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I disagree with your reasoning. Unless you're taking your shot with GigaChad, it's a stupid idea for women to initiate. Most men will simply say yes even if he's not actually into her just to get easy sex and relationship benefits. He may even treat her badly as a result. He also hasn't proved his "fitness" to her by having the confidence to take the risk of approaching.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:34 PM
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Because working on your looks as a man is going to get worse results than working on your vibe/game so there's not much point for poorly socialized men. It's a lot harder to stop being a dweeb (as Grid would say) than to get jacked.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 06:25 PM
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Open relationships only benefit women. And maybe Chad. But Chad doesn't need an open relationship, he just spins plates. Why would there be any incentive for a normal guy to want one? A normal guy would be deluded to think he's going to be swimming in poon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 03:38 PM
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Okay, I'll rephrase it. "It was my own damned fault for allowing myself to continue being treated that way even though I knew she wasn't interested". That was on me. Yes, she was wrong for using me in the first place, but we were all young and foolish and made bad decisions once upon a time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/23 10:48 AM
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Grow up and stop playing games. And this is coming from a "masculine" man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 06:44 PM
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1) Hot 2) Fat
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 09:39 AM
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Exactly. I ain't messing with no ugly fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:13 AM
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Fat girls: 1) Are the hottest 2) Give it GOOD CMV
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 10:53 PM
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A long time ago when I was a dumb naive teenager I simped hard for a girl once. I asked her out straight away and she gave me the whole "I really like you as a friend" gentle letdown. Idiotically, I took that as "So you're saying MAYBE there's a chance..." and threw myself into being the best friend ever to win her heart. Obviously, it didn't work and she really did use me for time, attention, validation, money and "boyfriend benefits". Basically everything red pill guys fear. You can choose to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 08:16 PM
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Most men would consider ALL women as relationship gals unless he knows or finds out she's a current or former slut. In that case, she's only good for one thing because: 1) He doesn't want to take the risk that she might cheat on him. We all know the correlation between n-count and cheating. 2) He has a visceral disgust for women who sleep around. It could just be one of those factors or both combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:55 PM
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Exactly. It's the other way round. When men refuse to marry, it's all "man up", etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 06:47 PM
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I know, that's soooo much better, right? Silly, silly men for having such a hang-up!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 03:54 PM
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Why is that? If being “husband material” is such an insult, why do guys collectively lose their shit when women say they don’t ever want to get married? Do y’all want to be beta buxx or not? Personally, I agree with you - I wouldn't want to be settled for. It's a good question though, I think it would make a good thread of its own if you were to post it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:55 PM
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Because ideally she wants a man who satisfies both alpha and beta attraction triggers at the same time. She wants the raw animal attraction initially and then for him to "mature" and "settle down" later for comfort so that she can depend on him being faithful and sticking around to raise the kids. Continued high-alpha traits and no increase of beta comfort within an established relationship triggers her security alarm bells. It's a tricky balancing act for a man to not dial up the beta too much …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 02:50 PM
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Semantics. Just because you don't find your dog or your houseplant "physically unattractive" doesn't mean you actually want to fuck them either. That's how women view men who aren't hot - non-sexual beings and practically invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:35 PM
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Because she still wants love, marriage, kids, social approval, etc. If she can't get those things with a man she actually wants to fuck, she'll settle for a man she doesn't in order to achieve her goals. Not all women though. Some will choose to be alone instead of compromising on attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:27 PM
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Except for the ones who can't get relationships from men they want to fuck. There simply aren't enough of those men to go around. So instead many women will settle for a relationship with a man they don't want to fuck. I refer you to r/deadbedrooms...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:21 PM
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Damn, you're right! Back to the drawing board...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 12:07 PM
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Women simply don't agree that having a distinction between "sex guy" and "relationship guy" is demeaning to men or why we feel upset at basically being a backup and settled for. They think we're stupid for feeling this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:59 AM
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I wish people were more fatphobic - means more fatties and less competition for me!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:32 AM
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Women aren't attracted to confidence in and of itself. But they find a lack of confidence a massive turn off (as they should).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 11:30 AM
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I'm not skinny. hmu girl
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:44 PM
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Why do people always have to shit on handjobs, like they're a consolation prize? Handjobs are fucking awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:43 PM
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I think you have it backwards. It's not that a man's confidence is attractive per se. It's that a man's lack of confidence is unattractive. And "women" don't like "bullies, jerks and criminals", fucked-up women do. Seriously, look at the types of women drawn to these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 11:34 PM
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Whatever she wants it to mean at a time that suits her.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:26 PM
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Become sick, lose your job or social standing and you'll find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 06:13 PM
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Never gonna happen. Most unrealistic fantasy ever. There's no such thing as unconditional love for a man from a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:53 PM
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My wife taking sadistic pleasure in deliberately arousing me and subsequently frustrating me sexually. Like spending the whole day turning me on, walking around in a skimpy outfit, flashing me, making dirty comments, kissing me passionately, grinding on me, touching my junk but then stopping, pushing me off when I try to escalate, etc. To the point where I'm sporting a raging boner the whole day and literally begging her to let me fuck her. And when she finally does, she purposefully ruins my or…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 05:49 PM
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Compensation for a woman entertaining guys 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 01:26 PM
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If you ain't her boyfriend, you're her girlfriend. That's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:33 PM
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Men just aren't realistically going to get an "equal" wrt experience with a woman their same age. Unless he's Chad, women just simply have more opportunity for experience than the average man. The only solutions are to 1) Get lots of experience himself somehow 2) Date a younger woman (who will have less experience as a function of time) 3) Find a rare woman his own age who isn't as experienced
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:29 PM
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Men want relationships and sex. Being in a relationship is no guarantee of sex though, and requires "work".
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:23 PM
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This guy has only just learned about pre-selection and dread
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 12:17 PM
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And people will have to live with the consequences of their actions of today well into their old age Women won't. The government will make sure of it if necessary. Even if that means making men pick up the tab.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 06:10 PM
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Personally, not an issue haha! But if she's a size queen, she'll let you know right away if you don't measure up, no fear.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:54 PM
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You seem to be talking more about her having behaved safely/responsibly. Which is important sure. But my main issue would be if all those previous guys are nothing like me, it's pretty clear she has a type and I'm not it. So I'd know I'm being settled for. No thanks. If she's been with even as many as 100 guys and they're all similar to me, we got no problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 05:44 PM
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Come at me bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:36 PM
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I'm a man. She needs to be: 1) Hot 2) Fat That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:05 PM
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Because the women are only fucking the same top-tier guys. Women, like men, prefer to fuck the hottest person they can get. Hot guys are willing to fuck average girls, so of course the girls choose the hot guys. Simple. The normal guys meanwhile are getting zero cooch.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:02 PM
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Because they only benefit women. And maybe Chad. What incentive is there for a normal guy to be accepting of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:54 PM
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Are they only reserved for an elite class of men ? Bingo. Most men are just simply invisible to women sorry. But if you "signal" her with a smile, etc. instead, you can very easily become visible to her and she may then respond favorably. Courage!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 03:11 PM
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If you don't have anything to say, keep your damn mouth shut. A woman is always trying to find ways to add demerit points to your card, don't make her job easier for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:38 PM
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If you're a man, there's no such thing as the "friend zone". If you're not her boyfriend, you're her girlfriend. Simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:33 PM
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Thanks for your rebuttal. I think I agree with you actually, having thought about it. I'm just about to add a conclusion to the OP and I will mention your point there too.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 02:00 PM
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I'm glad you've found a great and compatible partner!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:37 PM
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Thanks for your insight. So, in answer to my original question, would a fair summary be that unless he's an exceptional man (Chad), it's simply a matter of luck for a man to find a HL partner, even if he tries to actively be a part of niche subcultures where he suspects women are more likely to be HL?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:35 PM
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Hmmm. It seems many other high libido women in this thread are perfectly happy for men to be upfront and discuss the subject with them. However, most average/low libido women would not be happy to discuss it and "red flags" would be raised about a man being "pushy" about sex to the extent that she would not entertain the idea of a relationship with him, whereas she would have if he'd kept his mouth shut. Given that high libido women are relatively rare and how much harder it is for men to even g…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:26 PM
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Thanks for your insight. I'm guessing from a female perspective that the choice seems obvious to you because "being alone" as a woman is very different to "being alone" for a man. As a woman, you are likely to be alone for a far shorter time (on average) than a man would. Also, a woman is still likely to be "talking to" other men (and maybe even hooking up with them) and she has a far greater support network around her of friends and family than the average man. When a man is alone, he is truly …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:18 PM
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Hope it works out for you, good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 01:10 PM
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Yeah that would suck too. I explicitly said not a nympho in the OP: by "high libido", I don't mean a raging nymphomaniac DTF 24/7. Just "high-enough libido" for them to be sexually compatible and happy with their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:23 PM
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Do you concede that you have the privilege of being able to be upfront about it because you are a woman though? A man does not have that luxury unless he's an elite sought-after man with options.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:20 PM
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.#2 is valid, sure. But only #1 answers the question of how to find a HL woman in the first place. But, again, it's not something you can just bring up on the first date before you've smashed without setting off alarm bells. "What the fuck are you doing in my purse?" - "Oh just looking for your birth control pills, don't mind me, carry on!" 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:13 PM
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Glad to hear it. Can you see why average/low libido women judge men for bringing it up though? And therefore why it's in a man's best interest not to bring it up. Basically, he has two choices: 1) Don't bring it up. Get into relationship. Have sex. Find out her libido level. 2) Bring it up. Overwhelmingly likely get a "🚩 hell no 🚩" from a woman who would otherwise have got into a relationship with him. Get no sex. Only one of those options gets any sex at all, even if it's a suboptimal amount!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 11:01 PM
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Do you have kids? Are you married? WHY are you still with him? Life's too short and you hold all the cards as a woman!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:49 PM
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🤯 I mean, just wow...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:34 PM
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Made me chuckle, ngl 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:30 PM
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Would you judge a man, however, for bringing it up even though you're HL yourself? A case of man being "pushy" about sex = red flag?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:28 PM
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You're right, I'm just spitballin'. This doesn't affect me anyway, I'm married and we have fairly matched libidos so I'm all good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:26 PM
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Yikes. That's pretty sketchy. Plus I don't understand how a man can bring themselves to have sex with a woman they know doesn't really want it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:22 PM
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It's also possible for a high libido woman to have a "normal" partner count by satisfying her urge only within relationships, just like men are told to. High libido does not necessarily equal lack of self control. Question for you: even for you, a woman with a high sex drive and it being important to you, would you be seeing red flags if a man explicitly brought up early on how much it was important to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:19 PM
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Women can have lots and lots of sex within committed LTRs, therefore a non-high n-count and not a "thot". Women can also have high libidos and still have self control, just like men are expected to 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:11 PM
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Congrats man! Maybe I've just been "unlucky" then? Although most of my buddies say they have sex with their wives about once or twice a week as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 10:10 PM
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🎯
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 09:02 PM
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OR perhaps they should take some fucking responsibility for their own happiness and find someone they’re sexually compatible with Care to answer the question of "how" then please, as per the OP? men stay in relationships with women that have too low of a libido for them. Are these men victims? They have no other choice - unless you know a secret I don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 09:00 PM
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We have more criteria that our partner needs to meet Libido isn’t really constant as it can be altered by many things. Then you don't have as high a libido as a man. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:50 PM
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The "compromise" is the low libido partner's way or the highway. They don't need to compromise because they see no problem and they continue to get everything they want out of the relationship either way. Incentives and all that. And there isn't any way for the LL partner to compromise anyway. Because obviously you can't (and shouldn't) make anyone have sex they don't want. A one-sided compromise isn't a compromise. I refer you to r/deadbedrooms...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 08:47 PM
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Ah you've already filtered for HL women before the date with your direct profile then (and been silently rejected by women not down with that).
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:38 PM
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Currently the only way to reduce a man's libido is to artificially lower his testosterone. Which comes with a whole host of other health problems and also significantly reduces his masculine characteristics/traits, rendering him less attractive to women in general. So it's not as simple as "just taking a pill", unfortunately. Hypothetically, if it WERE as simple as that, I genuinely might be interested, as I'm sure many other men would be too. Any other men reading this, would you do it?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 05:26 PM
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I would imagine that's going to be the same problem of other dating sites/apps in that it's like 80-90% thirsty men competing over a tiny number of picky women. Must be like shooting fish in a barrel for you as a horny woman though, right? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 04:44 PM
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I would imagine that even if they said nothing to you on the date itself, you'll have been "nexted" by quite a few women afterwards for being so direct.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:03 PM
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I did. "No, but <metaphor>" So I asked a follow-up question. The bit about whether it's realistically achievable or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:55 PM
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So you reckon it is not realistically achievable for a man to find a non-"thot" HL woman? Just a matter of luck and/or time?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:52 PM
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I don’t think once or twice a week is “high libido” even for women. More like average libido. Yeah, that's what I said. In my experience it's rare for a woman to want it more often than that in an established LTR. And I'm very aware that it's all too easy for men to turn off women once in a relationship, as someone else said give her "the ick".
