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GorillaJ/r/seduction27/07/11 07:47 AM
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Which really just makes showing vulnerability to be an element of perfect game; if you're coming across robotic you're doing it wrong.
/r/seduction03/06/14 03:40 AM
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Escalate to the extent required to incapacitate your attacker. If you misjudge that, it's a shame, but their fault for initiating violence; don't lose sleep over it. If that means a heavier hit than they delivered, absolutely give a heavier hit -- they've struck you and indicated a willingness to hurt you. You don't know what they'll do next, what sort of good or lucky hit they'll get in, what they might grab. If you hit me (you being anyone, with a few exceptions; I'm not hitting a five year ol…
/r/MensRights26/12/13 01:54 PM
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What you're arguing isn't what the numbers show. They controlled for those things and it's hardly the only time it's been shown men face harsher sentencing (and more likely sentencing) than women do.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 06:30 AM
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Men going to jail is now the fault of women, because we are all gold diggers. Got it. Not necessarily that you're gold diggers, but that men believe wealth and success are necessary to attract a mate. Whether they are or not is less important than whether they're believed to be or not.
/r/MensRights21/12/13 06:27 AM
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It's never, ever, ever just you for anything. Ever. Not even once. But that doesn't mean it's common, either. The fact is, a lot of openers are cheesy. They're silly, non-threatening, a little comical. They're just a way to.. well, open. What you do after that is important. If using a canned opener helps you actually interact with a woman, that alone is going to improve your success rates more than thinking up original fantastic material that keeps you on the sidelines revising and second-guessi…
/r/seduction09/11/13 07:01 PM
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You come off painfully insecure in nearly every facet of your life. You rush to portray yourself as fantastic and impressive due to your accomplishments, but what do we care? You hammer in how much better than this other guy you are on paper, and then obsess over this issue.. I wouldn't even worry about game, dude, you don't really need game. You can't hide how much you look down on yourself with cocky plays. Figure out why you're so down on yourself and work on that.
/r/seduction13/10/13 09:12 PM
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He's not incorrect that marriage is something of a bad idea for most men, but he could stand to present his point better.
/r/MensRights30/09/13 07:52 PM
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Not my experience in the slightest. Canned stuff is contextually blind and without personality because you're speaking in someone else's voice.
/r/seduction15/09/13 02:36 PM
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Like I said -- I find the "concepts and lines" outer game is about to be useless if not counterproductive.
/r/seduction15/09/13 03:27 AM
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I found outer game to be pretty useless as a concept, myself. Canned lines, pre-planned responses or gestures or activities -- can't focus on that shit, I don't got the brainpower, the more I think about what I'm saying the less I have to say. I'm my best with people when I relax, feel good, and do what comes naturally to me. I'm sure outer game helps someone, but I find it counterproductive. Good outer game arises naturally from good inner game.
/r/seduction15/09/13 02:48 AM
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"People like something I don't like; they must be filthy neckbeards."
/r/seduction14/09/13 11:45 PM
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I just went reading through some of AskFeminists' threads. What an unpleasant place.
/r/MensRights02/09/13 01:36 PM
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A tactic is merely an action designed to result in a specific outcome and lacks any moral value. A trick is, in the modern vernacular, basically the same thing, absent the malevolent undertones it used to have -- "Check out this trick to tie your shoelaces quicker" was a thing around Reddit a few weeks back, and no one's worried their laces were being mistreated. What's the point of trying to demean OP for posting a fun interaction he had good fortune with?
/r/seduction24/11/12 10:16 PM
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That's.. not really a healthy way to view the world, BDSM, or other people, dude.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 08:57 AM
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Many people know it exists. There are entire communities devoted to trolling Reddit for just such content. Yet it never, ever has received the flak the male-oriented sites have. You want to label me biased because that irritates me? Go ahead. The Twilight mom phenomenon is just another example of it; it's viewed as harmless when women are sexual predators, whether it's teachers, cougars, or creepers. I don't approve of that, and your attempt to suggest the situations are equal like you did in yo…
/r/MensRights17/11/12 03:27 AM
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And look, creepshots got banned, Reddit has a reputation for "pedophilia", and everyone shit talks them. The ladies, meanwhile, are empowered. No one ever says a bad word about the lesbian creepshot subreddit, ever notice? It's the exact same material as the male one, but it's okay because they're chicks.
/r/MensRights17/11/12 01:48 AM
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If a girl texted me, "also, would you still want to go if we went as just friends?" I would text her back something like, "Depends. How good do you look in a skirt and heels?" I would probably throw in at least one other sexual comment so that she knows I'm not there to be her friend. If she's still up for the date, I would go on it. The correct answer to this is "Depends on the benefits.".
/r/seduction13/11/12 03:00 AM
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At no point has seddit advocated crushing strangers with bear hugs. Admittedly, if I saw it happen it'd be hilarious.
/r/MensRights27/10/12 02:24 AM
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I don't really care about the constitution as a whole, no. I care about the parts I agree with that are beneficial to me and would gladly fuck the rest. I don't really get behind ideology or symbolism. It's a legal document, so when the laws are ones I support, cool.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 09:29 PM
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I read through posts quickly and reply to the parts that grab me.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 09:20 PM
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okay?
/r/MensRights25/10/12 08:33 PM
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By your logic all the liberals should have moved back to Great Britain by now. Not really. I approve of government. Not all its choices, but I don't want to strip it down to the bone, nor take away its power. I want it to be mighty, be able to bear down on harmful individuals, provide a social safety net, make freely available a number of modern life necessities, etc., etc.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 08:32 PM
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Did I tell you I'm a libertarian? I've been voting to rush away from it ever since I understood what it was. Nice try though. But not actually leaving it. Your token vote while you continue to take full advantage of the system does little but make you a hypocrite. Take a stand -- do more than provide libertarian lip service.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 08:15 PM
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I never signed your make believe social contract, and I never agreed to be a part of this society. But you've relied on it your entire life and are in no rush to get away from it, I'm sure. Society does best when each individual within it does their best. That's delightfully incomplete. Society does best when each individual within it does their best.. for themselves and society. Absolute self-interest at the expense of others doesn't help, overall.
/r/MensRights25/10/12 10:24 AM
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What's the point of working harder to expand my business, make more money, and hire more people, if you're just going to take all my extra profits and give it to the people who were dealt a bad hand, made bad decisions, or are just lazy? There is no way you have ever paid taxes remotely close to draining all your profit, and nice job ignoring the only reason you have any success whatsoever is because of all those people who paid taxes and helped provide the framework for your entire life from bi…
/r/MensRights25/10/12 10:21 AM
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This is my favorite part of that entire post: especially given the fact that if you refuse the postnuptial and your husband becomes your ex, you will get a much larger chunk of his assets. but.. You say you have loved your life with your husband, without adding, “Despite his being a cold-hearted monster.” ... maybe he’s decided to try to be the next J. Paul Getty—a rich, despised miser. It's good for her to cheat him out of as much wealth as possible. Prudence supports this! But him wanting to k…
/r/MensRights18/10/12 01:16 AM
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So the point is, gawker wrote a piece saying "look, Reddit is hosting unsavory content that violates privacy and decency, So far as I remember, creepshots forbade upskirt shots due to the questionable legality of them, and the mods strove to remove them when alerted to them. The pictures also could not be taken from places where one would have an expectation of privacy -- they had to be public pictures, what anyone walking down the street could see. Meaning no violation of privacy was allowed, a…
/r/MensRights16/10/12 10:30 PM
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Well, okay. That never required explanation. People are allowed to just not like things! I don't like styrofoam.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 07:28 AM
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Yes, it is most assuredly rude to do something someone doesn't like, at least when not doing it doesn't harm you in any way. It's like popping bubble gum after someone asks you to cut it out, just inconsiderate. But inconsiderate is different from creepy or unethical. Unless they're invading your home, or a bathroom, or using a shoe-cam to get upskirt or something similar.. you might not like it, but no one is seeing anything people weren't seeing anyway.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 07:20 AM
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I'm not concerned with being impolite. If someone walking down the street is allowed to see it, it's fair game so far as pictures. There is no meaningful difference to me between someone getting the ability to look me up and down on the sidewalk vs someone looking me up and down on a sidewalk in a photograph.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 06:46 AM
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I am comfortable with the internet seeing any bit of me I flaunt when I have no reasonable expectaction of privacy, yes. Do you want a picture of my butt? I'll throw some jeans on and pose for you.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 06:43 AM
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And? One's wants are not inherently deserving of respect or ethical to adhere to. It takes more than desire. Explain to me what someone is seeing that's inappropriate that you're not showing off to everyone in person.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 06:35 AM
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You're going to have to explain it. No one is seeing anything in the picture they wouldn't see on the street.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 05:14 AM
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There isn't, though. What those people are seeing are things anyone can see, because you are in a public place and already exposing all of that to sight. You do not have the expectation of privacy while out and about. You are seen by many people every day. You are seen by many people more than once every day. If it is unacceptable to see it in a picture, you really should not be leaving the house, because public indecency can get you in trouble.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 04:30 AM
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If you're walking in public with visible dick bulge, tens, hundreds, thousands or more have seen it and you -- and they quite possibly see it daily, or multiple times in that day. There is no picture of you in public that can be taken that reveals something everyone around you couldn't already see. You want to avoid that? Don't let the undeniable girth of your great white impress itself on the eyes of those you encounter and no one will think to take a picture.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 04:18 AM
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What you do is get a 10-sided die and assign each face a point value equal to the number on it. Roll this die a dozen times, add up the results, and then divide by the number of times you rolled. If, in the next two rolls, your cumulative total is higher than this number, respond sincerely. Or, you know, flip a coin. If you're a bitch.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 04:07 AM
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Forever remain in private areas, then. That is a right you have, though it may make life inconvenient.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 03:54 AM
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If this picture is taken of you in a context where your consent is required or expected (that is to say, a private one), I absolutely agree. If it's just a picture of you in general, though, in public.. Why the fuck do you care? Everyone you met that day saw you. They might have masturbated to you. They might imagine drowning your delightfully masculine (or feminine, whatever, don't know who you are) face in their horrible sin cream. You can't do anything about it and it's never hurt you.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 03:09 AM
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There's a world of difference. No one has the right to not be fantasized or looked at, especially in a private setting. If you show me a picture of yourself I will put my hand on my dick right now. Then I'll close your picture and envision you in my mind's eye doing all manner of filthy things to you! At no point have I actually hurt you or violated a right you have. I have crossed no moral or ethical boundaries, and what I get off to, provided no one is being unwillingly hurt by it, is anyone e…
/r/MensRights16/10/12 02:48 AM
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Well, in the case of masturbating at home and masturbating in public, there's the rather severe difference of not exposing yourself publicly.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 02:27 AM
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i don't care how obnoxious she was being, that doesn't give the driver the right to walk up and uppercut her in an act of clear retaliation. You're completely right! Had she just been obnoxious, he would have kept his hands off her. Unfortunately, she escalated from being obnoxious to physically attacking him, at which point uppercutting her and removing her was justified.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 06:42 AM
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using violence against your passenger is justifiable because it was against a woman. This comment has more spin than those awesome chairs in doctor's offices that make you really dizzy. It was justifiable to use violence against an aggressor because you were protecting yourself from harm and belligerent assault.
/r/MensRights15/10/12 06:40 AM
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All bars and clubs are sexist on the female side. It's a part of the game and it's just business nothing personal. That's really poor justification for discrimination. It can be applied to too much.
/r/MensRights12/10/12 03:47 AM
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The idea that people are mechanistic and that manipulation is the best way to build a relationship are the two undercurrents around here that I absolutely resent. And in my experience, are mostly wrong. Amusingly, humans are very mechanistic. Not entirely so, but there's a very large amount of click, whirr reactions humans have, a tape played just so when the correct buttons are pressed. Manipulation is also the core of all interaction, though we don't tend to think of what we do as manipulation…
