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GrayFoxHops/r/seduction09/08/13 03:05 AM
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Field ReportGrayFoxHops/r/seduction01/12/13 10:07 AM
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GrayFoxHops/r/seduction14/06/14 11:03 PM
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True, though routines/techniques can help a guy who has it together, they're not going to actually get you put together. Besides, it feels better to be actually awesome rather than feeling like you are tricking people into thinking you're awesome haha. Thanks! Yeah I feel good about 4. Those experiences gave me a way better foundation for how to have girls over in the future as well.
/r/seduction29/10/14 07:41 AM
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Aw shucks, thanks! I watched the Pickup Artist TV show (w/ Mystery) and all the guys failed to stop a woman while she was walking the opposite direction, so I kind of took it as a challenge. For a long time I would try to engage when the girl was already too close and she would just walk by, but when you give her time to react from 10-15 feet away, she has time to override her default response of ignoring a guy trying to talk to her. I heard RSD Jeffy say the same thing.
/r/seduction29/10/14 07:31 AM
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Well yeah, that's kind of the point of PUA. Sidewalk day-game is difficult but far from impossible. 2 things which helped that I left out were that my wing was standing behind me laughing at what I was doing and that I also had her draw something for me midway through the interaction. Total time was probably 6 or 7 minutes. I opened by calling out, "my wife, I've missed you" from 10 feet away before embracing her. Since she was already laughing when I got to her, there weren't any alarm bells go…
/r/seduction29/10/14 06:42 AM
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Agreed, yeah I was trying to ask for advice with this post, I was just acknowledging that pickup works. Like if a newbie was doubting that it was a good investment of their time. Also yeah, I was going all-out that day, and for her to sleep with me on the first date required some rapport beforehand.
/r/seduction29/10/14 06:35 AM
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It sounds like you made her feel judged. As if you would look down on her for being a "bad girl." Don't project that you want her to settle down and give up the party lifestyle etc., that's what she should be trying to get you to do IMO.
/r/seduction29/10/14 03:07 AM
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Essentially it sounds like you are flipping the question, or "blame" back on them. It's good to have open discussion, I would just be careful not to guilt the girl when you flip the question. That said, it's really important not to take things personally, which is what I think you're getting at. A nice work I discovered recently is "The Four Agreements" which is Toltec philosophy adapted by Don Miguel Ruiz. They are as follows: Be Impeccable with Your Word Don't Take Anything Personally Don't Ma…
/r/seduction23/06/14 03:23 AM
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I see, that makes sense, thanks for the reply. I guess I'm insecure about the fact that I'm there to meet people. I have a wing-ish person that I can bring but he always AMOG's me so I try not to, which I also can't explain to the girls haha. Some of the things I've come up with are: I drank a lot of caffeine today and I don't want to mix it with alcohol (it's medically a bad idea to mix stimulants and depressants) (this is true everyday) My friends and I got separated, but I think it's healthy …
/r/seduction20/06/14 06:34 AM
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It's generally a bad idea to talk about, especially considering that a lot of people have a misconceived notion of what PUA is about. My friend told all of his friends when I had first started approaching. It was a novelty to them. I didn't really get made fun of, actually it opened the door for some people to try giving me advice, but it does change people's impression of you. Really alpha guys will think it's silly, generally. From now on I will only tell people who I think might want in, or w…
/r/seduction19/06/14 07:29 PM
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I got interested in NLP before reading The Game but was turned off when I read material that discredited it. Perhaps I should read the original Princes into Frogs. I think since NLP mostly relies on thoughts and feelings, it is a much harder thing to test, measure, or verify, so people assume it's completely fake.
/r/seduction19/06/14 12:06 AM
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Oh! Yeah I'm surprised that works. I bought Models as an ebook a few days ago so I might give this a go. Thanks for the reply. I think it would be hard for me to drop all of my "game" defenses because I am so used to girls in bars/clubs trying to fuck with me. I get lied to by almost every girl that I approach in some manner even if I am just being friendly without running game. I guess that's something I could talk about to girls haha. It actually really hurt my feelings when a girl and her fri…
/r/seduction19/06/14 12:01 AM
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Very cool! At one point, she asked if I was for real or playing. Your reply? I'm curious if you still had to use game to pass a shit-test or if the rules change given the approach you're describing. IMO you are still using a strategy.
