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| 4 | Maybe rape culture is a thing? | Discussion | GlibPerspective | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:38 PM |
| 3 | Has the unfolding of the recent sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein and others affected how you think of gender dynamics? If so, how? | GlibPerspective | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 06:49 AM | |
| 2 | Q4All: To what degree is The Red Pill community a cult. | Discussion | GlibPerspective | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 11:35 PM |
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| 1 | Negging, let's unpack it.did you miss the part where I differentiated between playful teasing and attempts to attack someone's self esteem? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 08:35 PM |
| 2 | Negging, let's unpack it.I haven't seen it in person, but you're talking about negging in the context of RP strategy. If you haven't read stuff on TRP that's insidious in nature I don't really know why you're even talking about this on here. Is your argument that the only people who criticize negging are the socially inept? Do you fail to see how people could use the concept (as framed by the label) in a way that is malicious and manipulative? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 08:21 PM |
| 0 | Negging, let's unpack it.Black culture's v different so I'll take your word on it. This type of behavior definitely wouldn't work on the girls I'm interested in, but I guess I also wouldn't be in the sort of venue where that dude is filming. I don't think that playful banter is for the emotionally damaged. I'm differentiating between playful teasing and the more insidious form of negging that attempts to undermine someone's sense of security and self confidence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 08:16 PM |
| 5 | Negging, let's unpack it.those videos are retarded social media "pranks" and have no bearing on social reality. Th 'negging' that works is just a dumb way of explaining playful teasing. The idea of sniping someone's self esteem to try and endear them towards you is an excellent mechanism to filter out emotionally stable people who are capable of setting boundaries with others. It's one of the reasons people say RP techniques only work on emotionally damaged women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 08:11 PM |
| 3 | "Thirsty"/horny guys dedicating their youth to getting laidEvery think he might be using the "getting laid" thing as a way to compensate and appear cool despite being a studious academic type? Maybe he gets laid and also gets shit done during the day? I don't know why the two have to be mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 07:54 PM |
| 3 | Are boyish-looking men screwed?pursuing a goal that's sustainable and iterative will provide a greater and longer lasting sense of meaning, even if it's all ultimately an illusion. And yes, having self respect will most definitely make you more successful in dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 05:27 AM |
| 2 | Are boyish-looking men screwed?go to therapy and learn to develop some self respect | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 04:38 AM |
| 1 | Are boyish-looking men screwed?i'm half asian and very boyish. I've done decently well for myself (n= ~20). You have to work harder but it's still definitely possible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/18 04:36 AM |
| 2 | Claiming that most women (or men) do not party, hookup, or go out drinking is a flat out lie.Maybe in your eyes, but I think intent matters. Otherwise you're just projecting male insecurity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4ALL: Is it maturity that makes older women look for beta providers instead of alphas or lack of options? Or maybe something else?hire a trainer and lose the weight. you'll get plenty of attention in no time. maybe do therapy too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 09:19 PM |
| 6 | Claiming that most women (or men) do not party, hookup, or go out drinking is a flat out lie.There's a major difference between having a few casual encounters in your life and consistently and actively seeking out casual sex. Many young people go through a phase where they seek out casual sex, but many also learn rather quickly that casual sex is unfulfilling. The CC is a thing, but there's a high turnover rate and only damaged women stay in it for an extended period of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/02/18 05:08 PM |
| 9 | Women enjoy casual sex far more than they let on.Is this what your relationships look like? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 05:46 PM |
| 11 | Women enjoy casual sex far more than they let on.What world are you living in where a girl having a few previous sexual partners is some terrible thing? I've fucked a good number of people. I would hope the same is true of the girl I'm with. I want her to be good at fucking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 05:45 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!You make weak arguments | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 03:29 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!I mean yeah, you could look at it that way but that still doesn't mean the government is penalizing people. Not acting isn't an action of penalization. The world is unfair and you're asking the government to make it less unfair. Important distinction. JP draws a line between people who have jobs and people who are career driven. Men are more likely to be career driven due to gender-based temperamental differences. When competing with hyper-competitive men, women who chose to have children strugg… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 03:27 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!Make the points then you fool. Or are you just trying to rile me? She misrepresented JP's ideas. I corrected her. She said "no". The video she mentioned didn't even support her claims. Quite the compelling fucking argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 03:01 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!How does the government financially penalize anyone? There is no fine or tax for maternity leave. The government doesn't set day care prices. Nor does it tell companies to withhold pay during maternity leave. The government is not penalizing women, it's just failing to provide assistance that you deem necessary. These are fundamentally different things. This is all besides the point though. JP's argument has nothing to do with the state of government assistance. He's an individualist, and his po… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 02:58 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!I can deal with her points easily because they're shit. I want her to point to a specific instance because I know that if I just address the video she'll try to weasel out of things by using the ambiguity she left herself. Yeah, he says he's not sure if men and women can work together, but what does that mean in the context of the conversation? Surely not that he thinks women are incapable of having careers, or should go back to the kitchen, or just stay at home and raise the kids. She has a poo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/02/18 02:39 PM |
| 1 | Women prefer the sex of their more attractive lovers than the men they end up with long term.Can you just make a thread telling everyone you're sexually insecure? It'd be a lot more straightforward and we could get to the heart of the issue faster. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/02/18 04:31 PM |
| 9 | Women select for guys who can pull off social risks. Men in the #metoo movement are being punished for failing to pull off certain social risks. Instead of blaming men for harassment, we're blaming men for lacking social acuity.comedians tend to be ugly or weird looking. In fact I've noticed adonis looking men struggle to be successful as comics. Sure, girls who are attracted to them might laugh at their jokes some, but I think there's something being a funny looking person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/02/18 03:26 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (18 February 2018)no kids! but yeah the sex has been great. She's in great shape too so I'm loving it and thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (18 February 2018)yeah it's obviously oedipal but that doesn't necessarily mean that I'm doing it for the wrong reasons. She's moving in the summer so it'll be short lived either way. I'm not really concerned. Not like I'm looking for a LTR with her or anything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 02:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4Men: What is more risky, having a child out of wedlock or getting married?it's not that outlandish of an idea | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 02:37 PM |
| 3 | Q4Men: What is more risky, having a child out of wedlock or getting married?guys used to do this shit all the time, especially touring musicians back before the pill was invented | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 05:35 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (18 February 2018)it's hard to tell tbh, i've only know her for 2 days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (18 February 2018)went on a date with a 35 year old woman yesterday and hit it off (I'm 25). Spent two nights together and it helped me realize how much the stuff discussed on this forum doesn't matter. Funny thing is, she claims to be an anarcho feminist. We'll see how that plays out lol but I've been enjoying her company so far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/02/18 05:08 AM |
