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1

Just fucking own it and stop listening to blackpillers. Do meds if you want but for you, not for bitches. Or shave it off. Tons of balding guys get laid on the reg, you see it, but blackpill shit doesn't want you to notice
/r/seduction21/06/25 10:49 PM
4

This is important. Many guys think dating is like a sport or a video game. They talk about things "not counting" or "cheating" (in the sense of doing something unusual just to get experience) as if they owed to the world playing by some kind of "ruleset", act like they are "unlocking achievements" and seem to act like they have a "stain" in their record.
/r/seduction27/05/25 01:29 AM
2

Do not discount your hooker experiences. Experience is experience. Many men had empty first times just like that, be it with a hooker or an awkward hook up with someone they never saw again, it's okay. It is part of your history now. "hah, my first time? I went to a hooker and it was so awkward hahahaha" Don't deny your nature. People go there because they're horny. You can do it again without that self loathing and focus on one thing: You're horny and want to have something more than just jacki…
/r/seduction26/05/25 05:34 PM
1

Yeah, lately every time I open a post here it's less "waaaah this will never work for me" but the same people now acting like "Hahaha you didn't fuck her in 30min and aren't rich, she's now getting railed get depressed you loser"
/r/seduction20/05/25 04:52 PM
1

To seem tough and demoralize others.
/r/seduction20/05/25 12:46 AM
0

Blackpillers who adopt PUA language to seem tough as a cope. They only show up here to piss off and demoralize people getting out of their comfort zone.
/r/seduction20/05/25 12:46 AM
14

Get therapy. Do not listen to PUA gurus. Do not listen to blackpillers. Do not listen to coping blackpill PUA posers. Nothing is true, everything is permitted. I'm happy now.
/r/seduction19/05/25 05:17 PM
-2

That's a lie. If she really felt like that she wouldn't tell that to you, she'd just step away thinking to herself "not today" Telling you that excuse is a power play to make you feel less important and not insist, or a mind game because they tell each other that they "have to make you work for it". Either one ain't worth it. I'd just take it as a rejection and not waste any more time or brain cells on her.
/r/seduction11/05/25 01:24 AM
3

Another pov is the shaky self esteem. People crave validation and a rejection is a confirmation of the negative self talk
/r/seduction08/05/25 09:14 PM
1

This doesn't work if you have bad self esteem, and I assure you the average man who's trying to self improve with women has shitty self esteem. Rejection when you already think you deserve nothing will create a downwards spiral of negativity. Therapy might be needed first.
/r/seduction25/04/25 10:17 PM
41

This is a simple way to put it instead of going for the dumb "pua pusher speak". But next time you use AI to compose the text, remove the long dashes and it will look better.
/r/seduction02/03/25 06:10 AM
1

Nobody cares. Life ain't a video game where you "fail" because you cheated. Plenty of married men and in relationships go see hookers because of many reasons, be it frustration, or because they're hedonistic. Other single men do it because they just want NSA sex. Some hookers even expect men with little to no experience and are used to it. You will be fine. You have pent up sexual frustration. Deal with that, and the anxiety that holds you back will go down. You'll even have free rein to act lik…
/r/seduction27/01/25 08:53 PM
5

He is trolling you
/r/seduction27/01/25 03:05 PM
10

Reddit moment
/r/seduction22/01/25 03:43 PM
1

BTC, PTT
/r/seduction12/12/24 11:46 PM
3

Dating is supposed to be fun. Therefore, shit tests are supposed to be part of said fun. So take them as friendly roasting. That's ALL it should be. Men get surprised and lose their composure because they're not expecting it from a woman, or they're just weak all around. You have all the right to "get the ick" at some woman who doesn't know how to shit test and comes out like a bitch, instead of enduring someone's unpleasantness just because the PUA salesmen say that you still have to try to get…
/r/seduction14/10/24 05:04 PM
2

Text him first, but not necessarily to set dates. Just to signal "I was thinking of you". Even if it is for a goddamn meme. Otherwise, he's thinking you don't want him first and he's just your backup when the guy you do text first isn't available. If he responds badly, it ain't there anyway.
/r/seduction27/08/24 03:15 AM
28

Go away cuck, this is not a sub for degenerates
/r/seduction05/08/24 09:32 AM
2

You could talk about personal things but do it with a strong tone. Reframing them as worries that you accept but won't let you get the best of you. "it sucks, but it is what it is. We all gotta deal with it and move on" or something like that, showing resilience I guess.
/r/seduction10/07/24 01:30 AM
-13

Just don't be a "bobs and vegana" creep
/r/seduction02/07/24 10:38 PM
2

The sub crapped out when it turned into frustrated people just looking for ways to call others the i-word or the v-word just to feel better about themselves and LARP as pick up artists to strangers on Reddit. Jeez, no wonder they call it Soyyit.
/r/seduction08/05/24 05:12 PM
0

What do YOU want? You don't have to put up with disrespectful shit just to get some. If she definitely lost your respect or you're feeling that she's looking down upon you, you're not less of a man for leaving. But maybe it's not that bad. Maybe she was just being teasing and not really looking down upon you, but there's more context needed. At least you could act like "well excuuuuuuuse me princess" in a mocking back way.
/r/seduction24/04/24 04:30 PM
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It doesn't matter what you do, what you want or how you feel. This sub will always find a way to diss you and bring you down.
/r/seduction24/04/24 08:53 AM
2

Top kek, as they say
/r/seduction22/04/24 09:30 AM
5

Oh, emojis are gonna anger the pua gods They're betraying their boomer thought. Late Millenials and especially Gen Z can't live without them.
/r/seduction27/06/23 08:21 PM
2

I will get anxious and I will make a fool of myself again. I just wish I could have a way to play it off. Do I just acknowledge I'm nervous? Am I allowed to be nervous like a kid and not be looked down upon like some back-of-the-bus loser trying to damage control because he is "that guy" forever? I feel like I could get angry and demand respect "hey, I'm a fucking person. I have the right to be nervous!"
/r/seduction07/04/23 09:00 PM
2

Therapy is a long term investment. In the mean time, I have to mitigate, excuse myself for my reaction or damage control this somehow, some way to play it off. I don't want to wait until I'm 40 and kinda cured. I wasn't ever violent back then. I just shut down in shame. I had better experiences (really good ones!) in other places but despite that, I was still The Loser at college. That's all some people know about me to this day. And I was so weak I wasn't able to prove anyone wrong. It wasn't t…
/r/seduction07/04/23 06:32 PM
4

Not exaggerating. Many years ago I went through some public humiliation in college, related to a rejection I wasn't able to defend myself from nor prove anyone wrong, followed of years of being "spited" by the girl in question and everyone else seeing the pity circus. Ran away from 3 women that were interested and were much much better because I was psychologically wasted. Spent years coasting by, in and out of depression. Dated desperate 2s that clung to me, only proving that I was garbage dese…
/r/seduction07/04/23 10:15 AM
1

The problem is, unless I get approached first, I get PTSD anxiety. Hole in my stomach, shaking hands, shaking voice, tachycardia. That kinds puts me down there with the worst kind of people despite me not being like that, instead being still respectful and "calm in theory".
/r/seduction07/04/23 09:22 AM
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There's this shame over rejection, that goes beyond just the personal feelings, but more of a shame over being such a clueless idiot relatively late in life and being "found out" about such lack of experience, as if that was some kind of crime deserving of more rejection. They think they're going to out themselves so bad, women will think "not only I didn't like him, nobody ever did and he should be punished and ridiculed for it, learn your place you *i-word*" and men will think "don't let him g…
/r/seduction12/10/22 02:48 PM
1

This is the fucking post I was looking for.
/r/seduction05/07/22 05:27 AM
1

A guy without the necessity to prove anything.
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:32 PM
1

Nah. Social media would be a detriment to me. I don't like sharing stuff, I don't give a shit about making a big deal out of my own stuff to parade it on the internet. So having a half hearted, forced profile on IG and risk having my autistic crap bleed through, where if you're not showing stuff off or have too little with nobody celebrating but the same couple of close friends, it means you're either just a simp for other bigger profiles or essentially a nobody on par with a dork, since you hav…
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:26 PM
6

How to deflect the diss more like.
/r/seduction04/07/22 06:08 PM
1

This is the end result of buying too much into PUA salesmen. They try to instill the guilt of failure in you. So you end up even more scared. Me, I'm a fucking autistic mess. Guess how disastrous it was when I was overthinking shit because of PUA materials. The only time I started having success was when I learned to shut off my hyperactive brain and be brave enough to wing it.
/r/seduction29/05/22 06:22 AM
1

I agree with OP. "Why" is the passive aggressive opposite of a "Fuck yeah"
/r/seduction28/05/22 01:42 AM
1

Cringe.
/r/seduction28/05/22 01:38 AM
1

Well, too bad, but it is what it is. I can't change the world or shame others for treating me like a weirdo in a knee jerk way. Only study people, adapt and infiltrate, and only after I've gotten close to someone and had so much fun I break the news "well actually, turns out I'm autistic". And all the time I get the same answer: "wow, that explains why you are a bit different, but if you hadn't told me I wouldn't have realized it, that's cool". I never got anywhere when I used to behave like the…
/r/seduction20/05/22 06:18 PM
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Stop denying reality, we ARE cumbersome unless we adapt. It's not on the rest to put up with our quirks, it's on US to keep them under control and not alienate people.
/r/seduction20/05/22 05:20 PM
1

You mean play with the Switch that her wife's boyfriend bought him, while they're fucking in the same house. Man milk for her, soy milk for him.
/r/seduction20/05/22 02:17 AM
2

Stop replying to BLM cultists.
/r/seduction19/05/22 08:46 PM
2

The fucking blackpillers in disbelief that reality is not like their meme narrative are sickening
/r/seduction11/05/22 04:03 AM
1

Another thing is that you don't necessarily have to match her in social life. This guy is a loner, but he keeps it cool. I've made the mistake of ignoring girls that seem very outgoing and popular because I thought "I bet she's gonna look down upon me because I'm not like her circle or her previous guys" because I'm a guy with few friends who are even more reclusive than I am, and I love to go out alone. Turns out other people who are more social think I'm cool because I'm self sufficient most o…
/r/seduction11/05/22 03:55 AM
1

Hell, that's how I've gotten most of the pussy I've had. I'm uselessly terrified of making the first move, and I've had a terrible self image. Only when a woman has shown interest first I feel "allowed" to be myself and open up.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:03 AM
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I'm not interested in the pickup lifestyle. I just wanted to be normal. And I'll never be, but I found my own way to turn it around. Now I'm proudly self-styled. I learned a lot but didn't really assimilate or believe it, or in myself. What made it all change? Getting a job. I started dealing with so many people, all the stuff I learned but never used started coming to me. Now I'm still kinda shy, but normal shy, not doomer shy.
/r/seduction01/05/22 05:01 AM
1

Damn right. Currently, I'm active in FB (public commenting on stuff), Twitter (shooting the shit), Whatsapp (socializing tool) and Telegram (circlejerks) If I wanna share stuff with my tiny social circle, I use Whatsapp or FB's status sharing. The equivalent for places where Whatsapp is not popular would be Snapchat, I guess. On IG, you have to make an effort to look cool, not relax and and shoot the shit, you either compete for attention or become part of the attention, and if you do too little…
/r/seduction29/04/22 11:11 PM
3

Something I've come to realize about what we always do when we fuck it up: we're acting like clowns because we are ashamed of the possibility of sexual tension and we think it's awkward. Or we make it awkward because of our shame. So we're actively trying to defuse it. All because of the garbage indoctrination that "men are wrong/men only think about sex/women are pure" or something like that. You eventually will wake up and stop denying your own nature, but that takes time and experience. So yo…
/r/seduction25/04/22 05:46 PM
3

As an autistic dude: our pedantry gets us nowhere. The old adage still applies: Adapt or die. We don't make the rules, the world is illogical. Observe, copy, internalize, infiltrate. I've come to love being illogical, because it's fun. Square thoughts are only allowed at work, and at home.
/r/seduction25/04/22 05:33 PM
1

Lol I didn't realize it was a girl. Different scenario.
/r/seduction12/04/22 06:00 PM
-3

Hooker? Getting the act outta the way might feel like a weight off your shoulders, it's gonna be hot and fun, and you'll gain experience. Think of it as an investment on training.
/r/seduction12/04/22 02:17 PM
1

This. We're not supposed to be thinking we're hot shit, just comfortable enough with ourselves that we can be able to shut down our logical brains and live in the moment, not the past or the future.
/r/seduction12/04/22 07:20 AM
2

Yeah, the guy has to realize by himself he's going nowhere and that he should move on, your role is to just stand your ground and make the woman follow along which leads to her not paying attention to him. No need to destroy his self esteem. He is one of us too, trying to self improve. This reminds me of a party where a guy was trying to AMOG me by flaunting how he was the one fucking a girl... Who I wasn't even interested in. He came off so hamfisted it looked ridiculous and insecure, the girl …
/r/seduction12/04/22 07:06 AM
1

Real reason, because otherwise I get paranoid and depressed that she might have thought I was a blackpill loser (I refuse to type the i-word). And I'm not, but old psychological issues run deep.
/r/seduction05/04/22 03:31 AM
1

ABOBONABAGUAGUA
/r/seduction25/03/22 07:25 PM
2

Maybe, but my intentions are to dismantle the blackpiller truthers and render their shit moot. A heavy dose of reality, not their doomer shit.
/r/seduction16/03/22 07:04 AM
6

Do it.
/r/seduction15/03/22 03:11 PM
2

You sound like me. Too bitter about the past to live in the present. The hookers worked for me because porn wasn't enough, I was scratching an itch. Eventually I started forgetting the past. Haven't gotten over it, but I can be who I am now. It's just that I'm obsessed with proving that I I have changed, or that failures will mean I haven't changed. But it took too long for me to heal by myself. Get therapy, and never reject something good in front of you.
/r/seduction15/03/22 03:02 PM
1

Jesus fucking Christ this post got SWARMED by blackpillers and smartasses
/r/seduction12/03/22 04:52 AM
1

You're totally out of the mark with the post. He clearly implies he has had plenty of action with them, but it's not fulfilling.
/r/seduction07/03/22 04:46 AM
2

I'd do the same as him. I love women and I'm gonna treat them right because it's in my nature, and that has no bearing on my future plans. I guess he's trying to keep some distance precisely because he's treating you well, to avoid making the relationship too serious. I'm at a similar situation right now, and it's kinda troubling. Met a woman for casual sex. We clicked so much sexually, we had to do it again. And again. And we don't want to stop. But between each intercourse there's a growing ca…
/r/seduction07/03/22 04:14 AM
0

Depends on the input. Girls here saying "guys, do this" doesn't work because of the old adage "you don't ask the fish for techniques", on the other hand girls speaking about their reactions like the OP does work.
/r/seduction07/03/22 03:50 AM
6

In before the blackpiller comments saying "u must be rich or tall"
/r/seduction05/03/22 04:39 PM
7

A stupid meme that should be ignored alongside anyone who uses it seriously
/r/seduction05/03/22 04:38 PM
1

Aspergers.
/r/seduction05/03/22 11:59 AM
4

Not advice, but a kind of subtext in the way PUA salesmen and gurus talk to you. "there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, lovesick turbodorks and emotionless turbochads, whose side are you on? Don't fucking question me you fucking pussy a turbochad doesn't do that and just HITS THAT SHIT" This shit is preying on an inexperienced guy's lack of knowledge about the world and how big is the diversity of men, women and couples, and only stresses them out so they desperately cling to the PUA ma…
/r/seduction05/03/22 03:04 AM
1

I wouldn't. Antagonizing someone in desperation with so called "tough love memes" and the i-word impresses nobody, and might have the opposite effect if he's currently emotionally unstable. The last I'd like is to help create another jaded blackpiller.
/r/seduction05/03/22 02:55 AM
1

Stereotyping works for a reason. He sounds newcomerish, so it's likely he's still shaky in his self esteem or anxiety around girls. Getting stood up then laughed at is a huge blow to a shaky foundation. I was there once. And it's hard to consider that solution knowing that you've gotten a nice share of public humiliation. It's likely that will lead him to act as a tryhard as compensation. Or be seen as compensating. Even if the other chicks might consider him dateable knowing he was rejected lik…
/r/seduction05/03/22 01:21 AM
0

I love how you guys love this retarded response to guys who were clueless enough to be stuck in this shit expecting them to somehow turn into Super Confident overnight to take revenge "fucking her friends"
/r/seduction04/03/22 07:07 PM
2

I love how you guys love this retarded response to guys who were clueless enough to be stuck in this shit expecting them to somehow turn into Super Confident overnight to take revenge "fucking her friends"
/r/seduction04/03/22 07:07 PM
1

Point 4: I'm terrified of the i-word or being labeled with it, terrified of what I used to be, I feel like living in some Jekyll/Hyde dilemma where I think the old "dork" me is still there, just buried deep down and my lack of experience approaching/initiating/escalating will make them see it. women only view them as playthings for cruel amusement. You are some disgusting. Freak who creeped her out and you were. A fool to ever think she would have been interested. In fact shes probably with chad…
/r/seduction01/03/22 04:59 AM
7

In your situation, I've been treated as the fifth wheel daycare kid. "Don't introduce him single women, just more couples"
/r/seduction01/03/22 02:33 AM
1

How many people are "faking" being normal could you identify? I can't, because despite how much I've managed to adapt and learn body language and nonverbal communication, some social cues and hidden intentions still go over my head. I'm reminded every day of that, when me and my female relatives review a previous interaction with someone "Did you notice the subliminal message when X said Y?" 90% of the time, my answer is no. If it's difficult for you to identify people like that, then it's diffi…
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:52 AM
1

That’s not really what goes on here, ok? Is it though? It happened to me (it didn't, it just felt like it) back in my freshman year of college and I still can't forget the humiliation. It wasn't that wide though, just the woman who after rejecting me decided to rub it in my face for years and sabotage my approaches to other girls, and some guys who targeted me, also sabotaged me, and were openly willing to brand me as undateable and hopeless. The i-word (the one which describes blackpillers and …
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:06 AM
2

Hmmm. As a late bloomer I feel you. Not interested in women my age, they're boring or too serious, therefore they'll will look down upon me or see me as old news for having a "lighter" way of looking at relationships. Ironically I like them sexually, but nothing more. The relationship feels like having another mom instead of a partner.
/r/seduction01/03/22 12:00 AM
2

they are more likely to be worried about what others think of them as well. Well, that's kinda hard to accept when you've spent all the time feeling like everyone else has this secret understanding they all know, as a "normie mafia" and I, as a high functioning autistic dude, don't. But you're right. After all in retrospect, people see me as more confident than what I really am.
/r/seduction28/02/22 11:53 PM
1

