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All situational, is it so packed everyone it pressed up against each other? I wouldn't think too much of it. Situation where she clearly didn't have to get that close? Definitely a sign.
/r/seduction24/05/18 03:12 AM
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It's all about preference. The best advice is to match how the other person texts because that's what they will be comfortable with, whether it's long or broken up. But that's advice for you guys, I always send one long ass text. It annoys the shit out of me having my phone blow up because you have to separate every thought with a new text. I would hate to be that guy to someone else.
/r/seduction25/04/18 05:36 AM
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Sure. In most cities there are brunch spots that are more drinking than brunch and they are usually identifiable with an unlimited bloody marry/mimosa menu option on Sundays. You get a fun social atmosphere with girls more open to meeting people because it's the afternoon on Sunday and not 3am at a club where you can't see or hear anything. Same goes for the events, think food festivals, beer tasting, art and wine festivals, outdoor concerts. I wouldn't really call it cold approach, I go there w…
/r/seduction31/01/18 03:05 PM
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If you get her number, get her social media (mainly Snapchat) as well. Use that pretty face to your advantage, let her show her friends "this hot guy I met". From there it's all about hanging out at a social event, you can't really meet a girl on campus in between classes and have her come back to your dorm. Before the event you can invite her over to pregame, that way after the event when you invite her back over, it's a familiar place and there isn't as much hesitation. If you meet her at a so…
/r/seduction31/01/18 02:11 PM
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In this day and age you don't have to tell her you're dating multiple women, if you guys haven't talked about being exclusive, it's implied you are both seeing other people. I would ask girl 1 what she's looking for, it will most likely be a relationship since you guys have been talking for awhile. This will allow you to bring up the fact that you don't know if that's what you are looking for and don't want to lead her on since you have been hanging out a lot recently. Reinforce the fact that yo…
/r/seduction31/01/18 01:31 PM
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Yea I agree, the amount of matches I would get on tinder dropped significantly and I'm not sure what the reason is either. Bumble seems to have better quality girls in my area, but the matches there were slow also. In addition to the drop in the amount of matches I would get, the quality of girls that I would match with dropped also. I deleted both apps recently and have been doing well at daytime events on the weekend and brunch spots that have more of a party vibe to them.
/r/seduction31/01/18 12:57 PM
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I haven't read models so I don't know what he means by "polarize girls" but I take it as just holding true to my beliefs despite potentially conflicting with the girls beliefs who I'm talking to. or even stating my beliefs confidently knowing they are in direct conflict with her beliefs. Example: Girl says, "I'm a huge fan of country music, do you listen to a lot of country?" Nonpolarizing response: "Yea I listen to some country when it comes on, it can be catchy" Polarizing Response: "No, I'm n…
/r/seduction26/01/18 06:51 PM
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It's not so much about body language, it's more about facial expressions and then action. I'm scanning the bar/venue, I catch eyes with a cute girl, I'll hold it for like 1 second. I'll keep scanning and eventually look back in her direction and usually catch eyes with her again, and this time I will hold and grin. Not like a seductive grin, but like "it's kinda funny we just caught eyes again grin" and then I will go over and start a conversation with her. Very few girls are going to approach y…
/r/seduction26/01/18 02:47 PM
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It really depends, how you think about it or try to implement it. If you think of it like a math formula, where she does "X", I say "Y" which will produce this exact result, no they won't actually work. If you think about it like sales training, where you learn a lot of different techniques to sway the buyer based on ques they give you, then some of the PUA advice can be valuable. During social interactions you have to be nimble, if you try and stick to a routine or set method you will crash and…
/r/seduction24/01/18 02:43 PM
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First you have to understand that everything isn't failure and success. Very few things are that black and white. You have to stop being a control freak, and realize that despite you doing everything right (in your eyes), that might not be the right agenda for the person your are talking to. Take a step back and asses the situation.
/r/seduction21/12/17 11:03 AM
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Who is setting these expectations? How will you be too old to have fun? People get divorced at 50 and have the most fun of their entire lives. 27, you still have your whole life ahead of you to have fun.
/r/seduction21/12/17 10:52 AM
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How great did that feel not having a code to live by or a set of rules that dictated when you did what or how you did it? A lot of new guys don't understand that, that they just have to be in the moment. I'm happy you took the basic outlines of this sub and applied them to the real world to have an awesome time. Have fun dancing!
/r/seduction21/12/17 10:41 AM
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I watched the video in its entirety, and the majority of it is shit, but there is a message in there that holds value. "Why are so many people scared of "NO's"? Stop taking "NO's" so personal, they happen to everyone.
/r/seduction21/12/17 10:26 AM
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Step 1) Don't get in the friend zone. Seriously, let her know your intentions, if she knows you're trying to fuck she probably won't be that friendly.
/r/seduction12/10/17 07:02 AM
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The movies is probably the worst thing you could have invited her to. Here's how you recover. Since you're a noob, which is 100% ok, find an exciting/scary/unexpected scene in the movie and use that to sort of lean into her and give you a reason to place your hand on her leg. The only reason I'm even telling you to wait for that scene is because it's going to feel awkward as fuck, but keep it there. During other exciting scenes squeeze her leg and look at her with a surprised/scared/amazed look.…
/r/seduction12/10/17 06:52 AM
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What ever you're doing at the time. If a chick send me a snap right now I would caption it "bored at work, is it time for happy hour yet?" Her: "lol I wish" You: "Tell me about it, do you have any plans after work/school/whatever this week?"
/r/seduction11/10/17 07:13 PM
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So this really only applies to a chick I just met because if a girl you're dating will leave you for a random guy she meets at the bar you should be happy that guy approached her and did you a favor. So, when it's a girl I just met and minimal attraction has been built you have to hop into the driver seat of the convo. Notice how this dude just sits back and lets Owen steer the convo anywhere he wants, you have to assert yourself as the ring leader. Start asking him questions, engage the girl in…
/r/seduction11/10/17 05:48 PM
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You only need one. Snapchat.
/r/seduction13/09/17 02:50 AM
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Always get her number. I can ask for her number and still have her leave the interaction with the mindset of "here's my number, I know you want to call me". The difference is, if she doesn't hit me up, I can still reach out to her.
/r/seduction23/08/17 11:24 PM
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"Good morning Julie, meet me for for drinks on Thursday evening, 8pm at the new bar in town.", when she says yes, respond "Lovely, I'll see you then, goodbye." And if this happens on a Monday, she's coming out for drinks with me on Thursday and bailing on you because I have been building comfort and rapport through text messages while you have been silent. Texting is such a major form of communication these days you would be silly to ignore it. I don't know why people hate texting, I can text wh…
/r/seduction14/06/17 03:40 PM
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When I get home I will, I appreciate you for not deleting this.
/r/seduction28/05/17 03:05 AM
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Let me start by saying your goal should never be to bring anyone down, ever. It's so petty and ridiculous. Also the thought among this community that a few backhanded insults are going to waver the confidence of a girl is crazy. If that's the case, she's actually not confident at all, and building her confidence would do more than trying to break it down further. Your goal should always be to enhance yourself, not try to cut someone down to your weak, fragile level.
/r/seduction27/05/17 02:00 PM
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I've never paid for sex, but I can't imagine it helps. It gives you a crutch. In an extreme case, I would imagine you might start rationalizing why you shouldn't go out and just pay a girl to come over. Spend $100 on uber, drinks, and food to get turned down 50 times or just pay someone. If you're frustrated, channel that frustration into improving, don't cop out by paying someone.
/r/seduction11/04/17 02:24 PM
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Really 1 to 3 times a year? That's a joke, I get hit on more than that. The point I'm making is you see this general advice tossed around so often "just approach" and eventually you will get better. Yea, no shit, but that doesn't help anyone. That's like me going to a baseball subreddit and asking how to become a better hitter and people telling me "just swing" eventually you will start hitting better. I'm just sick of seeing such broad unhelpful advice.
/r/seduction22/03/17 08:00 AM
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It's not negativity it's reality. Go out in any major city and just observe what goes on around you. The hottest girls in the venue will get hit on at least 5 times if not more. The fact that you believe just approaching in person will set you leagues ahead of 99% of guys out there is silly, it's not based on reality. You have to have substance to your approach and personality. Just talking to a girl in public thinking that she will want to get with you just because you had the balls to talk to …
/r/seduction22/03/17 06:26 AM
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I don't know, who's the best at marketing?
/r/seduction22/03/17 06:08 AM
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I have no idea what fantasy world you live in that girls only get hit on and have abundance through online dating. Any girl that's worth approaching in person is getting hit on multiple times while she's out, you're not going to be the Knight in shining armor that finally had the balls to talk to her, your going to be the 10th guy that is annoying the shit out of her while she's trying to have a fun night with her friends. It's so funny how this community thinks in black and white, your either a…
/r/seduction22/03/17 05:05 AM
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It's not about balls or being an asshole, it's about being socially aware enough to know if the situation is appropriate to say something like that. Obviously if you just met the girl, suggesting she take her close off usually isn't appropriate, but if you guys have been talking and laughing together for 10 minutes and you deliver the suggestion in a fun non creepy way it's fine. I hear what you're saying that a lot of guys that read this sub won't understand because they aren't socially calibra…
/r/seduction09/03/17 09:05 PM
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This is great advice, I was actually just trying to help my buddy with this the other day. The issue he was having though and what guys in here might do wrong is trying to bridge to large of a gap with something flirty and funny, that leaves the girl thinking "where the fuck did that come from". The examples given above were good, they weren't to much of a reach. Also to add to this, this is a great place to start, just look for those little cracks where you can throw in a flirty/sexual innuendo…
/r/seduction09/03/17 05:01 PM
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Haha alright, since you are into the post enough to actually respond, which I respect, I'll give you a few. Try guess each others ethnicity (Where are you from originally? WAIT, don't tell me, let me guess.) Same thing as number one but try and guess each others #1 travel destination. Did you ever play any sports? If she's even worth talking to she will 95% of the time ask you back....you were a 3x state thumb wars champion, when she doesn't believe you, play her. Those are 3 off the top of my h…
/r/seduction03/03/17 11:58 PM
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Well I don't know why they all say it, but it works because it's such an ambiguous assumption/question. Also depending on the girls they approach I'm guessing they look like the type of hipster esque chicks that actually do something creative and are ready to pour their hearts out telling you about the indie band sweaters they knit for stray cats or some random ass shit like that. Once they start gushing about their stupid ass "creative" hobby, just reassure them how cool that hobby is and how y…
/r/seduction03/03/17 11:49 PM
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I usually go with "hide the sausage".
