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When it comes to dating men prefer short woman and woman prefer tall man because height is sexually dimorphism When it comes to dating, men prefer women who have had fewer partners, it's sexual dimorphism, why are any women complaining (Im tall don't at me)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:16 PM
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They haven't even figured out safe women's birth control yet (as shown by the widespread complaints and fears about their side effects) All roads lead to Rome
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:40 PM
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Interesting that women don't have the same energy about sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:31 PM
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Men don't have to let their wealth cause them the mistake of getting married, and your argument about disparate treatment of unmarried fathers doesn't hold water even in this allegedly harder state
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:30 PM
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Disproportionately. And it is a trend, meaning it will apply increasingly and by its nature to relatively younger people. None of anything that will be said on this subreddit is universally applicable to every single person
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:28 PM
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They waste their money on frivolities and then complain about depression and not being able to afford children. The sooner isn't happening the way you claim it is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:26 PM
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They're not doing it sooner. It's irrelevant whether it's because they want to or not, and in fact there very well may be substantive non-utopia reasons they don't want to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 07:22 PM
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I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:51 PM
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Nevertheless, the rosy utopia painted by the op isn't happening soon for most people, and certainly not for average people. If anyone it is the working classes that anything of this sort happens "soon" in
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:42 PM
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"Reformed"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:40 PM
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That's pretty late. Nearly 50 by the time your kid graduates fucking high school, and that's if you have the kid right after marrying, which of course neurotic middle classers are allergic to
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:38 PM
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Jana Hocking: Mid Anyone can be the bad guy for a girl that is less attractive than them. Those guys the girls are talking about, they're guys too lol and those guys feel the same ick and post nut clarity from reluctantly dumping a load in mids that average guys do from dumping a load in uggos It is what it is, all the same in the dark lmao, or pay hookers for guaranteed sex with a hotter girl
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:33 PM
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SaUcE
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:32 PM
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It is what it is, and things are what they are. Get your best deal. That's all you can do, and others surely will. When In Rome
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:30 PM
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Well if a woman wants a kid they're probably better off when they're not solely having to deal with 100% of what happens from conception onward
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:29 PM
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Yeah right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:28 PM
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It was after reading a post about how marriage advantages women and not men that I started thinking about this. The relevant comparison is whether they would've each been better off unmarried, not how they do relative to each other. They can't swap bodies or lives The kind of divorce settlements that some men worry about are not something that the average person experiences Marriage is increasingly the province of the rich. So if you're a guy who is MarrIageAblE by today's standards it's very po…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:21 PM
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Sooner means sooner lol 30s isn't very soon
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:19 PM
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As SMBC put it: Wife: Sex! Husband: Money! Caption: We decided to keep our wedding vows succinct
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:18 PM
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Ergo for a man monogamy is dumb but practical way to get consistent hole but marriage is just insanity
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:17 PM
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Which tells you all you need to know about the reason$ women have to marry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:17 PM
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Divorce laws favor the lower earner Similar incomes at marriage doesn't mean similar incomes at divorce (e.g., the mommy track)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:16 PM
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What're youuuuu doing here There's more than enough places that do the fake sugarcoated kumbaya thing, and even then the mask is leaking everywhere lmao. CNN be talking about the 80-20 rule now both sides are coming into this w a full clip of ammo and a chip on their shoulder. That's the reality of the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:15 PM
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most women who are married, and that goes for women who live outside of the Anglo-Saxon world, marry men who don't make much. Most men, and especially most men in the USA live paycheck to paycheck. In the US at least, marriage is increasingly disproportionately something that rich people do
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:14 PM
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The relevant comparison is if they'd be better off raising the kid alone from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:14 PM
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A lot of young women even out-earn men And yet women prefer men who earn more than them, and marriages where women earn more are likelier to end in divorce maybe he gains money. With the misery she will put him through for being the lower earner, he will earn every penny and then some
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:13 PM
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women its financially they fare worse? Compared to what? The relevant comparison if they want a kid is if they would be better off raising the kid alone from the start. If they are better off doing that, then they should put their money where their mouth is and do that You know 1/3rd of American marriages, the woman is the breadwinner? And are more likely to divorce. Hard for women to forego their hooker mentality notwithstanding what the elite blankslatists blather. (As for them, the actual eli…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:11 PM
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Just engaging with the post, which said among other things They go on average holidays with their average kids and they are happy. In fact the more unremarkable a person is, the sooner they seem to find happiness and marriage, with their perfectly equally unremarkable partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:04 PM
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I do not necessarily disagree. I am just engaging with your post They go on average holidays with their average kids and they are happy. In fact the more unremarkable a person is, the sooner they seem to find happiness and marriage, with their perfectly equally unremarkable partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 06:00 PM
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The average man (and then some) 18-29 is single. Apparently your just so narrative isn't really so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:55 PM
