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Proving an accusation is FALSE is next to impossible. Making a list of possible false rape claims would have little value. Proving a rape didn't happen is like proving God doesn't exist. Even with stories like "Jackie", we don't have real evidence that a rape didn't happen. We only have evidence that it didn't happen the way it was described. Broken, distorted and down right false memories are common enough with rape victims. This makes it very difficult to determine If a rape happened at all. T…
/r/MensRights20/07/16 09:40 PM
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Many other people are doing a great job of listing Men's Rights Issues. There are a great deal of issues that need to be addressed. The issue is policy, and what it takes to get policy changed. There is a very strong Feminist Lobby, going head to head with this lobby would result in any policy change getting killed. Instead, use the lobby. Focus on 1 or two issues that coffee shop feminists could really get behind. I would focus on getting the parity standards for Title IX redressed. The current…
/r/MensRights11/07/16 04:46 PM
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That's part of it, sperm banks will dry up. I'm never going to donate to a sperm bank. They aren't going to pay me the 25 Million I would need to take that risk (no proof that the law won't change making me liable for child support 250k/child * many many children) It doesn't matter if the stat will finance the baby via welfare once it's here. If she can't find a man willing to make a baby (even though sperm donation)....she's not getting a baby.
/r/MensRights10/07/16 03:42 AM
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Women may have low sex drives and strong in group bias, but they are also very susceptible to baby rabies. Once a woman gets baby rabies it's not about wanting sex, it's about wanting a baby and she will be more than willing to throw other women under the bus to get what she wants. As more and more women get old enough to have baby rabies with out having a partner, they will do more and more to get men to come back to the game so they can get babies.
/r/MensRights05/07/16 10:32 AM
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MGTOW will never go "mainstream". It is getting large enough to be noticeable. It is getting large enough to have a real affect on dating pools and marriage rates. Most MGTOW want a relationship, they just recognize that it's far to risky and far to costly with very little in return. As "Where have all the good men gone?" continues to grow in tandem with MGTOW, women will start wanting the issues keeping men out of relationships addressed so that they will have someone to date and marry and have…
/r/MensRights05/07/16 05:36 AM
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You came off too strong. When you attack, they feel attacked and become very defensive. This shuts down rational thought. This convo with a feminist was over after your first post. You built a strawman then tore it down. This made a convo of attack and defense rather than one of spreading good ideas. It is much better to set up the Socratic Method for teaching. Don't pounce like a lion. Ask leading questions to get her to agree. Do you really think that people deserve the right to bodily autonom…
/r/MensRights30/06/16 11:17 AM
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If a woman really is convinced that her place is the one defined for her by the church, then we should allow that. She shouldn't be subject to the draft, she should also never be allowed to enter any paid employment or education of any kind. If we shouldn't take her away from her kids to serve the needs of the nations, she shouldn't be allowed to leave her kids for her own selfish desires.
/r/MensRights29/06/16 07:52 AM
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LOL well I'm proudly 2/5 Feminist. Apparently only 2/5 of feminism is actually about equality, and the other 3/5 of feminism that I oppose is all bad stats and bullshit.
/r/MensRights29/06/16 07:35 AM
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Am I getting wiser with age or are Bunny Boilers just not even trying to hide it any more?
/r/MensRights29/06/16 07:25 AM
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False dichotomy is false. You've really lost the ball. While you have some very creative insults, and I applaud you on that, this kind of language is why people don't take MHRM seriously. I really don't care you called me an infected vaginal queef, but if you use language like that your not going to limit it to forums like this with people like me that really don't care.
/r/MensRights29/06/16 07:20 AM
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So now it's "Real" feminism......puppy dogs and unicorns for everyone!!!!!!
/r/MensRights28/06/16 01:05 AM
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Maybe you should try baking. Baking is good. It doesn't involve many sharp objects to hurt yourself with and your making something worth while. Sounds of the jungle would make excellent white noise in the background to help you relax.
/r/MensRights28/06/16 01:01 AM
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Learn to read please o please learn to read. Feminism did solve some problems. It did so by being very dramatically more toxic and destructive than the problems it solved. Had we had 15 years of feminism, and then 30 years of fixing the damage feminism had done....Women would have the right to vote and not be subject to sexual harassment or occasionally beat by their husbands. We would also have equal parenting rights and an institution of marriage reworked to function in the 21st century. There…
/r/MensRights28/06/16 12:57 AM
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You are a very angry person. You should try basket weaving. Mabey listen to one of the white noise ocean sound tapes. One of the calming teas would also help. You need to relax and learn a productive hobby. It will help you destress and be a much happier person. I normally recommend knitting, but I don't think you would do well with 12 in pointy pieces of metal.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 11:51 PM
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If someone takes someone Else's wallet, it's the thief's fault. It is exclusively the thief's fault. It doesn't matter if the bag was open or if it was chained down and guarded by a watch dog or if the owner forgot about it and left the wallet sitting on the seat unattended with money sticking out. A crime is always and exclusively the criminals fault. Also, if you don't care if someone gets raped....You are a truly horrifyingly awful person.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 11:08 PM
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This only works in jobs where the job is "stand at this register". When talking anything more advanced than Fry Cook, sitting on the shitter for 40 min isn't lost productivity. People do all sorts of thing to help their brains solve problems. Some people take really long dumps, others go for a run, others watch some kitten videos, really anything and everything could be used as a tool to help solve problems. How long you spend sitting at your desk is probably one of the worst possible estimation…
/r/MensRights27/06/16 10:56 PM
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Sorry, if he's not able to handle the first two years of classes academically, then he doesn't stand a chance at doing well in the next two. He's failed out on the easy stuff. Even if that vailed out was only just barely, he's not going to pull that GPA up with the MUCH harder classes junior and senior years.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 10:50 PM
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It's never the victims fault. That's kind the definition of victim, it wasn't something they chose. Where anti-victim blaming SJW go wrong is on the labeling of victims. If a woman hops in the shower with me, then crawls naked into my bed, these are two very VERY clear "yes"es. Proceeding to act on these yeses until there is a clear "NO" doesn't make me a rapist or her a victim. It's not victim blaming to attribute agency to a non-victim. Women are people, but not just people, fully functional a…
/r/MensRights27/06/16 10:44 PM
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At this time there are not legal rights that men have and women don't. There are lots of significant legal rights that women and men don't. If you know of an enforced legal right that men have and women don't, I would be happy to fight for it. In 15 years of asking this question, none have actually been presented to me. If the only "women's rights" issues that exist are different social gender roles for men and women....then no, I'm not going to fight for gender sameness. The genders are equal, …
/r/MensRights27/06/16 06:20 PM
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This new campaign actually looks promising. It's not perfect, but listen to the phrasing. "Women need to let their husbands put a diaper on the kids head" The underlying assumption here is that women do infact have power, real power. That women in fact have agency. That women are doing things wrong. While not perfect, this campaign is a STRONG step away from the truly toxic feminism of "Women are helpless objects acted upon by 'The Patriarchy', and the goal is to insure the objects are treated w…
/r/MensRights27/06/16 05:24 PM
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Your right, Feminism is much more like chemo than cancer. It's Radio active toxic sludge specifically designed to kill the patient it's pumped into, it just kills some parts (the cancer) faster. Once the problems that early feminism had an important role in solving where solved we needed to STOP and work on healing the damage the treatment caused. But no, we doubled the dosage. That radio active toxic sludge has now created more cancers, ones that are immune to chemo therapy. It's much easier to…
/r/MensRights27/06/16 05:17 PM
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Appeasement doesn't work. The goal isn't appeasement. The goal is to maintain focus on the proper goal of convincing the AUDIENCE.
/r/MensRights27/06/16 04:55 PM
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It would be GREAT if feminists would stop describing everything and anything as "RAPE". But they won't. There is nothing we can do about that. We could have much more productive conversations about sex crimes if we had a dozen different words, not just one. This would destroy most feminist arguments about "Rape" since "Rape" would be limited to Violent Stranger assaults, a crime that virtually never happens. The feminist argument is all about getting the emotional reaction to Violent Stranger as…
/r/MensRights26/06/16 07:53 AM
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2nd and 3rd wave feminism are nearly identical. The reason they get divided isn't because feminism changed, but because culture changed. There really was a wage gap "for the same work" in the 50's. A law was passed to fix this in 1963. Both 2nd and 3rd wave feminists fight for "Equal pay for Equal work". 2nd Wave feminists actually had a point. Women did in fact get paid less for the same work. 3rd wave feminists kept fighting this fight even after they won. Marital rape was legal until the 1970…
/r/MensRights26/06/16 06:54 AM
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Listen to the language used. It's an app by women for women about women because women. Men don't even factor into any part of the app....but it's sposed to be a dating app that men use too??? If there was an app for inter-racial dating, and I made a 6 min video about it where I did nothing but talk about how great the app was for WHITE people, and talked down a little bit about how bad black people are....would you call that racism? Do you think lots of blacks would use that app?
/r/MensRights25/06/16 05:36 AM
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Feminists are immune to facts. But feminists are immune to fact, and this includes facts about the Turner case. The goal is to convince the AUDIENCE. To convince the AUDIENCE rape culture isn't real, many MRA are agreeing with "He got off easy" so that we can make a really strong case about "And it happens like once a decade" If Janice want's to make the case that the sentence was reasonable or even to harsh, I'm all for that. She is a brilliant woman. She knows what she's talking about. There i…
/r/MensRights24/06/16 09:56 PM
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Contrast this against the Rolling Stone Article or Duke Lacrosse. Both of which where blatent false accusations. This guy really did do something wrong, and it was sexual and the victim was female, and he does sports at a prestigious university. This case is worlds closer to "rape culture" than Jackies fanciful story that never happened.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 06:56 PM
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This is why I early and often put in the cavet of "I don't know policy and procedure". I have run contentious meetings. I have also see overly formalized dog and pony shows. I was pictureing her giving a presentation that had been selected from a large pool of of people wishing to present. This would have earned her the right to speak. OP has clarified and she was just being a cunt and interrupting HIS presentation.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 01:53 PM
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Ah, well, In that case, Shut the bitch down. You are the one that had earned the right to speak and she was stepping on your feet. Don't apologize for doing the right thing.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 01:49 PM
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That doesn't answer the real question. Did she earn the right to present? I don't know policy and procedure for how proposals get selected for presentation to the board. If there was a process that she worked through to earn the right to present, she had the right to present. This is true regardless of how many others told her NO and how bad the proposal was. Did she earn the right to present? or was this some sort of open everyone gets to present situation?
/r/MensRights24/06/16 08:17 AM
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Sex ed classes are good, in theory. What I've seen falls into two categories, abstinence ONLY sex ed that does nothing to teach boys or girls about consent what counts as "Yes" what counts as "No" or why consent is important. The second type of sex ed class I've seen describes the basic mechanics of sex then demonizes male sexuality while not teaching boys or girls what counts as "Yes" or "No" or describing why consent is important. A useful sex ed class would teach both boys and girls why conse…
/r/MensRights24/06/16 07:44 AM
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If you where interrupting her, you where in the wrong. I don't know the details of procedure on how such proposals are presented, but she got to the point of presenting you with her proposal. Even if her proposal was truly stupid, she did the work needed to get to the point of presenting the board with her proposal. The work she did to get to the position of presenting the proposal and crafting the proposal earned her the respect of having it listened to. (Again I don't know the specifics of the…
/r/MensRights24/06/16 07:34 AM
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I got 18......Go "White Cis Male Hetero Privilege!!!!".....
/r/MensRights24/06/16 05:57 AM
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Mostly it's just letting Feminists have their victory lap. After more than a decade of looking high and low for an example, any example of "Rape Culture"....They found one. It's shakey but it's fairly settled and meets all of their requirements for "Rape Culture" Now they have their "It's real because we have this example where it happened once" From here the best debunking of "Rape Culture" isn't to try and defend the sentencing of a rapist, but to point out that once every 10 years is hardly a…
/r/MensRights24/06/16 05:47 AM
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Well, about an hour ago someone let a door close in my face. They would have held the door if I was a woman. I had no expectation of getting female privilege, so I was ready for the door. This was clearly (if trivially) a case of being a men not being a benefit. A few hours before that someone at Lowe's laughed at me because I asked a question "every man should know that" I could list hundreds of such trivial examples where I didn't get female privilege or failed at being manly enough. 4 or 5 ha…
/r/MensRights24/06/16 05:40 AM
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We should teach men not to rape. There has never been any question at all, ever, of if we should teach men not to rape. The issue is should we be doing MORE to teach men not to rape. That rape is bad is pounded into males heads many times every day starting at infancy. That we need to be doing MORE than that is what's up for debate. We have already gone so overboard crazy on teaching men not to rape that I and many like me boil it down as such. Rape is bad. All sex is rape. Therefore, never have…
/r/MensRights24/06/16 05:28 AM
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On this, be aware of who your citing. This doesn't look like a feminist post. This looks like a trad con post. Trad con's have never been "pro equality". They have always advocated for gender differences. Being anti-Gender Sameness is perfectly in keeping with Trad Cons. If this post was intended to be Trad Cons being stupid, it didn't come across that way.
/r/MensRights24/06/16 04:39 AM
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LOL they are literally upset that a White dude is played by a White dude!!!!
/r/MensRights24/06/16 04:31 AM
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Get out, Get out NOW. Just Abandon your stuff and never go back. In the US domestic violence shelters are legally obligated to accept men. Find one and go there. The threatening to tell your secrets is emotional abuse. The lying to her coworkers about you is controling and abusive behavior. You are the victim of Domestic Violence and the shelters exist to help YOU. Don't call the cops. The cops are more likely to arrest you than to help you. Go directly to the Domestic Violence Shelter. They wil…
/r/MensRights23/06/16 03:28 AM
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The comment you linked has 55 upvotes and in the entire threat the only negative rated comments are two low effort quibs. Don't expect blind acceptance, but nothing about that thread says "Your not welcome here" to me.
/r/MensRights23/06/16 01:23 AM
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OMG, that article isn't terrible. lets look at their list. 1) non-normalized numbers. Some number of girls are not being properly educated. This isn't normalized or compared. As far as misandry goes, this is rather mild. 2)Teach women to fill traditional female gender roles of teaching. Great. 3)Mechanization allows for more useful applications of human labor. Umm no shit. 4)Girls Girls and only Girls isn't a direction that can fix gender inequality....Dear lord, they've seen the light 5)Knowled…
/r/MensRights15/06/16 05:56 AM
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Your over thinking it. Feminism is a movement for women's rights. Women want a strong man that will stand up to them. Feminism is made up of women. You mash women's goals up with Feminism's goals and you get the incomprehensible double plus good new double speak that we can't stand. Feminism's stand on Islam is just part of the gobbldy gook that is double plus good new double speak.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 07:23 PM
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It's possible to find outlyers and individuals with a personal agenda on the edges of any group. There are feminists that have called for gendercide, the literal murder of 90% of men. If we are to talk about "Feminism" then we need to talk in generalizations that are true for the bulk of feminists. The social movement that is Feminism is the masses, not the fringe. Very few feminists will agree that the law shouldn't protect men. Even the stories linked it's not about excluding men, it's about p…
/r/MensRights11/06/16 10:09 PM
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You've got some facts wrong. Feminists haven't lobbied for the change in the legal definition of rape to exclude men. Historical definitions of rape from long before feminism excluded men. The reality is that feminists haven't lobbied for the inclusion of men in the legal definition of rape. This is a notable difference. It's passive acceptence of normalized sexism against men vs active pushing of more sexism against men. The 2013 reauth of VAWA included a non-discrimination clause that disallow…
/r/MensRights11/06/16 08:02 PM
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Yeah, no. Rape is about sexualized control only when your talking about a stranger jumping out of the bushes with a tazor style rape. You know, the kind of rape that happens to about 1 in 10,000 women. The rest of rape cases from date rape to miscommunication rape to morning after regrete "rape" are all about getting off.
/r/MensRights10/06/16 11:22 PM
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She can't do much real damage on the "Wage Gap". The thing that gets people up in arms, that she could rally enough support to pass, is "for the same work". Should she attempt a bill saying women need to get paid more per hour than men to make up for the fewer hours women work.....that's not equal pay for equal work. Many Dem's won't support that let alone enough Rep's to actually pass it. Do you have a link to the California Bill? I expect your example is exactly the type of thing being targete…
/r/MensRights09/06/16 04:10 PM
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Yeah. If the police did that to me, I would so get the women to get up in arms over police harrasment. I would be telling the police about 15-20 women I intend on sleeping with in the next 24 hours every single day. I mean, I do intend on sleeping with them. The odds I will close the deal are low, but hey I'm going to make the attempt. Once that high powered female lawyer at expensive lawfirm X gets pissed enough at the police for bothering her over my intent to have sex....she would do somethin…
/r/MensRights09/06/16 02:40 PM
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The big problem with Clinton isn't that she will to horrible things, but that she will intentionally avoid fixing the real problems while pushing through redundant legislation that doesn't actually do anything (but makes her look good on the identity politics front). Clinton will push through the 1963 equal pay act 7 or 8 times in her first term. Given that we already have 5 or 6 versions of this law on the books, pushing it through a few more times won't actually change anything. It will give h…
/r/MensRights09/06/16 02:33 PM
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I love the section "looking for Mr. Right". They had to try four times to find a research method that gave valid results, not pre-determined socially acceptable results.
/r/MensRights07/06/16 01:07 PM
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Your going to college to learn. Not every text you read will be factual and accurate, but you will still learn a great deal from reading them. You will see how propaganda and spin works. You should read this book for the same reasons you should also read "The color of Crime" and "Mien Kamph"
/r/MensRights07/06/16 07:27 AM
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Ok, well there is a strong case that gender equality is good for men. What I don't see is how rights and only rights for women and only women is going to bring about gender equality? How rights and only rights for women and only women will bring about gender equality was not addressed in the video.
/r/MensRights06/06/16 12:00 AM
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Feminists use feminism as an identity to play identity politics with. Masuclinist would be playing the same game of identity politics. If you want to stop the erasure of male victims, don't play identity politics. Do the activity of advocating for men's Rights.
/r/MensRights05/06/16 11:39 PM
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There is an entire library worth of apologetic written by feminists disputing your claim. While your position is valid, you are going to get very little mileage out of it. The feminist version of equality is the currently accepted version of equality, and that is equality of outcome. It takes a single cartwheel of mental gymnastics to support this position. Agree with this position, and point out how feminists are failing at the feminist version of equality. Then that's when few people can prefo…
/r/MensRights03/06/16 12:46 PM
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Arguing against the Feminist version of equality won't get you very far. Arguing that Feminism is failing at the Feminist version of equality allows you to make a much more widely accepted argument.
/r/MensRights02/06/16 11:30 PM
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This is gender based affirmative action. It's not a problem in it's self. the problem is that it's only for women in STEM. The problem is that we don't have bigger and better funded programs for MEN in HEAL. There are not tens of millions of dollars in male only scholarships for men in nursing and men in teaching. There isn't the male only positions at daycares. There are not diversity officers at hospitals actively recruting male nurses. Arguing against the Feminist version of equality won't ge…
/r/MensRights02/06/16 08:58 PM
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The underlying problem is the current dominant social narrative on the subject of gender and gender roles. For more than 70 years now the discussion about gender and gender roles has been about rights and only rights for women and only women. This framing is hard to get past. When ever the issue of reproductive rights for men comes up it get interpreted as wanting to take rights away from women because only women and only their rights have even been on the table for discussion for more than 70 y…
/r/MensRights01/06/16 11:38 PM
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Because society is and has always been a complex web of interconnected and interdependent divisions of labor. 30 years ago women started identifying the parts of this web where women had it worse and abstracted them from the rest of reality. We do like the concept of equality and feminism convinced a large majority of people that their ability to isolate instances where women where not favored by the status quo meant the entirety of the status quo was against women.
/r/MensRights27/05/16 07:40 PM
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Japan is actually is dire straights. You should read up on "herbivore men" and "dry fish ladies". While there is strong gender integration in the workplace in Japan, social segregation of the sexes is problematic to the degree that the population decline is threatening economic stability.
/r/MensRights26/05/16 07:20 PM
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Warren Farrell put it best. Women are human BEings, Men are human DOings. Women have a role distinct from men as baby incubators. Nothing can take this role away from women. Men's role is by and large determined by a distance from the feminine. As women have encroched and invaded male spaces, the ability of men to maintain this distance from femininity and be "real men" has crumbled. Simply going to work 5 days a week was enough distance from femininity for a male to be a "real man" in the 50's.…
/r/MensRights26/05/16 06:57 PM
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Being overly confrontational doesn't work well. The best tactic I've found is agree with them for 80%, then make a turn to men's rights. The topic of pay inequality is a great one to do this with. There is pay inequality on average men make more, this is not different pay for the same work but different pay for different work stemming from a strongly gender segregated workforce. This is why "Women in STEM" is a thing, getting women into the very highly paid and mostly male dominated STEM fields.…
/r/MensRights20/05/16 07:59 PM
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Agency is the ability to make the choice, and women do have agency. There is a very real difference in perceived importance of the actions taken. A man punches his wife in the face, he's a violent monster that needs to be arrested and punished. His punch has very real significance. A woman punches her husband in the face, well she's just a woman, he needs to "man up" and take it.....he probably deserved it anyways. A similar discounting of the effectiveness of female action occurs in boardrooms.…
/r/MensRights14/05/16 06:30 PM
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There is only one "privilege" that men have and women don't. Even then it's very much a double edged sword. Men's actions are considered to be more important more significant than the same actions taken by women. This is a huge privilege when talking about promotions into top level corporate positions. It's a huge liability when talking about criminal courts and accountability. This sword of Damocles hanging over men's head is the closest to "male privilege" that exists.
/r/MensRights14/05/16 06:03 AM
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Please learn to read. Again, feminism is not, and never was, about any equality. No shit, that's why I said Core constructs of feminism are fully and completely incompatible with actually advocating for equality. Core Constructs, the fundamentals of, the foundation of Feminism is fully and completely incompatible with actually advocating for equality.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 03:05 PM
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Advocacy for men's rights and advocacy for women's rights are not mutually exclusive. Advocating for equality is fully supportive of advocating for equality. What doesn't work together is the "Smash the Patriarchy" ideology and advocating for equality. What doesn't work together is "end male privilege" and advocating for Men's rights. Core constructs of feminism are fully and completely incompatible with actually advocating for equality.
/r/MensRights10/05/16 05:45 AM
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Voting Rights are tied to Selective Service. It's not a one step tie, there are two steps to tie Voting Rights to Selective Service. I know that two steps may be a huge logical leap for you.....but let me help you understand. Not registering for Selective Service is a Felony. Felony convictions mean your not allowed to vote. Selective Service -> Felony -> no voting This is about as direct of a tie between the draft and voting rights as you will find. An argument of "but the government isn't enfo…
/r/MensRights16/04/16 02:20 AM
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"A draft will never happen again" This is what they said after "The War to End ALL Wars" ....WWI.... Since then the draft has been used for WWII, Korea, and Vietnam. The draft will happen again, it's just a question of when.
/r/MensRights15/04/16 10:11 PM
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Some more info is needed. Setups that would be discrimination in one setting are not discrimination in a different setting. When where the locker rooms built? In the 1950's there where very different requirements for men and women. The Sexism of the time required that women have more privacy. It would be unreasonable to require complete retrofitting of the men's locker room. While this is "discrimination" its of the level where you should just shut up and deal with it. Similarly where the locker…
/r/MensRights12/04/16 06:34 PM
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The issue is that there are BS arguments about rape on all sides. if women will not moderate their behaviour and dress to incite men. This is one of them. Short skirts don't cause rape. There isn't even a strong correlation between short skirts and rape. It's not on women to dress modestly to prevent rape. If the conversation about reasonable safety measures can be had, short skirts causing rape needs to be dropped. Walking in groups and having drinking buddies to intervene to prevent drunken mi…
/r/MensRights12/04/16 02:08 AM
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No. It's only in the last 20 years or so that this happens on a large scale. You can find isolated examples of "Dedicated Bachelors" throughout all of history, but they have always been a tiny minority of men. Even among the greats of history, they where all married and had children (again with isolated and notable exceptions). These men where just as dedicated and hard working as the men today, but they had wives whom orginized their social life and threw the house parties and did all the leg w…
/r/MensRights11/04/16 02:59 AM
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Simply put, you are falling for propaganda. Your links are not links to MRA websites. They are not links to intactivist websites. They are links to feminist websites trying to demonize MRA in any way they can. Third parties can say lots about what MRA and intactivists say think and do, this doesn't make any of it true. If you want to convince me that there is a problem with anti-Semitic propaganda within intactivism, you need to provide links to intactivist sites that have anti-Semitic themes. L…
/r/MensRights11/04/16 02:43 AM
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The best cure for this kind of stupidity isn't banishment to the dark net where it will fester. The best cure is direct sunlight. This got published. We can shine light on that and compare it to how women are treated. The victory will be when groups consider content like this so disgusting they choose to take it down themselves, not when we co-opt the authoritarian left to enforce censorship of what we consider offensive.
/r/MensRights06/04/16 10:57 AM
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Feminism is anything and everything and all things and nothing and puppy dogs and unicorns for everyone. There is nothing that falls outside of this, feminism does EVERYTHING, and nothing that feminism is responsible for because it does NOTHING. The very best you can do is get the response of "That's not MY feminism" Trying to show what feminism is responsible for and not responsible for is a non-starter because feminism is "Puppy dogs and unicorns for everyone" If you want to argue against femi…
/r/MensRights06/04/16 01:31 AM
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Feminists, all feminists, are either misguided or bigots. Feminism is the advocacy for women's rights. This advocacy can never produce equality. We need advocacy for rights and responsibilities for men and women. People that think advocating for women's rights alone, feminism, will result in gender equality are either misguided or bigots using the banner of equality to support female supremacy.
/r/MensRights05/04/16 02:34 AM
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Many others have pointed out that equal pay legislation already exists. I think they are missing the point. Having 27 laws that say "It's illegal to pay workers differently for the same work" is no different than having one. Pass a new law that says this exact same thing every week for the next 60 years....and nothing changes. The problem, the harm, isn't in having redundant laws. The harm comes when there is a cost imposed by the redundant law. 47 laws giving workers the exact same right to sue…
/r/MensRights05/04/16 02:21 AM
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It's not the quotas in isolation. The quotas as a transitional tool to help break down social and economic barriers to entry is valid. They become invalid when combined with the concept of "White Male Privilege". If we really wanted quotas to help break down social cultural and economic barriers enforcing gender norms, then the quotas would be for teaching and nursing and child care. Now, if you can't convince feminists that we need gender quotas in Kindergarden teaching more than we need them i…
/r/MensRights01/04/16 07:16 PM
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The problem isn't that people are unwilling to participate in free market jobs. The issue is that "white male privilege" is a backward sexist racist bigoted description of what is. When a company has policies that say hire x number of women/blacks/hispanics regardless of qualifications, that IS NOT free market for labor. The Phil Harmonic orchestras using gender blind auditions is an excellent example of how to do "diversity policies" correctly. Putting up a screen so that the gender of the pers…
/r/MensRights01/04/16 06:36 PM
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Women are happy being female. Women are not envious of men in general. Women are envious of the top 1% of men that have lots of money and power. Given this women would not be happy with true equality because then they wouldn't have the wealth power and prestige of the top 1%
/r/MensRights01/04/16 12:11 PM
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Walk away and watch it burn. A successful marriage requires two adults willing to work hard and sacrifice. Marriage today has one adult working hard, the husband, and one petulant child demanding more sweets before bedtime. The only way to reduce divorce rates isn't to make divorce harder, but to make marriage harder( if not impossible ). Marriage should require 3-5 years of couples therapy followed by 3-5 years of "live in engagement" to see if the relationship works, followed by 3-5 years of "…
/r/MensRights01/04/16 12:03 PM
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Love the mental gymnastics. The 2015 women's world cup was a "Well this one time" kind of event. It was an anomaly. If they actually want to convince me of anything, they need to show that women's soccer consistently has high viewership. How did all of the other women's matches compare to similar men's matches....not just that ONE game.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 01:39 AM
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Other than brainwashing women to murder people for him....Charles Manson was a great person and very lovable.
/r/MensRights31/03/16 12:14 PM
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Umm, look at the author of the comic. It's AntiFemComics. This isn't feminism this is anti-feminism attempting to parody feminism and running face first into Poe's Law.
/r/MensRights30/03/16 04:59 PM
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This falls very squarely into "THAT'S A JOKE" Yes, it's sexist, lots of jokes are. Get over yourself and laugh at the funny. This isn't promoting law or policy change. This isn't getting government funding. It's a joke, laugh.
/r/MensRights30/03/16 04:12 PM
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There are like 12 different official definitions for the word "Running" in the dictionary. We don't accuse this word of being meaningless. The difference between the multitude of definitions of "rape" and "running" is everyone recognizes that "running" has lots of different context and connotations that changes the meaning. "I was running to the store" "The water was running" "I was running out of time" "The debate was running in circles". Lots of different meanings. On the other hand "Rape is R…
/r/MensRights30/03/16 04:09 PM
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Asking Trump anything would be pointless. Regardless of the question the answer will be "Build a wall to Mexico" or "Deport all of the Muslims" Asking Clinton anything would be pointless. She will just play the victim card, and use the question as a stump to talk about how oppressed women are. Asking Sanders anything would be pointless. While it may be possible to get an answer from Sanders, the question would need to be so long and loaded with "Women are wonderful" the actual question would get…
/r/MensRights29/03/16 11:27 AM
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So the very concept of oppression started with European colonialism. I didn't start with the Moorish invasion of Spain or Byzantine Empire enslaving the Slavic people. Or the Roman Empire feeding slaves of all races to lions for "sport". Or the Greeks, or the Babylonians, or the Egyptians, or the what ever the great power 7,000 years ago was. Opression and racism and sexism and everything evil started only about 400 years ago with European colonialism.
/r/MensRights29/03/16 01:48 AM
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They have, but part of that is the mentality that words written on a piece of paper can cause physical harm. The editors and writers for these papers think using words like "Fuck" and "NIgger" will cause real physical harm to people reading them.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 12:42 PM
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And women only make 77cents for every dollar a man makes for the same work. If you want to spout woosles, so can I.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 12:39 PM
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Since you clearly know more than me, can you describe in only a few words 3 different learning algorithms and what a neural network is?
/r/MensRights26/03/16 12:38 PM
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It's association with criminal organizations that make you more likely to be criminal. Saying that it's not a problem when men are targeted because men are more likely to be associated with criminal organizations is the same argument that it's fine to do so to blacks.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 06:28 AM
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The doctors did show bias, we agree on that. The doctors, as people with power, acting on that bias is discrimination. Discrimination from a government organization is a rights violation. Also, you seem to be looking for BIG. The rights violation I'm talking about is rather small. It's small but real, unlike "The Wage Gap" or "Rape Culture".
/r/MensRights26/03/16 02:19 AM
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The best counter isn't to debate the facts. It's to question the relevancy of the facts she presented. The men themselves where involved with crime, therefore it's reasonable and acceptable to commit crimes against them? Does this mean it's reasonable and acceptable to commit crimes against black people because blacks are much more likely to be involved in crime than whites?
/r/MensRights26/03/16 12:05 AM
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It's just a table look up in the same way that every though you will ever have, ever feeling you will ever experience, every memory in your brain are "just some chemicals" The Watson Deep Neural Network is smart enough to beat you at Jeopardy.
/r/MensRights26/03/16 12:02 AM
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It is about NHS paying? The NHS will pay for His but not Hers? It's still the same issue.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 11:57 PM
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Got sources for that? I've not seen them.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 11:56 PM
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Policy and procedure are not necessarily law, but they do qualify as enforcement. Consider Gay marriage in a place it's legal. All couples need to do is fill out the forms properly. On the forms, there are spaces for Man and Woman, and only one of each. Gay couples couldn't fill out these forms properly, and be denied marriage on that grounds. In the US the 2011 "Dear Coleuge" letter about the "college rape epidemic" wasn't law, but it mandated a change to policy and procedure for how rape accus…
/r/MensRights25/03/16 11:55 PM
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"Feminism is cancer" got used because it's something not sexist enough to print. 4Chan got the bot to say all sorts of other really bad things that couldn't be published in a respectable paper.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 09:29 PM
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It's based on learning algorithms and deep neural networks. It takes a great deal of time and massive data sets to teach such AI's how to do stuff. That is was successfully parroting, but not precisely verbatim, is actually really amazing.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 09:25 PM
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It's she couldn't have it done, even paid for by herself. According to the article they offered to give her BF a vasectomy, and that would stop pregnancy, but they wouldn't preform a tubal ligation on her. Surgical Sterilization was available to her BF, but not her.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 09:19 PM
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NHS is government. Doctors acting on behalf of the government through the NHS is a legal enforcement. I know this is a far cry from "It's legal to kidnap you at gun point and force you to participate in blood sport for the profit of oil companies", but it's also very different than "The Wage Gap" or "Rape Culture". She really was denied a right she should have had, that men have, by a government orginization. This may be a minor thing, but it's at least a REAL thing.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 09:14 PM
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You found one!!! You found an actual women's rights issue where men have an enforced right women don't in a western country!!!! Women should be able to decide on surgical sterilization just like men can.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 08:09 PM
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Many different women, many different times.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 08:03 PM
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Very poorly worded survey. The results can be interpreted to mean anything. I would be deeply disturbed if there was a police report showing my GF hit me, not because I want to protect her, but for that report to exist means SHE HIT ME. And that is very disturbing, disturbing enough that she would no longer be my GF. On 7 and 8, Not my monkies, not my circus, not my problem. All in all the questions are vague enough to be reinterpretation in any way.
/r/MensRights25/03/16 01:08 AM
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(13) An employer may require an employee who takes a leave under this section to provide evidence reasonable in the circumstances that the employee is entitled to the leave. What counts as "evidence reasonable in the circumstances"? I see a massive problem here with false rape accusations. All I need to do in order to get a 10 day paid vacation at my favorite spa (as perscirbed by my doctor to alleviate stress for the attack) is to accuse someone of rape......No, no one's going to file false rap…
/r/MensRights25/03/16 01:01 AM
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Most individuals that identify as feminists are actually reasonable people. The crazy hateful sexist bigots that have all the money power and influence are a small minority (but the important one when talking about policy) Go to one of the feminist society meetings and float your idea. The vast majority of feminists don't like MRA, not because we advocate for men, but because they have been convinced that we are anti-women's rights. Legal Paternal Surrender, anti-male genital mutilation, equal s…
/r/MensRights24/03/16 03:33 AM
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Teaching boys and girls to respect each other is equally important for both boys and girls. There is much more already being done to teach boys to be respectful than there is for girls. There exists a valid complaint that enough isn't being done to teach boys to be respectful. Much less is being done to teach girls to be respectful, making that the larger problem if we are to treat boys and girls disrespect as equally important.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 06:46 PM
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Respect is something that needs to be taught. It is not an innate human trait. By default humans, all humans, treat everything and everyone as subordinate to their desires and wants. The issue isn't that this is true for males. The issue that this isn't true for ONLY males.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 06:42 PM
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The problem is that it's half true. We do need to raise our sons to respect women. This is a true statement. The reason it's a half truth is that we have a bigger problem where we also need to raise our daughters to respect men, and that is not being done.
/r/MensRights22/03/16 11:58 AM
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You feel uncomfortable. This is a fact that exists in the absract. Given this fact, you have a choice. You can choose to ascribe this feeling to external forces that you have no control over, as feminism does with women. Or you can choose to take ownership of the feeling and assert agency. Should you choose agency, then you have the power to find and correct your behaviors that result in you feeling uncomfortable. Now, this is the root of the difference you are seeing. It is assumed that women w…
/r/MensRights22/03/16 02:29 AM
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Several/many years ago MRA used "Take the Red Pill", and "Blue pill people" as a culturally relevant metaphor for seeing the world as it truly is. MRA, people who chose to take the Red Pill, saw the world wasn't one of "The Patriarchy" but of "gynocentrism" with society being built around the protection and provision of women. Then the PUA crowd coopted this phrase and turned it into something different. This is why MRA stopped using it and distanced ourselves from it. We where distancing oursel…
/r/MensRights21/03/16 08:06 PM
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1)People that are of the same race share some characteristics...namely skin tone People with the same political affiliations share some characteristics .... namely conservative/liberal Feminism has no such shared characteristic (unless you count the misandry of "Patriarchy Theory") 2)http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/feminism Feminism isn't a search for absolute equality. It's advocacy for women's rights, and that will never result in absolute equality. You see the…
/r/MensRights21/03/16 01:32 PM
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There is no such thing as "true feminism". All of feminism is one giant "no true Scotsman" fallacy. If your not anti-porn, your not a real feminist and is your not pro-porn, your not a real feminist. If your not pro-stay at home moms, your not a real feminist and if your not anti-stay at home, your not a real feminist. We don't treat women as inferior. What you are seeing is a mix of two things. First a powerful disdain for feminism. Feminism is not women and women are not feminism. Second, you …
/r/MensRights21/03/16 04:49 AM
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Love the buried nuggets of truth that are starting to make their way into these reports. After sifting through the data, Ms. Blau and Mr. Kahn concluded that pure discrimination may account for 9 percent of the gender pay gap. So 9% of 23 cent difference is 2 cents. According to this article the wage difference is women make 98 cents for every dollar a man makes for the same work. This is a believable level of wage discrimination. The other 21 Cents of "The Wage Gap" is different pay for differe…
/r/MensRights20/03/16 04:43 PM
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What this Amendment would do is assert gender sameness, not gender equality. Gender equality is a tough concept because the genders are not the same. There are reasons, good reasons, for many of the gendered situations. The expectation that women can carry 50 pound bundles of shingles up ladders as quickly, continuously and as safely as men do is simply silly. Then comes the "equal pay" because the worker moving 20 bundles of shingles is doing "the same work" as the worker moving 45. Lastly, non…
/r/MensRights20/03/16 01:16 PM
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Because when you give someone that's standing a good hard yank, it looks like a throw. When you give someone that just got knocked on their ass a good hard yank, they scoot a few feet. This just strikes me as very similar to that video a few months ago showing the officer "throwing a black girl across the room". The edited clip made it look that way. The full clip showed that it was much more of a "fell out of her chair flailing".
/r/MensRights19/03/16 08:51 PM
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I don't see the issue. Fight starts. Fight ends. Both combatants are restrained.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 01:07 PM
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I'm evil. I say equality is equality. Since Equal numbers are important in fields like STEM and Senator, Equal numbers must also be important in Infantry Grunt. We have the ability as a nation to do this, draft women and only women to fill combat positions so that female participation (by force) is equal to male interest. If we shouldn't be drafting women and only women to fill equality quotas, then we really shouldn't be worried about rates of interest in STEM.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 01:21 AM
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My gut feeling is that men will abandon Clinton every day from now until November unless Trump murders a baby on live television. Otherwise, I think Trump wins easily with men. This line killed me, I doubt even that would end Trump's run.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 01:14 AM
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Your conflating two concepts. "Privilege" unearned benefits, and "power" the ability to make change. Men wield more power than women, but by and large we use that power to the benefit of women. This creates female privileges where they get the benefits of men's hard work with out actually earning it. Also, your "facts" are wrong. More men are raped than women. More men are victims of DV. More men experience sexual violence than women. It's just that society at large doesn't care nearly as much w…
/r/MensRights19/03/16 01:11 AM
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In the US alimony law is unfair. Period end of sentence. Alimony law is unfair. This unfairness massively disproportionately affects men. This is why it's a Men's Rights Issue. There are no lobbying efforts or activism saying that men shouldn't have to pay alimony to women, but women that pay alimony should keep paying. The issue with "The Wage Gap" is it's trying to fix "Equal pay for equal work" that isn't an issue. There does exist an earnings gap that is different pay for different work. Adv…
/r/MensRights19/03/16 01:03 AM
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Paradoxically the most visible signs are usually the hardest to see. Things you see literally every day are so common that they don't even rise the the level of notice. The most visible sign of casual misandry is clothing, specifically clothing choice. Men are expected to wear much more concealing clothing than women. Our bodies are scary rapey things that must be hidden in public spaces. Men's clothing being so concealing is so very everywhere no one even notices.