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:48 PM
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“All men want a slut. But only OUR slut.” A man can dream, right...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:43 PM
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At this point, the less someone clings to their gender as their greatest point of virtue, the better. We're all just "innies" and "outies" at the end of the day. 😂 What about the Roman classification of "active" vs. "passive" instead? Would that appeal more to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:41 PM
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Genuine question: do you think only "thots" can be high libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:38 PM
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Oh boy, that's a toughie. How long is a piece of string? In MY personal experience, once new relationship energy has worn off, I would say that the average girl would choose to have sex of her own volition maybe once or twice a week. So anything above that I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:35 PM
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At the bottom of the OP: by "high libido", I don't mean a raging nymphomaniac DTF 24/7. Just "high-enough libido" for them to be sexually compatible and happy with their sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:31 PM
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I've heard a lot about the prejudice bi men face from women before. Has that been your experience too?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:29 PM
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Yes, all too frequent. Good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:27 PM
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Do you reckon it's not possible for a "vanilla" woman to be high libido then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:27 PM
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Good point. LL women can become HL women situationally. But I'm really talking about finding a woman who is just hornier than average in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:24 PM
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Probabilistically, maybe. But not necessarily true. She might have had a "ho phase" when she was younger that she is well and truly over now. Or some other reason. But the problem remains. How does he then find a high-n woman. He can't outright ask her for exactly the same reasons plus women lie about n-count all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 02:19 PM
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What's not to like? Women just keep getting more and more attractive!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:19 PM
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Left. I'm into bodies, not faces (left is still cute though). And redheads 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:14 PM
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Hey, we still need something to occupy ourselves with while on the throne too!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 10:05 PM
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(Fuck me. I disappear for a while then it's fucking purge week. What a dumpster fire!) Serious non-purge answer: The only reason I would care about preferring a "low n" woman (whatever that number is) to wife up is because, all else being equal, she is less likely to cheat and blow up the marriage. High n is highly correlated with cheating (for both sexes). Yes, yes, correlation does not imply causation and there are plenty of other red flags she can have that might indicate propensity for cheat…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 05:21 PM
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I disagree. Wanting to be desired is not about power. It's validating and it simply feels good to be truly desired by a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 01:21 PM
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Your muscles need recovery time too. That is a crucial part of muscle protein synthesis.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 06:20 PM
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Full body is more efficient. You then only need to workout a couple of times a week for the same benefit. Work smarter, not harder!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:44 PM
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Misanthropic nihilist.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:42 PM
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Starting to realize that I should simply move into a city if I want to constantly be "challenged" and have my balls busted by liberal women Fixed that for you! 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:39 PM
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She needs to eat a burger or two, then I would be interested!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/21 05:30 PM
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You'll notice that you generally never see the "guy", just his dick. It helps guys imagine themselves in his place, i.e. she's fucking you. It's all part of the fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 05:02 PM
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😍
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 02:35 PM
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They will not suddenly print more money They are doing it constantly. Probably right now as we speak. It just has a different euphemistic name these days: "quantitative easing".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:27 PM
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Because they're mutual friends with that Liv Boeree chick and they were totally down for threesomes. Seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:17 PM
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There has to be something Alas, there isn't. The only option is to trim rather than shave. Keep it neat, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/21 01:07 PM
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She would be free to do as she wishes. Likewise, I would be free to dissolve our partnership if our values are incompatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 07:26 PM
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I'm sure there's enough of an "archive" of porn on most men's computers to tide the world over for a while yet!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:12 PM
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I think things would be much scarier for a lot of men You mean because there is no incentive for men to "behave" (chance of love, families, etc.) - the social contract gets ripped up?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:11 PM
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Initially. But men could take over those jobs. Incentives and all that. Not so easy (and could be impossible) for some "men's jobs" for women to take over.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 06:09 PM
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It's a common "revenge fantasy" topic on this sub. A more interesting question is whether there would be a similar apocalypse if all women disappeared instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:57 PM
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All of them? Women have options and can weigh up the positives and negatives. Men can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:47 PM
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Diaphragm/cap? That's pretty low on the side effects/complications. I agree that women's contraception options have side effects, which is why I never claimed otherwise. Just wanted to head off the "get a vasectomy then" crowd. My point is women have many more options AND they are under her control. Men's options are 1) feel nothing at all, 2) potentially never have children, ever, and risk lifelong permanent pain and ED or 3) trust that your female partner isn't deceiving you about her contrace…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:45 PM
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Yes, because they just won't ever shut the fuck up and are constantly proselytizing. Whereas everyone I know with my political views are "live and let live". I'm sure you can work out which side is which...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:34 PM
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Women have tons of contraception options that they control. Men need one that isn't permanent and doesn't completely numb all sensation of intercourse. No, a vasectomy is not reliably reversible and also carries a non-trivial risk of complications.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:28 PM
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Or, in my case, if they would GAIN 10-15 pounds
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 05:25 PM
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Are you a woman or a man? Do you think women find other women's preferences being stated upfront equally as obnoxious as when men do it though?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:53 PM
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I agree. But this isn't really about Chad. It's about women being allowed to have (and be vocal about) requirements and preferences but not men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:50 PM
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Ah. I should have clarified that they were compatible, i.e. she has a high libido. But she rejected him because he said it outright. I will edit the post. Of course, if they actually are incompatible, then no big deal as you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 03:33 PM
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Women can indeed easily get all that with the caveat being that she won't be attracted to him (even if he is her "looks match"). Women want all that with a man they are attracted to which is, unfortunately, a very small percentage of the male population.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:17 PM
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Yeah, who needs a livelihood and a roof over their heads, right? Fucking cowards!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 01:02 PM
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Not stalking you, Poppy, just going through the whole thread! My view is that women who go down the tingly Chad route in their youth shouldn't be allowed to switch to "Plan B" and settle for Poindexter when it (inevitably) doesn't work out. It's not fair on him at all. She won't be attracted to him, she'll have completely ruined her pair-bonding ability and she'll have baggage galore from her previous mistreatment that she'll take out on him for the duration of the relationship. If you choose Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:21 AM
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Oh, you like the arguing. You're one of them masochists I done heard about!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:12 AM
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I'm afraid you've lost me there, sorry. Are you agreeing or disagreeing with me? I wasn't saying men prefer low SES girls, just that many of us would have no problem marrying one - it's just a complete non-issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:11 AM
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Many men would if they could. Truly. A lot of us really don't care about her education/career/class as long as she's not as dumb as a post. But they don't move in the same circles, for one, so the opportunity is missing. And women of a lower socioeconomic status generally prefer more masculine/alpha men, but UMC "men" are pussies these days and they wouldn't stand a chance with her even if they were billionaires.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 11:02 AM
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Honest question - I've noticed you particularly get a lot of flak here, does it not wear you down sometimes or make you not want to participate?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:52 AM
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See. To prove my point with the women asking why men want to be allowed to be emotional, we don't and it's the WOMEN who keep bringing this up, not us.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/21 10:50 AM
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Is there much solar irradiance at your latitude in Russia?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 06:06 PM
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WE DON'T. The women keep bringing it up for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 05:20 PM
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My bad. It's "every sperm is great", not good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 12:18 PM
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🎵 Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is waaaaaasted, God gets quite irate 🎵
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 09:11 AM
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In today's climate? Hell no. Even approaching her and asking her out politely and respectfully is a minefield that could see you disciplined or fired for "harassment" (remember, most HR policies agree that if she FEELS she was harassed, then it WAS harassment). Then if the relationship goes south and she's angry at you, she can get you fired by making up false allegations (which don't need any proof) or saying you abused your position of "power" (remember, all men are apparently the "powerful cl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 11:52 PM
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Some men, yes. Perhaps even a significant minority. But most men? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:21 PM
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Gentlemen, once again, do NOT allow yourselves to be settled for by a woman who is not attracted to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:41 PM
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Don't forget the showers, at least 50 a day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:42 PM
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Ugh... I think it would be preferable to be a lifelong incel than obtain a dependopotamus
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:41 PM
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You jest, but there is something about chicks with that attitude...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:35 PM
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It was a sarcastic and rhetorical question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 06:16 PM
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Erm... yeah... that was totally the reason <nervous laughter> 🤥
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:52 PM
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Hold on, I have a lucrative new career idea...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:45 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:40 PM
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How on earth can a doctor "verify" that a peepee has never been inside a vagina before?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:39 PM
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I know, fucking ridiculous. What a thing to "prize". As I said, the sucker deserves all he gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:37 PM
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I'm giving him enough rope to see if he'll hang himself...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:35 PM
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Check what? As I said, there's no way to prove it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:26 PM
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She probably isn't even a virgin - there's no way to prove it. Whatever sucker falls for this deserves all he gets.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:18 PM
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As a low N count woman If you say this three times will it invoke Pickle?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:10 PM
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Yeah, but Becky is such an annoying bitch, she deserves to get shut down!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 05:04 PM
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That's sneaky beta game. Chad isn't pretending to want to date her, he makes his intentions very clear and gets instant results. Men are asking for advice on how to be this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:43 PM
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Cool. Thanks for linking. Not gonna take IFS as a reputable source though lol. The other one seems more legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:33 PM
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Yeah, but back in the day women's sexuality was rigorously policed much more than now.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:32 PM
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I would argue that many women don't want men to learn how to slay because they see it as being "used" by him and that he's getting what he wants at her expense That only involves if this guy is getting a lot of lays by low-key scamming women. That's not the only, nor even most effective, way to get laid I agree. But many women see it the way I said in ALL circumstances. It's black and white to them. Case in point...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:10 PM
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Ah, it seems we're both right (or wrong, depending on how you look at it). Trojans and Magnums are both 2.09" in width (apparently width is the standard measurement rather than circumference), but there is also a Magnum XL which is 2.3" in width.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 04:06 PM
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You clearly have too much time on your hands! :-P
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:58 PM
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Perhaps. If they do in fact cheat more. Are there reputable studies which prove this? (Not asking you to find them, just asking if you've seen them - I'll take your word on it).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 03:57 PM
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I completely missed that thread. women get what they deserve when they drink and hang out with Chads This is awful too. No-one deserves sexual assault or anything bad to happen to them, no matter the circumstances. However, I'm not surprised it happens in that situation compared to other non-partying-with-Chads situations. And I'm sure women know this too. For clarification, I'm NOT victim blaming, just stating that there are situations which are commonly known as riskier than others and that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:34 PM
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Congratulations on joining the elite club!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 02:03 PM
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Woman raped while unconscious: not a victim Dafuq? What asshole said that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 01:33 PM
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Interesting fact for you - Magnums are actually the same size as regular condoms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:53 AM
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Don't be unattractive. Sorry, couldn't resist!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:49 AM
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I don't actually think there's anything immoral about wanting to have a bunch of casual sex in and of itself I would argue that many women don't want men to learn how to slay because they see it as being "used" by him and that he's getting what he wants at her expense. Sex-positive people are not the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:35 AM
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Ooh this will be fun! 🍿 🐹 🐹 🐹 🐹
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:22 AM
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Facts. However, men and women do speak completely different languages about things like this. It's not any side's fault. Would you personally give advice to a man on how to slay though? Would there be any restrictions on who you would advise? For example, your little brother or your quiet, timid friend who everyone thinks is "sweet" or "really nice" - would you be worried about "corrupting" them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:18 AM
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Oh dear. Someone didn't read the OP or the comment I replied to. In fact, not even the TITLE of the thread...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:09 AM
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For some (many) people, the saying is true that "people are only as faithful as their options". For women this should be amended to "women are only as faithful as their better options". So why isn't everyone cheating on each other left, right and center? Well, for some people (especially men)† , it is indeed lack of options. But for the rest of us there are a myriad of factors at play such as maturity, morality, risk/reward and, most importantly, LOVE! Believe it or not, but not everyone who has…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 10:06 AM
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All women and Chad. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:48 AM
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^ This. A woman with high n-count who can be brutally honest Make sure to ask her explicitly about SEXUAL success though, or she will still give you relationship advice instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:45 AM
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Women have no concept of achieving "sexual success" - it's like asking them what the color yellow smells like. So they only offer "relationship success" advice by describing the qualities their ideal partner would have in the relationship when they eventually come to "settle down" in x number of years time. This advice, of course, doesn't include any mention of how to attract her to get into the relationship in the first place and misses out the most important piece of information - namely, in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:42 AM
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fully clothed antechamber Great name for a band
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 09:31 AM
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Isn't accusing others of bad faith, etc. against the sub rules? Can't you just ban them? Surely there has to be some perks to being a mod of this dumpster fire, right?!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 03:05 PM
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Because they made the "wrong" choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:56 PM
