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GODZILLAFLAMETHROWER/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 03:09 PM
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I was able to fuck with my girlfriends without worrying about producing an offspring. The pill has been legalized directly due to feminist campaigns back in the day. Our dwindling economy has benefited from the additional workforce that women provide. This permitted (among other factors) to have generous social programs, which allowed me to study in college for free. I've landed a good job well payed that is clearly higher up the social ladder than the family I grew up in. I also agree with the …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/15 01:04 PM
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As an outsider, The Red Pill is more about the packaging. It's first a place where men and some women will have a policed language that is taylored to convey these principles you just listed. This is thus also a community with its codes, linguo, organization (Endorsed Contributors). This seems more about trying to be coherent about what you just described. I guess there are some debate about some details, even if the core is pretty difficult to discuss on TRP itself (which is why we are discussi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 02:23 PM
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You are absolutely right. The dilemma is not showing how men are drawn toward sex, it shows how men are not willing to be cuckolded by their wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/15 12:14 PM
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The vast majority of men have selected B. Out of how many? And what is their age and general profile? Is it representative of men as a whole in the US? 'Cause raging hormones and different walk of life would skew the result. On the internet, on Reddit, among the TRPers, I'd be curious about what kind of demography we are talking about. They have option A. Yes, and option B as well. Like anyone else. Not choosing B does not mean A is more appealing. I would just not care either way, my life would…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:58 PM
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No cop out "I wouldn't choose either one" answers. To anyone that is unable to choose, sex is thus not more important than emotional intimacy. That should be of interest, but you are too far up your ass to be interested in that. That's like asking whether you want your left or your right eye gauged out. Well. Coin toss then, because it will be shit either way and I don't really care about the outcome. To me they are equal, and that should tell you that AMALT is bullshit. But you will not be able…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 09:48 PM
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Good, at least here we can see the bullshit. That's sane process. "Any temptation to interpret these results as a defeat for psychology, or science more generally, must contend with the fact that this project demonstrates science behaving as it should." Now, that also says that anything that can not be falsifiable and thus testable is to be taken with a gigantic grain of salt. Like evolutionary psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 09:34 AM
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Every sub limits content. Okay. When you start limiting these things: Includes, but not limited to, postmodern discourse, [...], alleging moral imperatives which cannot be deduced from empirical observation, [...], lying about the existence or nature of evidence for a hypothesis. Concern trolling (attempts to dilute discourse under the guise of friendly concern for public image), white-knighting ([...]), bro-knighting ([...]), ... (1.) will limit your worldview. You can agree or disagree, it doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 08:26 PM
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Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished. ‪ Concern trolling. You have to be approved to post in TRP. If you try to question the core tenet of TRP, you will be banned. You can only discuss specific topics and only to a specific degree. Ah, and why are we currently speaking in PPD, instead of TRP? The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society. Pretty obvious, this is the most proeminent sign. The group teaches or implie…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 07:13 PM
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Well, it was pretty obvious that you weren't completely there. Every one call fall prey to this kind of organization, good thing you've see through it early enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/15 06:55 PM
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Why do you have faith yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:16 AM
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If blue pill is so anti red pill, then whats wrong with Christianity. Are you on medication or drugs right now? You sound off. You have trouble forming a coherent train of thought. This quote is a good example of it. When blue pill defends sluts, they slam religion in the process. And we should give a shit why exactly? By advocating for eating pork and bacon you are slamming Islam in the process. Big whoop. People will not have the same faith as you, it's OK. Or it should be. Otherwise you're in…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/15 08:13 AM
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that everyone is equal and has the same potential if they only apply themselves Who the fuck comes up with this bullshit? Life's unfair, it's plain and simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/15 09:49 AM
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Yeah, well there are dumb people everywhere. The tweet in your OP makes me cringe for the guy, and this is the kind of person that will end up jaded and angry at women because they don't understand what they're doing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 03:45 PM
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You are having a conversation with /u/VermiciousKnidzz and I'm commenting right there just to show you that a third party can feel compelled to join in on any conversation involving any kind of people. These men could just be lurkers reading an opinion they disagree with and wanted to chime in. It's not that I don't consider /u/VermiciousKnidzz to be incapable of driving his point coherently, it's just that I want to make my own point because I consider that it would be interesting for everyone.…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/15 02:40 PM
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Well my point of view is that most girls in the article comes from a past mindset with regular expectations and are somewhat sorry for what they discover on the other side of the rainbow. These expectations, their worldview is the one of the past. TRP is struggling with it, trying to come up to terms with having to deal with it (I disagree with pretty much every premises of TRP, it doesn't mean that I cannot hold every one up to their responsibilities). I'm a feminist. I expect men to have a bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 04:05 PM
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No, what I meant was that TRP men are content with women expecting them to be proactive and with the traditional dating role (and don't get me started on traditional gender roles). Personally, I don't have a problem with this new dating scene as much as I have with the people that want its benefits and none of the drawbacks, and who would like to keep the privileges they could expect traditionally. TRP wants it traditional. They want women to not be in charge of their sexuality as it gives them …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 02:04 PM
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The only thing I find annoying here is the girls complaining that they feel undervalued. They are hooking on Tinder, FFS. What do they expect. Second, it's mostly speaking about the New York scene. I don't see it in my city (different country altogether), even though Tinder is a thing here. Finally, I find extremely dumb the knee-jerk reaction of saying "but is it really fair for the girls to ease the hook up process that way? They lost their power in the game". Tough shit. No one force the girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/15 12:23 PM
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but I can assure you that the capacity for reason and common sense isn't exactly more pronounced among card-carrying bluepillers That's assuredly true, but in the end this is simply battling the human nature. Certainly nice but ultimately useless if it is in other people. However, if I try not to be jaded and so arrogant for a second, while there are every chance for someone outside of TRP to be wrong, simply choosing TRP is in itself being wrong. So many views within it are only the expression …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 02:56 PM
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bluepillers who consider themselves ethically superior Just because you are bluepill does not mean you consider yourself ethically superior. No, I feel superior because I'm not buying into this feel-good thingy, newspeak language and general weakness that is TRP, taylored as a safe-space for men's feels. The sarcasm is only there because of this irrepressible laughter when one of those people then try to hold frame and show off their bravado and explaining to you how the only reason you're not a…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/15 12:50 PM
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Only because you're an emotions-first, logic-second type of person Even if it was true, you have no way to conclude that from what you have read. Understand that this isn't meant to be an insult. If you were to present the same argument towards me, my first instinct would not be to be insulted, but to question its veracity. What makes you think I felt insulted first? Have you ever considered questioning the veracity of your judgement considering how you jump to conclusion about thoughts ordering…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 06:20 PM
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No, this is simply the perspective of someone who has never thought in a cold, logical fashion. That's a nice underhanded insult you got there but you have no idea of what you are talking about. Please keep your baseless assumptions to yourself. It's the same way that a blind person can't understand what it's like to think in colour. Being logical is more difficult and tiring, and requires to actually pay attention to details. Every human is capable of it, most just lack the necessary discipline…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 05:19 PM
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Females tend to think with their feelings. Everyone does so. This is the standard, default behavior of the population at large. This is the reason we had to come up with discipline and methodology to actually start doing real science. It's not "females". society can be thought of as feminized Or society can be thought up as pandering to stupid masses in popularity contest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/15 10:38 AM
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Of a group of men doing this without being considered hateful or an example of reasons why TRP is considered a hate group?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 07:33 PM
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An example of what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 07:25 PM
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Men do it all the time without being in a hate group. That's not the reason TRP is considered one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/15 07:21 PM
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Sure buddy :) .
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 05:04 PM
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That's not what is written here but you having reading difficulties is not at all surprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 04:31 PM
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I improve myself, alright :) . I just have completely different priorities than yours and the improvement is going in a completely different direction. That you have zero imagination as for what you could do with your life is your problem, not every one has to be so bland.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 03:07 PM
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I agree, but that doesn't lead me to make sweeping generalizations about people who like, say, athletics and take pride in their achievements. Okay, that's fine, we all have our ways to relate to different people. Mine is to immediately shoot down people who think this is interesting because we will have diverging interests and I don't want to waste both of our time. I certainly make mistakes that way, but it's not like there is any lack of people to meet. I can pass a few opportunities. it's pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 10:11 AM
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But doing cardio is more exciting? Nope. Actually exercise for the sake of exercise is boring. Playing rugby, soccer or whatever is more interesting. But in any way, generally sport is bland and boring and if that's how you define your personality then you are also bland and boring. It's necessary but it should not define your identity. It's only a mean to an end. By the way, I could make the same point about shopping That you don't like it? Yeah I guess, but I don't give a fuck. My opinion is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 09:22 AM
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That's exactly that, what else do you read here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:39 AM
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Okay? Whatever floats your boat. I prefer other, more interesting, things.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/15 06:38 AM
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Or even simpler: that lifting is boring as hell and that people who love that are not interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/15 08:02 PM
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plus red pill theories are necessarily harsh so banning that kind of thing will necessarily mean we can't talk about the red pill. I don't know about you, but I'm able to speak about the skinning of live animals or human trafficking or the effect of krokodil in a civil and calm tone. It just seems that you think the "[sacred] right to be a hash son of a bitch" means you are entitled to act like a diva. That you think so does not mean it would hinder the debate in the slightest to police things a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/15 07:41 PM
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When you dismiss others views as merely groupthink, you are not dismissing them on the basis of truth or falsity. Then don't do that? Do I have to spell it out for you? Or do you just want to argue against imaginary points I did not make so that you can reaffirm yourself as a big man who don't need no reaffirmation? When you dismiss it like that, without an argument to truth, one day you will wave away the train. I'll be stepping off the tracks now, thanks. Again with your fucking tired thought …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 11:17 PM
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All these self aggrandizing bullshit just to show that you don't have the necessary reading comprehension to understand that you actually agree with me. Beautiful and hilarious. Whether many agree is immaterial. That's the whole point you mong. The number of people having a specific opinion is irrelevant. The group does not matter here. But no, you had to make an ass of yourself by proudly touting how dense you are. Red Pill in all its glory people!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 10:27 PM
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Intellectual dishonesty is never interesting. You're like a child who insult stupidly to test and try to elicit an answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/15 06:15 AM
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Are you talking to yourself? Most of this post is made up bullshit. "No it's you". Whatever dude, you're wasted time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 10:47 PM
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Uh huh. So? So, having standards is not equivalent to infringing upon your rights, as is eugenics doing when it is applied. No. They don't do it as a group. They do it individually. Yes, and each of those individual behave in a way that can be judged on a macro level given enough samples. As a group, then, their behavior cannot be considered eugenics. Tingles my be an evolved response, but women indeed be rational about what are good genes. If you don't wanna fuck, you don't fuck. And as for the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 09:23 PM
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Self-direction of human reproduction is the negation of natural selection. That some terpers are dumb enough to conflate the two speaks volume in and of itself. But that they can be proud of coining newspeak-like use of these ideas is just the icing on the shit cake.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 08:55 PM
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Any group think is a bad idea, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 08:49 PM
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If a woman refuse to produce any offspring with you, she is not denying you your right to reproduction nor your right to self determination. Furthermore, women as a group do not engage in mass scale social engineering geared toward producing better offspring. The keyword here is engineering, since natural evolution is not conscious, and cannot be considered eugenics.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 08:47 PM
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Newsflash: every group will engage in group think. It does not make TRP any righter or its opposition any less justified. If you can't deal with it, avoid social functions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 08:36 PM
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No, it's ridiculous because that's not what eugenism is and because TRP feel all edgy, special, and satisfied for letting their brain sharts go in public.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/15 08:30 PM
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I'm not clear on the law here, but I'm pretty certain about how it should be: we are equal in front of it regardless of our gender. If women are to work in the same way men are, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever for women to keep the protection they received when it wasn't the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:59 PM
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Think if the possible duties of a wife and see what fits your worldview. Then try to be fair and coherent. A glaring contradiction like this one should not resist much scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:07 PM
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I only judged the character, and did not reformulate in order to fit my agenda. If anything you could call it an ad hominem but since I only spoke in vague terms that would be stretching it. But a strawman? Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:02 PM
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Consent is consent, is consent is consent. That's not what's at stake here, if you cannot see past that I'm somewhat sorry for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 02:16 PM
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Reading this kind of crap? Yup, usually coming from the more extreme redpiller, and usually because he thinks he is so much smarter than anyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 02:14 PM
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Must be nice fantasizing upon the stupidity of others and building strawmen so that you don't have to think about your opinion too much. Intellectual honesty is so overrated anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 06:10 AM
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But I also feel that in marriage men should be supporting the wife. And women, their husband. Bam, equality. So like I guess what I'm saying is that to me I feel as if it it's good we have a system that helps women out. Either you provide the same protection to men or you get rid of it all. Fortunately, we are all equal in front of the law (if we speak of the west).
