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DebateHaej07/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:02 AM
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Question For WomenHaej07/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:50 PM
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Question For WomenHaej07/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 12:50 PM
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Thanks I won’t have to give her a caveat of why I’m gifting her though, I do it often enough that she wouldn’t even ask. It might as well just be another Tuesday for her. Also for me to be doing to her to spit you, I’d have to care what you think and hope this action affects you, I don’t. I’m simply just grateful I don’t have to deal with the chaos from somebody in my everyday life and I’m going to take the chance to celebrate it and be happy about it in my personal life. It’s not even a dig at …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 07:26 AM
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I really don’t care what you think about men. I don’t think you need one and I think you should avoid them for both you and their sake. It doesn’t bother me to hear that think it, etc. this actually increased my gratitude and has motivated me to surprise my partner with a gift this weekend. Triple win here, thanks for playing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:23 AM
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This is like the fourth time you’ve informed me that you’re single. I literally could not care less. If you read any comment I’ve made I never asked you one time what your relationship status was 🫵🤣. I never even made a guess at it because I quite literally could not care. You’re hoping to run into people as lonely as you and it’s comedic thag you keep insisting on trying to make me one of those ppl in a sea of those ppl because you got dunked on. Unironically going with “Your mad” out of cope i…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 04:06 AM
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Nobody is bothered by you or about you. You’re clinging to this narrative because you need it to be viable so you feel like you have a defense from the fact that you got exposed for sounding like a femcel. I already stated that I didn’t necessarily agree with the guy. Let me offer you a scenario I see you can’t consider: What if I’m happily with somebody and easily see how women bring value and I could myself of the top of my head give that commenter 10 reasons minimum why women are just as valu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 12:36 AM
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The answer is not self evident, especially in debates. All women are different and some literally are not worth dating (vice versa). I hope that doesn’t blow your mind. This isn’t a space where all men have the same opinion either so it’s not necessarily a: debate space in which men are complaining that women won’t date then Women complain too. Actually I don’t even visit this space often but for years now one of the most active and repeated posters of content in this sub is a woman… I know all …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:44 PM
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I read the thread and I’ve already clarified my love of questioning and my intent. I never took anything as a personal attack you literally keep addressing me asking me why I can’t understand and calling me angry. I’m not invested that much. I just asked why you didn’t respond to the question. I read what he said and I didn’t agree with all of it. You still avoided his questing in a ‘debate space’ that was very clear. I didn’t ask why YOU won’t date, it’s not relevant to the debate question aske…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:23 PM
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You keep trying to insist I’m angry or some sort snd deflecting, this is already over. Nobody is misunderstanding you and nobody is upset. I don’t care if you ever date anybody. I wouldn’t suggest a woman date you off the fact that you sound like a bitter femcel with a gender bias. It has nothing to do with “Me man, Ahhhh!!” Thats just being a woman who has learned who has lived and learned lessons This makes you sound bitter and like you missed the therapy train. The men did not collectively in…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:05 PM
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I am telling you telling you straight up that if a man is not going to put any effort into dating— Didn’t inquire anything about that I don’t have an answer to the question KD the value of man brings the whole point Gotcha so you acted like I couldn’t read and you are completely off topic and already gave a scenario doing the exact things (listing a bunch of desired qualities or actions) But what is also undeniably clear is that men was a woman in their life So you just juxtaposed yourself to al…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 11:01 AM
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You have women who are fine not dating anyone at all because a man can be nothing more than a complete drain of time and energy. So this works both ways, you really just said nothing and once again proceeded not to answer the question. Unless of course you yourself were choosing to limit it to sex.. It has nothing to do with whether or not you pay I guess you overlooked the etcetera because I wasn’t stuck on money I was repeating your own qualifications back to you, which should have showed that…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:02 AM
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Cool thanks for the downvote, I didn’t question all of that because I read it. He asked what would be the same general expectation from the other side. You didn’t answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:36 AM
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This was a deflection to what he said though isn’t it? Because the benefit of the man’s company was established with him needing to spend money etc. In no way did you respond to his question
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 01:34 PM
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Bachelors/men get called losers for not having success. Men tend not to marry unreasonable women, that’s just a fact it’s not a boogie man
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:02 AM
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Which would again mean they can not get relationships with men who meet their standards but they are still having relationships….. so are they lying about the relationships and they don’t qualify? Or are they getting into relationships with men who aren’t up to their standard? The idea of waiting only for a man up to your standards would lean towards and abstinence-like strategy no? If that’s the case why are women intentionally fighting any part of that stigma?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:01 AM
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I’m not strawmanning. You said this as if it were abundant And then you proceeded to list the qualifiers. If somebody does not look attractive enough to kiss odds are that person finds them ugly. You listed good person as part of your good personality qualifier. If good person was not apart of it I miss understood but the opposite of a good person would be a terrible one or a not good one. What is factual is that relationships ARE abundant for women. Their strategies, talk of experiences and eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 02:49 AM
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This implies that many women haven’t/do not have good relationships between 21-34 so then the question would be why participate so much in dating or enter so relationships if you are only coming into contact with ‘ugly or terrible people’ doesn’t that mean you are settling by default?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:08 AM
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As if men care about sad single cat ladies Single cat lady archetype is actually typically relegated to somebody who would generally be considered unreasonable and likely mentally unstable. More recently a resentment to men has been tied to this stereotype due to the lack of success of retaining relationships. Single cat lady is more of a warning/caution label not necessarily that men inherently care nothing for these women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 12:05 AM
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This implies that women only ever date men that meet their standards and if that was the case why every change or get a new one? If you the opportunity to have your dream car you probably wouldn’t have 5 cars in 7 years after that. You probably wouldn’t be taking Ubers or browsing dealerships. Same thing with if you had a dream home and it met all your standards, you are less likely to move. Women are dating much more commonly for fun and it’s slightly naive and at the same time a toxic cope to …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 11:51 PM
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Then I ask you to please hold off, and allow free participation from the women. This post is not the argument, It is one of several that is collecting/polling before the discussion is had
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:41 PM
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You’ve asked me on both, helped me provide even better framing AND have contributed both times. You’re a gem and I am very much valuing your feedback. But I must still point out that your peers did not ask nor did they express confusion or difficulty finding an answer to this prompt. So my conclusion for this is: While I am your feedback and will strongly consider it due to you being so helpful in general. It seems while you were the only person to bring this up, you were also still smart enough…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:35 PM
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Thank you but I’m asking for your perspective as a woman, this question will be asked to men of this sub. What do you as a woman identify the characteristics to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:32 PM
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Please do not provide inappropriate commentary or judgement towards people answering the question
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:17 PM
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That was an early presumption of mine as well, but I’m still curious to see who participates more. I also understand that but I have to disagree that my post isn’t well written because not one time this post was I asked to provide clarity this time around
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:15 PM
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I will be glad to when I ask the men but it is not my turn now. May I ask you what makes a woman undesirable or what do you think the consensus is? Do you have any archetypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:11 PM
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I don’t think I’ve compromised the control yet, because people seem to not only be participating much more but they are providing examples of what they think makes a man a bad partner (cheating etc). I also have not been attacked or deemed non social or told that I need therapy simply for asking a question this time around lol. I wish I was able to ask the archetype question earlier but I don’t think I would have received many from women based on the fact that not as many were willing to partici…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:54 PM
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Why are you so bothered about what a married woman thinks? If you’re a gym bro keep your ass I’m the gym. Nothing about her opinion should have set your off or had you diving into her personal life. I didn’t ask who she was or what qualifies for an opinion. Please be nicer
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:51 PM
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She’s free to have any preference she likes, it’s kit about whether she’s somebody else’s type. That was an unnecessary thing to say
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:50 PM
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It’s not really impossible when you see similarities in some answers, it helps form a consensus. Thanks for your answer!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 07:48 PM
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You go on to personally attack me after saying this lmao. You can see every other thread I have not responded anywhere close to this. But this response was not necessary, you didn’t expand on anything or contribute anything by writing this. Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:56 PM
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You haven’t been around people much, I can tell. You couldn’t tell a thing, I’m well liked, easily make friends and am constantly invited to events and just to socialize, I’m not even single nor have I been for years. You just went out of your way to project onto me for absolutely no reason, so why is that? What offended you? negative traits don’t always show immediately Nobody disputed that ever on this post. Thank you for the common sense though. You can’t universally say fat men are bad partn…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 03:53 PM
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You keep doing this thing where you make the accusation that I think this is a conflict and that you are in no way talking to me, just about the prompt and then you say things like “I was misled by the way you’ve set up the post”. I am engaging pretty civilly and only asking follow up questions mostly. I’m providing extra examples, and further context and I even just address that the only reason I explicitly addressed your earlier comment the way I did is because I’m trying to avoid undermining …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:28 PM
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In my opinion a criminal history does not automatically make you bad and I do think this is an interesting perspective. I would have the thought that most laws have a consensus of being preventative of wrong doing. I would say people typically tend to think of severe crimes and notice them more which also shows a willingness to overstep a boundary(a crime being society’s boundary), potentially incite harm, or it could simply be engage in actions that can be of consequence to themselves or others…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:11 PM
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I personally am never expecting a woman to pay on the first date, but I’m definitely looking for her to offer within the first 3
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:03 PM
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What do you believe that is? Could you provide an example or list characteristics?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:02 PM
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I’m not viewing this as an argument. You are free to find to find anything interesting. I however am addressing that you assigned me a belief that is incorrect. It didn’t upset me etc, however I do think it will undermine the integrity of the post if somebody were to assume that I “understand a bad person to mean not a good potential partner and assume everyone else makes the same connection” “Lesser people have their own matches” was not part of this post at all and should be assumed common sen…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:00 PM
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I have given multiple examples that are based on general assumptions. If none of those make sense I’m not sure where else I can help you along. Society has perceptions and views on people based on characteristics, it is this way because enough people agree. It doesn’t mean you have to agree with it, but it exists nevertheless
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:22 PM
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You know what I asked but you’re choosing not to participate? I’ve pointed out the examples to show that this isn’t necessarily an assessment of somebody’s humanity. So why the deflection?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:19 PM
