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I am (undiagnosed). I have also accepted the original red pill, not today's TRP degeneracy. EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Male racial minorities and male NDs tend to subscribe more to the original red pill than to TRP, often because they have little "SMV" choice. 1) If you want real intimacy and don't want to be lonely, you will have to settle in a long-term committed relationship. 2) Be prepared to dictate the terms of settling... during relationship conflicts. 3) When dictating …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:51 PM
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Yes, indeed! Is a prenuptial agreement or prenuptial an expression of the starter girlfriend strategy gaining traction amongst men? Women can be intentional serial monogamists, and so should men. [More on the starter girlfriend stuff] In that older thread, I argued that it is justified for late bloomer men to lie and manipulate in order to obtain experience with living together, and thus cease to be relationship virgins. It is also justified for the same late bloomers to kick out their starter g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:29 PM
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First wave feminism did not cause the male loneliness epidemic. Second wave feminism did not cause the male loneliness epidemic. Neither sex-positive third wave feminism nor the feminism of the Eastern Bloc caused the male loneliness epidemic. Both of these were sex-positive, by the way. Sex-negative fourth wave feminism caused the male loneliness epidemic. None of the previous waves challenged the notion that, while women don't owe men sex or romantic relationships, women as a whole do owe men …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 02:00 PM
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Me. I only got my very first girlfriend this year, and I'm already 41M. I'm quite a liar already, and quite manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 01:14 PM
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Women do not owe men sex. Women do not owe men romantic relationships. However, women as a whole do owe men unpaid emotional labor. That is, to twist an emerging pun, a fundamental "soy right." Sex negative fourth wave feminism is to blame for the male loneliness epidemic because it challenged this gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:27 PM
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I have successfully lied to my very first girlfriend recently about having had a couple of short term girlfriends in the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:40 PM
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The problem is giving men the “victim” status. The male loneliness epidemic is the "Black Lives Matter" moment of romantically frustrated "relationship virgin" men who are in their late 30s and older. Why? Because sex negative fourth wave feminism is to blame for the male loneliness epidemic. Oh, and while you are at it, the terms "male victimhood ideology" and "the soy right" have emerged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:37 PM
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Is it an autistic shut down, or an ASD shut out? Essentially, an autistic shut out is long-term, sustained stonewalling. It is an intentional act of withholding communication and indulging in a posture of avoidance, neglect or punishment. Further down: He’s found a way to avoid difficult conversations that involve puzzling emotions, excuse his lack of involvement in family life (leaving more time for a special interest or relaxation), and punish his adversary in a passive aggressive manner. All …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:56 AM
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Yes, good sir!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 09:08 PM
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The original red pill flips the script. There will be certain rules that she has to follow with me that she never had to follow with the overt narcissist boyfriends who cheated on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:02 PM
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"Learning" and applying the morally "wrong" lessons from my own parents on relationship conflicts. If that is "abuse," then I have every right to be an "abuser."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:00 PM
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I (41M) met my very first girlfriend through Bumble. I am a fearful avoidant with a disorganized attachment style. I lean towards the dismissive avoidant / Avoidant side. She is a fellow fearful avoidant with a disorganized attachment style. She leans towards the anxious avoidant / Anxious side. She made it clear during our coffee date that she is a fearful avoidant. I made it clear my own attachment style right after she did. Conventional dating coaches would frown upon that early disclosure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:16 PM
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Absolutely! If you have followed my posts on the r/limerence subreddit, that simply means "learning" and applying the morally "wrong" lessons from my own parents on relationship conflicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 06:04 PM
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I am not offended. She does not know that I have accepted the original red pill, not today's TRP degeneracy. EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Male racial minorities and male NDs tend to subscribe more to the original red pill than to TRP, often because they have little "SMV" choice. 1) If you want real intimacy and don't want to be lonely, you will have to settle in a long-term committed relationship. 2) Be prepared to dictate the terms of settling... during relationship conflicts. 3…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:46 PM
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The lady whom I am dating right now met me for the first time on a coffee date. She wants to feel that she does not owe me anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:43 PM
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The lady whom I am dating right now made it very clear that she wants to settle for a "nice man" after having a couple of overt narcissist boyfriends who cheated on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:40 PM
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The lady whom I am dating right now made it very clear that she wants to settle for a "nice man" after having a couple of overt narcissist boyfriends who cheated on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 05:38 PM
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Can confirm. Was a 40-year-old virgin until recent years. My first three sexual encounters were with different sex workers. My fourth sexual encounter is "civilian" sex. I don't regret autistic lying at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:32 PM
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This is not the original SHOE0NHEAD video on the male loneliness epidemic. I deliberately chose her interview with Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti in order to emphasize the loneliness political pipeline to populism. I spread awareness of the first academic study to prove this. Here, here are illiberal anti-establishment opinion hosts on the populist left and the populist right, respectively.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/25 12:20 PM
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We can just lie about it. I already have.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 06:09 PM
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Edit: I saw your reply below. What I have said is an application of the original red pill for neurodivergent men. You could probably copy, paste, and switch the sexes around. That would be the application of the pink pill for neurodivergent women. The most important point to note is that I really oppose the classification of The Silent Treatment as "emotional abuse." If that is "abuse," then I have every right to be an "abuser."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:16 PM
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In which case, my post above does not apply to you. You are both NDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:14 PM
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I support everything here, even though people have overreached on 8) concerning "abuse."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 10:19 AM
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The ND late bloomer man has every right to be selfish in any first relationship. He has every right to be the winner in any relationship that turned out to be a zero-sum relationship. He has every right to be the bigger winner in any relationship that was not a zero-sum relationship. Be selfish, indeed, because "narcissist" is overused these days in relation to actual NPD. The first major fight in the ND late bloomer man's relationship is when he should be the most selfish! During the conflict e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/25 04:12 AM
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The legal age could be moved up to 21. 21 is the new 18, by virtue of young women graduating from university.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 01:38 PM
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This could work if men are not in a state of romantic limerence. For me, however, LO02 is quite the "Becky," even though she is not a "Stacy."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 02:02 AM
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Joint cucumber diets will work wonders!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:38 AM
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Under this scenario, your divorced mother should enter into a cohabitation relationship with a divorced father to avoid being penalized under the second and third proposals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/24 01:15 AM
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Is there any evidence male suicide is linked to never having been in a relationship? Yes! Look at the rising male suicides in Japan. The solutions you've suggested could harm women. Does that not matter? Past a certain age, mental health between the sexes might be a zero-sum game. That makes zero sense. How can anti feminism be ok with feminism? I spelled out the different waves of feminism. "Bro" leftists oppose sex-negative fourth wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 09:08 PM
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More women should be socialized to approach shy men for opposite-sex platonic friendships. "I am not sexually attracted to you. I am not romantically attracted to you. I would very much like to be platonic friends with you." It's as simple as that, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:43 PM
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It's to reduce male suicides. What's the difference? Rightist anti-feminism opposes third-wave feminism at a minimum. Leftist anti-feminism is OK with third-wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:40 PM
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5.25% of adults aged 40 and above have never been in a relationship. This is 21% of the 25% of adults aged 40 and above who have "never married" status. 25%: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/28/a-record-high-share-of-40-year-olds-in-the-us-have-never-been-married/ 21%: Still, 21% of never-married singles age 40 and older say they have never been in a relationship. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/ Why do you think we need to legisl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:28 PM
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Not just them, but also with men in their 50s and even with men in their late 40s. The majority of never-married Japanese men aged 50 and above do not deserve the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:19 PM
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In pre-industrial societies, the second proposal would have been called a "tax on spinsters."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:17 PM
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Because too many divorced women in their 60s don't want to enter into another cohabitation relationship. My third proposal is meant to penalize them unless they do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:16 PM
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Unless they are in opposite-sex marriages or opposite-sex common-law relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 08:15 PM
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Within ten years, the number of US adults aged 40 and above who have never been in a relationship will rise to 10%. It is currently 5.25%. In Japan, 23% of the population have never married by the age of 50. In South Korea, the government has launched a $327 million program to combat loneliness. Only an anti-feminist government would commit to this. College-educated anti-feminism, the anti-feminism of older, romantically frustrated college-educated men, is the better backlash. First wave feminis…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 06:41 PM
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This political article might be in disagreement with you: https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/74/the-parties-reimagined/ Look at the section "The New Gender Divide." The threat that the United States could heal its racial divide by throwing women under the bus is real. That risk is an even stronger reason for pro-democracy organizations to become involved in shaping a future party of the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:41 PM
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Do romantically frustrated college educated men ages 35 to 45 and beyond have the right to become politically, occupationally, and interpersonally misogynistic, such as in South Korea? Politically: Pipeline to anti-feminist populism https://democracyjournal.org/magazine/74/the-parties-reimagined/ Look at the section "The New Gender Divide." The threat that the United States could heal its racial divide by throwing women under the bus is real. That risk is an even stronger reason for pro-democrac…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/24 02:36 PM
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Another poster had a post on loneliness. He had an ominous warning towards the end: Men can't fix male loneliness. Let's look at the scenerios: Dudes in relationships try to make a lonely man feel better, except he can see they're all partners and probably hearing about their sex lives, y'know, by accident perhaps when someone forgets one of the guys is a virgin. Lonely man is going to feel awful he can't seem to meet whatever standard all these other guys have managed to without even thinking a…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/12/24 01:02 PM
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Women who were exposed to major relationship-based trauma at a young age and swore off dating and relationships because of it. This statement is woefully underrated. This exposure should be about their own parents rather than themselves. Socially awkward or anxious women who never really dated at all, and if they entered into the dating game at this point, it would basically be like teaching a high schooler how to enter the dating game only with the whole "older people don't learn new stuff as q…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 04:03 PM
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I attended a speed dating event last week. The young women paid, but had discounts. For speed dating events aimed at people in their 40s or older, everyone pays equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:35 PM
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EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Male racial minorities and male NDs tend to subscribe more to the original red pill than to TRP, often because they have little "SMV" choice. 1) If you want real intimacy and don't want to be lonely, you will have to settle in a long-term committed relationship. 2) Be prepared to dictate the terms of settling... during relationship conflicts. 3) When dictating during a fight, be prepared to resort to so-called "emotional abuse." That is the original r…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 04:38 PM
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IMO people of both sexes will enter long-term relationships with more emotional baggage and less trust towards one another than ever before, and there will continue to be a bunch of kids growing up in broken families (as unmarried partnerships tend to be less stable than marriages). Your first statement should actually be a pro point. You have to remember that people are having less children, so there are more Only Childs who will enter their first long-term relationships at an older age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:27 PM
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Divorced mothers who won't date divorced fathers should simply allow one-sided ENM arrangements for their childless male partners. The latter should be accommodated as compromise for being #3 in the pecking order of the former's priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/24 07:44 PM
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So what you're proposing here is just a shittier, revenge-focused version of feminism for men. Which is silly for a couple reasons, most obviously because feminism as a movement is actually very much concerned with men's issues—mental health in particular—because we understand that when men have a hard time, they tend to take it out on women. Meninism? On a more serious note, this is exactly where college-educated anti-feminism in South Korea has gone and is going.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:14 AM
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I just ghosted a woman who tested my patience for too long. I stayed at a cafe for 90 minutes and enjoyed "dating myself," but she didn't show up until 2 hours after the planned date. She arrived well after I left, so I ghosted the tardy woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/24 04:40 PM
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So the solutions need to be systemic. I don't know in what way though. I'm certainly not advocating for that terrible "state-mandated girlfriend" joke floating around incel conversations ! These three examples are, admittedly, based on systemic sexism. So what? One option is explicitly discriminatory spending in favor of men's mental health. Do what South Korea has just committed to, $327 million, but prohibit women from being program beneficiaries. Make Male Mental Health Great Again And Make W…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 11:50 PM
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My conclusion was based on reading articles on i**** radicalization and deradicalization. A key factor they stated is having at least one platonic friend of the opposite sex.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 06:16 PM
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There are at least three iterations of red pill. The original red pill was about relationship conflicts, not dating. Today's TRP degeneracy picked up PUA garbage of spinning plates. More recently, the term "starter girlfriend" gained traction in the red pill community. This more closely mirrors the Female Dating Strategy (FDS) bunch. Intentional male serial monogamy is the mirror image of intentional female serial monogamy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 01:56 PM
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I did read Helen Coffey's article. She missed one other solution, though. More women should be socialized to approach shy men for opposite-sex platonic friendships! "I am not sexually attracted to you. I am not romantically attracted to you. I would very much like to be platonic friends with you." It's as simple as that, really.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/24 01:49 PM
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More women should be socialized to approach shy men for opposite-sex platonic friendships! "I am not sexually attracted to you. I am not romantically attracted to you. I would very much like to be platonic friends with you." It's as simple as that, really.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/24 04:02 PM
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50-year-old late bloomer breakup: Who is really at fault? Who is the real victim? 50-year-old late bloomer breakup: Who is really at fault? Who is the real victim? He told me he never once wanted to hurt me. I believe him. This is the third Older Neurodivergent Dating scenario to appear on my radar.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/24 08:39 PM
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Only pissed of college-educated men can organize "cancel culture" against the 4B feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/24 12:14 PM
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It used to be, indeed, that men were the economic leftists and women the economic and cultural conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:30 PM
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way more depression resulting in being 3.5 times more likely to kill themselves You didn't mention the male loneliness epidemic explicitly, unfortunately. The first government to spend on men's mental health is South Korea. This recent government policy is a reaction against 4B and the male loneliness epidemic. College-educated anti-feminism, the anti-feminism of older, romantically frustrated college-educated men, is the better backlash. First wave feminism did not cause the male loneliness epi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/24 07:23 PM
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Trump doesn't care about mens mental health. The US flavour of toxic masculinity isn't conducive towards this. There's too much machismo, whether it's PUA, manosphere, TRP, MGTOW, or MRA. The first government to spend on men's mental health is South Korea. This recent government policy is a reaction against 4B and the male loneliness epidemic. College-educated anti-feminism, the anti-feminism of older, romantically frustrated college-educated men, is the better backlash. First wave feminism did …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 09:30 PM
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If they are sex workers, then ironically yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/24 02:59 PM
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There are multiple options to tackle the male loneliness epidemic. These three examples are, admittedly, based on systemic sexism. So what? One option is explicitly discriminatory spending in favor of men's mental health. Do what South Korea has just committed to, $327 million, but prohibit women from being program beneficiaries. Make Male Mental Health Great Again And Make Women Pay For It. Another option is to borrow from the 6% regressive head tax levied on childless women, the Soviet tax, bu…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/11/24 02:41 PM
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Go back to an earlier wave of feminism and argue against those who subscribe to sex-negative fourth wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/24 02:04 PM
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So what? The one thing that the original red pill got right is that you have every right to be selfish in your first relationship. I myself never had a date until age 29.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/24 01:27 PM
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First wave feminism did not cause the male loneliness epidemic. Second wave feminism did not cause the male loneliness epidemic. Neither sex-positive third wave feminism nor the feminism of the Eastern Bloc caused the male loneliness epidemic. Both of these were sex-positive, by the way. Sex-negative fourth wave feminism caused the male loneliness epidemic. None of the previous waves challenged the notion that, while women don't owe men sex or romantic relationships, women as a whole do owe men …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/24 11:59 PM
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I am not backtracking. My opinion is that late bloomer men having sex outside of committed relationships while within committed relationships, up to and including extramarital sex, is "reparations" for missing out on the "sexual marketplace" earlier in life. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1abwoae/should_women_be_more_proactive_in_promoting/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/24 04:50 PM
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Because it's a weird application of the "victim" / "victimhood" / "reparations" mentality to "sexual market value" and the "sexual marketplace." That is doubly true if the late bloomer man has a much higher libido.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/24 05:37 PM
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Yep, that incel word made it to the mainstream.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/24 02:41 AM
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For those of you who believe this, do you think there is a way out for someone who did not get the timeline right? Cheating, or at least extra-relationship sex while within a long-term relationship. The misogynist Tate was wrong to state that "it's not cheating if men do it." TRP is also wrong to state that only "HVM" cheat. I could argue that men have not "adulted" / completed "adulting" until their first act of infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 09:41 PM
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In simpler terms: single males are seen as creeps, married men/males are seen as not creeps. I think that stigma is going away. North American society can't afford to stigmatize a quarter of over-40 men as creeps just because we are never married. Otherwise, you'd be seeing a rush of childless older men flocking to clinically obese single moms for "social proof."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 04:30 AM
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attack helicopter Especially the attack helicopter!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 02:15 AM
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I think it's the other way around. Today's TRP degeneracy is a midground between the original red pill and PUA. EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Male racial minorities and male NDs tend to subscribe more to the original red pill than to TRP, often because they have little "SMV" choice. 1) If you want real intimacy and don't want to be lonely, you will have to settle in a long-term committed relationship. 2) Be prepared to dictate the terms of settling... during relationship conflicts…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/24 01:04 AM
