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6

This is so well said!
/r/ExRedPill25/07/26 05:18 PM
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I don't know any women who expect men to provide for them. None. Zero. I can't even think of a time any man spent more than like, $50 on me on a date, and I have almost exclusively paid my own way on dates.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/26 10:23 PM
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I mean, beyond this, look at the men in our society who are considered the most successful, and/or the most "manly." Can you think of a single one who isn't a miserable bastard? I don't have any formula for a happy life, but the first step is definitely turning your back on any prescriptions for how people if your gender "should" be. Following any of those prescriptions may impress other people, but it will not make you happy, so what's the point?
/r/ExRedPill31/05/26 05:39 PM
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Putting aside the bigotry, this man is INCREDIBLY stupid and is completely unaware of it - he's so confident about the deeply idiotic stuff he's saying. I have trouble imagining that he's not this annoying in real life. One day, you're going to tell him about something you know for a fact and he's going to smugly insist that the opposite is true, and treat you like you're stupid for believing the thing you know is true. Get out before this happens!!!!!
/r/ExRedPill20/05/26 05:25 PM
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Yeah, it's just weird to me how people insist that someone's gotta be up and someone's gotta be down, and apply judgments about what's correct or "natural." You do you, OP, but many, many very happy relationships are focused on equality, not superiority, and people do what works for them!
/r/ExRedPill07/05/26 03:16 PM
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Yup! Lefty dudes still have a lot of patriarchal buttholery to unlearn, but i have managed to surround myself with men who do not wish to be misogynistic dicks and care about being better. We all have prejudices we need to shed and will make mistakes: the important thing is whether people are trying to learn and improve or leaning into bigotry and cruelty instead.
/r/ExRedPill03/05/26 09:32 PM
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Everything you're saying echoes that stuff AND your post history in incel circles is visible my friend Detox from this crap! Save yourself!
/r/ExRedPill13/04/26 06:14 PM
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OP, looking at your post history, you are spending way too much time sucking up online content that tells you to process your experiences in a particular way and makes it seem very rational to be this hopeless. That shit is lying to you and it is hurting you! Getting away from any and all manosphere content is GUARANTEED to make you feel less despondent and help you function better socially. Stop eating the poison!
/r/ExRedPill13/04/26 04:09 PM
3

I'm not sure if the person you're responding to meant this, but getting into theatre in high school is an A+ way to meet girls.
/r/ExRedPill13/04/26 04:05 PM
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The vast majority of dudes attracted to this dumbshit philosophy are never going to have anything resembling wealth, so the habits and propensities of the wealthy are a stupid thing for regular people to extrapolate life lessons from.
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 04:36 PM
7

This is some extra special stupidity right here for so many reasons
/r/ExRedPill01/03/26 04:32 PM
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One of the things that makes my husband irreplaceable is that he enjoys other men admiring me. I'm certainly no Instagram model or whatevs, and I've never been a skillful flirter, but on the rare occasions I get hit on, I tell him about it and we're both happy - we both enjoy the confirmation that I'm cute. A guy who's that secure about his relationship and can trust his partner that way is an ironclad keeper, and bragging to him about attention I've gotten is the opposite of treating him as rep…
/r/ExRedPill28/02/26 06:00 PM
1

What does this have to do with the topic of this subreddit?
/r/ExRedPill28/02/26 03:46 PM
3

All of this sounds quite reasonable... ...if you're very, very stupid.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/26 03:32 AM
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Men were pulling this kind of silliness long before redpill was a thing. It's just ordinary insecurity and misogyny - some men get very upset when a woman is better than them in any way, because having a category of humans who they are "superior" to is important to their self image. These are the same guys who will insist that any woman or minority is a "DEI hire," because the idea that people unlike themselves can succeed on their own merits really scares them. I've unfortunately encountered pl…
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 09:36 PM
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Likewise. I find men who are invested in any way in being "better" than me to be pretty repellant. My husband and I have different strengths and weaknesses that complement each other well. It's not a contest.
/r/ExRedPill18/02/26 08:48 PM
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Do you think building a relationship and treating someone that way would make you happy? Do you want a relationship built on manipulation and abuse? Would that make you feel good about yourself?
/r/ExRedPill17/02/26 11:41 PM
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Being awkward and nervous on a date is part of being authentic! As long as it's not setting the tone of the whole interaction, it's ok and good to demonstrate that you are human. There are some women who are total shitheads and will judge you for that, but that's good: you know you don't want a second date with her!
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 05:36 PM
7

So while you're interacting with a woman, you're continually worrying about what other men think of you? Do you care what she thinks?
/r/ExRedPill16/02/26 02:56 PM
3

Do you actually believe any of that?
/r/ExRedPill14/02/26 10:01 PM
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It also helps them justify the crappy way they already treat their wives and daughters, reassuring them that they're not bad people because misogyny is the natural order of things.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 02:59 PM
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Because it's fundamentally a male supremacist movement, and it makes them feel good about themselves. Weak, insecure people are susceptible to messaging that tells them that they are fundamentally better than someone else, and relieves their anxiety that they're not that smart or strong or interesting or whatever.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/26 02:58 PM
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Are you sure that those "harsh truths" are true? Do you see them play out in real life, or are you just hearing about them on the internet? The real world is pretty brutal and disappointing a lot of the time, but that doesn't mean every explanation for those things is true, even if they feel correct.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/26 08:37 PM
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Yeah, I'm a feminist who surrounds myself with feminists and I don't know anyone who would refuse to date a man based on him having a low-paying or low-status job. Women certainly exist who think this, but they mostly seem to exist on the internet.
/r/ExRedPill02/02/26 08:35 PM
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People are still paying attention to that dumbshit?
/r/ExRedPill24/01/26 05:46 AM
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That's not "oneitis" or "an addiction." That's having human feelings of attachment and sadness like a normal person. Nobody is immune to this and nobody should be, as long as you're not making it the other person's problem. Stop! Reading! Redpill! Garbage! It's taking a crappy situation and making it worse for you.
/r/ExRedPill22/01/26 03:51 PM
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Height matters WAY less in real life than online.
/r/ExRedPill15/01/26 06:18 PM
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Seconding what another person said above about the importance of social hobbies and other activities. This is your best opportunity to make friends with people of all genders who you have an automatic topic of conversation with already, so you can have the natural interactions that build community so you can meet women organically. Maybe not the women in the actual group, even - maybe their friend you meet at a party they invite you to. Also important: doing stuff you're interested in with peopl…
/r/ExRedPill31/12/25 11:03 PM
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It bums me out that this sort of thing is a problem. My husband and I point out attractive people to each other.
/r/ExRedPill30/12/25 05:48 PM
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How does this content feel like an appropriate fit for thus group?
/r/ExRedPill22/12/25 01:59 PM
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The realization that women don't all want the same thing from men is an important one. Keep following that track.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/25 06:35 PM
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It amazes and saddens me that any of this stuff seemed remotely plausible, much less true -- in order to believe any of it, you'd have to be very socially isolated. OP, I'm so glad you're moving away from this stuff, which was cooked up by people who want to use and exploit people like you. I hope you keep exploring and learning about the real world of relationships and reap all of the benefits!
/r/ExRedPill04/12/25 06:45 PM
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Why are you posting this crap here????
/r/ExRedPill28/11/25 12:24 AM
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People need to decide to change their views. You've told him it bothers you, and he's made it clear he doesn't care. What about any of this indicates that he wants to change in any way? You can settle for a creep who thinks you're intellectually and morally inferior to him or you can go find one of the literally millions of other men in the world who don't. Those are your choices here.
/r/ExRedPill25/11/25 05:58 PM
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It doesn't sound like you're particularly "ex" there. Why post this here?
/r/ExRedPill21/11/25 05:27 PM
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Going straight to rape fantasies from there is certainly a choice. I just want to make sure you know this: nearly every woman you will ever meet has had some variety of nonconsensual experience. Some women process this through fantasy. Most would really prefer that didn't happen. If rape fantasies are a big part of how you're wired, please understand that that's a specific kink thing for some people, not a near universal thing like, say, not realizing someone liked you until years after the fact…
/r/ExRedPill18/11/25 06:31 PM
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Why are you so convinced that women don't have the experiences you describe? It's just weird as heck to be told "you couldn't possibly understand" when you're describing actual experiences of mine, like not knowing someone was interested in me until years later. Have you considered the possibility that men's and women's experiences in dating actually have a lot of similarities?
/r/ExRedPill16/11/25 05:10 PM
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This is sarcasm, right? ...right?????
/r/ExRedPill30/10/25 04:20 PM
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I'm glad you're seeing that the red pill has nothing to offer you, OP. I hope you find a happy relationship.
/r/ExRedPill27/10/25 02:20 AM
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You need to get past the idea that relationships are inevitably transactional. They can be, but the idea that all of them are is a lie told by grifters who want you to be lonely and sad so you'll keep consuming their content.
/r/ExRedPill25/10/25 02:36 AM
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It's a way of pretending all of their nonsense is rational and scientific, although none of these ideas are based on a firm understanding of established science-- It's all badly extrapolated from shaky theories.
/r/ExRedPill11/10/25 04:20 PM
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It doesn't have to be your problem! Make it not your problem.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/25 06:07 PM
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I remember points in my life at which I thought being single was worse than death, but that feeling isn't real, i promise. You don't even like each other, ditch this loser and live your best life.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/25 05:39 PM
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The crappy thing about genuine self improvement is, none of the benefits are immediately apparent or satisfying. They accrue over time, which can make it feel like nothing is happening at all. There will be a point in which you're able to (metaphorically) look down and see how far you've climbed. I know it sucks, but the effort will pay off!
/r/ExRedPill15/09/25 05:27 PM
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Stop reading crap that tells you weird lies about women, and perhaps in due time you may find a partner.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/25 07:22 PM
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I really want to know what these actions and these consequences are. Redpill or no, it sounds like you're better off without this pompous douche.
/r/ExRedPill06/08/25 07:54 PM
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Hahahaha no
/r/ExRedPill18/07/25 04:44 PM
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Are there any specific qualities you would like her to have beyond the physical? Things you'd like to do together (with your clothes on)? Interests you would like to share? That's the point of meeting someone through shared interests: you have a point of commonality and a thing to talk about. Being in a relationship means talking to that person, a lot, and your best bet at making it stick will involve you really enjoying talking to each other. Most relationship advice by men for men leaves this …
/r/ExRedPill18/07/25 04:43 PM
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Seconded! Being able to trust my partner has made all the difference. It's truly bonkers to imagine that someone wouldn't want that.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 08:57 PM
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Who is telling you this, and why do you believe that it's true? Why is this more credible to you than other descriptions of human behavior?
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 08:55 PM
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It drives me crazy that people who are constantly actively doing things that run counter to basic biological drives are still somehow convinced that biological drives are the sole cause of all human behavior and nothing societal bears thinking about. A lady might have an innate "drive for hypergamy" (although the science around this actually isn't settled at all! These are theories, guys!) but... if I can resist snatching a candy bar off the grocery store shelf and shoving it into my mouth becau…
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 08:54 PM
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That's some made up crap created to sell you stuff.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 08:46 PM
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A biological fact that cannot be denied, eh? According to whom? This is all nonsense and you're hurting yourself by buying into it.
/r/ExRedPill17/07/25 08:45 PM
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They don't envy you either, fella.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/25 07:38 PM
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You're deluded. Also, speaking from experience: fat and otherwise not particularly beautiful people, who you find disgusting, are having wonderful sex with each other all the time, everywhere. You, on the other hand, are having sex with your hand. Are those grapes sour, my friend?
/r/ExRedPill08/07/25 05:58 PM
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Oh honey. You have taken a few true things (the fear of violence) and spun them into a universe of insanity. If you think women are hopeless liars who will never tell you the truth about anything, what do you even need the redpill for? Wouldn't you be better off just staying away from those mean liars and being happy on your own? I don't think you really believe this, because there's still a part of you that wants love and knows it's possible. Do you see the contradiction?! Also, if women only w…
/r/ExRedPill08/07/25 02:40 PM
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It's comical because you believe redpill grifters telling you what women want, rather than listening to actual women. That's not gonna get you anywhere. Those guys are giving you bad advice so you'll fail at dating and continue consuming their content.
/r/ExRedPill08/07/25 01:59 PM
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I promise you, kiddo, you don't need any of that shit to have a good and happy life. I sincerely doubt you look as bad as you think you do, and on the off chance you do, I'm no looker and have a life that's very worthwhile. Please stop reading garbage that murders your self esteem.
/r/ExRedPill06/07/25 11:04 PM
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A lot of what you're saying here sounds like the way i thought of myself when I was younger (although I am white, just, yknow, a lot of people casually dehumanize women that aren't beautiful -- worse for WOC but still true across the board). I'm very lucky that the internet didn't really exist when I was a teenager, because internet communities magnify these awful feelings and insist that our worst ideas about ourselves are true. It's seductive to wallow in the bad feelings, especially since all…
/r/ExRedPill06/07/25 04:01 PM
4

