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As somebody who's tried both, I've come to the conclusion that most women don't even read your profile before responding. They'll look for something in the message that grabs their attention, check the picture really quick, and decide if you're worth getting back to. Also, shot-gunning emails has about the same failure rate as actually putting forth any effort, but you're putting out more messages, and you're not putting nearly as much time/effort into each one, so it doesn't bug as much when yo…
/r/MensRights02/11/14 12:38 AM
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I can't claim that the skit didn't offend me, and that probably had an influence in not finding it funny. However, they have every right to air whatever garbage they want to air, no matter how funny or unfunny I may happen to find it. Which is the difference between the MRM and Feminism. We may find this shit offensive, but we're going to use it as a springboard for actual discussion, not to try to get stuff pulled off the air.
/r/MensRights12/03/14 04:40 AM
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As much as the person you responded to is a moron, you should really learn your idioms. To beat somebody over the head is to take something they said/did that was either stupid or proven wrong and to remind them over it over and over and over and over again. "Alright, I get it! Stop beating me over the head with it!"
/r/MensRights01/11/13 12:57 AM
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It's an important distinction to make when you're looking at rape cases. Especially when you get into cases like rape accusations against exes. Whether somebody wants to have sex or not is far harder to prove than whether they agreed to do it.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 01:18 AM
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Consent is simply willingly going along with something. If I don't particularly want to have sex (maybe I have a headache, maybe I'm feeling a little nauseated, maybe I'm just tired), but I agree to it anyway, I've still given consent.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 01:00 AM
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Sex you don't want is only rape if you didn't consent. Consent isn't the same thing as desire.
/r/MensRights05/09/13 12:48 AM
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I didn't confuse anything. I just happen to believe that equality doesn't mean treating everybody equally shitty.
/r/MensRights01/09/13 01:10 AM
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Since the government creates the "criminal code", yes I do mean the government. It's incredible that you have such a malleable moral stance. Being able to change your opinion about the age of consent simply by crossing over into a different state must be liberating. And moving to a different country! If I moved to, say, Japan... being perfectly legal to fuck 13-year-olds would be difficult to integrate into my moral compass, I know that. I salute you for your flexibility, sir!
/r/MensRights31/08/13 03:47 PM
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/r/MensRights30/08/13 11:14 PM
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Which percentages? Which raw numbers? As you may be aware, it is easy to manipulate percentages, and percentages can even be misleading. If 75% of teachers are female, then it would be understandable that 75% of teachers who are having sex with their students are also female. On the other hand, if we find out that significantly more than 75% are female, then we can address it as a gender-related problem. Similarly, if significantly less are female, we can address it as a gender-related problem. …
/r/MensRights30/08/13 07:03 PM
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There are. But even the feminists who admit to the gender symmetry (which are few) refuse to let it lay there. They have to make women out to be the bigger victims, so they start shouting how "Well, women get hurt worse in DV cases than men, and more women are killed!" (which actually is true). And they use this logic to claim that it's more important that we focus on female victims of DV than male victims. Claiming that this is somehow a gender-related problem in schools just because there are …
/r/MensRights30/08/13 05:59 PM
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He's trying to make the claim that no abuse of power or manipulation occured, despite the fact she was 14 and killed herself thereafter. She killed herself 3 years afterward. She was also described as "troubled" before any of this ever went down. Correlation =\= causation, and blaming her suicide on their sexual relationship is not only disingenuous, but outright manipulative. Perhaps it could be a poignant viewpoint, but the specific case doesn't do anything for him but underline the fact that …
/r/MensRights30/08/13 05:16 PM
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That's the same logic that feminists use to ignore male rape and DV victims, you know.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 05:13 PM
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The problem with basing your morals on what is or isn't legal is that you allow the government to dictate what you believe to be right or wrong. For the record, the actual sentencing is a drop in the bucket compared to the complete and utter destruction of a person's livelihood once this sort of thing hits the news.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 05:08 PM
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That has to do with the sheer amount of work involved in women's hair styles. Edit: Downvoted for the truth. Only on Reddit.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 05:01 PM
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This doesn't work. The more women that attend, the more guys that will show up, the more money they'll make on selling alcohol. This doesn't happen when you change genders to ethnicities.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:57 PM
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The idea behind it, I believe is, that if more women attempt suicide (even if more men succeed), that means that feminists can claim it as a women's issue.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:55 PM
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No, it would, by definition, be statutory rape.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:47 PM
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Women are more likely to be teachers, period. When more than 3/4 of teachers are female, it's rather likely that 3/4 of teachers that have sex with their students are also going to be female. Comparing raw numbers is incredibly stupid, you have to compare the percentages.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:45 PM
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I have to link this, just because it so perfectly illustrates what's wrong with this mindset.
/r/MensRights30/08/13 04:39 PM
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lol ok buddy.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 11:11 PM
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So it was sexual harassment. And he didn't want it. if he didn't want her grabbing his ass, why would he want to grab hers? This has literally nothing to do with my statement, since I wasn't actually referring to that specific incident, as clearly indicated by my post. If you're going to try to argue something I've said, at least do so without shifting the goalposts. That opens up more shit. Say she then grabs his crotch. Congratulations, now that you grabbed her ass, you now wanted it. At least…
/r/MensRights08/08/13 10:06 PM
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I don't see any reason to get violent if just using your words is enough to diffuse a situation. It's demeaning, and has a chance of escalating thing unnecessarily.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 09:59 PM
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And this is where "implied consent" comes into play. Grabbing a random girl's ass = No Consent Grabbing a girl's ass after she grabbed yours = Implied Consent She's already opened the door for retaliation by invading your boundaries. As long as you're OK with her actions (making it not harassment, since harassment involves unwanted contact), then returning the favor is well within the bounds of implied consent.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 09:52 PM
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They're about as bad as the feminists these days. Don't know why I visit this sub anymore. It used to stand for pragmatism and logic and reasonable discourse. Now it's just a place for guys to get indignant and pissed off.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 09:48 PM
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The problem with your line of thinking is that you actually believe "rape culture" is a thing that exists.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 08:49 PM
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Upvote for critical thinking skills. Rarely ever see that on this board anymore.
/r/MensRights08/08/13 08:44 PM
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The title of the post is the title of the video. If the post title is misleading, it's only because the video title is misleading. That said, while I agree that there's nothing here that shows that she's a feminist, it's really a moot point. Feminist dogma claims that this sort of behavior simply doesn't happen, or doesn't matter (Women don't make false accusations! When women hit, it doesn't hurt!). So yes, she may not be a feminist, but she's definitely benefiting from the mainstream social op…
/r/MensRights08/08/13 08:26 PM
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Is there... is there porn for this sort of thing? >.>
/r/MensRights05/08/13 03:52 PM
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I'm not denying any of that. However, I am saying that we shouldn't be forming up a witch hunt over this just because "well, it would be worse if a man did it!" I don't believe in that eye for an eye garbage. Personally, I'd rather see our entire legal system revamped to put a stronger emphasis on mental health and reform, rather than punishment, but I know that's just a pipe dream. But that doesn't mean that I have to pick up my torch and pitchfork and join the mob who's screaming for blood.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 01:01 AM
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The lowest age of consent in the US is 16. But I'm talking about practical consent, not legal consent.
/r/MensRights04/08/13 12:05 AM
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If you think that my stance has anything to do with a lack of knowledge, then you missed my point entirely.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 10:05 PM
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Your concern is dully noted, have a nice day! :)
/r/MensRights03/08/13 04:51 PM
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I am done :)
/r/MensRights03/08/13 04:26 PM
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Thank you, feminist, your input into this discussion is much appreciate. :)
/r/MensRights03/08/13 04:22 PM
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And now I'm done. Sorry, I don't argue with people who resort to strawmen. I make it a point not to debate with that sort of intellectual dishonesty. Have a nice day! :)
/r/MensRights03/08/13 03:09 PM
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He/she believes that even very young boys want sex constantly and can be willing and responsible participants in sex acts with an adult. BZZZT wrong. Try again. I believe that many teenagers who have already reached puberty can, and will, jump at any chance they can to try having sex for themselves, and it's in our best interest as a country to separate these cases from cases of actual rape, where a minor was manipulated into doing something they didn't actually want to do. Source: I actually re…
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:20 PM
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Am I the only one who read this story and thought, "Put on your big girl panties and stop fucking crying"? A guy that's kinda tipsy thinks he's being amusing, then the woman goes all She-Hulk on him for it, so he decided to turn into a total dick. This entire situation was a matter of two people overreacting to each other. And no, it's nobody's job to fucking step in and "protect" you from some drunken idiot saying stupid, bigoted shit.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:28 AM
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I'm sure they thought they could "raise them to not be rapists." And then were super disappointed when you grew up and decided to just go a-rapin' about town, despite their best wishes. You monster.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:19 AM
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Until we find out more about the case, all we know is that what happened was illegal. Whether or not it was consensual is up in the air with so little to go on. INB4: "She's a pedophile, stop defending her."
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:13 AM
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I'm going to get downvoted to hell and back for this, but... One of her victims wrote a statement that was read to the court, according to NBC 4. It read: 'Holding all this in as a child forced me to grow up in ways I never wanted to. She took the things that I loved most and ripped them out of my life.' The victim added in his statement: 'I will never know what could have been.' That doesn't sound like a statement a teenager wrote. That sounds like something that was prepped by a teenager's par…
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:10 AM
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No, murder is definitely worse. Don't make light of peoples' lives by jumping on the, "They'd be better off dead," bandwagon that feminism started.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:07 AM
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Because unlike feminism, the Men's Rights Movement is focused on integrity, precision, and equality. This isn't about anybody's feelz, it's about making sure that truth will out, and not getting so swept up in hatred and paranoia that we lose sight of our desire to see men treated fairly. As I've said many times before, you create equality by making sure everybody is treated like human beings, not by making sure everybody is burned at the stake.
/r/MensRights03/08/13 02:06 AM
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Which is equally stupid.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:05 PM
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True, she's just presenting her opinion as a gamer. I'm just more than a little annoyed with her, because the last time I tried to have an actual conversation with her about one of her opinion videos, she got super defensive, and the white knight squad came galloping to her rescue.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 04:01 PM
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Gaming discussions center around consoles, PC gaming, dedicated handhelds, and the full priced and indie games that come from those markets. Thus, the "core" gaming audience. Mobile and facebook games get dismissed, because most of them are free or a buck a piece, which means that they're not getting played by dedicated gamers. They're getting played mostly by people who want something to fiddle with their phone to kill a few minutes of downtime. The demographics are completely different and hav…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 08:01 AM
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As much as I respect Kitetales' rights to her opinions, I always feel like she's the sort of personality who speaks without doing any research on the topic. "I have an opinion and I should be heard!" but then takes offense when you try to point out a problem with her logic/reasoning/information. Sorry, I don't mean to derail the thread or anything. I just get a little ranty when she comes up. Everybody seems to love her videos, and she annoys the shit out of me lol.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:54 AM
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I couldn't watch more than 10 minutes of this crap. Which is sad, because I actually watched the previous two videos all the way through. Her assertion that men and women being treated the exact same way in video games isn't actually the same, because history is a load of bullshit. As it is, Anita wouldn't know history if it snuck up on her and bit her in the ass. So it doesn't surprise me that she's trying to use her little feminist version of history to femsplain why women have the monopoly of…
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:38 AM
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Just because it happens all the time doesn't mean it is good. Similarly, just because it happens all the time doesn't mean it's bad. Tropes are neither good nor bad, they're simply tools to create a narrative. How they're used is far more important. Sadly, nobody wants to have that conversation. They just want to say, "women having to be saved is bad," and expect everybody to just accept it at face value.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:33 AM
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Yeah, I noticed that too. I haven't updated my RES tags in a while, but there are way too many feminist arguments that are voted to the top to just be a coincidence.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:31 AM
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I wish I could raise $160k to rip off LP videos and read straight from tvtropes...
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:30 AM
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Seriously, this woman got DEATH THREATS during the kickstarter for even bringing up the idea that these discussions could be made. The Penny Arcade guys got death threats because one of them said, "men have penises and women have vaginas." If you can't deal with the trolls, you shouldn't be making waves on the internet.
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:26 AM
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Who let the trolls in?
/r/MensRights02/08/13 07:19 AM
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Your "reasoning" is bullshit. "You either agree with me, or you think that people should get to rape children," is not a cogent argument. It's a form of begging the question, and you're also straw-manning to hell.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 05:16 PM
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I purposely didn't edit it, because I wanted whoever read this to follow the whole conversation. Didn't want to delete what I posted and have people be all, "What the fuck, these posts don't go together."
/r/MensRights01/08/13 04:45 PM
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Ah! The old, "The law is the word of god, handed down to us from the heavens, and should be followed to the letter, no matter how absurd," excuse. Splendid.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 04:43 PM
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You could just politely correct the mistake and not assume that it was malicious? I know it seems like a radical concept, but I promise you that it works.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 04:15 PM
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Do you always base your idea of criminality on the laws of your little bubble of a world, or do you ever think about how there's a difference between law and morality?
/r/MensRights01/08/13 04:14 PM
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Actually it's very well established indeed that raping underage children harms them. In fact that's one of the reasons it's illegal. Then it's a good thing she didn't rape him, and it was actually consensual sex, huh?
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:47 PM
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After following a link from the original article, I see now that the quote is from an ex-student who is currently 23, who was 17 at the time of his "victimization." I apologize for the mistake and the bad information. However, I don't appreciate being called a liar. Don't be a dick.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:27 PM
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But he's going to have to deal with a whole mess of psychological issues when he hits puberty and afterwards. And that is a fact. ... I don't think you know what puberty means. But he's going to have to deal with a whole mess of psychological issues when he hits puberty and afterwards. And that is a fact. No, it's not a fact. It's an assumption. If he doesn't feel victimized, who the fuck are you to tell him that he should? Mental health isn't about telling somebody that they should feel bad ove…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:24 PM
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The one time having a giant schlong works against you :P
/r/MensRights01/08/13 05:33 AM
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When nobody is hurt and everybody enjoyed themselves, there should be no criminality to be found. I just have a problem with the idea that two people can have consensual sex, but one of them gets tossed in jail over it, on a technicality.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:53 AM
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14 is legal in some countries. And the kid clearly stated: "I didn't feel like a victim; I'm not scarred for life or anything," Michael Cooper told NBC4 earlier this month. "To be honest, I had a good time when it was going on." If nobody got hurt, and everybody enjoyed themselves, then who's to say it should be a crime? When the only damage done is the psychological trauma of the parents and the media raking the students over the coal, insisting that he has to feel violated... that says a lot f…
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:51 AM
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I didn't say whether it was right or wrong, but I'm a firm believer that this sort of shit should be handled outside the legal system. Abusing your position of authority should be punished by losing that authority, not by getting tossed in jail.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 03:00 AM
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Had to scroll over halfway down the page to find a comment without the sentiment of "lynch the bitch, that's what they'd do to us men!" This is why I rarely come to this sub anymore. Fucking tired of all the "eye for an eye" garbage on here. It's like the male version of feminism up in here these days.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:34 AM
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What makes it even worse is that it's actually worse than men than for women, because they have a narrower urethra.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:24 AM
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From the article: "I didn't feel like a victim; I'm not scarred for life or anything," Michael Cooper told NBC4 earlier this month. "To be honest, I had a good time when it was going on." So yeah, he did want it. It doesn't excuse the fact that fucking your students is disgusting and should get her teaching license revoked, permanently, but there's no need to paint him as a helpless little victim that's emotionally and psychologically scarred from the act.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:15 AM
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but I take offense to people implying that it is somehow the child's fault. I don't. 16 is legally old enough to drive a car and hold a job. There's nothing wrong with holding a teenager responsible for their actions. Teenage girls getting a free pass is the problem. Both groups should be held accountable of their own actions.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:13 AM
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As much as I cringed while reading the article (I think every man on the planet cringed to this story, while not-so-covertly cupping their balls), this story is ripe for parody. I mean, this is the sort of material that standup comics thrive on. What happened to this guy was horrible, and the woman should get thrown under the prison for it... but the idea behind the ordeal is funny for those of us with a darker and irreverent sense of humor.
/r/MensRights01/08/13 02:07 AM
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took off her clothes and sexually assaulted her, including writing and drawing on intimate parts of her body and taking cellphone photos of their actions, according to authorities. I can't help but feel like if they did more than just write on her, they would have mentioned it in the article. These news sites are looking for hits, and nothing gets more hits than, "Girl raped by classmates, later hangs herself."
/r/MensRights28/07/13 11:07 PM
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This would probably fit better in /r/mensrants.
/r/MensRights28/07/13 10:38 PM
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I like waffles that are crispy on the outside and fluffy on the inside. You get that delicious combination of textures that is just heavenly.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:33 PM
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Be horrified.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 08:19 PM
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... I want a waffle iron, now.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 07:37 PM
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She's done two videos about her first topic, and promises that a third will be out in the near future.
/r/MensRights26/07/13 07:35 PM
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Remember that story where that high school kid made a youtube video asking out that celebrity, and the feminists were in an uproar about how inappropriate it was and how he was "pressuring" her and all that garbage? Yeah.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 12:50 AM
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This pretty much sums up my feelings. When I watch porn and the moron behind the camera decides to get a close-up of the dude's face, all I can do is roll my eyes and wait for them to get back to the good shit.
/r/MensRights24/07/13 12:41 AM
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Your logic might actually hold up under scrutiny if SRS and the feminist subs were also banned.
/r/MensRights23/07/13 11:23 PM
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I generally avoid the news whenever possible. I have enough problems with depression without going out of my way to lose faith in humanity :P
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:25 PM
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Because "outrage" is synonymous with murder. Yep. That's totally what I meant.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:24 PM
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If you can tell me the last time you flagged down the garbage man to have a conversation with him, or asked the police officer who pulled you over how his day was going, or chatted with the server at a sit-down restaurant about what he wants to do when he finally works his way through college, I might be inclined to believe you actually feel that way.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 04:58 AM
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I hope whoever stole your sense of humor returns it soon.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 03:04 AM
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The law isn't the issue. There are no laws in place in this situation. The problem is the social perception of women=victims, men=perpetrators. People jump in to protect the poor defenseless women and give any guys in the general vicinity the finger. That's the real problem.
/r/MensRights22/07/13 02:57 AM
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I don't base my reaction on how the gender-flipped opposite would be received, I base my reaction on how big of a deal it is in the grand scheme of things. I prefer to save my outrage for things that actually matter, and let the radfem harpies keep the whole "offended by petty, inconsequential garbage" for themselves.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 05:31 AM
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Yeah, I can't help but feel this is a ridiculously petty thing to get upset over.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 04:36 AM
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I'm willing to bet that if she sold her house and cars, she could rent a nice apartment and not work for the next decade.
/r/MensRights21/07/13 04:27 AM
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You know, GWW made a video recently that touched on points 2 and 3. It was quite enlightening.
/r/MensRights20/07/13 03:45 AM
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Yeah, I've been involved with a couple theater chicks. They're pretty out there in the ether.
/r/MensRights19/07/13 12:37 AM
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I'm not saying that there aren't men who sabotage birth control to get their SOs pregnant. I'm just saying that it's easier for women to get away with it without ever being found out, so it's more likely that the numbers reported are a bit skewed.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 08:13 PM
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I answered your question, I didn't say that it explained everything. But if you really want me to come up with a rough sex scenario that explains everything, I'm sure I could.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 04:22 PM
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Rough sex?
/r/MensRights18/07/13 04:15 PM
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I think child support should be obliterated entirely, and single parents of either gender should pay for their own fucking kids.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 03:56 PM
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Since that's all self-reported, I'll take it with a grain of salt. I can't help but believe that the number of women who "forgot" to take their pill and never told daddy is the magic statistic that never gets reported.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 03:52 PM
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Pedantic much?
/r/MensRights18/07/13 02:43 PM
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I think you missed the entire point of "jury nullification."
/r/MensRights18/07/13 07:08 AM
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That doesn't make the law itself any less bullshit.
/r/MensRights18/07/13 07:07 AM
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I think this would find a better audience in /r/mensrants.
/r/MensRights16/07/13 02:21 AM
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Sometimes, I think the people who run AVFM could take their show on broadway. They're masters of over-the-top dramatization. I agree with the sentiment of this piece, but I don't know if they could have been any more baiting or inflammatory if they tried.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 04:53 PM
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I'd like a followup on this story, to see if anything actually comes of his report. It's great that HR didn't laugh him out of the room, but at the same time... I mean, we're getting happy because HR didn't laugh him out of the room. It seems like a very tiny, tiny win. So yeah... followup!
/r/MensRights15/07/13 04:43 PM
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It all comes back to The Patriarchy™. Women put so much emphasis on looks because that's what men care about, and The Patriarchy™ has brainwashed women into believing that their sole purpose in life should be to look attractive to men. I shit you not, this is their line of reasoning that they fall back on every single time.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 04:30 PM
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You didn't actually read the article properly, I see. She was grandmother of the bride, not grandmother of the girl from the school.
/r/MensRights15/07/13 04:14 PM
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Yeah, I don't trim away at my opinions to make them palatable for the PC crowd. So to the uninitiated, I'm sure my comment looks rude and woman-hating, rather than a jab at realistic absurdities.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:59 PM
2

Fair enough. Glad to see when people know well enough to learn from their mistakes.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:57 PM
1

lol I'll take your word for it. Also, consider that your picker might be broken ;)
/r/MensRights12/07/13 11:46 PM
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The organization can either let the women join in the men's race or organise a separate race for the women, if they refuse to do the latter out of economic concerns then they have to do the former. If they don't do so then they are de-facto just discriminating against women. You can throw around the word "discrimination" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that they were losing money. If the Tour de France stopped being profitable, they'd wrap that up too. I'm not saying that they shoul…
/r/MensRights12/07/13 09:10 PM
1

There are actually guys who say this? o.O
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:42 PM
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They didn't say no women allowed. It's not the organization's fault that the women's race didn't maintain a baseline level of profitability.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:32 PM
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lol until they see that only men are winning, and decide that they need to change the rules so that the race is "more fair to women."
/r/MensRights12/07/13 08:31 PM
1

You're the one bitching, not me. I'm simply offering suggestions to alter your perception of events.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 06:19 PM
1

Not all of us have your delicate sensibilities. Instead of being the word police, you could accept that not everybody shares your opinion and suck it up.
/r/MensRights12/07/13 01:54 AM
1

Or, you could just get thicker skin.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 09:36 PM
1

Because calling somebody what they are may not be nice, but it can be appropriate in certain situations, and allow people to blow off steam without doing anything actually harmful. In short: If you don't want to be called a cunt, then don't act like a cunt.
/r/MensRights11/07/13 03:07 AM
3

I didn't say they were MRAs, I just said that they often come close to hitting the nail on the head. They've been getting harassed pretty badly lately by the SJW scene between the Dickwolves thing in 2011 and Gabe's "men have penises and women have vaginas."
/r/MensRights09/07/13 02:26 PM
4

The guys at Penny Arcade are very anti-PC and say pretty much whatever the fuck they want, whenever the fuck they want. They don't always hit the nail on the head, but they often come close.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 07:05 AM
2

I had a far more sexy picture in my head.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 07:01 AM
3

I felt your righteous fury through the internet, and it was glorious.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 06:56 AM
5

That cracked me up, because I'm currently wearing this shirt :P
/r/MensRights09/07/13 06:47 AM
10

I have to imagine that this was at AX, with all the topics going on in /r/anime the last few days. I'd suggest posting this in /r/anime for awareness, but you'd probably get SRS brigading to claim "shitthatneverhappened." Although, if you reword it a bit, /r/justiceporn would eat this up.
/r/MensRights09/07/13 06:41 AM
9

Maybe I'm just being pedantic, I just wanted to point out that it's not that they're enduring more pain, it's that their bodies are built in such a way that they actually feel less pain than men for the same actions.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:44 PM
11

Choosing to post on /r/girlgamers because they're "a smart bunch, unlike /r/gaming." Irony at its finest.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:27 PM
2

This is completely bogus mindless drivel. First off, define objectification -- I fail to see how an avatar is "objectified" by this retarding distinction babies "objectify" parents during mimesis. It's dumb. Objectification is the action of demoting one from personhood to object. Essentially, their personhood becomes irrelevant, and their only importance is imparted by their usefulness. In this specific case, the man is objectified through heroism. His worth is tied directly to how well he fight…
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:22 PM
11

Your statement makes the assumption that they won't just shift the goalposts and keep raving like lunatics.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:14 PM
32

"But it's different, because the female characters don't get to choose what they wear, they're literally dress-up dolls for men." I wish I was lying when I say I've actually heard this argument before.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:11 PM
10

It's not that they have a higher tolerance for pain, it's that they have fewer pain receptors.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:03 PM
19

It's actually around the 28 minute mark.
/r/MensRights06/07/13 11:01 PM
1

Thank you, I'll do just that. :)
/r/MensRights26/06/13 07:38 AM
1

This isn't 50 years ago. Also, women are generally the ones that raise their children. Ever heard the saying, "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world"? With the skyrocketing rate of single-parent households run by mothers, I find it near damned impossible that the dreaded Patriarchy™ has a chokehold on the minds of our youth, twisting them into woman-shaming psychopaths. The fact is, women have a stake in maintaining their "weak" status. Boys are taught by their mothers from a young age …
/r/MensRights26/06/13 07:37 AM
2

... this discussion is incredibly stupid. You're arguing something that's completely beside the point of my original post. I'm not going to spend my time arguing unrelated, tertiary garbage with you.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 07:24 AM
2

A Ph.D still requires years of dedicated study. This isn't about how valid her degree is, it's about whether her baseline intelligence can be assumed to be high enough to assume she isn't a full-blown retard.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 07:14 AM
1