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So are you indicating that you just stop reading at titles? Clearly a title does not provide all nuance. Would it be level-headed to assume that is reasonable level of knowledge for one to have? “What makes a woman a bad woman” nobody projected anything onto you, I’m holding you to your own accusations and how you did everything but answer the question. I even furthered your own dialogue to which I see you have nothing of substance to say about it. Which ultimately means you dropped off a cheap …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:17 PM
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To claim that I’m asking for one to be “made” would mean you’re of the position that is none. Is that correct? If that is the case why do you believe that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:10 PM
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It’s interesting that you understand a bad person to mean not a good potential partner This is honestly the most aggravating part of this sub. I went out of my way to give context and support the structure in which I asked the question and in no way did I ever say that so why address me in such a manner? That is not solely what I think makes a person good or bad. Never did I explicitly state that and for you to take a shot like that is kind of weird (whether it was unintended or not you just pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:57 PM
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Both if you don’t mind. Are those separate to you and if so why? Is it also separate to you when you think of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:38 PM
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I mean in general what does it usually take for you to deem a woman a bad, unsuitable woman. We have the stereotypes of computer gamers, McDonald’s cashier, fat basement dweller etc for men. What is the female equivalent of those things? What are some things universally agreed upon to be something that disqualifies a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:36 PM
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I see, but I asked for a definition closer to what would be agreed to universally, not what subjectively you would identify as such. Thank you for participating either way! Also I must apologize if I asked something that was frequently asked, I can not say that I frequently participate in this sub. Just occasionally I read things here and there and watch the discussion, I may have missed this as a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:33 PM
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Though I agree, with most of what you said. I would also like to expand the dialogue and say that I think that as a man, even though I never have or will date a man I can still identify traits that would make a man a ‘loser’. Like there are certain guys that can describe themselves or that I can hear talk about relationships and regardless of them outright stating it I can see why they struggle to find success. For example: If a guy was less say 28, working part time at for minimum wage and owne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:24 PM
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While I do agree that a good woman is willing to split the bill I don’t believe that it’s as black & white as any woman expecting you to pay the bill on the date is not a good woman. I think social media conditioning has taken quite a few out of the loop of reasonable dating expectations but they aren’t quite extreme nor would they make bad partners. They just may refuse to pay for a first date or dates
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:13 PM
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My you wasn’t aimed personally it was more of a you (anybody that find’s indiscriminate swiping legitimate). While I can empathize with the male dating struggle even though I’m taken sheerly due to the treatment of men currently, it is critical for men themselves to understand and change the narrative around their perception. You think there’s going to be a mass collective action by the most atomized group of young men Honestly, all I can do is hope because that’s what needs to happen. Men can n…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 04:37 AM
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You guys want to worry too much about being the sole remaining option of their desperation that you can’t look past your nose to consider that maybe they don’t like being single either. Indiscriminately swiping is enabling the same egos you guys complain about but the important part about that being pointed out is that’s the part you can control. You guys lost the plot and forgot the importance is truly to just land one great one, because secretly you consider ‘success’ to be multitudes of optio…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 01:34 AM
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I don’t give a damn what you think. You responded to me with some dumbass feelings and if you could read and comprehend you’d realize the ‘direct question’ is about .04% people at best. Fuck are you talking about? I didn’t jump up and down about shit. Her point was moot several posts ago. You clearly lost the plot responding to this instead of the researched articles and various post that proved the question was pointless. You also skipped various TL;DRs meant to help you 4 second attention span…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:03 AM
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And you’re a fool because anything you eat has a chance to be poison. You predicated you’re entire argument on a made up 3% that didn’t exist. Anything in your fridge likely has a less than 1% chance to be poison so go throw everything away and remake it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:38 AM
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You’re standing on nothing you keep asking this question despite the fact there’s zero substantiation behind it. I’m thinking you’re having a hard time comprehending this conversation. Yes, and I wouldn’t think twice about it (the candy isn’t tainted, statistically there’s no poison I wouldn’t have an irrational fear that it is)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 01:17 AM
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And what I’m telling you it is almost statistically impossible for 3 of the candies to be poisoned in said bowl and if ONE was it’d be an exceptional case that would not be indicative of the quality of all of the other candies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 10:02 PM
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I don’t have to, I consume handfuls of candy in real life and eat food/goods prepared by other just like you do. We both live a yes. You don’t handmade anything which means you’re just as likely to eat tampered food (actually way more) than whatever you want to go on about. You fear mongering crime is meaningless if you go out in public spaces because it applies to this same logic. Just do better m’am, you got cooked
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 09:31 PM
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just say yes or no Why are you absolutely begging me to participates on your warped fallacies? You’re down 20 rn. You are making zero points. This is why numbers are important, it really stops people like you dead in your tracks You wouldn’t be happy about it I suppose not if you didn’t understand numbers Once again, get number’d this is why misandry is stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:32 PM
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The idea you think 3% risk It’s not 3%, it’s not even close to 3% I have stopped reading at 3%… this proves you are deceptive. We just did the math to show you there is not way that number is even remotely possible. You clearly don’t understand how the numbers work. Which means that it’s evident that anything you’ve said after what I’ve quoted is going to come from an irrational bias and be massively incorrect. If you had a bowl of candy on the desk, you die alone if you don’t eat a handful, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:25 PM
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It doesn’t matter because I just did the math to grant you a 100% conviction rate for murder by doubling. 63% would only indicate that the multiple used to compensate would actually be smaller. You know what’s even funnier just looking at your smallest percentage 15% and for absolutely no reason at all running with the premise that only 15% of (insert felony) is caught. The multiple of 6.7 would yield you a whopping .0268. Which in English means if I absolutely still said fuck it, whatever he’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:52 PM
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I’m not sidestepping anything I searched up felonies for a reason and made that distinction clear. I only spoke about felonies, I’m not going to go into misdemeanors because almost anything is a fucking misdemeanor, that would probably include almost anybody’s daily commute. would you say that those two speeding tickets you have are the only times you’ve ever sped I would say that speeding is generally a traffic citation, that can evolve to a misdemeanor like google. I will also say that somebod…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:36 PM
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“I’m pretty sure logically you know people who have been drunk in public or taken part in some sort of minor assault like a fist fight” That wouldn’t be a felony most likely “I know 20 to 30 people who have taken illegal drugs” Casual drug use as described would not be a felony If you use your own life as a litmus for how often criminal or antisocial behavior is punished by the law, I’m almost 30, I’ve gotten two speeding tickets ever. That’s it, the ‘worst’ people I know are people who indulge …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:07 PM
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19 million people are convicted of felonies of any kind which would translate to 5% of people. You are talking about a percentage of a percentage as 43% of offenses are drug related which now brings this down to 2%, and I’ve literally only filtered one offense which is the majority. The truth is that you are talking about a fraction of a fraction, you are talking about a percentage of less than one percent of people, yes as a law abiding man your misandry sounds weird to me. You going “You’re so…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:43 PM
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And that was a weird and deceptive comparison for you to make all in order to exhibit your own bias against men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:17 PM
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Lesbians pulling each other’s arms, and men sending their partners to the hospital are sooo fucking different Oh no… The intentionally incongruent hyperbole that you just fabricated looks lopsided! Checkmate! The question is why and how do you justify those both as the defaults for each? Your brain is literally breaking, in an attempt to downplay the capability of violence from women, you are also downplaying violence against women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:10 PM
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Okay taking this same logic, does that mean that if a man’s partner were to become overweight or less attractive in a relationship that all of these things should also rightfully apply to her as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:41 PM
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Women think they are easy to detect too when they’re women though. That’s the contradiction, mens’ advice is “do better, be better” whether that’s the appropriate message at the time or how helpful or not it may be Is debatable but the message is consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:34 PM
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Last word
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:30 PM
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It’s cause she wanted us to applaud and “Go Girl!” The woman in the story instead of seek more information. That’s why she made this whole post which is a nothing burger. It’s literally: “somebody posted here in this exact subreddit earlier today and ppls said I was wrong, like a lot. I’m not wrong right guys? They were sooooo mad!” lmfao even just copy and pasting the OP into another post would’ve had more integrity
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:22 PM
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👍
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 10:13 PM
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No way you made a whole post and telephoned the retelling just to see more people agree with you. Nobody thought she was wrong to choose somebody else. You just could not and still can not say you knew for a fact that he had zero intentions to date her because it was never explicitly stated in the original post that he didn’t want to see her again and that was the pushback you were getting. Nobody is mad she got somebody else you just kept trying to throw out your assumption about the meaning of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:51 PM
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I have terrible ADHD Oh now you don’t have all that etiquette and can’t read? But my responses were ‘all that’ when you jumped in. You and ‘all your boys’ can eat a Frank. Best of luck with your disorder my guy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:11 PM
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I didn’t deflect anything it was blatantly obvious you didn’t read my reply, you replied to me two minutes later and it didn’t address what I said and just as blatantly obvious as that is the fact that you want the last word and I’m not going to give it to you in addition to you just spouting off your opinion without even having the decency to read what you are replying to
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:24 PM
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That’s my argument and that’s the fact. If we’re genuinely interest, we’ll appreciate the initiate, and propose an alternate date. The point is we don’t know that he didn’t do that. So it’s a moot point. He absolutely could have done that and easily got this result. I don’t think it’s a wild opinion But it’s an opinion. Factually, you don’t know if that did or didn’t occur so to hold that against a guy is you introducing your own variable. Now if an incel came in here and introduced their own va…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:14 PM
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My God, there it is just as predicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 06:37 PM
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Last word 🥱
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:58 PM
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Have a nice day m’am
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:37 PM
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You don’t know what was said. That was the point. Please read She did nothing wrong by ending the dynamic That’s all you wanted to say from the beginning. You’re just here to ‘cheer for your team’. that’s why you clearly read nothing I said in response. She had a right to do it whether it was viewed kind or not. You just want it to come with no negatives. You said it so now I’ll bid you a good day since you’re not trying to have an actual discourse. You have successfully pushed your opinion onto…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:22 PM
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You are assuming he didn’t because nowhere is it expressed that he didn’t. You don’t no that he said “No.” every message and nothing else, in fact you know for a fact that he didn’t just say that and added context because OP knows the reason he wasn’t there was due to work. This is cognitive dissonance you don’t know if he said “maybe some other time” or “next week is better for me” anywhere in the dialogue he had. You’d fail if this was English class. What we know: F wanted to hangout M indicat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:14 PM
