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I've been to a few of these. I recommend going completely naked except for a creepy horse head mask. http://www.mcphee.com/shop/products/Horse-Head-Mask.html
/r/seduction13/10/10 04:24 AM
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Whoa. These are kickass. Almost want to downvote them so they won't get too popular!
/r/seduction12/10/10 05:50 AM
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Pulling off the fclose with Clockwork is pretty good. I managed to pull one off with Oldboy - Nothing like watching a grown man shove wriggling octopus tentacles down his throat to get her juices flowing.
/r/seduction27/08/10 05:23 PM
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I was exactly where you are at - this feeling of "college time is running out". Regardless of a approach (I've found that simpler is better with college girls - everyone is trying to figure their shit out in college so the more straightforward the relationship the better), college is awesome in that once you begin being a social person and identifying yourself as a social person, you can change other college kids perception of you very quickly. As a sedditor once advised me: "Just talk to them. …
/r/seduction27/08/10 05:18 PM
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Nice. Seems like you are improving with every approach. Keep up the good work. Diggin' the detailed reports.
/r/seduction08/07/10 06:44 PM
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What would be cool to see on seddit in the future: More field reports More irl meetups More cogsci studies and journal articles on seduction, body language, sociology, the dynamics of social situations, what people find charismatic. More links to texts on body language and negotiation from sources like business consultants and law enforcement
/r/seduction11/06/10 07:49 PM
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I'm having a little difficulty parsing this shit, but for its many flaws, it doesn't seem completely bereft of information. However, the only useful points you make are summarized better by Tyler Durden in the Blueprint Decoded. Mainly: The media and arts have a financial and aesthetic interest in portraying a "romantic seduction", when in reality the majority of relationships begin when both people are interested and comfortable with each other, rather than "love at first sight" or "opposites a…
/r/seduction11/06/10 07:30 PM
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Yup.
/r/seduction11/06/10 07:19 PM
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Reminds me of Jack Nicholson's voice-over in the Departed: "I don't wanna be a product of my environment, I want my environment to be a product of me"
/r/seduction10/06/10 10:50 PM
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As far as physical activities, I like biking and rock climbing. Biking for transportation and health, rock climbing for the thrill and the feeling of really pushing myself and my physical abilities. Plus, the women you meet biking and rock climbing are generally confident, interesting, and have strong and agile leg muscles ;). I don't do it, but some of my male friends who are very successful with women rave about their yoga classes. Basically physical training for sex positions + tons of women …
/r/seduction09/06/10 10:36 PM
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Yeah. Pure speculation here: I think perhaps instead of triggering domestic fantasies, it more has to do with the effectiveness of venue changes as adding more of a "whirlwind romance" atmosphere. I haven't noticed anything about grocery stores in general, but I have noticed that going somewhere spontaneously or "last minute", especially if you have more than one venue change in an evening really works well
/r/seduction03/06/10 10:48 PM
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I am by no means an expert on the area, but some suggestions to get you started: I have yet to take a date to Blue Bottle Coffee and have them not be impressed. Fucking amazing coffee, served at a classy, contemporary cafe. As far as bars in San Francisco go: 83 Proof - One of the classiest bars I've been to. Great cocktails and whisky selection. Great atmosphere. Zeitgeist - If you are a hipster. Large outdoor smoking area. City Beer Store - If you are a beer nerd and she likes beer. On the hai…
/r/seduction03/06/10 08:11 PM
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That's what's awesome about it: the Exploratorium is for kids, and for adults on drugs.
