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Having a loving partner boosts your self esteem, motivation, mental health etc tremendously. Can confirm. That's why I hardly come here anymore. A good relationship > single any day of the week. When I was single I was paying my home, holding my job, and indulging in my hobbies and I can def do that but being in a good relationship is way better. It's not mental illness, spiritual void, or whatever other shit people try to peddle to want companionship. That gaslighting needs to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/24 10:37 PM
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Yeah "it-it would never happen to me" as if no one has ever asaulted someone with no provocation on the streets. I grew up in east L.A and I saw homeless woman stab a random old guy with no provocation. Dude was just walking minding his own business. Looked like she was hopped up on shit. But you have no actual response to what I said. Women cannot assault men for no reason cause women always good and man always bad. You're a fuckin tool dude.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:59 PM
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When did he say he actually got beat up by her? You're either retarded or you got the strap-on so far up your ass it it's affecting your reading comprehension. He got pepper sprayed. If this happened to you, what would you do as the absolute manly alpha leonidas you proclaim to be? I'm dying to hear your idea.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 08:40 PM
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Following 🙌
/r/MensRights19/09/23 04:44 AM
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Ok if its some message like "hi" "hello", then that's not sexual harrassment by any stretch. However if some dude is sending "wAnNa sEe mY dIcK" to 100 women indiscrimately, then yes. Also ones that's can't take rejection gracefully and start insulting or threatening if a woman doesn't like them. Like do ya actually think a girl is gonna go "oh I see you're really butthurt by my rejection, that makes me so wet". This is just retarded, fellas. I'm very MRA, you can see by my post history, but thi…
/r/MensRights19/09/23 04:28 AM
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I disagree with what that guy says but for every 1 comment like this guy's, there's like 10 about us over at two x chromosomes on how worthless we are on a daily basis. You can't actually believe they are doing anything close to taking the high road.
/r/MensRights19/09/23 03:07 AM
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Men are definitely at higher risk to be victims of violent crime. The "whatchu you lookin at?" guy and his crew are far more ubiquitous than any rapists trying to get you into a dark corner. These guys could be almost literally anywhere and will beat you to a pulp and stomp your head in for the lulz. They will do it at night or in broad daylight and don't care if there are witnesses or cameras around. At least you can form a strategy to avoid the rapist by not walking around at night by yourself…
/r/MensRights17/09/23 11:07 PM
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But if it is the only thing we post, we won't have as much merit to stand on Dude, look at two xchromosomes right now Almost all of the front page is things complaining about men and very little to do with actual women's topics. Love how some say our sub is a misnomer when their own ""women's issues"" sub has very little to nothing to do with actual women's issues and mostly about men. I see the description "a sub intended for women's perspectives" but the description on our sub also reads "At t…
/r/MensRights17/09/23 12:15 AM
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I don't know that the right to talk shit about another gender is really what we should be fighting for. No, that's not what I'm saying but just serves as an example of how absolute clownshoes things have become. They should be better. It's a bad look and it isn't gaining them followers, it has garnered a lot of opposition to feminism. Don't disagree there Perhaps this is where we need to talk man to man about sensitive topics that aren't hate speech or wrong in any way, Sure, agreed there. I wil…
/r/MensRights16/09/23 04:16 AM
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Men of Reddit lost MGTOW because it did not focus on Men Going Their Own Way. We were not responsible with it. We did not show the world the best that men can be. This is on us to do better, guys. We owe it to each other to be acting to the highest caliber that we can. Meanwhile on Two X Chromosomes... Like 1 to 2/3rds of that sub is just sexist things towards men and demonizing them and that's allowed to stay up. I get ya about pursuing your own goals and dreams but doing what one can to stop t…
/r/MensRights16/09/23 02:36 AM
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I love how they are complete anarcho capitalists and advocates of the free market when it come to the dating market but turn to compelete socialists when it comes to discussing equal hire and pay. Guess what, that's how the free market they advocate so much works. 90%+ of workplace deaths are men. Why does it surprise them when an employer would rather hire the gender that is 90% more likely to literally die for their job? Or the gender that can lift twice more on average in construction labor j…
/r/MensRights15/09/23 07:50 AM
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Got kissed forcibly at a movie theater once and another time at a party. In college, an old lady at a bar slapped my ass. Had a drunk one lick my ear/neck from the backseat of a car. Had a girl that sat behind me in junior high that would play with my hair all day and kick at my feet repeatedly trying to play footsies. It was obvious that I wasn't interested and wasn't engaging back. This went on for weeks. Eventually I turned around annoyed and told her "can you stop?" and one of her friends sa…
/r/MensRights15/09/23 05:45 AM
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Source: trust me
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 02:41 AM
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Yet who comes when you call 911, fights in wars, puts out wildfires, deals with hazardous materials, rescues people in natural disasters, works in the scorching sun/freezing cold restoring the power grid etc. Men die daily policing other men who do bad things. I've never once in my life seen a woman stand up to another woman verbally or physically abusing a man or a boy. Y'all do nothing to police your own
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/23 05:29 AM
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no one is forcing you to date/interact with them. so what is your issue ? if seeing these people in public causes you so muh distress that you have to go online and spread anger, you have issues. so genuinely, what is the issue with these people just existing ? Haha good one. By your choice of people being made fun of, it sounds like you're saying just men do this. Tell that to these women that go around filming and publicly shaming men when they can simply just choose not to date them as shown …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 08:45 AM
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You know what gives me the ick? Obese women in short shorts and thongs *ba-dum-tss*. Of course women are conditioned to believe my comment is indicative of hating all women and being a sexist while they watch other women having a field day filming and shaming random men for things like holding an umbrella in the rain and don't accuse them of the same thing 🤷‍♂️.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 05:52 AM
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Remember that women have been considered for so long inferior to men, weak, dumb, incapabile, ilogical etc (still are by some) that now the pushback went in the other direction where women appear to have no fault in anything, always have good intentions and never do anything wrong. The discrimination you experience now as men, women have experienced for centuries! You're basically going "yeah! take that guys from the 50s and 1800s!!" to a generation of men that didn't take part in that. Imagine …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 04:56 AM
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I came here to write this but you beat me to it. They also like to try and use the "are you not a real man?can't you take a joke?? It's just us being goofy 🤪" but if we say the slightest jab or joke at women: "ahhh hate speech! Take the sub down! halp national guard! 😭"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 02:38 AM
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she's going to expect you to be a jester and entertain her. This. This so much. The whole "I see a bunch average guys with average to attractive women" trope often conceals well what's really going on. Men that are doing this routine are usually getting little to no return on their efforts besides them stickin around with them. So yes we often see these couple but it doesn't tell the whole story. I know this because I've been one of these guys and got sick of her just asking and never giving bac…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/23 01:15 AM
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High carbon emissions were necessary to achieve the material comforts people enjoy today, irrespective of ideology. While I don't disagree with this, I would say now that the pendulum is swinging the other way and we are seeing the consequences of this development, I would be willing to work towards the transition to a more environmentally protective way to live. I am cognizant that our economic movement is highly dependent on petrol and sudden elimination or harsh legislation would absolutely w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:27 AM
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I can see where you're both coming from. Here's the thing I think he's trying to say. That the left is usually more guilty of this. I've taken a few political tests and usually come out as a left leaning centrist. Due to this I often have disagreements with both left and right folks. Even though I agree slightly more with left wing policies, I have noticed that side more quick to label you or think they know all your beliefs based on one thing. For example if I say I think capitalism has caused …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 03:30 AM