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He is an adult and has a JOB. You are talking about “if you reject me” and he literally said he had job related obligations that prevented him from hanging out with her over those days. This is what I meant by rational doesn’t always provide the solution and by pointing out that you don’t date women. Despite the fact that most able bodied people have to work, especially men. Somebody saying “I can’t, I have to work” goes to rejection before “what’s a good time for you that you don’t have to?” “W…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:43 PM
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The good answer is that you don’t date women yourself, and it’s evidenced by you thinking that practical solution has a 100% success rate, even under a story where the main theme was “Do what I want or else” and somebody giving you a first hand account of having that experience and just simply telling you: “This has not been successful for me”. Being rational is not all it takes
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:27 AM
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You will he replaced by somebody better who will do these things And that’s why this works for men, because this is a fallacy. What typically tends to happen is you get instant gratification and now you full fledge enter a pattern where you ‘upgrade’ so often that you immediately do it at the first sign of conflict. If you don’t become a cheater, you will mistake this for infinite options all the time next thing you know, you’ve never been married and your 37/38 using tinder and haven’t had a st…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:14 AM
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Her future if she ages out of your favor The real amount of influence she is allowed to have in her own life -Most of your bullet points are fear mongering. Women of all ages complain about relationships not working, even ones that they cause to fail so why can’t they fail in these types of relationships? Is she allowed to party hard— -I mean… this seems like a compatibility issue that she should at least be able to determine right out the gate honestly. Either the partying seems appealing, or i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:10 PM
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Being a trophy wife comes with the insinuation that you are provided an entire life for relatively nothing but your existence what is the shock that a guy who would view somebody as a prize and demand nothing else of them would value them like an inanimate object as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:12 AM
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It’s cheating and it’s not close in the slightest, if a woman is serving all of your needs would you be more mad that she A) had sex before or B) personally betrayed you and disrespected you? I’m so confused at this juxtaposition
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 05:02 AM
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The common sentiment I’ve heard amongst men is actually of practicality and not necessarily because they are only driven by looks, typically they experience whatever amount of women to not possess a good personality and then looks become a default preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:22 AM
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Why to you guys think women want to do more work when they voice at every opportunity they want that to be your job. Ideally women want men to approach, they want men to make more money, they want men to brings gifts etc. It’s never going to happen like that and they won’t be happier because it’s not what they desire to do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:16 AM
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With the TikTok and instagram thing though you have conceded that with higher stakes (known identity) women engage in that behavior so why would they not for lesser ones? what I don’t get is how people are supposed to be motivated to do that for karma points- I know there are fake stories on Reddit all the time, but I assume they’re more motivated by karma farming- Contradiction. Everybody wants to be the noble person, everybody wants to be behind the right cause that’s why it’s r/AITA and there…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:35 PM
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“Why would women go through the effort to lie for “fake internet brownie points” on an anonymous forum?” The same group of people that set up tripods, and cry in front of them for ‘relatable’ content without feeling the slightest need to protect their identity? If we cared so much about Reddit karma or validation from internet strangers- Instagram. That is all. Lastly, do you assume that men also lie about their preferences for “fake internet brownie points” Yes. No dog in the fight about sizes …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:05 PM
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Then you’re blind as a bat because you literally said this: https://preview.redd.it/azy454wq48ue1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=369dac264c62a7b00fe08f640f142b99e3d33752 So, before I read anything else you said or engage in it you can acknowledge you said this and that you were wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:27 PM
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Correct, but I did not state onlyfans as a representation for all women but rather as a representation of a significant enough sample size of women who have set a price (low ones at that) and engage in hustle culture with sex. This proves that western women can be bought, now we are going to struggle to quantify that and what price especially is reasonable to determine that they cannot be or to determine if they are choosing love over that. Basically can we quantify that they can not be bought o…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 04:24 AM
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If anything they prove that western women cannot be bought with money Literally onlyfans itself knocks this idea out of the park. Any athlete scandal, entrapment and just the culture surrounding women who pursue the wealthy and elite of those countries debunks that. They literally can be. The question is what is the amount, you’d have to average that out to a common currency and you’d be unable to because women typically have a higher ideal price than the market, and secondly, to know a woman co…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 03:15 AM
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What kind of men and how many? You actually have to quantify that or else you’re literally only talking about this man, who is one in hundreds of millions. Do I need to actually put the amount of zeros for a percentile to illustrate how much that isn’t worth the headspace of engaging with in that framework?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:35 AM
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I will not rule that out as a requirement for some but this would directly contradict the existence of men like ‘passport bros’, 90 day fiancé types or men who travel in order to seek success in the dating market. You also have to factor in that while they may be expected to pay they also receive generally higher social standing and benefit from cultures in 3rd world countries that expect such for the most part. I believe you said something akin to “women having their own choice with no boundari…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:17 AM
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Uh oh, a forum that’s doesn’t disprove your faulty calculations and that you are trying to project over a large group of people when in reality it mirrors the ideals of a minority of that group. 🤯 you are destroying me
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 02:06 AM
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That’s nice I already explained to you You know what’s also nice? Photos… it allows me to not have to keep humoring your condescending like you’re not just making stuff up because you’re the actual person here who doesn’t know what they’re talking about. https://preview.redd.it/t91w0d0j14ue1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0292d4156db554f7102b9a477b70dc4876d045f0 Literal google search of “decentering relationships” feel free to check it out, or I’ll just take your word over the fact that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 01:57 AM
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Foreign / non-western women are the biggest advocates of “my money is my money, his money is our money” going to have to push back on that one. “Sprinkle, sprinkle” is western. Western women have a whole culture themselves as well as unique strategies to obtain money from men (which may include onlyfans & sex work as a part of the hustle culture). Divorce laws etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 12:47 AM
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Thank you for telling men what they want, based off of again an adult industry outlier that contradicts the way the society (men built) views relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:37 PM
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Woah look at one guy who lived that lifestyle for his entire life and was a pioneer for the adult industry? Then project it across all men? Woaaaahhh 🤯 checkmate I never thought to move the goalposts to a very specific example like a famous person in the sex industry, the same industry that would include people over 50+ and men younger than that which would still blow up your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:46 PM
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Decentering women means stop making finding sex their life’s priority Women do a great job of ensuring men know to listen and validate their perspective or else they are poor listeners, lack emotional intelligence, comprehension etc or some shaming language like that and then you guys listen to a man and tell them how men work… every man on this sub is a not desperate to get laid. Every man on this sub is not single. Every man who on this sub who is single does not prioritize sex.. Stop complain…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 09:27 PM
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Literally included women up to 85 in the calc and then filtered out women under 30 LMFAO. This is terrible math
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 03:09 PM
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You’re not allowed to say this because it’s ‘Chad shaming’ women. According to other women in this sub you’re not allowed to assume that a person with no redeemable characteristics would likely have been attractive. You must assume they were a ghoul
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:24 PM
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Male friendship can do all of those things if you put forth the effort to assemble the people who are capable of doing it and establish that dynamic. My friends know I am always willing to support them emotionally or even financially should they need it. I am balanced, supportive, I respect confidentiality, and I can lighten the mood pretty well. The downfall of a lot of men saying that male friendship does not have these things is not that we as men aren’t capable, or do not establish this dyna…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 09:13 PM
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Men do decenter women, but they do it naturally it has nothing to do with making women themselves less important or putting forth an actual conscious effort to not care about a person who is female. An example is “Hey it’s the playoffs, I’m going to make sure I make time to go watch that.” This is a healthy way of embracing the desire to indulge in a hobby. An example of women ‘decentering’ is posting to social media about how much her life has improved since she has ‘decentered men’ or how much…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 02:31 PM
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People also tend not to call those women losers but instead validate their perspectives regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:52 AM
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Could you present a counter study?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:50 AM
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‘Small minority’ underplays the rise in trend of how popular misandrist rhetoric has become among women “male tears”, “decentering”, and ‘be selfish’ advocacy, “girls’ girl”, “pick me” “i hate to agree with a man” etc. (because I could go on and on) is commonplace amongst women on social media. Honestly the tone in which many women reply (that you are default an uggo incel with entitlement issues) makes me think it is not only not worthwhile to engage 8/10 but also that most normal men choose no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:46 AM
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Lots of women disagree in premise only and that in the strength of ‘manosphere’ many women solely oppose the traditional positions that do not benefit them. Any semi-reasonable conclusion of something unfair in the dating dynamic expressed by men is met with essentially “tough cookies, deal with it. That’s the way it works.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:39 AM
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And you think given the same exact proposals and opportunities that women wouldn’t choose men a guy they are likely to sleep with on the first date? You think it’d just stop at millionaire? I think again this implicates a bias. I agree to disagree but being that’s the case I still would like to say I responded to your comments because I tend to find that I agree with a lot of your viewpoints and usually find your opinions insightful. I chose to engage and disagree here not because I wanted to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:34 AM
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And I’m not asking about a totality rather what you make of the fact that your data would still reflect less than 80% of men according to the previous study
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:08 AM
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Thank you for providing some numbers, so based off of this, we can substantiate your assertion that men are more likely to view casual sex favorably. Now going back to the OP and the previous data is it safe to say this data refutes the claim that most men want casual sex or that they are looking for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:59 PM
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“It’s definitionally casual sex;” *definitively… also you literally set that parameter. What if the 3rd date takes place after 90 days? What if the people have known each other 10+ years and have now decided to date based off of qualities and history they already have. Further more YOU said you would expect casual sex No I didn’t, you’re just throwing up anything hoping it will stick. In every anecdote I’m telling you I do not seek or desire causal sex. I’ve never had sex on a 3rd date, I’ve nev…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:19 PM
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The whole story why you would choose casual sex is not relevant The story was that I wouldn’t and do not choose it. I literally stated that I personally require certain thresholds of connection to be met before I can even think about performing in that way for a partner. You feel like it was owed to you Red pill, blue pill it all comes down to the same shaming tactics. I engaged with you using redpill talking points. “It’s just your turn”, “women make rules for guys they don’t like and break the…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:38 PM
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It’s not relevant because you ignored the fact that I said not everybody (most men even) want to have sex early and that there is often a pressure felt by men to not have to do more to earn the same level of treatment. The data you are talking under showed that nearly 9/10 men were not looking to have casual sex and that nearly 50% of them had intentions to form a serious relationship. You presented no data to counter it, just an assertion that contradicted it and then you downvoted me because i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:28 AM