| 1 | Is a guy a jerk if he leaves his wife/girlfriend after becoming more successful?wait what happened with Bourdain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:25 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!No, I'm not hand holding her stupid argument. If she wants to make a claim, she can quote a specific instance where Jordan Peterson says what she claims he does. If he's such a chauvinist it shouldn't be that hard. Rooting through 17 minutes of footage to find what I imagine is a 30 second exchange isn't my responsibility, and does not pass as a citation anywhere else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:21 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!Name the obstacles and solutions please | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 10:20 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!I said people make it work despite the obstacles of their government. A few times. Of course the system should be improved. It's an anti-family anti-worker mess. The fact that people make it work despite those obstacles proves him wrong. Explain this. How is government "creating obstacles" to prevent women from taking maternity leave? Or are you asking the government to provide assistance to women. Very different things. No, there's no direct quote from you calling him a women hater and I'm glad… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 08:49 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!What's your argument here. Either the system's good enough or it should be improved. You seem to be both arguing against JP's diagnosis that the current system is less than ideal, but also arguing that the current system is unfair to women. Which one is it? EDIT: Also my source for feminists calling him a women hater is your very comment. You're railing on the dude for stating that maternity leave is complicated and creates a difficult problem for women to deal with when faced with being both a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 08:39 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!yup, you've got nothing. Thanks for all the bullshit, please do try to clean it up on your way out | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 08:12 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!I'm not combing through 17 minute video to try and find a quote to prove your point. You're making a claim. Provide evidence or admit you're bullshitting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 08:07 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!I mean, people make it work but the current system is obviously less than ideal. I don't know why feminists can talk about maternity leave (or lack thereof) being an imperfect solution but when JP does it he's suddenly a women hater. You're silly if you think the government can change the fact that women endure a torrential downpour of hormones for 9 months and then need to spend some time post childbirth recovering and bonding with their child. How do you institute a policy that removes the wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 08:03 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!timestamped link or get outta here. you've already shown yourself to blatantly misrepresent the views of others | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 07:58 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!so you don't have a source. Cool. Thanks for playing, good luck next time, do not pass go, do not collect $200. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 07:30 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!source it or you're wrong I've watched enough of his content to know you have no idea what you're talking about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:57 PM |
| 6 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!Yeah, that's a major misrepresentation of JP's views. He doesn't think the world would be better if men went out to work and women stayed home. He does mention that no one has solved the problem of how to have a career and be a mother at the same time, and that sort of conflict is incredible taxing. He's also realistic about the fact that women are going to take time off from work to have children, and that it will affect their long term earning potential. He also absolutely does not believe in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:46 PM |
| 1 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!explain jordan peterson chauvanism | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 06:21 PM |
| 2 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!make a moral argument then. or you could just yell shame on you at people and hope they agree to with your moral compass completely | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 05:50 PM |
| 9 | If men want to spend their lives at the gym, go for it!you could try making cohesive arguments rather than attempting to morally shame people, but I guess it's obvious you're not posting in good faith | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 04:09 PM |
| 3 | [CMV] Porn and sexual repression lead to MTF and Autogynephiliaexplain this correlation. Have you met a bunch of trans people or something? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/02/18 12:25 AM |
| 4 | [CMV] Porn and sexual repression lead to MTF and Autogynephiliaor maybe it has something to do with us all starting out as women in the womb? It would make sense that maybe the flush of hormones that cause you to become male might 'miss' your brain more frequently than the other way around. We don't really understand the trans thing but to say the vast majority are failed men trying to be women to take the easy way out is so tremendously speculative and stupid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 10:28 PM |
| 1 | Casual sex is easy to attain, yet at the same time it is hard to believe guys have casual sex?it's a metaphor ever heard of it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 06:48 AM |
| 1 | Casual sex is easy to attain, yet at the same time it is hard to believe guys have casual sex?it astounds me that arguments like these completely fail to take personal chemistry into account | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/02/18 04:05 AM |
| 7 | Why are TERPERS supporting rape as a sexual strategy?Yeah I dunno. I hook up with people. I choke girls and shit. I always explicitly ask them if it's okay, especially if it's the first time we're having sex. If they say no or seem uncomfortable then I don't do the rough stuff. The idea of just aggressively slapping/choking/etc without any sort of dialogue speaks to a complete misunderstanding of how sex works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/02/18 09:04 PM |
| 1 | Q4all Have you ever seen a female model that dated down ?that's a rule for when you're just getting to know someone. No point in texting until you've developed a rapport in person. Seeing as TRP is all about short-term sexual relationships, it makes sense the vast majority of texting will occur during that initial 'getting to know you' stage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/02/18 08:08 PM |
| 2 | CMV.Women will cheat on you if they find a man with a better SMVshe's not your first choice either. Get over yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/18 10:04 PM |
| 2 | Something I've noticed about TRPs....Is your argument they're poor so fuck them? Are issues experienced by the vast majority of people who struggle financially not relevant? This whole post seems to be saying we shouldn't care about the problems of poor or even middle class people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/02/18 09:58 PM |
| 6 | TRP tactics are devastating to communities. A Gynocentric Sexual Marketplace is necessary to maintain a functioning society.one of the main slogans of TRP is "enjoy the decline" They don't give a fuck about the long term stability of the system. They view feminism as having broken society and now they're getting theirs while Rome burns to the ground. I also think your conception of gynocentricism differs from how TRP views it. According to RP, we're currently in a heavily gynocentric system. TRP is a response to the new rules introduced by feminism by refusing to care about the female imperative. BP world obsession w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 10:50 PM |
| 3 | Got banned from the red pill for asking this question maybe y’all can answer itwhat's your aim here Electra. This is a shitty argument and you're usually better than this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 02:46 AM |
| 1 | The SMP is fucked up because of menI hear this sentiment a lot but have never once seen evidence to support it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/02/18 01:48 AM |
| 2 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?the topic was being killed during sex. Pretty sure no one with personal experience regarding that subject is around to talk about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 03:43 AM |
| 3 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?the topic was being killed during sex. Pretty sure no one with personal experience regarding that subject is around to talk about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 03:35 AM |
| 2 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?she dismissed his opinions because they were coming from a male. And i'm not countering the idea that women experience pain during sex so I don't know why you're focusing on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 03:12 AM |
| 3 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?someone retorted that death isn't really likely enough to worry about and she responded by saying he wasn't a women. but yeah sure women experience pain during sex sometimes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 02:41 AM |
| 3 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?k solid debate | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 12:47 AM |
| 3 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?I mean if my statements were hyperbolic and only aligned to one specific perspective I think that'd be totally reasonable. Isn't feminism all about telling men their opinions are wrong? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/02/18 12:14 AM |
| 10 | Why do we talk about sex like men are getting something, and women are giving something up?Why should I ever listen to a women's opinion? Oh wait, because it'd be dumb to dismiss someone's ideas solely because of their gender | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Can an Alpha get tired of spinning plates and want a LTR or was he always a beta?you spent your entire 20's in a LTR. Seeing as RP is entirely focused on the mechanics of the sexual marketplace when you're in that age group it stands to reason it wouldn't resonate with you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Can an Alpha get tired of spinning plates and want a LTR or was he always a beta?i mean you're using personal anecdote to try and argue RP ideas aren't true tbh with your personal history I'm not entirely surprised you'd still believe in BP stuff. You need a certain amount of data to start noticing the trends with girls, and the RP is mostly right in a very generalized sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Can an Alpha get tired of spinning plates and want a LTR or was he always a beta?n count | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Can an Alpha get tired of spinning plates and want a LTR or was he always a beta?Define long term | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/02/18 05:29 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Overt kindness in men is not attractive because it embodies feminine nature.true kindness comes from a position of power. to be weak and harmless is not to be kind | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 07:07 PM |
