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Making eye contact like you're wanting to fuck them and talking slowly makes anything you say flirting. Alternatively, you can be playfully flirty by taking things she says and misunderstanding them as sexual advances and calling her out on them.
/r/seduction17/09/15 06:27 PM
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Really depends on your medium, I live in a large city, so Online dating is a bottomless well for me and I like that; there you can within the first 3-4 messages ask them what they are looking for and state your intentions after them to see if you match up. Personally, i'm not looking for a relationship, but I don't like going through the dance to get to sex just to never see them again either. So I tell them that i'm not looking for a one night stand or a serious relationship, and their mind fil…
/r/seduction03/09/15 09:00 PM
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Eye contact. I find that the most flirty thing you can do is slightly intimidate them. You don't have to worry about coming off as too strong if you step up your kino slowly and look for cues that she's uncomfortable and step back down a bit and wait a bit before starting to escalate again. And remember, creepy is acting awkwardly and sexual. Things aren't awkward when you're comfortable doing them.
/r/seduction21/08/15 07:15 PM
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Yeah, i'd have just leaned around him, smiled at the girl, and asked her, "Is he your boyfriend or your bodyguard?"
/r/seduction16/08/15 09:12 AM
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Been my experience to stay away from girls with low self esteem; They'll either sleep with you for validation and then regret it later, or they'll be prude because they feel the need to validate your interest in a non-sexual manner.
/r/seduction16/08/15 08:11 AM
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Texting never has an opportunity to go stale if you make it about logistics and planning. A couple witty comments, then try to make plans. If you can't arrange something soon, then leave it alone until you can meet up. If you can't, it wasn't meant to be.
/r/seduction16/08/15 01:28 AM
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Drunken bullshit is so common that people usually give you a pass about it. If she didn't seem like she was drooling over the prospect yet, then act like it never happened. If she's still talking to you, she now understands you want to bang her, and she's probably interested in the prospect, if not comfortable yet.
/r/seduction16/08/15 01:25 AM
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Typically if I don't like the frame that a girl is trying to put on me with her compliment, I'll say something like, "Shhh. Don't tell anybody, I've got a reputation to maintain."
/r/seduction15/08/15 06:11 PM
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I tried joke spamming as well. It takes almost no effort, a passively sexual joke works for screening, and gets a banter started right away. Downsides is your reaction rate is like 4-8% instead of 15-20%, and you exhaust a ton of contacts really fast. Works fine for places like Los Angeles or New York, where your supply is nearly unlimited.
/r/seduction14/08/15 10:09 PM
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the really awkward per is that he's going to get a whole bunch of dudes looking at his profile all at once because of your post. Now that's a WTF moment. =P
/r/seduction14/08/15 10:06 PM
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Got the date. quick tips from my experience is: You have all the time in the world to think up a response, so you actually have to be creative. The girls don't give two shits about who you are on a deeper level at this point. Don't try to give them information about yourself. They want you to be playful and to invoke emotions in them. Get the date, escalate, etc.
/r/seduction14/08/15 09:20 PM
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I've also had remarkable success with OKcupid. I find that the best messages are something clever (unlike life, you've got all the time in the world to come up with something witty) that references her profile. For example, I messaged this girl, "Could always make lego castles with blanket ramparts... But we'd need a lot of legos to build it to scale. hmm..." She put a silly remark in her who should message me saying, "If you like Lego Castles or Blanket Forts" and she was an engineer, so I comb…
/r/seduction14/08/15 05:40 PM
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Dressed up = pressure 106F temp = uncomfortable Both are not ideal conditions.
/r/seduction10/08/15 04:02 AM
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That actually could have been the headline on a movie about my early years of dating, "It was a bad choice. She was a bad choice. But she was so beautiful. Coming soon to home video."
/r/seduction10/08/15 04:00 AM
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change your mindset about rejection and yourself. If you think you're a good catch and a girl doesn't believe so, she's obviously too stupid to realize it. pity her and move on. Also realize that 95% of women won't escalate things for you. So these stories you hear of women being flirty and complementary is because the guy took it at least a few steps ahead of that by this point.
/r/seduction09/08/15 06:01 PM
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Basics to playing wingman: after primary opens set, you walk up and join the conversation. your job is to distract everybody so that the primary and his target have some 1on1 time.