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I would push back that this all depends on the woman. If a man is dating a woman and has deduced she seems like she has casual sex with men that she really likes around x timeframe then they would expect her to at least want to have sex within x timeframe similar. It’s not about the sex, it’s about the qualifier of “this is how she treats people she has high interest in.” However, if it were to be the opposite they would have no problem having patience. It’s not about the sex as much as it is th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 08:00 AM
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Living up to the flair, thanks for the down vote and I’m not reading all of that because you couldn’t be bothered to scroll to his second to last comment where word for word he says: I was married the first time, so I felt I could trust my wife. So again, thank you for downvoting me because you didn’t have 60 seconds of patience to read. You’re going on a tirade because you got a point to prove to yourself we both know it was likely a hit it and quit it No we don’t, you’re projecting that and he…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:53 PM
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I love how a man can’t even get mercy for trusting his wife. But it’s top notch social media content every time a woman can’t trust her husband
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 05:04 PM
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I didn’t ignore it, that just brings the question back to “what type of person do women like?” so now you have just come full circle. Because not only did you not oppose what I just said you set the criteria to being liked. To be a ideal man, you possess a skill/skills that would alter your partner’s life for the better, that’s what women say they want. At the very minimum you have exactly what she has, that’s what women say they want. Open any thread on this sub about ‘women approaching’ and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:57 PM
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You could be a functioning adult and a good reliable partner and that does not mean a woman would pick you either, that’s not it there’s more to it. Women try to downplay their requirements and then when it doesn’t work for those men they turn to redpill etc. being a ‘functioning adult’ or a ‘reliable partner’ has nothing to do with being funny, interesting, confident, charismatic, social, intelligent, paying for dates, dressing and grooming well, leadership, wisdom. You don’t need any of that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 12:20 PM
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That’s pretty bad faith of you. Women typically at minimum claim to want somebody that has exactly what they have. They typically want somebody that adds to and upgrades their life. The expected result is that this person is inherently making their life better in some way. This person is an improvement. For dating women they believe are inferior to themselves That’s where you exposed yourself because I didn’t label the women inferior I spoke to how men have little to no expectation (for better o…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 02:04 AM
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You all don’t know a damn thing about communication and human psychology and it shows Somebody is really on their high horse. Thank you for the anecdote about your brother, I have been to counseling when I was younger for something similar. I am known as an excellent communicator in my life from schooling, to the workplace, as a mediator and at social events. My therapist even said I was quite perceptive and displayed basic knowledge of several concepts. Which is why I cited a therapist would sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:06 PM
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I didn’t say he’s better. I’m saying if you asked a woman to describe her ideal man it’s usually somebody in better standing than herself. It is not typically so for a man. It may escalate on a visual scale, but it’s not a person that is transformative for his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 09:44 PM
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Well if you could afford to eat at the five star everyday you’d never go through the drive thru. Clearly when you ‘settled’ for McDonald’s the reality was it was the reasonable choice to make. So because of that it’s fine to take it for granted? So a man who is a McDonalds regular should automatically start trying every Michelin star restaurant once he can afford to never eat McDonald’s too then right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:58 PM
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I would say that men love unconditionally because generally men do not expect or desire partners that are better than they are. Many men are willing, open to, or straight up desire to have leadership, be depended on, and have the majority of the responsibility for the relationship. First there is the pursuit/courting stage, then after marriage you have unfavorable divorce laws, coupled with the likelihood to have less access to your children or the right to choose to be the primary caretaker of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:44 PM
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Most men don’t even get the option of having somebody let them choose to prioritize doing ‘boring tasks’ and spending time with their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:36 PM
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If ‘choose better’ is still the correct advice then this is still all hurt feelings. Somebody doesn’t have to know you to tell you that 2+2 is 4. The desire for sympathy and validation does not negate the effectiveness of the advice. If the advice itself is bad it’s because it is non applicable. Btw Men do that online and women call them losers and incels for expressing their resentment. They are often met and questioned whether appropriately or not if they may have contributed to the failure of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:33 PM
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The thing that gets me about ‘choose better’ is that it’s literally the correct advice and a therapist would recommend it, a friend would recommend it, a love one would recommend, many times the person receiving the advice would agree to some degree. But it’s so inflammatory at the discretion of the person hearing it because…. Is it embarrassment?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 07:24 AM
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The obvious answer is no. The question though is why juxtapose reasonability to that? There’s plenty of women who will find a person attractive and deem them ugly, stupid etc after dating them. This lacks the nuance that some people can be indeed can be unreasonable. That does mean all, but to suggest that anybody who is ‘picky’ can never be incorrect is also false and disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:33 AM
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Fair enough, that’s not the love of your life. That’s okay I’m not saying that to make you feel bad I’m just saying it’s the best decision to leave
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 04:01 PM
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In that short of a ‘dating period’? Then that’s not the love of your life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 03:22 PM
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Just expectations men now have to meet This is a fallacy, plenty of women are in relationships and or mingling with men that do not meet many or any of their expectations. The number vice versa is even higher. Women are now able to demand more than they ever have Is simply due to social media allowing women to broadcast their desires into the wind, it then also allows people to fabricate parts of their lives and influence others to believe their outcomes are real and achievable. If the TikTok ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 06:22 PM
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Both parties must sign a contract, making them equally responsible for a “failed job”. Ha good luck with that one, that’s like asking an employer why the last person quit 🤣 I enjoyed this analogy. The ‘references and portfolios’ I think are actually really a key to dating if you are looking to date casually or maybe a few people. I have tried explaining this to my girlfriend as far as part of the reason why I don’t enjoy posting our relationship on social media (which I also do not use for perso…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 04:14 AM
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When you say bring to the table we are talking about in terms to a partner and not just outright positive traits right? I’m thoughtful I love to share and give I’m funny Affectionate & Romantic Resilient & consistent Dependable Good at conversation Very empathetic Make decent financial decisions Great at conflict resolution I’m a family oriented person and thus probably make a good impression and have strong relationships with a partner’s family/friends
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 05:09 AM
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As somebody approaching their later 20s, the answer is no. The reality is whether I want them or not there will always be a segment of women that want to rely on a man and the older I get the better of a position I am in to do that. As a man I am free or restricted whichever one from the fantasy ideal or desire that somebody is going to ‘rescue me’ or simply step into my life and do infinitely more things to better it and improve it just because I exist and it’d be cool. Ultimately men and women…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:56 AM
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As somebody approaching their later 20s, the answer is no. The reality is whether I want them or not there will always be a segment of women that want to rely on a man and the older I get the better of a position I am in to do that. As a man I am free or restricted whichever one from the fantasy ideal or desire that somebody is going to ‘rescue me’ or simply step into my life and do infinitely more things to better it just infinitely improve it. Ultimately men and women want different things and…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:55 AM
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This sounds like guy was in the friendzone and had some trauma with the whole “you can’t see me cry” thing. If that’s the love of your life why not suggest therapy? But something tells me that wasn’t the love of your life you just think this was really lame
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 04:01 AM
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I mean I still wouldn’t do it but isn’t this the type of thing that would confirm somebody like your friend to be a dumbass and take grifter ‘get the girl guaranteed’ advice when you say things like: “This person for my criteria and I’m still no longer with them”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 03:53 AM
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People saying that have seen this content confuse me because men needing to be better was the primary content driver of daytime television from at least the 90s-10s. That’s public television and it’s 20 years, I wasn’t even old enough to watch that stuff I just remember from the view to Oprah to Steve Wilkos, Maury, Cheaters, Steve Harvey. I am missing quite a few because again wasn’t old enough and I don’t consume this on my own but it’s interesting to see that has not come up
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 12:03 PM
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This is just how you are comfortable with putting it. Nobody is debating you, I’m just throwing your sentiments back to you. Whatever ability you held against them is the same ability that can make them useful for something else, so just like protection. You didn’t clarify protection and provide me with a new statement you just qualified protection to be the opposite end of the scale but refused to quantify it the exact same positively. You can justify it however you want. The point is you will …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:41 PM
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I do not believe that men are more likely to be helpful to both men and women than women are. Yes but you believe them to be more of a threat, therefore the same capability you are attributing must also be able to attributes towards a positive. Every action has an equal or greater reaction there is a Yang to a yin and so on and so forth. The point is to not make you concede that men are better. The point is if you are so determined to declare them a superior threat you must acknowledge they are …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:01 PM
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I agree. Have you witnessed or experienced somebody displaying these behaviors or rhetoric in person? What was your reaction?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:05 PM
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Okay so you don’t think it’s disingenuous to only apply ”the FACT is that men are far more of a threat to both men and women than women are As a fact but for the inverse which would be being a help to render that subjective?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:03 PM
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It’s obviously not true that men are more likely to be helpful than to be a threat?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:57 PM
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This is cool but you’re playing right into this by not being able to just plainly acknowledge that a man is just as helpful. It only lends to your dishonesty. I’m not seeking to deny the mirror or I would have already cited the biological difference. The distinction I’m making is if you think it’s fair to label a man a threat then it’s just as fair to label him not one and since you were the one who cited numbers the numbers would overwhelmingly actually support they are more likely to be helpfu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 04:17 PM
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You’d still have to factor in the capability of men to do all of those things besides birthing, then the fact that men have made countless contributions to systems, tools and structures that makes these things safer and easier along with it. Then you factor in that men are typically breadwinners and take care of families and that women are typically dependents. While you have healthcare and now education. Men still have just about everything else. But that isn’t the point the point is that a pen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:07 PM
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I think this is fair, because then wouldn’t you also need to concede that it be a FACT that men are also far more of a help to both men and women than women are? Since they pretty much construct and uphold most people’s daily lives? Or does it become controversial because I suggested a positive?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:26 PM
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but you are arguing in bad faith Ok person who literally just made up their own definition for something. <image> Actual organized movement with clear social and political goals, financial backing, a cult-like following, structure and a plan “Collection of websites, blogs and online forums” But I’m Mr.Bad faith? Keep on sipping that kool-aid by the way women literally have the highest voting demo they control the vote, but you’re fear mongering an often ostracized subset of people on some online…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:55 AM
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Is it really? Does being weirded out by the notion that somebody has resentment or hatred towards an entire sex really say that much about your other dating preferences that you couldn’t be blue? My flair is what it is because most blues I see on here just also seem to comment implying they resent that they are men. I still subscribe to most of the blue pill ideology. I love courting and over the top dates, doing romantic gestures, and sex is not a priority for me in relationships most of the ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:17 AM
