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CMVGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 12:40 PM
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Question For WomenGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/22 05:26 PM
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Question For WomenGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate05/12/22 11:48 AM
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DebateGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:24 PM
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DiscussionGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/22 01:13 AM
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DiscussionGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/22 11:16 PM
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CMVGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 11:47 AM
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CMVGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:54 PM
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Question For WomenGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 05:20 PM
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Question For WomenGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 05:32 PM
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DiscussionGreen-Quantity1032/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 03:55 AM
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I think we don't need a new word for sexual misconduct/attack, but that's just me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 01:06 AM
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I mean you're pretty much spot-on but sounds pretty purple pilled to me - blue-pill is pretty much "be yourself, it's all about confidence" when that phrase just has nothing on attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:24 AM
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I think the problem he's mentioning is the 'hold rope on both sides' thing. But yeah what does he expect? "No you're average, might settle down if push comes to shove"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/25 12:03 AM
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Female sexuality is very complex, when she needs to cope with her man being not tall, wealthy or at least of a high social standing or status. What do you want a girl to say? "I've settled for you so I have a hard time getting turned on"?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/25 12:31 AM
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Hmm as someone who's oscillated the unattractive-attractive line more than average - my quirks are definitely better received when I'm considered attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:17 PM
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His case is famous exactly because it's a weird case. Attractive people on average marry attractive partners who earn more, are more mentally stable, higher intellect etc etc. Multiply by 9 billion people and variance explodes - but on all else equals being very attractive will absolutely change your life, and usually for the better. Would all men crying on here be happy had they had that? no. Would their life probably be better? yes. EDIT: In terms of anecdotes - the best times for me were time…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:56 PM

Even if optimizing for seed spread in that manner would feel remotely fulfilling for any guy (hint: amount of guys who consciously care about this -> 0), this is still a bad optimization. No woman in her right mind goes to the sperm bank to find a 5'5 high-school educated ethno-sperm. You're back to square one.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 04:52 PM
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Because unattractive men (read: men who don’t get women) think women are giving sex rather than having it - even when they have a gf she “agrees to give a blowjob” rather than eager to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:04 PM
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I think I’d mainly go for someone young, attractive and smart - probably she wouldn’t be the whoriest of sluts, other than that don’t care that much at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 03:03 PM
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Well yeah, but then this begs the question - why do women have the upper hand, which is easily answered: Men and women behave differently when choosing date partners
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 04:19 AM

I get turned on from feeling attractive and the girl being attracted to me too.. maybe girls lean a bit more into that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 11:12 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:44 AM
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But.. how would you know? Don’t some men just.. lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:41 AM
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Give their body 😆 Sometimes girls will fuck you if you’re the one available and attractive enough even though they’re looking for something serious. It can take years for her to find someone she wants long term.. you think she’s gonna virginize until then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 06:35 AM

Word games. Incels have bad lives, cannot be otherwise - they have an issue by definition. I don’t think it’s anyone’s job to relieve (that’s true for pretty much any “issue” someone has) them but it’s still an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:27 PM

What do you want? Go outside in any decent city - people are out socializing and fucking, wtf you on about? Bottom 25% of men always lost and they’ll continue losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 10:37 PM
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They’re different in that in clubs I’ve made out with (non-drunk) model-looking girls and in apps it’s literally 0% that happens.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:34 AM
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If I was a woman I’d take my chances with 50 chads running through me before I’d even consider dating… Oh
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:56 PM
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We’re living in a time where neurotics from both sexes have commandeered the internet and not only armchair-psych without living - they gaslight the rest to do the same too. To the point: Most young women want to be approached. Stop listening to hyper-neurotic unattractive women online (anyone who says the word “gaze” is a red flag). My opinion: Men are lonelier because they’re more neurotic and more risk-averse because they’re at home smoking instead of going out and drinking Thanks for listeni…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:09 AM
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You are not a victim just because nobody wants to give you money. Poorness and homelessness is just an unfortunate by product of free will, which proceeds all other rights in trading You can’t make somebody donate to you, or force somebody else to be ok with you taking their money. Market trades are entirely free will. And nobody literally forced YOU to be the human you are. There are things you can do to improve your genetic hand, and things you can do to improve your skills etc, but your effor…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:03 PM
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People son’t like useless people - to that extent they’re considered “bad”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:28 PM
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I know there’s a hierarchy, my reason for not seriously dating single mothers is that I don’t want to tie myself to another person’s children. I do agree your thesis holds for some people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 10:04 PM
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Yeah I heard that a lot. Meanwhile my best friend’s best line in college was “you’re the most beautiful girl here, you know that right?”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 04:53 PM

I use 2 apps, and yeah since turning 35 apps are harder - clubs still work nicely though. But yeah you kinda deserve to be rejected I'll give you that, you've managed to completely rot this thread. Gonna go out to cry about my would-be recessed hairline and jaw
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:15 AM
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I mean I just don't see how men can seriously carry the lie beyond college.. Sure, in high-school some level of innocence can be maintained - but after college age? Funny thing is - the only reasonable way I can see to maintain this kind of innocence about relationships is being in a long-term one starting young where none of you cheat. On that note - I think experienced men also are jealous of Chads - who wouldn't want to be able to choose specifically the women he wants and have them be excite…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:47 AM

Chadlier Didn't insult - pointed out and offered remedy. Not bald - but more hair in the crown is good or else I need to keep my hair short which is annoying. Yeah chin was recessed - surprisingly I managed to attract cute girls still, but yeah I can't deal with that bullshit so I fixed it - as I offer other people - fix your stuff and stop imploding on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:41 AM

So let me get this straight - you're a failed mentor but it's women's fault? I never had to tick any boxes when dating - either they wanted to date me, in which case it usually is fun - or they don't swipe or don't answer my messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:29 AM
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Very interesting - I have this same dissonance where I could make out with some pretty hot girls in clubs etc, but on Tinder much less so - for me it actually takes a toll on my esteem but you seem to just brush it off - maybe I’ll focus more on real life then. Also the smokescreen comment - spot on, many such cases. Thanks for replying!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:49 AM
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You’re the one trying to insult, I don’t see where I did.. Chadlier than though is Chad now? I’m just chadlier than thou - especially after HT and jaw surgery but w/e 🤷🏻‍♂️ Again, I suggest you focus on getting attractive rather than pointing out people who actually live their own advice
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:43 AM
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Hmm - Do you have the same success on Tinder though? I noticed since 34-35 it’s a no-go when I go young
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:27 AM
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You can’t make this a math question - this whole thread is directly related to your situation. If you were 35 and had 23 year old hotties banging on your door you’d fuck them, this thread wouldn’t exist and no one would bat an eye. Being lonely and rejected - you instead Don Quixote on reddit yelling into the void. No one is stopping you from hitting on young girls - if they go “eww you’re old” it’s just a nice way of saying “you’re old enough to realize you’re unattractive”. Instead see if you …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:23 AM
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Women who are interested in you will sometimes call you a fuckboy/douche/asshole It’s just banter - they like thinking the guy who can get everyone is interested while also checking how you react (hint: you don’t). Dirtbag is a guy who taps into her low self esteem to convince her she wouldn’t be able to do better, or strings her along with false promises, or worse - you don’t seem to be doing any of that, you’ve just bought into incel’s and ultra-neurotic women’s definition of dirtbag
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 08:44 AM
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Do you actually believe what you wrote? Did you try to imagine how your life would look like if you couldn’t even think of a way to get another person to hug you while naked? What is this bullshit I mean incels are autistic, neurotic and mostly tend dumb - but their issue is definitely something a lot of men fear
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:06 PM
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This is the kind of post you can only make when you haven’t approached a woman in more than a year. Nothing is dehumanizing about having goals - respect or bit either you’re being attractive or you’re not
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 12:26 AM
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What about manly men who are into femdom fantasies? Queerdom?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:50 PM
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You find it interesting? For one, these are not “women” - these are the specific subset you’ve encountered and have had sexual relations with. Two - what’s interesting? Low mate-value women can’t have a man who’s best of both worlds - so they take the hottest men they can get for short term because they don’t commit and commit with someone reliable and less attractive for long-term. Men do the reverse - fuck downwards and relationship upwards (in looks). Nothing here is interesting unless you me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:48 PM
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How do you know all that?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 01:42 PM
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36m here, can confirm. I probably look my best right about now, Dating still seemed way easier a decade ago at 24-26 - even at 30 was nice. 36m is either you’re VERY hot or you’re settling by a bigger margin. Question for OP though - how chadly were the guys? I could get hook ups with pretty girls back then and I was no chad, as I said if anything ai look better now
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:37 AM
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I engage in casual sex, no trauma, very fun, very bonding, thank you for meta-analyzing 80% of men and 30% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:42 PM
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I think people underestimate how fast you can get emotional about someone.. I once felt things for a woman I met at a party in like 40 minutes. After we kissed some I looked at her and she went "you love me" - I think she didn't like that lol - but point is I did develop some emotion by that point. Hell, I even felt a connection to a hooker in Amsterdam - probably felt it for 5 weeks after (only went to her/any prostitute once). So - even girls who say they need a connection - I bet there were t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 10:40 PM
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A lot of people trust their wife, are married, are happy and never got cheated on. Some of the others post shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:30 PM

What do you want dude? Some people are attractive, some are not. There are a lot more girls I’d fwb than girls I’d seriously date. There’s a lot more girls who’d seriously date me than girls who’d casually sleep with me. The optimal girl for me to be in a relationship with is a girl who’d be happy to have casual sex with me and I’m attracted enough to her to want to seriously date her - The more attractive you are the less rare that is - end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 08:11 PM

You do realize this is a subreddit for bitching about pool-cleaning, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 08:06 PM
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Used to have something similar, then on every calc I’m >95% except western europe which is still like 88th percentile 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 07:06 PM
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For the record, one woman said I’m “medium” but that “large” hurts and mine is perfect, so when they don’t want “large” you have to understand they’re thinking of too large. Also - women and men don’t know sizes so 8” is probably 7”. Me: 6.8x5.5
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:01 PM
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According the calcsd this is like 99.9% so yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:55 PM
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Hmm I don’t know I like smart women - but only if they’re attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 01:33 AM
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Man here. Prefer attractive woman with attitude to nice unattractive woman. Thanks for listening.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:41 AM
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Umm.. so you were rejected but wasn’t rejecting - why weren’t they the one fawning over you? There are women chads?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 12:29 AM
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Do you think really attractive men date her?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:05 AM
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I think the issue is this: People who like holding non-consensus opinions and behaviors like to talk about them and make as if it’s normal (see vegans). Women who like hot guys don’t respond to “do women like height” - they just go “wtf is that stupid question” and move on. The ones who like to signal their off-beat opinions however - “omg lolz as if height matters - Give me a kind face and an emotionally intelligent guy and I’m walking on clouds”. It’s not that girls don’t care about character …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:55 PM
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Don’t think I’ve ever been with a woman who didn’t want to be my girlfriend 🤷🏻‍♂️ EDIT: 1 tourist who had a flight back same day
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:07 AM

Take expected value of attractiveness over time and there’s your average subjective attraction to someone. Do this from POV of all opposite-sex people and there’s one’s objective average attractiveness. A good proxy for that is someone’s objective physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:46 AM
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I don’t know about shoulds - I just know that when I can feel her attraction to me I’m much more interested. Last girl I dated didn’t come up but we did passionately kiss and some dirty talk was had - I pretty much fell in love right there. Have the same date without sexual tension and kiss and I have to force myself to call her again.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 11:32 AM
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No, I did feel uncomfortable rejecting - but I was flattered and remained friends with her. As for the woman in the video - neuroticism and attention seeking, nothing to see here Edit: also it’s a humblebrag - as if the main point isn’t “hey someone fell for me”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 11:19 AM
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It’s a stupid deal if you don’t want to fuck him - her wanting to fuck me is a precondition for anything happening, let alone a relationship. I never ghosted anyone, nor have I promised a relationship ahead of time - sex is me and her having fun and part of overall checking compatibility - it’s a reward for us both finding each other attractive, not part of a “relationship deal” Women slut shame no less than men. Also yes - some men indeed think a woman having sex “fast” is a bad sign - they’re …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:16 PM
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You’re meeting men who have madonna whore complexes and/or have one yourself - stop projecting. I’m more likely to marry a girl I fucked on first/2nd date than a girl who “held off” - Holding off tells me she’s either not attracted enough or playing weird games - both disqualify her from having my serious attentiob
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:00 PM
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Directionally correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/24 12:03 AM
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A lot of not really hot guys have ONS though.. Also the women I’d date definitely have a higher bar than those I’d only had sex with - but they don’t need to be “really hot” - unless really hot starts at like 7?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 05:00 PM
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36 years, and only now can someone phrase it in a way that’s both sensible and believable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 04:54 PM
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I don’t know dude, I treat women pretty good even when it’s only casual
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:56 PM
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How many women have you hit on this year? How many Reddit posts/comments have you written this week? That's all you need to know. Also - their main weapon is being extroverted and attractive. Some Girls call "bad boy" and "douche" to every guy who has sex with them but doesn't want commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 10:53 PM

I don't see why mom and dad having a long marriage means you don't fuck around.. Both my grandparents stayed married to their first marital spouse, my parents are still married, I fuck around. Also where do people find all these single moms? I'm 36 and I've been on a date with only 1 single mom who's a nerdy director at a tech company and seemed to have too little passion for me to want a 2nd date
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 09:07 PM

I’ve been able to attract cute women and I’ve been unable to - being able is better in every way - stop giving them cope fuel plz. You’re able to choose - the others have all those problems you listed + lack of choice
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 06:21 PM

Most still leaves like what? 20-30% who do measure up and are hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/24 05:54 PM
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But it would bother her - no feelings yet
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 08:12 PM
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Got it, lie until feelings established
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/24 11:35 AM
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I think there’s a difference between 30yo attractive women who “succeeded” in their mating efforts vs average ones who did not.. The 35yo ones you usually meet for dates tend ti be the more bitter ones, while growing old with the 26yo - why would she grow bitter? I’m not saying those men are right and probably more often than not it’s a red flag - but there certainly is a difference
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/24 05:25 PM
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Yeah.. go on Tinder or to your local club. I can clearly see a shift in how women and people behave towards me when I’m more/less attractive. And that’s fine, just no need to sugar coat it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/24 04:41 PM
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If you’re attractive it’s at least the same, except for the minority of girls who have something like a reverse madonna-whore thing. If you’re less and she’s just settling for a relationship (something a minority of girls do, mostly depending on attractiveness and age) - then yeah you may experience less sexual lust from her. Her Promiscuity isn’t the issue - your attractiveness is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/24 04:20 PM
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She’s interested in a relationship.. but a hookup will suffice until she finds it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 07:52 PM
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Where do people ask for your number? If it happens that often you’re probably leaning 8 rather than 7. As for casual - Most of the women I casually slept with were looking for “something serious” - maybe you shouldn’t be so explicit about it and rather charm your way in a bit? Don’t outright lie - just don’t mention it.. Some girls who claim they’re looking for something serious are actually looking to have fun but have hang-ups about being perceived by others and themselves to make it look like…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/24 06:13 AM
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Valid yes, happy probably, relax no. Need no. Take away sex and it's ecosystem and you take vast majority of my life meaning out.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:53 PM
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I think most women would be jealous/offended. I also think a woman that does the same does it for about the same reasons: She tried having sex early and dirty and (probably mistakenly) diagnosed it as the reason for relationship trouble. It's not necessarily that she's "disrespecting" the new man by doing things different, she's just trying to optimize her behavior so that the relationship will be stable - in this case a poor attempt the way I see it. Still - if a really attractive guy was to me…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/24 04:31 PM
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Do you see why people want to fuck good looking people and extract resources from resourceful people?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/24 05:17 PM
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People think I’m a player even without being Super Desirable.. probably I’ll have my fun first a year or two and settle in
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/24 10:37 PM

You do know natural selection includes responding properly to adversaries, right? There's no ensuring natural selection without the pressure of the environment - that environment contains "unworthy men" - good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 10:40 PM
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All people should stop buying iPhones, why are profit margins so high?! But then again, if you missed the point with women, why do I expect you to realize it for iPhones?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 07:47 PM
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I think you're missing the point - the sex is not the revenge, the lack of attention/affection besides sex is. I don't think most women would like that (besides the obvious kink of feeling like that in bed sometimes). About sex itself being degrading besides case in point: I don't think most men think that, maybe some do, and other do sometimes depending on their mood. But sex can be degrading, in both a good way and bad. For example if a girl likes getting slapped in bed, it's not the feeling o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 03:08 AM
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They're describing the qualities that'll make her stay with a guy she's already attracted to, not how to be attractive to her in the first place - being attractive is a given, otherwise there's nothing to discuss. How to be attractive? good genes, gym, diet, sleep. injections/fillers etc. surgeries.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 02:20 AM
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I think they mean in a more general “man should lead” - i.e even if it’s social circle they want the man to do the first move
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 05:59 AM
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The ovulating vs not ovulating seems to be overstated and doesn't replicate well. There is however, a new dual-mating supporting study about infidelity by Macken Murphy et al. If you're interested: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1090513824000710 tl;dr - people tend to cheat up in physical attractiveness (men too)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 01:44 AM
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I... I just wanna say I don't endorse his opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 07:26 AM
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Overall promiscuous people tend to have sex with other promiscuous people. When you bring a girl home from a club, 9/10 it’s not her first and only time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 09:23 PM
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You said "destroys your life", how would it destroy their life without it affecting their long-term mental-state/stability (a.k.a mental illness and specifically PTSD)? The thing happened like 20 years ago, she talks about it matter-of-factly, and it definitely didn't shift her politics on such matters (i.e she thinks metoo was an overkill). She's now married with a kid to a great guy, so yeah I'd say she's mostly fine - not that she doesn't have other quirks about her (she's into coaching last …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:01 PM
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I said the equivalence is false, why would you answer as if I was comparing it? Also - I do know girls who were attacked, and I know a girl who was brutally raped - some make an identity out of it, some don't. The girl who had it worst seems to just treat it as a violent attack rather than an attack on her sexuality - She says the worst was actually how people around her treated her because of it and made her feel fragile. So traumatic - yeah, by definition - but post-traumatic is optional for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:35 PM
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I just don’t really see why any comparison needs to be found. Low value men face hardships. Low value women face other hardships. Women who were raped face other hardships still and so on
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 02:45 AM
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Froth their loins, not inflame. It would inflame if you don't wash your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 01:54 AM
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I appreciate the moral bankruptcy, but the equivalence is just false. Most women who've been assaulted just go on with their life, they don't make an identity of it and you won't hear about it unless you really know them and it comes up. If you wanna take the hard-case neurotic ones and compare only them.. Still I don't see the connection except both having lower-value, and in that case you don't need any sexual assault - just take unattractive neurotic women and compare them to incels and be do…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:15 AM
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What? I din’t think most women talk in detail about their sex life… Also, she’s more than welcome to tell what we did if she has the courage.. I have a hard time believing women throw “and then he sat on my face” around
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 02:47 AM
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I think people hype up acting uninvested too much. I was sold that thing when I was kid, worked wonders to help me stay introverted and shy while masquerading as aloof. I have a friend who does it well - he talks to girls all the time, showing minimal interest and pulling back - they seem to fall for it pretty hard. As for attractiveness - if you're really attractive pretty much any non-autistic behavior will work.. For me, I seem to be most attractive when I'm acting in a charming way - talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 02:17 PM
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Say you're hot without saying you're hot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:15 AM
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Why is it asked in 3 paragraphs when it could have been one sentence? I'm surprised any of them will even answer when the question even makes me gag.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 12:13 AM
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She’s one of the most famous singers because she makes people notice her and being “spicy” like that is just one thing she does
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 08:13 PM
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She’s making a big deal so that you’ll read her interview, in reality no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 02:01 PM

Dangerous != bad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:56 AM

That’s a good question, how do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/24 07:18 AM

Endless scrolling for one honest answer, thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 11:15 PM
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Maybe you're low in agreeableness - but I wouldn't say that's low social skills. Also - you *know* which rules you break, which means you're pretty keen about the social standards. But yeah - the cope is strong in this thread - people don't like to think attractive people get to 'break' more rules
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:26 PM
1

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:24 PM
1

I didn't say social skills are irrelevant, I said looks come first and more important. But social skills have their place indeed, and not a small one.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 09:23 PM
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Every speed dating study shows physical attractiveness (PA) plays the most important role. Studies show again and again people (and women even more) downplay the role of PA in their decision. There's a pretty new study showing women who cheat, cheat (on average) with higher PA partners than their current partner (surprisingly it seems to be true for men too). Having said all that - sure, you still need to act in an attractive manner, and it can salvage some points if your looks aren't all that. …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/24 01:00 PM

No, in most households men earn more. They might be marrying down in looks but they marry same-and-up socio-economically
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/24 04:01 PM
1

Keywords some and comorbidities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/24 12:50 AM
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They did, it was unrequited. They never had options or went outside enough to see that attractive men are more likely to be in a relationship and get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/24 02:03 PM
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Funny how you got downvoted, probably the only sane post here lately. Also - hoeflation or whatnot might as well be real, just means the market’s changed and leagues have been redistributed.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 11:39 PM
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This seems like you need to find a woman you’re compatible with, rather than “women” you’re not. I don’t know where those standards you talk of exist except in your and some other people’s minds. You like thin women? Good, go for them! No need to announce that fat women are doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/24 03:58 PM

I know clingy girls, you don’t need ti be a chad for them to cling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 04:32 PM

Or healthcare will keep progressing, as it has exponentially in the last 250 years, and this period of low western fertility will be a bleep in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/24 03:04 PM
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Well yeah men get more social pushback for pretty much anything.. They get it from men & women. Just the way things are, probably always have been, probably always will be.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 08:55 PM
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“Allowed” Are you suggesting we outlaw no-fault divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/24 06:31 PM

It’s not a losing battle to those who’re winning, but yeah you should choose the path most beneficial to you personally
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 01:01 PM

Not everything, but firstly and most importantly. People are happier with sub-optimal behavior the more attractive you are to them. Not that I advise behaving badly - but you definitely have more wiggle room for mistakes, a lot more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:59 PM

Only a small minority of men are physically sexually attractive..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 12:58 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:58 AM

What do you mean beauty is a scam? Also, attractive men are definitely treated differently everywhere, not just when finding a mate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/24 09:58 AM
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They're trying to appeal to females cuz females are hesitant to come - the guys will show up anyway - not to mention they'll show up even more if females are there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 05:35 PM
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Brain Drain? You think men who need to leave to find a mate are somehow higher-IQ? You're being delusional. High-IQ is correlated with attractiveness, height and being married. The only issue with high-IQ is they're less likely to have many children, which will cause brain-drain and negative economy consequences - high-IQ aren't leaving, if anything they're coming in (from asia etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 04:45 PM
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Only this
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/24 11:59 AM

Why didn’t you sleep-with? I mean that kind of instant attraction is rare.. might as well seize the day?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/24 02:02 AM
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What's "deep" and "thoughtful"? In my view, talking about what's attractive and not for men and women is very deep and thoughtful, and women tend to like talking about it with me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:39 AM
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You don't get to the couch and movie if you're not charismatic and fun - at least not in the way guys here want to get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/24 11:37 AM
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Hmm, I could be wrong, wouldn't go so far as delusional. Not jealous, not of him anyway. Sometimes insecure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:04 PM
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I’m not chad, therefore everyone else is. Sounds right. Pretty sure most girls would rather date me than him but w/e
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 01:21 PM
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He's not ugly, and probably attractive to some, but chad? comeon
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:26 AM
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I mean.. Unless you're semi-retired and working as a florist for fun - why are you concerned with dating earning minimum wage @ 22? If you've been to college - that's enough time out of there to advance to more senior levels who don't earn minimum (or your degree enables a non-minimum salary from the get-go). If you haven't - you're already like 5-6 years in the job market... Minimum wage at that age means there's a reason for it - either not trying or not capable, both of which are red flags fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/24 11:23 AM
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״Someone will” - I think that’s where you lost most guys
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/24 03:46 PM
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Hmm.. I've actually seen a balding short ugly 40y/o making out with a girl I was afraid to talk to in a club in Krakow, so while yeah - looking good is a lot better, you don't need to be top-tier to find a pretty hot girl to make out with if you're on the lookout. Also, while I wouldn't rate myself an 8 back then, probably I was some girls' type still.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 07:54 PM
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I wouldn’t say I was an 8 before.. Photofeeler 8 isn’t what you’d expect from 8. Might be 8ish now
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:53 PM
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lol, none of the “issues” you raised are of any relevancy to the individual.. “Fuck your dating and personal problems, why don’t you deal with amorphic group and civilization issues instead”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 08:08 PM

The fact that it’s kinda true for specific individuals doesn’t make it generally true. Also - you wouldn’t get reported, probably only (probably kindly) rejected
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/24 12:27 PM
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Half of responses here are "don't talk to women anywhere cuz you'll get reported for harassment"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:09 AM

Thank you for this - I need a reminder every once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/24 01:06 AM
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I can do CS masters, I can’t read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:49 AM
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Why would you go through all that trouble... If a girl outright says 'no' - you better be stopping or you're liable for a bad night at the least. If you think she might actually want you but still says 'no' - you better be stopping or you're liable for a bad life - don't mess with these types.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/24 03:07 AM
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The scenario you described isn’t a turn off, it’s an ego boost. I’m not turned off by women approaching me - if she’s attractive I’m very pleased and will def accept. Doesn’t mean I’m in love tonight
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/24 04:50 AM