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While I don't agree with OP's post entirely, I will say you can be tall, muscular, handsome, and still be a deadbeat and a scumbag.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:23 PM
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I would trade any of this without hesitation to go back to how things were in the 80s and 90s. You have no idea what you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 11:46 PM
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Damn about time someone said it. Thanks for your honesty.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:51 PM
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Let me tell ya this in a way men hear all the time in a hardcore feminist argument style: There is no legal entity or law making you look like women in tv and magazines. It is not against the law to look the way you look. So it's not something you need to worry about. I know a ton of women that look like you that are happily married. There a ton of women that fall under a "thick" category on onlyfans and they have a millions of subscribers. You need to do some introspection as the problem is cle…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 11:08 PM
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No, had a girl that was in the popular crowd but unattractive in high school who liked me but I rejected her so she turned all her friends on me. They would scream things for across the lunch room "she's too good for you!" "you're ugly". Women can be crazy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:49 PM
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Your entire sample size for this argument is literally based off of one guy - one guy, lmao 😂😂😂. That's like saying because kevin federline knocked up a prime britney, its who we men should all aspire to look and be like. This isn't even in defense of TRP but just the silliness overall of this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 10:19 PM
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👏👏👏 Exactly. Just because I was able to win in the housing market and purchase a home doesn't mean I can't see how much harder it has become obectively to do so. I also don't feel it gives me the right to talk down to others and say it's so easy to do and their situation is entirely because they're lazy bastards. But of course the solution is just to go into /r/realestate and call everyone lazy bastard who is talking about having a hard time affording a home now and actually think I'm helping.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 03:21 AM
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The first article captures a brief snapshot from 2017 in which it was neither one or the other and just for the UK. The one I provided is from all of the EU, 2023, and covers all years from 2015-2022. In which if you saw my second chart for the western world, it shows historically and presently women are still in the lead. The second article reads "7 million men aren't working and not adhering to their gender role. Oh the humanity!" but doesn't cite or cover anything about labor participation ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 09:59 PM
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Of course only men(as usual) are the ones that get the finger pointed at them,cause it's always their fault, despite the fact that there are still more NEET women than there are men as shown here. Here is a worldwide one.. On top of that, assuming we're not observing gender roles anymore either as so many that want to "stomp out the patriarchy" say, why should there be any reason to shame NEET men any more than NEET women? It's not possible for someone to think that men need to be real men while…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 08:05 AM
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Welp, men should be criticized for sending unsolicited dick pics. Absolutely. Not arguing there. While I don't have control over what other guys do but I won't deny that it happens. I also won't resort to childish name calling or gaslight attempting into thinking this isn't real or a one-off thing. Men that do this and cat calling are absolute dumbasses I agree. Women have been taught though that their gender is 100% perfect and any criticism even if constructive is not allowed and will call any…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:27 PM
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So the only reason men have for living is for sex? No, but the prospect of providing for a wife and kids has historically been one of the strongest things that can awaken a man's motivation. This historically has churned out generations of men of willing to work double shift rain or shine in high altitude and other hazardous work conditions. Working non'stop and overtime and be a seemingly unstopabble force of nature. Do single men like this still exist? Sure but not as many as there otherwise w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:31 AM
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Are you shitting me? Is this satire? The misandrism level these days is becoming unparodiable.
/r/MensRights25/06/23 06:47 PM
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it’s that it’s so balls achingly obvious I don’t get why it’s even being discussed that’s not necessarily because women care what other women think. Well it started from me disagreeing with the "women don't care what other women think" when man who has lots of women who approve of him will lead to other women directly or indirectly (subconsciosuly) also approving of him as well. The reverse being true as well. If a lot of girls think a guy is creepy or not dating material, a lot of girls will be…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 12:22 AM
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Wait… so, he’s making them laugh and smile but I can’t understand why he’s funny? I need other women to tell me that? I can’t hear him, but I can hear all these other girls talking about how hot he is? You're missing the point. Or pretending not to see it lol. This is if a ton of other women fancy him. It's not that hard of a concept. Golly. It can be at the bar, a ton of facebook comments and likes from attractive women, the guy at school every girl has a crush on, that guy every girl wants to …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 11:16 PM
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women are all waiting to see what other women are doing women are all waiting to see who to pounce on. See, this is a big stretch. It doesn't work like that. This is a much more subtle and subconscious. Say you're at a bar. There is a guy who is getting all this positive attention from women regardless of his looks. He is in a group women all making them laugh and smile. Then you see a few of those women talking about how hot he is. Then you overhear another girl talking to her friend about hot …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 08:01 PM
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Interest from other women sparks curiousity. What does this guy have? Is he funny? Is he good in bed? This in addition to a guy who is already attractive will make him that much more enticing. But even if that man isn't particulary rich or attractive, the same principle will apply and women are going to want to know what's so great about this guy. This is the first spark that piques their interest and makes him stand out from the crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 06:09 PM
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that’s not necessarily because women care what other women think. Your last point is true but have to disagree on this one. If other women want you, other women are goint to want you too. They are gonna want to see what all the noise is about. The reverese is true too though. If lots of women don't want you or reject you, they are gonna wonder what is wrong with you that other women can see.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/23 04:30 PM
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Lmao. This is embarrassing to read. The difference between how me and you argue is that I actually quote exactly what you said verbatim and refute it in the appropriate context. You take what people say, add inflections to the post that they didn't do, hyperbole, and choose to counter that point instead of what was actually said. literally no one A couple clips and morons is not proof. You said there was no one out there that thinks like this and I refuted it. Of course ya said it's more "online…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/23 02:32 AM
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Do you listen to yourself? Do you have any shred of self-awareness? you're going abroad to get pussy then... I never said you were a passport bro Lmao all you can bring is just more online shit Cause that's the medium we are communicating through duh. How else am I supposed to show you proof of about a point we're arguing? I showed you those women being recorded saying it but since it's a video uploaded to the internet it automatically doesn't count? What kind of stupid logic is this considering…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/23 12:15 AM
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two angry women https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/11qcpwa/how_do_yall_feel_about_the_passport_bros_movement/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=PurplePillDebate&utm_content=t3_14cq7dt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFbGIR6Y-hI Nobody else gives a shit that you're going abroad to get pussy. Literally no one. Point out where I even said I was doing this or I'm a passport bro. You can be calm, rational As you are, throwing out a bunch of ad hominem attacks and getting y…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 01:29 AM
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That being said, posts like yours are straight copium. The shitshow around passport bros are angry women who know they cant compete, and manchildren playing chicken as if its going to magically change anything. Stop constantly going "WOMEN WERE GONNA DO IT! W-W-WERE GOING TO GO ABROAD IF YOU DONT CHANGE YOUR WAYS... ANY DAY NOW! ANY...DAY... pls just change so i dont have to go abroad!" Its fucking ridiculous and pathetic, and a lot of the women here are right to call out this dumb charade becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 09:35 PM