/r/MensRights19/03/16 12:54 AM
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If you think the current narrative supports your position, then that's step 1 and 2. That would make it time for step 3, gathering support. Talking about the issue to groups is how this gets done, political groups are just as good or better than any other type of meeting where you could talk about Legal Parental Surrender. Laws won't change yet, but you can make a great deal of headway on gaining momentum. Really the biggest dispute here is how compatable LPS is with the current narrative. I sus…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 09:58 PM
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Step 1 for advocacy isn't to lobby government to change the laws. Step 1 is disrupt the current dominant social narrative on the topic, in this case feminism. Step 2 is replace it with a better social narrative on the topic, in this case interconnected and interdependent gender roles. Step 3 build support for change on a grass roots level Step 4 Start actual lobbying efforts to change laws We are well underway on step 1. Step 1 is going great, the threat narrative of victim feminism is now getti…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:12 PM
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Sorry to tell you this, but your proposal wasn't actually forwarded to party leadership. It was filed in the round cabinet (rubbish bin). Being told that it's getting forwarded to party leadership sure did make you feel listened to and important, didn't it.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 11:38 AM
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What are you asking? You want to disprove statistics on false rape accusations? False Rape accusations are bad. Do the statistics matter? There is no doubt at all that they do happen. They need to be considered as a factor, even if very rare. 2.WHY women choose fields is irrelevant to the fact that they DO choose. The Feminist assertion that women SHOULD choose STEM is no more valid than the Traditionalist assertion that women SHOULD choose homemaking. What base assumptions? There are a great ma…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 02:37 AM
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Now, is that actually satire or is it real feminism running into Poe's Law from the other direct?
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:46 AM
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I call BS. One of the key things to do for any rape accusation is to collect and process verifiable scientific evidence. Yes, false accusations are a real problem. Collecting evidence that can at least prove or disprove the claims of intercourse is vital to any investigation. Collecting and processing rape kits are VITAL to proving accusations fas as much as they are to proving rape occured.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:35 AM
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It's Men's Human Rights Movement. It started as MRM Men's Rights Movement, but feminist kept claiming that we wanted patriarchal privileges, not basic human rights for men. So we did minor name change since what we really advocate for is for basic human right to be extended to men.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 05:25 AM
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There are maladaptive behaviors that are seen much more often in males and others that are seen much more often in females. To talk about "Toxic Masculinity" quickly and inevitably runs afoul of "Masculinity, maleness is toxic". It is important to talk about maladaptive behaviors in both men and women, but labeling this "Toxic" derails that conversation.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 12:32 AM
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The MHRM is worlds away from being able to even make an attempt at competing in the world of Money Politics. Just one Feminist Organization (NOW) has somewhere on the order of 20 MILLION dollars per year to spend. If we start spending money on Lobbying, then they will redouble their spending and just plow us under. The money we do have and can raise can be put to much better uses. Attend AVFM's conferences. Start other MRA conferences. Donate / found shelters for abused men. One of the biggest v…
/r/MensRights15/03/16 10:59 PM
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So why do MRAs seem to get blamed for like...everything? Because they CAN blame us. Facts, evidence, reality, these things are unimportant to the Crusaders out to destroy the Great Satan of "The Patriarchy". Jihadists for women don't know of the world outside of their religious indoctrination. They have been instilled with a very simplistic idea, men are bad. Since MRA advocate FOR MEN, we must be the very incarnation of evil and responsible for ALL evil. Also, love the "looks like a duck, quack…
/r/MensRights15/03/16 10:43 PM
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Feminism is an unsalvageable train wreck. There are two distinct and nearly unrelated forms of feminism. One is "Anything and Everything and all thing and nothing and puppy dogs and Unicorns for Everyone" These are the non-activist dictionary feminists that "just want equality for everyone", but never bother to look past their own nose to understand what advocacy is needed where. The second form of Feminism is hateful sexist bigotry wrapped in wet tissue paper. These are the activists that are p…
/r/MensRights15/03/16 05:01 PM
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"Judge to make ruling" is not news worthy. I could lodge a formal request to make myself President Obama's legal guardian. A judge would make a ruling in this case as well. That lawyers representing the woman made arguments in her favor is also not news worthy. Lawyers did their jobs. We don't bother to write news stories when "Trash pick up will be done as scheduled, like always" Now, if the judge actually awards her custody, that would be worthy of posting. That she filed to get her kids back …
/r/MensRights15/03/16 04:40 PM
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Two wrongs don't make a right. The correct standard to be used is "Beyond Reasonable doubt". I don't care if Columbia is using BAD standards in other cases. The correct standard is "Beyond a reasonable doubt"
/r/MensRights15/03/16 03:14 AM
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Cthulhu would make a lousy president.....that's rather my point. Still better than Trump or Clinton. Also, your position seems to be that a Trump presidency would only be a little bit worse than the Presidency that got us bogged down in two unwinnable wars and brought the economy to the very edge of a second great depression. Your kinda making my case for me.
/r/MensRights14/03/16 03:11 AM
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You only think you remember seeing that. This is why we need to NOT "listen and believe"
/r/MensRights14/03/16 01:54 AM
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I think your loosing track of the conversation here. Both Clinton and Trump are worse candidates than an extra dimensional demonic deity. Vote Cuthulu, because in this case it is the lesser of the evils. I am using colorful language. I'm using it about both Clinton and Trump in Equal measure. I'm not trying to defend Clinton, she is a neo-conservative Imperialist war monger. Why does it matter if I call Trump an arrogant petulant child in a conversation about how much worse than Cthulhu these ca…
/r/MensRights14/03/16 01:52 AM
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First, a miscommunication. That Trump had a TV show is rather irrelevant. The "Reality TV Star" was about his campaign. He's not running on a solid platform, but on a TV popularity contest with votes cast in actual voting booths rather than hotlines. Trump doesn't have the chops. I know this because he has failed business venture after failed business venture after failed business venture. Trumps failure as a buisnessman has cost him around 5 BILLION dollars (this is the difference between Trump…
/r/MensRights14/03/16 01:37 AM
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It's good you archived it. A post questioning feminist dogma isn't going to stay up on Good men Project for long. The Archive will last though.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 06:48 PM
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Emma giving "Honest False Testimony" is a solid enough defense that there could be no getting to "Beyond a reasonable doubt". I am going to defend due process and "Beyond a reasonable doubt", even for people like Emma. This "honest false Testimony" is not a valid defense for the faculty adviser or other administrators involved in the case. This is why there are cases against the school. There is enough evidence to pursue damages against school and administrators. The question was should Sulkowic…
/r/MensRights13/03/16 06:37 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGMi0UtvTIc No she should not be prosecuted. Prosecution for perjury is for people that knowingly and intentionally lie. The evidence strongly points to Emma misremembering and having confirmation bias and self justifying, not intentionally lying. We need to not "listen and believe" because Emma's version of what happened is clearly not the objective truth. This doesn't mean she was intentionally lying, memory is very unreliable when it comes to what happened.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 05:44 PM
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Feminism is not women. Women are not feminism. Women and feminism are not the same thing. The world would be better off without FEMINISM. Saying Feminism is a bad thing has no connection at all to thinking WOMEN are bad. Women are people. Feminism is a corrupt and bigoted ideology. Men are overwhelmingly the drivers of invention and building stuff. So overwhelmingly so that it's sometimes difficult to find inventions actually done by women (there are a few). This doesn't mean women are holding s…
/r/MensRights13/03/16 05:23 PM
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A write in vote for Cuthulu is hardly properly participating in that system. The choice of inaction is an actionable choice. A write in vote for Cuthulu is anti-the system activism, not apathy as to what happens. You don't want a hand in empowering shitty, mediocre, corrupt, dishonest, disloyal, unhelpful, condescending, irresponsible chickenshit politicians? I understand that fully. It's a reasonable stance. A vote for Cuthulu will do MORE to not empower these people than simply abstaining.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 05:02 PM
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Congress would fight Trump every step of the way, and this would be part of the problem. There are a great many actions that the president can take unilaterally. While only congress can declare war, the president is commander and chief of the armed services. He could order "military action" in Mexico. I can see Trump trying to hold the Congress Hostage with threats of ording an invasion of Canada, or pardoning all the murderers and rapists.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 04:40 PM
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Vote Cuthulu. Then you did vote, you can complain, and your vote had the same affect as not voting. Voting in most districts takes like 5 min. If your not willing to spend 5 min actually DOING, your opinion isn't worth much.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 04:27 PM
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I agree that Trump is to the left of Clinton. The question of Trump Vs Clinton isn't one of parcing hairbreadths of difference in policy. Trump is a pompous ass that is a reality TV star, not a statesman. Trump doesn't have the chops needed to not do something crazy stupid, Clinton does. In my defence of Clinton, let me re itterate Cuthulu is better than Clinton whom is better than Trump.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 04:23 PM
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/feb/13/donald-trump/donald-trump-says-his-early-opposition-iraq-war-wa/ Politifact says your wrong. Trump didn't oppose the War in Iraq until after it was clear it was a failure, before that he sorta kinda supported it. The neo-conservative Imperialist is less likely to kick off WW3 than the brash arrogant petulant child that wants to play with his new toys.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 04:14 PM
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Clinton is a status-quo person. She is the establishment. She won't be pushing through big changes of any sort. She will do lots of little things to "Help women excel in STEM" and similar. She will probably push for even more useless and burdensome anti-"Wage Gap" legislation. She won't do good, but her harm will be reasonably limited. Trump on the other hand will bankrupt the nation. He will push us to the very edge of WW3, if not kick off the end of humanity with nuclear war. He will destroy w…
/r/MensRights13/03/16 03:42 AM
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My first choice is Sanders as well. Should it come down to Hillary vs Trump I'm going to write in Cthulhu because an actual non-human demonic entity would be the lesser of the evils. Between Hillary and Trump, Hillary is the better option. Her economic plan isn't good, it's more of pamper the rich. It is better than Trumps plan that is exceedingly over simplistic and would result in Deficits never before seen. Hillary is reasonably respected and liked in the international community. Trump is a p…
/r/MensRights13/03/16 03:21 AM
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Dear God. Practicing physiology based on political ideologies? Really? L Ron Hubbard ended up founding an entire religion so that he could have cover for practicing physiology based on his political ideologies. This type of feminism is Scientology 2.0!!!!
/r/MensRights13/03/16 03:06 AM
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22.5 of 23 are complete BS. They at least did get half of one correct. RBG was the deciding vote to over turn a law that discriminated against men. This was a singular law, not "laws" so half a point. If RBG was the standard for feminism, I would so totally be a feminist.
/r/MensRights12/03/16 02:17 AM
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The argument here is that social and cultural pressures discourage women from even making the attempt. That we have pipeline directing women to do "women's work" and men to do "men's work". This is not an invalid argument, there is in fact a great deal of merit to this argument. The problem is that the correction for this gender divide in pipelines is only addressed in ways that benefit women. "Women in STEM" initiatives address 25% of the problem. We also need "Men in CARE fields" and teaching …
/r/MensRights12/03/16 01:22 AM
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That was actually much more fair than most "but women have it worse" propaganda. There really is an issue with women getting pigeon holed into the mommy role and statistical discrimination based on likely hood of pregnancy. Feminist solutions of "solve this problem by making it worse" are clearly retrograde stupidity, but that doesn't negate the issue. The jewelry question has an answer that's wrong for men and one that's wrong for women, the game recognizes double standards against men, even if…
/r/MensRights11/03/16 06:16 AM
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"Weight Neutral" and "Dedicated to women with Curves" Yep, there is no double think going on here. It's all in your imagination.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 05:51 AM
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So we should have tens of thousands of "The President of the United States" at any given time? This is what your saying. That the goal of "The President of the United State" is an achievable goal for the tens of thousands of small children that say they want to do that. They shouldn't have changed their goals to more reasonable and attainable pursuits, they should have "changed the steps" and all become President at the same time. Never mind that only 44 individuals have ever held that office, a…
/r/MensRights11/03/16 05:26 AM
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We should have astronauts. It's just not an achievable goal for 99.9999% of people. You ask 5 year olds what they want to be, a great many of them will say astronaut, and this is fine big dreams are good for small children. You ask 15 year olds what they want to be, very few will still think they stand a chance in hell of becoming an astronaut. The 10's of people still dreaming of being an astronaut at 20 is a reasonable number of people gunning for that job, and still most of them will not make…
/r/MensRights11/03/16 02:24 AM
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Yeah, NO. Transgendered individuals are gendered male or female. Their issue is that their mental gender and their physical gender don't match. They are still male or female and that's easily determinable. Using genitalia as the standard....they are male or female. Using "I feel like a ...." as the standard, they are male or female. The only people this "discriminates against" are the virtually non-existent "other-kin".
/r/MensRights10/03/16 08:52 PM
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The first Feminist Convention was Senica Falls in 1848. The first major feminist victory was women's right to vote in 1926. It took feminism 80 years to get shit together and make real changes. The first Men's Rights Conference was in 2014. That same year Our Activism got VAWA changed to be less anti-male. It's not going to be 6 months or even a year for MRA to be taken seriously. It will take decades. The next steps for the MHRM is to keep doing what we are doing. We need to keep talking, keep …
/r/MensRights10/03/16 08:42 PM
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It's not illegal to run for president, just don't expect to actually win. It's not a crime to try and get a spot on the first manned mission to Mars, just don't expect to actually go. It's not a question of legality, its a question of viability. "Marry a good woman" should be on the same list as "Capture a live Yeti". It's great to dream, but some dreams just won't happen regardless of how important they are to you.
/r/MensRights10/03/16 02:54 PM
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It's telling men to stop chasing THAT DREAM. Small children think they really can become President or an Astronaut or a Rock Star or Married to a good woman. By the time boys become men they realize that these are not reasonable and attainable aspirations. Putting "married to a good woman" on the same list of impossible dreams as "be the first person to walk on Mars" is not discouraging men from chasing their dreams of owning a house or training seeing eye dogs.
/r/MensRights10/03/16 01:42 PM
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Well he got predator shaming correct. He didn't do so well on "why it's bad for women" It's not the shy and bashful men that are abusive shitlords. Men that have tried desperatly and can't let go are not beating their GF into submition, they are buying her flowers EVERY DAY. The real problem for women is MGTOW. It's shameful and creepy and rapey for me to even make eye contact? Sure, you make the rules. I'm going fishing, see you never. This thins the pool of avalible men down and many women sta…
/r/MensRights10/03/16 01:33 PM
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One issue voting is a terribad idea. A Hilary Clinton administration will do nothing to address divorce issues or alimony. It will do a great deal of pushing for "The Wage Gap" and "Women in STEM" and "Rape Culture". Do you have a reason to vote FOR Clinton? Is there some quality that I've missed that would make her a good president?
/r/MensRights10/03/16 03:23 AM
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Both men and women need post conception rights or neither do. That was the point I was making. That women currently have legally enforced privileges when it comes to reproduction doesn't affect my belief on what SHOULD be. You are very correct in that currently women have many choices that men do not. This is a statement of what is, not of what should be. You do have a very valid point in that males, all males even male children, are held responsible for children even if they did actively refuse…
/r/MensRights09/03/16 07:31 PM
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Both men and women have the right to refuse sex. Both men and women have the right to surgical sterilization (though this is more limited for men than women) Both men and women have the right to insist on using a condom. If we are to advocate for equality this needs to be the end of the list of rights for both men and women or it needs to NOT be the end of the list of rights for BOTH men and women.
/r/MensRights09/03/16 03:08 PM
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That article does nothing to address the wage gap pre-1963. It points out that hypergamy and gold digging where common practices in the early part of last century. It shows that fear of alimony and marriage in bad faith where issues men feared. It doesn't even mention women making the same money for the same work, let alone provide any evidence for that.
/r/MensRights09/03/16 02:59 PM
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So being anti-"the most explicitly consensual sex possible" isn't anti-sex. Kink and porn don't just get verbal "yeses" or body language. In kink and porn there are explicitly written consent contracts. What does she want if signed consent forms don't show that the sex is consentual and not "bad violence" if violence at all.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 09:31 PM
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It would be less obvious. "Hillary declares war on 16th different nation to help expand women's rights" "Hillary removes all taxes from 'job creators' to spur economic growth" "New 'hate speech' law to target non-feminists"
/r/MensRights08/03/16 08:08 PM
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Not all Clintons are the same. Hillary would be a very different president than Bill. Your not voting in Bill for a third term.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 08:05 PM
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Simply put, if you concede this point you pull the rug out from under the rest of the feminist argument. An issue existed 65 years ago, it was corrected 60 years ago. The continued existance of this issue is a point of dogma, not evidence. Agree with and support women's rights battles that where fought and won long before you where born, this destroys the "you hate women" arguments and keeps the debate on topic of the current disparity in annual earnings.
/r/MensRights08/03/16 06:18 PM
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Gender based wage discrimination was a thing in the 1950's. It was a generally accepted and plainly stated thing. In 1963 the equal pay act was passed and by 1965 gender based wage discrimination was largely eliminated. The Wage Gap was a real thing in the 1950's. It was corrected in the 1960's. We still hear about it today because the existence of a wage gap became dogma rather than evidence based. If you can find that link debunking the wage gap in the 30's and 40's, it would be interesting. I…
/r/MensRights08/03/16 03:52 PM
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Feminism is an ideological belief in the great Satan of "The Patriarchy". While it's easiest to point out the sexist bigotry of the loudest and most obnoxious feminists, the Jihad against "The Patriarchy" is common to all feminists. This Great Crusade against "The Patriarchy" IS feminism. It's not the loudest and most obnoxious feminists that are the problem. They are just the easiest to point at. The very foundation ideology of feminism is the problem. Now, that's established. I have no clue ho…
/r/MensRights08/03/16 06:13 AM
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Gotta love media spin. There was that paper posted here a few weeks ago that claimed to have found gender bias against women in Open Source. That gender bias ammounted to 1 in 500 women contributing to open source will ever face discrimination. This finding has now been spun up to "STRONG bias against women in Open Source" Reading this article, I'm unsure if it was bad science producing bad results. If it was Misinterpretation of good results by the programer. Or if it was media spin on a reason…
/r/MensRights07/03/16 05:26 PM
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This isn't sounding like a feminist. This is validly citing misogyny. Misogyny is a real thing, and Trump displays it regularly. Romney didn't claim that this proves every male in the entire world is part of some "The Patriarchy". He isn't quote mining. He's not willfully misinterpreting the Trump Statements to make them into something they are not. The Hillary Campaign trying to call Bernie Misogynistic for not allowing Hillary to talk over him is what feminism looks like.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 04:09 AM
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I personally don't find this to be bad. Men's professional attire is much more readily available at thrift stores and consignment shops. Women's professional attire is both more expensive and less available. Poor women getting professional attire is harder than poor men getting professional attire. Addressing this disparity (disparity, not discrimination) is reasonable and valid.
/r/MensRights07/03/16 04:00 AM
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Homophobia is an irrational religious based fear, much like the fear of Witchcraft. It has nothing to do with being treated like a woman. It has everything to do with "The guy on stage told me a magical sky daddy would spank me if I didn't fear and hate."
/r/MensRights06/03/16 04:21 AM
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The OP made a very specific point about laws and courts, then wrote a list of items that fall outside of that very narrow focus. DV shelters that do not have space for men are operating in direct violation of VAWA. DV shelter space for men as a very narrow focus is no longer an issue of biased laws favoring women. All of the other issues with VAWA are still true, but the very narrow focus of shelter space for abused men was corrected with the 2014 re-authorization. Use of the Duluth model of dom…
/r/MensRights05/03/16 08:40 PM
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Yeah. It amazing how "Because Vagina" is a valid argument when feminists want it to be a valid argument and an invalid argument when feminists want it to be an invalid argument.
/r/MensRights05/03/16 07:35 PM
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Your list is crap. The 2014 Reauth of VAWA fixed this problem. Men are no longer legally discriminated against in this way. The problem still exists, but not because it's supported by the law. The "Tender Year" doctrine is bad for both men and women. It does as you say and denies fathers parental rights. It is also bad for women putting child care obligations of their shoulders, limiting their participation in the workforce. Both men and women are charged with statutory rape. This isn't an issue…
/r/MensRights05/03/16 02:06 PM
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Her body Her choice. While this sucks for the man, I will not deny a woman control over her own body. The situation that we can advocate for and about is when the woman wants the child and the man doesn't. In this case he shouldn't be forced into parenthood against his will. Men do need parental rights, but not when the rights come at the expense of women's rights.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 11:17 PM
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Try "The Red Pill". PUA techniques are not a men's Rights Issue and for the most part support the backward sexist stereotypes we are trying to end.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 11:12 PM
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Well we have decidedly found the point of disagreement. It is a point we can very easily agree to disagree on. You think her legal training > her feminist victim complex I think Her feminist victim complex > her legal training This is subjective evaluations of a third party. I can't fault your evaluation, it's well justified. It's just not the same evaluation I make.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 12:47 AM
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The product is real, the affects they are claiming it will have are not. There is a very real perception that men make more money literally because "penis", not because we choose more difficult and dangerous work. They don't grasp that because "penis" is figurative.
/r/MensRights02/03/16 12:41 PM
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Marriage is actually real slavery. 200 years ago the marriage contract was a man and a woman trading the man's excess labor for the woman's reproductive ability. Both the husband and the wife owned part of the other. In the past 50 years the "ownership" of the woman has been dismantled, but not the "ownership" of the husband. The bi-directional ownership of 200 years ago wasn't slavery. The one directional ownership of today is. If you want out, the best option isn't to fight but to stop fightin…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 09:29 PM
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No, homophobia is about the lack of control over forcing others into properly preforming their gender roles. If threats like "You'll never get a woman acting like that" have no affect at all on a given man, this inspires fear because the primary tool to coerce him into "be a man" is gone. This fear of non-conformism isn't limited to women, men are just as bad. The non-conformism of homosexuality, and the fear it insires isn't limited to men, lesbians are just as common as homosexual men. While m…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 09:13 PM
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The feminazi sociology class is actually a great place to advocate for men's rights. You just have to do it smart. Advocate for equality!!! The status quo of "The Tender Years Doctrine" has lead to reinforcing the sexist belief that women's place is taking care of children, and that men are unneeded in child rearing. We need to have the assumption of 50/50 shared custody in divorce!!!! Equality is equality. Hacking off heathy parts of an infants genitalia is a barbric and destructive religious r…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 03:29 AM
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Nearly everything I've seen posted in Against Men's Rights is either deliberiate misinterpretations or not even Men's Rights. Can you cite some examples of where you think they made a valid point about a post? On the surface, yes, we need to address any aspects of the MHRM that start to become hate movement like. We have already done this with "The Red Pill" and "PUA". I'm not aware of any current issues or posts that are #KillAllMen kind of hateful.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:48 PM
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It's not in the best interest of the child. It's in pursute of benevolent sexism for the benefit of the mother. "Best interest of the child" is a post hoc rationalization for pandering to women because vagina.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 03:26 AM
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1b is the senerio she is addressing. It is her belief that this is why she had 2/3 male investments. Being conscious in her bias has the intended affect of counter balancing the unconscious bias. This is being said by a venture capitalist. RBG said equality would be all 9 justices being female. RBG, unlike any other feminist, gets the benefit of the doubt because her ruling have consistently been against sexism even when that sexism is female privilege. She didn't make that statement in isolatio…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 03:14 AM
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Having a 2/3 ratio in favor of men wasn't stepping past good investments based on gender? The big difference is it was unconsciously rather than deliberately. Taking deliberate steps to counter unconscious bias isn't flawed sexist logic.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 01:36 PM
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Not what the article says. We don't need half truths to make our points. By supporting half truths we only make it easier to dismiss MRA. The author had decided to make sure the next NINE investmest will be in female owned ventures. She looked at her past investments and relized that 2/3 of the investments went to male owned ventures. By making the next nine investments in female owned ventures it will make it 2/3 of the investments in female owned firms. It would be better had she only dedicate…
/r/MensRights27/02/16 09:47 PM
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Still missing the point. The burden of proof needs to be innocent until proven guilty. The accuser needs to prove lack of consent, not the accused proving consent. In this situation and the others similar to it, the proof of absence of consent is that the individual is not legally capable of consenting. This is positive proof that there was not consent. This is not an assumption of guilt, this is proof beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt. This isn't even an edge case where it's questionable, like…
/r/MensRights27/02/16 09:20 PM
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Pick something that she enjoys, and make the same argument about THAT. "Reality TV" should have an NC-17 rating and should be less avalible than porn. "Reality TV" not only is this form of entertainment just as far from reality as porn, it actually claims to be reality. This gives young impressionable girls unrealistic expectations of drama in their own lives, drama they will create, drama that will destroy relationships!!!!! You can make a similarly bad argument for ANYTHING. When you make that…
/r/MensRights27/02/16 04:15 PM
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A verbal YES isn't needed. Mutes can still consent. They can express consent with nodding or even writing it down. This isn't a "Morning after Regret" situation. This is a "She was passed out in a puddle of her own sick.....but she didn't say NO" situation. This isn't a "Morning after Regret" situation. This is a Statutory rape situation. Yes, the 35 year old school teacher had sex with a 12 year old boy....but what is the proof he didn't want it?
/r/MensRights27/02/16 01:34 PM
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You don't like the comparison of the government forcing someone to have sex with me. That's fair. What about my ability to say "NO"? Should that cute neighbor be allowed to drug me and force sex since I've "been deprived of intimacy" for 10 years?
/r/MensRights27/02/16 11:54 AM
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So, depriving someone of intimacy should be a crime? I've been celibate for about 10 years now. Who should the government order to have sex with me so that I'm not deprived of intimacy any more? My neighbor is cute, but she doesn't want to have sex with me. Can I charge her with depriving me of intimacy? Do you see how quickly "deprived of intimacy" get really really twisted?
/r/MensRights26/02/16 08:28 AM
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God, I hate questions of "Capitalism" or "Socialism" One and only one type of economy has ever existed anywhere at any time. One and only one type of economy can possibly exist. That is the mixed market economy. Shy of the entirety of all sentient life in the universe dying off (this isn't even limited to humans) there will always be "capitalism" and "socialism". The only question is the balance between the two. In short capitalism CAN NOT fail, neither can socialism. The only thing that happens…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 08:22 AM
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That's what I'm trying to get at. It wasn't an oversight. It was a bad conclusion based on misinformation. It took exceptionally little evidence to show the misinformation that lead to the conclusion that prompted the sexist advocacy. It is actually rather important that you recognize you where the victim of a large scale campaign of misinformation. Once you can see this, you will be able to see the other campaigns of misinformation much more clearly.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 08:10 AM
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I can see why Feminists don't want accurate reports and surveys. Accurate reports fairly well demolish the threat narrative of victim feminism. I can see why Feminists don't want accurate reports and surveys, because then government funds to help victims of DV won't all go to their personal pet projects. What I don't see is why governments don't want accurate reports and surveys. It's not the government with a vested interest in maintaining the threat narrative of victim feminism, it's feminists…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:25 PM
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How long will this presentation be? If you don't have at least 4 hours, that's way to much material. Pick ONE of the ideas you have listed. For a good presentation on women's spousal abuse, it would take an hour or so to unpack the Duluth model and explain how male victims are obfuscated. If you want to talk on disproportionate suicide rates, you will need to address the many factors that drive men to suicide as well as provide an explination for why women Attempt suicide more. If you want to ta…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:20 PM
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Your line of thinking was perfectly clear. There was no doubt that you thought addressing girls education needed to be a gendered priority because girls where being denied education based on gender discrimination. This line of thinking is very clear and understandable. It is based on misinformation. There isn't a massive world wide problem of girls being denied education based on gender discrimination. There is a massive world wide problem of children being denied education based on social class…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 08:58 PM
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1)No, feminism doesn't have any valid points. Almost all of their points are half truths. We should end sexism, all sexism. Feminism is only interested in ending the sexism that negatively affects women. So, the Philharmonic thing you talked about is a real thing. Two and three generations ago sexism against women was a real problem. These problems have been addressed, they are not 150% solved, but they have been addressed. The 3,000 jobs your discriminated against in music is a pittance to the …
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:07 AM
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The anti-porn Feminists really are just anti-sex traditionalists in Feminist clothing. They view sex solely as a means of procreation. This adds up to discrimination against women in their minds because it puts a very real biological distinction between men and women on the table.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 11:17 PM
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Knew better than to expect a challenge to the status quo would go unmolested by the PC police.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 11:10 PM
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I am agreeing with the update where you said the father should have the right to opt-out of parental rights and responsibilities. Abortion isn't a special female privilege if men have "Financial Abortion" as an option. Every one men and women world wide having abortion rights is something I can support (it would be financial abortion / Legal Paternal Surrender / no child support for men)
/r/MensRights22/02/16 11:03 PM
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Give him a break. Almost no one comes here with their head on right. It takes some time and patients for them to realize that "fix X, but only for people with correct genitalia" is exceptionally sexist. We can only show people a better way of dealing with gender issues if we bother to take the time to show people a better way of dealing with gender issues.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:57 PM
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When feminism gets rephrased it's really easy for egalitarians to see the flaws in it. For #6, Abortion for her, Legal Paternal surrender for him would be very supportable for me. Your further description of #9 sounds good.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:51 PM
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Claims of racism could be easily avoided with NewSpeak and Legalize. Just like with Milo being sexually explicit, he chose the words carefully and with the intent to offend. The Doctor trying to set up the scholarships may not have known better. The lawyers writing up the formal document sure as hell did.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:39 PM
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I'm living in the deep south. I have no context for the situation in Canada. I will phrase it for the area I know. Racial integration is an ongoing issue for many institutions of higher education. While schools that where traditionally "White" schools have been largely integrated, schools that where traditionally "Black" Schools are having a much harder time attracting white students to be a properly integrated school. To that end, in support of integration and traditionally black schools, I'm c…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:23 PM
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Lets look at these one by one. Education, but only for people with the correct genitalia....pass Reduce Religious extremism to help people thrive, but only people with the correct genitalia....pass. Abolish genital mutilation....I'm on board with this Deal with poverty and homelessness.....I'm on board with this Reduce the impact of gender roles for men and women (Your phrasing needs some work).....otherwise, I'm on board Legal rights for women that men don't have.....pass Reduce discrimination …
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:11 PM
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I suspect that this ruling is a fair and just one. The will was not written on the back of a napkin. It was drawn up by lawyers well verst in both legalize and feminist double plus good new speak. The connotations and context that we are not privy to in the explicit language of the will would have been very important. For example. I want to make a scholarship for men. I could try to phrase this as "A scholarship for men", but that violates the double plus good new speak. I could pick a universit…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 09:54 PM
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Change happens slowly. Well at least good change that will last happens slowly. You've been here for months, it will take decades to fix the problems men face. The two biggest things you can do are don't burn out and be the change. Change that will last is all about taking baby steps, not sprinting a marathon. All the stuff posted here is infuriating, help the men posting about their pain process it in a healthy way. Learn what mistakes they made to find themselves in that position and teach the…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 09:25 PM
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When posting and reading this stuff, keep in mind the problem this represents. The problem IS NOT the discrimination against men, but the double standard. If positive discrimination in this manner is reasonable, then we should also see positive discrimination in this manner in other fields. We should see positive discrimination for men in teaching and nursing. The issue is not discrimination against men, but that a similar "Women will not be considered for this position" for teaching or nursing …
/r/MensRights22/02/16 09:03 PM
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Social Security is an insurance. There is no valid denial of this. It is paid for through a tax. There is no valid denial of this. Social Security is both a tax and an insurance. This is beside the point. It's not a sports match. One "Team" doesn't win, and the other "Team" looses. It's not a zero sum game. Women didn't lose the match because they get smaller monthy pay outs. Men didn't loose the match because they get a lower payout ratio. Trying to look at Social Security through the lens of "…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 02:07 PM
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But how does simply complaining impact men's rights? It gives men with no where else to go a place to express their emotions where they won't be labeled a "Mansplainer" and told that their emotions aren't real or that they just want to control women. Having a fourm where men are not only allowed to, but encouraged to "simply complain" gives men much needed space to open up emotionally in a space that's safe(ish) for them to do so. Being allowed to express their pain helps men deal with that pain…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 02:47 AM
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Feminism is anything and everything and all things and nothing and puppy dogs and unicorns for every one. For me to even begin to be able to shake hands with "Feminism" I will need a much more solid definition and direction for the movement as a whole. I would need feminists, and I mean ALL FEMINISTS, to agree upon a singular definition and direction. Once "Feminism" is a solid enough thing that I'm no longer sword fighting a fart, then it will be a solid enough thing to shake hands with.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 02:30 AM
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Social Security is an insurance, not a sports match. There are not major glaring issues with it short-changing anyone. If we are only to consider pay in vs pay out, we loose most of the picture for Social Security. The studies that find women are getting "short-changed" generally don't consider how much they paid in. The studies that show men getting "short-changed" generally don't consider non-"direct to me" payouts. Both of my Grandmothers are still alive. Both are getting Social Security. Nei…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 02:08 AM
2

In the insurance game, if the house doesn't "Win", the firm fails and every one insured with them looses. You want to be insured with a strong stable well financed insurance company, but that means paying a premium for them to be profitable.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 01:59 AM
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http://quoteinvestigator.com/2013/04/06/fish-climb/ It means people are different very radically different and trying to judge equality on a sameness scale will result in very inequitable out comes.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 04:16 PM
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How do you define "equality", because this is where the dispute is, not if we should have "equality" There are three versions of "Equality" 1)there is no need to teach fish to climb trees, but we also shouldn't judge fish on their ability to climb trees. 2) Equality of opportunity. There are not laws policy or procedures that discriminate. If you apply to MIT, you will get in before all lesser qualified candidates with out regard to gender. 3) Equality of outcomes. There should be equal numbers …
/r/MensRights21/02/16 05:05 AM
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Hey, at least it's celebrating a positive masculinity. In this case drinking responsibly. Now if they only didn't portray that as a rare exception rather than the rule.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 04:52 AM
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Yeah, This entire thing boils down to one question. One that we should agree with feminists on, but they have long since lost their minds. The question before the courts and the public is "Are women capable of signing contracts?" That women should be treated with the same agency that men have is something that feminists fought long and hard for. That they are now fighting against women having the agency needed to sign contracts.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 12:15 AM
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The issue is oppression olympics. By talking about suicide by gun, mental health becomes a topic in the gun debate. This is an "oppressed group" so obviously any one talking about them in anything other than super over the top positive light is stigmatizing an oppressed group. Women as an oppressed group can be talked about in an over the top super positive, can do no wrong light, so that's where the focus is. Where gun violence hurts women. If this doesn't make sense. Don't worry. This is iconi…
/r/MensRights20/02/16 10:35 PM
1

Mad Max isn't my kind of movie. It's loaded with political commentary that's just off base and lots of cars going really fast and exploding. Some how "I don't care for the not so subtle sexist commentary or the exploding cars" got translated into "I'm organizing a boycott of the movie"
/r/MensRights20/02/16 05:09 AM
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When you made the list in 2005, having VAWA on the list was perfectly valid. We do need to update these lists as things change. "The Wage Gap" was actually an issue in the 1950's with women getting paid less for the same work. This was corrected in the 60's, but feminists didn't take it off their lists of injustices. I don't want to see VAWA turn into "The Wage Gap" of the MHRM.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 09:24 PM
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Great list. The data/stats on stuff like this is hard to do because no one in the media makes a big deal out of rights women have but men don't. With this list it's possible to show yes women have that and no men don't. I would make one change to the list. VAWA. When first passed in 1993, VAWA should have been on this list. For 20 years VAWA was an incredibly sexist piece of female privilege. The 2013 reauthorization added in non-discrimination provisions that have done wonders for male victims.…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:42 PM
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The MHRM faces the same issue here that the negro/black/african-american community does. That issue is vilification. For both communities it doesn't matter what the label is, it's not the label that's villified. It's the community. It doesn't matter what banner I advocate for men under, that banner will get conflated with PUA in order to discredit me. We have seen this with the "black" community. That community has now had 7 or 8 different labels, all of which are "bad" because it's not the labe…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:30 PM
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Ah yes. Religious intolerance. Scientific illiteracy. Dogmatic "faith based ethos"......but the REAL problem is their excessively traditional view of gender roles. Not preparing these boys for real interactions with modern women is a real issue, but it's a very minor issue next to training them to be anti-science religiously intolerant bigots.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 01:12 PM
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God, that link needs to die. It is the one and only example I know of where a self proclaimed feminist got kicked out of feminism because she was too feminist. That post goes to far even according to feminists. MacKinnon and Dworkins said very similar things, and these are feminists considered to be in good standings with feminism. Quote them if you want an example of "How feminists view men"
/r/MensRights19/02/16 01:01 PM
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I don't see sexism. I see an asshole that isn't benevolently sexist. I see men treated that way all the time. "Manspreading" need I say more. mwobuddy has a foul mouth, but that foulness isn't limited to women. What you are seeing is the lack of benevolent sexism where he doesn't use harsh words to talk about women. And lostapwbm is being sarcastic. The comment quoted was taken out of context. This context is important. There are a great many ways AWALT....women breath air....All women ARE like …
/r/MensRights18/02/16 08:34 PM
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WHERE is the misogyny, the hatred of women? I don't see it on this sub. I don't see it in the specific comments that post quotes. What I do see is a lack of benevolent sexism. Not being sexist isn't sexism.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 01:45 AM
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Yes and no. Boys and men CAN be taught how to socialize with women in a formal way. The issue is that WOMEN must also be taught the same set of rules and standards for socializing with men. We see in many ways that social interaction can be taught. We see the same people interacting in different ways in different situations. We see very different interactions at the Church social, in the Workplace and at NightClubs. We see these different interactions because people have been taught how to inter…
/r/MensRights17/02/16 07:41 PM
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White men are on the short lists. They just don't get much media attention. There is nothing "special" to report about another old white dude being considered for a position of power. Women and minorities getting on the short list IS something the yellow jounalism of modern media can spin into a big deal.
/r/MensRights17/02/16 07:28 PM
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The most affective way to argue against the current dominant social narrative on gender isn't to say they've got it wrong. The most effective way to argue against the current dominant social narrative on gender is to speak out against the "but only when it negatively affects people with the correct genitalia" aspect. People have been convinced of a really bad version of "equality", but that's what we have to work with.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 06:40 PM
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The problem isn't "Women only jobs". The problem is the double standard. If you where also getting equal or greater number of listing for "Men only jobs" in child care or nursing (Or greater to help correct the gender imbalance in higher education), then there would be no issue.
/r/MensRights16/02/16 11:21 AM
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The law of Title IX is one thing. It's enforcement is something different. Enforcement of title IX is in the hands of the most hateful most bigoted ideologs of the SJW. Since enforcement is in their hands they judge offending someone afflicted by special snowflake syndrome a violation, but not gender studies. It's not the written law of title IX that's the big issue, but it's enforcement.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 06:49 PM
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Um, no. This isn't male feminist goes screeching retard. This is autistic has difficulty processing difficult social interaction.
/r/MensRights15/02/16 06:14 PM
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You can file a complaint about anything. I could file a title IX complaint because there isn't a McDonalds close enough to campus. This is clearly NOT a violation of Title IX, but I could file the complaint. Title IX enforcement is a different question, and enforcement is FUBAR
/r/MensRights15/02/16 05:23 PM
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Title IX prohibits limiting access based on gender. Schools can't have disproportionately more sports slots available to men. Schools can't have discriminatory criteria that keep women out of law schools. Title IX covers stuff like this. It doesn't cover material covered. Having "Women's Studies" departments does not create exclusionary criteria limiting activities of current students. Most departments from History to Biological Engineering focus almost exclusively on learning about the achievem…
/r/MensRights15/02/16 01:11 AM
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Oppression can exist in two ways. One is where the law specifically dictates it. The second is where the law turns a blind eye to the abuses perpetrated by individuals and/or organizations. An example of this would be banks letting unmarried men open accounts, but not unmarried women. Still waiting on a link for that one. Having different gender roles IS NOT oppression. You are correct in that my statement wasn't a parody, it was minor hyperbole. But I do have good reading comprehension. You are…
/r/MensRights14/02/16 04:27 AM
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Equality isn't "Nothing bad ever happens". Equality is "Not treated differently under the law". You asked the question what counts as "the west". You cited the fact that traditionalism still exist in some western countries. I still don't see a link showing a bank policy saying single women are not allowed to open accounts. Your not claiming that women face honor killings or are legally beaten for not wearing burkas. Your not claiming that women face criminal charges for learning to read. Your cl…
/r/MensRights14/02/16 03:02 AM
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Yeah, I'm going to need more than your word for this stuff. Also, "both men and women face social pressure to conform to traditional gender roles" is NOT "The oppression of women" According to Wikipedia women in portugal recieived full legal equality with men in 1976. If you can cite a standing law in Portugal that prohibits unmarried women from opening banking accounts, I will personaly start a campaign to have it changed. If you can cite official bank policy to not allow unmarried women to ope…
/r/MensRights14/02/16 02:33 AM
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Do you even science? To do science follow some simple steps. 1) form a hypothesis (guess at the answer to a question) 2) Test the hypothesis (Experiments to gather data) 3) analize the data 4) Lather rinse repeat The researchers had a guess as to the truth of something, a hypothesis. This hypothesis was that women are discriminated against in Open source. This is a good hypothesis. It's clearly stated and well formed and highly testable. So, step 2 they TESTED. This testing was a very novel and …
/r/MensRights13/02/16 05:00 PM
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That the 95% confidence intervals overlap is meaningless. The confidence intervals don't include the calculated value, this is the important point. The finding of gender bias was statistically significant, ie it can be shown to exist at all. This doesn't even start to answer the question of if this is socially or practically significant, the finding of discrimination is so small that it's trivial. When reading this paper keep two things in mind. First and foremost, what the paper it's self actua…
/r/MensRights13/02/16 05:44 AM
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Yea, the reinterpretation of the paper by the media got shit wrong. Is that any surprise? I'm looking directly at the paper. The Big finding, the most important finding, the most significant finding is that women's submissions to GitHub are more likely to be accepted then men's. When broken down into gender identifiable as male or female or not identifiable as male or female to repos that are public and repos that are public. Women that are identifiable as women on GitHub have their submissions …
/r/MensRights12/02/16 10:56 PM
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They did consider this. It is inconsistent with their findings that women who are not gender identified on GitHub have higher acceptance rates than men that are not gender identified. This difference they attribute to "survialism". Women have thinner skins and are less competitive so the weaker female coders are much more likely to drop out. The women that survive on GitHub (not women in general) are better than average coders.