/r/seduction03/06/10 07:59 PM
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I am wary of practice in situation like this where, as you point out, a conscious decision is just as important. Practice is a powerful tool. Unlike the colloquialism, practice does not make perfect, practice makes permanent. For a long time I would force myself to "practice" flirting by forcing myself to interact with as many woman as possible but without any cognitive changes. I got nowhere - only blown out without knowing what I did wrong. Practicing in this way was counter-productive for me …
/r/seduction03/06/10 07:55 PM
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I had this same problem. A shift in perspective is helpful. Skip ahead to the TL;DR for the simplest answer that helped my game out immensely. I love geeking out and thinking critically. Most people in America do not associate those types of interactions with flirtation or a sexual vibe. At first I tried to force myself into the lighthearted, flirty behavior - it was painful, but it pushed me out of my comfort zone. As a couple other sedditors have suggested, pushing yourself to try out new beha…
/r/seduction03/06/10 07:41 PM
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Could someone who has studied NLP material break down exactly what NLP techniques this guy uses? Amateur analysis: it just seems like an example of effective frame control - by immediately switching the conversation to English, he has dominated the frame by controlling the language medium the officer and the driver converse in. Additionally, making the officer respond in English probably requires more mental resources on the part of the officer, distracting his mind from the original reason he p…
/r/seduction28/05/10 09:34 PM
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Another data point: 21 5 Last year? 1. Since the beginning of this year? 2. Greatest Improvement: Paying attention to how my friends were successful with women. Shout-outs to Juggler, TylerD, and Style for the random bits from their lore which helped me out.
/r/seduction25/05/10 10:29 PM
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I read Conquer Your Campus. It was alright, but it didn't provoke any epiphanies that really enhanced my game. What I like most about it are the insights into how college social circles work and how they are different from the social circles you will encounter anywhere else in life.
/r/seduction25/05/10 05:27 AM
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I play the college game. I have read Conquer Your Campus. A few crass generalizations: College girls are more influenced by social phenomena like social proof and high value, this presents opportunities and obstacles that are different from club game or bar game or bookstore game. Some ideas: Opportunities: If you can be somebody, half of the battle is already won in college. What I mean by "being somebody" is having or exhibited a characteristic that makes you stick out from the crowd. Obviousl…
/r/seduction25/05/10 05:22 AM
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You could try texting her during the day: "I just met your twin." I can pretty much guarantee from anecdotal evidence this will get a response unless they weren't attracted to you in the first place. Depending on how she does respond, take it from there. Maybe flirt a little more, leave it hanging, then in the evening give her a call on the phone and you can follow up right off the bat with whatever you guys ended up talking about over text. Banter for a couple of minutes - then suggest plans.
/r/seduction19/05/10 04:48 PM
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You could try this. or this.
/r/seduction15/05/10 03:03 PM
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I agree with both boxen and nambio on their points of contention. I just copied and pasted the guide with the hope it would provide a rough guideline for the OP on what a progression from kissing to oral/sex might look like. I've had success with the smell thing honestly when cuddling, chicks do seem to dig it. Breaking out the massage oil on the first date is pretty weird, I agree.
/r/seduction14/05/10 10:37 AM
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I know I had this same question about three months ago. The most important thing is making her feel comfortable - that includes having the confidence to progress while still being attentive to her responses. For something to help you fake it until you make it: Here are David D'angelo's training wheels, I've had ok results with this. Always remember to be flexible in the moment, but have this in the back of your mind if you blank and don't know what to do next. EDIT: As other sedditors have right…
/r/seduction14/05/10 06:38 AM
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Helpful advice, but I personally disagree that you can't bullshit inner-game. Most of my friends and people I know who are good enough to call PUA with women are driven to it by some neuroticism or another - reminiscent of how Mystery is described in "The Game". If you are good enough at reading social cues, you can bullshit anything.
/r/seduction13/05/10 11:09 PM
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What should I do with my date? Have fun. That said, I'm inferencing you are interested in sex by posting about this is n the seduction forum: You don't need to focus on game- societal conditioning and American prom culture basically dictate all of the rules for you if don't feel like being creative. It sounds like there is plenty of sexual tension to play with anyway. Just keep it up in the prom setting. Get a corsage, be a gentleman. Make her feel comfortable, especially around her peers. Go fo…
/r/seduction13/05/10 11:05 PM
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If you have 20 odd hours to spend, download The Blueprint. The entire second half is basically a bunch of tricks to distract your own limiting, noisy mind in a way that will relax you with women. I'm the type who over-analyzes everything, so this sort of training definitely helped me out a lot. Take up meditation. Also, you don't have to be able to imagine yourself as Mr. Suave to pull it off - I certainly couldn't when I was learning this stuff. Just fake it till ya make it, and try not to give…
/r/seduction13/05/10 10:57 PM
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Scroll down.