I kinda feel ashamed to do it in public. As if I'm gonna seem "trying to put an act" instead of just a simple "oh I was in a bad posture"
/r/seduction28/02/22 11:35 PM
0

They already did, but I grew back the psychological dick over the years. Consider me a Woke Cancer Survivor.
/r/seduction22/02/22 07:31 AM
1

I had a friend who was attractive. I didn't like her face, but I couldn't deny she was attractive as hell. Yet I never felt any attraction to her beyond seeing that she was objectively hot, and ironically everyone wanted us to get together. As far as I know she's still single because her personality is weird and somehow becomes dick repellent (To the point I'm now seeing a woman whose face is noticeably below her, but I'm definitely attracted to her) According to what she'd tell me, it's like sh…
/r/seduction22/02/22 01:42 AM
4

I don't blame OLD. I blame wokeness. Psychological castration.
/r/seduction22/02/22 12:29 AM
1

Just talk about something in her profile to get the ball rolling. No cringe pickup lines you wouldn't say yourself IRL.
/r/seduction12/02/22 03:46 AM
5

The black version of Chad, essentially.
/r/seduction27/01/22 11:36 PM
1

This is a time bomb and it's better that you set it off instead of the inevitable humiliation that will come when she does. Start hanging out with girls. Cheat before she does. She WILL.
/r/seduction25/01/22 04:33 PM
2

If you have no interest in sharing pics to glorify whatever you do daily just to present a façade, don't do it. It will come out forced. People act like everyone wants to show everyone else what they do, and that they should. I don't use IG, I hate it, I have no interest in showing my life around nor having an empty profile to like other people's posts like a simp, I think it's pretty much Onlyfans Lite, and I will stand my ground on that. In practice, it hasn't really mattered. All women who ha…
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:57 PM
1

Oh god. This is what I'm doing at work with my coworker, but specifically because I'm not interested in her at all and I just don't give a shit and want to make the work day fun so I just babble whatever random stuff that comes out from my head, and I'm pretty uninhibited when it comes to banter in general. And she gets flirtier in response. I just go "mmm hmmm yep" at her, I won't flirt back. She is totally unattractive and I've had pathetically low standards already back when I was at my rope'…
/r/seduction25/01/22 03:50 PM
0

Not on me, they say that about it in general. The smell from the bottle after it's been used. Hell, I've gotten "oh, you smell good, what are you wearing?" Aventus... "I told you to not wear that shit! How did I not realize it's that horrible cologne?"
/r/seduction08/01/22 06:46 PM
3

Women in my family tell me to not wear it because "it smells like balls" Then why the fuck it's so popular?
/r/seduction08/01/22 05:50 PM
2

You have to be a wannabe influencer and constantly play a character. Constantly upload shit, if you don't, you are nobody. And make it varied so that you can compete with everyone else, even the women you wanna attract, because you gotta be on an equal or higher level otherwise you'll be just another simp in the DMs.
/r/seduction05/01/22 01:44 AM
1

A big problem is that pushy PUA salesman tactics make you feel like it's your fault for not feeling it, and not because you did not like her, and anything less than still trying to push it despite your clear discomfort means you are an "i-word chump failure go back to your porn you loser, real men don't quit and always are successful, you should be grateful I'm offering help, but JOIN MY MAILING LIST, BUY MY BOOK" Be a little selfish, think of what YOU want, not what you are supposedly "supposed…
/r/seduction19/11/21 02:06 AM
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To be honest, a former friend tried to humiliate me when she found out that I got rejected by a mutual acquaintance, arguing that I should be metoo'd by her. Apparently it didn't matter that I took the rejection respectfully, somehow she was "off limits" because I was supposed to be aware she had a boyfriend (the girl in question never said so, not even while rejecting me, she just said she wasn't interested) and somehow the act of trying to get with her was a sin.
/r/seduction16/11/21 09:58 PM
0

https://c.tenor.com/89sFftiAzF8AAAAd/hate-oh-i-hate-you.gif
/r/seduction02/10/21 05:04 AM
4

"I know."
/r/seduction01/10/21 06:03 PM
1

Late BLOOMER man, get it right hahaha I'm kinda in the same boat, same aims, I've never wanted to be a Gigachad, just normal (PUA pushers can't grasp the idea of this). But I've done it at a different rhythm, I slowly woke up from age 19 to 24 but living through horrible humiliation, trauma and depression, had a long relationship, fell back into depression because it was a bad relationship, then relived the same progress from age 19-24 but from 27 to 32 but this time without the trauma and depre…
/r/seduction28/09/21 10:21 PM
4

Indeed. The fact of the matter is, if it isn't true to yourself, don't do it. I used to be very active a few years ago because I was a clown. I stopped caring around the time when the focus switched to IG, because at least on FB you can have conversations about other stuff. On IG, it's just commenting on someone else's humblebrags or humblebragging yourself, and if you're just commenting, you're no different than an onlyfans simp, just for free.
/r/seduction28/09/21 08:08 PM
3

No. Yeah, it's harder if so, but so is harder to try keeping an active social media presence when you just don't feel like building some character to compete with other social media characters and the hordes of simps liking and DMing. I just have a bare FB to comment on groups and news, an even more bare Twitter just to read what others write, and Whatsapp to communicate and share stuff more personally with people I know in real life. I don't feel like taking pictures of every insignificant shit…
/r/seduction28/09/21 06:51 PM
4

But the more that I think about it the more I just want to tell her na Im good.. This is the key. The question everyone should be making is not "what I'm supposed to do?" but "what do I really want?" People say "be yourself bro" but the real shit should be this: Be true TO yourself. Your guts want to bail? Bail. At this point it looks like if if you keep pushing, it'll only bring awkwardness, and deep down you know it. Moving on when you're keeping your cool is better than when your confidence h…
/r/seduction28/09/21 06:37 PM
5

If you get that disapproving patronizing rejecting look when things are going nowhere, turn it around and act first before it gets too awkward. Instead of going all "ok... i'm sorry..." and backing off all defeated, you leave because you don't like that, and make it evident you're rejecting her because of it. You gotta put yourself first: Don't focus on being liked or "measuring up" to whatever standards she has and you can't know, focus on whether you like her/the exchange or not. They pull thi…
/r/seduction26/09/21 06:01 AM
7

In my experience the crazy Redditor-type girls are on Tinder with cringe virtue signal and jilted "i'm not here because I want dick you [insert slur of choice], swipe left if you breathe" profiles. In a way that makes them easier to deal with in Tinder because they make it evident.
/r/seduction23/09/21 07:11 PM
1

I see jealousy as a weakness. Like school bullies humiliating you to get a reaction, so they can do it more.
/r/seduction14/09/21 10:58 PM
1

Incest? Is that what "i-word" is? No, I mean that buzzword that ends with an L and is a synonym for blackpiller. I won't ever use it, it sickens me, and I fear being seen as one if I become too awkward and inept, lowering the social value I've busted my ass to achieve, especially because I used to be like the guys who come to this sub all depressed and hopeless, and the public shame I had to go through, that shit sticks with you. It does 100% count, how you feel inside what you'll project on the…
/r/seduction14/09/21 10:52 PM
2

"it was just a shit test bruh" Is it worth it, though? I think I'd get PTSD and get turned off.
/r/seduction14/09/21 03:08 PM
2

As I've said below I have a plan, if I get into the "do I like her?" mindset instead of the "please like me, don't kill me" tryhard mindset, I think I can do these baby steps without losing my cool :) You wouldn't wanna see the confident buddy you're having fun with suddenly collapse into a stuttering, hunched sack of PTSD begging for forgiveness over his own existence because he liked a girl, don't you? I swear on my cat's grave I will not turn into that ever again!
/r/seduction14/09/21 02:48 PM
1

Well, there's a lot of stuff that makes me feel cool and worthy, I'll work on more stuff to strengthen my "winner" side, like learning the guitar at last, yet... It's like it doesn't count when it comes to approaching girls. The conditioning I've been through is strong as hell, almost full on impostor syndrome. My plan to sidestep it is to be the one looking to be impressed instead of trying to impress, and hopefully have an emotional crutch so that the stakes are lower in my mind and I don't ge…
/r/seduction14/09/21 07:17 AM
1

Yeah, but I meant it in a simple sense, approach the ones who catch my eye instead of settling for whoever approached me even if I don't really like them. I think "As long as whoever sees me thinks I like her and that it was a success, it's okay", it's enough to keep me sane, but it ain't doing me any favors. It's not about being a "good" dancer, it's about being normal like the 90% of guys who just exist there without being pitiful.
/r/seduction13/09/21 03:51 PM
1

Cool guy rep is the guy that one that is just having fun and enjoying themselves, girls will be attracted to that. The times I've been successful it's been because of this, I'm fired up enough that everyone's following my lead and I get lucky and the girls approach me first, and I'm not thinking at all when someone makes the first move on me. I end up proving myself when I wasn't trying to do that, because I never lost my cool and the "IOIs" were encouraging. But that's not enough, I want to be …
/r/seduction13/09/21 06:13 AM
5

Focus on whether you like her personality instead on whether she likes you. THANK YOU I HAD FORGOTTEN MY OWN EPIPHANY oh, it's the fuckin' lockdown that made me forget it. But seriously, THIS is the best way to not turn into an awkward creep if you already have some confidence or coolness outside of dealing with women.
/r/seduction13/09/21 03:50 AM
3

I wish I could be like this, but rejection leaves me dead in the floor of my room ashamed for a week wanting to be swallowed by the earth and cursing the fact that all my "cool guy" rep has been ruined and I'm now equated with an i-word freak. It's way too psychologically draining. Imagine you had a low end PC you had to clean, refit, rewire, reformat, reinstall, set up and all that to install an online game. You log in and start playing... and then not only you get shot down in less than 5 seco…
/r/seduction13/09/21 03:27 AM
1

Back in the day? in 2005 you got dogpiled on for getting rebuffed, it was always your fault and you were always a "loser", there were no excuses or questions - to try to think was met with claims of "if you have to ask then you're a fucking loser"
/r/seduction12/09/21 04:51 AM
3

I'm in a similar boat, my biggest fear is to be so bad at it, I'll be shamed for being that bad at my age, and thrown the i-word or some other assorted humiliating defamations aimed at destroying me, belittling everything else that is going on with me, and ruin my reputation around other women. Nobody wants a social retard, so you don't get experience, as if every time you tried to play an online game everyone kills you in less than a second before you had a chance to react and no one helps you …
/r/seduction12/09/21 04:40 AM
19

You still have to do some active measures to meet and choose them instead of "trusting the odds"... women won't "arrive" in your life just by themselves, not for a lot of us, or they will but they'll be way below your standards. By doing my thing, keeping myself in great shape and "letting them come eventually", I ended up dating the ugliest legbeard in my college. I got a lot of times "how could a handsome guy like you date someone like that instead of someone of your league?" Well, the ones in…
/r/seduction12/09/21 03:38 AM
1

Never underestimate weaponized autism.
/r/seduction11/09/21 03:50 AM
2

Call me a tinfoiler but I think it's a brigade campaign from the blackpill dens of the internet
/r/seduction10/09/21 11:27 PM
1

Aloof as fuck and my neck stretches in a smug, uncomfortable way. As if I was trying to say "I am immune to your charms, I won't lower my defenses, I will not simp or let you mock me"
/r/seduction10/09/21 07:50 AM
2

My advice? Ignore or block the persistent blackpillers and doomers. Avoid the i-word.
/r/seduction09/09/21 08:14 PM
3

This is me, because I know if I ever try to take initiative and make the approach instead of just responding to someone approaching me, all my confidence will evaporate and I'll shut down in nervousness, paranoia, defensiveness and awkwardness like a nerdy teen half my age. And knowing that I'm behaving like this at my age feels even more condemning! So whenever I'm around someone I like and did not approach me first, I become way too aloof, and I stretch my neck in a smug way that I hate, yet I…
/r/seduction09/09/21 04:00 AM
1

"only smashing in a car" being considered an acceptable way to do stuff long term is fucking retarded at least in a crappy motel you can actually do more than just putting it in through a gap in the partially removed pants
/r/seduction08/09/21 06:40 PM
1

Heh, I would think it's the total opposite. I feel too old to be awkward like a shy teenager. You see how it's popular in social media to scorn and destroy people like that.
/r/seduction07/09/21 10:12 PM
1

Of course the game is the same, but with the 30s there comes a slew of prejudices that don't favor men in 30s. The less educated ones feel like they are "racing against the clock" to settle to merely "just date", the more successful ones inflate their standards just for the image, can't be the one dating a guy she can't brag about to her friends right? Or they just want a guy they don't really care about beyond having him fill the role of "the man" in a routine relationship that falls second to …
/r/seduction07/09/21 05:40 PM
1

I know that, but I feel the opposite in my subconsciousness. Fact: people who have witnessed both me taming a party while having girls throw themselves at me AND me at a second party puking and embarrassing the hell outta myself in front of the girl I hooked up... remember more the former and still thought I was cool. But then the ghost of that chick from 2006 appears and tells me "it doesn't matter what you do, you are still a dickless i-word no matter how much to try to play the opposite and e…
/r/seduction07/09/21 02:20 AM
1

I just want to be defined by something else, something new, and be able to be myself even if it's immature and childish. Something so great it erases the past. They say everyone goes at his own pace, right? Well then I want my pace to be respected. So I can come back from these 15 years of fruitlessly compensating and feeling like everything since that has been just a detour from how things are supposed to be, and every experience is just "the loser getting plastic consolation prizes devoid of h…
/r/seduction06/09/21 09:58 PM
1

Sorry to bother you. I need to write this down anyway if I go into therapy, I thought it'd be short but then I realized it was a huge wall of text. 15 years ago during the college freshman year I got rejected, but it didn't end there. I was willing to move on, but they didn't let me. There was another girl I didn't pay attention to, who was much better than the first one, and my "friend" got with her just to spite me and put me down after I was already down over the first one, using my gloomy mo…
/r/seduction06/09/21 07:43 PM
1

Realize women only start taking dating seriously after THEIR 30s, because of obvious biological/societal factors. Meaning they're looking for a provider in a loveless marriage or filling the "bf job position" to not be single in front of their friends, and they're above having "fun" in a relationship because they've already gone through all and looking with disdain at the things that are new and exciting to you.
/r/seduction06/09/21 06:41 PM
1

Respect? Even if it's awkward? Be honest.
/r/seduction06/09/21 07:35 AM
1

Me acting shy and awkward because I think everything I do is the wrong move, then come off so fearful of violating some personal space and having my insecurities confirmed, that my voice and my stomach shake as if I was begging to not be hurt for trying, and being compared to the average younger normal guy that approaches them and failing to measure up to the "fun group leader man" I usually act like, then learning nothing and ending up as a depressed wreck feeling unworthy again. That is what I…
/r/seduction06/09/21 06:56 AM
1

More specifically let me learn to act first. If I get disqualified from the get go for acting like a freak at this age, I'm never going to learn anything. Just wait to get approached again when the stars align. I know not everyone is going to mock me for coming off like that but you know what everyone is going to be thinking. It's okay to come off like a freak at age 17, not so much after 30 - you get called the i-word and you know what people say about that, it's everywhere. Nobody wants to low…
/r/seduction06/09/21 06:20 AM
1

I didn't choose the mindset, it's how the world acts. You get disqualified from even practicing for being "red flags" and humiliated or patronized for even trying so you're stuck on Level 1. As I said, nobody wants to bear with the (socially) disabled freak, because it brings down your image. Most people who got their shit together later on were just lucky to just find someone that threw them a bone for pity, or looked down at them as a nonthreatening tool to settle, not even a drop of genuine f…
/r/seduction06/09/21 01:20 AM
1

Thanks. I'm kinda doing that already, focusing on myself. I'm studying for some nice respectable trades, makes me feel like I am a man. But right now, if you told me to just go approach someone, I'd be so defensive I'd be an asshole. "Just make fun of me and tell everyone, I know you're doing that on the inside because I'm a freak unlike the 678987678 guys you've met already" I know I can improve, otherwise I wouldn't be the guy people assume must be drowning in poon lol (my first gf assumed my …
/r/seduction06/09/21 01:12 AM
1

Yeah, I'm cautiously optimistic as long as I keep doing my own thing. I'm mildly autistic, slowly building myself a life, there are a few women who really appreciate me because I didn't feel any pressure to measure up to whatever they want, so the one I'm kinda seeing now, she made the first move obviously, it's the only thing that makes me confidently go all out as it should be, as if I'm given the clear that I'm being treated as a man already and not as the joke I used to be but I still feel e…
/r/seduction05/09/21 11:29 PM
1

True, but it's practical. It hides what I hate from myself and what people would ruthlessly seek to put down. People just see my "winner" side, and there's no need to show my loser side. I'm sick of the "moral victories" that no one outside myself appreciates after making a fool outta myself and putting a big "kick me" sign on my back.
/r/seduction05/09/21 09:12 PM
1

I'm too old to be clueless and awkward. I'm just gonna out myself as fair game to be ridiculed and gain no experience. They'll fling the goddamn i-word at me and ruin my reputation. The cool guy everyone sees minding his own business? Reduced to just being eligible to pity fucks from women who look down upon you. Would rather just let them come when I'm already being myself, that works 90% of the time but it happens once on a blue moon, and my image isn't ruined.
/r/seduction05/09/21 07:58 PM
1

OP, what do you think of this? My personal stake on this is that I'm terrified of being labeled as an i-word. I'm kinda like thelambofdeth here, I'm well kept, fun to be around, kinda like the "cool nerd" with an outgoing streak, and I sporadically get action because the woman has initiated and I respond, but this means I've never chosen anyone, I get chosen and I take it. But tell me to initiate myself and I shut down in panic, all my extrovertedness and confidence vanishes, because I feel like…
/r/seduction02/09/21 01:24 AM
3

Technically the i-word is mostly a label that stock dumbasses from social media put on whoever doesn't share their opinion on whatever nontroversy The ones who self apply the label are just blackpill doomers who need therapy and a hard dose of hedonism.
/r/seduction01/09/21 07:34 PM
2

He is kinda right. There's a point where you don't click with the people you live with because you're so far behind. You're looking for different things, say a more carefree relationship while everyone around you wants "the serious bf job" and your way of thinking is met with disdain, any sort of playfulness is considered "childish"
/r/seduction01/09/21 07:27 PM
2

Stop using Tinder. It's just dumbasses looking for simps to populate their Instagram (onlyfans lite). Try other app.
/r/seduction01/09/21 07:10 PM
1

South America actually. We use it as the default SMS replacement.
/r/seduction24/08/21 01:53 PM
1

