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FundamentalsGracieFairmont86/r/seduction29/06/21 05:44 AM
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It's tough to put this stuff into practice. Anyone can go on YouTube and learn it, but it still holds value because most guys don't put it into practice. Start light, make it more of a joking around thing, try to make yourself laugh and the girls will probably laugh with u. Do the opposite of what logic dictates, start with the hottest girls, the 10s, then work your way to someone realistic. Given enough time, you won't need to worry about it not coming to mind because it will become part of you…
/r/seduction02/07/21 01:38 AM
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You got to make it clear quickly that you live right there, that has to happen early in the convo. For better or worse, women love convienient logistics. The dark side of this, however, is u need to be careful that the girl doesn't make you the sexless innkeeper. I did this by making a sexually charged statement with the logistical info: "I ain't got much to offer except hand and tongue skills and the fact I live 1 minute away🤣" this also conveyed humility by not talking about everything I actua…
/r/seduction01/07/21 10:49 PM
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Don't feel bad, dating apps are a joke for both men and women, they enable egomaniacal narcissism for the sake of data collecting and marketing. I'm thinking approaching in real life can be fixed...by not approaching. I think you need to implement Costanza protocal. If nothing you do is working, go completly against your instincts and do everything the opposite. Walk around and talk shop with other men and humour old ladies, and don't even glance at the attractive women, i want you to completly …
/r/seduction01/07/21 07:54 PM
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Age difference is actually more of an advantage, so keep an open mind. The best compatability for relationships are with a woman that is 4 to 6 years younger. The best compatability for casual flings is 4 to 20 years older. I can write a book on the psychological implications as to why this is, but I'm sure you have noticed that many young women date older guys and older women hook up with younger dudes.
/r/seduction01/07/21 05:47 PM
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Remember, unless the person is an AMOG, every alpha male out there used to be a simp that learned the hard way, failure is the greatest teacher of life if dealt with the right way. Being single don't make you a simp, making women more important then they actually are does. Once you reverse that thinking your good.
/r/seduction01/07/21 05:26 PM
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When I am in a situation when I feel something for a friend, knowing it's irrational,, I keep my distance for awhile, and sometimes things get back to normal because I NEVER admit to having feelings if she isn't expendable to me, once you do that the friendship cannot be salvaged as you have experienced.
/r/seduction01/07/21 05:17 PM
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There is no such thing as platonic friendship between a man and a woman if one is attracted to the other. Fortunately, sometimes a compartmentalized person realizes the attraction was an illusion and knows how to bury it and continue the friendship as normal. This, however, is exceedingly rare, most guys can't change their minds as easy as women can.
/r/seduction01/07/21 05:14 PM
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Very true. I actually have a friend that decided to put an all lives matter bumper sticker on his car. The car got all the glass smashed out. It got caught on camera. It turned out to be his gf that did it. Saddest part is he is african American and the girl was caucasian. Proof that blm and all the propaganda are the creation of rich guilty white people, ironically.
/r/seduction01/07/21 10:50 AM
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I can't say casual sex is always meaningless and empty. If it is a longterm affair and the girl keeps coming back, it is for a reason. Marriage and relationships have consequences and can be sufficating. Some people that care about each other can be intimate without strings attached because they respect each other's freedoms. Yeah, a one night stand has no meaning or emotions involved, but with a regular repeated thing one or both people can't help but care about the other person. I've personall…
/r/seduction01/07/21 04:19 AM
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Only be fwbs with expendable people. If you truly consider her a friend, she ain't expendable. Wanting to have sex with her is something u can get past and still have a friendship. If you gain other options, those urges will fly off your shoulders easier.
/r/seduction01/07/21 04:04 AM
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That's harsh. I live in Massachusetts so I know how it feels to be ostracized for living in reality. I usually avoid talking politics. The last girl I was seeing, i avoided politics for weeks, but she just had to test me by asking my opinion about blm. I told her I don't label people as black or white, they are human fucking beings and that all lives matter to me. She goes to lecture me on how all lives can't matter until black lives matter. I asked her which one of us is saying they don't alrea…
/r/seduction01/07/21 03:49 AM
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Indeed good advice, but there are ways to draw positive attention and increase the green lights u get. It is better to attract attention than to give free attention with a no pretext cold approach. This way the girl is chasing you. I personally don't cold approach at all. Here is the gold. Make sure there are many different girls that you have to talk to with no ulterior motives as part of your normal routine. This takes the pressure off of thinking about what to say. As a landscaper, I lost cou…
/r/seduction30/06/21 05:12 PM
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Tell her that a sewing machine used by the right person gets more work done than a jack hammer used by a rookie.🤣 For real though, just tell her she is going to have to find out. Your plantain isn't as small as it seems. Women get penatrated, men do the penatrating. Any given bicho seems half as big to the male mind as it does to the female mind. I have a phenomenal cosmic boner, but some Irish shit when it's flacid, yet women will still say I ain't small even in that state, yet I can't lay it a…
/r/seduction30/06/21 04:13 PM
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It is a given that women love confidence and social value, but that ain't enough. The ability to convey your confidence and value in an outward manner is what attracts them. Things like good posture and body language, good dress and tight grooming, and having nice things is an outter conveyance of your inner confidence. Ultimately, just be a decent, empathetic person and work to be the best version of yourself u can be. Don't do it for the women, do it for yourself so you are happy with the sexy…
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:54 PM
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You would be pleasantly surprised how far you can get with a woman sober, during the day, with normal conversation. You can literally meet them just by stepping outside. You see a girl walking her dog? Greet her and ask about the pooch. You see a woman carrying a 6 pack home? Say how nice of you to buy beer for me! You trying to get me drunk?😉 just normal or funny stuff you can meet anyone anywhere
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:44 PM
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She may make a comment just to fuck with you. Just tell her you challenge her to a tonsil hockey contest, and if you win, the picture stays up...if she wins, the picture still stays up but she gets free sex🤣
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:35 PM
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Never take sexy pictures of women down for any real woman you may have over. You want to show you are comfortable with your sexuality, you are a man, you both know you like half naked women. As long as it ain't a picture of a half naked ex, the more the better! The girl will be more turned on even if she refuses to admit it. One of my recent exes was a legit "good girl" and she actually appreciated all my sports illustrated swim model posters. Trust, the girl won't be disgusted by it, she will p…
