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I guess by that standard most men are cheaters and abusers too, huh? I wouldn't know because I dont date men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 12:49 PM
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And? And thats the point of the post you chose to comment on. It's not majority of women either It kinda is though.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 11:59 AM
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Which justifies being materialistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:37 AM
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this is not exclusive to women. No, but women generally have those qualities more than men do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:35 AM
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But men in my opinion are also materialistic, just about differing things. Yeah, but the difference is men generally dont look for material things like money and resources in who they date while women generally do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/26 01:34 AM
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Seems to me, you don't want to pay the costs of passing on your genes. I dont want to pass on my genes in general, regardless of the cost because i actually like children and dont want them to suffer in this world. It seems to me more women should be antinatalists like I am, but then ofcourse it would be hard for them to justify being provided for by a man...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:34 PM
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That doesnt mean what I said is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:32 PM
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A vast number of men are obsessed with becoming rich. One of the main reasons for that is so they can attract women, who generally have an eye for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:29 PM
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Women have expectations especially those who desire a family. Children are how women justify using men for resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 01:22 PM
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What point do you think my post is making? I feel like you're confused about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 12:17 PM
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However you said AWALT, No i didn't...
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:33 AM
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I hope you never have kids. I'm an antinatalist. So women using the excuse of pregnancy and children to justify using me for resources doesnt work. Women give up their careers and financial independence to bear and raise children Then they should stop having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:27 AM
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Women account for 70 to 85 percent of all consumer spending. Which means...?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 10:02 AM
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Expecting a man to spend money is to show he can do it. There are enough men with no generosity out there that some use this as a way to vet men. This is why I said because women are materialistic, they think a man spending money on them is a good way to vet them. In reality, basically all men who have ever been on a date know that its better to just pay to increase their chances of getting laid or getting a second date. Unfortunately, since women are materialists, they cannot understand this. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 09:37 AM
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they are a reality Yeah, a reality women use to justify being provided for. Also, in the early stages of dating its not an issue and to expect a man to spend money on you in case you get pregnant in the future is ridiculous. There are men who are gold diggers too. They aren't as common as women. Be honest with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:51 AM
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As for placing importance on generosity and a man having a stable financial situation, in most cases this isn’t about gold digging. Women can get pregnant, and if they’re going to start a family, they’re going to look for a partner that is financially stable and not stingy. Which is why I said in the post "...they're biologically and psychologically wired to seek out resources for themselves and their offspring through men. This makes it so that they tend to just view men as a means to an end an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:34 AM

You know its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 08:30 AM

According to my own experiences, guys who write this kind of posts badly want to find a girl they can sleep with but get (almost) always rejected. Well, thats very convenient for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 07:28 AM
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This is a defense mechanisms. My post has nothing to do with sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 06:58 AM
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If we can afford it single, then why would we waste our time with someone who doesn’t make equal or more than us?? There's the materialistic mentality the post is about. Non materialistic people don't care how much money the person they're dating has.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:18 AM
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Do you think women will stop doing things just because you told them not to? I dont expect them to stop. If they want to let some men "waste" their youth, thats their business. I was simply responding to the things the woman listed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:16 AM
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The main difference is men dont let materialism dictate who they date. Men generally dont care about women's money while the same can't be said about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:08 AM
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And you won’t tell men to not do the things she listed above? Do you think men who do the things she listed will stop just because a comment on reddit said so? you have no business telling women ANYTHING. Right. So they should just stay in dead-end relationships and then complain about their wasted youth then.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 05:07 AM
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A man wastes a woman’s youth by occupying her prime reproductive, emotional, and career building years without providing genuine commitment or reciprocal effort. And the woman doesn't leave after a year or 2 of this because? while disappearing or manipulating her when she requests effort. If she had agency, she could easily just leave. There. That’s all the time I’m willing to spend. And I’m getting absolutely nothing back for it. All the things you've described are things women can avoid if the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:35 AM
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How does someone waste someone else's youth?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:20 AM

I think you're confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:06 AM
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Is being materialistic and shallow a bad thing? For you, it isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:03 AM
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This doesn't change whats being said in the post. You're actually adding one more reason why women tend to be more materialistic and shallow than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 04:01 AM
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So what you’re saying is that they won’t be generous until a man is generous? If you're only generous after someone is generous to you then you aren't really generous. Its transactional generousity. Men are generous without women being generous first. I see no problem with that. I know, for reasons described in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/26 03:55 AM
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If water was sentient and had a mind of its own then yes, it obviously would have power over him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 10:34 AM
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…and these women raised you in a way that makes you vulnerable to being “manipulated and controlled by” other women. Precisely. It's one of the ways in which women work together. the vast majority of women - do not want to manipulate and control Well, they do anyway. don’t behave collectively. Humans do have similar collective behaviour. This is why archetypes exists in psychotherapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 08:18 AM
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If men were truly providers, then they should be similarly happy that they are free from the burden of caring for a woman who provides nothing of value to men. Why aren't they happy that they can keep their wealth, without having to share it with an undeserving woman? Unfortunately men have been conditioned by their mothers and society in general to find meaning in providing for a woman in some way shape or form. Many genuinely feel that this is what makes them a "real man", and this is primaril…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:49 AM
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I guess you missed the first sentence of the post that says "This is especially true if those men are thirsty for sex and approval from women.". Also, the post is about not enjoying being single.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 06:02 AM
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You can keep telling yourself that if you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 03:17 AM
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There are no simps. Lie to yourself some more.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:34 AM
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You can tell someone is intelligent when they read something made up of 3 paragraphs and then end up just pointing out one thing they don't like saying "yikes".
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:33 AM
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Never had a man that has money complain about paying the bill btw Never had a woman who had money care about paying for herself btw Only brokies think that buying a woman food is some over-the-top grand gesture. Only brokies expect other people to pay for them. I won’t be paying for any date never mind the first. Thats because you like using men and then pretend you like them after they pay. Much like a "sex worker". Your mentality is exactly why men should split the bill, to weed out women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/26 02:25 AM
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Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:42 PM
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No, only you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:41 PM
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Okay, so im not wrong then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 11:37 AM
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I didn't say that either. I said a "happy" marriage requires the man to put up with alot of nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:56 AM
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I'm pretty sure thats not what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:42 AM
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No, but for a marriage to be "happy" the man has to agree to alot of nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:25 AM
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So him paying for a date he asks out is a sign that he’s willing to invest in that person No, its a sign that he knows women are superficial and therefore its better to just pay so they're happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 10:25 AM
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I could agree with you but then we’d both be wrong. Wel, let's agree to disagree. That seems like a fair compromise.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 08:16 AM

It comes from moms who raise their sons right. A white supremacist would think that a mother who raised her son to be racist raised him right. So this doesnt mean much, especially from someone from a culture in the south. To understand it is a privilege to get the undivided attention of a beautiful woman. Women (including beautiful ones) are just humans like everyone else. Getting their attention is no more a privilege than getting attention from an "ugly" person is a privilege. This is just fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:46 AM
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am neither inauthentic So why would being asked not to wear makeup and show your natural face bother you? Why not be authentic and not wear a mask (makeup)? nor incapable of love Okay, I'll take your word for it. What i said is still true that being loved doesnt necessarily mean someone is a loving person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:20 AM

southerners can be racist af While also being gentlemanly apparently but only to a specific demographic. Your thesis is that the men I go on dates with pay for dinner because of historical racism. No, my claim is "gentlemanly" behaviour coming from a tradition entrenched in racism doesnt mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:18 AM
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What did I say that was untrue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:15 AM
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Oh why are you so cruel? 😭
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:15 AM
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I prefer to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:04 AM
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You are inauthentic I simply said someone who has a problem with being asked not to wear makeup is inauthentic. This isnt an insult. Its the truth. If being told not to wear a mask bothers you, how are you authentic? You are incapable of love I didn't say this about you. I just pointed out that one can be loved and still be incapable of love. So being loved doesnt necessarily mean you are capable of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:03 AM

