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| 2 | The Painful Irony Women of Color don't realize.Exactly. Indian woman here too, and I would ideally want someone Indian (ideally raised in the U.K. like me), so that we share a similar culture, etc and also because I find brown/desi men attractive, and don’t have any particular preference for white skin. The idea that someone can actually not think light skin looks much better, and is much more attractive than darker skin sadly seems so far removed to these guys that they assume we all think like them. Also on another note though Latino cultu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 10:14 AM |
| 1 | The Painful Irony Women of Color don't realize.Also this. A lot of these grifters don’t even actually believe the nonsense they say on social media… They just do it to get attention, and it’s amazing how so many people don’t seem to realise this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/01/23 12:34 AM |
| 2 | The Painful Irony Women of Color don't realize.Exactly. Not to mention fake tan and lip fillers too lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/23 09:46 PM |
| 4 | The Painful Irony Women of Color don't realize.9/10 times the ones using skin lightening products, etc. aren't even particularly into white men lmao. The preference for lighter skin in POC communities may have been caused by colonialism, but in the present day, the irony is that the specific preference for light skinned WOC is strongest amongst MOC themselves, not white men. This is why a good chunk of the black and Indian women you see with white men are actually on the darker side, or at least don't actively do anything to look "whiter" as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/23 05:54 PM |
| 12 | The Painful Irony Women of Color don't realize.Huh? I am a woman of colour living in the UK, and know many other WOC here. The vast majority I know don't even have a preference for white men, let alone an "insatiable thirst" as you put it. Most Black African/Caribbean women here seem to mostly be into black men, and most South Asian women (Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi) also mostly date and marry South Asian men... The truth is that when it comes South Asian women, a lot of this whole narrative from South Asian men about us all being "wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/01/23 05:38 PM |
| 1 | In general do men really get better with age and become more attractive to women?The majority of people in general don't get better looking as they age. Some people (most of whom were very conventionally good looking to begin with) maintain their looks, (either through good healthcare/grooming or just luck, or a bit of both) and remain desirable to a lot of people as a result. Someone who most would consider average (let alone the ones who were considered bad/below average looking) becoming better and better looking in the conventional sense as they get older is highly, high… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/22 01:14 PM |
| 3 | ''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice.So what if he's a famous actor? She's a famous actress too. A regular guy who's considered below average looking can just find a regular woman who's considered below average looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 04:05 PM |
| 3 | ''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice.You really decided to wake up and spit facts didn't you | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 03:56 PM |
| 1 | ''Just be who are you'' and ''It's all about your heart'' is terrible advice.I agree that "it's all about your heart" is dumb dating advice, because whether we like it or not, looks/presentation do matter. Not to the extent/in the way "I" words claim (no woman will be attracted to you unless you're a muscular 6 foot tall prime Zac Efron looking GigaChad, etc.), but it's ridiculous to tell people that how they look won't have any bearing on their dating experience. "Just be who you are" is actually pretty sound though, because there's no point faking a whole personality t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 03:51 PM |
| 2 | What exactly makes women horny?This. Also even ignoring this side of it, I do feel most men would be disgusted, creeped out or at best just find it embarrassing or funny if they got flashed or sent unsolicited nudes by a woman they don't find attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 12:00 PM |
| 1 | What exactly makes women horny?I guarantee most men would not be happy if some random unknown woman he personally found ugly/unattractive flashed him lmao. But coming back to your question, I think it's different for different women. Seeing a naked man who's the type she's attracted to, in the right context *for her* would definitely be a turn on for most straight or bi women, it's just that getting flashed by some nitty on the street or receiving unsolicited dick pics from the town weirdo on Instagram is a totally different … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/22 11:37 AM |
| 5 | Q4W: Why do women care so much when a man prefers inexperienced/virgin women?Yes it is, if any women like that genuinely are doing that (and not just saying it as som sort of joke) then they’re equally stupid/delusional imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 09:43 AM |
| 0 | The elephant in the room that women have attempted to get us to ignore: women are not attracted to genuinely nice guysI can see what you're trying to say, but this is a little too simplistic imo. Firstly, having a more confident, dominant personality doesn't have to mean being excessively controlling. Yes, some confident people are like that, but many also aren't. We also can't ignore the fact that like most other things, confidence/dominance exists on a spectrum. And I have to disagree a lot more strongly with the second point tbh. Someone who presents as mild and submissive isn't necessarily incapable of infl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 08:55 AM |
| 7 | The elephant in the room that women have attempted to get us to ignore: women are not attracted to genuinely nice guysIt’s true that many women are not attracted to men who present as very submissive for various reasons. But that said, the main mistake in this post, and the general way of thinking it is based off is these two interlinked ideas : . Outwardly presenting as submissive = a good person . Appearing dominant/confident = a bad person A person with a more dominant or confident personality isn’t necessarily an “asshole” or a fundamentally bad human being… Also, a lot of people with a naturally passive/su… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 12:13 PM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?It clearly does not represent how things are in "tOdAy'S aMeRiCa" lmao. What you said is essentially equivalent to the type of people who (for various differing reasons) try to claim it's common for women to get raped by total strangers walking down the street, just because they read a few news stories about the same (when it has been proven time and again that in reality, most abusers are previously known to the victim). Basically, you're embodying the exact same illogical "hysteria" you claim … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 06:33 PM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?None of this represents the norm when it comes to how most real life workplace sexual harassment cases in the west (or other places, for that matter) are filed/dealt with. Copy pasting links to a couple of absurd individual cases (that were in fact so unusual they made international headlines) can't change that fact. Also it's beyond ridiculous to bring communism into this... Supporting MeToo does not mean supporting that lmao. Lastly, if you're against MeToo, what is your solution for the issue… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/22 09:47 AM |
| 1 | Generational differences in hotness standardsObesity is genuinely not that common in people in their 20s. And receding hairlines in your TWENTIES are seriously rare fr... But if by skinny fat you just mean unfit and of an average weight, I agree on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 09:35 PM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?You do realise MeToo is about harassment and rape, and that too particularly from bosses (who basically have a hold on their victim's career), right? This is not about consensual relationships, or even cases where the rejected party just takes no for an answer and moves on. Not to mention most young 20+ men are most certainly not going to be actual superiors to women in the same age group in their workplace... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 04:13 PM |
| 1 | How are people supposed to find partners?Basically unusual and situations/individuals get the most attention, while the bulk is seen as less interesting, and as a result ignored. The problem comes when people start thinking whatever gets the most attention on social media, or in the media as a whole isn't necessarily what's most common in the real world, when in fact it is likely to be the exact opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:53 PM |
| 1 | Generational differences in hotness standardsMost men *do not* start losing hair in their 20s lol, most guys in that age group are not overweight either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Generational differences in hotness standardsBingo! Only problem is, a lot of people on this sub will never accept it lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:17 PM |
| 3 | Generational differences in hotness standardsAn average 20 something guy is not particularly fat, and certainly not bald lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:15 PM |
| 2 | Generational differences in hotness standards21 here, and agree completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Generational differences in hotness standardsNah, you guys are right. The majority of people who'd be considered average looking by most do date/have sex even in this generation, as do many of the ones seen as below average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/22 03:04 PM |
| 1 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to bePretty sure the statistic accounts for that, but even if it doesn’t, it’s probably a good sign that more people who shouldn’t be getting married aren’t lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/22 05:57 PM |
| 22 | the divorce rate isn't as scary as men here make it out to be50% was always a predicted figure, not an actual one. Divorce has actually gone down in recent years as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 10:59 PM |
| 1 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldI hope so at least | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/22 08:12 PM |
| 1 | The state is the problem between men and women.Wow imagine wanting to control women this much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 09:50 PM |
| 1 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldI agree completely, I was just trying to call out OP's blatant hypocrisy there in my first reply | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 05:56 PM |
| 1 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldSorry to hear, and for the record I’d say it’s wrong no matter what the gender or sexuality of the person who does it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 12:14 AM |
| 5 | If A Man Can Get A Younger Partner By Dumping His Older One Then He ShouldWould you say a woman should do the same too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/22 10:45 PM |
| 1 | One common issue i’ve seen here is that people tend to treat dating as some kind of equation or formulaAgreed x10000. Humans are way too diverse for most of the theories people come up with (mostly based on highly biased opinions rather than fact), and then treat as some sort of timeless gospel truths on this sub- and that too no matter how many times they get debunked. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 06:06 PM |
| 4 | You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship WithAlso not to be presumptuous, but many third world countries have cultures which can be quite strict about gender roles, and also not have much agency for women. So it's not necessarily the women being genuinely attracted to money above all else, as it is them being pushed in that direction by the society they live in (older relatives, etc.), or heading that way due to a lack of other options for women like them. In a society where there is less poverty and women have more equality and agency, mo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 06:01 PM |
| 0 | You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship WithThe guy she had sex with but didn't want to settle down with may not have necessarily been "alpha" though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 05:48 PM |
| 2 | the forsure way you know they desire you is usually during sexAgreed, it's not just about the man as an individual (though I'm not denying that might play a part). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 05:43 PM |
| 1 | the forsure way you know they desire you is usually during sexMost men 100% mock women they find weird/unattractive too, especially if they suspect they may be interested in them, it's not like that's an exclusively female thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 05:35 PM |
| 1 | the forsure way you know they desire you is usually during sexIt's because in their minds, they're *allowed* to care about that stuff, but we're not lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Would you be still Pro Choice if there was an option to remove the fetus without killing itShit I miss understood the question, meant to say no lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 04:42 PM |
| 0 | Would you be still Pro Choice if there was an option to remove the fetus without killing itObviously yes Edit- misunderstood the question, was meaning to say no, i.e. I would obviously be pro-life if the situation described in this post were to be the reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/22 10:51 AM |
| 1 | Was it a positive thing to mix boys and girls in schools together?We can go on debating whether or not that kind of society (US/Western European society in our great grandparents time) was “better” than present day society in the same areas, in what ways, for who, why, etc. …. But the un-changeable fact of the matter is the kind of lifestyle that was promoted in that era (and still is, in certain groups) seems to have been shaped around all the science and technology we have now that they didn’t have access to back then, and is simply not compatible with the w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 08:06 PM |
| 2 | What is more important Physical Connection or Emotional Connection?A dead bedroom isn’t necessarily just a result of less of a sexual connect, or less sexual attraction from one or both people. A lot of the time there’s various other issues the partners have with one another that result in that kind of situation. Not saying that a simple lack of physical attraction or sexual chemistry can’t be responsible for a DB kind of situation, but I feel like there’s often other factors involved that get ignored. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:35 PM |
| 3 | What is more important Physical Connection or Emotional Connection?I feel like you can feel a different kind of emotional connection to a potential partner/partner though? Like it’s not exactly the same as what you’d feel for a friend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:26 PM |
| 1 | What is more important Physical Connection or Emotional Connection?Emotional/mental connection has the edge for a long term relationship imo, but both are extremely important, and a relationship with minimal sexual attraction/connection is unlikely to last long, or be a happy one at any rate… The sexual side is obviously crucial but at the end of the day, the majority of time you spend together as a couple isn’t going to be spent just having sex lol. If you don’t enjoy chatting to your partner or going on outings/holidays together, or share similar plans for li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/22 07:22 PM |
| 1 | The “ bad boy” stereotype exists because of the halo affect on womenAgreed. Guys who are likely to be controlling or abusive partners often look out for weak/naive girls, they know the bitchy types are much less likely to put up with their crap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 03:20 PM |
| 2 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?You're ok OP, the real cutoff is like mid 20s, and it's not impossible to lose it even then haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 02:54 PM |
| 2 | Most of the time when men react with frustration when women reject them it is because the woman is less attractive than them and has an inflated image, not because they are “entitled to sex.” Women react the same way when they don’t get what they feel they “deserve,” yet only one is shamed for it.Lmao if the women are so far below these guys, why do they want them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/05/22 07:10 AM |
| 2 | TrueRateMe's "objective" attractiveness rating scheme is easily debunkedTotally agree on Joey and Emily, also I feel like Shay Mitchell should be higher on the list as well | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/22 06:26 PM |
| 1 | TrueRateMe's "objective" attractiveness rating scheme is easily debunkedParts of this list are actually hilarious lol… Saorise is average looking? And then women get labelled as having overly high standards by some of these guys lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/05/22 06:22 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Aging means committment is based on false advertisingThank you!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 08:38 AM |
| 4 | Do more prudish/absitent societies have more "satisfying" sex lives?People in more prudish societies absolutely don't enjoy sex more, especially not the women. In most of the *extreme* prudish/conservative societies, women were and still are essentially given two options- . Be a Good WomanTM- i.e. indulge in absolutely no sexual activities until your (usually very early and arranged) marriage, where it'll likely be your duty as a "good wife" to match his exact sex drive and never want it when he doesn't, or say no to him when he does, and so on. This cycle is ex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 08:29 AM |
| 4 | Do more prudish/absitent societies have more "satisfying" sex lives?It's not so much about the actual content of the original religious texts/scriptures as it is how said content is interpreted, and put into practice by the communities that claim to follow it that I feel OP, and most others talking about religious societies being sexist/generally regressive are referring to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/04/22 07:48 AM |
| 6 | Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasyThat’s fair enough then haha. Relationships are fairly easy to find for most people, but healthy, happy relationships that also stand the test of time are hard to find for pretty much everyone. It’s actually pretty depressing when you realise that most relationships actually won’t last, and a sizeable chunk of those that do “last” most likely won’t be happy, and therefor aren’t actually lasting in the real sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 02:44 PM |
| 2 | Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasyThe last two sentences >>> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 10:03 AM |
| 21 | Most men don't have trouble dating and "betabucks" is mostly fantasyMost women don’t easily get perfectly happy stress free relationships either lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/22 10:01 AM |
| 0 | Do you support a publicly accessible domestic violence offender registry, similar to the sex offender registry?What statistics are you using for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/04/22 08:08 AM |
| 5 | Do you support a publicly accessible domestic violence offender registry, similar to the sex offender registry?Wow learn something new everyday, that's great | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 11:27 PM |
| 14 | Do you support a publicly accessible domestic violence offender registry, similar to the sex offender registry?Honestly what is the likelihood of that? Bear in mid we aren't even talking about some nutcase making allegations on TikTok lol... people only get their name on the register if these allegations have actually been reported to police, made it to court and been proven after a trial. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/04/22 11:07 PM |
| 2 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleThis is a joke lol, I actually know a couple who have struggled. Below average people generally struggle (how much depends on how far below average they are), and red pillers belonging to that category are using those experiences to brainwash legit average young men. Either that or they are average/above average and expect women way out of their league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:32 AM |
| -2 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleBut there are TONNES of girls on that app... Wtf would they even be doing there if they only want to right-swipe Zac Efron/Michael B. Jordan looking guys? Because nobody is stupid enough to think the majority of guys look like that lol. And even assuming that someone was actually that stupid, surely they would be off the app within a week after seeing the general standard lmao? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:28 AM |
| -1 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleYou have to be very out of touch with reality to think those types of news-worthy stories are an accurate representation of the norm lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:23 AM |
| 0 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleWomen would get a lot more responses on sites/apps that are totally dominated by men, but Yubo isn't like that lol. There's lots of women on there, and many pretty ones as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:22 AM |
| 1 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleLol at the first part, but the last sentence is true. I'd say it applies to most men as well though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:19 AM |
| -1 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleSo you really wanna believe no girl spoke to these guys besides me? Lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:17 AM |
| -2 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleWhat would you say these biases are? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:15 AM |
| -2 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleWell below average people of any gender/sexuality do struggle, especially if they won't date within their league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:15 AM |
| -8 | Online Dating Is Actually OK For Average PeopleFirst of all, people need to stop with this idea that average women have it so much better than average men because we don't lmao. Secondly, I know from the profiles I kept having to swipe that this app definitely was not a Tinder level sausage party lol, there were plenty of girls on it, many objectively prettier, with better bodies than me too. I also did say guys on there I chatted to were doing fine as well, even MOC who are known to get less responses compared to white men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Men "riding the pussy carousel"? (my mum seeing men in their 20s that way)THIS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:04 AM |
| 2 | Men "riding the pussy carousel"? (my mum seeing men in their 20s that way)I wish there was a "love" option under comments on Reddit for that last sentence! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/04/22 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Where do you draw the line in this new era of pornography?I'd draw the line at liking it lol, anybody that retweets porn or pays OF girls seems too crazy to even think of entertaining lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/03/22 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Would you be in a relationship with a man that didn't want to get married?Nope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/03/22 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Be honest, in your personal life, do you see more women punching up, or men punching up?Men punching up usually | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 10:56 PM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you believe that men have it harder?On average? Hell no lmao. But if it is a comparison between individuals where there are other factors involved like race, health, economic stays or sexuality, then yes, sometimes it is possible. Like it would be idiotic to suggest a homeless, disabled man has a better/easier life than a well to do, able bodied woman just because he’s male. But at the same time, a homeless, disabled woman would probably be faced with worse prospects than a man in the same situation, and to deny that would be equa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/03/22 10:32 PM |
| 1 | Women focus on careers because a career is a good investment, a man generally isn'tMost women don't want a stay at home partner, but then again if that's what you want to do, you should go for it. It'll narrow your pool but at least you won't end up with a partner you're not compatible with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/09/21 05:27 PM |
| 13 | Women focus on careers because a career is a good investment, a man generally isn'tTo all the men vehemently disagreeing with OP, I have one question: if being a stay at home partner/parent is so fantastic, why don't you want to be one? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/09/21 05:26 PM |
| 2 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?Not necessarily lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/09/21 08:09 AM |
| 3 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?The majority of that group aren't THAT greedy lmao. Not to mention most older men actually don't even have that much money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Is there a "secret underworld" of sex going on all the time?What is? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 08:59 PM |
| 9 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?And why would conventionally attractive younger women with plenty of options want some late virgin/divorcee older man with pattern baldness, a beer gut and red pill views about women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?BINGO! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 10:20 AM |
| 13 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?Because they as older men (or younger men who struggle with getting girls and hope things will get better as they get older) want to sleep with/date/marry much younger women, and like to comfort themselves and each other with the idea that most 18-25 year old women are genuinely more attracted to men in their 30s, 40s or even older than men in their own age group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 10:07 AM |
| 14 | Why do men push the Older Man/Younger woman dynamic?Strippers and OF girls aren't "attracted to" successful men, they just want more money lmao. The naivety of that comment is actually astounding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 08:03 AM |
| 2 | Is there a "secret underworld" of sex going on all the time?Not every abortion is from a non-committed relationship? I know of women who had them when they were in long term relationships and a couple were even married! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 07:43 AM |
| 4 | Is there a "secret underworld" of sex going on all the time?I think we have to keep in mind that these ("I" words and many redpillers) are groups of people who are of the firmest belief that 80% of young men today are more or less living the "I" word lifestyle, and the remaining "top" 20% of young men, along with 90% of young women, are constantly having different FWBs, doing one-night stands, group sex, swinging, etc., and basically living out their PornHub inspired dreams... Needless to say, these people aren't necessarily the best judges of what most … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 07:18 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women's choices do not make sense to men because most men do not understand women's sexuality.Aw thanks haha. And you're definitely right about these people needing fresh air lol, what they say about dating, etc. often really has no connection to reality at all, and they'd realise that themselves if they just got out more! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/09/21 06:57 AM |
| 1 | Observations on Male socialization vs Female socializationNo it doesn't lol, not present day contemporary feminism at any rate. Most modern feminists would outright reject the idea that women are intrinsically more submissive, more forgiving, more sacrificing, etc., and see these beliefs as ultimately harmful to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 08:38 PM |
| 1 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.As if men don't whine about relationships constantly too lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 03:06 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women's choices do not make sense to men because most men do not understand women's sexuality.Let alone the greatest, even the ones you could describe as typical "Chads" or "Chad-lites" don't normally go anywhere near stereotypically bad looking girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 12:36 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women's choices do not make sense to men because most men do not understand women's sexuality.None of this correlates with reality at all lmao. It's stuff like this that makes me wonder if some people on this sub are actually living on other planets! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 12:32 PM |
| 2 | Observations on Male socialization vs Female socializationIt's what redpill men want for sure | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 12:10 PM |
| 2 | Observations on Male socialization vs Female socializationThe reason men feel "lied to" is benevolent sexism, not feminism. There is nothing feminist about presenting most women as these naturally all-loving, all-sacrificing, all-forgiving beings (at least when it comes to how they relate to their partners at any rate). It's this type of presentation of women, and the often implicit but sometimes open suggestion that women that don't match up to this ideal are evil harpies out to kill everyone, that leads to boys and young men having unhealthy expectat… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 12:03 PM |
| 1 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.In the nicest way possible, I think your argument died the second you typed out "I for one don't think there is such a thing as a happy woman in a happy relationship". And these are the people that try to tell everyone that feminists are irrational lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/09/21 11:56 AM |
| 3 | "Pornsickness" is exclusively a concern of undesirable womenShould’ve seen that coming lol 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 09:22 PM |
| 2 | "Pornsickness" is exclusively a concern of undesirable womenNot true at all, most women who are anti-porn acknowledge that porn addiction has a massive hand in increasing sexual harassment too (which tends to affect women with conventionally attractive traits a lot more), as well as a bunch of other things that affect all different types of women. It's not all about porn addicts not wanting sex with their partners, that's just a very small part of huge issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | The vicious cycle of feminismMore men missing the days when most women had to marry just for sustenance lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | How much do you value the n-count of your partner?Don't care unless he's a late virgin, or got a ridiculously high one (20-30+), since both are red flags imo. Anything in the middle is fine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 07:09 PM |
| 1 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.Why do you make it sound like having to pay attention to your partner's wants/needs, do nice things for them, etc. is some sort of cruel punishment? In a healthy relationship, both parties should get at least a minimal amount of happiness/satisfaction out of doing the aforementioned for their partner... Honestly it's quite interesting the way you try to make women look so evil and immoral just for wanting gifts or affection outside of sex from their partners, while the man constantly wanting sex… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/21 12:47 PM |
| 1 | Do you think equality has actually made women unhappy today?The issue seems to be that enough women aren't choosing what some men would like them to choose lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/21 11:12 AM |
| 1 | Do you think equality has actually made women unhappy today?The best answer here tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/21 11:08 AM |
| 1 | Do you think equality has actually made women unhappy today?This is the truth | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/21 10:47 AM |
| 1 | Do you think equality has actually made women unhappy today?Nope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/21 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Autism linked to Extremism?Yeah and they keep sharing their own warped world views with one another, creating echo chambers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/21 10:40 AM |
| 1 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.So what do you suggest a man in that situation should do then? Just whine about it to other people, build up resentment, and do absolutely nothing about it? Or cheat? I think my solution (followed by separation/divorce if not much changes and it really bothers him that much) is much better than those options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/21 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Is OF porn and sex work predatory on desperate and lonely men?My favourite comment in this thread tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 06:56 PM |
| 1 | Is OF porn and sex work predatory on desperate and lonely men?It's definitely much worse for the women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Is OF porn and sex work predatory on desperate and lonely men?Maybe it is kind of tbh, I mean I can't see any sane person spending real money just to see pictures and videos naked women when the same content is easily available for free. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 06:47 PM |
| 1 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.I'll accept those are two very different things tbh (and one is normal, but the other clearly isn't). Though one thing I'll say is that the man constantly whining about a dead bedroom without being upfront about it or just leaving is no better than the woman just not having sex anymore to show her heart isn't in it. Both are keeping their partners in the dark about what they really want, most likely due to reasons of convenience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/09/21 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Redpillers of PPD - What is your most "Blue Pill" belief? Bluepillers of PPD - What is your most "Red Pill" belief?So true, also love the distinction between attraction and desirability, so important in these discussions | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/09/21 10:24 AM |
| 2 | What would be the female equivalent of a man being traumatized by his wife/GF's sexual past?There isn't any, because the vast majority of us are nowhere near that level of insecurity lol. Anyone getting suicidal over their partner's sexual past is clearly not well at all to begin with (with the exception of finding out they participate in sexual abuse of some sort, in which case it is understandable). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:56 PM |
| 2 | The name of the game is brutal, painful honesty on this prompt folks.I'm a woman, and for me things a lot of women seem to do that really annoy me are: . Constantly complaining about people and things without actually doing anything about it. . Being overly judgmental of other women and overly easy on men . Not being remotely upfront about things .Trying to form serious relationships with men who clearly just aren't cut out for them, or have very little genuine interest in these women at any rate . (Less common than the above but a growing trend) Doing sexual stu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:49 PM |
| 1 | What is concerning about much younger woman/much older man age-gap relationships?Age and race are two entirely different things lmfao, can't believe you even made that ridiculous comparison. Plus plenty of people feel genuine attraction to people of other races, actually being drawn to much older people is highly uncommon, most are just in it for the money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/21 05:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngYeah I know. My point is that those who do don't want to do it with older men for the most part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 09:55 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngBut most of those that do don't want to marry older men lol. If in doubt look at those who have married or had kids very young (definitely not the majority anymore but not as negligible a group as this sub makes out either). It's almost always with guys around their own age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 05:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do women have a lower threshold for disgust in regards to sex?Very true | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 05:10 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngLmao exactly. If young women tell them it's because "we haven't discovered our true desires yet" or some such nonsense. If older women do it's because they're jealous of the younger women. These guys are just completely unwilling to accept the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:54 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngIt's ridiculous, no matter how many of us young women come here and explain that neither we nor most of the other young women we know actually prefer older men, these redpillers want to keep believing we all do. Coping hard lol the lot of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:34 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngLol exactly, these guys just want to live in a fantasy world where hoards of pretty young women are thirsting over average-bad looking middle aged men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:25 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngI love this so much lol, so funny but so true! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:17 AM |
| 2 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngLol except we do? Most young women don't actually date/sleep with/marry much older men lol, and I'm pretty sure they actually never did. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:13 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Society should encourage men to marry youngMarrying very young (under mid 20s) is usually not an excellent idea for anyone in this day and age, but that is the only option for a guy who wants a very young, conventionally attractive, normal, virgin wife- only problem is the ones claiming they want the aforementioned rarely want to take it lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:11 AM |
| 1 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.This was a great explanation! I understand that phrase much better now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:07 AM |
| 1 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”The whole "resources" addition is literal proof that these "instincts" vary from person to person, and can change a lot due to how society is at the time lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:03 AM |
| 2 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.Why do you make it sound like it's a massive crime on the woman's part to not want sex sometimes lmao? It's actually pretty weird to want sex ALL the time regardless of mood, etc., and I'm saying this as someone who doesn't have a low drive at all lol. I'm pretty sure most men wouldn't keep wanting sex if their wants/needs were being ignored by their partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Why do women have a lower threshold for disgust in regards to sex?But it's also true that most survivors never report, and many report days, months or even years later. Not victim blaming here, it just is what it is I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/21 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”I'm not being emotional. The low divorce rates in third world countries and OTT traditionalist religious cults despite the high rates of domestic violence these groups see are all the proof you need. Also why would I be bitter lol, I'm not interested in being with some 40 year old former "I" word who believes in the red pill lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 10:57 AM |
| 1 | Why do women have a lower threshold for disgust in regards to sex?It's socially ingrained in us from a young age, plus young men in this current generation have been watching more porn for years, which has further desensitised them to a large extent. Basically the only solution is for us women to learn to let go of ourselves and embrace our sexuality more, and the guys need to realise that their partner's preferences matter too, also real life isn't porn lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 10:42 AM |
| 5 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.What a breath of fresh air this common sense post is on this sub. Don't agree entirely with your line of thinking though, because I think most redpillers know what they want (and it's a just grade A doormat, plain and simple.) But this post actually makes sense which is kind of rare here these days so you can have my upvote anyway lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 10:29 AM |
| 3 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.So are we supposed to just put aside our own feelings altogether and go by whatever the man wants? Are we supposed to continue relationships solely because the other party wants to? You do realise that the aforementioned is a big factor in why the much feared "dead bedrooms", passive aggressive unhappy relationships, and even affairs occur, right? If you want a relationship with a woman- like it or not- her feelings and opinions are an important part of the relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 10:27 AM |
| 2 | (Most of) TRP and men who want a traditional submissive partner don't really know what they are asking for.How on Earth do you put "the relationship" above yourself and your partner? A relationship is literally just the conglomeration of two people's feelings, desires, interests, ambitions, etc. Sorry but I've never understood exactly what people mean when they use that phrase! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 10:23 AM |
| 3 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”Lol yes they are. That's why redpillers and misogynists in general love them so much | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 10:16 AM |