/r/seduction13/05/10 10:48 PM
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Just try it. Either it will work or it won't - but event if it doesn't, at least your lips won't be quite as dry. Win-win! To get into the theory though, Juggler told an anecdote about how he struggling with how to kiss close for a long time. He went on a date at a bar, and he was struck by the sudden inspiration to apply the chapstick he had in his pocket was he was talking to her. When she called him out on it, he just responded "Just in case there is any smooching going on later". Whereas bef…
/r/seduction12/05/10 08:18 AM
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Making out is the great mediator. You should have made a move and tried to kiss her while spooning. If you make out for >10-15 mins, one of you is either going to step up, or step off.
/r/seduction11/05/10 07:19 PM
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Calidroid, I participated in a VERY similar situation just a couple of weeks ago. What happened was this: Met a girl, we liked each other, went out a few times, slept together. Everything was peachy. Then I text her to initiate round 2. After a several hour long game of phone tag, we finally got a hold of each other on the phone late that night. I had been hanging out some other guy friends I had made a commitment to earlier in the evening and had been enjoying myself hoping to meet up with girl…
/r/seduction11/05/10 07:02 PM
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Just spawn moar overlords.
/r/seduction11/05/10 04:51 PM
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I seem to remember an article I read in the NYT about a year ago on how London is now THE city for cocktail science. I'm sure you can find some interesting bars with interesting women somewhere. Maybe try using Yelp?
/r/seduction11/05/10 04:48 PM
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I find art museums have a high number of cute, low-anxiety sets to approach. Just keep an eye out to make sure her boyfriend isn't hanging out in the gift shop... At the average college kegger of 20-60 people, I might open between 2 and 7 sets, depending on how many people I know there, etc. In college, I find it's just easier to treat everybody as your extended social circle (after all, if you attend the college the party is thrown at odds are you know the "stranger" through somebody). Sometime…
/r/seduction11/05/10 04:42 PM
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Having to think about whether a set is "approachable" or "unapproachable" is one of my biggest sources of approach anxiety. That being said, while we are armchair-chatting about calibration: a few of my thoughts on the issues you bring up. Mixed Sets - Start opening mixed sets now. Do it. They can be so much easier than all girls sets, because the girls in a mixed set don't automatically assume you are hitting on them when you approach them at a party like a group of just girls who gets approach…
/r/seduction10/05/10 11:24 PM
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The problem with saying "Call me back" for frame control is that if she doesn't call back your frame is fucked. You have to call her back - the frame becomes 'you are talking to her after she definitely flaked on you', as opposed to 'you are talking to her at better time in her life when it was more convenient to take a call'. But, I never said these were golden rules. Just what seems to work for me my style/situation.
/r/seduction10/05/10 05:03 AM
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"What's a good book you could recommend?" is more effective than "Can you recommend..." in two ways. 1) When you ask "What's a good book you could recommend?" you are assuming they have read enough and have enough taste to be able to recommend a good book to you. It presumes value on their part and your part. It also is a subtly qualifying statement: have they read enough/do they have good enough taste to be able to recommend a book to you? 2) Secondly, asking "What" is better than "Can", becaus…
/r/seduction10/05/10 03:44 AM
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I would say the "snowball effect" works both ways. You can psyche yourself out and in turn, perform poorly because you are psyched out, and the cycle continues. Luckily, the opposite does seem to be true. success does beget success more often than failure. Probably due to psychological complexities that modern science understands only generally. I was certainly not an introverted person when I started getting into this stuff, I had successful interactions with most people as friends so I don't f…
/r/seduction10/05/10 01:52 AM
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upvote for jimmy carr, no matter the context.
/r/seduction08/05/10 10:34 PM
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I think anything that doesn't advertise itself as a "one size fits all" solution. I have looked at the following PUA works: -The 30 day challenge -The Blueprint -Ultimate guide to texting -Magic Bullets -How to meet and connect with women Out of all those, I think the product with most lasting power/relevance is the Juggler "How to Meet and Connect with Women", because he basically describes conversational techniques and rhetorical tricks that would be effective with most people who have grown u…
/r/seduction07/05/10 04:06 AM
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Word. Sounds like a good compromise to me. Keep it classy.