Yeah, that's what I mean by being myself on Whatsapp. I talk to friends and comment on each other statuses which is our way of showing activity. Getting a girl into that sphere is what I would do. I loathe IG culture, it's like onlyfans lite.
/r/seduction24/08/21 01:32 PM
1

Fuck instagram, I'd rather be myself over Whatsapp. If you "need" to be a fake IG "character" for some people, they ain't worth it to me.
/r/seduction24/08/21 05:14 AM
1

I do, helps a lot.
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:23 AM
1

You must remind yourself that failing does not equate to failure. The people who we're trying to present ourselves to don't think like that. And we won't fail like a normal, calibrated guy who just wasn't compatible, we'll fail like a socially retarded sperg outing ourselves as perpetual rejects who must be bullied more or disposed of. The people we want to approach will gladly look down upon you, laugh, defame you and tell you to get back in the back of the bus. Or maybe it's myself? Once, I wa…
/r/seduction23/08/21 07:21 AM
3

[accepts the date] seddit: YOU FAILED THE SHIT TEST YOU FUCKING [i-word] [rejects the date] seddit: YOU FAILED THE SHIT TEST YOU FUCKING [i-word]
/r/seduction24/06/21 04:01 AM
2

It's a woke bot, disregard
/r/seduction17/06/21 12:37 AM
2

the mantra says "Screw up with confidence"
/r/seduction12/06/21 12:13 AM
3

ok doomer
/r/seduction03/06/21 01:56 AM
5

Can't we just ban the doomers who just try to "prove wrong" anyone with a shred of optimism or good experiences just because they can't get it together? You're all crabs in a fucking bucket. I'm slowly balding and I don't care. Hell, I kinda admire a lot of bald guys. In 10 years more I might shave it all off and keep it trimmed. As long as it doesn't look like Milhouse's dad, it doesn't really matter.
/r/seduction02/06/21 11:20 PM
6

I live in a South American country, lol we aren't as financially flexible. Any more expensive and there'd be way too few customers!
/r/seduction31/05/21 07:33 AM
5

I saw her once a month average. Longest wait between visits was like 6 months. Shortest was a week. I was just patient and made the most of our meetups. Her price was approximately $50/hour, after currency conversion. The most I spent on a single meeting was 3 hours. Usually, the meetings were longer than agreed because we'd be catching up and talking about anything for a while before or after the action. Some days I would even walk her home from her "working place" (a simple comfy small house o…
/r/seduction31/05/21 07:24 AM
6

Befriend a hooker, you'd be like friends with business. It's what I did. Helped me in the long run because I got used to the touch of a woman, and to touching them. I mean, I had a shitty gf (college legbeard came onto me and I accepted outta desperation) in the interim I had stopped visiting them like a scared inexperienced boy, but I was so strait-laced the sex was almost nonexistent. I loosened up thanks to one hooker I met and visited many times after the gf broke up with me, and then I call…
/r/seduction31/05/21 05:35 AM
1

This is why I don't bother with IG. It's paranoia fuel.
/r/seduction28/05/21 08:29 PM
8

Covid panic is unattractive.
/r/seduction27/05/21 10:37 PM
1

Shut the fuck up doomer.
/r/seduction26/05/21 02:12 PM
1

The shit I take the most pride in is the fact that I learned to be like a normie despite being a literal asperger. Yeah, if you find me in a bad moment (uncomfortable, insecure, trying to make the first move) I'll gonna literally turn into the goddamn Good Doctor. But lately I've learned to be really honest, all this "vulnerability" mindset. Also to stop worrying about being liked and worry more about me liking who I meet.
/r/seduction24/05/21 06:27 PM
15

When everyone is trying to upstage each other for the "loudest dancing monkey" award, it's your duty to stand by the side and look down on them sipping tea saying "You have no dignity."
/r/seduction24/05/21 05:32 AM
12

OBVIOUSLY DUH drop the whole "literal extremes gotcha" schtick. It's self limiting, precisely what we're telling you to not be.
/r/seduction23/05/21 06:48 PM
3

People change partners all the fucking time in the real world. It's really not a big deal.
/r/seduction22/05/21 11:59 PM
4

People change partners all the fucking time. It's not that dramatic.
/r/seduction22/05/21 11:57 PM
13

That's not the point. Dumbasses (both pua edgelords and blackpill doomers) act like there's only two kind of men: gamer asperger i-words and Rich Famous Tall Alpha Slayers, no inbetweens, no man ever has lost his v-card without being the latter ever. I'm a broke balding short unfit depressed gamer asperger savant with unsolved teenage issues and I STILL have my fangirls, jealous male admirers and I can charm women because I can have fun and act like a fucking MAN. I'm not a "top scorer" either, …
/r/seduction22/05/21 01:44 AM
12

Begone, stupid doomer.
/r/seduction21/05/21 11:16 PM
3

S A T O R A R E P O T E N E T O P E R A R O T A S
/r/seduction20/05/21 07:18 PM
2

BOTTOM SEXT
/r/seduction20/05/21 05:16 AM
12

...and there are no friends at dusk.
/r/seduction19/05/21 09:53 PM
1

Go emasculate some simps elsewhere.
/r/seduction19/05/21 08:10 PM
45

TENƎ⊥
/r/seduction19/05/21 08:08 PM
3

They DO want a skinny guy... why do you think they shame attractive men for pursuing thin women?
/r/seduction18/05/21 01:34 AM
16

It really do be like that sometimes
/r/seduction17/05/21 04:37 PM
-1

That stinks of femcel.
/r/seduction16/05/21 01:09 AM
1

Don't have, not a priority to me. Too much of a financial hassle. Too unsafe to have one, they're carjacking everywhere where I live. I like the simple life, I like walking everywhere. Cheaper to pay for transport than for gas, permits, maintenance, etc. Will only get one if absolutely necessary, not interested in a show off car. It's supposed to be a tool. I will die on that hill.
/r/seduction14/05/21 08:06 PM
4

Jesus fucking christ. It's been 7 fuckin' years and he's still in the pop consciousness. The Rodge truly achieved immortality.
/r/seduction14/05/21 05:49 AM
3

The problem is that society has brainwashed us to think that being upfront is somehow WRONG.
/r/seduction13/05/21 07:03 PM
1

Says the r/breakups escapee.
/r/seduction13/05/21 04:10 AM
3

That's true. In the end it comes down to a simple question: "is it fun?" dating is supposed to be fun, not a fucking tug-of-war where daily life is draining as hell because you are always on edge and raking your brain for comebacks because you are dating an enemy who is trying to put you down. If you think the test was funny and you can respond having fun, that's fine. But if you feel it's crossing a line and you're not having fun, you have all the right to find that unattractive. I know we can'…
/r/seduction13/05/21 04:04 AM
17

"if i don't drag myself though unnecessary juvenile shit that I don't like, my pua overlords at seddit will call me an i-word!"
/r/seduction12/05/21 07:55 PM
47

If she brings drama into your life. Move on. iT wAs jUsT a sHiT tEsT bRuH
/r/seduction12/05/21 07:24 PM
1

Egg-shell-sior!
/r/seduction12/05/21 12:53 AM
3

"but everyone here knows there's only two kind of men, the i-words and the Alpha Chadbros Who Destroy And Dominate Everything and Fucks Different Hos Every Night and if you fail to take every single chance then you're the former forever. So it doesn't matter if that ho ditched you in the bar and went to make out with the guy next table, iT wAs jUsT a sHiT tEsT bRuH yOu hAvE tO tAkE iT sO sHe cOmEs bAcK otherwise you're not taking every chance!" Sarcasm, just in case.
/r/seduction12/05/21 12:51 AM
3

but you shoudnt' really need a book tbh nobody should need any help of any kind by that logic, why even have the sub? Why even have therapists? Hell, you're telling a fucking Aspergers to fend off by himself?
/r/seduction09/05/21 07:04 AM
1

Eh, I just want a simple normal life not impeded by my insecurities. Not really interested in the aLpHa dOg pUa eXpErIeNcE.
/r/seduction07/05/21 02:16 AM
1

LOL, I took it as a positive post at first, like "guy was just self sabotaging, he only was an i-word because of his own issues, self improvement works". Because you know all the doomers who flood the subreddit trying to "prove all the materials wrong because they're some kind of special unlovable snowflake" are pretty much delusional about their "unfixable unattractiveness of doom"
/r/seduction07/05/21 01:46 AM
2

When people say that "but being myself means being an awkward sperg around women" they don't understand that being an awkward sperg means they're not being themselves, they're self censoring ALL THE TIME. It's like they're trying to drive with the handbrake on. I am a sperg, and if I'm being confident and not self censoring myself, social calibration eventually becomes an instinct. I still need practice, I'm not yet truly in control of my confidence.
/r/seduction07/05/21 01:17 AM
1

gotta love how doomers are always the ones "most well versed" on attractiveness and what OTHERS should like
/r/seduction06/05/21 10:56 PM
1

I will mock simps not because they are, but why they are. Especially if they think they're somehow morally superior There's nothing wrong in being that kind of people but please at least be self aware of your defects, you're supposed to aspire to be normal When random soycuck #45678754 thinks he's So Progressive And Virtuous because he's self-humiliating in Current Year he deserves ridicule.
/r/seduction05/05/21 07:14 PM
0

I believe he means the club, there are enough strangers to be able to from one to the next in a matter of minutes
/r/seduction04/05/21 01:06 AM
0

In fact, it is literally the only way to meet somebody you did not have a previous connection to. Literally millions of people have met new friends, lovers, and spouses through cold approach. oh boy the FDS and ShitRedditSays sanctimonious imbeciles are gonna get SO triggered by this
/r/seduction03/05/21 05:54 PM
1

The problem is that the doomer mentality makes people (hell, even me at times) be in panic of the most embarrassing, humiliating public shameful blowout without any means or a chance to defend themselves and to be branded as "undateable", "pitiable" or just "get the fuck back to the back of the bus you i-word" and therefore moving on to the next is impossible because the next ones know this or can see this. When pessimism gets to that point, a missed opportunity is not seen as such, but as safet…
/r/seduction30/04/21 06:42 PM
1

It's the cult of plebbit. They can't spend one second without thinking about DAE LE BLUMPF?
/r/seduction29/04/21 04:46 PM
3

This is the worst comment feed ever. FDS escapees, blackpillers, and memelords replying "hurr durr rool 1 n 2 hehehe so ebin"
/r/seduction26/04/21 06:34 PM
7

EDIT: A lot of people here don't realize most of the guys here aren't interested in your "Only One Acceptable Goal" of being Super Master PUAs who score 10s every day. Most people just want to be normal and have enough personal freedom to be able to go for the ones they like when they show up and not be tied up by their insecurities and lack of experience. If they feel content with their baby steps or small achievements, LET THEM. PUAs and blackpillers say exactly the same thing, and the former …
/r/seduction26/04/21 12:38 AM
6

Well you seem to be someone who looks into the person instead of the credentials, but that's a minority. OP could die waiting to find someone like that IMO. Too bad most people just don't want to be the reject-saving hero. They want someone equal or higher than a normal guy, not lower, so someone who has a thing typically shamed like virginity becomes something like dating a cripple. There's no social proof on that. Would you have rejected him if you learned beforehand about his "little problem"…
/r/seduction25/04/21 08:41 AM
8

HAIL LOBSTER!
/r/seduction25/04/21 08:18 AM
3

Christ, how the hell was he able to keep his cool? I would have been paranoid as hell about being judged about the lack of experience (all 3 socially, romantically and sexually speaking) on the lead up, and the lead up to the lead up, and the lead up to the lead up to the lea-- you get it. I mean, even fuckin' Cosmo had an article about how "stunning and brave" the writer was for breaking up with a guy when she learnt he was a virgin ON THE BED READY TO DO THE ACT.
/r/seduction25/04/21 08:09 AM
8

Tell the truth
/r/seduction25/04/21 07:33 AM
5

That's one hell of a strawman from a sheltered perspective. I've never been with a hooker who doesn't take care of herself, works independently, demands protection (to the point THEY hoard condoms to work), fosters a mutual respect deal, filters undesirables, and works discreetly enough that anyone would say it's just two normal people getting together to have sex. Hell, I befriended one. Our relationship is like "friends with business." We share memes and shoot the shit over Whatsapp regularly,…
/r/seduction25/04/21 07:29 AM
0

And somehow, they REALLY have it out for men like OP. They're more concerned with shaming them even more than dealing with the clear and present danger of active sex offenders and wife beaters. It's kinda hard to be a guy with next to no sexual experience after a certain age when the popular media narrative is that they're fair game "alt rite yahtzee intel pumped up kickers" and must be ostracized even further and not allowed to adapt or hell, even have a job (ask Ellen Pao), and the only redemp…
/r/seduction25/04/21 07:12 AM
8

I did. I don't regret it. You want him to suffer more years while he tries to better himself and gamble his chances while horny and desperate as fuck and being haunted by a vicious circle of self doubt over something that is constantly shamed? Getting the sex out of the way helps compartmentalize his issues.
/r/seduction25/04/21 07:01 AM
9

You're awfully optimistic. Not to criticize you, quite the contrary. It's just that to myself, we live in a society of crabs in a bucket, and the outliers are in some way looking down upon the least experienced men. I did the hooker thing many times, at first just to calm the urge and then to train myself into being comfortable and not afraid of making missteps, I don't regret it, I was sick of being looked down upon as if I was handicapped or a social liability nobody wanted to take one for the…
/r/seduction25/04/21 06:58 AM
0

The latest Marvel Comics woke mob update has the Red Skull being such a villain by being a Peterson stand-in. Literally "Hail Lobster"
/r/seduction25/04/21 06:38 AM
2

you're gonna want her for yourself?
/r/seduction21/04/21 07:03 PM
-1

Dodged a potential #poundmetoo.
/r/seduction19/04/21 08:50 PM
12

ok karen
/r/seduction18/04/21 04:15 AM
5

I guess that having more experiences would desensitize you from that. Don't listen to the stock internet tough guys shaming you for having thoughts or telling you to "stop thinking" like you have something to prove. Just don't dwell on these thoughts, let them be, eventually you'll forget, but you'll never stop having them, you just learn to let them run their course. Take it from me, I'm one hell of a softie and I keep getting infatuated on and off. But I know it's a fleeting feeling.
/r/seduction18/04/21 04:11 AM
2

Jesus Fucking Christ the taboo against meds is such bullshit.
/r/seduction12/04/21 07:52 AM
1

I choose to not believe blackpillers, but if they're not making it obvious you start to fall for the bait.
/r/seduction11/04/21 05:32 AM
1

There's also the "cynical pua" posts who keep telling everyone to be hedonistic sex fiends and be too selfish or nothing because there's no such thing as healthy social relationships. These also tend to pester others for asking "certain questions that a true chad wouldn't ask" instead of responding And the inbetweeners who reply to the blackpill doomers or the pua salesmen with "yooooo sum wizdom muh man diz be teh best post! ^(do I sound like one of the cool guys now?) "
/r/seduction11/04/21 02:29 AM
1

If you are too old for most locations, how are you supposed to do it then? That's why I call it a catch-22.
/r/seduction09/04/21 07:10 AM
1

God, I hope so. I just assume they aren't as dorky as I can get. But let's be optimistic for a change, maybe I'm just overestimating the Jekyll/Hyde thing that happens to me and I'm not that dorky! I even feel dorky when I'm being extroverted and girls are around, so I act aloof and disinterested just to not start playing the part of the cliché sucker trying to score in public. I end up stretching my neck in a smug way all the time. It's just that I have paranoid PTSD-lite delusions of "oh he's …
/r/seduction09/04/21 05:38 AM
3

LOL no one is telling you to throw yourself at him. Just don't play mind games or send mixed signals. Carry that "fuck yeah" spirit. Yes is yes.
/r/seduction09/04/21 12:22 AM
3

I have a theory that some things outside our control make stuff harder for us. See, when things have gone right for me, I never make the first move. I just do my thing being just happy until someone gets close, and at that point I feel confident. But if I make the first move, I get as shy and awkward as a teenage autistic kid can be. I'd practice more in the field, but I don't wanna show that part of myself because I think it's literally pussy repellent and a bullying, pity or cockblocking magne…
/r/seduction08/04/21 05:41 AM
4

I agree. My position is similar, I'm just a regular dude, and very confident if approached first, but if I have to make the first move I literally turn into the same autistic sperg I was before I adapted to society, or turn into a dancing monkey, anyways I feel exposed as the bullied sperg I used to be and I get really paranoid about it. So it's not just a rejection, it feels like contempt, pity and disqualification in the eyes of anyone else, or cockblock material, so it's hard to even start ge…
/r/seduction07/04/21 09:12 PM
1

Well, I guess I can deal with that. I'll keep that in mind. In retrospect, the last time I was on a disaster party, I think I handled it well compared to another guy who ended up destroyed in a corner listening on his headphones. I was even joking about my rejections with another girl trying to tell the guy to lighten up. Most of the time I'm guy who's fun and I regularly get checked out, dress well, act like a leader when I'm happy, etc. but unless you hung out with me for 2 weeks you wouldn't …
/r/seduction07/04/21 06:12 PM
-3

This is what I mean when I say that after a certain point the world won't let you improve nor forgive a lack of experience. Nobody wants to be the hero. Total Catch-22.
/r/seduction07/04/21 05:55 PM
5

I've always thought that being rejected in public would mean that everyone would shun you and low key think you should "get back in the back of the bus" and other women wouldn't dare giving a chance to you.
/r/seduction06/04/21 06:30 PM
3

Can't someone just ban all the leddit fedora humor bots?
/r/seduction05/04/21 10:15 AM
2

We live in a society
/r/seduction05/04/21 03:40 AM
1

Ah, great. There should be much more of it.
/r/seduction04/04/21 10:01 PM
0

Trying to "gotcha" me? Sad. Again, you've ever watched these “artsy" vids? Looks like you haven't.
/r/seduction04/04/21 08:37 PM
1

I can see you don't watch porn given that you saw one "facial abuse" vid and think it's all like that shit. Have you seen the "erotic art porn" stuff? It borders on "aww".
/r/seduction04/04/21 07:55 AM
1

maybe when the restrictions ease up as if
/r/seduction04/04/21 07:38 AM
2

Shave it down! Got facial hair? A slight beard works well with a bald head.
/r/seduction02/04/21 01:45 AM
2

If you can find a non alcoholic stimulant then hell yeah. I'll stick to booze myself, I've been learning some cocktails (not enough for bartending, but I should) so I've developed a good tolerance while looking classy because I tend to have no more than two really good strong drinks while the rest of the plebs have kegs of piss beer and end up wasted while I stare from a distance, raise my old fashioned glass and say "you have no dignity" 🤣🤣🤣 And to think I used to be the lightweight misfit who …
/r/seduction01/04/21 06:23 AM
1