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:21 PM
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I don't think you did anything wrong, you acted on green lights which is smarter than most men that cold approach with no pretense or indicators of interest shown. she may not have been available, sometimes they like being a tease on purpose and showing green lights even though they choose to be unattainable to the guys they are showing these open gestures to. This means she may think you are attractive, but ain't willing to do anything about it...yet. Sometimes she is just not available, and/or…
/r/seduction30/06/21 03:12 PM
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I wish I had something constructive to say, but I existed well before the internet, so I hate texting and social media because I feel it takes away something from actual socializing, and because I hate it I suck at it. I find natural human interaction to be easier. messaging and texting can lack conveyance of context I will send a courtesy text to the woman asking if she got time to talk on the phone or hang out. By the time they know more about me some tend to be OK with doing things the old wa…
/r/seduction30/06/21 04:16 AM
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True, men need to prioritize developing the mindset, women are on the abundance mindset by default. They can turn on their phone and have more options then they can handle. I feel it is important that men adopt boundaries similar to that of the modern woman, and be willing to monkey branch and spin plates.
/r/seduction30/06/21 01:22 AM
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True, the pregnancy scare had nothing to do with her size, she was just a bitch trying to rope me in. I did wrap it plus withdrew it. the fact that a big girl couldn't cook a chicken correctly was the dealbreaker.
/r/seduction30/06/21 01:15 AM
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Date multiple women. Having options keeps you objective. Rejection becomes irrelevant. You won't get attached as fast and can properly heed the red flags, knowing you have other people you can see if things don't go well. You will end up turning down p#$$% when u have to.
/r/seduction29/06/21 11:48 PM
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Sounds good. I am never short on wingman, they are all willing to do that🤣
/r/seduction29/06/21 11:38 PM
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I understand that. if u already decided what to say then it's tough to bail. I recommend not going in with a scripted opener in any situation. This way it is easier to say something unique just for that person, it is more genuine, and it is easier to change it up on the fly if she turns around and turns out to be the crypt keepers daughter. As an added bonus this helps to not overthink if you are approaching someone attractive.
/r/seduction29/06/21 09:40 PM
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I really hate being mean until I start drinking so I handle it different when I'm sober. I just ask a question I can ask anybody, get my answear then walk away. "Excuse me, did you happen to see my friend walking around, blue shirt, baseball cap?" Anything like that would work.
/r/seduction29/06/21 06:47 PM
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This is complex. Usually you can just give nice compliments or act needy on purpose if you want to end the set quickly cuz she will run. Problem is, this is only useful for hot women that are undesirable due to shitty personality. This don't work on below average looking women, validation and neediness makes them want you more. This is where you may have to just tell the truth. "I do apologize, I didn't realize you weren't my type until I got close". Women do it to us, we can do it to them. #sry…
/r/seduction29/06/21 06:34 PM
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Women's guard is up the most when dressed feminine/provocative. This is when they are in cherry picking mode. You can literally have shoe lace colors they don't like, and anything you say is offensive, yet they act like brats if you completely ignore them. I don't think they are prude, they react based on perception. They decide within seconds if the dude is their type. If he is, he can get away with saying almost anything. If he isn't the girls type, anything he says can be taken as creepy/insu…
/r/seduction29/06/21 06:24 PM
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I can't do stuff that I suck at, I am way better in person that I am online, that stupid mental filter kicks in when messaging and texting before dealing with someone in person. Plus those girls are toooooo big, I'm more into thicc snow bunnies with a little bit of a gut like 180-220lbs, but I can't do whales 300lbs+, been there, done that, pregnancy scare, never again.
/r/seduction29/06/21 04:52 PM
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Lmao they are everywhere, they like scratch tickets, so many to play but few pay out.
/r/seduction29/06/21 03:54 PM
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I ain't immune to human nature, it's definitely easier to talk to someone I ain't completely interested in. I usually address this by "playing the game" with the negs and push/pull etc, making them have to guess my actual interest level, but that only works with very attractive women with many options, because I actually ain't sure of my own interest toward them, the girls society considers average see right through me cuz I actually am interested, so I don't play games with them, I feel that pu…
/r/seduction29/06/21 03:40 PM
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It's not that I ain't attracted to the smaller women, when I was developing myself my best friend told to fuck the standard method, go straight for the top and talk to the hottest girl, that is how I trained myself, so I'm definitely more relaxed around women that society considers hot, but the jitters are still there around the average looking girls that I personally consider sexy.. I also noticed alot of these women just ain't used to men hitting on them. I don't compliment hot women because t…
/r/seduction29/06/21 03:32 PM
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That's what I figured, I'm used to not showing the nerves but they are still there internally. Perhaps I'll go on a bacon and burger diet to become more compatible for them🤣
/r/seduction29/06/21 03:24 PM
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If I'm wrong I can live with that, idgaf about what people on reddit think, this is why I don't let how stuff is voted influence my objectivity when evaluating a comment. I just happen to notice that actual facts and truths that people don't want to hear take alot of downvotes.
/r/seduction29/06/21 12:49 AM
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It's all about seperating the good from the bullshit. From what I see, the people that get the most downvotes are usually correct on any subject, so pay attention to those comments. People hate the truth, they will downvote when they see it. Example: if I come on here to the seduction sub, and I claim that "a man don't need game, if he is really good-looking, the dude can get away with anything"; that will get downvotes, yet the same people that got mad know I'm right.
/r/seduction28/06/21 11:42 PM
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Just stop getting rejected, and your mood will improve.. There is no way to guarantee zero rejection but it can be cut in half. This is done by only approaching women that show you the green lights. The first words usually need to come from men, but women usually give the first non verbal signal to show they want you to talk. Dress up nice and just go shopping like normal, you aint there for women so pay attention, you see green lights all the time when you are on a purpose other than chashing w…
/r/seduction28/06/21 05:45 AM
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You could have very well done everything right, she probably jumped on some chad that is too dumb to do most things right. Sometimes you just gotta play dumb a.f. and play your own game, not what society says is strong game. Example. I was just hanging out with someone I met last night. I called her this morning. I literally broke all the rules, no 3 day wait, no texting, just called and asked if she wanted to have junk food and watch fresh prince reruns.
/r/seduction28/06/21 05:16 AM