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/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 06:37 PM
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That's fine, you should then leave the negotiation table. I'm just saying people negotiate, not that you should concede to their wants. You asked why some men do it - they feel like they can negotiate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:57 AM
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I'm not getting out of my way to meet them (i.e I don't usually go out to parties of people that young), And I usually don't match them on Tinder. In other words - they're hot, but it's not that I don't have fun with older girls who're also hot/cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:54 AM
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Most men date around their age. I date around my age. 24y/os are still hotter on average.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 01:02 AM
1

Keep getting surprised by people trying to negotiate then
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/24 12:59 AM
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Why do people try to negotiate about anything at all? They want something
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/24 08:07 PM
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As they should (except the age gap thing - unattractive 30s 40s are even more unattractive than when they were 28.. why would young girls go for them?)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 06:35 PM
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Actually I feel like overall hotter girls treated me way better than average-less-than-average girls
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:01 PM
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The problem is in the word “women” - some women really never fuck fast.. Some women think they never do it but they did it once or twice. Others say they never do it but have done it enough. Others yet are full blown self-acknowledged sluts. It’s not the man that makes the demisexual go slut-mode - it’s usually just a different population of girls treated as one. As an example - Last girl I had sex with fucked me on first date. We’re now friends so we don’t sleep together anymore. Anyway she now…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 05:59 PM
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It's not fucking static.. It depends on who you are and where you start. I've seen 5 girls go to be 7s, same for guys, 8s even.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 11:34 PM
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lol, what does that even mean? You need permission to fuck girls? Very uncasanova of you. Anyway yeah I'm now in that phase, and while it's fun - better wake up early and be done with it before 30 (unless you decide LTRs are just not for you and that's ok too)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 07:14 AM
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...You do know most men don't self-improve though, right? You're not in competition with men living in 2050.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 11:45 PM
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I mean.. I’ve had a one night stand with a pretty hot girl. I’ve had makeouts with hot girls. I’ve had fwbs. I’ve had an LTR with a hot girl. I wouldn’t call myself really hot in any of these timelines. I would say I’m pretty attractive nowadays, but back then probably just above average while sometimes managing to be cool and funny when I don’t fumble myself. But yeah it definitely becomes easier the better you look
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/24 09:11 PM
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It depends - if we know each other and everything's fine then a one-time thing like that is a non-issue. Otherwise I'm rethinking things. It happened only once, was an fwb where other things irked me about her anyway - didn't fuss about it too much but it definitely made me think she's lame at the time. Anyway the next times were better and I never thought of it again until this post. As for fault - who cares? Either I'm inviting her back again or I'm not. If this happens enough so that we need …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 05:24 AM
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Ratio of men to women on Tinder is different than real life. In real life women don't get asked out by hundreds of potential guys per day. In real life girls see you move, act and hear you - giving your more wiggle room than being photogenic or not. That said - there's certainly a good correlation between success irl and on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 02:06 AM
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I think if you're the only guy in your group who often gets hit on and gets sex offers, and friend's gfs offer you weird things - you generally notice things. I can't say I've seen too many proper chads in my life to even worry about it tbh, maybe if I lived in the netherlands.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:46 AM

There are no attractive men who can't get a date. There are delusional men, and there are men who don't try.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:36 AM
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Hmm.. I have an incel friend - he doesn't identify as incel in the sense of having all that jargon, but he's a virgin except hookers (he almost got to be a wizard, now he's 34y/o). tbh he does look bad - overweight and not handsome - but he could look normal had he taken care of himself. Major social anxiety Major general anxiety Depression (diagnosed, mostly untreated) 4a. Very lazy - can't get himself to study or work in anything. Very neurotic. borderline poor Actually high IQ, probably top 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 12:20 AM
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The older with younger is usually countered with “yeah the girl is a low self-esteem fuck-up and he’s taking advantage” - as if the rest are stoic 9s with a math ph.d
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:55 PM
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If you’re attracted to the women it’s worth it… Also, even though some people moan about it - some women do like older guys for whatever reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:51 AM
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I don't know dude, I think attractive guys athlete level had orbiters even before apps. My most attractive friend never installed Tinder - he said he's already fucked in the head so that'll make him totally lose it (btw he's now getting married to a girl around his age, contrary to wall thing). I'd see girls go up to him in the gym and straight up offer to meet though, so he's definitely considered attractive. For me personally, 90% of the girls I had sex with were from apps - So I think there's…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:34 PM
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Hmm.. I mean men here do needlessly whine about women's so-called standards. BUT - I do think a lot of women downplay by a lot how much looks matter - not just when deciding IF to date someone, but even in how they react to a person, given his/her looks - which pretty much means you automatically appear more confident/funny/social if you look better. I don't see a reason to whine about it, men do the same whether they see it or not - responsibility is still on the person left wanting - if they t…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:46 AM
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90% of posts in this sub are categorical errors. Equality under law doesn’t mean “I want to have sex with my identical twin” You can’t change people’s attraction preferences by appealing to logic or morals - most women are attracted to certain traits and that’s that - either maximize your traits or don’t but no one is gonna negotiate physical attraction, including your morally superior self.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/24 06:21 PM
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They want an attractive partner, that doesn't mean they want their partner to be more attractive than themselves. Most good looking girls I know prefer to be the pretty one. But actually now I see where I made the erroneous assumption. Also - I don't know which men have this fantasy - if a girl isn't physically attracted to me I'm gone before she can say "not my type"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 01:07 PM
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When an ugly guy hits on her it's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of supply & demand estimation. Also, she's supposed to be cuter - it's called the fare sex for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/24 12:25 PM
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My Photofeeler rates went from 7-8 to 9.7 after jaw surgery 🤷🏻‍♂️ Also before that, my face and posture gained some from exercise - I was too skinny and it made my nose stick out, combine that with bad posture and you’re not really impressive. People say I was pretty attractive before surgery (after exercise) - getting makeouts with pretty hot girls in clubs definitely worked out sometimes - but jaw surgery definitely nullified most looks-related insecurities I had. So yeah I stand by it - exerc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:40 PM

Yeah, most early twenties girls don’t go older. Most people are emotionally damaged, so it’s pretty easy to say the one/ who are attracted to older are mostly emotionally damaged. If you’re really hot and look young I don’t think a 24y/o who wants casual would refuse just cause you’re 10 years older but what do I know. Would be interesting if there are mid30s around which consistently match the younger crowd. I’m not on the apps rn, might give it a other try and report to see what happens - my b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/24 06:33 PM
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Yeah... The best 'talker' I know (i.e a guy who gets girl going by nonstop talking) is a guy whos parents are divorced, and probably none of them married for love in the first place. He himself plans on basically never having kids and only wants a wife one day so there will be someone to take care of him when old. He's very eloquent, smart and sharp though - tag along with good facial features and he always has 1-2 girls having a crush on him at work. When he's in the zone I can't keep up tbh - …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 08:25 PM
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Then. Also no - My profile says short-term, open to long, I don't make a lot of talk before meeting up, and I escalate fast. I don't talk about my intentions if she doesn't cuz there's no reason to burden the mood with unnecessary comments - but I never lie about it if she asks.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:08 PM
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...By definition 'Chad' looks so good he gets pretty much any girl.. lets say he 'only' gets 20% of the girls he wants - why spend time with older* girls? Sure, there are the ones who just like older women - pretty rare and mostly unchadly. It's not a no-true-chad - it's a no-true-chad-would. *above 40
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 12:06 PM
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I don't get it.. Why make everything a social 'issue'. "Male sexlessness" is pretty much the same it's been for the last decade (no, don't use that 2018 hiccup - it's back to average after that). Yes, some men are lonely - most are driven by their own anxiety and timidness - and then some are truly unattractive men who'll just have to make due with their circumstances (i.e concentrate on their true looksmatch and/or go to prostitutes). It's always been the case that some men and women are left o…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 03:15 AM

Being fit and decently-muscled definitely helps a lot. My shoulders and back really got a good shape lately. But yeah if you don't look good, are short and have a lackluster hairline don't expect girls to be all over you
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/24 01:04 AM
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Well yeah I think it has it’s own set of issues - but if that’s what you want by all means go for it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:48 PM
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Rationalizing isn’t regret. All people rationalize to different extents, maybe girls a bit more but I’m biased as I talk to more types of women than men
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:47 PM
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Well yeah that’s what I usually do.. I don’t know about fairness, and I do accept the safety issue - just saying it would have been fun if it’d occasionally happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:46 PM
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Most women can't get (a relationship with) a man who's really to their liking. For some of them it's better to try and discern who has enough potential to become that man (while also having enough 'heart' not to let it get into his head). I wouldn't give it as general advice, but it can work really well. Most people should invest in index funds, but some people make huge returns by stock picking
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:12 PM
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lol "virgin", I just don't get it tbh, I think a virgin girl is the most volatile thing to date in existence. I think a girl who's done mainly good-natured LTRs is the sweet spot for... well... LTRs. None of those "All my exes are assholes" types
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 06:01 AM
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Hmm yeah same tbh I mean I'm mainly going for casual - but if I wanted LTR I'd do same It would be fun if I could just say "hey lets meet up at my place", but tbh it just doesn't work that way in vast majority of cases. I do think women aim higher in looks when explicitly going for casual (as opposed to going on a date to see what happens), so I actually think it might be worth it to have those tags. Anyways, you validate my confirmation bias so I approve you this message
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:59 AM
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They don't fuck young chads - they fuck younger fine-looking men I don't think most women regret their choices in the manner RP/incels advocate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:51 AM
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The older women aren't competing for the same men, cuz men vastly tend to rather date/have-sex with younger women I know a guy who fucks older women - if younger women would have him as often, he would go for them Older men however are a bit more competition - for instance I know a guy my age who's gf/bf with a 26y/o Anyway those instances aren't common enough to weigh on the market I think - most couples are within 4 years of each other
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 05:49 AM

You misrepresent his reply - he didn't say incels as people who don't get sex existed only recently - he's saying the group of incels who make this their identity is new - and that they do have their own subculture and memes I personally find their memes ultra funny
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:31 AM

(my period button stopped working, sorry in advance) I mean sure, you can laugh at it in a "no one wants to touch my pee-pee" way - but try (if you can imagine it) to think of a situation where during your whole life, you perceive almost everyone to be mildly irritated by your presence, and every guy you ever thought of romantically either ignores you completely, or gives excuses as to why you can't have any physical contact I'm not talking about a guy who's clearly attracted to you, wants to ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:24 AM

Most don't. Most self-described incels are average-to-below looks-wise, high neuroticism, high risk-aversion and about 30% of them are autistic. You know who else are average-to-below looks-wise? 50% of the population. Now, I'm not saying they should just "take it on the chin" - but as I see it it's either improve yourself, both looks-wise and personality-wise in any way you can and accept YMMV, or indeed take the L. Lashing out at society is a long-shot that would probably just leave you a bitt…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 04:17 AM
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But that's pretty much what I'm saying.. That the clit is the important part - even in so-called 'piv' orgasms. I think some women just aren't aware that it's their clitoris being stimulated - I can accept that since the clitoris' nerves go inside they yeah the upper wall could be stimulated and still produce a response
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/24 02:27 AM
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They wouldn't be able to tell if it's penis on clit or penis in vagina causing it... Just that some women's clit are well-positioned for "piv" orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 05:12 AM
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Yes. When you're 40 he's 41-44 - not like he's gonna have 19y/o running up to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/24 02:40 AM
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TL;DR you can’t predict a good chess move but you can definitely factor in monogamy as saving civilization - nice try
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:17 PM
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The “be yourself”, “you are enough”, “love me for me” terrorist organization
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 08:16 PM
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Dude… You’ve been sold a fairy tale. No one ever loved someone without getting something out of it - money, affection, mere attention
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 11:01 AM
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Who the fuck has a face tattoo? Stop hanging around prisons or prison-goers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 09:37 AM
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Well yeah looks matter.. Extraversion matters too - correlates 0.3 with sexual partner # and independent of looks. I think you’re underestimating how exercise helps with posture and face shape for those who were too fat/skinny. Then there’s surgery - sometimes a small change can be 2 hotness points. But sure, if you’re a genetic no-go it’s an issue - just that most aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 07:46 AM
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He didn't say it's extremely high, he said it's high in relation to an average man. The average man has no real prospects and is relying on average women to be like "ok he's nice we'll see where it goes" - so yeah. that guy getting a young fit woman is definitely a commendable achievement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:02 AM
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Well yeah if you're a guy who's gonna stay single into your 30s you better be top form, no shit
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/24 01:01 AM
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Fragile male egos - yeah, sound like your ego never got hit by a guy, you're strong. Their business or not - you're gonna hide it cuz you have an intuition they'll feel differently about you if they knew. You wanna moralize it? fine, then go hang out with the rest of the incels on here who only care about who's "right", as if that's even a thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 01:55 AM
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Physical attractiveness has very little correlation with sexual partner count. Probably most hot men sow their wild oats early and don’t care for the casual lifestyle late into adulthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:50 AM
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I never said anything about the ugly/mid - just the attractive. Of course everyone wants the best - but the ugly/mids - especially older ugly/mids - can't get the attractive young. Point was attractive girls are attracted to attractive men - if the men are a bit older it usually doesn't change much if they look young enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/24 12:16 AM
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I've had sex plenty with multiple women, I don't think it doesn't make a difference or doesn't bother people. Sure - OP is exaggerating - but sexual history in the woman you love is an issue for a lot of guys - there's a reason girls tend to hide flings and body-counts. I resolve it for me by just telling myself in advance that the 'purity' sense you get when you love someone is just that - a feeling, and I just never pry on sexual histories. At the same time - I can totally see, if I love someo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:42 PM
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Why has this sub become such a blackpill fatalist doomer haven? Every day a new neurotic apocalypse scenario. You do know humans have been around for at least like 200k years and everything's still working, right? You think Tinder is what's gonna break humanities' mating shtick? Women are not men - the vast majority don't think it's cool to be a side-chick to a hot guy - it's cool for some of them for some time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 11:22 PM
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Attractive people want attractive people. If you’re 38 and hot and look 28, you’ll be fine. If you look like a school teacher then good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 03:01 AM
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Why isn’t he 6’0 full hair and earning 120k though?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/24 02:58 AM
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Would you suggest female dogs back up into male dogs to solve dogs mating issues too?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 07:25 PM
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It'd be certainly plausible for it to happen less often to women than men. "No", implying never, is probably not a we thing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:21 AM
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I don't know if proof is the right word but may as well... http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/~simon/dissertations/saxton.pdf It also found co-variance in the attractiveness of male faces and voices, suggesting that the modalities of face and voice are providing concordant signals as to mate quality. https://www.columbia.edu/~rmk7/PDF/Voice.pdf Two experiments examined listeners ability to make accurate inferences about speakers from the nonlinguistic content of their speech. In Experiment I, naıve listene…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/24 01:19 AM
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Why aren't you making a username per person? How many are you in there?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:57 PM
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Hot guys have cool voices
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:55 PM
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You mean you find the majority of men attractive to the point of mesmerisation? I mean in my book they're 75% pretty much unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 11:54 PM
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Thank you, arbiter of mentally healthy people
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 09:33 PM
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Sometimes it's borderline. I'm more strict nowadays
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:08 PM
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Thanks for proving my point
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 07:06 PM
-2

best predictor of women value is looks ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:33 PM
0

"Mentally healthy people" is always follows by bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:31 PM
0

She's not average
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:30 PM
12

Wow.. She's very oblivious
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:30 PM
1

It happens to mid-women or attractive-but-insecure - It makes them consider they're on that dude's level which makes them anxious - also it makes it seem acceptable to others that she's talk to that guy. I have an annoying experience in Tinder where I can sort of expect in advance the girls who'll match - and obviously most who like are those I consider unattractive, not to mention they often look for long-term - I wouldn't say insulted is the words, but it can get frustrating depending on my mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 06:29 PM

Men aren't safer.. they're just not expected to meet with other strange men alone unless gay
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 12:35 PM
5

"She doesn't like the real youuu!!! I was promised I can be a cave troll!!!!" Did you ever love a girl for the "real her"? What is the real you/her? If she takes a shower, puts on deodorant, does her hair, puts on perfume, a nice dress, goes to the gym 3 times a week, eats right, puts on make-up, acts nice even when she's a bit annoyed with work. Which of those thing that she did are the real her, vs things she's trying to 'archetype-conform'? Would you love her if she took out those things? "I …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/24 01:51 AM
1

Why are we talking about responsive desire as if it's fact and not hypothesis? (also, is it even falsifiable?)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 11:14 PM
2

Never heard of it until now, he looks like shit I could care less about some BPD comorbids going for him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 09:33 PM
1

It doesn't sound crazy and it's not crazy - human mating prospects are always a sign of status - it's called trophy wife for a reason. EDIT: In that same vein - When I'm walking with a girl I get stares from almost every girl sitting around, when I walk alone I'm almost stealth mode
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/24 05:45 PM
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Underrated reply
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/24 02:45 AM

Top guys yeah - but just good looking (7+) won’t be able to be that selective for casual
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/24 11:03 PM
5

Red pill was initially about self-improvement and "understanding" how people work. Sure, they got a lot wrong - but at least it was an honest effort - a red pill as opposed to the bluepill copium society (i.e movies, tv) feeds people. Nowadays - it's 3rd wave feminism for men - blaming women for not touching your peepee while you're being a loser. I still stick to the early message (minus the bullshit theory they got wrong) - Get fit, get fashionable, take action (escalate) and learn how to comm…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/24 11:41 PM
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"But an important thing is I screwed up some lucky experiences by telling myself “oh she’s too hot for me”. " Yup, definitely me. I don't get approached often - but when I do she's way cuter than I expect and I fumble badly. Also yes to hotter girls responding better, but I've covered that in another reply. Keep going dude, fuck those guys - Some of them just literally can't believe there are guys on Reddit who have casual sex as it must be such a rare phenomena
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:42 PM
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Dude that is so me - I have literally fat girls go "yeah I'm just not feeling it", and then a 9 (ok 8+ - but definitely best looking in the venue) who I wouldn't think I have a chance with makes-out with me in 3 minutes in a club without even saying anything. I still think there are definitely levels - but you can consistently get +1.5 points probably from whatever you are. Definitely the better looking girls tend to have a better attitude. EDIT: Also yes - the most insulting things said to me w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:31 PM
1

Guilty as charged. I'm a bit hyper-sensitive to stranger's reactions to me - so I really need to be in the mood to approach. I think I'm pretty disagreeable once you know me a bit - but for some reason with strangers I'm a bit stifled. Fact is - I usually get surprised by the good responses. Of course there are rejections, and some are even "ugh, you're interrupting us" - but then there's the hottie who brightens up after you do/say something half-decent and I'm like "oh, this actually works". I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 04:20 PM
3

"Do the opposite: see her as a service provider and figure out what she needs from you." Yeah... that's not how service *providers* work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 03:35 PM
1

Well yeah I've picked up hot girls even when I was in the US, Germany or Poland - but w/e keep thinking girls are magically fucking average men if you're not in G7. Take down your RP badge, you're definitely a Blackpill fatalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:10 AM
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I mean.. If you're unattracted to 90% of the population, probably the ones you're attracted to aren't average. Maybe they're the average among those you're willing to consider? Apart from that - Yeah in theory some currently-average guys could be attractive - but most of them won't do what it takes. And I'm not talking about their profiles - I'm talking about the fact that just seeing people on the street, they're mostly unattractive (not ugly, but they won't inspire sexual attraction from their…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:04 AM
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No - 95-5 is feels good. MEH GIRLS ARE TOO STRICT! This is saying basically that if you're getting 0 dates you're probably not even in the top 3rd.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 01:00 AM
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You do know pretty much every country in Europe isn't English native.. right? I probably speak English better than you, I just forgot the word for subordinate and was wondering whether I'm aiming for subordinates or supervisees. So yeah. good troll radar overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/24 12:55 AM
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I think you're overestimating the attractiveness of the average girl
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:31 PM
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Oh I never thought that’s the average guy’s experience - but you don’t need to look top 20% either. Girls would bang a 7 any day
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:56 AM
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Women are kinky and very sexual with me, I’m good looking but no one will say “Omg chad is here”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:35 AM
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You’d think - but then you have totally normal guys fucking girls in toilets. Yes - chad’s options are incomparable - but casual is still up for grabs if you’re decently good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:30 AM
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I don’t get it, blackpillers are saying this here for tears and get shutdown, and now 2 of these in a row?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:25 AM
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Maybe you do, the girls I had casual sex with, I took the lead 🤷🏻‍♂️ I usually fumble it when they approach me anyway cuz I’m too surprised Also - you’re a blackpiller’s dream come true - yes the really hot guys famous etc get girls thrown at them - but other good-looking guys can definitely get enough random hookups if they play their cards right
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 05:22 AM
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Of course it's not attainable for a lot of men - it's above average. If you assume men attractiveness is distributed normally around 5 with 2 standard deviation - then 7+ is like 33% of men. Thing is - women are distributed normally around 5 - men are always at least slightly to the left of that, which means (if we still keep sd 2) it's less than 33%. BUT - it's not the top 5% or top 10% or all those crazy things thrown around here, nor is it 6'+ - women are picky, most of them are just not THAT…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 04:16 AM
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Yeah the average man is unattractive imo, and the average man on Tinder is even more so. A lot of people here thought I tried to imply women aren't selective or something like that - All I said is that the standards are quite a bit lower than advertised - they're still definitely there, especially online where, due to supply and demand, women are looking for reasons to swipe left and guys are looking for reasons to swipe right. Anyway - What would you consider 'artsy' pics? You've referenced tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 02:07 AM
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I match late20s to early 30s - I pretty much advertise I'm there for casual without being blunt about it - Some are hung-up on finding a long-term partner, but a lot are pretty open to have some fun in the meanwhile. Usually it becomes a casual thing where we meet weekly/bi-weekly, until she either finds a boyfriend or she starts to perceive it's messing with her long-term searching process. If I end it, it usually means I wasn't that attracted to begin with - I try to cut those cases to a minim…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 01:59 AM
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Oh I never said women aren't more selective than men, just that they're not as selective as advertised. Also - An 8 man would very rarely fuck a 5 - not when he feels an 8 anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:32 AM
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I have a friend who fucked 2 21y/o this year - he's not Leo di caprio but he has a good face I'd say. redhead, too skinny, balding but had really good hair back in the day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:28 AM
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Yeah, I mean I'm 5'11 and I claim 6'0 cuz if you say 5'11 they think you're 5'8
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:12 AM
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i don't get it though.. have you been shamed for just talking to a woman in a bar? At the gym? I see people hitting on women all the time.. I admit I'm a bit shy of just hitting on girls mid-day, but I definitely do it in clubs..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:10 AM
1

lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:08 AM
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Don't hotter guys have an easier times making you feel the vibe? Also - do you not feel the attraction/excitement on the app? at least if the guy is really your type physically?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/24 12:08 AM
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Doing what you want is the hardest and most courageous thing tbh. Selfish, not coward. U less done purely from the reasons you stated, but that’s not why I’m or other guys I know aren’t married.. Also you can get a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:27 PM
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Ah cool - yeah my issue was usually being on the scrawnier side - right now 140lb@5’11 and going up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:23 PM
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There are… successful guys… who’re not old and fat. Mark Manson was awesome circa 2011 imo 🤷🏻‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:20 PM
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She said she didn’t feel attraction, that’s what I was referring to.. Anyway - do you at least signal to those super attractive men? Prolonged eye contact in a bar/club?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:19 PM
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Yeah, I still vaguely remember the headline - relentless? He was a bit too much for me tbh, can’t take advice from the old fat guy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:17 PM
2

There was an actress who said her beauty is the kind that moves (I think in response to questioning her still images or something)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:16 PM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:15 PM
2

Well there’s quite a difference between no success on apps, mild success on apps and wild success on apps
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:15 PM
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I’m talking about stated standards rather than revealed ones - my claim is that the stated standards are non-trivially higher, especially online
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:14 PM
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Well if you’re getting approached enough to have a semi-active sex life you definitely should be confident
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:12 PM
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Well yeah if you’re not gonna take care to be presentable and put up a nice profile you have nothing to complain about. What I have in mind is more of the guys who take care of themselves, go to the gym have nice clothes, made a good profile and are 5’9+. Once you’re in that group - yeah you’re not gonna be slaying but a lot of girls won’t pass you up because “omg not 6’” - that’s the idea. If the guy isn’t even aware and putting in the effort I can’t even take his complaints seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:08 PM
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That’s what I’m saying - they like to advertise as having super high standards, but irl they still go out with whatever turns them on. Btw - did you see a change in matches/attention from lifting? (I didn’t look at your profile so if you’ve been lifting since like 13 I guess that would be a weird question lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:02 PM
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What I claim is they adjust real time - they announce 6’ while fucking 5’9s
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 09:00 PM
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I have a friend with 50+ body count, like 90% from work, so I don’t know what to tell you. He’s careful not to date his.. meh, I’m not english native - the ones who’re directly under his supervision
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:59 PM
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Doesn’t “looks matter less” mean a relaxed physical attraction threshold for long-term? I’m not saying the long-term would be unattractive, just wondering if less attractive than short
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:57 PM
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lol, how the fuck do you know my ‘tier’? I’ve had girls reject me in a “why is he even talking to me” way, and I’ve had girls going down on me hours before going on dates - you’re jaded from watching too much bullshit online and too little actual girl behavior input. Yes, if you want to enjoy casual sex with cute girls you have to be pretty attractive - what a shocker. Bar isn’t that high, but I never said it’s low or that average guys would have much fun along the way
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:51 PM
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Yeah but it’s an ideal like “hot blond blue eyes 9” - when I go home with a “7” I don’t think “too bad her hair is dark” while making out with her.. I specifically chose 7 and not 5 - if something about her is objectively unattractive it will be an annoyance.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:47 PM
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It’s a nice hypothesis, which I fully subscribed to - but it seems to not replicate - maybe it works with some substrata of girls, but not generally. The most obvious case I’ve seen was a slutty bartender who told me and an fwb (after she found out we’re fwb and not a couple) - “There are guys you date and guys you fuck amiright??” Tbh it was quite a mindfuck hearing it out loud back then
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:44 PM
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The only thing I’ve seen changing is they get annoying a bit before blood and get annoyed a bit after blood
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:41 PM
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On Bumble for some reason I have more matches - I always naturally get stricter as I swipe and see matches accumulating. Obviously not near hot girl level but it happens. That’s why I’m sure Chad is not out there fucking 5s - who matches a 5 when you match every 4th 8?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:36 PM
1