In before some stupid poser sucking up to the pua salesmen tells you "that was a shit test!“
/r/seduction30/03/21 04:30 PM
2

nuances and rhetoric man, nuances and rhetoric I consider "learning to ignore or shutdown my autistic overthinking and let my instincts do whatever" an example of returning to monke I'll never be shredded, just thin or fit, I'm anxious and neurotic very often, I'll never be rich, I will always be haunted by my teenage inferiority complexes, I just wanna be normal and live a simple life... and I think I'll be fine. The true me that comes out when I become monke does whatever the fuck I want to be…
/r/seduction30/03/21 05:36 AM
3

Not forbidden, but enough of a loaded buzzword and favorite "gotcha" word of a certain kind of pathetic internet denizen that I'm not even using it EVER.
/r/seduction30/03/21 03:43 AM
2

reject humanity return to monke
/r/seduction29/03/21 08:36 PM
11

oh god Johnny Bravo yes! "what, you got annoyed at her punching you in the balls? that was a shit test and you failed you fucking i-word enjoy the thought of chads fucking her tonite"
/r/seduction29/03/21 08:19 PM
1

I expected an "ok doomer" post but this is reasonable, though I must add: if it doesn't work, abort. Learn to pick up the "toxic" traits for your own good and leave, because these people who aren't willing to stop living with a chip on their shoulder no matter how much selflessness you give to them, just don't deserve your effort.
/r/seduction29/03/21 07:45 AM
11

It's just a blackpiller with a chip on his shoulder trying to "gotcha" you, disregard
/r/seduction29/03/21 07:41 AM
4

It doesn't help that you are "expected" to have a popular IG profile to be positively judged.
/r/seduction28/03/21 06:39 PM
2

We unironically live in a society
/r/seduction28/03/21 01:37 AM
1

WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY BOTTOM TEXT
/r/seduction26/03/21 05:39 PM
1

Really? The first PUA shitbooks I read were full into this shit. And it was by old school gurus 15 years ago... Never again. Twisted my mind at the worst time possible.
/r/seduction26/03/21 02:46 PM
71

ok gloomer
/r/seduction26/03/21 06:01 AM
1

Yeah, that's what I want to do. It's just this paranoid feeling that I might blow it in a way that makes the girl realize I'm still the inexperienced social outcast from 10 years ago on the inside and socially shame me because "fucking dork should know his place and die alone". Feels like although it's not late to improve, it's too late for the world to let me improve. I mean, I'm over 30 and I have no experience making the first move, I'm awkward as fuck when trying to be forward. I've just coa…
/r/seduction25/03/21 06:16 AM
3

yeah.
/r/seduction25/03/21 01:34 AM
1

The pua people are the butthurt salesmen whining that "we don't deserve them" in the bottom of every comment page, or try to gotcha the OP's "whatever happened, I'm content with the result, live and learn" post by telling them they're doomed i-word pussies because they didn't conform to their product standards in any way they deem, and the blackpillers who suck up to them reply to these posts with "yeaaah you sure showed him! rool 1 and 2 mirite?" trying to act like a "chadbro" on the internet b…
/r/seduction24/03/21 06:44 PM
11

As long as you keep honestly trying and learning from your mistakes, then you have no other option but to improve. Feels like everyone is extra ruthless to anyone who wants to improve and the media has made it socially acceptable. Fucking cowards, they only do that because they think they can pick on a perceived defect. "Get back in the back of the bus you fucking i-word", is what I'm afraid of getting.
/r/seduction24/03/21 06:38 PM
1

I tend to do the opposite, I profile the better looking ones as "eh, she's gotta be vain and shallow and will see through the current me, see the guy I used to be when I was a kid and will shame me if I make a faux pas, I guess I won't compare to the average dudebro she has to deal with" So I feel comfortable dating the more unassuming ones. Not by choice!
/r/seduction24/03/21 03:34 PM
1

pick up artists, basically I mean either the truly skilled enough in seduction, the "top seduction coaches" that come out like salesmen, and also the wannabes who think acting macho and trying to "gotcha" every poster here makes them more "alpha"
/r/seduction19/03/21 05:54 PM
1

It doesn't help that all the "pua overlords" around here and the blackpillers masquerading as "uber post-puas" would shit on you for making small inner game steps.
/r/seduction19/03/21 05:48 PM
2

Whatsapp is my main driver, I keep a barely active FB for communication, having a profile pic so that people can identify me, and taking part in some discussion groups, and I have an abandoned IG I forgot the pw for. I HATE IG and feel no drive at all to use it, it's the most vain of social networks, where having it means you HAVE to post stuff to pretend you are a "character" otherwise you might as well not even exist beyond being a commenting orbiter in others' profiles. And I don't give a shi…
/r/seduction16/03/21 04:46 AM
2

Blackpillers with no outside experience have too much time on their hands so they flood places like this subreddit with their warped doomer perspectives.
/r/seduction14/03/21 01:36 AM
1

ok doomer
/r/seduction06/03/21 05:13 AM
-1

Live and learn!
/r/seduction06/03/21 05:05 AM
1

I would say neediness and seeking validation are inauthentic by definition. These people haven't found themselves at all. They are measuring themselves against manufactured expectations and their own self-guilt or self-shame because deep down they are censoring themselves or feel censored by underlying issues.
/r/seduction05/03/21 06:45 PM
1

Finasteride potentially kills the sex drive, though. That would defeat the purpose.
/r/seduction05/03/21 06:35 PM
2

Such banter should work when there's enough rapport and trust. Outside of that just a bit is acceptable, not the eternal "power tug-o-war of mutual bullying" the salesmen love to pitch. It IS possible for a woman to make a poorly calibrated shit test because they're human, but you know the salesmen (and the blackpillers who wanna appear tough) always put it like they're goddesses you must impress by "playing the bigger bully" and that you have no right to not like it. "What, you didn't like her …
/r/seduction05/03/21 12:14 AM
1

I'm surprised there's only ONE reply down there with the eternal "blah blah how dare you feel good for failing, you're an [i-word] and I gotcha, I'm better than you"
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:53 PM
1

In before the armchair uberpuas come to tell you you're an [i-word] and some other gotchas for going against the Holy Word of the Eternal Tug-O-War of Testing and that My Style Is Better Than Yours between some other stuff.
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:42 PM
1

That kills your sex drive, defeating the purpose of it. I'd rather just shave it all off and rock the shiny dome.
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:33 PM
1

Been a while since I read some of the ol' "YOU ARE ALWAYS AT TUG-O-WAR" stuff.
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:30 PM
0

What's with the brigading from FDS lately?
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:28 PM
1

I think it's fake as hell to be forced to text like in a Joss Whedon film with a stranger when that is definitely not me, just to have a window of opportunity to loosen up. It's like I'm introverted online only...
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:22 PM
1

bad bot
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:04 PM
1

What's with Reddit and their "fedora humor" bots on the loose?
/r/seduction04/03/21 11:03 PM
1

Rent Free
/r/seduction04/03/21 02:46 AM
3

It's important for people to recognize these observations. Regular "pua overlord advice" makes guys think any setback is a failure to be ashamed of instead of a baby step.
/r/seduction04/03/21 01:01 AM
0

Never be ashamed for having less experience in the social department. And don't listen to the r/FDS users on the loose posting here. They want us to be ashamed of that, of wanting to advance, and to submit like a little depressed SIMP.
/r/seduction04/03/21 12:59 AM
-1

Feminism has it out for the inexperienced dudes because they are COWARDS who want an excuse to bully someone they see as inferior and means no harm instead of banding together against dangerous men. They don't want these inexperienced dudes to advance, they'd lose their punching bags and potential SIMPs.
/r/seduction04/03/21 12:54 AM
1

But he's doing this for his own fun, not to impress whatever pua tenets he is "supposed" to follow. If he was uncomfortable he has all the right to not like her counter approach and move on.
/r/seduction26/02/21 09:49 PM
1

Nah, I don't see it like he missed the chance. He was walking away already and doesn't seem to find such tests attractive.
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:10 PM
1

But he didn't want her after that test.
/r/seduction26/02/21 04:31 PM
1

I've turned down a few attractive women who were throwing it at me because I didn't enjoy being around them and that was a turnoff That's the ONLY thing that matters. People give OP shit for not going along as if his own preference is second to what the pua overlords say you have to want, but the crux of the matter is that he felt the test was unattractive.
/r/seduction26/02/21 04:28 PM
1

Yeah, but you still liked them after the test. OP didn't, and that's all it matters. I see it like this, she essentially approached him with a neg, and he rejected her approach. He is in no obligation to reciprocate just because she wanted something.
/r/seduction26/02/21 03:20 PM
1

I think OP did fine. Had he not said anything further, the woman would have probably looked down upon him like "serves u right you I-word, run away i hope u die alone"
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:30 AM
1

Well, most people saying this sound like he should have stayed and take the attacks on his masculinity as a "compliment" because that's what a pua should do, regardless of his preferences on how a woman acts.
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:24 AM
0

So you're supposed to accept a crap response and keep taking it just because it was a sign of attraction on her part. Nah, if you don't like her, you don't like her. Going against what YOU want in the moment ends up feeling simpish just to rake in "pua brownie points"
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:22 AM
1

So he should have gone with it despite not liking her response just because it was a potential win? Whatever happened to personal agency?
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:18 AM
1

But he didn't like her response. That's what matters.
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:16 AM
1

So just because it was a shit test and she was attracted, he had to go along with it no matter how unpleasant they are? If he doesn't want someone who does that kind of test, then he has all the right to GTFO. Let's put it this way: this was HER "neg" approach and she failed in OP's eyes. Having to put up with everything just to "score pua brownie points" takes away our agency.
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:12 AM
1

So just because it was a shit test he had to go along with it no matter how unpleasant they are? You armchair puas seem to forget the most important thing is whatever do YOU want, not what your stock "only 2 kinds of men exist, puas and chumps" books say. If he doesn't want someone who does that kind of test, then he has all the right to GTFO.
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:12 AM
1

It doesn't matter if the girl was into it and shit testing him, who wants someone like that?
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:08 AM
1

I don't think he's masochistic.
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:08 AM
1

this is the most fedora bot ever
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:02 AM
1

Current cancel culture is encouraging women to be like that. As if men, especially the ones starting out (and therefore more harmless and an easier target) must be bullied and shamed.
/r/seduction26/02/21 07:00 AM
1

An onlysimps thot, to be fair.
/r/seduction26/02/21 06:58 AM
9

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Troxler+effect+
/r/seduction23/02/21 06:42 PM
-1

is this a cheap attempt at a gotcha? honestly I've always had bad experiences. Either they're too passive they're a hindrance, or are a backstabbing POS trying to discourage me from being extroverted more often, put me down to raise themselves up, or leave me alone when in times of need. I've been too trusting in the past, and I guess I haven't been as picky as I should have been.
/r/seduction20/02/21 03:59 AM
1

True. I've stopped watching news since 2 months ago and it already feels LIBERATING.
/r/seduction20/02/21 03:23 AM
1

So because cancel culture isn't in law books, it doesn't exist? Today the "court of public opinion" doesn't give a shit about laws. Got hit by a woman? "he must have had done something". Women taking advantage of boys, then flipping it around to make it seem the teen was the bad guy, and the judge following through because some other statute citing mental distress? Happened. Women accusing a friend of rape just because he liked her, just to win points with their "activist" sisterhood, and nobody…
/r/seduction20/02/21 03:11 AM
3

Well, the world is full of people who have nothing going on yet they have love lives. You people always end up falling back into the whole "only 2 kinds of men exist, mega puas and mega dorks" worldview
/r/seduction20/02/21 03:01 AM
1

We didn't make the rules, it's women who started faking being busy to reply hours later or looking down upon someone who made a double text. We have to adapt to these fucking mindgames not by choice.
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:59 AM
1

you can't get taken to court for making a sexually suggestive joke to a date, but she can be taken to court for assault if she slaps you. that's where you're wrong kiddo, we are in 2021 sadly. A former friend tried to publicly shame and blame me for daring to approach another girl who was taken (and I didn't know and she never told me) despite the fact that I respected her rejection. When the challenge comes at you, face up, state your piece, and then go prove it by scoring 37 points and winning…
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:49 AM
1

Couldn't you just "communicate" with the girl instead of trying to prove yourself? If she's down with you, in theory she should adapt to you. If not, she's not worth it.
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:42 AM
1

Might as well own it for the moment? Be honest and tell them after introducing yourself "well, I wanted to talk but I'm outta words" or some variation to break the ice, always with a smile like you are amused at yourself and approached her just because you felt like it. Don't act like you have to prove yourself to her or anyone. "Screw up with confidence", as they say, that way you won't look like a reject asking to be shamed for trying to change, you are just another guy. Whatever you say it's …
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:30 AM
5

If they are not helping you then tell them to fuck off. They sound like they want to lower you self esteem and see you fail.
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:15 AM
1

It's hard to stop seeing them as potential r/FDS members looking for an excuse to bully you because you didn't compare to their 345678654323456 previous hookups. My instincts tell me they're the enemy unless they make the first move... which happens once in a blue moon
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:09 AM
1

God I hate texting. In real life we're encouraged to just wing it because we will never have that "perfect one liner" and it all comes down to how your present yourself, yet we're told to think the opposite when dealing with online shit. Don't have the perfect witty opener for each match? Don't even try.
/r/seduction20/02/21 02:06 AM
4

Now, sometime I have thoughts about buying sex which I have managed to control as I wanted to keep it natural and organic and don't want to do something I regret later in the life. you speak like it's traumatic... it's just sex, a crash course without the pressure of risking rejection, and you're not gonna be judged for having no experience at age 33 since at least you'll have some. Many sex workers are used to having to bring some men outta their shells. it comes down to whether you are horny o…
/r/seduction20/02/21 01:57 AM
-3

I don't trust other men.
/r/seduction20/02/21 01:52 AM
2

you mean the ones looking to settle down with someone they look down upon? good riddance then
/r/seduction16/02/21 02:05 AM
3

this, this is almost exactly the example that identifies me and I should apply! I have to get over my fears of being publicly shamed for even trying and might make me lash out in self defense. But I'm paralyzed at the thought of putting myself out there, especially in these antisocial times where there's no more blending in to avoid making the first move.
/r/seduction16/02/21 01:52 AM
1

a blowout disqualifying you in the eyes of the onlookers and then being profiled as still being a failure at such an age and whatever related stigma? It's like getting thrown to the back of the bus at the first day of school forever, only that it's not school, but adult life. I know some are able to approach one after another in the same place or event, or between people relatively close, but Christ, if you're clueless enough, how? Can't progress if people won't even give you a chance to fail an…
/r/seduction16/02/21 12:55 AM
2

Most likely the downvotes are from silent blackpill doomers (I refuse to utter the i-word) who think they own the truth.
/r/seduction15/02/21 11:26 PM
1

Guess you are right. It's who I am, I'll own it.
/r/seduction15/02/21 01:56 PM
0

I'm tired of social media (I'm a person, not a fucking character), hate IG with a passion and abandoned it, keep only a barely active FB with a nice profile picture for people to find me, and recently purged my social circle due to toxic political bullshit so I have no close friends to parade around or take pictures with for internet posturing. I have nothing except the way people see me interact with others in real life, where I'm confident, extroverted and happy as long as I don't have to make…
/r/seduction15/02/21 02:38 AM
1

Whenever I consciously try to put myself out there instead of forgetting about it, acting like a normal happy dude and letting chance throw me a bone once in a blue moon, I turn into the most pitiful, shy, clueless and awkward guy. I feel like my masculinity disappears and ashamed of even trying. Yeah, there's no perfect strategy but there is a worst one deserving of total scorn and ostracism and the mark of the "doomed beta laughingstock" especially when they're comparing you to the previous 58…
/r/seduction14/02/21 11:10 PM
1

Normally when I'm happy or relaxed I'm the leader type, and all is well. But when something starts stressing me, typically an asshole jealous of my positive energy going all belligerent or toxic, or the possibility of a rejection, I revert to asshole mode as a defense mechanism lest everyone, especially women, realize that deep inside me the doormat virgin nerd deserving of ridicule and bullying, and that must not be allowed to progress still lurks as a ghost. I don't want to disappoint the peop…
/r/seduction14/02/21 02:55 AM
1

Failing does not make you a failure. You are going to fail whenever you start something new. The goal is to learn from each interaction. Most people would rather look good in mediocrity than look stupid on the road to success. What would be your take on the idea of thinking you're too old to be a failure at something normies should have had down in teen years? Everyone thinks I'm a total alpha (and I act like it when it doesn't involve a woman I'm attracted to) but when push comes to shove the s…
/r/seduction13/02/21 06:51 AM
3

Now, I would absolutely contend that as women approach 30 they begin to give up on the fantasy of locking down this kind of guy, and realize that the Disney movies and Romcoms lied to them. This isn't because their self-esteem grew, it's because they've run their face into the brick wall of throwing themselves at guys and being used/discarded enough times to have finally gotten sick of breaking their noses repeatedly. And then they settle for someone they'll be always looking down upon.
/r/seduction12/02/21 08:17 AM
1

How to deal with feeling like each rejection equals a hundred since I feel like I would be ruled out by the entire social circles witnessing it? I think I'm more afraid of escalating. When I've had success is when the girl has escalated first, making me feel like I am "allowed" to proceed and not gonna be judged badly. You see, my deepest insecurities stem from being a total maladjusted autistic sperg. I'm like this Jekyll/Hyde guy, either completely socially awkward or the opposite, the life of…
/r/seduction04/02/21 01:48 PM
1

Jesus Christ I can't wrap my head around trial and error, you'd be building a terrible social resume by the people who saw you fail. They say there's so much people in the world but each failure also disqualifies yourself to the entire immediate social circles of the people present, and you'll run into them again unless you're going out to radically different places every time. I just prefer to ride the wave and let people approach me and I take what I like. But in these "new normal" times I can…
/r/seduction24/01/21 11:00 PM
1