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You do realize that shaming someone doesn't mean that that person actually feels shame right? It's the same as trying to guilt someone. What world do ya live in? Lmao. How many men have yout met irl that were passport bros? I'm willing to bet that number can be counted on one hand and your personal experience is of very limited value when talking about an entire demographic. I'm not even a passport bro but only pointing out how your "I don't care" comment is so see thru lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:30 PM
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undesirable to American women What makes you think this is always the case? What if he's already tried dating multiple american women but finds himself often disappointed. You say you don't care but proceed to use subtle shaming language about their desirability and also insult their intelligence along with their judgment. I'm not even a passport bro but you could have just ended at "I don't care" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 07:09 PM
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I'm ok with being friends with women I was interested in but didn't reciprocate as long as it's an actual friendship. For instance; if all they are going to so is hit me up when they need a favor, dump all their problems on me, cry about their current fling or boyfriend, then that's not an actual friendship. I would cut ties with a male friend too for this reason ; being a person that only hits me up when they need something. Some women think being "friends" is keeping a guy around to extract th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 06:07 PM
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No I don't feel like you were too harsh. However, some your post kinda comes accross as a gaslight attempt at "umad bro?" and this. Just being honest. I haven't provided you anything to lead you to believe that I am besides discussing a topic that is an allowed subject on this sub. While I'm not saying you haven't at made some good points, a lot of it is basically tl;dr man up and move on. This the problem and why people are allowed to get away with toxic behaviors in general. This is why public…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 07:05 PM
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OP's own examples of this phenomenon are people being talked about online, so I'm pretty sure that is what we're talking about. OP here. Ok I don't pull out my cellphone everytime I see this in real life and say "I see you're ragging on men you don't like, can I film you saying that?" and go around randomly filming people. Here is a woman on this thread saying they've done it in real life. She felt comfortable enough to tell the people that thought they might make a good couple to fuck off, ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:54 PM
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OP here. Before engaging in any further discourse, I would like to ask: what did you interpret the word "crucify" to mean in the context of this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/23 05:16 PM
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Yes crucified like Jesus of Nazareth is exactly what I meant *sarcastic laugh*. Yes, it's the right word but it's clearly an idiom. I can see you're asking this in the form of a question instead of going "men have never been exectuted for complaining about attracting obese women - I win argument" which leads me to believe this may be a sincere misunderstanding. Yes, crucify as an idiom can mean "to criticize or ridicule severly". Very well known term in USA. Not sure where you're from. Anyways, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 10:48 PM
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I’d tell those people to fuck off😂 See that's my whole point. You literally just proved this does happen and isn't being fabricated by men terminally online like you said in your other post. Even though you didn't tell the guy directly to fuck off if you told his friends or people he would find out by proximity. You felt comfortable enough to tell other people to fuck off expressing your disgust at the prospect of being with him and even added little "😂" to further highlight how little fucks you…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:46 PM
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Ah the old "touch grass" argument as you yourself type this online.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 09:08 PM
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I don't know, do I? Have I mentioned any of my personal preferences? I can be gay for all you know .This was never the subject matter of the thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:24 PM
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Pointing out a dynamic that is present in society =/= me speaking at all to my own preferences or saying I don't like fat women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 06:38 PM
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Uhhh, you just said it, OP Where I did I even state anything about me not liking fat women or any of my preferences? Begging ya to work on your reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:16 PM
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If you are saying how an individual guy told you these things? If so, that's not what this post is about. This is how women are allowed to speak rudely about men they aren't interested while facing far less social backlash than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 07:11 AM
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This. It's hilarious how many people are deliberately being obtuse and trying to interpret it as me meaning otherwise when they know this is clearly what is meant. Of course since they can't provide a valid counter-argument, they choose to attack strawmen and tilt at windmills. At least it's good entertainment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 04:40 AM
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The same logic applies though. This sub, unlike a lot of places, has some degree of moderation where one has to actually adhere to reality and debate rationally and not just allowed to call everyone incel that you don't agree with. It's probably no surprise there is a male slant in this sub as this is one of the only places where a rational debate is allowed to take place. However, women have pretty much every other platform where they constantly air their grievances for such trivial things like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 03:21 AM
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Still beating on that lil guy I see. He's broken down and in shambles. Which is a shame cause even he could have contributed a better argument than you have.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:51 AM
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Sure sure. Despite the fact that term is centuries old lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:40 AM
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Who says I've even made those complaints in the past or have a desire to do so? Simply pointing out a dynamic that is prevalent which I found amusing and decided to pont out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:38 AM
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Are you saying strawman originated from the manosphere? If that's the case, please tell me you're joking. If not, may god help is all and our educational system.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:24 AM
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Still beating on that strawman eh? Poor little fella, he can't catch a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 01:15 AM
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So I can tell a woman who complains about men mostly using them for sex, or some variation of the same question, while the reverese happens far less with "you're right, next question"(which I'm not disputing) and tell her how she gets to brag about winning the victim olympics now? But I guess only one gender is able to campaign for the victim olympics and not the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/23 12:25 AM
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Why are you unable to communicate effectively? If you meant that, write that. Because the way you write makes you sound like an unhinged lunatic with terrible ideas. Dude, your panties are in a gordian knot right now. You're choosing to interpret something so literally that it makes me wonder if you suffer from some disorder on the spectrum. Your strawman attempt failed so you're now choosing to gaslight unaware of how unhinged you sound yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 11:07 PM
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You're deliberatively being obtuse. It's like someone saying "drivers in Tennessee are the worst, they never signal when changing lanes" and you telling that person on their next trip to Tennessee "why are you driving in Tennessee since you think literally every driver doesn't signal". thanks Glad you acknowledge your strawman :)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:42 PM
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the issue isn’t you complaining about your suiters Who says I've ever even done that? lol (you can check my post history). I just see it with other other men all the time and how they aren't allowed to say anything while women complaining all the time how only subpar men approach. to be perceived morally right and get religiously defensive So anyone who uses a CMV tag is wanting to be morally right and get religiously defensive. You do know this is a debate sub right? This is entirely projection…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 09:38 PM
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how you think literally everyone behaves Nice strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/23 08:51 PM
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I thought you were saying that it is light hearted & fine... Were you meaning the opposite? [Some people think] Virgin shaming men though is totally fine and can be seen as a friendly way to rib on someone and bust their chops. [...but that's not always true] Yes, exactly. It can generally be accepted as a form of friendly ribbing when it can be just as insulting as calling a woman a whore. This needs to change.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 10:24 PM
