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Pretty much this. Who the fuck actually uses Twitter?
/r/MGTOW231/07/19 07:39 AM
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Here's my take on it, but first my resume. I started gaming on an original handheld Donkey Kong. No wait, prior to electronic ones, you got those water squirt ones with the Dolphin and the hoops. I swiftly upgraded to Atari when that came out, then vic 20, and then a ZX Spectrum and a C64. Around this time arcade games. Arcade gaming was an art form. You had a limited amount of coins and you tried to make each one last. You would often just watch other guys play, sometimes for hours. Spending an…
/r/MGTOW230/07/19 10:29 PM
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There's MGTOW 1 or /r/MGTOW and that's a movement. That's basically meninism. If you want to call the antithesis of a movement by definition a movement, I'm ok with that too.
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 10:12 PM
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is there room in the MGTOW community for allies MGTOW isn't a movement. If you understood anything about MGTOW you wouldn't be asking that question. In short. The true MGTOW doesn't have a thing against gay people. You will not see an MGTOW beating up gays or throwing them off roofs. Hell, you might even make a friend even a true MGTOW friend. But make no mistake, a true MGTOW by definition has "Gone his own way". This means a departure from the world and its problems. There's no movement, there…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 09:39 PM
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Claiming all people who have families suffer is kind of misleading considering the context of OPs post, and while I respect the right for every man to do what he wants, I'll also respect my own right to contribute and add some balance to this. Life contains suffering no matter what path you choose is more realistic and factual than "If you have kids and a family you'll suffer". Guess what? If you don't have kids and a family you'll suffer too. Drawing a universal conclusion on this would be like…
/r/MGTOW229/07/19 09:28 PM
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Try and make 1 or 2 good friends and see them from time to time. Let me just remind you that the social scene isn't exactly bliss. For the most part, more people in your life = more drama. As an adult, it's kind of hard. Maybe consider dating someone who isn't a total cunt.
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 07:23 PM
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The internet is littered with fallout from "green carding". There's most likely going to be some success if you're extremely rich, and I mean EXTREMELY and intelligent enough to know the score. But if you're so rich, you surely don't need to be green carding such desperate women.
/r/MGTOW228/07/19 11:46 AM
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They are like crabs in a bucket Here's what I've noticed. A small percentage of guys I work with are genuine "bitches". A lot of stuff kicks off because women poison guys to other guys and the almost involuntary white knight knee jerk reactions. Let me give an actual example. Meet M, she's a woman I work with. M might seem nice, but under the hood she's actually an incredibly proud individual. She's also not incredibly experienced. Very important that I do not consider M to be a super-bitch. Act…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 09:05 PM
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Where I work right now. Country manager - A woman. HR - Yes as expected entirely managed and run by women. Auxillary positions - Marketing, Finance and I shit you not "Morale" all entirely dominated by women. Leaving only development - Yes the actual work or core of what we're supposed to be doing in the domain of men. However, there are women who also code. It's really no secret I'm not a massive fan of the women in IT, but I'm also not going to say they're the source of all bitchyness etc. The…
/r/MGTOW226/07/19 08:48 PM
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You don't matter. Always remember the golden rule, "trust not what they say but what they do". And it's not you. Do you think I matter to any of these female friends I have? Or "friends" in general? I know it fucking hurts. I set out with good intentions but I have become wary and jaded about the whole thing. In the end I see them as slightly emotionally retarded and a bit lost, incapable of fathoming how to form and develop long term relationships. They're extremely short-sighted always asking …
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 09:55 PM
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I'm 42 now, I wouldn't say my desire decreased, but my desire for lackluster experiences decreased. I'm sure you will agree. For example, if the girl of your dreams with a firm ass, unblemished skin found herself with you on a desert island, I very much doubt you or I would be like "Yeah that's ok, no desire over here". It's just that at our age we've had enough experience to know that good sexual experiences are rare, and bad ones are worse than nothing. I can apply this to 3 scenarios : The fi…
/r/MGTOW225/07/19 09:48 PM
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I agree with everything you said, unfortunately, there's no fixing it. And it doesn't stop there. There's a mod on /r/infidelity that bans post just at the sheer mention of pronouns she deems unfit. Eg: Female. Until that sub I had no idea that some people consider the word female an insult. I just use it as a synonym for women. Same like I call women, birds, chicks, chicas, for the last few decades no one ever took offense. Problem is 1 foul moron, who's actually in charge of a pretty serious s…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:43 PM
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Pretty much, but this sub I've found too has some limitations. On the one hand, I get it, MGTOW 1 is a cesspit, focusing their entire energy on the hatred of women. Well yes and no. The sub's primary goal is rather the formation of meninism, a social justice movement which directly opposes feminism. All of this under the guise of MGTOW. Unfortunately, this sub as a preventative measure prevents by means of removing posts the discussion of things primarily relating to women or those at least of a…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 07:14 PM
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Hope you weren't thinking I was as jaded as a 35yo divorced man lmao That's what I was thinking :) I absolutely loved high school and enjoyed it much more than university Best friendships I ever had, the actual school part of it, I disliked immensely. Relationships are the one thing where you can do everything right and have it work strongly against you You're not wrong, what I've found is it gets less random with time. That's not to say I've observed universal linear improvements. Obviously, th…
/r/MGTOW222/07/19 05:22 PM
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I have a few questions for you? Do you realize this isn't /r/theredpill What kind of porn do you watch? I assume it's lesbian?
