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Purge Week!Fridric_Magnus/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:13 PM
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Why are we supposed to care what his wife looks like?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/21 07:26 PM
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As a bisexual dude, it's been my experience that those "he's ugly but has a hot girlfriend and/or slays" guys always have physical features well above average, they're just not pretty boys. Also it's been my experience that women most readily downplay their partner's appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/21 05:48 PM
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The problem is that women overvalue themselves. I don't think that's necessarily it. A "low value" person isn't going to want a genuinely low value partner, even if they themselves are a total trainwreck, because such a person likely won't enhance their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/21 06:30 PM
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Yeah, since so many male anime/JRPG characters are on the effeminate side of things, men tend to generally not be well-suited to cosplaying them. The only convincing Inuyasha cosplayer I can remember was a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/21 03:44 AM
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Wow that tangent had nothing to do with anything I said. I said men know that a component of what makes them desirable to women is their ability to provision resources, as women generally want a man that earns more than them, and they know that not earning more than their partner is going to cause stress in their relationships by establishing them as a less desirable partner, hence the anxiety. You seem desperate to push this into some petty ego trip entirely on the part of men, rather than a pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 07:22 PM
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It's more like we know a component of our desirability is our ability to provision resources, and not bringing in the lion's share of them causes strain on relationships. But hey, that's an impressively unflattering interpretation you've cooked up, you really went the extra mile to put the blame entirely on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 05:55 PM
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Cool, thanks for indulging my curiosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:07 PM
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Oh sweet, a fellow geek. What's your game of choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 05:50 PM
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Pretty cute. Please tell her I said she's a good cow.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 06:35 AM
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I mean pen and paper RPGs that hinge heavily on imaginative experience. Dungeons and Dragons and the like.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 01:43 AM
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Counterpoint, many of the men here are deeply concerned with being wanted by their partners, sometimes to the point of shooting themselves in the foot with neuroticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:55 AM
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Yeah, people fantasize all the time. There's even an entire industry of games based around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/21 12:50 AM
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So, generally they use blanks for most shooting scenes, which have crimped tops (if you look closely in that top-down view of Agent Smith's Desert Eagle firing at Neo in the Matrix, you can see the crimping on the casings). However if a scene needs the rounds themselves to look authentic, they'll use dummy cartridges, which have the powder and primer removed but still have a bullet. My guess is there was a mixup with the dummy cartridges and someone is very fired.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:26 AM
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I'm too awesome to not share.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 05:17 AM
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Eh, close enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 02:18 AM
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That's kind of fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 02:14 AM
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I think I can find it plausible, though I'm choosing to suspend judgment until i know more. Dogs communicate among themselves, and animals are much more autonomous, adaptive and creative in their actions than we typically give them credit, so I don't think it's inconceivable that they could learn to communicate in other ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 02:11 AM
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I found it helped to cut out extras (e.g. I don't get large anything), and swap shit out over time as I had a pretty routine (if unhealthy as fuck) diet. To this day I'm often thinking about my diet and ways I can tweak it for improvement. Your objective should not be to become perfect all at once, but to incorporate liveable changes that can become part of your regular habits. Keep at it and you'll get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 02:05 AM
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Yeah, but I doubt she can bail hay even half as good. Plus you'd win that scrap for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 02:00 AM
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There's something wrong with your dog.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/21 01:58 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 06:26 AM
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Some people suggested insects as another source. I hope I die before that becomes mainstream. It's no worse than eating shrimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:47 AM
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One removes the heads, wings and legs. Which as far as I'm concerned basically makes them land-shrimp.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 04:44 AM
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No, that isn't what has to happen; we could farm considerably less awfully, but the meat industry would have to be scaled back and become more of a luxury. This is part of why I advocate adopting other sources of protein, using smaller animals that can be raised in a relatively humane fashion more efficiently, like rabbits, guinea pigs, grasshoppers, weaver ants, etc. We could also potentially supplement with krill fishing, but we'd have to be very careful about that to avoid collapsing ocean ec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/21 03:38 AM
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Men have a smaller pool that's still mostly full of garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 11:53 PM
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Frankly, I don't get it, since I know no woman would be happy with this either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 05:13 PM
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Rock on!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 08:14 PM
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I think incorporating a series of programs starting from elementary school and concluding in highschool meant to train people as a competent civilian militia (so fitness, martial arts, firearms training, basic tactics and strategy, as well as various forms of natural disaster relief) would be generally socially healthy, plus instill a greater sense of autonomy and dignity in everyone. Our society is tailored to drag people down and make them weak; this might help ameliorate that. I'd also want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 07:51 PM
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I really can't see why anybody is surprised men find this idea insulting. Men get told they're husband material as a consolation for not being hot; men get to see how countless married men wind up having to keep their balls in their wife's purse alongside his wallet; men also spend their lives seeing the kind of attention and effort women lavish on the fuckboys they pretend to hate. So do people just think men are stupid? Unless women collectively become 'not OK' with picking their husbands base…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:57 PM
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I feel the distinction is that the fuckboys receive more effort to impress from their partners, who generally would like it if they stuck around, whereas the marriageable men are just being taken as what she can get, where for men it's generally the opposite (men work to impress the women they'd like to marry, and take what they can get for women they just want to fuck). So men are stuck trying to impress women who begrudgingly accept them as a mealticket, which is a bad fucking deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/21 06:05 PM
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I would wager that the implication is that something should be done about this technology to prevent these hypothetical crimes that men might commit. I do not care about potential crimes, only actual ones, and I think policing people base on potential crime is a dangerous precedent in law enforcement. objectification Spurious Kantian bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/21 03:31 AM
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So lonely men should just live without any sexual outlet, because you think it might make them treat women worse on the grounds of that spurious Kantian bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 09:19 PM
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This isn't to say staying in this siutation isn't this choice I acknowledged that. The difference I'm explaining in our hypothetical changed people, one who was an asocial loser, the other with a history of promiscuity, is that the former is working to overcome something inflicted upon them, the other is working to overcome something they chose for themselves. This trivia still doesn't matter in the central point (find a partner who's cool with your past) but it does mean what the past of the hy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:43 AM
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Nobody chooses to be neuro-atypical, bullied, abused, etc. which are generally where social difficulties stem from, and trying to overcome something like trauma can be much like trying to pull yourself out of a bog by your own hair, to say nothing of trying to overcome a neurological disorder. This isn't to say that staying in this situation isn't their choice, but the initial circumstance likely isn't; the same of which cannot be said for having fucked around a lot in your past.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:32 AM
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They'd be correct, but that difference doesn't matter in the fact that it's in your interests to find a partner who's OK with your past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:41 PM
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I'm assuming they meant the classic "awkward, geeky and unsuccessful with women" that serves as the iconic origin story around these parts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:00 PM
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I remember once a user, as means of a gotcha, posted here something to the effect of "if the past matters, then surely women should consider your past as a loser too" and I just can't bring myself to disagree; I would, as a long-term partner, want only someone who could be comfortable with my past. I would think most women would likewise want only a partner who could be comfortable with their past.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 09:52 PM
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The answer I think is to stop moralizing about it. It's not a slight against universal justice that a nice, studious guy with good manners isn't getting women, and the fact some Chad gets women isn't proof of his moral superiority, nor are women in general picking their partners based on ethical consideration (they in fact have no special means of moral perception unique to them, and their selection is every bit as superficial as that of men).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 09:21 PM
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I'm not sure why this is controversial. People want what other people want. I'd imagine it applies to men too (in fact, I'd speculate that the MILF phenomenon may stem in part from it).
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/21 04:55 AM
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those who do like an assertive man want his assertiveness for the rest of the world, with her they want him to be gentle and kind. Here's the thing, where I will say that it could be said women are chosing for assholes: that's largely an unrealistic fantasy. It's roughly comparable to the men that want an insatiable freak in the sheets, but only for them. The kind of man who has built up an assertive, take-charge, challenge the whole world outlook is not going to drop that mindset just for you j…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 11:04 PM
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I don't disagree. I just think a lot of women place "is not an asshole" and "is not a misogynist" as lower priorities than they pretend, while selecting for traits that do correlate with being an asshole (often also misogyny as people tend to be multiple kinds of asshole at once) and thus find themselves with more assholes and misogynists than they otherwise would.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:49 PM
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I think the key is to remember that your actions are part of this process and to keep in mind that you've been making do with the illusion of free will just fine; from a personal standpoint, it changes very little except perhaps taking some unnecessary moral baggage off your failures (they are instead just that and nothing more). As for selfishness versus selfless, I have two thoughts on the matter. The first is that all these higher causes (God, humanity, nation, whatever) will all ultimately u…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 10:36 PM
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Nah. It's not that. While I am sure that I'd prefer to wait until after my education (I'm getting a late start after wasting my twenties), the bigger issue is that I come from a background of some fairly extensive trauma and I am not sure I wouldn't just wind up dragging the poor kid into the same cycle I came from, as my primary examples of parenting are both abusive and otherwise highly dysfunctional.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:39 PM
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A higher lifeform of pure drama if ever there was one.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:16 PM
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I generally just ignore her, since she's predictable, repetitive and utterly unbudging in her views; just another damaged radfem (a redundant statement if ever there was one). But I do really appreciate the butthurt she generates.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:15 PM
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Kids are cute, I just find them a little terrifying (everything you do, and even a lot of what you don't do can have a lasting impact on them; that's an overwhelming concept) and I doubt my life will ever be at a point where I'd consider myself qualified to raise them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:12 PM
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My guts lurch at the thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 08:04 PM
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Sounds in line with my own thoughts. I'd still say there's an illusory element to it, in that libertarian free will is false and thus our decisions aren't really our own (well, not entirely at least) but we ultimately must take responsibility for our own life (all actions therein) because we're the only one who can, but also because it's the only thing we can take responsibility for and exercise power over. In this regard the illusion is both preferable and wholly sufficient. The sticking point …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 01:02 AM
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Sorry, had a dumb moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:40 PM
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Mine or yours?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:31 PM
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Makes sense. Besides there's no room to have a ridiculous slapfight there.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:31 PM
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The main thing that makes me say they're the "least wrong" is that I would agree that looks are first and foremost, and that society at large really downplays it (more of a process of double-think really: we all accept it as normal that our stories should be about beautiful people finding other beautiful people, but simultaneously pretend it's because they're just so perfectly compatible). They take this premise to a bizarre, self-destructive extreme and refuse to actually utilize what gifts the…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:15 PM
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r-worded Clearly you mean 'right.' I kid, I just saw my chance. I'd day the black pill is the "least wrong" but that's about as far as I'd go.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:53 PM
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shitposting with an alt Low energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:50 PM
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I'm genuinely curious, how so?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:49 PM
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I've never understood where brigading was such an issue. It's a fucking public forum in a shared community; if you didn't want people to come from other parts of the site to take part in the fun, you'd either set it to private or start an offshoot site (a bunch of communities have used the publically available ruqqus code to do just that).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:48 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:28 PM
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Don't believe everything you hear on the internet (this applies to me too). And yes, of course other women may be different; I've gotten pretty lucky to find women enthusiastic about sex. I'm just saying, it's not universal.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:21 PM
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I mean no insult or jab here, but aren't you a virgin? How would you know? My past girlfriends were quite enthusiastic about cowgirl.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:58 PM
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They're pretty damn close to equal; it's not like modern rifles and pistols are particularly heavy; hell, a fit woman could probably manage LMG duty.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 09:56 PM
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No mistake, it's an enormous task and few really appreciate just what a massive undertaking it is to build a system without God to fall back on (Nietzsche, Max Stirner and to a lesser extent old Marx are some of the few thinkers I can think of that do). But it sounds like you're off to a good start. The only advice I can offer is to cultivate your power, exercise it on the world and to not let the herd drag you down. So, I hate to keep going on about him like he's a prophet, but Nietzsche descri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 08:28 PM