/r/seduction18/06/14 10:45 PM
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This can work as a fun opener, i.e. I was holding coffee in one hand and my unopened umbrella in the other. I stopped a cutie to ask her if she could help me open my umbrella since my hands were full. So she had to get in close to me a bit as she opened it, and it was fun because it was such an odd request.
/r/seduction18/06/14 08:55 PM
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Hm, okay I may have to look into his PUA material. I was mainly commenting on the theory of Neuro-linguistic programming, which is what The Game describes as his strategy.
/r/seduction18/06/14 08:53 AM
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The way I think about it is that women will either see you as low status (i.e. someone they don't want to have over, who you don't need to apologize to, and who has no women) or high status (someone who should come over, who you should apologize to when you do something bad, and who has women). When you bring a girl with you or kiss a girl, and other girls see you leading and successfully making moves like that, they know that you have already qualified as high status to the other girl. It is ba…
/r/seduction17/06/14 07:27 PM
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The obvious one would be "The Game," but it's really 50% entertainment 50% pickup material. A lot of it draws from the Mystery Method and stuff from Ross Jeffries, which are both very outdated IMO. MM could still work but I think it's a bit cheesy. Ross Jeffrie's work is considered pseudoscience at best. The guy was probably just confident ;) That said, I've been enjoying it a lot and it has some relevant material, like covering the concepts of one-itis, peacocking, and other terms.
/r/seduction17/06/14 07:14 PM
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Well as a guy, I have no problem with women being open about their sexual desires, or comfortable with the idea of sex. I think sluttiness is more about having no perspective of morals in regard to sex. It's no problem if a woman wants to have sex. The complications arise when she is in a relationship and wants to have sex with random people, or she wants to have sex with someone who is in a relationship.
/r/RedPillWomen12/12/13 01:29 AM
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I'm not sure if there is actually any truth to this though. It's a nice metaphor, but the natural alphas that I know always project on people that they are perfect. Girls get wowed by it and end up wanting to sleep with them. Very little of the projection is true, but what matters to the girls is how self-absorbed these guys are. It becomes attractive to them, because they know that the guy has high self-esteem and is a go-getter. Thoughts?
/r/seduction07/12/13 03:05 AM
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There is no "unapproachable" situation. There are situations which have a very low chance of success. The thing that makes those low chances of success seem like actual barriers is your fear of rejection, knowing the odds full well. I'm assuming that you have not approached anyone at the gym before. A rule that I have learned to follow is "don't shit where you eat," meaning "don't practice approaching in places that you need for your life." This includes dorms, apartment buildings, and gyms. I'v…
/r/seduction07/12/13 02:53 AM
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Agreed. It's especially hard outside of coffee shops or classes at my University. On places like the train, because the train is seen as a "dangerous" place the girls become extremely defensive and wary. I will try to fish for comfort first rather than romantic attraction and see if that helps.
/r/seduction01/12/13 08:56 PM
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Thanks man!
/r/seduction01/12/13 08:53 PM
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Thanks dude! To be fair, I'm kind of whining a bit about the AFCs haha, but only because I wanted to ask what I could have done better.
/r/seduction04/09/13 12:44 AM
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My apologies, I agree and have tried to change it to be more clear. The details aren't super important to me, I wanted advice on diffusing guys who are trying to "get in on the fun" but then start to blow out a set. Everything worked out in this case but I feel like it could have been executed more cleanly.