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Your whole argument is bad faith from start to finish Did you just unironically “nu-uh, you are”? How can you proclaim my argument is bad faith when it provides examples congruent examples for both sides. That’s totally irrelevant to the discussion I’m literally the OP how are you going to redirect to sex trafficking and a bunch of other things that had nothing to do with my post which aims to show similarities of damaging rhetoric and talking points and is challenging others to confront their p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:06 AM
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I agree but I’m hoping to hear from actually rational women on why they aren’t addressed or if so in what manner. This is not necessarily for radfems but the fact that they will expose themselves provides the necessary evidence of existence
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:52 AM
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you see a lot of this content online, but I don’t really see much of it outside of PPD See but that’s the thing, I’ve encountered “men are trash” girl, I’ve dated women who became “men are trash” mid relationship off of nothing that had or do with their experience with me. I hang out with just about everybody I have geeky friends for interests like videos games, computers, memorabilia. I have friends that are active and enjoy sports, outdoors friends, cultural art and media friends. I have not m…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:49 AM
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a random edgy teenager saying “men trash uwu” Riiiight because we get to start off bad faith immediately and pretend I came to this sub to talk about highschoolers and then you get to establish Andrew Tate as the mascot for men. It’s almost formulaic, check this out, Andrew Tate is know for cultivating an audience of… Incels. He’s grifting ppl you think are losers. Andrew Tate gets zero of my support and he’s not on my radar in the slightest. I checked your profile and just like every other bad …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:38 AM
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Okay and do you feel like both groups should exist? Do you support them both?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:24 AM
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That’s a nice try but I didn’t assign women a thought or generalization. I commented on certain behaviors they participate in. Common sense has to tell participation in an action is not going to be 100 for any group and then with the rest of the comprehension you can see I am juxtaposing two subgroups under an umbrella term. The manosphere clearly is not reflective of all men, this is a disingenuous and bad faith response. I am commenting on a minority of people and pointing out that we police o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 06:22 AM
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I am not contesting that men like this exist in anyway. I am saying we widely acknowledge their awkwardness make sure they know their views are unwelcome and freely dunk on them but we do not extend this to women in general and as far as this sun goes. If I had a dollar for every time a woman on this sub ignored my entire comment and addressed me like I’ve never talked to a woman (because those are the only men they think exist in this sub). My point isn’t to defend awful men. It’s that as a nor…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:20 AM
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And you think I have to cherry pick to find a tweet with 120k likes bashing men? I have never voluntarily sought out a Cardi B opinion of offset or how she views relationships yet I have an idea off the fact the news is forced onto social platforms. There is no female equivalent of the manosphere So there’s two sides to every coin except now? Anyway…. Pink pill, sprinkle sprinkle, “boss up you deserve everything” is bar for bar the mirror of Alpha, We outchea grindin bro, “Gains bro for pump and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:10 AM
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Okay so then if you are in a committed relationship and we understand it is called that because there is a commitment (a promise is also a kind of commitment) there. Do you have a moral obligation to reciprocate to your partner and are you free not to? Or Is it morally correct to accept things with no intent to ever reciprocate them because you don’t owe this person anything
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:58 PM
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Why do we keep going with this? If women made better choices then “baby mamas” wouldn’t exist? Magically that becomes hateful but what you said is aye ok? Is it both dumb are both ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 09:08 PM
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So you just again reworded and added your own context to what is ultimately “make a better choice”. Which would then mean it’s a valid criticism to either sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:24 PM
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Actually your example is out of context, because you a scenario that is outside of the scope of the OPs dynamic which is that the two people are already inside a relationship. You don’t “owe” somebody a relationship as two people not in a relationship agreement are on equal ground as strangers who have no commitment to each other. I find it odd that if you ask a majority of people to describe dating ideal dating characteristics they will typically consist of some ideal of loyalty, honesty, integ…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:20 PM
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LMFAO so you reply to me highlighting the parts of my comment you are reading without the context of the lines in between? I didn’t not imply that abusers are hot. I implied that for an average person (highlighting specifically a man in the first example to show you it works both ways as you previously asked) that it is not uncommon for somebody who is more attractive then them to exhibit a flaw. I assumed you would understand this because I referenced the crazy/hot matrix (which has a comedic c…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 08:06 PM
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You are a known proponent of defending women against the criticism that they should “choose better” and you vehemently disagree that women tend to date assholes (which is fine). Yet, this post you just made reads “choose better men, it’s your fault you date assholes”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:29 PM
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I think OP makes a rather valid quandary about this. People are dating with standards and expectations, to be in a relationship means that you have found one or more of these desirable traits. If you have expectations how can you expect somebody else not to? The person you want things from must want something (at least based off of what made this person in the example enter a relationship) so wouldn’t it be immoral to choose to purposely not consider that and purposely continue to take what you …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:24 PM
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This is exactly why I created my debate post literally if this is “women jus stop dating assholes & Chad arr hurr” comments will be flooded with telling people they are incels. This post though is “Men jus stop dating assholes & stacy arr hurr” and it will get zero contention from the same people ‘incel hunting’
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:46 PM
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Because it seems like you’re making another hateful sweeping generalization about women. Again, projection. At this point I’d like to discontinue discourse with you because what I am saying applies to any relationship. My first comment to you immediately stated that men are subject to the same situations and I cited a male example that men use for themselves or have acknowledged has some truth. I am addressing women because that was your contention which is specifically about women. You have no …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:42 PM
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men who are here aren’t any woman’s choice in first place due to their immutable qualities like inferior looks or harmless neurodivergence that turns people away subconsciously Did I miss something in the sub rules? Because maybe I shouldn’t be here and this is explaining why the women in this sub talk to me like I have the emotional intelligence and romantic capabilities of a circus peanut instead of staying on topic and addressing anything I say.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 12:32 PM
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How would you know that? You literally just typed two sentences in defense. You didn’t even try to expand on that or provide any substantive context. This implies that they have 100% correct judgement with absolutely zero bias and once again if that were to still be the case eventually they will still be the common denominator. If women were just saying they date “incompatible” people and not assholes the same men you take issues with wouldn’t be citing that women claim to be dating assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 07:58 AM
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What kind of projection You’re projecting that I would be jealous of a woman’s ex or that I would feel some inferior notion. I’m well into my 20s just about everybody has had an ex, why would I worry or care if I’m being chosen. The only relevance an ex has to me is it shows me the kinds of decisions a person makes. I’m not going to refuse to date a woman because she has an ex, if he ex is an axe murderer then sure, if he’s the love of her life then sure but this is all reflective of the choices…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 02:50 AM
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But you are jealous that women have exes that didn’t work out and were hurt by them That’s a projection You’re trying to create a narrative that women give their best years to toxic abusers No I’m not at all, you’re not reading at all. I’m saying that’s the story they tell and it’s false. You literally implied that if a man in anyway was redeemable a woman would stay with him which then means you are saying that any ex a woman left reflects that the man in irredeemable and that’s so unlikely it’…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:37 AM
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This is the issue. You can be fundamentally incompatible with somebody and they don’t have to be a supervillain. Just because you don’t have a dynamic that doesn’t work well with somebody that doesn’t automatically make them a bad person. That’s r/nicegirls logic. If had a handful of relationships or more and you’ve never dated a good person the common denominator is you which then still means you need to look in the mirror
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 01:19 AM
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I didn’t just say incompatible most women describe their former companions as having no redeemable characteristics unless they are stuck on them in which case they are likely to go back
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:41 PM
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This was a layup to answer and I’m sorry nobody did but the crazy/hot matrix which is widely laughed at assumes that a flaw is more likely with an attractive partner as well (assuming the user is an average guy). As far telling you outright why men assume attractive guys are terrible partners is… they believe women too much. Many women do not ascribe themselves any fault in a relationship not working. Every woman I know has dated the Devil, none of them have done anything wrong. This leads one t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 12:27 PM
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Men don’t care about Gold diggers wanting their money they care about the lack of gratitude, that’s mostly what makes a woman a gold digger. The same woman who is going to ‘love you for you’ is most likely still going to find your money attractive and desire you to use it on her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:11 AM
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I think I would answer this the same way most of the people are, for a personality: It’d be really nice to have somebody who is kind and gentle. Somebody who can understand that life is stressful enough and be grateful enough to see that despite the unavoidable troubles in our lives I am consistently trying my hardest to bring this person love and happiness and so they make it their mission to reciprocate that to me. Somebody who is choosing to have my best interest at heart. I don’t want this t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 09:07 AM
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I’ve been off the apps before hinge got really popular but I never understood the desperation of the ‘numbers game’ approach. The thing I always hated about the profiles were it was 14 things listed that were desired followed by two more “I won’t even respond if you don’t do X” and literally nothing the woman does herself or is interested in. Then you finally jump through those hoops generate a creative reply for “Haha hey =)” after they said they don’t even respond to ‘hey’ I will never try an …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:23 PM
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I think it’s important to keep the title as is because I think this also applies at least in my experience to women outside of just the abuser. If a woman is displaying abusive behaviors to you, especially if she’s attractive a lot of times other women will side with her and encourage her actions because they just simply do not see it as abuse they imagine that to be an image like some drunk dude giving his wife a Mike Tyson combo because he crashed her car on the way back from the liquor store.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 10:32 PM
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They can stop feeding into the belief that their partners have to be obsessed with them, can go longer than 24 hours without speaking to them, have other hobbies and ideas. Most of the ideas you listed are not widely looked forward to by men. No man is thinking that they can’t wait to never see their friends again. They just have partners that tend to isolate them and they can be viewed as selfish or immature for demanding quality time with their friends if their partners express that it makes t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:52 PM
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I agreed with the title in premise but the incel rhetoric put this way out of bounds. if you ask a man to rate himself he’ll probably say something in the 4-6 range No most people give themselves a 7. YOU would say that about you. less attractive men have lower standards, are more appreciate and put in more effort Being less attractive doesn’t mean you try harder. Being a man doesn’t automatically instill humility and self-awareness into you. This is the nurture of society. Less attractive man i…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:49 PM
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Men need to- Theres just always one solution isn’t there? Especially from women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:35 PM
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What’s really ironic is once you start dating women, you realize who the bar actually is in hell for because I find that in many debates or trending social media videos and issues men have with dating it is because they are actually dehumanized in their relationships. Many are seeking kindness, somebody who says thank you, somebody who shows grace and even dares to apologize and they are shamed for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:53 PM