instead of just bringing up Jim Crow for some reason. It was a part of southern culture. And racism is still a part of that culture. Even today many black people report having bad experiences when visiting the south so sorry, im not gonna pretend like thats not a reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 07:00 AM
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The reality is if you didnt get sex at all, you'd see what im saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:59 AM
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am always ready to pay for myself. Thats good, but it isn't how you were coming accross by calling yourself expensive, etc. It would actually offend my date if I offered to pay because he would think that I thought he wasn’t a gentleman. And no part of you wonders about the psychology of a man who gets offended by a woman paying for herself? You get how the same action can be perceived a different way by two different men. Yeah, the one who gets offended is strangely insecure and is a redflag to…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:57 AM
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I guess I'm not gonna learn about your culture then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:52 AM
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How was it cruel?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:51 AM
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You realize that we women who do pay are paying as a proactive defensive measure against all of the predatory men who see paying for tacos as paying for sex, right? I just assumed you do it because you're decent people who actually want to be treated like equals. My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:51 AM
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Would you like to learn about it Yes, enlighten me. but your whole entire post is about how there aren’t any women left who are willing to pay for themselves because generous men are ruining it This isnt actually what the post says.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:15 AM
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Well, atleast you get sex. Many men dont even get that. So you're doing better than them in that sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:14 AM
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Any man who asked me to stop wearing makeup isn’t a man I’d like to date Yes, i imagine a woman who isn't authentic wouldn't cope well with being her natural self. I am deeply loved and very happy. One can be loved and still be incapable of loving. You’re doing it wrong if you’re this obsessed with what other people who aren’t you or your date are doing. I don't need to be obsessed to share my opinion in the comments of a post I made.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:13 AM
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The answer is yes, if two people are having dinner and one makes more than the other, they should both be ready to pay for themselves and if the one who makes more money offers to pay then thats fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:10 AM
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So whats the solution then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:08 AM
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Men don't need dozens of women, just the right one. Most men feel that not paying decreases their chances of meeting the right one. Just split the bill, anyway. Back when I was dating i used to. Im simply telling you how most men think, whether you think its contradictory or not, its how they think and its why they just pay by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:08 AM
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You don’t comprehend the culture I live in I kinda do. The man pays, the woman is the expensive prize, is traditional and a man provides for her while she stays home raising the kids who she conditions to grow up to be cogs in a wheel. who thinks paying for a date entitles him to something more than the company of an interesting woman I dont think that at all. I just find that a woman who has the mentality that a man pays by default tends to have a terrible character and a transactional and para…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 06:02 AM
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There are men who are into big women, much more than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:56 AM
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A question with an obvious answer for an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:56 AM
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Your experiences can also program how you think. For example, you say you're u attractive and yet you may just have a skewed image of yourself based on bad experiences with men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:55 AM
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You said it was my programming To think that a man who doesnt pay isnt interested is part of your programming, even if you still pay for yourself. The obvious proof is the fact that men who hate women still pay on dates to make it easier to get what they want. My programming says men desire all women. Thats not really part of your programming otherwise you'd think they desire you too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:52 AM
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Expecting payment because "men value sex more" basically is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:50 AM
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but I wouldn’t dream of going on a date without carefully choosing my outfit and makeup for the occasion and looking my absolute best. The problem with makeup is it isn't really you. Some men even joke about going to the beach on first dates to see what the woman truly looks like, because the make up hides that. Its not authentic. You don't need makeup to look your best. In fact, i think women look better without it. With it on, I can always tell that im not dealing with inauthentic person. Its …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:48 AM
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Most men know even asking is a turn off for women. This is unfortunately how many women are so men dont even bother asking. They just pay to avoid the judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:41 AM
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I told you I pay I know. Im not talking about you. We're talking about the behaviour of women in general, its not personal. I told you I initiate. I’m not attractive. I don't know what say to this except that thinking this about yourself will only dusturb your peace. Saying this about yourself is part of your programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:39 AM
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Ask what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:37 AM
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I just know he’s not that interested. Any man who knows anything about women knows that paying on dates is the best option to get what he wants, even if he hates women. Do you think Andrew Tate didnt pay on the dates he was recruiting women to "work" for him? Its clear you dont really think deeply about these things. You just blindly follow your programming.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:36 AM
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Sounds like prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:33 AM
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He’s paying for dinner because I showed up. He asked me to show up in a place at a time because he wanted to spend time with me Did you also want to spend time with him or do you just show up for the food? Transaction completed I get the sense that your romantic relationships are just business transactions completely devoid of real love or care for the other person.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:33 AM
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Is this really how an adult approaches interactions with other adults? If you hang out with someone who makes more than you, you just expect them to spend money on you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:31 AM
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Some people see it as transactional (mostly men) When a man is expected to pay on a date otherwise the woman loses interest, she is the one who turned it into a transaction. The reality is wome also make dating transactional. They (many) literally expect a form of payment.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:28 AM
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I was genuinely curious why you don’t count a woman spending time and intention making herself look more attractive for her date doesn’t count as effort? When its convenient for them, women claim they wear makeup up for themselves. I find that interesting. What would be better would be for a woman to be herself and be interesting conversation wise, without putting on makeup to change how she looks and then pretend like thats somehow putting in effort towards the interaction, and then consequentl…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:25 AM
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I paid and she didn’t put out. How dare she! Well, thats what happens when dating becomes transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:21 AM
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The cheap skate is the one who expects the other to pay for them. Whiteknighting doesnt change this. Unfortunately when you're a simp you don't understand that its not about the money but about the mentality of someone who expects you to pay otherwise they won't like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:20 AM
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A functional dating stage involves each side trying to stay in the good graces of the other person so everyone is on their best-behavior. No way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:18 AM
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If you have to ask then for you let's just say its effort because we're clearly operating on very different levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:16 AM
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So they're essentially paying for the potential for sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:15 AM
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There's no need to pretend its the norm for women to pay for themselves. Its the norm for them to expect men to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:14 AM
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How am I rationalising anything by saying your husband has to agree with you? He does.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:14 AM
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This is the kind of mentality women (and simps) have. Treating a woman like an adult and letting her pay for herself must mean a man is broke or greedy. But a woman expecting random men to pay for her cant be broke or greedy. She's just amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:12 AM
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No, but women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:11 AM

Yes, they're over there. Can't you see them? Im pointing right at them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 05:10 AM
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My husband would disagree He has to. If you demand to know what someone brings to the table When did I demand it?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:43 AM
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Did I say the give out free food and resources or did i say they get used for them by women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:37 AM
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Women can back it up by being proven to do a disproportionate amount of household labor and childcare. What role does household labor and childcare play when you're dating different men trying to find the right match?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:32 AM
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This comment is you projecting your own ideas onto my post. The post didnt even mention sex so you bringing it up tells me thats its likely all you bring to the table.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:24 AM
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This actually answers my question.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:07 AM
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No woman wants a cheapskate for a partner The way women think is very interesting. A man is a cheap skate for splitting the bill, but a woman isnt a cheap skate for expecting men to pay for her bill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:06 AM
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can't say I've ever experienced that. Experienced what?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:04 AM
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It never takes long for women on this sub to make things personal when they disagree with you. And all their insults are different variations of "women dont like you". Very fascinating behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 03:03 AM
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Thats very interesting because most men rarely come accross such women so they just pay by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:53 AM

I see you never answered the question about what is an expensive thing that cant be bought (apart from you, and other expensive women ofcourse)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:53 AM
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i think that patriarchy is the problem, not “simps” really Patriarchy is an abstract concept in reality, whereas simps are actually people taking action in the real world. are ones who have been taught all their lives that their worth is measured by how well men treat them There is nothing wrong with being treated well. Someone paying for your food isn't necessarily treating you well, they're just doing what they feel they need to do to get desired results from you. Also, if women were taught th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:51 AM

You can call it whatever helps you evade the point being made.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:45 AM
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I never allowed any man to pay on a date. Thats great. Do you think this is the norm for women in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:44 AM

are you suggesting I’m going on dates with people from the past? Im suggesting that southern people in the present haven't really changed much. Are you suggesting Jim Crow was caused by women who expect men to pay for dates? Im saying those laws were supported by people you would have called gentlemanly because they pay for your food. No one said women are objects. How can something that is expensive not be an object of some kind? Not everything expensive can be bought Name something that is exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:42 AM
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No, your comment is.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:29 AM
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they don’t have to pay on dates if they don’t want to. I know, thats the point of my post, along with the fact that they feel they have to pay because of their simp mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:29 AM