/r/seduction04/09/13 12:41 AM
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I see where you were going with the three times approaching her, getting a little more specific and reconfirming the date, but you could be right that the third time was pushing it. Maybe it would've helped to throw in that it was hard to talk to her while she was working and you guys should talk when she's not so preoccupied, on either the first or second time you talked to her. Either way, the important thing is that you have the reference. That's awesome. I have never had it work for me, but …
/r/seduction30/08/13 08:56 PM
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Nice job! Being this direct usually doesn't work IMO, but it feels good to just go balls-out. I have the same problem of being too eager and not giving her the chance to chase, but remember that she should be hoping for a date with you, not the other way around. For only being at this about 3-4 months I would say this is fantastic, and a necessary step in learning. Just remember that women appreciate tact. Hey, maybe she won't flake though, you never know.
/r/seduction30/08/13 08:21 PM
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get her number and text first Always. She will not text you if you give your number unless you made a stunning impression. I usually tie the #-close into saying that we're going to do something like, "Let's do [insert fun thing here] sometime, throw your number in my phone."
/r/seduction28/08/13 06:41 PM
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Thanks! Sorry about that either way. I tried to keep it vague enough for general advice, but I guess it only applied to one situation. Much appreciated!
/r/seduction26/08/13 09:07 AM
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I guess this shows more vulnerability too, and therefore might be more attractive behavior. No reason to hide true intentions, though you have to make sure she doesn't run away with being asked on a date as just an ego trip and thinking that she doesn't have to work for you. The danger is that you have to still make sure she is chasing you. I will start using it. I was always suggested to not refer to them as dates because "people just don't do that anymore" but whatever, lol.
/r/seduction21/08/13 08:45 PM
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This is great, man! I've always just done the approach of "let's hang out" rather than give away that they already have my approval, but maybe I should ask on dates instead. It bothers me when it is clearly because I like them and they play it off like we were just hanging out as friends when I make a move. I am undecided as to what to do about the "let's hang out" versus "let's go on a date" but anyway, great work dude!
/r/seduction21/08/13 08:35 PM
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I usually make friends with these girls, but draw clear boundaries. I don't think it's worth getting frisky with someone in a relationship, for many reasons. I would say that I feel more honest with myself when I refrain from escalating with girls who are in a relationship.
/r/seduction13/08/13 10:38 PM
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This belongs on /r/askseddit. Anyway, you need to generate attraction in person. She doesn't sound like she's itching to get your attention. Make her chase. Otherwise, move on.
/r/seduction12/08/13 05:10 AM
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Well I wouldn't be mad at the woman, I was saying "ahhh, shit" to the guy out of empathy that he didn't have any luck with her. Thanks for the advice. I was talking to a girl that ended up having a boyfriend and then immediately said, "your boyfriend sounds lame!" as a joke to make it clear that I was trying to flirt with her and she just replied with a smile, "sorry, you're barking up the wrong tree" but we still ended up becoming friends. That's sort of the same thing as the dog kicking guy yo…
/r/seduction11/08/13 01:29 AM
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Good to know! Hah... I still could've done better, i.e. kept control of my vocal tone but it was a loss either way.
/r/seduction10/08/13 06:42 AM
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The point is that you don't have to over-complicate things so much to start the interaction. It was never about saying hi = getting laid. You just have to talk to the girls was his point.
/r/seduction10/08/13 06:41 AM
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It is nice that you would respond positively, but people should also know that many women would go cold after hearing this, IMO.
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:58 PM
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How am I supposed to make someone feel interesting and relevant if they won't admit to having any qualities? This is what threw me way off with the girl I talked to because she claimed to have no hobbies but drinking. I tried to tease other things out of her playfully, i.e. "oh come on now, you must do something else for fun. Like painting? Do you play an instrument? Do you also dance when you drink?" Each time she held to the frame that she only ever drinks. Which may have been true but I doubt…
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:56 PM
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Ahhh! This is true, and really something to think about.
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:44 PM
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If she has a nice face then I'm not going to dismiss her for being 30+ but they had scrunched up chins. Is that shallow or do I just know what I want?
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:40 PM
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This makes sense but he seemed to have an idea of what I shouldn't be doing. He gave me a bit of advice about not straying to weird topics right away. As long as they are a grounded person I think it's fine.