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 06:02 AM
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What the fuck. Either you are for equality, or you are not. You clearly are not. How you can come up with something so intellectually dissonant is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:55 AM
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You mean, after she gave consent she cannot be raped? Wow! What a fucking realization this is! Thanks for pointing that out!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/15 05:48 AM
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Because it is the definition?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/15 07:59 AM
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Oh I won't deny the difference of IQ among different population. But there is far too much critique of IQ in the first place and IQ in a multicultural context to be able to draw any serious conclusion about it. That you so conveniently forget about it speaks volume about your bias and your ability to shield yourself away from inconvenient facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 04:28 PM
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To believe that they aren't without any reserve completely discredit yourself as a believer in science.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:12 PM
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Typical TRP bullshit answer. You will find no one (or almost no one, never say never) to advocate applying these gender roles to our society. It is only a way to take a step back in order to analyse more accurately our species. That you want to shy away from the truth is not really surprising though coming from someone who will so vehemently defend that his own is the one and only.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:08 PM
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This is wrong on so many levels... Ok let's see... no, "we" cannot analyse our societies and study them. Some of us can. Wow that's your big critique? That the "we" shouldn't be taken literally but understood as "Us, the human race"? Allowing women into workforce wasn't a Master Plan to "double our workforce" Never said it was a masterplan coined by some genius. It's just the path of least resistance for a better outcome in the western moral framework. So, so wrong on so many level, you big dram…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 03:04 PM
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That some people are moron enough to warrant special treatment believing that it will lend them some reward does not change the fact that the law should apply equally. It's the same thing if someone is rich or famous. It's a form of corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/15 02:59 PM
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Humans generally live in excess so natural selection isn't present. However as a society certain mating guidelines are heavily present. Arranged marriages in Indian society, are pure artificial selection. So at which point exactly natural selection becomes artificial selection? And if there is no trace of it, how do you know it exists? If there are traces of it, where are they documented? There have been documented differences on IQ among races, cranial capacity. This is controversial to say the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 11:21 PM
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I was quoting OP doing a strawman.........
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 10:25 PM
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WTF are cat-kin?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 10:01 PM
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Sex is biological. Gender is social. Several societies use a third gender (for example, Albanian sworn virgin that lives like men), and some other uses 4 or 5 genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:54 PM
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Humans breeding isn't natural, different societies emphasize different things. Well, a pack of wolf is a society and only one wolf will breed. Isn't that nature? Why would human societies not be part of Nature as well? Because we are the only possible cause for another kind of creativity? You would be right if we used eugenics. We don't. If you have one society that values intellect and being docile, and another that is a warrior culture, who do you think is going to be more brutish genetically?…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:44 PM
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So they should be punished by affirmative action? Are they punished by affirmative action? Is someone advocating for them to be punished?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:37 PM
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Different breeds of dogs can breed with each other, they are all the sames species. That's cool, it doesn't mean that homo sapiens is composed of different species. The strawman? You did two strawman: there are little to no differences among race and gender. But I don't think we should be trying to push people to do certain things. There is only one race of human. Sex is not the same as gender. No one is saying that there isn't any difference between two persons. Only that everyone should be tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 09:34 PM
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These beliefs generally being, everyone is equal, there are little to no differences among race and gender. Everyone is equal in front of the law. Of course not everyone is born equal. Just look at dogs for a second, within dogs there are so many different breeds, with each breed being good at certain roles, some more intelligent then others, some more athletic than others. This is all generally accepted, now why is it that if a person dares to apply similar logic to humanity, he is deemed a rac…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/15 08:53 PM
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In the end anyone engaged vocally with these concepts will find themselves unemployable and or arrested You're stretching things. No you won't get arrested for thinking and saying that men have problems. You won't be the victim of some cabal against you. Most people won't care or simply aknowledge and move on. You might have to defend yourself verbally against a few opponents, mostly on the internet. Nothing that will prove too difficult if you stay civil and level headed. You are being paranoid…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/15 07:59 PM
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Lol, sure buddy! And your last answer is only a proof of that. You are so ridiculous in your delusion of grandeur. As if anyone here gives two shit about your pathetic attempt to project a persona out of your fantasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 07:42 PM
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Go on, point out where did I do such a thing. Where did I write that she was right? I only said that teeelo's retort was void of any substance. That doesn't say anything about anything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/15 02:02 AM
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Wow, you have managed to write all that with not a single substantial bit, not a single argument. Only rage and namecalling. What a fucking joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/15 01:52 PM
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Yes, because if you observed it then it is obviously true. You certainly don't have a bias yourself. There is a difference between a study demonstrating a bias in a field and you stating without any semblance of proof that there is a bias in each field of social sciences. Your claim are quite presomptuous and needs solid backing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 12:01 PM
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Yes, and why not also to economics? Oh wait, that doesn't work so well. Stop being so fucking dishonest.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 11:52 AM
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As someone BP, I completely understand OP reaction to his girlfriend. This kind of joke is not appropriate the first time you see the boyfriend of one of your friend. It is obvious that you entertain a sexual tension with her, and as her boyfriend I would just not trust you around her. Moreover, the fact that she was so compliant is screaming shit testing. That she is so oblivious to how uncomfortable and despicable this behavior is is just lacking respect for your relationship. From my armchair…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/14 09:57 AM
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Would you have a problem with her past if she was willing to do these things with you as well? Because to me it seems more to be a problem of how differently you are treated, and moreso how you think that she value you less because she doesn't let you be the cool kid, than about her sexual depravation.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/14 08:22 AM
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I don't consider "SJW hipsters" to be a political leaning, so no. I haven't followed GamerGate too closely, this kind of bullshit is not very interesting and all in all nothing will come out of it. However you spoke about "the other side" of the argument. Which side is it? The journalists side or the gamers side?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 08:33 AM
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And I agree with cultural marxism, or at least treating all demographics of people equally if that's what you mean. That's not what cultural marxism means. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School_conspiracy_theory
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:58 AM
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A thought terminating cliché used by right wing nutjob to dismiss any left ideology without having to actually think about it. Same way fundie is used for example. Or hipster, conspiratard, neocon, libtard... Or any derogatory term ever to label and dismiss out of prejudice to simplify the exercise of one's confirmation bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/14 07:52 AM
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More like http://i.imgur.com/seh6p.gif , robot.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 04:15 PM
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There's really no difference. That's the riddle. Masculinity is dominant leadership. Femininity is submissive compliance. So, you can understand why in our western society we approach gender as a spectrum. That's exactly it: a positionning on several aspects used as social demarcations. Women carry eggs, men carry seeds. That's basically the only difference. Yep, and nothing more is required. We can be asexual and still human. We can have sexual organs and never use them, and still assume a gend…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 04:12 PM
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"Gender is the range of characteristics pertaining to, and differentiating between, masculinity and femininity." "Sex is either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions." Seeing as a man can be feminine and a woman masculine, I see no reason to conflate the two notion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 04:00 PM
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I thought it was women who were the "default" sex, and men morphing due to hormones? Anyway, that's sex, not gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/14 03:53 PM
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What is a Slayer? And why is this guy still posting here? So many questions...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/14 01:05 PM
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See controversy about Julien Blanc from RDS.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 11:21 AM
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So when this is applied to TRP, TRP is somehow held to a higher standard than any other ideology but when it's feminism, it's the baseline criticism. You've shown twice your bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/14 07:44 AM
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Something is telling me the scientists involved in the related study were aware of this definition while they were researching it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 05:50 PM
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When your activity is to bitch and whine about other ideologies turning you into victims of the system it pushes people to scrutinize and try to show you why you are not better than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 01:44 PM
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Arguing with BPers is really frustrating. Because half or more of the argument is some stupid strawman. Said the guy who just moved goalpost.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/14 01:36 PM
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I'm blue. Does not feel drawn to conform to social behavioural norms. Who is anyway? Exhibits charm and intelligence. Charming to some people, and in general considered to be intelligent Uses deception, partial truth, exagerration and misdirection to achieve aims. False Acts decisively, including sometimes impulsively. Not impulsive at all. Demonstrates assertive behaviour verging on aggressiveness. Depends on the context. Effective communicator and rarely lost for words. Generally true Rarely r…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/14 10:15 PM
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I like your stance. Your first point seems very common, but 2 and 3 are very interesting. If TRP members were agreeing on an individual level but in masse (all this convoluted language not to use "TRP as a whole") to this it would be much more interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 12:22 PM
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I find your point interesting, because I'm using this very argument myself. I agree that some part of TRP is working: being dominant, confident, holding frame will work in some situation and can be useful. Moreover, being ruthless, socially violent (as in, being socially very dynamic, enterprising and confident) can be charismatic. We can further affine the point, telling for example that not all conflict can be solved this way or that it can sometime be counterproductive, but it's not interesti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 12:15 PM
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My stance is that holding frame, being dominant and generally confident is a very good thing, for attracting women and attracting success in most part of life. Charisma is a very powerful and useful thing to yield. What makes TRP, TRP, is their link to previously existing concepts found in reactionary milieu along with some evopsych. They glued some parts together with poorly defined terms and ideology (sollipsism, hypergamy, dread game, etc...). But that's not what is unique to it. What is uniq…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 12:05 PM