Can't cut through that leg hair? :P
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:33 AM
3

I prefer to apply occam's razor, rather than entertain the very unlikely idea that somebody is intelligent enough to get their Ph.D but somehow stupid enough to completely miss the implications of basic business economics.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:13 AM
1

You've literally described a system where the terms are interchangeable the vast majority of the time, and lose all coherent meaning.
/r/MensRights26/06/13 12:07 AM
0

First of all, if you still have a penis, you're transgender, not transexual. Gender refers to how you identify, while sex refers to your genitalia. I was going to hit on a second point, but I've decided I've had that argument enough this week and don't feel like rekindling it again.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:47 PM
0

Every time I've gone to a repair place that had female employees, they'd listen to what I needed help with, then pass me off to one of the dudes.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:43 PM
1

Feminists claim that the patriarchy is to blame for that stereotype.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:41 PM
-5

That sucks, but this isn't the sub for airing your shitty missed connection stories from dating websites.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:34 PM
3

Considering dropping the definition of full time employment down to 32 hours would require a major overhaul of the entire system, I think it's safe to assume that discussing "4 day weeks" automatically includes an increase of daily hours to meet the 40 hour work week quota.
/r/MensRights25/06/13 11:30 PM
6

Basically, feminists reskin douchebags as sexists and try to damsel their way into the spotlight once again.
/r/MensRights23/06/13 06:34 AM
0

Sponsors will always cave to people who yell and bitch loud enough. Public relations is a thing, and no company wants to commit PR suicide. Laying the blame at their feet for "deciding" to pull out is a load of bullshit, and you know it.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 01:27 AM
0

But who gets to decide what is right and wrong? Obviously we have a stake in pushing our information, just as feminism has a stake in pushing theirs'. But the moment we start qualifying our actions with, "But I'm allowed to do this because I'm actually right," we open up the floodgates for every jackass who wants to do something because they "know" that they're right.
/r/MensRights22/06/13 01:05 AM
0

Well, think about it. If a group of feminists targeted a male DV awareness campaign by trying to get their sponsers pulled, how would you react?
/r/MensRights21/06/13 09:57 PM
0

One, this is what our political opponents always do. "They started it," stopped being an acceptable excuse in about 2nd grade. You may not have scruples about resorting to that sort of behavior, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you. Two, it's very effective, which is exactly what our small movement needs. Its effectiveness is not in question. Its moral ambiguity is. Three, I really can't understand why you'd pull punches against a group advertizing that men are the problem. The shelter…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 09:02 PM
-3

I actually read a thing recently that people who are jailed for short stretches of time (about a year and under) have a far higher rate of re-offending than those who are jailed for longer stints. I wish I could remember where I read it, so I could link it here. And anyway, even if we assume that this woman is mentally ill or deficient in some way (since evidently, you have to be mentally fucked to find a 16 year old physically attractive... don't even get me started on that), it would be better…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 05:10 PM
0

I don't like attacking sponsors. That's too close to censorship for my comfort. It's essentially saying, "If you don't agree with my point of view, I'm going to shut you down so you can't spread yours."
/r/MensRights21/06/13 05:01 PM
2

Great response. It's good to know that I wasn't the only person thinking this as I read the OP.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:56 PM
2

Exactly. I've said it time and time again, equality should be about making sure everybody is treated like a human being, not making sure everybody is burned at the stake. I've actually discussed this idea with somebody here in MR, and their thought process was essentially, "Well, men aren't going to get treated like human beings any times soon, so we may as well work toward getting women treated like animals, too." I hate to say this, but I actually think that we're seeing an influx of people wh…
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:47 PM
1

Considering the "sexual comments" in the second thread both have over a dozen upvotes now, this entire bitch-fest looks incredibly ridiculous.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:44 PM
-7

Seriously. It's getting to be that the posters around /r/mensrights are just as reactionary as the feminists. I'm getting kinda tired of it, tbqh.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 04:28 PM
1

Not sure where you're seeing insecurity.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 10:12 PM
2

I think his point is that women are the gate-keepers. As a man, we can decide who we pursue, but it's ultimately the woman who holds the key to the lock. That's why male sexuality is largely influenced by what women find attractive. By making ourselves attractive to women, we dramatically improve our chances that they'll open the gate.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:09 PM
0

Are you a teenager?
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:03 PM
7

If anybody is interested in seeing more of these, check out /r/ineedfeminismbecause.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 06:01 PM
10

This is not OK. This person is a vile human being, and that should be enough of a reason to shame the fuck out of her. There's no reason to get personal.
/r/MensRights20/06/13 05:53 PM
1

To be fair, the PUA guys who use that tactic tend to also use the "shotgun method." So usually they're not picking out a woman because she looks weak, they're just bouncing from one woman to the next until one of them bites.
/r/MensRights19/06/13 02:30 AM
2

The biggest issue is that men are still expected to be the pursuer, while women sit back like Julius Ceaser and give the thumbs up or thumbs down. If women weren't taught from a young age to be passive in the dating game and resort to the equivalent of subliminal messaging to flag their interest, there'd be far fewer men gravitating toward the PUA game. That sort of thing is borne of the frustration of constant rejection. You'd be surprised how little the average guy even gets a compliment, much…
/r/MensRights18/06/13 10:55 PM
2

I think I just decided to ignore it, because the moment I heard the line, I knew what sort of shitstorm was going to ensue.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:12 AM
3

"Hey, how are you doing? I just saw you across the room, and I just had to come over and say ubhluhbhluhbhluhbhlubh!"
/r/MensRights18/06/13 06:02 AM
1

"Do you have a dog? Because I think I just found his bone."
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:59 AM
4

The problem is that "negging" is used when searching for a certain type of girl. If you're not that type, then say, "Get lost" and move on. I don't particularly like the PUA community, and I think that gender relations would be much improved if we could just be excellent to one another, but until our dating paradigm shifts into something more equitable, I can't really blame them for deciding to play the system. If you want to trash negging, your frustration would be more useful directed at the w…
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:56 AM
2

"I'm not racist, I have black... porn."
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:51 AM
2

I had a friend like this for a short while. She had a very ADD approach to life, where she would get caught up in something and completely forget about everything else that was going on, or that she'd planned in advance. It was pretty much just a given that you couldn't make plans with her more than an hour or two in the future, because she'd just sort of flutter off and lose herself doing something else. I took it personally at first because I don't like it when people flake on me. But after a …
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:50 AM
3

This is a classy, classy woman.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:29 AM
0

That would just be the point where my brain implodes in on itself.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:16 AM
3

How big did that blow up? I cringed when I heard it, then went on to watch the other conferences and completely forgot about it.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:07 AM
7

It isn't a feminist issue. But their assertion that 99% of rape victims are women keeps it firmly planted in the social consciousness as one, anyway.
/r/MensRights18/06/13 05:06 AM
-1

Churches are basically high school for adults.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:43 AM
0

However, what these people are not seeing is that there are MRAs, men, women, etc who celebrate both genders on both holidays. Just because they're MRAs doesn't mean they're not wrong.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:13 AM
1

The point of the poster is to be inclusive, not to attack fathers, imo. That's why Mother's Day exists.
/r/MensRights17/06/13 02:12 AM
1

Except everywhere that specifically doesn't do that. Like more than half the states in the US, and every other country in the world.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 04:15 AM
1

Well there is zero chance of that ever happening, I will take equality under the law. I'm addressing specifically what you stated, not this hypothetical world of what-ifs and wherefores.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 03:56 AM
0

Please don't strawman this. That's not what he said, and you know it.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 03:50 AM
1

And an 18 year old has next to nothing in common with a 50 year old, should that be illegal too? I'm being hyperbolic because when you fall back on subjective reasoning, it doesn't hold up against scrutiny.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 03:49 AM
1

You could literally say this of any affair, FWB, or drunken one night stand. The only difference here is a matter of age and social acceptability.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 03:43 AM
1

Except a lot of those threads turn into witch hunts, unfortunately.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 03:37 AM
2

And while you're willing to make sure that everybody is screwed for the sake of fairness, I would prefer to keep fighting for the right to be seen as a human being.
/r/MensRights15/06/13 02:57 AM
4

No, I don't have a problem with this. I have a problem with men getting the short end of the stick in a similar situation. I'd rather see men treated as people, rather than seeing women also burned at the stake.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 11:33 PM
5

I have no problem with this. The only issue is the hypocrisy that arises during a genderswap situation.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 07:35 PM
9

"I do it for myself." That's great. And I look at your ass for myself. I'm glad we can both be in control of our own bodies and not shame each other for our own personal decisions. Also, the people who bitch about the "male gaze" can shove it up their ass as long as /r/ladyboners exists.
/r/MensRights14/06/13 06:56 PM
1

I don't know what the logic was. I just know the official reasoning they gave. That she was in a "position of authority within the school."
/r/MensRights13/06/13 05:06 AM
1

The student wasn't on the cheerleading squad.
/r/MensRights13/06/13 04:19 AM
3

You can both vilify a person's actions and treat them with compassion. They are not mutually exclusive. Admitting that a person did what they did due to emotional instability and could benefit from psychological help does not erase the fact that what they did was horrible.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 01:06 AM
3

People who do "monstrous things" do them because they have psychological problems. Every human should be afforded the opportunity for rehabilitation. If you're not going to rehabilitate them, you may as well just kill them and save society the burden of paying for their upkeep.
/r/MensRights12/06/13 01:02 AM
1

I think you misspelled "benevolent sexism." /s
/r/MensRights12/06/13 01:00 AM
5

It doesn't sound like he was drunk, it sounds like he was completely blacked out, which is rape.
/r/MensRights10/06/13 04:08 AM
2

I was going to say not to let SRS see as they might call rape... but then I remembered that you're a woman, so you're in the clear. :P
/r/MensRights10/06/13 03:50 AM
4

I think the idea is that the representatives shouldn't be having sex with the new students, since they're officially in a "position of power/authority" while holding that rep. position. Which makes sense, because when you're acclimating to a new environment, having a handful of people you can rely on for help where you don't have to worry about standard social interactions makes things go a lot more smoothly.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 05:46 PM
3

I think TAs are seen as much a part of the system as teachers are. I say that based on the news story that popped up a couple months ago, where an early-20's woman got in trouble for fooling around with a 17-year-old senior (legal in that state), when her only connection to the school was as the coach of the cheerleading squad.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 05:40 PM
1

The best thing you can do is ask her to do it for you, to alleviate your peace of mind. Anything else you say will be construed as not trusting her to not fuck you over several years down the road. If she really loves you and has no intentions of doing so, wording it to make it sound like it's some sort of nagging worry that you have a personal problem with, and you just want her help you fix it so you can sleep better, might bring her around to your way of thinking. Afterall, we all want to hel…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 05:33 PM
5

I'm really getting tired of the wishy-washy nature of this sub. On some days, cooler heads will prevail, and logic will win out. Other days, we have the "masculism" retards flooding the forum with their male-branded repackaging of feminism, screaming, "NOPE! SHE'S A PEDOPHILE! LOCK HER UP AND MOVE ON, PEOPLE!!" This is the sort of bullshit I'm afraid of as the MRM gains more traction. Many of us are rational enough to see human relationships as fluid and flexible. But the harpies screech the lou…
/r/MensRights09/06/13 06:55 AM
4

Well, evidently you didn't detect his sarcasm, so we all learned something today ;)
/r/MensRights09/06/13 06:50 AM
2

I was with you until the second paragraph, where you just became a traditionalist prick.
/r/MensRights09/06/13 06:40 AM
3

That's what egalitarianism is. The problem with equal gender movements, by and large, is that the ones that pick up steam end up getting appropriated by feminism. Since the social climate still leans in the direction of "women are victims, men are perpetrators," any equality movement eventually starts leaning toward focusing heavily on women's problems. And it's only a hop, skip and a jump from there to full blown, "WHAT ABOUT TEH MENZ!?"
/r/MensRights08/06/13 09:04 PM
6

It's just another manhood troll. Report and ignore.
/r/MensRights08/06/13 08:48 PM
1

I've noticed that a lot of women seem more wrapped up in their identities as women than man are as their identities as men. When you become an "us" instead of an "I," it becomes very easy to "other" everybody who isn't a part of your in-group.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 06:25 PM
10

It seems to me like that pediatrician should get nailed for malpractice. That's a load of shit.
/r/MensRights07/06/13 06:21 PM
-5

Louis CK is too open-minded for his own good. He takes just about anybody's point of view at face value and doesn't really apply a whole lot of critical thinking when it comes to that sort of thing.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 08:55 PM
3

It would be nice if we could find out what was actually said. There's a lot of drama over peoples' feels and what should/shouldn't have been said, but I can't seem to find any info on what actually occured. A transcript or something. It's hard to decide one way or the other whether there was bad behavior going on when it's impossible to get your hands on the facts of the scenario.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 08:21 PM
2

My definition of "bat-shit insane" is overly broad :P
/r/MensRights06/06/13 06:16 PM
2

My general rule of thumb is, "If you have to question whether or not it's rape, then it isn't." Of course, this rule only applies to people who aren't bat-shit insane.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 05:24 PM
10

lol just goes to show that people who are mentally deficient enough to hate the MRM with that sort of fury, are also too mentally deficient to know what rape is. Lying about birth control is a shitty, shitty thing to do. There should be legal safeguards for men against this sort of behavior. But it's not rape. Getting kinda tired of people conflating generally shitty behavior with rape.
/r/MensRights06/06/13 04:54 PM
8

One of these days, i want to see somebody call a feminist out on that bullshit line. Bitch, you are not all women, and you haven't been sexually repressed for several centuries. You are a 20-something year old woman who grew up sexually liberated. Stop making excuses for your shitty behavior.
/r/MensRights05/06/13 05:51 PM
12

I find it amusing that you would try to engage with one of these trolls in a thread about ignoring these trolls.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:55 PM
3

Give the guy probation for being the victim? Yeah, makes total sense...
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:43 PM
3

When I went in to register for my classes when I started high school, I met a girl who was also starting her Freshman year, who looked 20-ish, easy. Some kids just sprout sooner than others. If they're also lying about their age, there's just no way to tell one way or the other.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 10:42 PM
0

If you say so! :)
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:47 PM
1

It's a sad day when parents can foist the job of teaching their children how the world works onto the public education system.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 08:47 PM
1

That's like saying that Shakespeare sends a mixed message and encourages young people to kill each other or commit suicide. No, I'm not comparing this song to Shakespeare. What I'm saying is that taking things out of context usually makes them look worse by default.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:20 PM
-1

Godwin's Law prevails! Have fun with that. :)
/r/MensRights04/06/13 07:15 PM
0

I didn't feel like the rest was worth responding to.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:53 PM
-1

Just because you call yourself something different doesn't mean anything. You still espouse the same PUA bullshit, no matter how you try to dress it up.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:52 PM
0

And you might say that its treating women like objects but aren't they doing the same thing back when they hook up with you. I didn't say they were treating women like objects, I said they were treating people like objects. They do it as much to other men as they do it to women.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:35 PM
0

The problem is their attitude about the whole thing. They treat people like animals or objects, not human beings with their own thoughts and feelings and dreams and desires. The ultimate goal is to get laid, no matter how many toes you have to step on in the process. It's a contest, and the one with the most pussy at the end of the day wins. Their entire focus is to exploit the system as it is, rather than help fix it. And that doesn't help men, it only helps themselves.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:23 PM
1

I agree. Though I would have preferred he'd actually tried before just blowing up. You'd be surprised how accommodating people can be. Introspection is a learned skill, and many people haven't bothered to pick it up. Sometimes it takes an outside voice to point out that they're being jerks. And sometimes it takes a swift kick in the pants. I'm just the sort of person who advocates a light touch before a full explosion.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:14 PM
1

That doesn't detract from what I just said.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:12 PM
1

Dunno, I don't think I've ever seen a list of all the games she bought. Doesn't mean it's not online somewhere, though.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:12 PM
-1

The red pill sub is just another branch of PUA culture. It takes the male-empowerment of the MRM and the predatory nature of the PUA scene and mixes them together into one disgusting batch of chauvinism. It's like Manhood Academy, but with more sex and less spam.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:11 PM
-1

How great is this? On /r/mensrights, a sub dedicated to a marginalized group of people-- actively discriminating and marginalizing a group of people! Marginalizing PUA culture is no different than marginalizing feminism. I'm attacking the bullshit you represent, not you as a person. Though you could be a shitty person too, I don't know. But feel free to keep twisting my words into something other than how I intended them. I'm sure it'll make you look like a logical and reasonable person.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:07 PM
1

I just really hate the gender roles it presents. And that's your problem. You're looking at it through the lens of today's views of social interaction.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 06:05 PM
1

Well yeah. But how many people are going to just apologize after basically being called selfish right to their face? Antagonism begets antagonism, afterall. I'm not saying that this guy did anything wrong, I'm just saying that from the viewpoint of the story he's telling, it doesn't sound like there was any real communication going on. From anyone.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 05:56 PM
1

But all the games she actually plucked specific examples from?
/r/MensRights04/06/13 05:53 PM
0

Please don't put words in my mouth, or attribute anything to me which I did not state or imply. I am allowed to have an opinion of the crap you pedal, whether you like it or not.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 05:53 PM
0

The red pill is a bunch of PUA bullshit, and is not welcomed by those of us who don't want your predator garbage to be equated with the Men's Rights Movement.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 05:50 PM
-3

There's also nothing wrong with giving away all your money. But don't delude yourself into thinking it provides you value. Depends on what you perceive as value. If you're trying to break down "care" into pure dollars and cents, and value as the direct return of your investment, then sure. But we both know that money isn't the real issue here. You don't just insert money and respect pops out. Relationships are a complex and messy web of interactions with people you come to care about over time. …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 05:32 PM
-1

While I totally sympathize for his situation, I have to wonder if he actually took the time to talk to anybody about how he felt. It kinda sounds like he just let everything simmer under the surface, then let it all blow up in the heat of the moment, completely blindsiding everyone. Don't get me wrong, he speech was kinda brilliant, and he may very well have dodged a bullet.... on the other hand, if he'd actually told them how he was feeling, they might have realized they were being selfish and …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:55 PM
-3

Unless you plan on reverting to the primal stages of our evolution and killing the offspring of the competing males, there's no reason to decry the act of taking children under your wing and taking up a role that somebody else refused. Like any relationship, it's your responsibility to keep your eyes open and not be blindsided by selfish, manipulative people. Painting an entire demographic with the same brush lends weight to the -isms that we, as a society, have been carefully paring out of our …
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:48 PM
5

I constantly hear the mantra about how "sexist" the gaming community is, but magically, nobody can ever come up with a with anything legitimate to point out. And by "legitimate," I mean, "Something that hasn't already been debunked countless times."
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:36 PM
1

lol if you think about it, it can sort of stand as a commentary on the state of marriage and divorce in today's society.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:27 PM
3

Did she even use any of the games from that picture in her first two videos? It seemed like most of her examples were plucked from games that are at least a decade old, with a couple mixed in from the current generation.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:23 PM
3

I'll just leave this here...
/r/MensRights04/06/13 04:17 PM
1

Anybody who can't separate targeted cursing from general cursing (that is, curses directed at a specific individual as opposed those directed at an entire group of people) generally aren't going to be the type to actually listen to anything we have to say, anyway. Calling somebody a bitch or a cunt or what have you, when it's warranted, should not be something looked down on as something we have to hush up and censor to avoid pissing people off. Call a spade a spade, IMO. Feminists will try what…
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:55 PM
1

Please educate yourself. Also, watch the Glee version of this song for the appropriate playful context.
/r/MensRights04/06/13 03:33 PM
2

You really shouldn't make such outlandish claims.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:13 PM
5

Claiming "baby, it's cold outside" is pseudo-rapey just shows that you don't actually understand the context of the song. It was written in 1944, during a time when it was normal for women to play hard to get. It's a cat-and-mouse game, where she comes up with excuses to leave in an attempt to be coy, and he shuts them down to break through her little socially-erected barriers. I'm betting your great-grandparents went through the same little dance.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:05 PM
1

There's actually a surprising number of people who buy into the whole "date rape" theory, and it's incredibly stupid and disgusting. The fact that such a great song has lost its meaning to such a large amount of people because our society's obsession with "rape culture" is just really sad.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 08:01 PM
2

Sexist implications that all men are dogs?
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:59 PM
22

I really have a huge problem with peoples' tendency to take a swipe at others' appearances when they disagree with each other. I mean, this woman is a clueless harpy, and there is plenty reason to hate her views on dating and gender relations as a whole. Is there really a reason that her physical appearance needs to be dragged into it? It seems like the sort of thing somebody falls back on when they have no other arguments to make.
/r/MensRights03/06/13 07:51 PM
3

I would love to see a paper about this. Maybe you and /u/dakru could converse about it.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 04:59 PM
2

I feel like you didn't actually read the article. Also, if you don't care, then don't post.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 04:53 PM
3

And I'm pointing out that it's the mother's job to teach her kid that the world doesn't revolve around him, if this is indeed the case.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 04:19 AM
10

I feel like you didn't actually read the whole article. She was told a mother and son seminar was planned for later in the year. The woman's son was welcome at the second seminar and the guest speaker offered a specific session with her and her son but she continued to insist on attending... Considering she was given several options and she chose to make a stink anyway, yeah, I have zero fucks to give for their feels.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 02:59 AM
3

lol and here I thought most people would sense the sarcasm. I should have known that it would Poe you right into the floor.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 02:35 AM
2

What if someone you started dating let themselves go? Started to get fat? Dunno, it's never happened to me before. I couldn't say until I were in that situation. And my reaction would likely differ depending on the context. But I can say without reservation that, "You're getting fat, so I'm breaking up with you," would definitely be the very last thing that would cross my mind. If he had ambition and talent that she was initially interested in, yet he squandered it with no results, why isn't tha…
/r/MensRights02/06/13 02:33 AM
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Or a man who is ambitious enough to make money. It's a shame that it's against the law for women to work and make their own money. Then she could be independent and not have to worry about her potential spouse's income.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 02:13 AM
5

"If you think she's ugly, why did you start dating her? Don't be an asshole." Or, alternately... "You think you can do better? She's a fucking angel. Stop being an asshole."
/r/MensRights02/06/13 02:11 AM
4

Would you date an ugly women because she is a good person? She has value in her looks, why would she not capitalize on that? Why does that make her shallow? If I weren't physically attracted to somebody, I wouldn't date them to begin with. There's a huge difference between not dating somebody for reason X, and stringing somebody along and breaking their heart some time down the line for reason X. This woman is doing the latter.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 02:08 AM
7

It's the parent's job to teach their children to cope with things like this. It's not acceptable to ruin something positive for everybody else, just because the state of your personal life keeps you from participating.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 01:53 AM
1

Whatever's wrong with you... is no little thing.
/r/MensRights02/06/13 01:47 AM
2

That's generally what I meant, I just didn't feel like getting all psychological :P
/r/MensRights01/06/13 01:24 AM
5

I theorize that this is because gay men aren't attracted to women, and so don't feel the urge to side with feminism in a desperate ploy to get laid.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 11:33 PM
11

You can't expect a feminist to come straight out in public and say that they're trying to censor people. If you admit to censorship, you're just going to piss people off and make them look at you like you just sprouted a third arm. So she has to give the run-around and not actually admitting to want to censor them. That's what all the "rape culture" garbage is about. Admitting that they want to censor people won't work, so they have to publicly shame them into censoring themselves.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 11:29 PM
1

TIL: It's sexist to be attracted to people who are awesome at the things you love.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 01:31 AM
7

There are certain things that you should talk about before dedicating yourself to a full-on relationship with somebody. Expectations of marriage and children are a couple of the biggies.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 01:25 AM
3

I need an adult.
/r/MensRights31/05/13 12:58 AM
7

If they actually offered anything constructive, I'd be right there with you. But they're like the manosphere version of Gawker. They only exist to be inflammatory and hateful and bigoted.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:42 PM
21

There's a difference between direct threats and angry, shitty rants from internet trolls. Not a single one of the hateful comments on that page came from a self-professed MRA. Not a single one.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:39 PM
18

Just downvote and report. These Manhood Academy trolls need to be shut down ASAP.
/r/MensRights30/05/13 09:32 PM
1

The part toward the end where she basically implied that these tropes pad violence against women as something that's acceptable (and even desired) nearly made me gag. I guess there's no mention of the thousands of men I stab or shoot in the face, and how this gendered violence supposedly makes it acceptable, or even desired, to attack other men.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 04:44 AM
1

I cracked up when I saw her use Duke Nukem as an example.
/r/MensRights29/05/13 04:40 AM
1

There was a Suikoden game as well, where your best friend dies for the sake of your own character development. And Valkyria Chronicles
/r/MensRights29/05/13 04:36 AM
1

This sounds more like a complaint about double standards, tbqh. Which, by the way, I happen to agree with.
/r/MensRights28/05/13 01:53 AM
0

Most comedians know that nothing is sacred, and we joke about things because absurdity is the spice of life. And whether you realize it or not, you're essentially arguing that male rape jokes feed into an anti-male "rape culture."
/r/MensRights28/05/13 12:51 AM
-3

Shrugs Whatever. Think what you want.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 08:49 PM
-10

I don't think this is advocating violence. Haven't you ever heard of a "ball breaker" or "ball buster"? Edit: Thank you, everyone, who downvoted me for not just assuming that people wantonly advocate physical assault.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 08:28 PM
1

Or, we can accept that humor is humor and that jokes don't contribute to male rape any more than they contribute to female rape.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 08:22 PM
3

lol that movie was so stupid it was funny.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 08:21 PM
2