Is that the old guy who says every girl wants to get bent except your mom and sister?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:33 PM
1

Well yeah there’s always the pathological cases
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 08:32 PM
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Yes, also I think some facial features really mess up pictures but aren't as bad irl. For example a big nose and a slightly receded chin would be a slight "his profile isn't awesome" irl - but on cam it's like "something is definitely off with his face" in a lot of angles. it's also the type of things girls are quick to fix by nose-jobs or fillers whereas guys mostly just play what they were dealt. Would you say your comment is right mainly for long-term things, or apply to short-term/casual hoo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:16 PM
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Damn the zodiac signs - this guy knows. I actually met one very high-IQ girl who likes the horoscopes thing, but eventually she conceded that she doesn't believe it's true but like thinking as if it is. Other than that I use it as a coarse stupidity filter. But yeah good on you for still going out there - a lot of guys get anxious about it online and just self-defeat and stop meeting girls, going "80-20"
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:12 PM
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Yes - I'm just here to remind people the advertisement isn't the product - they're less selective than they advertise. I mean there are social gatherings and circles where you can meet women - if you're very introverted and like being at home on Reddit then I get it, there's not much of a 'drive' to go out to such events consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 03:00 PM
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I know both of them - she loved him, he cheated on her. Looking back she's like "he looks like shit he got that swag, I don't know what I found in him". She ended up marrying a pretty attractive guy tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:58 PM
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I didn't say they're not more selective - I'm arguing about how much more selective they are. They're not hyper-selective as advertised. Also - it's not just because they can afford it - it's also because they can't afford not to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:57 PM
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I mean.. even as a guy I see that some (very rare, maybe once a year in my city) guys are just uber-attractive - you never see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:55 PM
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Tinder is (perceived) as quick and low-effort, gamey 'might get lucky' - it's a casino mindset - you know the chances are against you but maybe the gods will smile. I mean a lot of men are in relationships.. and those who aren't don't make the cut - either cuz they're too cowardly and got filtered by the perceived high-standards so they don't 'apply for the job' - or cuz they're truly below the mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:38 PM
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I don't know if you're a guy or girl but that's pretty much my line of thinking. Indeed there's no downside to setting standards too-high and relaxing as needed - starting out with 'good' and negotiating to 'ok' might cause you long-term losses
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 02:35 PM
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Has his shit together meaning what? Very context dependent - I know a girl who dated a 10y/o older hair-dresser for like 4 years. He's petty average looking, pretty short, got swag and very outgoing. Shitness-together level: 0 She is considered pretty hot for what it's worth. For comparison I look better than that guy, smarter and have my shit together a lot more, but I don't work in a place where I meet tons of young women and I'm not as outgoing - so getting a 10y/o younger girl would take mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/24 01:36 PM
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There's nothing wrong with it, but thinking makes it so. if you want the evolutionary perspective - to me it signals a male who has trouble keeping an exclusive partner, so he shares upbringing kids who're not his own in the hopes that at least some will be his own. Take it or leave it - but that's probably the true loss of cuckoldry - the loss of parental certainty
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 06:21 PM
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Yes, she cried. I tried explaining that we’re friends but really I just don’t find her attractive. She still tries from time to time but doesn’t cry anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/24 04:44 AM
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Yes sorry I mixed up the sides, weird. Anyway still funny women rated PA more in the high budget scenario - though I guess it’s not statistically significant
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 07:28 AM
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Median sex partners is around 6, so you can expect him to have sex with 4-6 girls and get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 10:29 PM
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Yeah I wasn't comparing it to the high-budget scenario - I was comparing to men. On low-budget it seems women allotted a higher percentage to PA than men - that's pretty surprising I'd say
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 04:11 PM
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Am I reading this correctly? women assigned *more weight* to PA on the low-budget scenario? Why the fuck did they color it grey
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/24 12:32 PM
2

Or he just accepts he invests more time and energy... As 130IQ I invest more time and energy studying than 190IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 03:42 PM
2

I don’t know about shoulds, but sometimes it is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:17 AM

I'm a proof of this message
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:27 AM
4

Looks are most important, but the people whining on PPD showed me how personality can ruin men's chances
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:24 AM
2

And that's suppose to be the blue pilled opinion? Or did I fumble the sarcasm by reading too much PPD for one day?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:23 AM

Yeah again - it doesn't matter how I look like - fact is they're average. 2 is above average. 4 is above average with shit pictures. rest are average, at least one is below.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:16 AM

;) EDIT: I think some girls do like some amount of dorkiness, but he's way overdoing it imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:12 AM

I don't think I'm attractive enough to get swiped, I just get swiped.. not by the hottest girls but by girls my peers seem to be jealous of. And yes I'm pretty sure these guys aren't, not by good looking girls anyway. As I said I expect date2 to be swiped fine, and date4 if he improves his pics. Others are a no-go imo. You mean people overestimate themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 02:11 AM

Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:48 AM

He said it himself - that he "doesn't know the rules" of when it's ok to ask for a meeting. He said it twice in different ways. He went on and on in a long conversation fumbling over himself. He's surprised that a date is possible, which is weird. I'm pretty sure most girls would just be "ok he can't take the hint enough with this unconfident bs". At the same time - he's the most (and kinda the only) attractive one of the bunch (4 is ok too). I actually think a girl who'll push through his uncon…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:40 AM

Let me be clear here cuz some guys whined in the comments about me thinking the guys aren't attractive enough to be right-swiped on. Most of them aren't - and they're probably not getting good matches usually. Date2 looks good but is VERY insecure - no way he gets dates like that. Date4 looks good but has terrible picture which means there will be no swiping. Others are 6.5 and below which means no matches or matches mostly with girls people here whine about. Last but not least - I'm sure you co…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:24 AM

I'm not a 10, I told you what I think about myself in another comment and why me being attractive or not doesn't change their attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:11 AM

They look very normal and decent I didn't say they weren't (except one).. Average guys are unattractive looks-wise, is this new to anyone? Date 2 is actually kinda attractive - but he's way too insecure to be getting dates on Tinder EDIT: 4 is fine too but it's a terrible way of taking pictures and presenting yourself, I'm not gonna edit the rest of my comments so that's the only place where I'll say anything retroactively about #4.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:08 AM

lol I didn't post about going bald - I commented (don't think I posted) about shedding. It stopped since then and my hair is still very much intact - thanks for asking! EDIT: I did post. about shedding. While it is tempting to make you go "oh, yeah you look pretty good" as I tend to be vain, I'm not gonna indulge. I'd say I'm like a 7.5. I don't have a problem finding a woman who's into my looks but w/e. Last but not least: It doesn't really matter how I look, those guys are still not attractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 01:05 AM

I didn't say they're 4 - I said they're 6-6.5 (one of them is 5 but w/e). Date 2 is actually 7+ but as I said he's insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:53 AM

I'm not a model, they're just a swipe-left imo. I'm actually surprised by some of the people I've seen dating fine-looking women. Hell, I'm surprised at some of the girls I was able to makeout with (at the time)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 12:52 AM

I don't know dude, I know it's said but for me at least the woman being in a good spot academically is kind of a turn on.. Don't wanna turn this too nsfw but being kinky in a dominant way with a psychology phd is hot to me. I think if the girl is very fortune500-career oriented then she's usually not really my thing long-term but other than that I either don't mind or it's a turn on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:53 PM

30% is you finding tons of dudes attractive. I probably only see 15% as attractive - and that's in the most attractive city in my country, in the gym!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:49 PM

I'm a guy - the guys are unattractive (yes they're average, that's still unattractive). Except date 2 but he's VERY insecure and would be off-putting to pretty much all women except the one who'll tolerate that for a hidden gem.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:47 PM

I'm a guy - If I was a woman I wouldn't swipe right for any of these guys except for (maybe!) date 2 - and he definitely blew it up numerous times and wouldn't get a date with an attractive woman on Tinder talking like that. So yeah you've shown women can a date with a 6.5 man if they go on Tinder - no one even knows if he'll flake after fucking - but yay she got a date with a 6.5 ! Sure, she's not much better - but that doesn't matter she'll still feel shitty about having to date those men (as …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:40 PM

Date 2 is a 33y/o man who still "doesn't know the rules". I think the last time I said something like that was at 15y/o and he managed to say it twice. He's not even unattractive, wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 11:32 PM
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Not all anxieties are invalid, and probably a lot of them are rooter in some kind of bad/edgy experience or perception. But I really believe you can't know until you try enough, not to mention about the fact that anxieties stay way after the reason for them is gone. I can tell you I had eras where I couldn't approach any woman, thinking they'd see me as ugly. Fact is - when I did approach, even while feeling anxious - the results tended to surprise me. That's not to say a lot of it isn't a numbe…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/24 02:57 PM
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Well if so much of them can afford to have those expectations the probably there are enough men meeting them - making them very realistic. Toxic and harmful are stories which work on social ‘science’ journals, I don’t subscribe to these descriptions without proper definitions and evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:14 PM
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I do CBT sessions with a psychologist - though he’a pretty unconventional as far as mainstream ideas of therapy are concerned. I’d say it’s been helpful. I don’t think anyone thinks girls will be more attracted to you because of therapy.. if anything it might help you solve issues like social anxiety which inhibit you from approaching and attracting. But if you have 0 matches on Tinder then Therapy won’t have girls banging on your door (unless of course it prompts you to get full time gym and pl…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 05:54 PM
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Albert Ellis approached 100 women, he didn’t get a date but it pretty much cured his social anxiety. So yeah, if you’re being nice the rejections should be pretty soft and won’t leave you with 0 self esteem. Probably you’re over-estimating the toughness and amount of rejections. For me personally, some girls who made out with me I was very surprised they even agreed to talk to me (a post could be made ridiculing the idea of confidence based on my experience)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:18 AM
1

Wat, when does that happen? I mean girls broke up with me, no one disappears 2 months in..?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 06:14 AM
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I think it's reasonable for everyone to (want to) be selective - it's just not a reasonable strategy for a lot as taken to the limit, vast majority will just be left with no partners. The more attractive the woman, the more selective she can be in the starting phases, and the more selective she will tend to be, and vice versa. Sure, there are overly-selective medium-attractive women - it just means they have less tenable options and by the nature of things be selecting for men who tend to be und…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:37 AM

Oh I actually liked some of his videos, but I think I do remember there being a couple of "hmm, why would he say that" moments. Too bad. I'd say I'm a bit more red than evo-psych research would allow for, but a lot less red than the average RP (purple?)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/24 03:17 AM
2

Unless he’s way over her league there’s usually no reason to worry - a 9 rarely approaches a 6.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 12:58 AM
0

I mean why don’t people just take 6 months and go to the gym? Never saw a guy below 5 in the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 08:07 PM
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Women’s tastes change (a bit). Why wouldn’t they? There’s no real way a 39y/o would land an uprising 27y/o chad - what will she offer? When I say land I mean settle, not have a Tinder hookup (what chad has his filter that high in ages anyway) Men however, might still have some mid20s crowd well into their 40s if they have the funds and looks. So yeah - men tend to still like young hotties, women tend to converge towards sophisticated older men when older
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:46 AM
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Umm… I totally get what you’re saying, but most girls don’t act like that.. they break up or don’t even get in the relationship.. or cheat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 02:41 AM
1

Ok I was gonna write about how looks are mostly fixable if you have the willpower and (if needed) cash for it, but then I saw your comments on here - you're probably depressed and in need of a psychiatrist - this is not me dissing you, this is me telling you that I just hope psychiatry + CBT can help your case cuz otherwise you're in for a long and boring life
/r/seduction08/06/24 12:52 AM
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They're not logicing women into being attracted to them - they're trying to look and act more attractive - that's actually appeal to emotion/lust. I think the problem with the red pill is that it's a lot of bullshit and very little content. The good messages can be summed up as: Fitness & Fashion. Take action and don't be a pussy. Practice communicating with people in an effective manner. The other stuff is fluff or straight out bad for you
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:40 AM
1

Dude, peacocking works. If you dress in a way that draws attention - you'll draw attention. You think those blue haired woke guys aren't fucking?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/24 12:36 AM
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Why does it need to be said enough? Anyway I tend to agree - to the extent that some hot men really don’t give a fuck and some attractive men really don’t understand how attractive they are and anxiously shoot low. The latter are usually ugly ducklings. It reminds me of unattractive or mid men who’re very proud of themselves for never cheating - yeah dude, try being a c-list celebrity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 08:30 PM
3

What the hell is this bullshit communist/fascist/collectivist bullshit. I'll have humanity vanish before expecting people to become incubators - some people definitely lost it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/24 04:28 PM
1

I can just say that I have accumulated matches and chats, and these girls seem to never delete their account. I know of girls who delete, I don’t think for most it’s as often as your idea would demand
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 05:33 PM
1

lol dating an older rich guy is breaking the rules? More like textbook boring story
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:26 AM
4

Support them with.. $300?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/24 01:24 AM

There's a specific survey here with specific numbers, no need to bring your own
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:56 PM

But it’s 56% overall for the same age, are you implying there are less girls in that age bracket? It’s an arithmetic issue not a behavioral one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 08:04 PM

Well they're more than welcome to try and date. ime most men who don't date never try - they get rejected once or twice and conclude either that they're ugly or that women are. My first girlfriend was at 21 - Before her I didn't try nearly enough and almost fumbled it with her too. When I say not trying I don't mean they don't care - anxiety can make people not try anything and drive them to cope with some stupid beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:42 PM

I mean.. assuming a 50-50 split and knowing overall 56% and men 54%.. I don't see a way not to conclude women are at 58%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 07:39 PM
2

Well yeah now you see who men respond to
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 01:14 PM
3

I do too - I actually more care that they’re pretty than big - but girls care even more
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:17 AM
1

Yes, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:16 AM
2

Girls also care about their boobs more than guys - doesn’t mean it doesn’t matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:13 AM
1

Dude… I had fwbs, I had a hot wife who chose me, I’m not 0.3% in any way shape or form (much to my dismay). I’m probably not even top 10% except in qualities such as intelligence and income that you classify as beta. Oh - actually my cock is top notch tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:10 AM
1

I mean if my dick was less than 6.5” I’d be kinda insecure about it.. I like my cock, probably the physical thing I’m most confident about. Nah I totally get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/24 03:05 AM
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Why did you have to use only the birthing thing? Also it's way easier to make this idea work with 22-23, why involve political ages like 18? I agree in theory but you've made your case in a terrible way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 10:57 PM
1

No it's the fault of 50% of the population
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/24 10:22 PM
1

Just today I saw this girl who went all in on how she ADORES her father. Adding what I know about her drug abuse, sex drama and such I came to the conclusion that "daddy issues" is just bs - some girls have no father and fuck up, and some have a great father and fuck up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 01:39 AM
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The real answer is it doesn't work in muslim countries either - they have worse drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 12:55 AM
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You don't need to explain your standards to anyone, even if you did want to only date 6'1 - if you can get them and like them you should.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/24 12:20 PM
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The fact that men are more variable can only mean one thing - Women's choice varies quite a bit, or else men wouldn't be that varied.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:24 AM
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Well if it's good for you, then it's good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 12:23 AM
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I don't see a major change in women's attitudes between 28 and 32 tbh. Some do seem to lower their standards for long-term when they 'get it' that the knight in shining armor ain't gonna come, but doesn't seem to me same thing happens for short-term
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/24 06:51 PM
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You do know there are guys who were virgins until 30, decided to handle their social anxiety, went up to girls and had sex with quite a bit of them, right? How do you know your lot if you never even stepped in a gym?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:25 AM

Well I am divorced, but I was jk I usually hear no whispers.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/24 01:18 AM
-1

Freedom has been a failure, and is leading to the downfall of society. Education has been a failure, and is leading to the downfall of society. Monogamy has been a failure, and is leading to the downfall of society. Reddit has been a failure, and is leading to the downfall of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/24 12:58 AM
1

Why are all the lamenting posts so long with no tl;dr? You know the best sign of IQ? Compression. Everything is a valid reason for breakup/divorce, you get to make choices and live with their consequences - great right?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 12:36 PM

Society is not a thing, unless you can single-handedly command 50k people. Just try to make your life better, why is that so hard for people to grasp
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 09:24 PM
1

You said women are screwing up dating.. is that not a complaint..?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 02:01 PM
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Keep whining online then, see what I care
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:59 PM
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I’m not talking specifically about incel behavior in this sub, I’m talking about how I treat people irl or those who I do know how they look. I don’t tell anyone “you’re ugly, therefore…” - I just give it a good weight when processing their sayings (obviously about social stuff, it doesn’t really matter how anyone looks like if they’re’ talking about pure computer science) The OP proposed people (I’m against this being a ‘women’ thing, ugly men have the bias and sour grapes mentality too) have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:57 PM
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You said that opinion taken seriously according to women’s appearance is misogynistic- I said it’s not cuz I do the same with men. The post was about making appearances more known..
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:18 AM
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What so you mean? If I see the person I know more about them.. a fat ugly guy saying “women only want chad” is not the same as a decent looking 5’11 guy saying the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:12 AM
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I actually do it to men too, When talking about this kind of stuff, ad hominem is kind of a must to understand person’s background of experience. This thread is funny though ngl
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 07:03 AM
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It's at least a mid-wit response, low-iq wouldn't know what non-linear is. This post didn't elicit a high-IQ response from me as there was no need, have a N.I.C.E day!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:43 AM
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People tell you it's immature, bad and/or insecure because they want you to stop doing it. It's like it with every thing that's considered 'bad', whether it is bad (=you agree) or not. Now you have a choice - either go against the grain and keep going for what you want or fold you hand, but there's no reason to cry about it on reddit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:41 AM
3

Yes, that's exactly what it shows. You're really good at non-linear pattern recognition, someone ever told you that?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 04:31 AM
-2

Learn acting, or just watch an actor in a movie - they emulate whatever you're seeing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 01:09 AM
0

TRP won’t solve your problems, it’ll help with one of them and give you 5 new ones
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 01:38 AM
1

Does Jake have a representative Tinder profile? Does Jake go to bars/clubs/work-parties? Is Jake autistic? Is Jake really handsome or actually meh?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 11:24 PM
2

I don't know the situation in Slovenia specifically, but in some places in eastern-Europe, indeed people seem to go to the club to get a table and hang out with their group - it's not like that everywhere but I've seen it happen enough to acknowledge that's just the way it is in some places. You could try and initiate convo with a girl who's in a group but that's be hit or miss - she's with her friends, guys and girls, so it'll be a hard approach. So yeah when people say that they mean 'regular'…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 01:20 AM
1

You, You, yours, your - see? You had your choice, other women make other choices
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:53 AM
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Answer: Who gives a fuck? If the girl is attracted and is seeing you, and you have enough attention to keep it up - do you really need internet losers to back up your moral claim to having consensual relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/24 02:51 AM
0

No one said it’s about bacteria, but at least now I know you’re not purposefully doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:25 PM
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Are you being purposely dense? <image> Never mind their arbitrary hypothesis - fact remains hotter women get more oral sex done on them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 03:14 PM
1

Many such cases
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 04:10 AM
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Means you’re hot. Seriously, just read a study about it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/24 01:23 AM
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I suppose you meant endearing, cuz I think most personality traits endure. I don't think women in general are aspiring the same that I don't think that about men. I do like the average woman MUCH more than I like the average man. The interesting part is when you don't talk about the average, but specifically about ones I like/liked: I like that they're beautiful, I love it when they're beautiful and still manage to be funny and outgoing and not stuck-up. tbh I recently realized I can borderline …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 03:04 AM
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Until you wake up and realize you've been divorced for the past 5 years and she's not there, you gotta move on man. Oh sorry, that's me go on as you were
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/24 02:48 AM
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What if someone just doesn’t care what his girlfriend does on 1 night every 2 years? Maybe sometimes he has his fun himself? A lot of men are very afraid of cheating, but not all are if context is right. I historically would agree, but nowadays I might not care that much, very context dependent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 06:08 PM
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I actually think there comes an age where if you’re a virgin you better off getting some physical experience but w/e.. Don’t make a habit out of it though, unless you wanna be that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/24 09:54 AM
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unBEARable?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/24 04:08 AM
1

Whatever the consensus is.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:27 AM
1

They have to fit into the standard of beauty, attractive europeans fit nicely
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 08:11 PM
1

There are non-europeans attractive people.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:48 PM
1

I was with the same girl for 9 years. Longest we didn't have sex was 2 weeks, then we broke up. Sex wasn't obligative for neither of us, although most of it was started by her. I'd say objectively she's better looking than me, at least back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 05:16 AM
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"Most people where I live have a type of the conventional Eurocentric beauty standards" Yeah, it's called being attractive, not a type
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/24 04:50 AM
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She sounds wrecked, why does chad date such a wreck? Hint: he’s not chad, they’re just co-dependent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 06:03 AM
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Why would women be altruistic.. Are you? Also, why do you wear blue pill when you're.. not. Yes, when women give up on men's looks they expect to get more of x other traits.. otherwise why even make the tradeoff? just go out with the fuckboy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:57 AM
-2

You mean the biggest OLD site at the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:55 AM
2

Or, the changes aren't that big - and old people just think of themselves as more conservatives than what they were
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/24 02:53 AM
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RP content is for lonely men who want to cope. Maybe it was ok until 2011, back then it was just a side-theory to PUA, people who actually try and meet girls. Redpillers nowadays mostly seem content whining online about women and Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 07:28 AM

Haha someone should frame this and save for every AF/BB thread in existence. Not that you're not right in your opinion - just that in reverse people knee-jerk object so much that it's funny
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 05:00 AM

It's because they like being dominated in bed. Choking (lightly) is nothing.. never met a girl who said anything about not doing it. Rimming is what surprised me tbh, I think it's like 50-50 thus far
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/24 03:10 AM
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That’s your prerogative
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 11:19 AM
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Neither do pity fuckers
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 10:53 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 05:27 AM
2

I think mandating it would just auto-solve problems (it's mandated, nothing to be offended about). For particular cases - if someone's suspicious I'd just take the test without telling her.. no harm done. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:42 AM
2

Umm no, that's negative attention - make money and pay a hooker - better.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:37 AM
2

What is the purpose of it all? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/24 04:36 AM
1

You're not talking about yourself but you're willing to compare whiners to slaves? You're the one who started the privilege talk to make your point, not me. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:53 AM
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You're whining on the internet, in a developed country, comparing your non-to-mild-attractiveness to slavery - and I'm talking from privilege. This post is epic
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 03:29 AM
1

No, it's just the consensus among people who have wishes about uncontrollable market forces
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:51 AM
1

I'd change people whining - on both sides If only the complaining stopped I'd be so happy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 02:49 AM

Before you scream, "debunked pseudoscience" I know of a case where telegony has been proven beyond shadow of doubt with the man and wife both being loyal to each other, going through lie detectors, wife checking if she had been drugged/violated, etc. the end result... I'll answer the question if you cut that bullshit out, I suggest others join in my protest
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:25 AM
0

You make him sound kinda ghey
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:20 AM
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My question is ultimately do you only (or at least mainly) seek relationships with women because it’s the only way you can access regular sex? No. …would you commit to a relationship with a woman? Not in the near-future (I didn't plan on committing soon even before that +)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 01:19 AM

You failed breaking it down into rules, and thus it is innate. Impenetrable logic right there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 12:14 PM

Oh my god, 2024 RP is so much worse than 2011 RP... and 2011 was bad in and of itself.. RSD headlines "YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS A RAGING SLUT, CLICK HERE TO FIND OUT WHY!" Too bad men are still clueless even though so many good content has been put out over the years... For one - Mark Manson's Models is a very good book - He goes on too much about vulnerability but the gist is right and his focus on taking action and opposing fear is like no other I've seen. Then for evo-psych and data I'd follow date…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/24 01:26 AM
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Consent education is stupid at it's core. People who're gonna rape are gonna rape, regardless of whatever stupid shit you teach them. They don't rape cuz they don't know about consent, they rape cuz they don't care. For the people who actually care about what society wants to tell them - affirmative consent just takes passionate and well-rounded interactions and tries to makes them into a linear interface prompt - in other words it makes the interaction weird and autistic. Men shouldn't be taugh…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 12:01 PM
1

“Everything is vague to a degree you do not realize till you have tried to make it precise.” ~Bertrand Russell You thought you had an idea for a post, then you started writing and you must have seen that you actually didn’t.. must have
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/24 10:22 AM
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No, I see her hypogamy as a bad thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 09:40 PM
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Au contraire - once I see unattractive men in her past I go “ugh, why would she pick him? Why don’t attractive guys want her?”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:18 AM
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Every time you're one person thinking 50%+ of the population "should" do/don't x - stop and think why you're thinking in a way that can only mean you're wrong and self-defeating. No one is going to change for you, now decide how you're gonna act given that they're not going to make it more obvious for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 01:46 AM
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Maybe she's just not THAT into you? I mean definitely not most girls like me - but the ones who do seem to like me a lot.. they're not finding reasons to flake
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:01 AM
0