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Except for the point 1 & 2, this is a description of every circlejerk ever. The draw to SRS is mostly boredom and fanaticism, but they are not actively recruiting their members. Said members are already convinced. TRP on the other hand tailor their rhetoric for this very purpose, and very much target the 1 & 2 goal. The discourse held by structural members is one that must appeal to beta losers (I don't think beta is relevant, but this is how they would call it). The BP man by their own definiti…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/14 11:56 AM
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Thank you for this post. This is exactly my feeling about this whole debate. This is the reason I refuse to call myself purple pill, because the moderate stance is fully blue pill. Blue pill is not the extreme ground TRP makes it out to be. They manipulate the language, shift the ideas so that you have to define yourself in opposition to their rhetoric. Some broke this by calling themself purple pill, but I believe that the negation of this rhetoric is calling them on their bullshit and fully em…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/14 10:32 PM
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I'm very much from the west, indeed. We have slightly different customs from the US regarding social interactions, but it's overall the same. Different marriage laws though, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/14 06:38 AM
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Second language, and I was tired. Maybe I will correct the formulation at one point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 08:14 PM
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I'm 100% blue pill, because fuck their dumb polarization. The first stuff you mentioned (even if I don't entirely agree) is pretty basic stuff, stuff known and told at every turn, stuff that isn't Red Pill. It just isn't against Red Pill. The thing that makes Red Pill is the second batch of stuff. When they try to explain things and find theories, however they mostly imagine things to reinforce their own delusion and they think about it from their angered state. I'm still 100% Blue Pill because …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/14 05:57 PM
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It's not thought policing, it's speech policing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/14 10:19 AM
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Even if that is a traditional "opressed" role? Given that she choose for herself, yeah. A lot more than /r/selfimprovement. like what?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/14 07:41 PM
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I know... that means everyone in TRP has dyslexia Reading comprehension <> dyslexia. Seems like you're in need of an education. One more sign of these comprehension problems is that you immediately thought that I was generalizing my critics of you to the whole of TRP. You will find no trace of that in my post, it is again your rambling catching up. You are just being delusional. Again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 04:11 PM
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Colored by emotion... Yup, that seems correct. You definitely have reading difficulties.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 04:01 PM
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Maybe that's because you keep doing the exact same mistake again and again, thinking that you can effectively address everyone on the same level. By doing the exact same mistake you will receive invariably the same criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 03:51 PM
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I think you know fuck all about me and my sexual strategies. However you are seriously delusional, or dare I say, sollipsistic. You live in your made up, comforting world and create easy target for you to criticize because dealing with reality is too hard and compromising. Seems like TRP is attracting exactly the kind of people they claim to fight, the one too weak to deal with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 03:35 PM
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We all get taught this a 1000 different ways. And yet you find stuff like The Red Pill. Apparently some people are not taught enough. You're the one who can't handle information apparently What makes you think that? almost like the knowledge is neutral That's very naive. Information is neutral. Knowing things is not, it is power and ultimately it is a political statement ("knowing" something instead of something else, as knowledge is subjective, makes you stand in a specific position, and this p…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 02:22 PM
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Obviously only he can make the assessment that RP improved his life. He was talking about men, as in, several men, of whom he certainly never heard of in meatspace. "Be confident" is about as helpful for a guy with relationship troubles as "make more money" for someone with financial troubles. Yes, this is a shortcut meant to encompass everything behind. Building a life for yourself, being critical of yourself but also realist and accepting that you have assets worth something on your own, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/14 01:51 PM
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The RP has helped men to become more successful with women. what proof do you have of that? Being confident is enough to get a few girl. As a BP man, I'm acting RP in some way, since before the creation of RP, and I'm still BP. Not even Purple Pill. Red Pill wants to polarize, then they don't get choosy about their label. So, then, why attribute that to RP? Why attribute that to the shitload of harmful ideologies that are linked with the self-improvement to bait a few immature losers who don't k…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/14 09:56 PM
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Tumblr is ridden of troll and downright mentally insane people (otherkin anyone?). Yes, you can just rule it out. Jezebel also have a lot of flaks for being extremist. It is certainly not considered mainstream feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/14 10:34 PM
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Wtf man? I never heard this theory from TRP, and why should anyone give the slightest fuck about your prediction?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/14 02:23 AM
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This is a good post, much better than the previous one. It derails the laziest defense ("women are just different, you are the one telling me that it makes them inferior"), and actually goes to the core of the problem directly. It's thus a shame that the immediate response from Red Pillers is to avoid the discussion entirely.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/14 09:09 PM
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The USMC col. is akin to the anger phase in Red Pillers. He knows he lacks control in his life and tries to resort to machismo without understanding the underlying problem, which is him accepting himself. The drug dealer son is dominant because he knows himself, and as such is kind of a natural alpha. He is confident and dominant, but not in a traditional way. He doesn't conform to generally accepted views of masculinity. He is not Red Pill at all. He isn't in admiration in front of dark triad t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/14 11:35 AM
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You should not marry someone if you are not able to have a sane relationship with them anyway. And you should know about that long, long before doing so. Yeah, people are morons, but I'm only describing how I would live my own life and how I think things should be done. My bad for taking a light joke, how dare I. For the shit that TRP gets around here I thought I could mirror you guys a bit. Apparently not so. Your whining is funnier than your jokes at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 11:06 PM
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No, I'm specifically talking about the instances where there is a conflict, however we distribute the responsibilities by trusting that our partner will make acceptable decision. In the end, it is still an open discussion. There will be several propositions, possible conflicts. However you can always say that if one of you is having the final say on such subject, then the other will have the same priviledge on another. the fact that it is the best setup for a large scale system, that has several…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 05:22 PM
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Someone will concede more Why? Or maybe I will concede on the fiscal decision, trusting my wife to be better with accounting, and I will make educational decision about our child, or I will choose the kind of holidays I want while my wife will choose the color of our bedroom. Anyway, this is not a clearcut competition, and it's only a matter of you having a fucking spine. And having a spine also means being able to back off sometime and trust your SO. There has never been a large-scale working s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:53 PM
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one party will always end up conceding Of course this situation is unrealistic in a LTR. The key here is that both will have to concede on something at one point or another. If you can never make any compromise then you are an immature child and having a relationship with a child is never a good experience. Why are you interpreting what is said in such extremist lights?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:43 PM
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No, I think that it depends on each and every personality and that it can change, even for one identical person among several relationships. I also think that there is no silver bullets like TRP likes to sell in the like of the Captain/First Mate model.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:36 PM
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What he is describing is more fuild that the Captain/First Mate type relationship. The latter is only one possible application.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 04:34 PM
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Besides the obvious physical strength, Being specialized in something Spatial thinking, however the question whether it is a learned trait is still not answered. Playing more video games trains your spatial thinking ability for example, and for a long time more men played video games (and types that were especially useful in this matter). Men have better reaction time on average, but it's really a very slight advantage. Being aggressive. Whether this is good or bad is another question. Being ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 03:10 PM
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Since Bluepers back up the righteous 50-50 relationship power to both parties Well, that's just wrong, for a start. Am I here just to wait while my partner fixes it? Or am I obligated to fix it too? If so then why am I fixing problems that I didn't agree to? Yes, because you are not a child and because it's not a matter of who is at fault but how to fix it. If you cannot bear a compromise with your SO then leave, this is not fit for a relationship. Thinking of optimality is stupid here. Seriousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/14 02:13 PM
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The whole post is peppered with useless reference to OP life, which serves absolutely no purpose other than writing about himself. It doesn't help whatsoever to build a context for an argument or support an opinion. It's just there. This reads like the diary of a teenager. Or a very young adult, if you want to be nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:49 AM
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This is not a morally-centered post, this is a self-centered rant.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/14 01:35 AM
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Can you point to a comment that was condoning this behavior? The comments on the source are seemingly unanimously condemning her, same as the comments here. I know you want to find apologists, but there just doesn't seem to be any. That she has a place to express herself and write her piece is not really a surprise. This text will anger a few guys, and people will start throwing a fit a two, bringing some clicks. But it's hardly a sign that the behavior is accepted anywhere else than in the head…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:36 PM
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under the pretense of modern feminism that is acceptable. Have you heard anyone here being accepting of this behavior? The most you could find was people telling "meh, I don't have enough info about the situation, but it's her SO's shit to deal with, and I'm happy it's not mine". Hardly an acceptance of the behavior. No one said it was a good thing. As a feminist I would never accept her behavior, but I'm not here to say to Justin to start giving a damn about himself, it's his job.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/14 09:26 PM
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On January 23, 2014 Manassas City Police was contacted by a parent of a 15 YOA female juvenile who was sent pornographic videos by a 17 YOA male suspect after repeatedly being told to stop. Upon further investigating the incident charges of manufacturing and distributing child pornography were brought against the 17 YOA male suspect on January 28, 2014 after consultation with the Commonwealth Attorney’s Office. Seems like the police tried to find any charges they could bring up to stop him from …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/14 06:19 AM
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Whatever my side is of course. Duh!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/14 03:43 PM
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TRP. Dunno why, it embodies the vapid and brainless image of the valley girl. I can't help but see this when a TerPer talks about a "tight bodied" bitch he will have when I will settle for the fat and lazy feminist. TBP. A joke band without much brain and mostly mocking douche of the like of Terpers. Lyrics goes by I love dumb bitches Maybe she likes the slaps in her face Maybe she bleed from the inside of the eye Maybe I punch too far on the right But I can't help it if she puts herself under m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 04:01 AM