/r/seduction12/04/12 11:43 AM
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Every girl I wind up with has odd taste in music and a strong submissive streak. The latter's good, but the former.. As for why you're noticing this: the redhead part is just dumb luck. You're successful with them because you go after them and it works out, feeding future confidence when approaching new redheaded women. The qualities they name about you are almost assuredly qualities attractive in men to most women, the hue of their hair irrelevant. If you're finding the women have similar perso…
/r/seduction12/04/12 11:17 AM
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As much as I like the seduction community, it's painfully obvious that the less experienced members of it are too eager to apply what they've learned and can't see what's right in front of them because of it. This is not a shit test. She's not checking if you're congruent. You're friends and you're trying to change the relationship's dynamic timidly. Too timidly for her to actually know what's going through your mind. She's not testing you, not looking for incongruities. You have not been sexual…
/r/seduction28/03/12 08:49 AM
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So you strive to embody the caricature of the sexist feminist? I can see how it'd work; enough members of /r/MensRights have been burned by it that when shown such a negative example they'll have a pretty visceral reaction. Still, it seems almost.. too easy to be worthwhile. Like trolling Muslims with pictures of Muhammad.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 05:15 PM
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Dude you're hilarious, teach me how to troll gender-oriented subreddits as well as you do.
/r/MensRights23/03/12 10:01 AM
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I won't pretend to understand what makes a lot of those forumites tick, but I will say the winning move is to not care. They think you're evil and amoral. So? Are you happy with yourself? Are the people in your life happy for having you there? If so, let the world think the worst of you.
/r/seduction14/03/12 09:41 AM
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You didn't want a constructive discussion. You chose to come here and insult the group with a paper-thin "no offense" tacked on. Had you been interested in polite conversation, you would have strove to avoid all accusatory and derogatory remarks (yes, let's open up a dialogue by calling this group creepy and mentioning how undesirable you find them). Don't be a little bitch, dude. Own up to your assholishness and relax, because no one here is worried about what you think.
/r/seduction26/02/12 07:52 PM
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Why would anyone be angry that you've got a negative opinion? While other people are shouldering the responsibility of explaining things to you (see bolxrex's post), I'm just pointing off that you're a complete stranger nobody here knows or cares about. You don't need to be so worried about pissing us off.
/r/seduction26/02/12 05:44 PM
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Alice decides to kill the baby. I do not have a say in the matter. If Alice ever murders her baby, she will be imprisoned. You can't kill cute lil kids.
/r/MensRights10/02/12 08:11 PM
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People make up all sorts of things, to various degrees. I'm not keen on guessing why or what your degrees are. :D
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:47 AM
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It's nothing personal, I'm sure you're a great person. You've been nice to me, after all. But between claims of ugliness when you're handsome, claims of social awkwardness paired with a god-like record with women, attendance at parties, hanging with tough crowds, etc., and your generally hard-to-swallow claims of success and utter lack of any concrete game or things you do (apparently, sex just happens to you, and sometimes you take off your shirt and she just gushes)... You sound like a pretend…
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:42 AM
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I'll wear my stretch marks proudly when they're all that's left. Wouldn't want to forget where I came from, after all. For now, focused on getting rid of the actual stretch, not worried about the marks later.
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:38 AM
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Glad you've lost weight dude. o_O that can really help your game. This double thread thing is confusing. I lost sixty pounds, but I'm still fat and working on it. I've gone from super fat to fat. It's a nice change, but a long way from being able to look myself in the eye without hating it.
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:34 AM
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Look, you're friendly enough so I like you, but I don't actually believe anything you're saying. Let's avoid tips and stick to unrelated chat :D
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:33 AM
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Unfortunately, we have nothing but your word to go on, and one man's word on the internet is worthless. If you were ugly and successful -- and I don't believe you were, but if you were -- then congratulations, you've got something that eludes the vast majority of men out there, myself included. If you want to see ugly man, you should check out my pre-weight loss pictures ;)
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:21 AM
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Yeah having looked at your picture you are not in any way, shape, or form, ugly or unattractive; you are a good looking man.
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:15 AM
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The thing is, I can't. And I don't need to. I've said more about this in another comment, but once you've picked out the right girl, you basically ignore her until the two of you are alone together, and then you bang the shit out of each other. That's how it works. With everything you've said, I call bullshit, and leave you to it.
/r/seduction10/02/12 03:11 AM
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If you're capable of making your intent to bang known in a way that doesn't give off rapist vibes, you have no right calling yourself socially awkward. I'm also doubting you're anywhere near as unattractive as you suggest, and your lack of offering a picture supports this suspicion of mine. You seem like you just want to come here and have us affirm your awesomeness for you. So, let's get it over with, I'm in a giving mood. Put your hand on the monitor, brosef. Press firmly. Firmer. Good, just l…
/r/seduction10/02/12 01:56 AM
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hahahaha
/r/seduction01/02/12 11:13 PM
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My reason for staying back is that I didn't want to seem to needy This attitude is the insecurity women will pick up on. You're worried about coming across some way. If you're not that way, it's a non-issue. Behave like you wish to and own it. Who cares if you 'seem' needy? It's a vague label, and not one easily quantifiable in any concrete terms. Enjoy yourself, be confident in what you do, and if someone interprets that as needy, cling to them sobbing desperately as you choke out pleas for the…
/r/seduction22/01/12 04:50 AM
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No means no guys, If someone changes their mind whether you are strangers, dating, or married, its not cool to pressure people into having sex they will regret. No means no. If someone shuts you down, you do not then have sex with them, because that would be rape and rape is both morally wrong and illegal. That does not mean you can't try to turn the no into a yes, as that does not require you rape anyone.
/r/seduction22/01/12 04:44 AM
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thats what i'm saying. if sex isn't being had, is the night a total bust? you can't be ok with rollin with the punches and deciding to have a lovely sleep and maybe a fun hang out in the morning or something? If you invite me back to your place and we end up in your bed and you want to have "a lovely sleep", unless I'm really exhausted and wake up to you humping my cock I'm immediately writing you off as not worth my attention. No one is obligated to fuck another, male or female. But there comes…
/r/seduction22/01/12 04:43 AM
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Question: Maybe I just want to take a guy (or girl) home, hook up to whatever level I want, then say I'm going to bed and you have to leave. How is that a cock (or clit) tease? Or rather, how is awesome hooking up for hours, without PIV penetration, a bad thing? I understand the concept of blue balls, so let's assume I'm awesome, we hook up, fingering, oral sex, and I blow you. But no penetration sex. It's only bad if I wanted to fuck you. But even then, it's not really bad so much as undesirabl…
/r/seduction22/01/12 04:39 AM
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Damn right you do! Really, what you do is rarely important (see the SimplePickup guys for in-field demonstrations of this). It's how you do it. It's the attitude you convey through your behavior, whatever that behavior may be. She knows you were trying to seduce her! Smile, walk her through the process, involve her. It's a game and now she's playing. Worst case scenario, she's a horrible second player and it goes nowhere, but that's ok.
/r/seduction16/01/12 10:08 PM
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Played dumb? No way, man. She identified the fact you were flirting with her and seemed fine with it. At that point, hiding it or playing dumb just makes you look ashamed of your actions, and why the hell are you ashamed of that? Own up to it, walk her through the process, get her to help you seduce her.
/r/seduction16/01/12 09:53 PM
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Good luck, man. If nothing else, you'll change when you hit rock bottom, so I don't think you're doomed. But it's gonna be painful, reading what you write :/
/r/seduction13/01/12 02:07 AM
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I feel your pain, being only 6'3".
/r/seduction04/01/12 12:01 AM
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I'm not terribly creative and basically just make fun of every girl I talk to, to varying degrees, so I'd agree and amplify and turn it into a hookup. "I am absolutely pissed, I don't think I can ever forgive you. Let's go to <place and time> and you can show me how sorry you are." If you're particularly smooth, you might be able to pull off the rage poop.
/r/seduction03/01/12 11:28 PM
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I think worrying about what that community thinks is a bad idea. We've tried helping them before, made contact in the past, it went the same way. These men and women are Forever Alone for a reason. You do not strike out in life that consistently without having some underlying emotional and mental issues that render a random internet person able to help you. People so depressed and broken they call themselves Forever Alone and gain what little social interaction they can by having the same name a…
/r/seduction11/12/11 02:37 PM
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ahahaha
/r/seduction28/11/11 05:36 AM
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The best thing is that telling everyone won't matter. As you noted, being aware doesn't mean being immune. Game works.
/r/seduction28/11/11 05:34 AM
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Absolutely serious. Swing by New York sometime, I'll hit you up and introduce you to my sister and her girl-posse.
/r/seduction21/11/11 07:24 PM
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Aww, poor you.
/r/seduction21/11/11 06:51 PM
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Well then who are they getting laid with? With guys! For every girl that lays a guy, a guy also lays a girl. While this is true, it glosses over the fact that it's generally a smaller number of men banging a much larger group of women, not equal fucking. Majority of women can easily get sex; majority of men cannot.
/r/seduction21/11/11 05:52 AM
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I'm so far ahead of you.
/r/seduction28/10/11 09:53 AM
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Absolutely. Every interaction we have with another human being is manipulation.
/r/seduction29/09/11 07:10 AM
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There's nothing to counter. Game isn't a trick that removes your ability to make your own decisions. Game is how you -- or a woman, or any other guy -- present yourself as an attractive, sexual, likeable person. A woman can't "trick" you into a relationship. That doesn't work. A relationship with you requires your consent and desire to move to that point. A woman is gaming me? Cool. If she can get me emotionally attached and wants me, that's fantastic. It means she's attractive, intelligent, per…
/r/seduction29/09/11 07:08 AM
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You are the man. Not a man. Not the man. The man, emphasized in elegant curling italics because you're that god damn special. You're fun to be around, fun to get to know, fun to fuck. You're confident in yourself. Why? Because you look good and feel better. The world is your oyster, and you are going to smash that oyster open and take its pearl because you're a bit of a jerk, but in that good, aggressive way people and not oysters like. Why? Because you're the MAN, now emphasized in bold capital…
/r/seduction29/09/11 04:58 AM
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I'm sure you're a great guy but honestly I doubt anyone cares. You're one dude with an agenda; you can be ignored.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 12:30 AM
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You're a trolling, assuming asshat. I rather think the same of you. I'll not be replying to any of your posts in this topic again; as I mentioned, I find it pointless to talk to you. Enjoy your day.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 05:23 AM
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Ahuh. Talking to you is pointless and unrewarding. Have a nice day, karma.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 08:30 PM
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I'm sorry, in your pretty little head did it ever occur to you that , just maybe, that being angry and vocal about injustices makes us sane, and you the fucking assholes? No, bitterness and pointless rage do not make you or this subreddit sane. The woman hating, the feminist hating, the nearly everything hating -- it's without value, and only serves to make those who participate look foolish and brutish.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 08:27 PM
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I think you're being a little harsh. She is at a disadvantage, as a small woman -- just not one she can't overcome. She probably didn't give it much thought, someone being more powerful and significantly larger is intimidating and fearful, even if thinking rationally you can equalize it.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 09:04 AM
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Yes, old, established subreddits have more readers than new ones. Thank you for pointing that out for everyone who has forgotten.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:54 AM
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You. Are. Lost. You're welcome to feel that way. You're a very angry person, and not the sort who can be reached out to -- and while that is a pity, it's not a surprising one, and I won't lose sleep over it.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:53 AM
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But a knife requires force behind it to cut through muscle or bone, a blunt force weapon requires similar force to shatter v. stun or bruise. Again, size and strength play a significant factor. You absolutely do not need great physical strength to stab someone lethally or to whack them in the temple with a baseball bat. Cutting, perhaps, but someone with a bladed weapon typical to home defense -- such as a knife -- trying to cut and not stab is odd.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 03:54 AM
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This does forget the various equalizers we all have access to: guns, bladed instruments, blunt weapons, etc., etc. Increased muscle mass does not help you very much with a bullet wound, a shattered skull, or a knife in your chest.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 02:54 AM
2