I'm assuming you gave up and moved on? If so: great job looking out for yourself ❤️
/r/ExRedPill27/06/25 03:01 PM
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Do not let sunk cost fallacy keep you with a person who is clearly choosing a bad path. You can't fix him (he has to want to change) and life is too short
/r/ExRedPill26/06/25 10:46 PM
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Humans are social animals and want validation. Our society keeps insisting that we're supposed to be self sufficient islands, but that's delusional-- we can't survive without a vast social web that produces everything we need! Rather than being ashamed that you want attention from other people, maybe it's time to sit with it, grieve the times that you've been lonely, and find some social outlets that can build your sense of yourself as someone with innate value. I'm not talking out of my ass her…
/r/ExRedPill04/06/25 05:56 PM
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You are 20. This is much too young to commit to a fixer upper guy -- and as others have said, this is a fixer upper with a whole lot of rot in the foundation. There is a wide world out there full of men who aren't like this. There is nothing special about the one you have aside from sunk cost. Do not let sunk cost and a juvenile understanding of love trap you into wasting time with someone who has already proven he has no problem lying to you and is absolutely hiding more bad things from you. Ye…
/r/ExRedPill03/06/25 04:26 PM
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How did you discover this garbage, and what snapped you out of it?
/r/ExRedPill22/05/25 04:07 PM
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You did great! It sounds like you've grown a lot as a person and that should be celebrated. (Unrelated: I know what the Manosphere is, but it's now making me think of the classic "Manos, the Hands of Fate" and I am amused.)
/r/ExRedPill16/05/25 04:34 PM
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Throw the dang book in the trash already. Does that sound dismissive? Good. Everything these grifters say should be dismissed. No need for point by point dissection.
/r/ExRedPill01/05/25 11:49 AM
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That is an extremely depressing idea to project onto complete strangers. Tell me this: if nature made it so men only found a vanishingly small group of women attractive enough, to the point at which anything less was invariably disappointing, wouldn't that be a huge reproductive disadvantage for the species? Doesn't it seem more likely, based on the fact that we're all here, that our ancestors were way less choosy than you are, and so are most people of any gender????
/r/ExRedPill27/04/25 06:32 PM
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Have you considered talking to people off the internet every now and then? Or perhaps just looking at the people around you? Sit on a park bench and watch families go by. Some of the husbands will be kind of good looking. Most of them will be extremely average. The only really ripped guy you'll see will be running through the park by himself. Even if your scenario of the ripped guy banging heaps of ladies were true (and, in my experience, he's just as likely to scare a lady away with social awkw…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/25 03:19 PM
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If your central way of bolstering your self respect is by dominating and intimidating others, then the only way anyone will want to spend any time around you is if you have resources they can get at by sucking up to you. Which is to say, this attitude only gets you anywhere if you're very charming or wealthy. Otherwise, everyone just thinks you're a dick and avoids you. Our culture is very invested in a kind of "masculine leadership" that emphasizes dominance over... yknow, real leadership. Ive …
/r/ExRedPill19/04/25 03:35 PM
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Life is complicated, my friend. It doesn't break down to mathematical formulas of "you do this, you get that." Anybody who claims to have those answers is lying. Being a competent adult means wrestling with the fact that there are so many things you can't control, and figuring out how to be a good person -- not just because it's morally correct but also because you will be happier. It's also important to remember that redpill influencers wouldn't make much money or have big fan bases if their ad…
/r/ExRedPill11/04/25 07:13 PM
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I hope you're starting to see how there's self contradictory nonsense built right into this: your ex was simultaneously not a high enough status lady appearance-wise, but also managed to attract "too many" guys?! Starting to notice these contradictions may help you to remember that the people creating and profiting from rp material do not have your best interests at heart. If you achieve happy relationships, you won't need them anymore-- they don't want that!!!! Their advice is designed to keep …
/r/ExRedPill11/04/25 06:32 PM
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Don't expect it to make sense. And don't expect arguments about hypocrisy to work. It's all a bunch of nonsense held together by wishful thinking.
/r/ExRedPill02/04/25 02:13 AM
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It's a bunch of cope: they need to believe that women can't be genuinely attracted to men without money or muscles because admitting that we can means it's their awful personalities keeping them lonely and not their wallet or their body.
/r/ExRedPill29/03/25 06:41 PM
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"Why don't these subhuman, evil people want to f*** me?"
/r/ExRedPill26/03/25 09:28 PM
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I would only regard the article as SWERF rhetoric if it didn't make it very clear that the same consent issues exist in every kind of work under capitalism. It isn't claiming that women are incapable of making choices: it's saying that everyone has their choices limited by the way our society is constructed. Which is objectively true. With that said, OP posts a lot of bullshit and I doubt if he has particularly noble goals in posting this. Certainly, choosing to focus on one small part of the wh…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/25 06:31 PM
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I have brutal social anxiety and am undiagnosed but likely on the spectrum, so i can tell you that I know how difficult and painful it is to try and force yourself into the social world. But the alternative, sitting alone and circling the drain while YouTube blares scary bullshit at you, is infinitely worse. Believe me, I could write a book about all of my failures in the social world-- my fuckups, other people's awful behavior, and so on and so forth. I don't expect you to believe me when I say…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/25 02:21 PM
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You gotta stop watching this crap. It's poison and it's meant to make you feel anger and hatred and despair... and to watch more, and to buy garbage from grifters. The fact of the matter is, humans come in an amazing kaleidoscope of personalities and possibilities, and if you let these fuckers paint you into a corner, you'll never see most of it. Turn the videos off and talk to people.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/25 02:17 AM
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"Woman who gave up their morals for sex" ...what does that even mean? Lol
/r/ExRedPill03/03/25 12:27 AM
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What exactly is the point of what you just said? I just told you "don't tell me what I like or who I am, it feels disrespectful" and you were basically like "see here little lady men are like this women are like this" and... i just told you I'm not going to be swayed by that sort of nonsense and it feels insulting. I don't think you're a bad person and I don't think you're trying to insult me. So... what is happening here, exactly?
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:37 PM
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That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it, which i would argue is more realistic, is that every advance in human history resulted from people learning, collaboratively, what others had done and building upon it. You can't create a new technical advancement without someone teaching you the previous ones. If humanity was just all about Og and Grog the cavemen beating each other up, when Og discovered how to light a fire, Grog would have just clonked him with a rock and never would ha…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:34 PM
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I'll believe it when I see it. Look at what's playing out on the world's stage -- just a huge dick measuring contest of insecure bullies. I've seen it on the micro scale and the macro scale so many times. "Manhood," as separated from biology, is about domination, and domination is about insecurity.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:23 PM
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Who is "they"? Who do you think you're talking to? Women aren't robots, we're people, and we like a variety of things. One big problem men who fall for this garbage have is, you listen to what men tell you about women rather than freaking listening to women! How do you think you're going to get wives and girlfriends if you can't accept anything that women say about ourselves as true? NOBODY LIKES THAT.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:19 PM
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A costume that you wear for long enough that it becomes comfortable is still a costume. Lord knows I've known enough dudes who were obsessed with being Manly Enough, who, if you picked at the edges of it at all, would freak the fuck out in ways that made it clear that the pose still never provided them with the security it was supposed to. (Ex: my late dad, too insecure to let me teach him how to play chess when I was in high school, even though I was never particularly good at it, because of th…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:12 PM
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Exactly! See? Look at you, exercising the mental muscle to tell all those fuckers where to stick it, building the strength to be exactly who you are. That's the real strength-- not letting yourself be beaten into some mold by some insecure dorks. Physical muscle can be nice, but it takes way more guts to dare to be comfortable in your own skin. Keep it up and you're gonna do great!
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:09 PM
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Women are not "wired" to like any one thing. This is the redpill shit lying to you. Are there ladies who will only date buff rich guys? Sure. Are there ladies who want nothing to do with macho muscle dudes? Well, look at the popularity of like, timothee chalamet and Benedict Cumberbatch and whatever. Or, in another direction, how about Jack Black? The people telling you women are "wired" to only want massive machismo are lying to you to make you feel shitty and keep consuming their content. They…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:04 PM
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Don't compromise! People can tell when you're putting on an act.
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 05:00 PM
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They do, and that's horrible and wrong. But you know what? Dudes clowning on another guy for being a virgin or whatever aren't showing Manly Strength: they're demonstrating their own fear and insecurity by putting on a show of "don't pick on me! Pick on that guy!" It's fucking pathetic. I know cruel, aggro guys are everywhere and they live to find targets for their assholery (and plenty of ladies are real dickheads too). And we're social animals, so anyone who claims you can just ignore all of t…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 04:59 PM
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Red Pill ideas are probably extra maladaptive for a guy who isn't too inclined, naturally, to be macho. Certainly, this is part of your problem, dating-wise: you're trying to go for the sort of ladies who like their guys Manly (tm) instead of leaning into your softer, gentler side, which, believe it or not, has a willing audience of ladies as well. Many of us find guys who are obsessed with being Manly (tm) boring at best, more likely completely repellent. I haven't read the other comments here,…
/r/ExRedPill22/02/25 04:52 PM
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"How" i can understand, but the reason why should be obvious?
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 01:17 AM
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Plenty of people who are not conventionally attractive find each other attractive and happily pair up.
/r/ExRedPill13/02/25 01:06 AM
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OP, the people who are telling you that shit are 1) miserable, unpleasant people and 2) manipulating you for money. It sounds like the algorithms have you backed into a corner where this is all you see, but i reassure you that only a loud minority of terrible people believe this shit. (Signed, 45 years old, happy relationship, no kids)
/r/ExRedPill07/02/25 05:55 PM
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That's not the point. The point is that the ideal is not objective and changes all the time. (Also, i would argue that the preferred physique of the 70s and 80s would be frowned upon today! Those ladies had no asses at all! People with asses like that get surgery to make them bigger and rounder now!)
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 07:50 PM
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I hear you, friend! My entire early life was my parents AND bullies basically telling me how much I sucked every minute of the day, and it did not shape me into a pleasant person. Over the years, I've stumbled into many better people who have treated me with kindness and respect, and what I've learned is that while addressing the world with kindness and mercy sometimes still results in being treated with cruelty and ugliness, some of the good you put out into the world comes back to you. And tha…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 07:47 PM
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She would be found attractive, but not ideal. The body shapes found desirable in each era are really different. (Look at butts in the 80s vs today!)
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 05:30 PM
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OK, then perhaps your problem is deeper: you're having trouble coping with the fact that other people are different from you and have their own subjectivity, and that's fine and good and way more interesting than it would be if you lived in a world of clones of yourself. If you open up your mind to the possibility that not only are other people's differences valid, but they're interesting and you can learn stuff, you're going to be a happier guy! I had trouble with this when I was younger too, a…
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 05:26 PM
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They look the same because that is the ideal people who decide who winds up on TV choose to sell. The obvious proof of this: compare what was considered beautiful across each decade of the 20th century. Farrah Fawcett and Kim Kardashian would not be the ideal in each other's eras. There's nothing objective or biological about it.
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 05:18 PM
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I mean, the world is full of people who like things you don't and dislike things you don't. Do you have this level of confusion over something like, you like strawberry ice cream and hate chocolate, and someone else loves chocolate and hates strawberry? I think the reason people are invested in these kinds of questions is a desire to judge others or escape judgment. But like... we're allowed to be different, but we are allowed to be bothered if other people use those differences as an excuse to …
/r/ExRedPill24/01/25 05:15 PM
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I've written this on reddit before but it bears repeating: My guy friend who's 5'4 gets more ass than a toilet seat but still insists women don't like short men. Height is only one of many things that people might like or not like about you, and not all women are interested in all men. Yet THE INTERNET extrapolates the fact that some women don't like short men into a catastrophe of epic proportions, as though the inevitable fact that rejection occasionally happens means that ONLY rejection happe…
/r/ExRedPill23/01/25 10:54 PM
10