/r/seduction03/03/17 11:36 PM
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Here's what happens with some guys, they open with a awkward or weird statement/gif. The girl responds in a joking/sarcastic way and guys just stay on that sarcastic joking conversation train for way to long. The girl goes from, ok this guy is cool and funny, to ok you've got my attention let's have a normal convo and plan something, to ok I'm over it this guy won't stop being sarcastic and have a normal conversation. That transition can happen very fast. Keep opening with what you open with but…
/r/seduction03/03/17 01:36 PM
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Hmm 3 years at that age really isn't a big deal at all. I mean I could sit here and guess reasons all day but there is an underlying reason why she just wants to be friends and I can't imagine it's solely age so I would ask her.
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:20 AM
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Hmm, strange situation. She thinks your cute, thinks you're nice enough or built enough rapport to want to hook you up with her friend, but isn't quite into you. When you say older how much older are we talking on this girl? I'm thinking you might not have come on strong enough, either way it's odd. I would ask this girl straight up what happened that made her want to be just friends and tell her to be 100% honest just to get some feedback.
/r/seduction03/03/17 05:11 AM
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1) Have you already hooked up with the first girl, if yes, threesome. 2) How hot is the friend? If hot, hook up with her and lay it down. They will definitely talk about it and peak the firsts girls interest again. 3) I'm not sure how close you are with girl 1 but it would seem fairly close if she's trying to set you up, like you said use the friend to hang out with girl 1 more, but I wouldn't use jealousy, I would actually start talking to girl 1 in a sexual way about girl 2. "So if I hooked up…
/r/seduction03/03/17 04:58 AM
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You have two options, you can either roll over and feel sorry for yourself and hope a girl comes a long and fucks you out of sheer pity...or you can suck that shit up and realize that sometimes life is tough and there are more girls out there than the 3 you're sweating over snapchat. It's tough, but snap out of it, you know you can get girls stop looking for pity, be a fucking champion.
/r/seduction03/03/17 04:41 AM
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Beautiful Post! A lot of people don't understand that about 85% of game advice is just fluff, bullshit, and rambling to make guys, that have no clue what actually goes on at night clubs, parties, and social interactions, think that there is this whole complex art that one must master, and if you don't follow it step by step you are doomed. You absolutely hit the nail on the head by stating "use your own reality as a filter" like if you don't think it's a good time to try and take the conversatio…
/r/seduction03/03/17 04:32 AM
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The comment was for other guys who think giving a girl a high five or a handshake will escalate the interaction , which it won't, you would still be at ground 0. Also no, I don't think I was the boring guy that gave you a lecture. I'm just trying to help guys out, no reason to get your panties in a bunch.
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:31 PM
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Could it lead to more sexual touching, possibly. Could it also not, possibly. The point I'm making is that touching her in a platonic way won't build any sexual tension, you are still at ground 0. The whole point of escalation is to get her juices flowing and shaking her hand or giving her a high five isn't doing that at all.
/r/seduction02/03/17 06:22 PM
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So the other day this happened, it was nuts! So I'm at the bar and I see this cute girl so I position myself to get a drink close to her, while I'm waiting for the bartender I ask her if she knows if they have any drink specials going on tonight. She replies with "I'm not sure, I don't come here often". I say "no worries, neither do I". Here's where it gets crazy, I hold my hand out and say, "I'm G_Refined by the way". She actually grabs my hand with a slightly firm grip and says "Nice to meet y…
/r/seduction02/03/17 04:53 AM
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Ehh I kinda disagree. I feel like girls are emotional and are so used to falling back on conversations like that, that they almost start doing it subconsciously whether they are attracted to you or not. It's your job though not to keep her in that state. You want to acknowledge her dilemma or struggle and then shift the convo to something fun or sexual. I agree you don't want to be the guy she goes to everytime she wants to vent, but to say girls only vent to guys they don't find attractive is a…
/r/seduction28/02/17 10:13 PM
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Idk, you make more friends?
/r/seduction23/02/17 09:40 PM
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I guess better wording woukd have been "The reason most guys turn to game". So you didn't have to learn game to get girls is basically reinforcing what I'm trying to say. Most guys with baseline social skills don't have to look into this stuff because they can get girls by just figuring it out from social expirences. Granted they aren't maximize their potential but they aren't guys who are frustrated because they have never kissed a girl.
/r/seduction23/02/17 06:59 PM
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Unfortunately there's no real cure other than hanging around hot girls more often so you are comfortable around them.
/r/seduction23/02/17 03:12 PM
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I find that usually happens when you repress your funny outgoing self to try and impress or be too perfect around the hot girl. Let those social juices flow baby!!
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:51 PM
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All the other social media are false idols. Snapchat is the one true God! Seriously I haven't posted a picture to FB or IG in ages. They aren't social platforms anymore, they are marketing platforms. IG is still very social based but still nothing beats snapchat in my opinion.
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:45 PM
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The reason people have to learn game is because for whatever reason they didn't develop baseline social skills throughout their life or have a very poor self image. The easiest way to describe the difference is with the image of surfing. If you have good social skills when that wave comes, aka you are in the interaction with the girl where ever the convo or interaction goes you have the experience to adapt and ride that wave out. If you don't have social skills, when that wave comes it's just go…
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:32 PM
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Also I think he's referring to the mindset that some people have of "use text to set up a date and that's it". I couldn't disagree with those people more. I'm able to build so much rapport through text and social media I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to use it. I agree with you though, if you start reading into it to much, "did she follow me back, why didn't she open my snapchat and not respond" stuff like that you have to work on mindset like you said. Also 100% agree, and just to reinfor…
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:16 PM
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While solid, showing your sense of humor can increase your "frame"?? I guess it's called even more. "Are you a virgin?" "Idk, depends what you consider a fleshlight" with a light chuckle. It almost like matches her shit test sarcasm and usually works well for me.
/r/seduction23/02/17 02:05 PM
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Well what do you feel goes wrong for you? How far into an interaction before you crash and burn? How are you approaching these girls? Is it an actual night club with crazy lights and super loud music or more of a bar atmosphere with some people dancing? Feel free to PM me or just reply here, but I would need to know a lot more info before figuring out where you need guidance.
/r/seduction22/02/17 07:30 PM
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Well first of all the girls I'm talking about where status and career come into play are girls I would most certainly want to see more than one night. I'm talking about getting upper echelon girls that you are competing with athletes, celebrities, and multi-millionaires for. Don't get me wrong, I totally agree the hot girl at the local bar who is still probably a 7-9 doesn't care if you have a great job as long as your fun and have at least enough money to do fun things occasionally. So in that …
/r/seduction22/02/17 05:46 PM
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In my opinion, inner game is everything that is abstract about you. Confidence, charisma, sense of humor, neediness, basically your personality. I don't think career or hobbies have anything to do with inner game at all, but I do agree they help a ton, just like looks. Inner game is the true path to ongoing success with women, routines and lines which I guess you consider outer game are ways to artificially create attraction that inner game does naturally. The stuff like job and hobbies are just…
/r/seduction22/02/17 03:58 PM
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Just following her after she leaves would be weird. In a situation like that where her friends want to go to a different part of the venue or a different venue altogether the two options you have depend on how much rapport you have with her friends and how much rapport she has with her friends. There's one type of friend group where they look at for each other and if the girl has one drink the rest of the girls make sure she's "not drunk and being taken advantage of" so like literally any guy th…
/r/seduction22/02/17 03:27 PM
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TL;DW Don't view the night as a linear, it can be chaotic and all over the place. Learn to recognize when the girl is into you and pull her then, don't wait until the end of the night. Always pull back to your house. Don't linger when going to your place. Honestly, I'm jealous you get paid to teach guys this stuff. You have inspired me to become a coach because if people pay for this basic info I'm going to be rich.
/r/seduction21/02/17 06:33 PM
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You have to get out of your comfort zone. Take in what traits people are gravitating towards and look to replicate those traits in your own way. Hang out with people that aren't like you. Go to business networking events, meet ups, and social events, you'll start to notice what traits people gravitate towards start replicating these traits until they become a part of you.
/r/seduction21/02/17 02:20 PM
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This is a side effect of working out, but I think it merits its own comment, stand up straight and have good posture.
/r/seduction21/02/17 02:29 AM
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Very true, I once told a girl she should pick her wedgie (would not recommend) and proceeded to get her number. I was a little drunk. Moral of the story, you CAN open with anything, but I would recommend filtering it at least a little.