I'll answer it for you, as a mod of /r/Masculism. I'm going to be very blunt here because I think you'll appreciate honest, direct responses. /r/MensRights is despised. It is equivalent to first-wave feminism, with a terrible signal to noise ratio, a ton of hurt feelings, and a pervasive anger and rage that gets in the way of building alliances and making a good public image. How do you think feminism became the power it is today? It wasn't through remaining an angry misandric ragefest all the t…
/r/MensRights24/09/11 02:46 AM
1

No, that humor isn't distasteful either. I said real violence was distasteful.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 07:05 AM
0

Disagreed. Do you also think racial, ethnic, stereoptypic, economic, sexual, political, etc. humor is distasteful as well? Humor? No.
/r/MensRights19/09/11 06:13 AM
2

I read this multiple times before figuring out what the fuck you meant by TV and wondering if you were making up some ridiculous story about winging for televisions.
/r/seduction23/08/11 10:03 PM
1

You have horrible taste! I am never giving up my chin curtain.
/r/seduction23/08/11 08:03 AM
15

Like he said: spare time and no girlfriend.
/r/seduction19/08/11 11:09 AM
1

It's primarily #1. Treat it entirely like #3. Wish her well, brief but polite -- or ignore her entirely. If she ever wants to reconnect, have her make you a mix tape.
/r/seduction16/08/11 11:50 AM
5

Ya'll need to relax. Even assuming the worst, that it's an elaborate scheme to divide the movement and fuck things up, if it turns out that no useful discussion happens there or it's just feminists downplaying male issues, the people who check it out and care about Men's rights will leave.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 06:41 PM
9

This subreddit is just a troll subreddit, judging by the posts. Ignore it.
/r/MensRights14/08/11 05:43 AM
9

Ultimately, there is no piece of advice we can give you. There is no magic trick. There is no drug. You, my friend, are at the point where there's only one thing left: just do it. There's nothing more to read about. Nothing more to wait on. You must simply go and talk to women. And it's a step you have to take yourself.
/r/seduction12/08/11 03:24 PM
-1

Apocalypse opener near closing time. There, I've saved you so much time. Go forth and stick your dick in as many females as you can, young grasshopper. Your training is complete. We'll be here once you, too, get bored with that. Already know that. There's more to getting laid than that. Every bit of knowledge helps.
/r/seduction12/08/11 01:16 AM
1

Either you chose to ignore my point or you missed it entirely. Neither would surprise me. You're welcome to make your points directly. If you toss out irrelevant baseball comparisons, I'm going to point out they're irrelevant. Their motivations don't matter to /r/HowToPlay teaching you how to play. Well, dude, I disagree. Then I would suggest you find a subreddit not named Seduction. Anything beyond getting laid is tangential -- if it is going to help, it will get some mention, even if it only h…
/r/seduction12/08/11 12:27 AM
5

Were the greatest baseball players of all time motivated by the money and fame or by their love for the game? Doesn't matter, but you can ask them. This isn't /r/HowToGetLaid. You're talking about meteorology and missing out on the astronomy. /r/seduction is really How To Get Laid, dude. That is overwhelmingly the focus and intent. It has some other aspects -- being better in general -- but seduction is a sexual term, and the one used for a reason.
/r/seduction11/08/11 11:42 PM
5

The object around here seems to be about "getting results" rather than building healthy relationships of any sort. It's a goal-oriented process, yes. Would you join /r/HowToPlayBaseball if, instead of teaching you how to play baseball, it told you to just be true to yourself and have the most fun you could with baseball? No, because that's stupid and not why you went there.
/r/seduction11/08/11 11:01 PM
-1

Worst case scenario: every woman in the world becomes bitchy and shuts men down. They get lonely. New game arises. Not a concern.
/r/seduction11/08/11 05:46 AM
-1

Well, I can't make you not laugh, though I will suggest you read that study that was on the frontpage -- I think it was from Stanford, though I may be misremembering. Laughing at awful things isn't a sign of immaturity, lack of empathy, or general evilness.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 12:35 AM
-8

Black humor isn't just "laughing at anything terrible". This is a common misconception. Black humor is a narrowly tailored form of satire in which grotesque or morbid humor is used to depict the absurdity of the modern world. It's basically exaggerated, extreme satire. You're right; I shouldn't use technical terms. I am referring to non-satirical jokes (Holocaust jokes, prison rape jokes, etC). There is nothing wrong with laughing at that, regardless of the term used.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 12:24 AM
-8

This isn't an example of Black humor. If you really don't see the difference between Doctor Strangelove and and a video of a woman being beaten violently, I can't help you. Anything terrible qualifies. We have rape jokes (about men and women, see: prison rape), Holocaust jokes, murder jokes, etc., etc. My personal dislike of something doesn't mean it's off-limits, no more than yours does.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 12:13 AM
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Finding such a horrific thing to be hilarious is indicative of a lack of empathy and maturity, not presence of a sense of humor. Black humor is not a sign of immaturity or a lack of empathy. There's another post on Reddit, from the last few days, discussing the effects of laughing at negative images on positively coping with them -- dark comedy is timeless and everyone who laughs at it isn't evil.
/r/MensRights11/08/11 12:04 AM
-5

Yeah, because if you don't find a .gif of a woman getting th shit beat out of her hilarious, you have no sense of humor. :rolleyes: Not actually what AnnArchist said, you realize. He said that he can laugh at it because he has one -- this does not then mean you must laugh at it if you have a sense of humor.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:57 PM
4

Senseless violence against those who don't deserve it is wrong. If you are hurting someone for no good reason, that is bad. So: any material on there displaying real (not faked) violence against women is distasteful. Response-wise, I don't know what Reddit's response has been. I don't care much that it exists. It's one of many subreddits I have no interest in and wouldn't support censoring.
/r/MensRights10/08/11 11:56 PM
0

If you only care about tonight, then go ahead and keep throwing around the fuck you image. But people often see through that facade. There is no facade. If you want to be a leader, if you want to be looked up to, do it because it's what you want, and that's what matters. Not because you think it's what other people want, or because you think you 'need' to be for some inane reason.
/r/seduction09/08/11 11:37 PM
0

This idea that being "Alpha" means only caring about yourself and never considering how your actions might effect others is not just a misconception, it's destructive and self-defeating. Who said be inconsiderate? If you care about others and worry about them, do it because it's what you want, not because it's what they expect.
/r/seduction09/08/11 11:36 PM
0

The whole point of seduction is controlling what people think! You can't control what people think. The best you can do is influence it and hope for the best. "Alpha" doesn't mean being self-centered and saying "fuck you" to other people, it means being someone people look up to and want to be around. It has nothing to do with being self-centered and everything to do with fuck you. The key to being confident in yourself, to being someone looked up to, is to be someone who isn't scrounging for ap…
/r/seduction09/08/11 02:09 PM
1

That does wonders for the image of the seddit community. To be perfectly honest, while I like the seduction community and would ideally see it have a good reputation elsewhere on Reddit (and I try to correct misconceptions when I see them), ultimately what anyone thinks isn't important. "Think of your image!" is not going to persuade anyone of anything; one of the first lessons you should internalize from seduction is, basically, 'fuck you'.
/r/seduction09/08/11 10:56 AM
1

this can't be true. i've read so many things this subreddit proving that women are in power and constantly oppressing men. so, which is it? Instead of asking people, look at what happens and decide for yourself. Your own eyes and brain will likely serve you better than ten different opinions from ten different people.
/r/MensRights09/08/11 09:30 AM
6

All this time I've been paralyzed with fear: how do I make sure not to rape people? Thank you, sign. Thank you for solving this horrible enigma.
/r/MensRights03/08/11 12:41 AM
2

Like others said, you need to be obvious because your position means subtle flirtation appears to be part of the job than actual interest. Just walk up to him, smile, go 'I like you, call me', and slip him your number.
/r/seduction02/08/11 08:19 AM
3