/r/MensRights12/02/16 10:32 PM
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It wouldn't have been. The statistics could have been spin doctored to show that women's contributions where accepted less often than men's. They didn't do this. There is no reason to think they would go against the science if they had found different results. Also, keep in mind that this is a science paper written by computer scientists, not a Feelz paper written by gender studies. They say what they mean and mean exactly what they say. There was a MEASURABLE bias, a statistically significant f…
/r/MensRights12/02/16 10:19 PM
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It must also be said that the victim lobby has done itself no favours. Its tone has been both strident and absolute. The notion that we should believe the victims – no matter what – not only is unhelpful, but has been thoroughly discredited by a series of widely publicized cases (e.g., Rolling Stone, in which the victim made it all up). The biggest losers in this case are the actual rape victims that won't come forward and/or won't be believed. This is a contentious claim, but a reasonable one. …
/r/MensRights12/02/16 09:49 PM
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I love how feminists make arguments that shoot down other feminist arguments. So, women are more empathetic and men more violent (violence channeled productively is called competitive). How does this affect Professional sports? Women are more empathetic, will women in as large numbers as men WANT to go out onto a gladiatorial field of combat to smite the opponent? Won't empathy for them get in the way? Won't men, being more violent, preform much better and put on a better show? Shouldn't we expe…
/r/MensRights10/02/16 11:14 PM
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Read the Christian Bible, it's no better.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 08:41 PM
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It does "take two to tango". Once the fun part is done, it is "Her body, Her choice" and should be. A man shouldn't be allowed to force or prevent a medical procedure on a woman capable of making the choice for herself. The question is what options should a man have. I personally support "voluntary Fatherhood". This is different from "Legal Paternal Surrender" in that's it's an opt-in rather than an opt-out. Men need to have equal ability to avoid the obligations of parenthood, but these rights …
/r/MensRights09/02/16 08:15 PM
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Emotional triggers are real things. The problem with triggers is when femnists say "I'm messed up in the head, so society needs to change to comfort me" That said, you are very clearly in the realm of "I'm messed up in the head", well past what random people on the internet can help with. You need professional help. The world isn't going to change to suite you and the kinds of advice we can give (Face your fears) are not applicable when your locking yourself in a closet and crying even after you…
/r/MensRights08/02/16 01:00 PM
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Evolution for species differentiation for large mammals takes hundreds of thousands of years. White Christians where doing this same BS 300 years ago. White, brown, muslim, christian, we are all humans. I'm sure there is some space where your islamaphobic bigotry is welcome, but I don't want to hear it.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 11:43 AM
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Women have More grants, More Scholarships, Dedicated groups for the promotion of Women In STEM, higher numbers in university in general. On what point for studying STEM do women have less opprutunity than men? What is your basis for this belief that women don't have equal opportunity? Different outcomes? That wasn't a version of equality that you supported.
/r/MensRights07/02/16 11:39 AM
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Given this version of equality, the one you just claimed to support, what are your thoughts on "Women in STEM". Why is this even an issue? There are not laws criminalizing women sitting in Math classes. Women are a very strong majority on University campuses, giving women even more access to study STEM than men. Women already have equal+ opportunity. Is the unequal outcome actually an issue?
/r/MensRights07/02/16 01:09 AM
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The problem with talking about feminism is that there are two radically different feminisms that are actually the same thing. There is one feminism that is "everything and anything and all things and nothing and puppydogs and unicorns for everyone!!!!" Everyone is this type of feminist, you've gotta be broken in the head to not like puppydogs and unicorns. Feminism type 2 is very thinly veiled hateful sexist bigotry. The big problem is that most feminists, the overwhelming majority of feminists …
/r/MensRights07/02/16 12:17 AM
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No two issues are entirely separate. Society is far to connected socially and economically for that to be true. Everything affects everything else. When it comes to exceptionally broad and far reaching topics like gender roles and gender relations, this touches almost everything in a profound and direct way. The gendering of refugees with "women and children only" reflects very strongly on the gender roles, gender relations and gendered expectations of the host country. The refugee crisis and it…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 11:34 PM
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Your on the list of authorized pick ups and you properly identified yourself. When they didn't apologize and leave you in peace, it was time to call the local news team. Even if you don't actually call the news, your side of the conversation would have them backing off. "Yes, channel 8 news. I'm at local school and they are terrified of someone with the wrong genitalia having contact with children. I am on the pick up list for my niece, I have properly identified myself as a person on the list, …
/r/MensRights06/02/16 11:24 PM
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Classically "liberal" is a complex topic. The history is Latin "liber" which mean (free)Man. How this concept of being 'free' translates into the modern world is a real quandary. Pesants and Serfs where not considered 'free', but their bondage was not of the whips and chains variety. It was an economic bondage. This is much like "wage slave" of today. How to best bring these people freedom from this form of oppression is a very highly debated topic. Both the "less restrictions" and the "more gov…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 09:28 PM
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This is the standard feminist women and only women matter. We have interconnected and interdependent divisions of labor that are called gender roles. We have had 60 years of a very successful campaign to loosen and even destroy the female gender roles. Women are allowed to do all sorts of "Manly" things now. That men, unlike women, are still forced into the same narrowly defined and rigidly enforced gender roles from hundreds of years ago isn't evidence of "misogyny". That men, unlike women, are…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 09:00 PM
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A point you got wrong. There are examples of men saying that woman deserved to be raped because of the slutty clothes she was wearing. It's just not white men. This is the justification of many rapes in Muslim cultures, and incidents like the Cologne attacks. Some Muslim men do assert that a woman out in public not wearing a hijab is "dressed like a slut and asking to be raped" Now, if these feminists want to get on ships and walk into the Syrian war zones to educate men on "Don't Rape", I would…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:42 PM
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Engaging with feminists one on one is pointless and fruitless. They are ideologs that have dogma, not science. No argumentation is effective at changing the mind of a dogmatist. Argumentation isn't useful, but debate is. If you have an audience to convince that you are correct and she's batshit, then it can be worth while to try and convince the audience. This is a very bad debate presentation.
/r/MensRights06/02/16 08:23 PM
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Don't feel bad. MRA have spent years trying to figure out how to do what you suggested. I had ready made rebuttals to shoot down your ideas, not because they where bad ideas, but because they have been proposed and worked through many times over again. You grasp the problems, and that's so much more than most. "Rape Affects men as much as it affects women" is a meme that MRA have tried to put out there many times over again. No one cares about male victims and as a society we try to pretend that…
/r/MensRights06/02/16 03:56 PM
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We don't own any major media outlets or even have spokesmen on speed dial of major media outlets. We don't control entire departments at Major Universities. We don't have multi million dollar multi national lobbying groups (Like NOW) to speak in proxy. The biggest and loudest statement against Roosh V is the sticky post on this forum. You suggest that we go stand with feminists in protest against Roosh V. This will only have an affect if we out ourselves as MRA, and then we can expect retaliatio…
/r/MensRights05/02/16 01:03 PM
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Roosh V is a MRA the same way Neut Gingrich is a feminist. Just because a third party put that label on him doesn't mean it's true. Roosh V wants to "legalize Rape" the same way feminists want "ALL PIV is RAPE, OK". (A self declared feminist actually wrote an article "ALL PIV is RAPE, OK") Saying that these things cause image issues is a "NO SHIT SHERLOCK" kind of statement. The question is do you have solutions? Do you know how to get the Yellow Journalism of Mass Media to stop writing the clic…
/r/MensRights05/02/16 11:19 AM
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This is nothing new. Misandrists have been mistreating MRA for a very long time now. A two term Chair for the NY branch of NOW gave a talk about the boys crisis with topics like suicide prevention and "failure to launch". This was the feminist reaction to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0 They blockaded the doors and spit on officers trying to keep the peace. Then, when that failed, they pulled the fire alarm. When Janice Fiamengo talked about boys being raped in juvenile detention…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 09:25 PM
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The feminist idea that gender is 100% socially constructed is every bit as flawed as the idea the video is pushing that it's 100% biological. That the biology that is the hardware of society is solid, but we can affect changes at the operating system and software levels without underlying hardware changes. The thought that we can do NOTHING to help rape victims forced to pay child support is irrational defeatism talking. We won't be able to change the hardware directing gynocentrisim, but we can…
/r/MensRights03/02/16 08:48 PM
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Halfway through, at the point where he says "I could stop here".....so I did. He really doesn't get the problems with feminism. Biology, super well researched. Amazingly presented. This 80/20 is something that has been pointed out many times over again. The problem is that we are not 100% biologically pre-determined and we are not 100% socially conditioned. This skew will always exist a biologically pre-determined. The question is should we push it to be even more skewed, as feminists are pushin…
/r/MensRights02/02/16 03:03 AM
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Let's pause and consider a hypothetical. This hypothetical is that she's actually telling the truth. So, we know that South Africa is a dangerous place in comparison to modern industrial nations. Why is this a story? Should Nebraska State University change policies on consent because of rape in South Africa? Should we change the law in the UK because of rape in South Africa? Does showing cultural outlyers exist in South Africa say anything about the culture in Australia? If this was being used a…
/r/MensRights02/02/16 02:42 AM
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I suspect there is more to the context. The laws around "pedophilia" are really broken in some places. See that girl over there ---> Your a pedo if you think she's hot. wait a sec. one more. almost there. Ding it's midnight, now if you don't find her hot your not really a red blooded American. There is something to be said about how this is a really arbitrary line.
/r/MensRights02/02/16 02:16 AM
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LOL yep gotta love feminism. Films from 25-30 years ago are "Modern". There are some really solid arguments that 30 years ago there where some issues with women's portrayals in movies. If you look at the two actually modern films, Frozen and Brave the gender dialog is "close to equal" and "off kilter in favor of women".
/r/MensRights02/02/16 02:11 AM
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This is just a bad idea. Everything has unintended consequences. Hell, feminism is one giant unintended consequence. All of these things, and anything thing else you think of, support feminism. They support the idea that men are evil rape monsters that are a threat to women and children. While you can win some points by agreeing that marriage is a tool of "The Patriarchy", you are ultimately doing more harm than good.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 02:06 PM
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Yea, lets get some actual responses, then completely ignore them to get the conclusions we want. I personally am much less likely to ask out someone significantly smarter than me. It's not because my masculinity is threatened. It's because my experience with smart women is that they have never been trained to treat males with even basic human dignity. I'm not going to waste my time pursuing someone that I doubt will even treat me with basic human dignity, let alone as a peer and equal.
/r/MensRights01/02/16 01:26 PM
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Overwhelmingly child abusers are female. The rates of abuse for men and women are roughly the same, but women spend much more time with children giving them much more opportunity to abuse. The reason the cite did so much to gender abusers is to maintain the threat narrative of victim feminism where women are helpless objects incapable of independent actions and men are brutal vicious predators raping and murdering their way through life. There is difficulty finding academic research on this beca…
/r/MensRights31/01/16 03:49 PM
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For the most part, It's more about venting frustrations than getting legal advice. Phrasing it as "should I sue" allows him to tell his story, vent his frustration and get positive affirmation of his feelings while maintaining the pretense of taking action "like a man" He knew before posting that the only real legal advice he could get would be "get a lawyer". The gains for him posting was a very real opportunity to tell his story and express his feelings. This is one of the biggest positives of…
/r/MensRights31/01/16 03:09 PM
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The rules norms and laws are very much a men's rights issue. That there exists pressure to marry isn't the issues as much as the lack of incentives and benefits for men to get married. Hell, with how lopsided in favor of women marriage is, some women using pressure to win this lotto is to be expected.
/r/MensRights30/01/16 02:35 AM
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In the context of fighting for a cause, it does count as fighting. It was very real physical violence that they where engaged in. Just because your side looses a fight, very badly looses a fight, doesn't mean your side didn't fight. When police turned fire hoses on civil rights protesters, or sicked dogs on them. These people where fighting. The police victimized civil rights protesters (almost exclusively males) by the thousands during marches and protests. The soldiers that died on D-Day while…
/r/MensRights30/01/16 02:21 AM
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I know that troll posts like this will get tweeted about by misandrists. Giving a rubuttle to the troll will help people linked here to "see the misogyny" what the MRHM is really like.
/r/MensRights29/01/16 09:53 PM
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I call BS. Feminine hygiene products are needed for women to participate fully in a modern western. Bleeding all over the chair at work would just be unacceptable. If the tax on these products is proving to be a hindrance to women getting them, it's reasonable to remove the taxes. Hiking up the cost to a punitive level to "stick it to" "entitled women" won't do any one any favors. Social welfare programs for men about men helping men are desperately needed. A petition to have equal funding for m…
/r/MensRights29/01/16 09:39 PM
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There already exist two or three apps that do this. for the most part they are unused and feminists get all up in arms about them. Consent isn't about having the proper paperwork filled out.....It's about mind reading and time travel!!!!
/r/MensRights29/01/16 06:25 PM
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"If your not a feminist then you're a misogynist" "Of course I'm a misogynist, I also eat babies and rape unicorns. But my personal failings are not relevant to the point I just made"
/r/MensRights29/01/16 05:35 PM
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Women did "Fight and die". Just many orders of magnitude smaller than when men "fight and die". On the "Night of Terror" 33 women where beaten while locked in prison cells. This counts as fighting. One of them even died. One woman caught pneumonia while marching, and died. Then there is that woman who got trampled by horses. All told somewhere around 10 women died for women's right to vote. Somewhere in the ball park of 100 did real fighting. Women did "fight and die" for the right to vote, tens…
/r/MensRights29/01/16 05:24 PM
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I don't have a problem with this. This isn't puppy dogs and coloring books for full grown women because people somewhere they are not are using words they don't like. That's the "safe spaces" that are problematic. In Cologne there is a very real physical threat to the physical safety of women. This isn't "but my feelz!!!!one!!!". This is a reaction to a real valid physical threat targeting women.
/r/MensRights27/01/16 03:22 AM
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You are looking for logic reason and consistency where there is none. If you look at each individual statement by feminists in isoloation from every other statement made by any feminist (even the same feminist and even statements that are part of the same sentence), then that individual statement isn't pants on head stupid. Once you start asking questions like how do all these rules interact to make a legal process for trying rape cases, no one has thought it through that far. They spouted "beli…
/r/MensRights27/01/16 03:12 AM
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Housework is work, and it's irrational to say it isn't. It's also irrational to say women do more housework because if you only count the forms of housework women do more of.....women do more of it. Yes, women spend more time than men doing traditionally female housework like cooking cleaning and child care. This is exactly what you linked says. Women spend more time cooking cleaning and child care. Once you start looking at yard work and commuting for work and repairs/maintance and other mostly…
/r/MensRights27/01/16 12:00 AM
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The problem is DEBATE. In debate the goal isn't to convince the other side, but to convince the audience. Insults like "You hate women" are used because they work to convince the audience. Ignoring them let's the damage be done. A much better response is nullification. Address the attack by addressing the fact that it's a personal attack, not a rebuttle to the argument. "Of course I hate women, I also eat babies and rape unicorns. None of this shows any flaws in my argument though."
/r/MensRights26/01/16 08:38 PM
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There are two versions of schools investigating sexual assault or rape. The first version, one I actually support, is for mitigation. When an accusation is made it may or may not be true. It is perfectly reasonably for a school to do a coursary investigation to see if it's an outright fabrication or not. If substance is found it's then perfectly reasonable to take minor administrative steps in the interum while police and courts deal with the case properly. By minor administrative steps I'm talk…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 08:28 PM
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The brand "Feminism" is a lost cause. In feminists attempt to rebrand "Feminism" has come to mean anything and everything and all things and nothing and puppy dogs and unicorns for everyone. Or anti-male hateful sexist bigotry. What needs to happen is for egalitarians to stop using the label "feminist" and start using the label "egalitarian". Women's rights are important. Minority rights are important. But so are men's rights and "white" rights. If you really want equality, rebranding feminism w…
/r/MensRights26/01/16 07:58 PM
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Yea, again that's a BS claim. Look at the studies. What they say is that housework tradionally done by women is still overwhelmingly done by women. The few studies that include traditionally male housework such as repairs, maintenance, and yard work show that housework is reasonably equally divided between men and women.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 07:49 PM
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Kinda crazy is really common. Bunny Boiling crazy is rather rare. This one's a bunny boiler.
/r/MensRights26/01/16 12:55 AM
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You know this isn't the last of this. Don't kid yourself. You found a crazy. She has already threatened you with false accusations. Expect them soon. You need to be pro-active in protecting yourself. Go down to the court house and get a TPO. Set up a "nanny cam" or three to record when she violates the TPO. This TPO should keep her out of your home and help you defend against the false accusations she will likely make. Situations like this where an abusive EX won't leave you alone are the situat…
/r/MensRights25/01/16 09:40 PM
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There is case law in other states. Even with signed documents specifying that your ARE NOT the father, only a sperm doner, you are still obligated to pay child support. Even if the child is the product of you boing raped by a woman, you still have to pay child support (and It's not the "kinda sorta mabey rape" that feminists freak about but actual felon in prison for the crime they commited against you) Legal paternal surrender is such a big issue because there are no "outs" for men, even being …
/r/MensRights25/01/16 03:16 AM
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Try posing in a feminist sub if you want a feminist response (and watch how blindingly fast you get banned) As an MRA, this is my response. If further sexual violence is to be prevented, the solution is to properly integrate the immigrants into German society. Alcohol is part of German society, the immigrants need to learn to drink responsibly. Women walking around wearing next to nothing is part of German society, the immigrants need to learn to treat these people as Germans would. The big prob…
/r/MensRights24/01/16 02:19 AM
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Yea, all the counters to his arugment can be done with one really simply sentence. Feminism is not women.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 07:05 PM
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Do a gender swap, and see how it sounds "Women need to have their feelings coddled and protected. They see what they want to see. Men, however, can see past the emotions into rationality." Does that sound sexist to you? It sounds sexist to me.
/r/MensRights23/01/16 06:52 PM
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Cries of "misogynist" are standard ad-homin attacks. The best solution isn't to try and defend or defeat the attack, but nullify it. Expose the logical fallacy and move one. "You don't think the wage gap is real? Your just a misogynist that hates women" "You forgot that I eat babies and rape unicorns, but my personal flaws don't change the facts showing the wage gap is a myth"
/r/MensRights23/01/16 03:17 AM
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It doesn't need to be a zero sum game, but feminists have turned it into one. Every job in STEM that a woman takes is a job in a care field that isn't getting filed and a man that didn't get the job in STEM. If feminists where advocating for men in child care to the same or greater extent than they are advocating women in STEM, This isn't a zero sum game. She left an opening that he could fill. This isn't what's happening. Feminism has demonized male sexuality to such a degree that any man spend…
/r/MensRights23/01/16 12:31 AM
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I don't see options on that cite for searching only novels or for age. How do I replicate your results?
/r/MensRights23/01/16 12:22 AM
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Love the mental gymnastics needed to try and make this a MRA vs Feminist story. The time line is just great. In 2012 feminists engaged in domestic terrorism. In 2013 MRA put up some posters. In 2014 there was more domestic terrorism by feminists. And all this to set up how "scuffles between MRA and Feminists are like a tradition". Yea, this isn't a story about how domestic terrorist are trying to shut down an equality movement....really it's not.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 08:51 PM
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Crazy is just crazy. I don't see where this is feminism or 4chan. It's just crazy. We need to be careful to not strawman feminism. Crazy does exist outside of feminism and we need to make sure that feminist insanity is actually feminist. That the manufacturer under estimated the popularity of Rey and this line keeps selling out is a much simpler and more feasible explanation than some anti-woman conspiracy. Hasburo is a for profit corporation. They don't give a damn about gender issues, the only…
/r/MensRights22/01/16 05:50 PM
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My thought is follow the letter, ignore the intent. Just generate lots and lots of paperwork for the police till they get sick of it and recind the order. I mean I intend to have sex with every person male and female in the entire country every day. My intentions and my actions don't line up, and I need consent from the people I do have sex with.....but that doesn't change my intent to have an undoable amount of sex. Even if he just fills out the paperwork for 50 or 100 women who's name he pulls…
/r/MensRights22/01/16 05:41 PM
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It's very very wrong. At the most basic level there are two glaring flaws. First is the placement of "False Accusation" icons. The false accusations are not a subset of unreported rapes as is indicated by their placement. They are a subset of reported rapes, Faced Trial and Jailed subsets. Then the "false accusation" rate is highly disputed. It is somewhere in the range of 8% to 60%. Even taking the lowest number, there should be 8 black icons One in the Jailed subset, two in the faced trial sub…
/r/MensRights22/01/16 05:08 PM
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The truth of the MHRM that Cassey discovered was that we are real people with legitimate concerns about real human rights abuses, not a pack of raving woman haters that think all women need to be chained barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen. Also, I forget that not everywhere is as exceptionally and excessively corrupt as the US. In the US research in social sciences is all about the very wealthy and powerful purchasing the "Truth" that they want.
/r/MensRights22/01/16 02:22 PM
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Cassey Jay's "The Red Pill" movie is a great example of how "research" actually works in the social sciences. She started with an idea and a premise. This idea and premise lined up with a bunch of hateful sexist bigoted ideologues with deep pockets. Once she started researching and discovered the truth of the MHRM, then the funding got cut off because she was no longer telling the story the ideologues wanted told. By and large this is how research in social sciences is done. The "truth" is prede…
/r/MensRights22/01/16 05:18 AM
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There are not many incentives to divorce. While men tend to get murdered in divorce settlements, women are generally worse off after divorce as well. (That 1,200 that was paying the rent as a couple is now split between a 900 payment for her place and 300 for his room in a rat hole. That 900/month apartment just isn't as nice as a 1,200/month one) This is a minor dis-incentive against divorce. If getting married was an arduous process that required lots of paperwork and waiting periods and all t…
/r/MensRights21/01/16 09:27 PM
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Not believable. That she reported to Redit not the police is the first big red flag. With her claims this case would be really easy to prove. She was below the drinking age, so any booze would render her incapable of legally signing legal documents. If they really did ply her with alcohol and drugs, then there will be evidence of this. Then this isn't he said/she said. It's on video. The police could get the unedited video and review it. There is no need for guesswork. Hard evidence exists. Her …
/r/MensRights21/01/16 11:55 AM
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They always ask the wrong question on this. Why the focus on divorce? Divorce should be trivially easy to obtain, and trivially easy to obtain unilaterally. The hard part shouldn't be ending a failed marriage, but getting one started in the first place. We shouldn't have mandated mediations and waiting periods for divorce. We should have them for marriage. If the requirements for marriage included spending at least 1 full year living together as an engaged couple and 100 hours of couples thearap…
/r/MensRights21/01/16 11:43 AM
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This is a Catch 22 situation. The solution is to get more men into classrooms. Men in classrooms are viewed as pedophiles. I can't in good faith recomend men take actions that will unjustly get them labeled pedophiles.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 11:57 PM
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Well damn. If you don't like someone's words, physical violence is the answer!!! everydayfeminism.com really jumped the shark on this one.
/r/MensRights20/01/16 01:19 PM
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Standard one sidedness. I have little doubt that female immigrant farmers get sexually harassed at work. But there is no comparison made. Yes, she got her ass grabbed, but her brother was beaten with a whip in the same field. Neither should be happening, but if given the choice between being fondled or being beaten, I choose fondling. I expect that most people would. Not a new rape hysteria, just more of the old women don't have it perfect (and never mind how similar men are treated).
/r/MensRights19/01/16 09:31 PM
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It's half true. The 7 things women can do really are 7 things people in general can do. It's some fairly sound advice even if loaded with buzz words. Gender bias and discrimination aren’t always overt. They’re hidden in social norms, subtle stereotypes This is the kernel of truth. There does exist some degree of bias, and that bias isn't easy to see. There are two unasked questions that really make the piece untenable. First and foremost is the question "Is that bias bad?". I don't accept the un…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 09:21 PM
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I love the comments. "Trickle down social justice". That's a phrase I will be using in the future.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 09:05 PM
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The concept of "The Pink Tax" amuses me. It's masculinity that is "fragile", it should be the "Manly" products that can charge a premium to protect the o so fragile masculinity. But it's the pink products that can make sales with a color mark up. It's the products that present the idea of feminine and protect one's self image as feminine that have the mark up. Masculinity isn't the fragile one, it's femininity.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 08:58 PM
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Feminists can't actually win. It is creating problems much faster than it solves problems. As feminism "wins" there are even more problems for feminism to "solve". The end result is a movement with no end.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 08:27 PM
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The problem with this is that racism and sexism are real things. This bias makes it very difficult to actually get the best candidate if this bias isn't accounted for. The problem that companies run into is that they loose sight of the fact that "diversity policies" need to correct for this unconscious bias, and become all about hiring enough people with correct skin color or genitalia.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 07:58 PM
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unless they, you know, actually fail to communicate their desire to not engage in sex. This is exactly what "Miscommunication rape" is. Failure to communicate properly. Dressing provocatively communicates a desire to engage in sex. If the pursued doesn't actually wish to engage in sex, and they don't communicate that properly or reasonably, there is a miscommunication. A miscommunication that results in non-consenting sex is "miscommunication rape". This wouldn't legally be "rape" under "no mean…
/r/MensRights18/01/16 05:49 PM
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In the same news phrased differently.... "Research" Proves Women are Lazier than men 6 days a week. Yea, cause that would fly as a headline.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 01:24 PM
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Standard one sided BS. Diversity isn't 50/50. A company can't be 50% white AND 50% black and 50% latino and 50% oriental and 50% araibe. Diversity, real diversity is proportional diversity. The US is 74% WHITE. In a proportionally diverse company 74% of the employees would be white. Apple is only 54% white. This is complicated by international holding and facilities, but just at face value it looks like apple is discriminating against WHITES!!! With the numbers presented for diversity at Apple w…
/r/MensRights18/01/16 01:21 PM
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As countries become industrialized and modernized a redistribution of work between gender roles becomes needed. In western countries this need was felt 100 years ago or more and spawned feminism that attempted to correct this gender role imbalance, but only for women. These western countries now need a Men's Movement to correct gender role imbalances for men. In countries that haven't been over run with feminism and are becoming industrial and modern, the solution to the gender role imbalances i…
/r/MensRights18/01/16 12:59 PM
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This is semantic side stepping to make little issues seem like big issues. All the time in every sector of society people say "A person is asking for it by how they where dressed" (though usually in different words). No one bats an eye when advice like "Dress well for that interview" is given. No one bats an eye when "Dressed like that, did you really expect to get the job"? If the "how she was dressed" was 1800's formal wear and the "she was asking for it" was getting sand in all sorts of incon…
/r/MensRights18/01/16 12:25 PM
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There is a stronger connection between gender and police violence than between race and police violence. This doesn't mean that police violence doesn't have racial aspects. We need to no deny or diminish the racial aspects of police violence, we need to make the gender aspect clear.
/r/MensRights17/01/16 09:54 PM
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I suspect false flagging. We are not the only people subject to false flag propaganda BS. Taking direct action isn't something from the feminist play book. Cry bullies don't do the violence themselves. They incite others to do the violence on their behalf. This wasn't a cry for big brother government to criminalize maleness. This was actual direct violence.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 10:17 PM
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False accusation is a crime. Rape is a crime. The anonymity of an individual accused of a crime should be preserved to prevent trial in the court of public opinion. This is true for rape accusations and accusations of false allegations.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 03:34 AM
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No one has big issues with "female empowerment" (except for where it crosses over into issues that we do have problems with) What anti-feminists oppose is the dogmatic religious doctrine of "The Patriarchy". If denoucing hateful sexist bigotry of this doctrine of "Blame the Patriarchy" is driving women away, then these are women I really didn't want to associate with anyways. Sexists and bigots are not fun people to be around.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 03:21 AM
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Not a great argument all on it's own. It would be a great argument to make in response to a feminist claim that some laws need to be gendered to reflect biological differences. "Women should get 6 extra sick days a year to deal with periods, because biological differences" "Sounds great, men should get 6 extra sick days a year to deal with the flu. OR...we could just accept that both men and women need roughly equal numbers of sick days even if for different reasons. You know that entire gender …
/r/MensRights15/01/16 03:12 AM
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There are two sexes and two genders. The variations of sex chromosomes other than XY and XX are aberrations and mutations that still produce males or females. The real question is if sex runs deeper than the question of genitalia being an inny or an outy. If there really are deeper and more substantial differences it's possible for one to have a "female brain" in a male body. We don't have the ability to turn a female brain into a male brain, but we can turn a male body into a female one. This i…
/r/MensRights14/01/16 11:46 AM
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Apex Fallacy. The people at the very very very top are men, almost exclusivly men. This doesn't make men priviliged. This doesn't make men wealthy. Arguing that taking from the top 1% of the top 1% and redistributing that wealth is taking from men in general is the exact same argument that because that top 1% of the top 1% is men, men in general are privileged. In short....don't be a feminist.
/r/MensRights14/01/16 01:21 AM
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This at worst gets a rating of "Silly". There is none of the typical man bashing. She isn't saying women should get higher levels of "Basic Income" because Vagina. All she says is some trite one liners about how great women are. This deserves an eye roll and a "sure thing sweetcakes"
/r/MensRights13/01/16 10:23 PM
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According to that same Wiki page Alimony was first established in law 3,750 years ago in the code of Hammurabi. This obligation for Men to support women has existed for a VERY long time. How this interacts with marriage is a messy topic, but I didn't talk about divorce. I talked about obligations. This obligation exists in marriage (but is almost never an issue here) in seperations in abandonments and in divorces. Trading the old bag in for a younger model does not require divorce.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 10:12 PM
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It's hard to understand because the world we live in is so very different than the world that was written for. A husbands income WAS NOT his income, it was the family income. The husbands labor financed not the husband, but the household. If allowed to keep a larger share of the household income for himself than he would have gotten as a married man, than this would in deed be profits. If this profit was the result of his maritial misconduct then that's setting up a moral dilemma where he would …
/r/MensRights13/01/16 10:03 PM
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It's because of tradition. Hundreds of years ago There where very real restrictions on what types of work women where allowed to do. A woman's Job was to maintain the home and raise the children for her husband. It was rare, but it did happen, that a man would want to trade in his old wife for a younger model. Since a middle aged woman didn't have marketable sexuality a severance/retirement package was in order. This retirement package was called alimony. This set up made sense hundreds of years…
/r/MensRights13/01/16 02:36 PM
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That study found 41% of accusations are false, not that 41% of men will be the victims of false accusation. Given that the rate of rape accusations is somewhere on the order of 1 in 1,000, half of them are false accusations, odds are somewhere in the ball park of 1 in 2,000 of being the victim of false accusations. Of these 1 in 2,000 men falsely accused, most accusations don't actually go anywhere, only about 1 in 10. Overall the odds of being really vicimized by a false accusation are somewher…
/r/MensRights13/01/16 12:39 PM
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Can we hijack that hashtag for some activism? Start posting "DeadBeats" that are underage victims of rape ordered to pay child support out of their allowances?
/r/MensRights13/01/16 11:26 AM
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Never attribute to malice what is adequately explained by ignorance. There is no "End Game", it's just a bunch of chicken littles running around screaming that the sky is falling. Once they are convinced that "campus rape culture" isn't really a thing, they will find some other half truth to scream about how it's causing the sky to fall.
/r/MensRights13/01/16 01:06 AM
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Feminism isn't "The Enemy". Feminism is the current dominant social narrative on gender roles and gender relations in the western world. If we are to get men's issues addressed, this narrative and by extention the ideology it's based upon need to be disrupted. If this disruption changes the narrative to one that's egalitarian, but maintains the label of feminism, few would take issue with that (though this is a very remote possibility) Feminism isn't the enemy. The social narrative crafted by fe…
/r/MensRights11/01/16 12:39 AM
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MRA follow logic with this as with all thing. This means waiting for the facts to come in before coming to conclusions and advocating for changes. The Feminists are Advocating for changes, based on this advocacy they are coming to conclusions about the events, then are fabricating "facts" to support these conclusions. Something did happen in Cologne, but I expect that it has a lot more to do with cross-cultural miscommunications that "violence against women"
/r/MensRights10/01/16 05:53 PM
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Even assuming that the story is true, the kinds of activism it will spawn will be asinine. Because a woman in South Africa knowingly took huge risks with her safety young men in the Canada need to be ashamed of their sexuality. Because rape is a real risk for overly promiscuous women in South Africa, Boys in the UK need mandatory consent classes.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 01:31 PM
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Much like arguing with feminists, the view I described is never the explicit position taken. It is an overiding assumption needed to make theory work. Feminists never explicitly argue that women are little more than large versions of small children. This view is needed for feminist theory on "Rape Culture" to work.
/r/MensRights10/01/16 12:14 AM
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Not a false dilemma. The possibility your arguing is one of the ones covered. Your not arguing that I left out "Self Actualization" and that's the real motivator behind rapes. If you want to argue "Divine Inspiration" is the real motivator behind rapes, then I did present a false dilemma. Your not arguing this. You are arguing that I discounted one of the presented possibilities when I shouldn't have. You may have difficulty getting casual sex, but your not plotting to rape either.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 08:13 PM
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Most traditionalist views and arguments don't consider women inferior. Some do. These are problematic when combined with holding women accountable. One such example is sex. A reasonably common traditional view of sex is that it's something that men do to women. To call a woman a slut because several different men decided for her that sex was appropriate creates an inconsistency. (If you can't see how traditionalists sometimes argue this you can really understand how feminists feel when we talk a…
/r/MensRights09/01/16 07:55 PM
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LOL almost all of the points I make are about consistency. Celebrating masculinity and femininity can be a consistent position to take. The big point I try to make is that you can't be non-gendered with gendered language like "The Patriarchy" and "Male Privilege" I didn't see any of the "Women are inferior" combined with "women are accountable" inconsistencies common to more traditional views.
/r/MensRights09/01/16 06:51 PM
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You put quotes around that. Is it a quote from something? if so, what's the source. (I will want to cite it in the future)
/r/MensRights09/01/16 04:42 PM
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This is exactly what "Rape Hysteria" is. In all of the shrieking about this rape gang of thousands of men, it seems lost that there where only TWO ACCUSATIONS of rape. The "Running the gauntlet of sexual assaults" that women had to go though was probably much more along the lines of privileged white upper class women had to deal with the fumbling and awkward but harmless advances of evil brown skinned lower class men with a cultural barrier to overcome. I suspect that like the 10 hours of walkin…
/r/MensRights09/01/16 08:06 AM
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Everyone is potentially evil and what counts as evil is very much socially constructed. In 100 years people may look back on us and see "the evil" of eating the chared dead flesh of animals. That's just barbarism. Or it may be we discover wearing cotton undergarments reduce life expectancy, and in 150 years people will just be baffeled as to how we could be so evil as to force children to wear them. People, all people, are basically good people. What being a good person means is different in dif…
/r/MensRights09/01/16 03:13 AM
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Please stop linking this. This is not feminism. This is one nutjob screaming into the wind. The post you linked is the one and only example I know of where a feminist went so far radically feminist that she got kicked out of feminism. Even the feminists that we regularly cite as being sexist bigots said this article went too far and wasn't feminism. This wasn't a "No True Scottsman" fallacy either. Critisizm of this post came from every subset of feminism. Yes, this blog exists and is sexist big…
/r/MensRights08/01/16 12:40 PM
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Just marry a powerful independent woman like Hillary, then it doesn't count as rape.....Just ask Hillary.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 11:53 AM
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So.... Because Syrian Refugees don't know social and cultural norms of Germany, Men in the US should have our rights infringed upon. That sounds like feminist logic to me.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 11:51 AM
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The idea that people from a different culture and different society need to be taught the social and cultural norms for a given place is a no brainer. What I can't support is that the one and only norm that needs to be taught is what counts as "Rape". What I can't support is the idea that people whom grew up in a culture need to be taught these norms in a classroom setting. What I can't support is the actual training that these "anti-rape" classes do.
/r/MensRights08/01/16 11:37 AM
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LOL. It would be rather simple for any Clinton supporters to show this isn't sexism. If Clinton can be cited as saying "I think men in general are better (Insert something good like Engineer)." Then this isn't sexism. Asserting that there exist gender differences isn't sexism. If she can be cited as asserting ways men are better than women, she is asserting gender differences exist not the sexism of female superiority. Now, does anyone think these quotes actually exist?
/r/MensRights08/01/16 11:15 AM
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Trying to describe this behavior as "Toxic Femininity" has the same faults and issues as describing behaviors as "Toxic Masculinity". Neither of the terms should be used because they edge too closely with labeling femininity or masculinity as toxic. We have seen how easy it is to fall off this cliff when talking about "Toxic Masculinity" and it's no different when talking of "Toxic Femininity".
/r/MensRights07/01/16 06:24 PM
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With the ease of getting casual sex and the high availability of prostitutes, sex and only sex is not a reasonable motivation. There are much easier faster and safer ways to get sex. There isn't money involved. Of the three big motivators, sex money and power, we are left with power. It takes a very small intuitive leap to see how this is the primary motivator in the tiny minority of cases we are talking about. I don't have a good source for this since rapists are far from the most enlightened a…
/r/MensRights06/01/16 08:54 PM
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Ah, Yes, The standard argument against MRA.....Because this website that is explicitly NOT MRA said some stupid shit, MRA are stupid. Gotta love media logic.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 01:38 PM
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I fully support MGTOW. If your way includes nail polish, have at it. I won't be joining, my way isn't your way. Woodworking and stone carving are really hard on my hands and nail polish just wouldn't hold up.
/r/MensRights05/01/16 12:23 PM
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The most effective lies are the ones based upon a kernal of truth. The kernal of truth in the lie "All Rape is Exclusively about power" is that "A tiny minority of rapes are mostly about power" (but these are the scary ones). All rapes do have a sexual element as well, the act of rape is the act of sex. The idea that rape is about power didn't come from no where. The tiny minority of cases at the intersection of "Stranger Danger" and physical violence are more about power than sex. This is the k…
/r/MensRights05/01/16 09:28 AM
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The point of a marriage contract is to punish men if they decide to leave. This made sense in the 1700's when the only people that actually got marriage contracts where the exceptionally wealthy. In these circles divorce was exceptionally uncommon and the women didn't work so the husband walking out was a one way ticket to destitution. In the 1700's for upper class whites, it was the man whom was incentivised to leave and "find a younger model", so marriage contracts where intended to minimize t…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 11:39 AM
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One can make sure this doesn't happen. Take that time off for paternity leave, even if the company doesn't offer it. Take your vacations, even if the company doesn't offer vacation time. Find a low pay but personally fulfilling job, and do that. Basically if you as a man do all the things women are already doing that result in lower pay....you can count on lower pay.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 11:34 AM
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Rape is not a federal offense, so the FBI wouldn't be looking into it. It would be local police. Other than that, yours is a best case senerio. Much more likely is a woman forced a man to have sex, and when he reports it, he gets laughed out of the station because "That wasn't rape, that's called getting lucky"
/r/MensRights04/01/16 11:06 AM
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There is great value in showing the phenomenon of false rape accusations is far more prevalent than advertised. There is great value in finding predectors for which cases are false accusations. There is great value in identifying trends in false accusations. There is great value in finding commonalities in false accusations. The list does none of these. This is not a 'high road' argument. The logical fallacy of appeal to emotion, the affect of this list, is not an effective tool for the MRHM and…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 10:55 AM
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The argument that "jumped out of the bushes with a tazor" style attacks are about power has some merit. It can be made solid with very little work. It is not some infallible divine truth. There are other positions that also have merit. You are trying to argue that some other position is better....great....you win. However, that's beside the point. The point is that in the tiny minority of cases that are the intersection of "Stranger Danger" and actual use of physical violence, there exists a cas…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 10:48 AM
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There exist many current definitions with each jurisdiction making their own definition. These definitions vary between "A man forcing carnal knowledge upon a woman" (does this need an explination for how it excludes female rapists and male victims?) and "Penetrated by force" (this excludes "forced to penetrate", the action taken when women rape men).