I wouldn't have voted for the death penalty either. But that's because I don't believe in the death penalty, not because she's a woman.
/r/MensRights27/05/13 08:19 PM
4

If her experiences were correct, editing positions across the world would be primarily filled by women, since publishers want to put out the best product possible.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 11:49 PM
0

The fact that you've taken a pair of teenagers in a relationship and twisted it into pedophilia pretty much invalidates your opinion. Not just because you're being hyperbolic and verbally manipulative, but also because you've just proven that you don't actually know what the word 'pedophile' means.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 05:31 AM
0

Stupid laws are stupid, and no amount of self-righteous rage will change that. Many states have Romeo & Juliet clauses in their age of consent laws, exactly for this reason. We should be shooting for equality by creating a balanced and fair system that treats both sexes like dynamic and unique human beings, not by drafting up a witch hunt and burning everybody at the stake. Your bias is showing, and I hope you learn to get rid of it before it comes back to bite you in the ass.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 03:52 AM
2

I really don't like how many of the posters here are ready to throw this girl under the bus, just because feminists are hypocrites. The fact is, regardless of the genders involved, this situation is incredibly stupid.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 01:10 AM
1

Actually, they might be right, on one level. Depending on how homophobic the basketball coach and the younger girl's parents are, there is every chance that this became a legal issue because of it being a lesbian relationship. That isn't to say that this sort of situation doesn't happen to boys who are in relationships with younger girls all the damn time. But in this one specific instance, it could have very well been a case of homophobia rearing its ugly head.
/r/MensRights24/05/13 01:09 AM
2

... I think you're either misinformed, or a very bad troll. I visit /r/askmen almost every day, and the wide majority of responses definitely come from men.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 07:58 PM
3

Because the posters in /r/askmen tend to take questions more seriously than those in /r/askreddit. At least, that's how it seems to me.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 03:36 PM
2

It should be noted that, while most people won't claim you're not an MRA for disagreeing with certain talking points, there are those who are angry and bitter and resentful who will automatically label you a feminist or a feminist shill if you happen to disagree with them. These types of people have a hard time separating their emotions from the discussion, and take a disagreement as a personal attack. So, be prepared to take some comments with a grain of salt.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 02:57 PM
1

It would probably be more likely to get serious answers if you posted it in /r/askmen.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 02:52 PM
1

If your "habits" involve getting plowed by multiple generations of the same family, you might just have a problem.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 01:26 AM
1

Well, there you go. Just another reason to be disgusting. Though I wasn't aware of that piece of info. Makes me wonder why they aren't married after 11 years of dating.
/r/MensRights22/05/13 12:40 AM
1

Because even if they were in a polyamorous relationship (possible, but unlikely), fucking your SO's immediate family is trashy as hell.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 08:52 PM
1

You don't understand the idea of "no women" very well, do you?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 04:11 PM
0

You're thinking extremely small. Do you honestly think that Shakespear's work would have even existed in a society without women?
/r/MensRights21/05/13 04:11 PM
0

Even if the part about violent crimes were true, the book is woefully silent about proxy violence, hypoagency, and group bias. You know, those pesky little things that encourage men to do violent shit in the name of protecting and providing for women, without the women themselves having to get their own hands dirty.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 08:01 AM
1

Many generations ago, the first woman and first man lived with one another harmoniously. One day, the woman tried to speak to the man while he was watching football. He became angry and punched her in the vagina so hard that she began to bleed. And thus, the period was born.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:55 AM
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Women's contribution to society is cultural, not scientific. If there were no women around, most men would sit on their fat asses and do the bare minimum to survive. The reason we even compete and strive to improve ourselves in the first place is for the chance to mate. If women weren't part of the equation, the cultural glue that holds our society together would dry, crack, and crumble.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:52 AM
4

Hippy new-age homeopathy bullshit, wrapped neatly in a feminist package.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:48 AM
4

Holy shit, nihilistic much? This bitch doesn't need a clue, she needs a lobotomy.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:47 AM
3

Look! Look with your special eyes!
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:43 AM
2

Sighs Once again, this really shouldn't be a legal issue. This woman is a despicable human being, but the kid was 16. This is just another one of those legal technicalities.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:35 AM
1

I've always had the sneaking suspicion that these specific type of lesbian women overcompensate by acting like complete dickweeds, because they don't have the personal life experience of living like men, but feel the pressure to act like men in order to fill a specific gender role. It's kinda like learning to sing by listening to other people sing, then trying to figure out why your croaking approximation of singing doesn't sound the same when you finally try it for yourself. That little tidbit …
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:32 AM
1

Most news outlets write their articles at approximately a 6th-grade level. Personally, my eyes just glazed over when I tried to read this thing. It's past midnight, and if I have to read a sentence 3-4 times to understand it, then you can go fuck yourself.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:21 AM
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I'm from the US, and I don't think I've ever known the word to be used outside of literature. I'm almost positive I've never actually heard somebody say it.
/r/MensRights21/05/13 07:20 AM
1

I don't disagree with you at all. But that wasn't a tangent I was really prepared to explore in the scope of this discussion :P
/r/MensRights21/05/13 05:35 AM
4

In one of Adria's blogs, she said that she "felt like Joan of Arc" for the actions she took at the conference.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 03:14 PM
2

Surely, you jest. I cannot fathom any more qualified a judge than the lovely and fair-minded Joan of Arc!
/r/MensRights20/05/13 03:13 PM
10

Two. One to make the joke, and one to get fired when he gets his photo plastered all over Twitter.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 03:10 PM
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I don't hate the show, I just got tired of "a show about geeks" getting turned into, "a show about three girlfriends and how they tamed four losers."
/r/MensRights20/05/13 03:05 PM
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The whole first paragraph made me LOL. The author makes it clear very early that she doesn't know what the fuck she's talking about. It's like she saw a movie once, so now she thinks she knows how the industry works. six-figure salaries and over-the-top perks like concierges, car service, and free gourmet meals. I mean, really? REALLY?!
/r/MensRights20/05/13 03:03 PM
10

It has a lot to do with not feeling pressure to censor yourself. I think women have the same thing with all-women groups. It's silly how much feminism asserts that women need spaces for themselves so they can effectively let their hair down without worrying about males being around, and in the same breath says that men should put on their big-boy pants and suck it up instead of demanding equal male-only spaces.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 02:59 PM
7

... I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say here. I sense sarcasm, but I don't understand your underlying message.
/r/MensRights20/05/13 05:22 AM
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I'm of the firm belief that sex with students shouldn't be a matter of legality, but of morality. A teacher caught fraternizing with his/her students should be an internal affair, immediately having their teaching license revoked, and being completely blacklisted from ever working in another position of education. That said, the fact that this whole shebang is going down because too many women are being caught fucking their students is just disgusting. And sadly, it's also par for the course. If…
/r/MensRights20/05/13 01:27 AM
2

I'm more concerned with the sentiment illustrated by the OP. I told him I was so proud of him for sticking up for a young girl and being able to identify she was in trouble. Not that he stuck up for another person who was in trouble, but that he stuck up for a girl who was in trouble. And what was the trouble? Some guy was shouting things at her on the street. If this happened to another guy, it would be a complete non-issue. "Oh look, somebody's shouting at him. Well, not my problem." But becau…
/r/MensRights19/05/13 03:42 AM
6

I'd just like to point out that talking about hate-fucking somebody is not a rape threat. Hate-fucking is willingly having rough, nasty sex with somebody you absolutely loath. Which anybody with two brain cells would know is not... actually..... rape. It's also not misogynist, but we all know that feminists don't actually need a reason to call something misogynist.
/r/MensRights19/05/13 03:28 AM
1

He said 2 minutes to sort, not to fold.
/r/MensRights18/05/13 04:28 PM
1

While this is technically true, I don't think a large percentage of working males are coal mine workers. Are there any numbers around somewhere that give a breakdown of job numbers by type?
/r/MensRights18/05/13 04:27 PM
1

You may be onto something with the american highschooler thing. I was about to say that highschool girls will drop their panties faster than a random bar skank for a bottle of hard liquor, but that's only true if the guy delivering it isn't a gopher.
/r/MensRights18/05/13 04:12 PM
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I gotta admit, "my sister is a lesbian" made me chuckle a bit. It just reminded me of the time-old, "I'm not racist, I have black friends!" Totally off-topic, but I just thought I'd share that :P
/r/MensRights18/05/13 04:01 PM
0

I don't mind the resulting outcome of having both posters up. Frankly, I think both posters look horrendous, and neither of them really deserve to be shown as public art pieces at a place of business. However, this entire story rubs me the wrong way. I still smell the stink of entitlement and anti-sex dogmatism. Not to mention that the picture with the guy in it shows that this woman doesn't actually know how sexual attraction works. I'm tired of constantly having to retread the argument that, "…
/r/MensRights17/05/13 06:07 AM
0

To the top with you!! The raging discussion about this being charged as murder is definitely interesting, but I think your post hits on exactly why this story is important to the MRM. Even though what this guy did was horrific, it's the effect of a much larger problem. Every bone in my body tells me that if men had more legal recourse than to sack up and shut up once a woman gets pregnant, this entire scenario would have never happened.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 04:41 AM
0

Please don't conflate homicide with murder. Murder is dependent on the definition of the laws of the governing body. Homicide is not. One may kill, commit homicide, and not be a murderer.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 04:29 AM
3

Because you can't enforce something like that without grossly violating the woman's rights to bodily autonomy.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 04:22 AM
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I'm suddenly giddy with anticipation at the possibilities this policy holds. Anybody remember when, recently, some feminist groups started to have a problem with alimony because women were having to pay it, too? Yeah, imagine that little tiff, but across the entire country. This policy, as pants-on-head retarded as it is, may very well inadvertently open the floodgate for Men's Rights groups in colleges all across the country. The public outcry to repeal the policy will be fucking deafening. AHA…
/r/MensRights17/05/13 04:15 AM
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I feel it was just a poor choice of words. I get the impression he's just talking about societal standards and social stigma. The basics of how we treat one another within our culture. Shrugs
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:41 PM
4

I think women say that. That sounds like a piece of shitty advice you'd get from Cosmo.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:33 PM
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Because you're implying he meant the first, while I'm implying he meant the second.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:32 PM
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There's a difference between, "I can legally throw your ass in jail for making me feel bad," and, "People as a whole are kinder and more understanding of one another than they've ever been in recorded history."
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:21 PM
1

Groan I don't feel like trying to look up studies and research for this sort of thing. I have a lot of personal experience with psychology, and the wide majority of the time, trying to win somebody's affections through sex is usually due to some sort of psychological issue. Usually daddy issues of some sort. I'm sorry, I have a lot of men's rights stuff bookmarked, but psychology studies isn't really a thing I've considered bookmarking before.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 06:18 PM
3

The problem is that this doesn't have to go to court to completely fuck up the guy's life, depending on how good she is at playing her victim card.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 05:56 PM
2

"Moderate Feminist," is just another term for, "Self-deluded Egalitarian."
/r/MensRights16/05/13 05:45 PM
1

My understanding was that he wasn't even high enough on her radar for her to recognize him outside of the workplace. They probably rarely even worked in the same part of the store, so not being able to recognize him on sight, especially in completely different attire, didn't really strike me as odd.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 05:04 PM
3

No, but by the same token, is there anything wrong with wanting to date somebody of a certain status? Each sex has their own set of things they tend to look for. Men gravitate more toward physical attractiveness, while women gravitate more toward status and security. Which makes life shitty for us poor shlubs who are screwed out of all of the above, but it's at least equal-opportunity shitty, rather than gender-biased shitty.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 05:00 PM
1

Who a person is comfortable telling their story to isn't necessarily going to fall along gender lines. Many men are more comfortable opening up to women than other men.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 04:44 PM
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Actually, there's no real difference in the complaints, as long as they're framed the same. "She knows I want to be in a relationship with her, but she's stringing me along, using my feelings to get what she wants from me without a commitment." vs. "He knows I want to be in a relationship with him, but he's stringing me along, using my feelings to get what he wants from me without a commitment." In both cases, the person who's being exploited should sack up and move on. But also in both cases, t…
/r/MensRights16/05/13 04:32 PM
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He also mentioned "community standards," so I think he was more implying changing the way society thinks about this sort of behavior.
/r/MensRights16/05/13 04:23 PM
1

The article I originally got that info from was written by Christina Hoff Sommers. She mentions a book called The Essential Difference: Male And Female Brains And The Truth About Autism, written in 2003 by Simon Baron-Cohen.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 05:53 PM
1

When I read that comment, I felt like it was probably something taken wildly out of context. Here in /r/mensrights, we occasionally discuss the idea that men and women are drawn to different types of jobs, in part due to biology; there is some research to support the idea that men's brains tend to be better at systemizing, while women's brains tend to be better at empathizing. Which leads to the more laymen statement of, "Men are better at math and science than women." Which, of course, isn't po…
/r/MensRights15/05/13 05:12 PM
3

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Matter of fact, the title is misleading. It implies that this was something stated by at least one of the witnesses.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 12:44 AM
6

The outrage here should be leveled at the double standard. We don't know what was actually going on in the office, and it very well could have been "horseplay that got out of hand." We don't know if this guy invited her to give him a bite, himself, or if she just crept up on him and took a chunk out while he wasn't looking. The article doesn't state either way, and making this about sexual assault (Remember people, sexual assault is defined as unwanted touching!) is just a little over the top at…
/r/MensRights15/05/13 12:16 AM
4

The poster was originally created as satire to show the supposed ridiculousness of the "rape prevention tips" that teach women to avoid getting raped. Putting aside the fact that threat management is a legitimate issue that is constantly shouted down when it comes to women about... well, anything really... most people that actually post this little flyer don't realize that it's satire. They're putting it up for people to read because they think it's a legitimate message that needs to be spread, …
/r/MensRights15/05/13 12:04 AM
1

I wonder how these people would feel when it comes to transexuals. There's a lot of SJWs who claim that a transexual shouldn't have to disclose their condition before having sex with somebody. I'm curious if that's just an SJW thing, or if feminists believe that also.
/r/MensRights15/05/13 12:00 AM
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Notice how the guys who got hit just sort of go about their business at the end. It's just business as usual after getting the shit slapped out of them by women.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 05:31 PM
17

Every time I've tried to mention it, they manage to find a way to say that it's not the same thing.
/r/MensRights13/05/13 05:22 PM
1

Your joke made me lol :P
/r/MensRights13/05/13 01:01 AM
4

So basically, they weren't being misogynists, just crude and a little stupid.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:06 PM
5

What was the hashtag actually about? What was it referring to? It would be nice to have a little bit of context. It's also nice to see that feminists are still running the same shtick. Make as many accusations as possible, then lock up the comments section so nobody can correct you or challenge anything you say.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:31 PM
3

It's all about context. Rape jokes are funny, no matter what sex the people involved happen to be.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:34 PM
6

lol that was fucking fantastic. I want to cuddle with that guy in the pink shirt :P
/r/MensRights12/05/13 07:32 AM
1

They don't have the same level of competition, and that's a large part of why they are not as skilled. The best women at some sports are not as good as the best men, because they don't have to be, not because they're naturally inferior. lol ok buddy. Biotruths don't real. I got it.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 04:23 AM
2

The fact that you've taken what I've said and twisted into "no woman is ever better than a man, ever" just speaks to your agenda. We're discussing trends and biological tendencies, not individuals. You god damn well know that.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:58 AM
1

Considering most sports are tests in size, strength and speed, your idea of "equally skilled" is a moot point. Skill is one part physical capability, one part mental acuity, one part practice. Which means that for every sport that requires everything that men excel at, no amount of training will ever make women "just as skilled" as men. In baseball, women and men may develop equal ball control, but men will always be able to throw harder, run faster, and hit the ball farther. In basketball, wome…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:33 AM
3

I think you're a little too close to the whole gender debate. There are plenty of american comedies that have the same horrendous sense of humor, and prison rape has been a running gag for... well, longer than I've been alive. Everybody has their own sense of humor, and I don't believe there's such a thing as a subject that can't be used as joke fodder. Of course, not everybody is going to find the same things funny, and you're more than welcome to find the movie as un-funny as you want. I'm pro…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 01:35 AM
7

Go around and talk to the other men who have been subjected to this little lecture. See if any of them will lend their voice to demanding change toward equal representation. If you can get at least a handful of other guys to back you up, set up a meeting with the clown who's in charge of the whole thing and let them know that the lot of you aren't happy with the way things are currently handled. Make sure you use the word "sexism" during your discussion to put the unholy fear of god into them. I…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 01:27 AM
33

Form of... a Bear!!
/r/MensRights12/05/13 01:22 AM
5

And it's not even that we're naturally that much better, it's that men's sports have always been taken more seriously than women's, and as such they are better organised and boys are encouraged more to pursue them. Yeah! Obviously, men are jealous of women and how equal they are, so they completely gloss over the physical capabilities of the female sex, for the sake of their own superiority. It just makes total sense that women are worse at sports because they're not taken seriously. Afterall, t…
/r/MensRights11/05/13 05:44 PM
3

By not denying boys the right to play sports they are somehow denying girls? The point is that the player slot will more likely go to the boy, who is bigger, faster and stronger than most of the girls simply by matter of biology, thus taking a slot away from a girl who otherwise would have gotten to play. It's simultaneously an argument about equal opportunity and equal representation, all jumbled together in a big mash of victimhood, and topped with a dollop of oppression. As long as sports tea…
/r/MensRights11/05/13 05:36 PM
1

Men have dirty, toxic sex thoughts about women, which causes them to harass those women. If a man doesn't harass you, then you must not be attractive. Feminism will force society into a paradigm shift where a woman's attractiveness is no longer measured in this unacceptably brutish fashion. /s, just in case anybody gets confused.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 04:46 PM
4

Actually, that one made me laugh. Fortunately, I wasn't drinking anything at the time or it'd be all over my keyboard! The fact that her statement runs completely contrary to every single feminist theory ever uttered makes her a perfect candidate for the much maligned Irony Award. But if she wants to be harassed that badly though, I'll do it. She's pretty cute. :P
/r/MensRights11/05/13 04:37 PM
6

My point is that tossing around the idea that sexuality as a gendered issue is a bad thing is roughly equivalent to "biotruths don't real!" Women are going to have a distinctly different set of social problems than men in the area of sex and sexuality, simply by the virtue of men and women being different. This isn't good or bad, it just is, and I'm kinda tired of seeing people whine about the whole thing.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 04:54 AM
4

Sexuality is "extremely gendered" because women are viewed as the pinnacle of sexuality. Men and women dress differently, men to show off power, women to show off curves. If admitting that this actually happens is misogyny, then sign me up for a big ol' bowl of sexism.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 04:40 AM
1

I have the distinct feeling that you and I are talking about two completely different things.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 01:10 AM
1

With real moneyz? Because I could use some moneyz about now.
/r/MensRights11/05/13 12:42 AM
4

Male gaze... objectification... degrading to women... patriarchy. There's the list of pertinent buzz words, just add some filler and you're good to go.
/r/MensRights10/05/13 06:25 AM
2

First of all, pedophilia is the attraction of an adult to prepubescent children, not the act of having sex with an underage teenager. Secondly, your assertion completely eliminates the agency of the teenagers in question. Your entire theory is based on the idea that adults will just swoop in, take a teenager by the hand, and carry them away somewhere to have lewd, creepy sex with someone who really really didn't want to, and society would then be implicit in a new legal form of rape. Since when …
/r/MensRights09/05/13 07:57 PM
3

No matter how big you make the letters, I think there'd be a rather large push from the feminist sector to encourage men to feel like assholes for not choosing the opt-out approach. And we all know how insidious and pervasive their ideas can be.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 07:20 PM
-4

I actually think this is an interesting proposal. Speaking purely from a hypothetical viewpoint, not having the government stepping in to thwack people with a ruler every time they glance at a teenager sideways might actually encourage parents and schools to teach their children properly about sex and the consequences of their actions. The earlier you allow them to socially intermingle with adults, the earlier you have to teach them to behave like an adult, instead of letting them coast until th…
/r/MensRights09/05/13 07:18 PM
-1

Consider that child abuse, in this case, is often a product of an arbitrary number (the minor's age), rather than any real damage to the minor's psyche. While you make a good point of the correlation between a lower age of consent and the lower tally of child abuse crimes, it doesn't immediately follow that more minors are now being legally abused.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 07:08 PM
-1

Pretty much this. Although the last time I tried to make this argument, I was called a feminist shill and downvoted into oblivion. Nevermind the fact that I would have made the same god damned argument if the sexes were reversed. I hate that I feel like I have to qualify everything I say before I say it, so that it isn't taken wildly out of context. And even then, somebody still manages to do so.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 06:57 PM
5

That's the government for you.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 06:50 PM
6

The problem with granting an "opt out" option is that you're going to run into the same problem we have now, but in reverse. Instead of it being a dick move to ask for a paternity test, it'll be a dick move to not opt out. The status quo remains, just under a different set of rules.
/r/MensRights09/05/13 06:49 PM
1

It's a good thing you don't get to make that decision. You're so incredibly pedantic that I want to hit you.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:20 AM
1

You can argue linguistics all you want, but ephebophilia actually means attraction to adolescents.
/r/MensRights08/05/13 07:15 AM
1

I would have preferred they forced her to do some charity work instead of paying out cash. I think the little bitch would get more perspective by working with people who have actually been victimized.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 05:58 PM
8

I feel the same way. I looked at the page just long enough to see the picture and I thought, "Uh... why would any sane human being want to shoot one of these things? This is incredibly disturbing." I mean, isn't that what they created those paper targets for?
/r/MensRights07/05/13 05:43 PM
17

I think "Get a lawyer" is only relevant if you end up in a position where talking to the people in charge doesn't get you anywhere.
/r/MensRights07/05/13 05:31 PM
9

I don't have a problem with sentencing like this for statutory rape cases. What I have a problem with is that a man in the same situation would have gotten the book thrown at him.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:55 PM
3

Pretty much. Essentially, they needed to cut something out of the budget and somebody was like, "Hey, Title IX!" and everybody thought that was fucking brilliant.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:51 PM
6

That has nothing to do with the fedora. That's like saying that suits aren't classy if you wear them with sandals and a cowboy hat.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 04:19 AM
0

Fuck you, fedoras are cool.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:12 AM
1

Porque no los dos?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 08:23 PM
1

Fuck you, fedoras are stylish :P
/r/MensRights05/05/13 08:03 PM
4

"But a condom company put out a research paper saying that condoms don't impact sensitivity!" "Well I'm telling you that they're full of shit." Source: My penis
/r/MensRights05/05/13 07:52 PM
3

That just seems very odd to me. Fedoras are actually pretty awesome, and trying to link them to a specific group of people you hate seems very... superficial. It's like the people who try to equate girls with odd hair colors with tumbler feminists.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 07:30 PM
71

I think I may have missed something at one point in time, but I've been wondering for the longest time... what the fuck is up with linking MRAs and fedoras?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:27 PM
4

It's only degrading if the act actually reduces the worth of the person in the eyes of the viewer. That's what degrading actually means. If it doesn't, then it isn't. You can't just throw words around and hope they stick. Words mean things.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:00 AM
1

Or overwhelmed with guilt after the act, and trying to get rid of it by at least telling her what he did, even if he's not being honest about his willingness in the act.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:51 AM
5

Rape fantasies are fairly common, regardless of how disgusted and outraged public opinion claims to be. That's why 50 Shades of Gray sold over 80 million copies. That's why there's an entire porn market dedicated to rape and forced sex. It's one of the reasons why BDSM is a thing. There's nothing inherently "wrong" with being aroused by rape scenes in a movie. They're a fantasy, nobody is actually getting hurt. And as long as a person still maintains their empathy toward actual rape victims, I d…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:47 AM
2

It's all part of the whole "male gaze" garbage.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 02:41 AM
0

The metaphor is in the astronomically low chance of not getting royally fucked by your own actions, not in the legality.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 07:44 PM
-1

Yeah, work those ad hominems!! Come on, I know you can do it!!
/r/MensRights04/05/13 07:08 PM
3

Yeah, 700 people staring at him was too much fear for him to handle, so he just let the girl rape him. I totally believe that.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 06:46 PM
3

If you seriously think that the girl who pulled this stunt wouldn't have gotten thrown in the slammer, had the guy actually stopped what he was doing and told his staff to get the crazy bitch out of his pants, then you're a little bit deluded.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 06:45 PM
-5

Am i allowed to go up to random girls, pull down their trousers and start oral sex on them? You can, though you might go to prison over it. The line between sex and rape is consent. When you just start touching on somebody, you're basically playing russian roulette with a loaded gun. If the gun jams, then you win. What the girl did may have been rude, trashy, disrespectful, slutty, and anything in-between. But when the guy on the receiving end decided to just shrug and keep singing, he waived an…
/r/MensRights04/05/13 06:00 PM
5

So is this a self-fulfilling prophecy? Do publishers send female-lead games out to die without proper support? “I think it might be, and I think in some cases, though this is a guess, that these games may be considered more niche, and you advertise niche games less,” Zatkin said. It’s also hard to draw many broad conclusions from this data. A blanket statement that female-led games get 50% less funding than male-led games is misleading.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 05:18 PM
37

Yeah, as much as I want to get up in arms about sexual assault, he just stood there in front of 700 people and let her suck away. If he tried to push her off and she just kept going at it, that'd be one thing. But he just kept singing away while his pants were on the floor, so I'm not really sure there's anything to be upset about, here.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 04:44 PM
7

TIL sex I didn't like is rape.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 04:31 PM
8