| 2 | Discussion: In the dating world, the majority of women have it a lot easier than the majority of menI use tinder almost exclusively as my means of getting dates. I'm a totally average looking half-asian guy that's not particularly muscular. I'm 5'8" I've matched with 217 girls since April of last year, and probably anywhere from 500-800 girls on tinder in total (I delete my profile once and a while to get a new pass on people who might have swiped left on me). It's hard to know how many dates that translates into, but I generally find myself having to slow down on tinder so as not to have more… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/02/18 12:02 AM |
| 1 | Human evolution wouldn't make sense if TRP is correct.all traits that slowly disappeared during our evolution. what does this mean. your argument's not really coherent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Human evolution wouldn't make sense if TRP is correct.The theory is that people on the spectrum are exposed to higher levels of pre-natal testosterone at a key developmental period. That means their mom had elevated testosterone levels at a particular moment in time that coincided to the development of some part of their brain or whatever. It absolutely doesn't mean that autists have higher testosterone level than average. Transgender men are given testosterone so that their levels match what regular men naturally produce, so you're wrong there too… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 05:27 AM |
| 2 | Do you think #metoo will scare away good men from asking women out?Men vent anonymously online because to do otherwise is to be labelled a misogynist. Women vent publicly on facebook and get sympathy likes and a bunch of white-knight, male feminists telling them how disgusting men are. See the difference? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/01/18 05:24 AM |
| 16 | Women want less sex in relationships because men don't put nearly as much effort into being sexually attractive.I've gone on plenty of dates where I had dressed nice and the other person looked dumpy. Women have significantly less testosterone than men, which is the primary hormone for establishing libido. It's preposterous to claim that women are as sexually driven as men are, and I have no idea how anyone could possibly stand to believe that to be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/01/18 07:05 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Women Get More From Men than Men Get From Womeni've dated many women, they're not all like that. You need to select differently if you keep running into that problem | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 09:37 PM |
| 1 | Rise in narcissism among womenwhen I am a grown adult Wait, how old are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/01/18 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Q4Men: would you marry/ LTR a woman who doesn’t do her hair, wear makeup, or dress stylishly?dude please get therapy. there's a lot of insecurity in this, and I feel bad for you. I've been in a similar place, but getting mad and viewing women as sub-human isn't really the answer. You're barely coherent | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 07:32 AM |
| 9 | Q4Men: would you marry/ LTR a woman who doesn’t do her hair, wear makeup, or dress stylishly?Are you autistic or something. Do you have any idea what projection means? Because you're not using that phrase in any way that makes sense. When guys say "I want to date a girl who doesn't wear make up" girls hear "wearing no makeup will make you more attractive". This is similar to girls saying they wish guys would be more "nice" or "kind" or "polite" with them. Guys hear that, and think that being "nice" makes them more attractive, which is obviously not the case. What women are stating is th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 07:16 AM |
| 7 | Q4Men: would you marry/ LTR a woman who doesn’t do her hair, wear makeup, or dress stylishly?so your girlfriend's good looking without makeup? congrats! Would you prefer to date someone that looked ugly without makeup, but slightly less ugly with makeup? No? Cool, you proved my point Also your point about teenage girls looking good without makeup is laughable. Teenage girls are peek fertility, I'm pretty sure every guy gets distracted by them. Also, they're young and suck at putting on makeup so they end up looking like a clown sometimes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Why do even very attractive men choose to be monogamous?jesus christ how hard is it to understand an innate human desire for intimacy. RP gets all evo psych about base sexual instincts, but fails to understand that all humans have to a drive to be recognized as individuals and appreciated as such. Sure you can get that from your bros, but as you get older your social circle starts slowly drifting apart. Naturally, people turn towards romantic relationships when that happens. I agree with another commenter who mentioned that only people who haven't ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 05:40 AM |
| 12 | Q4Men: would you marry/ LTR a woman who doesn’t do her hair, wear makeup, or dress stylishly?Guys who say they want to date a girl who doesn't wear make really mean they want to date a girl that's naturally beautiful and looks good in everything without trying. Similar to how girls say they want a guy that's nice but what they really mean is they want their hot alpha to be less of a dick to them. I wouldn't fuck any of the girls in that picture. But I have had relationships with girls who don't wear makeup, have low maintenance hairstyles, dress casually, or all of the above. But tradit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/01/18 04:41 AM |
| 1 | Why would an attractive man need TRP? What's the purpose of it for men with ability with women?the projection is strong with this one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 07:45 PM |
| 6 | Why would an attractive man need TRP? What's the purpose of it for men with ability with women?lol got em | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 07:44 PM |
| 1 | Why would an attractive man need TRP? What's the purpose of it for men with ability with women?jesus christ this post reeks of autism. Are you that incapable of imagining the inner life of other people? Some people enjoy being altruistic. It makes them feel good about themselves. Some people don't orient their life to be 100% egotistical at all times. How is that hard to grasp | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/01/18 07:43 PM |
| 2 | The recent #metoo case (Aziz Ansari) and the reactions to it proves that the average woman can't presume to be safe in the private company of a male.surprise surprise some people are sexually aggressive Should we legislate that all sex must be performed gently in the missionary position after signing consent forms in triplicate in front of a notary? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 09:28 PM |
| 3 | The recent #metoo case (Aziz Ansari) and the reactions to it proves that the average woman can't presume to be safe in the private company of a male.I don't know how you "shove fingers" down someone's throat for 30 minutes without consent. I don't know how you stick your fingers down anyone's throat if they don't want you to actually. That whole statement seems to be lacking a lot of context. Am I supposed to believe he's just sitting next to her repeatedly putting his fingers in her mouth with nothing else going on? Or maybe just maybe he's fingering her during this whole time, seeing as they're already naked. Either way, her account is wei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 09:20 PM |
| 5 | The recent #metoo case (Aziz Ansari) and the reactions to it proves that the average woman can't presume to be safe in the private company of a male.you must be a troll One person hired Israeli spies to stalk and intimidate his victims, the other stopped having sex with someone, put his clothes on, and watched Seinfeld when asked. But I guess facts don't matter when moral binaries are this fun | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/01/18 09:16 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Do girls/women understand the damage of calling a guy a 'creep' in public?are you in highschool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 11:53 PM |
| 0 | There is not an abundance of high quality womenlink? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/01/18 03:38 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: Are you naturally dominant or is dominance something that you had to learn?nope, definitely something I had to learn to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/01/18 02:49 PM |
| 2 | CMV: RP strategy sexually selects for liabilities to the advancement of the speciesWhat you're describing is group selection, an outdated evolutionary idea that's mostly been debunked. Animals will sometimes exhibit behavior that looks like it's for the good of the species, but it turns out that that's usually not the case. What's happening most of the time is kin selection: where you sacrifice your probability of survival/reproduction to help the survival/reproduction of your relatives. Individuals don't give a rats ass about the evolution of the species. Whatever strategy pr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/01/18 09:28 PM |
| 1 | Is men's lack of preference in women an objectively good thing?Because sexual attraction is all about making them babies. Do you think your dick knows that you're shooting ropes into a plastic bag? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 04:46 AM |
| 1 | Is men's lack of preference in women an objectively good thing?We're not talking about fucking marriage here. You may not even see this girl ever again. Why would it matter if she speaks five languages fluently or makes 500k a year? because that shit would imply good genes, as it does with men. Sure, guys aren't as incentivized to care about that sort of thing, but it's still a definite plus. Not a requirement, but a plus. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 04:14 AM |
