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-1

I know you are saying this in jest, but is is scientifically proven that many of the physical attributes we consider attractive are directly linked to how healthy a woman is and her ability to produce healthy offspring.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:18 PM
6

Bro goes to thepassportbro sub and every other post is: “So my new Thai girlfriend is telling me her grandma is sick and her cousins need money for school supplies. How many bhats should I wire her?”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:17 PM
2

So let’s discount the positive just because it doesn’t fit into your idea of how things should be?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 08:13 PM
1

Did you mean the guy who helps you withdraw cash from your bank account?
/r/seduction10/08/24 06:42 PM
4

If I see her first I say “hi”. If I notice her checking me out, I walk over and say “I noticed you noticing me. I have to say, I really admire a girl with excellent taste in men”.
/r/seduction10/08/24 06:41 PM
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You’ve been reported for Contentless rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 06:27 PM
-4

Happens all the friggin time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:40 PM
1

Bet that grouper wasn’t the only fish you were munching on!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:39 PM
3

You are not one of those guys who is hitting on girls in the grocery store, are you? Cause I totally am that guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:10 PM
-2

Didn’t know self proclaimed incels had so much experience picking up women. Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 01:05 PM
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You have already friendzoned yourself
/r/seduction10/08/24 12:11 PM
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Women approach men all the time. Sure, they don’t do it in the way most men would prefer like “hey hot stuff, wanna get out of here”, but they will make eye contact, smile, tilt their head flirtily, they will dance in your line of sight, or bend over in front of you to show off their assets, they might non chalantly ask you something stupid, like for example, I was having a coffee at a Starbucks one day and a girl sat next to me and asked me if I knew where the closest Wells Fargo branch was. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:38 AM
2

I completely agree with you, but you have to understand that Reddit and PPD in particular, draws a very peculiar crowd of people. Most of the men are socially anxious, self isolating geeks and most of the women are neurotic, introverted cat ladies. I always make fun of their claims that they only sleep with men they have slept with before (being sarcastic here). I’ve approached so many women and have found ons, FWB, LTRs and even met my wife through cold approach. I’m sure there are weird women …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/24 11:33 AM
1

Go listen to Johnny Soporno’s Seductive Reasoning 101.
/r/seduction10/08/24 01:54 AM
1

Have you asked yourself why pickup artists tell you to approach 10,000 women? Because they barely if ever get laid. If they actually got laid and had some girlfriends they wouldn’t have the time to approach even 10 women a night. Lol
/r/seduction10/08/24 12:10 AM
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Ah yeah. Common problem. You believe you need love in order to be happy. Go read the chapter on love addiction in Feeling Good by Dr. David Burns.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:43 PM
2

I’ve dated over two decades and one decade married. Just by walking around and interacting with women on a daily basis, I see many of them are desperately lonely and frustrated with men and what pussies they’ve turned into. If I were to start dating g again, it would be like shooting first in a barrel with women half my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:03 PM
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As someone who was very much the same way, let me give you a piece of advice. You need to learn to play the mating game. You cannot fast forward relationships and act like you e been dating for 2 years when it’s your 2 date. You need to pace yourself and be cool. Don’t jump head first into the deep end of the pool. It comes across very needy and neediness forces women to reject you. Men make this same mistake over and over and over. I guess it’s being so desperate for pussy and affection that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:01 PM
1

Pornhub.com
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:55 PM
2

Well, it’s not about what you do, it’s about who you are. So if you are needy loser, no matter how many women you approach, your outcomes are always going to be the same. Actually, when I was doing ever stuff, there were less women who were attracted to me as opposed to when I was a shy teenager who had never spoken to a woman he didn’t know. Somehow when I was more shy and withdrawn I came across as more interesting then when I was going around asking women for their phone numbers. Here is the …
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:54 PM
-5

Stick out your index and middle finger forming a V and then flicker your tongue between the two fingers while making eye contact with him.
/r/seduction09/08/24 08:39 PM
0

lol? So why you say in your title after a booty call? Dude you are fucking retard
/r/seduction09/08/24 06:41 PM
0

Download the Feeling Great app from the App Store. It was developed by Dr David Burns who popularize cognitive behavioral therapy and developed many tools and methods to overcome poor self esteem and depression.
/r/seduction09/08/24 06:22 PM
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I would say yes. I’m married so I don’t do it anymore, but I get so many IOIs on a daily basis, I could probably get several new girls every week. Once you are seeing 3 girls or so, you won’t even need to go out every week, nevermind every single day like some of these guys do. But I have worked hard to develop the aura and inner game that I have, which radiates from the inside and women sense this. So it’s not about “gaming” them. It’s about seeing if they can add something to your life, not th…
/r/seduction09/08/24 05:03 PM
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Well if you walk around and stop women on the street like a homeless methhead, probably not. But if you pay attention and knock on doors that are held open for you, you can be pretty successful without all this effort.
/r/seduction09/08/24 03:58 PM
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The only ethics I’m concerned with are not doing anything to intentionally hurt another human being or sentient living being. I also don’t believe sex and gender roles are normatively binding, because that implies socially created norms. I believe that people are better off getting in touch with their true nature and acting from it. Women often do this subconsciously. When they reject nice guys, they are not doing it out of maliciousness or going against the social norms. It’s just something tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 03:01 PM
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What if I told you you can have near 100% success rate?
/r/seduction09/08/24 02:41 PM
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Womp womp
/r/seduction09/08/24 02:01 PM
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I stopped reading after your first sentence. That’s your problem. The fuck does dating any girl I find cute mean? If you are going to take anything that comes your way, what does it say about your confidence, self esteem, drive, ambition? Not good things, that’s for sure.
/r/seduction09/08/24 01:55 PM
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Maybe try something else, ay
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:37 PM
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I think you have everything backwards. You have to figure out what you want. You have to have a goal or an objective. Like a commando. You don’t just get dropped into enemy territory and start shooting and hoping that somehow this will lead to the desired outcome. Decide what it is you want from women (sex, causal dating, relationship, wife, etc ). Then decide what kind of woman you want for that (physical type, qualities, personality, how she treats you, etc). These are extremely important. Don…
/r/seduction09/08/24 01:31 PM
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Sounds like you’ve given up on yourself and are now pickachu face why women don’t want you anymore.
/r/seduction09/08/24 12:42 PM
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😂
/r/seduction09/08/24 12:40 PM
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So are you saying men should start fucking couches?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:25 PM
1

Are you James Cavill or Jason Momoa?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 12:23 PM
0

What makes men hot is not what makes women hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 11:39 AM
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Telling a woman that you want to be friends is a sure way to make her chase you for the rest of your life. You are such an asshole!
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:50 AM
1

Download the Feeling Great app and do therapy on yourself with the AI until you have eliminated your negative thoughts.
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:49 AM
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https://youtu.be/gui6fOa01G4?si=W1O0AgKwM8SGxAbC
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:46 AM
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I also ultimately look better with some muscle, good haircut, and expensive clothes, yet I hate the feeling of having to sweat in the gym and go to work to earn the money to pay for my appearance.
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:42 AM
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First things first. The only power women really have is the power you give them. None of them are forcing you at gun point to pay for sex. If you don’t get sex, you don’t die, become disabled or have any other severe repercussions. So men treating women like goddesses is on them. They are the one throwing their power away to women. The women just take advantage of the stupid men. I have very high opinion of individuals who I respect. While I love women, I certainly do not put them on any pedesta…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:41 AM
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It’s a really retarded idea like most ideas that came out of pickup. Such as “you have to put your hands on a woman within 5 seconds of meeting her”. And “you should always be displaying high value” and all this crap. By aiming to have sex with her on the first date, you are making her sex the prize. The trophy you are so desperately trying to win. This is absolutely the worst way to go about things.
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:35 AM
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It’s subtle code for “I’m going to play games with you and manipulate the shit out of you and you will never get to even sniff my pussy”.
/r/seduction09/08/24 10:34 AM
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Did you really fall for women’s oldest “game”? The “all men are such dogs, they only want me for my body, why can’t I just live my life without being objectified” game that every single woman knows how to play very well and which turns men into average frustrated chumps? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:32 AM
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Those women have something men want (physical looks). Emotionally dependent men who can’t handle their own lives don’t have anything that women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:29 AM
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I mean the brainwashing is definitely there and it affects many many men. It’s not something that’s isolated. That’s for sure. We are all taught to toe the line, keep our heads down, be nice, don’t be selfish, it’s bad to be selfish, it’s bad to put yourself first, blah blah blah. I mean I watch NatGeo and there was a program about some birds who all raise their young on this island. The minute the young can fly, the parent birds start kicking them out of the nest, teaching them how to fly, teac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 10:27 AM
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Do you have any idea how the scientific method operates? Scientists usually observe a phenomenon in the real world. They develop a hypothesis attempting to explain said phenomenon. Then they proceed to devise a number of experiments to prove their hypothesis. If their experiments fail, the scientist must discard their hypothesis. If the experiments successfully support the hypothesis, then the hypothesis stands. How does this relate to you? If your model of the world and women is proven over and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:18 AM
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If an ideology has shoulds/musts/oughts, then yes. The only valid shoulds are those that have to do with morality (social contract about harming others - you should not kill, steal, etc)., laws (again social contract - you should not speed, sell drugs, etc., because it may harm others) and natural laws (gravity, speed of light, etc.). Saying women should be this way or that way, or women should have sex with average, unremarkable men, you are stepping into crazy, irrational territory. Or the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 04:14 AM
1

Can you all just block this loser
/r/seduction09/08/24 02:39 AM
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Ys
/r/seduction09/08/24 02:38 AM
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As long as a man rejects himself or aspects of himself, whether that’s his looks, height, career, social skills, his past, etc., women will sense this and dinner or later reject him as well. The problem with incels ain’t their relationship with women (which is non existent anyway), the problem is their relationship with themselves.
/r/seduction09/08/24 02:01 AM
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Stop drinking and eating any dairy and any added sugars. Your skin will clear up in about a month.
/r/seduction09/08/24 02:00 AM
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The suffering is caused by their own thinking. They view the world/women in very rigid shoulds/oughts and musts. As in, women should be submissive, women should know their lane and go for average, unremarkable men, dating should be fair, nice guys should be rewarded with pussy/love and so forth. Their suffering comes from their failure to accept things the way they are instead of the way they think things should be.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/24 01:46 AM
0

At least say you are a bouncer. Security guards like super low level.
/r/seduction08/08/24 11:58 PM
2

Start by checking out other women in front of her. Then start flirting with other women when she’s not around and then graduate to flirting subtly with other women in front of her.
/r/seduction08/08/24 11:57 PM
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Not that I know of. No more Mr nice guy probably comes close, but I think it’s a bit too psychoanalytical. At the end of it; the author concludes you wanted to fuck your mom after all. That’s bullshit. You don’t need to psychoanalyse yourself. Try something like Feeling Great by Dr David Burns. He is the guy who developed cognitive behavioral therapy and the ideas there about paradoxical acceptance and being okay with your flaws, etc is very powerful.
/r/seduction08/08/24 11:12 PM
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The reason women tell you that men should be kinder to each other is because you always complain that women aren’t giving you enough attention, compliments and head pats. Women are saying it’s not my job to be your mommy. I’m not your mom! Ask other men to be nice to you”. And they have a point. It’s not their job to make your booboo feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 07:07 PM
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Why do you need women to be kind to you if you don’t care about them?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:53 PM
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Men always cause their own problems. You have to understand once and for all, that your incessant neediness and demandingness for women to fix your social and romantic problems is the greatest turn off ever. Put yourself in their shoes and ask yourself why would they want to date someone who can’t get a handle on his own life, emotional needs and everything else. The awesome women you want are out there wanting awesome men. Not sad sacks with no self esteem, friends or life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:32 PM
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That’s what makes pickmes great. They deal with it because they know it pleases their man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:29 PM
1

I mean she did reach out to you already. What more do you want?
/r/seduction08/08/24 06:28 PM
4

Yeah but pickmes swallow and that’s all you need to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 06:27 PM
2

Oh my
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:15 PM
1

Weird but okay…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:11 PM
-1

You are only attracted to men you know intimately?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:06 PM
-5

Totally makes sense! It’s not like everyone you know was a stranger at one point…..oh wait!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:03 PM

Wrong!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:00 PM
-3

You only know people you have known before and date people you’ve dated before?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 05:00 PM
1

Can you indemnify which cognitive distortion is present in the last thing you described? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 04:14 PM
2

I’m the contact of interpersonal relationships, power means what I said. Yes, obviously it could also mean horsepower, etc., but not in this context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:52 PM
2

What problems do you think having a girlfriend will solve for you exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:44 PM
1

The famed Dr. David Burns, who developed and popularized Cognitive Behavioral Therapy says the biggest cause of therapeutic failure is when a therapist tries to help. Why? When you try to force help on someone, no matter how well intentioned it is, you inadvertently cause the other person to dig their heels in even deeper. It’s irrational behavior, but also a very human behavior. These guys obviously suffer emotionally tremendously, yet, they will fight tooth and nail to defend the very same tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:40 PM

Not my problem when there are plenty of experienced dentists and plumbers who prioritized getting experience rather than keep their hands clean.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 02:31 PM
1

