are whoring, while in reality as far as I know there is zero evidence that a si…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:34 PM
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as if most men are having it in the first place Could you please link me serious research that shows women participate significantly more in casual sex than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:10 PM
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Where do you read that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 01:09 PM
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If I had worth I wouldn't be 30 and never had a girlfriend. From an objective point of view, this is a very bad measure of your worthiness as a person. I understand it that subjectively, it feels you are worthless when you have never had a relationship, and that a woman wanting a relationship with you would make you feel more worthy. But objectively, it is certainly not the case that a man that is no longer a virgin or single is more worth than those who aren't. Plenty of criminals have (had) gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 06:13 AM
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She is an adult I assume, and can easily establish her own bounderies by no longer responding. Everyone has the right to express their feelings/opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:39 AM
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Most men are better than that and actually want a mutual loving relationship, not just sex. By spreading the narrative men in general just want sex, you aren't doing men a favor, you vilify them. If all a man wants really is just sex, women could best stay far away from such a man. You red pill guys complain so much about single mothers and how bad it is, especially for boys to not have a father. Okay, than stop encouraging and normalizing aspiring casual sex and whine when women don't want casu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 05:36 AM
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Maybe because he sees sex as something intimate that he only wants to share with the woman he will spend the rest of his life with? Because he cares about his future children and thus doesn't want to risk impregnating a woman he does not want to stay with the rest of his life? Because he is not a slave of his hormones and can just solve horniness in private on his own as long as he hasn't found a compatible, reliable woman yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 03:03 PM
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Why should anyone need a religion to justify waiting with sex until marriage/a serious relationship that lasts/finding the right person for them? Why is it understandable when someone does that because the religious group they belong to prescribes it, but not when they decide for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:52 PM
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I waited with sex until marriage and never wanted a relationship that would just end sooner or later, but one aimed at marriage. If I would still be single and at similar age, him being a virgin without past relationships would not be a dealbreaker at all for me, but something I would prefer. But to answer the question whether I would date or have sex with him: I wouldn't have extramarital sex with him, and "date" just sounds very vague to me, so I don't know. (It seems people use the word "date…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 02:45 PM

No, I don't mean that at all, nor did I say that. It would be wise if women would not accept a promiscuous man, nor a man who wants to be promiscuous but doesn't have the possibility. Both are bad options, and it's better to be single and celibate than to be with those kinds of men, in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:52 AM

The ease with which women are able to sleep around, makes more reasonable to preach self-restraint on their side How would women be able to sleep around more than they themselves even want, if there are not a lot of men who are promiscuous-minded (wanting to be promiscuous, but maybe not able to act on it)? The question here is not whether to preach women they shouldn't sleep around, because we already agreed on that. The question now is, why not also preach men shouldn't sleep around? And why n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 06:34 AM

I mostly don't disagree with your comment, I just wonder what it has to do with my comment above. Do you think shaming only female promiscuity is sufficient to get such a society back? Do you think back then only female promiscuity was condemned by society and religion, but male promiscuity was perfectly acceptable and not condemned at all? Do you think most women and their parents back then would be fine with her marrying a man who is known as a player?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:55 AM

What women are you talking about? Maybe read my comment again, it had nothing to do with leagues. The question is: why should a woman be fine with a promiscuous-minded man settling for her just because he otherwise cannot get sex at all? In my opinion it is better for any woman in whatever league to be alone, single and celibate, than to be together with a man like that, who isn't interested in her as an individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:25 AM

your mistake is comparing yourself to men I didn't do that in the comment above. It would be nice if you would address my actual points.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/24 05:15 AM
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it would be a woman who possess many of the qualities that men want AND is in short supply. What are those qualities, according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:06 PM
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I'm sure God, however you define it, values character, intelligence, or whatever way more. How are you so sure about that? If God would value people with high intelligence more than people with low intelligence, why wouldn't he give everyone high intelligence? Why would God value people based on something beyond their control?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 10:04 PM
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Just curious, what does being "feminine" entail, in your opinion? And what do you consider a low body count?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 09:57 PM
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He is also taking care of the kids in that case (by paying their food, roof, other needs etc). Does that count for nothing? A woman who let her husband work full-time, while not working herself and who only cooks and does laundry for herself and her children, but not for her husband, deserves a husband who lets his children live in his house, but who lets his wife not live in his house with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:24 AM
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Relationships that are built on trust, commitment, and emotional connection are fundamentally different—and more valuable—than those that are just about physical gratification. When promiscuity is normalized, it can cheapen the idea of relationships and make it harder for people to form deep, meaningful connections. If everyone’s just hooking up with everyone else, how do you even start to build the trust and loyalty that a solid relationship needs? I agree. Romance, at its core, is about exclus…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 06:13 AM
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women have always viewed a polygamist man as high value That's just the fantasy of promiscuous men who see all women as the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:44 AM
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I never said anything about what men want Yeah, that is the problem, that you don't take that into account. but indeed they are promiscuous to the extent women allow em to, and always will be. Why should any woman want to be settled for access to sex? It's better to be alone. There is difference between thought crime and a crime, though you sound too bitter about men to spot the difference. I'm fine and not bitter about men. I just don't condone promiscuity nor desire to be promiscuous. It's act…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:43 AM
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Oh yeah, men are afraid about being settled for by a former whore, but women should just be fine to be settled for by a man whose only reason he is not sleeping around with many women is he has no possibility to do so and who just settles for her in order to have access to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:27 AM
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You're talking about a small group of actors (the eponymous "fuckboys"), not about the group as a whole (most guys). Oh, there is only a small group of men who desires to be promiscuous? Men here daily claim otherwise. Although most men apparently don't have the access to be promiscuous, most of them apparently would like to be promiscuous, according to a lot of men here. People who want to be promiscuous, but who don't have the possibilities to act on their promiscuous desire, aren't any better…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/24 05:22 AM
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A relationship where both have the mentality "I will stay with you, no matter what", has way more chance to survive than the one in which people will leave as soon as their partner doesn't give them sex often enough (which is at least 3 times a week according to you).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:35 PM
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Relationships are not worth if sex rarely happen You forgot to add "for me". You cannot decide for others whether that is worth it. For me, a relationship in which the other leaves as soon as he gets sex less than three times a week (which you defined as rarely in another comment), is not worth it. I prioritize loyalty over sex and never would want to be together with someone who doesn't have that same order of priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 12:17 PM
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How entitled must you be to call it a "power dynamic" when a woman refuses you access to her own body without a male condom... Totally insane mentality, clearly a big red flag.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 10:44 PM
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(Reader warning: this is meant partly as a joke and partly a bit seriously, so please don't be too offended.) Western Women got what they thought they wanted. They are liberated (from societal norms & traditions) It is the other way around. Women sexually liberated men by allowing them to have sex with them without having to commit. As every red pill men should know, women are the gatekeepers of sex. It's clearly women who opened the gate to free sex, and by doing that, liberated men to do what …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 09:27 PM
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Now, women do have more freedom, but are subjected to far more sexual abuse, and I'd argue, en masse emotional abuse. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 08:35 PM
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I think it has to do with women generally not desiring to have sex with men they despise, but who they respect for some reason (it can be lots of different reasons). Whereas for men it is entirely possible to desire sex with a woman they despise. It is not that all men want that, but it is so common that as a woman you simply cannot conclude from being desired for sex that you are also respected and admired. As a man you probably can more easily and rightly draw that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:23 PM
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But that doesn't mean it's not valuable to all of the ones who don't, Yeah, apparently. I honestly don't understand it though. One of those social needs is the desire to be accepted and even admired by our fellow humans. Is it universal? No. But it's extremely common. I can understand that, and of course do have those to a certain extent. It's just that being seen as a hot body doesn't fulfil those desires for me at all. If anything, it feels like the opposite of truly being accepted and admired…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 09:15 PM
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There wouldn't be thousands of women showing off their bodies on social media if it wasn't valuable There are even more women who don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:17 PM
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It is entirely possible for someone to be lonely and longing for an arm around them from a person who cares about them, without wanting to have sex, let alone casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 08:14 PM
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Privilege isn't the actual sex. It's the attention they get from being desired for sex. I don't know about you, but personally I don't want that attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 07:45 PM
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which is bizarre since they’re only insulting themselves They are rather insulting other men who are not like themselves. By claiming all men are like that, they try to make themselves look less bad and just normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:05 PM
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"Men would fuck anything" is just female fantasy for them to feel more attractive than they really are No, it's rather a nightmare.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 04:01 PM

it’s ABSURDLY difficult to find any sexual outlet as a man It's good when people with this kind of view on sex, cannot find someone willing to have sex with them. You shouldn't have sex in a way that you are just using the other's body as an sexual outlet. Women would be fools for consenting to that. Sex should be reserved for commitment together with love and being prepared for the possible consequences: raising a child together. I know many guys say it’s a biological need but with such extreme…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 09:48 AM

Men who want to spread their seed in as much women as possible, clearly don't care about their future children. Women who do care about their future children, do want men who also care about their future children, not manwhores. Again, as a virgin who consider sex as something intimate, reserved for marriage, I certainly didn't want a manwhore, I wanted a virgin man with similar view on sex. I am not at all unique in that among women with similar view on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:20 AM

Yeah, people usually get together with someone with similar values and a similar lifestyle. Most men aren't so hypocrital about this topic as a lot of men on this sub claim, and their claims about women all wanting men with a lot of sexual partners is just as much nonsense. Just like you, I was waiting with sex until marriage (married now) and wanted to marry a man who did the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:15 AM

Women who reserve sex for serious commitment (marriage), are be stupid for not wanting a man with similar values. As someone with that view on sex, I certainly didn't want a man with a promiscuous past, but a man who was a virgin, like me. (Married now to a man who just like me was virgin until marriage.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 08:02 AM

Being a high n count man is objectively harder since women themselves admit that getting laid is easier as a woman Being harder, doesn't mean better. I consider sex without commitment as immoral. That it is harder to achieve for a man, doesn't make it any less immoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:57 AM

Women don't care about a man's body count It makes no sense that women who consider sex as something intimate that should be reserved for serious commitment, wouldn't care about a man's body count. They very likely do. As a virgin waiting with sex for marriage, I wanted my future husband to also be a virgin, and did indeed marry a virgin man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 07:54 AM

Unless there is a physical or mental health reason a woman cannot orgasm, then it is likely the man's fault if a woman never gets an orgasm from him. Some women have a lot of trouble getting an orgasm even on their own. How is that the man's fault? Telling those women they must be mentally ill because of their struggle to orgasm, isn't helping anyone, it just increases the taboo.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 04:00 PM

You yourself said a relationship isn't worth it without orgasm, yet you complain when men have that attitude. How isn't that hypocrital? (See also my other reply to you in which I addressed this.) You really think that you can walk up to 99% of non asexual men, you can just say, hey friend, I have decided no more sex from now on, and he will accept it and will continue to love you and date you and will never cheat on you. Why would you decide that in the first place, if you love him and enjoy be…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 11:07 AM

Don't give up hope. There are loving men who don't prioritize sex above all else. I am married to one. We both waited with sex until marriage. You said in your culture, premarital sex is discouraged. So do the men in your culture really expect you to have sex on the first few dates? Maybe you could look in places with more similar minded men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:49 AM

Which is why we fake. It would be nice if you would speak for yourself, instead of on behalf of all women. For their satisfaction, and so as not to ruin the vibe. Nobody forces you to begrudgingly have sex, it is your own choice if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:42 AM

It's not worth it anyway, you won't even 0rgasm. To be fair, this is quite hypocritical of you. You complain men wanted to have sex with you way too soon and didn't want to commit without having had sex with you. You probably wouldn't want to be with a man who leaves you as soon as you for whatever reason cannot have sex with him as often as he wants. So you would not want to be with a man who says the relationship with her isn't worth it if I cannot orgasm in her. Yet, you yourself say it isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 10:37 AM

People who lie are not trustworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:41 PM

I do agree with you that women who lie about their past can't be trusted. Now, what about men? You think men who lie about their past are trustworthy?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:36 PM

Well, I have different experience. About half of 18 year old men (and women) are still virgin. A decade later, that percentage is much lower, for both men and women. Who do you think those men lost their virginities to?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:33 PM

So you believe women respect stay at home father who don't earn money more than you yourself? (Follows from the facts that: 1. You claim it is not true that women don't respect those men; and 2. You don't respect stay at home parents.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:27 PM

She is also choosing the 18 year old virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 10:21 PM

First, OP clearly presents a hyperbolized scenario that implies women are basically incapable of genuinely loving men older than them beyond a certain margin. The story of OP doesn't make sense. It is a crazy fictional scenario that in no way is a fair, accurate depiction of the vast majority of couples. First, why women consent to these marriages, then? Most women are not in such a marriage. (Even the source you linked, showed that the vast majority of women do not marry a man more than 6 years…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 08:37 PM

And it's probably one of the reasons why divorce is contagious in practice. Correlation doesn't necessarily mean causation. Couldn't it for a significant part be explained by the following: people are more likely to be friends with people who are rather similar to them (with regards to religion, culture, personality/interests, age, education, ...) certain jobs may certain lifestyle with them or attract certain people. Also this is correlated with education. Did the study correct for all of these…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 04:59 PM
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I believe that if OP's example is not hypothetical, women massively marry men for reasons other than love, What do you mean with this conditional statement? If OP's post isn't about a fictional story, but about a real life case, that leads you to conclude women massively marry men for reasons other than love? The logic seems off here. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/12/04/tying-the-knot-again-chances-are-theres-a-bigger-age-gap-than-the-first-time-around/ What is your point with pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:05 PM
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To me it seemed you were disagreeing that you as a woman can freely choose whoever you marry, because you entered an unhappy relationship because of your insecurities, loneliness or laziness, hence my response.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:39 PM
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And thus they cannot choose? Does their insecurity, loneliness or laziness force them to enter a relationship with a man they don't like, without any choice of their own? Don't they have any responsibility for how they live their life? What about the poor men who think they are in a mutual loving relationship, but it turns out his partner is just with him out of insecurity, loneliness or even laziness? Who is the victim in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 06:14 AM
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Women don't love men. Okay. Do you really believe your wife/girlfriend, the mother of your child, doesn't love you? And do you love her?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 05:17 AM
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What I said was your assumptions that most have never done it are wrong. I haven't said it is a majority. I just don't know how many. I only know that there are plenty who don't do it, what percentage it exact is, ai don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:05 PM
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No, there exist plenty of women who don't do casual sex, especially in my background/environment. You probably just cannot imagine that, because you want casual sex yourself and are looking for it and thus are more likely to come across women who do, than women who don't do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:39 PM
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I personally know a lot of women who don't engage in casual sex. I don't closely know women who do engage in casual sex. Sure they exist, but I honestly don't know how many.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:32 PM
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one of our biggest fear is a man who would sex us and then leave tbh. You will not be able to avoid that if you follow your own advice in this post though. The way to avoid it, is by waiting with sex until marriage, or at least until you both are seriously committed to each other, know and trust each other, and have had serious conversations about your values and views on life and what it means to be committed to each other. As long as you are afraid the man will leave you after sex, you are not…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 03:26 PM
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never accept a woman that’s running dual mating strategies (AF/BB) Isn't it red pill theory that all women are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:32 PM
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If you were right, a bunch of women will come onto this thread to tell us how certain women like to fuck and like fucking attractive dudes. We probably wont though. Why should women who don't participate in casual sex and who don't experience lust for bodies of male strangers come to this thread to tell there are women who do? Sure there exist women who apparently enjoy sex with strangers, I don't understand those women and thus cannot talk on behalf of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:15 PM
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Not all women pursue casual sex. Some do. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:09 PM
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But it kinda funny how women seemingly don't experienced primal lust when men claim they do but then also try their hardest to justify women having super high partner counts. Those are very likely not the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:07 PM
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Yeah, same.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:02 PM
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Yeah, indeed. People who can pressured out of a marriage/relationship, are way too immature for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:45 AM
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Thank you for explaining! I was thinking about marrying a 99 year older man, but now the hivemind has convinced me this is a bad idea. Without this story, I would be lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:42 AM
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Well, then the hivemind must be suffering from dissociative identity disorder. How did you manage to escape from the hivemind, by the way? Or am I conversing with the hivemind right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:35 AM
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Changing the title doesn't change the fact that you wrote a fictional story, with lots of maybes and no arguments. Adults can decide for themselves whether or not they want to be in an age gap relationship, they don't need your fictional stories for that. There are plenty of same ages couples that divorce for whatever reasons and there are also quite some couples with age gap that never divorce. I personally know a couple with 10+ age difference very good, and they are not divorced and I'm convi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:15 AM