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:54 PM
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Worth a mention here to a mechanic I've seen with my own mother, and I attribute to girls playing with dolls. You see a doll isn't merely a toy, it's an emulation of a baby, however, it's also a possession. Ever notice how plenty of women tend to put their emphasis on the baby phase? This explains it. Having children because you want a baby and what follows is an afterthought, is far too common. At least that's how I perceived my own mother's intentions. She considered us more like her possessio…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:51 PM
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But is it a genuinely fair extrapolation to make? This depends on who you ask. I would argue an intelligent person wouldn't extrapolate the above. My reasoning is as follows. While it's good to learn from the mistakes of others, we should classify the subject matter. In this context are relationships objective or subjective? By context I mean, the decision to engage in relationships or not. I'm not talking about details of the relationship such as "Should you buy her flowers once a month". In th…
/r/MGTOW221/07/19 09:49 AM
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Sorry to say but your post smells of defeat. By the time I had graduated high school I was jaded No offense but you can't possibly be serious? Jaded after high school, you haven't really even began to live yet. To put things in perspective, if my whole life was a book consisting so far of 1000 pages, and at 40 years old. Then up until high school would be something like 10 pages of that book. Make no mistake these years are highly memorable and intense, it's just that there's still sega after se…
/r/MGTOW220/07/19 09:13 PM
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I would say you're spot on with your analysis. And this is why old school relationships worked. The man was a source of strength and the true leader. He had dominion over his home and property and family. Even his children attending educational institutions required his consent (I'm mentioning this as an example of true dominion). But the man's role has been cheapened to "husband" light edition (or joke edition). Not only do men have on the whole less power in their relationships. It's very seld…
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 08:56 PM
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Why would you read this book?
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 08:45 PM
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Totally sure. And I'm confident I'm not wrong either. Heh, what can I say if someone is that fucking stupid that he reads the whole post and the only thing that comes to his mind is to try and troll me, then this post isn't for him. Just like it's not for you either. who's worried about conquering territory? go your own way. Where exactly do you think you're going genius? Perhaps into new unexplored territory! Mind = blown? Oh wow, oh wow, I didn't think about that.... Wait a minute... Oh that's…
/r/MGTOW216/07/19 04:20 AM
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This post is for people more intelligent than you. I don't mean to be harsh, but if that's all you took from this post sorry but it's true.
/r/MGTOW215/07/19 09:23 PM
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Classical guitaring. Do it properly, get a teacher and learn music theory too.
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:17 AM
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Took me too long to realize this but you can get into these unhealthy dynamics where your "friend" thinks they're better than you. They'll shoot down your ideas, focus on the wrong things, ultimately they can easily betray you because it all boils down to respect. If you find yourself in this position then you need to take your power back. There are a few ways to do this. The best way is to stop going along with everything they say. Put up some resistance, even if it's forced. So if you enjoy ea…
/r/MGTOW214/07/19 09:16 AM
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Can you even read? At your age you should be able to!
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 06:33 PM
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I agree with all the health benefits, but their claim on sheer virility makes no sense either. If you're really spending hours a day masturbating then, by all means, take a frigging break. However occasional masturbation, yes even once or twice a day will not make you any less horny.
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 12:04 PM
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Not saying that you're mentally challenged or anything but most people would have just nodded and agreed. In the context of the discussion which is sex and if you have some understanding then of a tier system based on enjoyment, then yes right at the top of that pyramid (or holy grail) is sex in the wild with an attractive woman. That's neither really funny or anything surprising, or what am I missing?
/r/MGTOW213/07/19 05:35 AM
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What the fuck is this?
/r/MGTOW212/07/19 08:20 PM
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I realized shit hit a whole new level when in /r/infidelity my posts constantly started getting removed due to "woman bashing". Now what might you ask is considered "woman bashing" by the one and only insufferable mod on that sub? Calling a female a female - Yup just use the word female and you get banned. Never really understood it because I use female and women as interchangeable synonyms. Anyways, only subs I still am even slightly active on are this sub and public freakout, but it's audience…
/r/MGTOW212/07/19 08:16 PM
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Jerking off is like a last resort for me. It's a fallback mechanism, obviously better than nothing. The holy grail is natural sex in the wild with a horny and sexy woman, but since I'm in a relationship and at my age, I'm not into coming off as "that creep" so I just don't go there. It's unrealistic. For top up sex, I fuck hookers here and there, not very often, but when I do they're model hot and I have exceptionally high standards. More or less just a reminder what it's like to fuck a tight yo…
/r/MGTOW212/07/19 04:41 PM
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One thing that helps immensely is just getting in with a good solid group and go out a lot. Listen you need to start somewhere and the sooner you get it over with the better. Self-confidence is a term I really despise. When you don't have it, and people keep telling you to act more confident, or that you're lacking confidence it only makes things worse. Also how the fuck do you even act more confident? So here's the thing with socializing or being able to talk to strangers or pick up chicks or b…
/r/MGTOW212/07/19 04:36 PM
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I have 2 chick friends, and they don't expect me to pay for anything ever. In fact, they would most likely think it's weird. Now on the other hand (and in the past) I've been trying to bang a chick, but at that stage since I wasn't getting any, and since I was trying to get her interest, we were technically speaking "Just friends". But there's a huge difference. Something building up to a relationship - aka a date, fine I'll pay, at least if I don't feel like I'm being scammed (and yeah that hap…
/r/MGTOW212/07/19 04:26 PM
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The problem isn't you, it's only your inability to read between the lines. I have a golden rule, always try to understand her motivation (aka her agenda). Women always have an agenda. Maybe you're a convenient crutch or someone to talk to because at that point in time she literally doesn't have anyone else. Or maybe you've been singled out as a beta backup plan. Maybe she kind of likes you and wants to have sex with you. Maybe she sees you as her long term plan. Not all agendas are sinister. Nev…
/r/MGTOW212/07/19 04:22 PM
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I've contracted to, but if I understand the OP, his question is how to totally escape that WHOLE box. Your response suggests ways to improve life within a corporate, but not completely escape it.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:46 AM
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Don't listen to any dogma. Let me tell you there isn't anything inherently bad with commitment. Commitment to the wrong person is obviously bad. I really don't get the mentality of dogmatically and blatantly just ruling out any possibility of an actually decent relationship. However, having said that. Absolutely nothing is forcing you to tie any knots with certain haste. It's one aspect I've seen with some of my friends. They really extended the dating period and didn't get married for years. I'…