First things first is to sit down and figure out exactly what it is that you want. What kind of woman you want and what you want her for. Not just looks, but values, qualities, how she treats you, sexual compatibility, etc. You have to very specific. Don’t say “she has to have a Master’s degree but if she’s a high school drop out that’s okay too”. Don’t say “I want a woman with long blond hair, but short haired brunette is okay too”. Be specific and stick to things that are important to you. Onc…
/r/seduction08/08/24 01:19 PM
1

The most effective advice is the one that you won’t like.
/r/seduction08/08/24 01:13 PM
1

Our species is surviving just fine. We are at the highest human population ever. In nature only about 10% of male animals get to procreate. The rest are food or cannon fodder. About time you accept your fate.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:09 PM
0

No, you wouldn’t have take me up on my offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 12:05 PM
4

There is more to life than posting victim stories on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:57 AM
0

You are a sad sad man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:56 AM
0

Yep, another “ive tried everything and nothing works” guy. If you try to not be so attached to your victim image you might actually see the world outside of your own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:56 AM

Lol? You guys are all more alike than you think. It’s all the same excuses over and over. You think you are unique snowflakes but all you have the exact same irrational thoughts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 11:17 AM
1

Interesting. You started wrong then inadvertently did something very right during the date only to fuck it up again. First, you pursued which you should never do. But on the date, because you took charge (not because you knew what you were doing but because the place was loud) and then you cut the date short instead of lingering around like every other loser hoping he will get some, you actually left her wanting more. However, when she reached back out to you, you again chased her and she turned…
/r/seduction08/08/24 11:15 AM
1

You will never succeed because you have too much inner resistance. You are a typical guy who believes putting on a nice, clean, expensive but well fitting shirt and getting a haircut automatically equals discarding your entire identity and personality.
/r/seduction08/08/24 11:06 AM
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Well, first things first. Your problem isn’t about the mechanics of flirting and dating, at least not yet. Your problem is the social brainwashing that you are not willing to give up yet. There are two aspects to the problem. See, everyone has 3 layers to their personality. The outer veneer, which is what everyone else sees. This is the carefully crafted public image, which is usually a conscious effort to portray yourself as the person you want to be. Then there is the inner layer, which only c…
/r/seduction08/08/24 11:05 AM
0

I can look at your profile and offer you many suggestions and you will won’t do any of them, because you subconsciously will resist any change. Your current model of the world has many advantages for you, such as woe is me, I’m so ugly, women are terrible, whaa, whaa. It means you never have to take responsibility, do the hard work of acknowledging your own role in your poor dating outcomes, actually have to do the hard work of changing your appearance or behavior and getting rid of your negativ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:53 AM
2

And what will change? I have tried all of this. Usually the conversation starts with: “I haven’t had sex in over 20 years. I have tried everything and have given up” “Ok, what have you tried exactly?” “I said EVERYTHING!” “Can be more specific?” “I already said I tried everything. I’m not getting into details.” “How do you expect us to help you if you can’t offer details?” “Who said I need help? I have already decided to off myself.” As nauseum
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:50 AM
1

I love my wife when she’s on her period…said no man ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:47 AM
1

Did you expect anything other than “YES BUT…” responses? Here is the thing. You can dispute every single claim that some PPD user makes, offer an irrefutable mountain of evidence to corroborate your argument and to completely disprove theirs, and you will still be met with “YES BUTs”. It’s just the nature of the beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:46 AM
-1

There is more to life than getting laid, you know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:38 AM

lol, so you really think you will undo decades of indoctrination, brainwashing and constant 24/7 self hate in a few posts on Reddit? These guys are not beyond help, but need to be motivated to seek this help first. You think their posts are cries for help? They aren’t. They are just a reflection of the self hate they feel for themselves every single minute of every single day projected outwards.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 10:37 AM
1

Bro, Mystery Method died like 15 years ago. Get a grip and get a life.
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:55 AM
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I’ve had sex with hundreds of women, but I still get upset at the middle aged chubby Ecuadorian who hinted at getting paid to give me a blow job.
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:54 AM
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You guys give way too much way too easily. Thats you cause of failure with women.
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:52 AM
2

Let me save you some heartbreak. Almost everything you read in pua books and here is completely wrong.
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:49 AM
2

Is it because your wife will beat you if she catches you calling a woman?
/r/seduction08/08/24 08:48 AM
1

I would never go to a dentist who has never worked on teeth before or call a plumber when I have a leak who has never worked on plumbing before.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:46 AM
1

Power is the ability to get another person to do something. There are power dynamics in every single relationship and believing there aren’t is simply naive and childish. I also don’t agree that women have more power in dating and relationships. The sad reality is men almost always give up all their power in exchange for puss.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/24 08:45 AM
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There is only one way to maintain power with women. Never let them land you. They may get close, but never let them fully have you.
/r/seduction01/08/24 03:37 AM
2

Accept yourself and drop the act.
/r/seduction01/08/24 03:36 AM
-1

Just don’t get shot
/r/seduction01/08/24 03:36 AM
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Well, you are doing a great job selling yourself to us here, I’m sure women would love a fat, short, low self esteem guy just as much as we do.
/r/seduction01/08/24 03:35 AM
1

Experiment with it. What do you have to lose.
/r/seduction31/07/24 05:34 PM
1

Is it now? I didn’t realize Psychology Today is a peer reviewed journal?!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:20 PM
1

So let me get this straight. You think the guy who wrote the is article is the modern embodiment of Casanova and he does really well with women? And that’s who you are willing to reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/24 05:06 PM
1

Bro, what do you think girls go out and drink for? Just be a cool attractive guy and they will find you. You don’t need to worry so much. Just open your eyes to see the signs.
/r/seduction31/07/24 04:59 PM
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Decide what you want. Make a list of likes and dislikes in women. Be specific about the things that really matter to you. Don’t be frivolous with your criteria, such as “her pussy must be this exact shade of fuscia”. You know what I mean. But before that decide what kind of relationship or lifestyle you want with women. Do you want a gf, FWB, have several women in a harem, are you looking for a wife? Of course, your criteria will also change depending on what type of relationship you are looking…
/r/seduction31/07/24 04:07 PM
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Nope! Music, career, travel, helping people.
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:22 PM
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You underestimate the extend to which men sabotage themselves. The reality is that most guys will have women interested in them to a certain extent. But they usually sabotage themselves in one of two ways: either not doing anything because of lack of confidence, shyness, being clueless OR they come on way too strong acting like a pursuer provider and forcing women to reject him. This idea of “if she likes you, you can’t do anything wrong” needs to die, because it is simply a lie.
/r/seduction31/07/24 03:21 PM
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Here is the problem with seduction and PUA advice. It’s all predicated on this notion that you, the man, are down here, a nobody, who is desperate to get sex AND the woman is up there, she’s hot, she has Chads throwing themselves at her, she’s hard to please, etc. And that basically you are below her and you have to work extremely hard to make her interested in you so she even gives you a chance to apply for the job of being her provider. This leads to overly/only focusing on what you think the …
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:38 PM
1

See how she responds
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:26 PM
1

Text her “your picture came up on my computer as ‘MILFS in your area want to chat’”
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:25 PM
1

lol. There is no cure for autism.
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:25 PM
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I don’t think approaching is your problem. Your problem is how you see yourself. If you see yourself as an old, creepy man with nothing going for him, then yeah, you probably won’t be successful approaching 25 year olds. Do this. Sit down somewhere quiet and close your eyes. Ask yourself “why am I so creepy?” Your mind will suddenly be flooded with hundreds of examples and reasons for why you are creepy. It’s a normal thing for the negative mind. Clear your head. Do this again, but this time ask…
/r/seduction31/07/24 02:24 PM
1

You are marrying the drug addicted junkie? Surely no drama there.
/r/seduction31/07/24 10:52 AM
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lol, you are rushing this too much. Remember, you matched on Tinder, so that means you need to spend at least 3-4 weeks texting with her every day, getting to know her, telling her your life story. You have to get her interested and get to know her before you have earned the right to ask her on a date. Remember, women are in control of the dating process and if you say the wrong thing, you are done. So be very afraid. Actually, it is best that you don’t meet in person for quite a while just to m…
/r/seduction31/07/24 10:48 AM
0

Any of the party islands.
/r/seduction31/07/24 10:46 AM
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Tell her “if you weren’t my boss, I’d totally spank you for saying this”
/r/seduction31/07/24 10:45 AM
4

Here are the best environments: Poorly lit multi level parking lots at night A dark alley behind a night club Waiting rooms of abortion clinics
/r/seduction31/07/24 10:44 AM
1

Somebody’s been reading Mysery Method again.
/r/seduction31/07/24 10:43 AM
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Here: https://youtube.com/shorts/IWfbNCccMqc?si=QDM3Pya5_A9Go61p
/r/seduction30/07/24 07:57 PM
1

If you catch them looking, go up to them and say “hey I noticed you notice me. I admire that both of you have great taste in men”.
/r/seduction30/07/24 04:47 PM

Cope
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 04:21 PM
2

I disagree that asking about this or that is leading. It’s not. If she disagrees with your decision, she will tell you. But asking “what do you wanna eat, where do you wanna go” is basically abdicating form the leadership role: you are asking her to make a decision. Just accept this and you will be much happier in your relationships. I don’t understand what’s the point of your resistance and rationalizations, other than sabotaging yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:54 PM
4

Your title doesn’t match the body of your post. Reading your title, I assumed that the post would be about telling a woman what you like in bed and communicate kinks, etc. But the body of your post is really about you not being able to take charge and leading and having to ask the woman for permission about everything. The last part is what turns women off. If a woman has to make all the decisions herself, than what does she need you for? She wants a man who will take charge and make decisions. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 03:18 PM
0

I could only wish my wife was a former porn star.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:53 PM
2

Why? You literally don’t know anything about this woman. You don’t know if she’s a bitch, a cunt, a thief, a gold digger, a cheater, if she likes manipulating men. Why is the woman the angel and man is the devil? You are just making stuff up in your head that has nothing to do with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:17 PM
2

Find a purpose or mission in life that is your main source of happiness and fulfillment and which takes up the majority of your time and headspace. Diminish the role of “women/sex/dating” from Crucial to my Happiness to Nice to Have if I have time.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:54 AM

Exactly! But in true PPD fashion everything can only be seen in black and white. You can only be one of two things: a desperate and needy pursuer who can’t have a moment of happiness unless he is in a relationship OR a guy who cuts off his dick and balls and goes to live in a cave for the rest of his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:51 AM

Counter argument to end all arguments: If you being needy, desperate and emotionally dependent on women to bring you happiness actually worked, don’t you think it would have worked by now?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:49 AM
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You are having very astute observations, but your hypothesis and attempt to interpret these phenomena are completely wrong. Men and women have the same emotional and physical needs. Both sexes want the same things, which is some love, fun and some good fucking. We just have different ways of manifesting these. What you perceive as hypergamy is actually women’s need to find someone who is stronger than them and who they can surrender to. Ultimately, they seek a partner that makes them feel safe a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:46 AM

I find it sad that you are limiting yourself to so few flavors of pussy. But that’s just me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 10:32 AM
3

I say “I’m not really into women with low self esteem”. They usually snap out of it and become even more worried about whether I like them.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:29 AM
1

No, please don’t turn into an average wimpy guy who is texting this girl every hour on the hour because you lack confidence that she’s into you. The more you telegraph your lack of confidence, your anxiety and your neediness, the more you will turn her off. Just because you are a woman, doesn’t all of a sudden change how female attraction works. Give her space, don’t chase. You already have a date to go see her show. Let her worry if you are going to show up and if she will see you again. You ar…
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:28 AM
8

I found the best wingman ever. Here is how I did it. I walked up to the bathroom mirror, I put my hand down my pants and checked that I do indeed have a set of balls. The guy who looked at me from the mirror agreed and he’s been my best friend and wingman ever since.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:24 AM
1

If you can’t be bothered to motivate yourself to get laid, why do you think anyone else should give two flying fucks?
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:21 AM
2

Fuck I’m old.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:21 AM
0

This is a symptom of a much bigger problem which is your obvious neediness and desperation that they can smell. If some chicks answering back is so FUCKING IMPORTANT to you, that’s a clear sign that you have your priorities wrong.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:20 AM
3

You wrote a post 3 years ago that you were at 500 approached. And it took you 500 more to figure out your way doesn’t work? What’s the last time you went out to just enjoy yourself and not to try and pickup girls? Be honest.
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:19 AM
1

Yes but yes but yes but
/r/seduction30/07/24 10:12 AM
2

You wanna measure penises next?
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:19 AM
2

No need to try and text and ask her out again. You already overplayed your card and showed too much interest. Basically, she had you in the palm of your hand. Understand that women only chase after men they cannot land no matter how much they try. They can have him for a little bit but it’s always fleeting. A guy who is lovey dovey after a single date and is texting her if she got home like the nice guy that he is, is just plain boring and unattractive.
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:17 AM
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I didn’t say stop interacting with women or expressing interest in them. I said stop trying to “get” them to like you, approve of you, go home with you, etc.
/r/seduction30/07/24 02:10 AM
5

I don’t escalate, I don’t try to put my hands on them, I don’t say anything to impress them. As a matter of fact, I’m always looking for ways to disqualify them. If you have ever talked to a woman and she gave you that “you got 10 seconds to say something interesting or funny or I’m turning my back on you” look, that’s what I’m talking about. It’s very non-chalant, like I’m ordering coffee.
/r/seduction30/07/24 01:30 AM