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I lean RP, but don't identify as such nor do I agree with the ideology. My most BP belief is that unicorns are out there. Whatever a unicorn is to you personally. The saying is true: "there's someone out there for everyone". I should know, I married mine :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:53 PM
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Some people absolutely do care enough. I don't have links to hand, but I've seen several examples over recent years of strangers taking up the case after women have complained about "harassment" online and gone on to get the average Joe man (not a celebrity or "powerful") hounded out of his job on her behalf. This is even rarer than a woman doing it directly herself but, again, it DOES happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:35 PM
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try to get him fired from his job, kicked off his college course, etc. Come on, Poppy, let's you and I not fall out. Those are things that can and DO actually happen, albeit rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:01 PM
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good guys need help and guidance to be told what to do Similarly, young guys are told today in mandatory sexual harassment college classes all the things that MIGHT constitute harassment, but never the things that definitely aren't harassment. Of course, the reason for this is because ANYTHING can be considered harassment so long as she feels it is. This line is backed up by college policies and statutes too. So no wonder they're all timid and walking around on eggshells around women today. It's…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 12:05 PM
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It is an overblown fear. However, the issue isn't shaming but being CANCELED instead. There are a non-zero number of crazy and cruel women that unreasonably overreact and try to get him fired from his job, kicked off his college course, etc. even though that wasn't even the context of the "harassment" of a man politely and respectfully taking his shot somewhere else. As I said, the fear is overblown. But it absolutely DOES happen to random nobodies as well as celebrities too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:57 AM
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Chinese Communist Party "social credit" system? I think there was an episode of Black Mirror that did that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 11:49 AM
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Edit: I have removed my comment. In my defense, it seems the OP edited the post after I had already commented and added the "no replying to people's comments" rule. Nonetheless, plenty of other people have done the same anyway and haven't got called out for it 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:30 AM
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Who the hell doesn't already do this regularly for their female partner???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:20 AM
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It seems to me like it would have been very clear to him you were uncomfortable/not ready rather than playing games. The vast majority of men are a lot more understanding about the former rather than the latter. I don't think you'll have much trouble in the future finding a kind and patient man who will be willing to take things slow with you, nor will you need to explicitly tell him you're a virgin. However, many commenters have implied the guy in your OP was an asshole for not contacting you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 10:14 AM
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This is the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 09:53 AM
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"Is that you, Red?"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:48 PM
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Interesting. You're the first woman I've seen with that opinion. Incels often try to use that as a gotcha on women in relation to women who put out straight away with no effort for Chad but make "relationship guy" wait and jump through hoops. But the women ALWAYS say they wouldn't care if they found this out so it's a bad equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:52 PM
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Sexual equivalent - prostitutes. That elicits the same ewwww disgust from women that men have for sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 09:48 PM
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This sets new standards for 'top men' that they can compare all men to Yes, this is definitely true. Even being Chad isn't enough today. Any woman can obtain a Chad today, even if only for 5 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 06:03 PM
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It would not be in their interest to do so. In fact, quite the opposite. It would impact on their ability to get what they want and also ruin the "backup plan" of having willing dutiful betas waiting around for them when their primary objective fails, be that obtaining a top tier man in the first place or failing to get the top tier man to stick around and raise his kid. "Plan A" was always a risky long-shot anyway as there simply aren't enough top tier men to go around, so women know they're pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 05:57 PM
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an average women can easily hookup with a higher value men while it is very hard for average men to do the same hookup with any woman at all. Fixed that for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 04:19 PM
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The genie's out of the bottle. This is how women have chosen mates for 99% of human history. The past few thousand years of civilization, organized religion and monogamy are an anomaly. The vast majority of males have never had a chance to pass on their genes historically. Women's standards are actually deflated by (pre-)historical standards. The only thing that can "dial back" women's standards is force or society-wide cultural coercion. Barring any kind of disaster or societal collapse, this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 04:16 PM
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He's 12
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 03:11 PM
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Missed that. My point still stands generally though. "Another time" is very often a soft no too. It would be wise to take it as such unless SHE contacts you to reschedule.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:12 PM
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Finally on trial for fraud facing 20 years in the clink. Except of course none of it is her fault because a Bad Man was "emotionally controlling" her. Remember, women have no agency at all. Except when they decide they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:06 PM
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I had to decline to see him a week later when he asked me I've quoted verbatim. Where does that say what you said? I can make up quotes to support my arguments too...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:36 PM
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My eldest son is just about to start junior high and has recently become obsessed with wanting to get ripped like his old man after binge watching Vin Diesel and The Rock movies this summer to impress the girls. I wasn't remotely interested in girls at his age. It's really quite sad, why can't kids just be kids any more these days?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:15 PM
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First! Anyone seen the Elizabeth Holmes (Theranos) stuff? What do people think? She seems to be playing the "abuse" card to absolve herself of any responsibility AND looks like she deliberately got herself knocked up so she won't have to go to prison if found guilty. "I don't think her being a new mother will influence the trial but the judge is likely to take it into account if she is found guilty," says Emily D Baker, a former deputy district attorney for Los Angeles and legal commentator
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:02 PM
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I had to decline to see him a week later when he asked me That's a "soft" no. (Women don't ever give out a "hard" no except as a last resort) There are two ways a man can proceed - 1) accept the no and move on or 2) see the soft no as a "maybe" and persist. We all know that option 2 is verboten these days. Persistence, trying to win her over, chasing her, etc. is now seen as harassment and asking to be #MeToo-ed. No means no, remember. Yet women still get annoyed that men don't "just get it" whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 12:01 PM
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Women: "No means no" Also women: "OMG what an asshole! He's SUPPOSED to know I want to be pursued" You can't have it both ways, ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 10:20 AM
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It is if you WANT to be sex guy and not relationship guy. Can women really not see why (some) men would want that and that it is "winning"? Many men really do see that as being treated better. I get that as women you may feel like relationship guy is the "real winner" in the end, but can you honestly not conceive things differently from men's point of view? This isn't all directed at you by the way Smurf. Opportunity was just too good not to hijack your comment!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:13 PM
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Interesting. TIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 06:15 PM
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including just regular ol’ dudes Ah, I notice you didn't answer my question. Regular dudes = average attractiveness. Do you actually enjoy uggos beating their meat to you? Or at the very least, not find the thought repulsive? You sex people are all deviants and degenerates! 😛
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:46 PM
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Yeah, I've had women flat-out tell me to never even think about asking for anal when I've unleashed the beast even though they're generally down with it. Which is no big deal cos I REALLY don't get anal. It's not for me at all. Am I weird given how many men seem to really prize it? Again though, it's hot when women want to do it for me despite knowing how uncomfortable/painful it might be for her. I always politely decline haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:31 PM
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Money. Validation. Their boyfriends encourage them ("look at this fine piece of ass I'm tapping and you'll never get, internet losers!") Any or all of the above.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:21 PM
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I really enjoy the idea of people watching/getting turned on by me Even ugly-ass fat fuck basement-dwelling neckbeard incels? 🤢 Let's be real, men that you would actually want to fap over you don't need to use OnlyFans or pay women for a "connection". If I'm wrong, can you shed some insight here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 05:18 PM
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Uvula 🤓 Deep-throat doesn't do much for me personally, so no great loss on my part. It is sexy as FUCK though when a woman wants to do it to me anyway just to please me despite her eyes almost popping out of her head when she sees my dong haha! Now that's how you make your man feel like a king!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 04:12 PM
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Yep. Having a big dick isn't all upsides. It definitely affects the vibe/flow of things in the bedroom when I'm always having to be conscious of not hurting her and holding back. And when I do accidentally bash the cervix, it's game over which sucks for her because pain/injury and sucks for me because blue balls and doghouse!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 02:33 PM
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You're disgusted that - through nobody's fault - I've had better sex in the past than with my wife?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:54 PM
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I don't think that it's really a gendered issue. In the real world? Perhaps not. But it absolutely is online. On ANY mainstream sub, Twitter, etc. the female bias is overwhelming. Any time a woman posts a problem or asks for advice, there is kindness, compassion and empathy. Reverse the sex and you get the opposite. People have even deliberately withheld or lied about their sex, then disclosed the truth afterwards to prove the point many many times. My hope is that this is all just stupid immatu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:43 PM
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Yep. I've had amazing hot monkey sex with women better than my wife in the past. My wife still gives it to me good though. The difference with these callous women is that I would never in a million years let my wife find out about this ("of course you're the best I've had, darling"), or if she did find out invalidate her hurt feelings over it and tell her it's her problem or that she's iNsEcUrE about it. A lot of women here seem completely incapable of any compassion or empathy for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 01:04 PM
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Women will say it's all your fault, that you're an entitled asshole for expecting any sex at all and if you dare leave her, you're worse than Hitler. And if you want to improve the situation you have to jump through a million-and-one difficult hoops and still accept that you probably still won't get any. "Communication", "patience" and no amount of doing dishes will make her want to fuck you any more - don't listen to that noise. She has lost attraction to you, plain and simple. You can either p…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:08 AM
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Keep fighting the good fight haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 10:00 AM
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"Improving the looks" LMAO. Just slapping some clown paint on a woman doesn't actually make her more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:53 AM
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How do you retards not already know all this shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:49 AM
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I will be taking up his mantle as the resident connoisseur of well-proportioned ladies (only hot ones though).
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/21 09:47 AM
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Bullshit. That is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:22 PM
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When I was younger, it was readily available to me (it still would be now if I wanted to cheat on my wife). And I devoted a LOT of time to it! But women fitted in with my time, hobbies and friends - not the other way around. That attitude and my confidence due to abundance enhanced my attractiveness to women - it was a virtuous circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:18 PM
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If (nearly) all men were doing this, then it would incentivize sneaky motherfuckers to not join in and clean up. Hence it would never work because all men are out for themselves. That's neither a good thing nor a bad thing - it just is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 06:03 PM
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Not to boast (much), but I get hit on by guys and girls now and again and I find it equally flattering 🤷‍♂️ No homo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:56 PM
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don’t approach me at the gym unless you are a 10/10 Chad Is this confirmation that women are dressing like that at the gym for Chad rather than because "iT's CoMfOrTaBlE"?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:42 PM
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boys... suffering... empathy... Yeah, good luck with that!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/21 05:39 PM
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a bachelor tax on single men over the age of 30 This is something I could definitely see becoming a reality in the not-too-distant future.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:41 PM
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Attracted as in want to bang them? Of course. I'm a man. Crushing on them though? No. I'm not a stupid teenager. And I haven't been for a very long time either <sigh>
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:25 PM
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Wow, the mental gymnastics by women on this thread...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 03:21 PM
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Serious question. How long have you been around here for? And you're a mod too, right? Don't you get sick of dealing with the same old shit (and same old topics) day after day? I've not been here long at all and I'm about ready to throw in the towel already.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:38 PM
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Because I'm fraternizing with the "enemy"? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:34 PM
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My point was him in 1998, if I saw at a rooftop bar I wouldn’t entertain, but if I saw a man who looked like how he does now, I would entertain them. I explained that thoroughly. My point was he got better looking to me which means I would be more open to engaging him arousingly if the vibes hit it off. This is actually a perfect example of what I was talking about. I remember that thread too. You gave solid concrete advice to guys about women's sexual attraction. 1998 Jeff: balding, skinny dwee…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 01:18 PM
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I ain't a bloop. And if you look at what she says, most of it is common sense stuff that RP says too. But, as they say, common sense isn't common...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 12:45 PM
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You're one of the few women here who 1) actually have the patience to respond to clueless/incel men in good faith and 2) explain to them what women are actually sexually attracted to (not romantically attracted to) in non-womanspeak, i.e. tell it like it is. They should actually listen to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 12:11 PM
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Oh shit, it's already happening?! I wonder what the ultimate end-game is for femcentric society? I can't help thinking of crazy scenarios when you see shit like this being pulled.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 10:53 AM
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There are a non-zero number of women who would "retroactively withdraw their consent" because they regret it and feel disgusted. There are feminists who are actively campaigning for any kind of "lying" to a woman to be legally considered rape and the concept is actually gaining serious consideration in some jurisdictions. Fucking 🤡 world!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 10:47 AM
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Ask Grid. She's good at explaining this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/21 09:25 AM
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I think we're still in the awkward transition phase between traditionalism and modernity with men and women both trying to experimentally pick and choose aspects of each to best suit them and their families. This is all very interesting (genuinely), but I think we've veered way off topic here, which was why some men (me included) can find women who make a big deal about their career and education off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 11:13 PM
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You'll never be able to know for certain. Women ALWAYS ensure they have plausible deniability for their IOIs in case it doesn't go how she wants and/or you mess up.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 10:13 PM
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She's fucking someone else and by arguing with her you gave her an excuse to end the relationship with it being "your fault".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 06:06 PM
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I never made any morality judgements. I just listed a man's two options to deal with a WOMAN'S "immorality".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:41 PM
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"Manipulation"... JFC... It always has to resort to shaming language for male strategy doesn't it. I bet you don't think a slut pretending to be a "good girl" to lock down Mr Right is manipulation though, do you? This is just a strategy to defend against that. And if he actually becomes sex guy, how could that be described as manipulation? That's who he authentically is and, most importantly, who she is actually attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:35 PM
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Do you mean "don't talk to her at all" as in avoid her? That's the second option I listed. If not, what do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:26 PM
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In general, I think not wanting to date black women is about the only racial dating preference men have. We all know the reasons and stereotypes why. They will literally date any other race and outside their own race too. This is not the same for women, who are far more "prejudiced" about it, for want of a better word.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:22 PM
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Bad was the wrong word to use. More like difficult, laborious, non-beneficial, etc. But you're right, women expect a certain baseline of masculinity/traditionalism that benefits them even if they offer nothing whatsoever in return. They do so because they can. I made a whole post about this recently
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:07 PM
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There are only two ways to win with a slutty woman. The first is to either pretend to be or actually become "sex guy" instead of relationship guy to give off the right vibe for her to be slutty with you. And the second is to not play the game and avoid them entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 05:01 PM