I've considered it precisely to start networking and rebuilding my social circle. I already do volunteering on my country's official electoral procedures. It's kinda tiring, but it's really comfortable to me because it's politically neutral BY LAW and under risk of heavy fines, and I'm VERY professional at it so I take a leadership role (while everyone else does it because they were just recruited by lottery) and make sure everything is transparent as HELL. So I guess I'm ready for more stuff li…
/r/seduction03/01/21 06:10 AM
5

can't move, just outta college, looking for jobs and I just can't leave because, hell no, I belong here, it's my home, my house, my family, it's a large city anyways so it's not limiting me. I'd love to use online stuff as a crutch but I just can't be myself there and FB is a cesspool of political fanatism in my country. try to find out what people in the area are doing to cope with the pandemic I guess that's my best bet, but people aren't admitting to doing anything. The covid hysteria is "fas…
/r/seduction03/01/21 01:50 AM
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even during a pandemic there are millions of different ways to meet and talk to new people I'm outta ideas. Everyone's in panic or closed off. Had to purge my social circle due to political fanatism, no idea how to start anew. I mean, I'm good looking and I'm sure I'd do fine online if I tried for real, but I'm clueless at "le online gaem" and having to rapid-fire Joss Whedon quips from the very first message without sounding like a tryhard autist paranoid that his message is gonna be interprete…
/r/seduction03/01/21 01:20 AM
5

High quality food is cheaper, you just have to take your time actually preparing it. Hit your nearest farmer's market and leave no salad alive. Hit your local butchery and get any meat it, it doesn't have to be the best cut, it needs to have proteins and fats. The money saved and the pride you'll take on eating something made by yourself is uplifting as hell! You're gonna feel like inviting people to your place.
/r/seduction02/01/21 03:06 AM
1

I do not do shit online because you are "supposed" to "talk right" with some "legendary witty one liner" on the first message otherwise you're "doomed". Inevitably, this pandemic shmandemic pandemonium has been boring since I've barely met one chick in person this year. Fuck it, if I need to brainstorm endless rapid fire Joss Whedon-level forced quips to keep the online talk going let alone get a reply (something I never have needed to do in person, or if I do it's because in person it can come …
/r/seduction30/12/20 11:29 PM
3

You are deliberately choosing the scarcity mindset and that's gonna make you needy at a subconscious level. I'm not telling you to focus on more than one person, just to keep the door open to meeting more women in the back of your mind, never stop being approachable or a tiny bit flirty with others even if you don't plan to do anything else, it keeps you grounded and more resilient, and if you're insecure it helps practice with low stakes while you're not around the woman that is high stakes for…
/r/seduction26/12/20 08:54 PM
2

LOL, perks of being tall, use 'em tiger
/r/seduction26/12/20 08:43 PM
1

I take slight issue at the dog. Don't do it to "have companionship", you'll look down on the pup as some kind of non sentient poor man's replacement. Get a pet because you love them, it has to come from the heart. They are living beings too.
/r/seduction26/12/20 08:41 PM
1

Why would you settle for whatever comes first You're supposed to be a chooser dammit
/r/seduction26/12/20 08:33 PM
1

The former by a long mile, because it leads you to go with the flow no matter what happens, and it drives you to be concerned with what do you want right now. The latter is self destructive because it inevitably leads to self questioning, you know the endless "what i'm supposed to say or do", fake posturing, acts that can be seen through, etc. It's one of the things that the whole "just b urself bro" actually mean
/r/seduction26/12/20 08:25 PM
1

The virtue is to be ambivalent about it, and you clearly aren't if you are still on the "fight memes with other memes" game even if you pretend you aren't. You aren't above it yet no matter how much you posture to me, you are at the same level, different side.
/r/seduction26/12/20 08:10 PM
1

The more you call others virgins, it's not gonna make you not be one. Self hate, trying to be one of the "cool kids" is unhealthy. Accept your faults instead of clinging to some empty clique thinking. Being an internet tough guy is the opposite of confident vulnerability. Maybe, maybe your first time will be with a woman you're actually attracted to.
/r/seduction26/12/20 05:42 PM
1

Turn off the TV.
/r/seduction26/12/20 06:42 AM
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I bet you're one of these who call everyone not of your political allegiance "incel" Meme words are just words. Grow up.
/r/seduction26/12/20 06:41 AM
1

Why date your own age? That's just politically correct propaganda made to bring us down. "blah blah men who date younger are [insert whatever cancel culture smear buzzword]"
/r/seduction26/12/20 06:20 AM
1

once i switched from ‘does she like me’ to ‘do I like her’ that’s when I trapped started to see progress. The moment I realized this, no books involved, was enlightening. But I forgot the moment I realized it, I can only remember having realized it.
/r/seduction26/12/20 06:18 AM
4

To summarize all these realizations we have been having: Don't waste brain power on trying to be liked, use it on figuring out whether you like her or not beyond the initial approach. Sometimes when the vibe is not good we think it's our fault for not trying hard enough, so we try harder and end up making a fool of ourselves for no reason at all, when the reality was that we didn't really like the girl. It's okay to take a step back, girls do it all the time with us. which leads me to: stop thin…
/r/seduction29/11/20 02:21 AM
1

Yeah, but I kinda have survivor's guilt over this. I used to be a blackpiller.
/r/seduction11/09/20 07:29 AM
2

It gets worse, if you tell them to go pay for sex so that they calm the urge, get some clarity of mind and also learn how to not get scared next to a woman, they get offended and either pull the morality card or the male guilt card and start sounding just like the feminists that bully them, or argue that "it doesn't count" as if they were gamers about to be discovered that they cheated to get a goddamn achievement. We truly live in a society.
/r/seduction10/09/20 03:19 AM
4

Pessimistic fatalism in general. It's a certain type of [i-word] who are more concerned with winning the argument that they're hopeless and proving you wrong. And they are definitely not willing to switch gears out of some stupid sense of misplaced pride.
/r/seduction09/09/20 11:10 PM
6

The amount of blackpilling in the replies is unbearable.
/r/seduction09/09/20 08:50 PM
3

In short: don't fall for thots looking for simps.
/r/seduction07/09/20 07:51 AM
2

So many butthurt blackpillers, literally crabs in a bucket. You go OP. About the advice from girls, there's one kind of "advice" that could be useful, and that is a honest confession of what did they feel and why did they like or dislike a certain approach by a guy, in a strictly case by case basis because human response is never consistent. Something like a reverse field report.
/r/seduction04/09/20 10:30 PM
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Is it though? In theory it sounds plausible, in practice it might be emotionally compromising - what guarantees do you have that after all the "crazy fun", she doesn't look down upon you and sees you as a safe, non threatening financial safety blanket to comfortably grow old and squeeze some children out of it or feed whatever living product from the past while you're strung along, unloved? I mean, by the time you figure out whether or not she's honestly invested in you, you would have invested …
/r/seduction03/09/20 05:46 AM
2

In short, it's better to worry about whether you like the girl instead of wasting brainpower on whether she likes you.
/r/seduction31/08/20 02:35 AM
2

Eh, I'm not bothered! As I've said, I have no issue with ya, just find me inspired and I'll hit you up, like now. I might sound cliche here but you need some good zen-like disconnection from your troubles, to even begin by fixing your cold facial expression. It's all coming down to the same problem we all have: we give a shit too much. I guess only that way, learning to live for a bit with a "fuck it, fuck everyone" outlook, just for yourself, you could start cultivating a good social vibe. You'…
/r/seduction30/08/20 08:23 AM
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Well, it's a multilayered thing. I'm talking more about being true to oneself enough to know when to fold. If I talk about lowering standards I'm talking about physical stuff but UNDER A CERTAIN RANGE - not so much you start forcing yourself to approach or keep talking to someone you outright dislike for whatever reason it might be, because what's the fun in that? It means giving some time to people you neither like or dislike at first glance because you might find something good in there. But t…
/r/seduction29/08/20 07:09 AM
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On a related note, if you're not feeling it with a woman you're approaching, just leave. You're not being true to yourself by pushing forward despite being disappointed and it only leads to more potential awkwardness, I don't care if the internet tough guy babble from PUA materials tells you to keep insisting because otherwise you are an [insert buzzword of your choice]
/r/seduction28/08/20 10:00 PM
3

I like these posts we've been getting deconstructing common blackpill talking points.
/r/seduction19/08/20 06:11 AM
2

“One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.” - Master Oogway Hell, remember Oedipus? Run away from your family, they said... It will be fun, they said
/r/seduction17/08/20 09:53 PM
1

Meditation is an underrated tool for managing social anxiety. In my apartment building I'm the financial bookkeeper in charge of managing the expenses to keep our building clean. That means every now and then I have to go knock on every door to tell neighbors to pay up. Well, yesterday it was that time, and I was fuckin' nervous with my heart spazzing out as I stood in front of one of the doors (I hadn't gone in a while since someone paid me a big debt that covered two months of expenses, but I …
/r/seduction15/08/20 06:06 AM
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When you're not into a woman, do you think less of her or just think she's not your preference? (implying she might be someone else's preference) Flip it around. Someone not being into you doesn't mean she thinks you are worthless, just that you're not her preference.
/r/seduction14/08/20 08:52 AM
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Seems more the sort of thing they’d conjure up in some shitty PUA book. Indeed, this is the kind of crap I used to read 15 years ago (and that some "oldschoolers" still say it's the only way) that would turn me into a blackpiller saying "we live in a society". No wonder some end up thinking women are some kind of chaotic-evil harpies who are looking for a chance to tear men down whenever some AMOG with a slightly faster speech shows up and that one must live in a constant war as if The Random AM…
/r/seduction14/08/20 12:52 AM
2

People getting angry at OP STOP. TAKING. EVERYTHING. LITERALLY. He is talking about a mindset of personal satisfaction. Whatever psychological condition you start blaming for that, STOP. You're not handicapped, you just have it a little harder, but you can sure learn. I did it, you can. OUTSIDE.
/r/seduction12/08/20 10:22 PM
1

Just another blackpiller, disregard
/r/seduction12/08/20 02:05 AM
1

Lel. It's a reference to some anime.
/r/seduction11/08/20 08:08 PM
2

When you're fucked in the head, going only for seduction skills might be a disaster where when you do the wrong thing, instead of learning from your mistakes: you think you did nothing wrong BUT you only realized the wrong thing, noticed the wrong things, reached the wrong conclusions, and reacted the wrong way. It's a black pill factory. For these cases, therapy is necessary BEFORE trying to face any fear. And I'm speaking from personal experience. I went from naïve-but-eager shy socially awkwa…
/r/seduction11/08/20 03:09 AM
1

I have no reason to lie. Telling people this helps me because I have a bad memory and I tend to forget the good-- scratch that, EXCELLENT experiences I've had these times, and dwell on the bad ones. And people around me who have witnessed me at both my best and my worst, remember more my best. I mean, I'm autistic and I just wanna be normal, and the best thing I can do is to take control of myself and become able to be Hyde when I want, not when the RNG gods decide.
/r/seduction10/08/20 07:15 AM
1

I'm literally 5'6" without shoes and I have some Jekyll/Hyde dichotomy in my life. In Jekyll Mode I'm just the okay, weird but cool guy that's just there and is mostly aloof or asexual around women except for these times once a year where he's awkward and paranoid with girls. When Hyde Mode is unlocked once in a blue moon under random circumstances completely out of my control, I can tame CROWDS and have chicks throw themselves at me. Even way taller guys defer to me when that happens. Our heigh…
/r/seduction10/08/20 06:29 AM
1

Jeez, and online gaming is worse because these losses are permanently counted in your profile.
/r/seduction10/08/20 06:23 AM
1

Then lie you fucking blackpiller
/r/seduction08/08/20 09:12 AM
0

Except that we human beings never do what we say we do.
/r/seduction08/08/20 09:10 AM
1

I guess he feels judged...
/r/seduction07/08/20 02:51 AM
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No one is gonna judge you, we aren't feminists. Suggestion, after a while go back to the same one, since she knows you already she'll try to make you feel more comfortable considering what happened the first time. Also, don't be a moralist pussy around her and let your instincts kick in. You're paying, you have full permission to touch her and enjoy the act. You don't have to "perform well", that's on HER. It's okay to be inexperienced, but don't let that stop you from treating her like a woman.
/r/seduction07/08/20 02:49 AM
2

Don't be a prude. Delusions of morality hold you back. You want sex? Go for it. And it'll take a weight off your shoulders. Your first time doesn't matter, think of it as just "advanced porn". If anything, value more the first time with someone as a couple rather than some archaic glorification of something that's human nature. Sex is also a skill and it's not shameful to train for it. Me, I paid to lose the v-card that at age 20. Porn literally didn't cut it anymore and I was fapping up to 4 ti…
/r/seduction06/08/20 08:10 PM
0

I think the alternative to be dominant is to be a team, both male and female in the same level. Being submissive never ends up well (unless it's decided to be roleplay I guess) because the woman will inevitably look down upon you.
/r/seduction06/08/20 07:34 AM
2

The black pill is just fatalism all around. To think that there's no solution and letting that define your mindset. A doomer, you'd say. Maybe I should start telling them "ok doomer" (an example: I'm sometimes a strictly political blackpiller because I overestimate the BS media narratives, and feel like I'm outnumbered and society is doomed and nothing I do can stop the coming doom, it doesn't help I recently stepped away from my social circle due to politics...) Although in real life, I've seen…
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:49 AM
1

"Standards" are mostly a conscious, arbitrary thing. People like us are always on our heads micromanaging everything that passes through our braincells and we cling to these rules and respect the arbitrary statements of the rest. The key is to let the instincts grab the steering wheel and tell the brain to shut the fuck up and enjoy the ride because as much as the brain is telling us that our instincts are wrong, they aren't - they are what makes the world go around. Fuck the sanctimonious "self…
/r/seduction04/08/20 05:36 AM
1

Worse, the blackpill.
/r/seduction03/08/20 07:06 PM
2

Online dating is bullshit and it's all about being shallow. Even so, it's a front. No one really means what they mean, because shit never goes how people want it to go. They might put up defenses to drive away people that do not meet some arbitrary criteria, especially in a platform that facilitates it, but that ain't absolute. Nothing is black and white. I guarantee most snotty girls who mouth off about their picky standards aren't as mouthy IRL and their normal self esteem shines through, and …
/r/seduction03/08/20 05:57 AM
1

It would be hard to believe that you've had success if you're honest about that Because the world is not black and white. That's a bullshit perspective instilled by both PUA shit and feminist propaganda, but each for different reasons. It's never been a clear cut case of "I can't get anyone better" because even the legbeard sperg from bio labs won my heart. I started having feelings for her months before anything happened because I'm a softie at heart. It's obvious she liked me because since I d…
/r/seduction03/08/20 05:32 AM
1

The Catcher in the Rye HEY EVERYONE, THIS GUY IS A GREAT BIG PHONY!
/r/seduction03/08/20 05:18 AM
1

The comments are proof enough we should BAN ALL BLACKPILLERS. They are literally crabs in a fucking bucket, but I bet some of the "old schoolers" like them parroting the black-and-white mindsets and 4chan memes.
/r/seduction03/08/20 12:07 AM
2

Don't reply to blackpillers, he'll find some loophole on something, or make up some black-or-white shit assumption and use it to attack you and try to prove you wrong.
/r/seduction03/08/20 12:04 AM
1

Don't reply to blackpillers, they want to bring you down to their level to validate their lack of drive, and cannot stand people coming out of the hole because they can't.
/r/seduction03/08/20 12:03 AM
2

I'm long past that. I came out of the pessimistic hole long ago. I don't give a shit about Chad, I'll never be Chad nor I want to be nor I care. I grew a backbone, I had to. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to call myself a survivor. My biggest fear is not rejection or loneliness. It's to regress into a blackpiller.
/r/seduction02/08/20 08:11 AM
1

PUA books instilled in me the conclusion that no matter what, there would be always someone more alpha that will threaten my world, and I would have to live at perpetual war with the world because women would happily and maliciously fuck me over once someone with more game came along. A bad experience months later sent me over the edge and I had to emotionally close myself to cope. Otherwise I would have become the Hispanic version of the Rodge many years before he went postal. Eventually I grew…
/r/seduction02/08/20 08:06 AM
4

Normal. People. Fail. All. The. Time. Normal people lose state and become awkward creepers too. There's no fucking Registry of Awkward Rejects anywhere in the world. It's all forgotten. There's no fucking #poundmetoo bias against awkward guys in practice either. The only problem is letting ourselves be defined by the thinness of our skins. I swear these "old school PUA" shit books have done more harm than good with their "there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, turbo chads and turbo virgi…
/r/seduction01/08/20 06:29 AM
2

Guys here with actual experience have told me how they have messed up, looked autistic, being called creepy, etc... all in the process of honing their social or seduction skills. Nobody is fuckin flawless and everyone has messed up and guess what, "tomorrow will be another day", they eventually became "alpha dogs" or just "normal" or whatever they were aiming to, and everything negative has been reduced to anecdotes for barbecues. I am fucking autistic for real with a terrible history of psychol…
/r/seduction01/08/20 06:00 AM
1

You should be worried about what to do if she says yes. Like “aight, you think you’re hot shit? Take me out, make me a nice dinner, show me a good time, tell me about yourself and what you do.” I'd say a rejection because they're testing you is considered scarier, since it would mean you're disappointing someone and most guys here don't even have any idea how they're disappointing. So they start acting fake and turning into clowns or locking up and not escalating at all. By personal experience, …
/r/seduction01/08/20 04:00 AM
1

it means you might not have another chance like the one in front of you again. Word of warning, this is why many mess up under a scarcity mindset. They think this chance is the only one ever and they're not allowed to mess up.
/r/seduction31/07/20 08:47 AM
2

Challenging and deconstructing the defeatist/cowardly mindset is really motivating.
/r/seduction31/07/20 08:45 AM
1

Oh god it's like you know me! You have described my inner mess perfectly. Me, I have two sides like goddamn Jekyll and Hyde. The switch only happens when I have a bunch of drinks and all these delusions of morality shut down. I'd love to be Hyde when sober.
/r/seduction31/07/20 07:40 AM
1

You couldn't have deconstructed it better.
/r/seduction31/07/20 07:34 AM
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It's a tumblr specimen. Disregard.
/r/seduction31/07/20 07:20 AM
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While I understand because I have some fucking empathy, let's analyze that: normal people get rejected all the time, so why does that never happen to them? It's literally a feminist boogeyman perpetuated by comedies, meant to discourage us because femtards and femcels are fucked up hateful and resentful people.
/r/seduction31/07/20 06:17 AM
1

Or have stability (be it in life or in the psyche) in spite of that. Circumstances are never black or white. Where I live, everyone moved but me, and when my parents split, my mom moved back. Now we're like two roommates who share stories about the people we try to date.
/r/seduction31/07/20 05:44 AM
1