/r/seduction09/08/15 07:51 AM
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Next time you're talking to a pretty girl, try to misconstrue something she says. The other day I had a conversation with a girl where she said she was watching anime. Fate/Zero to be exact. She said that this charismatic big bearded burly guy was her favorite. I made the joke that I wanted to be like him when I grew up. She said, "Me Too" (in reference to his personality). I turned that around on her and told her that I wasn't judging and fully supportive of her life decisions. A little more te…
/r/seduction08/08/15 07:52 AM
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He could use to refine his thoughts a bit. It's your intent of being funny. Are you trying to amuse the other person, or amuse yourself? Funny enough, I have a case on point from today. I opened kind of indirectly (shoot me for it), but I saw this funny video from a youtube prankster the other day, and it came to my head when I was in a clothing shop. I saw a pretty girl behind the counter, so I grabbed something random and walked up to her completely deadpan, and asked her, "Excuse me, can I as…
/r/seduction07/08/15 06:50 AM
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I'm a goofy guy too. Learn to own it, and it allows you to make bigger moves. Ever notice that when your silly and the center of attention that a girl will challenge your frame? It proves an opportunity to switch gears and assert dominance. That contrast between harmless fun and heart pounding intensity drives girls wild. As an example, The other day I was making an ass of myself like I always am and this girl looks at me and tells me that I can be so annoying sometimes. I drop my silly smile, g…
/r/seduction04/08/15 06:36 PM
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at 11, Alpha behavior is being into sports (not just participating -- but developing competitive behavior). After the onset of puberty, working out and sports... everything else should fall into place.
/r/seduction03/08/15 07:53 PM
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He's right about it, 'Shit tests' aren't roadblocks for you to overcome. It's their insecurities coming out. Try thinking about them like that and you'll stop 'failing' them.
/r/seduction03/08/15 07:35 AM
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Worked in one customer service job or another for a long time; And i've had tons of flirty conversations with customers. Here's the problem as being a guy at a job: It's an extra level of risk to hit on somebody who's a customer. Guys being expected to be the aggressor, it can go sideways and impact your job. Women, usually being at the receiving end, don't have to worry about that. So, if you're a female and you like somebody who's at their job, you might have to break the status quo and be the…
/r/seduction02/08/15 05:57 PM
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I feel you man. What helped me was a paradigm shift. Thinking about going out to open/get/etc girls created so much anxiety because I was putting the pressure on myself. When I changed my mindset to trying to flip somebody else's reality instead, it took the pressure of me, and put it on them. For Example, I walked into this chinese food place and there was a cute girl at the register. I walked up to order, and instead of ordering from the menu, I asked for a Big Mac and some Chicken Nuggets. Co…
/r/seduction30/07/15 08:56 AM
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First thought off the top of my head would be to say, "that depends on you, not your boyfriend." It doesn't back down, and it's rather ambiguous. The second bit... She did say she'd give it to you. It made it obvious that she was playing with you, and you failed to catch the ball. Something more along the lines of, "It would have to be our little secret then" sends a better message by creating a fake conspiracy between you. Long story short, You did good for going out there, but you should chang…
/r/seduction30/07/15 07:31 AM
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it's getting into the pool. the quick way to get comfortable doing it is to jump in the deep end. Just get the balls together to go up to a girl and litterally say Hi. (wait for them to focus a bit). You're Cute. And then you'll panic, but you've already initiated the conversation, and you'll do just fine. Every bit of advice here is to smooth out getting from This point to in the sack, but no advice is going to help you if you don't at least do that much.
/r/seduction29/07/15 07:56 AM
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Have fun, but take care with this path, it does lead to the dark side.
/r/seduction25/07/15 07:44 PM
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I have a philosophy on small talk. I don't like polite questions. 'How are you?' / 'how's it going?' / 'what's up?' / etc are polite. Polite is indifferent, and you can't connect with somebody that you are indifferent to. If somebody smiles at me, I'll start a conversation with asking them why they are in such a good mood.
/r/seduction25/07/15 04:46 PM
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Not necessarily, but when a girl brings up that she's 'old fashioned' like that, I typically tell her to go make me a sandwich. It's how she reacts that determine if she's just interested in a free meal. For me, however, whenever I invite somebody (male or female) to do something, I pay for them as my guest. It's just how things work in my universe; And often enough, people adopt my way of thinking.