/r/seduction20/02/17 06:56 PM
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Well not one of those guys, but I think the main thing these guys should know and a lot of new guys should realize is that "seduction" or "game" isn't a quick fix. I see a lot of new guys looking for lines or routines that they think they can use to magically get a girl to like them and that's just not the case. The short, fat, ugly guys I know that consistently get girls are guys that are actually fun and have a great personality, which is something you most certainly can change and improve, it…
/r/seduction20/02/17 06:44 PM
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Stay single more, not really. Settle less, absolutely. I can't speak for other guys but I know for myself I am 100% happy with myself and it takes a very fun, awesome girl to add to or compliment my happiness. I feel like a lot of guys turn to game because they aren't happy with themselves and need something external aka a girl to rise them up to a certain level of happiness. The reason it seems like guys who get girls stay single or don't settle is because they have the internal happiness and c…
/r/seduction20/02/17 02:56 PM
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Ok, I'm going to write a detailed post on this later since a ton of people ask me what to do in this situation. Long story short, add them on snapchat. You should ideally do this at the start when she will add you back before she goes cold, just so you have a way to passively follow-up with her. The basic gist is to stay top of mind or at least have it feel like she's still connected with you. If you post a story and she views it you are staying in touch with her without actively talking to her …
/r/seduction10/02/17 08:02 PM
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You can increase the amount of responses by taking a genuine interest in the person. If the majority of your convos are "hey, are you currently single? Awesome, I thought you looked (interesting, pretty, fun, etc) and wanted to take you out some time would that be cool? Sweet, well what's your number?" You aren't really forming any sort of connection or reason for her to want to hang out with you again. Now if you are having convos of substance and are still getting a low response, I would look …
/r/seduction07/02/17 09:44 PM
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You are correct, looks do matter. Better wording would have been looks aren't 100% prohibitive.
/r/seduction07/02/17 09:28 PM
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Don't listen to these clowns that read and read and read and have no clue how the real world works. Don't cold approach in high school, people will think you're weird because they are high schoolers and that's not how high school works. There is no social value system stronger than a high school, everything is predicated on who you know, what sports you play and who you're friends with. If you're at the low end of that social totem pole work on climbing it, otherwise the girls at the top won't b…
/r/seduction07/02/17 07:26 PM
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I don't know if you meant to reply to me or the comment above me, but I agreed with you, looks don't matter but they can be an advantage.
/r/seduction07/02/17 07:19 PM
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Leagues do exist and so does the friend zone. Would you date a stripper? Well then you just put her in a league below your own. Would go to happy hour with a coworker but never try and hit on her? Well you just put her into the friend zone. They both definitely exist.
/r/seduction07/02/17 07:16 PM
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I haven't seen House, but Archer is my favorite. As long as the person knows when you're joking.
/r/seduction07/02/17 07:07 PM
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It's like saying height doesn't matter in the NBA, it doesn't. You have players from sub 6' to over 7'. Is it a huge advantage though? Absolutely.
/r/seduction07/02/17 07:00 PM
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I just posted this in another thread. Well if you have a full time job, welcome to the weekend warrior lifestyle. Friday happy hour is your new best friend, Saturday night is game time, and Sunday brunch if you're a real go-getter. Set up casual dates after work and refill your pipeline on the weekends. There's opportunity, just in different places.
/r/seduction03/02/17 07:01 AM
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Well if you have a full time job, welcome to the weekend warrior lifestyle. Friday happy hour is your new best friend, Saturday night is game time, and Sunday brunch if you're a real go-getter. Set up casual dates after work and refill your pipeline on the weekends. There's opportunity, just in different places.
/r/seduction03/02/17 06:45 AM
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Where did this take place, a college campus? One, the opening is weak that's some like middle school shit. Also it contradicts your intention, if this guy was really looking for his friend, why is he still here talking to us. Second, when opening a group you have to look at the dynamic, are they standing in a circle closed off to everyone else? It's probably because they don't want to interact with other people, granted some people do it subconsciously it's still a strong indicator for being clo…
/r/seduction03/02/17 06:29 AM
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There is literally a fucking wall of text as the number one or two post right now that goes over "how to talk to women". I don't know if it's good or not but I would probably start there.
/r/seduction03/02/17 06:01 AM
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Everyone has their own style, but to me you're still to blunt, like you bullrush to hard. You need to sit back and be present in the interaction rather than just always trying to dominate the conversation. I would imagine you do this mainly for the videos since you don't want them to be so long, but when you're not filming I would slow it down and actually invest more into the interaction.
/r/seduction27/01/17 05:08 PM
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Well he games in a college town, so in that bubble it's a joke like "yea, I'm not a 20 year old sophomore, I'm an old man, I'm 26." because I would imagine most of the girls he approaches are 18-22 and still in undergrad.
/r/seduction27/01/17 04:31 PM
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Some people aren't used to random social interactions so to them it's crazy to even playfully socialize. I don't know the girl you were with at all but I would assume she isn't a social butterfly. She's probably never started a random conversation with people and is calling you crazy to protect herself from any negative feedback. She just doesn't get it. It happens all the time with people that aren't accustom to things.
/r/seduction27/01/17 04:21 PM
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I doubt she was cock blocking you. Think about what you would say if a wingman approached a group of girls with you and just started talking out of his ass about stuff you don't really relate to. You would tell the girls "this guy is crazy". People use it to detach themselves from association. If you were talking some wild shit, she probably didn't want to be associated with whatever you were saying, even if the other girls were loving it.
/r/seduction27/01/17 02:51 PM
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Because the outside world should have no affect on how you feel about yourself. Hence "inner game". If a fat, unattractive, lazy, unambitious guy is happy with himself he wouldn't need the gratification of pulling 10s. If pulling 10s makes him happy then he needs to conform to what 10s like. Then it comes down to what makes him happier, pulling 10 or being a fat, unattractive, unkempt slob.
/r/seduction20/01/17 11:17 PM
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Realize what you're asking. How does a fat, lazy, unattractive, broke, loser get a smoking hot 10? He doesn't! There are no lines, techniques, charm or charisma that will help him. You know why? Because those are all characteristics of someone who doesn't like themselves. How do you expect any girl to like you when YOU don't even like you?
/r/seduction20/01/17 10:20 PM
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Befriend that bartender! Most bartenders work with other hot girls, have other bartender friends at bars in town they can introduce you to, and before you know it you have social capital in most bars you walk into because you know the bartenders.
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:28 PM
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What you have to realize is that David Deangelo is a marketer first. Not saying his teachings aren't good (I don't know, I've never looked into him), but that's just a persona Eben Pagan uses to sell dating course. He is much more popular in the online marketing community so I would be a little skeptical of his dating programs.
/r/seduction20/01/17 05:24 PM
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Who is hosting the party, is it a friend? Ask them to introduce you to people there. Make sure you remember their names. After you can circle back and open anyone there with the line "so how do you know [name of party host]. Is it just a general party and you don't know to many people, start introducing yourself to people you are standing near and engage in group conversation if there is a girl you are interested in as part of the convo direct questions at her and make sure you keep her included…
/r/seduction20/01/17 05:16 PM
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Well if she saw you come down stairs and actively moved away from you that's not a good sign. At that point I would not have continued to pursue her. Let's say she doesn't though and she just keeps dancing with her friend, I would immediately re-engage her and try and start dancing with her. If she wasn't having it then there really isn't anything you can do. The only other option is to have fun in a space she can see, dancing with other girls, show her you are a fun person, and gravitate over t…
/r/seduction20/01/17 07:18 AM
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Sometimes there's nothing you can do but accept the social clues she is giving you and move on. Honestly, if you told her to meet you after the bathroom and she didn't that's her loss. To answer all your questions though, you're looking at the wrong area of the interaction. It's not what you could have done after the bathroom, but what you needed to do before to stop the whole situation from occurring in the first place. If you were able to build attraction and rapport before she left should wou…
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:51 AM
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Lol that whole crowd and TheRedPill crowd are like the radicals of dating and attraction. Honestly some of the stuff I hear out of that mindset is borderline insane. Most men in that community are warped and delusional that the pain they experience from their own insecurities come from women so they talk about them negatively instead of looking in the mirror. They are the male version of radical feminism, I would highly recommended avoided that mindset.
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:36 AM
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Disclaimer: Never taken a boot camp. Please do not spend $2k-$3k on a boot camp. You can go out every Friday and Saturday and spend $100 per night for 10 weeks straight or take this boot camp. 10 weeks going out every Friday and Saturday night will give you way more experience than any boot camp will. Set some goals for your first week out, try and hit them, and during the following week reflect on what you need to improve on and what you did well. I promise you over 10 weeks if you're serious a…
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:26 AM
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So does this actually happen or are you making it up in your head? I've never heard a girl outright say to someone they just met "you always say stupid things" but yet almost every girl you meet says it to you? Did she actually say that or did you just assume she meant that? Now, I don't know if this will help you because you might actually just spew dumb shit out of your mouth to everyone you talk to, buy one of the biggest things that can help men with their confidence is to start taking thing…
/r/seduction20/01/17 06:08 AM
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I feel ya. You played that well. At this point if you do end up going out this weekend post some fun videos on snapchat and see if she's watching them, maybe hit her with a direct Snap of you taking a shot or something and see how she responds.
/r/seduction19/01/17 03:33 PM
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I didn't watch the video, but for night game, this entire post couldn't be further from what you need to do to pull. Here is the secret of night game. You must build COMFORT and TRUST in a ridiculously short amount of time. Why do most guys that are new to this only close on day 2+? It's because they haven't mastered how to build trust and comfort quickly so they need multiple dates to get it up to a level that a girl is comfortable with. If she has to wake up early, so do you. "What time do you…
/r/seduction19/01/17 03:20 PM
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Really? How, like what was the interaction like?