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or those who are planning some heinous long term plan Murder of the mail order bride? Has this become a trope now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 08:33 PM
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I have no long-term relationship experience yet, but I have had experience lying about this already to real-life dates: A couple of relationships that ended in less than a year due to educational and/or career pursuits
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/24 05:58 PM
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Leave aside sex and horniness. This is tied directly to the male loneliness epidemic! At this point, the only options for male mental health are trauma dumping and far worse options. Why far worse? Therapists' warning against men who engage in trauma dumping has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion. Don't stronger forms of trauma dumping cause the listener to have an emotional shutdown? The the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/24 09:14 AM
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There are two negative epidemics for men, the actual male loneliness epidemic and the porn-induced male sexlessness epidemic. Cause and effect can easily be confused. Porn is the coping mechanism for sexual rejection. Oh, and based on what I read in the r/adultery subreddit, lots of women do love degrading sex, even if they won't admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 01:27 PM
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I am glad you posted this here! I saw your original thread in r/asksocialscience, but to respond there would require me to post sources. There are two negative epidemics for men, the actual male loneliness epidemic and the porn-induced male sexlessness epidemic. Male Loneliness Epidemic Sex-negative fourth wave feminism is to blame for the actual male loneliness epidemic. At this point, the only options for male mental health are trauma dumping and far worse options. Why far worse? Therapists' w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:12 PM
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I bought for myself awesome birthday sex with a high-end escort on my most recent birthday. That was only the fifth time this one-time-40-year-old-virgin had sex. Does that count? LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 08:23 PM
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She's Asian. She lives far away from downtown.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:09 AM
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WTF??? Now my OLD effort is being swamped with serious LTR dating chats! One match lives in the SeaTac metro. She is the "settling" subject of one of my threads on r/limerence. Another match is very special. I wanna respect her privacy and not disclose further details on her. Another match might want a tentative date next weekend. I'm not limerent for her, though. And a few more side matches!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 03:02 AM
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Because people in both sexes can improve only so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:02 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/Feminism/comments/18mww8z/the_korean_gaming_industry_is_censoring/?rdt=36892
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:01 PM
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There's nothing sexual about the Genshin controversy. Vocal 4B misandrists should be subject to the Genshin treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:45 PM
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On this question? Far from it! Disclaimer: I briefly flirted with anti-immigration politics before being pulled from the brink and before realizing the substantive sham of the alt-right. This was the era of Lou Dobbs, just before Trump. Having said the disclaimer above, I have the position of Make Male Mental Health Great Again and Make Women Pay For It. The alt-right hasn't figured out both sides of the equation. Even if they had their way with abortion bans and ending no-fault divorce, that st…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:39 PM
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That is a drop in the ocean. You referred to sex. I don't have sex in mind. What I have in mind includes, but is not limited to, society cutting way more slack on specific forms of non-sexual harassment on the part of romantically frustrated college-educated men. Specifically, I have in mind flipping the script on "cancel culture." When romantically frustrated college-educated South Korean men are able to ruin the careers of very vocal 4B individuals, including very vocal 4B co-workers, they kno…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 06:10 PM
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I wouldn't go as far as the OP, but there is definitely a clear road in the middle. Sex-negative fourth wave feminism is responsible for the male loneliness epidemic, and this is in terms of emotional labor and not sex. More women should be socialized to approach shy men for opposite-sex platonic friendships! "I am not sexually attracted to you. I am not romantically attracted to you. I would very much like to be platonic friends with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:17 PM
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Romantically frustrated college-educated men in South Korea have enough numbers to realize the problem and actually organize. I disagree with their politics, but I understand how they can make male mental health everyone else's problem constructively.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 05:11 PM
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Non-violent politicization on the part of men. Make male mental health everyone else's problem!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:18 PM
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This gender division of labor goes as far back as hunter-gatherer societies themselves. Men hunt and gather, while women provide the majority of unpaid emotional labor. "Provider for emotional labor" is the established social contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 04:07 PM
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I think I am spot on here. The epitome of Third Wave Feminism in the west is Sex and the City. It is also why a leftist feminist wrote that sex was better in the Eastern Bloc than in the west. This earlier wave didn't whine about "Emotional Labor!" Women as a whole don’t owe men romantic relationships. Women as a whole do owe men unpaid emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:59 PM
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Can’t say the same for most manospherians I encounter in this sub, because Gender Wars is integral to their lore. You might wish to check out r/leftwingmaleadvocates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 03:24 AM
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The one who ghosted me chatted about her experiences with past boyfriends who had anger issues. Being an anxious person, she was walking on eggshells with them. I said to her that she could have been much more assertive. Fight anger with anger and, if need be, the Silent Treatment. If you recall my Silent Treatment thread, I haven't witnessed healthy conflicts in a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 08:23 PM
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ND men should seriously consider the original red pill, not today's TRP degeneracy: EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Male racial minorities and male NDs tend to subscribe more to the original red pill than to TRP, often because they have little "SMV" choice. Sometimes, limerence for men can be the most insidious red pill of all! Overreach of "Emotional Abuse" It is my culture war opinion that there has been an excessive overreach in the term "emotional abuse." This, not horniness, is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:29 PM
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Don't you mean bipolar?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:01 AM
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This is the original red pill: EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Not today's TRP degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 12:00 AM
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Disclaimer: I briefly flirted with anti-immigration politics before being pulled from the brink and before realizing the substantive sham of the alt-right. This was the era of Lou Dobbs, just before Trump. Having said the disclaimer above, I have the position of Make Male Mental Health Great Again and Make Women Pay For It. The alt-right hasn't figured out both sides of the equation. Even if they had their way with abortion bans and ending no-fault divorce, that still doesn't solve the first par…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 03:06 PM
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Spain's mental health system discriminated against men. As I have stated before, it should be the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/24 01:07 PM
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One answer happens amongst mid-life men and women: those from their late 30s to late 40s. A mid-life childfree man gets together with a mid-life childfree woman. They love each other at first. Years pass, and then the reproduction impulse switches on for the man. He cheats on her and leaves her. That man would tolerate even a gold digger, so long as she bears kids for him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:18 PM
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Not in my area. In my area, there are more men than women attending singles mixers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 04:11 PM
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The original MGTOW might have had a point, but even then, that applied only to the era before the male loneliness epidemic. Now, the likes of romantically frustrated college-educated South Korean men have had enough. They know about the male loneliness epidemic. They know vaguely that some form of feminism is to blame. Unlike their hyper-masculine counterparts in the manosphere, they have organized accordingly, politically and culturally, without knives or guns.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 05:00 PM
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Leave aside sex and horniness. This is tied directly to the male loneliness epidemic! At this point, the only options for male mental health are trauma dumping and far worse options. Why far worse? Therapists' warning against men who engage in trauma dumping has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion. Don't stronger forms of trauma dumping cause the listener to have an emotional shutdown? The the…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/09/24 04:57 PM
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I believe this is called ending chivalry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 03:28 PM
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TRP is hardly a men's mental health movement. Romantically frustrated college-educated men in South Korea can organize to make feminism a dirty word, and have. Romantically frustrated college-educated men in South Korea can organize to make feminism a dirty word, and have. That is a men's mental health movement. That is a men's rights movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/24 01:39 PM
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I agree! I get it that extroverted women can be picky about social status, but introverted NT women being picky about this only signals their unjustified unwillingness to be their partner's sole source of emotional labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/24 04:49 PM
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This is the original red pill: EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Not today's TRP degeneracy. You also ignore the racial element. Male racial minorities tend to subscribe more to the original red pill than to TRP, often because they have little "SMV" choice. Enter into a long-term committed relationship? Sure. Marry? Sign a pre-nup and separate finances. So then you just get into forced relationships with a bunch of women that hate you. And be willing to be the emotional abuser instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 03:02 PM
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And of the passport bros who DO go to other countries to find a woman, if he actually marries her I imagine he's more likely to just... bring her back to the US where we have air conditioners and Wegmans. I don't think that's a passport bro, even if a passport is technically involved. I think that's more similar to those who go the Mail Order Bride route.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 02:57 PM
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Here is where women can be inconsistent. They want to be their husband's bestie, but they don't want to be their husband's only opposite-sex friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 09:41 PM
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Yes. You are neurodivergent, indeed. Autism is a subset. Autists have special interests. Autists also have extreme sex drives, either almost non-existent or hypersexual. I found out last year that I myself can lean towards hypersexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 05:13 PM
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Unless Billy Beta learns the relationship conflict game of emotional abuse. Billy Beta needs to extract major non-sexual concessions from the settling woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:36 PM
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If you're ND, then here's another term for you: hypersexuality. I have read posts on Reddit where a ND woman with not just high libido, but hypersexuality, was able to negotiate a one-sided ENM with her boyfriend or her husband. This is NOT the same as polyamory, because polyamory is about having feelings for multiple partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 03:31 PM
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Rite now maybe only 10% of men care about STEM but if 100% did it would push us into a new human era and rewrite society. Romantically frustrated college-educated men in South Korea can organize to make feminism a dirty word, and have.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:06 PM
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But I have a high one so I’m biased. Like why are we not having sex every single day? I’d like it before bed and in the morning. Maybe on lunch break too. Someone like you would benefit to have a one-sided ENM arrangement in your favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 12:01 PM
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57% of of men have committed infidelity at some point in their lives, not just married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:44 AM
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Secure attachment is no more than 40% of the adult population.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:42 AM
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That's blue pill, not red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:13 AM
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This is the original red pill: EMSK why the "Red Pill" will kill you inside Not today's TRP degeneracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:08 AM
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it is certainly at any rate the case that third wave feminism was sex positivist and dealt far more with aggrandizing feminine traits and sexuality, being open about sexuality, and being giving to each other sexually speaking. The epitome of Third Wave Feminism in the west is Sex and the City. It is also why a leftist feminist wrote that sex was better in the Eastern Bloc than in the west. This earlier wave didn't whine about "Emotional Labour!"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:51 AM
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I must echo u/LapazGracie. There is a cultural mini-war going on right now about SSRIs and other antidepressants, for very good reason. Mid-aged women are more than willing to lower their sex drives to tackle their mid-life depression problems. Mid-aged men are not willing to lower their sex drives to tackle their mid-life depression problems. On this issue, I actually find myself in agreement with Tucker Carlson. Men's sex drives are not just for horniness. They're also for career ambition. Inh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 01:44 AM
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It’s not uncommon to hear folks make claims that their lovers are not supposed to be their therapist, parent, do emotional labor for them, etc… Leave aside sex and horniness. This is tied directly to the male loneliness epidemic! At this point, the only options for male mental health are trauma dumping and far worse options. Why far worse? Therapists' warning against men who engage in trauma dumping has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Male trauma dumping is the only option ava…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/24 05:12 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/x3tp7y/i_feel_like_im_in_two_abusive_relationships_one/?rdt=52676 I need to keep an eye on this old thread. The OP is a single mom who is dating a childless man. She is being abused emotionally, but I have my counterpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 07:55 PM
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I'm talking women who would abuse you, cheat on you or otherwise mistreat you in ways that no sensible person would tolerate -- anything from mildly intolerable women to women with actual mental problems who pose a risk to your life. There is one type of mistreatment which could be acceptable: "You will never find a woman who earns as much as I do!" It's too bad there aren't enough of these "masculine" feminists amongst higher-earning women. Their career-oriented narcissism is at least career-or…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/24 02:50 PM
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As a (possibly ND) man myself, I agree. I can and have romantized older women at times. The most important one is just a bit older than my own parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:08 PM
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That's just second-wave feminism. Sex-negative implies hostility to porn and sex work. Sex-positive implies embracing them. Sex and the City is the epitome of sex positive third wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 09:39 PM
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Which wave of feminism? Is such wave sex-negative or sex-positive? Those are the two dimensions for how to define "feminism."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:48 AM
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The sex worker. This also applies even if she is a current sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 01:44 AM
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This is exactly what you see amongst new elderly couples: mismatched sex drives. New elderly pairings are more like Japan's "friendship marriages." This is also what you see in some neurodivergent couples: one person has an extremely low sex drive, while the other is hypersexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 01:06 PM
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Not quite. It's one-sided ethical non-monogamy. The asexual partner must remain monogamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 12:26 AM
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I wouldn't mind a sex-free relationship. My limerence has demonstrated that I don't need to maximize sexual limerence in order to achieve romantic limerence. But it has to be clear that I would pursue non-romantic sex outside the relationship regularly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:24 PM
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At a minimum, stress positions and maybe sleep deprivation. You seriously think that’s going to breed a generation of mentally balanced young men? Men becoming emotionally abusive due to authoritarian discipline in their youth is a price worth paying. Case in point: college-educated South Korean men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 09:20 PM
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Sex-segregated schools. The boys schools should reintroduce certain forms of authoritarian discipline. Men can outperform women academically, but they need to have at least some exposure to authoritarian discipline. You don't need to go all the way to Dead Poets Society with its really physical corporal punishment, but "Squat!" should suffice. I know, because I've had my fair share of disciplinary squatting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 07:16 PM
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The original MGTOW might have had a point, but even then, that applied only to the era before the male loneliness epidemic. Now, the likes of romantically frustrated college-educated South Korean men have had enough. They know about the male loneliness epidemic. They know vaguely that some form of feminism is to blame. Unlike their hyper-masculine counterparts in the manosphere, they have organized accordingly, politically and culturally, without knives or guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:37 PM
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Pay for the babysitter is, by far, the worst one. I dated a single mom, but she didn't expect me to pay for the babysitter while I dated her. The fourth one is OK.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:59 PM
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It's not the case in South Korea. Romantically frustrated college-educated South Korean men know about the male loneliness epidemic. They know vaguely that some form of feminism is to blame. They have organized accordingly, politically and culturally, without knives or guns.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:24 PM
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I would have suggested r/ left wing male advocate but that place has become Menrights lite. I tried posting my Male Loneliness Epidemic discussions there, but they always get removed. I did see in one thread a discussion on whether of not LWMA should officially align with the "manosphere."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 05:22 PM
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Nope. I actually do mean living together, not just having sex or "sleeping" together for an overnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:17 AM
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I agree! For every caricature "Stacey" out there, there are at least five Emilys who are not sub-par single moms. They have every right to speak of marriage ASAP. I wonder if FDS and "Red Pill Women" cover the plight of Emilys. I think there is a "Red Pill Woman" here who refused premarital cohabitation. She insisted upon traditional dating, refusing to live together until marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:17 AM
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So what? I prefer the leftie, even Marxian term use value to describe the other dating value besides SMV: "What use value do you bring to the relationship?"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:52 AM
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The single parent, regardless of gender, is not as likely to be as considerate of the developmental needs of the childless partner. The childless partner, especially if a late bloomer, has every right to be selfish in any first relationship. My words below apply to ND late bloomer women, too. 1) The ND late bloomer man had every right to be selfish in any first relationship. He had every right to be the winner in any relationship that turned out to be a zero-sum relationship. He had every right …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:36 AM
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(You are married with a prenup but you are listed as the beneficiary on all of his accounts. Meaning you cannot divorce to get any money, but it is legally yours in the event he dies) Off-topic: This is the second time in 24 hours that I have come across this inheritance planning. The first time I came across this was in the context of elderly people cohabiting without legal marriage. How many non-elderly, non-married couples do this in real life?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 08:32 AM
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Not all successful female lawyers or doctors are radical feminists, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 10:07 PM
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Anyone is 21 and above is fair game. Whatever is the "New 18." Men shouldn't have to care about some "half your age plus seven" convention.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:31 PM
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Nope. It's from Dr. Tennov. It's the manosphere folks who invented "oneitis."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:29 PM
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I am a long-time limerent, yet I am hardly a demisexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 02:38 PM
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I chose it in mine. I don't consider success to be a negative, but lots of other men do. The problem is that lots of these particular women are unwilling to date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:32 PM
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K: I am actually fine with high-flying female lawyers and doctors. +4 L: I am also fine with online content creators specializing in OnlyFans adult content. +3 That gives me +12 points to spend against the 15 points available. I choose all of A through E. -11 High-end escorts could fall under this category. Optionally: I: If I choose her having no relationship with her father, it would be only because of... +1 F: So I can pick this one. -2 I am steering clear of H, because sex negative fourth wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:19 PM
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Female lawyers and doctors are examples of this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:09 PM