/r/seduction25/07/15 04:42 PM
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I'm always an indifferent asshole, but i'm having fun, so people vibe off that.
/r/seduction25/07/15 09:24 AM
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If you want to close that day, you need to do more than chat. You'll want to change venues a couple times to build shared experiences, and slowly ramp up your kino. I find this very hard, so I don't do it.
/r/seduction25/07/15 07:57 AM
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Been there, done that. During the initial meeting, you want it to be long enough that you can connect somewhat, but short enough that you don't have moments like that. I usually just get to a high point and then get their contact and say a couple more things and be on my way. Once you're on an actual date, you can deal with these lulls by dumping sexual tension on them and seeing if they break.
/r/seduction25/07/15 07:17 AM
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I probby leeched it from somebody, but I pulled a funny one out of my head last week. Was talking to some girl and she looked at me questioningly and said I looked familiar. I said, "really? you too. You look a lot like my girlfriend." And she leaned away a little bit and said something. Which I carried on with, "yeah, but it's not serious yet; we just met." Lucky me she was sharp enough to catch it.
/r/seduction25/07/15 04:13 AM
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I really like that one.
/r/seduction24/07/15 09:17 PM
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Damn time travel, you're me, aren't you? I got into one relationship shortly after highschool, and was in it for 7 years. then was single for 2 more years. And yeah, i've had the same issue. I joke that when I learned to date again, I could always get a date because I was more well adjusted than most. But when the date came, I could even go out and have amazingly fun dates and still never get a second date because I never tried being sexual with them.
/r/seduction24/07/15 07:31 AM
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Learn to meditate. getting good at meditating can help clear your anxious state almost instantly, and then you can just give yourself a quick affirmation. With a little practice, it shouldn't take more than a couple seconds to collect yourself and get into a positive vibe.
/r/seduction24/07/15 07:26 AM
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Everybody is trying to be logical about how to deal with extreme emotion... that isn't helping you. Try something different. Steal from the methodology of a lot of coaches, and do something that isn't goal driven at all to break your fears. I like suggesting one that I got from watching Sasha Daygame: Just go up to somebody and say, "I don't want to be weird, but... Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... And just hold the Uhhh sound indefinitely until they end the interaction." There's no goal, n…
/r/seduction24/07/15 07:24 AM
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You don't pay for sex, you pay them to leave afterwards. - Charlie Sheen.
/r/seduction24/07/15 05:32 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking... I'm a pretty well adjusted sociopath, I wouldn't want to see what a thirsty sociopathic me is like.
/r/seduction24/07/15 05:29 AM
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I don't know if it's just me, or if nobody feels like they need to explain what your brain is like as you learn this. I tried, and the more I learned the less it seemed to work; but I continued to try. And my ego was bruised countless times. At some point there was a breakthrough... or breakdown, whatever you want to call it. I literally thought everything I learned was garbage; this was a pointless effort, etc. But I continued... And with the mindset that I didn't even want what I learned to wo…
/r/seduction23/07/15 08:16 AM
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I never understood that not fapping logic. I feel like i'd turn into some horror movie antagonist if I couldn't fap.
/r/seduction23/07/15 06:25 AM
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Take some social dance classes... If a girl fails to follow in a dance, it's the leader's fault.
/r/seduction22/07/15 07:09 AM
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Don't suggest the date in your initial text. the first part works fine. You readdress how you two know each other. I'd only add that you should try to work in something interesting that you two have in a shared experience from your initial encounter; being playful or teasing with it. Then after you've got some light banter going back and forth, you can drop the We should have coffee some time (I personally like to just drop in an multiple choice starter: "Which do you like more, Coffee or Ice Cr…
/r/seduction21/07/15 07:22 AM
2

So you're afraid of success?
/r/seduction20/07/15 05:08 AM
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All these tactics, theory, etc here are really trying to do is make you think of yourself as a boss and act accordingly. The specifics of any of it is irrelevant; just crutches to give you something to stand on when you don't trust yourself to do what you need to do yet.
/r/seduction19/07/15 05:52 AM
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It's not as big of a win as you think, when you think I messaged probby around 500 girls, got replies from maybe 100. still way above the average.