I don’t care about most women. I only care about the attractive ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 01:12 AM
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Start by giving up the idea that you need women/sex to be happy. Find other ways to get happiness and fulfillment, because if women are your only source you will be in a lot of trouble. Then start reframing hot women. Instead of looking at a hot chick and saying “omg she’s so hot, how can I have a chance with a girl like her, what can I do to get her”, start thinking “eh, there some chick over there, I might decide to give her a chance to talk to me later, but I will finish my cocktail first, wh…
/r/seduction30/07/24 12:47 AM
6

Oy vey it’s like pissing in the wind
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:43 AM

It’s my personal experience that if you want to have casual relationships, you need to be upfront and not present yourself as boyfriend or husband material. But you also have to be prepared to give women attention and care and be there for them even after the deed. This is not an excuse to be an asshole and never call a woman again. As I said, women are afraid of being taken advantage of by offering sex and getting nothing in return. The same way you wouldn’t like it if you took out a woman for …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:43 AM
5

It does because women are always looking for a man who is more powerful than they are. A man they can’t control.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/24 12:14 AM
0

That’s not how you do it. Firstly, John decides what he wants before he even leaves the house. If he just wants to get laid for the night, he is definitely not taking a woman on a date. He is either calling a FWB or going to a bar/club where he knows he can pick up a woman who wants some fun. If John has left the house having decided he wants to find a serious girlfriend and Janet or whatever her name is is too annoying and not a fit, he ends the date early and goes home.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 09:01 PM
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I stopped trying to “get” women. Not even a little bit. There is nothing in my interactions which says to them “I’m trying to get you or impress you”. I’m there to see if she can impress me or interest me at the very least.
/r/seduction29/07/24 07:28 PM

Men require two things: Someone who is attractive enough Someone who appears willing Women have 3 requirements: 1. Someone who likes and respects himself Someone who can confidently lead and take charge Someone who likes and respects women There is a 4th requirement for a woman to actually fall in love with the man but that’s icing on the cake. That requirement is that he is specifically interested in what she has to say. How, if you ever wonder why there are so few men that arouse women to the …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:23 PM
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There is no need to become a monk or self isolate at all. The idea isn’t to swear women off. The idea is to break the emotional dependency men have bought into. The more dependent a man is on a woman for his happiness and fulfillment, the more he gives away his power to her. That is the cause of all the unhappiness and anger actually. Men simply feel powerless. It is evident in the way they talk about dating dynamics. They always talk about having to approach, having to organize dates, feeling s…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:21 PM
1

Preaching to the choir brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:14 PM

That’s also bs. Women are afraid of being taken advantage of, hence why so many of them have silly commitment requirements. Go to a singles bar and shout from the top of your lungs “I will commit absolutely and for the rest of my life to the first woman who will have me” and see how many takers you will have. Women are totally open to having casual sex as long as it doesn’t cost them anything (in reputation, being labeled as a slut, etc). But since most men buy into the bullshit of labeling a wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:13 PM

If that were true, human population wouldn’t be nearing 8 billion. We probably wouldn’t have survived for even a hundred years as a species. Yet, here we are nearly a million years later after hominids appeared on the evolutionary stage. You are completely misinterpreting the phenomenon you are observing and ascribing the wrong explanation to it. Just like you have certain requirements to get aroused enough to engage in intercourse, ie get an erection and maintain it long enough, women have cert…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:06 PM
1

You may want to get your pussy/hormones checked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 07:00 PM
5

I will play a tiny little violin for you 🎻 whak whaa
/r/seduction29/07/24 06:33 PM
4

Who cares what they think. You are not nearly worried enough about yourself and what you want. Stop worrying about what women are thinking.
/r/seduction29/07/24 06:32 PM
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When you put two inherently passive people together, what do you think is going to happen?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 06:12 PM
1

Exactly. The whole escalation idea is super flawed. It works from the perspective that the man is chasing the woman trying to pressure her into having sex. You don’t want that. You want them chasing you. And they can’t chase you if you are a creepy pursuer.
/r/seduction29/07/24 06:11 PM
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Yes, of course the incel and virgin who has never spoken to a woman knows everything about how to get women. I mean it totally makes sense. I’m pretty sure I can navigate a spaceship into orbit myself although I can barely even drive a car.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 04:25 PM
2

Two things that are holding you back. You are focused on getting them to your place after a date. In other words, your end goal is sex and they are just means to an end. Thats a huge turn off for women. You need to stop pursing them, doing so much touching and escalating and making out. With women, less is more. Focus on getting to know them and figuring out if they are the type of person who will contribute something positive to your life or not. When you start evaluating them to see if they ar…
/r/seduction29/07/24 04:23 PM
2

No, the ore sexual you get is not the better. I’m not saying that you have to be asexual and platonic, but it’s more about using sexuality to dangle in front of her like those little lasers that people use to keep cats entertained. The cat is only entertained when she can’t catch the laser/toy. So you may say stuff like “I really enjoy this type of sex or this kink” and then say “but I’ve found most women can’t really handle it or are not that good in bed”. You are basically challenging her to p…
/r/seduction29/07/24 03:39 PM
9

No man, you gave her a chance. Stop being so nice and over accommodating with these women. You don’t owe them any of that.
/r/seduction29/07/24 03:22 PM
4

Okay, so I need you to take a step back first before we diagnose the problem. First of all, you need to decide what it is that you want. Are you looking for another gf, FWB, ons? What exactly are you dating these girls for? If you don’t know, then you are essentially putting them in the driving seat, because they will be leading the interaction. Second, decide what kind of woman you want. What her qualities will be, what she looks like, does she have a job, education, how she treats you, how she…
/r/seduction29/07/24 03:19 PM
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Women would go for way more casual sex with men if it don’t cost them anything. But they are surrounded by men (and women) screaming at them that they are allowed an X amount of partners before they are considered expired goods and used up hoes. That number is usually below 10 by the time they are 30. So women find ways around that that you would never know about because you are not one of those guys. You only see the “official” numbers. Kind of like the government unemployment numbers which are…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:51 PM
0

Romance is really for the man. We enjoy it. It’s not for the woman perse. Like, when we buy you sexy lingerie, it’s not for you. It’s for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:48 PM
0

Hasn’t been my experience at all, but I can see why it has been your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:48 PM
3

Rarely if ever? Not in my reality. Women want sex as much as men, but they have more social conditioning to get over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:42 PM
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You know what’s funny? People ONLY want what they CAN’T get and NEVER want what they CAN get. A woman who is seeing a guy who is being non-committal or super causal, typically tries to pressure the guy until he he dumps her. Or if he is a bit desperate and doesn’t have options himself, maybe he ends up relenting and entering a relationship/marriage he didn’t really want in the first place resulting in misery on both sides. The best way to play it with a person who is not that interested in commi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:40 PM
0

Who gives a fuck. If you want to be the pursuer and have zero power, then by all means, humor them.
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:49 AM
3

You are doing it all wrong. You don’t have to approach right away and please don’t linger around like a creep. If you love with purpose and direction you will be perceived as more attractive. The most pathetic thing in the world is a man without a purpose, who just hangs out at the corner trying to chat up girls.
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:48 AM
2

Are you fucking retarded?
/r/seduction29/07/24 10:41 AM
0

Not at all. Attractiveness is not static at all. Especially in men. You have no idea how much your inner mindset makes a difference. I know guys here refuse to believe it, mostly because they don’t actually have much if any dating or sexual experience and are just making up theories about their own lack of success. Being discerning and having high standards does make one more attractive because they become harder to get. This is mating 101, cummon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:37 AM
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Evolutionary psychology is not a hard science. It’s speculation and a lot of hypothesizing but not much in the way of having real, tangible evidence. That’s why some people say they don’t believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 10:35 AM
14

The one who needs/wants least has all the power. When you are really interested in a girl, you are communicating your need/want for her to like you, validate your respond to you thoughtfully, etc. The more you telegraph that you want to get something from her, the more she treats like you treat those girls you are not interested in. The secret of course is to treat the women you are super interested in just like the ones you are barely interested in.
/r/seduction29/07/24 02:50 AM
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Well, your first mistake is trying to have conversations with women on the apps. That’s just stupid. They matched, they are interested. Just skip the BS and meet them in person so you can vet them.
/r/seduction29/07/24 02:48 AM
1

What is your end goal here?
/r/seduction29/07/24 02:46 AM
1

Women just want you to stop being a creepy desperate pursuer. Spend that energy on pursuing a purpose in life. Jerk off. Jerk off some more. Stop making women so fucking all important in your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/24 02:19 AM
0

A rule of thumb: NEVER go on a date that a woman has dropped hints about, unless you have been dating for a while. If a woman says in her profile “feed me sushiiii”, the last place I’d take her is sushi. That’s because you want to set the frame that you do whatever the fuck you want to do and she is going out with you, not the other way around. If you do what she wants to do, she’s not seeing it as “oh so cute”, she is actually interpreting this as “this guy is gonna kiss my ass, let’s see how m…
/r/seduction28/07/24 10:53 PM
1

I totally suffer from this. Basically too good looking to get laid.
/r/seduction28/07/24 10:49 PM
0

Well, stop opening your mouth.
/r/seduction28/07/24 10:48 PM
1

It IS how women approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:08 PM
2

lol women aren’t friendly to random guys. And if you can’t distinguish friendly from flirty, that’s on you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 05:08 PM
-3

Again, you are just afraid and don’t want to risk rejection. You want the woman to risk rejection which is abdicating from your duties. If the woman has to be jury the man and the woman in the relationship, then why does she need you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:46 PM
-3

Women approach all the time, just not in the “hey baby wanna get out of here” way most men would like. But they look at you, smile, hover around, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:32 PM
3

lol sure that happens
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:30 PM
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Asking women to approach men is just a symptom of a much bigger problem. And that problem is FEAR. No woman can be attracted to a man who is afraid of her.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:11 PM
-4

Have you tried not being a creepy child molester?
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:30 PM
1

Better self implies that you are no good as you are.
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:28 PM
2

The reason men say “just be yourself” is bad advice is because they don’t actually like who they are. As a matter of fact women are actually trying to tell them with this advice that they can see a cool guy beneath the veneer they are putting on. Under the insecurities and desperately trying to hide your flaws and trying to appear like the person you want to be as opposed to the one you are, there is actually a cool guy who is not getting enough credit who is often more powerful than any mask yo…
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:28 PM
1

Dude, it’s summer. The truly beautiful women are at rooftop bars and well lit lounges. Leave the clubs for the bridge and tunnel Jersey Shore crowd. You can’t even have a fucking conversation in clubs. You have to rely on caveman game.
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:21 PM
7

I think this is bullshit. You need to decide what you want before you even leave the house. Here is an exercise for you: Sit down and write what you want and what kind of woman you want. By what you want, I mean do you want a ons, FWB, a harem, a loyal girlfriend, etc. You will likely have different criteria for these categories. Then write down what is the exact woman you want. Physical attributes, qualities, values, how she is going to treat you, what education she has, what type of hobbies or…
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:19 PM
1

It is infinitely more important to BEHAVE like a high status man THAN to actually be one in the eyes of society. Women are attracted to a man’s behavior (which includes how he treats his appearance btw) and make judgments fast based on that, the same way a man makes quick judgments by looking at a woman’s breast size, hip to waist ratio and facial attractiveness to determine if she is genetically healthy to produce a healthy baby. We do not ask women for a dna and medical tests before we decide …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 12:11 PM
-5

Same thing. “People pleaser = someone afraid of confrontation or upsetting others” including standing up for yourself. You guys are really trying too hard to use semantics to escape the very obvious facts that you have to accept. That your strategy of being a non confrontation, doesn’t rock the boat nice guy is just not successful at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 03:41 AM
-5

Because nice guy is literally a synonym for doormat and pushover.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/24 02:33 AM
3

I mean it’s a dial not a on-off switch. You need to start very slowly with expressing some interest. But it’s like testing the waters. Trying to see is this woman interesting and worth talking to. Most men just jump head first into the shallow end of the pool. The questions is, how does he know he wants her? Just because she has a cute face or a nice pair of tits? That’s why women accuse men of objectifying them. Because men go googoo gaga without knowing anything about the woman which makes the…
/r/seduction28/07/24 02:08 AM
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Look, here is the problem with pickup stuff and “game”. The whole concept, if you think about it, is built on the idea that the woman is up there, she’s hot, she gets all kinds of men throwing themselves at her, she is utterly uninterested in men UNLESS they can do something spectacular to gain her interest. On the other side is the man, he is down here, the man is a nobody, he desires women and sex more than air itself, so he must do something spectacular and “game” the woman so she starts seei…
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:21 AM
1

Exactly. He is way too gentle and nice sounding. Like what woman will want to be tied up and spanked by a guy with that voice.
/r/seduction28/07/24 12:08 AM
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The biggest cause of dating/romantic failure with women is men who come on too strong and try to speed run the relationship before she gets there. You are just a typical horndog who can’t control himself. Understand, women are not like men, you can’t just say “hey hot stuff, let’s go to my place and fuck”. Will work wonders in a gay bar, but women just don’t work like that. You have to ignore them and pull back and let them earn your attraction and interest. If they can get you to act like a bra…
/r/seduction27/07/24 10:46 PM
1

Alexis lost weight? wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:01 PM
3

BMI: 26.5, bf 12-13%
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 09:59 PM
1

No. Test her a day before the date and say: “change of plans. Need some down time, so why don’t you bring a bottle of wine instead and I will get take out. My address is ……”
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:56 PM
7