...didn't she choose you???? Are you saying you're a bad choice???? Also, why are you discounting the person above who said that bad dudes pretend to be good dudes when we first meet them? Why does it make more sense to you that women "want" bad men, or "don't know or admit what they want," rather than what seems more rational to me, which is that people get duped? Have you never found that someone who seemed wonderful to begin with was actually terrible? If you've never experienced this, you ha…
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 06:39 PM
11

Think of it this way: the woman you're talking about was attracted to a crappy guy but said she liked you better. Why would you continue to insist that women "like violent men" when women keep telling you "no, we actually don't "? You're listening to what men claim women want and ignoring what we actually say. Shut out those toxic masculinity voices, they're lying to you. Listen to women.
/r/ExRedPill10/01/25 05:28 PM
5

Same! There are ladies for whom a bi partner is a plus.
/r/ExRedPill26/12/24 05:20 PM
8

You're always going to have doubts; that's inevitable. What you need to do is strengthen your ability to talk back to those doubts. One thing you can do immediately is stop consuming media that tells you what women supposedly want. All that shit exists to manipulate you and make you want more of it. The people making that crap are exploiting your understandable anxieties about trying to operate as a human being in a confusing world. The people making that don't want to help you.
/r/ExRedPill24/12/24 05:27 PM
6

It's really depressing -- the idea of finding self worth through anything besides male validation is crazy talk to them, but they also aren't going to get that male validation, so they're just... lost.
/r/ExRedPill23/12/24 06:59 PM
16

Broaden what you're reading, and talk to real people out in the world. Ask them if any of the redpill stuff you believe applies to their relationships. Look at what couples you meet look like and act like: does this line up with what the influencers say?
/r/ExRedPill16/12/24 11:53 PM
63

Another important point: if you have no conflict you have no story. How do you introduce conflict and create an actual plot for a love story? The simple route is: tame a dickhead. In real life, of course, there is no need to invent a conflict so it's better if he just starts out... decent.
/r/ExRedPill16/12/24 07:01 PM
6

That is not what the article says at all
/r/ExRedPill15/12/24 05:16 PM
6

Glad you're growing out of that garbage! I hope you can take this new knowledge and use it to help fish other vulnerable young guys out of toxic ideology that will only hurt them.
/r/ExRedPill09/12/24 11:26 PM
16

What are you even doing here? You have nothing to contribute but verbal vomit. Shoo!
/r/ExRedPill08/12/24 11:48 PM
4

Taking action to make the world a better place requires thinking about what's wrong in the first place. I don't see anything about OP's post that demonstrates that his anger is excessive, obsessive, or self destructive.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 07:16 PM
3

OP, I don't know why all these weirdos are insisting your issues aren't real. Men who are weird about men liking things they consider "not manly" are totally a thing, and I'm sorry you're having to deal with that.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 05:52 PM
5

What TF is your problem? Being mad about social issues is completely healthy and legitimate.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 05:50 PM
1

I'm with you here :(
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 05:05 PM
1

Same! OP's anxiety is real and valid and he is being mistreated, I don't understand why other people would invalidate that. Masculinity rules are stupid and awful and... They exist
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 04:14 PM
1

Uh yes it totally is, especially the whole anti-cat thing.
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 04:11 PM
1

I know it doesn't make a difference because being picked on is never gonna not hurt, but anyone who gives you shit for loving kitties is literally the last person you should give a second of your attention to. Of course, part of their power is insisting that "everyone" agrees with them. I would wager, though, that 90% of people who would claim to agree with them also love cats but are too afraid to admit it, and imagine what a sad life that is, depriving yourself of purrs and pets just because y…
/r/ExRedPill22/11/24 04:10 PM
6

It's not the truth! It's bullshit that people who don't care about you want you to believe!
/r/ExRedPill12/11/24 12:47 PM
8

I assure you that the vast majority of coupled people are not settling for their partner while pining for what they "really want."
/r/ExRedPill12/11/24 12:46 PM
3

Only a small handful of wealthy people do the above. Normal people are like... Normal. (You, clearly, are not.)
/r/ExRedPill12/11/24 12:44 PM
21

That is an... Interesting way to interpret what she wrote.
/r/ExRedPill05/11/24 04:49 PM
8

I think you're overestimating how common and how important casual sex is in people's lives. It may feel like you're missing out, but honestly most "normal" people aren't fucking a bunch of randos either! Even the attractive ones! This sort of thing is glamorized and normalized in popular culture, but most people are just kinda settling down with one person and that's fine.
/r/ExRedPill24/10/24 01:18 AM
7

Do you want to be popular with a lot of women, or find one person to love? These are different things, and one of them is something society tells you to be, while the other is a worthy goal and totally doable, albeit not easily or straightforwardly.
/r/ExRedPill23/10/24 09:32 PM
2

I may be uniquely positioned to give you some hope, although I'm not a guy and social situations are different than they used to be: it's likely that I'm somewhere on the spectrum (undiagnosed, but looking back at the absolute social mess I was as a kid): I had few friendships, didn't know how to relate to other people at all, and could count the friends I made in the first 18 years of my life on both fingers. I made maybe five friends in college and I think I still talk to like, two of them. I …
/r/ExRedPill21/10/24 02:03 AM
7

Oh, sweetie. I have no advice, just want to give you a mom hug because you need one. You're really young, and nothing you regret in your life is irreversible. Manosphere garbage exists to make you feel worthless and suck the money out of your pockets. I hope you're able to escape from this awful feeling, recover your self worth, and grow into a person you want to be. Good luck <3
/r/ExRedPill20/10/24 03:35 PM
24

I should add though: feeling ugly fucking HURTS and I realized that what I wrote above wasn't acknowledging that your pain is real and it's a lifelong struggle. Just know that you're not alone and it's not hopeless, OP.
/r/ExRedPill16/10/24 06:53 PM
40

I'm not saying this to play any sort of nonsense game about who has it worse, but rather to empathize: men talk about how women aren't their type and pick our appearances to shreds EVERYWHERE. just look around this site for a minute or two -- there are literally dudes who will call Taylor Swift "mid" and declare ordinary women basically subhuman. I hope that gives you some perspective when I say: I'm a stubby little potato shaped lady with little beady eyes, and I've literally had guys I was DAT…
/r/ExRedPill16/10/24 06:52 PM
10

A lot of people of any gender will be careful not to text too much early in a relationship because they don't want to seem too eager. At this stage, the number one ironclad rule is DON'T LET YOURSELF READ TOO MUCH INTO FREQUENCY OF COMMUNICATION. There are a million factors that can affect it and most of them have nothing to do with you. You have to force yourself to not worry unless like, two whole days go by. When the relationship is established -- and at four dates, it's not -- you'll have a …
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 03:55 PM
36

All of the stuff you've imbibed from the red pill that you're repeating here was shit that people who wanted to exploit you made up. ALL OF IT. it's possible that she's seeing other people, if you've only been on four dates. It's possible that the relationship won't work out (likely, even, if you can't scrub all of this awful shit out of your brain). But absolutely none of it is going to be explicable through their terms because they made it up to mess with you, exploit you, and steal your money…
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 02:31 PM
19

You're accusing people who you don't even know and who don't know you of doing things someone else did, and directing that at "you women"... And you're surprised that people respond to that with "you have some negative ideas about women, bro." Nobody is framing this as "we're better than you." We're framing this as "you have issues with women," based on the only thing we know about you, which is the words you have placed here.
/r/ExRedPill09/10/24 02:15 PM
13

These are risks people have always taken for all of the existence of our species. Prior to the last couple hundred years, we seldom lived in places where you would ever meet a "stranger" at all. Many people around the world still live in communities where they know everyone and seldom meet someone new. That's what's actually normal, modern alienated existence is actually what's weird.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 04:08 PM
7

It wasn't actually cold approaching in the past: people lived in communities that were more tightly knit, so the person you were talking to probably knew of you if they didn't actually know you. The way to imitate this isn't cold approaches: it's engaging in frequent, repeated social activities in the same groups.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 03:52 PM
13

You could also join various kinds of social activities where you get to know people who include women, get to know someone you think is cute, and then ask her out once you've gauged whether she might be interested. This is a variation on how partners have met for all of human history.
/r/ExRedPill06/10/24 03:49 PM
3