I believe in an objective morality. Given objective morality exists, how can we (get to) know what is right? Is it (always or sometimes) possible to (get to) know what is right? I think sex is binary and objective, but I’m fine with using gender as a looser concept. What is "gender"? Why use the concept "gender" in the first place, taking into account that "gender" historically was a grammatical term and only relatively recently introduced into psychology by the controversial psychologist/sexolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:28 PM
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Hope we both find the formula/answers we are looking for What are you looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:24 AM
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For example, do you believe in an objective morality or not? Do you believe in sex and/or gender essentialism or not? Are you epistemologically an empiricist, rationalist, or something else? Do you believe in a transcendent order and set of values or not? Do you believe ontologically in materialism, dualism, or some other metaphysic? Do you subscribe to a certain religion, and if so what is it? What are your views on political theory and why? What are your stances on this, OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 09:14 AM

sacred prostitution This is a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:18 PM

It wouldn't, because prostitutes don't cook or clean or raise kids for you, which is what a lot of men want/need a wife for. Most important distinction misses: A wife loves (or at least should love) her husband, whereas a prostitute doesn't love her client. Men who really want mutual love and sincere connection cannot find that in a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 11:12 PM

this would also take care of the male loneliness issue. "loneliness" that is solved by having sex with a prostitute isn't real loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:48 PM

What is the source of those data?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:51 AM

Does it seem like all the girls you know are taken while all the guys you know are still looking with not much luck? No. I know quite some single women in their twenties, who also don't participate in casual sex. Maybe it seems that way for you because women with lots of male acquaintances/friends probably are more likely to find a boyfriend/husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:43 AM
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Suppose women swipe right on almost every profile, just like men, what would happen in that case? Do people have the time and energy to have that much contact with others? Do people have the time and energy to meet so many people?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:43 AM

Just because you disagree, doesn't mean I'm a troll. If everyone here thinks you are a troll, maybe it's you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:58 PM

women, males Show some respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:33 PM

We wear clothing for ourselves. It's more the lack of clothing that is the problem. If more modest clothing causes you to be less uncomfortable when a man looks in your direction, why don't wear more modest clothing for yourself? Moreover, it is often easier to work out in clothing that allows for easy movement You can easily wear clothes that allow you to move while not being crazy tight around your ass. Men do it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:31 PM

Just don't show anything you wouldn't want someone to look at. Problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:13 PM
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Interesting to hear. Would you say that in your age group the ratio of men/women attending church regularly in that town was the similar to the ratio men/women attending the bible study? I initially thought women were more likely than men to attend church, but apparently this is no longer the case for the youngest generations and also the ratio appears to vary greatly among different denominations. Just curious, do you recognize that pattern and are you from one of the denominations with men in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:45 PM
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It’s just that a solid majority of the women in attendance weren’t the “take home to the family” types. I understand finding a compatible woman with similar faith is difficult in a secularized small town. But isn't that at least equally difficult for the women with similar faith? (Maybe even more difficult, considering the local men-women-ratio.) You said there were 100+ men wanting those rare 15 women. But who were those men? Were there many nonbelievers looking for a conservative christian wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 03:37 PM
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If love is so ugly as often described on this sub ("it is just a transaction", etc.) what is so precious about it? Why do people miss and desire it?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:45 PM
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My only standards were “regularly attends church, within my rough age range, and not obese.” ... Otherwise, it just turns into 100+ guys vying for the attention of 15 women How? Were the men attending church more than the women at your college? Where there way more men than women who were not obese? Or where there just in total way more men than women at your college? I say this to explain that having standards as a guy means either being single, which I strongly considered; or it means being a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:25 PM
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Probably from the frying pan into the fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:24 PM
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Love is just not understandable for those who have never loved anyone, just like colors are not really understandable for people who have never seen colors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:21 PM
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OP appears to be a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 12:17 PM

Who should frisk female suspects if there are no female police officers?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:59 AM

Sure, but Islamic extremism just shows that banning women from politics/influential positions doesn't automatically result in a logical paradise at all. It shows men are not as logical and focused on facts as you seem to think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:56 AM

While yes being an immigrant is very hard and people endure difficult endeavors, that doesn't mean they get a golden ticket or can ignore the proper procedures set for legal immigration into whichever country they're entering Plenty of women agree with that, and plenty of men disagree. Recently the MEP Ewa Zajączkowska-Hernik heavily criticized Ursula von der Leyen because of her immigration policy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:40 AM

Taliban amd Al-Queda Those groups are both governed by men. (Men who are neither from Russia nor the USA.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:32 AM

I now remember Afghanistan were women indeed aren't allowed in politics. The country seems to be very prosperous since the women were banned from politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:22 AM

Politics and Law is based on logical thinking and factual evidence Curious which country you are talking about. Certainly not a country on our planet. Edit: Oh well, it must be Afghanistan. Yeah, let's all take Afghanistan as an example. That certainly would greatly improve the welfare of our countries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:06 AM
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Your feelings Well, then you are the one here putting feelings over facts. I did not mention any feelings of mine. You don't know my feelings, you just feel like you know my feelings. Fact is that men and women are not completely opposite from each other in all regards. Fact is that I wanted to (and did) marry a virgin man, not a manwhore. According to your feelings that fact is not possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:50 AM
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The funniest parts of the post for me were the extreme reactions OP jumped to I see. The post is indeed quite ridiculous (just like many other posts here). Thanks for explaining. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:36 AM
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I would never want to change my man with my sister's man. Neither would she. So your claim is disproven.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:29 AM
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I agree that that is an important distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:36 PM
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? Which feelings and facts are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:20 PM
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That signifies a few things, but namely that we don't value sex the same way. Well, yeah, you say it yourself. It is an incompatible view on sex. Not necessarily insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:51 PM
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Or you are just insecure about it your count. People who view sex as something intimate that you don't just share with strangers, of course will not want to be in a relationship with someone with a high body count. They are incompatible with their view on sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:50 PM
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Then I must be a man, according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:44 PM
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Yet you have no problem "humiliating" others in that way. See the hypocrisy? That's the problem. As a virgin woman I wanted my future husband to be a virgin too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:41 PM
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Men sleeping around is indicative of positive value. In your opinion. Not in my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:27 PM
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This is like a direct attack on my bestfriend. She says it because women are fake and they will talk shit behind your back instead of to your face and etc etc. ... This time I’m just defending my bestfriend emotionally and by proxy defending myself for her being my bestfriend So you are best friends with someone who is fake and talks shit behind your back?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:52 PM
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That's nice. I hope you also don't take offense to my following question to you: Why did you say "Lmfao"?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 08:30 PM

How should individual men "hold bad men accountable", according to you? What are you personally doing to hold women accountable who abuse their children? (Yes, those women exist.)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:49 PM

Those men are exceptions, not men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:45 PM
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He is not lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:39 PM
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They exist, fortunately. My husband doesn't watch porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:34 PM
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After getting over the anger phase I would rather be sad and disappointed than angry. Do you kick him to the curb? If he would continue watching porn and wouldn't see a problem with it. I would not be comfortable with it and it would mean our values with regards to sex are not compatible. What if he's an absolute slayer in bed and you find out he got this way from watching I would not know that as I waited with sex until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:27 PM
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I can understand saying you are in no place to judge. I just don't understand why you said "Lmfao", as if watching porn isn't wrong and sad at all and not something you regret. I fail to see what is funny about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 07:17 PM
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I thought you are Catholic. Do you think it is okay for a Catholic woman to make porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 04:19 PM
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No. Only someone who is very shallow themselves, thinks that almost everyone is that shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:26 PM
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Most men and women are not that shallow that they only care about looks or money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:22 PM
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They have no consistency if it means having to adjust their views. Someone hasn't realized yet women aren't a hivemind...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:32 PM
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Women in here say all the time that love and relationships are transactional and men are loved for what they provide not for who they are, Most women on this sub don't say that. It's mainly men on this sub who say this and claim women cannot love men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 12:09 PM
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Why di you act like most women dont want to look after there their kids more while their male partners work more? I don't? Why do you act like this is completely unrelated to them being the ones who go through pregnancy, childbirths and breastfeeding though? Being the breadwinner while also being the one who has to go through pregnancies, childbirths and breastfeeding, simply is more difficult than being the breadwinner while being able to leave those tasks to your partner. This simply will neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:14 PM
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i fyou want to work more an have your husband work less and take care of the kids more then simply do that The husband cannot take over the pregnancy, childbirth and breastfeeding though. This makes that on average it is just more practical that the mother is the one who works less. (Of course it is not the same for every couple, just on average it is more practical that the father works more than that the mother works more.)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 07:07 PM
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This alone indicates to me that its not some nefarious conspiracy against women, but probably many factors and a general culture that may disadvantage them, without anyone or at least most men in power wanting to specifically keep them down. Thats why I personally dont buy the patriarchy/sexism argument as the sole explanation. This, indeed, and also some biological differences which are no ones choice or fault but due to which work and salary never will become completely equal. That also is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:57 PM
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Your argument about childcare is weird, it suggest that women are forced to have children, No, it doesn't suggest that. It is just as you yourself said in this post: "motherhood and childcare affects them more," Women are not forced to have children, but when a man and a woman together decide to have a child, it will on average be more difficult for the woman to not let that affect her career than for the man. As a woman it can be a choice to have a child (sometimes it is not a choice), but it i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:40 PM
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That has to stop. Who are you to decide that? Let parents have the freedom to decide together how they divide the paid and unpaid work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/24 06:27 PM
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and acting like single moms can replace a strong father Yeah, the celebration of single mothers is indeed frustrating for 2 reasons. One problem is indeed that it gives the impression that fathers don't matter children's life. The other issue I have with it is that it makes it seem like that they are somehow better mothers than the mothers who are actually happily together with the father of their children. That while a significant part of single mothers are single mothers at least partly due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:17 PM
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Feel free to put more effort in your replies.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:47 PM
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Why multiple women? You think they are not "fucked up" (yet), but they will have sex with you without being married to you? Don't you make them "fucked up" when you leave them after having had sex with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:46 PM
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Wtf? No man is forced to kill another man to have sex. He could just choose not to have sex instead of killing. Women have the right to choose to whoever they let into their body, and by denying certain/most/all men access to their own body, they are not forcing anyone. You are not entitled to entering anyone's body. Am I bad now for only having sex with my husband and denying all other men access to my body? And you know you are wrong. Historically women often got not to choose freely with whom…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:25 AM
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So it is due to culture/environment/upbringing, not due to female nature when women choose to have sex with criminals? and only have sexual relations with women in normal countries, where they aren't totally fucked up Why multiple women? You think they are not "fucked up" (yet), but they will have sex with you without being married to you? Aren't they "fucked up" after you leave them? Or do you mean you are waiting with sex until marriage with a suitable woman? (I respect that, it is just not cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 06:25 AM
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If women are such terrible, immoral beings for supposedly having sex with terrible, immoral men, why do you want to have sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:18 AM
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Most women don't have sex with criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:14 AM
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If women are so terribly immoral, why do men chase women and even procreate with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:12 AM
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What inconvenient truth? I've never rewarded criminal men, just like most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:06 AM
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You're defending an argument that exsists in your imagination. What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:01 AM
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Most men aren't criminals and most women don't reward criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:54 AM
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No, this mentality is not any more girly than it is manly. It may even be more manly than girly. Even in the story of the fall of Adam and Eve, the man pathetically refuses to take any responsibility for his own choice, and just blames the woman. The woman subsequently correctly blames it to the fact that she was misguided.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:46 AM
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Glad you agree you are inferior at logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 01:26 AM
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Men and women are NOT equal in any sense of the imagination. Men can jump higher, run faster, etc. I didn't ask whether they are equal or who can jump higher or run faster. I asked you whether you consider women inferior. Clearly you cowardly avoid the question. What can women do equally as good as men can? Meaning, if you take 100 random women and 100 random men, what is one task those 100 random women will 100% be able to do better than a man If men are superior at logic, we clearly have found…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:51 AM
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Do you consider women inferior to men? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:55 PM
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Are you I unable to read or do you feel too superior to properly answer my question?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:47 PM
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Okay, so what? For what does it matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:54 PM
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Women are proud of being women 24/7 I'm not. No idea how I should be proud of being a woman. to the point they need the media to beat men over the head about it at every turn. If they need that they are probably in reality very insecure and don't have much to be proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:44 PM
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Very cowardice and rude of you to constantly ignore my questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:40 PM
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I love being a woman.. What do you love about it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:59 PM

I mean if I’m going to give up my single life of FWB’s and ONS’s, the sex is going to have to be frequent or I’m gone. Well, as long as you are clear about that from the start, the women who don't feel comfortable being together with a man with such mentality can avoid you, and nobody has to be frustrated or stressed about whether they have enough sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:08 PM