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Oh don't get the wrong impression. I'm no conservative; I'm somewhere deep in the green square of the political compass. Although I don't agree with it entirely, and certainly don't live up to it, I'm very fond of this passage of Nietzsche's on the subject of future society: We Homeless Ones — Among the Europeans of to-day there are not lacking those who may call themselves homeless ones in a way which is at once a distinction and an honour; it is by them that my secret wisdom and gaya scienza i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:58 PM
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Nietzsche's a fucking hoot. I recommend starting with Penguin's The Joyous Science (assuming English is your first language). As for the glorification of weakness, what he terms Slave Morality: it's one of the larger trends of morality in society, the opposite to Master Morality (it's worth noting he didn't believe in true dichotomies), and it's in a constant push and pull for ascendency. Slave Morality however has a seductive pull by turning inability, privation and general weakness into virtue…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:31 PM
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I think you'd find two things. The first is that most people don't have a clear understanding of their motives. The second is that people's motives are often quite damaged and hazy. It would be a world entirely bereft of many polite illusions that make the whole thing tolerable. But on the upside, genuine nobility would be so special. I think I'd rather not, being able to make it past the "why would you like to work for our company?" stage of the interview without having to say "because I've got…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:18 PM
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I think that's what most people do. It's just in the hurt feelings of a post-sex rejection, when it was found that this wasn't going to work out, it gets reframed as a malicious pump and dump.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:13 PM
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The problem with the other origin of the “good,” of the good man, as the person of ressentiment has thought it out for himself, demands some conclusion. It is not surprising that the lambs should bear a grudge against the great birds of prey, but that is no reason for blaming the great birds of prey for taking the little lambs. And when the lambs say among themselves, "These birds of prey are evil, and he who least resembles a bird of prey, who is rather its opposite, a lamb,—should he not be go…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 06:09 PM
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That doesn't make it bad either. Deception and dissimulation are vital components of our social interaction, starting from the lies we tell ourselves to make life tolerable, to the lies we tell others to keep life tolerable for them; imagine how unpleasant life would be if everyone just laid out on the table their every thought and intent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:56 PM
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Does the guy let's her know what he intends to do before doing it? Has he told her he only wants sex? Why should he have to? You don't expect the woman to come out on the first date with "I expect this to result in marriage and children, and anything less is wasting my time!" do you? People don't typically reveal too much of themselves or their intentions early in relationships (they themselves often don't even know); that ambiguity is normal and part of dealing with human beings. Caveat emptor.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:48 PM
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Fuck off. We should expect people to rely more on their self control. Stop dumbing society down for the sake of its weakest members; we can provide help for those that get burned, but the rest of us should be allowed to decide if we want to touch the fucking stove.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:38 PM
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Sure, if that's what it takes. But you don't have to date those women; take what you want of what you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:17 PM
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Anybody with a gun is still a threat to someone with a gun; the same cannot be said of two unarmed people. That's the difference. Yes, these countries tend to be wealthy, with lower income inequality, with well-educated populaces possessed of real economic opportunities. Funny thing that. It's not about my masculinity; I only give half a fat rat's ass about my masculinity. It's about my ability to see to my own protection. Being able to maintain your autonomy and dignity (i.e. the dignity to not…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 05:02 AM
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If nobody has guns, the biggest and strongest have free reign to victimize the weaker as they please. It's not about "needing" a gun to go to Walmart, it's about people being able to maintain their dignity and autonomy without having to rely on the whims of law enforcement (assuming they're even present). The most common method of guns winding up in the hands of criminals is straw purchases, but the fact is firearms can be made in any machine shop, and have been many times in history (e.g. the P…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:41 AM
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Roe v. Wade was always an ill-considered bandaid; I'd recommend pushing for more explicit legal protections. As for access to firearms: good, self-defense is an important part of maintaining one's autonomy and dignity. Maybe start looking to the deeper causes of gun violence rather than restricting the ability of peaceful citizens to see to their own protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:59 AM
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Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:56 AM
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So you hope everyone has been burned by going after someone out of their league? Because that's what I meant.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:53 AM
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Oh blessed be!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:09 AM
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It's pretty savage. Not sure if it's helpful, since it paints a rather hopeless picture, but such things usually aren't meant to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:09 AM
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Seems so. If it pleases you to do so, with your gaze that meets all our eyes at once, would you bestow upon us your blessing, that us lowly virgins (for we are all virgins in Chad's eyes) might gaze upon your radiance?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:07 AM
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Damn dude, that's some mean-spirited copypasta.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:04 AM
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Why would you hope for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:04 AM
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Was he proven guilty (I legitimately have no idea, this is the first I've heard of him or his allegations)? The presumption in our society in regards to crime is supposed to be innocent until proven otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:02 AM
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Mine, yours or Chad?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:53 AM
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Yeah, I like Smurf. She's one of a handful of posters here who don't seem to be stewing in a deep well of bitterness and resentment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:51 AM
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I'm bi and I don't get the obsession (well, aside from the Chad memes, they can be pretty fun). I was just inspired by another comment complaining about how Chad doesn't have to be smooth or witty to get women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:41 AM
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Definitely not, but I think it's fair to say most women have tried to shoot for the moon at least once (the same way every one of these awkward, luckless men probably has a Stacy in their past they simped for).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:39 AM
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What my mom does is no business or concern of mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:38 AM
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I don't know about that. There are indeed many attractive pieces of shit out there who none the less have women tripping over themselves to get.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:37 AM
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The whitest pill, you have to take the hand you were dealt and make the best out of it. It's a bitter pill that's tough to swallow, but the results are well worth the effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:34 AM
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I'm not saying it's inconceivable he could have got a girlfriend, nor that he didn't do a bunch of shit that shot him in the foot, just exactly what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:25 AM
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That's the advice I'd give to most people in regards to aging. Accept that aging has a charm of its own and rock it. It's one thing to take care of yourself and even have a surgical touch-up here and there, but some people seem to be convinced they can halt the process entirely with the right combination of surgery and cosmetics. Unfortunately our society idolizes youth, doubly so for women, and nobody wants to be the prisoner that gets shot breaking ranks from the penal unit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 11:23 PM
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Touché.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:57 PM
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Fuck intellectual property. Just in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:40 PM
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AGHHGAGHH! Eloquently stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:39 PM
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Income disparity has never really bothered me. The primary reason I've ever (begrudgingly) considered myself a socialist, of the libertarian syndicalist flavor, is because it's in my interests to be so, as I want more for myself; I don't give a rat's ass what others get. The other reason is because I think such a society would have more beauty and nobility in it, allowing the exceptional to flourish more readily.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:32 PM
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Carrying Family Guy is no great achievement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 10:28 PM
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Patrick Stewart's been rocking it since his twenties. As the other posters pointed out, the biggest thing is staying fit, which I would say is the biggest thing regardless, since if you aren't fit anything you do fashion-wise just falls under trying to polish a turd.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:26 PM
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Nature didn't intend shit and regulation is just another component of a marketplace; neither evolutionary process nor market forces should be treated as axiological goods to sacrifice your interests to; use the means available to you to become what you are and get what you want. That said competition is healthy, makes you stronger and is best to be embraced.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:23 PM
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TFW no fangtooth GF Why live? Also blobfish are pretty normal looking when they're found at the depths they normal dwell at.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:19 PM
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penguins polar bears This poster's no penguin! They're an auk imposter!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:10 PM
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The main thing is that they're not good looking enough to rely on their looks, and so things like anxiety and depression shoot them in the foot.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:07 PM
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Yeah, I could have done with a further separation between those statements.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:05 PM
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Whatever it is, it's Liberalism's child.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:04 PM
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I'm not sure if it's "coming back" but I hate the all-white sneakers trend. However I fucking love that embroidery is in.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 06:02 PM
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I think he was effeminate and odd-looking. I can totally see where he had difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:56 PM
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Just live with it and rock it, I honestly think even shaving your head is unnecessary so long as you keep it neat and go for some variant of "dignified older guy." Some woman won't mind. The easiest and most effective way to deal with it is to accept it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:52 PM
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It's not a pissing contest, but in a general sense they don't have the added wrinkle of being treated as a threat by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 05:32 AM
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I think improvement is free and available to everyone who isn't already doing what they can, but how far you can go is definitely limited by circumstance (e.g. if you live in a food desert without access to a gym, you can do a lot with calorie control and body-weight exercise, but living up to a truly fit and healthy lifestyle is going to be quite difficult).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:56 AM
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Then it's a good thing progressivism is mostly suffocating, life-hating, slave-moralistic rubbish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:53 AM
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I fucking love Kingdom.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:50 AM
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Happiness is found within.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:47 AM
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Why do you assume they have the same attitude? Unless you're going to argue all men that have ever existed are just innately shitty to women, in which case I'd say fuck off Dworkin. I'd contend that the general point many men have been driving at is not "ugly men are nicer" but more "if you make your first priority something other than virtue, you are going to find more unvirtuous men than you otherwise would." Which is pretty fucking indisputable
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:44 AM
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Having a slower metabolism doesn't let you violate thermodynamics; if you take in less energy than you expend, your body will take that energy from somewhere. So if you're calorie restricting and exercising (to ensure it doesn't take it from muscle mass) you will lose weight, as sure as you can't go faster than C. If fat cells stay constant in adulthood, then it's a matter of keeping them in the in a shrunken state (i.e. thin), because we do know that even the very fat still get thin when they e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:36 AM
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As an ex-fatty, it is difficult. But it's not the impossible task self-disempowering fatties make it out to be. Also cutting out soda, booze and extras (e.g. not getting large fries or an extra burger) garnered me easy improvements. It took a lot more than that to finally get slim, but basic improvements are pretty easy. Most of the rest was getting into the habit of making my own food.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:25 AM
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Men in general are considered acceptable targets, because they're considered the evil oppressors, where minority men are not, even though anything that hurts men qua men is going to hurt the disadvantaged disproportionately (consider that if some "carceral feminist" filth gets her way that the only men likely to be affected are those at the social stratas already likely to be affected by heavy-handed policing). It's all part of that short-sighted notion that those with power are evil for possess…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 06:05 PM
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In a world without men, the strongest and most violent women would possess an advantage above the others, that would then require incentivising other strong and violent women to counter. Fuck all would change.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:57 PM
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I don't care about n-count, like at all, nor am I a red-piller, but surely you can see the difference between committing to someone in the hopes that your needs might get met and paying someone to get your rocks off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 04:17 AM
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Is it really their place to be concerned? It's on us to find partners that are enthusiastic to be with us.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 09:20 PM
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No. It's kind of an "I'll know it when I see it" situation, in that I'll have an idea of what woman I might have a shot with when I see her (or more accurately, interact with her to gauge potential interest). As for describing myself: nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 12:07 AM
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It's a better option to be able to provide a stable existence yourself. As for the rest: I don't want kids, I can wear protection and I care what society thinks of me only insofar as I can get something out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 08:33 PM
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As far as I understand, the blue-pill is just everything not the red-pill. So there are no specific blue-pill doctrines; everything from conservatives to progressives falls under the umbrella.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 06:41 PM
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He can call it whatever he wants, but due to the fundamental nature of subjective experience truth remains epistemologically inaccessible to us. His philosophy is methodologically useful, but it does not produce objective truth, only data points that still need to be interpreted through our very fallible faculties. Also Hume beat him by two centuries on pointing out the infeasibility of induction (though induction is still widely used in the sciences because it produces useful, if not entirely l…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 12:23 AM
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He had an excellent grasp on a means (not even the only one) to produce useful scientific data, not how to determine truth; science is not a means of finding truth itself, only readily reproduceable mechanical phenomena of nature, and it still requires the flagrantly unempirical process of interpretation to produce anything of meaning to us. Something can be true even if we don't have scientific data to support it. I'm not a red-piller, so I don't particularly care. I just think naive scientism …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 10:52 PM
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My point is that Popper didn't have a solid grasp of Truth either; something not being epistemologically sound by his consideration does not mean it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 09:36 PM