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The posters of r/limerence would like to have a word with you. Even if you're trying to put forward a pessimistic argument, the phenomenon of limerence or "oneitis" is a very clear exception.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:07 PM
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Mary: Has a very caring and empathetic personality. She's a nurse. She's from a poor country and wants you to send $50 per month to her family when you two get married. These are the three top points in Mary's favor. For the third point, $50 a month in family support isn't a big ask. Has a low sex drive. That's the one point going against her. Susan: Slightly curvy but not fat by any means. High sex drive and wants to have sex almost every day. These are the two top points in Susan's favor. Like…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 02:07 AM
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Either the man can always get a pre-nup, or the single mom in question might be making more money than him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:53 AM
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You would be encouraging a responsible, good man to step up and raise them to not be criminals. There aren't as many not-so-senior widows today, simply because less men are dying in war. I would say that one possible exception where it might make sense could be childless ND men being OK with pairing up with single moms with increasing numbers of ND children. It's not so much about raising them to not be run-of-the-mill criminals, but raising them to not be incels or go down the alt-right pipelin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 01:37 AM
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I have never experienced romantic love that is not limerence, so my gamble is to pair up with someone for whom the inevitable limerence will inevitably fade, Tennov-style. I do not expect any LO-turned-SO to generate the same extent of limerence as LO01 or especially LO02. The absolute "worst-case" would probably be the unrelated ex-LO LO03, only this time on a person-to-person basis. Philosophically speaking, I cannot believe that limerence is merely a maladaptive coping mechanism. I definitely…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 02:22 AM
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Maybe I'm very ignorant on this detail, but I am guessing that "alpha male camps" don't have a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:30 PM
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It's the perfect breeding ground for middle-aged misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:19 PM
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Isn't gender segregation for men found to a much lesser extent near oil rigs, near their natural gas counterparts, near mines, and near forests? Once upon a time, these were populated by a lot of divorced men. Now, they may be populated by a lot of "never married" men. Side note: When they hire sex workers for company from women, the arrangement is "Fly Me To You," or FMTY.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 09:15 PM
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So they settle, but then they keep seething with resentment because they think “chad” is stopping them from getting someone hotter. This entitlement leads them to demand unpaid labor from whoever they actually do settle with, and to cheat when something they think they deserve becomes available. Damn! You just hit the nose in two areas! You hit the nose on the original red pill, the relationship red pill, long before TRP degeneracy towards casual sex. You also hit the nose on a thread about decl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 07:08 PM
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In a smaller city where I live, I am getting roughly one match per month. I have played the international dating game on the premium feature to boost my score: swipe left on at least 90% of international matches who like me. While I have not changed cities, I have set my location to a nearby larger metro area, where I used to live. I am getting approximately one match a week, and I am paying a premium. You, OP, are looking at an average me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:03 PM
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What about the more indirect method? No scholarships, grants, or student debt relief unless you have kids within a current or prior marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 07:02 PM
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Since I am still a relationship virgin, would you please define "pair bonding"? I'm sure it means more than sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:48 PM
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Are you trying to psychoanalyze me? ;) I did not get very my first date until I was 29 years old. I still have never had a girlfriend, even after a few failed dates recently. For me personally, even though I have watched porn since 12 years old, it isn't porn that is the inhibitor... but limerence. so did you also see that watching porn has a big effect on the ability to pair bond? When it is an escort who tells you to reduce viewing porn, then that's quite a PSA from an unexpected place!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:47 PM
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It's both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 03:20 PM
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Isn't the studies n-count for dissatisfaction 10 and not 6? 6 is the average n-count only. It's the same study that found an n-count of 2 before settling down is actually the dissatisfaction danger zone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:56 AM
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I see that as a talking point in online gender wars but little evidence or research proving this claim. It's actually true. The study I have in mind specifically refers to the n-count of 2 as the danger zone, the n-count most likely to encourage dissatisfaction towards a partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:41 AM
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A lot more older husbands, aged 40 and up, have sex outside marriage these days. Either cheat, or bully their spouses into one-sided ENM. The thing though, is that many older husbands have sex with escorts not because of confidentiality, but because the same dating market dynamics favoring women apply to adultery: they struggle to find an affair partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/24 11:32 AM
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No guy wants to think that his special little lady, was another man's slut for the night. Ironically, escorts have a masculine divide between "just sex" and "catching feelings."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 10:36 PM
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Western society is sex-segregating at exactly the wrong point of people's lives. Sex segregation should occur for education, at least up to a certain age. This should help boys be great again, but maybe under an Asian-inspired educational system. Sex segregation should NOT be happening in one's 40s or 50s (careers), which only aggravates women's loneliness issues and the outright male loneliness epidemic!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:43 AM
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Therapists' warning against men who engage in trauma dumping has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion. Don't stronger forms of trauma dumping cause the listener to have an emotional shutdown? The therapist description of this as "emotional abuse" has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. PERSONALLY Personally, if I need therapy, then I might need two distinct kinds. One might be on…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 12:37 AM
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Yes. You can only do so much self-improvement, including socializing. At some point, you just get burned out. This is even before considering the woman who has not done much self-improvement..
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/24 11:25 AM
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I've actually had to leave one of my previous girlfriends since she simply was too much of a slob and expected me to do everything for her on top of contributing 75%+ of our income. Ugh.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 09:46 PM
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Childless men with issues have every right to be upset about single mothers' emotional priorities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 04:38 PM
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I discovered hypergamy hit the hookers as well. I say the industry is almost dead cuz it now costs 1000$ to rent her for an hour. That’s both the US & Canada. $1000 per hour for GFE is insane, unless the escort is a porn star.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:56 PM
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Again, you want the poorer party to pay for the therapy of the richer party? It really seems like you work backwards from your conclusions most of the time. You want women to have to pay the price for men And if not individually, then certainly politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:33 AM
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/feb/02/younger-women-barbie-gen-z-men-feminism College-educated men in South Korea, unlike in Japan, have figured it out. Feminism itself is now a dirty word throughout the entire country. What I have put forward on the political front, Make Male Mental Health Great Again And Make Women Pay For It, is mild but more direct, in comparison to the more extensive systemic sexism they have in mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 11:26 AM
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These particular women need to spend the money to pay for their partner's therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 03:47 AM
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https://wou.edu/westernhowl/the-male-loneliness-epidemic/ For one, research conducted in 2021 found that 15% of men claim that they have no close friends, a staggering 12% increase since 1990. A study published by Equimundo in 2023 found that a majority of men, ranging from older Millennials to Generation Z, agree with the statement, “No one really knows me well,” with Generation Z having the highest percentage of agreement among all respondents. In this same publication, a majority of men state…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:38 AM
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It most likely began a just a couple of years before the COVID pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 02:22 AM
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The solution is zero-sum. The solution is also political.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:41 AM
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I was thinking that you implied that trauma dumping was a form of emotional abuse. I definitely thought so when you wrote: The main thing people who are constantly trauma-dumped on want to organize is 1) their exit As for your question: 1) Men who check out mentally cannot afford to pay for their own therapy. 2) Men who have suffered a breakup from their girlfriend and are left holding the bag in terms of paying rent cannot afford to pay for their therapy. 3) Most men who have lost assets due to…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:34 AM
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Women need to be much more accepting of male trauma dumping, and not be hypocrites when it comes to the different types of empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:53 AM
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Third Wave Feminism is the feminism of Gen X. Culturally, Third Wave Feminism is best exemplified by Sex And The City. It did not complain about so-called "toxic masculinity" or "angry men."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:48 AM
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I can’t even figure out who you are claiming is emotionally “entitled” here It's the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:39 AM
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Before the fourth wave, previous waves did not challenge either male trauma dumping or the provision of emotional labor by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:30 AM
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I actually agree. This could justify the case for sex-segregated schools, but ones in which the boys are educated under Asian-style authoritarianism. You don't need corporal punishment to effect the authoritarian education.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 08:44 PM
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Not at all. All my other posts here regarding the male loneliness epidemic have been about the trauma dumping access. The fourth wave, unlike other waves, has challenged masculinity itself, not just toxic masculinity. Challenging the verbal anger of men in their 30s and 40s is itself toxic. The feminism I'm OK with are either sex-positive second wave feminism ("free love") or sex-positive third wave feminism (Sex and The City).
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 11:37 AM
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"Porn for women."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 03:46 AM
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Just because they're legally adults doesn't mean they can access the right porn. Even if you're OK with your 16-18-year-old kids accessing porn, you need to be aware of the kinds of porn they're accessing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:57 AM
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They need to be hands-on regarding their children's access to the Internet. They need to stop being helicopter parents regarding their children's non-Internet lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/24 02:51 AM
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4) Most friends will drift away as you age, they get married or they become too old to hang out with you. This is why most people become increasingly dependent to their blood family as they age. Imagine being in your 80s and everyone you used to know is dead or has dementia. Sounds like it really would suck. There are some people who are sociable enough to have a lot of friendships even when they're very old and they can even befriend younger people, but these people are the minority. Many peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:53 PM
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Disclaimer: I briefly flirted with anti-immigration politics before being pulled from the brink and before realizing the substantive sham of the alt-right. This was the era of Lou Dobbs, just before Trump. Having said the disclaimer above, I have the position of Make Male Mental Health Great Again and Make Women Pay For It. The alt-right hasn't figured out both sides of the equation. Even if they had their way with abortion bans and ending no-fault divorce, that still doesn't solve the first par…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:45 PM
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Disclaimer: I briefly flirted with anti-immigration politics before being pulled from the brink and before realizing the substantive sham of the alt-right. This was the era of Lou Dobbs, just before Trump. Having said the disclaimer above, I have the position of Make Male Mental Health Great Again and Make Women Pay For It. The alt-right hasn't figured out both sides of the equation. Even if they had their way with abortion bans and ending no-fault divorce, that still doesn't solve the first par…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:45 PM
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I did not have my first date until I was 29 years old, and I still don't have a girlfriend. I really hope Gen X parents are sympathetic to the plights of their Gen Z children.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 06:40 PM
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just imagination and fap Watch out, though. That can be intertwined with limerence.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:42 AM
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I started watching porn right around when Showgirls came out. S***, that's 12 years old!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:39 AM
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because essentially you can quit watching it but replacing that dopamine with something else is going to be very hard Knock, knock! Limerence / oneitis would like to have a word with you!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:37 AM
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Porn is already a problem for the middle third. The sex performance expectations between the two sexes continues to widen. It's like the rock vs. the hard place.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:30 AM
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Yes, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 03:42 AM
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Trauma dumping is not emotional abuse, though. I think the term "emotional abuse" has been stretched too far in a lot of applications.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:31 PM
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It's good that you're realizing my post is not about sex or horniness. To answer your question: Because that's how women are raised, to be nurturers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:21 PM
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The male loneliness epidemic needs to be final straw for the great backlash.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 02:20 PM
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Just eat lots of cucumber, folks! Eat three large sticks per week and minimize the carb intake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:19 PM
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In South Korea, college-educated men are what make the anti-feminist backlash effective, the "STEMcels" and other "braincels." Men are entitled to a free trauma dumping outlet, whether that's within a romantic relationship or within an opposite-sex platonic friendship. This is the only way traumatized men can establish any sort of emotional intimacy. No, such "brutal honesty" is not "emotional abuse." College-educated South Korean men know how to politicize and weaponize the male loneliness epid…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 12:08 PM
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Younger women are more willing to give relationship virgins a chance, up to becoming starter girlfriends willingly. Older women? Not so much. Millennial women are too picky on men having social circles, in particular. Gen X women, Boomer women, and now Gen Z women aren't as picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 07:43 PM
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Most people don't want to be lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:56 PM
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Ironically, didn't we just see this anti-misandrist, anti-gynocentric scenario in the new Barbie movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 06:53 PM
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Because the majority of men and women settle for good and for bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 04:50 PM
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For the purposes of shits and giggles following up on the bear mania, here I go. If that SO is my current object of limerence, or even my original object of limerence, then and only then would I choose the SO. If not, then I would choose the tree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/24 02:26 AM
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Not so much these days, plenty get started with vaping and then graduate to cigarettes when vaping no longer satisfies nicotine cravings. I can understanding cannabis replacing tobacco, so I edited my post accordingly. Still, it's frightening to read about people switching from cannabis to tobacco.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:25 PM
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Don't smoke tobacco. Don't drink. Don't be outdoors too often, and especially don't tan under the sun. A Greek restaurant service worker mistook my age for someone still in college. It's too bad Gen Z is reverting back to traditional aging norms.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 04:23 PM
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It's becoming a new form of segregation. Gosh, I hate that s-word. The very genuine loneliness issues facing many women and the outright male loneliness epidemic is compounded by sex-based segregation. I have seen my fair share of this in careers, well beyond the time-tested divide between oil workers and government civil service workers.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:53 AM
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Not all women of course, but a good 1/5, 1/4, maybe even 1/3 that cannot bear socializing outside their small, female-only friend group, cannot bear ending up with a man who isn't perfect in every respect, cannot work any job they are not massively overqualified for with years of extra education, cannot start an exercise or diet plan that they might fail, cannot handle being rejected even on the apps, just cannot go out and experience life. And with those women going their own way there aren't e…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:42 AM
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You should flair this as Discussion, not as Debate. Nobody has challenged your OP, and the thread has become a WELCOME "How To Meet New People" discussion outside the Daily Chat Thread. I am going to upvote this, mainly because a lot more info is being shared in the comments! Personally, I have been to board games events. They definitely are not the place to meet women for dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 11:38 AM
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And how does the man exhibit dark triad characteristics? Yes, he was selfish, but "narcissist" is overused these days in relation to actual NPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/24 12:48 AM
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In my opinion, divorced men don't deserve the double standard. However, older relationship virgins like me do. I want someone to love me for me, up to and including trauma dumping.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:35 PM
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Yes, indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:02 AM
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The real secret to older ND men is that we still have the same two age group preferences for women that we had in our younger years. We can go much younger, because we can relate much younger, immaturity and what not. We can go much older, because we can relate to our parents' generation. All my recent posts on trauma dumping point to the two age groups most receptive to male trauma dumping. Many women of our age group are hypocrites when it comes to empathy, because they are not receptive of ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:34 AM
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So what? Older relationship virgins very likely want to relate to younger women on the terms of teenage love or college love. Younger women are more willing to give us a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:19 AM
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He also stated openly fantasy of being with a younger woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:54 PM
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He has a fantasy of being with a younger woman The guy dropped this bombshell so early into the relationship. Lots of guys have this fantasy, too, but keep it to yourself unless you want to weaponize this against your partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 09:23 AM
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The original TRP included these points: Verbally abusing women is OK. Manipulating your girlfriend or wife is OK. Cheating is always OK if your girlfriend or wife has low libido. https://np.reddit.com/r/everymanshouldknow/comments/29hbtj/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:26 AM
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I do think that he acted very much in line with the original relationship red pill. If he didn't, then he would have helped himself to some trauma dumping on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 03:22 AM
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The "Anonymous" woman did not indicate being a divorced single mom. Otherwise, that would have changed the equation. We would have to scrutinize further her emotional efforts, because she would not have really sacrificed her "heart, time, and energy."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 11:06 PM
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<Red Pill> B-b-b-ut what if she's a divorced single mom? </Red Pill>
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:36 PM
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This quote answers your Point # 2: He was verbally , mentally cruel to me. He never took accountability for any of his actions in the relationship. He blamed me for everything. He wad extremely selfish & immature.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 09:02 PM
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It's the former, but it's not about domestic life. Men typically get promoted after marriage, not before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 01:49 PM
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Their application of the word "gold digger" is ill-informed. A lot of them are idiots who are happy to not pursue college education.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:15 PM
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Yes, I do disagree, but with a nuance. The ideal compromise depends on how much "overtime premium" the man has, and also on whether the couple has kids. So, if each partner works a slightly-above average job and doesn't work overtime, but doesn't have kids, then I would expect a 50/50 split in house work. 50/50 should be expected of DINKs where the pay gap and the overtime gap isn't really there. The moment the couple has a kid, there needs to be much more reasonable discussion on the "overtime …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:38 PM
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Then those men are idiots. I'm all for taking one step back to an earlier feminism that is pro-LGBT and also sex-positive. At least that earlier wave does not yell unreasonably about "toxic masculinity."