Not Batman begins -- Bat men's. Key difference, especially if you read his posts in the same sort of voice you would when reading 'what about the mens???' derisively. He's an ongoing parody of MRAs.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 04:41 AM
1

The blog is only there to belittle men, shame them, and silence them. BatmensBegins is only here to belittle men, shame them, and silence them. Of course the blog likes the user; the user might even be a contributor to the blog.
/r/MensRights02/08/11 12:50 AM
3

lady_catherine is a mod, the subreddit is a worthless farce.
/r/MensRights31/07/11 05:43 AM
1

I completely believe you, but I would not advise men to treat most women like the exceptions, in any scenario. For you and women like you, go for long.
/r/seduction31/07/11 12:35 AM
2

Here's my advice to you: see her, and consider getting back together if and only if counseling and couple's therapy is done. That's if you actually care about her. If you love her and have kids together, I say risk getting burned to go for the loving family pay off. But you must lay down ground rules and be willing to cut her out if she won't play along. If you don't want to be with her, ignore her.
/r/seduction30/07/11 07:25 PM
6

Good writer, bad person. Fun read!
/r/seduction30/07/11 12:08 AM
4

Call it 'Gorilla Game', if you like. :D
/r/seduction29/07/11 09:36 PM
1

I honestly believe that will be the single smoothest moment I'm ever involved with. Even if I improve immensely, it just can't get better than that one perfect time. I'll never forget it.
/r/seduction28/07/11 01:02 AM
1

Damn right. I'm signed up to the local YMCA, going to start working out more. And my neighbor's putting in a word for me at a local comic shop she works at that's hiring. I'm kind of lonely, but the rest is improving.
/r/seduction27/07/11 11:52 PM
1

Not feeling like a loser is an ongoing struggle, man. I mean, I do still feel like one, a lot of the time: I'm unemployed, I'm still overweight, I got dumped. I'm working on improving all of those things, which boosts my confidence, but they're not solved yet. And even when they are, I'm sure there'll be something that makes me feel bad. The key, I think, is to just keep trying anyway. Good on you for shedding all those pounds, by the way. I know what you mean; I'm down 40 pounds, but it really …
/r/seduction27/07/11 11:38 PM
2

Thank you, granto. Your post made me smile. And you're absolutely right, this pain, bad as it feels, is non-lethal. There's nothing stopping me from continuing to improve and being even more awesome except for myself. I admit, this breakup is a bit of a stumbling block; I would have really preferred sticking with her for awhile longer. It was building my confidence and refamiliarizing myself with how to deal with women. But I got a good amount out of it, I suppose. Just gotta keep going.
/r/seduction27/07/11 08:13 PM
1

Dude, it's going to hurt. But at the same time, remember: It's what I'm trying to focus on. Like you said, losing someone you care for hurts. But I know that just because I lost it doesn't mean I never had it. So she's not into me anymore; she was into me, an absolute ton, or I never would have done half the shit I did to her. My confidence has taken a hit, but it'll bounce back -- if I could succeed once, the first time I deliberately seduced a woman, I can succeed twice the next time. Women ar…
/r/seduction27/07/11 08:10 PM
1

I'm glad, man. Don't get me wrong, it hurts. When I was really done talking to her, and had made the resolution to myself, I actually cried for like five minutes straight. I hadn't before or since; I was handling it really well, but at that point, it was just officially over in my mind, I'd finally accepted it, and had to face the fact someone I was attached to no longer cared about me. I felt miserable. It gets better, though; I'm still not at the top of my game yet, but I'm not crying, and I f…
/r/seduction27/07/11 08:04 PM
2

Oh man, I did. I felt like I was high the rest of the day. She was the second girl I'd kissed, and the first one I did so spontaneously. And she took it so well! Part of me was kind of worried it'd go poorly, but the rest of me beat that part like a bitch. And her reaction was priceless; before I kept moving, she just froze in her tracks, watched me shyly, then tried to catch up to me.
/r/seduction27/07/11 08:01 PM
2

Okay bud.
/r/seduction27/07/11 01:04 PM
2

Okay bud.
/r/seduction27/07/11 11:57 AM
1

Life will change for you in it's own time. You are not what you will be in 10 or 20 or 30 years, guaranteed. I absolutely agree! My post was meant to give off a hopeful tone, not a defeated one. Unless of course you are fat because you sit around eating TONS of junkfood and never excercising. That is why I was fat, yes. I got very little exercise. I didn't eat tons of junk, but I did eat more in general than I needed to -- the biggest part of my diet was cutting down on that and dealing with hun…
/r/seduction27/07/11 11:10 AM
1

Thanks! I know it's pretty long, as someone else bitched about it, but I strongly feel that all of those details are relevant. I was an enormous loser, in every way you can use those terms. And even I succeeded. It really can be done. Seduction's no guarantee of success after you get the girl, but just being able to do that even once has changed me. I feel like I would not be afraid to talk to any girl now. Thanks for reading it :) It sucks, though, being the fat funny guy. When you're overweigh…
/r/seduction27/07/11 08:35 AM
5

It's OK to just not read it or post if you think it's too long. It's a long, rambling tale that I wanted to get off my chest.
/r/seduction27/07/11 08:03 AM
14

(continued) Soon after I began studying pick up, I got a job at a local Walmart. This was about five months ago. At work, I met a coworker. We'll call her... Epona, because Zelda fucking rocks. Epona was this cute goth chick. She had horrible taste in music, dressed in all black, was in college for art and painted all the time; good paintings, but dark, dark stuff. But she was cute, and genuinely nice for a girl who looks like evil. I met her when the night shift manager trainee told her to show…
/r/seduction27/07/11 07:47 AM
6

Nearly every post from there is a WorstOf submission waiting to happen.
/r/MensRights27/07/11 03:25 AM
3

Honestly, pay this group no attention. Anarchism and AMR are immensely fucked up. They're delusional bigots wrapped in a toasty layer of hate and bile.
/r/MensRights26/07/11 06:06 AM
2

Canned lines and routines being public knowledge is bad for canned lines and routines, but those are nothing more than poor crutches for absolute beginners; it's OK if they go the way of the dodo. For the rest of it, attraction isn't going to change that fast. What we like, what we like to see and hear, ways to communicate effectively, those are timeless as far as we need be concerned.
/r/seduction22/07/11 01:52 AM
1

Why on earth would you not get laid? "Did you lose a necklace?" "No." "Oh, okay." Subject is closed. If you somehow turn a girl off completely with that, you've got a gift.
/r/seduction21/07/11 04:43 AM
4

Don't be a bitch. Ask them if they lost a necklace. If they say no, then you say alright; there's no elaboration necessary. There's no explaining necessary. Why the hell do you feel you need to explain yourself to people?
/r/seduction21/07/11 04:02 AM
1

That's not what I said. What do you call reading 'round these parts?
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:16 PM
1

That's not what I said. What do you call reading 'round these parts?
/r/seduction18/07/11 10:16 PM
2

Ultimately, it really doesn't matter if they hate it. It is interesting to see the misconceptions -- and the obvious examples of people who know no more of seduction than what they say one night on MTV -- but it's not like they're going to have any influence on anyone. Haters gonna hate. Work on yourself and bathe in their pleasantly warm spite.
/r/seduction18/07/11 02:03 AM
0

Unrelated to my other post, please cease the concern trolling. It's rather obnoxious; if you dislike seduction, simply say so. We'll respect you more for it. You're transparent.
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:34 PM
1

I'm definitely into her, though she's more invested. I like it that way, too; I'm not perfect, and if I felt like I was more into her than the reverse, I'd probably start acting a bit insecure and needy. I'm not a pillar of emotional stability and strength, so I've always found it easier to make someone REALLY into me instead of worrying about how into them I am. Poor self-control, really; I should fix that. It was definitely thanks to /r/seduction that I attracted her, by the way. We were cowor…
/r/seduction17/07/11 11:10 PM
4

I lost my virginity a few years before I found /r/seduction, but she was the only woman I'd ever slept with before I found it. I managed to snag my current girlfriend and make her crazy about me by improving my game.
/r/seduction17/07/11 10:43 PM
1

Fucktards with game think success with women is about getting into fights, not stable relationships, children, support etc. You know that is the opposite of what reputable seduction communities say. Like, you're wrong in every way it's possible for a person to be wrong.
/r/MensRights17/07/11 08:53 AM
-1

Then she should be left to die without her child. The woman is refusing the options available to her; it's solely her responsibility for the crappy consequences now.
/r/MensRights17/07/11 08:50 AM
9

Glad it all worked out. If you trust her and this was just a one-time mistake, forgive her and forget about it. There'll be no need to ever bring this up again. If it's a habit, though, or synchs up with other changes in behavior you don't like, make sure you take decisive action. It's always better to cleanly and firmly end a relationship than let it die a slow, withering death. Better still to make it work and be happy, but only if that's an option. Personally, I think she's lying. She could h…
/r/seduction16/07/11 10:00 PM
27

You're not supposed to be jealous over harmless flirting or perceived flirting; if she's just chatty and nice, or hanging out with friends, don't freak out. Handing her number out to guys who are into her when you've been together over a year is not harmless or imagined. That is unacceptable. Calmly explain to her that's unacceptable, and that you do not enjoy seeing your girlfriend behave that way. She can cut it out or you will drop her from your life. Be chill, man, but respect yourself. You'…
/r/seduction16/07/11 08:49 PM
0

Your hand kind of looks like a dinosaur's.
/r/seduction16/07/11 04:26 AM
1

ENFJ. :) And taking the test again with different questions elsewhere, I got closer to ENFP.
/r/seduction16/07/11 03:20 AM
1

Just means I need to be better than they are. Since improving myself is a goal anyway, that's not really a downside.
/r/seduction04/07/11 06:36 AM
1

You would be wrong. Now, there are exceptions to that -- if a man was personally interacting with me, then what he did would matter. But I don't care even if there are more douchebags elsewhere in the world.
/r/seduction04/07/11 04:34 AM
1

Well, if that's what you've seen, that's what you've seen. I haven't seen the same, but I wouldn't care even if I did. What other men do or do not do has little bearing on me.
/r/seduction04/07/11 03:21 AM
2

I wouldn't agree with that. I don't think there are more douchebags around ever since The Game went mainstream -- I think since it went mainstream people identify what the douchey guys were always doing easier, so now they notice it clearly.
/r/seduction04/07/11 02:02 AM
1

Unlikely. The ones drawn to pick-up tend to be the somewhat nerdy, socially inept types, by and large; the ones with awful social skills and analytical minds. If it empirically proved ineffective, they'd move on.
/r/seduction04/07/11 01:09 AM
3