I agree with you post above that it is not a strong argument. It is not true though that single women are all happily single and are single just because they don't want a relationship. Not everyone woman easily finds someone who is compatible, trustworthy, and truly loves her (and not just likes her body). Women can be lonely too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 12:03 PM
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Has the way you feel about being a woman changed (for the better?) when you got together with your husband who (I hope) loves you as a woman? How does your husband react to you being unhappy to be a woman? (I'm interested because it is (partly) very recognizable.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:34 AM
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You have no problem sitting on a bloody chair? the great gift What is great about it? Are you jealous?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 11:02 AM
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Womens bodies are constructed to deal with menstruation. Great construction dude. That's why so many women are iron deficient and have to take pain killers to be able to function. Great construction, having to worry that you will not bleed through and where you can find the next toilet in a unfamiliar place. Though experiments a la "How would men deal with it" do not make sense This isn't the question. It is just a fact that never having to menstruate is a benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:36 AM
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You wouldn't worry about periods in the way that you think because it would be unimaginable to not have them. This doesn't make sense. No woman is bleeding every day of her life. All women know how it is not to menstruate. Never having to menstruate certainly is a big benefit men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:21 AM
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Because claiming sex is a "need" in itself regardless of context (love, with which person), makes it disgusting. Sex can be great if two people love and care about each other. It can be hard when for some reason you cannot have sex with the person you love and want to be close with. It can also be hard if you are single and thus have not a person with mutual love to be close with. In that case you miss a person to be intimate with, you don't miss just sex. I have empathy for those who are lonely…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:14 AM
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Not all physical touch is the same though. Babies don't die when they aren't touched in a sexual way. They need loving touch as an expression of their parents love for them, and because they are cared for. They don't need touch that is not out of love and care for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:56 AM
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and I wake up everyday proud to be born a man. This is not an achievement of yourself though. You didn't create yourself male. You have not chosen to be male, you are just born that way. So why the pride? Gratitude would be more appropriate if being a man is more beneficial to you than being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 08:00 AM
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but the case against it is also obvious and strong. Maybe strong, but not completely obvious. We can acknowledge people are not equal, but the question raises, what should we do with that fact? What should be the implications of the fact that people are different? In what cases are which differences relevant? When is it justified to treat different people different? When is it justified that certain people have certain power over certain other people? Should we just let the right of the stronges…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:35 AM
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If men and women aren't equal in brain activity, muscle, habits, sizes, desires, speed, proclivities, Men among each other aren't equal in those matters either. Why does that make you so upset that you just ignore that inconvenient fact? how do you deduce they are equal? Where did I deduce that?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 05:12 AM
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Why do you constantly ignore my questions? Again: what is your point? Why is all you want to hear "men and women are not equal", just to be upset when people point out the fact that men aren't all equal either? It seems like a very emotional thing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:59 AM
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Yes, men have more patents than women. So, you admit they aren't equal, correct? What is you point with "men and women are not equal"? Sure in that regard as groups they are not equal. So what? With regards to having patents, you (singular) and most men are more similar to most women than to those very men (exceptions) who have patents. So, what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:58 PM
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That’s a computer language. You switched topics I was referencing equality in math. For your information: compute means calculate. = is just a symbol that can mean anything. But in math 2024 = has a specific meaning of equality. So what has math to do with the post of OP? And I knew you would do this. But I didn’t feel like specifying But you are the type to do it. ? Do what? Do you know me? So all the bowls in the hypothetical scenario are exactly the same Bowls are not a mathematical concept. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:43 PM
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Yes, men have more patents than women. So, you admit they aren't equal, correct? My question was for you singular, not you plural: Do you (singular) personally have more patents, have earned more degrees, and have written more books than the average woman? Typical of a woman to deflect the conversation to try to fit your own narrative. How is it deflecting? Why have you so much trouble answering my questions? Are you admitting you are behaving and thinking like a woman, or like a man? I think li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:35 PM
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Here we go with you women always bringing up men. And what have you to say to the fact that all men aren't equal either, besides showing frustration because it is inconvenient?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:26 PM
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So women have the same number of patents, degrees, books, way of thinking as men do? Do you have more patents, have earned more degrees, have written more books than the average woman? Are they physically EQUAL?? Are you equal to men who have won olympic medals?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:21 PM
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Are you equal to Leonhard Euler? Are you equal to Magnus Carlsen? Are you equal to Alan Turing? Are you equal to John von Neumann? Are you equal to Isaac Newton? Are you equal to Albert Einstein? Are you equal to Niels Bohr?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:09 PM
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6' != 5'11'' Are a 6' tall man and a 5'11'' tall man equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:53 PM
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The two bowls are the SAME. They are not the same object. They are two different objects. Equal means same or equal = same Java disagrees with you :) Logic
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:45 PM
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Why wouldnt your life partner be your biggest supporter emotionally? I don't understand that either. Women seem to have homoerotic relationships with their friends and give them more room to express themselves emotionally than their actual husband or bf. They will say they hate being a mans "therapist" but would do the same things for their friends without hesitation. Its weird That's weird for sure. I can only say this is not the case for all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:57 PM
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Do you think most women are sluts?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:51 AM
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Adult male virgins are red flags because they feel bitter and jaded about their experiences and wronged by women. Faulty generalization. I'm very happy my husband has as little sexual experience and relationships as myself (which is none besides with each other). Experienced men are red flags because they have not committed to a woman despite having had plenty of options, or because somehow the "commitments" break again and again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 07:44 AM

Women themselves say that they have a "social matrix". Women will often punish divergent thinking amongst themselves through this same social matrix. I've never heard a woman say that, and I have never heard the term "social matrix". Sounds like a bunch of bullshit. I think that the general attitude among western women is that "it's a personal choice to have as much sex as one wants", so I don't think that this belief violates some kind of western female groupthink. And same it the general attit…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 08:03 PM
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First of all, what has that all to do with the OP's post and pairbonding? Is it twisted when a virgin woman who reserves sex for true commitment wants a man with the same mentality, who will be just as committed and pairbonded to her as she will be to him? Is it twisted when a virgin woman waiting with sex until marriage, wants to be just as special to her future husband as he will be to her? There's always a leader in a friend group. It is usually the most outspoken person or the most attractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 07:28 PM
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Many women have a story about dating a man like this. And many women don't. I don't. Those "high-value" folks can be promiscuous among each other, giving each other the delusion of being "high-value", which they are in their own ephemeral, meaningless world. Meanwhile, real high value people are faithful and treat each other with love and care and not like trash that you throw away as soon as you come across better looking trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:35 PM
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high-value men aren’t going to treat them well "high-value"... well that's clearly subjective...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:53 PM
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Only on those who allow him. That is certainly not everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:51 PM
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People should treat their partners like they love them, trust them and care for them. Unfortunately, this is literally impossible to understand for all the psychopaths on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:49 PM
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But I'm still the prize Consider yourself whatever you want, it doesn't mean everyone else considers you like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:47 PM
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Every other woman on earth wants him. No, I don't. that men who cheat are dirtbags They are. The scum of the earth.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:45 PM
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yall kinda live in the moment alot which makes focusing on things like body count less apparent. Nonsense. Who is "yall"? I have always wanted to marry a trustworthy, virgin man who prioritizes true love and loyalty over sex, not someone who wants to have sex with multiple women. Those are not just words, I actually married such a great man. I'm from a background in which from both men and women it is expected to wait with sex until marriage. I know the women who wait with sex until marriage, wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 06:15 PM
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Yeah but in most cases that's their choice. What is their choice? It's quite hypocrite. If a woman says she is lonely, you say: no, you can't be truly lonely, because you easily can find someone willing to have sex with you. If a woman than does that, and still feels lonely, you say: own fault, you shouldn't have had sex with them. They would rather fuck a dude who's a little or a lot out of their league and will never commit to them because of it than have a relationship with a guy on their lev…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:58 AM
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If you look around, successful relationships in every aspect of the world has been fine tuned, and reflective in any business. ... In any relationship, there needs to be a leader and a follower. No, people can be friends without any of them being the leader and the other(s) the followers. People can work in a team without one person being constantly the leader in all aspects. However, in todays world, women want to be leaders of men, and men want to follow woman. It's totally twisted. Anyway, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:36 AM
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Women who consider sex as something very intimate that you shouldn't treat casually certainly do care about a man's body count. The women who don't consider a high body count for women as a problem, those are the ones who don't see a high body count for men as a problem either. Most women don't have a double standard in that regard.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:16 AM
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Relationships? Men can do those without pair bonding or love without an issue Men who do that are psychopaths.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:11 AM
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Fortunately, people have that kind of justice mostly in their own hand, because they have the power to stick to their own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:19 PM
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I would probably abandon my mother if I was the child in such a scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:11 PM
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Yeah, and not only that, it is the child of the person who has done that terrible thing to you, so in that point it is a bit similar to having the child of a rapist. (Obviously there also are big differences.) Nevertheless it is cruel to the child when the man who always was as a father suddenly leaves and cuts of all contact. The child is innocent and in fact loses both parental figures at once, as discovering your mother lied to you about that your whole life also is kind of losing her.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:05 PM
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and if I don’t I’ll continue to just have casual sex. That's sad. In that way you don't even give it a chance to at least partially recover from the damage you have done to yourself. Also, it is difficult to warn people not to go in your footsteps, if you continue on that path. You are on a path on which you very likely never will meet the woman you hope for, because she probably doesn't walk on that path. If you leave that path, you obviously have no guarantee either, but the chance probably wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:26 PM
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I get a ton of flack for this but I personally don't date women who have been with more than 15 partners and even that's pushing it. 15 actually is very high in my opinion. Is it very hard for you to find women who have had less than 15 sex partners? Its not like I'm some incel or don't hold myself to those standards either. I'm fairly attractive and could easily sleep with lots of women but I want my partner to have the same views as me. Completely understandable and justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:08 PM
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This is besides the point but women want you to have sexual experience already or experience with women already. So how could they prefer that if it was true that pairbonding was more difficult for men after essentially having more sexual experience? Those are women who are sexual experienced themselves, or at least don't see it as a problem if they would be experienced. Women who consider sex as something very intimate that only belongs into very serious commitment (marriage), want men with sim…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:57 PM
10

No
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:01 PM
1

I don’t necessarily think keeping the first love goggles is the best thing as it makes one too dumb in relationships, but it still is different. What does "dumb in relationships" mean? It's rather dumb to be so careless with your first love that you lose it. Multiple relationships are not needed when people would stay true to their first love.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 07:00 PM
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Yes, I very strongly agree. (And obviously also the other way around.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:48 PM
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Love is for the young. And for the older people who take commitment really serious and were not so unfortunate to be betrayed by the one they were closest to. As you get older This is inevitable. and the more partners you have There it goes wrong. Why have more and more partners, when you are willing to truly commit to someone for life and try to choose that one with the greatest care, because it is a very serious matter? Now that I'm in my 30s I just don't have the same eagerness or capacity to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:45 PM
1

So they just don't pair bond at all, according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 06:02 PM
5

Sex with a stranger who doesn't care about you doesn't solve loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:34 PM
1

Well, on these Red Pill or Black Pill subs the men do kind of have a hive mind, although maybe not as much as women, What basis do you have for your idea women as a whole are more of a hivemind then a small group of men? On the other hand, one doesn't see women collectively mocking the beliefs of the women on TwoX. What exactly are the believes of women on TwoX? There are men on Reddit, usually liberal men, who openly mock manosphere-type beliefs. On the other hand, one doesn't see women collect…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:53 PM
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If the answer is no, he was never a friend. I don't think this always has to be the case. It is possible for a man to genuinely like a woman, to like her personality a lot, but once the hope of getting together with her has been destroyed, it might just be too painful for him to stay friends with her. He may need time without her to get over feelings of love for her. It's also possible he feels a bit ashamed and stupid for wrongly having interpreted certain meaningless things from her side as in…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:31 PM
1

My husband is completely honest in saying he thinks I’m more attractive with makeup on. And my husband is completely honest in saying he is glad I don't wear makeup and he wouldn't like it if I would wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:09 PM
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I take men who say they prefer no makeup with a piece of coarse salt. They really exist though. My husband is very glad that I don't wear makeup.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:26 PM
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It's encouraging to see a woman who can see through the trap of makeup.Unfortunately, out of many comments from women, you're the only one so far who can see what I'm saying. Second one here. I never wear make up, also never did in the past, and I do agree with you that women look better without makeup. It is probably a very unpopular view, but to me women without makeup often look friendlier and I feel on average more comfortable with women who don't wear makeup. It's sad that most women don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 09:04 PM
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Why would it be pretending? He could honestly enjoy her presence.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:42 PM
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So you're saying don't become friends with women first when about 80 percent of the women on this sub say otherwise. I don't know whether it is 80%, but I indeed disagree with OP. I was friends with my husband before we started our relationship, so I have a good experience with it. No wonder the dating world fucking sucks when women don't know what they want. Women disagreeing with each other, doesn't mean that women don't know what they want. Why do you expect women to all agree with each other…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:38 PM
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and befriending a woman you have a crush/lust after in the sole hope that your "friendship" will make her sleep with you. Lying to get into someone's pants or get resources is despicable. It doesn't have to be just for sex though and it doesn't have to be lying either. A man may like her and see her as a potential partner, and by being friends he can get to know her better, discover whether he really enjoys her presence and whether they are compatible. Becoming friends often also isn't a deliber…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 10:27 PM
0

If taller would mean superior, then people from northern Europe and several other European countries are superior to Americans and Canadians, as they are on average taller than Americans and Canadians. Do you see it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:58 PM
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Yeah, just like taller men (and shorter men) also are their equals, not their superiors. Men are on average taller than women in every nation, so in most couples the man will be taller than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:13 PM
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It's not obvious, it's just your feeling. You've just decided that's the reason and read it into everything. You apparently just have the feeling that women are underprivileged and have decided that's the reason and read it into everything. That kind of thing happens between siblings all the time no matter the gender combination. What kind of thing? Do you know what exactly he experienced?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:53 PM
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This is a debate subreddit, not an "empathy" subreddit. Debating doesn't mean you have to be so heartless towards others. I'm not going to tell you how sorry I am and back up on all my points just because that's what women are meant to do. You indeed shouldn't say sorry to him because you are a woman, but because your comments towards him telling his life experiences are cruel. If you want to talk about your troubles and get empathy you shouldn't weaponise them in a debate. It was totally not an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:41 PM
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I'm not here to be friendly. Why are you here? Does the reason you are here force you to be extremely rude and unfriendly to people? He tried to make it a counterargument. He told about what he has gone through. Did you have a similar terrible childhood? Or are you the privileged one? You are not a victim just for being female.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:32 PM
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Why this question? It sounds very unfriendly after someone told about his terrible childhood. (Maybe you didn't mean it unfriendly, but it definitely comes across unfriendly and without empathy.) Also, the question isn't relevant. He nowhere claimed that he would have less worse childhood experiences if he would have been a girl. He only, justifiedly, points out by telling his life experiences, that it makes no sense to call strangers privileged when you completely don't know what they have been…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:25 PM
2

Why should the mother of your children be tall? What has that to do with sport?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:57 PM
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I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:54 PM
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All that depends on the personality and also on the upbringing and environment around the child, not on the sex of the child.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:52 PM
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Sorry to hear you have been through all that. You deserve to be heard and taken seriously not any less than women who have been through bad things. I hope you are in a better situation now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:47 PM
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I’d be pretty upset if I had a boy who ended up like some of the men on this sub. What if you had a girl who ended up like some of the women on TwoXChromosomes or like an "angry feminist", the favorite caricature of some men here? Would you be less upset about that? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:30 PM
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How could you prepare a girl for that? Wouldn't it be a kind of victim blaming, when you would teach her that she should be careful and not dress too immodest?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:21 PM
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The world is a much scarier place for girls How so, when there are more male than female murder victims? And aren't there things that boys maybe have to be prepared for more than girls? By the way, how would you prepare your daughter for a scary world?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:14 PM
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Also, boys are easier than girls to raise. What makes raising girls more difficult than raising boys, in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:05 PM
1