/r/seduction19/01/17 02:15 PM
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Well it could have been your breath, it could have been that you held the kiss to long, are a shitty kisser, or it could have been that she was nervous. Either way, you are correct that you should have seeded something at dinner and established a reason for you to come upstairs while you were still at the restaurant. A rule of thumb I have for kissing is always break the kiss first, that way you leave her wanting more, not you wanting more. You now have the power and she is asking herself all th…
/r/seduction18/01/17 04:06 AM
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So basically from A to Z. I'll PM you.
/r/seduction18/01/17 01:17 AM
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So what specifically are you looking to improve on, texting?
/r/seduction18/01/17 01:04 AM
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I think you're example drives home the fact that "it's not what you say, it's how you say it" even more. ''I think you're 10lbs of fun in a 5lb bag! I'm kind of close too adopting you'' I mean, what the fuck does that even mean lol.
/r/seduction18/01/17 12:38 AM
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If I were to summarize all the inner game advice it would be be confident, be the buyer, lift, dress nice, have a nice life style, good personality, self improvement. Routines only work because they give men the confidence to express these traits that they already have. It's like the special drink they pass around in Space Jam. By them using a routine that someone told them works it allows them to be confident and let their personality go to work, because they have faith in the routine. If they …
/r/seduction18/01/17 12:27 AM
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While I agree that there are women who want men from a certain class you shouldn't base your own standing with them strictly on your assumptions. For example, you meet a women who is a prominent lawyer, drives a new car upwards of 80k and lives in a dope condo you would assume she wants to date someone in her same "class" but in reality all she wants to do is take care of someone so now you just missed an ideal opportunity based on your own assumptions that were untrue. Now does that happen ofte…
/r/seduction17/01/17 12:19 AM
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"It was cool seeing you at "name of bar", it would be funny if we just happened to run into each other again at "another bars name" this Thursday at 8:15 lol."
/r/seduction14/01/17 02:42 PM
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"Are we hanging out tonight or what?" "Still down to kick it tonight?" "What's the plan, are we still hanging out?" "Still good for tonight?" I'm literally about to do this myself with a girl I have plans with at 8.
/r/seduction13/01/17 10:12 PM
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So many questions, so little time. Are you guys going to be drinking? Big house party or little house party? Are you trying to bang her tonight or just kiss and build rapport? First you should set it up so she comes to your place and then you roll together so she comes back to your place at the end of the night. If you're drinking pregame at your place, get enough to have leftovers so if the party is lame you can bring her and her friends back to your place to hang out and party. Big house party…
/r/seduction13/01/17 09:36 PM
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Haha this post was hilarious, thank you. The link at the bottom was the cherry on top. Well done.
/r/seduction13/01/17 09:13 PM
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Here is the problem I have going to the club early. I don't want to be there for 5 hours and in my experience girls don't want to leave early no matter how into you she is. She went to have fun and party with her friends not leave an hour after she got there to go bang a dude she just met. Because of these two things I like to go later in the night. Everyone is already having fun, people have already been there for awhile so they are more prone to want to leave, either home or to another venue. …
/r/seduction13/01/17 02:39 AM
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It's going to sound cliche, but read or reread how to win friends and influence people.
/r/seduction12/01/17 02:17 PM
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No, you can still definitely get laid just consider most people prefer someone in the same socioeconomic tier as them or to date up. I wouldn't stop online dating but I wouldn't focus on it. There is WAY more competition online. Not many guys would just approach a girl they thought was pretty in person, but no one online is scared to send a message so women can be way more selective. The best advice I could give you is to have confidence in what you do and own it. Also, don't ever become stagnan…
/r/seduction12/01/17 02:03 PM
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I obviously didn't see the interaction, but you usually get those free sessions so the trainer can try and sell you on personal training sessions. I would say the majority of the time the trainers, especially hot ones are very nice and flirty so you buy personal training sessions from them. I would have tried to gather more info throughout the free session to determine if she was into me or just trying to butter me up so I bought training sessions with her. Without more into it's tough to tell i…
/r/seduction10/01/17 08:00 AM
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The magic words, "what days are you free?" She'll probably give you two days, tell her which day works best for you and a time. Example: "I'm free Thursday night and all day Sunday" "Cool, well I can't do Thursday night so how about we do blah blah blah Sunday at 4pm?" If she says she doesn't know what days she will be free that's basically saying "I might want to hang out with you if I feel like it that day and nothing better comes up" so at that point you need to build more attraction so she a…
/r/seduction10/01/17 07:50 AM
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Your answer isn't humorous and it comes off as extremely insecure. Your job obviously matters to a certain extent, it just depends on the girl and how you word it and play it off. If I worked at Chipotle making burritos I would probably say something like "I work in the restaurant industry" or just straight up like "I'm a burrito master at Chipotle". For girls it's not so much the job, it's the motivation behind it. If you work at McDonald's while you are in law school, McDonald's doesn't matter…
/r/seduction10/01/17 07:40 AM
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"I really want to start 2017 with a bang! Don't you?" "Of course!" "Wooooo (high five her), so we banging at my place or yours?" Your welcome.
/r/seduction28/12/16 02:30 AM
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Every major city has people that go out on a regular basis that are no longer in school. Dude in major city's there are large groups of friends that go out often, are looking to make new friends, and the hookup culture is alive and kicking into their 50's! How hard would it be to get into that crowd? Not hard at all, and it's not just one crowd, there are multiple social circles like that in cities. Go out and socialize, join a drinking kickball league, go on like brewery tours. People that like…
/r/seduction27/12/16 11:42 PM
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The questions in this thread are all extremely platonic. If it's a date you need to take it a least somewhat sexual. From order of least bold to most bold here are 3 questions you could use to carry on the conversation towards a sexual convo. 1) Who is your celebrity crush, if you met him out and he wanted to take you home, would you go? 2) What turns you on the most? Like the way a guy holds you, neck kisses, what does it for you? 3) What would be the hottest place for you to have sex, like tha…
/r/seduction26/12/16 09:31 PM
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You just have to be patient, the girl will come along. All the reasons you posted are the reasons you can fall in love. When the perfect girl (for you) comes along all these things will be a non-issue. You will realize that for some reason this girl is different and you won't give a shit about the rest of the potential girls. Because you have been through this gauntlet of subpar women you will realize how special this one girl is and will do whatever it takes to keep her. Trust me, you'll know w…
/r/seduction26/12/16 06:43 PM
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I don't think that urge ever goes away, it's just that your urge to be with and please your wife or gf, is stronger than your urge to bang other chicks. If that ever tips in the other direction for a prolonged period of time, it's time to move on.
/r/seduction16/12/16 08:12 PM
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This is a comment I left a guy from another post. In a loud club let your non-verbal game do the work. Here is the easiest transition from dancing, to kissing. She's usually grinding on you, so unless you're fucking Dhalsim from street fighter you're not going to kiss her unless you spin her around, not a bad option but not the best in my opinion. Best option is while you're dancing get close to her, like almost cheek to cheek, kiss and lightly bite/suck (sounds weird as fuck when I type it) her…
/r/seduction14/12/16 09:13 PM
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If there is like an outdoor terrace ask her to come with you to get some fresh air. Ask her to come with you to get some water, anything really. It's so loud on the dance floor, let's go somewhere that I can hear you. As for pulling, my usual club progression goes like this. Strike up convo by the bar or an area where people aren't dancing, talk to the girl get her interested and then bring her to the dance floor, from there escalate, kisses on the neck, make out etc, then back to a quite place …
/r/seduction13/12/16 09:13 PM
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Well flirting and eye contact are two different things. Since the main goal of your post is eye contact I'll stick to that. You want to get used to making eye contact with everyone and you want to do it with a positive face, like a slight smile. When you make eye contact with a straight face you appear upset or it comes off like you're staring. When you make eye contact you can increase your smile slightly to break the tension. Eye contact with people shows that you are confident. As you go thro…
/r/seduction13/12/16 09:02 PM
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Well you don't have to buy her drinks at said happy hour and if you're really concerned about it look up local bars in your area and find out which ones have ladies night and take her to one on those nights. If she's giving off the party girl vibe she's going to want to drink.
/r/seduction13/12/16 02:52 PM
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I would just say that, exactly like you typed it. Sounds like a pretty smooth line. I would imagine she pulls you into a janitors closet and fucks you right on the spot after telling her she seems like a slut so you want to bang her. Seriously dude I don't even know where to start if you think there is a proper way to say the sentence you typed. A lot of us THINK the same thing when we see a chick or just meet a chick but we don't say shit like that. The proper way to go about it would be "you s…
/r/seduction13/12/16 02:23 PM
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Disney World, Asians love that shit. On a serious note, I have no clue. I would go wherever the most people go and hope you see a girl you like.
/r/seduction09/12/16 07:22 PM
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"What are you plans this weekend, I want to take you out"
/r/seduction08/12/16 08:26 PM
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Definitely wants her friends approval. You're good, don't over think it.
/r/seduction08/12/16 08:25 PM
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Depends how your relationship is set up, have you guys talked about not seeing other people? If so then you need to explain to her that you want to date around. The key here is, don't have that conversation until you have another girl you're about to sleep with. If it's understood by both of you that this is a casual dating relationship and you have never talked about being exclusive, it's usually understood that it's fair game to talk and date other people. I would keep her around until she sta…
/r/seduction08/12/16 01:54 PM
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Your profile could be way more interesting. Add some humor and go into more interesting things that you're into. As for your picture, I don't think you're ugly but that picture isn't doing you any favors, it makes you look like a lesbian. Make your profile more interesting and change your picture and you should be fine.
/r/seduction08/12/16 06:06 AM
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It's no so much that a type of voice is attractive, just some are annoying as shit. That's my opinion at least.
/r/seduction08/12/16 06:01 AM
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If she has a good career, what else can you offer her? Value comes in many forms, not just monetary.