| 2 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”But logic and common sense trumps those things in the case of most sensible/normal people... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Why do women have a lower threshold for disgust in regards to sex?But it is a fact that a lot of the times rapists aren't convicted because the crime is reported too late and has no evidence, so I would say that it's almost always a better choice to report ASAP (as people would with literally any other crime). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 07:10 AM |
| 1 | Why do women have a lower threshold for disgust in regards to sex?This is true tbh. It's actually all about the vibe lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 07:05 AM |
| 2 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”Just get a damned DNA test if you're so unsure lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 06:55 AM |
| 1 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”That second paragraph >>> | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 06:53 AM |
| 2 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”BINGO. Same with the whole argument of certain countries having very low divorce rates, it's usually religious/cultural factors that result in that rather than genuinely much happier marriages. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 06:45 AM |
| 3 | Left-wing Gaslighting: “Women with few if any prior partners are MORE likely to cheat than women that have sown”Because they're most likely to be the types to shut up and put up no matter what happens lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/08/21 06:35 AM |
| 2 | Blaming men for all the miseries of women is only causing more issues in society.And what is it, exactly, that this person called "women" wants? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 04:30 PM |
| 9 | Women have lost big on feminism, men have won big, everyone is in denial about thisI think you need to re-read what you just wrote lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 12:51 PM |
| 5 | Do you think that in order for a man to be successful with dating that he has to know more about women than even women know about themselves?No man can know more about us than we know about ourselves lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 12:08 PM |
| 21 | Women have lost big on feminism, men have won big, everyone is in denial about thisWhat if we prefer to get to know our partners properly over guaranteed marriage? Or we actually like consenting sex (including stuff outside of five minutes kissing followed by five minutes missionary under the sheets lmao) and don't want to commit to a man forever without sleeping with him once? What if we actually like going to university/training vocationally and being financially independent? A lot of strange assumptions in this post about what women actually want and prioritise (which varie… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/21 12:04 PM |
| 1 | Women, describe a physically "universally attractive man" which encompasses what you feel is attractive and what the majority of women also find attractiveI don't think there's any such thing tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/21 11:25 PM |
| 1 | Men complaining about women who complain about age gaps are just shifting the blame.Really? Are you sure it's not because although these men aren't actually rich, they're a lot richer/better placed than the women involved? Or the women are the types who struggle to get men their own age for whatever reason? Because age gap relationships where that's not the case are highly unusual where I'm from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/21 11:37 AM |
| 2 | What is concerning about much younger woman/much older man age-gap relationships?That statement is not "bigotry", it is very much rooted in fact. The mental state and level of experience of a typical 40 year old is WORLDS away from that of a typical 18 year old. Not to mention the practical side of it of being at totally different points in life, etc. Can you imagine a 40 year old man going on a group outing with his 18 year old gf and her friends? Or meeting her father who may be just a few years older than he is? Even in the absence of external factors such as friends circ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/21 05:56 PM |
| 5 | Are you happy with relationships where your partner doesn't find you genuinely attractive?THIS | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 11:00 AM |
| 3 | What is concerning about much younger woman/much older man age-gap relationships?Relationships with huge age gaps (10-15+ years), especially ones where the younger party is actually very young, i.e. early 20s or younger are often very predatory because the older party has a shit ton more life experience, maturity, etc. which would instantly give them a massive upper hand over their partner (and this is very much part of the reason some older people love these kinds of relationships, but more on that later.) A huge difference in standing usually plays a big role in how these … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/21 09:55 AM |
| 1 | What is concerning about much younger woman/much older man age-gap relationships?Np, just being honest! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 05:49 PM |
| 5 | What is concerning about much younger woman/much older man age-gap relationships?This is the best answer here tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 04:45 PM |
| 13 | What is concerning about much younger woman/much older man age-gap relationships?I think why many people generally dislike such relationships is because they are usually either very predatory, an entirely transactional sex-for-money type of thing, or a combination of the two. And to put it bluntly, it says a lot of things about a 35-50+ year old man if he specifically sets out to ignore women in his own age bracket, and pursue women in their 20s, (or worse still those who are still in their TEENS), and none of them good. It's not a gender thing either btw, I'd say the same… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 04:31 PM |
| 1 | Men would make the exact same decisions they shame women forBut I've literally never seen any actual feminists claiming all men are bad (for any reason), or that women are intrinsically better as a whole. Never. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/21 10:37 AM |
| -1 | Men would make the exact same decisions they shame women forI have actually never seen or heard anyone who seriously identifies as a feminist claiming that women as a whole are biologically wired to be more altruistic, selfless, submissive, etc. It's always people who believe very strongly in traditional gender roles of a certain type who tend to push that line of thought, and then of course some naive men start to expect women they meet in real life to be that way, and when they realise we actually have different wants/dreams/desires/expectations of our… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/21 08:11 AM |
| 1 | Men would make the exact same decisions they shame women forOk fair enough lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Men would make the exact same decisions they shame women forFeminists usually just state facts with regards to crime, cheating, etc., but they acknowledge that these things are a result of social conditioning as opposed to anything intrinsic. People making the whole "women are inherently better than men" argument are usually pretty sexist themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 05:06 PM |
| 9 | Men would make the exact same decisions they shame women forExcept the idea that women (except for a few completely evil harpies of course) are great, eternally patient, all-loving, all-sacrificing completely selfless and sexless beings with minimal wants or desires of their own is a result of a type of benevolent patriarchy, not feminism as most red pillers like to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 04:24 PM |
| 18 | Men would make the exact same decisions they shame women forI'd go a step further and say that many of these things they say are assumptions made almost completely- if not wholly through projections. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/21 04:16 PM |
| 2 | Practical difficulties when it comes to large age gapsI remember reading it somewhere a while back and being not particularly surprised, also Googled it just now and found this- https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/age-difference-between-spouses-impacts-likelihood-of-divorce-34215. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/21 12:03 PM |
| 1 | What do you define as a good marriage, and why do you believe many women are in miserable marriages?Obviously the exact conditions of what makes a good marriage, and what makes a bad marriage vary massively from person to person, but for broader definitions I would say a good marriage is one in which both parties feel (at least mostly) cared for, listened to, happy to be around each other and in agreement about the way their life together is going. A bad marriage would be one where only one, or neither party involved feels this way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 11:55 AM |
| 11 | Practical difficulties when it comes to large age gapsAll I'm going to say is, there are some reasons why marriages with huge age gaps are a lot more likely to end in divorce than those without. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 11:48 AM |
| 18 | Men complaining about women who complain about age gaps are just shifting the blame.They probably think older women are trying to brainwash us 20+ girls into not wanting to date 40+ men, when in reality most of us just don't fancy/connect with them lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/21 11:45 AM |
| 0 | Blue Pillers, what is it you actually believe, and how does is contradict trp?I don't believe in the core concept of all men being either "alpha" or "beta", or that all straight men and women essentially want the same things, and are into pretty much the same type of people. I believe that people's personalities, preferences, and sexualities are as a whole a lot more complicated, and varied than the red pill makes them out to be. I also don't believe that women are overall more privileged than men either, because that as a standpoint is just completely divorced from reali… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/21 12:44 PM |
| 1 | I don’t think FDS is that bad and I don’t understand why they get so much hateDid you just use the terms "hamstering" and "landwhales" in a serious context? Lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/21 04:48 PM |
| 2 | Q4W - How does it feel that everything about you is sexualised?For me, it honestly depends on the context and specifics of the situation. Sometimes it's attractive, a lot of times annoying, other times it's disgusting, and then once in a while it's frightening- but overall it's always pretty weird to me. Like I'm hardly asexual myself- I get physically attracted to guys all the time, and I'd say I have a fairly high sex drive too. But the levels of obsession many men have with sexualising and fantasising about women is just strange to me. I am convinced tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 05:20 PM |
| 5 | Q4W - How does it feel that everything about you is sexualised?Story of my life sis! Nothing except some very big/loose hoodies/sweatshirts, a zipped up coat, or some very long, loose skirts can actually hide my shape lol. Anything temperature over 10-15 degrees means I'm going to have to deal with getting stared at and quite possibly cat called. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/07/21 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Male sexuality as destructiveNot true, most all round average-ish women date/marry/have casual sex with all round average-ish men. Most men who end up becoming "I" words tend to be quite below average in more than one way, think women closer to their own league are disgusting, and therefore end up with no options. It's not because conventionally below average looking men aren't "allowed" to have a sexuality, let alone because genuinely AVERAGE men aren't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 10:54 AM |
| 1 | Male sexuality as destructiveWith all due respect, I didn't see you specifying that this only applies to a tiny minority of women in the original comment. Also I'm well aware that asexual people exist, that's why used the term "standard STRAIGHT female experience". Asexuals aren't straight, and asexuality isn't particularly common either. Therefor being asexual, or hating all sex for any other reason (trauma from past abuse, etc.) should not be normalised as a standard part of a straight woman's life, because it isn't. Noth… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/21 10:48 AM |
| 0 | Male sexuality as destructiveIt relates directly to what you said earlier. And what is it you want addressed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 10:06 PM |
| 0 | Male sexuality as destructiveSo which part of what I said is it that you're disagreeing with? That men do it too, or that there's nothing wrong with it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 04:01 PM |
| 3 | Male sexuality as destructiveMy point is that no one enjoys being lusted after by people they are repulsed by, men or women. It's not a proof of women's evil brain hamsters or whatever lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 03:24 PM |
| 2 | Male sexuality as destructiveLol "different sexes different standards" isn't "truth" it's just one broader perspective on life, albeit one that gets disproved time and time again, but many still cling to it for personal benefit (real or perceived) and/or religiously/culturally passed down attitudes. And what I said is not irrelevant, it's just proof that most people don't really enjoy hearing about the sexualities of people they are personally repulsed by. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 03:09 PM |
| 4 | Male sexuality as destructiveAgree. It's all made up to make men feel more powerful, and brainwash us into not having sex outside marriage in the old days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 03:03 PM |
| 6 | Male sexuality as destructiveOh please, as if most men would view the sexuality of a woman they find extremely unattractive/repulsive to look at in the same way they would a woman they found very pretty/sexy. Stop holding us to these weird standards that you yourselves could never live up to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 02:58 PM |
| 8 | Male sexuality as destructiveI greatly appreciate the point OP is making but do not agree with this one bit. Plenty of women love or at least like sex with the right person/at the right time. Those who hate it regardless of who they're having it with, when they're doing it, and what they're actually doing clearly either have issues with their sexuality, or psychological related issues of some sort. These types of feelings should not be normalised as a part of the standard straight female experience, because they really aren… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 02:34 PM |
| 3 | Male sexuality as destructiveThis post is so perfect! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/06/21 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Do women actually sexually assault & harass men as much as men to women?Exactly! Like do these people ever leave their houses lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 04:17 PM |
| 1 | What are Your Physical Deal Breakers in Guys ?I mean tbh I do have a "type" looks wise, and I don't usually pay much attention to guys who fall outside that . But that aside, absolute deal breakers physically would be: . Bad B.O. . Greasy looking hair . Dirty nails . Dirty looking teeth . A significant amount of acne . Overly dry skin/hair . Obesity . Tiny, pointed hands/feet . Too many moles | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 12:53 PM |
| 2 | Do women actually sexually assault & harass men as much as men to women?No way, I think you'd have to be seriously deluded to actually believe that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 12:43 PM |
| 1 | How candid are discussions that women have with each other about their personal lives ?Depends on the type of person you are and how close you are to the woman you're talking to. For most of us I think it can get pretty candid with sisters or very close friends, but not so much with friends who aren't all that close/acquaintances. But then of course outside of that there are the oversharing types who tell everyone everything, and the very private ones who don't like discussing anything with anyone. Basically to sum it up, it varies quite a lot from woman to woman, but most are pre… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 12:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4W Which one do you experience first: sexual attraction or romantic attraction?Sexual, I think for romantic/emotional attraction you would need to get to know the person more | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/21 11:59 AM |
| 2 | What is the long-term goal of FDS? (Speculate)It is definitely a scam. There are simply too many men who have mixtures of alpha and beta characteristics (and therefore don't fit neatly into either box) for the rule to actually be applicable. In fact I'd say there are more men like that than men who are typically alpha or beta. And no I don't. You can't tell me what I do and don't find attractive. Also the criminals, bullies, etc. you see having a lot of success with women usually do so because they have other desirable traits, because they … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 02:37 PM |
| 2 | What is the long-term goal of FDS? (Speculate)The whole alpha/beta thing is a scam to begin with, so the first part is clearly not true. And no, I don't find abusive behaviour attractive, neither do most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:33 PM |
| 1 | Prostitution - Nordic modelYeah the post history confirms it tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:29 PM |
| 1 | Prostitution - Nordic modelI can see why people feel legalising would make things better, but I have seen things from legit sources suggesting the exact opposite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/21 01:29 PM |
| 5 | Prostitution - Nordic modelJust because you weren't forced, that doesn't mean most women in what used to be your occupation are not. You were actually in a tiny minority as someone who wasn't trafficked, blackmailed, forced by an abusive partner/family member, taken advantage of due to mental illness/addictions, or groomed into prostitution- but rather chose to enter into it fully of your own free will. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:43 PM |
| 4 | Prostitution - Nordic modelDecriminalising the prostitutes themselves makes sure people who are being victimised in that way won't be suffering in silence fearing that they'll be punished for speaking up, so that's taken care of. Also what you're saying about the business becoming safer due to legalisation is true in theory, but rarely happens in practice. For example, the sex industry in the Netherlands has allegedly got a lot more unsafe and developed more links to foreign gangs since prostitution was legalised there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:37 PM |
| 4 | Prostitution - Nordic modelDid you just say no one is being forced into prostitution, and that being trafficked/blackmailed into it is a female sex fantasy? All I'm going to say is please do at least a minimal amount of research on this subject before coming here to make all these strange blanket statements about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:32 PM |
| 2 | What is the long-term goal of FDS? (Speculate)If our partner is physically (and personality wise) attractive to us from the beginning, and was our idea of good in bed with a libido/sexual tastes that pretty much match our own, why would we stop being attracted to them? I could only see that happening if he turned abusive, or did something else that's really terrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 06:17 PM |
| 1 | What is the long-term goal of FDS? (Speculate)Yeah pick-meishas are like magnets to LVMs/NVMs, and since there are plenty of the aforementioned who specifically seek out women who are easy to use and abuse, it's unlikely that these types of women would ever find a HVM the way modern dating works, unless of course they decide to change the way they think (in which case they wouldn't even be a pick-meisha anymore anyway). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 05:58 PM |
| 2 | What is the long-term goal of FDS? (Speculate)Couldn't put it any better than this tbh. And you're 100% right that coming on PPD and seeing some of the things certain guys here say further confirms FDS's core ideas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 05:46 PM |
| 10 | Prostitution - Nordic modelIt's a law that's there to help prevent prostitution, whilst taking care not to criminalise people forced into the trade. Nobody is saying only men should be punished, in fact if a woman were to be paying a male prostitute for sex, she would be the one getting punished, not him. The logic is that while plenty of people are trafficked, forced and blackmailed into prostitution, the same cannot be said for anyone paying for sex. So this law is definitely not a "gender war", it's simply there to cra… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/21 05:34 PM |
| 0 | What do you believe are things that men get wrong about dating and about women?I think height on it's own wouldn't be a major issue for any guy above 5"4-5"5 or so tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 10:27 PM |
| 0 | What do you believe are things that men get wrong about dating and about women?I don't even know what you're trying to say with the height thing, or the SJW thing, so I'll leave that there. But as for your idea that prostitution is normalised among girls of my generation, HOLY SHIT are you wrong lmfao. There are a few SJW types, and a few girls here and there who fall out of that stereotype too who strongly advocate for it for whatever reasons, but (thankfully) we are a very, very far away from a day when your average 18-20 year old college/university student can sit and c… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 10:18 PM |
| – | What do you believe are things that men get wrong about dating and about women?1.) But height really doesn't matter that much though, unless a guy is like 5"3 or something, which is actually very unusually short for an adult man. No one is going to constantly get rejected because they're not 6"0. 2.) And I already addressed the fact that some of us do agree with parts of that kind of ideology, but the hardcore adherents who actually believe in concepts like manspreading are actually a very small minority. 3.) It is absolutely a tiny minority who do any type of sex work too… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 07:12 PM |
| 2 | Failure/success in finding a partner is dependent on understanding three unique thingsThis is a fantastic post, agree with every word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 05:49 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Popular girls definitely do get a lot more attention than unpopular ones, but then again that may often be more due to the factors that made them popular rather than just popularity in itself. Either way though, most guys' standards aren't actually that low. If a girl was the type who most would consider a 3 or 4, she isn't going to have loads of guys lining up to ask her out just because she's sane and healthy lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 05:48 PM |
| – | What do you believe are things that men get wrong about dating and about women?If this is about guys on this particular sub especially, then this is my list: . Height doesn't actually matter THAT much to most of us. . The vast majority of us aren't dating/sleeping with top tier "Chads". Those guys most often only sleep with/date top tier "Stacies". . The extreme far left SJW kind of feminists you see making really over the top statements on social media, or even irl don't represent the majority of Millennial - Gen Z women at all, or even a large minority of us. Like yes, s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Women, what is the extent to which height matters on a man?It honestly doesn't matter to most of us anywhere near as much as many men seem to think it does. For me personally, I think anything over 5"7 is a decent height, and I wouldn't mind going a little lower than that even if everything else was right with the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/21 04:30 PM |
| 1 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?Well yeah that was kind of exactly my point lol, most men in their 20s and 30s actually can't sustain a really good standard of living for a family on one salary for long. If some people are happy with being extra frugal just to have one parent be a SAHP, then good for them, but I personally just don't get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 05:58 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Huh? Who said anything about insane or unhealthy girls? Of course most guys usually wouldn't want anything to do with girls who fit into either of those boxes lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 05:40 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?This! The hypocrisy is the worst part of it all tbh. True traditionalists (who aren't just self-serving hypocrites) are a minority within these kind of groups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 05:38 PM |
| 3 | Women's argument that men want domestic slaves is nothing but strawman to justify their entitlementTHIS right here!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/21 10:37 AM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Couldn't agree with this more! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 02:13 PM |
| 2 | No, she’s not going to treat you like Chad, or any other man. The dynamic between you is unique, for good or badPreach! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 12:16 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yeah I think many of us are almost naturally (I say almost because it's really just a result of socialisation) more attracted to and compatible with people who present as/act "like our class". I don't think there's anything wrong with that either, in fact it's people who act like they can't be interested in people of their own class/educational level who are suspect imo lol. The ones saying they only like much richer/"classier" people are probably just gold diggers/delusionals, and the ones sayi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:41 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?But that's the thing, not everyone sees those things as such excellent traits worth sacrificing better looks, more money, more social status or better compatibility over. I appreciate that you do prioritise those traits, but most guys just don't, and it's not even just fuckboys or top tiers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 11:27 AM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yeah I do think it's more to do with my background, as well as my own personal outlook too tbh. Despite being someone who's going to university to get a degree myself, I would see a potential partner who doesn't have a degree/isn't working towards one, but has a stable job with good prospects, or is working towards getting that as a much higher scorer in the career/education department than someone who has done, or is working towards a degree that has minimal prospects. As for class, I do agree … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 10:49 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?This isn't Apex fallacy, because I'm not saying ALL guys exclusively pursue/sleep with/date/marry "top tier Stacies". I've always maintained that most people date/marry people around their own league when it comes to looks, social status, finances, etc. And of course I know that personality is actually very important to the vast majority of men when thinking in terms of a serious/long-term relationship, just like it is for most women in that situation. But personality being important usually mea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 10:38 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Np! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 09:23 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I appreciate that your standpoint. But the fact remains that the guys who are themselves very conventionally good looking/have a high social status/are very high achieving/wealthy (and therefore tend to have maximum options) are not choosing more like women like "Girl 1". Some of the behaviours "Girl 1" has may be seen in a positive light by many men, but when push comes to shove and they have to prioritise, they will put things like looks, sex appeal, social status, money and plenty of other th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 09:18 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I think a lot of views about relationships (usually extremely "traditional" ones) get wrongly attributed to biology for some reason on this sub. It's all a matter of personal preference tbh, and the reason why most people aren't choosing certain lifestyles anymore is because their benefits have severely diminished with the advancement of science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 09:06 AM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yeah it is very difficult to find people who are waiting till marriage these days tbh. Why not try some Christian dating sites, or meeting girls through church or other religious activities? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 09:00 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Though I agree that there definitely aren't as many girls similar to "Girl 1" in present day western society as there would have been in the past, I don't think that's the only reason why girls more similar to "Girl 2" are the ones most guys would pick. Even in a place like India, most men would go for their own counterparts of "Girl 2" over a woman more like "Girl 1". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:57 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Interesting, detailed, refreshing and brutally honest, love this answer haha. Also agree completely with the last few lines lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:48 AM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yeah, but this is assuming the rich girl isn't horrible haha. And idk, I think most people would prioritise wealth if push came to shove. Like many people would see a high earning small-business owner (even if they had no university education and came from a working class family) as better than an unemployed fine arts graduate from an upper middle class background (unless the latter had fair amount of inherited property, etc., but then again that's about money rather than class). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:43 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Fair enough! Also the bottom paragraph is great, I think everyone should be thinking like that tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:37 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?That was the idea haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:35 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I think many would ideally want a woman who looks like a "Stacy", and has the social skills/status of one ( and seems like the type who would be sexually confident/adventurous after getting together with them), but also displays many of the "feminine virtues" of someone like "Girl 1". Obviously that is extremely hard to find, so they usually have to get down to prioritising. And it's safe to say that these "feminine virtues" are not what the majority prioritise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:34 AM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yeah class/money/education is definitely pretty important for most people looking for serious relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:27 AM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?All so true, I swear your answers are always the best haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:22 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?This is a great answer tbh, and I agree with all of it completely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:20 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Fair enough haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:19 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Ok this has been interesting to read, but most men today do care about popularity and money/education in a potential partner, or at least one or the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:13 AM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Your expectations/preferences sound refreshingly realistic/reasonable haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:11 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Makes sense tbh, I agree with pretty much all of it. Though it's not just about conventional good looks. Good presentation, social success, and a good financial background are all things that raise a woman's SMV further, and most people value these things much higher than traditional "feminine virtues". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/21 08:09 AM |
| 1 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?If we're just in the talking/early dating stages, I don't care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 11:13 PM |
| 1 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?Actually waiting weeks, and becoming exclusive, or even boyfriend and girlfriend just for sex isn’t something I’d expect a 20+ guy to do. A guy who wants nothing beyond sex would most likely pull out if it became clear a girl won’t put out so soon, which is exactly what I want. Waiting till marriage is one big fat scam though, and pointless in this day and age unless someone is genuinely THAT religious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 10:03 PM |
| 1 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?So what would be a good strategy then? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 08:03 PM |
| 1 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?I never said a bunch of kids lol, just 2-3. And the man would inevitably have to care for both sets of parents to some extent if the woman is an only child, or doesn't have another brother/sister happily doing all the caretaking, or her parents are just extremely well settled (and she feels minimal guilt doing nothing for them lol). That isn't "a large slew of people" at all, (that would be 4 or more kids, which many "tard" people seem to think is ideal lol), it's just the average number of peop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 08:01 PM |
| 1 | The notion of « gold digging » is none sense.Woman here, and imo there is something seriously wrong with your relationship if you're wanting something "in return" for sex. It should be a mutually enjoyable activity, and if it's not then it's either time for some serious talks, or time to go (depending on the other specifics of the relationship.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 04:49 PM |
| 1 | The notion of « gold digging » is none sense.I don't agree with this at all. Women in many cultures traditionally prioritised wealth not because of nature, but because of nurture. It's simply something they had to do if they wanted a higher standard of living, since of much of history they were basically barred from all other avenues for realising their ambitions. The women you see today prioritising wealth above all else in their partners have often got their mindsets from older generations of women in their families, or they're just espe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 04:37 PM |
| 4 | Seems like men are wanting a woman with a low N count who will sleep with him on the second date...wait, what?Apparently we're not allowed to take things spontaneously and do what we feel like (the way many of them do) though. If the shortest time we've waited to have sex with a guy is three weeks, the that's it, we have to have sex with every next guy we meet within three weeks, or it's "unfair". Also we shouldn't raise our body count too high in the process of enacting this "fairness", or we'll become sluts no man will want to commit to, no matter how many positive qualities we have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 04:16 PM |
| 1 | What good is a woman withholding sex as a strategy if she's not withholding until marriage?So what's your point, that everyone should be having lots of casual sex with lots of different people? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 04:03 PM |
| 1 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?I never said they would? I was referring to a wife plus two-three kids plus helping out parents now and then. And that's fine haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 04:00 PM |
| 2 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?Most men in the early 20s - late 30s age range (the ages when most move in together/get married/start families) in the U.K. would be earning £20,000 - £50,000, with most of those who fall outside of that earning less than £20,000. And that study sounds interesting, what country is it from is I may ask? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/21 10:44 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?This is a really good answer. Like not only is it detailed and precise, but it's also refreshing and relatable to hear for me, because your reasons for marrying your wife sound like my reasons for choosing partners tbh. Like I'm more interested in their individual character, looks and to a much lesser extent their status/finances, and how compatible we'd be overall than their proximity to some outdated and irrelevant ideas of "masculine virtue". I think most men nowadays are similar, except when… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 01:08 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Most men do have some amount of options lol, the ones with minimal or NO options are actually a small minority. Also they absolutely do laugh at, or ignore "good girls" (or at best treat them in a kind but purely platonic way) if they are obese, un stylish, socially awkward, or simply considered un popular. Not claiming all "good girls" have the traits I described above, but if they do, being a "good girl" isn't going to make them super desirable or anything in the eyes of most men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:50 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I mean there are some exceptions (a few guys actually like the cropped blue hair, septum piercings and stuff like that lol), but this is true for the most part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:39 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Loool this is true. Financial status/education/class is a big factor in serious/long term stuff too though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:34 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yeah that makes sense tbh. I recognise that there are men out there who would choose "Girl 1", or someone similar to her over "Girl 2" or someone like her for various different reasons. It's just there would be more men who'd do the reverse. And I honestly don't know about the age thing, I've seen too many bafflingly immature older people among both men and women to think age will cure these guys lol. But time will tell I guess! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:34 PM |
| 3 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yep or bad looking according to conventional standards | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:24 PM |