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:17 PM
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Despite my opposition to sex-negative fourth wave feminism, this arrangement is very much in line with third wave feminism and feminism of the former eastern bloc. I think the modern gold digger is just a woman who has for the most part given up on finding an egalitarian relationship, so the next best thing to settle for is the “modern provider”: This type of man is more like-able and respectful than a TRPer-ish man, but still not egalitarian enough to be ideal. These women believe that good, em…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:06 PM
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Because when too many men are lonely, the individual bootstraps approach no longer works. It's a societal problem that can only be rectified by establishing clear political winners (men) and political losers (women). I just hope that South Korean men can figure this out as a testbed for constructive anti-feminism. South Korean mental health needs to prioritize all men at the expense of the Other: all South Korean women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 11:16 AM
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Women have traditionally “absorbed” negative male emotions traditionally as a societal service. Sex-negative fourth wave feminism is responsible for the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:51 AM
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Isn't this the ideal for a lot of men, though? This is the "tiger mom" phenomenon in Asian cultures. Within such relationships, if you want to get your shots at trauma dumping, then you'd better do what your SO says. If you want a replacement mom, then you'd better do what your replacement mom tells you to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:40 AM
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Yes, either individually or collectively. And if women say No individually, then they need to be "coerced" politically.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 10:36 AM
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Therefore if they are no longer willing to do so, then it is their collective responsibility to either provide or fund an alternative service? Yes, precisely! Make Male Mental Health Great Again and Make Women Pay For It. Shit libs will cry "systemic sexism." So what? trauma dumping will (or could?) be detrimental to heterosexual Male trauma dumping is an absolute necessity. Its stigmatization by shit lib therapists is the detriment part.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:19 AM
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Disclaimer: I briefly flirted with anti-immigration politics before being pulled from the brink and before realizing the substantive sham of the alt-right. This was the era of Lou Dobbs, just before Trump. Having said the disclaimer above, I have the position of Make Male Mental Health Great Again and Make Women Pay For It. The alt-right hasn't figured out both sides of the equation. Even if they had their way with abortion bans and ending no-fault divorce, that still doesn't solve the first par…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 12:17 AM
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The first type is the traditional approach that women have taken with regards to emotional labor / being unpaid therapists. The second type is much more recent, and is only made possible by women becoming financially independent earners. Although these women may not have the direct skillset, if they have the money, then the onus is on them to provide that emotional support another way. These are NOT the same as those women who date those men who go to therapy on their own dime and virtue signal …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 11:21 PM
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Leave aside sex and horniness. This is tied directly to the male loneliness epidemic! At this point, the only options for male mental health are trauma dumping and far worse options. Why far worse? Therapists' warning against men who engage in trauma dumping has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion. Don't stronger forms of trauma dumping cause the listener to have an emotional shutdown? The the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 10:57 PM
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She is the woman of my dreams. She is my username. I have been romantically limerent for her since 2008.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/24 05:17 PM
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I honestly think only sex workers, specifically escorts, are capable of doing this for their SOs. They've got the high libido, and they can more easily separate sex and love.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 11:06 AM
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LOL! This is exactly a criticism of my posting style on r/limerence.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:25 AM
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"If you and I were married, then I would be with her and divorce you in an instant." 1) I would phrase it as a hypothetical. 2) I now know the red pill tactic of dread. However, whereas that tactic is an actual threat to leave, this statement remains hypothetical. 3) I would make it plain and clear to a potential girlfriend that hundreds and hundreds of miles separate my object of limerence from me. She needs to know it's a hypothetical, but she also needs to be trauma dumped on. I am a fearful …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:20 AM
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I don't agree with those who think limerence is an addiction, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 11:12 AM
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To those that argue that limerence is an addiction, this would be dopamine.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:19 AM
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Within the context of a couple's fight, I would love to weaponize my object of limerence, LO02, against any potential first girlfriend!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:58 PM
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I believe this is called settling. The darkest recesses of my mind (41M) would love to traumatize a potential girlfriend, even my very first one! Consider the phrase, "I would be with her and divorce you in an instant." This would be uttered by non-narcissistic men who have no choice but to resort to trauma dumping in order to communicate bluntly their issues, whether limerence or fearful avoidant attachment. No amount of narcissism-related emotional supply as a response can address this. Such s…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:49 PM
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Oneitis is not the correct term. Limerence is.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/24 09:46 PM
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You love someone who is unattainable while settling for someone else. The object of limerence is not the same as one's SO.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 12:54 PM
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So do you believe people are truly emotionally unavailable? Have you ever already been in love and fallen in love with someone else? Yes, it's possible. This is called limerence, the topic of the r/limerence subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 11:52 AM
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The immediate impact would be a crash in prices. Just as cannabis can see price crashes following legalization, so would escort prices. More suppliers would enter the picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 01:27 PM
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Women don't owe men sex. Women do, however, owe men a trauma dumping outlet.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:32 PM
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Since I turned 40, I've had three failed dates. That's three failed dates out of four in my whole life, following the very late first date in 2012. The most recent date (<30F) was a self-described feminist. She ghosted me because I asked why she didn't shout back at her previous SOs when they became angry about something. I told her that she has the physique to assert herself and intimidate those SOs to back down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:28 PM
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but if you're going to claim "men have become the marginalized", you've really got to be specific and bring something to the table Here comes the long-awaited weaponization of the male loneliness epidemic. Who said anything about sex or household work? Men are entitled to a free trauma dumping outlet, whether that's within a romantic relationship or within an opposite-sex platonic friendship. This is the only way traumatized men can establish any sort of emotional intimacy. No, such "brutal hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 11:26 PM
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But yelling is always part of romantic relationships. For men, it's also an expression of masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:57 AM
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Non-smoker is an absolute must for me. For drinking, it's either "Never" or "Socially" only. After those big two are my next dealbreakers: clinically obese, clinically fat, and SSRI addicts ("anti-depressants"). Single mothers are evaluated on a case by case basis, but usually "Have and don't want more" tends to be a No for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 01:50 AM
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I have to chuckle at this one, LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 08:57 PM
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Hell no! Heck, the most sinister form of de facto sterilization comes in the form of SSRI "antidepressants."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 06:33 PM
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that men should the breadwinner or atleast be the more stable one That's a contradiction in terms. Being the breadwinner isn't the same as being the more stable earner. Most often, it's the woman who is the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 02:13 AM
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Here comes the long-awaited weaponization of the male loneliness epidemic: https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1camnmb/men_have_it_tough_and_nobody_cares_about_mens/ What you can’t blame is women not having sex with you or signing on for your trauma dumping and to be your bang maid. Who said anything about sex or household work? Men are entitled to a free trauma dumping outlet, whether that's within a romantic relationship or within an opposite-sex platonic friendship. This is the o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 06:38 PM
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It's weaponization of the male loneliness epidemic: https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1camnmb/men_have_it_tough_and_nobody_cares_about_mens/ Men are entitled to a free trauma dumping outlet, whether that's within a romantic relationship or within an opposite-sex platonic friendship. This is the only way traumatized men can establish any sort of emotional intimacy. No, such "brutal honesty" is not "emotional abuse."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:43 PM
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This is on a Personal level, be honest, how would you handle this situation, would you cheat? would you consider cheating? Would you dump your bf/gf? Give me your thoughts and add your gender and age if possible. I'll take this to my limerence extreme: I would divorce instantly any hypothetical SO of mine in order to be together with my current object of limerence, LO02. Consider the phrase, "I would be with her and divorce you in an instant." This would be uttered by non-narcissistic men who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 01:10 AM
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Sex workers do this all the time, with unattractive married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 10:53 PM
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Aunt and niece. Not mother and daughter. Not my aunt. Not my niece.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:30 PM
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She is my first object of limerence, my "first love."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:29 PM
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The first woman had better be supportive of male trauma dumping.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 03:28 PM
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Despite her own shortcoming in recent years, I would prefer an LO01 in her seventies over an Audrey Hepburn in her sixties.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/24 10:49 AM
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Solo living is on the rise, but so is loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:16 PM
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Solo living is on the rise, but so is loneliness
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 04:12 PM
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She is far from being a confrontational person. She is also very smart. I was subtly encouraging her to prepare to stand up to me and threaten me to back down were I to lose my temper on something. I'm not the type to escalate things to something physical.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 10:00 PM
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I find that therapy is excellent for the trauma dumping aspect I am much more skeptical on this point. Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion. Remember: It must cause the listener to have an emotional shutdown. Way I see it, a lot of what it sounds like you’re struggling with (and what i struggled with) is the fact that we were never rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 07:25 PM
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I've noticed firsthand from trying to date autistic men that they often have anger issues and will lash out for no reason. This is not at autistic men, and I do not want to generalize, but it's far less drama when I dated a calm, neurotypical man. Dating a neurotypical man also improved my social skills as well. As an unofficial ND myself, I understand where you're coming from. I think one of my dates (<30F) ghosted me (40M) because I asked why she didn't shout back at her previous SOs when they…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:16 PM
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On the subject of limerence, I actually appreciate that you're one of the few here who can balance humor with serious overtones.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 06:13 PM
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Reading up on the male loneliness epidemic late last year, on sex negativity vs. sex positivity, and on the different waves of feminism, really turned my pill purple faster than meets the eye! While not exactly TRP, The Purple Pill chose me!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:34 PM
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I’ve already seen a few “my gf found out about my AI gf and she’s weirded out what do I do?” posts. Some might see this as emotional cheating taken to a new level.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:06 PM
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How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 02:55 AM
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There's the one and only LO02. I myself have been romantically limerent, or in limerence, since 1994. I've been nominally limerent for an aunt - niece pair for 30 years now, and counting. I've been seriously limerent for that same aunt - niece pair (LO01 and LO02, respectively) for at least 22 of those years. This one relationship has united the majority of the years, indeed. I was romantically limerent for my "first love," ex-LO LO01, from 1994 to 2010. As a Boomer, she is the aunt of LO02. I h…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 01:52 AM
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What you didn't mention was the harm towards career prospects arising from divorce. That unites both financial and social. The harm towards future earnings potential is more social than meets the eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 10:58 PM
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College-educated South Korean men are working together to try to implement this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:40 AM
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All I know is that Option 1 is the seniors' option.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 02:52 AM
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Transfer. Your. Limerence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:29 AM
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As a relationship virgin, I can relate to that man. If he's really that much better with written communication than oral communication, then maybe he's an ND.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 11:08 AM
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The thing is if you’re actually a decent guy with integrity and empathy you’re not going to stoop so low as to being an asshole even if it gets you laid, but it can be tempting sometimes. Women can be intentional serial monogamists. So should men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 02:39 AM
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Do you go to therapy or do you see it as a waste of time? Do you listen to what women have to say or do you deem their opinion less valuable? Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion. Consider these two phrases uttered in an argument: "I love you, but I never fell in love with you!" "I would be with her and divorce you in an instant." The …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:42 AM
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I meant older virgins only. I am including, in my reference, the 5.25% of adults aged 40 and above who have never been in a relationship: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/18cin42/525_of_adults_aged_40_and_above_have_never_been/ I would know, because I'm part of that group.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:37 AM
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1) Did they cheat on you before cohabitation, or during cohabitation? 2) I am of the opinion that late bloomer men are definitely entitled to bully their SOs into accepting one-sided "ethical non-monogamy" arrangements, especially those that are short of open relationships. While I'm uncomfortable with cheating (i.e., outright adultery / infidelity), I have argued that late bloomer men are entitled to have sex outside of committed relationships while within committed relationships, up to and inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:30 AM
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That was a "deleted" user, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 01:21 AM
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Lots of people with high passive incomes like that aren't financially literate. They may be high now, but they won't be as high come retirement. Inflation isn't the only thing that can erode the value of all that passive income. Since you're the OP, I am respectfully questioning all your assumptions. In my case, the early retiree retired aged 50s. Both parents may be asset-rich, but they are in the middle of a cash crunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 05:19 PM
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LOL! If it makes you feel more ticklish, my "first love," my first object of limerence, ex-LO LO01, entered into her first marriage only in her forties!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:20 PM
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https://ifstudies.org/blog/who-cheats-more-the-demographics-of-cheating-in-america
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:10 PM
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If only I can join this group! I am part of the FIRE (financial independence retire early) community, that’s where you aggressively invest in income-producing assets and quit your wage job early (aka ahead of age 65). One of my parents retired early after achieving FIRE. I'm not sure that worked well. That parent is supported by the other parent who did not retire early. He is 33 and unemployed, but he supports himself using this stock of income-producing assets. He spends the equivalent of a $1…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 02:03 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hncg6c/women_between_the_ages_1829_cheat_more/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:18 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/hncg6c/women_between_the_ages_1829_cheat_more/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/24 01:18 AM
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3) Status ..no matter how people try to spin it , being divorced in your 50s sounds a lot sadder than being married in your 50s. We Millennials can brag all we want about having lower divorce rates than our parents, the Boomers, but the phenomenon of the Grey Divorce will only grow with each passing generation. Gen X will have more Grey Divorces than Boomers, and we will have more Grey Divorces than Gen X. That's so sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 08:07 PM
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This is so unlike the Gen X generation, the time of Grease. Back then, it was the girl who went with the guy's group of friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 02:59 AM
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alpha fucks, beta bucks. Very attractive men can sleep around a lot, not controversial... It's men, not women, who do AF/BB. Women are more into serial monogamy. Spinning plates. This is being an asshole. And it takes a lot of time and money. It seems opposite of working on yourself. Actually, one of the more valuable RP concepts to emerge is the concept of the *starter girlfriend": Starter girlfriends: the worrying trend of throwaway partners This is the "missed out" men's counterpart to female…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:20 PM
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Limerence is the only non-narcissist form of romantic self-love. It is imperfect, but it is about self-interested love of your unmet needs, usually those from childhood trauma.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/24 09:12 PM
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The typical "pick me" woman may be more right-wing politically, but there are leftist "pick me" women out there. It's harder to spot them, but one expression is much more solid sympathy for the male loneliness epidemic than from liberal feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 08:10 PM
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Huh? I thought it was women who were asking this, in the manner of an HR person.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:47 PM
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Why hasn't anybody here quipped about dating between older adults resembling job interviews? This is a flat-out interview question!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:39 PM
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For those of us who are limerents: Romantic limerence is real. Romantic love may be a lie. I have never experienced romantic love that is not limerence. My gamble is to pair up with someone for whom the inevitable limerence will inevitably fade, Tennov-style.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 09:21 PM
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Not just that. Decriminalize Rent for Sex arrangements, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 07:38 PM
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This is what separates progressives who are turned off by Sex Negative Fourth Wave Feminism and those who are still on that wagon. With that $30K income disparity example: Both partners should chip in on the housework. However, as an older Millennial, I'd have to put my foot down about the woman being responsible for the bulk of the childcare. She shouldn't work overtime hours, but she should still be the primary childcare provider.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:56 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/puqgak/why_are_pick_me_girls_criticised/ They're called "pick me" women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:32 PM
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I have never been in a relationship before, but I have been in romantic limerence for 30 years now. Preamble I myself have been romantically limerent, or in limerence, since 1994. I've been nominally limerent for an aunt - niece pair for 30 years and counting. I've been seriously limerent for that same aunt - niece pair for at least 22 of those years. This one relationship has united the majority of the years, indeed. I was romantically limerent for my "first love," my first object of limerence,…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 07:20 PM