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For what it's worth, I think black-pillers are the least wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:48 PM
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Popper provided a useful methodological tool, not a barometer of Truth itself; his primary angle was trying to frame science as an unideological process of inquiry with intent poke holes in ideas, rather than a distinctly ideological component of cultural hegemony.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:47 PM
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Not red-pill, but the answer is quite simple: they're still generally tall and fit, bearing the primary markers of attractiveness, but are simultaneously sexually non-threatening, which is why they appeal and are marketed to younger demographics. That said I do think that TRP has a narrow view of what's attractive to women, in that they place a higher importance on musculature than it deserves (probably wishful thinking as it's about the only attractive feature men can control). They are however…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 07:41 PM
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I've seen MGTOW and The Red Pill. It's the misogyny that got them the characterization as misogynists.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 05:22 PM
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That is a solution indeed, but I have a long-term partner and he poses none of those issues for me. I am otherwise only interested in casual partners. I also think men should be more willing to walk away from relationships with dynamics they find consistently unpleasant. But that said, you were complaining about having trouble seeing it. I was explaining it from a man's perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:13 AM
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Way I see it if men are so insecure about getting sex earlier than other people, then they're too insecure to be in a relationship. That's easy for you to say, but there's much less concern for a woman that she's being kept around as an ATM.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 03:02 AM
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I mean I struggle why men think "I want to spend the rest of my life with you" is worse than "I want to fuck you for a night". Because marriage is a fuckton of work, frequently quite boring and sometimes miserable, with high points of only nebulous appeal and often involves being dragged into an utterly immasculating lifestyle, as relationship and family duties come ahead of doing anything men generally actually enjoy. Fuckboys meanwhile get to have fun, get to be treated like actual men and don…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 02:57 AM
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The problem with the other origin of the “good,” of the good man, as the person of ressentiment has thought it out for himself, demands some conclusion. It is not surprising that the lambs should bear a grudge against the great birds of prey, but that is no reason for blaming the great birds of prey for taking the little lambs. And when the lambs say among themselves, "These birds of prey are evil, and he who least resembles a bird of prey, who is rather its opposite, a lamb,—should he not be go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:59 AM
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Everybody is out for their advantage, and I don't discourage that either. What I object to is the mindset and rhetoric of egalitarianism, which creates these awful, suffocating norms. By all means, be part of whatever special interest group you want, just don't frame your struggle as some righteous struggle against a wicked oppressor; admit (first of all to yourself) that you're after your own advantage, the end result will be healthier and feature a lot less time wasted trying to hobble others …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:27 AM
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I personally think we should focus on anonymizing and impartializing opportunity and advancement as far as possible. Force everyone to compete on an even playing field and let the exceptional excel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:09 AM
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Equality is one of those terms like freedom in which it's both quite popular and utterly vacuous. Personally I doubt the whole concept, because nobody is equal to anybody else, so even that old line of "equal access to opportunity" doesn't mean shit, as we all have different circumstances, faculties, inclinations, etc. that will render this "equal access" entirely moot, leaving only that tendency to analyze any disparity as proof of tacit oppression. Also I think the whole thing is fundamentally…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 01:02 AM
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Agreed, and perversely ignoring groups at the bottom that could actually use the help.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:58 AM
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Less whining, complaining, and moral handwringing I don't think there's any satisfying people whose entire identity is moral outrage. As for people policing themselves, I agree, but people policing themselves will inherently introduce disparity, as no two people are actually equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:57 AM
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dignified, autonomous existence
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/21 12:55 AM
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What exactly would we gain for perfect equality and/or equity? It seems to me like it will invariably require scrutinizing and framing every disparity as a product of unjust privilege that must be somehow combatted, usually with some preferential treatment that just ensures that the exceptional of the "under-privileged" group will forever have their merit called into question, wasting time and resources on something that just lifts up the unexceptional, all the while creating the awful, suffocat…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/21 10:51 PM
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I'm already with one. He knows me better than anyone on this earth and hasn't been afraid to point out when my flaws and/or insecurities are driving me to do something foolish. Thankfully I am already given to introspection, and so he's rarely telling me anything I haven't considered. I wouldn't want a long-term partner I couldn't trust with this degree of intimate knowledge. The big thing is that he never uses this knowledge as a weapon to control me or tear me down. We make a point of trying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:25 AM
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It comes from the intellectual suicide of interpreting everything bad in life as the intentionally malicious work of "the adversary."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 01:02 AM
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It sure is. I think we need to work on creating a counselling model men can feel comfortable with using; the current model isn't fucking working.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:51 AM
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Why are you jumping down this man's throat? Have you ever thought to yourself "maybe I'll just try being chill today" even once?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:38 AM
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Take up feeding crows, become the crow master.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:32 AM
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People socialize less, don't have as many public social outlets and are generally more isolated. Economics plays a large role as being broke and living at home is a huge drag factor. I also think the progressive focus on "equity at all costs, regardless of whether this is actually desirable, will help anyone lead more fulfilling lives or will just make everyone miserable as we try to make society into a square circle" plays a role, since I do think there is an instinctive element of hypergamy (n…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/21 12:26 AM
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My apologies for my irrelevant tangent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 11:10 PM
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conservative blog pins decline in [good thing] on decline in religiosity You don't fucking say. I'd say it'd be impossible to get good data on the sex people are having considering that it's something that largely goes unrecorded and is considered intensely private. I'd also say it's questionable to pin it on a decline in marriage, since a decidedly sexual cohabitation typically precedes marriage (it isn't the fucking 30s anymore), and the age groups finding it more difficult to find partners ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 10:48 PM
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Exactly, it's why I said counselling would a good addition.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:15 PM
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Generally. The problems arise when the pursuit of this validation become a detriment to one's mental health. Also BDD and cosmetic surgery can be a very bad combination.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 06:35 PM
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From what I know of it cosmetic surgery has generally positive psychological effects, and risks are fairly minimal. I think it's a fine option for those unhappy with their appearance. Though I also think pairing it with counselling would be best. As far as I've heard, I would say that steroids are a poor idea just from a health standpoint, but I haven't done much research on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 07:56 AM
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I think of it like a thumbs-up/thumbs-down. A random thumbs-up from a stranger is meaningless, but generally delightful, a random thumbs-down from a stranger is similarly meaningless, but raises the question of why they thought you'd give a shit. Maybe I just don't get the culture here. Also I don't think it's a matter of fear. I know there's generally nothing to be afraid of in internet discussion. It just seems weird to me that they'd go to the effort of impacting a worthless point score if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 04:49 AM
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Who's complaining? I adore the pettiness of it, as it's an utterly impotent act.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/21 04:14 AM
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Dunno, but I realized I cared when I noticed that I fucking hate blackheads, ingrown hairs and pimples.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:20 PM
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Gosling, waifu master.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 11:19 PM
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I kind of enjoy upvoting, as I said, it's like giving someone a thumbs-up, but I haven't felt the urge to downvote anyone on reddit (done it some times on imgur when I used to hang out there but I have since come to see it as pointless, as I know how little I care about it; I either reply to the comment or ignore it).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 09:33 PM
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Entirely likely. Anybody really big on traditional cocktails is likely to have one. I'd also check local thrift stores, as I've noticed people will get them for special occasions only to never use them (like most bartending supplies) which means they sometimes wind up there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:54 PM
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In a pinch, you could use a wooden spoon, but I'd recommend a proper muddler.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:51 PM
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You use a muddler and you just kinda mash and twist it a bit in the bottom to damage the leaves so as to bring their juices out. T. Mint Julep patrician.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 07:47 PM
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Dang dude. That sounds pretty nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:49 PM
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That's an interesting feature indeed. Encouraging both reporting of trolls and having to engage with dissent. I wonder how many comment chains turn into slapfights as a result (this is not a bad thing).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:47 PM
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I usually imagine some smug-looking soyjack. Memes have destroyed my brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:45 PM
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I love the voting system on reddit, particularly downvoting. Not because I think it actually improves the community, if anything it just reinforces the site's echo-chambers, minimizing the number of dissenting opinions users have to encounter, but because it's funny that people think it's something significant. An upvote is worth roughly a thumbs-up from a random person, and inversely similarly for a downvote, which makes downvoting an utterly pointless, completely passive-aggressive action, esp…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/21 05:36 PM
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Dickass tomatoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:57 PM
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I suspect future generations will come to view our overuse with plastics with the same smarmy scorn we view the Roman's overuse of lead and pewter.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:54 PM
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Considering that as far as I've read, men are also fucking miserable, I'd say they're not an adequate substitute. For my part, I'd say a big motive is that we've lost sight of a fundamental fact of our existence: we will die and it is in fact the only thing all living human beings are guaranteed to do. So in pursuing this perfectly safe, ideal (equal, fair, just, whatever) society that's just a secularized kingdom of heaven, we've crippled our ability to live authentically, because we cannot liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:29 PM
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First I've heard of them. I'll check them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:18 PM
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I'll have to come back to those, thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:22 AM
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Thanks for sharing dude. I'll poke through them over time (it's getting late in my day).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:22 AM
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That sounds fucking awesome, no lie. And yeah, I'll totally be adding them to my repetoir.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:49 AM
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Cool beans, the man is indeed a musical genius.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:48 AM
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Not just (I added a bit to my comment), but very much so. Anyhow, Black Metal's a weird genre, because if you listen to the album it's named for, Venom's Black Metal, it's hard to figure out how the genre went the way it did, as it sounds almost like hardcore. Though the thing with genres is that like any category definition, it's fundamentally arbitrary. I just call it black metal because that's what I found it listed under. I'll totaly check all those bands out though, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:47 AM
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I'm afraid I don't have Apple music, but if that's what it says on the tin, nice, fucking nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:12 AM
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That first album sounds intriguing but I'll have to come back to it. HEALTH sounds right up my alley honestly, some serious Ghost in the Shell shit. I've heard the name Halsey before, and I'm pleased to finally put some music to the name, even it doesn't sound entirely my bag. Failure's got some 90s grunge sound going on, I like it and will totally come back to it. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 02:06 AM
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I've been big on this German black metal band 1914 of late, and on a long-running Against Me! (song picked in part because it's vaguely PPD related) kick, as both manage to stir up a bit of emotion in me. If I had to pick a fave... I think I'd go with Motörhead right now, though Dance With the Dead is one I keep returning to and I'll never not love Amon Amarth (I especially like how they've always caught the sense of morose fatalism found in Norse mythology). Other noteworthies would be the goth…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:58 AM
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I appreciate the offer, but althought I can appreciate the musical merit, these are distinctly not my speed. I was mainly curious what PPD folks listen to. Thank you though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:49 AM
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They're wild, I'll poke through their discography. Thanks man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:44 AM
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Those are some chill tunes, I approve. Thanks for sharing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:36 AM
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Damn dude, I'm just not that hardcore.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:28 AM
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I hate to out myself as an out of touch boomer, Kanye?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:27 AM
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That's some wild stuff. Not exactly my speed, but I'm glad to have listened to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 01:26 AM
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What are you folks listening to these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 12:38 AM
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Just like some Chads post on TRP. Being damaged and wanting to punish the opposite sex cuts across desirability levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:11 PM
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Nah, Stacy is their ideal. FDS aspires to being the woman whom men will fall over themselves to do things for and funnel resources into for nothing but a fleeting hope that she might sleep with them, the same way TRP aspires to be the man whom women will trip over themselves to be sexually available to for nothing but a fleeting hope that he might commit to them. They're both essentially childish revenge-fantasies that are focused more on exercising power over the opposite sex as a means to puni…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:51 PM
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I don't follow American politics, but is there any reason to think she means to be an exception?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:34 PM
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Makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:25 PM
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I just use this and a tape measure. But yeah, fuck unnecessary apps. I hate it when companies kneecap their fucking websites to push an app (imgur springs readily to mind; it had a fine mobile website, which it turned to shit to push an app that was basically the mobile website but shittier).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:24 PM
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I think the thing with women preferring (slightly) older men comes back to lingering (could be instinctual) ideas about older men being more authoritative.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 07:06 PM