Keyword AND And for 1st look attraction. Also, thanks for back tip
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 03:05 PM
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It depends on what class - I learned CS so naturally most girls aren't that great. On Tinder and under 26 - more than 50% are attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:32 AM
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Probably one of the best replies I've seen lately, actually it's back-to-back for 2 days in a row - is reddit somehow better this week? and the “hot” part usually requires looks + style. Same dude with bad hair and bad clothes would not catch my attention. That's what did it for me - people forget that being hot involves both being hot AND showing it well through your style and grooming
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/24 12:30 AM

What is there to discuss? People who tend to be low birth rate will gradually get weeded out by people who have a high birth rate (all else equals). There’s no bluff and no calling it, just anomalies and corrections - over a long time span this 30 years change means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 11:49 AM
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You're kinda selecting for the women who want you and you want them.. But yeah most women 30+ would want a relationship, at least around here.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:52 AM
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Frankly I don't buy these articles pumped out by conservative affiliated organizations saying that "oh women at age 35 are struggling to find a man" when either I don't know about young women - maybe they can afford themselves thinking they don't want children until later on when it's last chance - maybe some of them even stick to their decision. What I do know - is that I've seen enough 28+ women struggle to get in fulfilling relationships. Yes, they can get a hot guy to fuck easily - they're b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:49 AM

It's not men who hate on women, it's people high in dark-triad and low on IQ hating on everyone else. Women do it, men do it, welcome to dem internetz
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 02:37 AM
1

Well I'd say he's liked by enough that it shows, I wouldn't attribute volume as a main cause here - but it might be why he's highly trained in being social.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 10:56 PM
1

So I'm whining about their whining? that's interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:36 PM
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I'm almost 5'11 and I don't really think I could just stumble on girls and have them like me, charisma still matter quite a bit - also I don't even consider myself tall, just not short - pretty sure I'm around average height in a club (where usually taller men seem to hang)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:35 PM
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I don't know actually, one of them doesn't even look good.. But they are extroverted that's for sure, guy is a hairdresser.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 09:33 PM
1

Usually I see whining - there's no way the same guys who lift and get semi-famous youtubers to fuck them go on to whine about women only caring about chad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:47 PM
1

How short? I mean I know 5'7 guys who're pretty successful
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:46 PM
1

So... you're aiming for fat?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:44 PM
1

Wait - so you're saying there's no reason you can decipher - i.e it's not looks and it's not behavior, and it's just plain random? I mean you could just look up any study - people who look better get higher quality and more dates, extraversion (i.e behavior) is like the best predictor of number of sexual partners. I mean yeah - you may call it 'lucky' to be good looking and an extrovert - but it's not that you can't tell who's fucking and who's not just by looking at people.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 04:43 PM
1

Yeah it does sound like you're very handsome (unless you're very much lowering your standards for these matches/lays, then you're just handsome lol) Would you say sex is usually on first meet with those girls? Are you in college? Also how the fuck do you keep up with so many girls, just hanging with 2 is maximizing my ability to answer texts.. Oh also - do you not keep some of them? it sounds like you're just putting a notch and move on..?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:52 PM
0

Why do you think you had success? Facial looks? body? behavior? An occupation that contributes to meeting women? I don't think fat women can really get away with it - they tell themselves a nice story and cry themselves to sleep when the latest semi-good-looking guy pumps and dumps
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:46 PM
2

It's kinda funny - cuz for me it seems A LOT of women who're looking for something serious would consider me a good candidate (and EVERY woman I hook up with does), but just hooking-up seems to be something that's harder to do explicitly - very possible and does happen, but it seems opposite to the interest of the girls who tend to like me (also I'm 35y/o so probably that contributes to the type of girls I'm seeing)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:41 PM
1

Why no need to discuss? It seems here people think it comes so easily to women, yet when I see them talk about it, it shows how much mental and physical and fiscal effort goes into every detail which I wouldn't even see.. I of course agree with your conclusion about it, but there's a discussion to be had as others seem to disagree..?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:16 PM
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I'd actually say most women do think this way, they just don't disclose it as much - they feel it with their anxiousness if not logically with their thought (or they're just naturally beautiful, in which case they can afford to be oblivious). Why do you think you have no success? I mean you are an athlete, so I guess body is not the issue
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:13 PM
3

Haha nothing good is gonna come out of my mouth about the majority of men either
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:10 PM
1

How old are you? like 32? What do you mean two live-in girlfriends? at the same time? Is it an open relationship thing, or only you're allowed to hunt outside? or am I just misreading what you wrote? Also - you say you could do better - what's better than having easy sexual access to amateur models and semi-famous women? you aiming for A-list actresses? I think there are better looking women just outside anyway..? Last but not least - Would you say you're tall, wealthy and facially good-looking?…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:08 PM
1

3 - I've seen women's before after - they're very results oriented - they go from someone I'd reject to someone I'd be intimidated by
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:05 PM
5

You practice it just like any other skill. Your brain learns the patterns and the right responses. It's easiest to see with sales people - they don't go on their first sales job being good at sales - they get better at it, they get better at convincing people. They're not faking it, they're forming new habits which will be ingrained in their personality down the line. I don't do sales but wish I had, would definitely make me improve faster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 01:02 PM
1

I'll answer more later but regarding 3 - the women I described definitely lose weight and hit the gym - and in my gym definitely there are a lot of good looking women (but yeah lifting is mainly men - the women usually go to studio classes, but some are real gym rats)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/24 12:58 PM
1

Meh, might prevent some kinds of cheating in some instances.. wouldn't say it's a good strategy. Some people tend to cheat, some less so - if he's planning on cheating it's gonna happen
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:59 PM
-2

Hint: Male gaze is BS. Get a super-attractive guy who's socially-apt, have him sensually have sex with a beautiful next-door type girl - and you have "female gaze" porn. About same thing, standards are higher (as they should be). Also - look-up what women search on pornhub, it's usually pretty rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 04:07 PM
11

That's... what I'm saying.. I just don't get why he does that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:09 AM
28

Makes you wonder though, why does he LARP "I'm an attractive guy" - I really want to believe that, then you just dig around his profile and kill that off... I'm 35y/o but I still have hope that people don't randomly lie on the internets, rookie mistake
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:02 AM
6

Oof
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/24 01:00 AM
1

its literally more mature to have long term partnerships with people than to use them for short term pleasure. "Use them" tells me you're a-prior liking long-term and not short-term. That's fine that you like that, it doesn't make short-term inferior to long-term. Short-term relationship means the 'couple' are fine having sex and having fun (i.e watching tv together, drinking, going out) but plan on keeping it casual rather than having plans to stick together. Why? a thousand reasons - to each t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 09:40 PM
1

It's valid that she wants a long-term serious relationship, it's invalid to equate it with maturity - it's just her want and perceived notions of a lot of people. If anything, it's immature to unrealize her wants are not a measure of maturity (re: childish narcissism), but I'm not one to call people immature
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 08:16 PM
1

Guy: "I'm mainly about casual relationships at the moment, not really looking for something serious". Girl: "You're 35, grow up"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/24 07:20 PM
1

There are overly narcissistic people who are stupid. The fact that children tend to be more narcissistic has little to do with that imo. The signal-to-noise of someone saying “grow-up” is around 0 - it usually just means someone doesn’t like how you’re behaving
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/24 02:52 AM
7

It's not a women issue, it's a term issue. It's very simple: When someone tells you you need to be more mature, it means you should be doing more of what they want and less of what you want. What they want is mature, what you want is childish. ime that's the whole thing behind "you're being immature", never seen it being said about someone just being childish (i.e not understanding personal boundaries)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/24 02:11 AM
1

I mean seriously, at that point who cares? I’m 35 and I’ll be very lucky to get the kind of attention I want at 40.. at 50 I hope I’ll be teaching my kid chess or something
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 06:38 PM
2

It never was. Or rather, it always is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:41 PM
1

They already avoided unless they decided it's the best they could get - as they should
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/24 05:40 PM
1

Even better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 05:47 PM
3

Makeup can be worn on the street too, fair game. Filters are stupid - once you go offline it's over - catfishing. I don't know what shapewear means, but if she wears it for the date I don't see the issue. Why is nosejob different? cuz you can't take it off in 5 minutes?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/24 02:18 AM
3

You mean sex every other week with a new girl or you have a fwb? You're at the bar every single day? Do you have sex on same night or date her and she becomes fwb? We need details dude, stats!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:50 PM
1

A lot can, not every, most maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/24 10:48 PM
2

The only constant is you: For some reason all the women you know are ultra d-loaded. Most women I dated seem pretty nice overall. Do you just sit there and imagine scenarios or do you a acrually know these women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 12:40 PM
23

Who cares what they are "for"? Women know that being prettier is more attractive to partners, and most feel better when they look better. There are whole subs devoted to general and specific grooming and plastic surgery treatment for women-only. No one seriously takes the "objecting" to grooming standards seriously. You wanna object to men's beauty standards? go ahead and be ugly and fat, no one cares. Wanna be attractive? go to the fucking gym and take care of your hair and cloth. Too many peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 10:54 AM
1

Oh I usually meet them at Tinder or when going out, I never converted a female friend to fwb (never tried either) It’s dating a bit -> sex -> fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/24 01:11 AM
3

The only logical conclusion is that men are largely responding naturally with frustration at the insane level of delusion, unrealistic standards and inflated egos of modern women. "The only logical conclusion" Yes, you finally solved the age-long riddle
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 10:31 PM
1

"the main cause of this is due to men’s manipulation habits when seeking sex." You're the one making claims, I just have at least 2 examples where that's not the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 09:00 PM
3

Oh - that’s actually clever. Something in there definitely
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:01 PM
-1

It’s a nice idea, But it’s not the case. I only do casual and never hide it, usually they catch feelings. Same with a friend of mine, who’s even kinda assholish in addition. But tbh I catch feelings too, I just don’t feel the need to act on them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 02:00 PM
-3

Yes. You need to be realistic about where you are on the ladder of attractiveness. If you don't know where you are, approach 50 women, you'll get a sense. Then you start making fixes - what went wrong? did it blow up as soon as you introduced yourself every time? maybe work on your looks and presentation. Did the conversation just fizzle out? work on making sexual advances (i.e touching lightly, putting arm around her/ on her leg, kissing). etc etc. You can't be porcelain in this game. And yeah …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 05:19 AM
1

You date normally, you stay casual without grand romantic gestures (better to have no 1-hour phone calls early on unless you already stated intentions), and if asked you say you're not really looking for a relationship but think she's cute and fun - no need to bring it up if not asked. And as for any guy-girl interaction - escalate sexually. Most girls can figure out from my behavior and stories that I'm not in a relationship phase. Some girls need to be reminded even if you already talked about…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/24 04:51 AM
1

While I agree with inflation of some women’s self worth - I don’t really think decent looking guys who are somewhat brave (read: able to interact with strangers without anxiety) have issues getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 11:23 PM
0

Some girls call me a "douche", my friends say I'm the kindest fwb they've ever seen. I think asshole is just a term for a guy who's attractive but doesn't want commitment. Yeah, being honest about it will get you called asshole less often than a guy who just pumps and dumps while promising lies, but you'll get called an asshole as long as you have success with women while not committing. It's usually the less attractive/confident girls who are prone to say that tbh, and usually said with some gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/24 08:36 PM
1

Yoy didn’t notice shit, when did you last leave your house be real
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/24 04:21 AM
1

Hmm, nice win with husband! Also - what's a 7 to you? is that high?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:28 PM
1

Haha, thank you for being honest !
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:27 PM
2

That is certainly an option, Ms. Barb
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:20 PM
1

What does non-sexual relationship mean? Like, you kissed but never had sex or..?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:19 PM
1

lol it's not weird that you went shopping with him, it's weird that he'd want/agree to it. lol mouth hug - didn't know that was a thing. Poor Jason haha, don't let your husband see it was the best kiss though ! 😂 tbh I don't think you're a 5 though - too much people wanting and preferring you for that, give yourself some slack ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:16 PM
2

Isn't it hard to "trade-down" from the 8/10 guy? Also - what's a UMC?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:07 PM
1

Haha I mean in your original reply - you said the other guys were like 7-8s, then you said your husband was formerly 7, so I thought he was less attractive than the others - mentioning he was a stripper/womanizer and how happy you are about him would prevent my misunderstanding :)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 11:04 PM
1

lol you could have mentioned "fuckboy and stripper" in your reply - initially I was like "well those other guys were 8s and all the other girls wanted them, guess she had to settle looks a notch with husband" All good though - got it !
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:57 PM
2

I mean, we did kiss, that's it. Haha hookup(no sex) - I thought that means at least bj tbh, so it's good that you mentioned it. I guess Jason was more than kiss..? How come you didn't btw - having him being that handsome etc.. That free meal guy.. so weird to me tbh, especially the shopping part. How many like that were there? Thanks for answering btw!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:52 PM
1

I'm surprised this hasn't been asked (or asked more if it has), so many shitty debates about nothing, where women could just say "ok dude my ex is a 5 just stfu". Of course some guy would go "your 5 is chad", which is just dumb (but would be believable with a 7 without proper calibration)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:47 PM
2

That's actually great ! What do you mean never had sex? with bfs too? How old are you? (and if above 18 - why not?)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:44 PM
0

Huh, very interesting, especially the part where you're surprised you weren't attracted haha Thanks !
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:41 PM
2

It's just the intro.. Also, a lot of men genuinely feel like that, and I've had times where my mindset was adjacent to that (i.e thinking looks for a guy must be spot-on for a girl to be attracted fast). Nowadays I'm still looks-oriented, but I accept that the standard is lower than what I previously assumed for most girls
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:15 PM
7

Haha it's funny that you even answer seriously to that kind of bs EDIT: Also, empirically on average sexually successful men are LESS misogynistic, whereas least successful are more - it's pretty obvious you'd be nicer to people who you expect to think you're hot tbh - so he's wrong even in the general sense
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:11 PM
1

No problem with no /10 - your descriptions are good ! Why did you think he wasn't your type? You weren't attracted at first?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:10 PM
1

As I said, it's ok if one or more of the categories aren't relevant to you, can still participate
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 06:09 PM
2

“Alpha” is kind of a stupid word, so I’ll just refer to “sexually successful”. Like women - if you fail to get off the fun wagon on time you’re gonna have some less than ideal times. Unless he just doesn’t want a serious partner ever, in which case it’s w/e. But obviously a 50y/o is gonna have less fun dating than 28y/o by a large margin, even if quantity wise he can get more
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 02:03 PM
2

Massive generalizations ahead, These are averages so definitely exact ages and behaviors will vary: They don’t hit a wall, they climb a hill. Around 28-29 marriage-pressure is building up and on average they seem to try-hard at getting serious relationships going (they know biologically and socially time is of the essence). By 31-32 they’re kinda disillusioned so they’re less stressed but also less innocent about it - which is smarter but less cute. They’re still able to attract hot guys, but a …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/24 01:49 PM
1

I bet you sleep really good at night
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 03:32 AM
1

A man is wearing a hoodie and trying to hide Wa?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/24 12:03 AM
8

Spoiler alert: no one ever feels complete for more than a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/24 08:14 PM
1

I like the old PUA gftow. If you want a more theoretical approach - Realize your feelings mean shit, just brain chemistry that’ll get eaten by worms soon enough and end this little tea party.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 05:02 AM
2

Not a lot of sex (even if lower drive is from him, people here would call ‘cope’), you said more friend vibe than romantic chemistry which hints at lack of sexual attraction to him. Thanks for answering though! My guess was he’s at the lower end of your exes, seems I was wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 04:52 AM
1

Sounds like he'd be classified "beta bux" around here, without realizing he's basically choosing this path. Would you say he was less physically attractive than other boyfriends you've had?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:37 AM
2

A virgin with more experience than the guy..
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/24 03:34 AM
1

Oh I was just giving it as an example for an approximation of a seemingly-exponential natural system that is capped (and thus doesn't go to infinity)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 04:43 AM
1

Logistic functions behave exponentially with saturation limits on both ends (sigmoids)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/24 01:34 AM
2

Trying to take a human phenomena and squashing it into a linear one-variable issue pretty much never explains a lot of variance. Yes, some women hookup with men they can’t otherwise get some of the time. Other times it’s a man she would be able to get had he even wanted a relationship with anyone. In other times still the woman just wants to have a hoe phase and couldn’t care less about relationships for the time being. Etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:38 AM
1

He was wrong and now shifting the goal post to protect the bluepill, never seen it happen on the wild tbh, only heard of the phenomena until now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/24 12:35 AM
2

"Whenever I want" can range from within 24 hours to within 3 weeks - it really depends on what kind of girls I stumble upon. The quality of girl can range as well. I did makeout with some stacies at clubs (was even married to one), but on Tinder most of my matches aren't that interesting, barely becky-worthy probably. So yeah, compare that to a guy who can basically go on Tinder and consistently find a decent hook-up same-night or next-night - I'm no where near that, which is what I would call c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 11:58 AM
2

Girls play around with me, I’m not chad. I think the issue is people think the bar is way higher than it is due to Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:08 AM
1

…This was pretty much accepted science until recently (the evo psych version, not TRP cartoon). TRP exaggerated and was being annoyong about it, but the concept was valid to an extent.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:07 AM
1

I have a friend who always had sex with taken women - sometimes the girls went on to marry to live with the cucked guy for years after their act
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 02:03 AM
3

Read The selfish gene or the red queen, you’re missing the point widely
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:59 AM
1

I don’t see why when TRP said it it was rationalizing, but evo psychs just do science.. Sure, TRP took it too far, and a lot of idiots took it even further. Now that the evidence has shown weak, now either they change their opinion with evidence or they rationalize “sell out”. Tbh those ideas did fit pretty well (the evopsych ones, not their TRP cartoon version), makes you wonder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:55 AM
1

Ummm no..?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 01:02 AM
3

So good to hear you're so mature and unjudgmental of people's life choices. Also you're probably at an age where you can generalize from "girl dates 10year older" to "daddy issues, trauma, immature, dumb" - that would take me a lot of processing power to even theorize at my advanced age
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/24 12:22 AM
3

This is such utter bs tbh.. PUAs who look fine and have tons of experience say 10% number close is great, and this person comes here and says 90% no problem. Whatever. Their standards aren’t low, and as long as they can get the men they want they’re right in applying those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 05:03 PM
2

I actually find your answers reward worthy (though I don't pay reddit, fuck that), cheers
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/24 02:23 AM
1

You’re well within your rights
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:48 PM
0

It's not about being "afraid of commitment", it's about her being stressed about it - girls who are used to being wanted tend to not stress about "seriousness"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:20 PM
1

No it's in quotes - putting it in the bio is a red flag, is what I meant. I'll add an edit to emphasize
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 03:10 PM
3

Men who're unsuccessful on the casual sex market supporting discouraging casual sex, on average. It's well replicated in the literature. Since most men are unsuccessful at that, "men" on average today support policies to discourage it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:52 AM
2

No, wanting it is perfectly fine and expected (even preferred in some situations). being impatient about it and putting it all over your profile is, ime. See the linked comment. It's as unattractive as a guy putting "looking for non-string-attached" on his profile
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/24 10:48 AM
-4

It'd put me off regardless of what I'm looking for. See this comment: https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1besbyf/comment/kuvskco/ Also: I’m in my first ever relationship, navigating a fear of intimacy While it's totally fine to work on your issues, I'd like to avoid LTRs with people navigating relationship issues - "looking for a serious relationship" is a red flag in my book, always has been EDIT: Of course, putting it in the bio and being impatient about it is the red flag - not…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:59 PM
2

Pin that comment plz k thx
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 10:50 PM
1

Oh, I thought you meant most men don't care and just approach. Also: That's just people you know. I think the bias happens because the guys women tend to interact with... tend to approach. You can't just throw my concept back at me !
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 09:10 PM
3

Actually vast majority of girls I've been with have been from apps - but that's because I'm a WFH loner with 0.5 social circle. Oh wait, I get it now: Average + loner = incel They think it's only their looks cuz they don't care about their social circle, but actually had they need been loners probably they'd have at least SOME action TBH I'd hate to try and socialize JUST to have girls, but in reality I go to the gym and take of myself pretty high-maintenance pretty much to have girls - so what'…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:32 PM
1

While I agree with your reply overall, I hardly disagree here: Most people simply don't care. Most people I know definitely care and end up not approaching - it's still their issue. I think the bias happens because the guys women tend to interact with... tend to approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/24 07:20 PM
2

Threat as in more desirable/attractive. Yeah that's what I figured
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 04:36 PM
3

Threat as in more attractive, or physical threat? And yeah I probably do that (though the target demographic is pretty much "good-looking 19-35")
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:47 PM
3

Meh, not all, but in relevant situations yea, it's automatic for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:46 PM
0

Looks - I think you can more often than not tell "this guys fucks" or doesn't when you see someone
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/24 01:07 PM
3

Normal but a bit uncalibrated western bantering, don't take it to heart
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 07:27 PM
24

This is such BS.. So I was boring, and then I installed Tinder and a week later I wasn't boring anymore? There are tons of reasons why people would be single, boring probably being a tiny fraction of
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 12:04 PM
1

Armchair sociology. Well actually all sociology is armchair. That's why it's BS, and so is this post - wtf is this? I'm sure you had an ok point in your head - but you did a number on it by expanding and writing about toxic in high value guys. The point is easy - Beta guys make up for their low-mid-value by being extra nice and accommodating - that's not modern, that's your ordinary beta. I can't believe you even made me use that word, gotta wash my hands now
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/24 02:54 AM
4

I’ll keep saying it until someone high enough in the cuckosphere hears - it’s a hill, not a wall, and for a lot of women it’s not very steep either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/24 01:44 AM
5

You know it. They're talking about MGTOW, you're talking about not being needy and doing your own thing while still pursuing relationships. You are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:28 PM
0

They see women as a fix it for their own issues within themselves and see what we could do for them at a given moment. You were right on the first part - getting women (plural) is at least partially a status thing. It's a self-worth thing because it's a status thing. So it's not a thing for issues within themselves, it's (partially) a status thing. Men evolved to want to spread their seed, and those who can are usually seen by other men as high-status and therefore have access to better resource…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:26 PM
8

You're using the same words, you're not talking about the same thing, and no one bothers to point it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:21 PM
8

I’d rather be single for years than go through that emotionally draining experience of woman after woman not working out. Not working out how? not all women find me attractive, but the ones who do tend to want to stick around. IMO, this is recipe for disaster. Stop caring about being desirable to all or most women. It's disaster only when taken to extreme. When taken at face value - it's just better to put yourself at an advantage to get more of a choice in the market, and to get better "leverag…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 06:16 PM
2

I was sure you were gonna say "it's like woodstock - just a bunch of hippies doing something off-beat the rest of society didn't care about", and then you went on to say how awesome it was. Dude, sure, if you're average and feel like you have arbitrage opportunity over-seas go for it, but seriously most people can't be arsed to move abroad just to get with south asian chicks. If you want something similar to woodstock, imo it's wokeness - a bunch of people doing something off-beat, raising a hug…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 03:16 PM
0

It's a good question. People get lost in analyzing 'logically', and people not used to that think "where's the emotion though? that's bs". Ideally the analysis should reveal what's under the emotion. Obviously I feel "she's hot", if she's cute I feel "oh she's so cute", if she's consistently hot and cute I get attached and somewhat fall in love. But when analyzing it we concentrate on "why she's not" - well she's hot cuz she looks young, has a good face, not fat and good tits/ass - i.e high SMV.…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/24 02:47 PM
2

Hence they have higher standards for casual from the getgo (which allows them even higher standards from simple supply and demand) - I'm not ignoring it, it's the premise of the whole thing. Women either settle on the guy for relationships (about same as men do), or they settle on the type of relationship for a really attractive guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:19 AM
1

Hence the "also" and "as you said" :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:18 AM
1

Nah she's fine, also he's a football player - I imagine he gets his don't worry. And the fact I imagine that, and I can only imagine Mark paying hookers, is enough
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/24 12:17 AM
1

Also he doesn't need to be hideous, it's enough to be only somewhat attractive - plenty of better alternatives around, especially if he shoots over his league and as you said - acts and comes across lame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:51 PM
-1

It's not society, it's evolution. A guy with a below-average woman was never considered high-value. Not in our society and not anywhere. Just look at Mark Zuckerberg
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:48 PM
2

Also, men do it out of necessity (otherwise 0 sex) - women can mostly get sex regardless and only need to meaningfully lower standards for relationships (in a similar way guys would)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:45 PM
2

Standards for relationships didn't* meaningfully go up, standards for casual sex were always high and probably went up cuz Tinder adds efficiency (women would just fuck whoever was hottest around them in their social circle or local club/bar, now they can scroll through the hottest guys in 10miles radius). *at least not since vast majority of women are allowed to work
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 10:41 PM
13

EDIT: reddit ruined the ability to make paragraphs, wtf is this shit People tell themselves all kind of stories. I don't really care for the stories, as they differ from person to person. "She didn't respect herself, why should I?" "She gave them her body for free, why should I pay for it?" "Why buy the cow if she gave the milk for free?" I mean, I can definitely sympathize with the feeling of wanting the girl to be at least as attracted to me as she was to past partners, so if she waits 3 dates…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 06:37 PM
1

"There's no sense in being precise when you don't even know what you're talking about." ~John von Neumann No one means any specific single thing when they say either of these, this whole discussion of which is better is moot. More to the point - "being yourself" is the most idiotic advice that could ever be given, and it's confusing and unpractical, as if you can somehow not be yourself. You can do things you're not used to doing, and it'll be awkward - and people call that "not being yourself".…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 12:14 PM
1