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:39 PM
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Yeah actually having him open her made me look like a chump because she knew I wouldn't have been able to do it myself. I have only been able to open girls in context, i.e. "nice camera! What're you taking pictures of?" Now that I've seen it done, I am 100% sure that I can open without an opener other than "hello." I have been trying to get some muscle, right now I am just an average build. I have protein powder for after workouts. I will definitely step it up. That's good advice.
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:37 PM
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Thanks for the reply! He tried to escalate with her even though she was married. Her excuse was "people are watching" rather than "no, I'm married." I would never personally go after someone who is married but I am also not in need of friends. Your advice is good, it's just that I have no desire to get to know a married woman. If I frame the interaction starting as friendly, and I then try to transition it, that could make it more difficult as opposed to making my flirty intentions clear right a…
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:32 PM
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Well this was just sort of a random encounter. If a guy is good at pickup, he is probably outgoing to begin with so doesn't mind people talking to him.
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:20 PM
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I don't live in NYC, I'd never seen someone actually consistently approaching and approaching well before. It was cool to actually see it happen so it seems more achievable. Plus he never studied pickup but basically already knew it.
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:19 PM
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Situation lines can be nice if it's really just a contextual conversation starter rather than a "line." This guy didn't even perceive how his game worked, it was just automatic AKA natural game. So to him all he had to do was say hello. He did say he usually asks the girl what she likes to do for fun, once he saw he do it. It has to be genuine. Using a canned line like that will never work if she can tell it's canned. "Hello, my name is [], what's yours?" "Nice to meet you []. So what do you lik…
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:16 PM
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The girl I crash/burned with seemed to understand after I just said, "I'm sorry, I'm trying my best," as in she wasn't going to pepper spray me but I also obviously wasn't getting laid. They will still think something like what you said was annoying because they think they deserve better than being someone's practice.
/r/seduction09/08/13 04:09 PM
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Sorry man!
/r/seduction08/08/13 08:11 PM
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I wouldn't recommend pointing out a "favorite facial feature." She hasn't decided how anything looks except her hair, and I know girls who have deep insecurities about some of their features. Better to stick with complimenting things she has control over.
/r/seduction08/08/13 06:30 PM
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Sometimes girls will get turned on if they like you and see you struggling to not look at their breasts, but on the whole you should be holding eye contact to generate attraction. You need to be thinking about communicating with them, not their boobs. For me, making eye contact is so much more rewarding. If you hold eye contact, she will start to smile because she knows you are gazing soulfully into her eyes as long as you are doing it with a good heart and not staring blankly. Having a little s…
/r/seduction08/08/13 06:26 PM
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She had already rejected you, don't push it. Your job is to game and generate attraction so that she doesn't reject you when you actually make a move. That said, bartenders are always supposed to be nice. Don't surround yourself with pillows. Talk to the unpredictable women around the bar. If the bartender smack talks you, throws a drink in your face, etc. she will get fired. Talk to the women that actually pose a risk because higher risk moves are the attractive ones. I recently made a post abo…
/r/seduction08/08/13 05:50 PM
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Post this on /r/askseddit "She is currently breaking up" sounds like she told you she was breaking up but is not really. It sounds like she wanted you to fuck her, with you thinking she was breaking up to justify it to yourself, and then she could just continue dating her boyfriend. She is probably annoyed that you didn't fuck her, thinks you're a pussy for having a sense of honor rather than just wanting to fuck, and is not interested in hooking up anymore. Unfortunately this happens to me all …
/r/seduction08/08/13 05:44 PM
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Thanks for the reply. How can I calibrate lower-key when it requires such a bold move to get these girls' attention? Just let 90% of them go? The reason that I made the post was because these girls are in such huge numbers but they are all doing something specific that makes it hard to approach without going all out. By "lacking calibration" do you mean the examples I used were far too extreme and sexual? I don't see how I can be timid and still arrest her attention in any way... This is the sam…
/r/seduction03/08/13 07:30 AM
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Yeah I guess you're right that I probably need to lighten up. It can be stressful though because things can go horribly wrong for someone who sucks at approaching, i.e. mace/pepper spray. Never gotten either of those, but I've also not tried to approach in a high risk situation. In the end though, even if I piss off all 30+ sunbathers at once, I don't think they are going to gang up and murder me so it should be fine. Thanks for the advice!