| 3 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?This is true. The majority of young men tend to see "Stacies" as the "top tier" among young women, and a girl's overall desirability in a group of young men would most likely be judged in terms of her proximity to "Stacyness". Again this is not an attempt to just do a perfect 180 degrees flip of the "I" word narrative that all young women only want (and date/sleep with) top tier Chads. Of course there are some guys who actually prefer more homely, more traditional, or nerdier girls. And there ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:21 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I think what "feminine virtues" actually are is highly subjective tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:03 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?But that's my point. When push comes to shove, most men don't care about this stuff that much. They'll look at looks, social status, money, and then of course personality/compatibility. Unless she has really destroyed her reputation by sleeping with half her town or something, a girl who is conventionally pretty, popular and financially secure will have so many guys interested in her despite not having many of those "feminine virtues", whereas a girl who is considered plain, doesn't have much of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 12:02 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I agree with most of this tbh. The only things that 90% of guys would desire strongly are feminine appearance and prettiness (usually according to conventional standards, combined with some of their own preferences). Except I do think there are more guys who ideally want full time forever SAHMs/housewives than it often seems like (I'd say it's a sizeable minority even among Millennials/Gen Z). Also though the men's own personalities do play a role (of course a lot of nerdier/homebody type of guy… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 11:52 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Except that (what you described) is not the case for the majority of men either. Unless "Girl 2" was promiscuous to a point where it was highly unusual for his setting/culture, I don't think most men would be sleeping with her, then marrying "Girl 1". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Q4W: Do you actually worry about violence on the first few dates (with men)?I'm not supporting the idea of being insensitive/asking people this stuff as soon as they say they've been raped or sexually abused. But I do think a big factor in the lack of prosecutions is victims reporting the crime long after it happened, by which time vital evidence is impossible to collect. Of course I'm not blaming victims/survivors for their ordeal, but speaking up in time would probably be the best thing to do in that situation overall, and unfortunately not many do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/21 08:21 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?But "Girl 2" wouldn't necessarily start showing some new objectionable behaviour (I was thinking of stuff like being extremely mean/critical/argumentative/controlling, or cheating, or something like that, not just being her usual self she always was lol). Also just saying, people who are better looking to begin with are more likely to age better compared to average or below average people, especially if they pay more attention to their looks. So bear in mind "Girl 2" is most likely to look bette… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 03:57 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Many men nowadays don't, and even many of those that do don't really prioritise them. You are not alone at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 03:44 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?First of all, divorce rates have actually been falling for some time now. And 70% of divorces being initiated by women doesn't disprove the points I made earlier in any way at all either. As for that second paragraph, some of those statistics you used are highly debateable. And what do you mean "be like what men want"? As you can see from these comments right here lol, different men want different things. The only thing that almost all-(and even then it's an almost)- value highly are conventiona… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 03:43 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I agree with this personally. These are the things I'd value the most in a guy too (except I'd probably value sex appeal, and having features I'm personally attracted to over just pure looks lol). Coming back to my post though, I recognise that the premise isn't perfectly comprehensive in it's descriptions of the two girls. My aim was just to point out that most guys would likely prefer someone more like "Girl 2" over someone more like "Girl 1" unless there was something specifically objectionab… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 03:19 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Thank you, and good luck to you too! Pleasantly surprised to see a man equally pissed off by the type of shit you described though lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 03:07 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?This is so simple and refreshing to hear from a guy on here tbh. I think exactly the same about guys, except I would want him to be reasonably successful socially, and meet a certain threshold financially (ideally earning like £20,000 at least). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 03:04 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I mean you don't necessarily have to hate being around "Girl 2" (or do you?) and the likelihood of a really conservative, religious virgin being a freak in bed is very very low lol, but fair enough! Your preferences are your preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 03:00 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?A really nice detailed answer. I only (sort of) disagree with one thing you said though. I don't think "Girl 2" would necessarily get dumped for not being "serious relationship material", unless she were to display some sort of new objectionable behaviour after entering the relationship, or the guy was leaving her for someone else. And I seriously doubt that the "someone else" in that case would be much like "Girl 1". Everything else I agree with tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:44 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Thanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:41 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?It is a pretty rare way of thinking in the present day western context tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:40 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?That isn't the point at all. The point is that even if a woman like "Girl 1" was chaste, most guys would still choose "Girl 2". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 02:37 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?That is refreshing and wholesome to hear (and I hope that any girls on this sub who are quieter, and generally regarded as not so pretty/popular come across it to see that they don't necessarily have to change themselves to find love if they don't want to). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 01:13 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?THIS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 01:08 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yes it's true that women exactly like "Girl 1" are extremely uncommon in the west today (barring within some extremely religious communities). In fact this is something I've said several times on this sub, and I stand by it. But the point is that even if faced with a plain looking, not too popular, and poor woman who has many of "Girl 1's" feminine/virtuous qualities who was interested in them, most guys would probably choose a better looking, more socially successful and financially secure/succ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 01:04 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?The first two lines are pure gold tbh, and not in the sarcastic sense lol. It's not necessarily just a modern Western consumer culture thing though btw. Even in a comparatively more religious/traditional place like India, a lot of men would take a pretty, rich girl who's not a virgin any day, over a plainer, poorer girl who is. I think it's just a case of men who truly see these kind of "feminine virtues" as more important than looks, money, social status, etc. being a small minority who are sim… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 12:48 PM |
| 3 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Lmaooo shots fired | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Second one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?It's not just about virginity vs promiscuity. It's about what some say most men value, vs what most men actually value. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 12:20 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Not necessarily, who you find fun to be around is a matter of perspective tbh. But if you think a girl like that is automatically "un-fun", then it is what it is lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 11:58 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?When did I say the first girl isn't fun to be around? Clearly it's just your view that quieter, religious, or more traditionally feminine women aren't fun to be around lol. And I wasn't trying to repeat one of the "nice guy" vs "bad boy" or "alpha" vs "beta" arguments with the genders switched over here either lol. I recognise that there absolutely could be an extroverted or rich virgin. I was just pointing out how the idea that most men value virginity and other traditional virtues ever so much… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 11:35 AM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I'm not assuming lol, quite a few guys on this sub say they really value virginity very highly in a woman. And if you look through the comments under this very post you can see many saying the same right here. Also of course I know that most men would be happy to commit to a woman who isn't virgin, who is happy with otherwise (just as long as her body count isn't super high or something). That was the whole point of this post lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/21 11:21 AM |
| 5 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I said SOME, not all or even most lol. It is a fact that many of these characteristics (like an overly submissive/sacrificing nature, very little or no experience with sex/relationships and not many ambitions of her own for example) are favourites with abusers. Wanting these specific traits doesn't necessarily mean they are just looking for a kind person, because there are plenty of fairly nice/kind women who have a fair amount of sexual experience, have ambitions and aren't overly submissive. M… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 08:03 PM |
| 4 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Nah plenty of women without most of those qualities get married and have fairly happy marriages to boot. On the other hand plenty of women that do have many, or all of those qualities end up with terrible men forever, or forever single, or divorced. And I don't think most men of this generation (including the ones from more conservative cultures) would really be choosing plain, poor, socially unsuccessful "good girls" if higher SMV women who weren't totally horrible/batshit crazy were actually i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:49 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Louder and a little bitchy doesn't necessarily mean totally obnoxious imo lol, but if that's how you see it then I accept your perspective. And I guess it's refreshing to see you're not that bothered about the money haha, but surprising all the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:41 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Even though the hot one is also richer and great in bed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:37 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Wow that is surprising to hear considering how highly so many people value physical appearance, bedroom skills and money. But it sounds like you're pretty clear about your preferences, boundaries and deal breakers, which is a must for anyone if they want to get something good that lasts, or even just be happy single tbh. Good luck finding what you're after! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:36 PM |
| 13 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Ngl I think that's legit what some of these guys are after lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:25 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?I don't think partying is masculine or feminine tbh, and I personally don't think it makes much sense to ascribe either of those adjectives to it. I feel the terms masculine and feminine (as used in contexts like this one) are more to do with socialisation and individual preferences than anything really concrete. but that's a topic for another day haha. Anyway in my original post I was meaning to refer to traditional/conservative notions of femininity/virtue/"wife material" more than anything el… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:24 PM |
| 1 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?What's so hilarious about it? The hot, rich, popular one isn't supposed to be obnoxious, she'd just have a slightly sharper tongue, and higher expectations than the virtuous one. And would you seriously make that decision considering the hot one is also richer, and you could potentially be owning your own business, and inheriting properties due to her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:15 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Fair enough! I really don't think most guys would be passing up a prettier, richer, more socially successful woman for a plainer, poorer, less popular one (unless the former was a legit horrible person, or hugely incompatible in some way) though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 07:08 PM |
| 3 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yeah you and your friends sound like they'd be much better partners than the "barefoot breakfast bringing virgin" seekers haha. A relationship where both people are strongly attracted to one another, and more importantly than that, actually really enjoy each other's company and personalities is the type I feel works best, and the type I'd actually want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 06:28 PM |
| 4 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Of course. But some people (both men and women tbh) keep telling young women to prioritise being submissive, traditionally feminine, as modest/conservative/virginal as possible because that's what really attracts most men, when clearly it isn't. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 06:25 PM |
| 6 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Yep! The hypocrisy is what bothers me. I swear AF/BB is mostly just a projection of their own hypocrisy regarding this issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 06:18 PM |
| 2 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?Where did I go back and forth/make assumptions? And would you actually choose the "virtuous" girl for a long term relationship even though the second girl is prettier, has a better job, and a rich dad who could potentially pass on a fair amount of property, and his business to you if you ended up settling down with her? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 06:15 PM |
| 3 | How Much Do Most Men Today Really Care About Traditional "Feminine Virtues"?That doesn't answer the question at all, because the basic premise here is that both girls would be into them, so it would basically be their call. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 06:11 PM |
| 2 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.Exactly. The only thing anyone really has a right to expect in exchange for being nice/polite is that the other person is nice/polite back. Not social media handles, dates, or sex ffs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 02:28 PM |
| 2 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.Yeah and that's when you're genuinely nice- many of these complainers and "I" words clearly aren't even that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 02:21 PM |
| 1 | Being "nice" is an evolutionary component for social bonding. The problem with the "nice guy/girl" argument is that these people aren't attractive enough for their niceness to matter in a sexual/romantic context.This is the truth. This and the fact that these "nice" guys usually aim for girls who are well out of their league looks-wise and socially. "Nice" girl/"not like other girls" types don't actually expect guys out of their league to be interested in them to begin with (let alone feel entitled to them), because society and the media make it clear to them that these types of guys would not usually be interested in them, regardless of hoe "nice" (or actually nice) they are. These girls just direct th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 02:15 PM |
| 3 | Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.Do you mean me personally? If so I'd say it's to be honest, loyal, help contribute a significant amount financially, do half of the housework, cook most meals (because I like cooking), support him emotionally and try to help solve his problems, and keep him sexually satisfied un less it requires doing something I find absolutely repulsive (not a chore or "responsibility" as such for me though as I have a fairly high libido). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 01:58 PM |
| 2 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?I do agree with what you're saying in theory (we all have the right to have some amount of reasonable, balanced expectations from our partners, and vice versa). But tbh from what I've seen of life so far, relationships with very strongly defined "roles" within them are very, very conducive to resentments, dissatisfaction, and feelings of being hard done by, as compared to couples with more flexible roles. Like from my observations, a man who has to shoulder the entire financial responsibility of… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 01:01 PM |
| 1 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?I understand where you're coming from, but bear in mind that being stay at home parent typically involves a lot of different tasks, and it can be very physically demanding compared to a typical sit down job. I agree though that going exactly 50/50 on housework if she's a full time SAHM/housewife is a little much though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/06/21 12:34 PM |
| 22 | The nerdboy syndrome is just as toxic as the f*ckboyThis post is SO important. Everyone seriously needs to realise that staying loyal/having a low body count solely because no one will entertain you for affairs/casual sex has zero value. Guys like that are no better than the cheating fuckboys. A good man is one who stays loyal by choice, and because he truly cares about his partner. Not because no other woman (or no other woman he'd be attracted to at any rate) wants him. | /r/FemaleDatingStrategy | 09/06/21 11:37 AM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingHow? I don't think some random social media influencer is more powerful than Bill Gates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?That's obviously a different kind of situation. I think what's being referred to here is families where the mothers never (or barely ever) worked outside the house/for money throughout the children's growing years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:37 PM |
| 1 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?This is a very real thing. Most women in our family with housewife mothers generally underachieved compared to the ones with mothers who worked outside the house. After Googling, I realise there's quite a few studies to support this idea too, so it's clearly not even just our family haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:31 PM |
| 5 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?Preach! Too many relationships have been ruined by societies expectations. Couples should strive to prioritize what feels right for both of them (not their neighbour's cousin's aunty or strangers on the internet) and spare everyone the headache by splitting up if they are unable to agree on an arrangement they are both happy with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:23 PM |
| 3 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?Every thread on this topic further affirms my decision to never be a housewife/SAHM. And ironically it's the responses from the guys who claim they actually want a partner who'd fulfil that role which really do the trick every single time lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:17 PM |
| 7 | To those of you who support traditional roles in a relationship, would you date a woman who makes it clear that she's looking for a man with a good income so she can stay home?So I'm assuming you'd be ok with your wife setting "work expectations" for you too, right? Like how many promotions you should be getting, everything you should be buying for her, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:14 PM |
| 4 | Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.I agree! It's actually not really about money in itself tbh, it's about the effort, and what is being invested into the relationship. If a man prefers to show his love through things which aren't necessarily expensive, but require care and effort, there's nothing wrong with that imo. The problem, imo when there's minimal time, effort, care or money invested from their side beyond the basics, if even that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:07 PM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingI don't think just having a certain view about relationships would in itself give one person power over someone else with different views tbh. Power is gotten through wealth (the biggest factor imo), and also contacts, race, religion, caste, gender and sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 09:01 PM |
| 2 | Men get their nice guy ideas from high school movies and the anime harem genre.Feminist, FDS member to boot over here and I agree with you. To me, the idea that a man should be willing to pay for things, give gifts, etc. is just so that I know he thinks I'm worth the effort- not because I actually want to be fully provided for throughout the relationship! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 05:41 PM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingI don't personally like to shame people just for disagreeing with me, but we have to remember that judging/shaming those who disagree is something people on all sides of the religious/social/political spectrum do- not just liberals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 05:36 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingI don't see many people shaming anyone except hypocrites, racists, misogynists and homophobes tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 04:20 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingHow does a woman going to work outside the house make her the husband? make it make sense lol. And it doesn't always make more sense for the man to work outside the house full time and the woman to stay at home forever. A lot of couples are seriously unhappy in that arrangement, and both parties much prefer other alternatives. Also if a man is unsure of paternity he can just get a DNA test done, that is a much better way of putting an end to his doubts than just marrying a virgin lmao. Plus what… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 01:29 PM |
| 2 | How important is sexual intercourse to a human's well-being?I don't think sex is really a necessity for anyone. It's perfectly possible to live a happy, fulfilling life without it tbh. Another matter that most people WANT it (to varying degrees) but no one actually NEEDS it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 01:19 PM |
| 4 | How important is sexual intercourse to a human's well-being?Bro I'm a Hindu, sex is not mandatory at all in our religion, neither was it ever seen that way in any point in our history. Being celibate and single by choice in order to dedicate your entire life to gaining (usually spiritual, but sometimes even other types of) knowledge was a well known thing throughout ancient and medieval history, both for men and women. There are still a few extremely religious people in India who do that even today. And although no one follows this today (and no one has … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 01:18 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingOf course men and women aren't identical (in fact no two humans are exactly identical in every way), but I don't think we are inherently that different from a psychological point of view. And what do you mean by women "becoming the husbands"? Also, define "globohomo" lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 01:02 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy, female subjugation & male sexlesness.Yep! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 12:55 PM |
| 2 | Hypergamy, female subjugation & male sexlesness.Yeah because we don't see men as commodities lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 12:53 PM |
| 5 | Hypergamy, female subjugation & male sexlesness.Because they think women are commodities to be "deserved". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 12:43 PM |
| 1 | What will be the next major event to shift the dating market in America?OnlyFans- if used on it's own- is an entirely different kettle of fish tbh. That particular route does not actually entail having any kind of physical contact with any of the "clients", (which is what most people find off-putting about traditional prostitution). It's another matter that most women on OF don't actually make much money from just posting pics/videos, and a sizeable chunk of them (especially those making their real names, faces, locations, etc. known on there) are probably legit pro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 12:27 PM |
| 1 | What will be the next major event to shift the dating market in America?Lmao exactly, that take is hilarious. Prostitution is legal in the U.K., but no woman (maybe except some in extreme poverty, or extremely unusual backgrounds otherwise) actually sees it as a viable career option. India has had legal prostitution for decades, but it's still heavily stigmatised in society. I'm not pro legalisation, but it's laughable to think that legalising prostitution will suddenly make it be viewed as a desirable path. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 12:12 PM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingIf women who aren't from wealthy backgrounds, and aren't high earners themselves are only willing to date men who come from rich families/earn a lot of money, that's pretty hypocritical too. There is no hypocrisy jail lmao, it's just that people with hypocritical standards are very unlikely to find and keep a happy, mutually fulfilling long term/serious relationship, regardless of the hypocrite's gender/sexuality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 11:59 AM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is coming1.) Why that specific example? 2.) Most women in paid employment aren't working in human resources lol. Much more likely they'd be doing one of the jobs I mentioned. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 11:53 AM |
| 2 | The future of the average manExactly! But apparently "average" man means someone who is often criticized for his looks, gets no positive attention from women unless those women are obese or really bad looking, has zero success on OLD, and has barely any friends who he could meet women through. I'm like bro all that indicates that these guys are clearly well below average atm in at least a few important ways! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 11:46 AM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingWas that actually the norm there? Like would average peasant men be marrying for the first time in their 30s? And yeah I know it was never the norm in western European cultures, or most Asian ones I know of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 11:43 AM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingYeah that’s normal even today, nothing weird about a 3-5 year age gap. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/06/21 07:49 AM |
| 2 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingHuh? Was men having their first marriage at 40+ with under 25 women the norm there in that time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:25 PM |
| 1 | The future of the average manI think by average, many of them mean what most would consider pretty bad looking/badly presented, and socially unsuccessful too. It's unfortunate these guys don't realise that that type of guy isn't actually average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:03 PM |
| 2 | The future of the average manSurrogacy is already very much a thing, yet so many men still want romantic relationships with women. A few are even claiming they are depressed solely because they have been unable to cultivate the above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 06:52 PM |
| 15 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingOh it is, but them actually marrying those women was always pretty rare, and there were usually some relatively unusual circumstances involved when such marriages did happen. Like no one would normally arrange a marriage between a healthy, decent looking 16 year old girl of a good reputation, and a 40 year old man, neither would a girl like that normally accept a proposal from a man of that type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:46 PM |
| 30 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingLol except it didn't. The vast majority of men in the past (whichever culture/religion/country you look at) weren't marrying past 25. Yes many were marrying 16 year old virgins, but only because they were 18 year old virgins themselves. A minority of (usually rich/powerful) older men did used to marry much younger (and usually much poorer) girls in the past, but this was by no means the norm in any culture I know of, and it would be even more abnormal that these younger girls would be those mens… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexNo, they do- lots of them do. There's plenty of toxic guys out there who'll readily snatch up any damaged, and subsequently over-adjusting/submissive woman who's attractive enough for their liking, and stay with her as long as the woman lets him use her, and he gets enjoyment out of doing so. The FDS rule is partly to stop guys using us for casual sex, but that doesn't have much to do with what we're discussing here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:28 PM |
| 1 | sexual/partner insecurityWow imagine referring to making a long term relationship work as "training your bitch". All I can say is, your exes are lucky girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:23 PM |
| 3 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingNailed it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:19 PM |
| 6 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingI didn't realise cooks, cleaners, childcare workers, teachers, nurses, carers, housewives, retail workers (among other extremely important and useful female dominated jobs) are unimportant to maintaining civilisation, but learn something new everyday I guess! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:16 PM |
| 0 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingBetter that than getting involved with non-Indian, or second/third generation Indian girls in the west and trying to impose these standards on them Something tells me these guys wouldn't be excellent partners to a first generation Indian girl either, though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:09 PM |
| 4 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingThe genuinely religious (however extreme) aren't even the worst of it in this issue tbh. It's the hypocrites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:03 PM |
| 1 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingLmao literally. And imagine thinking the type of women who are becoming mail-order brides for men from entirely different cultures and religions in return for money would be pure, traditionally conservative virgins. More likely most are former (or even current) you-know-whats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 04:01 PM |
| 6 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingLol sorry to break it to you but mail order brides and such like are very unlikely to be the "pure" virgins you dream of them being. Legit super traditional/religious/virginal women in these countries rarely be up for marrying men from such vastly different countries/cultures/religions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:55 PM |
| 41 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingLol exactly. The idea many of these guys have of fucking around with various women for years, then eventually looking to settle down and start a family in their 40s or later with a much younger, pretty, innocent, low-maintenance, "un touched" girl is impossible in the modern western world. Several men who tried that shit, failed miserably and are now bitter as hell are scattered all over the red pill "community" lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:51 PM |
| 6 | No hymen, no diamond: The sexual counterrevolution is comingHappy for the girl, she seems to be doing this fully out of her own choice, which is exactly how it should be. But that Narayan and his friends better be virgins themselves, or they're nothing but a bunch of pathetic hypocrites. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:40 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBro wtf lol. Looks like you don't even know the answer to that question yourself, so maybe I expected too much hoping that I might get to know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:35 PM |
| 2 | sexual/partner insecurityThat's fine, good for you. Just keep that in mind if you want to have a better chance of making the next one be a long and happy one. Also the whole alpha/beta/gamma thing is a massive sham lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:30 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexSources? I feel like that type are actually much more likely to land in toxic/abusive relationships and stay in them for years than bounce from man to man to the point of being extremely promiscuous by most present day/western standards. Not that the latter doesn't happen with damaged women, but the former is just a lot more likely, especially when there's no addictions, prostitution or prior sexual abuse in the picture. Also please don't tell me the view you just expressed is because you believ… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:28 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYeah I totally agree that being introverted doesn't always mean being inept or awkward (most introverts I've met are fine, they're just not that loud/chatty as a whole). And there are some extroverts I know who struggle to make and keep friends, and are almost unanimously regarded as inept/awkward/weirdos of various types by those who know them. So it's not like extrovert automatically means super socially skilled and well liked, while introvert means inept and being disliked by most people, or … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 03:00 PM |
| 1 | sexual/partner insecurityI agree that any good relationship will be mostly organic. Nothing in it will feel forced or like a punishment. But an organic relationship with someone who genuinely really likes you doesn't have to mean she puts out super fast. I can't believe I'm having to type this out, but the strength of a woman's feelings for you shouldn't be measured by how fast she does or doesn't put out. Look at her overall behaviour towards you, that's what really tells you how she feels. "Nexting" women for not havi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 02:54 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexAre you saying women who have lots of sex with lots of different people, don't actually enjoy sex much? That literally makes no sense. Unless there are prior addictions/mental health issues involved, or the woman is a prostitute (which I suspect are the circumstances behind the results of the study you mentioned), I can't see any reason why people who don't like sex, (or having lots of it with different people at any rate)- would go and (willingly) do exactly that. Also mental health issues does… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 02:38 PM |
| 1 | Most people, men and women, are better off if women make men wait for sex .Yeah same here. Not everyone who has casual sex is necessarily a bad person overall, that would be a pretty juvenile and silly take imo. But I'm still not into it or supportive of it at all. And on a side note I actually would much prefer doing it with a man I'm attracted to than by myself any day, but again being against casual sex (and not a hypocrite) means that's just something I have to deal with, while I'm single at least lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYou don't necessarily need to sleep with other people, but I would say you should ideally be sleeping with each other or at least discussing sex extensively once you're official, because marrying without sleeping together first, or discussing sex much is a recipe for disaster. Having very different libidos, sexual tastes, and levels of skill can lead to some serious issues in a relationship. And what studies are those? Pretty sure having more consensual, enjoyable sexual experiences makes people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 12:46 PM |
| 0 | Most people, men and women, are better off if women make men wait for sex .This is also true, but I do think a lot people would benefit by waiting a little longer to have sex, and I think many people, and 70% of women even in the western world of the present day see this (hence most people actually aren't going around with sky high body counts). Meaningless casual sex with multiple people is usually a waste of time, and doesn't really offer anything besides a limited amount of short-term physical pleasure/ego boosting, peppered with a bunch of terrible risks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Most people, men and women, are better off if women make men wait for sex .This is completely true tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 10:59 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYou don't necessarily NEED to "sleep around" (whatever that means, since it's actually one of those very, very loose terms that means vastly different things to different people across cultures, ideologies, generations, etc.). But experience definitely helps people get more comfortable in their own skin, know their own bodies better, better predict what would please their partner, and be more creative/open minded in the bedroom too. And there are no studies proving virgins, or people with very l… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 10:46 AM |
| 1 | Does anyone else feel bad when women say the male body is unattractive?Women who are saying male bodies- (not just specific men’s bodies) but male bodies IN GENERAL are ugly/unattractive are either just joking, or they definitely aren’t attracted to men lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:53 AM |
| 1 | New Data from the Telegraph indicate that levels of sexlessness among young men are still steadily increasing, just 34% of male University students report being sexually active while studying at University and 43% report never having had sex.Funny how the same people who’ll mistrust 80% of statistics regarding this issue (that pretty much categorically disprove their theories), will cling desperately to the 20% that give said theories some ground to stand on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:44 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexMost promiscuous people have had long term relationships, as well as shorter flings. Many have long-term affairs/fuckbuddies too. I don't think anyone's (except some prostitutes') body count is made up entirely of one night stands with different people. Though I do agree that many people who have had a lot of practice with one or very few people can be really good too, and a few are just naturally "gifted". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:29 AM |
| 4 | sexual/partner insecurityMaybe he is just neurotic by nature, but I do think certain ideologies combined with porn do make men a little too sex focused in general. Like the fact that there is so much more to relationships (and life in general) than just sex has become alien to many of these guys, and I strongly feel many of them wouldn't be thinking that way if it weren't for the influences I mentioned earlier. Being a bit obsessed/neurotic about work is actually a huge plus, because people like that almost always succe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 09:18 AM |
| 1 | Who here is generally happy with their life?I'm actually alright with mine! Yes there are some issues, but I recognise I'm actually pretty fortunate overall. And anyway working to sort out your issues (and others') in a constructive, productive and morally right way as far as possible is what life is actually all about. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 08:41 AM |
| 4 | sexual/partner insecurityExactly! This is what too much porn and interaction with "I" words/pill guys does to impressionable people. They start thinking all women are constantly having casual sex with various different "Chads", and that romantic relationships are all about "getting" sex with as little effort as possible. Both are totally wrong notions that set people up to fail at dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 08:37 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut the multiple casual sex partners people are likely to be better in bed. This doesn't mean they are going to be better in a long- term relationship as a whole, but it is what it is. More interest/practice usually means you get better at any skill, meaning people who don't have high libidos, or very little experience aren't likely to be fantastic in bed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:52 AM |
| 3 | sexual/partner insecurityThis!! Best comment here imo. Also the number of women having casual sex in the first place is hugely overestimated by many men here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:39 AM |
| 4 | sexual/partner insecurityBut have you forgotten? Us women aren't supposed to have preferences, or expectations of our own. Men are allowed to judge us and assess our value, but we aren't allowed to do the same (unless of course we want to be mean, high maintenance BITCHES). Not to mention most women don't even have access to "top 20%" looking Chads anyway lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:37 AM |
| 4 | sexual/partner insecurityYes! The main things we should be paying attention to in potentials imo is that there is a strong mutual attraction, we actually enjoy spending time with each other, and we can both see what you consider to be a good future with each other. Not whether or not one guy back in 2014 may have "got" sex "from" them for less effort. Because this attitude suggests you don't actually like the girl as a person, or enjoy her company much. And a relationship where even one of the parties feels that way is … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:28 AM |
| 7 | sexual/partner insecurityBut the thing is, OP isn't even having these thoughts about a woman who he's already emotionally invested in to some extent (not that that would be a good situation, because the tone of these thoughts questions the extent and nature of the emotional attachment itself). He says just starts thinking about these things every time he sees a woman he finds attractive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:18 AM |
| 2 | sexual/partner insecurityThis! Spot on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:14 AM |
| 1 | sexual/partner insecurityMaybe accept that she's an adult human with a sexuality, and that sexuality most likely means she has had sex with a few people in the past (just like you), and enjoy getting to know her instead of thinking of that process as "jumping through hoops"? Imagine how stupid you would (rightly) think a woman sounds if she says she keeps thinking of the women who have slept wit her potential partner for "less effort" than she is putting in. The idea is that you actually enjoy the getting to know each o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 07:02 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexSomeone who’s worked more different jobs may be unstable for sure, but they are likely to know more about different work environments, or even different types of jobs. A young person who’s had a couple of part time jobs is actually often a much better worker than some sheltered individual who never works until they graduate uni and get a full time job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/21 06:37 AM |
| 1 | With most large age-gap relationships, the woman is the predator and the man is the preyThanks! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 10:31 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismThe earnings don't matter. If both partners are working full time jobs then housework has to be divided at least roughly equally. And I personally wouldn't care if my future husband earned a little less than me either, I'd much rather a man who earned less but was happy for me to carry on working outside the house, and helped out sufficiently with chores than a higher earning man who wanted me to drop everything and become a housewife. The truth is neither the majority of women, nor the majority… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 10:30 PM |
| 2 | Great sex is best for women but sex on average is better for menThis is all very true tbh. There is definitely a notion that really loving sex is not for women as such. It’s supposed to be all about loving/doing your duty towards the man you’re doing it with, and doing it “for him” mostly out of love/duty rather than because you actually enjoy it. The act itself is promoted as something that’s supposed to be at least somewhat dirty/degrading (but only for the woman), which never made any sense to me, because how can something mutually beneficial/pleasurable … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 09:59 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut people with more experience are logically likely to be better at literally any given thing. That's common knowledge, and it doesn't magically become untrue when it comes to sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Great sex is best for women but sex on average is better for menSad but true for a lot of women. Like so many of them go through life without ever having an orgasm, or just having like handful of them whilst masturbating in the bath once in two years or something. I do think the social shaming surrounding female sexuality in general has a big hand in this. Yes women on average do have lower libidos than men, and a few women would naturally have very low sex drives, and minimal interest in sex. But the way there's this strangely large minority of (supposedly?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 07:05 PM |
| 1 | From an evolutionary perspective, do most adult women (20+) like beard or clean shaven?It depends on the man and what suits him individually tbh. Many men do look way better with a well shaped beard though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 06:51 PM |