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And she would've had to raise a kid alone. Which part of her journey of triumph are you appending that scenario to and assuming it would go exactly as it did
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:54 PM
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This assumes what kind of earnings she could've had as a mom raising a baby alone would've been better than what happened
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:42 PM
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My mother was a stay at home mom, so she contributed to the family by maintaining the home, caring for kids, caring for my dad, and when my dad lost his job in the recession they had to foreclose on their house and declare bankruptcy - meaning she lost the house that was half hers, which is a lot of money, plus had a bankruptcy on her record, so couldn’t get a loan for 7 years What are you comparing it to exactly? Let's assume she wanted a kid whether or not she had to raise it alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:33 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:23 PM
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Same could be said of many ppd posts and comments. You've even got the cottage industry comment of "reasonable, nuanced comment? That's not for ppd" LOL Regardless, there's a debate to be had and it's being had in the comments one way or the other
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:21 PM
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Aren't all the candidates democrats
/r/AllPillDebate02/03/23 05:12 PM
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People my age who are married are not trailer uncles or whatever you're blathering on about lol, which again is my point, the bar has escalated to meet the hookers' most base needs of receiving their hooker vig Ever wondered whether those women didn't just make those husbands of yore miserable because they weren't wealthy enough to pay sufficient whore vig
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:46 PM
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This is the default state. Paywalling sex behind marriage was something those mean old patriarchs forced on women for a very temporary period of thousands of years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:42 PM
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There's a new in between thing now short of marriage called a girlfriend lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:37 PM
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she will take care of the man, all the children, cooking, cleaning. this even enables the man to focus more on his own career. While complaining about how unequal it is. That isn't accepting a role. That's borrowing it. marriage is an exchange A transaction. No need for men to marry now. They can have the milk for free. Thanks liberation!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:35 PM
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You have no idea my family’s income status. From the sound of it, clinging neurotically to the last dredges of middle class respectability
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:27 PM
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"almost got to be her first", can't imagine that's not a thought that ever even once crossed his mind but 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:12 PM
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No u
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 04:00 PM
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Yeah of course walk away knowing it's impossible to refute that women are worthless fucking hooker beggar prostitutes by nature even when they outearn their victim prey men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:55 PM
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wahh wahh victimhood whining on behalf of long dead people 🎻 just Single women outearn single men The thing is it doesn't matter. Women just can't help themselves. They're innate hookers, and men are Johns
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:52 PM
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This is ppd not your therapist's office wall. It's a debate lmao I'm not forcing you to debate it if you don't want to "Do whatever you want" would end every debate on ppd, yet here we all are My demographic I could buy your whole family in cash. Marriage is still dumb though.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:51 PM
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Research shows the increases in health, wealth, and happiness often associated with marriage are disproportionately experienced by men Wet grass causes rain Women pick the winners who can afford to pay them their vig
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:50 PM
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MarrIageAblE is changing It's only for the rich now I could buy your whole family in cash, but marriage is still dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:49 PM
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Over half of millennial births are out of wedlock (1/3 overall, only patriarchal Utah is less than 20% across all age groups) so there's plenty of women available.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:46 PM
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Being in a relationship is different from being married. We are talking about marriage. There's also that marriage rates are declining, and 64% of men 18-29 are single (not even in a relationship) Moreover, the minority or majority taking particular decisions is irrelevant to whether a decision is harmful A majority of Americans are eating themselves into an early grave
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:44 PM
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Just because she's earning a lot at marriage doesn't mean that won't change over time...taking the mommy track etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:42 PM
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proven Then it should be easy to show the proof lol. I assume you're talking about those wet grass causes rain stats like married men are richer, healthier, etc. Women pick the viable workmules to pay them their vig
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:41 PM
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voluntarily succumbing to badgering and whining and complaining and nagging and crying about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD Higher regard Oh sure blame him. Meanwhile there's women out here who be like asking for sex a second time is rape
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:40 PM
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Yet women vastly prefer higher earning men. 2/3 of husbands outearn their wives. Guess it's only ok for women to be transactional huh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:39 PM
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I was his first partner and he was my second, Ah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:38 PM
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They're disproportionately winners. I'm not saying every single one of them are, nor does my claim require it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:36 PM
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A man who is marrying is probably already succumbing to badgering and whining and complaining and nagging and crying about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD, so the odds are he doesn't have the strength to stand up for himself in the form of a prenup Oh sure blame him. Meanwhile there's women out here who be like asking for sex a second time is rape
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:35 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/oct/07/marriage-america-privilege-rich
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:33 PM
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Previous generations aren't current ones
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:30 PM
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If that's the case, why are men always pressuring women into getting marriage Lmao what planet are you on it's women who are badgering and whining and complaining and nagging and crying about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD All of your complaints are based on the idea of a 1940s-1990s cultural structure where women often quit their jobs to care for children Divorce laws benefit the lower earner. The amount doesn't have to be 0 for there to be a benefit, and it doesn't have to be at the start of the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:25 PM