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Yeah, women don't do all that shit for the man. They do that shit because it gives an edge in competing with other women. I've known lots of women who don't do much more than basic grooming and style; men don't seem to care. To hell with that lady. I hope she grows the fuck up. Also, being willing to spend money shows only that one has money (or is willing to go into debt) and will spend it; I've known plenty of generous abusers, slackers and slobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 06:15 AM
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.workoutinc.yoga.beginners.free.workouts.studio It was one of the ten minute beginner ones on here. I did it to help with some pain in my back and neck, it helped.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:57 PM
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alternative to feminism I don't think there has to be one. It stands to reason women should pool their power to look after their interests as a demographic and men should do likewise. That said, don't blame the systemic for the personal, take responsibility for your own interests and don't let yourself come to be defined by participation in a mass movement that will use you, destroy you and discard you. Also get some fucking help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:14 PM
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I used to do a dead simple ten minute routine 7 days a week. Helped a lot with my squat form.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:06 PM
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Shyness can be worked on, but literally the only way to work on it is to push yourself out of your comfort zone and interact more with others.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/21 08:03 PM
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I couldn't give less of a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/21 11:00 PM
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I think men in a general sense feel harried by women. Our sexuality is scrutinized, attacked, framed in the most unflattering terms and generally roundly discouraged (unless we're hot, in which case many women make absolute fools of themselves trying to facilitate it). It's only natural men will want to fling shit back (the irony being that this flung shit initially came from generations before, when it was flung at the sexuality of women).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 11:29 PM
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I have difficulty disagreeing, women should jealously guard their autonomy, but at the same point in time, do you expect men to be eager to wife up older women who are going to treat them as a backburner project while still largely expecting them to foot the bill for courtship and make significantly more than them? Why would any successful man want that when there are better (for him) options out there? Also some of your points are failing to keep in mind that correlation doesn't neceasarily equ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 11:54 PM
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Diddle yourself with whatever hunk of metal, plastic or rubber you want. Just understand you're partner is probably not going to appreciate being held to the standards you'd hold to a device designed for sexual stimulation. That said, try not to be insecure about your partner occasionally seeing to their needs; sometimes one just wants to get off without any fucking fuss. This all goes for both genders. There that about covers my thoughts on it. Oh also sex robots are still just sex toys, they'd…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 10:52 PM
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Because trafficking is a convenient excuse to dress up their distaste for porn. Plus porn makes a lot of women very insecure; they absolutely loathe having to compete with it for a partner's sexual attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 05:59 PM
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Yeah, I think the internet, affording us the ability to wall ourselves from those who disagree with us, has compromised our ability to handle any disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 09:33 PM
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I think it's mainly that tendency to over-identify with political ideologies you find among people looking for a quick personality substitute.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:26 PM
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That's a pretty significant difference in ideology however. I mean more the seething contempt conservative liberals and progressive liberals have for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 07:25 PM
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Yeah, I for one can't fathom why different flavors of liberal are so averse to one-another. It's not like they're anarchists and fascists trying to make it work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/21 05:46 PM
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It's exactly what I meant; what would make you think otherwise?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 11:50 PM
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Look out for yourself, and take actual steps towards making real changes in the world; don't expect others to just be better, because you might as well wish for the kingdom of heaven.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:40 PM
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It's everyone's own concern to protect their autonomy and security.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:33 PM
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Well I'd ask if you're OK with the child going unsupported here, why you wouldn't be OK with them going supported when the man just wasn't ready to be a father, since regardless of any actions of the mother, the result is an unsupported child. Personally my position is that child support is an ineffectual bandaid that needs to be replaced.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/21 01:14 PM
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Apparently it is a crime. But I'd ask what difference it would make. He'd still be on the hook for the kid.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:40 PM
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We desperately need a better solution than child support. It's horrific that men can have their lives ruined in this fashion. When I get back into dating, I'm getting a fucking vasectomy; I'm getting to the age where some of these ladies have baby rabies.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 05:38 PM
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As I said, I do get it. Although this account is new, I have said some very bitter things under prior accounts. But as I said, this isn't helping these men lead authentic lives, or find satisfying relationships. That boy being hurt is understandable, and quite similar in that all he accomplished was denying himself the chance to play the game and have some fun. So it is with these men (who I should add are not boys anymore) who are denying themselves chances at fulfilling relationships. That's n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:46 PM
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BMI was skyrocketing well before body positivity. You have your causation backwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 05:35 PM
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Goose is definitely the more charming of the two going by those photos. He's actually kind of cute, if not really my type.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:21 AM
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Which women say that? No woman thinks homemaking alone is going to attract the top percentiles of men. What they generally argue is that if the man in question wants them to stick around and make their home, he'd better fucking treat her with value.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 01:16 AM
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I get it, I totally understand why men are unhappy; I've been through that exact same pit of despair. But at the same point in time, it's utterly pointless to despair about it because you will only ever be dealt the one hand. So all people accomplish by holding on to this misery is hurting themselves, encouraging themselves towards pointless acts of psychic vengeance (this is my biggest problem with FDS and the Red Pill, both which weaponize sex as such a means) and inhibiting their ability to l…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/21 12:32 AM
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Surely there are women out there that don't drive you so wild with passion as to discard all common sense that you could none the less establish a fulfilling romantic and sexual relationship with. Do you discard these women by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:06 PM
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Well I think humanity's great spiritual enemy is mainly its inability to find meaning in its own existence, accept its finality (as well as the finality of all human existence), and foster an appreciation for the intrinsic unfairness of existence. This leads us to prioritize comfort, safety and fairness above all else, as though we can do away with suffering, death and injustice, creating a suffocating society that it is very difficult to live authentically in. As for small republics, I don't th…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:59 PM
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Shaming people is generally fucking pointless and counterproductive. That said I do think there's something to be said for encouraging people to be realistic about what they can get out of life and being more willing to appreciate what is available to them (and simultaneously teaching people not to sell themselves short).
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 09:00 PM
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Well my primary influence in my general outlook, Max Stirner, was an anarchist (though he never called himself such, and for good reason) and the main reasons I don't call myself one anymore are that I dislike the fact anarchism took the form of another progressive mass movement, with the same spiritual disease as all the others, and that I have no particular commitment to anti-state thought (I'm still fundamentally anti-authoritarian, and I don't think states have any "real" legitimacy, I just …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:48 PM
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So this is going to sound very authoritarian, but I assure you it's from the other side of the political spectrum, I've never been a big believer in constitutional rights; I think they're worth just slightly less than the paper on which they're written as a means to protect our autonomy and quite often serve as a basis to deny our autonomy. To this end I think it behooves us as individuals to use our power to protect our autonomy through the means available to us. While I would ultimately prefer…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 05:26 PM
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Unwanted pregnancies are body-horror scenarios and the idea of one of the women close to me having to endure that due to institutional coercion makes me angry just to think about it. So fuck that ridiculous law.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:29 AM
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I get downvoted for anti-red stuff all the time (also inexplicably on really innocuous things). Though I think some of my most heavily downvoted comments were ones critical of women, feminism or egalitarianism; they just also have a tendency to wind up being upvoted comparably. Reddit's weird, maybe this corner especially.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 08:25 AM
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True enough. As I said, a lot of it could very well be fragile egos that can't handle criticism; I've known a lot of men who can't admit to being wrong unless they have absolutely no way to weasel out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:44 PM
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Probably not. Some menial go-nowhere job I can replace in a weekend is one thing, but I'm not staking my career on my dick or my heart as they're both total morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 05:30 PM
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That's something people adapt to pretty well, and there is absolutely no evidence it's an effective deterrent. People's bodies scream at them to fuck, women's to keep their pregnancy. Chances are we'd find other ways of preventing people from murdering and burglaring. Likely what we'd see is a lot more dead criminals. People also aren't likely to go full purge; people are still social animals that are averse to hurting each other. But I'm not advocating abolishing prisons (though I do think they…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 05:14 PM
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Yes, it absolutely is less onerous than raising a child you can't afford. You get a solid roof over your head, three square meals a day and no concerns about managing necessities. The social life is hellish and violent, but the social life for a lot of people on the lower end of the socio-economic ladder is often already hellish and violent, particularly for mothers of insufficient means. The hardest part of it would likely be the emotional trauma of being separated from their kid, which might n…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 04:39 PM
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Yeah, men can be pretty fucking weird about stuff like that. I'm just saying, it's not all in our heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 04:27 PM
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How would it be cheaper? Foster care is expensive and prison massively so (let alone if we were to reform prison towards anything resembling effective rehabilitation). You think people would be incentivized towards abortion, but if the prospect of having a child they can't afford isn't scaring them off, I don't know how you get the idea prison, something much less burdensome, will do any better. Especially since the people that have kids they can't afford are typically young, traumatized, deeply…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:45 PM
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You're quite welcome. I think it's a matter of time, place and tone. If it seems like someome is slipping into old habits, it can be worth it to respectfully bring that up. However if it's just a fluke occurrence being used to show that they haven't forgotten one's earlier mistakes, it's less acceptable. I do agree that there are a lot of dudes with swollen, fragile egos, which cannot handle any criticism, but I don't think that's the whole of this fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:36 PM
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Good luck fixing government deficit enforcing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:29 PM
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Remember that one's fantasies don't generally have much to do with how they'd actually like to live their lives on a regular basis, and this applies even to ones you roleplay out (BDSM is essentially LARPing).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:17 AM
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Reject modernity, embrace tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:14 AM
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Brand loyalty is immensely foolish, as they'll never return that loyalty. That said, Good Old Games maybe? I prefer them because I like that whole "DRM free" idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:13 AM
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I think you underestimate just how many people will cut their nose off just to make their imagined victimizers miserable as an act of psychic vengeance. Also there'd need to be some kind of replacement for child support (I say we need one regardless) so there isn't millions of hungry kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:11 AM
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Because regulating economic activity is more important to the stability of a state than making sure women don't get their hearts broken by fuckboys. If you think laws exist out of some sort of paternalistic concern for your welfare, you are very naive. Also men are totally expected to exercise their sexual consent intelligently and women are just as much protected from disastrous financial decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 04:49 AM
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I came from a seriously dysfunctional household, in which my parents were mutually abusive to one another (my father was controlling and violent while my mother was extremely emotionally abusive; the dynamic brought out the worst in a pair of deeply damaged people) and I recall my mother would use things that occurred years ago as ammunition in arguments, even if my father had since corrected the issue, creating a cycle in which his own improvement was something of an impossibility, as it wouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 03:22 AM
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Nah. I'm bisexual yet I'm inept and clueless as fuck in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 01:02 AM
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I find the best way to view it is to come to admire your capabilities and envision how you can apply them towards bettering your life; to this end I find it helps to view the world around you in terms of your own interests, so that you can better ask yourself how you can apply your power towards attaining them. It helps also to set goals, things within your power and struggle to attain them. Finally, remember that everything is a perfectly woven tapestry of cause and effect, and that what has br…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:16 AM
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Because finding yourself trapped in an unwanted pregnancy is a body horror scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:46 AM
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Nah. It's just people look at it foolishly. It's not a bonus in and of itself (well, mostly, being really confident can help with charisma and thus make you interesting, which is a positive quality) but more like a means not to shoot yourself in the foot and ruin the chances you do get.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:11 AM
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Interests, hobbies, passions. Ones that bring you glory, enrich your intellectual life, facilitate artistic creation or make for good stories.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:08 AM
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Being confident and interesting do help; you have to have faith in your product and something to offer that'll make them stick around. That said, they still don't help as much as rules 1 & 2, but you can only play the hand you've been dealt as well as you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:32 AM
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Damn, are there really this many broken people🤨 Absolutely. Abusive upbringings are common as fuck. Maybe not upbringings in which abuse was a regular feature, but I would say most people have experienced childhood abuse from a family member or trusted authority figure. The two big problems I would say are abusers living out the abuse they themselves have experienced, and so perpetuating cycles of abuse, and the less common serial predators who, under a cloak of normalcy or even high social este…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:00 AM
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Everything I do is perfectly normal based on a statistical analysis of this sample of one I have on hand, in which 100% of the subjects surveyed are into 100% of the things I'm into.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:28 AM