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This is an idea TBP will never accept. Some BP seems to have accepted it already. (it even existed before that). Okay, tongue in cheek: you mean that before TRP, thus when everyone was BP, it already existed? You've just contradicted your first statement. (I'm only half joking: TRP seems to be able to accept that some of their concepts existed before them, however they seem unable to think that being BP does not contradict everything TRP describes. Anyway, it's not our subject). I'm not sure why…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 02:22 AM
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without RP, neither is even aware of the mind games they are playing by chance and instinct This is where you are wrong. TRP is not necessary here. You apparently don't even want to look Or I don't want to partake in bro-talk and brainwashing. Telling that if others are not of the same opinion then they can only be blind and ignorant if foolish arrogance. No need to call people Alpha, dominant is enough. No need to speak of hamstering, cognitive dissonance is enough. And by refusing the rehashed…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/14 01:45 AM
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And yet, when people describe such relationship as possible and desirable, you consider that this is "the desperate plea of someone who has realized RP works and is driven to despair by what that means". I'm blue pill. These relationships are the only one I can accept. I'm not hiding and in denial about the state of the game for most actors, men or women. I'm just not going to accept mind games for a serious relationship. Yes, if you want to find ONS building attraction quickly and being dominan…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/14 06:16 AM
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don't make for a very constructive discussion Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/14 12:16 AM
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Seems like I'm INTP. Edit: seems like I could be INTJ as well, from another test. The J/P part seems somewhat funky. I guess it depends on what I'm planning.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 02:27 AM
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I don't think it is a trait that is inherent to the Red Pill stance, and it has more to do with the fact that they go against the grain. It doesn't mean that egalitarian ideas are inherently more bigoted or that TRP is less so. However they don't exist in a vacuum and the context is important, given that they are social commentary/theories. It seems obvious to me, so sorry if I'm just laying out some platitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 01:20 AM
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What do you think toxic means when you say toxic ideologies are inexistant? I mean, to me it seems obvious that ideas and informations have an impact on people and their emotions, their feelings and ultimately the way they interact and live their lives. A toxic ideology to me, here, is an ideology that people will voluntarily follow but that is in the end harmful to themselves. So in this context, do you mean that toxic ideologies cannot exist because, once fully exposed they should be logically…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/14 01:13 AM
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From my experience, I pursued the unavailable guy because I needed to prove something to myself. I needed to convince myself that I possessed something that other women didn’t. All of it was rooted in low self-esteem and a need to compete with other women, of course... Being able to tame a bad boy comes with bragging rights. We like the idea of trotting this guy out and showing him off, because we think it says something about us and that it elevates us above our female peers. I think this part …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/14 06:13 PM
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Or it was incoherent because the author just can't answer a simple question without going on a tangent and start rambling obsessively putting up a mock up debate that he will obviously win, and that will represent his opponent as irrational. Seriously, this is what you hail as a model RP post?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 11:49 PM
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I just wanted to commend your effort. Denswend is very reminiscent of redpillschool when he was still allowed on PPD, with his dodgy debate style (never taking risks and framing the discussion in a manner that will require a substantially higher effort on his opponent to deal with). In the end though I'm sure he will weasel out of it, so I just wanted to commend your try.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 08:41 PM
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/u/fiat_lux_ made me take perspective on a few subjects, and overall it made me somewhat more sympathetic toward TeRPers, but I haven't changed my mind about it. I still find it very damaging, and especially for men, on an individual scale and on a global scale, if we were to consider TRP as a more important movement than it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 06:52 PM
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And what you can dig up on misogyny on TRP, I can dig up by misandry by feminist movements, and I can dig up misandry that is both more damaging and more in intensity. So, you seem to aknowledge that misandry is bad. Somehow however when the same thing is applied to women it makes it okay. You want a pissing contest? And as pointed out, misogyny is a core tenet of TRP. The defining material is inherently misogynistic. The same cannot be said about feminism. That you can find fringe beliefs that …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/14 06:50 PM
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Definitely blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:49 AM
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the sin of being TOO pro-male (supporting patriarchy). A patriarcal society is detrimental to men, IMO. Anyway, generalizations I engage in due to past experience: Women are more responsible than men for slut shaming. Women will lose sexual interest when confronted to a man expressing his emotion, and then complain that he is too stoic and a shut in. Some women will actually accept the favor of clueless men who think that will get them sexual gratification while perfectly understanding why they …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/14 01:31 AM
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when TBP stops using "misogynist" to mean ... (blahblah blah anyway) Inside every TBP is a little commissar just waiting to come out. They are leftist cranks, totalitarian monsters that want their politics to invade every space I often read blue pillers going on and on about housework in the context of relationships. They have a weird hang up about it. TheBluePill: shitty behavior from shitty people that are all convinced it is everyone else that are the assholes. You are the problem, not "socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 07:03 PM
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they just accept that women are solipsistic Can we please not engage in their newspeak talk and use the already existing words that signify the exact same thing ("cognitive dissonance" doesn't seem so complicated to me that we need an idiot-proof vocab for the concept). And thus, via the magic of using proper vocabulary, we can immediately see that, oh wonder, it exist pretty much everywhere. TRP will answer by saying that of course, they weren't denying this simple fact. However, as they want t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 03:37 PM
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since it would get them kicked off of reddit if they kept it Or, you know, since they don't want doxxing to happen. How is that not a hate crime? (...) Is there any moral superiority for blue pill ... ? Yeah, speaking of moral superiority and trying to out-smug each other, TRP sure seems to care a whole lot about morality for an amoral guide to being an asshole. Now as for the matter of concern (yeah, your petty namecalling is so productive, we immediately feel your will to discuss) they'll stoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/14 03:23 PM
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In the past month I've seen at least two subs that, in part, describe themselves alternative to RPW (...) I think this proves RPW's baseline assumptions were correct Okay, let me try to clarify because you are being cryptic. To you, the fact that other people tried to create "alternatives" to RPW constitute a proof that RPW is answering a question that wasn't receiving an answer, no matter which answer it is or which value it supports? So, How does the fact that the question is asked and up in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/14 03:13 PM
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You first buddy. Your wall of text is all muddy according to everyone but you, maybe there is a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/14 06:03 PM
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Okay, fair enough. To be perfectly honest I have a limited experience in this regard. I had a few partners that were asking for a submissive role sexually, but only one that wanted to extend it outside. I can deal with it, but I just can't bond in this situation. The "commitment" of which I am the guardian according to TRP, was simply all but possible for me. Boring is not the right word, it's a simplification of the dynamics that occured at this point. However it's not so far off. It certainly …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/14 12:59 AM
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When discussing sexual dynamics with a female friend, yes I have already expressed such interest. However, I am somewhat fluid, or flexible about it (I like a working chemistry more than a set in stone fantasy enactement), and the expression of this relativism render my answer not really pertaining to your question I think. If we are talking about lifestyle however, then no, I never expressed this kind of preference. It seems to me that such subject is more likely discussed with potential partne…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 02:50 PM
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I prefer someone who will respond wittingly to my advances more than just respectfully or obediently. This is however a personal preference and I emitted no judgement about other dynamics. Now, I don't know whether you identify with the views expressed in the linked comment, but to me the author is seriously delusional, to the point that he is irrational. This is more than sexism, this is misogyny. Anyway, as I said, I didn't link that to a polarized lifestyle, and I'm not sure why you feel insu…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 02:33 PM
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Care to explain? Why "Argh"?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 02:16 PM
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Question 1: What is your view on these types of women who actually do like being submissive and are wholly conscious of this? If you think there's something "wrong" with them or they're "damaged" somehow, why is that? I appreciate sometime to have this kind of sexual dynamic going on. However, even if it can be nice for a time, usually these personalities become boring outside of the bedroom I am unable to bond and have a relationship with a full blown, h24 submissive person. Question 2: What is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 01:31 PM
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Nothing lead me to think that he held Red Pills ideas, even if some Red Pillers quite clearly expressed support for eugenics and displayed blatant xenophobia - it doesn't really make TRP support it. It's more of an overlap of crazy traditionalist and reactionary reflexes. So, in that sense, I guess we could say that Hitler was Blue Pill. Now I don't really understand the interest of this statement, but, well, there you asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/14 12:37 PM
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Wow, that's quite the can of worms. Congrats, OP, I think you touched a fair part of the motivation for a lot of RPillers. A lot of it sounds completely insane, so it shows in a good way how irreconcilable our view of the world is. (eugenics, xenophobia, blatant misogyny? Seriously?)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/14 09:20 AM
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I power through and rationalize. I'm a narcissist at heart, so each time I'm against a wall I push and push and try to climb and usually get through. Always thinking I'm better than this motherfucking wall and something so fucking tiny will not hold goddamnit. Usually it works. Sometime I'm left with changing direction and thinking "I totally wanted to go there first, fuck it". In the end I need to be in control, or to feel in control and that nothing can prevail against me. It was a rough ride …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 01:54 PM
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That's something I was wondering actually. How do Red Pillers reconcile the "pump & dump" way with the general conservative position? To me it seems that there are two main populations on TRP. I wanted to make a thread about it, but my guess is that the main answer would be in the line of "it's the same logic, only applied to different situation of life". Anyway to me it seems like one of the main contradiction and the kind of thing that requires hamstering by RPillers. So, what do you think of …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 08:22 AM
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Is it possible to hide the number of points of a post? In the same way you hid the downvote arrows? I'm going on a limb here but I think it pushes people to vote, either way. Downvoter will continue to break the rule, sure, but I'm curious of the effect and I think it could reduce the overall number of votes. Is there any subreddit where such a CSS was used? Edit: Oh and btw, is it possible to have a link to the spreadsheet, even if not a presentation of the results themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 07:55 AM
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How do you feel about the amorality defended by TRP in its examination of sexual dynamics? To me you don't seem against "equality" or "respect" per se, but against thought terminating cliche and blank statements used to close the dialog. It's hardly controversial. People everywhere will take shortcuts when opposing someone or something, it doesn't mean that this thing is any more valid or correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 04:22 AM
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It is not very dangerous but it can be botched. Also, it decrease sensitivity, but also decrease health risks (particularly STD transmission rates).