| 1 | With most large age-gap relationships, the woman is the predator and the man is the preyThe women in these situations are always more likely to be abused, but the men are somehow the victims. Typical lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 06:44 PM |
| 2 | With most large age-gap relationships, the woman is the predator and the man is the preyBlunt but true. Most of these older men constantly pursuing much younger women are actually widowers/divorcees, or sadly married men. These guys actually have settled down once (or possibly more than that) already, so basically the whole of OP's argument (that the younger women are actually the ones with all the experience) is moot in these situations, which actually make up the majority of the older man - younger woman pursuits/relationships. Even the minority who actually haven't been married … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 06:41 PM |
| 2 | Why do men who are frequent consumers of porn and also who judge porn content creators poorly, get offended when others judge them poorly for partaking in that industry?So glad you made this post! And this x1000 for the ones that actually have sex with prostitutes again and again but think that they're still such pure/holy/morally upright men, who deserve nothing but similarly pure/holy/morally upright women, and regularly judge/slut-shame women who they feel deviate from that norm. Just lmfao at their hypocrisy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexWhy aren't group outings, bars, clubs, parties or hobbies good places to meet women? There are likely to be women of all different levels (looks wise) in all of these places as well, so although a below average looking man may not have all the women present fawning over him, he would normally have some options. Also how can you miss the gigantic contradiction in saying that most of the types of guys you're talking about would be extremely introverted (to the point of never socialising and being … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 06:09 PM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI wasn't arguing, I was asking a question. What do you personally define as a satisfying sex life? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 05:45 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?Trafficking is pretty bad in the U.K. too (where it's legal), and far worse in India (where it's also legal). I've heard things saying trafficking got worse in the Netherlands after sex work was officially legalised too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 05:44 PM |
| 2 | Men here are getting their ideas of female nature from porn and porn-related things.Yep! Porn stuff and projections galore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 05:40 PM |
| 3 | Why do men react so shrilly to “OnlyFans” but don’t seem to have an issue with porn, strip clubs, sex phone operators, cam girls on porn sites...?First of all, having actual sexual contact with another person can never, under any circumstance be described as simply "buying a product" imo. And even when it does come down to legit products (like clothes, books, movies, music, etc.), what someone chooses to spend money on and do for entertainment does say something about them. It is foolish and unfair to judge people harshly for liking one particular movie or one particular style of garment for example, but it is important to be able to noti… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 03:27 PM |
| 3 | Why do men react so shrilly to “OnlyFans” but don’t seem to have an issue with porn, strip clubs, sex phone operators, cam girls on porn sites...?Lmfao literally. They will argue till they go blue in the face arguing that sex is a need on par with food and water. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 03:01 PM |
| 3 | Why do men react so shrilly to “OnlyFans” but don’t seem to have an issue with porn, strip clubs, sex phone operators, cam girls on porn sites...?Bingo! I think we've found a winner here! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 02:57 PM |
| 4 | Why do men react so shrilly to “OnlyFans” but don’t seem to have an issue with porn, strip clubs, sex phone operators, cam girls on porn sites...?If women in the sex industry aren't suitable for normal family lives, what makes the men who pay them such "husband material"? Surely we should ban that industry all together so that so many people don't get corrupted by it, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 02:55 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?You think the majority of men spending money on OnlyFans are insane, or children pretending to be men? Then in that case surely a site on which most of the people are either essentially forced into being there (the women), or insane people/children (the men) should be banned? And yes I don't approve of sweatshops either, and I'd prefer if the U.K. put greater pressure on countries that use such practices to change. But for better or for worse, we can't control everything that goes on in other co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 02:42 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismExactly! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 02:26 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?Because, (like I said earlier) prostitutes can be, and most often are essentially forced into the trade. But nobody paying for prostitutes is forced into doing so. I don't think sex or sexual relationships are a need. And anyway pretty much all legitimate needs like food, shelter, and healthcare are capitalised upon, so why not a want like sex, or sexy pictures/videos? I'm not a supporter of prostitution at all (in any form), but it's ridiculous to say men (assuming these men are sane adults) sp… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 02:18 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismYep. Lack of consequences is the biggest incentive for any kind of crime/abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 02:08 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?I think pimping, as well as paying for sex are what should be an offence. That way victims/survivors are protected, but prostitution as a whole is shut down. Yes I agree that going to a prostitute makes a lot more sense than paying for OnlyFans and things of that type. But surely there's a lot more emotions involved when they are actually having sex with these women as opposed to looking at photos/videos of them? Also how are these guys getting conned if they are getting whatever it is they chos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 12:54 PM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?Most countries with legal prostitution have way more trafficking than those that don't. Also you can keep women safe by decriminalising prostitutes themselves, but making it illegal to pay for sex. Plenty of women are forced into prostitution, but no one on Earth is forced into paying for a prostitute, so there's that problem solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 12:47 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismAmerica has no enforced conscription. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 12:44 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismWell that way most western women in the past (and many women around he world even today) didn't have the choice of getting an education, or working outside the home after marriage, or making her own reproductive choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 12:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismAll facts no chill | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 12:32 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismLmao exactly, most men love sex and make no secret of it around other men, and nowadays some don't mind discussing it even around women they aren't dating or in relationships with. Nobody is saying male sexuality is shameful, unless by "male sexuality" OP means sexual harassment or rape. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 12:16 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismLol most democracies actually don't do any form of conscription anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 12:11 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismI wouldn't say most men (in any culture or time period) were ever prone to being frequently/brutally violent with women or children, and most definitely not ones they are related or emotionally attached to. But the way in which men were given so much power over the women in their families definitely gave the large minority of shitty men a lot of leeway to do as they wished with minimal consequences for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 11:57 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men are still expected to honor societal contracts while women are taught full hedonismAnd what are these social contracts? Because last time I checked men don't really have to do most of the things they were expected to in the past either. How many are today would be happy to wait for sex till marriage, have said marriage with a girl they've courted for maybe 2-3 months at age 20 and fully financially support her and your 8 kids (because no contraception, remember) for the rest of your lives? Because that is what your average working class man in the U.K. or USA would have been d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 11:47 AM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut what would you personally define as a satisfying sex and relationship life? That is a highly subjective term that (aside from the basics of not being abused disrespected by a partner that absolutely no one wants) varies hugely from person to person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 11:34 AM |
| 2 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesMost women never had chaperones in professional situations, and that is proved by the fact that poorer women were sexually exploited by their wealthier and more powerful employers since time immemorial. And even for argument's sake some woman brought a long a chaperone to meet a creepy boss alone, couldn't the boss just ask the chaperone to wait outside or something? Professional, and familial/relationship/friendship situations are where women are raped the most. Date rape and even more than tha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 11:30 AM |
| 1 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesYep! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 11:10 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexSo you clearly aren't into the red pill "theories" at all then haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 11:09 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexWow that is surprising, I've never heard of a guy saying stuff like that within such a short time of meeting a woman (unless it's over the internet or under the influence lmao). Also a lot of guys would feel extremely patronised by a woman saying things like "keep trying", etc. after rejecting them (and understandably so). And if a simple "no", "I'm not interested" or walking away is going to cause a man to get angry and go after the woman, then it's his psychology that's the problem here. The w… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 10:58 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?I don't support legalising prostitution because most women in it are more than one out of drug addicts/alcoholics, mentally ill, blackmailed/forced/trafficked into the trade, and in dire financial need (like literally sleep hungry/let their families sleep hungry or get no medical treatment if they don't do it type of need). There are painfully few women who are sane, healthy, not living in terrible poverty and get into prostitution solely out of their own choice. And I think everyone would benef… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 10:53 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?So you strongly support prostitution, but think OnlyFans is exploiting mentally ill men? Make it make sense lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 10:44 AM |
| 2 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?Lol exactly. Everyone knows most prostitutes have severe addictions, mental illnesses, or are trafficked/blackmailed/forced into the trade. But somehow it’s the men who willingly choose to pay for them who are the victims here 💀. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 10:08 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?Yeah I don’t support prostitution but at least paying for sex (as opposed to vagina photos and twerking videos) actually makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?So you think prostitution should be banned? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 09:47 AM |
| 7 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?The phone sex is even more ridiculous, again why on earth would anyone pay good money to hear someone just talk about sex and make sexual noises over the phone lmfao. And people say men are the more logical gender 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 09:38 AM |
| 0 | Why are so many men giving money to OnlyFans women?I’ll never understand it! Like why would anyone (especially in today’s times with freely available porn on the internet) spend their hard earned money to look at photos of a woman’s boobs/ass/vagina, or little clips of her twerking or whatever?? It just makes zero sense to me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/06/21 09:36 AM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYep. Not to mention that due to lack of socialisation and too much porn, many are hugely overestimating the amount of sex women and conventionally good looking guys are having. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 11:21 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexMen rarely date too far down in terms of appearance, so there would be plenty of single women who are below average looking. I admit that finding someone you truly click with personality/beliefs/ambitions wise and making it work in the long term can be fairly tricky for many of us, but simply finding someone around our own league who is willing to be with us should not be that hard if you go to college/university and/or have a job, a social life and some amount of social media. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 11:19 AM |
| 4 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesHave you ever thought that the reason many act like that is because society is so quick to label them as bitches/sluts if they don't? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesLook at dictatorships and religious fundamentalist regimes. They are proof that just like most women, most men can be made to agree to pretty much anything if the consequences for disobeying are strong enough. I believe strongly in democracy, and don't support that style of governance at all, but it is what it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 10:57 AM |
| 0 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesI think most (except the totally drugged up/drunk or severely mentally ill ones, who aren't the majority) would care a lot about consequences though. More reporting, and stronger punishments would do a lot to reduce rapes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 10:45 AM |
| 5 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesThis! I don't understand why times/places where women would be seen as social outcasts for reporting rape are somehow seen as being better for women than the present day situation in the west. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 10:38 AM |
| 8 | Women yearn for the return of chaperonesNo offence, but I think this is a very simplistic, and largely inaccurate take on the issue of rape. Contrary to popular beliefs, the majority of rapes don't actually occur in date-like situations, or at parties. The majority of rape is actually committed by relatives, boyfriends, husbands, friends, partners/family members of friends, people they meet through education, neighbours, co-workers or bosses at work. Chaperones would do very little to sort out the problem, and the purity culture that … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 10:27 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThose guys typically cover it up better, or have plenty of positive traits that overshadow their bad character. However in the current era, even many of the assholes with better social skills and looks/presentation than most “I”s may struggle to keep a stable long term relationship, as women are putting up with less bullshit on average these days. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 09:21 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexHow is anyone here gaslighting? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 09:16 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI hope by most guys you mean most “I”s, because most men as a whole aren’t like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 09:14 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexSo what do you define as “making it”? Casual sex with multiple different women in a year? You do realise that that has NEVER been normal for the vast majority of men (I’m talking like the 90%) at any point in time, at any culture (if you discount prostitutes)? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 09:13 AM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThat post was so fucking weird, but I’m glad you posted it. Honestly I think us women need to look out for some of these types of guys who have the exact same mentality as most of the “I”s, but present themselves better and have better social skills, hence cover it up better, and have more success with dating/sex. That guy definitely seems like one of them. I completely agree with all of the rest of it regarding the causes of it. It’s the existing cultural sexism combined with warped expectation… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 09:06 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexExactly! The key is to be honest with them whilst not being horrible imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 08:56 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexWhat’s your point? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI don’t think these issues are necessarily a follow up from bad looks. More like bad presentation of yourself, and minimal effort being put into appearance (which can often result in what most would consider “bad looks”) are a follow up from the attitudes you described. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 08:54 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYeah it shocks me that some of the guys who make sexual comments to strangers, touch them without permission, etc. actually expect a positive response. Like wtf is wrong with them lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 08:38 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexExactly! And someone that doesn't have any friends who know women (or worse still, any friends at all) is clearly far from average socially. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 08:33 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLol what? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/21 06:33 AM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThat’s alright! Thanks for the support ❤️. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 10:19 PM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexDefinitely looks like it! When in reality the majority of guys most would consider good looking aren’t even living that kind of life. Like many of them don’t even want to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 10:16 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYep 😂 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 10:15 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBecause by the sound of it, you're a legit average looking guy with a decent personality and confidence. And guys like that normally wouldn't struggle much to get dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexSo what is your bar for being sexually successful/satisfied? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 07:17 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexWhat do you class as "struggling to get laid"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 07:16 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI presume the talk of fucking, etc. wouldn't start while she's still a stranger, not when both of you are fully in your senses at any rate lol. But yeah the ability the keep the conversation flowing in a reasonably enjoyable way, and getting it to go in the direction you want is so important. But seriously it's ridiculous to expect young women to talk to strangers who approach them they way you suggested. Like we their mothers or their teachers (and they our five year old sons/students) to thank… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 07:13 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having Sex100% agree with all of this! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYes! I remember seeing men wearing those t-shirts in my early childhood. And yeah girls and women who are obese, or are considered well below average average looking for some other reasons get so much shit over their appearance throughout their lives, it's actually so sad. I was never obese but between the ages of 9 and 13 I was a little chubby, had bad teeth (they were crooked and I had several extras), and even worse than that I had a noticeable moustache. I faced so many rude comments both fr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 06:59 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexIf a man who most would consider below average looking has an (at least seemingly) decent personality, he can find women who'd be interested in him close to his own league in terms of looks, social status, etc. Only exceptions would be guys who are actually deformed, or look it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 06:36 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexOk but none of this proves that women are en masse dating or even sleeping with men who are much better looking than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 05:26 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having Sex. https://www.onaverage.co.uk/sex-averages/average-age-to-lose-virginity- says the average age for a man in the U.K. is 18. . https://metro.co.uk/2018/05/06/one-eight-26-year-olds-virgins-millennials-scared-intimacy-says-new-research-7525253/- talks about a rise in late virginity, but even then the data found that only 12.5% of people studied were virgins at 26. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLooks alone can't completely "disqualify" someone from the dating market (unless they're legit deformed or something,). Guy who are just well below average by most definitions (being physically healthy and not deformed/deformed looking) and have decent social skills can just date around their own league in terms of looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 05:10 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYep this is true. Not to mention the main issue for most of us tends to be with men who approach in groups, follow you, make lewd comments/gestures, don't take no for an answer, touch inappropriately etc. Guys who engage in these behaviour are basically sexual harassers of various levels, and their behaviour is a world away from one man just politely approaching a woman to ask for her Instagram/Snapchat or something lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:14 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI bet most guys on here would not have seen that one coming lmao. But your experiment solidly confirms what I have found to be the reality throughout my life so far. Women who are considered to be below average by most have very different experiences with men/dating than those around average, and an astronomically different one to those girls most would call pretty. If anything, conventionally unattractive women get openly insulted and shamed for their looks a lot more than their male counterpar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:07 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI think they want to say we're all simultaneously dating Chads lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:52 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexAnd what are your sources/statistics for that? Most couples I know seem to be in roughly similar leagues when it comes to looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI'm not going to make this personal. But my view on this is that while looks and presentation do matter quite a lot, there are different types of social skills, and confidence that can affect a person's life in so many different ways. Although it is relatively rare, some people who are fairly confident speaking in public in an academic/professional setting do struggle in certain social situations. At the same time, there are quite a few people (I'd say many more than the former) who are fine in … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLmao 70% is a high estimate but there do seem to be a lot of guys like that here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:34 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexNo, that is not at all what I wrote. What I wrote is that being very below average looking according to conventional standards where you're from, presenting yourself poorly, having bad social skills etc. can make it very hard for someone to have success with the women. That is not the same as being a terrible person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:31 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYep! The desperate race to settle down early is gradually slowing down in general, though there are still quite a few people who subscribe to it (especially young women in poorer or less ambitious circles). But I would say yeah generally many more young people (across genders and sexualities) are preferring to stay single longer rather than end up in unhappy relationships, especially among the more middle class and university educated/ambitious circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:24 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI'm 20, so I'm well aware of what life for young people right now is like. Most guys around my age I know and know of have had at least a reasonable amount of success with girls. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:19 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThis is true tbh. Except many people (especially the majority of Gen Z and Millennials) do spend a lot of time online, it's just that they'd usually be spending it in different places to "I" words, and their type. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:12 AM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThat is true, but I don't think people are obligated to keep on being nice if these guys are being vile to them. Also overly sugar coating the truth (to the point where it's unrecognisable) isn't a good idea either, the first step to solving a problem is always accepting it in it's full form. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:05 AM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBecause it's clearly not an issue that's common with the "I" words. In fact most seem to have a strong, deep seated hatred for homeless people, or those barely scraping by on welfare/benefits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexIt’s not that men don’t have problems. It’s just that “I” word kind of problems aren’t as “average” as they think they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 08:13 AM |
| 5 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexAverage young men meet women at college/university/work, through friends, at parties/bars/clubs, through online dating and regular social media too. A man who doesn’t meet women through any of these mediums, or gets rejected by every girl who he approaches by these mediums for YEARS has already strayed far from the average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 08:09 AM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexNot really, because I don’t think many healthy men would face repeated rejections over several years like you’re describing if they don’t have at least two of the traits above to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 08:03 AM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThey don't. If anything they'd be more likely to want serious relationships with bad looking women with other assets like money, status, etc. Casual stuff tends to be all about looks/pleasure/ego boosts, so men will normally go for the most sexually appealing/best looking women they can get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:39 AM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut why would these top tier guys even want to hook up with those women? Hook ups are basically sex just for the sake of sex, and no one really does that with people "beneath their standard" in terms of looks when there are better looking people available. And a guy who is truly top tier in terms of looks would have no problem finding prettier girls who would be ready to be with him at any time lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:34 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexNo, most guys definitely do care about looks lol. The ones who go with girls most would consider bad looking are usually not even close to top tier themselves, and are therefore going for women around their own level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:28 AM |
| 7 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexNah I think my perspective on what's average roughly lines up with most people outside "I" word circles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:20 AM |
| 12 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexFalse rape accusations are extremely uncommon, and falsely accusing a stranger is like international news-worthy levels of uncommon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:16 AM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI agree completely with all this tbh, except the situation for women who most people would consider below average isn't great on OLD either. It's just that men are more likely to message first considering gender roles and all, but even then those women don't really get much, and it's a very different experience for them than their "prettier" counterparts. Legit average women are usually somewhere in the middle of both extremes. Same way most legit average men are not "Chads" or "I" words, but so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:08 AM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThat survey didn't say 30% of men had NEVER had sex lmao. And 20% is obviously not a majority, but it is a decent amount for a survey with so many options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/06/21 12:01 AM |
| -1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI agree that 20% is a minority, but it is actually a decent portion considering all the different ways a couple could potentially meet. Also the majority of couples meeting on OLD is literally proof that most people who put in a reasonable amount of time/effort do ok there, if not then who are all these couples lol? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLol but I'm referring to a set of men who themselves admit that they aren't virgins by choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:50 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexMen who claim they (really really) want sex but can't get it basically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:48 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexOk, so what is your idea of a decent sex life for a man? And just saying, frequent casual sex with multiple "plates" on a rotation was never a reality for most men- contrary to what many here strangely seem to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:46 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLoool not exactly, but I think we can all agree that many of these guys aren't as "average" as they like to claim they are. Not in terms of their positions, or their experiences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLmao literally | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:39 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThat's alright, I had been thinking this for a long time, but worried it may end up sounding mean. Then I realised most people here don't bother about stuff like that and just tell is how (they think) it is, so I thought why not haha. And yeah the thing of these guys trying to claim their experiences are representative of those of "average men" is both laughable and tragic at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:38 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexTrue, also people are getting pickier about relationships and settling down later on average (which isn't necessarily such a terrible thing imo). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:34 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBeing what most people would consider below average looking, or being socially unsuccessful doesn't necessarily mean someone is a terrible person. Though it doesn't necessarily mean they are a "nice guy" either lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:30 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThis is the truth! The "I" words can't realistically sort out their issues/problems without first accepting that they are not average issues/problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:25 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYeah like millions of years ago lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI don't think guys with decent social skills/ lives and standards that are realistic for their own position would land in that kind of position in the first place. That would usually take some sort of unusual/extreme circumstances for sure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:03 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThey are, but seem to have trouble accepting the truth, when doing that is the first step in actually sorting out their situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexOh yeah of course! If most average men had no chance on social media/OLD, there wouldn’t be so many couples meeting there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 10:30 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYep! Nothing average about being virgin that long (despite wanting to have sex). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 10:29 PM |
| 3 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLol except men tend to be the ones who generally want to put off moving in, marriage, having kids etc. for a longer time as compared to women. It's not just what women want, it's what significant proportions of people from both men and women want. And if you actually set out to find the details, I'm pretty sure it'll come out that men are the ones who are more into delaying moving in, engagement, marriage and having children as compared to women on average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:28 PM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThis is true tbh. Though as a Gen Z/Millenial cusper (2001 born), I know a handful of girls (and know of quite a few more) in my age and younger who have already had kids at 17-20. And before people start assuming most of these aren't living in poverty or anything either, their just in the working class - middle middle class range that the majority of the U.K. would actually fall into. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:22 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI think we're underestimating how many of the "I" guys social skills/lives are well below average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:17 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThis is 100% right tbh. Good social skills, and realistic standards (not ridiculously high compared to your own position, but not below ground level either) are key. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexHow? I'd say almost everything I said applies to any women who are "involuntarily" virgins above a certain age too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexWhat do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:09 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYeah neither have I. The two exceptions were two averageish looking men in our extended family back in India who had arranged marriages to obese and below average looking women. And even then the women were from significantly richer families than the men, so it's clear why they did it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 07:08 PM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexWhat do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 06:39 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI don't think being a late virgin is a huge problem in itself, but many men on this sub clearly do lmao. Also most men were never having constant sex with multiple different women, so I don't see what has changed so much for the average man, except that he may be putting off setting down for longer than many men in previous generations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 04:07 PM |
| -2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut that's still 20% of them in total? Which means although the numbers have decreased, plenty are still doing it. Also the fact that so many couples are now meeting through social media/OLD proves that those mediums aren't as hard to navigate for most men as "I" words and some others claim. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYou're probably underrating yourself, or overrating the guys. Good looking, socially successful guys get laughed at in their circles if they're seen with women most could consider below average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:56 PM |
| 7 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThis is a great comment. Social skills help massively, both for men and women, and doing things like working, volunteering, etc. to improve them is so important! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:54 PM |
| 8 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexLmfao literally. Or that the 20% of Chads fathered 80% of those kids | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:52 PM |
| 10 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexThat sounds about right, same as my experience too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:50 PM |
| 8 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexI think you are either rating your friends' looks too highly, or their wives'/girlfriends' looks too low. Because guys most people would consider good looking normally do not touch obese/ugly women with a barge pole, unless the women are well out of their league in other ways (money, etc.) or the guys have something seriously wrong with them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:50 PM |
| 0 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut averageish women don't really get approached by above average guys in the first place. They date/sleep with guys around their own league. Same goes for legit average guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:47 PM |
| 4 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexYeah being that late "involuntarily" definitely suggests being well below average in more than one way, unless they've had some sort of exceptional circumstances in their life. And are those statistics referring to 2020? Because Covid 19 would have definitely played a huge role in creating that outcome if that is so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:44 PM |
| 2 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut what I'm talking about is late virginity, not something having been in a 2 year relationship with a girl they met aged 17 at school/sixth form college, and struggling to find a girl they like (and therefore ending up sexless) for a short time after that. Also plenty of women are still dating guys from college/university/work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:40 PM |
| 1 | I can only see current trends acceleratingLiterally. Sexism, often combined with having an unfair mindset in general is the culprit when it comes to those standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:29 PM |
| 5 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexExactly! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:27 PM |
| -5 | Most Legitimately Average Men Don't Have Such A Huge Problem With Having SexBut statistics support this too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 03:26 PM |
| 1 | How exactly does career/wealth play into SMV?It makes them a more practical choice (which is important in it's own way) but it doesn't make anyone hotter or sexier. Nobody gets wet/hard over money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:37 PM |
| 2 | I can only see current trends acceleratingLmao I think your definition of "average" is pretty skewed. Most average guys do lose their virginities in that 16-23 kind of age range, it's a fact. The majority of the "I" words and their problems are not average in any way shape or form. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:23 PM |
| 0 | I can only see current trends acceleratingWhat about the statistics that show that most men have sex before 25? That in itself disproves the 80/20 theory. Also "low male standards" are usually only a thing for men who aren't too high up the totem pole themselves. Guys who are top 20% or even 30% mostly go nowhere near women who are closer to the bottom in terms of looks- ESPECIALLY not just for casual sex. If anything they'll approach those women for serious relationships eyeing their money, status or contacts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:20 PM |
| 3 | I can only see current trends acceleratingExactly!! Regular guys sleep with, date and marry regular women all the time. That actually sums up like 60-70% of relationships. Most men are not strikingly handsome, ripped, or rich, yet these same guys still manage to get attention from women and have sex. Everyone knows this deep down, but some guys keep pushing the bullshit 80 "I" words: 20 Chads theories because it helps them feel better about themselves, and avoid accountability for their situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:08 PM |
| 2 | Which is a better strategy to get a man, FDS or redpillwomen?Wow that splendida sub is great! Thanks for sharing it! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 02:02 PM |
| 2 | Which is a better strategy to get a man, FDS or redpillwomen?Lol you clearly don't go there much. I've seen plenty about how they FDS helped women find good men, and plenty about how it helped them leave bad ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 01:55 PM |
| 1 | Which is a better strategy to get a man, FDS or redpillwomen?FDS definitely. Like much of the relationship/life advice handed out by typically rose-tinted glasses kind of traditionalists from various cultures, a lot of the RPW rules and suggestions are very good in theory, and can work well if you are incredibly lucky (i.e. you find a very good man despite presenting like such a doormat). But the type of advice given by most women who subscribe to that kind of mindset when things go wrong in a relationship (he starts disrespecting you, cheating or even ac… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 01:47 PM |
| 0 | I can only see current trends acceleratingTwo major things this post gets wrong: 1.) Most men actually don't have that much of a problem finding women who are attractive to to them, and want to have sex with them. 2.) Most Chads/"top 20%" guys have absolutely no interest in dating or sleeping with women who are below their level in more than one out of looks, finances and social status. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 01:34 PM |