Not sure what race has to do with it. Your southern men are so gentlemanly and yet hated black men, women and children for their skin colour and wanted them to have less rights. Sounds like amazing men. They must be because they pay for your food. Women are expensive Are they objects? didn’t say men could buy them. If something is expensive, it can be bought by those who have money. I imagine thats how you pick men. This is just how dating works in the South. And im sure in the south women are s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:27 AM
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And it looks like you’ll be one of those husbands someday No, marriage is for silly people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:21 AM
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Definitely not simps. They're supposed to be whatever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:21 AM
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while bringing in half the household income What household income that has anything to do with a man are you bringing in when you're dating different men trying to find the right match?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:18 AM
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i think offering to pay for a date is just polite, by the man or the woman. Most women dont offer to pay for men (or even themselves, if they do its usually just a test). Men pay because they know payment matters to women more than the actual man as a human being. No mapyment usually means no second date. Its that simple. we can’t really blame women Thats why i said simps are the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:17 AM

I live in the South. Did women and black people historically have equal rights in the south? The man who pay for you dont even see you as an equal being with intelligence. They may pretend they do, but the history of the south shows us the truth. Women are expensive. Here i was thinking that they're human beings, not objects who have a price tag. that they can’t afford a woman. You're indirectly calling women prostitutes. Very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:13 AM
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If paying on a date is putting in a modicum of effort that means women dont even put that much effort in. And no, wearing makeup to go on a date isnt effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:11 AM
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They're the ones who let them use them for free food and resources. To you i suppose this means they like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:10 AM
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You straight up describe dating as a form of prostitution If payment is required, how is it not? that they use men for food. Some women actually do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:08 AM
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No, thats simply not true. And i think you know it, unless you're just genuinely delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 02:07 AM
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It’s been shown time and time again that men who don’t pay for their women don’t even really want them. Shown by who and when? Give me a specific example where it was shown. There are wives who are struggling because their husbands refuse to spend a cent on their own household. Where are these women and how did you find out about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:53 AM
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Men get resentful about paying for the first date No, but they may get resentful about being used for free meals and feeling like if they dont pay, the woman will immediately stop liking them. This is actually why alot of men pay. They know not paying on dates is like going to see a prostitute without payment and expecting to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/26 01:51 AM
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A relationship isn’t two people existing in the same space. Okay, let's just agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:46 PM
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I meant in relation to how you said "men are saying they are happy when their wives are happy." And when i asked if their wives are happy without men doing anything, you said "men like doing things". My question was basically, how are women different in that? If men are happy when their wives are happy (through things men do for them), and if men like doing things, how are women different in their perceptions and values in this, as you claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:40 PM
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We value and see and perceive things differently And what does this look like in real life? How do you perceive and value things differently to men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:20 PM
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Ofcourse men and women think differently. Women for example (as youve shown) tend to be more self centered and men tend to want to actively make their partners happy whereas women dont care as much about that as men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:15 PM
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man is happy when he’s doing things. So women aren't happy when doing things? He’s happy when he has a purpose. And women are just happy with no purpose? He’s happy when he’s loved and appreciated. Women aren't? He’s happy when he’s respected. Does being disrespected make women happy? Men in good relationships want to be more. Women don't? A happy wife is a huge status symbol for men. More self centered talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:14 PM
1

🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:06 PM
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Why havent women managed to come up with one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:06 PM
1

they are saying they are happy when their wives are happy. And that just happens without them doing anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:05 PM
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Simped for the wrong girl. There is no right girl to simp for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:04 PM
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Thats not my responsibility since I dont need to keep any man happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:04 PM
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Its not a metaphor. When men say it, do you not think its referring to making their wives happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:03 PM
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I’m pretty sure men made “happy wife happy life” too. Thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:02 PM
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Your perspective needs to shift The phrase is what the phrase is. It says "happy wife, happy life". Its clearly about men keeping the wife happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:01 PM
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Simping is a stepping stone to love. It really isnt. Men who simp get used by women. Says whom? Says anyone who understands the psychology behind overcompensation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 05:00 PM
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Do you have a quick one liner that would rhyme and use the word man or husband? I dont date men, thats why i asked you, and you said women use the same phrase. Is it just because they couldn't come up with their own version that rhymes? We also use “happy spouse happy house.” Would you really be surprised to find out that men also came up with this one?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:58 PM
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You can try to rationalise with nice sounding words it all you like but that change how when men say it, its about making their wives happy, whereas for women its all about them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:56 PM
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When men say it it isnt because its about the wife being happy. When women say it it obviously is because its about them and doesn't even mention the husband. How do you not see this?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:24 PM
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It seems that to you, simping and love are the same thing. Also, feeling the need to "loudly love" someone is a redflag.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:21 PM
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Thats very revealing. When men say it, it prioritises women, and women have no other phrase but the one that prioritises them. More proof of self centered women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 04:20 PM
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Same with a woman Whats women's equivalent to "happy wife, happy life"? What do women say that's similar to that about their husband's?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 03:54 PM
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You said people would make fun of ladies for admitting they simp for their man. Other women likely would because it would be a ridiculous thing to say and women know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:29 PM
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Men as a group are made up of individual men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 01:26 PM
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And I say I'm obsessed with my partner in front of anyone. Did the post say obsessed or did it say "me and my partner simp for each other"? Also, being obsessed with anyone isn't healthy and it isnt love. Obsessions with people rarely end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:49 PM
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I wonder what the point is. What do you think the point of any reddit post is? but what exactly do you mean by this? I actually said they need to be more selective with their attention. Do you not know what this means in the context of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 12:48 PM
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My point is that your point is BS Many women say it isnt, and since they're the ones on the receiving end of that attention, they know more about it than you would. The vast majority of the attention that (mostly young and relatively attractive) women get is superficial and crass. Thats the point...
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:41 AM
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Attention means plenty if there is substance to it. The point of the post is that men give their attention freely and too frequently that to many women it doesn't mean much.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:26 AM
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the type of attention matters Obviously. How does this add to the discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:20 AM
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I'm convinced that men lack the capacity for self-reflection. I often think the same about women. The average man is more likely to be fatter and much less attractive than the average women. This is just an opinion, not a factual statement. Also if the average woman was more attractive than the average man, she wouldn't feel the need to wear makeup. She would just be natural like men are. Women have the capacity for self-reflection and they also have value from the work they do. You saying this …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 08:17 AM
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I wasn't speaking about you personally. It was a collective "you" (referring to men in general), just like you said "this isn't our problem".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:27 AM
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This OP implies that women already getting what they wanted so when a nice guy comes into her life there is no place for him anymore, No, I'm simply saying that because most men give their attention so freely to women, it has basically lost its value. I'm against the whole idea of "nice guys". A nice guy is basically a doormat with no spine.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:26 AM
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You can limit, or give, an unattractive man's attention as much as you'd like, it will always be negative to valueless. If you are an "unattractive" man, may as well stop giving it to them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:23 AM
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The problem isn't our problem. So women finding your attention meaningless isnt your problem, as you insist giving it to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/26 06:18 AM
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What does “pulling away” mean? I'm sure you know what it means. What does it look like from your perspective? On the most basic level it looks like talking to someone who isn't really interested in talking to you. And why is this not applied to when men “pull away?” Because unfortunately women tend to be alot more emotionally colder than men since they generally have more options and therefore can just drop a guy like a hot potato and move on to the next one with essentially no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 06:01 PM
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I want to hear your answer first. I'm sure you can imagine what trying hard when someone has lost interest would look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:43 PM
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If you had to use your imagination, what would it look like to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:36 PM
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It has saved many relationships of mine. Sure. But whether people want to admit it or not, the situation is generally different for men dealing with women. Women's access to more options make them a bit more emotionally cold and detached once they start losing interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:21 PM
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don’t know that anyone would recommend pursuing someone who isn’t interested in being pursued. Many men actually think trying harder to impress and be liked when a woman starts pulling away will work.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:17 PM
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The first and best thing he should do is ask her about it. This is generally a bad idea that won't amount to much. If she's lost interest then she's lost interest, asking her about it won't help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:15 PM
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don’t understand what the alternative would be Keep trying, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:09 PM
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That's too vague of a situation Not really. There is no right fits all answer. In the context of the post there kinda is. When a woman starts pulling away, trying more to get her interest back is always a bad idea. I had relationships where i pushed for conversation and tried to solve issues. The situation is a bit different if you a woman dealing with a man than it is for a man dealing with a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 04:07 PM
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Its interesting how you reduced the post to sex when its hardly even mentioned in the post...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:43 AM
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Nah, it provides some entertainment Well then, you're welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:42 AM
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You can just ignore this post and I wouldn't care. You can even downvote it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:25 AM
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because he isn't likely to get ripped off. This isn't actually true. but whatever product he buys from them is likely to be good because they listen to member complaints and do tons of research. Women do not listen to men or try to find out what they actually like and want. You know they dont. but it's like wading through garbage. Just like dating is for a man who isn't a simp and has standards. Men in relationships have convinced women to go 50/50 with them. Also not true for many relationships…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:24 AM
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Expecting women to be more virtuous than men is where you’re going awry. It was sarcasm...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:10 AM
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If you have to ask there's nothing for you to debate. So you can just keep scrolling to other posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 07:10 AM
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And women take advantage of that loneliness like the caring and compassionate beings they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:35 AM
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Are they okay with it? Yes, otherwise they wouldn't do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:33 AM
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My definition of "using" is in the post which contains 2 long paragraphs that you didn't address.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:30 AM
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Men wasting time and energy on women who are using them is the bare minimum?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/26 06:26 AM
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If 2 people from two different societies and time periods make the same observations about certain people, there has to be some reality to it. Especially if one of those people belongs to that certain group.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 03:03 PM
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Being ridiculed by the crowd does not make something false.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:35 PM
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My point is that before reading her book, I had made the same observations therefore they cant just be my own subjective experience since someone a woman also made the same observations about women before I was even born. Obviously you don't care because what she wrote triggers you making all logic and reason go out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 02:29 PM
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ok dude - you go on thinking you 'by your experience" are somehow more universally knowledgeable Its interesting how my "experience" is in line with what a woman wrote years ago. Its almost like there's a certain objective reality to it...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/26 01:32 PM
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Well, have fun with your weird obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:48 AM