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 04:04 AM
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What should be fought is people considering that gender roles should be enforced. Their little political agenda and hubris, making them think they deserve this kind of power. But this is not the same as fighting the roles themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/14 12:50 AM
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Why are you interested in being a Red Pill "quality female"? Do you think you will love yourself more? Obviously right now you don't. But do you think that a RPM will make it change? He will be abusive, and you will feel like you've deserved it. What's the point in that? You won't help yourself to become someone you'd appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/14 09:45 AM
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What is the problem? I rephrased some problematic sentence, but I don't see what is unclear. What? is not really helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 03:16 PM
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I'm using it. There is mostly implementations and description used for 2D/3D intersections, not generalizable to higher dimensions. I was searching in boost::geometry, but while seemingly very convenient, the library does not support the description of hyperplane. So I guess I must resort myself to write it on my own. Here is a small illustration of such intersections: http://www.dca.fee.unicamp.br/courses/IA369E/2s2010/projects/vidalon_watanabe/images/image009.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:47 PM
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So you define blue pill as being a victim, and red pill as being dominant? What do you make of people who are not victim and who do not accept TRP? Do you just deny their existence? Do you consider that they are being Red Pill without being conscious of it? Edit: rephrasing
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:24 PM
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Trying to find a good n-dimensional plane/polygon intersection algorithm. If I could find a library for this, that'd be rad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 01:40 PM
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Correlation isn't causation. It's a strong factor, it doesn't mean that it is the one causing more rapes to occur. For example, women between the age of 16 and 24 could be taking more risks, drinking more often and without much knowledge of how dangerous their environment can be. Or they can have a far higher chance to be in abusive relationships and being raped by their partner. etc. This is something to take into account, indeed, but telling that it is because that's when they are the most att…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 05:19 AM
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Indeed, we cannot know for sure how many goes unreported. The only thing we are sure of is that it is a significant number. And by most accounts, higher than the number or reported rapes. (The estimation I was speaking of is not a good estimation, but it is better than assuming 'not a single one'). That's the whole crux of this discussion. We aren't able to know for sure. Anyone who will tell you that they know (even /u/Unpopular_But_Right), are actually supporting an agenda, knowingly or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 05:14 AM
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Yes, this is not controversial in the least. What is difficult to assess is how much of these differences is acquired, nature vs nurture. TRP would like it very much to be almost entirely nature, but I don't see how they can prove it any more than scientists that are still puzzled and arguing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/14 02:58 AM
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You are not taking into account unreported rapes. I don't know the numbers for the US, but it can be estimated. A majority of rapes will go unreported.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 01:04 PM
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assuming a woman has 60 good 'rape-able' years (say, 5 to 65) Check Morbid Reality, you will see cases of rape occuring before 5 and after 65. Moreover, this kind of assumption means that to you, rape only occurs because of sexual desire. Rape is an expression of power. Nothing to do with age or sex or attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 01:01 PM
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I have yet to see an accepted definition of alpha in sociology, but colloquially, an alpha male is a man tending to assume a dominant or domineering role in social or professional situations. And I think the hypermasculinity TRP conflates with being dominant is wrong and dangerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 07:19 AM
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They do carry negative connotations and if they were used as insults your argument would have some validity, but as they aren't it doesn't. Seriously? Using an insult but not as an insult will cancel any negative connotation? Wonderful! You are living in the 1990s if you think that is true and even then it was only feminist researchers saying it You have a corpus of studies disproving it since the 90s then? Of course you wouldn't claim that without something to base this on. it was only feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 03:45 AM
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Very good summary of TRP, clear, concise.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 03:22 AM
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just information about female behavior Yeah, bullshit information actionable steps for self-improvement That can be found pretty much everywhere the discussion of sexual strategy in a society lacking a positive identity for men A toxic outlook on something that should be occuring but cannot exist because of guys like TRP spoiling the discussion with extremist rhetoric because they feel entitled. Positive identity for men ? You want to build this from a bitter, angry, powerless place ? As I said,…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/14 03:11 AM
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Take a guy who has difficulties to get a girl. He asks around what's wrong with him but all he is receiving is PC-compliant, neutral, compromising, let's all respect each other, easy to sell answers. So he becomes angry and bitter. He is a low-life. He sees successful guys who can't give any fuck about his situation, he sees women seemingly having sex with anyone but him. This is the first stage of delusion. These guys wanted easy answers, no one wanted to explain the real world to them. They ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 06:27 AM
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And how would you define your stance in PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 03:48 AM
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My motivation has always been to surpass my parents and my origins. I'm a sucker for knowledge and things to discover. I choose my field of work in this regard and made my life on my own terms. I need a very deep connexion with someone to consider a relationship, and they need to be independent, have their own life in check. I cannot stand someone dragging me down (like these leeches TRP seems to like having for a companion).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/14 02:28 AM
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Never heard of it! I seems interesting! thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 04:32 PM
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Every time I see or read this I have to say it out loud with the exact same voice.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 04:27 PM
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Yes, I watched The Wire, but I didn't know about Treme. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 04:24 PM
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I downloaded the first one, but I had to commit to watch it. Might as well start tonight. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 01:39 PM
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So, I got this girl for whom I have deep feelings. I can't be with her due to geographical frustration, but I can't really forget her. I tried to build a few relationships, but they were all doomed. I'm tired of mindless and superficial fucks, and I cannot connect as deeply with these other girls. This one girl feel the same about me, and she complains that she isn't able to connect with her boyfriends. It kind of ruin our romantic lives. I'm stuck in my current city, even if I travel a lot for …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 01:26 PM
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Mostly Stoner rock, doom metal... some examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjO5PuXJO48 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhu5RKxJrlQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL3lJ3eAAAc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBshKVY4GvI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEiRKpflgQA some experimental, drone stuff, like Sunn O))) or KTL Edit: And oh fuck, this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 01:02 PM
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It's a point of view The debate is about changing your view. Red Pillers are done being beta providers to ungrateful misandric women False dichotomy, completely stupid outlook on women. That's the crux of the debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/14 01:50 AM
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Well, that's fucked up. Since when is LPS a thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/14 05:13 AM
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I mean, whether or not the father wants to keep it doesn't matter at fucking all. You mean, when the mother wants to abandon her child the father cannot refuse to give up his rights and is forced to do so as well? I'm not talking about abortions, I'm speaking only about abandonment.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 09:34 AM
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This is rather... unlikely. Yes, but it is possible, and it has happened. Something that anti-LPS What does LPS means? Uh, what the fuck? No, this is not the case. This is why MRAs are pissed. Whether or not the father wants to keep it doesn't matter in the least, legally. You mean, there is no alimony to pay when the father gets custody?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 09:07 AM
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Well, some anecdotal account from someone working in a court in the US told at one point on Reddit that something like 90% of fathers didn't ask for custody. Is there any kind of actual numbers on this? Is it available somewhere? Because he also said that in the case where the father asked for custody as well, it was closer to 50-50 attribution. But it's an anonymous, one-man account so entirely unreliable. But I'd like to see the actual numbers before trying to find a reason for this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 08:33 AM
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He has a child. What kind of person would let his child live a shittier life just because? Let's say the mother didn't know she was pregnant until long after it was too late. Let's say she lives in a state where she has to put up with too many bullshit to have an abortion. Why should she be more responsible than the father in the fact that there is a child which need some support to live? They fucked. They're adult. Sometime you have to put up with something unfair. And as for abandoning the chi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 06:45 AM
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Why should the children have the support of only one parent? The father is responsible as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/14 06:18 AM
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The difference is that you just wrote this caricature of an argument. Even for a strawman this is the lowest level to which you can go. I didn't pull it out of thin air. Which example is not an unflattering generalization At least not the blue pill one. which one is speaking from my voice You tell me? I'm not here to build your fucking argument. If you want to defend something make it clear, stop trying to trick people into making a useless strawman and calling them out on it afterward.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 01:34 AM
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Me: Oh of course it is subject to interpretation and we cannot generalize, blah blah blah... Them: OH FUCK I'M SO FUCKING DUMB I CANNOT STOP SHOUTING Real classy. I don't think anyone was expecting anything bright from you anyway, but this is a new low.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/14 12:35 AM
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Don't lose your frame over it. It's gonna be ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/14 06:28 PM
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Believe it or not, TRP is not so separated from the rest of the world. The forum is doing a wonderful job of polarizing the debate, and actually this is what I reproach them the most (if we leave the stupid misogyny aside). They are polarizing a debate that is necessary to help men in our society, but there is absolutely no chance of something moving or the MRM becoming anything more than an empty shell as long as people keep buying in TRP. They defend the Truth, but the truth is a delusion, no …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/14 06:22 PM
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So stereotypical. Now I'm wondering who would take the bait on this, RP or BP?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/14 09:45 AM
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Well, usually people getting angry at the world and starting hateful rant are not really the bright and successful.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/14 09:41 AM
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Maybe but you got a shit personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/14 12:18 AM
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Yup, didn't see her post before. Scary. Well, I'm all for having an eye on violent movements, but TRP is far from being a radical politicized one.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 11:43 PM
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I've only seen helicopters when I've been at a heliport & I usually breeze right through customs when I travel. Her point is that there are already systems in place used to make a list of people possibly infringing the law. That this logic is not so foreign to your justice system. What the OP suggests is crazy talk. I'm pretty sure no one was defending OP in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 11:32 PM
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Because it's meaningless. It worked for you, wonderful. Now get a guy who didn't score for quite a time. Weeks, months, years. He is only himself. What do you want him to do? Continue? These guys are naturally unattractive, and they resort to use whatever manly caricature is played out by the media and adored by society. Is it shitty? Yeah. But men don't have a lot of good role model these days. We are pressured to fuck or be considered a low-life socially. Anyway. I could continue in this rant …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 11:17 PM
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I pretty much stopped coming here when I see the bald faced name calling Maybe you should start by behaving yourself in the sub instead of being the shit user you are usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 09:02 PM
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So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 09:02 PM
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Oh of cours, insult is already frowned upon. What I'm talking about is more about language policing, ie gendered slurs, sometimes used when debating. This is not really useful nor constructive for a particular point, but I think we can survive someone calling women sluts to be able to discuss with him and try to make things move.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 08:56 PM
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I don't think moderation is shitty. My guess is that you don't see the true shitshow precisely because they are doing their job. However they want to keep it at a minimal. TRPers are pretty sensitive toward moderation policies, and we have to cater to them to be able to have a discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 04:41 PM
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TRP blames feminism for hypergamy and blame women for their immaturity and their emotional shortcoming (not able to "love" as well as a man does). Blaming others is very RP. It's true that TRP advise to improve yourself based on this premise. That's a good mentality, however they are fucked because their premise is delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 04:16 PM
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They had called the cops months before. They were so concerned that they notified the police, yet he was unsupervised. He was free to come and go as he pleased. Yeah, so, why are you blaming the parents instead of the police or social workers that didn't react accordingly? He was a free man, they can't just lock him in his room and be done with it. We do? Because right now schools are teaching kids it is wrong to call people "crazy" and it's just as insensitive as saying "retarded." Yes, you do.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 04:02 PM
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So there is a bit of a weird collision there Not weird at all. He was spiteful, bitter, angry and powerless. This is the mindset a lot of people share before going to RP. This is actually what most TRPer understand of TBP. For them this is the state they were in before finding the forum. They have this weird conception of BP that they think everyone has lived. They think that other men lives in the same shit world but are too pathetic and too cowardly to aknowledge, let alone do anything about i…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/14 03:52 PM
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We already separate crazy kids from others, and his parents did try to help him, quite extensively, and then called the cops on him, before the shooting. What should they have done instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 11:48 PM
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For capitalism-related questions, I usually disagreed. For example, regarding the question about whether capitalism forced women to dress in a feminine way, my take was that capitalism is mostly amoral. It doesn't enforce any particular societal role upon its agent based off tradition. What is the most efficient survives and strives. If in some job it is more efficient for women to dress in an old-fashion way, then capitalism would encourage this behavior, but the opposite could happen as well. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 08:42 PM
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As a white, cis, heterosexual man, considering myself a feminist and being blue pill: Liberal feminist 40 Conservative 29 Women of Color 23 Socialist feminist 23 Cultural feminist 15 Radical feminist 13 My take on policies related to race is skewed, not coming from the US. I used my take on our own policies, which are about different populations (no "black culture", for example). Seeing your own results, I'd guess that we have very different view on feminism. In the US it has been marked as a mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 01:47 PM
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You say that like you are absolved of any responsibility in the matter. You want to defend "being true to yourself" and avoiding delusion, while you are utterly incapable of being self-critical. That's extremely ironic, and this coupled with your holier-than-thou attitude makes people react pretty badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 12:50 PM
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Only with the assumption that any subjective knowledge is fundamentaly false, and that this intrinsic truth value is absolute. That's far too many assumption to support, and your only defense has been to call everyone moron and tell that you were the only one reasonable. That's awfully arrogant of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/14 11:25 AM
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Arrogance. You are thinking about arrogance instead of confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 10:06 PM
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Ah indeed, I did the survey yesterday and couldn't recall the exact question.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 01:05 PM
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I'm curious about the result. BTW, I see a question for the age in the first survey, but not in the second? Only the age of the first sexual experience. I would think that knowing the age would be important if you want to ask the number of partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 09:18 AM
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Which question seemed unfair to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/14 09:16 AM
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Seriously? This is your counter argument? "Maybe they invented numbers because obviously this is not possible".