Pick-up will continue to thrive for so long as it continues to work and improve the men who study it.
/r/seduction04/07/11 01:03 AM
1

I mentioned lesbians elsewhere (and bisexuals, I suppose, too). They can be sources of useful information.
/r/seduction02/07/11 05:41 PM
3

I can't help it that you continually miss my point, Rcska. While women can contribute many things to many fields, they have precious little to contribute to how to pick women up, because they simply don't do it.
/r/seduction02/07/11 02:42 AM
1

And now we're best friends forever.
/r/seduction02/07/11 02:41 AM
2

Yes, some women like to try and hook their friends up. Again, no bearing.
/r/seduction02/07/11 02:30 AM
1

My opinion is priceless beyond measure. See that sadface you made earlier? Now it's time to make it a happyface.
/r/seduction02/07/11 02:29 AM
5

Yes, men can give bad advice. That has no bearing on what I said. We want to take advice from those who successfully pick women up. Outside of the lesbians, women don't have that experience in any way, shape, or form.
/r/seduction02/07/11 02:24 AM
5

They're not. When you want to learn how to cook good food, you don't ask someone who eats a lot. You don't ask the guy who delivered the ingredients. You don't ask the guy who made your cooking utensils. You ask the chef. That's not a condemnation of anyone else, merely acknowledgement that when learning how to do, ask someone who does. You're welcome to post. I encourage it! Contribute if you think you can, take what you can from the subreddit. That has no bearing on the fact that women know wh…
/r/seduction02/07/11 02:11 AM
2

You're welcome to post; I'd never think to tell you or any other woman to leave. I'm just contesting the idea we gotta have more, as the OP states. If you think there's something you can get out of seddit, or something you can contribute, I encourage you to do so.
/r/seduction02/07/11 02:02 AM
3

The information women gives us will tend toward inaccurate; we want the feedback of people who pick women up, not people who don't.
/r/seduction02/07/11 01:16 AM
3

Women aren't generally useful for our purposes. While they could give us a lot more feedback, it's feedback that's nonhelpful, by and large.
/r/seduction02/07/11 12:53 AM
1

I'm not saying this to brag at all, Good, because you didn't fuck her.
/r/seduction27/06/11 10:35 PM
2

I feel fine; if I was the sort of person who'd bang a married chick, I certainly wouldn't feel bad about it later. If it'd make me feel bad, I wouldn't do it to begin with.
/r/seduction26/06/11 10:32 PM
1

You like what you like. I find submission hot, no interest in enduring power struggles.
/r/seduction26/06/11 04:22 AM
1

I think you're misunderstanding OP, although I do agree with a lot of what you're saying. It's not like he's outright avoiding responsibility for his actions; he's merely telling us that the game has changed the way he acts. I didn't even mean to, it just happened. That's word-for-word what we want a woman's thought process to be to avoid slut-shaming and LMR. It just happened. He's avoiding responsibility for his own actions.
/r/seduction19/06/11 09:24 PM
85

It doesn't seem like it's Game that fucked you over, you seem like an asshole. I didn't even mean to, bullshit. Nothing just happens, that's an excuse we tell ourselves so we don't feel ashamed. You go out and seduce women, especially women you shouldn't, and now you feel all bad about yourself. Boohoo.
/r/seduction19/06/11 01:48 PM
-1

2X has never been high-quality; the men and women there are exactly as dim as the men and women on every other subreddit. They just talk about girly things more.
/r/MensRights10/06/11 12:10 PM
1

What do you define as wealthy? I don't bring in a tenth of 60k; everything I want in life could be gotten with that. It's wealthy to me.
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:23 PM
1

It's not. I was poor as a younger man, and have become wealthy. I do alright, but becoming wealthy hasn't made me do any more "alright" than I did before. This isn't actually true. Research shows that more money equals a significant increase in happiness, up to about... I think it's $60,000 a year? Basically, once you have enough money to not worry about money, provided you don't spend extravagantly, more stops making you happier. But it makes you immensely happier when you need it.
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:07 PM
7

(inb4 people post and say stupid shit like "LOL who carez") I'm going to say it politely instead: no one minds. Really. You are free to leave; if the information provided is not to your taste, no one wants to force it down your throat. Good luck with women and social interactions in general. That said, in the future, avoid goodbye posts. Especially angry, insulting ones like this. It makes you look like a child throwing a temper tantrum. If you really want anyone here to learn something from you…
/r/seduction05/06/11 06:13 PM
2

I have no idea if this is good or not. Actually, it strikes me as going horribly. But I so rarely see a girl laying bricks, I'd have to do it. Walk up to her. Lightly touch her arm, looking away a bit, forlornly. Wait for her to look at you. Turn your head and eyes halfway, pause, then finish turning to meet her gaze. "I'm sorry. I heard the news." "Excuse me / what news / something else." "About your sisters. Straw and sticks..." At this point, shake your head sadly, click your tongue. Get her …
/r/seduction05/06/11 09:51 AM
1

Like Tofu mentioned, how you act in person has little bearing on how you come off online. Emphasize different things in different contexts; seduction isn't a one size fits all deal.
/r/seduction04/06/11 12:37 PM
2

So, Seddit, what would you have done? Fucked her already or moved on. She's hot, personalities click, and you like her? The hell are you waiting for? If I was in your position, I would have used the conversation there as a stepping stone for escalating things. I see no good reason to simply not act on it.
/r/seduction01/06/11 05:26 PM
4

This is why I've never been 100% convinced of Seddit's whole, "Be the fun guy who's the soul of the party" funny man thing. That strikes me as more 'proud swagger guy' than 'happy guy'.
/r/seduction25/05/11 03:50 AM
3

You're like my own personal white trash talkshow host. Keep going! This is great :D
/r/seduction24/05/11 03:04 AM
3

Oh, a running start, you are good at this.
/r/seduction24/05/11 01:57 AM
3

You're adorable. Can you angrily respond to my posts here, too? Make me look better by comparison.
/r/seduction23/05/11 11:55 PM
1

Fortunately for me, I have no interest in girls too wasted to verbally or nonverbally communicate with me. Where's the fun in that? It's like masturbating.
/r/seduction23/05/11 11:45 PM
7

Never feel guilty unless an expectation of exclusivity has been established.
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:40 PM
1

You're advising people to "plow through negative vocal cues," e.g. "keep going even though she said no." Yep. If someone says X but does Y, I will advise you to respond to Y, every time. Glad we understand each other.
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:36 PM
1