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USA aka murica
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/23 08:28 PM
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The draft has been intact since 1940 my guy. Men's bodies can be sent off to fight in war anytime the government deems. Millions have been sent off to die this way for decades. Please tell me how we've always had complete bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 09:56 PM
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I'm not doing that at all. On the contrary. I'm commenting how this is usually said under the guise of a lighthearted joke and people think it's ok but can be just as offensive as calling a woman a slut. I agree with what you're saying. Think you misintepreted it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/23 10:57 AM
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Actually they do. The consequences may not be immediately apparent but it is seen as a direct insult and generally frowned upon. I can't call a woman a whore even in jest as I will be seen as a misogynist. However a woman can laugh at a guy's virginity all day and no will give it a second thought and think "that was kinda bitchy of her".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:16 PM
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The difference is though, there's consequences and social backlash for slut shaming a woman in the western world. People saying this will be seen as assholes. Virgin shaming men though is totally fine and can be seen as a friendly way to rib on someone and bust their chops. You can make fun of a guy for being a virgin which basically communicates the message: "Hey, women won't go near you with a ten foot pole but I love ya bro lelelelel". This was very common growing up in my day and virgin men …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 11:04 PM
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In my view it's not healthy to be motivated primarily by your libido. While I would say it's definitely not for me, it's like rocket fuel for most men to have a good wife to come home to. A man in a good relationship will do better than he would have otherwise single. The reverse is true for a bad relationship though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 06:23 AM
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It's crazy to think how much "average" has changed over the last 30 years. Back in the 90s the baseline for average was a girl with a decent face who wasn't overweight i.e "the girl next door" type. Now a girl like that is in the top 30% simply by virtue of not being overweight. Many guys who grew up during this era had this idealized type of woman as the one they would marry. To attain such a woman, all one would need to do is be an average looking guy with a decent job. Today that average woma…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 12:24 AM
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What I mean is I can't just walk into an NFL game and have the whole cheer squad throwing their panties at me or come up to Megan Fox and get a date with her just because I know redpill concepts. Not sure how ya misconstrued that lol. Been a helluva an improvent from where I was though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:01 PM
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Exactly. If it was rubbish and didn't work, it wouldn't have anywhere near the popularity it does. Some say only incels think like this but it's actually these exact concepts that kept me from becoming one. To me, it hasn't been as much about what to do but about what not to do such as being a supplicant fool - cause no woman likes that (niceguys tm anyone?). Also, not being a self-hating man ashamed of your masculinity. Those are the exact things the bluepill has taught us which needs to be und…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 01:16 AM
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Who even says I'm doing that? Your comment just reminded me of that video and found it hilarious 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 09:05 AM
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I don't disbelieve that a woman can overlook a man's height if he has other things going for him or he agrees to be betabux but finding guys of all heights hot...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 08:40 AM
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Just date lol Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 07:35 AM
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I find guys of all heights hot. And I'm not rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:58 AM
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where if you fail to meet a minimum standard in any one key criterion, it is very difficult to compensate by over performance in other areas. Weight definitely ranks far below height. A 6'3 fat guy will have far better luck than a 5'4 ripped guy. If you have height and money, you will get women. This is why I'm saying that weight gain across the entire population didn't drop male attractiveness as much it did women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 06:23 AM
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I disagree. A man's fitness level is only about 25% of his overall scorecard when it comes to his sexual attractiveness while women's is probably 50% or more. A man who's overweight but tall with lots of money will do just fine. A better analogy would be like watching all men put on weight and drop in height like 3-4 inches in height; that would paint a better perspective as to what men are going through. Edit: this is excluding my 600lb life types which will torpedo pretty much anyone, regardle…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 04:12 AM
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Oh yeah I don't live in Cali. I live in Utah. 6 figures goes a long way. Also, Utah is full of Mormons. I've been suggested countless, and I mean countless times to become LDS and date women in that circle. However, here is the thing: I'm not religious. I was brought up very strictly Catholic which probably one of the reasons I always dreamed of a trad wife. Growing up though, I've slowly come to identify as agnostic. It would be very hypocritical of me to join the church and become LDS simply f…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/23 01:24 AM
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I've never once seen a man leave his wife or refuse to date a woman because she doesn't make enough money. If a woman happens to be in a relationship with a man that makes less than her or a stay at home dad, it's typically because they both chose that arrangement. A man will never demand this of a woman though. However, women will quite frequently reject men due to them not meeting her income requirements. That qualifies as an actual ask. You get what I'm saying? I make six figures and find it …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 07:26 AM
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Not sure if you are trying to say they should have motivation enough to work due to the cost of living. If so, that just proves his point even more. If a guy is already working hard to provide for himself so you really think he's gonna work even harder and throw his body in the meatgrinder for his "travel and hobbies"? Like he'd have time to do that first off lol. In the absence of a wife and kids, a lot of guys are just going to do what he needs to do to pay the bills and live life on his terms…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 04:47 AM
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I have never once in my life seen a man leave his wife because she doesn't make as much as him or refuse to date a woman because of that. I don't know what planet you are living on. Any shortening of the gap departing from previous generations is due to women joining office jobs that both genders can do and not because men specifically asking for women to make as much as them. Also, men are still making more on average and I would like to see if you have anything that proves otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/23 03:49 AM
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Ok, I can respect that as far as your opinion; however, I don't see alot of other women being on board with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:09 PM
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Do ya think it would be fair also for men to ask that women make as much as them and carry half of the financial burden?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 10:00 PM
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I don't know about that one, chief. Unattractive women used to have better personalites, but in this day and age, they are just as entitled as their more attractive counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/23 01:56 AM
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if you aren't ready to act like a man (in the old school sense, not the whiny egalitarian "what about MEN's rights" shit), you're gonna get rocked. Ahhh the old school sense, but then everyone here would call that misogynist/toxic masculinity and call these women victims despite being exactly what they asked. However being egalitarian is also considered whiny and unmanly and consequently we should also be ashamed. It seems like the only option for men would be to just take it on the chin and cla…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/23 12:56 AM
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You can at least tell the guy to get off the apps and meet women IRL or go to asia. Instead of this long cope you wrote lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/23 04:33 AM
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Ah interesting. Thanks Edit: Looking at it, they def give off strong fetish model vibes. I think if they really did prefer shorter men, they would have been in a committed relationship with one by now instead of being on OF. Can't say 100%. That being said, I'm all for women encouraging other women in any way to look past height - a variable a man cannot control. To be clear, I'm not saying in a way to force women into being attracted to short men but more for removing the social stigma. This me…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/23 01:03 AM