Hold on? She came over with wine and all waxed and not even wearing a bra and all you did was talk and then you are thinking SHE’s the one who is rejecting you? My niqqa ru stupid?
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:55 PM
2

This guy sounds like he needs some testosterone with that tiny little whiny voice. No wonder chicks don’t wanna fuck him.
/r/seduction27/07/24 08:25 PM
3

Both things can be true.
/r/seduction27/07/24 07:55 PM
5

If the man is putting in the lions share of starting the relationship, he is already the pursuer. You can’t just flip those role midway through the relationship. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:40 PM
3

You sound naive and silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:39 PM
1

Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 07:24 PM
0

Hahaha, not in my version of reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:22 PM

While most attractive women always have some orbiter/best friend/thirsty Tinder date, I can tell you from personal experience that there are a ton of lonely single women out there. They just hide it much better than men do. Also, socially it is way more embarrassing for a woman to be labeled as single. Women’s value is literally judged by the social status of the man she can get to provide her security. So admitting she is single and doesn’t have a high status man (in the eyes of society) to gua…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:21 PM
1

This is just the old Reacher and Settler saying. It’s true. In a relationship of any kind one person is always chasing the other slightly more. I find that the one who needs the least, has all the power. When I become utterly unafraid of losing a woman, I started having all the power in my relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 06:17 PM
1

It’s how I met my wife and how I’ve been dating for years before that. Women also constantly hit on me, and I just give them a look of “okay, you are good looking what else?”, and they get working so hard to try and impress me. It’s kind of cute actually. See, my secret super power is that I don’t give a fuck if I get laid or not. I actually could live just fine and never have sex again if I needed to. That’s why I have the luxury of focusing exclusively on what I want and not trying to figure o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:25 PM
1

The funny thing is that the lower their standards/requirements are, the more unattractive they make themselves in the eyes of women. The same way that men don’t respect “sluts”, because they think this is a woman who throws herself at ANY man, women don’t respect a man who throws himself at any woman. The difference is that the sluts at gets sex. The simp just gets….nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 05:17 PM
5

Don’t read only the stories about guys sleeping with mid Thai hookers. Read about the ones who get married or have a LTR and get scammed out of their money while the chick was banging her local boyfriend. There is no substitute for being a man. There is even a recent thread about dating Russian women and basically everyone said don’t do it, you have to be the man and always be in control if you want to be with a Russian woman. Well, guess what, you have to be the man and always be in control no …
/r/seduction27/07/24 04:01 PM
2

True! This month’s adderall prescription pills are multicolored, but they are usually blue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 03:58 PM
4

Women are very adaptive. If you treat them like their shit don’t stink, they will treat you like a peasant. If you adopt the attitude that you are evaluating her to see if she is worthy of your time, she will become the simp trying to prove herself to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 01:56 PM
2

Well yeah! I mean you are basically paying an escort at this point, and let’s be honest. You can get a Russian escort anywhere without having to get on a fucking plane
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:35 PM
1

No man. You are wrong! If he doesn’t text her constantly to remind her that he exists, she will instantly forget about him and jump on the first Chad’s dick. He needs to constantly create attraction and keep her laughing and entertain her. All the time. That’s should be his full time job. /s
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:33 PM
1

https://youtu.be/daPXnxOZ28s?si=g8BcYZ-3a9APYwAV
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:23 PM
4

That’s just a product of the environment. When they grow up eating pasta with ketchup and sharing a bathroom and kit came with another family, their focus in life becomes security. Anything to escape the hellhole that is Russia or any other post commie country. At the same time, I grew up in EE and know that women will still bang the badboy that nobody else know me about while she is officially going out with the local mafia guy.
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:21 PM
10

You should actually visit the passport bro sub. It’s an exercise in sadness. It is super clear why these guys are not successful in the West.
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:16 PM
2

I understand the difference very well because I was doing this before you were even born. It all depends on the person you are, not on what you are doing. You can literally just walk around and sit across a woman and she will be attracted to you without as much as saying a word to her…if you are the right person and give off the right energy. I can only imagine that you are wondering aimlessly through parks and streets looking for women by themselves that you can approach and ask for their Insta…
/r/seduction27/07/24 01:07 PM
3

It’s not about what you do but about who you are. An opener is simply a method for initiating the interaction.
/r/seduction27/07/24 12:35 PM
1

Do you want to fuck this girl for you? Are you stupid?
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:10 AM
4

It means let’s fuck. Not interested. Fuck.
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:08 AM
1

I think way more men suffer delusions of inadequacy than delusions of grandeur.
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:04 AM
3

If she touches you on the arm, she’s interested. If she touches your leg, she wants to fuck you.
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:00 AM
-16

If she’s a girl she’s attracted to me.
/r/seduction27/07/24 10:57 AM
7

You don’t need to do any of that. There is no law that requires you to pay for dates or even go out on dates to begin with.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:56 AM
6

There are several problems with your elaborate analogy. First of all, you speak as if this is the reality for all men. It’s not! That’s perhaps your reality. If this is the experience you are getting, but other men are not, perhaps it is you who has to change his approach. Lastly, you assume that the woman is the interviewer and the guy is the interviewee. That has not been my experience. I’m the one who interviews and screens women. They are the ones applying for the job of being my girlfriend …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/24 10:24 AM

It’s a choice that person made. Oh, I forgot in TRP narrative the man is ALWAYS the victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 11:47 PM

At the same time those men who are so judgmental don’t want to be judged for being virgins and total losers in high school. Or not developing any social skills until their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:20 PM

I wonder if JD Vance is a poster on PPD?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:18 PM

You are honestly the weirdest stalker I’ve ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 10:14 PM

But if the man actually grows a pair of balls and starts making decisions, then they won’t have any reason to complain and post rage bait on PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 08:37 PM
-1

Womp womp.
/r/seduction26/07/24 08:34 PM
2

That’s not an invitation to jump head first into emotional attachment. Just admit that you are to blame. Transferring the blame over to her is denying yourself learning an important lesson.
/r/seduction26/07/24 06:22 PM
21

Here is analogy that might make sense to you. It’s like a guy who gets invited to a party, but he hasn’t eaten all day, or maybe he doesn’t get invited to many parties. So he shows up, he eats all the snacks and food because he didn’t eat at home, then proceeds to get drunk and make a fool of himself. The guys is probably thinking “well, there was free food and booze at the party? And the host said to help myself, what did I do wrong?” But to any outside observer it is pretty clear that this guy…
/r/seduction26/07/24 06:20 PM
2

If you knew anything about the theory of genetic diversity, you’d know that your hypothesis is utter BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:02 PM
4

Birth rates are falling, humanity’s population is projected to peak in about 25 years and then start decreasing. These are all good news for our planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 06:01 PM
0

Men think they have to lie because they have been brainwashed to think women don’t like sex and they have to trick them into having sex with them. And that if they were to reveal their actual intentions, the would get rejected. It’s an unfounded fear of course, because way more women are interested in casual sex as long as they don’t feel judged or feel like it’s costing them something (aka men calling them expired goods with high n-count just because they decided to have some fun).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 04:02 PM
1

How did she play you? You can’t even take accountability for your own mistakes and causing the rejection.
/r/seduction26/07/24 03:59 PM
4

Absolutely not. It’s just a fluke. Everyone knows that women ONLY get obsessed with guys who cater to their every whim, are always available, text them every day for hours on end.
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:59 PM
1

Expecting a fancy date is the female equivalent of a man who expects sex without as much as getting to know you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:53 PM
4

You don’t see it because OP pulled it out of his own ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/24 02:38 PM
1

Don’t use crutches.
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:08 PM
3

This is probably the biggest cause of dating failures for men. They get emotionally attached/invested very fast, especially if you’ve lacked success with women. All you need is some pretty girl to bat her eyes at you and you can’t stop thinking about her. This is a much deeper issue than just not caring. You are probably telling yourself deep down that you need women in order to be happy and that if you don’t have a woman that somehow makes you into a loser. I did the exact same thing you did fo…
/r/seduction26/07/24 02:07 PM
1

Here is a little secret. If you tell a woman you are not the marrying kind and you are not even the boyfriend kind, they will fuck you fast. Because they don’t have to justify to anyone that the guy they are dating is a “catch” in the eyes of society, you can get away with anything.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:56 PM
3

Well, it sounds like you are waiting for women to rip their clothes off and jump on your cock out of nowhere. What exactly are you doing to facilitate having sex?
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:54 PM
0

You should be texting her every day. There shouldn’t be an hour that goes by that she doesn’t hear from you. You have to understand, women are surrounded by Chads, so if you are not constantly entertaining her and displaying high value, she will instantly forget about you and jump on the first Chad’s cock that she comes across. So the only way to prevent this is to be a pathetic pursuer who has no life or self respect.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:52 PM
3

If she comes up to you tell her: “I don’t understand why you are coming over to say hi to me. I find it very rude that you just ghosted me and I am someone for whom manners are extremely important. Now run along.“ But then I see you said “I still want her”, which shows me that you have an utter and complete lack of respect for yourself and your time. In which case, keep chasing that pussy like it’s made of diamonds.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:50 PM
1

Going out to pickup women is about the worst reason to go out.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:47 PM
3

Our emotions are the result of how we think about ourselves, the world and other people. When our thoughts are irrational or distorted, usually we end up feeling depressed (low self esteem), self hating, anxious, insecure, etc. The only effective way of changing this, at least in my experience and opinion, is cognitive behavioral therapy. CBT is technically talk therapy, because you have to talk about your negative thoughts and then learn to dispute them. But it’s not sitting there on a couch an…
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:44 PM
0

Time to buy a buttplug and lots of lube.
/r/seduction26/07/24 01:39 PM
0

Explaining how I see the world will take too much time to write out. But it begins with being completely 100% unconditionally accepting of yourself. If you reject any part of yourself internally, women tend to pick up on that and reject you.
/r/seduction26/07/24 12:51 AM
1

Ok, I see. Give the Feeling Great app a try. It’s the new and better CBt and it actually addresses the problem with outcome resistance - basically why you feel resentful of trying to change. Your subconscious is resisting it because there are actually a ton of advantages to having low self esteem.
/r/seduction25/07/24 11:41 PM
3

I have one tattoo on my body, but nobody sees it. It’s a tattoo of a black hole 🕳️ that happens to be right between my butt cheeks.
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:41 PM
1

Did we run out of things to be outraged about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:28 PM
0

I love how she frames this as “you have to make it worth my time”. I mean, anyone asking you out is doing YOU a favor, you are the charity case here honey. Also, funny, “don’t expect me drink and then drive myself”, while recording a fucking TikTok while driving.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:27 PM
1

But their existence defeats your hypothesis/claim. Or is this one of those: “well, of course there are a number of exceptions to my extremely rigid claim which I’m trying to pass for an immutable law of the universe”?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 09:57 PM
1

Lol
/r/seduction25/07/24 08:52 PM
29

I have 10 years on you actually and have done this for a very long time. I’m married now, but I flirt harmlessly with women here and there and I feel would be like taking candy from a kid if I actually wanted anything more. Here is my assessment. Yes, things were a bit more innocent back then. There have always been creeps and weirdos, so women were less guarded. Then the whole pickup artist craze went out of hand and now every single woman on Earth knows about the crazy girlfriend opener. So do…
/r/seduction25/07/24 07:50 PM
2

So who is fucking all these women? You guys are just parroting the crap from all the incel/black pill circles that the same 5 guys are fucking all chicks and somehow they are all good with that. Simultaneously women have all the choice in the world but only 5 guys in the entire universe are actually good enough for them (in your worldview). So how the fuck do they have all the choice in the world if only 5 guys can supposedly arouse them enough to want to have sex?
/r/seduction25/07/24 07:39 PM
1

So I don’t quite understand - do you feel you have low self-esteem and if you do, does it affect you negatively? You will know it affects you negatively if you are one of the guys who is constantly approaching but is striking out more often than not. Or if you only seem to get low quality women. Etc. Or women just don’t seem to respond very positively to you. In any case, I’d recommend the Feeling Great app that just came out on the iPhone store. It is developed by Dr David Burns, the guy who po…
/r/seduction25/07/24 07:34 PM
-2

Okay, so they go through ton of guys? Then why are you all guys here trying to figure out how to get them? Why don’t you just go and simp harder than the next guy?
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:19 PM
-2

You do understand that SIMP and ATTRACTIVE cannot possibly coexist, right? Wait a second, I though you are like the worlds awesomest dating coach? You don’t even know the fucking basics! You have the exact same thoughts as all the incel subs!
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:18 PM
-1

So if all these chicks were getting their dream Chad, 6’5” green eyes and trust fund; how the fuck are there enough 6’5” green eyed chads to go around for all of them?
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:15 PM
-3

If all you were able to score were fatties and frumpy, would you think you are James Dean or something?
/r/seduction25/07/24 06:14 PM
-5

This makes zero sense. You just said that there are armies of men simping for them, yet I have yet to meet a woman who loves dating simps and has fallen for one.
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:30 PM
8

Funny, whenever I go to any women specific subs and see threads about dating, women are complaining about the exact same things men are complaining about. Nobody talks to them, nobody makes moves, ghosting, etc.
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:26 PM
7

Yep, it’s women and totally not you.
/r/seduction25/07/24 05:25 PM
2

Because men have been fed the idea that only women can be the source of their happiness. It doesn’t even occur to them that making something external the source of your happiness is just about the dumbest idea you can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:24 PM
2