| 1 | People are allowed to have ridiculously high standards if they want to, even if it doesn't suit your own tastes.THIS. Thank you so much for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 12:02 PM |
| 1 | People are allowed to have ridiculously high standards if they want to, even if it doesn't suit your own tastes.I agree, but I also feel there's nothing wrong in calling out hypocritical standards, or simply informing people that the type of person they are looking for is unlikely to exist. The problem is that "I" words and red pillers on this sub often accuse women of having unreasonable/hypocritical standards, even if those standards are perfectly normal/reasonable, and it's plain to see that there are plenty of guys out there who meet them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 12:02 PM |
| 2 | Has this sub changed your views or interests in any way?This sub has shown me that: . Most men give even more importance to sex, and looks than I previously thought they did. It's not even just about their libidos- they just give a lot more importance to that side of a relationship than most women generally do. . A lot of individuals (both men and women and mostly people who identify as "red pill") have an overly simplistic view of dating, and people as a whole. Sweeping generalisations (many of which are blatantly inaccurate), and "one size fits all… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 11:35 AM |
| 2 | Porn distorts male desires the same way Romance content and Mass media distorts Female desiresI do agree with this to a large extent, but I think we have to remember that many of these girls being groomed into prostitution aren’t even adults. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/06/21 09:42 AM |
| 1 | Could this be the problem so many men struggle with women?Yeah I think most good men couldn't comprehend why people would behave like that, that is what separates you from those types of guys. Also I don't think most men are evil at all btw. It's more of a significant minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 02:46 PM |
| 1 | Women in their 30s have more options than RP men think.Lol how do those guys disprove what I said? Did those men have their first marriages well under 30? Because if not then they actually help prove me right lmao. Also it's really fucking hilarious how you think that men only aim high in life in order to get laid. That sounds like the thought pattern of someone who is way to obsessed with sex for their own good lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 11:00 AM |
| 1 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Np! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 10:55 AM |
| 1 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?That is impressive, so many people I know weren't able to get a 2:1 despite having zero responsibilities beyond their course lol. You really should be proud! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Women in their 30s have more options than RP men think.True tbh, though some very high achieving men (doctors, PhD holders, ect.) may well be single, never been married before and childless in their 30s despite having nothing really wrong with them sue to their high ambitions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 10:17 AM |
| 3 | Could this be the problem so many men struggle with women?This isn't true at all. If serious long term partners can beat and even kill their wives/girlfriends/partners in such big numbers, why is it so hard to imagine that many may not pay much attention their sexual pleasure? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 10:14 AM |
| 3 | Society acts like men need women more than vice versa but it’s actually the oppositeTo convince us to date incels I suppose lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 06:50 AM |
| 5 | Society acts like men need women more than vice versa but it’s actually the oppositeThe main difference is that women mostly had to be forced by law and society to NEED (as opposed to want) men in the form of husbands, but men seem to crave women like they need them despite being free to do anything for themselves (in the practical sense) that a wife or girlfriend could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/06/21 06:44 AM |
| 2 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Even then! Being a SAHM is a full time job in itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Women in their 30s have more options than RP men think.Makes sense tbh, class does make a difference to how you look and present yourself too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 08:40 PM |
| 1 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?I fuck with that last line on a spiritual level | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:38 PM |
| 2 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?It hasn't worked for everyone. Plenty of men would have been better suited to staying at home, while plenty of women would have been better suited to going out and making a career. Like u/NarniaFox said, giving people the freedom to choose without shaming/punishing them for it is the best way. And if people aren't choosing your way much when given the chance to do so, it means it probably isn't as good as you thought after all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Not to mention money doesn't discriminate between genders, a woman's money benefits her family just as much as a man's would. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Maybe because some guys have a creepy feeling no one would ever actually want them, so they wish they could make us need them lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:25 PM |
| 3 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Wow it's amazing that you got a degree whilst working AND caring for a young child, seriously well done to you! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:23 PM |
| 0 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Preach! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:22 PM |
| 1 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Literally. Like I know I definitely want marriage and kids but the shaming and nastiness towards women who don't makes me angry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Ladies: Does career take priority over family, and until what point does this hold true?Family always takes first priority over career, but the two aren't always in conflict like some people so badly want them to be. Working hard on your education/career actually helps your family in most circumstances, whether you're a man or a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Women in their 30s have more options than RP men think.Class, wealth and education definitely make a massive difference, even for women. How many doctors from upper middle class families do you see marrying hairdressers from working class backgrounds? The idea that most men only care about looks is true when it comes to casual relationships or one night stands, but not more serious pursuits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: Women’s careers are overrated compared to men’s.Really weird joke | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 06:06 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?I agree strongly with this too | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 03:03 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?But sex is mutually beneficial, and in many cases the man enjoys it more than the woman if anything. How can that be anyone's primary way of showing affection? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 03:03 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Loool | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 03:01 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?This is true, though there is a significant minority of women who just have an extremely low libido full stop. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 03:01 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Makes sense, twice a month isn't a lot at all! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:59 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Fair enough! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:59 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?I agree with this a lot, except the actual sex itself is pretty important to me too lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:58 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?A nice detailed answer, thanks for that | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:57 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Hm interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:55 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Interesting | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:54 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?A nice detailed answer, thanks for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:54 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Cheating is always cheating but agree with the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:53 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?This is how I see it too tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:52 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Also very true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:51 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?This is true tbh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:51 PM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: Women’s careers are overrated compared to men’s.Thank you, and I'm sorry to hear about what happened to you. 30-35 isn't late 30s though. Also older women sometimes have children with even older men (think 38 year old woman having a baby with a 45 year old man), which also contributes to this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 02:37 PM |
| 1 | Women in their 30s have more options than RP men think.Yeah women's options do decrease in their 30s but not as much as these guys make out. They talk about 30 year old women as if they're 45. Also men's options decrease in their 30s too, which is something many of them aren't willing to accept. And not to mention the options thing has a lot to do with class. A single 32 year old doctor won't be viewed the same way as a single 32 year old hairdresser. One is obviously much more likely to find decent, dateable childless single men in her age range wh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 12:08 PM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: Women’s careers are overrated compared to men’s.Actually I personally would ideally want to marry and start having kids in my mid - late 20s, whilst building up my career (it is possible with a flexible/family friendly job, co-operative partner and day care). But having children at 30 - 35 is literally not risky at all. Women don't need to start having kids at 18 or 20 anymore, it's not like we want to have 10 hoping we'll end up with a couple of sons who survive to adulthood like the 1800s ffs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 12:02 PM |
| 7 | Could this be the problem so many men struggle with women?As a woman, I always find these statistics so strange. I know a lot of men not paying much attention to the woman's pleasure is part of the problem, but there definitely seem to be some psychological issues going on with the women themselves too that aren't always directly the fault for the men they're sleeping with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 11:54 AM |
| 1 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadI don't know, I think it's worth it for doctors to make less if it means people who need free healthcare get to have access to it. And yeah I know doctors in America earn a lot, we actually have quite a few relatives on my mother's side of the family who are doctors there and they are all super rich. I'm not sure whether they even pressed charges on the nanny lol, I think they were just grateful she didn't hurt the baby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 11:45 AM |
| 1 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadI can't believe I'm having to say this, but a computer programmer (the job I used as my example in the previous post), is an ENTIRELY different job to a software engineer (the job that you somehow thought I was referring to). According to most sources, the average salary for a computer programmer in the U.K. is just £30,000 - £40,000. And bear in mind a young man in his mid 20s - mid 30s who is likely to be having young children (who'd actually be of the age to require nannies, etc.) would actua… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 11:42 AM |
| 1 | Unpopular opinion: Women’s careers are overrated compared to men’s.Why won't I have children? Because I don't want to be a housewife? Lmfao. Also no one of any gender is really attracted to a career, they are attracted to looks, personality traits, etc. (which sometimes get associated with certain jobs). So it's not like women are out here getting wet over bank balances lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 11:20 AM |
| 16 | Watch the FathersSometimes these guys subconsciously want to "avenge" their mothers or sisters by treating other women the same too (because the culture in their families is such that standing up to the male family members who mistreat/abuse these women and sorting out the problem the right way is so out of question). Honestly pick me's are such a big part of the problem, their role in these messes is often underestimated to a huge extent. | /r/FemaleDatingStrategy | 31/05/21 11:16 AM |
| 1 | QFW: Do you flirt/flirt back with guys you don't find attractive?Lmao so now we have to take the time to flirt with guys we’re not attracted to as yet another form of “sacrifice” to prove we’re “nice”? Get a grip. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/05/21 07:33 AM |
| 1 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadThe life of a middle-lower middle class housewife married to a computer programmer for example is still pretty physically demanding. Like seriously who can afford nannies, cleaners, etc. on a single income of £28,000 or something? She's still doing all that housework herself. And although I recognise that there are now some men who would be happy to be a stay at home dad (which wouldn't have been the case in the past), this still just a small minority. If in doubt, run a poll on this very sub as… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadThe 40% tax is only for people earning £40,000 and up, which is well above what most people of the age where they'd be starting families would earn. Like for a perspective, even doctors only start on a salary of £33,000. And yeah it is surprising that they'd make that choice, especially considering most of them had zero money issues (some of their husbands were doctors and engineers making serious bank). We have one relative who was a doctor married to another doctor who left her 2 month old wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 09:46 PM |
| 1 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedWhen it comes to age and looks, my view is that most people's looks start to slowly decline from mid-late 20s onwards. There are some exceptions who start looking better than before after that point among both men and women, but like you said, these are for the most part exceptions. What I disagree with however, is that women naturally age worse- and become less physically beautiful with advancing age than men. The "bad ageing" that you see in many women who aren't actually that old (I mean thos… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadNo the NHS doesn't pay for childcare, but it does result in a large chunk of many families' incomes (that would have had to be payed towards private health insurance and treatments otherwise), would remain with them to be used on other things, childcare being one of them. And yeah that makes sense, I would want to use the full one year of maternity leave I get too. I have relatives who went back to work 6 weeks after giving birth (no money shortages, a lot of them were actually pretty rich lol),… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 08:24 PM |
| 1 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadWith all due respect, I don't think you read my previous post properly. I never said being a SAHM is more physically demanding than being a copper miner. I said being a regular low/middle income SAHM (as in one with out cleaners, house help etc.) is much more physically demanding than sit-down jobs like an accountant or computer programmer. Also the vast majority of men- whether their occupation is of the more physically demanding blue collar type, the more mentally demanding white collar type, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 07:57 PM |
| 1 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadI'm not denying that it happens, but it's just not the most common age or location for children to be abused at. In fact it's more likely closer to the least. And if you think logically, it is very hard for a nursery nurse to molest a child in a place where there are so many other adults, and children. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 07:31 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?By enjoying each others' s presence, I didn't mean her just sitting and staring at you while you play video games or cook lol. I meant something more like playing video games, cooking or doing any other non sexual activity together and enjoying that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 07:07 PM |
| 4 | Unpopular opinion: Women’s careers are overrated compared to men’s.So is women's for many men. Actually most modern men do care about what a potential partner does for a living, and earns. Not to mention that the women themselves usually care about their careers and education too, it's not just about what men want. And wanting to wait a few years doesn't mean that they are "writing off" marriage or having a family. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 07:04 PM |
| 8 | Unpopular opinion: Women’s careers are overrated compared to men’s.Some do tell those women to STFU too lol. An alarming number claim being SAHM/housewife is the best and most important job a woman can do, whilst simultaneously saying it’s the easiest thing ever and women who do it should endlessly worship their husbands and do whatever they say in return for providing for them and their children. These guys tell on themselves so well I swear 💀. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 06:48 PM |
| 9 | Unpopular opinion: Women’s careers are overrated compared to men’s.The majority of men aren’t brain surgeons, high powered financiers, etc. either lmao. Does that mean they’d be “blabbering” if they don’t wish to have children in their early 20s, or quit their jobs at any point? The sexism is extra clear with this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 06:42 PM |
| 6 | In case you had any remaining doubts about the male ability to devastate women for their own convenience and pleasureThis is literally rape | /r/FemaleDatingStrategy | 30/05/21 11:51 AM |
| 1 | The biggest dating issue for men is wanting things to be simple and not accepting complexity.Not true. I've known a lot of jock/bad boy types in real life who would look like the world's most radical, fourth wave feminists compared to most of the socially and sexually unsuccessful "I" words you see on this sub and elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/05/21 10:26 AM |
| 5 | Do you still love your wives now that they’re no longer young?There are plenty of articles from reliable sources explaining how that particular statistic is fake, look them up if you have the will/patience. Otherwise just keep believing what you want to believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 02:03 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Being overly pessimistic doesn't make you a realist. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 02:02 PM |
| 1 | The biggest dating issue for men is wanting things to be simple and not accepting complexity.You've just proved my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 01:56 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Yeah the feeling of giving my partner pleasure is pleasurable to me too. And not to get too graphic but the actual feeling of giving head to a guy I find attractive (which any partner obviously would be) is a massive massive turn on in itself. And yeah a lot of guys apparently don't do it, but I've never had a partner like that (even the overall shittiest one was happy to give head, and I never even asked lol). I mean for advertising it you can always like certain posts on social media (after th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 01:52 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Not true. Most women never fuck randos, regardless of their sex drive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 01:39 PM |
| 4 | Do you still love your wives now that they’re no longer young?That statistic has been debunked so many times | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 01:38 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Not being alone, and getting fed/getting their house cleaned for those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 01:00 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?A lot of women with low libido's and mega vanilla tastes do really love their partners, and some women who don't truly care for or respect their partners can still be very attracted to them, and want lots of varied sex with them. Though I do agree that sexual compatibility is important, but the rest is more important. And that it's not the body count, but what it indicates that's an issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:55 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Makes sense. Also the shaming guys with lower sex drives (or guys who are in any way not traditionally male tbh) have to endure from other men is awful. I'm sure there would be lots of low libido women who'd love a partner like you though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:52 PM |
| 0 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?This is so true lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:48 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Maybe because we enjoy your presence too? Seriously though if you don't like being around your partner except when your having sex, you shouldn't even be together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:46 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?This is very true. A relationship like that has just as many chances of failing as one with no sexual compatibility, if not more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:44 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?No disrespect intended, but this doesn't really tally with how I view sex at all. As a woman with a high libido, who's fairly open in her tastes (and has zero hand ups about sex due to religious beliefs, lack of body confidence, etc) too, I don't really view having sex with my partner (a man I would be strongly attracted to) as a "service", or something I do for him. It's a pleasurable activity that benefits me just as much as it benefits him in my eyes. Something I do for him would be cooking f… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:37 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Fair enough. Much better than cheating, or coercing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?What's sexist about that?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:24 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?This is understandable tbh. I would hate being with a guy who had a super low libido (like once a month or less kind of low). And it would go from bad to worse if he was the type who'd judge and disrespect me for wanting to try out different things. That would be torture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:22 PM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?This is a really good answer tbh. Completely sums up how I feel personally tbh. One good thing about being a high libido/moderately adventurous woman (as opposed to a high libido/moderately adventurous man) is that I'm unlikely to run into men with really really low drives who think a hand job is super kinky, while the same can't be said for a man (especially if he's only into religious/low body count women). Not to be shaming or anything but I find it shocking how some women hate giving head, a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 12:16 PM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?I have a high-ish libido too but I always think this when people say they want sex more than once a day. Like when will you get time to plan things and talk about important stuff lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:58 AM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?It could be due to being too tired/busy, or body confidence issues too tbf. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:56 AM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?I agree personally because I have a high drive myself, but I appreciate that other people may be different, and show affection differently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:55 AM |
| 2 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?It is a little low but not totally unreal imo. Unrealistic would be expecting a pretty 30 year old to be a virgin, or have a count of just 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:53 AM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Makes a lot of sense and I agree with all of it completely. Sexual chemistry/compatibility is important, but not the most important thing. It would definitely be on the top 5 for me though lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:51 AM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?True for some women (me included lol), but not others. Many women, especially the types red pillers and traditionalists idolise tend to have really low sex drives compared to most men. It's not because they don't care much about their partners, they just don't care that much about sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:49 AM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Point taken haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:46 AM |
| 1 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?Yep. Unless she's accommodating his libido and kinks just to prove she's a good wife/gf and "keep" him (despite deriving no enjoyment from them herself), which is a generally miserable experience for the women (from what I've heard about it, never actually done it thank God). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:43 AM |
| 0 | How Important Is Sex In A Relationship, Actually?As a woman with what I'd say is a fairly high sex drive, I understand the first part, but seriously disagree the second one. Sexual compatibility is very much a thing. Two people can absolutely have very different sex drives, and/or sexual tastes. This is sexual incompatibility, and it causes problems ranging from mild to deadly serious in many, many relationships. It is very possible to be strongly attracted to someone, but still have a very different libido, or tastes to them. A woman being a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:37 AM |
| 4 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadSorry but you lost me at "women do almost no labour as a SAHM once the kids are school aged". Do you really think doing all the cooking, most of the cleaning, all the washing, most of the errands, keeping track/planning of all events, appointments etc. is "almost no labour"? Because that is exactly what an average SAHM does. Also interesting you chose to use an exceptionally physically demanding job like a copper miner as the example, when so many men doing extremely sedentary, physically un dem… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:20 AM |
| 1 | The biggest dating issue for men is wanting things to be simple and not accepting complexity.Many women hesitate to be perfectly blunt and clear cut about their wants/desires in public (or at least with people they aren't extremely comfortable with) because they fear being viewed as opinionated, rude, bitchy, high maintenance, etc.- qualities which are presented to many of us through various mediums since childhood as being some of things a woman can be. Not to mention it would probably be pretty awkward for a man to go up and directly ask a woman he knows in real life what she finds se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 11:00 AM |
| 2 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadYeah both the cost of living and the cost of childcare play a huge role in all this. Here in the U.K., all new mothers have the right to up to one year of paid maternity leave, and children mostly start full time pre school at 3-4, which is completely free if it’s attached to a school (and most primary schools do have a pre school). For many families with working mothers, this leaves only 2-3 years of childcare they have to pay for, per child. I think this is very much doable for a couple who bo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 10:04 AM |
| 1 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?I’d say it’s most likely a personality issue, regardless of the person’s gender. Though men/boys do give more importance to looks on average than women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/05/21 09:44 AM |
| 4 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadI agree with every word! The cost of living is a big reason, but it isn't the only one. Like some of us actually enjoy the work our job entails, and like being financially independent too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 04:49 PM |
| 4 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadYeah exactly, it's too much work, and too much of a risk otherwise. In fact even if I married a rich guy I'd probably want to start a small business doing something creative tbh. Really can't see myself being happy as a full time housewife/SAHM. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 04:46 PM |
| 1 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedFirst of all, I'm relieved that you're not a believer of the whole "50 is the real 25 (but only for men)" type of bs that gets propagated by a lot of people claiming to be "red pill". It's total bullshit, and anyone who has a modicum of common sense and honesty to themselves would accept that. As for the bit about developing certain characteristics with advancing age, I do agree that that is very true for some guys. But bear in mind that there are a lot of guys who are already confident, have gr… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 03:01 PM |
| 0 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?The thing is, they do lol. Either that or they're just comfortable being single. That's why there isn't really a female equivalent for "I" words. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 02:10 PM |
| 4 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadThis is the truth. The cost of living has gone up A LOT over the last couple of decades (especially in bigger cities/metros). Not to mention the options that people have in terms of self care, outings, holidays, home decoration, etc. have also increased exponentially. But at the same time, salaries haven't been increased in proportion to these changes, whether you look at high earners like doctors and senior managers, or at the lowest end of the spectrum with minimum wage workers (who actually a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 10:25 AM |
| 3 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadYeah I have worked in nurseries, and in one particular one in the small town I live in, many of the kids (ages 2-4) had SAHMs but came every other day or even every week day anyway. I definitely understand why the moms would send them tbh, it would be much easier to get stuff done around the house, study, or basically do anything else without a screaming little kid in the house. But I do think that would end up being a big strain on a lot of people’s finances (especially if they did it right fro… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 09:52 AM |
| 1 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?Yeah that is what happens most often. There’s definitely more to it than just bad looks if a physically healthy, non-deformed individual has never even been able to pull someone in their own league. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/05/21 09:31 AM |
| 12 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadHonestly no offence intended to anyone commenting here but looking at some of these comments is exactly why I never want to be a SAHM unless by some stroke of luck I marry a super rich guy (and even then I don't really know if I'd do it). I like to live well. Good makeup, good hair products, good clothes, nice days/nights out, holidays, hobbies and a really well kept house are things I know I want for myself, my kids and my partner. But I completely understand if a man with a nice but normal job… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 09:32 PM |
| 8 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadUm I'm willing to bet most of that was not toddlers at nursery | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 09:16 PM |
| 7 | Unpaid Labor Mega ThreadLol but this guy clearly upheld certain types of gender roles as the "ideal" in their family home (solely for his own benefit by the looks of it), and is now acting all surprised that his daughter took him seriously and decided to follow said roles in her own life. Surely you can see the hypocrisy of that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 09:14 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?Oh yeah sure, that's why there are some countries in the present day (and many more in the past) where there is no concept of basic human rights, except for certain elite groups who have many more privileges beyond those basics. It is absolutely a cultural concept, but I think we can all agree that cultures/systems that offer human rights are generally much more desirable to most people than those that don't. That's why we get so many people fleeing totalitarian regimes, and countries with uncon… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 09:04 PM |
| 1 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?Getting success of any type (and recognising it) is pretty hard without self belief in itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:53 PM |
| 3 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?This is the question they never like to answer lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:48 PM |
| 1 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?Because they go for women in and around their own league, and probably have at least seemingly somewhat decent personalities. Most "I" words don't seem to satisfy either of these conditions lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:45 PM |
| 0 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?Any guys feeling this way can just go for girls closer to their own league and their looks would no longer matter so much. Problem solved. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:43 PM |
| 2 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?Yeah I have definitely met guys I found attractive based off their looks, style, mannerisms etc. But when I got to know them just a little more, it became plain to see it wouldn't work between us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:40 PM |
| 1 | If personality matters more than looks then why are most couples looksmatched ? Doesn’t that mean looks is the main currency ?Because personality mattering more doesn't mean looks don't matter at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:38 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?I don't think that changes the fact that all human beings are entitled to some basic rights. But asking for more than that is too much. It's a "your rights end where others' begin" kind of situation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:27 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?What's your point? That the concept of human rights shouldn't be a thing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Stop resisting and accept realityThis is the truth right here. The idea that "monogamy is over", "Chads are fucking all the girls", etc. are just coping mechanisms for people who have been unable to do something the majority of people in the world have been able to do (get a relationship and/or have sex), despite (self admittedly) wanting and trying to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 12:19 PM |
| 1 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedI can't speak for all women, but personally I would never want to date a man (however wealthy/intelligent/handsome/sexy he may be) who sets me dress codes stricter than my damn university and work place. I don't care if he chooses someone else, in fact my only concern would be feeling bad for the other girl, as his insecure, prudish, controlling ass is her headache now. And frankly, I can't think of many girls who would follow this kind of "dress code" just for her boyfriend, except maybe a few … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedTo be honest, I do think the slowness with which most men decline physically as they age is hugely exaggerated by some people, especially those who identify as "red pill". As for age making a man more attractive: I am a 20 year old straight woman, and I have plenty of other straight female friends and acquaintances in my age range. Trust me when I say that the vast majority of us find young men in our age group (20-25) far, far more attractive than older ones. In fact, I know more girls who have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 11:43 AM |
| 9 | Average men never truly experience a women's love at its full extentLiterally! I thought I was the only one who found that puppy dog comparison so degrading. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/05/21 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedWhat do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 04:01 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooSo (despite statistical evidence), you don't believe that most guys lose their virginity in the mid teens-mid 20s kind of age range? What ages do you personally think do most guys lose it? I'm genuinely curious now. Also why is older virgins or a declining fertility rate a cause for concern? Declining fertility rates are actually a good thing, as people are living much longer these days than they did in the past. Too many people would just be a burden on all natural, and man made resources. Olde… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 04:01 PM |
| 1 | If RedPill is wrong, then how can we explain the appeal of muscular men?The bit about muscular men is like the only thing they are right about. It's a broken clock kind of situation lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 02:45 PM |
| 1 | Assuming you are an attractive guy, what are places to look for long lasting relationships?Why not try some more relationship oriented (as opposed to casual sex oriented) dating websites? Also through work (if you're brave haha) and through mutual friends is good. And don't forget regular social media like Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, etc. Good luck! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 02:35 PM |
| 7 | The biggest dating issue for men is wanting things to be simple and not accepting complexity.Exactly! A lot of jocks/popular guy types are actually not bad people, or bad partners at all. This whole assumption that all conventionally attractive and socially successful guys are evil (and all those who aren't are super nice) is so beyond ridiculous, not to mention blatantly biased lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 02:29 PM |
| 1 | The biggest dating issue for men is wanting things to be simple and not accepting complexity.I think most of the "monkey dance" stuff is coming from a place of wishing it was the 1800s when many women had few expectations of their own beyond being provided for, and not raped/beaten. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 02:27 PM |
| 11 | The biggest dating issue for men is wanting things to be simple and not accepting complexity.The fisherman/fish thing is horrible, and the very reason so many of them struggle. It's symbolic of the total lack of acceptance of the fact that we have wants and desires of our own too. But that said, while oversimplifying things is definitely a problem, overcomplicating them can be just as bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 02:16 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?I think I just view dating differently tbh. I still don't find dating unfair, because most people can pull partners who are of a similar level as them in terms of looks, finances, social skills, family background, etc. If some people want to date well out of their league and refuse to consider anyone remotely near it, that doesn't mean the dating system is unfair. And yes people with wealth, looks, etc. do have advantages, but we need to remember that they would likely want to date people around… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 02:05 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooI don't know how that study was conducted but the average age for loss of virginity for men in the U.K. has been found to be 18, so clearly most men will be in that age range when they lose it. Also 27% still isn't even the majority. Even according to that study, 73% of men under 30 have had sex (which is clearly the majority). So you've actually helped prove my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 01:54 PM |
| 3 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedOh plenty of below average looking girls want to settle down early (and many actually do) as well, but they aren't what these guys want. They want pretty, sociable, modest, virgins who will turn into freaks post meeting them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 01:49 PM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?But I do think everyone is entitled not to be verbally abused, beaten, touched inappropriately, raped or killed. But beyond that, nothing unless you actually have a relationship of some sort with the concerned party. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedMost men's physical value declines as they age too, so the same applies to them. Among younger women, only gold diggers who care about fuck all beyond money would think a 45 year old man with a well paying, senior position would make a better partner than a 25 year old with a stable but worse paying job just because of the money. I really don't see how a younger woman would be getting some middle aged/old man's "best" in anything except the financial aspect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 11:18 AM |
| 2 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedAnd why would any average-above average looking, body confident woman in the west choose to follow these rules? The only reason I can think of is being a super religious Christian or Muslim, who likely wouldn't date any men outside their specific religious sects anyway, if they even date at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 11:02 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?That applies to many women too, both forever single ones and ones who haven't been able to find a good relationship for whatever reason. It's not an entirely male issue. And either way, no one of any gender/sexuality has a right to some random person's time, money or body just because they're attracted to them. All we really have a right to from everyone is basic human decency and respect. Rights to more than that begin only after a relationship is established, and even then rape/abuse of any ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 10:50 AM |