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Paying for a date is the thing I'm inclined to pick a thing with. I'd say the fact so many women who endorse equality not only expect it but feel entitled to it shows the insincerity with which it is held as an ideal. It's not equality with any kind of conviction, it's just a desire for a bettering of their conditions. Which is fine, but let's call it what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 12:26 AM
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Just scriptmaxx bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 05:04 AM
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I think the suffocating, safety-obsessed, overly-sensitive, written by Kafka norms of Liberalism, rooted in the false belief that nobody has to die because the kingdom of heaven (with a "secular" coat of paint) is just around the corner, is making everybody miserable and preventing us from living authentic, fulfilling lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:52 AM
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Men have always masturbated and looked at porn whenever they could; there's a reason there was a big fucking moral panic about it that resulted in circumcision catching on in North America. So not that much has changed. What however has changed is that men have grown more sedentary and vastly fatter, they have also been growing up under a cultural-ideological hegemony that's been extremely hostile to any form of masculinity but the utterly toothless and ineffectual (and among action heroes, a ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 02:45 AM
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/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:07 PM
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True that. Nothing beats a homemade, hand-pressed burger.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:49 PM
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Interesting. I already knew that Chick-fil-a is Christian, but never had the faintest inkling about In-N-Out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:48 PM
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You're welcome to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:46 PM
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I personally wish the same thing on them as I do redpillers: that they someday heal enough to be able to accept vulnerability so they can once more live authentically, and perhaps even come to love life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:46 PM
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In all fairness, science is actually really hard to define; the Vienna circle and the project of logical positivism failed because they couldn't create a working definition that didn't either exclude key fields or include fields they considered absolutely not science. Personally I like the more informal definition Nietzsche uses when he refers to his philosophy as the gaya scienza. Which basically amounts to careful, methodical, thorough thought or study.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:44 PM
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Never been. But the level of dicksucking it and Chick-fil-a receive have left me to temper my expectations should I ever try them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:31 PM
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Yeah, I don't know. The government has shown themselves to be unable to be trusted to reliably pave roads. I can only imagine they'd bungle this horrifically. Oh and I mean like someone lying to pin crimes on someone they think might have committed the crime (without good reason), didn't like or thought might make a good fall guy. I'm not the mawkish sort who believes human life is precious, we all die and there are indeed people who would be doing us a service by doing it sooner, I just really …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:25 PM
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You know, I never liked it as a kid but as I grew to be a somewhat jaded adult who did indeed score higher than normal on an internet sociopathy screening (for all that's worth jack and shit) I've come to appreciate mint more... 🤔
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:20 PM
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Hmm, I'd say gender is very likely a neuropsychological reality that sometimes doesn't match up with a person's body. While I do think there shoulf be a more cautious approach than "put them on hormones at the first sign of questioning gender identity" (especially since a not-uncommon trauma response to childhood abuse in men is questioning their gender identity) I think perhaps this approach isn't the best.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:16 PM
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That all sounds tempting, but consider carefully the institution you'd be trusting to do this. Anybody can become some form of heinous criminal on paper, either through systemic bias or willful perjury, and there's no going back from death. Considering the level of systemic bias against men in general, I'd have a hard time getting down with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:13 PM
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What's your absolute hottest take, any subject?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 06:43 PM
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I feel it's covered adequately. Anyone that thinks producing spawn is all there is to life is either beyond help or actually a character in some fucked up hentai comic.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 05:35 PM
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All you can do is play the hand you've been dealt as well as you can. Besides, I'm sure there's room for someone with a more human touch to life in coding; there is in fact more to life than our ability to produce.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:43 AM
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I keep meaning to branch out to other subs, but I haven't found any good ones (if anyone knows of some decent literature and philosophy subs that aren't the main ones and aren't hives of some variety of bloviating, suffocating ideologue, I'd love to hear of them). I also anticipate with displeasure the "what the fuck is going on in your comment history" moment that I'm sure would come, even though I'm fairly sure the opinions of most redditors are near the bottom of my list of things I give a fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:41 AM
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The thing is we don't have the world; we're not a communal organism. Most of us are rather powerless and stuck in a system that is both hierarchically imposed and stygmergically enforced. This is to say we're all stuck in a set of social mores that exist to preserve a particular hierarchy (homophobia for instance serves the role of isolating men so they'd be more willing to accept their lives as laborers and soldiers in exchange for the promise a family that would then serve as their only source…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 07:35 AM
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2011+10 still doesn't use an adblocker Shiggy diggy. If you're on Android, Brave is alright, Bromite is patrician. If you're on any desktop OS, Firefox (modified for privacy) with Ublock Origin is great. If you're on iOS, God help you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:54 AM
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Culture's a funny thing ain't it? In the end, it was a moot point because our kid has no interest in ballet. This here is the most important part.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:19 AM
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Yeah, don't get me started on how I think homophobia is extremely bad for men collectively.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:18 AM
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Fucking A. Thanks a bunch. I'll check them out when I have time.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:03 PM
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Hard to blame her, that man is beautiful. Also that is an interesting historical note and not something I would have considered, considering the high culture associations of ballet. Random thought: what's the masculine form of ballerina? I like the idea of calling them all (male and female) balletors, because it sounds kind of like matador.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 11:02 PM
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Do you by chance have any links to share?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 10:21 PM
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So inspired by u/madssmkay making a comment about how underrated Bollywood dance routines are and my own thinking that the perfect metaphor for the ideal life is the dancer in motion, I decided to check out Baryshnikov, to see what the big fucking deal was and you know what? He was in fact a big fucking deal. Looking at this, these movements of supreme athleticism and beauty, I must say that dancing is an absolutely criminally underrated form of self-expression in our society. Further, looking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 09:31 PM
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There's varying levels of broke. Not to engage in a pissing contest, I come from a background in which we lived in a lot of run-down shacks and trailers and our vehicles were generally franken-cars/trucks composed of an old beater and the remains of other dead vehicles (which would then take their rest on our lawn), which was exacerbated by my parent's alcoholism. So this idea is pretty inconceivable to me, even in my current position of relative economic security.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:33 PM
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Yeah, I'm thinking this is very similar. They've been burned by (literally) shitty dudes and assume men are largely the same to avoid getting falling hard for a guy only to get burned again.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:41 PM
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That's surprisingly reasonable. For all that I've talked about class blindness, I seem to have a bit of it myself, coming from a background of "broke as shit."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 06:40 PM
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So kind of like redpillers and how they tend to frame AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:36 AM
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I'm aware it often doesn't work this way, but I hold that ideally money in relationships ceases to belong to one partner or the other and enters a communal pool that they can then use towards bettering their collective and individual circumstances. That's how I've always run it with my partner, and I wouldn't enter a cohabitation with someone I couldn't trust in such an arrangement. So if I were with someone, and they felt the housework load was unreasonable, and I myself wasn't willing put more…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 08:09 AM
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Oh, well that's what you're supposed to do. You didn't marry a slob.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:54 AM
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Sounds to me like good incentive to change things.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 07:53 AM
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Some people love other people and want to see them happy, because doing so makes them happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:51 AM
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That's a viable solution too. One many can't afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:48 AM
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Ah. I assumed it was a satisfactory standard of cleanliness, not a ring.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:47 AM
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Did you not? If you didn't, you did all that could be done really.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:16 AM
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I dunno, I've known some gross dudes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:16 AM
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dudes in crust punk bands I mean, that's kind of the subculture; as far as I've seen, the women are no better. Now I've gotta listen to Amebix.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:14 AM
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That's probably true as well. I think part of it is that we don't have extended family support networks involved anymore. So it has to all fall on the parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:07 AM
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You married him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 03:06 AM
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I'll never be able to get over the whole "doesn't wash his own ass" meme, or why women put up with that (seriously, don't, that's nasty). The only time I failed to do so was when I was so cripplingly depressed I wasn't washing at all (0/5 stars, do not recommend). Could it really just be homophobic anxiety about touching their own ass? Does the rabbit-hole of homophobia's damage to men go that deep?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:35 AM
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I think there are degrees of want and that some amount of settling is inevitable across the board. I want a high quality cut of steak with rich marbeling that'll make it just melt in my mouth, but I don't have a couple hundred to drop on just a fucking steak, so I'll go with something good that costs much less, and it's not like I'd seethe with resentment for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:26 AM
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Thanks! I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:23 AM
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I suppose that's true enough and think working parents need more supports so it's not such a nightmare. I also think that both parents should take a hit to their hours when kids enter the picture so they can be present for early development. That said, I think this generally impacting women's careers isn't that big of a deal so long as it doesn't result in them being financially dependent on men. I'd argue that equity is neither possible, nor desirable or even likely to make women happy (who I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 02:22 AM
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That's entirely reasonable and I'm not a big fan of universal standards. I think if a flipped script works for you, you should go for it. I'm just postulating what I think would work best for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:42 AM
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I think women want more men than people here assume, but yes, men are more likely to go alone because they're entirely unwanted. That is sadly just our reality as animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:34 AM
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skippy Seems unnecessary. But birthrates have been declining even in more traditional societies, and frankly I don't care; there's too many of us anyway. What I care about is people finding dynamics that will work to allow them to lead authentic, fulfilling lives, even if they don't meet some bored activist's moralistic definition of equity (and putting an ethic ahead of human beings actually leading good lives is putting the cart before the horse; ideas are tools to serve us, not idols to be se…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:09 AM
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I think you're exaggerating male uncleanliness; I live with another man and our place stays serviceably tidy. Also, seems expensive and unlikely to work, considering many (most?) families can't afford any property, let alone a duplex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 01:03 AM
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Maybe, but you're still not going to convince men to want to become women to satisfy feminist demands for "egalitarian" relationships, so I recommend looking for solutions that might actually happen and won't leave one or even both of the involved parties miserable. It all comes back to "wish in one hand, shit in the other and see which fills up faster." Also yes, if you can afford to hire people to do this, it's worth doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:59 AM
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Most women willingly take a step back from their careers for family life anyway; nobody holds a gun to their head.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:57 AM
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There's a little class blindness there (it's easy to forget that most of the posters here are educated UMC, it's probably why so many of the complaints here strike me as entitled whining). The majority of families are broke as shit, and among the men that possess the skills, they do take immense pride in maintaining their homesteads (the ones that don't typically live in suffocating squalor). Yes, for those families that can afford it, hiring a maid is a fine option and one women should push for…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:16 AM
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Well, I think acknowledging that we not only emotionally need each other but want each other would be a good first step.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:01 AM
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Also an option, but I'd wager harder to swing for most couples. Household maintenance is a daily task; most families could not afford a maid's daily wages, they however could probably afford a single shift a week, particularly if they aren't burdened by the usual financial drag-factors of alcohol, drugs or nicotine.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/21 12:00 AM
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I think the only solution to the chore gap that would leave both happy is for men to work slightly longer hours and women to do more around the house. Women have higher standards of cleanliness, being more neurotic will do that, and men have no interest in partaking; most men however do not mind working a bit longer to provide for women to fulfill their nest-making desires, and in fact take pride in being a provider. If a couple both work forty hours a week, the wife dropping just one shift woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:43 PM
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I'd say it's more like there is a very deep rift between men and women that neither is prepared to bridge due to the painful injuries and resentment towards the other each bears; I think even without any consideration of kids, men and women would yearn for romantic companionship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 11:35 PM
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My best friend once drunkenly posted a picture of his ass to some obscure 4chan offshoot. To this day, well over a decade later, he still gets a chuckle knowing there's a picture of his ass out there. I'd imagine it's not much different for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:44 PM
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My problem with radfems (in the specific sense of that second-wave influenced social movement and its associated thinkers) is that aside from the fact they're even deeper in the "men are everything evil and everything they are is evil" ressentiment hole that inhibits living an authentic existence is that they loop right back into wanting to police women for the purposes of upholding a conservative morality. They remind me of Emma Goldman's famous quote "If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:06 AM