I've went for only casual for the last 5 years. I never considered any girl a "notch", I have fun with them inside and outside of the bedroom and I'm generally glad to meet them. The only girls I didn't want to keep meeting after first encounter were either unattractive or unattractive&annoying (that has only happened like 3-4 times). I didn't even know I'll feel that way prior to cumming. When I say unattractive I mean "drunkenly fuckable, but would never date" EDIT: To make it clear - I don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/24 11:29 AM
1

Well, as someone who's willing to go to great lengths to appeal to women, as I said, I uber Simp. Is the fact I enjoy appealing to women detracting from my simping?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:27 AM
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So.. doing something specifically to appeal to the other sex? I workout to look good. Looking good makes me feel good yeah, but if looking good wouldn't have girls mixed in - I probably wouldn't gather the discipline for it. Not doing leg day just looks weird, and you do need your legs to support your new upper strength and weight, + training quads helps releasing the right hormones for growth (or so I'm told). If the trendy way doesn't suit you, it doesn't attract, and is therefore futile - if …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 03:02 AM
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I started by saying I don't know what "build alpha male image" means. I allowed myself to assume that any behavior that you consider not 'yourself' or 'inauthentic' is thus simping. I'm willing to be corrected, but you have to be more explicit
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:49 AM
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i’m saying if you have to project that image because you want a woman’s attention, or you want women’s approval… you’re no different than a simp. Doing something to appeal to the others sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:37 AM
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Generally women have a more acute and more sensitive disgust response, This has been shown repeatedly. Is this what's going on here? not necessarily. Some women use the over-rejection thing to signal to their friends "omg I can't believe this guy even has the guts to talk to me", when they think that a guy "like him" shouldn't even think he's on her level. I think it's also the younger crowd who pull shit like that, can't remember last I've had that happen. Best to ignore, wish her a good night …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:26 AM
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I don't know what 'build alpha male image' means, but yeah you can say every time you do something to appeal to the other sex you're simping. Call me an uber simp then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 02:21 AM
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Of course you do, it's the greatest thing you'll ever learn
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/24 12:07 AM
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What do you mean by sleeping around? Most women want long-term relationships. But the road to get there involves dating, and dating involves sleeping with people. Are they sleeping around or shopping for a boyfriend? I'm 35 so probably heavily biased, but pretty much every woman I meet wants an LTR. What tends to happen, is we date, I signal that I'm not after LTR, we sleep together some, and either she breaks it off cuz I don't want an LTR, or she manages to keep looking for LTR while keeping m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 11:03 PM
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Meh, depends. Would be uncomfortable with it, that's for sure, but probably manageable if I can get trust and attraction issues under control about it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:31 PM
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Below average - get average, people want to feel attracted if they're gonna have sex. If you can't be average you can't enjoy the rides. Average - be very extroverted, fun, and looksmaxx - get your fitness and fashion right - that will also make you look above-average by default. Above all - be bold - go for what you want, if she rejects eject and move on. Go to places where people hook up - bars, clubs, festivals. - If you can't play the looks game apps will be tedious. Also - don't expect to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:28 PM
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Someone reward her plz k thx EDIT: seriously, probably the best simple post I've seen in this place
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 09:21 PM
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My first crush was in 6th grade, in reality the girl is your typical attention whore. My first 'love' with in 9th grade - we semi-kissed once but she stayed with her boyfriend. Then I "loved" another in age 19-20 - nothing happened between us. Then I had sex with a hot girl, and in 3 weeks we were 'in love'. This went on and off for 2 years, then on for another 6-7. It's been 5 years since we've divorced (been maried 1.5 yearas). Who was my first love here? Surely the most intense was the latter…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/24 12:37 AM

While intuition may lead there, I tend to disagree. It's horseshoe - the extremes are always either idiots, mentally-ill or in the more fun cases- both. I mean take on one of the most ubiquitous claims on the far-left: "Trans women ARE women, sex is a social construct" - gotta really deny some clear biology for that. Also: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40806-022-00336-x "Independent sample t tests revealed no political orientation differences between incel (M = 2.94, SD = 1.44) and …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:32 PM
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Rare, new and preposterous. No one likes anyone for 'who they are' - they like them for whatever value they provide. More accurately they like them for the value they perceive they'll be able to get in the future. Don't be discouraged by the word 'value' - fun is valuable, good feelings are valuable, kin is valuable. But if you're not gonna provide those, or at least appear to be - better hit the road. Also - you're doing the same, you're just being hypocritical about it cuz you want to be a spe…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 02:21 PM

Saying they’re the same archetype is like saying thin women with nice boobs and ass are the se archetype. Sure, they need to be attractive, but the tattooed party scene guy is not the same archetype as the young successful lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 10:51 AM

There are different types of chads for different types of women. Women like different things, not all things. Some girls think i’m a 6, some girls think I’m 8.5 - they’re not gonna act the same when I approach them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 09:58 AM

Have a good career, have lots of friends, be popular in multiple social circles. It's not my niche, as I advocate for being sexually attractive - but if you're not that appealing sexually, you do the above, then you take multiple shots and some will stick.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 03:42 AM
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I consider a half-wit as a total fool, as in half the wit of normal. A midwit is someone of average or a tad above average intelligence who thinks he’s very intelligent. Halfwits rub crystals and manifest reality, While midwits go on PPD and say dating is doomed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 01:29 AM
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There is a conspiracy theory called the Dead Internet Theory. The main plot is vast majority of the content online is made by bots and not humans. Today it is believable, but it took off in 2016. Why am I telling you this? I've come up with a new theory - the Braindead Internet Theory. And this is probably real - plot is - vast majority of content online is made by humans who are midwits and terminally online, and thus indistinguishable from bots and has very little relevance to actual reality. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:19 AM

I mean I'm sure some women don't really care if you're doing it for 'sports' - i.e not pursuing another relationships but just fuck someone else on occasion. For most this wouldn't suffice, but some would just see it as 'boys being boys' and not thinking anything of it. Obviously lying about it would undermine trust and thus bad
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/24 12:02 AM
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I think there's a problem of putting every 'manosphere' as RP. Originally RP was just "girls like alphas, be alpha" (whatever alpha means is not the issue - point is it was a 'truth'+'how-to' thing). Now it's like a weird mixture of TradRP, where people want to be both RP and trad - so they 'know' girls are sluts, while also being appalled by it. It's just armchair "the world is burning" bullshit of people who do nothing but whine about it not being the 50s anymore. Anyway, I saw that video, if …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 08:45 PM
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Lately I’ve come to terms, that most people employ deliberate ambiguity, and they do it rightfully. Women say they don’t like casual, or looking for a relationship, but sometimes go to have a fun night with some hot guy or have a cool fwb in times of need. Men say they’re open to anything, but sometimes they just wanna fuck without messing their chances. You don’t outright lie (as in the woman doesn’t say “I never do casual” and the man doesn’t say he’s “looking for something serious”), but you …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/24 04:12 PM
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I never miss a chance for that, it’s DHV - basics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 07:29 PM
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Yeah funny thing is I had to convince her I was a virgin, my outwardly cocky attitude tended to make my peers think I was hiding girls behind my sleeve. I think if I didn't know her in advance and thus cared about being honest to her, I'd never mention being a virgin tbh, no reason to enter damage zone - especially in later ages
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:38 PM
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That's... nice to hear actually As my thought tends to go that I should have ended it earlier to enjoy a more straightforward dating experience in my 20s, rather than having a mismatch of me looking for casual and girls my age looking for weddings. Also, younger girls are very hard to match when you're 35. But yeah I did love her and it did feel good at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:35 PM
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I don't know dude, no on else from my non-incel peers had sex at 21. Felt very shy/self-conscious towards girls prior to that. Also been with same girl until I was 30 (but yeah that part isn't so much of a problem as sex-wise we did experiment) - so at least casual-dating-wise I'm very late EDIT: to clarify, they didn’t have sex that late (21), i.e they did it earlier
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 06:33 PM
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What do you mean by late bloomer? I first had sex @ 21 and went on to be with the same girl for 9 years (doing only casual since) I consider myself a very late bloomer, but I probably have more relationship/sex experience/knowledge than most men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:07 PM
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While you'd be better off doing things early and often, starting late ain't that much of an issue. I first had sex @ 21, and I probably had dirtier and more fun experiences than most men who started early (and I even dated the same woman for ±9 years)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/02/24 05:03 PM
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Mom/sister - that's the "fucked-up" shit? I mean I never saw any of that cuz it's fucking boring, not cuz it's fucked up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 08:24 PM
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Have you ever seen a real life pure beta-buxx? Like, have you seen an actual woman say "Yeah he's too dorky for me and unattractive, but at least he can take care of money you know?" Sure, I acknowledge a lot of women go for "sexy" types who gets them hot for casual, and for more 'comfortable' types who're maybe less hot but more secure for long-term - but it's not a strict AF/BB thing, it's more like the slutty bpd party girl who's hard to get, you know you'd feel really good about fucking, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 05:20 PM
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Because "if she is like that she's not worth it" is the guy's parallel to "he's not worth it honey" - both are usually rejection copes, and not actual things people believe. All else equals you're better off being more attractive rather than less, happy to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:16 PM
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They dislike it when they don't like you back. Also, totally understandable - it's not comfortable to be rejecting someone, especially when you care about him otherwise and you know this interaction will have repercussions (for social circle and your relationship). I had such a thing with a girl in 9th grade, she had a boyfriend and was pretty cool about it. We ended up kissing but she stayed with her bf, admittedly I didn't behave in a very attractive way about it I imagine. if anything I was h…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 04:12 PM
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There is a kind of girl who's attracted by 'money throwing'. You go to the club, you take the table, you buy people drinks, you're dressed flashy. ​ Some girls are attracted to that, in a way it's "I got so much resources I can literally burn them". ​ Imo the looks/suave game is better and has more self-esteem baked into it (i.e I rather a girl be hot for my looks than for my money), but whatever works I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 01:42 AM
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Be confident, but don't expect it to work - sounds right.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/24 12:27 AM
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I think it's most often implicit, very rarely explicit - maybe more in fetish relationships where the explicitness is part of the scene or something. ​ The whole problem with whiners around here is that I don't know why they expect women to just "turn on lust" for them, as if they can suddenly be attracted to a fat hobo. "But I'm not a fat hobo!" - well you're still unattractive to them, or in the best case invisible. ​ So yeah you're reducing everything to transactions but there's no need for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/24 12:16 AM

If you're attractive enough, it's reciprocal liking. If you're not, you want what you can't have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:26 PM
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I think it's 2 different kinds of RP. is the guy wants to be the 'hot guy', and thus won't accept the girl choosing him as the safe option - having sex fast means she's physically and sexually attracted and thus he's the 'hot guy' - actually makes sense if you ask me, when not taken to extreme. is the tradRP - he thinks women should be near-virgins when he meets them and shouldn't have casual. He still wants to enjoy being 'hot' for the 'sluts', but if he finds 'the one', he wants her to be 'tra…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 06:24 PM
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It’s not acceptable for people to use “we” when they don’t represent any “we”. Pursue what age you want, if you can make the market work then congrats, wtf is this post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:32 PM

So.. you’re saying 7-7.5 is very attractive in men, and I tend to agree. That’s like top 10-15% I’d say so yeah, high SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/24 02:30 PM
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No, no one is loved for "who they actually are", that concept is made up by weird romanticists with too much free time and too low IQ, happy to help. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/24 07:50 PM
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Can't say I checkd
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 06:13 PM
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It's been studied that the incel community has a higher autism rate than general population. Also, they tend to be more risk-averse (less drinking, smoking, hitting on girls etc) ​ I don't think anyone that thinks he needs step-by-step instructions always means neurodivergent though, sometimes people really lack the experience and the know-how of learning things by, well, experience. ​ Combine that with being risk-averse and afraid of negative social interactions and rejections and you got yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/24 03:07 PM

I mean... at 8, at 10, take even 15 - yeah, some were 2-3 months and some were 2 years. At 80 she's just first-date pump and dump for many guys. If you have no issue with it then you don't, but lets not be naïve about it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:45 AM
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and a lot are still pretty content with their choices. As I said, while it's obvious my hypothetical girl would be hot for Ashton Kutcher, she's hot for me too, and (supposedly) loves me - I don't need her to "make me feel, like I'm the only girl in the world". But yeah - if someone goes like "you're not my type physically" or goes on about other cute guys, obviously I'm not staying even if she wants me to. I don't even stay fwb with a girl like that tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/24 02:40 AM
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An ex is an ex for a reason. It doesn't matter if they found him/her more attractive, their relationship did not work, they were not a good fit together I don't know if that's always the case. Sometimes the person is a great fit for you, but they don't feel the same way (or vice versa). Sure, you could call that "not a good fit", but the situation is they think they could do better, while you don't. ​ Mostly agree otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:16 PM
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Do drive the car you most want? Do you live in the best house you can imagine? Do you even live in the best city you think there is? ​ You do what you can, and most don't even feel the need to optimize very much, and a lot are still pretty content with their choices. ​ If by settling you mean actually marrying someone you feel isn't a good choice, then I guess that's more rare (but I'd guess more common for women than men unfortunately). If OTOH you mean, "not the best" - then yeah, everyone set…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 07:12 PM

What percentage of women do you swipe-right? I mean "good enough for sex" might be 50% for me, if I don't have to put in work
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:34 AM

Yes, but probably only once or twice. Most weren't worse though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 02:30 AM
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Yes. Question is, are passporting broing a form of arbitrage?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/24 01:16 AM
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People, but yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 11:18 PM
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Yes, cuz when they imagine smart, they imagine handsome too. They take handsome for granted, then other things are taken into account. ​ At the same time - what's your point with this? It's not that she doesn't want him to be smart, she just wants him to be handsome first. Do you see women at school go for the scrawny chess player or the fit football quarterback? I don't see what we're trying to achieve here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:58 PM
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I approve of this message, as it quotes my original and rigorous thought. Also I'm a sucker for confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:09 PM
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I think intelligence just comes with more self-awareness, and self-awareness of flaws at that, which create anxiety which turns people less extroverted, which is at the highest correlation to n-count out of big 5, winning over body and facial attractiveness at about 0.3 coefficient. Anyway, more intelligent people are more likely to marry and stay married. I don't think hiding behind your IQ for your virginity is very smart anyway, if someone is so smart he should overcome his anxieties
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 09:08 PM

I think most whiners actually whine about the fact that being nice doesn't help, and that *attractive* assholes get the girls. ​ The truth is just that attractive guys get* the girls, whether they're a bit assholish or not - and I see no reason to whine about it, as people like attractive people, as they probably should ​ *For LTR average guys have some more chances, for girls who are more in a settle-oriented state
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 05:29 PM

I mean you look at him, you see tall, and you go "ooh hot", you don't think "oh he'll make me feel small and protected", right..? ​ I mean it's not like I see a 0.6 waist to hip ratio and go "Oh she looks fertile"
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:47 AM

Jesus Christ, height is not about penis size, it's about how far your head will fly if he takes a swing at you, very similar to shoulder-width. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:43 AM
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They're jealous of being chad (to some degree they should be). Why they take it out on the women is beyond me, if I was a woman I'd try not to hurt people but I'd try to have my pick, get guys who look and fuck good and avoid guys who'll be reckless with my heart tbh. ​ The real problem for men is that it's very hard to be Chadly if it doesn't happen alone by good genes+environment
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/24 07:24 AM
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Men didn’t come to this world for a reason, but they stay here cuz fucking and surviving is very important to them (think about what happens to those who don’t fuck and eat) And yes, imo and experience, people usually take on challenges to impress and improve status, and also out of interest (that interest drives them to do things which impress people and get status). You don’t have to feel like a robot in order to know this, you just keep it on the back of your head when you need some thorough …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:04 PM
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imo those fictions give life less meaning. Evolution makes them more analyzable and therefore more interesting. I think I’d be much less successful in dating without that framework (though it is very deep-error-prone when you don’t have your premises and statistical thinking right)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 09:00 PM
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I think also - being very hot tends to make you kinda narc/mach - it’s been established physical attractiveness correlates with dark triad/factor. So yeah, finding a guy who’s extremely hot and also very kind and not seem to be conceited would be kinda hard. I mean even I probably seem conceited to a lot of people
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/24 08:59 PM
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I mean, either I'm REALLY attractive since like 22, or you're just wrong. I had a hot girl wanting to marry me since I was around that age, I was very hesitant about getting married but we did get married when I was like 28. Then we got divorced when I was 30, basically because I wanted to experience casual sex. ​ Since then I've been doing only casual. And I'll tell you what - they like sex. ​ Sure, I'm above average, and sure - maybe nowadays I'm more on the attractive side - but for most of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:45 PM
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wtf is your authentic self? Do you think changing your character goes through being "authentic"? It's doing things that are out of character for you on a daily basis, until it's second nature and everyone is like "ohhh you're so authentic".
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 11:27 PM
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You're asking people who talk about 'being nice to have sex', to think deeply about the morality of 'nice to be nice'. That's a no-go sir. There's nothing humans do which doesn't have a purpose - what they mean with 'nice to be nice', is they want you to be somehow ignorant of your organism's purpose - if you will, they want you to have low enough IQ to manipulate. ​ OTOH, as has been said by /u/obviousredflag - sexual attraction is the issue, not niceness. Sure, you got to have some sense of be…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 06:00 PM
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Who said they are? Some women, in certain ages, go for 'good dad' types - they settle a lot in the attractiveness department to have a stable relationship and a family - some of them even turn out to think it was a great decision, some of them even fall in love with the guy. Most times they're still at least somewhat attracted, any halfway decent guy can be 'not ugly'.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/24 02:12 AM

Old habits die hard - changing your character is very hard. I was classic nice guy when I was 15, it was a long nonlinear journey tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 01:01 AM
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"What is the most important things you look for in a guy?" "Kindness, loyalty, good smile" "No one said I want a nice guy!" Get realm I grew up in the 90s, being nice, a gentleman and a white knight was like the epitome of every guy in a movie. ​ I think I'm pretty kind today, but the shy/niceness thing is death for guys tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/24 12:56 AM
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I don't know, some women turn really lusty.. Some even do it pretty quick. ​ I've fucked within an hour and within 5 dates - but I think highest lust I've seen until now was one who was after 3 dates, so delaying 3 dates doesn't mean lusting isn't there
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:13 PM
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Actually almost no one let me know - it's usually on me to lead it there, but yeah asking for sex shows lack of practical knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:07 PM
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I think you got it really wrong cuz you're armchair doing it. Women know I'm going for casual from 1st or 2nd date. I'm no 6'3 male model, and no woman called me misogynistic for it. ​ Only one was disappointed with me not doing relationship, and it's on her cuz she totally misread the situation. And on another date a woman said she wanted serious, I said I don't and she was like "you have a lot to learn", as if I should have just lied to her or something. All in all women either reciprocate the…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 08:04 PM
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The explanation depends on the level you want to look at, but they all stem from the same reason. At a purely economic behavior/attitude reasoning - women want casual sex much less than men. Ergo there are much more men available for casual sex than women. Ergo women can be picky. ​ Think if 50% of girls would match you on Tinder, at first you won't be picky, but as matches accumulate you're like "wait, unless she's really fucking hot I ain't swiping, I can't talk to all these girls" Good luck. …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 07:33 PM

Do you think you're capable of loving a man solely for who that man is <image> No one uttered such useless concepts before the smoking ban romanticism. No one wants anyone for 'who he is' - it's always about value, sometimes we manage to make it subtle enough so even we are blind to it - but remove the value and see the relationship become uncomfortable and/or dissolved. Value can of course mean a lot of things - from looks, to grace of movement, to being a good father - the value has to be ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:41 AM

I don't see the issue... she's saying what everyone else suspects pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 11:36 AM
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A 4/10 millionaire can be equally as desirable as an 8/10 making 40k a year. I wouldn't say it's the same kind of desirability.. One is "it would be hot to have sex with him" ​ The other is "my life will be easier, I'll be able to buy things, my kids will have everything". ​ I'd never want her to choose me for cost/benefit analysis, but for sexual attraction - at least initially (of course if rel is going long-term she should start doing some analysis, but in that case attraction has been establ…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:25 AM
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Get a room
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 05:08 AM
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Bullshit. This entire thread (and sub in general) is just men complaining about it not being “fair” that they have to jump through hoops for sex while Chad gets it with 0 effort. Lying has little to do with it If it is then they're idiots, they wouldn't jump through hoops for a 4 - that's not 'fair' either. ​ It's always known women go for 'power', which easily translates to money and status. Looks - most women here and on everywhere mainstream don't admit that part, especially not making hookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:33 AM
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imo it's a red flag for relationships. She does do hookups, she just decided maybe she shouldn't. She's having trouble keeping a mate - otherwise she wouldn't need this stupid rule, let alone announcing it. Red flag
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:05 AM
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It's funny someone actually answered with "fairness" in mind. But I think most people's problem is the lying, not fairness - what you said about men is known, what you said about women is very hush-hush - you're among 3 women I've seen here who acknowledge that. For the record I don't give a shit about fairness, it's obvious to me most people will take what they can, so this behavior isn't surprising given these premises - but it was surprising and discouraging when I was younger, especially bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 04:02 AM
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You don't understand 'women' anymore than you understand 'men'. You understand typical tendencies of people, and which gender tends to each tendency more, and you improvise and reassess person-by-person from there. "You cannot" - you can, you just can't withstand build yourself up under criticism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/24 01:05 AM
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It's not true, and they'd know if they hit up on enough women - constant rejection means you're not on their level. Gym, diet, sleep, style, grooming - a lot of leveling up to be done. Also some people are just plain ugly - surgery?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:45 AM

Kids weren't the topic here though, ltr was.. And yeah if deadbed happens without kids, all I can say is good luck - I'd be out of there in 3 weeks (I mean real deadbeds, not "she's literally sick and unable" deadbed)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/24 03:20 AM

I don’t look like a model and I had casual sex with fine looking women. Edit: i may or may not look modelesque nowadays, but this has not been the situation most of my life
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:40 PM

You really believe that sub is the normal? I’ve been with a girl for 9 years, sex got wilder not tamer. That’s probably not normal either but 1-2-3 times a week with some rough play has been my experience with all girls pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/24 02:39 PM
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Not people I care about, not in any way that matters. As for total absolute strangers who have and will have no bearing on me - ideally I'd not care, in reality I care but try to work on myself ​ And yeah I agree - psychopathy is not up my ally
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/24 03:44 AM
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I used to think I'm very nice, and I am. But I'm also pretty high in dark triad (top 20% according to some test), and I actually don't understand why anyone would be low - that's why I didn't see it as dark.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:05 PM
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Don't forget prenatal trauma and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 06:02 PM
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I think a lot of people keep repeating it. I also think the reason people do it at the start is not as a gamble but just out of shyness/anxiousness (orbiting at least)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:57 AM
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I don't know, not letting me dissect and analyze feels dehumanizing to me - objectifying situations, and thus people in general is imo a very natural and smart thing to do. The dating market itself doesn't dehumanize, it just is - and like any market it can (partly) be analyzed. In the end humans are an evolutionary machine. That's not dehumanization, it's the essence of being human.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:52 AM
1

Playing the lottery... that's actually a nice analogy. Worst case scenario they've had sex with a cool attractive guy.. Worst case evolution scenario they raise a baby alone, but at least it has good genetics. ​ Yup, very good
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:49 AM
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First video: The like-magnitudes change daily and hourly. When they man and the woman like each other in about similar levels - then sometimes the man wants more, and sometimes the woman wants more - and that's the best deal. I've been in a relationship with my ex for 9 years - I didn't want it the same every day, neither did she - sometimes I felt like I want her more, and other times I felt like she's so sold on me it's becoming too easy. I do agree that if there is a noticeable asymmetry - th…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:44 AM

She might as well seem asexual, but the question is why that is.. How many sane people do you know who're asexual? ​ In a survey conducted by YouGov in 2015, 1,632 British adults were asked to try to place themselves on the Kinsey scale. 1% of participants answered "No sexuality". The breakdown of participants was 0% men, 2% women; 1% across all age ranges ​ This 1% figure (or less, there are 0.4% studies) seems to replicate - Sure, she might be just clinically asexual without asexuality being a…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:21 AM

EDIT: People telling you "you're just asexual" are like people looking at a person who's about to faint from low-sugar and saying "You seem like you might just be diabetic". It's unhelpful and they probably don't know anything about asexuality. ​ Original: I mean.. yeah some people care less about sex. First question is - do you care less about sex, or are you just not able to get the kind of sex you want? You said masturbation is meh, and you didn't specify how attractive you are, so I'm going …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/24 02:11 AM
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The issue is people believing folklore. There’s no daddy issues, there’s low self esteem, low mate value, bpd and high sociosexuality. The issue with daddy is besides the point
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/24 06:18 AM
1

I'm 140 pounds, never met a woman who's into me who didn't want me to dominate her sexually. I'll get to 160 one day, I promise
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 05:00 AM
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Yup, this. I think some guys didn't have the right kind of experiences with a girl who'll guide them to what she wants, and then they're stuck at this Madonna/whore, loving/rough dichotomy. It's totally fine to do slow loving sex, and escalate it to mild/rough/degrading depending on mood. Learn to switch gears, it's kinda like telling a story - you need buildup. ​ I guess I should be grateful this is one area my overly-micromanaging approach hasn't took over. ​ Which reminds me, I think I didn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:57 AM
1

I really don't understand this, and I guess it's a reminder that feminism once stood for something
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 04:45 AM
0

Sounds right
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/24 01:26 AM
2

Haha I don't ghost, but I get why it's sometimes easier
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:15 PM
2

I mean if she fools me she fools me - in that picture it's a definite WOULD
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 09:01 PM
3

First pic is actually hot, I don't get how the other pictures are even the same person
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:57 PM
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I mean I agree, extraversion and courage while looking halfway decent is enough - but it'll get you quantity, not necessarily girls you'd really want (looks-wise)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:12 PM
4