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/14 12:26 PM
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On a side note, fuck yeah you're back (well even if only for this topic).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/14 03:42 AM
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To understand what TRP means by BP, you have to put yourself in their shoes. A very specific mindset pushes them toward TRP, and at first they are powerless, bitter, alone. This is the state they were in when they asked female friends for advice and those friends told them to "be yourself, be kind, be respectful". When they made these efforts and it didn't work, they felt betrayed. This is the Blue Pill for them. They think that it is what we are actually advocating against TRP. They only see th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/14 01:08 AM
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Nietzsche speaks poetically of the human soul, thus I'm not surprised that a lot of people naturally react to his ideas. However, no matter how efficient these concepts are for stirring mud and moving the reader, it doesn't automatically means that it is anything else than a power trip. That, and many westerner teenagers had a Nietzsche phase where they would condemn unequivocally the hypocrisy of the modern society thinking that they were very edgy. I think it is a bad representation of Nietzsc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 02:47 PM
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TRP is a circlejerk of young, immature and impressionable men, with the occasional outlier living their midlife crisis and going through their divorce. They want to feel good and as such create power fantasy out of their bitterness and the mainstream rhetoric going on about how women are raving sluts that actually fucks at all turn, just not with them. They hurt men in current society by shutting off a debate about male condition and polarizing a reasonable position that could exist without the …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 02:01 PM
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TRP put some effort in polarizing their position. They claimed to have the unabashed Truth™. People coming from extremely various horizon thus easily disagree with this. Don't present it like they are some poor victims we mischaracterize at every turn as if they were the big bad wolf.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 01:38 PM
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If we start to criticize your position, then we have to tackle Nietzsche's philosophy as well. A tad too much effort for this forum. Anyway. Which side do you think is the "Master" and which side is the "Slave"? It's ambiguous. Where are the bitter cynic and where are the powerful, strong and open-minded men ? TRP by wishing to be alphe would like to become the second. TBP, by never having to suffer from the current world didn't become bitter at it. uzw. It doesn't overlap and this dichotomy is …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 10:51 AM
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there is a lot of "I'm morally superior to you" circlejerking going on. Wasn't TRP meant to be an amoral observation of gender dynamics? So, yeah, people upholding moral values would tend to think that one interesting thing about their opinions is that they are morally more interesting than something amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 08:41 AM
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You mean like when bluepillers come here to debate? A quick example: http://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/26g048/survey_about_general_rp_ideas/ You find the answers here to be a circlejerk mocking TRP? The BPillers seem to be disingenuous in their exposition? No debate is ever occuring in this sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:55 AM
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Because it's a lost cause? What do you want TBP to say here? We are not modding, for many of us we aren't even subbed to TBP. What shit do I give of the way a circlejerk subreddit stemming from SRS (which have the ban hammer very easy) goes on to discuss rationally with a RPiller? And I am talking about me, but do you see a lot of BP contribution in this thread? It seems pretty obvious to me that no BP sees a way to have a discussion here. He marked his post as "Question for Blue Pill". It is di…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:32 AM
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a community to discuss sex and gender issues I dont see butthurt feelings and reddit drama cited here
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 11:22 AM
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From the sidebar: Don't circlejerk. Avoid leading questions designed to put people on the defensive. You're frustrated. No one gives a shit what you think of TBP mods.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/14 06:57 AM
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-Do you believe women are attracted to muscles? Not as much as TRP likes to believe, no. They can appreciate a well toned body, but most would not want to live with someone whose main hobby is to work his body. Being fit is enough. Being muscular pleases mostly men I think. -Do you believe women are attracted to money? Yes -Do you believe women are attracted to social status? Yes -Do you believe that western women would 'fuck around' when young and then look for a more reliable ("beta") man when…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 05:46 PM
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TRP sells a worldview, and you can accept it only if you subscribe to this worldview. Being alpha is not Red Pill. There are many Beta in TRP that are Red Pill. They are Red Pill because they accept this way of looking at things. This way of being angry at the world for their shortcoming. At women, specifically. When I read this: Women are flawed creatures, and my mistreatment at their hands has made me realize this sad truth. There is something very twisted and wrong with the way their brains a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 09:02 AM
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He is was insane. Any answer will simply be a half-assed way to insult the other side, this question is meaningless and cannot lead to a constructive discussion. That being said, he shared the frustration that led to the constitution of Redpill. So in a way he is bluepill. The weird idea of Blue Pill that Red Pill has, anyway. Yeah, I'm not sure which side has been insulted the most here. Get 'em popping!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/14 04:19 PM
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I personally would rather be in a community where people are fielding sexist ideas (like for example, that women shouldn't be allowed to vote) because having my opinions challenged like that is a good exercise for me. Come at me with your crazy ideas, your backwards notions, your fringe theories bro - my beliefs are secure enough to handle it. Whenever I'm forced to articulate what I believe, it makes my convictions stronger - or alternately, it makes me change them and that's good too. In all d…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:58 PM
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To me it seems like she grew up of her teenage year, and she think feminism is just a teenage rebellion against the system that only entitled narcissistic little brat will pursue. So, good for her, but she is delusional. She blames feminism while she was the loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/14 02:42 PM
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You should get your cat fixed anyway, so yay.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/14 04:49 PM
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The system is far too complex to be ideally internally consistent. You have a set of moral assumptions that is moving extremely quickly and a set of laws, administration, that is by definition set in stone, so to speak. This is not illogical, nor something that we should avoid. We should simply fight for the system to catch up and become "more consistent". This is not a failure of one ideal or one ideology, IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 04:23 PM
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So, following your reasoning, and even accepting your argument (which I don't, but this is not my point), Why do you think TRP would be the answer to these problem men face? The woman considered main caretaker for the children is purely a product of traditional gender role. This is the "patriarchy", and a prime example of it hurting men. TRP is not fighting it at all. TRP is actually fighting feminism, which tries to undo centuries of social construct that hurts both men and women. If you are so…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/14 06:10 AM
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The politically correct would simply shifted toward a sexist PoV. And you would need to actually be a feminist to be as edgy as you are today. Win Win if you ask me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 01:22 PM
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That's not bluepill, that's just being stupid. You can try to be smart and avoid Red Pill misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/14 09:17 AM
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And that, to me, is partially extremely close to what TRP advocates, if you cut out the misogyny bullshit and the anger. Being happy is extremely important in that process, not because it is better to be happy (though it is true), but because projecting a comforting image is the most important thing to do to be able to attract anyone (male a female), ie be alpha in TRP terms. If you don't drop this anger, you will not be able to be happy. TRP is thus harmful in this process when they render youn…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/14 04:43 AM
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If you want any meaningful answers, define Alpha/Beta first. You had some RPers here saying that the Red Pill definition of Alpha differs from what you referred to. Several blue pillers also stated the same thing as me. All in all, this is completely useless without this definition. I've yet to see a study defines alpha/beta in human societies. If someone knows one, I'd be interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/14 10:21 PM
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That's weird. I get a lot of compliment about my eyes, never about my mouth before. Must be the angle. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/14 05:07 PM
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You may be ready to back your words, but usually in doxxing this is not the only thing that occurs. In the end, unstable people can become extremely abusive (harassment, rape threat, call to murder, etc...). Just as a friendly advice, don't thread in these water lightly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 04:42 PM
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I'm mostly blue pill, leaning toward the purple. (Not subbed to TBP though)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 04:37 PM
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If I'm attractive, my argument will be rejected because obviously I will have no problem finding a girl. If I'm ugly, then I'm a virgin who obviously know nothing about girls. Either way I'm losing. Here ya go. (Yay you got my uptime as well)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 03:43 PM
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Making a topic on the internet to tell young girls with big asses to stop trying to hit on me is kind of pointless though, don't you think? The point of her post is only to say that TRP misguided in its assessment of the "sexual market" to use their own term. Not to tell any old man to stop hitting on her. I notice a lot of "omg, 30 is old, how creepy" thing online, mostly US centric discussio.n I noticed no such thing in real life in Europe where I live. And where do you live exactly? Europe is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 07:46 AM
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too harsh or mean or offensive Or just plain wrong. Just because you were hurt is not a good justification to judge without reason. We can agree that several TRPer were hurt, and simply disagree with their conclusion. We can understand why they would have such reaction, but still condemn those.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 07:17 AM
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Then that's not a oneitis.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/14 07:14 AM
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My take on this would be that men are not able to adjust their emotion as much as women because they are forced to repress them to function socially (either with men or women). Women are allowed to express their emotion from the start. I guess that they have thus liberty to learn to deal with them better. Both gender is at fault here, and men should seek to be freed from this. TRP is making this hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 04:29 PM
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Usually I have a pretty good reading of the people I'm talking to, and I trust my judgement. So, if I build a relationship with someone, then it is because I trust them. Do you trust the people you date? I trust the people I am in a relationship with. When dating I am in a discovery phase so I try to stay open. Why or why not? Why do I only allow people I trust to have a relationship with? Because I have standards, morality wise. Some self-esteem. How long does it take for you to trust? It can b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:32 PM
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What's more flexible, adaptable is to let people decide. Not having gender roles pressed on you constantly, and being able to choose whether you want to go sub/dom or egalitarian. That's the whole point of 3rd wave feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 03:08 PM
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You just misunderstood his goal. This isn't explaining women, this is clarifying a stance opposing TRP to avoid having them continuing ranting uselessly about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/14 02:03 PM
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I won't tolerate any degree of cheating, and I won't cheat. I can accept an open relationship but not with everyone, and it depends a lot on what kind of intimacy we are sharing. For a LTR though, no sharing, and no pardon. I'm pretty serious about moral obligations and failing them is a deal killer for me. I don't believe that women are inherently bound to cheat. If I can't trust her, there is no LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 06:05 PM
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French don't have a more relaxed attitude to LTR infidelity.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/14 06:01 PM
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there is a social overtone of ignoring the social realities and variables involved in these two particular philosophical persuasions coming together BluePill beliefs are a collection of obvious falsehoods much of BluePill beliefs hinges on avoiding inconvenient truths What you are trying to write in a concise way is that "TRP lives in its own made up world and would like for everyone to agree with it". Now, you said that you have found the "desire and will" to post in this sub. Know that this li…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 02:07 PM
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I'm a computer science student, and graduated a few years back. I am in the way of starting my phd in a few months. So, I totally fit stereotypes about male jobs, I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 01:18 PM
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She is an attorney? She has to actually side for either the defense or the prosecution (Well I guess it's more complicated than that, but chances are we are not from the same country, so that's the gist of it)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/14 01:12 PM
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as a woman, what men think of me literally determines my worth in life. I can't understand this mindset. Keep in mind that most of TRP is jaded guys ranting about the big bad World coming to get them, and you are at the short end of the stick by being a woman that they wish they could have found. You get all their resentment for not living up to the expectation of being a punching bag of stereotypes they can use to build their hate. TBP is only a circlejerk that will violently oppose, hate on an…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/14 08:15 AM
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Is this your excuse for crushing minority opinion? I guess you would have never let feminism or civil rights get off the ground either with that logic. Or do you just inconsistently decide to be an unsympathetic asshole? For crushing? You got it wrong, I'm not for supressing the minority discourse. Actually the fact that someone stays purposefully in the minority by conviction is a way for me to measure my respect for him. However don't get bitchy because you get flak from society for it. This c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 07:17 AM
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Men are told they would get nowhere without a woman helping them. That's pure bullshit. being self-sufficient, and not requiring an appeal to authority, stoic behavior. Our society today would rather let other people handle situations instead of taking matters into their own hands. And how is it criticized exactly? Of course the point of society is to deal with its weak members. Of course its point is to let other handle situations. It does not mean that being independant is frowned upon. It doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/14 06:16 AM
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Certainly. There are lesbians, asexuals, misandrists and the like out there, after all. It's easy to answer that to dismiss any dissenting opinion without even trying to aknowledge them. Why are you losing your time here if you are not even trying to open your mind and question your beliefs? So, the gist of the argument is that TRP will mostly attract low self-esteem women. This is pretty consistent with the fact that they would voluntarily be submissive. For a LTR, a healthy and stable mate wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/14 12:35 AM
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I cannot answer as to why TRP wants to believe what they believe, however I'd just want to add something. I think it is important that a distinction be made between the psychological and the sociological part of TRP. Psychology is indeed still very young and a lot of material is still in the open. However, a lot of the observation made by TRP would most likely lie more in social commentary and is pertaining mostly to a US-centric culture, maybe slightly extended to western culture as a whole. Fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/14 08:07 AM
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Thank you captain obvious. Given that we weren't saying the same thing, maybe you should refrain from being sarcastic while you clearly shown that you weren't understanding what should be obvious. So if someone claims that gay marriage will lead to polygamy, the proper response is not "it's a fallacy", but "why?". Okay. because the same logic that is used to justify gay marriage can be used to justify polygamy Why? The logic for gay marriage is to provide the same economic advantage to every cit…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 03:11 AM
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That's not how it works. Saying "X will lead to Y, therefore if you don't want Y avoid X" is only valid as an argument as long as X actually leads to Y. You can claim that you do not think so unless someone proves it to you (or at least makes some compelling arguments). If he doesn't but still employs this argument, then he is doing a slippery slope fallacy, because he is using a link between X and Y he never properly defended.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 02:41 AM
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That's not just you, this is the very basis to any constructive debate...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 02:30 AM
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It would have been too hard to use a descriptive title I guess? Now, if we cut your bullshit and personal opinion about fallacies, you could just cut down the chase to Personally, I think that it's possible that a woman could give a useful dating advice, but in general a man's dating advice is more likely to be true than a woman's dating advice, if there's no hard evidence behind it. Discuss. Well, that has been already argued back and forth. You can still discuss it if you want. What's the prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/14 02:19 AM
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This is an easy way for them to feel superior, that's all. You can be shallow if you want, as long as you have the strength to support it socially. Seeing only the surface of people is a way to objectify them. The PC discourse is to condemn such a thing. Personally, I would definitely judge you for it. I'm also an asshole, and we can't just be friend with everyone, so there is that. I don't really care about PC compliance, I think that most people are hypocrites about it. I do care about seeking…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 01:27 PM
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First of all, what gives any human the right to dictate to anyone else what they should think or feel, regardless of if it is emotionally based or logically based? No one can give this right. It's not something to be righteous about. Nothing however can prevent anyone, anything to dictate this kind of thing. You get a sur-concious element coming for the culture you're coming from, you got interpersonal interferences, you got personal relationships that would push you, make you move, on you own o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/14 02:43 AM
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Indeed, and as such /u/OmegaRedPill's post just seems useless in the end. Her contrarian anecdote only serves to show that. For one, some of the anecdote he used does not at all support TRP. Only his interpretation does, which is pretty normal given his tendancy to confirmation bias. And in the end, it remains a limited dataset of which inference will be dubious at best.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 09:24 PM
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to enforce the prohibition of slurs That's what's done already. Do you really find it offensive to read "don't be a dick"? I agree that this does not set the best tone, but again, this is splitting hair and no one is being insulted.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:29 AM
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Yeah I agree their use is uncalled for, but still, we have to recognize that Red Pillers are sensible persons and this kind of preoccupation is prone to trigger post-traumatic flashbacks about "not being offensive enough".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:14 AM
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Yeah, but the rules are not personally attacking anyone. They are common personal attacks. Too bad, the word exists, but I feel like it can still be written down to say "don't say that".