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 06:41 AM
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I think we understand it in almost exactly the same way. A few additional thoughts. There's a premise that without MGTOW these men would be lost or that they need MGTOW to guide them. The reality is out there in the wild there are REAL MGTOW who have no idea what MGTOW is. I've personally seen this. Guys who are straight-up living MGTOW but just came to those conclusions on their own. We shouldn't assume these men are dumb or incapable of coming to the same conclusions we did without a manual or…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 09:43 PM
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I don't, and there's been a great deal of NoFap debunk. The premise of NoFap is that by not masturbating your testosterone levels rise and in addition you put yourself out there more because of a stronger desire for sex. After 3-4 days however your testosterone levels return to normal, invalidating any claims of long term build-up. There are also counter studies that claim the less sex you have the less sexual desire you eventually have. On the contrary to masturbation being harmful, which to da…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 07:07 PM
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He's battled constantly This fight he can not win Find another game or play by different rules. Learn to adapt and survival of the fittest.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 06:57 PM
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An extremely good post, couldn't agree more with everything written. It's one thing I strongly dislike about TRP philosophy in general. PUA tactics, confidence and frame might get you laid, but it also will get you involved with exactly the wrong type of female. All of this is fine if you had unlimited time and were only interested in sex. Since your best years are finite and the ultimate goal is to be in a relationship, you're far better off not applying manipulation tactics and totally avoidin…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 06:55 PM
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Treating MGTOW as some form of underground esoteric movement is a disservice to mankind Firstly don't shoot the messenger. Secondly, it's not that MGTOW is treated as some form of underground esoteric movement, it is that MGTOW is (so far) esoteric. By this, I'm not truly surprised. If it wasn't there wouldn't be any need for MGTOW. I attribute this hostility and misunderstanding of MGTOW to 3 things. At least on Reddit, the hostile takeover of MGTOW 1, infiltrated by SJW's masquerading as MGTOW…
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 03:24 AM
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This can be explained. Firstly thank you for a well thought out response. Let's just clear up a few things first, and to ensure this doesn't come across as women bashing, I need to talk in terms of demographics rather than sexes. It seems the way things are right now, the general quantifiable consensus is that women (as a demographic) currently, have some upper hand over males (as a demographic). Why this is will require an entire book, but trust me we could go there, only I assume you're intell…
/r/MGTOW208/07/19 09:38 PM
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The problem is this all resides outside of our control. What you say is really sensible and I'm in agreement, I would be more in agreement if those who disagreed with us, or didn't share our viewpoints too were sensible. However, what I see more these days is a society unconcerned with facts. Unashamed at ignorance. A certain blatant disregard for the rules as long as they win the argument. Essentially you cannot win. Neither should you really care, you have 1 lifetime and that's it. This isn't …
/r/MGTOW208/07/19 03:35 PM
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Let's also clear one thing up. 80-100 doesn't mean the person resembles a walking retard or zombie. I would also argue that the vast amount of damage is caused around the 100 mark, or let's say from 90-110. The reason I say this is because these people are just smart enough to get into fields that require higher education but they're just brain dead enough not to actually contribute. They're also not typically smart enough to be that self-aware, and so they come with a certain amount of arroganc…
/r/MGTOW206/07/19 07:41 PM
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Most NPC's don't get it. Not only do they not get it, but they'll also band together and make you out to be the enemy or the bad one. Hence GYOW.
/r/MGTOW206/07/19 05:15 PM
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It's not just that. Let's say you're feeling really horny. If you're anything under an 8, well good luck getting a one night stand. Come on let's break it down. Let's say you just want sex and spur of the moment. Step 1 : Find a place you can meet women. Tinder? Yeah you and me both know that's a joke and any online dating. So that means your best bet of not being considered a total creep would be a bar or night club. Step 2: Actually go to a bar or night club. In my case I don't even drink alco…
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 09:21 PM
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Show me a NAWALT and I'll show you the AWALT. Only realistic loophole I can think of and from personal experience is if a woman is in a long term relationship and the relationship is after some kind of JCurve and on the other side. Factoring in also as she ages if her desire for sex has dropped and her looks subsided a bit as to not get too much attention from strays. In the event that she totally believes she can't do any better than her current guy and genuinely is scared to loose him, now in …
/r/MGTOW203/07/19 09:11 PM
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To play devils advocate though. There's another mechanism which skews those statistics. While women are typically ultimately the ones who finally end the relationship or action the divorce. Many times it's the man who also wasn't up for the relationship. Now I'm not saying it nullifies those stats, absolutely not. By far and wide it's usually the wife who initiates it. The same thing like in general relationships, by far and wide more women break up with men. But just factor this in too to those…
/r/MGTOW203/07/19 09:04 PM
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I've seen it before. Seemingly blissfully happy people, even eccentric to the point where you might be fooled into thinking they're soul mates. Then you hear about their divorce, and hear the details of what was actually going on. Regarding dominance though, I can't make a judgment call either way. If you're talking about the true top dogs on the very top, then yes I agree with you. For everyone else, it's a mixed bag. I've seen guys who are dominant with their women and they still end up gettin…
/r/MGTOW203/07/19 08:57 PM
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What you see in public only tells 1/2 the story. Simply put most people aren't airing their dirty laundry out on the streets. So at a raw base level, most people simply don't fight in public. But now add a bit of intelligence into the mix, and smart people realize a strong relationship is a symbol of power and respect. Take a politicians wife, for example, she seems to worship her husband. Backs him up, laughs at his jokes, tells everyone how great he is. And you will find the same thing in your…
/r/MGTOW203/07/19 08:49 PM
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Welcome to the club. My CV doesn't read much better. What I've never really had is a logical and normal experience with a woman. What I mean is "Heh I like you, let's make this work". It's always felt like I've had to try very hard to secure her, then harder to hold onto her like she's doing me some kind of favor. What I didn't realize before is there's another side to this coin, and sorry to say but women love to be manipulated. I'll use case study 1 based on a 27-year-old woman I know and curr…
/r/MGTOW230/06/19 09:42 PM
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Few things have happened, but 3 mechanisms come to mind when reading this post. The value of sex has seriously decreased. In former times sex actually had some intrinsic value. People typically didn't have 10 or 100 sexual partners. Just 2-3 generations ago it wasn't that uncommon for someone to have 1 perhaps 2 or 3 sexual partners over a lifetime. Sex typically came as a package deal with marriage. All of this happened much earlier too. In Victorian times people were getting married and having…
/r/MGTOW230/06/19 08:08 PM
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You're 100% correct. It can never work as long as the participants are human. Socialism works in nature, and only in certain species that are truly unified and almost work as one organism. In humans, such cooperation will only ever remain a fantasy.