/r/MensRights04/01/16 10:40 AM
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Not every broadening of the definition of rape is a bad thing. This broadening would mostly be the inclusion of victims and perps that in the venacular would already be called rapists. Mainly this would expand the definition to include female rapists and their victims.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 04:31 AM
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Anecdotal evidence only disproves the claim of NEVER. That isn't a claim that is made any more. Disproving it provides no value. Looking at cases to find trends or commonalities or predictors is worth while. Looking at statistics to get rates is worth while. List like the one linked only show that false accusations do happen, not the rates, not trends, not predictive traits. The list linked disproves the claim of NEVER, a claim that isn't made any more. There are many ways to parse and examine t…
/r/MensRights04/01/16 02:56 AM
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Your missing the point. 30 out of 170k is .000175%. This is all that the list shows. This is proof that the false reporting for rape and sexual assault is at least one ten-thousandth of a percent. Lots of evidence exists that the rate is higher, even the feminists put the number at 2%. This list of anecdotes only disproves the claim of NEVER, a claim that even feminists have stopped making.
/r/MensRights04/01/16 12:10 AM
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This is what is called anecdotal evidence. There are like 30 examples in the list. There are roughly 170,000 rapes in the US every year. After UVA and Duke Lacrosse and "The Hunting Ground". No one denies that false accusations do happen, only that they are very rare. What this list lends credance to is that only 0.000175% of rape claims are false accusations.
/r/MensRights03/01/16 03:54 PM
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The feminist narrative is BS. There is an element of truth that makes the lie believable. Identifying that element of truth lets us expose the concept as a lie.
/r/MensRights03/01/16 03:39 PM
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Scribble some shit on the back of a napkin, then throw it away. That's about how much a prenup will protect you. I mean if your worried about the cost of a prenup, then you don't have enough wealth to really worry about a prenup nor do you have enough wealth to spends the tens of thousands of dollars on legal fees needed to enforce the prenup when the divorce happens. The single best thing is DON"T GET MARRIED. Marriage is a raw deal for men, don't do it. It's B A D. If you are going to go thoug…
/r/MensRights03/01/16 03:21 AM
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When limiting "Rape" to perps jumping out of the bushes with a tazor style attacks, there is a strong case that it's about power. These people feel they don't have any power in the sexual arena so use physical power to supplement their lack of sexual power. This isn't a perfect argument, but it is a solid one. Once we start talking about the overwhelming majority of "Rapes" that are "miscommunication rapes", then these have nothing to do with power and everything to do with sex. When debunking f…
/r/MensRights03/01/16 12:05 AM
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Feminists hate the mutual rape questions because it puts the lie to their version of consent. It reveals the underlying assumption of feminism that women are objects and men are agents.
/r/MensRights02/01/16 07:54 PM
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It isn't meant to make sense. It's meant to be an unsolvable problem that keeps men guessing as to where the limits are. It's meant to blur the lines of consent so that any claim of rape (made by a woman) is a valid claim. It's questionable if even consent forms filled out in triplicate and notarized count as "consent". The only way to win this game of guess where the boundries are is to not play. Give women exactly what feminists are asking for, the cold shoulder. Go your own way, do what makes…
/r/MensRights02/01/16 02:42 AM
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One solid way to get the fathers more involved is to do more to take the mothers out of the picture. Do you have programs to get the mothers employed full time to get them out of the house and out of the picture so that there is space for the fathers to be fathers? Do you have programs that will remove the mother from the home for education and other activities that will make space for the fathers to be parents? There are many programs for women, but do you have any with a stated explicit intent…
/r/MensRights01/01/16 07:33 PM
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So the "Arrest the Man" laws under the Duluth Model of Domestic Violence wouldn't have a FTM transgender arrested for being male? So women at a park won't call the police over someone presenting as male walking in the park the kids use, regardless of that person's actual genitalia? You really don't grasp the issues if you think only people biologically born male face Men's Rights Issues.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 08:23 AM
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Not an immediate problem, but there is no need to let the problem become a catastrophic immediate problem before addressing it. Preventing a problem of in-breeding of a human population is a valid reason to have the law.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 08:18 AM
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Yep, feminism. I am going to give her +10 internet points because she isn't silencing dissent and hiding in a hug box. She is actively engaged with people that disagree, even if she is only spoutting gibberish back. This is a huge step forward from most feminists.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 08:14 AM
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Several of these are problematic. Simply put if we are to talk of gender inequality then we need a comparison between how many men vs how many women. 60% of male infants have their genitals mutilated in the US. That's horrifying. What it doesn't show is gender inequality. How many female infants have their genitals mutilated in the US? 21% of male abuse victims that called the police for help where arrested. That is Horrifying. It doesn't show gender inequality. How many women where arrested for…
/r/MensRights01/01/16 07:22 AM
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MGTOW. I'm going to be the best me I can be. Individually this does nothing, but collectively this path is getting noticed with labels like "Herbivore men" and "The Sexudous"
/r/MensRights01/01/16 07:12 AM
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It doesn't sound like you've got an issue with caps. You see my reasoning as valid. The issue is the number. I agree that it seems really low. On that I'm willing to assume people smarter than men set the number there for reasons I don't grasp, but are valid. This is probably giving more credit than is due, but it keeps me sane.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 07:00 AM
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Men's Rights Issues are Men's Rights Issues regardless of skin color or body status. Presenting as male will bring a whole host of problems from being labeled a pervert for being sexual to being more often targeted for violence. Presenting as male has nothing to do with skin color or genitalia.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 05:05 AM
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On part 1. Genetic diversity of the human species is a real consideration. When being able to pick and choose half the genetics your child will have like going to the supermarket, a tiny minority of male genetics will get selected. Placing a limit on high demand sperm is a reasonable restriction to encourage genetic diversity. Limiting sexual activity is a can of worms best not opened, but limiting activities of sperm banks is a different issue. (Note: these same restrictions should apply to wom…
/r/MensRights01/01/16 04:58 AM
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Because traditional bullies use their own fists to attack and terrorize people weaker than they are. Cry-Bullies use white knights and proxy violence to enact the violence. Traditional bullies owned their shit and did their own dirty work. Cry-bullies don't take ownership of their bullying. This is an important distinction.
/r/MensRights01/01/16 04:45 AM
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Try presenting a different narrative. Gender roles are not an axis of oppression. Gender roles are interconnected interdependent divisions of labor that place obligations on both men and women and grant the rights needed to fulfill these obligations. This gives an explanation for gender roles that is neither "The Patriarchy" or some form of divine right.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 06:43 PM
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Same standard Feminism. Looking at only the very very top and nothing else. Just look at the section on law. 2/3 of people training in law are women but only 1 of 12 of the supreme court are women. This isn't a complex interplay of gender roles for both men and women, it is "The Glass Ceiling" keeping women down.
/r/MensRights31/12/15 02:04 AM
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You put yourself in this situation. You spent 8 years taking care of a grown up child. This child isn't going to magically grow up now that she has competition for your paternal attention. Now you have 2 children to take care of, a grown up one and a small one. Just remember your wife isn't a full person, she is a child and needs to be treated as such. You haven't expected her to cook or clean. 12 year olds have more responsibilities than your wife. When considering the kinds of obligations to p…
/r/MensRights30/12/15 07:11 AM
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The issue is that this is an either/or question. Either there ARE innate gender differences justifying different treatment or there are not. If there are no innate gender differences than we should see the same number of men and women in both STEM and stay at home parents. We should see the same number of men and women in both CEO positions and on death row. If there are innate gender differences, than we will see differences all over the board from suicide to custody to wages to Senators. What …
/r/MensRights29/12/15 06:28 AM
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Women are hugely favored in custody law. Women often ignore custody law with no consequences. One of the few times that a woman is actually pursued for custody violations is so that her son's genitals can be mutilated. One of the few times it's not "Mommy knows best" is when it's a question of mutilating male genitalia. I don't need to take a side to say that's just fucked.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 06:51 PM
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TL;DR, Consent only counts if the person has enough agency to give consent. Women being helpless objects acted upon by "The Patriarchy" lack this agency. Therefor no sex is consensual and all hetero sex is rape.
/r/MensRights28/12/15 02:30 AM
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She said "My cult won't let me date non-cult members. Please join my cult so we can continue to date". Would you still want to date her if that cult was ritualistically sacrificing babies to The Blood God? Would you still want to date her if that cult was marching in the streets screaming about how racial group "P" where inferior and needed to be eliminated? Would you trust her to actually stop believing that BS even if she quit the cult to date you? The only real difference between her cult and…
/r/MensRights27/12/15 10:10 PM
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That is a problem. Politicos ARE taking up the issue of declining marriage rates. This IS something Politicos are trying to do something about. The problem is that the politicos doing this are not liberal, they are not conservative, they are the religious extremists. The issue isn't getting addressed as a men's rights issue as it needs to be. The issue is getting addressed as a moral failing of men and a lack of dedication to a magical sky daddy. The issue IS getting taken up. It's just getting …
/r/MensRights27/12/15 08:29 AM
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The best advice is to just find a different job. Legal maneuvering only really works in MEGA corps. When there are 3 or more departments that are not connected to play off of each other. When Legal doesn't share Resources with HR whom doesn't share Resources with Shop....Then you can play the legal games. In a small shop where "HR" is the shop supervisor's secretary, they will just close ranks and lie. Highly skilled hard to replace workers also have leverage in these situations, but 9/hour, doe…
/r/MensRights25/12/15 09:51 PM
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There are two major issues with the image. First, the top image. Thanks to tech, the need for people jumping out of airplanes and out of boats under fire is greatly diminished. A dozen people controlling squadrons of unmanned drones can wield more fire power than existed on both side of D-Day. Why send tens of thousands of young men to die when we can rain death from above? Second, the bottom image. It's not young MEN crying for safe spaces. It's young women. Young women have always been shelter…
/r/MensRights25/12/15 09:39 PM
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Let me solve the puzzle of MRA vs Feminists for you. It's science vs religion. All the religious nutter are screaming that their magical sky daddy will make everything all puppy dogs and unicorns as soon as every one agrees to worship their version of the magical sky daddy. Never mind that the Jihadists want to kill all the infidels. Never mind Christian theocracy caused the Dark Ages. It will all be puppy dogs and unicorns as soon as people stop disagreeing with me. Feminists have a religious b…
/r/MensRights25/12/15 07:54 AM
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Lets just look at the first few so you can see what they are really saying. Article I. Infantalizing and denying the agency of women doesn't violate this. It doesn't place a restriction on women. Denying the agency of women places restrictions on men whom must act as if the women are children. A woman is allowed to have sex with a man, his consent is assumed. A man is not allowed to have sex with a woman because she is incapable of consent. This is not a restriction on women. It's a restriction …
/r/MensRights25/12/15 07:37 AM
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One could use your description of your girl friend and her "arguments" in a text book for what emotionally abusive girlfriends look like. From your description, this is what domestic abuse looks like. End the relationship. End it yesterday. Change your locks. If she contacts you, apply for a restraining order. The TPO may look like over kill. It is not. It will take the "Protect the Wymonz" weight from behind any allegations she may make in retribution for being dumped.
/r/MensRights25/12/15 02:39 AM
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Debating feminists has been likened to sword fighting a fart. While the arguments stink, there is nothing of substance to them to attack. Any attempt to debate feminists will result in them banning you or them running away.
/r/MensRights24/12/15 05:12 AM
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That women do more shopping just means more research goes into how to short circuit the logic part of the brain of female shoppers with clever marking ploys. That there is information on how to avoid this logic failure and how to avoid emotional shopping is reasonable valid and useful information.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 11:52 PM
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I must call BS. An individual woman is bad at math does nothing to show WOMEN are bad at math. I know a great many men that would say stuff like this. You wouldn't say that Trump spouting this stupidity shows that MEN are stupid or racist. Clinton is bad at math, but that is not a reflection on women in general.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 03:52 PM
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Good for them. The "Pink Tax" is a real thing. It's one of the few issues feminism has actually correctly identified (that there is a pink tax, not the causes). Doing more to inform consumers about their options is a good thing. The advice of think about purchases logically, not emotionally, is sound advice. The advice of look at more than just the pink sections of the store is solid advice. While the article had lots of hyperbolic references to the mythical wage gap, the actual advice given is …
/r/MensRights23/12/15 03:43 PM
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The entirety of feminism is one giant "No True Scotsman" fallacy. No feminist is a "real" feminist. There are a great many people that self identify as feminist with out even knowing about let alone buying into the actual dogma and doctrines of feminism. It doesn't take a very deep look at feminism to see the rot, but one must look deeper than "Feminism is for equality". A great many people stop looking at this point, and just assume anti-feminism is anti-equality and anti-woman. Choosing to ign…
/r/MensRights23/12/15 04:50 AM
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What an amazing Texas Sharpshooter. A script and character where done with no concern about femnism, but since a feminist likes the character its feminism. Rey wasn't made to be a female character because it would be empowering to women, but because it would help the marketing department sell Rey action figures and light sabers to girls.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 12:29 AM
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I disagree, a great many people here at /r/MensRights are former type 1 feminists that have wanted equality all along and became MRAs once we started digging deeper and realized the reality of feminism. Very few feminists are actually type 2 feminists. Very few people have looked deeper than the "we support equality" statements made by feminism. Most feminists are type 1 feminists, and just have no clue how wrong the assumptions are or how to properly advocate for equality.
/r/MensRights23/12/15 12:02 AM
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This isn't going to end well. I give it less than a year before we start seeing lawsuits that are basically women saying "I went into the MEN'S locker room, and there was a naked dude in the shower. I want to press charges for indecent exposure!!!"
/r/MensRights22/12/15 03:10 PM
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It did in the 50's, and the SJW crowd refuses to recognize the changes that have taken place since then.
/r/MensRights22/12/15 03:08 PM
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So the image that they use to show how MRA are cave dwelling idiots is a man that takes issues with gender stereotypes and body shaming. These aren't "real" issues when they affect people with the "wrong" genitalia. Gotta love how painfully oblivious anti-MRA are.
/r/MensRights22/12/15 01:51 AM
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Unlike feminists in safe western countries, Maria Alyokhina really did real activism dispite a very real threat of violence. She was arrested for speaking out and there is video of police attacking her with horse whips. She is not speaking out from an ivory tower or from behind an internet screen name. She isn't relying on the pussy pass to keep her safe. The article didn't go into why the museum is to be female only, but I'm at least willing to wait for that because Maria Alyokhina has earned t…
/r/MensRights19/12/15 05:02 PM
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For almost all of history women's roles where just as bad as the roles men were given, just in different ways. Women didn't have many rights, but they also enjoyed all sorts of protections. Men had rights women didn't, but didn't enjoy many protections. Arguing who had it "worse" is arguing which is bigger, 6 or half a dozen.
/r/MensRights19/12/15 04:12 PM
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I'm not going to dispute your much more indepth version. My 2 types of feminism version is an over simplification, but as an over simplification with the intent of not being too offensive, it works. The Equality feminists will at some point soon be forced to either abandon the label feminist or abandon the idea that they are supporting equality.
/r/MensRights18/12/15 04:05 PM
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Why is the gender identity important? We don't institutionalize people for having self identities that don't line up with physical realities in other ways. We don't institutionalize kids for acting like adults. We don't institutionalize middle age adults for acting like young adults. We don't institutionalize people when their racial identity doesn't line up with their biological identity. Why is someone not "feeling like" their biological sex different than a 50 year old woman "feeling like a y…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 06:30 AM
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There are two factors here. First and foremost, WOMEN FIRST. The fact that women attempt suicide more often is used to distract from the fact that men actually kill themselves more often. The goal of "but women attempt it more" isn't to get more help for depressed people, but to keep the focus of ALL aid programs on women and ONLY women. Second, expectations of help. The big reason for the disparity in success rates is choice of methods. Men get a gun and eat a bullet. There is no hope for help,…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 06:15 AM
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This is the mechanic of successful social change. Ghandi didn't get a seat at the negotiating table because the British liked him. He got a seat because the Bengali Tigers where waging a guerrilla war that was breaking Britain. Ghandi got a seat because he distanced himself from these freedom fighters. MLK didn't get his seat at the table because the KKK thought he was a good fellow. He got the seat because Malcolm X kept killing any "Whitey" that sat there. Paul Elam isn't MLK or Ghandi. He is …
/r/MensRights18/12/15 06:07 AM
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"Oppression" is the wrong word. What really exists are interconnected interdependent divisions of labor. Gender roles are forced upon both men and women. There where and still are really shitty things about being a woman. This is an undisputed fact. The problem is that feminists looked at these aspects of the female gender role and only these aspects of the female gender role and from only these aspects concluded Oppression. The narrative of "Oppression" is a bad narrative. Interconnected interd…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 05:59 AM
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Feminists fall into two very broad categories. 1) People that actually want equality, and think that's what feminism is about because they have never bothered to look any deeper than the definition and "equality" is right there in the definition. 2) Actual Feminists that understand feminist theory on gender and "The Patriarchy" and everything. These people are overwhelmingly hateful sexist bigots. As MRA do a better and better job of advocating for men, type 1 "Feminists" will start to understan…
/r/MensRights18/12/15 02:14 AM
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This is one of the many reasons I don't like feminism.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 07:40 PM
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This is information you need to get from a lawyer that knows the local codes and local judges and local presidents. This is not something that random people from all over the world will know. What we can do is offer supportive words and the advice of GET A LAWYER.
/r/MensRights16/12/15 04:59 PM
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The same causation/corrolation problems that are at the root of most of these studies. Women only agree to marry the wealthier/healthier men. Many many studies have very convincingly shown that wealth causes health. Having the wealth needed to eat healthy and seek medical care makes a person MUCH healthier. So these studies are not showing that marriage helps men live longer. They show that women select men for wealth and wealth.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 05:55 PM
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The biggest thing MRA can do now is raise awareness. Feminist misinformation has lead to most people think that Men's Rights Issues simply don't exist. The "Plan" is to not have a plan, to not have central leadership that can be the target of attacks on their character. Before a real list of legal changes and end points can be coherent, we need people to recognize that a problem exists that needs to be fixed.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 05:05 PM
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LOL complaints about how women are treated are almost never compared to how men are treated in the same situation. If the comparison is made, it will show the privilege of being female. If the comparison is made, it is as a bad comparison like "The Wage Gap" comparing construction workers to secretaries and nurses to programmers.
/r/MensRights13/12/15 01:43 AM
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pulled out a gun and said This is why the comparison doesn't work. Any time any thing is done at gun point, it is assumed to be done under duress IE. not consenting. This line of questioning doesn't happen to people who report having a gun pulled on them regardless of the crime. Now, this line of questioning does happen, it just happens in other situations. Me: I would like to report a mugging. Police: where did it take place? Me: Online, I've given 20$ to United Way every month for 5 years, but…
/r/MensRights07/12/15 03:31 AM
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It's not inconceivable that women just need more care due to physiology. Lets take this same argument to somewhere else, namely food. It's a well proven fact that men due to their physiology require more food than women. Does this mean that we should require women to subsudize men's food bills so that men and women pay the same for food dispite the fact that men eat more food. It's not an issue that men and women are different. It's not an issue that women use and/or require more health care. Sa…
/r/MensRights06/12/15 05:39 AM
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This is not an issue we should be trying to tackle. This is a joke in poor taste, but we need to not be like feminists attacking jokes because they are in poor taste. When a notable feminist posts shit like this, it's worth pointing out how sexist the notable feminist is being. That random person is being jokingly sexist about men is not.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 05:26 AM
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TL;DR "Man Up" and do so with mind reading!!!! It is your obligation as a man to provide women with companionship and take all the risks for providing her with companionship and you should mind read to know exactly how much of what kinds of attention she wants for this companionship. But it's not that one sided......she has irrational unfounded fears. I read crap like this and just think, yep MGTOW is the way to go.
/r/MensRights03/12/15 08:58 PM
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OP, you've got it wrong. According to feminism all men with out exception are potential rapists. We can also be prudes for not having sex. According to feminism, men engaging in abstanance are BOTH potential rapists and prudes for not having sex.
/r/MensRights03/12/15 08:38 PM
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Love the half truths posing as full solutions. An accusation of rape is in fact evidence of rape. The testomy/report of the accuser is valid and reasonable evidence. The problem is, this evidence is the worst kind of evidence. It is the weakest form of evidence. An individuals memory is at best questionable. This one piece of evidence is NOT enough to convince a reasonable person of guilt. It is important that we recognize the accusation as a single weak and highly disputable piece of evidence. …
/r/MensRights01/12/15 12:05 PM
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Don't get married is only a partial solution. Men need to never have children either.
/r/MensRights30/11/15 11:18 AM
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There are two distinct and unconnected issues in this article. The first is men holding hands. The second is the friendship the hand holding symbolizes. The dogmatic, regressive, and oppressive gender role imposed on men is something that the MRHM is fighting against. The fear mongering and outrage that men are holding hands is nothing more than sexist bigotry rearing it's ugly face. The other issue, the friendship between Bush and Abdullah, is 10 year old news and highly political. If the US sh…
/r/MensRights28/11/15 04:15 PM
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Black lives do matter. Black people are first and foremost PEOPLE. There are major issues with racism in policing and laws. There are major issues with oppressing people in poverty. The question of The Black Lives Matter MOVEMENT is a great deal more questionable. The MOVEMENT has a major focus on identity politics and is doing a great deal to undermine it's self with it's disruption tactics. The movement has major issues, but the issue they intend to address is very real.
/r/MensRights28/11/15 03:30 PM
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That there are women's teams isn't an issue. That there are attempts for gender equality isn't an issue. That there exists a male only football team is a verifiable fact. To balance the size and funding football gets there need to be some sports teams that are women only with no male counter part follows very reasonably from these thoughts. So the issue is that it's soccer rather than volley ball or swimming? Sorry, that's not a good reason to get upset.
/r/MensRights26/11/15 12:43 AM
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For Feminism The Seneca Falls Convention was in 1848, this was the start of orginized feminism. The first major victory was in 1919 with the passing of Women's Sufferage. It took feminism 71 years to do something that they could hold up and say "See THIS is what we are doing". The First Men's Rights Conference was held In 2013. That's only 2 years ago. We still have 69 years to get something MAJOR done to be out pacing feminism on how quickly we can orginize and enact change. So, given this, "Wh…
/r/MensRights25/11/15 01:33 PM
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This won't convince feminists of anything. According to feminism women are not real people with agency and self determination. Only men have these things. These women are not being violent women, they are obviously being controlled by men, making these examples of MALE violence. God I wish this was sarcasm.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 03:51 AM
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But the narrative of "The Patriarchy" will prevent people that advocate for men's rights from colonizing the State. With out breaking the threat narrative of victim feminism, we can't move to your step. Your step is step 2. First we need to complete step 1.
/r/MensRights23/11/15 03:30 AM
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You've got the big picture. What your missing is the small picture. What is step ONE? Step ONE is break/disrupt the current dominant narrative on gender and gender roles, feminism. We as individuals are powerless to enact change. As a demographic/voting block/large number we can enact change. If we are to get the numbers needed to enact change we must change the social narrative that our proposed changes are non-issues. Ultimately our goal needs to be changes in The State to help protect and emp…
/r/MensRights22/11/15 03:40 PM
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the 64 cent number comes from comparing the average annual incomes for full time workers. It doesn't include women that choose not to work. The number is still very skewed, it's comparing different pay for different work. It doesn't control for hours worked so long as the number is above 36 hours/week. It doesn't control for education or field of work. It doesn't control for experience or effectiveness. It's not ALL black women vs white males. But the number doesn't take into account all of the …
/r/MensRights22/11/15 03:29 PM
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This is a classic example of what they call priming. The first orderings "Prime" you to answer left or right for certain inputs. Then these minor biases based upon learned left or right (Not male/female or job/home) are used as proof of biases in male/female or job/home.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 06:49 PM
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MGTOW. Go your own way. You can't fix the world. There is one and only one person that you can control, that is you. Be in control of YOU. You don't need to engage in gender politics, if it's not making YOU happy, not fulfilling YOUR needs. Don't do it. Find what makes YOU happy, do what makes YOU happy. You are not defined by your relationships with women. Define yourself within yourself about yourself. Now is when I usually suggest something "girly" like learning cross stitch or knitting becau…
/r/MensRights20/11/15 03:15 AM
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part (F) sexual assault as defined by local law will be an issue. A slap on the ass is "Sexual Assault", but it's still well below the threshold for what should be criminal. The US Code is actually well written. I know the shenanigans that get pulled under local "Sexual Assault" laws and just assumed that the US Code was as bad. Minor infractions are lumped into this law. The major faults with this bill are 1)minor infractions, there are many minor things that are now "Sexual Assault" or "Batter…
/r/MensRights20/11/15 02:54 AM
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When the "Sanctions" are sever enough to derail a future, I agree. I fully agree. When the "Sanctions" are nothing but a minor inconvenience, we are talking about a different game entirely. The conflation between horrendeous acts of violence and being slightly uncomfortable is the problem with SJW activism on "RAPE". It is the same problem The Safe Campus Act has. When the situation can be resolved by telling someone "Go to the 9:30 section of this class rather than the 2:30 section", this resol…
/r/MensRights20/11/15 12:57 AM
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On the majority of campuses that are majority white, the logic follows. The author of the post recognizes that it's not undisputed, but it's not crazy talk either. I personally sometimes wish that there was some space for students that are 30+ because the teens get really annoying sometimes when I'm trying to study. What doesn't follow logic is that these spaces should exist for women on the majority of campuses that are majority women.
/r/MensRights20/11/15 12:26 AM
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Find a different table. These girls know that "vagina" will protect them should you try ANYTHING. Look at them wrong and they will fall down roll around on the floor while screaming "RAPE". Your only real option is disengagement. They have their own little in group, let them have it. Just walk away, and take any of your friends that will come with you. Your friends know what's going on. Talk with them, tell them exactly whats going on and they will most likely agree to assist in playing musical …
/r/MensRights20/11/15 12:15 AM
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The Safe Campus Act needs to be condemned. It needs to be stopped. The Act is nothing but a hysterical over reaction to the histrionics of "Rape Culture" on campuses. The Safe Campus Act does nothing to make campuses safer for victims of assault or false accusations. The Safe Campus Act does the same thing SJW do, and that is conflate "uncomfortable sexual situation" and RAPE. The Act will force young women experiencing an uncomfortable sexual situation to report it to the police as rape, or the…
/r/MensRights19/11/15 11:23 PM
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Mankind is a label for all people, even women. Never mind that if you trace the history of the word "man" it's gender neutral with "wereman" being the gendered noun. Kind also has neutral or good connotations. mansplaining and manspreading have very negative connotations so they are just fine to gender male. Notice how it's never gunman that feminist complain about being gendered, it's chairman.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 11:00 PM
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The solution to this problem is gas lighting. I'm sorry you can't take a joke. I'm sorry you don't understand sarcasm. I'm sorry you don't like examining gender and gender roles. I'm sorry you can't understand different perspective. I'm sorry that you are such a problematic group that I'm writing a gas lighting apology to point out how badly you don't grasp reality.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 10:48 PM
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on #3 they cite the one and only case I know of where this is true. RGB is a feminist and shot down a law because it discriminated against men. They have one and only one example of this happening, but that one example does disprove NEVER.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 10:41 PM
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I've seen most of the list. Most of the points in most of the articles are false or unintended side affects of advocating for women. I didn't see any that where talking of major initiatives aimed primarily at helping men. Really it's just someone blowing smoke. The link in Swedish for how the Feminist Party in Sweden opposes Circumcision doesn't talk about men at all. It's about FGM. They are relying on you being to lazy to paste the txt into google translate to verify. If you bother to read and…
/r/MensRights19/11/15 12:42 PM
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I respectfully disagree. It's not the feminists that made this the most effective International Men's Day yet. It was the hard work and organization of MRA that made this Day notable. It was MRA that for the first time really had events planned and organized and authorized for International Men's Day. It was MRA giving the nutjobs something to cry over that deserve the credit, not the feminists acting in a very predictable manner.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 04:24 AM
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I think you hit the nail on the head. The "space issue" of "Manspreading" is a non-issue. People don't spread out like that in any notable numbers when the transit is crowded. If they did, ass holes like me would sit in their laps. Men "Manspread" when there is plenty of space to spread, when space isn't an issue. This means it's not a space issue and men presenting themselves as strong would be in keeping with feminist hystronics.
/r/MensRights19/11/15 12:51 AM
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Yea, but IF feminism really was about equality, then the problematic legal situation of domestic violence victims being arrested because "penis" WOULD be a MAJOR feminist issue. Having the police properly identify domestic abusers and arrest them would be supportive of equality, saying your movement has nothing to do with supporting equality means it doesn't promote equality. Amazing how bad at logic some feminists are.
/r/MensRights17/11/15 10:14 PM
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The most common definition of feminism that MRA use is the one that pops up when you google define feminism. "The advocacy for women's rights on the basis of social, political, and economic equality to men" When defending this definition feminists focus exclusively on the last three words, "equality to men". This is not the full definition. Feminism is the advocacy for women's rights. It's right there in the definition. The explicit inclusion of one thing is the implicit exclusion of everything …
/r/MensRights16/11/15 11:11 PM
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Why not work with feminists to create "Safe spaces" for all? Because "Safe Spaces" are in general a bad idea. We don't need more spaces filled with kittens and coloring books. When someone is giving a talk you don't like, any where but that one room is a "Safe Space" from the terrifying ideas a weak willed mind can't handle. Now if you mean create SHARED spaces then that is possible, at least in theory. For MRA and Feminists to share a space the anti-other gender BS from both sides would need to…
/r/MensRights16/11/15 10:48 PM
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There are homeless men, you've seen them. They just don't register. You just don't care about them. But that one time the homeless person had the wrong genitalia to be homeless....that you noticed.
/r/MensRights16/11/15 10:22 PM
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The question asked and being answered is "What have MRA done" not "What has AVFM done". That these are individual MRA doesn't change that they are MRA and getting stuff done.
/r/MensRights16/11/15 12:23 PM
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It's raising awareness. Once people look and realize that the issue actually exists, the wheels start turning to fix it. The most obvious achievement of the MHRM are the changes to the 2014 reauth of VAWA. Because of our raising awareness that male victims of domestic violence even exist, VAWA is no longer explicitly exclusionary to male victims and is funding shelters for men fleeing domestic violence.
/r/MensRights16/11/15 12:21 PM
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The issue isn't how fast or slow divorces happen, but what the results are. I would be fine with divorce being able to be filed and completed with in an hour so long as the results are equitable. The problem with divorce isn't that it can happen quickly, but that women are incentivised to divorce by a court system that will enforce child support and alimony "To keep her in the lifestyle she has become accustomed to" without regard for how this affects the man. The problem is a court system that …
/r/MensRights16/11/15 12:13 PM
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The foundations of Feminism are "The Patriarchy" and "Male Privilege". With out these two concepts/constructs feminism does not exist. I have no words to describe these constructs if not misandry. The closest the MHRM comes to these is Gynocentrism. Gynocentrism doesn't posit that women are AT FAULT for the problems in society, but recognizes that society was built around the protection and provision of women. Men only issues don't exist, just as women only issues don't exist. What exists are ge…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 10:16 PM
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What counts as "Garbage" is very situation and subjective. In one paper I was citing "The Flat Earth Society"s page. For this paper it was a sound reasonable and reliable source because it was a fair representation of the views of The Flat Earth Society. For a paper about the formation of the Earth, this source would simply be garbage.
/r/MensRights15/11/15 04:02 AM
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The issues that the MHRM is trying to address are largely BIG institutional issues dealing with law policy and procedure. You can promise not to abuse the hugely disproportionate amount of power the state gives you, but that only lasts until you change your mind. You can't opt out of having the ability to destroy a man's life on your word alone, the best you can do as an individual is promise not to do it.
/r/MensRights15/11/15 03:41 AM
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To be "Anti-Western", you don't need to be Pro-eastern or Pro-middle-eastern or pro-african. It is possible to be anti-western with out thinking that there's better options. Feminists are most decidedly anti-the way things have historically been in the west, particularly the things that lead to the rise of the west into it's current position of power. Feminism is "anti-western" in favor of some half cocked utopian idealized matriarchy. On collectivism.... from the wikipedia article you linked Co…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 03:32 AM
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For casting a broad net, you won't have a problem finding sources. Look for raw data, not interpretations of that data. Pull raw data from sources to compare men and women. If you check definitions that the studies use, you can often find better comparisons than the abstract uses. The CDC study I linked is the perfect example. They split "Forced to have sex" into "forced by a man" and "forced by a woman" and only counted "forced by a man" as "rape" I don't have access to databases of scholarly a…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 03:16 AM
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Feminism has always been this way. It has always been a man hating, pro women only pseudo hate group. What changed isn't feminism. What changed is that the few not-really-gended issues that where really issues got addressed for people, but only people with the correct genitalia. When feminism was arguing that there shouldn't be restrictions on women in the work place, they had 1/2 a point. When feminists where arguing about under-representation of women in higher education, they had 1/2 a point.…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 02:24 AM
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Your going to have a problem with most sources having a very VERY feminist slant to them. This doesn't mean you can't find sources. You will just have to go for the direct data, not the interpretations or absracts. http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf If you look at the actual numbers men are "Forced to Penetrate" at the same rate women are "Penetrated by force". You can find similar data if you actually look at the data for most reports. The 60/40 split favoring wome…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 02:17 AM
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MGTOW don't under estimate female devotion to their own children. There are two things your not getting. First, your underestimating the mental gymnastics and pure crazy women, particularly feminist women, will go through to hold two contradictory ideas in their heads at the same time. All men are rapists, but not MY Nigel. Second. MGTOW are not talking about our mothers, we talk about women we could potentially date, marry, have kids with. We are not these women's children so that devotion to t…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 12:32 AM
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I was actually really with the article up until the line. There are no legal obstacles to men becoming schoolteachers or nurses, so this is largely a question of culture and attitude. That's where they lost me. There are not legal obstacles to men becoming school teachers, but there are MASSIVE legal and social obsticals to men keeping the jobs. If the rape hysteria epidemic doesn't end, we can expect to see fewer and fewer men in these jobs. Other than that it's fairly good. We need paternity l…
/r/MensRights15/11/15 12:19 AM
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Most of the commenters here have learned how to deal with the issue without the need for a bot. Very rarely do I see "That's a great idea". Most agreement posts are "Treating men and women equally in court rooms is a good idea". Even if the op changes their post to "Women should all be barefoot pregnant and in the kitchen". The comments I most often see would simply appear non-sequitor as opposed to agreeing with sexism.
/r/MensRights15/11/15 12:02 AM
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Your philosophy prof doesn't even understand what a double standard is, let alone how they affect men or women. When talking about gender double standards means one standard for men and a different standard for women. Two, double, standards. This means by the very definition of double standard every gendered double standard affects MEN. Some examples. When a person is promiscuous a woman is a "Slut" but a man is a "Stud". When a person refuses or delays sex a woman is "Pure" but a man must be ga…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 05:34 AM
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I see one thing here and only one thing. Publicity for Cassie Jaye's film. And that is a good thing. If the MSM starts feeding "The Controversy" over Cassie's film, it will get much more exposure and a much wider audience.
/r/MensRights14/11/15 02:36 AM
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Yea. Correlation/Causation fallacy. There is a very strong correlation between low crime and low other devient behaviors and marriage. The reason for this is obvious, painfully obvious to any one willing to look past their own nose. It's non-criminals, non-devients that get married. Criminals locked in the rape cages we call prision don't have any real marriage possibilities. Just like with income, men with higher incomes are married because of the higher incomes. Men with higher incomes are not…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 02:30 AM
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False Accusations are a "Dark Number". There does exist some number accusations that are false. We have no means to reliably and accurately gather this data. All that can be said with a very high degree of certainty is that False Accusations fall somewhere in the range of 2% to 97% of all accusations. Best guesstamites put the number at 40%ish. This is hardly a small problem. Why does this get talked about more than male rape victims? Because it can't be deflected to "The Patriarchy". It can't g…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 02:15 AM
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Back in the Victorian Era Women's bodies where considered too important too valuable and too sacred to subject to the barbaric and highly invasive medical experiments of the time. Men where disposable and perfectly acceptable subjects for degradation and dismemberment. A great deal of the fundamentals of modern science based medicine where developed at this time doing things to men, and only men, that make the Tuskeegee experiments and Nazi experiments look down right ethical. This does mean tha…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 02:02 AM
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How many programs do you see that punish and penalize girls for not pursing more difficult coursework like maths and sciences? How many of the super simple classes have an "A" only be a 3/4 for GPA to show that it really was a joke of a course? These classes are overwhelmingly female. How many classes allow teachers to riducule girls for not being more like boys in assertiveness and competitiveness? None, that would get the teacher fired. Punishment isn't considered a good or useful tool for cor…
/r/MensRights14/11/15 01:44 AM
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It doesn't need to be possible to reason with them to be reasonable ourselves and hold onto notions like liberty and freedom. Feminists are unreasonable. This does not mean we should let ourselves sink to their level.
/r/MensRights14/11/15 12:30 AM
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It doesn't need to be possible to reason with them to be reasonable ourselves and hold onto notions like liberty and freedom. Feminists are unreasonable. This does not mean we should let ourselves sink to their level.
/r/MensRights14/11/15 12:29 AM
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It doesn't need to be possible to reason with them to be reasonable ourselves and hold onto notions like liberty and freedom. Feminists are unreasonable. This does not mean we should let ourselves sink to their level.
/r/MensRights14/11/15 12:28 AM
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There are many ways that feminists are all "Like That". These stem from fundamentals of feminism like Patriarchy Theory and the concept of Privilege. A leap that shouldn't be made is that because one member associated with a group is violent, that they are all violent. Some men are violent, therefore all men are violent. We know this to be flawed logic. This is the logic you are using.
/r/MensRights13/11/15 04:03 AM
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The issue I see isn't that Rousey engaged in violence, but the double standard where Ray Rice was vilified for a lesser act of violence. We need to not be outraged over Rousey or Rice.
/r/MensRights11/11/15 04:57 AM
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It's not. Your statement is exactly the statement of feminism. If the cost, any cost is worth it to prevent rapes, why the focus on deamonizing men? We would have much more success at stopping rape if women where treated as very valuable chattel. Rape of upper middle class white women (ie feminists) would never happen if a man had to buy sexual rights to her from her father before ever even touching her. If ANY cost is worth it to stop rape, treating women as chattel would be more effective. Now…
/r/MensRights10/11/15 12:39 PM
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Do you know WHY it became traditional for men to pay for dates? It's because women didn't work outside the home and earn their own money. Women didn't bring money to the relationship, they brought domestic skills and baby making. Men brought money to the relationship. To show off how well they could provide for a prospective wife, the man would pay for dates. Today, this is not true. Today women are doing paid work. Women are bringing money to the relationship. Men are also expected to contribut…
/r/MensRights09/11/15 12:22 PM
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On this, there is no consensus. That there are social and cultural forces at work to push people in different directions is a well supported and strong argument. That both women and men have the option to not allow themselves to be pushed and choose a different path is also a well supported and strong argument. The "MRA response" to your point would be to agree that you have a point. You can't have your cake and eat it too. How individual MRA will respond will vary dramatically. Some MRA will sa…
/r/MensRights08/11/15 10:43 PM
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There is a very specific claim that gets spouted all the time. This claim is mythical. Women get paid 77c for every dollar a man makes FOR THE SAME WORK. That there is an average difference in the average wages for the average man and the average woman averaged over a year is not in dispute. The myth is WHY. The myth is that this difference is FOR THE SAME WORK. There should be attention paid to how men and women make different choices. It is valid to talk about how women are pushed into low pay…
/r/MensRights08/11/15 09:42 PM
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"Don't stumble down the street alone, drunk and half dressed in the middle of the night Because there is a serial rapist active in the area" Is very different than "Don't drive at all because someone was speeding" What would be similar? "Don't Drive near the intersection of X street and Y street because there is an active shooter attempting to murder passing motorists" And you know what, this is the advice the police gave motorists in this situation. Vagina does not make you special.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 11:55 AM
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I give her 0.0001% of a point. Women are shorter than men. On the buses I ride most women can't reach the top rail. On crowded transist there may not be an option of moving to a different vertical pole. It's only 0.0001% of a point because as many others have pointed out all she needs to do is ask, and he will move. 99.9999% of the point she's trying to make is that he doesn't mind read her wants.
/r/MensRights05/11/15 03:02 AM
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The best we can really hope for is that she isn't blatantly one sided, that she isn't producing a hit piece attacking MRA. Did she present the "abstinence only" people as hateful sexist religious zealots that want all women barefoot and pregnant and in the kitchen? That is the kind of image Futrell would present if he was making the film about MRA. It is very possible that Cassie's film will have some bad statistics in it. Given the sheer volume and acceptance of the bad statistics fabricated by…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 11:04 PM
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O, the amusement. Actually look at the pictures. In 2/3 there is a woman doing the exact same thing, but it's not the women "Pole hogging" that we are sposed to get outraged about. It's only the men who shouldn't do this.