/r/seduction07/05/10 01:21 AM
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Right on man. I agree with a lot of your points, they go hand in hand with a lot of what Aaron Sleazy talks about in "Debunking the seduction industry". If you ever feel like nerding out on finer points seduction, I hope you choose to do it here. Otherwise, congrats reminding yourself that all you need to get your shit back together is you, and enjoy a life filled with confidence and women.
/r/seduction06/05/10 10:51 PM
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I agree with most of it - to anyone with half a brain it's pretty fucking obvious how money has skewed things. I also agree that the simplest and most effective advice that can truly apply to any guy is contained in the less than 10 pages this guy offers on seduction. However, it seems like he pulls himself down onto the level of the people he denigrates. Hypocritically - HE is taking the industry too seriously by writing a fucking book on how people are taking the industry too seriously. Why am…
/r/seduction06/05/10 10:36 PM
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I second the motion. intjpua's advice on has gotten me laid on two occasions. Best internet wingman ever.
/r/seduction06/05/10 08:19 PM
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Yup. Social context always trumps armchair advice.
/r/seduction03/05/10 09:12 AM
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You don't always have to answer the question directly- especially if you already know the person a little bit and they are just asking out of formality. If you have asked a girl how she is doing, and she responds then asks how you are doing, you can just ignore her question and respond with an answer that is some sort of flirty follow-up to her situation. This requires a little bit of calibration in order to reduce the chance of you coming off as a jackass. Sometimes however, ignoring the questi…
/r/seduction03/05/10 04:49 AM
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AFC: "What should I say? What opener should I use? What should be on my mind when I approach a woman?" Tyler Durden: "Nothing." Trust yourself, and your brains' evolutionary drive to put yourself in situations where reproduction is possible. If you are confident in trusting yourself, the right thing to say will come out naturally. Just like how when you are having a comfortable conversation with an old friend, you are rarely "thinking" about the next thing to say - it just happens.
/r/seduction02/05/10 02:49 AM
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This. I feel the OP - I recently started hooking up with a 26 year- old and I just turned 21.
/r/seduction29/04/10 11:33 PM
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Yes.
/r/seduction29/04/10 09:35 PM
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Man, I personally experienced this several times. Only in the past few months have I been able to recognize it and consciously decide not to think this way. The Blueprint alerted me that I might be thinking this way and that it was sabotaging me in my interactions with women. Recognizing I have this type of thinking, and then consciously deciding to not be affected by it was one of the biggest things I did for my game. Ever. Went from feeling I could only hook up with girls with lower value than…
/r/seduction29/04/10 05:10 PM
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Find an excuse to hold her hand for a second (if you are in a group a people, make it part of illustrating a story or something). Once you have her hand, give it a subtle (but definitely noticeable) squeeze. From a third party observer perspective, it will look like you are just grabbing her hand to illustrate you point - benign. But from her perspective, she will feel the squeeze and will know there is slightly more intent to the touch, but nothing she HAS to respond to. From there the ball is …
/r/seduction29/04/10 05:02 PM
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Meditation absolutely. Helps you cultivate a confident, proactive mind rather than a reactive one. Give you mental tricks to calm you down even in the most hectic of social situations. Teaching myself how to meditate (in a secular fashion) was a big part of stepping up my game (and my quality of life) Weed. Good and bad things here. One one hand, it gives me the "fuckit" to be unattached from the resolution of an interaction, which can give me confidence. Secondly, it reminds me to slow down and…
/r/seduction29/04/10 04:49 PM
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Suggestive reinterpretation like the good examples that monkeyboy provides is effective. However, I might add that after pouring over game material to get this chick in class, I finally succeeded after following the critical piece of advice a redditor gave me for going after college girls: "Just talk to them. College girls just want to fuck and little companionship." I found this advice to be liberating. I realized that college girls are still calibrating their game (maybe not consciously like t…
/r/seduction29/04/10 06:26 AM
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Yes, misinterpretation has worked wonders for me
/r/seduction29/04/10 06:19 AM
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Erm. I guess advice on technique is ethically neutral. Your choice on whether to act on it or not. Girl A: Sounds like most of the heavily lifting is done on this one is she is already disqualifying her boyfriend, qualifying you, and justifying the possibility of cheating later. I would try to get in a situation where it is just you and her, and maybe get her talking about what frustrates her about her current relationship (she might bring it up all by herself if you are smooth enough in steerin…
/r/seduction29/04/10 05:08 AM
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Has anyone done any reading on how geishas were trained? As I recall, geisha had to be trained to be genuinely interesting to their high class customers. Learning to play an instrument and to compose poetry were as essential to their game as looks and grace. If I had a couple of weeks over the summer to kill, it might be interesting to research geisha techniques on how to be the ultimate seductress.