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You can't hate the players and you can't hate the game. Learn to love the game. It is a game because it is supposed to be FUN. I picture it like basketball. I hated it because I sucked at it. The only way to enjoy it was to get good at it. I had to force myself to take shot after shot, and kept missing and missing and missing and kept hating it more.. then I got support and coaching and I eventually would start making baskets, and the more I scored the more I enjoyed the game. The point is you d…
/r/seduction27/06/21 09:14 PM
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Alot of us old people really don't. Just like how I cant use any o.s. after windows 98🤣 The dating life is still there, just way less options, me and my crowd can only really click with women that know how to put the phone down and mingle and meet people the old way. Social media acumen and strong texting game are a requirement for most women now, but this is why I avoid relationships with the young ones, the very concepts are designed for plate spinning
/r/seduction26/06/21 04:09 PM
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If you are in the United States, real relationships are more or less a thing of the past, casual sex is easier then dating. Dating requires all kinds of compatability and emotional connection and lots of money. All casual sex requires is functional genetals. First you need to play a mind trick on yourself to remind you of reality. Take your pinky and wrangle it around inside your ear, and when you pull it out, which feels better; your finger or your ear? Women like sex more than we do. They just…
/r/seduction26/06/21 03:53 PM
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The internet happened.
/r/seduction26/06/21 03:33 PM
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Women don't want men to know what actually works on them, of course some are going to put negative labels on p.u.a.s hoping that the word spreads. It is the same logic that compells female dating/seduction coaches to intentionally give advice that is the opposite of what men should actually do. It's hilarious that these dudes sometimes get called sexual harrassers. These people should look up the definition before putting labels on puas or anybody else. A person gets one free proposition before …
/r/seduction25/06/21 08:04 PM
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I feel I owe u an answer as u are the first to say something. Gracie was the name of my first dog. Fairmont was the street I lived on. Back in high school auto shop, we addressed eachother as our "adult industry names" which at the time were created by combining first pet and first street.
/r/seduction25/06/21 06:22 AM
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2007 thru 2014 I've met several women on pof and ok cupid, never anyone on tinder, and nobody on any form of internet since 2014. I've hooked up with 4 of them (repeatedly). I can safely say I got results with online dating in the past but was never "successful". Girl #1 lied about getting pregnant to try to rope me into being more than fwb. I told her I at least expect heavier set women to be able to cook a chicken correctly. She got mad enough to never contact me again, so that worked. Girl #2…
/r/seduction25/06/21 05:58 AM
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After you introduce yourself and flirt a little bit, make sure she seems interested first, then use a time constraint. (either a true or false reason you need to end the convo)then write your number down, hand it to her while saying something cocky that frames you as the prize, but in a way that can make u both laugh. Example: check your wristwatch "I'm going to have to bail, I have to meet up with snoop at the green room, if you would like the opportunity to creatively hit on me some other time…
/r/seduction25/06/21 05:28 AM
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Im trying to move to Quebec city from massachusetts if the boarder ever opens, maybe I'll find you. Idk if I can pull off strong game in Canada however. It may be too different compared to the lawless cutthroat jungle that is American dating. Offering a box of tim hortons with a side of good manners on the way to the curling bonsphiel then an elegant poutine dinner may actually work there, and idk if I can handle it😅🇨🇦
/r/seduction25/06/21 04:33 AM
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I agree that a smart woman would drop a guy trying for sex that early. Matter of fact, I would lose respect for a woman that gave me sex right away, and I wouldn't be stupid enough to pursue a commitment with that type of woman. But we ain't talking smarts or respect here. That is relationship stuff. Per the OPs request we are talking about how a woman can seduce a man. She can just literally tell the guy she wants to follow him home and have sex with him. Unless the guy is on a vow of celibacy,…
/r/seduction25/06/21 04:22 AM
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I (M34) can't even say for sure you are doing anything wrong. As much as it sucks, ghosting is the new normal. This never happened to me in the early to mid 2000s, and I was no where near the chad I am now, yet nowadays my ghosted rate is >50% I managed to keep things civil enough to eventually get answers sometimes from the women. Every one of them said something along the lines of: "I really liked you but I met someone else the next day (or later that night) and I didn't want you to feel disre…
/r/seduction25/06/21 04:05 AM
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Being easy to get I find to be more effective
/r/seduction25/06/21 01:11 AM
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Intentional blatant touching also works well. Most things work on men. Shit many men enjoy being sexually harassed, even if they didn't the jury would laugh the guy out of court.
/r/seduction25/06/21 01:10 AM
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Men need luck,timing,chemistry, looks, status, bravado, wit, gambits, flimflams, hookwinks bambozzles and strategems... Women literally only need to show up.
/r/seduction25/06/21 01:07 AM
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My exact thoughts, u beat me to it.
/r/seduction25/06/21 12:59 AM
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I don't dispute that,, yet I don't got social value, I'm introverted a.f., so either I'm an alien who breaks the laws of attraction or I was smart enough to accept female nature and created the illusion of social value so they give themself the chance to get me.
/r/seduction24/06/21 07:04 PM
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To get the confidence and approaching skills, just start small and take the steps up the ladder. You just need to do a social workout, no different than developing muscle mass, you need to start light and work your way up, and anxiety and nerves will slip away as you increase your skills. A good way to get used to talking to women is to actually directly approach with a motive, but a completly innocent one. This is a different, innocent kind of cold approach. An example of an innocent motive is …
/r/seduction24/06/21 05:36 PM
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The power of good dress and hygiene is seriously underestimated nowadays. It's literally the difference between the guys that need elaborate "game" and tactics that approach women with minimal results, and the men that get chased and have plenty of options. I am a 6 at best. I'm 5'7 wear glasses and need 2 more years worth of oral surgery to get my teeth on point. I don't even got game, I just play hard to get and random beautiful women compliment me all the time, and I have a decent dating life…
/r/seduction24/06/21 11:34 AM
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It seems easy for women because they already had dudes lined up before the breakup, if not already sleeping with them, sometimes they incite a breakup for this reason, in my experience not a single woman I dated ever had to wait more than a day or 2 to get laid after breaking up and they like to rub it in too. Just find some drunk chick and say you just broke up with someone and if she buys you shots you can give her free sex in return. Only say this to someone that you have no intention of ever…
/r/seduction22/06/21 07:54 PM
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All true, I can only give data from my point of view, but each individual has different life experiences thus prefered ways of meeting someone. Both men and women as individuals have different things that work for them. I personally have has far more success in the real world, but I know guys that kill it online, from what I see they ain't even all tall Chad's with fat wallets, but they ALL have very strong text game.