Women aren't children. If they don't want to have sex, they can speak the fuck up and say so. Putting the onus on the male to check in with her to make sure she's still consenting is patronizing and disgusting. Any decent person who believes that their sex partner isn't enjoying themselves will stop and make sure everything is OK. But if for some reason that doesn't happen (drunk, rough sex, BDSM, etc), it's not the man's responsibility if she doesn't like it but just lays there any doesn't say …
/r/MensRights04/05/13 04:30 PM
2

When was their conference scheduled again? I want to see if they still go through with their plan to "show up anyway."
/r/MensRights04/05/13 05:16 AM
2

Same here when I worked at Burger King back in 2005.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 05:01 AM
1

I have a theory that at least half the world's violent crimes stem from the male drive to protect and fend for women.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 04:54 AM
3

I can confirm that, as a white male, I am completely and utterly unspeshul.
/r/MensRights04/05/13 04:40 AM
2

If our country cares more about the rare white male shooting up a school than the countless shootings that happen in black neighborhoods all across the country, what makes you think anybody's going to give a shit about this?
/r/MensRights28/04/13 03:15 PM
6

A comment from the article linked below the guy's video: I don't think anyone is mocking rape. They're mocking this woman who, bluntly, deserves mockery. The fundamentals of her argument suggest that she will find anything even remotely fierce "encouraging rape". Well, no. There's nothing about a husky or any number of other fierce, aggressive and, yes, intimidating things that really has anything in the world to do with Ms. Luby and her vagina. And I hate to have to break it to her (and to you,…
/r/MensRights28/04/13 03:09 PM
1

Crazy people being crazy isn't an MRA issue. If this went to court and she got away with it scott free, then it'd be an MRA issue.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 03:56 PM
6

Without specifically targeting men's rights, an apathetic term like "gender" rights would get usurped and appropriated by the feminist movement in no time.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 03:38 PM
-1

This story seems like a sensationalist work of fiction. Low on details, high on accusations, and for somebody who wants to get out their story, the conclusion is especially weak. Not to mention all the pictures make it look very cutsie. People that go through horrible childhoods have my sympathy, but this doesn't read like somebody who's actually trying to share his trauma.
/r/MensRights27/04/13 06:26 AM
-1

She told him to stop, and he went further. It's like you didn't even read the same story.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 04:47 PM
1

This isn't "positive discrimination," it's "privilege." Discrimination doesn't mean getting treated different, it means getting treated poorly. Don't encourage feminists by buying into the "positive sexism" garbage. For men, they call it "privilege." Don't let them ignore their own privilege by calling it something else.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 05:49 AM
5

And that's where they'll start calling you a misogynist, rape-apologist, etc. It's a never-ending cycle :P
/r/MensRights26/04/13 05:01 AM
1

If something is wrong, we should be unafraid to declare it so. You're right. But this isn't objectively "wrong," either. Sexualization and sexism are two different things.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 05:00 AM
2

But women aren't taken seriously, because objectification! Glass ceiling! Patriarchy!
/r/MensRights26/04/13 04:58 AM
1

The news has more problems than talking about whether politicians are physically attractive or not. I feel like nitpicking commentary about physical attraction is sort of ridiculous when we're talking about a system that has bigger issues, like promoting fear-mongering and sensationalism.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 04:42 AM
2

This is really the best answer. And honestly, if somebody buys into the patriarchy, the only reason you should bother to argue the point is if you have an audience that can be swayed. And even then, you don't argue the validity of patriarchy, you create arguments that outline how bat-shit crazy their theory is.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 04:32 AM
4

Well I would ask you what specifically about men's issues being caused by patriarchy causes them not to matter. They do matter, but women have it worse, and if we work to help women, men benefit, too!! Your move :P
/r/MensRights26/04/13 04:29 AM
36

I read: I need feminism because I'm not getting paid enough for all the effort I've put into pussy-whipping my boyfriend. I need feminism because my girlfriend says so.
/r/MensRights26/04/13 01:27 AM
3

Your "logic" -- for example, pointing out that the woman was charged with a 20-year-old crime -- is an exercise in picking out some arbitrary thing just to minimize the emotional impact of my post. So you admit that your post is an appeal to emotion, rather than any attempt at logical and reasonable comparison. It's not arbitrary if it has an actual affect on how we can expect the judicial system to act. You also managed to completely gloss over the fact that the woman was also previously acquit…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 05:10 PM
1

Except your "point" only holds water if the actual incidents are in some way similar to one another. In this case, none of them are at all similar, except for being sexual offenses. Also, your statement that: And at least sometimes, society is more repulsed when the victim is a dog. Doesn't really stand up when one of the articles itself places 7 years for child abuse alongside 1 year for animal abuse within the same paragraph of one another. Yes, we know that women generally get shorter sentenc…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 04:34 PM
3

It should be noted that the woman in the first report was charged with a 20-year-old crime, of which she had previously been acquitted. I'm not sure we can really make a case for equal offense without knowing the details of the story, which are rather sparse from this article. Also, the title of this is misleading. The second article shows that the woman is also serving seven years for "first-degree endangering the welfare of a child, second-degree statutory sodomy, [and] use of a child in a sex…
/r/MensRights25/04/13 03:49 PM
3

I have a very hard time seeing, "But he came inside!!" as rape. It might have been manipulative (assuming he lied about his intentions up front), but rape? That seems a little sensational.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 03:39 PM
1

The wording almost makes it sound gender-neutral, until you realize that it only says that men shouldn't stay silent about sexual assault, and at the bottom is plastered "Women's Outreach."
/r/MensRights25/04/13 04:34 AM
0

The 13 prison guards are among 25 total defendants in the case, with many of the defendants reportedly facing 20-year sentences for racketeering and drug conspiracy. Twelve other people who were involved only got a 1-line mention at the end, and I'm sure at least some of them were male.
/r/MensRights25/04/13 04:22 AM
2

Can they do that? Wouldn't they have to refund your money if they refuse to allow you to attend the class?
/r/MensRights25/04/13 04:05 AM
3

lol awwww... BIG HUG!!
/r/MensRights25/04/13 03:58 AM
-4

I didn't say it was "ok," I said it wasn't sexual assault, and that she isn't a "victim."
/r/MensRights24/04/13 10:01 PM
-8

Oh for christ sake, he was a teenage boy trying to cop a feel. He stopped when she said to stop, and it never went any further. "Victim," my ass.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 09:14 PM
1

No, what it does is wastes time and money on something that doesn't actually matter in order to appease the smallest percentage of people possible: professional victims. It sets a bad precedent, and only encourages those people with infinitesimal nits to pick to speak louder.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 06:25 PM
1

Because it's fixing what isn't broke?
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:13 PM
1

[I feel like politicians and feminists alike need to take an etymology class.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_(word)
/r/MensRights24/04/13 04:35 PM
1

I don't understand how anybody could believe that this is in any way a step toward equality. It's definitely a step toward stupidity, but we've been taking giant leaps in that direction for years, now.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 04:32 PM
-5

Yeah, the "victim." /eyeroll
/r/MensRights24/04/13 03:53 PM
3

I've gotta admit, I'm kinda looking forward to it! If they really follow through, the blowback will be HUGE. The fallout from that sort of thing would be highly amusing :D
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:36 AM
-4

I agree. We don't know if this girl was raped or not, there's absolutely not enough information in this article to even make an educated guess. It's not even statutory rape, because the older woman was less than 10 years the younger girl's senior.
/r/MensRights24/04/13 05:28 AM
2

You're assuming that women would actually change their tack, just because they aren't getting what they want. People who are that selfish usually just complain more.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 07:24 PM
53

This was posted with the picture. And before you ask, no the original formatting didn't have any paragraphs. PLEASE READ THIS THOROUGHLY because this needs some explanation since it has been shared many times over, and I don't want anyone to interpret this the wrong way. The statement means just what it says. People cosplay because they choose to. It is not some special right or title bestowed on someone like a crown bestowed on royalty. You are no more special than the guy standing next to you …
/r/MensRights23/04/13 07:18 PM
2

The problem, as I see it, is that this is only a symptom of the root issue. That root issue being that little girls are taught from a young age by their mothers to be ashamed of their bodies and scared of everything that moves, then those little girls grow up to be women with children of their own, and they teach their children to be ashamed of their bodies and scared of everything that moves, and the cycle continues. This issue is why feminism has been so incredibly effective at selling their f…
/r/MensRights23/04/13 06:58 PM
2

Crosshook is just one of those people. He makes good points from time to time, but most of the time he's speaking out of anger and spite. Don't take it too seriously.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 06:52 PM
4

"Biotruths," amirite?
/r/MensRights23/04/13 06:45 PM
1

You mean all the ones that are currently subscribed to SRS? Or all who've posted on there? Or what? I had to stop myself from typing "SRS" as "Serious," because that's how I pronounce their sub in my head xD
/r/MensRights23/04/13 06:08 PM
2

Talk about "not perfectly automated." I just tried it, and at least half the SRS posters aren't tagged.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 05:58 PM
14

This should be seen by everyone, if for no other reason to make sure that the person who was originally fingered has their name properly cleared. It's not unusual for mistaken and false accusations to be more public than the retractions that clear those peoples' names.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 05:30 AM
14

Thing is, they didn't actually cut off anybody's freedom of speech. They had a peaceful protest, and the people who run the center realized that they didn't want Radfem running their convention there. The problem with the Toronto protests was never the protests themselves, but the violent nature of them, and the attempt to shut down the lectures by force.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 05:19 AM
3

Which is why I threw "relevant to the discussion" since we are discussing an underage boy. Regardless, let's take your tack here. Ultimately your view then has to be that the cut off point is too high. No, my point is that the cut-off point should not be an arbitrary number. No, you don't. However, I see very few people defending the "pedophiles" who are in jail for having sex with a fourteen or fifteen year old girl on the basis that the girl was 'willing' or 'interested'. What other people do …
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:38 PM
3

Because becoming the MRA version of a man-hating feminist will totally not make you look like an insane person.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 03:32 PM
3

He could have been 11 in middle school (first year) so he is 14, three years later. I think a 14 year old giving consent is not cut and dry, especially with an adult who has power over him and is far older. I started masturbating when I was 11, and would have been eager to jump at the chance of sticking my dick into somebody by the time I was 14. Your assertion is presumptuous and narrow-minded. Just because you believe it to be so doesn't change what it actually is (or might have been). I think…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 02:39 PM
3

The OP is pretty cut and dry. The sex situation happened 3 years after the time where he walked in on his step-mother and his friend, and during that first incident he was in middle school. I don't see how that can be confusing in any way. I'm not arguing propriety, I'm arguing a teenager's ability to consent, despite what the law actually states. The second to last statement ("... but I willingly accepted the offer.") makes this a murky case where the consent of the teenager was unclear. His wo…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 07:19 AM
8

If a person is not old enough to understand the full consequences of sexual activity, is that person capable of consent? Depends on what you mean by "understand[ing] the full consequences of sexual activity." There are grown adults that still don't grasp the consequences of their actions. And your question also appears to imply that the boy that wrote the statement from the OP didn't understand the consequences, but this is conjecture based on your own biases, not fact. The context of this piece…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 06:57 AM
19

The law exists because we, as a society, have decided that those below a certain age (which seems to be 16 in most of the western world) don't have the mental faculties to provide meaningful consent. It has been defined, for all practical purposes, to be the same as forcible rape. The law exists because it was easier to create an arbitrary cutoff age than developing a flexible system that would allow for differing verdicts based on differing circumstances. Psychology is a fairly new field of sci…
/r/MensRights22/04/13 06:46 AM
22

Don't give me that "legally" garbage. Consent differs in different parts of the world, and consent in one country may not equal consent in another. Legal consent has zilch to do with practical consent and willingness.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 06:09 AM
3

Shrugs Her decision to keep it. Admittedly, she seems more concerned about her job and the relationship with her boss than she does about the child. She's incredibly stupid, and he's incredibly manipulative, but the fact that all the comments deal with lawyering up and trying to stick him with child support just sucks.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 05:05 AM
22

Alternatively, the number of people who are socialized to believe that teenagers are incapable of genuinely consenting to sex with an adult is immense. It's impossible to tell whether or not this was the case with this specific incident. The guy said that he willingly did it, but there's no indication if that willingness was coerced or not.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 04:52 AM
2

Sounds more like a chance for blue balls to me.
/r/MensRights22/04/13 01:54 AM
1

Ignorance of the law does not excuse breaking it. This is the biggest bullshit excuse for prosecution I've ever heard. Fuck cultural differences, fuck being lied to or manipulated or used... I can't even describe how much I fucking hate this statement, and the fact that most law is built on that premise.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 10:31 PM
1

I find it amusing, and sort of sad, how many people can't seem to notice the blatant humor in this post.
/r/MensRights21/04/13 10:29 PM
-1

Rebellious comment detected, Brain Police are being sent to your house now, enjoy the brainwashing buttcleansing at your local prison. FTFY
/r/MensRights21/04/13 10:21 PM
1

/facepalm Putting aside how incredibly stupid the term "ageism" is, it's not discrimination to make the factual statement that children usually don't have the worldly experience necessary to make a rational and well-reasoned argument that doesn't fall back on simply parroting what they've been taught by their parents and teachers. There's a gulf of difference between, "Don't take what this person says seriously because they're too young to know any better," and, "Don't hold this person to the sa…
/r/MensRights20/04/13 08:01 PM
1

Children say stupid things all the time. Maybe we shouldn't be putting the spotlight on somebody who isn't old enough to understand how the world actually works and is still operating under the instruction manual laid out by her parents.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 04:23 PM
1

Relevant.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 08:09 PM
5

Step 1: Turn 80 .... There is no step 2. Just get really old so that nobody sees you as a threat anymore.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 08:02 PM
19

Obviously men are privileged, duh! Women are so oppressed by the male gaze that it's required that they have a woman-only exercise period. Individual men may be uncomfortable with exercising in front of women, but men as a whole have it better because they don't get sexualized and objectified, and they don't have creepy guys trying to hit on them while they're working out!! /s
/r/MensRights19/04/13 07:56 PM
3

Which is why the mods created the sub /r/mensrants, in an attempt to funnel that sort of tangential garbage from the main sub.
/r/MensRights19/04/13 04:24 AM
3

Isn't that what *67 is for?
/r/MensRights18/04/13 08:46 PM
14

She did say that she's willing to do anonymous interviews. Although I would feel better if the OP would state where/when they intend to broadcast the story.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:34 PM
1

Louis C.K. has a long history of, "I don't give a shit what you think, I'm going to do things my own way." This isn't him bowing to pressure. He's more concerned with being open to different viewpoints than he is in taking a side on politically-charged issues. Which is great, except where his M.O. takes him to the wrong conclusion.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:04 PM
-4

This is not true. If you accept that the foreskin is a functional part of the penis then you must also accept that excising it incurs a degradation of penile function. If you can get an erection and orgasm, then it is fucking working. Degradation of function may or may not happen (there are experts that claim both), but as long as your penis functions the way it's supposed to, then your complaint is largely academic. It's not about whether it's pointless or not, it's about whether it is reasonab…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 06:35 AM
-2

Having your foreskin cut off is like having your fingernails or your nipples removed at birth. You're technically deformed/mutilated, and it's disgusting that somebody thought it was a good idea (regardless of their reasoning), but you've grown up without it and turned out just fine, perfectly able to function in all ways like a mature adult. So why are you focusing all your energy at being pissed off at something that you've lived with just fine all your life and you can't change, instead of fo…
/r/MensRights18/04/13 06:11 AM
-2

I was obviously speaking in relation to this specific topic. No need to go off the deep end, Ahab.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:48 AM
7

Depends. If the baby is a boy, then he's a rapist. If the baby is a girl, everybody looks away and pretends it never happened.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:46 AM
2

I think that mixed-gender housing results in cleaner tenants, since nobody wants to look like a slob in front of the opposite sex.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:44 AM
3

Obvious troll is obvious.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:42 AM
2

Sighs And Louis C.K. disappoints me. He listens to a handful of feminist harpies carrying on about rape culture and fear culture and doesn't even bother to do any critical thinking on the issue. "Well, they feel that way, and they have a right to feel any way they want, so I'll just take their feelings at face value." Louis C.K. is a laid-back guy, and he's very open-minded, but apparently critical thinking isn't his strong suit.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 05:16 AM
-6

People take, "It's wrong, for reasons X, Y and Z," and extrapolate that into, "I should feel angry, because it's wrong for reasons X, Y and Z." I agree that circumcision needs to die out, but I see no reason to get pissed and angry about something that's already happened.
/r/MensRights18/04/13 04:55 AM
6

This is really important. A large part of this whole thing is understanding the core issues and where they stem from. Feminism isn't the root of all evil, it's just an unfortunate overreaction to certain biological and cultural trends - the deeply rooted need to protect and defer women and their needs, and the increases in technology and spread of media over the last century.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 05:02 PM
0

I think I'm going to have a heart attack and die of not-surprise.
/r/MensRights17/04/13 02:19 AM
1

That's why you lift with your legs >.>
/r/MensRights17/04/13 12:47 AM
2

It's the only way they can convince themselves that The Patriarchy™ exists. Afterall, if boys were just as intelligent as girls, that would mean that they actually earn their positions. That idea would undermine the entire movement.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:51 PM
3

The ironic thing is that he's basically saying, "If you wanted more rights, you should have been born a woman!" Which amuses me in several ways.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:49 PM
6

AVFM already put a notice up that they don't approve of anybody spreading Big Red's information. Of course, Futrelle managed to completely gloss over that tidbit. Ask me if I'm surprised.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:25 PM
1

I would pay money to see his face when you said that.
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:21 PM
1

Am I the only one disgusted by this? "Hey, can we hire some men? I'm not able to do my job, so I'd like a big strong man around to do it for me."
/r/MensRights16/04/13 11:04 PM
1

Yeah, I've never heard of a single female CEO that wasn't just as cut-throat and competitive as the male CEOs (and that goes the same for every high-status career). It's the nature of the beast; when you're pushing for the top, you have to sacrifice yourself and others to make yourself stand out from the rest. I haven't decided if that's a good thing or a bad thing, though. On the one hand, that extreme form of competition pushes technology and the evolution of our species. On the other hand, th…
/r/MensRights15/04/13 03:50 AM
1

I won't even take my gf's side in an argument without getting all the information. I refuse to buy into the idea that a guy is supposed to always take his gf's side, no matter what. I'll be there for my girl in whatever way I can be, but I have a mind of my own, and I'm not going to support something blindly, much less something I disagree with.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 03:41 AM
1

Hypoagency at its best. Or its worst. Depending on your point of view.
/r/MensRights15/04/13 03:40 AM
1

Yep. No evidence of discrimination here, just one teacher being retarded, and the administration being even more retarded.
/r/MensRights14/04/13 02:07 AM
4

Trans doesn't have enough traction to trump black, and gays have made too many legal strides for their cause. "We were slaves once," is the gift that keeps on giving.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:01 PM
0

Is this... is this a serious post? I'm not sure if I'm reading something stupid, or something ironic.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 03:31 PM
1

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm telling you that getting a dedicated feminist to admit that feminist theories are wrong is like trying to convince a christian that god doesn't exist.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 03:18 PM
1

That's not going to help even a little bit. Before this will even stand on its own two feet, you first have to convince a feminist that feminist theory is wrong. And if that were possible... well, we wouldn't need this sub.
/r/MensRights11/04/13 07:06 AM
0

It's the sane feminists that allow the insane ones to run amok with anti-male sentiments and legislation. It's the entire basis of NAFALT arguments, and provides a perfect shifting goalpost to dodge accusations of misandry.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:29 PM
3

Actually, the plaintiff would have to show it was discrimination.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:28 PM
4

It's a shame that she insists on clinging to that feminist label.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 03:47 PM
1

This doesn't prove that there was a gender bias. People get passed over all the time due to things not listed on their resume. One time, a friend and I were both applying for the same job and he got it over me because, according to the manager, my friend made more eye contact.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 03:42 PM
40

I wish to understand it as a lesson in the complexity of ideologies of domination which impress oppression on a multiplicity of intersections. Dear god, it's like she's shooting for the guinness book of world records. "Most useless buzzwords in a single sentence."
/r/MensRights10/04/13 03:22 PM
4

The problem I have with this story is that the teacher has a shitty sense of humor. There's no punchline to this supposed joke. It's, "Women do more work than men! Huehuehuehuehue!" It's just an excuse to shit on men and feel superior.
/r/MensRights10/04/13 05:28 AM
3

Yep. You'll have to pry that victim card from her cold, dead fingers.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 06:12 PM
2

We oppress them, because we fear their superiority.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 06:04 PM
5

But it's different, because they're right! /s
/r/MensRights09/04/13 06:04 PM
7

The response I always get is, "Women are more subject to being victims of domestic violence!" which is untrue, "More women are killed due to domestic violence!" which is irrelevant, or, "Violence against men is perpetrated by other men!" which is also irrelevant. But it's impossible to talk sense into somebody who's dedicated to shifting the goalposts.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 06:00 PM
3

To be fair, the story was an actual story from a real person. Whether it had a political message or not, they didn't just make it up off the top of their head.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:31 PM
2

I'm not sure if I should laugh or cry at how naive you are. If you think putting things in a polite historical context for feminists to read is going to suddenly make them see the light of day, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:24 PM
1

I prefer "men's rights movement." Clear, concise, and doesn't string along any excess baggage.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:22 PM
3

So why infest this sub with stupid?
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:18 PM
28

"Biotruths," amirite?
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:18 PM
9

However, if we go by the logic set forth in this thread, homelessness isn't a gender issue, just because men make up more of the homeless population. Which I, in fact, agree with. The only reason "men make up more of the homeless" even matters is because it outlines a male disposability issue, where the majority of taxes go to help women in distress, while men can just go fuck themselves. It's only a gendered issue in the fact that men are basically ignored, and women being homeless is a travest…
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:11 PM
3

It's part of the Mary Koss study done in 1985 for Ms. Magazine.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:05 PM
17

And that's why the CDC link never works. m3t4lmaniac did exactly what every. single. feminist. does when presented with that link. They shoot straight for the "lifetime" statistics and completely ignore the annual numbers, then tell you that you're cherry picking and ignoring the real issues when you try to tell them that the lifetime numbers aren't as accurate.
/r/MensRights09/04/13 05:03 PM
0

As long as you do your part to keep the romance alive, and make sure that he knows he's loved and appreciated, I don't think you'll have that problem. :)
/r/MensRights09/04/13 04:56 PM
1

... I took this as a joke. I thought it was rather amusing.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 08:13 PM
0

Oh, you mean "holding a box cutter limply in your hand"? Because that's totally the same as "brandishing a box cutter."
/r/MensRights08/04/13 07:09 PM
1

Maybe. We can't know, because the only information we have is that they were supposedly offering him a ride home.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 07:08 PM
1

I'm just saying, if it were a woman raped by four men, "I didn't think they posed a threat," wouldn't change the fact that getting into a car with four complete strangers is incredibly stupid.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:04 PM
1

Yeah, because clapping one-handed totally works. You know damn well why they brought the noise-makers. The protesters could have just as easily ripped the posters off their sticks and used them as weapons if they really wanted to. You're trying to sensationalize something that never happened.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:00 PM
2

And yet, everybody seems to be perfectly willing to get within face-beating range, despite the supposed "threat" of people with sticks. I guess they were just completely oblivious of the danger at hand. It's funny how there was no call of "brandishing weapons" until it's revealed that there was a physical altercation. A physical altercation, might I add, in which the stick wasn't actually used as a weapon.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:55 PM
1

If we're not going to give into feminist ideas of "victim blaming," then we have to set the same standards for both sexes. If we can ask, "Why did you do that?" to a woman, than the question should be equally valid if a man does it. Rape is never the fault of the victim, but that doesn't mean that stupid decisions can't put us in situations we wouldn't otherwise normally have been in. So again, I ask, why did he climb into a car with four complete strangers?
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:52 PM
2

He might have been instigating, but that doesn't mean much. The old man seemed equally ready to take offense, and took the first swing. Any person who was calm and collected in that situation would probably have just moved to a spot where the megaphone wasn't blaring in their face. You know, instead of starting a fight. I'm not saying that either of these people were in the right. I'm just saying that this entire topic is disingenuous. It was mutual dicketry.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:49 PM
2

So you wouldn't feel threatened if someone was screaming at you with a megaphone and waving a 4' long stick? No, I wouldn't. Being annoying isn't the same thing as being a threat.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:45 PM
2

The protester shouted at him through a megaphone within a distance of about six feet. That can cause pain and permanent hearing loss. The protester was shouting in every direction. He just happened to turn in that direction and they were really close to him. I didn't see any intentional baiting on his part. It appeared more of a lack of situational awareness. Sticks make very effective weapons. Someone trained in stick fighting could kill you in a second. Yeah, so do a high heel or keys in the r…
/r/MensRights08/04/13 05:44 PM
5

You have to realize that since "men can't be raped," a man claiming that he's been raped is funny, because "he got lucky and just couldn't handle it," or, "he's stronger than her, he could have fought her off any time he wanted," or, "he must be a really huge pussy." When a person buys into the idea that men can't be raped, stories of men actually getting raped have to be laughed off for their sheer audacity and implausibility.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:32 AM
1

This video is horrible. It's unfocused, doesn't even show what happened, and the title itself is misleading. Another post notes that there is a better video of the event. First off, I'm tired of this "brandishing a weapon" bullshit. It wasn't a weapon, it was a stick. It was a stick that was being used as a noisemaker. A number of the protesters had them. Secondly, The old man started the whole thing by getting up in the protester's face and trying to smack the megaphone away from him. Thirdly, …
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:27 AM
9

You'd be surprised. It has a lot to do with the persistent idea that men can't be raped.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 06:07 AM
1

This story sucks if true, but I'm wondering why he climbed into a car with four complete strangers.
/r/MensRights08/04/13 01:24 AM
16