/r/seduction29/04/10 04:48 AM
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Just wanted to say this is the type of stuff I would like to see more of on seddit, field reports that are detailed enough to capture the social nuances of the seduction, something we can look at in depth. My 2cents: Loud music is always an obstacle for me. Generally, the way I enjoy loud music involves a lot of psychedelics and dancing - an almost meditative state where the rational mind simply gives up in the face of such overwhelming stimulus. That said, the only way I have ever "picked up" g…
/r/seduction28/04/10 08:41 PM
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Whoa. That's an interesting perspective. upvote.
/r/seduction28/04/10 01:14 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. Can you explain more about what gets a woman off using John Cleese references?
/r/seduction28/04/10 01:09 AM
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Solid advice. However, I've found recently that some girls I've hooked up with weren't comfortable with oral/finger play but wanted to go ahead with intercourse. Awha? This threw me for a loop because I am used to the progression you suggest intjpua, and to do it otherwise seems to constrain foreplay abilities. Anyone else encounter this?
/r/seduction27/04/10 11:03 PM
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Disqualify him. You say he can get any girl at the party he wants and he knows it? You are going to have to be the girl at the party he can't get, at least until his attention is locked solely on pursuing you. Fuck with his head, his ego. Make it a game where you try to provoke him into trying to use every trick in the book to get you. If you can stick out from the crowd of other girls in a way that interests or provokes him, half the battle is done. Since you mentioned that the costumes at the …
/r/seduction27/04/10 07:22 PM
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Hmm. Possible, but she put the suggestion in the context of her working and taking a break, which is what she was doing at the time.
/r/seduction22/04/10 08:30 PM
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Problem with this suggestion, for other reasons (visiting other friends) I will be at her living space, and will run into her within the week. So, not interaction with her for a week is not an option.
/r/seduction22/04/10 08:28 PM
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The correct term for being fetishistically into asians is having "yellow fever". Not that it helps your pick up or anything.
/r/seduction18/04/10 07:02 AM
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UPDATE: Hey y'all. Just realized I forgot to post that I won the challenge, went on a date with a cutie from class a while ago. Things went fucking great - I'm seeing a couple of other girls as well. Seeing The Blueprint really allowed my mind to give me the confidence to be as comfortable interaction with beautiful women as possible - all I needed apparantly. I still enjoyed the 30 day challenge for giving me a place to start some helpful pointers, but I think it might be more appropriate for s…
/r/seduction18/04/10 03:58 AM
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I am firm believer that if you can approach with enough confidence, the right thing to say in the situation will come out naturally and easy (after watching the blueprint) because it worked well for me. I found that I was actually slowing myself down socially with "material" because I would be spending energy thinking about routines and the next "move" in the game. However, some people might get confidence from the security of having a planned "routine" in case they can't think of anything, and …
/r/seduction16/04/10 05:02 PM
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I overwrote it. english student reflex
/r/seduction13/04/10 05:16 PM
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Oh, another point about flirting in class. You have a powerful tool: Built in time constraints (basically group work, in between the professor talking, etc.) Easy to naturally build tension, and just a few minutes of dialogue spaced out over an hour can seem like you connect much more than the few minutes of dialogue consecutively. Use this to your advantage.