/r/seduction22/06/21 06:18 PM
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I completely agree that online dating has distorted the entire landscape, but human nature has not changed. Many women I have met irl use dating apps, but they admit to having more respect for the guy that did things the traditional way, how the 2 people met seems to matter, as I said at least I've never taken real bad disrespect or got ghosted by someone I met offline, even if they use the apps. Admittedly most of my data comes from the older crowd that existed before the internet. Even so, i s…
/r/seduction22/06/21 06:12 PM
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I am glad you were able to identify your problems and did the work to find yourself. Alot of people with social problems actually are introverts, I just want to make it clear that it is not a bad thing, it is just a different personality type, and there are certain positive traits an introvert naturally possesses. Even though I am an introvert, in my case my shyness wasnt being caused by being an introvert, it was not knowing how to utilize the power an introvert has to be functional, and when I…
/r/seduction22/06/21 12:55 PM
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I at least make them breakfast before I tell them they have to leave, I ain't a monster🤣
/r/seduction22/06/21 03:17 AM
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Abolish online dating and all aspects of your life will improve. From my point of view dating apps just dont work. I want to say between 2005 thru 2013 these apps were relevant for average guys, before ghosting became normal. I met plenty of women on them but never successfully. Hooking up dont mean success. I have had a blue ray player go missing, a car keyed, a tv smashed and one girl that wanted to start a serious relationship but let her ex keep living with her, and fully expecting me to be …
/r/seduction22/06/21 03:02 AM
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Learn early that approaching women shouldnt be a goal. Being who you want to be is the goal. If you want to be the guy that women chase, become that. You ain't a pussy for saying hi to everyone and keep on walking, this is actually badass because you are the guy they cant get. Rule #1 Women want what they cant have. When you cold approach, you are basically letting them know they can get you and your attention for nothing in return. Instead of giving free attention, command attention. Like I sai…
/r/seduction21/06/21 08:30 PM
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I appreciate you, many folks in here think I'm whack, probably because I refuse to get out of the 90s when everything was simple
/r/seduction21/06/21 04:11 AM
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Ok, "beautiful" is a positive that she dont need to be told because she has a mirror. "Dark" and/or "mysterious" is neutral. When using not just positives as part of a compliment, it shows a degree of acumen because of the push/pull nature of the statement, it leads to more banter. If he just said her eyes were beautiful it would have been "ohh....thanks", but adding "dark" and "mysterious" he is giving her material to work with to keep the convo fresh. But what do I know? I only have a lowly ps…
/r/seduction21/06/21 04:06 AM
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These interactions were between 1-2 hours in length I read your entire post, this is the only thing I see that can cause what you are dealing with. As effed up as it sounds, you may have given them too much time if it was your first interaction. I understand it is nice to keep a good interaction going, but you need to show your value by placing value on your time, if you just met her she is still just a stranger, she needs to EARN your time. Imagine if that positive 1 to 2 hour interaction happe…
/r/seduction21/06/21 03:44 AM
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Just for fun, I'm going to twist all of these into something actually viable: “Never talk about heritage or growing up on a date, keep it really light. For example talk about the weather” Talk about fun experiences and knowledge gained when growing up. Avoid the topic of weather unless there is something cool like a tornado. “Never call or send a girl a voice message, that’s creepy” If you like her, call her. (after texting to make sure she has a few minutes to talk) The ancient art of phone cal…
/r/seduction20/06/21 06:48 PM
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I told her that they are beautiful but I cannot understand shit because they look dark and mysterious. To everyone that thinks compliments are a turnoff, THIS is how a compliment is effectively delivered. There always has to be a "but..." or "however..." following the compliment, that makes it unique and not come across as fake, plus it ain't completly validating the person, it shows social acumen. Compliments ain't the enemy, too much validation is.
/r/seduction20/06/21 06:15 PM
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This is simple to decipher. Advice that bears results for one person can be completely useless for another. If someone does something that works, they rely their experience under the delusion that it applies to everybody. two different guys approach same girl with same body language, same dialog, same technique, saying the exact same things. One can easily get a phone number and the other can get a face full of mace. The one that gets the number touts that his way of doing things works for every…
/r/seduction19/06/21 08:34 PM
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Usually when a person talks way to much on purpose, it is to disarm the same sex in a group setting. If it was a one on one date, it was probably unintentional and she was just overambitious on trying to make a good impression. I say give her a couple more dates and ask her to slow down a bit.
/r/seduction18/06/21 07:07 PM
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He’s pretty lazy and puts in the bare minimum. I guess I want to know how to drive him wild and leave him wanting more. Gentlemen,THIS is exactly why you shouldnt put too much effort into a casual arrangement .
/r/seduction18/06/21 02:19 PM
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Dont be insecure fuck like I was and be honest If there is one thing I learned it is to always be honest.... ...during day game or If looking for an ltr with someone decent. If I'm at a bar just looking for whatever, I'm lying my ass off. Im a secret agent cowboy astronaut millionaire who has a court date pending to get my first name changed to Chad. Yes, women can pick up on the lies instantly but if they are attracted they just play along with it so they can get theirs. This is my shit test I …
/r/seduction18/06/21 02:47 AM
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It is all about the perception of the person on the receiving end. If she is interested, most things you say will be interesting. If she is not interested, anything you say is unwanted.
/r/seduction17/06/21 10:56 PM
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He has a point, I probably wouldnt have worded it like that but just do whatever u want for a date but the date itself or anything that happens before the physical dominance is just her classy excuse to get stuck real good, so the sooner the better.
/r/seduction17/06/21 05:04 AM
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As someone that existed before the internet and even cell phones, I can safely say you should abolish o.l.d. Unless you are part of the top 5% of Chad's beautiful peoples club, it will not be a good time. Even if you get laid off of tinder, good luck finding someone that ain't bat shit crazy, even for hookups there had to be a small degree of respect/trust. My whole thing was that if I want to avoid crazy people from the internet, I can no longer be one of them. It is best to get into seduction …
/r/seduction17/06/21 04:51 AM
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If I recall there was a man named Tyrone Curtis aka Muggsy Bogues. He was 5'3". 14 years in the NBA. And he was pretty damn good. A staggering 7.6 career assists per game average. Goes to show a persons limits only exist in their own mind. If you find your height repugnant, so will women. If you feel comfortable with it, so will the women. They got a 6th sense anything that bothers you about yourself will bother them, but the opposite holds true as well. If u are insecure about your height, deve…
/r/seduction17/06/21 04:37 AM
2