That's my personal beef with the Old School PUA Community™, they make it so black and white with the "approach 3000000 women TODAY and never pull back or you're a virgin for life" and the "there are only 2 kinds of people, turbo chads and turbo nerds, whose side are you on?" It's creating the blackpillers that shit up places like this. I know because 14 years ago I was one of these blackpillers after getting contaminated by the black and white thinking and ending up as a publicly shamed cringe c…
/r/seduction31/07/20 02:29 AM
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You’re really not going to approach someone or take a risk because you think someone might judge you? The worst that could happen is they say no. They literally believe that. They think they're wagering their reputation and a public rejection equals gossipy character assassination, and that said history will haunt their next attempts like a big L in their forehead.
/r/seduction31/07/20 01:10 AM
2

Many people who sucked at dating became better after working on sales...
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:59 PM
3

For the "old school puas" that get pissed at this POV: your tools will not work on the majority of guys who come for help here. Without all the innergame/self-improvement/whatever "mental masturbation" as you call it, you're just gonna turn these guys into cringe personified, and let's hope they don't get frustrated enough to become blackpillers.
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:58 PM
3

You pretty much said everything I was trying to convey.
/r/seduction30/07/20 09:09 AM
3

The tightest pussy I've been with was a mom of two. The worst experience was with the college girlfriend, she was my age, and was like fucking jello, it felt like my dick wasn't even going inside, yet it was. These were extremes. The rest, I really can't remember specifics, I didn't mind.
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:28 AM
0

I don't think we really want to hear that compared with telling us it's hard.
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:23 AM
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You're both college aged, you should be able to work a solution that make sense. No small hotels you can rent by the hour anywhere? I mean, seriously, car sex only is not a sustainable lifestyle... Edit: your parents should respect that you need privacy at your age.
/r/seduction30/07/20 06:21 AM
3

despite working 60% all the time?
/r/seduction29/07/20 08:59 PM
2

I guess you just don't see them failing. Which means most people won't even see you failing. It's like the opposite of the bad outlooks of an insecure mindset: you tend to forget the good experiences and the bad ones keep coming back to replay themselves; but outside your head, nobody does. I'm gonna admit I have an unhealthy PANIC about it and I'm making an effort to believe my own words because I've seen what I say, yet my nerves refuse to believe it, but if you ask me how the rejections I hav…
/r/seduction29/07/20 12:06 AM
2

And it would be easy to fuck it up for the average lurker of this sub, because something like that happened to me once when I had no reason to lose my cool. As soon as the girl went very forward (uncomfortably forward) with me, I got very nervous due to "social performance anxiety", the feeling I was being tested and forced to respond a certain way when I wasn't feeling it yet. It was a real turnoff on my part.
/r/seduction28/07/20 07:13 PM
1

It's the crazies from FDS/FMS coming to shit up the place.
/r/seduction28/07/20 07:43 AM
1

It's cute when some bozo tries to e-AMOG a poster with the exact same shit he's saying he's doing (manning up and going outside to get some exposure) but reframed as an insult to feel himself better.
/r/seduction28/07/20 07:40 AM
1

You're talking about keeping oneself's cool when rejected, right? You make it sound like rejection is not an option.
/r/seduction28/07/20 06:15 AM
1

I agree, it's the only thing that has worked with me. I'm like the strange case of Boring Traumatized Robot Dr. Jekyll and Almighty Crowd Leader Mr. Hyde, and I'd love to be Hyde more often, not just after I have some drinks. But in my case, it sure ain't the devil. It's the sanctimonious pedantic and straitlaced angel in the other shoulder that's holding me back and trying to exorcize me from my instincts. I need more devil in my life!
/r/seduction28/07/20 01:36 AM
1

He's a blackpiller who thinks AMOGing redditors will prove him right. Disregard.
/r/seduction28/07/20 01:14 AM
2

The problem is that the fear goes beyond the act of rejection itself, it becomes a fatalist catastrophic delusion. People think they're gonna get public shamed, "and then everyone clapped" as femtards say, and their reputation ruined with every single chick present that saw 'em being insulted and humiliated or heard about it ruining any further prospect because they imagine the next chick will say "hey it's the chump that just got rejected, go away creep and go back to the porn" and that days la…
/r/seduction28/07/20 12:32 AM
2

I know, I'm just sharing a POV. In the end it comes down to whatever we personally want each.
/r/seduction27/07/20 02:41 PM
1

It's acceptable if someone wants practice because the lack of experience might be a cause of insecurity and they're afraid of ending up against the worst case scenario, meaning a woman that it's completely the opposite of your girl and shames them for their inexperience. Or just because you're too horny to wait until you get sex the legit way. That's what I did, since I value more the "first time when you're in love" which is not necessarily the first time with a certain person, or the first tim…
/r/seduction27/07/20 10:32 AM
2

I owe thanks to some of the posts in this sub and Models by Mark Manson for helping me get to this point. Some posters are really gonna get butthurt and might tell you you're still a virgin and/or that they fuck more women than you. Ignore the noise.
/r/seduction27/07/20 10:23 AM
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The "pick up guys" get offended and lash out all the time, lash out against people with different goals, lash out against people with doubts, lash out against people who tried their stuff and failed, lash out against people who need therapy, etc. and think that somehow playing AMOG online is somehow useful.
/r/seduction27/07/20 02:09 AM
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The answer is always somewhere in the middle. Self-improvement should be the path but not the only goal, and PUA tools are tools, not a creed. And something people always forget are that we are supposed to be having FUN in life. The problem is when the PUA tools are aggressively pushed to the lower end of impressionable insecure men who most likely aren't stable, are jaded, have no sense of calibration, and don't even have basic social skills or a basic idea about the dynamics because they are o…
/r/seduction26/07/20 10:41 PM
2

The most cringe shit is the endless bickering "macho PUAs" against the "Self improvement" crew, calling each other virgin pussies and that they fuck more than the other and that my philosophy is better than yours. The latter might be too slow and mental masturbatory, but the former aren't doing themselves any favors since they don't realize most frustrated guys here just want to be normal and not Mr. Total Alpha Dog Playboy that will go back to have cold AMOG revenge on his school bullies. Nor t…
/r/seduction25/07/20 10:59 PM
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Hey readers, don't be negative. How the guy behaved with OP is also important, not just her side of the story. And this is the kind of stuff that we should hear more from women: the things that you felt in the moment. Congrats OP!
/r/seduction25/07/20 10:49 PM
-1

Yeah, but some damage control measures just in case of total failure would be handy. I feel like where I live this is forbidden by some unwritten rules and it's fucking full of leftist feminist bullshit everywhere.
/r/seduction25/07/20 12:20 AM
1

Text drives me crazy. Never know what to say, the constant "response time tug of war", the feeling of being forced to carry the conversation to be notable, the preached obligation of opening with lame smartass jokes that feels just wrong and completely out of character compared to real life so I don't do it and just talk like a creeper, etc. I get exposed as an autistic sperglord and give an impression similar to the one I used to be 15 years ago. Real life communication is superior, it's way ha…
/r/seduction25/07/20 12:17 AM
1

There's a gray area where some not as pretty girls can manage to be attractive to a guy depending on his type and her personality, body language, etc. That is great because they can be not as intimidating yet you still like them. Flexible standards help the newcomer a lot because since the lack of experience doesn't give much of a right to be a chooser. Instead of taking to heart the PUA propaganda telling the shy newb to go game and fuck a 10 RIGHT NOW OR YOU ARE A FUCKING PATHETIC LOSER AND FA…
/r/seduction24/07/20 11:56 PM
1

Thanks. I am way too self conscious about messing up or being humiliated by feminists and being too noticeable to the point it visibly damages my reputation and ruins any potential approach afterwards because the next girl could recognize me being rejected recently and do it too from the start because I would be "marked as pathetic"
/r/seduction24/07/20 03:29 PM
1

How the fuck could you endure that? I would have locked myself at home forever or worse, flip shit and actually end up in jail. That's the shit you just need something to defend yourself to save yourself the public shame
/r/seduction23/07/20 10:03 AM
1

Cut yourself some fucking slack; you're new and inexperienced. Why on earth would you expect to be some amazing casanova who isn't scared of anything? I feel like that is unforgivable, like I have no right to be inexperienced because first, I give a good physical impression and people like me in general, after a certain age you're not supposed to be inexperienced without being judged with red flags or looked down upon, and the whole "i'm a man and she ain't got time for bullshit" cliché so I'll …
/r/seduction23/07/20 06:18 AM
1

C'mon, not everyone is that confident. Otherwise why are we here? People always press X to doubt.
/r/seduction23/07/20 03:03 AM
3

I know you are right but that just feels WRONG in my bones after so much politically correct indoctrination I've gotten. How the fuck am I supposed to overcome that moralistic lock up without being a fucking spaz with tourettes and creeping out the girl and making a public ass out of yourself? I can't rely on girls doing the kino first so that I feel "allowed" to go all out (and guess what, only one time I've been rejected when that happened... but damn it hurt, I was dead for a week), because i…
/r/seduction23/07/20 02:58 AM
1

Go back to 4chan
/r/seduction23/07/20 02:55 AM
1

Ask him out, or do an "inception" thing, I mean plant the idea of going out somewhere in his mind during small talk so that he feels encouraged and then he comes up with the date hopefully.
/r/seduction23/07/20 02:53 AM
2

To add towards what people are saying here: ignore the all the PUA purveyors and their aggressive marketing that tries to guilt you or will make you hate yourself because you're not ready for it but they insult your for that, or worse, turn you into a redpiller. Focus on the self improvement stuff so that you can be a better yourself just for yourself. THAT is the more pressing concern now.
/r/seduction23/07/20 02:50 AM
4

It's not really about PUA shit. It's more about getting guys with a sack of insecurities in their minds to become normal.
/r/seduction18/07/20 08:34 PM
13

The concern about not being needy has turned me into being too aloof. God, I'm so autistic.
/r/seduction14/07/20 10:49 PM
-1

Don't be a doomer. The media is making stuff seem worse than it is. Apocalyptic stuff always sells.
/r/seduction12/07/20 10:16 PM
1

How do you dress? This is important - it's a big part of the first impression, and you can manipulate your perceived value as a catch... It's taking advantage of stereotypes, in a sense.
/r/seduction14/06/20 09:15 AM
1

That part about bdsm-like retention... You know, modern PC society has brainwashed men to think this is wrong and shameful. I'm a victim of that too.
/r/seduction11/06/20 06:41 PM
1

They're beginning to invade.
/r/seduction11/06/20 06:29 PM
1

Embrace, extend, extinguish... here we go
/r/seduction11/06/20 06:19 PM
1

Rejection feels like a judgement on me as a person, a brand in my forehead, ruthless public shaming shown to everyone like some "cancel culture" shit. It's like I go backwards through time and become the same maladjusted bullied kid from elementary who had no right to be part of the world while everyone else is accepted because whoever rejected me saw through the facade that is my personality development over the last 20 years, and realized I'm a... I dunno, an autistic overprotected pussy rejec…
/r/seduction11/06/20 03:51 AM
0

Personally, I would never play hard to get, but I might look like I'm doing so because I'm excessively being aloof because of being insecure about seeming desperate. It's like trying to not show weakness, not testing a woman. That's just me. Keep it in mind as a possibility.
/r/seduction31/05/20 02:59 AM
1

There's nothing wrong in looking for a woman by approaching a lot of them. Don't fall for the sanctimonious bullshit society keeps telling men to not to do.
/r/seduction31/05/20 02:52 AM
1

Don't burst the redditor scripted retort bubble.
/r/seduction14/05/20 02:22 AM
5

Why sexist? It's the same the other way around, I wouldn't tell you "what men like" in terms of behavior, because I'd end up giving you garbage advice that even I wouldn't like in practice... Yep, sometimes we don't even like what we say we like. Both men and women aren't rational beings when it comes to attraction. Honestly, I guess a post like yours would be way better received if framed not as "guys, we like so and so" but as "I liked that because at the moment it made me feel so and so" beca…
/r/seduction14/05/20 02:19 AM
36

A condensed idea: Stop wasting brain power on whether you'll be worthy of her approval, and use it on whether SHE will be worthy of YOUR approval.
/r/seduction21/04/20 08:40 PM
5

Sometimes, somehow, different posts hit different nerves. This one really hit me, since I was taught to be ashamed of my own sexuality and getting over that shit has been an odyssey. I keep overcoming it in select occasions, have a lot of fun, then I forget, and go back to feeling powerless and handicapped, having to go through self-therapy all over again.
/r/seduction19/03/20 08:57 PM
1

I think I'm becoming the other way around.
/r/seduction22/12/19 06:33 AM
1

Asking this question definitely does tho. If you can't even question yourself to actually learn that a certain worry is irrelevant, you're defeating the purpose of telling people to be honest to themselves.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:51 AM
3

just PUA caricature "wanna fite u fuckin pussy?" standard talk. Disregard.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:48 AM
1

The best way to start is to go zero expectations. Go for a while not trying to get pussy at all. Then talk to girls anyway, no ulterior motives, you leave out of your own volition, etc. But be honest to yourself about it. Eventually this will desensitize you.
/r/seduction28/11/19 06:44 AM
1

I agree with many contrasting comments here. Not with the classic belligerent PUA babble and the obligatory sycophant replying "bEsT cOmMeNt eVar!11!11!!" But there's two different types of hard to get. The one who turns into a wall (don't do this, nobody likes talking to a wall) or just acts like literally doesn't even give a shit about what the guy is doing. To us, that feels humiliating. Maybe a guy with no confidence will drag himself trying to fish for a compliment from you, and that's no g…
/r/seduction28/11/19 12:29 AM
1

Heh, I'm living something that right now in fact, with my fwb, and I'm allowing myself to love that woman like an obsessed and perverted imbecile while asking for nothing in return. Yes, it's one sided. And she knows all of it. And we're good friends anyway. I'm psychologically prepared to let her go to the point I'm starting to lose the fear of rejection, and getting the push to start doing approaches and more game because I know I'll eventually have to forget about her. Yes, she knows that too…
/r/seduction27/11/19 12:13 AM
1

I agree, but I feel you never reach that positivity and love when you act like some feelings make you weak. We gotta learn to lose.
/r/seduction26/11/19 11:56 PM
3

Nah, fuck this. This is the "forever living at war while suppressing your emotions" PUA shit that messed me up long ago. Me, if the oneitis can be responsibly self sustained (i.e. with the grounded realization that nothing lasts forever so that an eventual end is not a shock), I allow myself to live it fully, because YOLO. But you can't give that luxury to any girl.
/r/seduction26/11/19 11:43 PM
2

This is a GREAT POST and I can't understand why people got so triggered. Are you guys trying to discourage yourselves? Would you rather have a jilted feminist call us "creeps" again so you get an excuse to stay in your comfort zone?
/r/seduction26/11/19 12:34 PM
1

The mistake we always make: when we're not feeling chemistry (if any) we try harder to please the girl because we're blaming ourselves and therefore we look worse, and then she rejects us. She was gonna do it anyway because there it wasn't working to begin with. It's best to be the one rejecting, and leave before it gets awkward.
/r/seduction26/11/19 01:25 AM
9

It is not our responsibility to safeguard the "sanctity of someone else's relationship".
/r/seduction24/11/19 03:25 PM
1

PUA materials tend to present this in a way more belligerent and alienating way. You know, the constant "you're a fucking doomed virgin pussy if you're taking some time to be convinced, have fun with porn you fucking loser I fuck 4567875434897 girls each week" tone that reads between lines.
/r/seduction24/11/19 07:07 AM
5

we get it, we live in a society
/r/seduction24/11/19 02:40 AM
1

I do have AA. The fwb is an accident.
/r/seduction23/11/19 01:01 PM
1

I know this is a month old but found it by digging... You are being brainwashed by feminist drivel. Don't let that castrate you. Women are as much as animals as we are.
/r/seduction23/11/19 08:16 AM
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Nah, not interested in de-evolving to a vanilla sex mentality. It spices up my thing with my FWB. It'd be like also stopping contact with her so I can get other hookups. Neither I am interested on having nervous breakdowns over a raging sex drive flooding my thought processes like an itch that you can't even apply numbing cream to it. Porn runs on my brain without external videos already.
/r/seduction23/11/19 07:03 AM
5

The best advice a woman can give a man is not really advice. Just recount tales of your experiences and how you felt about it. "This guy did X and I liked it because I felt Y. This other guy did A and it rubbed me the wrong way because I felt B. And this other guy did F and it was meaningless" Stuff like that will be infinitely more appreciated. If I told women advice on men it would be inconsistent and I'd tell them to be overtly forward... Then one day a chick did that and I felt really uncomf…
/r/seduction21/11/19 06:22 PM
2

there's no "norm", it's all what you two make out of it. I've seen all kinds of shit and anything is possible. Or as the Assassins say: Nothing is true, everything is permitted
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:36 AM
2

hahahaha the answers man all the time in borderline public places If you have zero privacy then try doing location scouting for basic hotels, something that only gives you a bed and a bathroom. Most likely 90% of customers are people who go to fuck there, typically cheaters. Where I live, living with your parents at any age is the norm, so there's a market of small hotels specifically meant for sexy time in privacy.
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:30 AM
2

Back then in 2005/2006, when I first got exposed to PUA materials and some infamous mailing list, the cartoonish exaggerated attitude of the community pretty much shamed me into becoming a jaded, cynical emotionless "schemer" convinced that relationships are for "virgins" and women were ruthless demons that would destroy your self esteem and fuck you over as soon as you'd leave your guard down or someone with a bigger PUA bite came along, so you would have to live at war forever. Guess what, tha…
/r/seduction20/11/19 05:24 AM
2

Sent you a PM.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:15 AM
1

Chile.
/r/seduction19/11/19 05:08 AM
1

Eh, I'm from a different country, different language. I just know what I've seen in my 'hood.
/r/seduction19/11/19 04:29 AM
2

does not compute
/r/seduction19/11/19 04:05 AM
1

you have no fucking idea what's it like in a proper environment regulated by independent women taking care of themselves and of each other. It's good! they rent a discreet house or apartment, they try to keep stuff clean, they always have condoms, etc. And why not? Only women and bullies put so much importance on something like that. The romanticization of the first time is unnecessary, and can be completely detrimental to a man's self-confidence.
/r/seduction19/11/19 04:04 AM
-1

That's why you research online. I have no idea about where you live, but for me, there were always places on the internet where people commented on the escort market in my city. Previous customers would share experiences and let you know whether an escort was just false advertising that only acts like a realdoll or actually delivered by going full pornstar on you.
/r/seduction19/11/19 04:00 AM
1

Not necessarily, but you'll have one less weight off your shoulders. You'll know how to touch a woman already so you won't be all doubtful, stuttery or too fearful when it comes to the actual physical act. It's like choosing training mode in a fighting game so you can practice the moves with an opponent you know won't KO you (read: not reject you or get turned off by your inexperience, since it's her job to be there for you)
/r/seduction19/11/19 03:55 AM
-4