1) women, like men, are not a monolith, and we individually favor different things. Some ladies want a Muscle Chad; you couldn't pay me enough to date one. As such: yes, women who prefer short men exist! They might not be a majority, but some gal is going to prize your little elfy self -- for her, it will be a positive. My buddy who's 5'4 insists that his height is a problem in meeting women but that guy is never single for more than five minutes. Any sentence that starts with "all women want...…
/r/ExRedPill05/10/24 03:29 PM
1

Right, the only reason someone could possibly disagree with you is because they don't know what you're talking about, rather than that you're ignoring what I'm talking about. You're literally claiming I said stuff I didn't (maybe attributing someone else's words to me? I dunno), so uhhhhhhhh
/r/ExRedPill01/10/24 07:30 PM
0

Ok, so, I already knew all of that, so I don't know how that applies to what I said, which is that my only reason for being interested in any of this is how these views affect the world outside of the subculture. Both proliferate ideas that hurt both subscribers and the people they interact with, and both have similarly nasty views about women.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/24 06:38 PM
0

What differences are actually relevant to someone who is not involved, pray tell?
/r/ExRedPill01/10/24 05:45 PM
0

I mean, the only reason I'm here at all is because manosphere communities teach boys and men maladaptive bs that hurts them and makes them unpleasant and sometimes dangerous to others. The subtleties of subgroups within the manosphere aren't particularly interesting or relevant to that concern.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/24 04:01 PM
1

The overlap in rhetoric is such that to anyone who isn't embedded in these communities, they are essentially the same thing. Certainly, their effects on people outside of those communities are identical, and that's the only reason people who aren't involved need to think about them at all. If these subcultures weren't invested in spreading and acting on vicious misogyny, the rest of us could happily ignore them.
/r/ExRedPill01/10/24 03:53 PM
13

I think the racist cliches about Black men oversexualize them, while the racist cliches about East and South Asian men desexualize them, if that makes sense? In the eyes of racists, Black men are sexual rivals while Asian men are sexual inferiors. All of this is equally dehumanizing, wrong, and gross, and gets at why aligning with right wing misogyny is a bad path for any nonwhite men. OP, correct me if I'm not interpreting you correctly!
/r/ExRedPill30/09/24 06:45 PM
8

Yup. Being single was ok, being with the wrong guy was horrible, being with the right guy is great.
/r/ExRedPill29/09/24 09:41 PM
1

Maybe reframe by realizing that you're already having more sex than most people your age?
/r/ExRedPill27/09/24 12:52 PM
9

Just leave. It's what he deserves.
/r/ExRedPill22/09/24 02:38 PM
5

Socialism and communism aren't about not working: they're about making decisions about the work you do, and how the value is distributed. Under capitalism, you are forced (your other choice is homelessness and starvation!) to work for someone who builds their wealth by stealing the value created by your work. This isn't remotely controversial.
/r/ExRedPill18/09/24 12:47 PM
4

This is why I tell my partner how cute and handsome he is whenever it occurs to me to do so. I hope you find a lady who does the same! A good partner won't fix your body image issues, in my experience, but it does help.
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 02:52 PM
9

If people like your personality that's a REALLY GOOD THING actually!
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 03:01 AM
9

What on earth makes someone who says this shit otherwise dateable?!
/r/ExRedPill15/09/24 01:15 AM
-2

Exactly who am I trying to get picked by, pray tell? Do you even know what a pickme is? Lol
/r/ExRedPill05/09/24 11:58 PM
6

Do you think that is what most women are like? Are the women around you like that?
/r/ExRedPill05/09/24 08:58 PM
5

You didn't answer my question: what does submission entail and what will he expect from you?
/r/ExRedPill05/09/24 08:46 PM
5

What does submission mean to you? Has he defined this? I would certainly ask him to detail it for you -- does he get to choose your clothes? Where you live? Who you're allowed to talk to? If you get to work? If you get to see your family? How you raise your kids? Whether he gets to use corporal punishment? Are you prepared to hand control over all of these things to him? Does that feel like a good and safe idea?
/r/ExRedPill05/09/24 08:31 PM
14

Do you want to spend the rest of your life hearing from him that he would like you better if you were a 19 year old virgin? Because based on what you're saying he has said, he does think that he would be better off with a teenage bride. Is being negatively compared that way, openly, ok with you? Then by all means marry this charming fellow.
/r/ExRedPill05/09/24 08:26 PM
3

Good people feel bad about having done bad things. But in order to have a sense of self respect and sanity, that has to be integrated with a larger sense of yourself as a person: who you are, who you were, who you want to be. It's really hard to maintain a balance in a society where people from all political and ideological angles are eager to tell you that you're worthless and disposable. I don't know what the secret is to achieving that balance -- sometimes I find myself staring at the shower …
/r/ExRedPill04/09/24 09:14 PM
3

Well, the subreddit is "exredpill." Presumably there's an agreement here that it isn't a good thing. If you're going to try and convince people that it is, a place where the beginning collective understanding re: redpill is "nah" doesn't seem very productive. At the very least, you should assume that people in here have weighed the arguments for/against and come to a conclusion that your words are unlikely to change. This is not fertile ground for recruitment.
/r/ExRedPill04/09/24 08:31 PM
2

Are you lost?
/r/ExRedPill04/09/24 06:47 PM
0

How did you come to that conclusion?!
/r/ExRedPill04/09/24 05:24 PM
16

SECONDED HARD. OP, you're seeing how clinging to outdated and stupid ideas about masculinity are holding this guy back -- now is a good time to dig through your own views about gender and see if they're helping you live the life you want. If they are, more power to you, but if they're not, time to reevaluate. Either way: that guy is going to continue creating his own misery and you're going to move on to better things. I wish you healing and luck!
/r/ExRedPill04/09/24 03:28 PM
2

I could just as easily argue that your manner in presenting this argument is an attempt to change my mind, and that you are accordingly violating my autonomy right now. If you subsequently argue with me that you are not, that's even more of a violation of my autonomy. I also find it disingenuous that you simultaneously claim that something is a "violation," which is morally and emotionally charged, but also that you aren't trying to change my mind because making that attempt is wrong. From where…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/24 08:40 PM
4

Tell me this: how do you tell the difference between someone presenting their point of view with the hope of changing someone's mind, and someone presenting their point of view without that hope? Because they look identical to me, and I'm not sure that any difference you would present could be objectively determined rather than a matter of opinion. I don't think saying "I am trying to convince you" or "I am not trying to convince you" make a difference, either. Objectively: nobody can force anyo…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/24 07:49 PM
2

Ok so what you're saying is we have a right to express our beliefs and defend them but are somehow morally obligated to pretend while doing so that we would not prefer for the other person to agree with us? Also, by your rationale, teaching schoolchildren is a violation of their autonomy. People have the right to believe bad things, other people have the right to try and change their minds. To say otherwise is drawing lines in arbitrary places (and yes, it's extremely arbitrary and specious to c…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/24 07:18 PM
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It's not "independence" to buy some influencer's crap hook line and sinker. And, it is ABSOLUTELY a good thing to try and influence people's beliefs -- are you applying this nonsense about how "trying to change people's minds is bad" to Tate, or to anything you approve of? Debating and discussing ideas is GOOD, and trying to change people's minds when they believe harmful things is GOOD. OP believes, and I agree, that absorbing Tate's ideas is harming his cousin, and trying to prevent harm IS GO…
/r/ExRedPill03/09/24 06:20 PM
8

Then you probably shouldn't complain about being lonely.
/r/ExRedPill28/08/24 01:01 AM
5

Who is saying this "constantly"? I've never encountered anyone who made a frequent point of talking about how much she would NEVER EVER DATE A SHORT MAN. At worst, it's probably a thing you see on dating sites here and there, but not from any majority of women. when you're the object of derision from a particular limited group of people, I know it can feel disastrous and make you feel like it defines you (ask me how I know!) but taking care of ourselves requires trying to think about this stuff …
/r/ExRedPill27/08/24 08:24 PM
5

I know plenty of tiny dudes like you who get many ladies. Sure, there are a handful of loud, mean women who will be shitty about your height, but letting them determine your entire attitude about yourself is so self destructive.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/24 08:06 PM
4

What defines you as a "2"? What features do you believe make you hideous? Because chances are you're like, on the low end of completely normal, but thinking of any human being of any gender with some ranked number is objectively ugly.
/r/ExRedPill27/08/24 08:03 PM
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The number one thing you can do to make yourself feel better about yourself that's DOABLE for absolutely anyone is: find out how you can help others. Formal volunteering works, but I've found that less formal acts of kindness always help me feel like less of a useless waste of space when I'm feeling down. You may not get any substantial thanks, but the results always help me feel better. Some dingus here will no doubt say that you should only do altruistic things for purely altruistic purposes a…
/r/ExRedPill27/08/24 04:57 PM
8

Women here: "we're into men. We just wish they wouldn't do this, this, and this, and many of us have found men who don't." You: "NUH UH, YOU ALL JUST DON'T LIKE MEN FULL STOP" why are you so determined to believe this?!
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 09:54 PM
4

Why on earth would you lean on supposed biological roots when there are so many obviously social causes? It's so bizarre to me that people keep insisting that men "can't" behave better when so many of them obviously do, and the social forces influencing them to not do so are so constantly in our faces.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 09:53 PM
3

I absolutely couldn't lean on either of my parents for advice about anything, and they absolutely were not role models. I think their flawed example of gender roles really damaged my sense of what relationships ought to look like, but it certainly didn't turn me into any kind of a bigot against men -- if anything, I was much too desperate for male approval (even while being an outspoken feminist). None of this stuff is really that simple.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 09:49 PM
3

I mean, nobody figures out much of anything on their own, nor should they have to?
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 06:37 PM
6

Well I mean you could listen to the women here saying that they want sex with men but fear getting hurt...
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 06:18 PM
11

Don't you guys complain about "misandry" all the time? It ain't lesbians doing most of the complaining about men.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 05:57 PM
14

Definitely seems to be the case, especially since many men who are in relationships and getting plenty of sex will still complain that their partner isn't attractive enough. In those cases, it's not about the sex, it's about validating them in the eyes of other men.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 05:56 PM
11

Because people who seem successful keep telling them that's the way to do it, and also those same people say that if they aren't out there getting laid, they're failing at life. Also, those same sources say it's women's fault and the men shouldn't change anything about their behavior, and blaming women is a lot easier than trying to be a better person.
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 05:54 PM
7

There are studies that actually say women require novelty more than men do. Read some updated stuff. (Objectively: if there are studies that go in opposite directions about this issue, it's likely that there's just a lot of variety among all genders!)
/r/ExRedPill24/08/24 05:51 PM
6

The people espousing these ideas are not 50 years old. They were born in the 80s and 90s, when the social pressures leading women to pair up or not were essentially identical to today. (I'm old enough to know this biz about social pressures is factual.)
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 11:14 PM
12