/r/seduction08/12/16 04:18 AM
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So it's definitely a delicate dance. You want to come off as fun and friendly, but inject sexual comments or innuendos into your conversation. It's kind of like the price is right, you want to push her sexual boundary without going over. To do this start off slow and gauge how she reacts to a question that could have a sexual connotation to it. You can frame it either way based on your perception of the girl. Good Girl Frame- "So you like to go out with friends huh? You seem like a girl that let…
/r/seduction08/12/16 03:58 AM
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Yes I can relate to this 100%. Same boat, started a new business, work on it a ton of hours, don't have a ton of money to go on dates, and I'm not looking to start a relationship so I'm not looking to date in the tradition sense. I still want to get laid, so I take the lazy road. Online dating, and the dates are usually something I enjoy doing, shooting pool, arcade, bar, or bowling. Seems pretty standard so far but the trick is to only go on dates when you know the girl is dtf. I establish what…
/r/seduction08/12/16 12:10 AM
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Yes I agree, but it also depends what age range. 18-25 path to a career is fine, after that it starts having diminishing returns each year you get older.
/r/seduction07/12/16 05:52 AM
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I agree a lot of time, showing up, or approaching is all you need and everything else just seems to fall into place, but for a lot of guys on this sub that doesn't happen very often so they need tips and advice to sway the interaction in their favor. This video doesn't give them any of that, it's just a dude who approached, had a normal convo minus the curse words every other sentence (which would be a turn off more than turn on for most women], and didn't blow it by saying anything stupid or ba…
/r/seduction07/12/16 05:44 AM
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Money/Career Fun outgoing personality In shape Fashion sense Sex appeal
/r/seduction07/12/16 04:21 AM
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Really just two words. Happy hour.
/r/seduction07/12/16 04:14 AM
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I'll take a shot at explaining. Pick-up is kinda like sales, there are good sales tactics, bad sales tactics, and sales where a customer walks in the door ready to buy. The pickup tactics in the video aren't bad, but they aren't particularly good either, but they don't have to be, because the girl is predisposed to buy. There was 0 resistance from the girl. Not saying that this guy doesn't have the skills to overcome objections, but they aren't displayed in this video. I hate the fact that peopl…
/r/seduction07/12/16 04:01 AM
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No worries. Have fun in Vegas!
/r/seduction07/12/16 03:33 AM
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In a loud club let your non-verbal game do the work. Here is the easiest transition from dancing, to kissing, to banging. She's usually grinding on you, so unless you're fucking Dhalsim from street fighter you're not going to kiss her unless you spin her around, not a bad option but not the best in my opinion. Best option is while you're dancing get close to her, like almost cheek to cheek, kiss and lightly bite/suck (sounds weird as fuck when I type it) her neck keep in mind you are both facing…
/r/seduction06/12/16 11:42 PM
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While I think it's good you set a goal on your approaches you shouldn't focus on the number of sets you open, you should focus on how well the sets went and focus on what you want to accomplish by opening the set in the first place. I see a lot of guys go out with a goal to open a certain amount of sets, instead of a goal of changing locations with the girl, or getting a girls phone number and they wind up having casual platonic conversations instead of trying to escalate the conversation becaus…
/r/seduction08/10/16 08:13 PM
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I don't think it's a total loss, but you have to slow play it now. You had your opportunity and it passed you by, now you have to wait for the next window of opportunity to appear, with the key word being wait. If you keep inviting her out, she's going to keep blowing you off. Why? Because she knows next Wednesday or Friday you're going to hit her up like clock-work, why does she need to hang out with you this time when she knows she's getting another opportunity in 2 days. You either have to wa…
/r/seduction06/10/16 07:36 AM
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In my opinion, you can't let the attraction die from the first interaction to the second or you're starting from square 1 again. To maintain the attraction you have to keep her attention through texting, social media, phone calls whatever both your preferred medium is so the next time you meet up, you are right where you left off. The reason you probably aren't building sexual tension well is you are too scared to lose her. You want to build sexual tension but you don't because you are tip-toein…
/r/seduction06/10/16 06:13 AM
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Should have closed the first Thursday. Stop hitting her up, start posting fun stuff on social media so she sees you are still going out and having fun without her. You will either run into each other out, or she will hit you up saying she's going to the same spot you are and that you guys should meet up. In the mean time meet more really cute girls.
/r/seduction06/10/16 06:03 AM
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At this point I would probably just pack it all up and head off the grid. I'm kidding, but it's tricky to learn these things because everyone is different with how much attention they want to receive. When you get a new phone number, get a new Snapchat it's an educated guess based off the girls personality on where the perfect balance of attention and distance meet. My rule is one text, if I don't get a response, depending on how much I want to see the girl I will try one more text after anywher…
/r/seduction06/10/16 05:41 AM
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Much better video! From a guy who hated your 10 minute open to close video, this video actually gives people actionable advice that can be applied in a wide range of situations. The smile, eye contact, and body language you talk about are the little things most people don't get right, but make a big difference. Well done.
/r/seduction05/10/16 05:17 PM
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So you're saying that through experience someone would learn to make stronger eye contact? But I thought they didn't need to learn something like that. I thought people just either form a connection or they don't.
/r/seduction05/10/16 04:35 PM
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I don't know how straight forward the joke was but if it wasn't to bad you could always try and flip it back around. "What wasn't subtle? Oh my god, you though that was a sexual innuendo, geez, and I though I had a dirty mind haha". The response stated in previous comments is solid also if you're at the point, if this is still kinda fresh and you haven't taken the convo that sexual yet that response might be turning the dial a little to fast. Really hard to tell without context.
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:36 AM
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This is officially the dumbest shit I have ever read on this sub. What do you think goes into connecting well with a person? Do you think you're going to form a connection with someone looking past them or at the ground the entire conversation? Do you think you are going to connect with someone stumbling over your words as your voice quivers? Maybe on the off chance you meet someone as socially awkward as yourself, but you would be leaving that up to sheer luck. You can keep floundering from wom…
/r/seduction05/10/16 07:09 AM
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Awesome post! Like you said, a lot of the stuff you mention can be used in other areas besides a climbing gym. Finally some solid content.
/r/seduction05/10/16 06:50 AM
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Always better to get the phone number. Not only is it more personal but Snapchat is tied to your contacts so a number is essentially both. The least creepiest way would be to ask.
/r/seduction05/10/16 06:41 AM
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There are elements of both. Changes in yourself such as eye contact, posture, and thinking highly of yourself are a change in habits. Becoming a conversationalist, connecting with people, gaining trust, reading social signals and body language of other people are skills. In my experience communication is key, not just what you say, but your actions as well. The way you look at someone or the way you touch someone communicates a lot and one of the major things I see in new guys that are looking t…
/r/seduction05/10/16 06:34 AM
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If I'm going to be really nitpicky, your smile is too big in the second picture. Yes, you're a fairly attractive guy, but the girls you are interacting with already said no thank you. When it comes to looks everyone has their preference. It would be like a girl in person telling you, you're not their type and then having a mutual friend set up a blind date with the same girl, how well do you think that will go? If you want to up your Tinder game, get better pictures and list a witty profile, oth…
/r/seduction05/10/16 02:24 AM
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If you've done 20,000 approaches you should have realized there is no difference in the way you attract average girls vs "elite" girls.
/r/seduction30/09/16 10:15 PM
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See, that's the disconnect most guys have "acting confident" rather than being confident. You can't just flip a switch and say, today, I'm going to be confident. It's something you have to internalize and work on every day to build it up and maintain it. The people who respond with disdain to people "acting" confident when they feel they shouldn't be is because they are acting and not coming across as genuinely confident. Confidence isn't something you think about, it comes from being a genuinel…
/r/seduction30/09/16 09:10 PM
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There is not a certain lingo that popular and socially up to date people speak, what makes you think that? While confidence doesn't literally teach you anything, it allows you to think and function in a way that makes the "elite girls" as you call them, just girls. The only difference between an "elite girl" and a regular girl is YOUR perception of them. If you raise the perception of yourself, you will realize you are on the same plane as the girls you consider "elite" and that the same ways yo…
/r/seduction30/09/16 07:55 PM
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Well I was going to try and help but I feel like this is out of my league. I think you should seek professional help, seriously. Wanting to potentially kidnap a girl to have her be with you is the thought of someone who is mentally unstable. If this wasn't exaggerated please seek professional help before you do something crazy.
/r/seduction30/09/16 07:32 PM
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So why just this one girl, what is it about her?
/r/seduction30/09/16 07:17 PM
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Everything about male self-improvement is about getting specific girls you like. The point of self-improvement is to have the confidence and social skills to get people attracted to you. Whether you use that to get laid and date around, use it to attract a long term girl friend/wife, or use it to attract business prospects/clients is up to you, but the skills, techniques, and outlook are the same when building initial attraction.
/r/seduction30/09/16 07:14 PM
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I'm not sure if the clubs guys go to on this sub are louder than the bars and clubs I go to, but I never have trouble hear during a conversation. Sure it's loud, but it's definitely not to loud to have a conversation, you just have to get closer to her and actually pay attention to what she is saying. You're not going to have a conversation an arms length away from someone in a loud bar or club, you have to be practically hugging the person, but in a loud bar or club this is normal, people won't…
/r/seduction30/09/16 06:42 PM
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The reason I hate most of these videos is because they are misleading, especially to guys with little to no experience. You don't have to be a bit of a douche to get girls attracted to you, that's ridiculous. The stuff that this guy does and says in this video would not attract the majority of women and you get new guys watching this shit and getting shut down over and over and wonder what's going wrong. It's because they are trying techniques that would only work on a certain type of girl in a …
/r/seduction29/09/16 05:32 PM
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These are getting so stale. If this guys goes out at night in any major city I guarantee you he gets ripped alive. This isn't good game, this is purely situational. He just happened to approach the girl that gives 0 fucks.