Can you give a picture example of what you mean by 6/10?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 08:11 PM
18

what about chill purposes?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/24 07:19 PM

yeah I don't think we should do the original dated definition - but I still stand that where the majority of people are attracted it's not a fetish. And whether they admit it or not, the majority of men are on average more attracted to younger girls. ​ In this okCupid study, 20 was just the minimum available choice: https://external-preview.redd.it/RaPV5tQUC90ahZXnCpu3ghmIHpyjnBqsXGJPqCGKYq0.png?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=93b2431795fb3b87be9874a261995cd80ee59e48
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:40 PM

I mean if she takes out a ruler then yeah, but if she just means she likes to feel her man is tall (even if relative to other men and not herself), that's just a preference a lot of women have. If the guy needs her to be 18, and 19 is not doing it for him - THEN yeah it's a fetish, and although I'm open-minded it's a pretty weird one too. ​ But it is a valid question which at least makes this thing be about reasoning and thinking about human preferences and not high-grounding "that's just toxic …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 06:34 PM
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Pseudophilosophy - That's a big word coming from a communist ​ It's not gross - it's life when you don't have pseudophilosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:33 AM
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I'm sure he went online to get famous just so he can finally meet Ludacris
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:31 AM

Ah, that's legalization, not fetishization. But yeah if 19 isn't doing it for him then that's 18 fetish I'll accept that
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:29 AM

They're not fetishized, they're attractive. fat women are fetishized. When most people are attracted it's not a fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:21 AM

I know from personal experience that women prefer That's a sentence you don't see every day
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 01:20 AM
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Human beings have no meaning without sex. There, I said it. Also - he self-sexualised, as he should. ​ Can't believe you made me defend fucking bieber
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:14 AM
1

Emma watson leaked? I think it's deepfake
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:13 AM
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There are women who hate men, and there are women who enjoy hurting men - does it make sense to put these women into the discussion? Some people suck, some people are great, most are meh
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/24 12:04 AM
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Superiority with respect to what? If you mean the dating market it's the very successful and hot men at the top, then hot women, then interleaving steps of men and women, where the more average you get, the shittier it is for men. ​ Women aren't superior as the top winner here are men, but most women are superior to most men in that ladder. ​ I don't know what there is to say about this except "try to be at the top"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 10:29 PM
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I don't know, in my experience better looking and richer people tend to be nicer and more interesting, so I wouldn't say having these implicits shallowness. I'll never forget I once flew business and 2 different non-crew people got up from their seat to try and help me find a place for my luggage. In coach I'll be lucky if they'll let me through to reach my seat ​ EDIT: TEND, no one says ugly people are automatically not-nice
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 05:20 PM
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Actually your example is pretty bad... A woman who likes ugly men is a fetish too. When the preference is weird - non-majority-preference - then it's a fetish, simple as. No one has a fetish for pretty girls
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/24 02:52 AM
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I'll need a picture, seems weird Unless he's really socially stifled to the point of constant anxiousness
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:34 PM

Men who can't participate in casual sex tend to hate on casual sex. Women who aim for monogamous relationships, especially when unsuccessful, tend to hate on casual sex. ​ It's a regulation mechanism - the market is working against you, so you try to change the market a bit by making it frowned-upon to have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/24 02:23 AM
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I don't get it, you always wanted to settle down and never did - why? It seems like you were doing ok until now? tbh attractive guys who are financially stable don't have a problem getting cute looking girls for relationships... Build a social circle I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 04:08 AM
3

No 2012 is ok, people thought the world is ending so they fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 03:02 AM
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EDIT: lol that last guy you added is like a 20y/o me if I started sports before 28 instead of being a scrawny fuck, for a minute there I thought you were blondes-only. ​ ORIGINAL: I don't know which and why men scream that, I'm 35 so pretty much all women I date are over 25 at this point. I was interested because women 25+ don't usually go for the overly-youthful look but more the 28y/o chiseled look, at least in my experience. Indeed younger girls like the pretty boys (who later, assuming they …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/24 12:48 AM
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Women can get sex literally within 10 minutes no matter what. So yeah, they need an extra something to get them going. ​ Do you see ultra-chad having sex every 10 minutes? no right? cuz it's an afterthought for him, if he's not in the mood he'll turn sex down. Now 10x that and you have an above-average girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:50 PM
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How old are you? these guys look 19..?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 11:48 PM

Too long - I agree some women have this problem, but some don't. If ALL the women you know have this problem, guess what - it's probably a you problem and not a 50% of the population problem. I know plenty of women like that, I also know women who have more integrity than most men I know
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/24 12:00 PM
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They're treated well if they choose well, and if they lack options - it's back to the same conundrum of the incel
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 11:15 PM

Girls date down on looks - attractive-looking guys are not in abundance tbh. It might feel like girls only date up on looks to guys here, because the average guy is pretty much unattractive. If hot girls honestly rate you a 7 that means you can get pretty much anyone (same socio-economic status) with some smoothness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 06:33 PM
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Yeah society doomerism is a loner semi-virgin way of life, not for the top 5% in attractiveness. I think you're overconfident as to what can or can't touch you, but I guess you're just making the point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 05:46 PM
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2 points get you from a 6 to 8, sounds good to me
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 04:13 PM
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I mean yeah, changing personality is hard, not to mention if you're older. But I personally went from shy, stuttering 15y/o to someone women I date call 'confident, extroverted, charismatic' - so it is possible (I'm more introverted than extroverted, but it's easy to get wrong when I'm out to impress). I'm of the opinion you should first take care of your looks, as being ugly and developing personality can be hard - people will react poorly even if you did the right move.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/24 02:28 AM
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It's not allowed, and it'd frowned upon by pretty much everyone. I'd drink urine if water wasn't around - thank god for 7/11 right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:53 PM
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The post was about 30s and 20s, I don't need to be hit on by an older man to understand going for 13y/o is creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/24 06:51 PM
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I don’t know about the percentages, pretty sure young guys are usually worse. But totally agree on last point.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 10:42 PM
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I don’t know if never, but something has gone downhill. Also - there’s a large minority, especially in younger women, who are just unstable. They love you and excited, and 2 weeks later it’s over. I think it has to do with bpd/ocd but that’s reaching
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/24 04:34 PM
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Yeah I think the problem is when you go to clubs and meet single women, you kinda pre-select for more promiscuous women, who in turn think promiscuity is more normal than it is. I definitely had that glitch for a long time. At the same time - pretty much every girl has a chad or 2 in her history which was 'just for fun', and that probably what adds a lot to all the chad glory stories (which are glorious tbh) <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/24 08:49 PM
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Genetics, epigenetics and culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 06:21 AM
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I'm not relationship oriented - I ended a marriage to have casual sex. BUT - I did gladly, hornily, have sex 9 years with the same girl. And even in my casual era I had 2.5 years basically having sex with the same girl every week. ​ So yeah, not bored. I do know of that issue with SOME guys, but definitely not all men are like that. ​ EDIT: Some girls who've been with me did say I'm very "couplish" (no word for that in english), and some of my male friends say I'm "best fwb known to man" - so in…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/24 12:22 AM
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Oh I didn't cheat, but we did get a divorce because of that want issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 10:21 PM
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I bet my ex-wife thought I was a pretty safe option. Sex was great, if anything she's the one who thought we weren't having enough of it (probably right and due to me masturbating, though we did do it twice a week). I turned out to be the least safe option, as somewhere along the way I decided I want to have casual sex with other girls, and I dragged the decision for too long of a time (lesson for girls: don't push a guy into marriage if he doesn't seem like he's up for it, YMMV). ​ Anyway my po…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:26 PM
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I had to double check if I wasn't in some cuckolding sub
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 05:23 PM
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I mean it's called a hookup, but that's where the comparison with hookers pretty much ends usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 04:02 PM
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Very weird indeed. Maybe he should reset his profile or something, sometimes you just deplete your environment.. Like - I didn't get any matches since I got back from LA, and usually I have a few per week, sometimes it just acts up
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:57 PM
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Someone should not need surgery to look and breath good - we don't live in a should world. I fitted some women's attraction standards (as I said some would rate me 5), now I probably fit more. If your friend is even mildly attractive he should at least have SOME matches - get better pictures, the competition is tough but it's not "I'll take whatever I can get" tough
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 03:31 PM
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ok Assuming his features go well together sounds good Well I have a friend who dropped everything and went to live in Columbia, so it does happen (he has property here, but he can work remotely) 5'11, dark and handsome? Most wouldn't say I'm above a 7 imo, but some would say 5 and some would say 8. Also I just had jaw surgery so it might go up a bit, don't have new pics yet. Think of a not-so-tall and not-as-handsome Tom Ellis
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 02:50 PM
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he wouldn't take anyone, he's just ok with non-hotties. if (IF) he's conventionally attractive, gym and nice photos should get him by easy. LA is tough, gtfo of there I was in LA last month, I had some nice matches actually but I didn't try talking to them so can't tell if they're legit
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:34 PM
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Casual sex is appealing. If effort-to-reward ratio is abysmal that's another problem. For me, I usually love spending time and talking with a girl after sex, in days when it's not too rainy and cold we can keep talking and having sex till morning. Actually it's BEFORE sex that I don't really like chatting etc. BUT - I recently discovered I don't like talking with any girl, some girls are really boring and stupid - gotta have some minimal level of intelligence for the talking part to work for me …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/24 12:22 PM
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tbh they're not pulling that idea out of their asses - they learn it in puberty and apply. The weird part is how they're unwilling to unlearn it no matter what, it's like communism - once you're infected it's hard to stop
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 06:52 PM
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I don't know if there's anything to be so neurotic about, a lot of girls do love it when guys go down on them, even when their cocks are big. ​ As a guy who is well-equipped (not huge) I do understand how it'd be emasculating if that's your only out though - but it's better to make the best of what you have than whine about emasculation when if anything, this attitude is much more emasculating than being the 'good oral guy' ​ EDIT: if anything the major problem for me is that going down on girls…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 11:51 AM
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No, stupid would be believing most chances are you're gonna marry your high-school girlfriend. I'd put it more in innocent category, as it's hard to blame to poor guy - but it is pretty stupid after all. ​ Mean would be promising that 16y/o girl you'll marry her, even though most chances are you won't. ​ I guess some 16 year olds keep their stupidity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/24 03:13 AM
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35-45 isn’t late bloomer, it’s a senior wizard. As for started girlfriend, never heard of that term but if anyone is planning to marry their first they’re probably in for a disappointment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 05:34 PM
2

No, but it does help show some men lack deduction skills
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/24 12:05 AM
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Can confirm, usually if the sex isn't good and on an uptrend by 5th time, things will not be much better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:12 PM
1

You don't need to be best, you need to be among best. For instance, I have 2 girls at the top which are hard to compare, and I imagine that number will increase going forward. One was definitely objectively physically hotter - but sex-wise I believe potential was about equal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 06:10 PM
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Yeah I knew I a guy like that but he never tapped into his potential, as far as gym and finance goes. But he did have a way-above-average sex life still, could have been a monster tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/24 11:56 AM
1

Some people allow it, some don’t. No one cares if it’s controlling, that’s just the type of thing to say when people want you to not enforce you standards (whether they’re legit or not). I would allow it sometimes. If it’s a weekly thing then it’s either that or me - I’m not gonna stay home and be anxious about a girl’s ability to hold her drink and hormones in check
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 01:56 PM
1

Well yeah mainstream got worse, but remember that there’s no alternative in the 90s, mainstream TV is all you have - Internet was just starting and most people didn’t know where to look. I stumbled upon some local PUA forums around 2003, and it was all this “put lipstick on your neck” kind, not the go the gym kind.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 11:03 AM
1

Jesus, so he gets hit on every time by randos or is he just extroverted and knows everyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 10:54 AM
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I’m a late80s/90s kid - Treating women like porcelain was very much spirit of the day back then already, no MeToo needed. I think some men have that tendency, I’m not sure why
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 05:36 AM
3

I see, thanks for taking the time Why did you withdraw so.. extremely, If you don’t mind me asking
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 04:53 AM

Jesus, aren't you a happy camper.. OP - if that's the only reason you're alive - as happy here said - people who don't get lots of love thrown at them usually, well, don't get love thrown at them - stop waiting for that virgin maid, and know that even she didn't have 'pure' love, only evolution-made love that's nice to feel and roleplay as if it's somehow 'pure'. ​ I don't think the world is that brutal, it's mostly indifferent, and that comes off as callous sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:46 AM
1

How many times has it happened exactly? are you a movie star?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:39 AM
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I mean, I don't know what age group you're talking about - but guys do assort on attractiveness too. It's rare to see a 6'4 guy hanging with 5'7s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/24 03:19 AM
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I don’t think all, but certainly some. Also - how many times did you see her before sex, or was it one? I like being on that side, good vantage point. I’ll give you a different example - had fwb for 2 years (during which indeed she went out looking for relationship and sometimes fucked me same day before) - but when she found someone she liked, she gave him head on 3rd date and probably sex on 4th, and after 2 more weeks she stopped seeing me saying she’s feeling guilty now that it’s heading som…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 09:23 PM
3

The Guy is inherently sexually motivated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 08:24 PM
0

I'm as centered as you can get around dating (struggles or otherwise) - most people who know me will think I'm kind, albeit self-centered. I do agree men (and women) on this sub do not represent a good population sample of any normal town/city - but I really don't think the "why" you gave is in any way satisfactory
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:18 PM
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I don't agree with the 'havoc' and all that jazz, But I do agree the sample on this sub doesn't represent reality, for either men or women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 06:15 PM
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As a reformed 'nice-guy', I don't know any guy more sexual than me, pre or post reform. Though from reading some of the 'nice-guy' responses around here, maybe I wasn't a typical one.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:55 PM
5

I wouldn't say it's an act, it's anxiousness with low self-perceived ability to sexually attract (which might be correct or not). Most people don't act all day long, they just feel compelled to certain roles in a given situation. ​ EDIT: also, might also be just bad habits, after for example anxiousness and low-value have been mitigated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 05:54 PM
8

Oh simps let her know - but first the 'befriend' her, and then like a month or more in they'll go "I think I'm in love with you" or some other over-hyped bullshit that repels anyone within 5km
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:40 PM
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It's not the only difference. Nice guys supplicate and try to hide their sexual wants behind being 'nice'. It's not nefarious - it's just something they do because of a misperception of women, what they're 'allowed' to do and think, and maybe their own attractiveness. They think they have to be 'chivalrous' in order to get the woman interested, instead of assuming she's be interested out of sheer attention and being sensual with her. Sure, maybe the guy is really unattractive to her - but in tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/24 04:38 PM
1

What does no friends mean? Like actual 0 people they can talk to? That sounds pretty sad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/24 11:58 PM
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I don't see the connection between the examples and your argument. People fall in love in a lot of ages, but yes some lose innocence in teens/20s. I don't think love is all that tbh, it's another emotion like fear and joy, to be felt and cherished and moved on from
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:04 PM
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It's not a username it's a flair, lets be civil
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 04:00 PM
1

lol, fetish.. The cope is strong. On average, men have pretty similar desires - they want to procreate with beautiful, young, fertile women. Why? evolution. On average, women have pretty similar desires - they want to procreate with good-looking, strong, high-status men. Why? evolution. ​ Young women aren't any more a fetish than a hot guy, a rich guy or king-of-the-class. ​ As to your question about LTR: Man doesn't need to ditch his primary relationship to procreate Most men, not to mention ol…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 03:31 PM
5

If she likes a lot of activities she better get someone who has the money and energy to do them. Most women I know won't want to do new things multiple times a week. You shouldn't say yes to every want, you should examine what you're comfortable with and what you're not, and if you bend see that it doesn't happen too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 12:07 PM
2

If you were on a few dates and not first date - what made it different from any other ‘dating’ scenario? It’s as if every girl I had sex with started as a hookup..?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/24 01:53 AM

They're still top 25% - if the girls are gonna be mildly-cute. Any average+ guy can hook a lonely 5
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 04:07 PM
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Yeah I didn't realize how loserish some guys could be until I tried talking with one and he just keeps repeating how I'm not nice, exactly because I'm not clingy, desperate, affectionate etc. He literally can't understand it, always a neurotic "yes but" bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/24 01:33 AM
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Can confirm ta06 - I have nothing online that's public, never been an issue when meeting girls off Tinder/Bumble. ​ EDIT: I agree it can help with some girls, if you do it right
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:05 PM
2

If someone can get casual sex once or twice a month - they're definitely top 25% at least. Only a few guys I know can consistently do that with any mildly cute-looking girl
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:04 PM
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You're right, they hardly exist. Well money-wise, if you're not totally broke - you can still pull off short-term relationships as a good-looking muscular and masculine guy. But even those - really good-looking 6ft+ guys, they're a small minority. Girls swipe-right for like 5% of guys, and they're not in agreement on who they swipe on (or else only 5% of guys would get matches). ​ So yeah, the problem is not that 10-20% get 80%, it's that if you want to be this 'hot guy' who gets sex with hot gi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 03:00 PM

16y/o isn't a little boy - it's a warrior in training. And yes it's surprising that a 24y/o woman would find a 16y/o attractive enough to take a risk, so it's also unsurprising so little actual women go for this kind of thing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 01:31 PM
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They're only (on average!) less desirable looks-wise - character-wise it depends. If she's jaded then yeah her character will suffer too, but that's true for anyone who's been around
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/24 04:04 AM

Well yeah, if you count isn't as 2 syllables (is not)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 12:06 PM

Red pill who isn't willing to fix himself is Black pill in my book
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/24 11:10 AM

Largely depends on your genetics and how optimized is your routine as so far as food/exercise/sleep.. No way to calculate it, better to just give it your best - even 10lb of muscle is a big change in appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:36 PM
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Why would you have a happy fulfilled life if your only evolutionary target is not being fulfilled? Even when it is fulfilled you’re likely not to be happy and fulfilled. Average guys can have average success, yes average guys are pretty unattractive. Average guys can substantially better themselves with 8 months of living right and have above-average success. Below average guys can maybe get to average, maybe not. Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/24 07:34 AM
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Why is it that most people in the world, EXCEPT Western Women believe in finding long term relationships before 25 and not gaining body counts over 2 Most people in the world are one paycheck from starving, I don't know if that's the standard we should be looking at. The west is what happens when women have choice (cuz you know, they have jobs and money), and as something close to a libertarian - I'd rather see people have choices than some weird policy of "one man per woman" handed down from th…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 07:25 PM
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At 30 you can date 25y/o no problem, I don't understand. Do you mean mid-30s? I find it's harder cuz you have to sort through all the "looking for long-term ONLY!" losers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/24 12:28 AM
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I'm very open in person, can talk for hours about things. In text I keep it short, I just hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/24 03:14 AM
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Because there usually is. ​ A 1995 book by Yueh-Ting Lee et al. argued that stereotypes are sometimes accurate.[73] Similarly, a 2015 study by Jussim et al. reviewed four studies of racial stereotypes, and seven studies of gender stereotypes regarding demographic characteristics, academic achievement, personality and behavior, and argued that some aspects of ethnic and gender stereotypes are accurate while stereotypes concerning political affiliation and nationality are much less accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:55 AM
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That's legal in even more places, and again - no mass prostitution
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:50 AM
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It's legal in some parts, you don't see mass-prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 02:13 AM
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Yes, I realized I have nothing in common with most red/black-pillers and that most of them just whine and don't really want to solve their issues. I don't think I changed my mind on women from being here, as I don't see this place as a representative sample of actual women I see on the street/Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 11:33 AM

err on side of aggressiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/24 07:10 AM
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For casual debauchery - 1. ​ I think everything else will probably break dating, not fix
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:51 PM
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Nothing in here that can't be said about an attractive guy, move along
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 04:37 PM

I'm not red, and I don't dislike attractive women (if anything the unattractive ones tend to be annoying). But as for the date9 but marry7 - it's a safety approach - the 9s have lots of attention from very high value men and will be hard to retain as mates, whereas the 7s are more "realistic". I think even I would have some anxiety around being in love with a girl who's considered beautiful-actress-type hot. ​ I think some girls experience some of that when dating a really hot guy - the constant…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/24 08:29 AM
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“Okay to reject” People looking for morals in completely amoral subjects are making a categorical error and are just full-blown annoying. Don’t like fat women? Don’t go out with them. Here, it’s all sorted now. “But I’ll be judged for rejecting them!” No, you won’t. They’re making a categorical error and being full-blown annoying - ignore/block.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 11:37 PM
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I'm not toxic (I go for what I want, but I don't outright lie or gaslight about it), and the women who initially want me keep wanting me - they* don't seem to need much rollercoaster. This is right for my ex-wife who I was with for 9 years (last 5 were stable), and it's true for my latest connections in the last 5 years which were all casual. ​ *I accept some women have issues and need a rollercoaster. I'm fine with them leaving me fast, I don't need them in my life for long.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/24 01:20 AM
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Never seen anyone claiming it's 'for' the guy. I did see people claiming it's not a must. ​ In my experience - girls I've been with aren't fully-happy without good penetration. They sometime say they are, like they say they are satisfied without orgasms - but when they feel comfortable they'll tell the obvious truth - that of course they want to cum. ​ I've been with a girl who went from "doesn't matter, I like having sex with you even if I don't cum" to "Of course I wanted to cum, but what woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/24 08:23 PM
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I don’t know, for me in clubs I get prettier women than apps. I have the sort of beauty that moves, I guess? I do see less makeouts when out nowdays, but I think it’s my age group not necessarily mentality of world
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/24 04:45 PM

What does it matter how you call it?I call it dress&groom well, go to the gym, don't overmasturbate, read a good book, train yourself socially and err on the side of aggressiveness rather than timidness. Anything more than this is circlejerking to grifters EDIT: and if you have deformities, consider surgery.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/24 01:11 AM
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Drink tonic, looks like you’re drinking and you can even let her taste because it’s “gin”. If you’re too cool for that you’re too cool for hookup culture
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 09:42 AM
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I don't get it, I just act normal and not needy and they're just fine with me. I don't think I've been rejected for my behavior since I was like 22 or something
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/23 01:32 AM
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7-7.5 who matches 5-6-7, and rarely 8. In clubs and in normal life I can get 7.5-8s - wife wasn't from Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 07:58 AM
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I'm as porn-addicted as it gets, and I sleep with 6-7s all the time. Heck, I slept with sub-5s! Also, was married to an 8, so that's why I assume I can get higher - not because of porn. I don't know, maybe for some men porn sets unrealistic standards - for me it's just an addiction
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:47 AM

General principle I agree, but flaunting options in her face is just stupid imo. It's easily observed by her that you're wanted, she doesn't need to see girls hovering around you all day, that's just not relationship material
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:38 AM

There's no such thing, you don't override 1billion years of evolution with top-down moral decisions. ​ OTOH - I don't agree with everything OP said, just that "not giving a crap about other..." isn't really feasible
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/23 05:37 AM
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It's kinda the same like guys trying to 'be friends' first. Some guys actually want friends, but a lot use it as strategy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 04:08 AM
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They want her to want them. Simple as that, valid want, but not attainable by all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 12:14 AM
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_selection_in_humans
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/23 12:25 AM
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Yup, just throw some label on 80% of people, that’ll teach’em
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:48 PM
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Why are people obsessed with having a good chance of procreating with high mate-value partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:12 PM
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Clearing trash cans is not empowering for men, its derogatory and benefits no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:10 PM
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Realizing that a man is likely to cheat on you once mildly above-average options come knocking on his door
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 10:07 PM
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- Realizing that a man loves a woman based on how the woman looks, - Realizing that a man's self-preservation comes first before his love for the woman. - Realizing that a man is likely to leave you once better options come knocking on his door. ​ What now?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 07:31 PM
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Most people here don't have a problem finding a gf, they have a problem that 'chad' fucked their potential gf on a night out whereas they'll have to pay for dates and be exclusive. In short, they want to to feel sexually desirable by good looking young girls, and they don't. I'm not saying they should or shouldn't be annoyed by that, but I think that's their issue, not just finding one girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/23 05:33 PM
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Ask the same about friendships or every human relations and you have your answer
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/23 09:33 PM
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I'm a man, it's a red flag. It doesn't mean there's necessarily a big problem, it just means there's probably a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 10:26 PM
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What I really fail to see in this kind of threads is - who cares? What bearing does this have on your personal life and relationships? If you have a girl and you have a situation with her - who cares what someone on AITAH thinks? ​ Develop your standards/ideas, enact them in reality, see what happens and revise. Don't build your standards upon 17y/o redditors who're wasting their youth by arguing etiquette instead of having fun with actual people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 05:18 PM
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He gets sex from the 8-10, chad doesn't mess with 5,6-7 - I mess with 5,6-7. As to your question: Yes, sex is hotter when you're more attracted (assuming everything else equals). But sometimes you want option for variety.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:09 AM