You are extremely glad about gooners. See what I mean when I say you're obsessed with gooners?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:40 AM

Sounds like your best option for not ending up like a gooner will be to cut off your balls if you can find them. You sound obsessed with gooners.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:24 AM

Get a vasectomy, pay for hookers once a month and spend the rest of your life as a genetically dead end gooner Or i can just not have children without doing any of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:33 AM

What are you basing this on? History and my personal observations talking to many different women. The fact that a woman in the 70s noticed the same thing and wrote about it is just more support for my observations. Its unfortunate and I wish it wasn't true but the reality is for a man to get along with most women, he has to keep the conversation very basic.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:32 AM

All this nonsense becomes meaningless as soon as a man becomes intelligent enough to not have or want children. With this decision, women no longer have power over him unless he's dumb enough to let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:02 AM

“facing women on equal terms” was one who never got a crumb of pussy. It sounds like you have a problem with men facing women on equal terms. Very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:42 AM

Women are not thinking creatures Again, this was meant to be provocative while pointing out that women generally (Whether you like it or not) haven't been deep thinkers who question things. nor understand female reproduction? Maybe in the 70s many women didn't...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 07:06 AM
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I neither agree nor disagree. I think there is some validity to what she wrote, especially at the time she wrote it. Also, she wrote it in a way thats meant to be provocative and not taken literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:14 AM
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And men only appreciate women when they get sex or they’re their housemaids and child bearers Not really. Men are conditioned since childhood (by women) to value women for just existing. Which is why so many men put women on a pedestal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 12:12 AM
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Thats not a complaint. Its an observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:54 PM
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However, you complain so much about being judged I didn't complain about being judged. I just made an observation about how men who don't conform or base their value on women are seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:39 PM
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You are using a thought pattern to justify only caring for yourself. In what way?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:28 PM
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No. This is like saying giving victims to a rapist is a big contribution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:25 PM
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Keep your eye on your money because the manosphere says we are after that Is the "manosphere" saying this based on absolutely nothing? Nothing must take precedent over your needs and wants. This is actually how many women think. Not even your children will matter; I'm an antinatalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:23 PM
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Mostly by other women. Men dont really care if a woman is unmarried. Many actually see it as a good thing because it means they might have a chance with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 02:04 PM
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but of interpreting her observations, analyzing them and then drawing some realistic and reasonable conclusions. Can you give an example of how she was incapable of interpreting her observations, analyzing them and then drawing some realistic and reasonable conclusions?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:55 PM
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It is for the future, for the children. Its also for women, which is why they want to be provided for.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:54 PM
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In no way does that view benefit women at all. It benefits them because they're the wants being provided for. If marriage didnt benefit women they would be turning down marriage proposals in large numbers. But they don't. She probably had to give up her career This doesn't really matter since a career is usually just a means to make money and provide for yourself. And if your view was true, you wouldn’t be having society complain about declining birth rates The declining birth rates are being ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:53 PM
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It has been traditionally seen as cool and good to be a man who doesn't end up in a relationship Only superficially. Society pushes men to be married and to provide for women. Even other married men who are unhappy in their marriages push other men towards marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 01:41 PM
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Because that ensures that society gets workers, tax payers, someone who will pay for elderly care etc. In other words, having children is basically creating more slaves for the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:42 AM
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She's financially dependent on him If she didn't like it, she wouldn't accept a marriage that results in it. which makes her vulnerable to physical, mental and financial abuse. Yes, but unfortunately "traditional" and other women seem to be okay with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:39 AM
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and getting children" - yes. How is having children contributing to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:36 AM
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having children is. You think that by blindly having sex with a woman without a condom you're contributing to society?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:24 AM
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I know. Thats why I answered it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:22 AM
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Getting married and providing for a woman isn't contributing to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:15 AM
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Nope. I'm of the opinion that most people (both men and women) are basically the equivalent of NPCs (non player characters in a video game) and i don't need their approval. Getting their approval would actually concern me. The post is basically an observation of human behaviour. If I made a post about men who abuse their partners, doing so doesn't mean that i also abuse my partner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:12 AM
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If you would like to use Esther Vilar and her wild book then you must stand by the rest of what she writes? If someone says 2 + 2 = 4 and I agree, that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything else they say. Also, since Esther Vilar wasn't an idiot incapable of making basic observations of human behaviour, we have to go into why she would write all those words you quoted. Were they based on absolutely nothing in her reality at the time she wrote the book in the 70s?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 08:02 AM
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Yes, thats true. But that doesn't change the fact that society doesn't appreciate him.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 07:48 AM
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Which one is more authentic, your public persona or your non public persona?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:26 PM
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You're just describing normal, basic human behavior. In other worlds, most people are not authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 12:47 PM
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you literally can’t just roll out of bed, dont brush your teeth, dont keep yo ur face clean and keep a woman Bro, atleast read and understand the post before commenting. This is addressed in literally the first sentence of the post. How did you miss that? Its literally in the beginning of the entire post so that if you read even just the first sentence and nothing else, you would know that it was addressed. I even go on to explain what I mean by "less effort".
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 05:37 PM
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Bro, there is no way you can maintain an relationship for more than a year without buying your bf or gf flowers or going out once in a while. The post is about attracting women while dating. Not maintaining a long term relationship. Imagine a guy that is even more attractive than you pushes up on your woman? She is gonna get took bro. This is insecurity talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:47 AM
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Well, aren't you lovely. Like I said in the post, im speaking from experience. So maybe you have to put in effort but that doesn't mean we all do. Based on your comment, youre not very happy about it. Or happy in general actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 10:57 PM
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This is all known to anyone who has been following the conversation Yeah, clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:39 PM
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True. Thats coz you're too intelligent that I dont even know how to debate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:31 PM
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You are very intelligent. I can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:23 PM
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Read the first sentence of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 04:04 PM
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you gotta put in effort. No amount of effort is going to make a woman who finds you unattractive find you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:31 PM
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Men still have to approach and make the first move. They don't actually have to do that. They might actually be better off in the long term if they eased up on that. Read the quote at the end of the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:17 PM
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Yes, attracting a woman requires that she finds you attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 12:41 PM

You're obsessed with my posts at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:51 AM
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You just said it's sad her husband would be lost w/out. Yes, its sad that an adult man would be lost without a woman. This means he's dependent on her which isnt a good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 10:47 AM
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Love can turn to hate. People change. People grow apart. People betray each other. Right. But what im saying is if the love was genuine then it would never turn into hate. Genuine love never turns into hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:03 PM
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correct
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:17 PM
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They cheat because they want to fuck. Thats way too simplistic. Sure eventually some couples hate each other Which means they never over each other in the first place. Unlike most people think, real love never turns into hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 01:17 PM
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I didnt ask ask a question...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:17 PM
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Most relationships are reciprocal. Not transactional The reality is most relationships are transactional and most people (including in this sub) will actually acknowledge this. Its just that they try to claim that relationships being transactional is natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:38 AM