If it never works, why are there so many men, especially on this sub, afraid when their girlfriend/wife has male friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 07:31 AM
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I feel for you. I hope you will find comfort and that your broken heart will heal. Wish you all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 09:59 PM
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When not being in a committed relationship (yet), I think it is wisest that everyone pays for themselves. In that way, no one is used for money, and no one is guilt tripped. When people have committed to each other, I think it's unhealthy to compete with each other to earn the exact same amount of money or do exactly the same amount of work. Personally, I would not want to be in a relationship that is over as soon as I lose my job or that is over as soon as I am not growing as fast in my career …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:48 PM
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This. And chances are not small that the woman would not even survive multiple pregnancies in that circumstance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 08:02 PM
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Women are demanding the right to divorce a good guy for no reason at all I don't. want the right to criticize men who leave their wives for younger women. A woman who always has been faithful and did her best for her husband, has all right to complain when her husband leaves her. It's very stupid to claim good, faithful wives deserve to be left for a younger women, because there exist selfish bitches who leave their good, faithful husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 11:18 AM
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I don’t understand why the pursue of happiness without taking away someone else’s freewill is so difficult to understand. Where did OP say he wants others not to have freewill or freedom? You can "pursue happiness", but you can hurt people a lot by doing so if "pursuing happiness" means breaking your commitment. People are allowed to consider your pursuing of happiness unjustified in case you hurt others by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:52 PM
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you can just get a dog or jerk off(even though I don't think either of those things can really substitute a connection with an actual woman who you care about) You are right, they cannot replace that. And neither can loveless sex with a women just out of lust replace a loving relationship with a woman and take away loneliness. I feel a lot for those who are lonely and wish for a loving relationship. I really wish for them they will find someone who is compatible with them. What often occurs on t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 10:36 PM
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And do you honestly respect them, or do you look down on them for being emotional women and do you take them less seriously than stoic men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:52 PM
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My husband isn't afraid of crying and being anxious in my presence. When he cries, I try to comfort him. When he is anxious or worried about things (which isn't rare at all), I try to reassure him. I will never leave him or stop loving him for crying or being anxious. They don't get support or affection from friends and co-workers - and displays of vulnerability are absolute suicide, both professionally and socially. Plenty of men have friends who support them and with whom they can be vulnerabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 07:43 PM
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We don't tell our fat and obese friends their 10s.... I don't either. It is probably mainly an American thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:32 PM
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Except you all never tell your fat or obese friends they need to hit the gym... So men hitting the gym because their friends told them proves women are more influenced by their friends than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 03:29 PM
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I don't understand where you get that from. I certainly don't support people making porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/24 04:36 AM
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No. That's great. I asked, because there are also men who very hypocritically state that (female) porn stars are bad and deserve negative consequences for their deeds, but who at the same time continue consuming porn and don't want to say a negative word about pimps or loverboys like Andrew Tate. Do you? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 10:05 PM
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“If he watches porn it’s the same as me making porn!” False quotation. I didn't say it's the same. I mean: If you consider your partner's nakedness in sexual context as something intimate that only should be shared with you and not with other men, it is just hypocrital to simultaneously watch other women naked in sexual context and jerk off to that. If she doesn’t want a man who smokes or drinks, that’s up to her, but you can see how that’s different than having a problem with a guy who is produ…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 09:14 PM
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Your partner sees you rewarding provocative women and wants that validation from you It's rather denigrating than validating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:48 PM
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Sounds like it is time to get help for your addiction. I hope you manage to quit. Addictions are also common among porn stars, by the way, and porn stars also may have a very hard time quitting the porn industry and turning their lives around for the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:40 PM
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not give a fuck what it does to men? Strawman. Not true and completely unrelated to my comment above. You lack empathy. Seems like you project your lack of empathy on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 08:28 PM
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Not the same women.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:26 AM
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Do you watch porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:09 AM
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Women worrying about their men watching porn is a control thing and a reflection on their own insecurities. What about men worrying about their women producing solo porn? If it doesn't mean anything for men to watch porn, it also doesn't mean anything for a man if his girlfriend is seen like that by other men. Calling them insecure is just an attempt to convince women to stop having boundaries with regards to porn consume. A woman who doesn't produce porn and doesn't consume porn, is completely …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 06:08 AM
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There's nothing funny about such a horrible figure, who is a human trafficker. Do you think tate deserves consequences for his poor behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:56 AM
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How can you be so hypocrite? You claim female porn stars are behaving poorly by being a porn star and deserve negative consequences for being a porn star, and meanwhile you enjoy the very behavior you believe they should be punished for.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/24 05:47 AM
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How do you guys feel about porn, and how it's viewed? I would not want to be married/engaged with a man who jerks off to porn. In my background, porn also is not acceptable, as sex is considered something that should be reserved for marriage. It does seem like many women (I'm sorry ya'll, not trying to jump you) have very negative reactions when male self pleasure and porn viewing is mentioned, but have little to no aversion to female self pleasure and porn viewing. Probably not the same women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:50 PM
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They revere Tate for his personality What is admirable about a personality that lures underaged girls into sex work by the lover boy method?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:14 PM
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and also addicting millions of young boys to porn content What about young girls who are lured into sex work by lover boys like andrew tate? and turning women hyper-sexual. What do you mean? How do porn stars do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 10:11 PM
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>Male sexlessness, and orgasm gap suffer from the same problem. They both are results of a failure to communicate. For both that doesn't have to be the case at all. If you are long term sexless, it's because you don't know how to effectively communicate what you want to the gender of your choice. What should they communicate? It's entirely possible that people of the other sex don't want sex with you, even though you clearly communicate that you want to have sex with them, or maybe exactly becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:28 AM
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but nothing is done about it What could or should be done about it? To the contrary, women reward shitty behavior, Plenty of women don't do that. or take the "my body is a mystery" route and don't even know how to achieve it themselves. How are they to blame for it if they honestly don't know?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:15 AM
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Education and thoughtfulness of men might improve it, but no matter how much you educate people about it, and how thoughtful men are, a gap will always remain. That is neither men's nor women's fault, it is simply due to the difference in physicality. What could be done about the male sexlessness in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 09:09 AM
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Children need parents who truly love and care about each other and who stay faithful to each other, not parents who use each other as a fleshlight and had offspring as a byproduct of their degenerate lifestyle and mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:30 PM
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The social component is all mental and emotional needs not physical. I don’t need any of that to have sex with a girl, they are simply bonuses for me, separate altogether. Wanting to have sex with someone without caring about that person is a disgusting, degenerate desire, and certainly not something you or anyone need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 09:26 PM
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You can be RP without misogyny though. How, when part of red pill is that women generally are like irresponsible children, according to you? You can also have a mix of opinions from each pill One can have other opinions than those contained in those stupid pills. There are a lot more opinions possible outside of the "women are like irresponsible children" or "women are wonderful and can't do anything wrong". Also, caring about body count isn't original to red pill. Plenty of people did that long…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 10:39 PM
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It basically says to not be controlled by your lust Why don't you listen to the Bible? : https://np.reddit.com/r/CrazyIdeas/comments/1dvi4qz/state_funded_prostitution_for_sexless_young_men/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:47 PM
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What has that to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:39 PM
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RP: Don't simp because that will make girls be uninterested in you Matthew 5:28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. What exactly has that bible verse to do with simping? I don't think that is what most red-pillers call simping, as it cannot go together with the red pill advice to spin plates. This is probably what a lot of redpillers would consider simping: Ephesians 5:25 "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 04:30 PM

You're basically saying men should basically just jerk it indefinitely unless they want a divorce? Something like that. If his wife really doesn't love him, I would understand divorce. If circumstances prevent her from having sex, I would not consider divorce justified. If you don't want to stay loyal and faithful regardless of circumstances, find someone with the same mentality, instead of betraying someone who takes commitment very seriously. it gives the wife the whip hand over the husband Of…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:40 AM
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If a man was permanently disabled and wheelchair bound do you think his wife should stay with him regardless? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 06:09 AM
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What if he lives and runs around in the same neighborhood as the children he teaches? Do you still have no problem with a male teacher running around in tight underpants in that scenario? Is it normal for men to run around in tight underpants where you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:19 PM
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Do you run around like that yourself? And would you have no problem with your children being teached by a male teacher who runs around in tight underpants?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:13 PM
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Would you be okay with your children having a male teacher who runs around in his underpants? Let's stop having so little decency to run around in your underpants and whine when people call your lack of clothing inappropriate and distasteful.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:09 PM
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I'm from a western country but I can't remember I've ever seen a woman wearing such vulgar clothing on the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 07:02 PM
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One doesn't need a "peepee" to find it ridiculous and inappropriate if people choose to walk on the streets in their underpants.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:48 PM
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Personally I find her outfit pretty normal for jogging though, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I don't think it's normal for people to be in their underpants on the streets. It's honestly ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/24 06:46 PM
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Sad for you that you had such bad experiences with women. I cannot answer your "why" questions. All I know is that I see something different around me. I have never cheated or divorced, haven't mocked men and haven't rejected lots of men. I also don't see the women around me behave the way you described. I hope you are now together with a better woman, who doesn't hurt you. But if that is the case, I would be a bit worried about her, to be honest, considering amount of bitterness with regards to…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 07:17 PM
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Then how could his girlfriend be interested in him when he wasn't attractive for other women yet, if it depends that much on other women's interest? Wouldn't that exactly show that at least his girlfriend doesn't get influenced that much by what other women find attractive?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:56 PM
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That is a bad analogy. A woman getting a job in such a scenario, isn't doing that to enjoy herself, she is doing that out of necessity to support herself and her family. Her husband would actually benefit from it in such a scenario. Also, a job is not something intimate as sex that is supposed to not be shared with anyone outside the relationship. (Unless you mean sex work, then your analogy would make more sense.) A better analogy would be a woman whose husband initially agreed to have children…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 06:24 PM
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Depends on the contract, but in general most people don't have such a contract. No one can honestly promise that they always and forever will have sex with their partner whenever their partner wants sex. There can occur circumstances that make it impossible or very difficult for someone to have sex. Another possible cause of a dead bedroom is a problem in the west, such as lack of trust or lack of attention for each other. In that scenario it isn't the lack of sex that is the cause of breaking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 05:16 PM
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I am not cheating nor doing monkey branching. Good for you. Neither am I. Women do not have honor nor morality I do. since they are merely grown children Plenty of children do have honor and morality. Do you abstain from sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:32 PM
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Cheating has to do with breaking your promise and betraying.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:49 PM
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Your annecdotes, which may not even be true, don't prove in any way that such is true for all or most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:50 PM
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How do you define those categories?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:38 PM
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There is more in the world than your alpha and beta nonsense. Not every man fits in one of those stupid boxes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:28 PM
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No, not for me, nor for a lot of other women. It would destroy my attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 01:26 PM
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Cheating on her, will increase her attraction towards you. No. Cheating destroys marriages and relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 12:03 PM
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I agree that those percentages aren't insignificant, if true. I just have a hard time believing it is that high, exactly for the reasons you stated. I am sure it cannot be that high in my surroundings, so if those percentages are true, it must be different among various environments/cultures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:32 AM
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Your question doesn't make sense to me, because a man who wants to have sex with multiple women isn't "high value" to me. Also, any woman who loves her husband wouldn't call him "low value", no matter by what metrics you would measure his "value". Also I have a strong feeling that women's libidos get higher when they get cheated on (attraction towards the cheater increases). Your feeling isn't based in reality. In general people, including women, are devastated when they find out their spouse/pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:39 PM
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Without consensus about what is "low value", it doesn't mean much to say women don't choose low value men. And which person who loves their spouse/partner would ever say they are together with a "low value" person?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 05:25 PM
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If women don't love men, why are you together (married?) with a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:28 PM
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Pardon, mixed you up with another commenter; I see. I also saw you accused me of being "dismissive and condescending" towards you. Why do you feel that way? And do you believe you are not dismissive and condescending towards women? Despite being 1.77 times less likely to own a firearm, women are 12 times less likely to commit a justified homicide in self-defense. Given this premise, how does the conclusion follow that the only or main reason women are less likely to kill men than men to kill wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 04:20 PM
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I adjust for strength and marksmanship. Okay, then please provide statistical evidence showing that it's more common for women to attempt to kill a man, than for men to attempt to kill a woman. If you cannot provide such evidence, it's clear that adjusting for strength and markmanship isn't enough refute my previous point. 162 years of majority of divorces is not "some of them". You don't know the causes of the divorces. Not all women are committing an evil deed by divorcing. It could be possibl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 03:34 PM
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Despite women being more likely to target a person of the opposite sex for violence, men are more likely still to target men. It does not make men "evil", That some people of both sex are murderers, indeed doesn't make all people of the same sex evil. That there are more men who commit murder, doesn't make all men who aren't murderers worse than women who aren't murderers. Yet, you claim women cannot really love men, because some of them do evil deeds towards men. You base your idea of how all w…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 08:20 AM
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Women are not evil. How are people who have no love, or in fact hate, for half of humanity (men/boys), proven by their tendencies to screw men up by divorcing them for no good reason, to target men when committing violence, to kill their male children, to not prioritize feeding their male children and to commit paternity fraud, not evil? Or don't you believe that all women are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 06:48 AM
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I honestly feel sorry for you, because clearly you are in a lot of pain. Do you at least have parents or siblings or anyone else close to you who cares about you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:48 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 05:17 AM
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A man who is chaste, has chosen to wait with sex until lifelong commitment (marriage), prioritizes love and loyalty over sex, and doesn't consume porn, especially not while having a wife/girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 04:17 PM
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Not all. About the others, I'm not sure why they say it. Probably a significant part of them are just trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 09:40 PM
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Regarding all the brutality that happens in Afghanistan, the society there is at least as godless and rotten as here in the west. Forcing your 14 year old daughter to marry a man more than twice her age is not more virtuous than being promiscuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 08:06 PM
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Having things in place to protect yourself from the potential dangers of engaging with women would still be necessary And therefore advice to filter for women and distinguish between women is nonsense and you might as well get together with the most dangerous and evil woman or what? And believing that no woman is safe doesn't equate to believing that all women are dangerous How? What is the difference?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 06:36 PM
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Faulty generalization. I haven't chosen bear and plenty of women with me. And if you look at what women do, you would know that hardly anyone really chooses bear in practice.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 04:03 PM
2