I think a lot of the appeal of redpill/blackpill messaging to young men who are struggling to establish relationships is sour grapes: it tells them that the thing they want the most is for suckers and won't make them happy. And it encourages maladaptive behavior that ensures that they'll stay in that angry, lonely audience. At the end of the day, millions of people all over the world have basically ok or sometimes actually really good relationships, but it's hard for a young person with tunnel v…
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 05:07 PM
10

I love these kinds of stories! I really hope that in time I can be that sort of caring bonus adult for my partner's kids. I'm not pushing myself into their lives, and they have two perfectly good parents to do parent stuff, I just want to be another person they know thinks they're awesome and is here to cheerlead them.
/r/ExRedPill21/08/24 04:58 PM
2

Normal people don't think about whether someone is "low value" according to these idiotic standards -- only losers on the Internet. Don't judge your life by their extraordinarily stupid standards!
/r/ExRedPill20/08/24 12:11 AM
5

So they're allowed to shame others but nobody's allowed to shame them? No, honey, this goes both ways. You call me a slut, I call you a misogynist. Go cry about it.
/r/ExRedPill04/08/24 02:44 PM
22

"the best we've had" depends on performance and not anatomy, so be a good and responsive lover and you will not have any issues. The fixation on numbers is idiotic.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/24 02:57 PM
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You need to calm the fuck down sir The vast amount of women have slept with fewer than 15 people, but more importantly, the fact that you care how many men a hypothetical lady you haven't even met yet has slept with is a PROBLEM If we're happy with someone, we don't compare. Make your next girl happy and attend to what she enjoys in bed and it will not matter if she has fornicated with an actual factual elephant. You are creating a problem where one does not exist.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/24 02:56 PM
22

Yeah, I startle EXTREMELY easily so I'd scream a little no matter what the person looked like. I can totally see why OP misinterpreted it because if you're fixated on thinking you're hideous, you tend to relate everything to that.
/r/ExRedPill03/08/24 01:20 AM
9

Question: you said you "started dating." Does that mean you've had some actual dates happen? Actual relationships?
/r/ExRedPill02/08/24 09:13 PM
14

I mean... How would a doll be somehow more satisfying than warming up a Fleshlight and watching some porn? Which is already pretty affordable. If that was all dudes wanted out of sex, there would be far fewer men whining that nobody wants to fuck them.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/24 02:59 AM
14

If you were correct about this, wouldn't most men just be forgoing dating already because masturbation would be adequate? I just don't think you're right about this.
/r/ExRedPill31/07/24 02:56 AM
16

You don't think that most people of any gender prefer... Having sex with other humans?
/r/ExRedPill31/07/24 01:14 AM
2

Well, other people apparently don't, and your arguments for why they ought to aren't particularly convincing.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 11:57 PM
3

It's an explanation, not an endorsement. And... If there was a democratic collective running reddit, you still would get banned from at least some groups. But... Why do you care?!
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 11:38 PM
3

Ok, first of all: 1) there are a million degrees of opinion from one end all the way to the extremes, with people who are willing to debate reasonably across a spectrum of ideas. I find it difficult to see how someone at the far end of that contributes something valuable. (Presumably, being an extremist, they aren't interested in listening or learning, either.) 2) having the occasional echo chamber can be useful for many reasons. Not every space needs to be open to everyone. It's not as though h…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 11:12 PM
13

I mean, if you're a self labeled "extremist" people mostly aren't going to want to associate with you. That's kind of how being an "extremist" works.
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 10:52 PM
21

Nobody is dating people they don't find visually appealing at all. It's just that what you spot across a room and say "WHOAH" at doesn't define the entirety of attraction; speaking from experience, you can spot someone gorgeous across a room, talk to them, and then realize that you want nothing to do with them because they're stupid and annoying. Or you might meet someone who is merely ok looking and, upon getting to know them, fall in love. There really just is so much more to attraction than w…
/r/ExRedPill30/07/24 07:03 PM
11

That "study," I believe, is info extrapolated from dating sites that doesn't apply to how people actually date or hook up. I could be wrong but I don't care enough to look up stats to refute something that so obviously is not true (ask any fugly guy on the street if he has had sex and the answer will almost certainly be yes).
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 10:30 PM
3

Complete hogwash.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 09:55 PM
60

Redpillers do not acknowledge normal ladies as actual women. They aren't talking about us. With that said, as an extremely mousy lady who has nevertheless gotten around quite a bit, not a single guy I've hooked up with has resembled the "Chad" or "Tyrone" caricatures these dweebs think women want. They seriously have no idea what we're into but they won't listen to us saying so, either.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 09:54 PM
5

Because you're making insane assumptions about what other people's lives are like, and nobody enjoys that. You could be the hottest guy in the world and open your mouth saying this kind of contemptuous nonsense about women and any woman would immediately walk away. Nobody is too physically ugly to be loved. (Fact: I'm ugly as hell! I'm in a happy relationship!) Your attitude is the most important thing and you need to fix it.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 04:42 PM
4

The fact that this is a serious question you're asking is far more harmful to your dating prospects than your appearance could ever be.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/24 02:57 PM
12

It's so bizarre how the manosphere simultaneously insists that gender roles are "natural," while demanding that you suppress your authentic self and reinvent yourself as someone completely fake. Glad you broke free and are living your best life!
/r/ExRedPill27/07/24 12:32 AM
24

You are very, very young to be worrying about being single for the rest of your life. It's really incredibly unlikely. The thing you need to do is seek out and build friendships, and the best way to do that is to seek out groups of people IRL who do whatever hobby you're into. Dating will follow organically from that. And stay the heck away from redpill and blackpill garbage, it's poison created by people who want to make money off of making you miserable. Good luck!
/r/ExRedPill26/07/24 08:53 PM
4

5'10 isn't short. Your height is not an issue.
/r/ExRedPill23/07/24 01:40 PM
2

Agreeing with the people saying to purge that stuff from your feed, and adding: my partner started going bald in college, but has never been single for an entire year as an adult! Not every woman is into a bald guy, but we absolutely are out there. Building your confidence, being a good person, and staying clean and nice-smelling will get you places with or without a full head of hair. You recognize evil and hateful content when you see it, and that means you have a good heart, even if you might…
/r/ExRedPill22/07/24 04:49 PM
21

You lost me with all the supposed women are like this, men are like that crap, plus the dividing women into implied "good" and "bad." Better than not trying, I guess?
/r/ExRedPill17/07/24 06:17 PM
3

Yes, of course, you, a complete stranger on the Internet know more about my experiences than I do. (Eyeroll) And y'all refuse to believe us when we say the attitude is the problem, not the appearance...
/r/ExRedPill16/07/24 01:16 PM
3

I didn't mention it because it's not true. (I've said this here before, but it bears repeating: I've been creeped the hell out by some very good looking guys and charmed by many who redpill dweebs would dismiss as short and "unattractive.")
/r/ExRedPill16/07/24 12:25 PM
5

It does not have a point, full stop
/r/ExRedPill13/07/24 04:43 PM
6

Exactly! We all have moments of weakness and those who love us can and should handhold us through that. Asking for reassurance here and there is fine, and good. But when it goes to the next level, trying to control the other person, ITS 100% BAD.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/24 04:42 PM
5

You need to Lysol all of this redpill dating coach bullshit out of your head. It's not designed to get you relationships! It's intentionally bad advice to keep you lonely and seeking more advice! NONE OF IT IS TRUE AND IT'S GONNA KEEP HURTING YOU.
/r/ExRedPill13/07/24 04:40 PM
2

Happy cake day! And I hope you find him soon and he's awesome.
/r/ExRedPill11/07/24 01:18 AM
10

You need to drop all this lingo and methodology and talk to women like a normal person.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 11:03 PM
7

Some motivation: Several years ago, I was dating this guy I wasn't enamored of, but he liked me, so I decided to give it a try. Maybe two months in, at brunch, he confessed that he once had been fired from a job for sexual harassment, but he "didn't actually do it," claiming he was unfairly targeted. I swear I'm not an idiot, I knew he was lying -- dudes who sexually harass women at work almost never get fired, so the likelihood that he didn't actually do anything wrong was pretty much zero! But…
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 10:30 PM
16

YEP. he's only gonna get worse
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 10:11 PM
4

If you're seeing this garbage this early in the relationship, it is only gonna ramp up. Trust me on this one.
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 10:11 PM
3

Speaking from experience as a pretty average potato of a lady, I've had some pretty extraordinarily gorgeous fellows hit on me and rejected them because as soon as they opened their mouths I wanted to run the fuck away. Really attractive men have an advantage, but it's overstated by nearly everyone because if they don't have some basic social graces, a lot of women still aren't going to want to deal with them. Seriously, there was this one fucking stunning dude I saw occasionally at the bar and …
/r/ExRedPill10/07/24 06:14 PM
1

Is there anyone you just... Like... Spending time with? That's the number one thing women want out of a relationship. To have someone around whose company we enjoy, and who doesn't make life difficult. That's way more important than having money (although you should have enough that you don't need hers -- you don't gotta be rich, just don't be a mooch!) or being tall or something. Do stuff she likes! Her, the individual, not some cardboard cutout imaginary woman some guy on the Internet said lik…
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 08:52 PM
12

I really want to know exactly what happened that paused the whole thing -- because there is DEFINITELY missing info here. And, seconding and thirding all the people saying that OP's height and general appearance and presentation cannot possibly be the problem, because if they were, you wouldn't have gotten as far as you did. Something happened, and your narrative doesn't make sense without it. (If it's just going soft: that happens sometimes to pretty much everyone. Any woman who is a jerk about…
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 08:36 PM
7

Yuppppp
/r/ExRedPill08/07/24 08:32 PM
2

Literally the only human being running towards those guys instead of running away
/r/ExRedPill07/07/24 12:15 AM
2

It must suck to have such a narrow range of people you find attractive. (Shrugs)
/r/ExRedPill02/07/24 11:00 PM
3

A lot of learning how to be a good person in a relationship can only be learned in a relationship -- human brains learn by doing! In the meantime, though, learning everything you can and being determined to be thoughtful is a great first step.
/r/ExRedPill30/06/24 04:47 PM
6

Please wipe the ideas of "beta" and "degenerate" out of your brain forever. The former is a concept that only makes sense to other people in the rp subculture -- it's not real, and normal people find that kind of thinking gross and weird. The latter is something literal Nazis say so, Lysol your brain and make it gone. The people teaching you these fucked up ideas were trying to mold you into a guy who stockpiles weapons, mass murders people, and leaves a manifesto after he's dead about how it's …
/r/ExRedPill21/06/24 01:12 PM
3

Being an amazing partner means treating someone the way they want to be treated. It really is that simple... And that difficult. Because some of that means treating them the way you would want to be treated, but some of that means catering to individual needs that are different from yours. It also means learning when those needs are reasonable and when they're not. Basically, it means working on your people skills. Which takes a lot of work, but is absolutely worth it. As for being casual versus…
/r/ExRedPill21/06/24 01:02 PM
15

I beg of you touch grass
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 11:22 PM
10

The vast majority of people who use porn do not get addicted. Also, if you look around reddit at all, you'll see that being in a relationship DOES NOT at all prevent people from developing harmful porn addictions. These things are not related. Also why are you calling me buddy and champ, weirdo
/r/ExRedPill17/06/24 06:06 PM
13