/r/seduction19/07/15 05:41 AM
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Social calibration, you kinda failed it. However, it doesn't matter, because it seems you had no interest in her as a person; and her vanishing from your life should have no bearing on you. What you did is screen her. It's pretty high risk / high reward. You'll get shot down 99% of the time, but it skips over everything else if all you want to do is get your dick wet. So, if you are interested in treating people like human beings, however, I'll try to break this down. With the limited informatio…
/r/seduction18/07/15 07:31 PM
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Your parents had what it takes to find somebody, so baring some odd mutation, you do too.
/r/seduction18/07/15 02:02 AM
0

I like it being two truths and one lie; makes it more interesting.
/r/seduction17/07/15 06:16 AM
2

If you're used to success feeding your confidence, when you fail to find success, your confidence suffers and starts a downward spiral. Find a way to make your confidence not dependent on your successes.
/r/seduction17/07/15 05:46 AM
3

So you hugged her... and then did nothing else physical until you got back to her place? Now I could be wrong, because I wasn't there to watch this unfold, but it sounds like you were doing everything right except not touching her enough... so she followed all the steps along; was generally feeling it enough for it to happen, until you actually started touching her which she wasn't used to... and that shocked her into getting in her head (girls can do that too).
/r/seduction17/07/15 05:24 AM
2

You should watch Nick Spark's latest talk from the 21 convention. It's been posted like 5 times in the last 2 days here... It's mainly about projecting sexual intent, but he does talk a lot about being congruent with your emotions... mostly working backwards... making your emotions match what is your intended outcome... It works for taking pictures as well. If you're not actually happy when you try to smile for a picture, you'll look awkward.
/r/seduction15/07/15 09:03 PM
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That depends, some guys need to frame the conversation from the start because they have trouble projecting sexual interest and if they didn't proclaim it, the girl could become confused as to what dynamic the conversation should be taking.
/r/seduction15/07/15 08:30 PM
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It's in your head. there is nothing 'wrong' with how you look, but the way you look. Was this a mug shot? Look at any 'attractive' photograph, and ask yourself, "what emotion are they conveying?" ... People project connection when they can identify emotion. If somebody can't figure out what you're feeling by looking at you, it's off-putting.
/r/seduction15/07/15 08:25 PM
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It's ok to be a dickhead, but have fun with it. Somebody asks you how old you are, ask them to guess... things like that; make a game out of answering questions.
/r/seduction15/07/15 05:54 PM
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'in town for the weekend' reads as 'looking for a hookup' to most people.
/r/seduction15/07/15 05:45 PM
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There's nothing wrong with giving a compliment and meaning it. Verbal communication is so little about the approach. I use the extremely vanilla bland opener of, "Hello. <pause, wait for them to focus> I saw you walking by and thought you were kinda cute. <slight pause to digest> And I had to come over and say hi. <Extend hand, shake, and use it as an excuse to close into personal space>" The whole time I feel that i'm controlling the situation and she's dancing to my tune... even when i'm doing…
/r/seduction15/07/15 03:41 AM
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It's fine to ask questions, but change your purpose. You don't want to collect information about them. You want to get them to reveal their character. So if you ask them if they go to school or work, and they say School. Don't just ask them what they study. That's unimportant, even if you can relate. You'd be relating with a statistic about them. Ask something that gets deeper. You could ask if they are a good student. This gets them to reveal a bit about their personality and sets up for potent…
/r/seduction15/07/15 12:43 AM
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I've watched a lot of RSD videos, and I always think that while the have all the underline truths; their style of implementing them is a little harsh; and I'm convinced that people watching their videos trying to emulate them have lead to more than a few slaps or getting banned from places. I prefer the videos by Harley Quinn, Liam McRae, James Marshall, Sasha Daygame, and Johnny Berba. For Eye contact, see pretty much anything by James Marshall. For AA, see Johnny Berba and some of the Later st…
/r/seduction13/07/15 07:49 AM
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If i'm talking to a girl online, i'll often give my number and just tell her to text me to keep the conversation going. If I don't get a message, no big deal. But, I get a text from them more often than not. In person, I'll want to swap numbers. I'll have her put her number into my phone and then ring hers to give her a missed call from me.
/r/seduction13/07/15 07:23 AM
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He didn't die.