What makes nudity inappropriate in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:56 PM
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The question is meant for the case you want to find a woman. Sure, if women are all that dangerous and evil or you don't have a way to figure out who aren't dangerous or evil, it is wise to stay single and celibate, and the question doesn't apply to you. For those men who want to be together with a woman though, it would be stupid not to filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:54 PM
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Okay. So you disagree with the person above who said that "no woman is safe" and that good filtering of women isn't important to protect yourself as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:39 PM
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What is nonsense about it? Any real arguments?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:34 PM
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and therefore greenflagging all or most of the rest You don't have to do that. You could just use the concept of whitelist instead of blacklist (so everyone is a red flag, unless you greenflag them). Even if most women are dangerous, how is not filtering at all going to help you? The only case in which filtering wouldn't make sense, is when all women are equally dangerous. If they are not all equally dangerous, but you refuse to filter, you are taking more risk than necessary for getting involve…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:34 PM
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So you would find it inappropriate if she hadn't covered her ass? If yes, why?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 03:08 PM
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That's not really an excuse for dressing inappropriately. If the main reason you want to wear it really is comfort, you could also wear such tight leggings with a skirt or dress, or even with a long shirt or a shorts over it. There is really no need to show your ass like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:52 PM
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Ironically women have created a system of their own oppression. So the reason women in Afghanistan are being oppressed, is because they choose and value violent, aggressive men as their sexual partners, whereas for example the USA is much less or not at all a patriarchy, because American women choose better men who are not violent and aggressive?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 11:12 AM
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Are you able to spot green flags though? If yes, how? What are green flags? How do you spot it when a woman is better than others? Or do your expectations of the worst in people cause you to believe green flags don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:53 AM
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They are not the fairer sex, they are not morally superior Do you believe men are "the fairer sex" and are morally superior, or do you believe that all men, without exceptions, are just as dangerous as women and that men have a "male nature" that is just as disgusting and evil as the "female nature"? Violent, abusive, actually bad men have zero issues attracting women They are not attracting all kinds of women equally. But if you are unable to distinguish between women and believe women are some…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:47 AM
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If no women is safe and all are equally dangerous, it doesn't matter with which woman you are together with regards to safety, so there is no need to filter for women and there cannot exist red or green flags. If in reality women aren't all equally dangerous, you are shooting yourself in the foot by believing they are equally dangerous, because that believe makes you unable to see red and green flags, because you don't believe they exist. So in case you believe all women are equally dangerous, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 01:29 AM
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If women valued male chastity more, then more men will want to be sexually modest. You could as well say: If men valued female chastity more, then more women will want to be sexually modest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 06:02 AM
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But women complaining they need to preserve their chastity to find a decent man? A truly decent man is chaste.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 05:34 AM
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All of history. No, it's not true that everywhere in all of history most women were married at age 19. _"The average age at first marriage had gradually risen again by late sixteenth century; the population had stabilized and availability of jobs and land had lessened. In the last decades of the century the age at marriage had climbed to averages of 25 for women and 27 for men in England and the Low Countries as more people married later or remained unmarried due to lack of money or resources an…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 10:31 PM
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And you understand that girls used to get married at 19 At what time period? Which country? they did much better then girls today. What did they better?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 01:56 PM
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it's often claimed that women were not allowed to vote Yeah, in almost all countries, there has been a time period in which men were allowed to vote and women weren't. But that doesn't mean that that is the habit and the time period (differs per country) that all people in every context mean when they say "traditional". There are way more people who call themselves "traditional" than people who are against the right to vote for women. In a lot of western countries, women have already about 100 y…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 12:49 PM
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My life experience confirms the red pill though. There is a world outside of your personal life experience though. My life experience contradicts red pill. Most people in the real world are red pilled, they just don’t call it that. What shows that most people in the real world are "red pilled"? What are the characteristics of being "red pilled"? And if they really are "red pilled", why don't most people acknowledge that? My friends either became players or dropped out of the dating market That s…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:37 AM
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Weird definition of "traditional". There are plenty of men with that kind of "humor" who don't call themselves traditional, and a lot of people who call themselves "traditional" have a different understanding of "traditional" than you. So the fact that there are men who call themselves traditional and have a wife, doesn't prove your earlier point that there is no correlation between misogyny and "success". Or even just boomers What do you even mean with this? All boomers are traditional and miso…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:23 AM
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I do not like what red pill claims I like.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:15 AM
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You are responsible yourself for your own faulty generalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:15 AM
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If you would have good arguments, you wouldn't need to make an ad hominem attack. Please explain in detail how OP is wrong about red pill, instead of reacting with such a meaningless comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:13 AM
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If there was, traditional men would all be single What do you mean with "traditional"? Which tradition?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 11:01 AM
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I haven’t seen men lose any rights at all legally. What about men in the USA who refuse to register for selective service? How would they not lose rights legally? And how is it not a violation of human rights if the government can legally force you to fight? Women are generally not forcibly impregnated, so that's not similar to being forced to register for selective service. I'm sure you would complain if you would obliged to register for selective broodmare for the governments potential need fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 10:30 PM

God himself said “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make for him a suitable helper.” (Genesis 2:18) It's completely normal, and not wrong, for christian to desire to have a spouse, a companion for life, with whom you might have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:30 PM
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If violent men are the only men women see, then how come that there are a lot of women, the majority, who aren't together with violent men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 06:04 PM
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Ok, but that doesn't answer my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:57 PM
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What about a woman who rejects "chad" for no one, simply because he is not compatible with her, while not yet having found some else with whom she is compatible?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:34 PM
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They should reject chad. According to OP himself, women are very entitled if they do that. He literally said: I’ve seen countless examples of women “rejecting” men way out of their league, even when they aren’t hitting on them. It is very bizarre, the level of entitlement seen in modern women is appalling. So do you disagree with OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:16 PM
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I’ve seen countless examples of women “rejecting” men way out of their league, even when they aren’t hitting on them. It is very bizarre, the level of entitlement seen in modern women is appalling. So a woman is entitled if she isn't a slut who has sex with every man "out of her league"? And do you honestly believe that "non modern" women were sluts who had sex with every man "out of their league"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/24 05:06 PM
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But we do not shame women for these things. Well some men do, but society as a whole demonizes these men for rightly calling women out. The problem is not shaming that kind of behavior in women. The problem is assuming all women are like that. Things like men catcalling women, fighting at the drop of a hat, using their strength to intimidate are natural to masculinity, and bad. No, that is not masculinity, that is bad behavior of some men. A lot of men do not have those tendencies. That more men…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 06:05 PM
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Hypergamy is a women going after men that are higher status(socially or economically often times these are linked) than herself. With men on average having a higher "status" than women on average, it's no wonder, nor unfair, that women often end up with a man of higher "status" than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:55 PM
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Well, then most women clearly are not hypergamous, as the majority of women never has an abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/24 05:49 PM

What you said about women expecting men to have a car, is probably an American thing. OP is not from USA but from a western European country. I'm also from a western European country and here it's not at all uncommon for people in big city's not to have a car. And especially at the age of OP, which is 22, most people, especially in big cities, don't have a car nor are expected to have it in order to be "datable".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 09:09 PM

I live in a big city too and women still have the standard that a guy has to have a car. Are you from the USA?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:29 PM

Most are not weird/unrealistic standards to have. The most unrealistic in your standards is calling the desire to have sex 3 times per week a "low/medium libido". On average couples have sex less then 3 three times a week. Further, if you really want to find a woman who is sure she never wants children, chances are she would want you to have a vasectomy. Another thing to consider is: why would a woman who wants a "50/50 relationship" want to be in a relationship with a man who believes in red pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 07:15 PM
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You do you. If you don't want to have children without paternity tests, find a woman who is okay with that or else dont have children. Simply because you have bad experiences with women, you don't and shouldn't have the right to force everyone to take paternity tests for their children and trust the government with their DNA. Also, just like you have had bad experiences with women, there are plenty of people around the world who have bad experiences with their governments.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:30 PM
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There is no logical reason why paternity tests shouldn't be something that happens instantly after the child is born in 100% of the cases. It might be hard to understand for you, but there will always be men who trust their wife more than the government.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:17 PM
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It's a man's RIGHT. And it is a woman's right to not want to have a child with a man who doesn't trust her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 03:11 PM
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Maybe it’s just me but even with the double standards often against men I’m very happy I’m a man vs a women, especially growing up. Could you elaborate? Why is it that you, especially while growing up, prefer being a man over being a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 06:42 AM
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It doesn't make sense to approach random strangers with whom you probably have little in common. Of course you will be rejected a lot in that way. A significant part of them would not even be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:41 PM
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Don't believe me, go on a dating app and see how much matches you get. Then look at your girlfriend's and see how many matches they get, both your "hot friend" and "ugly friend" will have plenty of matches. If dating apps are really so great for women, why are there way less women than men on dating apps? Options to do what? To date, to have sex, to marry, to start a family. Options to have sex without commitment are less than worthless. And it's simply not true that every woman has a decent amo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:34 PM
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Well, women have a lot more options, and they use their options. Which women? What kind of options? Options to do what? Are men on average more willing to marry than women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:05 PM
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What about making friends? Do you think it's easy to make close friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 10:03 PM

Have you ever read all the shit you vomit on reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 09:45 PM

Dont mother and sisters caution their younger sister hood members to date around a little before settling down? No, my mother has never given me that advice and neither have I given such advice to my younger sister. My mother has never been with another man than my father, my sister has never been with another man than my brother in law and I have never been with another man than my husband. What a load of shit. Why do you expect men to play by rules taht you abandoned years ago? You guys don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:22 PM

The decline in teen dating is not good for young people, especially men, since these early romantic relationships offer vital opportunities for developing relational skills and confidence." I don't agree. It's not good for teenagers to play around with relationships as if it isn't something serious and as if breaking hearts doesn't matter. Relationships shouldn't be regarded as play or try material. If you are too immature to choose someone to spend the rest of your life with, you should stay aw…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 05:43 PM
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Because society (feminists) tell them it’s taboo I didn't grow up in a feminist environment, yet I've never had a crush on a man that much older. I had more attention from young women after 25. Why didn't you have children with all of them? How dare you to go against nature who wants you to have children with young women? Women are much more open to dating older men than they care to admit Some definitely, also a lot not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:54 PM
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If nature really wants 18 year old women to pair up with 25+ old men, why do women prefer men close to their age, instead of men 7+ years older?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:36 PM
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And what about the children he conceives with all those hot young women? How is he going to have enough time for all his children with different mothers and on top of that be able to hide his secret for all of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:25 PM
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Imagine being 12 and your father hasn't time for you because he is whoring around with 18 year old women who he finds hot. You think that is good for a child?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 09:19 PM
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instead of marrying a young woman, ... and living happily for the rest of our lives She won't stay young for the rest of your lives... And well, it's not illegal to marry a young woman (age >= 18). However, you will be much more likely to find a young woman willing to start a family with you when you are young yourself, close to her age, than when you are more than a decade older than her. So as a man, don't waste your teenage years and twenties with promiscuous behavior and porn, and instead ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:51 PM

Why would less attractive women want to be with a bitter red pill guy who unironically believes women are all the same and don't talk to men unless they have a "nice" car and "nice" clothes and "spent" a lot of time in the gym? Why would less attractive women want to be with a man who believes it's common for women to claim to be SA victims to manipulate men and play on men's "protector instincts"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:31 PM

women wouldn't be talking to us Which women? Who is "us" in your story?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 06:21 PM
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Would you also say that to little children who are ostracized and bullied at school?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 03:22 PM
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I understand and use red-pill principles when they apply, Just curious, which red-pill principles do you use? What useful or good did you learn from red pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 02:05 PM
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Men are more virtuous and handsome than ever before. No. On average men consume way more porn and are more promiscuous, or desiring to be promiscuous, than before. They also are more overweight on average than ever before.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:42 AM
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However, do you want people who aren't your partner to also find you sexy? No, I don't want that. For example, if some random guy, or a guy you have a platonic relationship with such as a friend or coworker notices you sexually and finds you attractive, do you appreciate that? Does it make you feel better about yourself? No, it makes me feel worse and afraid. I don't want sexual attention from anyone else than my husband. Furthermore, sometimes when women in relationships go out like to bars or …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 08:13 AM
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Because once women options dried out they start to have sex with the 30 year average guy with a good job. Then how come the vast majority of men lose their virginity long (about a decade) before they turn 30? We talk about these good women yet where are they??? What makes a woman "good' in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 12:04 AM
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Women chase after the same set of guys Then how come the majority of men don't die as virgins? Which is why 1 guy is always having sex wihh the a bunch of women Those are women who (at that moment) are only looking for something casual, or women who unfortunately don't know how to build a healthy relationship. They are not a fair representation of all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:35 PM
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would you be willing to sacrifice your individual sexual freedom in such a case (and basically go back to pre-sexual revolution sexual norms). ... I will also add that there's also the option to just be single and celibate, as I think forcing someone into a relationship they don't want is abhorrent. Using your definition of "sexual freedom", it wouldn't even be a sacrifice for me not to use that "freedom", as I have zero desire to be promiscuous. Same holds for plenty of other women (and men).
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 11:27 PM
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Why do you assume that psychopathic men having more sex somehow means that they are irresistible? He didn't. He literally said: Now, I understand that correlation does not imply causation, and I'm not arguing that there is any link. I'm actually very skeptical of this theory. RTFM.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:07 PM
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If only there wasn't literally hours of women on TikTok and other spaces telling men how worthless they are. If only there weren't literally hours of men on YouTube and other spaces telling other men how bad women are. Post like this are once again trying to tell men "this mental health crisis is all in you head and 100% your own fault. Where did you read something like that in this post? Please provide a literal quote of OP, proving your point. By the way, what would you say to women who are in…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:48 PM
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The issue is, you think women deserve trust instantly. How do you know he thinks that? If you are that great in reading people's thoughts, that would not even be an issue for you in the first place. You wouldn't have to be afraid of getting to trust an untrustworthy woman, you could just read her thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:33 PM
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There are over 2 billion adult women on earth, so no wonder that they not all have the same wants and needs. NAWALT. But if you cannot understand that women are individuals instead of a hivemind, I get that it must be very confusing for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 06:27 PM
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I don't consume porn and I don't contribute to the production of porn, so I'm not a hypocrite for hating porn. I have the right to have my own standards and boundaries and I'm completely free to not want to be in a relationship with a man who consumes porn. No matter how hard you whine, I will never want to be together with a man who consumes porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 02:22 PM
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Speak for yourself instead of unfairly depicting all men as disgusting sex addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 09:04 AM
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Its not men's biological nature to consume porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:59 AM
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How are real life women supposed to even compete with that? Why would real life women want to compete with that in the first place? I would rather be single than be in a relationship with a man who consumes porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 07:54 AM
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dude came here to ask what he can do to not be seen as creepy, i told him. you didn't like what i said and came to state that you disagree and don't want people to think the way i'm describing You literally said it "is creepy behavior", instead of "is considered creepy behavior". Also, men aren't walking with a text on their forehead stating they are there merely to meet women. Their motivation behind their presence is not observable behavior, and thus cannot be perceived as creepy unless he rev…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 11:18 PM
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cool opinion man 👍 I'm a woman. i'm talking about the general perception though General perception of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:53 PM
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sorry man, going places that aren't for meeting women to meet women is creepy behavior and you aren't going to escape that perception while doing it unless you're exceptionally charismatic. No, it doesn't have to be creepy. People participate in all sorts of activity to connect with other people. It is possible, and even common, for people to like being in mixed-sex groups more than in groups consisting of only people of their own sex. Also, a man is not creepy for desiring to find a woman to sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 10:47 PM

I'm not lying, so no wonder that you can't prove that I'm lying. Proving something that isn't true, is always going to be very difficult, or in fact impossible... And what about the other things I said? Don't you want to challenge you views and have a fair debate? Are my arguments to difficult to refute? Ignoring them is of course much easier and convenient...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 10:21 PM

Then don't be so stupid to try to be compatible with "women", but look for a decent woman you are compatible with. No man is compatible with "women" in general. Take the time to get to know some women in person, as individuals. If you are right, then how come I'm married to a loving and reliable man who hates (social) darwinism? How come my father isn't a ruthless social darwinist? How come my brother in law is together with my sister, while not being a social darwinistic asshole? How come my un…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 09:50 PM

Women are never under the impression that being a decent person. was enough. Enough for what? For a woman wanting to spend their whole life together with you and offer her body to bear your children? Then of course just being decent is not going to be enough. You also need to be compatible, being able to understand each other, connect emotionally with each other, and it takes time to get to know someone properly. Why on earth did you expect that merely being decent would be enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 06:28 PM

Women are never under the impression that being a decent person. was enough. Enough for what? For a woman wanting to spend their whole life together with you and offer her body to bear your children? Then of course just being decent is not going to be enough. You also need to be compatible, being able to understand each other, connect emotionally with each other, and it takes time to get to know someone properly. Why on earth did you expect that merely being decent would be enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:24 PM

(Seriously we need to inculcate values of selfishness and ruthless competition in kids in middle school to begin with. We need to break the concept of love, and the possibility of idealized love in them) Why? If the world really is like that, children don't need to be teached selfishness and ruthless competitiveness, because they already are like that. If children are not like that, the world will become even an worse place if they get teached your nonsense. This in my opinion is proof that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/24 05:11 PM

What is the problem with attraction having to grow over time? Attraction can be based on more than just the physical, and can be much stronger and more stable if it is based on more than just the physical. My attraction for my now husband grew over time. He is not at all my second or worse choice. I have never been with another man and I don't wish for any other man than my husband. We got together in our early twenties.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 06:56 PM
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Polygamy doesn't benefit women who want mutual love in their marriage (and neither does it benefit men). Having the option of being a rich men's second wife, is similar to having the option to prostitute yourself. It doesn't have anything to do with love. Most women don't want to be a prostitute and clearly prefer earning their own money over being some men's second wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:36 PM