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Those changes aren't huge. Like minor cosmetic surgery not huge. This has just further solidified my position that making it more accessible would be a boon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 07:00 AM
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Fuck, I misread your question and thought you were asking which men prefer. I was so confused why you'd ask; it'd be the worst would you rather ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:58 AM
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Not much, and hell no. At most some of my weekends would be short a couple hours.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:59 AM
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Remember that the whole project is just a means for resentful, sexually unfulfilled men to get revenge on the women that have rejected them by taking it out on all women, using sex as a weapon to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:40 AM
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I'm no expert, just the descendant of a clan of bushmen, hillbillies and rednecks, but that's what always worked for me. Lard's always been my favorite cooking fat. But that may just be nostalgia.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:34 AM
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"See, when we get sent out into the world we come here carryin' two sets of gifts. The gifts of the father an' gifts of the mother. The two human bein's that made our life. We came here carryin' those two sets of gifts, each one equal to the other. But sometimes the world gets hold of us and makes us see diff'rent way. We get told as men that we gotta be strong, gotta be fearless. Lotta us kinda start ignorin' the gifts of our mother. Go through life just usin' gifts of our father. Bein' tough, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 03:25 AM
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implying I give a shit what you think of me Enjoy your fulfilling sex life, I'm sure the other rightoids think highly of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:17 AM
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So I should ignore red flags? I think maybe I'm not catching your meaning.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:03 AM
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Do you mean not ignoring? Anyhow, I was just making a joke. I make a point of not listening to my dick, that fucking moron has no clue what he's talking about; I'll beat him if he gets out of hand.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:44 AM
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Number 4 (reddit's auto-list switched it to a 1) I've found it doesn't really matter as long as it's safe to eat; it's all just carbonized fat that's formed a polymer surface. I season mine with canola and then cook with lard.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:40 AM
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Have an actual reason for approaching someone that doesn't just have to do with thinking they're hot. But little head told me it was cool and that I should definitely ignore those red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:31 AM
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Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:14 AM
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I think you completely missed my point. Also they absolutely do; I hang out in circles of the internet where it crops up as an insult. I'm not going to argue about it, but you won't sway me. Also yeah, what of it? Soy sauce and fried tofu are great, even some of those vegetarian hamburger substitutes are alright.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 12:01 AM
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I don't know about others, but my hesitancy was a suspicion that they were just going to tell me, in psychobabble terms, to "eat what's on your plate". To continue this metaphor, if someone served me shit on a plate, I wouldn't want to be told how to stomach shit, I'd like a new fucking plate (or at the very least to be allowed to refuse to eat in dignity). But what actually happened is they helped teach me the skills necessary to get, even take if it called for it, a new plate of food, and to h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:34 PM
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Certainly, it's no silver bullet. But I can say it helped me a lot and I never became dependent on my therapist. I'll be going down from monthly visits to seeing them every three months after my next session. It was however a long, painful road of personal growth in which I dragged myself out of some horrible misery before I could even reach the point of being able to benefit from therapy. Inner growth is very difficult and intensely painful.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:30 PM
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Mostly because the CIA is out of the business of randomly slipping people LSD.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 10:27 PM
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Any words of wisdom you would like to share? Therapy gets a bad rap here, but cognitive behavioral therapy helped me a lot. It's about teaching the skills to cope (this is not a bad word) with hurtful thoughts and rewiring your brain to favor the areas associated with constructive, logical reasoning rather than the portions associated with fear and survival responses that have as a result of trauma likely been made more prominent in your neurological processes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:38 PM
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Yeah, they really drove the pop-science angle into the ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:58 PM
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Agreed, it's mostly projection even though I do think there's something to be said for calling out that men are emasculating themselves (something I think you're sympathetic to since I recall you posting an article to the effect of "you're not the man your father was"). As I said, I just hate that they blundered into a perfect metaphor and squandered it by being morons.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:57 PM
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Yes. One of us! One of us! One of us!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:54 PM
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Yes, that is why I hate it. They stumbled into a perfect poetic metaphor and squandered it by being a bunch of anti-intellectial clods.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:53 PM
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I hate the term soyboy. Not because I object to it, it absolutely refers to an archetype to be called out. But because it's a perfect fucking metaphor (by calling them a boy you're firstly saying they're not really a man, but since soy is commonly used as a meat substitute, you're effectively saying they're a substitute at even that) and the rightoids all just focus on that dumb junk science angle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:53 PM
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Can't argue with that. I think in lieu of a specific worry, the simplest explanation, that they're panicking because their choices boil down to cripple the economy or let hospitals choke up to non-functionality and so are willing to push anything that offers a third option, is most probable. Personally, I'm just sick of caring about COVID. I think a lot of people latched on to it because they already existed in a state of constant anxiety and were desperate for something to justify it (with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:35 AM
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True enough. I thought maybe you meant something more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:21 AM
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While there is absolutely an innate hierarchy of value in regards to human beings (well, sort of, humans are all unique and incomparable, each something beautiful and irreplaceable that ideally would all love life and themselves, but the fact is we are all subjectively valuated differently by everyone) the fact remains that effort is the only way by which one can increase their value to others; in this regard effort builds value.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 09:03 AM
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So what do you think they might be up to? I've already got my shots (frankly, I don't care if they're going to sterilize me; I don't want kids anyway) so what do you think I should be concerned with?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 08:53 AM
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Well, I don't think it's really a matter of the usual compassionate kindness as a moral value so much as it doesn't really help to put them on the defensive and entrench this defiance as an identity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 07:27 AM
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It's not vaccines that are the fear (well for some of them it is). As I said, most of them are probably just scared of the unknown and distrustful of authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:48 AM
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Keep in mind that what I said isn't a small difference; consider how out there guys on a steroid cycle can be. I'd just say the sexes are more alike than they are different, and a lot of what we tout as drastic differences are cultural artifacts. Overall humans have a relatively low sexual dimorphism. I'm no blank-slatist; I think there is a masculine and a feminine even if I would say that it's a spectrum of behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:29 AM
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Generally, but it wouldn't be the first time a government decided otherwise. Hell, it wouldn't be the first time the American government decided otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:19 AM
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To be clear, I'd say there is a logically consistent, historical basis. You don't think that the businesses, being promised this, that or the other thing from the government (or just strong-armed into it) wouldn't pull some shit at their behest? You're talking about a political system that's spent the majority of its history moving towards Mussolini's fusion of state and corporate power.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:16 AM
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There is no magic sauce. The most we can do is avoid alienating them further into their bubble.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:06 AM
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No. I mean, I'm not closed off to the possibility, but I don't seriously entertain it. However corporations and government have shown themselves to be happy bedfellows that will eagerly work to scratch each other's backs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:05 AM
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You'll find little argument from me. That's why I think the focus should be on getting vaccinated and showing that it's no big deal. We're the monkeys eating the red berries. But I am just saying, our governments have over time given us a lot of reasons to distrust them, and large corporations are nothing more than their equally untrustworthy bedfellows (perhaps particularly pharma companies).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 03:02 AM
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...acting in large at the behest of the government. Like I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but the realpolitik in me can see what a perfect chance this would be to pull some shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:59 AM
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I plan to. My plan basically goes as far as being vaccinated and saying it was no big deal. I think that's all we need to do, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:55 AM
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I think as time goes on and more people proverbially eat the red berries, many will come around. Many of these people aren't diehard antivaxxers, but just people scared of the unknown and worried for their bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:40 AM
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It's not just the MAGA guys that are hesitant about getting vaccinated, and I've been here long enough to know you're smart enough to know better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:35 AM
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I'm just saying, it wouldn't be the first time the government pulled some shit medically speaking, and if the government were inclined to do so, now would be a perfect opportunity. I think acknowledging that their fears aren't baseless (well, not all of them, some of them are out there) would be more productive since they wouldn't be quite so inclined to go straight to the defensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:21 AM
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As I said, I think it's in our interests to get the shot. But I think acting like all of their fears are baseless is ahistorical and counter-productive as it just puts them on the defensive and encourages them to dig in deeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:17 AM
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Keep your limit low enough to cover in a single paycheck and use it to cover day to day shit, making sure you pay it off every payday.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 02:01 AM
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I'm very much in the "just put your big boy/girl pants on and get your fucking shot you fucking baby" camp, but I actually think that the people who are hesitant to trust governments on this aren't without basis. The Tuskagee syphilis study, inflicted on unknowing participants by the government that has always presented itself as the Liberal state, is still very much within living memory and the state that performed it is still around; chances are there are officials that signed off on some invo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 01:51 AM
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The blue team hates the red team and blames them for everything and the red team hates the blue team who blames them for everything. We get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 01:46 AM
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Not a woman, but I'd imagine most dudes would rack up a ridiculous notch count if they could.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 12:43 AM
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It doesn't just apply to men; although women just about all have easy access to dudes willing to nut in them, they do not all have easy access to men willing to stick around and help raise the resulting child, and the quality of the men willing to do so varies widely among women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 12:22 AM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: men and women aren't that different. Aside from the anxieties and tender emotions associated with pregnancy (seriously, that shit is both beautiful and horrifying) which men can never understand, most of our differences come down to the fact men are bigger and on what is effectively a constant steroid cycle. So I don't know if we desire it more, but we absolutely do desire to be desired; Cheap Trick's timeless classic 'I Want You to Want Me' was written…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 07:49 PM
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Women are in general more fearful and neurotic than men, which makes sense considering their physical disadvantages. In regards to sex, they take on a much greater risk, having to both make themselves vulnerable to someone much stronger than than them and risk pregnancy in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:12 AM
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Traditionalism was hell for men. It was basically a promise to give men a family to rule as a tiny autocracy (that almost certainly resents them) in exchange for submitting to being used as draft animals and cannon fodder. Although we kicked and struggled, we are better off for having been dragged away from that nightmare But the big thing to keep in mind with neo-reactionaries is that they're not typically motivated by any kind of serious ideological convictions or a genuine belief that this wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 12:03 AM
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I never gave a fat rat's ass about The Red Pill to begin with. They're a bunch of ailing children seeking vengeance on the world at the cost of their own self-creation; the whole thing is odious and wretched. I came here initially because I was lonely and trying to make sense of my own pain. I stay here, even after having made sense of it, because I enjoy being able to talk about these subjects. I wish I could find somewhere just a little more philosophically inclined.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 07:43 PM
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Are you being sarcastic? Because I do think both parties needing a little build-up, like turning the crank on an old automobile, is ordinary. But I would also agree that absolutely no "wham, bam, thank you ma'am" quickies is a bad sign.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:10 PM
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In this case, our productive economic activity is coming down to either we change or the world will make us change, and the latter will be way uglier. I'm not advocating for much more than ending some subsidies and prohobiting CAFO farming personally, for the record.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:07 PM
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Everybody wants to be beautiful, everybody is insecure and as someone who knows first-hand what a huge difference in confidence and self-image fixing an undesirable feature makes (the science also backs this, which is some nice icing), I fully endorse people doing what it takes to be happy with how they look (that and I think it can be appealing). Seriously, it's not like these women should give a rat's ass what you think of their appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 08:09 AM
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Yeah, but it can also give the women doing it what they want. But yes, this would be a facet of it; their ressentiment towards men drives them to cut their nose from their face if it means inflicting any hurt to men. You can see very similar with redpillers and abortion; even though abortion still helps men, many would like to restrict it as an act of psychic vengeance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:59 AM
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When you consider that they're acting out of a sense of hurt and a perceived having been let down by Liberal feminism (I'm not entirely sure I disagree, my contention would be that it's idiotic to expect a faceless mass movement to do anything but use and discard you to further its interests), them taking cause against all things that Liberal feminism embodies makes sense. There is also as was pointed out below a sense that this hurts men, and is thus "good" in their eyes. For my part, I suggest…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:51 AM
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Damn straight!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:29 AM
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Oh yes, I agree. For some reason I thought you were making the opposite point in a sarcastic fashion. Yeah, on this subject I think about grasshoppers, which are eaten in some regions of Mexico. They behead them, dismember them and yank their wings off, and thinking about it, that basically makes them terrestrial shrimp, that could be raised cheaply, sustainably, basically anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:28 AM