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What was confusing? You were commenting that on the superficiality of men and women. You seemed to suggest that women were less superficial so I challenged that with the common observation that fat women will rate themselves higher and brag about sleeping with all kinds of men that they perceive to be suitable quality and to match or exceed their standards. I also pointed out that this phenomenon doesn’t exist for fat men. They aren’t out here bragging about how many women they have or calling t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:47 AM
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you should know your gender well just because a women has slept around doesn’t mean she’s considered attractive a woman being considered a 10/10 is different. Just all over the place. How can you fully lean into whatever stereotype you are imagining yet pull back at the last second at the idea of a rating? Which one is it? This is the interesting part of these “debates” for me because if you flair was redpill man I wouldn’t even have to give you any meaningful rebuttal I could just call you an i…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 02:25 AM
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I noticed that a lot of people when talking about RP on this sub commit to addressing a character instead of the ‘rationale’ of the ideology itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:32 AM
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Could you? Because where are the fat bros calling themselves 10s and swearing up and down they’ve had woman A and woman C
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:13 AM
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Again, feminism is not a dating strategy. Feminism is a political movement so no, they would actually comment and encompass something that broad… feminism is not an ideology. If this is going to dwindle down to “I feel” and just you throwing out statement after statement with no consistencies or backing just the need to defend your own biases and desire to put the ‘opposing view’ in a bad light we can stop it here too
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 04:48 PM
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No it would be a different set of ideologies and ethics etc they have, people are complex and thus they have several different ideologies. The fact that somebody would make a connection to how they feel relative to a dating strategy does not reflect upon the dating strategy…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:01 PM
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They don’t, you just saying that they do I never said redpillers advocate for war. Is literally your previous response. To oppose peace and anti-war means you are on the opposite side which means you’d be in favor of war, or an advocate… The point is regardless of if you spoke to somebody like that it wouldn’t have anything to do actually do with redpill it would just be the individual having that stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:48 PM
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You just did all that leg work to show me they oppose anti war sentiments though your statement was: Some feminists are anti-war in general, but redpillers see that as too idealistic. And you wanted to try to back that up with chat GPT like it was the Bible itself just to be shown the same AI acknowledges it’s a reach to even try to make that statement because either side can be either or in general. Your bias got stapled again…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:54 PM
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Dating philosophy is literally in the name… none of what you put advocated for war at all, it just linked the scientific ideals used for dating philosophy and explained how red pill would use the same ideals of reactions and evolutionary learned behaviors to rationalize why wars happen.. it said nowhere that they advocate for it or oppose anti-war sentiments. Literally all I did was ask ChatGPT right after that does red pill believe in war: The “red pill” concept, originating from the film The M…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:38 PM
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The condescending tone mixed with the complete obliviousness is peak irony. He’s not losing sleep over Valentine’s Day, he’s losing sleep over the fact that his partner is inexplicably without reason giving him the cold shoulder.. you’re not winning on a technicality because you make him do it on Valentine’s Day instead of a random Wednesday or his birthday etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:27 AM
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I don’t see where you proved that Valentine’s Day in and of itself has any significance to your man just like OP would claim. He allowed you to establish the parameters and he abides by them and you guys have a tradition. You admitted yourself he’d be confused if you didn’t partake in terms and tradition that you helped set up. He doesn’t necessarily expect something just for the mere fact that it’s Valentine’s Day
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:45 AM
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But this is based on the precedence you’ve set no? Like he would be confused and concerned more so because you stopped exhibiting the ideals behaviors that you both agreed on. You didn’t make it seem like he’d have the thought of “how dare you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:48 PM
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I just said the consider it unrealistic Redpill is about the human nature within social interaction, dating and mating you just assigned them a philosophy on war. Stop doing that. Feminism is a political humanitarian movement for women, by women that encapsulates numerous focuses outside of relationships and dating. It would make sense for them to have a stance about war. I never said the whatever podcast is the perfect example. Right, speaking past the point instead of agreeing because the goal…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 11:34 PM
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How can it not be the best example of it’s a segment of feminism? How can you declare whatever podcast the ‘perfect example’ and then say TERFs was a poor choice? That was the entire point all you are doing is leaning into your own bias. So often you guys want to address incels trying to cling to the ideology that are being milked for money (whatever podcast, fresh n fit) and not address the actual ideology in itself which is why going back to your comment it was so relatively easy to see that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:01 PM
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Which bring me to the point that the extreme ends are so far from the mean it’s disingenuous to extrapolate that to the average person you would identify as redpill but if you were to do that you would have to also attribute the most extreme parts of feminism to be consistent which are just as irrelevant to the average person you’d identify as a feminist
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:15 AM
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I don’t think it’s really ‘charitable’ to exclude the whatever podcast but I’ll roll with whatever makes you have this conversation in good faith. An author/philosopher who is credited much more for starting the ideal is a little bit of a better source than people literally trying to create rage bait and garner money through clicks by intentionally inviting onlyfans models to their shows to be booed no? Rollo is not above criticism but when he says “feminism ruined relationships” do you really i…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 09:54 PM
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TLDR is that they don’t care, and they rather seek empathy and validation than give it to you guys. Women do not care about non-attractive people (sorry, down vote me if you want my source is literally women.) Do you see how women treat non attractive women too? Who wants to be an unattractive woman? They don’t even look up to famous people that aren’t deemed as such. Some women are assholes, everything that a woman does doesn’t always have a righteous reasoning to it. There’s a reason they alwa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:05 AM
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I think it would generally be perceived that the person who insulted you was an asshole especially if you weren’t rude or antagonizing them, so then wouldn’t that extend to OP’s point anyway? Typically creep is not reserved for a mildly attractive person that is being rejected. It’s said that way because it is to illicit a negative feeling from said person approaching. The women on this sub try to inject nuance into the most trivial matters simply because it’s ‘their team’. OP some women are ass…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 06:00 AM
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I don’t think anywhere that I made the argument that sexist people don’t exist.. especially if you are referring to an ‘unnamed sub years ago’ which could have literally been sexist. What do you want me to do with this information? Use the beacon in my weewee to download the answers for who said it, what the sub was and why they said this from the intergalactic Men’s committee? Please allow me several hours while the hive mind responds… Anyway, I will now attach my other response to you since yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:39 PM
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You are now extrapolating what was originally said to loosely 100% of men everywhere…. Why do you people who “hate sexism” do that? What do you expect from me? To summon a helicopter and fly to the hidden Men’s library in Utah? Or should I text the all men group chat? Anyway here’s an interesting tidbit of information. In the United States, where most of these complaints come from, women are the majority of the votes. So with this being said, I’m not sure at least where I live, how I can atone f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 09:30 PM
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1 in 6 is not a large fraction Lillth you literally clarified that you are in fact, not addressing a large fraction by any means by implying that less than 20% (1 in 6) of men are the problem you are addressing. This was indicate it’s a minority of men and that you are talking to a niche group of people. If that is the case you should not be making posts about men in general taking responsibility. You’ve discredited yourself, you’re either. Conceding that you put together your argument so poorly…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:24 AM
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https://preview.redd.it/8yi9e6sbs6ie1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=767de8a7cc947bf541b1217e340373d12ffa4bc7 Thank you Lillth, very cool. Here you are not addressing a large population of men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:06 PM
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such as? You came two weeks later to ask me for an example after I gave you a word for word example of what you said for yourself. You need to see the picture again? So you think not liking misogynists…. How did you quote what I said and yet again still manage to clearly display you didn’t read what I said. That’s a strawman and it’s not at all what I asserted in any way. That’s not how sexism works So that’s not a method of discrimination? If somebody addresses black people as a whole based on …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 03:20 PM
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I already illustrated the parallel and you contested the point about TERFs to simultaneously try to add a nuance to that discussion and deny the same exact one for why there’s nuance to maybe why the whatever podcast isn’t The epitome of redpill representation especially when you conceded one of the members to in fact be a grifter in your own opinion contradicts itself and automatically implicated your own biases and puts us at a starting point for bad faith. You’ve already shown you are willing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 04:22 AM
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He didn’t make the label for people to do that it’s a movie reference it didn’t necessarily have a label. It’s not a title. You are very cemented in your biases. I’m not even here to defend redpill you just want to punch down using an example that is a poor representation of the actual ideology you’re attempting to attack. So it’s fine if you don’t want to actually discuss it and move past this to have an actual position
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 01:18 AM
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So you chose the later. This is hilarious because one of the first people to start using red pill who is often credited for its popularity Rollo Tomassi states it is not an identity and he thinks it’s stupid for anybody to call themselves redpill. You’re literally caught in your own bias red-pill has been shifted to a witch-hunt tool the same way. It became synonymous with incel. Everything you just wrote out all I have to do is plug in ‘red-pill’ where ever you put TERF.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:39 PM
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And people who identify as TERFs have an actual political leaning and identify such as aligning with their morality and values to which this is way less fluidity in the identity that the ‘red-pill’ which isn’t even supposed to be an identity. Are we going to come to the understanding that Whatever podcasts is probably not the most truly 1 for 1 concept for redpill the same way TERFs are not the true identity of feminism? Or would you like to keep cycling because you want to punch down on the ide…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 09:23 PM
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Some feminists are TERFs too, does that paint a clearer picture of your use of the whatever podcast or fresh n fit as a starting point for red pill? At least the later are grifters. Edit: This seemed like a brash rebuttal, but for clarity this wasn’t in response to “some feminist are anti war in general” it was a response to “redpillers see that as too idealistic” war has nothing to do with the redpill philosophy and to attribute some people think anti-war sentiments are too idealistic to the id…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:32 PM
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The grievance isn’t connected to womens’ right to vote. It’s connected to the fact they don’t have to involuntarily register for military services for the same right. I mean even feminism should advocate for somebody not being shipped out for a war they don’t want to fight right?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 05:43 PM
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That’s what I’m implying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 08:22 AM
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Sounds like the grievance in what you just stated was having to register for military service involuntarily which could result in loss of life. Did you clarify it was merely only the vote?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:20 AM
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by about 100% When it would still only take one person one person to consent for the child to be born
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:16 AM
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Did I just read a 5-point strawman with the conclusion “Redpillz is geigh” that’s quite hilarious if this was intentional trolling
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:13 AM
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Those men mistakenly think that sex = relationship and is the cure all for all their problems. They can’t see the bigger picture and are only making it more obvious they are desperate for sex. Prioritizing friendship skills is a major benefit to learn while young because it’s an ultra big indicator of how well your relationships can function/last with other people. You can do just about everything you can during sex with your hand. The mistake many of the men your are referring to make is that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 04:10 AM
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A pattern you are applying across an entire gender. Like I said, futile….