/r/seduction13/07/15 02:06 AM
2

depends. If your shoulders round forward, it's a weak pose; you're closing yourself up. If you're chest is out, You might as well wear a cape, cause you're a superhero now; and that's a confident pose. And silly, if you are actually wearing a cape.
/r/seduction13/07/15 02:03 AM
1

Some people can't handle intense eye contact, don't need to push the issue on it.
/r/seduction13/07/15 01:30 AM
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Think of the space between being complete strangers and sharing a kiss as being a big gorge or river or whatever metaphor you want to use. Kino escalation is a bridge. Ask yourself, did you build yourself a bridge or did you try to Evel Knievel across it at the end of the date?
/r/seduction12/07/15 11:26 PM
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People kinda frown on anything NLP-ish, but I have some rather canned lines that I use for certain situations. But Every interaction is going to be unique, you can't really count on anything rehearsed. Even doing so will be off, because unless you're a great actor, it's going to show through. Like, If a girl responds to my playfulness with her own, if applicable, I'll say, "Ohh what am I going to do with you?" which has so many implications that go places in her mind that you want to be. But fro…
/r/seduction12/07/15 07:34 AM
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I love this... toilet plunger. Also, I like to suggest that if you have to ask each other questions, make it into a question game; there are plenty of examples on the internet. And if you need a frame to set up the kiss... When you're both at a high note, and it's your turn, you can make your question, "On a Scale from 1-10, how good of a kisser are you?" If she stays in the frame of your question, any answer sets you up for, "I'm not sure if I believe you." and you've engineered an opening for …
/r/seduction12/07/15 07:21 AM
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There are a variety of different ways to start a conversation, but in any online medium where there are profiles, you can look at theirs; find something you have some experience with; and comment on it. I live in Socal, EVERYBODY here hikes. So a common opening when they put hiking or have hiking pictures, will be to skip Hi and start talking about an awesome trail. I also like when girls put something they think is witty, and use that to comment on. One girl put under who should contact her: If…
/r/seduction11/07/15 07:01 AM
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I've always made confirmation part of the buildup. On the day of the date, I always just send a text, "Confirming we're still on for today?" Then when they say yes, I'll just say, "Good. Looking forward to it." pretty much always get them to return my investment by saying, "Me too." I've never had anybody flake if they respond to the confirmation.
/r/seduction11/07/15 06:53 AM
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Let me say this from just reading your post. You're too critical. Your mental state is reflected on your body. And people are biologically set up to be able to read this. The absolute best thing you can do is work on your vibe. Have fun. Better yet, find a wingman or mentor who just radiates fun positive vibes... they are catchy.
/r/seduction11/07/15 06:48 AM
2

Two bits of wisdom on what confidence really means. Confidence is knowing you can do something, Arrogance is having to tell others that you can. AND Being Confident doesn't mean being pushy.
/r/seduction11/07/15 06:44 AM
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I didn't like Tinder. I do like OKcupid though. My online game is really strong, as I used to pick up girls left and right off Myspace back in the day. There are PROs and CONs to Tinder vs other Online Dating mediums. Pro: Because you can only speak to a mutual match, the girl isn't bombarded with a million messages and yours might get lost in the noise. Con: You can't charm anybody who doesn't mutual match you.
/r/seduction11/07/15 04:50 AM
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And a typical gym has more mirrors than a funhouse, so you constantly have a reference for your body language. And spend enough time working out, you'll start to like the look in the mirror, and that translates better than anything else ever could.
/r/seduction11/07/15 04:45 AM
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There's actually a rift between people who believe in Direct or Indirect pickup. Personally, I don't think there's a problem with indirect, but you really just save yourself a lot of time and effort being direct.
/r/seduction10/07/15 09:13 AM
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I'd say that you can't just look handsome, but look approachable. I know i'm good looking, but if i'm not vibing well, I have resting bitch face. When I'm a grinning idiot, girls throw themselves at me, if I'm not in the mood, people make large circles around me.