Are serial killers on death role successful in the eyes of society? Did they win at capitalism? How come they have groupies who want to marry them and have their children?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 05:23 PM
-1

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 03:25 PM
0

I’m traumatized
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:43 PM
0

Ah, sir, this is a shrimp!
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:40 PM
4

Hey buddy, speak for yourself okay. For one I like to whip out my 🍤
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:36 PM
2

She is saying this to A. Look cool in your eyes and to make you think she is in demand and B. To give you a hint that you should make a fucking move already. You getting butthurt over this shows what an excuser you are. If she brings this up again, you say something like this: “heh, the only guy you will be seeing is THIS guy right here, unless, you like to be in bed with the lights off of course!” If you do that, she will realize she has a real man at her hands and not a sensitive little boy wh…
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:35 PM
10

I will let you know what is the biggest secret of these type of guys. It sounds simple, but can be difficult to implement. However, if you can implement it, it doesn’t matter if you are a regular guy or an unemployed guy or super successful in your career, you will be able to get women easily. The secret of hobosexual guys is that they DO NOT FEEL BAD/ASHAMED about their situation. They do not feel bad about any aspect of their life or personality. The opposite of this is a guy who actually feel…
/r/seduction25/07/24 02:32 PM
2

NP. Remember, the other key thing is to actually not focus on getting these girls. Focus on what you want besides looks and aesthetic. “5’5-5’5” goth girl with big titties” is a good requirement, but think beyond that. How do you want her to treat you, what kind of education does she have, is she bisexual, are you looking for gf material or FWB material. Become crystal clear on what you want instead of worrying about what she wants you to be, which you can’t possibly know. When you become the gu…
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:46 PM
0

The question was “what do men want women to do when they get old.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 01:00 PM
2

So I wasn’t actually asking a question, it was a statement. “What do you think?” is the question least asked of attractive women. Thats your clue there. Express interest in what they think. They are showing you how they want to be treated with the way they dress and groom. They are not like the “other girls”. They are alternative, they are unique. They are not some plastic Barbie. They don’t listen to commercial music, maaaaan. So leverage that, be curious about their mind and what they think ab…
/r/seduction25/07/24 01:00 PM
1

Well, yes of course! These are usually two very different guys! The problem with the gentleman is that he is the one being auditioned for the male lead in her movie. She can still decide that she likes him “only as a friend”.
/r/seduction25/07/24 12:57 PM
5

That’s because you are looking at them like they are special. They are not. They just see themselves as deep and not superficial, so they want someone who will appreciate them for who they are on the inside (I appreciate the inside of their pussy). Don’t approach like a horny sexual pest. Approach with curiosity. What do you think is the question least asked of good looking women.
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:54 AM
2

The difficulty with very good looking women is the chemical reactions that go off in your body. You see a hot woman, you want her to think of you as cool and impress her, so the adrenaline kicks in, the neediness become a biochemical fact, the neediness becomes a biochemical addiction. By then, it’s too late, as you end up behaving as you are below her. One way to deal with this is to find a way to interact with lots of good looking women in a total non-sexual manner. The more you think about th…
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:52 AM
1

You are already doing this wrong.
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:19 AM
1

What’s so different about them?
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:18 AM
0

Just FYI, Mystery was never the biggest pua. He just happened to be the most famous because he dressed like a clown and spoke authoritatively to a bunch of virgins, although he himself barely had any success with women. And he tried killing himself twice over a woman. Just Google him now and see what he looks like and ask yourself if that looks like the face of someone happy and content with life.
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:17 AM
1

Isn’t that literally the biggest cause of failure with women? I was thinking of writing a post about the relentless neediness and pursuing behavior I see on this sub all the time.
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:15 AM
15

Well, that’s generally a retarded approach anyway.
/r/seduction25/07/24 10:12 AM
1

Stop discouraging young women from dating older men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/24 10:00 AM

Congratulations! You are an enlightened woman. Although, I’d wager you are in the minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 09:36 AM
6

No, being late bloomer doesn’t mean permanent damage. However, thinking that it means permanent damage will make it true.
/r/seduction22/07/24 02:54 AM
4

I know how you feel sister. I have several female orbiters who know they will never get a chance to smell my dick. But I like keeping them around just in case something happens to my wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/24 01:56 AM
1

I’ve never even seen you comment….
/r/seduction22/07/24 01:42 AM
1

On the contrary, you don’t want to be the guy who is trying to get her. You are still wondering how to get these girls, how to make them interested. But by virtue of trying to get them interested, you are presupposing that they are not interested because you are not sexy and attractive. So right off the bat, you are approaching as if you have to overcompensate for some major hurdle or flaw. But when you do this, you are basically communicating to a woman “I’m not sexy and attractive, so I have t…
/r/seduction22/07/24 12:21 AM
2

Ask yourself, if you had a friend who looked exactly like you, had the exact same history and experiences as you the exact same thoughts and feelings and aspirations, but his name was Bob instead of whatever your name is. Would you talk to him the same way you are talking to yourself just now? Would you tell him “hey bro, you are kind of short, you are a minority and quite honestly not sure why any girl will want you. Plus you are kind of coming across as desperate.” Is this something you’d say …
/r/seduction22/07/24 12:16 AM
1

Brent Smith Mastering Indifference
/r/seduction22/07/24 12:14 AM
2

Well, if you are getting rejected you shouldn’t want to keep your current inner game, because it’s obviously shit. Rejection is just a symptom my friend. Go out and try this instead. Instead of approaching a woman because you want to success, approach her with the goal of getting rejected. How will your approach change if instead of wanting to succeed, you actually want to get rejected?
/r/seduction22/07/24 12:13 AM
13

Here is what you do. Head over to the nearest department store like Bloomingdale’s. Go to the men’s section and pray to god it has some hot young sales clerk there. If not, there is probably a gay guy which is your second best choice. Go up to them and say: “hi, so I need some help finding clothes for me. To tell you the truth, I’m here in Miami on vacation and also hoping to take a vacation from myself as well. I’m kind of shy and not very outgoing back home, but coming here seeing everyone hav…
/r/seduction22/07/24 12:10 AM

Hot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:58 PM
-1

Of course, it’s not EVERY woman but the vast majority of them, yes. You know the world isn’t only Western countries .
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:03 PM

Is it going to be fashioned after you?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 11:02 PM
6

If all women came out tomorrow and told you that the men they most desire in the world are men who never touch their peepee and never look at porn and that they would be willing to lay with any man who can prove that he’s gone for at least 2 years without masturbating and watching porn, would you agree to do it? Would you agree to abstain?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:45 PM
8

This ^ men have actually cucked themselves by inflating the value of pussy and chastity to the point that women can name their price. And now men are angry that women are charging for something they never wanted to charge for, but rather, just wanted to use for fun. I’d be hard pressed to find any man who is willing to charge for his dick, yet he constantly has fun with it (whether by himself or with a partner).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:41 PM
-4

Because as a man you have been socialized to be responsible for your own security. Women are socialized to find a man who will take over the responsibility for providing their security from daddy. Daddy defacto becomes hubby when a woman gets hitched.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 10:37 PM

What if I told you that reality is an illusion, albeit a very persistent one?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:35 PM
2

Women have an evolutionary predisposition to go for status, not SOCIAL status. SOCIAL status is artificially invented as a result of an arbitrary value system that enough people have bought into. I will give you an example. I’m the USA, American football players typically enjoy high status. Many women flock to them and there are conniving women who try to baby trap dumb jocks, who just got multimillion dollar contracts with the NFL. But if these football players were to go to Europe or Asia, whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 09:34 PM

No, I get it. You get satisfaction out of trying to figure out these problems, because if they were solved for you, you’d have all the time in the world and wouldn’t know what to do about it. Maybe you’d have to go and talk to some women IRL?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:21 PM
1

Actually if you think about it, it’s because men have made wealth a measuring stick of one’s value on society. It’s an idea passed down from generation to generation, fathers telling their sons “go and become a doctor or a lawyer, so you will be respected”, and mothers telling the with daughters “if you are going to be with a man at least make sure he’s a lawyer or a doctor so he can take care of you”… So now everyone is obsessed with wealth and social status as a measuring stick of a male’s val…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:07 PM

It’s starts with face. Then the ass. Then Bj skills. Then everything else.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 08:00 PM

That’s kind of what you get for listening to society and especially to women. Or try to think about what they are thinking. Thats why David X rule #1 is: who cares what they say or think. It’s not derogatory.It’s not about women being stupid or having nothing worthwhile to say. It’s just that when you are thinking about what they are thinking, you are almost 100% always wrong. And if you keep listening to what they are saying, you will go crazy because almost 100% of what comes out of their mout…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/24 07:59 PM
2

Oneitis is due to a lot of bad social programming. See, may thousands of years ago, society figured out that men’s natural high sex drive can be harnessed to make men work, create value and scale new peaks. And by pushing their own success, they also push society forward. And how do you get young boys to work hard and achieve instead of being distracted by young hot girls and getting them pregnant? Well, you teach them that they are worthless UNLESS they go out and work hard, create value and sc…
/r/seduction21/07/24 07:19 PM
2

Great! Now learn this move: https://youtu.be/twb3d8MiTrs?si=gzmc3rpEeejC0Y7f
/r/seduction21/07/24 07:09 PM
1

You didn’t really get anything that I was saying. Just practice having normal conversations then. Just be normal. Don’t talk about her ass, tits, touch their hands. Just be a normal guy. Dare to be normal?
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:25 PM
1

Nah he followed rule 7.1A, rule 5.6H, then perfectly executed a “reverse transactional de-negging”, laid out the “non-chalant guy at the bar” routine, topped it off with Mystery’s “make out with the gay guy in the group” routine, just to make sure he flies under the radar and then ended it with executing step 17.8.99 C. Perfect!
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:19 PM
2

High heels, short skirt, nice top if you have assets to show off. Red lips, eye lashes, hair done up. When you go to a bar, stand with your back towards the bar and scan the crowd until you catch a cute guys eye. From there, just be inviting and friendly. Try eye fucking him to see how he reacts.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:15 PM
2

You sound incredibly needy and attached to the outcome, which is causing all your failures. You even rate your nights out based on whether you made out with a girl. I wish there was a quick way to show you just how fucking loser this all sounds. Understand that the number one mistake men make over and over and over is being too overeager and trying to speed run every interaction with a woman because they think it will be their last chance of getting laid ever. It comes across like that one guy w…
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:12 PM
19

I’ve found that being more muscular is very intimidating to a lot of women. So my pool has actually narrowed down a lot but the quality has increased tremendously.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:08 PM
2

Interesting discussion. There was an old, legendary guy in the old seduction forums called Rick H. and one of his rules was “no good deed goes unpunished”. Basically, avoid being overly nice and accommodating with women, going out of your way to do things for them in the hopes of getting some. That includes not buying dinners, taking her out to fancy places, etc., without her reciprocation at all. Now, if a girl says “omg, OP, I’m just a weak silly woman and I have no idea how to fix this squeak…
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:07 PM
1

They are clowns actually.
/r/seduction21/07/24 12:56 PM
2

Yep, instead of trying to be Mr Smooth Casanova, like, “hey girl, I saw you from over there and I thought I’d kick my own ass if I didn’t come over and tell you how fiiiiione you look”, blah blah blah, just shoot the shit. Something like “what’s up, how’s your Saturday night going”. Or make some situational comment “damn, it’s fucking dead in this place, so you better be fun and entertaining…hahaha, just kidding”. You can try some mental tricks like pretend you are picking up a girl for your fri…
/r/seduction21/07/24 12:46 PM
-3

lol, look at the sub you are at. I doubt anyone here has ever spoken to a female woman.
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:49 AM
1

You are a moron. She is already interested, you don’t have to hit on her over text, you don’t have to try to get her interested, you don’t have to try to keep her interested, you don’t have to game her. Text her and say “about that coffee you were insisting on - Wednesday or Thursday, which works better for you?”
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:31 AM
1

Learn this move: https://youtu.be/twb3d8MiTrs?si=MHx3L1Q5O1C9_HY6
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:26 AM
1

Me so horny!
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:25 AM
2

The hero we need!
/r/seduction21/07/24 01:25 AM
0

Shyness is fear of others or anticipating that something terrible will happen. The easiest way to get over shyness is talking to people about your shyness. When you remove the shame of feeling shy, you will essentially remove the shyness.
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:16 PM
0

Awwww
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:08 PM
3

But…but…but…but…I haven’t gotten around to asking her. Also, aren’t I supposed to be really funny and get to know her so she becomes interested in me?
/r/seduction20/07/24 09:01 PM
2

I thought it was your looks and nothing to do with mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:15 PM
2

Ask yourself why you feel that you need to buy a woman dinner?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 08:13 PM
7

Stop trying to get women. Stop trying to get them interested in you or keep them interested, stop trying to figure out what they would like you to say, stop trying to figure out what they like, stop trying to get them to do what you want them to do, stop trying to impress them, have them think well of you, etc. Convince yourself you are not really interested in them, but are bored and have nothing better to do than talk to her.
/r/seduction20/07/24 08:03 PM
1

https://youtu.be/daPXnxOZ28s?si=ig78T__CPI1rlXLq
/r/seduction20/07/24 07:56 PM
2

Yes.
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:42 PM
1

Not exactly. What I’m trying to say is that most men here are so PTSDed from dealing with women, that of course they would advise OP to never even leave his house.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 12:42 PM
4