The idea behind it is that feminists constantly claim that feminism is about "equality," (cue copypasta from dictionary.com) so this message challenges feminists to either admit that they're not for equality, or to change views on gender-symmetrical issues.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 10:31 PM
1

As somebody who isn't paranoid and doesn't assume that the presence of sharp objects means somebody is going to get cut, I don't feel threatened when somebody I'm arguing with happens to have something that could be used as a weapon in their hand while we're having an argument. They would have to actually... you know... act like a threat for me to feel that way. And for somebody who supposed felt threatened by people "waving around" and "brandishing" boxcutters, JtO sure as hell doesn't seem to …
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:55 PM
1

I'll have to tell my mom to put the kitchen knife down before we have an argument, the next time she's cooking. Obviously, I don't want to feel that having a sharp object in her hand at the same time that we're having a conversation is a threat to my well-being.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 07:47 PM
12

Hence, "generally speaking." Please don't conflate my mention of general biological trends with an assertion of individual certainty.
/r/MensRights07/04/13 07:46 PM
25

The lack of black people in CEO positions in fortune 500 companies can be explained with the same logic that explains black people making up a higher percentage of jailed criminals: shitty socio-economical status and a lack of decent education. That is, of course, not even touching on the simple idea of time. You know, the whole, "People don't become CEOs overnight, and all the rich white people who are there now got started in the business back in the 60's and 70's when civil rights were still …
/r/MensRights07/04/13 06:37 PM
2

"But women are only trying to make a place in the war-torn world men created! It's not their fault if they have to play by the rules of the Patriarchy™!!"
/r/MensRights07/04/13 08:32 AM
-1

Think of it this way... Which is worse, a girl waking up to her boyfriend tonguing her clit? Or somebody she didn't want to have sex with (at all) railing away inside of her?
/r/MensRights06/04/13 08:10 PM
12

You can say the word as many times as you want, it doesn't change the fact that this situation isn't nearly as extreme as you're making it out to be. Rape rape rape rapity rape rapey raper Mcraperson. Is it more rapey now? Seriously, we don't need to get sucked into doing the same shit that feminists do. We can be helpful and sympathetic without calling for peoples' heads. You know as well as I do that there's a distinct difference in severity between full blown rape and what happened to this gu…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 07:59 PM
8

It wasn't really sex, it was oral. I wouldn't consider a handjob sex either. What I'd like to know is why you're so adamant about it it not being rape and trying to talk about everything but what she actually did. Because rape is a very serious offense, and there's a gulf of a difference between forcible full-blown rape, and half a groggy blowjob from your girlfriend. As a male who has had this happen to him before (girl I was into waking me up with a blowjob when I'd already made it clear I was…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 06:52 PM
10

I'd go more with "sexual assault," because I feel that this isn't extreme enough to be considered rape, but that's just my opinion. What I'd like to know is why you're so adamant about equating it to rape. The biggest issue here isn't that she did it, it's that she didn't care about your feelings over what she did. She's shown a complete and utter lack of empathy, and even laughed in your face over it. That's what I'd be more upset about, were I in your shoes, not whether or not I could call it …
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:29 PM
28

I genuinely lol'd at this.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:22 PM
6

I'll say here what I said when somebody posted this over on /r/srssucks. Her content is good, but I hate her delivery. It's like she's more worried about not offending people than actually making her point. "I do not want to invalidate anything Anita has said. She is a well-spoken individual that is speaking on behalf of the double-X chromosome family I belong to and I do not want my opinions to be misconstrued as attacking her views in any way." Yes, yes you do. You just spent 11 minutes invali…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:07 PM
1

We're not talking about chronic behavior, though.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:48 PM
1

Maybe I should have prefaced my statement with, "I agree with you." You know, so you didn't turn into a douchenozzle at the drop of a hat.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 07:55 AM
5

"Not All Feminists Are Like That"
/r/MensRights06/04/13 07:25 AM
1

Most people in a professional setting prefer to have problems taken directly to them, instead of the person running off and crying to Big Daddy HR. If somebody is being inappropriate, the first attempt to stop them should be a face-to-face discussion, not a post-it on their permanent file.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 06:21 AM
3

But what sort of corrective action? Stupidity can usually be cured with information and communication. It's malice that typically needs a firmer hand, and the intervention of a third party.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:54 AM
2

Right. But at what point do we separate "sexism" from "tactlessness" or "jackassery" or just "being too personal"? Accusations of sexism are loaded with a shit ton of baggage and can land a person in hot water. And often, a person's actions aren't due to any specific attempt at singling out a person based on sex. As the saying goes, "Never attribute to malice what one can attribute to stupidity." There's no reason to mark a person's actions as sexist just because the recipient of the unwanted co…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:27 AM
5

There's a chasm of difference between being a little too personal in a professional setting and, "...having a boss who treats me as some fuckable window dressing... "
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:11 AM
2

This feels like a reading of Super Special Snowflake Syndrome (4S for short) than an exploration of masculinity. The faux-masculinity described in the lesbian community isn't the same as real masculinity, and the author of this article seems to have completely conflated the two. In the end, he (She? This person still has a vagina and "feels feminine," despite having breasts removed.) is trying to find a gender identity in the midst of a very black-and-white, binary understanding of gender identi…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:08 AM
0

I really wish people would use appropriate terminology instead of using the first word that pops into their head. I get the feeling it comes from creating a generation that looks down on and despises reading.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 04:04 AM
6

They're just resorting to NAFALT arguments. That shouldn't really be a surprise though, it's the go-to argument for "true feminists."
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:53 AM
3

The thing is, they would have had something negative to say no matter how you answered. If you'd said that you in fact did masturbate regularly, they would have tried to draw parallels between your "wasted" sperm and abortion. Which, of course, is ridiculous. First and foremost because a sperm is not a potential human being any more than an egg in a woman's ovaries. Secondly, to claim that masturbation is the equivalent of abortion, one would have to argue that every single sperm that didn't mee…
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:44 AM
6

Wasn't there a research project recently that pretty much debunked the entire notion that human trafficking is a massive problem in the US? Something about the wide majority of sex workers choosing to do so because of personal finance issues, rather than any sort of force or coercion from a third party.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:35 AM
15

"Instead of obsessing about false accusations, what are you doing to help real rape victims?" "I'm obsessing about false accusations. You know, the same false accusations that make it harder to get real rape victims to be taken seriously? Yeah, those false accusations."
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:31 AM
8

They're too busy whining and crying and being a fucking victim of this so called 'oppression' rather than actually working to get something done. I find this highly amusing, since the feminists are there to protest a lecture that was designed specifically to spread awareness of the issues.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:30 AM
8

Heh... private dongle...
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:26 AM
1

There's a difference between redheads, and people who die their hair a primary color :P
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:25 AM
8

Yeah... Marcotte is a dumbass like always, but in this case I actually agree with the premise. That premise being that personal compliments should be held for personal situations, and not waved around in professional public settings. Of course, Marcotte misses that point altogether and tries to paint it as some undermining of women's liberty and rights. Honestly, she almost brings Poe's Law down on top of herself.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 03:18 AM
13

Unless you're Fallon Fox.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 02:57 AM
1

To be fair, it's not like men are the only one who deal with that sort of thing. The same thing happens on the women's side with lesbians. It's just one of those cultural anomalies that society hasn't worked the kinks out of quite yet.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 02:53 AM
5

Feminists don't actually care about trans* people, they'll just use any excuse to attack somebody who's a supporter of Men's Rights.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 02:49 AM
1

I'm not very interested in the whole trans* discussion, but this comment is rather bigoted.
/r/MensRights06/04/13 02:29 AM
15

The sad thing is, this is actually true. I don't think the majority of those people actually know why they're protesting. They're just told that MRAs are misogynists who want women back in the kitchen, so they start frothing at the mouth.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 07:05 PM
3

Ask them if they believe in The Patriarchy™. If the answer is, "No," or, "What's that?" then they might be sane. Misguided, but sane.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:27 PM
3

You are seeing extremist feminism. It's very much the same as if Manhood Academy presented itself as a Men's Rights group (and meant/believed in it, instead of being the hopefully satirical thing it is). The difference is, every MRA group I've ever run into has publicly and unequivocally denounced Manhood Academy. They don't represent the Men's Rights movement, and anybody who's been involved in this topic for any length of time knows it.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:16 PM
11

Because during the first protest with Warren Farrell, AVFM hit some of their more violent protesters hard by identifying them and placing their images on register-her.com. So now, they hide their identities behind masks and bandannas so they can't be fingered, claiming that they're doing it to "avoid harassment and threats from MRA groups." Which, by the way, is illegal in Canada. Not that the police will do anything about it.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:07 PM
6

Did you watch the JtO poster teardown video? Some male feminists made that same argument on that video. I think the canadian feminist groups actually believe that shit.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 05:02 PM
6

It's kinda like how a lot of MRA outlets like to talk about feminists "brandishing box cutters" during the poster teardown event with JtO, despite the fact that they never showed any indication that they were threatening him with physical violence, with or without the box cutters. I'm all for calling feminists out on their shit, but there's a point where I just have to be like, "Come on, let's be serious."
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:57 PM
6

Ok, so, when I look at a girl, the sex part of my brain automatically sizes her up as a potential sexual partner. I can tell you in a heartbeat whether or not I would fuck her, based purely on physical attraction. If that same woman came up to me and said, "Will you come back to my place and fuck me?" the sex part of my brain will scream at me, "YEAH! FUCK HER! DO IT DO IT FUCK IT DO IT!!!" But the rational part of my brain might say, "I don't know this chick. This might be a joke. She might be …
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:50 AM
2

Christina Hoff Sommers authored this article, exploring feminist-touted rape numbers and the research studies used to establish those figures.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:24 AM
2

The issue is that men's biology keeps them primed for sex pretty much all the time. But there's a difference between "constantly ready" and "constantly desiring."
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:19 AM
3

The day I changed was the day a boy I had been bullying got so mad he broke my arm. I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but there's a lot of truth to the idea that women will stop thinking it's OK to hit people when they actually get hit back. It sounds like you came from a family that heavily enforced gender roles. This sucks for both men and women, although it's easy to imagine that we're getting the short end of the stick, sometimes. Just keep that in mind when you build a family of you…
/r/MensRights05/04/13 04:17 AM
1

Yeah, sorry, I didn't sense the sarcasm from your post lol.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 02:45 AM
0

Stupidity isn't a crime, even if it is very, very unfortunate.
/r/MensRights05/04/13 01:50 AM
4

It specifically says "heterosexism," so that sort of distinction is difficult to glean from this article. Wouldn't be the first time I've seen a SJW nutjob actually try to claim that heterosexuality is wrong.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:42 PM
9

These people are paranoid and terrified. What are they so scared of? They're scared that if enough people start believing the truth, they'll lose their... privilege.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:38 PM
9

Two reasons: 1) Men's rights involves erasing male disposability, which would effectively erode the bedrock that feminism is built upon. 2) Men's rights encourages the idea that women are just as capable of violence and hatred as men - an idea that would destroy feminism's ability to spread their perma-victim agenda.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:36 PM
2

I'm more amused when people blame heterosexuality from behind a beating heart and a set of functioning genitalia.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 08:28 PM
0

Are you kidding? This is blatanly feminist propaganda. Any time women don't receive what men receive or better, it's a troubling failure of the system, and it doesn't matter if the starting point for women is already ahead of men or not. It's only feminist propaganda if you believe that the reporter actually knows what the hell she's talking about, which she obviously doesn't.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 05:20 PM
2

No, but see, our betters should be given a free pass. They're so amazing that they should no longer have to prove themselves. Then in 100 years when their skills have atrophied, we can overthrow them! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!
/r/MensRights04/04/13 05:16 PM
-1

This isn't feminist propaganda, it's somebody making stupid assertions based on a faulty understanding of numbers. If anything, the age gap is closing because fewer men are dying in the workplace than ever before, due to improved technology and improved safety procedures.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 04:55 PM
5

If she should be fired, it's not because of spreading feminist propaganda, it's for making stupid assertions in a national publication.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 04:53 PM
1

This isn't the 50's :P
/r/MensRights04/04/13 04:27 PM
2

For the record, "girl" is the female equivalent of both "boy" and "guy." Since "guy" doesn't have any age-related connotations, "girl" can similarly pass without an age bias.
/r/MensRights04/04/13 02:09 AM
2

Actually, men show more genetic disorders than women, since females carry two X chromosomes, allowing for redundancy, while males only carry one.
/r/MensRights03/04/13 12:22 AM
3

Since you didn't seem to understand me the first time, I'll reiterate. If you can find me even a single anecdotal story of a man raping a woman because of being shamed over being a virgin, I'll consider your theory.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 06:16 PM
2

When you can find even an anecdotal story of this actually happening, I might be willing to consider that this happens. Until then, it's all conjecture.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 06:11 PM
3

The equivalent of having sex and bearing the brunt of slut shaming is not having sex and bearing the brunt of virgin shaming. And within this same hypothetical construct, having sex and then calling rape is the equivalent of actually raping to avoid virgin shaming. However, there is no "slut shaming" equivalent of buying a hooker or just convincing a girl to have sex with you. There is also no equivalent of choosing to remain a virgin, despite getting shit for it. Despite an attempt to equate th…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 06:04 PM
3

It's logically sound if you don't recognize that there are alternate avenues for men's sexual expression.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 05:49 PM
2

But when's the last time you saw a case in the news where a guy raped somebody, "Because I was just tired of being called a virgin all the time!!" It seems to me that guys who are desperate enough can just pay for a hooker. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that I've seen no proof that it does.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 05:32 PM
3

I prefer to keep the discussion on western society, because other countries have massive problems that go far beyond "rape culture," and I prefer not to get into that discussion. And there is no proof that gender roles encourage rape. It may encourage false rape accusations ("Oh no, I might be branded a slut! It's ok, I'll just say he raped me!"), but I have never seen any evidence that virgin-shaming encourages men to rape women.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 05:22 PM
3

The term "rape culture" implies that there's a nefarious underlying intent to encourage rape in any form, when the exact opposite is true. Rape is seen as a heinous and unforgivable crime, rivaling murder in severity, to such an extent that the mere accusation is enough to completely destroy a person's life. Most situations that are encompassed in this supposed "rape culture" are simply cases of human fallibility. When you have a crime that comes down to "he said/she said," there's only so much …
/r/MensRights02/04/13 05:08 PM
4

It's mostly just to help crush the "men=perpetrators, women=victims" rhetoric repeated ad nauseum by feminists. Statistics only go so far, especially when the mainstream media refuses to spread them.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:59 PM
1

The phrasing makes it sound like a feminist troll. I assume that's why it got downvoted.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:55 PM
4

"Rape culture" is the idea that we live in a society whose attitudes about rape actively discourage victims from coming forward to finger their perpetrators, which in turn stimulates and encourages a higher number of actual rapes.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:47 PM
7

Rape culture isn't actually a thing, so beyond that, I'm not sure what you're talking about.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:32 PM
35

Wow, this looks like a powder keg ready to blow. I'm genuinely concerned for the safety of the men's rights groups that will be attending this event. On the other hand, I'm sort of excited to see the sort of hole these "militant feminists" dig themselves into.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:21 PM
6

Not sure why it's necessary to resort to name-calling. Chalk it up to people having a different opinion and leave it at that.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:17 PM
1

This sort of discussion really belongs in /r/mensrightsmeta. And even if it didn't, there wasn't a need to rip a discussion from the other thread (this entire thread is a response to another thread) and transplant it here. This could have easily remained in a single thread. Keep all the complaints and pissing contests and trolling consolidated in a single thread, IMO.
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:58 AM
5

Her sentiment is great, but she's still sipping from the feminist kool-aid, even if she doesn't realize it. Several times she mentioned that there are sexism problems in the industry, then went on to say that she's never experienced any of them, and failed to support her assertions with even anecdotal evidence. Also, I'm kinda tired of hearing, "OMG, booth babes are sexist!!" Tits get attention, that's why most female cosplayers tend to be half naked. When gaming conventions show a higher percen…
/r/MensRights02/04/13 04:51 AM
4

Why are we getting worked up over some unknown nutjob in one of the dark corners of tumblr?
/r/MensRights01/04/13 10:26 PM
1

And you now have a viking hat :P
/r/MensRights01/04/13 06:37 PM
1

That was my assumption as well. Makes me wonder if I should just log out of reddit for today and come back when all the trolls are back under their respective bridges.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 06:32 PM
2

I think you completely misread what I said. You might consider taking a chill pill and getting off the internet for a while. You know, relax and clear your mind. Then come back and chat when you're not so incredibly wound up.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 06:28 PM
5

Wow, the feminist trolls are out in full force today.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:45 PM
1

Hrm... yeah, I didn't really think about that. April Fool's day has never been an important day for me, and I hate pranks, so it usually goes unnoticed.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:43 PM
1

Well, I suppose it comes down to whether you'd rather pay 18 years for a child you don't want, or take the risk that the person is angry enough to go on a major online slander campaign. I'm not saying that doing this sort of thing to a woman is right, but she put him in this position, and the government sure as fuck isn't on his side.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:30 PM
1

Does it actually matter which it is?
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:26 PM
3

Who is "everybody"? Do you have mutual friends or something? The thing is, you literally have zero options at this point. The next 18 years of your life is entirely in her hands, so your only options are to capitulate or play dirty.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:15 PM
6

Being a girl is shameful, men are mocked for showing female characteristics I'm reeeeaaaally tired of seeing this argument.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:11 PM
5

I think it's time that we have mandatory feminist testing for androphobia.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:07 PM
3

I'm not sure it has anything to do with feminism other than another checkmark on the long list of "male problems that feminism supposedly works on." I would have preferred the title didn't even mention feminism at all, and just talked about the issue with boys.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 05:01 PM
-5

Was it really necessary to create an entirely new topic for this? I understand the annoyance, but all you're doing is just giving the trolls more attention than they deserve.
/r/MensRights01/04/13 04:30 AM
1

lol I know, right?
/r/MensRights01/04/13 02:48 AM
1

Which kinda boils down to the same thing.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 11:59 PM
1

It doesn't matter when the idea arose; when a person has shown themselves to be an obvious danger to society, others' well-being take precedence over that single person's right to freedom. It's the same reason why judges determine whether or not to set bail for certain criminal cases.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 10:48 PM
4

What the woman did was shitty as hell and pretty much unforgivable, but I can't in good conscience sit here and say that the guy didn't bring it onto himself. His actions were screaming for retribution of some sort.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:28 PM
1

I'm all for rehabilitation and working on mental illnesses and all that good stuff, but that doesn't mean that we let little shits run around stabbing people, with nothing more than a slap on the wrist. If you want to help people with this sort of disorder (assuming this is actually the case), you lock them the fuck up so that they can't be a danger to society while you treat their problem.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:19 PM
2

If they don't end up killing somebody else first.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:13 PM
7

It annoys me that people conflate pedophilia and child molestation.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:43 PM
15

Thank you for proving their point.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:41 PM
1

I think she meant that there aren't any legitimate women's issues left for a Women's Rights Movement to be useful. The swath of feminist issues that seem to crop up have nothing to do with equal rights, and everything to do with social norms and gender roles, which are mostly cultural things that are going to change with time.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:33 PM
11

Isn't this discussion more appropriate on another sub, like /r/srssucks? This sub is meant to talk about men's rights issues, not bang on about SRS and their circlejerk, no matter how tempting it may be.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 04:25 PM
1

Not sure why this is getting downvoted, since it's true, and every Manhood Academy post on this subreddit always gets massive downvotes for that exact reason.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 03:50 PM
2

I wasn't making excuses for her, only trying to establish a rationale for her (immature) behavior. Considering how confused the OP is with the whole situation.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 06:38 AM
4

Unless I'm missing something, feminist bloggers were completely silent when an 18-year-old girl did something similar last year with pro football player Joe Haden. Funny how that double standard works.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:35 AM
2

Don't take it personally, the sub just deals with a lot of feminist shills and trolls, and it's sometimes hard to tell the difference between them and people who are legitimately looking for information. I would suggest reading some articles on A Voice For Men, and watching GirlWritesWhat's youtube videos. That should give you a good start on understanding the MRM's primary concerns. Just don't get so caught up in the topic that you forget to relate to your friends as a regular person. Most peop…
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:26 AM
13

Kinda sounds like she got jealous that you moved on to another chick.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 05:09 AM
3

It's funny how feminists seem to rely on whatever information that will help them make their point. Anecdotal evidence is only real evidence when it proves their point, while statistics are only relevant when they prove their point. I've never, not a single time, seen a feminist give a single piece of unbiased anecdotal proof of a woman making less than her male counterparts, while doing the same work, with the same education, and working for the same amount of time.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 02:01 AM
4

I agree. I think it's important to keep in mind that the MRM is in its infancy. Feminism has been around for decades, and is rooted strongly in biological tendencies (men and women both have a biological urge to protect women). It's only been in the last 100 years or so that we've really become a society that hasn't been structured around the disposability of men. Not only has feminism been around longer, but we're only now seeing a time in history when we're allowed to approach gender roles in …
/r/MensRights31/03/13 01:53 AM
3

Elam may be more Malcolm X than MLK, but he has never supported violence against women, nor the stripping of their rights. Your comparison is invalid.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 01:24 AM
2

Because you can be an activist for men's rights, and still be an egalitarian. Since the MRM doesn't have any "theories" to accept, or an ideology to adhere to, the two aren't mutually exclusive. Feminism is more akin to a religion than a movement.
/r/MensRights31/03/13 01:21 AM
5

Sounds good to me.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 08:07 PM
4

Gee, how incredibly arrogant.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:46 PM
2

There are other groups that promote women's rights, without getting tied up in the patriarchy garbage.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:30 PM
3

She told police she reported the incident as a rape because her boyfriend forced her, the report states. My favorite part of the article. Even when she's caught, she can't just admit what she did. She has to double down and blame her boyfriend for her actions.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:29 PM
1

Seems to me like she should be getting hit with prostitution charges, as well.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:28 PM
2

I'd really like it if somebody who's inside the industry and has dealings with them could chime in and give the 411 on the group, one way or the other. I'd prefer to know what they're about, before giving in to the knee-jerk reaction of condemning them simply for being a women's group.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:06 PM
8

Feminism is tightly wound around the idea of Patriarchy™. Since this supposed "theory" is a huge, stinking pile of crap, yes I really see feminism as inherently less logical than men's rights activism.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:05 PM
2

The biggest middle finger is how they attempt to twist every single grievance the MRM has into an instance of patriarchy.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 07:03 PM
6

Considering "The Patriarchy™" is the quintessential feminist boogeyman, and not an actual thing, I think you'll find that most of us find this grand delusion amusing at best, and massively destructive at worst.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 06:52 PM
4

With every proselytizing ideology, the voice of the moderates gets drowned out by the voice of the extremists I'd say, in the case of feminism, the extremists are in the majority. I haven't met a single self-assured, self-labeled feminist that didn't buy into Patriarchy Theory™. Since that's pretty much the place where all feminist evil springs from, I think it's safe to say that those who buy into it are part of the "extremist" faction. Feminists who are truly about equality are nearly non-exis…
/r/MensRights30/03/13 06:38 PM
8

implying all feminists are irrational It's not that feminists themselves are irrational people, it's that buying into feminist theories requires a certain amount of mental gymnastics and completely glossing over major inconsistencies in logic.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 06:34 PM
3

Does anybody know what they mean when they say that PyLadies is a "mentorship" group? Do they mentor teenagers and college students who want to get into the tech field? Or is "mentor" just code for, "We'll teach you how to navigate around the evil menz"? Depending on what it is they actually do will answer how exactly I feel about this whole thing.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 06:05 PM
7

Yeah, it's not about whether doing it is good or bad for health or whatever. It's the fact that babies can't consent, and men should be allowed their own bodily autonomy, just as women are. I also find the fact that circumcision was originally a practice in religious control over male masturbation a great way to put things into perspective.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 05:39 AM
12

This. I find "man-cave" a term of pure, unadulterated freedom. A place where I can express myself without infringing on the decor of the rest of the house. Or at least, I will once I get my own house. I will dub it my Nerd Cave.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 05:32 AM
2

I didn't say you said anything, I was asking a question because I didn't know the answer to it.
/r/MensRights30/03/13 03:52 AM
2

I followed one of the links on the page to an almost identical article. But the second article had this little gem in it: In an interview outside court, Triplett’s father Richard Triplett disputed prosecutor’s claims, saying that the physical attack on his daughter was invited, but the sexual assault was not. He said she gave a description of someone who doesn’t exist because she was scared of the man who responded to the ad. “Morgan asked for some trouble, but she did not ask to be sexually ass…
/r/MensRights30/03/13 01:18 AM
1

Does pregnancy fall under the "handicapped" label, granting access to handicapped parking?
/r/MensRights30/03/13 01:05 AM
2

The world is dangerous for everyone. If you're doing this for women only, you're feeding into a sexist stereotype that says that women are weak of mind and body, and must be pandered to by big, strong men.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 05:47 PM
4

I'm sure if she absolutely has to, the mother will make the "game" herself. It'll be shoddily constructed, and very little effort will go into it, but she'll do it so that she doesn't have to refund people their money.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 05:09 PM
7

I foresee a sharp rise in amateur porn. "I'm video cataloging this sexual encounter as evidence that the woman I'm about to have sex with has given enthusiastic consent. Enjoy the show!"
/r/MensRights29/03/13 05:01 PM
3

Welp, time for me to start my, "Sex Contract Notary Service."
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:58 PM
3

TIL
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:50 PM
9

Am I the only one who has yet to see a single shred of proof about supposed death and rape threats? At least Anita Sarkeesian had that screenshot of tweets (despite not actually being death or rape threats).
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:40 PM
5