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Seen it, part of it is a virtue signal by link in bio folks... But the women I've noticed saying this are like 6'3. Can you post some links or examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 11:44 PM
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What caused the rise of women looking for short men ? It went viral in like March of 2021 seemingly over night. What do you think caused this sudden shift ? What shift or trend?? I have never seen this before. Can someone post a few links and prove this is actually real.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/23 10:59 PM
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Interesting but what do you say about those women that go for burn victims, midgets, obese men, and people with other disfigurments? Deep down it's possible she may feel he's lucky to be with her but she's obviously not going to tell him that. Why is it seen as douchey when a guy does it but virtuous the other way around? Not saying I agree with OP but just trying to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/23 08:52 PM
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I'd say modern technology and the internet has completely fried a lot of our brains and dopamine reward circuits. Women are no longer content with one man telling her she's beautiful when she could have thousands of Instagram followers or guys on dating apps tell her the same thing every day. A man is not happy with seeing one woman show him her boobs when he can see thousands and thousands a day in porn and whatever fantasy he's into. It's the same way that fast food and overeating have destroy…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 11:55 PM
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But on the flipside, don't patronize them with disingenuous lines about how great they are and how happy they'll make some other hypothetical person. This. I would say it's probably the worst way to do it to be honest. At that point, not only will the person feel unattractive but also their intelligence might be insulted. Just say you're not interested and wish them the best without all that extra fluff.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/23 10:52 PM
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Yeah those kinds of "friends" are hot garbage. Almost every time also, they can't take it when someone jokes about them in the same way. Can't stand to be around those types too long. The jokes I make to my friends where we give each other shit is over harmless, obviously untrue things. This is exactly how I joke around too. Basically really outlandish things and never anything that has any hint of truth to it. Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 11:24 PM
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As a man, I wish men would stop harassing women in online dating, sending unsolicited dick pics, and not taking rejection gracefully. They have completely ruined it and made into a complete ghost town. I also can't stand the ones that go around trying to police other's masculinity "a real man would xxxx". I consider myself a traditonally masculine guy but supprt other men pursuing and doing whatever the hell they want with their life. Lastly, the way some "friends" are anything but and always lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 08:46 PM
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invalidating male emotions Another vote for this. Why is it so shocking that men who grow up without having any empathy given or modeled for them have trouble displaying or understanding that same emotion i.e toxic masculine behaviors. It's not that we don't like saying or expressing how we feel, it's that we know if we do, no one will care. They'll start saying we're not acting like real men. We'll get this from both men and women. A lifetime of reinforcement of this causes you to simply not op…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/23 07:41 PM
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In recent history, I traveled half way around the world to another country and the guy just ghosted me. Left me there all alone in a foreign place so there’s that That sounds horrible. Seriously, fuck that guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/23 06:54 AM
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because it's seen as a threat and maybe for good cause because if the misogynist and incels had their way the whole world would be like Afghanistan. While I agree that's not how things should be run, I don't believe their misandrists counterparts would do things much differently if they had their way. See all the upvotes and support without the thread being taken down for advocating violence. There's stuff like that there quite frequently and other misandrist places.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/23 03:22 AM
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Woman have literally groped me, coerced me into having sex, abused me, bullied me and society does not give a fuck. This. They rationalize this by saying that them doing these things isn't the same as the reverse as you're the physically superior one but then you're not allowed to use that physical superiority in defense either; making the point entirely moot.
/r/MensRights05/01/23 04:05 AM
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Just because it isn’t in the title doesn’t mean it isn’t in the responses. You'll see it's not in the title in any of those. Duh. Never said that it was, it's in the actual thread. Since you lost that argument, now you're changing the goalpoast to roastie? lmao. Like you also lost the argument about body positivity not actually being about what it states it is. You just keep getting proved wrong over and over lol. For incel, I never said that it was body shaming at any time, and yet you think a …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:31 AM
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There is a lot more body shaming of women on Twitter than the reverse. Lizzo and other obese women are harassed by male politicians and celebrities constantly. Men also frequently mock vaginas on Twitter https://twitter.com/pdakkadakka/status/1606049319932477440?s=46&t=WJ4v25xHFOyZXR0aMC3I6g. Ok...because ya said so? I literally just gave you far more examples than you're providing. Also nowhere do I see the MSM rallying behind any of these tweets like "you go dude!" “Land whale” is being used i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 07:29 AM
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This still doesn't disprove what I said about the body positivity movement being mostly about women. So the word “land whale” is being used on every post Hmmm a simple search of the term "land whale" yields a total of 6 results on this entire sub's history: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/search?q=%22land+whale%22&restrict_sr=on In general women don't need to body shame men on anonymous platforms like reddit because they got the public avenues where they are free to do so. You'll see a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 05:25 AM
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Well it still shouldn't be called "body positivity" if it only serves one demographic. It claims to stand for all body positivity and anti-discrimination but most of it's efforts are around making everyone accept obese women as attractive. Also, as far as provocation, women will name call or body shame men simply because they don't agree with them on an issue. Someone holding a different view than yourself does not count as an attack. As much as I don't agree with Andrew tates views, all he did …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:09 PM
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Yeah but the difference is men don't have an entire movement based around complaining about unrealistic beauty standards and such. If people in the "body positivity" movement actually stood for what they claim to stand for, they would be up in arms about any type of body shaming. However, it should be changed to body positivity for women which would be more appropriate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:41 PM
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who are short Interesting. What is your ideal height? Also, how tall are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 06:49 AM
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If I could turn back the clock, I would have tried to tie the knot with someone in my mid 20s. It's crazy to think how a 24 year old, shitty honda driving, old mobile home park dwelling me could pull more and better looking women than 34 year old nice home having, three car owning, career having me. I wanted to work on myself so I can offer more in a relationship as I read the number one cause for divorce was financial issues and wanted that to be a non-issue in my future marriage. However, I di…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 05:19 AM
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Me, no. Though I can't speak for all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 03:07 AM
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Lmao if you didn't read the rest of the context of what I said and tried to frame it as me saying almost all men have an opinion on other guys who complain. It's clearly a response to her statement and saying that almost all men hold some type of opinion on the topic of responsibility in relation to genders. Most men inherently have some type of opinion, whether it concurs with OP's views or not. It seems you and OP are attempting to separate the ones that hold this opinion from the ones that sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 01:58 AM
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Im talking about men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility Almost all men hold some type of opinion on the topic. Whether he expresses or not. Are you saying most men who hold the opinion that the opposite sex should be more accountable don't believe in accountability themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 03:48 AM
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Ya said "Men who complain about women not taking personal responsibility often don’t believe men should take responsibility for anything" then ya said "I never said it's most men".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/22 02:29 AM