Because they are disingenuous. And if this guy can’t be honest with us and with himself; then we can’t really help.
/r/seduction20/07/24 12:34 PM
3

I mean if you really don’t have any interactions with women, then fine. But don’t tell me you date left and right and women are sooo into you, but you haven’t even held hands with a girl.
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:46 AM
6

Yes, I am trolling because there are like 5 posts a week that are a variation of this. I’m super good looking, I get 5 dates a week, women literally throw their panties at me on the street….and oh, I’m 34 and yet I’ve never had sex before.
/r/seduction20/07/24 11:20 AM
1

This is like going to the r/MissingLimbs sub and asking them if working with a table saw is a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 11:05 AM
3

I hear they can take care of your problem in Thailand for $15-20,000.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:56 AM
4

The reason women scoff at the manosphere is the same reason manospherians scoff at feminism. You can always say about feminism that it is about freedom for women, having equal rights in society, courts and work. It’s about respect, etc, etc. And these are all wonderful things just like the things you listed about the manosphere. Until….you get to see what’s beneath the surface. And it’s all patriarchy this, patriarchy that, male privilege, every intercourse is rape, men are evil, kill all men, e…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:52 AM
2

The answer to your problem is contained in your last sentence.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:43 AM
-19

We don’t do gay conversion therapy here. Sorry!
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:43 AM
-3

Just say, “Don’t worry, there won’t be any kissing on this date”. Then end the date as soon as you can.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:41 AM
-1

Hello, I’m a 6’3” white man with blue yes and a trust fund. I have been on over 100 dates this year. Women throw themselves at me on the street. Yet, I have never even touched a boob. Please help’
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:40 AM
1

Yes. I mean my entire philosophy is based on it. Don’t be needy. Don’t chase.
/r/seduction20/07/24 10:27 AM

Ugh? Who is WE that’s putting them in this situation of being single moms? What are you smoking?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:27 AM
3

It works differently for men and women. Needy women usually get used for sex and just jerked around by men, because the man knows he has power over her and she needs him so desperately.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 10:25 AM
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I think it shows that it a guy is willing to denigrate himself so much just to get sex, that he is not to be trusted at all. It’s like hiring a salesperson and finding out that they lie and make false promises just to get a little sale. That doesn’t make them respectable employees. That makes them detestable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:12 AM
1

I never said that men are mentally incapable of falling in love or having loving relationships. I never said loving relationships are bad. But I do think that the intense neediness for love or a relationship is absolutely socially programmed into us. You need to differentiate between needing love and being capable of love.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/24 01:09 AM
1

The one with PhD in sucking dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:57 PM
6

It’s just another excuse to see yourself as a victim. Victim of your genetics, your parents, your gender, the generation you were born in, the apps, women, trans people, the liberals, and on and on and on and on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 09:55 PM
3

Stop trying to extend dates. You are chasing her and forcing her to reject you. When will you guys understand that women want to chase you, but you are not giving them the opportunity or space to do so? Make the first date 30 mins and use it to screen her and qualify her. Then dip. Leave her wanting more and wondering if you like her. The more you try to extend the date, the less she will be interested. Go ahead and try it. You will be writing here about how to turn around a ghost.
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:53 PM
1

Didn’t sound like this from your OP. So I think you are full of it.
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:29 PM
1

She should be the one being nervous that you might reject her. See, you guys go into these dates or approaches being so desperate to make it work, to be liked, to be approved of, to get sex, that you give women all the power. What did you do to vet her? What are your deal breakers? What would make you reject her? If nothing, then you have a lot of work to do on yourself. Stop treating them like they are infallible, or just because they have a pussy you have to jump through every hoop. If you don…
/r/seduction19/07/24 09:22 PM
7

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/feeling-good-podcast-team-cbt-the-new-mood-therapy/id1171155453?i=1000433844659 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/feeling-good-podcast-team-cbt-the-new-mood-therapy/id1171155453?i=1000434402813
/r/seduction19/07/24 08:07 PM
3

37% of the time every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 07:18 PM
4

It’s built by society. Both men and women get messages from songs, TV, movies, books and poems about how love is a requirement for happiness. “All you need is love…”, “I can’t go on living without you baby” and “people who need people are the luckiest people in the world” and so and so forth. But I think men have it a little worse, because in addition to this brainwashing, society also leverages men’s high sex drive to get men to work hard. Every advertisement targeting men usually features a ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:25 PM
17

It’s a known fact that 20% of the PPD posters make up 80% of the claims they make.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 06:09 PM
2

Women are only looking for someone who is stronger than they are. Someone that will take care of business without them having to worry about it. Thats it. That’s why women will bust balls and give men a hard time. They are testing your mettle. Most men are too weak and not anchored in their own reality to be able to pull this off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 04:00 PM
5

I think it’s absolute bullcrap. Women have the exact same needs and wants that men do. They just manifest them and express them differently and it takes a certain approach to get women to open up. Women are also just as sexual as men are, and you don’t need to do anything to convince them to have sex, such as bribe them with dinners, car rides, trips, promises of commitment and so on and so forth. There are some things that you have observed that are real but you completely misinterpreted the da…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:58 PM

Nobody has the power to make you feel worthless without your permission.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 03:19 PM
5

You are operating out of fear that you will run out of time blah blah blah. I’m turning 43, in the best shape of my life, have most of my hair and haven’t even gotten many grey hairs yet. What rush are you in when you are not even 30? You are not a woman. Your eggs won’t expire. If you really want to solve this issue, step back and get to the bottom of it. For example, state the negative thought you just identified: Time is running out for me to get married. Or do the one where you feel worthles…
/r/seduction19/07/24 03:19 PM
3

Then you may be good. It just gets tuff to date someone when they have to commute 60+ mins to see you. Do you plan on getting a car if you live there?
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:43 PM
3

Life is too short to live in misery. As a child of parents who took forever to get divorced, I can tell you staying together and serving a broken relationship as a role model to your kids will be much more damaging to them long term.
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:34 PM
3

East Bronx? You won’t be able to pull anyone but the local hood rat. Admittedly, I don’t know anything about the Bronx but I remember dating a girl up in Co-op City and I visited her there all but once. I think you should do whatever you can to get a place on your own in a desirable and convenient area of the city, but until then, get over the fear that your mom will find out you want to fuck girls. I was fucking my first girlfriend at 16 in my room while my mom slept next doors.
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:33 PM

No, I get it. You have subconscious resistance and pushing against that just makes you dig your heels in deeper. Thats what they say that the biggest cause of failure for therapists is actually trying to help. A patient cannot be forced to get help. They need to be motivated to be helped. I speak to a lot of guys who say they have “tried EVERYTHING” and done “EVERYTHING” that was expected of them. When pressed for details, however, those details seem to be very sparse. So pardon me if I don’t bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:28 PM
1

I do, why don’t you?
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:25 PM
2

I don’t think I’ve ever met any of my exes exes, I’ve surely heard about them though. There is usually a correlation between a woman whose exes are always somehow abusive and serial cheaters and the woman having serious mental health issues herself (aka “she a crazy bitch”).
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:43 PM

Aren’t men funny? Why do men not want “sluts”? Because they think a slut is a woman who will do it with ANYBODY! She has no self respect, no standards, so doing it with me, it would feel gross and degrading to me. Also men: I will literally take ANY woman, and I mean ANY woman that just wants to be with me, I need sex sooooo bad. Ny standards are already in the gutter! Why nobody wants me, whaaa, whaaaa!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:40 PM
1

As much as a I love women, I love being a man more!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:36 PM

Let me give you an analogy. Let’s say I want to go fishing this weekend. So I head over to this lake nearby that I know is usually teeming with fish. I get into my row boat and head over to a nice spot. Prepare my bait, select the right hook and sinker and I start throwing. As I sit there, I start feeling fish nibble on my bait. I’ve done this a lot so I know not to retract too fast or I will lose them. So I’m patient. And when one does get on the hook, I tank and retract it from the water. By t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 01:36 PM

Living the dream bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:28 AM
1

You know it takes two to make a baby?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 10:27 AM
23

Go up to her and say: “I noticed you noticing me. I wanted to tell you that I really admire women who have such good taste in men.”
/r/seduction19/07/24 02:18 AM
0

Where was your dad in all of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/24 02:16 AM
1

Twist: op is in the emergency room because a dildo got stuck up his ass.
/r/seduction19/07/24 01:38 AM
2

Let me guess? You chat for days and days on end, every hour, sending her blocks of text?
/r/seduction19/07/24 01:37 AM
-1

You kind of sound weird bro, ngl.
/r/seduction19/07/24 01:36 AM
2

You are attached to having a gf/family, telling yourself you can only be happy when you have them. Let go of that idea.
/r/seduction18/07/24 11:33 PM
1

I’ve had pretty healthy dating and sexual experiences and my views are considered extreme. For example, I maintain that men don’t women to be happy. They are just attached to the idea that they need a woman or be successful with women in order to be happy. I believe 90% men are the cause of their own dating problems. Another very extreme idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:43 PM
3

I think it takes the humanity out of how we perceive people. Men perceive women as sex objects, women perceive men as status/success objects. All humanity be damned.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:36 PM
0

So it’s not really about getting good advice. It’s just about getting even with those evil wimminz?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:35 PM
4

My mom was extremely shy and socially anxious. So she taught me to be nice and worry about what other people think of me and to be modest. All very nice qualities but completely useless for a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 09:46 PM
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Taking dating advice from your mom as a man is the same as a girl taking tampon/pad/first period advice from her dad. How can a woman tell you how to be a man? She cannot possibly have the experience of being a man, so how would she teach you? Even in tribal cultures, boys have to undergo a Rites of Passage ceremony to become men. The ceremony is guided by other men, the elders of the tribe, who are the only ones to teach the boy how to become a man. His mom is not part of that ceremony. It’s ri…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 08:37 PM
13

Have you heard of the Law of Reverse Effort? The less you try, the easier you get results? And the harder you try, the more success eludes you? It usually applies to human interactions the most, but there is a correlation with trying too hard and achieving less than if you weren’t really trying. By the sound of it, it seems like you are trying too hard to get a girlfriend, get laid, be seen as super attractive. This try hard attitude can actually turn people off. Weird, I know, but that’s how it…
/r/seduction18/07/24 07:10 PM
1

Lolz autocorrect I guess. I will edit
/r/seduction18/07/24 07:02 PM
6

Yes, I agree! We are social creatures and I’m certainly not advocating social isolation or hermitism. But there are some really interesting paradoxes that are observable in people who need things. For example, research shows that people who fast or experience hunger will avoid bitter tasting foods: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/hunger-intensifies-taste/ While the thinking is that bitter tasting foods can be potentially toxic, isn’t it paradoxical that a hungry person will avoid spec…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:36 PM
12

I completely disagree with the premise that men need women emotionally. I do believe that men are conditioned to be emotionally dependent on women, but it is all cultural and social conditioning as opposed to something innate in our genes. So what this guy is observing is that men BELIEVE they need a woman to be happy, and if they don’t have one, it causes them to become unhappy. But it is the belief that causes the pain as opposed to the pain being caused by not fulfilling some innate natural n…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:11 PM
1

Again, never happened to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:05 PM
0

The reason so many women dread being approached is because men just do it wrong. Like their entire approach to approaching is wrong. I can go into it, but here are the highlights: Men will typically approach with a specific end goal of sex, thus objectifying the woman or making her feel sexualized. In other words, he is there to extract sex out of her and in his mind that usually means acting overly sexual or trying hard to impress her in hopes that she will then give him sex. While it is true t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:05 PM
3

Younger women are probably not dating older men enmasse, but many of them sure are fucking older men in the down low.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:46 PM
0

I must have been a really ugly kid. None of my female teachers touched me inappropriately. Heck, even the male ones didn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 01:45 PM
5

You seem to forget that language is a relatively recent development I. Human evolution and that we’ve existed for hundreds of thousands of years without it. We relied solely on feelings and being able to read other people. So you are going to tell me that you have never met someone and immediately thought “there is something creepy about this person, I don’t want to be around them”. You can’t put your finger on it but you feel it. You’ve never met someone and immediately felt that they are hosti…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 11:02 AM
1

The advice can be summed up as “don’t come on too strong”, which is the exact opposite of what YOU are wanting to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:49 AM
1

You have it backwards. Black and white thinking causes anxiety and personality disorders (aka depression, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:49 AM
1

Sorry hun, but humans just like animals have a mating dance and you are trying to completely bypass it and speedrun to 15 years into marriage, two and a half kids, 30 lbs overweight and sleeping in different beds.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 10:46 AM
21

Here is some news for you Walter Cronkite: women desire sex as much as men. Thats why guys don’t have to do anything to convince women. They already want to sleep with the right guy. You just gotta be the right guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/24 02:15 AM
33

Read the cues. This girls are usually with their back facing the bar and scanning the crowd. Thoughts that go through their head are something like “I can do this guy, I can do that guy….oh, I can do the two of them!” Their lipstick is usually redder, skirt shorter, heels higher. If they are closed off and talking to each other, don’t bother. If they make eye contact, look at them deep in the eyes like you are fucking them. And as you are doing smile and approach without breaking eye contact. Yo…
/r/seduction18/07/24 02:14 AM
1

https://youtu.be/aVFfvwbhNJE?si=JGAAh3oiYU0cFbW0
/r/seduction18/07/24 02:10 AM
5

One thing I know is that relationships based on lies and deception always survive.
/r/seduction18/07/24 02:08 AM
2