Okay bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:44 AM
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Wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:34 AM
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Being self centered, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:26 AM
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just criticized women IN THIS POST. I did it just now! And? It’s looking like the reason you “don’t see it happening” is because you refuse to, The post is literally about women being criticized, which obviously means it does happen. Whats going on with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:25 AM
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No one has ever criticized women?? In this post no one has and yet you decided to play the sexism card anyway even though no real criticism of women was made.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:06 AM
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If you say "women do X", it's directed at women. Its directed at "women who do X". Those who dont do X shouldn't be bothered since its not about them. If you were do say "men do X", i would only be bothered if im one of the men who do X.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:04 AM
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It is directed at you if you are a woman Its only directed at you if you display the behaviour being discussed.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:01 AM
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Using men for resources, wearing masks (aka makeup) while claiming to want 'real men', having a 'me, me, me' mentality and approach to relationships and so on.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:00 AM
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But no one has criticised women for behaviour both men and women do. You just decided to play the sexism card.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:59 AM
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that likely don't even apply, If the generalisation doesn't apply then its not directed at you...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:56 AM
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I reject sexism because it’s stupid to blame women for behaviors all people do. I Criticising certain things women do isn't sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:54 AM
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The notion that you assume we “defend women” because we want to get something out of it Did I say you do it to get something out of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:47 AM
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U are asking women to not earn money. When did I do that? What did I say? Being a trad wife means u dont make money, u just do everythinh house related drive/takes kids to school, cooks, shower, clean grocery shopping for the etc would u like that? Do you even understand what the post is about?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:25 PM
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Okay, if you say so.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:24 PM
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No I do no Wow. Okay 🤷‍♂️ Let's just pretend women who use men for resources literally dont exist at all. Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:20 PM
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Do you think there women (however few) who use men for resources?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:11 PM
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Why do they want mens resources tho? Don't you know the answer to this already? Why do people use other people for things they have? Or is this something that never happens and is unthinkable?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:08 PM
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But they have their own resources though Its called greed. Women have their own resources but still look for resources in men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:04 PM
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Because its what they value more than connection with another person. They are materialists. With no resources from a man, the relationship feels pointless to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:56 PM
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Are you implying women want extra resources even if both continue being in the workforce and have not had children yet? Well, women generally look for resources in men regardless of what their current situation is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:53 PM
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The draft is the government having rights over someone else’s body What does this have to do with anything? I’m done discussing this with you. Because you don't really understand what you're saying. It seems youre used to having someone else think for you...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:50 PM
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then women allowed to go into the workforce? Even if a man has resources, why would a woman not be allowed to go into the workforce? I don’t even understand the point of your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:44 PM
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Why aren’t women required to register for the draft at 18 Because society still sees women as children (just like you do). Its an aspect of tradition that is still around. and why don’t men have any rights when it comes to abortion Because men arent the ones who get pregnant, obviously. You cant have rights over someone else's body 🤦
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:42 PM
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What is the main topic of the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:40 PM
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The trad wife lifestyle has nothing to do with sex in exchange for being financially supported. Do you think a "traditional man" would provide for an unrelated adult woman he isnt having sex with?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:39 PM
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You don't have to be the same as someone for them to have equal rights 🤦 Men and women being different doesnt mean they arent equal in terms of the law and having rights. Black and white people are also different, does that mean they shouldn't have equal rights?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:36 PM
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Lol I’m not equal to a man because men and women are different. This is just a manipulative tactic to justify men to provide for you and think for you. I see through it. Its the whole "I'm just a dumb girl so provide for me and take responsibility for my actions" routine. Its laughable but also sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:30 PM
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That’s just your opinion Its the reality and im sure deep down you know it is. You just dont care because being led and provided for is more important. Even if youre seen as being unequal and less intelligent or sentient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:23 PM
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They can at the right price, like marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:18 PM
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The irony is "traditional men" are the ones who see women that way. Tradition has always seen women as being not very conscious or intelligent, which is why they need to be led and provided for...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:17 PM
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I want, look for someone willing to trade. We trade. We both get what we want. This is called prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:06 PM
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I enjoy in life I don't see why this would be any different. Because if you have any self respect you shouldn't pay for a relationship with a woman. She should be with you because she likes you not because you pay. If you have any self respect, that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 03:01 PM
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polarity is the contrast between masculine and feminine. Yeah, which has nothing to do with playing a role that allows you to be led and not think for yourself and be provided for by a man. and no, I don’t care about having equal rights. I know. I noticed a while ago that "traditional women" are okay with even their own daughters having less rights just so they can justify being provided for by men. Its actually pretty sad and embarrassing for women. They are completely unaware of what men reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:58 PM
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You just switched it from polarity to trad wife. The trad wife role is the polarity you were talking about in relation to the role of the man... We don’t have equal rights You dont really want them a anyway, so who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:44 PM
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It’s not provided by society It literally is. The "trad wife" role women play was creates by society. we don’t even have equal rights today Yeah, we do. Are women forced to sign up for the draft at 18 Men arent either. I dont know anyone who had to sign up for the draft when they turned 18. Unless you're talking about Ukraine or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:40 PM
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Polarity isn’t an act The type provided to you by society through the roles you play definitely is. Its called a role for a reason. equality is because it can never be achieved. This is such an interesting thing to say. So then equal rights shouldn't exist, right? What equal rights do you think women shouldn't have since equality isnt a real thing that can be achieved?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:31 PM
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Humans want to connect. Yeah, after resources through another human being are secured.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:26 PM
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Connection actually comes first, if you can manage it For many women it rarely does. Resource extraction comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:18 PM
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I don’t want to be in charge. In other words, you want to be led and not have to think for yourself. I believe in traditional gender roles Yes, because your particular role benefits you, thats what the post is saying. and don’t want to kill polarity in my relationship Its a fake polarity given to you by society. Its all an act.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:18 PM
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This isn't the 1800s anymore. You might not know this but this days people can even make money working from home without having to leave the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 02:15 PM
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Wow, they're so selfless. There cant possibly be any other selfish motive, can there?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:59 PM
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Are u willing to do that? If I were silly enough to have kids I'd be willing to babysit, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:39 PM
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So why dont u fix your side first instead of complaining about others? I don't have a side. I just make objective observations about the behaviour of both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:38 PM
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If she doesn't like the man she shouldn't stay with him and she shouldn't use resources as an excuse why she doesn't like him.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:32 PM
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This is my whole point, why this obsession with having someone else provide resources for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:26 PM
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If they didn't, why would they choose it? Do they not have free will?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:25 PM
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No, they're supposed to prioritise human connection over getting resources from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:16 PM

Your original argument was that women supposedly don’t understand these dynamics, and now you’ve shifted to “people often choose stability even when they do understand the tradeoffs.” Those are two completely different arguments. The ones who go along with the system are the ones who dont understand these dynamics...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 01:38 PM
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There doesn't have to be any ulterior motive. There is always an ulterior motive, if you dont think so then you dont really understand how people think and what motivates their behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 05:26 AM

That women aren’t a monolith? No, that the majority always go along with the system out of fear and a need for security.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:43 AM

Wow, what a life to aspire to. Isnt it the life you live?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 04:40 AM
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Some women rejected those dynamics and pushed for more independence The minority who were actively going against the system. and some women knowingly chose traditional ones anyway The majority who held back progress of the true feminist movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:37 AM
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What point are you trying to make? Women who want a traditional man should expect abuse? No, that a man "willingly providing" for a woman doesn't indicate whether he's a good or bad husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:35 AM
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the men they’re searching for are men who are going to willingly provide this All men "willingly" provide for women. Even traditional men who abuse their wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:14 AM
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That’s crazy, considering women literally started the feminist movement in part because of that exact issue. Bruh, seriously? Did all women start the feminist movement or did many actually keep going along with the system and kept choosing being "traditional and dynamic anyway"?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 11:11 AM
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Thats what you arent understanding. That part is implied, it doesn't even need "understanding". The whole point is about the power over someone that comes with "providing" for them and having them financially dependent on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:50 AM
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The husband/father would hand his paycheck every week to his wife. Which is where the power is. Without the check, she doesn't survive and she depends on it from him.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 09:30 AM

But the average woman is not trying to seduce men on her average day to day life. But she still controls the man she's involved with in some way, shape or form.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:28 PM

think you're mistaking men having no self control to their lust for women as women intentionally controlling men with men's desire to fuck us women Do atleast some women use men's lust for them to control them or is that unheard of?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:19 PM