/r/MGTOW229/06/19 07:24 AM
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It's not a coincidence, it's subjective morality. Morality has always been subjective. Consider such a thing as eating meat. At some point in time and place, it was considered highly moral. It was a blessing from God and thus even immoral not to eat meat, this would be considered ungrateful or perverse. Compare that to these days, where vegans consider it highly immoral. Back in the days, vegas would be so few and far between it would be regarded as some kind of obscure nonsense. Welcome to the …
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 08:29 PM
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It's already happening in the middle east.
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 02:06 PM
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There's no escaping this. It's coming to every country everywhere. The only question is when. Don't take any comfort that this hasn't hit your country yet. It's not one of those forces that slowly invade or give you a warning. You'll see a change in your country from low influence to shit is kicking off now in 5 years. What might not be so obvious to MGTOWs without kids is they also added this stuff to school curriculum over a decade ago. So this means that for example in the UK, you have people…
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 12:38 AM
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It's PC content. That's the thing. It might not be what he personally believes but when it comes to Youtube, PC is the way to go and keep staying monetized. This is why you should keep an eye out for anything on Youtube. The unsanitized stuff isn't likely going to show up on your Youtube feed.
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 12:04 PM
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Well, there's another side to this too. One that's a bit of a trip but also worth a mention. Once in a relationship for a while, the dynamics change. I'll use two examples starting with my mother. Over time she started to despise her current partner and totally loathed the guy. This NEVER improved. Once this loathing set it, it was pretty much "poor me married to this guy" and victim mode. Then there's my own relationship. Right from the start, it was like she was doing me some favor or somethin…
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 07:57 AM
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This is great analysis, thank you for your input. Another thing I would like to mention is women are flakey as hell. Often petty with their reasons for not liking a guy. Most "average" men have much more realistic selection criteria because we know that we cannot afford to be too picky. In fact, it can get ridiculous where any woman who shows interest who has a pulse and is reasonably attractive will do. It then seems ridiculous to hear some of the reasons offered by women who reject otherwise g…
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 06:01 AM
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I'm going to say for the most part no, not in the sense that men understand it. What I have seen is women picking mates based on a much more localized decision. For example at school a guy whose popularity is inflated might seem super attractive to these young girls, years later he's a sidelined loser. Or at work, I've seen guys snatch up attractive mates because it seems the woman's sphere of influence and concern is so limited she's basing her acceptance criteria only on who she's directly int…
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 05:01 AM
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I really like this write-up, and it's really right at the core of MGTOW philosophy. This is the Disney dream. The problem is compounded, so we have to understand the individual layers. The first layer is that by default most people are selfish cunts. This has absolutely nothing to do with gender. People are self preservationists mostly concerned only with what directly affects them. So women inherit this layer mostly by default. In addition to women, these days get an additional layer. This is t…
/r/MGTOW225/06/19 05:51 PM
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I was raised under this Disney umbrella delusion, what I will say is a great deal of life and "purpose" is subjective, and mostly just boils down to how you feel. What I've realized is this. Most (virtually all) people on this planet don't give a shit about me. Including the ones, I interact with on a daily basis. In this regard, even if the TV is blasting, or you exchange pleasantries at work, you're really on your own. Some people set out to achieve fame/fortune/ or the exploitation of talent …
/r/MGTOW224/06/19 09:20 PM
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Because they're bad at lying and don't want the guilt. What I can tell you, no matter how cliche this sounds is very wary of what you're told, it's most likely not even close to the actual history, and it's not just about the raw number of sexual partners but the quality of those partners and the circumstances. Where at all possible, do your own independent research. If you can get access to her email account, then snoop, but only if she's the type who keeps all those old emails, you'll be amaze…
/r/MGTOW224/06/19 09:04 PM
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Doesn't exist where I live, unfortunately.
/r/MGTOW224/06/19 08:54 PM
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Ah, the whole rant and point are that maybe you don't go to hookers that often. But it's still nice to know that if you ever needed to at any point you can have sex with a 9/10 or 10/10 chick. With that option removed, it's kind of depressing.
/r/MGTOW224/06/19 08:06 PM
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So imagine going out to a place advertising 10 girls and at least 4 of them have good profiles. Only to get there and the girls they offer you are gypsies. Like what the actual fuck?
/r/MGTOW224/06/19 07:35 PM
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Isn't a Gypsy some kind of fortune teller? In fairy tales yes. In real life they look something like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97p-yaKmjZs
/r/MGTOW224/06/19 07:31 PM
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Exactly. Wouldn't want to fuck them. Totally disgusting to be honest.
/r/MGTOW224/06/19 01:45 PM
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Thank you for pointing this out. It's the only logical explanation. I didn't make the connection because most normal people aren't signing up to run to richer pastures here. Vast majority obviously stays right here. But for an unattached hooker, who would blame her? It seems to be a combination effect. Yes, I agree it seems a lot of the existing decent hookers left for greener pastures. Could also be new laws came in, or actually started getting enforced. Or it could be that those brothel owners…
/r/MGTOW223/06/19 10:03 PM
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The enabling aspect in all of this is that many people alive today are just living off the technological advancements of others. They do not have the intelligence to actively participate in this. They have no real social obligations either. They walk around with a very limited understanding of things because they're so arrogant they assume anything outside of their sphere applies through their projective nature. They also have far too much time on their hands and get deeply caught up in first wo…
/r/MGTOW223/06/19 04:53 PM
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Basically this. It's the same reason why outside of MGTOW as of today I've decided to stop participating in discussions even on Reddit. It's just too overrun with morons.