I am pretty decent at dealing with AMOGs trying to hijack the set, I just dont show a drop of sweat or a shred of envy, and make sure to keep his interacting dry, but if I'm going to give advice about it I will talk about my best friend/wingman's tactics, because he is a certified master at it. This dude will literally disarm the AMOG and most other surrounding males in a way that gets girls to go home with him on the spot. He will find a legitimate excuse to lecture the person about respect. He…
/r/seduction17/06/21 01:22 AM
2

so I didn't make a move THIS can make even an uninterested or a shy woman suddenly interested or more open. Women change their minds both ways. You became the guy she couldn't have, which reversed the situation real quick. Ignoring beautiful women while keeping a degree of presence in the radius is a pure trump card that will make them chase you.
/r/seduction16/06/21 04:06 PM
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The problem is alot of people freeze up and fuck up when the opposite sex is making themself obvious because the person knows the other is showing interest so they hesitate and start feeling the pressure, feeling like there is more to lose. THE PERSON DOES NOT MATTER. THE SKILL TO SUCCEED NEXT TIME MATTERS: The ability to remain cool and smooth under pressure like a fire fighter in order to not fuck up. Fear of a good thing is completely counterintuitive and useless.
/r/seduction16/06/21 04:00 PM
2

A common mistake amoung people that are aware they are overthinking something is they try to shut off the thinking completely. Balance is needed, you have to still do basic thinking without overthinking. Switch the brain to power save mode, not completely off! Keep in mind the fundamentals but dont get caught up in the "what ifs" that make us overthink.
/r/seduction16/06/21 01:04 AM
2