Yep. There are always men willing to defend women no matter what, especially in this sub. And yet you never really see women defending men that much and any woman who does is called a 'pickme'.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 04:18 PM
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I expect you will stay alone. I would prefer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:28 PM
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When a man asks a woman to go on a date, he is issuing an invitation to her. Even when women ask they still expect men to pay. What you show a woman when you pick up the tab in the first initial dates is that you are generous, empathic and interested in her. And what is she showing by being upset if I dont pay? Is she generous when she doesnt even wanna pay for herself? Atleast im okay paying for myself. Women don't even want to pay for themselves. You talk about a lack of empathy and yet you do…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 04:03 AM
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is following a society norm. Yes, thats part of being unconscious. She is NOT doing anything wrong. Well, she isnt thinking for herself and blindly following social norms that began when she wasn't seen as an equal human being with intelligence. So... A man laughing at me or enjoying my discomfort because he has other ideas is not someone I want to see again. You have to be unconscious to feel discomfort when you pay for food you ate. Even unconscious men aren't like that, which is why I said wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:49 AM
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However you try to rationalise it, many women have kids to justify being provided for by men. These women do exist and they are not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:24 AM
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who is in an unconscious state? The one who needs to be told that she will pay for what she eats while pretending to be an equal adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:23 AM
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just shows what men willingly do for sex And it shows what women do for material things. Its objectively more pathetic to allow someone to have sex with you for money than to pay to have sex with someone for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:20 AM
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them. We are not in an unconscious state. 99.9% of people are. tell them that you would like to go to dinner with them but you will do it dutch. No. Adults should be okay with paying for themselves without being told. They should just assume it as adults. This is the world men have lived in for centuries. If women are to be truly equal they must live in it too. You should really respect other peoples perspectives. That doesn't mean I have to pretend that their perspective isn't wrong. If your pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 01:17 AM
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and do not care about the girl you asked out. I do care. If I didn't i wouldn't be helping them become mature by treating them like equal adults. stop asking women out and wait for them to ask you? I stopped asking women out a while ago. Unfortunately women in such an unconscious state that even when they ask a man out, they still expect him to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:46 AM
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If she's taking care of the kids it's not an excuse, it's a reason. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:44 AM
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It's not uncommon to be a trophy wife with no kids In other words, its not uncommon for women to use men for money in exchange for sex. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 12:44 AM
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Well, I'm sorry you interpret the post as being hateful. That can't be helped i suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:38 PM
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Standards = money to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 07:19 AM
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I am being considerate. Children dont always understand the ways in which their parents are being considerate. They may actually hate then for it, until they grow up and become mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 05:38 AM
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I'm doing the right thing by helping them become mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:39 AM
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I'd rather treat them like i treat everyone else who i dont need to tell they might have to pay for their own food.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 02:29 AM
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You don't think at this point men know that paying is the best option so she thinks he's not a user, even if he is? Let's just use some intelligence here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:53 AM
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Some are only focused on themselves, sure Thats who the post is about. Your simplified definition of "generous = gives me money" is a really narrow view of generosity. This simply means that many women have a narrow view of generosity.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:48 AM
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I'm considering others by treating women like adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:45 AM
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So you are here to teach women how to be? Well, somebody has to since their parents didnt do a great job.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 01:42 AM
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How is the post hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:46 PM
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Both men and women use the child for their own selfish purpose. There is no value in having children for selfish reasons while the world is collapsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:20 PM
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Some language is just plain hateful and sexist. Or its provocative to convey the truth in an impactful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:19 PM
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We don't need the world to continue so the Epstein class can keep controlling it and getting your tax money. Unfortunately the average inhabitant of the world is so dumb they probably think the whole Epstein thing is a conspiracy theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:11 PM
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People die in childbirth. They should stop having children and do themselves and their future children a favour.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:07 PM
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Yes some say that about themselves Okay, so im not just making stuff up out of hatred then? But you know, if that’s how they view themselves whatever Sure, but im not gonna not critique their behaviour just so I don't get called an incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 06:02 PM
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and let them know before the date how it will be. Nah, they'll find out on the date. This is how they become mature adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:45 PM
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OP provides an excellent example of why observing if a man offers to pay for a date or gets offended at the idea of paying for the first few dates can be a great screening tool to weed out males who actively dislike women Any man who has experience with women knows paying is the best option because it increases the chances of a second date. Do you think someone like Andrew Tate doesnt pay for dates? Do you think he didnt pay on dates when he was recruiting women to "work" for him? Thinking a man…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:43 PM
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but the way you spoke women having very little value to offer, that’s classic incel talk. The reality is some women do offer little value and bring nothing to the table but their bodies. Not just that but some of them actually say they don't have to bring anything to the table because they are the prize just by existing. and they wonder why they can’t get laid. Not getting laid is a choice. A man can literally just pay, either directly or indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:40 PM
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I think its more important to help them become mature enough to be able to deal with "unfair" situations. They will appreciate what i did for them later when they become mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:28 PM
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Your post gives off incel vibes, so I was curious. Yeah, so does anything the critiques women's behaviour so I dont care. There’s certain things people just don’t know or understand until they’ve have experienced them. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:23 PM
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it is unfair to do this to people. If its "unfair" for me to let women pay for their own food without telling them before hand as if they're some slow child then im actually doing them a favour by giving them an opportunity to deal with an "unfair" situation because life itself is unfair in much worse ways than a woman paying for food she ate. So im according to you, im actually helping them live as an adult in the real world men live in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:20 PM
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It doesn’t matter when it started Ofcourse it does. It has continued despite women achieving legal equality Maybe they haven't achieved another form of equality that is internal... Its not illogical since they still hold on to something that started when they weren't seen as equal and as intelligent as men. in a mentality from when women were property isn’t going to actually accomplish anything The irony is women want to continue something that began when they were property rather than asserting…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:16 PM
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I'm an antinatalist so no, I don't see women as animals to be used for breeding. I see and treat them as equal human beings, which apparently they dont really want. They want special treatment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:05 PM
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The precedent of men paying has remained despite women achieving equal rights. When did it start? When women were seen as equal and intelligent beings?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:02 PM
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Not really.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:01 PM
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You could have said you didn’t want to answer if that was the case. I could have also answered it how it wanted which is what i did. But you can believe whatever you want though, as if dating women makes the post any more or less true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 05:01 PM
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We’ll be around for a while But in what state and condition? People don't even understand the basics of how the people who control the world operate and yet they blindly have children pretending like its because they care about them. Please.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:58 PM
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The world is collapsing. If you cant see this then you just can't see.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:54 PM
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You just want to be right and nasty Am I wrong though? In fact, didnt the tradition of men paying start at the same time when women had less rights and weren't seen as equally capable human beings? And don't men on the right who don't mind paying also think women should stay at home, not work and be under the man?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:53 PM
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There definitely is if youre at all aware of what kind of world you live in and the fact that its collapsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:50 PM
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So you say you treat women as equals but then say we don’t offer anything of value apart from kids, and even animals do that! Does the post say all women? Does it even say most women? If anything I think you’re lying now, and don’t have experience with women. Okay 🤷‍♂️ So why didn’t you answer my question truthfully Because it was a silly question.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:49 PM
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Did the tradition of men paying start separately from women having less rights and not being seen as equal and intelligent humans?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:47 PM
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Except those centuries of precedent have been litigated Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:36 PM
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traditionally men pay Traditionally women also had less rights but we somehow can transcend that part of tradition.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:35 PM
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The cimment is the one who brought up both looks and "financial match" and never mentioned connection. That says alot but is unsurprising.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:29 PM
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Are you upfront or have you been upfront about that though? About what? How an adult might have to pay for food they ate while we're hanging out? No. I see and treat women as equal human beings. I don't need to tell men i hang out with they will pay for themselves. They're adults and they know how the adult world works. Women should also be treated like adults, even though they apparently dont like it when it comes to certain things. know you haven’t been on a date yet I've obviously been on dat…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:27 PM
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and you like excuses to treat them badly. Do you really believe that letting someone pay for food they ate is treating them badly just because they're a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:22 PM
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would argue not discussing expectations before going out is the one choosing to not act like an adult. No, requiring a talk about how you will pay for food you eat when you're out is clearly what makes someone not an adult. There are decades of precedent that says the man pays, There are also centuries of precedent that say women shouldn't have the same rights as men, and yet somehow that doesnt seem to matter...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:09 PM
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and decided that makes women “parasitic.”. Its interesting how women who comment keep choosing to lump themselves with the women described in the post even though the post doesnt say all or even most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 04:00 PM
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Or they can just be adults who don't need to be told they will pay for food they eat. It comes with being an equal adult who gets treated accordingly. If on the other hand we say that women are children then your approach makes sense. Why put someone in a position where they have to discuss payment with you before hanging out? What is that? Just be an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:50 PM
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So don’t pay? Thanks, I hadn't thought of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:49 PM
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Well if her feelings change over that then at least you know that’s she’s not worth pursuing further. Which is exactly why I let them pay for themselves. the more time you spend with a woman you’ll see her character Splitting the bill reveals part of it very early on and saves me time, energy and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:32 PM
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Good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:13 PM
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Some men can feel insulted by the offer of a woman paying even for her own meal. And you don't wonder why? There's obviously some psychological thing at play there. So is it a dealbreaker for you, paying on the first date? Even if you ask her out to coffee or for dinner? I don't actually mind paying. What turns me off is the entitlement and the possibility of being on a date with someone who's feeling towards me would change because I didnt pay (which does happen). Unfortunately women think its …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:11 PM
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you’re agreeing that what men want is to pay for sex. I'm saying they do pay for sex, whether they want to or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:03 PM
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Not sure how it’s unfortunate for me Because you want to believe a lie. Luckily, my opinion of women is also pretty accurate. Sure. Just not when it comes to their mentality in relation to dating men. You may know your own mentality but men experience the mentality of different women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:59 PM
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Then your point is still just “some women want things I don’t like.” Okay No, my point is many women have a parasitic mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:57 PM
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That’s not “the point" Well, its the point of my post... some objective truth about women There unfortunately is some objective truth about many women in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:50 PM
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Okay, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:49 PM
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The truth can be offensive to people who want to believe lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:47 PM
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I guess human connection is out of the window for some reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:45 PM
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Unfortunately for you my opinion is actually pretty accurate about many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:44 PM
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If only I was the only man to experience it. Its very common, thats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:44 PM
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Why would they be attempting to do that when there’s sex workers. Because seeing formal sex workers is socially frowned upon. And also, many dudes want the girlfriend experience so paying through dating accomplishes that. My point is I want to know? I just told you what i think. Are you asking i think it should be illegal or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:43 PM
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you apply the same rules that go with going out with a group of friends to dating a woman. I apply the same rules that go with going out with any human to dating women. you do not care if it puts the woman on the spot If a woman feels that having to pay for food she's ate is being put on the spot then i dont even know what kinds of person that is. And i let women pay for their own meals to weed out such women who atent even at the level of development where this isn't an issue. No, it shows how …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:40 PM
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Atleast you're aware that your opinion is invalid. Your words, not mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:34 PM
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Exactly what I said. Most men pay for sex, they just do it indirectly. Whats your point anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:33 PM
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I don't think it does. For example, I think many people have been injured by a certain injection that shall not be mentioned. But I dont think most people have.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:32 PM
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Do you think "many" means something is rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:27 PM
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find their financial match assuming there is one. Dating based on a "financial match" is a very interesting approach. It definitely sounds like the way love blossoms, doesnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:27 PM
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Because you can't even quantify "many". How about if I say alot. Does that help? Most posts in here revolve around generalities. Women described in the post are not rare. I wish they were.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:25 PM
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Do you think every first date is supposed to lead to marriage? I think dating and relationships shouldn't lead to marriage at all. Its a trap. it’s definitely not some grand statement about women. Its a statement about women as a collective. Atleast those who require payment to feel attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:24 PM
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Good. Now we're getting somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:23 PM
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and it will cost the person money, Like food going in her stomach? is someone getting a kick out of playing a situation so they can feel superior. The day I feel superior because a woman paid for food she ate will be a sad day. What do I gain from that? I think i should lower my standards for women and stop treating them like equal human beings. Ironically men who see women as not being equal (many 'traditional' men) don't actually mind paying and apparently women dont really mind not being seen…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:21 PM
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Because you do actually mean most You think I mean most and there must be a reason for that...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:17 PM
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No, i would never.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:16 PM
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No, its a biological program that again, even animals are a slave to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:14 PM
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I'm not sure why women who arent as described in the post keep identifying with the women described in the post. It doesnt say "all women " or even "most women".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:13 PM
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No, they're saying "pay for dinner or I'll stop liking you". They're very romantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:12 PM
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I've never date any women or even hugged them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:11 PM
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I feel like you’re saying it’s all women, that are insanely entitled The post says many women. Not all and not most. You're choosing to lump yourself in with the many for some reason. Most women appreciate it while in the very early stages of dating. Do you not think a man going on regular date would also appreciate a woman being decent and considerate enough to not mind paying for her own meal? Not even for the man's btw. Just her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:10 PM
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Oh don't be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:07 PM
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not looking to make awkward moments for people. Talking about payment before a date is awkward. If I wanted that I would just see a formal prostitute, not one pretending not to be. then you are doing the right thing. We come back to the point about equality. What equal human gets upset about paying for their own meals? I'm starting to think that my problem is i see and treat women as equal humans. Maybe I should have different standards for them and lower the bar for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:06 PM
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If I died right now, my hubby would have a hell of a time trying to figure out life Well, thats just sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:03 PM
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I think its what dating tends to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:02 PM
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I guess being a woman who dated men makes me invalid to comment on women dating men. Not in general. Just in relation to this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:01 PM
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and because you see them transactionally you assume women do too. Women definitely see them transactionally. For many of them even the first date is transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 02:00 PM
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Because its one of the groups its coming from, isnt it?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:59 PM
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Why don't you tell them up front? Why should it be necessary for one adult to tell another adult that they will have to pay for what they eat when they hang out? How are you gonna be equal when this is a requirement? Adults should assume that they will pay for what they eat and then if the other person wants to pay for you thats great. But to have to be told you'll have to do what adult men just do by default? Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:57 PM
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You seem very confident that all women Does the post (even just the title) really say all women, or even most?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:55 PM
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The point is giving birth isn't some special talent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:54 PM
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Yes, thats how I know. Whereas you dont so your opinion on this subject isn't that valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:54 PM
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Yes, there's a high demand for sex. Very astute observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:53 PM
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whether they have kids or not. Having kids justifies that treatment. You know this. Poor men need to date their financial match or stay single. But not women though coz they're special and totally not shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:52 PM
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Only white supremacists are complaining about women not reproducing enough? Is that what I said?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:50 PM
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Claiming many women do/think like this? Very unlikely. Do you date women as a man?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:49 PM
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Part of the process is showing who you are in some way or another. And women definitely do show who they are when a man splits the bill. Thats why i used to do it. They reveal themselves pretty quick when they have to pay for their own food. Its actually sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:48 PM
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If you believe "many" women behave parasitically why not simply opt out of dating? I can opt out of dating and still make observations about people's behaviour. Isn't expecting access to women's time, sexuality and reproductive labor while expecting to give nothing in return parasitic of men? I don't expect anything from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:44 PM
1