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 10:07 PM
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You are projecting every time you say you men I’m not going to jump in here because it’s obviously a futile effort but I just wanted to point out that tidbit of irony, which upon noticing the second part of your flair is probably also pointlessly futile
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 12:30 PM
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They just want you to go into a corner and concede because they think dark triad dudes care about the women they have one night stands with and cheat on. You were correct and they can’t cope that plenty of women who were normal have experienced these guys and plenty of women who currently are continue to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 01:37 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/o3qued86fege1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4b763760463c11e9972f84bd490dd6e3836f0bef Nope I’m seeing it. I’m not saying Jonah is the ultimate partner or that surfer girl needed to bend to his request. I’m saying that Jonah has the right to choose a partner whose lifestyle fit his better and to express that desire. That doesn’t mean he gets to force somebody into that box, and he didn’t. By default me saying that surfer girl deserved the right to choose to leave m…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 09:46 PM
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You just projected again and said a whole bunch of nothing. It’s not misogyny because somebody was born with a penis and wants to be comfortable in their relationship. A boundary can exist in a relationship and while it doesn’t not have to dictate somebody’s behavior it most certainly dictate the acceptance of the person who put it into place
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 04:25 PM
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You’re projecting that men can’t get dates and hate women because I said somebody has the right to have their own preferences. That because they respectfully stated they didn’t want whatever it was in their relationship and allowed the person to choose is not problematic. You gave an incel-like response, you cant shame your way into making somebody change their mind to something you want (see the irony?). While I personally wouldn’t make that request I don’t think he should make himself be in an…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 03:43 PM
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These guys do not choose good women friends. Their first and only qualifier is not whether she’s a good person like it is for their guy friends. Therefore they often get asked for favors often (something a bad friend would do) get left hanging (seeing a pattern?) and in many cases ultimately friendzoned because they were hoping the person using them would exchange something in return (sex) or actually view them favorably. If they actually sought friendship from women they’d have a different expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:35 AM
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You allowed yourself to be shifted off topic OP, they don’t care about why Jonah set the boundary they don’t care about what preferences he has in his partner because you were right. Jonah alluded to her cheating or being inappropriate with other guys and seeking attention from other dudes. They had already stopped talking when he said it didn’t give him security when he saw the pictures and they disagreed. She just summoned the mob exactly like you said. Women may or may not encounter the women…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/25 08:11 AM
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The problem is you don’t call it out, you make an entire post, disingenuously label it a debate and direct it at men in general or at least in the entire sub as you just stated which is dumb because you are still automatically implying every man in here is in this self proclaimed 18% (at most) then you go to r/niceguys to refuel and reload when you’re low here and cite it like it’s some trump card when you can just as easily access the female equivalent of that or any sub. Honestly you are the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:22 AM
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4B is not significant enough to actually be having a measurable impact and by that logic you would be posing that the movement itself which is a response to a set of political ideas that WON the election which would mean it was seemingly favored by a significant margin of people and arguably a majority. I would propose two responses: women will not stop dating because it is in their best interest. They just about almost exclusively benefit from dating/courting with the exception of choosing an a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:33 AM
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Still waiting for you to engage on your last ‘debate’. You come here everyday to cry about 18% of men(AT MOST). Maybe the call is coming from inside the house at this point <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:24 AM
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That’s the best you got? Okay I’m not going to pretend I falsely accused you of sexism. I’m going to clarify why I think you are misandrist. You repeatedly make broad sweeping accusations of men and talk down on their experiences and of things you claim to want men not those men, just men to ‘take responsibility’ for. Meaning you are projecting these viewpoints on men, as somebody who lives on the other side that is dangerous a lot of women parrot these talking points as if they have no effects …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:57 AM
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And my rebuttal is that the intersectionality is a byproduct of the original strategic premise of getting WOC to adopt the fight and perspective score ultimately cutting out the benefit. Early feminism has many racial ties which always conveniently get overlooked or cut out because “it wuz long ago” but statistics show that a lot of mothers in the black community are by default the heads of their household. Like I said, fathers and the crack epidemic along with mass incarceration happened in the…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:44 AM
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POC didn’t get civil rights act until 1964, the Voting rights act of 1965 was also put into place which would contend that men of color were freely voting in 1870. That is only 61 years ago that those things were put into place. POC have had civil rights for less than a century, likely most of their grandparents didn’t even have it. They certainly have not had the ability to change this structure in any meaningful way to be pinned any responsibility for it. To imply that as a male you benefit fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:26 PM
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Shouldn’t then POC men also be exempt from this discussion being that they didn’t put into place the structure they are being made to answer for?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:21 PM
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I don’t need to I have common sense, but even if I didn’t, I live in the age of information which with one search would very much indicate pornography to be rampant among both groups. The only way one wouldn’t accept this reality would have to probably be out of choice to support their own trauma related biases. But that’s just to accept the premises, they could also be attempting to be facetious with an account specifically dedicated for the extremely niche type of banter. However, repeated eng…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:27 PM
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You can’t accurately make that generalization, good try though. Maybe we should stop here before it gets worse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 07:15 PM
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Did you just call me a liar after you tried to insinuate I made a false equivalence? Because those women definitely admitted precisely to engaging with porn. It is not uncommon at all for women to interact with pornography at all in fact… odd yet ironic how in your attempt to dehumanize men you inadvertently do so for women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:36 PM
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In a relationship where those boundaries were put forth and expressed clearly? No. It’s fairly easy to do as well. Every woman I’ve ever dated has also admitted to watching porn and engaging in masturbation (not a deal breaker for me personally). I’ve never lusted after random women either, it’s unappealing to me my idea of romance involves both sacrifice and integrity so both of those things are minimal hurdles. So again, I’m sorry about your experience and how that’s shifted your perspective. …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:27 PM
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You’re actually substantiating my claims that you didn’t read at all and are only here to pick fights by not refuting any of the valid critiques and questions I’ve presented to your perspective. All you have to do is present how the logic is not flawed m’am otherwise you refusing to engage in a ‘debate’ you sought out and created yourself actually does back up every statement in itself. Surely if it’s all on terrible personality, then how can women be having relationships with men with terrible …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 06:23 PM
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Respond to the rest of my comment that dismantles your post instead of just quoting where you stopped reading, which of course was unironically the first sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:56 PM
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Every man on earth cheats Blue pill better come mop this up too. I hope things get better for you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:56 PM
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Compromise is a man’s job apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:29 PM
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Why did they all cheat and consider cheating in the example??? Why was hot guy having options the mystical reason for his brain to unlock a moral compass? Or is it presumed that simply because he could do it so much he just finds it boring? But then wouldn’t that create a paradox in which he’d find dating entirely boring? There’s a lot going on here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:22 PM
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What I don’t understand is you will make a post full of misandry and ‘the dangers of man’ or single parenthood, etc. so it makes quite a bit of sense why somebody would assume it comes down to looks. If people keep projecting all these experiences that they are dating supervillains and abusers with no redeemable characteristics whatsoever then what other justification is there? If we take your typical reductive: “‘irresponsible loser man baby incel’ is the only person who’d contest my perspectiv…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 05:13 PM
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I’m a man and depending on the connection I believe I could. I would be just as happy to hear “I really love the time we spend together, I can’t wait to you again! I’ll take care of this one!” On a ‘3rd date’ instead of getting sex. Respect and gratitude are higher on my priority list honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 08:56 PM
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Cars may explode more than people take antibiotics You were so busy skipping past the existence of condoms which nullified your point and the fact that you have no numbers that you would make a reach to build a strawman like this. Not surprised. I didn’t say it’s uncommon for people to have take antibiotics in their lives. The number we would have to look at is pregnancies in which antibiotics was a factor AND the effects on condoms due to antibiotics. GG antibiotics is not making semen rip thro…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:32 PM
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Ahaha a last ditch Hail Mary attempt. I already took my journey years ago. So I appreciate the insincerity you have as soon as a man is on the other end of abuse. I accept the concession your are too stubborn to give on the basis it’s obvious you already lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 01:57 PM
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No explanation needed it you’re just going yet again throw the terms misogyny, red pill etc and strawman yet again then act like I am ‘ignorant’. You are going to generate any scenario but one where somebody is just refuse helpful advice because they view it as criticism which ironically you will exemplify by building said straw man. You will expand this topic to some other instance in which the advice will still likely be the solution yet hoping I said something that didn’t properly take into a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:13 AM
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in a specific context How many times are we going to go over this?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:45 PM
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Keep denying the context of what you said and who you said it to This is exactly why I called out your bad faith framing immediately. You keep establishing this as THE context, it’s not. You are hypothetically creating this scenario and you keep trying to bait me to engage on the defensive side of what you’ve set up to be a losing battle. Almost nobody is offended when wished a Merry Christmas Which correlates exactly to the point I’m making. You yourself deemed it sound advice. Any person who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:31 PM
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‘Choose better’ is not trademarked by redpill or anybody it’s just the way I’m conveying that the idea of a man making the suggestion to a woman that she should should make a better choice to achieve a better outcome. You are by default claiming to assign all of those men to redpill and you also called them incels (shocking). It’s very deceptive of you to insist I am using an insult when you said the exact same thing. Once again the only thing that is different is the wording and that I am male.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:10 PM
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Ironically I think for men “The bar is in hell” and the biggest irony is they don’t even realize it or echo the sentiment while I see women point to things such as lack of romance, lack of financial reliability, or simply somebody being ‘easily impressed’ which may or may not be valid I generally see most male (not including incels) related content asking for basic human kindness. Something like “Me want person who talk nice to me” “Me receive gift or reciprocal gesture for appreciation after pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 06:03 PM
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Nobody is pretending otherwise, I’m just not going to engage in a bad faith framework. You claiming people only say that’s to the abused is simply false, no matter what you want to say you literally said ‘the advice’ was to make a better choice. You don’t get to assign me an ideology when I say literally the same thing with two plain words. That’s actually bullying, people can give you advice you don’t like but that doesn’t innately make it bad because that is the case, it can still be correct a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:54 PM
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Trying to pretend it isn’t insulting is like a little kid playing innocent after bullying someone I suppose so when you are allowed to project the implication that it defaults to somebody being stupid and then get to frame the next context as abuse. Have you heard about how terrible water is? You have to be willfully ignorant to not realize it is meant as a danger. It dangerous because it implies drowning to someone who isn’t a swimmer. People don’t come with floaties or snorkels ready to go at …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 05:25 PM
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What is ‘red pill’ or ‘insulting’ about the phrase: choose better that is not conveyed by you literally describing the proper remedy to be a better choice?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:46 PM
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What is it about the two English words: choose and better that when put next to one another do a Dragonball Z fusion dance to form said Redpill? I literally described the same process you just said and now it’s a ‘redpill insult’?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:43 PM
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If you live in a place where most men are like that it can be a societal issue Or, she can just decide she doesn’t like the tone of most men and ta-da! Society’s fault! We solved it everyone. Does where you live have multiple women like that? “Sorry ugly :( maybe you’re just not as cool or trying as hard as you think ¯_(ツ)_/¯”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:19 PM
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This sounds good but “choose better” is literally the same thing as leave and get a new guy but triggers women when offered as advice
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 02:21 PM
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You seem to be posturing like you presented some type of loophole. The fact is I’ll concede I didn’t know that from pure amusement just off the pure fact that you still would have to give a figure of pregnancies you would attribute to that. You would then have to explain why antibiotics gives you armor piercing rounds that nullify condoms. That’s like saying “the car you drive can explode! Aha I bet you didn’t know that!!”. It probably could in a certain scenario but what would make it do that? …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:54 PM
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I always checked my condoms to see if they did malfunction so I would have known, then I would have bought an emergency contraceptive and then at that point it wouldn’t matter what anybody had to say to me because I would have done my part already. Just between those two the odds are pretty small. BUT if it did we’d still never be having this conversation because I would have been working however many jobs it took. Which would bring it to the original point, know who tf you are sleeping with. I …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:46 AM
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That’s not what was said, also that means nothing about enforcing the other party to wear a condom… If you guys want to whittle down every variable possible you realize that the rate of unwanted pregnancies would still have to drop in correlation right? If only people on Anti biotics, with defective condoms were having oopsies the rate would be so small we probably wouldn’t even be talking about this..
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:40 AM
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Wow and if all that which you created 3 variables happened guess what they could do? Stop and get a new condom. It’s really not hard, every time I’ve ever been propositioned to remove my condom no was an easy answer. Every time I’ve been propositioned to trust somebody else to take an emergency contraceptive instead no was an easy answer. Volunteering myself to use my own and take responsibility even when I didn’t have to was really easy. Mind you that you are rebutting me about the idea of havi…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:36 AM
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You’re making an excuse of why it’s a valid reason when it’s still an irresponsible and undisciplined decision. She SHOULD think that, anybody who is not trying to actively have a child should think that. I had an LTR when I was younger (17-20) where I was asked multiple times to have unprotected sex. I never obliged her request no matter how horny I was because I knew we were not prepared to have a baby…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:22 PM
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This one. It’s weird when incels say it so it shouldn’t be so lost upon others that it’s weird to say you’re so horny you can’t be bothered to vet somebody well enough to ensure they’ll keep their condom on….