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Don't forget rent for sex arrangements. That's the newest form of transactional sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:31 PM
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I disagree with this post. I have upvoted it, nonetheless, because this relationship virgin (40M) needs a balanced perspective on whom should I date.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 08:46 PM
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Trauma dumping is the only way I can establish any sort of emotional intimacy, whether romantic or platonic. NTs would call it "brutal honesty" or "emotional abuse." Why is modern dating too judgmental towards trauma dumping these days, especially from those without relationship experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 08:40 PM
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avoidant attachment Which one, specifically? Is it DA, AA, or FA?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:22 PM
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Third Wave Feminists amongst college-educated men would call these people out for the slackers that they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 04:47 PM
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And yes you do for each other but understand your wife may be hot for your beer gut you now have, and lets be real fat shrinks your wanker and doesn't work as well either. Ewww! You've had to deal with older married men who are clinically fat or clinically obese?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 02:09 PM
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No. It's merely on the same level as "duty sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:41 PM
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A lot of men there finally deciding they've had enough feminism Correction: A lot of college-educated men finally deciding they've had enough of feminism and are pushing the idea that feminism itself is toxic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:25 PM
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Sex-Positive Fourth Wave Feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 01:13 PM
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"Living apart together" is the catchphrase.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 08:39 PM
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Doesn't this specific interracial coupling go back to the days of the Roman Empire?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 01:15 PM
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Translation from another poster: So what you're saying, unless I'm mistaken, is: Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:32 PM
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Nope. The intent of my words is to pressure the woman settled on to step up in terms of compassion. Besides, the object of limerence might not be emotionally available.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:21 PM
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You should have been willing to give him a shot... with compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:18 PM
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Exactly!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:17 PM
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Translation from another poster: So what you're saying, unless I'm mistaken, is: Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:17 PM
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Translation from another poster: So what you're saying, unless I'm mistaken, is: Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:16 PM
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Translation from another poster: So what you're saying, unless I'm mistaken, is: Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:16 PM
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Translation from another poster: So what you're saying, unless I'm mistaken, is: Therapists' warning against men who trauma dump has damaged heterosexual relationships for all people. Because male trauma dumping is the only option available for many men who are seeking compassion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:15 PM
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Um, I personally think you reacted the wrong way. That's the point of my original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:08 PM
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There is reason, though, especially if the listener knows what limerence is. It's to encourage the life partner to intensify the compassion, not necessarily the romantic love.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:04 PM
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Because limerence can, in a lot of instances, be an imperfect reaction to unmet needs of childhood. It has little to do with the object of limerence, if anything at all. If the listener knows what limerence is, they would know that this is actually childhood trauma dumping.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:59 AM
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Yes. I edited my post. The man can be trauma dumping on both.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:54 AM
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No, but it can be an imperfect reaction to childhood trauma based on insecure attachment to one's parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 11:52 AM
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A lot of men relate to their objects of limerence (LOs) from a distance, barely getting acquainted with them if at all. The LOs would hardly qualify as an "old flame." An old obsession, instead? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:53 AM
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You can’t be this far into the abyss. I really didn't pay attention to this stuff until I turned 40 last year, and until I started reading about the male loneliness epidemic a few months ago! The latter phenomenon turned my pill purple faster than adding a formula drop! Anyways, I am "life skills behind" by 15 to 20 years, but I am intellectually older by 15 to 20 years. I've missed out on a lot socially and only my limerence has prevented me from missing out on the career front. This isn’t even…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 04:16 AM
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Unfortunately, I have never experienced romantic love that is not limerence. My gamble is to pair up with someone for whom the inevitable limerence will inevitably fade, Tennov-style.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 12:06 AM
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I'm not sure those issues are covered by employer health plans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:29 PM
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Like I said, it's because their specific therapy needs are covered by their employer health insurance plans. Men's specific therapy needs is much more mixed than women's. It's not all about just having a healthy mind for work.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 08:27 PM
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Women tend to seek therapy for a variety of reasons. They are more likely to seek as much insurable therapy (usually pertaining to work) as possible. It looks like women's therapy problems tend to be insurable. This includes s****** ideation. However, men's therapy problems tend to be uninsurable, even something as basic as learning to be vulnerable, unless you're an older ND who requires anger management therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:29 PM
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There are very practical problems with therapy for men: 1) It's not free at point of consumption. 2) Only work-related therapy appears to be insurable. Women don't understand this detail. I doubt that attachment therapy, in particular, is insurable. It's pointless going to therapy in your 30s. Even if you're earning six figures, you still have a spending fork in the road between therapy and socializing, because socializing events aren't free, either. It's pointless going to therapy in your early…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:20 PM
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There are very practical problems with therapy for men: 1) It's not free at point of consumption. 2) Only work-related therapy appears to be insurable. Women don't understand this detail. I doubt that attachment therapy, in particular, is insurable. It's pointless going to therapy in your 30s. Even if you're earning six figures, you still have a spending fork in the road between therapy and socializing, because socializing events aren't free, either. It's pointless going to therapy in your early…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 05:15 PM
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Huh? If anything else, NDs ought to be more sexual than NTs. A lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 04:13 AM
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Victimhood. Reparations. Society didn't treat the older late bloomer men well, so they should pay socializing reparations to their offspring, no matter how autistic they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 03:23 AM
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I would have no problem dating an active sex worker, actually. Walk in the footsteps of the prophet Hosea. But yeah, definitely the sex worker either way over the gangbang s***.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:44 AM
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But when their mate is younger than 30, their risk shoots up to 59 percent. TRP and the manosphere ain't gonna like that stat!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:35 AM
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You’re likely gonna be dead by the time the kid reaches college. That's the biological / evolutionary order of human upbringing, though. Some older father likened himself to a male salmon, reproducing and then dying off right away. He was incorrect. No! The existence of grandparents is the industrial exception to the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:33 AM
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Because, honestly, society deserves to bear the costs of health risks associate with offspring of very late bloomer men. Not being welcoming enough of them in their adulting years is the trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:57 PM
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Starter Girlfriend Only.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 11:53 PM
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The so-called "feminazi" utopia of society being only 25% male wouldn't work because of: 1) Much more STDs 2) The top women would restrict access to their men There will be infighting amongst the women for sure. At least 20 women won't be happy within the first week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 12:33 PM
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Because my first object of limerence, my "first love," is a Boomer, I am guessing she's a second wave feminist. She explicitly identified as a feminist in more than one interview, but she didn't say which wave.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 03:28 AM
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It's a little bit of Column A and a little bit of Column B: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/183o4az/n_counts_weekly_discussion_thread/kb2fukj/ This male late bloomer needs to have a respectable body count by age 45 because only a few months ago I was one of those 40-year-old you-know-whats. That's Column B. However, I am also aware of some study arguing that men having body counts of over 10 before meeting their wives are correlated with their being way more dissatisfied with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 10:22 PM
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Hopefully my planned sex event tonight will be good. This is a repeat, though, not new for the body count (3).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:03 PM
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The different types of spark are ordinary crush, romantic love, obsessive crush, and limerence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 07:13 PM
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Nice contrast to the OP! This is the reality in South Korea and Japan, not the Gen X fantasy of Make Sex Positivity Great Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:23 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/Millennials/comments/196hrsk/within_ten_years_the_number_of_adults_aged_40_and/ It's the first link there.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:31 AM
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Northern neighbors: That's the case there already.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 08:24 AM
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Looking at pew research polls, around three percent of men older than 45 have never been in a relationship. If we narrow that down to college-educated men (the bluepill says you should go to college) its around two percent. I think it's higher. I question your numbers using the same Pew Research numbers. 5.25% of adults aged 40 and above have never been in a relationship. This is 21% of the 25% of adults aged 40 and above who have "never married" status.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 02:07 AM
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I have argued that late bloomer men are entitled to have sex outside of committed relationships while within committed relationships, up to and including extramarital sex. Unironically. While I'm uncomfortable with cheating (i.e., outright adultery / infidelity), I am of the opinion that late bloomer men are definitely entitled to bully their SOs into accepting one-sided "ethical non-monogamy" arrangements, especially those that are short of open relationships. Unironically. Such bullying should…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 06:27 PM
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None. I kept to myself until last year, trying to improve myself however much I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 05:09 PM
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I am "life skills behind" by 15 to 20 years, but I am intellectually older by 15 to 20 years. I've missed out on a lot socially and only my limerence has prevented me from missing out on the career front. Which is funny, because I really didn't pay attention to this stuff until I turned 40 last year, and until I started reading about the male loneliness epidemic a few months ago! The latter phenomenon turned my pill purple faster than adding a formula drop! Anyways, my n-count / body count is 3 …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 10:34 AM
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Isn't your LO some kind of Hollywood celebrity? LO02 is not a celebrity and has never been one. She hasn't had any artistic career for over a decade now. I respect her privacy a ton, so I'm very careful when it comes to discussing LO01 info. Nothing in my life to date leads me to believe women are overall less committed than men to their relationships. That sounds reasonable. It's just that there are some divorced women who are in the middle of the relationship ladder. They won't go for FWBs, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 02:29 AM
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It's because Gen X was the first and only generation that was "sex-positive." Peak "sex positivity" and even "free love" was Sex and the City. If we Millennials were "sex positive," we would not have had our sex recession. The SSRI "anti-depressant" boom is only lowering sex drives. Gen Z is even more sex-negative. In other words, the "sl*ts" among women, the ones privileged with having a hoe phase, were always a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:07 PM
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While it might be sociopathic and egotistic, it is certainly not psychopathic or even narcissistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 08:02 PM
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The difference between most people who describe themselves as "serial monogamists" and your strange idea of "starter girlfriends" is that most people do not go into a relationship from the outset intending it to fail, it just unfortunately turns out that way. Put another way, I didn't begin dating my first girlfriend by plotting to mistreat her and dump her. Come on! You and I both know that there are serial monogamists on the female side who do have lower expectations when entering into committ…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 07:55 PM
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Isn't this what TRP suggests for late bloomer men to treat single mothers, clinically fat women, clinically obese women, and SSRI addicts ("anti-depressants") as little more than starter girlfriends? How is this different from female serial monogamy? The only difference is that it's the men who are jaded. Should late bloomer men insist hard on "starter girlfriend" status or not? There are fundamental differences between starter girlfriends and FWBs. Starter girlfriends can also provide experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:19 PM
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Is that guy in a long-term committed relationship with that woman or not? The OP's scenario is about the well-off 10% of upper-income women who want to go it alone on mid-life reproduction. Incentivize long-term committed relationships as a prerequisite to any coverage for IVFs. There has to be a designated sperm already from a committed partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 03:15 PM
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Then oppose mid-age IVF treatments. Women should not benefit from mid-age reproductive treatments without men benefitting, as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:15 PM
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The only feminist argument on demographics that I agree with is that a society with more than 50% men really has too many men. The "feminazi" fantasy of 20-25% men won't work because of the spread of STDs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:14 PM
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Remember: The idea is to force mid-career college-educated women into marriage and motherhood. Being against abortion is so off the mark, because this targets younger women and not these women. You and I could oppose public health insurance for, say, IVF treatments for the upper 10% of well-off women. Why should women benefit from mid-age reproductive treatments but not men?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:10 PM
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In South Korea, mid-career college-educated men voted right-wing to "own" / punish mid-career college-educated women. They voted explicitly on the basis of anti-feminism. Also, mid-career college-educated men who go into management apply their jaded attitudes on women towards their management styles. There are ways to bully women in a non-sexual manner. They are the Ebenezer Scrooge to women's Bob Cratchit. The problem, in my opinion, is that they really have not figured out yet how to really "o…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 05:22 PM
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Gen X men had the good fortune of being "slackers" when it came to childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 07:08 AM
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Why not simply go back to Third Wave feminism? Third wave feminism, adjusted for transphobic ideas, was more than enough sexual equality. Men were still expected to outearn their spouses and put in the educational efforts to do so, but they were not expected to lead. Housework became negotiable. In exchange, women were still responsible for the bulk of childcare, even if they work full time. Lower-income women with kids shouldn't be working more than 40 hours per week. That's the Gen X way. For …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:29 PM
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There is no leverage that can be used against men to keep them in line in the modern age. The male loneliness epidemic is an indirect form of sex-negative fourth-wave feminist leverage, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 11:26 PM
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South Korea has a preview of what happens when the dating market screws over mid-career college-educated men, whether "STEMcels" or other "braincels." Unlike impulsive mass shooter malcontents, they can make feminism itself a dirty word across society.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 09:49 PM
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Not all instances of extramarital sex constitute cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 04:20 PM
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The more late bloomers in society (and we are growing), the more the answer is No. I am of the opinion that late bloomer men are definitely entitled to bully their SOs into accepting one-sided "ethical non-monogamy" arrangements, especially those that are short of open relationships. While I'm uncomfortable with cheating (i.e., outright adultery / infidelity), I have argued that late bloomer men are entitled to have sex outside of committed relationships while within committed relationships, up …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 03:46 AM
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Sure!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 06:45 AM
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Oh, I was not referring to those college-educated women and college-educated men who are married during their 30s. The "motherhood penalty" is too obvious already. I was referring to the never-marrieds in both sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:09 PM
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I certainly don't, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 05:07 PM
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(Not worthy of its own thread) A dating age gap between older men and younger women is justified, but not for the neural reasons usually stated. College-educated women in their 20s outearn college-educated men in their 20s. The former can resort to transactional sex to pay off student debts and build savings. The latter cannot. The former can become sugar babies, escorts, and other kinds of sex workers. The former can also accept "rent for sex" arrangements. Transactional sex tends to pay a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:52 PM
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It's because Gen X was the first and only generation that was "sex-positive." Peak "sex positivity" and even "free love" was Sex and the City. If we Millennials were "sex positive," we would not have had our sex recession. The SSRI "anti-depressant" boom is only lowering sex drives. Gen Z is even more sex-negative. In other words, the "sl*ts" among women, the ones privileged with having a hoe phase, were always a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 02:37 AM
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Don't you diss LEGO! That's my favourite toy brand!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 08:36 PM
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21 to 55.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:32 PM
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Because it's very hard for ND women and especially ND men to enter into long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:31 PM
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You know what? I (40M) am about to find out! My body count is 3, but I am still a relationship virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 07:29 PM
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It's because Gen X was the first and only generation that was "sex-positive." Peak "sex positivity" and even "free love" was Sex and the City. If we Millennials were "sex positive," we would not have had our sex recession. The SSRI "anti-depressant" boom is only lowering sex drives. Gen Z is even more sex-negative. In other words, the "sl*ts" among women, the ones privileged with having a hoe phase, were always a minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:06 PM
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Within ten years, the number of adults aged 40 and above who have never been in a relationship will rise to 10%. Back in the days of our parents, this used to be 1% or maybe 2% tops. Today? A record 5.25% of adults aged 40 and above have never been in a relationship. This is 21% of the 25% of adults aged 40 and above who have "never married" status. 25%: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/28/a-record-high-share-of-40-year-olds-in-the-us-have-never-been-married/ 21%: Still, 21% of ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 01:42 AM