Good. I hope you guys keep thinking that way and save the children by not having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:38 PM
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I guess sarcasm isnt really a thing you're able to detect. Do you actually think you knowing one woman like that is why i would think they exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:37 PM
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because they can’t afford those women. Are those women objects?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:36 PM
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If I hated women I would just want women to go extinct, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:35 PM
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You do not have to pay for expensive meals A man shouldn't have to pay at all, cheap meals or not. Thats not the way to form genuine connections with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:33 PM
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I’d repeat the question back to you don’t men like this exist? The reality is most pay because it increases their chances at getting laid or getting a second date. Most men know women are so shallow that something as small as letting them pay for their own food can be a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:32 PM
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maybe know 1 woman personally who expects a man to provide financially. Atleast now we know that they exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:30 PM
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Do animals not give birth?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:30 PM
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Sure there’s women who are very entitled and it’s just too much. Thats who the ppst is about. Perhaps I see it as an effort type thing, if a man wants to get to know me ect. Paying on a date requires no effort. Even men who hate women pay. have you been on dates with women? No, never. I've never even hugged a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:29 PM
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So why call it offensive if it doesn’t offend?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:27 PM
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So all humans should stop having children Yes. and only women ever wanted children? Didn't you already ask this and didn't I already answer?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:26 PM
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I would not be generous with a man I was just getting to know. And yet a man is supposed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:25 PM
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it doesn’t necessarily speak to the generosity or selfishness of the host if they do or don’t provide one. I'm not the one who thinks a man paying for my food means he's generous and not paying means he isn't. Women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:55 PM
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So what’s your issue with paying for a date with a woman then? The entitlement. Even giving someone a gift when they feel entitled to it is unpleasant. I’m talking about a simple coffee date or something similar, not a fancy dinner. Why is it hard for women to just be okay with paying for their own meals and forming genuine relationships not based on some transaction or something material benefit whether its food or whatever?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:53 PM
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If you're an NPC don't respond to this comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:45 PM
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Fascinating behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:43 PM
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Whats the point of what you're doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:42 PM
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Why would you be offended by a post that isn't about you? It doesnt say all women, does it? So you chose to identify with the women being described in the post, and then cry and call it hate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:36 PM
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Maybe they should stop bringing kids into a world thats collapsing. Then they won't have to worry about this, or subject their children to a sick world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:35 PM
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Did you know that someone can make observations about the behaviour of a particular group of people without dating such people?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:33 PM