Most men are not having a lot of casual sex because it is difficult for men to have nsa sex. Really sad if the only or most important reason most men don't have lots of casual sex, is that they can't find lots of women willing to hook up with them. Hope that isn't true, and most men are actually decent instead of so depraved.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 08:14 PM

How common? Could you please provide a reliable source showing what percentage of American women and what percentage of American men engage in promiscuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 05:02 PM

Women will give walking red flags their bodies, often rawdog/no pull out sex, sometimes within hours of meeting them. Some women indeed do that, and they are just red flags themselves. There also are plenty of women who don't engage in such behavior. Projecting the behaviour of female red flags on the entire female population is just as stupid as projecting the behaviour of male red flags on the entire male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 04:38 PM
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Because once they have had their children they are only harming themselves if they pick a useless degree. Not their children. How is throwing money away while having children less harmful for those children than throwing money away while not having children (yet)? I don't know how old you are, but if you went in the last 20 years you must have noticed a promiscuous culture. Of course some resist. Mid twenties. I have not noticed that people who go/went to university are more promiscuous than peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 11:38 AM
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disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 10:49 AM
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Why should anyone be blamed? The orgasm gap is neither men's nor women's fault, it's mainly due to the physical differences between men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:35 AM
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Women can cum from getting their nipples sucked on. This is not common at all. Actually, women are a lot less likely to be able to cum from nipple simulation alone, than from piv alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 09:14 AM
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You can't take enough time off to have children without quitting your job. Each child requires minimum 2 years off for best outcomes. Even if you don't work for 10 years straight, it will be easier to find a halfway decent job after those years when you have a useful degree and some relevant work experience, and especially when you go on educating yourself/staying up to date in your field during those years, than when you only have done some easy, low paid student job without an proper education…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 10:45 PM
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Why take a student loan, and spend 3+ years with no income, just to have a kid at 22. If it's really about completely useless degree, you would have a point. However, if it isn't a useless degree, it certainly is easier to find a decent paying job while having a degree and having taken some time off for the child(ren), than without a degree at all and still having taken the same time off. Better to work in ECE, save money, and learn relevant skills. So young women should work with the children o…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 09:42 PM
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It would make more sense for women to have their kids young in peak fertile years, between 23-28, then go study once the youngest is 5 (school). This would have a girl having her last child at 28 start studying at 33. A mother of 33 years is so much more mature and disciplined to study than a girl of 19. So why should a woman not study between 19 and 23? If a 19 year old woman is too immature to study, how would she be mature enough to find a good, reliable husband and how would she be mature en…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 06:39 PM

I agree with you. Even if you aren't drafted in the end, it's still disgusting that others have the legal right to force you to fight, risking your life, body, mental health and conscience.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 10:04 PM

I still had to sign up to potentially be cannon fodder when I turned 18. That's sad. The solution shouldn't be conscription for women, but abolishing conscription for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:42 PM
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If a woman time and time again ends up with abusive men, that says more about her taste in men, than about men in general, right? Whether someone's bad taste is completely their own fault, I don't know. Anyway, claiming women in general are bad, because you keep running into bad women, is just as stupid as claiming men in general are bad, because you keep running into bad men. In both cases it says more about what kind of people you surround yourself with, than about half of humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:51 PM
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That says more about your taste in women than about women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 11:51 AM
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Women are not men: you just don't function fast. Attraction biulds up for you as you get involved, Then why do you want women to have sex immediately, before attraction has built up, as you say? Also, men don't function with a relationship mindset from the very head start. Speak for yourself. We want to know you too, but we don't want to be simultaneously risking rejection, risking ghosting, planning for dates, paying things up, coping with lack of reciprocity Planning and paying for a date with…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:15 AM
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There are plenty of men and women who never have casual sex and who wait with sex until commitment. In your opinion they just consider everyone ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:48 AM
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In your opinion, there is a bad thing going on. I don't agree that there is a bad thing going on, so your question makes no sense to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:45 AM
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can we agree that both situations are asking for a bad thing to stop (figuratively speaking)? It doesn't make sense to ask for a bad thing to stop if there is not a bad thing going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:31 AM
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Men's sexuality is not the same as wanting to have casual sex either. There are a lot of men who don't want/like to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:18 AM
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Checking awareness of what? Your whole question is disingenuous. It is similar to asking a man who has never beaten his wife: Have you stopped beating your wife? How are you supposed to answer such a question? I simply don't agree with you that not wanting to have casual sex is problematic and messing things up, so that makes your question impossible to answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 06:15 AM

you said name you examples of women going into men spaces and changing them and i gave them. You gave examples of "men's spaces", for which it is not justified that they should only be for men. government was dominated by men than women cried there weren't enough and there were too many men, and they deserved a space. And according to you they don't deserve a space? women shouldnt vote. Why? well we have to be drafted someone has to fight for our country If people don't want to fight for their c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 07:25 AM

the workforce "The workforce is the total number of people in a country or region who are physically able to do a job and are available for work." So according to you, are women not physically able to do any job? Should women not be allowed to do any work and earn money? Why? the government The government does not only govern over men, but also over women. So why should the government be an only men's space? the military Sure, but then don't complain that women are allowed to vote, while not bei…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:58 AM

but imo there have been women coming into men spaces in order to change them and make them more inclusive towards them basically taking over the space. Which men's spaces specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 06:13 AM
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Wouldn’t that just be a friendship? What do you understand by "friendship"? And what do you understand by "relationship"? To have a meaningful debate, you first need to explain what exactly you mean by "friendship" and "relationship". If they are asexual. What would they be!doing with their partner that’s different than a normal friendship. If theirs nothing sexual involved? If "relationship without sex/children" = "friendship" and "relationship without sex/children" = pointless, you can conclud…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:02 AM

An intense desire to be around them, What causes that desire? Is it something completely random? Why wouldn't you desire to be around someone who "checks all of your boxes" like OP said? an intense sexual pull So that is the "#1 most important thing" to you in a relationship? Sounds similar to men who would like to leave their wife for some "hot" 20 year old after she reaches a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:29 PM

when you meet someone sometimes a feeling of strong connection If chemistry equals a strong connection, chemistry is something you develop over time, rather than something that you have immediately when meeting someone for the first time, right? Feeling a "strong connection" with someone you just met and barely know, is just an illusion. being on the same wavelength can occur Here you can read more about wavelength: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wavelength
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 10:08 PM
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Plus, people typically don’t assume the worst in others. That’s a disorder if you do. So it isn’t that red flags are ignored so much as you don’t assume someone is intentionally trying to hurt you. Then the disorders are rampant here, considering the number of women who would rather encounter a bear than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 09:57 PM

"Most women are not going to date a guy that doesn't give them the feels." Which "feels"? Now, I've spent YEARS learning how to get women to feel like we have bigtime chemistry. As people seem to have a hard time giving a definition of "chemistry", I'm curious, how would you define "chemistry"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 07:06 PM
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Then please explain to us what it is. Without definition, the word makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:56 PM
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What exactly do you mean by "chemistry"?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:32 PM
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The chemistry is required for the connection. Why should i marry someone who does not meet my social needs? So by "chemistry" you understand something that fulfills a social need of yours, but that is different from "connection". I'm just curious, what exactly do you mean by chemistry? And what social need other than connection do you have?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 06:30 PM
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What do you mean with "chemistry", other than the scientific study of the properties and behavior of matter? I honestly don't get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 05:56 PM
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I have great respect for the fact that you stick to your virtuous principles. May God bless you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 07:57 PM
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If sex is not something special you reserve for commitment, it makes no sense to expect your partner to be monogamous anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 04:15 PM
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My point is inexperienced women are almost non existent. Even if you are right about that, you still have not explained why it would be worth throwing your values away in order to be able to eventually settle for an sexually experienced woman who doesn't like sexually inexperienced men. They are very small in numbers as compared to their male counterparts. Do you have actual statistics to back up that claim? What I could find is a study that found 58% of young adult virgins in Switzerland are ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 12:43 PM
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You did not refute my point. Most of his options would be experienced women and they don't want inexperienced men If he does not want an "experienced" woman, it is completely irrelevant for him that those women don't want an "inexperienced" man. Following your advice increases his chance to find a woman he doesn't really want, while it decreases his chanche to find a woman he would actually want. Women who reject a man because of "too little" sexual experience, will not be reliable wives anyway,…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 11:02 AM
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My husband and I started having sex years prior to marriage. If we waited, we’d lose on 5 years of great sex. Not necessarily, you could just have married earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:59 AM
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Yiu dint have to screw everything that moves, but having someone experience under your belt as to what you really want in a partner is important. My first time having sex was awkward and disappointing., trust me it's not that serious If having sex is not that serious, why would it be so important to have sexual experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:54 AM
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id rather check sexual compatibility beforehand That only applies to those who prioritize sex over their (future) spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:51 AM
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How do you establish "compatibility"? What is the "compatibility"? What part of the "compatibility" can you not find out by talking to each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:48 AM
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So it will cause problems for you in finding a partner later What kind of partner though? Maybe it would be more difficult to find an "experienced" woman as a partner, but would he want such a partner in the first place? If a man is not going to settle for a woman with a high body count, sleeping arount is not at all going to increase his chance on finding a wife. Women who want to save themselves for marriage often prefer a man who does the same. Women with a low body count, often don't want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:43 AM
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So, what does it mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:36 AM
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Well, that also shows that the widespread idea that having sex before commitment is necessary to check whether you are "sexually compatible", is utter nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:35 AM
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And you can love a few people before you marry. You "love" a person so much that you want to have sex with them, but not want to spend your life together with them and stay loyal to them? That does not sound like real love.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:30 AM
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But, also, I'm not sure why marriage is the evidence of two people loving each other and not having little regard for one and other. If people don't love each other and have little regard for each other, they still can make the choice to get married, but it would be foolish. However, if two people really love and trust each other, want to spend the rest of their lives together in good and bad circumstances, maybe would like to have children together, why wouldn't they get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:23 AM
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That's no valid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:17 AM
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I am not religious, mind you, but I want to save myself for marriage. I think intercourse is a thing reserved for two people who love each other, it should not be committed with little regard towards the other person, like some who hook up. I completely agree with you, and that is not just due to my religion. We don't need a religion to justify this view on intercourse. Am I being too idealistic? Is there any hope for me? Maybe idealistic, but not too idealistic. It's good to have certain ideals…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 08:46 AM
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out of 100 women, 95 women would own makeup This is hugely influenced by time and culture. Thus, it’s reasonable to presume that appearance is of high importance. There is a a huge difference between claiming that women care about their appearance and claiming that women are so superficial that their "highest concern is mere appearance and beauty".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:46 AM
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yet independently came to the same conclusions about women Which same conclusions? They have 3 different conclusions, namely Women are pathological liars Women are children Women are inferior. What is the similarity between those 3 conclusions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 10:16 AM
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This is not relevant for the comment you replied to, as it does not at all show that it does not apply to men. A man who sleeps around cannot be taken seriously by a woman who doesn't sleep around and wants to have a good husband and father.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 12:43 AM
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What exactly do you mean with "unpopular" other than that no women are having sex with them? Yet it still happens. What still happens? I'm curious what would be your answer to these two questions: Do you believe it is wrong/immoral to cast people out and to look down on others? 2. Is not wanting to have sex with some man the same as casting him out and looking down on him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 10:01 PM
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Sorry for misunderstanding you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 08:45 PM
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If someone on this sub would say that men are sexually insatiable and enslaved to carnal pleasure, you would strongly disagree with them and probably consider them a misandrist, yet you have no problems claiming this shit about women. Somewhat hypocrital, I would say. You will not debunk myths about male sexuality, by inventing/supporting myths about female sexuality...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:37 PM
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I have not outcast anyone, nor do I look down on virgin men. Not wanting to have sex with someone is not the same as outcasting him or looking down on him. this is what happened to them Evidence? Again, a woman not having sex with a man, is not the same as her outcasting him or her looking down on him. As a woman, I have done nothing to men, so I don't deserve such pointless hate or being called wicked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:24 PM
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Well, where is his mind today (which is after April 19, 2024)?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:13 PM
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"Ah yes, shaming tactics, the tool of the superior intellect." someone on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 07:00 PM
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Have you been outcast by all women? Do all women look down on you? What exactly have I done to you, that justifies hating me or considering me wicked, simply for being a woman (something that I did not even choose to be, but just happened to be)?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 06:35 PM
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Is it really unity though? One of them considers women as pathological liars, one considers them as children and one considers them as inferior. So, are children objectively inferior to adults/men in all aspects of life? Are children pathological liars? Are all women or even the majority really, objectively pathological liars? Are (female) pathological liars inferior to other criminals (of whom the majority is male)? What exactly is the characteristic of women they would all agree on? What exact…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 04:52 PM
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What exactly do you mean with "women's equality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/24 03:30 PM
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And with all the support in the world, Women literally choose to be Sex workers on Onlyfans than join stem. 18% of the female workforce works in stem: https://ncses.nsf.gov/pubs/nsf23315/report/the-stem-workforce. Now, please provide a source proving more than 18% of the female workforce is on onlyfans, or be so fair to admit you were wrong. They would rather sexualize themselves as jailbait for Old fat dudes with money than make the world a better place. So you agree that these men are not maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 09:02 AM
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If you went on a date with me Well, that's a huge "if". Women who don't want have sex with a man they don't even know (yet), probably sense that you are not the right person for them to go on a date with.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:27 AM
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Yeah, you would happily have a child without your wife having access to medical care, because women have done that for thousands of years. Easy, when it doesn't directly impact your body.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:21 AM
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I live minilism and dont need material thimgs to be happy. So you are happily homeless and never use a bathroom?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:14 AM
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Most women have no clue how the world works. It's more you who have no clue about the world, if you really believe women in general are like the caricature you described. A Woman would destroy her entire family because she got bored. Most women don't do that. And has no man ever destroyed his family because he got bored and cheated? All comes from the labor of men. And where do men come from? Who birthed and nursed them?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 08:12 AM
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Indeed, women exclusively consoom for consumption sake, for some reason. I'll never understand it myself. I guess they're just pure hedonists? The comment section here is full of men claiming their only or most important purpose in life is putting their penis in a vagina, yet women are the hedonists? You can tell this is true because every billionaire man on the planet still chases tail like a highschool fuck boi. Most billionaires probably don't even have the time for that, and plenty of rich m…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:56 AM
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I mean, the entire driving force of my very existence is sex first. Then it's time to seek help for your sex addiction. Sex is a tiny sacrifice when you remove the baggage of our social ideals. It's worth crazy huge amounts of money. Who are you to decide it's a "tiny sacrifice" for other people? It's not. I would never want to do "sex work", not even for a billion dollars. By the way, if sex work is just a "tiny sacrifice" do you also consider rape just a "tiny inconvenience"? I think women are…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:42 AM
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You think men need to live in a good” expensive neighborhood Would you prefer your children to grow up in a ghetto or to have a one room apartment for your whole family? near “good” expensive schools? In general, schools are for free in my country. I thought that is also the case in the USA. And need multiple expensive SUVs and Minivans to make mommy happy? Says who? How many families in real life really have multiple SUVs and Minivans? As a woman, you really have no idea what men have to spend …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 07:09 AM
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If allowing women to vote was such a bad decision, maybe the group of people who allowed women to vote, shouldn't be allowed to vote either. :) By the way, if it is dumb to believe men are more dangerous than bears, based on the actions of some men, wouldn't it also be dumb to believe women are too dumb to vote, based on the statements of some women on the internet?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 10:41 AM
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Men will grab the free sex opportunity first and then reject. Why do you assume that a woman showing interest in a man is the same as her offering free sex to him? It's perfectly possible to let someone know you are interested in him, while still take the time to get to know him and develop a good, stable relationship, before jumping into the bed. The problem is not women initiating, the problem is letting people get into your bed way too soon. Taking initiave and showing interest, doesn't absol…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 08:54 AM
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Well, if men cannot be trusted, how is them taking initiative with showing interest going to prevent you from being used? And no, it is not true that all men cannot be trusted. For your own well-being, you should be responsible for maintaining your own boundaries. It's simple: don't let a man have sex with you before you are truly committed to each other. Wait with sex until marriage. Or at the very least, before having sex, get to know each other very well, have deep conversations together, fin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:18 PM
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Took advantage of the fact someone found them attractive, used them, and discarded them. How? In what way did they take advantage of you? In what way did they use you? The last guy I had dated, told me right off the bat that me finding him attractive was a huge ego boost for him. Then, while dating him, Imagine you had not told him that you found him attractive, and instead he initiated and showed interest in you, would you have started dating him in that case? If no, why not, considering you fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 10:50 PM
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But, in most cases, my vulnerability never really worked out for me. And of the guys (except for one) I were honest with, they took advantage of the fact an attractive woman was into them, and ended up using and discarding me. In what way did they take advantage of you? Isn't it possible to show interest in someone, without allowing them to (immediately) take advantage of you? You could tell a man you are interested in him, while still waiting with sexual stuff until mariage or at least until yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 02:03 PM
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So in your opinion, allowing someone to be raped or murdered when you have the power to prevent it, is similar to not having sex with someone who desires to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 09:58 PM
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Do you even know what sub you're in lol? Yes, I know and we don't need to make it a worse place than it already is. There is no need to react to this man based on the bad comments of some other men. And no sane person thinks men in general are evil. There are a lot of non-sane persons, especially among loud people on the internet. when he hasn't even shown a basic understanding of womens issues in any of his replies? This post wasn't about women's issues in the first place. Why be an "ally" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/24 12:16 AM
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(since a bear is just an animal and a man is capable of sadism, etc) Women are also capable of sadism, just like men. So do you therefore feel safer with a bear in the woods than with a random woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:57 PM
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I can imagine it hurts when women say that being with a bear is safer than being with a man. (To me it also hurts to some extent when I see all the shit redpillers say about women.) Personally, I see a bear certainly as more dangerous than an average man, and I'm sure so do a lot of women. It's just that that is not such an "interesting" opinion to shout over the internet, so you won't come across a lot of women literally saying that men are (on average) less dangerous than a bear or that they f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:52 PM
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Why do you think that, and what would be so funny about that? Do you think men cannot have any other feelings than "wanting sex"? If no, why are you so quick with ascribing this man's post and comments to "wanting sex" and not to other feelings? What I see here is not a man who "wants sex", but a man who feels hurt by how part of women on the internet generalize men and how men are seen as evil by default by part of society. I see someone who just longs for a bit of affirmation and positive word…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:36 PM
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I can't speak for all women, but yeah, it definitely is to me. I respect celibate men who do not use porn a lot more than men who sleep around or who "need" porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:02 PM
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the conversion coefficients wouldn't be in the 100s Decides who? yes 100 whores > 1 virgin On what basis? I'm sure there exist plenty of men who would prefer 1 virgin over 100 whores. Also, what you are describing wouldn't happen in real life, that's not how it works. What doesn't happen in real life? A man who only attracts promiscuous women or a man who only attracts one virgin woman, or both? Preselection is a thing and a man attracts proportional amounts of whores and virgins usually. So do …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:31 PM
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So a man who attracts 100 whores (and no other women) is of "higher value" than a man who attracts 1 virgin woman (and no other women)? Your view only makes sense if all women are equal in "value". So do you consider all women equal in "value"? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:47 PM
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High Value Man = Has a lot of women interested in him So a man who has a bunch of female drug addicts, drunk whores or gold diggers interested in him, has a higher "value" than a man who has a low n-count woman interested in him, who wants to spend her life with him, wants to be loyal to him forever and wants to have children with him? Do women all have the same "value" and is every woman's interest equally valuable in your red pill ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 05:15 PM
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I do get to decide what i do with my child. So you decide for your wife whether she is allowed to breastfeed or not? Well, you do you, but it would be fair to let her know before you have a child together. Have zero clue what your misandry has to do with this. Zero clue why you accuse me of misandry. So nothing you write after is relevant. How is the chance on non-deadly complications not relevant? It wont affect women when men take time off too. Why should men have exactly as much time off as w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:22 PM
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If going to work is crushing and prevents you from bonding with your child, why would you want your wife/girlfriend who just gave birth and is still physically recovering, to work and earn all the money while you sit at home? If working really prevents people from bonding with their child, why would you want the mother of your child to work shortly after giving birth? If you really have a job that is that terrible and prevents you from bonding with your child, maybe it's time to look for another…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 09:05 PM
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Sure, I never said anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 07:51 PM
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bottle feeding is an option. That's not what every woman wants for her child, if they are able to breastfeed. You don't get to decide for women whether they should bottle feed instead of breastfeed. Breastfeeding is a natural part of being a mother, and doesn't have to disappear because some men don't want to work and instead want the woman who just birthed his child to work for him. What do you think happens to the child if the mother dies due to complications during child birth? That's quite r…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 06:52 PM
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That still costs a lot of energy and time, so it will still have an impact on the mother in a way it doesn't have on the father. Also, it might be emotionally more difficult for a mother to pump milk like, than to give directly to her baby.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 05:46 PM
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Most of the time, it is the man who has to shoulder the emotional labor. If a man comes home after work and ignores his wife for a couple of weeks, then the woman will usually file for divorce. So not ignoring your spouse for a couple of weeks is the same as "providing emotional labor"? Well, using this definition, most women in relationships certainly provide emotional labor, because they don't ignore their husband/boyfriend for a couple of weeks. to justify the lack of performance by women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:47 AM
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I do think there is some deep urge in most humans to seek sex and companionship that you simply cannot erase. Maybe it is a lot stronger in men than women There is zero evidence that men desire companionship more than women. The problem is that too many men prioritize sex over companionship. (Even in your comment you mentioned sex before companionship.) For a woman, with the companionship of a man, often comes the obligation to have sex. Not all women want or are able to have sex often enough to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:10 AM