You ain't wrong. May I also add that it is unbelieveable how far you can get with a woman with regular conversation.
/r/seduction16/06/21 01:00 AM
3

1.Never approach from behind. Matter of fact never approach someone that ain't already near you. Save it for who you happen to cross paths with during the course of whatever it is you are doing or for women that put themselves around you. 2 Only compliment stuff she is in control of, never anything natural. ("I like that cute hair style you got going") This shows you are paying attention to her effort and it is more meaningful. "I like your hair" is bland and meaningless. I personally never comp…
/r/seduction16/06/21 12:55 AM
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Women loved to be approached and talked to. Matter of fact, despite what it seems, very attractive women sometimes have more trouble getting dates than their average looking friends because of approach hesitancy on the men's part. There is alot of guys complaining that approaching never works. This is because they go about in a way that is cringe a.f. The difference is motives. If a guy approaches with the motive of having fun, witty banter, a good convo will always be had, vastly increasing the…
/r/seduction16/06/21 12:39 AM
9

Approaching a woman that is getting into a car to leave is cringe a.f., this is why she lied about her age and her friend couldn't help but laugh.
/r/seduction16/06/21 12:04 AM
1

There ain't nothing complicated about this. She went for another option. You gotta remember all women have to do is open their phone and they have hundreds of options, and sorry to say some of them may be a bigger chad then you are in her eyes. When you outright ask a women out without her begging for it first, you are letting her know she can just have you when she should be EARNING you. Always keep in mind women want what they cant have. You need to reverse the frame and make yourself the priz…
/r/seduction15/06/21 06:07 PM
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Betas will always lose out. Even if a woman goes for them it is to humour the guy out of pity, it will always be over quick as soon as she finds chad. Many people mistake a sigma male for a beta, because they are rarely discussed, these are the ones that dont seem like they have the characteristics to succeed with women but they do anyway. This is actually a very hot topic in modern psychology and anthropology, as a sigma was only identified and defined in recent decades. I always thought I was …
/r/seduction15/06/21 02:56 PM
2

Exactly. Nice = Fake. Good people and nice people are two completely different animals.
/r/seduction15/06/21 02:43 PM
3

Ok ok, you did what most guys cant figure out, you picked up on some vibes or some indicators of interest before you made a move and you made the move. This was correct. You also seemed to have handled the rejection like a man, moving on unphased. Next time try saying something that reverses the frame so you enable her to make a move on you. Women want what they cant have, so be a little hard to get, and dont give attention for free by being too direct. This can be done by talking like you are t…
/r/seduction15/06/21 02:37 AM
1

You are half her age and she is divorced. You can definitly pull it off, older women need to have younger guys, it is their whole "game", just like how girls your age go for older chads like me. You dont got to be afraid to be foward with her, older women respect that, just invite her out and tell her you need to do your good deed for the day but all you have to offer is genital stimulation.
/r/seduction15/06/21 01:16 AM
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I ain't going to tell you not to give up because you should . As you said the numbers show it. Bad news: You gotta give up approaching. Good news: You got no choice but to get them to approach you. Women can detect the motive from a mile away. Prioritize your own approachability and enable women to chase you. I'm going to lay down the knowledge bomb that everyone of us knows is true: RULE#1 WOMEN WANT WHAT THEY CANT HAVE!! Use that fact when reforming your game to always be in the dominant frame…
/r/seduction14/06/21 07:50 PM
1

I dont got game and I'm by no means a Chad, but I do have a brain, and live an abundant lifestyle. Anybody can cut rejection rate by 50%+. I dont got game because I dont need it. I'm just smart enough to pick my targets. If I'm at a festival or and setting with alot of singles, I simply only talk to women that are already interested. Sometimes a mutual aquaintence will inform me of the interest, but I mostly just read my surroundings. If a woman is giving me indicators of interest (the green lig…
/r/seduction14/06/21 04:45 PM
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Any experience I can share from the 90s is null and void today, the internet has ruined everything, not only for us but the women as well. alot of attractive women are outright lying when they claim they are in a relationship. It is a way to let guys down easy when they are getting approached all day. You can tell if they are lying if they are rude and give the eye roll of death, they are just outright rejecting the guy. A girl that is telling the truth about the bf is aware she had no way of kn…
/r/seduction13/06/21 03:55 PM
10

This is where you find an older female friend to train you. I had a cute lesbian friend that was a bit older when I was younger. We figured it can stay an objective trainer/trainee relationship due to her orientation. She trained me alright. At more than kissing. So I got trained and she got converted🤣
/r/seduction13/06/21 06:15 AM
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I agree with the concept, but it ain't how it works in the u.s.a. because 95% of everyone else around the free spirited authentic person is an indoctrinated judgmental robot only attracted to what social programming says they should be attracted to, and the person that is being an actual individual doing what he wants is labeled as crazy real quick. I can only speak for canada and the Netherlands, but it seems in other societies this post completely holds true, everyone kind of does their own th…
/r/seduction13/06/21 04:03 AM
0

It is shocking how many good looking women like cuddling with a bigger guy, society just dont advertise it. Shit I literally got more action when I was fatter,but that was probably because I was ignoring women completely due to low confidence. They always had to try hard to get me to talk and wanted to know about me because I was a mystery. I had no idea at the time ignoring attractive women works like magic and makes them chase so my success stories happened completely by accident.
/r/seduction13/06/21 02:38 AM
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what I should do is become the man that girls want. This is the only advice any man ever needs. Once I got all of the p.u.a. and dating advice bullshit out of my head and started over and put in the work to be the most badass version of myself possible, everything else fell into place. Now I dont need to chase anybody, i dont need pickup lines or set routines or manipulative gaming, I get chased by the kind of women I never thought would bother with me, because I simply dont care anymore(in a go…
/r/seduction13/06/21 12:05 AM
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This goes to show the true power of passing the shit tests. Passing these tests can make the woman respect you, which is the foundation of any kind of connection between two people. Sometimes a woman will completely act uninterested, but by taking a dominant frame and calling the girl out on her games, her attitude will change real quick. Alot of guys think when these woman act a certain way or play games that that there is no chance with her, but it is the opposite, a woman giving a shit test i…
/r/seduction12/06/21 09:12 PM
1

I can back this. I always preach confidence is what matters, a person can have all the confidence in the world, but if said confidence is not conveyed in an outward manner then it becomes irrelevant. The number one outward indicator of high confidence is definitly good posture and how a man carrys himself. I noticed a pattern in life, 100% of the guys that the women are drawn to have the posture, their other features such as looks and financial value and attitude all vary greatly. I know this fr…
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:44 PM
2