Hell naw. They never do what they say they do. And most lesbians I know are drinking the "shame the virgin, they're patriarchal gamer joker nutzi school shooters, another i-word Rodge copycat" koolaid. Most likely it won't be someone as chill as you're being.
/r/seduction19/11/19 03:52 AM
1

The way it needs to be said is "being yourself does not mean doing what you're doing right now; if that means being insecure, self-conscious all the time and a degree of self-shame, and showing that through awkwardness, then you're not being yourself."
/r/seduction18/11/19 08:42 PM
12

The cartoon PUA outrage is what keeps alienating people. Failing is okay. It's part of what NORMAL people do. But apparently, the PUA cartoons insist on the fact that there's no such thing as normal people, just gamer joker virgins and master alpha dog overlords with 2 different lays each day and no emotions.
/r/seduction18/11/19 12:50 AM
41

No, Karen will take the kids and speak with the manager.
/r/seduction17/11/19 08:33 PM
1

I've been there man. I know all about these toxic paranoid thoughts. And it's almost always because we can't let go of some shitty past experiences and we forget the good stuff. We don't wanna forgive nor we should, but we can forget the bad things by reframing them by comparing with other better experiences that we shouldn't have forgotten.
/r/seduction17/11/19 11:54 AM
1

What I think OP is getting at: The former is shamed as bullying material and called a virgin i-word, the latter is literally a public enemy. He seems to think that rejections will be public black marks that will stick on his forehead forever, ruining future prospects. Alternatively, running afoul of feminist lesbian SJWs in charge of HR who will see him as Fair Game Future School Shooter Gamer Joker (if known for being rejected) or Literally Patriarchy Hitler (if known to be successful), maybe?
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:59 AM
1

Again, if you do it, you should be doing it for YOURSELF instead of being concerned about the girl judging you. You want to like the girl, you approach her to find out - you should be the owner of your life. If she judges you badly, you wouldn't like her anyway isn't it? So it's not another rejection, it'd be a failure to measure up to your standards. Always reframe interactions to put yourself in control. Be a bit selfish and hedonistic, enough to externalize your wants and desires. You don't h…
/r/seduction17/11/19 06:28 AM
3

The social performance anxiety is a big thing that it's good to have addressed. It's one of the more alienating consequences when guys with no experience try to start doing anything.
/r/seduction16/11/19 02:40 PM
1

Don't try to please her, or be hounded by thoughts of "living up to her unknown standards" Turn it around. It's you who's getting to know her to know whether you like her or not.
/r/seduction15/11/19 03:12 AM
1

Whoever uses the i-word is also an SJW wanker.
/r/seduction15/11/19 02:20 AM
1

Stop putting yourself in the position of "being judged by their standards" and stressing yourself into trying to be something that they might like. Instead, be the one who judges them on your own standards: talk to them with no initial ulterior motives, forget that you might want something with them, put that on the backburner for a while, and just think about getting to know them to know whether do you like them as a person or not. That's a start.
/r/seduction15/11/19 02:12 AM
1

Chile.
/r/seduction14/11/19 11:05 PM
1

Hell, I'm almost friendless now due to the great politics mess up happening right now in my country, it's polarizing everyone and I refuse to associate any longer with toxic circlejerks of people who would happily have me beat up for not being a resentful political fanatic. So it's pretty much back to zero for me aside from a bunch of useless acquaintances who only attract lgbwhatever/feminist/nu-male people and are good just to play video games with, two or three gay guys from that group who re…
/r/seduction14/11/19 04:58 PM
1

if "yourself" means being awkward and insecure, then you're not being yourself. Besides not everyone has to like that. That's why these guys still get rejected a lot, they just don't mind it.
/r/seduction14/11/19 06:40 AM
8

Then you missed the point and are just criticizing the cartoony old-school PUA crap. Most stuff we're trying to apply are self-improvement, to learn how to externalize the real us with confidence, instead of self-censoring and castrating ourselves. Learning how to get the chemistry that only happens when we're confidently being ourselves and not missing the chances to do it IS what we call "smooth."
/r/seduction14/11/19 06:38 AM
1

Yeah, I should have called her out because I really didn't like being cornered that way.
/r/seduction14/11/19 12:12 AM
8

I guess the old adage applies: "they never do what they say they do." Besides, reddit is full of femtards.
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:48 PM
1

Women would help more if they shared honest experiences of what they didn't like, what did woo them, and what did they truly feel without lying to themselves.
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:32 PM
1

You know, sometimes I get "social performance anxiety" when a girl is too forward. As if I'm being put on the spotlight and I start to worry about "what does she wants me to do now?". I end up blowing it because the nervousness becomes evident, I de-evolve into a clumsy fuck, and then I feel ashamed of being a failure. But when that has happened I wasn't that attracted to the girl yet, it's like she was skipping around the flirting. Is this the expected equivalent of girls creeped out by guys be…
/r/seduction13/11/19 11:26 PM
3

BOTTOM TEXT
/r/seduction13/11/19 02:24 AM
1

I think it is the right mindset. "This probably won't work and that's OK." Most things don't work. Also it's important that some of us feel like we're not "supposed" to be new at whatever age we are at, or supposed to get rejected, which leads to toxic thoughts like considering rejection a public verdict on ourselves. As Arnold would put it, "STAHP IT!"
/r/seduction13/11/19 01:36 AM
2

Yeah, tell me about it. I'm like that too, same lack of confidence except for these days when I just "blow up" and go all out as if all my psych issues ever existed. I've had girls throw themselves at me on these occasions. Mind if I vent? It's like self therapy. It's very hard to shut down my brain, I'm kinda neuro-atypical and I didn't have the best childhood and adolescence to make an understatement. Bullied at school, psychologically castrated at home by jilted mom & feminist sister. I'm sti…
/r/seduction13/11/19 01:26 AM
8

kinda off topic, but is it me or many hardline anti-porn activists want all sex to de-evolve into vanilla sex?
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:57 PM
6

ok coomer
/r/seduction12/11/19 11:55 PM
1

I don't think this was your fault at all. I smell this girl was one of these who live off Tinder welfare: get stuff from men taking them out and then bail.
/r/seduction12/11/19 12:46 PM
1

And therein lies everything wrong about me. I take everything personally. I think "myself" is not enough because nobody else has to settle for themselves except for the bottom rung of social hermits who gave up on all hope and waste money on e-thots. That acceptance is defeatism worthy of a pouty child saying spitefully "like i ever wanted to [raspberry]". That normal people do not go through that. That everyone sees what a garbage embarrassing reject I am, deduce I am the same worthless bullyin…
/r/seduction08/11/19 06:20 AM
1

Eh... That won't help me. I don't mind physical pain at all.
/r/seduction08/11/19 05:54 AM
1

3 doritos later...
/r/seduction06/11/19 10:01 PM
3

You mean they're actually volcels?
/r/seduction03/11/19 02:05 PM
15

Aww, they think they're Gillette heroes, "not cool not cool" These are not the so called "involuntary celibates", these are male feminists. They're the top users of the i-word to whoever they don't like or want to use as a strawman to flaunt their supposed "feminist and political moral authority." As OP says, don't let them (or the hostile, resentful females that they humiliate themselves for) shame you or brainwash you. Chances are they themselves are the creeps and are projecting out of their …
/r/seduction03/11/19 05:33 AM
1

Taking note of this. I have no social life right now since I had to hit the reset button hard because everyone went political as fuck and they're all toxic now.
/r/seduction03/11/19 03:16 AM
4

I agree with the honesty angle, I'm also sick of women's mixed messages, but seriously... C'mon, in practice you girls never respond the way you say you're going to, and never have liked what you tell guys you like. It's guaranteed pity from you. The "game" of playful chemistry shouldn't be taken to a simplistic black/white extreme as PUA pushers say, but it's still what makes it worth it because it's fun. Because I've seen and lived it. And whenever I've done the opposite, it's been nothing but…
/r/seduction02/11/19 01:47 AM
1

Then aim low, go for some girls you don't like that much, there you can get your basic experience. Lower your standards a lot. Then you can go up, once you're assured you're not a virgin anymore.
/r/seduction01/11/19 05:36 PM
49

e-thots are cancer, but people who follow them are AIDS.
/r/seduction01/11/19 06:31 AM
2

Forced? It's a trade of goods. She gives you pussy, you give her money. She could refuse and tell you to go fuck yourself after taking your money, but she doesn't, because a happy customer is a returning customer. They're using their feminine assets to get us, the horny dicks, to fork over cash in return. I'm talking independent self-employed ones. Or "syndicates" of women working together covering each other's asses. At least where I live, it's done that way. I mean, for fuck's sake, I befriend…
/r/seduction01/11/19 06:18 AM
3

I feel like a broken record for suggesting this to virgins, but... why not blowing some money with an escort? you get a feel for the sex act, get rid of the "v-card stigma" on the back of your mind holding you back, and actually have practice on touching a woman without risking her getting turned off and leaving because you did something wrong.
/r/seduction31/10/19 09:17 PM
6

Most of us just want to be normal, so it should be even easier! Open your minds, nobody is doomed.
/r/seduction30/10/19 09:30 PM
2

I love this sub because the self-improvement talk is miles ahead of the classic audience alienating stock PUA cliches. I mean, I have little experience yet I've realized that whatever I've learned in the real world is not a fluke, it's something true and worthy about myself, and can help others. That builds confidence! In contrast, any other place would just call me names and try to attack me personally for daring to not follow "da rulz" The people asking for a specific situation? I ignore these…
/r/seduction30/10/19 05:16 AM
15

I've always wanted some "fall standing up" strategies to handle rejection without getting awkward or not give my psyche chances to ruminate and make it personal. This can help...
/r/seduction29/10/19 04:49 AM
7

My sister met his husband that way and openly told me his honesty and his way of being true to himself was what she loved. Whenever they have fights, it's because the honesty has been compromised. It's not what you do, it's how you do it.
/r/seduction27/10/19 10:03 PM
1

I want to pick apart this entire post to point out all the stuff I've realized to be true through unexpected circumstances. EDIT: of course the hardline PUA guys would get offended and call OP a "virgin" for not following the "method"
/r/seduction27/10/19 09:58 PM
2

Get this on your mind: "DM;HS" Forget about your feelings, look at it this way: she fucked you while on a break. She might as well had done that during the relationship instead of justifying it to herself with the breakup-makeup charade. You hold no responsibility, you were the affair, got some sex out of their drama and owe nothing to no one. Livin' the dream.
/r/seduction26/10/19 11:29 PM
1

I guess this is my only way out. I just realized I have to hit a hard reset on my social circle and I have to start over. They're all worthless to me, toxic (but they think they're enlightened) and the best people from the gropu already drifted away and are only footnotes in my FB feed. Maybe I should try getting close to these people as I ditch the main group, too. They got my back when I was in trouble, I should have been closer to them instead of the main group.
/r/seduction25/10/19 09:46 PM
2

Let your personality show through and don't be afraid to be bold and a little goofy. But keep your intention. Your intention is to get with her. You're not a clown. Holy fuck as I read this I had a gut reaction telling me THIS IS WRONG AND EVIL and cringed like being yelled at. The sex-negative mental conditioning did one hell of a number on me. At least I can now realize I'm being bullshitted by my own brain and keep reading and realizing it's the logical truth. I mean why else would a woman ag…
/r/seduction25/10/19 12:16 AM
4

Escorts. There's no pressure, you're paying to skip all the stuff that stops you from advancing and go straight to unleashing the repressed urges, you're accepted the moment you fork over the cash. And you get experience, learning how to touch a woman.
/r/seduction24/10/19 11:56 PM
8

You gotta filter all that stuff. In practice it means to not be needy, but PUA pushers sell it to you as if there's only two kinds of people in the world, turbovirgins and turbochads, and "you don't wanna be a turbovirgin don't you? Agree with me and buy my stuff you fucking pussy or you will die alone" and think normal people and normal relationships do not exist.
/r/seduction24/10/19 08:26 PM
1

I used to be too delicate with my dick when it came to actually putting it into the pussy. I worried too much about how to put it, so naturally I got soft when I put on the condom, my subconsciousness was racing with thoughts about how to do it without hurting my gf, without bending my dick, aiming for the pussy, the amount of force needed... My previous experiences were with women who took control and just grabbed my dick and put it inside, I didn't have to do anything. I had to learn that none…
/r/seduction24/10/19 07:50 PM
2

That one drink is important. Many of us just shut down in self-censorship when sober. A tiny little bit of booze can make us stop thinking about our straightlaced psychological constraints and stop worrying, so if we have game, it'll come out.
/r/seduction24/10/19 03:08 AM
2

Yeah. If I went full cheesy "because I have to compete with the rest of the guys' tinder one liners" I'd be a fucking fake joke, and when I tried it some of the gals got pissed off in an uppity "i'm smarter than you" way. So I prefer moving quickly to real life communication where it's easier for me to be myself.
/r/seduction24/10/19 02:31 AM
3

We live in a society.
/r/seduction23/10/19 09:07 PM
2

first useful, well founded and encouraging online dating post I see. Frame this shit.
/r/seduction23/10/19 09:06 PM
2

BOTTOM TEXT
/r/seduction23/10/19 08:14 PM
1

I didn't feel it, I got so hard I could lift tons with my dick
/r/seduction23/10/19 06:42 PM
1

Frame this shit.
/r/seduction23/10/19 05:00 PM
1

Yeah, but I understand his worry because he's nearing 30. It's not the same as being inexperienced at 19.
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:08 AM
1

Just wing it, I guess, and if it doesn't work the next time you'll do better. If a woman is already attracted to you, she should make it easier for you to break out of your shell when it comes to the second, third or fourth moves, so to speak. Check the new replies, someone posted something good in response to a different comment I made
/r/seduction23/10/19 02:02 AM
1

Let me guess, you're scared of being discriminated over your lack of experience? I'm trying to make your insecurity easier to understand here, so that we can try to psych you up.
/r/seduction23/10/19 12:39 AM
1

This is good advice no matter how meme it sounds. I did that and took one hell of a weight off my shoulders.
/r/seduction23/10/19 12:37 AM
1

I think he fears he'll be dismissed and looked down upon for not having experience.
/r/seduction23/10/19 12:36 AM
3

You WILL have to be more forward to make him break outta his shell. How forward? Pretty much spell out to him you wanna spend time with him, you don't have to be that direct, as the saying goes, show, don't tell, make sure your body language shows he's your priority, and for the love of all gods and devils, don't be misleading! Shy men always get intimidated by stuff like mixed messages, reverse psychology and all that "I'll make him jealous" drivel, he might think you're just not interested, an…
/r/seduction22/10/19 10:54 PM
1

he's not gonna do shit, otherwise why does this place exist? She needs to be more forward.
/r/seduction22/10/19 10:50 PM
2

All fine, hard with bjs until the condom makes you limp? Nervousness and insecurity. Yeah, I've been there. Don't be "careful", at least that's what happened to me when I went limp right before penetration
/r/seduction22/10/19 10:46 PM
1

Bullet dodged. Sounds like an eternally triggered dumblretta
/r/seduction22/10/19 01:22 AM
2

Who cares, you make it sound like it's such a huge difference Nobody cares about a few years of difference, no matter who's the older party That's just an urban legend prejudice from elementary school
/r/seduction22/10/19 01:17 AM
1

Take note I don't consciously think the following. I just "feel" all these things, like a conditioned physical reflex. I take rejection very personally. This is because it feels like a deliberate reference to my shit teenage years, a validation of all the insecurities, and an intentional mean-spirited personal insult and life sentence to ostracism which I cannot defend myself from. It's like interactive bullying flashbacks. Even if it's polite and civilized, I feel she's thinking the opposite on…
/r/seduction21/10/19 10:43 PM
1

Badi Dea.
/r/seduction21/10/19 09:53 PM
11

I always try to do this for fun, but I inevitably end up pulling back because I feel I'm "overstepping bounds" or being creepy, it's like a reflex. And the current #poundmetoo climate doesn't help. The funny thing is that women always stare at me on the street and I never realize it. People always point it out to me afterwards.
/r/seduction21/10/19 09:49 PM
3

It comes down to the same tenet: "it's not what you're supposed to do, it's what you WANT to do"
/r/seduction21/10/19 09:46 PM
2

This is what spawned the Fedora Euphoria
/r/seduction21/10/19 12:15 AM
14

You're too concerned about what are you "supposed" to do instead of what you WANT to do. Nobody can forbid you from doing and feeling what you do and feel. It's not just being yourself, it's being true to yourself, and that way stopping the self-censorship. We are people, not characters.
/r/seduction20/10/19 03:56 PM
1

In the same situation. I take everything personally. I get flashbacks.
/r/seduction20/10/19 01:08 AM
1

Physically cockblocked? I'd take it way too personally. I wouldn't be able to deal with such a public humiliation
/r/seduction19/10/19 06:34 PM
1

DiCaprio may be a "pretty boy" but he sure ain't feminine He's like the cool guy I'd follow and would get me motivated That is a masculine trait
/r/seduction19/10/19 04:41 AM
1

In Soviet Russia, Power is in YOU!!
/r/seduction19/10/19 04:37 AM
2

Don't be like me. Don't fall into "it's the end of the world if this doesn't work"
/r/seduction19/10/19 04:30 AM
0

I wouldn't be able to deal with the shame if that happened to me
/r/seduction19/10/19 04:29 AM
3

German style quote marks.
/r/seduction19/10/19 12:30 AM
5

German quote marks.
/r/seduction19/10/19 12:30 AM
1

That's why I say it has to be put in the backburner until he feels more confident. Walk before you run.
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:47 PM
1

I guess I will. I need to cry and let all my rage out, I feel mature enough to admit it instead of holding it up and playing it cool. I don't put people in a pedestal, I assume I am in a deep hole, since everyone is normal. And I just want to be normal. Maybe I should start asking the friends I trust what do they really think about me and opening myself to real criticism, it's not gonna be as bad as my own self-criticism since they met me as a cool guy with no traces of being a loser. I mean, I'…
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:44 PM
2

Going solo feels scary. Feels like nobody else would also do it, so you'd be singled out and branded easily.
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:18 PM
4

This is pua shit in a nutshell "My way is the only way otherwise you're a cuck and i have a bigger dick" I don't agree with your idea, but if it works for you, and you are satisfied, more power to you, that's all it matters in the end.
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:05 PM
1

It doesn't work when I feel like the consequences, not the rejection itself, rate up to 11. I don't feel like "I got rejected" I feel like they completely figured me out and I'm being publicly shown "my place" and laughing about it Instead of "I told him no, I wasn't into him" it's "I told him no because he must be a fucking sad virgin chump, nobody pay attention to him, let him die alone as he deserves, who the hell did he think he was" That is not true on the outside, it hasn't been for like 1…
/r/seduction18/10/19 04:51 PM
3