/r/MensRights04/11/15 10:47 PM
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A strong stable healthy marriage will lift both the husband and wife out of poverty and/or stop them both from falling into poverty. The problem is finding one of these, particularity in impoverished communities. I have personally seen this play out about a dozen times. Two people, both in poverty, meet, fall in love, get married, have kids and improve their lives. This couple living as a couple is now no longer in poverty. The wife, looking at her husband who's work will only hold the family at…
/r/MensRights04/11/15 10:42 PM
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You have serious anger issues, get professional help. The world is not black and white. Pure evil does not exist. Pure good does not exist. Asserting absolutes shows this to be your thinking. This is flawed thinking. Women have not accomplished much, but not much is worlds beyond NOTHING.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 04:55 AM
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You have serious anger issues. You need professional help. The world is not black and white. Pure evil does not exist. Pure good does not exist. Feminism had done a great deal of damage. This doesn't mean NOTHING feminists have done is good. Finding the tiny pieces where feminists accidentally stepped in the truth is important if we are to ever have the whole truth.
/r/MensRights03/11/15 03:17 AM
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Rather than bitching about how poorly other people can identify good books on gender equality, let's make our own list. Who Stole Feminism by Summers The Myth of Male power by Warren Farrell Why Men Earn More by Farrell Spreading Misandry by Nathanson For balance The Feminine Mystique By Freidan What other suggestions do people have?
/r/MensRights03/11/15 01:22 AM
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You know that saying, even a broken clock is right twice a day? Feminism is that broken clock. But after 75 years of being correct twice a day, there is a great deal of stuff feminism has gotten correct. When advocating for men we need to be careful to not throw the baby out with the bath water and keep that tiny minority of stuff Feminism accidentally got correct. Not placing restrictions on women's education is one such broken clock moment. I'm not defending the lowering of standard or Affirma…
/r/MensRights03/11/15 01:08 AM
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By not supporting it they prove they think other things are more important than gender equality. But still this is a far cry from actively trying to shut it down.
/r/MensRights02/11/15 11:39 AM
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I disagree. People that are looking for evidence the MHRM is a bunch of women haters will find that evidence if it's this post or not. People looking for evidence as to what the MHRM is about will look at this post and see the top comments are calling this shit out. Banning people that don't violate the rules would turn this sub into an echo chamber real quick.
/r/MensRights02/11/15 11:37 AM
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It was shortly after The Matrix was released that MRA started using "The Red Pill" as a metaphor for seeing the world without the feminist lense. There was a decade and a half of MRA using this metaphor to help people understand why "Violence against Women" isn't really a thing. There was a decade a a half of MRA using this metaphor to help people understand that they where in a world of dreams, not the real world. It was only about a year ago that PUA became so deragotory of a term that they re…
/r/MensRights02/11/15 02:40 AM
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Not so much that. That post at AVFM isn't calling out any specific group as being the trolls. Trolls exist isn't a controversial assertion. That a project with 1,600 backers is troll free is just wishful thinking. Saying that we should over fund the project to guard against the possibility of some notable portion of funding disappearing at the last second isn't bad journalism. Unnamed unaffiliated haters exist. Troll pledges are a reality of working with kickstarter. These are not assertions tha…
/r/MensRights01/11/15 07:34 PM
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I say bad journalism. When pro-feminist writers just make shit up about MRA, it's bad because people believe them. There is no evidence that feminists are actively trying to shut down the documentary. I defended the post saying they are not supporting the documentary, this is a verifiable fact. Not supporting =/= trying to shut down. As a group we shouldn't support baseless accusations of ill intent, even when the baseless accusations are leveled at feminists.
/r/MensRights01/11/15 02:52 PM
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TL;DR version There exist more women with out restrictions on who qualifies than men who are both more attractive than average and earning above the median wage. Who'd a thunk it. All women outnumber 25% of men.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 10:57 PM
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Your the one advocating that society force women to do things they clearly are not interested in. For 84% of women, being a housewife IS what interests them, and that's just fine for them. The other 16% of women are what we are talking about. These women shouldn't have their goals and dreams smashed because they are a minority. Accomplishments need to be recognized regardless of the gender of the individual who is credited with the accomplishment. You are making the case that women's accomplishm…
/r/MensRights31/10/15 09:10 PM
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You clearly don't understand computers and computability. Just because you don't understand an achievement doesn't mean it wasn't a massive world changing achievement. Also, if your the kind of person that SJW see, no wonder they think MRA are anti-woman. You very clearly are. You have this veiw of women as being capable of little more than fetching coffee and cooking dinner.
/r/MensRights31/10/15 02:12 PM
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While I agree with the black box analogy, I don't agree with the congress analogy. A better analogy would be the Republican Party. There is not work being done to get statues passed that are "close enough". There is work being done to shut down anything less radically <insert ideology> than I am. There is work being done to exclude anyone less radical than the average. The black box isn't an open honest debate where every one gets a voice and everyone gets a vote. The black box is an oligarchy w…
/r/MensRights31/10/15 04:54 AM
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Grace Hopper didn't build a computer or design one. She did something much harder. She created a compiler, the very first compiler. This leap forward was an ever larger step forward than the first computer. I personally have made computers more powerful than "Big Blue"(The main frame used to calculate trajectories in WWII) in my spare time with spare parts. I still haven't managed to make a working compiler. Had a man done this, his name would be better known than Jobs or Gates. The first compil…
/r/MensRights31/10/15 04:39 AM
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The list of inventions by men vs inventions by women may be a skyscraper next to an ant. I'm not disputing this. What I'm asserting is that THE ANT EXISTS. It is important to recognize that THE ANT EXISTS. Also, you clearly don't comprehend the amazing contributions that Grace Hopper made. I understand EXACTLY what she did. I do mean EXACTLY. It was nothing short of revolutionary. It is not disrespecting myself to recognize the accomplishments of people with dis-similar genitalia.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 09:04 PM
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The list isn't NOTHING, and we shouldn't dismiss women that where part of a team. Grace Hopper was instrumental in the development of programming languages and computer science. Melitta Bentz invented the modern coffee maker. The list is short, but it's not NOTHING. Most male inventors where part of a team. We don't discount Edison's controbutions because he had a team, we shouldn't discount Women in the same position.
/r/MensRights30/10/15 11:30 AM
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Not really. Had they fired the harasser she has multi-billion dollar international organizations that she can go to for funding to sue. The victim does not.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 11:11 AM
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"The Patriarchy" is a conspiracy theory. "Patriarchy Theory" presupposes cooperation and coordination between men to keep women oppressed. "Feminism" is not a conspiracy theory. It is very well documented that "Feminism" is a real group with real people and a real agenda advocating for real changes. This is the difference between the two claims. There isn't good reason to think that the film didn't get funding because feminism feared it would be anti-feminist. WHY feminists didn't deem the film …
/r/MensRights29/10/15 01:14 AM
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No one's questioning Sarkesian about how her videos are supported by feminists and funded by feminists. Where is the feminist outrage over feminists funding pro-feminism media? There isn't any. Also it doesn't take a conspiracy for "feminist producers refused to fund the production". It doesn't take cooperation or coordination for people with the same mind set to look at the same proposal and come to the same conclusion. Cooperation and coordination are needed for a conspiracy.
/r/MensRights29/10/15 12:53 AM
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My one thought on this was that feminists funded feminist works. There isn't outcry and outrage that feminists not only fund but write and publish and publicize information about feminism. Why is there any concern at all that MRA are funding information about MRA?
/r/MensRights28/10/15 09:44 PM
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Yes, There exist many documented cases where this has happened. The most egregious I know of is one case where a teacher raped a 12 year old boy. There is no question that she is a rapist. She was convicted of rape in a court of law and was in prison for rape when she had the baby. The 12 year old rape victim was still ordered to pay child support to the rapist.
/r/MensRights28/10/15 09:34 PM
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Women F E E L under-served. Never mind that they are the most catered to demographic for every consumer good. They don't FEEL well served. It's about how women FEEL, regardless of reality. Really, the actual complaints are "There exist automobiles that are not made and marketed exclusively for women" and "There have been some bad marketing campaigns in the past"
/r/MensRights28/10/15 12:29 AM
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This fits with what I've been saying. Women entering the workforce created the problems, it didn't solve them, it's not a reaction to them. Feminism and the push to get more women involved in paid work created the problem regardless of if you view it as a two income trap as Warren does or if you view it as stagflation as I've said.
/r/MensRights27/10/15 09:39 PM
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My understanding of your original point was that feminism caused women to enter the work force, and that did good. This is not the case. Women would have entered the work force with out feminism, but at a much slower rate. With out Feminism women entering the workforce would not have dramatically supersaturated the labor market leading to the ongoing wage stagnation. With out feminism, the good things attributed to feminism would have taken a few years longer, but with out the anti-male and econ…
/r/MensRights27/10/15 01:05 AM
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You are wrong on many points in your example. In the 70's worker productivity did not stop growing. The wage stagnation of the 70's didn't drive women into the workforce. Women entering the workforce in mass drove wage stagnation. The "Boom" in the 80's was the result of The Fed holding interest rates down. So In the 70's idle women entering the workforce drove wage stagnation despite growing productivity and produced no real economic benefits. Heck, we still haven't recoved from the stagnation …
/r/MensRights26/10/15 11:32 PM
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Feminism is and has always been upper-middle class white women complaining that they have to much privilidge. Just look at 2nd wave feminism and "The problem with no name". This "Problem" is that white upper-middle class suburban housewives lives where so very easy being gifted with everything but self-acutualization by their husbands. The complaint was that after their husbands designed and built and purchashed all of the labor saving home appliances for them, that their work load dropped from …
/r/MensRights26/10/15 12:10 PM
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The problem is the word "Rape". "Rape" has all sorts of connotations and subtext. The dominant understanding of rape is "A man forcing carnal knowledge upon a woman". By this definition it's only real rape if the perpetrator is male and the victim is female. If you consider definitions of "rape" like "Forced to engage in intercourse", the numbers look radically different. I expect that for every country if you can find the numbers for both "Penetrated by force" and "forced to penetrate", men wil…
/r/MensRights26/10/15 01:44 AM
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Being labeled "Anti-Woman" isn't something we can avoid or even should attempt to avoid. Being labeled "Anti-Woman" is the one and only play in the anti-men playbook. If we greet "Your a Misogynist" with "And I eat babies, don't forget that one" then we disfuse the entire claim. Being labeled "Anti-Woman" isn't something we should be avoiding. Feminism is problematic precisely because it's NOT "Anti-Woman". Feminism argues for Gender equality only when it's beneficial to women or harmful to men.…
/r/MensRights24/10/15 05:43 PM
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Your getting the feminist argument wrong. They don't care about false accusers recanting to let innocent men out of prison. The claim is that if prosecution for false accusations was common then even fewer actual rape victims would come forward and report the crimes for fear of being prosecuted for false allegations. It doesn't matter if false accusations get 10 innocent men locked in cages so long as ONE rapist gets punished. A woman that never came forward to report a rape because of fear of p…
/r/MensRights23/10/15 11:22 PM
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Umm, fact check time for her. Women make up more than 60% of University Students. Men are the minority on campus. She needs to check her privilege and stop oppressing the minority group!!!!!
/r/MensRights23/10/15 01:22 AM
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Wait, WTF. Are they citing Phyllis Schafly as a feminist? Schafly was as anti-feminist as one could possibly be, even more so than MRA. She was a Trad Con that got the Equal Rights Amendment defeated by showing that it wouldn't grant any more special privileges on women. If they are encouraging people to read Schafly thinking she's a feminist, then they are just nut jobs. Stay the hell away from them. This would be like an official campus men's rights group citing Jessica Valenti or Andria Dwork…
/r/MensRights22/10/15 01:31 AM
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I don't see this as a problem. Different benefits for different genders isn't an issue if there is balance between the benefits and costs for both men and women and balance between men and women with benefits and costs. The problem is the concept that men and women should always be treated the same. Gender equality is a good goal, gender sameness is not.
/r/MensRights21/10/15 12:41 AM
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Sadly, this is actually progress. At least now it's becoming reasonable to tell men how to avoid false accusations. A few years ago the thought was don't teach women to avoid rape, teach men not to rape. Don't teach women not to falsely claim rape and don't teach men how to avoid false accusations because that may hurt a woman's feelz. That false accusations are enough of a thing that it's reasonable to teach men how to avoid them is actually real progress even if it doesn't look that way.
/r/MensRights17/10/15 06:13 PM
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"Mental Health" as an overly broad category is not gendered. Having gender neutral advocacy for "Mental Health" is a good thing. The issue is when smaller categories are used. Addressing suicide as a non-gendered issue is problematic.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 03:58 PM
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It is reasonable to fear false accusations. False accusations are somewhere in the range of 8%-97% of all accusations made. This huge range is the best we can say with certainty. If false accusations are in the upper end of this range, it is perfectly reasonable to fear them.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 11:51 AM
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Well then start looking for places like ISIS or Omish Country founded upon religious dogma or war torn places like Syria or the Sudan. These really are your three option, religious crazies, war, or stop dating.
/r/MensRights10/10/15 11:46 AM
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Yes, you could probably find 10's of stories like this out of the tens of millions of rape accusations. It does happen, but much less frequently than 1 in a million rape accusations, or 1 in a billion for men in general. The functional probability of it happening to YOU is ZERO.
/r/MensRights09/10/15 11:07 PM
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The solution isn't to flee from a physical location. You can live peacefully just about anywhere so long as you don't engage in romantic entanglements with women. Getting accused out of the blue because your name was in the phone book just doesn't happen. Accusations real and false all have one thing in common, sex. That girl who sits three seats down from you in Econ101 and thinks your cute, she won't accuse you of rape for never asking her out. She may accuse you of rape if you do and it progr…
/r/MensRights09/10/15 10:04 PM
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How many pancakes will fit on your roof??? WRONG, motorcycles have no doors!!!!! This joke makes as much sense as the meme, respond to the meme as you would someone holding up this joke as a political statement about gun safety.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 11:13 PM
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Women on average make less than men on average because on average women on average work less hours in fields that pay less and men on average work more hours in fields that pay more. A good reply to "Since women only make 75% of what men make, we should only have to work 30 hours a week and get paid for 40". Is to say, That is already the case. That women are putting in less hours on average than men accounts for the majority of that 25% difference.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 09:08 PM
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That men are not evil rape monsters for whom it's better in every way at every time in every situation than for women is enough of opposition to the feminist way of thinking and institutionalized discouse to cause the needed disruptions.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 10:47 AM
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But this isn't grandstanding in a political arena. We are discussuing how one individual should talk with another.
/r/MensRights06/10/15 01:42 AM
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This is the point my tact is strongest against. There is no reason at all to not fix the problems women face. This is not an either/or situation where only the problems of men OR women can be addressed. The problems of both men and women can be addressed by properly identifying the root and correcting it in a way benificial to both men and women. Women suffer more, that's just fine to assert. It doesn't justify making things worse for men whom are also suffering.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 12:08 PM
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I'm not sure what behavior "dolins" describes but it must be bad and evil because it's prefaced with "Man"
/r/MensRights05/10/15 11:08 AM
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There is no need to show men have it WORSE so long as you can show men have it bad. There is no need to show that men are more often the victim so long as you can show that men are sometimes the victim. From there you can work towards agreement on a solution that help's both men and women.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 11:04 AM
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I have never been in or even seen a discussion about men and gender issues that didn't either take my tact or quickly degrade into an argument over oppression olympics. If you've found a unicorn that can discus such issues rationally, congrats to you.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 02:24 AM
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Yep, dead on target. Men took the hit when she set herself on a collision course with them rather than making way for her. She wasn't given "due deference" because "vagina", and that proves men are assholes.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 02:04 AM
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Every gender issue does not affect both genders equally. The "force" on women to accept the role of single mother after divorce is much more about social pressure than law, unlike the very real force used to exclude men from parenthood. The root issue is the "Primary Caregiver" rule in family courts and the assumption that Mothers are primary caregivers. There is no need or call for determining who has it worse if you agree that 50/50 shared custody by assumption is the solution. If you try to a…
/r/MensRights05/10/15 01:56 AM
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Inherent gynocentrism in the human species more than adequately explains the power of feminism with out the need for conspiracy type theories. Even if Feminism has other affects, no need to look any farther than gynocentrism to understand where feminism came from.
/r/MensRights05/10/15 01:41 AM
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Simply put, if your having a conversation about "because we disagreed on whether men or women are the primary victims of systematic gender discrimination." You are having the wrong conversation. There are no winners when you play Oppression Olympics. Playing Oppression Olympics obscures the real issues and hinders actual progress to resolving the issues. Every gender issue has two sides, the side the affects men and the side the affects women. To say that one side of a coin is better or worse th…
/r/MensRights05/10/15 01:36 AM
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You are making a good point, but missing the point. Murderous Psycopaths do exist. Little to nothing can be done to stop or even properly identify them before an Incident like Columbine. This explains only about 1 in 10 mass shootings in the US. If we caught and helped the alienated young men before they go nuts, the rate of mass shootings would drop by 90%. That one in 10 that's just broken in the head would still do this shit, but they are a minority of shooters.
/r/MensRights04/10/15 03:22 AM
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You recall incorrectly, even very tiny gaps could be statistically significant. The Statistical significance is based on how closely clustered the data points are, not on the difference between the groups. Also, I agree the wage gap as feminist portray it is pure fantasy. It is possible, even likely, that some gap exists. That gap is so small it's not distinguishable against the noise.
/r/MensRights03/10/15 01:53 AM
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No, this thinking is just fine. There is a long history of wage discrimination against women. If you look back at the 50's it's very pronounced and openly accepted. It is perfectly reasonable to think that 100% of this discrimination hasn't had enough time to work it's way out of the system. The studies that control for an adjusted wage gap do find a wage gap in the 4-7% range. So this is strong supporting evidence that the discrimination that is well documented to have happened in the 50's hasn…
/r/MensRights02/10/15 09:52 PM
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That one very narrowly defined problem was solved. Not any larger issues.
/r/MensRights30/09/15 12:17 AM
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Prior to developing this concept of Gynocentrism the big validish critisim of the MHRM was that we where trying to break the threat narrative of victim feminism with out having a better narrative to replace it with. That we didn't actually have any ideas, we just hated women. With the development and very common use of "gynocentrism" we have solved that problem. The real issue is turning gynocentrism into "The Patriarchy" for Men's Rights. It's not that we need to stop using gynocentrism, but th…
/r/MensRights29/09/15 11:38 AM
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"Fit for combat" is a fuzzy term. Women are fully capable of doing nearly every combat action that men are. Women can run, just not as fast as men. Women can jump, just not as high as men. Women can shoot guns, just not as accurately as men. If we ever get to the point of needing to activate the draft, it will be about having more bodies to feed into the grinder. It won't be about having individually effective soldiers.
/r/MensRights29/09/15 12:05 AM
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It doesn't sound like your facing an issue of understanding or being able to articulate Men's Rights issues and positions. It sounds like you've got difficulty with public speaking. There isn't a web site or video lecture that you can watch that will help with this. It takes practice. Practicing any form of public speaking will help with all forms of public speaking. Go volunteer for what ever political party you support and talk politics with them. There are many public speaking programs that w…
/r/MensRights28/09/15 11:57 PM
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Never underestimate the power of super double plus good group think!!!
/r/MensRights28/09/15 01:23 AM
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Discrimination is sometimes allowable. Some times it's reasonable. (There isn't a great deal of overlap in these two though) For example, you wouldn't be allowed to join the women's soccer team. Given the "Women in STEM" stuff, the admin and courts will probably consider this discrimination acceptable. You could probably push for the creation of a mentoring program for men in nursing or teaching.
/r/MensRights28/09/15 01:12 AM
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The problem is conflation. It is very true that people with power make rules and enforce them. These rules then become norms. The question is WHO HAS POWER. Is it reasonable to claim "Men" as a group have power? Are Black men not men? Are hispanic men not men? Are these people in power? Even poor whites, That homeless white man sleeping rough, is HE making rules and enforcing them on others? The simple answer is NO. MEN as a class DO NOT have power. It is the wealthy elite that have power. While…
/r/MensRights20/09/15 02:46 PM
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Don't get me wrong. This nutter isn't a bench mark for how crazy before you get kicked out of feminism. This nutter actually got kicked out. There are people with higher levels of crazy that get held up as feminist icons. The specific individual in question got kicked out.
/r/MensRights20/09/15 10:26 AM
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This blog is the one and only example I know of where a feminist went to far and was kicked out of feminism because she was too loony. This is not feminism, this is a nut job even by feminist standards.
/r/MensRights20/09/15 12:01 AM
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This is more reasonable than it sounds at first glance. There are three big factors that need to be pointed out. First, this is functionally the same bills split that would happen under a pooled resources system. The idea of unequal shares of expenses just gets glossed over in a pooled resource system. Second, it's not 76% of his total income going to expenses. It's he pays 76% of the bills. After bills are paid, he will still have 2.5 times as much money left over as she does. This leads to poi…
/r/MensRights18/09/15 10:29 AM
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Why would she do that? "Manhood Academy" is nothing but angst ridden teenagers acting out. Several MRA have already debated them and we know what the results will be. The fool child from "Manhood Academy" will pose and posture and insult but say nothing of interest or value. Any point made by the MRA will be countered with "You just a pussy worshiping mangina", probably worse given Janet is female.
/r/MensRights18/09/15 01:19 AM
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You can't keep a thought straight in your head can you? We agree that there is no evidence that sex makes a person a better engineer or teacher. We agree that the directly observable "Irish need not apply" types of gender discrimination don't happen. The only issue your having is that our tools for determining what is or is not discrimination are not accurate enough for your liking. Men are more drawn to STEM and women more drawn to teaching. The issue your having is that this non-discriminatory…
/r/MensRights17/09/15 01:36 AM
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LOL. So, your problem isn't with the method. It's that the measuring tools are fairly inaccurate. Other things can be measured more accurately with different tools, therefore discrimination doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 11:13 PM
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Pull your head out of your ass. No one is talking about enforcing quotas. Quotas are bad. Incentive programs done by private individuals/firms are a different story. Also, not everything is directly observable. We have no DIRECT observations of gravity. By your standards we can't show GRAVITY exists. We know gravity exists by it's affects on objects. When things fall down we know it's gravity at work. The forms of discrimination that are direct and directly observable have been mostly removed fr…
/r/MensRights16/09/15 10:01 PM
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Discrimination today doesn't look like discrimination in the 1950's. Businesses don't hang signs in their windows says "Help wanted, Irish need not apply" Discrimination today is much more subtle. The gender ratio in teaching does not reflect society at large. While there is no blatant discrimination against hiring male teachers for younger students, the gender ratio is so far off that random variance doesn't explain it. What value do men provide in teaching that women do not? Can they teach wit…
/r/MensRights16/09/15 11:11 AM
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As with everyone else, don't pay for education if your not getting a magical piece of paper that makes you smart. My suggestion for free online schools is https://www.udacity.com/ On the general premise of giving a gendered discount, I don't have a problem with the idea. Women are under represented in programming, and if a private institution wants to get more female programmers this is valid. The issue is "What about the men". Programming isn't the only highly gendered field. If we are seeing 6…
/r/MensRights14/09/15 11:38 PM
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Well, she did stumble upon a solution. I just doubt it's the solution she thinks it is. End heterosexuality, end babies. End babies, end humanity. End humanity, end all the problems associated with humanity (Including "The Patriarchy"). While this would work I rather doubt that Genocide of the enitre human species is the goal she's after.
/r/MensRights13/09/15 06:38 PM
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While a person may be smart people as a group are dumb panicky animals. People as a group can only understand concepts as two or three word definitions. Feminism good. MRA are Anti-feminism. MRA bad. Lots of academic sounding BS is layered on top of this painfully simplistic world view, but that serves to make it more palatable, not more truthful. Most of what MRAs talk about get simplified to these two or three word sentences, and as two or three word sentences the ideas are bad. Women, being f…
/r/MensRights11/09/15 11:19 AM
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Good idea presented poorly. We should be doing more to teach boys how to do more of the housework. We shouldn't do this to end sexism against women. We should do this to end sexism against men. We should teach boys how to do house work so they know how should they choose to follow a non-stereotypical role like MGTOW or Stay-At-Home-Dad. On the flip side we also need to be teaching Girls they can be/do anything but not everything. To make it as a ladder climbing corporate ass hat, one needs a fam…
/r/MensRights11/09/15 10:42 AM
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Consider his argument for a moment. He's not advocating that proper investigations be done so that rapists are caught and punished. What he is advocating for is that rapists get shuffled around to different schools every semester so that they have a brand new pool of potential victims to assault. What he is advocating for is an increased level of anonymity that will serve to protect rapists and make campuses less safe. If "rape culture" existed, this is what it would look like.
/r/MensRights11/09/15 10:22 AM
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The definition of feminism is "The advocacy for women's rights on the basis of social economic and political equality to men" The word "equality" is in there, but look at it closer. Feminism in the advocacy for women's rights. Feminism is about advancing women. The basis of the advocating for rights for women is equality to men, but the foundation of feminism is the advancement of women.
/r/MensRights09/09/15 10:52 PM
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Dear lord she's dense. Not all women are after sperm to make babies. 100% of women that go to fertility clinics for artificial insemination are indisputably after sperm to make babies. Now considering that we are ONLY talking about the subset of women willing to fork out lots of money to get sperm to make babies, arguments about how not all women want babies makes no sense. It is true that not all women want babies. Babies take a massive amount of time and a toll on career trajectory. When talki…
/r/MensRights07/09/15 03:58 PM
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The anti-feminism is here for a reason. You want to get DV shelters for men? Great, that's a real men's rights issue. Step 1 is disrupt/destory the current dominant social narrative on DV, feminism, that says DV is Violence Against Women. You want equality in family courts? Great, that's a real men's rights issue. Step 1 is disrupt/destroy the current dominant social narrative on the subject, feminism, that says men only want access to their children as means of controlling their exes. You want …
/r/MensRights07/09/15 03:45 PM
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Outdated and regressive, not aggressive. Men are still expected by society to preform the same gender roles, only more restrictive, that men in the 50's preformed. The gender role for women has changed dramatically since 1950. Trying to preform the interconnected interdependent male gender role for a female gender role that no longer exists is HUGELY problematic. Others have already defined your gender role for you. That gender role is an emotionless robot that provides for women and children wh…
/r/MensRights06/09/15 06:07 PM
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This is where semantics get sticky. The existence of gender roles is not problematic. The biological differences between men and women force the existence of gender roles. There are aspects of current gender roles that are outdated dogmatic and regressive. Gender roles can't be removed in their entirety as many feminists want, gender roles can be updated to function properly in the 21st century.
/r/MensRights06/09/15 04:11 PM
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So, if you place the same gender restrictions on boys that girls face without removing the gender restrictions they face because they are boys it's unfair. Who could have possibly guessed such a thing. Tell girls that only boys are allowed to play with dolls and what they think about not being allowed to be active parents, you will get a very similar reaction. Girls should have the same opportunity as boys. This is necessary but not sufficient for gender equality. Boys must also have the same op…
/r/MensRights06/09/15 01:13 PM
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Men are not OPPRESSED. There is a strong claim that men are disadvantaged, but the claim of oppression is dramatically overstating the situation. Slaves where oppressed. Slaves where locked in chains and forced to work at gun point. Slaves where denied the benefits of their labors and freedom to choose. Men are not in that situation. Just look at your concept for the decline of civilizations. Men, not having the benefit of sex, CHOOSE to work a minimal amount. Men have the option to opt out and …
/r/MensRights06/09/15 12:54 PM
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The difference is simple. Men's Rights attempts to address gender issues from a non-sexist point of view. With non-sexist being not benevolently sexist or hostile sexism. Men's Lib is attempting to address gender issues from a distinctly sexist though benevolently sexist point of view. And to reply to the comments in the thread linked. MRA do denounce feminism, but we do propose an alternative framework. Interconnected interdependent divisions of labor, not "Oppression" MRA do want to fix outdat…
/r/MensRights05/09/15 10:34 PM
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If you don't see a line between putting your hands on top of her clothes and putting you hand UNDER her clothes, why stop there. Why put a line between putting you hand on her ass and putting a hand on her shoulder? Why put a line between putting your hand on her shoulder and looking at her shoulder? Why put a line between looking at her shoulder and looking at her at all? We need these arbitrary lines to be drawn somewhere or there isn't a line between looking at a woman and putting your hand d…
/r/MensRights05/09/15 05:26 PM
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If by fondling, you mean grabbing her ass, then it is "wrong" but doesn't rise to the level of a crime until she says "No" If by fondling you mean putting your hands up her skirt, then that's a sexual assault even if she didn't say "No" (There was no interaction to interperate as a "Yes" )
/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:53 PM
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I was very explicitly clear. Shoving your hand down someone's pants and fondling their genitals IS sexual assault. What is situational and contextual is the kissing and grinding. Grabbing a woman's ass at work is a very different situation than grabbing a woman's ass in a crowded singles bar. Putting your hand down their pants is not.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:39 PM
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I have been in many fist fights in my life. Each and every one of them with out exception was an assault. The crime of simple assault. None of them where PTSD inducing, mind shattering traumas. To say a crime was committed, to say someone is the victim of a crime is a far cry from the fainting couch feminism versions of physiological trauma. Having your dick grabbed isn't some massive Earth shaking trauma. That woman IS a sexual predator. If she isn't prosecuted for her lower level offenses, sex…
/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:31 PM
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He does have the right to say no. Once he said "NO" she should have backed off. Just as I do with men, I'm giving the accused the benifit of the doubt. Being drunk she very likely misinterpreted "NO" as "No kissing", and tried something else. There is no dispute that a line was crossed. I'm just giving the woman the same benefit of the doubt I would give a man doing the same thing.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:24 PM
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Your missing the point. We need to recognize that it would be a very very bad thing to protect assassinations as "Free Speech". There is a history of using "Free Speech" to support, condone and incite physical violence. There is a kernel of truth to her position, one almost entirely obfuscated by her avalanche of BS. That kernel of truth needs to be recognized. We need to not be protecting assassinations as "Free Speech"
/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:19 PM
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A crowded singles bar is not a formal professional setting. A different set of rules apply when your at work at a law office and when your at a crowded singles bar.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 04:15 PM
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To understand MGM, it is easiest to compare it to FGM. The male foreskin and female labia are very similar. They both serve the same functions and have similar physical characteristics like surface are and nerve endings. Why is removal of the labia so damaging to a vagina? Why should removal of the labia be banned? These exact same reasons are why we shouldn't be removing the foreskin.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 12:31 PM
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You go to a bar like that to get laid. Her being aggressive and skipping the foreplay, jumping straight into making out wasn't sexual assault. Her grinding wasn't sexual assault. These are pushing the limit of what should be expected in that situation. When she shoved her hand down his pants, that was clearly and indisputably over the line. Shoving her hand down his pants was sexual assault.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 12:21 PM
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Hateful sexist bigots. When the KKK advocated for the exact same things along racial lines, we recognized that as hateful racist bigotry. Feminists advocating the lynching of niggers is no different than the KKK advocating the lynching of men.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 11:59 AM
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Silencing tactics like pulling fire alarms and death threats are "speech". They need to not be protected speech because their purpose isn't to communicate but to stop others from speaking or being heard. That pulling fire alarms and death threats stop others from speaking does not mean they are not speech.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 11:55 AM
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There is a grey area. Simple even if intentional mistakes like mis-gendering someone is not speech that should be censored. Direct calls for violence and communicating threats are. Between these two is language that dehumanizes and denegrates. The preachers on TV screaming about how homosexuality is an abomination and God Hates FAGs, the homosexual is a beast whom may violate your children.....These fall into a grey area. They are supporting an eviornment where violence is likely, but not direct…
/r/MensRights05/09/15 11:49 AM
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Section 2 of law 1 was amended to go into affect Jan 1, 2017. Law 2 goes into affect Jan 1, 2017. I can see the confusion here.
/r/MensRights05/09/15 11:40 AM
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Yes. 93.3% of people that penetrated by force where men. 79.2% of people that forced penetration where women.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 06:50 PM
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These are two different laws. It wasn't rewritten. So, law 1, 566.032, a 13 year old girl forces herself upon a 12 year old boy. HE is a rapist. Statutory rape in the first degree because HE had sex with another person under the age of 14. This law covers sex with actual children and carries a heavier sentence. Law 2, 566.034, This one covers people that are old enough to be sexual, but not old enough to really know what they are doing. It covers edge cases with the 21 years or old part. It does…
/r/MensRights04/09/15 06:42 PM
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What your talking about is language that should be censored. But lets look at why. Language advocating violence should not be protected speech. Support for lynching is not in any way comparable to mis-gendering individuals. Support for lynching is direct support for direct violence. There is no argument that communicating a threat is a crime that should be punished harshly. Her debate point was that mis-gendering is somehow as bad or worse than advocating murder and directly threatening to murde…
/r/MensRights04/09/15 06:23 PM
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I think your confusing "free speech" and "Protected speech". Silencing tactics like pulling fire alarms and death threats are "speech", and under completely unfettered speech of any sort they are "free speech". No one is saying that these things should be "Protected speech", protests and questions in the Q&A should be "Protected Speech" Going to far into "Free Speech" would result in the protection of death threats and pulling fire alarms. When advocating for protecting free speech, we need to b…
/r/MensRights04/09/15 06:06 PM
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The gender sentencing gap is probably the biggest issue. But that's the problem with addressing it. The issue is HUGE and multifaceted with connections to all sorts of generalizations and stereotypes. Addressing this issue will require massive amounts of resources that the MHRM simply doesn't have. By trying to address smaller issue, issues that won't have the massive push back, the MHRM is building momentum and establishing the infrastructure needed to tackle larger issues. Addressing the sente…
/r/MensRights04/09/15 12:07 PM
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Three of your points work in tandem. The big win will be removal of circumcision from insurance coverage. The cost of elective cosmetic surgery will dissuade most people from doing it. To get this procedure removed from insurance will require legislation. To get this legislation the AMA will need to start condemning MGM and saying it has no benefits and very real risks.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 11:59 AM
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I am fine with the restriction baring male nurses from labor and delivery rooms on one condition. That women are banned from some field of similar size and pay. If a restriction on females being EMT is put in place as part of the restirction on the ban of males from delivery nurses. If we are to recognize the lack of gender sameness in labor and delivery nurses, we should recognize the lack of gender sameness somewhere that males are preferred/superior.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 11:40 AM
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What your seeing is outdated labeling, not sexism. "Men's" cuts are for simple short hair cuts. "Women's" cuts are for more complex cuts on long hair. I am male, I also had very long hair when I was younger. I was charged "Women's" prices to get my hair cut because I wasn't getting a high and tight. The sexism that needs to be addressed isn't the pricing structure, but the labeling of long hair "Women's" and short hair "Men's"
/r/MensRights04/09/15 11:29 AM
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Threatening to murder people, calling peoples workplace demaning they get fired and such fall into more than one catagory. It is verbalizing threats or harassing. These behaviors are censorship. This does not mean they are not speech. These shouldn't be protected forms of speech, but that doesn't make them not speech.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 11:17 AM
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There is a point where "freedom of speech" does act as censorship. Just look at feminist activities. Pulling the fire alarm to stop someone from speaking is a form of speech. People standing up and shouting down a speaker is "free speech", it's also a form of censorship. Hate speech, real hate speech, like the KKK threatening to murder "upidy niggers" stops people from speaking. This is "free speech" but acts as very strong censorship. When it comes to debates like this, it's important to recogn…
/r/MensRights04/09/15 03:08 AM
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equality isn't sameness
/r/MensRights04/09/15 02:54 AM
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Football and sports like it teach boys how to channel their emotions to productive ends. Football doesn't CAUSE violence. Football allows for the expression of emotions like anger so that they are not bottled up to explode into violence at inappropriate times.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 12:29 AM
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Simply put, it's pointless. Feminism is anything and everything and all things and nothing and puppy dogs and Unicorns!!!! Any attempt to paint feminism as in anyway not the perfection that God looks to for inspiration will be dismissed as "not real feminism" or "but feminism IS addressing that"
/r/MensRights04/09/15 12:25 AM
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Nothing ever existed until it did. Just because it's not happened in the past doesn't mean it's theoretically impossible.
/r/MensRights04/09/15 12:19 AM
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Society can hold women to the same responsibility as it holds men. It just can't do so under feminism.
/r/MensRights03/09/15 12:56 PM
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There are two axis of gender equality. Rights and Responsibilities. This gives 4 quadrents of gender equality. Women's Rights, Men's Rights, Women's Responsibilities, and Men's Responsibilities. Futhermore gender roles are interconnected and interdependent. You can't change something for Women with out also changing something for men. A movement for gender equality needs to consider all 4 quadrants and advocate concurrent changes for both men and women. That all said, no the MHRM is not solving …
/r/MensRights03/09/15 03:46 AM
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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/health/a-brief-history-of-the-birth-control-pill/480/ After 2 years 1.2 million women where taking the pill. https://www.google.com/search?q=US+population+in+1962&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Population in 1962 was 186,000,000 Half are women so 93 million women Half of women are eligible, the very young and very old are not eligible. This gives us 46.5 million eligible women. This gives us 2.6% of eligible women where taking the pill, and that's two years after it was r…
/r/MensRights03/09/15 12:56 AM
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It takes a bunch of parsing, but somewhere in the range of 3%.
/r/MensRights03/09/15 12:34 AM
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That stat looks about right to men. But to understand WHY, we need context. The first year that birth control pills for women where available about 3% of elegable women started taking them. According to this study nearly 4 times as many men 11% would be taking "the pill" for men. In that context, that we can expect men to use "The Pill" at FOUR TIMES the rate of women, 11% looks perfectly reasonable.
/r/MensRights03/09/15 12:29 AM
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the main principles of jineology, which the Kurdish women's movement offers to the women's movements around the world. The term Jineology means "women's science". Upon closer examination of patriarchal system stages, starting with the Sumerian civilization, it is clear that the rulers, until today, have established their power positions initially in thought. I'm not seeing the distinction between Modern Western Toxic feminism and Jineology. They both say women do science different, better, than …
/r/MensRights03/09/15 12:21 AM
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If you want to counter feminist ideas like "Rape Culture", then references and descriptions of "Rape Culture" need to come from feminist sources. Debunking the Rational Wiki strawman of Rape Culture will do nothing to dissuade feminists from engaging in the rhetoric. As a related example. You can't disprove evolution by showing that the creationists definition of evolution is horribly dysfunctional.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 11:48 PM
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It's the same advice we give to everyone going to MRA events....Always be recording. The camera gives an unbiased perspective on the events. It doesn't misremember or selectively remember or have emotional investment in one version of events. Recording is a good thing.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 11:42 PM
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This is about as well documented as you will get. This is what wage discrimination looks like because Now hiring Men for 10/hour and women for 9/hour.. would be a really easy lawsuit to win and the practice would end.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 11:00 PM
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9.000 women qualified to participate in the class action lawsuit. 1,300 joined. Win the case or not these 9,000 women have properly documented wage discrimination. The burden to win the court case is much higher than what it takes to reasonably believe it's true. Also, I found this with 3 min of googling. I'm sure other cases exist.
/r/MensRights02/09/15 01:23 AM
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There are thousands of documented cases. An example is anecdotal evidence, even well documented first hand independently verified examples are still anecdotal evidence. Anecdotal evidence can disprove absolutes, but can't show frequency. http://www.sanfordheisler.com/cases/kpmg-gender-discrimination-case/ 9,000 examples of wage discrimination right there (1,300 actually involved in the case). This case was filed in 2011 and is still on going. While the wage discrimination has not yet been proven…
/r/MensRights01/09/15 08:51 PM
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Anecdotal evidence exists. I personally know of 3 examples of women making less than men for the same work and 4 examples of men making less than women for the same work. That sexism occurs on the individual level does not prove systemic or institutional bias. To determine if there are systemic or institutional problems we need to look at aggregates. Once parsed to compare "For the same work" the wage gap gets very very small (small enough it's hard to distinguish against noise).
/r/MensRights01/09/15 08:34 PM
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You are being over sensitive. The caption isn't saying "These are the REAL heroes of D-day." There is no shortage of respect for the soldiers that stormed the beach. There is no detraction from the valor and dignity of the MEN that won the battle. Recognizing that women also played a vital role in the war effort is a good thing.
/r/MensRights30/08/15 06:12 PM
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Proper funding for our schools so we can do stuff like update text books is very important. Trying to use the big dollar issue of text books to leverage addressing the penny issues distracts from the issues of school funding.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 08:48 PM
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10 billion/year isn't replacing every text book every year. It's replacing ONE text book per student per year. So any given text book would be replaced about every 7 years. Replacing text books on a 7 year cycle is more than reasonable, and that program would cost 10 bill/year. Also, I only agree that about 1/3 of what you posted is actually wastful. Once you pay a team to find and document these wastes, then a committee to decide if they really are wasteful, then the counter lobbying because th…
/r/MensRights29/08/15 07:07 PM
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My point is that wage discrimination against men or women is not an issue. Just because this bill isn't anti-male doesn't mean it's good or even benign.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 06:54 PM
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TL;DR version Women are like sex vending machines. Men need to pay real money for "kindness coins" to put into the machine and hope sex falls out. And Feminists wonder where "Nice Guys" get this idea from.