/r/seduction29/09/16 03:50 AM
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They are hitting happy hours at rooftop bars on Friday, they hanging out by the pool/beach/boat on Saturday and/or going out to bars at night, and doing brunch/beach/boat on Sunday. They work during the week, maybe have a birthday/dinner/what ever reason to party thing to attend during the week and then party hard on the weekend. Granted this is from my own observation, every city might be different.
/r/seduction29/09/16 03:37 AM
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Girls actually hate assholes, that's why they are referred to as...assholes. The reason people think girls like assholes is because being "alpha" and/or being an "asshole" are both disguises of confidence, which girls are extremely attracted to. If you actually owned being gentle, caring, and affectionate you would get the same amount of girls, even more, than faking being an asshole. The reason that persona doesn't work for you is because you are not confident in it. If you were you wouldn't ha…
/r/seduction24/09/16 04:33 PM
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I hear ya, I hate wasting my time. The best way to figure out where she's at, is to inject somewhat sexual remarks or innuendos into your snaps to her or into the conversation you are having. This will allow you to gauge her intentions. Once you have an idea of how promiscuous she is you can make the judgment call if it's worth your time to hang out or not.
/r/seduction24/09/16 04:12 PM
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People are there to have fun, if you demonstrate you are fun and can add to peoples fun you will be embraced. If you are a boring generic person, you will not be embraced because you are not adding to the fun people were already having. Keep in mind, friends can hang out at home, they can grab lunch, they can seclude themselves at a table, or a number of other things to just hang out with themselves. If they aren't doing any of these things they are there to socialize.
/r/seduction24/09/16 03:57 PM
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Guess what you can't do while your stuck in traffic, at work, in class, and every other time you're not physically next to someone? Yes it is antiquated. Since you're in advertising I'll use an analogy in your field. Your original statement was like saying "HA, you silly new aged advertisers, you can have google adwords. Us true advertisers are going to stick to billboards and radio commercials!". The times are changing, people build connections online all the time. Is a Facebook Ad ever going t…
/r/seduction20/09/16 11:31 PM
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This is such an antiquated approach, Snapchat and social media in general is a great way to build rapport in between actually seeing people. There's a reason Facebook tried to buy Snapchat for billions of dollars, they know that's where peoples attention is. You can use Snapchat to cut down on flakes and generate more interest when you're not with the person. Should Tinder and Snapchat be 100% of your game, of course not, but they should definitely be an auxiliary to your in person game.
/r/seduction20/09/16 05:28 PM
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I have smoked with strangers and my lighter and brand of cigarettes has never effected my rapport with any of them. How beneficial or detrimental is having the right lighter and cigarettes? In my experience it has 0 effects on game.
/r/seduction20/09/16 02:58 PM
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How is asking someone for a lighter humiliating? I've purposely kept my lighter in my pocket to ask a girl to barrow her light to start the conversation and it has never been humiliating, off-putting, or beta (whatever that even means). If it works for you and other people that's awesome, I've just never had any of this stuff effect my game in anyway.
/r/seduction20/09/16 02:42 PM
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I can't tell if this is a troll post or if you actually believe this stuff effects your game. I'm in the US so I don't know how the UK operates but over here everything in your post sounds absolutely ridiculous. If the type of lighter you have or the pack of cigarettes you smoke really has an impact on your game in the UK, disregard my comment but I would love for someone else to chime in. I'm really having a hard time believing a girl would react at all to a lighter and brand of cigarettes.
/r/seduction20/09/16 08:33 AM
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I actually had this conversation with my buddy today. He asked me "what's you mindset when you go out" I replied, "I go out to have fun". This isn't going to answer your question, but since you seem to be in the same boat as going out to have fun I figured I would share. To me day game feels like work, it feels forced so I rarely do it. If I go to the beach I go there to relax, if I go to the mall I go to buy something and leave. Like "hey bro, do you want to go walk around the city for a couple…
/r/seduction20/09/16 06:06 AM
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I disagree with the previous comments, there definitely is text game. I will agree though that the post is to vague. What are you trying to accomplish with your text game? What's your relationship with this girl, classmate, random girl you see at work or at school, friend of a friend, or dating app? It all comes into play. I can help you out if you provide more details.
/r/seduction20/09/16 05:26 AM
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In my opinion they aren't important at all. You want her to keep talking about herself. What is important though, is getting comfortable holding a conversation not rattling off questions like an interrogation. If she answers a question try and elaborate on her answer. You: "where are you from?" Her: "Seattle" You: "Oh nice, I hear it rains so much umbrellas are actually an acceptable fashion accessory, is that true(slight chuckle)?" Her: "Yea, it rains a lot" You: "So what brings you down to LA?…
/r/seduction20/09/16 05:09 AM
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It's not so much that being tall is a huge advantage, it's just not a disadvantage, like being short. Let be honest, there are definitely girls out there that discriminate and won't give short guys the same attention as a tall guy. Short guys have an uphill battle, where tall guys are either neutral or maybe even a little ahead of the curve before even talking to the girl.
/r/seduction17/09/16 01:04 AM
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Yea hit her up tomorrow and ask.
/r/seduction16/09/16 03:40 AM
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Uhh, maybe set up a time and place to hang out, not continue with small talk? "Just waiting for work to end, what's up with you?" Should have been "Just waiting for work to end, what's your schedule looking like, are you free on (X day of the week)
/r/seduction15/09/16 10:53 PM
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Guy or girl?
/r/seduction15/09/16 02:48 PM
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Haha sorry to assume, I'm just not used to seeing girls by themselves in black dresses.
/r/seduction15/09/16 10:31 AM
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You have to drive the conversation and pull more out of her. "My day was good, yours?" You can come back with something that gets her more engaged or builds more intrigue. "I don't know if you want to open that can of worms, my day was pretty crazy lol" . If your day was crazy then you can elaborate, if it wasn't make it sound as boring as possible and get a laugh out of it. "I went to class, came home, and ate a burrito. My days aren't usually this action packed but I felt like living life a li…
/r/seduction15/09/16 04:27 AM
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Hung up on semantics is the perfect way to describe it. I view game a little different. I view game as being able to achieve a specific goal through social interaction. Whether you're sweet talking a potential client, defusing an argument, or getting that girl to like you, you are using your social skills to get something you want.
/r/seduction15/09/16 04:15 AM
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I agree with the overall point you're making, that learning to become better at attracting and keeping women should only be part of a bigger picture in personal development, but I disagree with the statement "game is not something you turn on or off". Sometimes I just don't feel like turning it on. Other situations it might not be appropriate. A lot of the side effects of game you won't be able to turn off, confidence, wit, and charisma but actually engaging in the game, I believe, is definitely…
/r/seduction15/09/16 02:33 AM
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Awesome, I'll make sure never to run night game because you had 0 results. Thanks!
/r/seduction15/09/16 12:07 AM
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If you're in a college town there will always be college nights or ladies nights with cheap drinks and a lot of people. You can google bars near me and if you see ones that have pictures of their flyers on the website, go the nights with the best specials. Most of them rotate so they're not competing with each other so you can literally create a circuit for the week.
/r/seduction15/09/16 12:02 AM
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Sounds fun, I'll bite. "Are you coming from a wedding or a funeral?"
/r/seduction14/09/16 11:18 PM
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You can speed up certain areas of your game but to get truly good takes experience and experience takes time. Approaching is like the first 1% of game, it's like the kick off, but there are still 4 quarters left to go after you open a girl. It really doesn't have to be this difficult, just start interacting with people in your day to day life. Talking to a girl is the same as talking to one of your buddies, it's building that conversation into attraction where things get dicey. You should be int…
/r/seduction14/09/16 11:15 PM
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You just have to forget that ever happened and move on to the next one. Also, don't think it was you or something you did that scared her. I mean, it could have been but it also could have been that she isn't very social herself and was shocked/nervous that someone was talking to her, so she froze up. The big thing here is you did it!
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:49 AM
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I think it depends on how you are getting the phone numbers. Also how far away are you setting up the dates? Just confirming could work, but building more rapport through text could work also. I would need a little more info.
/r/seduction14/09/16 06:02 AM
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Snapchat or just shoot her a text and ask how her week has been. Small talk for a little and ask her what her schedule is like for the week.
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:57 AM
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You shouldn't leave unless things get stale, even then you should give a reason to circle back. "i'm going check on my friends real quick, where are you going to be?" "Awesome, I'll see you soon". If you are kissing her and dancing and she doesn't leave and is having a good time she's in the bag. Stick around and figure out logistics and you're good to go.
/r/seduction14/09/16 05:55 AM
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I'm 26 and I still talk to buddies about girls we knew in high school that we wanted to date, you just learn to rationalize that they are in the past and there are a constant flow of new women ahead of you. It's kind of like not going on a vacation or spring break with your friends one year. You look back and say man, that could have been a really fun, awesome trip, but you're not going to constantly keep thinking about it because you already have another trip planned for the future that's, most…
/r/seduction14/09/16 01:43 AM
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The best way to be more fun and lighthearted is to extrapolate on the persons answers more and joke around with them. You: "What's you major?" Her: "I'm an Art major." You: "uh oh, are you the hipster art major that wears scarves in July? haha. I'm just teasing you, what type of art are you into?" That type of banter will make you seem more fun and lighthearted.