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as long as she is slutty for me too Unless you're the same type of guy she was slutty for previously, that's not going to happen. If, instead, you're "relationship guy" she's going to pretend she's not that sort of girl teehee and deliberately downplay the sluttiness in order to gain commitment instead of a pump and dump. And she'll maintain the lie forever with vanilla starfish duty sex. Great quote from one guy on Reddit who found a sex tape hidden in the attic of his wife of her having a trai…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 04:45 PM
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I feel like we're arguing at cross purposes here. Perhaps there is a misunderstanding? My point is that men often don't want to get divorced but the woman does. He would rather stay married and try and work things out. However, once she has set her mind on it, he will of course engage with the process like a grown up. He doesn't want to go through the process, but he does so anyway to get things sorted out. He sure as hell isn't going to be the one to file the papers though seeing as he doesn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 03:36 PM
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Of course a man has to engage in the process, especially if he wants his interests represented and to not get taken to the cleaners. He can't close his eyes and stick his fingers in his ears "la la la not listening therefore you can't divorce me". There are certainly some men that don't want custody, but also those that recognise the kids are better off with mom and those that DO want custody but know their chances off getting it are slim (unless she's violent or on drugs or something), so they …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:59 PM
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Not about the surprise part. About that fact that it's some "mutual agreement". Normally it's one side that wants to get divorced (or wants it more) and that's usually the woman because she's unhaaaaaaapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:24 PM
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Oh, come on Smurf. Do you even honestly believe that yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:15 PM
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This is very true. It's not racist to have racial dating preferences but it makes women look "bad". Which is one of the worst things that can happen to a woman. Especially leftists/SJWs as it makes them look like hypocrites.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 02:10 PM
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Another important point is the fact that a lot of men who want traditional feminine wives don't have anything to offer such a woman. Men are whiny little pussies these days. Are you prepared to be fully traditional and masculine in return, including all the "bad" bits? What makes you think you deserve such a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:59 PM
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Yep, I know I am a lucky son of a bitch. My wife is fucking amazing. I'm not so bad myself, mind - she's done pretty okay for herself too. Sorry for being nauseating if you're eating your breakfast haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:26 PM
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Yup. People are probably unknowingly consuming an extra 500 calories a day just from hidden sugar in stuff that just doesn't need to be there at all. Bread is a good example. I've never seen a single loaf of packaged bread in a store that doesn't have sugar in. I don't eat much bread myself, but we make it ourselves at home from just four ingredients: flour, yeast, salt and water.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:21 PM
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I've encountered this unicorn. And I married her!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:15 PM
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Just thought I'd check - we put sugar in fucking everything here in America. I mean syrup on bacon, WTF?! Thanksgiving dinner is just diabetes on a plate too. It makes eating out difficult, but at least it's kept me in good shape! Edit: ooh downvotes! Who wants to fight about it? Come at me, bro haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 01:10 PM
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Thanks a lot! 🙂 Man, I love chicken Kievs soooo much - I've never managed to stop the butter from leaking when I make it myself though. And that Napoleon cake looks fucking delicious! Alas, I am a terrible baker - perhaps my wife will be kind enough to make it for me soon. I'm not a fan of sweet and savory combinations, so unsure about the pirozhkys. Has that chef "Americanized" the recipe to make the batter sweet, or is that how you have it in Russia too?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 12:53 PM
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What's some good Russian dishes you would recommend people try making? Preferably with ingredients you can get without too much difficulty in America.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:56 AM
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Men don't want to be friends with effeminate pussies either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/21 09:43 AM
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WTF? That's an actual thing? Are you real? Is any of this real? Am I real?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 11:44 PM
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As even women here freely admit, only the top <whatever> percentage of guys are good enough to get free pussy (i.e. casual sex/hookups) except a handful of times when the stars are aligned just right. The rest of men can only get consistent sex within a relationship. Often, their dry spells between relationships can last many months to years. This is the reality for the majority of men. Should these men never be allowed a relationship either because they have the audacity to want consistent sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 10:36 PM
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That depends on you. There are plenty of simps out there of every flavor of man. So you would probably be fine. But, that's only if you can stomach the idea of being with a man who is a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:17 PM
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Exactly 👍 The only downside I can think of in dating a lower-earning, lower-education woman is the odds are greater that she's a single mom. We do care about that for many reasons which have already been exhausted to death on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:04 PM
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Is that your personal relationship experience? I have obviously dated significantly fewer men than you, but I've personally never met any man (or woman) as selfish as that. And no, why the fuck would you want to compete in a relationship?! It's supposed to be a partnership - you both work towards common goals and achievements together and support each other. Personally, I put my wife first and she does the same. Actually, we put the kids first obviously, but you know what I mean. I think this is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:59 PM
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Engaging with you against my better judgment and knowing that I'll probably only get a terse three-word reply from you. But anyway... Cuz male ego Disagree. In my case (and of every man I've discussed this with, both online and offline), it's not for ego reasons that she's earning more, more intelligent or whatever. No, it's because of the whole "strong independent woman" boss bitch attitude that comes along with it. If you think it's egotistical to not want to have my balls busted and be disres…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:47 PM
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Apology accepted. You know that sort of thing puts people's backs up straight away and makes them not want to listen to you or engage with you? Anyway, we'll agree to disagree but I'm genuinely willing to keep an open mind. I'm happy for you to post links to some reputable studies if you like and I will take a read sometime.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:26 PM
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You do realise that wages are recorded in a company's accounts and whatnot and can be audited by the authorities at any time? Even if I take your assertion as fact (which I don't btw), would a handful of asshole employers doing this mean that "women are getting paid less for the same jobs" as a whole? No of course not. And stop with the childish and snarky ad homs. It's very irritating, which I know is obviously your intention.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 08:11 PM
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Apologies - are facts a "tool of the patriarchy" or something? And I'm not your buddy, guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:59 PM
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Post-poop would be ideal but you can't guarantee regularity! Therefore, pre-poop is best.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:55 PM
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Handy guide for you: Anything women do = right Anything men do = wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:51 PM
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Bull. That's actually illegal. And you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:46 PM
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It still amazes me to this day that women can't get their heads around the fact that men are not attracted to women's income, education, career or property like they are for men. Men are not women and we are not attracted to the same things. At best, we don't give a shit and at worst, it's actually a turn-off. "Boohoo! Why can't I find a decent man? I've got a great job, a Master's in <some worthless humanities subject> and own my own condo. I'm a catch!"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:43 PM
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The best thing to do is to weigh yourself once a day under the same conditions - at the same time of day, wearing the same clothes, same amount of food and drink in your system (and bowels). In practise, this means first thing in the morning wearing your jammies (or naked) having gone for a pee (but not a number two) and before you eat or drink anything. By weighing yourself daily instead of weekly you can average out any fluctuations due to water retention, hormones, a big meal the night before…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 07:33 PM
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Marital rape has never been "legal" - it's just never been explicitly and specifically illegal until recent times. It could still be prosecuted under existing laws of the time. For example, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salmon_Act_1986 - poaching has never been legal, but this specific kind of salmon poaching was obviously becoming enough of a problem or difficult to prove that it required the implementation of a specific law for it that was otherwise more cumbersome to prosecute under existing …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:52 PM
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Fine. But, as ever, "you first"...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 05:21 PM
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I don't understand. What other possible way is there for a woman to fuck up? 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 03:33 PM
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I ain't angry. My life is pretty sweet and I'm actually a very chill dude. The most common criticism I receive is that I'm too laid-back. Granted, I am living the "red pill dream" and I live in the middle of nowhere so I can shut out all the modern nonsense and noise of the outside world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 02:03 PM
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Who did you cheat on him with?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:56 PM
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The actual issue is consistency. If she makes every guy wait the same amount of time, no issue. But if you're the only guy she's making wait then GTFO. Unfortunately, we do not live in a just world though and there is no such thing as "fairness" when it comes to sex and romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:47 PM
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No need to take it to such an extreme. As long as you have your eyes wide open, you can still make the best of the situation. You just shouldn't buy the whole cow. If you can only get women who are using you, then turnabout is fair play.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:43 PM
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Careful now, you're in danger of thawing this old cynic's cold cold heart!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:38 PM
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Absolute BS. You've just moved the goalposts by saying it's comparatively easiER than something else irrelevant that wasn't being discussed. Just admit that your original assertion - that it is easy PERIOD - is wrong and stop with the mental gymnastics. Go on, you can do it and I'll think better of you if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:14 AM
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Of course. "I liek bobs and vagene". Works every time 👌
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:32 PM
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I'm not complaining - I think you have the wrong person. I'm just pointing out your factual inaccuracy, that "it's not that difficult". If you have an argument to the contrary, I'm all ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:28 PM
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Disagree. In general, women have lower libidos than men so finding women who prioritize sex is difficult. If you do manage to find such a woman, there's no way of finding out or bringing up the subject without coming across as a creep or an asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 11:21 PM
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Thumb in the bumhole? Kinky!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:48 PM
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How many of y'all's partners know you participate on this sub? My wife is starting to get suspicious at my furious typing and laughing out loud often when I'm on my laptop. She's normally just used to hearing me groan loudly then cry while thoroughly disgusted with myself for half an hour instead... In all seriousness, how did any of you explain spending your time arguing on the internet with sexual deviants and socially awkward autists about why the opposite gender are assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:41 PM
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Anal or GTFO!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:31 PM
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The latest one that's grinding my gears is "tell me you're <x> without telling me you're <x>"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:30 PM
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Or she's just really horny and insatiable and doesn't care where she gets it as long as she gets it!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:20 PM
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Okay I understand better now. That's not as bad as it seemed. I'm sure you'll be able to find men who are fine with that. I wouldn't be one of them though, to give you your first data point for your research. Perhaps you needn't disclose at all either. I mean, he probably wouldn't be able to tell and you'll almost certainly "get away with it". Maybe being really into him sexually as a person is actually "better" than being sexually into him for his looks? Or maybe it all amounts to the same thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 09:41 PM
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How can you have sex with someone you're not attracted to? Are you literally thinking of other women while you lay back or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 07:08 PM
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So you're not willing to disclose, therefore you are deceiving and using. Thanks for confirming. No amount of hamstering can ever justify this shitty behavior despite your best efforts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:26 PM
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But unless you tell him you're not physically attracted to him, you're deceiving and using him to your ends. You have not yet stated that you are willing to disclose this to him. Set the record straight if I am wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 06:16 PM
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I'm physically only attracted to women How is that not using and deceiving a man you get into a relationship with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:50 PM
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Yes, I was trying to help your hypothetical male partner come to terms with a shitty deal. And to help you increase the odds of finding such a willing chump male partner. not a fan of getting in a relationship only to be used sexually But you're perfectly willing to use and deceive a man yourself just to get what you want and be in a relationship 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:39 PM
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I think most men who settle in that way are forced to settle, i.e. it's either an unenthusiastic partner or a lifetime of complete loneliness. In that case, I would imagine that those men actually would be nonetheless grateful and wouldn't be sucking it up. But there is also a large subset of men who could have other options but inadvertently found themselves with a woman not into them because they 1) initially misread the signs, 2) were actively deceived by the woman, or 3) had her attraction i…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:31 PM
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Hey, just trying to help a hypothetical brother out!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:15 PM
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Poor social skills and not understanding nuance. I knew plenty of ugly motherfuckers when I was younger who slayed because they were socially well-adjusted, confident, happy, extraverted, funny and interesting. They also got plenty of rejections precisely because they were ugly but they didn't let it bother them - water off a duck's back. They didn't whine and cry "boohoo, the mean girl said something mean to me, I need to call my therapist". No, they just dusted themselves off and went back to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:08 PM
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The two are highly correlated.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:03 PM
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I'm late 40s. What does the delusion of young women due to abundance have to do with anxiety and worrying about the possibility of being called creepy by silly mean girls?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 05:00 PM
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I don't understand how that has anything to do with what I'm saying, but... sure? Isn't that obvious common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:47 PM
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Christ. I'm probably not the right person to ask. I'm assuming you're a woman? I guess "honesty is the best policy" in this case. Then he can make an informed decision as to whether he can live with that. My opinion (since you asked) is that you shouldn't deceive him or lie by omission, especially if you suspect he won't want to continue the relationship. That's completely unfair. Maybe you can dangle the carrot of potential threesomes (the cool kind!) as a sweetener haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:45 PM
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What you say is also perfectly reasonable. But I wasn't talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:39 PM
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In what way? I don't understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:38 PM
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Very well, Poppy the Wise!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:30 PM
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There's the common view within red pill circles that women amalgamate the superlative features from all their exes into one "MegaChad" that all future partners have to compete with and measure up to. If you aren't the best in at least one area, you're toast!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:21 PM
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Yes, of course. Unfortunately, that nuance will not register with many of the male members of this sub though.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:17 PM
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Oh, definitely personality, confidence, frame, extraversion, etc. too. As you say, things in common. If they all had absolutely nothing in common whatsoever, I don't think there'd be anything to worry about.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:14 PM
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Plenty of women on this sub for starters. No-one in real life, granted, but then I don't discuss this shit in real life - it's my shameful, dirty secret! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:11 PM
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Which is why it's especially important for a man to not get himself into this situation if he doesn't want a lifetime of dead bedroom and resentment!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:09 PM
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Yes, you and I know what it actually means. But they completely misapply "everyone settles" to this situation and argue that men should suck it up and just be grateful for a relationship even if she doesn't find him attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 04:05 PM
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Agreed. Sometimes, though, that's a male competitive ego thing going on. It really does feel great when a woman tells you you're the best she's ever had, believe me. Of course, it's irrational and stupid, but I'm only human. But, more commonly, I think men are concerned with measuring up to her exes to gauge just how much she REALLY finds him attractive due to the fact that women do settle and, furthermore, LIE about settling too. If you're nothing like her exes, it's a good bet you're not actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:59 PM
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Except every time I mention it, someone does. 🤷‍♂️ With the reason being "everyone settles, grow up".