It's not illegal, and I feel no guilt for testing someone's boundaries and backing off when they've made their resistance unquestionable. I am not concerned with whether you are comfortable or not; all I can control are my thoughts and feelings, and thus all I worry about are them. A woman feeling comfortable is her own responsibility.
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:15 PM
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If a girl leaves uncomfortable after a sexual encounter due to your forcefulness then you've definitely entered a sexual assault scenario No. Crimes are not defined by whether the victim liked them or not. Do not enter the territory of sexual assault, that is a Bad Idea. Feel free to enter the territory of You Were Too Pushy And Now She Doesn't Like You; More Fish In The Sea. My understanding of token resistance is that you're not supposed to have to pressure or "coerce" a girl into sex or to go…
/r/seduction23/05/11 07:51 AM
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If I am interested in a girl for sex, I am willing to risk her being uncomfortable to figure out if she's willing or not.
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:48 AM
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No man, a thousand upboats to you.
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:32 AM
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Well, who am I to argue with field testing? I'm just a keyboard sewer, here. Respect for putting yourself out there and testing the difficult things we just talk about.
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:09 AM
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Of course it's allowed, and of course she can ask you. However, if she continues to show signs of physically being into it, I'm going to continue to escalate and push until she shuts me down. If she says "I don't want to fuck despite my body language, I only want to kiss", I'm going to smile, go "I understand completely", and show her to the door. I am not a rapist. I respect a woman's right to her body. I am also entirely uninterested in her in that scenario, so she can go.
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:06 AM
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Yeah it is. It means you are doing something that somebody doesn't want, already. That is not in any way rapey. Don't trivialize rape. Being uncomfortable with a guy's forcefulness isn't rape. Being fucked somehow against your will is rape. Yes, you escalate until you're refused clearly. Maybe at that point she's uncomfortable. That's a shame, you're not getting sex now; you weren't anyway. Respect her refusal once it's clear and move on, and if she doesn't want to see you again, forget about he…
/r/seduction23/05/11 05:05 AM
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Gosh, you made me blush.
/r/seduction23/05/11 04:53 AM
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Time and other women are the only real cures. The rest of it is willpower; struggle and resist seeing her or speaking to her until you stop wanting to. It will happen. But it's hard.
/r/seduction23/05/11 04:42 AM
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All the examples pretty clearly showed the same idea to me: If she's physically displaying interest, plow through negative vocal cues. Yes, that does mean if she continues to make out, keep making advances.. ... but it also means that the moment she makes it clear that she's ONLY willing to make out and not go any further, you stop. You go forward until you have an unambiguous physical and vocal no. That's not at all rapey.
/r/seduction23/05/11 04:35 AM
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People have become more increasingly apathetic in more recent years. This is actually wrong, and that you'd parrot it kills any respect for you I may have had. Look up studies into the bystander effect -- people, as a majority, are not apathetic, and are very quick to help in the right circumstance. Once they know a problem exists and WHAT they are supposed to do, they do it near instantly.
/r/MensRights23/05/11 04:32 AM
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Why is that? Really -- actual resistance, it was emphasized, is not to be fought. But token resistance? I've seen it. Hell, I've done it, when I'm slightly busy and not really in the mood but willing to be seduced and coerced. What's rapey about the following situation: Clara wrapped Bruce's hair around her fingers, clutching his back with one hand, her head tilting back and her mouth parting with a series of cute little ohs, legs wrapping around his waist. "We can't, no, stop, I shouldn't, oh..…
/r/seduction23/05/11 04:18 AM
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If you read everything he's said in that 2XC thread, he's against this subreddit, and was trying to incite a downvote brigade. He says otherwise, but I find his opinions rather clear
/r/seduction23/05/11 04:16 AM
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Like others have mentioned, it just sounds like they're suffering from approach anxiety and can't work up the nerve to just charge in and talk. It's a 'technique' in the same way fumbling the ball is a sports technique, or in the same way yelling at a spool of thread until it cries is a sewing technique.
/r/seduction23/05/11 02:25 AM
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"Must suck to see all your friends go up to Heaven without you. I'll make it better for you -- meet me at <X> on <Y>."
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:54 AM
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Sorry for that, good man. Enjoy your night.
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:44 AM
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However, the women who were angry at this post deserve to feel that way. Those women were wrong, is the problem. See, part of the original thread on token resistance was identifying token resistance -- and what it amounted to, largely, is when her nonverbal cues contradict her verbal ones. The girl who says "no, no, I can't", while wrapping her arms and legs around you and grinding. Then you get the melodramatic harpies of 2X freaking out about how that's sick and disgusting and when THEY say no…
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:32 AM
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have yourself a laugh and stop caring what people think. I do not care what you think of me; I am beyond reproach. I do care how we treat others, though. Someone wanting to crossdress is just fine.
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:29 AM
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That's not how it comes across, man.
/r/seduction23/05/11 01:01 AM
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It's an amusing mental image, but I don't like how it's brought up in this context -- it seems to be saying "hey, don't mind what this guy says, he dresses like a girl so he's less important than us".
/r/seduction23/05/11 12:38 AM
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"Hey, you're staring at my tits." "Yeah. Hey, what's your name?"
/r/seduction23/05/11 12:36 AM
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I really wish you hadn't deleted your thread, OP. The best response to a downvote brigade is to not give a fuck. Yeah, the people who washed over you, the great deluge of cunt, no doubt sucked. Fuck it and fuck 'em. What people like has no bearing on what you want to say. Also, the guy being a crossdresser isn't a big deal, don't start talking about that. If he likes what he wears, cool. He's a bitch, but that's unrelated to his dress.
/r/seduction23/05/11 12:32 AM
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He must be swift as the coursing river, with all the force of a great typhoon, and the strength of a raging fire. Also, mysterious as the dark side of the moon. Bitches love the moon.
/r/seduction19/05/11 10:00 AM
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Personally, I'm okay with the seduction community being disliked and misunderstood -- were it anything else, the knowledge you can learn here would be common, and then I wouldn't get to feel like a secret social superhero.
/r/seduction24/04/11 11:39 PM
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Cookies. Bitches love cookies.
/r/seduction18/04/11 10:19 AM
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Assume, for a moment, that every man in there really is frustrated. They're upset, they fail time and time again, they're insecure. You open up by saying, basically, "this is so easy even a caveman could do it, what the fuck is your problem?" You attack them right off the bat. "We need to find out what is wrong with you", as opposed to "We need to find out what will work for you". Instead of lifting them up, you're taking them down -- and they already feel low. Then, the advice you give is to qu…
/r/seduction14/04/11 06:53 PM
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Who's to say I'm not a regular? I don't understand. 'Regular' means someone who comments often and is a known name in the subreddit. Reading it doesn't count. I read here often and don't post much, I'm no regular.
/r/MensRights09/04/11 02:09 AM
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Quit feeding her craving for attention.
/r/seduction07/04/11 07:28 AM
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A girl asked me over to help her house sit. She said she wanted some company. Obvious, right? Not to lil' old AFC me. I went over, brought some vodka, we drank, we smoked, we listened to Atmosphere. She said I should stay the night because I was in no condition to drive home. She said we could share the bed. No matter how much I may suck, I can always take solace in the fact I've never been that bad. I hope you improved!
/r/seduction31/03/11 07:08 PM
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Uhh, what? Assuming the story is true -- and if we assume it's not there's no point in talking, as we have nothing to discuss -- the man here was not deceived. He was treated as fairly as could be asked for.
/r/MensRights31/03/11 05:17 AM
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You approached him in the beginning and gave him the option of saying no, I don't want to be a father, there will be no support. You gave him the choice all men deserve: to decide when they want to be a parent or not, without the threat of wage slavery. You were awesome and the fact he's decided to about-face this far down the line is unacceptable. He had his chance, he squandered it. The legal system is entirely on your side now. If you want money, you will get money. Tell your daughter her fat…
/r/MensRights31/03/11 03:43 AM
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I'm sorry to say that you're friend is both an idiot and a misandrist.
/r/MensRights31/03/11 03:35 AM
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I think that would lead to a LOT of unprotected sex. No consequence for guys (I am one) doing whatever they want. It's that way for women now, as they choose what the consequences of their sex lives are. Why is that okay for women but not men?
/r/MensRights29/03/11 09:47 AM
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But you have the moral authority to prevent it by forcing an abortion? I have never seen someone encourage forced adoption. The only suggestion like that I've ever heard said in earnest is a financial abortion -- if a woman chooses to have a child against the man's wishes, he can legally opt out of the child's life, leaving the woman to support and raise it on her own. That is how it should be. I don't know if it ever will be that way, but I'll support it any way I can, and in the meantime encou…
/r/MensRights29/03/11 09:45 AM
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Your suggestions are laughable. By your thought process, men could just go around having unprotected sex with everything that moves (either by being irresponsible, or by making the girl believe he wanted to be a father, etc), and if the girl does get pregnant, simply say "oh I opt for abortion" then be able to walk away without penalty. Why is the thought of men being able to opt out terrible, but women being able to is a fine thing? I'm fully willing to support your position if you make abortio…
/r/MensRights29/03/11 09:41 AM
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You're right, and freezing is a good idea; it's really the only option men have to control their own reproductive futures. We need to be sterile by default so women and nature, for good and bad reasons, can't force a child upon us; the law is unlikely to ever treat men fairly here, so we must change what we can.
/r/MensRights29/03/11 09:30 AM
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I can guarantee you he isn't. I'd hope not. It's a good mindset to have, no mistake; think you're great, the greatest, be proud and confident and bold and move forward. But to actually start basing potential life decisions off that delusion is a bad idea.
/r/seduction27/03/11 08:36 AM
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Seddit, don’t give me that shit about “You’re crazy! She cheated on her boyfriend, what makes you think she wouldn’t she cheat on you?” Well, the truth is, I’m better than her current boyfriend. I’m better than any boyfriend she’s ever had or will ever have. I know this because I’m confident in myself and know that I’m a great catch. I make women happy when they're with me. Simple. I wonder if he's that blindly confident, too.
/r/seduction27/03/11 05:35 AM
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Uhh... no. Downvotes don't actually hurt people, and calling for downvote brigades just makes you and MensRights look silly.
/r/MensRights03/03/11 01:08 AM
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Men are creeps. Aha, ha, ha. Fuck you.
/r/MensRights03/02/11 09:53 AM
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The point was that all a man has to do to abort is to sign a piece of paper and walk away while a woman has to either take a physical risk (abortion does come with physical risks, it is not just like getting a mole removed), an emotional risk, or chose to carry the child and go through the trauma of giving it up. That is a shame for the woman, but it remains fair. Equal opportunity: both can be involved with the child or not involved as they see fit. Nothing else is acceptable. This could be hor…
/r/MensRights02/02/11 08:37 PM
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Unfortunately, you would be opening a door for men to partake in accidental pregnancies and then book it out of there is he feels like it. Yes, she can abort or give the baby up for adoption, but it is quite unfair for her to go through the emotional pain and possible lasting issues of either of those just because the partner who screwed up as bad as she did had a way out. No, it's not unfair. It's the only thing that can be fair: the man can have a child or not, the woman can have a child or no…
/r/MensRights02/02/11 08:18 PM
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I have no interest in being a single father.
/r/MensRights02/02/11 04:58 PM
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Nope. You're full of shit. Enjoy.
/r/MensRights28/01/11 05:24 PM
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This is never actually true. As someone who has had secrets that have hurt people, it is always, always easier to keep it to myself, and it's always hurt more telling. It's a pathetic excuse liars use to justify their behavior without having to think of themselves as a bad person. No, you're not being noble and doing it the right way. You're an asshole.
/r/MensRights24/01/11 06:49 PM
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See the other posts. I'd offer to take it out as opposed to a smaller / weaker / more scared fellow too.
/r/MensRights20/12/10 04:27 AM
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There is not a single thing you have said about me that's accurate, nor do I think anything you've said about yourself is accurate. You started off reasonable but you're one fucked up bitter dude. I won't tell you to seek therapy, but it's pretty weird. Peace.
/r/MensRights19/12/10 06:06 AM
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You didn't seriously think I'd let that pass did you? Explains the basis for your Chivalry though. I didn't give any thought to it one way or the other. You went from reasonable to not pretty quickly so I've ceased caring. I don't dislike men, but I have no sexual interest in them and for the most part I don't do the friends thing. There's simply nothing to tie me to any given man other than common courtesy. And a notable lack of men in your upbringing suggests to me that not only did your mothe…
/r/MensRights19/12/10 03:46 AM
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Chivalry is what enables Feminism, and is the underpinning of ALL the anti-male hysteria in society today, so yes, I suppose I do take issue with it. You're welcome to be angry. Don't expect me to take you seriously if you get angry at me for what I consider no good reason, however. I don't believe for an instant that you don't have 'ulterior' motives for doing chivalrist things. Frankly, if you're not doing the same thing for men as you are women, I wonder why that is? I don't really like men t…
/r/MensRights18/12/10 10:10 PM
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Because it is aggressive. I explained that I'm not being taken advantage of; I do these things with full knowledge and acceptance of any reward or non-reward and go out of my way to make sure there are no misunderstandings on either end. I don't try to curry favor with favors. I help people because I like helping them. It makes me feel good. Wanting to be relied on is in my blood. Your response to this is to go out of your way and put my methods in terms such as "get walked all over" and imply I…
/r/MensRights18/12/10 08:24 PM
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Now I'm beginning to think you are rather mad at women. That's completely unnecessary aggression, bud.
/r/MensRights18/12/10 06:56 PM
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We both live in the same world. True, I made a generalization based on limited info, but you can hardly argue that my characterization is a unique one (ie, LOTS of 'nice guys' are the way they are hoping to get laid for it). It's accurate when directed at a lot of people. But not me, the one it was directed at. Chivalry, and common decency, are ROUTINELY taken advantage of these days. It's not only common, but I bet even you, the 'capable' guy you are, have found yourself doing things for a woma…
/r/MensRights18/12/10 02:17 AM
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...and of course, no self-serving hope that this will raise your standing with them at the same time.... Actually, no, none at all. I'm not the most confident person in my world but I respect myself enough to not grovel, directly or indirectly. Besides, don't dick people you work with. That can only end terribly. Someday, though, you will notice that while you are taking out the trash, doing the dishes, and mowing the lawn...she's in the bedroom with that guy she keeps complaining about...again.…
/r/MensRights18/12/10 01:20 AM