/r/seduction14/09/16 01:32 AM
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Ok well first, nice job at taking the chat off Tinder by getting her snapchat. The first piece of advice I can give you is to take the conversation back to "normal" faster, most girls won't ride the joke wave for that long. The second thing that I would look into doing is taking the conversation sexual, so far you have only talked about trivial shit so you need to make your intentions clear. Those are the two major things I saw. If you slowly start to take the conversation sexual via snapchat, y…
/r/seduction14/09/16 12:11 AM
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Do you need it, no. Does it help, absolutely. Snapchat is the best for reconnecting/staying connected to the people you meet, girls especially. You don't have to post stuff publicly, I usually only send direct snaps when it relates to the relationship I have with the person I'm sending it to. You know a girl likes Starbucks and you are at one, send her a snap "how jealous are you right now? lol". It's a great way to stay connected and pull new dates out of girls you have met in the past but have…
/r/seduction12/09/16 10:18 PM
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Well I'm going to be honest, if she was on a double date and there were no chairs at the table I wouldn't approach. It's weird, rude and chances of it resulting in anything are slim. Instead, here's what I do. Since she's eye fucking you she's clearly attracted to you and wants to talk to you so next time you guys cross eyes, give her a slight smile and raise your glass as if you were to cheers with her. See how she responds, usually a friend will come over or she will come over and ask if you w…
/r/seduction09/09/16 10:34 PM
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Everywhere.
/r/seduction08/09/16 08:19 AM
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Let me give you a little better advice. Never pussyfoot, when you feel the conversation starting to die or get a signal that she has other things to do, ask for the number Instead of waiting for the conversation to feel like it's dying, ask for her number at the peak of the conversation. This will do two things, allow you to convey that you have more important things to do besides sit there an chitchat all day, and have her remember you as the guy she wishes she could talk to longer. You will be…
/r/seduction08/09/16 08:16 AM
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So in my opinion there are two times when you can "approach" in the gym (if you even want to call it that). First scenario, she's not wearing headphones and you seem to be working out the same muscle group and are unintentionally following each other around the gym. Make a funny comment on how you guys keep running into each other and how she must be working out the same muscle group as you. Second scenario, you are in some sort of class together and/or just so happen to be exiting the gym at th…
/r/seduction08/09/16 08:01 AM
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1st, I would worry about them kissing each other rather than you. Your goal isn't to get them both attracted to you, but rather to get them both attracted to each other. Do you know if these girls have bi-sexual tendencies? It's a big jump from making out with another girl from losing a bet, to licking another girls vagina during a threesome. As for erotic games, I'm guessing you want suggestions a little more discrete than like sex dice or something so I would go with the classics from back in …
/r/seduction07/09/16 09:03 PM
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It just depends on what you enjoy and value. Being single, you never build that bond with someone, instead of a long, meaningful, strong connection you have a series of relatively short, insignificant, weak bonds. I used to live with my ex, we had a really strong connection, she was an amazing women, but when I looked ahead to the future I realized I would not be able to go out and meet new women, which is something that I enjoyed thoroughly before meeting her, if I continued on my current path.…
/r/seduction07/09/16 03:48 PM
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This wasn't a good example because you couldn't set up a date anytime soon. In another scenario where the girl lives closer, instead of just getting her number to chat more, get her number in anticipation of hanging out. The progression should have went snap convo>Set up plans>get phone number>confirm plans via text/phone call>Hang out. If you're losing interest from texting before you ever get to hang out, don't text as much and set up plans faster those two things should definitely help.
/r/seduction06/09/16 11:40 PM
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Honestly, if I was in your situation I would ask one of the roommates I am closest with what I need to do, to not be perceived as a the shy guy who doesn't talk. They would be able to give you much better feedback than say me, a guy who doesn't really know you at all. Also don't make negative beliefs in your head for no reason. they now try to avoid me maybe because they see as the creepy guy that don't talk much. You are probably the only person who thinks this. Think about yourself in a positi…
/r/seduction06/09/16 11:28 PM
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If rushing is anything like when I was in school, you won't need to fix your confidence, you will probably have more liquid courage than you can handle. On a serious note, the best way to fix your confidence based on what you said in your post would be to do two things: 1) Stop putting girls on a pedestal. It doesn't matter if they're the hottest girls you've seen, they are still just girls. It's called a social for a reason, because everyone is there to socialize. Just have fun and if you see a…
/r/seduction06/09/16 11:15 PM
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There are good and bad elements to his game. The good Confident approach Getting the friend involved Making them laugh The Bad Way to much energy Not letting the girl talk enough Going for the kiss to early His confident approach carried him through most of this set. If he slowed down and let the girl talk to try and build rapport he would have gotten a lot further. Also he was to bold to quick, which resulted in the girl asking him how often he does this, and the friend laughing at the encounte…
/r/seduction06/09/16 02:32 PM
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The easiest way to get the ball rolling is to just ask your friends if their girls have any hot friends they could introduce you too. Just talk to your friends and set it up "hey, lets go out this Friday. Get (your friends girl) to invite her friends, we can pregame out my place and then all go out".
/r/seduction06/09/16 01:50 PM
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Social dynamics that allow you to successfully interact with people consistently.
/r/seduction02/09/16 06:15 PM
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If I like a girl enough to start an exclusive relationship, aka I think she has potential to possibly become my wife in the future, I'll cut ties with all the other chicks. If you're really worried about burning bridges with the other girls, how much do you really like the girl you're going exclusive with? If you don't like her enough to go "all in" and burn bridges with the other girls you're talking to I wouldn't be exclusive with her until you figure out what you want. If shit hits the fan an…
/r/seduction02/09/16 05:59 PM
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So what do you think would benefit each person more? Do you think the jobless guy gets more girls by gaining power/status, or do you think the power/status guy gets more girls by gaining one of the following: confidence, charisma, humor, manliness, empathy?
/r/seduction02/09/16 05:38 PM
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Of course, a lot of things take time, power/status probably taking the most. If I had to choose something that takes the least amount of time that yields the best results I would probably say getting shredded. You can achieve this in a relatively short amount of time. Experience, confidence, and self-worth are built up over a slow consistent process.
/r/seduction02/09/16 07:11 AM
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If I could increase one thing with the snap of my fingers to maximize my success with women, the most important would have to be power/status. It doesn't matter what you look like, how you act, the clothes you wear. If you have extremely high power/status there will always be women who want to get with you.
/r/seduction02/09/16 06:38 AM
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My favorite is "Normally I'm a sucker for blondes, but you're making a very convincing argument right now". Obviously, you can change the hair color to whatever color hair she doesn't have.
/r/seduction01/09/16 05:31 AM
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Get involved in activities you like. Co-Ed intramural sports is a great way to meet people and have fun. Join clubs for topics that interest you. If your dorm schedules events for your building, go and meet the people living around you. Keep a good school life balance and you'll have a blast.
/r/seduction01/09/16 05:13 AM
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Yes, but I'm not even going to try an sugar coat it, it was because she though I was hot. She spoke like bare minimum English and the little communication we had was passing my phone back and forth with google translate up. She essentially opened me by asking if her and her friend could take a picture with me. I think if there isn't some level of initial sexual attraction it will be very difficult to overcome the language barrier. Again, this is my experience though. Other people might be able t…
/r/seduction01/09/16 05:03 AM
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The best way I can put it is, yes, the way western media depicts college is true...for some colleges. Big state schools with large student bodies and solid greek life/night life scenes get wild. Don't let this fool you though, you still need to be on top of your game. I would say the 80-20 rules applies, where 20% of the guys who like to party, know their shit, and have a solid social circle will get 80% of the girls. My biggest piece of advice to anyone going to college or currently in college …
/r/seduction31/08/16 07:04 AM
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If your place is out of the question because you are in a relationship or married don't read any of this because you are a scumbag. If it's for other reasons, carry on. Ok, well not knowing how old you are or what type of environment you work in my first piece of advice is never kiss and tell, aka don't go blabbing around work telling all your buddies you hooked up with this chick, keep it to yourself. As for how to act, keep it cool. Stick with the usual "hey, how's it going" "how's your day be…
/r/seduction31/08/16 06:30 AM
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This is a tough question to answer because we don't know the details of your conversation so I'll have to stick to general advice. If you want a friends with benefits type of relationship you have to do two things early. Let her know you're not looking for anything serious Take the conversation sexual Now knowing to do these things and actually doing them is tricky because you want to be able to express them without looking like a thirsty hornball. Sexual innuendos, sexual comebcks, and sexual t…
/r/seduction30/08/16 07:41 PM
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Did you reply to the wrong person? I said this should be considered seduction. I just don't think this demonstrated any solid skills. He opened, chatted her up, had a solution to her problem (phone charger), and had a nice hotel room blocks away. Like I said this was a lay-up. He didn't have to deal with friends trying to drag her a way, she didn't have to feel like her friends would judge her, he didn't have to figure out logistics, he didn't even have to figure out how to get her to the hotel,…
/r/seduction30/08/16 08:02 AM
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How to win friends and influence people. You can probably get the PDF or audio version online for free.