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Most of your parents and most of you aren't rich Most men are not MarrIageAblE. It's the ones who have something to lose who are most at risk of some woman badgering and whining and complaining and nagging and crying about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD rooking them into marriage Most of your fathers do not know how to fully take care of themselves. Most men die before women. Unmarried men die before unmarried women. Unmarried women are fully functioning and men aren't. Men don't even go to the doct…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:23 PM
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Most men are not MarrIageAblE. It's the ones who have something to lose who are most at risk of some woman badgering and whining and complaining and nagging and crying about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD rooking them into marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:20 PM
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Wet grass causes rain Men who earn a lot of money, meeting milestones etc are more likely to be MarrIageAblE and thus more likely to be in the presence of a woman who badgers and whines and complains and nags and cries about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD thus rooking them into marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:19 PM
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file an action for legitimization in court. Once you get the court order, you have the right to seek visitation and even custody There's your divorce petition, but fewer factors to have to fight about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:14 PM
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This spouse is usually the man, but this is slowly changing What's really changing? These marriages to they extent they even occur at all leave the women very dissatisfied. Can't blank slate woke away human nature
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:10 PM
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so you're only looking at the money you will spend or save Women vastly prefer higher earning men So only women are allowed to look out for their interests huh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:09 PM
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Boomer mentality (which makes sense that that's who made it) Note that he was divorced and not unmarried lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:08 PM
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Consistent access to hole feels good 🤷‍♂️ And yet younger generations are learning marriage isn't necessary for that anymore, hence marriage rates are declining (second marriages will necessarily be an older batch of men)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:07 PM
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"marriage is a bad deal for anyone who marries someone who at any point at or after marriage earns less than them"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:06 PM
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But it’s a little bit over-dramatic to make out that it’s this perilous trap that men are bamboozled into participating in. Generally speaking adults understand the risks, rewards, and potential outcomes of making what is broadly regarded as a serious compact with specific rights and responsibilities. Nah they just kinda fall into it. this is like saying people read all the internet terms and conditions they click accept on lol (and those are far less emotional circumstances where usually the co…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:05 PM
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All the men bitching about marriage forget that THEY initiated it, you’re the one who got down on one knee and popped the question. After badgering and whining and complaining and nagging and crying about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD. Women be out here saying asking for sex a second time is rape, so what do you call this shit show women do when they aren't getting their way in the relationship then Nobody forced you to get married. Yeah all they did was badger and whine and complain and nag and cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:03 PM
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Women do have a history of badgering and whining and complaining and nagging and crying about being a fOrEvEr GiRLfRiEnD, however. Even taking this asserted "need" for women as true (it's need for hole really) doesn't mean you have to marry
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 03:00 PM
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Everyone does, this isn’t based on gender. Marriage is a financial partnership, it’s a financial risk for anyone. It's a financial risk for the higher earner
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:59 PM
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Go ahead and have kids with a woman willing to be an unwed mom. See how that turns out. Over half of millennial births If you think the court system is biased against married men, just wait until you find out how biased it is against unwed fathers. Literally no difference
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:58 PM
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if you don't want to. You don't have to Could be said about every discussion topic on ppd yet here we are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:57 PM
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Why is not getting used for sex the only thing you all care about? People's interests aren't any better or worse because they don't happen to be your interests
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:56 PM
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Prolly also China
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:52 PM
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Isn't this that work dude
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:50 PM
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Flair checks out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:48 PM
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Leftovers is another term for unmarrieds after a certain age (akin to spinsters, confirmed bachelors, bare branches in China, and so on)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:47 PM
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Yet here you still are
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:45 PM
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I didn't see the word beautiful or hot there in your description of your past self lol. I'm just saying, the whistleblowers on male nature are likely to be the ones who aren't receiving the positive end of it, and hot women are the ones who get the good side because that's who men give a single flying fuck about, which is only natural and reasonable because hot women make men feel better than anything else in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 02:39 PM
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They sound fat. Attractive women don't tend to resent men so much because they get far more of the positives
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:02 AM
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They're posting there so odds are...only higher average weight/number of existing children would be FatautistDatingStrategy
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:01 AM
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r/thanksimcured
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 08:00 AM
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Do you think it was a coincidence that societies used to have so many rules in place to socialize the experience of wet peepeee
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:53 AM
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Suffering Equalizer
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:49 AM
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A good thing BTW. There's a tangible dollar figure that can be assigned to what divorce costs the divorcee' lol Hope it's worth it!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:47 AM
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License plate bingo?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:45 AM
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Men need to become much more picky and ignore all women any less than perfect How's that gonna work lol only so many perfect women to go around
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:43 AM