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There's no reason to clap for it. Being concerned about your own safety isn't really some amazing thing. That said, I'd still offer to take it out in place of any women, but that's just how I am. It's my offer, not my obligation.
/r/MensRights17/12/10 10:27 PM
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Not to be the odd girl out; but as a female, I would have an objection to being asked to walk out to the dumpsters by myself, especially at night. I'm a dude, and I'd object to that as well. If my safety isn't taken into consideration, no reason for yours to be.
/r/MensRights17/12/10 09:55 PM
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That's pretty fucked up. Don't drink and get that close to the line, and for the guys, don't make comments like that. Bad ideas all around.
/r/MensRights20/11/10 11:56 PM
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Oh, of course. I mean, ignoring the fact what you're saying now completely contradicts what you said before, I agree fully. I have no higher purpose in life than convincing a woman to let me into her home, guard lowered.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 04:02 PM
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I wouldn't worry about removing opportunities from the men; I'm not experienced with couchsurfing, but I strongly suspect that they're used to people not being comfortable with it and have other places to go in any city. As for the likelihood, I do not think a couchsurfer is any more likely to attack you than someone you bump into on the street. But if you're uncomfortable with it, you're uncomfortable, and if you're not strong enough to defend yourself there's nothing wrong with restricting acc…
/r/MensRights31/10/10 04:00 PM
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Yes, you're being sexist. There's nothing wrong with that; this is your home we're talking about. You can have requirements for coming into it that wouldn't be appropriate in other settings. That said, it's a rather silly fear.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:49 PM
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Hilariously, pretty much every response is telling her it's fine.
/r/MensRights31/10/10 03:47 PM
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My level of concern regarding whether you perceive my posts as serious or productive can be described as "non existent" That's fine. It was advice offered for your benefit, not mine; if you don't want to follow it, don't. You needn't be so hostile, neither of us care enough about the other to be worked up. I do! and if I cared about downvotes I wouldn't have made an account specifically to post in ideologically hostile subreddits like /r/mensrights and /r/libertarian. Rock on. The community will…
/r/MensRights19/10/10 09:02 PM
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You're welcome to continue being inflammatory, of course. I was merely offering some advice in case you wished to be taken seriously or be more productive. That you don't want to be a worthwhile participant in any conversation is disappointing but ultimately unimportant. Enjoy your posts, and, I suppose, enjoy your downvotes.
/r/MensRights19/10/10 08:46 PM
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A bit late in my reply, but I figure hearing this might do you some good: I see a number of people refer to you as a troll and disregard whatever else you say. I don't know if you are or not, but if you don't wish to be seen as such, avoid posts like that one right there. What does it contribute? Absolutely nothing. It's pure inflammatory vitriol backed up by no supporting evidence. It offers no grounds for a reply, it does not advance the subject - all it does is degrade men in a vague way. A b…
/r/MensRights19/10/10 08:07 AM
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If the disabled people are slow movers, they stick to the back. There's nothing special about being disabled; slow is slow. If they're some sort of extremely agile cripple, they can move to the front, provided they can maintain the appropriate pace. And while you can create a bottleneck with the faster people if you handle it improperly, putting the slow in front and handling it inappropriately leads to even worse results.
/r/MensRights10/10/10 02:46 AM
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With the fastest in front, casualties are minimized. The least amount of suffering ensues. You call that selfish? Your method would produce greater harm to a greater number of people for no greater reason than it would make you feel morally satisfied. You would condemn a group for your own good feelings. You'd do that and you dare to call my suggestion selfish? You're a self-righteous monster, dude. Or a troll. Just noticed the name.
/r/MensRights10/10/10 01:18 AM
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Courtesy is fine as an individual choice; if you wish to stay behind to make yourself feel good and assist the slower individuals, that's your right. It is terrible policy. Courtesy as you define it will result in the highest number of casualties in an emergency situation. You can sacrifice yourself.
/r/MensRights09/10/10 11:55 PM
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Children first (with their primary care giver), pregnant women, then every one else (capable adults). Wrong option. Slow fall to the back. Otherwise everyone is held up.
/r/MensRights09/10/10 11:15 PM
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So all the faster people get out first, the building collapses, and all the children, pregnant women, and elderly die. Do you really think all the "faster" people can't all try to get out at the same time and block the exist too. How about some of the faster people help the slower people move faster... You're a dumbass, dude. Forcing everyone to move at the pace of the slowest doesn't save anyone. The slow are unaffected by being behind the fast - they're not going to catch up, there's no hold u…
/r/MensRights09/10/10 11:14 PM
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That thread makes me sick to my stomach. I feel so, so bad for that guy.
/r/MensRights22/09/10 05:11 AM
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I'm not sure I'd want to be your friend if you think cheating is an action that would keep your best one around, but I don't think that's really what you were thinking. The hurting seems more likely. Still, good to see you could both let go. I hope next time you want to end a relationship you just come out and say it.
/r/MensRights03/07/10 06:52 PM
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Why did you opt to cheat on him instead of ending the relationship and moving on? I'm curious.
/r/MensRights03/07/10 09:30 AM
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Huh, interesting. Well, assuming they're the same person on different handles, the advice is sound. Assuming one is copycatting the other for some reason, hey, don't copycat bad posts!
/r/MensRights20/06/10 09:41 PM
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Claim: Men are not special, neither are women. We are entitled to nothing. Argument: Men are entitled to basic rights and human dignity, like women. Implied: both are special. I don't think he missed it, he's arguing against it.
/r/MensRights20/06/10 07:15 PM
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Advice for higher up/downvote ratios in the future: don't add <3. It changes the tone of everything you say into one of smug condescension. It's my assumption you didn't intend that tone, but you should watch it. Never mention downvotes. Claims you'll be downvoted are almost always a pre-emptive pity party and an attempt to garner votes and they reflect badly on the poster. Unless they're really funny, avoid diluting your message with insults. You can point out the bias without the "I'm not real…
/r/MensRights20/06/10 07:13 PM
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I'm not sure what level of detail you are suggesting I get into. You said you told him you "wanted" kids, but gave no date. What I say you should have said is "My partner and I are actively trying to conceive". Devoid of dirty details, the most info it gives someone is that "I am sexually active", which is what they'd know anyway. That is not TMI; you are doing something which will impact your work ability and someone who may hire you should be made aware of that. That's the majority of people y…
/r/MensRights27/05/10 08:30 PM
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I didn't say "it might happen." I told him it would happen, but that I didn't know when. That's good. If you let him know you were actively trying to conceive, then there's nothing deceptive there. His own fault if he went on to hire you. Of course, as you said in your original post, you didn't let him know that. You called it TMI. I did. But since it's only happened once, I don't know if I'd call it a pattern just yet. If it happened once, you cannot rightfully be said to be prone to it. Freak …
/r/MensRights27/05/10 07:39 PM
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Snooping is bad, but it being bad has no bearing on what you find via snooping. The guy's a douchebag, though probably plenty nomal offline and just a huge, crazy troll on it.
/r/MensRights26/05/10 11:31 PM
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Are you scrupulous in your resume and interviews, to the point where you emphasize personal information on potentialities that you honestly do not know the likelihood of actually happening? I would endeavor to be so, yes. I would not mention every potential occurrence, but when you're actively trying to conceive that's a great deal more than simply "it might happen". That's "I am actively trying to make this happen." That you'd conceal it is in poor taste and is exactly the reason someone might …
/r/MensRights26/05/10 11:16 PM
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is it manipulative of me not to share the internal affairs of his company with my prospective employers with the warning that if his company closes or has a massive layoff, we may have to move out of the area, perhaps with only a few weeks warning? Yes, it is manipulative to conceal information significant to your quality as an employee in order to get hired. Tl;dr - it's not always the woman being dishonest about her intentions; even if it is, sometimes she has no other financial option if she …
/r/MensRights26/05/10 10:13 PM
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I'm a bit odd, politically. I have few problems with whatever people want to do to themselves or with other consenting adults. I approve of the legalization of marijuana, abortion for the health and convenience of the woman, all people should have access to quality medical care, basic things needed for a happy life should be provided to all (food, security, shelter, water), education should be free and available to everyone at all levels, and... The list goes on. So far, I sound pretty liberal, …
/r/MensRights24/05/10 02:24 AM
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Do you have any studies on the emotional impact of abortion? The OP claims the latest study s/he read shows no such thing. I'm curious if you're honest and wrong or deliberately misleading.
/r/MensRights25/04/10 11:15 PM
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I'm okay with abortion. It's related to some things I'm not okay with, but abortion itself I have no problems with.
/r/MensRights25/04/10 11:03 PM
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So white guys get to brutalize the world for centuries Irrelevant to any white guy living today. I did not do that. women and minorities might demand some measure of equal treatment douchebag men claim that we should forget all that and just be equals now wait what? They are douchebags for saying let's be equals while you strive for equality? bitch you be stupid :(
/r/MensRights24/04/10 11:15 PM
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I think if you are perceived by society as a man then men's rights apply to you. That said, to me, I will never perceive a transgender man as an actual man. They will always be a woman who wants to be a man to me. It's not going to change; I'll always view someone as what they were born as, if I'm aware of it. That said, I have no desire to punish or demean them, so if they want to consider themselves men and be treated like men by the world at large, good for them if they can convince people to…
/r/MensRights12/04/10 11:53 PM
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Yes, I understand why the courts do what they do. I said I don't agree with it, not that I don't understand it.
/r/MensRights11/03/10 12:22 PM
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It's the principle I oppose: the idea that a child is more important than a parent because they are a child. I'm not terribly familiar with custody battles, so I can't give you a specific example, but I feel any decision made should be fair to all sides, not just one and the child.
/r/MensRights11/03/10 12:21 PM
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I see. Thank you for clarifying. I don't agree with you on the child's interests; a child has no more significance to me than the mother or the father, and the "best interests" of one would never overrule those of another party. A bit of an irreconcilable difference in values, I wager. Still, I appreciate knowing why you'd go with a child over parents.
/r/MensRights10/03/10 07:01 PM
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I figure you go for the one closest to you. Physically, that is. That's how I'd do it; there's no way to choose between things of such great value, really. Go for what's nearest, that you're guaranteed to help the quickest.
/r/MensRights10/03/10 05:51 PM
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The child's interest should ALWAYS come first. IF it were in the children's best interest to remain with the mother, even if it's unfair to the father, then that's what should happen. Why? I'm genuinely curious here. Do you think parents are, in some fashion, 'less' of a person than their children are?
/r/MensRights10/03/10 05:42 PM
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I gave no indication of what my own opinions are. I simply told you how you could demonstrate to the person you replied to how he was wrong if you were so inclined. Your hostility isn't necessary; if you're not interested or capable, that's okay, you're just fine. No need to be so rowdy.
/r/MensRights26/02/10 04:09 PM
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All you've done is express hatred for them, though. If you want sensible debate and critical thinking, address the question he asked you and explain to him why, logically, he's wrong: The real question is, given the current inequities of the divorce process and the potential pitfalls of getting married, why would you get married? A simple risk / benefit analysis shows that it's a stupid idea. It's a simple task. Prove his concept of the cost:benefit ratio is malformed.
/r/MensRights25/02/10 09:23 PM
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Staying calm lets you sort through things in a semi-rational manner. Or am I missing something here. You're missing something. Angry people don't respond to "calm" replies. When you're angry, in a situation that has made you angry, the response you expect is anger. It makes sense. You're angry, naturally the other party should be, too. Having your anger met with calmness comes off condescending and dismissive, which just makes you angrier. Of course, being met with anger makes you angrier, too. …
/r/MensRights21/02/10 11:04 PM
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It has nothing to do with my being an asshole; you're deliberately being retarded. I did not say she wanted to have sex. I said her body language was indicating willingness--which it was, for she continued to pursue sexual activities. This is undeniable. Yes, she said she did not want to have sex. Good for her, and shame on the man for penetrating her. Shame on her for also putting herself into bad situations and behaving in inappropriate, confusing ways.
/r/MensRights21/02/10 05:43 AM
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That's completely different, not at all analogous. In this case, her body was not saying "let's have sex". He held her down, climbed on top of her and inserted his penis forcefully. THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY HERE, MORON. Totally incorrect, if you'd read what she says about the events leading up to the supposed rape at all. Her body language was definitely into it, she admitted she kept fooling around.
/r/MensRights20/02/10 11:18 PM
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I never said no meant anything other than no. Don't be stupid. Yes, once you say no, they must stop, regardless of gender. What I'm saying is that letting it go on that long, claiming to be clearly disinterested but never stopping it until the very end so that you can play the victim, is stupid and worthy of being mocked.
/r/MensRights20/02/10 11:10 PM
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If she's telling the truth, terrible thing that happened to her. She's also pretty stupid, but that doesn't lessen the horrific nature of rape.
/r/MensRights20/02/10 11:38 AM
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...stopped her when he was out of his comfort zone His comfort zone being past making out and touching each other's naughty bits. Ridiculous. a sluttily-dressed girl deserves to get raped for leading people on ...no, it's nothing like saying that. Dressing up has nothing to do with doing things with people or letting them do them to you. I would insult a girl, however she dressed, if she made out with a guy she'd been flirting with and let him feel her up without complaint for awhile only to lat…
/r/MensRights20/02/10 11:10 AM
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I'd mock you too. You hit a bar, flirt with a chick, protest not at all when she's feeling you up, and then disengage at the very end? If you didn't want it, you should have stopped her when she was first getting sloppy.
/r/MensRights20/02/10 10:56 AM
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And no one is obligated to share yours. What's your point? I thought we were discussing our beliefs on the matter, not whether we could force others to adhere to them or not.
/r/MensRights21/07/09 10:01 PM
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I consider any man's child to be part of his body, regardless of where it's held.
/r/MensRights21/07/09 07:52 PM
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Is the man's right to what comes of his body not inviolate? Why is the woman's right more respected than his?
/r/MensRights21/07/09 07:22 PM
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Honestly, I don't know how to respond to anything there. The amount of misguided hate is mind-boggling, and the rampant ideas that it's a man's duty to control the behavior of other men but women are under no obligation whatsoever to keep themselves out of risky situations is terrible. That entire blog is just a lot of fist pumping and "right on, sister", with everyone circle-jerking this man-hating and overwhelmingly irrational paranoia that I don't think any reasonable response you could possi…
/r/MensRights14/06/09 08:22 PM
1