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:49 PM
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But apparently it's "immature", "insecure" or "unreasonable" for a man to not want to be settled for by a woman who doesn't find him attractive... As many of you know, this is my hill and I'm prepared to die on it! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:32 PM
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Seriously. Are there any men on this sub who actually aren't autistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 03:29 PM
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Women do have diverse tastes, but nowhere near as diverse as men. A lot of struggling men want a quick fix to achieve sexual/romantic success - a spoon-fed plan/script/algorithm to follow. Unfortunately, it's not that simple, because we are humans, not robots. However, there IS a type of man that achieves success with the plurality of women (N.B. plurality, not majority), and that is.......... Chad. So they focus and obsess over him and try to emulate him and find out what his "secret" is. He's …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 12:58 PM
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A lot of the members of this sub have autism. The women too.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:29 AM
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I completely agree. Most men are completely lazy with that kind of stuff, which often falls on women. We are actually perfectly capable of doing all that stuff though, and even competently. My observation is that women (in general) are simply better at it though - more competent, more efficient and quicker. Whether that's down to nature or nurture, however, is another debate!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:17 AM
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<Climbs soapbox> "Gentlemen, once again..." Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/papi4w/study_shows_men_rate_feeling_desired_by_their/ha67nj4/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 10:09 AM
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Also women: why did that asshole give up so easily? He was supposed to know I wanted to be pursued!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 09:55 PM
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So if women find 80% of men undesirable, that means 80% of relationships begin with the woman not being attracted to her man? Physically attractive? Correct. Especially as more women today have access to hot guys for casual and many take full advantage of the opportunity. But women compromise on raw attraction for other comfort/security traits (beta traits) instead when it comes time to "settle down". How is that an ideal female prerogative? It's not. At all. This is one factor in why so many wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:58 PM
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🤢 Please tell me you're yanking my chain!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 08:23 PM
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Being able to fuck young Chads =/= being able to have a committed LTR with a "HVM"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 07:49 PM
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I'm not trying to gotcha here or imply that it was a conscious decision, but do you think there's a chance you might not have offered to help him if he wasn't taking care of his mom, i.e. a woman was ultimately benefitting? Or, say, he hadn't already served his country and protected the way of life and freedom for women? Just wondering if things like that might unconsciously affect women's decision process, i.e. if "empathy" is actually quid pro quo?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 06:11 PM
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It is important. But the ONLY way of knowing FOR SURE is if she does fuck you, and enthusiastically. Not necessarily on the first date, but early on. Everything else is ambiguous and open to interpretation, unfortunately. Women always make sure they leave plausible deniability for IOIs. You simply cannot know for sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:42 PM
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A very long time ago, in my young and wild days I did occasionally cheat. Why? Because I young, foolish and had options, quite simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/21 04:33 PM
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😂
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:11 PM
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Just a kindred spirit!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:02 PM
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My wife is a really great cook. We're nearly always disappointed with the food when we go out to dinner, so we prefer not to go out very often. And we can't abide pretentious expensive places either, where they serve you mouse-sized portions and you leave hungrier than when you arrived!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:56 AM
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I'm a handsome man and I've only ever dated (attractive) fat girls my whole life. By choice. 🤷‍♂️ And I'm 6-6-6-6 too. Hope that doesn't trigger anyone!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 08:50 AM
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Oh yeah. I would like to clarify for the record that I may be a chubby chaser, but they also have to be hot. That should go without saying really!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:27 PM
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True enough. But doesn't apply in this case. The main defenders of prostitutes are women, who are not the ones receiving the product.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:08 PM
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Forgive me, I'm being thick - you're continuing the gender reversal thing! 🤦 Need coffee...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:05 PM
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I'm apparently top 0.1%. My wife lied to me, she told me I was one in a million 😢
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 11:03 PM
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Implants. There is nothing immutable for a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:52 PM
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I thought the dowry is supposed to come from the bride's family?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:51 PM
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Emma was a very unlikeable protagonist and a stupid interfering bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:50 PM
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But then are all men angry at fat women incels? Probably. I've never actually heard a man angry at fat women in real life. Or online for that matter. But then I don't use social media or know any incels. This subreddit is my guilty pleasure - I came for the intellectual debate (ha!) on intersexual dynamics, but stayed for the drama!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:37 PM
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In Russia. Asleep!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:30 PM
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I'm just spitballing here... My guess? There isn't an "obsession". This is Reddit. Reddit is very very far from representative of normal society. A backlash of sorts against the whole "body positivity" movement from women telling men that they have to find fat women attractive or else they're all evil misogynists or something. Men are collectively responding with fuck that noise. Going back to point number 1 again, incel-type men who are outraged that even fat women won't fuck them. They want fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:23 PM
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Short men being unattractive is weird and toxic IMO. He can't help it. Turnabout is fair play.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:14 PM
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Some of us make no secret about it! 🙂 But I disagree, most men are not attracted to fat women. Many will simply take all they can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 10:04 PM
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I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and take her word that she's just having a bad day. Thanks though :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:10 PM
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Clearly you're not in the mood. That's not very nice though, calling her a pickme without any grounds to. Whatever is wrong today, I hope you manage to work it out and feel better tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 09:04 PM
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Have I missed something here? I didn't think there was any beef between us? It wasn't really much of an exchange either lol!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 08:58 PM
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Oh cool, I've been married for 16 years too! Yeah, genuinely glad yours is working out. Ours is equally working very well for us. As they say, you do you 🙂
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:07 PM
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Not sure where you got that from "her choice", but whatever...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 07:04 PM
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That's why we have lawyers and courts and divorce settlements and alimony to apportion a fair division of assets in the case of marital dissolution. Hypothetically, in my case, as she doesn't work, my wife would get alimony and half of "my" pension for life. As she should because that's her fucking money too that she enabled me to earn. And, before you ask, it was her choice to be a stay at home mom and "depend" on me. It's not for everyone, but you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:30 PM
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I'm continuing his fine work of spreading the gospel. God's work.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:21 PM
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😂 Haha, it does sound pretty cringe - like couples wandering around wearing matching outfits with their hands tucked into each other's back pockets. I'm sure you get what I mean though. Why would you have conflict over money? Whatever money I bring in is ours and vice versa. One of the things I vetted for in a wife is financial responsibility so I don't even have to think about, let alone worry about, her spending. It's her money too, she can buy whatever the fuck she likes. For any major purcha…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:19 PM
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What's right with it? Seriously, I don't get it. Why even be married if you're not going to become one person?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 05:05 PM
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if they do not plan or contribute to the courtship by the 3rd date. Notice how every single woman here is ignoring this important part of the sentence and only responding to the first part.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:55 PM
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God, I'm glad I'm not young any more...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:49 PM
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I also don't get it when married couples (even with kids) maintain separate finances. Like, what is the point in even being married?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:36 PM
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I'm curious how many women get unsolicited men trying to open chats with them? Especially to rant at them. It must be quite a problem on this sub I imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:33 PM
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Second to last woman categorized as a 3 looks mighty fine to me 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:29 PM
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I think most rapists do it for the whole power and control aspect. Pretending to enjoy it might backfire with those guys because you "ruined" it for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:25 PM
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There are people out there that don't do this? Fuck me, relationships really have become mercenary these days...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:21 PM
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Yes. But there is definitely something arousing hearing a woman moan "Ay Papi" though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:19 PM
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Alas, you could barely describe my wife as chubby, never mind a fatty. I'll try feeding her pork instead!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:43 PM
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How the fuck can it be manipulation by the man to fuck a woman at the height of her attractiveness. She litteraly has all the power. /thread
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:20 PM
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He's outsourced his work to me as the new resident chubby chaser
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:05 PM
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TIL my wife is a homosexual man
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 10:00 PM
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But there are freaks like me who actually like cellulite. Some of us much prefer real women (not that women who don't have cellulite aren't real, but you know what I mean...)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:58 PM
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With my hemorrhoids I could probably rent out my ass to a couple of families to live in quite comfortably. I could do with the extra cash right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:45 PM
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This. Yet women can't seem to understand why men care a lot (and read a lot into) how women treat them in the bedroom. It's the only surefire way to tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:37 PM
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vet out men who aren't attracted to you Serious question here - when you say attracted to you, do you mean holistically as a person? Because if they're taking you out to dinner they obviously think you're physically attractive enough to want to bang you at least. I think there might be a gendered difference of understanding here if women tend to define "attracted" as the former, but men the latter.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:33 PM
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Most men don't get enthusiastic sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:26 PM
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No. Once again, gentlemen, DO NOT allow yourself to be settled for.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 09:25 PM
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Yep, see my edit for correction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:52 PM
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I agree, of course. But then why did you first say they could buy it? Knowing full well that simply nutting isn't what these men want. You often offer a lot of simple reductionist suggestions ("just" do x, "just" do y) that doesn't actually pass scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 06:47 PM
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The bloops are getting ever more creative at trying to get the terps to doxx themselves! Don't answer, it's a trap! 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:58 PM
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It absolutely is if you're having none at all. Men are judged (by men AND women) for being sexually unsuccessful. When you say "right", are you agreeing with my point, or is that a sarcastic eye-rolling "riiiiight"? That a man who gets some sex is, all other things being equal, happier than a man getting none at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:49 PM
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I'll elaborate. Men who get sucked in to the red pill are usually, at best, struggling with sex/dating or, at worst, social misfits, losers, virgins, incels, etc. These men are usually having zero sex at all and are angry and miserable. They discover the red pill and manage some kind of self-improvement (confidence, dress, lifting, etc.) and then manage to get some sex, even if very infrequently. Even if they are not completely transformed into a happy, chilled-out non-misogynist dude, they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:32 PM
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so they can have sex men’s... happiness Erm, I'm sure they'd be a lot less happy having no sex at all, ever...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 05:05 PM
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Question: Isn't what is really going on here that women just don't like male sexuality being expressed by "unattractive" men, i.e., men they don't want to fuck? Of course that's what's going on. That's the crux of all these matters usually. It's just a giant shit test. Don't listen to that noise or allow yourself to get worked up by it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:43 PM
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I actually did this in my younger days (not paid for though). I deliberately took my hot female friends out with me and got them to pretend to be all over me in front of other hot girls. It achieved the results I wanted. Social proof works, folks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:13 PM
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You're right. Please see my discussion with Narnia for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:07 PM
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You think you can buy genuine love and intimacy? Or just an imitation of it? If the former, you've solved the loneliness/sexlessness problem for loser men - please share the secret of how to do it with the group!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:05 PM
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Probably. I don't know the exact definitions - I don't describe myself as red pill. It's very difficult for most men to get, because most men are not attractive to women. Even to average and below average women. That's not to say that they're necessarily unattractive, but "meh" doesn't a woman's panties wet either.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 04:01 PM
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I like that :-) If she's very attracted to you, you're a Chad to her, yes. And that's all that matters really at the end of the day. But, unfortunately, most men will never experience a woman being insanely attracted to them. There may very well be a woman out there whose type he is and sends her wild, but the odds are low on finding her the less conventionally attractive he is. I think we both know that "Chad" isn't a monolith, though, nor are all women (probably not even most) attracted to him…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 03:35 PM
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Yeah, I don't believe it's only the top 20% either which is why I didn't say that. I said she has to be very sexually attracted to him. As you say, women are attracted to all sorts, but realistically (probabilistically), it's not going to be Billy Beta so it is effectively the top <whatever> percent of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:21 PM
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You are probably more educated about poly relationships than me, especially if you are interested in it. As I said, I'll take your word for it. Most people on Reddit are just plain old freaks, rather than freaky! 😂 The only women who are freaky for their men are ones who are very sexually attracted to their partners. That means Billy Beta is never getting freaky sex, so it is an achievement. Looks like I've triggered some poly person too, my comments are getting downvoted haha!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 02:11 PM
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Is make-up? Breast implants? Foodie calls? "Withholding" sex to pretend to be a good girl? Bait and switch? FDS tactics?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:55 AM
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I'll take your word for it. But all the documentaries I've watched about polyamory involve a woman having a harem of men (sometimes living together), none of whom fuck each other and they just "take turns" with the woman. Like reverse Mormons! And they are all jealous as fuck and essentially miserable, but just put up with it because they don't think they have any other options. Anyway, do you agree or disagree with my assertion "women who are sexually "freaky" to his benefit are rare and prized…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:47 AM
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Yeah, you're right there. Most men aren't into polyamory because, in practice, it usually equates to polyandry and being cucked and all the stress, jealousy and misery that accompanies it. You know what I mean though. Women who are sexually "freaky" to his benefit are rare and prized. And he needs to be Chad (or situational Chad) to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:33 AM
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They're mad because parents are teaching them what women find attractive for LTRs (i.e. how to be good little betabuxxes in their 30s) instead of what women actually find SEXUALLY attractive, which will provide them the tools for both AF and BB.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:23 AM
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Even as a man, I know this. What a dumb question!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:12 AM
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Obtaining "women who are into open relationships, polygamy or polyamory" requires a man to be Chad because these women are rare and prized. Even within niche subcultures, the man still has to be Chad within it. It absolutely is an achievement. Edit: I mean more finding sexually adventurous women (that is beneficial to the man) is hard to find for a non-Chad, rather than finding a poly woman. See rest of thread with Narnia for clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 11:06 AM
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women may need to place themselves in men's shoes 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:58 AM
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These men can't buy intimacy and love from a prostitute, which is what they really want (as well as smashing, of course).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:26 AM
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No offence to the OP, but what makes you think cool girls will want to hang out with him? A lot of these men are very socially awkward, introverted, high-inhibition and uninteresting. I'm sure it was completely unintended, but a lot of these reductionist "just do x and y" solutions aren't very helpful to them and are probably quite frustrating. The real solution here would be making such a guy introspect on why cool girls (and boys) don't want to hang out with him and would basically require a p…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:23 AM
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I wouldn't say men are judged on their sexual success, more on their noticeable lack of sexual success within the confines of what is "normal".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/21 10:05 AM
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My wife is extremely red pill and tradcon. Although where we're from (Bumblefuck, USA), that's just known as normal!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:04 AM
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To me, "strong independent woman" is usually synonymous with loud, vulgar, brash, opinionated†, obnoxious, provocative and just generally unpleasant in my long life of experience of women who self-describe as such. Which obviously means that interacting with them is not a positive experience. This, however, is NOT a gendered thing - I find men exhibiting those negative attributes equally unpleasant to be around too. † I would like to point out that I have no problem with women having opinions. W…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:16 AM
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Nuttin' Fixed that for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:02 AM
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How on earth do you draw this conclusion from the pictures? You have no idea about the relationship status of any of these people. It's more likely that most of the young men are single, just like everywhere else in the world. Did you also see the pictures of the fathers desperately lifting their daughters over the airport wall to get them to safety? Or did you just ignore that because it inconveniently goes against your crazy narrative? This sub is fucking nuts...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 10:31 AM
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She is ugly. It's not the fatness (I actually like 'em chubby), it's the face. Her personality definitely makes her uglier too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:32 PM
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Yes, BUT... The men who shame are the the ones who can't compete and are wailing "it's not fair". If the situation was reversed onto women instead, they'd be wailing it's not fair too. Don't deny it. The husband leaving his wife for a younger woman I disagree with this, though. Men don't leave their wives unless she has given him a reason to - such as she got fat, turned into a nagging shrew, etc. Men generally will just cheat on their wives on the down low, they don't leave them. Women are the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:27 PM
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Massive betas. Most men seduced by radical Islamic ideology (or any radical ideology really) are disaffected misfits and incels. They can't compete in the sexual marketplace so they want to 1) punish women and restrict their choices and 2) ensure they get a "fair" shake of the sauce bottle by enforcing monogamy (and polygamy for men only).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/21 05:17 PM
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Who the hell would want to live the life of option B? How on earth is that a happy or fulfilling life? Sure, it might be fun for a small amount of time just to experience it, but as a permanent lifestyle? Not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:31 PM
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Okay sure, those are certainly reasonable circumstances to want to raise children in. However, my first was born before we were married and owned a home and the sky didn't fall in! It certainly accelerated our plans for them though! Good luck with it all anyway :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:36 PM
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That is genuinely pleasantly surprising, thanks for the clarification! It tallies with my own life observations and experiences, but you start to doubt yourself once you start reading this sub too much... I do wonder what effect removing the male virgins ("sexually experienced men") had on the figures though. I'm sure we can agree there's a whole lot more of them than virgin women!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:27 PM
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Take it from experience, there's no good time to have a child. If you're putting it off until the timing is right, there'll always be reasons not to. I've had children through various states of financial circumstances, my children raised through the "lean" times were no less happy, which is all that matters in the end. Don't put it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:22 PM
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Haha, good guys finish last, eh! "Don't you see sweaty, you won in the end..."