/r/seduction03/08/13 07:08 AM
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Yeah he says not to bother trying to get girls who aren't interested to be interested. It's like you have already failed at the point you need to justify to her why she should hang out with you.
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:53 PM
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You're right, I should stop over-analyzing. There are so many of them though that I wanted to sort through them and move on from uninterested ones without too much effort. Low effort isn't going to work though. where I'm personally more cautious is with sun bathers. In my experience, they do mainly want to get a tan. And the fact that she's half naked and lying down while you're standing, puts her in an awkwardly disadvantaged position. When I was debating approaching one, I figured that I would…
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:40 PM
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That would be nice! The model's photographer is the only one with the picture though, haha... I wish I had put more pressure on myself to ask for a copy via email but I had just gotten back into approaching after a long period of being stuck in my home town during part of the summer, and I had forgotten a lot of important things. Going back home always kills my self-esteem. I still regret not getting the pic, but there's nothing I can do...
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:35 PM
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Right, right. I was just using the word in a weird way. I mean that they fall into a certain category while they are in the act of performing a certain action i.e. jogging. There are openers and things to consider about girls while performing these actions. I just think of them in my head as "the joggers," but of course they are still as complex as any other person.
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:33 PM
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply. This is all very good. The one point that I disagree with would be: why should all the pressure be on you, when you have needs too and it's not clear at all whether any random girl on the beach would meet them or not. The pressure has always been on the guy to make a move. The only way to find out if a girl is worth it would be to open her. No girl is going to open a guy unless she is extremely different than most girls, and the more girls that I open, the more l…
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:30 PM
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What? I said in the post it's for practice. Some guys have AA. Approaching a HB10 is good for getting experience, and the next time a guy who has nerves won't be as nervous when approaching because he has done it before... If you have always been a natural, then there would be no need to approach a HB10 except to try to close. I made this post for guys who cannot approach. Edit: Plus it is easy and fun.
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:55 AM
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Ah! Okay I wasn't aware of the term. I knew that it was advice only good for newbies, but I think there are probably still some new readers on Seddit, right? Thanks for the info, maybe I should take this post down and just look for material on them in the sidebar. Also, does the community try to close these girls, or are they basically hard-wired to only pretend interested? I would also like some links if you have a rundown somewhere.
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:51 AM
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Sounds good man. I think NYC, and places like Chicago, are going to be a bit easier than Texas, for sure. Hopefully! Good luck.
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:48 AM
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Ahhh I see. Yeah those other guys are insecure because they assume you have a huge cock. They're probably resentful of your girl for "abandoning" her "own kind". Extremely immature guys... Sorry you have to deal with that. I know first hand that it can happen almost automatically, unfortunately. I am not racist at all, but my brain has 3 seconds of being super upset when I see a big black dude with a hot white girl. I don't know why, I really don't have any problem with interracial couples but i…
/r/seduction02/08/13 04:00 AM
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Girls you are with get teased a lot for being with you? You're asking how you should react? Personally, I would say don't react. It's not worth a second of your time to acknowledge an AFC trying desperately to convince your girls they are with the wrong guy. She is laughing because he is an AFC. What can you do with an AFC as a girl besides laugh or say "how sad..." ?
/r/seduction02/08/13 02:29 AM
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Thank you very much. I'm so short on time, and needed this so I could get out and approach more women over the summer ASAP. I'm tired of reading and want to find pretty girls! Thanks for the assist :)
/r/seduction02/08/13 02:21 AM
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Yes, this is very true. I should correct myself and say that it's not just about sleeping with women.
/r/seduction31/07/13 02:39 AM
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Part of seduction is putting your heart and soul into it. It's not really even about fucking women. To me, it's about embracing the idea of being a man and being in control. Maybe you are tired of this game because you keep playing by the same rules. Try something new. Try getting women to sleep with you without having to say a word, only use hand signals. Or try wearing a really weird hat when you work the field. If this isn't your passion anymore, then so be it.