Ask her about girls who would actually date older men, not girls who were grossed out. They're talking about relationships, not creepy guys annoying 17y/o
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/23 01:08 AM
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Never heard of this stat
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:26 PM
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She's not a leader, she just says she is. wtf is she leading exactly? a Tiktok channel for old hags? ​ "Leader" Men want hot cool women. She's not hot, she's not cool, and that's all there is to it
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 02:44 PM
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age-appropriate, jesus fucking christ
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/23 05:15 AM
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What is this? Why do some people think anyone cares about their weird personal choices? It's like walking into Universal Studios and asking random workers "I've been hurt by Universal movies narratives - what do you think if I stop watching Universal movies? would you care?" No one cares dude - if you wanna not date 30+ don't date them, no one cares about your personal vendetta against your age-group. ​ Either be fun and attractive, or get cheated on and be "saved for later", that's all there is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 04:16 PM
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I think he's trolling tbh. He's gonna bring the picture of the empty women's only nightclub
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 01:39 AM
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Well then the guy must have been taken or DROWNING in girls, which again, same point - women shoot high when they approach
/r/PurplePillDebate19/12/23 12:38 AM
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Usually when women approach they shoot high. It's not the approaching that makes him disinterested, it's the fact that he can and does usually get hotter girls. ​ for instance, I think only once in my life was I approached by a woman who I thought was really hot. ​ EDIT: Also, usually I approach girls who I like less because it's mentally easier for me. A lot of times I'm intimidated by the girls I really like - so even if he approaches it doesn't mean a lot. But maybe I'm rare in that sense
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 09:08 PM
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Late stage capitalism is hippie talk. At the same time, women in the workplace isa n issue only for incel tradcons
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 06:47 PM
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I heard of people who lost their homes 75 years ago, and are still at war because they want their old home back instead of the one they have now. ​ People don't want "best" or "practical" - they fall to believe a certain notion and they turn full gas at it, or if they're feeling unable - they whine online and if they're lucky make "social movements". ​ My first sex with with a girl who had 2 before me - I gotta say I literally didn't care, and I think she thought I was good (she knew it was my f…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/23 12:46 AM
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It depends on the context
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/23 01:11 AM
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Girls would casually sleep with such a guy and develop feelings - virtually no one wants such an "arrangement" from the get-go.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:54 AM
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I started dating in early 30s (dated/married same girl for 9 years before that). I think I'd be having easier time if I was 26, but as long as I improve my looks and personality (personality means being fun and outgoing, not nice and complacent) things tend to get better. ​ EDIT: I'm mainly aiming for casual relationships where I don't have to lie about it - not long-term/marriage stuff which would be more easily available for my age
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/23 03:31 AM
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I didn't have a problem with it when I was a 20y/o virgin, No problem with it 21-30 when I had a gf/wife. No problem since. I always wanted to participate, never seen a problem with it. People gonna whine, let them whine
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/23 08:44 AM
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Unpopular opinion: Why should anyone 'posses' empathy for total strangers, not to mention unrelatable is beyond me. I can understand it's sad for unattractive men to be unattractive - been there, done that. But the whining - I just can't deal with that. Get fit, get surgery, eat&sleep right, read a damn book and stop the whine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/23 12:59 AM
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I found my ex-wife before Tinder. She is hot. I still wanted to have casual sex and got a divorce. Yes, apps are way harder than real life (in the sense that the available matches are of lower quality). Getting a mid-gf is easy tbh. Getting someone who you actually love is harder. Getting multiple good looking girls for casual is hardest imo
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/23 06:40 PM
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Women want both but tend to take #1 for a given. ​ Men want both but tend to take, well, #1 for a given. ​ You swapped #1 for the sexes - very confusing :(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/23 01:19 AM
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Accept that you can't know in advance what kind of girl she is, even if she seems "innocent". Your only-long-term gf might be a raging cheating whore. Let boys be boys - even long-term oriented girls appreciate your passion for them - let her say "not tonight", let her feel wanted if you feel like you want her. You don't impress her by being a coward, you impress her by being bold.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:27 AM
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I don't compliment much either, but I touch. Sit close to her, unintended hand/elbow touches at first - then leg, the let your hand stay there. In my experience, even when all the conversation is normal - touching lets her know you're not just there to be a friend. Make sure to kiss at some point. ​ I think in the last 5 years I only told 1 girl she was beautiful, it was after we kissed and she was stunning. ^ I don't recommend not complimenting, just saying it's not necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/23 08:18 AM
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So... there's a subset of women who are attracted to violent men, therefore being a good person has nothing... right. ​ Sure, men who can inflict violence are on average more attractive - there are very reasonable reasons why that is. It doesn't mean men who ARE violent are more attractive. ​ Look your best, be strong, be courageous (which means not flinching from social interactions with women) and be funny. Don't wanna do that? keep inceling
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/23 01:09 AM
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If you're weak for no reason and it happens more than twice a year - yeah, it's an issue. But a friend dying, as long as you're not entirely losing your shit - you're allowed to show emotions. Sure, maybe some girls have real issues regarding men showing emotions in response to dire events - most normal girls don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/23 10:25 PM
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I don't know, my politics don't align with pretty much anyone, but I never had that as something keeping me from dating... Sure, if you're aligned in direct opposition to someone then it can cause at least long-term issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:49 AM
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My social circle is very limited. Work from home, only have 1 friend who I can go out with without someone raising an eyebrow. ​ Yes - it would be easier to find hookups with a larger social circle - but I don't think that's my most limiting factor. ​ Maybe I'd do better if I had more friends who like to party though. ​ Anyway - I wouldn't count on building a social circle as the main strategy to meet women. You wanna meet women, make yourself attractive and go out to meet women or use OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/23 12:47 AM
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I think in most cases it's men being cowardly/socially-anxious and attributing their anxiety to reality instead of irrational-fear. Case study: myself. Sure, some women react poorly and a lot will reject you - but I've been surprised by the caliber of hot women I was able to make-out with by just coming up to them boldly in a club. Sadly on Tinder my matches are of lower quality looks-wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:59 PM
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That's why you're successful - Q.E.D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/23 10:43 PM
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Do you even lift?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/23 11:25 PM
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Casual sex doesn't ruin women. Ruined women often retort to casual sex. This is not necessarily a 2-way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/23 02:14 PM
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Well yeah, physicality wise there are some features a strong consensus exists for. No one thinks a weak chin is attractive for men, but they might settle for it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/23 03:36 PM
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It's not a true league - it's your low-competitiion-context league. Also - were these (the not Tinder/Nightclub) relationships or casual? ​ Still - good info - your league is context-dependent.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/23 01:48 AM
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It would be smart to get a test. It still shows a lack of trust. The mere unpopularity of it shows a lack of trust. Do the test stealthily, calm your mind, problem solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/23 10:01 AM
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What would you rate yourself as? I think when men say they can't get a date, they mean with someone they're somewhat attracted to - not just any person on Tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 05:35 PM
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It's not tons of options if the men aren't attractive to her. I can fuck tons of fat women, who cares? I rather jerk off
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/23 10:45 PM
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I've been in spain for the past 2 weeks - the things men talk about here might be true to some extent in the US, but in here I see perfectly normal couples. Most girls are hot, most guys are ok, cute couples everywhere. ​ More to your pr point - girls have HOOKUP options, but they want relationship options. Average men barely have relationship options, but they're totally lacking in hookup options. ​ Yeah, women are somewhat in a better spot, but not that much, not really and not emotionally. ​ …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 10:36 PM
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These are things women do to show their own attractiveness/creativity - not because they adore visuals. ​ At the same time - I agree, women like hot looking guys
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 08:11 PM
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Real dating is nothing like instagram hoes, and it's nothing like Reddit bullshit. If she finds you attractive you'll probably have sex within 1-3 dates. If not then at best you can convince her of a 'relationships deal' which, if she's desperate enough, she'll consider and settle for you. ​ Vast majority of women aren't out there to good food off you, nor are they out there to get money from you. They want to have fun with an attractive guy, most of the time hoping to lock him down for a relati…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/23 01:50 PM
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Yes, it happened to them, at least once - it doesn't mean it happens all the time. ​ sure, one day she's not shaved, another on her period, another she didn't go home yet and is sweaty - but that's it, most rejections are just rejections, stop the cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 01:17 PM
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They're a pretty good example of attractive people with an enormous amount of sexual options..
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/23 10:55 PM
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Yeah, but some guys aren't even millionaires
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:23 PM
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You said it yourself - only top 5% can manage consistent casual sex. ​ I do think he made a false dichotomy - cuz there IS a continuum between 0 ability for casual sex, going through hard-to-get casual, casual-with-mid-girls all the way to "all the girls want me for anything I want". ​ Surely most men would be VERY happy with just being able to pick up a cute-looking (not hottest) girl once every 2 -3 weeks from a club for some casual fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:22 PM
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So it's only for hookups that you want the popular ones?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:45 PM
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It generalizes well enough tbh. See pretty much all celebs - always an issue with cheating, or they have an open relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:44 PM
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it's not wrong, he was wrong - that girl corrected him by his own admission.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 10:15 PM
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It's mostly about standards. If you're a hot well-off guy @ 35 - don't worry, you'll have your fair share of hot 22y/o ready to do stuff, whether it's hooking up or dating. But sure - it's probably easier (i.e you don't have to be as attractive) if you're 26.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 07:01 PM
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Yes, I was. Everyone makes mistakes, no need to be proud of them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:43 AM
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I wasted pretty much the same amount of time, arguably more - I’m just not framing it as anything to be proud of
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 11:42 AM
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You didn’t. You wasted a decade being scared of women and wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 12:30 AM
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You're working in tech. Everyone who's terminally-online tends red
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 10:43 PM
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Newsflash: they’re right. Who cares about ‘men’ or ‘women’? People care about specific issues and people that are RELEVANT to them. If someone is lonely enough to have an AI girlfriend, it’s reasonable to conclude she wouldn’t want him either and everyone’s better off with her not having to interact with him in the first place. It’s reasonable - but it doesn’t mean it’s 100% right - some men are lonely but can get better - it’s still their responsibility and not women’s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 03:27 PM
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I don't live in the usa, Normal Drinks around here are are around 15$.. Some people find it expensive, I don't mind it - but if I did I'd just bring wine and go for a walk with her
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 04:21 PM
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35M here, always just go to some bar... Nothing too fancy, just a regular dating bar. Seems fine. It would also be fine if we'd just walked around and I'd bring wine I guess. ​ I think going to a fancy restaurant 1st date is just idiotic. I try to keep it very casual, at least until we have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 07:42 PM
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Which means you're not handling your own emotions and behavior. Shouldn't implies they will feel bad about it - why are they doing something they will feel bad about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 06:40 PM
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The 'dehumanizing' part seemed moralizing, if it's about a personal distaste that's fine of course
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:39 PM
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Minority doesn't mean few, it may as well be 45%. Sure, some women don't like casual sex - but they're not used, they just don't do it. ​ If someone feels bad after casual and still does it every week - she's not used, she's just bad at managing her own emotions and behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:38 PM
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I had an FWB for 2.5 years, of course if I wanted it could have turned serious, but no one was hurt and she went on to find a boyfriend and stopped seeing me - best ending I could have hoped for, hope she's still with him
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:36 PM
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I don't see what the issue is with either of these.. Some women like to be called a piss slut, so? You can hug them after it's over, for the specific moment she wants to feel like a piss slut and no amount of false-moralizing will stop that from happening
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:34 PM
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They're not being used for sex, they're enjoying sex with attractive men. ​ I've had multiple fwbs, probably none of them felt 'used' (unless they really wanted to feel that way in a specific instance ;) ​ I think women who are constantly being 'used' for sex are just not attractive enough for the men they want, so the men don't come back for more, and then you have a woman talking about how men 'used' her for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 05:29 PM
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Yup, my bad. I'll just sit this one out, not important enough to look up the right comment :(
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 10:09 PM
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I wouldn't say he's a red flag, I'd just say his actions tend to implicitly admit being low-value. ​ I say tend on purpose - it doesn't mean he's low value - it's just that on average I'd expect lower-value men to go for this kind of 'deal'. ​ EDIT: I'm talking about exclusively and seriously dating - not hooking up or doing a mini-relationship few months thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 08:11 PM
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Oh comeon, you see a top 5% girl in any mediocre club in town. Sure, there's only 1 or 2 - but they're there. Not every hot girl goes to work as a model, some of them just go to normal schools and have a normal life, jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:57 PM
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She's barely above average, that makeup doesn't work it only looks professional, not hot. ​ With that in mind - she's either just doing her thing on social media or she really thinks men want her so bad - most girls are not that manipulative or stupid. ​ No one cares about their entitlement - go get your own entitlement. Fact is, if she can get laid by hot guys and that's what she likes - then that's what she can get and you can keep on saying "value inflation" all you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 07:54 PM
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Below average guys always have and always will struggle. Above average guys struggling is not a good sign, but I don't know how much they struggle - it's more that they expect to be able to pull of a 'chad', but they're struggling with that - if an above-average guy wants a relationship, he can certainly get one, at least with an ok looking woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 03:28 PM
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She's 45, I'm not even red-pilled that much but even I know that's post-wall. Also, yes love is possible, and caring about someone. It doesn't mean she doesn't get sex elsewhere, nor would I condemn her for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 01:36 PM
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It doesn't matter, no one wants to be settled for - they want to be attractive, not get lucky once. I bet most incels aren't virgins, just sexually unsuccessful men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 02:05 AM
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Why do you need to ask women? Can't you ask man who've had good experiences? I've had sex when I was 21 - she was attracted to me, then she LOVED me, you could see how hyped up she was. I've since been with others, some were all over me, others less so (or just showed it less). ​ Never have I felt any of them were after any status of mine, not that I have any status apart from being seemingly financially secured.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 12:02 AM
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: I'm not talking about older guys who hit on young girls. Yeah that's gross. So you're allowed to be grossed out by they don't? How old are you? maybe you're just afraid the older guys will take your girls? ​ I think as long as consenting adults consent, all the rest of you can go fuck yourselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:45 PM
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I can see what you're saying. Some women can choose men by potential, most can't. I think the ones who can usually profit, except for cases the guy suddenly finds out his SMV is high now and wants to eat the rest of the cake
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:03 PM
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Next time I'm at the barber I'm asking for the positive feedback look
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:28 PM
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Well it's out of Alexander's followers - which means it's a lot of forever-online people. But yeah, stats seem about legit.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 07:27 PM

Oh, I thought by 'these men' you meant 'hot stylish men'. I'd say on average the more attractive people I meet are more interesting. ​ The less than average one think they're interesting because they have 'complex issues', but the truth is I don't think their issues are complex and I usually don't see what's interesting about it (beyond the fact that they tend to ignore one of the most important aspects of their issues).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:16 PM

Nah if you can make friends with them your personality doesn't suck. Though it is surprising you can't get ANY woman to have sex. I'd understand if you could only get 2-3.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:12 PM
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I mean, this is exactly what religions people tried to do.. It doesn't seem to stop girls from just secretly having sex, and with no sex-ed and thinking condom is a sin they're also leaders of teen-babies. Sure, it might bring promiscuity a notch-down, but I don't see how it's worth it.. My morality is more that of ancient nordic people - which seems to basically mean fuck away. ​ Sure, if you want a non-promiscuous girlfriend you should definitely go for it - most girls aren't that promiscuous …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:26 AM
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Who cares what they believe - if they're wrong they'll 'pay' for it by being single and unwanted by the men they want. If they're right and those 10/10 men want them then they're on their level by definition. ​ The only thing you need changing your view about is why do you think other people's beliefs are even your business? Go to the market and see what your worth really is, don't go online and try to hypothesize others' worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:13 AM
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Sounds like you have some stubborn habits of thoughts and actions. If you're willing to work to change them, I recommend getting a CBT-oriented therapist. Caveat: Most therapists suck - if the one you lands on doesn't fit, move on within 2 months of no noticeable improvement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:10 AM
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I mean.. who openly attacked your illness and called you that? or assaulted you? You mean girls? usually they're not mean if they think you're really that far from being a threat.. I found they're most mean when you're like 1-2 points away from what they'd actually want
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:06 AM
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Sounds tough, glad you found other things to do in life. What about hookers? Sometimes there'll be a very short unimpressive guy and I'll tell a friend something like "if I was him I really wouldn't know how to play this game", and it's kind of a mindfuck really. And the friend says something like "if you were him you'd have other expectations, he's done fine" - I guess it's not always fine after all. ​ EDIT: how come it's red and not black, given that... physicality is the main issue you're fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 01:03 AM
1

So you say beautiful people are always boring and ugly people are the only ones with any character?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:54 AM
1

I don't know, once you called it c0rn I couldn't keep reading
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:43 AM
1

Are you going to personally collect 10,000 votes to motivate legislators to do anything about it, or are we going to just whine about neo-norms? In my view, the more freedom you have without fearing someone will blow your head off or take you to jail, the better - that fucking guy can get another less promiscuous (or more cunning) woman and chill. ​ Also - remember he asked if he's the asshole, not if she's the asshole. he's not, he can chill and keep minding other's business
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:41 AM
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Why do we need a wall of text for this? She was within her right to sleep with others. She was honest enough to actually tell him. He has every right to NOT want to be with a seemingly promiscuous woman. He chose to exercise that right. His friends are simps, and it's their right. ​ He had no right of knowing in advance and you're not under any obligation to disclose anything not specifically asked to a stranger you know for 3 weeks - yes even if you fucked him - unless tied specifically to his …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:13 PM
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Because those who don't are usually religious. religious people binge and purge their affairs rather than get a divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:08 PM
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How is this even upvoted.. Your view can't be changed, you're biased beyond repair. That should CYV, but it won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 06:07 PM
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I'm scared verbally asking will turn me off
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:39 PM
2

Entirely after is no less of a troll than short skirt imho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:37 PM
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​ My view is consent is usually implicit, not verbal. That DOESN'T mean you can just throw arms to her breast and pussy, but it does mean small incremental escalations should be tried, and accepted or rejected (i.e small touches > more sexual touches > kiss > makeout > breast > pussy >= "wanna suck my cock?" etc) . When a step is rejected it's time to take a step back, and either try again later, talk about it or call it a night. ​ Consent looks like me going in for a kiss, she reciprocating. no…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:47 PM
2

I thought you said you weren't red-pilled ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 07:37 PM
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Sufficient evidence is court conviction, or the judge showing how he really wants to convict but can't because evidence is just a bit lacking. One thing is certain - mass social outrage and 3 women people I know nothing about (or know something which makes me think they're lying) is NOT evidence. ​ And this has nothing to do with Russell Brand, I think he's an idiot and a conspirator, and I know nothing about what he did or didn't do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 06:37 PM
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I'm not old yet (35, I hope I'm still allowed 20s), nor do I think I'll have much luck with 25y/o once I hit 50+. Of course humans regret things, but you said most women who date older men grow to regret it - that's not a trivial claim at all and you know it. Prompting women on reddit for it will be boring for those who don't mind it and a catharsis for those who had something awful happened to them resulting in pre-selection, though I imagine results would still be ok-ish. ​ As for the main poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:31 PM
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Video games are very male-dominated, might as well go on Tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 05:02 AM
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You're right, he probably shouldn't outright say that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:47 AM
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It's not the same guy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:44 AM
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lol this place is seriously unhinged
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 04:13 AM
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Shallow... you keep using that word...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 02:34 AM
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Well... You're oversimplifying to a degree which is not helpful. Yes, the ratio is skewed, but the problem is not a 1 to 1 match with women. They match with a bunch of guys, and date a bunch of guys.. I know a girl who went for 4 different dates in a week when she was seriously looking. ​ Guys:Girls ratio is bad enough, and girls are pickier a-priori and get pickier when they see the options they have on Tinder (supplied by the insane ratio) - this is what causes the effect. ​ Call it hypergamy …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:02 AM
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Straw-man, never said it's the same, and I like the backhanded insult to give me a hint about your juvenile political views. Yeah? show me the meta-analysis of the women who regret it. You don't go out with older men, let people do their own mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:04 PM
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Keep people enslaved... By making computers and having them gather online to exchange moronic ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:40 PM
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Sure, some are just plain ugly. But some (a lot) really do take bad pictures, or be lazy about their profile and use low-quality photos from 4 years ago. ​ Improving my profile helped me a lot with both quality and quantity of amtches
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:18 AM
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And if you ask an 18 y/o about the 50y/o? Vast majority will say yuck. Which means age is not the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:13 AM
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I'll be sure to let her know then, sir
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:11 AM
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I... think I'll leave agency to the 18y/o. If she doesn't understand the meaning of going out with a 50y/o at 18 she won't at 25, it's a futile game.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:22 AM
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Rebuttal? You straw-manned me, I claim non of that bullshit you said. Some women go to people's houses to have sex off Tinder, that's just life. Mostly they do it with hotter men. ​ Unless you're the slender hot blonde Icelandic type, I would probably not stutter. If you insist on sending me a photo I might send you one too, probably I'm better looking but I don't know what that would prove
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:13 AM
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I don't know why, they do it though. I see you have an issue with men and cum receptacles, that's on you. Oh, you're even wearing the women incel's movement tag
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:22 AM
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If you're 10% match rate, you can establish the meeting's agenda. If you don't want to spend time because you want to sleep with her then this is the wrong sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:15 AM
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It's not morally bad. It just interferes with young men's and older women's dating prospects and thus they protest too much. ​ EDIT: not that I know why a 22y/o would date a 50y/o, but that's not more my business than that same girl being into shit play. If that's what she likes that's what she likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:01 AM

It's not unimaginable to me, there are people like that where I live. But I had no idea Poland is like that.. are you sure? even in Krakow/Warsaw? Anyway yeah if that's the case then it's the foreigner thing.. but it seemed like they're pretty free-spirited among themselves too tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:37 AM
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I mean if you can't sit down for a 40 minute drink then settle for those going to your house I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 04:33 AM
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My main takeaway was that one woman will think you're sweet and bold, while another will think you're creepy. ^ this, enough said ​ "I can't go out this weekend because I'm feeling too anxious so I'll come across timid and creepy and not chad enough + broke + not top 20% man so I'll be invisible to all the hot sexy babes who will only sex chad sexual style and not me + feminine jawline + 5'9" + potential rejection scary + don't even wanna go out anyway" Haha this sounds like me on some days
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:05 AM
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Some women like it when I approached in bars/clubs. Sure, some of them lash out and most reject - but the ones who're into me really like it and show it. My social circle is narrow, so I'm not ever vouched.. ​ Dating apps are not easy mode - the match is just the start, and if you're not like an 8.5+ you can probably forget about inviting them straight to your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 03:03 AM
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I mean if you're hot enough to get 10% match ratio, you're fucking a lot. ​ The guy with a 2% match ratio would have to be a fucking social wizard, not 'hold a conversation'
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:49 AM
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He said unless short. Sorry to say but 5'6 is short. Over 5'9 and hot face will be good
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:46 AM
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Sounds tough, where did you approach? what context and women-tier? Did you try to be more presentable? i.e gym, cloth etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:40 AM
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Cuz people are afraid of rejection and got rejected twice when they were 15 and it means all girls want chad EXCLUSIVELY
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:38 AM
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Men always get this wrong. Women don't mind sharing high-value when they're FWB - it's not the same as fully investing in a relationship. ​ Also, if high-value occasionally fucks someone else on a business trip - it's not the same as full-blown sharing. ​ Pose the question right, get right answers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 02:36 AM

Which country is it? I mean I've been around in EE and girls seem to be open to have sex.. They seem to want you to be around (i.e not a weekend tourist) but I'd say most are open to it within 1-2 weeks or knowing you.. Haven't been to russia though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:25 PM

I believe it, but I'm not mad - if I was a good-looking woman I'd do the same. ​ I think the worse problem is denying it - a lot of women say "looks don't matter", "I never do casual sex anyway" but then add "but one time, I had sex on first date - but he was HOT". ^ That's pretty annoying ​ Anyway, I think if someone is not attractive enough for his taste - meaning he doesn't get enough women - he should try to optimize his looks & behavior, or be mad at himself/parents - I don't see why women …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:42 PM
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I think men on PPD's biggest issue is they actually care what online fat columnists say about them. Just apply your boundaries and standards and see what happens, who cares what anyone says? it's so stupid and futile. You know what's insecure? caring about what people say is insecure
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 01:44 PM
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My IQ is ~127 (I'm basing it off being top 3% in psychometric test in my country, so expect some variance - though it's pretty agreed upon I'm the smartest guy in every peer group I've been part of) I'm jewish. No, just be a little cocky in an endearing way. ​ I did stay virgin until I was 21, but after that my success with women is above average, and improved even more in last years. I can see why higher-IQ would need to jump some self-conscious hurdles which 'dumber' people can just hop over, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 02:54 PM
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I think they have an illusion only men are capable of love. Me and my sister though share a belief that men tend to be more sensitive (in some aspects)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:54 AM
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Dunno dude, I married the first girl I had sex with (I was her 3rd). In 8.5 years we never had more than a week without (very kinky and rough) sex, which I'm ashamed to admit she initiated most times (don't touch porn people). We got divorced when I was 30 cuz I decided I missed out on casual sex (do casual sex in your 20s people) ​ So while I can see why you would hypothesize this - The data disagrees, whether because this effect doesn't exist or it's too small to matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:50 AM

Actually some girls are very light in sex. I was fwb with such a girl, I was never sure if she actually came. She's very introverted and reserved outside of bed too. ​ In my case the lack of dirty and enthusiastic sex is something that would disqualify an exclusive relationship, it wouldn't be an issue. ​ But yes I think you're right that if you have experience with women and can usually attract, it's harder to get played like that. ​ One caveat: If you attract a woman who is way hotter than wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:43 AM
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Stripper who owned three houses in Reno... Is that pre-2008?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:26 AM
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What's your match rate? Yeah I can see how in new york Tinder would be an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/23 12:06 AM
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You can't say you're struggling and undateable while at the same time date a lot of people... I mean you can say it, but that would be pretty weird
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 11:53 PM
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I mean.. why do so many of your dates rate you? Also, you're preselected with dates - so 6 is weird, dump her. But yeah, those ranks sounds 7-ish, I accept.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 10:10 PM
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Nah incels would say his face his chad if he was fucking women, it's only weird AFTER you know he shoot people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:42 PM
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How do you know you're a 7?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:39 PM
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I mean.. if the guy is truly handsome, 'real effort' is pretty much chit-chat on Tinder before meetup and 10% match-rate. ​ 25% Is uber-chad, 1-2% is around average
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/23 08:39 PM