| 2 | Ancient red pill wisdomSo they determined internal psychic states by the direction the fish swim? What proof is there that every time a fish swims downwards it's sexually excited. Is this 100% consistent? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 04:07 AM |
| 7 | Ancient red pill wisdomSounds like whoever wrote this was overlaying his conception of human mating behavior onto fish. How were they measuring what emotional states the fish were experiencing? Do these fish even experience aggression/fear? Or do they just display behavior that we associate with those human emotions? We can't even accurately quantify human emotional states, and you can talk to humans. Bad science, not worthy of any basis of sexual philosophy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 03:44 AM |
| 1 | Feminist critique of the MeToo movementagreed | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 03:39 AM |
| 5 | Feminist critique of the MeToo movementI saw a guy on my facebook feed come out with a story of sexual assault if not straight up rape. They had hooked up previously, and she said she really needed to talk to him in private while they were both at a party. He went into a room with her, and when he turned around after closing the door she was holding a knife. Next thing he knew the knife was in his face and she was demanding that he fuck her. He posted this as part of the #MeToo movement and a bunch of people told him to shut up and s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 03:38 AM |
| 1 | Feminist critique of the MeToo movementelectra confirmed as Matt Damon in disguise | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 03:33 AM |
| 6 | Feminist critique of the MeToo movementlink to this thread please | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/01/18 03:31 AM |
| 1 | I am king of beta males, Lord of Cuckville. Want to stop.I'd reach out to get a therapist. No shame in getting help | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 06:26 AM |
| 1 | Hinge data: top 10% of men get 60% of all likes, bottom 50% get 4.3%But you can do things about looks. Looks aren't 100% facial aesthetics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 02:49 AM |
| 1 | Hinge data: top 10% of men get 60% of all likes, bottom 50% get 4.3%I though blackpill was there's nothing you can do about looks? Or is everyone who's an incel have some sort of disfigurement going on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/18 12:56 AM |
| 1 | Why is there no “Red Pill” equivalent for women?I’ve heard men say this, but I don’t understand exactly what they expect feminists to do? We can’t even stop our own victimization, how are we going to stop yours? "Waaah! I'm a child take care of me! I don't care about your problems but you must come and prostrate yourself before my oppression! Also I'm strong and liberated and totally your equal and how dare you say anything to the contrary! Also, why haven't you fixed all my problems you sexist scum!" There are so many problems with your argu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 07:38 PM |
| 4 | Why is homosexuality a taboo in many societies and cultures?It's worth noting that the study assumed that a faster association of 'me' with 'gay' indicated an implicit homosexuality, which is arguably flawed. Great methodology there. Totally not ideologically driven research | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/18 05:47 PM |
| 1 | Daily reminder that marriage is high class and divorce laws really aren't so badcommon law marriage bro | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/01/18 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Q4W: Are men wrong in assuming you're magical creatures?incels got banned and now we must all suffer | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/12/17 12:55 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy, or the hyper-inflation of male attractiveness, is not caused by feminism, but by America's fixation on hyper-masculinity.yes | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/12/17 04:13 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy, or the hyper-inflation of male attractiveness, is not caused by feminism, but by America's fixation on hyper-masculinity.you're fooling yourself if you've lived in a major city for any period of time you'd know everyone's constantly having casual sex. much more so than relationships | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/17 04:17 PM |
| 3 | The main thing keeping men from dating fat women is social pressure, not lack of attractionjesus christ no wonder no one will fuck you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/12/17 07:28 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Saturday Gender Wars Megathread (16 December 2017)fun fact: true equality has no weight in behavioral genetics | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/12/17 12:50 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Saturday Gender Wars Megathread (16 December 2017)most people say that they'll "add" you on facebook/instagram. at least where I'm at | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/17 05:01 AM |
| 1 | It is not always necessary for a society to abolish gender roles in order to be egalitarianThe reason men dominate in certain roles is because those roles are considered high-status. If you change what's considered high-status men will shift and out compete women in those fields. It's happened multiple times. Also, status matters more for men for a variety of reasons. Women are hypergamous, so if you want a stable, predominantly pair-bonded society, then you need to ensure most men are higher htan most women when it comes to status. Socio-economic inequality between young men is a dir… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/12/17 04:57 AM |
| 1 | CMV regarding my strategy to deal with an angry girlfriendwhy are you dating this person? Having a tantrum and throwing things at you for a minor transgression is not acceptable behavior. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/17 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Is there an opposite to the Cock Carousel?I enjoyed it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/17 03:11 AM |
| 5 | Brain elasticity as the source of all our problemsyou posted this same dumb cognitive bro-science a few days ago | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/12/17 02:28 AM |
| 6 | Dating advice for women?AKA your target audience | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 06:22 PM |
| 7 | Dating advice for women?go to the gym and get hot. don't be a psycho bitch. That's really all you need as a women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 06:21 PM |
| 2 | Dating advice for women?if you have to ask.... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 06:20 PM |
| 11 | Dating advice for women?this is all terrible dating advice for women actually looking for a partner | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 06:18 PM |
| 2 | This will probably start a firestorm on here, but do desirable, busy, high-powered men actually care about N-count or not? Does Red Pill advice to women who are seeking to marry these high-value men make sense or is it delusional?Consider that every time a woman has natural sex with a man she actually absorbs some of his physical essence (his genetic essence at that) and uses it to build other parts of her physical self. She also absorbs some of his energetic essence as well - and the men with whom women casually choose to share their sexual selves often pass on negative energy. In this sense women who have casual sex partners can become literal dumpsters for the genetic material and negative energy of the men they are c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 03:38 PM |
| 2 | Q4Women, If you had to choose one: would you rather have your man be sexist or autistic?this thread will fail as it depends on women accurately and honestly self-reporting their dating habits | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/12/17 03:25 AM |
| 5 | CMV: A woman sleeping around damages her prospects like a man being a domineering alpha damages his.you seem to be in a mood today | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/17 07:47 PM |
| 6 | Brain elasticity is the source of all our problems.this is the dumbest cognitive bro-science I've read yet | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/12/17 07:45 PM |
| 3 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?If my frame's strong enough don't I always have the high road? I kid, I kid | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 10:08 PM |
| 2 | What's with this sub and chest beating, self-congratulatory circle jerks and dumb gotcha trap questions?at least i've got the high road going for me, which is nice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 09:35 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: What would it take to inspire submissiveness in you?disgusting BDSM or other odd relationship dynamics confirmed vanilla sex life | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 05:17 PM |
| 2 | [CMV] He's Asking For Itwhat world do you live in? When has that ever in your life happened to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 04:55 PM |
| 1 | Placing kids, but especially boys, in team sports is healthy for their social development and will likely benefit them in many facets of life.not really, more of a complaint. That's why I responded to the automod | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/12/17 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Placing kids, but especially boys, in team sports is healthy for their social development and will likely benefit them in many facets of life.why the fuck am I still subscribed here DAE think sports might be beneficial for kids (but also sexual!!) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/12/17 10:20 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Truly beta men are rare because most men want to be alphas even if they can't make it happen.lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/12/17 03:55 PM |
| 1 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.I think that's a rather reductive way of looking at what happened there. Also, I fail to see how it just being ingroup-outgroup precludes you from acting in barbarous ways. If average people are capable of that sort of behavior simply due to ingroup-outgroup, what makes you think you're so pure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/12/17 04:56 PM |