/r/MGTOW223/06/19 03:40 PM
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I believe you can get a fan cut version of Breaking Bad with Skyler completely removed.
/r/MGTOW222/06/19 06:54 AM
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And I bet many women love watching this From my experience, it's mostly teenage girls who watch this kind of crap. Most men don't find horror movies or thrillers legitimately scary. Perhaps interesting or quirky or a bit jumpy, but not scary at the core. Women, however, shit themselves at these things. It's a real adrenaline rush for them. Same thing like going on a rollercoaster. So it's no wonder why the ones who get the most "rush" or brain activity from these things comprise the majority of …
/r/MGTOW222/06/19 06:53 AM
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I remember watching this show waiting for something good to happen. It never does. It's one of those time sinks.
/r/MGTOW222/06/19 06:48 AM
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And now you're talking about the crux of the matter. If it was all about logic it would be easy right? Logically we would not get involved with these bad news bitches, regardless of how attractive they were. Totally different story when you're sitting there blue balled and get a glimpse of some young perky tits. One thing I highly suggest you do is invert the equation. Instead of starting women off with this good fuzzy feeling, or giving trust upfront and the benefit of the doubt and then the in…
/r/MGTOW221/06/19 07:49 PM
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Trust me I have no intention of moving to Hungary. Was just curious.
/r/MGTOW220/06/19 08:31 PM
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You ever heard that saying "The wheel turns"? Well, it really does. After around 35 or so I had this belief that life couldn't surprise me anymore. Well, it did! Before we get into that, let's talk a bit about the cheating. I've experienced this, and it threw me into a tailspin for about 2 years. We didn't break up over it, but very nearly did. For an enormous amount of time, I lost all trust in her. It made me even more skeptical of people in general. I devoted hours, days, months and years to …
/r/MGTOW220/06/19 08:29 PM
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I do suggest you check out other countries to move to, because this will never disappear. Thanks but I'm used to it already. Which country are you from?
/r/MGTOW220/06/19 08:16 PM
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I wouldn't totally write off the idea. I'm really not a fan of this "Write off all women forever". Frankly, I find this immature. It's the common stance in MGTOW 1. Life isn't black and white. It's not clear cut, and it's complicated. Let's talk about marriage as a failed institution. Credentials to talk? 14 years in, and still involved. Every marriage has issues. These days divorce is commonplace. A major contributor to divorce is that people don't stick with their problems and fix them. They a…
/r/MGTOW219/06/19 10:10 PM
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Find a friend with benefits for the trip. You might end up paying for most of the trip, but you'll have company and sex on tap to boot.
/r/MGTOW219/06/19 07:45 PM
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I absolutely don't feel empty, neither did I consciously swallow any pill. I'll tell you what I know. I know I don't have all the answers and cannot answer questions like "What is my life's greater purpose?". I know that I'm stuck here not entirely living this reality because I think it's fucking amazing or wanted it. But given the fact that I'm stuck here, and it's MY TIME. I am not going to let shit heads dictate to me how I can and should spend that time. Having said that to also be mature ab…
/r/MGTOW218/06/19 09:30 PM
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Macro vs Micro. Start focusing only on what concerns you directly.
/r/MGTOW218/06/19 09:22 PM
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I don't really want to turn this into a red pill thing, but since you asked Joey represents safety and lightheartedness. Women like this, up to a point. You shouldn't try to emulate Joey if this isn't your personality type, neither should you envy this particular type. It's far better just to be yourself. But at the same time, be sure you are being true to yourself and work with what you have.
/r/MGTOW218/06/19 09:21 PM
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I view most women this way. Here's an experiment. Try to have female friends where the quality of the friendship is on par with your guy friends. Suspend any sexual desires, and just try to have a friendship. It's when you start holding women accountable to the same standard as men. When your expectations of their behavior are the same as men, that's when you'll start seeing the core problems. Most of them are psychotic. Most can barely keep an actual conversation. Most cannot escape their natur…
/r/MGTOW218/06/19 09:07 PM
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Things have to change. I recall when this stuff was at its peak. When MGTOW wasn't a thing and women were truly in that goldie lox zone. That wasn't long ago. And for the most part, it's business as usual in this feminist society, but the cracks are present. What I predict will happen is either society will self correct completely, making gender distinction once again fashionable and even marketable. A push back mechanism against this gender neutrality. This could make this whole gender war just…
/r/MGTOW218/06/19 08:56 PM
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As someone who's regularly used hookers over the past 12 years, I can relate. On a few occasions, I've "crossed the line" with hookers. I have a few reasons why I would never consider actually ever getting involved seriously with one though. The first major reason is a hooker will have experienced sex with 100's if not 1000's of men. This means that unless you're some kind of sex bomb there will always be that problem that you're in comparison just average to her (if you're lucky). Based on poin…
/r/MGTOW217/06/19 02:42 PM
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This is true too. But those were classic wars. When was the last time any nation seriously threatened US freedom? Perhaps not in our life times.
/r/MGTOW217/06/19 06:39 AM
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It's not in defense of feminism, mostly these wars have financial agendas behind them. Be that to secure commodities or the sale of arms and ammunition. Someone is profiting. I would even argue that the last true war was WW2. Perhaps even Nam (But misguided). Everything since (yeah all the gulf wars) have been for profit.
/r/MGTOW217/06/19 06:38 AM
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Depends what type of violence we're talking about. I'm talking about the same type of violence as experienced by the OP. This is basically in the "drunken brawl" variety. And yes the UK is far more violent on average than other European countries in this regard.
/r/MGTOW217/06/19 04:29 AM
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40 now, haven't been in a fist fight since my 20's, and then only when drunk. Basically, there's no good reason to get into a fight unless you're fighting for your life or in self-defense or something.