/r/MensRights29/08/15 01:53 PM
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On the legal side we need legal equality. Parental leave, but only for mothers, is not equality. We need parental leave for both parents, if anything a little affirmative action giving men more incentives to take leave than women would be in order. We need divorce courts to operate on the assumption of 50/50 equal shared parenting, not a "Primary Care Giver" model. We need programs and scholarships to get men into fields traditionally dominated by women like nursing and teaching and child care. …
/r/MensRights29/08/15 01:48 PM
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You've got issues with scale. I know 120,000 sounds like a lot to you as an individual, but it's not when talking federal government spending. The yearly cost to have a good textbook update program would be around 10 BILLION every year. We would need to find 100,000 cases of the Coast Guard patroling against party crashers or gov employees not doing their job to pay for text books. Your list is very much "We should spend a dollar to save a penny"
/r/MensRights29/08/15 01:37 PM
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Please, if your going to make counter arguments, counter the actual arguments. The Fair Pay Act adds a great deal of regulatory and reporting burden to Corporations. This is the downside of the bill, not anti-male. If the bill would do significant progress in closing "The Wage Gap", then it would be a cost worth paying. Wage discrimination is not a real factor in "The Wage Gap", so the regulatory and reporting burden placed on business will do nothing. Any candidate actually interested in closin…
/r/MensRights29/08/15 01:20 PM
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Your looking at the issue wrong. Forcing women to work the high paying jobs at gun point would close the wage gap, but it's not the ONLY solution. As MRA we need to be advocating for MEN. A different solution for the wage gap would be to get men all the "rights" women have when it comes to children. If we convince MEN to take time off work for parental leave and to choose jobs with the flexibility needed to be fully engaged parents and convince the career driven women to pick men that will be ho…
/r/MensRights29/08/15 01:06 PM
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"Friend Zone" and "Nice Guy" are a lot like "Patriarchy". They are used so much in so many different ways that they are functionally meaningless. These super duper mega giga overloaded words mean anything and everything and all things and nothing and puppy dogs and Unicorns. Any post that actually uses these words is pointless and meaningless because they are talking about ideas so broad they are all inclusive of everything.
/r/MensRights28/08/15 07:29 PM
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Feminism at it's core is the belief that women are well and truly inferior to men and because of that women need lots of help to appear to be equals. This is not an ideology I would support anywhere.
/r/MensRights28/08/15 02:55 AM
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Schaffly being a feminist is a bit of a fuzzy issue. She never self identified as a feminist. The feminist movement never recognized her as a feminists. But that's not the whole story. She is the founder of modern feminism. After her defeat of ERA feminists realized that actual equality was no longer a good selling point to get backing and support. What got backing and support was playing the victim and benefits for women. The fainting couch feminism we see dominating today is a direct result of…
/r/MensRights27/08/15 01:19 AM
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LOL Angry phone calls from a dozen women > thousands of men standing on the tracks to blockade trains!!!!! Men have all the power.
/r/MensRights26/08/15 11:19 AM
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The internet wasn't a thing in the 60's. Most of the articles where never digitized. If you want to read them your going to need to go to the library and learn to use microfiche. Women breast feeding in public is not really an issue. It's a fabrication of an issue so feminism can pretend to remain relevant. To this end we get media coverage of every example of someone considering breast feeding in public bad. There are social norms associated with it as well. How do you think people would react …
/r/MensRights25/08/15 10:21 PM
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Let me fix that for you...... We have all at one time or another said things and done things that have not been sufficiently sexist, but in a benevolent way, to conform to the normalized sexism that denies women agency.
/r/MensRights25/08/15 11:45 AM
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40 years ago when feminism at least had one foot in advocating for gender equality, this issue was addressed. Most of the gendered laws prohibiting women from going topless where removed. Check the laws, in most places it's perfectly legal for women to go topless. The feminist issue is that women don't want to go topless. Women are making the choice, and women do have the choice, to keep covered. Women making choices feminists don't like is proof of women being helpless objects incapable of inde…
/r/MensRights25/08/15 11:39 AM
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Margaret Sanger was a truly deplorable person that attempted eugenics. Andrew Jackson was a truly deplorable person that very successfully waged a war of genocide. Despising planned parenthood because Sanger was deplorable makes no more scene than hatting the US because Jackson was deplorable.
/r/MensRights22/08/15 02:36 PM
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Feminism is anything and everything and all thing and nothing and puppydogs and Unicorns. If you want to find any opinion at all, it exists somewhere on a self identified feminists blog. The vastly overwhelming majority of feminists think the wage gap represents wage discrimination and want laws like "The Fair Pay Act" to correct wage discrimination. The reality is different pay for different work and the solution is not to look at how we can help women, but how we can help men have a better wor…
/r/MensRights22/08/15 11:13 AM
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Yes MRA are the ones proposing solutions. Feminists and government are not proposing workable solutions. The Government study you linked says women in the workforce has been a real focus of Government and growing the economy for more than 45 YEARS!!! Solutions available by looking at women and only women where solved decades ago. We need a report like that on MEN in the workforce proposing solutions like paternity leave and the exclusion of men from teaching.
/r/MensRights21/08/15 05:14 AM
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The people saying the wage gap vanishes when you adjust it for viable differances don't deny that there is some sexism going on to create the 78cent different pay for different work gap. We are the ones bringing up solutions to the different pay for different work gap. We are advocating for paid paternity leave. We are advocating for equal shared parenting. We are advocating for better programs to help men in fields like teaching and nursing. These kinds of activism is how the different pay for …
/r/MensRights20/08/15 09:59 AM
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Never argue, debate. People like that are never going to allow stuff like facts and reason change their minds. The only reason to engage is so that an audience can see both positions and make an informed decision. If you don't have an audience of people on the fence, then it really is pointless to engage.
/r/MensRights20/08/15 09:40 AM
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And a new Woosle is born.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 10:17 PM
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It's getting down voted because it doesn't feed the selective outrage machine. Having an optimistic approch to how well the change will be enforced doesn't agitate and infuriate the people who see the damage done before the change.
/r/MensRights19/08/15 09:08 PM
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Did you read the full comment? Because of major changes in VAWA, studies done prior to 6 months ago do not reflect the current situation. Let me phrase this same issue differently. How many more programs should we have for women in schools to correct the gender imbalance that existed in 1960?
/r/MensRights19/08/15 02:12 AM
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All the people with that attitude are not gone. Official policy and procedure and services offered have changed to comply with the nondiscrimination clause. The lady answering the phone doesn't want to help men any more or less than she did 8 months ago. Now there are beds for men and she knows if she doesn't tell men asking for help about them the entire facility gets shut down. I can't say for certain that shelters are complying, but that change in law is a big enough change that studies done …
/r/MensRights19/08/15 01:10 AM
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Sanders doesn't have any Men's Rights Issues on his platform. Either for or against. He is a feminist, and that's a mark against him. Overall every individual in this sub is going to have a different opinion on Sanders bases on differing views on non-MRA topics. What I'm sure most of us will agree on with regards to Sanders is PLEASE STOP ASKING!!!!
/r/MensRights18/08/15 10:02 PM
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I hate to say this. But meaningless. I have no doubt that this is an accurate report from 6 years ago. But things have changed. The 2014 reauth of VAWA explicitly made these kinds of discrimination grounds for revoking funding. Studies from prior to 2015 no longer reflect the reality of DV shelters.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:58 PM
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This is why I advocate for having her take the consent paperwork to a notary!!!! The notary can testify that it was not signed under duress.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:35 PM
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This is an issue the app solves. If she click's 'I'm Sober", there is very reasonable evidence she is sober. If she doens't click "I'm Sober", the app will say "You can't consent to sex while drunk".
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:32 PM
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We live in a world where that doesn't happen. We need solutions for a world where people are not hold responsible for their actions.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:29 PM
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It's already there. The consent app is an attempt to deal with it.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 09:23 PM
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Ethics and morality don't exist in a bubble. They are not laws set forth by a deity. The are an expression of social and cultural norms. The social norms that this ethical question is expressing is the view that men aren't really parents. That children are exclusively the purview of the mother. The ATM machine doesn't have the right to know if your taking money out for good reasons or to hire a hitman. It's function is to give you money.
/r/MensRights18/08/15 01:14 PM
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MGTOW and just laugh at their futile attempts to shame you into relationships.
/r/MensRights17/08/15 02:40 PM
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Marriage is women pressing men to play "Head I win, Tails you loose". The only way to "win" is to not play the game. MGTOW all the way. You've seen the reality of relationships. Close your eyes and hope for the best, and if it doesn't work out your screwed. This isn't a very enlightened way to approch life. Don't do it. Happy thoughts and positive karma only work when your not the one getting raked though hot coals in divorce court.
/r/MensRights17/08/15 01:59 PM
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I think this is a good thing. It's going to really get their actual message across. One in two is just so outside of peoples lived experience that they will look closer and realize what feminists are talking about. 1 in 2 or 1in 4 or 1 in 5, they are not talking about traditional understandings of rape where a masked man jumps out of the bushes with a tazor or the creepy guy at the bar putting roofies in drinks. These happen to 1 in 200 women over a lifetime, not just the 4 years of college. The…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 09:48 PM
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People commenting on this sub are more rational than average. There is a high correlation between more rational and less sexist. The preference for working with tools in no way correlates to more logical.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 09:23 PM
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Physically Men and Women faces very different problems that lead to the sexual dimorphism we see. Mentally, both men and women had problems to be solved and developed mentally to address them. Men to physically weak to skewer a boar with a pointy stick didn't survive to reproduce, women did. Neither men nor women stupid enough to set themselves on fire to stay warm survived to reproduce. The big mental difference between men and women IS NOT ability, but motivation. Men prefer working with "Thin…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 07:26 PM
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There are biological difference between men and women. I'm not arguing this. What you said was the women are brain damaged by being female. This is quite very sexist.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 05:51 PM
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This sub is for current/ongoing issues. The problem is that people see older stories and don't realize they are older and/or already been posted 45 times and post them again. Old stories don't get recycled because we want to nurse old wounds and can't move forward. Old Stories get recycled because more people realize the importance of Men's Rights every day, and these stories are new to them.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 04:42 PM
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I was simply being as charitable as possible.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 03:05 PM
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So, they rephrased "No Edge Cases" and think that solved the problem. "No Edge Cases" becoming "No Gray area" doesn't address the problem. Lets follow the logic. If someone is so drunk they passed out in their own sick, having sex with them is rape. This is a clear cut case. But what would be a "gray area"? If they are drunk, but not passed out. The "Gray area" doesn't exist so if someone is drunk, having sex with them is rape. But what would be a "Gray area" from this? If they had anything at a…
/r/MensRights15/08/15 02:15 PM
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When these laws where written 50 or 60 years ago, there where very real issues with Women and PoC getting into professional events because of discrimination. The events would quite literally be "No Women or Niggers Allowed", this was even worse than the current women in tech conferences where men are not explicitly excluded. When advocating against a law and it's current use and enforcment it's important to look back and see why the law was created in the first place.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 02:00 PM
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That isn't a little bit sexist. That is quite very sexist. Feminist does not mean woman. Woman does not mean feminist. Feminism the religious cult with it's inerrant dogma is where the hypocrisy comes from. Not women. Cultists tend to have this form of brain damage because cultists recute people with this kind of brain damage to be cultists.
/r/MensRights15/08/15 01:50 PM
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On the bright side, these articles are brining light to a very real issue of men's rights. If they can get the rape of men into the mainstream discussion on rape by shitting on the problem of false rape allegations I'm behind this. Hell, once the rape of men gets noticed, men filing false rape accusations against women will get the issue of false rape allegations the attention it deserves.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 05:01 AM
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The real question here is what counts as a false rape allegation. If we look at cases where the complaint is not only provably false beyond a reasonable doubt but provably intentionally false, that number is rather small. Only 1 in 2.7 million men will face this. If we look at cases where there was no malicious intent, the accuser was reporting in good faith but the claim is still provably fase, that number jumps from 2%ish to 10%ish. If we look at cases where the accused can't be proven guilty …
/r/MensRights14/08/15 04:56 AM
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So you think that questions for Clinton need to be significantly different than questions of Sanders? I doubt that. For any Democratic Canidate they just need to get phrased in a way that isn't loaded with "women evil" assumptions or the label MRA. What are some questions you would like to Ask Trump and Bush?
/r/MensRights14/08/15 02:53 AM
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You don't like Sanders? You don't think he's supportive of Men's Rights Issues? That's fine. Prove it. Calling him a socialist isn't going to do that. Work with other MRA to craft well worded questions that will expose his distain for actual Issues (Not the boogy man of "MRA") Your options are keyboard warrior of calling out MRA for having different political positions from you OR you can work to actual change by engaging in the political process and trying to get good questions posed to Sanders…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 02:20 AM
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There is little to nothing you can do to help him keep the kids, or to keep his money. The one big thing here is GET A LAWYER. After that both you and he are little more than spectators watching how bad the rampaging bull of divorce courts mall your friend. That doesn't mean there is nothing you can do to help. You can be there for him. He is going to need emotional support, a shoulder to cry on. Once evicted from his own house due to spurious TPO filings, he will need a place to stay. Once his …
/r/MensRights14/08/15 02:14 AM
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I really didn't even consider this. We know that women get a massive bias in their favor when it comes to arrest, prosecution, conviction and penalty when it comes to criminal courts. How this affects the reporting of female caused traffic accidents I never even considered.
/r/MensRights14/08/15 02:00 AM
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The problem isn't that insurance companies can discriminate based on gender. There are very real gender differences when it comes to the two major insurance purchases people make. Men are more expensive to insure when it comes to auto insurance. The specifics of why are irrelevent to the fact that men are more expensive to insure when it comes to auto insurance. Women are more expensive to insure when it comes to health insurance. Again the specifics of why are irrelevent to the fact that women …
/r/MensRights14/08/15 01:50 AM
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I do want Sanders to talk about Men's Rights issues. This petition is not the way to go about it. "Men's Rights" and the MHRM is a giant evil boogy man that wants to chain women to ovens. At least as far as most supporters of Sanders are concerned. As someone running for office the only possible position on the MHRM he can take is to attack us as evil woman hating religious nut jobs. This doesn't mean he can't address men's rights issues if they are presented properly. We can ask him about child…
/r/MensRights14/08/15 01:41 AM
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No need to be monsters ourselves. It is perfectly reasonable to feel empathy for someone whom get utterly humiliated like that. Feeling empathy for their humiliation doesn't mean you agree with their positions or that their idology isn't hateful sexist racist bigotry.
/r/MensRights13/08/15 09:11 PM
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Actual activism, real world activism, is very hard for MRA. When AVFM held a conference on Men's Rights, people called the hotel hosting the event and threatened to murder the staff. When GG tried to hold a meet and greet with CHS, someone called in a bomb threat. Talks on Men's Rights get protested by bigots that blockade the entrances and pull fire alarms. Yes, there is a lot of rage bait in this sub. But it takes passion, it takes anger to be willing to risk your life. This sub is building up…
/r/MensRights12/08/15 01:25 AM
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Do you have any experience with the Women's wash room? Is there a similar closet in the women's room? I have seen many buildings that put janitor closets in the washrooms, but then there is a closet in both the men's and the women's. If there is an unused closet in the women's washroom, then this would be an important point to bring up.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 11:05 AM
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Your reading implications that are not there. The video has both men and women talking about how it's important your partner consents. The video has both men and women talking about how it's acceptable to say "NO". Both male and female presenters using non-gendered language. This is not pushing the idea consent is something a man must get from a woman. That consent is presented as a two way street is something I really liked in the video.
/r/MensRights11/08/15 10:32 AM
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Lets address these comics. Comic 1: We have many highly electable women that are choosing not to run. Should Elizabeth Warren run, I expect a landslide. Because she has agency and can make choices for herself, she is choosing not to run. The same with women in Congress. Female canidates are very significantly more electable than male canidates. It's that women are choosing not to run. The wage gap myth. Well in 2014 that myth was already well debunked. Comic 2:Sexual Assault Hysteria is taking o…
/r/MensRights10/08/15 12:08 PM
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Clueless as ever. It is very true that more attractive people get more money and are more likely to be promoted. This is why men in positions where this is a real factor wear makeup. Men trying to get a little bit extra out of their appearance work on their appearance. The big difference between Bill's daily makeup and Hillary's daily makeup is that Hillary is aloud to talk about it. Bill is not. The social censure on Bill talking about makeup is "oppression of women"
/r/MensRights10/08/15 11:35 AM
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The entire concept of "The War on Women" isn't that we should take rights away from men, but that we need to protect and expand the rights of women. She is going to do stuff like protect abortion. Abortion is legal and has been legal for decades. This protection of abortion isn't going to fuck over men. She's going to get bills to address the fictional wage gap, this will just add overhead costs to corporations, not fuck over men. Men and the rights of men are not anywhere on her agenda. This wi…
/r/MensRights09/08/15 06:57 AM
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You need to ask non gender specific questions that could be interpreted as gender specific if she views the world through the lens of "The Patriarchy" "What are your thoughts on Paid Parental Leave?" This is a super soft ball question. If she answers "We need Maternity leave because....", then she's a crazy. "Should we have more shelters for victims of domestic abuse?" Super softball question. If she answers "We need more battered WOMEN's shelters", she's a crazy. None of her answers will give y…
/r/MensRights09/08/15 06:49 AM
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But But But...Puppy Dogs and Unicorns!!!!
/r/MensRights09/08/15 06:38 AM
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It's not that grim. Hillary doesn't HATE men. She is just convinced that a lot of problems and issues are radically different than they really are. She won't pass a law prohibiting men from studying STEM. What she is likely to do is get two or three "fair pay" acts passed that will do nothing to address wage differences between men and women but significantly increase the paperwork and overhead of HR departments. Hillary won't institute mandatory castration, but she won't do anything to stop the…
/r/MensRights08/08/15 10:27 PM
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But that is the question at hand. Is she claiming to be feminist because it's a politically expedient label to get women to vote for her, or because she actually buys into the BS.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 10:18 PM
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Yea, because who needs sources for "1 in 4 women will be raped on campus" and "Women only make 77 cents for every dollar a man makes for the same work" These are things everyone knows and shouldn't need sources.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 06:03 PM
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They are tripping over their own double speak. Most MRA recognize that it's important to have gender roles of some sort. Men and women are not groups with a distinction but no difference. Men and women are different. Most MRA don't support the traditional gender roles that held males to be disposable utilities that provide for women. Many feminists get lost when you talk about any sort of gender role and assume if your not infavor of pretending there are NO sex difference, the only other option …
/r/MensRights08/08/15 05:28 PM
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If you care to comb through the news stories of the past 20 years, gather the data from these 10,000 cases, sort orginize and parse this data to find the trends, write up a paper on this data, sumbit that paper for peer review to insure you didn't just pick the cases that fit YOUR narrative......then it would be a valid source. So, that is a massive pile of work. You should get started on it.
/r/MensRights08/08/15 05:19 PM
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Gender biases are real. There are gender biases that negatively affect women. Assumed ability in writing appears to be one. There are many of these gender biases that negatively affect men. These range from imposing leadership roles on unable and unprepaired men because penis to assumptions that children are unsafe around men. I expect that the biggest factor in this specific study isn't gender bias, but the author being known and known as sub-par. The greater response was primarily due to a dif…
/r/MensRights08/08/15 04:49 AM
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Yes, sources are needed. This entire "do you need sources for bears shit in the woods as well?" attitude is how we ended up with feminists screaming "Rape Culture". If they actually needed good reliable significant sources about the who what where why and how of rape, then the discussion on rape would be radically different. I will not sit idoly by as you get the ball rolling on "False rape accusation culture"
/r/MensRights08/08/15 03:34 AM
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I do believe that in the last presidential election 47% of the vote in Utah went to Obama. While Obama didn't stand a chance of carrying the state, there is less of a chance that they will actually try to succeed from the Union or something. So no state sponsorship. It is possible that a group will attempt rebellion and insurrection. Lets look at how that will play out. 500 people with assault rifles declare their independence. This inspires many thousands of people to join up. These thousands o…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 08:29 PM
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That civil war simply isn't coming. Leadership on both sides is telling everyone how they should live. No one on either side wants to be told how to live. No states are "red" or "Blue" just varying shades of purple. The most powerfully polar states are split 55/45. There are simply no lines that can be drawn clear enough to allow for the eruption of civil war. The closest we will get is race riots.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 08:16 PM
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This simply won't be an issue. NUKES!!!! We have Nukes. Any real attempt to invade the US won't get faught off by the national guard. Our drones, controlled by people with joysticks in air conditioned offices, will take out the transports before they ever make landfall. Our nukes will remove their production and infrastructure from existance. There is no need for "manly men" to put on uniforms and run around trying to stab people with their pointy sticks.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 06:33 PM
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Lesbian rape doesn't fall under "forced to penetrate" or "Penetrated by force" as such was not reported in the CDC study. This is a flaw with the CDC study, not my math. Also, it's best to not to pile several world view shattering concepts on top of each other. That 50% of rape victims are male is very world view shattering for most feminists. That 40% of rapists are women is very wold view shattering for most feminists. Because of this most feminists try to find reasons to dismiss the facts. St…
/r/MensRights07/08/15 04:34 PM
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We do need to start talking about the reasons for false accusations, but we need real sources. No AVFM and it's contributors are not valid enough sources for this. Attention? Profit? Really? I can't find the study now, but I read one done in the UK and nearly half of all false accusation in that study where third party reports. A teen daughter uses rape as an excuses for breaking curfew, the Dad then reports this rape to police. This was nearly half of the false accusations in the study.
/r/MensRights07/08/15 06:15 AM
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I do belive it's on page 26 or 28 of the cdc study. 1.2 million men where "forced to penetrate" in 2010. 1.2 million women where "penetrated by force". Equal numbers of male and female victims. Of the male victims 79% reported only female attackers. Some really basic math, and 40% of people that forced sex upon others are women.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 05:40 PM
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79% of rapes against men where by women. Half of rapes where against men. This puts 40% of ALL rapes, not just rapes of men, being committed by women.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:06 PM
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While it is possible for a woman to pick your name out of a directory and accuse you of rape, it is exceedingly rare. An alien invasion or Zombie apocalypse are more reasonable fears. Most false accusations come from regretting a real sexual encounter. So long as you don't engage in sex, then there is no real risk of a false accusation. The meaning of life isn't sex, you can live a happy and fulfilled life with out it.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:03 PM
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If you just read the brief for the CDC study it clearly states that 1 in 5 women will be raped and 1 in 76 men will be raped. This is a massive difference in rates. Add to that men being less likely to be on TV or other mass media talking about their experience of being raped the concept of a woman raping a man FEELS bizarre. 50% of rape victims are male and 40% of rapes are committed by women, but this is so far outside of the social narrative on rape that even official studies spin the data to…
/r/MensRights06/08/15 12:54 PM
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The questions like "Who's your favorite designer?" are common questions for actresses, just like men are asked "What's your favorite sports team?". The questions like "Do your boobs fall out?" are not asked unless it's a preplanned publicity stunt.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 12:48 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSWbTv3hng This hits the nail on the head, and it's funny to boot.
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:26 AM
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I had such high hopes for that sub. It really could have been something. It has been very interesting watching how fast a sub can fall apart. So here's some props to the mods who keep MensRights on track!!!!
/r/MensRights06/08/15 01:24 AM
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Who Stole Feminism - Christina Holf Summers This book details how where and why feminism went off the rails from what could reasonably be described as a human rights and gender equality movement to the bigotry we see today.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 11:25 AM
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I have some hope for that sub. There was a post about "Male violence", while they where far from as harsh to the OP as this sub would be they didn't fall into the "If you FEEL it's accurate as a woman then we must accept it as fact". This sub in passionatly anti-feminist. So long as they don't fall into the pussy patting of feminism, a sub that's explicitly not anti-feminism but still pro-men's Rights could do a lot to help inform egalitarians that have mislabeled themselves feminists.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 09:16 AM
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You touched clearly upon the real problem, misandry - the hatred of men and boys. Separating boys and girls into different schools won't solve this either. No solution will work until the "boys need to stop interrupting girls" and similar bullshit stops.
/r/MensRights05/08/15 05:36 AM
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The biggest Men's Rights issue in my eyes is getting Men's Rights Issues properly recognized as the human rights issues they are. The biggest Men's Rights issue is the prevalence of Patriarchy Theory and viewing men as oppressive overlords exploiting their male privilege incapable of having human rights violations against us as a class.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:23 PM
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Your simply thinking about it wrong. No "boys" schools. No "girls" schools. Have engineering schools with hands on teaching methods. Send students that want to be engineers to this school regardless of gender. Have Math schools and philosophy schools and care schools etc. Students should go to the types of schools where they teach with the methods that help the students learn best. Student learning methods DO NOT fall cleanly along gender lines.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:19 PM
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How she treats her children is out of his hands. Little to nothing can be done to change that. Even if by some mirical he convinces the courts to give him shared custody, the police won't enforce the ruling. Concern for the welfare of the child is a leash she will use to drag him around and milk him for all the money she can while still not allowing him any means to improve the welfare of the child. I understand that the concern is over the welfare of the child. That is a battle men lost 60 year…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 10:14 PM
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A bit of a loaded question. Every one everywhere does stuff in real life. Echo chamber doesn't refer to a lack of activity outside the echo chamber but a lack of new input into the echo chamber. Feminism is an echo chamber because any contradicting views are banned. Within feminist circle you are only allowed to talk about how great feminism is. This sub does not have that problem. It takes some rather egregious behaviors like advocating violence or participating in Doxing to get you banned. Fem…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 01:26 AM
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That's just it. It's not YOUR kid. It's her kid and ONLY her kid. This is how she views it. With the exception of child support payments, this is how the courts see it. This is how society in general sees it. Once the relationship is over it is her child and ONLY her child. The only way to win this fight is to stop fighting it. The only way to win this fight is to hand over complete and total victory and let them taste the ashes of their conquest. This isn't fair to you. This isn't fair to the c…
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:44 AM
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You make a school tuned to boys and a school tuned to girls. The school tuned to boys will attract more boys than girls, but there is no need to explicitly exclude girls. The school tuned to girls will attract more girls than boys, but there is no need to explicitly exclude boys. Gender exclusion is not a functional or necessary part of making schools/programs specifically tuned to the different learning styles.
/r/MensRights04/08/15 12:35 AM
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Yes, I am saying walk away from your son. I did say it is an extremely difficult form of activism. Yes, you will need to pay child support. You don't need to agree to visitation so your ex can have cost free child free time. She clearly wants to go the full single parent route. Let her. Even when she wants to get you involved so she gets a break, don't. Do what you can to insure that ALL of the obligations of physical care of the child fall on her and her alone. Don't agree to be a part time Dad…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 07:53 PM
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Despite feminist rhetoric of "The Patriarchy" most men are powerless in most situations. The little power you do have is not pulling government levers to help the situation, but your ability to walk away. So walk away. More and more men are doing so. More and more men are MGTOW if they know it or not. Walking away and not participating in the system is one of the hardest forms of activism to engage in because it really feels like doing nothing. Doing nothing is precisely the activism that's need…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 04:36 PM
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There is a time a place and a purpose to both vitriol and reasoned arguments. You SEE the vitriol precisely because it's serving it's purpose well. Calm reasoned rational arguments don't get much attention in isolation. Screaming vitriol does. You SEE the vitriol. While we very much need to keep a solid foundation in calm reasoned rational arguments, cutting out the vitriol won't make the MHRM more palatable to the masses. It will make us ignorable and we will disappear into obscurity just like …
/r/MensRights03/08/15 04:24 PM
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Racial segregation didn't mean "throwing blacks out of college". It meant "black" schools had much less funding and didn't do nearly as good of a job educating. Boys are behind in education. The solution isn't quotas for PHD programs or male only universities, but to create hands on teaching environments that appeal to young men. There is no need to exclude women from these programs, only to have gender blind acceptance protocols.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 03:56 PM
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Her believing in "The Wage Gap" isn't going to get you locked in the rape cage we call prison. She could still believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause for the real affect that it has. The real question is how far into the threat narrative of victim feminism has she gone. The core premise of feminism is that women are not people, but helpless objects acted upon by The Patriarchy. If she actually believes that, R U N!!! You need to talk with her about her views on Affirmative Consent laws and…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 03:55 AM
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There is an unspoken assumption. WHY is it wrong for two adults to engage in a sporting event where there is no doubt at all that both adults are 100% consenting and fully aware of what they are consenting to? Are men and women not equal? She wouldn't be matched up against the TOP heavy weight male. She would be up against someone that it's possible for her to beat. The reason it's "wrong no matter what" is the hystronics over "Violence Against Women" that has been blown horribly out of proporti…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 03:44 AM
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Scientifically verified downsides to gender segregation in schools? When gender segregation was allowed in schools which of the Ivy League schools where Women's Schools? None. Women didn't have access to the same levels of education that men did. This inequality in opprutunity is a very real and verifiable downside. Schools have been redesigned for girls. We need more active and hands on teaching methods to get the boys engaged in education again. This does not require the exclusion of girls fro…
/r/MensRights03/08/15 01:09 AM
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Just because answers are obvious to you doesn't mean that they are obvious to others. Trying to slow down enough to get slower individuals to understand something can be a challenge. This doesn't make their questions invalid.
/r/MensRights03/08/15 01:03 AM
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Paul Elam the person isn't solely responsible for how well known the MRM is nowadays. The "Fuck Their Shit Up" approch to debating the issues pioneered by Elam is why the MRM is now known. Paul isn't even solely responsible for the FTSU approch. He is just a solid front runner to attribute the approch to. We need to keep up the FTSU approch, mocking feminists and being anti-feminism because that is what is working.
/r/MensRights02/08/15 05:34 PM
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This is a great argument for different schools having different teaching styles. It is not a good argument for segregation. While it is reasonable to make broad generalizations like "boys learn better with hands on teaching by experimentation", this does not deny many many girls also learn better with hands on teaching by experimentation. While schools that teach hands on in workshops would be mostly male and schools that teach sitting still in classrooms would be mostly female, there is no good…
/r/MensRights02/08/15 05:22 PM
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Warren Farrel makes much better arguments. He is much smarter and better educated with a more comprehensive understanding of gender relations. He is more relateable and understandable. He is in almost every way the better communicator. This was nearly meaningless for 40 years because he went unnoticed. It doesn't matter how much better his arguments where given no one was reading his books. Paul Elam going ape shit is what has gotten many many people to read Farrels books and get influenced by h…
/r/MensRights02/08/15 05:12 PM
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Let me explain by analogy. Your on a road trip with some friends. You come to a fork in the road. The driver asks should we go left or right. Your response is "The government shouldn't force us to go either direction at gun point!!!!!!one!!!!!" I fully agree that anti-feminism is a good direction for the movement. This doesn't mean questions about allying with feminism are stupid. Both the MHRM and feminism claim to be about gender equality.
/r/MensRights02/08/15 04:53 PM
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"Separate but Equal" didn't work with racial segregation in schools. Do you have good reason to think that "Different but Equal" will produce different results with gender segregation? Gender integration of schools did solve many problems. It created others. The solution isn't to re-segregate the schools. The solution is to implement solutions that actually work, solutions like teaching girls how to say "NO".
/r/MensRights01/08/15 10:46 PM
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Warren Farrel started advocating for men under the banner of "men's liberation" as a feminist more than 40 years ago now. He got almost no where. It was Paul Elam and his "Fuck Their Shit Up" approch to the gender equality debate that has gotten the MHRM the attention it now has. Being soft spoken and trying to not step on toes has been tried and it failed. Screaming loudly and stomping on peoples feet is working.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 10:26 PM
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Can you cite some examples of "feminist concerns that are legitimate." At this point I don't know of a single point of feminist activism that has ever been in pursuit of actual equality. If you know of legitimate issues that are best addressed through the feminist lense, tell me about them so I can read up on them.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 10:21 PM
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Your a bit dense. There is no question that people can be equally mocked and that your well within your rights to do so. The question was not if there should be imposed censorship. The question was if the direction of anti-feminism is good for the MHRM. This is a valid question.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 10:15 PM
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You have enough experience to know what people are like. Women are PEOPLE. The problem isn't women. The problem isn't men. The problem is the institutions surrounding relationships. Women are people, this means women can do all the great and wonderful and creative and pioneering things men do, but they can also do ALL of the hideous, evil, twisted and simply stupid shit that men do as well. Because of the "Women Are Wonderful" affect, the inherent human evil present in all people gets overlooked…
/r/MensRights01/08/15 10:11 PM
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I misread. I was thinking there where two separate incidents that where being compared. One with a girl being bullied with words and one with a boy being bullied with physical violence. I agree, criminal assault is not a solution to harsh words.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 09:56 PM
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The issue is statistics. These are anecdotal evidence used to support stuff like the 1 in 5 stat or the 77c wage gap stat. IF men get comforted while women get laughed at was the reality rather than the exception, it would be an issue that needs addressing.
/r/MensRights01/08/15 04:14 PM
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The "Free Inhabitants" and "Sovereign Citizens" are as bad or worse than the feminists. I say sure, you can declare yourself exempt from the law, but you can't pick and choose what laws your exempt from. All or nothing. If you are not subject to the enforcement of laws to protect others from you, then you are not subject to the enforcement of laws to protect you from others. Have your drugs and refuse to pay taxes, but don't expect any sort of police investigation or trial when you get raped and…
/r/MensRights31/07/15 06:53 PM
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There is a great deal of sexism surrounding child care. These benefits are very often sexist. Just look at some random quotes from that post because women who sexist sentiment against working mothers No woman entering university plans to become a single mother It’s not just women living below the poverty line stereotypes about single moms Child care benefits are all about women women and ONLY women. Men are parents as well. Single fathers exist. The entire debate surrounding child benefits are s…
/r/MensRights31/07/15 06:46 PM
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Overwhelmingly yes, most feminists grew up mowing the lawn. Feminists oppose traditional gender roles for women, not hard work or responsibility. Girls being raised in a feminist hosuehold are not assigned traditional gender role chores, but they are assigned chores. This means an overwhelming number of feminists grew up mowing the lawn.
/r/MensRights31/07/15 01:27 PM
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Don't be a feminist. You have one trivial example of two lazy individuals. They are not leaders and sharpers of feminism. It is just wrong to try and generalize two followers to the movement as a whole.
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:37 PM
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Breaking the threat narrative of victim feminism IS step ONE for any and all men's rights activism. This is why we are so relentlessly anti-feminism. You want to advocate for the creation and funding of shelters for male victims of domestic violence? Great. That is a truly pressing men's rights issue. Step ONE, disrupt the threat narrative of victim feminism that has mislabeled Domestic Violence "Violence Against Women" so that the actual rates of violence can be considered. You want to end Infa…
/r/MensRights30/07/15 07:30 PM
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"Historically dominant" is BULL SHIT. By "Historically dominant" she means "Within living memory" In the 1950's there was a massive social change that pulled the rug out from under traditional female gender roles. This trivialization of "Women's Work" with household appliances like vacuum cleaners and Washing Machines is the "Hatred of women" that feminists rally against. Similarly with race. "White" where the primary slave race from 400BC to 800 AD. That is 1,200 years. The tans-Atlantic slave …
/r/MensRights21/07/15 09:35 PM
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Regardless of arrest or citation, there IS an incident report. If the police get called for ANY reason there is an incident report. This report is public record and will list him as having had the police called on him for domestic violence. Background checks will pull this up. With the current climate of hysteria over "Violence Against Women" and "Rape Culture" this incident report may very well mean he doesn't get hired for some jobs. You have done very real and long term damage to his employme…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 09:41 PM
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There is no call for the consent forms to be written by hand in her own blood. That's just creepy. The rest are good ideas. I didn't feel the need to include drug tests and a breathalyzer because of the inclusion of the notary. It is the notaries obligation to insure the person is in a state capable of signing legal documents/consenting.
/r/MensRights18/07/15 11:59 AM
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Many movements have been hijacked. A case and point would be Gay Rights getting hijacked by SJW. From Gay Pride Parades so excessive they where clearly designed to offend to actual violence in the Stonewall Riots the Gay Rights movement was all about being offensive and they understood that meant lots of being offensive back. Even for people that support Gay Rights, Gay Pride Parades are not for the feinght of heart. The SJW moved in and dragged their fainting couches with them. This is what hij…
/r/MensRights18/07/15 02:29 AM
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Feminism is not monolithic group think, though it often looks that way. Feminists of the past have often had very real greavences that they wished to have addressed. The right to vote was a very real issue for women's rights. I disagree with the way it was handled, but that doesn't negate that it was a real issue. Feminism was not hijacked by people pushing an agenda. What we are seeing is a foundational and ideological flaw in feminism. In the 60's and 70's this flaw was not as pronounced becau…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:19 PM
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It feels so odd for two people with a disagreement to keep saying to the other side "Good Point". This is the kind of conversation where people actually expand their understandings. (Just in case you didn't notice I agreed your point was valid in a reply to My-name-is)
/r/MensRights17/07/15 07:02 PM
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The video evidence won't be allowed. You will still get convicted of rape. When it comes to rape on campus the feminists have convinced the administration that the accusation IS the proof. They have convinced the administration that women are far to weak and fragile and naive to be able to stand up to questioning. The accusation and ONLY the accusation is ALL that is needed for a conviction in the kangaroo courts of campus rape claims. If you want to not be convicted of rape the ONLY way to do t…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 06:11 PM
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Keep in mind Demonspawn had a solid point. While these people where respected and important feminists 30 or 40 years ago, these people have solid claims to be feminists, they are not representative of the SWJ crowd that now owns feminism.
/r/MensRights17/07/15 05:53 PM
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Karen Decrow and Warren Farrel both spent time leading the National Orginization for Women. Christina Holf Summers published several feminist books. These three have dramatically better credentials as feminists than the people disavowing them. These are not just "some guy", but high profile leaders and thinkers of feminism. If the mainstream of MHRM moves so far to crazy that Paul Elam is unacceptably moderate....That would be the comparison. Not just "Some Guy" but the person whom is arguably t…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 05:16 PM
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thanks, corrected
/r/MensRights17/07/15 02:56 PM
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One copy for you to keep, one copy for her to keep and one copy for a trusted third party to keep.
/r/MensRights17/07/15 02:53 PM
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For the kangaroo courts to get involved there needs to be an accusation. If you don't want to run afoul of the kangaroo courts the best option is to not find yourself in a position to need to prove your innocence. This is why I advocate for a complex legal process for consent. If you do consent form, but not just one form. Have her fill out the form in triplicate and get it notarized followed by a waiting period when she again fills out the forms in triplicate and gets them notarized. Followed b…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 11:06 AM
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Christina Holf Summers identifies as a feminist and makes reasonable fact based claims and arguments for the progress of gender equality. She is liberal and progressive. She has been all but kicked out of feminism by the people talking out of their asses. Camilia Paglia also Identifies as a feminist and makes reasonably fact based claims. She has more of a trad con leaning in her thoughts. She mostly claims the label of feminist to piss off the SJW types. Karen Decrow made great points, identifi…
/r/MensRights17/07/15 10:23 AM
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Paul is a necessary evil. Actual change doesn't happen in a vacuum. MLK and Ghandi where great leaders, but their actions did not occur in a vacuum. Ghandi got a seat at the table because the Bengali Tigers where fighting and winning a guerrilla war against the British. MLK got a seat at the table because Malcolm X kept shooting the whitey that was sitting there. Paul is not Ghandi or MLK. Paul is much closer to Malcolm X or a leader of the Bengali Tigers. Paul is the unreasonable alternative to…
/r/MensRights16/07/15 01:21 AM
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There are self defense classes for men, they are called self defense classes. Having special classes that focus on how to defend yourself against someone a full foot taller and out weighing you by 100 pounds, a situation only women are likely to find themselves in, is perfectly reasonable.
/r/MensRights16/07/15 01:14 AM
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I would advise against. In 10 or 15 years when she realizes all she has done with her life is cook and clean and pop out a few babies, it will be your fault. You will be vilified as an evil oppressive shit lord that keeps women down. Feminism teaches us that women are not capable of making life choices. Women are not autonomous people that must live with the consequences of their choices. As the closest male, her regret over her life choices will be your fault and you will be paying alimony for …
/r/MensRights15/07/15 01:51 PM
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It's all about the money. It has always been all about the money. Now people are realizing that Feminism has the money, it's becoming the target.
/r/MensRights15/07/15 01:41 PM
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You see, Women are people. We should treat women like people. But according to feminism we shouldn't treat women like just any people. We need to treat women like retarded 12 year olds with emotional problems. Retarded 12 year olds with emotional problems are people, just like women are people. The reality isn't that reddit and other internet spaces spaces are anti-woman, but that these spaces are pro - treating women like fully functional adults with agency. There is nothing more terrifying to …
/r/MensRights15/07/15 01:09 PM
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Simply put, it's pointless. Feminists come in two varieties, "Puppy dogs and Unicorns" and "Hateful sexist Bigots" The Puppy dogs and Unicorns feminists have no time or care to actually look at feminism and understand. It's a pretty word to symbolize they want puppy dogs and unicorns for every one. These people are not going to read your post. They won't understand your post. They won't be inspired to read more on feminism. They will keep driving Little Suzy to Soccer and thinking feminism is al…
/r/MensRights14/07/15 02:00 PM
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Context matters. The context of man bashing of most of feminism makes 'cis-male' come off as derogatory. But it's the context, not the word it's self.