| 3 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.Guards soon used these prisoner counts to harass the prisoners, using physical punishment such as protracted exercise for errors in the prisoner count. Sanitary conditions declined rapidly, exacerbated by the guards' refusal to allow some prisoners to urinate or defecate anywhere but in a bucket placed in their cell. As punishment, the guards would not let the prisoners empty the sanitation bucket. Mattresses were a valued item in the prison, so the guards would punish prisoners by removing thei… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 10:50 PM |
| 7 | CMV: proponents of "rape culture" not grok that the problem isn't emotional stuff like unfairness, but simple lack of logic.lol, the average person is capable of an unspeakable level of horror if the chains of society are lifted off of them. See the Stanford Prison experiment for example. You're a fool to think you're exempt from the devil that lives inside all humans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Charisma, social IQ, and social skills.All of this can be learned, just some people are more naturally inclined to it. Hard work beats talent as long as talent doesn't work hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Q4Men: What do you think about Tinder?It's good fun if you live in a major city. I had more dates and phone numbers than I had time, and I'm hardly a Chad. I wouldn't waste your money on super likes. Similar to regular dating, if you're strategizing for individuals you'll fail as a guy. Figure out how to filter for the demographic that buys what you're selling and use the occasional super like to try and snipe someone who seems particularly compatible with you. Where I live people use it for a mixture of hookups and also just dating… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/12/17 12:44 AM |
| 1 | How important is external validation and positive feedback to someone's emotional health, self-esteem, and self-actualization?what the fuck does this have to do with TRP or TBP we're being drowned by incel bullshit ever since they're sub got deleted. Can the mods do something about this? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: Charisma, social IQ, and social skills.Can you just ask how to develop charisma rather than posting these roundabout pseudo-conjectures? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/11/17 09:58 PM |
| 1 | As a man, the biggest thing I envy about women is the 'sisterhood' and female solidarity that doesn't seem to have a male equivalentsources please? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/11/17 01:47 AM |
| 3 | Discussion: N-count.Yeah for sure, and that makes sense. The thing is, I don't think a guy with an N count of 30 before the age of 25 is necessarily a sign of someone who's maladjusted. That doesn't logically make sense, which is why I think it's an illogical sexual drive. At least to a certain degree. I guess the counter to that would be the point that having a high N count as a guy is a vastly different experience than having a high N count as a girl. Or not. Still not entirely sure on that one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/11/17 01:41 AM |
| 12 | Discussion: N-count.I'm decently promiscuous, and for the most part don't really care how many partners a girl has been with. Still, there is a limit before I get a sense of disgust. 12? Fine. 17? Sure. 50? Maybe not. It's not logical at all, but assuming human sexuality is logical is a bit of a mistake. I do agree that the vast majority of fuss over N counts has to do with male insecurity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/11/17 05:10 PM |
| 1 | How prevalent is female sexual harassment of males? More common than you'd think or almost nonexistent?So all of women's problems are because society's organized incorrectly but men kill themselves at disproportionately higher rates because they don't take personal responsibility? I feel sorry for whomever ends up dating you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/17 03:33 PM |
| 1 | How prevalent is female sexual harassment of males? More common than you'd think or almost nonexistent?claiming the women are wonderful effect is actually because women are indeed wonderful lol you're blinded by ideology | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/11/17 03:31 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Is a guy an asshole or wrong for breaking up with a girlfriend due to lack of sex or not getting good sex?Because they're vanilla as they come and don't understand that some people have sexual needs outside of the ordinary. The check list comment is an obvious flag that they don't really understand sexual compulsions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/17 08:53 PM |
| 3 | Q4BP: Is a guy an asshole or wrong for breaking up with a girlfriend due to lack of sex or not getting good sex?Says the person on a forum specifically about sexuality I just find it hard to believe that you've never had sex with someone who you didn't feel compatible with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/17 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Is a guy an asshole or wrong for breaking up with a girlfriend due to lack of sex or not getting good sex?you're dodging the question | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/17 08:34 PM |
| 2 | Q4BP: Is a guy an asshole or wrong for breaking up with a girlfriend due to lack of sex or not getting good sex?how many people have you had sex with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/11/17 08:21 PM |
| 1 | [Q4ALL] Would Jesus Christ Get Tinder Matches?the gayest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 10:54 PM |
| 2 | Q4All: When TRP says "blue pill" do they mean liberal?TRP is more conservative when it comes to sex and gender roles. lol no shit | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 08:49 PM |
| 2 | What do you think of limiting flair length and caps?huh? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Saturday Gender Wars Megathread (18 November 2017)straight from the mouth of those about whom we may not speak no that part | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 01:36 AM |
| 1 | Weekly Saturday Gender Wars Megathread (18 November 2017)This might be old news to this sub, but I found this article in The Atlantic, written by a women I might add, that spells out pretty much the same thesis that TRP has regarding the current Sexual Market Place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 01:36 AM |
| 2 | Weekly Saturday Gender Wars Megathread (18 November 2017)what's your point here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/11/17 12:23 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Masculinity is a meaningless term outside of what women perceive it to be.Ah, I get what you're saying. I guess I just think of Alpha and Beta of being looser concepts, and define them differently from you. I guess using your terminology he'd be describing a "Beta Chad" or "high beta" or something? How is that different from Alpha in your worldview? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/11/17 12:35 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Masculinity is a meaningless term outside of what women perceive it to be.lol, mind expanding what you mean by that? also, I started watching that video before I submitted that comment and you replied before it was finished so you didn't even listen to his argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 11:56 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Masculinity is a meaningless term outside of what women perceive it to be.I think you're misunderstanding where I'm coming from. Jordan Peterson to the rescue! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 11:53 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Masculinity is a meaningless term outside of what women perceive it to be.Men compete amongst other men to determine who's highest in the dominance hierarchy. Women select for those who are at the top of the hierarchy. So in many ways masculinity is more relevant to other men than women. I think this explains a lot of the latent homoeroticism in a lot of depictions of masculinity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 08:13 PM |
| 1 | UMichigan Sexual Assault CaseIt is unacceptable behavior. Who says? You? People have radically different ideas of propriety and acceptability and college is a place where a lot of the stuffy ideas about what's acceptable get pushed aside. Clearly the flatmate had never consented to any form of sexual activity in the bunks if that activity could be detected and they were attempting to sleep. Not only had they not consented to it, it was obvious there was a previous shared expectation this was not to happen. I see nothing in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 07:15 PM |
| 3 | UMichigan Sexual Assault Caselol, it's college. get over yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 03:12 PM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Why does TRP put such emphasis on female looks rather than female intelligence?I value intelligence a good bit in who I'm dating. I've gone on plenty of dates where the person doesn't seem to have thought deeply about the world and can't articulate anything about themselves beyond the TV shows they watch. I get bored and leave after I finish my drink on those dates. Not everyone is like that though. The truth is, if you're just looking for sex she just needs to not be so dumb that it's a turn off. People have different thresholds for how dumb that is. I kind of base my mas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 03:04 PM |
| 7 | Q4WOMEN: Why did you make the decisions you made?Dude, women have agency. Ever have a friend ask you to hang out and you decide not to? You didn't have some plan to make them feel insecure by not going. You just didn't feel like it for sex. Same deal with women turning down sex in relationships. Now if it's a pattern, it's likely a symptom of the relationship not being on good terms. But that's a different scenario. IMO, the whole "women have a dastardly plan whenever they turn down sex/"shit test"/don't concede to my dominance" schtick is rea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/11/17 03:34 AM |