Next time you try to hang with them and they give the bf line, say something like "I'm not really looking for a girlfriend but it's adorable that you thought about it like that" or something else along those lines. Remind them that they're taking the situation too seriously and to just 'go with the flow' using humor or flirting. this could be useful as a "duck/roll" technique. I always take the "bf" drop as a passive aggressive dismissal, and feels like a nearly biological contradiction to keep …
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:35 AM
1

on a related question, how do you deal with the public shame when that happens? I mean everyone now knows what happened
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:28 AM
1

YES YES YES YES I have a friends with benefit/business/whatever/it's complicated, who is a pretty average and generic kisser, but damn right I love everything else about her and she drives me crazy with a smile and a stare. If it was possible, I'd date her and never look back.
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:26 AM
1

The anxiety over talking to a girl with the (conscious or unconscious) goal to get into her pants (or into ANY girl's pants) is holding you back. You need to detach yourself from that goal by prioritizing "just having innocent fun with anyone" so that talking to girls starts feeling as natural as talking to people you're not interested in. Focus on strangers in general, and girls will be part of these strangers. Do it for fun, don't think about getting with them or whether you like them or not, …
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:19 AM
1

To arouse him? Things my ex did to me (and then I did back), let's see, gently scratch his palm with your thumb while holding hands, that sent jolts through my nerves... Also, one day we were having sodas with friends at a mall, she took a little sip of it and kissed me with it. That was fucking hot and nobody noticed
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:07 AM
2

2) Get rejected by someone, anyone. For example: ask a barista for a discount on your coffee. You'll get a no, and it won't feel bad, it won't hurt your ego. The more you get used to people saying no the less you will associate rejection with your ego and self-worth Christ, I can't... it DOES hit my ego, I feel like a fool, I feel like I'm gonna be the gossip of the month, that I'll never live it down, etc. Rejection has completely destroyed me before. The most recent time, I was learning to pla…
/r/seduction18/10/19 05:00 AM
3

Feminists are no one's type. You'll be learning slowly.
/r/seduction17/10/19 10:52 PM
5

Either you dodged a bullet or you gotta lawyer up for the incoming #poundmetoo Never stick your dick in crazy
/r/seduction17/10/19 10:49 PM
8

I mean, as long as the girl is forward with me I lose all inhibitions and do it right because 1) I feel like I'm given the green light so all the self-castrating social conditioning shuts down and there's no fear of getting #poundmetoo'd, and 2) at that point if she's being forward with me she's obviously down with whatever I do. Total confidence. But when I have to initiate, meaning 90% of the time, I'm a retard.
/r/seduction17/10/19 10:17 PM
11

I think the touching thing when you can is paramount. It expresses that you have a physical interest. Eventually I was massaging her thighs underneath the table I cannot comprehend how this happens. Maybe it's my social conditioning. I feel like that's a recipe for disaster, I feel so weird trying, and it comes out too half hearted or too forward.
/r/seduction17/10/19 08:18 PM
4

I don't know if this online culture is getting guys to think like it's their job to be on full pick-up mode 100% of the time and if not they are weak, It's not, it's been SOP -for many years- so PUA purveyors can shame and scare insecure men into buying their materials. Real life is way more flexible.
/r/seduction17/10/19 05:48 AM
2

Instead of thinking about "rules" and "honor" and "time", ask yourself this: Are you horny? Do you watch porn? Do you want to have sex? Are you eager for the physical act of it? If yes to any, then YES, go fuck an escort. Do it because YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX, not because of some stressing, peer pressuring concern about a glorified "v-card" Otherwise, do it anyway. That way you'll stop being concerned about the "TWENTY ONE YEAR OLD BURGIN INTEL AMD WHATEVER" and you'll start learning how to touch w…
/r/seduction17/10/19 03:13 AM
5

Fuck that noise. My hands are silky smooth and I take pride on that. I don't even think about them. I once took the hand of a trashy low class ghetto girl and she was mystified by my "doctor hands" Besides, I personally have a thing for women with rough hands.
/r/seduction17/10/19 02:13 AM
2

what you broke the strangers barrier, dude stop listening to alienating stressing PUA shit that calls you a "hopeless pussy" for not wooing a girl in 5 minutes and straying from the "protocol"
/r/seduction17/10/19 12:53 AM
2

The sex trade is an underrated crutch. It takes the pressure of "not getting any" off your shoulders and you can practice the physical skills on treating women. And you get off, too. Beats wasting money paying e-thots on twitch. The point of it is to ease your life so you can be less anxious while working long term on self improvement.
/r/seduction16/10/19 07:06 PM
5

This post is gonna offend the old school purists. They don't get that many men just want to be normal, not "chads"
/r/seduction16/10/19 06:57 PM
1

Feminism is cancer. They castrated a generation of young men turning them into social cripples who feel guilty of being men, and punching bags and strawmen for the movement (notice how the i-word is the favorite retort of leftists?) And now they want to destroy all venues for said men to fix themselves. They don't wanna lose their punching bags!
/r/seduction15/10/19 08:58 PM
1

I never meant you, I'm saying what you describe is what happens, I couldn't describe it better. I'm trying to put together a huge "personal statement/my goals/my problems/criticism of the field" rant because what I, and many others really just want, is to be normal. Take it as me quoting you in a paper
/r/seduction15/10/19 08:52 PM
1

"low standards" means the fat nerds. Surely you can deal with that? Man, you're sounding as straightlaced and brainwashed as I used to be. You won't get anywhere unless you open your mind. And the pressure of never touching a woman is weighing you down. I suggest you the escort therapy. yes, yes, I know, you're gonna tell me that is a "sin" and "std". first off, they take care of themselves more than you do and I guarantee that. fuck your morals or what "society" thinks, be a bit selfish and ins…
/r/seduction15/10/19 08:47 PM
1

because I was always told not to bother a woman while she’s working. political correctness is cancer.
/r/seduction15/10/19 08:31 PM
1

this here is what happens 99% of the time when the average reader of pushy PUA materials follows them because the average purveyor call them "hopeless pussies" if they don't score 34567898765432 models in the first day.
/r/seduction15/10/19 08:18 PM
3

Your bros wont judge you. I have to drill this shit into my brain. Into my brain stem. Christ, man, whenever I get rejected I always feel like it's the complete opposite (my peeps secretly seeing who I used to be years ago, all women looking down on me with pity, etc) especially since the fucking i-word became the stock progressive retort. It makes me feel like none of the great stuff that has happened to me (not even the times I've unleashed my entire potential and surprisingly out-alpha'd ever…
/r/seduction15/10/19 07:48 PM
40

As the Guns said, everybody needs some time on their own. And this goes both ways on a relationship. Words of wisdom: always flip the situation around in your mind, to be understanding of your world.
/r/seduction15/10/19 07:38 PM
3

I guess it is a matter of practice? It takes time. It's gonna sound cliché but having hobbies that you love helps a lot, doing stuff that makes you happy and pumped up, the adrenalin rush will make you feel like hot shit by yourself. Combining that with working out or some other thing that makes you clear your mind. The key is to smile, but that smile has to come out from your real inner yourself. From the heart. That way you end up approaching people in general and communicating stuff both verb…
/r/seduction15/10/19 03:15 PM
15

Yeah but my fears are not about the act of losing the woman. That is simple. I fear the public shaming, the kick in the self-esteem, the shitty childhood PTSD-like symptoms, the public exposure of my inner self deserving of ridicule. I wish I could kill that part of myself, so I could easily move on.
/r/seduction15/10/19 07:36 AM
2

Don't fall into the "honor dignity respect and magic, I want sex but I don't want sex because I respect wamen" talk, you'll sound like a neopuritan. The fact is that the absolute lack of sexual experience is weighing you down. We all have needs. Go for the escort therapy, some sexual catharsis that will let you work on self-improvement without the constant nagging in the back of your head.
/r/seduction15/10/19 06:37 AM
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The fear of humiliation and shame makes me do nothing unless she is also actively showing initiative and interest. She has to do some pick up artistry on me for a bit so I can turn off the self censorship and be fully unleashed. These girls are rare.
/r/seduction15/10/19 06:27 AM
2

I guess it's a matter of the "energy" you radiate. Before, nobody would even look at me. I had this "perpetually self-conscious, bitter and anxious" air around me, it was like a black hole people avoided. I was unapproachable. They called you intimidating, I don't know what kind of intimidation they mean, but that can be unapproachable depending on many factors. For example, I am a knowledge nerd who can come off as a know-it-all smartass sometimes, and that has been described as intimidating be…
/r/seduction14/10/19 07:12 PM
1

depends on the way they cancel... many will just start with evasives and won't go straight to the point. These are a waste of time to even give a response.
/r/seduction14/10/19 04:57 PM
7

I meet them as part of my normal life and they cling or stay close to me. Since they're not on my radar, for better or worse, I don't notice until they've already started to "game" me... eventually I just go with the flow because my dick has low standards and there's a point I realize "duh, she wants me to make a move already. That's so cute, awww... And honestly, yeah I'd hit it, she has big tits. Time to lower the shields, YOLO I guess!" One time I noticed early enough to back away. I was at a…
/r/seduction14/10/19 12:53 PM
3

I don't respond, but more in the sense of "I don't have time for this shit, let's move on"
/r/seduction14/10/19 06:06 AM
1

It's the same for women. We don't like when they let themselves go once they secure a man. This is about us men not doing the equivalent of that.
/r/seduction13/10/19 06:24 PM
2

There's nothing wrong with this and more guys trapped in anxiety should do it to take the burden out of their shoulders. All this self righteous moral shit or "honor" garbage is stupid. Nothing is about what's "right", it's about what do YOU want. Fucking a hooker (if she's good at her job - beware of many who are just boring walking fleshlights) is fun as hell. I befriended one and we have enough trust already we talk about our meetings as "what fun porn stuff can we do next time?" and look tow…
/r/seduction12/10/19 06:19 PM
1

I've never understood that saying.
/r/seduction12/10/19 05:43 PM
1

He wanted to kill his roommates (he hated them for a variety of reasons including self racial hate, he was half Asian and them fully Asian) and shoot up a sorority house, but when the latter didn't work he just went postal on the bystanders on the street. These 2 girls were just collateral damage.
/r/seduction12/10/19 05:27 PM
1

You don't have to have "material" We are people, not characters, and the real material is what arises from healthy communication between two people, so if you guys already got physical just let it flow, she's a part of this and you're not in some psychological SAW trap. Be happy because you're with her AND make her part of that happy world, it's about sharing the joy instead of being in some kind of battle against invisible odds.
/r/seduction11/10/19 07:36 PM
1

We live in a fucking society. PUAs rise up.
/r/seduction11/10/19 07:31 PM
1

We were close friends, that's why I felt so betrayed. This happened during the full height of the #poundmetoo scandals, by the way.
/r/seduction11/10/19 08:16 AM
4

I can vouch for the guy because I was raised brainwashed by feminist garbage, I thought making a move was a literal violation of personal space and borderline harassment. I'm not that extreme on that, once I see the girl is "letting me in" so to speak, all anxieties vanish and I let it all out. But one day shit didn't work as usual. The girl was pushing me too soon with intimidating "are you gonna fuck me already?" stares and body language, I wasn't fully into her and I was trying to get more ch…
/r/seduction11/10/19 07:54 AM
1

Christ. I can't stand mixed messages.
/r/seduction09/10/19 04:22 AM
4

Waste of time. I'm done with insincere mind games, and everyone should be too.
/r/seduction09/10/19 04:19 AM
6

I know, but I tend to forget it while surrounded by social media circlejerks where "men are ebil, let's be bullies to the ones who are not doing bad shit to us" is the prevailing narrative, and I've lost friends because they are in favor of false accusations because "some collateral damage is acceptable" I almost got #poundmetoo'd last year after an awkward night too. Awkward for ME, just in case.
/r/seduction09/10/19 12:45 AM
1

And what you're doing is gaslighting.
/r/seduction08/10/19 02:43 AM
2

I think I know this guy. The wording, the "I'll prove you wrong" victim shit. In some irrelevant secret videogame spinoff message board. Does he like Halo?
/r/seduction07/10/19 10:40 PM
1

We see faces, but not hearts. Or sex drives, in this case.
/r/seduction07/10/19 09:24 PM
15

Ah, you sound like you want to win the argument. That's manipulative victim shit. I'm out.
/r/seduction07/10/19 09:21 PM
23

It's a vicious circle. We think we are being shit-tested all the time (yes I am guilty of this) so we overact and blow it. So we think we didn't overact enough to pass the test. Or we self-censor because we think it was too much, and it's just as bad. Rinse and repeat. The truth is, we are people, not characters. We gotta externalize our own comfort with ourselves and make whatever woman we're getting to know not a spectator, but a partner. It then comes down to whether she likes that or not, an…
/r/seduction07/10/19 09:15 PM
5

lesbian there in lies the problem, she sees you guys as competition
/r/seduction07/10/19 08:59 PM
37

Honesty. This is the key I've always advocated for. But I'm too pessimistic. I feel like, dare I say it, we live in a society where nobody is honest, and honesty is just lowering your defenses in a dog-eat-dog world. So even though I'm dying to be honest, I keep thinking girls will just try to destroy my self-esteem to feed their ego and I would only be successful if I survive the attacks. So that's why I've ended up with the worst-looking gals. They become attracted to me because I'm fully hone…
/r/seduction07/10/19 08:57 PM
9

Yes you do. I see ugly men with hot girls ALL THE FREAKING TIME. And not just strangers: I have a distant relative who is a tiny, modest guy... his wife is a towering MILF. My sister is a slender, strong-independent-woman stereotype 40-something that looks 30-something, with a lot of alpha type guys after her... after marrying a neckbeard hippie for some years, and dating a low-energy stoner for years, she chose the younger, 30-something ugly and modest ethnic-minority guy and they just had a ba…
/r/seduction07/10/19 08:48 PM
1

I keep seeing ugly as fuck people with hot women. Every fucking day on the street. Meanwhile I am considered quite attractive yet I had the ugliest girlfriend possible for someone in my league...
/r/seduction06/10/19 10:32 PM
3

This led me to my eye opening, Eureka, can't-believe-I'm-that-boneheaded moment: why be ashamed for being attracted to someone? In fact, if someone is interesting to you, pursue them! Brainwashing during a bad childhood listening to way too much psychologically castrating propaganda from a jilted mom and a radfem sister. For fuck's sake, I even thought wanting sex from my ex girlfriend was "wrong" because "that's sexist durrr" Jesus fucking christ even when I think I'm fully validated on being f…
/r/seduction06/10/19 03:51 AM
1

SWEET HOME ALABAMA
/r/PussyPassDenied24/05/19 07:43 AM
2

According to batshit insane feminists and femmunists, this double standard is completely justified because something something compensation.
/r/PussyPass05/03/19 09:52 PM
63

lesbians are hot only in porn real life lesbians are the femitard porkhog haircunts
/r/PussyPass30/12/18 06:20 AM
2

I thought that was "MMMMFFFFMMMMMFFFFFFGRRLRLRLLRLBRLLBRLRBRLPAH."
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/18 07:43 PM
19

Shad? Is that the ghetto version of Chad?
/r/PussyPassDenied30/08/18 06:12 AM
1

so what orgasms super super
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/18 03:36 AM
11

Mr. Iously The patriarchy strikes again!
/r/PussyPassDenied19/02/18 01:31 AM
17

Hahahahaha it would be like the donut shop scene from Robocop 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaUqdIFUbxE
/r/PussyPass19/02/18 01:30 AM
22

Did the frog say "REEEEEEEEEEEEE" while boiling?
/r/PussyPassDenied23/06/17 08:27 AM
3

The second involves a mugger on the NYC subway late at night. The guy pulled a knife on me, and stabbed my right shoulder when I refused to hand over my wallet by saying, "I have no intention of giving you my money. It's bad enough I pay taxes!" I clamped down on the pain long enough to pull the knife out of my shoulder, give the guy a Kubrick Stare over the tops of my glasses, and ask, "Did it ever occur to you that I might be left-handed?" I then drove the knife into his shoulder, broke the bl…
/r/PussyPassDenied06/06/17 10:59 PM
1

Because that's "islamaphobic" and we all know islam is the feminist religion of the women of color that is progressive and liberating unlike christianity which is the WHITE MALE'S RELIGION that is oppressive and patriarchal.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/06/17 06:45 PM
6

[deport intensifies]
/r/PussyPass06/05/17 11:32 PM
1

Better to die alone than crushed by a fat fuck.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/17 12:35 AM
1

If he can't get any from the choosy fatasses, well, that's better.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/04/17 12:34 AM
1

Diabeetus Rex pig goes REEEEEEEE because she doesn't get any therefore nobody should and therefore all affection between male and female is INTERNALIZED MISOGYNY and he's a RAPIST and she's a GENDER TRAITOR. Go figure.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/04/17 07:50 AM
2

THE JUDGE IS MALE THIS IS WHAT WE CALL A BETACUCK
/r/PussyPass28/07/16 05:58 AM
9

They also constantly engage in smear campaigns and bullying over manufactroversies, twisting words, actions and products into "oppression" and whatever victim act to portray themselves as "victims of _______ism" and get politically correct media on their side.
/r/PussyPassDenied07/04/16 07:42 PM
7

Found the male guilt beta cuck.
/r/PussyPassDenied25/10/15 08:35 PM
1

The level of cuckery by the MALE devs is just sad.
/r/PussyPass13/10/15 01:11 AM
1

Baskin-Robbins always finds out.
/r/PussyPassDenied19/08/15 06:48 PM
1

I can't understand shit.
/r/PussyPassDenied11/08/15 04:34 AM
-9

Infowars, disregard
/r/PussyPassDenied26/07/15 07:53 AM
1

no change, just being fancier ;)
/r/PussyPass13/07/15 05:22 AM
2

It's "tumblretta" now
/r/PussyPass13/07/15 05:13 AM
2

Well, I use 500. ¯_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe there's some greasemonkey script that loads more automatically Edit: I always browse messages oldest first, so I see different things at first glance
/r/PussyPassDenied29/06/15 06:02 AM
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I have my settings at far more messages per page. There are a few "bawww u meanie u ruined her most important day!" triggerfests but they're shot down.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/06/15 04:23 AM
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Notice how the replies are sane and not Le Offended Le Triggered Le Raped Reddit then, Reddit now.
/r/PussyPassDenied28/06/15 09:47 PM
0

No comment section to laugh at the Le Offended™ Tumblrettas?
/r/PussyPassDenied17/05/15 11:01 PM
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