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 08:17 PM
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Here's my theory on what happened. Firstly let's be clear, the UK is a violent place. People there start fights for no reason. I've noticed this as part of the binge drinking culture there. Fights break out just because people there go looking for fights. I think this girl was drunk. Most likely everyone involved (including yourself) had been drinking alcohol. You basically got attacked by a yob. A female yob, but still one of those cunts who are out there bored, angry and drunk. They're nasty a…
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 08:14 PM
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I would do 2 things. Advise the friend to contact HR immediately, and explain the story. Most likely the offender will get called in, given an official warning or fired right off the bat, depending on the severity. If the friend was not willing to do that I would go and see HR directly, point out the offender but leave the victim (friend) as anonymous. The way I see it is, if the HR is competent, the female here has all the power and control over this situation. They can invoke "god mode" by sim…
/r/MGTOW214/06/19 09:27 PM
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I guess it depends on the country, but in all the western countries where I've lived that shit just doesn't fly. This stereotypical 80's movie kind of sexual harassment. So I'm curious what country was this in?
/r/MGTOW214/06/19 09:21 PM
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Never had any luck with it. Matches, a few chats, but it's simply not worth the effort. Not one actual solid "Let's get together" Another thing is, if you work for a large company, then expect others you work with to see your profile. And expect to see profiles there of chicks you work with.
/r/MGTOW213/06/19 07:53 AM
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I wouldn't call it classic monkey branching, but let me paint the scene. Miss 6/10 goes out, ignores guys that might actually be good for her (That's you and me) and instead gets this glint in her eye for Chad. Chad is a solid 9/10, he's also drunk. Miss 6/10 spends the night with Chad. Chad wakes up without beer goggles and writes her off as "a quick fuck in desperate times". Chad goes out and fucks another woman that very night. This might seem like monkey branching. To continue, Miss 6/10 now…
/r/MGTOW213/06/19 07:51 AM
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There are 2 sides to every story. On the one hand, I respect and strive for fidelity. But then there's this case presented by the OP. It happens almost overnight, one day the woman you're with no longer seems that interested in sex. From this point, it just slowly gets worse. And that's all fine and well if you're 80. But at 40, I'm absolutely not ready to give up on sex OR the thrill of sex at all. The path she's chosen isn't something I signed up for. Then in addition, now without an active se…
/r/MGTOW212/06/19 09:11 PM
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Masturbation kills your sex drive and prevents you from taking the initiative to meet a real woman There's no evidence that supports this. Masturbation and having sex are not mutually exclusive. There are plenty of nofap debunks out there. If it works for you, great! However I wouldn't hold it as universally true. I also wouldn't ever advocate quitting masturbation as a way to improve your attraction for / to the opposite sex.
/r/MGTOW211/06/19 09:41 PM
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I agree with what the others have said. Especially how /u/RealBiggly articulated it. The theology is just plain speculative (at best). My decision to leave though came over time. I initially was forced into it. As a child forced to go to Sunday School, and forced to take on this religion like it was just as factual as learning about biology or maths. It wasn't just my parents either, bible studies were an official part of my primary school curriculum. And it wasn't "religious studies". This was …
/r/MGTOW210/06/19 04:19 PM
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but really hating myself for buying hookers or masturbating Really? Because I certainly don't. Here is an alternate take on hookers, and why I have no moral dilemma. Right at the very core, you were never asked to be born. All of us magically appeared here without consent. We had no choice either when we entered this body with certain biological needs. Hardwired desires for sex. Worth a mention here we had absolutely zero input into our makeup and our overall appearance. But even worth a mention…
/r/MGTOW208/06/19 08:49 PM
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We're the same age. I would say don't throw in the towel. It's obviously useful to have knowledge of red flags and how to identify and avoid problematic women, time wasters and gold diggers. On the other hand, if there's one thing about life it's that for every rule there's usually an exception. And so it is with dating, imagine going on 20 dates with 20 women, and each one being a cunt. 20 dates is more than most men will go on in a life time, so imagine hitting this and finding cunts back to b…
/r/MGTOW208/06/19 08:36 AM
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There's another aspect though. In the wild, I've NEVER in my life been able to attract anything higher than a 7. And that includes during my prime. Let me tell you that virtually always it was a lot of work and mostly a total waste of time trying to secure any action at all. Not to mention expensive. The vast majority of women out there are just time wasters. I'm no incel either but unless you're in the top 10% OR have considerable wealth and are able to flaunt it you're going to have difficulti…
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 11:05 PM
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From what you've described it's absolutely something I would go for. In a way, it's like having a girlfriend over for a movie. How many times have you been single and alone and thought "Man I wish I just had a girl here to chill with". Not even talking about sex now.
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 08:43 PM
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Sex != intimacy. I've had varied experiences with hookers over the years, but the golden rule is as you get older and wiser two things happen. The hookers stop being so naturally energetic You notice this more easily There is this hit / miss ratio with hookers. Some are incredible, and some are what I call Lemons. If you've ever had a lemon you'll know what I mean. If you're unsure what I mean I'll explain in the next comment. But the older you get the more the orgasm becomes less important than…
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 07:52 PM
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That's the problem I have with the lower end spectrum of hookers/call girls. Many of them don't seem to get it at all. Not every guy wants to whip out his dick, fuck and be done in 5 minutes, then pay and leave.
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 07:43 PM
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You're not wrong.
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 07:40 PM
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Are you naked or fully clothed? I guess cupping her breasts is out of the question too? Or are you permitted to feel her off a bit? However, the idea in principle sounds amazing. I would totally go for it. In many ways, it's a hell of a lot better than a non-GFE hooker. With this you get some "feeling" in it. It's the same reason erotic massages are so appealing. Sex is off the table, but you do get finished off, and for about an hour get touched and pampered. My only gripe is that the amount of…
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 07:38 PM
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Different approaches for different people. As for me I've seen no evidence at all that not fapping dramatically improves your life. On the contrary, I would recommend regular masturbation. Many health benefits to it. Porn, on the other hand, is another story. I can't think of a single negative effect from taking a break from it. Maybe the key would be to masturbate less, and totally ditch porn.