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:10 PM
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Abomination! I'm not a GNP aficionado for nothing you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:03 PM
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No woman is ever truly "single" in the way most men are. I assume for sexual partners you're using the average number (the mean) of partners for each sex. And we all know it's not distributed evenly among men - the median for men is a lot lower than for women. It's feast or famine for men, with the vast majority in the latter category.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:57 PM
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Women only have agency when it's convenient and beneficial to them according to feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 07:37 PM
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AVERAGE women have a similar number of previous sexual partners to average men - if it's higher it's only by a handful. They will also have none of the issues/baggage that you describe. They aren't out there riding the carousel. It's serial monogamy with maybe a couple of hookups in between. Same as for guys. However, the types of women that men on this sub obsess over and actively chase will have a much larger body count and a host of issues/trauma that you will have to suffer. Go figure. Norma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:44 PM
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Careful, the incels/autists will take it literally...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 06:23 PM
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Poor women like masculine men. Effeminate UMC pussies won't stand a chance with her. She'd much rather remain poor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:12 PM
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Average men are beginning to refuse to be settled for by women in their 30s who've "had their fun" while he has had none.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:05 PM
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The mods at r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen are trying to be smart by making sure they adhere to every single one of Reddit's rules. But it's only a matter of time before they get banned too - they'll find a way to "get" them somehow.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 06:01 PM
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That's an "old fat woman"? I think I need to get my prescription checked for my eyeglasses again...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:28 PM
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Women "attempt" suicide more to seek attention as a cry for help. Men actually go through with it more because they mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:26 PM
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25 years, on and off. 6'3", 200 lb, 10-13% BF (depending on season)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:23 PM
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Those men still like their creature comforts and will work for it. From what I've observed, the only creature comforts the types of men on this sub who can't get any require are a gaming console, something to watch porn on and a ready supply of chicken tenders. Those can be achieved on a very low wage!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:20 PM
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Yes, but whatever the figure was, it was the same for women - it was "fair"<sup>†.</sup> That is most certainly not the case today. <sup>†</sup> There is obviously no such thing as fairness in these matters, but you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 05:12 PM
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Can confirm. In my younger tomcat days before Mrs. GNP, there was a period where I had multiple women on the go at the same time. I didn't value it. The sex was GREAT, don't get me wrong, but it began to feel like too much hard work. The sex wasn't enough of a compensation. Dealing with just one woman is enough of a problem, but with many it multiplied exponentially rather than linearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 05:09 PM
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Of course, I probably worded that clumsily. I meant more that if you properly prioritize and focus on finding your life partner when you're younger, you are going to have a much higher quality pool of men to vet from. Same for men really. But young women to have the added advantage of their market value being highest due to their youth and beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:42 PM
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autocuck 😂 Genuinely just spit out my drink laughing at that, no idea why!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:33 PM
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All the more reason for women to be sensible and get their vetting done in your youth while the odds are good instead of in their 30s when the goods are odd. Of course, this may require forgoing a certain amount of "fun" and resisting the temptation of hotter, more exciting guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:27 PM
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To me it seems like they enjoy it because it allows them to pedestal and adore her easier. There are certainly men like that. They are overrepresented here (well, before they all found the red pill at least), but I don't think they're as common IRL as you think. This sub is nuts. If you're maintaining a masculine or feminine "persona", you're making a rod for your own back and also deceiving your partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 09:06 PM
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I don't think men "enjoy" feminine mystique, but we are definitely raised to accept and respect that it's a thing to explain women's capricious nature and not ask any questions. And yes, it's definitely the easy option to "believe the pretty lies" and not peer behind the curtain too much. Bear in mind I'm middle-aged though. I don't know if this is still the case these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 08:17 PM
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Billy Beta has the option not to live with a woman Not for very long before she demands "where is this going"? If he refuses to cohabit, he'll get dumped and then he'll have a dry spell (literally) of months to potentially years while he tries to find a new relationship. If he cares that much about puss I doubt even a woman would want to involuntarily go without dick for potentially years. But that's not a problem women face. They can get as much sex as they want or need between relationships, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 05:11 PM
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I'm glad there's at least one other chubby chaser on this sub!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:56 PM
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Single parent households are often caused by Chad bouncing who never lived with her in the first place! It's punishing the wrong men as ever. Billy is perfectly willing to do the right thing and "play house" to get some vagene because it's his only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:35 PM
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The very first episode of the first season drops some major truth bombs. Those gays know exactly what's going on! See the transcript here and scroll to the part labeled "Cut to gym".
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:24 PM
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A bit of a fun, non-serious topic for the weekend: CMV: The co-habitation laws in Canada are a "pussy tax" for betas I've just realized that the crazy Canuck law that if you've been living together for a year you're treated the same as a married couple is a de facto tax on pussy for betas. The one where you can get "divorce raped" without even being married and where the other party can get half your shit, you're on the hook for child support for a kid that isn't biologically yours and also to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 12:54 PM
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As a man in a traditional roles marriage, yes I agree with you on some points. But they do work very well (for both parties) for some of us at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:46 PM
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Not all women have "many suitors" to start with Compared to some other women? Perhaps. But compared to the vast majority of men, absolutely they do. My point is that women have the opportunity of experience of many more partners than men do - they are able to "get through" many more potential candidates than men much more quickly to find their life partner and settle down earlier. But only if that is her focus, rather than having "fun". I've never even been into casual scene. It's not that I had…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 12:41 PM
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It doesn't matter if it is shallow or it isn't. You'll never win the argument. All that does matter is men's preferences = bad and women's preferences = good.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 05:41 PM
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If you propose that dating is the same as economics, then the solution to reduce "inequalities" in both is simply, as ever, incentives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:52 PM
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I am a middle-aged conservative man and I am neither red pill nor blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:33 PM
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I disagree. Women do have it easier in looking for LTRs but ONLY if they are sensible enough to choose among their many suitors the most suitable person they are compatible with thinking of the long term rather than chasing tingles and hotness. This is equally applicable to men too, but they have access to fewer "temptations". Unfortunately this is increasingly rare among young women today because it requires wisdom (perhaps beyond their years) and self control because they have so much more acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 04:24 PM
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I say life isn't fair to both situations equally and don't believe in any kind of "redistribution" for either. So I'm not a hypocrite personally. But you won't convince the women here. If you bring up economics, they'll just say that's different.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 03:59 PM
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Men don't give a shit. If anything, it might make you more attractive to some men who think they might now have a shot that they wouldn't otherwise. Although those men probably have issues, so probably not a "plus" on your side. And you're likely to attract fetishists as well. No, the only two questions I think men would ask regarding disabilities are: Will she need caring for? (Which women would also ask of men in the same situation) Can she still fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 09:00 AM
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I understand now. Thanks. And sorry! Yes, obviously it wouldn't work out between us haha :-) But I would like to emphasize that I am there to listen to my wife's needs, that's what I partly mean by being her rock. She just doesn't need those services from me very often as she is similarly stoic. But I don't need the same from her, nor would I want to burden her as I would see it as a sign of weakness and she would find it unmasculine and unattractive. I have no idea what the modern "standard" is…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:03 PM
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It's an empty platitude doled out to keep the betas from leaving the plantation. Often said by women to men because they don't want to tell them the truth about their shortcomings. That's apparently "emotional labor" or something. The same as when they say "it'll just happen when you least expect it". No, it "just happens" for women, who are the approached sex and passive selectors. Men have to MAKE it happen for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:52 PM
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For sure, I get you. I'm sort of "tradcon" by happenstance, but it's not an ideology I cling to - it just works for me and my wife. I've always been aware of the "true nature" of women though. I've no doubt that if I were a young man and had to do it all again today I would definitely be red pill or MGTOW.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:44 PM
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Apologies for being a bit slow, but I don't understand your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:40 PM
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Rollo's blog. The address is in the link of that picture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:37 PM
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Honestly, I just don't need to "share my feelings" with her or anyone, I'm fine dealing with them myself. So is she, most of the time. All I need from her is to be cheerful and pleasant and make my favorite meal if I am having a bad day, not to be a therapist. No, I just like 'em thicc :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:31 PM
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Regarding leadership, if anything it's actually selfish on her part. It's a heavy weight of responsibility for me and she enjoys knowing that she can completely trust me and doesn't have to worry about difficult decisions. Of course, she is always consulted and informed and offers her own opinions and advice. But she WANTS me to take that under advisement and make the decision myself. 99% of the time we always agree anyway. It's just that she is naturally indecisive and a "ditherer" who worries …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:14 PM
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The whole motto of the red pill is "enjoy the decline".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:53 PM
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Okay, off the top of my head: I am entirely responsible for financial provision. She is responsible for enabling and supporting this by being in charge of the house and childcare. I am expected to take full advantage of this support to work extremely hard and long hours and be driven and ambitious and to constantly pursue success in my career. That does not mean I do not do any household chores or childcare, merely that she is responsible for delegating and assigning any tasks which she usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:39 PM
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I...wouldn't say that traditional gender roles are egalitarian in most cases. But do you think they can be? Or am I automatically controlling, financially abusing and infantilizing my wife no matter what the circumstances? That is, it must be black and white? A "good man" cannot be a traditional man? I'm not into "traditionally masculine men" either, but maybe I have a screwed view on them Ah, I forgot that there is the Russian cultural context to consider for you. I normally detest the term "to…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:08 PM
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So, to take your example of cooking, you divide at least some roles up according to each of your strengths. Would you agree that a relationship based on traditional roles can also be egalitarian then, if each of us are playing to our relative masculine and feminine strengths and we each ENJOY our roles? (For anyone else lurking, before you pile in - NO, I do not mean having "power" or "control" over my wife or "treating her like a doormat", etc.) If you had the opportunity (enough to live off on…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:35 AM
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I notice you used the word egalitarian rather than "equal". Is that because you recognise that there is no such thing as true equality of roles due to biological sex differences despite whatever the latest wave of feminists would have us believe?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:11 AM
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You've got it completely the wrong. The list is as follows: Top tier men ALL women All other men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:53 AM
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I can only speak for myself, but my 16-year happy marriage based on traditional gender roles is going pretty great for BOTH of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:50 AM
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It seems all human relationships are merely transactional these days. And people are discarded when they no longer have any utility. We're all going to hell in a handcart...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:34 AM
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"Assortative mating" according to women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 09:27 AM
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Every single young person on the planet needs to read that article and stop whining. Especially people in this sub. It hits the nail right on the fucking head!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:50 PM
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Oh yeah, I've heard that argument from them. They're wrong though. I think there's actually two elements at play here: Women often don't know exactly what they want. They often think they do, but chemistry doesn't lie. Women aren't deliberately deceiving men over this though. And yes, men often also don't know what they want either. Humans gonna human. As the wise u/GridReXX often says, men are asking the wrong questions of women. They inadvertently ask women what they find attractive in a long-…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:29 PM
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Not sure if that was a rhetorical question, but I'll answer anyway! My guess is that men are conditioned to believe in (and respect) "feminine mystique". We (collectively) have no idea what you want or think, nor are we supposed to. Women are supposed to be unknowable enigmas.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 09:04 PM
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Inadvertently perhaps. But I doubt it's conscious or intentional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 08:52 PM
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You can no more encourage women to be less shallow, than a scorpion not to sting a frog. Besides, would you really want a woman who's settling for you and feels like you're beneath her and she should have done better? The sexual revolution, feminism, online dating apps, abundance of thirsty men, etc. - the problem is, the genie's out of the bottle. There's no going back. Enforced monogamy will never return. There's no use complaining. As ever, it's adapt or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:15 PM
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I don't think they're doing it to appeal to other men. I think they are just completely clueless as to what women are looking for in photos/videos and, more importantly, what actively turns them off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 07:02 PM
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Correct. They'll still have to be above average socially or have good game. Those men should then be able to get the same results online that they do in real life without being immediately discarded based on looks alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 06:12 PM
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Interesting. TRP would have us all believe it's 80% who are red. Although I don't doubt 80% of men in this sub actually are red... Do you think most women would agree with your category percentages, give or take?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 05:53 PM
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Of course, if the guy is a red light in looks to her then he has no chance of using any game. But this percentage of guys is much lower than the 80% many guys on here think it is. I think this would make a fascinating post of its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:22 PM
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I think a lot of men these days are using #MeToo as an excuse for not approaching rather than admitting to themselves it's because they're pussies and scared of rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:15 PM
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I've never used it, but this is exactly my impression too. Isn't that just common sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:07 PM
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ASD is highly heritable, so I guess there's an instinctive "yuk" factor for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:04 PM
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I think the trick with OLD video profiles would be NOT to treat it like a job interview, but more like a showreel.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 03:00 PM