/r/seduction31/07/13 12:40 AM
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Agreed as well... OP is referencing really old ideas or simply misconceptions as Seddit material, and then describing actual Seddit material as being better than Seddit material? Huhhhh...
/r/seduction27/07/13 04:53 AM
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10-15 times over the next year... I didn't get much of a one-night stand vibe from her. I also had a little bit of an existential crisis the next day. I'm pretty sure I'm never gonna be able to land anyone more attractive than her. This girl was it. You just fucked a HB9 in a single day and are already thinking about pursuing a LDR with her? Seeing someone 10-15 times a year is not enough to sustain a new relationship. There will be more girls. It was literally your first time and you are thinki…
/r/seduction16/07/13 08:47 AM
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Post in /r/PDXSeddit, it's the new-ish Portland pickup subreddit but there are only a few people on there as far as I know. The point is that they have good ideas about where to approach and stuff, maybe there will be meetups soon. I know that the first cold approach can feel like a shock, but you just have to keep approaching and get better with practice. Don't feed off of good results, feed off of progress even if you fail. Learn and apply what you've learned in a cycle. The game has come in s…
/r/seduction07/07/13 08:54 AM
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Cool!
/r/seduction27/05/13 03:01 AM
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Seduction isn't about "tricking" women for me at all. It is about breaking the social conditioning that has been placed on me not to talk to/touch women. More so, it is about growing as a person. TRP is a critical analysis of many things, which includes the PUA community. However, this does not put TRP above the PUAs. PUAs build inner game and confidence so that they can be more successful in all aspects of their lives, i.e. school/jobs/women. I can tell you first hand that without the PUA commu…
/r/TheRedPill26/05/13 10:04 AM
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I'll be in Portland over the summer but I'm not 21... Hell yes for day game. However, I'll warn you, I'm mainly only good at taking rejection after rejection without giving up. I am still only #-closing.
/r/seduction26/05/13 05:50 AM
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Yeah, not everything is a shit-test. Shit-tests put you on the spot in a specific sort of way, and are usually in the form of a question or spoken statement. I don't think a girl will consciously fake a reflex of turning her head away from you. Learning the difference between a shit-test and a normal question is like learning the difference between a troll and someone who is just being an asshole.
/r/seduction25/05/13 06:12 PM
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I think you're right. I guess it's a good thing that I commented.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/13 09:37 PM
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The best solution seems to be to stop pursuing long term relationships with women. I almost feel like I don't even want to practice pickup anymore because this is the conclusion that I have reached over and over. I can't bring myself into a one-night-stand mentality, but I know that it's the only thing that makes sense if I want to remain happy and independent.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/13 08:04 PM
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I would agree that holding the door open is a risky move these days. Transgressive/liberal/feminist girls hate that kind of stuff. You have to know the views of the girl, really. IMO: Conservative girl: Walk slightly ahead. Hold open the door for her and let her walk past you, putting your hand on her lower back. Liberal girl: Let her walk slightly in front of you, perhaps with a hand on her back. Let her open the door as you both walk in.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/13 07:53 PM
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The only person that makes you "lose face" is yourself when you let the rejection affect you. Handle the rejection in whatever way is most entertaining or satisfying to you. I have gone with "nice to meet you, enjoy your night with your cellphone" when a girl was just texting and not engaged with the conversation at all, but most of the time as long as she is polite with the rejection I just say "fair enough" and walk away. There is no need for a pointed remark or comeback unless you really feel…
/r/seduction24/05/13 04:28 AM
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As long as the humor isn't self-deprecating. Also, people have told me before that they basically don't trust me because I turned almost everything into a joke and couldn't take anything seriously. So I have started to joke less. You should never become dependent on your humor. Be able to have a deep conversation if the girl wants to be intellectual. Deep conversations are more likely to lead into conversations about sexual experience IMO. Basically, be the guy that makes people laugh rather tha…
/r/seduction23/05/13 05:48 AM
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This would be my guess: I don't think that most pickup is for investing in a long term relationship. "Shitty games" are only annoying when in the role of being someone's significant other, whereas in pickup they are part of gaming the girl. The important thing is being able to quickly bypass whatever a woman uses to determine whether or not she will sleep with a guy. How "respectable" a woman is doesn't really matter if one is just staying with her for one night. The "Alpha" guys are the ones wh…
/r/seduction17/05/13 05:20 AM
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Don't worry about it, I've seen posts by other M20 that describe really good game in the club, and I feel inferior cause I've only been to the club once (didn't dance with anyone either). Everyone has their own way, and everyone has a different starting point. That said, it's still important to progress. So reach your goal of not being a pussy on your own accord. If you can use my example as a milestone, then all the better. Best of luck!