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 07:31 PM
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I would say it's more what they didn't teach me. They created a completely utterly volatile environment throughout my childhood. Both of them remarried 3 times. I got to stay with my mother and she decided it was a good idea to have another 2 kids with her 2nd husband. They put absolutely zero effort or energy into learning about life or any useful hobbies and interests. Nothing at all to develop these. The only reason I have a successful job and any interests and talent at all is from teaching …
/r/MGTOW206/06/19 09:55 PM
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Is the blue pill narcissistic? No. It's not an active choice. It's basically like Neo at the start of the first Matrix. Is the blue pill actually worse than MGTOW? By far and wide MOST (And I mean the vast majority) of blue pillers live a subpar life. Many suffer away internally and over time. In this day and age being depressed or sad is like the new poor. So they suck that shit up and appear happy. I've met countless who look like they're so deeply in love you would feel envious, but then you …
/r/MGTOW206/06/19 09:47 PM
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I wish it were like that but there's another force at play. The censorship comes from within the community, and that's the problem. Consider Reddit, let's use this site as an example. I've been using Reddit for roughly 9 years now. I am not so sure if the site has changed as much as me simply understanding the mechanics of the site. Reddit is basically one giant circlejerk. Even without active moderation those disagreeing with the collective get silenced or shamed. In many ways, I see Reddit as …
/r/MGTOW206/06/19 09:25 PM
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I would also say don't "perve" out chicks at work. Which is slang for gawking at them where I come from. No good can come from this, only that you sit there looking pathetic putting women on a pedestal and getting zero action in return. Let me tell you, there's no experience that I've had where gawking from a distance improved my chances with a woman. Especially if you're doing it on a daily basis in the office. Only 2 things happen : You boost her ego You create this "Out of my league" vibe. Bu…
/r/MGTOW205/06/19 10:02 PM
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I would say though that I agree mostly with that article. Unfortunately, MGTOW mainstream edition is nothing more than meninism.
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 09:38 PM
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I'll give a useful response to this. It's a concept I came across on my path of discovery. In life, there are 2 aspects. Macro and the Micro. The Macro is everything out there that doesn't directly affect you. The Micro is everything that does. If you want some peace and (possibly) happiness, you really want to stop being a slave to the Macro. Posts like this are a perfect example of the Macro. It is an admittance of being apart of something and provides comfort for failure. It is simply put not…
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 09:28 PM
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You might be more comfortable in the red pill sub.
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 08:58 PM
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I read that article, and she's not wrong. Here's the way I see it. You ever heard of Jeff Clark? He's that surfer who was out at Mavericks for 15 years ALONE before it became a thing. It was never called Mavericks. So it is with real MGTOW. We don't need a brand and we sure as hell don't need a movement. We don't need a t-shirt either. Mostly you won't find us at rallies or trying to push an agenda. We do not advertise MGTOW. I'll get to our relationship or take on women in a bit, but first it w…
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 08:54 PM
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I'm one of the few people who don't drink alcohol. And it's bliss.
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 08:20 PM
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No offense but you come across as a buffoon. I'm really amazed OP took the time to engage you. How exactly did you jump to political beliefs?
/r/MGTOW203/06/19 09:11 PM
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True MGTOW isn't a failed state, it's an escape from a failed state. Those walking around without purpose because "nothing really matters" are most likely just failures hiding under the umbrella of identity to validate their failure. From another angle, if you're going your own way, at least most people can agree that the focus becomes more on self. The elevation of self over that of the expectations of society. This means you need to be comfortable with yourself or know how to blot out the nois…
/r/MGTOW203/06/19 08:58 PM
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If you remove all the fuzz, a relationship should be very much like the one you had with your best friend in school. I mean this is the ideal case. Not sure about you, but my best friend and I would do god damn everything together. You didn't need an invite or long story to make time to meet. It was assumed. His home was like my 2nd home and vice verse. His family felt more like cousins. Most of the time you get along, virtually always up to something, or something to talk about...... But I'm su…
/r/MGTOW201/06/19 07:45 PM
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Yeah, and in addition, life is dynamic and people change. I've seen people who seemed besotted with each other earlier in life. The guy of the couple (who was/is a major asshole) was trying very hard to be one of those free creative spirits. His wife at the time bought into the whole lifestyle. But you know after kids, she started seeing through his "free spirit" charade. More like "Irresponsible loser". Needless to say she wasn't happy and left his ass. Oh yeah, the same guy tried to break up, …
/r/MGTOW201/06/19 07:35 PM
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Hollywood is so influential, movies are made to popularize war. In the '50s after a sci-fi was produced showing flying saucers, people started having "ufo" sightings looking like the crafts from Holllywood.
/r/MGTOW231/05/19 04:01 AM
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Here's the best way I can describe this. Forget about MGTOW for a minute and forget about AWALT, NAWALT and Unicorns. Instead go back to the Disney dream we've all been sold on, and continue to get sold on. I'm writing a book, so I'll just quote this : It literally all starts with Hollywood. I mean literally. From that very first Disney movie, our expectations change. Disney sells us on a dream that each one of us are princes who will secure the princess. That includes you and me. We dreamed alo…
/r/MGTOW230/05/19 08:49 PM
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Don't even get me started on the tall thing. But ok a very true, somewhat sad yet pathetic story for you. There's this chick my partner works with. She's tall. Before you start thinking tall and slim with long sexy legs. This isn't her. She's just overall big. In addition, she has a serious case of a butter face. She has no style and wears ill-fitting clothing. To top it off she also has this neurotic vibe about her. I present you with a 4 at best. She's what I would have called in my student da…
/r/MGTOW230/05/19 04:46 AM
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The first video about dating apps/sites is totally spot on. I'm so-called "above average" looking. I've also spent considerable time on dating sites. Hours and hours over a period of years (this is in the past). The energy/success ratio simply isn't worth it. For all those hours (what might be in the region of weeks) over about 8 years. I got laid about a handful of times. All except one were "low quality". The attractive one was nothing more than a CC rider, yes she looked good but absolutely n…
/r/MGTOW229/05/19 09:52 PM
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I am genuinely happy for those guys that achieve some level of success in relationships. However, my stance has dramatically changed over the last 20 years. 20 years ago I would have been "That guy". The world, however, has changed. The power balance of the sexes is dramatically disproportionate. What was perhaps (perhaps) a healthy synergy has now become a situation where guys should be lucky enough to get their turn on the CC or else wait around for any charity to get an ex CC rider to commit.…
/r/MGTOW228/05/19 02:31 PM
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I think you are a true MGTOW. Nicely said.