/r/seduction06/07/15 06:02 PM
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start small. Go up to girls at kiosks at the mall and say hi. If they are just doing nothing, you can make a quib about how they look bored. Move up to walk by flirting, you see one bored without a smile, tell her, "smile. You'll scare away all the customers." Also make comments to anybody about everything. Just get into the vibe of being social. When you feel like you're warmed up. Just go up to a girl and tell her that she's pretty and move on. Do that a few times and you'll realize that they …
/r/seduction06/07/15 04:24 AM
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Peacocking is so oldschool. What you do should be congruent with who you are. Even if you're shy, if your personality (when it does show through) is over the top, then looking over the top works. If you dress like a rockstar and act like a CEO, you're going to be seen as try-hard. Not saying irony (poking at social norms; in the case of style, dressing in a way that provokes one impression and behaving another) doesn't work either, but that has to be congruent with your personality.
/r/seduction06/07/15 02:10 AM
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Funny as fuck.
/r/seduction05/07/15 08:34 AM
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Edit: replied to wrong thread.
/r/seduction05/07/15 04:47 AM
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If the messages are slow, escalate faster. Acknowledge that the messages are slow as the reason to move to text, but don't make it sound like you're blaming her. Blame the universe, "This medium isn't great for a conversation, how about I give you my number, send me a text, and we'll keep things going."
/r/seduction04/07/15 08:42 PM
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It's always about self improvement. The things you learn about how to convey your intentions and be confident translate well into other aspects of your life as well.
/r/seduction04/07/15 08:02 AM
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I've heard it called the 60/40 rule and the 70/30 rule... but the basic premise is that most of a situation is what's going on in their life, and only a little bit of what you do. If reactions are all over he board with your approach, don't read a pattern that doesn't exist. As for OkC, I've been on it 2 months and gotten dates with something like 30 girls. Your Profile: - Put some good pictures up. Get some professional headshots if you can. - Fill out your bio, don't make it too long, but be p…
/r/seduction04/07/15 01:17 AM
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I had a similar problem when I started. The problem I had was that I wasn't developing kino during the date, but at the end, i'd go for a kiss. Never got rejected, but because I hadn't built them up to being physical, when I made that step, it was a long jump.
/r/seduction02/07/15 05:18 PM
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It just seems to me that it's not where you go, but when you're there. 11pm-1am seems to be the magic time for taking a girl home.
/r/seduction02/07/15 03:17 AM
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did you want to be her boyfriend? otherwise the best reply is, "I don't want to be your boyfriend."
/r/seduction01/07/15 01:32 AM
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It depends on how you feel about it. She could have had a boyfriend and still slept with you. If that notion carries wrong with you, then you did the right thing. If you don't care about how you influence situations outside of your bubble, then you done fucked up. =P
/r/seduction26/06/15 09:44 PM
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ohh, you're in the totally wrong mindset for this. Think about why she agreed to go out with you... were you being funny, did you seem genuine, or aggressive? Have fun first... try a slight escalation every time you make her laugh... but don't let it be your focus.
/r/seduction26/06/15 07:06 AM
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That's fucking amazing... the first approach I did, I literally went up to a girl and said Hi, froze, and walked away.
/r/seduction26/06/15 07:03 AM
3

This happens so often to Therapists that they have training in how to deal with it. Patients often develop 'feelings' for their therapists because of the power relationship. The difficulty here is so high level, I don't even know where to begin discussing it.
/r/seduction25/06/15 10:02 PM
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“Better to have, and not need, than to need, and not have.” - Franz Kafka
/r/seduction25/06/15 07:07 PM
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by detaching yourself from the result. Back in the day, PUAs came up with all sorts of gimmicks to mimic this mindset. they'd act like they were one foot out the door when talking to girls, or they'd let them know they had limited time to talk to them, etc. The underline psychology of it all is that you are having fun and don't care if they want you or not.
/r/seduction25/06/15 07:02 PM
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I don't really care what she is into. And that's where you went wrong. Women are pretty hardwired to want to make connections. If you're goal is sex and not make that connection for her... Not saying you won't get sex, but you won't get it as often. And at the very least, caring about what she cares about; making that connection; You're going to experience a lot less LMR.
/r/seduction25/06/15 05:58 PM
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Can we break a few mindsets that are holding you back? First of all, your goal is self-centered. You're wanting to get laid. Getting Laid is good, but your mind should be on what are you offering. An emotional connection for the girl. Sure, thinking you want to get laid will get you laid some times. Going into it thinking you want to make this woman feel sexy and desired, will get you laid a lot more. Secondly, Nice guy does not equal friendzone. Why you're the nice guy determines where you get …
/r/seduction25/06/15 08:56 AM
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There's no rule on when to have sex at all. and to be honest, if I've learned anything, it's that the more attractive a girl is, the more comfortable she is likely to be with you coming onto her.