(physically flirting only) No woman will physically touch any man she ain't attracted to, exception being hugs from relatives. That being said she pre selected you, you can be at ease you really cant fail now, just dont fuck up, just avoid big turnoffs, you are in the lead it's your game to lose now. Dont feel like a creep (you have no reason to)and she wont see you as a creep. Shit if some girl is physically flirting with me I'm asking her if she wants to have a 1 on 1 tonsil hockey contest, in…
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:48 AM
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I'm not sure if I should congratulate you or warn you. So congrats, I'm glad u got the confidence boost, but now the warning: DONT SHIT WHERE YOU EAT!!! Be good friends with female coworkers (off the clock, stay objective on the clock), many will be happy to be a wing-girl for you, which by extension you can meet many girls you dont work with. Be careful because women love to date male coworkers, and many if not most of us have fell for it they feel it's a nice way to lock a guy down because it'…
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:39 AM
1

I think you can get a good start with the observational humor. (I just did a post reply about o.s.a you seem to already know about that), but that is to create familiarity, once you feel the girl is into talking to you, maybe flirting with you verbally or non verbally, escalation must occur. I personally ain't a jerk by nature, I like giving compliments, but in a way that escalates. This can be done with a compliment that reverses the frame and doubles up as a statement of intent. You have to us…
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:25 AM
1

I hate cold approaching. I try to put myself in the womans mind and it can be weird a.f. It's like a sales guy making random calls out of yellow pages with no leads. Even the top p.u.a.s in field footage shows big rejection rates doing this, which is why in field footage is rarely shown or heavily edited. However, warm approaching is beast. It is easiest with somebody your already acquainted with through hobbies, social groups, gym, watering hole, work etc...however... ...it is entirely possible…
/r/seduction12/06/21 02:01 AM
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It ain't the muscles it's the confidence that comes with them. Just like tall and wealthy men and jerks and narcissists and dudes with nice cars and lifestyles have higher confidence. See the pattern there? Of course on swiping apps the girls are going for the tall muscular dudes, these apps exist to enable womens cherrypicking based on photos. In real life if you really want something or someone, you will get it if you do the work to maximize confidence. I was seeing one of the cheerleading cap…
/r/seduction12/06/21 01:38 AM
2

Jokingly accuse her of secretly wanting to date you.
/r/seduction11/06/21 11:35 PM
3

I'm one of those idiots that still believes in chivalry, it's how I was raised. I decided not to fight it, but I try to be a tease at the same time. I just started working on the logic that women want what they cant have. One example I got from recently: I was at the bar with my wingman when the women's softball team was there. Very good girl to guy ratio in our favor. These girls are picky af, they have the right to be. We just sat at the bar and purposely ignored these beautiful women and were…
/r/seduction11/06/21 03:14 PM
13

So many times I have gotten close to attractive women but couldn't seal the deal, and some would even tell me that it is because I am not expendable and they dont want me to feel disrespected when they go out and do their own thing. "You are boyfriend material, these guys I mess with are expendable." Fuck that. I dont want to wait x amount of years for a woman to seek me for a relationship when she decides to call it quits on the plate spinning lifestyle, i want to be the plate that gets spun. I…
/r/seduction11/06/21 03:30 AM
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I call bullshit. I am 5'7" with bad teeth. My rejection rate was 99% until I learned how to read people. I dont get alot of outright rejection because of the simple way I meet women. I cut the rejections by more than half. I make sure I look and smell great with tight grooming and accent my good features. I do not approach women that ain't already interested. Simple. I know how to read the room and only talk to women that are already giving me the green light with inviting gestures and body lang…
/r/seduction10/06/21 04:43 PM
1

Cut her off now. You kept yourself in the dominant frame, and set boundaries from the beginning and made it known you are seeing other women. This is exactly what younger women love, she will fight to make you choose her over the others. Ironic that the same stuff that attracts them sexually also makes them get attached emotionally. This works like ultimate magic for initial attraction, but can easily turn into a draining situation if she isnt the kind of girl that can be put into the potential …
/r/seduction10/06/21 04:08 AM
4

The naked man. Works 2 out of 3 times. I guarantee it. Just have someone hold some bail out money for the other 1 out of 3 times.
/r/seduction09/06/21 07:34 PM
1

That is where I dont get it, most nurses are naturally caring and many are super attractive. I've dated a few in my life. But I met them through day game or friends, there is something wrong at the bars🤣
/r/seduction09/06/21 04:20 AM
1

I actually have some good stories involving nurses, but there is something wrong with happy hour specifically, maybe cuz they were just working with Dr.. Chad only to end up in a blue collar joint immediately after. The story involves drinks thrown in faces just for chillin at my regular spot over nothing. I was wingmaning for a friend, and I got it just by walking up before I could even say "hi, have you met..." SPLASH!! "GO AWAY SICK PERV!! It burned. They been there driving away customers eve…
/r/seduction09/06/21 04:16 AM
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You at least know how to read if someone is interested, that is the thing alot of guys miss. You are getting the green lights. It is very hard to fail in these situations since the girl already pre selected u in her mind. The problem is we know that, so sometimes it can trigger that illogical fear of failure some of us sometimes get. A good exercise is knowing she already sees u as "the prize", just call her out on it when she gives open signals. Do this within 3 seconds so u dont hesitate or se…
/r/seduction08/06/21 08:27 PM
3