| 3 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedThis is such a fantastic analysis, one of the best comments that I've ever seen on this sub. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedThis is so true as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:41 AM |
| 1 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedTHIS. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:37 AM |
| 3 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedAnd the pretty but modest girls that do exist tend to settle down early, so they aren't really going to be available for single 30 year old men unless they've ended up divorced/single moms, which is again something that these guys definitely don't want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:33 AM |
| 2 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedAnd let's not forget using the fact that said modest virginal woman doesn't want everyday sex, blowjobs, anal, etc (what a surprise), as an excuse to cheat around with the most extreme versions of the type of women they used to say were "un-wifeable". | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:20 AM |
| 2 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedIt's literally the most obvious thing ever, but the same people who claim mEn ArE mOrE lOgIcAl will still be clutching at staws to contradict you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:13 AM |
| 4 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedYeah turns out they don't "respect" virginal, modest, submissive , low maintenance women so much after all. They just think they are more handy and useful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:07 AM |
| 2 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedI think the dream for many of them is a girl that looks, dresses like and has the social skills of "Stacey", but has the extremely low expectations, extremely low body count and extreme tendency to "adjust"/"compromise" that are characteristic of a totally different type of girl. But obviously that type of girl doesn't really exist, so that causes problems for those who are intent on only ever settling down with someone like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 09:01 AM |
| 2 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?Because engineering it would be an attack on people's human rights. Now please don't tell me you think sex with hotties is a human right too lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 08:48 AM |
| 2 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?That is ridiculous. Women aren't resources that need to be distributed "fairly". We aren't university seats or jobs to have some sort of affirmative action policies applied to us. We're human beings with feelings, just like men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 08:47 AM |
| 1 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?I don't think dating as a system is unfair at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 08:44 AM |
| 0 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooOh please, as if men don't fuck women they find morally questionable just because they're hot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 08:42 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooIt is true though! I prefer to just say "bigger" or "plus sized" if I have to refer to some people's weight/size. Curvy is just not an accurate description for many of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/05/21 07:33 AM |
| 19 | Virginity or modesty in women - seems like it’s both looked down upon and cherishedBut it is a hugely unrealistic expectation, so most of us learn to prioritise what we really want, and look for love among those who have it. Those who are unable to do that are unfortunately condemned to remain alone/dissatisfied until they learn to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 09:52 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooApps geared towards casual sex with minimal female presence aren't representative of real life. Most average looking guys have had sex and relationships with women by the time they cross their early 20s. It's seriously not that hard for the majority of genuinely average guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 09:49 PM |
| 2 | [Q4All]Can Dating/Romance for the most part be broken down like this?YES. This is the truth. If more people realised this, then they wouldn't be claiming dAtInG iS uNfAiR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 09:43 PM |
| 3 | Why do so many liberal feminist women discourage so many under 30 women from getting married and having kids in their 20s ?I actually don't personally know any genuinely high value good men who married women way younger than them. Promiscuous triple divorcee, serial cheater billionaire's aren't my idea of high value men lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 07:36 PM |
| 2 | Why do so many liberal feminist women discourage so many under 30 women from getting married and having kids in their 20s ?The dream is to settle down and start having kids as an old geezer with some early 20s woman lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many liberal feminist women discourage so many under 30 women from getting married and having kids in their 20s ?Because it's not a great idea to marry/start having kids very young for innumerable reasons, and make that x100 if both parties are still mostly dependant on their parents for finances. If two people are truly in love, waiting 2-4 years to be in a decent place financially isn't going to kill their relationship. Coming back to the exact topic at hand, I do consider myself a feminist, I'm not totally against early marriage/motherhood., even if the couple aren't totally financially independent at t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 07:18 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?This is 100% true, it does improve the lives of the majority. But it would also mean taxing people more according to how much they earn, which obviously doesn't go down well with those that do (and misguided low and middle income people who think it'll somehow hurt them). Also tbf, the mostly misguided people do have a small point imo, because a lot of corrupt "socialist" identifying governments unfairly go after the middle classes, and owners of relatively smaller local businesses whilst leavin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Oh so that is one way that Sweden is similar to America haha. And yeah the optional spreading out is good, but I probably would still choose to take one whole year, and then get back to work. I personally wouldn't send my child to nursery while they're unvaccinated and need to be breastfed, that's too much even for me. In America (again due to extreme capitalism), private companies are free to fire people for whatever reason, and provide minimal maternity and paternity leave if they so wish. Eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 07:04 PM |
| 0 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooSo you'd suggest that more people should decide not to have children? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 06:52 PM |
| 5 | Are beauty pageants sexist or empowering?As someone with family from a country that has produced a lot of famous finalists and even winners, speaking for that country at least, I can say for a fact that the majority of girls entering pageants there are from fairly affluent backgrounds. In fact those kinds of settings within the country are known to be pretty elitist, and especially unfriendly to young women coming from poverty, or rural areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Are beauty pageants sexist or empowering?I don't think pageants are inherently disempowering/degrading. The women entering are doing so out of choice. And lets not forget there are male beauty pageants too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 05:43 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooWhat would you say are those things they are expected to "put on the line"? And what "unfair" advantages would you say women get from online dating apps/websites? Also sharing the pay for dates is pretty normal nowadays. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 05:41 PM |
| 0 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooHaving sex with people you have no attraction to in order to "reward" them is highly abnormal, and extremely unusual behaviour. Men who choose not to engage in it aren't "selfish", they are just normal, mentally healthy humans. Same goes for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 05:37 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooSo you think most women ought not to study humanities, or study STEM? What do you think we should study? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 05:32 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooWhat is the solution you'd suggest for that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 05:30 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooNah "average" or "5" by most people's definitions is always the most commonly occurring level when it comes to looks. Most guys are average looking, and considered as such by most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 05:30 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah I think the vast majority vote selfishly to some extent (and there's nothing wrong with that imo), but the extremes of it irritate me so much. Like though my family definitely aren't rich (I went to free government run schools had to take out a student loan and everything lol), we're definitely into the middle class,. But I still support the idea of raising the minimum wage, and better council housing. I'm not trying to paint myself as a great person or anything, but I do think whilst looki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 01:07 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooThat's why I think more women should go into STEM fields. Do you think the same? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:46 PM |
| 0 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooSo you think all women with plans of working outside the house should return to work immediately after giving birth, and have the baby's father look after it at home instead? Or put it into the much dreaded daycare system? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:44 PM |
| 0 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooSo would you offer your body to a girl you find unattractive just because she's been nice to you? Does that match your idea of "fairness" and "justice"? Or does it hurt your feelings? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooThat's probably because they actually think things like harassment (or even rape itself) are justified, and hence would be categorised as creeps by most women themselves (clearly unlike you haha). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:28 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooBut then when women do get raped, they're super quick to either blame the woman, or just declare her a liar. How can we not fear rape with attitudes like these? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooThis is the truth right here. Also people can't be expecting this weird, warped version of "fairness" where the opposite gender has zero standards. Especially when said people have their own standards too. Because that is actually anything but fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:23 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooNot remotely as common as the reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:18 PM |
| 2 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooYeah I think a lot of them place themselves as average when most people would consider them well below it. It's strange, average looking has often become a euphemism for bad looking these days, the same way curvy has for Class 3 obese lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 12:11 PM |
| 1 | CMV: If you believe it's fine that dating is not fair for men, you have to apply that to women tooI don't think modern dating as a system is unfair to men, or to women. A lot of men do however become varying degrees of unfair in their expectations of a woman once a relationship (or sometimes even the possibility of one) is established, due to patriarchal conditioning and/or their own bad personalities. A few men have unfair expectations even from women who have expressed no interest in them due to the same reasons, but these are rarer. Some women also have very unfair expectations from the m… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 11:55 AM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah school does start early here compared to most other countries. Though not compulsory, it is very much encouraged to put kids in some type of preschool in the September of the year they turn 4 (so most would actually be starting at 3). And then after that it's compulsory school from the September after that and onwards till they're 16. And it's good to know that all companies have to offer maternity and paternity leave in Sweden too, I think that should be law everywhere. Also I do think it … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 11:40 AM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah it’s always straight to the USSR or even worse places. Like these people can’t seem to see that there is a spectrum. And it’s absolutely fine (and actually very common) to create a new social/political ideology using certain parts of existing ideologies, but not others. Like for example we come from a part of India where a lot of people are pretty far left on many issues, but they can also be pretty conservative on others. It’s another matter that this is sometimes just due to self interest… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 10:24 AM |
| 2 | Are FDS users aware of the fact that there's a large overlap in their thinking and traditional conservative values?Holding open doors and pulling out chairs for girls they find attractive with hopes of hot sex doesn’t mean treating us as goddesses. Have you even seen any sexual harassment/ rape/domestic violence statistics? Just lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/05/21 10:05 AM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Aw that's good to know, and I agree with what you put too. And I do find it pretty weird when they bring "freedom" into these discussions tbh. Like why can't these people see that a country can follow certain aspects of socialism, and still be a free democracy. There are already countries that do this (from the UK, France and most Scandinavian countries right down to much poorer countries like India and parts of South America). It doesn't have to be extreme capitalism, extreme communism or nothi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 05:28 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Oh I'm glad you get what I mean about home schooling. As I'm sure you'd know, there is a very vocal minority who are strongly in favour of it, and most of their reasoning just doesn't make sense to me. Like if you legit have some sort of unusual religious/political standpoint, just send them to a school that supports that lol. And yeah I really sympathise with people who have been home schooled from a young age, especially if they have crazy parents. As for the pre-school/nursery thing, the job … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 05:12 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Ah right. I'm British (born and raised here) but my family are Indian. I have heard Scandinavian countries are probably the most liberal in the world, and very, very different from America when it comes to laws, culture, etc. Free further/higher education and free healthcare for all is excellent, and I think they should ideally be available in all countries (especially the health care). The fact that there's actually large sections of people in America and other countries who oppose this is agai… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 04:40 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?I'm really sorry to hear about what happened to you. And of course parents should ideally do most of the work raising their children. But I do think we need to bear in mind that while a child spending time with their parents, and the bonding that hopefully results from that is very precious and important for the child (as well as the parents), they do need to be taught how to look after themselves, make friends within their age range, and fit into a work environment. I am by no means suggesting … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 04:11 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah that is a good way to go, tbh, what country are you from, if I may ask? Also the pro gun people really show the significance of cultural conditioning (including political propaganda from vested interests) imo. On another note did you know there are actual pro-smoking groups in the UK with actual, sane adults as members? Some people can be hoodwinked into supporting just about anything by beneficiaries of the same lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 03:39 PM |
| 2 | Are FDS users aware of the fact that there's a large overlap in their thinking and traditional conservative values?First of all, AWALT is a load of horse shit. Secondly, although working out can improve overall looks, it doesn't change facial features, skin, hair etc. much. And I've never seen red pill men talking about fashion (in fact I've had some say it doesn't matter at all, even for women on this sub). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 03:28 PM |
| 2 | Are FDS users aware of the fact that there's a large overlap in their thinking and traditional conservative values?And you think most men see women that way, and are simps? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 03:25 PM |
| 2 | Are FDS users aware of the fact that there's a large overlap in their thinking and traditional conservative values?How on Earth can an ideology offer good looks?? I don't see any way unless said ideology is promoting makeup or plastic surgery, which red pill most definitely doesn't. Let alone that stuff, these guys don't even seem to believe in fashion tips lmao. Also the behaviours women find attractive vary from woman to woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 03:13 PM |
| 2 | Are FDS users aware of the fact that there's a large overlap in their thinking and traditional conservative values?Most red pill guys seem to offer very little value tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 03:10 PM |
| 3 | Are FDS users aware of the fact that there's a large overlap in their thinking and traditional conservative values?And how do you think men, in general see women? As goddesses to be worshipped and obeyed? Lmfao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 03:04 PM |
| 4 | Are FDS users aware of the fact that there's a large overlap in their thinking and traditional conservative values?I am aware of the overlap, and as someone who is pretty much a centrist (or maybe a little left of centre) overall, I don't mind. I think some socially conservative people are right about certain issues, and I actually don't fully agree with a lot of the common standpoints of the far left on many social issues these days. However, I do find myself strongly disagreeing with many of the views that so many socially conservative/traditionalist men (both right wing white ones and the non white "liber… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Dads dont want their daughters to be housewives/submissive womenI think she means that many of these men do propagate repressive rules in certain social circles to show off, and to their wives/women in their lives who they generally care less about for their own benefit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 01:30 PM |
| 1 | If you're an independent career woman who is very financially successful would you be interested at all in a younger intelligent man with a normal job who would be willing to support you in your career and take responsibility of the domestic chores? Or do you still expect an older career man?All western women's (even the strongly anti-feminist/socially conservative ones') priorities and expectations have been effected to varying extents by the changes that have occurred in western society over the last century. If you go back to the UK or USA of the 1800s, you get a society where women usually did not work most jobs to begin with, and once she married, the idea of a woman working any job at all was heavily frowned upon, unless it was due to extreme poverty. Add to this the huge soci… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 01:24 PM |
| 1 | Dads dont want their daughters to be housewives/submissive womenIt's got nothing to do with hamsters or guinea pigs lmao, she's just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of many so called conservative men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 12:42 PM |
| 2 | Dads dont want their daughters to be housewives/submissive womenIn all fairness, there are definitely sizeable numbers of men that would ideally want their younger sisters, daughters, granddaughters etc. to be submissive housewives/SAHMs- these are the true hardcore traditionalists/patriarchal gender role believers of the world. However, there are also a lot of men who are just opportunistic hypocrites masquerading as the above. These men will want meek, submissive, un-ambitious women as wives for themselves and sometimes the men they care about too (younger… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/05/21 11:56 AM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?I know of many unhappy and/or broken relationships where traditional gender roles were followed by both parties, and many very happy ones where they weren't. If either the husband or the wife (or both) simply aren't cut out for that kind of dynamic, it'll just put a strain on their relationship and end up making people unhappy. The only reason it seemed to work so well in the past (and still "works" in other countries) is because of turning divorce into a huge taboo lol. Plenty of people had awf… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 06:12 PM |
| 0 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?That doesn't mean their job would mean more to them than their husband or children though, at least it shouldn't lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 06:02 PM |
| 0 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?This makes a lot of sense to me tbh. I do want to work after marriage and kids but obviously family always comes first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 06:01 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?I definitely don't dislike the career path I'm taking right now, but tbh if money/stability wasn't a factor, I would probably be setting up a small business in something creative, I personally think that is the best kind of job when it comes to the actual content of the work. Those 9 to 5 office jobs look the most boring, and I don't think they are even as stable/easy to find in this generation as they were in the past (due to increasing digitalisation, and more graduates competing for the jobs)… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:59 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?How much would you say is too much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:52 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Fair enough! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:52 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Obviously you're entitled to your preferences and all, but I'm pretty sure a child's success has more to do with economic status of the parents (and of course the role models they see at home growing up) than whether or not they went to daycare. Thanks for the honesty though btw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:51 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Not surprised there was an answer like this on this sub lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:49 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?I wouldn't mind a guy with longer hours or long periods away from home (as long as the job was stable and made decent money), but that does make sense to me tbh. Managing everything on your own while they're away can be hard, and long periods of being away from each other can put a strain on the relationship in some cases along with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:46 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Haha fair enough, I think no cops or military is coming up a lot lol. Is it because you see those women as more aggressive/masculine, or the hours, or something else? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:44 PM |
| 3 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?I do know quite a few happy couples where both the man and the woman work outside the house, and many miserable/separated ones where the man worked full time, and the woman was a housewife. But that said, everyone has a right to their own preferences, and I'm happy that you've found what you were looking for! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:41 PM |
| 3 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Not personally into that kind of life, but nothing wrong with it as long as you're honest and upfront about it early on! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:39 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?You don't care about the pay/hours at all? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:37 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Lmaoo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:37 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?OK fair enough, appreciate the honesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:37 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?What seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:36 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Do you mean that you'd prefer her not to work at all, or just to work a less stressful job? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:35 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah I heard that too, it was shocking. I'm pretty sure it was one year till recently here in the U.K., and now you need a full three year degree/degree apprenticeship in policing just to start at an entry level position. And yeah it's similar here with guns too, normal constables patrolling the streets would never be holding guns. I think America definitely needs tougher gun laws, it would probably solve a lot of problems they have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:33 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Lmao wtf | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 05:22 PM |
| 3 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Hate to be the one to crush your dreams bro but most of the girls on OnlyFans- especially the ones revealing their names, faces, etc on there- are probably into prostitution of some sort in real life too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 04:33 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Lmaooo what guy doesn't want a hot dumb rich girl am I right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 04:29 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Ahahaha fair enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 04:29 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Wow it sounds like your mom raised you guys really well, good on her and lucky you! I feel teaching kids important life skills like that is paramount tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 04:27 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?I've worked in nurseries myself, and there's just so many staff there all the time watching you and everything, it's not an atmosphere that would be conducive to any kind of abuse at all, honestly. That along with the fact that they know the children will be collected at the end of the day, and any marks/signs of abuse would be seen by the parents make the chances of anything bad happening really, really low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 04:23 PM |
| 5 | If you're an independent career woman who is very financially successful would you be interested at all in a younger intelligent man with a normal job who would be willing to support you in your career and take responsibility of the domestic chores? Or do you still expect an older career man?True, but a relationship with a 25 year old when I'm 50 would just feel kind of creepy , and I would always know deep down that he most likely would not be interested at all if it wasn't for my money. Not to mention the gaps in maturity and all the other issues. The only real plus points would be the sex, and just enjoying looking at his face/body lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 12:18 PM |
| 12 | If you're an independent career woman who is very financially successful would you be interested at all in a younger intelligent man with a normal job who would be willing to support you in your career and take responsibility of the domestic chores? Or do you still expect an older career man?It is tbh, but I wouldn't want a relationship where he's not genuinely attracted to me, mainly in it for the money, and constantly wishing he could be spending time with a girl of his own generation instead. Because the above is the reality for most of these types of relationships, regardless of the genders. Plus I myself would most likely relate to a man of my own generation much better than some young guy (however handsome/fit he is lol). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 06:52 AM |
| 1 | If you're an independent career woman who is very financially successful would you be interested at all in a younger intelligent man with a normal job who would be willing to support you in your career and take responsibility of the domestic chores? Or do you still expect an older career man?Oh yeah definitely, in fact a guy who is the same age as me (or a little younger), more physically attractive to me, and willing to support my ambitions but earns a little less than me is any day a better partner for me than an older, comparatively less attractive man who earns loads and wants me to eventually quit work and become a housewife. It's not the 1930s anymore that I have to settle for an older, less (physically and otherwise) attractive man just because I like expensive shoes, and God… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 06:48 AM |
| 1 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?Yes! It's most likely one or more out of an obviously bad personality, bad social skills, bad presentation of themselves or a build/facial features that most don't consider attractive. Just height (especially if he's 5"7 rather than 5"2 lol) doesn't make as much of a difference as it's made out to make. I actually used to know a fairly short guy (who was also not white, and not even white passing btw, which many incels claim is the most unfortunate combo), who was also dumb as a box of rocks, a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/05/21 06:35 AM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah I’ve never heard of police here in Britain acting like that. Racism in general seems to be worse over there, same goes for the training police receive to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 10:00 PM |
| 4 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah I find this standpoint the most relatable if that makes sense (except I wouldn't mind a man who worked a lot as long as he pulled his weight in terms of housework when he could, as I'll be working too). Not to be weird but I would ideally want a man who thinks like you when it comes to this lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 09:00 PM |
| 0 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?As a woman feel the same too, (though I would ideally want it to be something stable and decently paying). Except for the no cops thing haha, I think the really bad ones are the minority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 08:57 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Ah thanks for clearing that up, that does sound like a good job for someone who's in that kind of field. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:30 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah part time is good tbh, I think I'd want to either work part time or full time depending on the circumstances. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:29 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?That's nice, I can tell you're a caring partner from this | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:28 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah that's the only right way to be imo, no leading people on with false hopes. I'm exactly the same. And you're right, the kind of honesty that you often get on this sub is the reason why it's so interesting as well as upsetting/angering at times. But the good definitely outweighs the bad imo. I'm very happy to know though that you've found the one! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:25 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Yeah that definitely makes sense (I wouldn't normally consider someone who made a lot less than me either), and being in a similar field is definitely a helpful bonus too imo. I appreciate the honesty and attention to detail too btw, thanks for this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:15 PM |
| 3 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?You mean a consultant doctor or like a financial consultant? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:11 PM |
| 0 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Ahahaha yeah fair enough. Any jobs you like or really hate among more regular ones? And would you prefer her to work or stay home after moving in/marrying/having kids? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:07 PM |
| 10 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Lol do you realise most strippers double up as prostitutes? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:05 PM |
| 3 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Fair enough, as long as you're open about that fairly early on it's fine. Though I do want to add that wanting me to be a housewife/SAHM would be a deal breaker for me personally, but obviously there are women who don't feel that way at all, as I'm sure you would know. Also thanks for the blunt honesty about all of it, this is exactly what makes this sub worth being on tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:03 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?Lol seriously? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:56 PM |
| 7 | What Are Your Most Preferred Occupations For Your Partner- And Why ?This is much more specified than what I expected, but it makes sense tbh! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:56 PM |
| 1 | Do you think beauty is subjective or objective?I think it is ultimately subjective. People who are generally considered bad looking, below average, average, good looking and so on are put into whichever categories they are put into just because of popular consensus among people who have met or seen them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:13 PM |
| 1 | Why is locker room talk a bad thing?Literally this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 05:10 PM |
| 3 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?Yeah I know a few girls like that too, and you're right they are pretty vocal about their preference lol. And yeah I completely agree with you on this. A 5"7 guy with a nice face, fit body and an attractive vibe, style and features I personally like is way hotter to me than some plain looking 6"3 guy with an average face and body, plus nothing that makes him especially attractive to me. Also I'm glad you liked that comparison, it's the best I could think of tbh. I do know quite a few girls simil… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 04:40 PM |
| 0 | If you strongly prefer virgin, or very low N count women, you're obligated to wait for sex on dates.Literally lmao, and not to mention most women don't even have access to so called "top tier" Chads anyway lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 04:10 PM |
| 4 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?Yeah I'm not denying height is important to most women (including me to some extent) but it's only really guys on the extreme end of the short side 5"5 or lower) who may have a fair amount of trouble solely due to height. I think it's comparable to having a bigger bum, or breasts compared to the rest of her for a woman. If the girl is otherwise average-above average looking and not obese, having a flat chest or no ass isn't necessarily going to put her that far below curvier girls in most guys' … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 03:33 PM |
| 1 | 'Alpha' and 'beta' in the red pill are merely substitute words for 'jocks' and 'nerds'I think it's just a very overly simplistic way of looking at people in plenty of ways tbh. Most men have mixtures of "alpha", "beta" (and neither "alpha" nor "beta") traits both physically and personality wise. What makes them attractive or unattractive to a woman would depend on what traits she's personally into, most often along with being fit, conventionally good features, social skills, confidence and the really basic stuff (which btw doesn't necessarily correlate with being "alpha"). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:13 PM |
| 2 | The real reason some women are against porn, prostitution and pick mes has nothing to do with protecting their fellow women. It has to do with monopolising sexual pleasureI hate be the one to say to say not all men, but thankfully most men aren't like that. Agree with everything else you said though, I feel awful for the women that have to actually do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 12:07 PM |
| 2 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesYeah it is not normal at all and it has been very much illegal for a long time, but it's still terrible for the unlucky ones who are stuck in such situations. I do pray that they are all able to get out and seek help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 11:17 AM |
| 1 | The real reason some women are against porn, prostitution and pick mes has nothing to do with protecting their fellow women. It has to do with monopolising sexual pleasureLiterally, why would we be jealous of prostitutes who have to do whatever degenerate sex acts demanded by whoever regardless of how unattractive/crazy they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 11:14 AM |
| 3 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?Woman right here who’d take overall good looks, good build and sex appeal over tallness any day lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 10:48 AM |
| 2 | what do you think is the main reason for men giving commitment to one girl, but not the other?I think these situations can be divided into roughly three categories: a.) He doesn’t see a woman as “marriage/mother of his children material” for whatever reason. This could be for any reason ranging from being what he defines as too promiscuous, not of the right status, not of the right race/religion, not of the right personality and so on. b.) He’s not ready for living in/engagement/marriage at this point in time. Again this could be due to a variety of reasons, from financial/educational/pe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 10:40 AM |
| 1 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcI don’t think the word rape is useless it all. What needs to stop is a few people trying to term situations where both parties agreed to sex (with no one being incapacitated or threatened with harm) as rape. With all it’s negative implications, it’s a good job most people in power don’t really take this stuff seriously. However their awareness of the same can often mean that genuinely victims/survivors don’t get taken seriously either, which is horrible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 10:30 AM |
| 1 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesBut there is a much higher chance of a healthy and happy relationship that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesOh that is strange to hear, such a young child being sent to live with her husband (even if the marriage has already taken place) is extremely unusual among most communities there as far as I know. It’s heartbreaking either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 10:18 AM |
| 3 | The victim is never responsible for being abused, raped, etcOh absolutely, the victim blaming/shaming in those groups is disgusting. Not to mention constantly trying to equate things like sexlessness and divorce to rape, which I feel is an insult to all survivors. But that said, I feel there is a very small but very vocal minority on the far left who for some reason want to endlessly expand the definition of rape. I know these people mostly mean well, but I think they need to realise that along with being harmful in a bunch of other ways, this also adds … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/05/21 06:52 AM |
| 1 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesThat is truly tragic. What country were they from, if you don't mind me asking? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 08:56 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Well to be fair to us there are guys who don't like sexually experienced or aware women. I'm glad you don't think like that though haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Have you noticed any patterns in the types of people attracted to you?Yeah the shared interests thing is probably it tbh, and yeah most people are normally more secure approaching people of their own ethnicity which makes sense. Except the weird part is I get more black/middle eastern/Pakistani guys into me than Indian which is my ethnicity lol. Not sure why that is but it's always been that way since I was in my teens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 08:48 PM |
| 2 | Have you noticed any patterns in the types of people attracted to you?I think it's not seeming particularly smart myself, or sharing many of their interests which is fair. And even purely from a looks point of view I think most guys like that prefer white girls with a less curvaceous shape if that makes sense lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 06:48 PM |
| 1 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesOf course but it all gets much, much harder and less enjoyable if your wife/husband is basically not right for you and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 06:42 PM |
| 4 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesI agree so strongly with this. A few still married couples I know seem to hate each other more than some of the divorced/separated ones lmao. The best thing to do in some situations is just split tf up, honestly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 06:29 PM |
| 4 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesNot really. It was heavily stigmatised in most of India till recently, and still is in some areas. Divorcing a cheating or even abusive spouse could sometimes lead to your whole family cutting you off and even being ostracised by friends/neighbours. A divorced individual's children and even siblings may struggle to find "alliances" in the arranged marriage market themselves due to the divorce. All this plays a huge role in preventing some very, very unhappy couples who have internally lost all i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 06:05 PM |