Deep state doesn’t want people to know the truth.
/r/seduction18/07/24 01:32 AM
1

Womp womp
/r/seduction18/07/24 12:26 AM
7

That’s a BINGO!
/r/seduction18/07/24 12:23 AM
8

The saying is “new ass is the best ass”. So yes and no. All pussy is just different flavors of pussy. But a man (and women) always craves novelty. New genetic makeup up, new dna, new flavor. It what motivates us to spread our genes instead of keeping it all in the family or tribe and then all kids become retarded (look up genetic diversity).
/r/seduction18/07/24 12:22 AM
-1

lol, bro, you are so manly and dominant. Look at you, taking me down a peg. The chicks must be hanging off your arms beginning for some of your alphaness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:12 PM
-2

You seem overly concerned with whether I’m ripped or not. Next thing you are gonna be asking me for shirtless pics. And a dick pick just to check that my nuts have atrophied. You are weird bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:09 PM
-1

Womp womp
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 09:06 PM
3

Mass approaching is for weirdo losers. I know because I’ve done it. You want to skyrocket your success? Become crystal clear on what type of girl you want. Example 5’5”-5’5”, goth, 120 lbs, big tits. If you are not that, don’t apply. Then have criteria to screen them for. What do you like? Do you want a slut who you can tie and spank? Do you want a chick who will bring her best friend to fuck you? Whatever it is. Have some criteria and start screening women. If you are not the one screening them…
/r/seduction17/07/24 08:36 PM
9

It’s easier when they are the ones trying to get you.
/r/seduction17/07/24 08:34 PM
2

Just learn a few lines and give compliments to random people. Compliment them on what they are wearing, shoes, etc. Even saying “I love your shirt, where did you get it from?”
/r/seduction17/07/24 08:33 PM
1

I just say whatever is on my mind at the time, but if I use one I really like, I just add it to my arsenal.
/r/seduction17/07/24 08:19 PM
2

That too! Women understand vulnerability as the first one. Men define it as the second (trauma dumping and becoming pathetic).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:19 PM
17

Hey yall, loook at how cool I am, my sister graduated from Harvard yall.
/r/seduction17/07/24 06:15 PM
0

You have to look at it this way. A man complaining and crying about his problems to a woman has the same effect on how attractive he is to her as a woman who sits around and complains about how she can’t put the fork down and needs to inhale sweets and sodas to make herself feel better, or how tired she is of maintaining her figure, her hair and skin, putting on make up, shaving and so on and so forth. Women look for men who are stronger than them so they know if shit happens, this guy can handl…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 06:14 PM
-1

That’s just being smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:58 PM
5

Oh god, you haven’t heard about the SMV Stock Echange bro?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:53 PM
2

Overexpectation is one of the biggest causes of failure, for many reasons. It is best to not expect anything and to focus on enjoying yourself and having fun, as opposed to having an agenda and trying to talk a woman into fitting into your agenda. There are some mental tricks you can try to disassociate yourself from expectations. One such trick might be to try and pick up a girl for your friend. Let’s say you are out at a bar, having fun, having a drink. You see a cute girl. Instead of thinking…
/r/seduction17/07/24 03:38 PM
20

So here are the secrets to flirting. What is flirting? It’s a slightly exaggerated, humorous and playful communication with sexual or romantic undertones. Playful is the real secret sauce here, because you don’t want to be overly serious, sexual or creepy. Flirting isn’t just giving a compliment “you look beautiful today”. So boring! It isn’t overtly sexual like “damn, you can make a grown man cry with that ass”. It isn’t creepy like “why bother wearing that short skirt at all, girl, I bet you l…
/r/seduction17/07/24 03:27 PM

It’s my reality, they are just guests in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:38 PM
0

That’s correct. If you also listened to some of the advice and let it get through your thick skull, you might actually regain a bit of your power.
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:28 AM
0

In your reality, they certainly do.
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:25 AM
1

When you say asking girls out, you just roll over to them and say “hey I saw you from over there and through you were hella cute and I told myself I must come over and talk to you. Can I get your insta?”
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:25 AM
1

Just say “very smart of you”. And please don’t try to buy women’s interest by mentioning your jacuzzi. Those things are a reward for her being a good girl.
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:23 AM
5

I can’t think of anything more lame than traveling halfway cross Europe for some pussy. You would have been better off booking a train to Amsterdam and hitting up the red light district.
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:20 AM
1

It’s a red flag that you either misrepresented yourself or didn’t set the rules properly (assuming that you don’t want to be in a relationship yourself).
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:19 AM
0

lol, when one person needs the other person more, the other person has all the power. You have zero power.
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:18 AM
1

Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 10:13 AM
1

Do you really think a prostitute will have a job much longer if she’s full of STDs?
/r/seduction17/07/24 10:11 AM
0

Who’s reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:10 AM
-1

Instead of focusing on all that’s wrong with you, focus on how to become the man you want to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 02:09 AM
-1

Yep, it’s called look in the mirror and fix your goddamn life.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 01:12 AM
1

Prostitution is legal in Germany.
/r/seduction17/07/24 12:45 AM

How is your loser mentality working out for you? Oh let me guess? Still posting on ForeverAlone?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:44 AM

You have no idea what you are talking about. Keep kissing ass and thinking you will get to sniff that pussy one day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:43 AM
1

How is any of this useful to you? If you really want to buy into this whole social invented SMV value system, at least play by your own rules and measure yourself by the things you are good at and not the things that you are lacking in. Instead of a 5 in looks, be a 10 in confidence. It’s my universe, my rules. I never rate myself below a woman. I don’t care how hot she think she is. I am convinced I’m hotter than she is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:42 AM
1

How is this at all useful to you or anyone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:41 AM
-1

This is defeatist loser shit. Decide what kind of man you want to be (loser or winner) and then set out to become that man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:39 AM
2

Posturing and virtue signaling. The same way that self professed virgins turn up their noses at high n count women or single moms. But if they actually had a chance to get laid with one of those chicks they scoff at, they’d be throwing their convictions out of the window faster than they can say their own name.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:39 AM
1

Was I not clear enough in my post? It’s an opportunity for her show her poor judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 12:35 AM
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Sit down and write in excruciating detail what is the kind of man you want to be. Then set out to become this man.
/r/seduction16/07/24 11:38 PM
2

It’s not rejection though. It’s an opportunity to see what kind of person she is. Why would I want someone who is this shallow and can’t afford her own meal? You forget a couple of other things. First, you assume that the man has already made a decision he wants this woman and will therefore do everything in his power to please her so she gets her. You forget that a first date is just the first of many steps of screening for whether the woman is worthy of you. A first date is a test of her quali…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:37 PM
1

You forget something. The man is the one asking out and therefore the one who decides where and what you do. Why take her to dinner? Why not take her to a strip club and see if she has good taste in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:25 PM
5

TikToks. Everyone knows these are reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 05:18 PM
3

Here are some truths that most men will never know: Women have the same needs and desires as we do. They just go about expressing them differently. This means they want some fun, good sex and love as much as the next guy. Women desire sex as much as men do, so there is no point in trying to convince them to have sex. Men operate on the assumption that the average woman is frigid and not interested in dick and that he has to work hard to convince her otherwise. Women are very adaptable to how men…
/r/seduction16/07/24 05:11 PM
2

Oy vey
/r/seduction16/07/24 03:24 PM
12

So I know what your problem is (most likely), but you won’t like what I have to tell you and you won’t like the solution. I’ve been exactly where you are. Doing the mandatory 100 approached a week, a bunch of numbers, a bunch of cute and teasing messages and trying to get women out on date. I approached a lot and went on a lot of dates and still managed to mess up. I couldn’t figure out what my problem was. Why? Was something wrong with me? Did I have some weird energy or vibe about me that woul…
/r/seduction16/07/24 02:52 PM
2

Absolutely men see women as evil, out to get them, hostile, mean, etc. It’s like a dog that has been kicked once and now every time you try to pet it, it flinches in anticipation of being hit again. There was an old school dating coach called David X, who would tell this allegory: A guy is driving down the highway and blows a tire. He looks in the trunk and there is no spare. So he thinks “I just passed a gas station 20 miles back, I guess I will try my luck and go forward”. So he takes off the …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:51 PM
0

That’s a BINGO!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 01:43 PM
4

Take a day trip to Rome or Milan. You won’t get over your fears if you only talk to people you already know.
/r/seduction16/07/24 11:21 AM
3

As I said, it’s not the best advice, but it has a grain of truth in it. And men usually interpret this advice as “self isolate, stay home and don’t talk to anybody”. It’s really more of letting go of wanting specific results and just enjoy interactions with people without an agenda.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 11:12 AM
2

Bro, seriously. If you are recently divorced don’t jump into things like this. You are apparently very needy and it’s turning women off. Take a couple of months off and consciously spend your time by yourself in fulfilling ways. Do things that you couldn’t do with your wife or because she didn’t want to. Enjoy spending time alone. Don’t think about women right now. The biggest mistake guys make is to try and fill the gap they feel from losing their spouse/gf with another woman. That makes them n…
/r/seduction16/07/24 10:51 AM
1

Watch this 10x times: https://youtu.be/VNy3Npkg6P4?si=SlYTZkQSjt0vrwwM
/r/seduction16/07/24 10:45 AM
1

I think you are conflating two completely different paradigms here. Have you ever heard the advice “you will find love when you stop looking”? Did you stop to think about what it means? Most folks consider this bad advice, but there is a lot of truth in it. Let’s take it apart then to analyze. Why isn’t easier to find someone when you are not looking? What does it mean? It simply means that people who are actively looking for love tend to be needy and emotionally codependent. Ie, they have convi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/24 10:42 AM
1

I see Asian girls with these Asian guys who look like twinks all the time. Make sure you also bleach your asshole and don’t get a tan.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:49 PM
1

If she replies with “I’m not trouble”, then reply with “you aren’t? I’m unmatching you then”
/r/seduction15/07/24 09:45 PM
1

That’s why you are having all kinds of trouble getting laid.
/r/seduction15/07/24 09:19 PM
1

Is hotness your only standard?
/r/seduction15/07/24 09:04 PM
1

Focus on overcoming your fear of women and expressing your interest in women. Think about it this way. You are here -> X. Young, insecure, afraid. Afraid of women, afraid of expressing interest. Afraid of your mom finding out that you want to fuck girls. Afraid that if other people found out you want to fuck girls, they’d look down on you. Afraid that if I girl you like found out you want to fuck her, she’d be offended and so on and so forth. Now imagine Prince Charming. The man women fantasize …
/r/seduction15/07/24 07:29 PM
1

You get what you pay for.
/r/seduction15/07/24 07:23 PM
0

Quite the opposite. The higher your standards, the quicker.
/r/seduction15/07/24 06:41 PM
6

I’m agreeing with you. I’m pointing out that your results will match the level of investment.
/r/seduction15/07/24 05:30 PM
7

How is this common knowledge when most men on PPD are self professed virgins and incels? How did these guys find out that women with a lot of partners have damaged pair-bonding ability?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 05:29 PM
1

And even before that, it was a caveman who grunted: “Grok want fuck” and if the cave girl objected he smacked her on the head with his club and dragged her to the cave.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 04:23 PM
6

My local homeless guy has a girlfriend he lives on the streets with. But then again, he is fucking a homeless girl.
/r/seduction15/07/24 04:16 PM
2

I will let you on a secret. The only thing that seems to consistently align in terms of success with women is how satisfied I feel with myself. The more satisfied I am, the more women seem to want me. The less satisfied I am, the more they treat me like I’m invisible.
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:49 PM
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The whole looks debate is full of all or nothing irrational beliefs though. Guys who think looks matter, either go to the extreme of focusing ONLY on their looks or the the extreme of saying “fuck it, I don’t have the looks, I will die alone”. And vice versa, the guys who don’t think looks matter end up either not doing anything to improve their looks or they focus exclusively on everything else BUT looks.
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:40 PM
2

Are you ashamed that your mom will find out you are interested in women?
/r/seduction15/07/24 03:35 PM
1

Why are you so hung up on the Broadway thing? It’s just an expression.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:56 AM
1

Refer to OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:26 AM
1

I grew up in Europe and we didn’t have a formal dating culture like we have in the US. You met up with people at school, in social situations, the pub, whatever. And you hooked up and only then decided if you should date or not. Not saying euros don’t go out to dinner and what not, but it’s not this whole “the first date has to be dinner at a restaurant and a Broadway show or it’s low effort”. Like bitch I don’t know you. The point of spending time with you isn’t to impress you with dinner or my…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 10:16 AM
0

If you don’t see how being a weird cyberstalker who is obsessed with this woman after a couple conversations is a turn off, then I don’t know what to tell you.
/r/seduction15/07/24 10:13 AM
4

Easy. Stop caring about getting laid.
/r/seduction15/07/24 10:11 AM
2

If you don’t understand why the dork in the video didn’t get any matches, than you are beyond help.
/r/seduction15/07/24 10:11 AM
5

Incel logic/math - it’s super easy for women to meet men. Every woman has a boyfriend or several guys she’s fucking. Also incels - most men are single and sexless and can’t get a date to save their lives. So who exactly are women fucking? Each other? A third gender we don’t know about? Extraterrestrial aliens? Make it make sense.
/r/seduction15/07/24 10:10 AM
2