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Closely related.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:13 AM
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Not surprising. What could you compare them to?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:30 AM
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Contemptible.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:54 AM
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Bandaids on a cancer patient, the meat industry, local or otherwise is a massive carbon producer. Capitalism is a forcibly imposed economic system that rose out of the decline of mercantilism which rests on a wholly arbitrary understanding of ownership (calling it now that someone's going to try that sleight of hand in which they try to swap "market economies are good" with "therefore we should tolerate Jeff Bezos owning a massive portion of the continental United States"), I don't trust governm…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:39 AM
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You don't see it because you don't want to; your ideological bias as a devotee of Rand is obvious. But you've ultimately just subsumed yourself into another ethic that will take on false life at the cost of your autonomy and power.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:31 AM
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People are paranoid. At most all I'd endorse is not subsidizing the fuck out of them and their feed industries. Edit: oh and banning CAFO farming; I absolutely loathe that practice; it is a supremely unbecoming use of our strength; an absolutely wretched insult. Also you don't give a flying fuck what they do; I do, because I'm actually looking for ways we could enrich our lives and cultivate further power rather than childishly stamping my feet at the prospect of not being able to cram my face w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:28 AM
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As I said, ideally nobody will be forced to eat anything. But something does have to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:25 AM
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So my phrasing was somewhat hyperbolic, the big thing that's changing (in addition to everyone reaping what our governments have sown as far as woodland management) is that fire seasons start earlier, last longer and thus have greater potential for devastation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:52 AM
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I'm aware, I have family in forestry, a lot of them actually. Many countries have been fantastically bungling their woodland management by trying to optimize the amount of profitable timber (as well as a bunch of other, ridiculously stupid policies like over clear-cutting, not burning after a clear-cut, prioritizing preserving old-growth forests, spraying unprofitable deciduous saplings that would provide vital ground cover, not removing pine beetle kill, I'm sure there's more), but the increase…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:41 AM
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I don't know much about Debord, but that quote sounds fucking spot on. Personally I think of it as the 'last man' noted by Nietzsche. It's a "lower" tendency brought about of our natural aversion to effort and pain, that Liberalism has aggressively pandered to, for the sake of having more readily controlled citizens, and that Capitalism has shamelessly marketed to, because ailing, unfulfilled consumers are the easiest to milk. The end result is a society of perpetual children that stands for and…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:31 AM
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I'd say anywhere from a quarter to half of relationships, going by how many people I know that don't particularly like or respect their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:22 AM
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Ideally we wouldn't be forced, but I will say that we should all be able to see at this point that something needs to change as far as our productive economic activity. It isn't normal for every relatively wooded area to be entirely on fire every fucking summer. On that note, I find it weird that the American right has always been so pro-capitalism, since it's probably the single most destructive ideology in regards to tradition; either ruthlessly eroding it to create more easily marketed-to ato…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 11:54 PM
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Seriously rightoids, quit with the whole "eat the bugs" meme. They're already enjoyed in a variety of traditional cuisines, they're no more disgusting than shrimp and I want some more variety damnit (also we really could stand to eat way less beef and pork; it is if nothing else part of what's making us so fucking fat). I agree with you on the pods though. Fuck that noise.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 11:05 PM
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You got me there, it's easy to forget the parasitism of capitalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:19 PM
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Oh that's cool. I wouldn't normally bring up old baggage like that, but I genuinely wanted to clarify that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:18 PM
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Well, darn.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:17 PM
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Pretty much everyone has, but now I'm wondering if you actually fucking read my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:05 PM
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Also on an earlier subject that I actually really wanted to give a reply to. You deleted your comment before I got a chance to reply; I do think there is a virtuous character to the qualities that make women distinct from men. I admire the compassion and level-headedness that's so prevalent to the sex, and feel the drive towards conciliation will be of great use to us. That poster however is a raving misandrist who makes a point of trying to drag the men here down into her pit of traumatized mis…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:04 PM
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The pointless gender binary that persist in English would be further eliminated. Once upon a time, English, like most Indo-European languages was a gendered language; every noun had a gender. Then some time in the middle ages for reasons not clearly understood (one hypothesis I find agreeable is that the bilingualism Danelaw necessitated caused people to stop gendering nouns as both old English and old Norse gendered nouns differently) it became a mostly neuter language, with the Norman conquest…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:57 PM
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give trans and non-binary people a free word while simultaneously eroding a component of our linguistic binary still the bad guy Shaking my damn head man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:12 PM
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I'm paraphrasing, I'm not sure what exactly he said and I've never liked him, or any of that "I fucking love science!" herd. But for further reading on my views on the term 'man' see.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 06:11 PM
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In old English mann was a gender-neutral term, with men being referred to as wer (this is the etymological origins of the term werewolf) and women as wifmen, meaning respectively human, man, and female human. I think we should go back to a variation of this, only we just call everyone men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:50 PM
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I believe it was Neil deGrasse Tyson who said that the first trillionaire will be the man who perfects asteroid mining, but personally I think it'll be the man who invents effective (ideally safe, but that's probably not that necessary) penis enlargement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:47 PM
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Trauma responses are rarely entirely conscious. Further I would say there is a very conscious element (in addition to an unconscious element) to the fear women experience towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:31 PM
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Oh? I got the impression it was like Netflix for Xbox games.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:52 AM
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That's fair. I'm not a huge fan of streaming services personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 04:35 AM
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Please, I'd never enter a position where I would be the one packing up and leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:30 AM
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Yes, you should say that instead; they carry very different implications.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:24 AM
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Everyone deserves what they get and gets what they deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:23 AM
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Good ol' internet disease!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:21 AM
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My point is not that they should conduct the research themselves, but that they shouldn't be following anyone just because of authority or social pressure (nor out of explicit contravention); they should evaluate for themselves who they trust. There's no "good" way to do this due to our epistemological limitations; one does have to take a leap of faith (several actually).
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:38 AM
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Ideally they wouldn't make any choices based on social pressure and authority.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:23 AM
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I don't feel strongly about it (PC mustard race; consoles gotta ketchup) but in regards to my "entirely closed-source, extremely limited living room PC" I think I think I want the one with access to old Playstation games on the Playstation network. But you do you dude. Speaking of which, they didn't pull some bullshit like Nintendo by shifting that crap over to a streaming service did they?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:21 AM
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You generally have to be willing to suffer, even die, to genuinely rebel against norms you object to, and if you're not willing to do so, how much can you be said to object to them? On what grounds can we say you're not complicit in them? It's much like Dave Chappelle said, women just didn't like their cut of the take. Also there are a decent number of women in there, even if at a quick look men still predominate.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:54 AM
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Oh dang, now I feel like a pleb. I think I had it mixed up with some Netflix or Amazon special. I'll totally check it out. However, my main influence here is Max Stirner.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:22 PM
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That's because they had that option. However, plenty of men (plenty of women too) have used hunger strikes to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:56 PM
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Is it worth a watch?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:12 PM
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Alright, Hegel was never a major focus for me, so I'm thinking of a quote from a secondary thinker that may be off-base. He's one of those "I'll get around to it thinkers" which I really ought to get around to, considering how foundational Stirner is to my thought. As for Liberalism, it's not as pronounced, but there is definitely an undercurrent of that same thought that history is progressing towards some final realization of a just, rational, free society (see: Whig history), which pervades a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:11 PM
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Hegel, for all his oddity considered himself to be first and foremost a good Lutheran, if I recall correctly. But I do find your omission of Liberalism a little glaring, since it too was influenced by him. The trend is also older than Hegel.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:40 PM
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I don't think it's all women, but it does seem to be at least most. Anyhow my hypothesis is that it's a response to a particular trauma very common to the female condition, in which they've either been abused or neglected by a man, who due to their relative physical disadvantage (endurance, speed, strength, etc.) they could do absolutely nothing about, beyond trying to appeal to the man's sense of decency or his emotional bond with her. So women are left in a position where they have to establis…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:57 PM
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Ah, yes. I agree, atheism as we understand it stems mostly from protestantism, but before you lay the blame at their feet, consider that the protestants are the children and grand-children of Rome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:49 PM
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I'm not sure what point you're making. I'm not saying atheism is undesirable, I'm saying it's incomplete.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:13 PM
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I'm not a red-piller, but I do think that women are generally concerned with having "the best" they could get in a way men aren't (well more aptly, to a degree men aren't, since nearly every man dreams of having a loyal ride or die) and so gravitate towards the exceptional and will periodically test their partner's chops (I actually think this is less a "woman" thing and more a pervasive trauma response that happens to be common among women, as testing the people in your life is manipulative and…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:11 PM
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Men and women aren't actually that different. Women here go on about their "reactive" sexuality like that means men should be OK with having to do all the work to arouse an ambivalent partner, as though a woman a man was only so-so about acting in an intimately and sexually provocative fashion wouldn't get most men worked up. It's fucking stupid, and I whole-heartedly believe that men shouldn't accept any less than a partner who is actively, passionately attracted to them, none of this "happy wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:02 PM
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Yep. It is impossible to make it through life without risking offending anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:52 PM
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Reminder that if you believe we'll someday see the rise of the "equal" society, the "fair" society, the "just" society, whatever "better" society you feel is awaiting us if we just act and believe correctly, you have no business calling yourself an atheist, for you are a very pious atheist indeed, proudly following in Christianity's foot steps as you seek to establish the kingdom of heaven by another name. Do not aim for some ideal world, as in so doing you devalue the world you actually live in…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:44 PM
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Men were often willing to die to change conditions they objected to.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:18 PM
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Do you think Roman men would have been so eager to fight and die so that they may conquer and plunder were it not for the hungry mouths back home? Did women raise a single fucking finger to resist this social order? No, the stats do not agree. I don't disagree, but when you take into account biases in arrests and sentencing, they're much less overwhelming. Even so men are more violent, both in the undesirable anti-social sense and in the desirable socially necessary sense; women's cowardice and …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 03:15 AM
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You're going to have to build your own time machine, Mr. Wells.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:32 AM
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Oh yeah, I'm not casting judgment. Just saying that although not as well-recorded women have had an important role in shaping the norms they criticize men for. Also, every man had a mother, whom he likely learned a great deal from.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:14 AM
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Dust yourself off, get therapy, get back on the fucking horse or don't, keep laying in the shit; the only one suffering for it is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 02:12 AM
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Guilty as charged, but there's no more just world waiting around the corner beyond this one. Accept it, without anger, resentment or sorrow and try to actually live your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:51 AM
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Having compunctions about what grain you ate? Certainly, but people tend to be willing to suffer to change things if they really have a problem with a particular state of affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:50 AM
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Oh absolutely. I just don't think outright denial and repression is the answer. Violence awakens something beautiful in men, and we can channel it in socially desirable manners.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:09 AM
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Roman women had no compunctions about eating plundered grain nor grain grown by slaves. Remember that when women try to blame men for the violence of the human condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 01:02 AM
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I'd say so, but it doesn't inherently have to be directed in an anti-social manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:59 AM
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They stand to gain more from letting their guard down with one than the other, so all I can say is deal with it. Besides, I already said they should be more cautious, which applies here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:47 AM
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It was descriptive when Marx made the same claim, and he had a much better basis for doing so since it rested on the fairly obvious notion that workers would look out for their self-interest, and he was still fucking wrong. Get better taste in philosophers than dorky little weiners looking to systematically ideologize their anomie.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:43 AM
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Are you going to evaluate every person you interact with for worthiness of reciprocity? Yes. Do you think most people want to spend the time and effort deciding whether a person qualifies for reciprocity? They already do, this shit's largely unconscious. There's a reason Christianity, in trying to constrain the strong to facilitate the power of the weak had to tell us the Golden Rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:31 AM
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Those men aren't equal. No two human beings are equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:03 AM
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No, but it behooves us to treat pitbull terriers with a greater degree of caution and respect in this regard (though we should not underestimate the yorkshire terrier either, as both are still aggressive, territorial, predatory animals).