Ok listen buddy you have to stop buying into shit you read online. People in happy relationships still jerk off!!!!! Frequently!!!!! Often every day! Alongside having sex, frequently or infrequently! And porn is fine in moderation, but also plenty of people don't require or use it! GO TOUCH GRASS I BEG OF YOU
/r/ExRedPill17/06/24 05:03 PM
1

Having a good attitude is the most attractive thing of all! And I looked at your pictures, and you're a little cutie pie. Go get em! (This is absolutely not me hitting on you, I'm old enough to be your mom)
/r/ExRedPill15/06/24 11:06 PM
2

You don't think women exist who struggle to find a date? I don't know why I'm bothering to argue with you because you apparently only think what other men say is true and that women are just... Making shit up for some reason. Christ. It's astonishing, the one thing that might make life better for all of you is listening to women, but you just... Won't... Do it.
/r/ExRedPill13/06/24 11:44 PM
2

Blah, blah, blah, blah. You think I've never read this nonsense or had this argument before?
/r/ExRedPill13/06/24 08:54 PM
3

"most women don't know what it's like to not have anyone find them attractive" Where do you people even get this delusional bullshit about women's lives???? It's pure fiction. It is 110% garbage. I'm sorry for my tone but it is INFURIATING to have people saying this crap over and over again. It is not true. It is simply goddamned not true. Women get ignored and shit on for our looks CONSTANTLY. Women who aren't attractive goddamned fucking exist, we are human, and reading these straight up lies …
/r/ExRedPill13/06/24 07:52 PM
6

"Hookup culture" is way less rampant than you think -- it's been hyped up by a lot of media, and of course the people who are doing it are bragging. You are FAR from the only person of any gender who isn't getting any.
/r/ExRedPill11/06/24 10:33 PM
3

Seconded!
/r/ExRedPill11/06/24 04:41 PM
13

I'm asking for trouble here, but: what's your definition of third wave feminism, where did you get this definition, and what are the issues with it?
/r/ExRedPill11/06/24 04:40 PM
3

I'd flip it the other way around: their deep insecurity makes them feel compelled to have utter control over someone else, who they can punish for their own feelings of helplessness and weakness. That's not a claim that they deserve sympathy or a call to let them off the hook, but rather a claim that a healthier society would have few people who feel compelled to behave this way. We may claim as women "well, I'm insecure and feel helpless but I'm not doing this to anyone," but 1) power relations…
/r/ExRedPill10/06/24 07:58 PM
13

I'm almost more offended by their endless insistence that women all like exactly the same appearances in men, and no matter how much we insist that we have a broad range of preferences they just. Will. Not. Listen. It's so obnoxious.
/r/ExRedPill09/06/24 04:02 PM
19

These guys are completely uninterested in what women actually want, only complaining about what other men tell them women want. It's one of the more maddening aspects of misogyny: as a woman, your thoughts are deemed so unimportant that it feels rational for someone who isn't you to believe that they know what you think and feel and you actually don't. (Either that or you're lying to manipulate them, which, as an anonymous rando on the Internet you have no sane motivation to do, but I guess we'r…
/r/ExRedPill09/06/24 04:00 PM
16

It's doubly sad when women buy into this shit because they're just signing up for abuse :(
/r/ExRedPill08/06/24 03:36 PM
8

Whether or not someone seems safe and sane isn't related to whether or not he's physically attractive, but a profile that's well written of someone who seems interesting and kind and has no red flags will certainly get more responses than profiles that don't meet that criteria. A "hot" guy who seems like a dick or a creep still won't get many responses.
/r/ExRedPill07/06/24 12:58 PM
3

No, it is not
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 09:30 PM
7

Fascism is objectively bad tho I thought there was a consensus about that What the fuck is going on here
/r/ExRedPill02/06/24 09:29 PM
18

There are definitely men to whom this quote applies, to a lesser or greater degree, and there's a lot of denial about it on all sides. It's certainly not universal, but it's also not uncommon. Some of the most obvious expressions of this: the cliche of the guy complaining about his wife -- it exists in popular culture, and it exists in real life. This guy's real confidantes are his bros. the guy who is physically and visually quite attracted to his partner but does not want to be seen in public …
/r/ExRedPill31/05/24 04:31 PM
10

No, women do not "go for abusive guys." People may cherrypick examples of aggro, nasty dudes who target vulnerable and insecure girls, and sure, maybe some of those guys get girlfriends, but the majority of girls are not remotely interested. Most people of any gender wind up paired up, and that "20%" shit is entirely made up to mess with your head.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 04:20 PM
4

There are a lot of things I could say but the number one is: anything that uses the term "alpha male" as a positive is the opposite of useful. It's all lies and bullshit and it will only make you lonelier, meaner, and angrier. Just AVOID THAT CRAP.
/r/ExRedPill26/05/24 04:18 PM
19

YUP. the whole culture sets up "alpha Chad" as an aspirational figure, but his actual life doesn't seem very rewarding or fun; the only positives are that he has a lot of sex and other men admire him. But his actions and values ensure that his life is lonely and status-obsessed, always putting down other people (women and "lower status" men) in order to make himself look bigger. Best case scenario is, he marries a string of women he's manipulated into those relationships, ditches each one for a …
/r/ExRedPill24/05/24 06:20 PM
8

All of these things did evolve, but humans are the most adaptable animal, and it's impossible to separate, regarding our psychology, what is inborn from what is social and environmental. Environmental pressures shaped the minds of our ancestors, and have continued to ever since, so extrapolating how we behave and why from conclusions drawn from (often extremely faulty) data about the past has limited usefulness. For instance, as noted above, some ev psych extrapolated some claims based on the as…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/24 09:25 PM
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Most of what I've read takes some spurious information and broad assumptions about how ancient people lived and then extrapolates it to their assumptions about how modern humans should live. I've yet to read any that doesn't make huge logical leaps or skip inconvenient information that might disagree with the thesis. I'd say "I'm happy to be proven wrong" but I've also yet to meet a person who liked this stuff who I could tolerate. (Psyched to see responses to this that will jump straight to ins…
/r/ExRedPill19/05/24 03:40 PM
16

IMPORTANT QUESTION: why are people so convinced that the Internet is responsible for loneliness, rather than 1) a complete lack of public spaces and institutions for adults to meet each other, 2) neighborhoods built to only travel by car, and in which we're told everyone is out to get us so we don't talk to each other, 3) kids not being allowed to play outside, and any number of other ways in which our REAL LIVES are more alienating? People were talking about this before the Internet! The book B…
/r/ExRedPill16/05/24 12:53 PM
1

I know how embarrassing it is to realize when you were taken in by something, but that feeling is gonna fade -- and that sucky experience is going to give you the ability to help talk other people out of that crap, because you'll understand them better than other people who don't have that experience. Speaking from experience, sometimes we gotta try something out before we understand why it doesn't work, and while that's not pleasant, it gives you some perspective you might not otherwise have. g…
/r/ExRedPill15/05/24 08:22 PM
6

Message the next day. What you need to do right now is take a measured approach that shows enthusiasm but also good judgment. Waiting a few days is manipulative garbage that will make her feel devalued -- don't do that if you actually want something to work out. Don't play dumb games.
/r/ExRedPill08/05/24 09:25 PM
11

Nope, definitely happened -- I've gotten so much of the same kind of shit over the years, you have no idea. I had other kids barking at me to make sure I knew I was a dog, ok? So when I say, if I could find love, anyone can, I'm speaking from a place of experience. I threw myself at dating sites like my life depended on it, got rejected more than you can even imagine, and finally settled down with someone great. Not a six foot tall moneybags with abs or something, but someone who I love spending…
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 11:25 PM
7

The main reason why I talk back to guys talking about how they're too hideous to date (not invalidating them! Trying to encourage them!) is because when I was in high school I thought exactly the way they do. I thought I was too hideous to be loved, and since nobody was going out of their way to tell me otherwise, I had no way of knowing that wasn't true. The truth is, I am not an attractive woman. I'm kind of a potato with legs, frankly, and that's fine. But I found love. So why on earth would …
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 11:19 PM
4

"Beta bucks" is made up shit. I don't know why you would give that any credence.
/r/ExRedPill04/05/24 04:48 PM
6

Infatuation fades, it's a thing.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 07:50 PM
6

You're fundamentally misunderstanding what's happening there. Myself and billions of other people are not pushing through disgust to be attracted to our partners who aren't perfect looking -- we just ARE attracted to them. Most people feel attraction to people with a wide range of appearances. (Fun fact: it's well documented that many men who claim they're only attracted to skinny women jerk off to porn of fat women! Attraction is weird!) You need to find someone you are attracted to or be alone…
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 02:07 AM
3

The thing is, the people you think are just grinning and bearing it being with people you think are gross looking ARE attracted to their partners. This thing you're imagining everyone is doing isn't real. People can be and are attracted to people who don't look like mannequins. You might need to look at a particular kind of beauty to feel attraction, but that's not actually universal at all. So you should let your girlfriend go and find someone who wants her. Someone will.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 01:24 AM
1

Sorry! I seem to have replied to an old thread.
/r/ExRedPill29/04/24 12:00 AM
1

I'm genuinely curious because this puzzles me: why wouldn't you want to be married to someone you also appreciate as a friend? I ask in part because in the relationship I'm in, we function so perfectly as friends as well as lovers, and it rules. I'm not you and you're not me (and I think you have a little trouble grasping that other men can have way different wants and needs than you, and that women can be hugely different from each other as well), so I'd like to know what troubles you about the…
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 10:10 PM
1

The one issue I have with all of this is the continual insistence that women who say we have our own authentic sexuality that isn't about exploitation or performance are lying. That's a real problem -- refusing to believe women when we talk about our own experiences.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 10:04 PM
1

And no women have ever tried to chat you up? Ever?
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 09:57 PM
18

That's because you have limited experience, and aren't looking around you -- go out in public and see all the lumpy people out at Walmart buying stuff with their lumpy kids! Nobody's going to put me or my partner on the cover of a magazine but we can't keep our hands off each other.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 05:42 PM
16

Breaking up is the kind thing to do for her. Find someone else to date who you want to touch
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 05:41 PM
7

There are definitely a lot of elements of attraction that aren't about appearance, and they're hard to describe -- you just KNOW it when you feel it. I've occasionally had that zap towards people whose appearance I didn't like at all, and lacked it for people who were visually appealing.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 05:40 PM
39

Don't maintain a relationship with someone you are not attracted to. It's cruel to them.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 05:38 PM
27

My strong suspicion is that he doesn't regard women who don't meet a certain standard of hotness as "counting." I would bet good money that he's gotten asked out and flirted with, just doesn't count it because he was disgusted with the idea that they might like him.
/r/ExRedPill28/04/24 04:24 PM
2

You don't understand how anything works, dude
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 11:31 PM
1

People whose relationships are working out just fine aren't going to talk about it anywhere near as much as people whose relationships are going to hell. You're surrounded by people having perfectly ok love lives but only talking to the people who are suffering from assorted drama. Happiness isn't that interesting.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 11:02 PM
5