| 4 | Q4BP: Opinion on men with rape fantasies?you forgot the part where, for women, it can be about being overwhelmingly desirable to the point where your partner loses control Also, there's a certain level of trust to powerplay that came make things that seem degrading (literally choking on a cock, slapping/hitting, choking etc) actually rather strong acts of intimacy. As a guy you know that the girl trusts you, values your needs, etc. It's both intensely intimate and aggressive at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 04:13 PM |
| 0 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normI feel like it's that or some terrible dystopian future where the proletariat is left to die because they're literally not needed for anything anymore. I think UBI wins out, but maybe i'm just being blindly optimistic because I can't deal with imagining things getting that bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 05:50 AM |
| 6 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normThis is missing the part where automation could also lead to a socialist utopia where none of us have to do bullshit jobs and we can all live in relative prosperity. I know it's a long shot, but if the universal basic income ball comes rolling a lot of these deaths of despair can be fixed. There are many ways for masculinity to manifest. If people no longer work men can display masculinity by developing aptitude and prowess in art, music, sports, hunting, or any other enjoyable pastime. Also a l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 05:47 AM |
| 0 | Tentative prediction: mass male suicides over the next few decades becoming a normSo maybe if these shitty jobs disappear, we get universal basic income, and people are able to live less stressful, more interconnected, fulfilling lives at home there will be less suicide? Sounds pretty dope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/11/17 05:42 AM |
| 1 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?And by even being concerned with what she likes during sex instead of your own pleasure, you're proving to her that you, indeed, are NOT that guy. I'm curious what personal experience lead you to think this way. I do find the AWALT thing to be kind of annoying. Yes, a high percentage women enjoy being thrown around and being subject to aggressive male sexuality. But if you charge in guns blazing 100% of the time don't be surprised when a girl claims she was forced into doing something with which… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 06:30 PM |
| 1 | You're dating a guy and find out he's an avid Red Piller... what is your reaction?We can be caused and still have free will. Check out Dennett's ideas about this sort of stuff | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 04:49 PM |
| 3 | You're dating a guy and find out he's an avid Red Piller... what is your reaction?because people with Aspergers deserved to be laughed at and mocked for something outside their control | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 04:13 PM |
| 3 | You're dating a guy and find out he's an avid Red Piller... what is your reaction?I think this question is framed in a way that makes most women say they wouldn't date the guy. If he identifies as an "avid red piller" then there's likely something off with the dude. There's enough toxicity and open misogyny on TRP that claiming membership to that group makes you suspect. It'd be more interesting to ask if finding out a guy browses TRP, or believes in some of it's ideas, was a deal breaker. Anyway, I once fucked a girl and then she asked me if I had ever heard of TRP. I laughe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 01:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Sexual liberation benefits everyoneschool of life kind of sucks and that explanation of romanticism is kind of poor | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 01:58 PM |
| 5 | You're dating a guy and find out he's an avid Red Piller... what is your reaction?that's why they're on PPD on not TRP | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 01:47 PM |
| 8 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.you're making an AWALT argument about solipsism and then using that to say patriarchy isn't a thing. It's a strawman of what the idea of patriarchy is, and then your attack on the strawman is pretty weak too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 03:47 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Patriarchy theories are simply projection by women.I think you can make a case for some feminist theories being psychological projections, but this is a shit argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 03:36 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Is this an example of "alpha male" behavior?I just think it kind of frames the problem in a way that forces you to draw dumb or obviously false conclusions. Humans are dumb (myself included), but we're capable of a more complex model of reality than an Alpha/Beta dichotomy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Q4RP: Is this an example of "alpha male" behavior?It's not directly related, but related to ideas of dominance/biology/etc. This video is a good primer. IMO, alpha/beta is a regrettably low resolution way of looking at dominance hierarchies in humans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 02:04 AM |
| 2 | Q4RP: Is this an example of "alpha male" behavior?I dunno, I differ from TRP on this and think Jordan Peterson's ideas are a little more illustrative. The whole point of Alpha/Beta is that Alpha has good genes for survival and Beta has good genes for child rearing. I don't see the behavior in the video as being advantageous for survival in nomadic days, especially in any sort of sustainable way. Something that's advantageous for survival and capable of being iterative over many generations is the definition of a genetic advantage. This rules ou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 01:51 AM |
| 7 | Q4RP: Is this an example of "alpha male" behavior?Would this behavior be advantageous to the leader of a tribe back in nomadic human days? Nah, it wouldn't. Tyrants don't actually make for stable political structures. So nope, not Alpha. Just an asshole | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 12:34 AM |
| 2 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?yup, and it's frustratingly common. Learn your body girls and learn to articulate your needs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/11/17 12:17 AM |
| 6 | CMV: Sexual liberation benefits everyonederegulated markets lead to staggering inequality rather quickly. what is hard to understand about this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:47 PM |
| 3 | There's no such thing as a "rape fantasy".lol for real | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:28 PM |
| 2 | Is the "cock carousel" truly the reason why women aren't attracted to their "beta" husbands?I mean, isn't a good portion of the Red Pill pumping up male insecurity so a handful of guys can sell their books? Cock Carousel is kind of sort of a thing but I doubt it's as played up as TRP says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:27 PM |
| 5 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?Your description of what many women ask for is pretty telling. Here lies the pernicious underpinnings of your argument. You're conveniently placing women as victims in this scenario again and again. I'm asking you to consider the possibility that they have as much agency and sexual desire as men (well, maybe not as much, but more than you're giving them credit for). Women can enjoy extreme sexual acts too. Just ask any lesbian about the prevalence of fisting. Now to my potency statement. When a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 11:12 PM |
| 3 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?I guess that's what I'm getting at. I just don't believe that's so rare to find. Maybe I'm blind to the feminine experience, but I also don't see how a lack of communication helps any of this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 10:48 PM |
| 12 | In the wake of all the porn threads: what do we think of data showing women are more likely to search out violent porn and have rape fantasies?I think Mark Manson's ideas here are very elucidating. Women are attracted to a guy who invests more in himself than he invests in other people. (all around great way to think about "AALFA behavior") Women are turned on by the feeling of being desired The idea of being so alluring, so seductive, than a man loses all control of himself is very much a turn on. Men have similar fantasies of power/control but the specifics vary a little bit. That aside, I do think there's a surprising number of wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 09:33 PM |
| 3 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?It's more common in men, sure. But it's possible for a women to learn to be (imo very marginally) assertive in one aspect of their personal life. I'm not asking for a radical personality transformation, just a slight shift from natural inclinations in an important instance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 09:20 PM |
| 5 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?Personally? Kind of. But I have a thing for androgynous girls with strong personalities. I was more so asking those questions in a rhetorical manner though. Trying to highlight the idea that if women want to be all pro-feminism agency (and by this I guess you'd say masculinized), they can't then get mad when they suddenly turn this off in their dating lives and men get confused. Can't have your cake and eat it too. Also I kind of think you're making a false dichotomy here. A girl doesn't have to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 09:11 PM |
| 3 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?You're right, porn's influence is definitely an interesting subject. I think I took issue with the tone of your question—very much felt an undertone of critiquing male potency. That sort of stuff is annoying, frustrating and I think it promotes the very sort of masculine attitudes that a lot of bloopers/feminists dislike. I think these things have always existed in human sexuality. I think a surprisingly large number of women have rape fantasies, and enjoy being sexually ravished. Some women gen… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 09:07 PM |
| 2 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?what do you mean by "a guy like you"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 08:41 PM |