There is not insufficient evidence. There is clear evidence they lied and attempted to ruin a man's life shamelessly. If making up bogus charges isn't a crime, it damn well should be. As for them needing protection, I completely agree. I think all people should record their lives at pretty much all points, because people aren't trustworthy and will pull shit like this. However, they should also be punished. The goal here is not to stop it from happening--though I think at least some people would…
/r/MensRights23/05/09 11:41 AM
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Being drunk is never a get out of jail free card when one commits a crime. It is often the source of the crime; see: drunk driving. They should be punished for what they did. You insist sentences wouldn't stop people at all, but I'm hard-pressed to buy that. In addition, I'm unsure why they can't be charged and have additional safety measures implemented for the driver.
/r/MensRights23/05/09 10:57 AM
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You're being trolled.
/r/MensRights27/04/09 02:34 AM
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sexism, n : discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of the opposite sex We can even broaden that to discriminatory or abusive behavior toward members of any sex because of their sex. If something is true, acknowledging it is not discriminatory or abusive. Actions taken with that knowledge may be, but that doesn't make them necessarily bad; we discriminate every day. That's how we make good decisions and bad decisions.
/r/MensRights21/04/09 02:31 AM
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People in general will respond to certain marketing techniques.
/r/MensRights08/04/09 02:35 AM
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Yes, my mistake. I was in a rush--it's the court's job to punish criminals and determine guilt. The police are there to pick people up, not protect people. Everything else stands.
/r/MensRights07/04/09 04:36 AM
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Humanity, then, by your definition, is not what helps the most people, but what seems 'nicest' to you? Give me 'faux-pragmatism' any day.
/r/MensRights07/04/09 01:01 AM
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The only lack of humanity I see comes from you. You insist the better option is to risk more human lives.
/r/MensRights06/04/09 11:43 PM
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No, no. Their job is to punish criminals, not prevent crime. No one can prevent it without the ability to see the future. Would a good cop protect you anyway? Yeah, probably. They're better-equipped to and might even feel they have a moral obligation to do it.
/r/MensRights06/04/09 11:42 PM
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If I pressed charges against someone and their name was released, yes, I would expect mine to be--that's how it should be.
/r/MensRights19/03/09 10:10 AM
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Wow those comments are sad.
/r/MensRights08/03/09 10:27 PM
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It's not absurd at all. Why should any individual involve themselves with the policies of another country, unless there's a clear and present indication of a potential threat to themselves should they not intervene?
/r/MensRights01/03/09 07:29 PM
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That's not a joke. It's a perfectly reasonable position to take--more important to change the things that influence you first. Who cares what happens elsewhere?
/r/MensRights01/03/09 06:24 PM
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What the government says is not necessarily what should be.
/r/MensRights01/03/09 09:03 AM
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No, a woman does not consent to receive HIV. Similarly, sex is not consent to be a mother/father.
/r/MensRights01/03/09 12:44 AM
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Will the child potentially suffer from a lack of income? It could happen. However, if that does occur, it is the mother's responsibility, not the father's--she chose to carry it to term and raise it despite obviously not having the wealth required to do so. Punishing the father for the mistake of the mother is, quite simply, wrong.
/r/MensRights27/02/09 02:58 PM
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When did Reddit become a soap opera?
/r/MensRights27/02/09 08:44 AM
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Isn't a goodbye post little more than masturbation?
/r/MensRights24/02/09 01:17 AM
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Part of the large group -is- dead weight, it's true. That, (un)fortunately, depending on your moral outlook, is also a part of society. Groups that look out for the well-being of their inferior members, as opposed to pragmatically excising them from the main body, are one thing that sets us apart from animals. Is that a good or bad thing? It's hard to say. My mother is disabled, with a degenerative spinal disease. She recieves aid from the government to cover her living expenses. I consider payi…
/r/MensRights15/01/09 08:10 PM
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If you dislike the trappings of society, you are welcome to abandon it. It's a trade-off: you get the benefits of a large group, and in return, you assist in supporting the rest of that group.
/r/MensRights15/01/09 05:13 PM
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That's why I believe vasectomy is the best word in the English language.
/r/MensRights15/01/09 05:07 PM
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What I find amusing is that you seem to think you feel this way because you married her, not because she's a great woman. There's nothing outside of some legal obligations that come with marriage- you feel these things you do because she's a woman who meshes well with you and has for a long time, not because she's your wife which is magically more than a girlfriend.
/r/MensRights15/01/09 04:43 PM
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Like I said, there are women haters out there. If something exists, people will hate it. I don't think most of the links in the Mens' Rights subreddit are women-hating, though. I wish the haters would ease up and realize they're not going to win any victories by alienating a gender, though.
/r/MensRights06/01/09 05:24 AM
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I would say that part of getting equal treatment for men is showing society at large that women are not the pristine beings they're often portrayed as. Admittedly, this subreddit does have its women haters, and they're an unpleasant bunch. However, I would not call these stories anti-woman: to me, they are quite clearly anti-/abusive/ women, and pro-spreading awareness.
/r/MensRights06/01/09 03:39 AM
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See, that makes more sense. I still disagree, but now I understand what I'm disagreeing with. I concede that pregnancy complications, for obvious reasons, only exist for the pregnant party. However, outside of terminating the pregnancy, those are unavoidable, and play no part in whether the situation is fair or not- you should only worry about those things you CAN control, otherwise, you'll go mad. The same choices are NOT available to men unless said man is willing to do something quite illegal…
/r/MensRights17/12/08 12:11 AM
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That's...remarkably retarded. I'm not even sure what you're trying to say there. The only argument being made is that the same choices should be available to both sexes. Where the fuck do you get murder, disabilities, and illnesses from?
/r/MensRights16/12/08 02:31 AM
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Of course men's rights is not only for them. I'm just naturally irritated by people who try to use unrelated issues to push their agendas. If this topic was about abortion/choice/life/whatever, I'd be all for your words. The "true choice" for equality is that women and men have identical choices in value, if not identical altogether. If neither parent can decide what to do with the baby-in-the-makin', that's equal, although I find it stupid. Likewise, if one has all the power, it should be split…
/r/MensRights15/12/08 10:09 PM
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Certainly! A child takes two to create in most circumstances, and so two should have a say in it, and two should be able to decide how their lives are changed.
/r/MensRights15/12/08 09:47 PM
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If you consider it a kid, sure. Besides the point, though- draggeth not the pro-life agenda here!
/r/MensRights15/12/08 06:44 PM
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I've always felt pregnancy was grossly unfair in regards to men. It's up to a woman, completely, whether the rest of her (and his) life is changed, for the better or for the worse. In cases where the parents disagree on how the pregnancy should be handled, I feel that the male party should be able to sign off and be absolved of all responsibility.
/r/MensRights15/12/08 09:28 AM
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The world has enough people as it is. I hardly dislike children, but there's absolutely no reason to encourage it.
/r/MensRights10/12/08 02:37 AM
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Oh, how I hate you.
/r/MensRights23/11/08 11:39 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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