Pretty much all of Europe.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 09:56 AM
4

If you asked a man whether he believes the following statement to be true: “A man must work hard to win over a woman if he wants her!” …he will most certainly agree enthusiastically. The idea that men have to prove themselves and earn a woman’s affection is so baked into our culture, that no one ever questions it. If you asked a man whether: “women actually secretly desire a man whose affection they have to work hard to win!”…you would probably be called a psycho and a Blue Pill cuck. But only o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:14 AM
-1

Or just don’t date at all. Dating is an American invention anyway. In other countries and cultures people just get together and fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/24 12:02 AM
-4

Where do hot girls go to meet men you dweeb. Jesus.
/r/seduction14/07/24 11:53 PM
4

No. Let her ask for your number or tell her to find you on Insta.
/r/seduction14/07/24 11:08 PM
1

Got it. You are one of those dudes that has an excuse for everything
/r/seduction14/07/24 09:14 PM
0

Where do attractive women in your city go out to meet men? Because I can assure you it’s not the mall. Do you get it? If you want to hunt deer, don’t go on a boat in the lake.
/r/seduction14/07/24 08:57 PM
0

You seem to think the world is a hostile place and that you need to beat some other guy to that precious pussy or else he may taint it with his dirty cock. Is this what you are getting at?
/r/seduction14/07/24 08:31 PM
3

Why are you approaching women at the mall if you want to lose your virginity? Thats like going to shop for a car at the dollar store.
/r/seduction14/07/24 08:27 PM
7

Just turn the tables on her. “You are right, you probably won’t be able to keep up with me in the bedroom. I can make you a warm glass of milk and tuck you in if you get too winded and need a nap” “Look at you, still being able to pick up young guys in their prime. I bet other girls wanna know your secret”.
/r/seduction14/07/24 08:26 PM
2

Literal bro science.
/r/seduction14/07/24 07:06 PM
1

Sure you have bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:41 PM
4

If sex is such a huge hang up for you, I’d still recommend it. But as a young guy, you still have time. If you want to do this the right way, make it your rite of passage test to go out until you get a girl home and fuck her. Depending on how the night life is in your city, do out every night of the week, preferably late at night 1-2 hours before closing of bars, clubs and try to find girls who want to be taken home and fucked. Go out and try until you succeed. Even if it ends up sucking, you wi…
/r/seduction14/07/24 06:38 PM
1

If you can’t see how you are following, you may want to take a cognitive test because you are performing worse than Biden. You are still playing by her rules. You are still worried about how she will judge you. Women should be worried about how to win YOU over. But that has never occurred to you, has it? Maybe your mom told you not to be selfish and make everything about yourself? Worst advice ever. It is about being selfish. It is about focusing on what you want. By saying “I am not going to ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:34 PM
1

It’s her reality and you are just a mere guest in it. Women have all the power in your reality. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:30 PM
0

You know how they say that in ever relationship there is always a Reacher and a Settler. In other words, one party always wants/needs the other one more and that party is the one with the least power. One chases, one is being chased,m. You can either be one OR the other. You cannot be both or a little bit of this and a little bit of that. Well, in this relationship you are Reacher and she is the Settler (settling for you). You might be able to turn it around, but you will have to be completely o…
/r/seduction14/07/24 06:25 PM
2

Not just difficult to find. Almost unicorn level of rare.
/r/seduction14/07/24 06:15 PM
2

Nice! Leaves you all week to go and find other girls to fuck.
/r/seduction14/07/24 06:09 PM
8

As someone who’s been with low experience women, I’d take the high body count one any day of the week. Unlike most men on this sub, sex and women don’t carry any meaning to me. My ability to get sex doesn’t carry any meaning to me. It’s just an enjoyable activity and I prefer to do it with someone enthusiastic and experienced. You guys ascribe too much meaning and value to women, getting women, getting sex, etc. It’s like a measuring stick for your self worth and how you think other men perceive…
/r/seduction14/07/24 06:08 PM
16

Go hire an escort and have sex. Get it out of the way. When you find one you like, practice sex with her and even ask her to teach you a thing or two. Then figure out what you want, focus on that and go make it happen.
/r/seduction14/07/24 06:02 PM
2

Again, your entire frame of mind is “women expect this so I better deliver if I want a chance at sniffing their pussy”. So yes, you are a follower. You are following their lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 06:00 PM
1

Man has tried fighting his nature for unknown eons and never to good consequences. If you were paying even a sliver of attention, you will notice that women crave a man who will make decisions and take charge. They want to shut off their logical brain and just enjoy the ride. So many guys want women to be in charge of the relationship, to follow her lead, to do what she wants. All of these relationships end up crashing and burning. Thats why so many men are frustrated too. They spend all their t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:59 PM
1

I said you are a follower because you are focusing on what the woman wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:54 PM
0

There are some things in nature that you need to accept that they are that way because they are. In female/male mating, the male is supposed to take the lead. It works better this way. It’s not demeaning to women. It’s not about dominating women. It’s about making decisions and taking charge. The sexiest thing a man can say to a woman is “I got this!” Men fail to understand this and they fail to understand the emotional need women have to be with a man who they feel confident following. If you r…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:26 PM
1

I thought you guys were all about watch what she does not what she says. But it seems your only interactions with women are what they wrote on their profile (let’s face it, they probably never match with you) or what some influencer said on TikTok. You guys gotta get your story straight.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 05:06 PM
1

You can only be in three positions a with a woman. Lead, follow or get out of the way. You are obviously following (because whAaa women expect dinner whaaa whaaa). It’s better to get out of the way than to follow. And you obviously can’t lead. So that’s your only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:59 PM
2

You kind of sound in love with your best friend and he might be in love with you. It also seems you don’t have a very high opinion of women. I’m trying to put 2 and 2 together for you here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 03:56 PM

Perhaps the problem is your overexpectation and mental filtering. Typically, when men talk about “women”, they are really mentally filtering only the top 5-10% of women they find very attractive. In other words, the hotties. The rest don’t exist or even register as “women”. Then the issue becomes your overexpectation that you should be able to date these types of women as well, although you yourself are not a hottie. Not sure where the entitlement comes from, but it’s apparently there.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 01:07 PM
8

I cannot think of anything more diminishing than making the opinions others have of you more important than your own opinion of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/24 12:57 PM
1

Here is how attractive women show interest: https://youtube.com/shorts/IWfbNCccMqc?si=Kslb2PugqFa2Brlb
/r/seduction14/07/24 12:47 PM
2

Cialis
/r/seduction14/07/24 12:46 PM
26

Soyou regret not going home with him?
/r/seduction14/07/24 12:44 PM
3

Women are super obvious when they signal you: https://youtube.com/shorts/IWfbNCccMqc?si=-GwANFtXRl4LHmrF
/r/seduction14/07/24 01:36 AM
2

Look, I’ve been the guy who couldn’t read social cues and ends up butting into a group without being welcome. You learned the hard way….hopefully. Men seem to have this to thing where they want to be able to say they won in the hardest situation possible: “Hey so I saw this girl, she had her headphones on, she was staring at her laptop, she was sitting in a ring of fire and she was surrounded by men with machine guns. Oh, and by the way, this is all happening underwater while I was scuba diving …
/r/seduction14/07/24 12:30 AM
6

I hope guys can understand that immediately wanting to hook up with a woman is the equivalent of a woman straight up asking you how much you make and to buy her dinner or a drink. I get it that men would be flattered if a woman wanted to use him for sex, but the equivalent of a man only wanting the sex part is a woman only wanting the you paying for her part. If you can’t see how this is dehumanizing and a total turn off, then I don’t know what to tell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:06 PM
1

The white knight syndrome in men is not natural. It’s a sign of low self esteem and believing you will feel worthwhile if you save a damsel in distress.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 08:02 PM
2

Here is the answer to your question: https://youtu.be/VNy3Npkg6P4?si=Jr9CwzcoZh7yNJ2N
/r/seduction13/07/24 07:12 PM

I think your biggest logical fallacy is assuming that the ratio of attractive to unattractive men is something that is written in stone, like an immutable law of nature or physics and there is nothing a man can possibly do to become the man women want. And even if you believe you can do something about it, you just end up barking up the wrong tree of height, jaw shape and so on and so forth. Have you thought that perhaps the majority of men behave in a really unattractive manner? That they may i…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 05:04 PM
2

The men living with 10 women in one house or just hoarding a bunch of fuckbuddies all magically seem to live in the locale of the men complaining they don’t get any action. I wonder if there is some kind of common denominator here?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 04:58 PM
-4

Yes, the answer is obviously to try even harder to invade people’s conversations because you are so desperate for the approval of one cute girl.
/r/seduction13/07/24 04:03 PM
4

All of this exists solely in your own head.
/r/seduction13/07/24 04:00 PM
1

Because all human beings have a dark side and are capable of hate and violence. Woke people seem to only be accepting of a very particular and narrow set of beliefs and nothing else. And this tolerance is only apparently reserved for very specific segments of the population. Everyone else’s thoughts and opinions must be policed and suppressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:50 PM
1

Why are you hell bent on policing people’s thoughts?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 03:42 PM
1

As I said, it’s the one illusion I’m not willing to give up. I’m cursed because I’m a face man first and an ass man second. There are way more women with nice asses and bodies in general than with nice faces.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:28 PM
1

I don’t say anything to their face. But someone should.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:23 PM
1

They are allowed to be fat and proud of it and I’m allowed to be grossed out.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:20 PM
-3

YES BUT THAT DOESN’T COUNT
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:20 PM
1

Makeup is one illusion I’m willing to believe willingly. If it weren’t for makeup, I’d only be attracted to 1-3% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 01:14 PM
0

So I have a lot of interest in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The psychologist who popularized it and developed it, Dr. David Burns, observed that while the majority of his patients ended up recovering from their anxiety or depression issues, many of his patients showed a ton of resistance to change. Despite the fact that they were really suffering. This is known as therapeutic resistance. And it actually results from having mixed feelings about changing or doing the work that is needed to change…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 12:16 PM
1

I’ve said this many times. Something I learned from Dr. David Burns: People NEVER want what they CAN get and ONLY want what they CAN’T get. Most people hate hearing this and believe it only applies to mentally unstable, traumatized people with daddy or savior issues, and so on. But that’s not true. It’s literally the most common human behavior ever. Hell, even my dogs live by this law of the universe. My one dog can have all the toys in the world, but if my other dog is chewing on a specific one…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:50 AM
1

It goes back to the millennia old problem of treating women like property and pets. Men collectively decided that women don’t have their own agency and just like pets or children they have to be lied to and protected from the real world consequences. This has been going on for so long that it is culturally ingrained in every single person on Earth at this point. Man = bad, woman = angel. And don’t ever dare tell a woman the truth to her face, because she will hate you forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:34 AM
2

I mean sure, you have a point and I generally agree with you. I also think the pendulum has actually swung the other way. I see women with their literally guts hanging out of their clothes with zero shame or concern about how gross it looks like. It’s almost like they are proud of how fat they are. If they really think anyone finds this appealing, they must be even more delusional than Lizzo.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:31 AM
3

Interesting conclusions. Yet, me and all my friends are married or in LTR. And every time I go out on a walk with my dogs (I’m live in a very touristy area), I see a ton of couples. Somehow your math of only 5-10% of men fucking all the women doesn’t seem quite realistic just from observing real life. But of course, real life empirical evidence doesn’t count, because these women are really just settling and they are not really having sex and they are not really in love and the women are secretly…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/24 11:26 AM
-5

Yes, you missed the one chance in life you had at having sex.
/r/seduction13/07/24 11:13 AM
0

I’m married but I’m very flirty and will approach every once in a while just to keep practice. I’m on 30 adderall and on testosterone replacement therapy. Watch your caffeine intake, take it easy. Sleep well. I get aggressive at times and often might want to punch someone, but otherwise all good. Addy makes me very talkative and confident but can also cause oversharing etc. Is your dose considered high?
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:30 PM
1

I pop amphetamines like candy. What do you want to know?
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:21 PM
2

He actually tried to kill himself twice AFTER he became famous.
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:08 PM
5

Honestly the only thing that works is to accuse them of hitting on you or pretend that it is so hard to be a man who is constantly ogled at and hit up for hook ups.
/r/seduction12/07/24 02:40 PM
3

Watch this video 20 times before you decide to hit send: https://youtu.be/VNy3Npkg6P4?si=QZVxMLpI9yzpD2ba
/r/seduction12/07/24 12:43 PM
-3

Have you tried cutting off your dick and balls and joining a monastery?
/r/seduction12/07/24 12:12 PM
4

Gaijin hunters? This sounds hot!
/r/seduction12/07/24 12:11 PM
5

As I said, there is a reason all these pickup coaches tell you to approach 100s of women and that’s not because it’s effective.
/r/seduction12/07/24 11:33 AM
2

Please don’t. It’s so pathetic and lame. And they will never be honest with you anyway. If you really want feedback, I can give it to you…ermm, your friend, but he’s not going to like it.
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:51 AM
6

Ever wonder why those pickup coaches advocate approaching 100s of women every day of the week?
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:48 AM
12

You should always hunch over, extend your neck forward and cross your arms in front of your chest.
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:41 AM
6

Obviously hiding from you.
/r/seduction12/07/24 10:41 AM
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