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:50 PM
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Can you please cite the source for it being no small minority of men that are doing said acts. Could you also cite the source for you doubting 99.9% effective birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:49 PM
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Saw the title and thought “wow, I can’t believe I agree on something with Lillth” and then I opened the post…. and also saw you use Cardi B as a point of substantiation… I would like to know where the view came about that “women lose out on good men by with holding sex” I’ve never heard that, what is the context? Within an already established relationship or marriage or just in general?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 02:00 PM
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“This is beneath me… but not racism” Right because it’s racist for me to call out how drawing up a bad faith argument so you can yell about baby mamas and deadbeat dads is lame, and embarrassing. You can talk about a real normal issue instead that affects a majority of people. This is beneath me I know too many black people that are normal people… that have families or practice safe sex…. If you didn’t than you could’ve said that. If this is a personal thing you could have disclosed that. Otherw…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:57 PM
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In Europe women don’t cheat or monkey branch? Men don’t have affairs or go out to clubs to pick up women? What country are we talking about? Because this definitely happens amongst brits
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:24 PM
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Welfare queens and baby daddies? Sigh, it’s so easy to NOT have a baby you don’t want that nobody gets sympathy from me. This is beneath me I can’t lie, I’ll never be a bad father so honestly I can’t even fathom the mindset it takes to worry about that almost exclusively and it’s embarrassing to see black people only focus on this shit and jail. Then why don’t you guys No I’m not ‘you guys’ I’m a normal person like you just agreed this has nothing to do with me you automatically prove my point Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:21 PM
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The problem with you men is that you are too fucking entitled With all due respect m’am this is why I called you a femcel. I never said my opinion mattered, I just gave my personal opinion of an anecdote to show it literally never once considered older women to be a problem nor did it contain any negative thought in any concept to dealing with a woman. My opinion is just as irrelevant or valid as the next persons and I speak into the wind just as anybody else. I am just reflecting to you that yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:33 AM
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What does this mean? Based on the rest of your terminally online takes this is a take on “choose better?” This isn’t a denial of a bad father, it’s the introspection that a woman has the final say in whether a child will be born. You have 100% power so especially in cases where it wasn’t agreed to have the child beforehand why is it unreasonable for somebody to question the process of how you arrived at the conclusion that somebody who likely didn’t want to be a father at that point or showed si…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:03 AM
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I heard one woman last year on tiktok say that women hitting the wall can be interpret as a mental or spiritual breakthrough This is exactly why I can’t wait for them to ban that damn app. It’s filled with countless women turning on their camera trying to project cope for themselves and by way also giving cope to random people on the internet who will internalize that so deeply without any need for substance because they crave that validation. “I heard on TikTok” like it’s any sort of article or…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:24 AM
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To refute this on an intellectual level with good based faith, being ‘right’ is inherently good because it is usually presumed that there is little to no costs or non benefit for that to be the case. The same way you are arguing this to point the cost would still be detrimentally high because of the trauma involved in such a situation, the lack of consent, and then honestly a lot of other factors which aren’t as prevalent as the first too and so I will leave them aside. This logic chain is akin …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:08 AM
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Well I haven’t been here long but that about sums it up. They are either here to defend women tooth and nail or to degrade them. While there is a middle ground it tends to still be a bit biased and often you will still have to delve into semantics for about 6 comments until you have eliminated any room for misinterpretation at which point you will be met with no response because there is nothing to disagree about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:01 AM
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Don’t you also have other options when you’re on a date? Do you not secure multiple candidates and then pick the best one to ask? Is that not just the best process? I feel like most of this is common sense or not bad but I’m purple pill because I feel like the reason you posted this anyway may be for bp of which I used to be that were unaware of even that common sense due to media etc
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:43 AM
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I would like to agree in premise and I’m not trying to say women never buy or pay because I would never date somebody that never did that but I also know this is the internet and that I get downvoted on this sub for pointing out the reality of expectation. In my experience the women I have listened to, seen and been with have been taken on vacation. In my own experience when we get to the the destination I will see them spend money and buy things but I am still responsible for initiating the tri…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:45 PM
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I’m glad that you read everything I said, saw that I didn’t mention this at all and decided to bring it up anyway. That is yet another strawman and yet it’s still not entirely unreasonable for a different person to want to do that. If you ate a well done steak at Waffle House, they might look at you weird if you went to a steakhouse and was like “yeah I hate steak, this is my experience with it”. That doesn’t necessarily mean you are guaranteed to like it, but that doesn’t make the steakhouse un…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 08:53 PM
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Kindness, respect, empathy, gratitude, dare I be greedy and ask for enthusiasm and affirmation? Don’t be grossly obese. Seriously if you can be a decent ‘friend’ to a man that’s 90% of the relationship and I put it in quotes because I know somebody is going to try to strawman that otherwise. That doesn’t mean that you have to come play pick up basketball and chest bump me but there’s clearly (typically) a self initiated boundary people establish for their friends on how well they should treat th…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:09 AM
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It’s not necessarily a logical extension because you didn’t factor in the compatibility of the fetish. This is why I made the facetious simplification, you didn’t actually draw a 1-1 comparison you just chose an extreme fetish that you thought would provoke a reaction. A logical extension would be that if the new person is also into pegging that YES they should engage in it with their partner who does that because why would you be into something like that and know your partner is and then just n…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:53 PM
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Why does it always come to “why don’t YOU try a peepee?! Uh oh would that make you gay??? 😃” What is the genuine sentiment? If rp flairs started being homophonic wouldn’t bp flair just be like AHA anyway? Probably the lamest thing when it comes to men is the moment they request effort in sex it is now a gross chore that’s so terrible and undesirable. It’s more about the effort than the sex. I might not want a blowjob every day but yeah if you’re previously offering them everyday at your best it …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 06:36 PM
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Okay so now that we have established this logic you also only follow people you hope to have a chance with?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:18 PM
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We could for a separate discussion. To which I would agree that the hypothetical women could hypothetically go to Fiji herself and that she probably also offered to buy the tickets, hotels, etc and the man simply said no. I would say concede on the notion being that requires a strawman to engage with to an extent. Women overwhelmingly voice their opinion that they would like men to take initiative and to be more responsible than them especially financially. Specifically, moving past that and cit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:25 PM
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But how fair is “I want to visit Fiji” when typically for ‘boring nice guy’ this means “I want you to finance this vacation”? A lot of times women requiring excitement from their partner is expected with little to no input. An exciting woman for men is like somebody who shares a hobby and is an enthusiastic sex partner. It’s not somebody who gives them experiences or a life they can’t for themselves. I’m not saying there is zero modesty amongst women, For sure both of these behaviors are shown o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:39 PM
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That’s a projection, I’m a man and I don’t believe in casual sex. That doesn’t make me an alien, I literally am not sleeping with a woman who isn’t my type no matter how hot she is if she can’t meet the parameters that would qualify her as a suitable partner. That literally means I wouldn’t be attracted to them and have no desire to sleep with them whatsoever. Every man does not have a scarcity mindset when it comes to sex, I’m perfectly fine with passing on ‘bangable’ women and never thinking t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:06 PM
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What gave me the impression that you were a woman was that I had to remind you that men are human beings. Odd requirement but very necessary in the last 3-5 years for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:36 PM
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This would mean you think that men who follow you and never talk to you also hope to have a chance then no? Which would be kind of weird
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:48 PM
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Are you not a man? It seems when addressing women’s’ POV as a man I repeatedly have to humanize myself for being a man. Men value and evaluate personality just as much as the ‘number’ you think we are so obsessed with. You may need to talk to more men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:34 PM
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You still described ‘boring nice guy’ because making somebody laugh isn’t simply just curing their boredom. Making somebody your source of entertainment in general is also a whole different topic(it’s draining for that person and unhealthy). The thing is ‘boring nice guy’ isn’t boring when he’s fresh, he’s ‘boring nice guy’ 2-5 years in and really what that implies is routine, consistency and that he hasn’t presented any new and exciting things that his partner hasn’t thought of or initiated eit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:31 PM
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I don’t think men have a problem with women exploring their options and not settling down, I think the issue is the manipulation that “I want to be a wife, I want to be taken care of, I want to be taken on dates and treated seriously” and then within 2 years of investment given with that objective it’s “oh well I have to try other things to know if this is the best thing for me silly!”. Women don’t want to be open about the fact that they are trying to explore because they desire the treatment t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:19 PM
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Is it really Obtuse? Wasn’t Hitler…… A MAN?! What did you a man born after 1980 do about that while working at H&R Block?! Have you ever considered that both you and Kim jong un have wieners?! Or that you and Charles Manson have peepees?! Yet you pay your taxes and work hard for others that you love as if this not be the case! Curse you male human!! You know who is a woman? Oprah! and who else? Wonder Woman /s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:59 AM
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It is so fascinating how much projection women put onto the psyche of men. As a man almost all of this analysis is wrong and it’s almost as bad as OP’s Ryan Gosling and Margot Robbie comparison. Where as women are normal people just like men and people who are generally attractive will be thought to be so by most people. There’s a guy that’s going to say Margot Robbie is not his type the same way the woman will say Ryan Gosling isn’t her type. In response to this, as a man there is always pressu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:37 AM
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This is a deflection. It doesn’t matter either way and nobody cares. I don’t care what somebody’s preferences are and they shouldn’t mine. That doesn’t change the fact that every time I get on social media there’s hundreds of videos of women stating their preferences. Complaining about getting ghosted, dates, icks, you name it. So why is it a problem for men to do it? Its unavoidable even if you don’t want to see it because I have been flagging the content as not interested to scrub it out of my…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 01:59 AM
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Let me tell you OP, you seem like instead of being genuinely interested you just have a justification or correction for anything that even slightly comes from or is deemed ‘red pill’. That’s your prerogative but you should be honest with your own bias and stop engaging in bad faith discussions. It further cements somebody into their belief when you only rebuttal them with “nu-uh….. cause!”. I’m not redpill, it is my personal opinion though that I have seen bias in favor of women on the internet …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 09:58 PM
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I tell you what OP, go on whatever social media platform that you have a decent amount of women on and just simply put “I’m not dating a woman with kids” go ahead and leave it for 24 hours and see how you instantly get labeled an AH
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:33 AM
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I promise anybody you intended to reach with this logic literally saw your title, immediately furthered their bias, then probably took a screenshot and retreated to their echo chamber with it. This was crazy dude
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:18 AM
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Still not understanding that every ideology you hold for men applies to women. There are plenty of women not having sex with their first choice. You must have stopped reading exactly at that point which also ironically could explain said lack of enthusiasm. Lastly wouldn’t porn also be counterintuitive to your whole point?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 06:09 AM
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You are so stuck within your own bubble you can’t even fathom the potential cons of the other perspective. This is a flaw of many women who come with a bias to this whole thing. It’s comes off as envious the idea that being a man is 100% great all the time in every way. Women aren’t demanding written instructions but some of them simply aren’t satisfying their partners. Every man is not having the sex they want and some aren’t even having sex with who they want. They just don’t have the freedom …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 02:22 AM
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