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most men seem to fall deeply in love with one women and gets so attached to her, that even after they break up they never seem to move on and not take any women after her seriously because he’s so emotionally attached to that one women despite other women being smarter, prettier, richer etc Confirmed! Just look at the male posters of r/limerence, including myself. The 30th anniversary of my limerence is coming up within the next couple of months, and so is the birthday of my first object of lime…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 09:43 PM
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Part of me would like to see if this romantic stuff will work with an escort / sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 06:13 PM
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Not to mention that the whole "grind now, retirement later" system is fundamentally flawed. It's essentially a scam. Only now young men are waking up. Just because women live longer than men doesn't mean this is a scam.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:33 PM
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Even as someone more sympathetic to Third Wave Feminism, I have no sympathy for men who refuse to attend college. Third Wave Feminist men would call them out for the slackers that they are. Most men are so sedated by porn and video games that they will never rebel, no matter how "alienated" they are. The real problem isn't the non-college-educated men who might be able to go on only one or two shooting sprees. The real problem is the growing ranks of romantically alienated college-educated men, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:30 PM
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r count: How many people have you entered into a committed relationship with n count: How many sex partners have you had
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:20 PM
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When I met my now husband, I made it clear we would not have a kid or live together until marriage. I did not pack his lunch for work or do his laundry until we were engaged. You're smart! While you and I may have had a testy exchange in my ENM discussion, tying the "living in together" with marriage, not just common-law partnership, really prevents the starter girlfriend scenario.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:31 AM
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Unlike the TRP gang, I am willing to discard the biological jealousy argument. There are career trade offs with that kind of financial support, much more than what you stated: Dating, investments, homeownership, and financial priorities
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 03:17 AM
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Um, no. In terms of looks, lots of men have reasonable standards. Is it really too much for me to look for someone who isn't clinically fat, clinically obese, or clinically ravaged from smoking problems? There's a difference between that and not going for women who are just clinically overweight.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 12:10 AM
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You should probably say "r count" instead of "n count," if you're referring to LTR experience instead of sex partners. To answer your question: Head on over to the DO40 subreddit itself. Older women with an r count of one would be OK with an older relationship virgin like myself. I'm not so sure about an r count of two. The higher the r count, the more I see posts there about "I don't want to have to teach him how to be in an LTR" or "I don't want to be his starter girlfriend."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 09:02 PM
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You lost me. Most men, if being honest, would be OK with living in with their SOs. The problem with FWBs is that they don't providing the "living in" experience required by so many women. This isn't about fallacies about less competition with other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:36 PM
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This isn't about sex per se. What I wrote was about people with LTR experience vs. people without. TRP suggests going for younger women. Unless older women become much more accommodating towards relationship virgins, TRP has a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:33 PM
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Yes, we do! AF/BB is shitty TRP and manosphere projection onto women. We are the AF/BB gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:53 PM
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Isn't this what TRP suggests for late bloomer men to treat single mothers, clinically fat women, clinically obese women, and SSRI addicts ("anti-depressants") as little more than starter girlfriends? How is this different from female serial monogamy? The only difference is that it's the men who are jaded. Should late bloomer men insist hard on "starter girlfriend" status or not? There are fundamental differences between starter girlfriends and FWBs. Starter girlfriends can also provide experienc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 07:50 PM
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Most of the time it's women at fault for dead bedrooms, simply because their libido has significantly diminished. There are men, however, whose diminished libidos cause dead bedrooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 03:29 PM
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You forgot fearful avoidants.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:57 AM
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I’ve read many men who have said sugaring is cheap compared to a divorce. Sugaring is only cheap if one can viably become a sugar daddy, or even a cheaper "Splenda Daddy," without using that racket of a "sugar dating app." Paying a high monthly subscription fee? Like really?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:51 PM
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Most of these relationship types (from what I've seen) usually follow a AF/BB style where the BB guy is the "home" figure who's extremely caring, soft and boring = stability while the others are usually more attractive, more adventurous, have money but aren't suitable for 24/7 connection. You forgot the possibility of other three-person relationships under one roof: FMF where M1 is the main breadwinner and F1 is the second breadwinner FMF where F1 is the main breadwinner and M1 is a "beta," but …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 09:26 PM
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In order to fundamentally address the male loneliness epidemic, the dating pool needs to have way more women with a "nurse complex," not less. They are the opposite of those women chasing the top 10% or 20% of men. In addition, these women should not be smokers, clinically obese, clinically fat, single mothers, or hooked onto SSRI "anti-depressants."
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 08:22 PM
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If someone spends so much time dating and getting hurt, it should be no surprise as to why they decide to be single, or have commitment issues, which can end up hurting someone else. I understand and empathize with why more older women choose to be single. I understand that study stating that never-married single women are #2 on the happiness scale, next only to married men. What I think we’re also seeing is a cycle of hurt people hurting others. I also understand and empathize with late bloomer…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:29 PM
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I have to agree here. Dropping out of college education would be seen as an affront to Third Wave Feminist men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:36 PM
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Thanks for that invaluable advice!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:27 PM
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That's client slang for any woman who isn't a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:03 PM
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1) Are you including mind-blowing sex with high-end escorts? At this point, that's the only form of casual sex I'm comfortable with. Escorts vs. Civilian hookups: Should I keep rejecting civilian hookups? 2) Are you including transactional sex in general? If I were to approach a single "civilian" woman and propose to her straight up to f*** her for good money, that is just as transactional as f****** a prostitute or having a sugar baby. What OnlyFans has done is popularize this particular avenue…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:53 PM
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Personally, I am getting to the point where I would be OK with my SO being an active high-end escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:46 PM
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Personally, I would. That just depends on one's actual desire to have biological children (very hesitant due to wise words from my mother) and on one's views on abortion (pro-choice all the way to partial childbirth).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:36 PM
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I'm not a young lad, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:07 AM
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While a good number of men moved into management, women did not. There was no s***lib girlboss tokenism back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 01:01 AM
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College-educated men outearned college-educated women by much more than $10K, even back then. For college-educated men who married non-college-educated women, the gap was much larger. Back then, the ranks of "STEMcels" were miniscule. Most of them were able to marry one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:55 AM
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Third wave feminism, adjusted for transphobic ideas, was more than enough sexual equality. Men were still expected to outearn their spouses and put in the educational efforts to do so, but they were not expected to lead. Housework became negotiable. In exchange, women were still responsible for the bulk of childcare, even if they work full time. Lower-income women with kids shouldn't be working more than 40 hours per week. That's the Gen X way. For those on the left, that's also the ex-Eastern B…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:36 AM
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TRP s*** has always projected AF/BB onto women, when it's the men who are the AF/BB doers.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:24 AM
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As much as I would love to go again to the youthful nightclub and make a move on a college-educated young chick or two, I've got other commitments tomorrow that will push this to sometime next month.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:41 PM
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DE-GE-NE-RA-CY.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:31 PM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/everymanshouldknow/comments/29hbtj/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:13 PM
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And there are leftist redpillers in addition to liberal ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:55 PM
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There's a major trend of young blue and lower end white collar religious conversion amongst people on the spectrum i.e a demographic with 80+ % singlehood rates Care to elaborate on this ND surprise?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:54 PM
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It's funny, because I always thought the original TRP was much closer to trad cons than to what degeneracy passes today as TRP: Verbally abusing women is OK Manipulating your girlfriend or wife is OK Cheating is always OK if your girlfriend or wife has low libido The original TRP didn't know about starter girlfriends, much less spinning plates.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:03 PM
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I didn't say cheating, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 01:32 PM
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Modern late bloomers missed out on the Gen X sex positivity, the stuff denounced as "fornication and sexual immorality" by organized religion. Where's my Sex And The City?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:57 PM
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With limerence you mean infatuation? Nope. An infatuation is merely an ordinary crush. Limerence, the stuff of the r/limerence subreddit, is two levels past that. Every limerence is an obsessive crush. Not every obsessive crush is limerence. No one with a healthy mind cares if you were infatuated with other people before you get into a serious relationship. Yeah, but the general expectation is for such infatuation to go away as the relationship develops. Maintaing actual limerence for the object…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 05:17 AM
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I've missed out on a lot socially and only that my limerence has prevented me from missing out on the career front. Which is funny, because I really didn't pay attention to this stuff until I turned 40, and until I started reading about the male loneliness epidemic a few months ago! The latter phenomenon turned my pill purple faster than adding a formula drop!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:26 AM
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It is a bit strange to want to bully your SO anyway, do not go into a relationship if you feel like bullying that person. That is not useful for a healthy relationship, not at all, that will be toxic because: she will either bully you back, i do not have to explain why that leads to toxicity she will get sad and probably depressed or even traumatized. she just leaves you to find someone who doesn't bully or cheats, or she will demand to also have boyfriends on the side, which would make sense Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 04:20 AM
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What are “late bloomer men” exactly, Aged 35-45 men who have not had sex before or have not had a romantic partner before. why are they “definitely entitled" Missing out earlier and further fear of missing out (FOMO) whatever is left. When you say “more proactive in promoting,” what does that mean? Women pairing up with late bloomers should be responsible for anticipating the three scenarios in the OP and suggesting them to their men, so that those men don't have to bully them later on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:13 AM
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If the terms "entitle" and "bully" are in the description of the arrangement, your non-monogamy is not ethical. That's the dark truth of the majority of ENM arrangements short of "open relationships."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:09 AM
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You know what? I actually agree with you, unironically, especially if the man has much lower libido!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 12:07 AM
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how did you get this way? Like, what happened in your life to make you dislike women so much? I don't get it. This whole PP sub has devolved into hating women. Maybe take a look at yourselves if you're attracting crappy women. My social life during high school was almost non-existent because of other people, especially during Grades 8 to 10: https://old.reddit.com/r/limerence/comments/14d1vty/does_anybody_think_that_their_limerence_for_their/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:59 PM
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Then late bloomer men are more than justified in lying and manipulating if necessary. I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 10:54 PM
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Personally? Not necessarily. I just think late bloomer men are entitled to have sex outside of committed relationships while within committed relationships, up to and including extramarital sex. That's why I mentioned "ENM." Late bloomer men are definitely entitled to bully their SOs into accepting one-sided ENM arrangements.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 08:20 PM
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On the other extreme: let's hypothetically assume for a moment you're my older girlfriend who owns a home. Where I, a renter under a commercial landlord, live right now, it's cheaper for me to pay 100% of the rent than to pay 100% of the rent for a new place if our relationship fails. You move in to my place and rent out your condo / house, and I can still pay 100% of the rent. That's the current state of the real estate market of where I live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 07:25 PM
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you can't move back into your place if you are renting it out Of course you can! Non-commercial landlords have way more flexibility when it comes to kicking out tenants, for any reason. Why do you think renters have a preference for living in places owned by commercial landlords? EDIT: Let's hypothetically assume for a moment you're my girlfriend. Where I, a renter under a commercial landlord, live right now, it's cheaper for me to pay 100% of the rent than to pay 100% of the rent for a new plac…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 06:49 PM
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what about her? If she's a younger woman, then she at least gets to move back to her parents' place. If she's already a homeowner, then she at least gets to move back to her condo or house.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:29 PM
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Um, there are fundamental differences between starter girlfriends and FWBs. Starter girlfriends can also provide experience with living together. Lots of older women are OK with the latter but not the former. Lots of younger women are OK with the former but not the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:21 PM
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Why not, though? There are fundamental differences between starter girlfriends and FWBs. Lots of older women are OK with the latter but not the former. Lots of younger women are OK with the former but not the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:19 PM
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Nah, it's the male version of serial monogamy. TRP s*** has always projected AF/BB onto women, when it's the men who are the AF/BB doers. It's just that we late bloomers now have to decide between AF/BB (escorts and hookup culture) and "starter girlfriend" attitudes towards single mothers and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:53 PM
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Fall hard. Cheat later. (Or bully the SO into accepting a one-sided ENM arrangement.)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 01:13 PM
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You would be very surprised at what some women say on the matter. When an older woman with more one divorce openly proclaims herself to be a serial monogamist, it means she will move on and dump you once you're no longer useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:26 PM
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Then that leaves me with clinically fat women, clinically obese women, and SSRI addicts ("anti-depressants"). Why not chase younger women, instead? I still look like a college guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:48 AM
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How is this different from female serial monogamy? The only difference is that it's the men who are jaded.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:46 AM
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Too many single mothers in OLD have the status "Have and don't want more." Not enough single mothers in OLD have the status "Have and want more." That has been my blunt observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:34 AM
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This isn't about escorts. My body count is already 3, and earlier this week I had mind-blowing sex with my third escort.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:24 AM
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Isn't this what TRP suggests for late bloomer men to treat single mothers, as little more than starter girlfriends?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 11:02 AM
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so a lot of men want the traditional wife who used to do 90% of the housework & child raising but still expect (need) her to work for money. That’s no longer a “traditional” marriage That's semi-"traditional" enough. That's the Gen X way. That's also the ex-Eastern Bloc way. Maybe not the housework, but definitely the childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 03:01 AM
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Um, no. One is not my aunt. The other is not my niece.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:35 AM
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I am not in such a relationship. I barely know the aunt - niece pair of my limerence. 1) Man enters into relationship with aunt figure who isn't his aunt. 2) Man tires of relationship with aunt figure. 3) Aunt figure nudges man to set his eyes on her grown-up niece to save face.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:23 AM
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Just as long as it doesn't involve your aunt or your niece.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:05 AM
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Don't Ask, Don't Tell seems to be the most divisive one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 02:32 AM
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I've read enough body count threads to conclude that lying on this subject matter is a fine art in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 08:21 PM
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Yes. As of last night, my body count is now 3. I had mind-blowing "stripper sex" with a third sex partner last night. This escort has the best demeanor to date! Two of the three sex partners I've had, I met first in typical hookup settings: bars and hotel restaurants. The "social" appointments can easily be spun as hookup dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/24 12:17 PM
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Like individual women, individual men can decide what counts as "body count." My body count is 2 so far, so I do have to count escorts. I would not count massage parlor visits, though. If someone's count for escorts is in the dozens, then he might want to count only the ATFs and maybe the other regulars. What if his civilian hookup count is very low, for instance?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 09:59 PM
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I had a heart-to-heart chat with an escort on this, because she doesn't want children and the expenses of raising children. DINK > Single / Bachelor > Coupled / Married with children
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:49 AM
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Finances: I own my own car, have my own apartment (for rent), and have no student debt. This year marks the first to hit six figures. I personally don't consider that well-established enough, because I didn't get the chance to become a homeowner, and because I still have an MBA to pursue. I look much younger, anywhere from 10 years to 20 years. In addition to not smoking or drinking, it actually helps to have no beard and no balding hairline. I stay indoors most of the time, but this explains th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 10:45 PM
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Leaving aside feminist howls about sex trafficking, regular reliance on escorts presents other problems: 1) Transactional mindset about sex seeping in 2) Potentially unrealistic expectations of sex, because escort sex really is better and safer than "civilian" hookups 3) Increased likelihood of cheating once in a committed relationship 4) Increased likelihood of bullying one's spouse or SO into "ethical non-monogamy" situations involving escorts
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 08:12 PM
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They can smell all the female pheromones on you and you’ll act like a totally different cocky person. Will the female pheromones of high-end escorts stick around, then? MUST. FUCK. MORE. ESCORTS.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 07:50 PM
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That's harder, because I have been in romantic limerence for almost 30 years, since 1994 - hence my username.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:11 PM
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That's what my first sex partner, my first escort, told me in late October of last year. I am trying. [The porn consumption is definitely way down.]