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often I never said most men This doesn't line up. Anyways, there are lots of guys who believe accountability should be on both sides. There already enough men and women (mostly other men) that enforce strong accountability for those things you cited. We have strong laws on child support that will make sure the guy pays if it's his kid which I'm not at all against. There's also enough other guys to tell those guys that arent't getting the women they want to stop being depressed losers, hit the gy…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 11:43 PM
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So you went from "that doesn't exist" to "they don't actually mean it" 😆. Also lmao at ""guywithaccount""
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:17 PM
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Hear about it? I've literally seen it. Regardless of a girls looks, even if she's massively overweight or unnattractive, she will have a ton of other girls telling her she's gorgeous. Just look at pics in a girls FB and see the types of comments other girls post. Seen this quite a bit in person as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 06:08 PM
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Sure but for every one woman that throws out a subtle or snide remark, she also has like 7 or 8 other women telling her she's a 10. While in a group of guys no is going to mince words and your entire group could potentially call you a fatass on the daily. No one is going to tell you are 10 or handsome even if you actually are. Again, not condoning it, but just explaining the stark contrast between men and women's experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/22 07:16 AM
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Yes, but it's not actually enforced by other women or anyone for that matter. Sure there are magazines and IGs that show models and such but that's true for men as well. With men, self improvement is harshly enforced. Even within a group of friends a guy who is quite overweight is going to get clowned on quite a bit for his weight in alot of male circles. God help him if he says something along the lines of "I'm beautiful the way I am or I am a perfect 10" lol. This is something that is not pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 07:54 PM
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Yes, it gets more granular. However, before many even begin to look at those little things, each ensure make sure they pass their big tests first. For example, some women won't even bother to look at a guy's profile for compatibility if he doesn't meet their height or income requirements first. The same is true for men and women's weight. There are some universal traits that will help or hurt each's chances tremendously regardless of how compatible they are and many are disqualified immediately …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/22 07:23 AM
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Not saying it's justified or it excuses their behavior. I guess the question is, when did they treat you poorly? was it when you turned them down? during the relationship? etc
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 11:27 PM
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I think it's honestly because they have more chances which cushion the blow quite a bit. Whereas less attractive men knows they just blew it and know they are going to go back to searching for awhile.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:57 AM
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Well I'd say I'm probably around a 7 out of 10. Around women that are 7-8s I need to be on the ball with my body language, jokes, and overall demeanor. One dumb thing or joke can completely sink me. I find that with women that are 4-5s I can say the dumbest or lamest jokes and they will laugh at them like I'm Dave Chapelle. This is assuming of course the woman was already showing a little interest. I would imagine guys that are 9-10s get more opportunities to be awkward around 7-8s . While perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/22 01:42 AM
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men are the victims of male violence more frequently than women This. It bothers me when a woman somehow thinks it's completely safe to be a man. Like I can walk around a bad neighborhood at night going "ta da da da da can't touch this".. I grew up in a rough part of east L.A and I can assure you I had no such privilege.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 03:23 AM
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Exactly this. Women have a quality problem. Men have a quantity and a quality problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/22 07:48 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:52 PM
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This is what I've always thought for the most part. Nobody owes anyone attraction. The thing I've always been against though, is that women have their standards - but men not being allowed to have theirs. Them having standards =/= misandrism anymore than me having mine =/= misogyny. There was once a post here about how if there are filters for height, income, age etc, why can't we have filter for weight? A bunch of women and white knight men were getting salty, doing mental gymnastics, and resor…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 09:14 PM
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Exactly. Not matter how polite you say it, an overwhelming majority of the time it will devolve into childish name-calling and downvoting. Yet women get away with posting things like this. Can you imagine if the reverse were true and someone made a meme with a short or broke guy in it implying the women that don't date him must have small tits or other body part. Women would be up in arms saying they are being denied autonomy. Women can get away with it far more than men. I also don't buy that o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 02:11 AM
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Also me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 01:10 AM
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"I wouldn't wear that blouse tomorrow. I would hate for you to walk around all day feeling insecure." The message "you look fat and disgusting" gets across both times. Women are so sensitive about weight, I don't think I've ever heard a girl say this to another girl. While I may not completely agree, I respect you actually responding with something. Men are about as fat as women, so. I don't think women make excuses any more than men. They certainly diet way more than men do. There's def a lot o…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 11:26 PM
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Strawmanning. Another classic response. I never rubbished empathy. I'm saying women get nothing but empathy and near zero accountability and men get nothing but accountability but near zero empathy. This is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:55 PM
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Women definitely hold each other accountable, but they do it in different and sometimes even unspoken ways—ways that men might not pick up on Women say this but everytime I ask for examples on how they do it, they usually just name-call or downvote. Please elaborate. Men are the ones who need to hear "You fatass, get to the gym" Why is the only for men though? You get women who dish out excuse after excuse on not ever setting foot in a gym. "Oh I'm insecure, people will laugh at me blah blah". G…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 10:37 PM
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Finally, he reaches a point where he has something resembling a normal dating life. He has had to change himself fundamentally and in some cases very uncomfortably to do this, but is no longer living a dark lonely confused existence. And guess what, he gets shamed for it and called a "mysognist" a "predator" a "fake", etc and the very people that led him to near emotional ruin in his early years attempts to gaslight him yet again in adulthood. But this time, finally, he doesn't listen to them. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 09:10 AM
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Frankly, even without that, it's a highly invasive change and most people automatically oppose highly invasive changes, unless they think the benefit is worth it. Ummm yeah they are worth it cause I have nothing to hide. The ones that don't like it can go to another dating app. It's a free market and country. Don't like it, don't join. I think you're vastly overestimating the amount of men that would not like the idea of such an app.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/22 07:19 AM
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That doesn't constitute as proof. Show me an actual thread where a bunch of dudes on reddit are doing that and all agreeing and upvoting each other. I'll wait. Also, If you actually read the article, you'll notice the word "red pill" is not even mentioned once.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 04:30 AM
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many of the men in those groups were celebrating what he did. I don't believe that's true. Can ya prove that?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/22 03:55 AM
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Sure but why are women still allowed to freely complain about their dating lives and blame men without ever being pointed back to their own responsibility? A man literally complains about anything and he's just shut down with "stfu incel" but when a woman complains, "oh yeah all men are shallow. You're a 10 girl! I dunno why they wouldn't want an amazing girl like you". Either we need to be empathetic and understanding to both or have the bootstraps talk with both. This is supposed to be the 202…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:54 AM
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They feel entitled to a woman's love "the way they are" instead of seeing that EVERYBODY needs to better themselves in order to be presentable as a partner. It's called being a capable adult. This is the entire principle in which the body positivity movement was founded. Yet when women do it, it's not called entitlement. Which it is. Never have I seen a woman show up to tell those other women to take some accountability. Both women and men hold men accountable. No one does for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/22 02:39 AM