I don't get the 'not time to date, best foot forward' thing.. Who is this meme for and by who?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 05:16 PM
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Not to be too annoying but isn't your relationship exactly what RP claim? ​ Mildly above-average woman, can get casual sex from chad/lites but not a relationship, settles* for a man who can't get casual sex but who shows her love and devotion. ​ *I don't mean consciously settle in an RP 'all women are sociopaths' way - I mean settle in the sense that if you compare him to your hookups - he's objectively less attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 03:14 AM
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Assuming you're not autistic, you have an idea of what attractive guys look like and behave like. From the lifestyle, muscularity, clothing, mannerisms and personality - if I tell you to imagine an attractive guy you have a pretty good idea what that would look and feel like. Try to be more that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 02:58 AM
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"Within reach" "Regardless of their own level" ^ Choose one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 02:35 AM
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Be yourself is the most idiotic thing I've ever seen. Be what you think is attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/23 12:15 AM
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Is this even real? I mean, isn't it weird for you that your husband has a seemingly deep fantasy about being with that girl? ​ Not all girls think their ex is an idiot.. some think he's the hottest guy for them but "we just couldn't stay together" - either cuz they didn't fit values-wise or the guy just didn't want anything serious
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 01:37 AM
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Ooh yes, playing hard to get - gonna try dem Cargos!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:16 PM
1

It's not man to man post.. It's man to 6 and below. If you're 7+ your numbers game is very decent if you have any sort of social acuity. ​ Yes, if you're 5 and below I'd say the number game can only serve to have a good grip on your rating and see what you can do to improve (wardrobe/gym/height-shoes/drugs/surgery/give-up). ​ Sure, even as a 7 you're not gonna have girls lining up - but if you put in the work you're gonna be aright - + you can too improve via same methods available to everyone. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/23 06:15 PM
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I don't know about percentages, I'd guess chad is really 5%, as no way 1 in 5 is that hot.. But I'm no chad that's for sure, probably a 7-7.5. ​ Ask me again after I gain like 10lb of muscle.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:07 AM
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What does that have anything to do with anything? Also, this is delusional. My friends call me "the best fwb ever". Sure, I'm not uber-attractive, but I can attract enough to consistently have casual sex with ok girls if I want, and I'm very kind and honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 12:14 AM
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It's not irrational, the metrics are just different than most people's moral allowance. Facial attractiveness, muscularity, body-fat%, masculinity - all things people, and especially women, are reluctant to say or even acknowledge takes up most of the weight when deciding whether to give someone a chance. ​ These metrics are of course good and well - women shouldn't compromise on what they're attracted to - the lack of acknowledgement of these metrics is the problem imo. It creates a mindfuck fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 06:15 PM
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I'm actually surprised at the amount of women whose first thought is about rape and danger.. I mean you established they were gonna be respectable and friendly, but still this instinct comes up to them - Guess I need to up my comfort game.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:07 PM
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To your main point - would you be empathic towards a homeless? I mean I might think about it once or twice in my life, but otherwise I don't care to make eye contact. ​ That's how people treat low-value people, that's how women treat most men - and that's ok.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 03:01 PM
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even if moms started aborting males as they would know how hard it probably will be for most of them to stop them from suffering I mean, that would actually help. Less men -> women will be the ones competing. It's an established fact female promiscuity rises and standards lessen when male-to-female ratio is decreased.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 02:59 PM
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You missed the point, read thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:32 AM
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Ah they do? I see your evo-psych paper is writing itself
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 04:31 AM
2

Since steak if tasty why not just stick with steak as it is really good opposed to having to go through a whole bunch of foods?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:28 PM

For me pretty much same position (except phase still ongoing), missing for me was variety and feeling wanted by other girls. Actually sex itself was great, and still ties for best place 5 years after ending. ​ I'm 5 years in hoe phase though, with no plan of leaving any time soon - so maybe I'm not the one to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:27 PM
1

So you had an FFFM with college students? Is there any reason to suspect you're not LARPing PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:14 PM
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Never had a girl with libido problems, mostly sex was awesome. Women RARELY approach me (I think last time was more than a year ago - but I don't go out much these days, still RARELY). I don't think a girl who's above-average has a reason to show me off to her friends, I mean I look nice but not showoff nice. ​ Non of your type matches me, you're ruined.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 10:05 PM
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I mean.. if you're underweight or overweight and become athletic - that's a big change in how girls respond.. Sure, if you're not extremely hot girls aren't going to be running over to you and hugging you - but if you're attractive they'll often still accept your advances when *you* initiate. ​ This post can be very blackpilling for guys without experience - but it's mostly irrelevant - a lot of guys can look 7+ with the right lifestyle/clothing/gym, and that's enough to be approaching most girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 12:35 AM
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It's the same red flag as a woman who's only had casual sex. It's not unattractive, it's just a lot harder to trust and want to have a relationship with. ​ Probably you should say you've dated one girl for a year, that'll make you seem like you can at maintain a semblance of a relationship. Maybe even confess she didn't exist after some time if the relationship goes well - say you were embarrassed that you only had casual sex (it seems like you are anyway). ​ Next
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:07 PM
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All of my partners but 1 were casual sex, none were treated as fleshlight unless they specifically asked for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:40 PM
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For you sex is better with those things. Others like the thrill of being wanted for a night of adventurous sex - maybe especially people who're not entirely confident they would be able to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:39 PM
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^ This girl knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:36 PM

but the 'lonely guys' don't really aim for that -- they have a problem with attracting anyone at all, they are seen as perpetual 'besties' No hot girl would have an ugly bestie. If you're close friends with girls you can probably at least have a mid-girlfriend. In other words average is more than enough to get a girlfriend, even if you have to be more impressive when courting. ​ I don't think not being able to casually sleep with girls is an invalid concern though, but that's for another post.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:33 PM
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It's a universal, but most girls are fine with 5'11-6'0. He will need to court a bit more than 6'4 probably. ​ I mean, 3 dates is still courting
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:37 PM
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I might send a message to a past partner who I Believe is single, but wouldn't say it's vigorous - a simple one-time what's up let's meet ​ But yeah - I know what you mean, some guys don't handle their emotions well
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 04:35 PM
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Oh, you mean one night stand. Casual sex can be multiple times.. I mean I've had a casual thing with a girl for 2.5 years - met weekly and other than that we would talk once a week to confirm the meet. But yeah I agree, if you want casual it's better to not seem like you're gonna take up a lot of her time & energy, especially if she's looking for something long-term while you're at it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:56 PM
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Of course she's lying, but she also has an image to maintain - especially if she wants you long-term. I've had casual sex (meaning they knew it was casual) with girls who initially wanted long-term, but even they waited 3 dates a lot of the time. I don't think if I asked that question on first date they'd necessarily say yes, and it wouldn't be cuz they're not physically attracted. ​ I'd love it if there was a verbal way to quickly find out, but unless you're like a 9 I think a lot of girls woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:53 PM
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Flexible, yes. Highly - doubtful. Maybe if you mean preferences - I mean I prefer a 9, but I'd fuck a 6. But a 9 is not standard, it's above-standards. ​ Unless rate yourself a 5 or something, I don't know any hot woman who wouldn't occasionally sleep with a 7 if personality+context allow it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:45 PM
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You're missing the point - they're duping a woman who seeks a relationship for sex, and fuck her casually - these guys don't think they're hot enough for on-purpose casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:21 PM

I'm not. But "Women would prefer that all men's confidence were proportional to how attractive they found them." ​ They find you less attractive when you're unconfident - you can't know how attractive you are if you don't consistently act confident and try.. There's a reason I sometimes act socially-anxious - it is possible to feel unattractive without it being true, I think a lot of people do that to themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 10:19 PM
0

So why do you have flings with average-looking guys? Wouldn't you rather they be... hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:11 PM
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Relationships, end-up. ​ Not casual-sex, fun, or early 20s. ​ Average guys tend to lack in the sex-for-fun department
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:10 PM
1

That's actually a great answer. What did the other friends think?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 09:05 PM
2

Because the hot guys won't commit to a girl who's a 6.5-7.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:51 PM
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Attractive is a wide range - a lot of attractive guys need to court
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:50 PM
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I mean if he's really hot he's got a 26y/o waiting.. But sure, if top 20% is hot then yeah can do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:48 PM
1

What does letting her go mean
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:46 PM
1

Well put
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:45 PM
1

He specifically asked about physical attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:45 PM
4

If that's the case you're gonna stay a virgin for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:45 PM
4

She'll say "no cuz I don't do casual sex"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:43 PM
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I think some women's standards for casual are higher than their LTR standards (regarding looks). Even the ones who "don't do" casual sex have this story about that one time "but he was REALLY hot"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:42 PM
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Men lie about their intentions all the time for sex "Yes, I'm looking for something serious, want to be a father". I don't do it cuz I want her lust, not her thinking she's cutting some relationship deal. ​ But I have friends who do it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:41 PM
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I think with somewhat hot girls who have no issue getting relationships, their standards as to men's looks are about the same casual or dating (but pretty high nonetheless), whereas girls who have issues locking down partners might settle looks for a relationship but not for casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 08:39 PM
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I don’t think they don’t care, it’s really less acceptable. It used to be an official DSM disorder if a guy wanted to get aesthetic surgery
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:33 AM
3

Well played sir
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:32 AM
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So the question really is... do experienced women resent inexperienced men wanting only inexperienced women? Yes. ​ It has nothing with women (experienced or not) resenting inexperienced men altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 11:39 PM
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Well, I do. I don't mean that you should care - just that I can relate - it's very hard to let go of your so-called "ego" and let yourself crash and burn. Sometimes I manage to get myself to do it with honestly surprising results - most times nope. I imagine your mindset around this issue is healthier/more-productive than mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 04:20 AM
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How do you see disinterest? Most girls I've made out with in clubs I couldn't get to make eye contact with me before I approached and said something/waved my hand. ​ Some later said they did see me before I approached, but either I don't read the room or they're very good at hiding their looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 11:38 PM
7

Socialization is real, be shy and you got nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 10:14 PM
2

Of course it's abnormal - it's low.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:05 PM
1

Au contraire. Sex doesn't equal dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:05 PM
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I don't know dude, When I act meekly and socially-anxious - I get nothing - 0. When I act with confidence and take action - some women are attracted, some are even VERY attracted. Sure, if you're unattractive it will be perceived as lack of self-awareness. Sure, SOME women probably think I don't look good enough to be confident - but others are surprised to hear I'm sometimes unconfident. ​ Thing is, your friend is right - if you don't try to act confident you won't know if you're attractive, cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 04:41 PM
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She asked about the career ladies, why they get the bad sex box. For comparison - I dated a successful accountant - tied best sex with my myth-ex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:35 AM
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Yup
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 04:13 AM
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So you're talking about average men who for some reason have seriously lower-than-average sexual experience. There's a why question begging to be asked. ​ Anyway, I first had sex when I was 21 with a girl who had been with 2 guys - I told her I was a virgin. She was surprised, we dated for 9 years - so there's your case, she didn't care. Sure, if you're 29 and a virgin it's gonna ring some bells - but shouldn't it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:49 AM
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So if someone heard and agreed with 1 red-pill concept, it means he agrees with everything and is to be avoided? In that case you should avoid all evolutionary-psych department, cuz some (some, read that again - some) red-pill concepts are compatible with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:36 PM
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"Girls don't care about looks that much". I've known enough women who say that. Girls on TV still say that. ​ You're talking about cum stains yet you're a virgin. ​ Now, I'm not for red-pill, but (classical) red-pill is a lot reality compatible than blue-pill. ​ In my view people do as people do, as was evolutionary sensible for them to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:34 PM
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They're repulsed by unattractive men (who, not surprisingly, are inexperienced). Take a hot guy 26y/o, have him tell a girl he's a virgin and she'll laugh in disbelief. Have a nice story about it and she'll be thrilled to be your first. ​ Q.E.D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:30 PM
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Oh I'm sorry for confusing - it says right in the title - this is just simulated points with correlation @ .4 . But studies I've seen regarding PA assortativeness show no more than .45, so it would be about the same.. Sure, you'd have the mean be at 7 - but the spread is so wide it has almost no bearing on your actual results IRL.. I guess at the ends it'd be more obvious - if you're a 3 you're getting nothing, if you're a 10 you're probably dating very high. But 5-6-7 - they're all over the pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 04:28 PM
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Also, your own perception of your "quality" or mate value is likely SUPER OFF and what you actually can attract is a better hint at what your value is, than what you think you should be getting or who is "in your league". I agree of course that preconceptions worth.. not even zero - they're of negative value. That's exactly why I emphasized taking action - after some time you'll have a distribution of what you're getting - that's your mate value distribution given your current lifestyle, style, …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 06:38 PM
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People who sacrifice for humanity make me sick tbh. I don't believe them and I think they're the most psychopathic individuals I know
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:41 PM
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Do you have siblings? Do they have children?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:41 PM
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P.S I am nihilistic. So don’t believe any life meaning other than biological reproduction. A true nihilist wouldn't call biological reproduction meaning. Biological reproduction is what biologic organisms *tend* to do. It's not about meaning - they just wouldn't be here if they wouldn't do it. ​ What do you mean you can't do that - I thought you said you just don't want to? ​ If I couldn't, I'd feel bad. But if I just didn't want it.. I'd just not want it. ​ Another thing - reproduction didn't n…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:39 PM
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I don't know if the Ivory-Tower pov always captures the issue, especially when using self-reports and lab-scenarios. Surely counting on internet meme is not better, but in a subject where one's experience is eventually what matters, I presume optimizing your lifestyle, looks, sociability and taking statistically-significant action is much better than counting on research when trying to decide which kind of girl you should be getting. Not to mention the fact that most people can't even derive the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:09 PM
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I'm.. not sure the CLT is the issue here.. They just see those anomalies, and report them as if they're normal - and you have availability bias - no one is going online saying "I just saw a couple where both were hot". ​ A girl with a given hotness level will pair-up with a guy of about the same hotness level ON AVERAGE - there's a distribution around her hotness and guys of all kinds of attraction levels will pair up with a girl of her caliber - it's just that most of them will be around her le…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 10:03 PM
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That's crazy, first time I'm hearing about this. Just read 2-3k are arrested for that yearly, I wonder why Japan has this so prevalently
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 09:26 PM
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If you're ugly nothing will work. Vast majority aren't ugly. If you're average you'll get laid - sometimes ok women, sometimes less, the odd hot one - but if you put in the effort you'll be able to get laid. Above average and you can get nice results IF you put in the effort. very Attractive - well, we know what happens there
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:26 PM
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Of course they face rejections.. Question is if they can get 3% of them to kiss/have sex. Not everyone needs to be a player, it's ok to just have sex sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:24 PM
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Why would he do the same spiel? he knows he has the goods, he can show you if you'll listen. ​ And yes, fuckboys are a dime a dozen, that's why girls sometimes take it slow even if they're attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:22 PM
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Daily? Well that's Cartagena level - why isn't there more punishment for it? is it just acceptable? ​ EDIT: When I say daily I mean to a specific person who's not living in the worst part of town - not daily as in "it happens somewhere in the city"
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:21 PM
2

Notice the usually part? I've been grabbed too
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:20 PM
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Men usually don't go grabbing people. It happens, but it's not an everyday experience if she lives anywhere half-decent. And if she doesn't - well you've seen what happens in Cartagena
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:24 AM
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You're ALMOST right. This is why female feel so adverse to being approached - by low-value (read: unattractive) men. Sure, you're getting set-off by the homeless, beggars and weirdos. But what if an tall good-looking American, well-dressed businessman approached you? I bet you'll have some time to listen to him, wouldn't you? ​ So yes, you're right - women who're constantly approached by low-tier men develop an ick to men approaching - but if/when they're approached by hot guys that whole thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 12:23 AM
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Oh I know exactly what he did. He approached a higher-than-average looking woman while being average. ​ That can land you in jail in some places, he's lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:09 PM
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lol? I don't know about normal, but attractive people do exactly that. Either that or Tinder - but then you actually need to take good pics too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:06 PM
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I really don't think it's most men. Most of the guys I know who're unsuccessful sit at their home and whine about women liking bad boys, money or they just whine about themselves. When I'm least successful is when I'm least approaching and responding on Tinder. Give me 2 weeks without porn and like magic a lay appears - I find it very hard to deal with fear of approaching when not horny enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:05 PM
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tbh I've been surprised by good* responses (read: makeouts) from women who seemed to not be aware I exist before I approached them. I wouldn't advise waiting for the look, it doesn't happen often enough and it's sometimes too subtle to notice. ​ *obviously, expect mostly rejections, but it's sometimes worth it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 11:02 PM
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I still don't get it.. Like.. they lick it? I got licked a lot, still feel ugly sometimes don't worry.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 10:57 PM
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I agreed with everything until that part: - I would make sure they could see me texting my other plates if we were cuddling ​ For one, that's offensive even for my taste (I've been banned for 30 days here once, my taste is pretty flexible). But the worse thing is - even girls who knowingly dated (read: fucked) me while I dated others would react very badly if I did something like that, it's outright disrespectful. I'd react the same, even if she was fwb. This leads me to conclude the girl(s) in …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 01:42 PM
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I'd say she's about average. Average is not unattractive in women, I'd say average men are unattractive though. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 11:47 PM
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cares deeply about those within her ‘circle of intimacy’. Those outside her circle are mostly invisible. She will feel some level of empathy for any member of the sisterhood, but the average guy doesn't exist on her radar. The same could be said about me, I'm a guy. Why would you care about someone you have no stakes with? I mean beyond some vague morality you've been fed to at kindergarten.
/r/TheRedPill02/09/23 07:45 AM
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That the guy won't be shamed? By who? he's not supposed to go on his Facebook page and announce it, just pick the woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 07:42 AM
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It's kinda ironic, but it's realistic, and he won't be shamed anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 04:07 AM
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I don't think anyone SHOULD be shamed, I just find it funny when it's obviously not gonna happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 03:13 AM
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Why would anyone be shamed for his standards? I mean I can see how it's funny if there's no way his standards can be met - i.e a 28 y/o virgin (read: probably unattractive) man looking for a low-count pretty woman - good luck. But tbh short women can get pretty tall men if they're hot enough or if they relax demand for some other features - so that's just preference, not funny. OTOH a 6 woman looking for a 666 man - now that's funny
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 02:24 AM
1

Original RP content was about teaching guys about women's behavior and wants so that guys can emulate said behavior and change themselves to accommodate those wants. Not the wants of a specific girl the guy is "in love" with - wants of girls in general. Whether their original theory of girls' behaviors and wants is correct or not - it was about teaching guys to try and be an attractive man, for whatever purpose the guy wants to be attractive. Now? I don't even know wtf they're doing.. just a whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:21 AM
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If you mean have sex with 1-3 lifetime partners, ending up with someone who wanted others but saw you as the stable available option and (hopefully) learned to love you - yeah, no struggle there. Anything extra and it's a struggle for the average guy - random hookups with pretty girls, being sought after with lust, settling down when you're really ready and not by default, and to a woman who knows you CHOSE her out of many options, and not just settled as well - yeah, good luck. ​ Most people ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 01:12 AM
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M4F I wouldn't, but sometimes I go for sex if I'm in a low season - usually I regret it and have to end it after 1-2 encounters. If she's very mildly overweight it's fine, if you can see her skin sagging it's over. No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 08:14 AM
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It's a constant battle to upgrade your looks so 'yes' will be more common, and upgrade your behavior so that 'maybe' turns into yes faster and with more probability. ​ Of course you need to not fuck up the yes - but that's very basic "don't be socially inept and anxious" stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 04:48 AM
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What do you mean it's NOT their job? Technically nothing is their job except keeping you alive and keeping some minor state laws. ​ Don't worry, I'll teach my son how to attract partners. People looking for someone to blame is not my department
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 02:43 AM
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You'd think body-positivity is catering to women. It's catering to thin women - they have less competition, while men have less supply of viable women. ​ A double win for thin/hot women. ​ Look at the consequences, not at the superficial message
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 04:05 PM
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Guys who strike out with women don't invest in those women - they strike-out. Those women (if the guy is not a total simp) got around 0 value from him. ​ Girls who strike out for relationship invested a lot - kinky fast sex, emotional turmoil, time - Things she would not do with the guy she settled for. ​ Of course, if he did get those experiences with her (maybe minus turmoil) then I don't see where the settling is and all is well.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:22 AM
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It's not 'they' - it's the media. Most women don't give a shit about toxic masculinity or bs like this, unless you're in very specific circles in new york or cali
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:16 AM
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Yeah I don't mind how she cums, but if she can cum vaginally with others and not with me that would be pretty annoying I think. ​ I had a girl who claimed she could cum vaginally, and could only cum from clit with me - she said maybe it's cuz we're fwb and she felt weird about it cuz she only had bf/gf sex. I didn't think much of it and sex was very good and kinky. Anyway after like 4 months she started cumming easily vaginally with me, I don't know if I changed anything about what I did. Was ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:05 AM
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Some women just touch themselves during PIV... if they don't the man can do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:53 AM
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I don't get the casual hookups meaning the man doesn't care, either about the woman or about her orgasming.. I always care she enjoys (and orgasms if possible), and I don't think I ever had sex with someone I really didn't care about (including ONS with a tourist I met at 4am). ​ Sure, I heard about guys not caring - I just don't get it.. If I wouldn't care I think masturbation would be more fun tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:33 AM
1

Why pay if you get no matches? It doesn't make sense. You pay when you have matches but want more volume.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:29 AM
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It's not a "you guys" issue - it's a "why are you talking to idiots" issue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 05:19 AM
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I think 70 vs 30 is WAY overstating it. Where's the source? I think the difference is like 20% at most
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:33 PM
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I know at least one woman who said something similar. "He's not my type, but he was so cute". ​ She was gonna end it after 1st date but he was cute on text or something. ​ Sure enough, she took her time with sex - and I think they're together nowdays. ​ I don't have enough knowledge to know if she now considers herself attracted to him - but in my book that's a relationship I would NEVER want to be a part of. ​ But it's ok, I escalate pretty fast so a woman who's not attracted to me will probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:57 PM
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It's true in that SOME women do it. The red pill takes a subset of women (and different subsets for different scenarios at that), and builds a monolith of women that encapsulates all 'lame' women behaviors. ​ - Saying "I never have sex on 1st" with one guy while going to Chad's house after 30 minutes on Tinder - Fucking Chad while young but marrying Beta when stakes become high (maybe even cheating) - Withholding sex from bf to get other benefits. ​ Some women do this some of the time, even fewe…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 06:51 PM
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This thread is basically a ban bait as anything by men about sexualizing minors is against reddit TOS, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 03:11 PM
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I’m sorry it’s too long, But I’ll respond to the gist. Notice I said I want to increase the rate of it being on 1st, and being more consistent at it. Obviously some girls are just not gonna do it, not gonna do it that day cuz of period, or some other reason. This is about measuring me, not the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:50 AM

lol I don't know, but he had a good business going back then so I don't think that was an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:52 AM
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I sometimes have sex on first date - I take it as meaning the girl is very attracted to me. Though sometimes it just means the girl was horny that day and I was in her way. That's why consistency matters - if it happens more it means I've gotten more attractive. If I expect ONS to give me compliments.. when? When first meeting? Maybe, if she's the complimenting type or she thinks I'm super hot.. Or if the sex was super hot and she's one to talk about sex she just had. I wouldn't say I expect it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:49 AM
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Handsome is distant enough from average to "always get told", above-average is just ok, not unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 05:01 PM
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Sex right from the get go was “fine” but she’s never noticeably into you on a superficial level, at least not like she’s been into other men before. Say no more. Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:35 PM
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I'll give you both what I think and what happens irl. No noticeable feedback from exes, My facial structure is pretty attractive, but my nose, and specifically nose/jaw combo is very annoying to me - probably like a 7, depends who you ask - any self-esteem issues I have are hanging around there. I'm pretty fit and have an attractive body shape but muscle-mass is a bit on the small side (I'm 68kg@180cm - leg-day??) - probably will be attended to in a year with some good diet/gym/sleep discipline.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 04:28 PM
1

The hottest girls I've made out with were in clubs (apart from my ex who I met at work)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:50 PM
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My sister met her husband at a night club, he moved in after 3 weeks - so there's that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 03:46 PM
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If you're always told that, you're not above-average - you're handsome.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:58 PM
1

Ok, can relate. I don't think she was bpd, but yeah there were volatile ups and downs.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 09:54 PM
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If you are a man who expresses his sexuality freely (and you should) - some women, some of the time, are going to find you creepy. It’s simply unavoidable. No matter how cool, rich, good-looking and charming you are, at some point, somewhere, a woman is going to be creeped out by you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:34 PM
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What if she just fucks 10/10 until 27 and then marries the 7, child-free?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:24 PM
1

Who are those men? Not me.. Not most I know... ​ You're living in a sitcom
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:23 PM
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Why... did you marry a crazy woman and had a kid with a bpd woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:14 PM
4

Gonna get looked at
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:50 AM
1

I don't talk, I don't look - people think I'm extroverted :(
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:23 AM
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lol your responses are funny pretty much the opposite of other girls here though - you think you're out of norm?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:21 AM
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How would you know about an assstare?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:20 AM
2

Stay online, it's nice and cozy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:18 AM
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How much time is piece of meat feeling? Seriously asking.. or is it the intensity along with the fact you already 'showed him you saw him looking'?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:14 AM
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What if I told you Society doesn't exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:07 AM
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It is.. no trouble? I mean you're one case.. would you say that's true on average?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:50 AM
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"Last year, research by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control found that nearly a third of children with autism are severely overweight, compared to 13 percent of typically developing children. " For starters
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 12:49 AM
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