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:07 PM
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Huh? I experience the opposite of PNC. Once I nut, and especially for the next twelve hours, I'm more likely to forget something!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 04:03 PM
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How can we take guys who are inclined towards equality, altruism, and cooperation and turn them into bad boys/playful assholes? I (40M) am trying to undergo this personal transformation right now. The alternative is to become a left-wing mirror image of Ebenezer Scrooge, because toxic managers exist regardless of politics. I'm also unapologetically gunning for younger women as young as 21 (while being open to dating older women). My looks justify this move!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:12 PM
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She can be desperate enough to move to another country, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:46 PM
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So? The point is to be in a position where the well-off foreigner can't dictate separate finances.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:42 AM
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ND men can relate more easily to older women and younger women, especially those with ASD. We are "life skills behind" by 15 to 20 years, but we are intellectually older by 15 to 20 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 03:11 AM
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I'm sure Millennial men are OK with liking women (for basic interpersonal relations) who are one or two or three generations older: Silents, Boomers, and Gen X. I'm sure Millennial men are OK with liking Gen Z women, too. It's the women of the same micro-generation and even the same generation that are the problem. Already, I myself struggle not to write off all the women of my micro-generation, the Xennials (1977-1983), who are not objects of limerence LO02 or (ex-LO) LO03.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 02:44 AM
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Men will be deported for seeing escorts to the chagrin of their foreigner wives?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:17 AM
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It's the latter. If men want the safest sex from sex workers, then they have to spend big for the "girlfriend experience." [I am experiencing this now myself with the rates being charged for my third escort.]
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/24 12:03 AM
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I was referring to hardcore sex workers (i.e., escorts), not OF which merely replaces strip clubs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 11:34 PM
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Nesting and security is more important to women than men, it doesn't surprise me that women spend their money on homes while men spend on other things (alcohol, tobacco and firearms are some favorites: https://financebuzz.com/male-vs-female-spending-statistics) I'm surprised increasing male spending on sex workers isn't discussed there. Alcohol and tobacco are Boomer indulgences. Opioids are Gen X indulgences.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 07:40 PM
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That used to be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 06:24 PM
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WTF? How do they define "normal men"? Normal men who don't use escorts? What about single men who do use them?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 03:39 AM
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This is double true for those of us who are in long-term romantic limerence for people who are not our SOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 02:28 AM
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Basically the avg men want things to be like it was in the 90s, where women gave them their physical best, shared sexual and worldly experience with them and grow together as people. Research shows, that in the 90s, women often got married by 23/24 years of age. The 90s were the height of sex positivity. Gen X had it real good!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/24 12:10 AM
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You know women own their own homes and have their own income now, right? More single women own homes than single men. Such women tend to be house-rich but cash poor. The single men with professional careers have more earning potential from 35-45. As for me personally, the real conflict with single moms is the potential for pressuring me to prioritize their children at the expense of my MBA pursuit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:59 PM
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Well, to be fair, there is a difference between clinically overweight and clinically fat (and worse). Men should have standards against women being clinically fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:55 PM
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I am a fearful avoidant in my attachment style. I would have to resist the temptation to traumatize my wife with both the Dismissive Avoidant Man's avenue of cheating (high-end escorts) and the Anxious Avoidant Man's avenue of cheating (exit affair with my object of limerence). I would have to resist the temptation to traumatize my wife with threats of such. When you get in a relationship and it checks most of your boxes. Do you maintain the same cynicism or do you try your hardest to be optimis…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 11:40 PM
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I think that caregiving (childcare) is the red line for the vast majority of men, especially those who are NDs. Single men need to earn at least as much as single women in order to pre-negotiate the "Gen X" good old days. Housework (except maybe cooking) might be shared, but the red line is the red line!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:37 PM
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$350 to $400 per hour.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 05:56 PM
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Younger NT women seem to be more aware of and open-minded towards NDs, though. The same can't be said of older NT women, though. They complain when red-pilled ND men finally go on f*** sprees of their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:24 AM
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Been there, done that, actually - three months ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 10:21 AM
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For late bloomers like myself and others on the path to becoming such (35? 40?), it's normal for us to have a wide age parameter. Mine is 21 to 55. 21 is today's equivalent of 30-year-old Boomer men hitting on 18-year-olds back in their day. Remember: Millennials and younger generations smoke much less and drink less, so "looking younger than you really are" is much more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/24 04:03 AM
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Hey! I did put my first sentence in italics for a reason!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 07:22 PM
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According to "manosphere" arguments, autistic men lose their sexual virginity much later, as well as their "relationship virginity" much later, because feminism is biased against neurodivergent men. This is "forcing" such men to go for much younger women to compensate.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:10 AM
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Because more and more children are seen as post-industrial economic liabilities, rather than pre-industrial economic assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 03:52 AM
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The aunt commanded enough of a public profile in the 1990s. That's all I'll say on the matter, out of respect of the niece's privacy. How did I come across my current object of limerence? It was an obituary related to my "first love."
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:59 PM
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In modern psychology, infatuation is merely an ordinary crush. It is not limerence.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 06:21 AM
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You can thank Dr. Tennov. She coined the term. In European countries whose languages haven't yet borrowed this word, their term is obsessive love.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:59 AM
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For the love of ***, I really hope not! In real life, my current object of limerence and I are on a conversational acquaintance level only. We've met only a couple of times, unfortunately. At this stage, she does not need to know all my baggage, especially my past feelings for her aunt! In contrast, my "first love" are I are not even on a conversational acquaintance level. We've never met before. The former object of limerence does not ever need to know all my baggage, especially my current feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 05:54 AM
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The correct term is limerence. Check out the r/limerence subreddit for a concrete example of your argument. About two-thirds of the limerent users there are women. It always staggers me how such women who have endless options end up getting tunnel vision on a particular guy As a regular contributor to that subreddit, I can say that there seems to be a difference between limerents who can sublimate their limerence and those who can't. The latter tend to be prone to regular maladaptive daydreaming…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/23 04:24 AM
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That too.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 11:41 AM
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It's a misleading statement because so many young, attractive women do not get the opportunity to bang "Chads." If they've got smarts and are committed to their studies, they will accumulate student debts that need to be repaid. Then they'll up their n-count via sugar dating arrangements or escorting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:57 AM
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Stop chasing barely legals. 21 is the new "barely out of high school."
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 03:53 AM
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Heck, even a 40-year-old "relationship virgin" man might probably be more compatible with a 22-year-old "relationship virgin" woman. That is, unless there is a 42-year-old "relationship virgin" woman waiting in the wings.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 12:38 AM
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The relationship virgins number was much lower back when the overall number of never-married was just 5%.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:33 PM
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Don't forget adulting and grade inflation! It's a tougher learning curve going from 25 to 35-40 than going from 18 to 35-40 "back in their day." All it takes is one "once in a lifetime" economic plunge. Also, 5.25% of adults aged 40 and above have never been in a relationship. This is 21% of the 25% of adults aged 40 and above who have "never married" status. 25%: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/28/a-record-high-share-of-40-year-olds-in-the-us-have-never-been-married/ 21%: Still,…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:49 PM
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I had great sex with a bi escort recently. She is a Zillennial but rooted in Gen Z. If there is one reason to attempt to enter into an long-term committed relationship with her, it's because of her entry into the nursing profession. The majority of johns are married men, though. The married men should not be destigmatized unless their wives consented to their trysts. "How are we supposed to tackle sexual loneliness?" Destigmatize both the sex workers and the growing ranks of single men using the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 11:11 AM
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The smart women who have high n-counts are the ones who become high-end escorts who commit to a clear career exit plan. They have to pay off the student debt, but they also need enough money for a career change. The dumb women who have high n-counts are the ones who go from one gangbang to the next. The other thread's "large subset of men who are financially stable, emotionally stable, honest, intentional, make the best of their physical appearance (grooming/etc), have interesting hobbies etc th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 03:10 AM
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I remember reading something about orthodox Jews using long written questionnaires as part of the dating process. That is what eHarmony was missing all along!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:44 PM
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I remember reading something about orthodox Jews using long written questionnaires as part of the dating process. That is what eHarmony was missing all along!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 11:40 PM
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Wanna date this relationship virgin, then? (Just kidding.)
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 10:23 PM
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The "financial analyst" in the original post isn't doing IB, but budgeting instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 08:53 PM
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making 80-100K a year Finances: I own my own car, have my own apartment (for rent), and have no student debt. This year marks the first to hit six figures. I don't consider that well-established enough, because I didn't get the chance to become a homeowner. I am two inches shorter and 11 years older. I look ten years younger. In addition to not smoking or drinking, it actually helps to have no beard and no balding hairline. I don't work out regularly, but I do have a body mass that is not clinic…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 05:15 PM
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"Want to buy me a drink?" LOL!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:27 PM
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just having fun with having bunch of guys liking their photos When higher-earning men are bored, it's handy to switch to "international dating" just to have women like their photos. Even if you're not into mail order brides or passport bros, swiping left boosts your Elo score.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:46 PM
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The other explanation of "ethical non-monogamy" favouring the man is his simple desire for threesome sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 12:31 PM
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Opposite sex friendships are perceived as "gay" in college years. Not so much when you're 30 years old or older. Despite my experience deficit, I think it's also about asking even married women this question: "Might you know someone whom I can date?" Remember: Even married couples these days don't have as many couples' or family get-togethers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/23 01:02 AM
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I am much more likely to bully the hypothetical low-libido wife into accepting a one-sided open relationship. Look at the various discussions on "ethical non-monogamy." A good deal of them are based on coercion. That's the one thing the traditional red pill folks (and their current "red pill women" equivalents) got right!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 11:05 PM
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How?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:45 PM
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5.25% of adults aged 40 and above have never been in a relationship. This is 21% of the 25% of adults aged 40 and above who have "never married" status. 25%: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/06/28/a-record-high-share-of-40-year-olds-in-the-us-have-never-been-married/ 21%: Still, 21% of never-married singles age 40 and older say they have never been in a relationship. https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:29 PM
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Yes! I am THE perfect candidate for RP. Not everyone of us needs to be Elliot Rodger. If we really miss out, we can choose to be like Ebenezer Scrooge. Regardless of our political views, both sides of the left-right economic axis can produce toxic managers. So instead of the s-word, affected men get to give the Bob Cratchit toxic management treatment to as many people as possible, doing onto others what has been done onto them. It would be even better if such men had a hand in the mass layoffs o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 10:24 PM
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Poor men can't afford therapy. Nor can a lot of college-educated "never married" late bloomers among men. Why? It's the mix of socializing, dating, escorts, and further education. I would wager than men need to earn at least $150K or $160K annually in 2023 dollars. Then consider meaningful therapy spending - not all of it is insurable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 07:12 PM
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Option 1: High-end escorts. Option 2: Sugar babies. They need to pay off student debt, after all. Above all: Lie! Lie! Lie!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/23 06:17 PM
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While I don't agree with their politics, I do sympathize with the sexual frustration of the mid-career male "STEMCELs" in South Korea, aged 35-45. These relationship virgins (who may or may not have had sex before) out-earn their 4B counterparts. I think it is the latter who need to settle - including "STEMCEL" use of escorts to catch up! So far, we haven't seen the North American political equivalent of the mid-career male "STEMCELs" (not just in STEM, but in other higher-paying male-dominated …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 10:10 PM
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Thanks! I think I'll have fun with her only during the second half of the year, though. "Escort Budget."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:51 PM
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To increase my body count to 3, I have chosen the third escort!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 11:10 PM
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Just make sure the crazy machine doesn't kill the folks either while having sex or after the deed is done!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:48 PM
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eHarmony didn't take off because the technology wasn't complex enough. What was missing from that platform (where I got my lone date until a decade later - only recently) was the hashtag technology of the modern swiping apps. Also, it didn't de-emphasize pictures, and thus was prone to bot abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 08:42 PM
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No private entity has the incentive to form such an app because the purpose of the app would not be to keep subscribers "hooked" onto the platform.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:48 PM
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This would be more akin to the old eHarmony system and less akin to modern "swipe" culture. I'd probably add one more feature: The platform should force users to read bios before coming across pictures.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:42 PM
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Some sort of publicly funded matchmaking system should suffice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 06:17 PM
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what users do you ship with each other ? Bring out the chocolates, folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 03:21 AM
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Last night, I went to a Greek restaurant. A server there thought I was still in college! It actually helps to have no beard and no balding hairline. So-called "creeps" ought to be normalized, as long as they look young enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:54 PM
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Um, no. The tendency of older men who "missed out" is to enter the dating market for hookups or FWBs first - when we're not f***** escorts or sugar babies. We are not "withdrawn" from the dating market. I am flexible enough to seek long-term relationships, but that's a parallel lane to the Catch Up Lane.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:46 PM
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In the New Year, this elder Millennial intends to approach one particular young woman. She is yet another lookalike of my object of limerence. Ever since going to a board games get-together, I have come across two lookalikes already. That brings the overall lookalike count up to 5. She is a Gen Z barista / server for the cafe. Ironically, my limerence is giving me confidence regarding her, confidence on asking her out despite the age gap. "Shoot my shot" because I can actually get a hold of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:40 PM
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So? For late bloomers like myself and others on the path to becoming such (35? 40?), it's normal for us to have a wide age parameter. Mine is 21 to 55. 21 is today's equivalent of 30-year-old Boomer men hitting on 18-year-olds back in their day. Remember: Millennials and younger generations smoke much less and drink less, so "looking younger than you really are" is much more common.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 05:38 PM
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Older, childless, single women. Those who deliberately withdraw from the dating market are responsible, alongside sex-negative elements of fourth-wave feminism, for the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 04:01 PM
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For living in the same house, I would think that the woman might be the primary breadwinner. Still, there might be the first man who might not earn as much but who would not want to be responsible for child care. The other man would be the stay at home dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 01:33 PM
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That's why I'm a regular poster on the r/limerence subreddit. ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 12:54 PM
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I am not experiencing limerence for this Gen Z barista / server - yet. If you're referring to my current limerent experience, which has been in effect since 2008, then yeah. It's in my own username.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:46 AM
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I fit this checklist, except for the first one. 1)Almost all of them had an entitled mentality, believing that because they studied so hard at challenging fields, like STEM, it means they're superior to other people. Nope. My background is in business. It's close enough. 2)Almost all of them had FOMO issues and believed that cheating is acceptable because they didn't get enough action in their youth. Prior to late October, this elder Millennial was one of those much older virgins. My libido is h…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:16 AM
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In the New Year, this elder Millennial intends to approach one particular young woman. She is yet another lookalike of my object of limerence. Ever since going to a board games get-together, I have come across two lookalikes already. That brings the overall lookalike count up to 5. She is a Gen Z barista / server for the cafe. Ironically, my limerence is giving me confidence regarding her, confidence on asking her out despite the age gap. "Shoot my shot" because I can actually get a hold of her …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 11:05 AM