I'm 5'5", kind of ruggedly thicc, I support myself on normal money, and my social skills are at medium levels at best. I have had beautiful women approach me routinely, the kind I used to think I could never get and were out of my league. My whole thing is ignoring hot women and talking to average ones in front of them, then they just have to make their presence known and start hovering and talking. This is what I've always done, it's my genuine self, I just discovered it works well completely b…
/r/seduction08/06/21 06:54 PM
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"Hey, did you go to my high school and have Mr. So and So for chemistry?" This is what u did right. You found innocent pretext to interact. This makes you not creepy. No need for a fat wallet or dashingly good looks, as long as a person got something relevant to say and some basic social skills, there is no such thing as a place where talking to women is wrong or off limits. Exception: certain nurses at happy hour. Idc if me or my homeboys ain't their type, we just there to chill, but good grief…
/r/seduction08/06/21 06:06 PM
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I can agree with that to a degree, I know my reality isnt everyone elses, from my point of view of personal experience it was the same thing 100% of the time, I didnt realize until recent years it was always the same thing because I was the problem, but I still tend to generalize, I feel I have legit backing to do so when it was the women admitting it to me, not a creation of my own mind.
/r/seduction08/06/21 02:17 PM
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This is exceedingly hard for me due to scoliosis. I learned how to not let it get me down, because some women are sympathetic towards cripples, I hate relying on the fact, but at least they approach sometimes giving me the chance to show my bravado. I do find that going swimming can help me stand straight for a short time, but other then that, I use alternatives that anybody can use. I found that keeping my feet pointed straight in front of me and keeping my palms open to who I am talking with i…
/r/seduction08/06/21 01:49 PM
2

The drama is not your enemy here, you are pre qualified to this group, you already hooked up with one of them. They are in competitive mode, they may act weird or harsh to you around each other, but you can actually get any one of them, the key is pick one and isolate her from her friends and you are good. This is why many men make their conquests known and sometimes intentionally incite drama.
/r/seduction08/06/21 01:19 AM
2

I find that in most situations on reddit, the more downvotes you get, the more correct you are, people dont accept reality. She is definity hung up on an ex, if not that she is too busy plate spinning or monkey branching to even bother. 100% of the time a woman was into me but changed her mind, she eventually admitted it was one of these reasons.
/r/seduction08/06/21 12:27 AM
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and I got her number. In front of my son's mother. This is the only dating advice anybody ever needs. I have no idea why but success rate definitly skyrockets with the ex as part of the set based on what I witnessed +my own couple experiences.
/r/seduction07/06/21 03:17 AM
2

Take comfort in the fact that literally anything you say to a man will work as long as he ain't truly committed to someone. Men need timing, luck, skill, chemistry, looks, charisma, and 2000 other factors, a woman just needs to dress nice and be willing to talk.
/r/seduction07/06/21 12:42 AM
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This is the only approaching advice anyone ever needs. Only go after the choosers. If you only ask out women that you can tell are interested by reading their non verbal cues and tone/dialog, it is very hard to fail, success rate in the 90s is very possible, you ain't propositioning anybody that dont want to be.
/r/seduction05/06/21 12:58 AM
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I am 5'5". I completely get where you are comming from. I had a lifetime rejection rate of 99% until recent years. Life is not fair, but women do have the right to be selective. Once I accepted the cutthroat unfairness of human nature instead of fighting it I started doing much better, and realized I ain't a victim, I'm a human, and there is always a solution. Women love tall dudes and they also love money. Solution=work hard and get money.
/r/seduction04/06/21 09:21 PM
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Finally somebody knows what they are doing.😎 If a person has a normal human ability to read people, they dont need any elaborate gameplan, this is the difference between the guy who chases women with nothing to show for it, and a guy who gets chased and has many options. I find that this singular ability to gauge a womans interest through her tone/dialog and her non non verbal signals/vibe practically eliminates rejection and bad interactions because you arent hitting on anybody that isnt intere…
/r/seduction01/06/21 02:03 AM
1

Her: I have a boyfriend. You: I have a math test. Her:??? You. We both have something we can cheat on.
/r/seduction01/06/21 01:15 AM
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the good news is you are out approaching, and I applaud you, you are on your way to becoming chadnificent. 82 approaches is too much work for no real results. You can actually get a 50% success rate for exchanging contact info by doing one simple thing...scan for the green lights. As men we make the approach and initialize the conversation, u realize this, which is why you getting used to approaching is very important. While it usually falls on us to make verbal first contact, the woman ALWAYS m…
/r/seduction31/05/21 03:35 AM
2

Or ... go the simple route and just be really good looking. It certainly dont hurt to have a nice place and wine and dine the girl, but if she finds you physically appealing you can get away with almost anything. Even if you suck at conversation and all you got is canned ravioli, the girl will still chase you and keep you talking and engaged if you are physically her type, no strategems, gambits, flimflams, or bamboozles required.
/r/seduction31/05/21 02:52 AM
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I couldn't agree more. Women are important, but every man needs things to do that are even more important, like focusing on goals, fitness,hobbies, relationships with family and friends. A woman should be like a protein shake-a supplement to an already good life. If you got a good life and on your purpose, and always have something better to do, rejection in all forms becomes irrelevant and you move on unphased like a man, and you will never again have to worry about "what to say".
/r/seduction29/05/21 11:26 AM
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Great job I hope this boosts your morale. Just evaluate the situation and ask yourself what could have made her not respond and use the data to your advantage in the future. She simply may have not been available and chose to humour you and gave you a number with no intention to respond. If she was a very attractive woman she could have been nitpicking, it could have been something as petty or irrelevant as the color of your shoes, or she took u walking past her at first as a sign of lack of con…
/r/seduction28/05/21 03:32 PM
1

You are good you can actually be yourself and not over think it. Older women love younger guys, getting them is their whole "game", just as younger females chase older guys. I preferred dating older women at your age, they want to prove to themselves they can pull it off, and they are alot more polite and refined, they didnt grow up in the social media age, they can be very cultured. You got nothing to worry about. You can go in there with no game at all, you can even go in visibly nervous, she …
/r/seduction28/05/21 04:05 AM
1

So if I want to attract this girl Karen.....
/r/seduction28/05/21 03:55 AM
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