| 16 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?This is the sort of infantilism that I find so frustrating as a guy. Sex is almost always mediocre the very first time with a new person. I'm able to clearly articulate my needs and desires and negotiate what's okay and what isn't. Why is it that so few women are able to? I've asked many women I've been with to teach me what they like, and how to get them off better and I'm often met with confessions that they don't really know, or vague and poor direction. If you don't act with agency in bed do… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 08:27 PM |
| 1 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?so a women's sexual agency only matters when it aligns with the patriarchy narrative? how convenient. Btw, the girls I'm talking about didn't really watch degrading porn. Mostly lesbian stuff. Another mentioned that she only really watched gay (guy on guy) porn. Your original argument was that women don't enjoy rough, "demeaning" sex and guy's are into it because they watch porn. Saying "well woman are raised on porn too!" when confronted the conflicting evidence is a little disingenuous. I'm al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 08:06 PM |
| 2 | Do men learn how to fuck from porn?I'm 25, and definitely came to understand my sexuality through porn. I had watched many videos and jacked off plenty before I ever had sex for the first time. I'm experiencing some dissonance reading the comments in this thread. I tend to be rather aggressive sexually, and can last for a while if I want to. There's a definite dom/sub kink aspect to a lot of my sexual relationships. My experience is often that the girls I'm seeing come to expect this from me, and it can sometimes feel like a trap… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (12 November 2017)I much prefer reading books to anything digital. Better for the eyes, more portable, and I can annotate too. Plus I just like having books around. Appreciate the link though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:49 PM |
| 2 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?Well, then the problem isn't rape culture but the fact that cops in the US are generally incompetent. You fix that by reforming the police, not having witch hunts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 05:11 AM |
| 2 | Very very very simple question about N-count. This is for men in particular but women can respond too and give their thoughts.I was going to reply saying that I don't care about N count, but then I thought more and realized dating a girl who'd had sex with 50+ guys would probably bother me. Still, that's at the very extreme end of the spectrum and I don't by the Red Pill narrative that all girls have fucked a hundred guys by the time they're in their mid twenties (I'm exaggerating the terpers, but their insecurity there is overwhelming at times). I'm somewhat promiscuous though, so I imagine that's why I don't care too… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 05:06 AM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?Are what you're saying that they willingly suffered rapes to further their career? No. I'm saying they suffered rapes so that someone didn't destroy their career, invade their personal lives, and leak false rumors to tabloids to destroy their reputation. The fact that these women were successful meant they had quite a bit to lose, and Weinstein was very much in the position to make sure they lost it. I'm not convinced rape culture exists, but I will not entertain the idea that the women were "as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?Yeah that's why you go to the police immediately so that they can collect actual evidence. It sucks, it's shitty, and I understand why it doesn't happen, but if we want to actually reduce rape while limiting collateral damage that's what's got to happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?groping comment was in relation to H.W. Also those girls had to play nice with Weinstein because he could ruing their careers. Did you miss the part where he hired literal spies to track the girls he raped? Or how he tried to get the therapy records of one of them? There were very strong incentives for those women not to rock the boat, and for them to feel that it was very unsafe to do them. Pretty sure you're trolling though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 04:21 AM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?I'm stealing this from the link that Atlas gave, but saying rape is about power and not sex is like saying that paying for sex with prostitutes is about feeling charitable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:51 AM |
| 2 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?what about all the women that knew and didn't come forward, especially the women that facilitated the Weinstein stuff? I think a lot of the problems people have with feminism is this persistent idea that men are always the oppressors and women are always the victim. Can we agree that some people rape, and we should be more forward about bringing rapists to justice? Can we also agree that moral panics and witch hunts are also bad? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:49 AM |
| 2 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?Moore is a former Alabama state judge accused of sexually assaulting a girl who was 14 years old at the time. I think fucking 14 year olds is wrong. Also please explain how people getting involuntarily groped are "in on it" Plz don't jump to victim blaming kthnx | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/11/17 03:47 AM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?you're a moron | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 11:37 PM |
| 1 | What does coolness mean to you and why is it so important?yeah. what does that have to do with things? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 11:37 PM |
| 4 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?whenever you're saying the entirety of a large group of people are crazy because of their occupation, you probably have your head up your ass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Questions about swagger.Yes. imo, 90% of swagger/coolness/etc is halo effect. perhaps all of it And girls who think being a professional athlete matters fuck these men. I doubt hipster, art girls who read philosophy and spend their time in museums are trying to fuck NBA players. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 11:17 PM |
| 1 | What does coolness mean to you and why is it so important?it doesn't matter to me. I don't want to fuck a girl because she's cool, and her being cool has very little to do with whether I want to date her. I tend to play in dominance hierarchies where coolness isn't really a factor, but it's possible coolness makes a girl more dateable if you're hanging in different circles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 11:15 PM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?well, I think you could make the argument that female sexuality has an inherent tendency towards evil as well. I think most humans have an inherent tendency towards evil. We also have an inherent tendency for good. So like, maybe the radfems were onto something when they talked about all sex being rape in that masculinity is rapey and women kind of like it. Women often want to be pursued and dominated in some way. I don't think it has anything to do with patriarchy, but instead has to do with in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 11:11 PM |
| 1 | What does coolness mean to you and why is it so important?Not sure. I'm a guy so girl cool is kinda irrelevant to me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 11:06 PM |
| 4 | Questions about swagger.You care about the dominance hierarchy that they're functioning in, and they're at the apex of it. Pretty much everything they do will seem cool, and awesome because of their place in the tribal ranking. You're practicing the religion of NBA and they're the gods you worship. Of course you'd think everything about them is cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 10:49 PM |
| 1 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?hmm, seems interesting. What about the long list of criticisms given in that article? btw, I watched that Herzog doc about the wodaabe you linked last week. Really interesting, and got me into Herzog's greater body of work. def appreciate it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:55 PM |
| 3 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?I don't buy the STEM circlejerk that anyone involved in the arts is automatically crazy. I also doubt every person in the acting department was on anti-depressants. Even if that's the case, the idea that people who are clinically depressed are more likely to be rapists is boneheaded and ignorant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:54 PM |
| 4 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?I think you're right, and I think that's the crux of the "sexual culture wars" that are currently raging. Masculinity is dangerous, scary, self-centered, and surprisingly effective at getting what it wants. The thing is, that's exactly what women like about men. It's what turns them on and gets them excited. It's also very good at fighting off the monsters at the gates. Women love masculinity but they hate what it can do to them. And the moral implications of those actions can be rather disconce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?Isn't the rape culture argument saying that all these things create an environment that fosters rapists? Ultimately all these acts relate to men imposing their sexuality on a women without consent. Shouldn't we try to enforce a culture in which men respect women's personal sexual boundaries? In which mean aren't sexually presumptive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 09:22 PM |
| 7 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.Isn't that what you did in college? And highschool? It's also what'll happen when you get a job, assuming you want to get promoted at some point. Working your ass off for years in the hopes that it will pay off is a fundamental aspect of life, not just dating. You'll do fine. I noticed a big change in my dating life when I turned 23, and it seems to be improving with each year. And it's not impossible for a 22 year old guy to get laid, especially in a big city. Btw, women don't exist to be a rew… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:58 PM |
| 3 | Maybe rape culture is a thing?You're saying men are inherently predisposed to rapey behavior? I'd kind of agree with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:48 PM |