/r/seduction13/04/10 02:46 AM
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Upvoting OhMyJobs post for the good advice. I just recently hooked up with a cutie from class, which was a first for me (first classmate, all my other hookups have been through social circle, student living situation, etc.). Here is how I did it, not that this way is a good way of going about it, but it worked for me: Step 1: Pirated and watched TylerDs "Blueprint". Basically a shot of adrenaline for your inner game. I went to class that week feeling like a champ. Step 2: In class I adopted the …
/r/seduction13/04/10 02:45 AM
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Thanks for all the responses guys. I added her on facebook. I am not planning on depending on a facebook response, I think I will go ahead this week and try to get her real number, and set up a date. Alternatively, since I live close by, if I run into her I can just ask her over. Clarifying question: Should I ask her for her number/make plans right off the bat when I next see her (maybe with a time constraint) or should I talk to her for a bit to build some more rapport/comfort before I ask her …
/r/seduction06/04/10 03:52 AM
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I could add her on facebook. Der. Didn't think of that. You other suggestion is a good backup as well. Thanks
/r/seduction05/04/10 07:13 PM
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Right. Going up to her door and knocking randomly one day does not feel natural to me. Any suggestions on what might be a more natural course of action, or what the most comfortable and non stalkerish way to make the "knock on her door" interaction work?
/r/seduction05/04/10 06:58 PM
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Thanks for the support. Comments like these definitely encourage me to hit and streets and make it bigger, better, and bolder every time.
/r/seduction10/03/10 08:10 PM
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DAY 11 Mission 1 complete: Refining your identity "What are your primary jobs/hobbies/courses? Answer based on how you spend your time not on what you think will please women" Literature Writing/English (conversation, poetry, stories) Aesthetics (media and art including videogames, film, fengshui, etc.) Taste (liquor, tobacco, food, tea) "Which of these items above best define you?" Literature/Writing/English "What are the most interesting or adventurous aspects of said activity? List aspects an…
/r/seduction10/03/10 01:27 AM
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If you like the idea of a "regimen" that you work through towards goals you define, Rules of the Game by Neil Strauss is an option. I've also heard people have had success with the "Demonic Confidence" program.
/r/seduction09/03/10 06:25 PM
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Just hit midterm season so I only have time to do a day or two a week. Day 11 will go up this afternoon. I should mention the days are getting lengthier and more complex mission-wise, challenging me to step up my game. Good stuff. I've also been distracted by studying the in's and out's of the Juggler method. I like the Juggler method because the focuses on conversation, and for the social situations I find myself in, I find Juggler's observations to be the most relevant.
/r/seduction09/03/10 06:22 PM
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No, I wouldn't say a convincing enough response to warrant an IOI. Perhaps too early in the interaction.
/r/seduction06/03/10 03:34 AM
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DAY 10 Mission 1 complete: Opposite Day "Read the briefing on disqualification" Mission 2 complete: Play hard to get "Approach and Open three women. After opening, add a disqualifier" I believe I have found my first sticking point. I have this funny habit of meaning what I say - even my jokes are delivered with a knife's edge - not particularly flirty. I felt like I had to rely on the canned disqualifies Strauss offers. I tried to ensure I delivered them with an emphasized smile to counter my co…
/r/seduction05/03/10 09:40 PM
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Yea, still working on DAY 10. I think I have successfully found my first sticking point- disqualifying women. Feels completely unnatural to me. I'm definitely gonna put in some work to get past this one.
/r/seduction05/03/10 01:04 AM
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Oh, and I might add that physical contact is REALLY important to college girls. This was a sticking point of mine, as I was raised in a very verbal family were hugs were rare or whatever. You could be an extremely witty conversationalist, but unless the college girl is super confident, then she is going to be confused if you don't add some sort of physical spark at least. Hugs, light touch to the arm to emphasize a point, light touch to the back. These are all still within the realm of "Platonic…
/r/seduction03/03/10 09:49 PM
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oops didn't notice this comment before I posted mine. Upvoted for starting your own club.
/r/seduction03/03/10 09:32 PM
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clubs and teams are okay, but... How meeting people there and starting your own club/ team? Make your own niche... easier said than done but definitely way more alpha, and you don't have to bullshit your way into a club about something you aren't actually interested in to meet girls. "I must create my own system of be enslaved by another mans"
/r/seduction03/03/10 09:31 PM
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I am in a similar position mate, and made the concious decision to change the way I interact with women a few months ago. I'm still working hard and failing a alot, but I am succeeding more and more often so I am confident that I am improving. Depending on what kind of learner you are, I recommend the following: If you love to geek out on things like me, and can learn well from books, try Neil Strauss' 30 Day Challenge. I starts from the very, very beginning (Nobody is shy enough to start the ch…
/r/seduction03/03/10 09:21 PM
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Yes, this is a point he makes in said video.