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Today's RP narcs are against marriage. Probably the original RP might have been advocating this. One-sided open relationships in favour of the man works if that man has a higher libido than the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 02:17 AM
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The manosphere called this "oneitis." Europeans call it "obsessive love." You can thank Dr. Tennov.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 02:21 AM
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Like South Korean male "stemcels"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:42 PM
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A men's rights equivalent of a 'fem-nazi' is just a fucking nazi. Nah. It's just a South Korean male "stemcel" who votes for right-wing parties out of resentment for women in general, not just feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:40 PM
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I moved out in my early 30s, then changed cities altogether in my mid 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 04:53 AM
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This argument applies only to people who don't experience r/limerence. For long-time veterans of limerence such as myself, there are times when I struggle to develop an ordinary crush on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/23 03:54 AM
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Fair enough. I myself had my first opposite-sex platonic friendship only after I turned 30.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:35 PM
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Do board games groups have a higher concentration of neurodivergent people, also? At least I've got the money and "zero debt" nailed down now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:20 PM
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In college, having same-sex platonic friendships could render you as "that gay guy" to younger women. As those women get older, though, even their social circles diminish.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 05:15 PM
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The more weight she loses, the more attention she will get from men. It's not just the attention of those seeking either romance or sex. It's also the attention of those seeking opposite-sex platonic friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 10:53 AM
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For some men this may be a turn off considering massive weight loss can result in loose skin and stretch marks. While other may not care or see it as a strength in character. I'm in the second camp. She is doing her part, however unconsciously, to tackle head-on the male loneliness epidemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/23 02:20 AM
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Yes and no. The 5.25% includes failed dates that never made it to the committed relationship stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 02:03 AM
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It was much, much lower, though. That's my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:30 AM
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Limerence isn't a bad thing. For men, it should give them the argument that "I love you, but I never fell in love with you" when settling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/23 12:25 AM
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Men: I would say the whole idea of AF / BB. I read a post here arguing that it is the majority of men who do AF / BB, not the majority of women. Female serial monogamy isn't the same thing. Women: I would say too many relationship virgins and other late bloomers on the male side (35 to 45+). The harsher dating conditions for men forces more late bloomers.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 06:54 PM
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Serial monogamy is not concidered cheating. But monkey-branching is! My mind just had a major falling out regarding my "first love," my first object of limerence (LO), over this issue. (But the majority of serial monogamists don't monkey-branch.)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 05:43 PM
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My own libido is high. However, my n-count is only 2. The reason is that it has been elevated by my own limerence since 2008.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:27 PM
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That depends. The r/limerence subreddit introduced me to asexual people. I might be able to pair up with an asexual person, provided she accepts my need for a "responsible escort budget." [I certainly don't envision that to be a weekly thing!] I'm OK with pairing up with a woman past menopause, too, again provided that same condition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 02:17 PM
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Who said anything about reproduction at this point? At this point, it's all about settling for a committed relationship in order to avoid loneliness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:42 AM
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The problem is that this number used to be much, much smaller.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/23 04:40 AM
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This would work only in terms of polyamorous economics, specifically MFF, MFM, and MFMF. So far, this has yet to seep from the world of renters into the world of homeowners. For the latter, it's all about getting a package maid / babysitter. There is also an increase in group homeownership by two couples. Residential affordability north of the border is insane. Maybe this will be encouraged?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/23 04:07 PM
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No. That's the price society must pay for encouraging people to stay healthy until at least 40. Late bloomers like me can then have a real shot, "creep" boundaries be damned! There are those of us who feel 15 years older intellectually and 15 years younger socially.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:13 PM
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For those of us who are limerent, we don't want the perfect Bimbo. We might want customized renditions of our objects of limerence (LOs).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:09 PM
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It's straight out of Dr. Tennov's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:07 PM
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so the woman you pay to have sex with told you you look younger? And so have numerous coworkers. I forgot to mention that. I have slotted into a social group primarily for people in their mid-20s. Nobody has batted an eye.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 12:03 PM
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My first escort told me that I look surprisingly young, that I look like a 30-year-old. now you're telling me men reach their peak desirability in their 40s ...wtf Most of us don't smoke these days. Most of us drink less, if at all, these days. Even without exercising, surely you can't tell me that a 40-year-old Millennial doesn't look like a 30-year-old Boomer.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 11:49 AM
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Climb the corporate ladder and accept a workaholic life. So instead of the s-word, affected men get to give the Bob Cratchit toxic management treatment to as many people as possible, doing onto others what has been done onto them. It would be even better if such men had a hand in the mass layoffs of strangers in their own companies. Affecting other people's livelihoods negatively becomes "value added." "Another word from you..."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 04:15 AM
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Two dates. Two rejections. It's marginally better than, say, ten years ago - my very first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:58 AM
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start hitting your 30s alone and inexperienced Should be 40s, not 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/23 01:42 AM
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I had great sex with a bi escort recently. The majority of johns are married men, though. The married men should not be destigmatized unless their wives consented to their trysts. "How are we supposed to tackle sexual loneliness?" Destigmatize both the sex workers and the growing ranks of single men using them. I suspect we'll see more committed relationships coming from this "Hosea" route in the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 08:55 PM
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When sex workers try to get normal jobs, they have to hide their past sex work or risk bringing "organizational disrepute" to either their employer or professional body. Look at those escorts trying to become nurses.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 03:14 PM
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So then it’s on men to catch up and to develop those qualities. Sex-segregated schools might be the answer. Boys can thrive academically, but only if they are instilled traditional discipline like in east Asian cultures. The problem is that such traditional discipline is horrible way for girls to thrive academically. That's before cries of "toxic masculinity" are hurled at traditional discipline.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:48 PM
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There will be a backlash to the prolonged adulting process for both sexes. Age 25 is not reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:41 PM
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No. By de-stigmatizing sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:39 PM
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Military husband dying from wife poisoning him slowly over the years if less attention grappling Why would the wife be a femcel?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 02:24 PM
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You forgot doing the laundry. Who does that? In a relationship with no kids, I think the big stressor is cooking. Men can step up to do almost everything else a woman does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:57 PM
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My n-count is only 2, but only a few months ago I was one of those 40-year-old you-know-whats. So it looks like I should get at least two new hookups per year, whether escorts or "civilians."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 01:48 PM
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LOL! I have yet to date a blatant gold digger!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 03:39 AM
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Unlike younger women, older women tend to push for a committed relationship ASAP. I just don't know exactly how many dates this takes. Three months? Yeah, you'd be in the minority there. Who moves in together before a year of serious dating? I am still a relationship virgin. I thought women would prefer having no sex for at least a year. I have a lot to learn, especially with regards to escalating, so please do correct me!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:54 PM
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Even though my n-count is 2, I'm not sure what is appropriate for me. I don't feel comfortable with the three-date rule (too short), but I do understand why older women would want this. Is sex upon moving in too late nowadays?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 12:46 PM
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Career/Finances - Yet another filtering is done for those with a career, ambition, or goals. Thus the finished product financially is required. The actual amount may depend on your location, but the underlying theme is still present. With all these common criteria I read here, are people even open to dating someone with potential anymore who isn't a finished product? Isn't this the biggest argument in favour of age-gap relationships involving older men? Not every age-gap relationship is justifia…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:21 AM
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Um, I don't consider her move predatory at all. I did not intend to use "targeting" in a predatory sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:47 PM
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I don't give a rat's a** about my very first date 10 or so years ago. Still, I can be obsessive enough to scapegoat her, if need be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:19 PM
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I had a short dating period with a single mother recently. She was the one who initiated contact on OLD. I actually like her personality, and didn't mind her having two children. To top it off, her personality reminds me exactly of the close female friend I had, the platonic friend I had during the mid-2010s. [I moved elsewhere and haven't kept in touch with her since, unfortunately.] This single mother had a no-nonsense personality, even though she wasn't college-educated.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 07:15 PM
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That one woman is supposed to personify society-wide struggles with dating on the part of men: a scapegoat.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 05:55 PM
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I wanted to emphasize the situation for college-educated people. 18% isn't a rosy number.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:40 PM
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On matters of single mothers, I would entertain such an idea, if there is no expectation that I am responsible for mentoring, disciplining or financially/emotionally supporting her children. But a lot of single mothers want a father figure role for their children, emotionally and financially. For mid-career men who are targeted by single mothers, spell the basic economics out to them: your kids or my MBA / further career development?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:37 PM
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https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/186osdp/we_should_judge_men_for_their_past/
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:33 PM
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The other poster was prejudiced against older men without experience in long-term relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 03:03 PM
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"Dating" is not the same as "relationship."
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:59 PM
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Just less than two months ago, I was part of those ranks. Literally. A couple of high-end escorts helped along with the "adulting" process. One study stated than more than 10 sex partners would lead to higher dissatisfaction in a marriage. Should it be lower, or higher?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:56 PM
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Why? Younger women with high SMVs cheat all the time, and so do older men with higher libidos than their SOs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:10 PM
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I want to have a "weird obsession" with young women who have just graduated from college, perhaps in order to develop relationship experience. Is that bad?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:55 PM
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Whether any of us like it or not, 40-year-old male virgins are becoming more common. The bottom line is this: What is an acceptable N-Count / body count for male late bloomers by age 45? Sincerely, A man with an n-count of 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 01:46 PM
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Why? The AI depictions of "anatomically perfect" women do not factor in that a lot of men don't want what's on offer. For those of us who are limerent, we don't want the perfect Bimbo. We might want customized renditions of our objects of limerence (LOs).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 02:33 AM
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Parents tend to help daughters more than sons with first-time home purchases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 05:56 PM
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Never-married men aged 40 and above outearn their female counterparts because one sex prioritizes changing jobs, while the other prefers to settle in a house. We're seeing this with more female first-time homebuyers. They tend to be house-rich but cash-poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:10 PM
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This subreddit has its fair share of male late bloomers. It is also seeing a number of discussions on sexual strategy for men in their mid 30s. The bottom line is this: What is an acceptable N-Count / body count for male late bloomers by age 45?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 03:03 AM
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Don't be too witty. I do remember a study finding that men with more than ten sex partners are much more likely to be dissatisfied with their current sex partner and cheat on them. For us very late bloomers, is that 10 n-count really reasonable or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:15 AM
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Neither forms of casual sex can substitute for LTRs. Still, escort sex is of much higher quality than "civilian" hookups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 02:13 AM
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I did have a close female friend, a platonic friend, during the mid-2010s. I moved elsewhere and haven't kept in touch with her since, unfortunately.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/23 12:22 AM
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talk to a therapist of psychiatrist I'm not going to allow my "precious" sex drive to be inhibited prematurely by SSRIs!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 11:24 PM
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u/Eastern-Action1384 u/No_Connection5438 18% of college-educated adults have never been married by the age of 40. This used to be a much smaller number decades ago, well before the male loneliness epidemic. This year, I, an elder Millennial male, have joined the ranks, despite my relatively stable career and aims to changing jobs and pursue an MBA, thus making even more money. Even more, I have no experience being in a long-term relationship. I have had only a few dates in the span of a decade, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 09:25 PM
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Amidst the sex recession that's affecting everybody below the hedonistic top 10%, this is the very real dilemma facing both older men and older women who have never been married. Our lot has these issues: 1) Libido mismatch 2) Anger management 3) More prone to abusing others 4) Attachment insecure 5) Miscellaneous mental issues Remember: 18% of college-educated adults aged 40 and above have never been married now. the only reason she is with you is that it's the only way not to live in poverty b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 04:45 PM
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I don't know. Do women have the equivalent of death grip syndrome? The only "benefit" of porn-induced death grip syndrome is the ability to have much longer sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:00 AM
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Fiction. For younger people who focus on building their careers first, those that "stop looking" don't find love.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 08:28 PM
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Since you understand what limerence is, I posted commentary on my first escort experience in the r/limerence subreddit, rather than the r/askanescort or r/escortclientsonly subreddits: No longer a long-time virgin, but the limerence
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:53 PM
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I saw you're an escort. Thanks for your empathy in all this! Sex workers are heroes!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 02:42 PM
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At this point for some people, there can only be limerence. However, it will not be towards immediate dates or immediate SOs. "I love you, but I never fell in love with you."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/23 09:23 AM
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18% of college-educated adults have never been married by the age of 40. This used to be a much smaller number decades ago, well before the male loneliness epidemic. I'm willing to bet that a lot of people in that 18% have no relationship experience, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/23 06:39 AM
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18% of college-educated adults have never been married by the age of 40. This used to be a much smaller number decades ago, well before the male loneliness epidemic. This year, I, an elder Millennial male, have joined the ranks, despite my relatively stable career and aims to changing jobs and pursue an MBA, thus making even more money. Even more, I have no experience being in a long-term relationship. I have had only a few dates in the span of a decade, primarily because of relocation and COVID…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:29 PM
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18% of college-educated adults have never been married by the age of 40. This used to be a much smaller number decades ago, well before the male loneliness epidemic. I'm willing to bet that a lot of people in that 18% have no relationship experience, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 08:27 PM
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This fearful avoidant just chucked aside his v-card very recently. Therefore, I fully intend to compliment my friend-seeking and dating efforts with taking the plunge into the high-end escort world. What should my n-count be by age 45, in five years' time? [I am conflicted on this. Even on the escort front, I do appreciate being very selective with whom I choose to get the "Girlfriend Experience" (GFE) from. The need to be coached sexually is balanced against developing more quality sexual exper…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/23 01:33 AM
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18% of college-educated adults have never been married by the age of 40. This used to be a much smaller number decades ago, well before the male loneliness epidemic. This year, I, an elder Millennial male, have joined the ranks, despite my relatively stable career and aims to changing jobs and pursue an MBA, thus making even more money. Even more, I have no experience being in a long-term relationship. I have had only a few dates in the span of a decade, primarily because of relocation and COVID…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/23 11:56 PM
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Yes, and I am a gynophilic man. I am an elder Millennial. I have no experience being in a long-term relationship. I have had only a few dates in the span of a decade, primarily because of relocation and COVID. Heck, this fearful avoidant just chucked aside his v-card very recently. I am a very late bloomer. I fully intend to compliment my friend-seeking and dating efforts with taking the FOMO plunge into the high-end escort world. Sue me! Ironically, I am able to do this because of my decades-lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/23 01:00 PM
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