/r/MensRights13/07/15 08:06 PM
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Nope, no one else thinks that. The gender of the person running reddit doesn't matter one iota. The ideology of the person running Reddit DOES. Male or female a radical feminist running this site is a horrible idea.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 09:52 PM
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There is significant anecdotal evidence that women are hard wired more for dealing with people and men are more hard wired for dealing with things. But this is mostly anecdotal. The more free a country is, the more choice the people have, the greater the gender segregation. If your having an argument with some one that recognizes that the wage gap IS NOT "For the same work", then your already well ahead of where most arguments are. As for the social conditioning for certain occupations, this isn…
/r/MensRights10/07/15 08:46 PM
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I disagree. This is exactly the kind of post we should be cheering. It takes a reasonable rational non-gendered look at an issue. Having equality in paid parental leave will help both men and women. This post does a great job of showing that. If we want paid parental leave for men to be talked about in a men only context what we are promoting isn't gender equality, but feminism 2.0, feminism for men.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 08:33 PM
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Yea the fact that mutual rape is even possible under affermative consent standards shows how bad they are.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 07:40 AM
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http://harvardlawreview.org/2015/02/trading-the-megaphone-for-the-gavel-in-title-ix-enforcement-2/ Feminism is the establishment. These are the groups and organizations and lobbying efforts that are crafting both law and public opinion. All sides need to be considered when crafting law. So lets take domestic violence as an example. Domestic violence is a very real issue. Domestic Violence is roughly 50/50 with slightly more men being abused every year than women. The feminist campaigns of "End V…
/r/MensRights10/07/15 05:22 AM
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She could be 100% honest with you both being 100% sober and you could still report it as rape to the Title IX coordinator. The biggest stumbling block for you to be believed isn't that there where no lies or that you where sober or that you gave the appearance of consent, but that you are male.
/r/MensRights10/07/15 04:43 AM
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Polygamy is not a Men's Rights Issue. We shouldn't have a stance on it as an issue. Individual MRA can have their opinions as individuals, but the MHRM as a movement shouldn't take a position on the issue. We have enough on our plates with the massive crippling issues men already face
/r/MensRights06/07/15 03:41 PM
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Paul Elam is a necessary evil. Civil Rights movements don't happen in a vacuum. There is a larger context going on around them. While it is the non-violent well spoken Politically Correct leaders like MLK and Gandhi that get credit, they wouldn't have achieved anything without rabble rousing rebels. The Black Panthers and Bengali Tigers where the unreasonable alternative to MLK and Gandhi. What Men's Rights Advocates like Warren Farrel have been lacking isn't sound rhetorical arguments in favor …
/r/MensRights06/07/15 01:31 PM
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My point was that number is real. It's not just some made up or fabricated statistic. Unlike the numbers presented for "Rape Culture", there is an actual real foundation for the number.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 12:31 PM
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The wage gap is a fallacy, not a fabrication. There really is a difference in the average wages of an average man averaged over a year compared to the average wages of an average woman averaged over a year. This is not a fabrication, it's fact. The fallacy is that this average difference represents sexism, that women are getting paid less for the same work. The 77 cent number most often cited doesn't even consider the difference in hours worked, so it's clearly not comparing "For the same work"
/r/MensRights06/07/15 02:18 AM
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Thank you for the correction.
/r/MensRights06/07/15 02:11 AM
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This is very true. It does not justify different rules. If women want to claim to be professionals, they need to play by the same rules men do. If that's no water breaks or playing on real grass, the same rules should apply. There is no doubt that women's professional teams play on about the same level as high school teams, and that's not nearly as interesting as watching actual professional sports. This lack of interest means less sponsorship and that means lower wages. This is not good justifi…
/r/MensRights06/07/15 02:03 AM
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I see stuff like this and just laugh. In 2015 there are NO "Male Professional Teams" There are professional teams open to men AND women, but where sex differences mean women just aren't up to the competition. Then there are pseudo professional teams that are male exclusionary. Annica Patrick is a professional race car driver competing in the real professional sport. Venus Williams would be allowed to compete in the real professional tennis, but wouldn't be number 1, she would be ranked somewhere…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:55 PM
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This had some valid points. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. If women are equal to men, deserve equal pay to men, then the rules for men and women should be the same. It IS sexism to have different rules for men and women at the same sport. Allowing the cooling off breaks for women at Wimbledon, but not the men was clear cut sexism. Special rules to benefit women. It is no less sexism when the special rules don't benefit women, such as the FIFA having women play on AstroTurf rather th…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 08:38 PM
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The single most important thing you can do to make a difference is to LIVE the difference. The community services are for women only, volunteering there won't help the MHRM. Trying to start community services for men is a monumental task because there will be no funding and any non-anti-male message on gender relations will get labeled as "The hatred of Women". What you can do is Go Your Own Way. Live your life but do so without the restrictions and trappings that are used to bind men in servitu…
/r/MensRights05/07/15 09:57 AM
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Getting laid is easier for the 10% of the hottest and wealthiest men that get women's panties all wet. Women can ride the cock carrousel for decades. For average men making an average income the promise of a modest lifestyle doesn't attract any women.
/r/MensRights04/07/15 03:23 AM
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That's what I expected. Addressing gender inequality is an important thing to do. The big issue with addressing gender inequality in university is that only places like the physics and math departments are addressing gender inequality. The big picture issues of women outnumbering men by 50% on campuses nation wide gets lost. The only other point I would bother with at this meeting is making the distinction between equality of outcome and equality of opportunity. The physics department could very…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 09:42 PM
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Simply and bluntly asking what this field trip is meant to achieve is a worthy and reasonable question. Don't load the question with facts about male enrollment rates in other departments or scholarship information. Ask "What is the purpose of this trip?" Is this debate your department ONLY? Will you be in a room with a bunch of physicists addressing gender equality in the physics department? or is this an interdepartmental thing? Will the nursing and sociology departments be there to address ma…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 08:41 PM
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Ah yes, woman got a boo boo therefore OPPRESSION!!!!! Men and women are playing on the same fields, but it's some how wrong to treat men and women the same in that regard. As for wages. This needs looked into. The formulas and calculations for what is a fair wage is NEVER as simple as paying everyone the same. Women soccer players may be getting underpaid, but given "The Wage Gap" hystronics I'm inclined to assume wage differences are valid differences.
/r/MensRights30/06/15 08:23 PM
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The entire concept of a classification of people having "privilege" is feminism. Trans men do face human rights issues as men, and we advocate for ALL men.
/r/MensRights30/06/15 08:16 PM
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The gender roles did evolve though trial and error over a mellennia or more of human evolution. It is because the modern technological era that these gender roles have become outdated. Being outdated, very outdated and not helpful makes these gender roles regressive. These gender roles are blindly enforced by both men and women for no good reason (no reason to enforce biological differences), that makes the gender roles dogmatic. These gender roles place shit tons of responsibilities and obligat…
/r/MensRights30/06/15 05:41 PM
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Yes, MRA cherry-pick the most obvious cases to advocate about. That is how advocacy works. MRA are not drafting legislation or dictating University policy. We are trying to get people to recognize that Men's Rights Issues even exist. Because of this the really obvious cases like the child in Utah that was orded to pay his rapist child support are great cases to pick up the megaphone and advocate about. This is one place where only a fool can't see the difference between MRA and Feminists. Femini…
/r/MensRights29/06/15 05:07 PM
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Very few Men's Rights issues are a direct result of feminist activism. Men's Rights issues and Women's Rights issues both stem from the same place, outdated dogmatic and regressive gender roles. Feminism IS NOT the CAUSE of Men's Rights issues, it is the movment/idealogy preventing Men's Rights Issues from being addressed. There is a huge difference there that needs to be recognized.
/r/MensRights29/06/15 04:56 PM
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It will get to actual bombs quickly enough. If I thought that getting shot at would get Men's Rights Issues actual coverage I would do it. But no, the story wouldn't be "Silencing the oppressor class" or "Cis White shitlord males". It would be the courages women willing to risk it all to shoot at men with an assault rifle. Hell even if we make the news as Men's Rights Activists with a Men's Human Rights Message, Obama IS A MAN, we won't be telling him anything he doesn't already know. It's not l…
/r/MensRights28/06/15 04:09 PM
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The reply to that is complex. Try this. A Women Women and ONLY Women view of gender equality can at very best solve half the problems. Men's rights issues don't stem from Women's rights issues. Both Men's rights issues and women's rights issues stem from the same place, outdated dogmatic and regressive gender roles. The best way to consider these gender roles is NOT from a framework of "oppression", but interconnected interdependent divisions of labor. Pregnancy is a physical disability that wom…
/r/MensRights28/06/15 09:02 AM
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Much like providing proof of "God" to Dawkins, first and foremost what "The Patriarchy" is would need to be defined. "The Patriarchy" can mean any thing and every thing and all things and nothing and snakes and snails and puppydog tails.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 11:40 PM
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LOL if the activism your looking to do is making feminism look bad because they are calling in bomb threats and threatening mass shootings, your on the right track. This is what I said in the first place. If your goal is to advocate for men's rights having identifiable targets will just get bomb threats called in.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 11:31 PM
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Simply put there are two separate and distinct "Feminisms". There is puppy dogs and Unicorns Feminism. This Feminism can be anything and everything and all thing and nothing and puppy dogs and Unicorns. Every one like puppy dogs and unicorns. Few if any MRA have a problem with this overwhelming but silent majority of feminists. The second group of feminists are hateful sexist bigots. This is the group with media mouth pieces and multi-million dollar lobbying groups and entire university departme…
/r/MensRights27/06/15 02:08 AM
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Pull the stick out of your ass. Today was a huge victory for HUMAN rights. It's not going to misdirect the MHRM to spend one day celebrating a victory for human rights, even if they are not the specific rights for the specific groups we focus our advocacy on.
/r/MensRights27/06/15 01:14 AM
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If your intent is to actually get Men's Rights advocates together to organize activism, that won't work. Feminists will call in bomb threats and threaten mass shooting as they have done in the past. If your intent it to goad Feminists into calling in bomb threats and threats of mass murder as to undermine the messaging of feminism, that will work. Count me in.
/r/MensRights26/06/15 02:16 PM
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I disagree. Boys are fighting back, it's just in very non-traditional ways. Just look at the enrollment numbers. Boys are learning to avoid campus. Avoid campus avoid rape accusations. If it's worth the risk to even step foot on campus, many many young men are avoiding relationships and sex. Most MGTOW are not posting stuff about MGTOW online, they are far to busy going their own way. Young men are fighting "The campus Rape War", we are just doing it by leaving the young women sitting in the hoo…
/r/MensRights25/06/15 11:52 PM
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Don't argue, Debate. When dealing with bigots, they are lost to their bigotry. The best you can hope to do is convince the audience that they are wrong. The best tact to do this is spin their arguments into "women are weak" arguments. So your saying women's minds are so feeble that women can't distinguish a joke in poor taste from an actual rape threat and should be allowed to use actual violence against a perceived non-threat knowing full well that "Don't hit girls" will protect them from any r…
/r/MensRights25/06/15 11:41 AM
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Hey they phrased a valid complaint in a valid way. This is so very rare for everydayfeminism.com Now, if they would just stop advocating for a solution that is worse than the problem. "Can I borrow your car" "Sure" "Can I drive it 10 feet?" "Sure" "Can I drive it 10 more feet?" "Sure" "Can I drive it 10 more feet?" "Are you going to keep asking this all day?" "Do I have permitting to keep talking to you all day?" "God stop pestering me" --not having consent to use the car anymore it gets parked …
/r/MensRights25/06/15 11:28 AM
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It doesn't go without saying. In fact the assumption that males are not allowed in "family" spaces is so strong that I really appreciate the explicit inclusion of fathers.
/r/MensRights24/06/15 10:59 PM
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To my knowledge the first references to "Feminism" where in France in the early 1600's. Given 400 years of ignoring them didn't work and they didn't quite down, how much longer should we wait?
/r/MensRights24/06/15 08:34 PM
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Yea it got me at first glance. The gender neutral version is the one that was passed and almost ratified in the 70's. The sexist version is the 2013-2014 version, but they formatted it to look like the sexist version was the old version with a new and improved gender neutral version being whats up now.
/r/MensRights24/06/15 06:00 PM
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Many Many version and iterations of ERA exist. That you found two that are slightly different is not really worth mentioning. The earliest version of the ERA where drafted at a time when there was a valid case to be made that women lacked necessary legal rights. A version drafted in the 60's would have had real reason to specifically and explicitly include "women's Rights" (Note: In the 50's and 60's women didn't have the same legal rights as men, but didn't have the same legal accountabilities …
/r/MensRights24/06/15 05:28 PM
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The underlying idea feminists are trying to express with "White Privilege" is a very real thing. The issue is trying to address it in terms of "White Privilege" rather than discrimination against minorities. To call being treated as all humans should be treated "An unearned benefit", privilege, is to deny that being treated as a human is how humans should be treated.
/r/MensRights24/06/15 04:48 PM
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It will only get worse. It will get worse and worse and worse until she murders you. Not a Lawyer, not legal advice. On the "contract", it's worthless. Even if you went through all of the legal hoops of having a properly worded legal contract written up by a bar certified attorney and had the document notarized, it won't hold up in courts given your fleeing an abusive relationship. It's a pre-nup and not worth the paper it's written on. On how to deal with the abuse. The police won't believe you…
/r/MensRights24/06/15 04:20 PM
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This is why teaching WOMEN about consent was so affective. They where trained to SAY NO. The women who received instruction on how to say NO where much better at saying NO, so much better that they experienced half the number of "rapes". When women are taught how to recognize when a sexual situation is escalating and how to say NO if that escalation is unwanted, simply saying NO stops HALF of all "rapes" Women do think that body language and mind reading are sufficient ways to say NO unless they…
/r/MensRights24/06/15 01:59 PM
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From there he goes on to talk about how men work longer hours and generate more revenue for their firms. He talks about how men do more dangerous and dirty work. Men shouldn't get paid more "For the same work", but when looking at averages men should average higher because men are doing work that pays more, different pay for different work.
/r/MensRights24/06/15 01:14 PM
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Filing a police report in good faith over an actual crime IS NOT A CRIME. Running a red light is. Filing a police report in good faith should not be punished. The person filing the report shouldn't be punished because police didn't do their job properly either by lack of investigation or relying too heavily on the cloudy and distorted memories of a traumatized rape victim. The flaw isn't with actual victims pressured into pointing out the wrong person, but with the system that doesn't investigat…
/r/MensRights24/06/15 01:06 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSPRonx38gg Here is Warren speaking at the International Conference on Men's Issues Hosted by AVFM in 2014.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 07:04 PM
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First and foremost the book has good information. Good information is good information regardless of it it comes from a supporter a detractor or a neutral. Second, the book was first published 22 years ago both the MRM and feminism have changed significantly since then. Along with Warren's understanding of the current situation.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 06:25 PM
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In this context "false accusations" could be anything from an actual victim fingering the wrong guy to the police arresting and persecuting random black guy number 17 because the description was "black guy" to Suzzy getting caught up in a pack of lies to try and explain why she was out late. Very very rarely are there malicious false accusations. We shouldn't punish the claimants in the vast majority of false accusation because they really where victims of rape and the failing was on the part of…
/r/MensRights23/06/15 11:15 AM
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Not torture. It's consenting adults doing stupid things. He signed up for that knowing full well what was going to happen. It's consenting adults doing stupid things.
/r/MensRights23/06/15 12:33 AM
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Your misunderstanding me. These people exonerated where most decidedly victims of false accusations. What I'm saying is that this huge number of false accusations of rape does not prove that rape has higher rates of false accusations than other crimes. It proves that the Innocence Project and DNA testing are mostly likely to exonerate people accused of rape. This is very strong bias in detection of false accusations of crimes. Just as the Kepler telescope does a great job of detecting Large Plan…
/r/MensRights22/06/15 06:49 PM
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The Kepler deep space telescope is used to find planets around distant stars. This tool is best at detecting Jupiter sized planets very close to their sun. So far nearly all exo-planets discovered are Jupiter sized planets or larger orbiting very close to their suns. This does not mean that most planets are Jupiter sized and orbiting close to their sun, only that we have a detection bias for these conditions. The same is true for the Innocence Project. DNA testing with rape cases makes for some …
/r/MensRights22/06/15 03:19 PM
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If you understand what the study is actually looking at and what the study is really saying, then the study is accurate. It's not that the study is flawed, but it uses loaded language to enflame the rape hysteria. What the study is truly saying is that 1 in 5 women will be in an uncomfortable sexual situation while in college. Phrased this way the reaction is "Yea, so young adults are still discovering their sexuality". Phrased as 1 in 5 women will be SEXUALLY ASSAULTED, you know like raped, whi…
/r/MensRights21/06/15 11:36 PM
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But all the activism and advocacy and rules and everything else is about rape. How many "He Grabbed her ass" stories have you seen in the news driving the hysteria supported by "1 in 5"
/r/MensRights21/06/15 11:23 PM
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That's just it. Forced sexual touching IS Assault, but NOT rape. 1 in 5 college women will get grouped at a party. This is assault, this is sexual assault. Hell, I'm suprized that the number of women that get felt up at frat parties isn't higher. The problem is that the 1 in 5 "he grabbed her ass" is conflated with the 1 in 1000ish incidents of "he forced her to have sex"
/r/MensRights21/06/15 07:21 PM
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Very true men are not as interested in knitting and sewing and pottery. That "not as interested" is NOT 100:0. Some aspect of discrimination is occurring or the male participation would be above 0. If only 10 or 15% of participants where male, then I would agree any discrimination present wouldn't be worth addressing.
/r/MensRights21/06/15 11:10 AM
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There is no harm in encouraging the behavior. There is no harm in insuring every one learns the basic life skill of sewing. I'm not talking about implementing gender quotas in knitting circles to limit female participation to the level of male interest.
/r/MensRights21/06/15 11:07 AM
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Apples and Oranges. There isn't an ubiased competition to get your face on money that is based purely on merit. Picking whos face is on money is a painfully biased process that has little to nothing to do with the merits of the faces in question. Thousands of women have made the grade of "famous enough to be on money", it is bias and discrimination that keeps their face off of money.
/r/MensRights21/06/15 11:03 AM
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I can sum up 3/4 of that list really well. MGTOW
/r/MensRights20/06/15 11:36 PM
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So close yet so far away. She is so close to correctly identifying a real problem, realizes what she is about to say and backs off. Yes, it is almost exclusivly women doing stuff like sewing. Why? Discrimination against men keeps men out of the activity. Doing more to engage MEN in traditionally female activities like sewing and cooking and pottery would do so much more to redress gender imbalances than any amount of "Women in STEM" could at this point.
/r/MensRights20/06/15 10:41 PM
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Your trying to play semantics. There isn't a woman on any paper US money. Women have not been included. Deciding to correct this oversight is hardly exclusionary to men. There will still be 6 denominations featuring men. The proposal is for ONE denomination to feature a woman, not for all 7. If they make an all-woman short list for a second denomination, then you will start to have a point.
/r/MensRights20/06/15 01:18 PM
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I think this is great. US Currency is due for a make over both in terms of art and security. As we update security features in our currency it's a great time to update the art on our currency. There is no good reason to exclude women, many women have done great things. I do like the fact that they decided to use the 10, not the 20 as the feminists proposed. I would like to propose Grace Hopper as a candidate for the currency. She was a brilliant woman that did amazing things to advance computer …
/r/MensRights20/06/15 12:24 AM
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BEARD SHAMING IS REAL!!!
/r/MensRights19/06/15 06:22 PM
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The problem is not that fatherhood is bad. The problem is that your only allowed to be a father at the whim of the mother. Fatherhood is very rewarding and life changing. We need the laws and courts to protect fathers from having their children taken away at the whim of the mother. This is why men should walk away from the obligations of fatherhood, not because it isn't rewarding but because we don't have the necessary RIGHTS to father properly.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 01:02 PM
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Politics is always shades of grey. No doubt about that. Faux News on the other hand is as bat shit crazy as feminism, just about different stuff. Hell they turned rape histeria into an anti-government rant.
/r/MensRights18/06/15 02:11 AM
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The biggest thing MHRM is lacking is MONEY. NOW has tens of millions of dollars in funding for lobbing efforts and advertizing campaigns. The Same with RAINN and The Faucett Society. VAWA give BILLIONS of dollars every year to address women's needs and issues. Before you get your inheritance the biggest thing you can do to help MHRM is get your life sorted. I know that Letting injustice happen on your campus will be hard, but let that battle go unfaught so that you can get your degree and get a …
/r/MensRights17/06/15 12:21 AM
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Most of the comments on the video where very supportive. I'm not seeing where Feminists are being unwilling to listen to this guy. The title for this is attacking a straw feminist. If there are actual feminists condemning this guy (not just one nut in the comments), please link them.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 05:55 PM
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Her body, her choice. If she makes the choice to damage the kid before birth, that's her choice. The choice a man needs is how/if he will be involved. If she makes a crack baby, you need the option to not get stuck with it's medical bills.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 05:38 PM
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She drinks? Not your body, not your choice. Bad parents have existed for all of history. That she's a crappy mother is beside the point of Her body her choice. She may go on welfare. Yes, but if she is destined to be on welfare that's going to happen regardless. Its a question of if your also paying 60,000/year to incarcerate the sperm donor for being a "deadbeat"
/r/MensRights14/06/15 01:25 AM
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Can't know with out more information. Most couples in healthy relationships have sex 2-3 times per week. Is your relationship notably outside this norm? If your looking for sex at higher than normal rates, then there is nothing wrong with the advice she got. What you need is a fleshlight. If she doesn't want sex but once every other month, then she does have a problem with her libido and you should be pissed.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 12:22 AM
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Scott Walker is just sick. As a man I should have no say over what a woman chooses to do with her body. I need to not have the right to sue over emotional distress because of her choices about her body. What I do need is for the law to recognize it is EXCLUSIVELY her body, EXCLUSIVELY her choice, EXCLUSIVELY her responsibility by allowing for Legal Paternal surrender in cases where the sperm donor does not want the obligations of parenthood.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 12:07 AM
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Yea, lets take a really complex set of interconnected variables and make a sound bite out of it. Your involved with a lot of MRA groups in Uni....Please link I know of ONE MRA group on ONE campus. Can you link to the MRA groups in your new city. The MRA groups I know of all have prominent women members whom are respected and articulate. An underlying tone that women are just biologically less smart than men? How, give examples. What makes you think this is an underlying tone?
/r/MensRights12/06/15 08:59 PM
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Great, now boys won't even be able to use the boys locker room because the presence of penis will disturb the girls in the boys locker room.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 01:45 PM
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I did go look. Sanders is being light on the details. Paid parental leave for both Mothers and Fathers. That's all the details posted. How much pay is paid leave? For 90% of Americans anything less than 100% would be devestating. Is the 12 weeks a combined number for both parents? Is it 12 weeks for each parent? Will there be perks like in the Sweedish model to encourage men to take paternity leave? (The mother gets an extra week of leave for every week the father also takes up 6 weeks or someth…
/r/MensRights12/06/15 12:57 PM
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Looks good at first glance, but then so does most of feminism. I'm going to need some more details before I sign that.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 03:15 AM
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I loved how he kept saying stuff like "you don't think very highly of women do you?" in reply to her calls to coddle women.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 09:12 PM
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If you want to know how to get through to him, ask yourself how would I convince a member of the Westburo Baptist Church to support gay marriage. That's really what your asking. A religious zealot supporting their doctrine of faith is a religious zealot supporting their doctrine of faith. Is there a point to talking with him? Yes and no. Debate don't argue. You stand no chance in hell of un-brainwashing a religious zealot, what you can do is put them on stage poke them with a stick in the right …
/r/MensRights11/06/15 07:24 PM
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What your proposing is a direct fix. If people would get on board it would work great, but people won't. What I'm proposing is finish breaking the system so people will realize it's broken and get on board with your solution.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 12:28 PM
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Female sexual dysfunction is a real thing. It's great that there will be a pill to fix that now.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 01:16 AM
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Mostly because arguing against the feminist version of "equality" to any one that doesn't already agree is a waste of time. What we can do is show how feminist versions of "equality" are failing their own versions of "equality"
/r/MensRights10/06/15 12:11 AM
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Because the kinds of projects Intel will fund will be Tech based. There is very limited participation by women and blacks in the tech industry. Private corporations pledging support for minorities in that industry falls somewhere between pointless and a good thing. The question MRA should be asking is why are there not similar programs for female dominated industries? Where are the hundreds of millions of dollars for men, particularly black men to start up day-cares?
/r/MensRights09/06/15 05:46 PM
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Diversity isn't just diversity. Diversity of thought is very important. Diversity of skin color and/or genitalia does nothing to promote diversity of thought.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 10:40 PM
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Diversity is better. The situation is almost always 10 people with different strategies, and 9 of them are wrong. By having 10 people with 10 strategies arguing it out on what path to follow, it's much more likely that the one correct path will get followed. With group think it's just roll a dice and pray that the one correct solution is the one happened upon by group think.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 10:19 PM
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Did you explicitly tell her to stop touching you? This really is what it hinges on. If you never said "Stop" then your expecting mind reading. If you said "Stop" and she didn't stop, she crossed the line at 90mph and didn't even slow down.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 05:36 PM
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Guess I wasn't clear. First line of action is ask them to vacate the second seat. It's only if they refuse to be a decent person that being an asshole to them becomes reasonable. Also I agree, the man in the picture is not being unreasonable. To call his behavior problematic is the problem. If the person on either side of him wished to "claim space" all they have to do is uncross their legs. There does exist problematic behavior that could be called "Man Spreading". This behavior is exceptionall…
/r/MensRights07/06/15 03:01 PM
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This bill will do nothing to stop "GamerGate" that has sent out lots of messages like "I hope you get raped", but it will do a massive amount to stop "Anti-GamerGate" that has called in bomb threats and sent out messages like "I will fucking kill you".
/r/MensRights07/06/15 11:37 AM
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This has been my solution to "Manspreading". I've seen it twice in 2 decades of riding the buss (though not in NYC). Twice in two decades have I seen someone taking up multiple seats when the bus was standing room only. I as a 300 pound man sat in his lap, and he very quickly unoccupied his 2nd seat. Taking action like this is perfectly reasonable when it's actually a space issue. The problem with "Manspreading" is that it's not about space. Just look at the arrests, they happen after midnight o…
/r/MensRights07/06/15 11:30 AM
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As always Mike tries really hard but ends up not making his point well. Diversity in boardrooms is important, but it's a question of what kind of diversity. 20 people with radically different skin colors and sexes and sexual orientation engaging in group think is a notably less diverse group than 20 older white males each thinking and advocating independently. The diversity we need in boardrooms isn't diversity of genitalia, but diversity in thought.
/r/MensRights07/06/15 11:14 AM
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Well, that would make it relevant.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 10:14 PM
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She is Crazy, yes. But this has been established for a long time now. The fact that she did something stupid at a different time and different place does nothing to speak to if she consented to the sex acts with Paul. Bringing up and advertizing the video does nothing more than tarnish her image. The question of if a rape occurred is a question of facts and evidence. The video is nothing but character assassination, not facts or evidence relevant to her claim. (Note: Facts and Evidence relevant …
/r/MensRights05/06/15 05:06 PM
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Irrelevant. Unless it's a video of her having sex with Paul demonstrating that the sex act in question was consensual, the fact that she engaged in other consensual sex acts with other people is well and truly irrelevant.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 03:17 PM
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It's a really good answer to many questions.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 04:10 AM
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Please learn to read.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 04:09 AM
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Yea, Westros is an exceptionally brutal and violent place. In Westros there is constant and pervasive violence against people. Women are people.
/r/MensRights05/06/15 01:40 AM
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A standard of "a normal healthy rational person would consider it threatening" would be good. Basing it off of the claims of the accused means nothing is ever a threat. Basing it off of the feelings of the accuser means any communication regardless of how mundane could be a threat. Some objective standard is needed
/r/MensRights05/06/15 01:33 AM
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The problem here is shades of grey. Based off of the FB Posts they mentioned it really does look like he was communicating threats to me. Cutting some one up in to little pieces and asking if a restraining order will stop a bullet really should cause concern. On the other hand GG comments like "You need to get laid" have women running for their fainting couches over rape threats. SCOTUS just threw out the concept of "how the receiver feels" and replaced it with just as bad "What the sender claim…
/r/MensRights04/06/15 11:38 PM
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Her claim is the claim and that's not reason to believe it. She could have claimed Micky Mouse or Stalin Raped her. No reason at all to believe that either of them raped her, even if she claimed they did. Aspects of her claim are verifiable. That the claim was against a real person that really exists in proximity to her is a verifiable fact. That this point is true supports aspects that can't be verified. The claim was of rape. It has been verified and is undisputed that intercourse occurred. Ag…
/r/MensRights04/06/15 07:53 PM
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I know your not trying to play word games, but that's what will happen. Phrases like "Listen and Belive" have turned what should be a really simple point to make into a semantic mine field. Your not after word games, but it IS word games. Also, the contentious nature it's self is not reason to believe the rape accusation. You misunderstood me there. Your dogged pursue of "lots of reasons to believe" show this to be a truly contentious issue and that proves my original point of contentiousness ge…
/r/MensRights04/06/15 06:18 PM
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If I thought that there was a double plus good way of phrasing the reasons that you would understand, I would. The semantics around the reasons have been dramatically tainted and I don't care to try and play word games.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 05:33 PM
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Life is very hard for most transgendered individuals. What I'm going to say about Jenner should by no means be applied to the transgender demographic as a whole, only this one specific case. This looks like a publicity stunt to me. While I can't say for certain if Jenner is or is not truly trans, coming out on the cover of Vanity Fair screams of a publicity stunt. I rather expect that Jenner will now try to compete as a woman in sporting events to draw even more attention. Jenner still has the h…
/r/MensRights04/06/15 02:07 PM
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You have asked the same question 5 times now. I am going to give the same answer I've given 4 times already. I'm not going to waste your time or mine trying to defend an accusation that people with much better information than me determined to be more likely a false accusation than an actual rape. YOUR inablility to let this drop is why enough of a stink was raised that matress girl became national news.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 10:35 AM
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Exactly. It is the different factions arguing over their versions of "the truth" that makes enough noise to garner media attention. ISIS does this with the Quran. The Westburo Baptist Church does this with the bible. The Cult of the Flying Spaghetti Monster does this with it's blatant parodying of every other religion. You don't need to understand ISIS's interpretation of the Quran to understand that it's controversial enough to garner media attention.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 01:12 AM
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The point was the contentiousness of the situation. You are agreeing with my point that it was contentious. I'm not going to waste your time or mine trying to defend an accusation that people with much better information than me determined to be more likely a false accusation than an actual rape.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 01:02 AM
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This is one of the places feminism has gone off the reservation, I'm not going to help the MHRM down the same path. Gay Marriage is a gay rights issues that affects homosexual males and females equally. This is a Gay Rights Issue, not a men's rights issue, not a women's rights issue, a Gay Rights Issue. Mission creep will only destroy the MHRM. I personally think the entire institution should be abolished (and this would be marriage equality for homosexuals)
/r/MensRights04/06/15 12:47 AM
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Yea I'm wondering when the outrage machine (this is more yellow press than feminism) will decide that it's really "1 in 5 women are being raped RIGHT NOW!!!"
/r/MensRights04/06/15 12:37 AM
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You are rather making my point for me. The issue is contentious. The contentiousness of the issue is what garnered media attention. I'm not going to waste my time or yours trying to explain "the other side" of how this is contentious. The very fact that your badgering for "lots of reasons to believe" and trying to dismiss the reasons I present show precisely how and why the issue got big enough to garner media attention.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 12:31 AM
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LOL This is the reality of marriage/divorce for men, but dear God when it happens to a woman that's the end of the world.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 09:46 PM
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A great many specifics of her claim are verified and not contested. She and Paul did engage in sex, that is not disputed. That this and other aspects of her claim can be verified gives reason to believe her. It is worth noting that with all of the information both the school and the police found where less than 50% sure of her claim. The "lots of reason to believe her" didn't even get to a preponderance of evidence standard.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 09:23 PM
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Jon Stewart made a reasonable point. Now instead of being objectified as a success object Jenner is now objectified as a sex object as is the cultural norm for her sex. That she is being sexually objectified isn't some anti-male feminist talking point. The lack of consideration for how men are treated as success objects should be a MHRM talking point.
/r/MensRights03/06/15 08:26 PM
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This isn't a good answer. The reasonable estimates for false accusations are in the 40 -60% range. If the just selected at random, half of the high publicity accusations would be true. It is because controversial cases are what make it into the media. Had "Jackie" actually been raped at the fraternity as she claimed and reported it to the police, the men involved would have been arrested within days and convicted within a month. If her story was true then there would have been mountains of foren…
/r/MensRights03/06/15 05:35 PM
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A Great "Teachable Moment" for your daughter. Things like this are happening more and more. As an involved parent, you can help by making stuff like this teachable moments. You where denied service because of your gender. If something like this happens again, don't bother arguing with the shop. Right there in front of the attendant kneel down to be eye level with your daughters and tell them "This is what sexism looks like. I'm being judged on the basis of sex. We can't control how sexist other …
/r/MensRights29/05/15 12:59 AM
1

Lets turn this around. If you shouldn't be affected by someone's poor choices, you shouldn't benefit when others make good choices either. The entire concept of market economics is that other people's choices affect YOU. Job Creators, they make good choices that affect you. Should you not be able to enjoy the benefits of employment because the very existence of that job is the result of some one else making good choices. Should you not be allowed to stop at Chipotle on the way home and get a bur…
/r/MensRights29/05/15 12:44 AM
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If the argument is that outside of the US there is retirement age discrimination, the numbers from US retirement plans are irrelevant. You can make a great case that higher retirement age for men in Non-US countries is gender discrimination. This has nothing to do with Social Security. I'm not making the assumption that the current wealth redistribution is a good thing. I'm making the claim that it's working as intended. Showing that a wealth redistribution plan is redistributing wealth shows th…
/r/MensRights28/05/15 09:03 PM
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It's good to hear that people working inside the system are starting to see the problem. That you could even consider the father as being the safe sane custodial parent is a big step forward. While versions of this story get posted from the fathers perspective regularly, it is heartening to hear it coming from a CPS worker. Change is coming.
/r/MensRights28/05/15 06:05 PM
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These look like the graphs from Stefan's anti government piece on "Male Privilege". Simply put, It's BS. Retirement programs like Medicare and Social Security are by explicit design wealth redistribution. That these programs are working to achieve their explicit goals of wealth redistribution is hardly a mark against them. It is an undisputed fact that the average woman on average earns less than the average man on average (different pay for different work). That the wealth redistribution is wor…
/r/MensRights28/05/15 05:54 PM
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Yea, Mom is a 135 hour a week job, but women on average only put in 69 hours per week of paid and unpaid work combined. I think they've got something wrong, or women are really dropping the ball on child care.
/r/MensRights28/05/15 04:52 PM
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Yea, I know that she intended to spout the debunked "3% of rapists will spend a day in jail" myth. What she actually said was only 3% of rapists are NOT locked up. I'm musing over a typo, but it's still amusing.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 09:54 PM
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LOL this is actually very perfect. It so unintentionally makes the point of rape hystiria that it's actually profound. fight to change a frightening system where only 97 out of 100 rapists are imprisoned ONLY 97% of rapists are locked up. The world must be such an intimidating place with only 3% of male rapists actually having access to women to rape.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 09:07 PM
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In actual court systems the burden is still on the prosecution. The real courts are innocent until proven guilty. The decay of evidence over time hampers prosecution needing to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt much more than it hampers defence. If after 20 years the prosecution can prove a crime was committed beyond a reasonable doubt, I can see reason for this to be the statue of limitations.
/r/MensRights27/05/15 04:04 PM
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It is lower and middle class males that benefit from monogamy, not men in general. Polygamy benefits women and the top 1% of males. Lets look at Mitt Romney (he made his 2012 tax return public during his run for president) He made 25 MILLION dollars. Mitt could take 100 wives and provide each one with 250k/year standard of living. This 250k/year is much higher standard than most women could hope for earning combined family incomes with a middle class man. Polygamy is great for the men making 8 a…
/r/MensRights27/05/15 03:34 PM
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That is part of Udacity's course. While a great course, something every one should do, it doesn't allow for just watching the video. Do you have a youtube version?
/r/MensRights27/05/15 03:19 PM
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I think it will. This is pure speculation on all fronts. Other people may think, with valid reasons, that someone will try to turn this back on him. It is not a tin foil hat idea that someone is going to try and blame the father, I just don't think it's going to happen.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 09:10 PM
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My money is on Never. There was nothing that the father could have done better. Even the craziest sexist bigots are not so far gone as to think that a man who did everything in his power (legally) to save the child is at fault for the child's death. What I expect to happen is for this to get swept under the rug. The father won't get blamed, but any time this case comes up It will get pre-empted by "True, but women have it worse"
/r/MensRights26/05/15 07:48 PM
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The big difference between Radical and moderates in both the MHRM and Feminism is recognition that both/all genders face gender specific issues. Moderate MRA and Feminists recognize that both men and women face gender issues, radicals do not. Find a women's rights issues to speak about and include that in your rotation of talking points. One I talk about is that the presumption that the mother is the primary care giver and should have primary custody of children is placing unfair burdends of chi…
/r/MensRights26/05/15 04:55 AM
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I say good advice. If someone feels threatened or harassed, they should take reasonable steps to protect themselves. This is true even if the reason they feel afraid or threatened or harassed is absurd.
/r/MensRights26/05/15 12:11 AM
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You get it, thank you.
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:41 AM
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The concept that feminism accepts and even preaches that "All PIV is Rape" is hugely problematic. The specific post linked "All PIV is Rape, OK" is the one example of actually finding the limit of the radicalness of radical feminism. When advocating against feminism, using examples of feminism that even the radicals have rejected as being too radical detracts from the argument. That same idea is presented in many other ways by many other feminists that have not been ejected as being too radical.…
/r/MensRights25/05/15 02:30 AM
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Very true, but there is a line in the sand for how directly "All PIV is Rape" can be stated. "All PIV is Rape, OK" stepped over that line, and we should recognize it.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 11:14 PM
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That specific blog post "All PIV is Rape, OK", was so excessively radical that even radical feminists disavowed it. Context for both the Dworkin's and MacKinnon quotes blunt the affects of their "All PIV is Rape" claims. While these are "All PIV is Rape" claims, they are much less direct than the blog post "All PIV is Rape, OK".
/r/MensRights24/05/15 11:12 PM
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Umm well....The "All PIV is Rape, OK" post, while posted by a self proclaimed feminist, was ostracized out of feminism. This is the one and only example I know of where feminists actually stood up to a feminist and kicked her out of the club for being to radical. While it's just fine to define all PIV as rape within feminism, the line is using direct language. That one link isn't a good example of feminism.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 10:42 PM
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At this point I don't know what to expect. The threat narrative of victim feminism would have us in a "Separate but equal" gender apartheid by 2050. But this threat narrative of victim feminism is falling apart, Men's Rights Issues are making their way into the main stream. If this trend continues, than we will have a much more equal society in 2050, not gender apartheid.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 06:29 PM
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Because all the defense had to do was create reasonable doubt. There wasn't a video of sex. Each individual piece of evidence could have an innocent explination. Both his and her DNA was on a pillow. Well they both drool in their sleep, and she took a nap on the hotel bed while he took a shower. The video of her pulling up her pants? He's a teen that pulled down her pants as a very inappropriate (but not sexual) prank. All of the evidence was circumstantial.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 06:10 PM
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You can have TONS of evidence of a negative. Evidence abounds. You can't PROVE a negative because you would need every single possible piece of evidence and show that it is evidence of the negative. If you miss a single piece for any reason you have failed to prove the negative.