"do what you feel like" would wrap pretty much every discussion on ppd for good, and yet here we all are, aimlessly beating the same dead horse over and over again, day in and day out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/23 05:39 AM

You said this to the commenter above I mean sure if being a sex crazed manwhore is what you want to be then just embrace it Were you a virgin until marriage? If not, you're doing the exact thing you claim to be upset about I’m pointing out the hypocrisy of men who slutshame women but are no better. Or is it ok for you to do it because you're a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:01 PM

Or molestation victims or autism. It's usually not attractive well adjusted women who of course naturally benefit. Why would it be lol people follow their incentives
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:56 PM

But naturally you would never say this to an antimarriage woman You wouldn't have the balls
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:52 PM

almost never Or molestation victim Awomen Sometimes it's just autism
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:51 PM

Either all lawful slutshaming is ok or none is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:51 PM

Bluepillers really trying to have it both ways lol women choosing singlehood "a-ok" men choosing not to marry "awkward drives" pick a narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 04:46 PM

Women's toxicity is everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:39 PM

And then she has the nerve to wonder why she's running into the stuff she's reading
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:38 PM

On one hand, abusive men are getting all “pussy” (disgusting that you call women that) but as we saw from earlier this week most men are single between the ages of 18-29… Few men are being shared Women and girls should avoid males at all costs. Given that it's almost always unattractive girls who reach this conclusion, I'm not seeing any loss. Who gives one single shit about uglies
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:31 PM
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Ah interesting so slutshaming men is ok but slutshaming women isn't. Which question of yours isn't answered by your own comment? People prioritize their own interests. And that's their sovereign right to do so long as they're following the law.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:17 PM
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OP said even stop dating though lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:11 PM
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Family unit would make sense if permanent, and no fault takes all the permanence out of it. Better off pay a lawyer to replicate through document creation whatever those other desired benefits are. Fault only divorce or bust. Surely there are jurisdictions left that have it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:11 PM
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No reason or any reason
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:09 PM
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It's almost never attractive women who arrive at this conclusion is it. Wonder why that is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 12:05 PM
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This pearl of wisdom What’s the point of getting married if no fault divorce is legal? If you can get divorced for anything, you may as well not get married at all. Men not wanting to get married makes sense to be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 06:00 AM
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That's just semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:59 AM
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Like, prossies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:46 AM
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But what about pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:35 AM
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I'm probably going to stay single unless I change my mind and decide to get married Uhh
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/23 05:11 AM
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Why is innately wanting more inherently a "better" thing than innately wanting to put less effort/conserve effort/etc
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 11:12 PM
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I think that it’s mostly men for not wanting to put in the work to attract women as they gain more in society Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:38 PM
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People always follow their incentives, and this is the result (just as whatever preceded this was the result of people following their incentives)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:38 PM
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Yeah, I'm just saying, the OP's thing is no less and no more ridiculous
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 09:36 PM
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Interests are interests, autism is autism, numerically protecting interests is either equally autistic or equally unautistic
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 08:04 PM
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Pretty common for women doe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 05:17 PM
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How's it any more autistic than an "x number of dates and/or months before sex" rule
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/23 03:27 PM
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RP types don't seem to want to accept that looks and money and being chad aren't the only thing either, because all their hopes hinge on that. For casual. Their position is that marriage is untenable today.
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 06:38 AM
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How does that negate the hooker thing
/r/AllPillDebate28/02/23 01:38 AM
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What is the mechanism by which such a thing would occur
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 10:01 PM
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How's that gonna happen
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 09:13 PM
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Then it would be really easy to argue the opposite position, and yet I don't see any arguments, just childish insults
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 09:13 PM
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Tom Brady cheated or the other examples
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 08:21 PM
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Seems odd that that would be the only thing
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 07:18 PM
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Western society is everywhere, increasing daily
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 07:07 PM
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I've seen from anecdotal experience the most lazy slob unproductive guy marrying a Young highly productive beautiful female. In the same social class? Frequently?
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 03:10 AM
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The reality is: - the lazy unproductive low IQ low labor man is getting LAID without doing any self improvement bs I'm saying that we have an "FACTOR X", that's COMPLETELY UNRELATED TO what we call "MERIT or HARD WORK or GAME" or whatever. Lower standards?
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 02:58 AM
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Grass on the field
/r/AllPillDebate27/02/23 12:59 AM
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