| 3 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.There's your problem. When you're 22 years old you're still a kid, especially in a big city. Give it a year or two and you should be fine. Though I guess that's kind of the point you're making? That the dating market's all screwed up for men in their early 20's? Only advice I have for that is start lifting weights and try to get some sort of career/good job lined up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:45 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The 'sexual liberation' only benefits women and top-tier men.how old are you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 08:34 PM |
| 1 | What does coolness mean to you and why is it so important?The world cool came into the modern lexicon through jazz musicians and "cool jazz". Miles Davis's The Birth of Cool is one of the first instances of the word cool being used in a way other than to describe temperature. So if you're trying to imagine what cool is, just think of Miles Davis | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 04:29 PM |
| 3 | The TMI laydees-only sex toy thread. Or, "how my understanding of women's orgasms was smashed on the weekend..."A lot of women in relationships seem to have medium to high sex drives at the start but then get turned off PIV sex over time because it doesn't seem to be about her, but about him. He gets his orgasm, she doesn't. It's his relax time but not hers. If he's not good at oral sex or she can't relax enough to orgasm during oral sex, then she doesn't get an orgasm there either Etc And the result is that some women are seen as having a low sex drive and also view themselves that way. But if men's geni… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 03:56 PM |
| 1 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (12 November 2017)I recently went to a bookstore in hopes of buying some books on feminist theory. I figured I'd be doing myself a disservice by not reading primary sources with all the protest I put up against mainstream feminism. What I found particularly amusing was the cover art for Simone De Beauvoir's work was all hyper-feminine and girly in nature. Silly patterns and bright colors. The title was written in girlish fake cursive. It was so atrocious that I didn't end up buying the books as I couldn't stand b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 05:38 AM |
| 1 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas AreI guess my personal conception of alpha/beta would be relevant to all of this. I think ultimately women seek out men who phenotypically display traits/behavior that would have made them good hunters/tribesmen back in the olden days. So I see beta behavior/genetics as precluding you to getting killed by that lion you're trying to ward off. Or freezing in fear when a snake enters into your village and then getting bit and dying. Men who are cowards are likely to die in survival situations. The who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 05:33 AM |
| 3 | Weekly Offtopic-Sunday Megathread (12 November 2017)The definition of insanity has always basically been whatever unsympathetic people in the mainstream thought was weird. We used to lobotomize women for Hysteria, so perhaps it would be apt to de-stigmatize mental illness a little bit. Also, wanting independence and desiring to be alone doesn't mean you're mentally ill. Yes, many people with mental illnesses tend to self isolate, but not everyone who enjoys spending time alone has a mental illness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 04:55 AM |
| 1 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas Arecouldn't you also argue that the betas just died when we were nomads? it's also possible agriculture helped the weak to survive, similar to how modern medicine lets those in bad health continue to live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 04:30 AM |
| 26 | The TMI laydees-only sex toy thread. Or, "how my understanding of women's orgasms was smashed on the weekend..."women need an extreme mechanical gizmo to "extract" an orgasm from themselves right when they wake up in the morning. Meanwhile I've masturbated three times in a day just to keep a lid on my libido. And my hand works more than well enough (which is nowhere near as stimulating as an actual vagina). Frankly, the idea that you could look at women needing a ridiculous suction machine to achieve orgasm and come to the conclusion that maybe they're just as horny as men is a little hilarious. I also th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/11/17 04:24 AM |
| 1 | The More Evolved a Socioeconomic the More Dominant Betas Areexpand | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 04:01 PM |
| 3 | TV/Movies Heavily Push the Idea that Average/Ugly Men Date Elite Looking womenwoosh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/11/17 02:48 AM |
| 4 | These Louis CK allegations are interesting and I don’t know what to make of themThe thing that complicates things for me are the statements about his agent trying to quiet things down. That's somewhat expected though. "Hey could you please not talk about my client's masturbation fetish" isn't totally outlandish or necessarily intimidating. The phone call where he mixes up his story and incorrectly apologizes for shoving her in the bathroom is pretty damning. There does seem to be a pattern of behavior that's borderline non-consensual. If power play's your thing, get a willi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Has the unfolding of the recent sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein and others affected how you think of gender dynamics? If so, how?I don't see how this is relevant | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Has the unfolding of the recent sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein and others affected how you think of gender dynamics? If so, how?What about how brazen he was, and how those surrounding him were complicit by staying silent for so long? Doesn't this confirm a lot of what TRP says about having "alpha" status and being able to get away with murder if you do? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Has the unfolding of the recent sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein and others affected how you think of gender dynamics? If so, how?This is clearly not true. I saw immediate outrage from most everyone once the New Yorker article about Weinstein dropped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Has the unfolding of the recent sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein and others affected how you think of gender dynamics? If so, how?I don't see how politics is at all relevant to this discussion. Mods? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 05:39 PM |
| 3 | Has the unfolding of the recent sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein and others affected how you think of gender dynamics? If so, how?These men have quite a lot of influence over the careers of these women. It's not like the women can just go work for another company. The entertainment industry is interconnected—you have to account for how that could influence their behavior in this situation. I'm not as familiar with the Sam Kriss situation though, so I'm mostly speaking to the allegations facing Weinstein. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Has the unfolding of the recent sexual assault allegations against Harvey Weinstein and others affected how you think of gender dynamics? If so, how?Thanks for sharing your perspective. I think that Margaret Atwood quote is so relevant when discussing these sorts of things. “Men are afraid that women will laugh at them. Women are afraid that men will kill them.” It's hard to incorporate the threat of danger women face in general life with the information and theories on TRP/PPD. I do think a comprehensive theory can be synthesized, but too often Red Pillers dismiss sexual assault and rape as something that's beyond them, and therefore irrele… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 05:35 PM |
| 2 | In theory, equal opportunities for women is a good idea, but in practice, it isn'tI'm not saying that SAHF is 100% unworkable. I think there's a chance, but doubt that it's a setup that works for the majority of couples. I'd very much like to be able to date women that are more socioeconomically advantaged than me, but it doesn't seem to happen. Also, I'm not sure how much gender roles are taught insofar as they are manifestations of natural human instincts. The social constructivist view of gender roles seems to miss that all societies cross culturally and across time have h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 03:24 PM |
| 3 | In theory, equal opportunities for women is a good idea, but in practice, it isn'tOr rules like, if a woman is a SAHM she's just doing her duty, but if a man wants to be a SAHF he's ridiculed. Or like, women can't own property or vote, but men can. To be a "pussy," despite referring to an organ with a hell of a high pain tolerance, means you are weak. But having "big balls" means you're super courageous and strong, despite that big balls are floppy and the most sensitive part of either men's or women's bodies. These rules have nothing to do with reality, and they don't come f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/11/17 06:27 AM |
| 2 | CMV: The red pill teaches people values that would make them later candidates for sensitivity training through HRAs much as I'm enjoying you slaying, it's pretty apparent this kid just started college or something and hasn't thought deeply about anything he/she is saying. The original post is pretty lacking in depth to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/17 11:11 PM |
| 1 | All men knew women like strong men. What a lot of men didn’t know was that this strength (for want of a better word) was measured at least partly by his interactions with her.I don't know where you're living but my personal experience has been very different from "you have to be a confident, dominant badass making bank at your high status job with ZFG attitude to get anywhere." I know a lot of average looking dudes that are sensitive, emotional, and not traditionally masculine that do just fine with women. I'll admit most of these people are musicians, but that means living in a shit apartment and maybe working at a coffee shop in the daytime or something. If you wan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/11/17 06:53 PM |
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