/r/seduction25/06/15 06:12 AM
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It's called being in state. It's a tool us introverts use to look like extroverts. Start by thinking about what characteristics that make a personality fun. Run through a couple scenarios in which you could do that under the right circumstance... and right when your in the middle of your fantasy... pick somebody or something interesting and turn to whoever you can and say something about it. If your in the mindset of being fun, your mind is likely to say something that's fun. This works well if …
/r/seduction25/06/15 05:04 AM
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Worst comes to worst, hire a coach. most of them just start you out with meditation to clear your head and some embarrassing exercises to desensitize you. Sasha likes to make his students go up to girls and just say, "I don't want this to sound weird or anything, but uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..." and continue to uhhh until the other person just walks away weirded out. The student realizes that he didn't die and it becomes easier to not give a shit about the outcome. Hayley Quinn (another youtube coach)…
/r/seduction25/06/15 01:38 AM
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check out this video by SashaDaygame. He's basically 'aliens' crazy for a lot of his stuff, but he really knows what he's talking about when it comes to being balls out and going for shit.
/r/seduction25/06/15 01:25 AM
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Seduction community forums are called lairs. they aren't as popular as they used to be... from what i've heard... way before my time... You could introduce yourself, and if you're in a big enough city, somebody around here might be too and then you can find personal help that way (without having to pay for a coach). Or, if you just go to a populated area like a mall or a gym and wait and watch, you'll see some pop up.
/r/seduction25/06/15 01:13 AM
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You could also play it to your advantage. You're thinking you've got X amount of time to escalate things before they vanish. Flip the psychology, they've got only x amount of time before they leave with you. You both got to make the most of it.
/r/seduction25/06/15 01:07 AM
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Forget about getting better with women. You can't do that if that's your goal. It sounds terrible, but that's the truth. Your goal should be to have fun interacting with people. My suggestion to you is find a friend who does this or wants to. You not only have a wingman, but somebody to vibe with and build your state, so when you do interact with girls, you're already having fun.
/r/seduction25/06/15 01:04 AM
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Hahahahahha... I loved the role reversal... "I'm gonna give you a fake number"
/r/seduction25/06/15 12:56 AM
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like somebody already said, you've kinda overreached already. We've all been there, just learn from it. There's a chance you can still salvage this. She obviously likes you, or she wouldn't have replied at all. Just take a step back, make yourself seem more human. You've already shown your hand by saying you don't want anything serious. Why is that? You don't have to go into details, but hinting that you're a human trying to make a connection to another human, but you're a little stuck on commit…
/r/seduction25/06/15 12:44 AM
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cause I'd flirt with a sexy lookiing tree. Who gives a fuck if you don't invest?
/r/seduction25/06/15 12:36 AM
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People aren't so rigid. You're trying to define her. And she's trying to stay outside of whatever box you're trying to put her in. Best bet is to let her define herself to give her some comfort room and once you meet, then you can play around and see what you can get away with.
/r/seduction24/06/15 09:30 PM
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The Red Queen by Matt Ridley is a great book that looks at the Human Mating ritual from a zoological and evolutionary perspective. It's not explicitly specific on body language, but it is very much worth a read if you want to look at human behavior rather than just how to game.
/r/seduction24/06/15 09:15 PM
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Tip #1, slap yourself... really hard. When you get back into a situation that you're seeing her around regularly, treat her like any other girl your flirting with. If you're not flirting with other girls, you've already lost this battle. Flirting is like a muscle, you can't expect to lift heavy weights without working it out. tl;dr. It's fine to really like somebody, but if you're hung on up on them, you're gonna have a bad time.
/r/seduction24/06/15 09:14 PM
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There is no such thing as being too nice. There is, however, as being needy. You can be a very positive giving person, without trying to validate yourself. The problem with the whole nice guy myth is those who perpetrate it follow the logic backwards. They are needy, not confident, and they try to bring their value up to women by what they can do for them. People see through that shit and it's not attractive. But it doesn't mean that if you're generally a nice guy, that you can't be attractive a…
/r/seduction24/06/15 09:10 PM
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rejection doesn't scare you, but you lack the courage... you only need courage for something to scare you. Going by your choice of wording, I think the concept of rejection doesn't scare you; you know on an academic level that you'll survive it. But, in practice, rejection scares you.