/r/seduction02/03/10 11:16 PM
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Good excuse to go out and get 10 more numbers. Keep it up mate.
/r/seduction02/03/10 11:13 PM
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Even if I "Win" I think I'm gonna keep up through Day 30, see what Style has you do. I am using the 30 day challenge as a way to more or less break into the PUA circle of understanding, as opposed to just "getting a date" which I honestly don't think I would have much trouble doing. Now "Getting a date" when I want with the girl I want (I'm an ambitious dude) is more of a challenge. I also hopes this thread works as a springboard for more in-depth discussion of the finer points of Pick Up Artist…
/r/seduction02/03/10 11:08 PM
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Right? I found it to be a breath of fresh air after the more mechanical stuff on the fast.seduction boards. I think Juggler's attitude that given social interaction is an art, not a science, it should be treated with the flexibility and subjective-ness that art has and should be practiced as such (i.e. the form should fit the function) is spot on.
/r/seduction02/03/10 10:28 PM
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DAY 9 Mission 1 complete:Crunchtime "After today the pace will really start to pick-up, review any previous lesson you feel you need work on" I think I'll do some more vocal exercises this evening, but I am so far I seem to be keeping up. Mission 2 complete:Approach mixed groups "Your mission is to approach two groups of three or more people that include men as well as women. Make sure each person in the group feels respected, and the men don't know you are hitting on the women, at least not yet…
/r/seduction02/03/10 10:25 PM
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Yes. David Shade's Eye Contact Experiment reinforced this lesson for me: http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/08_Related_Articles/eyecontact.shtml
/r/seduction01/03/10 09:45 PM
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DAY 8 Mission 1 complete: Fine tune your openers "Read today's briefing, add a root and a time constraint to your openers" Root: A reason for why you are opening ("My friend and I were talking and..."). Time constraint: ("My friends are waiting on me, but really quick, let me get your take on...") Mission 2 complete: Approach with your new tools "Approach three more women alone or in groups with your newly refined openers" Mission 3 complete: Evaluate the approaches Evaluation #1: Opened athleti…
/r/seduction01/03/10 09:08 PM
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Also, current supplementary reading: David Shade's Eye Contact Experiment: http://www.fastseduction.com/guide/08_Related_Articles/eyecontact.shtml Juggler, "How to meet and connect with women" Casanova, "Story of my life" Mark Redman, "Conquer your campus"
/r/seduction01/03/10 08:37 PM
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UPDATE: Sorry about the delay y'all, I had this weird error on reddit where I would get a status 503 when I tried to log on, or when I tried to open pages in seduction and other subreddits. Oddly, I would not get the error when opening front page articles. Anywho, for the time being I have to upload updates from another connection. But without further ado: DAY 7 and DAY 8 Day 7 and Day 8 focus on openers, so I am finally getting to the actual PUA stuff. I read a couple of supplementary materials…
/r/seduction01/03/10 08:33 PM
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DAY 5 Mission 1: Here comes the groom "Today is grooming day, and the focus is your appearance" Strauss has you complete one task on his grooming checklist The Checklist: Join a gym Eat healthier Make sure your clothes fit Get free dermatology advice Remove excess hair Whiten your teeth Get a tan Change your hairstyle Get a manicure and pedicure Examine yourself closely in a mirror Manage your eyebrows Freshen your breath Accessorize I chose make sure your clothes fit. Since I have relatively re…
/r/seduction25/02/10 06:05 AM
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Well, all my small chat was made with people outside of class. However, I find the downtime between classes to be perfect for practicing openers (Day 7-8) because you have a natural "time constraint", and I often have friends in the class so it is generally easy to make a plausible "root" - two tools that Neil Strauss later recommends to strengthen your openers.
/r/seduction25/02/10 05:21 AM
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