I... I think I love you >.> Edit: Wow, some people take things incredibly seriously, it appears.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:35 PM
16

I prefer not to get into a contest over who's more oppressed, since I think both sexes have their own shit to deal with, but other than that, i completely agree.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:33 PM
3

It's his penis.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 04:03 PM
6

If boys or men feel pressured to look a certain way, well then that's patriarchy again, or the problem doesn't actually exist, it's just in our imagination. The most common excuse I've heard is, "But it's different for men. You aren't objectified by this sort of thing. No matter how you look or dress, people still take you seriously."
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:55 PM
6

Every time I've ever tried to point out that women run the fashion industry, somebody comes along and tries to say that it's actually gay men that run the fashion industry. To which I can't actually respond, because I don't know enough about the industry to know just how true that is. So, anybody who knows more than me about it, I'd love a quick rundown of how things really work.
/r/MensRights29/03/13 03:54 PM
15

Code 8-D: Possession of Penis
/r/MensRights29/03/13 01:57 AM
2

It's the difference between: "She is such a bitch!" And... "Stop being a little bitch!"
/r/MensRights28/03/13 11:50 PM
1

"My parents were shitty, but in my friends I found a glimmer of hope for a life better than the one I had." That's still being influenced by your parents.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 09:46 PM
2

People who have shitty parents and grow up to be decent people do so in spite of their upbringing, which still means that their parents influenced their outlook on life. There are a lot of factors that go into a person's psychological makeup, and one of the biggest is their childhood - which includes parenting. An adult makes their own choices, but their choices are a reflection of who they are as a person, which is a psychological development shaped by their life experiences.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 09:09 PM
1

I usually take things with a grain of salt when it's obvious that a study is biased from the word "go," but that doesn't mean that there can't be a nugget of useful information buried in there somewhere. Broken clocks being right twice a day, and all that :P
/r/MensRights28/03/13 08:54 PM
2

Media isn't created in a vacuum, it's created by people. Media that doesn't resonate with society dies and gets tossed on the garbage pile. The sort of media you're talking about keeps getting created because people like it, not the other way around. The media we absorb is influenced by our culture and our social moors. Culture begins at home, with the family.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 07:34 PM
2

GWW, while well-spoken and intelligent, has a tendency to belabor her points. She gives great information, and her opinions are almost always firmly rooted in reasoning and logic, but if you're going to watch her videos, you just sort of have to let her take you along for the ride.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 07:27 PM
9

Given that your experience is the complete opposite of my own, I'm going to have to take everything you've just said with a grain of salt.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 07:16 PM
1

I don't mind when a woman is on top. >.>
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:37 PM
5

But... but... NAFALT, you guys!!
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:35 PM
8

A bitch is more like a woman who's being selfish and aggressive. Applied to a man, it's more about being whiny and annoying.
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:31 PM
8

Women get unrealistic fantasy expectations of relationships from books (like twilight) and romantic comedies (80-90% of them) Women learn their approach to relationships from their parents. People that have shitty parents (or no parents at all) are easily swayed by media, as they have no point of reference for a healthy relationship. The same goes for men and porn. Men who have no sex life to speak of don't have a point of reference for reality and realistic expectations when they watch a lot of…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:26 PM
18

Richards: "The tech industry is sexist!" Industry: "Uh... no we're not?" Richards: "See?! SEXIST, I TELL YOU!!"
/r/MensRights28/03/13 06:00 AM
1

Isn't being persuasive just being emotionally or socially coercive? If there is no force or threat, then it is not coercion. Making somebody feel guilty is a form of manipulation, but is not coercion. Coercion is about duress: being forced to make a specific choice, or risk harm to yourself. Couldn't one set of behaviours very easily make one person feel coerced, while making another person feel simply persuaded? This is why coercion isn't something you can "feel." It's either something that hap…
/r/MensRights28/03/13 01:21 AM
2

I thought that the premise behind the research was promising, showing that boys and girls thrive in different environments. Then they decided to take their findings and insist that it means they need to change things so that girls do better. I wonder when we're going to get to a point in our society where we consider what's best for both sexes, rather than just one or the other.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 11:23 PM
5

Coercion involves force or threats. You're thinking of persuasion, not coercion.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 10:59 PM
4

If you say yes and you're not being threatened or coerced, then you have not been raped. Period.
/r/MensRights27/03/13 10:57 PM
2

Suspect study is suspect. I tried following the link to the study, but the abstract and introduction make it clear that this is feminist research. "... focusing on men's oppressive beliefs. Our perspective was derived from feminist psychology, which posits that corporeal experiences are, in part, shaped by patriarchal structures in society..." While this wouldn't normally be enough for me to just write off the study, the actual research is stuck behind a paywall, which means I can't even read wh…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 05:12 PM
12

"Like, I know this sounds terrible, but as a women's studies major, the fact that (character who is a man in drag which main character has 20 year relationship with thinking he's a woman) is manipulative didn't really shock me when it's revealed that he's a man. I mean, guys are kind of supposed to be jerks, but it really would've blown my mind if it had been a woman doing all the horrible things he did." "That's funny, because as a woman's studies major, you've just proven that anybody can be a…
/r/MensRights27/03/13 04:55 AM
4

I was under the impression that the guy on the left was the one that was fired.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 09:03 PM
2

Is there any proof that the guy circled in that picture is actually the Mr. Hank from that forum discussion? I find it odd that somebody completely unrelated to the two men obviously center in the photo would be fired, just for sitting near them.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 08:00 PM
6

This post belongs in /r/srssucks, /r/tumblrinaction, or /r/funny. Don't bring this garbage in here.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 07:56 PM
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The point is that even if women were willing to fill those same roles (which is debatable at best), that doesn't mean they'd be capable of doing so. Society as we know it would have to be completely restructured to avoid breaking the backs of the physically weaker sex.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 04:38 PM
10

For an inconsistent movement, it's quite easy to predict what they're going to do/say.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 04:35 PM
-23

You can pretend that men and women are the same all you want, but wishful thinking won't make it true. I think women are fantastic, and I hope one day to find a woman who is the perfect match for me, but I'm not going to sit here and act like women aren't different creatures. I'm sure female firefighters would be a great boon. I bet that equality will be a real comfort while you're burning alive. And all those female loggers and coal miners, I'm sure, will be able to put out the same daily quota…
/r/MensRights26/03/13 04:12 PM
5

Didn't somebody write a similar comment about that 60 Minutes expose on the Brian Banks case?
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:49 PM
1

But we're not dealing with the general public, we're dealing with discussion on our own board. If people want to come in here and quote mine, they're going to do it regardless of any disclaimers we make for ourselves. Posting on other boards? Preface away. As sad as it is, but that's the world we live in.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:37 PM
1

Wow, you are a pig.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:20 PM
2

I like that it does not dismiss rape, but in fact states unequivocally that rape is not to be tolerated. This is something that is often missing in rape discussions by MRAs. While we all know forcible rape is bad, when we do not say it while making points it leaves a big gap for feminists to dismiss the statements as misogynistic. Feminists will always dismiss anything we say as misogynistic. "Forcible rape is bad" is nearly a tautology, and banging on that drum over and over again just isn't ne…
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:16 PM
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I'm talking about the basics of our society completely crumbling. Utilities, garbage, street maintenance, goods transportation, emergency services, etc etc. If women stopped working tonight, we'd have some major gaps to fill, and the economy would tank for a while, but we'd eventually pull things out of the shitter. If men stopped working tonight, society would be fucked.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:00 PM
2

There you go :)
/r/MensRights26/03/13 04:00 AM
5

Don't confuse useless with worthless. Underwater basket weaving may not have any inherent worth, but it has some uses. On the other hand, feminism has worth attached to it by our society, but its practical uses are pretty much nil.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:45 AM
3

The most useless major on the planet.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 03:02 AM
-14

His approach may have been lacking, but he's not wrong. If men everywhere decided to pack it in and stop working, society would crumble overnight.
/r/MensRights26/03/13 12:40 AM
0

It's nice when fellow gamers can push everything aside and get down to what really matters: the games! :)
/r/MensRights26/03/13 12:16 AM
0

Um... play games, like everybody else?
/r/MensRights25/03/13 11:33 PM
1

You conflate feminism with women. Having a problem with feminism and having a problem with women are two completely different things.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 10:49 PM
0

you arguing with me is an example of sexism within the gaming industry. I really wish I knew the name of this fallacy, but it escapes me at the moment. Basically, you've set up a situation wherein you cannot be proven wrong. If I agree with you, then the industry is sexist. If I disagree with you, then the industry is sexist. Anyway, thanks for the conversation, but I think we're done now.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 09:42 PM
-1

Good job, one game. It was an example, you troglodyte. I said avatar, not character. A distinction without a difference. Lara Croft is a great character, but you wouldn't lose quality of gameplay if she wore cargo pants and gadget-encrusted vest instead of mini-shorts and tank top. Gee, it's like game developers almost agree with you! Heck, even townswomen in Assassin's Creed 3 boast impressive cleavage. Oh no, a game with cleavage, what an affront to female sexuality! As a male who owns Assassi…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 07:18 PM
-1

Even if you were right, the fact that you reduce every decent female character to "a pair of tits in armor" just shows that you're the one being misogynistic. Every female character I've ever played has been every bit as strong, intelligent and do-it-yourself as the male characters I've played. And character models of both sexes are on the extreme end of attractiveness (even skirting impossibility, at times). But let me guess, it's different for women, right? Because men can't be objectified? Be…
/r/MensRights25/03/13 05:56 PM
5

Likely, the reply to such questioning would be, "Oh come on, I was just kidding, lighten up!" Which I wouldn't necessarily disagree with. Shrugs I'd prefer to tackle the issue with more humor. One good turn deserves another, and all that.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 05:21 PM
-1

No, it's more like decorators breaking into your house uninvited, telling you that your shitty wallpaper is misogynistic, then squabbling in your living room with one another about what would be the best replacement and giving you the stink-eye every time you try to tell them that you already like your wallpaper the way it is.
/r/MensRights25/03/13 05:15 PM
-4

Has nothing to do with the other side of the population wanting to play games. Plenty of girls manage to do that every day. Crying sexism where there is none doesn't make the industry more "girl-friendly."
/r/MensRights25/03/13 03:56 PM
10

I don't believe in an eye for an eye. And frankly, if the guy doesn't have a problem with her words, than neither should we. Edit: Not sure why I'm getting downvoted. Evidently, allowing somebody to decide for themselves if they should be offended is a bad thing, now?
/r/MensRights24/03/13 11:12 PM
34

I have a hard time taking this seriously as a topic. Are we really going to piss and moan about something stupid a woman said, just because we believe a man couldn't get away with it? I'd prefer to save the outrage for a case of actual hypocrisy, not an imagined one.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 08:58 PM
5

And you have the right to think that ;)
/r/MensRights24/03/13 06:45 PM
4

Well, you have your right to your opinion, and I have my right to tell you to stuff it :P
/r/MensRights24/03/13 06:26 PM
1

Her point was stupid, and she shouldn't have said anything at all. But she did, and so the onus falls on those who have official rank over the developers in question. "What do we do with this complaint?" they should ask themselves. "Did he really do anything wrong? Is this really deserving of some sort of punitive measure?" What Adria Richards did was childish and incredibly stupid. However, the company that cut its own developer has just as much blame in this whole thing as the faux-victim Rich…
/r/MensRights24/03/13 06:25 PM
1

The training camp is a means to a specific end: the game. College is a much more generalized endeavor. The training camp is a step toward future education. College is a step toward a job. Neither of which is funded specifically for a single game. The mother has the money, the kid doesn't. Whatever money this kickstarter makes also goes to the mother. A 9-year-old can't make a kickstarter page, it all goes under the mother's name. And if you've actually read the kickstarter, there's no way in blo…
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:47 PM
6

It's funny how being in control of your faculties gives you the awareness and presence of mind to avoid being taken advantage of.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:33 PM
1

The training camp is a means to an end i.e. to develop an RPG in RPGmaker to demonstrate to her brothers that she can do it. You mean just like how a college course in game design is a means to an end, to demonstrate to developers that they can do it? The only thing that was being asked to be funded was the thing she (the kid) doesn't have the money for. She has the money for it already, this is just bullshit. This was originally a very small kickstarter intended to cover a specific cost associa…
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:25 PM
9

Different people have different problems with this debacle. It's not up to you or me to determine which parts of it they get to discuss.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:22 PM
3

Many self-proclaimed MRAs even accept that if Adria felt the remarks were offensive, she had the right to say something. You're confusing, "If she found them offensive," with, "They were offensive and she should have reported them." I support any person's right to report overtly sexualized behavior that makes them feel uncomfortable in a professional environment. She still has the right to report what she feels offended by. Nobody should feel that they don't have the right to report offensive be…
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:10 PM
2

From the project itself: My Project: I'm raising $829 to cover the cost of attending this RPG STEM Camp for kids 9-12 years old for a week ... part of my Kickstarter campaign is aimed at raising awareness and getting girls thinking about careers in technology at an early age. The entire project is tuition and championing a cause, two things that kickstarter has expressly forbade in their ToS. A game coming out of this is incidental. Game design students in college also make games (usually as par…
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:01 PM
1

they think I made up the term "entrepreneur" I saw this and read, "I'm a horrible parent and couldn't even teach my children basic english." I learned what entrepreneur meant by the time I was in 4th grade. If you treat your children like spoiled rotten little shits, that's what they'll grow up to be. This entire debacle is her own damned fault.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 04:55 PM
5

they're paying to provide training Thank you for admitting that, now we can all move on.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 04:40 PM
-6

While I generally agree with you, I can't really get upset that it's listed here. Feminism banging its drum in the gaming industry is sort of one of my big peeves right now, and this fits perfectly into that discussion.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 04:35 PM
25

The money was raised to send her to camp. The money isn't being used as resources to build the game, it's being used as resources to train her in the use of the software. Which is just "sending somebody to college," but on a smaller scale. The fact that there's supposedly a game coming out of it is incidental. Students who take game-designing courses in college also have to create their own games.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 04:32 PM
2

Wish I had an extra 20 grand lying around for a college tuition...
/r/MensRights24/03/13 04:30 PM
1

All I can speak of is my own experience, without the presence of controlled research. If you have any, I'd love to read it. I got tired of prefacing all my opinions with "I believe" and "I think" and "In my experience," then having to defend my opinion against people who get offended that I could think that way.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 06:01 AM
2

It's important to understand that talking about trends isn't the same as talking about individuals. For example, "men are stronger than women" doesn't mean that every individual man is stronger than every individual woman. It's just a generalization of trends, which is important for discussing systemic issues.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:44 AM
11

Well, this is from the atheism+ forum, what did you expect? We don't need to turn into SRS, please don't link stupid posts that people make from other subreddits.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:41 AM
4

The same place everybody else is, I guess. Personal experience. If you have any studies, I'd gladly read them. But every woman I've ever talked to about this topic insists that she doesn't dress for men. I've seen similar questions asked in /r/askwomen, answered similarly.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 05:30 AM
18

If you ask women if they dress to get attention from men, the wide majority will give a loud, resounding NO. So, either most women don't dress for men, or most women are liars. Pick your poison.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 03:25 AM
2

I think you're confused as to what exactly sexist actually means.
/r/MensRights24/03/13 03:11 AM
4

Well..it is. No, it's really not. If women were forced to show their tits to get into the club, then it would be sexist. Instead, they're given the choice to pay full price, or get in for free by showing some skin. I'm sure men wouldn't have a problem with, "Show your dick, get in for free" weekend promotions. Although I'm sure feminists would find a way to call that sexist as well.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 08:51 PM
4

He's not being abused anymore, though. That means at this point, he's choosing to live his life as he wishes, instead of wasting time on pursuing the guilt of a person who no longer holds sway on his life. It would be a matter of vengeance, at this point. That's what he means by being a better person. And I agree with him. I wouldn't be able to let it go.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:57 PM
9

I had something similar but more succinct to say, and refused to post it for the exact same reason. Once again, a feminist proves she doesn't understand the difference between a PUA and a MRA. I know it's confusing, what with the two of them being completely different and all. Not that I disagree with what they're doing, and if I had some spare cash I'd probably donate.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:36 PM
2

United States Edit: IANAL, it's just supposition based on my knowledge of how the justice system works.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:18 PM
1

Counseling tends to get to the root of the psychological issues that create the behavior to begin with. Why would a person lie about getting raped? I don't know, let's dig into your psyche to find out... Mental health issues in the US are woefully disregarded and ignored.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:14 PM
1

I couldn't agree more. Prisons create more criminals than they reform, and the money used to keep them up and running would be better used to build reform programs where criminals can work out the issues that made them turn to crime in the first place. Incarceration, in my opinion, should be used for those who are dangerous to other people, for the safety of society, not as a punitive measure.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:12 PM
2

Everybody should be given a chance for reform. You don't create equality by making sure everyone is burned at the stake.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:05 PM
1

If you read further, you'll see that my statement is from a legal point of view.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 04:50 PM
0

But men did the raping! So obviously it doesn't count! /s
/r/MensRights23/03/13 04:30 PM
10

They're oppressed by The Patriarchy™.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 05:10 AM
3

I've talked to women who were turned on by the idea of having a boyfriend that would fuck them awake in the middle of the night. Not wake them up and ask if they want to have sex, but to literally climb on top of them and fuck them until they woke up. I don't know how common that sort of thing is, but it just goes to show that everybody has their own kinks. You only do a disservice to people by creating laws that aren't flexible enough to allow for people to pursue their own brand of happiness.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 01:03 AM
3

I think under the eyes of the law, that would be rape. Morally, I think people can do whatever the hell they want in their bedroom. But I'd suggest you trust somebody to the moon and back before you enter into any sort of agreement like that with them, otherwise you're pretty much asking to get your ass sent up the river.
/r/MensRights23/03/13 12:20 AM
1

It's a different culture. It's generally not acceptable in the tech area for people to do that. Also, I'm pretty sure PyCon has rules against it. And in any case, she went for a name-and-shame approach instead of just talking to the guys behind her (if we assume what they said was actually offensive, which I don't, but that's another topic altogether), or taking it to the convention staff in the case that a face-to-face chat didn't fix the issue. It's like having a problem with a coworker, but i…
/r/MensRights23/03/13 12:17 AM
-8

I'm unsure why this is a Men's Rights issue. I would have preferred the OP write up some text to generate a discussion. As it stands, this thread feels like an anti-woman bitch-fest.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 11:41 PM
2

That's not exactly the same as somebody having sex with your unconscious body just because an hour earlier, when you were sober, you were up for having relations.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 11:35 PM
9

The worst part of this whole thing? If it had been you alone and you'd told her what your female friend had said, it would have turned into a huge scene where you were the bad guy. By virtue of having a vagina, your friend was able to de-escalate the situation. Which was good on her, but shitty in a meta sort of way. Blech.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 11:18 PM
4

Yes, because the person doesn't have the awareness and presence of mind to verbalize their thoughts if they happen to change their mind.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 11:13 PM
1

Sorry, can't say I've seen it!
/r/MensRights22/03/13 10:29 PM
1

Yeaaaahh... I don't know who you're talking to, but I've only ever heard douchebags that might be rapists themselves talking like that.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:23 PM
4

I've always maintained that those who can't operate in the real world should stay at home under a blanket.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:19 PM
7

lol well it's supportive in its own way. It's supportive in that, "You knew better, but you'll get over it, bro," sort of way.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:17 PM
8

While I normally don't approve of this sort of comment, I have to ashamedly admit that it made me giggle.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:16 PM
1

I read it to say that not blaming the victim and siding with the rapist. That includes not blaming for what was worn, or the slut shame, or anything else that is typically seen these days to defend rapists. None of that is ever said to "defend rapists." It's said as a form of risk reduction. The fact that I actually have to say this is ridiculous.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 07:00 PM
0

The problem, in my eyes, isn't that people feel the need for compassion. The problem is that the media feeds the stories of very personal and very traumatic crimes to the public, who then goes on the warpath and forms a virtual lynch mob for the perceived perpetrator. I know that if I were in a traumatic situation like with Steubenville, I wouldn't want my shit plastered all over the internet and national television. As much as I hate what people do to each other (rapes, false accusation, and ev…
/r/MensRights22/03/13 06:57 PM
8

All they have to say is that keeping her on the payroll would breed ill will with their customers, reducing their overall gross income. She'd have to have a damned magician for a lawyer to win that lawsuit.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:50 AM
31

Figures, she isn't pissed at Adria for being a feminist cunt who cared more about her personal feelings than the job and life of another person, she's pissed at Adria for doing so publicly and unintentionally bringing the spotlight on the feminist movement creeping its way through the tech community. At least Adria is obviously manipulative and back-stabbey. This bitch would rather pull the strings from the shadows and watch feminism insidiously corrupt everything from the inside-out.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 03:06 AM
5

Am i the only one who read: Supporting and believing survivors and never blaming them for their assault. And thought, "Ugh, not more of this garbage"? The sign does a good job of giving the appearance of gender symmetry, but the idea of always believing somebody who claims to have been assaulted and never questioning them sounds like the same tune we've heard being whistled for a long, long time.
/r/MensRights22/03/13 02:47 AM
5

Yeah, I noticed that too. She's still holding tight to most of her conceptions, and has no problem blaming men for the biggest problems she perceives. She even goes as far as to blame men for the change in feminism. As a woman, I can say all this without being immediately labeled a misogynist, but not without being verbally attacked and potentially libeled. Sadly, most of these attacks are either perpetrated or eagerly supported by powerful middle-class men. This woman doesn't give a shit about …
/r/MensRights21/03/13 06:17 PM
10

I have no sympathy for professional victims, especially when they bring the shitstorm upon themselves.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:51 PM
1

She's a marketing specialist.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:48 PM
28

I rather think "screeching harpy cunt" would have been more appropriate.
/r/MensRights21/03/13 05:41 PM
2

Your post has fallen victim to Poe's Law :P
/r/MensRights20/03/13 06:51 PM
2

What if the person you helped is a scumbag? What if they hurt other people on a daily basis? The assertion that helping a person is questionable because of what they might do or who they might be is the sort of bullshit we try to squash when feminists clamor on about Schrodinger's Rapist. What if they wouldn't ever step in to help someone, but the day they are left alone and no one helps them changes their entire perspective and makes them a more caring and giving person? You're confusing "helpi…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 06:45 PM
2

While this is generally true, it doesn't sound like the idea was even broached.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:49 PM
4

While I agree that there's never any obligation to help another person, this world would be a better place if more people would step in and help one another. Unfortunately, human nature creates a lot of walls of mistrust and fear between strangers.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:40 PM
3

Even if the person did commit a real crime, why is it anybody's job to punish this person above and beyond what the justice system has already done to them? For all the public knows, the person could be completely reformed and absolutely repentant of their past actions. Since when was it ok to hunt people down on the premise of vigilante retribution? (Not even vigilante justice, because at this point it's no longer justice, it's just petty retribution.) I don't begrudge anybody the right to be w…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:26 PM
0

Statutory rape, as a law, is based on the premise that an authority figure has used his/her position of power to coerce or manipulate a minor into sexual acts, imprinting some sort of emotional or psychological damage in the process. It's a safeguard against children being taken advantage of before they're mature enough to understand the implications of sex. However, these laws don't take into account the differing ages of maturity between individual children. Or, for that matter, the fact that …
/r/MensRights20/03/13 04:10 PM
-1

There are a lot of things wrong with a scene like this, showing that it's acceptable to go lynch somebody for something that they've already been punished for by the justice system. And this is assuming that we're even talking about actual statutory rape, rather than consensual sex that just happens to involve a minor.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 08:04 AM
1

I think you missed the point of my post.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:54 AM
3

If anything, Super Princess Peach should be her ideal feminist video game. What with Peach saving the day through the power of her feelings, and all that.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 03:07 AM
3

Unfortunately, you'd have a subset of feminists complaining that such a character is just a man with breasts, or doesn't count because there's no personality.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 02:55 AM
88

There's been an increasing pressure lately to label "any sex I didn't actually want/like" as rape. But only if you're a woman. And this can be decided after the fact, even if you verbally consented to the sex beforehand. Feminist circles have decided on, and perpetuated, this idea that whether or not a woman has been raped is entirely dependent on how she feels. Whether consent was given or not is irrelevant; whether she willingly participated is irrelevant. If she feels like she was raped, then…
/r/MensRights20/03/13 02:51 AM
3

The problem is that when there is a solid female lead character, they undermine her by saying how her being sexy is bad because it makes her an object and a "sex fantasy" for the male gamer. There is literally no way to mollify them, because they will always come up with a reason why a female character is offensive to women.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 02:31 AM
5

People have gotten fired for twitter comments before. I can't remember his name, but that dude that questioned Felicia Day's contribution to geek culture comes to mind.
/r/MensRights20/03/13 01:20 AM
3

I didn't realize what the R was for, so I ignored it lol. I suppose it makes sense, though, in a pseudo-phonetic sort of way :P Tries to avoid sounding like a pretentious English snob
/r/MensRights19/03/13 06:05 PM
3

Plus, "Dark Lord" just sounds super badass, like you're the BBEG to an epic fantasy game :P
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:56 PM
0

I think we could do a lot better as a society if our justice system focused more on reform than on punitive actions. People tend to do horrible shit like this, because something is wrong with them; something is off in their head, where the gravity of their actions don't register in their mind right away (if ever).
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:33 PM
8

lol sorry, I just made an assumption, based on your screen name. I edited the post to better reflect this bit of new information. :P
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:25 PM
8