/r/MGTOW227/05/19 04:25 PM
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they would have found that the point of MGTOW is to fight back against a bad system I don't see MGTOW in this light. It's rather a silent removal of yourself from that system. Under a few assumptions. Assumption 1 is that the world has gone to shit and there's no point getting too caught up in the perpetual time-wasting drama of it all. Assumption 2 is that unless you feel like pulling an "Into the wild" one still has to continue actually living in society and interacting at some basic level. Ke…
/r/MGTOW227/05/19 03:57 PM
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Yup, it's extremely hit and miss. I've had some incredible times with some, but I would say you're statistically more likely to get what I call a "Lemon". I've actually had more overall quality sex in brothels than call girls from the internet. Another option is erotic massages which would be good because the girl actually puts in some personal touch, but ruined because you can't touch them back, or it's really limited.
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 08:49 PM
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I would say I agree. If we're talking about old school special with some actual build up and strong passion. But what I would add is I've had plenty of one night stands that were actually worse than a hooker. Besides all the talk, my experience is that sex with a woman improves over time. I've never once managed to get a (real) woman to orgasm first time. Even when trying and making a considerable effort. But on 2nd or 3rd time. There's like this "getting used to it" period. So I figured out why…
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 08:28 PM
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Yeah, so basically 35 euros is the cheap option. And it's worst case scenario experiences. Everything you hate about those bad hooker experiences such as "No touch breasts" etc. Or her during sex asking what kind of position you want. Really mechanical horrible sex. What you want is at least GFE.
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 08:19 PM
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Might be worthwhile catching a train. Not sure. But for example, check this www.roksa.pl and you'll know what I mean. Anyways. Don't believe the adverts on that site too much. But from experience, a combination of "show authentic photos" and spending more than 60 euros (or around 300 zloty) will usually get you a good overall experience. Absolutely at no point go for anything in the 150 price range, it's a terrible experience.
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 08:13 PM
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There's REAL MGTOW, then there's MENINISM which masquerades as MGTOW, and sadly this is the mainstream version of MGTOW. Joe public who has no idea of what MGTOW is, might for example head over to MGTOW sub to get an idea. What do you think his impression is going to be? Any objective person would only think "Ok so this is the male version of feminism". Some people who lurk longer might get the idea that the whole MGTOW movement exists only to try and counter-feminism. Only the two are not compa…
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 08:06 PM
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How far do you live from the Polish border? Maybe you could drive and get cheaper hookers?
/r/MGTOW226/05/19 07:56 PM
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Thanks, that's what MGTOW used to be, you know actual discussion not just posting memes about feminism.
/r/MGTOW26/05/19 07:52 PM
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The whole thing about Google is that it's extremely democratic, in the pure sense. It best represents the majority. And if there's one thing I've learned is that when it comes to relationships, relationship advises, points of views, blogs, the law regarding relationships, etc. Google results all seem to be slanted towards women. Google even seems to ignore what you really want sometimes. Go ahead and test it. Start searching for information about affairs and infidelity, and "wives". What you mig…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 07:33 PM
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What the actual fuck is she talking about? "Legal control over our own bodies". Can someone please explain this tripe?
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 07:25 PM
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She wanted to be a mother in the morning These are the absolute worst. Typically they've been riding the CC and can't nail down their Chad. A panic and frustration sets in. But this isn't after just fucking one or two guys. At least in the 10's. Could be anything from literally 10 to 100 guys, but realistically around 30. If you think that's a lot, well some of these women (aka most) are in the habit of fucking a new guy every weekend. So yeah they hit this point where they have this sudden real…
/r/MGTOW11/05/19 07:22 PM
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I had a look and no thanks. I'm not even sure if they're talking English in that sub. Having gone through the first 2 pages, I couldn't find one post that doesn't sound cultish. Nope, there's no way I'm getting involved in that community.
/r/MGTOW08/05/19 06:29 PM
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I used to think infidelity was a rare shady thing only 10% of creepy people got up to. LOL The reality is MOST people cheat. And every guy out there seems to think his girl is the exception. That someone he nailed it and found a Catholic nun. Only often these so-called "good girls" too have been riding the bicycle before getting married. Even if you marry a girl who isn't actively pursuing an affair. Well, you're still fucked because women get offers all the time, or guys pushing their luck, and…
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 11:28 AM
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This is another huge contributor to the decline in marriage as an institution. But this engine deserves a quiet explanation, or at least the way I see it because there are a few mechanisms at play. The first factor is simple logistics. Anyone dependent on someone else is going to have better behavior overall than an independent person. They will be more conservative in arguments. More cautious in not wanting to offend. More tactful on the whole, and generally try and provide some counter value. …
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 04:00 AM
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A great deal of this alpha male bullshit is about competition and impressing women, outside of natural leadership. Once you've gone your own way, or at the very least seen through this bullshit, then it also makes it hard to be around certain people, even guys (cucks and simps) who's behavior changes when they're around women. White Knighting also pisses me off. This irresistible built-in nature of simps and cucks to protect females. Even in the most arbitrary conversations with no hostile inten…
/r/MGTOW04/05/19 03:44 AM
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Mad at him single is the most common one. And it's incredible how sumps fall for this shit. Especially in the workplace. In former years, infidelity would be kept well under the rug. These days it's common. Disturbingly coworkers seem to support their cheating colleague. They'll join in the justification of "She's not happy". Without even meeting the spouse, they assume he must deserve it. Many simply turn a blind eye, even from time to time meeting the poor betrayed bastard and offering up zero…
/r/MGTOW03/05/19 07:49 PM
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