taking into account both long and short term relationships What is the difference between a "long term" and "short term" relationship? Do people at the start of their relationship decide that they want to stay together for 2 months or 5 years, for example? Or does every "long term relationship" start as a "short term relationship"? Do you feel like you actually have an advantage over men in terms of relationships? To answer your question: No. For every women in a good relationship, there is a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 07:29 AM

Until you can't even get it, once you can't even get it you'll know how it fucking sucks. I've never had men chasing me for sex. Also, I don't miss it all. So, no, that doesn't suck at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:33 PM

Until even this disappear. Can you prove it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:32 PM

Women are never alone, she may feel but she's never alone period Do you also think that children are never alone? Can little girls not be bullied and ostrazised by their peers? The moment a girl reaches puberty she can no longer experience loneliness, according to you? From my own experience I can tell you that being a girl or a woman doesn't make it impossible to be lonely. The fact that she can just jump on any dating app and get sex in 5 minutes alone already acts soothng any sense of lonelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:29 PM
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First of all, "bluepill" only exists in your ideology, it doesn't exist outside of redpill. Bluepill men are still attracted to young women, and when confronted about age gap relationships they just say "I didn't know how old she was when we met, then I just fell in love". There are plenty of men who are not redpillers and are young themselves, so of course they are going to be attracted to young women. However, the average non-redpill man is not chasing women who are 10+ years younger than him.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 03:42 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 07:27 AM
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Yes. Most women already have a husband/boyfriend, so most of them probably wouldn't be open to any of those men anyway. But even if we would consider only the single women, most still wouldn't want either of those two random men. Normal people don't spend a huge part of their life romantically intimate with someone just because he/she is "hot" and rich. Normal people want to spend their life with someone they are compatible with, and who they trust. Being "hot" and rich might be a pro, but it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/24 12:00 AM
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most women would the rich, hot and tall guy over the Starbucks worker, short and fat. No, if you would randomly propose two strangers (one out of each of those categories), most women would want neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:28 PM
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Its a personal preference I share with the majority of men. Sure, but my question is, why? What is exactly the problem you have with it? What is the reasoning behind your preference? If you cannot provide any actual reason for your preference, well, wanting my man not to watch porn is just my personal preference that I share with a lot of women. And it's a moot point because producing is not consuming. I don't have to choose because you are incorrectly equating the two. It's just two parties of …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/24 12:07 AM
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So, would you consider it any more problematic if your girlfriend/wife would produce sexual explicit content (for money) than if she would be a normal actress? If yes, what exactly is the problem, since it isn't signaling availability? My point is, it is hypocritical to jerk off to sexual images of other women, while not wanting your wife/girlfriend to produce sexual images for other men. Either, consuming sexual images of random women on the internet doesn't mean anything, but then your girlfri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 07:37 PM
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I need some type of connection. What is the "connection" you want, if you don't want commitment, and in fact only sex? What kind of "connection" do you want, if you even want to lie (in the future) in order to convince a woman to have sex with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:13 PM
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It's mostly men, not women, that spread that narritive, especially on this subreddit. They are probably men who want to justify their depravity and not feel bad about themselves by pretending all men are just as depraved as themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 03:54 PM
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Your reply doesn't contain any reasonable argument, only a personal attack.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:08 PM
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I honestly don't understand your reply. Where did she demonise the preferences of a man who actually be holds himself to the same standard, by being chaste and faithful himself, and not wanting to watch other women than his wife/girlfriend in a sexual way? All I got from it is that she criticized hypocrite men. The only problem I see with her comment, is that it seems to accuse all men of that hypocrisy, although that is probably not what she really meant. Also, what has your last sentence to do…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 01:03 PM
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Then why wouldn't it be reasonable to consider the line also be crossed if a man (in a monogamous relationship) is looking for other women than his wife/girlfriend who are signaling sexual availability? Or, if watching sexual images/movies of women is not the same as watching women who signal sexual availability, then it follows that a woman who is providing sexual images of herself to other men is not the same as her signalling sexual availability.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:35 PM
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Is providing pictures of food (for compliments or whatever) the same as delivering the actual food? If jerking of to sexual pictures of others is not unfaithful, why would it be unfaithful to provide sexual pictures to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 12:18 PM
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The video does not make sense, because the use of the words "good" and "bad" makes no sense at all. Being able to invest a lot of money and/or time does not make a man morally better than a man who isn't able to do that. Wearing "representable" clothes does not make a man morally better than a man who wears worn out clothes. Having good looks or being "masculine" doesn't make a man morally worse than an ugly man who isn't "masculine". (By the way, if you agree with the video, you apparently beli…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 12:52 PM
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The rationale of this post is crazy, calling people creepy because you don't like them is okay because It's even crazier. The title could easily be understood as: calling people creepy, because they don't desire you, is okay. So if a woman rejects you, it's okay to call her creepy because of that, according to the title. The title namely says: "it’s okay for someone to call a person creepy if they are not desirable to that person". It seems, "that person" refers to "a person", and if so, "they" …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:54 PM
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Then what’s the motive? What’s going through this hypothetical killer’s mind during the murder? For example someone with a psychose, or someone with the believe that their child is possessed by a demon, or who somehow believes some god ordered them to kill their child, or someone who believes in a very bizarre conspiracy theory. The majority of murderers are not psychotic. Psychose and psychopathy aren't the same. And the reason that the majority of murderers aren't psychopatic is not because th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 11:36 PM
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Where are you getting the idea that you have to set your emotions aside to murder your own son? Well, yeah, someone who doesn't feel any affection for their child, wouldn't have to put that aside in such a scenario. That's not normal though. Most murders are committed during heat of the moment, emotional outbursts. That's not all murders, there are plenty of premeditated murders. Also, the reason most people aren't murderers isn't because they don't experience strong emotions, but exactly becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:04 PM
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Again, you seem to think that logic is just the absence of emotions. Just because someone isn't experiencing emotions, or is suppressing their emotions, it doesn't mean that they are thinking logically. Some decisions, like sending soldiers into battle, do force you to set your emotions aside. Whether some conclusion (and following decision) is logically valid, depends on the premises. Just because you need to put certain emotions aside to do X, it doesn't mean that "do X" is automatically a log…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 07:10 PM
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However, men are more likely to suppress their emotions. Thus, men are less likely to make decisions out of emotion instead of logic. Funny how this isn't even logically valid). Given the sole premise "men are more likely to suppress their emotions", it doesn't follow that "men are less likely to make decisions out of emotion instead of logic". You need more premises to be able to draw that conclusion. You seem to think that logic is just the absence of emotions, which clearly is not the case. B…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 06:45 PM

You clearly deserved to be called that. But even if you would not have deserved it, your reaction would still be completely inappropriate and disproportionate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 03:49 PM

I feel sorry for what you went through. Please don't let that piece of shit above ruin your day, because he certainly is not worth it. Wish you all the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:49 AM

And I'm pathetic? Well at least my body still belongs to me and wasn't turned into meat. What an evil, disgusting thing to write to anyone, let alone as a response to someone who just told she was raped in a terrible way. It is clearly one of the worst comments (if not the worst) I've ever seen. And well, if you have power over you own body, use your body for something good, instead for writing evil things on reddit. Repent from this, or you will sooner or later reap what you sowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 06:37 AM

No offense but I don't think you should speak for men as a woman. Just because you are a man, it doesn't mean that you represent all men. There are plenty of men with experiences and opinions different from yours. any sex still helps a lot. It's still validation and helps stabilize you How are you sure this is not simply a placebo effect?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 08:14 AM
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If she had children with multiple men, I don't want to be the last in the list. Two questions about this: Why not? Would you still have a problem with it, if you eventually wouldn't end up being the last in the list, but somewhere in the middle? If engineers did not consider people as object, there would be no weight limit in elevators. Do you think that safety requirements are bad? Well guess what, the safety of your car was designed with a dummy, you know, "people as object". And that's not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 07:27 PM
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Maybe. How can one judge that solely from your premises? ... No way I would want a child with such a woman How does this go together? If you cannot judge whether she is a good mother solely from my premises, why are you so certain that you would not want a child with such a woman? Sexual instinct exists for animals. Humans are animals and they possess this too. The other forms of love (agape, xenia, philia, etc.) don't really exist among animals thus eros is the most basic form of love. So how e…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 07:19 PM

If I may ask, for what reason(s) do you choose to wear a hijab? And what is your opinion about women who don't cover their hair in public?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 11:55 AM
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How big of a concern would it be for you if your children/potential children reached adult age without any romantic success? If with "adult age" you mean 18, I wouldn't be concerned about it at all. I would rather be concerned if they would have romantic relationships well before 18, because most minors are way to immature and don't know themselves well enough for lifelong commitment to someone. Most relationships between minors don't last and just cause heartbreak. Also, it is completely normal…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:05 PM

He took personal offense to a phrase that wasn’t directed at him Not just personal offense, he explained that it is problematic to call your own child a "loser" for struggling to socialize. And how isn't it an (personal) insult to everyone who struggles with it? Are the only people who you would consider "losers" for struggling with socializing, your own (future) children? and also to the use of “LMAO” in a general sense. In the way you used it, you showed disdain for him. I can’t help that. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:55 PM