/r/seduction30/08/16 05:16 AM
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A part of me fears being seen as a harasser, part of me really respects women and their opinions. These are good things, you should never want to be seen as a harasser, and you should ALWAYS respect women. It comes down to being able to read social cues and if you ever think you could be crossing the line, don't do it. With that being said, the point of escalation is a gradual buildup so if a girl gives you a hard no in the beginning you need to chat her up more and build more comfort and rappor…
/r/seduction30/08/16 03:48 AM
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The only reason I wouldn't go with the studying angle is because now your first impression is the study guy instead of the fun social guy, not that I think it would make a huge difference but some girls might take that impression and run with it and when you go to turn the sexual dial a little, the girl might be a little weirded out thinking "WTF this is study guy, why is he trying to do something sexual". Again, a situation like that is few and far between but why risk it if you can start off w…
/r/seduction30/08/16 02:56 AM
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The situation described above is easily avoidable. First scenario, that girl was driving you back with her, in which case you just go with them and drop, the "demon of cockblock" as you described her, off first and proceed to your targets house which was the initial plan from the start. Second scenario, you were driving your target back to her place or your place so you build some more rapport by offering to drive her cockblocking friend home also and proceed to drop her off before you make your…
/r/seduction30/08/16 02:20 AM
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I get it, this isn't a person you can just approach and if it goes south, you never see them again and move on, so in my opinion there needs to be a little more finesse involved. Your best bet is to start a conversation after class and I would open with something relatable to the class. "wow, was it just me or did that class feel extra long today" something casual like that. Walk and talk for a little introduce yourself and then say it was nice meeting you see you "day of next time the class mee…
/r/seduction30/08/16 02:03 AM
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I think the analogy works better with "Seduction is a business transaction", there a a lot of parallels. In business you have to constantly be on the lookout for new prospects, this is the same as going out. While you're out you are looking for girls who are single, aka people or businesses that could utilize your product or service. Once you determine you are a good fit, you swap numbers. Now sometimes your business prospect is extremely interested and is ready to buy on the spot, but most of t…
/r/seduction30/08/16 01:25 AM
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I wouldn't definitively say that this wasn't seduction, it's just some people are more easily seduced, but now we're just splitting hairs. He still had to build a little comfort and rapport, but I definitely agree this was a wide open lay-up. I mean he even says she was wearing the same clothes from the night before which means she either slept at a friends house or got railed out and decided to enjoy her walk of shame for a little longer than usual. Either way, just because he pulled doesn't me…
/r/seduction30/08/16 12:45 AM
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So at this point you know you're both down to fuck, so asking her or stating "want to fuck" would be pointless since you seem to have already established that both of you want to. The question is, how do you get her back to your place. The odd thing is that she brought up a convo about you fucking, but then turns down offers to come over. When you make out at bars is it planned or do you see her out, chat her up, have a few drinks and makeout only to have her leave with the friends she came with…
/r/seduction26/08/16 08:06 PM
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This is in this dudes mind. This is like an excerpt from a hilariously bad pick-up erotica novel or something. Walk up to a girl on the street, don't say a single word to her, gently touch her jawline, but before you kiss, don't forget to wiggle your toes. As you lean in you feel it, your face tingling, you have just been slapped in the face.
/r/seduction26/08/16 07:20 PM
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If you have never fucked her before then yes, I think it is a terrible idea. Most girls, won't just be sitting around and then all of a sudden just want to fuck, they need to be aroused, you need to get them into the mood. Invite her over and start kissing her and build the sexual tension up until you're fucking. If this is a matter of letting her know you want to bang her or finding out if she wants to bang you, you will definitely know where both of you stand from hanging out. Also, girls like…
/r/seduction26/08/16 05:26 AM
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But what if I ask them, yet debate them and challenge them at every angle....THATS THE KEY to my entire thread. Nothing wrong with that, it creates a polarizing conversation which is good, but the point I was making which you missed entirely is you can have a polarizing conversation on 100 different topics that all don't involve dating advice. Women like to talk about a ton of different things. I agree the general idea of debating them in a flirty way is good, but if you agree asking women about…
/r/seduction22/08/16 08:36 PM
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That's the exact point I was trying to make. The point of an opener is to get in and spark a decent conversation, but why would you get them engaged in a conversation that is already setting you back? Asking a girls opinion on dating is the exact same thing guys deep deep in her friend zone do so she will most likely, initially, group you with those same guys so it's an uphill battle from the start. I don't even know what push pull is, I assume it was the slight teasing? Either way you can have …
/r/seduction22/08/16 09:21 AM
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This would be great advice if someone was looking for a 99% fail proof way to get friend-zoned as fast as possible. Sure this could get an engaging conversation going, but how beneficial is that conversation going to be in getting this girl attracted to you? Probably about 1%. I get it, you're trying to help people that struggle with conversation, but this isn't a sub on how to socialize, it's about seduction, a much more defined niche of socialization. Obviously talking to girls and having an e…
/r/seduction17/08/16 08:17 PM
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It really depends, there is no cut and dry answer here. Is there one hot girl and two less than appealing friends, is it a group of dimes? I mean the possibilities are endless so to try and address all of them here is what I'll leave you with. Mingle and build rapport with the entire group, throw a little more flirtyness towards the girl you are interested in, but still stay very engaged with the friends. Use the other friends to your advantage, tell them you're interested in their friend, the m…
/r/seduction16/08/16 10:15 PM
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Not sure if this method was inspired by this Ted talk, but either way here is the science behind what goes on and why everyone should do these things. Your body language shape who you are
/r/seduction16/08/16 08:07 AM
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Well just to be the other side of "call them" which I never do, seriously I don't think I've called a girl other than "Hey, I'm here, come out side" or "What's up, I'm downtown, what bar are you at?" in years, just not my style. The reason why I don't like to do it is, it makes you look needy. She definitely saw your text and made a conscious decision not to respond and now you're calling her on top of a no text or delayed text response? No bueno. So what do you do, do you drop her and never tal…
/r/seduction16/08/16 07:34 AM
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Do you not style your hair? Brush your teeth? Shave? How do you not know what color your eyes are?
/r/seduction29/07/16 12:43 AM
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Well that is definitely a confidence thing and they are tough to tackle. One of the easiest ways to improve your confidence is to get into better shape (granted you could be a physique model, but then again I doubt you would be having this issue). When you get into better shape people will notice and start giving you compliments and you'll start to view yourself in the same league as the super hot girls. A second way is fake it until you become it, tell yourself everyday that you are enough for …
/r/seduction28/07/16 07:29 PM
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"Thank you : ). What color are they, I have to make sure you're actually paying attention and not just hitting on me." (jokingly, and smile and laugh)
/r/seduction28/07/16 07:12 PM
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Great article! Another point that helps me while I'm out, is just socializing in general from the start of the night. Talk to the dude waiting next to you at the bar, strike up a conversation with the girl in front of you in line, get your social mojo flowing. One of the biggest reasons I see guys get into there own head is because they think every interaction has to be about getting a girl's phone number, or trying to get the girl to go home with him. Just have conversations for fun and be soci…
/r/seduction28/07/16 05:50 PM
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So in my opinion IoI's have two roles, 1) Pre-apprach to give you an indication of who might be receptive to talking to you/someone who wants you to talk to them and 2) While you're in conversation they provide cues to escalate. With that being said, IoI's are very helpful, but not 100% necessary in regards to the approach. Now in regard to escalation, I really have no idea how anyone could continue to escalate with absolutely 0 IoI's, maybe someone a little more brazen than me could comment. Wi…
/r/seduction28/07/16 01:59 AM
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What would I do? I would go out tonight, that's why I'm single, so I can do things like that. At the same time I don't have a girl that's on my mind that I would potentially start a relationship with. The only person who can make a decision on this matter is yourself. If your moral code is sending you red flags that, if you go out tonight you will be a scum bag, then don't go out. If you're not going out tonight because you think girl A will find out and you will potentially lose her, but you do…
/r/seduction28/07/16 01:22 AM
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For me, I like to have fun with it and joke around. Also, what works for me, are soft displays of sexual interest until I know she is also sexually interested in me and then I will turn the dial. So what's the difference? Soft would be something like, after you first meet a girl saying "look I didn't want to say anything, but I think you need to go home and change...you're looking way to good right now and you're making some of these girls look bad, it's just not fair to them." jokingly. It's so…
/r/seduction27/07/16 11:52 PM
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Honestly, the best advice for a trip like that is enjoy it and have a great time. Girls will notice you and your friends are down to party and have an awesome time, if you are actually having an awesome time. Which, a bro holiday in Spain, I can't imagine you could have a bad time. So my best advice is have fun, socialize, and when you approach/meet girls feed them that natural energy you'll have from being on vacation with your buddies and I bet you'll get laid. Main points, have fun regardless…
/r/seduction27/07/16 09:20 PM
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The bad advice comes in the form of absolutes. For example, never buy a girl a drink, never wait to approach someone, if you want to get girls to sleep with you, you have to be alpha (which a lot of guys misinterpret as being a dick) etc. It's not that it's bad advice all the time, I shouldn't have structured it like that, but it's only good advice in certain situations. For some reason people in the community like to give advice in absolutes, but social interactions have unlimited variables and…
/r/seduction26/07/16 05:56 PM
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Here is the problem with "gaming" in my opinion, most guys get introduced to it when they have 0 social skills at all. They get their confidence up and finally approach a girl. It isn't a total clusterfuck like they imagined in there head, so now they are hooked on gaming philosophy. The problem is they take everything that the PUA community throws at them as how you should interact on a daily basis, when in reality a lot of the info is for very niche situations. As a guy who joined this sub and…
/r/seduction26/07/16 03:58 PM
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It is definitely possible, I would say the biggest difference I see (I'm in my late 20's) is the venue. You want to go to places that tend to attract women in your age range, which for someone almost 40, would be in the 29+ age range, which isn't even old. Depending on your location there should be spots that have an older crowd, they tend to be the fancier venues. If there are no clubs/bar that have an old crowd at night, happy hour is a great social setting that usually attracts a wide range o…
/r/seduction26/07/16 03:38 AM
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I appreciate the thought and effort you put into writing this and there are a lot of valuable tips for guys that are still trying to figure out how to pull on the first night, but there are also some areas I would disagree with. First you want to evaluate the excuses that are going to be brought up while you're building her attraction to you you. You do this by asking questions that you know could come up later as an excuses. Do you have to work early? How did you get out here? Where is she comi…
/r/seduction26/07/16 03:16 AM
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