| 2 | Have you noticed any patterns in the types of people attracted to you?Oh yeah definitely. I get a lot of soft sexists, players, useless slackers, and guys with aggressive tendencies who are bullies but often (strangely enough) pretty ok with me. Generally a lot of guys who are into rap/hiphop too. Also despite being of Indian origin and living in a white majority country, it's mainly (though not entirely) black, middle eastern and Pakistani guys who tend to be into me lol. Some older guys as well, though more the early middle aged ones than full on grandpas lmao. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 05:56 PM |
| 2 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesThat's always possible, but you are much more likely to be happy with someone you didn't have to work hard to like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 05:35 PM |
| 1 | Discussion: what are your Big 5 Personality Traits?Mine are: Extroversion- 78 Emotional stability- 81 Agreeableness- 67 Conscientiousness- 57 Intellect/imagination- 76 I think it makes me sound better than I am tbh lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 05:31 PM |
| 2 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesYes of course but why deliberately make it harder/riskier for yourself? Like what does it even achieve? I think dating, having a long-ish relationship (ideally 2-5 years, maybe more in some circumstances) where you get plenty of time to know each other well and then marrying if everything is working out is a so much better route. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 05:16 PM |
| 4 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesNo, marriages in the west "fail" simply because divorce is an option in the first place. And the idea that people aren't marrying for shallow reasons in the "arranged marriage market" so to speak just one huge western misconception. So many more people marry mainly or solely for looks/money/contacts in a system where you don't actually get to know your future partner's personality. Western dating is actually a lot less shallow as a whole, and I'm saying this as someone of an Indian background | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 05:12 PM |
| 2 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesI swear you always spit facts lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 04:56 PM |
| 3 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesBut why work extra hard to make it work with someone you're not particularly compatible with, when you could most likely just find someone better suited to you to begin with? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 04:53 PM |
| 7 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesThat's alright! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 02:14 PM |
| 7 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesOf course just sexual attraction and admiration of their looks isn't enough to sustain a marriage. But neither is the man having a good job and being (or seeming?) mature. Marrying people just because they seem "stable" when there is little to no physical attraction or enjoyment of each other's presence/personality is like the perfect recipe for dead bedrooms and affairs. What really keeps a marriage going is the love between the two people, and how their personalities compliment each other, and… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 02:08 PM |
| 104 | Let’s talk about arranged marriagesI come from an Indian family, and honestly I'd say dating, despite it's own flaws and pit falls is far, far better. Pretty sure the only reason why the divorce rate is so low in India is because for a long time, divorce has been a huge taboo in society, so even people in abusive marriages usually prefer to stay and suffer. It is only in the last decade or so that a significant change is being made in that department among the middle and lower classes. Don't get me wrong, a lot of arranged marria… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 01:58 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Hm this is an interesting take tbh. If you had to choose between a virgin, or very low body count woman who is what you would think of as very prudish, or a more adventurous woman who has what you'd think of as a medium-high body count- (assuming the two are similar/equal in every other aspect)- who would you choose for a serious relationship, or marriage in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:45 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Same, for all of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:38 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I appreciate the honesty, and the realism of this one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:37 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Hm fair enough, thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Makes sense, but would you see a woman like what you described as "wife material" (of course provided all else is right with her lol) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:33 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Gangbangs are not as common as a lot of you guys here seem to think lol. Also if you had to choose between two women (who are similar/equal in every other way), but one is a virgin with a low libido and super vanilla tastes, while the other has a medium-high body count but a high libido and is more adventurous, who would you choose for a serious relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:32 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough, makes sense tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Oh it's easy to grasp alright, it's just that kinky, pretty virgins are very, very rare and many don't seem to realise that lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:28 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?This is good to hear. Also the really extreme stuff you listed would definitely be deal breakers for me as well, and I think they would be for most people (except the extraordinarily desperate, or those who are equally nuts lmao ). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:25 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I don't think there's anything calculated or manipulative about not being comfortable sleeping with someone you barely know. I'd say it's actually pretty normal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:19 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough, I appreciate the honesty. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:17 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Makes sense tbh, thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:16 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Thanks for being so honest and detailed. Though bear in mind that often it IS the same guys who value a very low count/virginity/general sexual innocence in a woman quite a lot (and see it as making them more "wife material"), who also hope for blowjobs, anal, and frequent fun/wild sex in general once said woman becomes their girlfriend/wife. But yeah the last part definitely makes sense, I wouldn't want a man who was "adventurous" with other women in the pat but not with me either lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:14 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Lmao fair enough, thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:07 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?You've pretty much summed up my exact feelings towards this issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:06 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Makes sense, thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:05 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?What do you consider high? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:04 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Some guys get suspicious about her body count/start seeing her as a slut for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/05/21 10:01 AM |
| 1 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.I mean some clearly don't mind that much lmao but yeah, what you're saying definitely applies to most people from both genders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:49 PM |
| 1 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.Lmao exactly. It's so hilarious and somewhat sad at the same time how so many incels think they are "average men", and are in the majority. Like how do they expect to sort out their situation if they don't even accept it's reality? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:41 PM |
| 15 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.THIS! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:36 PM |
| 3 | Men are responsible for women’s alleged “inflated egos” and overvaluing themselves.Literally. Also some guys translate having any type of standards- or simply not being attracted to/interested in them personally as an "inflated ego". It's their sexism that makes women having standards and preferences look morally wrong in some way, but men having the same is just normal to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Dw I don't think there's anything shallow or bad about that at all, as long as it doesn't lead to cheating or anything. You have a right to your preferences. I'm glad you're happy with your wife now though btw. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I laughed so hard at this one too haha. Yeah that pretty much sums up my feelings too. It's good to try different things, and I want a guy who would be open to that, and wouldn't disrespect me or put me in the side piece category for feeling that way. But at the same time I wouldn't want a man who simply can't cum from just normal p in v sex lmao. And yeah I'm aware that if the girl is suggesting stuff that they're into themselves, and her sex drive matches their own, it will be a major turn on … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah that is true tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Do bear in mind though that many women who are very prudish/restricted in bed aren't necessarily like that girl though lol, they would probably be like that with any guy haha. Some women genuinely do not enjoy anything beyond super soft, vanilla sex, and legitimately hate even pretty "normal" stuff like giving/getting head. But I appreciate your standpoint overall, why put both you and some girl through that awkward situation that is extreme sexual incompatibility. Thanks for being honest too bt… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Nailed it. That combination is highly unlikely in both men and women past a certain age, especially if your thinking of people who are what most would consider to be average-above average looking. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:09 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Ah fair enough, thanks for being honest. Also that last sentence is 100% true, super kinky, super high sex drive pretty virgins are barely even a thing after like their early 20s, (for pretty obvious reasons if people actually bother to think about it lol). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:07 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah I wouldn't want anything to do with a man who couldn't remember how many women he slept with either, that is one gigantic red flag in itself. Someone like that is just extremely unlikely to ever be happy in a monogamous relationship. Also, (no offence intended to anyone who does, everyone is entitled to their preferences) but I really can't understand why any women would think like the bra girl, or that missionary girl lol. Like I'm well aware that women like that exist (I have a few friend… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 06:03 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Good move. Why anyone would create dirty pics/videos with their faces showing for whatever reason is so baffling to me, it's so ridiculously risky. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 05:53 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Aw thanks for this, I'll bear in mind! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 05:50 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough, thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 05:49 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I'm the same with men, the idea of "losing respect" for someone for participating in something you did too makes no sense to me personally, as it doesn't to like 99% of women. I'd be more attracted to a guy who was good in bed, and into the same stuff as me, and I can't understand why anyone would feel otherwise. However I knew many men may feel differently (which is fine by me, they're entitled to their opinions too), hence I asked this question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 05:48 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?And you'd marry and respect a girl like what you described above (obviously provided everything else is right with her lol) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 05:44 PM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?I don't think "where are all the good men" and it's type of thing are in any way equivalent to the red pill/"manosphere" stuff, but I do agree with you to some extent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 05:42 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?What do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:42 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Ahahaha I like how you think lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:41 AM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?Not what I've witnessed tbh, but I appreciate that even these groups aren't necessarily monoliths. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:41 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah such relationships are doomed from the get go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:39 AM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?Also true. Many people do change those behaviours/thought patterns that get them into those situations and go on to find healthy relationships, or at least learn to be happy single. Others don't and obviously that leads to various problems. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:38 AM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Wow that's good to hear. Thanks for being honest too btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/05/21 10:36 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Aw that's good for you then. I can't really relate as I don't have any very rare kinks tbh lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah it is super rare, especially for a younger woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:53 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?That's true, obviously the very high body count women are going to be the ones who are more open to casual sex in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Thanks for being honest! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Again, not as common as you think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I'm glad you see what I mean haha. Also my trust issues and paranoia is way too strong for me to ever even consider letting a guy film us lol, I don't think I'd even say yes to that after like a decade of marriage in case we get hacked or something lmao. That was daring on both of your parts. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:23 PM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?Thanks haha | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:20 PM |
| 0 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?Maybe it's because they know a more experienced woman is often more likely to be able to sniff out their bullshit pretty early on lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:19 PM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?True, but being the type of man/woman who simply attracts cheaters or abusers despite not being any of those things yourself (while that is a problem in itself) is an entirely different thing to being a cheating, or worse abusive man or woman yourself. The two will never be in the same league at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:16 PM |
| 2 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?Careful sis, remember a guy being quieter does not necessarily mean he's a better person, neither are all the more extraverted/popular guys necessarily bad people. Observe how he treats you (and others around him of course) above all else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:11 PM |
| 3 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?I fuck with this on a spiritual level lol. Too many women seem to turn their brains off when it comes to dating, and refuse assistance to turn them back on lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 09:03 PM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?No of course not, that's who I was referring to in the second category. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:59 PM |
| 2 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?Are you trying to say they're both the same thing? Because they are pretty different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:56 PM |
| 1 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?I didn't mean single fathers, I meant the single mothers' exes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:54 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I think those are very fair standards tbh, thanks for being so clear and honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I agree 100%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I wouldn't, I don't personally want the kind of guy who'd look down on me for my body count. A relationship like that probably wouldn't work out anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/05/21 08:49 PM |
| 22 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?Yeah their hatred of single mothers (and ambivalence to the fathers in these situations) is pretty telling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:50 PM |
| 94 | What do women on this sub think of the "where are all the good men gone" types of women?It’s a mixed bag. There’s some who are genuinely pretty problematic personalities themselves, hence they are having trouble finding and keeping a serious relationship. On the other hand, there are many who have wasted years on terrible, doomed relationships with some really awful men, and have now reached a point where most decent men their own age bracket and social class are taken. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:49 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough! Hope you find a girl like that and everything goes well. Thanks for answering all these questions too haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 05:18 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah that makes sense. Also (trying not to shame here but) who on Earth is asking to keep their bra on during sex, or only wanted to do it in one position? Please tell me these girls were virgin teenagers lol. And yeah the last part is near impossible, especially after you cross a certain age group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?That's alright, I'm not judging you or anything (I'll be honest though that I'm definitely judging the woman for refusing to lock the dog in another room while you went at it when you specifically asked her to, she sounds nuts). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 05:08 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yes- in theory- of course a prudish woman, and possibly even a lower libido woman's tastes could gradually change over the course of a relationship. But in practice (particularly when considering women who have crossed their early 20s, and are conventionally pretty), the chance of the woman having a hidden high sex drive and hidden adventurous tastes, but not having had much sex or tried any of those fantasies irl is pretty low. I always had an idea of it, and this post has pretty much confirmed… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 05:03 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I've never heard a guy say he didn't like car sex lol, and I don't get why anyone would dislike it tbh! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 03:57 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah I completely understand not wanting ott kinky stuff ALL the time, especially when you're tired at night after a long day and situations like that lol. And I'm sorry to hear about what happened with your ex too, dw there are other freaky/high libido women out there, they'd probably just have higher counts that her though tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:44 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Well there are guys here saying they wouldn't haha. But thanks for being honest anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:43 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah I can see that's a really common theme here lol. I guess the old saying that most men want a "good girl" who'll be bad only for them has a lot of power in it. Only thing is that is very rare, especially beyond the teens and early 20s, as those women with high drives are unlikely to be virginal, and those with kinky/adventurous tastes are unlikely to have never tried that stuff before. And I know most men love lots of kinky adventurous porn-style sex lol. What I wanted to know was whether a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:42 PM |
| 0 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I get that looking at the comments lmao, but a woman (especially a 23-24+ one) being happy to be having sex very frequently and acting wild/kinky but not having tried any of that stuff before is super rare. If pushed to choose between a virginal/very low count woman who is prudish and has a low sex- drive, or a woman with a medium-high count who is kinkier and has a higher drive, who would you choose for a serious and long term relationship? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I agree with that tbh. Though really extreme stuff like whipping or anything that could draw blood is an absolute no for me lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:28 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah personality is in general the most important thing to me too. Sex (and all the related issues) are probably like third or fourth on the list lol. Also yeah most guys here are saying they'd prefer low body count + adventurous and high drive the most, though that is logically pretty unlikely. Am I right in thinking you'd prefer low count/virgin + prudish/low drive over medium-high count + adventurous/high drive for a serious relationship though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:24 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?That's pretty straightforward and definitely makes sense to me too. Also thanks for the honesty! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:20 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Happy for you guys btw | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:14 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I appreciate the honesty and attention to details here, thanks for this. Further validates my policy of never letting myself get "convinced" into doing stuff I don't like the sound of/I'm not sure about, ditto never dating guys I'm not strongly attracted to. That way anything I'll be doing for any guy is something I actually like doing lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:12 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Ah ok, thanks for being honest. It is rare to see a guy say that though! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:07 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Lol yeah I've never had a guy say they don't like it either, but everyone had different preferences I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:04 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah fair enough, you have a right to your preferences. A relationship with a guy who doesn't like my sexual drive/tastes is unlikely to be a long lasting or happy one anyway, I see that. I was just interested to see the general consensus, and like I've said this isn't something I can go around asking guys I know irl haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?That definitely makes sense. Also just for the record it would be instant cut-off/break-up time for me if I found out that a guy I was talking to liked drinking piss/eating shit, or making women do things like that either lol. And it would sadly be divorce time if my husband tried to convince me to participate in either of those things. He can have fun explaining to everyone why I left lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 02:00 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough, thanks for being honest. Also that slapping thing was definitely not ok. Happy to know you had nothing to do with her after that, | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:54 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Interesting, thanks for being honest haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:48 PM |
| 5 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Ah that's fair enough too, and I agree with those with counts belonging to those with counts. I don't agree with the second part in bold, but maybe we can agree to disagree on that one lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:47 PM |
| 3 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Lmao training? Like a dog? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough. Thanks for being honest as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:45 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?It's really not lol. It's average -a little above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:44 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Just to interject here- this is why I never allowed myself to be "convinced" into sex acts that I don't like the sound of "just for him" the way so many women unfortunately do. It's not only uncomfortable, humiliating, degrading and usually pretty thankless from the guy your doing it with- but judging by not only u/Barely-moral's but also many other guys comments here- it's also going to make other guys want to push to do the same stuff to/with you, the exact number of times he did it in the nam… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:42 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Aw that's nice, hope you find a high sex drive freak haha. Also thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:31 PM |
| 3 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah wanting to have lots of sex doesn't necessarily mean love, neither does having a naturally lower drive or very vanilla tastes (even in the absence of the situations you stated) signal a lack of love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:30 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Lol well there are guys here saying they don't want to get serious with/marry girls who have high libidos, kinky tastes or medium-high body counts, so it's not like what I said was completely crazy lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:25 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Wow. And you'd be satisfied with that super low sex drive and super vanilla sexual taste? And you'd be able to happily stay loyal to a woman like that? If so then good for you haha. Also thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:20 PM |
| 0 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?The number of women that actually have frequent casual sex is pretty low in relation to most of the population anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 01:18 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?That's great! Happy for you both! Also car sex is so good with the right person lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 12:14 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I agree! Though Madonna/whore is much, much more common than af/bb, that's barely even a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 12:13 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?This is the most popular answer so far haha. Of course how you actually feel about the guy is going to make you more open to trusting him enough to do certain things, but I do think especially as you get a bit older, it's unrealistic to expect a woman who likes certain things not to have done them before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 10:22 AM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?So basically your ideal is a woman who is vanilla, but with a high sex drive? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 10:19 AM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Wtf! Allowing pets in the room (let alone NEAR US) during sex would be an instant deal breaker for me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 10:03 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah but that all important first sentence is more often complicated and harder that it seems lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 09:58 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah this is coming up a lot haha. But the fact is, (especially as the years go on), the number of genuinely kinky/high drive women who've never been "like that" with anyone else slowly reduces, as those who are actually into that stuff will have done it already. But like I've asked others- if push comes to shove- which type would you see as more respectable/loveable/wifeable? The more experienced but also more adventurous and high sex drive one, or the inexperienced but super duper vanilla and … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 09:52 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Wow really? And you'd still be able to have those kind of "softer" feelings for her too? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 09:46 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?What do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 09:45 AM |
| 3 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah that does make sense lol. A woman with a double digit body count who is somehow still terrible in bed and a woman who is a virgin but fucks like a pro are both very rare exceptions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:25 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough. While mutual sexual satisfaction is an important part of long term relationships, loving and staying with someone purely for being good in bed (when they are a poor choice for a partner otherwise) is an immature move anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:14 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?I edited it now lol, can you see it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:12 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough. Also those 30+ count people are the exceptions rather than the rule, even among more conventionally pretty/popular women lol. Among the ones who aren't that social/tend to be seen as below average it's hardly even a thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:11 AM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah even I would see certain extreme kinks from a man as red flags, or just plain disgusting lol. And the second bit is surprising to me tbh, I have often been told (mostly by other women) that letting go/being kinkier/having a higher drive makes you more sidechick/fling material in a man's eyes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:06 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?But if push came to shove, would you choose a prudish/pillow princess virgin, or a woman with a count of say 5-10 who is more adventurous for a serious relationship and marriage? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:03 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Interesting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 08:01 AM |
| -1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?And you wouldn't respect her a little less/see her as less "wife material" for it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/05/21 07:59 AM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Would you respect and marry a kinky/adventurous woman with a higher count though? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 07:16 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah this makes sense too, and I get what you mean about casual sex because I'm not personally into it either. However bear in mind that women who are virgins or very low counts like 1-3 (specifically at later ages) are much less likely to be adventurous. Would you be able to respect, care for and marry a more adventurous/kinky woman with a higher count, or would you prefer a virgin or a very low body count woman who is fairly prudish? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 07:15 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah I get that. I think dumping a woman for not being on a similar wavelength sexually is INFINITELY better than cheating later on in the relationship for the same reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Simple and definitely makes sense. But if you had to pick between a virginal girl who is fairly prudish, and a girl with a body count of 5-10 who is more adventurous, who would you rather have for a serious relationship or marriage? Which one would inspire more positive feelings in you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 07:08 PM |
| 3 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Ok yeah that makes sense, thanks for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Would you be ok to marry or have kids with a girl who was into things like what you mentioned though? Also your ex sounds like the exact prototype of what most guys nowadays say they want (super good traditional kind of girl outside the bedroom, super bad girl in it lol), girls like that are rare af, so lucky you haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 05:52 PM |
| 3 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Interesting. I did have a feeling there must definitely be some guys who found girls “un- wifeable” after doing certain things. Thank you for being honest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 05:43 PM |
| 0 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?What do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 05:39 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Yeah that’s fair. Breaking up is always much better than cheating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 05:38 PM |
| 5 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Lmaooo that second part part made me cackle. Though it is a fact that girls who are more open to new things/"kinkier" tend to also have higher body counts, though that is obviously not always the case. Like to put things in perspective, there is a very, very small chance that a super conservative, super religious virgin would be excited to try BDSM or anal, for example. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:52 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Most women aren't having tonnes of casual sex or anything, so I think you'll be fine on that front haha. I actually feel the same too. And yeah I can understand being totally turned off (and even ending things) if a woman suggests something involving piss/shit or worse animal abuse, that stuff is disgusting and I would react the same way, as would most people I'd imagine. I was referring more to losing respect for/becoming suspicious of a woman who had a high drive, or agreed to participate in s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:44 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Fair enough haha, hope you find a woman who feels the same! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:33 PM |
| 1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Lol it is mostly (but not entirely) women, and that too more traditional leaning women lmao. I'm single atm and I don't think it's wise to ask male friends/acquaintances I know irl questions like this, so that's why I decided to put it up here and ask you guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:32 PM |
| 4 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?First bit makes perfect sense, I'd feel the same way as a woman. Major red flag if a guy who's eaten out his exes won't do it with me, for example lmao. And I do agree with the second part in theory as well, but I don't think someone is necessarily being an asshole by refusing to participate in a specific sex act their partner is interested in. And (not suggesting that you were saying that) but this kind of logic does often get used to justify cheating, so it is a kind of tricky area imo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:28 PM |
| -1 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Well that is very surprising to hear from a straight man haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:20 PM |
| 2 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?That is definitely opposite to how a lot of people say men feel, and it is good to hear lol. I hope this is a popular consensus lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:19 PM |
| 0 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?Ah makes sense. Why are you not into high libido women though? Just curious. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:17 PM |
| 3 | Be Honest: Does A Woman Doing Certain Things in The Bedroom Change Your Feelings For Her?So you'd actually start respecting/caring about a girl MORE for being wild in bed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 04:16 PM |
| 1 | Men do care about a woman's occupation. (CMV)Lmao do you actually think those gold diggers are TURNED ON by money!? You've got to be joking surely... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 01:15 PM |
| 3 | NY MAG - Women Are Now Cheating As Much As Men, But With Fewer ConsequencesLooool the truth. I swear these are the same set who claim that it's ok for a man to cheat if his wife says no to sex a couple of times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 12:30 PM |
| 1 | NY MAG - Women Are Now Cheating As Much As Men, But With Fewer ConsequencesThey'd want money I suppose lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 12:25 PM |
| 1 | NY MAG - Women Are Now Cheating As Much As Men, But With Fewer ConsequencesYeah there is no sure fire formula as such for a successful marriage. It's all about what the two individuals are like and how they relate to one another. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 12:20 PM |
| 1 | NY MAG - Women Are Now Cheating As Much As Men, But With Fewer ConsequencesThis is true af. Many people go and marry individuals they have very little "chemistry" with so to speak, just because it's "convenient". These types of situations are naturally very unfulfilling to most, and people who marry mostly for "convenience" generally have lowish morals to begin with- and the perfect breeding ground for infidelity is created. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 12:18 PM |
| 4 | Discussion: top 20%This is the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 12:08 PM |
| 7 | Discussion: top 20%Many of these guys believe this because they constantly aim only for the top 20-30% girls, who are in turn mostly only interested in "top 20-30%" kind of guys. Also it can be used as a coping strategy by some to make themselves feel better about their situations. Because believing that 80% of men are in the same position as them (when that is clearly not the case lmao) not only softens the blow, but also makes them less accountable in their minds for why they're in that position in the first pla… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 12:05 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”OK so first of all. I just want to clarify that I was at no point trying to suggest that most men's standards for a potential partner are overly unrealistic or unreasonable. Because we all know that the great majority of men have managed to have relationships with women they (presumably) considered attractive and "dateable". There is, however a minority of men who do have ridiculously high standards in relation to their own positions, and they naturally end up having a lot of difficulty finding … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/05/21 11:43 AM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Firstly, I'd like to start by apologising for any offence I may have caused you, u/SylvesterTalone, or anyone else who was hurt due to my previous comments. I never intended to attack anyone's moral character. I was simply trying to put my points across in an honest and straightforward way, and maybe I ended up getting a little too blunt in in the process. Sorry for that. But anyway, getting back to the topic at hand. Regarding the contrast you made between self-control and pickiness, I had al… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 05:58 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”The majority of men definitely care about a potential girlfriend (let alone future wife or mother of their children's) social status/life, education and employment. If you genuinely don't care about any of these things, and thing it's all "stupid bullshit", then you are actually in a very, very tiny minority. And did I say men in this thread said those exact words? I was simply saying that having overly high standards in relation to where you stand in life is a sure fire way to make it really di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 05:33 PM |
| 1 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Imo it is pretty abnormal to be blanket opposed to dating anyone in your own age range, regardless of gender/sexuality (a 50+ woman who is exclusively into late teens-early 20s guys would be equally weird/suspect in my eyes). I don't think such a preference says great things about what that person wants out of a romantic relationship in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 04:40 PM |
| 1 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Eww wtf. I swear these old guys either really overestimate their own looks/attractiveness, or our desperation for money. Maybe both. But seriously that kind of behaviour (especially towards a TEENAGER ffs!) is just so gross all round. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 04:34 PM |
| 2 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Exactly lmao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/05/21 04:23 PM |
| 1 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Yes but I still struggle to believe he's being serious! 50+ is old even for their standards as far as I know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Lol not to mention what my family would say, my parents would be so pissed lol. My sister would make sugar daddy jokes non stop. It's literally such a lose-lose situation all round, you would have to be SO greedy for money to do it anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 06:30 PM |
| 3 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Nah I think most men peak in their early-mid 20s in terms of purely physical appearance, same time as women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 06:25 PM |
| 6 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Yeah it would be so fucking obvious you're in it for the money, everyone will know | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 06:18 PM |
| 2 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?This particular post seems almost too troll-like to even be serious though tbh. If OP actually means this, then red pill is one hell of a drug lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 06:11 PM |
| 8 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Yes sis hit them with the facts lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 06:01 PM |
| 1 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?If they are in my age range then sure, but it's hypocritical and a major red flag if they are older themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 06:00 PM |