But you have a penis, so that explains everything. But you're a gender traitor, so that explains everything. Edit: I suppose Poe's Law is in effect, and I should have added /s to avoid downvotes. Sigh
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:13 PM
14

Post-modern debate at its finest.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:12 PM
9

OP said they've been friends for 7 years, and the change to feminism sounds to be recent. The woman's recent insanity doesn't wash away years of friendship. It just makes the situation a little more sad.
/r/MensRights19/03/13 05:11 PM
4

Since feminism has effectively done what it set out to do, it's become obsolete. But the companies and organizations that led the charge aren't going to just pack up their stuff and go home. The only way they can keep the money rolling in is by co-opting other causes and claiming they fall under the umbrella of feminism.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 09:37 PM
2

Firstly, pedophilia is an attraction to pre-pubescent children, not teenagers. Secondly, it should be noted that 18 isn't the age of consent everywhere in the world (or even everywhere in the US). In addition, consider this: what's the real difference between somebody who's 18, and somebody who is 17? Or 17 1/2? Or 17 and 364 days? The difference is only a technicality, and nothing else. A teenager doesn't suddenly receive wisdom of the ages the moment they turn 18. Whether the older of the two …
/r/MensRights18/03/13 09:28 PM
1

This story found its way over to /r/srssucks a couple weeks ago. It's majorly fucked up, though the third part of the story seems to be missing from this screenshot. That said, this seems like a better candidate for /r/mensrants.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 08:59 PM
2

I never trust a man with a beard.
/r/MensRights18/03/13 01:54 AM
13

Women gravitate towards low paying jobs because they are low paying because they are done by women. One of the highest voted comments does a fantastic job of begging the question. This is the sort of circular logic that we're dealing with, and why we can't seem to get factual statistics to stick.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 07:45 PM
5

"Consensual rape." What is this. I don't even.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:26 PM
-3

I would also like to point out that this is a great candidate for /r/mensrants. :)
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:25 PM
1

Yay!! :D I think that's the first time I've ever won an argument on the internet :P
/r/MensRights17/03/13 04:15 AM
0

But I have a hard time seeing how this goes against male rights. It doesn't. This poster has nothing to do with men's rights, except in the most tangential way. Some of us may have our own opinions on abortion, or the poster's approach to its message, but that doesn't mean it's a men's rights issue. But that doesn't mean that we should try to latch onto it either.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 02:02 AM
3

I'd love to see you try to be a super badass ninja in a huge, fluffy dress :P
/r/MensRights17/03/13 01:48 AM
5

Women who call themselves "strong independent women" tend to make me inwardly cringe. But that's just a personal issue lol.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 01:40 AM
3

It's a feminist pro-abortion campaign poster. It's trying to convince pro-lifers that banning abortion is "wrong" on the basis that all of them are religious, traditionalist whackjobs who might "see the truth" if they flip the sexes and ask a stream of loaded and misleading questions.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 01:38 AM
3

In addition, some people have no problem with their weight, but still have to steel themselves against rude comments from those who believe that there's something wrong with them.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 01:28 AM
2

Despite what you may think, telling a person over the internet, "you should want to do it! Don't be fat for the rest of your days!!" isn't helping. It's preaching. There's a difference. Helping involves doing more than saying the same, tired crap that everybody else says when the topic comes up.
/r/MensRights17/03/13 01:24 AM
6

My gym was full of people who didn't ask stupid questions in a failed attempt to sound witty.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 11:59 PM
2

You, among all those who have come before to share the good word, have a silver tongue that has granted me understanding that has never graced my ears until this moment. Your words have uplifted and inspired me. Thank you for helping me achieve ultimate enlightenment, good sir, and have a wondrous day.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 11:58 PM
2

Gee, it's as if I've never heard this before. Thanks for your unique and original input!
/r/MensRights16/03/13 10:44 PM
2

Nobody held a gun to his head and forced him to take pictures. Assuming that he had to laugh to keep from crying is silly, in this context.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 10:43 PM
3

California
/r/MensRights16/03/13 10:41 PM
4

Here in the US, smokers are treated like people, despite personal opinions on smoking as a habit.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 09:02 PM
1

As a fat guy, myself, I've all but given up on ever being moderately fit again. Just thinking about trying to lose the weight makes me think of all the physical pain and discomfort I'd have to go through to make a whit of difference, and all the people eyeballing me like I'm literally a fat joke. Everybody says that you need to "make the change for yourself," and I call bullshit. Every time I try to make the change for myself, I end up failing. I need somebody to push me and be there with me the…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 08:57 PM
0

It's cool to hate smokers and show how dirty they are but if you do the same with fatties, oh lawdy are you going to get bitched at! It's not OK to hate either, and anybody claiming otherwise is a narrow-minded asshole. You can disagree with a choice and a lifestyle without condemning them for it.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 08:51 PM
3

I'm also a fat guy, and I think the male version of the signs are funny.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 08:49 PM
1

My gym's full of inconsiderate jerks (male & female) who don't re-rack their plates when done or wipe their nasty sweat off benches, because hey, they just don't care. The gym I used to frequent was the exact opposite.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 07:40 PM
2

I'm not denying he was an asshole, but you don't learn to be an asshole in a vacuum.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 07:39 PM
5

Everybody is welcome to their own opinions, as long as you understand that it goes both ways.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 06:13 PM
1

People do things against their natural instincts all the time. It doesn't necessarily make them right, but a person's natural instincts and their final actions don't always coincide.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 06:08 PM
7

You've pegged the premise, but ignored the context.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 05:58 PM
1

Depends on the person. Depends on if the guy only "helped" her because she's a woman, or because he's nosy and feels the need to interject himself into other peoples' business. All of which is irrelevant to this point.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 05:57 PM
-4

appeared to be finished with her equipment. I needed two of the barbell clips she was using for later, so I took them. Not calling you a liar, but you should consider being more clear when writing up a story, in the future.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 05:54 PM
5

Sounds like he had horrible parents.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 05:52 PM
46

It's not really the same, tbqh. The male version shows a man who's having fun and encouraging others to laugh at him by being silly. The female version is just a cropped body of an overweight woman. I tried googling the marketing signs to see if there was a "buildup" like the male version, but I can't find anything. If the signs, as shown, are really all that is available, it really is a false equivalency.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 05:44 PM
6

I feel like I shouldn't have to explain this nearly as often as I evidently have to. Humor is how we make sense of the insane. It's how we chase away what terrifies us. It takes the absurd and twists it into something that we can laugh at. I've never looked into it to be sure, but I would theorize that laughter is actually a defensive mechanism against insanity - a way to reduce the barometric pressure of our own personal demons.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 01:33 AM
3

You mean like the time I was 15 years old, in juvi, and nearly got ass raped while held down by four other guys my age? Yeah, that totally never happened, therefore I couldn't possibly understand. InB4 "almost raped, so it doesn't count." Self-righteous asshole.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 01:24 AM
1

Implying that bigotry only extends to homosexuality.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 01:18 AM
1

saving a man is not as compelling a motivation. I think it should be noted that any storyline that involves saving a guy, typically plays the "dude in distress" one of two ways. He's a complete and total pussy, and his victimization is played for laughs. He has an extremely important job that just can't be completed without his presence (doctor, scientist, president, royalty, etc), reducing him from a human being to a utility McGuffin. This doesn't really outrage me in any way, because I'm not a…
/r/MensRights16/03/13 01:04 AM
5

I've found the occasional rape joke to be funny. I don't care what anybody says, I won't apologize for having a sense of humor.
/r/MensRights16/03/13 12:39 AM
9

Because it's a well-known fact that boys like it, so it's not harmful to them. Which is an argument I find hilariously hypocritical, considering feminism has worked damn hard to make sure that it's socially acceptable for women to be sluts.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 09:48 PM
3

If a trope simply exists, why is it necessarily a good idea to continue using it? Perhaps your misunderstanding is my fault. A trope is neither good nor bad, in moral, relativistic terms. Tropes are, however, good literary mechanisms to aid in telling a story. If in the modern world, women should be expected to take responsibility for their actions and maintain agency, isn't the Damsel In Distress trope becoming outdated? If a trope becomes outdated, then it will stop being used, because the sto…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 08:44 PM
3

Tropes can reinforce destructive attitudes if they are never challenged. Yeah, and video games make people violent, and porn encourages people to rape. /s Why don't we have princes in distress? We do. All the time. Why can't there be a female hero who is expected to make the hard sacrifices for her man? You're conflating two completely different issues. You're taking the DiD trope, and expanding it to mean that women can't do something, or only men can do something. The trope is a trope because …
/r/MensRights15/03/13 07:15 PM
8

Tropes are neither good nor bad, they simply are. Tropes (or archetypes, or whatever you want to call them) are storytelling devices that give the audience a sense of familiarity, and give them context into the plot, without having to heap on additional exposition.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 05:05 PM
26

To be fair, she may have actually been aware of the ending of Double Dragon. By her own admission, Anita flags any game as guilty of the DiD trope as long as a woman is in need of rescuing by a man, at any time, regardless of anything else she might have done over the course of the storyline.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 08:01 AM
2

This would make a great addition to /r/mensrants. :)
/r/MensRights15/03/13 06:55 AM
2

No need to apologize, you were correct, I was just adding my own little addendum :)
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:33 AM
5

When I stated.. Whether the accused are guilty or not still has yet to be determined. I was speaking from a legal standpoint. Often, these discussions get morality and legality conflated with one another, so I can understand where a person might have assumed I was speaking of guilt from a moral standpoint, but I was definitely referring to it in the legal sense of the word.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:14 AM
0

And that makes it alright for the newspaper to spread their names?
/r/MensRights15/03/13 04:11 AM
3

The fact that the public at large doesn't make that sort of distinction is exactly why anonymity for the defendant needs to remain intact. You and I may be fairly logical about the whole thing, but we are not the majority, and it's what the majority does that has to be accounted for.
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:58 AM
4

Yeah well, that's why the MRM is pushing for anonymity for the accused. But that means that both the guilty and the innocent are protected by it. Not everybody is logical and reasonable about judging people who are on trial for a crime (or even just arrested for a crime).
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:51 AM
3

It's not personal opinion - they are on camera & on record as having done all the things they're accused of and there is no mystery as to the context of said actions. If they're guilty, and you're so absolutely convinced of that fact, then why can't you just wait for the justice system to do its job? What is the purpose of spreading their names to the public, if you already know they're going to get tossed in prison?
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:43 AM
4

This isn't me thinking someone is guilty or innocent - this is simple logic & reason telling me that these idiots are guilty. But if you give the power to the public to decide when somebody is guilty, then who gets to make the final decision? How many people are going to get Guilty stamped on their foreheads, who never actually did anything wrong, because "public opinion" said that they were guilty before being convicted in court? Even if these kids are guilty of what they're being accused (my p…
/r/MensRights15/03/13 01:32 AM
1

While this idea may be prevalent, I don't think it's quite as pervasive in society as it is online and in popular media. I also think it depends on how/when you say it. It's been quite a long time since I've been vilified for publicly stating that I like girls with a big ass.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 11:56 PM
-1

Curvy, curvy, curvy. Curvy is about shape, and is irrelevant to body fat.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 11:52 PM
5

Proxy violence don't real.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 11:39 PM
17

You're welcome to feel however you wish about them, but that doesn't change the fact that laws don't exist just for the innocent. We either apply them across the board, or not at all. It's not the public's job, nor its right, to determine the guilt of another person; and make no mistake, that's exactly what happens when you plaster a person's name in the newspaper, whether that person has actually committed a crime or not. I have no sympathy for those who do evil shit and get punished for their …
/r/MensRights14/03/13 11:36 PM
6

You don't get to decide when "reasonable doubt" is or isn't a given. Yes, it looks like these kids did it, and they will pay the price for their actions. But we don't get to decide who does or doesn't deserve their anonymity. That sort of thing is decided once it's been determined by the courts if the defendant is innocent or guilty. We have to remember that "anonymity for the accused" doesn't only apply to those we think are innocent. It applies across the board.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 11:25 PM
18

You're missing the point. Whether the accused are guilty or not still has yet to be determined. Until this changes, they should be awarded the same anonymity as the accuser.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 11:07 PM
3

Blech... couldn't even read it. She takes way too much space on my computer screen to complain about twitter trolls.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 08:03 AM
4

Alimony is money paid monthly to the ex-partner (I say ex-partner rather than ex-wife, because theoretically it's supposed to go either way) after a divorce, on the grounds that they cannot support themselves, due to all the time spent outside of the work force during marriage. Of course, this quickly goes from "a stipend to keep me afloat while I look for a job" into the bizzaro land of, "why do I need a job, when I have all this money coming in for free?" Alimony, rather than being based on th…
/r/MensRights14/03/13 02:00 AM
2

Her husband is a lucky, lucky man.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 01:56 AM
7

These are the same people who hold up the Bechdel Test as the pinnacle of equality in storytelling.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 01:54 AM
3

Disney was an anti-Semite.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 01:50 AM
1

Oh god... link? I kinda think I have to see this.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 01:24 AM
1

I wasn't supporting the higher rates for men, only correcting false information.
/r/MensRights14/03/13 01:20 AM
13

Men get into more total accidents than women, but they get into fewer accidents per mile driven than women.
/r/MensRights13/03/13 08:33 PM
2

My issue is that I can never trust the girl to be completely... reformed. I mean, she had eight different dicks in her mouth just last month, how am I supposed to take her at her word that she's over it just because we're dating? (example created for dramatic effect)
/r/MensRights13/03/13 04:04 AM
5

An argument that holds water doesn't start leaking based on who's making it. I'm all for ignoring people who are known trolls, but I refuse to encourage others to reject an idea out of hand, based purely on its source.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 08:10 PM
4

Except that's what needs to be discussed. Laws aren't created to protect sane people from one another, they're created to protect us from the insane; from the people who would go above and beyond what's reasonable, to take advantage of other human beings for their own benefit.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:54 PM
8

Up/downvoting based on a person's posting history is silly and immature.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:48 PM
3

This won't happen until the government stops getting paid for forcing men to pay.
/r/MensRights12/03/13 06:42 PM
1

Oh, I don't think it's proof of anything. It's just that it's enough to raise my suspicions. And I'm a very opinionated person :P
/r/MensRights12/03/13 05:48 PM
3

For the record, I don't use "She's probably not a real gamer" as an argument to undercut her position. A person's argument will stand or fall apart on its own, regardless of who makes it. My problem is her persistent insistence that she's a gamer, in order to snatch some credibility, as if she can't create arguments that stand on their own. It's the only reason I even bother to make any digs at her gamer cred to begin with. And the fact that her only response to that question is to show that pic…
/r/MensRights12/03/13 12:03 AM
3

I'd say the ad nauseam repetition of the Super Mario storyline has more to do with saving money on writers than any attempt at humor. But your argument still holds.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:57 PM
1

See my above comment.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:49 PM
2

I'm still on the fence about this. She's only ever shown one picture of her playing video games as a kid (she uses it every single time she wants to flaunt her supposed gamer cred). Whether she's telling the truth, or she just happens to have a single snapshot of herself holding a controller that backs up her argument, I don't think we'll ever know. I'd be willing to bet that she's full of shit, but since I don't know her personally, I can't say that without any definitive certainty.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:48 PM
2

Sounds good. :) If you write up something comprehensive enough, you might even consider submitting it to the side bar.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 10:37 PM
5

It was requested if you would be willing to write up some sort of guide for pre-nups, since you've obviously had a positive experience with your own. It would be extremely helpful if you would do so. As long as you can avoid being antagonistic.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:20 PM
2

The worst part of that video is that the screeching harpy completely drowns out all dissent by talking over everyone, making it impossible to actually hear what anybody else has to say.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 09:18 PM
4

Ok, that made me lol.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:07 PM
7

If someone genuinely wants help rather than just bitching, pissing, complaining and moaning Unless that help has to come from you, right?
/r/MensRights11/03/13 08:01 PM
24

Most of the men here couldn't afford it I love how you admit that most men couldn't afford to do what you did, then pile on the arrogant condescension and bile, as if not being rich is a failing of which every man on the planet should be ashamed. If you don't have an inkling of sympathy for your fellow men, then why the fuck are you here?
/r/MensRights11/03/13 06:32 PM
2

Because people who get wrapped up in their own emotions often can't see the forest for the trees. They can't see beyond their own little warped perception of reality, or understand that there's an entire universe outside their own little bubble of feelings.
/r/MensRights11/03/13 06:22 PM
3

My grandmother had this on her feed as well. She thought it was amusing. I commented that it was condescending. But whatever.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 11:45 PM
3

You know, I used to do those online survey things for gift cards and stuff, and they always ask a string of questions about you before deciding if they want you to take their survey or not. This was always one of them, and I was twice as likely to get accepted into the survey if I ticked the box for "yes." Of course, that's probably less discrimination, and more a need to hit a wider demographic.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 05:07 PM
24

And some women do, and some men don't. My point was to take your hypothetical woman and point out that she is a nutcase, not a role model.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 07:31 AM
20

Because she's too much of a control freak to let her husband take care of things.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 07:10 AM
1

sometimes things happen in person, even with video gaming. But we're not talking about things that happen in person (which may or may not happen more often in the gaming community, there is no evidence either way), we're talking about online comments. I don't appreciate having the goalposts shifted. I'm also in favor of not needing go through the "hear/see rape threats online, then block them" bit. Welcome to the internet.
/r/MensRights10/03/13 06:10 AM
1

I've mentioned before that there's a feminist bent to /r/gaming, but nobody seemed to believe me. That thread sort of proves it. =\ Fortunately, the thread over in /r/games is equally active, but involves a lot more intelligent and critical discussion.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 06:04 PM
-11

Oh come on, are you trying to ruin my love of Star Trek: TNG? ;_;
/r/MensRights09/03/13 05:41 PM
35

When people actually applauded her, I died a little inside.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 05:32 PM
1

Ah, thank you.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 05:29 PM
12

Maybe nobody should help anybody anymore :P
/r/MensRights09/03/13 05:29 PM
2

I'd prefer that all those "women's groups" be converted into something more gender-neutral. There's no good reason for women to have the monopoly on financial aid on a gender-neutral issue.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 05:25 PM
-2

Trying to "add to" only gives feminists the chance to usurp all over again. That's what's happening to Valentine's Day. That's what they're trying to do to Father's Day. And if you read up on the history of International Men's Day, you'd see that they did it there, too. Besides, days dedicated to celebrating men and women for having a penis or vagina is silly. Are we also going to create an International Redhead's Day, or International Tall Persons Day? I don't understand this obsession with cre…
/r/MensRights09/03/13 04:33 PM
1

What was this panel for? Was it part of some atheist convention? Edit: Love getting downvoted for asking a question.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 06:24 AM
2

Because in nearly every part of the world where women are abused and violated, men are equally abused and violated (and many times, even more so). "International Men's Day" isn't even a blip on the international radar.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 06:16 AM
1

Unless somebody has you strapped to a chair, with a device holding your eyelids open, I fail to see how it's ever not that easy.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 05:15 AM
1

She actually went onto the 4chan boards and baited them, fucknugget.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 11:33 PM
0

4chan are totally model citizens and we should not complain about their behavior at all. When you bait 4chan, being on the receiving end of their backlash should garner no sympathy. It's like kicking a porcupine, then expecting people to coddle you when you get a dozen quills in the face.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:58 PM
2

I've been the "victim" of rape threats in the middle of an online video game. I told them to go fuck themselves and blocked their correspondence so that it wouldn't interrupt my match.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:48 PM
2

She's had a long history of only letting the "approved" comments through on her videos. She's always censored her stuff, just not always quite as blatantly as this. I think she started doing this sort of thing after her Bayonetta video blew up.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:44 PM
4

That's the way she likes it, though. She's an academic, and little else. She doesn't have an original bone in her body, and if anybody actually convinced her that regurgitating stuff she read in college wasn't the same as actual intellectual research, she'd probably lose her shit.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:42 PM
5

You're like the male version of Femitheist.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:17 PM
4

Watching you argue is like fucking magic lol.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:15 PM
3

It probably won't be settled until we can reliably grow fetuses outside of the womb of a human female.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 10:07 PM
3

I don't understand how you people aren't getting this, if a person has a gun pointed at you or your family. You are in mortal danger and are not subject to murder charges. Defending yourself only stretches until there is no longer a credible threat. Breaking somebody's arm so they'll drop the gun they have pointed at you is self defense. Picking up the gun and shooting him in the head with it while he's rolling around on the ground holding his broken arm is murder. Similarly, the man in this vid…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 08:46 PM
2

And if you killed somebody for pulling a gun out on your wife (on purpose, not in an attempt at defense), then you would go to prison for murder. Maybe not first-degree, but still. Her mistake was that she stopped too soon and should have just killed him then there wouldn't be anybody to question the action and people like r/mensrights to escalate a possible psychopath to martyrdom, the guy very well could have deserved it. I think I'm feeling a little nauseated, having just read this.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:43 PM
1

I've never seen anybody able to answer this. They always fall back on garbage like "the glass ceiling" or "there are more male CEOs and congressmen." Which, of course, doesn't actually answer the question.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 07:18 PM
3

It doesn't actually matter what he did, that's the point. Regardless of what he might have done, she at least escalated things from "self defense" to "attempted murder."
/r/MensRights08/03/13 06:50 PM
3

Yeah, I have a problem with this as well. You can't make an argument for a trend without statistical backing, then wave off every counterexample as an isolated incident. Not to mention that the goalposts on this argument are continuously shifted. Despite the discussion taking place in context of the present gaming industry, any attempt to show that the industry is actually moving away from these tropes is dismissed by dredging up past titles. Then, when it's pointed out that these past titles us…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 06:12 PM
1

These patterns are the problems, because they represent something of the society they are created from. If the patterns represent the society they are created from, then we don't need to even have this discussion. In time, the problem will simply rectify itself, as society and culture at large shifts away from traditional gender roles. Look, the commonality of these tropes aren't a problem because they do any sort of lasting "harm" to people, they're a problem because they encourage lazy writing…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 06:08 PM
7

I disagree with your premise, but agree with your sentiment. Preserving your "honor" in a show of fair play only matters when you're playing a fair game. In a game where the deck is stacked against you, playing to win is perfectly acceptable. But in this case, "playing to win" includes keeping the emotive, fallacious garbage out of our arguments. Reason will prevail if we don't resort to the same shit-flinging tactics that the opposition falls back on.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 08:12 AM
17

The only thing I really agree with her about is that the Damsel in Distress trope reduces the female character to a McGuffin. That said, I find it amusingly sad that, as a media "expert," she manages to completely miss the blindingly obvious truth of how stories are created. In any story, the protagonist is the key, the center, the foundation upon which everything else is built. The conflict, side characters, tangential plot arcs, and even the antagonist, are all created in relation to the prota…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 05:20 AM
2

If you don't attack them then you aren't doing your job Attack feminism, not the people who happen to agree with it. Personal attacks only goad people into throwing up a wall of defensiveness.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 03:00 AM
1

I would have liked if you'd asked your professor if she felt the causes of these issues was due to The Patriarchy™. It's not uncommon for moderate feminists to acknowledge the problems that men face, but most of them still attribute those problems to the feminist boogeyman.
/r/MensRights08/03/13 02:46 AM
2

In other words, you'd prefer for active partners to be mind readers, than for passive partners to actually state what they mean. No, I would rather that people stop trying to impose their rigid ideas of proper bedroom etiquette on others. I would rather that people get to decide for themselves how they want to approach sex, like mature adults, instead of having the government step in and tell them that they have to follow a rulebook that tells them proper procedure before they can get into bed t…
/r/MensRights08/03/13 02:01 AM
7

Except in all cases where body language, facial expression, and/or tone inflection undermines the verbal exchange. In other words, your stance is bullshit.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 05:55 PM
3

This comes back around full circle to the male disposability argument. A woman can't be forced into renting her body out to a child she doesn't want for 9 months, but a man can easily be forced into renting his body out for 18 years to pay for it. Of course, feminists would argue this isn't the same thing. And they would be technically right. But that doesn't make it acceptable.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 05:39 PM
0

This is a difficult topic for me, because I'm pro-life. I have to balance my personal opinions on abortion against the type of equality that stares us in the face in a world where abortion is legal. I have yet to find an answer to this issue.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 05:33 PM
1

GirlWritesWhat was far more eloquent on this subject than I could ever be.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 04:59 PM
-2

Crouching Pedo, Hidden Rapist. I'm going to hell. >.>
/r/MensRights07/03/13 05:38 AM
1

Employees can be fired for creating a hostile work environment, which may or may not include stating that they "hate women" around his coworkers/subordinates. Anything that reduces the productivity of the workplace is grounds for termination. The issue isn't a matter of hate speech, but rather how his actions affect those around him, regardless of what those actions may be.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 02:08 AM
3

lol I look forward to it.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 01:59 AM
1

I don't know, when you have a wall of disposable men willing to do the wetwork that you're not willing to do for yourself, putting on a facade of bravery isn't all that difficult.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 01:54 AM
6

I kinda want a full summary of the discussion. Well, I actually want a full transcript of the discussion, but I'd settle for a summary lol.
/r/MensRights07/03/13 01:48 AM
4

My skin isn't always as thick as I would like, but when I can keep my head on my shoulders, I like to rib them by being "dramatically offended." "You wound me, good sir! Your words, like a knife, have cut at the very flesh of my being. How shall I continue my day under the pain of this blatant demarcation? Woe is my suffering! I shall not forget this slight!" You know, ridiculous and over the top, and deliciously mocking :P
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:30 PM
-2

If men are dicks and women are cunts, then every time you insult a woman, you're literally raping her.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:26 PM
-2

Nigger is a word based on generations of slavery and racial oppression. When women have been through the same, I'll consider wiping cunt from my vocabulary.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:21 PM
-3