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If you think a random woman deserved to be hurt He never said this. Nice strawman fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/22 06:12 AM
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An attractive man will get sex and relationships while an attractive woman will get casual sex, relationships, protection, favors, rides, money, housing etc. As far as getting anything they want, a woman still retains a massive advantage here. Yes, if you're Jason Momoa. Their fame also plays a huge role. I know a lot of hot girl's boyfriends who other women still find ugly. For example, I knew a girl who was really fit and attractive who had a tall muscular boyfriend. Her equally hot best frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 07:22 PM
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👏👏👏 Exactly. Notice how none of these actions are subtracting from women's rights. This is what most men's rights advocates are fighting for. Yet the misandrist always try to get everyone to misreprent this as hating women in which it has zero equivalence or relation. Thank you again.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 05:04 AM
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Here's some things I disagree with >arent harassed by non-attractive women, Actually they do. I've seen it with some dudes. Attractive men are the only ones that can get what they want instantly I've never seen a woman buy a man a drink just cause he's good looking or anyone give him anything solely for that reason 2. Its still common practice that men initiate the conversation. As a men you therefore have the power to choose who you decide to approach and potentially spend time with. It's harde…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 04:30 AM
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"lying" You think it's lying by using non-aggressive language vs aggressive? That's why I said it with a quote and quote. Implying that's it's not actually lying. In the same way that you don't tell everyone 100% what's on your mind. You can can feel nervous but push through it and project a confident frame. I gotta say I strongly disagree with your last statement or that women actually would be attracted to such a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 03:14 AM
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At the same time, if you really do feel way, you'd be "lying" by not saying what you really think. In the same way that if you're nerves are shot on a date you don't want to tell them that as almost no woman is going to find a weak insecure man attractive. In an ideal world it be nice wouldn't it? But we don't live in an ideal world
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 02:07 AM
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I think there are things that objectively succeed more either in dating, business, or other endeavors. If you're at your job, you're not going to tell your boss you think he's bag of dicks and you're starting to hate your job. You'll be unemployed and living in your car but hey I mean at least you were honest 👍. That doesn't mean lying your ass off either saying you can do all your team members work at the same time. It's just knowing how to present yourself. But you do you man.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:51 AM
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I'm actually not sure we disagree. I would rather be honest 100%. Of course we're talking about what works and what doesn't. This is not about what I would prefer. Also getting laid and being in an LTR are two completely different things and not sure which one you're thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:35 AM
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Well it's just like a job interview. You don't want to tell them you have two masters degrees if you really don't. The truth is eventually going to come out. But you have to act and say things that the majority of women generally like to hear and see in the same way as employers do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 01:09 AM
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Exactly. It's not even like that though. It's more like "stop being a depressed loser!" "go to the gym you lazy fuck" "stop being so ENTITLED" "only incels write these posts" "but I'm trying to help you bro". Yet these feminists and wannabe stg.hartman accountability police never show up in women's threads complaining about their weight and shit that's entirely in their control. Some of these men are already doing a lot of these things and find no other choice but to lower their standards to jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/22 12:26 AM
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This. I mean he's right in the sense that there is specific stuff they want to hear and just telling someone to be themselves is generally bad advice. Especially if they have some traits and things women generally don't find attractive. However, it sure as hell ain't no mushy romantic stuff. Especially in the beginning of the relationship. If he has, more power to him. But I'm extremely skeptical of OP's success with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/22 11:28 PM
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and are likely to be equal to or even surpass men socio-economically on this trajectory False. Even with degrees 72% of six-figure earners are still men. We know that women have deeper social connections that men generally don’t have. I'll give you that one. On average. The physical superiority is obsolete as mental labor is more important than physical labor, and being jacked is not actually going to help a man protect you from any threat in the modern world. Heavy box? piece of furniture? tigh…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/22 06:47 AM
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Talking to the person loudly, so that there are more eyes on the situation can also work. There are also all sorts of de-escalation techniques a person can employ. Talking to a hostile person loudly will often escalate things further. The truth is a woman has much more leeway to do this as she far less likely to have to back up what she says physically. A man yelling at another man who is already hot headed will quite often lead to a physical confrontation. A woman yelling at a man in public wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 05:40 AM
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Yes protector doesn't have to always be physical. However, have you lived such a sheltered life that you don't know that verbal confrontations can and often do lead to physical ones with strangers? I don't see how you were not able to make that connection. While men cause more of the problems that you mentioned, men also do more to police those exact same men. 85% of people in law enforcement are men. If you are jogging in a park and you accuse a man of grabbing your ass, that man is going to ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/22 03:13 AM
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I only said gender roles cause if you think this is only men's responsibility, then you believe in gender roles of men having to be protectors of everyone. Which is outdated, am I right? I also take it if you believe that, then women need to also stop the excuses for not standing up to other women when abusing a man? Sorry you don’t have friends like that. Actually I do. As far as strangers, I've seen men stand up to other men to defend women. I've seen women stand up to other men to defend wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 11:45 PM
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What excuses though? Don't tell me you actually believe in those outdated gender roles. I assume if this is true, it's women's duty as well to stand up for a man being physically or verbally assaulted by another woman? Maybe just telling her that her sexist jokes aren't cool either. How about not looking the other way? There are a thousand little things they can do as well to support men that don’t require going to jail either but I have yet to ever see one instance of it irl.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 07:29 AM
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If there is a man harassing me, other men don't help. Expressing dissatisfaction or annoyance about something is the definition of complaining. I believe that men are predators and women are responsible for defending and protecting themselves against said predators. You dodged my question again by just making a generalization about men instead of responding to it. You're not making any sense. Just another one of these convos where you refuse to acknowledge your blatant hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:42 AM
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If there is a man harassing me, other men don't help. They pretend not to see what's happening Your wait is over. Stay on topic. If you want to make a thread about men being attacked by women in public spaces, you're free to do so. Women attacking men isn't relevant to this conversation. It is 100% relevant. Why would one gender be forced or pressured into risking their safety for one gender but the reverse not be true?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 05:07 AM
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Read the thread comments. No where did I say that men HAD to help or intervene. But yet you're complaining that they aren't. If they are partaking in it themselves, I'm against it. However, as long as they are not involved in any way, they don't have to treat you like you're their gf, sister or mom. Go talk to the security of the venue. Asking a complete stranger to risk life and limb for you sounds quite a bit like entitlement. Whereas women are more likely to intervene, assist, call out the ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/22 04:46 AM
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This is probably my favorite. Women complain "b-b-but what about those girls that are born ugly and can't get by on their looks?? oh the humanity!". Guess what, that's the default mode for every man. No is going to give you anything for the way you are born or look. You need to provide value in some form. As soon as you stop doing that, you are discarded.