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:02 AM
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Oh, that fucking hack. Clearly infected with a strain of the same ideological disease. I mean progressive not in the associated artifacts of progressivism the social justice ideology, but instead the notion that history progresses towards something (i.e. that it has a "direction") which is laughably idiotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 12:01 AM
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I think if anything women should be encouraged to be more cautious with men. Already covered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:47 PM
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Perhaps. But I think external to any built-up norms, men would be more violent still. Violence can be thrilling, fulfilling and we're damn good at it. I don't think it's a moral failing on our part either; our society survives on violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:46 PM
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Who said anything about making more oppressive laws? I've seen them. Even accounting for bias in arrests and convictions, men are still disproportionately overrepresented in nearly all forms of violent crime, it's just less overwhelming. It's also worth noting that male and female violence are not equal in the same way a pitbull terrier's violence is not equal to that of a yorkshire terrier's violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:44 PM
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Who said anything about paranoia?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:41 PM
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progressive theories of history Oh wait you're serious, let me laugh even harder! Exercise your power you damned fool!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:41 PM
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Oh no! My ideas aren't perfectly in line with some after school special created entirely to indoctrinate compliant consumers! I don't care. We're also talking about qualities that are significantly different in how universal they are and the possible roots. Minority populations may have a prevalent genetic predisposition towards undesirable antisocial behaviors, and I think it's worth not closing our minds to that possibility, but chances are it has a lot more to do with the intergenerational tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:09 PM
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First, you're not talking to some mawkish egalitarian that can be scared off from a point by suggesting I'm not in line with Liberalism's ideals; I detest both egalitarianism and Liberalism. Second, we're talking about very different qualities in how universal they are: minorities are not universally criminal in the same way men are stronger and more aggressive than women. Third, I think policies specifically directed towards finding the roots of prevalent social trends, like increased property …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:03 PM
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To an extent. But I feel also that one should avoid retreating into a shell of fear and resentment, that ultimately hinders one's ability to pursue their authentic desires. You'll note that I acknowledge women do submit to a position of intimate vulnerability with men, and I think being willing to expose one's vulnerability is required to live authentically, and since I'm assuming you're expounding your philosophy of never accepting vulnerability, I'll say that men must do likewise if they ever …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:53 PM
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I would argue only that it is pointless to be hateful, as it actively hinders cultivating yourself and living your life. Discriminating against two different things on the basis of these differences is just sensible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:37 PM
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For all that the manosphere likes to wring their hands over it, I think it's perfectly reasonable for women to view unknown men as a threat by default. Men are almost universally much stronger than women, and much more aggressive. I know from my own life that I'm very cautious about putting myself in a position of vulnerability with someone who could exercise power over me. I think if anything women should be encouraged to be more cautious with men. Besides, look at it this way: if a woman does …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 10:24 PM
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Yes, and that career choice differential could be mitigated through labor action. There are actions that could be taken to alleviate the effects of having children (I think ideally both parents would go down to part time and we could work to bring extended family supports back into child-rearing to reduce financial burdens, and finally establish institutional supports for parents to make it possible to raise children solo). That last part sounds like a clear call for men to start taking labor ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:51 PM
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That's a bit of class blindness there. Countless teachers in poor communities barely have the funding to pay attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:44 PM
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Also not a good universal standard. Reciprocity is something one engages in with those that they hold as equals. To me this would be my circle of friends and associates, as I don't actually view any two people as equal. This standard also opens the floor for psychic vampires and holders of covert contracts to resent those who fail to uphold "their" end; I would wager that this standard is at the root of niceguy and pickme retirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 07:43 PM
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It's also an intensive job that generally follows them home. I think we could pair having teachers getting paid better with expecting more out of them, but first addressing the appalling state of school funding would be required.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:19 PM
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From my perspective, it looks like hard, dangerous work and I can't think of many common jobs with a serious biohazard. Anyhow, in either case I think the wage gap is better addressed by the various pink jobs engaging in serious and cutthroat labor action (also encouraging both partners to reduce their hours for raising kids and providing increased social support for parents). Though I also expressly believe equality is impossible and equity to be immensely undesirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 06:13 PM
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I don't particularly care for universal moral prescription to begin with, being a perspectivist. I feel that morality is primarily fabricated as an act of self-justification and imposed as an act of preserving one's power; where you find an ought you find someone asking you to renounce your power to preserve their own. But in the case of the the Golden Rule, I especially dislike it on account of how obvious people treat it without actually questioning it. Consider for instance an abuse victim wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 05:53 PM
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I'm of the mindset that there is no enough or deserve in payment; you get paid what you get paid, and if you want more you need to either convince someone to give you more or somehow take more for yourself. But that said, teaching generally requires a good education and doesn't pay that great, and nursing requires dealing with long hours and hard, disgusting work, and as a result neither is a great investment for a career, so I think it would be worthwhile for them to take action for more (this …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 03:12 AM
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Nothing in particular. It's just an ill thought-out deontology I've never liked.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:56 AM
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Some men also pay to have their testicles crushed. Your statement does not suggest "most men are secretly attracted to fat women."
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:55 AM
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I think a more salient point in regards to the wage gap is that currently female dominated industries like nursing and teaching are underpaid relative to the education required and workload involved. Which I say comes down to the fact feminism as we know it is mainly a weapon for capital used to prevent people from looking to their class interests (since addressing these would be much better accomplished by encouraging direct labor action, not nagging men about the pay of CEOs, as though we shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 02:05 AM
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Fuck the Golden Rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:57 AM
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Right at the first response where you completely failed to acknowledge my point (for one thing, that point about porn completely undermines your premise; men have no need to tailor their porn consumption to social acceptability).
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:55 AM
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After funneling billions (trillions?) of dollars of materiel and thousands of young men's lives into this burn-barrel conflict and galvanizing much of the region against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:37 AM
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Lady, you asked for an argument against the notion that men not liking a physical attribute that correlates strongly with ill-health and infertility is actually a stigmergic conspiracy, and then proceeded to get butthurt and insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:34 AM
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I don't. Further, I can strongly dislike qualities of a person without disliking them as a whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:11 AM
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Maybe. Though I think the terrain and Afghanistan's position to be supplied manpower and materiel by surrounding American-hostile territories would have made it inevitably difficult and expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:50 AM
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I can find pretty fat women attractive, but the fact remains they'd be more attractive were they fit. As an ex-fatty, I have a strong dislike of fat in general; I can look past it, but it's there. I liken the prevalence of obesity in our society to observing tigers, that having found the waste pile of a food processing facility have grown fat and weak. Would this not be a revolting parody to see such animals distorted, robbed of the grace and power that makes them beautiful? That's humanity curr…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 12:48 AM
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From my armchair perspective, invading via conventional ground forces was foolish and they should have known better. They had only to look at how Afghanistan went for the Soviets, who weren't on the other fucking side of the planet (in fact, if I'm not mistaken they had uninterrupted land routes into the place, I'm too lazy to look at a map) with much more permissive rules of engagement and still fucking lost. I'd posit arming and funding American-friendly groups (and for God's sake not cutting …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:48 PM
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Unattractive and male. It's a disproportionate disadvantage on two grounds: the first is that it's much easier to qualify as a generally unattractive man than it is to qualify as a generally unattractive woman (both as viewed in the estimation of the opposite sex), which feeds into the second feature which is that since most women are competing for the small segment of men they don't find generally unattractive the unattractive men experience counter-intuitively steep competition for unattractiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 06:45 PM
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It's not an invalid reason; there's no review board of romance and sex that makes sure everything's up to code. But do you really expect most men to be happy about finding out they're at a massive disadvantage in a way that a comparable woman would not be? Personally, I think it's pointless to be miserable about it, you only ever get dealt one hand, but I can also see why many men are unhappy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 03:02 AM
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Not even for the whole world would I pluck a single hair from my head. While I do take care of myself and try to maintain an actual style, increasing my sexual desirability is at most a side-effect (a good one to be sure!) and my first concern is only ever trying to maintain my health and express myself. To this end I'll gladly do something if I like it even if it tanks my general desirability. As for my general romantic desirability, I likewise am concerned exclusively with fostering my own sel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 02:46 AM
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and should repent Christianity and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:39 PM
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Yeah, I don't have faith in "people" as a whole, for the reasons you listed, but I think individuals fighting against the current can make a difference, and convince "people" to follow them. That said, it always does my heart good to know I'm not alone in this. I cannot for the life of figure out how people can be so casual about this matter nor not see the threat it represents.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:32 PM
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Whichever partner has the power to flee and drag their partner into financial ruination is the one that has the other by the short hairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:27 PM
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They're basically Christians in a new skin, so it makes sense it'd be similarly suffocating to deal with ardent followers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:25 PM
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Human beings are a hierarchical, territorial species of animal. It only stands to reason that men, who are locked in a vicious competition with other men, would not particularly like the efforts of other men in this competition. Also people that fuss about age-gap relationships between consenting adults need to cultivate more interesting lives and mind their own fucking business; it's nothing short of pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 11:22 PM
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I've never been able to figure out why hypocrisy is such a big evil. I expect people to be out for themselves and entertain no notion that I'm entitled to consistent treatment, instead I do what I can to make sure I receive consistent treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:51 PM
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I see what you're saying. Unfortunately I'm no computer scientist by trade, more of a FOSS enthusiast (though I plan to be in school for my bachelor of computer science some time in the next sixish months once I deal with more pressing personal issues, precisely because I'd like to help people in securing their digital autonomy, power and privacy). Unfortunately I don't trust much in either regulatory or market power (in the conventional sense, not the more abstract sense that frames everything …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:39 PM
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I'd expect nothing less.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:19 PM
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If I wrote an essay about a subject relevant to this subreddit, could I post it here as CMV thread? (I'd appreciate people trying to poke holes in my thesis anyway) I've been here off and on under a bunch of names, and the ideas here although sometimes difficult for me to process emotionally have spurred a great many thoughts in me that I feel are coming to their culmination. I appreciate everyone's time and patience I've received here, and would greatly like to contribute.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:07 PM
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So, your idea to improve your community of hot-take experts is to bring said experts and their hot-takes to the attention of the Twitter mob. I mean the utmost respect, but that's not wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:37 PM
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All very serious issues, no doubt. But I think strides could be made in making crypto easier to use, and more widespread adoption of the technology would eliminate the need to turn it back into cash. This whole thing is mainly a tongue-in-cheek extension of my very serious fear that the increasing centralization of technology constitutes a power-struggle that's ultimately going to result in an absolutely total, utterly unassailable totalitarianism if we don't manage to take back control of our t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:26 PM
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In theory if it's freely distributed open-source software relying on a decentralized peer to peer network, they'd have a hard fucking time of it. They'd have to focus their investigative efforts on specific instances and shut those down, rather than rely on the presence of a centralized corporate structure they can strongarm into compliance (in other words they'd have to do their fucking jobs). On a more serious note, much bigger than porn, I think it's in our interests to take as much control o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:04 PM
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So Only Fans is banning sexually explicit content due in large part to pressure from payment providers. This spells out the obvious: the only viable solution to secure the future of internet porn is a self-hosted, free and open-source, peer to peer network designed to accept payment only in crypto-currencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 07:32 PM
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