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 05:03 AM
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If you start policing the sub this way TRP might feel threatened and leave. It's not so important IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/14 04:55 AM
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Yeah, obviously. I only wanted to voice a different definition because your interlocutor could have had a narrowed view of what it could be.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 07:08 PM
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I'm defining blue pill as not being red pill. I keep the term only to mock the allegory they choose to describe themselves. This dichotomy, this polarization is entirely counter productive to have a rational view of the subject, and as such is extremely ironic in the context of "swallowing the hard cold truth".
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 06:54 PM
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Hey, you are the one bringing your state of mind to the conversation by your first post. I understand that you feel safer when you are the one analyzing it (self-pity) as you won't have any surprising thought, but you raise some contradicting claims, I'm only curious as to what exactly you are saying. For example, that you are so broken that you actually works better than anyone else. That you are able to judge the mental state of the whole human race without any experience (because, seriously, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 02:26 PM
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Sanity being relative You should maybe grow up past this phase. This is the most tired and common trope that disturbed teenagers will keep rambling about. The relativity of things. This is the easy way out, the cope out to avoid any involvment, any decision. Any blow to the ego by possibly choosing the wrong side. You took the only uninteresting part of my post to answer too, that's too bad. I'm curious about your age. You sound extremely narcissistic, so I wonder if that's because you are still…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 01:43 PM
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that cognitive dissonance, rather than being harmful to me, allows me to succeed without looking like a jerk That cognitive dissonance is IMO absolutely needed and expected in a general sense in creating relationships. Men have to be the huge asshole that will take care of that woman, women have to be these big sluts that will sleep only with this man. This is flatting the ego of your partner, and this is what they seek by interacting with you (the sexual gratification is only an extension of it…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 12:03 PM
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one would have to have one's head up one's ass to think that hating women is the same as being decisive So what's up with TRP? Why do they hate women if being decisive is not the same thing? I'm blue pill, I'm decisive. My sole difference with TRP is that I'm not misogynistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/14 11:55 AM
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That's the problem, riiiiiiiight there.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 11:22 PM
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In short, people are attracted to confident, interesting, decisive people. And you assume TRP encompass these qualities? Get real. My reply: And yet here you are. Yes, and here you are. Using your logic, TBP is a bunch of alphas attracting you, giving you the need to try to prove them wrong. Wonderful logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/14 10:23 AM
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You take a quality post and you shit on it, touting and parading to your ability to turn a discussion in an insult contest. Good job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 09:59 PM
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It's okay for victim to harm themselves, that's why they have agency. A predator however will be judged. A man looking exclusively for younger women is seen as predatory, and is thus judged as such. Too bad for men that gender roles places them as predator and women as victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:09 PM
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engaging in cyber stalking of TRP, using hate speech against them Any proof of that? I'm not even subbed to TBP, I'm only a blue piller because I disagree with TRP. I call myself BP only to mock them and their futile polarization, technic they used to build their subreddit that I find despicable. The one sign showing that they do not care in the least about being fair and truthful while claiming detaining the absolute truth regarding human dynamics. Did I employ hate speech? Did I cyberstalk? Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 08:57 AM
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unlike most of TRP, I don't take you as some moral authority That's pretty comical. This reverses the dynamic, because I'm not a young redditor just discovering the "red pill" nor am I unfamiliar with the behavior of the types of people that like to populate TBP. The fact that you think disrespect carries authority is pretty laughable in itself. You are only projecting yourself as immature by doing so. Being respectful is not being submissive. Aside from the immature point, which I needed to mak…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 08:15 AM
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So, any generalization of feminism is proven wrong by a single exception? In that case, all your generalizations of TRP are wrong because you can find some exception. Not proven wrong. My point is that I did not defend these generalization, I did not deem them right. So why are you trying to justify the one from TRP by pointing them out? They're both wrong, period. I am critical of both, however this forum is about TRP, not feminism. As outlined by the fact that TBP is only half made of feminist…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 07:16 AM
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Yet feminists constantly say that every man and woman is better off in an "equal" relationship and anything other than an "equal" relationship is abusive. Which feminists? I am one, I don't say that, so now what? Why are their generalizations ok So this is a critic of feminism? I thought you were discussing TRP from a sub-dom standpoint, and why TBP critic of it was uncalled and hateful. Way to broad your claim. You did not at all explain this bit: "Please explain how wanting a submissive person…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 06:49 AM
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Clearly, for a lot of TRPs, that would be the only healthy dynamic. For these individuals it is A-ok to say that it is the only kind of relationship they seek. It is not when they try to theoretize this, make a social commentary and explain that every man and woman is better off in this kind of relationship. I know you understood what I wrote. You purposefully misrepresent it, and you know full well what you are doing. You are being intellectually dishonest, and as such this discussion is bound …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:45 AM
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Wanting a submissive person to be in a relationship? What's written is "to be in a relationship with". It's really only the dominant man, submissive woman dynamic that feminists have a problem with. Which feminists? And why suddenly talk about feminists when we were talking about TBP? Only half of BP is feminist. I'm feminist, I have no problem with a male dominated relationship. I have a problem with those that says that this is the only dynamic for a healthy relationship, as TRP does. Just tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 05:21 AM
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No, I am mocking them for their depiction of women as inferior. I have a pretty similar way of life (minus one or two thing), so I am hardly repulsed/fascinated. Stop fucking strawman-ing, you are doing this in every single post here, this is not constructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:55 AM
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The problem is that TRP is actually talking about "every single human interaction", not just their own.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:52 AM
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Please explain how wanting a submissive person to be in a relationship with is different from wanting to be dominant in this relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/14 04:50 AM
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How do you explain that other countries without such backward views on reproductive rights did not authorize this drug to be used? There isn't just the US here. Even in the US, other states with progressive politics did not authorize it either. Before telling that this is an anti-man agenda, maybe there are other reasons. What are the studies on this drug? Can it actually be made commercially available worldwide? Are we able to grow the plant in a controlled environment? There is a good effort m…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 07:55 AM
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So you get an example of actual male-on-female oppression, and your rationale about it is that "men can't get it either, why should we care if women can?". While, of course, the female birth control is an actual, effective and tested drug, while the only example you could find for a male one is a traditional bullshit? What the fuck? That's really too bad that we as human couldn't come up with a solution sooner, but you can't just equate the lack of male birth control with an actual organized att…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 07:36 AM
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Which male birth control are you talking about? Last I heard it was still in testing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/14 06:56 AM
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That's a wild statement right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/14 06:49 AM
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I am a bit of an asshole to both gender. I am extremely independant and introverted, and will never make an effort to bear the crap of people just to have someone to talk to. That being said, most of my friends are female. I have some male friends, but mostly they are just accointance from work and I have no real relationship with them. I absolutely hate locker room talk and pack mentality. I also cannot stand competitive and fratbro behavior. With my female friends, it is a little more mixed. S…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/14 03:57 PM
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How would that be accidentally agreeing with a Red Piller? I knew pretty well what were the achievement from the beginning. I'm serious when I say that I would not give a shit if you said that it was what happened to you yesterday or in recent years and what you were proud of. This is a system of values. I have completely different values. My point is that not every system is the same. I won't say mine is superior, that would be meaningless. My whole point is that some system of value just do no…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 02:39 PM
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Being the biggest piece of shit in the industry, while an achievement, is dubious. And yeah, buying this kind of car to show off and demonstrate your status IS superficial. Finally, climbing mountain just isn't how I would spend my free time, but to each their own. As for the getting in shape: if you call this being in shape. This is far from healthy. Actually I could extrapolate a trend here. While staying in shape is healthy, going to this kind of extreme is the result of a distorded mindset. …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 02:20 PM
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they portray the woman in strong places in life wielding a solid amount of influence over those around them. That must be some joke. the game that has been built by feminist ideals Maybe you should try to date a feminist, see if the game you are talking about is anything like you imagined. Spoiler: it is not. A feminist society has yet to be achieved. I don't see anyone saying they hate women, anywhere, at all. Funny, that's what I see everyday by bitter men, sometimes on internet forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:52 AM
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Funny how I see only superficial and pretty ridiculous achievement here instead of something "worth a struggle". Maybe that's why I don't need TRP to have a sense of purpose in life. My point is that, yeah, you can fight for what you want. But if what you want is something shitty, superficial and in the end the expression of a narcissistic personality, then you will stay narcissistic, bitter and struggling. Same goes for the hot girl that likes powerplay in her relationship. What a fucking bore …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:41 AM
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Yeah, exactly. Mainstream movies and music are heavily misogynistic and geared toward protecting women, women lacking agency, etc. TRP is actually reinforcing this, and when as BP we ask about it we get the answer 'I don't think I can change the world, I'm only abusing the system for my personal gain'. TRP and a patriarcal society are the one dictating men to be protectors and providers to women. If you are truly pissed off by this you should try becoming a feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 07:34 AM
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Imagine if there was a "masculinist" movement that constantly complained about women and then wore certain clothes or adopted certain grooming habits for the exact purpose of "sticking it to women." Ha!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 05:31 AM
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they're discovering that they've been lied to by everyone Reads like a conspiracy theory. Guess what, there is not a set of belief that is forced down your throat. There is what is PC, and that is what is meanstream because, yeah, this is PC. Then there is your own truth, which is entirely biased and personal. You blame the other for being liars and deceitful. Truth is, everyone is in the same boat and everyone tries to define his own set of principles. Some however do so while avoiding becoming…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/14 03:06 AM