/r/MensRights04/10/22 05:31 AM
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https://ncfm.org/know-the-issues/mens-rights-issues/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsZ7M5PVAAAUhWD?format=jpg&name=4096x4096 I'll leave you with the advice to please learn how to use google, websters, the "about" section on subs, and pursue a higher education from where you're at now. At this rate, I'm acting like your personal tutor for zero compensation lol. I'm done, bye.
/r/MensRights26/09/22 05:56 AM
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I literally took your “men’s right issue” at face value and demonstrated how it was nonsense. A position no one was pushing as a legal matter to begin with i.e you strawmanning lol Are you saying men’s rights extend over what women do? I think you might need to have a better understanding what what “rights” mean. Again there was no strawman, right? you are just massively entitled whiny babies. You dweebs don’t realize most of the women are bots in there to take your money set up by other greedy …
/r/MensRights26/09/22 12:28 AM
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Lose argument Have a meltdown and resort to strawman and ad hominem like clockwork
/r/MensRights25/09/22 07:25 PM
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At the most basic level, men's rights are the legal rights that are granted to men. However, any issue that pertains to men's relationship to society is also a topic suitable for this subreddit. I can see you never get tired of being wrong lmao
/r/MensRights25/09/22 06:46 AM
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Women cannot be for body positivity and at the same time demand men to have "6pack" and be "6feet". This hypocritical shit is infuriating. If she demands him to have 6 pack, which is hard to get and requires sacrifices, she must mandatory be fit herself. And she has no right to demand him to be 6 feet, because height unlike weight cannot be controlled. 👏👏👏
/r/MensRights24/09/22 06:47 PM
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So if having a weight filter = shaming, having a height filter = ???.
/r/MensRights24/09/22 05:44 PM
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Because men have to list stuff women want to calibrate by but vice versa is banned? He's already clearly explained it to you. If they had a weight filter too though, couldn't they leave it blank? Are you saying men’s rights extend over what women do? Having a filter does not equal women having to do anything and your attempt to form such a strawman argument is weak. If you're going to be deliberately obtuse and ask the same damn question again and form another strawman argument after this, it's …
/r/MensRights24/09/22 05:29 PM
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Their only counter-argument to that will be that some guys 60-70 years ago were oppressive to women and now you deserve to suffer even though you literally had nothing to do with that oppression or those times.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 06:04 AM
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No prob. It's all good.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 01:05 AM
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What I'm saying though is men have much more to do to attract the opposite sex and just having looks isn't going to do much for them. Men also have to worry about height(which they have zero control over mostly), money, nice house/car, status, confidence etc and the industries that revolve around it which was my response to your statement.
/r/MensRights19/09/22 12:46 AM
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men shouldn’t be blamed for women doing plastic surgery or any of the other things mentioned. Then what was the purpose of you bringing up "There isn’t a billion dollar beauty industry for men to buy makeup, hair removal and expensive hair salon visits. At this point we’re not even living in reality" in response to this post? You're basically saying men don't have a billion dollar industry for beauty products and we don't have to worry about beauty as much as women. In which I respond that women…
/r/MensRights19/09/22 12:05 AM
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I ask, when did men ever make or force women to wear make-up against their will?. That's something they chose and continue to do on their own accord to stand from the competition. There also isn't a billion (or trillion dollar maybe) industry to buy nice homes, sports cars, rolexes, etc for women to impress men. Don't really get what your point is.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 10:24 PM
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Duh. The only part I don't like is the denial that it exists while shaming men for their own preferences. Every time it's "I know a guy that's 4'3 that bags models all day, the problem is you". By that same token, I also know some obese women that have attractive husbands like here. An STFU to stop making excuses is only given to one side and not the other when it's blatantly obvious it's a factor for both.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 09:25 PM
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Imagine what type of reaction #effyourheightstandards where we have a bunch of short guys lined up. Beauty at every height. Everyone would laugh despite women doing the same thing for the last decade on something they can totally change.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 09:00 PM
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Yeah, IF you initiated it first. It can't be painted as any more or less of what a physical reaction can be. For instance someone can paint you simply trying to restraining them as "he tried to rape or smother me" while the pepper spray is just that pepper spray. Nothing more nothing less. Makes things a lot less muddled and works in your favor.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:29 PM
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To everyone reading this, I think a good tool to use in these scenarios is pepper spray. If I'm every getting assaulted by a woman, any physical defense on my part has the potential to be painted to the jury as disproportionate use of force. Warning them first if possible and if they don't stop what they are doing, use it. I think it would help in your defense as you technically never put your hands on her using your male strength, you only used what was needed to stop the attack.
/r/MensRights18/09/22 08:03 PM
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I'd say what in the hell difference does it make who holds seats in power such as man, woman, space alien, etc when the system itself and its laws created are slanted towards and catered towards women? Men receive 63% more time for the same crime compared to women Only 1 in 6 child custodies are granted to the father 1 in 4 men have experienced rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner but for victims of domestic violence, there are 2000+ shelters for women and 2 for men 1 in 6…
/r/MensRights17/09/22 07:48 PM
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men are the real and true proponents of any and all women's rights This. The problem is even men hate men. Women have been able to use this much to their advantage as they believe maybe even on a subconscious level that hurting or disenfranchising another man means less competition and the woman they are white knighting for will sleep with them. Any even mere mention on the existence of misandry or telling them to stop being sexist towards men and a strawman argument will be formed on how you be…
/r/MensRights15/09/22 05:55 AM
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