/r/seduction24/06/15 07:16 AM
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Unless you're literally on fire, if you pass a girl who makes eye contact with you, assume it's on and go for it.
/r/seduction24/06/15 05:46 AM
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Sounds like an aversion to social awkwardness. You assume you'll be awkward, so you awkwardly avoid the situation and then recognize that awkwardness to reinforce that mindset. Sometimes you need to set yourself into a flirty groove. Just force yourself to walk up to a girl and say something outlandish and direct. I'm more about the direct having a conversation/connection style, but my first few warmup approaches are canned. I'll walk up to a girl and just say, "I love your (random clothing arti…
/r/seduction24/06/15 02:38 AM
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I posted this to another thread, but I think it can help you as well: Ugh... Theory is overrated. I mean yeah, there is some things that can help if you're not in touch with your instincts... Want to make a connection, learn about eye contact. Want to kiss, learn to look at her lips as a signal... etc etc. but honestly, your vibe... how you're feeling at the moment, is so much more important. And your intent... You let her know your interested in her romantically and you're being fun... It's ove…
/r/seduction23/06/15 09:43 PM
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Like I said, hit the gym. Get happy with the shape of your body... if You have hair problems, there are solutions... Watch some of Alpha M's Videos on style and spend a little money on making yourself look good and that usually fixes up confidence problems. At least for making an impression. The rest comes when you finally figure out girls are as awkward as you are.
/r/seduction23/06/15 08:12 PM
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Ugh... Theory is overrated. I mean yeah, there is some things that can help if you're not in touch with your instincts... Want to make a connection, learn about eye contact. Want to kiss, learn to look at her lips as a signal... etc etc. but honestly, your vibe... how you're feeling at the moment, is so much more important. And your intent... You let her know your interested in her romantically and you're being fun... It's over. You win. However if you want some actual guidelines, look up videos…
/r/seduction23/06/15 08:05 PM
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Gym... I cannot stress it enough, but if you don't have self-confidence, the gym will start turning you into a narcissistic ego-maniac. Just remember when you're spending so much time in front of the mirror to occasionally remind yourself to pretend to be humble.
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:51 PM
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your problem is you are thinking of thinking of it as a routine. What you want to have is a conversation. And in a conversation, the idea is that both people are sharing. But honestly, you could almost stand there and drool on yourself as long as you're projecting the right vibe...
/r/seduction23/06/15 07:37 AM
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It's a common game. You take turns telling two things that are true and one that is a lie. You try to make the lie as believable as possible or the truth sound as outlandish as possible and they have to guess which one the lie is.
/r/seduction22/06/15 08:41 PM
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2 truths and a lie make for a much more interesting interaction.
/r/seduction22/06/15 05:10 PM
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That means she's on guard, poke fun at it to break the ice. if you get that reply, try something like, "Ohh Me too. We have so much in common!"
/r/seduction22/06/15 05:06 PM
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Honestly, everybody who gets good at this can owe it all to a little lightbulb moment. Once you realize that if you make your intention clear and she's still standing in front of you, she's interested too. All the pressure just vanishes and it becomes fun. And fun is like STDs, contagious.
/r/seduction22/06/15 09:03 AM
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Get comfortable with touch people on the shoulder. It's a gender neutral rapport building kino, meaning it's not sexually suggestive. It works for making connections to anybody. Worry about other forms of Kino after you've mastered that.
/r/seduction22/06/15 08:31 AM
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The key that your friend has is self-amusement. Even if he bombed, he'd still have a laugh about it... i'm sure. And that keeps AA down because in this state you aren't thinking about how your ego is going to get hurt.
/r/seduction22/06/15 08:16 AM
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The underline concept here is solid, but you have to be careful not to seem like your opener is too generic. If possible, make a playful statement using concepts from their profile. Also, for your profile, it's seen as attractive to postulate things that you find attractive, but it's not viewed well to postulate things that you find unattractive.
/r/seduction22/06/15 07:57 AM
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