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It appears to me as though blue pillers in general hold a very random or magic view of interactions with people. I'm not a blue piller (as in, I don't frequent TBP), I'm just not RP. However, I have my own set of rule, my own understanding. This understanding is simply extremely different than the one TRP advocates. You are saying here in substance that anything that doesn't go in your square is wrong because it is different. One could argue that it is some kind of magic thinking, in itself. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/14 04:41 PM
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Narcissism: 2 (20%) Machiavellianism: 2.3 (30%) Psychopathy: 1.3 (7%) I thought I would score higher on Narcissism, it was a problem of mine when I was a teenager (well, I think it's a common occurence among teenager, so it's not that surprising).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/14 11:47 PM
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And why do you want to define what she should rather be pursuing ? You don't like to be a slave to your boss ? Become a house-husband. You may find it more rewarding to play dumb in order to be happy. More power to you. Please just don't try to push your own life choice upon others.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/13 10:30 PM
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Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 08:05 PM
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You should include the comment you answered to, or even better, simply permalink to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/13 07:45 PM
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Why shouldn't successful women do the same as successful men do? No reason not to. I have no problem with them marrying down if they want to. What's the problem exactly? Men have been marrying down for centuries Well I'm happy to live in a post-gender-revolution society then, because I care fuck-all about marrying down. I wlil not provide stability, she better provide for herself. I abhorre dependence. Especially on me. Women have drastically increased the supply of workers, therefore the value …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 12:48 AM
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Essentially, the system of incentives and cultural pressures that forced men into being responsible heads of the household are no longer there in the same way. Yes, and TRP wants to shame "beta provider" for being responsible. TRP is polarizing and shameful for men, hateful for women. It's all about choices, freedom to choose. Yes, indeed. However TRP is all about "bettering yourself but in what we considere to be not shameful, otherwise you are a mangina-enabler feminist-member of the overall c…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/13 12:22 AM
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The source article for yours would best summarize my response : Not surprisingly, men and women often gave similar answers about what they liked to do (hanging out with friends) and didn’t like (paying bills). But there were also a number of activities that produced very different reactions from the two sexes — and one of them really stands out: Men apparently enjoy being with their parents, while women find time with their mom and dad to be slightly less pleasant than doing laundry. What has ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 11:47 PM
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Well, representing feminism by what a few of those who didn't understand it in the first place believed will not help you understand it. Feminism as a fascist stance is misguided, as is misguided the misogyny in TRP (the "if not moreso, arguably" part of your post). Not everyone can be an executive in a big corporation, actually very few have even the ambition to do so. As a male this is not at all my vision of a successful life. Letting a few woman competize for this kind of job is only justice…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 10:20 PM
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Well sometime TRP is extremelly frustrating, and it is absolutely not constructive to go on the sub and start to argue. TBP mostly helps to find some sanity, to know that you are not the only one to feel that they are crazy and to vent this frustration. Before TBP, I read a few of TRP brigade in /r/AskMen and was extremely disillusioned about the fact that they were seemingly largely supported or at least ignored. I had to unsub from /r/AskMen but I kept TBP as it seemed far less nefarious for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 10:07 PM
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There could always be some arguing about how to implement a policy practically, realistically, however here the formulation about the implementation is vague enough that there isn't really so much of a distance between the theory and the (defined) practice. So to tell that you are for one and not the other may very well be an attempt to misrepresent a position (a kind of fallacy, but I'm not sure which one), and would be somewhat intellectually dishonest. (Note : I am talking about the descripti…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/13 10:02 PM
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You are under the false assumption that feminists and MRA are fighting each other. They are not, or they should not. Feminism is promoting gender equality, and as such could be considered a part of egalitarianism. It is a specific answer to the key question that is the gender in an egalitarian society. So, how is it unfair to say otherwise? Unfair to whom? And again, TRP has absolutely nothing to do with the Men's right movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/13 06:50 PM
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The thing is, there is no real secret. There is no lies here about what exactly you should expect from anyone else. You should first and foremost expect respect, and the only necessary condition you have to meet for this is to have self-respect. "Beta" guys as TRP put it (which is completely different from the true Beta behavior) are just men lacking self-esteem who will ply against anyone that tries to profit from them. You will meet scumbag women and scumbag men who thinks they are entitled to…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/13 04:57 PM
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TRP is not men's right. Actually I'd argue that with its gendered views it contradicts any MR agenda. And the egalitarian view is the feminist one. As is the MRM one actually, which is a part of the struggle against patriarchy. The Red Pill IS the patriarchy, and both men and women that are against an unfair gendered treatment is thus organically against TRP and for feminism. The anti-feminism propaganda is extremely widespread in the US so usually Americans will get up against feminism without …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/13 04:47 PM
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How about your forget about the game and try to be genuine for two seconds? You're not forced to target a new fuckbuddy to simply talk to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/13 02:15 PM
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I'm getting that from the validation handed out to guys lost in their bias, seeing what they want to see, getting angry, hateful and misguided, and having a community saying to them "hey, actually that's a good thing to feel that way". And not only a good thing, but actually the only real thing that should be felt about today's society. So yeah, it's a place for validation of antisocial behavior without any checks. They are putting their head in the sand and touting hypocrisy while they can't se…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/13 01:48 PM
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This is extremely frustrating, because I feel like TRP is polarizing a debate that could be interesting and worth the dialog. This is the reason I guess the Men's Right Movement is taking its distance. I feel like there is a fallacy that is at the very source of TRP, and that in the end it is simply a "feel good" place, where any extreme reaction to the way society treats its member is validated. That is against every value I want to defend, and particularly any thing I feel being a man should b…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/13 01:03 AM
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The reason I was capitalizing truth in my OP was precisely that for me TRP defends a vision of human behavior that it takes as face value. It is for them the unabashed truth that should be the logical conclusion for anyone that is a free thinker and who is not afraid to go out of the morally accepted zone. And I simply am particularly wary of what exactly can be called truth in this kind of context. Your are right that we have to build a model to analyse, and to model something means that we kee…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 09:53 PM
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I am absolutly ok with that. Actually part of the point of this post is to clarify how talking about "a blue pill ideology" is extremely vague, and actually permits the one talking about it to simply put everything he wants there to easily counter any dissenting view.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/13 09:30 PM
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Well, saying that your argument is nonsensical suggests very strongly that your position is wrong, yeah. That is actually a very common fallacy : pointing out that an argument is wrong does not make the thesis wrong as well. The fact that it will be suggested to the audience however is where lies the fallacy, and it is what was pointed out exactly when mrsamsa said that you were suggesting that a position is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 01:13 AM
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I find an argument to be closer in term of semantic field to a contract than to the idea of a space personally. Also, simply because the example uses a contract does not mean that it is applicable only to legal contracts. Moreover, what mrsamsa said precisely was that you were suggesting that a position is wrong Saying that what someone uses as an argument is empty, means that it is entirely irrelevant to the current discussion and thus, his position is still wrong (nothing helped him defend his…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:51 AM
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Saying that an argument is void means that it is wrong. Can we at least agree about that? Because we could also throw the English language out the window and yell gibberish at each other if we can't even agree about basic semantic. Edit : Void : 1. not valid or legally binding. "the contract was void" 2. completely empty. "void spaces surround the tanks"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:28 AM
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Yes, and what ? We can all agree about that. But you could have said the same about rape only, we would have agreed all the same. What's the reason behind pointing out the equivalence with murder and robbery ? Is it because you think that the blue pillers you were arguing with cannot examine rape as a crime like any other, and is irremediably sentimental about it in his examination of the facts ? It seems like it in your original post. However, which facts are we talking about here ? That they a…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/13 12:25 AM
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And there is the vitriol of "ZOMG how can you not believe rapes happen every day?!!!" Despite the fact that my statement was a direct comparison to murder and robbery, all TBP can go off of is this 'every day' hang up. Well, to be fair, what was written in your post was In the real America, rape simply isn't an everyday occurence. So of course it would be misunderstood as "there are some days when no rape occurs in the US", when what you actually wanted to say was "for a typical woman, rape is n…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/13 11:27 PM
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You are assuming all women are attractive and actually pursued. This is not the case for a vast majority of them. As are actually pursued the most attractive men. This is pure fantasy that women just sleep around as much as they want. Fantasy perpetuated by frustrated men. Search for "average number of partners in the US". Please, show me any source that claims that women have more partners than men on average. There are frustrated women too. You would know if you actually talked to them instead…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 11:26 PM
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Should a woman be able to withhold sex for months at a time in order to leverage his biology against him into getting what she wants? Why would anyone, man or woman, endure this kind of treatment? It simply means that the relationship is not healthy, not healthy at all in the first place. I would seek marriage counceling and perhaps (well, given the lunatic behavior of the one withholding the sex) even simply consider the marriage over. Maybe the problem is more deeply rooted in how unhealthy so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 10:58 PM
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I'm pretty sure venting by saying "a stupid fucking Asian" actually makes you racist, despite your beliefs to the contrary. When you are angry you tend to lose the façade of PC you've coated yourself in.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 09:54 PM
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So, a shittest is a fitness test applied to sex? Why all these convoluted answers if that was so simple? Also, given that I've never read on TRP that a women gave another fitness test than a shittest, does that mean that a woman is always testing about sexual compatibility? Would that be linked to hypergamy for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/13 09:30 PM
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pretty open and non-censored sub Is it a joke? Why do I have a big red banner "Please do not vote or comment if you are not part of this community." next to the very first post I made here (in this thread, because the OP seemed like he wanted some alien viewpoints) ? Because I post in TBP? Well, so much for the non-censoring sub then. Way to be open.
/r/TheRedPill29/10/13 07:03 PM
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Well, I'm a man, and I really dislike TRP. I think I'm already banned from this subreddit, or at least shadow banned. If you are interested by an answer that doesn't come from the exact same state of mind that about every other one here, feel free to let me know.
/r/TheRedPill28/10/13 10:19 PM
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