/r/seduction31/01/13 11:56 PM
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I agree. The weird part is that I have more self confidence rather than less after putting my ego through the blender. Perhaps the important thing is that one knows that they took the actions that they wanted to, and their self perception is grounded in "myself" rather than the judgments of other people. Rejection can feel like winning as long as you take a lesson from each one. I do admit that it hurts to get rejected by a girl that you think is probably awesome, but there are just so many girl…
/r/seduction31/01/13 03:39 PM
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Sweet! Thanks, man. Godspeed.
/r/seduction31/01/13 04:49 AM
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Questions related to a specific girl go on /r/askseddit, not /r/seduction. People would be happy to answer it over there.
/r/seduction31/01/13 02:25 AM
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I'm another college dude who feels the exact same way you do. When I made a similar post, people generally told me to go to campus clubs that correlate to my interests to meet new people.
/r/seduction20/11/12 05:38 PM
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I would advise staying away from r/depression, first of all. r/seduction and r/askseddit got me out of my depression in ways that are actually significant as opposed to just coping with and continuing my depression. The folks on r/depression are already defeated, and just looking for solidarity. If you are looking for change, then I think this board could benefit you. Here's some advice from me: You don't need other people for validation. You are intrinsically valuable as a human being, and extr…
/r/seduction03/11/12 07:14 PM
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without knowing how awkward it is. Don't make it awkward. She was polite to you; you respect her. Just because she doesn't want to go out with you doesn't change either of your statuses as human beings. You're just coworkers, and it should be expected that you work together. Still be friendly, and say hello to her in order to avoid an escalation of passive-aggressive behavior. Plus it's immature to avoid someone or treat them differently just because they rejected you. So what? It doesn't matter…
/r/seduction03/11/12 06:54 PM
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Try squinting while gazing slightly above eye-level? Give yourself some looks in the mirror to see which ones look bizarre and which ones look thoughtful.
/r/seduction31/10/12 09:51 PM
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I think it would have saved me 3 months of depression if I had read this before last summer. Luckily I came to the same conclusions that were in this post, but it would've been nice to realize sooner. Great post though!
/r/seduction30/10/12 12:29 AM
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You read a dog training book in order to apply what you read on women? That is honestly sick on a deep level. However, some of your advice is good.
/r/seduction30/10/12 12:17 AM
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Meditation definitely works for me. Sometimes you will see something that you hadn't even considered, and sometimes you will realize the decision you should have come to all along. Thinking about nothing often makes the most important thoughts surface, I think.
/r/seduction26/10/12 04:16 AM
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If you've never been on a date, don't shred your dignity by becoming her boy-toy as your first relationship. Ask how serious it is, specifically how long they've been dating. I can't make decisions for you, but at one point I think it's got to be you or him. If she has a BF, she may pull a "I need time to decide" and lead you on... be careful.
/r/seduction26/10/12 03:55 AM
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It's better to wait if you can, but sometimes girls don't mind if you try to friend them even after meeting them just once. It really depends on the girl. If you won't see her again, and you two talked for a while, go ahead with it. Check if she has a relationship with someone made public on her profile, too. Don't think that "single" really means single though... You'd be surprised.
/r/seduction26/10/12 03:46 AM
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