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Nope, not sure how you inferred that. What I meant is that you're not going to have a good time on OLD if you can't recognise what women want to see from you/your profile AND be willing to play the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:51 PM
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He just insinuated that it might helps the poor dudes I was implying it might help men who are average or below average in appearance but who still have good game. Online would then (hopefully) yield the same results as they get in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:35 PM
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If men want women to be attracted to them, they have to be attractive (looks and behavior). That's the way it is. I don't know else I can say.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:30 PM
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If dudes don't realise that's what women want to see, that's on them. Non-neurotypical and/or introverted men just aren't going to do well on online dating/apps I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:27 PM
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Both. We were both fully on board with each other's outlook on life, principles and expectations of each other within the relationship. I also didn't turn into a pussy as the years went on like a lot of my buddies so she still finds me very attractive. I think the red pill crowd call this "maintaining my frame". And conversely, she never let herself go physically (neither have I).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:22 PM
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I think someone made a post recently that being able to have a video message on your profile (that you don't have to click through to another page to activate) would help. I think this would be the way to go for the dating apps as it would allow the men to "just showcase your personality, bro" and display what kind of vibe and frame they have. It would be interesting to see if it makes any difference for facially unattractive men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:08 PM
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Wrong. I'm more in love and satisfied with my wife of 16 years than the day I met her. Neither of us has ever cheated, nor wanted to. And yes, we still have very frequent and very satisfying sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 11:22 AM
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^ This
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:24 PM
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I'm new around here and the people don't seem quite... normal... if you know what I mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:22 PM
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You're "judging" the complete opposite point 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:20 PM
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Thank you. You're the first woman who actually responded to the question. Another woman pointed out that this is a minority view, even on this sub. Happy to be corrected. I thought it was mainstream given the previous crazy comments I've gotten! Anyway, this post has been removed by the mods now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 05:15 PM
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Thank you. I didn't want to correct her, you know what she's like...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:59 PM
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That's what I'm trying to determine - is it just a small minority of women on this sub? No-one has yet said "no, women don't get annoyed" or the opposite yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:56 PM
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Sure. But I'm asking if you're accusing me of "hate"? If so, please point out where.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:54 PM
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I agree. But those men are not the topic. It's related, sure, but still whataboutism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:48 PM
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Probably. There are crazy people everywhere. No one gender has a monopoly on that. But I am not a "manospherian" nor do I represent them. Should I attribute everything you say as representative of FDS?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:34 PM
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Those are loser men/borderline incels who can't get a woman otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:31 PM
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if you’re whining and hating Do you mean men in general, or me personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 04:28 PM
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Indeed. But I assume you wouldn't give a pejorative label to a "shallow uggo" woman though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:11 PM
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Possibly, although there's no guarantee. Women's attraction towards men is relative to other men. They also have a "minimum threshold" for looks. Even if you're objectively several points hotter than her, if you're still not attractive in general, she probably still won't get wet for you. Also, just because a person is ugly themselves, it doesn't mean they are any more likely to find fellow ugly people any more attractive than the rest of us.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 03:04 PM
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Women are attracted to and fall in love with his fun, exciting, spontaneous alpha traits. She then tells him he needs to "mature" and "settle down" and become more beta. He duly does as he is told and (lo and behold!) he is surprised she is no longer attracted to him and her vagene is drier than the Sahara. A story as old as time itself. It's A LOT of constant, ongoing work and effort to keep a woman attracted to you. Only you can decide whether it is worth it. And, of course, if she was never a…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/21 10:16 AM
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You are right it is very common. So why is it wrong for men to test for this? Women settle and women lie. All the time. I'm just advocating for men to be sure that it doesn't happen to them is all. If sex is the only guaranteed indicator of love for you You misunderstand me. Deliberately perhaps. I've said it's not an indicator of love but of genuine desire to make sure she wants to marry YOU rather than just get married. Sex is great and all (like really really great), but it's not the be-all a…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 11:48 PM
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Heh, if you check my comment history, you'll see I personally DO treat obese women like supermodels :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 11:25 PM
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Nope. It's the only GUARANTEED indicator of genuine desire, which is the only way to be SURE you're not being settled for. All other displays of attraction are ambiguous and can be feigned to keep a guy on the hook when she's settling and merely feels meh about him. "He'll do" instead of "I do". Of course, now you're going to tell me that women never do such things...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 11:23 PM
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Gentlemen, once again, DO NOT allow yourself to be settled for. Otherwise this is exactly what awaits you. Women like this will use you just to check another box off on the "life milestones" list for the social approval of her peers and not give a shit about you or your happiness. If she isn't boning you regularly and enthusiastically while swinging from the chandeliers, this may very well be your future.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 09:10 PM
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Enthusiastic sex is ONLY ever freely given and to top tier men. There is no way to "pay" for enthusiastic sex. You're either worthy of it or you ain't. All other sex is paid for by normal men in some way, including so-called "quality" unenthusiastic sex. All men know this. They don't expect it to be free, but some men (not me, for the record) feel aggrieved at the "unfairness" that women do give "freebies" to Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 06:58 PM
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Women overestimate their RMV based on their SMV. "If Chad will bang me, that obviously means I am at his level and deserve nothing less than him for a relationship". No honey, Chad was just horny and isn't fussy where he scratches his itch. Men overestimate both their SMV and RMV because they think they deserve their "looksmatch". But it doesn't work like that because women don't rate men on a 1-10 scale and his physical attractiveness is only a small part of his SMV/RMV. For women, looks operat…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 12:34 PM
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What is it like being an average invisible woman? Like the vast vast majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/21 09:15 AM
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10% isn't actually that low a BF. I don't maintain 10% all year round, just in the summer. And I am far from the biggest guy in my gym. I don't know what to tell you man. Believe me or don't. And I very clearly didn't say there is an "abundance of 6'3 200lb 10% bf dudes" - you've deliberately misrepresented my words. I said there are plenty of buff dudes out there - guys who are in good shape. And a good subset of them are either attracted to overweight women (like myself) or just don't mind it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:05 PM
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Yes they would. And women would do better to avoid red pill/PUA/pump and dump types. Have you only just learned that women's and men's sexual/romantic strategies are at odds with each other?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 07:06 PM
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I've been in good shape pretty much my entire adult life (6'3", 200lb, abs, 10% BF) and I've always been attracted to the larger lady and exclusively dated them. Not one of them has ever acknowledged any "disparity" or ever felt that I'm out of their league. And the simple reason is because I'm not. There are enough buff dudes out there that it's no big deal for an overweight woman to snag one. Dick is abundant and low value. Just because they are overweight, it doesn't mean they aren't attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 05:56 PM
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Such as me. I like 'em thicccccccc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 11:12 AM
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Well, I am a GNP aficionado after all...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:43 PM
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I'm glad to know Mrs. GNP isn't the last of a dying breed! :-) I wonder if there are, in fact, quite a lot of us left in the real world outside of Reddit, but the demographic of Reddit skews your perception?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:29 PM
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From lashes($100-120), hair($120-200), nails($100-150) clothes, contacts, skincare($90) waxing and vagacials ($115). Hate to break it to you, but if you need to do all that, you're not a beautiful woman... Bracing myself for the tsunami of female fury and downvotes :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:55 AM
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But do you like being traditional in return?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:40 AM
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Actually, I do agree that it is the man's job to do the asking out. It doesn't work (for the woman) the other way around. What I disagree with is your intellectual dishonesty. Instead of saying "it's a man's job to pay for dates" (which is a valid and reasonable view), you instead said that whoever does the asking out pays, admitting later that this should be the man. Instead of owning your real position (which I would have respected), you disingenuously attempted to make it appear more equitabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:36 AM
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But have you ever asked a man out? Let me guess, that's the man's job, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:59 AM
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My kind of gal. If things ever go south with Mrs GNP, good to know some of you are still out there!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 12:55 AM
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Because to be completly honest as long as I'm getting sex from my partner it doesn't really matter if I'm getting it because I'm some giga Chad with a six pack or if I'm getting it because I'm financially secure and perceived as a good provider But you won't be getting sex with the same enthusiasm and desire as Chad gets. It's on a completely different level, believe me. Once you've experienced it, you'll never want to go back. Don't settle for being settled for!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:56 PM
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Women ALWAYS make sure they have plausible deniability with IOIs to save face in case it doesn't go quite as she hoped. You'll never know if it was a genuine IOI until after the fact, one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:51 PM
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Yeah, you're probably right. I realise I'm an outlier. However, I reckon that any woman who WANTS to not work today would be able to because I think there are enough men out there who would be willing and capable of financially supporting a wife. Granted, there aren't that many men out there in this position, but I think that they probably do outnumber the women who want it. What do you think?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 02:41 PM
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Sort of true. According to the recent PPD sub survey, as relatively affluent middle class folks, what we merely consider a "decent" job (that pays enough to afford a "mail order bride" or surrogacy/fertility treatment) is in fact well above average and out of reach for most people. Most men would never be able to afford those options. Yes, women are also competing in the job market but they have the option not to if they wish to take it. Very few women would want to take that option these days (…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 09:12 AM
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enough money Doesn't that mean he'd have to have been at least moderately successful at competing (money, career)?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 08:12 PM
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Any man who can obtain a FWB is clearly not an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 07:55 PM
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Only if it didn't lower my testosterone, which is currently the only way of doing it. Testosterone is fucking awesome!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:39 PM
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"Open relationships" only benefit women, to legitimize cuckolding. She gets to fulfil AF/BB openly while he sits at home crying alone. Chad benefits too, but he will "leverage his options" regardless - with or without permission. Average men who foolishly sign up to this arrangement are in for a world of pain... Edit: downvoters, please explain why I'm wrong. Tell me how an average man will obtain as much benefit as an average woman from an open relationship. An open relationship is for sex. An …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:33 PM
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In which case, they're clearly not "neurotypical"...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:14 PM
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The blue pill subscribes to a just world fallacy though. That if you do everything right, it'll all come good in the end and you'll be rewarded because karma or something. It also subscribes to the view that women are completely wonderful and never do anything shitty. Whereas the red pill believes the opposite of those things. As ever, the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:13 PM
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The male condition is competition. You can either embrace the struggle and become a better man for it, or drop out and whine about it on the internet. You do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:44 PM
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It should be "be the best possible version of yourself". Which, yes, means introspection, stop whining, getting off your ass and making some damn self-improvement to become the best person you can. BP and RP are in complete agreement here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:39 PM
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No idea if I'm alpha or beta. But if beta = "loser", then I'm definitely not that. I am unapologetically a masculine MAN and my wife is attracted to me because of that. There aren't many real men about these days, more's the pity. "Unless a woman has immediate enthusiastic porn star sex with me on the first date there is no real desire and I don't want sex at all" - said by men unable to get sex with anyone. My recent post regarding this was a recommendation for young men today to test for desir…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 01:12 PM
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Is performing a cost-benefit analysis and deciding it's not for you hateful? That's the prevailing attitude I mostly see from the MGTOW crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:58 AM
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Women want a finished product. It's not their problem because they have a plethora of finished products to pick from who "just get it". They don't care because it doesn't affect them in any way. And why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:50 AM
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My guess is that the older men had dating difficulties and never managed to attract a girl their age when they were young, so they feel like they missed out on experiencing women's "best years" from a beauty, fun and lack of jadedness/baggage point of view.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:39 AM
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I'm 6'3" and my wife is 5'0". It works just fine for us and doesn't look or feel ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 09:26 AM
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Women have a VASTLY different definition of friendship compared to men. Any man a woman is attracted to is automatically a "friend"...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:57 PM
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Hahahaha! Pre-nups literally aren't worth the paper they're written on. In nearly every single jurisdiction that adheres to case law judges have thrown them out and made them worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:49 PM
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Normally your comments are quite insightful and fair, but it seems like you are being deliberately obtuse here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:42 PM
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The real question that you should be asking is what is GOOD about marriage for men today? The downsides, as well as the substantial risks FAR outweigh the benefits these days. If I had to start all over again today, I'm not sure if I would do it, truth be told. And this is coming from someone who has a very happy marriage! On your point about finances, in many jurisdictions your assets and pension from BEFORE your marriage are fair game for being divided post-divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:28 PM
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Someone should make a post about this! Oh, wait... :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 04:23 PM
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Don't forget the legumes!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:28 PM
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This whole sub is nuts, man. I've only been here a week, but that's more than enough. I might dip.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 01:04 PM
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Only men's standards are "bad" and "wrong": entitled, shallow, misogynistic, etc. Women's standards are often ridiculously unrealistic but no-one (outside of Reddit) calls them out on them for being inherently wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:49 PM
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Isn't he supposed to gain "wizard powers" or some dumb shit? (Boo, mods made me move my comment under automod!)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 11:25 PM
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"Skill" isn't so much important as sexual compatibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:20 PM
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Men are just as fat as women. And women don't find that so hot either! The difference is, men hold their noses for lack of options. Everyone's fucking fat these days...