Yeah, I never understood why people liked him either, he was never all that funny to me. But now I have something concrete to point to, at least.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:20 PM
2

"Men have feelings too!" "[Citation Needed]"
/r/MensRights06/03/13 05:09 PM
1

If it makes you feel any better, I'm male and I've been called a feminist for doing the same thing. There are, unfortunately, some people who are like that in any movement and community. But that's why growing thicker skin is necessary, so you don't let those people get under it.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 04:59 PM
2

That's the thing though, he wasn't being arrested. He was being approached by an officer and asked to go with him for questioning, which he as ever right to refuse. Except he was specifically charged with resisting arrest, which isn't the same thing at all.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 03:14 AM
1

I didn't even fucking read the article, you shit-flinging jackenape. Don't put words in my mouth, or presume to speak for me, as I can do it well enough for myself. Your original argument was scattered and unclear, as were your followup arguments. We ultimately argued the same side, without realizing it, and I attempted to clear that up by asking you to explain your position. I don't appreciate my attempt at civil discourse being pissed on, thank you very much.
/r/MensRights06/03/13 12:38 AM
1

I'm not sure I actually understand your point. Are you arguing that some peoples' priorities don't fit your ideal of a "priority," or are you arguing against the writer's idea of what constitutes the highest priority for men?
/r/MensRights05/03/13 11:43 PM
1

Depends. To some people, that sort of meeting could be their only way to keep in touch with their childhood friends, or their extended family, or any other number of things. It could be their single day a week of pursuing their passion or hobby outside of work, or the only night that their SO can meet for a date night. It's not fair to take your own personal priorities and project them onto other people, solely for the sake of ridicule and condemnation.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 10:15 PM
7

Why is the cause of arrest not listed in this story? Police can't just arrest somebody for walking down the street. The article, as-written, sounds incredibly sensationalist. I would like to know what it was he was being arrested for, before deciding if I should be outraged by this situation.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:26 PM
1

http://images.sodahead.com/polls/003536997/22112949_thats_the_joke_xlarge.jpeg
/r/MensRights05/03/13 09:13 PM
63

They have every right to do it. And we have every right to call them bigots for what they're doing.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 06:43 AM
1

The only legitimate "issue" I've seen from the WRM is abortion rights, which are far more complex than simply "do we let women control their own body or not," and shouldn't be reduced to such. Every other "issue" I've heard WRAs talk about have been Human issues, redressed as Women's issues.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 05:18 AM
1

Thank you, that's all I'm trying to say.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 03:25 AM
0

I think that "I want a handjob" doesn't preclude a baseball bat up the ass one way or the other. It's something that you test the boundaries of, because it's two consenting adults who know how to say "no" when something has gone too far.
/r/MensRights05/03/13 12:39 AM
-3

Then [she] told me it was partly my fault because I was aroused and grinding up against [her]. This seems to imply a possibility of mixed signals. Do you agree?
/r/MensRights04/03/13 11:15 PM
-1

Does that mean she consents to having a baseball shoved up her ass? Would you like me to find a video of this in order to illustrate the fact that reductio ad absurdum only works when you use an example that's actually absurd?
/r/MensRights04/03/13 11:13 PM
1

Nobody's saying anything about forcing somebody to do what they don't want to do. I'm talking about saying "no" but giving no bodily reactions that would indicate that your "no" is actually truthful. Let's go back to the "blowjob but no sex" situation. You're happy to get the blowjob but don't want to actually fuck, and you state as much. However, after sucking your dick for a while, she tries to mount you. If you lay there and let her do it, you're contradicting your earlier "no" by just lettin…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 09:39 PM
-1

Does this help: when a man keeps grinding his dick against a woman, it's no different then when a woman keeps grinding her vagina against a man?
/r/MensRights04/03/13 09:22 PM
0

The boundary is where common sense dictates. If words are more important than actions, then why do we not accept feminism as an equality movement? If words are louder than actions, then why does, "I'm fine, don't worry about it," ring hollow when dealing with relationship issues? If words are the higher form of communication, then why do we even bother to evaluate body language and facial expression when dealing with inter-personal communication? There is never a single right answer to the issue…
/r/MensRights04/03/13 09:13 PM
-3

And words aren't a magic spell that automatically impart truth to those who hear them. If you don't want to have sex, don't act like you want to have sex. It's really quite that simple.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 08:23 PM
-1

Dry humping somebody's leg while simultaneously saying "No, please don't fuck me" isn't exactly a compelling argument to stop.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 07:30 PM
-4

I interpreted it Exactly. You interpreted it. It wasn't stated, it wasn't spelled out, it was interpreted. Which means that there's an equal opportunity to interpret it in any other way under the sun. Making snap judgments about people based on a complete lack of info doesn't help anyone.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 07:15 PM
1

I'm not sure if he had the original thought, but I know that this metaphor was touched on in one of JohntheOther's videos.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 06:57 PM
6

Amen, preach it brother!
/r/MensRights04/03/13 06:45 PM
-2

Feminist bullshit is the "no is always no" garbage that completely ignores body language.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 06:44 PM
6

Nothing like this is even remotely implied in the OP. As it stands, the post is confusing and lacks important information to make any sort of judgment one way or the other.
/r/MensRights04/03/13 06:43 PM
2

Don't worry. I'm guessing the women they hire won't like being treated as pieces of meat to get people to pay for more drinks. It sounds like a shitty employer. They're clearly doing it to get some boobs on the floor. Yeah, and nobody ever works at Hooters, right?
/r/MensRights03/03/13 07:42 AM
-2

Again, this doesn't demonstrate that boys aren't targeted for unwarranted discipline under these policies because of their gender. No, it demonstrates that this is not a gender-biased issue. It's just an example of a kid who made a bad choice and got into trouble for it. When I was in elementary school, a friend and I drew some pretty twisted shit in our spare time during class. A lot of it involved people getting brutally killed. My teacher was concerned, and so told my parents about it, who to…
/r/MensRights03/03/13 04:45 AM
0

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/21/us/pennsylvania-girl-suspended http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2255205/Sandy-Hook-shooting-Girl-17-suspended-school-writing-poem-massacre.html We already get enough "this is a women's issue, because women suffer from it more!!" from feminists. We don't need to pull the same crap from the opposite side in the MRM.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 03:58 AM
-7

That doesn't make it any more a black issue than it does a men's issue.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 03:13 AM
0

This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand, as such behavior cannot be attributed to the writer of the original article just because you believe it to be so. I will not be drawn into a tangential argument by your shifting goalposts.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 03:06 AM
7

This story is incredibly stupid, but this isn't a men's rights issue. This sort of thing happens across the board, for children of both sexes. And no, just because boys are more likely to play with pretend guns than girls does not make this a boy crisis.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 03:02 AM
1

She needs to be reprimanded, because she's attempting to indoctrinate students with her ideology, when she should be teaching them grammar and literature. This isn't about whether she's right or wrong, it's about using her authority as a teacher to push her political agenda onto impressionable teenagers. You wouldn't allow a christian science professor to use his position to teach creationism. Feminism, like any other political/social platform, should be reserved for the appropriate venue. When …
/r/MensRights03/03/13 02:59 AM
0

There's a difference in perception between an academic discussion and real life actions. The paradigm changes completely when actually faced with a situation, as opposed to talking about it from a hypothetical, 3rd-person perspective. This is why self-reporting studies are worthless, because people often have a self-image that differs from reality. What a person believes during a debate may change radically in the heat of the moment.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 01:29 AM
0

Vilification happens on these boards, and you'd have to be blind to miss it. That isn't to say it happens all the time, or that everybody does it, but it does happen, and those who do it are often up-voted for the effort. Other than that, I feel like you believe that I disagree with your premise, which I do not. I disagree with the idea of treating the majority of feminists like they hold their beliefs in an intentional attempt to be monstrous and evil. It just doesn't serve any purpose, and onl…
/r/MensRights03/03/13 12:32 AM
1

Probably for the same reason that people think that lying to somebody's face, cheating on your SO, and any other number of non-criminal actions are abhorrent. Because something doesn't have to be against the law to fly against a person's moral center.
/r/MensRights03/03/13 12:24 AM
1

Some of us believe that the government has gotten a little too big for its own good.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 10:36 PM
0

Shrugs We can argue all day about whether a person deserves to be vilified for their beliefs or not, but I'm of the opinion that the world would be a better place if we could be more understanding of one another. Feminism's tenets are misandrist to the core, and they should be fought whenever and wherever they can. But it's not easy to shake off indoctrination. People will fight tooth and nail to protect their little bubble of self-delusion if the only other option is to have their entire world …
/r/MensRights02/03/13 10:29 PM
6

Go to Pakistan, Mongolia, and the Congo for some perspective. The women there ABSOLUTELY need to be empowered. If you're going to brush off what I have to say, you need to be more specific in your commentary. "Empowerment" can include a lot of things, and one of the biggest issues that's always brought up is sexual assault in third-world countries.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 10:21 PM
0

I think the point that Tyrien was trying to make is that it shouldn't be the place of the government to make the decision for them. If a test option was granted as a matter of course, that would be one thing, but to force one upon a couple is a bit unfair. Afterall, the relationship dynamics between two people is none of the government's business, and any unwanted interjection is just another chip off of the bedrock of our supposed freedom of choice.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 10:20 PM
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While this is true to an extent, it doesn't do a whole lot of good to start attacking every person who claims to be a feminist, on some misguided campaign of "principle." The problem is a combination of Gender Feminism and humans' blind acquiescence to authority. Most "feminists" don't actually know anything about feminism and just regurgitate what they've been spoonfed for years. These people can be reprogrammed and converted away from the tenets of feminism, given enough time and patience. We …
/r/MensRights02/03/13 10:12 PM
9

This is what all feminists say, and it's always a huge load of shit. You don't help men by helping women first.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 09:52 PM
9

You mean like how in the Congo, 30% of women suffer conflict-related sexual violence, compared to 22% of men? Yeah, I'm sure that paltry 8% gender gap is totally worth completely ignoring the male victims of rape in that part of the world.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 09:49 PM
0

I'm not discounting anything. The legal possibilities doesn't take away from the fact that the majority of women find rape abhorrent, and wouldn't even dream of forcing sex on somebody who didn't want it, regardless of how they see female-on-male rape.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 09:40 PM
2

I feel like you're trying to say something, but I've completely missed it.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 08:19 PM
2

Misleading title, spotlighting an unimportant corner of the internet.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 08:16 PM
2

Fair enough.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 05:59 PM
3

I actually think that a lot of this stems directly from the effect that feminism has had on our society. One of the commenters said: its important to remember, a bully (I’ve had two in my life, both women managers) can only operate if management above her lets that happen. In both instances the managers above the female bully were men, who had a completely lassez faire attitude towards the woman. One in particular never visited our office (which was co located) the same people (her Mob) were com…
/r/MensRights02/03/13 05:56 PM
2

That's not very clear, I think. That sounds like the sort of line you feed to a girl to appear gentlemanly.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 05:42 PM
-1

As much as the current legal system blows, I would bet money that the wide majority of women would be appalled at the idea of abusing it in that way.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 05:35 PM
5

If the woman would break up with me just because of the sex, that concerns me. I just wanted to point out that "just because of the sex" is dismissive of a larger issue. Sex is very important to some people, and for many, it's a form of intimacy. Being in a long term relationship with somebody who doesn't share your libido can be a match made in hell, and can create a lot of resentment from both parties in the long run.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 05:32 PM
4

Upvote for making me laugh xD
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:28 PM
11

I think it wouldn't even occur to most of them that the best way to create equality would be to not go out of your way to put focus on peoples' differences.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:26 PM
1

I think you've just won the internet.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:22 PM
1

All I can really do is take your word for it that that is indeed what's going on here, because as I said, I don't actually know these peoples' political leanings. I don't like using labels for myself, because I feel that I just believe what I believe, and I shouldn't have to ascribe to a specific ideology in order to do so. That said, I feel that there are reasons to believe that the high rates of crime and imprisonment in black communities has to do more with socio-economic factors and a lack o…
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:07 AM
2

I'm for equality of opportunity. People can make their own choices one way or the other, and should be allowed to do so.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:04 AM
0

Doesn't make the lists any less suck.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:03 AM
0

Don't worry, I liked your metaphor :P
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:01 AM
0

lol that would be Kristin Stewart. Don't lump Hermione Granger in with that no-talent hack :P
/r/MensRights02/03/13 04:00 AM
3

That was... that was just disgusting.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 03:59 AM
7

As a 27 year old male who enjoys video games, anime, star trek, star wars, urban fantasy novels, Magic: The Gathering, Dungeons & Dragons, and other such "nerdy" pursuits, I understand where you're coming from. I've struggled with this in the past, and I'm sure plenty of other men and boys have as well. And so, as somebody who is experienced in this area, I feel it's my responsibility to point out that you have a third option - grow thicker skin. It's currently socially acceptable for people (no…
/r/MensRights02/03/13 03:50 AM
2

JabCross is often spiteful and volatile, but that doesn't undermine what he's said if it's actually the truth. I don't know who these women are, or what their politics happen to be, but if they are indeed racist, then it's should be perfectly acceptable to say that they are racist.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 03:32 AM
5

Traditionalists may be used to further the ends of equality, but it should be noted that they don't actually want equality. Just because they happen to be on our side on a certain issue doesn't make them our "allies," any more than a dog is your friend for not pissing on your feet this time.
/r/MensRights02/03/13 03:30 AM
2

Since when does highschool teach Patriarchy Theory, especially in English class?
/r/MensRights02/03/13 01:02 AM
-1

I feel like old literature shouldn't be read in pre-college english classes without a discussion afterward about the affects of time and cultural norms on how an author approaches their plot. Also, middle/highschool reading lists are all garbage. They're full of "classic" literature that's over a half century old, and nobody wants to read.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 11:24 PM
1

That teacher needs to be reprimanded for that garbage. You're in English class to learn about literature and grammar, not to be indoctrinated. Edit: Since when did the MRM advocate teaching feminism to students in english class?
/r/MensRights01/03/13 11:21 PM
3

I'm almost positive this is about the goings-on at UCLU. There was a thread posted about this situation, yesterday.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 06:21 PM
13

Worth it.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 06:10 PM
18

Good on him. I hope that the school actually takes his side on this and does something about it. I just wish there were a way to wipe away the damage that's been done to his reputation.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 05:58 PM
7

I laughed soooo hard when I read that. Sometimes, you just have to laugh in the face of absurdity.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 05:42 PM
7

There is no such thing as something that is too sacred to make fun of.
/r/MensRights01/03/13 08:21 AM
0

The reason for it is pretty simple once you understand their groupthink. They know that false rape accusations hurt the credibility of those who are actually raped, but since their entire creedo rests on the idea that men are perpetrators and women are victims, letting the blame of false rape accusations fall on the women who trump up the charges would undermine their rhetoric. The only other way to combat it is to bury the information and pretend it doesn't exist (or make it as small as possibl…
/r/MensRights01/03/13 08:18 AM
4

I don't know why you got downvoted. He seems intelligent and genuinely concerned about problems with the student union, as well as issues pertaining to the image of middle class white males (being perceived as sexists, by and large). One of the commenters posted a link to his/her blog post about Kirk's candidacy; I admittedly didn't read more than the first paragraph because it was a load of horse shit, but the blogger linked Kirk's "manifesto," which was fantastically snarky and moderately amus…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 10:12 PM
1

It's not my fault that the quote was taken out of context. In any case, my plea to objectivity was dealing with the arbitrariness of some of our laws, not with the image, specifically
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:26 PM
1

To be fair, I'd welcome more games that allow for non-combat resolutions. It'd be awesome to have a more open-ended gameplay experience where you can pick and choose how you want to approach conflict. But I get what you're saying :P
/r/MensRights28/02/13 07:01 PM
3

I feel that the pursuit of the largest potential customer base will lead to shitty, homogeneous design.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 06:43 PM
14

Under all the double standard bullshit lay the travesty that they're actually trying to accuse teenagers of distributing child pornography for showing nude pics of girls their own age.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 06:05 PM
0

Just keep digging that hole, bro.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:41 PM
2

I don't think this is as much a problem as their "objectification" argument. I mean, I don't remember there being any outcry over Faith getting shot at as she ran parkour, or when FemShep got sliced up by Kai Leng. It honestly seems like they're more concerned with a character showing her tits than being beaten down, shot at, cut up, or anything else.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:40 PM
1

Ohhhh yeah I caught that when I was channel-surfing. That was freaking brutal lol.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:32 PM
1

I think that stance is more common. But there's a difference between "I prefer male characters" and "I refuse to play games that star female characters."
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:29 PM
0

You should really not put words in my mouth.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:27 PM
1

The lack of a "no" or any attempt to stop him grants implied consent. Without more information about her actual body language, there's nothing more that can be gleaned than that.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:26 PM
1

That's always been one of my major contentions. We don't put shackles on creativity for art (yes, video games are an art form).
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:25 PM
1

You're going to have to elaborate on that.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:23 PM
9

I'm pretty sure nobody ever said anything about making game protagonists 90% female. I was saying that I think you're in the minority of having a deep-seated issue with female protagonists that keeps you from buying games that require playing as them.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:38 AM
18

That's totally up to you, and you're welcome to spend your money how you wish, but I'm pretty sure you're in the minority.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:29 AM
1

Shrugs I get a bug up my butt to make the arguments from time to time, but I typically don't bother, because I've learned after beating my head against that brick wall that it's a waste of time. I'll do it when there's an audience, but I pretty much have a list of words and phrases that automatically take me out of any 1-on-1 discussion with a feminist. The primary of those being Patriarchy, Rape Culture, and Objectification.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:28 AM
1

"Grooming" is actually something that I learned when I was in therapy as a teenager. So it's been around for at least a good decade or so. Pedophile has come to a point where it's used in any case of sex with a person under 18, despite the fact that pedophilia is a state of mind, not an act, and the fact that the proper word is ephebophila. Then we have the ever-present "creep," and I don't think that one needs explaining.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:25 AM
2

And just like my problem with approaching women is just that - my problem - your proposed example is the same. I don't expect everybody else to accommodate for my anxiety issues, and if a person is so timid that they would rather get fucked than tell a person "no," then they should consider hiding under a blanket instead of putting themselves in sexually compromising positions.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 09:23 AM
1

It's good to know that basic math is not among your list of personal skills.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 08:22 AM
1

That depends entirely on your point of view. I have no problem telling somebody "no" when I don't want to do something. But as an introvert with moderate social anxiety, I sputter when I try to ask somebody out on a date, much less asking if I can stick my penis inside them.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 08:09 AM
1

In a perfect world, both parties would be responsible enough to play their parts - one asking, and one answering with a definitive yes or no. But this isn't a perfect world, and short of passing legislation about it (which would fuck over more people that it would help), you just can't assume that every person is going to ask first. Prudence dictates that in such an imperfect world, we teach children to be willing and able to speak up for themselves.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 07:34 AM
2

Another one who is successfully ignoring most research on child development; where despite obvious physical differences they still maintain that gender is purely social. This is the same issue that's happening in the video game industry.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 07:06 AM
9

Let me rephrase... There's no point in trying to prove it to a feminist. If you can get a handful of fence-sitters watching the argument, then it's totally worth the effort. But those who are preaching the feminist agenda are already set in their way of thinking, and they already have excuses to cover any piece of logic you might have to discredit them.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 06:57 AM
2

lol I spent the last hour watching Star Trek TNG, don't flatter yourself.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 06:55 AM
1

This is why I feel it's important that people learn to speak up for themselves from an early age. You can't always count on somebody coming straight out and verbally asking you if it's OK before they do something, but at least you can learn to always say "NO" if you're not OK with what they're doing. I have no problem with people becoming more vocal about sex overall, god knows that being more vocal would fix a lot of dead-bedroom issues, but it's not always going to happen.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 06:02 AM
2

I read your threads. You were throwing a hissy-fit. Sorry, bro.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:58 AM
2

Which is exceptionally sad.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:56 AM
8

I just wanted to say that I agree completely. The travesty here is the judge's admission that he would have granted jail time to the male, if the sexes were reversed. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person who sees these cases objectively.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:53 AM
35

"But how often do you get to play as a woman??" There is no argument you can make that they won't be able to undermine by shifting the goalposts.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:47 AM
47

"But it's different for women!!" Every. Single. Time. There's no point in trying to prove that men are objectified as well, because even if you can get one of them to agree to that premise, they'll always undermine it with the assertion that it's worse when it happens to women.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:45 AM
3

Dude, you tracked drama through three seperate subreddits (askwomen, askmen, then mensrights). Any point you may have had got lost in the shuffle when you kept harping on something that was already finished and done with, then started banging on about how /r/mensrights was going to die because people refused to back up your hissy-fit.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:40 AM
3

Think about it this way... Woman goes into a romantic evening after a long and weary day at work, putting the cards on the table. "No sex tonight, baby, I'm not in the mood." After dinner, the two of them cuddle on the couch for a movie, where he takes some time kissing on her neck and nibbling on one of her ears. Gradually, she becomes turned on and her mood changes. She doesn't say such, her body language changes, making it clear that she's giving the green light. Now, this is a single scenari…
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:28 AM
1

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I needed to be pedantic. Intent is required for conviction of rape by law.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 05:12 AM
0

Your thread was pedantic and belligerent. Acting like a victim will get you dismissed.
/r/MensRights28/02/13 12:27 AM
-2

She never made an attempt to stop the escalation from kissing to sex. Implied consent holds here.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 11:07 PM
0

Don't feel too bad, guys have the same problem. Withdrawing from the consent of sex with a girl can be seen as a "bitch move," and is often met with scorn, incredulousness, and questions of the person's manhood. So you're not alone.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:20 PM
1

She said she didn't want to have sex. A reasonable person would have been aware that she was not consenting, and a reasonable person would, remembering this, should have taken two seconds between kisses during the escalation to ask if she'd changed her mind. If a yes can be withdrawn at a later time, then so can a no. Whether he should have asked is up for debate, but definitely irrelevant to the question of "Is this rape?"
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:18 PM
1

That's why I propose teaching people to better stand up for themselves. There will always be pricks and selfish, sick people who will take advantage of any situation. No amount of telling people to ask for permission (which is going to only be as useful as those who are willing to be honest with their response) is ever going to replace teaching people to stand up for themselves. And learning to speak up helps in other walks of life as well, so it's sort of a win-win, really.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:10 PM
0

No, the exact circumstances she is describing is not rape. Rape, like most crime, requires mens rea - in this case, the belief that a reasonable person would have been aware that she was not consenting. Since she admitted that at no time did she attempt to stop what was happening, it can be inferred that a reasonable person would not, in fact, realize that she wasn't consenting to sex. She may feel violated. She may feel taken advantage of, or even used. However, none of those things are rape. Y…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 10:05 PM
1

I'm sorry to hear that. I tend to be pretty sensitive to non-verbal cues, having spent over two years in intensive therapy, as a teenager, where personal boundaries were over-emphasized (I generally don't even touch people if at all possible). But I understand that not everybody is the same, and I try to look at the view of everybody involved, instead of just standing upon my own.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 09:52 PM
1

Assuming "terrified silence" is actually what happened. There is no context to the article, subjective or otherwise, with which to build an assumption. Any attempt to interject details that haven't been stated is disingenuous at best.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 09:49 PM
0

This does not sound like someone with sufficient emotional maturity to cope with having sex. Some people are brought up to believe that sex is dirty, and that they are dirty for participating in it. Others are taught that sex is something you do, not something you talk about. Still others believe that having sex will make them a slut, or will be a point of vilification among their friends. A few enjoy playing coy and being chased. And some are just easily embarrassed and don't have the social ex…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 08:14 PM
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Regardless, just because he couldn't read his mind doesn't make my old neighbor any less of a rapist in my mind. That's really not fair. If she didn't know that he didn't want to do it, then it's really not her fault. Most people are essentially good, if a little selfish. I think there's too much emphasis on the word "rape" these days. What happened to "violated"? Or "taken advantage of"? Not every act of unwanted sex is rape, especially when the supposed rapist doesn't actually know that the ot…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 08:08 PM
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And what happens when you get kicked out of her place for ruining the mood by asking a stupid question? Or she says no, not because she doesn't want to, but because she's too embarrassed to admit that she wants it? Warren Farrel's research showed that approximately 40% of women said "no" while they were thinking "yes." Verbal consent goes about as far as I can throw it when you're dealing with somebody who's playing coy.
/r/MensRights27/02/13 08:03 PM
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I think we should teach people to be open-minded and strong-willed. I'm against making people feel like they have to ask permission to have sex, because not every sexual situation is going to lend itself well to verbal expression, and not every person is going to feel comfortable talking about it. Verbal communication is fantastic, and I'm all for it, but I don't want to live in a society where we lose the beautiful nuance that comes from bodily and facial expression, just because people are too…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 07:54 PM
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Some people are users and just can't take no for an answer. The fact that this guy was a creep enough to keep pushing despite your many cues just goes to show that the problem isn't whether or not people ask. Pricks will be pricks, and everybody else is likely to back off if you just stand up for yourself. But not everybody is going to think to ask. Afterall, as I said, the majority of human communication is non-verbal. As long as you can speak up for yourself, most reasonable people are going t…
/r/MensRights27/02/13 07:50 PM
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Your point only stands if women are also not allowed to change their "yes" into a "no" at a later point (which we know not to be the case). A person's decision doesn't have a specific time of expiration, and can be changed at any time. The fact that the girl went through with it and didn't make any attempt to stop the act grants presumed consent, even if she didn't actually want to have sex. He's not a mind-reader, and she didn't try to stop him at any point. There's reasonable cause to believe …
/r/MensRights27/02/13 07:41 PM
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