| 6 | Ladies in their 20s, would you be okay with dating a 50+ year old man(since that’s when men are their hottest for stability?Lol is this a troll post or what!? As a 20 year old woman, OF COURSE I would never even CONSIDER dating a man a whole three decades older than I am! If I want money I'll work hard to make it myself, not stay sleeping with some unattractive older guy I have can't even connect with all my life just for the ££! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 05:56 PM |
| 9 | Just world phenomenon and its consequencesThis sub needs more posts like this tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 05:23 PM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”If we also asked those of them who are married or in relationships about the kind of families their wives/gfs came from, what they earn currently/earned when they met, how much the inherited and how educated they are, I don't think you'd find many couples where the woman was far beneath her husband/boyfriend/partner in more than one of those things, if even that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 05:15 PM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”This this this this. If and when they have what they consider to be a decent amount of options (basically when they know there are quite a few girls they find physically attractive and dateable who are ready to be with them), hardly any man's requirements are as low as some guys here are claiming. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 05:10 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Oh yes they do! Most men absolutely have lists of requirements when it comes to serious relationships. If anything, the average man (with a reasonable amount of options) has somewhat higher requirements regarding looks and personality than the average woman. Some of the guys on this sub who themselves say that they have extremely limited options, no woman they liked has ever liked them back, etc. (basically incels) are not at all an accurate representation of most men or their requirements. And … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 05:01 PM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Nah I think most do care when they want a serious long term relationship. Even in the past when no women (except those who absolutely had to due to being extremely poor) worked outside the home, most men always cared about the woman's familial wealth, "feminine" skills, reputation etc. There was no time when most men cared about nothing but looks and having a half decent personality in a potentially serious, long term partner. And coming back to the present day, if men really don't care about th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 04:48 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”I agree completely that what a woman does for a living and how much she earns may make no difference to how sexually attractive she is to most men. Pure sexual attraction is usually about physical appearance, style, vibe, gestures/talking styles/voices/accents, basically frivolous stuff lol. It's the same for most of us women. But although that kind of purely sexual attraction is very important to any sexual relationship, there is a lot more to a creating a stable, long-lasting, mutually fulfill… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 04:31 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Loooll exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 03:56 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”I'm glad you at least acknowledge that most men definitely do not rate all or even most non-obese women as 5 or above. Contrary to popular beliefs on this sub and similar spaces, actual obesity is actually pretty uncommon among younger women, so the idea that simply being non-obese is such a prized attribute for a woman in her 20s is totally illogical in all ways. But as for there being very few slim women who'd be rated 3 or lower by most men, I disagree with that tbh. I have seen too many skin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 03:52 PM |
| 2 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”I don't know why you're saying no one mentioned virgins or incels, there are literally so many guys right here in the comments section under this very post that we're talking in right now saying they want a virgin, no idea how you've missed it. And sorry but those standards are pretty high in relation to where some guys stand and what they themselves have to offer in a romantic relationship. Asking for an above average looking, slim, educated and/or employed, socially successful, sexually open g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 02:21 PM |
| 1 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?I don't think that applies to the majority, or even a large minority at all. Most guys start dating, and lose their virginities from roughly 16-23. But even for the very small minority who had no luck at all (i.e. found no women with whom they shared mutual liking and attraction) until their 30s or older, why is dating late teens-early 20s girls at that point the answer? Why not date women closer to their own league physically, and in their own age range? They are more likely to find a mutually … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 02:03 PM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.Of course you can minimize the risk by picking better, and vetting better (that's why I personally wouldn't consider marriage until at least two years together). But that said, I disagree completely that victims of cheaters are to blame for the cheating. The cheater is 100% responsible for their own actions, whether said cheater is a man, woman, or anything else, whatever. Only exceptions may be cases where the cheater was forced into marriage, or experiencing severe abuse from their husband/wif… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 01:54 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Ok so there's a lot to unpack here, and I'll start with first things first. When I said any woman who most would consider average, or above average looking who has stayed virgin past a certain age (22-23 or so) would have to have been very, very picky, I meant it in terms of most western cultures today. The pickiness and culture aspect are essentially the same thing. Because as a woman who is mostly seen as a "5" or higher in most 21st century western cultures, you will likely get chatted up/ask… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 11:41 AM |
| 2 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?That is not true at all, there is a significant drop in fertility for men from 40-60. Not to mention that an older father increases the risks for various issues like Down's syndrome and schizophrenia for the foetus/baby, and problems like gestational diabetes for the mother, among others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 10:29 AM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.All of it, because only bad husbands cheat on their wives. But that said, I think we need to remember that a lot of bad people are very good pretenders, and even in cases where they aren't, we can't act like the victims are more to blame than the perpetrators. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/05/21 10:08 AM |
| 3 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”To be more blunt, I’m saying that there are very, very few conventionally average/above average looking and socially active women who’d be single and virgin after like 22 or so. And the few that are there are extremely unlikely to want to date incels or their type, since staying virgin so long with decent looks, a fairly active social life and in the absence of any overly strong religious convictions most often indicates very high standards. And I mentioned virginity because there are guys right… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 10:18 PM |
| 5 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”A very pretty woman with a nice figure who has a decent social life and still managed to be a virgin past her early 20s is very very rare, just like a male counter part of the same would be. Any especially unusual individuals who meet this criteria are naturally going to have extremely high expectations themselves. That’s precisely why their still virgins at that age despite being good looking, fairly popular | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 09:44 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Yeah coming from a dysfunctional family can often make you a terrible partner yourself or a perfect magnet for terrible partners, sometimes both. My parents aren’t separated but they had a pretty terrible marriage with pretty almost everything that can be wrong in a marriage (except physical fights or abuse mercifully), and I do work hard not to end up picking guys like my dad, or being anything like him myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 09:33 PM |
| 16 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Where do I start lol... Ok first of all, when you guys say "slim", I've gathered that this doesn't actually mean just any non obese girl. What's initially implicit (but often comes out later) is that along with being slim, this girl has to be at least what most would consider a 5 (preferably higher) when it comes to her overall appearance. She should also appear reasonably stylish/well groomed, and have decent social skills. I'm not going into the even higher expectations that most actually have… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 07:25 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”I mean relationship value. But tbh even raw sexual attraction isn't always entirely dictated by how tall, ripped or classically handsome a man is. And money certainly has nothing to do with that kind of sexual attraction either. The women that prioritize wealth over pretty much everything (because I'm not denying that there is a minority who are like that), aren't doing so because money turns them on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 06:29 PM |
| 3 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?That definitely sums up most of the incels/borderline incels claiming they are ready to marry and start having kids RIGHT NOW despite being very young, usually having no semblance of financial stability, few essential life skills, not actually being in love with any girl at this point in time and all the other issues. Even many of the older incels/red pill guys fall into this bracket too. It's the lack of options and "well, it's not like there's anything left for me to do now" kind of psychology… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 06:19 PM |
| 1 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Oh yeah I forgot about that particularly absurd hamster thing red pillers pull out when they don’t even have any remotely logical counters left lmao 😭😭 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 05:36 PM |
| 1 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Ok fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 05:28 PM |
| 4 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Exactly! Only people looking for casual flings want nothing beyond looks. Even the older guys hunting for young gold diggers to marry usually want someone submissive, stylish, sexually open etc. There is practically no one who looks for their life partner thinking “meh, as long as they’re sane, healthy and not intolerably ugly or evil, I’ll go for it”. Anyone legitimately thinking like that, needs to realise that they’re a very, very tiny minority, even more so if they’re a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 05:25 PM |
| 3 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?How/why? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:45 PM |
| 8 | Does the manosphere have something against childfree women? If so, why?Bang on. They are frustrated that it's pretty much confirmed that these women won't do whatever they want them to just to get the to marry them/stay married to them "for the kids"/so they can have kids before it's too late. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:43 PM |
| 3 | Does the manosphere have something against childfree women? If so, why?You know what's up lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:40 PM |
| 3 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?So you've got nothing? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:30 PM |
| 5 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”They want the girl who is a quintessential hot babe, but is somehow even less experienced than the below average looking wall flower types, and despite having standards that high, somehow still wants them. And then they're collectively flabbergasted that the maybe one or two girls they each know who are like this don't want them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:25 PM |
| 1 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Literally lmao, or why not just go for his own schlubby late virgin female counterparts if it bothers him so much? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:20 PM |
| 17 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”THIS! So annoying when people seem to think that HVM has to mean super tall, super ripped, super handsome and super wealthy "Chad", nothing more nothing less. When in reality it's such a different concept. Like a guy can be all of the above and still an LVM or even a ZVM in my eyes, and someone can be none of those and still be a very high value man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:15 PM |
| 16 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”I agree, except I'm pretty sure that FDS mostly recognises that HVM can mean different things to different women, unlike most red pillers who insist that all men are biologically wired to love only their personal idea of a HVW and anything else is settling lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:11 PM |
| 17 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”Exactly, their standards are actually pretty high, especially in relation to their own positions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 03:07 PM |
| 51 | There is no such thing as a “High Value Woman (HVW)”This is another one of those posts which just isn't true at all. The majority of men definitely do care about what a potential long term partner earns, what she studied, how her face and body look (and not just that she isn't morbidly obese or tatted/pierced up from head to toe ffs), what kind of family she comes from, what her social life is like, what her personality is like and many more. And as a woman, imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with that! Everyone's free to have standards, and ha… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 02:59 PM |
| 15 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Like u/theoho already said, as the father's age increases, so do the chances of various health issues for the foetus/baby, as well as a few for the mother during the pregnancy as well. And the age that this actually starts to kick in big time is 40, not 50. I won't say too late- (as people can actually be great parents even if older imo, and be around longer for their kids if they take very good care of their health) but yes, even if you're looking at this from a purely biological standpoint- th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 02:45 PM |
| 3 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Yeah that was already the norm among extra educated/ambitious/liberal crowds for like the last couple of decades I think, but now it's basically 70ish% of university educated/middle class guys you'll meet. And yeah people who meet later do typically rush things a bit more which is not ideal but can still go well if you're lucky haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 02:12 PM |
| 1 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?This is the truth. I am sick and tired of people on this sub and elsewhere pretending that someone (most frequently a man) who is ready to "settle" (solely due to a total lack of "better" options) and show basic human decency (only because he feels he can't get laid without doing so) is good partner material. And at the same time, even these conditions applied by the incels themselves are only applicable to "settling" with a girl who is very likely well out of their league by most standards anyw… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 10:43 AM |
| 5 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Preach!! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 10:35 AM |
| 12 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Guys who are open to marrying or having kids in their early-mid 20s are definitely a minority among more affluent, college educated white people. Very very desperate guys within that demographic who are especially unattractive/unsuccessful in the eyes of most, (and therefore have hugely limited options) so are ready to do anything (including getting engaged at 21 or something) to pull and secure a girl they find hot are actually a tiny minority. And even many of those guys (especially like 90% o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 10:28 AM |
| 21 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?That’s only because a very big chunk of those guys are actually single in their 30s (if not older) themselves, but want nothing to do with women in their own age range. They’re pissed off that the late teens-early 20s hotties they’re after don’t want to drop all their ambitions, marry them, morph into a submissive traditional housewife by day-Brazzers pornstar by night combo and start popping out their 10-15+ years older self’s babies before it’s too late for him 💀 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 09:33 AM |
| 32 | What do people mean when they say women don’t want to settle down until they are 30 or ‘old’?Yes, especially among the more university educated, middle class white (as opposed to working class or minority) guys. Like 70% of them are so vehemently against marriage or kids before at least 26-27. Literally anyone that’s interacted with this demographic in recent times would know this lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 09:00 AM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.Oh yeah, genuine abuse of the legal system in that context is terrible when it does happen. It's just that it's a LOT less common than many people (including "manosphere" guys, but also some "anti-feminist" women and others) make it out to be. The chances of a man not being abusive, doing a fair division of responsibilities, not cheating and still not only having his wife file for divorce but also walk away with unfair amounts of his resources are seriously low, and anyone who is aware of the re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 07:30 AM |
| 2 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.Irreconcilable differences can mean a bunch of different things, it is both blatantly biased and completely divorced from reality itself to claim that that term just means "she wanted to jump on some strange". And the rest is honestly even more biased and further away from facts. You sound like the type of person who thinks men get abused in relationships more than women do lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.What else could expecting girls who most people would describe as being well out of your league in multiple ways to want to date you just because you showed some basic human decency be attributed to, if not internalised sexism? And why would the girls most would consider to be around average, (let alone below that) be having anything to do with super rich "Chads" in the first place?? Most women, and men actually date in their league, or thereabouts. Those who refuse to do so often don't date at … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/05/21 07:16 AM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.What do you mean? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 09:27 PM |
| 1 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Yeah I’m similar tbh, except all friends/acquaintances and even boyfriends/guys I “talked to” were people I met through school, college, university, mutual friends or meeting other groups of friends as a group of friends. This is why having at least some degree of a social life is considered so important, not having one makes it legit really hard to date along with making life a lot more boring in general for most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?If you mean random casual sex and one night stands then yeah, it’s definitely more true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:29 PM |
| 5 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.Statistics have proved that male cheating and abuse are among the most common reasons for divorce though tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.Literally. It is fairly easy for an average looking woman to find an average looking guy to have a relationship with. The world isn't all crazy incels with sky high standards and Chads who only want Staceys ffs, and if it's looking like that to someone then it's time to get off reddit and take a walk lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:12 PM |
| 2 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.This! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:05 PM |
| 3 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.Finally someone said something about that particularly disgusting analogy regarding divorce, thank you so much. I agree with everything else you put too, except many guys on this sub do constantly blame women who get abused claiming it's all their own fault for choosing "Chads", even in cases where that is glaringly false. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.Very true. The idea that it's just "hot party girls" who get most of their clothes from Fashion Nova and have high Snapchat scores who make bad partners or are bad people in general reeks of "not like other girls" psychology, which is built entirely with bricks of jealousy and bitterness, without the basic foundation that is common sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Divorce rape and other horror stories are men who decide to marry party sluts ' own fault.It is true that confident, conventionally good looking, and wealthier/higher earning people in general (of any gender/sexuality) tend to have higher standards for a potential partner. And it is also true that due to their internalised sexism often combined with a certain type of entitlement and self-unawareness, a lot of men (particularly, but not exclusively those into the red pill ideology) fail to compute this fact, and struggle to understand why the hot popular girl types they want to be wit… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 05:30 PM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?Nah if this is the whole 80/20 Chad thing then as a woman I can tell you that that entire concept is completely untrue. Top 20% Chads don't have casual sex with, or date most averageish (let alone below average) looking women. And most average looking, overall average women (like the 60-70% within that group) aren't even trying legit casual sex, and the out of the ones that do most would only do it once or twice. I think you're doing alright if you've secured relationships with women who you fou… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 04:48 PM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?Well most women don't, so it's not that easy to get for any guy tbh. But I appreciate that "success" in the world of relationships can mean many different things, depending on what you actually want, which obviously varies from person to person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 04:30 PM |
| 1 | There is a power dynamic in heterosexual intercourse. Sex for women requires more physical AND EMOTIONAL vulnerability.Yeah you're bang on about many having unaddressed trauma from rape/sexual abuse, especially considering that most victims don't even report, let alone getting extensive counselling/therapy, etc. to help them truly recover. But those people claiming all straight sex is rape and that kind of nonsense are clearly completely crazed, I don't think that should even be up for debate lmao. The really sad thing though is that that brand of bullshit results in rape being trivialised to a point where genui… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 04:29 PM |
| 1 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Wanting the money/security does not mean they find them more physically attractive. I mean there are exceptions who legitimately have a thing for older guys but they are pretty rare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 03:17 PM |
| 2 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Those guys are celebrities, they look no more like most middle aged men irl than women like Jennifer Jopez look like most 50 year old women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 03:14 PM |
| 2 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?So true. Their best bet if they actually want a meaningful, long lasting serious relationship is to go for women in their own age range, who many don't want due to their sexist double standards, as well as fears of being "seen through". To justify this, these guys convince themselves (and attempt to convince others) that women all hit the wall and naturally stop being physically attractive to men after 25-30, and men only start becoming attractive to women after 30 (I've heard some state even hi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 03:06 PM |
| 2 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Lmao literally... And it sounds especially ridiculous if they're talking about really young girls like 18-21! Like I am in that age group right now and it is not considered normal to date late 20s (let alone even older) guys at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 02:56 PM |
| 1 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Except most guys actually have no problem getting relationships in their 20s? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 02:47 PM |
| 1 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?I don't think OP was referring to the majority, but rather the minority who are still single (and presumably never been married/had kids) in their 30s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 02:44 PM |
| 0 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?I think in their 30s specifically a lot of guys who are still single, never been married and childless at that point are the ones that simply don't want to ever do those things at all, or think they still have plenty of time to do them. Even many of the divorced/separated guys belong to the same category, as their cheating is often what caused the split, and they feel being loyal and fully committed to one woman is too much effort When you get to 40s or even 50s for some though I think the situa… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 02:39 PM |
| 5 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Lol yep not to mention older single guys seem to be far more problematic in general, (especially among those who weren't highly ambitious) even if you look at the ones that actually do want marriage. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 02:24 PM |
| 1 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?This! In fact I think most women everywhere avoid strangers they meet in random places like that lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 02:14 PM |
| 3 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Loool you did not mince words | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 02:02 PM |
| 2 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?Lmfao | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 01:59 PM |
| 3 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?This right here is the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Most women want something serious once they are above 30 while men want nothing serious when above 30. Why?In my view, the premise of this post is both partly true, and partly untrue. I think it is completely true that men generally want to settle down, i.e. live in/marry/have kids later than women do on average. However, the reasons for that, from what I can see, are entirely different to what OP is saying. First of all, as a young woman who was 18 not long ago, I can confirm that the vast majority of 18 year old girls (and by that I mean 80-90%) do not have relationships with older men at all, be t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 12:20 PM |
| 1 | Are relationships business transactions?Unless there is anything particularly unbelievable, I do trust most of the things I read here tbh, from both sides. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 11:42 AM |
| 1 | There is a power dynamic in heterosexual intercourse. Sex for women requires more physical AND EMOTIONAL vulnerability.Yeah most of women's vulnerabilities are a result of social attitudes/conditioning that actual biology, especially considering modern medicine/contraception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 11:21 AM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?Wow that is pretty surprising. But getting LTRs with at least half of the girls you expressed interest in is reasonable success tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 10:12 AM |
| 1 | Are relationships business transactions?If it’s so easy to find (and keep) popular hotties with below ground level expectations, why do red pill/incel men struggle so much with finding relationships and making them last? FDS women on average have pretty much all had relationships in the past, and the tiny minority that haven’t are doing so totally out of choice, nothing “involuntary”. If we are all so undateable, why is virtually no one on FDS actually “struggling” to get dates as such? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 10:04 AM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?I’d say both Jacob and Noah are 7-8s but I find Noah a lot more attractive /hotter personally lol. And it’s fine I don’t mind questions like this haha. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 09:49 AM |
| 1 | There is a power dynamic in heterosexual intercourse. Sex for women requires more physical AND EMOTIONAL vulnerability.Like I said before, I already included women who had been raped in the past, I know it’s perfectly normal for them to feel that way considering their background. And if someone has been raped and is afraid of/disgusted by sex as a result then that IS a massive cause for concern, they need therapy for sure. Also the majority of women definitely haven’t been raped. Neither do they actually dread/despise sex for any other reason, so feeling that way is of course reasonable/understandable in certain… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 09:39 AM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?How? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:52 AM |
| 2 | There is a power dynamic in heterosexual intercourse. Sex for women requires more physical AND EMOTIONAL vulnerability.This is sadly true though tbh. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/05/21 06:51 AM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?That is very very unusual for someone with such an active social life and (I'm assuming a decent number of female friends or at least acquaintances as a result). Maybe you were somewhat oblivious to hints and girls liking you in general (as many girls can be quite indirect compared to guys)? But I'm sure you would have met with some success when you approached girls yourself at least, right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 06:28 PM |
| 0 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?I am a 20 year old woman a with quite a few female friends of my age group, and many of them (especially those who are averageish 5s/6s themselves, like the majority of girls) are constantly crushing on averageish looking guys (who are also the majority too btw) and having relationships with them. A guy who is actually considered a 5 by most people (and isn't just calling himself that when most would see him as a 2 or 3), and doesn't have a blatantly weird/awful personality should have no proble… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 06:20 PM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?Apologies if this comes off sounding nasty, that really is not my intention at all. But do you have an especially inactive social life, or interact very, very little with girls for whatever reason? Because unless that is the case, I can't see why any guy who is actually average looking by his society's standards would NEVER get ANY hints or girls interested in him in general. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 06:08 PM |
| 1 | Are relationships business transactions?As for relationships being transactions, my answer is both yes and no. Romantic relationships ARE transactional in the way that damn near everything in the world is- be it employment, business, friendships and even familial relationships with our parents or siblings, it is all ultimately transactional to some extent. Even our relationship with strangers on the street is transactional if you look at it one way- most of us behave politely and respectfully towards them, with the hope that they will… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 05:39 PM |
| 3 | Are relationships business transactions?I'm an "FDSer" so to speak too, and here's my take on this: First of all, I do think that "SMV" is definitely a thing- in every country, every culture, everywhere. It is a fact that being conventionally good looking, being socially successful, and having a better financial situation can and do inevitably make it easier for people to find partners, especially partners who have one or more of those qualities themselves. However, for a successful long term relationship, a lot of other factors come … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 04:56 PM |
| 1 | Are relationships business transactions?Except most (roughly 60-70ish%) of conventionally pretty/hot and socially successful women in the modern western world are actually not pick me, not to the extent that red pillers and their ilk would want anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 04:26 PM |
| 1 | Financial stability is about to become the biggest obstacle in an already chaotic dating market, particularly for young adults.Yeah that is another factor. Guys with more confidence (including both good guys and assholes) are much more likely to openly pursue the women they are interested in. If said confidence is combined with at least average-above average looks, good social skills and a decent personality (or enough intelligence to at least fake it during the early stages in the case of the assholes), this is obviously followed by a good amount of success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 12:18 PM |
| 2 | Financial stability is about to become the biggest obstacle in an already chaotic dating market, particularly for young adults.Yeah and I'd like to add because most of us also don't want guys who actually want to be assholes/abusers but don't do it purely because they can't do it, or are scared of the consequences, as opposed to feeling it's wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 12:11 PM |
| 0 | Financial stability is about to become the biggest obstacle in an already chaotic dating market, particularly for young adults.Literally lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 12:05 PM |
| 1 | Financial stability is about to become the biggest obstacle in an already chaotic dating market, particularly for young adults.Yeah most people have always gone for people of similar financial/educational levels to themselves anyway, so that will most likely continue as normal. But yeah what we define as "rich", "poor" and everything in between will sadly change, and not for the better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 11:50 AM |
| 0 | Financial stability is about to become the biggest obstacle in an already chaotic dating market, particularly for young adults.I feel socialism mainly fails because of excluding democracy from the picture tbh. Actual socialism along with actual democracy would be so good, but barely any countries have that sadly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 11:42 AM |
| 4 | Financial stability is about to become the biggest obstacle in an already chaotic dating market, particularly for young adults.This is one of the best posts I've ever seen here. The financial/economic situation right now is the only genuine deterrent to sane, decent people who want to marry/have kids, and SHOULD be marrying/having kids (because they have found a genuinely healthy, loving relationship where both parties want to do so, or are willing to adopt alone), actually doing so. The other social/cultural reasons people constantly state on this sub and elsewhere are only standing in the way of people who probably sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 11:24 AM |
| 2 | Financial stability is about to become the biggest obstacle in an already chaotic dating market, particularly for young adults.In what country is average male height so tall?? Average male height in the U.K., and in America is 5"9 as far as I know. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 11:22 AM |
| 0 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?Not in western society. Also even people of non western backgrounds living in the west don't actually have to comply with forced marriages of any type either, the law is on their side. Hell those kinds of marriages are very much illegal even in India now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 11:05 AM |
| 9 | Why should a woman have sex with you? What do you have to offer her?THIS. Also if people were (and still are) marrying just to get subsistence, have sex (without being a dirty sinner who's boycotted by society, maybe even punished if exposed), get a free cook/cleaner, because they are getting "too old to be single" or purely to have a family (because that may be very frowned upon or even illegal without marriage): whether we're talking about some non-western societies currently, or western countries in the past- why is that such a great thing? It is all around v… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 10:51 AM |
| 2 | CMV: In regards to the bottom 90% of people, women are the gatekeepers of both casual sex and relationshipsThe problem is that they usually can't find many women up for it, unless they pay them (directly or indirectly lol). Young girls who legit have a thing for older guys, want to settle down with one and aren't just in it for the money are pretty rare, just like the reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 10:39 AM |
| 1 | The real reason some women are against porn, prostitution and pick mes has nothing to do with protecting their fellow women. It has to do with monopolising sexual pleasureBirth rates going down compared to the pre contraception/abortion/socially expected early marriage days doesn't mean men aren't giving attention to women at all lol. And anyway who cares? It's better that people learn to be happy single than be like incels, or some of the women who are so scared of being single that they tolerate cheaters, abusers and generally completely toxic relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 10:34 AM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?4s would be Aziz Ansari and Seth Rogan imo. And 6s off the top of my head would be Dave (British rapper), and Nohail Nazeer (British actor) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 10:01 AM |
| 0 | The real reason some women are against porn, prostitution and pick mes has nothing to do with protecting their fellow women. It has to do with monopolising sexual pleasureThere is no country on Earth where men don’t give much attention to women lmao. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/05/21 09:32 AM |
| 3 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)Yeah that is true, it can be very attention catching if he mentions it in his bio, or takes pics where his height shows. Also as long as the guy doesn’t look too awkward/weird in the pics themselves or sound too weird when they message, lack of confidence/poor demeanour is less of an issue on social media or dating apps. And there’s very little room for a guy to be considered “weird by association” or anything lol, as there’s not so much of a way to tell if he hangs with dorks/weirdos or is a to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 10:41 PM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?Probably Andy Samburg or Dev Patel | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 10:32 PM |
| 3 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)What do you consider average looking then?? Care to give any examples? Genuinely curious now lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 10:17 PM |
| 1 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?What? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 05:17 PM |
| 4 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)I do see your point tbh, but as a woman I can tell you that being THAT tall (though usually preferable to being very very short) isn’t seen as such a good thing in itself by most. It’s kind of similar to being a very strictly average looking girl who’s face and figure are otherwise really ordinary and having H cups for you guys lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 05:16 PM |
| 8 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)6”7 is seen as better than being 5”2 by most women, but being 6”0 or 5”10 is generally seen as much better than both of those extremes. Being overly tall like that is seen by pretty much most women the same way most men would probably see J cup boobs. Overkill to the point where the overall effect isn’t great lol. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 04:58 PM |
| 2 | What do you bring to the table?I don’t think you’re standards are that far from most men’s, you’re just being more upfront and honest about them than a lot of guys on this sub tbh. My standards as a woman are also pretty much the same. Also as an above average guy, the type of girls your most into are probably actually attainable to you as well, which definitely changes the picture. And I’ll admit that (definitely not all) but part of the motivation to maintain yourself and make an effort to look good when you step out/post p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 04:49 PM |
| 0 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)Extremely low. And being that tall isn't even viewed especially positively by most women lol, especially if he doesn't have the body to fill it out, as someone else here rightly said. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 04:32 PM |
| -3 | [Q4Women]How often do you think the average guy gets hints/hit on?I think averageish (5-6) guys would get hints quite a lot, and mostly from other conventionally averageish looking (5-6), or "cute" (7) girls. A lot of conventionally below average/unattractive girls would probably be very into him too, but usually don't say anything as he's seen as being out of their league by most. They may get legit hit on occasionally, mostly by girls from the first group and second groups, and very rarely by girls from the third who feel they have a chance for whatever reas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 04:28 PM |
| 5 | 28 yo kissless virgin guy tries online dating and has instant success! (how common is it for men to be unaware of their SMV ?)He is legit an average looking guy who presumably learnt how to have confidence/hold conversations, and visibly how to groom/present himself as well lol. Totally disproving all the bullshit 80/20 nonsense on this sub and elsewhere. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/05/21 02:54 PM |
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