Who are these feminist men who are getting no attention at all from women? Most of the men I know are feminists and they are having no issues in that department, and none of 'em look like Brad Pitt. on the other hand, I have shot down some pretty attractive misogynists. I don't know where you're getting any of this shit from. It's like you guys only talk to each other and never to women. Also, lol at the idea you can "like" someone you hate because of their gender. Words mean things.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 10:54 PM
9

Adding to correct things others have said: there is no good outcome here if you diverge from treating her and thinking of her as a human being.
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 06:58 PM
2

What an empty way to live :( also wildly self defeating
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 05:19 PM
2

I mean, charm and manipulation can win you the ability to bed some ladies if you don't mind knowing that you're a bad person and frankly kind of pathetic. I don't understand how that doesn't seem to bother these dudes -- that their imagined best case scenario ends with them dying alone and not remembered with any kind of fondness
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 05:02 PM
5

Being attractive and misogynistic can get you in a relationship if you're a skilled manipulator. However, "unattractive" men* who make a tremendous effort to fight misogyny and treat women with respect are actual prizes. Redpill types claim this is not the case, but the unattractive guys they're citing who they claim are non-misogynistic, uh, aren't. Women really like men who actually LIKE us. Evidence: I've been in relationships with some objectively gorgeous dudes who did not treat me well. Th…
/r/ExRedPill27/04/24 05:00 PM
4

Yes, clearly.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/24 11:53 PM
8

I mean, yes? There is no formula. Humans don't work that way.
/r/ExRedPill23/04/24 11:53 PM
9

This really feels like the wrong subreddit for this, because OP doesn't seem very interested in like, sane non redpill thinking about gender or relationships
/r/ExRedPill23/04/24 11:17 PM
7

You're brainwashed.
/r/ExRedPill20/04/24 12:54 AM
16

You think these guys want to be involved dads? They only whine about how moms supposedly always get custody* because they gotta make up something about how the system is supposedly weighted against them. These are not dudes who change diapers or drive teenagers to sports practice after school. Their plan is to complain about how the person who does all the work raising their kids is "stealing" their money. ...this is only true because dads don't usually try to GET custody
/r/ExRedPill19/04/24 05:26 PM
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It would creep me out so much to hear anyone I was dating was into that stuff, because even if he says "you're different," 1) does he really think you're different, or is he just saying that? and 2) when he's mad at you for something, the mask may come off and what's under it could be really terrifying. I'd feel so unsafe with someone like that. And... Even on his best behavior, he already undermines your self esteem and tells you he doesn't believe your understanding of things that have happene…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 08:26 PM
3

I've had feelings ranging from pride to disgust, mostly depending on how the other person treated me. I've also felt pretty disgusted with non-casual sex too, though. Ultimately for me, being with one person who I freaking adore and who also is a delight in the sack is the best of all possible worlds for me, but that doesn't make lesser experiences the worst thing ever in comparison. On the other hand, the redpill ideal -- sex with people you feel utter contempt for and have manipulated into bed…
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 03:34 PM
5

Yup. Casual sex is fun occasionally, and I'm not sorry about having a lot of it, but it's in such an entirely different league from being in a good relationship. You can use "redpill" garbage to maybe get your d*** wet, but it will actively prevent you from having much more satisfying experiences.
/r/ExRedPill15/04/24 02:00 PM
3

Sometimes people just don't click when they meet in person. This feels HUGE when you've invested a bunch of time and emotional energy, which can make something like this feel like the end of the world... without perspective. A broader perspective: I haven't counted how many people I met on dating sites over the years, but given that I was on them on and off for 17 years, it's got to be a few hundred people there. Out of all of them, the vast majority didn't lead to second dates, and there could …
/r/ExRedPill13/04/24 12:34 AM
9

This is stupid.
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 11:34 PM
5

All of this post is true but none of the loons who make these claims are remotely interested in facts. (I spent my childhood being told I had the opposite of value by most people, and have battled this messaging from any number of shitheads over the years, but facts don't actually matter to incels!)
/r/ExRedPill12/04/24 09:35 PM
1

That is some hilarious cope my friend. Have you thought about going into comedy? (Don't, that requires being intentionally funny)
/r/ExRedPill10/04/24 04:21 PM
1

And... You're claiming that women's experiences are something they aren't. Describing your own experience is useful and interesting. Making up completely cockamamie shit about other people's experiences makes it really a waste of time to attempt a respectful debate.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/24 02:53 PM
1

Wilfully misreading people's words isn't much of a way to win an argument, and does make it less interesting.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/24 02:51 PM
4

There is an extent to which I can try to be helpful, but once someone just makes up their own version of what they think my life is like to this extent, I think it's fair to assume that nothing I say will make any kind of dent.
/r/ExRedPill10/04/24 12:20 AM
16

"a woman is always told by everyone at every turn they have inherent value just for being them"??????!!!! This is so wildly delusional I suspect we live on actual different planets.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 10:11 PM
6

A woman is always told they have inherent value just for being them?????!!!!!!! WHERE DO YOU EVEN GET THIS DELUSIONAL GARBAGE FROM
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 10:09 PM
17

But you have no way of actually knowing how bad women have it aside from what we report, so how on earth do you know it's worse? A lot of young men will say "at least you're getting dates" even if they're with terrible people who treat us badly. How can you know that's "better" if you haven't experienced it and won't listen to people who have? Ignoring any information that doesn't "seem right" hasn't gotten you anywhere so far, so maybe listening might?!
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 05:45 PM
17

So what you're saying is, what seems right to you, having experienced very little, is definitely more accurate than what other people have actually experienced. That's nuts, kid. Also: women with autism and social anxiety EXIST
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 05:12 PM
20

Explain to me how you have a deep enough understanding of the lives of other people, millions of other people, most of whom you've never met and never will, that you can say this with such ironclad confidence? I mean, I can't verify scientifically that our experiences are definitely similar, but you can go with two sources on this: extremely depressed shut-ins who all circulate ideas among themselves about what women's lives must be like, who often don't even consider women to be the same specie…
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 03:08 PM
11

Kids can be pretty awful.
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 01:44 PM
74

Listen, pal: I've been told I'm ugly by a LOT of people. In school, boys would pull the "she's your girlfriend!" "No, she's YOUR girlfriend!" thing on me, laughing and punching each other in the arms. I've had people I was dating tell me I wasn't pretty enough. But... I've dated a lot of people. I'm not any kind of charismatic genius, I've just thrown myself into the dating world with great determination and endured a lot of rejection. After many, many many many many years of trying, I'm in a wo…
/r/ExRedPill09/04/24 04:30 AM
3

Yup! I have been the lady who has been told I was the second choice more than once. Doesn't feel good. People who aren't jerks will make a point of not letting you know that you were the second choice, and sometimes it turns out fine.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 03:40 PM
2

Part of the redpill ideology is definitely a belief that this is what all men actually believe and want, no matter what they actually say, and that the ones who say "not me, dude, that's fucked up" are just faking in order to suck up to women. But they've got this flipped, because no sane man wants the redpiller "best case scenario," of a relationship with someone who obeys and takes care of you because she fears you and has had her self esteem ripped to shreds. Here on Reddit, you can see tons …
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 03:28 PM
3

Part of the redpill ideology is definitely a belief that this is what all men actually believe and want, no matter what they actually say, and that the ones who say "not me, dude, that's fucked up" are just faking in order to suck up to women. But they've got this flipped, because no sane man wants the redpiller "best case scenario," of a relationship with someone who obeys and takes care of you because she fears you and has had her self esteem ripped to shreds. Here on Reddit, you can see tons …
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 03:27 PM
3

YES. THANK YOU.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 03:17 PM
2

The way to dating success is to improve your social skills by meeting and talking to more humans of every gender. Regardless of whatever else you do or don't do, spending more of your time learning how to relate to others by doing it will make you more appealing and more confident, and increase the likelihood of meeting women organically.
/r/ExRedPill08/04/24 03:17 PM
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I don't really know anything about these guys but I do know that manosphere influencers are pretty much universally grifters soooooooo
/r/ExRedPill06/04/24 01:33 AM
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Could you just like... Not? You're aware that you're being insensitive but just plowing right on through. To be clear: I haven't endured a lot of the worst shit a lot of other women have. But I'm astounded at the audacity it would take to tell someone else how to feel about pain they haven't endured. This can't be a habit that endears you to others. Don't do that, man!
/r/ExRedPill05/04/24 08:22 PM
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Those spaces are unhealthy, but also resentment is a pretty sane response to people who cause problems for you, and is also not the same as bigotry. Our society's expectation that people who suffer from oppression never develop any blanket negative feelings is unreasonable and inhumane. I'm not a Christian, I don't believe in sainthood or turning the other cheek. There are obviously kinds of reasonable resentment that become maladaptive and harmful, and it sounds like what OP is describing has r…
/r/ExRedPill05/04/24 07:35 PM
2

Just don't read that stuff. I know all the social media algorithms are trying to shove it down your throat, but when you see it, turn it off, look away. It's designed to hook, addict, harm, and confuse you. It's poison, and will only damage your relationships right at a time in your life when you're figuring out who you are and trying to be a good person.
/r/ExRedPill05/04/24 05:02 PM
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There's a lot I could say here, but one important thing I want to flag: BEING EXTREMELY WARY OF MEN IS NOT THE SAME AS HATING MEN. Being nervous around people you have reason to suspect might hurt you is not bigotry, it's common sense. A lot of internet discourse refers to any discussion of things men have done or often do as "misandry," in order to try and shame us for talking about our experiences, and shame us out of talking about how men should and CAN be better. It sounds to me like you've …
/r/ExRedPill04/04/24 03:14 PM
14

Is any amount of anyone telling you this isn't so going to make a difference? If not, why are you posting it here?
/r/ExRedPill04/04/24 02:08 AM
3

With that said, it's not impossible that she's cheating and extraordinarily stupid about covering her tracks -- telling you about these guy friends is pretty much like "hey, look at my tracks!" I have had multiple roommates I can think of (one male, one female) who were this stupid and obnoxious. Watching their idiocy explode on them would have been a lot funnier if I didn't have to deal with the fallout. If this is the EXTREMELY FREAKING UNLIKELY case, please don't extrapolate that to all the w…
/r/ExRedPill01/04/24 05:23 PM
5

Heck to the no! Lifelong feminist who wants to help people detox and find better lives. I've always found awfulness like redpill fascinating, like poking a bruise or lifting up a rock to see gross bugs underneath, and I figure that if I'm going to know what this shit is about, I should put it to use by extending a helping hand. Redpill preys on vulnerable people, and just because those people can behave in some objectionable ways doesn't make them any less human. A lot of the left is like "fuck …
/r/ExRedPill01/04/24 05:15 PM
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If she was doing anything untoward with these guys, she wouldn't be stupid enough to tell you about the time she spends with them. If she lives with her parents, what could she even be getting up to anyway???? It's not impossible that something is happening, but it's really unlikely. Don't punish her for being honest. The best case scenario for this relationship, if you keep on this way, is her dropping all of her friends in order to stave off your jealousy and being entirely dependent on you, a…
/r/ExRedPill01/04/24 04:22 PM
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Why do you think people want to label you as a misogynist exactly? What do we gain from this? What do you lose from it? And... Do you think it's unfair to infer from the things that you say that you, at the very least, distrust women? If that's not what you want people to think, then maybe you should adjust what you're saying? We have only your words here to go on. You might be an absolute prince in some other context, but in this one, you seem to have very negative ideas about women, and to be …
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 10:44 PM
18