/r/MensRights24/05/15 05:57 PM
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I really wish there was more and better training on how to spot abuse. Differentiating between abusive relationships and someone just being shy can be difficult. On your walk down the board walk, you said Dad was taking pictures and smiling. This is the wrong person to be looking at. Where Mom and Sister Smiling? Posing for pictures in silly ways? Did Sister beg Dad for some money to get a soda? Abuse victims are generally to afraid to beg for money or act silly for pictures and would be smiling…
/r/MensRights24/05/15 06:51 AM
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First and foremost, are you sure that the Mom and sister are safe. Do you know how to spot domestic violence situations where your not seeing the actual violence? (Note: Mom and Sister are not more important than BF, but they are still in a domestic situation with StepDad) If there are not markers for abuse, just let the situation drop. It was a fight and your BF lost. That the fight ended with a choke hold doesn't mean BF didn't get some solid hits in, there could be bruised ribs. Domestic Viol…
/r/MensRights24/05/15 04:58 AM
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You won't have much luck disproving the 1 in 5 number. It has worked it's way far too deeply into norms. The scholarly peer reviewed studies will manipulate the numbers to get 1 in 5 including ever more innocent interactions to get that number. http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_report2010-a.pdf An argument you can make with peer reviewed scholarly papers is that rape isn't a "Women's Issue". Rape is a people issue with 50% of victims being male and 40% of rapists being female. Acco…
/r/MensRights24/05/15 01:06 AM
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It's a nice day dream. While getting tens of thousands of signatures could be a possibility, convincing hundreds of thousands of people to actually physically move is laughable. Then getting more than a million to vote for independence is just simply a day dream. Also, even if MGTOW convinces hundreds of thousands of people to move, the vast majority will be fleeing alimony and child support. They will be running away from obligations, not running to freedom. Lastly, even if the petition gets en…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 10:18 PM
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Identity politics is a huge problem. How I reconcile the problem of liking different parts of many different political Identities is to refuse such Identities. On the Left Vs Right, Democrat vs Republican single axis of politics, I am Potato.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 09:40 PM
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These are people opposed to men having human rights. What did you expect for a group self labeled "Against Men's Rights"?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 09:30 PM
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You could write for Jezebel. They say the same things.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 08:02 PM
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I've got a photo of my sister riding a dinosaur into battle against robots. It looks pretty real to me. It's amazing what photo shop can do, and yours is only text.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:59 PM
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Her false accusation was of making the con a hostile environment. Not a rape accusation, but a false accusation none the less.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:55 PM
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So your arguing "Believe the Victim", but this time it's not blind faith in an accuser because it supports your preconceptions. False accusers should be punished. Blindly accepting the doxxing by a third party is simply not justice. It is a method to punish with out trial people accused of making false accusations.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:53 PM
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How do you know he blocked them? They said so?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 07:44 PM
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LOL that is an entire field of Philosophy that I'm just not willing to even delve into on the internet. Parsing the differences between justice and vengeance is just simply not possible over the internet with someone already mounted up on their high horse of presumed moral superiority.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:39 PM
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So, you accept the conclusions of the doxxer to be true because they fit your bias. Sorry, I'm not going to make an exception in my stance against doxxing in this case. GotNews.com is not a reliable or trustworthy source.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:34 PM
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There are consequences. Dongle Gate was 2 years ago and Andria Richards still can't find work because of it.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:31 PM
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These are great reasons to lobby the policy makers to make it official policy to publish the names of false accusers as official record. As a general rule doxxing is bad. Bad people engage in doxxing. The publisher of the doxxed information is likely an untrustworthy person. When considering doxxed information you are running into a high likely hood of false allegations of false allegations. The moral stance against doxxing isn't that we shouldn't know whom the false accuser is, but that doxxing…
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:16 PM
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Doxxing is bad. This does not imply anything about false rape accusations. False rape accusations are bad. Two wrongs don't make a right. Doxxing is bad. Regardless of what is worse. False rape accusations are bad. Is this simple enough for you or do I need to dumb it down even father?
/r/MensRights23/05/15 06:04 PM
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Doxxing bad. Someone else did the doxxing, but you linked to it....It's still Doxxing.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 05:14 PM
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What you described was rape. Clearly and unambiguously rape. You said "Stop". She didn't stop. You said "no", but she escalated anyways. This is not some fuzzy situation where mixed messages applies. No means NO, and she didn't respect you NO. While I don't have this experience personally, you are far from alone. More men are "Forced to penetrate" than women are "Penetrated by Force" according to the latest CDC numbers.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 11:04 AM
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Can you link two cases where the accused didn't claim sex was consensual, but that the act never even happened? False rape accusations don't come from wanting to get ahead in Physics class. False rape accusations come from morning after regret and drunken mistakes and covering up affairs.
/r/MensRights23/05/15 12:08 AM
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For all the neigh sayers, this is actually a workable solution. When accused of the crime of sex while male, you have a solid defense of "Sex never happened". The kangaroo courts are problematic because they are working on the assumption that all sex is rape. If the aspect of the charge denied isn't the existence of consent, but the act it's self, this assumption is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 08:09 PM
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I say Keep up the good work. Making MORE MRA is exactly what I want to happen.
/r/MensRights22/05/15 03:13 PM
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This is how it should be. There does need to be a focus on girls education in developing nations. Education of girls is not seen as important in many less developed economies, and this conference isn't just about the western world. While the focus on girls education would be painfully misplaced in a western setting, when talking about India, Indonesia, Korea, or Pakistan a focus on girls is how one would insure equality. Let me state this again. For the western world, a focus on girls is misplac…
/r/MensRights22/05/15 01:45 AM
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Yea, and Feminists wonder where the "Women are bad at math" stereotype comes from.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 08:11 AM
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What you cite isn't Feminism in the movie. It's over done tropes from traditional gender roles. If you look back through history, you see this same story over and over and over again going all the way back to Greek Tragedies. What you are seeing is "The Patriarchy" that Feminists have been rallying against for 50 years now, not Feminism. Trying to put a different overly simplistic label on this charactature of society won't make things any better.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 06:46 AM
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This mattress is part of history. I could actually see it in a museum. While only time will tell if it get labeled "This is when Feminism Failed" or "This was the pivitol project that ended female oppression". Either way this mattress is part of history.
/r/MensRights21/05/15 04:19 AM
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Gay men are men. Just like Black men are men and white men are men and poor men are men and rich men are men. The MRM is The Men's Rights Movement and addresses issues faced by men. The MRM is NOT the Gay Rights movement, and we don't address issues faced by homosexuals. Gay men are men and we address the issues they face because they are men. The MRM is NOT the Civil Rights movement, and we don't address issued of race. Black men are men and we address the issues they face because they are men.…
/r/MensRights21/05/15 03:21 AM
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Two sources I know of called for a boycott. ROK (A PUA website that is explicitly not MRA) and Aron Claey (A radical MGTOW who is explicitly not MRA) These two explicitly non-MRA sources are what the Feminist Media sources as the MRA call to boycott the movie. Are there issues with the movie, sure. It's a plotless 90 min chase scene that is nothing more that explosions and car crashes. It presents men as little more than nameless faceless tools to be used up and discarded. As some sort of explor…
/r/MensRights20/05/15 06:20 PM
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Yep, one of the clues something is a scam is a defunct website. The "puppy dogs are cute" charity existed in the 90's. Their website is still up for some reason, but not updated since 96. I could collect money in the name of "puppy dogs are cute" and no one from the defunct charity would call me on it. If a charity is real, they will do at least minimal maintenance on their website.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:45 PM
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If their website and blog have been inactive for years, I wouldn't trust them either. In the modern world websites and blogs are important facests of public relations. Many Many people go to a group's website to find out more about them. If they can't maintain a website, they are not actually interested in advocacy.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:28 PM
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The issue isn't that the non-cis-male room exists. It is that there is not a cis-male room as well. I can fully understand that women are afraid of the overblown statistics about violence against women. Fear isn't a valid reason to violate basic principles of equality.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:13 PM
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Rape can happen in a marriage. The wedding night is a different story. Sex on the wedding night is part of both the custom and the law of marriage. There are quite literally signed consent forms and vows before God to prove consent on the wedding night.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 06:10 AM
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Recognition that women can a do commit domestic violence is a great thing.
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:55 AM
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1) Correct. The gender segregation of the work force isn't getting any better, so it's affects are not getting any better. "The Wage Gap" is not closing. 2) The higher paying fields also includes higher paying specialties with in fields. These higher paying specialties explains why some doctors make more than other doctors. For a much more in depth look, read Dr. Warren Farrels "Why Men Make More". While far from a magic bullet that explains the entirety of the wage difference, different work do…
/r/MensRights20/05/15 05:48 AM
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One clear set of rules for every one that does not make gender distinctions. Isn't this exactly what feminists have been fighting for? I think this is exactly the kind of dress code that every school should have. A dress code is necessary. School is not a meat market for finding hook ups. Attempts to make more open dress codes have been met with crys about how much more restrictive the girls dress code is since it's a list of "Do Nots" rather than a list of "Dos". Having a singlular uniform for …
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:38 PM
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That is actually rather enlightened for a feminist position. Men shouldn't have rights at the expense of women and women shouldn't have rights at the expense of men. This though is so much more reasonable and egalitarian than most of what comes out of feminism. So, yes, they can all be that dense because this isn't regressive feminism, this is enlightened feminism.
/r/MensRights19/05/15 05:18 PM
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Where are the contradictions? Women have rights. Men have obligations. While bigoted, there is nothing contradictory.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 08:44 PM
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Safe spaces are where children can get away from things that scare them and be protected by adults. This is true for all safe spaces, even the ones on campus. The ones on campus just cater to children in adult bodies.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 03:17 PM
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The information is out there. The feminist narrative is falling apart. Really the biggest threat the MRM faces right now is misdirection of the MRM. Feminism is collapsing very quickly. If we don't shift focus to be strong against tradcons, the MRM will be beating the dead horse of feminism while the religious zelots insure equality in oppression rather than equality in freedom.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 03:11 PM
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The exact same thing could have been said for Feminism after Senica Falls. Unlike white nationalists, Men's Rights Movement is tackling issues that almost everyone including our opposition recognize as real issues. The website and conferences provide a platform for advocacy. Bigotry of White Nationalism isn't catching on, but the advocating for actual gender equality of MRM is.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 12:29 PM
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It's not nothing, no one is calling it nothing. It's not half, the point of a hard cap is to prevent arguments over "half" of larger estates (the kinds of situations where alimony is awarded). It's not privilege, while a benefit it's not unearned. Dividing labor between the profit center and the cost center isn't a one sided approach to a relationship. So every point you made is simply wrong.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 06:29 AM
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Because she does represent a large portion of what people think about rape. It was a great thing that she was included with her real words. Any one trying to defend Koss will have a very hard time trying to do enough contortions to defend her statements here.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 05:20 AM
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Because the tradcons are opposing change. It's really that simple.
/r/MensRights18/05/15 04:30 AM
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So your arguing with me over the cap being 5 years at 50k rather than the no limit for 10 years originally posited because? Marriage isn't like a business partnership. It IS a business partnership. To say that the partner that managed the cost center should get nothing and the partner that managed the profit center should get everything is simply bullshit. To say that the manager for the cost center should be capped at their initial investment, the opportunity cost associated with not getting hi…
/r/MensRights18/05/15 04:00 AM
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Don't dispute this. Point out the argument that they are making. Women are not making less FOR THE SAME WORK. Women are getting different pay for different work. "The Wage Gap" is a myth, it's mythical nature is the very foundation of this argument. Just simply winning this aspect of the debate will be a bigger win than most of us get. You missed Veterinary Medicine. Veterinary Medicine is the MOST IMPORTANT one in that it show WHY. Male vets are after money. They are large animal and farm vets.…
/r/MensRights18/05/15 02:44 AM
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To say something is what it has been designed to be by highly trained professionals and refined to be precise over hundreds of years of trials is hardly "semantics and hypotheticals". Also, by brining up 2 working parents, you seem to have missed where I posited the cost of education should be an absolute maximum, a cap, an upper limit. The women I'm saying should get 50k/year for 5 years are the ones currently getting nine and ten figure settelments with six and seven figure maintaince payments…
/r/MensRights18/05/15 02:18 AM
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Nope same point, and your not getting it. A full time course load is about the same amount of work as a full time job. If your taking 14 or 16 the way you should to graduate on time, that's 50ish hours per week someone needs to put into getting the degree. Your trying to argue that already knowing the material and being well above the average for your school should be assumed for every student. That's just bullshit. While a full time job and full time course load is possible, grades will suffer …
/r/MensRights18/05/15 12:48 AM
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Just correcting language that you are misusing. "Pax Americana" is "The Peace of America" There hasn't been a real war in North America in more than 130 years since the end of the Indian Wars and there hasn't been a major war in 150 years since the end of the Civil War. This extended peace time where we keep all wars away from the citizens and industry is the "Pax Americana", not some plot to weaken the military.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 11:48 PM
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Agreed on the greater deviance. Men on average are not better than women on average, but you will see differences if you look at the fringe.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 11:38 PM
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So because your pursing a degree where you already know everything to get the degree, you just need the magical piece of paper that makes you smart, this means that no one actually needs to study the material or struggles to figure out the more complex topics. Already knowing everything, not learning the material, is base line for education? I think you need to look up the definition of education again.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 11:37 PM
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One of the things that made the Roman Empire great was "Pax Romna" or "The peace of Rome". There was very little infighting within the Roman Empire. All of the resources used to wage war between the tribes of Gaul and Germania where put to building infrastructure and preserving peace. This allowed for trade and business to thrive. To claim "Pax Americana" is to extol the virtue of "The peace of America" with a strong exterior military protecting highly efficient trade and production. "Weak and i…
/r/MensRights17/05/15 06:58 PM
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The 12 credit hours refers to the number of hours sitting in lectures per week. If you are getting the work for the class done during the lecture time, your classes are a joke. You can get degrees in "Women's Studies" or "Film history" by only putting in 20 hours/week and still be "Full time". A degree in STEM takes a great deal more effort.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 06:34 PM
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HA HA HA Lets do math. there exist 168 hours in a week. If you are working 60, that leaves 108. A full time course load for a useful degree takes 50 hours per week. That leaves 58 hours. If you sleep only 6 hours per night that's 42 hours. Down to 10 hours to budget. It takes half an hour to eat, 2 meals per day, 7 hours/week eating. That's 3 hours left to budget. Lets say 15 min commutes, home to work, work to school, school to home, 45 min driving per day. That is 3.75 hours. You are already 4…
/r/MensRights17/05/15 04:30 PM
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The "marginally higher" scores are meaningless. Well and truly meaningless. This margin is both well with in the margin of error for the study and within the limits of a standard deviation. People within a standard deviation are considered to have the same intelligence. While it's true that men get 1 or 2 points on average higher, this is within the standard deviation of 3 points meaning men and women have the same intelligence.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 03:54 PM
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This should be the hard cap. There is no reason at all to pay more than the cost of an education. Also a real degree is full time. If you working "full time" and going to school "full time" and raising kids....your not. You don't have a real job, you could only be taking joke classes and you would still be neglecting the children.
/r/MensRights17/05/15 03:24 PM
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He actually makes a valid point. We don't live in a puppydogs and unicorns world. Women should be aware of their surroundings and understand that there are risks and understand what these risks are. For women, the risk of rape comes from men. For a woman to not be aware of the risks and be not be able to judge the risks would significantly increase incidents of rape. Just look at the numbers. We have seen an 80% drop in incidents of rape since we started "Blaming the Victim" by informing women a…
/r/MensRights16/05/15 11:47 PM
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It is overwhelmingly the most common form of rape. It's something like 95% of rapes. But rape is so rare that even though this form is how rape usually happens, it rape happens to only 0.6% of women. That's very rare.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 10:55 PM
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I would like to see a hard cap on alimony of "The time and cost needed to get a Bachelors Degree". A hard cap of 5 years and 50k/year (but specifically adjusted every year as to allow for changing conditions) so that the lower earner can get the education needed to support themselves.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 10:31 PM
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That bit actually made me happy. While the holding onto the lowest of the low on rates of false accusations, the fact that the talking point of false rape accusations actually made it into the post is good. There are 4 full paragraphs on false rape accusations and edge cases. This is progress.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 01:16 PM
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The first post was up voted because misandry is a cultural norm. After you pointed out this misandry, her further comments got up voted because of tribalism.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 04:46 AM
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Politically threads are all over the map. Liberals Conservatives and Libertarians all post political threads. Trivial complaints get down voted because this is not feminism. MRA are not fighting for your right to never "has your feelz gots a boo boo?" Can you cite a thread in this sub that's heavly down voted and about a person struggling with acute injustice? Note:Trivial shit like "bus seats aren't wide enough" isn't gender based injustice.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 04:37 AM
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/r/MensRights isn't a safe space for her soft woman feelz. There is nothing that you can say that won't destroy her weak inferior mind. Any attempt at communication with her where she isn't treated like a small child wrapped in cotton wool will be "rape apologetics". It is best to just unfriend her.
/r/MensRights16/05/15 02:46 AM
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"Stop Mutilating infants genitalia" is not "The Opposite" of "Stop mutilating girls genitalia" We need shelters for abused men is not the opposite of We need shelters for abused women. Talking about the horrors inflicted by Boko Harma is not reactionary to feminists talking about the horrors inflicted by Boko Harma. If you want inclusive proactive and self-defining messages, look at the fathers rights advocacy. MRA are doing all the things you think we should be doing, but you hear about all the…
/r/MensRights16/05/15 01:20 AM
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The biggest thing they lack isn't some intellectual construct of healthy relationships, it is lived experience of healthy relationships. You can study music theory for decades, but until you sit down and play the piano or pick up a guitar, your not making music. The young men your working with have never even heard music or seen a piano, let alone had a chance to practice. The next massive hurdle is with whom will they be having relationships? Young women from these same neighborhoods have grown…
/r/MensRights15/05/15 08:07 PM
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Nope. The sub Reddit system exists for a reason. To break down and classify posts. There isn't just one giant feed for all of the Millions of Users of Reddit to prevent precisely what your advocating. The difference between Men's Rights and Feminism is Feminism doesn't want non-feminist thoughts allowed anywhere at any time for any reason. Moderation of this Sub is simply "not here".
/r/MensRights15/05/15 07:54 PM
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It is an intersectional issue because he is both black AND male.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 04:41 PM
0

Seen lots of "Man with boobs" in movies.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 07:05 AM
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"Man up and save the day" is a social/political message I've seen 10,000 times already. Exploring a topic like the humanity of "the bad guys" makes the movie something I've not seen ad nausium.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 05:42 AM
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I've not seen this. Do you have a link or something? If this is actually a topic explored even a little, it would make the movie worth seeing.
/r/MensRights15/05/15 12:59 AM
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My "mad-lib a movie" ideas are no more "mad-lib a movie" than "Max rescues damsels in distress". Lots of gender dynamics and politics of a post-apocalyptic world could be explored with the gender reversal of Max being the one in need of saving or the politics of holding scarce resources like water.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 10:30 PM
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But it's not. The problem with conservatism and gender equality is the religious fundamentalism. Libertarianism doesn't have the religious fundamentalism. Libertarians are more classically liberal than "the left" on most issues of race and gender.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 10:24 PM
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You are confusing conservatism and libertarianism. Two radically different things. On the traditional "left/right" scale, libertarianism is "up". While libertarianism has major issues it is assinine to call it "The far right"
/r/MensRights14/05/15 09:56 PM
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"Gender Equality" doesn't mean "Men in the Spotlight". Malificent was a great film. It focused nearly exclusively on female characters with the men being little more than props and background. Gender Equality isn't a zero sum game, or at least doesn't need to be. Given that the story for Mad Max movies can be summed up in two lines, why didn't they go with..."Max gets kidnapped by the raiders, when (Female lead) breaks him out a chase ensues" This has stronger females than what was done and does…
/r/MensRights14/05/15 09:51 PM
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Read that goal again. "Disbandment of "family' courts". This would require the DE-institutionallization of marriage. This would effectively legalize gay marriage. How many "right-Wing" are pro gay marriage?
/r/MensRights14/05/15 09:39 PM
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The previous movies didn't have feminist advisers to insure gender equality. This is a fair and reasonable basis to hold the film to a higher standard of gender equality.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 09:32 PM
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Sorry no. From what I can tell the story line is Max gets conscripted to save damsels in distress because penis. And the reason these damsels in distress are worth saving? Vagina. Sorry, no, yet another film supporting male disposability isn't on my "To Watch" list.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 08:53 PM
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With a marriage rate of only 52%, nearly half of ALL MEN are abandoning the idea of marriage. Nearly half of ALL MEN are on the MGTOW path, just few identify as such. Also, number of posts by a group does not signify the number in that group. MGTOW by and large are too busy going their own way to post about issues. MGTOW are not "far - right". MGTOW if anything as a group lean slightly left. Women are rational intelligent actors in determining their course though life. The institutions surroundi…
/r/MensRights14/05/15 08:47 PM
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He needs to develop his talking points better. He would have done much better driving the point "Starting points should be the same, not ending points" Wage Equality "Starting points should be the same, not ending points. When women and men choose different levels of involvement in paid work, this does and should affect ending points" Parental Rights "Starting points should be the same, not ending points. We should assume a starting point of equal shared parenting, but allow for negotiations for…
/r/MensRights14/05/15 04:26 PM
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So it doesn't matter where gender roles came from "White Male Dominance" is an issue because "White" and "Male" How is feminism not simple bold face sexism and racism? If I where to make generalizations about Black people or women on the basis of "Black" or "Female" you would have no problem identifying the generalizations as sexist and racist.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 06:23 AM
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Last thing on the wage gap. Please do more research before trying to talk about it again. The popular sound bites bear no resemblance to the reality of either racial or gender income differences. On "White Males". Looks like your moving the goal posts. My last comment was about the racism of labeling gender issues "White", not the sexism of labeling them "male". Are you conceding the point that "White" isn't really a factor in gender roles and feminism is wrong for asserting "White male dominanc…
/r/MensRights14/05/15 05:20 AM
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But gender and gender roles predate this White Dominance. Blaming "Whites" for gender roles normalized and codified by Jews and Arabs and Egyptians and Babylonians and Greeks and Chins and Ming and Japanese etc etc is simply wrong. Whites where the slave race for the powerful "brown skinned" Mediterranean Empires when Gender roles where first being codified into law and enforced. The White races at this time where mostly technologically backwards hunter gatherer tribes. That Whites got to drive …
/r/MensRights14/05/15 04:43 AM
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Thanks for trying, but nope. Feminism is founded upon the incorrect assertion that history has been dominated by white men, but there is a great deal more to feminism than "Feminism itself is nothing more than that". Libraries worth of apologetic has been written twisting facts to fit this incorrect assertion and claiming a great deal more than "white male dominance" in the process. If you look at history older than 1950, "White" has not been the dominant race. With roughly 8,000 years of record…
/r/MensRights14/05/15 03:41 AM
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100 years ago as a society we needed a gender equality movement. What we got instead was a women's rights movement, feminism. After 100 years of advocating rights and only rights for women and only women, the gender imbalance is horribly skewed. In a great many ways the "progress" made by feminism needs to be undone to advance gender equality. 150 years ago child custody defaulted to the father. Feminism changed the assumption so child custody defaults to the Mother. Gender equality would be 50/…
/r/MensRights14/05/15 01:56 AM
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I really don't give a damn what's between Senator's legs. If enough women run for office and prove themselves the best candidate by winning elections, great. We can see first hand that Congressional Dysfunction has nothing to do with the gender of individuals holding office.
/r/MensRights14/05/15 01:39 AM
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I disagree with your characterizations. Simply put having strong women in a movie doesn't make it a soap box of SJW. More often than not Strong women are the antithesis of SJW. Lets look at Magnificent. It was a great movie. It was well and truly a gender switch movie. It's primary nearly exclusive focus was on women, strong women doing stupid and often horrible things. Men in this movie where props and back ground decoration used to advance the story of Magnificent. To say Maleficent is misandr…
/r/MensRights13/05/15 12:03 PM
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The "meaning" of feminism hasn't really changed in 100 years. What has changed in the context in which the movement exists. To my knowledge feminism is rather unique in that it continues to exist long after goals have been achieved. In the mid 1800's the abolitionist movement sparked a civil war that ended slavery. The movement died DAYS after the end of the war, slavery was abolished. You don't see a movement to abolish slavery today. The activism of the civil rights movement in the 50's died o…
/r/MensRights13/05/15 11:22 AM
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The problem with prejudice + power isn't it's use as a standard but HOW it's used. Prejudice + power is a very simple formula. If a woman has the power to hire and chooses a woman over a man because prejudice, that is very much prejudice + power = sexism. What is a bad argument is that because the President of the US and the other top 0.000001% of the most powerful people are male it is impossible for a woman to hold any power at all let alone enough power to enact sexism or institutional power …
/r/MensRights13/05/15 01:55 AM
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Jack Adams is made specifically for the male anatomy, this doesn't mean women are incapable of putting on a jock strap or enjoying how it feels to wear one. While there do exist women that play FPS, they are about as small of a minority as women that wear jock straps. There isn't, and you agree there shouldn't be outrage over how poorly Jack Adams appeals to women. I don't see why a similarly small minority should be catered to in video games.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 06:58 PM
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LOL ok. If in the real world it took 75% or more of a person's total mass being cancer tumors to kill them, no one would ever die of cancer. While I find your answer laughably off base, it is a real honest answer and I can respect that. Brain cancer will kill you after converting only 5% or so of the brain to tumors. More than 50% of the "brain" of feminism, the academic feminists, have lost "the true meaning of feminism". Because of this I declared "real" feminism dead more than a decade ago.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 06:33 PM
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So What's the difference between Jack Adams and the latest FPS? Both are products made by men for men about men because men. Your assertion that video games need to be marketed and appeal to women is about like arguing that Jack Adams needs to have a women's line and that Tampax should make their products more appealing to men.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 06:24 PM
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You've got it now.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:52 PM
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IF men and women were fully interchangeable in the any role as is argued by feminists, the 300:1 ratio of women to men shows a great deal more sexism against men than the 5:1 ratio of men to women in STEM. No one is arguing that we need more male only scholarships to encourage more men into the male dominated STEM fields. Even non-gendered scholarships won't change the gender ratio in STEM. Feminists are arguing that we need Female Only or non-gendered "scholarships" to promote more women in the…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:40 PM
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I have made a flawed argument, one founded on gender sameness (not equality but sameness), to point out other flaws in the feminist argument. Gender sameness is a horrible foundation for an argument, this is the root of what you are disagreeing with. Given the assumption that men and women are the same to such an extent that men and women are fully interchangeable in parenting roles. Do you see a flaw in my argument? Note: I agree the assumption is flawed so don't bother disputing it.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 03:20 PM
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It sets the very feminist tone of "Women have problems and men ARE problems"
/r/MensRights12/05/15 12:16 PM
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It depends on the definition of "Sexual assault". If defined as "penetrated by force" these stats are correct. Very very few women whip out their dicks and force it into men. If you define "Sexual assault" as "forced to have sex", then at least 80% of assaults against men are perpetrated by women.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:54 AM
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How much marketing should Tampax direct at men?
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:13 AM
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This is a real question, not rhetorical. At what point would "the true meaning of feminism" be lost and feminism abandoned because the cancerous individuals within the community killed the host body?
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:09 AM
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While men don't have "The thigh Gap", we also store much less fat on our legs. For chafing to be an issue you are talking hambeast. Then if your muscled to the point of leg chafing, you've got an entirely different set of issues falling into the "over fit" category.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 07:02 AM
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MGTOW is Men Going Their Own Way. What is confusing about MGTOW for most people is our association as a group with no common goal or direction. The unifying factor for MGTOW isn't where we are going, but our flight from relationships particularly marriage. The institutions customs and social expectations around relationships have become toxic to men. Marriage and babies is the social norm. It is "Your way". Any direction a man takes is "His own way" with the ONE restriction of no marriage. There…
/r/MensRights12/05/15 02:57 AM
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That is rather the point of the suggestion. You seem to want to keep your association with feminism, but when it comes to talking about actual issues you think are important you are disassociating from feminism. If you as a feminist are not comfortable talking about women's issues in a feminist space, you really need to reconsider feminism.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 02:14 AM
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If, of course if. This is all just speculation. Given that companies have strong financial incentives to show no wage gap, I strongly suspect they will present the numbers in such a way as to minimize any pay gap that does actually exist.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 01:54 AM
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Stay at home dad would be the only SUBSIDIZED option. It would be the only option for the family to get two incomes while one parent didn't engage in paid work. The traditional family could function just as it does now with a stay at home Mom, and just as now, with no subsidy for making a baby. Advocating for paid maternity leave is like advocating for male only computer science scholarships. There is no shortage of men in computer science and no shortage of women homemakers.
/r/MensRights12/05/15 01:30 AM
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I disagree. McKins is correct. Fit/obese is a choice. The change from obese to fit isn't necessarily easy. Thigh chafe during long walks is an issue for hambeasts. However short walks will do wonders to improve the fitness of hambeasts. Carrying excess weight screws with all sorts of other exercises as well. It looks like the issue your running into is tring to transition from hambeast directly to fit. That won't work. Transition from hambeast to obese, then from obese to fit. Do the exercises y…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 07:45 PM
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What does "accept them as human beings." mean in this context? Because based of of what I've seen it means "Give me the female privilege of free stuff, love, attention, and acclaim because vagina. I don't care that you do this stuff for other vaginas because you want to stick your dick in them, I want this privilege without you wanting to stick your dick in me." The difference in how society treates HOT women and ugly women is sexual attraction. Fat/ugly women get treated like men because there …
/r/MensRights11/05/15 07:29 PM
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It looks to me to be a great way to dispute "The Wage Gap" by showing it's not "For the same work" by appearing to support the idea and getting the numbers "For the same work" published.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 07:14 PM
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Perfect, so very perfect.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 05:39 PM
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A) NO, I do not support universal paid paternity/maternity leave. As with many other issues when trying to resolve historical imbalances "Universal" isn't actually universal. While nominally Blacks have had the right to vote sine 1868, there is an ongoing struggle to insure their right to vote. Having the right to vote didn't stop poll taxes or literacy tests. If we are to correct the disparity between male homemakers and female homemakers than we need greater incentives for male homemakers. We …
/r/MensRights11/05/15 05:34 PM
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If you have a very dualist, black and white, one or the other mind set this sub is a very bad place for you. No overly broad generalized demographic can be properly labeled "Good" or "Bad". I mean trying to apply these labels to deeply to groups like NAZI, the KKK or the Bolshavics fails. The Nazi, while overwhelmingly "bad" did many "good" things. There are topics that the MRM is trying to give voice to. One of these is the "Women are Wonderful" affect. Women are not all bad, but we do post a h…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:18 PM
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By posting that, you have reverted to name calling, the one form of argumentation lower than ad hominem. So yes, mount that high horse and ride away. Also, I called you "Just smart enough". You are clearly smart enough to grasp what I'm saying, but the format and bias make communication of the concept exceptionally difficult. This is not ad hominem, but pointing at a failure of the communication platform.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 03:56 PM
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This is going to go nowhere. You are just smart enough to say really stupid things. These systems are much more complex that can be properly described on reddit. Trying to parse the difference between "A Republican" and "Someone supporting a Republic" is just simply to nuanced to do in this format for someone dead set on confusing the two.
/r/MensRights11/05/15 04:01 AM
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LOL right because the word "socialist" appears in their name that means it's really what the party is about. Just like the "Republic"cans really are for a republic, not an aristocracy, not a democracy, but a republic. Also, totalitarianism is an economic structure. Totalitarianism is "Total". The government, the dictator, rules all. This includes the economy. The reason "socialism" has gotten a bad rap is because when ever government attempts to impose socialism it quickly devolves into totalita…
/r/MensRights11/05/15 01:19 AM
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It seems we agree that the prison system is FUBAR. Given the high number of very mentally ill men in prison, not state hospitals, I have a hard time believing that there is unused space for them at the state hospitals.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 10:15 PM
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LOL yea that's about right. A false comparison based on a false analogy. The NAZI where NOT socialist. They where totalitarian. Jewish Communities WHERE socialist prior to WWII. This conversation is much like me walking into a holocaust memorial, talking about how great traditional Jewish communities where before being destroyed by the NAZI and being shouted down for being a NAZI.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 10:06 PM
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I am working on the presumption that she is truly mentally ill. How to treat mentally ill women that file false accusations is an important edge case to discuss. I am working on the presumption that she is truly mentally ill. Pointing out that she probably isn't doesn't change that. Pointing out that "menally ill" is probably just a lie to cover a lie doesn't change the need to discuss the edge case of mentally ill women making false accusations.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:40 PM
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I would be just fine with some kind of mental illness defense, even one that every single false accuser takes and is accepted by the courts. This would mean that police prosecutors and the courts would recognize false rape accusations as a crime. Mandatory counseling, community service and being listed in a false accuser database would be plenty of punishment to deter people from making malicious claims. This wouldn't be enough punishment to deter women from recanting when their false accusation…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:30 PM
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Then don't assume I'm making the same argument they are. She is a criminal. She should be judged. She shouldn't be punished in traditional ways, that won't help. It won't help her. It won't help the man she accused. It won't help her next victim (she won't be locked up forever). It won't deter others from making false accusations (her example will be dismissed because "crazy"). Now, let her walk around campus with the label "crazy", make her apologize to the accused and tell every single person …
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:18 PM
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A few of these facilities still exist. At what percent of capacity was your "Properly Funded" facility operating at? 150% 200% The vast majority of the mentally ill criminals go to normal prisons because there just simply is not space at the handful of facilities that would actually help them.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:07 PM
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If there where padded rooms where she could be commited for the next 5 years with out depriving someone else that needs to be locked in there more of the space, I would agree. The state hospitals, prisons for crazies, where almost all shut down 30 years ago. The few that remain house people much less fit to walk the streets than this girl. Involuntary commitment would be a great option if we had the facilities to do that, but we don't. Locking her up won't correct her behavior, she's crazy. Lock…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:02 PM
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Yes, I am working on the presumption that she is truly mentally ill. Some one that is mentally ill making a false rape accusation is an edge case that needs to be considered. (even if it's not truly true in this specific case) When feminists scream "Rape is Rape" to shut down discussion of edge cases of rape, it is asinine. I'm not going to sit back and just watch the MRM devolve into our own "Rape is Rape" with discussions of false rape accusations. How to handle edge cases of false rape accusa…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 05:51 PM
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This IS the kind of case that starts reform. All of the MEN locked up for being ill are just ignored. But bring a cute young white female to the attention of the media, people may care enough about the issue to make changes. Is this gynocentrism in action? Yes, 100 times over yes, this is gynocentrism in action. Given that gynocentrism is a given, there is no good reason to not use it to our advantage.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:41 AM
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If we still had properly staffed properly funded properly managed state hospitals (institutions for the criminally insane) I would agree. But we don't. The mentally ill don't go to properly funded state hospitals, they are locked up in normal prisons and doped into a stupor. Punishing the ill doesn't help anyone.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:28 AM
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In cases like this legal deterrents would be absolutely ineffective. They would do nothing. Crazies are not worried about legalities. There does exist a huge issue of separating the mentally ill from spiteful cynical abusive accusers. The spiteful cynical abusive accusers far outnumber the actually ill, but we do need to have exceptions for the mentally ill. This is a real issue, but as with male suicide rates punishing the ill doesn't help. I think the identity of the accused should be protecte…
/r/MensRights10/05/15 06:25 AM
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There does exist a very real 'masculinity crisis'. Men, particularly young men, are not filling the roles of disposable utilities to the extent needed to keep society functioning properly. This is a very real crisis and it's based off of the changing understanding of masculinity. Porn and video games are fulfilling the needs once met by being productive worker drones. The only real issue, and one that's easy to make, is that cause and affect are backwards. Rapidly changing gender roles with the …
/r/MensRights10/05/15 05:29 AM
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If we respond to cries for help better they won't need to be so loud as to destroy peoples lives in the process.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 05:16 AM
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We shouldn't be jailing the mentally ill. We should be treating the mentally ill. This is true for males and female. When someone does a "cry for help" we should listen and get them treatment. Just imagine how many young men's lives would be saved from suicide if we help people that cry for help rather than punishing them.
/r/MensRights10/05/15 12:03 AM
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There exists a great deal of information on single sex schools and mixed sex schools. While this article focuses on the benefits to girls, a great many articles focus on the benefits to boys. I simply don't see a men's rights issue here. It is perfectly reasonable that a person would do better with mental tasks while not in a sexual market place than they would at these same tasks while in a sexual marketplace. Split focus leads to worse results. I'm not seeing any problems with this assertion.
/r/MensRights09/05/15 02:18 PM
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This is more of a question of how "False Rape Accusations" is defined than if we should prosecute the offenders. "False Rape Accusations" is a label applied to many diverse situations from Mattress Girl to the UVA thing. From morning after regret to malicious accusations. In the truly exceptionally rare cases where police and prosecutors have solid evidence that the claims where intentionally fabricated with malicious intent, these should be prosecuted. Cases of mistaken identity or reporting a …
/r/MensRights08/05/15 11:24 PM
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God another fabricated shit storm. Just like the Chick filet thing with gay rights, this guy is trying to bank on the moral outrage machine thinking he will get away with it because he's not white. He's probably correct in that. I would be a lot more supportive if he had racial discounts for Black history month and Cinco de Mayo and the Chinese New Years etc. But he doesn't. This is nothing but a ploy to get a viral marketing campaign going.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:38 PM
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She "published" on what appears to be a personal blog. Feel free to file this under "this is crap" and walk away. Most stuff posted to personal blogs should be filed this way. However, some one talking on their personal blog about projects they are working on is 100% reasonable and legitimate. If this had gotten published in a peer reviewed journal, I would be behind you.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 05:02 AM
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The program didn't crash. It worked. It worked within what she deemed reasonable tolerances. I don't like Sim City 5 or Heinz 57 sauce. These are both deeply flawed products, but I can't do better so I don't complain about them.
/r/MensRights08/05/15 04:59 AM
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"Can you do better?" is only valid in select situations. This is one. The bias has been identified and fully recognized. Faults with methods have been identified and fully recognized. Problems with both the data set and the machine learning have been properly noted. All of these things must come before "Now, Can you do better?" and they have. Simply put if no one put up "bad science" for peer review and criticism, we would have no science at all. Her bog post and getting feedback is step 27 of 2…
/r/MensRights08/05/15 01:07 AM
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In her defense. Building up a large enough data set to actually be workable with "big data" methods is a challenge. She freely and openly admits her bias in this. The selection bias is clear. There doesn't exist a shred of doubt a pro-feminist bias exists, the question is can you do better. She used machine learning based of a rather small (1,000 is small for machine learning) sample of tweets that again had selection bias that is both clear and freely admitted to. Her computer only got 40-60% o…
/r/MensRights07/05/15 11:58 PM
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I see not rights issue here. This isn't misandry. It's not misogyny. It's not gender stereotyping. It's not anything. There may or may not be some small affect on young boys and girls by removing the labels. They removed both "boy" and "girl" labels so this will do as much to promote boys playing with other toys as it will girls. Really the biggest affect this will have is making it a little harder for me to buy toys for my sisters children. Having toys clearly labeled "for girls ages 2-4" lets …
/r/MensRights07/05/15 11:29 PM
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You have posted what you agree with and disagree with in other comments. Your thoughts are spread over 20 or so comments and show a significant evolution of thinking across them. If you could post a comprehensive list of where you agree and disagree and where you where simply unaware this would aid greatly in further attempts to communicate with feminists. Thank you for doing this. There are now more than 400 comments in this thread analizing even the small fraction of points that have been made…
/r/MensRights06/05/15 10:28 PM
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Not really. Either men and women will learn or the species will die out. I'm good with either option.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 04:47 PM
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Trying to mind read if consent is present ruins enjoyable aspects of sex for many many people, we just aren't allowed to talk about it.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 04:44 PM
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This is why I made a super clear distinction between using Enthusiastic Affirmative Consent as an individual moral code and having it be institutional policy. As institutional policy for determining rape, Enthusiastic Affirmative Consent is a nightmare. Really the point your trying to make is to split the hair of "rule of thumb" and "individual moral code with no legal backing"
/r/MensRights06/05/15 04:42 PM
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You don't always get what you want. Enthusiastic affirmative consent as an individual moral code solves more problems than it causes. Really your trading "many people don't want to communicate like this" for "many people don't want to communicate like this" because I for one really don't like trying to mind read if she is consenting or not. Enthusiastic affirmative consent is much clearer than vague innuendo and body language.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 06:34 AM
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Enthusiastic affirmative consent is a GREAT model to be teaching in sex ed. Enthusiastic affirmative consent as an individual moral code is a great way to ensure both parties well and truly consent to the activities. As an individual moral code taught in sex ed classes, Enthusiastic affirmative consent is the model least likely to result in miscommunications and/or morning after regret. The big issues with Enthusiastic Affirmative Consent isn't that it's slightly more awkward. The big issue is w…
/r/MensRights06/05/15 06:23 AM
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Request for the OP. Can you do a write up about what topics you agree with, disagree with, didn't know about, learned more about etc. One of the big issues between MRA and Feminists is communication. If you could help us understand where our communication is solid, where it is weak and where our message just isn't getting out it would help immensely in future attempts to communicate rationally with feminists.
/r/MensRights06/05/15 12:41 AM
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Is walking out an option? Really they are treating an accusation of a hug as if it where an accusation of sexual assault. Your work place is about to become a very toxic environment. Use up your sick days/vacation days and turn in your 2 week notice. Find a different job because you are no longer safe from false accusations where you currently work.
/r/MensRights04/05/15 05:01 PM
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We would need to send real firefighters as well.
/r/MensRights04/05/15 04:09 AM
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