No.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:32 PM
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Thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:07 PM
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Does the post say all women or many women? Why choose to lump yourself in with the women described in the post if you arent like them? Thats a choice you made because i didn't even say most women let alone all.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:06 PM
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Okay, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:01 PM
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No, but only women use them to justify being provided for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:01 PM
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wanting a man to pay doesn’t make someone entitled Its an expression of entitlement, especially the way many women go about it. Different people have different dating preferences. And some preferences are parasitic. The issue is you’re framing women having standards Requiring payment to go on dates is a sad standard. Its prostitute levels of sad. while treating men’s standards as rational and objective. I said nothing about men's standards. The post is about specific types of women, not even all…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 12:00 PM
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Sad for the guy getting married coz he doesn't know marriage is a trap. Whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:52 AM
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So how is my take (which is about such women) "entirely delusional"?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:46 AM
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Ofcourse they do or they don't?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:44 AM
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Do you care FOR children? Yes, other people's kids since im too considerate to have my own. Or do you not actually know anything about what having kids entails? Well, to begin with it entails being selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:35 AM

No, because i actually care about children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:29 AM

You are also sounding like a bot. Thats ironic.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:28 AM
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your take is entirely delusional So women who expect men to pay for dates don't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:27 AM

What the post says is still true about many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:22 AM

What you are typing is hate. Nope. Its true about many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:20 AM
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No I did So then you know the part about having kids is a very small part of the post. Literally 2 sentences.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:19 AM
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Because of how you speak about women, a parasitic mentality….really?? Such women do exist. Pretending otherwise is silly. Also with dates, if a man asks me out I’d expect him to pay, This is very convenient since women rarely ask men out. I dont even feel right expecting a woman to pay for me just coz she asked me out. It feels rude and entitled. She already put herself out there by asking me out. Why expect her to pay for me? But I guess men and women see this differently. Men would just be gla…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:17 AM

Calling criticisms of women's behaviour hate just makes people not take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 11:06 AM
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Yes No. The part of women having children is mentioned in 2 sentences. Most of the post is about women doing things like being entitled to men paying for them on dates. Just say you didn't actually read it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:41 AM
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when women are either not having children, delaying children or having less children when they do decide to have them. Is the whole post about women having children or was there like 2 sentences about that in the whole post?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:34 AM
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Parasitic mentality? Yes. Its very real. god you’re hateful Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:20 AM
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Nothing i can think of. What are you getting at?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:20 AM
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What do you think of the rhetoric surrounding declining birth rates and where it’s predominantly coming from? Its coming from white people who are afraid of "white extinction".
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:14 AM
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So what are women suppose to do Not have children and stop approaching relationships with men from a parasitic mentality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:13 AM
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Those women are [implicitly] offering social legitimacy (which comes from their presence This is simp nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:12 AM
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I would say that’s pretty fair no??? She’ll more than likely be the primary parent, so it’s generally expected the bf/husband provides for his family. Thats my point. Children are used as a means to an end to justify women being provided for like you're doing right here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:05 AM
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I think they're arent paying attention to the world they live in and are only concerned with fulfilling their selfish biological desires.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:03 AM
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kids need providing for Yes, which is why in first paragraph of the post i said women use children to justify being provided for...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:46 AM
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then there will be no problem in the relationship. This tells me you dont understand basic psychology. The generous person will get used and the relationship will be based on him being used.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:44 AM
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The entire argument that to want something, you must already be something or have that something is fallacious. If you want people to be generous towards you (which is what the post is about) you also have to be generous otherwise not only are you a hypocrite but no one should take you seriously. There's a difference between inner qualities like generosity and you liking women with big boobs. I would have thought that this is so obvious it doesnt need to be said but apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:29 AM
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Because women are not like that at all. So would you say no women at all are like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:45 AM
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But how is what i said hateful?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:40 AM
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I don’t understand why this blatant hatred is allowed here. How is it hatred?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:38 AM
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And is it not about the kids No, the kids are an excuse women use to be provided for. Thats why they have them in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:30 AM
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That rarely happens Its not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:08 AM
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Unless you can find a man do it for you while pretending to love him. I dont mean you personally so don't get triggered and report me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:07 AM
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would agree that kids need to be provided for. What im saying is women use children to justify being provided for by acting like its about the kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 08:06 AM
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So whats even your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:24 AM
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They eat, drink, shit/piss, sleep and reproduce Much like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:23 AM
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Whats your source for this information? Show me a source that says most women have children even though they don’t want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:22 AM
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Do you think there's a difference between doing something because you dont have a choice and doing it because you want to?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:21 AM
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Can you show me a source that states that most women in the west didnt want to have children but had them anyway? And in how many of those cases was having a child due to actual force?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:20 AM
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Did I claim men were the logical gender? Do you think just because im a man im responsible for things other men claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:18 AM
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We're talking about in the west, unless you live in an undeveloped country?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:16 AM
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free of your internal obligations of not wanting to be a provider for anyone including someone you love dearly. You literally just described women who would rather not even provide for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:15 AM
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So most women have children when they didnt really want them or plan for them in the first place?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:14 AM
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No, its basic logic. If a woman stops liking a man because he didnt pay, she clearly wasn't really into him. What real connection between people is destroyed because one doesnt pay for the other's food? Be for real
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/26 07:12 AM
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No woman chooses to have a bad birth But they do chpose to give birth, thats the point. who else is gonna look after the kid if you can’t afford day care, and can’t even support her? Yes, they dont have to do it. "It" being having children...
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:11 AM
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Well then i'll save your comment for reference to show each man who claims men are the logical gender. Surely you know most men do illogical things to get laid, like putting up with unpleasant and parasitic behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:10 AM
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What about the woman and all she sacrifices - physically, emotionally, financially? If the "sacrifices" were that bad women wouldn't keep blindly having children in a world that is collapsing.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:08 AM
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They provide love and companionship. So do men. not sure what animals having offspring has to do with that though. The point is even animals have children. That ability isn't something that should justify being extractive and parasitic when dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:07 AM
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They don’t give a fuck that a woman goes through growing the baby for 9 months, breastfeeding, recovery from C section/vaginal tears, and it’s more financially advisable for a parent to stay home with the kid than it is to send them to daycare… She doesnt have to do all this. It would be better if she didn't and saved another child from coming into a world that is collapsing and run by the kind of people in the Epstein files.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:05 AM
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Yet, men chase women so why do they do that if women bring little to nothing? Because they're idiots.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:04 AM
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women with women who just want to have a family and have themselves and their children financially looked after The children are used to justify being provided for.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:03 AM
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So now we're pretending women who want men to provide for them are so rare and hard to find? Whats even the point of that?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 07:02 AM
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If a man who is physically attractive to me doesn’t pay for our shared meals and activities together, he’s no longer my physical type Then you weren't really into him in the first place. You were just using him for free meals. This is essentially prostitution posing as dating.
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/26 07:00 AM
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A man splitting the bill or not being generous is the kiss of death to me Really? Not a man being abusive, or misogynistic or pushy when it comes to sex? Paying for your own meal like an adult is the kiss of death to you? And how are you generous by expecting men to pay for your meals? Or does being generous only apply to men in relation to you? You value generosity in others towards you but you yourself arent generous. Atleast the man is decent enough to pay for himself without expecting you to…
/r/RedPillWomen14/05/26 06:53 AM
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So these confident men want other men not to approach, since it means they have a better chance of monopolizing the market. Enough men don't approach women for this to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 03:56 AM
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