...I mean, if you think ladies are intentionally messing with you and are out to get you in this way and others you might be a guy who doesn't like ladies very much?
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 10:26 PM
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First of all, you're misconstruing what people say here, and second of all, what incentive could people on here possibly have to lie to you?????
/r/ExRedPill31/03/24 09:47 PM
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I spent my twenties and thirties worried about "expiring"... Only to find that through my thirties and forties, younger men have only gotten more interested in me. This shit is invented to fuck with your head! Don't read or watch it!
/r/ExRedPill26/03/24 03:22 PM
6

There are plenty of polyamorous people in the world, so plenty of people are absolutely fine with their partners boning someone else, actually. As for why she "had the energy to be with another man": people of any gender engage in sex for a lot of different reasons. It can be a really good distraction from being sad. It sounds like you think that because she had sex with someone, she wasn't "really" suicidal. Which is a really cruel way to think about someone you say you care about a lot. Would …
/r/ExRedPill23/03/24 06:26 PM
6

At no point in any of this do you express any particular interest in the fact that she was unhappy enough to make a sui**** attempt. This reminds me of how a year or so ago, my dear friend had to put his twenty year old cat to sleep. I've never seen him so broken up -- we cried together over her and he was just so traumatized by her final illness, and weeping over how he had to make the decision that ended his best friend's life. The day after he put her down, a friend arrived at his door and de…
/r/ExRedPill23/03/24 04:21 PM
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This shit is most dangerous for kids and teens, who don't have enough life experience to realize it's all bullshit. It's really frightening to me what this is doing to the younger generations -- and how little liberals or lefties are doing to combat it.
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 06:01 PM
1

I'm looking at your posts going back, and it looks like you have good politics and interesting hobbies, and the whole "stable now but dirtbag past" thing means you have good stories, so the only thing I can think of that might be holding you back is misconceptions about what ladies want? Because, I mean, I'm off the market myself* but you certainly sound like the kind of dude me and all of my lady friends my age would be into, and I know TONS of wonderful gals in their 30s/40s who are inexplicab…
/r/ExRedPill22/03/24 01:51 AM
1

I'm surprised that as a guy in your forties, you're having trouble -- are you going for ladies a lot younger than you? In my experience as a woman on the apps, pickings got real slim for me past age 30 for guys my age (just the same guys id seen before over and over, largely with bad attitudes), so any guy around my age who didn't seem like a total schmuck seemed like a catch. If your profile isn't full of red flags, you should be doing great... Again, as long as you're looking for women around …
/r/ExRedPill21/03/24 03:08 PM
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Social media has people convinced that dating is much harder and people are much pickier than they actually are. There is a ton of bullshit misinformation convincing men in particular that women's expectations are very different than they actually are.
/r/ExRedPill20/03/24 09:01 PM
3

Do you have a therapist and/or are you medicated? Anxiety, OCD, and depression are a real bastard :( I have a similar Mean Brain cocktail that very clearly relates to awful family dynamics, so I know the struggle. The interesting thing, though, is that my particular bad brains give me more self-hatey, while yours pushes you towards something we understand as other-people-hatey... Or is redpill fundamentally, in the end, all about externalizing self-loathing? Either way, getting professional help…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/24 03:24 PM
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I think it's healthy to be wary of people who, by dint of socialization, are openly encouraged to hurt you, and who are granted social power over you. The problem is always when you stop seeing any given group as human the same way you and others like you are. Like women, men are individuals and many of them are capable of pushing through this socialization and being freaking awesome. (And, many women are terrible! If you focus on the worst individuals and use them to generalize about a group, y…
/r/ExRedPill19/03/24 03:15 PM
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I have no idea, people are individuals and I don't know what men think. I do think that if you treat women with empathy and kindness and lead with "I like your shoes" rather than "I like your boobs," you're less likely to get met with disgust.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 06:57 PM
12

Popular culture and advertising tell women our bodies are disgusting constantly (alongside condescending and dishonest "you go girl! Love yourself!" cheerleading that doesn't do shit to balance out the bad messages). Every woman you see, from the most gorgeous lady to the most average, really has no idea exactly where she fits in the realm of beauty because she's spent her whole life getting her head spun around about it. So yes, we're afraid too. Our fears are, again, increased by risks of male…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 06:40 PM
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If it makes you feel any better, I've felt this way about men often over the course of my life -- that they would be insulted and disgusted if they knew I was attracted to them. Women really do have the same fears as men (plus fear of violence). As long as you're not staring (glancing is fine! Thinking someone is hot is fine!) or saying creepy shit, you're a-ok.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 06:15 PM
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I think one of the sadder parts of redpill influencer crap is, it trains you to think of everything about dating and sex as adversarial -- to think of women as the enemy, and as sex as something you extract from them, rather than sex as a fun game grownups play together. It's a really rotten way to see the world, and it hurts the guys who buy into it in so many ways, but one of the most depressing things is this incredibly bleak view of sex.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 04:57 AM
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Doesn't it sound depressing to only ever have sex with people who don't like you very much, and who you don't respect? It's not your only option, either -- PUA tactics are only going to work if you're socially adept enough to pull off the manipulation involved, and if you're socially adept enough to do that, then why not try for something that isn't so empty and sleazy? One night stands don't need to be empty and sleazy, mind you ,but they're much more fun for all parties involved without creepy…
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 04:53 AM
6

Even their moms???? What absolute batshittery.
/r/ExRedPill18/03/24 01:25 AM
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Wait, what?! I've never understood how it's possible to believe that men of average appearance are completely unappealing to women and can't possibly be in relationships because... You all have dads, uncles, and grandfathers who look roughly like you and they've all gotten married and had sex at least once. Believing the Internet over the proof of your very own families is WILD, guys. No, you probably will never bang a model, but who cares??? There are loads of women out there who you just gotta…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 08:17 PM
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Never underestimate how wildly insecure our patriarchal society can make women, unfortunately. Redpill garbage tells people that women prefer to be treated badly, but the fact of the matter is, living in a society that tells you that you're subhuman garbage 24-7 (while, hilariously, exhorting you to "love yourself!") can lead to a complete inability to pinpoint when someone is being awful to you vs. thinking "I fucked up and I deserve this." Exhibit A: like all of my youthful relationships, and …
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 08:13 PM
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Adding to what others are saying: the small fraction of redpillers who make videos may be "successful" at having sex with a lot of ladies, but the regular guys who subscribe to their views assuredly are not. They are walking woman-repellant, and the few in relationships are miserable and making the people in their lives miserable (look at their posts and see how much they complain). The best case scenario for these dweebs is a bunch of one night stands or a long-term relationship with someone th…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 05:44 PM
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They aren't successful with women. A handful of them get ladies, the rest are lying.
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 05:39 PM
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Oh, kiddo. I sympathize -- being on the spectrum and socially awkward has definitely led me to say stupid shit I thought was funny approximately one thousand times over the course of my life. I'm going to chime in with the person who said you should apologize sincerely and talk about how you're awkward and this happens when you're nervous. It's hard for people of any gender to interact with people we're interested in, and we all have a lot of toxic "you must play games and NOT SHOW INTEREST, dat…
/r/ExRedPill17/03/24 04:20 PM
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Well, for starters, assuming someone else is automatically doing better than you is a problem. You haven't seen their life, and an arrogant jerk-ass might completely be lying to you about his successes! It's important to remember that everyone of any gender is, inside, just as awkward and uncertain as you are. Nobody has all the answers to anything, and everyone fails and fucks up on occasion. There are people who appear to be "winners," but they still have shitty days and feel lonely and insecu…
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 05:13 PM
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I'm not sure that's true -- why do you think so?
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 04:15 PM
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It's simply a matter of whether that first move happens or not: if you never approach anyone, you'll never get anywhere, while if you approach a lot of people, most of them might reject you but one or two won't.
/r/ExRedPill15/03/24 02:39 PM
7

Most women? Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 07:03 PM
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Obvs I'm not a redpiller (I'm a woman and a feminist), but I suspect that in addition to idealizing women, almost all men have difficulty fully internalizing the fact that women are as human as they are, because they've been so completely socialized to understand women as objects that provide them status and give them things they want. Once experience demonstrates that women are people, who can't simply be purchased and run on the track doing the things they want, they get pissed off -- we're no…
/r/ExRedPill14/03/24 03:50 PM
1

What?
/r/ExRedPill13/03/24 02:47 PM
2

"common sense" is not a convincing argument -- if people disagree with you, the "sense" is less common than you think.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 06:13 PM
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Your evidence: Somewhat higher proportion of older virgins are male (it only says 58% are male, so that means the rest are female? That's only a little more than half!); Your own anecdotal evidence. Very few people have asked me out either, I'm definitely considerably older than you, and I've experienced a TON of rejection in my life. I can cherry pick evidence too.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 05:30 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 02:38 PM
2

How do you know that?
/r/ExRedPill12/03/24 12:09 AM
2

Single men in that particular age cohort, if they're dating older men. Perhaps there are way more single women than men in that older cohort, balancing it out?
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 10:32 PM
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I'm looking at stats that claim that way more women are in relationships than men... Which makes no sense, because who the heck are they in relationships with?! I feel like I'd notice if there were that many lesbians (which hey! If that's the case, more power to 'em!). There are definitely a lot of poly people out there, but I don't know anyone who has a relationship pattern where there's one dude and a dozen ladies -- all the poly folks I know have multi-gendered webs of relationships. What exa…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 08:47 PM
1

What an awful thing to say :( I know TONS of autistic men with loving partners... Including my own wonderful partner. It's not easy or automatic, but nothing about relationships is.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 08:38 PM
2

Have you tried to have an honest conversation where you just basically tell him what you've told us here? That you love him very much and value what a great dad he was when you were younger, but that his words are hurting you? Adding some info about how people in the "redpill" world are harming themselves by being sucked into this mindset as well? I think the first step is to be really honest about how you feel, with all of the love and hurt it includes. Then, once he knows... It may be time to …
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 08:36 PM
1

A lot of other people have spoken to how unusual the dynamic in your office is, and how you'd never notice all the people who don't behave like this because they're not talking about it (because there's nothing to talk about!) but it bears repeating. But also, I'd like to address your thoughts about how unbearable it would be if this happens to you, from the perspective of someone a little older. I've experienced a TON of bad behavior from partners, friends, family, etc. But I also have really a…
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 08:08 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 07:23 PM
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Speaking from experience as a woman: I've always been the one who does those "random little things." Where are you getting your info?
/r/ExRedPill11/03/24 07:18 PM
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