So what? You don't have to be a jerk, you could just be kind to people, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 06:11 PM
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In Greek, "love" translates into different word. One of them is "Eros". It's only because your definition of love is restrictive when you're on the receiving end that you don't think that sexual attraction is love. Let's consider a woman who "loves" a lot of random men in the sense of "Eros". She feels attracted to a lot of random male bodies, has sex with a lot of random men, has children with multiple men, (regardless of their status, money or looks) and doesn't ask the fathers for child suppo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 01:45 PM
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I've hooked up with fuckboys but I never considered them as bf material. There is something I don't understand about this: Why would/should any non fuckboy consider you gf material at this point? Why would hooking up with women like you, disqualify fuckboys from being bf material, but why would hooking up with fuckboys, not disqualify you from being gf material? Or in other words, what makes you any better relationship material than fuckboys, when you essentially engaged in the same acts?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:50 AM
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women love men who slept around alot *women who slept around themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:30 AM
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That's not exactly true. There are women (including myself) who want(ed) to marry a virgin man. But most often these women are virgin themselves, waiting for marriage. For virgin women who are waiting with sex for marriage it's quite normal to prefer a virgin man. And even for women who aren't virgin but also aren't promiscuous, it is normal to not want a promiscuous man. Most women who don't mind or even like promiscuity in men, are promiscuous themselves, or at least see no problem in female p…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 08:22 AM
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A man that my friends know or that other women have had successful relationships with is a better investment in my book If the relationship truly is successful, he would not be available for you to date/have a relationship with anyway, unless his wife/girlfriend has died (and even in such case, it would be suspicious if he would immediately after her death be open to date again). A broken relationship is not a successful relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:37 PM

We are animals Animals don't wear clothes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 11:17 AM

Home is a safe place for every person, and family is a safe environment. ... A normal family does not sexualize comfort and safety, but prioritizes the safety of its family members. She is not just at home in a private space, she is in that clothing on the internet, which is a public space. Why should everyone it consider normal and fine if people go to public spaces in their underwear? Also, if the clothes she wears are for comfort, why doesn't her brother or father wear similar clothes at home…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:49 AM

Double mastectomy works even better.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:58 AM

Any man can tell you what a tight T-shirt or sweater can reveal. If you think cleavage is necessary, think again. She didn't say that though. You equating showing your boobs with showing cleavage is showing your incompetence at what showing boobs mean. So what does "showing boobs" mean, according to you? For a woman with big or even average size breasts, there is no way to hide that to the point that it looks like a flat chest and you see literally zero curve. If a woman wears a normal, loose fi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:54 AM
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When did she ever have the chance to learn that sex is also enjoyable for her, too, and not just a duty she owes her husband? Again a straw man. Why wouldn't she learn that? Just because people save sex for marriage, it doesn't mean that they are not allowed to enjoy it within their marriage. Just like other people, people who save sex for marriage usually marry someone they love and trust, and not someone who forces them to have sex against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:59 PM
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So you don't want the problems in society to be solved? How is saying to a lot of men that their death would solve all the problems in society, not hateful? How is calling a war "good", because of a lot of men dying in it, not hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 10:46 PM
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Because being taller and stronger makes you fight better so its better for survival. That's debatable, because on the other hand, men being more equipped for physical fights also causes them (whether or not voluntarily) to be more often in physical fights (in which they might get seriously wounded or worse). So is that really a net positive for their own survival? Also, in modern society it's pretty easy to survive without being tall and physically strong. Most men and women do not really have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:51 PM
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Where was I being hateful? https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/19b1dq7/men_and_women_are_not_equal_and_will_never_be/kipgstd/?context=3 How is wishing for more men to die in a "good war" not hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 02:29 PM
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I'm not sure to which extent men are censored, because, to be fair there are also quite some disgusting comments from men. But yeah, there seems to be some double standard to some extend, I agree. I just meant that somehow (whether or not justified) such comments from men are considered more seriously than such comments from women. Just a question though, if women are below men (like OP said) or kind of children (like red pill teaches), would it be unjustified to take such comments of men less s…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:48 PM
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The privilege of not being taken seriously. :)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:23 PM
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but she isnt serious, she is just mad at me 😏 Yeah, but there are probably some men (although I suspect you are not one of them) who will feel hurt by such comments or who will become (more) bitter or angry because of it. Anyway, the comment deserves a lot of push back.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:19 PM
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Why would that make women superior to me? Why would being taller or stronger make one superior, but having bigger breast and a higher (healthy) fat percentage not? Do breasts have some advantage that i havent heard of? I don't know what you have already heard of. :) In case you haven't heard of it: a lot of mothers with babies use their breasts to feed their babies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:18 PM
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Yawn. Oh, you're one of these. Lazy personal attack. Ironic username. Why? Do you mean if one thinks for themselves, they necessarily must condone promiscuity? Or what do you mean otherwise? And regardless of our opinions on promiscuity, wishing for war because there are "too many" men, is disgusting, even if you just meant it as a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:07 PM
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No, it’s ok to give misogynistic men the same energy. They talk about taking away women’s rights and say we are inferior So they deserve to be ridiculed and shat on. Again, literally wishing people dead is not the same "energy" as wishing to take away some of their rights let alone ridiculing them. they will not change their mind just because women a re nice to them They will neither change their mind by women ridiculing men or even wishing men dead. Plus, what else should women do? The best way…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:53 PM
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You started it, you said men are superior to women. What are you talking about? I did not say that at all. It’s only fair to give back the same energy. It's not the same energy. Wishing people dead is not the same as considering them inferior. Besides, repaying evil for evil only makes the world worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 09:59 AM
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You dont want a man that is taller than you or stronger than you? You don't want a woman who has bigger breasts and a higher fat percentage than you? If yes, does that make those women superior to you? If no, are you (morbidly) obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:44 AM
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Men are disposable. All the problems in society now are because we haven't had a good war for a while and there's just too many men. What a disgusting comment! You are literally wishing a lot of men dead. (Crazy that you apparently have a husband. Hope you don't have a son.) War causes a lot more problems than that it solves, at least if you look at it from the perspective of someone who doesn't hate (half of) humanity. The real problems in society are not caused by there being "too many" men, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 08:30 AM
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Sure you're a fairy, you're not an animal. Why do you think that fairies, being the product of human fantasy, are more diverse and less of a monolith than the human minds who produced them? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 10:30 PM
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I didn’t say women manipulate their husbands You said "because the virgin they chose to marry regards sex as a prize to be doled out rarely for good behavior" How is using sex in such a way not manipulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 06:46 PM
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You know, not everyone goes to church or has been indoctrinated. Do you mean women who waited with sex until marriage and who don't go to church and who also are not indoctrinated, use sex as a means of exchange in their marriage to manipulate their husband (which would be quite an accusation)? Or what is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:29 PM
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Please address the actual points I made instead of avoiding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 03:09 PM
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Why not? First of all, that doesn't answer the question "Why..?". Secondly, if a man doesn't trust his wife that she hasn't cheated (and thus wouldn't need a paternity test), how would he be able to believe her that she was a virgin when she married him? How does it make sense to set some requirement, while at the same time you would not believe someone who meets the requirement and have no way to check it? Thirdly, demanding a paternity test from your wife if she is a chaste woman who saved her…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:48 PM
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Such a straw man. Seeing sex as something intimate that should be reserved for marriage and not something casual you do with everyone, doesn't mean that you treat it as a means of exchange like a prostitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:33 PM
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A lot of men here seem to want a paternity test anyway and even would want to make it mandatory for everyone. If they are going to demand a paternity test for each child anyway, why would it still make sense for them to want a virgin? They would probably not even believe a woman who said she is still a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 02:25 PM
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The current fertility rate in the USA and most other western countries is well below 2, and the majority of children in the USA are still born to parents who are married to each other. Your picture is by no means a fair representation of the average american or western woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/24 04:21 PM
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how is an average guy supposed to actually play the dating game considering he will never be "truly" loved. All suggestions here seem to point out that in some shape or form, men have to pay women somehow, be it with commitment, provision, status, etc. Your claim doesn't make sense at all. It is similar to a woman complaining that she cannot find a man who "loves" her by paying her bills, because all the men who would like to have a relationship with her and would be willing to pay or do somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 12:04 PM
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It's not exactly that i struggle to find commitment, it's that commitment finds me way too much, all my hookups want to lock me down and i don't want, i just want to have fun, provide my fun, hand have that friendly dance. But yeah, this is somehow a sin for the average joe. Yeah, that's indeed a sin, not just for the "average joe", but for everyone. Sex is not meant to be dealt with in such a degenerate way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 11:58 AM
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The fact that someone didn't fall in "love" with the person they cheated, does by no means show they love their spouse. They just love themselves and their stupid lust, not their spouse.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:23 PM
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A woman cheating means she inherently doesn’t love and respect you A man cheating also means he inherently doesn't love and respect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:13 PM
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Yeah, he downright admitted that he turns women into sluts. He must be either a troll or a severe narcissist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 01:00 AM
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He doesn't shame "chads", because he is one himself. He said in a comment somewhere below this post that he has a "body count" of about hundred.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:48 AM
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For most people that would indeed not be unreasonable. However, OP admitted that he has a body count of hundred himself, so in his case, it would be quite hypocritical.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:41 AM
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Deliberately turning others into people you consider bad for society, is treating them like trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:35 AM
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You claim in you post slutshaming women is good because if women are not sluts, it is good for society and children. Then why are you yourself turning women into sluts? Why haven't you committed to one of all the plenty of women you have been with who were not sluts (yet)? Why haven't you started a family with one of them, in order to contribute to the birth rate, that you seem to worry about? You want people to positively contribute to society, while at the same time you yourself are someone wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:32 AM
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Yup You see your disgusting hypocrisy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:19 AM
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p.s. youre polyamorous, we dont even live in the same world as one another Says the one with a body count of hundred. The only difference in your worlds is that at least he might have some level of love for the women he has sex with, and doesn't consider and treat them like trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:18 AM
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I dont date sluts though Well, that's even worse. In that case you made them sluts with a body count that high as yours. To be more clear, my definition of slutshaming is if you find out the girl has slept around, you walk away. Again, that's not the same as slutshaming. Not wanting a girlfriend who has slept around is socially accepted if you actually hold yourself to the same standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:07 AM
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Again, what do you actually mean with "slutshaming"? In any behavior, past indicates the future. If you had less impuls control and more desire in the past, youre more likely to be in the future. Its not 100%, but an indicator Sure, but friendly encouraging them on the right path is going to be much more effective and helpful for them, than forever treating them like shit. Treating them like shit forever, even if they try to improve, will only be counterproductive. I dont date men, you slutshame…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:54 PM
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I do agree with you that promiscuity is bad. That said, what do you exactly mean with "slutshaming" in practice? You said: Non slutshaming: if we encourage women to sleep around. However, the absence of encouraging women to sleep around is not the same as actively slutshaming, If by "slutshaming" you mean stating that promiscuity is bad and giving reasonable arguments for that, that's fine. But if you mean scolding at promiscuous women and treating them like trash, forgetting about their humanit…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:33 PM
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People just shouldn't have sex before they have build enough trust together.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 11:04 PM
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So sex is just some loveless, emotionless, physical pleasure for men, according to you? Why should women (regardless of how long they wait) want sex with such an empty creature who doesn't associate sex with love, but only with some animalistic pleasure? If women experience emotional intimacy through sex, but men don't, why should women even want sex with a man? After all, the intimacy between them doesn't really exist, it's just some stupid emotion in their female head, apparently. It would be …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 01:48 AM
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Random sex for a woman is not "natural and healthy". And neither for men. Why are you ignoring that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 12:30 AM

Children cost more than child support so I dont see how anyone is out there using the money for fun. If the mother wanted the child, she has those costs anyway. Making the father pay for the child for a significant part, while she has much more influence on her child's life than the child's father, would be very convenient for a narcissistic mother and she even could play the victim by presenting herself as a single mother. Not saying all or most women would do so, but some certainly do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:20 PM

I have understanding for your point of view. Just some questions with regards to the fairness and possible practical issues: a Women can basically run a trap play if she just feels like it, like it is absolute madness Obviously, it's absolutely wrong if a woman does that. Just asking, what do you think of cases in which it happens the other way around, namely when a man during sex removes the condom without knowledge and consent of the woman and she ends up pregnant and she doesn't have access t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 01:42 PM

It is wrong for a woman to trap a man with a baby for money, but the law is trying to protect the child that will need money to be raised. Just wondering, is the law really protecting the child if it allows the child to grow up with an irresponsible or narcistic mother who only uses the child's father to gain money, while she doesn't care about, or even doesn't want, him to having the fatherly role in her child's life (which is much more than just providing money)? Could it be that the governmen…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 12:27 PM
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Not just that, a car crash is often an accident. Even the best driver could make a mistake, however cheating is not an accident, it's an evil act that someone does deliberately. Not being sure that someone didn't make an accidential mistake is completely different from not being sure that someone didn't do a heinous act.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:46 PM
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They still desire intimate companionship. Trust is an essential part of an intimate companionship. By refusing to build trust over time and by forever wanting to continue checking the other, they unfortunately ruin their own (possibility of) an intimate companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:25 PM
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Trust needs to be proven over time not because of the whirlwind emotions of love telling you "she's the one!" Sure, so then why have a child before you have build that trust together and only have a whirlwind of emotions yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:17 PM
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Trust -- but verify. Well, then by definition it's no trust, only verifying. Why is that so difficult for you guys to admit? Don't pretend to trust someone if you don't actually trust them, just admit that you don't trust them and apparently don't consider that important in your relationship, and find someone with similar values.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:13 PM
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And through the database of children with unregistered fathers. In case there is a match in one of those databases, his partner will be informed. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:01 PM
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Plus, what is never talked about here, are the advantages of motherhood over fatherhood. There's a deeper connection, especially when young. Sometimes more pain and more gain. What are those advantages then? Personally, I have had a better connection to my father than to my mother as long as I can remember, despite the fact that as a child I spent more time at home with my mother than with my father. So I find it hard to see why a mother-child bond by default would be so much more special or bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 11:07 AM
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Also a bit of a personal questions for you: How can you be a Christian and a (kind of) redpill? What does red pill mean to you? Are there any prominent/publicly known red pill men who you would consider a great role model for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 11:06 AM
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Just because male promiscuity requires more skills and good looks than female promiscuity, it doesn't make it any less immoral. It is possible to use your skills in a bad, immoral way. While your skills may be admirable, what you do with them can be reprehensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:14 PM
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If men are the logical leaders maybe they should set an example. It's not rare among men to want a girlfriend/wife with a low body count, and not to with a high body count. You can just follow that example by wanting a boyfriend/husband with a low body and not a high body count. Also, leaders cannot exist without followers. Just because you want to be a follower and not a leader, you are still responsible for which leader you choose. There is zero excuse to choose immoral, promiscuous men as you…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 10:00 PM
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The solution for women is not to sleep around and become just as promiscuous as they think men are. The solution is to have higher standards in this regard as a woman and to value male virginity (of men who have the will and discipline to wait) and to reject promiscuous men with high body counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 12:53 PM

The vast majority of men isn't virgin anymore by the time they are in their late 20s. There are plenty of men who are not "incredibly charismatic and good looking" and yet have a girlfriend/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:41 AM

"Safe" sex doesn't give a 0% chance on pregnancy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 09:33 AM
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