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 10:15 PM
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I just saw your schedule you posted. It is important, however, to train each muscle group at least twice a week for maximum effect/efficiency. So fewer sets but a full-body split each workout is more effective than many sets of one or two groups once a week. Not telling you how to suck eggs though, you do you!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:47 PM
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Muscle protein synthesis lasts for AT LEAST one day after working out, even up to 2-3 days if you are relatively untrained. Plus your muscles NEED recovery time in order to repair the damage you inflicted while working out. Work smarter, not harder :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:37 PM
2

Even for a guy who you aren't attracted to facially (he isn't necessarily "unattractive" though)? What about straight-up ugly guys too? Kudos to you if you've got the time to do that alongside the sheer amount of regular sifting through matches!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:18 PM
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Would many women bother clicking the link though, unless they're already slightly interested? I'm not so sure myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:30 PM
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My ears are burning... :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 07:26 PM
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Wait. Are you actually telling women to go on dates with men they don't find attractive out of pity? Would you? The unpalatable truth is simply that women aren't attracted to many men. Nothing will ever change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:41 PM
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So, any others?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 06:06 PM
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If they want a relationship/family or even if they just want a crumb of pussy. Women will lower their standards to some extent for sex as they get older, so they may then get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:53 PM
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There is actually a big overlap between RP and BP in terms of advice on self-improvement which is entirely correct. The bits that are wrong about BP are the Disney fairytale nonsense and belief that the world is just (it's not) and women are entirely virtuous (nope, they're just normal humans). The bits that are wrong about RP are the misogyny, the autistic focus on stoicism and the cringeworthy manipulation tactics (among many other things).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:36 PM
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For me, anything less than BMI of 25 is too skinny. I like 'em built for comfort, not speed! Depends entirely on the man, I think we are much more diverse than women in what we find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:29 PM
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As an old married guy, I've never been on online dating. Can you (or someone else) provide some examples of good and bad male profile photo compositions so I can make a judgement on your view? Or perhaps list some characteristics that make for a bad photo? You've listed one, a mirror selfie. I assume that's bad because it's (1) usually in a bathroom (gross) and (2) it doesn't showcase his personality, friends, hobbies, lifestyle, etc. but is basically a mugshot. Is that about right?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:23 PM
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Women are now (rightly) allowed to choose who they want to have sex with, and do so without repercussions*. Obviously, they therefore choose the best men they can get. And the best option is likely to be above average because above average men aren't fussy who they have sex with. So average and below-average men are SOL and have to wait until she's "ready" for them. *No, "shaming" is not a real repercussion. As much as angry incels may want it to be the case, having a "high" n-count causes no lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 05:12 PM
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Wrong. To a woman, FOMO = "This guy seems great, he pushes all of my buttons the right way but there might be another guy out there who is even better. I'm going to continue "getting to know" other guys on the DL and keep my options open."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 02:39 PM
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Very good point. Women's attraction is RELATIVE to other men. It would just become an arms race to the point where we are all staggering around wearing clown stilts!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:34 PM
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Single mothers expect childless men to MAN UP, be a REAL man, grow a pair etc and take on their children. You'll be hard-pressed to find a childless woman to take on another man's children. They'll say "it's different". It's not different at all. They just don't want to have to personally compete (or her potential future children to compete) for his time, attention or resources with his offspring or deal with any of the same shit from psycho exes, etc. that men don't want to either. You are an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 12:26 PM
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Don't gaslight or lie that it isn't true. Don't tell these poor bastards that it's THEIR fault because of some monstrous personality defect that they don't have, when it's just because they aren't hot. Don't shame them for being sexually/romantically unsuccessful. Just those three points alone would make the situation 80% better for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:16 AM
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This is why it's so important for men to never allow themselves to be settled for - it's asking for a lifetime of resentment, dead bedroom and unhappiness. DO NOT listen to the shaming language from women that you are insecure or immature for not allowing yourself to be settled for because "everyone does it". Men do settle too, yes, but we can genuinely learn to be content and happy with our lot compared to women who will resent that they've ended up with you and make damn well sure you know it.…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/21 09:05 AM
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A long time ago, the exclusivity was assumed because you already knew you liked this person because you spent time with them already. This is a really good point that I hadn't considered. This is why I'm here - to try to understand the reality of how things are for the younger generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:50 PM
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I'm aware of the etymology of the idiom. But that wasn't my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 09:47 PM
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Read the bottom of the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:30 PM
1

Thanks for your comment. But you're an old fart like me - I'm trying to take the pulse of the youth of today! :-)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:03 PM
1

Would you care if they were doing the same to you though?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 08:01 PM
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Isn't the term "spinning plates" just a name given to what (some) women have always done but didn't have a name? That is, just employing the same strategy as women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:55 PM
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Good catch. I will edit the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:46 PM
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I know. It seems like the whole of society has a disposability culture nowadays, including relationships. But everyone always think the younger generation is worse than theirs!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:45 PM
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I'd have thought that no-one wants to feel like a backup. Hence why I think it's selfish. But what do I know?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:41 PM
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Possibly. I sure hope so!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 07:39 PM
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To focus on performative gender traits we must mention societal gender roles No. We did that in the last post (link in OP). If I engage in the discussion of roles in this post, then that's ALL that people will talk about here, completely ignoring performative traits, and it will just become a duplicate of the last post. And I've explained why I won't define the traits. You know what they are, don't be obtuse. But it's not bEiNg A sUbMiSsIvE dOoRmAt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:39 AM
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A great loss if you ask me. The world was a lot better when men were men and women were women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:33 AM
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We're not discussing gender roles here but performative gender traits instead. If you don't know the difference, Google is your friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:31 AM
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Possibly. The loud minority and all that. Although IRL a lot of my friends' wives really do resent any feminine roles or even just being pleasant to their husbands even though they are decent guys. But then again, they've been married a long old time and familiarity breeds contempt.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:25 AM
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Go and comment on the other post then (link in OP) where that is the topic. No-one's stopping you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/21 10:17 AM
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Big brain time. That's what the kids say these days, isn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:42 PM
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Thanks for your detailed response. I think both young men AND women are severely lacking in having their shit together these days. You are obviously seeing it from the woman's point of view though, which is understandable. Modern women’s femininity comes alive in response to masculinity. Oh absolutely. I've experienced it and it is a joy to behold. One thing that the women seem to be deliberately misrepresenting in my post is that I'm somehow demanding women be more feminine without men offering…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:36 PM
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I would argue that a lot of men don't know how to be masculine either these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 11:29 PM
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The woman literally became a different person in the span of 5 seconds It's truly amazing and unbelievable to see it happen. Even more so to experience it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:49 PM
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Of course, it's not for everyone. But we took the decision together (at her request) that this was the best course of action for OUR family. My wife previously did work, but didn't enjoy it and resented paying the equivalent of her entire income for someone else to look after our own children and never seeing them while she grinded away in a job she hated. And when she did work, we had an egalitarian division of household labor. I stepped up and did my fair share. The running of the house is now…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:40 PM
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Women on this thread know exactly what is meant by feminine Of course they know. They are deliberately making up ridiculous and inaccurate definitions instead. It would have been worse if I had provided examples though, where they would have tried tearing every single one of them to pieces as they did in my last post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:24 PM
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Thank you. I'm glad someone else gets it. Of course to bring out her feminine side he needs to be the full masculine package. The women here seem to be building a straw man that I'm demanding women be feminine with men providing nothing in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:18 PM
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I am….at home. Then what the hell are we arguing about? I'm obviously talking about at home in the context of a relationship. I'm not asking why women aren't feminine in the workplace, am I?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 10:05 PM
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If she doesn't do her job, I literally cannot do mine (or would have to pay a lot of money for childcare which would wipe out my earnings). We are a team. A partnership. Sorry to disappoint you that I'm not the misogynist asshole you want me to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:21 PM
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This describes my wife to a tee. She's absolutely not a doormat and you don't want to get on the wrong side of her, believe me! The difference between her and the so-called "strong independent women" of today is that she earns the respect of all those around her and isn't an insufferable shrill bitch.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 09:10 PM
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Read my previous post (link in OP above). You'll see that I have literally put my money where my mouth is. I haven't demanded anything that I am not willing to provide myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:34 PM
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She's dependent on my income. I'm equally dependent on her housekeeping and childrearing in order to earn that income. That's how we both chose to divide the labor in our family rather than 50/50 for each of those things. What the hell does her voluntary "dependency" have to do with the price of fish? How is that relevant to my post?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 07:27 PM
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It's not a double standard or hypocritical because you've rationalized it to not be the case. Classic female strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:25 PM
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According to some women's definitions in here, being "feminine" means to be passive, aversive, helpless, scared, and/or have neuroses related to these things So far, as predicted, it's EVERY woman's definition that it's basically being enslaved to a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:22 PM
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"It's not hypocritical because biology."
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:20 PM
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Yes and no. It's not because they don't want to lose him. Women genuinely WANT to be feminine for above average men. I've experienced it myself. It's like night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 06:18 PM
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Agreed. So "improvement" means men are in effect forced to adhere to performative masculinity. I know no-one cares, that's not the point of the post. The point is in acknowledging that the double standard exists and is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:57 PM
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You've proved my point. Men wanting femininity = "entitled". Women demanding masculinity = not hypocritical or wrong. The double standard exists. QED.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:51 PM
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Do you mean things will only change if HVM demand femininity? They already do. And furthermore, women are only all too happy to oblige. I've seen it with my own eyes my whole life how differently women treat average joes compared to HVM. It's like night and day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:44 PM
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I literally can't win. I deliberately don't provide examples of masculinity/femininity to avoid derailment and instead people make up their own definitions of what they want them to mean...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/21 05:28 PM
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Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 07:47 PM
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An insightful and balanced take.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 06:02 PM
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There are of course things that are hard for the individual to go against There you go, that's the reason they're forced to go along with it. If most all women (hypothetically) thought like this, what chance does such a man have at finding love or having a family without acquiescing?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:46 PM
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I've edited the comment now. Better?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:31 PM
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They’re still punching holes in the dry wall, but now they don’t know how to fix it 😂 Believe it or not, I agree with you (to an extent). Men these days DO need to grow the fuck up and deal with their own shit. But so do women too. Women are outperforming men. We bring MORE to the table Hmmm, I thought there was a gEnDeR pAy GaP though...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:24 PM
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But... but... the gEnDeR pAy GaP or some other bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 05:18 PM
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Sounds about right. Call me old and cynical, but this all seems like one giant societal shit test for men. And they're failing. HARD.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:50 PM
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I think you're probably right, I hope so at least. Not true feminists, no. But I would bet the farm that those that do think this will describe themselves as feminists nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 04:44 PM
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I hope by this you mean that your wife doesn’t have a job. And you are 100% financially responsible while she takes care of the kids and home. Correct. I didn't demand anything I wasn't prepared to provide in return Now can you stop hijacking everyone's comments calling me a liar and implying I'm an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:43 PM
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So correcting a factual inaccuracy about me that would otherwise make me look like a hypocrite is "building a straw man" now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 03:33 PM
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We are indeed blessed, but there was (and still is) a lot hard work on my part too, believe me! I agree, my lifestyle is almost completely out of reach for the younger generation and not a viable option. I completely support egalitarianism and if we weren't able to suffice on one income I would (and did so in the past) do my fair share around the house. In fact, I don't do nothing to help her now, but it's nowhere near 50/50. She actually doesn't like me helping too much as she sees it as "her" …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:37 PM
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I've already replied to your other comment, but please point out where I've said my wife both works and takes care of all the housework? She doesn't work. As was her choice. Which I am happy to support.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:20 PM
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My wife doesn't work. She gave it a go in the past (which I supported), but decided she didn't much like it and dedicated herself full time to raising our children and looking after the home (which I also supported). This suits us both. We are both very happy indeed with the arrangement. When she did work, I took up some of the slack, as was fair. As I said in the OP, I haven't demanded anything of her that I'm not willing to provide myself. I know everyone here wants me to be an asshole, but I'…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:18 PM
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You've summarized the issue far more succinctly than I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 02:01 PM
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Sure. But a lot of men's lives are already unbearable enough as it is these days without asking them to take a further personal hit to their lives "for the cause". The suffragette leaders were mostly comfortable, married, middle/upper class older ladies with not all that much to lose (besides temporary incarceration).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:57 PM
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Thank you for the clarification.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 01:12 PM
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Glad to hear it! Me co-signing that comment was simply asking how the hell men are supposed to push against the gender roles expected of them? If they do raise their head above the parapet, you know what will happen: "misogynist", "incel", "you hate women", etc. and being doxxed and canceled. He certainly won't be able to get a relationship either because she'll just pick another man instead from all her options who will do as she expects.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:49 PM
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Is that still the case though, fellow Gen X-er? Are you still "on the market" and dating younger generation women? Or when you say "modern women" are you talking about women our age with modern attitudes and lifestyles?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:39 PM
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what's you're biggest gripe anyways? (Lack of) Egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:28 PM
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You seem to be conflating "demanding women" with "self-described feminists" You're probably right there. However, those "demanding women" absolutely will describe themselves as feminists still, even if they actually aren't. Regarding your other points, I was just listing some "stereotypical" masculine and feminine roles. I'm sure you get the general thrust of my argument though, rather than dissecting the minutiae? Can I ask about the emotional strength though? I'm from a generation with men rai…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:24 PM
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Oh for sure, good point. I admit I was being lazy and just listing "stereotypical" masculine and feminine roles. I hope you get the general idea though, rather than nitpicking specific points?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:11 PM
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women have to do both, fill in their traditional gender role as in cook, clean, take care of the children and work Yeah, I would agree that's actually the norm among my generation (not that I agree with that either). Roughly how old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 12:04 PM
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Read the damn post again. I don't have dating problems, much as that probably disappoints you to hear. Care to answer my actual question?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:52 AM
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^ This
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:50 AM
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I would say that the expectation for women to work and still do most of the housework/childcare is the norm among my generation (not that I agree with that either), so I know I am an outlier in living a "tradcon" (is that the right word?) lifestyle. But it's definitely not the case for the young 'uns. It's swung completely the other way and is far less egalitarian than even in my day. As I said, I despair...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/21 11:49 AM
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Genuine question: is that your real-life experience with most men? Am I actually an outlier in NOT thinking like that then, despite pussy being pretty damn important to me nonetheless?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:50 PM
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Cool, thanks for your reply. So, would you agree your stance is not representative of the plurality of women then? Not trying to "gotcha", just trying to get a feel for the consensus on this is all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:47 PM
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Genuine question: do you really see finding sex important as PART of a relationship as "sex-obsessed"? I legit like hearing the honestly-held opinions of the "other side". Any other comments on the general premise of the post though? I've acknowledged that it's not in women's best interest to put out from the get go, but do you agree that it's in a man's best interest to see if she does so as an undeniable marker of sexual attraction towards him which can otherwise be faked?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 05:37 PM
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Why is dating the way it is? I didn't ask that. You obviously don't owe me shit, but would you do me a solid and answer the actual questions I did ask?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:39 PM
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Can you translate this from chick-speak to English please?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:20 PM
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Like, we really, really, really know this already. Every woman from age 8-10 knows this. Serious question: why is it so controversial then? Why are so many women on here outraged that men want to get all up inside them? It's not ALL we want. We still value you as actual people and partners too. And we really, really, really, don’t believe that we should put what you want above what we want I never said you should. In fact, I said women should do the opposite. Catering to men's interests will not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 03:15 PM
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The people on this whole sub are fucking crazy man. Men and women. So much autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:40 AM
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Read the OP again. the only reliable way for a man to know for sure that a chick is into him and actually finds him attractive is if she ENTHUSIASTICALLY gives up the goods early on Nowhere have I suggested wanting women to do anything they are uncomfortable with. And yet again, nor did I say the first date. Sure, doing "other" sexual stuff can be a display of desire towards the man, but not always. For some women a BJ might mean absolutely nothing to them and a good way of keeping him on the ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 09:32 AM
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The difference between a friendship and a relationship is the hope of eventual sexual intimacy Obviously being facetious here (before the autists pile in...), but does that then mean that NiceGuy orbiters are actually in relationships with the targets of their obsession? Back on topic though, yeah I agree with you. But if that expected sexual intimacy doesn't eventually manifest itself down the line (however long that may be), then it's NOT a relationship. And the sucker got played big time. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:50 AM
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That escalated quickly. Have a blessed day!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:26 AM
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No need to teach me how to suck eggs, I already know it. I've been happily married for 16 years now. Want to know why I married her? She jumped my bones EARLY ON so I knew she DESIRED me. That and many many other reasons too. And she still can't keep her hands off me after all this time either ;-)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 01:19 AM
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Indeed. Having a blanket first date policy would be fucking retarded. And deservedly unsuccessful for such men. Hence why I never said it. I said "early on" which is open to interpretation. But we're obviously not talking months here either!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:44 AM
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You're absolutely right. It's always naturally progressed for me too. However, I never said first date. I said "early on" which is deliberately vague. Not first date, but not months either!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:17 AM
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Women would probably be wise to heed it for their best interest. But men who want to be sure they're not being settled for would probably be wise to cut their losses after a certain point, whatever that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:10 AM
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What are you trying to achieve by posting this? Understanding. From our point of view. That we're not evil misogynistic monsters for wanting to put our penises inside your vaginas. And that we still value you as people and partners despite wanting to get all up in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/21 12:02 AM
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